In short
Julian Newman and his sister Jaden discuss their basketball-focused upbringing, confidence about reaching the NBA, Jaden’s college basketball path, and the fallout from leaked private videos/nudes. They also debate “plan A” vs backup careers, overseas basketball vs the NBA, and the legal/online takedown efforts (including a “Jaden Newman Act” concept).
Guest backgrounds
Julian Newman is a basketball-focused influencer/aspiring pro who describes being promised NBA opportunities and spending time in the G League; he’s also doing influencer boxing. Jaden Newman is a basketball player at Cal State LA (D2) who says Metal World Peace is an assistant coach; she also releases music and is signed with Molly Maul.
Key claims
Their father pushed relentless basketball training (waking at 5am, gym/rebounds). They say they never planned a “Plan B” mindset. Jaden’s private Snapchat/phone content was hacked and leaked; her legal team is testing takedown enforcement with per-count penalties. She denies leaking for OnlyFans and says her content is non-nude (Instagram-adjacent, private texting).
Notable examples
A scripted reality-show moment where LaMelo Ball responded “I don’t run it” to a 14-year-old asking for his Instagram; discussion of AI/Instagram link restrictions affecting adult-content promotion; mention of OnlyFans creators like Ruby Rose and Sophie Rain as examples of non-nude earnings.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGrowing Up in a Basketball Family
0:01 to 0:26
Julian and Jaden share insights about their basketball-centric upbringing.
“Late night bites with friends already hard to beat.”
Growing Up in a Basketball Family
1:16 to 1:40
Julian and Jaden share insights about their basketball-centric upbringing.
“You're on, I don't know if it was Good Morning America.”
Passion vs. Choice in Sports
1:40 to 2:15
The Newmans discuss whether basketball was a choice or a natural preference.
“insane it is to be brought up in this world and everything like that.”
Influence of Their Father
2:15 to 3:20
Julian and Jaden reflect on their father's role in their basketball journey.
“All we did, you know, it was like we loved it for sure, for sure.”
Balancing Dreams and Realities of Sports
3:20 to 6:00
A discussion on the risks and focus needed in pursuing sports careers.
“because everyone around me loved basketball.”
Other Passions Beyond Basketball
6:00 to 7:40
Exploring the importance of having interests outside of sports.
“Like how could you, I don't know, if you want to be good at something, want to go pro at something, you got to put – you're all into it.”
Confidence and Delusions in Pursuing Goals
7:40 to 10:40
The Newmans share their confidence and mindset towards achieving their dreams.
“Did you guys ever like talk about stuff like that?”
Navigating Career Choices and Challenges
10:40 to 14:00
Julian discusses his experiences with career challenges and choices in basketball.
“So I feel like that's like an important thing to prepare a kid for.”
Navigating Dreams of Basketball Success
14:00 to 14:50
Explore the challenges faced in pursuing a basketball career versus influencer opportunities.
The Perspective on Playing Overseas
14:50 to 16:30
Discuss the realities of playing overseas basketball versus staying in the U.S.
“But yeah, it's just a harder stepping stone for sure.”
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Sibling Dynamics and Career Aspirations
16:30 to 17:45
Unpack the relationship between Julian and Jaden, including their basketball journeys.
“showing the world what it's like playing overseas basketball.”
The Impact of Relationships on Siblings
17:45 to 19:17
Discuss the challenges relationships pose on sibling dynamics and friendships.
“Definitely my best friend, but she be all bullshit now.”
Growing Up in the Public Eye
19:17 to 21:45
Examine the pressure and challenges of being a public figure from a young age.
“Are you at the point where if one of your friends is interested in your sister, does that piss you off?”
Addressing Privacy and Consent Issues
21:45 to 23:49
Discuss the seriousness of consent and the implications of leaked content.
“And like, that's just how she dressed because she a basketball player.”
The Jaden Newman Act and Legal Precedents
23:49 to 26:11
Learn about the Jaden Newman Act and its implications on content leaks.
“I mean, the biggest rappers and artists and basketball players and all types of people.”
Dealing with Leak Consequences
26:11 to 28:00
Understand the personal impact of leaked private content and its aftermath.
“There's like articles and everything on it.”
Discussion on Revenge Porn Laws
28:00 to 29:20
Learn about the evolution of laws regarding revenge porn and personal experiences.
“Your girlfriend sent you a vagina picture and you put it on the internet?”
Jaden's Personal Experience with Leaks
29:20 to 31:32
Jaden shares the story of her leaked videos and the emotional impact it had on her.
“But my thing is, how does somebody hack in your Snapchat and.”
Public Reaction and Mental Struggles
31:32 to 33:20
Explore the public's reaction to Jaden's leaks and her coping mechanisms.
“Yeah cause I'm not gonna lie when I first heard about this I thought OnlyFans were all out Right?”
OnlyFans and Monetization Discussion
33:20 to 35:32
The conversation shifts to OnlyFans and how creators navigate monetization.
“Pictures basically I post on Instagram, whatever.”
Challenges for Content Creators
35:32 to 38:10
Discussing the challenges content creators face in a flooded market.
“You know if you're 30 and you want to make one it's like people are still gonna be lining up.”
Privacy Violations and Personal Accounts
38:10 to 41:37
A discussion on privacy violations and personal accounts of leaked content.
“off people like they're not allowing people to put links.”
Theories Around the Leak
41:37 to 42:00
Exploring theories regarding who might have leaked Jaden's content.
Discussion on Leaked Content and Responsibility
42:00 to 45:53
Exploration of the implications of leaked personal content and the responsibilities involved.
“So, you said, wait, T-Banks was the one to show your friend?”
Judgment and Support from Peers
45:53 to 47:59
Insights into how peers react to leaked content and the support systems available.
“People want to know what their shit look like.”
The Impact of Negative Online Narratives
47:59 to 50:59
Discussion on the prevalence of negative narratives about public figures and their effects.
“Is it the kind of thing that is even able to register or are you kind of just numb to it at this point?”
The Encounter with Uno the Activist
50:59 to 56:00
Julian recounts a controversial basketball game and the buildup to a physical confrontation.
“Let's get a little bit of perspective on that.”
Conflict and Content Creation
56:00 to 1:02:00
Julian discusses conflicts with other content creators and the implications of staged interactions.
“You know, and I said to say, no smoke with Uno.”
Transitioning to Boxing
1:02:00 to 1:03:50
Julian shares how his background in basketball prepared him for a potential boxing career.
“Actually, the only Brand Ritz belt holder right now, because that was their golden boy at the time.”
Jaden Newman's Future and Controversies
1:03:50 to 1:10:03
Julian talks about his sister Jaden's career, her talents, and public controversies surrounding her.
“Would you be the same weight class as Dean the Great?”
Discussing Upcoming Music Projects
1:10:03 to 1:10:49
Julian and Jaden share their upcoming music releases and collaborations.
Julian's Boxing and Fitness Routine
1:10:50 to 1:11:39
Julian shares his intense boxing training schedule and fitness regimen.
The Importance of Discipline in Sports
1:11:40 to 1:12:38
They discuss the role of discipline in sports and upbringing.
“I actually didn't really know that anybody worked out that hard.”
Balancing Hard Work and Recovery
1:12:39 to 1:13:28
The conversation shifts to the balance between training hard and proper recovery.
“And it's like, damn, like if I want her to be good at riding a bike in the next six months, I'm gonna have to like actually kind of make her cause her brain does not want to go and ride every day.”
Insights from Professional Fighters
1:13:29 to 1:14:12
They reflect on insights gained from talking to professional fighters about training.
Experiences with Leaked Videos
1:14:13 to 1:15:05
They share personal stories about leaked videos and their impact.
“Oh man all your sisters give f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing it's just not on camera.”
Memorable High School Experiences
1:15:06 to 1:15:53
The hosts recount memorable moments from high school concerning leaked content.
“Shout out to the girl that I was in high school with who somebody leaked videos of her doing something with a very large coke bottle and then somebody printed it out and taped it to the soda machine in class.”
Social Media and Fan Interaction
1:15:54 to 1:17:09
Julian and Jaden discuss their social media presence and fan engagement.
“Let them know if they want to tap in with you, what they should check out in terms of social media and everything like that.”
Transcript
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0:50Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today I'm bringing you some very, very viral hijinks that's been going on on the internet over the past week or so. My man Julian Newman is in the building. How you doing, brother? Along with his sister. And we're going to get into all this. How you guys doing? Good, good. How are you? Excellent. I mean, you guys came a long way because I was watching, you know, I'm not a sports guy or a basketball guy at all, but I'm kind of digging in the crates and I'm finding these going around at you guys doing the media rounds.
1:27You're like 12 years old. You're on, I don't know if it was Good Morning America. It was, right? Okay. And that kind of like puts it in perspective of how crazy you guys' childhood was and how insane it is to be brought up in this world and everything like that. So I guess like before we even get into like current events, I guess I'm just curious about like, tell us a little bit about the environment that you guys grew up in and what the attitude was towards sports and making it in sports. Yeah. Me personally, you know, it was basketball. That's all we did. Basketball family. Ever since I can remember, you know, we had recognition.
