DoBoy's Final Episode

35:42I'm back with these jokes though. They don't know why I did this. I was like, so everybody kind of calms out there. I'm like, so Mexican people, huh? I was like, how come? They're criminals. I was like, how come if you get into a problem with one Mexican person, you gotta fight everybody in their damn family. They grandma gonna be pulling up, they uncle, they are too. I can't stand Mexican people. Crickets again. Then this big ass Mexican dude in the back stands up like I'm gonna you up puto. I ran off the stage again and cried again. Didn't do comedy again for 11 years. And then niggas was booing me in the halls.

36:22They would just see me, it's boo. I was so happy when we moved to South Sac. Then I got to the floor in. I couldn't have dealt with that for four years. Yeah, yeah. You had to change schools, it was so bad. It was that bad. I mean, I wasn't the reason, but I was glad. Yeah, it was bad for me, bro. I got bullied freshman year. And you know, like Kennedy was like a tougher school. It was like a lot of - Yeah, for sure. That's where some hood kids went, for sure. So then when I went to Florin, then it was like cool. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was better. I kind of recreated myself. I started rapping, started playing drums.

36:57And I kind of got started getting good recognition for that. So I was like, oh, maybe this could be a thing. Okay. Chirk them into thinking you're cool and shit. Yeah, you know. Kind of hit them with the bars. That definitely illuminates your character. to a whole different extent what my life it just kind of i mean okay that experience kind of like mirrors a lot of what's happened on no jumper and then when i was watching the just clips video his most recent release today it felt like you were like really saying like some of the exact same things that i've heard you say about your podcast with kev on stage who i'm not familiar with at all um it's like it feels like almost the exact same scenario that's happened on here even though like you were being weirdly like cagey and not really like telling the interviewer anything about why the podcast broke up and you were really acting like they the people didn't deserve to know or be curious which is like not how podcasts work people are curious about everything in your life if you're doing a sort of entertainment style podcast that's as big a secret what in his life his is a Kevin on stage, Doughboy Breakup.

38:01I get hit up about that more than anything else. It was a pretty popular podcast. So, you know, it didn't even came up when I did Community the other day. And it's just like, you know, it was just a situation where we, you know, we just grew apart and we just stopped working. And it was just like, you know, I didn't want to be out here talking bad about the dude. Like, you know, I always thought that that was like corny. If you work with somebody, you got money with people, you had good times. I don't need to now bash you since we, you know. and just with that situation was just such a sensitive situation it was just like man we don't really want to talk about this so you say that there's like no reason and then you're like it was such a sensitive situation that I didn't want to talk about it's so obvious that you're hiding something that's really juicy and good exactly since the beginning he's been doing this for sure because it's like you don't have to trash Kev to explain the situation I mean I'm not trying to force you to speak on something you don't want to we just reached a point where you know our goals and visions separated it and so it was just like hey man he's gonna go do his thing i was gonna do my general and then i had to you know just it was just such a sensitive time okay let me just say that you were sober let's make that clear you were sober and then you were not sober did that have something to do with it i mean it seems pretty popular this podcast clips all of like 100k plus it seems yeah i mean yeah i'm not trying to you know run it up but kevin's pretty wildly successful now on twitter he's humongous i'm kind of a podcast or a comedy noob so don't blame me definitely a little facebook you know comedy energy but kev is definitely funny and he does his thing does a lot of numbers but it was more on the on the thing that that was a very sensitive time in my life but no like you know i'm saying when when the podcast ended i was sober like you know i'm saying i ended up relapsing you know after but you know alcohol had nothing to do it it was not like some smoking gun some terrible thing that happened or anything it's just that hey man we're gonna go our separate ways but when i say sensitive times like that was the same year i got diagnosed you know my kid came to live with me full time.

39:54It was just, life was just awesome life shit. So I just, you know, kind of just needed to tend to myself. So it was just. Kevin on stage is appearing on the Joe Budden podcast. Yeah, he's very popping for sure. He's outside. He does it up. Look at that one. Six years ago. Doughboy. Kevin on stage. Flagrant two. 426K views. Look at this. These two fell apart and these two fell apart. All podcast duos are doomed to die. Damn. Damn. That's why we got a trio, guys. We can never break up. Yep, for now. Come on, man. Come on, man. And why did you title this Doughboy's last episode? Okay, because if you fire me live on the show, that's an unforgivable act.

40:38You said you were funny, Doughboy. You lied to me. I feel like I probably wouldn't fire you on the show so much as your role would just slowly be diminished to the point where you got demoralized enough that you would just kind of give up. I don't be giving up. yeah i think you would stay here forever if you didn't fire him i would do one new show a month for two years this is my thing about it though is that it just feels like okay there there was a goal for this podcast which was like to create a a show on a weekly basis where we create a cast of characters who were able to talk about things outside of the typical hip-hop slash street environment right right and it feels like if based on that standard that this podcast has been an abject failure because instead we end up just talking about you every week and it's kind of hard for me to imagine this podcast like getting on track and becoming about something besides you at this time like i i definitely think we need to like experiment with adding additional hosts and everything like that but there's part of me that feels like if we add additional hosts that we're still going to have a very similar problem which is going to be that like doughboys like your characteristics just seem like they're so loud that it's hard for the host or the audience to really like focus on anything else and i'm kind of at a loss for how we are going to get past that and like really turn this Monday thing into what I think that it could be.

42:17I'm solution based. Okay. So you know what I believe would definitely help us as a podcasting trifecta. We just need to have good dockets of topics. I'm the only person I've sent five, nobody else sent anything else. It's like, so I think if we have the things that we want to talk about and we have enough time to all configure our thoughts because trust me I don't want to come in here and be dissected every week like I don't even think I'm that interesting so I don't want to make it about me and I don't mean to make it about me but I think if we had however many topics I know you say sometimes it's it's quality over quantity so maybe it doesn't need to be 20 things but if it's like 10 solid talking points that we all feel decently about or you know we feel something that kind of gets our motor started on it I think that would help but since we haven't been doing that I just think that you know it's it's it we just default and be talking about me and shit and just other little i feel like i started out this podcast with a lot of excitement about talking about topics that i didn't feel like i could really talk about on tuesdays and that that has slowly kind of diminished because i just don't really i don't know i mean i just i don't feel like we have gotten into a groove with the kind of stuff that we're supposed to be talking about like i don't know if you actually sent a docket or anything i didn't see anything but it uh i don't know it feels like our and i feel like moose would probably agree with this even though he's probably gonna try to be nice about it but it feels like you our faith in you as a podcaster is maybe like not to the extent where we really have any like genuine excitement about talking about topics on monday because we haven't really seen you do any good podcasting yet even though you've probably We've been on the podcast like 40 plus combined hours so far.

44:09What you're telling me is you feel like since I have been here at No Jumper, I have not had a good podcasting hour yet. What was the good hour? Or the good topic or the good clip? I think that there's a myriad of them. Let me conjure one. Myriad means like so many that it would be easier to think of them. Yeah, I think the main issue, Doughboy, is like even you like come with, you know, topics and stuff. I think it's just like the angle that you come from sometimes is it's kind of normie. You know, it's kind of just like this is what like literally everyone's saying about this. So you bring in it to us.

44:41It's like, well, what else are we going to add to this if there's no new angle? It's like how many times have we talked about or seen people talk about Drake versus Hov in a versus, you know, because that was his big idea. I don't want to roast. But here's the roast. When we're talking about the Jay-Z freestyle where he basically dissed Drake and Dame Dash and a whole bunch of other people, that we're talking about that in the group chat, and you sort of instantly pivot to like, guys, we got to make the Monday show all about us laying out what the verses would be like between Drake and Jay-Z. and you know my incredibly obvious response to that is like we're looking at a clip of probably the most viral freestyle of the year in which jay-z this is drake like objectively two of the biggest rappers of all time maybe like the two biggest rappers of all time by many metrics and you immediately pivot into like let's talk about a versus between them which is a very played out well-worn topic and also a hip hop topic, which really kind of makes it not seem appropriate for the Monday show since we're kind of trying to go outside of hip hop.

45:48And yeah, like that to me just is kind of like more evidence of the fact that like, you know, it just seems like you want to talk about the wrong things. Okay. And I can, and I can, you know, take the feedback and say, all right, try to apply it, try to get better. I thought I was doing decent potting up here. So if that is not the general consensus, then all I can do is go back to the game tape and do my best to get better. I mean, I would think that like the audience would probably be able to like name a good moment or a clip or whatever. And I think my whole thing about this, too, is like, yes, I feel mean having this conversation.

