Huge J Cole Drama, No Jumper Hosts Are Beefing, More Nicki Minaj Backlash

38:34He's the Mr. Doing Burpees fucking programming at the park. That's more like I'm expressing the culture that I come from. That's more cultural. Yeah, if it's an ode to it or not, it doesn't matter. That is the same thing as Drake doing one dance and speaking with Patois. For sure. Because he's from fucking Toronto and there's a lot of Caribbean people. That is the same thing as him rapping on chopped and screwed samples because he has family in Memphis, you feel me, in Houston. You know what I'm saying? Or We Got Balls in West End, too. Yeah, exactly. So you're saying Kendrick's a fake gangster?

39:10No. It's not that then. It's not that then. You won't say that because you know what the fuck I'm talking about. No, exactly. You know he really lives this shit, and that's the shit that he's kicking to the people. If anything, no. His whole image that he's personifying is, quote, unquote, what's the name of his breakthrough album? Good Kid, Mad City. Yes, there was. I come from this violent environment. There is beautiful aspects of the culture that I grew up in, but there's a lot of violence that is the accent. And that's the dot of the exclamation mark of the statement that I'm making. He's not personifying a gangster image.

39:39Say that then. Say it on the mic. He's a fake gangster. Say that he's not who he claims to be. No one's saying that, though. No one's saying that. He's not a fake gangster. Because you know what the fuck it is. What are you talking about? Because you guys know what the fuck it is. No, no, no. That's a man man who used to fucking be with the West Sides and the Fruit Town. He's not a fake gangster He's not a fake gangster He's downplaying his gangster shit if anything He's downplaying it He's downplaying it It's the total opposite of what you're saying No it's exactly the same thing So when you apply those kind of street rules To a battle and to another man Where you understand the laws of the jungle It fucking We're not doing entertainment anymore When we see each other it's gonna be a fucking problem with fucking drake being mad that j cole ranked it because they're talking about burning off tattoos that's clearly what the fuck happened you can't just be like oh this is just some rap shit oh it's just entertainment oh it's just the fucking sport no it's not yes a lot of hip-hop yes spill over into some yes and that's why and when you start calling someone out of their name say you're gonna burn off tattoos on this other shit and j cole's like yo i don't want to be a part of this fucking it's a move to pull someone down when you're doing that you're pulling them down with you, bro.

40:53That's why there's no crying in baseball. There's no crying in baseball. He's acting like Gina Davis. He's acting like Gina Davis. He's being a bitch. There's no crying in baseball, bro. There's no crying in baseball. Why the fuck you gonna rank it? You can't make a diss track and then take it down. You said that shit. Stand off business. Like I said, like I was getting to before your fucking 90 degree left field turn into fucking heavy. Absurdity. Absurdity. Complete absurdity. You wouldn't call out Kendrick's gangster. So it made total fucking sense. It has nothing to do with Kendrick's gangster, though.

41:33Somebody programming at the park don't have nothing to do with you being gangster. It's not your fault. Just like me. All my cousins have been to jail. And that they fucking programmed my whole life in the backyard. Does Kendrick not have a reputation? For what? For doing shit. For getting busy with his homies. Does he not? Does he not? He grew up in Compton in a Piru neighborhood, bro. Say that then. And tried his... He went to Centennial. Yes, he went to Centennial. Somebody going to come up here and clean it up. Ain't nothing to clean up, bro. Like, there's nothing to clean up here. At the end of the day, he's kind of on his LaRusse shit, if anything.

42:05Pretty much. He's kind of on his LaRusse shit. Because Kendrick Lamar, out of all the rappers and the singers that move to L.A. and start claiming the hood. I don't have to name names because y 'all know all the ones with the gang subscription. He could have been out in all red, big paru, big P hat. Hello. Standing on top of Centennial. Busting it down. bloodwalking talk about not like us and he didn't do it yes he has all of the permission all of the backstory all of the lore to go out and be the biggest suge knight type gangster he wanted to be he got all the homies that'll really do it y 'all seen the pop out niggas is ready hop on the stage crash out catch a bullet or shoot somebody all these cloud chasings and fucking pulls everybody from conference for sure he's from one of the poorest areas in the cities it's this no what niggas will do for a hundred dollars you don't want to see the show literally so he could be the biggest gangster so if anything drake has over the years and that was my argument with this whole thing has made himself more of the cosplay gangster to you to quote megan the stallion then kendrick lamar has you got on the songs with 21 savvy talking about shooting robbing killing gang shit that's all i'm on drake you've never been in a gang you probably never been to a gang meeting it doesn't make sense you're from you don't have to do this that's what everybody said even kendrick said in the beef i liked you better when you were singing i liked it better when it was pop music but you wanted to be gangster so bad because you feel like you got to be a fake mob boss to be rich and popping.

43:18You don't. It's like you're ashamed from being from Canada. So you're trying to make Canada this scary place. The six. It's not real. Canada is beautiful. Well, no, that's not true, though. Toronto is incredibly dangerous. But it's little pockets of crimes and shit that you have to know about to go get into. It's the underworld. It's not out on the street like out here, but we get banged on the way to school. It's not like that in Toronto. No, no, no. But Toronto is a fucked up city. For the people that are already in the bullshit. Not for a nigga that went on TV. Scarborough and all that. like there's sections out there like jane strip and all that rex dale like there's we've seen drake's mom we've seen drake's mom beautiful like do you think she ever let her son in those areas no but okay and he would have to go and find it and google map it and get on reddit and find some shit for him on the self no but i do like i don't fault him in that aspect of putting that on the map and shining a light on the culture when the general consensus of toronto is what you just said for a lot of people that don't know what's up and um and of course like him being the face of it that doesn't necessarily do much to deter that image right because like you said so he's like hey but it really do go down out here and there are men in the end yeah but why did it have to be you that's saying it why have to be you that's talking about it just like we had the conversation with the wrestle because but then you get to say if anyone else said Kendrick right if we're saying that Kendrick isn't you know a somebody from where he's from because what I've heard about Kendrick is he's from somewhere.

44:41He is. He's from somewhere. But he's not putting that out front. Yeah, he's downplaying his gangster for sure. But when you do some gangster shit and you have some gangster imagery type shit and that's the energy you're greeting another person with, it's more likely than not they might want to get on some gangster shit with you if they're gangster or not. And that was my whole point is like he's playing by like a different set of rules. He's playing by like street rules by calling him a PDF file. How was that street rules when all of that was done in public? It's not like it's a secret. It's not paperwork.

45:12That's the best way to disrespect someone in public, not in private. All of the allegations against Drake to make that quote justifiable or to make it hard for people to go against that has all been done in public. But it's not like something that's proven, right? It's all been done in public. There's no case or whatever. It don't matter. You can go on TikTok and you see the boys from the high schools in Canada talking shit, complaining that Drake is taking all the hot girls from their school and they're all at the embassy. no no no ricky ricky ricky ricky it's a rap battle i can say whatever the fuck i want and as long as some people believe it and think it's funny and think it was said yeah the truth goes yeah contact sports have rules not fuck but he said he beat his wife though how come nobody talk about that bro you said i beat my wife you said i won't marry her all types of shit you try to disparage my character and i came out with the haymaker on you i saw the feminist article write about how people were excusing all that shit.

