In short
Indian Boy (Trey Dub) discusses growing up in Lancaster/AV661, Hustler Crip identity, gang life, surviving being shot at 14, dropping out of school, having 11 kids, and starting to take rap seriously. He also talks about rapping/turnup culture, local support, and plans for new music.
Guests
Indian Boy is the main guest. The host is No Jumper’s Adam22/“No Jumper” interviewer (referred to as “Whack” in the transcript). No other guests appear as interviewees.
Key claims
He says he was raised on Kettering St/3rd St East in Lancaster after his parents separated; he claims he got shot in a drive-by-like incident while younger; he says he dropped out in 10th/11th grade; he claims 11 kids with 8 baby mamas and says he’s “raw dog” and has had a couple abortions; he claims no indictments in his area though police are present.
Notable examples
Halloween fight “5 against 30”; the shooting where he says bullets hit his leg/chest/back and he almost passed out; first jail time at ~17 for Sky vodka/open container and driving without a license/warrant; Blueface show in Lancaster where his family attended and he felt local recognition; he says he started rapping around 15 and released only about three videos so far.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGrowing Up in Lancaster
0:45 to 1:15
Discussion about Indian Boy's childhood and upbringing in Lancaster.
“and uh interested in in lancaster and palmdale and that whole area and got their eyes open got They're eyes and they're ears open right now.”
Living Conditions and Community
1:15 to 2:15
Exploring the living conditions and environment in Lancaster.
“All right, so let's do the childhood thing a little bit.”
Perceptions of Lancaster
2:15 to 3:23
Indian Boy shares his views on how outsiders perceive Lancaster.
“Beach Ave, and all through that motherfucker.”
Gang Culture and Influences
3:23 to 4:03
Discussion on gang culture in Lancaster and its effects on youth.
“But would you say it's like easier to avoid politics or drama out there just because it's like people are more spread out, everybody ain't just like on top of each other?”
Early Exposure to Violence
4:03 to 6:11
Indian Boy recounts his early experiences with violence and crime.
“We got right now burying their homies where we live and where we stay at.”
Becoming Involved in Gang Life
6:11 to 7:40
Exploration of how Indian Boy got involved in gang life and its repercussions.
“And shit, from there forward, it was doors kicked down.”
School Life and Challenges
7:40 to 10:11
Discussion about school experiences and challenges faced in a gang environment.
“He's trying to catch me before I fall in.”
Life After Dropping Out
10:11 to 11:38
Insights into Indian Boy's life after leaving school and becoming a father.
“Yeah, you got it right on your forehead, huh?”
Parenting and Responsibilities
11:38 to 14:00
Indian Boy discusses the challenges of parenting with multiple children.
“Man, shout out my thirsty s*** to Barstow.”
Introduction to Life on the Streets
14:00 to 14:32
Learn about the guest's early life and circumstances leading to his struggles.
“Hey, look, if y 'all know, y 'all know, Free Guapo, Dead Homies.”
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Becoming a Father: The Challenges
14:32 to 16:00
The guest discusses becoming a father at a young age and managing relationships with multiple partners.
“Nah, so after, uh, after 11th grade, I ended up having, uh, oh, no, this is before I dropped out, 10th grade year, I ended up having my first kid.”
Experiences with the Law
16:00 to 17:51
The guest shares his experiences with being arrested and the impact it had on him.
“You ain't getting no dick snipped or no nuts snipped.”
Rapping: Early Inspirations
17:51 to 19:46
The guest talks about his early influences in rap and how he got started in music.
“Me and my brother and them, I don't know if Gido will remember.”
Taking Music Seriously
19:46 to 22:11
The transition from casual rapping to pursuing a serious music career and releasing videos.
“But it seems like you started taking it more serious like over the last year.”
Building a Local Presence
22:11 to 24:24
The guest reflects on his growing recognition in the local music scene and community support.
“So before I started dropping, right, bro gonna vouch for this.”
Identity and Name Significance
24:24 to 27:00
Discussion about the significance of the guest's name and identity in relation to his heritage.
“But, yeah, I mean, I don't know, like, how much you record or how much you're actually working on the music.”
Connecting with the Community
27:00 to 28:00
The guest shares about his experiences connecting with the community and support during performances.
“If he performs there, it'll be a crazy moment for him.”
Crowd Reactions and Connections
28:00 to 28:39
Explore the dynamics of crowd reactions at a recent show and the support from fellow artists.
“I didn't expect to have a little wave that was actually rocking with a nigga.”
The Journey from Lancaster
28:40 to 30:38
Discuss the artist's background and the importance of representation from Lancaster in the music scene.
“He was out there in a wheelchair giving it up on me.”
Local Support and Hesitations
30:39 to 31:54
Analyze the local support for artists and the hesitance in adopting homegrown talent.
“and get, like, more and more attention put on other people as well, you know?”
Studio Experiences and Rivalries
31:55 to 33:08
Share experiences booking studio time and dealing with gang rivalries in the industry.
“so I'm not going to put nobody's name out there, but I tapped in with the dude.”
Motivation and Financial Struggles
33:09 to 33:51
Discuss the financial motivations behind pursuing music and the challenges faced.
