Hernandez Govan on Beating Young Dolph's Murder, Yo Gotti, Big Jook, Beef with Flakko & More

29:37Does that feel like it's like a calculated choice? Oh, I don't think it's more. So I haven't thought about that until you asked the question, but I don't think it's more so calculated. I think he just moved how he moved. He always been like that. You don't have to know him to see how he moved. He never responds to the hate or whatever the case may be. So I don't think it's more so calculated. I think it's more so just him. Or it could be a little bit of both. Right. Yeah, I know because I try to move calculated and strategic. So, you know, it might be a little bit of both. We've just seen so many Ricos where the star rapper, the young thug of the situation or the Luchi is like actually ordering stuff, never mind driving people around to do stuff.

30:35And like when you look at Gotti, it's kind of like, oh, I feel like you're someone who you've seen the game. You've been watching the playoff for all these years and you don't want to end up in that situation. So you make sure that you stay very far away from any kind of street shit. Yeah, yeah, for sure. He, you know, his upbringing was, I guess, it served him right, and I guess in certain, you know what I'm saying, instances. You know, he's seen it all at an early age, you know. So, you know, I think, if I want to correct me if I'm wrong, I think his mom went to prison, federal prison, maybe one of his aunts or something like that or whatever.

31:13So, you know, he always been around, and he knew the streets at an early age. I'm sure, you know, because it's right there. So I'm sure he know the do's and don'ts. He probably learned them sooner than a lot of other people did. So you are forming this relationship with Duke and everything, but did you have a relationship with Dolph prior to this, or how well did you know him? I mean, me and Dolph didn't have a relationship where I'd wake up on the phone and call him, hey, what up, bro, what you got going with him? Pull up on me. It wasn't nothing like that. If I had some good weed and orange mound that they didn't have necessarily access to at that time in Castile, there's been times when he's called me and I've called him when he's had a certain grade of marijuana or strand that I didn't have.

32:01And, you know, so, you know, yeah, we've done those type of transactions for sure. Like I said, you know, Big Daddy, Daddy O, the leader of Paper Route. Good dude. Know him personally. Been in them rooms hustling all night with, you know, doing what we had to do. But so are you thinking like by aligning yourself with Joke and Straight Drop and this sort of CMG side that you're naturally going to kind of become at odds with Pierre and Dolph, or are you thinking, like, I'm just doing business, so I'm not going to really be seen as being. Yeah, it was more so, you know, because I never was interested in getting.

32:42I didn't want the fame that came with it. I just wanted my name on that contract where I get my percentage. You know, I don't want to be Diamond Dash or none of that. You know, I just wanted to be able to take care of me and my kids for the rest of my life and generate some wealth and income for my kids and their kids. So, you know, that was my plan. I ain't never want to move around. I ain't never want to be on Vlad. I ain't never want to be on no jumper. I'm a big fan of the show. You know what I'm saying? Follow it for sure because I'm a hip-hop, you know, I come from the era. But some people end up in this position, And some people, the whole goal is to become a media personality or to do enough beefing or enough controversy that they could end up on a show like Vlad or No Jumper.

33:39You were just trying to do business, make some money, and then you ended up in the situation where people like us wanted to talk to you. Yeah, yeah, correct. You know, and at the same time, you know, I always been, you know, you know, who don't like money. And so, you know, if it's a situation where I could potentially capitalize off of negativity, then I'm going to do it, you know. So I've been seeing a little, you know, backlash and people saying things about my channel, my YouTube channel, which is at quickpicks.com. And so, you know, they can be upset or whatever, but at the end of the day, I feel like if they was in my shoes, they would do the same thing.

34:26You know, it fell in my lap. I didn't, I didn't go looking for it or whatever. So, you know, it is what it is. Yeah. It is kind of weird because you're like famous for something that you didn't do and that you weren't found that you were at least not found guilty of, but it's like inevitably like some percentage of people are going to view you as essentially taking credit for the charges that you beat by doing media talking about all the charges that you beat. It's kind of like a tricky role for you to be in, huh? Well, yeah. For the ones that think like that, I think they should, you know, maybe watch the Vlad interview.

35:06You know, I ain't never been a goofy to take credit for something that I played no part in.

35:17I absolutely positively didn't have anything to do with the murder of Young Dolph I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you an example and I ain't get this to play it I've been in the streets a long time right I think you could say I probably jumped off the porch maybe when I was maybe 16 or something like that I was gambling before the end but I wouldn't necessarily call it jumping off the porch. I started getting money, started like dealing drugs maybe when I was 16. And with that being said, I was probably when Dolph got killed, I probably was maybe what, 41 or some shit like that. I mean, I've been in the streets a long time.

36:05What idiot you know gonna go on a drill, conspire to kill someone as famous as young Dolph and agree to park the car across the street from his house. Like some shit just don't make no sense. That is not what you do. You burn the car, destroy the car. I've been on this street 40 years plus. Know everybody on the street, from the older people, the younger people, everybody. Why would I park the car across the street from my house while I sell drugs? you're saying that that's something that some knuckleheads who did this might do but it's definitely not something that you would have if you were a part of the conspiracy ain't no way you would have told them to do it a lot smarter than they did even if i advised them or didn't ain't no way that car coming back across the street from my house all right let me ask you about that so when the shooting did happen the white bins went viral and we seen pictures of it outside of a, I guess people was calling it a trap.

37:12So you're saying that was your home across the street was where you was living at? Well, the yard that the car was found in, my spot was directly across the street from it. And that was such a smoking gun when that information came out that we were like, oh, now we know exactly how this situation played out. Yeah, yeah, you know, and you would think that, especially if you don't know the dynamics of my street that I grew up on. Like I had a god brother at one point named Bobby, Bobby Carter, and he's deceased now. That's how I met Cornelius, through him. He brought him around. and with that being said, Keneze was on that street before I was even released from prison, you know, based off of, you know, Bobby.

38:10You know, he had a pass to be over there on the strength of Bobby. So he didn't need me to be on the street chilling or whatever the case may be. So when the car was parked at that location, if you don't necessarily know that he had a relationship with Bobby prior to me, you don't know. The only reason you think he might park that car on the street is based off of me, of me and his relationship. But he was on that street before I even got released from prison, and that was with Bobby. You knowing both Straight Drop and Cornelius, why would they park that car there if you just had to guess? if what was reported is true as it relates to him being shot I just think I just think they panicked maybe

39:10from what he testified to he said Justin was shot grazed as well in the back or something I think and if that's the case, you know, if you're just coming off a drill, a high-profile drill like that, both of y 'all shot, I just think they panicked and weren't thinking. That's the only sense I could make of it. Because they shot multiple music videos. Straight Drop had multiple music videos in that same yard of the house. So everyone was like, why would you? Well, I wouldn't say multiple. At least one of them. He had one. All right. And, yeah, and so, you know, with that being said, if you got a video that you shot in the yard, you just made more sense of it, Remo, why would you park the car you just killed off in in the same yard where you shot a video with?

40:04That's panic. That's the only thing that I could think of. I done been in them situations before, you know, so it's like everything happening fast, you know, so, you know. And it definitely wasn't a conspiracy because if it was, they would have had something better than that, you know. Outside of Bobby, what was you and Cornelius' relationship? How did y 'all start getting around each other and build a better bond? You saying before Bobby introduced me to him or after? Outside of him because you said you met him through your cousin. So, like, y 'all obviously grown in your own relationship. I met him through my godbrother, you know what I'm saying, or whatever.

40:41And, you know, so he, you know, he started, he was addicted to pills. You know what I'm saying? Ex-pills or whatever the case may be. I had access to them. You know, I've always been a hustler. You know, it's my past life. I don't see those drills and nothing like that no more. But that was the only relationship that I had with him. You know, he would come over, buy pills. You know, he might buy weed every blue moon or whatever the case may be. He just started calling me big bruh for whatever reason. and I guess just on the strength of Bobby. But if it wasn't for Bobby, I wouldn't even never met that dude.

41:17I mean, he's a bum. I mean, a drug, a junkie. I wouldn't have never had no type of dealings with him, period. Because I did hear you say I'm glad. So you and Jook had the meeting with Straight Drop. Correct. At your house. And during that time, or during the meeting, Cornelius happened to walk up to your house and knock on the door. and he actually told you, he was like, you heard he's out here trying to kill Gotti, but you said you didn't want to bring that to Juk's attention at the time, so you just disregarded what he said and I guess I don't know where you served him. Where you heard it from, man?

41:52On a Vlad TV interview you just did. Yeah. You said on a Vlad TV, when Straight Drop was there. I thought you said, no, I ain't saying you lying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You definitely heard it. I thought maybe you said, I thought you said you got it out of Discovery or something like that. No, no, I heard you say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, that's how that went. And, you know, to get Jook over to talk about some music, you know, was a feat in itself. You know, Jook ain't going to pull up in the ghetto for no anybody. And so when Cornelius, when I was approached with this, for one, I thought it was a lie.

42:32Because I never heard of Dolph trying to do anything to Gotti at that point. I done heard of this shit the other way around. And two, Jook hadn't said nothing to me about no beef or Dolph trying to kill his brother. So why would I go back in there and bring up this weird-ass conversation and take a chance on running him off on the potential business deal? I didn't want to take that risk. You're probably thinking this is a nightmare because he might just get up and leave. Spaz out on the dude. there's all kinds of bad shit. One, I'm thinking, this appeal, he, he don't know what the hell he talking about.

43:14With me being so, I guess, uh, in tune to the streets, I'm thinking I would hear that before he would have. And by me not having heard it at that point, I'm thinking if I go back in here and say something to joke about this, and let's just say, if it ain't true. Just gonna be like, who are these weird ass outside saying this goofy ass shit? I don't need to be over here. I might not need to be over here. I might need to roll. So I didn't want to take the chance and I didn't say nothing to him about it. I came back in, we finished talking about the music and he was just telling us exactly what we needed to do to get dropped hot to the point where it would be a go.

44:00And when he was leaving, that's when he was approached by I couldn't hear you, Sinbobby.

44:08And Jook kind of just shrugged it off? He didn't really take it? He didn't really pay attention to it or what? I mean, you know, he... They did get to have that conversation with him, probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He most definitely had the conversation, you know. And to my surprise, Jook didn't say, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Jook knew what he was talking about. Matter of fact, Jook asked him, how did he note it? And he said that Dolph had an aunt or a cousin or something over there that lived by his dad. And Dolph had been bragging on the drill that he, you know, sent some people to get up with Gotti.

44:46And Gotti was in the Rolls Royce bulletproof truck. Damn. That's going to happen. Gets deep. All right. So what was, to your Nolan, what was Cornelius and Straight Drop's relationship at that time? Because you knew one and you knew both of them separately. But they happen to both be at your crib the same. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, it's like by Cornelius coming over regularly by Pills, which, you know, that was basically my relationship with him. You know, some days he might try to, you know, hang around or sit around. You know how some of them do when they get sort of comfortable a little bit or whatever.

45:30Now he done got into the big bro now. You know what I'm saying? Calling me big bro. So, you know, you might sit down, roll a blunt, just chill or whatever. And, of course, you know, he might see Dropper or whatever, you know, going or coming. They might just so happen to be there at the same time or however, you know. But they didn't even really have a relationship, so to speak. You know, it was more so, what's up, you know what I'm saying, or whatever, you know. And they were never kicking it on their own or riding around or nothing like that. You know, I just think that Drop, Cornelius gave an impression to Drop that he was, you know, like that, you know, in the streets or whatever the case may be.

46:22and if what the jury said happened is true, then maybe drop at the last minute or whatever. It felt like, you know, let me get somebody who said he liked it and they say he liked it and just, you know, do whatever they do. But it was never a close relationship. They ain't never have a bond or none of that, you know, And I can adamantly say that. You just said that your God, you said Dolph was bragging to his cousin about the hit that he tried to do on your God. So when Jook asked Cornelius, how did he know about the attempted hit on his brother? Cornelius said that Dolph had a cousin or aunt that lived by his dad and Dolph had been bragging about it.

47:16And that's how he supposedly knew about it. And that's how they went. But it was a well-kept enough secret that you hadn't heard about it. I hadn't even heard about it. Just think about it. It wasn't even ever on social media. You know, God is just so secretive. He never reported it. Street n***ing ain't going to report it or whatever. So it never made its way to the net or whatever. So I had never heard of it at that point. But you know what you know being in the streets. and then you said you had a relationship with Dolph somewhat, you can kind of see it maybe being true. Like, why wouldn't he want to get back at somebody shooting at me?

47:57Oh, definitely. I could see that, you know. But me being who I am, I'm thinking I would have heard that. But they just did a great job of keeping it under wraps, you know. You know what I'm saying, you know. So it was music to my ears the day that I heard that. if you had to call it what do you think started the beef between Gotti and Dolph in the first place I just think you know they say he didn't sign yeah I just think that you know the music deal you know what I'm saying the potential music deal went bad I just think when Gotti allegedly from what Dolph said talked down on his artists to him when he was trying to sign and he was like, I ain't got to hold your hand like I got to hold Stolito hand like I got to hold Zed hand and you know, you got your own motion and Dolph did a few interviews saying how God it was a sucker in his eyes for talking down on his artists to him, to try to sign him.

