In short
Jumbotron (Sage) discusses appearing on No Jumper’s Drewski/Coulda Been Love Season 2, her rise in adult content, body/health realities, relationship dynamics, and explicit preferences, alongside broader takes on reality TV and attention/privilege.
Guest backgrounds
Sage, also called Jumbotron, is 23 and from Baltimore, Maryland; moved to California at 5, returned to Baltimore for school, then moved to Texas two years ago. She started OnlyFans at 18 after building a large social following during COVID. She says she’s bi and has done mainly girl-girl content, plus a few on-camera threesomes (including with Stella Andrews).
Key claims
She “spawned” onto Coulda Been Love Season 2 late (episodes 4–5) and says Selena’s storyline spiked interest. She claims her huge butt is partly natural and linked to lipedema; she says she had lipoedema diagnosed and had only one enhancement procedure. She describes a past relationship with an anonymous gay man she says was stalking/controlling.
Notable examples
Selena “ate my ass” on camera (her history with her); Drewski show scenes felt fake/forced; pregnancy made her partner more smell-sensitive, reducing ass-eating. She plans to return to college for digital marketing.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOJumbotron's Journey on 'Coulda Been Love'
1:30 to 4:28
Discussion about Jumbotron's experience on the reality show and her thoughts on fellow contestants.
Background and Upbringing
4:28 to 5:36
Insights into Jumbotron's upbringing and her move across states.
“What was your upbringing like out there?”
Starting OnlyFans at 18
5:36 to 7:17
Jumbotron shares her experience starting OnlyFans and her content journey.
“When I turned 18, I started OnlyFans when I was 18.”
Relationship Dynamics and Challenges
7:17 to 9:15
Jumbotron discusses her past relationship and the challenges she faced.
“They're a bunch of Canadian well started with a Canadian dude named Kyle.”
Breaking Free and Embracing Independence
9:15 to 12:25
Jumbotron describes how she found her independence after ending a toxic relationship.
“Like he has like a fascination with like girls that are like have a lot of work done.”
Body Image and Enhancements
12:25 to 14:03
Discussion on body image, cosmetic enhancements, and societal standards.
“Like, I think that that's, like, a sign of, like, really, like, mental illness.”
Body Image and Surgery Discussions
14:03 to 18:00
Explore perceptions of body image, surgery choices, and societal influences.
Attraction and Relationships
18:01 to 22:20
Discuss the dynamics of attraction, beauty standards, and relationship choices.
Friendships and Industry Connections
22:21 to 26:44
Insight into friendships formed in the entertainment industry and their origins.
“Now I like smoke weed and that's about it.”
Education and Future Plans
26:45 to 28:00
Discuss intentions to return to education and the value of structured learning.
“I was just I I'm good friends with Eric who's Eric?”
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Returning to Education: A Personal Journey
28:00 to 28:30
Exploration of college experiences and the desire to pursue further education later in life.
The Value of Knowledge vs. Legal Careers
28:30 to 29:30
Discussion on the importance of knowledge and the intensity of pursuing a law career.
Kim Kardashian's Law Aspirations
29:30 to 31:00
Debate over Kim Kardashian's attempts to become a lawyer and public perception.
Personal Insights on College and Career
31:00 to 32:20
Shared experiences of dropping out of college and career aspirations in digital marketing.
“I'm already in that, so why not just know more about it and learn as much as I can to just maximize the opportunity.”
Reality TV Dynamics: Behind the Scenes
32:20 to 34:10
Insights into the filming dynamics of reality TV and the interactions with cast members.
“I mean, it's probably like you do that or you just go full sex worker, right?”
Attraction and Chemistry in Reality TV
34:10 to 35:30
Discussion on attraction and chemistry between cast members on reality shows.
“I feel like he just don't got it on him.”
The Nature of Reality TV Conflicts
35:30 to 37:40
Exploration of conflicts and authenticity in reality TV shows and feelings from cast members.
Navigating the Adult Industry
37:40 to 40:00
Discussion on experiences with adult content creation and personal choices.
“like we're that's just like it feels like jail yeah definitely you have any good squabbles in there or no I didn't know.”
Perspectives on Adult Content and Relationships
40:00 to 42:00
Insights into filming adult scenes and the dynamics of personal relationships in the industry.
“I mean, the weird part about it is that like you could film some shit with your girlfriend where you're like, you know, fingering yourself or like putting dildos in you or whatever.”
Exploring the World of Sugar Daddies
42:00 to 44:20
Discussion on the dynamics and feelings surrounding sugar daddy relationships.
The Cost of Relationships in Modern Dating
44:20 to 47:10
Examining the financial expectations and societal shifts in dating.
“So you couldn't have, okay, if you had some dude that you met and he's giving you 50 grand a month, which I don't know how much money you make, so I don't know how much that matters, but presumably that's pretty good.”
The Nature of Monogamy and Relationships
47:10 to 50:40
A discussion about monogamy, societal expectations, and individual desires.
“Okay, so you just like a golf of like face card.”
The Challenges of Having Kids Later in Life
50:40 to 54:00
Insights on the implications and considerations of having children at an older age.
“You're a stay-at-home mom, but you're still a baddie, whatever.”
Women's Power and Lifestyle Choices
54:00 to 56:00
Discussion on how women's attractiveness influences their life choices and societal roles.
“Because you kind of have already lived your life.”
The Dynamics of Relationships and Power
56:00 to 1:03:19
Explore the complexities of dating, gender roles, and societal expectations.
“Hot chicks just get carried through life.”
Public Perception of Adult Industry Figures
1:03:20 to 1:10:03
Discuss the stigma and societal views surrounding dating those in the adult industry.
Copyright Issues with Nuck Boys' Show
1:10:03 to 1:11:08
Learn about the challenges faced by the Nuck Boys with their Love Island parody show.
“There's so much footage that has been lost.”
Dating Dilemmas and Creative DMing
1:11:08 to 1:12:54
Discuss creative approaches in dating and the impact of unique DM strategies.
The Intersection of Porn and Education
1:12:54 to 1:14:25
Explore the conversation around balancing a career in porn with traditional education.
“I'm just trying to get them to shoot porn with us.”
Transcript
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0:39That's why you rack. Well, I couldn't find my usual water, but I'll figure it out. I'll probably let it in the car. Wait, I love your shirt. Do you? Yeah. Are we live? Nice. Hey, Winston. Winston, we're live. Winston. We're live? This is Winston, your dog? Winston's the little brown one, yeah, and then the big one's Ralph. Cute. Jumbotron, you can't, like, block yourself. if you're like a baddie so you're supposed to yeah we gotta give them like a clear yes a clear view a clear goon line clear goon line yeah line of gooning yeah for real okay anyway i gotta explain to the people out there by the way no jumper coolest podcast in the world this is uh am i allowed to call you jumbotron or do we have to revert jumbotron okay whatever because before that your real name is sage yeah okay sage and you i guess like kind of exploded in popularity a little bit through the Drewski show yeah I was on could have been love yes season two how far did you make it I made it till about I think episode four or five I showed up late I was right I was I wasn't there why were you late I was late because I I had a whole situation going on I missed like a whole trip I was supposed to be on and so I ended up just showing up like last minute like they they called me and they were like can you pull up to miami today and i was like yeah okay what what is the like what what efforts did you have to go through to even i didn't audition or anything so i just i just kind of spawned okay i just spawned on the show i honestly think i watched up to like episode five like maybe the episode watching after i left i think yeah coincidentally yeah it wasn't like my jumbotron i've been told though people are like they only really watched it because i was on it i'm not gonna say that because if anything i really wanted to see how the selena saga played out yeah what do you how do you feel about that uh just like really close to it because her and i have such a history okay yeah she ate my ass one time on camera she ate your ass insane right yeah yeah but unthinkable for a classy lady like you huh no i could think of that i could i could get into that really i could on camera not on camera i've never eaten ass personally but i could i can hey everyone has their own their own thing are you morally opposed i'm not morally opposed i feel like free will everyone can do what they want you know i feel like male ass eating like didn't even exist until i was there a term for that like a official term for that uh not that i know i guess we could ask the ai how was it though did you enjoy that was that your first time getting your ass ate i mean really i just did it because my girl made me okay because she encouraged it she co-signed it well okay so i don't even know if you know this but me and my girl have a podcast called plug talk.com where we do.
