Dreamllife Rizzy on EBK Jaaybo Beef, Swamp Storiez, Bay Area Politics & More

29:35No unmarked vehicles. They're going to set a drone on you. Listen, they're going to set a drone on you. That's about a few thousand feet up, and it's just going to trail you the whole time. And then when you hit a corner or something, they're going to box your ass in. But it's not going to be black and white stuff. It's not. We got gang tasks. Straight gang tasks. Straight undercover police. They're pulling up in Hondas and shit. Matter of fact, before gang tasks, we had bip tasks. It's been gang tasks, though. Now they have different tax units For everything in the city Let's keep it silent though Big tax was on dick You couldn't wear nothing black You couldn't even slide in the city Bro you know I was sliding I was bad It was on niggas bumpers You go anywhere in the city You gonna see the police out of nowhere No no no They flying out the car So you're saying that like With all that license plate technology that the classic move of like stealing a car and then spinning on your ops and then ditching the car that that just is not what it used to be nah you can't do that shit no more yeah in order to do anything in San Francisco you gotta be like here also think about like they have drones I don't think they're doing this yet but like they have drones positioned all over the city and then you shoot somebody and the closest drone is just there and it follows whoever seems like they're responsible they're gonna dispatch a drone that motherfucker going to go right to that area and if eyewitnesses got anything of that car like oh it was a blue Nissan that drone is going to circle until it finds that blue Nissan when they find that blue Nissan it's going to show you and they're going to blitz your ass going right to jail even that phone stealing shit that you were talking about or attempted murder the phone stealing shit that's long past now it's like the VIP task yeah but even that technology that you could just use to be like hey this guy's face put it into the AI oh here's 20 different times that he stole a phone all of a sudden they put a case on you you're done yeah Nah they cooking shit out there in the city But let me tell you what's so crazy And I hate to be like the revolutionary of this shit Or like really had figured it out But they allow all the fentanyl shit though They just don't want Robberies, gun violence But drugs?

31:42Oh yeah they using the drugs to clean the streets of San Francisco up But you gotta understand How many Okay out of three people search it up Out of three people how many people die of fentanyl overdose Every day It's probably crazy I don't know. You tell me. More than likely two. It's upwards of two people every single day that die of fentanyl overdose in San Francisco. Way more than that. So you feel like they're letting fentanyl run rampant because it's killing all these people. It's killing the homeless population. Really? Wow. See, people don't be thinking a shit like that. People be thinking like, oh, bro.

32:17Like, bro, look, this is what they do. They let that shit run rapid through the streets, clean out the homeless population, and guess what? Send all the Hondurians and whoever down there that's selling that shit right back to their country. Wow. They do be taking them to jail. No, they take them to jail. Bro, I know. We fought cases. We be in court listening. They let a motherfucker get caught with a brick of fentanyl and OR. But I had a gun charge. Simple gun possession, right? And did two years on ankle monitor. Think about it. They OR 'ing a brick of fentanyl. Like a whole brick. Like, they're telling us a kilo of this, half a brick of meth, nigga, two eight balls of cocaine and OR.

33:06Me and Cuz is sitting there like, bro, what the? Like, we listen and pay attention. That's another thing. Don't be paying attention. I'm listening and paying attention to everything they're doing in court. Y 'all ORing everybody. And I'm sitting there like, bro, why do I still have this on my leg for a simple gun possession? Yeah. Ah, man. It's wicked. it i just like i'm kind of struggling with the idea that all those people are gonna die just all the homeless people are gonna die and then at some point the problem will be better i feel like it doesn't really work that way because normal people just like get into fentanyl or get into hard drugs and like become these homeless bums on the street right so yeah true but listen you gotta understand though like our generation is not like it's a druggie generation for sure but not as bad though.

33:50It feels like that? Yeah. Like a lot of the people that's on that finnaw shit is older. Yeah. They're between 25 and 45. You know what I'm saying? And most of them are at the tail end. Like the 38s, 30s. You know, they at the tail end where they so deep in life. You feel what I'm saying? They feel like there's no way to come back from that shit or it's just really too late. So they just going all out with it. I mean, your average your average your average like early 20s person in San Francisco like what drugs do they do probably weed lean perks you know okay it's like niggas is dying from fake perks yeah that shit shit our age group is dying from fake perks so niggas be even scared to kind of take perks but then like You feel me?

34:48Everybody got their own vice. So it's like, you can't really stop a nigga from doing what he got. He going to do exactly what he want to do when it comes to the drugs. So it's like, everybody is either on lean or perks. But, you know, I just suggest everybody to be an alcoholic like me. Just drink, bro. But everybody smokes weed and drinks alcohol. Everybody smokes weed and drinks alcohol. I know a nigga that didn't wake up from a fake perk. A few of them, yeah. A couple of them. Fat nigga. A lot of them, yeah. Nah, that's crazy. That's about the time when I figured I would just stop. Everybody started dying from fake Zans and shit.

35:22You was f***ing with the Zans? Oh yeah. Did speaker knockers die from a Zan? I don't know. No, it was syrup. It was syrup? Damn. Allegedly. Allegedly. I'll take Zans and wake up the next day. Little Peep died from Zans. He posted photos on his Instagram with him with the Zans crushed up on his tongue. And basically it was like some fan gave him to him. And he just died right there on the bus. And then Juice WRLD died, no Percocets. He took mad Perks when they pulled over his jet. That's crazy. That was Perks? That was Perks. Well, his homies, his, like, management basically are, like, somebody, we don't know who was with him, basically had, like, hella pounds on the private jet.

35:59And so the feds, like, raided the private jet. And then he allegedly, like, took a bunch of the Perks that he had so that he wouldn't get caught with them. But, I mean, he might have already just been on a bunch of Perks at that time. And, like, all of a sudden you're stressed out. your heart starts going crazy. For sure. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Damn, Jules. I feel like they're checking that. But I mean... Shit, if I'm up an M, I ain't tripping. Go ahead, give me my little three-month-old. See, that's why I don't really believe the idea that he just, like, scarfed down eight perks because it's like, if I'm Juice WRLD, they catch me with six perks.

36:32Who the fuck cares? That's nothing. Them conspiracy theories. But I'm saying, if a nigga's doing it, all of a sudden you just overdose, like, you feel me? Like, it makes sense. People do that, though. But, like, brother, I don't think he was that scared. alright we ain't even gonna go to him. He used to pop like 8 to 9 perks at a time. He said that in the interview. This 6 or this 7. So when he was on the jet they said allegedly that he took him and then he ended up having a seizure and then he passed. Damn that's f***ing bad. And it's like while he's like handcuffed and shit. That's right. I don't even need no weed.

37:06I don't even need no weed. Nah that's way better. Okay so like you finished high school? Hell yeah. I graduated. Okay. Shout out to my mom. You know, God rest her soul. She passed away in February. RP my auntie. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I did that shit for her and my four sisters. Like, they was like, bro, you got some other shit going on. Because we was in Oakland. I got in trouble for some crazy shit. And they was just basically like, look, you know, just do your shit. Because at the end of the day, you a man. You the man of the family. At some point in time, your dad getting old as fuck. so you're going to have to step up to the plate to a degree and make something happen for everybody.