Influences and Inspirations
33:52 to 35:39
Explore the artist's musical influences and their thoughts on current trends.
“You're not struggling, but I'm saying like we not in a place where I go buy me a GLE or CL63.”
Future Plans and Projects
35:40 to 38:13
Discuss upcoming projects and the artist's vision for their music career.
“I don't give a f*** about nobody's politics, bro.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02That's the sound of zero sugar, 200 milligrams of caffeine and the power to burn body fat. Storm, energy for life. Storm Energy Blend helps boost metabolism, which in combination with exercise and a healthy diet helps burn fat. This product alone does not produce weight loss. Individual results may vary. No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today I am presenting y 'all with the first ever Indian Boy interview. How you doing? You know you got gang in this. Definitely I got gang. I got Lancaster in this. dead homies so everybody you brought through is from lancaster pretty much it's all my brothers my homies my little cutty my brother-in-law we are from the av from out the 661 for sure nice that's what's up i'm getting familiar you know i went to the blue face show out there got a little bit of culture saw what was going on but i feel like the people are uh they're intrigued and uh interested in in lancaster and palmdale and that whole area and got their eyes open got They're eyes and they're ears open right now.
0:57For sure. Nigga ain't dropping no. Look at that. We got their eyes open and got motherfuckers paying attention for sure. Definitely. I was just telling my partners, man, I done brought the eye to the city. Y 'all niggas do y 'all thing, man. And y 'all finna see more at Lancaster for sure. Hell yeah. That's what's up. All right, so let's do the childhood thing a little bit. What kind of situation you grew up in? Shit, I was born in Panorama City, right? I was raised on Kettering Street. Kettering and 3rd Street East. That's behind Eastside Park. That's behind A.V. Hall. That's behind Desert Winds.
1:32If you're from Lancaster, then you know that. And I wasn't even from the hood then. You know, one parent household, but you feel me? Moms for sure made sure we were straight. You feel me? So, Panama City is around there? Panama City is like around the corner. Oh. Somewhere in the valley somewhere. Right. But my whole life, I was raised in Lancaster. Okay. Do you know what the circumstances were that your parents ended up moving around there?
1:58separation. They just separated. They separated, did their own thing. Moms moved us to Palmdale first, and after Palmdale, then we ended up moving to Lancaster and from there, we went from Nico Bar, Kettering, Cedar Ave, Beach Ave, and all through that motherfucker. 10th Street and I, and all through there, you feel me, tearing that motherfucker up. For sure. So how would you describe growing up out there though like what was the environment like how crazy was it hey lancaster is cool it's it's it's not too crazy until you run into some uh who's uh willing to set an example on them we ain't out here to play we ain't we're not boasting or none of that you come here and like i told you man get left out here you know they ain't bushing so you got a lot of to come to lancaster and they want to come here to settle down or duck off.
2:55We're not doing no ducking off. We ain't doing no tail tucking. We all saw it and we on that, for sure. But it seems like a lot of people from LA have at some point had the bright idea to move out to the Antelope Valley to kind of get away from all the gang s*** and the craziness and everything. That s*** is going on. It's going on right now and like I said, it ain't no ducking that s***. When you move out there and you move wrong, it will get done to your ass. Definitely. But would you say it's like easier to avoid politics or drama out there just because it's like people are more spread out, everybody ain't just like on top of each other?
3:36Man, just search up the AV scanner, man. This shit's not spread out. It's so small in Lancaster. You really got to watch your steps. You know what I'm saying? You ain't walking no egg crates. You can get your ass ate up out here. Nobody's safe. Can't hide here. None of that. that come here, niggas know. Right now, they burying niggas. You seem like you think that we're in Lancaster right now because you keep saying here. You come here. When I say here, I'm repping my city. So when I say here, I'm not going to say there because we here with it. So you feel me? We got right now burying their homies where we live and where we stay at.
4:11And those are the guys that got left there. Not no game. And I'm not trying to know, but that's just facts. For sure. Do you have any memories of seeing some crazy when you were a kid that really like showed you what was possible? Me and my brothers, man, on Halloween. Then we over there on Andale, Andale and Fifth East. Freak K9, me and my dog, we with my dog and them. We come outside and long story short, it's like five against 30, and we out there squabbing, doing our thing, but we just some little dudes. How old are you in this story? I'm about 14. My brother's about, what, 12? Some young, you feel me?
4:54We was out there just doing our things. Stood on our 210, squabbled up. You had to fight 30 dudes? We got our ass whipped down, but we did our thing, though, you feel me? Yeah, on me. We outlawed now. I f***ed the BRGs. You know, we was squabbling with them. What's BRGs? Yeah, shout out Teddy G for BRG. That's my boy now. That's from Lancaster. That's out there in Lancaster. But back growing up, you know, you got to feel before you can feel a nigga. For sure. When did you first get exposed to game banging in general? So after Lancaster of us living right there off of 3rd Street and Kettering, my mom ended up moving us to California City, just trying to basically get us away from a lot of shit we was exposed to because I haven't always been from 3rd Street East.