2:03Even when I was young, you know, always was the best around. But besides that, stuff started picking up. When I was 11, she was like 8. Yeah, I was like 8 or 9. Yeah, so it was different. It was really basketball. All we did, you know, it was like we loved it for sure, for sure. Some would say, oh, it's for us, this and that. No, we loved basketball. We loved the process, you know what I'm saying? That's all we did. That's why we ate, slept, drank basketball. And do you think, because, okay, I have a five-and-a-half-year-old daughter, and sometimes it occurs to me of, like, I could get her into something and just have her hammer, like, you know, ballet, gymnastics, whatever.
2:41Like, right now does it on, like, a casual level, but sometimes I think about that, like, is there going to be a moment where, like, she gets really into one? And do you feel like basketball was a choice, or do you feel like it was so present in your life that you didn't really consider other sports or other types of activities? I feel like for me, it was a choice for sure. Because when I was younger, I did other things. I did cheer. I did ballet when I was younger. And then growing up, we were just surrounded so much. So I just grew to love basketball. Yeah, I agree. It was a choice for sure, but it was also not a choice because everyone around me loved basketball.
3:22I didn't grow up around like things that were like football was cool we did it in the street it was cool but basketball was the cool thing people were playing soccer it's cool but you're not that's not your world it's not like I don't know you know the helmet thing in football like you gotta be a quarterback to be known like all these things were like put in my mind at a young age basketball you gonna be known if you're good at it like you don't wear no helmets in a sense so I don't know no definitely okay well tell me about your dad's role in it which for the record he is in the room So if they seem a little hearted, that would be why.
3:54But how much like, because, okay, there's a lot of famous stories about somebody like Tiger Woods, where his dad from like one years old was like constantly drilling golf into his head. Now we have examples like the Ball family and stuff like that. It's kind of becoming like more of a thing that people understand of like basketball families. Do you feel like your dad took it over the top? Or was it like a purely healthy level of interest in the game? In my opinion he kind of paved the way For a lot of like The only thing I can say he might have copied was like a Joe Jackson Tiger Woods father Shit like that he crazy for sure He ain't beat nobody to play basketball But he waking up at 5am He's catching all rebounds Taking us to the gym So it's definitely like I think he paved the way for people like the Ball brothers And shit like that Obviously they're far$300 million contracts You know what I'm saying They doing their thing but we we came before that before like as a family as a father who is oh doing too much trying to get their kids somewhere that was my dad you know before then all you have is you know like i said joe jackson and serena williams father like stuff like that but yeah that's yeah because it's it's like a thin line between just genuinely getting your kids into sports because sports are healthy and good for you and it's great to be running around getting exercise we live in a country where like everybody's fat as shit and like getting your kid like burning a thousand calories a day running up around the court it's amazing but then at the same time like i don't know it's like sometimes it feels like if you just put your kid into this world especially basketball being something where way less than one percent of people who are hardcore into it will really make it was do you remember having conversations like that like you can be passionate about basketball but also putting all your eggs in one basket is not always the best move because injuries, everything.
5:50There's so many ways that it could not work out, right? So, shoot, I want you to answer. But for me, it was the opposite. Like if you had a plan B, you don't believe in plan A. Yeah. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like how could you, I don't know, if you want to be good at something, want to go pro at something, you got to put – you're all into it. You're all into it for sure. You see anybody that's made it to anything probably had a good amount of time putting their all into that one thing. That's what I had to say. Yeah, no, the same thing. Yeah, we were taught if you have a plan B, you don't really believe in yourself.
6:20So only really plan A, really. And then now what I had to say now is I still think the same thing for sure. I think if you want plan A, you got to go with plan A. Having plan B is like, oh, that shit going to fail. So when it fails, yeah, it's being smart. A lot of people be like, oh, that's dumb as shit. It's delusional. But the biggest people in the world are delusional, bro. The biggest people that are doing it were delusional at a certain point. Yeah. And it became reality, you know? So, okay, I come from, like, the BMX freestyle world and everything like that, right? And over the years, I've seen so many times where, like, a dude would be a pro rider or, like, you know, on his way to becoming a pro rider or something like that.
6:57And then he, like, tears his ACL. And it's all of a sudden this crazy dynamic happens because it's, like, over time I got used to feeling, like, this could be good for him. or it could be really, really, really bad. Because the really bad side of it is this guy can never ride the way he used to. He's never going to really be a pro or whatever the way that he thought he was going to. And he now has all this free time and realistically, I mean, best case scenario, maybe they stream nowadays, get into some creative pursuit. But a lot of people I knew back in the day, they get into pills, they start smoking way too much weed, all of a sudden they're just not the same person that they used to be.
7:36So I've always thought about it. Like if my kid ended up being really excited about a particular sport or something that I would probably want to be like, look, I get that you are this passionate about this physical activity, but you should have another passion on the side that is not dependent on you always being in perfect health. Because that way, like if you do have an injury where you got to take six months off that, you know, if you're into photography, if you're into music, whatever, Like now you have something else to like kind of sink your energy into. Did you guys ever like talk about stuff like that?
8:09Or was it really like a hundred percent? Like, this is it. We're going to make it doing this. Man. Taking back. I mean, no, I don't think we ever had conversations about other things, but like just being like being able to like make money and do things while not playing basketball is a thing we learned and got taught throughout the, you know, throughout life. Because, you know, social media, there's no time in life where you can make money as easy as like doing nothing, bro. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know. I kind of feel like my family had seen the future. Maybe like if you don't go to the NBA, there's going to be multiple facets for you to make money because that's what's going on now.
8:46You know, it's not that like, you know, I don't look at it like as like a failure at all. It's more of a yeah, of course, you can get hurt. And that's what you hear about all the time. That's why I say, oh, when you're in college, you're a freshman and you had a good year. why would you go back to college rather than take the NBA money? Because you can get hurt and you can play bad that year. The money won't be there the next year. So I definitely agree with what you're saying. And I think that's a good way to raise a child for sure, for sure. I'm not saying they did it wrong, but it's just they're really faith driven people.
9:16And, you know, and when you put your all into something, you go reap the benefits. And it's true. I've seen it. You know what I'm saying? Everything I put work into, I've seen benefits. I've seen results, you know. and yeah like I said that's a great way to raise a child because especially with something like you know I mean my my kid is obsessed with Taylor Swift and always says that she wants to be a singer and it's kind of like weird in your head when you hear that you think like every little girl not every little girl but like you know millions of little girls in this country grow up wanting to be a rock star or a pop singer or whatever it's realistically like actually even more competitive than basketball because at least like in the NBA, there's like a couple hundred dudes that are getting this money when it comes to pop stars.
10:02Like what are we, maybe like 10 women in America that are like real huge pop stars or something. I mean, I do feel like if you're raising a kid and you're kind of all in on a physical activity or basketball or whatever, that you almost, you have to be like kind of thinking about how you like shape your kid's mentality if this doesn't work, given that making it to the NBA is, it's like the odds of you winning the lottery combined with you having to be lucky enough to stay healthy, lucky enough to be good enough to genetically have what it takes, et cetera. There's like so many factors. So I feel like that's like an important thing to prepare a kid for.
10:45It definitely is for sure. You're 100 % right. And also one thing, I know my dad was trying to make us more than basketball players, make us entertainers. And it was more than just being a basketball player, you know, he always said my sister would be the biggest female on the planet in a positive way. Yeah. He said that since she was young and she's, you know, like you said, the rapper thing, ever since she was young, you know, writing songs and shit like that. I actually do do music too. Yeah, so you're still out. Yeah, I actually do do music. August what, 13th? 14th. August 14th, yeah. I'm signed with Molly Maul and stuff like that.
11:18Really? Yeah, he produced a lot of my songs, most of all my songs. Wow, that's cool. Yeah, I have like 20 songs that aren't out yet, but I am dropping a song August 14th. It's called Lil Baby. So stay tuned. Sick. Yeah. Okay. And I mean, the level of confidence that you guys had as kids was like, like I'm talking about that Good Morning America moment. Because I think like, like what'd you say? You were going to be the youngest NBA player ever and then you said you were going to be the first female in the NBA. Which is, I mean, that's a lot to bite off right now. It's kind of similar to a current conversation going on with the WNBA.
11:51Exactly.
11:56but i mean when you see something like that did y 'all like really believe that in your hearts or was that sort of like hey we're gonna fake it till we make it like i'm just gonna say you know i'm a podcaster i'm gonna say i'm gonna make a billion dollars being a podcaster maybe it doesn't happen but at least like yeah i'm not shooting myself in the foot on the way up when i was younger i truly believed it honestly i was like so i was like nine ten years old on just every like news Outlay or whatever And yeah I would believe it And my dad would always Like put it in my head Like yeah That's possible Yeah that is possible Definitely I remember You really believe that shit Yeah I really did believe it I mean when you're 10 You can believe a lot of shit Yeah you can believe it Yeah you can believe it Especially like My dad was really preaching that shit He's like she'd come off screens And she'd shoot better than Steph Curry Literally And you're not lying She could shoot the shit With the best of us Yeah well I did be Steph Curry In the three-point contest But I was young I was like 10 or 11 Even more impressive yeah it was like a footlocker nine oh was i it was a footlocker commercial yeah that's sick oh yeah no i always think about that that like at some point i'm gonna have to explain to my daughter that men are bigger and stronger on average than women and like yes but like how do you explain that in a way that isn't like yo girls kind of suck yeah no like how do you like say it in a way like yeah tonight and because she's so young that she doesn't understand like on average because she's way taller than all the other boys in her grade yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah so okay here's my question is when does it start to kind of set in that the nba dream is maybe not going to come to fruition uh it's not i never had that like realization if that makes sense i'll call me delusion or call me whatever i just think uh you know certain things that happened in my career in my life that were like not my fault when it comes to like I had an agent out of high school during COVID time you know I was promised big opportunities the same the same spots LaMelo went the NBL had a few deals out there and you know he was playing with it trying to get more money out the situation and you know that backfired or whatever and he he had bigger like NBA clients stuff so he was selling us a dream we go here we go there if not we go G League and basically we spent our time there um and you know he spent two three years of my life basketball wise messed that up i could go overseas and still you know get paid to play basketball like el salvador or you know china or whatever but i get paid more to be an influencer staying here in america um you know so from your perspective was the idea of going overseas to play was that like a a retreat in comparison to your original dreams was that something that you found kind of humiliating or was it like i'm getting paid good ass money to play basketball who gives a fuck if i have to go to china no good question a great question um honestly no yeah i felt the way for sure the fact of like oh you're going to nba right now in 1920 i've definitely felt the way and if i tell you different it's i'm not being honest um for sure i did did i want to go overseas because I love basketball, yes.