37:42I don't know what you're going to do, nigga, but you better figure it out. I'm like, well, the least I can do is start a foundation. I know if I got my high school diploma, I could get a job. I know if I could get a job, then I could excel in that job, excel in that job. And then one day I could be in position in that job to be making$100 ,000 a year. And that was my goal. Get a job, go crazy in that job, rise through the ranks and just, you know. but then after doing the job shit it was like right wait how long did you give it uh i gave it about five years yep so i'm like 18 to like 23 like 18 17 18 to 23 okay i'm like this shit i'm gone oh yeah i know i know dudes who like you'll know them during like the part of their life where they're kind of having fun and shit and then all of a sudden they have a kid they have two kids and then all of a sudden they just get the like 50 hour a week job and it can be crazy just seeing how it sucks the life out of them having no fun having to play this character do some shit that they don't want to do day in day out like it's crazy i know a few people like that yeah i know a few people like that that just be like bro like yeah bro i make 60 to an hour 120 double time but bro this shit phony like i'd rather really just be on a beach with dollars in my pocket i mean you respect it because that's what you got to do as a man at a certain point but it also like me as a kid when i was 13 14 when i was kind of realizing like oh this is how life works i was like yo i'm gonna do anything to avoid that yeah because i know that shit's gonna suck the life out of me that's what i did bro i swear to god i used to try to get jobs this nigga was like brother I put my money into my music He's like Put it all Every dollar Every money I get I'm just doing my music It's gonna pay off one day You feel me Even with them little $100 Or$50 United Masters checks I ain't give a I'm like It's due time Video Video $100 This is the last $100 I got Video bro No clothes What kind of jobs Were you working During that five year period Little rinky dink jobs The best job I ever worked Was the airport like that shit was fun I'm gonna tell you why it was so fun because I had like real freedom at the airport to a degree because I was a lead ramp agent so I had like real freedom I had my own little team with me and all my niggas like I had all my niggas at the airport so it was never born like Z over there laughing because he f***ing know we were stugging at SFO we were stugging it wasn't nothing we couldn't do we got access to this whole airport it's millions of tourists coming in and out of here every day oh it's money in this you know the Migos they never go away really?

40:29now I'm in a bag how are you monetizing this job? there's a lot of options and things I can kind of imagine go to the airport if you want a foundational job just something to get you some little pay if you 18 fresh off the press you need some good money go to the airport because you're going to go to the airport and you're going to find a little side hustle it's going to be somebody at the airport that's small so you sell them weed on a break and then he gonna tell her and then it's just gonna trickle down before you know it you selling weed to the whole airport at 12 o 'clock because that's when everybody lunch break is at the airport same time three different companies at the same time you got 20 different customers like bro can I just get an A real quick I'm gonna go to La D and smoke before you know it you done made$3 ,000 in one day so at the same time they were working at the airport and shit though you're like thinking like I'm gonna do something else I'm gonna figure out how to get out of this shit.

41:22Yeah, when I was working at the airport, I was still robbing. So it was like, nigga, what's the next big lick? Because I ain't going to lie smack for 20 bands out of bag at the airport. Just my bro, the bag came through, what's that shit called? The baggage claim? Yeah, yeah. And he called it in. He called me like, hey, Riz, brother, I ain't going to lie to this bag. That's my hella weed. He's going down to the bag room. Just had Brodyn him down in the bag room. Check the bags. He was sitting there. So Brodyn him down in the bag room. He wasn't scary, but he was just a little stupid. For me, that's my brother back, though.

41:54He's slow. This nigga kind of slow. This nigga opened the bag. He touched the money. He called me. He's like, but I ain't gonna lie. Some money in the bag. It's like$1 ,500. I said, all right, it's good for sure. Send a bag, dude. We need that. So I switched my flights. I'm like, bro, like, hey, can I work on this flight? Because I got this to do, and I got to leave early. So can I work on this flight instead? They're like, it's good. So what I do is I go in the bin, stack all the bags. As soon as I feel the bag coming up, it's empty. I shake it. I hear the money. I'm like, that ain't$1 ,500, nigga.

42:28That ain't$1 ,500. Hold on. So I stack all the bags, leave that one bag in the front, and I pop that motherfucker over, man. Try 20 ,000. Try 20 bands. I'm having a panic attack in the pit, though, like this. Heart like this. I start stuffing that shit all in my drawers and shit. I'm like, man, we out of here. I instantly ran down to the mat bro my stomach hurt bro I shit on myself Like a little shark or like a phone log I'm like bro I'm fucked up bro I think I shit on myself I gotta go home He like what I'm like yeah bro I'm fucked up And he went home counted that shit on I called brother back I'm a real nigga Like I'm real any of my niggas will tell you Like I'm not no slide the dice ass nigga Like I'm gonna really break bare with my brothers I called him I'm like nigga it's not no 15 honey He's like bro what you mean bro what is like 800?

43:18I'm like no nigga this 20 ,000. He said what? I said I'll see you when you get home. Click. That nigga pulled up collected his 10 and we've been booming ever since. Wow. I ain't never looked back after that. I'm like if I could touch 20 ,000 out of here I could touch 20 ,000 everywhere. But you were stressed out about getting caught? Nah. No? Because it was illegal. Oh. Airport you only could transport$5 ,000 in cash. I thought it was 10. 10 ,000. No it's 10 ,000 now. Okay. You know I used to work at the airport. At first, it was five. They moved it to seven, and now it's at 10. Okay. But, like, anything past 10, you got 30 ,000 in your bag.

43:54We swiping that. You got 10 ,000 in your bag. We swiping that. You got 2 ,500 in your bag. We swiping that, for sure. If I see it, it's gone. Interesting. For sure. What the fuck? Interesting. But you were thinking about rapping all the time, too? The whole time I was rapping, but I just wasn't dropping music because, like. This episode is supported by FX's The Shards, a seductive drama from executive producer Ryan Murphy. Set in 1980s Los Angeles, the series follows a group of glamorous, deeply entangled high school seniors drawn into a life of wealth, beauty, parties, and excess. At its center is Brett, whose reality begins to unravel when the arrival of a new student coincides with a series of mysterious murders.

44:36FX's The Shards premieres August 5th on FX and Hulu. I understood like to come into the game, you got to be polished. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, and I just felt like me personally at that time, I wasn't polished. And then I'm hella shy. Like people don't know that though. Like I really don't like hella attention. I got it. But like, I don't really too much care for that shit. I really rather be the under nigga on the under, just chilling in the background. Like, like rapping ain't necessarily my passion. That's my little cousin passion, Varsky. Dream like Varsky. He couldn't be here today, but like that's his passion.

45:09Like he's the one who got you into rapping? Yeah for sure Like that really made me be like Hella serious And this dude I'm like bro You gotta be fucking too rapping Like bro I don't give a fuck about this shit Like you know I'm some other shit I'm the reason this nigga Even rapping For real shit That's what I said This nigga had to stop I did stop Let everybody get in his head Man fuck this shit We was nigga Really in the streets nigga But then when we did that one thing You feel me Crack for them G's I'm like really Fuck rapping I'm like fuck rap Until this day I tell this nigga Like bro You just gotta focus on rap bro But you know what really kept me going though.

45:42Everybody kept dissing me. Niggas just kept talking shit about me. So I'm like, this shit, hold on. But you weren't even rapping yet, but people were dissing you? Or you were rapping like a little bit? I was rapping a little bit, but niggas just kept dissing me. Like I was dropping a little shit here and there. Okay. But I didn't have no expectations for it to go up. But you had ops? Hell yeah. Okay. I was in the streets way before I was doing any music. So people in SF are so beef thirsty that they're just dissing anybody. You work at the airport. I was working at the airport, but I was still on bullshit though.

46:10It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I'm just f***ing around now, but that's crazy. So, all right. So, you were getting motivated by that. Like, I got to clap back. Yeah. Hell yeah. Don't say nothing about me. Leave me alone. Actually, I just really want to be left alone. Yeah. Don't say nothing about me. I won't say nothing about you. We can just keep this shit cordial and squirt away. But, like, I mean, I just think, like, with this shit now, like, it's the eagerness to want to go against, like, the five shit. because we so new on the scene to people. But in reality, we've been around. We've just changed names so many times.

46:47But we've been around, though. So what were the other names? The first name that we had was Loaf It Up. That was way back, though. That was like 2011. It was like Loaf It Up. Then we had SMD. Then we had Cold Case Gang. We ain't even did shit to be no Cold Case Gang. We were just running around riding ripsticks and shit. And we just had hella stupid ass names. And then eventually, like, we just became five. Okay. Damn. Damn. All right. So you probably know everybody that he's ever beefed with, right? I was just going to ask him, who was the first rapper to diss you? Shit. I ain't going to lie.

47:26The first rapper to diss me, like, directly, it was a few of them. Who was the main one that caught your attention? The main one. That made you respond? The main one that made me respond. Actually, I'm going to keep it solid. I'm going to be so honest with y 'all. It wasn't no rapper that actually dissed me directly. Like, oh, Riz, woo, woo, woo. No, no, no, no, no. Niggas never dissed me directly until like way later down the line. But like somebody had dissed my brother in a song. You feel me? And I let that shit slide like all facts. Feel me? I heard somebody say my brother name in a song. I'm like, oh, shit, bro.

