Hazel E on Dating Blueface, Their Dramatic Break Up, Why She Likes YNs & More

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1:20Like, I went nuts. We had a pony. Yeah. Well, I was in Houston, so that was different. You could paint the pony. Well, paint a pony. The kids are into it. I bet they were. You slather paint on the pony. A lavender pony? All the different colors. Anyway, No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today we're tapped in. We got Hazel E on the podcast. How are you feeling? I'm just popping. I'm feeling good. Feeling blessed. Yeah. I mean, I met you a couple weeks ago. And I think it's fair to say that you were in love at the time. I wouldn't go as far as in love, but in a lot of like. You were touching on this man and vice versa.

2:00You were in the throat. We were into it. We were into each other. I thought we were. Yeah, no. Okay, so where did that come from? I'm just so confused about how this even flared up. Right. Because we haven't even talked. He literally did his thing online, talked trash. But I think I was matching his energy because he was doing a bunch of 20V1s ones yeah and then this whole like repertoire and uh you know collection of animals and species and i didn't know like at that moment when you saw us that it was like gonna be like a i'm one in his collection okay i wasn't in his i was his top two draft pick top three hazel makes the top three like when do we get to a draft like i never agreed to be a part of a conglomerate of other females but so what was that first moment like when you saw each other in the club did he just grab hold of you and you were just that was it when we first linked yeah oh we were at um the league but meme house was like a basket celebrity basketball thing oh okay and then yeah we we walked in and he was there and it was like oh my god i just text you i can't believe you're out of jail like we hadn't seen each other since 2023 right and then um he's like take my number i got a new number i was like okay bet then he hit me and he's like where you at i was like i'm at almighty jay's uh single release party right around the corner meme house doing it he's like i'm supposed supposed to go to that too oh yeah i know i remember yeah and then he pulled up on me and then uh you know i was like all right let's get bottles and then we were standing there talking he's all in my ear he's like you want to go viral and i was like okay so i told shirley i was like yeah get the cameras let's turn this bitch up you know so and then it was just like a vibe wow and then he hit me to be in his video like the next day and we shot the video two days after that okay and then so did you guys have sex the first night you met no no no was there not even Not until after the video.

3:49Okay. After the video. The video got you in the mood? Running around the house. It made, you know what? It kind of had a sexy vibe. You were like bent over on the bed next time and stuff. I was kind of feeling you watching. It was very intimate. I'm getting hot. It was very, very intimate. You know, I know what you guys are about to set up, but I guess it's not working no more. But yeah, it was intimate. It was sweet. And then after the video, and he paid me, and we did the business. He's like, I like to take you on a real date. Oh, okay. So you're fully kind of involved romantically, and still you're like, nah, if I'm going to do this video, I need to get paid.

4:27I didn't even have to tell him. I just told him what I needed, and he said, I got it. Oh, really? Yeah. He said, hair, makeup, glam, babysitter, knit, whatever it is you need, I got it. It costs a lot to be a bad bitch. We forget about this. I mean, you know, I'm not like the basics cooking, you know, Thanksgiving, you know, dinner and Tim's in the kitchen. But, you know. Yeah. My whole life, I like never really paid. I never even considered for a second paying for hair, makeup, babysitter, et cetera. But then you really start kicking it with girls who got shit going on. It does kind of seem like a fair trade off.

4:57It does. As much as I don't want to ever do that. Yeah. I mean, I just feel like a high valued woman. Not to say like on some escort shit, but our time is valuable. Like I do come with responsibilities. For me to show up and be hazily today, I got to get my wig put on. I got to get my face beat. I got to make sure my daughter's set and taken care of. I got to get here. So it's like, you know, I just feel as a high value woman, my time and my presence is valuable. And I feel like any man that is interested in me should be willing to. But you don't think, do you think that that is like the average woman kind of having that escort mentality seep into their brain of like, Like if I'm going to do anything, then I need to be compensated for my time.

5:40I feel like girls watch TikTok. They see these escort chicks and they sort of like allow that logic. They listen to the city girls. Yeah. They let that shit seep into their brain. Yeah, I'd be with the city girls. They weren't, you know, a girl coding. I graduated with my bachelor's degree in mass communication. TV broadcasting was like the top publicist in LA. You're saying that the city girls could never graduate college? No, they didn't. And I definitely told them that for sure. It was a huge beef. Yeah, it was me and Karisha. There's a diss track. Oh, wow. Little Yachty. Oh, I didn't know that.

6:09Me birthing. Oh, okay. City Girls is on there. Because they took my whole, like, acting up was my record I did on Love & Hip Hop season four. Oh, shit. They took the Girl Code name to the album. I own Girl Code Inc. I incorporated 2014. Really? So, yeah, there is the business side of me. You know what I'm saying? So, that escort mentality, I know where you were going with that. And it's important because, like, my book was in colleges for freshman college girls. It got put into actual curriculum. him so it was to teach women about the girl code and keeping ethics and morals right so even if i have an escort if you say that's the escort mentality it's just for me it's a business mindset i'm not saying he had to pay to hit right because he didn't have to pay to hit but he wanted me to do a job that he's going to make money on right because you're in that video for life i'm in the video five he wants to delete everything of me but he can't delete the video i dare him to i want him to put it back up and wait it's still up right it's still up but people were saying because I was like, you know, I helped make your video number one.