46:06I saw the woke left getting busy during the rap battle. This is like me trying to explain the rules of engagement of intricacies of soccer to you. No. I'm trying to tell you the rules of engagement of the way this shit works. First of all, Ricky, you know who KRS-One is? You've heard that name before, right? Do you know who MC Shan is? No, you don't know who MC Shan is. No, no, no. I'm sorry. I was just saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't know who he is. And you know why you don't know who he is? because KRS smoked him in a rap battle in 1986. He's got body. That's why you don't know who he is.

46:37Shouts to MC Shen, incredible, legendary artist, founder of the Juice Crew, all right? You know what I'm saying? The bridge, Queensbridge, original Queensbridge legend. With all that being said, KRS won't you know who he is. You might have heard the name a few times because he wound up to make history, right? Right. In that rap battle, he said a bunch of crazy shit. Roxanne Shante, who was a 14-year-old girl at the time, by the way. His only good for steady fucking is one of the bars, he said. You feel me? Like, alright. So, at the end of the day, you can say whatever you want in a rap battle as long as it's said well, the people like it, the people believe it, and you win.

47:14You can rewrite history in a fucking rap battle. Whether or not, if there's elements of truth, you can take whatever creative artistic license you want to embellish it as far as you want. Oh, we seen him courtside, you said, at high school games. Oh, he's DMing Millie Bobby, giving her advice about, guess what he is now. Very easy to paint that picture. And we know, I've been around, bro. You're not like that. I don't think Drake's really, you feel me? Come on, bro. Drake's a grown-ass man. He's got grown-ass women around him. I don't believe he's that. Yeah, professional. Big shit. Well-developed shit.

47:50Come on now. You feel me? Oatmeal. With all that being said. For you, it's like, yeah, he's, part of the battle you smacking the same shit as future so it's beef about that so it's not kids but you know okay and then look like this is i just want to get back to my main point because we've gone down many roads and this was an entertaining conversation is that i am not jay cole for stepping as soon as i heard not like us i was like jay cole you're validated i went from being like jay cole that was some shit you did yes to goddamn jay cole can see the fucking future but you know what i'm saying because I wouldn't want to be a part of no shit like that.

48:26During the whatever Schoolboy Q's last album was at Blue Lips? During the Blue Lips promo tour, he was on a podcast and he said that, I don't know if it was him or he was telling the story as if somebody from TDE, but it was put as like Schoolboy Q called J. Cole and was like, hey, this ain't that. So you might want to back out. And that's what I'm saying. And told him whatever happened. So now Maul is framing it like maybe Kendrick had a call with him after the fact, but the original narrative out was that Schoolboy Q let J. Cole know, A is about to go left and this is not no friendly rap battle shit.

48:55It's not about to be what you think it is. That's why I'm saying I'm not mad at J. Cole for not getting in the mud with the pigs. I'm cool with that. I'm not going to shade him for that shit. But I wouldn't have deleted the song. You already put it out. What I think so is beyond like it took me a while to get past the self-righteous indignation of Maul's anger to actually dissect what he was saying. DM me right now. It just kind of like hit me what he was trying to like get to. I think the main point that mall was trying to make was hey you could have at least called me drake according to what mall saying yeah j cole hasn't even hit him up or contacted him but just ghosted but the other thing about that is and maybe some people would have a problem with it but there's no feelings in business and i don't know none of you niggas outside this rap i met y 'all all rapping facts just like i met everybody here podcasting so if some shit happened outside the podcast or something and we're cool we talk on a personal level we came to my birthday party or something Okay, maybe you might get a little courtesy.

49:50But if the only time I ever see or hear from you was about business, then nigga, the business phone is off now. I got a new business phone. It's over. That's what I'm saying. Like, J. Cole just seems like the adult in this situation. And everyone's like, oh, that's so fucking lame. And it's like, no, it's just immature. It's mature, bro. I want to ride bikes through Central Park. Chill out. I'm a fucking millionaire. I don't want to get into this petty ass bullshit that these dudes are doing. Let's be real. This political theater at the end of the fucking day. I want to just fucking be J. Cole and enjoy my millions with my wife and my harem.

50:20I'm not mad at that. Do not accuse J. Cole of having a harem. Oh, we know what it is. You're not a virgin no more. Hey, I'll say this, man. That album really, really better have all the tits and ass out, bro. And my hip-hop, my hip-hop fucking hat is like, bro, we've been saying this, and I've said it here yesterday. Around the time when J. Cole and Kendrick, I mean not J. Cole, Drake and Kendrick dropped for all the dogs and Mr. Morale and shit. J. Cole was out rapping them at an elite fucking level. I would be willing to say all the time. This whole time he's been out rapping them? All the time, because Kendrick is cool.

50:57I'm from the West. I understand all of that. But I have played in my life way more J. Cole songs in rotation than I have Kendrick because it's very political. It's very yelling in the car and shit. That's not my vibe. I wish the Black Hippie album would have come out. When they were all rapping together, that's the Kendrick that I really fucked with. My point, exactly. If Tam is willing to go out and say that, right, you cannot exclude J. Cole from this top three conversation and or not consider him the number one rapper in America right now if people are already saying he's been better than Kendrick.

51:29He's been better than Kendrick. At making songs, putting songs out that are relistenable. So this, just because he ranked it in a battle that really had nothing to fucking do with him. If people want to say that he's out of this upper echelon hip hop conversation because of this one action, get the fuck on. Get the fuck on. It doesn't have anything, but here's the thing, bro. You can't say it doesn't have anything to do with him when he was on the first person shooter song. Now, obviously, like their tension predates that. Kendrick and Drake were already like having their little like quiet storm war that they were, you know, subliminals.

52:07But that was what set it off. and it was that fuck the big three that made J. Cole jump out the window and make a whole ass diss track. And maybe if they would have talked to J. Cole and included him in the group chat before, he would have been on like that. And I would argue he probably would have the best verse on like that. He probably would have. Kendrick ducking wreck. I mean, J. Cole is the definition of ducking wreck. J. Cole. He should have been on first person shooter. Kendrick fucked up. He should have been on. He could have been on first person shooter and still said fuck the big three.

52:36I'm hot about that. I'm a forever be tight. I'm gonna forever be tight that Kendrick was not on fucking first person shooter I'm more tight that because I was kind of like of the same belief system of J. Cole is the better rapper of the three of these guys and is the most equipped for war when it came down to it but then what did you do when it got slimy you actually fucking you busted your gun and then said oops I'm sorry and can we talk about that though he still busted his gun the song is still out there you can still hear it it's not erased from history he might have pulled it down But he still said what he said and both them niggas didn't go back and get that Cole crazy.

53:11Because they don't want it with Cole. No, no, that's not it at all. They don't want it with Cole. What the fuck? The Ville is back. What did you be saying? Maybe J. Cole, my only argument for him is maybe J. Cole values the sanctity of his personal life more and he did not want to get dragged into this beef where they were going to put personal business out and he's enjoying his private life with his wife and his kids and he don't want niggas to tell about his harem or whatever he got going on. You don't know, J. Paul might be tight, nigga. You talk about my kids. I'm going to pull up on you for real.