3:22I'm familiar. We interview girls and then we have sex with them. And my girl ruled that she didn't want to sleep with Selena, but she said like, you know, you should do it because Selena is like, you know, every time she's on the platform, it spikes a lot. So for sure. She definitely, I didn't know she was going to be there. Yeah. I was like pleasantly surprised. It is. It's like, I feel like no jumpers kind of like the training ground for some of the Drewski content. Cause a lot of the people who get a certain level of popularity on here, he like elevates them to his 10 million views an episode platform totally totally did you know anyone else that was on the show uh well like in the past you know crit mac definitely got on his shit and then there's been a bunch of other examples we had this gay crip gay crip tony okay uh not familiar he's from texas he's he's he's gay as he sucks penises and shit from what And yeah, he got on there.
4:17There's a few other girls and stuff too. But I do the same thing. It's like I find out about talent on there and then try to bring them in. Exactly. Well, yeah, I'm glad we can make it happen. Yeah, definitely. So where are you from? I'm from Baltimore, Maryland. Ah, okay. What was your upbringing like out there? My upbringing? I moved away pretty young. I moved to California when I was like five. Five, okay. Yeah. And then I was raised in California. And then I moved back to Baltimore for school. Okay. Like middle and high school. And then I moved to Texas like two years ago. Oh, wow. So you're kind of a mix of everything, huh?
4:55A little bit of everything, yeah. How old are you? I just turned 23. 23. Yeah. Okay. I'm a Taurus. And what kind of person would you say you were throughout all these years? Were you like just a normal girl? I was a normal girl. I was always kind of like more promiscuous naturally. Now we're talking. Yeah. Right, right up your alley. Okay, yeah. As an adult. As an adult. I just kind of remember what we're talking about when you were younger. As a young adult. Right, okay. Like kind of like when I turned like 16, I started getting a little crazy. Okay. And then just kind of full send it. When I turned 18, I started OnlyFans when I was 18.
5:38Really? Yeah. You were one of those girls who got like as soon as you turned 18? yeah i was there was a countdown there was a countdown oh my god there definitely was because i just i kind of already was in that world so it just felt like the next the next step for me what do you mean in that world it's illegal for you to be in that world definitely was it wasn't legal it really wasn't so okay you were one of those girls that was like posting pictures and getting followers i was and the followers during covid but the followers don't know that you're underage i've seen this people were asking me when i or if i had one or when i was gonna make one from a young age so i was like okay i'm gonna just like do what i feel like seems right to me like naturally because like naturally i like to take pictures i like to like you know like be sexy on camera and it just like kind of worked out that way that's just so crazy to think that the world like collectively grooms girls it definitely is a pressure on young girls to like become something of the sort like sexually like just kind of like i don't know how many followers did you have before you turned 18 i had about 100k see this is crazy it was a crazy world that we live but it was mainly women actually surprisingly it was like it was a lot of women what kind of content were you making what are you talking about i was just like posting like regular like i don't know i was just like kind of doing like lip syncing like chill stuff on tiktok and then I had like a significantly large women following I think they were just they just they were into me but you never said hey I'm underage I think I did have it in my bio oh okay yeah interesting but then when you turn 18 you start doing OnlyFans or are you like automatically doing everything or no no I took it really slow at first I really just like had stuff I would post on Instagram on there and then you know I would show a little bit here and there but i wasn't full sending it for for a while you like a big nook boys fan or is full send just part of your lexicon you don't know that that's their thing no i didn't know that oh really yeah no i just kind of yeah they have a brand called full send that's just like kind of the that's just what the kids are saying these days oh i'm a kid well i mean that but that's just crazy because that means that like the full send slang i think it's just like full yeah just like but that means that might have like outlasted the Nuck Boy because I don't really hear people.
7:58I don't even know who that is. For real? The Nuck Boys? They're a bunch of Canadian well started with a Canadian dude named Kyle. Well I love Canada so. Right but I mean they're like huge. They have like 6 million subscribers or some shit like that. Oh. Where they just moved something that was really loud. That was crazy. Yeah I mean they're just like YouTube dudes. But yeah so I'm not familiar with that but yeah I just like I turned 18, took it slow started kind of doing like girl girl stuff because I was just like naturally like into girls like I'm bi so I just like kind of had like uh attraction to more I feel like it was just easier to kind of like work with girls and collaborate and stuff like that and I was in a relationship so I didn't really want to do anything too explicit for a while okay until the opportunity presented itself and I just like who uh wait who's who's the guy you're in a relationship with oh my god a loser a loser loser he's losers man he is like he's a fucking loser your friend's jaws drop like she's really happy that you're calling this guy a loser he i actually just found out recently like he is gay really yeah i found out he was gay from his current girlfriend i think she's still with him gay how like he meets up with guys oh like he has like an anonymous like twitter profile where he just basically links up with guys white guy He's Mexican.
9:22Okay. So a zesty Mexican. Zesty Mexican. Yeah. I think he wants to be a bitch. Like he has like a fascination with like girls that are like have a lot of work done. Like he's super like freaked out. Okay. But as a girl who has a lot of work done, you can't hate on a guy for liking girls have a lot of work done. When you have a porn addiction, I feel like you just kind of like naturally, it's like a funnel into just like, just butt stuff and just like being like. If the door is already open for you to be gay. The door was, yeah. I'm into butt stuff. It doesn't make me. there's no like trajectory from like hot chick with a small waist and a big ass to like oh now i want to fuck a man hey because they also have an asshole that's just i don't this is a shocking twist of fate that i i can't imagine maybe you don't relate to it but i feel like he was just like he wasn't loved as a child probably like so he just was like looking for anything you get what if he's just a natural gay lord he really something's going on but we don't know him he's famous or anything he's like anonymous like but he has like a page like a like a instagram page where like he basically is like this like brand where he like has a front of like he posted like reposted much stuff like a bunch of like pop culture stuff like he's like in that world but like he's very like anonymous okay well how did he land you how did he land me oh you were probably underage when you i was we were both 17 at the time yeah and he it was like long distance okay it was long distance and we started to just kind of like get to know each other online and then we started dating and then she just got crazy from there we he is really like a narcissist like like he me up for a while yeah anything in particular that he did yeah hellish he like docks me like he just like he has like no life essentially so he just like takes everything to like instagram twitter and just like goes crazy one of those one of those tries like blackmail you just like super sick in the head was it difficult for you to make a clean break from him no it was actually like easy i was cool off of him i was just like trying to keep him like at bay because he was just a tweaker okay but uh he he was holding you back on the adult content side a little bit but i just like i knew that i wanted to like do me anyway so i was just like i don't really care like what you think about that i feel like when you're with somebody when you're that young yeah your feelings get hurt yeah he definitely was a crybaby ass bitch like he had way too many like expectations on me as like a young girl you know what i mean it's like he was like the same age as me what kind of expectations he wanted you to settle down with Yeah, he wanted me to just, like, be very clean.