48:04I'm like, tweaking. and at that time like we it's going up like it's all this shit going on so when these had dropped that i let that shit ride for like five months like i had all facts just in the vote for five months but you said you wish you dropped it earlier right yeah i wish i dropped it earlier for sure but then at the same time i'm happy i did exactly what i did because right when that shit started to fizzle out i kicked it back up they like what the fuck who is he what are you i was like yeah man was that your first like because that's like your biggest song that's my biggest song right now.

48:33Was that like the first song to really go crazy or? Hell yeah. Just took shit to another level. Well, 30 with 30 was like super old, but like that was like one of the first ones where I was just dissing them. Like just dissing everybody. I didn't give a fuck. And All Facts was the one that Swamp Stories put onto EBK J-Bo. Swamp Stories put EBK J-Bo onto All Facts, correct? Sure. And then J-Bo was the first person I think I ever heard say your name because he just said that you were like one of his favorite rappers when I first said it. That's my son right there. I love you to death. That's my boy.

49:01that's my boy right there nah yeah he was putting on so I mean I was watching Swamp Stories break down like why that relationship fell apart and he basically just said it's part of the it's more like the overall politics with the bigger categories of who gets along with who and that J-Bo and you at a certain point just weren't supposed to be in along and it just turned into that or is it more specific incidents nah It was more so on some shit. For one, to me, I could never respect no nigga like that. He not no leader to me. You feel me? He a follower to me. Because it was a situation to where a lot of shit could have been avoided.

49:45That whole situation could have been avoided. That shit ain't have to even rock like that. I really didn't have no problem with nobody over there. I don't give a fuck who associated with who. You feel what I'm saying? Everybody is in this shit to make money. I've grown to a point to where I'm much short enough In my mind to understand that Op niggas gonna associate with niggas I'm cool with and all the way around the board When it comes to gain some money At the end of the day everybody got a family to feed I heard you say that in the other interview Where you were basically like I don't give a f*** I'm not dealing with that shit Honestly that's like one of the first street rappers I really heard say that Everybody just kind of takes it for granted That you just have to pick a side And nobody's surprised when Drake says he doesn't want to do a song with young boy because he with Dirk.

50:29Yeah, bro, but the thing about it is niggas always say they got to pick a side, but niggas don't even do that shit in their own wars. In their own beef, pick sides. Niggas be on some shit, bro. But I got a cousin over there and a brother. Niggas don't be on that. So the way I be looking at it is if you are out of town, nigga, just stay in your place. You don't got no place in what we got going on. Stay over there. I'm content with you doing what you do As long as you never cross game Niggas know how they can cross game Don't have me pulling up when you got this nigga pulling up Don't have me rocking around When he rocking around Don't be doing no shit over here with him Dissing my dead niggas and then doing some shit Like you feel what I'm saying Just don't do no weird shit Just stay in your lane The way niggas could have took that Is like alright bro That's what it's gonna be And what I'm gonna do is I'ma continue to fuck with y 'all how I fuck with y 'all like you get what I'm saying on cordial shit cause I'm from an hour away I don't even really know what's going on so I'ma stay out of it and see how this shit play out you get what I'm saying nah definitely nah that makes sense niggas just jumped in full fledged but it was more it's like hella funny then they made it some internet shit that's what make it some police shit and then that's the whole thing about it niggas brag up like or say something about us going to the net I ain't never went to the net I might have went to a song but niggas was dissing me and just didn't know I heard all the unrelease that's it so I just clapped first how are you hearing the unrelease cause nigga might have rank on the internet but I got rank in the streets so you can say whatever you want but somebody is gonna send it to me at some point in time I'm gonna hear it I heard all these niggas diss songs before they dropped all of them they like riz bro look at this unrelease pages this page that page fake pages little bitches everybody sending it to me like bruh you heard this he just sent this to woody woody and it's just like alright hold on let me go ahead and go doctor some shit up real quick flush him out he can't fuck with me I'm stupid tripping but I mean what has it been like for you to see J-Bo like gather such a crazy amount of momentum in his career doing so good and then just doing a lot of crash out shit that has basically all that up he don't got the proper niggas around him he don't got no guidance like it's like you got It's like you a kid with money and then you got a whole bunch of kids around you.

52:56Like, this is why I don't respect. Where is the older niggas from Nightingale telling them to be cool? Like, bro, chill out. Like, you feel me? And I'm not saying that he necessarily could be dictated by that. But it's like, is there no interference in saving face? Like, you're not going to try to save the face of your section? Like, you're not going to tell him, like, well, bro, come back with us. Like, you feel me? We on some player shit. We on some cool shit. this is how I know all that shit that niggas be doing be a fallacy you feel me right cause there's been a lot of times in my life like I'm thinking back to like Lil Pump just cause I was talking to him earlier and like when he was at the height of his shit bro his management team was just around all the time and you could tell that their job was basically to make sure that he did not get into any of the shit that he would have got into otherwise in terms of you know crazy party shit going on with girls or kind of like limiting the drugs or definitely not letting him ride around with pipes, making sure that there's security and shit.

53:54Yeah. I mean, like every single time that J-Bo gets caught, like driving around with lean and guns and shit, you're just like, damn, there should have been somebody to make sure that that didn't happen, right? But it's like, you feel me? You're not going to get that. Like, I don't know. Me personally, like when I'm older, like you feel me? Like I got a different mindset. Like we got families to feed. And the way I look at this shit is people might think I look at it as like just some San Francisco shit or like, you know, just my city versus everybody. Like, nah, I don't look at it like that. I look at it like Northern California.

54:26Like, it's about time that we get on the map. It's about time that we do something dynamic aside from Mac Dre, E-40, Too Short, and Thiz. Like, it's about time we step out of the hyphy area and make our own. Like, what the does our generation have? Nothing. Literally, LA got their own scene. They got everything. You feel me? They got the three or four scene. They got the, you know what I'm talking about, Adam? They got multiple different scenes where they could hit. Like they doing hella shows. Like, you know, they coming up to the bay doing shows and bringing us out. No, what the, we should be doing shows and bringing them up from down South, bringing them out.

55:04What do you think is the biggest thing that holds Northern California from kind of having that bigger reach, but for the record, like LA feels the same way. Like we all feel like LA music is so dope, but then nobody listens to it outside of LA, even though there's obvious examples, like somebody like Kendrick that goes way outside of LA, you know? Yeah. I think with California period, it's just crabs in a bucket, but then it's also geographical location. You got to think, down South Louisiana and Texas is like three, four hours away. You get what I'm saying? Like all that shit is like right there.

55:36You know what I'm saying? My aunt, all that shit is like within an eight hour drive, as opposed to here, like going across the whole California, mean like top to bottom how many hours is that right you know what i'm saying so how many cities are you gonna touch like we got like seattle and like oregon and tacoma washington and like you know we got like the northern cities and shit but like in vegas and reno but like bro they got major cities like down there that's all right there new orleans baton rouge tech like houston Dallas all that shit is right there it's not far so it's not hard to you know what I'm saying network it's not it's down south and then another thing with them they bought they people down there you see how Atlanta is like this no yeah you're in Houston and you're just hearing Big X the plug and Sauce Waka and all this Texas shit you're hearing mad shit that you never heard before unless it's 50 unless it's 50 Bay Area in the building at that time you're not gonna hear no bay area music in texas i know i was down there you're not gonna hear no shit like that they gonna look at the dj like hey bro like turn that shit off that's just like what it's turning into where shit is just hella regional sound wise but then there's like few artists who are able to break through but it's like if you go to detroit they're listening to detroit rappers for the most part you go i was just in new york they're listening there's a bunch of new york boom bap shit that sounds crazy to me coming from la you know it's wild how regional shit is even though like we all have access to so much information on the internet it's so easy for me to listen to music from somebody from texas and i and i do for sure i dabble in it but it feels like the average person is really able to just focus on like their city their city yeah but you know streaming kind of that up too yeah streaming kind of made that a thing where it's like like bro if you just stream you ain't got to do shit else you ain't gotta travel what the California for when I just did 10 million streams in California?