53:39I'm going to get off this bike. We're going to air it out. You feel me? No, no. Vietnam. J. Cole. You're right. You're right. You don't know? Adam should have taken a knee in that fight and not fucking swung. You feel me? He should have. Get the fuck out of here. He said it was smarter because he didn't have any bruises. He didn't get hurt. He could have really got hurt. What if his jaw got broke? I agree with that. He wouldn't have even been able to podcast. No, it's clearly illustrating a point, bro. You can't step in the ring and be like, oops, I don't want it. No. You got to fucking catch that fade once you're out there.

54:15Period. How come Kendrick and Drake never doubled back to address Cole? Because obviously there's something in this phone call. I guess, what do you all think, Chad? Let us know. You can be listening in the comments. This was fire. that was a good that was a good hip-hop conversation next on the unhinged hip-hop news we have is Nicki Minaj has sold her soul to Donald Trump to get the gold card the unlimited citizenship oh about Adam okay oh yeah wait what accusation there's a controversy yeah Adam accused me of being a thief on this podcast and that's just more of his you know white man jumping out sometimes he's cool sometimes he's hipster white man sometimes he gets that Nashua and he accused me of stealing something that I asked Josh could I have that I also shared with the kids here during the New Year's Eve show debacle It was like the sour candies.

55:10The final boss candies. I was out. I was sharing them with Jaleesa's children. I shared them with people here. Ricky had some. It was a vibe. I think you guys are overhyping them on the Tuesday show. So because you have slandered my name and damn my reputation, I will be stealing today. And I'm taking this home with you. Thank you. Up in the skull. Come get it back in blood, Tav said. Up in the skull. That's crazy. You don't have no cooler shit around here to take. Yeah. ultimately though like look they're so easy to before we get in the nikki minaj thing i just wanted to say it's so easy to get into like the intricacies of hitting on any of these guys or just like i don't think any one of these people should be deified hip-hop is a contact sport it's just like anything else everybody has a good day everybody has a bad day yeah yeah like you know ultimately kendrick bit the fuck out of draco if it wasn't for draco the ruler the gnx album would not exist not like us talking about that yeah i did that was fine danny brown is my best friend and he just doesn't even know it that was funny he literally echoed every single sentiment i've made about draco about that um the whole thing that kendrick kendrick's entire influence from that what draco did he literally said everything i've been saying for the past year that that made me feel so so vindicated yeah yeah they have so vindicated yeah i was like i feel fucked up that I'm listening to this and agreeing with him more but I was keeping you in mind I was like I owe Lush an apology but I also do believe that my argument that there's a west coast sound that originates all of that is true you know but whatever let's not do it I respect you for like for you feel me sending shout out to Aaron Jones I agree did you see Aaron Jones going viral on suburban LA?

56:57No yeah y 'all keep asking who the fuck is Aaron Jones y 'all need to tap in with the city for real who the fuck is Aaron Jones he feel me yeah he's a guy out here i would never let adam scuff my buffs shout out to brody all right so nikki minaj everybody said that she was tap dancing and in coonin and acting a fool and at the turning point usa with the pyrotechnics to get her family the narrative online with it to get her alleged pedo family pardoned but it turns out she would only think about herself she wanted that citizenship because y 'all got to remember that nikki minaj is a trinidadian immigrant she came here as a child with her parents.

57:34So now she's got the Trump gold card. She could have just paid the million and stayed out the spotlight and not tarnish her legacy, but she wanted it for free. So she posted it. Well, after holding hands with Trump, which we would know, Melania won't even hold hands with Trump. But she was holding hands with Trump, clasped like this and said that she's his number one fan. And then today, after all the backlash, she posted, residency, residency, the cope is coping. Finalizing the citizenship paperwork as we speak, as per my all caps wonderful gracious charming president thanks to the petition I wouldn't have done it without you oh citizen Nika you are the moment gold trump card free of charge it was only a million dollars you always popping it about being rich man Nicki Minaj is just a horrible person and Barb's I'm not even a little bit afraid of you guys I'm not even a little bit afraid of you guys because this is absolutely deplorable sick deplorable and for her to add this part in trump gold card free of charge.

58:30It was only a million. Dude. Well, dude. She's been crying about that money for the past two years that supposedly Jay-Z owes her. She clearly doesn't understand how investing works. This woman is a bad person. Yeah. Well, I mean, look at the people that she's chosen to surround her with. Herself with. Like, the people that she lays down with. The people that she's chose to procreate with. Dude. I couldn't think of a worse artist to do this than Nicki Minaj per her fan base. Oh, yes. The people that up with her. The people that pay her bills that she has turned her back on. That's how I feel when she came out at Turning Point USA with Erykah.

59:11They're playing like starships. And I'm like, you think the gay boys are going to like this shit? Dude. Do you know what Erykah thinks about them and their lifestyle? Crazy. I wonder how, yeah, I wonder how all the, her significant contingent of gay fans. It's real quiet. Oh, it's backstabbing. It's betrayal. Or they're all going to merge over to Cardi. I hate gay people now. She's just been saying shit like Dejana Barb. No, he's not. OK, so does Dejana have I would like to know what Dejana thinks about Nicki Minaj? Yeah, I think that there's a wide consensus online and in public like Nicki Minaj is just a clown now.

59:43A clown dude with an aunt BBL and aunt butt BBL. And her walking, even the footage of her in these rooms with the people, it just looks so out of place and it looks so crazy. And it's not about color or black and white because there's a lot of black Republicans, but just you, the optics of Nicki Minaj. When you were a little bit more in your sober mind, and I keep on quoting this because it's funny, Island Girl Donald Trump want me to go home. You said that. Yeah. And now the turn, the pivot, and I don't want to disparage all immigrants, but there's like a theme. Wait, what is that for? Island Girl Donald Trump want me to go home.

1:00:16she said that in a song in like a protest kind of way not in a protest just like factual like that was going on like first term it's kind of it's kind of like a flexi bar like on some like you feel like you're like i'm fly i'm from the islands i didn't even know she had like some shit like that yeah yeah yeah yeah and people are making jokes like oh rihanna would never cardi b would never this kind of stuff because also you know immigrants are children are immigrants but i think that this sadly is how a lot of immigrants that come to america act if they get the opportunity they will align whoever they will align with on the bottom but if they get the opportunity to be accepted by whiteness and to get to wear that invisibility cloak even for five minutes oh yeah they turn up for you for sure this is the the scandalous part to me is that like oh like just because you wind up being successful and having money even though like let's be honest what is nikki minaj really contributed to society other than like tits and ass you know what i mean like god she doesn't it's not like she has like a message like lauren hill that's lifting the community or she wants to to put herself in conversation with so bad well well like to be fair like awesome like like she is like the goat female rapper like i'm not gonna say she's not as far as accolades she is the most successful female hip-hop mc of all time there's nobody that could like to be honest like it's actually unfair to even compare lauren hill to her in that regard just when you talk about longevity when you talk about it but really other than that what have you really done like you're an artist like i'd say i don't the people that are actually the building the actual structures that encompass our city are more important than an artist that's just you know on stage shaking ass and tits yeah for the for them like for real and the fact that they're not prioritized and we're gonna put more to me that's crazy i don't even want to limit artists to just entertainment and stuff because that can be transformative when you use your attention for good and Nicki Minaj has never done that.