12:06You know what I mean? Like, be very, like, don't do this. Don't post that. Like, just have, like, a good, I don't know. He was just on dick. He just, like, he clocked everything I did. Like, he just, like, he was, like, stalking me crazy. Like, really a stalker. He was really just, like, obsessed with me. It still is to this day. But some girls want that, right? I don't personally want that. Like, I think that that's, like, a sign of, like, really, like, mental illness. if you are showing that much interest you're giving up all your power in the relationship because it's like the girl's not gonna fight for you or work for your love or whatever if you're just like love bombing her all the time it wasn't even love bombing though it's like he expects a girl to trick on him it's like he wants to be the bitch he's gay it's like he wants to be the one that's like getting catered to taking care of all while being like the little like sissy bitch honestly wow you seem like you really want smoke with this guy i think he wants smoke with me is he gonna be furious when he sees you calling him gay on a podcast i don't think he's gonna be furious i feel like he has like no pool in real life maybe he'll be like low-key like kind of turned on by it we don't talk we're no contact oh it's been a while it's been a while okay yeah he's so irrelevant oh shit so okay that ends and then how does life change from there how does life change from there i just started just going up from there i just like started doing my own thing doing content and stuff okay what when did you decide that you wanted to like really take your ass to the next level because obviously for those who haven't put the pieces together that's when that's where the jumbotron name came from yeah being just like wait where do you think it came from what do you think like i didn't know what nickname i was gonna get so do you think it fits i mean when i was describing you to the guys in the office before you came in i was like yeah i was like she's a white girl with like probably the biggest fake ass that you've ever seen oh you think it's fake it's not you think it's fake how could it not be fake it's like i feel like it gives like it could be real like yeah yeah i've always had a very like curvy body ever since i was young i think that's why i like i hit puberty at a very young age so i was like that's why i was like naturally a little bit like morally unless there's like some real trickery going on i just don't think you get an ass that big with a waist that is relatively small yeah i've been in this game for a while it doesn't really seem like that's a thing i don't remember girls looking like that before like the last 10 years is that what you're into do you like like i'm not mad at it at all for sure yeah in the porn game a lot of yeah it's a lot of asses that could not occur in nature but that we we still love i just had things some things enhanced but i always had like that figure naturally right i want to know you took the fucking fat out of your stomach and put in your ass right kind of a little something it's not a question of like if you did it's a question like how many times did you do it and like how hard you went no i didn't go hard at all really you only did one time or just one time really yeah i mean that what's what's the girl's name with the the biggest ass ever the latina girl from uh she did the love island thing i forget her name she did love gracie bond not actual oh she's a baddie yeah no i do love her but uh i mean she's an example i have lipedema so it's like naturally like i've always had like a very like thicker lower body do you know what is lipedema lipedema i think gracie bond also has lipedema what is it it's like essentially like where fat collects on the lower half of your body like more naturally it's like the fat cells are like kind of like in a way it's like diseased fat really in a way yeah i never heard that before that's insane really yeah yeah wow so you had this was it like an issue it had been diagnosed before you yeah it had been diagnosed before and were you like upset about this at one point i wasn't upset about it i tried to just like accept you know like the body that i have god gave you exactly but i did want to enhance it you know just to kind of like make it a little bit more just to look kind of miami approved not miami approved i mean you know you go to miami and it's like it starts to kind of twist your brain into thinking that the only way to get attention as a baddie is to really go hard on that booty i don't think so i feel like do you like whatever like you feel like is best for your body i just want to be healthy you know what i mean but it's like naturally i had like a lipoedema so i was just like trying to work with what i got but did things start to really change at that point in terms of the amount of attention you get from dudes no i always had the the same amount of attention honestly and never really so i was like i've always been bad so i was like you know certain bitches like get surgery like they hadn't been bad before so like they don't know how to handle it i always kind of just like was used to it yeah i feel like the girls who are like really pretty from a young age those are the girls who like never really learn how hard life is because like pretty privilege yeah i mean the world just like wants to do whatever you need so it's like what where for a guy if you want to get the same treatment that a random hot girl gets you have to basically become like rich and or famous in order for the world to like accommodate like i get it honestly because like i will go to a club and some random promoter will be like no we have to give you a table we have to give you this these free bottles like you know like weird shit like that and it like as time goes by i realize like oh that's just like what it's like for like regular hot girls and i had to do like 3 000 podcasts yeah yeah i feel you but i feel like it's it's more to it sometimes like it's really just like about like the the personality you know like it's not always like looks because some bitches are really like throwed right they have the looks they have looks but they don't have like the heart or you know like the soul to go with it but that's the thing is that if you've got the gigantic ass or if you've got if you're just hot as it's like the personality you know don't really matter that much you don't think so i mean it's nice and and maybe like i feel like it takes you further there's a lot of girls who are wifed up by nba players and rappers who have like the worst personalities on earth what like the wags yeah they're just hot as what's a wag again uh like wife of like a like athlete oh okay yeah yeah yeah the wax but you you don't know what it stands for wife of what wife of gamer i don't know i don't know what it stands for we're gonna figure what the a is but yeah okay um but you know i'm saying it's like a lot of okay we'll put it like this is that like the women out there who are like the smartest on earth are not the ones pulling the bad athletes and all the top rappers and shit like how do you think that happens then like the guys just like kind of like pick the bad bitches like they don't go for like regular girls yeah like guys like myself included when i really think about like a lot of the girls that i've lost sleep about in my life they were like largely the girls who just were lucky enough to have been born with really really nice facial features or whatever yeah i agree i feel like it definitely has to be like you can't just build a bitch you know what i mean like it has to be a good foundation you know it's like everything can be enhanced like you can get things to like improve your you know like your figure but you can't just like completely build it i had a lot of girls in my life over the years where like my my rational brain was like you should marry her she's an amazing person she'll like take care of you for the rest of your life like she's perfect yeah but they weren't hot enough so i just weren't hot i just dipped out and kept doing my thing your wife is pretty hot so i see why why you and that and but that's what i'm saying is that i ended up with a girl who is an amazing person yeah really smart really responsible but also like really really hot it goes hand in hand which is what was my point yeah it takes both you know yeah i breezed past a bunch of girls in my life and you know kept looking for a girl who was like you know hotter which is like it's pretty up but i mean that is kind of like one day my daughter is gonna ask me like why i fell in love with her mom and i'm gonna have to like not say right like what she was hot uh she dm'd me and then okay we had sex right away and it's pretty fire so i love that yeah modern day romance she had never had her ass eaten before so oh so you were the first the first date yeah yeah on the first date i should have got her to eat my ass that night because that would be a really good story so what you really like getting your ass ate like no no i don't want to seem like a zest lord who's like super into that i know all about that so i'm like no i mean i feel like okay outside of the porn thing how many girls have eaten my ass in my life like yeah outside of it like it wasn't like performative not like maybe like i don't know like less than 10 for sure less than 10 i would never like really ask for it they just like do it once in a while really i think so really i've had can you silence that yeah thanks but um no yeah because I mean I'm just like I don't know I don't like get a lot out of it the only thing I get out of it is like oh my god you are disgusting like you are so you're a freaky bitch yeah and I mean there's something about that like that's cool like I've only had one experience where like someone wanted me to eat their ass and it was very like it was very disgusting it was disgusting it just kind of threw me off with the flies no it wasn't no it was like he just kind of like spread his legs up and like just was like he didn't really like say he wanted that but it gave that i mean that's the weird part about it is that you kind of have to hit like a zesty pose in order to enable it very zesty you have to get very you gotta hit him with this yep you gotta get and that was the exact pose that was the exact pose yes but i'm pretty sure yeah like he i'm pretty sure his he's a bitch now like i'm pretty sure she eats his ass so that's why okay they they work out but in porn when the girl like says she wants to i'm just like oh my god that's insane and i feel like i just kind of figured out the baby wipe thing that you really like if someone's gonna eat your ass you really gotta go the extra mile down there you definitely do you have to like know what you're doing yeah i just feel like that's not my kink that's i don't blame you that's not my kink you're too cute for that you don't have to eat us my my girl's super lazy now too she like she used to eat my ass like once in a while when we were drunk or whatever she don't really do that anymore yeah well now it's like she's like you know she's a mom and shit so it's like you can't eat ass when you're a mom no i feel like she's probably grown past that well you know what actually happened is that she got pregnant and then she got weird about smells really yeah i don't know if you know about this but when you're pregnant like a lot of times you get like way more sensitive to smells and or you like uh you just you you can't really you get more sensitive to taste too like all the senses like taste like if that's where you like crave certain things you have like certain like yeah things that you like like there's an episode of the office where um somebody's eating like hard-boiled eggs and uh Pam Bees is pregnant and she starts puking in the trash can and then everybody else starts puking in the trash can but like that kind of happened to my girl and then she like never really lost it like she never used to like complain about my morning breath and now i wake up and i'm like this far away from her and she's just like oh my god your breast i'm kind of sensitive to like senses and stuff too so i feel like but i've never been pregnant so i don't know yeah just like naturally are you excited to get pregnant or are you like i'm on birth control so it's not something i'm like really planning for i feel like having kids right now is just not in my my plans maybe in the future 23 is too early 20 yeah exactly this is like prime time yeah i mean you're getting annihilated you're drinking at 1 p.m hey you gotta start early it's five o 'clock somewhere do you drink every day no i don't drink every day oh okay do you no i don't drink like at all at all yeah once i'm sure you like did when you were 23 like yeah when i was younger i was turning up for sure right yeah so but That's just where I'm at.
