Keefe D Guilty! Vonnie tells on Durk, Fake 49ers Player Scams Women & More

2 Sep 2026 · 3 h 31 min · 82 chapters

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In short

Topic The hosts debate why high-profile criminals/figures “tell on themselves” or chase attention after losing status, using Keefe D as the main example. They connect this to broader ideas about pride, narcissism/clout-chasing, and how being publicly accessible can affect “mystique.” They also discuss Big Meech/BMF’s legacy and compare it to Keefe D’s media/storytelling trajectory. The episode further shifts into a long discussion of Tupac’s work ethic and circumstances around his death, plus general street-pride/security failures in violent incidents.

Guest backgrounds No clear guest list is provided in the transcript. The main speakers include recurring hosts/regulars: Spody (referred to as “Spody on 40 Crip”), Munchie, Rios, Moose, and Ari Moses. Smokey Luther King appears briefly as a participant. Names like “Rob Markman” and “Poetic Flacco” are mentioned as references, not as guests.

Key claims Keefe D is framed as a “clout and money” chaser who sold/marketed his own worst crimes (books/interviews), effectively incriminating himself; the “only evidence against you is you” theme is repeated. Big Meech is argued to be a “living legend” with a stronger, more marketable storyline than Keefe D, and his mystique is less harmed because he doesn’t overexpose himself. Public interviews can reduce mystique for some figures, but for others it can increase demand (people want to hear stories directly from the person). Pride is presented as a common cause of violent escalation; walking away is hard due to street conditioning and reputation. Tupac’s artistry/work ethic at age 25 is emphasized, and the episode argues that his environment and loyalty dynamics shaped his choices.

Notable examples

Keefe D

Vlad interview, autobiographies/books, “fake confession” framing, and the idea that his defense tried to claim he lied about himself.

Big Meech/BMF

the BMF show/rights, sponsorship/industry interest after release, and the idea that 50 Cent’s involvement reduced momentum.

Other “fall from grace” examples

Spudderlo (G-Unit), Tania (YG “Mama We Made It”), and “Spotted Load”/other celebrity-adjacent figures.

Tupac

references to “Dear Mama,” “Brenda’s Got a Baby,” Juice roles, and the age/work output comparison to Biggie.

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Discussion on Celebrity Downfalls

0:45 to 2:37

The hosts discuss the consequences of celebrities sharing incriminating stories and the nature of clout chasing.

“I know he been, you know what I'm saying?”

The Thirst for Money and Attention

2:37 to 4:31

Exploration of how individuals chase money and fame after losing it all, using examples from the hip-hop world.

“So does that breed like a familiarity with having attention on you?”

Clout Chasing and Narcissism

4:31 to 6:28

A deep dive into the psychological aspects of clout chasing and the behaviors that lead people to compromise themselves.

“God give me a husta from the 55th Street.”

Big Meek and Lessons from Fame

6:28 to 8:40

Discussion around Big Meek's past fame and the potential consequences of pursuing clout after losing status.

“It's like he's riding the wave until that wave crashes, and then find another one, which actually takes another kind of skill also to find another fucking wave.”

Comparing Keefe D and Big Meek

8:40 to 14:01

The hosts compare the situations of Keefe D and Big Meek, discussing their respective paths and public perceptions.

“To where he looking thirsty like the three examples we done gave.”

Big Meech's Financial Status

14:01 to 16:52

Discussion on Big Meech's potential wealth and current financial situation.

“But I'm saying, as of right now, he ain't got what you think right now, right now.”

The Impact of Public Persona

16:53 to 19:48

Exploration of how public visibility affects perceptions of figures like Big Meech and Jay Prince.

“Hey, wait, you know how they say never meet your hero or whatever?”

Mystique vs. Accessibility

19:49 to 22:48

Debate on the balance between maintaining mystique and being accessible in the media.

“Like you're saying, it waters down the brand.”

Keefe D and His Legacy

22:49 to 26:06

Analysis of Keefe D's motivations and the implications of his actions related to Tupac.

“It just makes you into a different thing.”

Tupac's Influence and Legacy

26:07 to 28:00

Reflection on Tupac's remarkable career and the impact of his untimely death.

“He took out Pop, one of the greatest to ever do it.”
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Tupac's Legacy and Influence

28:00 to 29:10

Explore Tupac's influence on music and culture and how he is compared to Biggie.

“Jay-Z outlived him and went on to do more.”

Understanding Tupac's Choices

29:10 to 30:40

Discuss Tupac's decision-making and the pressures he faced from his environment.

“younger than 24 he wrote that shit under 20 yeah he got a number one album in prison bro Like, Platinum Mama in prison.”

The Impact of Environment on Choices

30:40 to 33:10

Analyze how Tupac's upbringing influenced his actions and choices.

“But I think the people that was with him, him being the bad, him being the artist, y 'all should have snatched him up like ASAP, like, oh, no, stand down because they ain't really.”

Pride and Its Consequences

33:10 to 35:00

Examine the role of pride in street culture and how it affects decision-making.

“And you just get caught up in the fucking moment.”

Comparisons with Other Artists

35:00 to 37:10

Compare Tupac's situation with that of other artists and the role of security.

“I'm going to give y 'all a good comparison.”

The Dangers of Street Pride

37:10 to 39:20

Delve into how pride influences behavior and the distinction between street and civilian life.

“or whatever your claim is, trying to redeem that.”

Ethical Codes and Civilians

39:20 to 41:30

Discuss the ethical codes that govern behavior in both street and civilian contexts.

“If it was a situation right here, right now, and you just walked away from it, you know what I'm saying?”

Audience Interaction and Donations

41:30 to 42:00

Engage with audience comments and donations, highlighting community reactions.

“But also, that's the environment that you came up your whole life.”

Civilians and Community Responsibility

42:00 to 44:39

Discussion on the role of civilians in crime prevention and community involvement.

“That is like, nigga, they go mind their business and close their door.”

Debate on YB and Dirk's Legal Situations

44:40 to 46:19

Exploration of the rivalry between YB and Dirk in light of their legal issues.

“Flame wasn't sat down next to Brick to do no bullshit.”

Doughboy vs. Ricky: The Pot-Off Debate

46:20 to 47:46

Review of the pot-off debate between Doughboy and Ricky, analyzing their performances.

“though hey no no look look i gotta give me a membership too i ain't i ain't gonna look the Chad absolutely hates Ricky, right?”

Criteria and Performance in Debates

47:47 to 51:19

Discussion on the criteria for judging debates and the importance of performance.

“Doughboy was starting on a position and ending with another position every time.”

Future Pot-Off Challenges

51:20 to 56:00

Plans for future pot-off challenges and setting criteria for competition.

“When I hear debate, I'm more like substance.”

Debate on the Pot Off Results

56:00 to 1:00:00

The hosts discuss the recent pot off between Doughboy and Ricky, analyzing who performed better.

“It was 50-50, and then Doughboy won by 1%.”

Entertainment vs. Facts in Podcasting

1:00:00 to 1:08:20

The conversation shifts to the balance between entertainment and factual accuracy in podcasting, with references to different styles of hosts.

“It just depends on what I'm trying to watch for.”

Future of the Pot Off and Viewer Engagement

1:08:20 to 1:10:02

The hosts brainstorm ideas for improving future pot offs and discuss engaging the audience better.

“Hey, we gonna win it on the part-off, and then we gonna set it up.”

Poll and Chat Reactions

1:10:02 to 1:11:52

The hosts discuss reactions from the chat and their polls regarding the ongoing debates.

“Even the tiebreaker, you know exactly where the chat gonna go though.”

Debate Dynamics

1:11:52 to 1:14:08

The hosts analyze the recent debate performances, focusing on biases and entertainment value.

“All these red dots and these B teams and all that.”

Judging Criteria Discussion

1:14:08 to 1:16:01

Hosts discuss the criteria for judging and the implications of biases in future debates.

“Even though they not relevant with the rap shit, Lil Dicky do this, Yachty with the Nautica.”

Future Debate Formats

1:16:01 to 1:18:10

Ideas are proposed for structuring future debates to ensure fairness and engagement.

“When the Republicans and Democrats, they got the popular vote and the other one?”

Wrap-Up and Closing Thoughts

1:18:10 to 1:24:00

The hosts conclude the discussion, reflecting on the debates and teasing upcoming content.

“This nigga get up here and be long winded and pop.”

Pre-Pot-Off Banter

1:24:00 to 1:26:20

The hosts engage in light-hearted banter before the main topics.

“Yeah, he going to save the bullets for the pot off.”

Doughboy's Performance Discussion

1:26:20 to 1:28:50

The team discusses Doughboy's performance and related podcast dynamics.

“I think he's talking meat shit, probably BMF shit.”

Introduction to the 49ers Scammer Story

1:28:50 to 1:31:20

The hosts transition to discussing the 49ers player scam story.

“Let me, I can send that other one, though, for sure, out the group chat.”

Details of the Scam

1:31:20 to 1:36:20

In-depth explanation of the fake 49ers player's fraudulent activities.

The Double Standard in Scams

1:36:20 to 1:37:30

A discussion on the double standards in scams between genders.

“My whole thing about, I mean, it's not right, but what's the difference between him and women selling men a dream and none of them never go to jail for that.”

Comparing Scams in Relationships

1:37:30 to 1:38:00

The hosts compare the fake player's actions to common relationship scams.

“They'll say invest in my boobs, invest in my backside or whatever the case is, or get these headshot photos.”

Debating Lies vs. Scams

1:38:00 to 1:47:30

Explore the distinction between lies and scams in personal relationships.

“Then when they go silver, try to get up and suit, they're like, oh, it was a gift.”

The 49ers Scam Incident

1:47:30 to 1:52:00

Discussion around a fake 49ers player and implications of his actions.

“Hey, man, you're going to lose bitches, bro.”

Discussion on Robbery and Misunderstandings

1:52:00 to 1:53:19

The hosts debate the nuances of robbery and personal experiences.

“But then I later called a gun cage, and I had to run a concurrent to go to the pen.”

Blueface's Recent Troubles

1:53:20 to 1:54:49

Exploration of Blueface's current situation and public perception.

“It was one of those situations on cops where the bitch tried to buy crack and the dude ran off with her money.”

Scams and Relationships

1:54:50 to 1:55:51

Discussion on the dynamics of scamming in relationships and societal expectations.

“and don't after all the money she done sent to him?”

Lil Durk's Legal Troubles and OTF Vonnie's Testimony

1:55:52 to 1:59:46

Analysis of Lil Durk's legal issues and a detailed discussion on OTF Vonnie's testimony.

“There was one under one of them when he was talking about.”

Motives in Violence: Durk vs. Vonnie

1:59:47 to 2:01:55

Debate on who had more motivation for retribution in a violent context.

“Man, I'm going to say something controversial right now.”

Impact of King Von on Lil Durk's Career

2:01:56 to 2:04:34

A heated discussion on the influence of King Von on Lil Durk's rise in the music industry.

“Did Vaughn take him to another level street credit-wise?”

Durk's Resurgence and Career Trajectory

2:04:35 to 2:06:00

A conversation about Lil Durk's career trajectory and how it relates to King Von.

“When Tiger, niggas wasn't even, when Tiger, he got into a Tiger and game, killed him.”

Debating Durk and Von's Impact

2:06:00 to 2:10:40

The hosts discuss the relationship between Lil Durk's rise and King Von's influence on his career.

“Niggas was not fucking with Dirk on the West Coast as a whole until Vaughn got out.”

King Von's Street Credibility

2:10:40 to 2:12:30

They analyze how King Von's reputation contributed to Lil Durk's success and street credibility.

“His turning point was before Vaughn came home.”

Audience Reactions and Polls

2:12:30 to 2:15:40

The hosts review audience comments and opinions regarding the influence of King Von on Lil Durk's career.

“King Von had a movement that he hit the streets with.”

Historical Context of Drill Music

2:15:40 to 2:18:20

A discussion on the evolution of drill music and its cultural significance, especially in relation to King Von.

“Bro, let's not call Spody Face an idiot, bro.”

Comparing Historical Figures

2:18:20 to 2:20:00

The hosts compare historical figures in rap and their influences, drawing parallels with modern artists.

“just having a grand all the time watching the trial.”

Discussing Von and Dirk's Influence on Each Other

2:20:00 to 2:21:00

Explore the impact of King Von's style on Dirk's music post-incarceration.

“It's some percentage, you just don't want to put a number on it.”

Analyzing Podcast Dynamics and Guest Influence

2:21:00 to 2:22:30

A look at how guest presence affects podcast viewership and engagement.

“Poetic Flacco only did numbers on Munchie was sitting next to him.”

Debating King Von's Musical Timeline and Achievements

2:22:30 to 2:26:00

A detailed discussion on King Von's music timeline and his impact on the industry.

“They said, yeah, Vaughn came out around 2018.”

Commentary on Street Credibility and Gang Loyalty

2:26:00 to 2:29:40

Examining loyalty among artists and their responses to gang affiliations.

“Everybody talking about, you know what I'm saying, the people snitching in Lil' Dirt Case and all that, I'm going to say it right here.”

The Consequences of Snitching in Hip-Hop Culture

2:29:40 to 2:34:00

A discussion on the implications of snitching and loyalty in hip-hop.

“I'm saying it because that's how I used it.”

Street Credibility and Snitching

2:34:00 to 2:35:20

Discussing the expectations of street credibility and the implications of snitching.

“hey look sir if that's what we supposed to do if the niggas got 10 bodies you got 10 bodies you don't know how this count Hey, look, sir.”

Consequences of Gang Affiliations

2:35:20 to 2:36:40

Exploring the consequences and complexities of gang affiliations and loyalty.

“No, no, no, I ain't diskepopulated, because I'm about to use Big - Because Big U is like - Yeah, that's what he doing.”

The Pressure of Street Life

2:36:40 to 2:38:20

Discussing the pressures and realities faced by individuals in the street life and gang culture.

“And nigga, if you got an issue with that, take it on with fucking Lil Baby.”

Understanding Different Standards

2:38:20 to 2:39:30

Examining the varying standards individuals hold within gang culture and the implications of dropping flags.

“But if you feel like you can't trust him or you feel like it ain't in your heart no more because of...”

Impact of Collaborations in Rap

2:39:30 to 2:42:00

Analyzing the impact of collaborations in the rap industry and the perception of artists.

“So how you feel about the standout here?”

The Role of Record Labels

2:42:00 to 2:43:20

Discussing the role of record labels in shaping an artist's career and their national recognition.

“Bro, he became somebody when he spit on Flocka.”

Bloods vs. Crips in Rap

2:43:20 to 2:48:01

Debating the representation and success of Bloods and Crips in the rap industry.

“And Tartan music years before King Von Rose to fame.”

Discussion on Rap Rivalries and Legends

2:48:01 to 2:50:30

Explore the dynamics of rap rivalries, focusing on Crips vs. Bloods and notable artists.

“Listen, to be honest, I mean, shout out to Mozzie and Rock, everybody else out of that.”

Current Era Artists and Their Impact

2:50:31 to 2:52:19

A look at current artists in the scene, comparing their talents and contributions.

“Because just the people they're naming, if you're including game and shit, then that's like 2004, 2005.”

Nipsey Hussle's Legacy and Influence

2:52:20 to 2:54:16

Discussion on Nipsey Hussle's influence in the rap community and his legacy.

“We don't count because we talking about West Coast, L.A.”

Battle Rap and Its Key Figures

2:54:17 to 2:56:57

Examination of battle rap's significance and key figures like Gigi Gotti and Crooked I.

“And then K-Boy, that's my favorite crib, bro.”

Upcoming Rap Battles and Challenges

2:56:58 to 2:58:45

Announcement of upcoming rap battles, discussing the participants and stakes involved.

“I was saying this for reference so they can go look back at it.”

Engaging in Rap Rivalries

2:58:46 to 3:02:01

Engagement in rap rivalries and discussions about artists' skills, setups for battles.

“Wait, I ain't gonna bully and do 40s against families because that's easy.”

Preparation for the Cypher

3:02:01 to 3:03:25

The group discusses the rules and members for an upcoming cypher battle.

“I'm like, no he let off off, I went to Atlanta, I'm like, damn I thought he was supposed to establish the rules.”

Community Unity Plans

3:03:26 to 3:05:14

Plans for a community event featuring rival groups are laid out.

“That mean you can't go get nobody from Centnilla, CPF.”

Debate Over Dirk's Impact

3:05:15 to 3:06:51

Discussion about Lil Durk's influence on the music scene and his collaborations.

“But, you know, I wouldn't insinuate anything.”

Swamp Stories Controversy

3:06:52 to 3:08:20

The group talks about the controversial actions of Swamp Stories during a recent trial.

“Since we on Dirk, go to the Swamp Stories, press who?”

Antagonism in the Culture

3:08:21 to 3:10:03

Discussion on the growing trend of antagonism within the hip-hop culture.

“We'll get to pay it after like this, take that off bro, you gotta take that shit off, you gotta get it, you gotta take that off, we're on the line too.”

Confrontation and Mockery

3:10:04 to 3:11:56

Talk about a confrontation involving Trap Low Ross and the mockery of hip-hop culture.

“He was the one that we didn't know who he was, right?”

Rico Laws and Cultural Bias

3:11:57 to 3:14:07

Discussion about Rico laws and perceived biases against specific communities.

“Yeah Yeah Cause he from the Bay and he live in Moran.”

Comparison of Gangs and Law Enforcement

3:14:08 to 3:15:36

The hosts compare treatment of gang-related events to biker gang gatherings by law enforcement.

“A lot of this stuff is government funding, and they fundraise on a government dollar, and nobody talks about it.”

Biker Gangs vs. Community Events

3:16:00 to 3:18:07

Discussion on the double standards in policing community events versus biker gatherings.

“They'll literally go to the park where ain't nobody, They just barbecuing and having fun and ain't doing nothing and trying to come set it down because it's too many.”

Racism and Law Enforcement

3:18:08 to 3:20:18

Exploration of the relationship between racism and law enforcement practices in the community.

“It was all kind of shit that goes on, and it's like, this is what they show you.”

Experiences of Racial Profiling

3:20:19 to 3:22:36

Personal anecdotes about racial profiling and the disparities faced by different communities.

“And he'll see what we go through and he'll feel differently.”

Debate Dynamics

3:22:37 to 3:25:29

Light-hearted debate about pride and competition among the hosts, leading to a playful rivalry.

“No, no, I'm talking about spanking down.”

Upcoming Competitions

3:25:30 to 3:27:57

Announcement and discussion of upcoming challenges and debates among the hosts.

“and make sure we got some fire topics for sure.”
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0:02All right, we live. We live, we live. We in the building. What up, everybody? What's happening? It's the Tuesday show. It's the Tuesday show. We got boosted in the building. What's happening? What's cracking with y 'all, man? How's it going? Or should I say, you know what I'm saying? Since it's the hood day, Eve, what's cracking with y 'all, man? What's good? Oh, yeah. I already made it clear. I wasn't going to come back on camera as far as no jumper go. Gripping on the bottle by the neck. But tomorrow, you know, it's a celebration. It's my community day. You know what I'm saying? But I'm on my best behavior.

0:36All right. He about to turn up. Yeah, yeah. I don't know about best behavior. I don't know about that one, man. I'm on my best behavior. That's three minutes in. He on his best behavior. Jake, he been 30. Yeah, half the bottle already gone. I know he been, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, no, but shit. Half the day gone. Shit good, man. It's a lot going on right now, man. Motherfuckers telling on theyself. motherfuckers going to jail for their interviews and books that they done wrote. Yeah. Don't write no book about the crime you committed. Thanks. Hey, but that's not understanding the assignment.

1:06That's the, what they say, no, there's no excuse. Ignorance is not an excuse. Ignorance is not an excuse for the law or whatever. Yeah. And he just didn't really understand the difference between a proffer and unity. and then I think it was some particular in that proper agreement. He didn't stick to it. Went outside that. And then I look at the dude, Greg Cady, that retired and wrote a book. So he probably thinking he could do the same thing also. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like he wrote a book. But, you know, hey, it didn't work out. But is that like a thirst level, like a clout level? Like, damn, you see somebody else getting recognition or getting attention off of something, and you're like, shit, I got something to do with that.

1:53I need to be getting that. It's like a sickness. You got to think. KVD came from being a kingpin. He had a lot, a lot of bread. And he went from that to being just a regular Joe again. So I could bet he was thirsty for money. You know what I'm saying? He's thirsty for money. You want to be back on top. Bro, I don't know if you can find that clip. That's funny. Come on, brother love.

2:22Brother, man, life was good before I met you. Hey, that's just funny. And you could tell he was sincere. Yeah. Like, what? Like, I met you. I went back. Life was, like, what? He was a kingpin. He was a kingpin. So does that breed like a familiarity with having attention on you? And it's like, God damn, I've been down a long time. I need that. To your own detriment. You want to be back on top and with attention and clout so bad that you talk about the worst crime or whatever crime you committed that's going to put you away. Or even the respect factor type of thing as being a Kingpin. I don't think it was the clout thing.