49:02So I think that just, you know, all of it just played a part in it, you know, and just one thing led to another song start being made and you know, and there you have it. You know, everybody want to be like, you know, they ain't going and they superior and ain't nobody, don't nobody want to stand down. So I just think that's how it happened. You feel like the bond Dolph had with Gucci Mane kind of like. Of course, of course. Because at the time they were saying that, you know, I think Couture was messing around with Yorgati. I mean, I mean, yo, yo, yo did an interview and he said that. Yeah. On camera.

49:42so I don't think God he'll get on I don't think he'll risk his reputation and all of that on camera by saying that and it ain't true because we've seen Gucci squash his beefs from that era of his life you know 2013 2014 a lot of people he's basically patched stuff up but there are a few notable exceptions God he's one of them Waka Faka is one of them that we just still haven't really seen them get cool and there was a lot of rumors or stories is being told about Gotti pulling up at Gucci's house with a gun and shit like that? I don't know. I don't think that's true. I think when the issue, they had the issue back in the day about when Gucci had the issue and Gotti was supposed to drop on 1017.

50:29Okay, yeah. And they had a show coming up soon, right after they, Gucci went on the radio or whatever it was and had his rant. And so from what I was told, Gucci didn't show up to that show because it posed to being like immediate smoke after that. And he didn't show up or whatever. But yeah, so, you know, if he didn't squash his beef with yo like he did, everybody else I think is more so about the girl, his wife, and no disrespect to her. But would you be willing to squash some beef with somebody who had sex with your wife you know maybe while you was in prison I don't know when it was or whatever oh lord it's supposed to be your friend especially it's like if there's if they've disrespected your girl like it's one thing if maybe they slept together before you were together but if they've been disrespectful about your girl that's usually the thing that you can't get over what if it wasn't before or if they slept with a wife and then we're really talking exactly so That's probably the reason you'll never see that beef squash.

51:44Because you basically have to go against his wife. What I don't understand is how you could be mad at God and not be mad at your wife. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess it's just different. They move how they move, but me from where I'm from, I ain't going to be mad at him and not be mad at her. I mean, when I interviewed Stan G, who I don't know, does that name mean anything to you? You're a Stan G fan? Am I a Stan G fan? Yeah. I mean, I didn't know he was anybody to be a fan of. Well, he's a content creator, you know. We had him on here. It did pretty well. Some of the clips went pretty viral.

52:23Yeah, that probably was more so because of you and your fans. Okay, okay. But anyway, one thing that Stan said, oh, man, was that he said that basically like Gucci, if he doesn't like you, he will take the rappers who might have a little bit of buzz from your section and sign them and basically like kind of go out of his way to create controversy or beef with dudes from your section. and that that, in Stan's mind, is the explanation for why certain artists from Memphis got signed to Gucci is basically because that was Gucci's way of sort of subliminally beefing with Gotti. I think whoever that person is you're talking about is right to a certain extent because, you know, for him to have, it's talent all over the world.

53:15And he had a hella interest in the artists here, I mean, well, in Memphis. and a lot of the artists that he signed was, were artists that was in, I guess, rival neighborhoods, things like that, you know, Gucci ain't dumb at all, you know. So I do think there was a way of, like, subliminally trying to antagonize Gotti, you know, or whatever. Like, I'm going to get the talent out of your city. you're supposed to be this big CEO and you know I can't tell like it so to speak and it's like from Gucci's perspective it's like if he could spend 20k 30k whatever it might be to sign an artist and then basically create like a permanent thorn in the side of a of a major rapper that he does not get along with I mean that's kind of attractive he doesn't have to get his hands dirty at all and he basically like creates an op for him in his own city never has to really engage with it but also knowing that the rapper realistically is not going to say no to this big opportunity exactly you know and you know and uh it also created a sense of protection too especially if you come to memphis you know so you know uh because you know gucci he signed some credible street dudes.

54:36You know. LTO Sid. Can't forget the other one. Shiesty. Blue Shiesty. Yeah, for sure. Shiesty. Yeah, for sure. Shiesty. You don't even have to mention Shiesty's name. That was like the greatest success of his current 1017. Yeah, I can't forget. It's another one that's from North Memphis. Yeah, I can't remember. Big Walk Dog. Was he from there or was he from Texas? Where Fugiani from? No, Fugiani. He ain't from Memphis. He ain't from Memphis. Where were you at when you found out that Yandolph got shot at Makita's Cookies? I was actually headed to my brother's car lot. And I had to go and holler at him about a vehicle.

55:16So I was going down Lamar and Crump at that time. And how did you hear it? Was it on the news or tweets? Social media. My phone started buzzing. I started getting a couple of calls or whatever. And so, yeah, that's how I found out. and then instantly you probably seen the viral pictures because I seen you say on Vlad because initially straight dropping him didn't get charged with it at first but you said the streets were already trying to charge them or not charge them but saying that Cornelius and straight drop had something to do with it and you were seeing that on the internet like seeing the pictures outside of the house and everybody trying to say straight drop had something to do with it because he shot the music video there is that where you was getting that information from just that social media of people saying that because of that?

56:04Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. You know, social media, you know, that shit spread like wildfire, you know what I'm saying? And then, you know, like I said, I started getting calls or whatever from other people saying things on social media that I wasn't seeing. And so, yeah, it was more so, and then the things that I was seeing, it was more so related to Straight Drop because Cornelius basically was a nobody, you know. So whatever I seen in the beginning, it wasn't nothing canidious. It was just straight drop. And how many days was it before straight jobs started becoming basically the number one suspect in the eyes of the YouTubers in the community?

56:44Shit. That same day. It was the same day. Okay. That same night. So from your perspective, I'm assuming that you weren't thinking, oh, I'm going to get charged with this. You were probably just thinking, damn, I wanted to sign him. And I thought this was going to be a great opportunity. and it seems like he fucked that opportunity up. In the beginning, of course, I'm not thinking that I'm going to get charged, you know, because I know in my heart that I had nothing to do with it. When I started to have concerns is when my previous attorney that I had before, Manny, he reached out to me on Super Bowl and called me early in the morning and was like, oh, Van, what you got going?

57:27I said I'm just at the house I said what's going on and he said I want you to meet me in my office I said you do know it's Super Bowl Sunday right and he said yeah yeah come on we're not going to take long so I pulled up on him and we're in the office just me and him we sit down and he said Dovan I've been hearing a lot of rumblings downtown town about this young Dolph case. Are you going to need me?

58:05And I looked him in his eye and told him, I said, need you for what? Like, I ain't had nothing to do with it. I told him the part I played as it relates to the music. And he was just like, you know, well, I just wanted to talk to you and see if we needed to get ahead of this thing. And I don't need to get ahead of nothing because I ain't had no parts in it. So, you know, from me being going through the legal system, you know, throughout my unfortunate drug career, I know I could tell that he was sent to do that. my attorney. Meaning the cops send him there? Because I was thinking like, oh, he just heard this rumor because he's so close to the justice system.

59:04I'm going to tell you, you know, the lawyers, that was one of the main reasons why I went and got an attorney from out of town. Everybody is like a buddy-buddy system. Everybody got a relationship. From the lawyers to the DAs, the prosecutors, they all eat lunch together. They play golf together, you know, and whatever else they do together. And so, you know, he was, in my opinion, sent by, you know, because I don't want to throw nobody under the bus, but he was sent by someone who had high interest in the Dolph case and the prosecution part of it from someone. So do you think that somebody essentially sent him to sniff out if you were guilty?

59:54He wanted him to try to just ascertain as much information as he could get? What I think the expectations were were that if if Massey say something to me about it in the beginning and they offer me a chance to get ahead of things that I will go ahead and basically cooperate, so to speak, and try to get immunity. That's what I was offered. In the beginning. Okay. So if you had said in that meeting. And he said do I have anything to worry about. And if you had said like listen. I'm going to keep it real. I paid them to go do this. How do you think that conversation would have went. You think he would have tried to basically like.

1:00:41Give you immunity to just spill the beans. On the other people. He had already told me that. You know that he had. Talked to someone and they said that if I. Knew what they wanted to hear. That they would give me immunity. But I didn't know what they wanted to hear. So there's no way that I could have got immunity, even if I wanted it. It's kind of a wild idea to give immunity to the guy who paid for it and directed it, but then prosecute the shooters. Because it wasn't even, listen, when I got indicted, they told me, like, we don't even want you. Like, I was just, I was a casualty of war. Right.

1:01:23Like, it wasn't me that they was concerned with. You know, they know I had no, like, the people that was invested in that case know that I had no personal beef with Dolph. Right. They know that. What it is, is they, to get what they, to reach their goal and to get what they want, they had to get in bed and believe the lies of a junkie pill addict that's saying and twisting everything they had. Four years to lay in a sail on 23 and 1 and twist things and make them sound good for the prosecution to try to free himself. When you said they said they didn't want you, who do you think they wanted? Juk and Gadi.

1:02:12Yeah, that's what everyone was saying. They were trying to use you to connect Juk and Gadi to the situation. But you can't use me to connect got it to nothing because I never had no relationship with got it. We ain't never rode to the store together. You know, ever. And just keeping it all the way, Jesus, I'm talking about like and this on my kids. The only time I can remember having a conversation with yo was over the phone years ago and he had the little rap group. I forget the name of them little niggas. I think one of his names was Chris or Chris style or something. But he had like a little rap group.

1:03:01But anyway, I had some words with one of his artists. And I think at the time it was about a young lady or girl. And I had said a few things or whatever. and I guess the artist had went back and said something and Gotti knew some people that I know and they reached out and put us on the phone. And this was before Gotti blew up, you know, or whatever the case may be. I think this was around the time, maybe right before he signed with Birdman or whatever the case. And he just reached out and was, you know, was asking me, you know, what was going on, you know, and, you know, could it be worked out or whatever.

1:03:43And of course it could. and we put it to bed. That was the only conversation that I ever had with this man, and that's on my kids. Yeah, because Cornelius, he basically said that you and Juke conspired together with$100 ,000, and I guess you were supposed to give out the money or whatever, but it was Juke's$100 ,000, and you were supposed to give it between him and Straight Drop. Y 'all was going to break it down, and you were supposed to walk away with$20 ,000. I'm going to tell you, I was just going to say that. You know what's so crazy? Just think about it. Anybody in their right mind, if you just sit back and analyze it.

1:04:21If I'm the mastermind, right, and I'm putting everything together, why the hell I got to ask you and drop for$10 ,000 apiece? If anything, I'm the one issuing the money out. And as long as I've been in the street, as long as I've been hustling, if it's a$100 ,000 play on a person like Dolph, I damn sure ain't agreeing to no$10 ,000 apiece.

1:04:50So that shit didn't even fit my character no way. So when you heard him saying that, what was you thinking like? It's a goofy. Just saying with anything that come to mind to try to free himself. That's just like the situation with Woo, with Paper Out Woo. It was a time when I overheard a conversation and his name came up. Me being the kind of person that I am and so, like I'm big on loyalty. Like, you know, that's like one of my pet peeves. Like, you know, I got a few dudes right now that I would have threw it all away for and enriched it all. Like with no hesitation. That I never deal with again.

1:05:45and that's because of the disloyalty and how they did the total opposite of what I would have done had they been in my shoes. And with that being said, I'm just so big. Even if I hadn't communicated with you in years, and this is related to Paper Row Wudad, you know me and Tang we had a relationship back in the day like we used to mob together every weekend to the clubs and so when it was a situation when Wu Dang came up one time I spoke on the fact that I don't even want to hear that I know his mom, I know his dad I don't want no part of that conversation and you got four years to take that and twist it and to make it sound like something so enticing to the prosecution and now you say that and now Wu looking at it like well damn I do know Quit do know my mom and daddy you know what I'm saying so I ain't think Quit was like that you know what I'm saying and he right because I'm not like that you know Wu know one of my daughters you know he got a they grew up in the same neighborhood and I would want Wu to treat her and protect her the same way he would expect me to around one of his kids or whatever so with that being said I wouldn't even cross Tang out to do nothing to his son so you know that's just Wu listening to a goofy, listening to a sucker.

1:07:35All right, so like for the fans listening to this, and they hearing Cornelius is basically snitching on himself, saying that he did do the shooting. But what incentive would he have to lie on you and say that you was supposed to break down$100 ,000 with him and Juke? Why throw that in there if there's no truth to it? To keep from getting a death penalty so he can go home soon. if that ain't incentive I don't know what it is like you can't come up with nothing more attractable than that like and right now his trial hasn't started yet or anything it ain't gonna be no trial he just testified in two yeah what he gonna testify on himself against himself it's over with it's over with he did his work you know what I'm saying so yeah he finna get his stamp and go do his time

1:08:32um I got I got more you loaded over there I got a lot so one of the things that did go viral so I guess after you got indicted or this was before you got indicted your daughter which is also a rapper she was killed in Memphis and people were trying to use they were trying to connect the doll situation to what happened to your daughter in Houston. Can you break down what happened to your knowledge? It ain't to my knowledge. I could just tell you the facts. When she got killed, I was there, I think, the next day. So that was my issue with Flocko. I think me and I text Adam about it a couple times or whatever.