7:02Even on the video set, he was like, I'm so glad I picked you. Like, I made the right decision. Like, he knew. He knew what my viral capabilities are, too. Like, I've been doing this. I started the viral shit. Like, come on. We built Shade Room. Like, me, Cat Williams, Love and Hip Hop Season 1. We had the internet on smash. So, where they're at in this space, it's like, yeah, if you're going to do that, you put me in the video. So, of course, I helped to go number one. So, it's like the highest ranking engagements you have on your page. But so did you think twice at all about some of the lyrics in the sense of like comparing women to dogs?

7:34I know that that's been very, very viral and very funny. But I can imagine that when you're in the middle of this love affair, maybe it seems all good. But then maybe in the back of your mind, you're also thinking like, hey, this is maybe not how I want to be presented, especially as a woman who's been in the game for a while. You know, he deals with a lot of chicks or realistically pretty ratchet. Yeah, he does. oh sorry yeah um um okay so about the dog thing so when he was saying the golden retrievers stuff and it started picking up like there's fans that were reposting on tiktok and they said what a golden retriever means in like this millennial or generation z term and it's like a loyal companion that is loving and caring and blah blah blah so i took the golden retriever term as like a gen z like if they say what do y 'all what they be saying uh uh them niggas is on a shelf like they older or oh that's cooked like that's done like it's over so it was like one of those terms so it was like okay if they're if that's like a new millennial term then that's fine like i'll play into it like i'm your golden retriever people up there i'm looking for my companion and stuff so it's like okay like i'll embody that claim that and we'll like make it you know it's his thing so i'm gonna just co-sign it real quick right act like it's not a bad thing yeah but blue is like real animalistic he even likes to growl during sex so really yeah i think he really thinks he's a dog wow so So it was like a dog vibe?

8:57He's definitely very growling and very scratchy and very body. Was that hot to you? It was definitely. I was like, maybe it was like some out of jail like thing. That's what I was thinking. In prison, you got to be kind of an animal to survive. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking maybe it was like maybe like, and then I was like, damn, the dog. I was like, this nigga really think he a dog. Like for real, like he, you know what I'm saying? Like he really thinks he's a dog because even in the bedroom, he's, that's when he gets into the real, the real role playing with the pets. Did he ever bark? It wasn't necessarily a bark, but it was definitely a...

9:27There's no actual animals involved in this, right? There was no animals. He was like, you know, I guess he was a dog and trying to catch a nut. Oh, shit. Yeah, I mean, ain't we all, you know? Wait, so when did you... So sexually, would you say that he lives up to the hype? I don't know if the hype is about him as a sex partner necessarily, but you're kind of making it sound like he was really performing. He's definitely performative. That's a big word these days. It is, huh? Wait, wait, wait. So you're saying it's performative. Does that kind of mean that it's more of a performance rather than actually providing sensuality and pleasure?

10:10Yes. Really? So he's more like a wrestler. He's in there flexing. Yeah. I mean, the hype is about the size that he's rocking, and I won't decline. He's definitely top two probably. You know what I'm saying? Top two what? Biggest f*** I've ever had. Who's number one? See? We didn't talk about number one. But I didn't know that he was like reported to have had a huge dick. I didn't know that. Oh, you didn't know that? Oh, I get that. I mean, I'm surrounded by so many big d**ks that I probably didn't even think about. Oh, let's see. I'm not fortunate to always, you know, find horses out here. Really?

10:38In the p***** world, it's kind of pre-buck, was it? Yeah, true. You got to have a little something going on. Right. So in my everyday life, you know, I'm not running across horses all the time. So for that, I'll give him that. I cannot take the credit away because then I'll be capping on cap. But you're saying that he's got the equipment, but maybe at times. Like I said, I thought I was very fresh out of jail. Very fresh out of jail. Between him being not scared or reluctant, but his whole little low sex drive. And I was to myself for two years and didn't have sex. So I started to learn how to live without it.