57:38What do I have to go to New York for and promote my music? Like it was different back in the day. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like they actually had to travel and sell CDs and do shit like that and actually promote their music in different, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. In different states to really catch traction to where I go, I do a CD tour and I'm just selling my album in seven different cities. I'm pulling up to this store That CD store And just dishing out albums But are you trying to make pop records That could go super far Or are you just more trying to make the best version Of what you do And just hoping that at some point That shit just resonates with a bigger audience Nah I'm gonna be honest I'm open to all music I do whatever But it gotta be like for me I really want Northern California to win So I'm gonna stick to R-Sound I'm not gonna drift off like nah I'm gonna be rebellious and I'm gonna stick to our sound and when it catch it's gonna catch at some point in time it's gonna catch it might not be this generation it might not be the next it might be the one after that but at some point in time California period it's gonna just catch traction it's gonna catch fire like LA New York did Chicago did Texas is doing right now it's gonna catch traction and when it do I just wanna be remembered as one of the pioneers like hey but I didn't get risk.

59:00He was one of them ones. Like he, you know, set the tone for this shit. We sampling his shit now and going crazy in New York right now. Right. Shit like that. Feels like you believe that you're like meant for like extremely great things in terms of music. You're still like pretty early in the journey. Like what's your vision of that? Like, do you feel like you're comfortable taking your time, building your career? Or are you more like in a hurry to get where you feel like you're going? No, I'm trying to step, step, step. I'm trying to go ahead and get it cracking. Like not for, like I said, not for only me, but like for Northern California, Southern California, like I'm ready to just get to work.

59:39You know what I'm saying? Make the West Coast great again. Like, you know, the West Coast was fire, but you know, they didn't really like. Go like global until like the East West shit. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like one common enemy will unite everybody. But then at the same time, we want to be beefing and at war. Like our generations is different. When we at war, we really at war. Like shit be happening for real. So like, I don't even want that. Like I just more so want everybody to win and eat. I want everybody to hear our music. And I feel like we just need to go ahead and set a dynamic with each other to where we networking with each other and doing the shit on business.

1:00:15you know what I'm saying politics always gonna be involved but like but Northern California more divided than ever right it's like Northern California honestly like it's super divided it doesn't seem hospitable to like the music scene because it's like you want to do a meet and greet you want to do a show whatever it's like all these concerns make a lot of people maybe not want to do those things it might get shut up but like me personally you can ask my homies like I'm the one that dropped my nuts like I don't give a fuck we finna do this meet and greet for sure they book me for anything i'm doing it and it's just gonna have to be whatever it's gonna be because at the end of the day bro we all gotta win like i'm like i want to see everybody win even my ops like i want to see everybody go crazy even if it's not just me because at some point in time when we 45 50 like nigga that shit gonna be oh it's gonna be like brother i ain't even yeah bro that shit was like 30 years ago we was bro i got 10 kids now.

1:01:14What the fuck is you talking about? Do you think if your op blows up musically that that's overall still a net positive for your career? Hell yeah. You wanna know why? You wanna know why? Why? Because I'm gonna keep making good music and he gonna keep having a rap about me because I'm gonna be on his ass. Like King Von made FBG Duck way bigger. Hell yeah. Of course. Of course. But then FBG Duck was in a back scene making fire-ass music. I know I slapped FBG Duck a lot. I slapped both sides a lot. So I watched, you know, the BDs go crazy and really get through the dough. And then I watched the GDs just kind of hang around and swing in a balance while they was really up there.

1:01:56You get what I'm saying? And I'm like, oh shit, one day this shit gonna catch traction and boom, FBG Duck came in and caught traction. Make that slide over. Hit. They in the dough. Nah, facts. Facts. Shit. We got into it there. Damn. Okay. How old were you during COVID? Because you apparently ran it up a lot. 22. During that era. I was 22. So you were just working a job and shit. Was that the first scamming type shit you got into? Hell nah. Before that, I was doing some other crazy little shit around, bro. With Safeway and shit. It was just some small shit. 100 here, 200, 300 there. Okay. But, like, EDD was crazy, though, for everybody.

1:02:45Everybody had money during EDD. That shit was epic. Right. So how did that actually work, though? You're just like, I mean, I don't know how much you would be able to go into it or if you would be worried about anything coming back from that. Hell nah, because I ain't really do nothing. Oh, okay. I ain't do shit. I was just collecting money. I mean, you said you had half a million at one point. Hell yeah, for sure. I had some chicken, for sure. I went through another attention ATM And you blew half a million? I blew that stupid ass shit On what? How did you do that? Chains, cars, clothes, guns Stupid shit I don't even got no more That's impressive honestly I was buying something new every day Like a new pair of underwear Some new shirts, new shoes Every day That shit was ridiculous That was crazy okay you said you feel like you're blackballed hell yeah what caused that nah I just feel like in Northern California like the Bay Area specifically I feel like people be like scared to fuck with me you know what I'm saying because there's so much controversy that's around my name but in reality like ain't nobody gonna do shit if you fuck with me niggas gonna do some little internet shit but ain't nobody gonna really do nothing like you know what I'm saying and I feel like that's what's also holding this shit back because it's like like i'm a dope artist in my opinion like and i feel like i could add a lot to like other artists like musically like i feel like we could bounce off each other but everybody be so stuck in the politics and the street shit to where they don't want to network or they'd be scared to network so you think in the industry jbo's just viewed as the good guy so therefore anybody he beefs with is viewed as like not he's just a tiktok superstar he's a tiktok star right you feel me like i'm not really like his street credibility that I don't really know about all that.

1:04:36That shit don't... I don't even really too much care. It's like the dynamic where we all look at Dirk and Vaughn and Chief Keef or whatever as they're the most successful ones, so they get to kind of play the hero role, and then everybody looks at the GDs from Chicago like they're the evil ones, because all the best artists are beefing with them. I'm going to keep it solid. J-Boy ain't blackball me. I don't think he can at this point. That shit, oh, you can't blackball me, bro. There's a hell of other politics. it's not that it's more so like in my region though like in my region like man bro that's crazy like i didn't got blackballed a lot i didn't have i didn't have real promoters engineers beat makers like all that shit didn't tell me like yeah bro if i with you bro we're gonna get mad i'm like what the they gonna do it's almost on some shit to wear in order for to work with me i gotta down there pull them under my protection like me and my niggas got you like you good you could work with me even a cameraman's pilot cameraman can't even shoot with cameramen because they be you know what I'm saying that's only in Northern California though the ones down south don't do that that's what I'm saying we only put with like one or two cameramen and the rest be on with weird shit but J-Bow's not blackballing you no he can't he's not blackballing he doesn't matter where we're from no he doesn't have no say so where we're from but because of who he's affiliated with and who they're affiliated with that's the reason why you feel blackball but we them niggas nah nah nah nah I'ma keep it I'ma keep it a band like I don't feel blackball from them in no way shape or form I feel I feel like the way my Before Duel even came along.

1:06:06Before, it was that. Like, when I made all effects and shit, I wasn't getting booked for shows and shit like that. Like, Dizzler wasn't even f***ing me like that. Like, you know? Like, I'm going to tell you like this, bro. Like, it was platforms that wouldn't post my music because it was too direct. But with post-date shit, I'm like, bro, this nigga's talking about all my dead niggas. Like, what am I supposed to do? Not respond? You feel me? Like, you can't give me the post, but you would give it to him, and he's talking about all my dead homies. But now Dizzler is posting you No, Dizzler posts me Very rare They still, bro Listen, Dizzler posts me on some shit like Oh yeah Like they'll post me on some shit like video verses What the f*** am I doing a video verses for Everybody on this Like what am I doing a video verses for In this video at 250 ,000 For what?