23:57Now I like smoke weed and that's about it. Oh, I smoke hella weed. Do you? I do. I really do. That's dope. Especially in Cali. It's just like, that's the thing to do here. Just falling from the sky. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's everywhere. I was really trying to stop for a while. And like, I actually, so I used to like have spliffs on deck all the time. And I stopped doing that. But the thing is, is that people keep giving me weed regardless. And so then I just. You just can't stop. It's like, if it's free, how am I not going to stop? smoke it exactly which is really dumb because even when it's not free when you have to pay for it it's still like not like a like a real amount of money it's like i like to just get super high and just like vibe out honestly yeah i mean i like getting high and like laying in bed and watching tv before i go to bed that's really like nightcap you know yeah i agree but then also like the time periods in my life where i haven't been smoking weed that i feel like you sleep a lot better when you're not smoking when you're not do you like dream a lot do you have like crazy dreams when i stop smoking i dream so much and it's scary i'm like waking up in cold sweats and shit from all the weird stuff that's happening in my dreams wait so did you see the jersey though like did you see like the drip the spurs the spurs did you see the back filthy so some of the people at home are getting a little bit of a taste of what's going on here outside of the jersey, I guess.
25:22Outside of the jersey. So what am I supposed to think about the jersey, though? Because I don't know anything about sports. You don't know anything about sports? That's like the whole thing here, no jumper. It's more like no jumper. I don't know shit about sports either, but I just thought the jersey was hard because it's like But why does it say filthy on the back? You know Wake Up Filthy? Who? Oh, yeah, yeah. I interviewed him back in the day. Back in the day? Yeah. Okay. Like 10 years ago? Yeah, this is just... But why is his name on the back of the Spurs jersey? How do you think I got it? what so he made it he made like custom oh he made a custom jersey and then gave it to you well someone made it for him and then i just uh acquired it so you were f***ing him and you took it on the way no no that's my best friend no that's not what happened i was like out it was like the cardi concert and then a fan had gave it to him and i was like oh i want the jersey because it's hard see i like saw him in like some i think it was like a documentary youtube video the other day and I realized that if I saw him in real life for sure I would not recognize him at this point.
26:21He just looks way different than when I was around him a few times. So I gotta like, I don't know like probably, I feel like there's like a pretty high chance I have been around him and didn't realize it was him so that kind of sucks. Cause he's like, he was like brand new hot underground producer when I interviewed him back in the day and now I feel like he's like fucking gigantic. So it was like kind of offensive. He's a little unrecognizable. I just, you know, he looked different 10 years later you know for sure i'm sure you look different for sure but he probably would recognize me but i feel like he's like got a lot more drip and garb and he'll probably have like some snowboarding goggles on the side of his head or some shit like that he probably would i feel like he's your best friend yeah that's my bestie how'd you guys become besties we met the strip club in houston nice you were stripping no i was there don't want oh yeah so you just go to strip club and just blow OnlyFans money on the girls?
27:14I was just I I'm good friends with Eric who's Eric? The owner of Area 29 so we were just there partying he was just there and it was just like it was organic and then we went to the show the next day which show? The weekend show oh okay interesting yeah um okay so wait do you go to college or not? No I went to I graduated high school during covid and then i just didn't go to college i'm going back to college in the fall though oh really for what i'm gonna do like digital marketing i feel like somebody in your position typically doesn't go back to college right like i think i'm making pretty all right money i i just want to like go back to school and just have like uh a structure you know what i mean i feel like when i was in school i just had like more of a routine yeah and it's so close to where I live in Houston that's like I just want to get back into it yeah once you leave college or school did you go to college I went to school for like two years after I dropped out that's that's why I didn't go out of originally like I didn't go straight from high school to college because I was like I want to ride my own like I knew I would drop out and I didn't want to be the person's like oh I dropped out so I was like let me just like do my own thing and then go back to school because it's always an option to like just go back to school later in life so now I'm at that point where it's like i want to just see what it's about the only time i thought about it in my adult life though is because i heard academics talking about going to like college again to be a lawyer really yeah a lot of my friends actually are going to college to be a lawyer but i don't think he wants to be a lawyer i think he just wants to get way more understanding of the legal system for the content which i don't know if he's like i i don't think he's serious because it was like over a year ago that he said that and i haven't heard him mention it again okay but i mean like from a content perspective it would be cool to like have sort of like the the skill set of a lawyer but also it's like you're already successful i just like knowledge is power so it's like the more you can just like acquire as much knowledge as possible yeah but but also it's like if you have a business and you're doing well and especially something like content it's like i don't know like i just like having a lawyer there's so much flexibility within this job but it's like but it's got to be like 60 hours a week of work yeah at least 40 hours yeah to be a lawyer seems way more intense and then even then like if i just feel like you know kim kardashian tried to pass the bar like 10 times and she failed every time well honestly i feel like school is like everyone has their own pace so it's like it's not like well no you have to they have a pace for you like you have to like you're on a schedule right well yes but you just might not be able don't just give up because you failed the test like you got to try again you know yeah but if you do it 10 times i think it was probably pretty reasonable to give up to just give up you're a quitter i mean bro 10 times 10 times like that's your purpose like if that's what you want to do in life like if kim k wants to be like a lawyer like that's but i think that's part of the problem is she doesn't really want to be a lawyer she just wanted to get the degree so that she could kind of say like hey i'm not just famous for being you know someone who got down by ray j look at me i'm a lawyer which i get it it's cool but also it's like everybody else that you're in school with is becoming a lawyer because that's literally like what they want to do to pay their bills and then meanwhile you're already outlandishly rich you're never going to have to use this why would you ever take it as serious as somebody who's taking it as serious as if it was life or death i feel like she just has like a calling to like have like justice like create justice within the system because it is so corrupt you know i mean maybe but i just i just feel like she's not like she's not she gave up after 10 tries because i don't know if it was 10 but it was like a lot hayley she didn't give up though i thought she did i thought she passed no she she still doesn't pass the bar no i'm gonna really double check just to make sure huh the baby bar okay passed the baby bar she's working her way there you know what i mean it's like she had to accomplished so many other things like that's like now like that's just where she's at no yeah i respect it i mean she she tried something big but ultimately i mean didn't really work out so so what so you dropped out of college what were you in college for what was like uh just whatever like i i was able to go to college for free because my mom worked for the state okay where it was state uh so i'm i'm from new hampshire but my mom was a librarian at a college in massachusetts which was like 20 30 minute drive from my house so uh i went to college for two years and just like took a bunch of classes because she convinced me like basically like i won't make you move out or pay rent if you go to college and i did it for two years and i just couldn't handle it you're gonna handle it i just like was i had so many other things that i was into that i was doing that i just was like i just got over it pretty quick i feel like it's just like a fun thing to do i'm I don't want to go to college to become a lawyer or anything, but I just want to have some more knowledge.
32:11What do you want to study? I said digital marketing. Oh, right. Okay. Like business, that kind of vibe. I'm already in that, so why not just know more about it and learn as much as I can to just maximize the opportunity. I mean, it's probably like you do that or you just go full sex worker, right? Full sex worker. I kind of do a little bit of both. Right, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that would be an irony if you tried to be a lawyer. no I don't think I would try to be a lawyer I wouldn't I would I have a friend who's in college to be a lawyer I'm like he can be my lawyer but I don't want to be a lawyer like I would hire a lawyer yeah when I see how much money I have to pay my lawyers I'm like holy maybe I should be a lawyer yeah maybe you should I could see you like you seem kind of like you like to debate and like I don't think this is I feel like people get this idea that being a lawyer is like being a debater when I think it's actually like filling out insane amount of paperwork doing insane amounts of research learning just all the most technical minutiae possible and i just don't i i think a lot of people like the idea of it even with act like him saying like oh if i go to college to become a lawyer then like it'll help me to like cover these legal cases i mean how often is that really even applicable like granted rappers go to jail a lot oh for sure but is it like i mean you could just like have a lawyer that you like talk to on stream and like get information from them right I think at the reunion there was like a lawyer that hopped in like from Morgan and Morgan.
33:33Did you watch the reunion? Uh-huh. No. It was crazy. Why? Just everybody fighting? Everybody was fighting. It was so much shit going on. I was like blackout drunk in the back. Like I think I like disappeared. Really? Briefly. Why? You have like a real alcohol problem, huh? No. They just feed you liquor. Really? So it was very much like I had been just fucked up at that point. Uh-huh. By the time we were actually shooting, I was like, I don't know what's going on. Did you bang Drewski? No, I didn't bang Drewski. Did you like want to or think about it? I had thought about it. I feel like there was some chemistry, but it wasn't like, I feel like he just couldn't handle me.