11:15And then to very get down on your knees and suck my dick. you know what I'm saying but are you into that vibe of like kind of the dominatrix type thing of like you want to be told what to do order it around a little bit that's hot I'm submissive for sure like I'm bossy in a lot of places in my life but with like my man my person especially better my I gotta be dominated was he gangbanging while you were having sex gang like did he bang his hood yes what was what did he say how did you know this I don't know I just feel like I know I'm well enough to know that how would you know yeah on schoolyard crip on the dead homies that's my pussies on schoolyard crip this damn for real that's awesome how the hell did you know i don't know i just felt like i know i'm like i knew what his style would be yeah that is it i'm crying right now i'm dead dead on the dead homies that was definitely on the dead homies but what was it weird to like you know kind of have this like flare up of like obviously you're on tv you're getting all this attention and stuff but like now you're in his world where it's like it's a totally it's a fried fan base of some of the most burnt out bitches on earth are like really in the blue face fan club i was like with cat williams for four years right so and he's a little bit of a jcat but i mean blue face he's on a whole different playing field i feel like yeah because cat doesn't do social media so right yeah and with blue face it's like he's controlling it like every day here boom here's your narrative for the day yeah and then i have the nerve to say like oh you call paparazzi and you call you're like our camera's gonna be out there when we get out there like you you're with it like you wanted to go viral you wanted the video to go viral you were literally sitting there saying say on the comments uh i'm uh you with the hottest y in out like he's like really trying to and then like i said but that is funny you're saying that it's like hilarious well yeah so he's smart he knows that well it's even more hilarious because he's not even a y in at 28 you know but he said the cutoff is 25 he's a what is it called an old boy i think he's grandfather that what uh-huh this episode is brought to you by prime what if you had one more chance with the one that got away sam you came home based on the best-selling novel from carly fortune every year after follows childhood friends sam and percy as they reunite in the dreamy nostalgic lakeside town of berries bay love can be hard to find so if you're lucky enough to find that person never let go a second chance at first love every year after now streaming only on prime oh and then you're an unk right or big big homie yeah i just noticed he's not an unk yet no he don't move like an unk well like in his we his 30s i mean i'm 45 i'm a cougar yeah so no for sure i have to own what we are i mean okay he's not like you're right that typically 28 you're kind of like out of the way in category or whatever but i feel like it's more like your lifestyle and like how you present yourself and everything like that like i mean i'm confident that he will graduate to unk status one day but i don't you don't really give out that energy i mean with the way those peg legs are shaking and stuff i don't know he barely can like you know walk and stuff now i don't know he might be closer than we think well you think his body is still like adjusting to the weight that he put on yeah because it's so weird y 'all you remember that video when he was trying to lift like the dead the deadlift what is that called oh yeah that was like it's like if you like notice like his only issue is that the legs are still as small then with the new weight maybe he skipped leg day yeah i don't know we could try to put the jeans on and it was like the jeans wow i mean honestly that deadlift was a shitload of weight and but his legs i do remember they were shaking yeah that's how they are if you look at the video like that's the problem they're like knock me you know it's just a little this is a little you were making his legs shake in the bedroom too i mean should he was on all four like i don't know wait what on all fours doing what i'm just saying grow like i mean growling and scratching and biting like on top like doggy style then like doggy teeth on top like okay but he's not no you're painting a crazy picture by saying he was on all fours i'm just saying like i'm all of a sudden kind of uncomfortable with this no no no no if i'm on if i'm in doggy style position right and then he's on top of you yeah like prone he got bone they call that position like where you lay flat okay and you're kind of it's like doggy style but you're laid out flat uh-huh that's a perfect that's where you really yeah you hit that dog pose and you get the scratches and the growls and the bites you know yeah okay so my statement to whack though and whack like typically just exploded when i said this he was like acting like it was a ridiculous notion but i said like did you get the idea that he liked being with an older woman he's typically dealing with these young ass chicks and like she maybe was giving off a little bit more of like a mothering energy you know like being with an older woman i think that they are more inclined to like take care of you or want to take charge of certain things etc you know i feel like that's that's probably accurate or would you say no completely okay yeah completely so you were like locking into place in terms of like is that kind of like an instinct for you to like take a little bit of control i feel like you're not the chick who's just gonna be hanging out yeah no i have a child i'm a single mother i can't just be hanging out yeah and a lot of the girls are too but you know like when we go back to that city girl verse you know hazel east so i'm gonna be at home with my kid you know after i took my daughter over there for the video set and kind of got dragged a little bit for bringing her to the circus this is also i didn't even know about the circus like i knew about him i knew about cray sean like i never even though i was on zeus like after i my shit aired i dropped the subscription so the only things i would know about his life would be like clips or stuff i've seen on social media years ago before you know all this so uh yeah i like i can't be over at the house staying at the house all day with my child i got to get her to school we live in calabasas we live out here like it just wasn't that but in a yeah the cameras there is can you make the dinner reservations can you order me my food can you i need new you know what i'm saying um we're about to go do whatever meeting at meme house can you stop and give me some deodorant i need and yeah you just instinctually just like okay like he's a wyan like of course he needs help but he can still match it up because he could still you know send me the car service send me the buy me the roses give me the money like you know so it balances so so it felt good or like does your would you say that your preference is like a y-n or would you prefer to be with a guy who's you know 45 50 years old who's kind of a little bit more solid doing you know grown man stuff all day as opposed to you know kind of running wild that's what i probably need yeah and would probably like do me well but those guys want younger women so they're not really into into us they want somebody that they can like that's going to cater to them that they're going to be their world that that like aren't going to come with as many restrictions or boundaries and don't know what they want they can worship them so really that's the vibe yeah i feel like a lot of guys out here are looking for like i have to probably i'd have to probably go up to like 60 or something and then me and 60 60s yeah i just i can't do 60 even i've tried 50 i've tried 40s i feel like 40s they're already they're divorced like myself like they're just they're wounded they um keep their guard up they uh like hate love like you know what i'm saying there's that that they want to just be there and the why and the why ends they still have like hope for love they still want to live life they still want to bring life into you they just worship you so you're saying like when we see the 20 year old nba star who's just head over heels for some girl that we look at her and we're like who is this regular ass bitch that that's more of like a young dude thing but then once you find that guy and he's on the rebound he was married for six seven years and now he's out of it and he's like 30 that's not the guy that's like necessarily looking to get locked down they're trying to wild out they're trying to wild out and then they're toxic and they're like super talk and And then, ooh, those are like the 30 range is really rough for me.