3:02I think it was the money thing. It was a money grab. You know what I'm saying? But with that type of stuff, the more clout you get, you know, when you're writing that type of book and stuff, the more money you're probably going to make. So, you know, that's why he went to the Vlad interview that did it up and all that shit. So, yeah, this is definitely probably, what, the worst case of, like, telling yourself, you know what I'm saying, with how long, how much time has gone past and he never got caught up and then he came out and kind of snitched on himself. The only evidence against you is you.

3:30Is you. Yeah, that didn't really need no witness other than his books. The defense was him trying to prove he was lying on himself. Yeah. The defense is like he was not telling the truth. He was lying on himself for clout, for money, and this and that. He wasn't really being honest. Yeah. Well, Ari Moses, you're one of the ones up here with a very extensive vocabulary, right? Yeah. And I know it got to be a name for this because people come to mind when you have fame and it get taken away. You have money, it get taken away. Yeah. And you just thirsty to get back to it because, like, when I think of that, I think of Spotted Load.

4:14He had the G-Unit thing going on. and it went away. Yeah, they have that moment, and they've been chasing it ever since. And now he's a cloud monster. We got it with Tania. Tania, you know, she had the, Mama, we made it at the song YG. Oh, okay, yeah. You know, she's been chasing it ever since. But she got the one with Krip Mac. God give me a husta from the 55th Street. Why did they ruin that girl's song? Who sing the original song? Yeah, I forget what that girl's name is. But you can't even monetize on that. They use the money. But then you got Keefe D. Bro, this dude was a kingpin. He had anything he wanted.

4:53Cars and the most expensive seats at the Tyson fight and all that. You use a regular joke again. So is it a word for that when somebody got it all, lose it all, they chasing it at all expense? I don't know. I don't know a specific word, but I'm probably sure there is one. But if not, we need to coin some type of word because I think with the internet age that we're in, people literally will tell on themselves for clout now. I think it's too new of a thing right now to be like, we got to coin a term, I think, at No Jumper for this, this phenomenon. Wanting to be back on the throne. You know what I mean?

5:28It's like Game of Thrones, like whatever I got to do to get back on the throne. But it's like I looked it up in the DSM, and it's like a partial personality disorder. Okay. And like narcissistic personality disorder, when you want attention so bad that you'll do negative things or do stupid shit just for people to pay attention to you. You know what I mean? Like there's no better definition than doing some stupid shit to get your name and going on Vlad, going on this. They use your interview. They use your book. They use everything you did. This is like a snapshot of what not to do. Do you think our boy Adam has a little touch of that?

6:03Because sometimes he might do some outlandish things to keep the brand running. Narcissism? Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? Well, maybe not narcissism, as in does have some of that clout shit, but it's not even necessarily for him. It's for his brand. You know what I mean? He'll do anything to keep shit going, and that's changing faces, pivoting, going to this, going from hip-hop to gang to this, to this. And now this is this phase. It's like he's riding the wave until that wave crashes, and then find another one, which actually takes another kind of skill also to find another fucking wave.

6:37Facts, yeah, because it's respectable when it's like, you know, Adam just seems like he's just moving and shaking when it's successful. But when people are, like, failing and sending themselves to prison over it, then it's like, oh, you did all this, and look where it got you, my boy. All that money from the book and all that shit, was it worth it? No. Hell nah. Hell nah. Did you spend the rest of your life in there? Smokey Luther King in the building, man. What's good with you? How you doing, man? Everything good?

7:05To get you up to speed, I gave an example on three people that, you know, they had it. I ain't going to say had it all with the monetary side of things. But one did, which is Keefe D. You had two people, you know, they had the celebrity status. And I think since they lost it, they be real thirsty to get it back. And I was like, damn, is it a word for that? where you losing and you just thirsty to get it back. I ain't talking about trying to get your bread back and bounce back. I'm talking about you just thirsty to, you know what I'm saying? Clout. It's like the ultimate clout chase move type shit.

7:43I don't know if it's fear of missing out, but it's definitely like, damn, homie, high school used to be the man, homie. You know what I mean? What happened to you? What happened to you? It's like once you've been on top, you know what that shit, like that's like once a dog, damn, I might not say that. once an animal tastes blood right yeah they get a taste for blood and that's just who they that's what they become and that's what you become used to and you're gonna always once a bear eats a man or whatever they now man eaters like and once you touch the top and you on that throne it's it's always got to be a feeling of like fuck i was up there look at me down here looking up i want to be looking down at people it's an ego thing it's a narcissistic shit and it's like damn why not get your people on.

8:27Why you gotta just... All right, well, let me ask you a question. I was talking about people falling from grace and scratching to get back. You think Big Meek should ever get to that point? To where he was at? No. No, no, no. Not to where he was at. Oh, like where he's cloud chasing. To where he looking thirsty like the three examples we done gave. Because this dude... Because, you know, he had it all. And, you know, he was doing things for monetary gain. And now he about to spend the rest of his life in jail. KD. I don't... I don't think the two is the same because me personally, I don't think Keefe D was ever at the top.

9:03I think he's so thirsty to be involved and associated with something that went down in history that you can never forget about. I don't necessarily – I know he was a part of that situation, you know what I'm saying, and around that, but I don't think he was the dude necessarily at the top versus Meech. He was a nigga, and I don't think he – like he a living legend. No, no, no, no. When it comes to Meech, he dealt different qualities. He was far past Keefe D, but Keefe D was still in the kingpin realm. How you figure? At some point? Yeah, no, no, no, no. Keefe D was getting to it at one point. You know what I'm saying?

9:42Yeah, but they skills. They skills. No, no, no, no. Skills is way different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. But I was comparing, like, the three people that fell from grace was very thirsty to get back. Two looking stupid to this day, and one, now he's in prison. but I'm saying you think who's the other two cause I missed it who's the other two you talking about okay I'll get an example you know Tania had the YG song yeah and she had that that notoriety at the time mama we made it yeah yeah and then we got just read up one we got Spudderlo you know what I'm saying he was G-Unit and then and he fell from grace you know what I'm saying you got the Blulu for Day right but I used them too because they do cloud shit they They trying to get people attention in any kind of way to get back to where they was.

10:29And then, and Keefe, the example, he had all the bread. He had everything. But, you know, he was so thirsty, man. Shit. He about to sell this bunk-ass confession and look where it landed him. But I'm saying, because y 'all see Big Mech ever been in a situation. Well, he did the shit with Rick Ross, right? And fucked his son, like his son's shit up over a picture. Over a picture. Yeah, 50 wasn't fucking with it. When Big Meats got out, I for sure would have thought that he would have been on. He is on, though. Is he? But not as on as we, like, if he would have maybe not took that picture. Because look, when he came out, wasn't he asking for people to show up at his concert?

11:10And because he was having all those people, they dropped out the concert that he was trying to throw. Because they was putting those allegations on him and shit. So me personally, I feel like Meats is a living legend. And I feel like that's universal. I mean, he's still rich. He still got sponsorships. No, he's not rich at this moment. No, he's definitely rich, bro. He's definitely rich. That was all his rights. BMF, he got the rights to all that. Even with his son, he put his son in that position. They couldn't have did that without him. They definitely got paid, bro. To me, I'm going to tell you, my personal opinion, they have paid.

11:40I know the BMF movie is on the way. They got a lot of stuff. People, honestly, I think without 50, he could have been in a better position with 50 on his side, no doubt. But without 50, to me, them dudes has a legendary story. And I feel like even to like, I was listening, they trying to put him in GTAs and all type of youths. They name him into likeness on a whole lot of stuff. And now that he's out of jail, I think that sky's the limit for him versus, because you got to understand, people just want to be around Meech because he's actually a living legend. Despite the allegations because Rick Ross had the same allegations and it's a lot of people that don't fuck with Freeway Rick.

12:19I'm talking about the real Rick Ross. But versus Meats, Meats has the same allegations. But you see people that surround Meats that still, like he's still got people in the industry that love Meats, bro. The allegations never really affected him. Who are you talking about, Meats or Rich? Meats. At the beginning of the day, when he first got out. Because remember all them rappers was on the bill, and then the allegations came out, and they were all like, oh, we good. Lil Baby dropped out. It was like fucking 10 artists that dropped out. So y 'all think that was the reason why they dropped out? Yeah.

12:49I think they made that clear, I think. He ain't the nigga he came home. The nigga he left being, he not that coming home. So it wasn't the hype around the 50 cent cosign and all that. And then he dropped out. Yeah, he ate the juice out of that shit. I think 50 took some of the hype out of that shit from when he did get released. Had it been fresh and the story is now about to be told the right way, he sold some of that away, or whoever sold some of that away to 50 Cent, took some of the momentum away from when he was released. Why you think so? They had like the number one show For a while I mean but that's what I'm saying They can restart People what I'm basically saying They have a story that people want to hear Keefe D don't have a story That people want to hear He been doing the same song the same story for 20 years You know how big BMF is And how many more stories that's untold You know what I'm saying to me In that lane it's like sky's the limit You know what I'm saying sky's the limit The QFD, I never put him on a pedestal.

13:50Not necessarily a pedestal, but had him in the upper echelons of people. I think he was like a hanger-oner. I'm not going to lie. He had his own bread, bro. That's what I'm saying. But the world was talking about Big Meech. The world was talking about Big Meech. Yeah. I'm not comparing them two by far. Hell no. No, no, no, no, no. But I see. I know Big Meech's potential. His storyline. But I'm saying, as of right now, he ain't got what you think right now, right now. But he got the potential. he a hustler so he don't know how to sell himself. So you don't think Big Mitch is a millionaire right now?

14:21No. Why not? They literally have the number one show, bro. You got to rebuild. He ain't not a millionaire off that show. Oh, yeah. I think his son is a millionaire just off itself. If he own his rights, how is he not a millionaire? He has to have some, bro. His son was like trying to take pictures and was begging other people for money. Hey, bro. Because when 50 dropped him for taking that picture with Rick Ross, He was thirsty. And he was saying, well, my dad is out of jail. I'm trying to get him on. I'm trying to do things for him because we ain't got it like that. And then the fact that 50 dropped him, he was like, damn, you dropped the cat when he was, like, telling you that he needed this shit.

14:59And now you put him in a worse situation. And y 'all know 50 sent cold, bloody. He don't give a fuck. He don't. What? Like, I don't say he robbed him, but he took a lot of the momentum away from that shit. But I think Spody does have a point that, like, what separates you from, like, the, you know, the people that you listed off, Munchie, is, like, they seem like they're. option list they out of options with Meech he can sell the story maybe you know HBO will come with the bag you know maybe Netflix will come with the best like it seems like you have to check all the boxes to reach the super Keefy D clout chasing level where it's like I fell from grace I'm out of money and I have no options to get money all right let's do anything about everything because he went to jail for it so so he not he not looking like you know I'm saying a bozo about to incriminate nothing or nobody.

15:43So where's like did he do like you know like people be having interviews that they be blowing up for and like they be the main people that they call him for like interviews. Did he have this interview run where it was like just being like He's starting to do his media thing now. It seemed like he's trying to get in the streaming bag. I mean he already in the streaming bag. Not only that you gotta understand all these books that he came out all these autobiographies not only that before he even got out they had the BMF wives and he had his I'm not saying that he got probably a hundred million or nothing like that.

16:12But you say he comfortable for sure. No, he ain't got no M, though. No, I'm not going to say for sure. I don't think he don't got no million, bro. He's got more upside. We for sure can say that. I would bet my money on it that he would have at least a million dollars rather than he don't have a million dollars because all this opportunity. You got people like G's and everybody. Even with Kick right now, he doing that. He probably did that already, these bookings and all that. Like I know he ain't just Taking a thousand dollars Ten thousand dollars To pull up somewhere Nah not a thousand Most definitely not But But But A million dollars For me change shit That's what I'm saying If you If you got a M And you buy a house In California After that you broke So He got a He got a mega mansion In Miami right now Even That's why he don't own it Even the rent on that Is crazy Yeah to afford it For sure Even the rental that crazy, they say they own it.

17:11He said he own it. I doubt it. Hey, wait, you know how they say never meet your hero or whatever? Because if you just... Like was his... Not saying his story was blown up off of fake shit, it was blown up off of real shit that he did that... Facts. That like when people get to see him on camera, you think it's lackluster? Like damn. No. Not who I thought it was or didn't. No. It's not camera comfortable as you would have thought he was. I think some of the general public probably feels that way because that's what almost a lot of people with the streaming shit is just like there's a lore behind just, you know, being like the face of this movement and not really speaking out.

17:49It's not really, you know, putting out all your business. And then with streaming, it's literally every minute detail of your life. They expect you to go from power or to do for power, like moving like that. Exactly. Even like Jay Prince, when he got on the Internet like a few years ago and he started, you know, kind of going back and forth with people, people started being like, you know, he had this, you know, aura. about him like this you know this whole darkness you know he's controlling all the texas and shit and then people like you know say maybe he's just like human just like me and you you know i'm saying and it does make people think differently about him when you put yourself out there too well that's how i go anytime you hop on the internet you gotta lose that mistake that that's just how it is like you gotta lose it i think i think y 'all i think y 'all right but about certain people but i think like a lot of these people a lot of these they don't notice they don't know the story like if you really know me story you know he a living legend no no no we're not saying no i'm not i'm not i'm not saying any i'm not saying you know if you listen look if you're at the bmf book and all that you probably expect something different other than the cool kickback laid back talks though yeah well and you only talk if you got something important to say type shit like they probably expect something different so when you get on camera you lose the mystique is what i'm in like you live into the imagination when you're not on camera as much man you thought differently not y 'all but of uh jay prince but then when he get he an old ass man when he go on camera you know youngster i'm saying and you thinking like i'm gonna fuck you up you you're not even the person you know i'm saying yeah we don't expect jay prince be yelling okay okay one first even or WAC 100, before anybody even seen him or knew who he was, right?

19:29Or you heard the verse with Game, oh, WAC 100, he backed me up, dropped the bag and gave him whatever, that fairytale story he told in that verse. Like people probably thought more or thought the dude was tougher than what he was, and then WAC ended up getting no clubhouse, no jumper on camera, and now you erased all doubt. Like you're saying, it waters down the brand. Yeah, but they didn't do it to anybody. But that's why people still hold Big U to a higher regard. Imagine if Big U was doing interviews every week. He was. No. With Shaq and all that. Every week. He was. No. He was. Bro, it was minimal.

20:10He went on a million dollars worth of game. He had checking in podcasts. I was short-lived. Like, when he spoke, it was minimal. Yeah, but the thing is, I kind of agree with Spodey because it started an uptick with him. but as soon as his uptick on being on camera, that's when they came after his ass. Like, it seemed like... No, as soon as he started getting into a whack, they came after his ass. What are we talking about? But that coincided with him putting himself out there. No, no, no. If he would have never bumped heads with Cajones, it wouldn't have been all the chatter. It would have been that appearance on Man, that is worth the game.

20:45It would have been the checking in podcast he had for a short time. And where else did you see him? All right, look, so let me lay my point. What I was trying to say in the beginning is, I didn't say, y 'all say, because Meech is now so accessible to the public, especially what you're saying, it takes away from kind of like - I'm talking about not just Meech, I'm talking about anybody. Okay, yeah, so I'm going to specifically talk about Meech. What I think in Meech's case is, I think you can say that, yeah, I'm not going to deny that, but what I will say is him over anybody, that's why I keep bringing up the living legend, I think it's a lot of people like myself, like when he get to telling stories and stuff like that people be really wanting to hear that though bro like you gotta understand we're not disputing just listen for a second when I'm fill up a plane rent a plane and take all these people out the country niggas bitches again that's what I'm saying like if pop he one of the few people I think that people will actually listen to and they want to hear I never heard a person that say I want Meech to stop talking.

21:49I heard plenty of people say I want to hear Keefe D stop talking. That's like if Pablo Escobar is alive right now. You know how many people want to pick his brain and want to do it. Meech, that's what I'm saying. He wanted a few that baited. He actually alive and on the streets. How long have Meech been out of jail? Under a year now. Over. It's been over a year? Probably, but I guess. He just now started talking. Ain't nobody tired of him? I'm telling you. No, he don't talk a lot. He ain't going to run you down. He ain't going to run you low. So that's what I'm saying. So how does it take some of the mystique away?

22:24From everybody. Anybody, bro. You don't think that's going to build his brand even more, though? Man, you got to look up the word mystique, bro. Okay, tell me how he would lose more than game more as far as him streaming. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that you're wrong because to some people it might do. Like, oh, I thought you was a super gangster. You super cartel. You know, da-da-da-da. I never want to see you on the camera. But to other people, it's like, that's only going to make you bigger. Losing your mystique ain't necessarily a bad thing. I know. I'm a grim. It just makes you into a different thing.

22:51But I think it's more people who wants to see him on camera than versus not. I'm going to give you somebody else that got mystique. You don't hear him talk or somebody might have called him on the phone during an interview. Top Dog, a TDE. A lot of mystique. You know what I'm saying? if if Top Dog which he made it clear he ain't doing none of those he started doing interviews he kind of lost his mystique you could you could you could like you could you could almost gauge how you want to come out after having so much being secluded for so long and now you could you could you could gauge how you want the world to perceive you after a while because you've been mysterious for so long perception is reality but sometimes mystique can be your edge and sometimes it cannot be.

23:41Yeah, because I don't think that people want to hear Top Dog talk like they tell stories like they'd rather hear. Crazy as fuck. Man, bro, you tell me. If you tell the person, do I want to hear a Top Dog story or a Big Me story, I'll pretty. It depends on who you're talking to, bro. Yeah, I'm sure. Because we done heard, we done heard Big Me story just not from him. We got the book. We got the documentary. We got the BMF series. We got Blue Da Vinci. We got J-Bo. We heard the story, we just ain't heard it from him, no. Yeah, and that's a big problem is when you have to live up to the acting. When you have to live up to the characters that they blow up and might take things out of proportion, and then you got to try to live up to this shit and this and this.

24:22And you're like, dude, I'm not even like, they got me wrong, I'm just a chill dude. I lay back, I make money. That's why I made the money I got. I didn't make the money I got from being a loud mouth or being this person that they portraying. and I think sometimes the audience will think like, oh, I'm expecting him to get out and be this person. Uncle Luke. Yeah. Yeah, you could do it player, do the stream and shit player and not like come off super goofy, but also, yeah, like you said, staying like in the shadows and shit and just being this figure when you have this reputation, it leaves the imagination where people could just imagine you as this character in their head and like this, you know, big kingpin and he just move a certain way and then you watch the stream and it's like, oh, he's, you know, like a chill dude, like he's just trying to live life.

25:03Like what I gathered, reading books and stuff like that in the past, I take him to be a chill dude. Because the stories I heard, he always calming down the situations. He don't want the Jackers around. He want his team to have everybody have money so it ain't nothing to argue about. Bottles for everybody, bitches for everybody, money for everybody. What's to argue about now? You know what I'm saying? He always been like, well, no, I don't know. From what you read. what I gather he's a chill dude anyway though his brother was a long mouth he is so like you think there's any going back to the Keefy D do you think there's any part of Keefy D where he's like damn I fucked up of course they put me no but at the end of it is Keefy D saying well shit they still gonna remember me in history as being one of the people that took out Tupac type shit cause he was super clout chasing like do you think there's any part of him that's like shit even though I'm in a cell like they still I'm going down in history people hate you for killing Tupac If he had the bread he had back then, he would have never did this shit.

26:03He was chasing it, bro. He wanted some bread. He was chasing a chick. He took out Pop, one of the greatest to ever do it. Took him out before he was even at his peak. Like, motherfuckers hate. If this is true, I can't stand that nigga for killing Tupac. Yeah, that's fucked up. I mean, he didn't do it. He was in a car. Same difference, though. Same shit. He was driving. Same shit. He was driving, right? Passed you. Passed the bike to him. Okay. Yeah, same shit. Yeah, man. Man, Keefe D, the ultimate story of playing yourself, man. Tupac, my top five for sure. Rob Markman, My number one. That shit is fucking horrible.

26:39Rob Markman, My number one. Tupac, my top five for sure. Man. Y 'all ever trip off of how young Tupac was and what he did in that short amount of time? All the time. When I have a debate about the greatest rappers of all time, I stay bringing out... You got to bring that up. when you got all your pretty much all your albums are platinum and the amount of songs and his work ethic when he died at 25, 26 years old, him and Biggie? Like, you could even... Was it 24 or 25? No, he was 25. I believe... He was 25 and Biggie was 26, right? No, no, no. I think he was 25. No, he was 25. He was at least 25.