5:37So when she moved us out there, I met two homies, which is Lil Jacob Pong, shout-out boy, and K-9. It's my boy locked down right now. Shout-out him, free him. I met these, started hanging out with these, and I ended up getting popped on me. Me and brother hanging out outside. Mom like, man, you know y 'all supposed to be in the house and this and that. As soon as mom went to Walmart, we on the next clock. Y 'all saw it, you feel me? So me and brother, we go over there with these. They finna go check us. And I ended up, long story short, we checked up on something and this and that. I ended up getting popped that night.
6:11And shit, from there forward, it was doors kicked down. Shit, it's already up. I got shot with the homie Mama. I ain't gonna lie me shout out lady hurt it's good damn I got shot in my back and shit shot in my chest he was a young so he across the street laying down over there in the shower laying down trying to dodge this what's going on in the real world wait really you were in the shower and the house got shot up and you ended up like having to dodge bullets in the shower there's plenty of bullets that's insane also I don't think I've ever complimented somebody's hat before but that hat is cool as oh they don't see that it has the simpsons logo on this side and then it got the clouds like the simpsons intro i walked into mom's house and grabbed it off the shelf that's hard oh god shout out mom said you got a mom's here you grab a little bit of anything over there oh um wait but so that situation where y 'all got shot up was that like him being in the shower it sounds like a drive-by i ended up i was younger So I was like...
7:15So look, I ended up getting shot, right? And then when I ended up getting shot... That's crazy. Brother was across the street. Brother was across the street. I got them crickets. Watch out. Hey, so brother across the street, but he not knowing because he's just trying to duck. I'm over there. I got smacked in my leg first. Boom. I ran to the door. I see my canine. He got his arms open like he's trying to catch me because he see what's going on. He's trying to catch me before I fall in. I'm not knowing I'm hitting my chest. So after I fell in, and brother like, nigga, he like, hold on, bro, you hit.
7:51I'm like, I'm hit? What? I look down, and the bullet is coming out slow as a ****. You feel me? I kind of brushed it off, and we just laid down in that ****, you know? So, yeah, it's like it's a lot that come behind it. And then, you know, I got shot with the homie mom. So after all this ****, man, I ended up riding to the hospital with her and ****, and she holding on to me, stressing me out, got me overstimulated. I ain't going to lie. Damn. But you were all right? Yeah, yeah. I was 14, though. I almost passed and shit, but I was straight. Woke up. I was good. What, you almost bled out? I had eternal bleeding.
8:25So it pierced my lung, and then it hit my rib, and then it came out my back. I mean, no, it came up and it went out my chest. Damn. That's serious. Yeah. Okay, so how far are you making it to school? So, I was at Phoenix, man. I was at Phoenix North. We're f***ing up. I was over there squabbling over brother. No cap. Get dope. Get dozed with that motherfucker. Yeah. Shaking the ground and that m***a. Dead homies. So, school was crazy every day? Man, I went to 11th grade, right? I ended up dropping out before 11th grade. Brother got into a squabble. Them red dudes over there, right? Came over there like six, seven deep.
9:06Dead homies. And we boogie down on s***. I'm God, tell me I'm lying. Damn. Sign back into that just to do what we do. We got a program proper, right? We ain't gonna just bring the rollers out. So you were seeing ops in school like every day? Hell yeah, for sure. And dudes fighting school like all the time or you try to keep it chill while you're in school? We on that. We on that. I'm gonna who you is instead of on that. We on that, for sure. Is that part of like why you ended up dropping out? Is it because it was just hectic every day? I was tired of doing homework. Tired of that. I ain't going to lie.
9:43I was ready to get to it. I had already got shot and shit. I was already introduced to my hood. And they was over there getting money. They offered it on H and 14th and 3rd Street. You feel me? They over there getting money. I didn't give a about school. I'm trying to get me some chip. I was already driving at 16. I mean, so how were dudes getting money at that time? I mean, you don't got to say nothing that you did. We was rapping and dancing. Okay. Dead homies. We're just rapping and dancing. That's the truth. Jackson 5. Yeah. Something like it. The Jackson 3. That style. The Jackson 3. Jackson 3.
10:19Jackson 3. Oh, we banging the 3 today? That's what we on? Every day. I hope the camera can see it. Oh, because you just got that. I've seen that. Yeah, you got it right on your forehead, huh? We got it right on your forehead, huh? We got it right on your forehead. Damn. So, okay. Let's break it down, though. You're from Hustler Crypt. At first, when I seen you, I'm looking at the HC on your face, trying to figure out what kind of Hoover you were. Yeah, that's funny. Then I figured out, okay, he's a hustler crip. But you banging the threes, so y 'all are trays? Yeah, we from 3rd Street, East, and Avenue Odd.
10:47Okay. Not going to lie. Eastside Park, you know, where Crackhead, 3rd Street Hustlers. And shit. All you got to do is just jump off the E-Way, come down Odd, make a right, jump out to a car. You're going to see what the f*** is going on. For sure. For sure. So, um, we be in all kind of so really, yeah, we be in all, we not just buckets here and there and we in all kind of shit. So when you pull up, you might try to miss it, but we all saw it for sure. For sure. All right. So, I mean, yeah, but like growing up, what would you say? Like the lifestyle was like, what kind of shit were y 'all doing when you're like, you know, 16 after school, hanging out on the block, et cetera.