19:17It has to be like 40 and up or like 30 and under. Like the 30s for some reason, I don't know. That's when I just don't have luck with guys in my 30s. I don't know why. I stopped. When I think about when I got into a relationship when I was like 32, I was wowing the fuck out. I was still partying my ass off. Me too. I started loving hip hop in our 30s. Yeah, 36 is when I was like, you know what, I'm going to have a kid and chill the fuck out. Exactly. And I waited until 40. like I waited till I waited till I was married I waited till you know so I was just like a late like I got it all out my system you know but I got waited till 40 like and then I married a YN he was 25 right was that a mistake well I mean yeah clearly but do for different reasons though yeah no just because it's not even he just wanted a mom he wanted to be taken care of it's damn like he was like a tender tender swindler really you know because he's already remarried again has another baby we've only been divorced two years oh shit yeah so he's just gonna find his next victim when did you start to sense that the blue face thing was not gonna last too long like was that were there reverberations before the actual shit got shut down um well he know he he knew that um i think it was after we saw you that weekend he had invited me to go to like his shows and get ready and get the babysitter like all that stuff and then he just started like flying chicks in and popping out on the carpet like for like and I was just like watching shit in real time and that's why he like sent me that bread like like I'm getting right back just you know stay solid or whatever and like he was really like trying to make sure like he still held like he still locked it in with me but still was able to go do all his stuff and I was still like okay like he did just get out of jail like you know I'm saying he's just outside a little bit but once but once I started seeing him do that I just started posting similar activities me outside at my booking with a guy.

21:08Me on FaceTime turning around for this one, just showing like if we're not going to be like that together, then I'm going to do what the hell I want to. And was he not feeling it? That's why he said you're so immature, like in the rant, like, oh, the shit that you're doing online, you're too old to be. He didn't give anybody a reason. Just said I was too old to be doing the stuff that I was doing online. The only thing I was doing online that day was matching your energy. Right. Not saying anything to you, just showing my interaction with other men. I think he was probably trying to test you. He wanted to prove or see.

21:37That's what Wax said too. Yeah, he wanted to see if you were going to be comfortable keeping it cool while he did some rapper shit. And then I think maybe you kind of failed that test by being like, hey, listen, if you're going to do that, then I'm going to do the same thing. Like he want, it might have been a test. Like, you know, we're both playing by different rules. If I'm going to go out and do this, I'm going to see if you're actually down. Although I'm going to be honest, I feel like he was probably just like bound to kind of move on to more shit either way. Yeah, that's more his MO, you know.

22:09Like I think I was always on his like wish list, you know. Oh, really? Yeah, for sure. Always on his wish list. Like he flew me out here before, like he never got to hit. So it was like that's why he came back. That's why it was just boom, boom, boom. Wait, he flew you out before when? In 2023. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, so in 2023. I put up the flights and the receipts of that too. Because he's like, I don't even know you. I've only known you for 20 days. well okay so here's our flights here's the money you sent me here's the hotel here's the now what because all i'm gonna do is debunk every lie that you're telling tell the story correct and i'm cool but if you want to like say like i only know you for 20 days hazel you too too old to be acting this you know i might as well go get me a young bitch you're gonna don't go there okay i'm too old you just got out of jail like you're a convicted felon with scribble scrabble all over your face bro like like this is like when you go look at power couples it's because both partners bring you know equal contributions to the relationship versus him and making his baby mama famous or make both both his baby mamas famous like but that did you want that treatment were you thinking i'm gonna get the blue face for sean glow up era in my life of like just inject that new energy um I mean, I don't have to get anything like crazy.