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27:15No, he was like 25 and 26. Look that up. But not even to include the fucking movies either. You know what I'm saying? All that shit. So he had multiple... He was just everything, bro. Like, you know, to do that at 25 and then you die and you put out another, like, 10 albums, double CDs at that. So, like, just imagine his work ethic. Imagine where he would have been. Like, you got dudes, and let's just be fair, dudes like Jay-Z and all these other dudes, they wasn't doing nothing when Pac was out. No. Imagine what Jay-Z would have been, you know what I'm saying, if Pac was still alive. Yeah. You know, and he was one of the good ones.

27:47I don't think it's fair to compare, like, Jay-Z to Pac's and stuff. You got to compare him to the other deceased. Yeah, 25, Biggie, 24. Tupac, 25. Why'd you say that? I mean, because you can't compare Jay-Z to Tupac because, you know, Jay-Z outlived him and went on to do more. Yeah, but he got more accolades, of course. No, but why I say that, he bought his accolades. We were getting into that, and that's a whole other thing. But why I say that. That's conspiracy theories. No, that's actually a fact. But why I say that is because When Pac was alive Pac had his foot on his neck They wouldn't put some units like that or nothing like that Like he wasn't even the biggest On the east coast You know what I'm saying Pac had his foot on his Biggie was doing something But Pac had his foot On his neck they wasn't pushing Do you feel like Tupac's demise was partially because People feel like he wasn't being himself Of like a kid who went to like art school and shit and then he started being with the gangbanging shit and all that shit like it was just maturation like just a young cat growing up you know what i mean like you a product of your environment and what you're around he was he was to me i'm oh that's that's young you know what i mean like you still developing like your your super impressionable still and shit and learning and finding out new shit and he wrote dear mama and all that uh brenda's got a baby at a way younger than 24 he wrote that shit under 20 yeah he got a number one album in prison bro Like, Platinum Mama in prison.

29:21You think about his character Bishop in Juice. You know what I mean? Like, his roles in movies and his acting ability. Legendary. Above the rim. Yeah, Poetic Justice. Poetic Justice. He got five classic movies, bro. 25 years old, bro. It's like. No comparisons. To me, like, when you had a big comparison of the conversation, to me, it's just no comparison. For artistry, for sure. And then you the nigga that told on yourself about helping taking him out. You are a disservice to your people. How many albums has Big dropped since he died? One? One. How many albums since Pac died? It just showed you the work ethic, though, bro.

30:01Hey, Mo. That shit is crazy. That's your original statement, right? Yeah. Now, I don't know nobody else is getting on, but all right, let's just say I'm A1. You know what I'm saying? Pre me getting shot. If I'm hanging out in these dudes' hood and somebody come through, I'm busting back at who's busting at us, whether they from my hood or not. This is who I'm with. These are my people. Yeah. Right? So now you got Tupac. He with death row, bro. It's somebody opposing death row and these niggas. Somebody talking about all he didn't did. I mean, he fucked them up or booted them or whatever. I don't see nothing wrong with what he did, But I think the people that was with him, him being the bad, him being the artist, y 'all should have snatched him up like ASAP, like, oh, no, stand down because they ain't really.

30:50Yeah, that's going to lead you down a dark path probably. Right, right. But they look at it like some Powerpoint Cripp shit, but he's saying he took my Def Roe chain. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm a part of Def Roe. He just riding with what, you know what I'm saying? That's just how I look at it, you know what I mean? And then, like, you know what I'm saying? People love Nip so much. This game culture is contagious, bro. It ain't all bad like Wax. I ain't going back over there. They dirty on the corner. Why would I go hang on the park? Man, what are you talking about? My homeboy kids play football in that park.

31:24I might go watch them practice. It ain't what people put on, bro. Don't believe the Wax 100 narrative is because people not walking where they grew up at. You know what I'm saying? because I love my community. Like, I know the nigga at the store. I know the nigga that delivered the mail. The same barber, been a barber for years. Everybody played basketball, grew up playing basketball at the same park and football. So, I mean, people look at it one way. But back to the Pac thing, I look at it different, though. Like, oh, he got the people busy. Nah, nigga, like, what are you talking about? Like, oh, boy said something to Adam when y 'all was doing the IRL.

32:02You could have let Adam handle that, but not. We together, right? Yeah, yeah. okay what are we talking about yeah like you came with me like and that's he had a a you know a rebel type spirit spirit nigga yeah like black panther lineage so what's wrong with that is what i'm saying i think just because like people often say like you know like when gang members get into it they're like oh you got into this when you was this age you know i'm saying when you was this age i got put on when i was 13 like you're not really you know i'm saying it's like that conversation Hey, listen, listen. Who fumbled is the people that was around him and should have stopped him before he went and did what he did.

32:39You know what I'm saying? That's who fumbled. But Tupac moving on his own accordance, I don't see nothing wrong with what he did because, man, that's who I'm out here with. And then we got this East Coast, West Coast rivalry together. We together. Yeah. Like, I mean. And it was the night, too. Don't forget about how big the night was. It was the Mike Tyson fight. Like, sometimes it be just a whole momentum, energy. He was hyped up off the fight. Man. He just seen it. I mean, I watched Mike Tyson beat somebody. You know what I mean? I'm going to be hyped up, too. You up in Vegas. You up. You know what I mean?

33:13And you just get caught up in the fucking moment. And that shit is crazy. Your adrenaline rushing. Like you say, we with it. We on this. This is what we on. But it's just a sad situation. It's the same dude that's seen two white boys whooping out a black man and bust on them and bust on two undercovers by accident. Like he gets right for his folks That's how he Bro he see two white boys Random white boys Putting hands on his black men And he whipped down And started barking He didn't know that man From a can of paint But it's his folks though So show that it's not just Like the gang ass That getting caught up It's just him Defending his folks That's the pattern of How he get down bro Environment change Yeah so So he came You know he came from That type of structure And stuff like that From his mom and his stepdad And that's why I think Just like he said He had a rebel Rebel type of spirit but it's so that's a that's a that's like a yin and a yang because a lot of people wanted to control Tupac but like he was just doing him like I don't think he could have been controlled but I feel like the most disappointing and the most unfortunate part about Tupac's demise is was like a lot of people say like man why why did y 'all have that under control bro he was too big he meant too much to the coach or too much to the coach and that was the bag yeah like you know i'm saying like that was the bag shook was controlling everybody else pretty much you know so he was controlling everybody else why he didn't control tupac and then everybody else doing their dirty work but to be honest the story and the see the stuff that i've seen unfold and hearing everybody else um stories it was just like you know he had a lot of yes men around him and all knowing that is they them dudes felt like they was untouchable bro yeah it seems like a lot of our greatest artists and stuff have like that you know that feeling like you know i'm saying i'm not listening to what nobody tell me you know i'm saying i'm on top of the world and that's kind of what makes them great in a certain type of way you feel me long time moose they were untouchable yeah but but you gotta understand to a regular person to a gaming i don't care who you are exactly you you i'm really from everybody bleeds you know i'm saying the same exactly all the love that they was getting out here and how they was moving around and bullying shit and doing this and doing that they he's seen it in his presence and i i get it just went to his head yeah hey well Well, let me give y 'all a good comparison.

35:25You know what I mean? Let's see who gets tongue-tied. Right? I'm going to give y 'all a good comparison. Now, if y 'all believe the good words of our good friend Poetic Flacco, everybody go like, subscribe to Poetic Flacco. No, unsubscribe, dislike. No, no, no. If y 'all believe the things that come out of his mouth, his words is that the day of Draco's demise, it came in and some dude named the dude that sold her clothes, I forget his name whatever, you know what I'm saying he ran to, Draco said, oh the bloodshed tried to take my chain yeah, chief and chief and heavily, there it go and Draco, what?

36:06and ran to the trouble to protect his homie to protect his homie behind the chain do you see like the parallel between this chain thing somebody relating a story to this you know i mean and and you know i think whoever security was that they fumble because your job is to secure the artist not run along with them and help them squabble secure the artist just like they did with snoop dogg and dr j when they was trying to get presented for a award and death rate death wrote y 'all to come and stop it security got them out the back door, got the artists out and let the insiders stay in front line and stand off a death row or whatever.

36:49Do you see the parallel with that? Yeah, yeah. But it's just that same type of spirit where it's like, I'm going to stand up for my homies no matter what the consequences are type of shit. But I can see the security being different for Dr. Dre and Snoop. That's what I was going to say, yeah. Different levels for sure. Larger stars, celebrity status, but signed to major labels and shit. Definitely trying to redeem your homie or whatever your claim is, trying to redeem that. Like running towards the problem when it's like somebody else go handle that shit. I mean, before. Are you familiar with the term moonlighting?

37:25I've heard it. I don't know the exact definition. Like acting as if something, acting as something. Like moonlighting, that's what they was doing. They were off-duty police officers and they were security. or they was retired police officers and they was security. That's moonlighting, right? Man, I'm going to be moonlighting, bro. Hey, bro, because just ain't no any nigga with a guard card and a CCW about to secure me. They got 600 being security. That nigga not securing me. Niggas dislike this nigga. They going to be shooting at me and him. Nah, I want somebody that's equipped and that, you know, could get the job.

38:09You've been in those situations before, things like that. I mean, the home security, cool. That's cool. I think the common denominator in a lot of these instances where these young men has lost their life, and it's unfortunate, I think it's pride, bro. And I feel like pride is one of the most dangerous things that a man can possess, bro, because pride gets you hurt out here. Not a lot of people know how to walk away. That'd be the hardest thing to let something go because how it makes you feel inside. It's not easy to turn the left cheek. It's not easy to swallow your pride. It's not easy to turn away or let you allow somebody to feel like, especially these days and days when everybody's recording everything.

38:53Nobody wants to take an L. Nobody, you know what I'm saying, wants to feel like we let them get one up on you. And that's just my part of the thing that I've been trying to work on. it's hard bro but at the end of the day is when you learn to like you know what I'm gonna go ahead and live a fight another day or I'm gonna make it home to my kids and not care about one another I think it'd be a lot better but I think in this instance right here it's pride that's the common denominator it's pride they didn't want to let it go just like he said Pac went up to you he took your way I'm first one to go you know what I'm saying like he said whether that happened or not I don't know what really happened with Draco that's really true that's a story if you believe what Poetic Federal said that's the example I'm going with I got a question about pride then since we here do you think that it has hurt us having more pride in our hood name than our last name 1000 % because that's just beginning of time I think pride is universal I think you know especially with men when men have pride it becomes dangerous especially you know in situations where you where you can't set the pride to the side i definitely i definitely think especially it's more in the streets in the street aspect because if you if you a civilian you tend to more like if you get into an altercation like well you know you ain't putting your hands on me or anything like that so i could just let it go some most civilians be like oh when you ain't putting your hands on me whatever the case is versus a street dude if y 'all just getting into altercation or you get lied with me or you show any type of aggression as a street dude i'm supposed to get off i'm supposed to you know i'm saying disarm you or you know i'm saying handle that so that's that's be the disadvantage you know or this type of scrutiny that you place yourself in um in my personal opinion yeah it's being a street dude versus to being a civilian civilian you can walk away and nobody's like oh he was a bigger man you're civilian oh he was a bigger man you can walk away reputation you could get away with some shit like that yeah you could get away with a whole lot.

40:54Well, I can't. If it was a situation right here, right now, and you just walked away from it, you know what I'm saying? They're like, oh. I wouldn't have to face consequences for that. But if I did it, it's like, oh, you got marked out and da-da-da-da-da-da. You know what I'm saying? Held to a standard and expectation of what the street is. From the streets. Hey, man. Correct. Hey, Moose, fuck. Get away with it. Hey, look. Snitching. Hey, look. Fuck where I'm going to live when I get out of jail. I'm going to live with myself. I feel horrible. It's a me thing. Fuck talking about, I don't give a fuck what niggas talking about.

41:26I ain't going with it. He's just something about me. Just certain shit I ain't going to do. Period. It ain't, I got to, oh, I'm sorry, dub. No, I got to do this. No, fuck that. That's just me. But also, that's the environment that you came up your whole life. So it's like, that's what forms you. You feel me as well? Yeah, yeah. I'm conditioned a certain way. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yep, you correct. That definitely plays a part. Yeah, but it ain't because. I know what you're saying. You could take that apart and you'd still be handling your scandal type shit. Yeah, but guess what? It's civilians that go by the same ethic code, too, though.

42:01That is like, nigga, they go mind their business and close their door. They lock their door. If the police are not going to go door to door and ask questions, it's civilians, too. You just not one of them. You need to be, nigga. We need the recruiting. No, no, no recruiting going on here. I'm not getting put on the set at 31. Should we do the little donations between topics type shit like you were saying, Rios? Yeah, just because people were saying we be out the loop when we read them later type shit. Yeah, we don't know what they talking about. Yeah, we doing five and up, right? Yeah, five and up, man.

42:33That's$2. Yeah, they were saying crazy shit last time. Big Mike Hemi,$4.99. Last hour of the Sunday show, hearing all of Wack's old stories was terrible. We blame Adam. Please never leave Wack alone with the mic, the mic Adam he was telling he said which I watched it I didn't see that one 100 racks Nick 528 member for 16 months is YB better finally gonna be true if Dirk gets convicted since YB got pardoned from the feds is YB better like young boy better than Dirk cause that was always like the troll by YB fans for Dirk is YB better they comment in all the comment sessions so the metric is because he got pardoned and this dude about to get convicted?

43:15Yeah. That's the metric? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, they tripping, bro. I wish, you know, Trump was running right now because he probably pardoned Dirk if he was running again. Circtivo619,$5. Big Meech, Def a Legend. He was up more than your favorite rapper, Easy. Dude was putting people in places these music execs do. He Def a Legend. I don't think anybody's disputing that. We're just talking about mistake, bro. Big Mike Hemi,$4.99. Happy Hood Day to Munchie on IFG. Welcome back. Spody on 40 Crip. Go with it. Reset the donation. Alley 197 member for 16 months. Shout out to the fellas. Shout out to you.

43:52Chosen. $10. Hey, NoJumperGang, how do y 'all handle the merch order process? Do y 'all use print on demand? You got to talk to Josh about that one. JR6 Deuce member for one month. Drop the NoJumper low. I'll chip whack on Thursday. Dead home. Okay. Okay. Young Triple OG 499. Rios, when Wack asked you to elaborate on your critiques of him, did you forget what they were? No, it was basically what everybody was saying. Like him being like behind the scenes, bringing people in for certain reasons to move people out. That's what I was getting from it. Yeah, I think a lot of us have some criticisms.

44:33Hey, that's all you said? Because all that shit is a myth. J-Hood ain't here because of this fool. No, I have brought - And D.W. Flame wasn't sat down next to Brick to do no bullshit. So, like, all that shit, he just be taking credit for it. But that's what I had brought up, and he said no. I was like, you - But he claimed that, though. But that's all he - He claimed that he put this dude right there and knew he was going to disrespect him. He said he - I said, J-Hood right next to Munchy, you shut the fuck up. Like, he be taking credit for shit, like, but, yeah, I didn't watch it, man. I be off the whack.

45:11Yeah, even when I was voicing my criticism as a whack, he would just kind of lie about stuff. Like, I'd be like, oh, you had the issue with Aunt Jefe. He's like, I ain't got no issue with Aunt Jefe. Look at this text. Me and him was just texting, and as soon as Aunt Jefe goes to prison, he goes on, like, a tirade run of, like, a media run of tarnishing Aunt Jefe. So he'll just kind of lie and avoid the critique anyway, so it don't matter. Right. Big Mike Hemi, 499. No rapper has accomplished what Tupac has accomplished at 25 on IFG. Why do you guys keep... They be banging IFG through all the seats now.

45:39All the donations have that now. Why? Most official RVD,$5. Let me tell you something about Munchie B. Co went to Washington, homecoming, was in the stands, and walked out, and nothing happened to Co. Is that true? That's from the intro. Glow T, Bully,$4.99. Really fired to see Spody back. the cast is goaded yeah shout out to y 'all man shout out to y 'all what did y 'all think of the pot off did y 'all see any of the pot off i know spody you know i'm saying you're uh you know pod adversary ricky was uh going to battle with doughboy did you see any clips or anything from it i didn't watch it i'm gonna be honest i didn't watch it i was definitely rooting for doughboy though hey no no look look i gotta give me a membership too i ain't i ain't gonna look the Chad absolutely hates Ricky, right?

46:30All right, that's without a doubt. And if you ask me, Ricky won. But Doughboy did his best potting in his whole time on no jumpers. Since this is a competition. Hold on. He brought him some highlights. That's my son. See, I moved for him. I brought the best out of him. Doughboy was very spunky. Shout out Doughboy. My son, son. He was at Thiva for sure. My son, bro. Y 'all got Doughbys. But if it's a debate, you got to be informed on what you're debating about. And he thought it was cool just to have some cool responses but not be informed. And then he'd be wishy-washy on his responses. You know what I'm saying?

47:08Stuff like that. So I would say Ricky won. Off of facts or performance? Facts. It was off of facts, for sure. But that's what I thought y 'all didn't calculate into. It was the entertaining aspect. Because Dolphoy was more entertaining, for sure. You definitely got to go into consideration about Pott. That was my fault for sure because it was obviously the first one. We got to set the ground rules, but it did end up being kind of like too official of a debate. Like we was in school type shit where it's like point for point when it should have been. This is a podcasting debate, so these things should all be weighed because Doughboy had me crying at certain points.

47:42Yeah, you got to take it. So you got to do a regrade on that because, you know what I'm saying, entertainment is a part of it. Yeah, it was 3-3. Doughboy was starting on a position and ending with another position every time. Yeah, that was fire. It'll be a question And Doughboy's starting off with insults He go, Ricky ain't shit I gotta take a Who was narrating? Did you? I did the mediating Munchie judge, the chat judge One vote, and then the behind the scenes folks Judge one vote, you know what I'm saying? What y 'all, I think, messed up was Letting Ricky Ask him questions After the prompt or whatever Now usually you have to stick to the The prompt and you can't lead somebody down a rabbit hole in a debate.

48:25And as an answer, say you answer my question like, hey, why you like Red? And as you say you like Red, I'm like, yeah, but what about this? And then you try to get him in gotcha trap questions. Ricky kept asking him questions that he wasn't even ready for the first question. The little dirt topic, he was cooking him on that one because he was like, you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I'm like, ah. He said, who was the shooter? Who was on the stand? He kept asking him. The gotchas. Yeah, but in a debate, y 'all post asked the questions and they just answered. Yeah, that's what I asked.

48:52Not no back and forth questions. Like, I asked both of them, what was Dirk best day in court? When was it a W? What day was that? Yeah, what was the worst day? But, like, I wanted to know that he knew something about the, you know what I'm saying? The topic at hand. But, hey, they taught, I got Ricky as the winner debating, but Doughboy got his pot on. yeah performance go ahead no I don't give a fuck if he wrong it was good it was hilarious yeah that's a part of parlor you gotta eat you know what I'm saying this is theater yeah that was the funniest he's been and whether he won tied or lost that was good for Doughboy he needed that bro like I guess he thought it was on the line yeah I think he really needs pressure on him to perform you feel me because the last time he potted like that was the host competition that he won he was potting his ass off I ain't seen that Doughboy since till yesterday.

49:47I'm not going to care. So did y 'all apologize to Doughboy? Because all y 'all were saying that he was all saying he was going to go in here and get smoked. I didn't say he was going to get smoked. I thought it was going to be a good thing. Y 'all said he was going to get smoked. What you graded on, he did get smoked. Munchy, you said your money on Doughboy no matter what. No, Ricky. All your money on Ricky, yeah. But hold on. But see, this is the first one. So the criteria is kind of like. Yeah, a little shaky. But like, bro, the man was very entertaining. but podding and knowing what you talking about and sticking it on one stance he don't got that he was contradicting for sure they said if you could fire one host what would you do it'd be moose list off the reasons then he said who your favorite no jumper host so and so so moose how you gonna fire your favorite host so he kinda like he was iffy on that he like bro and then they thought I was being biased with Ricky and I'm like bro now y 'all got me doubting myself Yeah.

50:44You probably was because you didn't take performance. Most. It was just because the criterias weren't set out there for Munchie, so he was basing it off. Give your honest opinion on how I judge things, bro, honestly. I think it's just because we weren't evaluating, like Rio said, the entertainment factor. I think if you were weighing that per round, then you would give Doughboy more points. But you was basing it like, no, we at school with the shirt and tie on debating, Ricky's cooking on all these points. He's exposing the contradictions in his arguments, but Doughboy has some funny-ass responses and funny-ass rebuttals.

51:19We don't need to put pot-off and debate in the same sentence, bro, because it's just a pot-off. When I hear debate, I'm more like substance. No, no, no, listen. Like you and Brendan, right? Yeah, that was supposed to be substance. Listen, even in a debate, you can have all the facts in the world, but it's still going for performance and presentation. No, no, no. it's presentation as well. Performance and entertainment is two different things. No, but I'm saying even in a debate it's still presentation. If you don't present it right, you can have all the facts in the world but in a pot of our debate it's still presentation.