1:02:07I've never seen her having no Barb scholarship or no Barb's run like how Gunna is trying to get the fans healthier. She's never done anything but get a bunch of money, show a lot of tits and ass and then get online and kind of talk shit to her fans and despair them from being broke. She exploits stupidity. She exploits the stupidity of other people. What is a Barbie? A Barbie is a plastic doll. It's fake. It's like the idealized image that people try to force upon. This is how current women are supposed to act and her even coming out and doing all of that and then getting on joe button in their little sit down in the dark and saying how she was kind of pressured to change her body because all the girls that were around the young money camp at that time bitch you are pressured to fucking change your body strippers and this and that so she wanted to change and then you get on the internet you try to bully people like cardi b and her sister saying they got surgery to look like you you influence a generation of women to get surgery to look like you that's something that you should be ashamed of not on the internet making fun of people for it because bitches could have died from that BBL trying to chase it like you did die we're dying they did die and you think it's funny like you're a bad person like we've already said yeah so essentially Nicki Minaj has hats essentially she's also stupid yeah she's just not that and allegedly she's about to lose her house or something from taxes so this is probably why she did that as well I don't think she's stupid that's what makes this all the worse yeah that's what makes this all the worse she's extremely intelligent and like it's almost like oh she's not well no she's not well You know what I mean?

1:03:30Like she's I would say like if we're going to say yay is not well. That's what I was going to ask. Is this just the yay playbook? Is this the yay MAGA playbook at play? Like let's just act a little crazy for a couple of years. Do this whole thing. Then they're walking back with an apology with some rabbis. I'm better now. With some rabbis. Donald Trump's not the president. I made some mistakes. I did some things. I said some things. Because like that's also one of Donald Trump's biggest grievances is that he said like a lot of people switched up on him. like people that were with him they were rocking with them private phone calls i support what you're doing i'm saying it in the dark not in the public a lot of those people switched on him i could definitely see that for uh nikki you know what i'm saying couple of years i was off that good powder you know on tv yeah yeah but i'm good now baby i'm good now baby i'll forgive her i'll genuinely forgive her you'll forgive her yeah i'm team card i feel like this even my side exactly I feel like this even is a little bit further than Kanye West, because despite the disparaging remarks he made about slavery being a choice and all these things, Kanye West was doing that in his mind to help his wife, Kim Kardashian, get those people out of jail and to make other activism that really helped other people.

1:04:41Because he would have got the tax breaks and all that COVID money and shit regardless. Right. So he's doing it in his mind for this other little cause where Nicki Minaj is put out in public. She's doing this only for herself. Yeah. It's only for personal benefit. She's not going to help one stranger. Yo, that picture of the gold card is crazy, too. And then she has Chucky on this one. It is crazy. With the middle finger. But yeah, she's posting her gold card. Like, this is real. Like, this is literally just an iPhone picture. Like, not like, that's in bed. Took this picture. No, she's in the black car on the way from there, from the event.

1:05:13Like, look at what I got. Just flexing on you broke niggas. And put whelp. Like, be mad. Yo, this is crazy. This is sick. She's a clown. Yo, this shit's funny, though. That is funny. And this just justifies everything that Cardi B said about her during their beef. That you're in the house drugged up and your husband has full reign of the accounts and the credit cards. That nobody's taking care of Papa Bear because you own a sick one. Well, I mean, like her pussy clearly trashed, dog. She would have been wiped up so many years ago if it wasn't. Oh, Nikki? Yeah. I think it's the personality. She has a bad reputation for being just mean and evil, even from her service people.

1:05:49When you get that much surgery, too, it's really hard to find time where you could actually like you. That's a lot of ass, but you can't really utilize it. You feel me? You can't even hit it in the right way. You could potentially damage the BBL and shit. I'm glad I'm a person that's never faked my affinity for Nicki. Never been my cup of tea. Never will be my cup of tea. I love her. I didn't like that. I never liked any of that shit. I love Nicki. I never liked any of that shit. It was always corny to me. I was like borderline. I was flirting with, like, if you're a Barb. You and T-Rail, huh?

1:06:20If it wasn't so, like, I can't just get into something that just personifies just plastic and just fake to that degree. But she was so hot, and I just like the way she rapped so much. And Safaris Pen, for her, it was fire. So I was like, okay, like, yeah, like, this kind of worked. Her best shit was Beast in a Trap. Beast in a Trap. That was her best shit. I loved her. Are you going to kind of give credence to the idea that Nicki Minaj is not the best female rapper pen? Because she gets so much credit. Like she wrote all those songs. And I'm like, there's no way. She's definitely not the best female rapper pen.

1:06:56That's why I'm like, have you guys never heard Foxy Brown? That's what I'm saying. The best female rapper pens are like, you feel me? Like. Oh, boy's wife. Like Rhapsody. Rhapsody. Chez Noir. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's. You feel me? Ra Diga. Ra Diga for sure. You feel me? You feel me? These are like pens. These are pens. She's like a lot of MC light. Yes, they give her that kind of credit. Like she's that much above the Cardinals and the Megans. And the like, you're not. No, you're not. You're not. And I would bet money. You could not be making the style in a freestyle battle. Dude, I hate to say this.

1:07:28Megan's washing her. Megan's washing her. She's going to be nasty. I know she got writers too, but Lotto writes better than Nikki. Lotto is washing Nikki. Lotto writes better than Nikki. Significantly. She called her very freaky grandma. I'll never forget that. That stayed in my mind forever. Lotto could write. Like she's like, she could write. I know because I'm in writing camps. I know who the writers are. I think that Lotto gets the writer accusation just because she's a big artist and people send the songs. But every single writer she's worked with has come out and said, oh, she changes the whole this and that or she'll make her own verse.

1:08:00It's more like, oh, she kept the hook or she kept the idea of the song. Her boyfriend, like, shooter or slider. She's just a perfect storm. She was out when she didn't really have real competition. That's why I never give her the female. You had no competition. yeah like we and this is even about her like political moves and stuff and like i dislike for this current regime and stuff like that this is just fact bro like she was the only one for such a fucking long time you know and for what reason that was i don't know why labels weren't looking into female rappers and developing them and shit because we know a lot of this shit is fabricated you know they pick somebody to be the person well she had her feet on necks for so long too there was no neck to step on she wasn't stepping on no male neck it was the same way okay so like when Beyonce became popular and as a soloist when Beyonce became a soloist there's Carrie Hilson was popping up at the time there was a lot of her competition got smacked out the game mysteriously kind of understandable why though Beyonce is like you know why Beyonce is like a better writer and is but she's not a better performer Kelly Rowland is too.

1:09:07That's why. Kelly Rowland sings better than Beyonce. So who cares? Carrie Wilson can damn near sing as good as Beyonce and is damn near as fine as her. That's top though. She was pressured. You don't know why Beyonce rolls at the top. She was pressured. Yes, we know. And this is not like the last thing I need is to get stung. You feel me? I don't need the hive on my ass. Before we get shot, you know what Kanye said, Jay-Z, I know you got to kill us. Yeah, exactly. I don't need Jay's hooters on my helmet. Oh, God. With that being said, realistically, dude, Nicki, it was not viable because there was no competition for Nicki Minaj.