23:23Like, I don't even think we should be in the same like sentence, you know, because I'm a legend. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, so I don't think she's well on her way to being a legend one way or another crash out legend. Like, yeah, I mean, yeah. But like legendary and broke or in like it's just that she could be a legend for the wrong shit. You think she's broke? I don't know. every other day it's like a report about somebody having to get get lemmys giving her money here or she ain't got a place to stay there like it's something bigger probably wrong with this girl i feel bad because it seemed like she from like the stuff now that i'm like involved like it seems like she could have been cool before this situation and you know blue is such a narcissist that he just like broke her and like there's no way she's still running around with no tooth in her mouth and like thinking it's cool like something's wrong before blue face even had like a chance to influence her she was running around getting her tooth knocked out like i remember like kicking it around her when she first went there and she was even at that time like it was so she came in broken she was out of a house of ratchet bitches she clearly was like holding the crown she threatened to fight me from the moment i walked in because i said something making fun of her tooth and she just immediately was like i'll beat the shit out of that n-word and i'm just like whoa like that was sick like she's really like that and that was and that's honestly why it hit me because she was going off breaking shit in the house and i was like you're never gonna learn you're gonna keep going back to her and he's like i might need your help i'm on a plane back from dubai can you meet me in la like you know and all we did was sit in the room and talk about like how he can get out of his situation and this and that and all his shit whatever but um did i think i'm gonna get her glow It would have been a glow up for both of us.

25:07Because it was like, if I'm queen of love and hip hop Hollywood, right? Like there's, like out of the reality stars and people that live here, like I'm held up to like a young legend that I put love and hip hop Hollywood on. I brought it to LA, Mona and I did it. Ray J, we made a whole bunch of stars from it. My first clients as a publicist were Narls Barkley. Shout out to Scylla. Two Grammys, first year with Echo Haddock's echoing sounds when I was a publicist, right? That was a crazy legendary album that nobody ever talks about. But it is. And we did that. First time PR out the box. Like Grammys.

25:37Echo trained me up well. So with that being said, he comes out of jail. He could go back to Krayshon and them. Because this is what his mama told me. That he didn't know what he was going to do. So when he hit her up or whatever, he was like, let me just try to get some motion going. Because I just got out. So he didn't really have a plan all the way. And then when he seen me, we bumped into each other organically. It's like the shit clicked. And he just. Like Hazel gets clout. hazel mix tmz like every girl that you're with doesn't get top press and you should be able to know that like you know he could the other girls like they're not they're not finna be reporting on these bitches like you had to earn that so it was like it made sense and then the fact that i do like the pr like he's not stupid that nigga told me he was like i had a crush on you since you were a publicist and i wanted to get on your carpets and i always said when i make it i'm gonna with you that's what he told me on the first time he met me so it's like you nigga you've been a fan So for you to actually get it and then fumble it just because I was matching your energy is like whack.

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27:25that's all his mama wanted so you're saying that let's say that he's got like a zeus show that he's filming for and you know a couple weeks or a month or something and he hits you back and it's like you kind of know that he's just hitting you to come back to like you know get some content going and everything like that are you gonna stand on your square because you know i already went through that i'm not trying to get embarrassed or humiliated or are you gonna be like you know why this is this is content this is this is good shit are you gonna like snap back in um you said Zeus? Yeah or something because I feel like that's who he's primarily locked in with.

27:58It's like Zeus or say like VH1B. For an app TV show, yeah no. But if he was to call me on some network shit I'm a network TV girl. You feel me? I'm IMDB status. Wait so you look at Zeus as some brokey shit? I didn't know that. All I ever hear is how much money they got. No. Lemmy has like a lot of money. Me and Masika we did the conversation. I was like their first fight and everything on Zeus. We cracked Zeus off. So it's like no they've elevated but just their programming is like baddies baddies baddies and it's just their talent it's it's very blue face and carla it's very the porters you know what i'm saying at zeus for me personally me going over to zeus like unless it was like my own show like lemme was like okay hazel let's bring cougar chronicles over okay great because i probably can't get cougar chronicles on vh1 or mtv but something with blue face and a me we could have we tv wanted to meet with us i know love and hip-hop was probably going to be two seconds away like maybe we can reboot this let's see what this looks like but for that we could fight for a bad guy right a storyline's a storyline baby but um but yeah like for some shit he got it he got the right girls but his in his pound puppies right now for zoos for sure but i feel like you know in the kennel if you've got all these wild ass chicks it's like you need somebody more steady somebody with like a little bit more emotional stability perhaps i think that's what everybody wanted for him but he got to want it for himself you know i'm just talking from a content perspective like you know i don't know is that part of it or is like is the is the like modern reality tv blueprint that like everybody's just got to be a crazy person and there's no need for like normal human beings because that that was my impression from what i've watched at baddies is like yeah this is impossible like how is anyone fighting this much yeah there's not that's wouldn't make it on network tv yeah it has to stay on like i call it like app tv because no one you can't put that like who's gonna run ads in commercials of baddies on like you know what i'm saying like who's going to pay for those advertising slots like that's how they make money in reality so my girl was asking me to explain what zeus was which kind of explains like how out of the loop she is but and i was like lemmy is basically a guy who saw love and hip-hop and he said oh okay this i'm gonna put this shit on steroids and put it on an app instead of tv and he did it during covet too so zeus came out so during covet like we were coming back for season seven of love and hip-hop covet happened they had to put that push back the production date i was supposed to have my daughter on season seven um and they couldn't film we like la was under lockdown couldn't film whatever lemmy had zeus going up she he i think had like black china on there and he just started the conversation with ray j prince whatever so we got a call in the middle of covet to do it mind you you can't get any money you can't do whatever and he's paying a bag like you know i'm saying back then i think i think he paid me for one day of filming like 27 000 first class flight like you know it sounds like i don't want to work with this bitch again but for this kind of money during COVID and I just had a baby.