11:27I'm just trying to like people like what the lifestyle is like in Lancaster. 16 after school. Right. because I was still in school at 16, but after school, yeah, after school, we was driving around, man. We was in and out of Barstow. Man, shout out my thirsty s*** to Barstow. Man, I ain't gonna lie. We was in and out of Barstow. We all in Vegas. We was just young, man, with motion. We made this s*** look good to old-ass s*** that was over there off a wall post, man. I was over there, yeah, had this s*** going on. Everybody is a s***. We wouldn't give a s*** if the engine was breaking, bro. Swear to God, we on the road.
12:03Yeah, we getting there. Okay, so Vegas being relatively close, that's like a common trip for y 'all to take her? Yep, yep. Would you go to Vegas more or L.A. more? Both. Yep, both. We kind of switch it up. Nigga, around and take a plane ride from Vegas, 30 minutes. You right here. It's that easy. Oh, you just take a plane? You don't even drive? We'll just take a plane. I mean, if we got to drive, then we'll drive. But if we want to get here, take that little 30-minute issue. Like what, 110, whatever, 120? I mean, you're going to Vegas to party and turn up versus you go to L.A.? I don't even know.
12:40Yeah, and also, I got my kids out there. I got kids out there in Vegas, and then we got homies. And then H.I.P., Lil' K-9, my little brother from the section, he ended up passing on out there and shit, you feel me? He was out there boogying down on the heels from the section. I'm God. For sure. So do you view, well, okay, was it like already like written in stone that you were going to be from the hood that you ended up being from, or was there ever like a possibility that shit was going to go a different way? I said I ain't never knew this shit, but I found it crazy that I grew up on Third Street, and then somewhere down the line I end up from Third Street.
13:22I never had heard of my hood when I lived on Third Street. You feel me? Because you're just a kid? Yup, I was just a young dude. But yeah, figured it out down the line and shit. Nigga been over there ever since. For sure. Like, are the cops on it with y 'all to a crazy extent? You hear about gang injunctions and all kinds of crazy shit in LA and other cities. Like, is it like that out there as well? Like, is there an overwhelming police presence? Free guap. I'm guap. Yup. They outside, but they - Free guap. Ain't no indictments and shit going on out there. Okay. But they outside. Hey, look, if y 'all know, y 'all know, Free Guapo, Dead Homies.
14:04Really a stepper from this 300 shit, man. What, he kill a cop or something? That's what you're saying? Free my homie. You're alluding to something. I just don't know what. Nah, just, you know, when you asked about, you know, Free Guapo. Googly. Great googly moogly. Um, okay, wait, so, all right, you dropped out of school in 11th grade, then, like, what's your life, like, around that era? Like, you didn't go to community college or nothing, I'm guessing? Nah, so after, uh, after 11th grade, I ended up having, uh, oh, no, this is before I dropped out, 10th grade year, I ended up having my first kid.
14:45and then once I ended up dropping out, you know what I'm saying, I was, you know what I'm saying, sold it to the streets and shit. I was, shit, more or less getting money, making babies, shit. I got eight baby mamas. I got eight baby mamas. I got 11 kids. Whew. Yup. I feel stressed out just thinking about that. That's insane. Hey, look, this shit stressful, man, but this shit is real life. This shit real. So I'm guessing you can't even back up out of parking spot, huh? You just stuck in there. That bitch might be there with a knife. Just feels too good. You can't pull out.
15:25No condom. I've been there. My whole life, I've been a little too on point. I'm a raw dog, gang. I'm not going to fake it. I like the feeling. I'm the feeling type of guy. There's no other option. It's crazy. One day, I'm going to have to tell my kids. I got a plan B in my back door right now. on my car. You got it on deck. Hell yeah. That's the only other option. Yeah, I'm through now. You done having kids? Hell yeah. You gotta get that vasectomy. No. I heard that shit hard. You can reverse it later on, no problem. I don't know. I'm cool on that. I hear a great thing. I'm thinking about getting my snipped.
16:05That's intense as well. You say the water shit, bro. You ain't getting no dick snipped or no nuts snipped. You ain't him no more once you do that nigga you ain't him no you're still not it just don't have nothing in it that's your whack you can't make no baby niggas yeah but think about the games that you could play with a girl you could tell her i love you i want to have a baby with you just shoot the club up she baby you about to have my baby that's you he's gonna be turning like you gonna have this baby yeah she'll be waiting for 18 months yeah she's gonna be waiting and waiting and waiting until she realized that shit ain't ever coming ain't no baby that's grimy get a vasectomy and never tell Tell us all.
16:40I'm good, though, man. I ain't. I got 11 kids, though. You with one of the baby mamas now or no? Hell yeah. Oh, okay. She's somewhere out. Oh, she's here. She's sitting down somewhere. Yeah. Definitely. So, I mean, the first baby must have felt like a big deal. Yeah, that was a big deal. I mean, shit, she the one that opened my eyes up to this shit. You feel me? She can't stand me like I'm up. You know? She opened my eyes up to this life, to this real life shit. Right. So, yeah. So, I don't know, somewhere along the way, whether it's maybe four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, there's got to be like a moment where you're like, I can't keep doing this.