15:04Yeah. 100 % because I truly love it. But yeah, it's just a harder stepping stone for sure. So I chose all these years to stay in America. You know, I'm doing a little influencer boxing thing. You know, all the platforms bring in money. So yeah, yeah. I did look at overseas like, man, it's a little bit, it's not like the NBA at first for sure. But now I do it for content. It's weird because from the perspective, like, okay, if you're a kid who grows up thinking i'm gonna make it to the nba or i'm gonna be the best player and then okay like now this is a very difficult target to hit if you're a kid who's growing up just thinking like i love basketball i just want to play basketball then the idea of going overseas and getting paid good money to play is amazing that's like the best thing yes ever because you know yeah it's like okay yeah it'd be nice to be drake but if you don't end up drake and you get to be like you know g herbo or something i mean it's still sick to be g herbo right like yeah you know you're not you're not Drake where you're still G Herbo it's pretty good it's like but if you had set out to like I want to be the biggest artist in the world then I guess maybe it wouldn't be a sick no yeah 100 % I uh you know like I said my it's not done for me you know I still do believe I'm gonna get my shot playing basketball whether it be the G League or whatever it's all up to me like I said I'm hitting side quests doing this boxing thing but once I put my all into basketball you're gonna see me play somewhere I'm thinking about taking one of the opportunities to go get paid a little bit overseas just for like content, for like showing, you know, America, showing the world what it's like playing overseas basketball.
16:35Because all we know about is the NBA, right? Yeah. You don't really see behind the scenes of like what it's like for someone to play in Istanbul or something. Yeah. Yeah. No, that could be pretty interesting for sure. Definitely. Yeah. Definitely. So what about you? Like how did it kind of set in that maybe you weren't going to be the first female NBA player? Well, I mean, because this came to reality and stuff like that. But right now I'm actually playing basketball at Cal State LA. Oh, sick. Yeah, it's a D2. We made it to the NCAA tournament for the past couple years. And Metal World Peace is actually an assistant coach there and everything.
17:10Oh, sick. So, yeah. So, yeah, I'm still playing over there and everything right now. Yeah. That's dope. Did you – was there ever like a – or do you still like have WNBA dreams or is that something that you're kind of like maybe a little over or past? Good question. I mean, yeah, but I mean, honestly, kind of past it. I'd rather go, because they don't really get paid as much money. I'd rather go overseas. And you get paid more now. Yeah, and I get paid way more now without basketball, so honestly. Okay. Yeah. But yeah, obviously doing it because I love it and stuff, and still in college, stuff like that.
17:46For sure. But yeah. What's your guys' age gap? How close together in age? I'm 24. 22. Okay. About two years. Yeah, two years. What's the sibling dynamic like? You guys like best friends? or is there like space? She's sometimes not getting along. I feel like we're pretty close. No, yeah, we grew up together. Yeah, we grew up together. Yeah, I feel like. Definitely my best friend, but she be all bullshit now. Oh my God. That's my dog, but. Nah. She don't be wanting to hang with niggas, you know what I'm saying? You just stayed the night in my crib the other day. Yeah, oh God. I'm glad you got to hold the couch down.
18:14But I feel like we're pretty close though. Yeah, overall, yeah. But I mean, girls do that to like their other girlfriends that they get a boyfriend or whatever and then they're just out and like you just don't see them for six months. Without even saying it, you knew what was up. Yeah, and I guess you would probably, to your brother too, it's like, I got this guy I'm hanging out with. Yeah. Sorry. For sure. I'm not kicking it like I used to. No, you hit it on the money, bro. Oh, God. Because even like over the years, I've known a few different sets of like twins, like twin females. Yeah. They can't get a boyfriend for shit because it's either they like, like if they want to stay close with their sister, they're just not gonna like yeah be able to be in a relationship in the same way like that would tear them apart if they both got boyfriends so they just end up like a a team and then guys guys have a hard time penetrating it yeah not like that that's what we need to do though that you need to stream 24 7 no dean and ab it's like a variation like i'm a girl yeah we're the same fits and shit i know yeah the same fits yeah but she's gotta have like the girl version yeah obviously yeah it's gonna be like whatever the hell you wear that'd be funny i mean that is kind of funny because like the dynamic between a brother and sister is pretty pretty pretty out there you know yeah definitely there's a lot to be explored there that i mean i don't know like if the world would be as curious as i am but i feel like it's got to be weird you know no yeah Yeah, 100%.
19:47Definitely, man. Are you at the point where if one of your friends is interested in your sister, does that piss you off? Or are you kind of like, hey, if you're going to be good to her, if you're actually interested in her, it is what it is. Great question, dude. All my friends, no, I wouldn't appreciate it if they were trying to slide my sister. Not going to lie. Just because I don't think anyone who I'm friends with is worthy of that. and when you start thinking about your friends dating your sister or whatever that's when you start to realize you think all your friends are shit no yeah you just brought something else in my mind okay nah but i just no it's just because a lot a lot of people i call friends for real i mean this is from my perspective they look at they look at her like it's their sister as well you know because i've been people who i'm cool with still to this day have been you know around since she was little.
20:39So, I mean, if they have a want for her is like weird as fuck because she was seven, you know what I'm saying, when you met her. Yeah. Yeah, facts. Yeah, I've never had to cross that bridge. When you hear about somebody who's like marrying someone and you like realize that they knew this person when they were five or something, it's like, whoa. Yeah, it's like, whoa. How do you cross that? That's a little weird. That is very strange. So I definitely would. Yeah. I feel a way for sure, definitely. For sure. Was there like a moment when you realized like, oh, my sister's getting hot. this is going to be a problem.
21:10It's not going to just be once in a while. People are going to say my sister's hot all the time. I never had that thought, that exact thought you had? No, but the world had shown me that thought, if that makes sense. They sexualized her when she was 12, 13. Yeah, when I was super young. We have a reality show and the comments would be bugging about a young girl. Are we being public? And grown men would say shit. I just remember being in Vegas, being in a hotel hallway and they're hollering at a 13 year old and i'm about to fight with three four drunk men at like 15 because they talk about a 13 year old like to me yeah that's my sister but it was more of like this is a underage female you got to talk about super young and budges yeah that's terrible yeah i know no yeah so uh yeah there was a time where uh i definitely realized it flipped like oh shit like she's uh she was overdeveloped at a young age you know even like over time would had to tell her to put on a shirt during the interviews.
22:07Yeah. She's 12. Yeah. And like, that's just how she dressed because she a basketball player. Right. You know? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, it's got to be weird just being a girl in a world that is so masculine. Like, you're learning how the world works, but you're like kind of constantly seeing the world from the perspective of men. Is that accurate? Like, was it kind of a strange world to grow up in? Yeah, for sure. Strange world. and just being like so young because everyone used to always say because when i was younger i had like big boobs i still have big boobs now but i feel like they were younger no i'm just saying no i feel like they were young they were low-key bigger like i'm looking like a lot of my friends will say like yeah when you were younger your boobs were like super big i don't 12 yeah i don't know why like baby fat or whatever it is but yeah i just feel like it was really weird because i'm is so young and everyone just I mean by the time you're grown up like all the girls want big boobs but like I remember that there were girls when I was like 12 where they just got boobs like super early and it was not a good thing they were like being made fun of it was super weird and awkward yeah it's like that combo with being known to but being known to so it's like it's crazy it's crazy yeah her dms at a young age oh yeah we're crazy I mean I'm not gonna say names expose people had big rappers in it when she was when i was like 14 15 bro you could a lot of people's careers oh yeah oh a lot of people's careers like that like seriously wow yeah not gonna catch yeah no super bad i mean on one hand like probably some of them it's an innocent mistake but maybe yes probably not all of them not all of them i'd say uh 90 95 percent knew what was up for For sure.