46:23But it also feels like I'm being nicer than the audience is. like the audience reaction is so much more negative towards you than anything that i've been saying that it just if i were to like sort of breeze past their reaction it feels like i would not be doing them a service at all whereas like you know okay we brought jay hood in for the last tuesday show and you do the power munching stuff it feels like as much as like new hosts oftentimes don't really like necessarily get like super positive responses immediately it felt like oh like people kind of immediately were like i like the energy that he brings to the tuesday show right i had a feeling they would like him just so yeah the munchie interview i'm like yeah jay would definitely fit in yeah and so i don't know it just it feels weird because it's like i would like to add somebody to the monday show but then i also feel like i just don't really like know where you're going to fit in with that on the Monday show because it just feels like we haven't really done anything besides sort of dissect your personality and I hate that about it like you know what I mean I don't want to I want to make content not be content so you know um you know we we get to the places that we are by you know our actions so hopefully I can you know turn the ship hopefully I can make you a believer one day I do believe that I am a good podcaster and that I do bring something to the table and I can just keep swinging the bat and try to get on base.

47:56Yeah, because as much as I'm tired of, you know, Doughboy's random ass Normie questions and bullshit potting at times, I'm also more tired of like the Doughboy like advice era that we're in. It's like we don't have to do there's a lot of us that are like, you know, new to podcasts and are working on our shit ourselves to where I think it's a little weird where we're like all giving Doughboy advice to where even though he might need it it's just like i'm getting so like when i see the whole advice therapy sessions like bro shut up no boy let's just pod and let's get some cool topics go on twitter instead of instagram you know find some you know niche things or some you know different things that might go outside of your interests you know the the regular day-to-day and let's just pod but yeah i am tired of talking about potting as if we're like covering basketball and you need to work on your jumper it's like either you got the jumper and we're finna go to the league or we not you know We got to go back down.

48:48Yeah. So what I can do moving forward is just, you know, try to put more time and interest in making sure we have. I'll just take that responsibility and make sure we have a great docket that everybody feels comfortable with every week. Prep myself as much as I can before I get there. I think the problem, too, is that, like, nobody really seems to have any, like, faith in your ability to pick out good topics either. Yeah. I think our quality of dockets would probably differ for each, you know, all three of us, you know, to some extent for sure. but I think yeah I don't know I don't know what this the the you know the fixation solution is but I quit you dough boy you know as a person I never want to shit on you I'm never trying to dog pile on you I put you for sure you definitely got a good soul and shit but it's just like you either got a pot or we don't pop man but you gotta I'm tired of talking about your ass and we got to get to this shit so we get some clips out in the world you know what I'm saying get our shit off and that's what kind of stood out to me too at the one out thing is that like we were hanging out in that environment and you know even despite the i got my dig back thing it felt like you it was relatively like enjoyable hanging out and stuff and then as soon as we got back on the podcast i was like ah okay like this might be the problem is that like me maybe me and dobo can have like a good friendship relationship do some contact etc but like i just don't know if like the weekly podcast thing is the move because I've kind of like grown to dread it a little bit just because I feel like we're not going to really like do a lot on here besides sort of like pick you apart damn man well it just kind of feels like that's like all we've really done like and even outside of the Monday show obviously too and even like today I asked Josh like what his thoughts were of you on the news and he was kind of like yeah he just kind of makes it all about himself yeah and I think that's like the main thing that I see them care about a lot is like that was issue with Jalice like very entertaining a lot of energy a lot of things but you put her in front of some topics and she's just like oh I don't know about this shit you know I don't care about this you know unless there's something talking about her that was when she was you know at the top of her game and I think Doughboy sometimes falls into that same category not as bad obviously because you know you have two IQ you know more than her for sure at least and so I think just yeah the news is like they want to see us speak on the topics they don't want to hear about our weekends they don't want to hear us talk about the weather you know all that type of shit we gotta get straight to the topics and sometimes you'll be like you know what if you know drake and hove had a versus and it's like the news isn't really there to be that you know our workshop for that you know i'm saying so but it's like we're all working to be better potters like i was you know over talking people cutting people off i still do that sometimes so i try to you know work on it i think i think if they saw you actively working on it a little bit more because you kind of nod and say yes to all the advice and then you come back and it's just the same dough boy i think that's like the main issue that i see especially with the glazing thing because it just feels like holy how many times can we have this conversation over and over and then it's kind of like well is the entirety of our podcasting together any different than that conversation where we kind of like keep telling you why something isn't it and then we just sort of like keep repeating ourselves over and over and then you keep saying yes like i'm gonna work on that i really need to get back to the pot and like you know whatever and then it just feels like it doesn't go anywhere and it's like there's only so many times that we can really like subject the audience to it i feel like no i get it man and i understand the game and i understand you know you gotta do what you gotta do so all i can do is uh keep trying so you know i'll try my best and whatever's supposed to happen shall happen i mean part of like the reason why i'm like not ready to just completely cut ties yet is because you keep saying that you're about to go sober and that that's going to like kind of be like a whole new era for you and you're a completely different person when you're sober and i would like to see that you know that that sounds interesting the red bull and not a four loco yeah because although you have things to work on like when you're sober and you know less alcohol you definitely are a much better podcaster and i feel like you'll be more aware 1000 yeah when when Doughboy drinks like the Monday show and I think it was just me Munchie and it might have just been me you and Munchie you got faded on that pod you got pretty faded and you're like you know pretty much not letting us speak cutting us off a lot and I'm just like this is not the Doughboy you know saying that I've seen on at least Righteous and Ratchet and shit like that it's kind of Lush-esque too because Lush in the past like like when Lush is done Lush will like talk too much have too much fun and kind of get into his annoying bag where uh and then like obviously lush when he's just straight up sad is also like probably not the best podcaster but then when lush is like it's somewhere in the middle it feels like that's where he's better like if he's really riding a like an ego wave like we all start gassing lush up because he does one thing good that sometimes will like push him into a category where all of a sudden he's like kind of annoyingly excited.

53:50And yeah, I don't know. And I mean, you and Lush have a lot in common because obviously the drugs and the alcohol is like a thing. Yeah, but I'm definitely, you know, a more balanced version of myself when I don't drink. It's not the best, you know, just even just for all the other things I got going on. And you know, and I made the decision, you know, primarily for the fight, but I was just like, well, just do it for the rest of the year. Focus, focus up, try to get better at what you're doing, you know, and definitely pod more on my own just so I can start getting the reps up more because I'm just a bit out of practice and just do the things I'm supposed to do.

54:19So I'm starting my streaming career tonight at 10 o 'clock. At 10? From 10 to 2. That's the name of the show, 10 to 2. And you're going to do that every night? Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Wow, okay. That's good. It's a heavy load of content. Right. But what I'm going to be doing is sending Zooms to my friends, some of my different comedian friends, talk trash with them, moose. Maybe I can get you in there one day. Maybe. Okay, so yeah, I don't know. I guess the other thing too that I don't feel like we could just completely cut off the Doughboy arc yet is the fact that you are apparently going to fight Spodey face, despite the fact that essentially all of us have kind of urged you in the other direction.

54:57And I definitely feel like, you know, we need to see that through for sure. I feel like I got to unleash until the fight is to try to prove myself to see if I can. What if he knocks Spodey out? Does that like confirm his job for a little longer? Well, also, I don't want to have an awkward conversation where we tell you that we don't want to pop with you anymore, and then you do this fight with Spodeface, and then he kills you in the ring, because if he kills you, then I would have had that conversation for no reason, and I don't really want to have an extra unnecessary... Yeah, just let him get killed, and then that would be the fight.

55:30So he might do your good work for you, just get me out the paint? I mean, if he kills you, then I don't have to fire you. It's like, damn, that made it way easier for me. I don't know that he's going to kill you just because there's going to be a ref there that will probably stop that before that happens. But, you know. There's a chance. Something akin to a death will probably occur in that ring. Boxers die in the ring all the time. Just be safe. All the time, right? I feel like they do. I don't have any fear of dying in that ring. And I feel like, man, y 'all need to believe in the underdog, man.

55:57Underdogs win, too. I think once I see you taking it seriously, then I will. But like we said, Spody ain't drinking or smoking. He ain't been drinking or smoking forever. Yeah, he was in prison. Yeah, he was in prison. I almost wonder if this was a fight that rose to the level that they had betting odds for it. I don't know. I mean, I feel like it might be the kind of thing that we've never seen before. Like, oh, look at that. Passed the joint to the film right now. You really believe I got no shot? I mean, to be honest, tell me the truth. Yeah, no shot. Zero? I mean, you always got a puncher's chance, but like, yeah, betting odds would be like Spody minus 4 ,000 or something, you know?