51:52Trump won our lives. You don't have to be facts. And you can have all the facts and be like, okay, so yeah, these are the facts and everybody's like, man, that dude sucks. You know what I'm saying? Not saying that's Ricky, but you could have the monotone bullshit with all the facts. Get the criteria straight, right? Yeah. Get the criteria straight. I don't give a fuck what y 'all going off of. Facts entertainment I'm I'm I'm gonna smoke anybody in a nojumper building and that go for Eggers HR podcast hosts I'm smoking anybody right but but but you talking about a pot off but but but hold on you talking about a pot off hold on you just saying you gotta say what you saying cause you just saying anybody in the building hold up nigga I'm in the building hold up what is you what is you talking about though you need practice bro I don't need practice hold on you need practice hold on See, now you just say it.

52:41Say what you say before you continue. Say what you're talking about first. Say what you're just. I want Moose, go back, boom, to the drawing board. Because we might have to be next, nigga. You know what I'm saying? And you ain't got to share the criteria. I'm going to make some changes for sure. Yeah, I got you. Homework, nigga. Hey, look, look, look. I want to pot off? Yeah, we might have to be next. Wait, wait, wait. Pot off? Pot off or debate? Pot off. Because the entertainment factor is very important. I said that to her. With anybody. It could be two of y 'all. He ain't been too much. I don't need two of me to be - I ain't got to be - I ain't got to be me too - Man, you see man, yeah he ain't popping it too much.

53:15Yeah, nigga. I accept the challenge, nigga. I accept the challenge, nigga. Yeah. Yeah, set it up. We coming next, nigga, because you crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. It need to be you and somebody else. No, no, no. It need to be me and you, because you tripping this - Hey, listen, hold on. Bro, I ain't never been no bitch, bro. Listen, and you can't bring no drink then, nigga, because you got help. You can't bring no drink, nigga. You got to come sober like I'm coming sober. If you bring in a drink, if you got a cup of water, I'm going to drink the cup of water. I ain't never drunk the cup of water.

53:44We got to be on the same level. You bring cup of water, I bring cup of water. If I get to drink, I get to stuttering and shit, that would be even easier for you, bro. I stutter too, though. You better hope I leave a bottle at home, bro. You in trouble. I stutter too, though. You better hope. No, no, no. Yeah, we got to set this up. Yeah, we got to set this up. We'll make a couple changes of the format, and I think we could get a real good fucking pot-off format going. I'm not going to lie. Bro, I want him and somebody else at the same time. No, there's got to be one-on-one, head-to-head. No, you got to catch his face.

54:10First, you're talking about a guy. If you go head-to-head and you destroy somebody, then it's like, okay, Munchie's at a different tier. But you got to at least have one pot-off face. Then when you lose, you're going to be like, ah, I was two. Yeah. Like, ah, no. No, I'm never going to make no excuses. What do you think about Ricky kind of bringing up the chat and how he shouldn't lose certain rounds because the chat's biased against him? No, that's true. They just don't like him. That's an excuse. That's what I've been trying to tell him. No, but listen. But is that valid or is it not valid? Because it's like at the end of the day, we make the impression on the fans.

54:41Whatever we do on camera is what makes the fans think whatever about us. This is what I would change. The two judges should be two people that work here, and then the tiebreaker would be the chat. Instead of it was me, the chat, and then, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Nathan, Steven, or Mikey, they would vote too. Because the chat is biased towards certain people. Some may be, I'm a fan favorite towards the chat, and they might not like Sporty Face. Or I may be a fan favorite towards the chat, and they might not like Moose Man. Yeah. So if you got two people that's under this roof, that's the judge, and then the tiebreaker be the chat, that's better.

55:21Okay. I got to call Ricky out on something because you said he was using that excuse. Remember, we sat right here, and when I said, I said, you lucky dope boy is here because you was the most hate in the chat. What did he say after that? I don't even pay attention to them. I don't care. I do da-da-da-da-da. So you can't say this right now and then try to come use that as an excuse. No, paying attention to the chat and being aware of the chat is so different. No, no, no. But he said you don't care. You don't know you're not a fan favorite. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but you can't acknowledge because he basically said that don't mean nothing.

55:50That don't have nothing to do with my potting, da-da-da-da-da. And then you try to use that excuse because you said you don't care about it. Yeah, I can overcome that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Which he did in the first round. I would give Ricky more credit, but the first round was 51-49 in the poll. So it's like Ricky won. Who, Doughboy or Ricky? Doughboy won. It was 50-50, and then Doughboy won by 1%. But clearly who won, though? Clearly the first round. What out of doubt? Ricky for sure did. No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. Take entertainment into consideration. No, no, no. Say it. No, take entertainment and put all that into consideration now, though.

56:22That's going to be in consideration next time. Yeah, Ricky was much more fact-based in the first round, But then once Doughboy started sending shots, Ricky got it on his entertainment shit, too. Started saying, you know, you fat. You don't get no bitches. You can't move a couch. Let me ask you this question now. All right. Y 'all can start it next time. But I'm saying now that you put. No, for sure. Bring entertainment. Absolutely. That's the number one. That's number one. Yeah. Would you consider. I mean, would you stay. Because who you had winning? Ricky? I was the mediator, so I didn't have no vote.

56:53You know what I'm saying? Alright, well now, considering entertainment and all that, would you have Doughboy winning on Ricky? I would say just because Ricky pods like that consistently and Doughboy showed me a whole other side of Doughboy. He would have got in his bag. Yeah, he was in his bag. This is the question. This is the real question. No, no, wait, wait, wait. Ricky has a higher standard of potting from his consistent potting. Who would you rather watch? I would say Doughboy because he was making me laugh more. No, you'd rather watch Doughboy that day. Yeah, that day. That day. We're talking about just in the pot off.

57:22Doughboy can't keep that up? Well, that was the contest. Yeah, if he's racing out off the meds, then yeah, he's ass. That was the contest. That was the contest. So, so, so, so, you know what I said, right? That was the Super Bowl. You know what you and Munchie said, right? Yeah. That Doughboy won. That in Ricky has his ceiling. No, no, no, no, no. That ain't what I said. You said Ricky consistently pilot. This is what you said. I think it was kind of like, you know. He has his ceiling. Oh, he did say that. You said he has his ceiling. No, I didn't say that. That's exactly what you said. You said Ricky has his ceiling.

57:50He has a higher standard than Doughboy's potting because Doughboy has been doing quite shitty at potting lately, and he turned it on. But did he elevate? He, like, played possum and then turned it on on the Super Bowl. He ain't playing possum. He got a different bag. Yeah, Doughboy got his bag more than Ricky. And Ricky's always in his bag, but Doughboy got in his extra bag that time. Who showed up more that day? Doughboy. Doughboy. Yeah, Doughboy showed out more because Ricky pods like that on the regular, I would say, how he was potting that day. Shout out to Ricky You have a ceiling Anybody gonna run faster when the police behind them Man that's just how it goes That's fire That's true That's a lot of slow niggas He was running a 4-2-40 that day And dope boy He showed up He did But he the fastest one He should be the slowest one He should be the slowest one when a nigga's running backwards.

58:42He the fattest one, so he's ripping his soul. But Doughboy tripping people as he's running from the police and getting away. Listen. So how the police chasing Ricky and Doughboy and Doughboy the only one get away? No. Because Ricky got shot. Because Ricky got shot. Come on, bro. What is he doing? Ricky! Ricky! Ricky! Because Ricky's the police in this situation. Chasing Doughboy. No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. No, he chasing the fucking job. No, because Doughboy had a rise to the occasion. I think Ricky underestimated Doughboy. And Doughboy had it. All y 'all did. I'm the only person who picked Doughboy on record.

59:17I'm the only one that said I got Doughboy. You wouldn't have won, bro. You wouldn't have won. Why you so excited? You wouldn't have won shit. How? Doughboy won. I'm the only person in the song. I said I got Doughboy in his match. Wow. Hey, bro. He did say that on the 24-hour. He told me I'm the only one that picked Doughboy. He didn't win. Yeah. In a way, he win because. How he did it when y 'all said you said it was close, but you didn't even consider it. They tied 3-3. And that's what I'm saying. And then in reality, Ricky won if you talk about debating. We all happy that Doughboy rose to the occasion.

59:46This is what you said, Munchy. You say Ricky won if you're going off of facts. But you didn't consider the performance in an entertainment. And that's not his fault. That's my fault for not establishing that. Right now we can ask both of y 'all who would y 'all have rather watched. Both of y 'all said Doughboy. It just depends on what I'm trying to watch for. That's what I'm saying. Like to even have a conversation. But if I wanted to tune in and learn something about the Dirt case, I would tune into Ricky. If I just want to be entertained, then I would tune into Doughboy. Depending on what you're trying to get out the content.

1:00:14That's what I'm saying. Because Doughboy don't know shit about what he's talking about. I got to begin. Watch this. Evidently, right? I want to say something. But he said it. No, yeah, yeah. But he was doing a good job of serving it up. He was doing a good job of serving it up. Exactly. He filled a lot of space. Look, watch this. Repeat what you just said about Ricky. Man, I would not hire you. Listen. That's cool. I forgot what I said. What did I say? Repeat what you just said. Repeat what you said. I forgot what I was saying. You said exactly what you said. What did I say? No, no, I'm not talking about it.

1:00:41I'm talking about moves, I thought. I said if I want to learn, like that shit, like if I want to learn something about the case or a topic, then I'll tune into Ricky. If I want to be like, you know, entertain and laugh at some shit, I'll tune into Doughboy. All right. So what did you say? That's why Doughboy got his own show, and that's why Ricky on the news. No. Hey, let me tell you something. Because look, if you want to know what happened in the case, you'll watch Trappler and Ross. Yeah. If you ain't going to get entertained like Doughboy, where else are you going to watch that? The Doughboy is one of a kind.

1:01:08I can say that for sure. For sure. I don't think being on a Tuesday show or the Monday show make you special, bro. No. I don't think that. Yeah, I'm not very special. I'm not going to lie. People hate me up here. For sure you're not. Yeah. But if we do a pod off, just know. I didn't say that because you got on me on a pod off. Yeah, I definitely did. I definitely did. Rob Markman, bro, if somebody consistently all throughout the week on the news, how is that more, you know what I'm saying? Rob Markman, you ain't got nothing to do with you, Munchy. You taking up for something. Your shots fired.

1:01:41Rob Markman, but I said this a couple days ago. Rob Markman, you into something. You getting into something that you ain't even got no part of. Rob Markman, but that's a good point, Munchy. Rob Markman, but didn't I say this a couple days ago? That's a good - Rob Markman, this not a new take, I'm saying. Rob Markman, it's a good point you making, Munchy, but - Rob Markman, I just said that when I did my brief little quiddle, you feel me? I said, man, I ain't got to be on a Tuesday show. I go over there with the – Square cast. Yeah, square cast. I go over there with Doughboy. I don't have to be on a Tuesday show, bro.

1:02:06It's a great time on Monday. I'm still on – I'm on a big platform. I'm good. I'm straight. I think you putting yourself – you indicating yourself is something that ain't got nothing to do with you. But I agree with you. I'm shooting that Ricky, bro. I agree with you, but Ricky's the one who kind of watered it down by saying they got me on the bench. If he would have never said that, people wouldn't even look at the news spots as that. That's what we're trying to say. So, like, he kind of brought himself down. The news is not the bench, bro. Well, to me, it's not. You get 2 ,000 live viewers. So tell Ricky that then.

1:02:35He don't think he's in the game. He don't think he's in the game. He can sit on the bench. And that's what Doughboy got on him about. He said, oh, I'm not good enough for the Tuesday show. Okay, I'm going to go sit over here. Doughboy got on him. Like, you just accepted him. Doughboy was getting on his helmet. Like, I wouldn't have accepted it. I would have kicked, like, I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, he would have accepted it. But, hey, but see, that was the entertainment part, though. Yeah. Doughboy was popping his shit. He was popping it. But it's okay. The lion got his voice back that day. I hear a lot of lion that day.

1:03:02Man, shout out to Doughboy. Shout out to Ricky, man. Shout out to him. I'm about to check it out and do some reactions. Yeah, we're going to reformat it. I want to do the thing where it's like after each question, the judge do the votes instead of the whole section. Because he was like, man, what the fuck did they even say during, you know what I'm saying? You was like, I don't even remember that shit. Because you went so long. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. We got to like tally it up. Like, okay, after that question, what do the judge vote? I was going to be fair with that. You know what I'm saying?

1:03:26We got to break it down more. Because I had Ricky winning, and then we did the last one. Yeah. And then, like, boom, the last one, it was, like, shorter, and I was able to go through each question, and Dope Boy answered the questions better. Yes. So I got a question for y 'all. How did y 'all, was the contestants? Man, just worry about the next time. No, no, no, hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because if you ain't trying to squabble up, I don't want to hear it. If you ain't trying to get in the paint, I don't want to hear nothing. I don't want to hear that. If you're not trying to be the next opponent to get in the paint, I don't want to hear none of that.

1:04:01When you're ready to get in the paint, because you've been popping. You got to get a couple of bodies. I ain't got to get a couple of bodies. You ain't got no bodies. You ain't got no one-on-ones. Yeah, you got to get in there. Like, listen, you got to get in the paint, bro. You can't just spill this high horse and you ain't knocked off nobody. Not a one-on-one. You ain't knocked off nobody, so you can't make no decisions. Yeah, Flacco brought you in, bro, so I don't know if that's a good sign. When you get in a painting and you whoop somebody out, head up, then I'm like, all right. You ain't did that yet, though, neither.

1:04:30Look, listen, listen, listen, listen. We listening? Knock down at least one nigga. Hey, you crazy. You sound crazy. You ain't knocked down. You ain't knocked down. You ain't walked down. You know. What was you going to ask, though, about the four-man show? Oh, yeah. Was both of the contestants, I mean, both of the Potters, they had the questions before? No, they neither want to. I sent them to him in the morning. Neither one of them looked at it. I'm not going to lie. I can tell neither one of them looked at it. Yeah, yeah, when I got here. So that's why I want to know. He's not doing random questions.

1:04:59Nah. I went live the night before, and I'm like, damn. He's got to practice. I mean, what would you? Because you could ask some type of pop coach. I would be prepped up. Yeah, like, I don't even know what you're talking about. I'm going to have every pop coach. I don't need. If it's a debate, nah, if it's a debate, you could ask about George Jefferson. Or something, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Come on, bro. No, for sure. You want to prepare yourself. That's why I don't even make sense. You're going to lose. Program times 40. Shout out Quimax. Program times 40. You better be doing his push-ups.

1:05:30I want you to get a scrimmage in with somebody else first. You sound crazy, bro. You ain't even scrimmaging with nobody. I don't need to. That's what I'm saying. So what are you talking about? We need a jamboree. We need a jamboree. Bro, I'm telling you, it ain't that easy, bro. It's not that easy. Straight off the bat, they go pot. I already called him out. It's up to him. Marty said I'm in the paint. Yeah, we're going to have the format all set up. It ain't that I'm turning it down. That's exactly what you're doing because you ain't accepting. You ain't accepting. You ain't accepting. For you to feel like you this much.

1:05:59I think that's crazy. You ain't about to press me like you did Doughboy to a fight. You don't want to sign the contract. He pressed me. Doughboy pressed me. He the one called me out. I want you to get a body under your belt. You got to get a body. Listen, just let me know. Listen, if we bring in a hint, Remy, if you Remy, I'm Remy. If you cut water, I'm cut water. If you sober, I'm sober. Hey, I'm doing it in portions. You notice I ain't just, right? You ain't chugging it. Half the bottle gone. Was that fresh? Did you crack it? Half of it was gone when he pulled up, but I don't know if that was drank today.

1:06:34I want to be the same state of mind as you, though. I had this at the house before I - Bless the bottle. I had this at the house already, but look, bro. You want to go with Rios first, bro? Because I want Rios. We trying to pin y 'all against each other. Hey, look, bro. I called you out. Ain't no, you give me the little homie the face. I'm in the paint. No, I'm not trying to. No, we not doing that. I thought you said I called you out. See? Listen, listen. You trying to get somebody else. I'm trying to squabble up. Yeah, he is. He's nervous. He is. He is. He is. He is. He is. He is. You're nervous.

1:07:09I just said one or two at a time, bro. You trying to lure homie me. No, no, no. Handle my lightweight. Handle my lightweight. Yeah. Yeah, no. We in the paint. Dig it lightweight. Handle my lightweight first, dig it. Hey, he trying to trade the boy. Which one of y 'all down moves want to put his... Which one of y 'all down moves... You got to put in your own work. You got to put in your own work around here, homie. You got to put in your own work around here, Munchy. Radio. Can we get this in writing? No jumpers. You got to put your own work around here, Munchy. Okay, after I smash Spuddyface, he can't power battle nobody else.

1:07:45He's got to sit down. You sound crazy. He's a timeout. Likewise here. I accept that challenge. No, no, no. Timeout. Because I tried to star you out, bro. You ain't got to star me out. Give me everything I got coming. I don't want to pass. No, I'm going to put you on the... I don't want to pass. No, we need... That's two titans. That's two titans going to battle. You sound crazy. I'm being listening. I'm being listening. There ain't no titan. You don't have to remember me. You sound crazy. Man, listen. You gonna see me, nigga. I think I got that one easy. All right, look, look, look. Man, put that pole up.

1:08:16Man, put that pole up. Who they think gonna win, Spody or Munchy? Munchy, Spody. Hey, we gonna win it on the part-off, and then we gonna set it up. Hey, it's so cold. He just walked in and said they gonna build a brand new set for that shit. Yeah. We got a set coming. See, we doing this right now, the part-off. We just niggas creating something, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they got all the gloves hanging in the background? Oh, shit. Yeah, you already know. We gonna have the gloves hanging like - inspirational posters on the back and shit. Hey, no, no, no. Let's do it up. On everything. No, no. Hey, look, look, man.

1:08:46We're going to do it up. You know what I'm saying? It's good for the culture. You know what I'm saying? It'll be a little bit more structured next time. Yeah, for sure. We're going to have a Kiwi and a Damu going power battling. I'm going to do them in. But it's all good, though. Friendly battle. Friendly battle. It's all, you know what I'm saying? Black Lives Matter at the end of the day. I know this chat got me fucked up. Y 'all better start voting for Spuddy. It's 77 % Munchie B right now. Hey, hold up. Hold up. Y 'all ain't got no love for Sporty Luther King? I'm out here on the West Coast.

1:09:14Y 'all ain't got no love for Sporty Luther King? In my sick night voice. With the Kiwais in attack? Hold the fuck. Hold up. The Cripsaw District ain't in here? Yeah. And it's way more Crips in California than Bloods. Keep it up. Say, man, not nice enough. Man, listen, man. Listen. It is starting to get up. The Crips like Kuh. Hold up. On the West Coast? On the West Coast? Y 'all didn't tell me y 'all ain't got no love for Sporty Luther King? Hey, the Crips like Kuh got it. No, no, they ain't doing that. Ain't no Kiwe's in the chat right now. They ain't saying it right now. The Dom Moose ain't got no love for Sputty Face.

1:09:43Oh, hello. That's crazy right now. Oh, they doing that on purpose. We got to take the chat out the crazy. When we do that, don't do Ricky on it. Ricky! Ricky! Nah, hell no, kid. But guess what? Yeah, hell no. If we got two people under the roof. Nah, nah. And then the chat could be the timebreaker. Nah, hell no. The judges will be waiting for him. I see how this going down. Even the tiebreaker, you know exactly where the chat gonna go though. Yeah, but at least - All the IFGs, you see all the motherfucka IFGs? You got about 50 homies in this motherfucker. You been putting everybody on. Oh, hell no.

1:10:16All the homies, they getting hood, they fits together. They not even watching. They not even watching. Nah, they watching at the park. They watching that Derby right now. They watching that signal right now. They watching. They tuned in. Nah, they tuned in. Hey, take that shit down, bro. Take that shit down. Nah, fuck it. Take that shit down. 70-30 much. I told you, radio blacks. Radio! I tried to be humble. I told you to come back later after you know - No, don't do that because it's a poll. We ain't got to pay. He told you. This biased-ass po, nah, hell no. I told you to come back later. All this red shit in the chat, oh nah.

1:10:49You talked all that crazy shit. How many times you'll call me out for a faint, I'm like, nah man, no. Nah, we're gonna get in the paint. Nah, we're still gonna get in the paint. But this chat, that's crazy right there, chat. You know what I mean? That's crazy. The chat go do what the chat do. Yeah, we got it. All these Brim figures and red dots and B teams. They dropping blood drops. That's crazy. Look, what you're going to do is everybody's going to write three topics. You write three topics, you write three topics. Throw that shit in the hat and pull that shit. I don't want to write nothing.