23:47For sure. I feel like most of them knew. I mean, the biggest rappers and artists and basketball players and all types of people. That you can imagine. And then the metal ball thing. He's sitting on a nuke. I just want to say that he is Kim Jong-un right now. Because that is kind of scary to think about. Yeah. No, it is. Yeah, it's sad. It is sad. Think about it. Are there any hackers out there that want to get in his DMs? Or her DMs? Yeah. No, sorry. I don't even want to put that in the universe actually Oh yeah don't put that in the universe And they're going to do it if they want to do it Yeah literally But not to I don't want to mess it up Bring this up too early but the LaMelo Ball thing When they had Me come up to him So we had Overtime which were production We had a reality show And they had the I Don't Run It thing That's one of the biggest things going still to this day I wanted to address that because I don't really care about it at this point It's like helped to stay relevant.
24:46Literally. That comment. It's all people have to say when you see him in person. Little white boys are, you know, on TikTok. It's all people say, right? But the company, over time, they made her go up. Go up to LaMelo. And ask this question. And ask the question. And say, ask for his Instagram. Ask for a picture. Ask for a picture, whatever, for the plot of the show, whatever. Scripted reality. Scripted, yeah. His response was scripted. His response was hilarious. Yeah. But great response when you think about it. Because he was 18, 19 years old. And she's 14 years old. ask for the Instagram. So yeah, he's right as hell for saying he'll run it.
25:19He's a little girl. Yeah, so fun. First of all, yeah. Wow. That is funny. That's what I got to say. Yeah. No facts. Literally. So do you think that was an appropriate response or was he being a little bit too standoffish or not? That was appropriate response. Yeah. In the time, I don't think she took it that way. Yeah. In the time. But looking back, though, I'm like, oh, yeah, I was a little girl and he was what 18 19 yeah yeah and not to mention bro what the i just played dude i'm compared to him oh my sister's going to take a picture with my opponent what the is going on that don't make sense to me and they don't and it's up i know they told you to do it but that's up okay at the time if i was young you know that was a long time ago but yeah it was like slave owners i'm playing no for real do things do that for sure okay so y 'all uh recently obviously kind of the reason why we're all sitting down is because there was a leak yes now i'm gonna be totally honest i googled your name leak i couldn't find it so i don't actually know exactly what is out there i assume you guys maybe uh had a team maybe clean up some of the links yeah for sure Yeah, so speaking of that, her management and her legal team is like, she's like the first person to test this out.
26:35There's like articles and everything on it. They call it like the Jaden Newman Act. So there's like a thing that her company that she works for is like. Taking down. Or they're testing. They're testing, taking down everything that's like a part of the leak. Everything new to me. Everything that's not supposed to be there. Everything that's on the internet that's not supposed to be there, yeah. They like setting a new law to where like they can get 20 or$25 ,000 every count. Every like. The platform would have to pay that. Yeah. So like. Wow. I'll see the article after. There's an article called the Jaden Newman Act.
27:06And she's the first person that they're testing this on. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm going to tell you guys something that y 'all probably don't know, which is that in the adult OnlyFans world. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of the girls have somebody who's getting paid on their team to basically when their content gets leaked on all these random different websites and everything it's basically their job to like get it taken down over and over so like you know there is a precedent for that sort of thing in terms of like you know there's a lot of people who kind of end up in this situation it's like why should you be able to make a website and make money off of somebody's yeah non-consensually shared photos it's like yeah no yeah yeah there's got to be something you can do take away their ads or something like obviously google probably doesn't want to be advertising on that yeah 100 i agree it's like a internet's fairly new so it's like they're finally getting to the shit yeah you think about i remember like 2012 or whatever when there was that website is anyone up and there was no laws against revenge porn like revenge porn became a crime yes because of that website because this guy was just constantly linking like pictures of girls and then eventually they like made laws and now it's like a serious felony.
28:18Your girlfriend sent you a vagina picture and you put it on the internet? Boom. You committed a real crime. So, okay. Elephant in the room. That basically happened to you. You're dating this guy and what kind of guy would you say that this was? And is he out the picture now? Yeah, he's out the picture. Was he a basketball dude or? Man, what did he do for real? Where he at? He's not a basketball dude. Well, honestly, he's just like a, like a, I met him through a friend. Okay. It was like a hood dude, honestly. Okay. That I met through a friend. And then, but yeah, he's out the picture and he's in jail now, actually.
28:57For this? No. Okay. No, no, no. Well, I don't know who did this. Honestly, someone hacked through my Snapchat. And like, cause I had, like I have a whole, a whole nother email was in my Snapchat. That wasn't mine. So I don't know who's so like. Oh, that's what they do though. They'll like get in there and change their contact. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so basically, yeah, out the picture or whatever. I don't know if he did this. I don't think so. Because, but yeah, but he's in jail and stuff like that. Wow. What were you going to say? I think the nigga posted it. Him. Because what do you mean? But how?
29:27But how, though? But my thing is, how does somebody hack in your Snapchat and. Well, I've got hacked in my Snapchat before. Like two, three years ago. Like, I'm just trying to like, you know what I'm saying? Like, say, be honest and say it was him because. Well, I don't know if it was him. So, I can't really say. But yeah. What were you going to say? No, yeah, I think it was him, you know, and I want the world to know why it happened and how it happened, not them make it up for you. Because if you say you don't know how it happened and you think you got hacked. Well, no, I did get hacked because it was a whole different email on my Snapchat.
29:56So it was for sure. And I got like a verification code. But yeah, it was just like it was my boyfriend over for two years. Two years. So it's not like a random dude or whatever it was. And was it like you finally cut him off or was it like you just had a little fight or something? yeah I would say cut him off you cut him off and then the leaks come out he did that shit thank you I've been stopped talking for a minute but I've been stopped talking for a minute though and then after one of my friends showed me a video probably two months ago of this but it just didn't get out until now you know what I mean oh yeah it's bad I mean I saw him he kept saying in his video she ain't out there getting cracked she ain't getting cracked at least she ain't getting cracked and I'm like alright that's the bright side but he's right that was like it was just one dude in every single video it's not just random dudes or whatever you know what I mean so you're saying there is sex in these videos oh no it's a full on I didn't see it cause I'm not weird this is a full on sex tape I wasn't sure if it was just nudes Well they have a whole I've seen a whole bunch of things like pictures of me Like a whole bunch of stuff Pictures of me Yeah it's bad It's a full on It's a full on like So how did you Feel when that happened Because I kind of feel like I have a lot of memories from like high school and stuff Of like girls getting exposed and their nudes leaks and shit And it was like the end of the world 20 years ago and now it feels like it might not be as big a deal so like how much did this you up emotionally and mentally well at first i was like really like like like up in the head because i'm just like this is crazy like everyone's seeing me and these are just videos that i had like in my snapchat my eyes only only for like me to see or whatever because it was like i said was my boyfriend so it was like but yeah everyone just seeing that and we just seeing me naked having sex and stuff is just you cry i actually did cry yeah i mean that's fair but i actually did yeah i'm just wondering like how bad did it you up because i mean it's it's got to feel like this crazy violation of your privacy yeah of your privacy yeah those are like private yeah exactly private videos yeah so it's like yeah it was really i've i cried for sure and then after i just came to realization like it's like like my parents were saying like it's already out there there's nothing you can do about it so at this point you just gotta capitalize off of it.
32:42Yeah cause I'm not gonna lie when I first heard about this I thought OnlyFans were all out Right? That's what I was saying I mean that would be a masterful way to do OnlyFans were all out it was like oh this crazy leak happened. Not that I'm saying you're our line but it would be kind of a good story A lot of people thought like I was seeing a lot of stuff online that people were saying like oh like she's doing she leaked it herself because she wants to start an OnlyFans and stuff like that which is not the case at all. Yeah, she already makes millions on other platforms that don't show nudity.
33:16On other platforms that don't show nudity. That's not OnlyFans. But it's like pictures that basically I post on Instagram. She's on fanfics? Yeah, fanfics. Pictures basically I post on Instagram, whatever. You get to text privately. What is it, like bathing suit type photos? Bathing suit, some like like lingerie stuff. It's something like a little more than Instagram, but nothing nudity though. Yeah, because I mean, a lot of the girls who get the most hate for having an OnlyFans, like Ruby Rose or whatever, like good luck. Get in there. Spend a couple hundred bucks. She's not getting a nipple.
33:47I'm pretty sure there's no nipple in there. No, literally, yeah. And that's the thing. She, what's it called? She comes from another platform, basically the same type of thing. And she was the highest paid person on that platform. Oh, yeah, I was. So, you know, they came and grabbed her. And then I went to. Went to over here. Over there, yeah. They were offering more money. I think she didn't she didn't leak that for for an only fan yeah literally I did not literally I bit yeah okay I think fan fix was the uh that's the one that uh Piper Raquel was on oh and then she got an only fans now though I think yeah but in the documentary they basically presented fan fix as if it was like oh these 15 year olds are like this is basically like an only fan yeah which I'm sure it's a legitimate business but the thing kind of skeeve me out a little bit yeah It's nothing nudity.
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34:34You're basically getting my scam for real. If you're buying pictures of 15-year-olds in their underwear or whatever, even if it's not nude, what the f*** is going on? I'm pretty sure you got to be 18, maybe 21 on there now. I don't know. You have to be 18 on there. Like you said, you could do that. Yeah, that would be weird. Being an attractive woman in 2026, even before this leak, I'm sure it crossed your mind at one point like could i have an only fans it for sure has crossed my mind but i make i'm for me in my opinion i'm like why would i go to only fans when i already make probably the same amount of money at where i'm at right now right so it really wouldn't make any sense for me yeah and i'm still like in basketball in college and stuff like that yeah and i'm still in basketball in college so I mean as of right now no but in the future.