56:37I would put it on par with like the me and Jason Love thing, honestly. Where it was just like, I feel like it's already decided before it takes place. Oh, God. Not to say that Spodeface is quite as intimidating or large as Jason Love. True. He is an Israelite. In that ballpark. It was promised to him 2 ,000 years ago. But the odds against me and the Jason Love fight weren't that bad in retrospect. Yeah, because you guys are like two big guys, you know what I'm saying? And they didn't have a lot to go on there. They were like, no, how shit I was going to be. The footage was just you guys punching the bags and stuff.

57:04Well, much like the Spodeface fight, I'm going to shock the world. So I'm going to shock the world there, and I'm going to shock the world here. I shall turn this ship around. No, I think getting sober is the best chance that you got, though, boy, for sure. And I think that's very important. And I think just getting, I think that will help with just having a constant, better mental health as well. Because, you know, that alcohol is what keeps you up when you got shit going on. It does. And the whole thing about, like, no jumper over the past few years, and, like, you know, I would say that, like, I feel like now, I feel like we're back to the level of, like, enthusiasm from the fans and everything that we maybe had in, like, 2023 before the great exodus, you know?

57:39and i feel like there was a you know like the brick baby you know jumper show era was pretty good i think a lot of people like that but then like that was definitely a hit when uh when that ended although then we kind of had bunchy b like ready to go you know and uh even with like the an jefe like when he got his case it kind of felt like the jay hood thing was already like something that was going to be worked on in my mind of like shit he would be interested to bring in and like it feels like last week at least like he was able to sort of take that spot not to say that anybody could ever really formally uh replace the alter eagle but like literally like sit in the seat yeah he took the seat and i feel like he did a really good job and uh i do feel like in general like the thing that helps no jumper become a better version of itself and like the version of it i would like to see in a year is like more hosts more people that they like more days out of the week where we have content in which you know like you know i would love to have like another show that kind of felt like the the at the end of the day energy where it kind of feels like ah adam's not here and so we can be a little bit more ratchet a little bit more crazy or whatever i would like to like you know kind of keep growing it to the point where we're in a disconnected you know where it's like a whole different vibe yeah i mean like you know this was like a step in that direction of like okay because i did i loved even though it was sort of like a brief period of time but there was a time period we had the monday show with flocco gene and almighty tuesday show with you know whoever it was at the time we had at the end of the day and then we had the disconnected and that was pretty cool like for a fan perspective to have four shows so that on any given night you could tune in at five or six or whatever time it was and just like see a bunch of different personalities i think that very much is the thing that the no jumper fans miss was just that it felt like there was just so many good personalities all linked together and i feel like we got to like i think that the the host search episodes or the streams or whatever have been like really crucial towards us building towards that future every time we do one of those we end up with like a handful of personalities that end up kind of lingering around and regardless of if they've like necessarily rose to the occasion of what people were fans of in 2023 like keeps making it more interesting i think we do we have to keep trying more personalities and like figuring out more people that can kind of work in this universe you know yeah for sure and i would hate for the doughboy thing to like totally take our attention off of that because it does kind of feel like you know this show hasn't become what it was supposed to be yet it has been the doughboy era so far which you know good bad and ugly you know you gotta take it how it is there was a lush era we're kind of like just talking about lush 24 7 yeah and then the lush relationship era and now Lush is kind of more of like a real boy on the pod.

1:00:26Yeah, he's like, I would say the backbone, you know, in some ways for sure. I think like the Doughboy era kind of showed us like that the Lush era was not as bad as we thought it was. So for sure, the low-cal Lush era is definitely - Lush is worse? Oh, way worse. That shit has nothing. Infinitely worse. Do you have anything good to say about your boy? I mean, in a way that's good because it's like you made an imprint, you know? That's better than being like here today, forgotten tomorrow. like people are going to remember Doughboy on No Jumper Forever. For people listening to the audio version, I am performatively thinking.

1:00:59I might even put my hand on my chin. Jesus. I might rub my beard. It's like the picture of that champ. I'm just being real. I mean, it just feels like, you know, I don't know what I would say the positive thing is on the podcast. I mean, I think like we like you as a person, but as a podcaster, it's been, yeah. And you don't feel like you have any responsibility for it. Maybe, you know, kind of doubling down on the fans perspective and things like that. Maybe, you know, help and push that narrative that, yeah, we all hate Doughboy. Or you feel like that was just going to naturally occur. I think if I was like being really negative to Doughboy, but then the fans were being really pot.

1:01:41I don't think that would stop the fans. Like me being negative would stop the fans from forming their own counter argument. Because usually it's the opposite. It's like if you're being mean to like Lush, they're along Lush's side, you know. whoever you're being mean to usually the fans are like oh adam he's the one being grumpy yeah so i guess it would be the opposite yeah if if you know like me being positive towards you feels like it kind of creates a little bit more of a swell of negativity towards you they're like actually he sucks adam yeah normally we would expect that like the negativity towards doughboy would result in like a counter insurgency that kind of like really emphasize like oh actually like we love doughboy but I created an army.

1:02:18I haven't really seen the Doughboy boosters. Yeah, Callie Rosam says salute to big Doughboy. There he is, Callie Rosam. Thank you, Callie. You got tan on it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with it. So, I mean, I just, I feel like I can't, like, ignore this conversation and it kind of like, you know, obviously we keep clickbaiting, using, you know, your firing or whatever to get people to watch and I don't know if that's just, like, going to continue forever but it does feel like that's kind of just where we're at right now. And I mean, I feel like next week we should bring somebody else in to try them out and like see how it goes.

1:02:54And then we'll see if we're able to like persevere. Okay. So you mean bring somebody in and I said it out or? No, I think you want it as well. Yeah. Okay. I'm with it. You know what I'm saying? I know we got a interview coming up to it with Craig soon. So that's going to be interesting. I'm very interested in Craig Smith's perspective on the Doughboy thing. Because I think, was he the one who commented on the video of Kyle jiggling your boob? And he basically was like annoyed by the fact that, you know. No, he was more annoyed with Lush. Because he just felt like Lush was just critiquing me very, very hard about what's funny, what's not funny.

1:03:28Telling me he was like, he don't really have the authority to do that because he's not a comedian. So, he had spoke on it on his podcast. he's not a comedian but it's fair to say that Lush has got a lot more LOLs out of the cast than you have over the past few months and they're at war now by the way Craig and Lush are at war seriously yeah they're like talking shit to each other in the DM and shit yeah they're going hard I was with Lush when he was arguing Craig Craig's my homeboy so you know what I'm saying so shout out to Craig's man for me shout out to Lush too Lush's my homeboy too but you know he just seen you know like the piling on and he just you know he spoke up for his boy so you know but he was just seeing a clip too so I feel like Maybe if he's seen the wave, he might be like, doe.

1:04:10You know what I'm saying? But I wonder if Craig Smith is necessarily working with all the information that we have. That's what I'm saying, yeah. Because he's seeing the boob jiggle and he thinks it feels like bullying, and I get that for sure. But if he were to see the entirety of everything going on. The Craig Smith interview, I want to interview him, but then also I really want to have the doe boy conversation with him as well to sort of figure out his insight into you. Right, and that's somebody that's known me for over a decade. We've worked for a long time together. We've done a lot of collaborative things.

1:04:43So as much as I value your opinion, like you know what I'm saying, about my podcasting, and I'll take all your critiques and I'll never give you the pushback on it. There's other people out there that have opposing views and think that I'm actually pretty dope at this and that I'm actually a really good podcaster. I'd like to meet those people. And I feel like Craig does have that energy where he's definitely team Doughboy, definitely protective of Doughboy, knows you got a good heart and people out here may be taking you the wrong way. So I get that vibe from Craig. And I'm just trying. Maybe I'm trying too hard.

1:05:15That's why I was just like sometimes drinking on the pod just to kind of calm my nerves down just because I want to do so good. And then when I try to do so good and it doesn't come out that way, it's just it can be a little bit frustrating, especially when I believe in my ability as much as I do. I mean, maybe part of the problem is that on this pod you're like 33 of the podcasters if the monday show ended up becoming five people then you would be 20 of the podcasters and maybe that would be like a little better from the perspective of the fans because like even on the the tuesday show it didn't feel like we really like hit our stride until it became a five person or a four person thing you know like and even when and heffield went away and i think we had one episode where he wasn't here yeah and then it It was like Munchy Lush Me and Spody Face.

1:06:00I felt like that wasn't, like it was just lacking some energy. And then - The alter eagle. Yeah. And then Jay Hood sort of like came in. He's got energy. He's laughing. He's kind of like, you know, he's like sober and shit. So he's sort of like, you know, pumping up the volume and everything. And I felt like that kind of like replaced something that was sort of similar to Ant, except Jay Hood talks a lot. Whereas Ant Hefe, if I was going to give him any like primary criticism, it was like, he didn't really talk that much. sometimes he would straight up look at his phone for two hours I'd be wondering, I'm like, is he about to announce that a loved one died?