1:09:43She smacked people for so long and it didn't even make sense. It took an artist of a slightly different demographic racially to even be. And even before that. Azalea? Who are we talking about? Her too. Do that. Do that. Iggy Azalea should be mentioned. You're right. But really Cardi B was the first real pressure she felt. But I don't like it that people do that different racial, because no, they're both Caribbean girls getting light skin privilege, getting good hair privilege. Stop. You're right. But from an optics perspective, though. You know what I'm saying? From how they look? They look the same.

1:10:17From a general perception perspective, I think that people, Cardi definitely leans into the Latina. Afro-Latina? Yeah. Because she can speak Spanish? And there's a difference between, Trinidad's like, yeah, it's the Caribbean, but it's not like a Spanish-speaking nation. You know what I mean? And so it's different than Cardi B who's Dominican. Can we talk about that? Go ahead. In black culture, and maybe Ricky and you too, because you know about black men because they're your homies. When they see those two girls, they both are getting exotic privilege. She's not a regular black girl because she's from Trinidad.

1:10:48Nicki Minaj got a little bit different edges. And Cardi B can speak Spanish. She got a nigga hair, but she can speak Spanish. You just proved my point. It's slightly different demographic. But it's the same. Yeah. But to me, I look at them as black girls. But Tam is reminding us what the black man's fatal flaw is. is that it's the same we want something that's not exactly but that's but that's not what i just said though that she was a slightly different demographic but it's not though you're saying it's a different demographic just because she can speak spanish but as far as how they look and the men that will be attracted to them and why they're going to get elevated over a foxy brown is and foxy brown's trinidad as well oh okay okay and little kim is because of how they look and the exoticism that they can put on them okay can you talk about this though too also how like nikki just like or cardi b lotto all these newer acts they kind of appeal sexy red to like your everyday american ghetto girl yeah i feel like nikki has like never done that well it was just she was the only option at the time even little mama i was like that's some shit that it's like more familiar yeah uh the girls that used to be rapping with the dudes okay oh diamond and yeah they even had like a couple cuts where it's like okay stilettos are you too young for my body you don't know who You know Eve too.

1:11:58All that shit felt more like culturally appropriate at the time. Mary J. Blige all that shit just felt more like of the culture than what Nicki Minaj Nicki Minaj to me was like Eminem type rapper like she was like Eminem in a black woman's body. Yes itty bitty piggy. I was around for the rise of Nicki Minaj and I really will say it's because of the fake body like she got elevated so quick because she had that fat ass and it was like she was everywhere she was on every mixtape cover even if she only had one song in Charleston. They got a big ass Nicki Minaj poster. It's like, oh, well, who is this?

1:12:29And she got the band. I remember her first viral clip. It was on Worldstar and it was like the, her song was called Higher Than a Kite. Oh yeah, higher than a kite. And it was her with Lil Wayne. And Lil Wayne was like, this is my new artist. You feel me? Nicki Lewinsky. Yeah. And she was talking, she called herself Nicki Lewinsky. And she was like, oh, I'm so high. Right. She was like basically saying she's on, and she's rapping about being on ecstasy and like getting fucked. And her name was Nicki Minaj. and she was hot and had really big boobs and she had dope punchlines and I was like, who the fuck is this girl I'm in love?

1:13:01I was obsessed. Any heterosexual male red-blooded Michelle. And that's what it is. Yeah, but I'll never excuse you dudes for not holding her accountable for the thighs not matching the ass. I could never get past that. I never would get past that. Ice cream cone body. Her ass wasn't super fat at this time. She was more of a booby girl at first She was more of a booby girl You're right But when the ass stopped matching the thighs That's when I checked out We didn't even see the 360 in that video And then she did a lot of Lil' Kim cosplay It was all Lil' Kim cosplay It was all Lil' Kim cosplay I'm glad I can say this now openly I'm glad I can just speak my truth Lil' Kim to me is my favorite female rapper of all time I don't give a fuck what anybody says And even if Lil' Kim might not have had the most pristine message.

1:13:53Are we just going to act like Missy Elliott isn't a person? I don't consider her a rapper. She's bigger than a rapper. She's Missy Elliott. She's Missy Elliott. Because she's written so many classic R &B songs. She's more than just a rapper. She makes beats. She does everything. We're always rapping on them. But she does everything. Not always. She be singing. She sings. I like that we're putting her in the ethereal realm. She's in ethereal realm. I think Missy, isn't she Rockwell Hall of Fame? You bitches could never. But we're not going to say that she's the best female rapper. So if we're including Missy, she obviously smacked everybody upside the head, bro.

1:14:24Including Laurier Hill. You feel me? Yes. Yeah, come on, bro. No, Missy and me is up there with Prince. Yes. Like when Missy, like God for I don't even want to put that out there. You feel me? Missy's legacy is like comparable to Prince, Michael Jackson. For Missy to do Pass That Dutch and then do So Gone for Monica and then do all the Aaliyah songs and then come back and do the Sierra songs. Like y 'all can't, y 'all not fucking with Missy. We don't know what we do. We need to celebrate missy more so i'm glad you brought her up just for that fact like yeah but i don't even consider her like who's little wayne's favorite rapper missy elliot you said that inspired there you go and in her live show insane yeah she's like so like the to me the two best performers in hip-hop like history are missy and buster rhymes okay and like that's why i don't like people talk about like a versus that's like to me the ultimate versus that hasn't happened like missy elliot where it's Busta Rhymes and Missy Might.

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1:16:35Like in Shasta Q too. I'm just saying with my own eyes. Yeah, he's going to go. and it's for a rapper Kanye is one of the first people that I saw actually put theatrics and things into the show and it's not just him showing up in a fit I love that I love that that's coming more into like the hip hop realm like Doja Cat getting on a stage full of mud the weekend doing all of his prosthetic stuff like we need more like artsy shit like that unless what's the point of us paying to come to your show I could just listen to the song in my car and this is my favorite thing about like the fact that we are living in the independent era and people like LaRussell are shining so much is all the people that don't need to rap are not want to stream.

1:17:18They don't want to rap anymore. They're trying to, because rapping isn't the coolest thing to do. But I was going to say, I feel like that's separating the people that were rapping for the money grab from the people that actually want to rap because they like rap. And I'm glad to let's sort the wheat from the chaff. Go stream, you fucking pussy. Go stream, be in your house, be an influencer. Do that and leave the rap. don't like you don't understand bar structure you don't care about it you just like we're doing it because it was the coolest thing to do and those are the same niggas that come to the show and don't want to rap be up there annoyed and looking at the crowd you're not turned like you're not turned yeah that shit is crazy to me bro bro that's the best part about rapping is the live performance like you suffer going through the studio and the mixing and the mastering post-production is actually kind of cool but it's all about performing like i think you do all of that just so you can be on stage and to be honest like and if you and if you're a real artist that's torture too because you put that much thought into every aspect of your artistry so your live performance is so much anxiety because you're putting so much heart and thought into every it's not it's not just like getting on but that's your exhibition but but like but but like the the way of the culture in 2026 like in this rolling loud era it's like just get on stage and ad-lib your shit and people will like you.

1:18:32That's cool and all, but that's to me what makes a compelling, engaging performance so far from that. Put thought into it. That doesn't mean you could do that. I'll say even Playboy Cardi at Rolling Loud was an amazing performance and he did just what I described. I was going to say, that younger generation, you're starting to see who's separating from each other with your Yachtys, your Playboy Cardis, Gunna even, putting more production into the show. Don Toliver. of Don Toliver. Don Toliver is firing. I'm excited for Octane. Why do I like Don Toliver more than Travis Scott and always have? Because he is like the brainchild of Travis Scott.