35:30It's not like that door would ever close. Yeah yeah. You know if you're 30 and you want to make one it's like people are still gonna be lining up. Yeah cause yeah as of right now no but in the future maybe a few years I don't know. I was trying to get her like it sounds crazy. It sounds crazy y 'all take it the wrong way. When she was 18 I tried to get her to make OnlyFans because of the spike. Not the not the not the nasty shit not the bullshit y 'all got going. Not the bullshit just like regular shit. I ain't gonna lie, bro. Just like Instagram photos, the same photos because it's the personal messages.
36:03It's the idea. And it's the name of it. People think like, oh, she made an OnlyFans. You know what I mean? There's gonna be whatever. Yeah, they're gonna like automatically people just think the worst when they hear the name OnlyFans. A lot of the people who have had the most viral OnlyFans are people who are literally not naked on there. I mentioned Ruby Rose, but there's a lot of other examples, you know? Yeah, no, I know. And a lot of people say like, oh, I've been seeing stuff like, Like, oh, I subscribed to Ruby Rose's OnlyFans. And it's damn near the same shit she posts on Instagram. Yeah.
36:34Sophie Rain. Oh, Sophie Rain. She's a sensation. Oh, yeah. She's like the. Yeah, she's like. Wow. I didn't know that. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that either, actually. I know girls making half a million a month. Never show a nipple. Yeah. Which is crazy. Because then I know other girls who are doing all kinds of the freakiest shit you ever heard of. They ain't making no half a million a month. Yeah. What do you think, though? going OnlyFans is only expanding and making more money, correct? It's kind of like a weird effect on the industry because it blew up during COVID and then now it's so flooded and a lot more people can figure out where to get content for free and stuff like that.
37:10So it is big, but also the money is spread out between so many content creators. I definitely know girls who are making like 400K a month in 2022 that are making like 50k a month now or something which you know just because and even bro think about the girls who have full-blown sex scenes on pornhub you show me a girl who's got a full-blown sex scene on pornhub i'll show you a girl who's selling less of her content on only fans because some of these dudes don't want to pay the five bucks they just watch the shit that's out there for free yeah it's a weird world i see yeah but just to give you guys the the meta of what's going on the thing that's really f***ing it up is all this AI on social media because now you go on Instagram and Instagram's like really good at not showing you people who are damn near naked.
38:01Yeah. Yeah. You know like the AI kind of gets what's going on so now there's a lot less like free promotion for these girls and stuff so that kind of f***s it up too. They're even taking links off people like they're not allowing people to put links. Oh really? Putting the link tree that links to your only Vins in your bio on Instagram yeah that's changed strategy changes by the week in regards to those links I can't even tag NoJumper in my bio I honestly have no idea why in my bio now it says host of the NoJumper podcast whereas it used to say host at NoJumper Instagram's kind of, they're like the worst platform helping you out, I ain't gonna lie you gotta be somebody on there already you could be tied up being kidnapped and they don't give a f*** I don't care they would not give a f*** so okay talk to me about like the reaction from the public when all the nudes came out and everything and you seem like you're pretty chilled now yeah you kind of get past it a little bit or yeah i would say now i'm for sure past it because yeah at first like the first few days it was like because it didn't really go like super viral even still not to this day if you look it up you can't find it on a twitter or anything or on x whatever but i when i type in my name i do see some online i don't know if it's because but yeah but the reaction to the public everyone was just when it first like started going viral going crazy freaking tagging my parents my family and i don't want them to see that obviously and stuff what was your parents reaction to it because on one hand it's like you're doing the most human thing possible yeah but then your parents obviously don't want the world to see their daughter that way yeah no but their reaction well i actually told them first because i was like because my um friend showed me a video and she was like oh she was like not gonna lie you're fucked and i was like what do you mean and then no she said that she was like not gonna lie you're fucked sometimes your friend is gonna keep it real yeah she was like not gonna lie you're fucked that's the nicest way to say that and she showed me the video and then she was like um actually one of her like ex-boyfriends sent her it and was like oh jayden has jayden's on eggs there's a sex tape out of her she got leaked and then sent it to her and then she showed me oh you're and then i called my parents right away and i was like i haven't even seen the video but i don't i don't even know they they're saying that um i got leaked and then my parents just like what video what video and i'm like i don't even know and then later well i seen it after that and they kept telling me to send it to them but i'm like why the would i send them that and then eventually yeah just trust me yeah i was just like why would i send it to them and then eventually they seen it then my mom told me like just that she's seen everything both of them seen everything and i was just like oh my god but yeah their reaction was just like why are you recording why are you doing this but it's like nowadays what first of all that was my that was my boyfriend yeah and it's just like i'm just recording it's funny because like what do you tell your daughter like hey you're supposed to have a special app on your phone that like is like a vault because those do exist where you can hide stuff in there but i do but i would never think to do that right yeah because yeah who's ever hacked your phone but then you're also thinking well i don't want to tell my kid how to better hide stuff on her phone so that nobody can ever get it also if the cops get your phone this little app you got doesn't matter they're gonna get in there yeah and i just if that was the issue yeah i just never thought that any of those videos would come out like literally ever would never think that that was like the last thought of my mind ever no because real talk like even in my phone right now there i've been married or with the same girl for 10 years but there are videos from 2012 of me with random girls that if someone hacked my phone this girl is a nurse now yeah yeah actually a lot of those videos are old too some of them from where we're like a year ago or two years ago.
42:00Yeah. So, yeah. Definitely. But, yeah. So, you said, wait, T-Banks was the one to show your friend? Yeah. That nigga T-Banks leaked both of y 'all, bro. Oh, my God. No cat. But that's my theory. I'm just finding out right now that T-Banks is a streamer. Yeah, he's the one. Because, yeah, he's the date my best friend. Okay. Should dry over here. You know that comment? Yeah, I know. I saw that. Should dry out. Yeah. Because, yeah, Cameron. Her name's Cameron. She's the one who said that. but they were like just trolling but yeah because he is the first one to find out about both their leaks because he he called kim and was like oh like we got leaked and then he was the first person to see mine and was like oh jayden got jayden got leaked and sent it to her and she's the one who showed me and was like oh yeah bitch you're and he was in streamer you when that happened too not that me i'm saying it's just i don't know this is the first time i've ever come to realization T-Banks might have leaked your shit How?
42:55I don't know He did not, okay, first of all, no That is just, he did not leak it Like, how does he make it First of all, all the videos on her phone Were all on her phone, all the videos were all on my phone Yeah, but y 'all with each other all the time Yeah, we are with each other all the time But And y 'all use each other's phones, facts But, okay, you think we're sending sex videos to each other? I don't know That's what me and him would do if we had each other's numbers Oh my god. Hell no. Go check out this clip. No, someone hacked. No, well, she knows how she got hacked. She thought it was like a brand model agency emailing her.
43:33And then she logged in with her iCloud. And you know, when you log in your iCloud, they have everything, basically. So yeah. And the same thing on my Snapchat. Because you know you can connect it to your camera. So all of like my shit was on my Snapchat. I'm not a girl, but who the fuck are you giving your iCloud password to? Like that's everything. Oh yeah Oh yeah Like why would you do that Doesn't make sense She literally have Everything of her Yeah It's like giving your Bank account All that shit could be in there Yeah yeah Everything could be in there But she Yeah a lot of her stuff Got taken down As well But no And they both have Legal teams against that Y 'all protecting these n****s man They ain't gonna lie N****s just leaking y 'all Y 'all protecting n****s N****s ain't automatic People aren't FBI agents They're not going to y 'all phone And leaking shit Well there's a lot of Well there's a lot of Hackers and shit out here And people that are out To get people There is But you n**** not lebron right okay but a hacker gonna hack you know that's what they do and you can't really expect them to do anything different but i will say that i think that like as a culture if this is not already established we need to make it clear that if you are with a woman for any period of time it doesn't matter if she cheats on you it doesn't matter if she breaks your fucking heart doesn't matter what she does and it's not just because it's illegal but if you put her fucking naked content out there on the internet you're a scumbag and you are violating serious federal laws but even beyond that it's just like i just think that's like the lowest of the low and i kind of i feel some of that about people who are like in group chats and leak messages and shit like that that's pretty bad but when we start talking about people's nude photos and videos like what are you talking about that's so corny to do that to your ex-girlfriend i'm sorry you gotta sit on it i know you want to show the whole world you can't do it yeah you know it's just you can't do it yeah exactly like i don't know what it'd be it'd be the fact you don't have no more it'd be i don't know because they just want to hurt her yeah yeah oh you hurt me so i want to hurt you and i can't think of anything that's going to hurt you so i'm gonna show the world your butthole your butthole i get it for a girl that means a lot more than exactly yeah i'll show you all my butthole is fine fuck facts not not your dad i kind of like motion towards your dad i meant like the cameras like the outside world yeah yeah um okay so all right moving forward though life's back to normal you're not like really switching your program up too much it's just yeah right now i'm just putting all that past me life's back to normal whatever would you say like the girls that you play basketball with are they like cool and understanding or they're like judgmental weird type vibes i really don't know i haven't heard from anyone from my basketball team but obviously summer right yeah it's the summer we do go back to school like a week or two but i mean i feel like they probably just i don't know they obviously know i'm another person and then last i think it was last year or two years ago i got leaked too it wasn't really like a leak it was just like pictures like you're saying yeah those were pictures so like and i remember a few of my teammates were just at that time they told me like oh like just asking me what happened or whatever but i don't think really well obviously bitches are gonna think stuff regardless tell them how your coach called you and a metal world peace called you oh yeah my coaches did call me and like they were just very understanding and just saying like oh like we got your back like we love you if you need anything just let us know and like cause obviously I had nothing to do with the leak it's out of my control it's like it might be unsettling for your family or your brother or whatever but it's like ultimately you're the victim yeah exactly I'm the victim at the end of the day yeah cause if it never got leaked it's the most normal human behavior and you can't really blame people for filming in 2026.