1:11:15Y 'all pick the topics. Nigga, Rios write three and you write three. Yeah, I went live the night before in the chat. With them blue stickers out of the chat. I'm not going to lie. With them blue stickers out of the chat, man. With them handicapped stickers in the chat. Nigga, I want Rios to write three and Moose to write three. I don't want no parts of it For Doughboy and Ricky I just went live We could even go live On No Jumper And have a whole Brainstorming session With the chat To help us Come up with topics Because that's what I did That's what I did Nigga we want Rio's Not burritos And we want motherfucking Moose man And not him You know what I'm saying Yep yep This shit about to be Tightened Nah yeah it's gonna be fire Let's get in some Of the super chats Hey man I just told you Man take that motherfucker Stupid ass shit down man Man take that stupid We could go ahead And end the poll And then let's pull up The super chats So we can see what they say Who told you to put that shit up in the first place?

1:12:04Take that stupid ass shit down. Take that dumb ass shit down, bro. They flooding the chat now. Now they is, man. With them handicap stickers out. I know they is there. Yeah, they in there. All these red dots and these B teams and all that. God, yeah, that's crazy. Respect cut. Man. Let's see what the chat had to say about that last, the pod off topic. Because I know they, bro, I've never seen that many. We got 10 times more donations on the Monday show for that last one than we ever had before. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, that's good. Pod. Crazy. This is what they want to see. Young OG. Young OG.

1:12:41That's what they want to see. Moose, my bad. Yeah, yeah. Young Triple OG,$4.99. Rios, you glaze whacked the whole episode. You ain't point out shit. I got to watch it. I got to watch it. C Hustle,$87.48,$5. Ricky was not even answering the questions. Munchie and Moose was biased. I didn't even vote. I didn't even vote. He was answering the shit. Some of them he was like, no, I'm not going to choose this or that. I'm going to give this answer, and that's what they mad at type shit. It was like A or B, and he said, I'm going to take C. JE31786, thank you for the gifted membership. FPS, Wolf,$5. Don't Ricky got dough on the Dirk trial because he roasted dough for getting his info from Ross videos?

1:13:16Then it turned out Ricky got his info from those videos too. Yeah, that was a contradiction. That's true. Cash, Sumo,$4.99. Y 'all can't even name anything informative at all that Ricky said. Doughboy 1, y 'all not potting for Munchie and the Edgars, you're potting for the chat. Hey, hold on, hold on. I concur. No, no, no, no. You didn't even watch it. I concur. You already lost the pot. He didn't even watch this shit. You didn't watch it either, nigga. So how do you do it? Oh, you won. I concur. No, he on his Doughboy. He on his Ricky. You on your Ricky. I'm on my Doughboy. Doughboy easy. He had a segment about the double XL cover.

1:13:54The three people that Ricky picked off the XXL cover, man, we more interested in. Super valid. Yeah, way more valid. But then when Doughboy picked his three, he went in-depth why he picked them. You know what I'm saying? I picked them good. Even though they not relevant with the rap shit, Lil Dicky do this, Yachty with the Nautica. He went more depth. So they both had good points, bro. I wasn't biased at all. I broke shit down to the letter of the law. Yeah, he was breaking it down to who had the better points, and I should have been the one that introduced, hey, Munchie, make sure you take in entertainment factor as well.

1:14:27Who's entertaining? Who's making you laugh? And I didn't tell him that. You said in the beginning you didn't. You said you would win on facts. Maybe not as much as you should have maybe, you know what I'm saying? Because you was focusing on the points. We had like, I don't know how many rounds. I didn't take entertainment in every round. I took entertainment overall. Like, okay, you know what I'm saying? They was both getting their WWE promos off. No, no, they did not make it their thing, bro. Yeah, they went crazy. Anthony Cruz,$92.27. $5. Ricky should have lost on the fact that he was on his phone and probably looking up stuff and not answering two questions.

1:14:58Oh, y 'all was letting him Google shit? I told him. I shut it down. I said, hey, let's keep the phone use. You got to keep the phones away. I think you got to turn your phone off or something. I don't know. You got to let him vote for himself in the chat. Vote for himself is crazy. Switch to like five burners and vote for himself. That's the W. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I think he was on his phone being nonchalant because he thought he wasn't a worthy opponent. pony i don't think he was looking enough for sure i think he definitely underestimated doughboy and that was a problem for ricky for sure he thought he was gonna clean doughboy up and doughboy had another thing ready for him you want to see somebody talk in circles and start one way middle different come back to another point at the end watch doughboy on the the raw i said yeah the raw way shit yeah i was like this dude know how to talk and not make no sense even the the dirt conspiracy he's like nah that's just fan speculation by the end he's like i think there's some validity to it though.

1:15:47You just said the complete opposite. And that's why I say he lost. You know what I'm saying? He wasn't making as much sense, but he was funny as fuck when he wasn't making sense. I'm not going to lie. You just be conflicted all the way through. But I'm for sure not watching Doughboy for any facts. No, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Nah. Jay Rich, 2-3, 4-99. Doughboy washed Ricky. He won every single poll. B-team. Poe. 25. Hold on, hold on. Yo, go ahead. When the Republicans and Democrats, they got the popular vote and the other one? The Electoral College vote. That's how this shit is. Yeah, and you're the Electoral College, Munchie.

1:16:22Yeah, you're the Electoral College. 2 ,500 for the box, 499. Munchie was biased. You didn't give Doughboy one round. Like, come on, it was so obvious. Doughboy won easily. Doughboy had to go against Munchie, Rick, and the Edgars. But Ricky had to go against The Chat. The Chat. Thousands of people. 3 ,000 people against him. I mean, that's only one vote, though. Yeah, that's true. There was only one. Sir KT vote,$619,$5. Y 'all need to have three people judge. The poll and the super chat's got to be another vote. Get your bag. Super chatter shouldn't be lumped up with the poll. That's a good point.

1:16:54Hey, maybe the super chatter should be the only votes. Yeah, I like that one where it's the poll and the super chat or something. Hey, join now, bro, because next go around, the super chatters, your vote, matter. Okay, that's a good point. I think that's a good point. Y 'all done taking into consideration the super chat? We wrote the super chatters in with the rest of the chat. The poll and the super chat, we kind of like was starting the poll as soon as we started reading the super chat so they could be like, okay, that's what the super chats are saying. I'm going to put my poll vote here. But you can't separate a super, like, members poll.

1:17:24No, no, I don't think so. No, no, no. So what I'm saying is. We just got, I think the super chat idea is good. I like the polls too. I don't know. We can do a members only chat, but I don't know. But that'll make the whole thing members only. I want to whoop his ass publicly. No, you can do just a members only chat. Bro, you're not going to whoop my ass. I want to whoop his ass publicly. You know what? I want to too. I'm waiting for this. If it's for members, I don't even want to do it. No, no, yeah, it's for the public. I want to have bearish blood in front of everybody. We got to do it. We got to do it.

1:17:50The whole landscape. We got to do it. You're not going to do it, though, bro. You can do a public video and only have the chat for members. Yeah, make it so only members can vote in the poll and shit like that. Okay, because I want the members. I think I got this in the bag. Easy money. I want the members vote to count. You know what I'm saying? And that doesn't mean y 'all need to. We'll deliberate. We'll deliberate on the format. We got to have a clock too though. This nigga get up here and be long winded and pop. Yeah, we was doing two minutes. We was doing two minute timers. Fuck you talking about?

1:18:20Tomorrow let me land. There's only one landing strip, nigga. You going to go to Malaysia in a minute? We need a helicopter landing path too. Nigga on the goddamn side. Nigga being long winded. You going to go to Malaysia in a minute, nigga. Nigga, take a breath. What you talking about? You know what I'm saying? Nigga, what? Hey, look, look, look. While we on this shit, Adam, Josh. Nigga, we need a munchie pack. We got a whack pack. That shit bunk. Yeah, we got this munchie pack. Nigga, nigga need a sporty pack, too. I ain't going to lie to you. That nigga bunk skunk. Nigga, hey, bro. I concur.

1:18:50I concur. It's the most expensive one, too. What? They paying for that? That's the most expensive membership you can get on that jumper. Oh, bring the munchie pack in. Come on. They got this ugly nigga. Oh, man. Fuck her. Witty NF8. Yeah, we're going to start something with this, munchie. I ain't going to lie. We're going to start something with this. Shout out to Witty with the$5. Why do the West Coast claim Pac when he was raised on the East Coast up until he was 17? This is the Adam argument. I think we kind of beat that. Hey, man, say this for Adam. Say this for when he get back, bro. Yeah, that's the Adam.

1:19:18He beat that like a dead horse. FBS Wolf,$5. We don't like Doughboys, so just let that show you how little we think of Ricky if we actually go through the pain of clicking to vote for Dough. Munchie's biased. I'm telling you. Hey, look, man, I don't like a lot of bitches, but when ain't nobody answering, she get a call. I'm going to beat them doonies down, bro. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Jay Rich, 2-3, 4-99. Ricky ain't even win the debate part. He kept backtracking his opinion and would carry out, blaming the chat. I think he made a misstep with the going too hard on the chat because that's just going to make the chat go harder.

1:19:52But he was saying that he was copying his answer, so he was changing it. Yeah, he did say that. Yeah. But ain't nothing wrong with having the same answer. It's how you answer it. Just have better reasoning. Right. For sure. Black Ox, 38-38,$5. Munchie B, top rank out my section. send hits. Bitch, I'm with the shit. The mayor. That part. AI memer man. Five euros. I think that is. Doughboy is a sad excuse for a human. 50 years old with a spine like a jellyfish. Only the pod because people just use him as a punching bag and it's funny on IGF. I think that's a type of... He got the turf fucked up.

1:20:28And then you know Doughboy got his dick back. He did. He's using it too, he said. Since his birthday, I know for a fact. I mean, hey, I can't be telling people business, but I know for a fact since his birthday. He's been knocking shit down. It hasn't been his worst day. Hey, and there's always that character, like Amos and Andy. There's always the pinky in the brain, like the funny, goofy. Yeah. No boy fit the part. There's only him up here that's like that. For sure. And like when Lush popped up on No Jumper at first when he was sober, he was on that. It wasn't until he started getting off the drugs when he started doing Biggest Joint on him.

1:20:59Hey, bro, I don't know if y 'all know what the word ye mean. Hey, look, bro. Yo boy, ye. In NorCal In NorCal It means something different Now here Y 'all be dissing people with it Look look look look Look look look look Look look look look look Look look look look look Doughboys are ye bro We can only talk about Doughboy That's hard That's no jumper We fuck You know what I'm saying Now Moose started that correct Yeah No but up north They was saying ye first Yeah we said ye They turned it out ye Or like Oh yeah I know that I'm talking about actually I'm talking about the hook Cause I remember when the homie Skied tweeted something About somebody being a ye Yeah My up north partners That they was jumping them On Twitter like Like, nigga, they, like.

1:21:34Yeah, because we just say, instead of yes, we say ye. Like, you pulling up ye. You know what I'm saying? It's just like that type of shit. They don't like that we say ye down here. Well, the Domus say ye down here. Like, negatively type shit. Negatively. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 804 Showtime, 499. Shout out to the cast. I haven't laughed this hard in a while. The Tuesday show is back. Side note, Moose, I'm talking about Spody, Munchy, and Rios. LOL, JK. Yeah, fuck you, buddy. Trey One, 8J, member for five months. I got Spody in a pot off. Def needs some restructuring But it's gonna be a good pod Free Brick 6-0 Put some money on it Man put some money on it I got some money Where your money at I got some money on that Where your money at Get this on one of them Couchy You know what I'm saying With the odds and shit Have people really betting I'm for sure about to win me some I'm about to win some Hey hey hey hey We got no No look We got no bias Judges no nothing For sure Yeah we gonna Choose the right judges There's a lot of people That's bias Ricky for sure Cause he gonna be You were biased Yep You were biased See what I'm saying See what I'm saying And I thought you'd be unbiased.

1:22:32That's why I asked you, Mungie. Listen, listen, listen. Who was biased? Your ass, nigga. Listen. He be forgetting that, though. The week leading up to this, I had my money on Ricky. But when I got here, when I was asked to be a judge, I just put my unbiased cap on. You know what? Look, he want to smile so bad. You don't believe that, bro. No, I think I just didn't establish the criteria is good enough. Don't let him give me your ass, nigga. That's not a mungie. Hey, can we say? I don't think Munchie came in like, oh, I'm rooting for Doughboy. Or I'm rooting for Ricky. No, he said he had Ricky.

1:23:06I think he's just saying if I had a bet on somebody, I think that Ricky's going to outpile Dough because Doughboy has been getting criticized for his potting. Munchie, you felt bad because you knew the chat was going to be against Ricky. You were saying it all the way leading up, too. Like, are you just worried about the chat? But Rios, that's what I'm saying moving forward. Let two people that's in-house be the judges and they be the tiebreaker because I know you got fan favorites at No Jumper. They give you a bad vote just because they don't like you. That's what just happened right there. When they did that bullshit ass ball.

1:23:36They put that bullshit ass ball up that dick. What the fuck did that bullshit ass? Prime example, because I'm more handsome, they picked me. You sound crazy. You sound crazy. You sound crazy. They all here. Man, you sound crazy. Come on, bro. We're going to restructure and it's going to be perfect for the next spot off. So you don't look like King Grandpa on Menace in Society? Nah, you sound crazy. You look just like King Grandpa. Man, you sound crazy. Are you trying to shoot? Ducktail control? You got to get out of here. The pot-off's already starting. Hold off, y 'all. Hold on. Yeah, we got to hold these.

1:24:13We going to say these to the pot-off. And we going to turn up. Yeah, we going to turn up, bro. I ain't going to lie. Hey, hold on. You always kicking that religious shit. Hey, nigga, you look... He's stupid. Save it for the pot-off. I got some shit to cut. I ain't going to lie to you. Yeah, he going to save the bullets for the pot off. All right. JE31786,$5. Does Doughboy's performance yesterday mean he's been packing it in the whole time? Ricky won. Shout out Moose. Shout out to you, brother. No, no, no, no. Ricky won, but he potted like his life was on the line. He showed what he could do. He showed what he could do.

1:24:48Man, he got it. I mean, he could get it. That's not a bad thing. No, listen. It's a terrific thing. If it's coming from me, it's negative, huh? I just said it's a good thing. I agree with you. I disagree with you. What are you talking about now? Nigga, you ain't bring Doughboy on your platform, nigga. I did. Listen, only fired up the McIntosh. Listen, hold on. I'm going to keep it a band. The only reason why I fired up the McIntosh is because you told me, hey, Smokey Face, I got some questions. Had it not been you, I wouldn't even fired up the McIntosh. I was on vacation. I was on vacation, nigga.

1:25:21You called me out. I was on vacation, nigga. Hey, Brody's still on the McInGurb. I still got the IBM. I don't even fire it up. Listen, I'm the only person who had Dope Boy winning, though. He did, he did. But unless he didn't win, bro. So, no, can we say this, though? He won a public vote. I won an electoral vote. Can we say this? Mike Tyson versus Buster Douglas? Yeah, but they thought it was going to be a blowout. Come on, bro. Everybody thought that. He shocked the world. He shocked the world, for sure. That lady got a different bag and Ricky got a ceiling. Yeah, but also, Dope Boy, why isn't he in his bag like that?

1:25:58All the time, you're getting paid to podcast on the biggest platforms. Everybody go run with your freedom or your life on the line. True, but you come in here every Tuesday and pause your ass off. You don't want to go to jail, you go run. Sometimes you got to get your swag back. He got his swag back. Yeah, the emperor got his groove back. He got his groove back. Your life. Greedo. Fuck Francie499 said he do not own the rights. Do some research before pre-talking Spoetic Bozo. It's your first Tuesday sheesh. Rice to what? Eat a dick. I think he's talking meat shit, probably BMF shit. He's definitely on it, but eat a dick.

1:26:28Dragonite Crip 499. Be careful about what y 'all decide, because do y 'all really want the Dragonites to get a vote, cuh? Shout out to Spody. Your return was needed, cuh. Oh, shit. The Dragonites. And Dragonite Crip is like a Mexican that looks like Zach Galifianakis. Hey, shout out to all the fans. Hey, shout out, Kyle. I'm out. You put up tomorrow's over. Money, I just got to get this week over, because I'm busy early in the week. The hood day tomorrow. Tuesday show today. You know what I'm saying? I'm on this full Spody face. We walking him back with a put on. Because he came for me. You the one said no.

1:27:01Now you're playing a victim. Hey, bro, I said anybody in this building. All right, though, boy. You the one said that. I said anybody in this building. And you called it out. You trying to deep on a nigga. You basically said ain't nobody on your level in here in the podcast. You was popping your shit. And I accepted the talents. You said 2v1. I said, I disagree. Why didn't no other host speak up? I disagree. Why didn't no other host speak up? Why, why, why, why? I ain't there. What Adam and Josh? I don't know. I'm in the paint. All I know, I'm in the paint. He ready to go. I'm taking it to the back.

1:27:31All right, listen. We're going to rack the bus. We're going to take it to the back. You know what I'm saying? Head up, face. If you drop, I'm going to let you get up. If I drop, let me get up. It's head up, face. Yeah, I'll let my performance speak for me. All right. I'm on 10 ice, nigga. I can't fuck up. Shadow Moses 994,$10. On IFG, Ricky got salty. It wasn't a landslide. Once you start yelling and going into insults, you already look emotional. Doe is a parasite, but he's fun to laugh at. Time for another 24-hour stream. And then patch notes, 00499. Hell, now, Munchie, we can diss Doe Boy. I'll never forgive him for saying he'd fire Moose, and Moose we trust.

1:28:07Moose is up 1 ,000. Let's go, Moose. Yeah, they're not feeling that fire and fire Moose shit, man. The Moose is rising up. I'm not going to lie. Watch out. Watch out, man. What should we get into? The 49er scammer or the dirt shit? Shout out to him. I think they said they wanted us to. Shout out to him. Because I think that's in the title joint. No, no, no. Let's knock that out because bro funny. The 49ers joint, yeah. Because there's a. Oh, you sent the video. You sent that video. I sent it to you and Ricky. The details just keep coming out and gets crazier and crazier. There's a video of him explaining to a bitch why he don't got money.

1:28:44Hey, hold on. Hey, send that video I sent to you and Ricky to the group chat so we can throw it up, bro. So, do y 'all got another video? Yeah, there's one video. It looks like on the No Jumper page. Let me, I can send that other one, though, for sure, out the group chat. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, I'm going to send it to this Instagram. Okay. The one I sent to Rios and Ricky. Send it to the group chat or send it to the Instagram? Send it to where? That Instagram. Okay. I'm not in the group chat. So, yeah. Damn, I got you saved in the group chat as somebody. You not in there? I thought you was in that group chat.

1:29:18I'm not going to lie. You got kicked out for having a bad take? I was never in there. Oh, for real? Damn, I got people in there mixed up. That's probably his brother. His brother's in there. Yeah, his brother's in there. It's probably the switcher. The sledge? No, no. Yeah, send us the sledge lords, that Instagram sledge lords. I'm going to tell you what's funny, bro. I reacted to that shit. He said, yeah, Nathan just tripped on Kyle. I think the Eggers bought the back.

1:29:48They was on there. That shit was funny. They was on there. Who was the cat in the back that was like, don't worry, I'll keep it entertaining? That's some random dude that's never been here. That was Bo Jackman's homie. Who was that? I'll keep it entertaining. Just some random dude. He's never been here. He never podcasted. Who the fuck is it? As we all said, we all like Nam. We all like Nam. Who the fuck is that? I told Bo, I said, hey, bro, you got to leave Brody at home next time. I'm not going to lie. He was a little thirsty. I'm not going to lie. You're like, hey, go check it out. Yeah, I did.

1:30:19I did. I said, nah, you ain't finna be up here alone, bro, on the mic. Just fucking doing it up on stream, getting your promo. Yeah, shout out to bro. I said, go see if they fighting or not. Report back. Shout out to you, bro. Hey, no, no, no. Send that, Rios. That's funny. This nigga. Hey, bro, lying is an illness, bro. Yeah, he was going crazy, bro. It just keeps getting crazier. What's higher than pathological? Yeah, I don't know. That has to be like Rios was saying. It's a mental defect when you can lie like that. You feel me? But he did rack in 1.3 million. Okay, we got the video. We got the video.