30:48I'm finna go finna go get this. So during COVID he was the only one really still filming. So he was being able to push out content. That makes sense. When other networks couldn't. Wow I didn't think about that but that makes a lot of sense. And then they just corrupted the system because then baddies came and it was like takeover and then it was like well now everyone's trying to like regroup because now the fans are used to watching super ratchet. Like Love and Hip Hop was like the last of like the okay ratchetness. Like you know there's Housewives and you know like Vanderpump you know there's levels to it and Love and Hip Hop was like the the that's as ratchet as we could go over here right you get baddies and it's like we're in the gutter right but do you feel like does Love and Hip Hop have to like adjust to compete with that I feel like that's probably part of the reason why they also didn't want to come back because now it's like this era level of ratchetness they can't do that on network like we were getting fined by season four I was getting fined like every time you threw a punch a drink you're getting$1 ,500 taking out your check.

31:45Really? Yeah, they started fining us because it was like, like I said, you can only go so far. Ratchet on network. Wow, that's crazy because, yeah, when you watch Zeus, it's like they got the bodyguards sort of like lingering right there ready to like rip people apart. And if they give you like a good 510 just to run it real quick. Exactly. Yeah. And it very much feels like the rebirth of like Jerry Springer, which we all spend a lot of time watching as kids or even like professional wrestling. Yeah. It's like it feels like professional wrestling for girls. Yeah. I love that. I mean, he's made like a culture.

32:15It's a culture behind baddies. You know, they have their sayings. They've made artists. Like, and what they're doing, like, I can't even discredit it. Like, I'm happy to be one of the pioneers. You know what I'm saying? To give them their first fight. Even though Lemmy's bitch ass was going to let us go to jail when Masika called the police on us and had us hemmed up in COVID at a cop car. And then it was just like, we're about to have to double file charges. So the whole shit got dropped. But that's how you know, like, it was a way different thing. Calling the police. Like, imagine they called police the baddies.

32:43Yeah, right? Yeah, right. People filed lawsuits, though, right? Yeah, now Masika did file a$6 million lawsuit on me and Zeus for her getting her ass beat on that. But then we just shot, like, a follow-up to that with Ray J, and she dropped the suit and stuff in order for me to film. Oh, well, that's good. Wait, so are you and Masika, like, BFFs at this point, or what? Or no? No, okay, so that was that time period, and then now you're very much not cool. But when did you all fall out? Oh, we fell out during season one. 11 years ago it's been an 11 year 11 yeah it's 11 yeah because that's like one i don't have that many connections within the the love and hip-hop multiverse but she's one person she actually basically like defeated one of the no jumper hosts i remember that sharp yeah i remember that got a quick tongue sharp got out the paint yeah as a result of her yeah he did i remember him walked up through the shit like got up walked out the scene she's sitting over there like you may not get along with it but that was pretty legendary she took out a solid pimp yeah like 10 years of pimping under his belt because he asked her if she would have gone baddies and even though me i'm a secret from two walks of life and you know she's probably very more fit for baddies than me due to her background you know but uh she even was like that's beneath me you know i'm saying and he was trying to say you know how it wasn't just saying what you're we're sitting here talking about why it wouldn't be a fit for me why the circus is not a fit for me like you know you have to be a certain kind of person to want to do that and i didn't like i said i didn't know about the circus like on this girl i didn't have much time the nigga got out of jail i didn't have like a chance to go and like okay well what's all the shit that he's done in the past right i didn't even know he was beating bitches like i didn't know none of this shit you know i didn't know like i didn't know and i'm like finding out stuff i didn't but to me it looked seemed very like both ways toxic so i thought the calm the mature person like if i gave that energy that's what i would receive right okay but so that's the cougar shit but does this like reaffirm your belief that you should be with somebody older and more mature maybe i feel like i should be with whoever the universe brings you you had i feel like no woman as attractive or as successful as you has just like a blank roster i'm sure at the moment that you linked up with blue face that there was already guys who are vying for your attention every every girl's got a little crowd of suitors that she can pick from at any given time he opened the he opened the floodgates for the y-ends you know what i'm saying i ain't gonna lie like my dms are who is um and i'm just like oh i didn't even know you exist so you like and they're like coming up on some like i want a cougar i want an older woman i want a more mature woman and it's some heavy hitters in there really some hundred million dollar net worths in there like it's you know some it's some it's some stuff so i was like oh hundred million we're talking about a rapper athlete athlete okay more more athletes with a hundred million net worth okay because not even at worth it's like contracts i'm trying to think of rappers with a hundred million that were those pretty short lists yeah no no it's ball players it's ball players okay athletes so there's a rappers in there too i feel like all the rappers and stuff that are in there just you know want to be with the girl you see with blue face type time yeah yeah like i never really did like like yeah the whole rapper thing like it's never really been like my like you know forte anyway so i did it i tried it i tried like a rapper gang member like that like yeah you kind of like where else is there to go at that point you kind of like i'm divorced listen i'm divorced okay it's a good time you know i'm saying 21 year old rapper or 21 year old nba star nba because they will have like a more normal personality there's like a better chance of them being a regular person well that and i feel like they're um in their profession the rules like they can't exactly they can't do certain things it would violate their contract.