47:08People want to know what their shit look like. It was like, you know. Now you're speaking facts. The average person, I think, at some point is going to film some sexual content. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. And 99 % of them are never going to put it out to the world. But like most people at some point want to know. Yeah. Let me get a little reminder so that when I'm 55, I can look at this. Yeah. Yeah. No, literally, for sure. Yeah. Maybe not 55. Maybe like next week, but, you know. Next week. I appreciate you saying that, though. Yeah, no. That's a fact. literally yeah that's right it's not an odd thing to record the internet just rushes to like i assume calling you a whore and yeah and people act like they don't have sex too or whatever and that was with their partner that's you know that's the biggest thing it's yeah it's not like a random guy it's not a random guy yeah that's the you know you can't pay to jayden like yeah literally it's not that at all yeah that was her boyfriend yeah that was my boyfriend for two two years so yeah definitely um okay i wanted to ask uh julian how does it feel that for whatever reason there is seemingly like a never-ending limitless flow of people who want to make youtube videos basically chronicling your life story and framing you in a negative way is that the kind of thing like have you bothered to watch one over the years?
48:26Is it the kind of thing that is even able to register or are you kind of just numb to it at this point? Good question, man. I know what you're talking about. When you look at my name, there's like 30 videos. What happened? Right, because I taught Julian Newman documentary and I immediately realized like, oh, I got like 50 of these to choose from. Yeah. And it's all negative for sure. But I think, and this has been since I was young, that the algorithm is hate on me, you get views. Put me in a bad light, you get views. You know, when people talk good about me, they don't really get that many good views.
48:56So I don't blame these companies for or whatever it could be. It's usually a person making these YouTube channels now and acting like it's a documentary. They're pretty good at it. But a lot of it's false, man. And a lot of it's like how they see things. You know what I mean? I haven't watched a full one. No, to be real. I put one on and I hate it. I want to punch the TV, so I turn it off. But I'm going to start streaming and I'm going to react to a lot of those on stream. Oh yeah, you should, for sure. And get a real reaction. Yeah, bro. It's been going on for a long time. Once these companies started to realize, oh, we start the bass, Julian, we get hella views.
49:30Like over time, not going to lie, we created their platform, bro. We were with them when they were iPhone companies. Yeah, they were recording on the iPhone. I remember that. To record basketball highlights on an iPhone. That, years later, they do a reality show. Then they get$100 million from Drake, Jeff Bezos, and all these types of shit. And I said to say, you know, these companies just realized they bash me, they give views and, you know, and I'm not in the NBA scoring 30. So they feel like I failed. But that's not the measure of failure. Right. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, you know, the first time I had somebody make like a long ass video basically saying I was a loser or whatever, it kind of it felt like something.
50:11but as the time goes by i mean like you know probably like every even sort of famous person you think of has a youtube documentary that's basically like why this guy fell off and and a lot of times it'll be someone who is like without question extremely successful and and the narrative will be like well look like you know like some couple thousand people who are fans of them are like mad at them about something and it's like but the video is titled like how this person's career ended forever permanently and they might as well die you know it's like the more negative the better it's crazy yeah yeah he's saying anything and i think it's just like uh it's just a that's life right now negativity brings views yeah yeah that's all it is yeah if i made a documentary that was like why julian newman's life is actually pretty good yeah this doesn't sound like a hit does it sound like people don't want to click it no yeah and i know a lot of people who make those kind of content every day of like basically like people falling off type content and i see them sometimes try to do positive videos so like try to like mix it up because it probably gets kind of draining as a youtuber to just be hating on people like every second of the day but a lot of times those those are duds and then they stop 100 yeah no i'm sure you you you feel it man you got a lot of hate too bro yeah i'm gonna lie yeah great guy though yeah i appreciate it man um okay so i just want to like rewind to uh this viral moment where you ended up throwing hands with my boy Uno the Activist.
51:39What led up to that? Let's get a little bit of perspective on that. No smoke with Uno the Activist. Underground legend. Plat boy Max is the problem. He invited us to a run. It was just me. I put up with my girlfriend. Just to play basketball. He's like, come run. It'd be Team 5 Star versus Julian Newman's team. On stream, they had the little column. Team 5 Star, Julian Newman. We playing up and down somewhere in L.A. We win a couple games. Then some dudes walk in the gym, some extras it looked like. I didn't know it was Uno the activist at the time, but he was with somebody. Uno wasn't even a problem.
52:19It was who he was with. And I believe Platt Boy set this all up to rage bait me, though, if I'm being real. You know how streamers, they look for this clip farm. Clipping for sure. Basically all streaming is, is trying to figure out how do I turn this into an argument or I'll fight. Yeah, seriously. That's what streaming is. And I feel like I got set up is the biggest thing. So, you know, they pull up. I see them on the side. I can feel their energy already. They're already talking shit to me. I'm playing. I'm on my own business. You know, I'm known in the basketball world. So anytime someone sees me on the basketball floor, they want to talk shit.
52:53You know what I'm saying? So this is not people you know at all? This is just straight up like hating fan type shit? Oh, yeah. And it looked like to me, you know, with the dudes that Uno was with, it looked like it was, he's not, it's not a streamer environment anymore. Okay. You know, this is like a random, like anybody can come play now. You know what I'm saying? So I stay away from random runs and random things because people don't treat me like a regular basketball player. Like they want to make a clip out of me. You know what I'm saying? Damn, that's going to be a lot to live with. Yeah. It's never just let's play basketball.
53:23They're going to try to get me to fight. They're going to talk about my sister. Always do the most. It's not normal. You know what I'm saying? Wow. Especially in that streamer world, bro. You could probably go shoot hoops in Venice with no cameras around and it is what it is. But as soon as it's a streamer environment, the incentives are so different. Yeah, it's different, bro. They want to get famous. They think it's their time. They're calling right now. Yeah, and you're a cloud opportunity. For sure. 100%, since I was a kid, bro. Yes. So, yeah, we're playing. I'm killing it. I hit like three or four threes in a row.
53:53And then dude, Uno, the activist is with. I don't know how close they are or whatever. He showed up with them that day. He came, he's guarding me. I call a foul. If you run back the footage, he fouled me on the play. I go back to the top. He put his hand on my head or something and start calling me a bitch or something like that. And then I look at the Playboy Max. I'm like, bro, I'm not here for that. I ain't here for that. You run it back and you can see. I'm actually not trying to be on that. Low-key don't want to play because I know where this is going. I've been here a million times. And you are a basketball player on a basketball stream.
54:28And these are like rappers who, this is not their thing. They don't have a lot to lose in the situation. And it's not like they're there, like, just there. They're there running their mouths. You fucking suck, bitch. Like, da-da-da-da-da. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I'm just like, bro, I ain't here for that. And then it escalates when, you know, he called me a bitch. And then my girl says something. He called her a bitch, too. You know what I'm saying? And I'm all for, I do believe, you know, a female should definitely, you know, probably, like, let a man handle what's going on. But at the time, it was just me in that gym.
54:58I ain't had nobody else there. So she felt like it was Julian versus 100. So she spoke up for me because, you know, my man ain't nobody there. So I feel it. But, you know, I do get the side of the Internet saying a woman's supposed to be quiet, whatever, cool. But in that moment, I give her the benefit of the doubt. So he called her a bitch and it just escalates. You know how people make it worse, you know? When people holding somebody back, it's just ain't nothing going on. Y 'all making something. Inside of you, like your inner rage level, as soon as they call your girl a bitch, it's like, da-da-da-da-da.
55:30Yeah, yeah. It's like, bro, leave it here. Talk to me. You know what I'm saying? And, yeah, once that happened, I run up on Uno because he, you know, that's where he could see him trolling. And, you know, he started to raise bait looking back. And he wanted that reaction, you know. I'm not saying he walked in there like that. His boy was, though. And, yeah, bro, we had, you know, we score up or whatever. and I thought to myself like man I ain't trying to get sued, I ain't trying to go to jail you know and then what's it called they fake rush me or whatever cause I don't get touched dude the fat ass dude, Mano whatever the fuck his name is whatever that dude he been on the news a few times that guy Mano he a little corny ass he stuffed me in the corner respect, he stuffed me in the corner so they won't touch me but to be real I don't think they was going to touch me You know what I'm saying?