17:17It's too expensive. This is craziness. Hell no. I wasn't pulling up. It was in it. I ain't going to. And you don't believe in abortion, I'm guessing? Or you have a few abortions along the way too? No, yeah, I got a couple. I got a couple. What's in? Shout out to my 11 kids. How old's the oldest one? Hey, so, Jake, she's 15. She's 15, yep. For sure. All right, so along the way, all those years of you being in the streets and whatnot, you get arrested, you get locked up. Man, hell yeah. Me and my brother and them, I don't know if Gido will remember. Me, Gido, K-9, we at Lancaster City Park drinking Sky Vodka.
18:00You know, the blue bottle of Sky Vodka. Oh, yeah. The roller was yanked up on the n***a. What the? We had a Honda posted up. They put a nigga under. I had a warrant, so they grabbed a nigga, put a nigga under. Okay. That was my first time ever going to jail. Went right here to Silmar Hall right here. Okay. I was probably like 17 then. About to be 18, 17. How eye-opening was that, getting locked up? You get put on a seat. Them niggas took me to jail for a bottle of liquor, right, and driving a car with no license. Right. That was bullshit. which like to normal people probably sounds like a reason to get arrested for having an open container in a car but from your perspective you're like there's all this other i'm doing y 'all got me for this y 'all looked over all this other and y 'all came for this yeah well and you had a warrant you said yeah it was like for driving with no license and see i was young like i said i had a car at 16 so we always just be wiggling but so when you were locked up though i let go for that They said, you got a suspended license.
19:06I said, what the fuck? That's like the main time you got locked up or it was other times as well? I got locked up after that. A bunch of times? I got locked up after that a lot of times. We been in and out there. Oh, yeah? Yeah, for small shit. You managed to avoid prison like that? Yeah, I ain't never been. Who wants to go there? I've never been there. No, yeah, for sure. But okay So at what point You start rapping You been rapping Since you were a kid Or I started rapping When I was 15 Right But shit I started rapping Forever I started rapping When I was 15 Rapping up the street With a nigga bro Like I was young Like being irritated And shit He rapping the whole way Home and shit Like bro Been rapping forever Turn the beat off And shit Like you never shut up Whole time you driving Like you feel me And uh I ain't gonna lie That shit got me you this far, nigga.
20:00Yeah. You feel me? But it seems like you started taking it more serious like over the last year. Yeah, in March. I ain't gonna lie. In March, I brought my homies out. My homies came out behind me and these showed me that it don't matter about who said this or that or who, you know, not with you or whatever. Just do you. And damn near took too long to do it. But so when I started doing me, that's when I was able to realize, like, I could do this shit by myself. And whether my people with me or behind me, I'm such a real I'ma still bring my outside. Dead homies. That's how Lancaster do shit. We not like LA, bro.
20:35Look, we went through shit and bumped. I'm talking about bumped. Broke the kitchen table. And we still finna link up. When this nigga called me, we finna do that because, bro, that's how Lancaster connect. And it's my blood brother, but I'm talking about my homies. My homies, my brother-in-law, my cutty. It's my cutty right here. All these standing around. That's how we bump out there in Lancaster. Don't nobody go unnoticing. and we not let nobody take the under, you know? We own that every time. So do you feel like you guys are more like a family unit than some other? Yep, yep, yep. Trey Block and 2-7, dead looks.
21:11You feel me? If it's not that, I mean, I don't really know what it is. It's really, you know? Like I said, we ally with certain people, but Trey Block and 2-7, that's a family for sure. Yep. That's what's up. But so do y 'all, like, connect with anybody in L.A. or do you have, like, any kind of ties with her? I connect with the A14 Hustlers. And when I say the A14 Hustlers, that's from Lancaster to L.A. all the way to Washington. I connect with all of them. If you're from Hustler Crypt, then we locked in. Okay. I ain't going to lie. So is Hustler Crypt big in L.A.? Hell, yeah. I'm getting from you.
21:48Y 'all going to see me out here August 14th, man. I don't know where we going to be. You feel me? It's still loading. But, yeah. What, you gonna do a show or something? Yeah, I'm gonna perform that. Yeah, I know, for sure. Oh, nice. That's what's up. Yeah. But okay, when you start rapping, though, like you decided to really kind of make a run at it and like actually shoot some professionally shot videos and like that, you just felt like, you know, you've been doing your thing long enough. It was time. I ain't gonna lie, right? So before I started dropping, right, bro gonna vouch for this. Bro wanted me to make some booty shaking music for the b****.
22:17He like, make that shit for the hoes, right? But just the inner me is I gotta give it to him raw, right? We gonna still do the booty shaking for the hoes. We got some shit coming. The inner me, I had to give it to him, bro. And when I gave it to him, bro, it presented all of us. Not just me or the ****. It presented all of us, bro. And I feel like that put a big-ass eye on Lancaster. They finna shut they **** mouth in just a second. No, I feel like you are smart to trust your instinct. Because my theory is that every rapper, even if you want to end up being a **** Bruno Mars or you want to be a booty shaking artist or whatever, you better start rapping on the block.