36:27They can't, even if, you know, they're alcoholics or like whatever, like you have to take drug tests. Like you're accountable when you're an athlete. Not to say that these athletes ain't crashing out. We didn't see some CTE and go. But every day Blueface does multiple things that if he were signed to an NBA team, he would be fined like hundreds of thousands of dollars. His probation will come back and take his ass to jail if he don't cut it out. You know what I'm saying? I haven't thought about that. Hopefully that doesn't happen. That would be a tragedy. I mean, listen, I told him that was so the night before the crash out.

36:59That was another little thing at the Zeus thing. I told him to stop doing some of the activities that I seen because I got detained with you with probation officers for three hours at the house. Really? What happened? We don't even know about that, right? I know. Oh, what were they tripping about? I think like one of his baby mamas or some we don't we don't know, but somebody definitely call like probation and DCFS and like saying, you know, um there was kids here and it was unsafe or some you know bs whatever and he was very compliant i i was there he was there his engineer was there you know we got taken out the house they came up with the little taser scope things because we were just sitting on the couch like we had just woken up for a nap he had to go do a 20 v1 we saw like the flashlights other than the boom boom boom you know and so um yeah so we were detained i heard all his charges everything he supposed to do not supposed to do we'll go back to jail for the whole list they were coming back in 24 hours so he had to clean this shit up and they literally his mom they came back in 24 hours so he has certain conditions I guess that you know he can't violate and I cared about that so I I tried to I seen him in a space and I was like you should probably take that down and take that and then he banged on me you know what I'm saying and I'm like you got it and he's like no but I love you for it because it's at the same time it's like I'm not telling you like to turn you down I'm telling you to keep you free and right now you might hate me for it maybe that's like the the mother instinct shit in me.

38:19I don't know. He was like, it's not my place. You know, we never really apologized for it. We moved past it, but... I mean, honestly, I feel like I speak for the streets, the hoods of Los Angeles. We can't afford to lose him. It was really dry prior to this. As far as LA rappers, real motion. You got Kendrick, but obviously he's on his own wavelength. That's what I told him. I said, there's only really Kendrick. He's in outer space. And then you got Blueface, and he's really outside. like you know you can reach out and touch boofas yg okay here there game yeah you know legends but not necessarily like they're older though they're not day-to-day in the mix in the same way he's outside yeah getting 310 baby back out there but yeah like he is you know that's how i was looking like i said i was looking from like you know that perspective that i don't care even if you get mad at me i'm still gonna tell you like you probably shouldn't be doing this you know like so that was like a thing but so okay my uh my wife and i did an interview with jayden and in it jayden kind of warned me that if blue face gets a chance he will my wife right now that might be a little bit less jarring for me to hear than the average person because we do have a relationship in which we uh you know film with other people and stuff like that and so he makes a video where he basically says hey adam just so you know i will your wife and then yesterday she makes a video basically saying you have two weeks get tested get your stamina up it'll be me you a cameraman and my husband sitting in a little chair in the corner cut cold shit and today right before we got on here thank you for saying that right before we got on here he makes another video where he basically says that i i think he picked up on the fact that dollar signs were lighting up in her eyes the realization that shooting with blue face would probably be like the most viral thing that she's ever done in her entire life and i think that he he sort of like correctly picked up on the fact that she and i were maybe a little bit too excited about this idea that we might be looking at this idea as like a a vacation home which i you know from his perspective it's like it's kind of like do you really want to give that career extension slash lifeline to this girl like is that a fair scenario or should he be looking to you know take charge and do that kind of content on his own which i i totally understand as a businessman i think he he kind of sniffs it out that maybe this wouldn't be as am it advantageous to him as it would be to her and there was like not a revenue new share or something that could have taken place.

41:02He's a businessman. I mean, I would be down for that, but I don't think he doesn't even have an OnlyFans anymore. I've always kind of, I don't think he's going to fuck on camera like that. Like, why would he? Like, most guys don't. I mean, he said, I think before, like him and Creshawn's tape leaked or something like that. Did it? I think so. I don't even remember, but. He wasn't trying to do Ray J. Okay. I'm saying Blue wasn't trying to give a full-on performative, like Ray J. Right. I think. Yeah. I mean. Get business done with the new American Express Graphite Business Cash Unlimited card. With unlimited 2 % cash back on all eligible purchases, unlimited 5 % cash back on flights and prepaid hotels booked through American Express Travel Online, and a flexible spending capacity that can grow with your business, you'll have the confidence to keep building.