1:06:55I always scroll past that shit Exactly They're never going to give me an exclusive post I never got a birthday post or nothing like that ever so do you guys feel like this is biased birthday post politics is crazy they're biased especially when EPK started to gain their note of ride when they was f***ing me and Riz it was through NorCal it was through Dom me and Dom was f***ing with it that was my boy but now even Dom don't answer the phone like he just on his own you know I f*** with Don I f*** with Don But he don't answer my calls So it's like Feel me When I was just calling him Before I went on this run I'm like calling him like Hey bro I got some shit coming Like I got some content For you to post Post it It's good content It ain't even bad This is when I was like Okay I'm gonna just Take over the summer Like I ain't even finna Do no dissing Like I'm gonna just Take the summer over I was trying to give him that Like you know That traction And he wasn't answering He ain't answering DMs Nothing Hey one more thing About this though They like They fuck whoever They can get the most money out of Like I peeped that For sure If you pop in If you pop in and going crazy They gonna just post you all day You just gonna see them They only gonna post three people It's gonna be a nigga from Stockton A nigga from SAC And a nigga from Utah or some shit It's like you don't got nobody from San Francisco Oakland Richmond Vallejo Nothing Like you just reposting our shit all day That shit don't It wasn't doing anything for us It's just my thing with this shit is bro Like The diss songs I was told by bro directly like hey bro like the diss songs we can't post but like the regular shit we can so I'm like okay let me just lean back and just see how many diss songs y 'all post within these next few months every time niggas drop it was a diss song you feel me it's just not as direct as mine like I'm gonna give a name this episode is supported by FX's The Shards a seductive drama from executive producer Ryan Murphy Set in 1980s Los Angeles, the series follows a group of glamorous, deeply entangled high school seniors drawn into a life of wealth, beauty, parties, and excess.

1:09:07At its center is Brett, whose reality begins to unravel when the arrival of a new student coincides with a series of mysterious murders. FX's The Shards premieres August 5th on FX and Hulu. That's how I feel. See, that's the weird thing. even in the past I've thought about doing like cyphers with LA artists and shit and it's weird because it's like are they all just gonna diss the fuck out of each other's gangs like it would be so tricky putting together people who could even get along in the first place and then what are you gonna tell them you gonna tell them like yo no dissing but then all the subliminal shit I'm not even gonna catch it and then meanwhile like if they say a name sure we'll get it but like I don't know it's just like it's hard to police that shit shit I ain't never got invited to a Disney cypher ever So it's like How would you know I've never gotten invited to a Disney Resolve And on some real shit In my opinion I rap better than all them niggas On that whole panel If I really just sit down And just doctor some shit up I rap better than all of them That's my opinion though I don't think none of them can On no panel they ever had I'm gonna keep it solid I'm gonna keep it solid That's just me personally can't none of them f***ing me, especially going back and forth.

1:10:21Fizzler, we need the response, man. We need to know. What's going on? We're not beefing with Fizzler. We're just telling y 'all about yourself. I love Fizzler. They did a lot for me early on. I f***ed with Fizzler. They posted my shit for free a couple times. For sure. They did that. But it was like them little posts that didn't matter. But they're the reason why the Bay Area is kind of stagnant with a lot of their rappers. Yeah. Why are you feeling like that? Because they're scared to promote. You know what it is. It's not enough black people working in Fizzler. No, it's not. It's not. Yeah, that too.

1:10:49It's not because they don't know who to No, they know No, they know Bro, the nigga I was talking to Is black, they know exactly who to They just afraid to Push the politics Why? I don't know, they feel like it's not Marketable, but bro, that's the new Northern California, it's political Now, the thiz Hyphenation, it's not over with bro But that is like We are in like the last of a generation with that shit like that's you know coming to an end this shit is political now you feel me it's controversial now that's crazy it's like uh it's hard for the scene to even like promote itself once you get to that point where there's so much of that bullshit going on it's just like how could you possibly even like the idea of like oh let's do a big no jumper concert without like 20 top la artists perform yeah that's gonna be fun there's gonna be like so many problems with that shit like it's gonna be so difficult and up there same exact shit like it's just yeah and really on some real shit it's not even that difficult though it's really not that hard like they down here in southern la they go off like colors and like real gang politics like shit that's been going on since the 60s in the 70s and shit like shit like that they standing on shit from like 50 60 years ago like there a lot of this shit is new like it's a lot of new clicks new game like all that shit is kind of new like it's old shit still going on from way back but it's a lot of new shit and a lot of shit can be solved with a conversation a lot of people just be too deep into their pride and want to poke their chest out too much to where they can't have a conversation with another man and squash that shit y 'all ain't never killed none of us we ain't never killed none of y 'all let's shut the f*** up and get this money they ain't on that feel me niggas don't know how to communicate that's all it is people want ops people want beef now it's like something to rap about they know it's some lore but that shit be like when you really gotta stand on it you know when it's really time to stand on it niggas break every time whether it's death or whether it's jail niggas be like bros got so many videos of niggas on the phone oh bros not like that next day nigga on instagram bros come on bros niggas didn't diss me after we didn't have full blown conversations like bros I ain't even on that like bros you feel me it's good like bro when we get up with bro we just gonna get up with bro but y 'all out of it like we cool like it's good and then diss me or diss my whole set and I'm like what the what was that for like it'd be weird so you know I mean I can't call it right now but I think with Northern California direction we going in I think if we just stick together like one time a year of hardcore working and biting down we'd take a lot of shit over yeah i heard you saying that but like that's your big goal is to unite the bay area and i was just like damn that's actually uh it's kind of like a lofty goal for a young person most young people don't really have that kind of vision shit i might die doing it but it's like shit if that's my legacy that's what it is even we all got to go one day it's the only thing we promise after birth so it's like shit like you know as a man like you know your legacy is important because it's the only thing people go remember like remember you for after you check like after you die like it's it's over with what they gonna remember you for you know i'm saying your legacy so you got to make a staple in this game and so that's my staple that's what i want my staple to be like you know riz really did something with this shit and made it into something now we all having two three hundred thousand we got filmy sold out shows bro a millionaire this nigga a millionaire this nigga a millionaire i just bought a ferrari i just but nigga riz was the one that really push the hard line for it.

1:14:40You feel me? Respect. Nah, for real. Jaleese, I know you got all the juicy, gossipy drama questions. I want to hear what Jaleese got to say. Y 'all want to hear what I got to say? Say some f***ed up shit. Don't say no f***ed up shit. I'm drunk. Okay, look. This is what we really want to understand in regards to the politics in Northern California. Yeah. So do you feel like, I just want to ask this question before I get into the more sinister questions. Holy shit. Sinister. Sinister is crazy. So with Swamp Stories, so with Swamp Stories, I feel like he added a lot of momentum to your career. Hell yeah.

1:15:21Because without Swamp Stories, I feel like a lot of people wouldn't have been engaged. Hell yeah. Now recently, West Coast Gang Wars would cover you. Yep. And you would be on Nightingale. Yep. You and Sleaze, actually. Hell yeah. Why are you going there? I think it was Sleaze, huh? It was you. All right, so look, we're going to shut down. What brought you to Nightingale, though? What brought me to Nightingale? Oh, shit. Like, you know, people just think certain shit is, like, impossible. Or, like, we won't do it. Like, no, like, on some street shit. Like, you know, we will. We go anywhere. We travel anywhere.

1:15:50It don't matter. Did you receive any phone calls after that? Shit. I received hella phone calls after that. Did you receive any phone calls from EBK? Man. Don't lie. You're under those. No jump or others. They tapped in. They had to tap in. You ain't got no choice. I mean, it's like, you're not going to do that shit. in my hood. You're not going to come to the five and do that. Ever. Well, EBK Baby Max went ahead and he did an interview on a live stream. Yeah. And he said that he's not black hugging right now. And he's not on that. And if he was on that, you'd be on a t-shirt. So he don't feel like you a threat.

1:16:27A bedazzled t-shirt. A t-shirt is crazy. That's what EBK Baby Max said. I don't know. I don't know. He said, if I was on that, I'd be on a t-shirt. All right, look, I'm going to just put it to you like this. I am also not block hugging right now. He told niggas. Bro, he said he was about to go do that. But listen, I told niggas that I was going to go to they hood and shoot a video. I told them, right? Let me tell you something, right? Let me tell you this. Many have tried. Many have failed. You feel me? I done got shot. I done been stabbed. I was a young nigga. Like I done been through Hella shit It's not It's not nothing You feel me I'm still alive It's a lot of niggas here That can't say that So You Like niggas talking about Putting niggas on the T Yeah bro You got a lot of niggas Putting niggas on the T You shouldn't even be Worried about me But If I wasn't a threat Then you wouldn't even Say my name in a song In the first place Little bro Little bro You wouldn't say Nothing about me If I wouldn't know What you say my name for I ain't never said Shit about baby max Ever Niggas You said you wouldn't know that No, no, no.