1:06:35Because he's been feverish typing for so long that it felt like the only excuse for that could be something crazy emergency going on I like how J-Hood definitely is willing to have the verbal debate, the verbal spar too I like that about J-Hood Dragonite Crips is crazy how they're talking about this on the news right now too are you serious god damn it man but even like 10 baby mama said doe boy could be an elite podcaster if adam wasn't hating i mean does anyone really think that like i don't feel like it has that much to do with me i don't think i have to like be involved with any of this you know even the 24-hour streams that i wasn't on essentially kind of went in a similar direction i think what do you mean like this doe boy overkill kind of turned into like you know let's let's dope boy up with words hi bob hey man i love dope boy man he'd be making my day sometimes i mean this would have ended instantly yeah if you weren't somewhat would have been branded pretty much yeah that's what i was you know he was out the door pretty quickly and i feel like dope boy's definitely been kicking it you know i'm saying but even like look steezy muslim which kind of hard to imagine a steezy muslim but he said much love to y 'all but i'm so tired of episodes being about Doughboy which I feel like that's going to become more and more of a like honestly when we did the first members only Doughboy firing clickbait episode that was like the most new members that we had got in a long time just to watch me get my hair cut off it was kind of hard to tell because it also was the exact same day where the people who had subscribed the last month resubscribed so it's like a weird thing where like every like 30 days or so there's like a big spike because people's accounts were new and it was like exactly on the same day so it was kind of hard to tell like you don't know which one's new and which one's just a resubscribe yeah previous but so that that did make me wonder like oh wow like but then we did like similar click bit last monday i think and it didn't really the marking the biggest mark out yeah we could only use it a few times before they're like all right don't we're getting fired again come on and also at this moment i would love to remind everybody that on june 24th the link is in the no jumper instagram bio the no jumper live show is going down doughboy will be in the building moose man will be in the building facts 607 on king yellow our opener right now will there be another opener at it it's not to remind everybody about that we are actually uh starting a big campaign online today because i'm just kind of realizing that in this day and age it's like if you want people to go to a live show you gotta promote the f**k of it uh i was uh talking to my best friend chad gbt about it and i think they said you need to like people need like five to fifteen points of being reminded of something before they on average will jump and actually uh you know buy a ticket i feel like that's true for me so i could see that yeah i could see that too it's not in my face and it seems like um everyone's not dying to go i'm like i don't give a f**k about that you have to like hit people over the head with it over and over and over actually you know i was thinking about because i'm still seeing the the wiling out posters on the side of the highway like maybe i gotta figure out who they use for that that'd be hard i mean that would be cool how many people does the lrac five six hundred i believe i think six hundred is like packed we can sell that out easy and if you show up and you want to kiss Doughboy will be kissing any of the fans he has a history of fans and you might be the next one to be tossed up in the bathroom his booth will be right in front of the Elray bathroom five minutes and that shall be handing out tomatoes at the door that's going to be the time to be there is to see that set I am more than willing to pay the cleanup bill for the tomatoes.

1:10:39No, I'm just kidding. Don't worry. We'll pay for the backs. Everybody has to lock up their phone so they don't record your set. I have so many podcasts and like coming up and like so many emails. Like I've been, I've been putting it off for like two weeks. Well, I really, I've been putting it off for years, but writing out the official 10 commandments of podcasting. I want to do that and like run content off that. And then I also want to do performance reviews on the podcast for all of the potters. On the platform. Live for the audience where we sit down and everybody gets a one-on-one performance review.

1:11:15Obviously, like, Doughboy's pretty much been getting nonstop performance reviews for the last few weeks. It's going to be an hour long. Not going to spare you. I'm really into the idea of doing the performance reviews because I think that'll create, like, a lot of really good discourse with the fans, you know, Because I feel like they'll be invested. If they disagree, they're going to – That's inside baseball. They're not going to hide their disapproval if I give anybody a rating that they don't approve of. You might cause a riot in there. You say the wrong thing about OOC. Right. But I want to – I really want to establish the Ten Commandments before I do that so that along the way we can kind of work on – I feel like it might even be hard to like create just 10 commandments.

1:11:58Cause you've been talking about this for years, man. So you got to get it done. All right. I'm tired of hearing about it. There's supposed to be a video about it. There's supposed to be a video that's being shown to people before you go on no jumper pod, like the news and shit. I've seen a bunch of iterations hearing about it. We need the 10 commandments. I got a tweak for the name for you. Why don't you call it the 10 pod commandments? Isn't that what he said? Is that not what he said? the 10 commandments for potting. I think it rolls better if you say 10 pod commandments. Okay. Yeah. Is this a tweak on the name?

1:12:29Yeah, I think we're using it interchangeably. Yeah. Okay. So TDMA Fat Cut said fire Doughboy live. I swear I'll send a$500 super chat. I mean, that's hard to argue. That's kind of tempting. $500 is pretty good. And then D Reacts says shout out to Doughboy. We just want not every show to be about you. Just continue to do better Doughboy and stop letting that I get to you, they will destroy you. Shout out cast. Very foreshadowing warning. I guess at least one thing that I would like to discuss is that you apparently had some extended conversation with noted rape victim, Jalice. I did. We talked.

1:13:12At least from what I can tell, it seems like she's kind of backing down. She's perfectly fine all of a sudden, it seems. She's back hanging out with 607 Unc and King Yellow. I seen her laughing at a joke saying you sold me for a hundred dollars. You took that blue strip. Skating from the nine gotta be hurting right now. He's like, cool. I had my whole name smeared. Yeah. There's a thousand videos with titles about me being a rapist. And now you're, you're just cool with everybody besides him, I guess. That's yeah. And that took a lot of the wind out of the sails for that accusation for me. I'm like, is this how, I guess you can't victim blame.

1:13:47I don't know what the, I don't know. And maybe Jaleese will be in the building for the five-byes. I'm hoping that she will be there and that she will take one of the lucky fans home. Just watch out. Record everything like skinny. Put cameras all over your house. Yes, and you can actually have sex with Jaleese in the No Jumper office where there are cameras everywhere. I'm going to ask you to please have sex in view of the cameras. And you both have to sign a contract first. Yes, definitely. And if you're lucky, I might hop in. True. And Doughboy might hop in. Doughboy might be in there. but no I was able to holler at her man and I was actually more of a fan of her after I talked to her she's a sweet girl we had a dope conversation about some possible collaborations it was all professional wait a minute so she finally responded to you thirsting out in the DM's for her she did I'm more of a fan we had a real cool exchange in the DM's we exchanged numbers and then we talked over the weekend we just talked about some possible collaborations you know doing some things so I let her know I was a fan of her stuff Like, you know what I'm saying?

1:14:48You know, let her know off the rip. Like, ain't nobody trying to holler. I was just trying to get your attention. You weren't trying to holler. You were just jokey joke, huh? Just jokey joke. You would like to make love to her? No, that's not really the angle. But you think she's attractive. You're trying to force me to say she was like an eight or a nine. I do think she's attractive, but that wasn't my angle. Like, that wasn't what I was trying to do. Can you give, like, the fans that are, like, waiting to see that content, like, what's a little teaser? Oh, wait, so you recorded your conversation?

1:15:13No, I didn't record it. No, like, what you and Jaleese may be doing together. We may do some other content. I'm doing some scripted stuff. You know what I'm saying? She wants to get into acting. I will try to link her up with one of my producers because she's trying to do some music. She actually raps. You know Cardi B? Yeah, you know. So I'm trying to link her up with my boy Day One so he can get her some beats. Just trying to help. Just trying to, you know what I'm saying, just be of assistance. So you're playing the long game. You're going to do a bunch of favors for her, and then maybe by the end of that, you'll have sex with her.

1:15:42Oh, that's not my angle at all. I look at her as the homie. Now you owe me. I've made you rich and fat. I'm looking at her as the homie. You have to look at her. I'm looking at her as the homie from the crib. You know what I'm saying? Doughboy Weinstein. And yeah, I'm just looking to, you know, just add value and help her situation. So we had a cool conversation. Shout out to her. And we'll see what happens. Y 'all might see her pop up on one of my streams. This feels like a fair question. When Doughboy says he's a fan of her, of what? What does she even do? I like her content. I like her passion.

1:16:13I like how she's very passionate about however she feels. I feel like, you know, I think that that's why I think she would be a good actress because she knows how to activate her emotions really fast. Like in acting, that's what you need to be. Yeah, whether you think it's fake or if it's real. No, I'm just saying. Yeah, just to be able to go there that quick. It's like a gear. You know what I mean? So that's what I, you know, I see it for. So, you know, and that's really what I be trying to do with everybody up here. Like, you know what I'm saying? I be trying to just collab like where I can.