34:14Really? Respectfully, yeah. Too much cake? Too much cake. I feel like he just don't got it on him. You think his dick is small? I could see it being small, allegedly. It could be small. Just because he's fat? Not good. I feel like he just couldn't handle me. I don't know. It's just like he just. Well, the girl that he did fuck from what I recall, Riley, was pretty. Me likey? She was skinny, yeah. Yeah? You think they actually fucked? I don't know. She talked about it like a lot on the show, though. A lot, a lot. So if she didn't, then it's like you might as well have, right? If you're going to just keep pretending for the rest of your life.
34:53I mean, you were there. You're saying you think it was fake? From what I saw, allegedly, I feel like it didn't really happen. I feel like it was very forced. Really? Yeah, it was. Wow. That's interesting. Okay, I'll take your word for it since you were there. But was there a lot of stuff that was fake or did it feel like that? Yeah, a lot of shit was fake. Like what? Well, what do you think was fake? Did you watch it? You didn't watch all of it. You didn't watch like half of it or some shit like that. I don't know. I mean, yeah, everything seems kind of fake to be totally real. I mean, you like bring a girl in the jet and then like get rid of her right after.
35:24I don't know it just feels like yeah I don't I mean I've done like reality tv shit so I know I know it only makes sense this is my first experience with reality tv so I didn't have like uh much expectation but I was like this shit is crazy it was definitely like very crazy I mean from my experience reality tv yeah you fake everything and then you there's no shame in that because you just don't have enough time for shit to like really like if you look at old reality shows from like you know 20 years ago they would kind of just put people in the same house together for like months together like the real world that's what they would do and they didn't bad girls club did you watch like bad girls club nah but i mean but some of those shows that like are over a longer period of time like blue face is uh baby mama jayden she told me that she did baddies and she was on set for like over a month and i feel like in some of those environments like they put you in fucked up environments and sort of like wait for shit to happen right but if drewski's filming a reality show where it's like he's doing it in six days you have to like just make shit happen you gotta make some shit shake it was like just it was it was intense yeah but we're did you go into it thinking like i'm gonna fuck drisky by the end of this i didn't think that honestly i thought maybe it could happen like maybe like just because it could maybe like we didn't have much one-on-one time though honestly like he was kind of like out the way okay yeah i mean that was that stood out to me a lot is that he didn't seem like he was really around yeah he wasn't her i feel like he was like i don't know i feel like he has a whole girlfriend outside of the show that's what i think really interesting i got fooled too by when he like took sky bree to that game yeah i was like kind of oh yeah you know sky bree right i signed her yeah you signed her i discovered her you discovered her 2 000 followers yeah boom she was nice she actually kind of like forced herself upon me really kind of like i had been DMing her and didn't really like think much of it and then we started interviewing like I feel like she was really overwhelmed in the house like she didn't cause she is a very sensitive soul she is she's like a very nice normal sort of anxious person right so that environment where everybody's fighting and shit for sure that's like not natural to her it was very I mean I feel like it's not natural to anyone like an environment where everyone's just kind of fighting like we're that's just like it feels like jail yeah definitely you have any good squabbles in there or no I didn't know.
37:48I didn't get touched. The best was when that giant girl, I forget her name. Wasumbo? Yes. I would say that was pretty. That was real? That was real. It felt real. She got so angry at some girl for hitting her or whatever. And she's stalking throughout the house. Just like, where is she? She's like the Incredible Hulk or Godzilla or some shit. I actually met her in Miami. She had a very gentle. Oh, yeah. I met her at Brand Risk and just took a picture with her just because she was tall. And then I started watching the show and realized that's where she was from. Yeah. She's gorgeous, too. I'm like.
38:23Yeah, she's kind of hot, huh? She is hot. You know, like tall chicks? I don't have a type. Okay. Yeah. Tall's crazy, though, for a girl. Tall? I feel like she just, she has aura. Like, she really does. She was, I feel like they had just kind of, like, pushed her to a point. You know? My daughter's super tall. Really? She's only five and a half, but she's like 99 % of height for her age. So it is kind of weird sometimes to think like, oh, are you going to be like a freak? Yeah, she could be in the WNBA, you know? Yeah. And I try to tell her that. I try to explain to her that if you play basketball, you make a lot of money.
38:59And I don't think she really understands the concept of wanting to make a lot of money yet. Well, yeah, because she's like, what is she talking about a Nepo baby in a way? Like in a way? She will probably be one in some way or like whatever the opposite of a Nepo baby is. a stigma baby where your parents are so f***ed up that everybody like you would say y 'all are f***ed up? not f***ed up but like you know unconventional yeah I mean I'm sure there'll be like benefits but I'm sure there'll be negatives attached to it as well yeah your dad is out on 22 and he's a f***ing psychopath I don't know not a psychopath not too much on the porn thing not too much yeah like that's it was just a side quest for you maybe thank you I'm gonna call it a side quest too it was just a side quest yeah I'll say that but uh wait so porn wise are you are you're you're on the gram or not what do you mean by that and not the gram i'm not only fans obviously nobody can fuck on the gram not currently no you never done anything like that i have just it's been i think it's been like almost a year so it's like hard to find that content i wouldn't say hard i mean it's not like continue like you know people that have like boyfriends like the girls like they'll just like continuous like every day like so who'd you bang on only friends a lot of girls mainly girls that's what i prefer i've done one threesome or two threesomes on camera with stella andrews you know stella yeah yeah yeah we did a threesome that was fire i love stella yeah like that was actually my last collab in july of last year okay but the times that you have taken on camera was that like a big decision it wasn't a big decision it was just where i was at in life boyfriend or it was like it was like a safe space you know i mean like it wasn't like you know what i mean like i feel like this industry can be like a little bit intense so it was like it just like made sense like i'm never gonna just like force some shit on camera just like get the video you know what i mean i'm gonna like feel it out make sure it feels right for me i mean that's the weird thing about porn is that like you can't feel it out you need to like get tested oh yeah sign the agreements for sure but i'll like link with someone first see how like before i even want to just them like directly you know what i mean like just see if we would have chemistry you know right yeah i mean it's not mainstream i feel like mainstream is way more like you're f***ing this person it's very much like okay this is the date time this that mainstream porn you show up and you you don't even know who you're f***ing exactly i like to know who i'm f***ing yeah a lot of girls that's kind of a weird part of it is that you might not even know what guy you're getting until they show up.
41:36Yeah. That's. I mean, the weird part about it is that like you could film some shit with your girlfriend where you're like, you know, fingering yourself or like putting dildos in you or whatever. And it's like that is what it is. Like nobody really thinks that's that crazy. But then as soon as you shoot a scene with a guy, it's like his might be the exact same size as a dildo. Right. But to the world. Yeah. that's just so much crazier that you had a real penis inside you um not really honestly like once in a while if i need to jerk off in a hurry yeah yeah i'm not really like it's kind of just like my alter ego you know it's like i don't your alter myself as a porn star you know what i mean i know but that's that's like i'm trying to like gauge like if you like wanted to do that at some point or if that just seems attractive at all i did at some point not as much where i'm at right now i just like don't feel the need to like phone camera right now see that's the weird thing about porn is that now because the only fans so many girls they just they don't see the need to because who cares like yeah it's like i feel like i'm fine shit on my own so i don't need someone like a guy to like make me right like do you have guys like paying all your bills and shit
42:57kind of yeah in a way not like only fans money which technically comes from guys yeah but that's what i was gonna say like that's technically like in a way right like only fans funds everything technically but i just feel like a lot of girls that i know have like sugar daddy type situations going on where they're basically like they got some guy who's kind of paying for i've dabbled okay is that something that you enjoy or is it something that you kind of got sick of I enjoy it until like they don't have their hush money you know I mean it's like that's where I feel like a man like what's the hush money the hush money it's like I feel like a guy will like want you to like just be you know like at his beck and call and it's like I'm just not that type of girl so it's like well like with a sugar daddy that's kind of like what they're paying for is the discretion of like you're not gonna go tell my wife you're not gonna post me on instagram right you're just gonna spend time with me when I want you to deal with like being disrespected so it's like hard to like you know it has to be like very like reciprocal i mean that's that's the other thing these days is like you know girls have enough options so that they don't want to like be treated like a side piece even if they are exactly no so you want the benefits of being like their girlfriend but then also getting everything paid for so it's like i just want to be like respected in like that environment as much as i can because you know what i mean it's Like, I feel like it's already tricky.