1:09:27Prior to that, I never had an issue with him. My issue was that he was promoting the narrative that she was killed because of the CMG paper route or the issues that—or my involvement in the case. And I just didn't appreciate it because it just was so—and I look at Flocko like a credible blogger. You know, I don't look at him like no goofy to just wake up and just post shit just because for clickbait. Because there are people who just make shit up. Flacco's trying to get to the truth of the matter. But he had already stood out to you because throughout this whole Dolph thing, he was kind of at the forefront of reporting on a lot of shit.

1:10:08Yeah, because he was already covering on it. Yeah, yeah. And with that being said, in my opinion, in the hip-hop world, I think Flacco's word matters. Maybe that's the wrong word. I think people take him to be a credible blogger. and they probably look at a lot of the things that he says to be factual. And so when you're promoting this and when it's just totally false, it kind of, it ruled me the wrong way. You know what I'm saying? Like, because I'm thinking the flocko that I think that I know of did the necessary homework. Like, go get the police reports. Go get the statements. All of this shit is public record.

1:10:55And these little boys told everything. The dudes who were involved with killing her? Yeah, who got arrested. Was it six people charged? It was like six people, you know what I'm saying? A couple girls and everything. And it was just a robbery attempt. Man, they seen my daughter in the club, knew her drill was real, knew she was a close friend of Lil Uzi's, and they decided to follow her and to try and rob her. these little kids was from some part of Louisiana. They migrated to Texas after Katrina with their parents. You know what I'm saying? Ain't got no type of ties to paper route whatsoever.

1:11:38Little kids, like babies. I think one of them was maybe 17 or something. And they told everything from top to bottom. And you don't think that if these kids were contracted by paper route, and they done told every fucking thing else including their social security number backwards that they wouldn't tell on the people that hired them to do this like some shit just don't make no sense to me you know what I'm saying like and another thing if paper route had something to do with my daughter being killed I wouldn't even be here conducting this interview with you so you know that was my issue with it Do you think that Flocko knew the truth and was avoiding it because the title of like this dude's daughter got killed over a beep that he was involved in that?

1:12:31That's such a good title, such an engaging idea from the perspective of a media person. Do you think that he was like intentionally turning his head away from the evidence that would have disproved it? I think Flocko had and has the resources to go and confirm if something is true or not. I know, I feel like he know where to go to get the real story. I think he ignored doing it because the storyline that was in front of him was so attractive. And he like, to hell with the truth. Let me go with this. I think this is going to generate the most views. and so for you to run with that narrative just for some views yeah i was upset about it but even prior to that he had basically been labeling you the mastermind of all this right did you like that didn't bother you so much no that didn't bother me because you know like i said i mean for the most part i got alligator skin so and that's what the cops are saying so it's yeah yeah that's what the media he going off what the media was saying you know they they labeled me that you You know, so with that being said, it ain't like he invented that title for me.

1:13:44Yeah. You know, so, but when it comes to destiny, like, just don't do that. You know, don't run with this just because it sounds good. Like, you know, that shit just wasn't clear to me. Yeah, and I feel that. Do you feel like also maybe he's seen because people were confused by the post you made immediately, or maybe not immediately, but like a day or two after. but I think you went on Facebook and you kind of like said that it probably couldn't have happened. It wouldn't have happened if your daughter didn't look up to you in a way. So maybe people took that quote that you made on Facebook or that tweet or whatever.

1:14:21Have you ever went and checked out my daughter's music? Yeah, I've seen her music. You listen to what she be saying? Yeah. What's your judgment off of it? From the post, I can see you saying... No, what's your judgment off of her lyrics? As it relates to what type of person or individual she was. considering the fact that my daughter didn't flodge, she wasn't a goofy. So if you listen to her lyrics, what type of individual would you say she was? I feel like she was aware of what's going on in the streets. And for a female, you would say she might have been pretty active, I guess so to speak. Yeah.

1:14:56Yeah. Yeah. So with that being said. So that comment was basically. Because her side of the family, like she got a couple of uncles, I was like, her uncle Leslie, like, he ain't no, Leslie ain't no goofy, you know. Leslie been in the streets, you know, well, was in the streets, you know, before I was. But Leslie has never portrayed himself to be this hardcore gangster. He ain't no poodle, but he ain't never portrayed himself to be this hardcore gangster. And me either, for that matter. But I done been in situations where I either had to leave it all on the field or go home. And I choose to leave it all on the field.

1:15:49So I feel like she got, she like adopted those type of, you know, traits or whatever. And was attracted to that type of lifestyle from me or whatever, so to speak. And she said it in one of her songs. Like, it was something like, I don't even want to repeat what she said, but she'd do something like her dad. And I don't like highlighting, you know what I'm saying, and, you know, like, bragging off of those old war stories or nothing like that. So I don't even, really want to even repeat what she said. But, yeah, matter of fact, it was on the song that she did with her, Moochie Grape, you know, she was talking about me.

1:16:30and uh but yeah so that was the reason for that post like me apologizing for being the way I am I felt like if I was different maybe she wouldn't you know been attracted to certain things and felt like certain things were were cool or whatever what's the rumor or the story you can confirm more than I but did her step pops allegedly shoot you How did y 'all even have a beef? Because they saying that her dad shot you six times. Well, I was shot seven times. Seven times. I ain't come on no jumper to incriminate nobody. I don't know the statute of limitations. I ain't no lawyer. But what I will say, I was shot seven times.

1:17:22And it was an incident where a few months after that, he was shot six times. And he went on this parade saying that I was responsible for that. But there's neither here nor there. You don't respect that, I assume, since you wouldn't go out and say that he shot you. Yeah, I don't respect that. Even now, Like you taking credit for when I got shot or whatever. I ain't never said who shot me, especially on the Internet. I don't know who shot me. But I know when you got shot, you paraded around town and told everybody that I was responsible for it. And it wasn't true because I wouldn't do such a thing like that to somebody.

1:18:22what was y 'all relationship outside of so I guess he's from Memphis so y 'all had a relationship prior to him becoming your daughter's oh nah we didn't have a relationship I ain't no one more I think for the most part and you know I'm gonna say this Raymond no disrespect but I don't want this interview to be about you know what I'm saying about him you know whatever but to answer your question I didn't know him you know he was from a neighborhood that's close by my neighborhood basically the same neighborhoods and I think he did a little time or whatever so I didn't have any knowledge of him until he started dating my baby mom I mean how would you describe the way that you think about it in terms of just having a child and then seeing her come of age and ultimately kind of lose her life as a result of a culture and a world that, like, you know, you may have been partially responsible for her being kind of exposed to early on.

1:19:33Like, how do you wrestle with that in your own mind?

1:19:43You know, when I was younger growing up, you know, It's almost like the same situation with me and my dad, how my dad was like he was married to the streets. You know, I think I got her mom pregnant maybe when I was 16, 17 or something. So, you know, I ain't know the first steps of being a father at that point. I was still young or whatever the case may be. and so with that being said, you know, I wasn't necessarily in her life, especially when she was younger. When she got older, you know, it was moments and things like that when we would, you know, spend time together or whatever, you know. You know, especially like when she got into certain situations, you know, she would call me first or whatever when she went to college.

1:20:39She had the incident when she went to jail, and I went and bonded out of jail and all of that. So it's like maybe if I would have been there when she was younger, but I can't say that she would have turned out different because I still was in the street. She still was going to see me, her dad, no matter what I tell her. You know, if she still see me doing the total opposite, then how much good does it do? It's just like with my 15-year-old, you know, whenever I'm around him, I can't let him see me smoke marijuana if I'm telling him you can't smoke it. You know, I just don't do it, you know. It just don't feel right.

1:21:37or whatever so you know just you know just trying to be a better father or whatever so to speak i guess for sure um okay uh you know one name that i was just curious about asking about since he was so involved with this stuff historically he's like did you ever have a relationship with black youngster did you know him particularly well no no we never met i don't him. You know, I just know he from the city and he knew he was close to a good friend of mine that's deceased now, King Fish. And so Youngster looked up to him. Youngster actually from the same street that Fish from, McMillan. But no, we never met.

1:22:29because when you look back to that time period when the the gati and doff beef was like really kind of starting to play out online and stuff it is kind of crazy to look back on it and think that you have yo gati who's traditionally always been pretty tight-lipped pretty quiet about beef and everything and then all of a sudden he's got this new artist who is just acting a fool doing all the craziest shit pulling up to people's neighborhoods making instagram videos etc all this stuff that you don't see anybody associated with cmg doing that stuff you don't really see a lot of rappers besides like you know more underground guys doing that type of shit in general these days just because i think people are a little bit more aware of how much the cops are watching them on social media and everything but um yeah looking back on that does that seem like a crazy chapter in uh memphis history especially because i i have had people suggest to me that black young is no longer associated with CMG and he might have took it out of his bio on Instagram and stuff.

1:23:27I seen something, somebody post something on his, saying that he scrubbed his social media or CMG or whatever. You know, I think you can kind of compare that to maybe the same way with me and Flip. You know, I'm sure him and Yoko go through their ups and downs or whatever, but I'm sure Youngster know at the end of the day that Gotti changed his life. And I'm sure he got a great deal of respect for yo, or whatever the case may be. As far as Gotti being, for the most part, laid back and out of the way to go sign Youngster, I don't think it was nothing out of the norm. Just because Gotti moved how he moved, he's still from the environment.

1:24:20And he's still from there, you know. He got that element about himself. You know, he just moved like a boss, you know what I'm saying, a CEO. But, I mean, technically, Youngster, I mean, he ain't the only fool over there. You know, ESTG, he a fool in his own right. You know, G get busy, you know. So, you know, he just ain't funny with it like Youngster. Yeah. The Youngster era was very entertaining. It's hard not to pay attention to all that shit. But yeah, I mean, we'll probably never see another beef play out as like cartoonishly as that. Like in terms of some like real life people losing their lives and shit type beef.

1:25:06I mean, that shit just sort of stands out to me as like, damn, that was a wild era. Kind of like that early Chicago drill era where everybody was just documenting all their beefing and all that shit. That was when I first started, you know, them dissing the dead and all of that when I first got on that drill culture. But, yeah, youngster, he'll lie wide to say it in a good way, you know what I'm saying, or whatever. But he's been playing it pretty low for what I see for the most part lately, anyway. Yeah, you ain't really seen him pop out and say it too much correctly. Yeah, yeah, me neither, yeah.

1:25:38Where were you at when you heard the news that Jook had passed away? And how did it affect you? I think I think I was riding down the street I got a call and I just was like damn you know I hated it for Big Daddy you know

1:26:04I hate that for anybody that I know you know it was crazy you know but you know it's just the street You know what I'm saying? You got to move how you're supposed to move. Don't slip what goes. Because he was at a funeral and he was taking a smoke break? Yeah, he was at a repass, you know, when they're going to celebrate life or whatever. Went outside to take a smoke break.

1:26:37And there it was. You did say something that stood out to me. you said the streets already know who did it, but you feel like Memphis police ain't really taking initiative on that case. Why do you think they ain't really moving this quick? I mean, you know, they, for whatever reason, you know, I guess they just had a, their interest just peaked in certain cases, you know, certain situations that they may not have a personal interest in for whatever reason, you know. Young Dog's wife went on record to say that our DA requested that she endorse his campaign. So maybe that's part of the reason. I don't know.

1:27:28I can't sit here and say that about them, but maybe so. I don't know why they take the initiative to go through all of their resources for certain cases, and then there's certain ones that they just let just be. I can't speak on why, but I just don't understand, though, if the streets know how they don't. Yeah, I mean, I can think of examples with other street situations where, like, everybody knows. Like, we've all seen a video of a certain rapper who's basically involved in an attempted murder that turned into his homie getting murdered, et cetera, And it's like everybody on the street knows and the cops haven't arrested the person.

1:28:12And sometimes it's just they take their sweet ass time or I guess it just takes a long time to put together cases and shit. I don't know. I done seen some things so blatant on the Internet where you look at it and you'd be like, man, this shit was in Memphis. They had subbed in jail. Yeah. You know, like, just say for instance, the Julio Fulios shit with him and Young and H. Now, if that same shit was in Memphis, Tennessee, they'd have been in jail. You know, you're going to people graves and, you know what I'm saying, making songs about how you killed the whole car. And, you know what I'm saying, with three people in the car and all of that and bragging on it.