1:16:38Like me and Munchie have potted on the side. Like, you know what I'm saying? I rock with Spody. So I just try to just rock with people that I think are good. got me in the studio with the producer, bro. It's because, you know, I don't got a geek like Jaleese. No, we can get a record in. Damn, bro. I'm trying to make a Christian rap song. Let's do one. I'm the next Lecrae. I can rap about Jesus. Man, how about this? I fucking love Jesus. First bar. I'm sliding for Jesus. I'm going to kill the devil. I think if you, give that music video a shot when you get a second. It's actually pretty cool, bro.

1:17:07Check it out, bro. You should. Check it out. You're fired. I'm just not I already know I just feel like it just seems like it'll be okay you know what you guys talk amongst yourselves I'm gonna be right back in three minutes I'm gonna watch it you gotta go watch the video I'm gonna go watch it okay cool and I know what it feels like to you know my sister got saved back in the day and she was listening to Christian rap she used to make me turn off my rap say it's worldly music say why are you listening to this worldly music try to get me on it some of it was cool I remember there was like a fake Tupac sounding dude that was making Christian Red that she was listening to I'm like alright this is cool I guess.

1:17:48Yeah a lot of times people like convert they'll just like go OD into religion. Yeah she was OD with it when she first now she's balanced out you know she's pretty normal. It's just like new vegans like when people go vegetarian they're like how are you eating man? Yeah like you're a murderer. And then they calm down when they want a cheeseburger. Yeah and then. Scale it back. Like somebody who just got an abortion or something. Right. Man that was a dissection of me man. It hurt. I was trying to look cool. I think you look dope, Dope Boy. I think you're going to do your thing, man. You just got to see all the bullshit.

1:18:22Don't even listen to Adam, honestly. Just stay the same. I can only be me. What the fuck are you going to do? Who cares about him? Just stay the same. Keep rocking. Everything's going to see all right. That's what I think. Just never commit suicide. and we good. You want to talk about the banana situation or you want to wait for a minute? Oh yeah, yeah. I heard something about you were overseas eating bananas out of prostitute slash stripper vagina. So I go to Amsterdam. And does that make you gay in any way? Because it's kind of like the dick coming out of the vagina and then you're putting it in your mouth.

1:19:01Okay. But just tell the story first and then we'll get to that. First of all, I go to Amsterdam. Fun fact, Amsterdam, when I thought, because you know how weed has been legal there for all these years i thought they were going to have some of the most fireless weed trashest weed you ever smoked in your life in amsterdam horrible i know i heard it was ass over there like headaches stress weed like you know what i mean and i was even talking to some of the people that were selling they were like y 'all this they're like this stuff is just really for like tourists and stuff like you're not gonna get out of none of this like so so i go to amsterdam we was on a we was on a world tour doing comedy and stuff and so i went out you know i'm saying by myself that night to you know go to the to the red light district or whatever and so i go to this show and it's so bizarre they have like shows where like it'll be an audience of people and then people will be on stage having sex and everybody will just watch them have sex so it's like you guys are paying to be cucks pretty much essentially okay yes so we're watching it or whatever and so i you know i'm saying i'm watching it and i'm just like wow this is intense because people just sitting there eating popcorn and shit watching somebody up there clap yeaks i mean i guess that's cool you know and so then at the end of it um they wanted like some crowd participation so this lady was like you know i'm saying who's gonna come on stage like i didn't know like who's gonna no not but just who's gonna come on stage like to just like hype them up be a part of like a light man like you know fuck that bitch for me five right but there wasn't there wasn't when i went on stage so they stopped okay so then it's just a chick on stage so she was like who's gonna come up here and so there's this chick i guess in hindsight it did look gay but so she she she that was the trick like who's gonna come up and eat this No, I didn't know that when I went up there.

1:20:38I'm just thinking I'm going up there. I'm thinking I might get some yeeks. We going to mic up. So I go up there and so she sits down in a chair and she puts the banana. But it's like it's still in the pill. But then the banana part is out. And then she was like, she was like, you know, you look like you like to eat healthier. Are you going to have a bite of my banana? And so I was just like, I mean, I'm on stage. I didn't want it to be like I went down and fake pantomime giving her top. I just, I went and I ate a bite of the banana. No, no, wait, where, how did it go? It was inserted inside of her.

1:21:11With the stem on the bottom? Inside of her. Was inside of her? Inside of her. Along with the peel, and then the banana was peeled, like, kind of, like, cartoonly, like, half. And then it was just out. And then she was like, you gotta take a bite, and everybody was like, oh! And she put the stem in her vagina. She did. Okay. And then you went down, you knelt down? Yeah. How did you kneel down? You don't have to do it, but, like, did you get on your knees did not get on my hands hands and no no no i just went down i mean because the whole crowd was hyping it up like did you take one knee how did you get that i just got down and i just took i just took a bite of it and so i just took a bite of the banana that was lost in her vagina your ass when you ate it like i'm just trying to picture in my head okay that just catch me up you ate a banana of a stripper's vagina this is in amsterdam what year this is 2020.

1:21:59So this is after the Christian music video that I just watched? Yes. Jesus is dead. Jesus is not on that. No, so it was this show where there were these people on stage and they were having sex in front of an audience. And so then the lady calls me and she was like, you know, let me get a volunteer to come up here. So I don't know what it is, but I'm game. So I go up there. She has a banana. So the dude's gone now. So she has a banana and it's, think, a banana that's peeled, but then halfway way taken down and then she takes this part of the banana that's that's still in the pill and puts it inside of herself and she's like do you want a bite of my banana and this is in front of a crowd of people so i just didn't want to make it weird i'm already up there i'm just like all right so i go down and i ate the a bite of the banana did it feel like you were sucking a dick kind of no that's what i said no it wasn't like a dick style thing she just wanted to it's coming out of there it's literally dick shaped and then like did did he like nothing or like because he was just and then you're like down by her coochie.

1:23:00She wasn't the one that was actually smashed. There was other people that were smashed. Oh, so someone the banana girl separate from the fucking girl. Separate from the one that was just smashed. Okay, okay. That's good to know. That's sanitary. So they used to call me Donana back in the day. That was my nickname. I feel kind of with all the you know, C word talk lately I'm not going to do any like That's what I was thinking. That doesn't stand out to you as a little racist because we all know that like chimps and monkeys eat bananas. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm not going to even in the moment I didn't even think of it but I mean maybe.

1:23:28Do you think that's a good point? I don't think it's a good point. Do the builder. Throwing it out there. So what did so a scale of one to ten now lyrics, delivery, cadence, flow, energy. Energy. What do you think? Just a zero. I was just a zero. I mean you know what? You wasn't even gonna come in here and be like I don't agree with it but you was spitting that shit. No I can't like get into it. I'm not gonna like give you credit for being to like rap on me or whatever like i'm just i mean obviously it's christian rap it's gay but i don't um the one thing i thought was funny is that i think you're like you're still re-rocking fits from that video what oh no fits in that video that i've seen you wear oh my bulls jersey i mean i mean you know the throwback i know some people might like buy multiple jerseys throughout their life but yeah i gotta get my gear up man i'm on camera a lot these days that's all right i'm mostly wearing like our merch so i'm fine with that but um uh but then also like you're rapping about like being celibate and shit which really seems like it stands in stark comparison eating a banana of a woman's vagina on stage in front of people yeah what happened like how could jesus ever be cool with that that's why you know i fell back from it because i was just like man i'm out here out of girls vagina i fell back from it i was just like man i don't know if i'm a spokesperson for jesus right now i don't want to be embarrassed from rap oh so you fell back from christianity rather than eating no i feel like i have to keep having sex so i think erica kirk would probably be like pretty upset about the banana vagina story really i mean i don't think you're never gonna erica kirk sorry sucks but it was really sucks because i actually thought you were kind of in there yes i mean you know it's just like i don't to me like it being christian rap just like makes it so that i can't take it serious in any way it would be like I've heard like EBK J-Bo styled Christian rap recently on IG.

1:25:20And I was like, okay, now we're talking, you know, I mean, when you really, if you think about the fact that like probably like 98 % of rappers are professed Christians, but that Christian rap has never made like almost any dent in the culture aside from, I'm going to give Kanye his props because obviously he's really like, you know, he's involved that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty stunning to what extent like rappers and black people profess to be Christians, but then apparently have like essentially no appetite for that in the music. We got some Muslims out there, too. Some good Muslims in hip hop.

1:25:57That's a good point. Yeah, but even that. But it's mostly Christians. Lil Durk is a Muslim. And like if you listen to a Lil Durk album, it's probably like 1 % of what gets discussed in his bars. Right. Which to me, and that is why I really consider the average religious person to be completely full of shit is because if I was Christian or if I was religious in any way, I would find the existence of a God to be so fascinating, so worthy of conversation. And I actually, I said this on a podcast with some Christian Potter and they clipped it heavily. And a lot of Christians were really like agreeing with me and saying that what I was saying was proof about what bullshit Christians most people are.