1:17:36But what I'm saying is you said my name. You made a whole song called Five or Die K. For what? What did you get out of that? You got a few hundred thousand views and you got dissed right back and now you can't respond because you're not going to come to my hood and do nothing. But his diss was pretty like a decent. It was a decent diss. That shit was trash. Him or Turtle came with me. No. I think Turtle has potential. Turtle got potential but we ain't living off the way. They can't rap better than Rizzi though. Wait, wait, wait. Wasn't Turtle helping a boy or something like that? You seen it? Oh.

1:18:04Bro. Come on, bro. We not even doing that. Like, bro, like, I don't even take them. You can play with as many guns as you want. You can be as gangsta as you want. We gonna look at you how we look at certain niggas from our city. You just a zesty gangster. Like, you're not. You feel me? So, Toto is a gangster. A zesty gangster. That nigga's a kid, bro. But how do y 'all know what type of work Toto done put in if y 'all don't really know nothing about stocking? No, I don't really give a fuck about... No, listen, we know because niggas talk and we know people from Stockton. It's not like we don't know nothing.

1:18:37Ask where's how old he is. He's 27. You think he's worried about a nigga that's 15, 16? He's a f***ing kid. Please, how old are you? I'm 24. They don't even understand the art of manipulation yet. Them niggas still running in the brick walls with the law. When they got bans, you're supposed to be up doing your thing, moving niggas out the way. You playing with money and don't even know what to do with it. This is why I don't even take them serious. Give me$500 ,000. A lot of the people, you know, I'd be up right now. So do you feel like EBK Baby Max is kind of like taking on the responsibility of dissing you?

1:19:11You know what? And that's the stuff that he's doing that because he can't out rap me. Send Lebo. Because he can't f*** me either. That's why he didn't say nothing. But EBK Lebo just recently dropped a diss track or a music video. I'm sorry. Tear it off, Greasy. And that shit was trash. It was trash. Did you hear it? No, but it was trash. I already heard it. Listen, let me tell you. The song that he made with Fat Ass I already heard that That's why I made All Facts Part 3 I made All Facts Part 3 in regards to that Now listen to that first And then listen to All Facts Part 3 And you'll understand why I made it So how do you feel about Teradon, Grazy And EBK Lebo becoming like a duo They could be buddies I don't give a f*** I never cared This is my thing I never cared until niggas came Into the city like this we in Sunny Deal.

1:20:01Nigga, we thugging. Feel me? Cool. That's cool. Y 'all thugging with y 'all partners. Great. Right? But why are you getting on the phone or getting on social media saying you don't f*** with us because you f*** with them? You could have just said, you could have just said, I f*** with them. And I would have been like, okay, cool. But you and EBK J-Bro were still in communication. Correct? Before the EBK, Lee Bo and Teradol Greasy duo. Bro. You and EBK Jebo were a thing. She did her homework. I did my homework. We was cool. We was solid. And it wasn't for no five months. It was from 2023, nigga to 2025.

1:20:37We didn't know it was a problem until that live video. When we had that live video. Go watch it. We was confused. And Lebo. Real, she was like, what's up with Lebo? Mind you, even me and Juvie. Like, Juvie, I don't know how in tune with them niggas. I don't know. Juvie be doing his own thing. But even me and Juvie, like, we got messages like, Brother let's go ahead and knock this out He had my number, I had his number We sending each other open verses We playing with this music shit This is long before A Lebo and Leek You get what I'm saying? So y 'all building y 'all relationship in jail I'm building my relationship out here J-Bo goes to jail But before he goes to jail he's doing a whole lot of dick sucking So I'm thinking like we cool I'm like alright we cool, feel me?

1:21:20I never text that nigga, he texts me I didn't mention him, he mentioned me I didn't even know he existed I'm gonna keep it a band I didn't even know Who the f*** he was Until he said my name Oh no jumper I swear I never knew who he was I don't even listen to Northern California rappers I listen to like Youngboy Like Nah I put him on To all that type of shit He put me on to that shit I wasn't listening to them niggas I don't care about their music But it's like You feel me When he mentioned me I'm like okay bro F*** with me We gonna lock in I never DM'd him Never sent nothing to him He hit me Like bro we gotta tap We gotta lock in Brother tap in Send your number I sent my number now we locked in we talking we chopping it up and it's even more in depth than that but it's like you feel me bro no down bad for that like i ain't really tripping it's not a big thing all y 'all have to do was say brother we put these niggas over here but we don't got no issues with y 'all you feel me and i would have been like cool i respect that y 'all chose y 'all side but y 'all not entering our politics so if i see y 'all out it's like yeah brother we good and keep it pushing you feel me but them niggas wanna be so tough tough badass and shoot em up bang bang they didn't jump into some shit and I was just like yeah you in it once you in Bay Area politics not Stockton Bay Area politics you in it and shit that shit come from anywhere it come from anywhere this is how nobody's ever gonna get along cause all these little mini fractures cause niggas feel like they owe loyalty to niggas they don't even know you don't owe me no loyalty so I wasn't mad.

1:22:52I was on some shit like why is you letting your niggas diss us when you was just in my DMs talking about, bro, let's do a feature. You feel me? Let's do this. Let's get this song done. Look. They like this. They like this. Let Adam read it. Don't read that loud, Adam. Look. Like shit like that, niggas. You feel me? Bro, we finna... Them essays. Them essays. Listen. Now niggas blocked. Now niggas blocked. You can still view the DMs But you're blocked Listen though We cool We on program with each other All you had to do was Keep it pushing I wasn't really tripping off you I didn't care You could do music with them Go crazy, do your thing You telling me We just did this song We did Shots Fire That shit was weak as fuck But I'm like alright, come on Let's go ahead and push it He like bro shoot it while I'm down You gonna go up nigga when I touch down We gonna come new feel me Go ahead nigga do the song you know what I'm talking about With Pig go ahead and shoot the video On Double Rock nigga Pig and all the young Niggas gonna pop out I'm gonna have them pull up And y 'all gonna do the video on the rock I'm like no Slee's like brother go ahead and knock that shit out I'm like No I wanna wait till a nigga come home To see what he really on Cause I already peep Lebo have been posting Grease And doing you feel what I'm saying You think he was trying to set you up?

1:24:17No, I didn't think he was trying to set me up. And I can't really tell you why, but I don't think that was the case. I know that wasn't the case. And Lil' Bro was like, oh, bro, that nigga, you know he's slime. And I'm like, no, nigga, he ain't slime. And that nigga ain't that slime. Cut it out. Cut it out, bro. I'm a real, I'm BDA. You feel me? Like, I'm B's. Like, he ain't that slime. That nigga just doing shit. You feel me? He was just f***ing with me first. And then what it really is He's just not a leader So he can't really tell his niggas what to do You get what I'm saying Like if me and Sleaze If he f***ing with this side and I'm f***ing with that side It's like alright brother you f***ing with them I'm f***ing with them But nigga between me and you We're gonna keep that shit cordial We're never gonna cross game with each other We're never gonna cross game with them You feel what I'm saying We're gonna be cordial Nigga we five Y 'all whatever Y 'all whatever But this is my brother And I'm his brother And we f***ing with both sides We got so much respect You can make niggas be cool with each other I could come over there and fuck with them with you and you could come over here and fuck with these niggas with me.

1:25:20Respect. And that's that. But with J-Bo, you guys pushed the five. Yeah. Now, there's a five from their city. Yeah, for sure. You guys are highly affiliated with him. Nah, I wouldn't even say highly affiliated. But we fuck with the five. We fuck with the five. What you talking about? So do you guys feel like maybe J-Bo, maybe somebody was in his ear as if maybe you guys were trying to bagdough him just in regards to your guys' affiliation with who he is? We didn't know that. We don't have no affiliation. We didn't even know there was no problem. Reels thought it was cool this whole entire time.