1:30:57Let's see what we got. So 49ers, obviously fake 49ers, Rams player. He's claiming every team. I'm like high key. No, he said Rams, 49ers. Stressed. Like I really don't know what to do because my car that I had bought, it was a little bit more than what I had okay so the bread that you gave me then plus I had some bread and cash and then I had to check that that you seen you probably didn't see how much was on there but I had to check that you seen the cash that I had in the cash that you gave so the car that I was initially getting for was like 120 but the one that I ended up getting it had like different things to it so it was like four five thousand dollars more so what I told them was was like listen I'm gonna just go ahead and give y 'all that extra four five thousand dollars once everything gets situated which was supposed to have been last week or at the very latest the beginning of this week and they was like alright cool because obviously ain't no fucking deal ain't nobody especially no fucking car dealership with 40 50 plus cars don't turn down no fucking hundred plus thousand dollar deal over four five thousand dollars they have like all right they will just get it to me as soon as possible but the issue now is is that when you don't have all of that bread in there's a certain deadline so the bank will say or they'll say in this situation let me break it down a little bit more the bank is what finances dealerships right so the bank will loan the dealership two million dollars the dealership will go buy a bunch of cars and then they have to pay the bank back that's how it works with dealerships so the dealership don't just own the cars the banks do the banks own the dealerships so anyways in my position when the four or five thousand dollars ain't come up by that deadline the bank will hit the dealership up like yo we need the rest of the bread otherwise we'll cancel the deal then the dealership will hit me up and say listen john we need to break the rest of the bread otherwise it's not up to us no more the bank is going to cancel the deal so that's the point that i'm at now so they was calling me yesterday but i didn't yo like another one right here yeah it's like one of those things where you just keep talking and shit i just need you to ask anybody you know to borrow some money oh yeah let's just watch a couple more seconds i just told them i was going to be and practicing shit.

1:33:35Then they call in today. So with me being who I am and having my credibility, I don't want it to look bad as if I'm ducking and dodging these niggas because I might need another car and the bank might happen, just so happen to own the fucking dealership that I need a new car from. So I just want to make sure everything is cool. And I don't know when my car is coming, so it's not like I can say, oh yeah, it'll be by this week. When it was supposed to be in by last week or at the worst case, the beginning of this week. So I'm stressed out because if they pull the deal, that's going to make me look real bad and I can't have that.

1:34:11And obviously they don't have to fucking take the car. And as you know, the other fucking car is stolen. So I just need you to take 10, 15 minutes and just think about like who you have that can loan you $4 ,000 just until the end of this week. whoever it is whether it's a whoever whatever it is you gotta tell them cool but I know for a fact my shit has to beat it by the end of this week but the bank they are not going to wait hey that nigga yeah he got the Rams gear on this one Rams? I remember I was trying to fuck with you when I was fucking with the 49ers in the bay but now I'm in LA playing with the Rams So that's crazy.

1:35:03It's been a minute since I talked to you. I was trying to fuck with you and what's crazy Is I guarantee you you still doing the same shit If you would have been fucking with me you would have been in a whole nother ballgame by now at this point, you know So that's crazy But it's crazy. I remembered your number. I don't even got your number saved But my offer still stands, you know, I still think you were attractive. We would look good together you know I'm saying so So let me know what's new with you and shit like that because I know we ain't talked in a minute. So, yeah, let me know what's new.

1:35:38Hopefully we can jump on a FaceTime call or something and catch up. Like I say, source, Dajon love that dude. So if some people are asking who this is, this is the fake 49ers player. I never knew about the Rams shit. Yeah, he was a few teams, so he pretty much defrauded. I think it was over 25 women. Is it only two? Is it only two? I think. I'm not sure. I know for sure Rams and 49ers. I think he said something about the Buccaneers or some shit maybe too. But he got 1.3 million out of like 25, 30 women. Yeah, 26 women. And, you know, defrauded them. And now he's going to prison for it because he was telling them, you invest in this, you give me some money, you're going to get this return in six months.

1:36:16You're going to get all these hundreds of thousands. And none of them ever got anything. My whole thing about, I mean, it's not right, but what's the difference between him and women selling men a dream and none of them never go to jail for that. That's my only thing. Like, where's that energy for that at? Like, you know what I'm saying? He finessed them. Because when you start manipulating them into investing in this and talking about you going to get this back after they make a deposit, now it was the law is involved. It was like fake bait statements and shit like that. I get what you're saying.

1:36:51Like, women are like selling dudes. Like, I'm in love with you. You know what I'm saying? Selling dudes? No, no, no. I mean, not necessarily. Not necessarily even to when women get to invest in their bodies, you know what I'm saying, in their careers and all type of stuff like that. It never, when a man try to go to court or, you know what I'm saying, say something about it, the first thing to judge there are people say, oh, it was a gift. Yeah. They always write it off as a gift. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Start that from the top again. All right, so it's a lot of stories out there. So to me, it's one and the same.

1:37:20Just like you just pointed out, like, Basically, he's saying invest in this and you're going to see a return and all that. So what women are doing, you have women scammers out here. What they'll do is, like, say, for instance, on my IG model, I'm trying to pursue an acting career, you know what I'm saying, or a modeling career. They'll say invest in my boobs, invest in my backside or whatever the case is, or get these headshot photos. Tummy tuck, whatever. Yeah, whatever the case is. And they'll do this, you know what I mean, or pay for this photo shoot or whatever the case is. I need this, such and such, whatever my dream.

1:37:50Pay for this schooling. You see it all the time. I need my tuition paid for or anything. But when the men try to go after them the same way, they just write it off as a gift. Most judges like, oh, no, that's silver. You know what I'm saying? Then when they go silver, try to get up and suit, they're like, oh, it was a gift. But now that the men did it, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, to me, it's different standards, bro. Like, it's different standards. Wait, wait, wait. Let me ask. So if I'm here, so what is the return on it? The return on what? The girl scamming the dude. With the boobs.

1:38:17She promising something back. I guess like maybe like the career. No, no, no. Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad. This is practice. Let me go. Are you still telling me? Yeah, no, I definitely thought I explained it, but since I get more into depth, it's like, so as far as them selling them a dream, like, number one, we supposed to be together, you know what I'm saying? So you're going to resell it. All this is going to be yours. Selling the commitment. Commitment also, me being, you know what I'm saying, an actress or whatever, becoming whatever, I won't. Once you get me to this certain point, you're going to benefit from all this.

1:38:50And some of them are even promising returns on the money and stuff like that. You know, once I get my degree, you know what I'm saying? They literally signing promissory notes and all type of stuff. And they just like, oh, well, you know, this is a gift. Permission to respond? Yeah, go ahead. You have the floor, sir. You want to rebuttal? Because that was just a question. Yes, sir. Oh, go ahead. No, that wasn't a question. You just answered. No, Rios asked me a question. Rios asked me a question. No, you answered a question. Yes. He just asked me a question. What are you talking about? Can I respond to that?

1:39:21Yes. Yeah, go ahead. Okay. One is a lie. Okay. Which part is a lie? The woman is lying to a man, right? And then the other one is a scam. That's not a scam? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What this fake 49er player did. It's John Love. John Love, he's a con artist. He scammed somebody. What the woman, you're describing the situation, it's a lie. It's a scam You misleading somebody You're lying And you misleading Explain to us Explain to us the difference So you pay for my titties And my ass to get done And Nicki Minaj She gonna have me airy video She gonna pay me top notch Fucking lie Right But how's that Now you got this NFL player Give me this money Boom And you gonna get this Push back Now you're scamming The same way The same way My boy DJ Envy is in trouble right now because he got crossed in the middle of some shit.

1:40:25Yeah, with the housing shit. So, so, so, so, so. Can you differentiate the two, though? Because I don't think me or the chat can really differ. What you're saying is Don't look at chatting this. I'm just saying to the people. Just speak for yourself, brother. I'm trying to understand, though. You're saying one is a lie and one is a scam. They both have the intent to milk the people out of as much money as possible. They both get milk. They both get milk. But one is against the law and one is not. It's not against the law to lie. But when you, when there's an intent to benefit financially from that lie, it is.

1:40:56It's called a posi scheme and all type of other I'm just letting you know the difference, brother. How? Because one is against the law and one is not. So how is, how is... So if a bitch say, you get my ass done and my titties done, Nicki Minaj's gonna have me in all her main videos, Drake will be in it too and I'm gonna be the main bitch. When I become famous, rich and famous, you're gonna... So you pay for the ass and the titties and never kind of flourishing. All she's doing is fucking. Versus, this nigga said, give me this money. You know what I'm saying? It's a scheme. Posi scheme. It's a scheme.

1:41:28And boom, you'll get, give me a... What about the women who's telling her to pay for my education, pay my tuition? You'll get$600 ,000 back. And now, it's against the law, bro. Anything over$10 ,000 is against the law, bro. But that's what I'm trying to say. It's women that do that too. It's a whole lot of instances. Women's the biggest liars on earth. We know that. I agree. I'm telling you the difference, though. I still don't see the difference because if they Hey You see the difference of what he's saying? Yeah, just because like I know what you're saying No, but he's taking that one instance Basically like a lot basically like Oh, just pay for my ass and my titties Nikki Benazza If you pay for my ass and my titties Nikki Benazza is going to put me in a video I'm not talking about that That's definitely a lie But what I'm saying Like when you invest in me This is my career And then once I get on You know what I'm saying I'm going to give you this money back Or pay my tuition Once I become a lawyer Or become a doctor You know what I'm saying And they don't even be in college You know what I'm saying that's a scam as well.

1:42:18They're definitely scamming. I think it's just like morally it's the same but I guess in the eyes of the law unless you show me these falsified bank records and these fake businesses he added another level for sure. I'll give you an example. Morally it's the same shit but look, that's his bank account. His fake bank account. A young lady seen the content that's done on Street TV with Alex Alonzo. She tapped in. They got on the line and the lady, you know what I'm saying? I guess she was one of Snoopy badass significant others in the past or whatever, a present, whatever it is. One of his baby mamas.

1:42:51I believe a baby mama. She asked, Alex Alonzo, do you think he's about to get signed? Right? He's like, get signed? Yeah, if not, he owe me some money. He lied. He can't go to jail for that. He lied. Bro, on my daughters, this is a real story. A girl that's one of his baby mamas tapped in And asked this nigga Do you think he Do he got a chance to get making it Getting signed Because then he like Getting signed Like cause if not he owe me some money I don't know What the fuck he told this girl Oh he's saying Oh my daughter Front me some bread Cause I'm about to get signed And I could get you back Now that's a lie Now versus I get money from us buddy face I said hey look bro Uh Know what I'm saying I'm about to invest this Into this account Know what I'm saying It's gonna gross this amount over time and then give me nine months, I'm going to give you this back.

1:43:44I'm breaking the law now. It's a difference. It's a lie and it's a scam. Hold it right there. So what's the difference between him showing them fake bank statements and basically saying, look, this is the money. I have money. I just need this amount of money. Because that's basically what Moose said and what they said. They got it on the screen. So tell me right now, what is the difference between him showing them a fake bank account statement, a fake bank statement to get money versus a woman showing him a fake degree or a fake enrollment. Fake degree? Just listen for a second. A woman showing him a fake degree or a fake enrollment or photoshopping her in school and saying, pay my tuition when she's really not in school.

1:44:22I need to continue this in order to get my degree. What is the difference? There's no difference in my personal opinion. Because one is conning and one is catfish. Okay? How? When he knows who she looks like. Because if she took a picture in a cabin gown, Okay. Or a rolled up paper, because all our papers is blank. A rolled up paper. That's not catfish. Nigga, you got catfish. That's scamming. I'm not talking about catfishes when somebody look a certain way. You think they look a certain type of way. You said, nigga, a picture of a degree. I could send you a picture of anything. Exactly my point.

1:44:58Exactly my point. So what is the difference between him showing them a bank statement, a fake bank statement, and them showing a man a fake enrollment in college to get money that they're not even a part of. It's all a scam. Okay, Doughboy, you ain't did your research because you know this man. I'm not Doughboy. No, because this man got a code offending. Somebody was helping him defraud these people. He had the little Asian kid. He was 14. Answer the question. What is the difference? We're going away from the question. What is the difference? I've been said the difference about five times, man.

1:45:33You haven't. You're going away from the question. You're talking about catfishing. I only know. I only know. Yes. It's illegal to lie, intentionally lie about going to college specifically to convince another person to give the money for tuition. Then takes the money and never intend to attend it. It's called, to establish that first or whatever, it's called the false pretense. And there's a nurse on TikTok, a fake nurse on TikTok just got exposed that she was like getting a bunch of donations to go to nursing school and she never was going to nursing school. That's by false pretense. Come on, all of it is by false pretense.

1:46:04That's what I'm saying. But men don't get held to the same thing. In that instance, yes, but I think on the regular, like, buying BBL and shit, you're not guaranteed a return. You're in a goalpost, bro. But I'm not talking about just fixing your bitch up. I'm talking about when they talk, oh, da-da-da-da-da, I'm going to give you the money back and all that. Women do this all the time. They talk about give me the money here, invest in me, and I'm going to give you the money back. I'm not talking about you just tricking on a bitch. There's a difference between tricking and you getting scammed, bro.

1:46:28I'm not talking about tricking. In reality, I know more of reality shit where you invest in a bitch and it don't work out. Yeah, I get that. Like, this is my bitch. This is my wifey. She going to nicey. But you're giving a hypothetical evidently because I don't know too many bitches that didn't did that. It's all out there. It's all out there. They photoshopped themselves. I know bitches a lot about getting abortions and getting the money. For sure. That$200. I know about that. That's a scam. That's a scam. So you wouldn't consider that a scam? Yeah, that's most evident. But our return on investment is the abortion that's fake.

1:46:59Not like, I'm going to get$500 off of it. I guess that's what the, in the eyes of the law, a lot of times they're like, you need that monetary guarantee. I'm talking about, do you call a woman that say, hey, I'm pregnant. I need a thousand dollars to go get an abortion, but she was never pregnant. Is that a, is that not a scam? Yeah. I don't know if that, I'm sure you can make the argument that. They have to prove fraudulent intent though. Yeah. She's texting her friends like, I'm about to scam this motherfucker. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. I don't know how that.

1:47:26That was a good debate. That was a good precursor. That was good. That was good. practice for you my brother i don't need no i'm gonna get a shot off the bus i'm gonna get a shot off the bus with you bro hey i love you my brother you my brother bro hey hey i'm gonna whoop you virtually bro i got this bro i got this i'm gonna whoop you virtually yeah i'm a matter i'm a matter whoop you i ain't worried about none of the other did y 'all see bro running the routes in the 49ers helmet in the sand. Women do that all the time, though. Fake caps is fake. Hey, man, you're going to lose bitches, bro. You got to leave it alone.

1:48:04I fuck with you, bro. You're going to lose the hold. You sound crazy, bro. That's there. They there. Man, I don't give a fuck. What do these bitches do to a ball? Yeah, they just dropped this mug shot, bro, looking crazy. I wonder how long that type of charge they could hit him with type shit. Because he went crazy. Yeah. And think how famous he's going to be when he gets out. Why he ain't out already, though? Because he ain't got it. He asking for$4 ,000 from the bitches and spent it all. No, but I think. What is this bail? Do bail work different with the feds? I think you need collateral. You need to own something.

1:48:35He's busted by the feds. No, no, he must ain't got a bail. They must ain't. He ain't bust ain't. 35-year-old is taken into custody, Idaho. Accused of allegedly stealing more than$1.3 million. That's where he from? No, it says taken into custody in Idaho. Why he look like Sephora right there? He was trying out for a team in Idaho. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He look like Sephora. He had a workout in Idaho. So, you know, that's why he's out there type shit, type shit. Shout out to Lyricus. Should we check out the Super Chat, see what they're talking about, the fake 49ers guy? He was going crazy, bro. Yeah, like Rios was saying, he going to get out.

1:49:06Netflix is going to get with him. They're going to interview him for the doc. You know what I'm saying? He's going to be getting a bag when he gets out for sure. The Tinder Swindler, bro. Yeah. That nigga was what? He ran up multiple mils. Check out Tinder Swindler on Netflix, bro. He was getting like the rich women and bleeding them for like hundreds of thousands each and shit. And leaving them broke. Yeah. Leaving them on their ass, crying. That's so hard, bro. That's so hard. Had them all in love. Bro, hey, bro. When you go home, watch Tender Swindler, bro. You said something about that the other time.

1:49:35I think it's the George Bush joint. You still like, why is he doing it? It's been two days. I didn't watch it. Tender Swindler. Yeah, that's the OG scammer for sure. George Bush, 33, 499. Munchy, you the goat, but on the set, you voted Ricky every single round. Why don't you guys realize how important it is that we don't like Ricky? What the fuck? No, no, no, no. It was a tie one round. It was. Yeah, it was. What are you talking about? And the last round, you went with Doe, to be fair. The speed round. I went with Doe the last round. It was a tie one round, bro. Speed round, too? The last one, because we was running out of time.

1:50:04So I just did a quick little like, you know. Hey, Chatter, bro. Too much pontificating. I don't never curse the chat, bro. Yeah, we going to have the timer. Hey, bro, you got to be on homework, Chatter. Yeah, the chat's undefeated. You can't beat the chat. Too much pontificating. You got to be on homework, B-Team. For real, for real. Comptown B9X,$19.99. The difference is the banks are involved in one, whereas the other is just a man tricking off. Why are you paying that girl's tuition if you don't need that$2 ,500 for the box? Spody. Man, set your bitch ass up, Jack. I don't know what the fuck about that.

1:50:34You don't know what the fuck you're talking about because you dropped$20 on me. You right, nigga? Damn. Comptown with a 40 ball,$20 more. Comptown B9X says, Adam is scamming me right now. He told me if I invest in the super chats, I get to join the group chat. Hit me, bro. You pay me enough. I'll put you in there. On B10. Hey, DM me. I'm going to ask you, bro. I'm like, this Nathan I'm adding. He got a new number, and it's just a chat member that paid me. Shoot me the bread on B10. Don't worry about it. C Money, 1099, 999. When you promise to pay the money back or promise somebody to make money, it's a scam.

1:51:06Women make us trick with no intentions of getting the money back, and we go with it. Spody did introduce a scenario where they was asking. I ain't talking about tricking. If you just sweet dicking and just giving the bitch some money. Yeah, you don't deserve nothing. You can't take her to court. But if she's lying to you about what she's doing is what. You can't repo the BBL. And that's what I initially introduced on my initial point. I said when it's men in this scenario, they always say it's tricky. Like it's a gift. When it's a woman cry wolf, you know what I'm saying? They take it more seriously.

1:51:34And the law men are always going to get harsher sentences and all that. That's proven for sure. I'm going to make this 10 seconds, bro. I got an example yesterday, bro. I probably shouldn't even went to the pen, bro. but I had a robbery. I had to drop down a great theft person because I was in the hood. A nigga asked about some weed. I'm like, all right, I took his money. And I took it. I received his money. I pushed off. And then an hour later, I got bumped up. I went to jail for robbery because I never came back with the weed. Bro, that was not robbery, okay? But then I later called a gun cage, and I had to run a concurrent to go to the pen.

1:52:07If it wasn't for this nigga lying to me, I robbed him. Because weed wasn't even legal like that then. So you don't think taking somebody's money and not returning? That's not a robbery. You definitely ran off on him, though. You didn't steal it? It's a difference between stealing. Nigga, you trying to buy some weed? That's illegal, nigga. Yeah, but it's a difference between if he was sleeping, you took it out of his pocket, but you'd have been stealing. But since you took it with forcing intimidation, you basically debunked him. That's called robbery. He handed it over willingly in the belief that you were going to have a return on his investment.

1:52:39He solicited me. Nigga, he gave me his$20. He trapped me this crazy. I just didn't come back. Yeah, you're Dajon Love. I just didn't come back. You promised him weed and you didn't give him a return on his investment. Nigga, he sought me out. He sought them out. He said he sought me out. Nigga, he asked me, did I know? And I said, yeah. He gave me his punk ass$20. I never came back. Damn. He told the police I robbed him. I got bumped up an hour later with the jail for robbery. I'm like, I was in a station still lost. Okay. Now, that, nigga, weed wasn't even illegal then, bro. There was no dispensaries.

1:53:16So, nigga, nigga, why are you lying? But he didn't say, he just said, I took his$20. He didn't say it was for the weed. It was one of those situations on cops where the bitch tried to buy crack and the dude ran off with her money. And when the cops came there, she told him, she said, I. Oh, I seen that. Yeah. I seen that. He said, it's crazy. I was my buddy for some crack. They said, what? Yeah. She would have told the truth like that. Yeah. 187 Hood Ave Remember for five months Munchie We gonna get on Blueface For that Chihuahua Peanut butter shit Or what Oh some new shit I don't know I didn't see that Man Blueface is losing bro Blueface is losing He getting his ass Ate and getting pegged Nigga Oh shit Do we wanna get on Bootyface Bootyface Huh Bootyface Hey bro you getting pegged Nigga You got two bitches In a row bro You got Creshawn And you got Navea Bosa And they lick your ass And put fingers in your butt Nigga fuck is you talking about?