1:26:37It would be so fascinating, so worthy of conversation that I don't know that I would ever talk about anything else. But the average Christian person just doesn't really talk about it. I can see that, but it's just like anything else in life. It's like, that's how we grew up since we're little kids. It's just kind of like matter of fact, you know, kind of type of thing where it's just like none of these people really believe it. That's what we just taught to believe. And, you know, I'm saying it's not like, you know, I'm sure if you're growing up and we're little kids, we're reading it. But it's like we're not also taking the book like as these literal stories.

1:27:08At least I don't. You know, a lot of Christians, the quickest way to start arguments is talk about religion and politics. So a lot of times people don't talk about religion to people because they don't want them to feel. but i think it's more just the lessons within the like bible and things like that more than like i think noah got a bunch of animals and put them on a big boat you know type of thing right and if you really believe that i was gonna burn forever by not taking jesus into my life you just wouldn't act the way that you act where it's like you know i don't think you really believe that i don't think any christian people really believe that because if you did you would just be talking about all the time i mean but it's just like your choice like god gave us free will so it's just like you know We could try to maybe convince you, but if you're an atheist and, you know, I don't know if that's going to happen.

1:27:51That's what they say. Maybe it will. Maybe it won't. I don't fucking know. If you thought that I was going to be in a car accident in an hour from now, you would like physically, if you knew that and I didn't believe it, you would grab me and wrestle me to the ground before you let me get in my car. Yeah. But if you were like smoking cigs, I wouldn't like tackle you and be like, you have to stop. You're going to die in 40 years. you know like maybe you'll die like you know four or five years before you would but yeah i think you're gonna live a long life and then maybe in the afterlife you'll burn in hell i i really don't know but that's just that's how we grew up i i believe there's like a higher power but the all the religion stuff you know higher power i can accept just because it's just a total generalized statement but like people who really believe that there's a hell it's just kind of like where did anything come from you know where did atoms come from where did all that it's just like you know That's kind of like its own conversation, but then like the idea that I'm going to burn in hell because I haven't accepted this Jesus thing.

1:28:51I mean, are we serious here? Like, I don't know. That is something that I used to struggle with in growing up, and I didn't understand that. But you know, I just. It's like all the religions think they're the right one. I just believe what I believe. Everybody's claiming that we got it right. I just believe in what I believe, and I refuse to interrogate it in any way I really even think about it deeply. It's kind of how I think. And you're like, yeah. Like, that is a problem right there. that's the lightest of glazing but like the way that we'll say you'll say something and then we'll say something that's completely in contradiction to that and you're like yeah because i can't force you to change your beliefs that's what you believe so i gotta be able to do on podcasts is they argue they don't just immediately roll over and just sort of allow the the other person to just like make their point you know i got it man this is where i'm at um i'm rocking with my catholics man We outside.

1:29:38How was your community experience? Was there like, did you feel you left on a good note? Yeah. It was super cool, man. Shout out to AD. Shout out Pum. Man, they treated me really good. They kind of pressed you. Yeah, they kind of got on me a little bit. Like, you know what I'm saying? We had some fun conversations, some cool things. But yeah, you know, it was a fun time. I definitely, you know, do it again. There was no no-jumper bashing. I mean, they gave me shit because they asked me about the tattoo. Then they asked me if I was on salary. and then when I said no, they just thought that was the most hilarious thing in the world to get a tattoo.

1:30:09They said per diem. He paid you a chipotle. He has a sidekick tattoo. He has like an iPod tattoo. Right. He's not getting a check from Apple. Shout out to iPod tattoo community. I mean, I don't know. I just like, I don't know. I mean, actually, to be fair, like I didn't really see that much conversation about the appearance. I don't really feel like they hit too many points that haven't been discussed ad nauseum on here. I did notice that I think that was the first podcast they've done in a long time that went over 20K views. No, you put up numbers. What's Burrell's name in the back? I've seen him before, too.

1:30:48Yeah, Brandon Lewis. He's really funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a good addition. And that's one thing I could say. He's a comic? Yeah. Yeah, Brandon Lewis. He was there at the Wild and Out thing. He was the one that was coaching Neon. Oh, okay. I think I met him then, actually. Yeah, he's a cool dude. Yeah, you should have him on there at some point. He's really funny. Super cool dude. But no, man, I had a good time over there. It was fun. One thing I can say that was a breath of fresh air, I laughed on that podcast so very, very much. I just had a really, really good time. So I'm hoping that that energy transfers.

1:31:21I feel like we've had some good moments today. We had some good laughs here and there. Yeah, you said that you felt like it's intense over here. Like the energy's pretty, very light. You know what I'm saying? I just felt like. You're the only person that really gets that treatment. Yeah, I come in. That's pretty, you know, happy-go-lucky. We're all giving each other high-fives. Hey, guys, what's up? Puts me on pins and needles a little bit. But, you know, I'm a professional, so, you know, I just try to work through it. But shit, this motherfucker told me a new ass today. I'm like, God damn. But I respect it.

1:31:50It's just like, you know, I feel like there's been a couple times where I, like, just have had things that it felt like I had to say. And then I just, like, you know, just I feel like I'm too polite. You know, it's like I try to, like, just be chill on the pause. and don't really want to get into it too much. But I feel like I got to speak on behalf of the community. Yeah. Not the community. You're definitely coming out that shell. You're letting me know. So you're not being overly polite. Zesty Vapors. Jesus, the cat do a fucking thing. God damn it. That's all my Zesty Vapors. Shout out to my Zesty Vapors.

1:32:26Zesty Vapors. ZVs. Shout out to my ZVs. ZVs. Shout out to the ZVs, man, my Zesty Vapors. We're outside. ZV click. yo yeah did y 'all see uh the diddy dick shit honestly i heard about it from you today sent me it and i watched like i was like they said he got a three incher oh whoa really because that's what sly digler said in the first so that's the same video that vlad saw is what vlad's claiming so it's it got leaked somehow he's saying the dude didn't is saying he doesn't know where it got leaked vlad doesn't know where it got leaked but it's the same video i saw like it's like 50 seconds or something let's get the doughboy live reaction fuck oh geez because i i have it but it's a it's a red room red light there's a girl giving vicious head to i assume to be the dude that vlad interviewed and sly diggler yeah and uh diddy is walking around jerking his little peter oh let's see here okay and it's a pretty crazy looking situation i believe he has baby oil or something at some point unfortunately i have the sound all the way down but what we can see here is sly diggler and i mean you got to give it to this woman who i really have never like so that's diddy's ass huh yes wow you got like a big look and then he's like applying like baby oil like make sure you get the baby oil in there she has some big fake tits and i'm very much in favor of big old fake tits oh yeah look at diddy's dick what adam lean no no yo did he they said did he got a micro bro yeah i mean you only saw for a second there i wonder who leekes but it has to be sly oh and there's diddy putting his hand oh that was it because this is this is supposedly the same video yeah wow yeah it was the same video that vlad saw that day when he interviewed him and it's because diddy took his phone thinking it was his and recorded the video and then uh didn't realize till later that it wasn't uh his phone wow how many tapes do you think he still has on deck from i mean thousands probably you would think that he would probably have like destroyed them or put them into like a very good hiding spot at some point along the way let the record also show that we don't need to discuss this at length, but Val had like 50k this morning and now has 70k on Instagram.

1:34:5670k? That video of him fighting has 44 million views. That might be like the best squabble caught on Metal Glasses to date. Maxine. Honestly, when I saw that clip, I kind of knew it was going to be that viral. I was like, if Val doesn't have some sort of restriction on his account that prohibits things from going viral, then that clip is going to be the biggest thing that's impressive in terms of just fighting like you have glasses on so if you get hit once pretty much they're flying off so he didn't get hit once and then you're just piecing this dude up like like he's a prime chuck liddell or something and the fact that like i know vel and i know that he doesn't want to me over and he's wearing my meta glasses and i know that in his head while he's fighting this guy he's running another script in his head that is like do not break these glasses because then you're gonna have to give out i'm like 450 or whatever and uh so he's running that in his head as well i was thinking the only other way that that clip could have been better is if he at some point took the glasses put them on the other guy and then proceeded to hit him with body shots and like maybe chin check with the actual glasses but then beat the shit out of him while he's wearing him once they're like staring into the sky because as viral as that clip is that the the one negative thing is that nobody else you don't get to see vel in it you know like it would have been cool if he like took him off and like sort of did a little selfie and put him back on and kept beating his ass what's really crazy about that shit too we're gonna get super into it tomorrow because vel is gonna come on here but nice the day we went to vegas last friday vel had a very similar altercation with that guy where that guy ran up on him in a laundromat while he was with uh the girl and vel was actually like telling me about how he was really close to whooping this guy's ass in the laundromat but he didn't want to arrest it or whatever so he didn't do it so that fight people don't know that like that's after like a week of vel controlling himself because i guess the girl that he's been hanging out with for the most part that's her baby daddy and he keeps like showing up he's tripping on valley like even that he was going he was like trying to like get into vel's car he was like messing with vel's car and that's what set vel off i don't even know how he became aware of it but i mean that that's got to be the the the greatest fight in the history of the no jumper universe for sure he was talking to him while he was whipping his ass which just made it up that's what i said they'll definitely got a mean squad like you good yeah good good I'm like, see?