1:19:09Once you hear company on Don Toliver then you understand, oh shit, Travis. You stole his motion. You stole his voice even. You tried to give it to Drake. Don Toliver's voice is why I like him the most. Don Sinatra. The funny voice is what makes me fuck with him. But for real, Travis actually sauce up Kanye like a motherfucker. Oh, definitely. Oh, the Pharoah album, you go back and listen to that, you hear a lot. Even It's Amazing. Bro, he was literally making a lot. We're talking about ghost writers, ghost producers. Travis was a big part of it. Let's do that track list right quick. Travis is a huge part of Yesoft.

1:19:44And him getting his young style back. Because I remember, I don't know if it was a call or a video where Kanye's going crazy. He's like, and why does A.S.T.A.P. Rocky have better pants than me? Like, I'm paying all of you. And this shouldn't be fucking going on right now. I do want to read this super chat because it's like on topic Kim didn't write her

1:20:05Kim wasn't better than Foxy Foxy can't rap with Nikki y 'all ain't seen no girl rap and be better than the guys on the track okay are you talking about the monster verse yes the monster verse is amazing like regardless I don't care we don't like the monster verse for the time and for all that Yes, but we're not going to put that against another. Five-star chick. There's a lot of examples of Nicki like shining on dudes on tracks. There's a lot. But you don't think that that was allowed? But just to clarify, all three of the people you mentioned have writers and had writers from the beginning and have written their own verses as well.

1:20:43So we're not going to do that. We're going to remove that. Yes, we've heard reference tracks of big rapping players anthem by Junior Mafia. Yeah, big talking about, like you feel me? I used to be scared of this. Yeah, deeper than a pussy of a bitch six feet. Yeah, of course. Stiff dicks feel sweet in this little petite young bitch from the street. That's what Big said. He was the original real ass bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God. Shouts are big for being an amazing songwriter. And perhaps a little pos-moscule-y zessy. Team big. Yeah. With that being said, Kim had writers at times. Foxy had writers.

1:21:22Jay-Z wrote her verse on Ain't No N-Word, which was her breakout single, when she was 16 years old. She had Nas wrote her verse on Affirmative Action, her second great guy verse. She's had writers her whole career too. And so has Nicki. Everything else you said is, they're kind of all beget each other, but Lil' Kim is to me. She's the supreme. Yeah. And if you want to go about writers, that's fine. You can have a separate conversation. But if you're going to compare what really sells the shit, style, personality, media viability, fashion adjacency and all that, Lil' Kim started that. and all Nicki Minaj did was go into that fold and we're re-wearing the same outfit.

1:21:59So we're not going to do that. She re-rocked it, literally copied her poses and then instead of embracing her and being like, you're the big homie, she tried to beef with her. She tried to beef with her and make sure she had no... That's the crazy thing that Nicki did to me. And tried to rewrite history and kept stepping on Lil' Kim at every turn like she wasn't that. And trying to include herself in the conversation with Lauryn Hill when you represent nothing that Lauryn Hill... At all. You're the antithesis of Lauryn Hill. now fox boogie aka foxy brown is unfair to put in this conversation due to her unfortunate accident and her loss of hearing you know what i mean so but still when she was out a clap back let's let's let's keep addressing this person i like yeah yeah i like she also og duddy 43rd street general for these her rapping period not just the monster verse her reefy reference track have you heard What reference track have you heard on Nicki?

1:22:50People in general, there aren't public reference tracks of Nicki songs the same way there are of Lil' Kim's early work. I'll give you that. Because the people involved are dead. We know that they're, bro, like you're not going to, like we know it's been acknowledged. Like Nicki has not penned all of her verses. Yes, she is a great writer. Yes, she is a better writer than Kim and Foxy. I will give you that. You know what I'm saying? And like this person saying Anaconda hit a Billy. You guys just chatting. Anaconda is a weak ass song, bro. It's like a fucking poppy ass song that a bunch of people like.

1:23:23And it's super digestible for like most of America. And it's a remake of a famous Sir Mix-A-Lot. That's Sir Mix-A-Lot. I hate it when y 'all do that. When y 'all give niggas credit for somebody else's hit that they rapped on. No, Anaconda was very clever. It was very well done. It was great that they re-rocked that song. Shout to them doing that. and really on the strength of that video with a new body unlocked and you know since clearly we have a Barb in the comments you know like a gangbanging Barb you feel me like crazy but if y 'all gonna give Nicki Minaj credit for shit like Anaconda I don't want you to say nothing about Doshi and Anxiety ever again in your life if you gonna give that lady credit for Anaconda when you know that Sir Mixed Law song you know the whites loved that song back then they didn't give a fuck who was rapping on it this time as long as it was back out but when we talk about some real corny shit y 'all act deaf about it what the fuck I do want to say shout to everybody that's watching the stream I know it's super early the fact that people even tuned in at 10am nobody knew there was no previous announcement made shout out to you guys and we really do appreciate y 'all rocking with us and I like this dynamic you feel me like yeah flock to ball would have been dope here like because he's like deep hip-hop historian i'm sure he would have took us down some weird like rabbit hole we could have done 40s 30s 20s teens yeah exactly exactly bro i felt bad when i interrupted him yesterday when i was like man we don't want to hear all this d12 shit like it was interesting to be honest oh d12 like m &m's group yeah y 'all don't fuck with my band he was i'd fuck with my i'd fuck with my band

1:25:10the king pill boy was the king pill day or was it another oh i know what it was it was 607 unc oh no you're right it was yes it was sus brandon gate swiss army gate that's crazy do we have to end the stream at 12 ish I gotta dip I gotta dip for sure got you okay so number 7 Wack 100 is currently in the middle of intense beef for 4 of the 6 hosts on the no dumper show what's your best opinion on how to solve the workplace beef Wack is a bully I don't think it's no solving nothing with him yeah Wack gotta chill out bro at the end of the day that's just what it is like I don't understand his strategy of just like not fucking with anybody and like constantly trying to remind us that we're peons and we're so beneath him and stuff but you supposed to be the multi-millionaire big dog should be like you know trying to maybe uplift the young talent around you and shit and put niggas on game and do some honorable shit is it but instead it's like he's always trying to like establish this like non-existent hierarchy and shit and it's just whack like niggas not gonna go for that shit it's because there's no org chart at no jumper yeah it's great yeah that's another thing too like what let's let's let us see the or chart so we understand where we sit sit in in the uh hierarchy of things you know what i'm saying for sure yeah like you know do you guys think that is possible now i might be jumping out a window here that whack being older gentleman that's been around the entertainment industry there's more industry experience than realistically anybody in this building is it possible that he's just messing with people to get engagement and to get turned up and to be prevalent in the conversations because he's very intelligent and knows how to move and knows how to keep himself in the conversation and knows how to stir up drama because he knows what that drama is what moves the needle at no jumper so whack is just playing 3D chess with everybody else looking at it from a Chinese checkers perspective I do agree with that I even heard him make uh is that possible yes I've even heard him personally make references to that like he'll be for the person to help turn them up but in a workplace environment and this could be just I've been having office jobs since I was 15 that it is hard to develop any type of camaraderie or any type of even just cool corridor relationships here when you're not when it's not like people are afraid but when people have a certain attitude like oh shit here whack him like you tense up a little bit or you like feel like you got to get in your defensive mode because you know he's gonna go crazy on you on camera and maybe after that he might be cool with you but you already took the disrespect or the shaming or whatever he did to lambast you on camera on live and it's like damn a lot of people are not so entertainment that they can go home and walk with that a lot of people they might be getting calls from their homies or from their parents or their family like hey why are you letting him talk to you like that or who is that guy?