22:54Your first videos, you got to be the people need to see that you came from a real place before they can take you serious doing other things. But look, it's so cold, right? Because brother he got a style like this. He put the two fingers shit, you know what I'm saying? With the gangsta shit, with the booty shaking shit. So cuz shit like shaking the room. I just heard some shit with Get Do and RJ dead homies. I said loop the beat on dead looks. I'm going to go ahead and jump on that for sure. We got some, you know, but it's still going to be letting them know what we got going on and then let them know that we're waking up this summer, 2026.
23:33Definitely. Waking the summer up. I mean, I know I reached out to you from just like seeing your videos and stuff like that, but have you had like a lot of different people reaching out and showing love? Shout out to Zion, bro. Bro, this, uh, man, I tapped in with him through my cutty, right? Boom. Oh, God. and I tapped in with him through my cutty, he came out, came to our city, and shit, through the grace of God, and then him showing up, I was able to get an eye from you, you feel me? It's my boy, so shout out Zion, dead homies. Nah, that's what's up. But, okay, so you only put out what, three videos?
24:12Three videos, I got one right now, finna put you in it. Oh, there we go. Yeah, you in it, the big homie. Let's get it. Don't get the Birkenstocks in it. They didn't really play it, you know? Don't get the old ass 11s in there. Oh, no, no. I have to grab these old ass 11s. My cameo, got to cut the feet off. But, yeah, I mean, I don't know, like, how much you record or how much you're actually working on the music. Were those just, like, three best songs you had? Shit, since we just putting it out there, so all the shit that I got right now, this is shit that I recorded last year. I was just focused last year.
24:45I was by myself for a little minute. I was able to sit down and just think, and I made like six songs. So everything that I'm dropping now is all the shit that I made. And like the last one, Step Form is featuring my little brother, Chase O. You feel me? Yeah. I don't know if you've seen that one. I sent it to you. Oh, it's the newest one? Step Form. Yeah, yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, yeah. That shit hard. But how'd you get the name Indian Boy? So my mama is Cherokee Indian, right? And then she's a little bit of white, and all that. So I used to call myself the Black Piscas. My mom's like, we ain't Mexican.
25:25So I'm like, all right, mama. You feel me? I know what we really are and shit. So I'm like, man, I'm going to just put the Indian boy in front of the dub. My name from Lancaster is Trey Dub. That's my name. 320, Trey Dub. But Indian boy is like a rap name that I'm comfortable with. But I still, I put the dub. If you ever hear my songs, I say it's Dub. up oh okay so out there knows honey they know who want you oh that's what's up yeah i mean that's one thing i realized as time goes by that everybody got kind of like a sneaky hood name you gotta like you gotta put the rap name on it and then squiggle the hood name in there you know the rollers beyonce but that's what's funny too is that dude ducking the rollers hey we ducking the rollers dudes have a rap name no police that sounds like some hard ass and then they'll have a hood name that sounds like some that they were calling them when they were 13 or whatever.
26:15That's what they was calling me when I was five. Yeah, see? Yeah, Trey Dub. I like 20s. Yeah. That's crazy. My stepdad gave me that name. Okay, so you never had, I'm not a lot, like I think the reason why I probably clicked your video in the first place is because when I saw Indian Boy, I immediately think of Indian Red Boy who's from out here and basically like went viral for dissing the Nipsey Hussle mural and then he got on live. I don't know him. Yeah, you never had anything to do with him, no? okay so yeah that was like first i know indian blue though shout out him oh yeah third street yeah oh okay i don't know him personal but i with his music wait there's other indian boys indian blue for him but is there an indian boy lineage no you're are you down to take on i'm the only indian boy oh okay yep sure all right got it but um i don't know like so okay one thing that kind of struck me is when I had you come out, because when I saw that Blueface show in Lancaster and I was going to pull up, I said, Whack, I got this dude, Indian boy, you got to get him on the show.
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27:20That's his hometown. If he performs there, it'll be a crazy moment for him. It really kind of like launches career in a lot of people's eyes, right? And Whack is always like everybody I ever told him they need to put on a show or whatever. He always comes through. But I know that was like a special moment for you too, because even your mom and like your family members and stuff showed up in the crowd, right? You know, moms and them Moms and them always supported me. It was crazy, right? And this, you know, even though I just said I'm not Mexican or nothing because that's just the truth, but we not racist in our city.
27:48I fuck with my Mexicans. They was out there throwing eight threes up. They was moving out there. I'm like, oh, damn, they know my shit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I didn't expect to come out, and then I got a little wave, even if it was just a little wave, you know what I'm saying? I didn't expect to have a little wave that was actually rocking with a nigga. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because it was interesting crowd-wise because, like, Blue Face, it's like when he does a show the crowd is a lot of women yeah typically like i've been to a bunch of blue fest shows it's usually hella girls and and then you come out and i'm kind of like seeing in the crowd that the the dudes who are there that know about gang they're kind of the ones that are showing love and like actually like recognize you and know what you got going on that was kind of interesting that's uh lancaster games uh i'm not gonna lie they really don't with other lancaster games, but I seen a couple faces out there.