44:19It gets tricky. So you couldn't have, okay, if you had some dude that you met and he's giving you 50 grand a month, which I don't know how much money you make, so I don't know how much that matters, but presumably that's pretty good. And he's got a wife, and the deal is that, like, you talk to him and stuff. Maybe if there's, like, some paperwork involved. What's the paperwork going to say? Like an NDA. Like, maybe, like, some things are, like. Well, but that's going to protect you, not him. No, it's going to protect him, not you, if there's an NDA. I guess, but I feel like if in the clause there's some things laid out, then I could keep the secret.
44:58But if not, I'm not going to just protect them. Why does this need to be a business arrangement? Why can't you just be a well-paid side piece? A well-paid side piece? $50 ,000 a month, that's just the number I threw out there. Yeah? Yeah. That's like the fucking lottery. That's the lottery for you? I mean, it's 600k a year. That's pretty good, right? It could work. We could make some arrangements. I hear girls bitch and complain about the price of pussy going down as time goes by because of the fact that there are so many girls escorting or doing the sugar daddy thing or whatever that it's just like once in a while I hear a girl talking about guys spending serious racks on it, like crazy amounts.
45:37What's the most you would pay for pussy? Zero. Hypothetically. I would never. Oh, really? Never. Okay. yeah not only that but i'm just not like a baller type like i'm just not like i'm married so i like buy her stuff sometimes sure but like if i was single again i feel like i need like rules i need like confines to like any relationship i can get into which is like i'm not getting into any relationship that's like based on me being able to like buy shit for or pay for anything or whatever like you're not like a provider no if you want that kind of relationship then like you know i i I want to be the kind of guy who's getting whatever I'm getting off of the fact that I'm hilarious and brilliant.
46:15And let me hear. I haven't heard one joke. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't work on call like that. But no, I'm serious. Like I'm not like, because my whole life, you got to understand that this new age where every girl is a prostitute, like not literally, but kind of. I'm like, no, not literally, but like the way that girls like want all their bills, pay all this like that. I feel like that did not exist before the last 10 years. But you've got to understand. Well, isn't prostitution the oldest profession? Yeah. So how did it not exist before 10 years? For sure. Prostitution always existed. I'm talking about normal girls who think that it makes sense.
46:51I'm not going to be in a relationship with a guy unless they're spending money on me from the very beginning of the relationship. I've never done that. Isn't that just courting and taking care? No, I'm not doing that kind of courting. No? No, I want someone that will like me for my personality. Okay. yeah you're just staring at me like i'm retarded because this is so out of the question i know but like that's why i feel like like honestly a lot of stuff that i see when watching like the could have been love thing or whatever i'm just like bro the world has just kind of left me behind because these girls are and i just don't i don't ever want to be the kind of guy who has to like lead with the money side of things like i want you to fuck me i want you to fuck Because I'm hilarious and I'm famous.
47:37Okay, so for the clout. And I'm like really cool. Okay, so you just like a golf of like face card. You think you got it. Yeah, I mean I was doing my whole life. Yeah. So why not, right? That makes sense. Yeah, but also I realized that like a lot of the hottest chicks out there, you're like probably not gonna really like win them over unless you're spending legitimate amounts of money on them. Yeah. But I can live with that. I just like, I like to feel like it's... that you're that he's spending money on you to to display how much he likes i just like to be the feminine role like i like to be like more submissive you know so it's like i'm not gonna that's why my ex that was gay is like i could not take that like i really i couldn't take like him wanting to be like the feminine role in the relationship you know it's like that just it doesn't stay right with me but okay that's the scenario that so many other girls that i know end up in where i think men really just like want to be bitches these days like honestly exactly yes we do but with chicks like you because it's like i know girls who make huge amounts of money off porn or only fans or whatever and then they get a boyfriend and the boyfriend or a lot of times they kind of come in the game with a boyfriend or whatever but he is basically like he's not some millionaire he's just a dude he's cool but he doesn't maybe have the drive to be out there like making some huge amount of money or whatever but it's all good because the girl is making all this money and then so he's around because a girl like that she's not gonna want to date me i'm in here fucking like eight hours a day 10 hours a day whatever it's like i would be a terrible boyfriend for a normal girl because i just like work too much these guys are great because they're around all the time like you you want to film only fans content with me at 10 a.m i'm there because i got nothing else to do yeah i just i i can't really do that in the same way so but but then these girls they end up dumping the dudes because they want to be with a rich guy but then there's not that many like rich guys who really want to be in a long-term relationship yeah they're all hoes they're literally like all like just cheaters like not all of them but it's like a lot of the guys i feel like with money like you were saying it's like being the side piece like having like a girl that you take care of on the side but you have a wife that's like but you but you couldn't like handle a guy okay say you're the wife okay you can't handle him having some hoes on the side i think if things are like make sense like if like i'm fully like taking care of the thing i could be open to that but i wouldn't want to know about it like it would need to be like fully like i respect discretion but let's be real a lot of times that's not how it works yeah the girls find out things get exposed things on the internet yeah things are getting messy i knew dudes who would like tour in the 90s like specifically bmx dudes who would like be on tour and they would have a different girlfriend in like every city because that's exactly you're on the road and it's like oh i'm in utah and i've got like a notebook and i got this girl's like number written in the notebook and i hit her up when i'm in town or whatever and then they have a wife back home how would the wife ever find out maybe one of the hoes writes a letter to your wife like is that going to happen like with how would they ever even figure out who your wife was but nowadays it can just be aired out yeah especially me like if i was like really out of cheating i mean that would be that would be all over the internet yeah you would either have to have like unbelievable caution and discretion through the grapevine it's like someone you could hear something from another you know i feel like it's a small world do you feel like that it's like sometimes yeah i couldn't even pay for pussy because all the girls that pay for pussy are probably fans of my wife exactly yeah So the guy's paying your way through life.
51:17He puts babies in you. You're a stay-at-home mom, but you're still a baddie, whatever. But then you don't know, but you know that he's fucking around with other girls too. But it doesn't really get in the way of your relationship. Yeah, as long as I could hypothetically deal with it. If the arrangement makes sense. It has to just be very reciprocal. cool like it's like i'm not gonna put up with something to put up with it like i need to like know what but you're getting a lifestyle paid paid for you're the wife you have that status yeah if i'm the wife then it's like okay do you think people are like like humans are meant to be like monogamous i think women are okay i think guys probably are not really like meant to be monogamous from like a biological perspective why because like women can only get like pregnant like yeah like and but men could like it's not multiple women biologically useful for a woman to have sex with a lot of guys really because a woman like she wants to nest she wants to create a family for the guy it's like yeah you want to create a family but you probably want to create like a bunch of families it's just like the modern world doesn't really allow for that i wouldn't want that personally you don't want that multiple wives no no even one wife is insane to me like i'm just like such a workaholic like the fact that i've even landed in a position where i have a wife in a kid is like crazy to me what the idea that wasn't like multiple life it's not really necessarily my goal in life so like when we're talking even hypothetically about this it's like it's hard to even get in that perspective but it has to probably be your goal in life at some point right i wouldn't say it's my goal in life to become a mom but don't you think that's probably gonna like kick in at some point like you know like because you got a countdown you got like 10 12 years 10 12 years I mean realistically by the time you like like women who have babies in their late 30s or 40s those are like high-risk pregnancies typically for sure and the world kind of like lies to you about that and wants you to think that like oh you can just have a baby no problem till you're 40 I mean even by the time you get to the late 30s I mean it's like way higher risk of miscarriage you know it's just like because I know women who are like in their late 30s who definitely have that sense of like oh shit i missed the boat you i i just like feel like if it happens if the opportunity presents itself then i would have a kid but i'm on birth control so like i'm not looking or trying to have a kid because i feel like i know a chick who's like 45 and she just got pregnant and that's crazy i know and i'm so happy that's amazing though like that's yeah it took a lot of work from what i understand like ivf there's so many like things and tools nowadays it's like you can have adoption like there's so many outlets true but okay so she's like 45 just got pregnant i'm really happy for her but it does stand out to me it's pretty crazy that that kid is going to be going to high school at the same time that she starts collecting social security that's crazy to you i mean yeah it's like you know like realistically the average person dies around like 75 76 so like by the time you know your kid hits 30 but after that it's like Having a kid later in life is, I feel like, has its pros.