56:23It was acting, bro, for the stream. Yeah, for sure. You know, and I said to say, no smoke with Uno. I don't know him for real. But Playboy, Playboy is bitch, bro. I ain't going to lie. I don't fuck with him. So you never fucked with him after that? No, hell not. Because any time, bro, when I first met Playboy Max, he came up to me, oh, I'm a fan, fan, you're a pops, Bryce, to watch you growing up. We got to get a stream together. This, this, and that. and then anytime he on the internet he uses the chance to bash me anytime he uses the chance still like oh talking about I'm a third floor like top floor saying I'm not wired correctly like trying to call me a crash out or like bro I'm far from that like you know what I'm saying I mean you even having the thought of like I don't want to get sued I don't want to get arrested when the fight starts cracking off I mean like not a lot of guys that like 24 are going to have that little maturity Yeah, definitely.
57:18And I'm like, you know, I definitely don't walk in the rooms trying to fight nobody. That's not who I am, not at all. Anytime we ever see me on camera fighting, they were talking about my little sister who was underage at the time. And you were groomed to be a basketball superstar. And one thing, whenever you go to an NBA game, you realize it's like, oh, shit, this is a bunch of like tough ass dudes. A lot of them are from the streets. And they can come out here every day and keep their mouth shut when they hear the crowd screaming all this terrible shit at them. I'm like, it's kind of weird in that moment to realize like, oh, these dudes are so stoic and patient because they know they could basically torch their whole career if they just start beating the out of somebody, you know?
57:55Very true. A hundred percent. Yeah. That and plus like you give me 60 million a year. I mean, let them say what they want. I think that's when they start to get that like, oh, I feel like a zoo animal feeling because it's like, yeah, it's dope. You gave me this money, but now I got to listen to this fat sitting here calling me a loser. It's true. It's true. Yeah. it becomes more of a problem actually yeah yeah no yeah so that's what happened with interact fist it was uh one issue with him like i said i don't got no smoke with him at all yeah probably max you couldn't pay me to get on his shit i mean if that really was a setup like that that's pretty grimy just as a content creator because like i could kind of like do that all the time like imagine me like inviting somebody on the podcast and then bringing in somebody and basically just having them pick on them give them a hard time sounds like a viral clip but like you don't want to do that because you don't want the people to think that you're incapable of that like you know people i've never had like anybody get robbed here anything like that but still people will always be paranoid about like it could be a setup i could get set up whatever like people are so paranoid about that that if you actually do that and i know the fans are going to be like you put this guy with this guy and they ended up getting in this big argument or whatever but like yes it usually just happens it's not like really setting it up i mean i have set stuff up but it's It's more like when I know that it's not going to go crazy.
59:12I see what you're saying. You set it up in the right way. It's controlled. Yes. Yeah. 100%. No, yeah, yeah. I just wish he told me something or something. You know what I'm saying? I'm a good actor. I can do it. So you're not feeling the Black Boy Max Diva era? Oh, no. Oh, my God. He weird, bro. And I got nothing wrong with people who like the same sex. That's a Diva era. No problem with homosexuals. I'm cool with everybody. I respect it. What I don't with it when he hiding it, how he acting like he not. Bro, he put D.Va on him Bro, he gay Do you really think? I mean, he on some diddy shit He going both ways, for sure Yeah, the D.Va is crazy Bro, like, man, yeah, he got D.Va tatted on him This is what I don't like Oh, it's Prince He thinks he's on the level of a pop star Rock star to act like that First of all, Michael Jackson and Prince They actually felt that way You feel me?
1:00:02There was pop stars and they ran the world Yeah, especially Michael Jackson This nigga just look gay i mean that that that is kind of interesting okay but you see this like thing that happens is that like kaisenet he runs streaming for many years at some point he wants to do something bigger so he does the fashion line thing max has kind of been like the biggest like desktop streamer really to blow up over the past couple of years at a certain point it just feels pointless and meaningless to sit in front of the camera eight hours a day and he's like okay man i'm gonna be kind of like a zesty pop star type thing you know I mean not like he's actually I mean you think he's actually zesty I don't know that to be true but he's clearly like playing with the imagery to suggest that he's on some different shit no yeah he definitely is and it's just I don't like I get it being different and get you knowing you know what I'm saying but nah he trying to he's not Prince bro he keep playing I'm on Prince shit bro you never be Prince but there was probably a lot of people telling Prince he was never gonna be what he ended up being right probably right you know probably right yeah 100 and i don't hit on nobody he got hella success you know i'm saying and all power to him but you black boy man so okay uh at what point does the boxing thing really become a reality and i was watching one of the videos and it said basically that like boxing's kind of like the perfect thing for you to get into because you spent your whole entire life building up your hand-eye coordination and being able to do this super fast reflex things I mean, I feel like boxing is probably like more extreme than basketball in terms of like having to be incredibly fast reacting to shit that's happening three feet away from you.
1:01:39Oh, yeah. You're 100 % right. How it came about, man, it was this dude, Streamer Oblivion. He called me out. Shadow Oblivion. I always see him out. Yeah, yeah. He called me out on a platform when he beat an Island Boy, one of them crack kids. He beat one of them up. Crack kids. He called me out. I want to fight Julian Newman. And, you know, we eventually got it done. He ducked and shit at first. We eventually got it done. I beat him. Got a belt at Brand Ritz. Actually, the only Brand Ritz belt holder right now, because that was their golden boy at the time. They was pushing him. They wanted him to beat everybody.
1:02:13And they was pushing him to the top, trying to make him the Oscar De La Hoya of Brand Ritz promotions. Wow. So I took that down pretty early. And, yeah, man, ever since, I've just been staying in the boxing gym and, you know, staying ready for this influence of boxing. It's fun. Definitely. But do you find that you, like, gravitated towards boxing pretty quick because it's kind of a similar skill set? Yes, that's what you – yes, definitely. I agree. It's definitely like, you know, fast-twist muscles. Like you said, you've been – and just the fact that I'm an athlete, I've been working all my life, it gives me a head start to a lot of people.
1:02:46Because a lot of people, even boxers, bro, they do nothing else. So you can see, like, they're not the athletic. They're moving like a robot and, you know, I don't know. It definitely helped, though. and I grew up watching boxing. You know, my dad and mom used to have the little Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather party fights at the crib. So I've always loved, like, boxing. I grew up watching Floyd Mayweather, being real, like, playing basketball. I ain't going to lie. I was watching Floyd Mayweather at the crib for motivation, like how he would hit the bag all day at night, how he would, you know, even with the females, like, I was motivated by a boxer.
1:03:19So it's funny nowadays that I'm boxing because my first love was low-key boxing. like visually watching it I loved it really that's dope man do you feel like you through training do you feel like you more and more are like you know what I could be great at this like does it feel like that's like something that you would like to take the whole way and like really devote your whole life to it yeah man definitely great question because you know my parents we talk about it all the time they think it's something I can actually do on the pro level me I got a lot of respect for boxing though you know people have been doing this shit today was three you know it's experience in this shit and it's a i don't know it's kind of like uh yeah i did progress faster than a regular person 100 but uh i do want to go pro and take it a serious route yeah but when i have more experience giving more time because like i said i i'm in the gym all the time so i see these these people i see them three-year-old kids five-year-old kids you know so these guys that are pros they've been doing it forever it's like me at basketball like you can't skip steps, you know?
1:04:23Would you be the same weight class as Dean the Great? About, yeah, he weighs a little more, but we can meet at a weight, for sure. You think you got that? Yeah, give me a couple more fights I got that. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Wow, that could be a good one. Yeah, yeah, all respect to them, man. Shout out to Dean. Shout out to Dean. They doing their thing, but nah, I'll fuck you up in a year, for sure. Damn, that'd be a good one. He has a fight coming up, too, right? Yes, yes. And you, too. I do, the 22nd. The brain risk that's coming up, you're on that. Wow, sick. And who are you fighting some streamer named 50 or some shit he's somebody they're trying to make big some dude okay he's not really anybody i'm not gonna lie you researching we got like 9k followers or whatever okay let me check oh oblivion backed out though i was supposed to be the main event of this one 30 was the guy's name not 50 yeah yeah his name is okay yeah so we supposed to be the main event on this card but oblivion um backed out because he wanted more pay for it you know whatever it is but yeah man Brandon Rose is crazy because it's like Chibu just won his fight against Blueface he is second to last on this flyer it's like you know which I get because he's not the biggest name and he's fighting a guy BMA Musa who I'm not familiar with so you can't put him at the top of the flyer when you got these like big celebrities on it but it's kind of funny to win against a huge celebrity and then hey sorry you're at the bottom of the flyer they won't keep doing it they put no neck j above his ass okay at that moment i'm like okay this is not in order of like importance of fights because super hot fire also coming off a w from ray j he's not like headlining no yeah yeah you could you could have put him co you could have put him no yeah this is actually a good card though i don't think i can make it to florida but i'm definitely gonna like react to it on stream and shit yeah yeah if you ain't back out we've been Main event, man.
1:06:19I don't want to lie. And I think I've seen him at every brand risk I've been to. So you're going to see him there streaming. So you will have the opportunity to get your clip by streaming at him. Smack a front for a clip, man. Something like that. Now, Ryan Garcia was even, what's it called? Hyping the fight up. Trying to get it going. I don't know if you've seen the clips of him saying, I believe he backed out. You man. You want to fight. Damn. Yeah, you shit up. But it's all good. We're going to make it happen soon. For sure. How do you feel about the hate that you got for saying that your sister was going to be bigger than Kim Kardashian?