28:39Shout out to the Hoovers. Shout out Jeff 5. My KC from 9-4. That's my boy. He was out there giving it up. He was out there in a wheelchair giving it up on me. And them raised me too. KC, Bullet Loco and them, Seven Boy and them. They're my dogs. And I ain't just throwing no names around. They're really my dogs. Yep, Snick. I ain't gonna lie. Shout out him. No, that was crazy because Jab 5 got a female fan base it seems like too. because he just swole his f**k. That nigga got cracking shit. He got cracking. He don't got to do that gang shit no more, nigga. Yeah. That's what I was just saying right now.
29:12I'm finna lock in with my brother and make some s**t so we can have the b**ch that's coming in and spilling in on this. We don't got to. It don't always got to be... You know how we do it. It don't always got to be that, though, for sure. Yeah, nah, facts. You know, if s**t don't go the right way, righteous, then we can take it there. Yeah. Nah, it's definitely good to be able to hear because women are, like, passionate music fans in a way that some guys aren't. Women care about like a hit song or like a dope song. When the bitches start loving you, then that's when they play your shit for their friends.
29:42Once they play your shit for their friends, it's up. The club, we in their car when they load it. They play that motherfucker 10, 12 times in one drug. Definitely. So are you the first person from Lancaster to have any kind of motion rapping? Or is there anybody who came before you? I've been telling this shit to my family, right? It's sad as... because couldn't do this, right? And I'm not just speaking. I'm speaking on who's not us because my people been doing this shit for a minute. You know what I'm saying? But I've been doing this for years. I'm talking about the other side and them. You go to the other side and them.
30:16Everybody cool, but it took for me to open my big mouth, man, to get an eye on our city, man. So, yeah, sure. I'm probably the only person out of there besides me and my people, like I said, trade blocking 27. If it's not us, you know what I'm saying? or that's really locked in as family members, then, yeah, for sure, I'm the only one. For sure. No, that's dope, though, because, I mean, I feel like it really only takes one person from a city to sort of break shit open and get, like, more and more attention put on other people as well, you know? So it'll probably be a good thing overall for the city.
30:48Hell, yeah. Are you seeing that support, though, like, locally? Does it feel like there's an appetite for it where people want to get behind somebody from their city? I ain't going to lie. You bringing me out, you know what I'm saying? I ain't going to lie. That gave me an extra umph to, nigga, keep this shit going because, shit, nigga, they didn't just turn up because you said turn up. They like, when I came out, they like, we know this. And Adam Brody, it's on. So you feel me? Hell yeah, I feel like I got support there. I got support here. You know what I'm saying? And I got support everywhere for real, for real.
31:21You need support. For real, for real. Hell yeah. It's press and play. As long as they press and play, that's all I need. I don't give a fuck if you hate me. Press play. Yeah. Shit. But I feel like a lot of times, especially in like a small town or a smaller city, that the people need to feel like is lit beyond their city before they can like fully adopt it. Like they want to know like, oh, Adam and Wack said that he's cool. Blueface see me. Like he think he cool. All right. Like now we'll fuck with him. But if it's like just homegrown, they a lot of times like are real hesitant about getting behind something.
31:53Yeah. So before I did this show, I don't know the guy's name, so I'm not going to put nobody's name out there, but I tapped in with the dude. Boom. And I ended up booking a studio session. Boom. I clicked on his shit, and I see he know a lot of people that, you know, don't fuck me or don't like me or whatever. So when I booked it, the nigga sent my$30 back. You know who you is, nigga. He sent my money back, and then he seen me at the show. I was like, oh, I'm looking at you. And I'm like, nigga, fuck it out of my face. I was ready to slap that nigga. After I got off the stage, I came into the crowd and partied with the thugs, bro.
32:27Brought my niggas in VIP. Wait, so he rejected your studio booking? He didn't see me on stage, gang. But why'd he reject it? Because he thought you just looked like a crazy gang member? They was like from the far west of Lancaster or whatever, bro. But I don't know if they got a studio around the hood or just somewhere in there. I know where niggas be, but just I don't know the exact spot. But they ended up sending my 30 bucks back. Dead homies. True story. That's RJ. I'm not lying. I'm not lying Niggas did that shit bro And then seen me at the show And then when I came down to party with the thugs He put his hand out I lowkey daft him but I kept it pushing Damn That's crazy You think that the gang rivalries and everything will hold Lancaster back or not?
33:11No cause shit we don't We'll bump with anybody It's not about that We trying to get money now I mean like I told you earlier I dropped out of school for this shit to get money Rapping was just something fun to do but after March when I seen that 20 ,000 views I said well we here now you feel me and 20 ,000 to me is a lot cause we come from shit I don't come from shit for sure I mean picture if there was 20 ,000 people in a room that would be overwhelming picture if it was 20 ,000 dollars in my pocket when I did that video you feel me I probably wouldn't have been as amped as I was nigga I'm taking that shit personal yeah cause we dead broke doing this shit damn for sure oh wow okay yeah Hell yeah.