54:23Because you kind of have already lived your life. Yeah, I don't hate on it at all. I think it's amazing. Although also, like, you know, having a kid in my 30s, it's like you have the energy to have a kid. Whereas, like, I just, I look at my parents. My parents are, like, 76 or whatever. And, like, holy shit, I could not imagine them dealing with a fucking 18-year-old or whatever. I couldn't imagine, like, having a kid where I'm at right now. so i'm like i would definitely wait later in life you feel like you've ever been in love i it's just not a priority like i don't seek that you know i feel like i'm not in like uh uh i don't know i just don't feel like i'm looking seeking love i think you're too caught up in the clubbing the cocaine the 1942 no i've been in the i'm multiple different size bottles First of all, this is like the best.
55:21But this is it too, right? Well, yes. Oh, no, it was the Don. It's the mini Don. The mini Don. Yeah, the mini Don. I really don't drink much, though, and I really don't do drugs. I just like smoke weed, like to just vibe. I don't get super into the club. Yeah, see, life is so easy when you're a hot chick. You can just vibe. What do you want to do in life? Just vibe. You know, just vibe. Guys, it's like, I need a plan. I need to be a drop shipper. You're the man with the plan? I'm going to sell NFTs. I'm going to be a crypto guy. I mean, as a guy, you really got to do a lot to establish your worth.
55:56So do you think women are naturally born with worth because they're hot chicks? They're hot? Hot chicks just get carried through life. Hot chicks just carry. But is that not like the natural order of the world? Yeah, it just makes sense that way because women do hold so much power. you know but also we live in a patriarchy to where it's like that kind of sets us up for some disadvantages you know yeah no that's true but also i think the patriarchy inherently is like very beneficial right we're getting super like political and like economical it's okay but no but like the patriarchy is like one in which like women are kind of like taken care of and pampered like i feel like somebody like you's not like really fallen for this like feminist lie that you're gonna be happier if you like work 80 hours a week like you are embracing the patriarchy you're like i want to be hot i want to have a chill life maybe i'll make some kids like 10 years from now but basically i want the guy to go to work pay for my lifestyle and then i'll be hot and i'm just gonna like use the tools and the resources that i have you know i'm just gonna like but you also have it the best of both worlds too because you make enough money from only fans that you could yeah i don't rely on men for shit if anything I just work with what I've been given.
57:18I don't try to take advantage of people. I like generous people. I like to be just taken care of. I feel like a man that sees my worth will see that I'm worth being pursued. The whole time that I was single before my wife and i believe i think i i stopped keeping track about the time i started dating her but i think i was just like 300 girls before her and never during that time period did a girl really ever try to like get me to spend money on her in some like real way so they were just going like they were just going yeah like and i think that was normal like like where like and i don't remember any of my friends ever yeah being in situations where it was like you took the dom for me like i just put it no i'm okay i just put it on the other side of the mic okay but i i just feel like that's like the world has changed so much i was with my friend in new hampshire where i'm from yeah and his his son is like 14 i think and he was talking about how there's a girl from school and he wanted to date her and she told him that she wanted him to buy her this three thousand louis vuitton purse and that was crazy to you he's 14 that that's a little crazy yeah i told him i'm like you're a idiot if you do that you need to be able to finesse this chick without wait so you think finesse so what do you think like like like hitting and quitting is finessing that's what yeah but also like that's like that was your that was the mode you were in you were like wanting to finesse women it's not like literally finessing but it's like that's called like getting into a normal relationship that's the perspective it's like i don't have the finessing perspective i I just have like reciprocity.
58:58You do. You just don't even know that it's finessing. It's reciprocity. It really is. What are you giving? It's just like equal give and take. You just spending time with him? You just said it's finessing. But he has to spend on you for your time. And then meanwhile, you're not spending on him for his time. You're just spending your time with him. I'm giving my time and energy as well. It's like reciprocal. I know, but you're treating a relationship like a job where it's like you deserve to get an hourly wage for just spending time with him. I'm not even dating right now. I really am not even dating right now.
59:27I'm not even saying that you are doing this currently. I'm just saying that in general, you have the mentality of the average girl in their mid-20s at this point who, from my perspective, the guys out there - I'm really down to earth, though. I can have relationships that aren't contingent upon someone funding my life. Yeah. You would be in a relationship like that with somebody like me, but it's because you'd be getting something else out of it. What do you mean? The esteem of being in a relationship with me, probably. the esteem yeah like it would feed my ego yeah but then at some point that's gonna wear away that doesn't mean shit to me honestly like that doesn't okay but like look let's take me out of it if Drewski and you had like hit it off on that show and you guys end up a relationship and he told you like the same thing I'm saying which is like basically like I'm not a trick I'm not like balling out spending money on you or whatever if you want to be with me you're gonna have to be with me on the basis of who I am Drewski is definitely a trick allegedly like he's tricking also he's balling out most guys that are balling out are tricking it's just like that's kind of what you do but all i'm saying is like if he wasn't you would probably still be in a relationship with him because of the fact that then you're fucking drewski's girlfriend and there's like a lot of social clout a lot of guys that have caught like to keep like like to keep their relationships private i feel like also like and that's what you're basically paying that's what that's okay you're working for free by dating him because you get the status of being his girlfriend now if he was keeping you secret too you probably get sick of that pretty quick yeah for sure but i feel like that's what guys prefer so they almost pay to like keep the discretion like you said it's like i really feel like men want more private lives you know it's like they don't like to be exposed they don't like to have their business because they have a wife or a girlfriend or something or yeah they just don't want the the backlash of like with like a hoe you know it's like they just you're putting yourself in the hoe box and not me i'm talking about in general how people would view you what do you mean like my well i mean I mean, you know, like you do OnlyFans.