1:54:09Chihuahua. Adam said that's not gay though if it's with your girl. Man, Adam don't count. Adam got transgender sitting on his lap. He got the gay nigga marking him off. At the party. Putting his dick on his leg. All that baby showers. Adam don't count in this conversation. We talk crippling blood. We talk about blue face and red face. While you capping 499, Spotyface is right. Women scam men as well and nothing happens. A lie to monetize or profit from is a scam. In the right pretenses, for sure. For sure. That's correct. Yeah, they lied, but lying is not against the law. Shout out, why you Kevin?

1:54:41Oh, you know, Kevin, like, okay, shit, they going to have a baby with a dude and promise that they about to have a family, and as soon as they have a baby, they bounce. They run off, put them on child support, run it out. Hey, hey, hey, how many niggas be in jail, I can't wait to go come home to this bitch and don't after all the money she done sent to him? That's scamming. So is he not going to jail for it? He already there. He already in jail. No, he about to come home, bro. Hey, bro. He making all the Thor Thurts feel like he's in love with him and shit? Because some women try to do it. You watch that - If that was against the law, I'll be shut out.

1:55:09What's the show where they get out in the - Man, 60 days in, first out of love or some shit. Yeah, first out of - They try to sue him and he's like, oh, that was just a gift. Hey, this is how I know you ain't got bitches if you ain't ever did it. So you ain't never lied to a bitch, had her under a pretense that it's going to be what it is and came home and it wasn't that? Spoty ain't got no harm. Spoty's smiling, yeah, we know the truth. Spoty's - I ain't never lied to nobody. I tell the truth. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. I tell the truth. No, Spuddy in a relationship. I tell the truth. Hey, sometimes you can't answer questions.

1:55:40I tell the truth. My bad, Spuddy. I don't put niggas in compromising. I tell the truth, man. No, no, no. Yeah, no, no. Spuddy got a bitch. He can't be answering no type of questions. My bad. We going to react to a clip of the Lil Durk shit? Is there any clips of it? I think that's the only thing that else is in the title. I think, what's the one? Free Dirt. There was one under one of them when he was talking about. Oh, that dude got pressed. Whoever that was. Oh, yeah. You want to get into that? I seen that come on my timeline, too. I didn't even look at that. Swamp Stories or the, yeah, let's do the Dirk one since that's in the title.

1:56:11The Vonnie shit. I don't like Swamp Stories, bro. Yeah, me neither. He sucks. He's showing up to the Dirk trial. But Adam was fake, though, because he sided with Swamp Stories over his boy Trap. He be siding with the white boys. Yeah, but then he tried to gas up on Trap's side against me. Yeah, another white boy. Yeah. Everybody and their mama at that trial, man. uh otf vonny testifies he muwap and two others got out of a track hawk shot at quando rondo and his crew in an attempt to kill him in georgia in 2021 got a was it a clip on the next slide or what oh no okay it's just a journalist otf vonny testified in court how he muwap and two others were in a track hawk vehicle got on uh foot and shot at quando rondo and his crew in blackshear Georgia in May 2021 at 3 a.m.

1:57:01Vonnie, what does it say? It says he does not remember the names of the other two people that are with him. OTF Vonnie testified yesterday, became less close with King Von after his father, Walter E. Bennett, was killed in 2005. He's just telling everything. All the information on shit. He's just volunteering. He said extra shit. The city in Georgia, Vonnie, OTF Vonnie, and he's one of the main shooters, him and Jam type shit. No, Vonnie was just passing out the guns and supplying the car. I thought the. No, Vonnie wasn't shooting that shit. I thought the OTF-like person was, the OTF manager dude, Brandon or whatever.

1:57:37It was Diddy's. It was Diddy's. Diddy's. But Vonnie was always the nigga that was in another car. Vonnie was the one that was parked like two blocks away. He always supplied the guns in the cars and shit like that. They said he had the most motive to do it because of Vaughn being his cousin. Yeah. And that was dark defense because this show cousin, when, you know, what's my boy's name? King Vaughn. King Vaughn got on a live. He said, how you let him get me? Why you let me get me? Yeah, and he loaded him in the car and he bled out like on top of him. And that was his last words to you. Y 'all had shared accounts.

1:58:15Y 'all lived together. So the defense is, you had more motive than me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they were saying he was filled with rage that day. He was filled with vengeance once he seen his homie get shot in front of him, bleed out on top of him in the whip and shit. And he acted alone to avenge the death. That's the defense that Dirk's leaning on. Okay, okay. Could I – do people agree that a person, if you related to this person, he died in your hands, he said, damn, why you let me – how you let them get me? Y 'all live together. Y 'all got shirt accounts. don't you think a person like Monty will have more motive to want to get some get back than Dirk?

1:58:52Dirk from Lamron. He's not even from O-Block, but they both BDs. They cool. They got a rap relationship later on because he put them on. But who got more of a motive to carry this out? Family and love-wise, Vonnie. Pressure-wise, on the internet, you ain't sliding for your dude, Dirk. Because 6ix9ine was on his ass. And everybody. All the white kids in the comments was on his ass. So you have different kind of pressure. You got pressure where you got to ride for your family like that. I'm going to ride for my family. But then Dirk had, they saying he had the pressure from the internet. And people saying, yo shit ain't serious if you're not taking care of this shit.

1:59:34And then Vonnie saying Dirk was hitting us like, man, they over there in LA looking too comfortable. You know what I'm saying? Like, why they moving around? Like, they just ain't looking over their shoulder or nothing. Like, put some pressure on their ass. That's what they trying to say Dirk was on type shit. Man, I'm going to say something controversial right now. Fuck it, man. Can you answer that first? What? Answer what? What was the question? You got Vonnie. you got you got dirt this dude that's his cousin they let together shared accounts he died he was dying in your hands like damn how you let let them get me and you drove him to the hospital this is your folks yeah who have more to do it that dude on the left this is your boy we both BD I from Landry you from O Block we both BD though I put you on with the rap shit we close but who got more to incentive to slide so me personally I think it's subjective because just because you related to somebody don't mean you had that same relationship.

2:00:30We don't know who they, you know what I'm saying, with it, with it. I just broke it down. Listen, you got to let me explain myself. You're going to ask me a question. To me, my personal opinion is subjective because at the end of the day is fuck with the internet and say you don't know that type of relationship or that's your family or whatever, but just because that's your family, another person outside of your family could really be your brother, brother. So, you know what I'm saying? So, in my personal opinion, how Lil Durk and how Von took him to the next level, and what to me and my personal opinion, if you want to ask me, I think it's Dirk.

2:01:02Because Dirk, he had, like, you know what I'm saying? You was just my brother, brother. This is my everyday. This is my twin. This da-da-da-da-da. You know what I'm saying? Like, you were all a business side. Dirk took Von to the next level. Von didn't take Dirk to the next level. No. So, so, so I'm saying. I disagree with that. Because he wasn't even signing. He wasn't even signing Dirk. Dirk took Vaughn to the next level not the other way around the world became aware of King Vaughn when he sat next to him and he pulled a chair up and nobody was even interested in him at the breakfast club I agree with that introduction Dirk took him to the next level I'm not talking about who he was assigned to the public perception was like Dirk was established without the Dirk co-sign there would be no King Vaughn So I'm not...

2:01:51I'll be with that for. It wasn't... This took that... No, no, no. He took Vaughn to the next level. Did Vaughn take him to another level street credit-wise? For sure. For sure. What? Absolutely, yeah. What? And his music. For sure. And his music-wise. He started turning up and he was trans at first. He was beneficial both ways. Dirk was certified, but Vaughn took him to another level of savage. You know what I'm saying? Street credibility and music-wise. Street credibility ain't nothing, bro. He wasn't rapping like that. We talking about accolades. Dirk would have been Dirk regardless. How? No, he wasn't Dirk regardless.

2:02:24The first album, that two-time - He wasn't even rapping like that, bro. If King Von would have got found guilty instead of coming home, Dirk would have still excelled and been on his way. Period. He been - Von added to the mystique. Like the mystique of like, oh, shit. No, no, no. Absolutely. He lost his major deal because he wasn't doing no units. No, no, no. Von added to the aura. Yeah, that's what - Yeah, aura like that. You got this shit. But listen, he took you to the next level. Nigga, Dirk would have been Dirk regardless. Nigga, as soon as he started fucking with King Von, they can be around each other after that.

2:02:58But he wasn't Dirk, though, Munchy. He wasn't Dirk. He was already signed to a major label before Von even got out. He lost his deal. He wasn't rapping like that. He wasn't talking like that. No, nothing. Listen, listen. We're on the Hip Hop Podcast. How many niggas lose deals and bounce back and get that second win? For sure. You're right, but you said he would have been Von regardless. And he was not Von. I mean, he was not Dirk until Von got out. Yeah, Dirk gave him the cosign. But nigga, when he got with Von, Von took him there, bro. He took him there, bro. He didn't have a Drake feature until he got out with Von and shit after that.

2:03:33They was fucking with Von, bro. They was fucking with him. He had to rap. No, you was fucking with Von. No, everybody was fucking with Von. No, the world, the world. Trap got him tatted. That's what I'm saying. What are you talking about? You said who? Trap got him tatted. Von was a Chicago legend. What are you talking about? I'm just saying. He's the one speaking to all the girls. That was grandson, bro. Hold on. That's what I put on. He said, trap got him tatted. Yes. You just put my point. I'm glad you said that. Nigga, we talking about niggas that have been on these platforms. Breakfast Club.

2:04:06Million dollars worth the game. Bro, he's headlighting. He's sitting on arenas, bro. How you going to say, nigga, the ying is yang and not the yang is ying? Bro, you're tripping. Niggas on the West Coast was not fucking with nigga. nigga Lil Durk before he started fucking with Vaughn. He was trash. Keep it up, man. That two-time C. He was in a pen. What's the shit that you was fucking with before Vaughn came out? He was in a pen. What was his shit? Niggas was fucking with Chief. Niggas was fucking with Chief, though. Niggas was fucking with Chief. Niggas was fucking with Reese. Vaughn had niggas on the West Coast.

2:04:35That's a fact. When Tiger, niggas wasn't even, when Tiger, he got into a Tiger and game, killed him. He wasn't talking like that. He was turned to him. Killed him? You mean when Durk Mark came out in the club? How? In LA? Oh God, bro. What? The Dirk y 'all have been on the scene. He apologized to Tiger because of game. This is a fact. What? I see. You believe in game? This is a fact. He apologized to Tiger because of game. Ass on Englewood family, bro. Dirk, mark the program out. Dirk was in LA. He got a apology to Tiger because of game. Bro, I mean, if you believe the hell on - He got a apology to Tiger because of game.

2:05:11Game was only. Look, look, look, look, look. Spotty face. He wasn't talking like that before Bond got out, bro. Niggas on the West Coast was not fucking with Von. I'm going to be dirt like that before he got with Von. That's a lie, bro. Niggas was not banging at Inglewood. Niggas was not riding around banging Lil Durk in Inglewood before Von got out. Name a song. Spuddy Face. Munchie B? There's two things I'm going to say. Name a song, Munchie B? Let him land. There's two things I'm going to say, right? You. Name a song, Munchie B? You is now part of media, right? At that point, you wasn't. So you looking at the headlines, the clickbait, and the weirdos that might be pro this person, so they reporting it that way.

2:05:52I'm not even. Man, the truth is the truth, bro. Nigga, Dirk was in the club with him and minimal people, and game didn't have that energy. Period. Okay? Now, moving on. What was the second thing you said? Back on the West Coast? Niggas was not fucking with Dirk on the West Coast as a whole until Vaughn got out. and then Lil Durk start rapping rapping different talking different and then he went he shot to the moon okay this is a fact he had a resurgence we was fucking with Keith though okay we was fucking with Reese Jojo Nim okay can I go go ahead now Durk had a start that was slow and he picked up at some point yeah when Vaughn got out that's what we're trying to say but his success Durk was signed to a major label bro bro his success is not credited to King Vaughn At all.

2:06:44It's major success. Majority of it, you ask the people, even in this hometown, they're going to tell you, yeah, it's Von. I was saying that. No, it can't. No, no, no. Bro, he started peaking around the time that Von got released. So it's just a coincidence. He started drilling shit and talking that talk when Von started getting out and talking that talk and went against the whole side rack, bro. He was not talking like that. He reached another level. It seemed like that, for sure. Come on. Moose keeping the bands. A lot of niggas got to pivot and find they shit. He was doing his thing. Then he got the Dirk and Dave thing going on.

2:07:14And then he went with the Vaughn run. Hey, bro, it have nothing to do with Vaughn. He helped Vaughn out, not the other way around. King, I mean King Dirk. Dirk would have been what he was regardless. And that's what I'm saying. We paused right there. You're right. You're right. He did give Vaughn a look. But Dirk wasn't Dirk. He wasn't this Dirk as we know it before Vaughn. Can you admit that? Dirk was not this Dirk before Vaughn got out. He did give Vaughn a look, Munchy. He did give Vaughn a look. I don't like to move goalposts. I'd like to stay right where it's at. I want to say that King Von is not responsible for his blast of success.

2:07:49He's not solely responsible for it. It helped a ton for the resurgence, I think. No, because Dirk got to do what he got to do. If there was no King Von, he would still be on the same level. No, fuck no. I don't think so. No, he wasn't even talking like that. That's what we're trying to tell you, Munchy. You couldn't have been listening to his music. We're doing too much pod news because of the pod battle. We're going to have enough pod left. Yeah, we're going to have enough pod left. Because he's wrong. You the only person who said you wrong, bro. Make this an issue right here. You wrong, bro.

2:08:15He wasn't even talking like that, bro. He wasn't even talking like that. That took this nigga on to Breakfast Club. One of the biggest platforms. Why? I'm not disputing that. Because he a real nigga. The same reason why it's a nobody ass nigga. Like OTF Jim. That he just had respect for because he a real one from they section. Why'd he take Reese on there? Reese a real one. Why'd he take Reese on there? He took him all for a reason. He knew Vaughn had star power. Exactly. I know. I'm glad you did. Bro, he fuck, bro. Dark fuck with niggas because you a real homie, nigga. Like a real nigga supposed to do.

2:08:46He fuck with Jim. Oh, Big Chaz because he's a real nigga out the community and put in work. Didn't even know him that well. Blessed him. New wardrobe. Came on the night and gave him 50 ,000. He was a bum and a killer at most. And he blessed him. And now he got a nigga named Von. That's his boy, King Von. And he looked out for a lawyer, helped him get home and they ain't kept him with him. Put up that pole. They're scamming that pole. Hey, Vicious. They spamming pole. He didn't even know he had a tally. He didn't know he had a tally. I think he did. Would Lil Durk still be the same? Vaughn said it.

2:09:22Bro, bro, bro. If he wouldn't have got – I mean, would Lil Durk be the same, had the same success if he wouldn't have never got with Vaughn? They spamming that pole. They want to see a pole. Put the pole up here. Man, you lost the first one, bro. Would Durk be as big without King Vaughn? Yes or no? Everybody on this panel just agreed with me, but you, bro. I don't care, bro. How did I lose? Look, I'm not a majority win nigga. That's why I said get two niggas with the pop out of them. I'm just saying. You're the only one that said... I agree. I'm always the only one. I agree with Munchy that Dirk was obviously established as an artist, but he was not a national sensation until King Vaughn came around to see him.

2:09:59Who said he wasn't, though? He's ahead of him. I'm just establishing the points. He did not have a song with Drake until King Vaughn was around. He was not doing some of these things. Hey, Moose, What I'm saying is around the time he came home, that's when Dirk took off. I can agree. His success is not accredited to King Von. We're not saying 100%, but what percent do you think on that resurgence, that jump to the main stage, what percentage did King Von help him? It might be a percentage, but I can't put a number on it. So my question to you is – He would have been Dirk regardless, though. And that's what I'm saying.

2:10:34how would he have been Dirk regardless when he wasn't putting up no numbers before Vaughn came out. Everything else was mediocre. He did. His turning point was before Vaughn came home. That's what I'm trying to say, Munchy. Listen, he was talking different. Bro, bro, bro, bro. He had a turning point before he came home, bro. He did not, bro. He wasn't talking like that. He wasn't drilling shit like that. He wasn't none of that, bro. Dirk and Daze was his turning point. For sure. That was a big song. But I think like the nerds like. That was his turning point. The nerds like Trapler Ross wasn't into Dirk until Vaughn came around.

2:11:04Most of the world is like nerds like Trappler Ross. They're not like his people. Trappler Ross wasn't even on the internet then. So you don't think King Von gave that nigga a confidence boost at all when your beast is out? That's crazy. And why would you side by side? There's 100 documentaries about Von. There ain't 100 about Dirk. Hey, Rios, Rios, Rios, Rios. What I'm saying is, and when I say things, I like to stay right there so we don't move goalposts, right? I believe King Von complimenting Dirk. it added to his order. Of course, Dirk would have been Dirk regardless. And that's what I'm saying.

2:11:42I don't like to move goalposts. Adam do it a lot. Spotify's do it a lot. Oh, my God. Les do it a lot. You do it a lot. No, I don't. I try to stick on a point and stick to it. But y 'all move it on. But what Ofer Riffrey did in 2005, bro, listen. I'm saying Dirk would have been Dirk regardless. And I'm just saying, I just don't believe that. King Von complimented like Munchie with a bad bitch. Bro, no, not calling King Von a bitch. Don't get it because I don't want to shot rack in my DMs.

2:12:18It helped. I'll say this. I wasn't even listening to that fucking music, but I knew about who King Von was just because young niggas out here was fucking with King Von and whatever he had moving. And that's how I was like, oh shit, who is this dude? King Von had a movement that he hit the streets with. And motherfuckers was paying attention out here because of King Von. And then all the nerds was, like, infatuated with King Von because it's like, oh, he killed all these people and shit. Like, oh, now I care about Dirk, too, because he's a savage, too. He from Chirac. They got niggas listening to Chicago music and that drill music again.

2:12:50Dirk was for the streets, and then King Von came around, and it seemed like all the nerds was like, oh, look at these dudes. They dope now. Don't hear that. If you ask all the Chicago dudes, I mean, all the New York dudes, excuse me. If you ask all the New York dudes. No, no, no. You don't even know what I'm about to say. If you ask all the New York rappers, the old heads and all that, they didn't even say this on a podcast. They accredit that New York drill rap to King Von. They say, oh, why is New York people got, why we got GDs out here and BDs and vice lords? They accredit all that. They say, why TJ and all them dudes with these drill rappers rapping like these Chicago dudes?

2:13:24And they accredit that to King Von, bro. Even the New York dudes who say that. They started some old weather stuff on the East Coast, bro. I'm going to tell you something. The whole drill conversation is confusing me because I thought drill was a sound. I didn't know it was this and dead ops. Yeah, like a culture. Right? I thought drill was a sound to the upbeat, the tempo, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Not subject matter. I didn't know. I thought drill was a sound. I didn't know it was you got to smoke somebody on the beat. So now the whole meaning of drill, it changed. Mm-hmm.

2:14:04Okay, so, so, so. It's a certain tempo. Ice Spice, I'm a Munchies, now I drill. Whatever this shit is, you got the chat going crazy. Yeah, that was a good topic. Yeah, they voted yes, Dirk would still be on the same level without King Vaughn. 60 to 40. See what I'm saying? He from 40 Crip. Great. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm. 40 Crip. 40 Crip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, take that stupid-ass shit down. Who the fuck told him to put that dumb ass shit up in the first? Let's pull up the super chat, see what they say about this, because they had a lot to say about this one. Who the fuck told you to put up that motherfucking stupid?

2:14:38Stop doing that dumb ass shit. They saying we don't know. They saying we don't know. What the hell are we talking about? Who the fuck told you to put that dumb ass shit up? I want to see another fucking poll tonight. Who the fuck told you to put that stupid ass shit up, man? Next poll, baby. It's Sherman Poll. We need some reason to hear. Okay, go down. Yeah, because those is the 49ers shit. Why you capping? Oh, no, I read that. 187. Okay, 187. Hood App, 499. Shout out to the Tuesday crew for a real good episode, y 'all. Shout out. Yeah, shout out to y 'all. It's been fun as hell. We podding for real.

2:15:0392nd Baby, 499. King Vaude had seven skulls tatted on him. Could you imagine the amount of munchie could have got tatted? Any entire graveyard on his back. On West Side F's on IFG. I do gang prevention and intervention. You remember? That nigga Wax said I work for Greed. What the fuck are you talking about? He's a good guy, man. He's my butt. Grover's Dago. Grover's Dago, 499. Shout out to today's cast salute from Grover City. Shout out to Grover City. I never heard of that, but shout out to you. Ill Mind 19, 499. Spody never heard Glocked Up. That's a hood classic dropped in 2016. You sound like an idiot just because y 'all waited.