1:28:56ain't no way the prosecution would have been sloving at the mouth and dying. It feels like down South, the attitude is like, if you're doing something that we clearly think is wrong, we're going to arrest you and we're going to figure out how to prosecute you. Whereas in a lot of like big cities, East coast, West coast type cities, the attitude is more like, it's so hard to make charges stick to people that why would we even arrest the criminals and the gang members? because we're going to have such a hard time putting a case on them. We need to wait until we have everything by the letter, every last detail so that we can try to prosecute somebody, which is like down South just feels like a totally different energy.

1:29:38I mean, I agree because, you know, like a couple of lawyers in my situation, they said, you know, you have a, the DAs have a legal, they're supposed to have like a legal obligation to not move forward with cases that they know or feel like that they can't prove, you know, because you're just creating a prejudice for the defendant for no reason. You're just taking them through a hardship. And that's what my attorney was pretty much saying. Like, you know, they just basically derailed my whole life based off of the lives of a P.O. junkie, you know. And so, you know, that being said, that's why we got to where we was at, and, you know, it is what it is.

1:30:33Do you think if Jook wouldn't have been killed, they would have tried to charge him too? They were definitely actively trying to charge Big Jook when he was killed. Yes, they were. They just wanted it on a higher scale. What do you mean by that? Federal. Oh, word. That's what you... Yeah. That's what you heard? It ain't what I heard. It's what I know. Do you think the feds are still working on charging other people in Memphis for stuff? Related to this case? Yeah. There's nobody left to charge. Yeah, right. There ain't nobody left to charge. I mean, who they gonna charge? I mean, there ain't nobody to charge.

1:31:20What was your moments like sitting in that courtroom waiting for that judge to read out your verdict of you being found guilty or not guilty? Walk us through that day knowing that you might get sentenced or you could be possibly sentenced for life. The night prior was rough.

1:31:41I had a couple negative people in my ear you know just like a couple of the homeboys man ain't no way I'm walking in there to my heart man you crazy as hell you gonna walk back in there and let them folks say guilty and handcuff you man you gotta make them do their job they were telling you to go on the run yeah yeah the day before the verdict as soon as they started deliberating I had a couple partners you know and they was like man you tougher than me man you nuts man like Paul Bunyan ain't no way I'm going there tomorrow yeah this shit they'll have another news story quit on the run cause mind you you're out for the people who don't know you're out on bond yeah I'm out on bond and it was like a$90 ,000 bond $90 ,000 bond yeah and so you know I ended up talking to my brother and uh And I just decided to, man, just go on in there, you know.

1:32:39So running was an option for a little bit. Nah, I wasn't going to say it was an option. It was funny. I was listening to my partner, Don Calvi, you know what I'm saying. Man, I ain't running all this time. You know, I ain't finished. You know what I'm saying, you know. But you think about the what ifs. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, you know. But with that being said, you know, just going through, I mean, if you go back to the first day of jury selection when I signed the deal for the 10 years. Doll family rejected it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they rejected it. You know, I didn't want to do that.

1:33:20I didn't want to sign the deal for the 10 years, you know. But it's like my attorney, Manny, he got a lawyer friend from Memphis named Leslie Ballin. And Leslie worked on a case with him before. Might have been with Pac-Man Jones or somebody. But he came in the room and he was like, Govan, you ever been to my office? And I said, no, Leslie ain't never been to your office. He said, well, I got a pair of dice on my table. And he said, sometimes me and my colleagues, you know, we play dice. And sometimes we'll gamble a little bit. Not nothing major. He said, but when we do gamble, you know one thing that I don't gamble?

1:34:09I said, what's that, Mr. Ballin? He said, nothing that I can't afford to lose. He said, Govan, you got a son, two sons that love you to death. You can't afford to lose your life. Take the 10 years. And so when he said that just me being in the streets, it made sense to me. You know, I play with my life. Why, you know, risk everything. If I can't do three and a half, four more years, then I should have been a deacon. To me, I was kind of surprised when I first heard you say that in the Vlad interview, just because from my perspective, it's like if you really didn't do it and you really don't feel like they have any really truly convincing information that they're going to bring to the table i don't know i mean i understand like wanting to eliminate the chance of doing like a really extremely long sentence or getting you know many many decades but shit i don't know it's just so so hard for me to imagine pleading guilty for something that i didn't do see you know i was looking at it from know the big picture, you know.

1:35:21With all the media coverage, negative media coverage, everybody saying on the mastermind, I felt like it was going to be hard for any normal person to put that to the back of their mind and say, let me give my verdict based off of what's in front of me. So that was one of my biggest fears and one of the main reasons why I decided to sign for the 10 years. Because I just thought that the media coverage had like a major negative effect on my case and had me like handicapped, so to speak. So I just wasn't at that point, you know, and then my lawyer, Manny, you know, Manny Aurora, he the whole time, Manny was like, well, we're going all the way.

1:36:20You know, I mean, he like at the end of the day, you know, you make the decisions. But if I'm in your shoes, are we going all the way? All the way up until maybe a few days before trial. and I told him about a conversation that I had with my son, that conversation kind of made Manny change his tune a little bit because he has an autistic son as well. But the conversation that I had was with my 15-year-old, not my autistic son. And he was just like, you know, based off of the evidence that they had, if I lost and lose my life, you know, and be gone from my son, he was just like, you don't know.

1:37:15He just said it would have affected him as well, you know, and he said he probably wasn't able to practice law anymore after that. And when he said that, you know, it kind of made me feel like, you know, he really invested and he really cared about me, you know, my son. and just knew that he was a genuine person for him to even say that, you know. Because he asked me, he was like, go ahead, can you do some more time? I said, depending on how much it is, yeah, I can do it. And so when we came with the 10, I just felt like it was the best thing to do. I did it, and they took it to the family, and they said no.

1:38:01So here I am. It wasn't meant. I mean, it's got to be a crazy feeling for them because they almost had the person who's the mastermind allegedly behind their guy's death doing 10 years. And then instead, you're out here doing podcasts. Their miscalculation there seems pretty intense. And so I also wonder, like, do you think that they unanimously agree that you're guilty? That's like 100 percent the feelings everybody associated with P.R.E. think that you're the dude, too? No, I can't say everybody because I've had conversations with people that's associated with paper route. They know me and know me personally, and they know that I wouldn't do something like that.

1:38:48They know I've always been a hustler. I had$10 ,000 in high school. So for me to agree to$10 ,000 to take the life of someone as talented and famous as young Dolph would be diabolical, ludicrous. Now, if you said a million or a couple million or something, then maybe we might have something to talk about. But$10 ,000? I can go and ask a friend for that. like I don't have many friends but I got a couple of them that in dire need they would do it so why would I go and try to take this man's life they got kids of his own and it just ain't me yeah I mean we probably all kind of have a ballpark idea of like what people could get paid for murders it's like ten thousand dollars is so not worth the percentage chance that you get caught it's not worth the danger that you're putting yourself into in that situation because obviously he's with people with guns that are going to shoot back at you or whatever i mean just in general it's like if you want to make 10 grand i mean especially somebody like you who's got a street acumen i'm sure you could think of 10 different ways to make 10 grand that would be infinitely less risky.

1:40:10And, you know, and when they came from Cornelius, you got to judge it off a lot of the other lies that he told. Like, example, in my trial, when the lady that's like his grandmother testified and took the stand. If you notice, when she took the stand, she said a lot of great things about Cornelius, about him helping her at the store with groceries and all of this. A lot of good things. But when she was asked about, when he said that she received$800 and a note from someone related to Justin or associated with Justin after the murder. And he testified to this on the stand. And it's in discovery.

1:41:03this lady who has no dog in this fight, no interest, no interest at all, said that that didn't happen. I don't know this lady. Never met her one day in my life. And so when she was asked about this, and for her to say that she's fed Cornelius gave him shelter before during the course of knowing him over 40, 30 some years. If he said that she received$800 in a note, he a damn lie. So here it is. We about to possibly send someone to jail for the rest of their natural life based off of the words. of him and he would lie on this old lady like his grandmother and involve her in this dangerous case all because of his part of his lie for him to try to come home.

1:42:10Not knowing that these people or I was going to hire private investigators like Quantrill Fletcher, that was my private investigator. like and for them to go and dig and find out if these crazy things he's saying are true or not so he didn't think that far and so you know that should kind of put it more in perspective of what kind of person we're dealing with if you allow an old lady like that that's like your grandmother and involve her in something like this for no reason at all that's just crazy to me how did you feel did you know Straight Draw a brother in advance or Jamarcus? nah nah nah nah I never met him never seen him matter of fact before the case I never knew that he had a brother I know he got a brother by his mom but I think that brother there that testified against him I think they got the same dad so I never knew of him never heard of him a day before in my life so it wouldn't have been a surprise for him to testify no it wouldn't from the kind of person that I heard he is it's not surprising from what I hear he was a good kid good person working type of young dude or whatever the case may be so when you involve them kind of people like that in street shit that's what happens they do what regular citizens do so how'd you actually feel when you heard the not guilty being read out?

1:43:53I mean, it was just a relief out of my main, you know, leading up to that, prior to that, to kind of go back to Remo question, it's a feeling that I wouldn't wish on nobody. You know what I'm saying? Like, man, I done been through, man, Adam, I done been shot seven times. I done been in all type but shootouts growing up in the Orange Mound community. You name it, I done seen it. I've been through it all. And that feeling right there, it's one thing to be waiting on a verdict, and you could possibly get sentenced to eight years, ten years. But when you're waiting on a verdict, and the rest of your natural life on the line, it's a whole different beast.

1:44:44You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to have some. And that's just like, shout out to WAC. You know what I'm saying? Like, WAC, I heard someone online, and WAC was actually taking up for me, surprisingly. You know, WAC was like, you know, y 'all sitting up saying, you know, he a rat or an informant, but he just dropped his nuts and went all the way to trial the whole way. like you can't line you can line 10 more niggas up and probably 8 of them took their tail and signed for whatever on the table I went all the way if I wanted the easy route I could have testified against straight drop and went home like that was an option for me I could have did that and got probation I held my nuts and went to trial So, you know, some of the shit they say just goofed out.

1:45:47I mean, what was the logic by which they were calling you a snitch? I mean, maybe it's based off of, and that's a great question, Adam. So I was in federal prison before, right? And it's a certain TV personality. The other day he showed something online where it was like, well, my name was attached to some paperwork of a guy named Terrence Yarbrough. And that is true. And what happened with that is, see, what they do is they tell you half the story. to try to make it seem, you know, favorable or sound good or whatever. They don't tell you the fact that he was a child m****ster. Well, I ain't going to say child m****ster.

1:46:45He pimped out underage girls. And they not going to say that I made a phone call for him on my phone as a favor, like how we do in the blocks. They can't get through to their people. You know what I'm saying? hey bro make a three-way call for me I make the three-way call for you just so happened they are already listening to my phone calls thinking that I'm going to be calling Fish my brother Big Baby or whatever the case may be and when they hear me make this call for him and he get on my phone and call his sister and get to saying erase the files out the computers all the underage girls and all of this shit.

1:47:35And then a few weeks later, they reached out to my attorney, the sex crime police. And he told me when I call home that he wanted me to call. So when I called, he told me that they reached out. And I'm like, reached out to you for what? I don't deal with no sex crimes. And he was like, calm down. It ain't about you. so when it was brought to my attention what it was about it was about the phone call that I made they played the whole phone call and there was some things that was said on there that I don't think no male in this room would have said especially about underage kids and I said that ain't me and they said well we know it's not you we just wanted to hear what you had to say but from the perspective of the law if it took place on your phone it's a fine line right yeah they feel like you officiated this phone call who said that you weren't basically standing right there listening or who said it's not you changing your voice oh sure yeah you know i'm saying so they had to clarify it yeah and at the time i was indicted for a gun and uh i think i had some marijuana in my pocket.

1:48:53It's a 924G and a 922C. They gave me, they was offering me 15 apiece, 30 years. And when they said that if I made a statement, basically saying that that wasn't me on that phone call saying inappropriate things about underage kids, that that would help me out tremendously. Now you go find me well maybe there's another stupid ass nigga around here that he's so real that he gonna say yeah that was me on that phone call talking about underage kids. I mean go find me one. You might can find one but it ain't me. So that's where the whole snitching that you did or cooperating quote unquote that you did was basically just saying that wasn't my voice on the phone out here exactly nothing for the I didn't testify at his trial or none of that that alone me clarifying that that wasn't me on their phone call turned my 30 years to 5 so you know Ben knew about it It ain't no secret.

1:50:23I stand on it. I ain't no nigga gonna do nothing about it. And it is what it is. Yeah, I mean, it feels like that's snitching accusation culture gone too far, if that's gonna be the kind of thing that people are taking issues with. Yeah, I know one thing, like, I ain't him. I ain't that real. I ain't finna say, yeah, that was me on the phone. Yeah, so you got me fucked up. For sure. whoever don't like it so I mean just in general even before the verdict came out you're dealing with the fact that you are now essentially a celebrity especially in Memphis but really kind of country wide as well after like your whole life you were basically you know doing your thing without having a ton of eyeballs on you once you get not guilty then all of a sudden it's like there's opportunities for you.