1:01:20So it's like, to me, that doesn't make you a hoe, but to probably the average person, they're going to look at you as different, right? Probably. Because like me and my girl have talked about this. There's never been a rich, famous celebrity, athlete, actor, et cetera, who has wifed up a porn star. It's just never happened. It's never happened. And that's why Drewski taking Skybury to the basketball game and sitting courtside, that's why that was so shocking to people and she doesn't even do porn currently she hasn't done porn in like two three years or whatever so neither do i so i'm like i want to put myself in the whole category because i'm like i'm not actively like doing ho shit but to like real joints like dudes who are really like a big deal you're a multi-millionaire you're world famous etc a girl who just has only fans though it's like i feel like but just doing only fans like your vagina's on the internet like even that like an nba guy yeah nba guy is not dating a girl with OnlyFans publicly if she's showing her vagina yeah they'll fuck you for sure but they're not like it just and I'm not saying that they shouldn't I think they actually should I think the world should be more open-minded about that yeah but it doesn't happen it doesn't happen yeah I feel like I I would have to agree I feel like men like to have their their kinks and shit like in the closet like they don't like to like okay but I'll give you an example there's a girl that know named melissa stratton and she's a porn star and she's hot and at one point i'm looking at her story and i see that she's with sean evans who's the host of hot uh what's it called hot ones yeah the bald guy you know i'm talking about yeah and they're like in the section at the club and they're taking photos together and it kind of looks like a fan photo where like she's just taking a photo but then it also kind of looks like he's got his arm around her in such a way that like kind of makes it look like they got something going on sure but so then it comes out like in the news like oh they're dating and i'm like holy fuck i can't believe it because this is like the most famous non-porn dude i've ever seen dating a porn star or whatever and i think it took like 24 hours before he ended the relationship with her once it became viral really yeah and he unfollowed me because i said congratulations she's got fire so that's insane i was not familiar with this i didn't know you i didn't know they were actually dating yeah i didn't know they were actually dating either i didn't even know this was a relationship this was like a couple years ago yeah but all i'm saying is like all it took was this shit going viral that he was in a relationship with her just like shut it down for him to basically be like well i can't do this he got cold feet yeah yeah and i kind of so what made you like cuff a porn star i'm a savage okay so you got that dog in you yeah i'm just like so i met my girl and we started on the on facetime with like her friends like right away and then like pretty quickly like i'm banging her for her only fans and stuff like that like she didn't even have to ask i just started doing it and like pretty soon we're doing like real porn i was just always like i don't know i feel like some people are good with that some people aren't you know it's like some people are with that but i feel like most guys that are in like the public eye they just don't want the but i'm the i'm the kind of guy who like at the first suggestion of it i was on only fans which if you really think about that there's like almost no guy is gonna do that right like i was that that does make you a savage i was all about it i was like super hyped on it yeah really yeah even before my wife i was like i would post like crazy shit with girls on snapchat and this was before you get an adrenaline rush like you just like the thrill of it like yeah i just like people hitting me up about it i think i always been an exhibitionist yeah yeah so i was kind of built for it i think but average guy not so much i guess not average because you're saying like this is not very typical yeah well as i'm saying like the average guy is just not really gonna but we're talking about like not average guys talking about guys that are like of some yeah that's what i'm saying not just like not average guys but even average guys even above average guys really almost every guy but if a guy's broke he'll date a porn star but then usually they'll like start to get over it yeah i could never be like the trick in the relationship like that just would never make sense to me well little weird part about it with me and my wife is that at some point she's gonna like not be doing as much porn or probably stop shooting with other guys at some point and then i'm probably gonna keep shooting with other girls yeah and i don't know like she doesn't care currently but i wonder how that will affect her down the road like if she'll actually start to care at some point right it's like you became the full porn star yeah which is kind of weird that was never part of the plan right the tables turned but it's like why would we stop doing a business that makes like a legitimate amount of money yeah just i mean she she says it herself that she doesn't get jealous at all yeah she doesn't care at all which is almost like you're supposed to care a little bit babe do you get jealous i don't know not really at this point yeah because it's like it's locked in yeah you're in too deep now it's like why would you get jealous of something that like you know is solidified yeah kind of what uh so has the way guys react to you has it changed since the jerky show i wouldn't say it's changed like it's not just guys i'd say like in general like it's a little bit more like exposure that i've been getting like it's more people that are recognizing me from the show that has definitely like been new because that's not like my new my new thing it's like you have a whole new identity because you had a normal name and now you have a name that's almost like yeah it's like exactly jumbotron shit popping it's like yeah when i tried to find stuff of you on youtube it is you were trying to find stuff from me you were trying to do your research anybody i interview i gotta look them up i feel like you haven't asked anything that's like giving me that you did your research i didn't really find anything so like but the drake jumbotron shit song that was pretty much the main thing yeah jumbotron shit pop in which is actually produced by filthy full circle world's color exactly we just went from your name to the jersey just like that exactly that's insane no but uh so what are your uh plans going forward do you see yourself doing more reality tv type shit i could see myself doing like more maybe not maybe reality TV but like not on that like scale it was a little bit like disorganized for me I mean even compared to like real reality shows on TV that's probably like one of the biggest ones because I mean 10 million views per episode is pretty crazy it is crazy I'm pretty sure I can't really imagine how many viewers Love Island gets but it might not be like too far away from that even though I know it's gigantic do you watch love island i've never seen it i like it i've never seen it but i'm like so okay so you don't even know what the fucking nub was somehow but they made their own love island okay and i'm very invested in this right now because this is what you're into so you like reality tv like you like to you know i'm more like curious about the youtuber side of it because it just feels a little closer to home yeah yeah so would you ever do something like that like you we made we did a reality show really it was to find the guy that was going to do the first guy guy girl threesome with me and my wife wow that was our hook that's fire it did pretty good too i got like a million views an episode but it was weird because youtube like hit it like you can't search for it wow probably because it's like what maybe like like right from when it was coming out you just couldn't really search for it and i don't really understand why and i never was able to figure that out and i want to do it again but also like we don't really have two do you think there's gonna be a season three of could have been low uh probably if i was him i would keep doing it you think so i mean yeah that was our problem though is that we did that and then it's kind of like well what's the next one gonna be right i feel like it was way more like intense this time like i watched season one and i had a little bit of like you know expectation but then i was like when i got there i was like this is seems way like way more fighting than i really anticipated.
1:09:44That's what moves the needle I guess. It just sucks that you can't watch it with the fighting. They blur it. What is that? Because YouTube, kind of like what you were saying, they just kind of hide. They have to make it safe. They could put it on members where you pay five bucks a month or whatever and then not edit it. They probably could. There's so much footage that has been lost. Okay, but this is what happened to the Nuck Boys who again, you don't know who they are, but they made their own show of Love Island including with like love island logos and shit like that they made their own version and i'm pretty sure that love island filed copyright strikes got all of their tiktoks deleted got the youtube video deleted and they only they dropped one i think it was left for like a week or two that got taken down and they know they still haven't dropped episode two okay so it's over like it's just it's done they might have spent like if i'm gonna guess i'll say that they probably spent like at least like half a million dollars filming that shit what i mean for it to just flop well flop slash like got taken down and now they maybe can't post the rest of it that's that's crazy yeah the copyright shit i mean yeah i wouldn't have really expected that but also i wouldn't have used their logo that's when you're a good lawyer like they need yeah but they probably do have good lawyers and they probably still are fucked i don't know it's crazy that's that's crazy i feel for them but also i'm okay i'm kind of relieved because when they were planning it at one point they hit us up me and my wife and they were like yo wanted you to come on yes yeah and then they like a couple weeks later i was like yo what's happening with that and they're like oh we're kind of like they don't have any couples on it so like i guess that's probably like why like a special guest though like you could have like star yeah and i was already like probably not gonna do it just because i didn't want to like take a week off to go film somebody else's reality show but the fact that it got taken down i'm just so like pew because i could have gone out there spent my own money to be out there film somebody else's reality show and then have it never come out yeah that would have been horrible well i think we're like pretty much done anyway pretty much done yeah so what do you want to tell the world what i want to tell the world um jumbo shit tron poppin um shit tron jumbo shit tron you just stuck shit in the middle of jumbo shit tron poppin for sure jumbo tron shit poppin and uh what's your instagram for the guys who want to send their applications sage the sweetest there it is yeah and what are you looking for what do they need to say in the dms if they want to win you over i don't know they need to get creative f3 i was looking for a snack you don't know about that one i don't know about that the game you know the rapper the game yeah he was dm and tons of girls f3 and then he's been in my DMs oh well was he trying to sell you a feature or is he just hollering I think he was just hollering nice yeah I respect the horniness but uh he would say f3 and they'd say what and then he'd say one like no then he would say oh I thought this was a vending machine I was looking for a snack okay that's not bad right that's definitely that's just like corny I mean you can't use the same line on five million different girls and then not expect to get exposed for it at some point but as a standalone line I think it's pretty good because most rappers are sending hard eyes just hard eyes or just some bullshit I like to go organically it's like I don't like the DMing yeah I'm just like I'm past that and that's the problem with me with all these random hoes is that I I feel like my level of conversation is like a little advanced for them and then they get kind of weirded out they don't want a guy that's gonna be like talking their ear off about what's going on in the world why would you be looking for hoes I'm just like well like if I was if you were hypothetically And I am trying to find hoes, but not to like wipe up.
1:13:31I'm just trying to get them to shoot porn with us. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So they think that you think that you're too advanced to like find some just like regular hoes. I feel like myself personally. Are you like shooting your shot actively? No. Or are you just like. I'm just saying when I find myself hanging out with random retarded hoes, I oftentimes find myself like starting conversations that then I just feel like they're like kind of staring at me like. Yeah. You feel like that? Yeah. Not with you. Not with me. No, but with some girls. Okay. If you want to do porn, let me know though. I could be into it.
1:14:07Oh yeah? Yeah. Change your whole plan? I could be into it. Do a little porn career and then get into the college world? Yeah, I'm ready to just be back in school. Just do porn too. Bella Danger did it. Exactly. You can do both. You can do both. She is the only person I know who really successfully went back to college once she was already like internet famous for something else. So, props to her. Okay, Jumbotron, appreciate you. Jumbotron. Very nice meeting you. So nice to meet you, Adam. Tap in. No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Check us out on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram. Like, comment, and subscribe.
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