1:37:34He keeps talking shit and just keeps pounding on him. I mean, the weirdest thing about it, too, is that because of the way that the glasses are, is like you could punch someone, but like, you know, your head turns a little bit. Yeah. Or whatever. So, like, you don't really see the punch. People thought it was fake and shit. Yeah, but then you see the guy's, like, face slowly getting red. Yeah, he's got welts on his forehead and shit. He looked like he did not want to fight him at all. He looked like he had the fear of God in his face. This type of thing definitely causes people to crash out sometimes.

1:38:00so I just hope that nothing more comes of it if that guy comes and kills you I'll understand that clip is so viral now for sure every single person who knows that his parents have probably seen that clip his ass was out I was like Jesus beat it your ass has been out a lot on this podcast in recent memory I have to say thank god it wasn't in that context it better not come out when Spody oh no you better double tie your shirt and you know what's funny too I've seen non-training, like, out of shape Vell knock people out a lot over the years. And now Vell has been doing boxing training multiple times per week.

1:38:41And I know he was excited to, like, demonstrate his skills that he's acquired. Because I don't think Vell ever did any kind of formal boxing training prior to the last couple months. And he keeps telling me, like, every time I see him, he keeps telling me, like, the ups and downs of the boxing training. Like he's had very bad sparring matches that kind of made him like question himself. And he's had sparring matches where he felt great and on top of the world. And to see that clip be kind of like the climate. I don't know how they don't just give him Nutty. Like how is Nutty even like, like how is this even a conversation?

1:39:13Like, of course he should be fighting Nutty. Of course. That's definitely the match to make. I'm not even going. I'm not going unless Bell's on there fighting Nutty. Like, come on. I'm not going. I'm not going to Vegas. And I've seen the other. You're not coming to see me? You're going to get knocked on in 30 seconds. I want to see Vel versus Nutty. But, yeah, I've seen the other people that are up for possibly the spot, and nobody's, you know what I'm saying, doing it up like Vel. It's not going to be even as fair. Vel's a good matchup for Nutty, and Nutty's way bigger than Vel, but Vel got a mean squabble, man.

1:39:40And he's been showing me some of the videos of him sparring and shit, and Vel's – he's in shape now, you know what I'm saying? Vel's on the skinny shit. You know, Vel's a problem out here, I'm not going to lie. And it's pretty – yeah, like even – yeah, I mean, even like seeing like Vince Staples like reacting to his fade was pretty hilarious to me just because Vince Staples is such a Long Beach legend who I've never like interacted with in any way besides one time awkwardly walking into a bathroom at the same time as him at Def Jam and like almost walking into each other. But just to see him showing love, that really kind of kind of warmed my heart.

1:40:17Yeah. No jumpers been going viral a lot lately. They've been, he's been clip after clip. He's already at 44 million. That thing's going to hit a hundred. 40 that fast? That's crazy, bro. That's crazy work. That's a lot of views. And it's just so great, too, because I don't really think that the AI is going to detect it as a fight. Because it doesn't really look like a fight because you don't really see him punching him. Yeah. Because that's what I keep waiting for is at some point this fight is going to lose its algorithmic support by Instagram because it's going to get flagged as a fight. and it doesn't at this point really seem like that's going to happen which is kind of astounding yeah i wonder if like the meta glasses because they're pushing all those videos heavy if you record it on the meta glasses maybe that's overriding it and they're like this is just good advertisement right here hey you can whip people's ass with our meta glasses on you know yeah it's insane you know he had to be confident as hell to fight with meta glasses on he didn't have any fear of getting hit in his face just start recording before he got into it and borrowed meta glasses and also the meta glasses only record for three minutes so you have to like start filming and then like whoop is quick it makes a sound when it stops but you know a normal person would probably have a hard time like resetting the the filming or paying attention for the noise or whatever but also like on twitter it seems like the uh community note system is pretty like well established like it seems like you know for the most part fairly trustworthy and accurate there is a community note on this fight which is normally used to like correct disinformation and the community note says bro caught a fade that's pretty dope like how did they how did that get through i don't really understand because i i was a part of the like community that you could like put the little community notes and shit on there it's just like you go in there on instagram on uh on twitter i was on there okay and uh you just like vote it's like a bunch of like a little moderators that get approved and then you vote on if uh this response is helpful and the information is correct and all these different categories and then it ranks it and then if i guess a bunch of people voted that that was the most useful information that broke out of fate yeah yeah if anybody knows a girl that wants to have sex with me on camera on wednesday just let me know because we're looking for a plug like replacement right now dope boy knows a girl I got one for you.

1:42:39He's bald.

1:42:43Just leave the bathroom unlocked. All right. We got anything else to talk about? I'm going to be real. I got to go by it. I got to leave by two or by one. It is one, I think. It is 12. 12.59. It is like one. Look at that. I don't know. Is there anything else we should talk about before we kind of. We didn't touch the J this to Drake. Yeah, we don't have enough time for that. We're going to do that tomorrow. Okay. But yeah, shout out to everybody who watched this. It does feel kind of weird getting on here and doing like an hour and 45 minute long podcast after so many four or five hour podcasts on Tuesday.

1:43:17But we chilling. How are you feeling, Dubois? It's going to be a rough night. But I am receptive to all the feedback. Josh hit me to do the news on Wednesday. So I'll take my notes and not make it about myself. Pay attention to the docket. Come in with some good views. and uh you've brought the word docket to this podcast i don't know if i've heard that i never heard the word docket i've heard it but just not on this podcast be like we got some topics but let me ask you how do you feel um anytime i probably do it feels kind of good to like you know give you a piece of my mind but uh then also it's kind of like coupled with like the depression of like you know realizing that the monday show is currently sort of like not what I believe that it'll ultimately be able to become.

1:44:06But, you know, I feel like us unloading on you is probably at least part of that, you know? Yeah. And I mean, all I can do is get better. I don't think I'm going to get any worse. So, you know, chill with all that glazing shit. Listen, have an introspective view on things. Don't just be cookie cutter with my takes. Listen, don't cut people off. And I think if I apply those things, I'll be okay. Okay. Facts. A couple more donations. uh reed robbins said diddy doughboy wow okay michael mac said doughboy is the worst host i've ever seen on this platform he's not funny and he gives fake ass person vibes zero authenticity in his bones at all fire him jesus that was intense um tdm fat cuz said so i guess he's not gonna fire him i'm canceling my membership wow that's fucked up we would love to continue to have you as a member friend but this shit's running uh xcf3 said jalique gonna be at the live show like denzel at the end of training day i'ma put cases on all you bitches adam give members a discount code for the show if dorilla does stand up i'm not going god damn rape case on everyone at the live show is gorilla shout out to dorilla man yo hey you know who else i'm putting on notice is astrid you might be cute but she didn't know who bro rilla was oh astrid oh wow like listen i mean how could you it's one thing you got something going on with josh it's kind of like a thing on the news now it's like if you're josh and you get to be on the news i don't know that's like how he's getting girls but i mean that's that's crazy how you think Doughboy got back on the news on Wednesday.

1:45:51I could see it. Yeah, I mean, I just told you that in confidence. My bad. I think as much introspection as Doughboy has been getting, I think Astrid is going to have to also be on the receiving end of some of that. She's got to be on next Monday. We're going to grill her all episodes. Maybe she'll be a great co-host for this, yeah. Okay, and then Dago Stunna said, Doughboy always been a trick since back in the ADD days. Bro needs to get some real game. He's way too old to be thinking this way. love Doughboy but damn you was tricking I didn't buy a few weeks about a couple weeks well when he says a trick I feel like he just means like a bitch not like a guy who spends money on girls right I don't know I thought a trick was like specifically but you didn't say anything about that besides maybe like glazing Jalees a little bit right um okay we read that one um Um, Steezy Muslim, we read that.