1:51:19Had you been thinking about that before? You just 100 % focused on the case? And was it strange making the decision to start doing interviews and 20 versus ones and things? Well, I knew it was going to be, if I say that I wasn't aware that it was going to be some opportunities out there, I'd be lying. Right. One, I had already been communicating with Vlad during the case. Two, me and Brick Baby had already been chopping it up. Oh, really? Yeah. From prison? Or before he got locked up? Before he got locked up. Yeah, this one, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was, this one he was running with Sharp.

1:51:54Sharp. Yeah, Sharp. Got it. Yeah, him and Sharp was in Vegas and shit a lot. So me and Brick, we was chopping it up and he was like, man, yeah, man, we got to get you down on no jumper and woo-woo-woo and all of that, you know. So, yeah, I was aware that there was some opportunities out there for me. And what person going to turn that down, you know, considering everything that I went through yeah it's kind of like a a little bit of a reward tour a little bit of a victory lap to be able to like have all these people interested in you even though it's funny because like 20 versus 1 is basically like a dating show and the idea of like taking someone who's you know just beat a high profile murder I mean honestly the woody thing got me accustomed to whatever.

1:52:43So this fool told, took the stand and just talked super crazy, spun the whole trial. After I saw that, I'm like, alright, anything goes now. But it's like, as it relates to Woody, though, as far as him telling, you still gotta give Woody his props, though. Oh, yeah. Nobody ever told as good as him. Man, you crazy. As the full picture. I mean, I look at it like this, you know, Woody had his reasons for doing whatever he did in the beginning. But Woody's so much of a good dude and got a good heart. Like, he couldn't see himself being the reason that Thug went to jail for the rest of his life. That's just the kind of person Woody is.

1:53:31When Woody was on that stand saying, I don't recall, I don't recall, Woody ain't retarded at all. You know what I'm saying? I have long in-depth conversations with Woody. You know what I'm saying? Woody, we pray together. You know what I'm saying? All of that. Good dude. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I just feel like he, you know, he get a bad rap, so to speak, you know, with a lot of people or whatever. Because at the end of the day, whatever happened in the beginning of the case happened. But they don't speak on the fact that he the reason that them is free. they don't speak on it you know what I'm saying they always gonna talk negative about him and what happened in the beginning but speak on the fact that he did what a lot of this wouldn't have did he came back stood on business played like he was retarded as a mother and freed everybody

1:54:30definitely not a strategy that anybody would have been able to predict we didn't even know that the legal system could operate in such a way yeah but I mean okay just as long as we're talking about the Woody thing what's your perspective on all of the recordings that have come out of Thug and his interrogation tape and all this it feels like hip-hop is kind of split between whether he deserves the snitch reputation or not at this point man I think if Thug was a rat the whole Atlanta would be in jail that's just my personal opinion I think Thug said some things. See, a lot of niggas that's speaking on this ain't never been on 23 and one like we have.

1:55:14When you locked in a cell 23 hours a day and you get one hour, and some days you might not even get the one if they short-staffed. You know, I think Thug was just on the phone with his girl, just vengeance, saying things like, example, like the shit he said about Glorilla. Yeah. Like, anybody look at glow. Ain't nothing ugly about glow. You know what I'm saying? You know, does Thug have a certain standard of women that he probably date? I'm sure, yeah. You know, exotic women or whatever. But I'm sure he probably was just, you know, just talking. You know, she was new in the game, and she probably wasn't as beautiful then as she is now or whatever.

1:56:01Maybe that's what he meant to say. She has had a glow up. Yeah, definitely. For sure. I mean, when you get money, money make you look better. You know, that's with anybody, you know. For sure. And so, but she was never ugly, you know. She just added the money to it, and it's just kind of like enhanced certain things, you know. So, yeah, but as far as, you know, thug or whatever, you know, I just think like the issue with him and baby, you know, the issue with him and a lot of his peers and friends, you know, it seems like they kind of like unfollowing them and things like that or whatever, you know.

1:56:39Some of this shit I think is kind of being blown out of proportion, especially like with Baby. When he called Baby lame on the phone. You know, saying, wait, no way I'm lame ass when he was trying to put the album out. You know how many partners that I'll die for I done called lame? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Some of it is getting blown out of proportion. You can read between it. Yeah, like I could be waiting on one of my homeboys come pick me up if he take it too long. Man, ho ass, dick lame ass. I love him to death though. You know what I'm saying? And if Thug don't love nobody, you know he love Wham.

1:57:10You know, so, yeah, I just think, you know, he's just getting a bad shake on, you know. We haven't seen like a lot of the people that he says shit about really like react to it besides QCP who's kind of the most extreme example and it's also like the person that thug might have said the most extreme shit about because you know dirt can't be too mad about thug being frustrated about not getting a verse right away or even with future it's kind of like he did call him like a dumb parted ass dude or some shit but he was but yeah he was given his judgment on future having all these kids out of wedlock and shit which if you really homies you probably should be telling your homie that like you don't need to keep nothing and all these girls and stuff.

1:57:55I didn't feel like that was that extreme but for QCP to realize that Thug and other people were talking about him and calling him a snitch behind the scenes that's probably the one that's not gonna just go away. Yeah and it's like but when you look at Thug though just damn baby what was baby a little partner named little Steve one used to be with baby all the time and And, you know, Thug exposed him being a rat. And so Thug done always stood on the rat, the no snitching shit or whatever. So me, if Thug is who he say he is, I don't think that's the first time that he's mentioned to Baby how he feels about Pete or whatever.

1:58:46For all we know, Baby might agree because Baby's locked in a contract. you don't really get to have an opinion. Exactly. You know, baby, you know, because baby, quote unquote, he don't deal with Red Sea. And he don't follow QCP no more. So we kind of see that him and QC. That's serious. See, now I ain't know that. That's music to my ears. They don't follow each other on social media anymore. You know, so, you know, but, but why now? I mean, you been knew P cooperated, you know, and I don't know P personally, you know, or whatever the case may be, but. But, I mean, if that paperwork, what they are showing is true, because I do know they have doctored paperwork, AI, a mother in our generation now.

1:59:29But if that paperwork is true in the interview that I seen, that the victim's done, and all that is true, then, yeah, P told. Part of the crazy shit, too, is Thug just saying, everybody in Atlanta been knowing about that. it's new he goes Jay-Z might not have known until then but everybody about Pete's talent allegedly yeah I mean they say it's old they say it's some old shit you know what I'm saying you know or whatever but like Pete say though Pete said he ain't no street dude he said he a citizen and from what Wack 100 say you know the same shit that apply to street niggas don't apply to citizens so if that's what Pete labeled himself as then you know he shouldn't be He'll tell to the same, I guess, standards, so to speak, or whatever.

2:00:18Maybe he's just a regular square dude that made the right investment in hip-hop. And, you know, it is what it is. You think Thug could be calling Gunna a rat if he kind of on there saying, yo, I'll take my number down, I'll holler at you, just don't tell the world. And then Gunna did the same kind of drossness shit where he was like, yes, man, what's the difference to you? But bro, you got to look at it like this. Like Thug say, signing that piece of paper could have got him life. You know what I'm saying? It's different. Like, he stood up in court and said, Thug and I'm trying to label YSL as a label.

2:01:04Label. Hip-hop. You stood up in court and said there was a gang. and I ain't saying what Gunna did is right or wrong because it ain't my bidding to be speaking on Gunna like I don't know the man or nothing like that you know but if it was one of mine my homeboy how they was together every day then I would have rolled that shit out with Thug you know what I'm saying like you know like Thug said I don't know if he was trying to get to the girl and then maybe picking him up or what but you know I would have rolled it out with him, especially knowing that they ain't got nothing on Gunna. That's the crazy part.

2:01:43Nothing. You know, the only thing they had on him was one rap line or some shit he said in a lyric or something. Man, ride that shit out. You been partying and all the beautiful women in the world. It's time to take a break. Yeah, I think the thug interview made Gunna look a little selfish. I think we all looked at Gunna like, damn. Yeah, just look at Yacht them and all of them. You don't think, you know what kind of deal they offer yet? To say Thug did and ordered this and ordered that. I know Thug and Yak ain't cool now, but, you know, Yak held it down for the most part. I know the interview kind of looked crazy.

2:02:23He did. See, that's the weird thing about the standard for snitching is that it's like you can be the best guy in the world 99 % of the time, but if one time you sat down and said the wrong thing, one wrong sentence to a cop or during an interrogation room or whatever, then that's going to be enough for them to basically permanently write you off. And even in the case of like the trial, you've got examples of certain people who might've said, I'm down to tell. And then the rest of their behavior didn't really tell that story. And it's just like, it's just like with the, you can even say Rallo.

2:02:58Do I think Rallo a rat? No. What I think Rallo did was try to finesse the system. And what we call in the federal system is getting the feds to time back to him. And I think that's what he tried. I think he tried to run a play. You know, they do it all the time. You know, sometimes it go right, sometimes it don't. Or whatever. But, and that's another thing. if Rollo was a rat, I think a lot of niggas in Atlanta would be in jail. You know, so, you know, I just think, man, you know, they got a lot of goofy shit going on. Young Thug, he said some things in an interrogation or whatever, but did nobody get locked up behind it or whatever, you know.

2:03:44And like Thug said, you know, he told him and Rollo was going back and forth. He said, you know, I tried to free my man. You tried to fry yours. You know what I'm saying? You know, and I ain't saying that's what Rollo did, but you know, yeah, I don't think Doug was saying nothing intending to try to incarcerate nobody, but see you go back to the old days and to the old heads like, you know, in the old law you know, like the conversation that that's being had in the interrogation room, like, it wasn't even supposed to get that far. You know, like, in the old days, the real gangsters and can we talk to you?

2:04:23Call my lawyer. And ain't nothing else to be said after that. You wouldn't even get to the interrogation room. How can you get to the interrogation room without agreeing to go? You know, so it's different, you know, versus back then and now. Yeah, I mean, even like the thug interrogation apparently took place when he was just walking through the mall. He got pulled aside into the back room for like causing a disturbance or some shit and then he chose to just talk like just tell him all kinds of shit now his excuse is i didn't actually give him anything that that got anyone arrested or convicted for anything and if you really kind of drill down into most of his statements it's like okay you're saying that pb roscoe was holding wayne's drugs like all right that's not really like that crazy or they're not fitting to go back they can't go back and yeah you know i'm saying like that old goofy shit definitely not what's that a misdemeanor yeah definitely not the thing that like the average person is thinking of in terms of what you're supposed to be quiet with the cops or about like if you're just talking to him for hours and hours in general you can't really blame people for you know how much real street shit that thug probably know about that he could have told them people if he was really a rat all of us I mean really all of us if we had a gun to our head we could probably cough up a lot of stuff man listen if I was really me if I was really I've been running with real street dudes street cats my whole life Yeah.

2:05:50We done done, like, I got people, individuals that love me like cooked food because they know that we done done everything it is up under the sun, and I done been in those situations. I just was in one. You know, I could have did and said some horrible things about people that I grew up with and that I got a relationship with, but I ain't go that route. You know, I took it on myself, and I chose not to put none of my friends or any of that in jail just because I was in a jam. So all the young golf fans who even know you beat the trial and you beat the case and they still going to run with the narrative, I think this nigga guilty.

2:06:38I think he did it. Where the 100K at? Is it a thing for you to prove, or do you care for them to know that you're innocent, or you're just going to let them believe what they believe? Like, how is it, how important is it for them to know? In the world that we live in now, with the trolls and all of that, I mean, I don't care, I guess, you know, because the internet is just the internet, you know. Like, I guess you could say, like, with the Wu situation. I care about that to a certain extent. Not that it's about Wu, doesn't it? Because he... Wu is a little kid to me. I got kids his age. You know what I'm saying?

2:07:25It's about the respect that I got for his mom and his dad. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, so with that being said, you know, things like that matter to me. Because if the shoe was on the other foot, I wouldn't want his mom or his dad to bring no harm to one of my kids. but far as like some fans feeling how they feel about me about this shit you know it's like get in line like people been hating me my whole life ain't never bothered me ain't never had no type of negative effect on me because i'm gonna do what i want to do go where i want to go i pulled up to no jumper today by myself this is true you don't see no gang with me no crew or none of that.

2:08:14I ain't never need I ain't affiliated. I ain't no cripple blood. I'm me. Like I ain't never needed no to hold my neck. It's like I'm what you see and like across from you. But you're probably somebody who moves around very selectively and intelligently in Memphis I would think right? LA is a different place. Yeah yeah yeah for sure you know or whatever you know I mean but even when I'm in Memphis now like I was just live the other day. You can go check my YouTube out by myself. Look at store, wherever, wherever, wherever I want to go. Like I, I haven't been the narrative that I've been dodging and hiding is, and what I'm about to say, now my lawyer, probably going to be mad at me.