1:25:51I'm going to keep it a thousand. So you guys didn't know that the townhomes was fucking with EBK? We don't know that. We don't know nobody in Stockton. We knew that shit way later down the line, bro. We never cared. I'm going to keep it a thousand. Like we was, like I told bro, like I'm like, whatever you niggas got going on, we stand out of that shit. You feel what I'm saying? But if you really on some stepper shit, then, you know, do your shit. but that ain't got nothing to do with us we not from Stockton so why are we entering y 'all politics why are we coming in acting like we f***ing niggas that we don't even know we don't know how they move we ain't never been to school we don't know they first or last we don't know nothing why are we entering to that and he like brother I respect that brother you feel me you already know how that nigga talk he like this on the phone brother I ain't gonna lie brother I respect that brother I f*** with my fives brother for sure like feel me But do y 'all just feel like deep down inside He probably was like I don't really know what they on Like do you ever feel like that Bro I ain't even gonna say too much We didn't have real conversations Like them real conversations He knew exactly what we was on And the whole thing about it is He just chose That it's like I said It wasn't a problem he knew exactly What our movement was Well Sleaze is your right hand man how do he feel about this situation Sleaze like fuck them niggas at the end of the day me and Riz I'm on whatever my brother on so you feel me at the end of the day I thought it was cool the whole time I jumped on live I sent Riz the live video niggas on live they add me and we politicking with ugly niggas we ain't got nothing to do with them we really actually just talking they come in there and Riz like yo we saw my EBK niggas they on some shit we on f*** with you niggas I'm like, oh, what you mean?

1:27:41So from then on, I was on some shit. You feel me? I was like really like caught by surprise for real. Because it's like you niggas from an hour and a half away. So if anything, I would assume you guys would probably just with other niggas we don't with. And keep it cordial with everybody. Like just we cordial around a board. But that's what it is. You know what it is? Is niggas don't know how to be the program. You feel me? They are the program, but they don't know how to be the program. They don't know how to say, nah, nigga, we on boss shit. We above all this beef shit. You feel what I'm saying?

1:28:11They stooped down to some niggas that's broke level. Like they stooped down to that level. Like, oh, brother, we got to choose a side and we got to beef with y 'all. And in reality, you niggas was hotter than me and him combined. Y 'all supposed to be on some shit like, look, brother, we're going to try to make this shit one. We're going to try to build Northern California back up. Y 'all don't got to be cool, but I'm going to do a feature with you. I'm going to do a feature with you. I'm going to do a feature with them over there. and we're going to go crazy and make this shit one again. But they don't have that mindset.

1:28:41They just so happen to run across fame. And that's why it's like this shit is the way it is. Because through TikTok, like just NorCal period, any that run across fame can have it. It's just open season. So that's why I'm on some shit like, go ahead, let me take this over so we can make this shit great again, please. Just let me have it. Give it to me, bro. These niggas is stupid. So you were hyped when he got arrested? Hell no. I was sick. I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna keep it up. Man, when he got arrested, I was sick. Because you got to think his whole last bit, we was chopping it up when he turned himself in.

1:29:15Oh, so you didn't even know until, okay, right, right, right. Come on. He got arrested. I'm like, this nigga's a slap. What are you doing? And what is your niggas around you doing? What are y 'all doing? Like, bro, you supposed to be locked in, getting to it, going crazy. This shit's supposed to be a thing. This shit's not even fun no more. You're in jail. Who's going to be the FYB J. Maine of Northern California and come through and push peace? Sleaze. You don't seem ready for it. People really don't know me. This the whoop man. I push peace. Look y 'all got my phone. I push peace. Me and Rios are just talking about we're about to go pass our food to the homeless while we're out here.

1:29:56Y 'all finna go to Skate Row? It's easy to be on good terms with the bums. Yeah, they cool. It's hilarious. We don't got no ops. We really don't. We the most hated niggas. I don't even take none of these niggas serious. Exactly, bro. You got niggas beefing from an hour and a half away. For what? But look, though, Adam, why would everybody not like us? Because we're a threat. Musically. Talent-wise. We having fun with this shit. Hey, Adam, talent-wise. Talent-wise. No, the music is really, really good. I agree. I appreciate it. I appreciate that. No, it's definitely really good, which is kind of why it's crazy that he just, like, accidentally gave you this big ass cosign and then became your op.

1:30:37But you're saying that it was his choice. So now the hype on the streets was, oh, my brother slime, like he trying to backdo like he be trying to backdo niggas like, okay. So from your opinion, like you gave a nigga a big ass cosign on, that was your first no jumper interview. And it's not like he said 10 names. He said the only artist that I listened to from out there is this person. That's like a, that's a kind extraordinary coach. Even though he wasn't really that big at that point. That was pretty early for him. That was early. But even when he caught traction. Oh my god. You want me to show you how many live videos?

1:31:11I mean people go back to the old interviews. No we go back to all the lives. He was just playing my... Bro. He was playing the song that we made on live rapping it. The only reason I don't be on no petty shit posting clips of niggas dick sucking is because I'm just like... This episode is supported by FX's The Shards, a seductive drama from executive producer Ryan Murphy. Set in 1980s Los Angeles, the series follows a group of glamorous, deeply entangled high school seniors drawn into a life of wealth, beauty, parties, and excess. At its center is Brett, whose reality begins to unravel when the arrival of a new student coincides with a series of mysterious murders.

1:31:53FX's The Shards premieres August 5th on FX and Hulu. I don't really care. Me, in my heart, like in my persona, like I just feel like I'm that nigga anyway. So like you doing that don't surprise me. It just be like, yeah, okay, you f*** me, cool. You're not, you're just one of many. Like that's how I feel. Yeah, I mean, he, regardless of how you guys feel about each other, like he is a serious rapper. Like he takes rapping seriously. He gets it, he's paying attention. He understands structurally like how to make a good song and shit. And when I first started listening to your shit, I'm like, ah, okay.

1:32:27I totally get why he would be a fan of this. Yeah, like he... Nah, he's smart. He's not stupid. He put out a lot of content. He's smart the way he structure his shit. Hey, yo, man. I don't know if y 'all... Why y 'all they got Steve's drugs? Frisco, Frisco, 3-by-freezy. Man, you a choc. Yeah, that's that shit. Run it back. Man, show Jaleese, man. Let her play. Look at him.

1:32:58Oh, that's the clip. The interview clip. That nigga said, besides me, I've been off that. Besides you and your man. I don't know if y 'all probably don't know. I've been off that dream. That's crazy.

1:33:12What made me so mad, though, is niggas act like I've been living off that shit. Like, his cosign. I never gave a fuck. He was early on the Asali wave. I never gave a fuck. Due to mathematics, when he did that, when he gave me that cosign, I was already at 400 ,000. I was already co-signed myself. I didn't need no co-sign from nobody. I didn't care. I was just like, okay, little artist from the, he going crazy for show. At this time, Slobby was still alive. Me and Slobby got the same. Slobby passed away. At that interview, Slobby had already passed away. He had already passed away? Yeah, he passed away in 2022.

1:33:48I fucked with Slobby and him got the same birthday. June 2nd. Because I remember J-Bo giving me a disappointed look when I didn't realize that the cross on his face was because of Slobby. Yeah. Because I was being a fake fan. That was like before I actually started listening to him a lot. Yeah. And that's not a fake fan. It's like with him. I didn't hear about him until April. Yeah. I think April and May. Swamp Stories. You're a sleuth. This is your beat. Swamp hella funny. I know. Swamp hella funny. But they said they were the real EBK and I was like who are these? But we is though. We beef with every city in the Bay Area.

1:34:21It's not one city that we don't beef with in the Bay Area. We beef with somebody from every city in the Bay Area. Allegedly though Like we just be on bullshit So it be like Yeah who really is The real EBK You beef with Every set from your city Cool It would be Like supposedly We beef with every city In the Bay Area Supposedly Outside the Bay Outside the What Nigga Damn Who y 'all funk with In Sacramento I'm not saying I'm saying allegedly Me He said he wanted to be Your ghost writer For your Mozzie diss Yeah I know I need that though Hell nah Were you serious You're not gonna help With this Mozzie Mozzie Mozzie hot Mazzy was just with EBK Pig I thought it was good He was just with EBK Pig and Bloodhound Q50 Yeah and nothing happened He was with Pig

1:35:09I'ma tell you we was never supposed to fall out over 10 % Who exposed that though? That was a banger though I ain't gonna lie That's the hit We were never supposed to fall out over 10 % What's that mean? You never heard that song? But what's that mean exactly? No, I just, I took that from the Mazi song. Oh, okay. He was going crazy. He fell out with you over 10%. That's what I tell my brother. We was never supposed to fall over 10%. Okay. We be fighting all the time. We ain't gonna never fall out though. We ain't gonna never fall out, but we be fighting for show. Right. We get it up. We just had a maniac's argument.