1:46:48Um, this one's funny. J.E. said, Doughboy has some issues to work through, but the talent is there. Just gotta try and keep the focus on you to a minimum. Okay. Um, Swing of the Axe said, Doughboy does suck, but so does everyone else. Adam isn't as good as he thinks. He ruined the last Tuesday show and Lush is embarrassing. W, everyone sucks. Let's go. You know, presumably there'll be at least a little bit of dialogue about what happened last Tuesday, but the one thing that I noticed is that I didn't see one person say I was wrong. It was just the way you delivered it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is usually how these things go.

1:47:22But I still, it felt like I was so self-evidently right that at some point... You guys were kind of having two different arguments. But that was the thing is that Lush refused to articulate his argument. True, but also you kept cutting him off when he started to talk because you're getting frustrated by him. Because he would just start saying other things and it was driving me insane, honestly. He pretty much explained it was like TMZ is in terms of like they report on low hanging fruit ragtag. Not that they're not credible. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah. And then he felt like Flocko, Traplor having a relationship, some type of relationship.

1:47:55They should have done more due diligence, which I still didn't agree with that point. But at least, you know, I guess that's his point. Yeah. OK. Ghost Dog TV said Doughboy turned on his own people for whites in the group chat and they exposed you. We don't respect you. Doughboy is skunk. he stinks the joke was observational damn it do not bring it back to that no please god that was probably the low point of you since i've known you what that the joke yeah yeah that's a low point that joke that convinced me that you are out of your mind more than anything else that's happened i thought you were going through something like the 24 everything 420 like No, I just thought it was a funny take.

1:48:40You know what I mean? You were so wrong. It was just so the opposite of funny. I could see where maybe you could get into that idea to make a joke. That was just the premise, guys. Okay, yeah, the baseline. We would have added more punchlines and layers to it. I didn't want you to just go out and say just that. Yeah, we were supposed to riff off of it. It was just the premise, and then we were just going to add layers and add more punchlines. I don't think you could find a comic alive who would tell you that that was good. I'm going to send it out to some of the homeless. Yeah, send it to Craig Smith.

1:49:10Don't change it. Tell us what he said. I will read it to Craig Smith, and I guarantee you'll fall out of his chair laughing the same way we did. I don't know him that well. Maybe that's the effect. But if he's a reasonable thinker, I think that he would probably have a very similar reaction to us. Okay. When we interview him, we'll do it. The real baby Chad said, there'll probably be so many more things by then, but the real baby Chad said, would your daughter at Howard appreciate that joke? This is why I don't like Doe. He was cool, but he likes to COON too much for me. Shrug, change, bro. I'm in my...

1:49:46His heart! Yo, shout-out to Dr. Umar reposting us, man. Shout-out to Dr. Umar. We're standing on business. Base God 40 Woody said, Adam, I'm trying to see where Vel parked his car. I want next. That performance was weak. Hey, find out. If you want that, then by all means, you should go and get that. But Mr. John Doe said, I just peeped. I'm John Doe and you Doe Boy. Don't be f***ing up the name, gang. I like you, N-word, but chill, buddy. Ricky K. Damn. Do you think that Ricky should be on the next Monday show? Yes. I'd like that. There we go. Yep. That could be entertaining. Me, Ricky, and Doe Boy already potted.

1:50:21Yeah, that's fun. We had a good time. Yeah, yeah. That was the best pod I think I've had when Doe Boy was at one. When are we going to get to see the Crib Mag episode that you recorded? Probably drop it this week. Probably drop it tomorrow. that's supposed to be a weekly pod I don't know he had hit my boy back I don't know I think he might have changed his mind so I'm not for sure we'll see Crip Mac might have changed his mind he's not fucking with you not on anything negative or anything from my perspective Crip Mac is pretty much if there's money involved he's showing up you did say you were a blood that might have messed things up I don't think that's going to happen I actually I talked to Crip Mac about you on the podcast that we just did I honestly can't really remember how it went but you paid him?

1:51:03Huh? No. Oh. Well, we just worked. I mean, you know, that's normally how it works. If you do somebody's pal, you just, you gotta pay him or pay him no attention. Did he say positive things about me? Did he say good things about me? I don't remember. But I, that's the thing about CritMag is that anytime anybody asks me about getting him to do anything, I'm like, he's not gonna do anything for free ever. Right. He will never do anything for free. I get it. He's about his business. Even when he was there, like he was making a bunch of calls text. He's about his business. He's always doing business.

1:51:32He's a business man. He's a business man. I don't really know where his money goes but he needs a lot of it to keep things going. That much is clear. Is he going to be at the live show? Definitely not. Oh okay. He cannot be around. Yeah C-Mac does a lot of collabs that's for sure. He pops up on my TikTok on just random people's shit and it's always him doing something crazy and wacky. Man this episode was cool though. We had a good conversation. It was dope. I liked it. You putting a positive spin on it as admirable. This was an amazing podcast. It was good. The intention of this podcast was really to kind of let you know that you're hanging on by a thread.

1:52:10You're on thin ice, buddy. And I don't say that to be mean, but it seems like that's pretty obvious to everybody watching, but then you're kind of like throwing a positive spin on it, which is kind of crazy that you'll even glaze a podcast. But thin ice, you could slide across thin ice like toboggans. The wise man once said. And the key word that you said, I'm still hanging on. That's true. Got to look at the podcast. The cat on the motivational posters, just hang in there. I got a lot of faith in Doughboy. I got a goal to survive the year here. That's my goal. And like I said, when Adam left, honestly, just don't change, bro.

1:52:46Just keep doing your thing. I mean, the perspective of Moose Man is an interesting one because Moose Man is someone who, you know, him being on No Jumper consistently on, like, having a Monday slot is kind of like, if Doughboy's gone, then it's like a state of chaos. So he kind of, like, wants Doughboy to continue and prevail. For sure. But then at the same time, I think, like, Moose is not, you know, he can't be ignorant to the fact that, like, the Monday show hasn't really become what it's supposed to be. he knows the shows on no jumper kind of tend to get canceled pretty quickly especially the monday shows yeah monday has always been a tough day for us but i do think that like i'm pretty determined to make monday a thing even if it's rough even if it takes quite some time and i've heard you say this so that's why i'm not as you know like yeah wiping my forehead but also i still know that we gotta pick it up yeah it can't always be like you know my presence on it can't always be a thing because there's just going to be things sometimes that I have to do.

1:53:47You got a nut. Sometimes I have to nut. Sometimes I have to put shit in my ass, big cartoon dildos. Yeah. And that's not gay. Adam, I really respect the fact that you put big cartoon dildos in your ass. And that's not gay because it's not a guy doing it. No matter how cartoonishly large they are. Cartoon dildos in the house is definitely part of life. We've all been exposed. okay I'm gonna go do birthday stuff with Lena and I'm glad that this was what I did with my day prior to that I'm gonna go and reflect about everything that just happened yeah go have a drink I'm gonna go live in a little bit y 'all man's check me out Mooseman916 on YouTube and we got some real good stuff premiering on the channel as well today the Rios interview is premiering at 2 Spencer Pratt is premiering at 4 Pacific standard time and yeah so go watch those and chat about them on the internet and what not and yeah we'll see you guys tomorrow for the Tuesday show at 4pm that will also be a members only experience and at some point today this episode will premiere for non-members because we're going to get it out the same day and I assume that will probably be 4 o 'clock if Spencer Pratt premieres at 4 then that will maybe be at five okay so and buy tickets to the live show y 'all and definitely june 24th we want to see each and every one of you and how about this for a deal how about this for a deal oh we have a sponsor free eighth for everybody who comes to the show think about that that means you're smoking it out you're basically going to the live show for free because i think the tickets are what like 40 bucks maybe 50 bucks and this is some gas a 40 dollar eighth is kind of standard today especially if going to the smoke shops actually it's a huge deal for the if you go to the smoke shop i think 80.8 is kind of standard at the smoke shops i don't really know i haven't been to one in a long time but for some gas some super gas and that's what we're giving we're working on free apparel can we smoke in the venue yeah that's a question i don't want to say yes because probably their actual policy is no but i will say that every no jumper podcast that we've ever done live including in the one in New York and both of the ones in LA, everybody has always smoked freely in the audience.

1:56:13So I can't promise you that the staff will allow that on that day, but historically that has always happened. And keep in mind, this is the kind of venue where they do rap shows where in LA, if you go to a rap show, people are smoking weed in the crowd. There's absolutely nothing. They can't tackle us all. Yeah. Come on chat. They can't fuck us all in the ass. So shout out to everybody who watched this. We love you all. Bye. Taylor Swift is on the Toy Story 5 soundtrack. Oh, she posted about it on Instagram. Toy Story 5. Toy Story 5. You haven't seen the billboards? TS. Toy Story and Taylor Swift.

1:56:48I know. And I told my girl, I'm like, you know what that means to some people is transsexual. Toy Story 5 and Adam's butt. Love y 'all chat. Peace.