2:08:59When I was on house arrest, I wouldn't on house arrest. I wouldn't hide. I was doing things that I wasn't supposed to do. I ain't never. And when I say that, I'm saying as far as like, I might go get a bite to eat or, you know, or something like that. If I need some clothes or something real quick, go shopping. I wasn't supposed to be doing them little things. You know, if I would have got caught, it might have been trouble. And when I say got caught, I'm talking about like, about a judge or something like that or whatever the case may be. I ain't been doing no hiding. I don't move around with the military in Memphis.

2:09:37You know, I move how I'm supposed to move. And it's dead on it, you know, but definitely not hiding. But you got to know that it's probably some niggas that's in Memphis looking to run into you, though, right? Like, do you feel that aspect of it, too? It's some niggas in Memphis that's looking to run into me. It's kind of hard for me to agree with that because it's like, it's a lot of niggas in Memphis that dislike me. But as far as itching to have a collision with me, that ain't something that I would strongly advise. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't saying I'm the toughest or nothing like that, but who want to see a train wreck?

2:10:29No, I don't. You know what I'm saying? If I could do anything about it. and if you really really really wanted to find me I mean you can and if somebody wants to do something to you I mean I'm sure from your perspective it's like wait until they run into you is one way to do it or they could you know they could they could wait around for you like you you know how a really serious dude would go about doing it and it's not like there's a timeline on get back or whatever like they could wait an extended period of time to do something for you, but ultimately, like, you going to the mall is probably not going to be the thing that causes this to boil over.

2:11:08Because if they really wanted to do it, they could probably figure out how to go about it. I mean, you get niggas in Chicago. How many shootings do you know of in Chicago when they go to court and they lead court and get killed? Yeah, a lot. Here, too. Yeah. More like fighting. You actually get to see gang members fight out here. My court dates, every last one of my court dates was advertised. on TV.

2:11:34I could have easily been found. Like I said, I just seen three Paper Route associates a couple weeks ago. Was Kenny one of them? No, I'm talking about Kenny Money, a rapper. I'm talking about who done put their blood, sweat, and tears in the Paper Route. It's from Castaia. You know what I'm saying? is their own shit in Castile. Like, they got actual paper route chains. And I seen them, and every last one of them shook my hand. Because they know me as a person, you know. Do they know what I did last summer? No, they don't. But me as an overall person, they know me. And the quick that they know that I wouldn't conspire to kill someone for$10 ,000.

2:12:28especially someone that ain't done shit to me they know that so what's up with you and Kenny cause I seen you you was on I think your page recently and you said that you had a video you can miss anything I try to keep up as good as I can but like uh I guess you said you got a video of him and TZ getting into it and you was gonna leak it yeah you know man and it's crazy like All right. What made you even want to, he said something about you? Subliminally. You know what I'm saying? Because I didn't catch him. On here? No, no, no, no. I don't hear, you know, and I ain't even check his entire interview.

2:13:06I don't hear, I've seen some of it, but he made a post. And it was like either the same day or the next day after my not guilty verdict. You know what I'm saying? And it was like a disappointment that I beat the case. and for one, I took offense to some of the things that he said in the post. Two, I'm looking like, okay, so let's say you that invested and Dolph was your homeboy, your guy, you know what I'm saying, and you're going to ride and slide for him. Why would you want me in jail? I did see the post. So basically he kind of said like Memphis, the city failed. Yeah, failed, let him down.

2:13:46So all right, so you feel like, all right, if you, you know what I'm saying, if you're going to stand on that, then he should want it in the streets anyway. Yeah, it's contradicting what you say on your music. I feel you. So that was the post that made you go to that part. Yeah, exactly. And prior to that, I had no issue with the little homie. Like, you know, you know what I'm saying? Want to see him shine, get his money, do his music or whatever. We don't even know each other like that to have an issue. So with that being said, that was my response because I witnessed the fight. I seen it, you know, when him and Teezy fought about Teezy girl.

2:14:21You know, and Mike Tyson lost, he don't make any money, you know what I'm saying, less of a person or whatever. I just was letting him know, though, you know what I'm saying. He was just reminding him, hey, quit playing with me. Like, for real, for real. Like, you know, I ain't got no issue with you, but I don't mind trolling with you. Like, we can do this shit. You know what I'm saying? Do you feel like, uh, the city of Memphis let Dolph down? With the straw?

2:14:48I don't because the two people responsible for being in jail were the two people that's allegedly responsible for being in jail for quite some time so if you look at it like that nah I don't feel like they they doffed down what was the alright so you and Charleston White been going back and forth we ain't gotta talk on it too much but one of the things I did see him say that I was like what he paid someone $3 ,000 to go to your daughter's gravesite and leave a bottle of piss? Man, if you believe it, then I taught Adam how to do this podcast shit. Man, look. Definitely sounds like something he would say, but not actually do.

2:15:32Exactly. Definitely, come on, you know, he'll say some... This Charleston we're talking about here. But, no, when I seen it, I definitely did the dashboard. And went to the... Yeah, I went. And nothing was there? Nothing, you know. And, you know, I can't speak too much on that situation, but if that would have happened, Charleston would have had it recorded, and it would have been great content for him. You know, bad content, you know, considering what it's about. To the world. You know what I'm saying, or whatever. But, you know, I'm going to say this and I'm going to leave that alone. I think Charleston, a lot of the stuff he does is character.

2:16:27And it's crazy what I'm about to say. A lot of people wouldn't even expect for me to say this. But some of the things that he say when he get to saying things about kids and stuff, I really don't think he mean it. I just really think he's just being character. your heart can't be like that, and you're still being successful. I don't think God would allow a person to be as successful as he is, knowing that his heart is riding like that. So I think he knows what to say to create content and to make people come to his channel or whatever, but this is the same person that was saying that he was doing, he wanted to do charity work in the beginning for kids and to help kids.

2:17:22But that type of work don't move the internet. You know what I'm saying? What move the internet is when you come on there, HBCU, the kids. Yeah. I was just watching them the other day, like going off on this crazy rant about nipsey and talking about nipsey and his kids and his girl and all this shit and i'm just watching it like like i'm all about people saying edgy controversial things that other people aren't willing to say someone who's a real truth teller who's gonna just say some shit that nobody else feels comfortable saying i love that this is not that this is just like dumb theatrical talking shit about somebody it doesn't feel believable to me it just feels like you're following this playbook of oh if i dis nipsey then people are going to pay attention to me so i'm going to say nipsey a bunch of times but there's just there was no meat to it there's nothing that really made me feel like you meant it it just felt corny it's just like when we had the back and forth when i said some things that would happen if um he did what he said he was gonna do you know i came back and i made another video and kind of like recanted and apologized to his mom or whatever for some of the things that I may have insinuated because to involve someone else, you know, family members, let alone kids, you know, it's crazy, you know, and to each his own, but to speak on what Vlad was just saying about the Nipsey and all of that, it's just some things I couldn't stomach to do.

2:19:00Or say, you know, or whatever, you know, especially since Nipsey gone and he did and all of that. You know, Charleston, I think one day, I don't know how long it'll be, but I think maybe some years ahead, Charleston's going to come back and laugh at everybody and tell everybody how he tricked everybody. You know what I'm saying? Because ain't no way he could feel like that about kids. Just ain't no way. yeah and when people try to like kind of press them to explain themselves in interviews usually i'm kind of left just feeling like nah this is just this is just stupid yeah yeah yeah for sure for sure you got anything you want to hit before we uh tap flocco in on this no let's tap flocco in i'm not gonna see what flocco got flocco just gave me some gang Flacco bullshit.

2:19:50Flacco bullshit. You got to, man. 22-ster. What's up, G? I need these phones on. To hear them good, probably. Man, listen, man. Just chilling, man. So, Flacco, just to state the obvious, you've made hundreds of thousands of dollars off of smearing our friend here's name. Let's talk about it. hell nah hell nah listen man man listen man I made a silver nickel Bobby Ruto listen I don't think I slandered now again I will say this though I was wrong about the stuff that we can't talk about now I was wrong and for that bro I do apologize for me bro it had nothing to do with the murder in Houston you feel me and for that, you feel me, and I was 100 % wrong, you feel me?

2:20:48But at that time, bro, shit, bro, like, bro, listen, man, things happen just way too fast, and folks got to speculate, and you feel me? So for that, I was 100 % wrong, you feel me, for even doing, like, a video trying to implicate this man in some shit that he had nothing to do with. For that, I was wrong, you feel me? Now, the Dolph shit, I'll be real, bro. I feel like Quet is one of the savviest criminals I think we've ever came across in hip-hop media ever, right? Fam, listen, how do you catch a man for murder and if the plot was, hey, come to the crib, we talk about it, and don't speak about it again until the murder is done?

2:21:31Shit like that is almost impossible to catch, especially if the prosecutors are nimwits. but for anybody to sit here and say that quiet had nothing to do with it you're out of your mind I mean that's just another one of your dumbass opinions I guess so to speak and what you have a right to you know you wasn't there you going off what you see and before you came on this I guess what this would be considered a live or a zoom or some shit Yeah. Before you came on here, I think I made a statement to Remo and Adam. Flocko, I've been in the streets a long time. Yeah. And how old are you, Flocko? Me, I'm 28 right now.

2:22:21Oh, you're 28. Oh, okay. I'm 45, so when I first got in the streets, I don't even know if you thought about shit, but with that being said, it ain't no way in hell I'm going to go on a drill. or conspire and plan a drill and agree to park the car across the street from my house. Like, some shit just don't make no sense, Flacco. Like, you got to stop going with what look good for clickbait and what's attractive to sit down. I think you are intelligent enough and smart enough to be able to dissect certain things and make sense out of it. Like, you may not be a savage street guy or criminal or whatever it was you just characterized me as, but I think you got enough sense that where if you decide to go on a drill you're not going to park the homicide car across the street from your house.

2:23:21Man, hell nah. Look, bro, like, that assumption will be us making the assumption that street niggas are smart. Street niggas are stupid, right? Again, you was not on the drill. Straight drop and Cornelius was. Those the nincompoops. Those the idiots. They were the ones who parked the vehicle, right? So after, I don't mean to cut you out. So after they parked the vehicle, and let's say I did play and conspire or whatever, right? Yeah, of course. So when I realized that the, in your words, nincompoops parked the car over there. Yeah. Do you know how many resources that I have if I wanted to, how fast I could have got that car moved?

2:24:05How? Man, I got at least 10 different partners with tow trucks that would have came and moved them off for me at the drop of a dime. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, pause. Again, this is where we go back to again. if you're saying, hey, how could you think that I'm dumb enough to park this car here? Then I'll ask you, how can you think that somebody is stupid enough to take a legal business and come help tow a murder vehicle away and jeopardize their legal business and everything they got going on and be an accessory to murder after the fact? And I'm saying is this, if there are people stupid enough to jeopardize their entire business doing that, then why wouldn't we think that you're dumb enough So say, damn, bro, like, I can't drive this motherfucker out of here because I'm not dumb enough to hop in a murder vehicle and drive it away.

2:25:01And if you're trying to get a legal business to tow it away, then they're idiots, too, right? So hence, if you're saying there are people stupid enough to tow it away, then why can I say there are criminals stupid enough who would shoot somebody in broad daylight? They'll be dumb enough to park a vehicle there. But here, though, right? So the question for you, right? No, I agree with you. It is some individuals that are stupid enough to park the car across the street from because we're talking about them. But you're not conversating with an individual that's stupid enough to allow that to happen.

2:25:40Agree to that at all. No way, shape, form, or fashion. I have a question for you, bro. Go ahead. So you said that you and Dolph was on good terms before his death. That's not what I said. What I said was is that over the years, throughout the course of being in the streets and hustling, me and Dolph have did business together as it relates to marijuana in the streets. We were never best friends. We never woke up and called each other to see how the other person was doing or any of that. if we ever had a conversation and met up, it was solely about marijuana and we maybe stayed around each other five minutes at most.

2:26:28No, sure. But before Dolph death, was you and Dolph at least on a cordial high and bi basis? If you would have seen each other, if we see if I, before his death, if I seen Dolph and we were in the same space, then yeah, we would speak. Yeah. Cool. All right. Cool. We would have spoke. because we didn't it was never a situation where I can't think of after the last time I met him on night on and that was years ago like you know how long Dolph been getting money and so he ain't been in the streets like that for a minute so with that being said after that we were never in a space where but it was never an issue or a situation where if we did see each other that we wouldn't at least acknowledge each other.

2:27:24Sure. And that right there will say y 'all was on some type of, again, rather as best friends or not, y 'all was cool. Right? Because, again, if I see somebody who I don't like, we not speaking, right? Like we would have to be somewhat cool or on some type of friendly basis to where if I see you, we would dap up and shake hands and speak, right? So y 'all was cool. Yeah, we definitely, again, your definition of cool and my definition of cool might be different. Sure. So my cool, just because I know you and we may have had a few transactions in the past or whatever, I would say, you know, we was, you know, I guess cordial, so to speak, maybe, you know.