1:06:52Those are a little wild, especially for someone who does not plan to pursue OnlyFans or anything. So, what's it called? Overtime back in the day. This is back when we were very young. Before they started the reality show and everything, the owner of Overtime. Can I say his name? Dan Porter. The owner of Overtime had said Jada Newman will be bigger than Kim Kardashian. And she's, what, 13? 13. She has more talent to play basketball. Kind of a strange thing to say about a 13-year-old girl given that Kim Kardashian kind of became famous for a sex tape, but I'm just going to throw that out there. Yes, you're 100 % correct, but I believe he meant it in a way of how she took over the internet by storm.
1:07:36You got to give it to her. And when you think about Kim K now, you don't really think about it. Yeah, you don't think about that. I was with Ray J last night, and yes, I was talking about her, but you know. But you think about all the other good things she did. Yeah, she was a monster. yeah it's like when you when you think about kim you don't think about ray j when you think about ray j you think about kim because that's just a draw though you know at the time and why i said it was because obviously i know it's a clip gonna clip the shit out of me saying she's gonna be bigger than kim kardashian yeah um but on another note i truly believe it because she's somebody who is known like kim kardashian a lot of people try to correct me say she was known before that whatever her dad was a lawyer who got oj off but i don't think they're thinking about kim kardashian right she was an elite basically like in the sort of like calabasas beverly hills like elite sort of valley california world yeah but it's different than being like world famous the most viral sex tape of all time yeah yeah so it's like you couldn't imagine that right but like with her now it wasn't done on purpose or whatever but like just with her being known having a name you know that's why i said that because i truly feel like it's a whether we look at it negative or not it's definitely helping her life because it's already out there so why not capitalize and make it a positive thing.
1:08:44What I mean by that is take the world over. Take a lot of storm. Come with your makeup line. We've been working on for years. You know what I'm saying? And that's all Kim Kardashian has done. She took the sex tape and there's no girl bigger than her. You can argue Rihanna and shit, but they're neck and neck. You know what I'm saying? That's what I meant by it. I do believe she'll be bigger than Kim Kardashian, though. And I say that in a way, financially. Financially way. You know what I'm saying? Not because of all the... And not to mention, I also made that comment because she bought a Mercedes, a Range Rover, multiple Mercedes, all other types of whips.
1:09:18You did? Yeah, yeah. I have a few cars. I didn't know it was like that. All before she was 21 years old. So like I said to say like man she's been popping in a financial way. You know what I'm saying? And she's been doing it herself. What platforms do you make the most money on? YouTube? Fanfics. Oh, okay. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. So that's also the reason why I made that comment. Because Kim Kardashian wasn't able to buy herself four luxury cars before 21. Yeah, before all that stuff. So I said to say, you know, it's a reality. And I mean makeup lines taking over the world and, you know, girls wanting to be Jaden.
1:09:56That's what I mean. Yeah, there's like such an anti-OnlyFans thing in the air, in the culture, that it's like even a girl who gets her shit leaked against her will is gonna get that like negative reaction especially with us they love to hate us love to for sure what do you guys got coming up anything we need to know about that you guys are gonna be doing yeah so what's it called she makes music as we said before you know she's she's even been in the studio with Wack before oh yeah Wack 100 yeah most of my songs I was gonna say Wax's name when you said Molly Maul Because I know they're friends I've been in the studio with them before All my songs Molly Maul produced it and everything But yeah I have a new single drop in August 14th Lil Baby right Yeah August 14th Oh and then yeah I have another one with Compton A.B That's dope Shout out Compton A.B So yeah for sure just focus on music Especially because of the summer time And everything and before I get back in school And basketball So yeah nice definitely yeah me man I'm gonna do this boxing thing Brand Risk August 22nd I'm gonna stream after I'm gonna get on the streaming shit after it'd be hard to get on the streaming I work out no caps sound ridiculous three four times a day really so I drive to Melrose and I drive all the way back to the IE so I have no time to stream right now but after this fight I'm on it I'm gonna stream three four times a day what's that look like so I wake up I go work out on Melrose then I go hit LA Fitness and get like a was that like a boxing gym sorry yeah yeah fortune boxing gym yeah okay on Melrose shout out Tam shout out Justin I work out over there uh for about an hour half two hours and I come back to the IE uh get like a lift in get some conditioning in uh jump rope and then at night I'll go to a gym in Riverside shout out uh coach Rogi coach Jesse and modern box nice little drive yeah oh yeah you got a lot of energy now maybe he be driving every day yeah I ain't gonna lie literally and then uh at night I'll get like a three four mile run in my dad will follow me so So it's like three, four workouts, no cap.
1:12:00I actually didn't really know that anybody worked out that hard. So that's like an absurd schedule. He's dedicated. That's crazy. And that comes from basketball. It comes from my dad being Joe Jackson, no cap. Like, you know, we waking up hooping. Then we're going to go lift. Then we're going to go run. Then we're going to go, you know, it created discipline. So people got bad to say about Pops. He created a disciplined individual who, like, I don't feel right without getting things done. Yeah, no, literally. No, for sure. It's like a fine line between like overworking your kid or giving them a fucking complex.
1:12:31Yeah. But at the same time, you know, you want to teach your kid to work hard and to like, you know, cause I see that all the time. Like my kid is like just now getting used to riding the bike with no training wheels. And it's like, damn, like if I want her to be good at riding a bike in the next six months, I'm gonna have to like actually kind of make her cause her brain does not want to go and ride every day. You know, I gotta get her, I got to force her to do it so that she can appreciate it at some point in the future. I didn't even think about it like that. I never thought about him having to make me take basketball serious.
1:13:04I never thought about that transition. At what point did he make me want to treat basketball like a job? If he had said, hey, play basketball as much as you want. What are you going to do? You're going to play a 20-minute day practice or whatever. Somebody's got to show you the path. That's true. That's one way to think about it. facts yeah yeah for all the joe jacks is out there you can use that right there you gotta show in the past i was watching uh patrick cc's new video about dustin poirier the usc fighter today too and like it was really interesting seeing him talk about how in these fighting camps and stuff that he's been in how crucial it was that like he's not like he knows how people train but to see them take a day off on purpose because they know they need to heal to like just all the little things of like what this lifestyle actually is just being immersed in it it's like it was like I'm seeing that and realizing like unless you're like really living immersed in this every moment of the day there's gonna be parts of it that you don't understand because he was saying that he was like massively over training and just fucking his body up and then he wouldn't be able to be 100 % in the ring you know that's true and that's one thing all my trainers are talking about right now telling me to go home and not do anything yeah recovery is the big thing some people are like different you know some people know their bodies obviously you gotta rest 100 % but I my body's truly the best when I'm like doing too much I mean you're 24 it's like you just have an amount of uh energy that I mean your dad could tell you too you're gonna miss having this much energy at some point in the future so you might as well go for it yes sir yeah most definitely yeah I appreciate you having this brother no yeah I'm uh I'm glad that you guys are persevering through the storm doesn't feel like it you up in the head too much yeah it's kind of like more of a normal thing for a girl to go through these days I guess so you can't feel that bad.
1:14:50And that's one thing I want to say too. Oh man all your sisters give f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing f***ing it's just not on camera. It's just not getting exposed. Or even if you are exposed you aren't a known figure to where the world is talking about it. Exactly. So yeah. Definitely. For sure. Shout out to the girl that I was in high school with who somebody leaked videos of her doing something with a very large coke bottle and then somebody printed it out and taped it to the soda machine in class. Probably like the most memorable day of my entire high school career. Oh shit, that is crazy.
1:15:23She's crazy though. What was she doing? 2001. This is so long ago. That was very advanced. Nobody even had digital cameras. What the fuck was she on? She was the biggest hoe in school too. Oh, that makes sense. She was on that. Who was that dude? Honestly, I don't think because there wasn't cameras in the school at the time so nobody ever got to find out like who did it or anything. Oh, wow. Yeah. He was the head of the game. He was. He knew what he was doing. Oh, yeah. Pioneer of revenge porn. Oh, God. I appreciate you guys pulling up. Yeah, of course. Let them know if they want to tap in with you, what they should check out in terms of social media and everything like that.
1:16:02So, your fanfics. Y 'all go tap into my fanfics, Jaden Newman, and follow me on Instagram, Jaden Newman1. And I'm going to be streaming too, y 'all, so stay tuned. Jaden Newman on all platforms. Yeah, Jaden Newman on all platforms. And you know me, Julian Newman on all platforms. Follow me on YouTube, official Julian Newman. And yeah. Period. Let's get it. Thank you, Adam. I really appreciate you, bro. Yeah, appreciate you. You know, give us the opportunity to give our side, bro. I mean, for sure. For maybe like one of the only brother-sister duos I've ever interviewed, but certainly basketball-oriented.
1:16:28Yeah, uh-huh. Period. I just want to say, bro, I watch you every day, bro. Hell yeah. Big fan of No Jumper. Who's the best host besides me? Best host. Obviously you. When you come on, do you spike? Who? Who's the best? The best host. I like Ricky, for sure. Oh, I'm a Ricky fan. I'm excited. You compare him to House Phone and it says Hey! I like Lush too. I pray Lush gets better. He's doing good. I ain't gonna lie. He's gonna throw right now but he's gonna come out better on the other side. Hell yeah he will. We gotta get him playing basketball. Appreciate you guys pulling up. Yeah appreciate you.
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