1:28:14Because they don't know who Wack 100 is. And the subjects, like they'll be so serious. It's not like playful shit. Like what you're talking about is like hazing to a degree, which is cool. I play sports my whole life. I've had like professional jobs and stuff. It's okay. Like I came in here knowing I was going to be the new guy. The chat was going to be making fun of me. College boy. Yeah, coworkers were going to be taking little digs at me and stuff. And that's fine. It's funny. I got a big forehead. I dress a little funny compared to the random, regular LA dude. I'm down for all of that. but then you start making like threats and shit like that and just making it like mad awkward like that's taking it a step too far we can shoot on each other all day we can go back and forth this these are the the uh the rules of the land we all grew up around it type shit but then when you take it to like even the shit where an jefe like i'm not a gangster or whatever but it's certain words that you use with one another in that realm where it's gone from like this is some oh i'm just fucking around with you like pokey pokey to real shit like when an jefe and munchie had their moment how did they get at each other oh you can't dress uh this that and the third oh you trying to be potter of the year that's just that's just funny funny yeah that's and they were able to shake hands and be homies afterwards didn't nobody call each other out their name you know the w word wasn't used all sorts of shit whack takes it to another degree and it's like people don't want to play like that you know what i'm saying it takes it to this realm of seriousness that's like not cool you know what i'm saying and it's like you know it when your track record is like showing a lot of like bad shit people are gonna take whatever you say from them differently like it's gonna be more weighted more serious type shit well that's the thing like like like there's there's a difference between like me and adam and spody face munchie and and you know what i mean like and beyond the obvious but the fact is like there's there's levels of disrespect that they're not going to take that they're you know that me and adam will shrug off because it doesn't necessarily it's not as um severe or impactful to our aura because people don't like we're not like respected like street generals you know what i'm saying like we're not in the same category flock to ball as well how like the fact that fly to me like i feel bad because i think that flock to ball is like the next star of no jumper in my opinion you feel me and i think that he has a huge future.

1:30:32I think he could be like a Drewski type figure. He could be like, I think 5-2-ball is really, really as a, first he's, you know, once he loses virginity, the sky's the limit. You know what I'm saying? First things first, kid. Yeah, first things first. Get your priorities straight. With that being said, um, Don't. I meant it. With that being said, it's the best thing I could ever say for you. With that being said, um, whack like having flock to ball like in his head like tripping this up is like it's kind of funny but it's like come on whack like stall out the youngin you feel me like like he he don't you know like honestly i don't think that whack should be getting at anybody like that but i do think that there's an element of like he's not fully taking it with the same gravity he's trying to create entertainment and controversy and i think that that doesn't justify it or make it right but And to Ricky's point about like the way Wax approach with certain things, it almost is exactly what you said.

1:31:34Like if maybe Adam or you said the same things, it wouldn't be taken with the same amount of gravity. But it's coming from Wax. And now the people that don't live a life outside of No Jumper, like maybe you or Adam, and you do got to go back to the hood where you live or around your homies. Oh, you let that nigga talk to you like that. So now like the weak nigga from the hood about to start talking to you crazy because he's seeing you, Wax talk to you, you ain't say nothing. So don't try to boss up on me. for a man I can't imagine how that puts you in a situation socially even like now anybody think they can just but even just like in the moment type shit as well it's like you know like I always say men live in a like very physical world and it's like you can't do and say shit to certain dudes type shit like it is not about like how gangster someone is or whatever it's just like we understand that there's consequences for our actions more so than like a woman type shit I'm so glad that you said that Tam because here's the thing that's crazy right like let's say like let's say it'll be like like adam someone was someone i saw this in my favorite reddit thread in months this was so good someone was like yo like why the fuck or is adam still fucking popping it at his co-host like he just got his ass whooped who does he think he is popping at his co-hosts like and then and then one of the comments was like dude like he like him trying to orchestrate a good podcast and telling people one mic is not him disrespecting to the point where when your boss says, hey, make the Frosties a little faster, you're like, oh, that fool disrespected me.

1:33:04We need to get down. Do you feel me? What fool? Or y 'all letting Adam punk y 'all. Y 'all never stand up to Adam. How are you going to let Adam talk to you like that? What do you mean, bro? It's a podcast. and it's like it's not that serious but people assign this value to it like even like the the adam and munchie altercation yes was so much lighter childish but was so much lighter than like people commenting about it is what incensed that it made it into something yeah i mean it had nothing it really had zero gravity even at that moment it was all right guys peace like i literally said in the in the group chat over and over like this is just some like bro shit like this is like literally arguments i've had with my homies and shit and we're like kicking each other's chair across the room and like running into each other and whatnot even adam screaming my body my choice he couldn't have been 100 serious and also too to get back to like the whack thing i feel like the unfortunate thing is like whack is really entertaining and he is someone that like even coming up here i was like interested in sitting down and talking to having debates and stuff with kind of getting into like you know some of the deeper topics that he touches on as far as like where he thinks like the the black community should be headed in like directionally and stuff like that and we had the fuck the streets debate i thought that that was like cool you know what i'm saying even in that whack was saying little shit to me that i was like not cool with i was like he's like insinuating i would get raped in prison and shit this is just some weird ass on shit i'm gonna like bypass it or whatever like that's just i don't even know how to broach that type shit yeah a little bit over the line yeah a little over the line but at the same time i'm like this doesn't really apply to me kind of hilarious as well yeah oh he's on out type shit It reminded me of the like little baby skater.

1:34:45Like I'll be saying some wild ass shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I was like, whatever. But like, I feel like it just takes the appeal of like wanting to do that. Like I kind of, after our last little whatever, I was like, I don't really want to sit down with somebody who clearly has zero respect for me, you know? And that's just like the type of man I am. Like, why, why would I want to do that? Why would I want to put myself in an environment where someone doesn't fuck with me? I'd rather go somewhere where people actually fuck with me. Like I'm not a pick me ass nigga. like let me in the club please please i want to hang out with the cool kids you guys are so cool and gangster please let me be a part of your little rap pack no nigga i don't give a fuck about none of that i don't think you niggas is cool i don't want to hang with you what they have on a deeper rico song i don't need none of your rap niggas calling me twin like we friends or something nigga like that shit is lame bro you could keep that shit over there you know but at the same time i think that like contentious debates make for compelling content for sure For sure they do.