33:53Not like they're broke. You're not struggling, but I'm saying like we not in a place where I go buy me a GLE or CL63. I can't do that right now. So it's like, I'm putting my all into this shit. For sure. I mean, that puts it in perspective though, for sure. That like, this is like it's not just you're like some dude who's just doing it just to do it. You're doing it because you're really trying to find a way out the city. Hell yeah. Hey, I wish I could bring my kids in this motherfucker. My kids, they little ass they flip off the walls to that shit. You feel me? Hell yeah. My little sons and shit, they put that shit on repeat, man, and they actually my shit.
34:29That trips them out to see their dad rap. Hell yeah. The last video, you see them little dudes in the backseat, that's my nephew and that's my son. Oh, hell yeah. Shout out to them. That's fire. So just to know a little bit more about you, though, what would you say are the artists that you listen to the most? I with Mozzie. no cap that's what's up I listen to everybody but like a rapper that I'm inspired by you know what I'm saying that's funny that Mozzie comes up because you know that white dude that I was walking out here before you ever see Swamp Stories on YouTube nope oh okay he's like big NorCal like drama YouTuber or whatever like reports on all the beefs and shit like that I be on LA Hood Media I be on AV Scanner but yo I just asked him I just asked him, I brought up Mozzie and he just shot it down right away.
35:21He's like, nah, that's 2016. Bro, right now when you went out, you was like, this Indian boy, I'm trying to say what's up. That d*** kept pussing up in the heart. This d*** is a model. I wasn't gonna tell you who he was. I didn't want to blow his spot up. Yeah, man, I ain't trippin'. I'm here with my people. We trying to let n***s know who he is. Bro, who's your favorite rappers out of LA? Indian boy. I f*** with, I ain't gonna lie. I don't give a f*** about nobody's politics, bro. I f*** with Big Sad, 1900. Something like a n*** in his rap game. And if he not bullying this shit, he working his way through this.
35:57Every time I click on this shit, it's like a Miller better. You feel me? No, he goes crazy, yeah. Hell yeah. I just seen that nigga in Vegas. Oh, really? Yeah, nigga out there going manny. That's what's up. Niggas had like five S580s parked up. Yeah, doing some player shit. That's legit. What's the Indian boy turn up like on Friday night? What you getting into? We seen the Henny and the weed being consumed on this. Nah, that Henny is it. I be putting that on hold sometime. I got a newborn. Oh, wow. Yeah, so I only – I drink that when I could, but the weed is all day, you know, but I got a newborn, so I be mostly in the house Friday night.
36:37Shit, you got me off so I hear him, you know what I'm saying? Good Friday night, I'm in the house, for sure. For sure. It ain't shit outside, man. Yeah. But the roller is in death. You go to jail, you get your ass smoked. So you had that place in your life where you don't want to necessarily be outside on the block all night? I don't have to. I did it up already. And then on top of that shit, I'm 31 in 10 days, bro. Yeah. I don't got to do shit. I don't go outside and then get tricked out of my position when I know what I got going on. For sure. Yeah. No, that's important for sure. Yeah, for sure.
37:11so what's your plans like going forward for the next year let's say like what do you feel like you need to accomplish going in the right direction you talk to any labels at all might be a little early for that no I had a producer he kind of like known out here a little bit like in LA and shit DJ Flip Diggler Baby I don't know if you know I'm a nigga named Diggler Baby but Diggler like D-I-G-L-A Got it. Yeah. But, shit, I ain't really been tapped in, bro. I just been trying to do my own shit right now as far as just pushing all my shit out. Yeah. Definitely. But, yeah, are you trying to, like, drop a project?
37:51Are you more just focused on music videos for now? Shit, after this music video we finna do right now, we probably gonna, uh, I got one more, I got one more video I'm gonna do with my little cuzzo, and then I'm trying to do, like, a little 20 song, little project, like, you know, baby album. For sure. 20 might be a lot. 20 is a pretty long-ass album. Do 12. Gotta give me two years to just drop. I don't gotta say shit. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, facts. All right, anybody you want to shout out? Anything else that people need to know out there? Shout out K9, Free Him. Shout out my n***a Zion, Dead Homies.
38:28Shout out Get Do. God, that's better than them. Shout out My City for real, though, because shit, without y 'all, nigga this shit wouldn't even be possible for real for real. God in heaven so yeah. And then the shit they need to know is coming soon. It's finna go crazy for sure. Yeah. And nigga I got my foot on their necks right now so I don't plan on stopping. You feel me? I plan on working my way up. I'm glad. Let's get it. Oh yeah. I see the vision. Oh yeah. All right. Indian boy. Shout out Indian boy. Hold it down. Shout out the whole Lancaster. No you know AV661 in this. let's get it don't come sliding through thinking you ain't gonna get put in the headlock hell yeah I'm gonna slam a nigga for you that's good shout out Indian boy make sure you go check his shit out on YouTube and all that shout out to everybody watch this No Jumper coolest podcast in the world check out his YouTube TikTok, Instagram, like, comment, subscribe the show July the 10th is going up in Atlanta bring the ones out Good show.
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