2:28:17my definition of cool is well I guess to a certain extent you could say that in all fairness to you you know what I'm saying like yeah you know what I'm saying if we seen each other we had no reason at all not to speak so what's your relationship with us COTZ COTZ is deceased no sure but like prior to him dying And was y 'all some unk and nephew shit? Was y 'all day-to-day partners? What was your relationship with CEO Teasy?

2:29:00Prior to him getting killed, I was out on bond. And so, of course, I wasn't communicating with no individual, nobody related to the case at that point. huh? No, wait though. Sure. You're saying before Dolph got killed. No, listen. Sure, but again, being out on bond really has nothing to do with the question. What was your relationship, right? Was y 'all really... It has a lot to do with the question because when I was out on bond, I couldn't associate with anybody of the sort if I wanted to. Conditions of the bond. No, hey, listen. sure thing but if i seem to answer your question if i seen if i seen teasy somewhere while i was out on board prior to his death then yeah me and teasy could have had the same conversation that we've had previously we just wasn't in communication because of everything that was going on i didn't care to communicate uh with him uh you know there's a lot of things that were done a lot of things that were said, a lot of things happened, and things change.

2:30:16I think you're downplaying your connection to TZ for a reason. For example, TZ often posted that you are his OG. You are one of the people that he trusts the most. TZ even said— You know what year that was? He posted that. That was in 2016 when I was going to turn myself into federal prison. sure sure wait wait again things happen over time no no no wait though hey wait wait though sure thing but y 'all was at least close enough to where bro tz is spam posting about you talking about man listen man when when quick come home i'm gonna toss him the keys for 2020 bands you feel me so he had that much respect and y 'all was that locked in to where i don't feel like bro coming home and not speaking for a few months, bro, is gonna, like, say, hey, like, we're not as close.

2:31:11No, y 'all were still very close, right? Like, that was little bro. How can that be my little bro when his name was on the witness list? Huh? Hondo, you heard me. I said, how can that be my little bro if his name was on the witness list? And he betrayed you, cool, but prior to you knowing he betrayed you, that was somebody that broke. You don't know how long. You want a strong friendship with you. You don't know how long I knew his name was. You don't know how long I knew that or how long I knew that information. You don't know. It's several reasons. A lot of things that TZ may or may have not done to make, to make me put distance between or to make me not reach out to him when I got out on, when I got out on bond, when I got out on bond, I wouldn't, I wouldn't jump in at the opportunity or hanging with no motherfucker that might put me in a situation to violate my bond.

2:32:05Go ahead. Wait, here. No, I'm talking about before Young Dogs, for example. I just asked you that. If you're talking about before Young Dogs, then that was my little bro. Yeah, for sure. Facts, cool. Y 'all was locked in, right? Yeah, that was the little homie, yeah. Alright, cool. What was your connection to D-Money and J-Money? I mean, we all grew up in Orange Mound together. They were younger, a lot younger. I know their parents, got respect for their parents. I don't know how it is in your community growing up, but the younger kids, they kind of look up to the older guys with the nice cars and the hustlers and things like that.

2:32:57So D-Money and J-Money were very close friends with my nephew, Jacquez. And that's where basically I think the closeness of the, I guess, relationship, so to speak, because they were best friends with my nephew, Jacquez. Man, facts. And you and his mom was close, right? Me and whose mom? And D-Money and J-Money's mom. Yes, Michelle. Yeah, that's like my place. Yeah, for sure. Man, facts. Cool. And then how close was you and Straight Drop? I mean, Straight Drop was the little homie. Sure. And he was signed to you at some point, or you all was in business, right? No, he was never signed to me. We were just trying to put something together, trying to put a deal together, a music deal or whatever.

2:33:55where me and my brother would get a certain percentage for investing, you know, in the tablet or whatever. In fact, right? Cool. And based on post and based on everything that we know, everybody around you absolutely detested young Dolph. Teasy posted how much he hated Dolph. Straight Drop posted how much he hated Dolph. Kamecia, right? Can you show me the post from Dropping Teasy? wait though right wait though i'm waiting look wait though right so look right look kamecia hated golf right and that was your place i don't i don't i don't i don't think i don't think i don't think uh michelle hated golf i think and i can't i don't think i can i don't think she hate him and i can't speak for her what i think you are talking about is see you you you you you you starting to piss me out because you speaking on some things that you have no knowledge of because you from wherever you from and you don't know what's going on in the Orange Mound area.

2:35:04Her son, Jay Money, was on the front line for Dolph and did whatever he did for Dolph, protected him, whatever, et cetera. Sure. So when her son get killed and these same dudes, these rich millionaires get the pump faking and tucking their tails and hiding and not answering their phone when it's time to bury her son, then of course she going to feel some way. Would you? But it extends beyond that, though. Yes. How do you know what it extends beyond? Sure. She said it. so again she says where you from where you from Flocko now we're going to wait but where are you from please answer that born in Liberia moved to North Dakota moved to Philly moved to North Dakota so I'm back and forth right you feel me I don't believe none of it what you just said I ain't no way you was born in Liberia but go ahead Flocko no no but the look though no but the look listen though she publicly posted that she believed that young Dolph was in business with Big Unc.

2:36:18And she posted that she believed that Big Unc was responsible for D-Money's death. Now, if you are a mother and you believe that young Dolph is signing or doing business with a man who she believes is responsible for her son's death, whatever she's expressing, her dislike, her distaste, or her hatred for Dolph, it extends past man Dolphin picking up his phone for an offender no she believed that this man betrayed her son Jay Money because Jay Money was protecting Dolph she believed that Dolph owed that family something and Dolph did wrong so now I'm saying whether she believed that or not what you're saying I can't sit up here and tell you that what you're saying is not accurate Flocko what I can tell you is that Michelle is a working lady and no matter how she feels or disgruntled about whatever she's not finna take the initiative to get in street business and try to have multi-millionaires killed but what I'm saying is even though she's a working lady and I'm the gangster she still would have to suggest that or advise me and she's not that type.

2:37:42She can be upset. She can be upset about somebody shorthanding her son or she could be upset about Dolph signing someone that may or may not have did something to D-Money or whatever but for you to sit up here and to try to create a theory like this lady advised me or asked me or anybody else for that matter to do something to Dolph, then you ain't, that ain't, that ain't cool. That's another one of yours. Well, here's what we know, though, Quet, okay? So, here's what we know so far, okay? Okay, go ahead. So, again, common sense will tell us that if your play sister, somebody who you going over to have dinners and lunch with, if that play sister hates a man so much because that man is in business or signing the man who killed her son.

2:38:33She didn't hate, Dolph. She disliked what he did. Straight drop your audience. She disliked what he did. She did like what he did. Again, Joe Paysaysta hated that man. I don't believe you see that man and shaking his hand. So I do believe this. Me and Dolph was cordial and cool. That's a lie. Straight Drop. Your artist hated Dolph. So I'm saying... What was Drop's reason for hating Dolph? Again, all I can say is it sounds like Drop is true or mafia and true or mafia turned on Dolph after the D-Money and J-Money shit. Again, that's my theory. But again, no, that don't matter though. The theory is everybody around you hated Dolph.

2:39:18Everybody around you had a reason why they wanted to go after Dolph. It doesn't make sense for you to now say all my partners hated Dolph, but I'm the nigga who was cool with Dolph and I would shake Dolph hand in. How could y 'all think that I would do this? No, your play sister wanted him gone. Straight drop wanted him See, that's what we're not finna do. You're sitting up there saying that Michelle wanted Dolph dead. You're not finna do that. And I ain't finna sit here on this interview with you and listen to you say that you don't... You don't know her personally. You know what I'm saying? She was celebrating when he passed away.

2:39:52Show it to me. Let me see it. Yeah, I do. Show me the celebration. Hey, watch real quick. You already said I'm getting overtime anyway, so we cool. Take your time. No, no, no. Right here. Look, I'm about to go to my Young Dolph documentary. Again, it's one of the best documentaries to ever get dropped. You feel me? Check it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know it is. All the damn clickbait, isn't it? This really was like the story that he kind of like made his name on YouTube with. Yeah, for sure. For sure. He's kind of gone on to cover a wide variety of things, but this was like his first time getting a million views.

2:40:28Yeah, that's why he's so invested in it. Yeah, for sure. about it. Wait, pause. Come on now, bro. I'm not that invested. You're so invested. You know what other people are thinking in their mind. That's how invested you are. You're making up words and statements and shit for people and you're in their mind. You're a psychologist. She was very upset at Dolph, man. I got to go to my documentary. I was not expecting him to deny not seeing her post about the one second

2:41:10I could cool and I ain't saying it didn't happen I just want you to show me I ain't never seen it I said I'm not saying that it didn't happen it just would surprise me she don't she don't strike me as to be the kind of person that would go and celebrate Young Dawes Delf I wait. I look right. Look, right. Look. So, uh, pound pound says long live J money. He would have had these streets crying about golf. And she responded back with a skull emoji with the dad, right? It says, um, he so didn't make them cry about him. Shrug emoji. That show somebody who clearly at that point, man, don't give a fuck about Dolph.

2:41:57Not next. Look, look, look, look, look. Look. And then Pow Pow says, damn, Shao? Because he's even taken aback by her shrug. It's like, hey, he's dead, so what? I don't give a fuck. So then she says, yup, the Uncle Danny who he just signed, right? So, again, and she's telling Pow Pow, Dolph just signed that nigga who killed D-Money. So I'm saying, bro, your play sister... What I'm saying is you still haven't shown me the post where she celebrated Doss Dill. Niggas, niggas, it's right there, bro. Again. Was it a celebration? Did y 'all just hear a celebration? Bro, that's it right there. Did y 'all just hear a celebration?

2:42:41Did you... Be honest, Remo. I know that's your coworker. Be honest, Remo. Keep it G. Listen, bro. Thank you. Remo just said he hasn't seen a celebration. I said it. You the only person on here You just took that as a celebration. Is this Facebook or Twitter? What was she posting on this one? It's Facebook. If somebody say, yo, long live Dolph, and she responded back with shrugging emojis. Like, yeah. What she responded back saying was, what you just read verbatim was, was that somebody said that J Money would have had the streets like bleeding about Dolph if he was here, right? She responded and said, She responded and said that Dolph didn't do the same thing for J Money.

2:43:29She had a skull emoji. What kind of emoji? What part of that is her celebrating young Dolph's death? The skull emoji and the shrug emoji. That's not a celebration. You know they got celebration emojis on social media, right? Confetti. If she wanted to celebrate. Listen, pause. I'll be real bro the shrug emoji sound listen that's more like ambivalent that's more like she don't give a she don't care you said celebrating you said celebrating that's what you said if someone says long live Dolph and you say bro you don't like this man you fine cool past that bro why do everybody around you hate young Dolph but you the better question is what reason would I have to hate young Dolph I'm a grown ass man I don't be involved in little kids beef.

2:44:24And I damn sure ain't no motherfucking rapper. Because your play sister. I don't give a fuck about what nobody else. We talking about me. We ain't talking about no play sister. We ain't talking about no drop. We ain't talking about nobody else but me. I'm a grown ass man. And can't nobody put no battery in my back. And make me feel how they want me to feel. By you being a regular square. A motherfucking mic can put a battery in your back. and drive you and make you feel how you want to, how they want you to feel. But not me. I'm 45 years of age. I make my own motherfucking decisions and can't nobody tell me how to feel about nobody else.

2:45:00You chose to kill Dolph. You said what now? And you chose to kill Dolph. We understand what I'm saying. Listen, don't do this interview saying I had no reason to do it when I just showed you your play sister didn't fuck with him. Everybody at Rousey Rousey did. You know what? You had to go to You had to go to school for psychology because you just intentionally trying to say things to trigger me. And you want to put this shit on your channel so your channel can go viral. I ain't finna be a part of it. Just don't lie and say me and Dolph was cool before his death. What you mean lie? I know Daddy O.

2:45:38I know the leader of Paper Route. You can go ask Daddy O. Get him on the interview. I'm sure you got access to it. He'll tell you. I ain't got to tell you. you a clown from Liberia like you said that don't know shit that's going on in Orange Mound get somebody from the other side ask them go ask daddy yo the leader of paper route is what I'm saying is true and we can put an end to this flocco I ain't got to keep going back and forth with you and then you just have surgery yeah you shouldn't be arguing with me going back and forth with me over some shit that you have no fucking knowledge of you going off of the you are internet and you're going off of the internet you don't know No, it ain't no facts.

2:46:16You ain't in nobody else's mind. You ain't in nobody else's head. You ain't in nobody else's head. You got something else you want to talk about because this is becoming redundant. Go ahead, I'm listening. Go ahead. Yeah, facts. So, again, just to wrap up my theory here. Okay. It's impossible for you to say, y 'all can't figure out why I would want to do something to Dolphin when we were cool, when we just named everybody around you, including your play sister, who hated that man to the point, right, who hated that man because she believed that he signed her son's killer. Where you was over her crib daily eating that good goblin.