1:35:41But there has to be like a level of like respect, right? Like we was just yelling and there wasn't an ounce of animosity. Yeah, for sure. That's how it should be. But at the same time, that's driven by passion. And when people start, you know, of course, jailhouse, unconsensual penetration is going to change the dynamic of any combo. But to Ricky's point, why is that on your mind? Why is that even getting brought up? No, no, no. Being brought up in a podcast environment. it's so funny because like there is a uh there's a the video of like comparator taking me getting baptized and then we went to in and out in the gym and i'm like hitting the bag like but i'm like super weak hitting the bag and um there's a comment on there and someone was like if he was in prison he'd be getting it was like that same type of comment and then i looked and bro was locked up and that's crazy i guess worse it was it was 4 45 in the morning, dog.

1:36:39Late at night? Yeah, I was like, dude, thank God I'm not in your cell. Oh, God, he's bricked up. You feel me? Oh, God, he's bricked up. That's crazy. That's crazy. I would say free him, but keep him now. He might be too institutionalized. On the subject of that, who is this man that they keep posting on the Reddit that he's live-streaming from jail? Oh, B-Braze? Oh, B-Braze? Is he like a prominent figure? Because I don't want to disparage him. B-Braze is doing... He's 200 years, so he's not getting out. if I can say what I want why is he live streaming from the jail and then everybody is taking his word like it matters he's in jail of course he's gonna tell you to do some crash out shit you go to jail with him or tell you to stand on a super tough yo on god it looks like a third world country in there it's like the gangsta shit on YouTube has like a spectrum or like a linear whatever and I was like yo b-brace is too far for me I was like yo no no this is crazy because I'm on ready for like the good time the jokes the AI pictures of Ant as Alter Eagle.

1:37:38That's why I'm on Reddit. I see this, man. I'm like, wait, is he hostage? I turned the volume up. I'm like, oh, he's in jail. Oh, shit. What he said, I'm the first nigga who ever streamed from the hole on GM. I was like, nigga, no. I was like, I'm never watching another B-Praised video ever again. I'm sorry you have 200 years. I don't think anybody's doing it. Since you got 200 years, that's like the best thing you could do. Go ahead. He's like, that's his best chance. Now he's still a little bit young. You feel me? What, he's going to be like 78? Now he's still trying to live his life. Yeah, exactly.

1:38:16Give me 10 more years. I don't give a fuck. But that's why I don't think that we should be taking advice. And I've always said this since I've been young. I used to plead with the boys in high school and middle school. Y 'all are taking advice from niggas that are idiots. Stop doing this. You're taking advice from somebody that's literally in jail right now telling you you're not hard enough. You want to be in jail. You want to go where he is? Because that's the advice he's giving you for the career path. Hey, how about this? Let's take it further. Since this is a perfect opening to this rabbit hole, how many of these street politics that all of us people living in society, gang members or not, are dictated by people doing life in prison?

1:38:56I say that all the time. You're talking about, and these dudes, they're not able to, these are people that aren't having sex with women. a lot of them a lot of them are doing like life and a lot of them are in like segregated housing unit and they're writing they're doing fucking heroin and fucking writing love letters to their homeboy three cells down like you know and they're deciding who entire organizations in the streets entire communities who's getting along with who and who's greenlit and who gets shot bro that's a terrifying concept have you seen um the have you seen the soft white underbelly about uh uh the la columnist that wrote the book about the the extortion that was happening in macarthur park i did not okay really good soft white underbelly that i suggest that everyone watches but let me just skip forward to the end these kids were on the street kids men whatever on the street committing the most heinous crimes for their organization i'm not going to say which organization and it was like discovered that the feds knew the entire time that the person that was calling the shots was in like adx he was like a high-ranking just gonna say mafia member in adx that was basically taking these taxes from these people getting collections from like gangs all across america and stuff and like sending kites yeah and he he wraps up the book basically with this grand conclusion that how crazy is it that this shit is happening in the most beautiful city in one of the most beautiful neighborhoods and it's being like torn down into squalor by a guy who's like under the jail and somehow he still has the capability to be a puppet master from so far away and i feel like that was just such a like you know it's a really uh what would you say when an interview like sucks you in yeah like engaging engaging like i was fully there for the story and then to hear that was the end i was just like fuck dude like these people were destroying lives someone was beheaded all for the pros like for the whatever prospering of a man that's like ever going to see the light of day that's kind of like one like that's like literally like my whole point is like that's the word where it gets backwards with that being said um we have to end when we're supposed to begin i hope a lot of y 'all that are about to tune in in five minutes wind up watching the whole thing yeah but we were like we had to go live at 10 today y 'all but we'll at the regular time skeleton crew we made it I think it was a good show yeah yeah yeah this was the best show this week I can't even hold you I like this I like this little trio I will say the Lord's Supper style shows that y 'all were doing when I was gone with 10 people 6 people that's crazy that was a dope photo I was really happy I was in the middle that was the great for Last Supper that was hard that was hard alright first one Smoke Show 177 brother this hip hop stop bringing up the black struggle into every debate?

1:41:52We get it, bro. The hip-hop is about the black struggle. Next, Rene. We get it, bro. We don't yet know. It's going to be that. Thank you for being a member, though. Yeah, shout out to you. Dragonite Crip, Ant marked out whack, which means he coming for you, Ricky. Watch out. Whack only goes after civilians. Trust me. I knew. I knew it was going to get hot for me. Damn, baby. Stop stealing. Lush, can I get a oon? Oh, you got that coming, player. Yes, Hersky. Gangster Croc. Cuh, y 'all started early today. cuz skip the rest of my classes today. Cam Kruger is cack, so it's worth it. Oh, hey, Gangsta Kroc.

1:42:24Honestly, Gangsta Kroc, I can't believe you felt skipped like that. I'm very, like, yeah. I feel like that's a glaring. That college getting into your mind, Gangsta Kroc, is changing you. Yeah, Gangsta Kroc, bro. Like, you would have, the old Gangsta Kroc would have never. Never. Never. Come on, brother. Stay on your square. Joey D Joe 562 Ricky always cutting somebody off to have the most BS to take over I apologize for the cutting off but my takes are fucking fire you guys are just simple Gangsta Crock oh I forgot Tamker you gotta tell us about the Sundance like who is slagging them draws and all oh my god I was invited to a Wikipedia party.

1:43:15It was a lot of hipsters. They were playing weird music. We were drinking rare wines and they had like, what's the Japanese liquor? They had sake, they had soju. It was a vibe. It was cool. A white man did assault a congressman at another Sundance lounge. I won't give you the details, but you can Google that. Yes. So they were outside, they were turnt. Wow. Sounds hot. OG Duddy. We already did that Boss Renegade 14 Tam brings great discussions, input and POV of women. She represents the women watching more than Jaleese ever will. No shade. Her emojis has definitely shaved. We do appreciate the Tam love and shout to Jaleese.

1:44:00Thank you. Shout to Jaleese. Okay. OG Duddy. We talked to him earlier. Kim didn't write her raps. Kim was better than Foxy. Her rapping period, not just the monster verse, what reference track we read that we don't give a damn about fashion we only talk about rap lush who said they wrote for nikki safari lmo just spitting facts i ain't no fucking barb it's giving barb i want to be good in the 43rds so so you feel me i ain't gonna i ain't gonna slam you i too bad brother but with that being said we do appreciate everybody for watching shouts and Nathan for holding it down. Shots to Stevie. Shots to Josh.

1:44:41Shots to Mikey. And shots to Tuster. And we'll be back tomorrow with the news. Much love. Peace.