41:47Apply today and earn a welcome offer of$1 ,500 cash back after you spend$50 ,000 in qualifying purchases on your new card within the first six months of card membership. Terms apply. Learn more at go.amex.com. I don't know. Do you think he should? Do you think he would be able to make it as a star based on what you've seen out there? It would be interesting. People would just watch it for the shock value. I don't even know if they'd even, you know what I'm saying? Because he doesn't take shit seriously. I don't think people think that he takes anything seriously. So him even doing it, I don't think they would even think, you know, he'd have to be vulnerable enough to really, you know, do that.

42:22Dude, if he couldn't get hard, which I'm sure he's fine with that in the real world. I mean, if she's going to top them all. But I'm just saying, in the world, you wouldn't believe how many of these guys can't get hard. Oh, wow. If he couldn't get hard, I'm making a 30-minute video compilation of him beating his meat with slow piano music in the background. And we're going to release that to the public. Instead. I'm just kidding. I don't want to do that to him. But I mean, I just want. I mean, he's your boy. I've seen it. I mean, you don't think it was just literally just off the respect? What?

42:55not banging her i mean really like the respectful thing if he wanted to honor our friendship the most respectful thing that he could do would be to bang my wife right and help us to get a vacation home yeah yeah see that's what he gets see that's what i'm saying he always talking about some shit is for entertainment see that stop writing checks your ass can't catch he might have met his match yeah he met his match with us because we really and he met his match with me he's willing to do whatever for the bread let's get to it let somebody bang your baby mama on camera that's what and then come back and let me know if you're down to do anything for the bread yeah this is why i go up because i'm like does he think he finna punk me like me hazel like you think you finna get that off okay like let's go like did you accuse him of being zesty in the breakup or was that a fake news post oh that was a it was it was him um drenching himself in the water it was him you know he's very fresh out of jail it was very you know i don't know if he was having flashbacks from the prison shower but um nothing zesty's happening in there nothing in the prison not to him oh okay well maybe on some other yard the yard that he's on i don't think so okay so well no ass play it was very he i don't know he thought he was like i don't know what it was about that so I mean, I saw it like floating around and I was like, see, this is what his ass gets.

44:17Because that was one of the nights he pissed me off. And it was just like the DL whisperer. He likes to, you know, talk about men and like certain down low. Who is the DL whisperer? Oh, you got to get into the DL whisperer. Is this an actual person? Yes, it's a person. It's not like a genie? No, he tells women like the signs and stuff to look for in DL men. He gets into people like he's great. DL whisperer is like amazing. and so right when he's seen the blue face stuff he's like sis are you for real he's like that man just got out of prison he's talking about a cray sean in her ass he's like you don't he's like you guys got to give him time you know i'm saying let him catch back up to society and then it was just like a couple things that i guess he did and the deal whisper was just you know posting him and breaking down the down lowness of it so you know he tried he tried to he tried to sneak diss me so you know he tried to repost some old shit for me in season one so you know what I'm saying I reposted some gay shit on him and then he took it down and then I took it down but you're in the shower you're maybe like dancing and gyrating a little bit I mean he's an entertainer there's no song that he has that required that there was nothing I might have to go through the archives I don't know it was very Tyler it was make me sweat it was very Tyler Tyler was giving that water that's what it was giving I was waiting for him to take his dreads down and just give, honey, give face, darling.

45:42Work, bitch. Oh, my God. That's what I wanted, like, next, after that, okay? But you don't actually think he's got a sliver of gayness in him, do you? Listen, see? No. I don't believe it. I don't have liquor. See, if I would have had liquor, I would have just said it. You want to leave room for people to believe it? No, no, no. I was going to ask you as a straight man a question. Hit me. I don't know. This might be going too far. no it's not too fast ask away okay okay as a straight man how do you feel about running red lights i'm down right as a straight man anybody's have a problem with running red lights okay so um during like the the first time we were about to go there i was like man i'm like i i got you know period you know i'm saying i was gonna go we're in the shower you know sam's around he was like I'm not gay I could run a red light I said okay pep talk out loud get to the bed grabs the con you know saying he's running a red light about three not even four pumps niggas went lip was like I can't do this like you know whatever like we'll try this again when you're off your period and I was just like hmm I didn't know if it was gay or not and I only really have like I did ask I did ask SK.

47:02Like, I don't have that many straight homeboys. Most of my homeboys are gay. So the thought of running a red light is complete. I asked D.L. Whisperer. And he was like, oh, my God, I'm so glad I'm a gay man because running a red light just terrifies me. Really? And it terrified him. And so that was the only, only thing that I just was like, is that normal for a guy to be scared to run a red light? I was married for four years. If me and my man wanted to get it popping, red light or not, green light, it was popping. So I just didn't have ever come into contact with that before. Okay. But to be fair.