1:35:43Really? About what? Hell yeah. Because I'll be able to keep this thing on point. Yeah, Robbie Bullshit. So he's more serious business-wise and you're just saying whatever? I'm not going to say more serious business-wise. I'm going to say like, he the one that keep me from doing the crash shit that I used to be on. I used to be a crash. Okay. But I just never like, you know. It's a fine line because your fans kind of want to see you crash out from time to time, right? Yeah. I'm not going to let that happen. You feel me? Yeah, but it's like. You got to understand what's going on. My brother just lost his mind.

1:36:08Yeah, for sure. You feel me? So you got to think out. Niggas crashing the phone all day. Yeah. Niggas like, well, Riz, get off ankle. He going. And I'm just like, brother, you feel me? Just focus on the rap because at the end of the day. Success is the best revenge. It is. Everybody else that brought his name up has never been right here. Good credit to the block, man. Success is the best revenge. Success, Bs. Shout out to the block, man. Double Bs. That's a big block. Button boys. Button land. But you know that the Bs, the Files, all that shit. That's just a movement. Shout out my nigga Money B.

1:36:46For sure We'll start making Buttonland merch Yeah Yeah Money B That's big button That's my nigga From the town man My nigga Money B From the nice seas That's big button That's the real button boy I gotta fuck with Money B T9, J.O Oh they hate that They hate that Damn Them the homies though We be thugging with them For sure So why are you guys Beefing with Samoans That's some bold shit Oh my god We're not beefing with Samoans I ain't never heard of that Look Adam Let me break it down to you In San Francisco We got projects We used to live right next door To Samoans Yeah for sure It's not no beef with the Samoans, bro.

1:37:17It's just Samoans and black people are separated. I mean, Swamp Story is making it like you and the tear it off people are at war. Yeah. I'm going to keep it solid. I'm going to keep it solid. Them niggas at war with they self. They ain't at war with us. For real? Shit, we down here? They up there? I don't know what's going on. They at war with they self. So, you feel me? We just be making music. We just trying to lock in, make this music. But when it comes to them, like, you know, I'm on some real shit, bro. we just it's a segregation thing to a degree you get what I'm saying because what a lot of people don't know is like when they wore Warren that shit was taking place in like the 80s and shit and like the feuds that we did have which was very small like the feuds that we did have was kind of like you feel me yeah this shit might be more of a race thing than it is like a gang thing you get what I'm saying it's more of a race thing in my opinion especially now Spark that up Adam So Adam sets up A no jumper cipher I'm just gonna hold off For like Northern California Right Say if Adam sets up A no jumper cipher For Northern California Everybody can come perform Tear it off Can come down here Yeah It's good No but we not gonna Coexist in the same room though Cause it'd be serious like that But we not gonna coexist In the same room Because like you know We might have words And words could turn into Slaps And then slaps Could turn into hugs But we ain't even Trying to do all that shit We on some shit like We'd rather not even Take it there We on some shit like just when they go, we come.

1:38:43When they come, we go. You know what I'm saying? Time slot. I'm going to pull up with Lil Brazy. Out of respect. Out of respect for... Lil Brazy going to make sure nothing happens. Man, Lil Brazy be getting pushed up on. You talking about threes? Lil White, man. That was back in the test. Pull Lil Threes up, for sure. Out of respect for threes, we ain't going to do nothing. Out of respect for threes, out of respect for Adam, Jalise, and the no jumper team, we going to keep this shit real cordial and we going Get this money. Because it's like this, bro. Everybody getting money except us. So you're trying to do a song with Lil Brazy to get the money?

1:39:15Yeah. All right. Hell yeah. Me and Brazy do a song? That's going to fuck me. Man, Reza turned Lil Brazy up. All that little turning down fans and all that. I ain't going to go turn it down fans. Hell nah. You got to fight. You got to do something. You think Lil Brazy would take a charge for you? Take a charge for me? Yeah. She ain't going to have no choice. I'm a felon now. Lil Brazy, hold this. Look, you're going to go to the halls for a month and I'll see you in 30 days. Good. I got you, little brother. Don't even trip. You're going to have a program. He's going to lose all that weight. He's going to get it.

1:39:48I just keep thinking about how there's going to be an 18-year-old version of him one day and it's going to be a totally different thing. Yeah, he's going to turn into a little punk. He's going to be a grown-up one day. It's going to be weird. I think he's going to flip the script. He's going to tie his face up. start coloring his hair orange, red, yellow that's one angle he could go or he could just be a real demon I don't think Lil Brazy ever gonna be a demon because I don't think he ever gonna have the opportunity to be a demon shit I don't know where you from? Ogden, Utah fuck out of here I said on this podcast that I've been to Ogden, Utah and that it ain't on shit and then I got corrected by a lot of people in the comments being like bro it actually really do go on out there and I'm like, all right, even though I've been there, I can't act like I know what the worst crimes and shit that go on there are.

1:40:39But I'm going to keep it a band, though. Like, the threes chain that he got, if he was out here, that would have been chalked. We would have been on the beat. All the videos we're seeing, how he going out, we would have, man. On the homies, I love Lil Brazy because he's so funny because he be running every time somebody pushes up. Go. But listen, though, that threes chain would have been took. We would have been got that on the homies. Whenever he gets into one of those situations, there's a reminder that he hasn't gone through puberty yet because he'll be like, hey man, come on. It's like, oh shit, that voice ain't pop good.

1:41:10Nah, he gonna get there though and you know what? I would love to see him continue to elevate because Utah is a forgotten scene. Young boy's trying to make it popular. That shit is a forgotten scene. Who rapping out of Utah? People love a comeback story so if he could turn into someone who's not getting punked out every two weeks, that'd be hard. So let him get punked out because you know the best part about it is he can always flip the script and start doing techno music and go crazy.

1:41:36He's going to be like, yo, Coachella, book me. I did no jumper in 2025. I was a blood. I was a blood. Then I switched to techno music and made 20 M's off this shit. That's the goal. Because at the end of the day, you want to have generational wealth. Bro, if he switches his life and stops worshiping J-Bo and starts worshiping Skrillex or whatever, that's going to be amazing. He could do it. He could do it. I think it's just going to take some time and mental growth. Adam, get a little brazy. Tapping me on the ribs. We're going to turn him up. Tapping me on the ribs, for sure. He's going to be five, bro.

1:42:06All that three shit. All that three shit. We're going to cut that off. He's going to be throwing fives. For sure. I'm sure he's down. He ain't going to be on program, though. Like, you feel me? He seems impressionable. Like, I would have had J-Bone on program. Little bro, we ain't doing that clown ass shit. What the fuck is you traveling across state lines with all this? We ain't got, we got other niggas for that, bro. Like, I would have had him on program, but niggas ain't here. They just want to crash, so go crash. we're going to get this money. We're going to stay free and stay alive. Let's go crash.

1:42:32No. I'm down to crash. Let's crash. Jaleese, thank you. You're welcome, Adam. Dream live, Rizzy. Appreciate you, brother. Epic interview, honestly. This is going to be very good for you. They're going to see this. They're going to be like, damn, I'll fuck with him. I hope so. They might. They might not. Nah, I think they're going to like what you were putting down. They might crash. They might crash. Little Brazy for sure is going to be coming. Little Brazy going to crash. Hell yeah. I f***ing Brazy though. Brazy cool. We're going to take little Brazy to go spin. I'm telling you. No. Taking Brazy to go spin is crazy.

1:43:03We're going to take a little bit to go spin. I ain't finna do no 100 years. Tell him to jump out or scratch off on him. I ain't finna do 100 years for you. He's already been spinning so much. But, you know. He threes. He's all spinned out. I ain't here. He been spinning. All right. Appreciate you guys. Dreamline Brazy. Jalees. No Jumper. Coolest podcast. Like, comment, subscribe. Yes, sir. Shout out to everything 420. It's like the Amazon for everything that you need to get lifted. Whatever your vibe is, their app makes it super easy for you to shop for your next sesh. Shipping is fast. The packaging is super low key and they're always running deals.

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