2:46:53Okay, how do you know? How do you know I was over there daily or once or twice to get a plate? How do you know that? Tell me that. How do you know? Because I made a post one day saying that I was coming to get a plate. How do you know? How does that equate to daily? How does that equate to daily? Daily. How does that equate to going over there daily versus once or twice to get a plate? Because technically speaking, I've only been over. Now, let me get now. Let me finish. Technically speaking, I've only been over Shell's house about three or four times out of my whole life. That ain't daily. That goes back to the point that you don't know shit about what goes on in Orange Mound.

2:47:33You only going off of what you see on the Internet. that you a internet nigga and this internet shit done got you in several situations where niggas done came up here niggas came up to no jumper man we ain't gonna do that we ain't gonna do that flocko I ain't saying you ain't no gangster I ain't saying I know you I know you the toughest worker in no jumper I know that I know that yeah I'm ducking your smoke all well no problem with you flocko I got you all no problem with you but you done lost a little weight though you might be in my weight class right now though It's just the beginning. Oh, yeah.

2:48:08See, I want him winning y 'all. He'll do it when he's down to my side. I'll tell you his ass. Go ahead. Listen, bro. I'll be real, bro. Bro, you knew to show up at No Jumper when I was gone. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, God. Okay, so I got the schedule. I got the schedule. I know when you was going to get the lap band. I'll be real how the hell do I know that I'll be real bro when you was in LA I called Setti I said bro bro where he at boy Setti was ducking me how the f*** you gonna call Setti how you gonna call somebody that's hiding from me stop it bro stop it bro that was a play though I don't know what you talking about I don't play with niggas on the internet Nah, that was a play.

2:49:02Well, see, that's another one of your theories. But listen, Abel, check this out, though. Listen, slow down. You said I came to no jumper today because you wasn't here, right? Duck in the smoke, Quack. Okay, duck in the smoke. All right, well, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to try to make it my best to create some more content to get Adam and Remo to want me back. And you make sure you have your big fat ass here when I come. I'm going to leave that, though, Quack. from you too small, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, for sure, yeah, you probably gonna be some Canelo versus Buzz shit when I get back, because you seem like you losing rapidly.

2:49:42And I'm happy for you, though, for real shit. But yeah, I'll be back, though. Hopefully, I'll be back. And then if you want to get that issue, hey, look, I just, it's so much just a pool table out there. It's so much fucking room. Ain't no space in there out there. And if I, listen, no, hold on. If I let your big slow ass beat me in a fight, then I will not be allowed to get back on a plane and go back to Orange Mound. A nigga like you couldn't beat me doing nothing but eating Twinkies. I'll be real to quit. I will smack the fire at you, my nigga. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, why you ain't smack the shit out of that nigga that spit on you?

2:50:20That's Adam, nigga. Why you ain't smack that nigga that spit on you? Why you ain't smack that nigga that spit on you, though? Hey, let a nigga spit on me. I bet they have CNN up at this motherfucker. Who spit on me? Let a nigga spit on me. I bet they have CNN up here. No nigga spit on me and not die, my nigga. Listen, that's count. No nigga spit on me and not die. Did somebody sit across from him and spit? He said it didn't touch him. But did somebody spit, though? No matter where I go, where I'm from, no matter if it touched you, if a nigga even do it. Library. I'm from Liberia. I moved to North Dakota and then I'm back.

2:51:00I'm gonna lie to Quack I'm gonna lie to Quack Pure ear spanking you boys bro Who is you boys I'm not CMG I'm not CMG I'm not CMG I'm not CMG Huh Look at you over there you're trying to think of some shit to say to trigger me Man I don't care nothing about that goof ass Shit you talking about man Hold on up Quack Doctor's advice you do not supposed to be doing You do not supposed to be doing and that shit you just had surgery this morning. TZ called you every day on Facebook. TZ died. Why you in slide jet for TZ? Hey, we're going to get you in a Tubi movie, boy, the way you sitting over there acting.

2:51:39Before the cameras and shit came on, you weren't like this, Flocko. Flocko, you was just so nice and humble. You was so nice and humble. Huh? You was so nice and humble before the cameras came on. You was a buster. I'll be real. Hey, listen. Now, hey, look. Why did you let Adam schedule this? Ain't no way in hell if I was working for Adam, I would have let Adam schedule me when I wasn't at work. Man, Adam would have had to fire me. Adam would have had to fire me. Hey, because I ain't scared? Why your homies? Why ain't hiding? Why ain't hiding, though? I see you in the car with the windows and the folio, nigga, hiding.

2:52:27You just said you a gangster right? No no did you just say you was a gangster? Answer the question answer the question Flacco did you just say you were a gangster? Man What are the skullets for? What are the skullets for? Huh? What are the skullets for? What are they used for? Again Quack answer the question what are the score what are they used for to hide and what else and what else to hide and what else to hide use a goofy if you don't know the answer to that question if you can't if you can't logically or legitimately answer that question you either a goofy or you don't want to say that other reason because you know it's more than one reason why this being what why this being worn you not doing that yeah yeah okay but okay so how So how do you know?

2:53:19Huh? How do you know? Because you podcasting. You not sliding. You definitely right. I for sure ain't sliding. I ain't doing no slide. I ain't doing none of this shit. I'm podcasting. I ain't on nothing. Hey, listen. I ain't in tour with nobody. I ain't trying to slide. I ain't slid. I ain't seen a gun since Martin Luther King got shot. Or none of that. I don't want no trouble. I'm the softest nigga around, bro. I got a$5 ,000 bet for you, Quet. A$5 ,000 bet. Okay, what's your bet? If you go live in Memphis for 30 minutes, I'll give you 30 times. Listen, go live in Memphis. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

2:53:58Okay, listen. Okay, listen. Okay, this is what we all do. This is what we all do. Come on. Okay, listen. I want you to. Okay, put your. You believe in Christ, God, right? No. You don't. You don't believe in God? No, God, yeah. Yes. Okay, okay, all right. I want you to swear to God that you're going to send your$5 ,000 to Adam and I'm going to send my$5 ,000 to Adam and I'm going to go immediately, as soon as I get back to Memphis I'm going to go live for 30 minutes hanging out the sunroof Hey, no, no, no I will be the escrow Standing on the block He's already trying to hide Out the sunroof Nah, nah, nah Nah, nah Nah, bro.

2:54:45Where you want him at, Fleco? Go outside at Makita's Cookies. Go outside at Makita's Cookies for 30 minutes. You see how that sounds? Even you say, ah. That's not, man. Come on. Yeah, that's the shit a goofy will say. That's the shit a goofy will say. See, only a goofy, lame would say, go stand at Makita's Cookies. Man, ain't the only reason. Bro, he said out the sunroof. He's trying to hide in the vehicle and drive off. Okay, well, I tell you, okay. All right, now, listen. Now, you're just trying to backpail on the bed. This is what we're going to do. We're going to rearrange this shit just for you.

2:55:18So when I get back, you're going to send your$5 ,000 to Adam. I'm going to send Adam five. I'm going to go on my block for 30 minutes and go live. We got to bet. Yes. Outside for 30 minutes. Outside for 30 minutes. We got to bet. Say no more. Hey, listen. That's the easiest. I just did it the other day, you damn idiot. Go on my YouTube channel Matter of fact it was 40 minutes 40 minutes Listen bro We ain't gotta do the back and forth Matter of fact I got a video on my channel right now for 40 minutes I really already won But I'm gonna go do this shit again Just to show your goofy ass Just to show your goofy ass Peace out folks Peace out Adam Jeez How do I leave this bitch

2:56:15that was more conversational than I expected it to be I thought he was going to be chilling especially with the way it started yeah yeah yeah I knew it was going it needed to go viral baby yeah I knew it did that man yeah for sure for sure hell yeah that was a good one I mean he he challenged you he said you already got the lob but you said you finna do it again man you think I ain't gonna get that fine He wants Adam tell me That he has received 5 ,000 from Flocko Oh yeah I'm sending mine immediately I'm on his ass Flocko We need that deposit I'm on him too I'm gonna see this I'm gonna earn interest on it In the meantime Flocko ain't gonna do Nothing of the sort man Yo That's crazy bro I can't wait Yeah that's a good interview though Adam I like that That was fun Yeah For sure I like it Appreciate you coming up What uh Okay Where Where do you feel like Your story goes from here Like what do you interested in putting your time into and what new opportunities have arisen as a result of all this attention?

2:57:15I'm talking to someone in particular about a book doing a book about everything about my life and how it kind of overlapped into the young dog shit and all of that shit you know what I'm saying and so that's basically it you know I've been talking to a couple people about you know possible documentary shit like that you know what I'm saying anything outside of it dead just regular little podcast really nothing too much you know what I'm saying you enjoyed the 20 vs 1 I mean it was it was it was different you know what I'm saying it wasn't the business was ugly oh really it seemed like they set them chicks up to ask you some of them questions they were asking on there right yeah of course every 20 vs 1 has got some pre-planning.

2:58:09Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. But I'm going to keep it all the way G, though. If he did, he didn't tell me. You know what I'm saying? It was raw, you know what I'm saying? So that's why I sort of laughed at the one chick when she was like, what happened to the$100 ,000? I'm like, man, they don't hear. Yeah, I wasn't expecting that. I didn't expect that one off the rip. She's like, where the$100 ,000 at? But off camera, though, she was cool, though. You know what I'm saying? Or whatever the case may be. So, yeah, it was a different experience. So, yeah, yeah. He got a lot of backlash for that, too, because he put some of the Young Dolph clips and stuff in the middle of the 20 V1.

2:58:48And a lot of the Dolph fans and family and stuff was like, you know, they don't have an issue with him doing his content. And then his caption, he even said something about Young Dolph in the caption. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So they didn't really, they weren't really rocking with this. so he had to re-edit it and even put it back out. Oh shit, okay. Damn, alright. Let's end this on a positive note. What do you think is something that could probably slow down some of the violence going on in Memphis and maybe prevent some of this shit from happening?

2:59:25If you get, well, if Goddy and Dolph could have came together prior to this, like someone was trying to get done, And to clear that up, it wasn't Zach Randolph. Because then you said an NBA player. What NBA player was it? I can't give his name up because I rock with him. And he ain't on nothing negative, you know what I'm saying? But it definitely wasn't Z-Bow, you know. I'll say this. It was a positive person. And he got a lot of stuff going on, so I don't even want to, like, associate his name with no type of hip-hop beef for divs and all of that or whatever, but it definitely wasn't Z-Bo. What's the genre to do job you're having?

3:00:14Stan G over there? Yeah, are you going to box him? Yeah. I was texting you, asking you to put it together. Yeah, I feel like I'm kind of not going to take on the boxing promoter challenge. I should, honestly. Yeah, you should because I remember I was telling you how profitable it could be. You know what I'm saying? Me kicking Stan G is. I mean, like, I mean, we could just, you know, if he gets some money from somewhere, some sponsors, we can really just do it in here in no jump. Should we not believe the words that come out of Stan G's mouth? Do you think he's a cap artist?

3:00:50And, man, anytime, this is the same dude that go on there and say that he the biggest. But I got messages of you and my manager's DM right now, big in the work. But you the biggest. this the same dude that said that I was in federal prison with stupid Duke when I was just on bond this the same dude that just come to the internet and just say so much BS that it just don't even make sense like it's the same dude that was on Mari like I can't believe I'm at a point in my life where I'm actually even discussing a nigga that was on Mari. Like, and he just, you know, like, as far as knowing him from the city, never heard of him, never seen him in the trenches, never did nothing, he, you know.

3:02:03I mean, so, with that being said, believe in something. I mean, he do it to himself. I mean, he done put out several things about me that was just blatantly false. You know, like, you sit up and say I'm in federal prison and I call you two minutes later. And then I ask you, why? Why would you say that? And he said, because the streets told him. Who the hell is the streets? You know what I'm saying? Stan G's in his own streets, man. Yeah, yeah, he's in his own, definitely. I heard it. I heard he ain't in Las Vegas streets no more. I heard he living in Georgia and like some little projects or something.

3:02:46Oh, I wonder. With a young lady. That's a good thing about clubhouses, though. You can do it anywhere. Yeah, you can't see the background. Did you happen to see that background video when he OD'd? I did see. I don't know if he's ODing, but I've seen a clip of him fucked up on drugs, wilding out. So if that wasn't ODing, what would you call that? Being on a Sikh one? Oh, okay. But I know the Mexicans might call it out here. Yeah, but their background, though, could you live in something like that? I don't know. I mean, when you're smoked out, you just might end up in some smoked out places. You can't be picky.

3:03:27What did they say? Smoked out, loked out? Yeah, that's that old 36, I think. Yeah, yeah. It's great. For sure. All right. Thank you so much for your time, man. Man, most definitely, man. I appreciate y 'all for having me, man. For sure, for sure. Great conversation. I know you and Flock are going to have an interesting link up one of these days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most definitely, man. I hope y 'all bring me back and make sure I hang on vacation. Ooh, I like that idea. All right. Appreciate you, man. For sure, most definitely. Hernandez, much love. Thank you for your time. Remo, appreciate you, man.

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