2:15:38Album is when Dirk took off. That's 2016. He had buzz for show. I said, who said he had that buzz? You big dummy. I'm sitting out here on the West Coast. Bro, let's not call Spody Face an idiot, bro. Bro, he was incarcerated a lot, right? But still, I know what people was banging on. I said out here on the West Coast. I didn't say he had no hits. He didn't have no buzz. I didn't say he wasn't talented. I didn't say anything like that. I said, we're talking about West Coast business. Out West start messing with him. We're talking kind of mainstream appeal. Mainstream appeal type shit. And he started off mainstream at first.

2:16:06Yeah. I'll fuck with Von. I'm my top five. I'll fuck with Dirk. But he just wasn't popping, popping on the West. Out West, he wasn't that nigga. I relate more to Von. I'm sure you do. Lil Toon Chief. Lil Toon Chief$10. Lil Reese was that dude that got Dirk popping. He was the killer, not Vaughn. Reese was tall. Spody, you wrong, fam. Okay, that's a hot take. Chief got all of them. Neither one of them. Okay. But he's wrong again. Sir KTVO619. Chief didn't get all of them popping? Yeah, Chief definitely did. He opened the door. Sir KTVO619,$5. Vaughn gave Dirk the street credit. Dirk wasn't comfortable going against Keefe until Vaughn did.

2:16:44Dirk wasn't even the best out of his era. Keefe, Dirk, Reese. Thank you. Hey, hold on. Let me correct you. Thank you. JoJo, too. JoJo, too. Keefe is a superstar. JoJo, he alleged that Dirk was second to Keefe for sure. Hold on, hold on. Chief Keefe was going through it before King Von got out of jail. He was going through turbulence in his hometown with his peers or whatever before he got out of jail. His house getting rent in. He was having rent ins with Dirk before then. He was the face of Chicago, though. Of course. That's not what I'm saying. so they acting like Dirk had to curse anything with Chief Keefe because Von came home and that's not true because they ran into each other and had instances where Von was on that with him no but Von I mean Dirk never physically did nothing to Chief that's why Chief Keefe don't give a fuck about doing songs with it be a young boy and shit like yeah because he's not afraid of consequences but Dirk never did nothing to Chief that was other people though he never physically did nothing to no one came from his direction they had a clip of Chief Keefe and his homies watching the Dirk trial, was that them just trying to see what's good with somebody that's from their city?

2:17:52What do you think was the reason why they was tuned in like that? They were super interested in it, like watching all the coverage. I hope it's just for entertainment value because I ain't no shit and nigga want nobody else, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact. That's weak, you know what I'm saying? So I know the Chiracians got the same sentiments we got out here, you know what I'm saying? They want them on the street, yes. I ain't never team watch, gang watch the fucking trial, though. Yeah, that was busting down the food, smoking weed, just having a grand all the time watching the trial.

2:18:23I'm like, yeah, I don't know how to spend that one. It's entertainment, though. Yeah, this is the biggest story, one of the biggest stories in rap right now, for sure. Seattle Finest 24, 499. Dirk, this ain't what you want. Did 60 million views in 2013. What year did Von get out? We're not saying he wasn't big. Come on, bro. I don't think that was the point. Hey, bro, I'll let the chat talk for me, though. What does that mean though? How many times he went platinum? You talking about views. The fuck is views? You talking about views? How many times he went platinum? Sign to a major. You talking about views.

2:18:53Do that song that just recited, do that have a plaque? Come on, bro. We got the way down the board. It's typing here. You talking about 60 million views? I mean, of course he should have a plaque. I mean, but you talking about... That's on the... But we're going to see if he got a plaque. Okay. What kind of plaque? Gold? Gold is old shit. All that's new. Hold on, hold on. We're talking about that particular... Do they got a plaque? He has five platinum records. And, hey, I just want to say that Lil Durk had zero platinum records when King Von was released in December of 2017. Thank you. I mean...

2:19:32Thank you. Hey. Thank you. What do I know? Thank you. What do I know? Thank you. What do I know? What do I know? I know... What do I know? and you doing your devil's advocate, but I'm saying, we all know he had a slow start. Yeah, for sure. He's like, that's all we were saying in the beginning, Munchy. But I'm saying, back it up then. There's a lot of shit. Back it up. No, no, no, no, no. What I'm saying, it don't have nothing to do with Von. And we're saying it does. The numbers prove that. We said, is it a coincidence then? He's like, no, it's not a coincidence. It's some percentage, you just don't want to put a number on it.

2:20:04Yeah, that's all we said. He's not solely credited for Keaton. Dirk would always be Dirk. Because he's talented. But what we're saying, when Von got out, he squished his whole style up. He like, hold on, Von catching fire? He catching fire? This what's going? That's like Doc Hollywood getting with Wyatt Earp. Come on, bro. Nigga, Wyatt Earp ain't shit without Doc Hollywood. Holiday, nigga. Hey, okay. Now, I'm going to just get off subject for 127. It's like when Pop got out of jail. He got with Snoop and him and started wedding a gangster, nigga, gangster party, nigga. He got out of jail, nigga.

2:20:36Nigga, ain't nothing but a gangster party, nigga. All right, big homie. Ain't nothing but a gangster party. He said, oh, this one's working out, Wes? Brennan ain't got a baby no more. Hold on. They talking about, oh, I got to get on the team. He did the same thing. We're hanging out the car tripping. It worked for him. It worked for him, bro. I just need 120 seconds, bro. Two minutes, right? Okay. Okay. And I need all the Clippers. I need the Eggers to pull this up. However, Poetic Flacco only did numbers on Munchie was sitting next to him. Right? Mm-hmm. When he recruited Munchie, me, him, and Dusty Loke, Spider Loke, we had the show.

2:21:15He did his highest numbers. When he was next to Munchie, he did his highest numbers. Now, Clippers, go do your research. Flacco's a nobody as a podcaster. He do monologue. He cool with that. He fast sloppy by itself. All right. All right. Proceed. Okay. So basically, you was Flacco's Vaughn? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, man. The slapper member for 10 months. Spody was clearly in jail. If this is how he remembers Dirk Vaughn, versatillion, 499. Spody, wasn't you in prison? Dirk was hot from 2015 to 2020. Vaughn came out. He ain't never had no 2015 to 21. Party locally, not internationally. Hey, man, you crazy as a man.

2:21:56Like I said, did he have any? He didn't have no platinum plaques, though. He didn't have no platinum plaques. What catalog was you ordering Dirk out of? What you mean? Access? Walkinghurst? Union supply? Union supply? Yeah, go to the States. Access the best one. Yeah. Access the best one. I had that two times and all that. When he had the waves and he had the Burberry shirt on with the white on and the Thames on and his two sons. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about when he had the waves before the dreads. Access the best magazine. Before he had the dreads. Access tap in with me, bro. You know what I'm saying?

2:22:25A little sponsorship? Yeah, Access magazine. Oh, get your shit in there, huh? Yeah, I'm good. They said, yeah, Vaughn came out around 2018. That's wrong. We just read it was 2017. You was in prison. Moose, you wasn't locked up. You have no excuse. You just had two of them fucking facts wrong, you fucking idiot. What are you talking about? Sir K. TiVo,$619,$5. Shout out to the new format where the super chats are read during a lot more interactive. Shout out Spody. Got a lot of family from the 40s. And Dago. We got to give whoever had that suggestion. You did. No, we read it out in the chat. Someone typed it in the chat and said thank you.

2:22:59No, you're welcome for the idea. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, that was a good idea. But Rios was like, no, we should do that. I remember Rios said it first. He was like, he read it. Okay, you said it. He endorsed it. Yeah, facts. Big Mike Hemi,$4.99. I'd rather give my gun to Munchie than King Von any day on IFG. See what you got him doing now? I'll pass it. See what you got him doing? Just a gang of IFs in the chat, man. A whole lot of people. We can't believe the polls, bro. We can't believe the polls. Munchie got the chat by him. He got a deal. That's what I'm saying. Nigga, he's a politician. He done married.

2:23:27I can't go up against that. Now, pass the hookah. At least you know you can't go up against this, bro. I'm talking about no. No, nigga. You got me fucked. I'm talking about with the chat. Nigga, I'm talking about the chat. Not you. I'm talking about the chat. I can't win with the chat. You easy money. That's easy money. I'm talking about the chat. So now you sound like Ricky. No, I'm not using a skill set. I'm going to beat you 2-0. I'm not worried about the chat. I'm going to beat you 2-0. Come on, man. I'm going to beat you 2-0. I'm going to just lead it to that. I don't really care about the chat.

2:23:50I'm not going off the chat. I'm going to beat you 2-0. Because I'll register that way. GTB 744-99. Spody must have been in jail. Listen to Dirk 52 bars. Dirk, been on that. Got to do your research. Munchie right. I think they're just talking about dissing. Dirk's been dissing. Bro! Nobody said he wasn't dissing. Never said that. So don't get turnt up, Munchie, because I never said he wasn't dissing. That wasn't a conversation. Let's say monetize F69 but walk him down or whatever he say. I walk shit down. How you walk him down? Every point you made, he just debunked with the numbers. I walk him down without the rainbow hair though.

2:24:29I don't blush. Let's do it. Without the bust-down weave. That Remy thing about you thinking that you walk me down, but you're not. He just deep - Without the bust-down weave. With the numbers. Yeah. We got Lil Toon Chief,$5. Meanwhile, Reese chilling like munchies. The Shy Rack, Grim Reaper, B-Team, the Dream Team. Devon Terz,$4.99. Moose just lied. My Beyonce was platinum before Vaughn got out. Okay, we looked at that out. That's what I said. That was his turning arc. That's when he turned it up. Daryl Deshaun. They lying to you, Munchie. They lying to you, bro. I can look it up and see if AI is wrong It can be wrong sometimes for sure Alright It was awarded After King Von's prison release In late 2017 So it dropped before But it didn't earn platinum until after No no no So you're wrong Devon Sorry bro No no no like Dejan Paul said The song RJ they raving about this plaque for he got 11 years later.

2:25:32Yeah. But the song dropped, bro. It was a hit song. It don't matter when a plaque came. I mean, so we talking about when a plaque came. Man, it matters if we're saying King Von affected it. If it shoots up, immediately. And that's the fact that you catching fire. Dirt caught fire. So a lot of people start going to listen to his old stuff. That's what our argument is. They went back. Daryl Deshawn, 499. Shout out to you, brother. And then Daryl Deshawn, member for eight months. and words better shout out to young pappy for sure yeah shout out to young pappy he's r.i.p right young pappy low pap no his name was young pappy chicago dude right the nigga that got smoke right yeah read all of them yeah i think that's all of them does rondo cousin no no no they're talking about the the youngin that was in chicago way back in the day that they smoked i'm pretty sure i want to i want to say this though yeah he passed away to 2015 okay rest peace to him he was a hard rapper for sure.

2:26:25He used to go crazy. Everybody talking about, you know what I'm saying, the people snitching in Lil' Dirt Case and all that, I'm going to say it right here. Shout out to Kondo, Rondo, and Lil' Tim, bro. Them niggas kept it gangsta. I don't give a fuck. Them niggas kept it gangsta. But niggas talking about all these snitch niggas, them niggas kept it gangsta, bro. Nigga went and did his time. Nigga kept his mouth closed. All his homies went against him, bro. I'm going to keep it a band, bro. I respect them dudes, bro. How you respect them dudes? Because they kept it gangsta. Everybody talking about...

2:26:52They did a shooting and they wasn't on child for it. No, but listen. They could have read it. They could have read it. Everybody, everybody. Listen, I'm just. Oh, they can't bust on me first. They wasn't up against that. So you can sit here and give a snitch, nigga, all these hours and all these segments. What snitch hours? Whoever. I mean, we talking about whatever the nigga name. We talking about Dirk. No, I'm talking about all the OTF niggas that's telling, bro. Niggas giving all the light to the snitches. Them niggas on the other side Kept it G Talk about that We can't talk about Dirk Without talking about the niggas that's telling on them But they getting all that air time So me, I'm saddled to the real niggas Them niggas keeping it gangsta Dirk is a real nigga I'm nobody talking about Dirk But we kept running a Dirk trail And the niggas is stitching on him Niggas been talking about these niggas You gonna lose this battle bro I don't like bullying bro I'm gonna back out Who you bullying?

2:27:49That's a bully bro Who you bullying? A nigga sit up here and give and talk about these snitch niggas all day long, but ain't nobody talking about nigga HaKwondo, Rondo, nigga. Kepa Solid. Kepa Solid, nigga. Shout out to you niggas. Y 'all niggas Kepa Solid. Who you talking about a nigga? No! No! I mean, he lost his peoples. I mean, you ain't never hurt. You ain't never hurt. You ain't never felt no hurt. You losing your peoples in front of you? That's a different type of feeling, nigga. I have, but I have, though. That's a different type of feeling. You can't make fun of that. Why is he dropping his flag?

2:28:18I'm going to keep it real. So I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that. That's a cold. I'm glad you said that. Buster. Hey, Kondo, if you listening, you say ye, bro. Because if you, look, look, look. If you're trying to long range, not long range. I'm going to let you go. Just let me go. Go ahead. I ain't going to say long range, because y 'all not. Whatever you do, you long range doing this, you took it out. Bro, you could have banged anything in Georgia, but you claim to claim rolling 60s. Okay. Then you come out here. You throwing up gang signs Disrespecting Throwing up hoover fingers With the middle finger You doing all that little shit And you acting gangsters As could be You lose a family member To some violence You know what I'm saying And guess what Somebody lost something Before you lost something And then you drop your flag Buster In your words Custer Straight big shit Alright Let's moody land Nigga slide for Pap Is that his name Pap?

2:29:14Lil Pap Yeah Nigga slide for Lil Pap He, nigga, ain't no way to, oh, he was right, oh, he dropped his flag. Nigga, why you dropped your flag because of what? Because you's a bitch. Nigga, don't put that energy out there if you ain't ready for it, nigga. And what was you about to say about the dropping flag? All right, so I want to clarify something. We don't say drop our flag out here. That's some New York shit. I'm going to just say that. No, no, no. Excuse me. Excuse me, spotty face. But you know that. That ain't no terminology. We don't say that out here. I'm saying it because that's how I used it.

2:29:45In California, we don't drop flags I don't know what the fuck that is That's some New York shit Alright, go ahead, my bad brother Great podcast etiquette, man You guys are professionals I know a couple people close to that situation I ain't gonna say no names or nothing like that But that's not the sole reason That he dropped his rag, flag Whatever you want, a bandana, whatever you want to call it Whatever So a lot of that reason, and this is why I commend him because For the simple fact, this go unnoticed though So the same people that's supposed to be from his hood In Georgia Lil Baby, Gunna All them type of They start doing albums with niggas that he was beefing with That's keeping it banned Like niggas turned they Niggas did suck his shit And turned they back on him You know what I'm saying And they supposed to be from his hood And that's keeping it banned when he came out west Niggas was doing the same shit Niggas was trying to get it You know what I'm saying Niggas was You know what I mean Whatever the case is Niggas was trying to get under niggas I don't really care but that's just keeping a band.

2:30:45He wasn't getting the same love he was putting on for niggas, bro, and niggas backdoored him. That's keeping a band, nigga. Or a major loss. Nigga, I'm not about to fuck with niggas. Nigga, I'm not about to fuck with niggas who don't fuck with him. They literally doing albums with niggas. Talk about that. They literally clicking up with niggas and doing albums with niggas. So what else he supposed to do? You niggas doing albums with niggas. They trying to kill me. You know what I'm saying? They trying to unalive me. They trying to backdole me and you niggas is doing albums with niggas? So I still post a Fuck with you niggas To me In my personal opinion I commend them For niggas Stending no business To me I don't look at that As coward That's him Knowing how to Read the room Like hold on I ain't got my hood Well at least The people that's In the limelight Cause he definitely Got people in Georgia That's fuck with him They rockin' with him To death But a lot of the people That's industry That's claiming Rolling 60s That's claiming This shit out here They was going against him And it shows How you from the same hood Quando Rondo from Nigga and you Turnin' around Do an album With Lil Dirk Multiple albums Multiple songs Yeah Cause they more poppin Cause they more poppin You hoppin on a wave And all that So to be honest with you I We all got opinions To me I personally I don't think it was Busterism That he Said that Not necessarily That he said I ain't Excuse me I ain't fucking with y 'all Because For one Y 'all turn y 'all back on me For two I can't trust y 'all For three I don't know who with me Or who against me And only that Y 'all put me on a public display Of embarrassment You know how embarrassing that is for a nigga like, man, ain't he from your hood?

2:32:10This nigga doing an album with a nigga. These the same ones trying to kick me. So that's why I just wanted to say that. That's not the sole reason why he, you know what I'm saying, he dropped his flag, and I also wanted to state that out too, man. Shout out to them because they team stayed down. Them niggas on the other side, Quan Arano could have been got out. He done did two terms already. He could have been cooperating. He done do that. That nigga went and did his time, bro. Niggas need to highlight that. Niggas need to talk about that instead of all these snitch niggas, bro. Get out some light, bro.

2:32:35In comparison to what 6ix9ine did. That's a fact. Because he had homies who were disloyal, and he turned on all of them and snitched on them. All of them in comparison from what Kwondo. So what about that? The difference between Kwondo Rondo and 6ix9ine. He stayed down in the paint, nigga. He could have told him he seen his cousin got smoked. Niggas right in front of his face and didn't talk. Talk about that, though. That's what we need. We're going to talk about the bullshit, but talk about the other side, though. That nigga stayed down, bro. Because he could have did the same thing like them.

2:33:07Yeah. He could have told. The whole industry against me, the whole world against me, that nigga don't like Lil Durk. And got out the jam. Come on, bro. No pun intended. Got out the jam. He went there two terms. He stood on his 10. Yeah. Hey, look. And everybody called him a Mark and a bitch and a buster. And all them OTF niggas are well snitching. But they still Marks and bitches, though. Nah. Did niggas snitching? Did that change your mind, Munchy? The niggas snitching is Marks and bitches. Everybody was talking about how Kwon Do Rondo is so much of a coward, and he's a mark and he a bitching but at the end of the day he the only one staying down standing out on what?

2:33:42not snitching you supposed to do that they smoked his cousin right in front of his face you supposed to do that exactly my point but nope that don't get talked about but when a nigga snitch that's headline news talk about the we gotta at least throw the real niggas in there whether you like him or whether you agree with him he's still a real nigga though hey look sir if it's so easy why they didn't do it Munchy hey look sir if that's what we supposed to do if the niggas got 10 bodies you got 10 bodies you don't know how this count Hey, look, sir. You took 10 lines but scared to lose yours? You scared to go up against it?

2:34:11That's the shit that I don't respect. That's cowardly. Niggas be out here unaliving people. Niggas be out here going on all these drills. You take on all these lines, but you scared to go, nigga, in a county jail, nigga. You scared to go do your time. They got 6ix9ine out here celebrating. Come on. And niggas on stream with him, talking to him, laughing with him. He back regularly. He mingling in society. 6ix9ine ain't a PC no more. That nigga general population. But then you got OTF Jam saying, I'm going to be bigger than 6 '9". Come on, bro. Come on. Come on. I'm about to get paid. I'm about to be bigger than 6 '9".

2:34:40Look at Woody and him all in, bro. These niggas is not in PC, bro. They out here in society, in general population. What do you got to say to that, Munchy? Hey, listen. Now, this dude, Kwondo Rondo, you don't get no credit for not telling. If you a street cat, you supposed to stay down. That's period. Like I been shot on multiple occasions, ain't never told on nobody. Hey, I don't want no extra credit for that. Nigga, you claiming 60s, that's what you do. Okay, now, I don't want to use that example, because Big U is - Listen. Got him miskepopulated over there. No, no, no, I ain't diskepopulated, because I'm about to use Big - Because Big U is like - Yeah, that's what he doing.

2:35:27No, no, I can say it ain't bad. Get it out much. Come on, get it out much. Don't pontificate. He said, don't call on us now. You wasn't fucking with us beforehand. And now niggas bustling. Now you want to roll the 60s. But that's invalid much. Hold on, hold on. I gave you 15 minutes. You know what I'm saying? I didn't do 15 minutes. Go ahead, though. All right, boom. Now, are you talking about industry 60s? You talking about some rap shit? Or are you talking about some cloth shit, bro? Because if you banging 60 for 60, bro, nigga, who gives a fuck who doing a who a song with who? You supposed to take a...

2:36:05Hold on. Take... Your issue is what? Now is with Lil Baby. Because we from 60s, Atlanta 60s, and you ain't... You know what I'm saying? That's your issue. So you dropped your flag because of this nigga doing a song with this nigga? Why you ain't breathing on this nigga? That's what I would do. That's what I'm saying. It's overall... What about the outcome of the situation? It was overall. Hey, look. Hey, look. Hey, there was. Look, look. In this case, there's no lives lost, right? This nigga Frosty, the little homie from the hood, he pop up at a couple shows on a Blueface tour. We out back and forth, whatever.

2:36:43You know what I'm saying? Get your money. You use a rapper. You know what I'm saying? I know Blueface is a bitch. You know what I'm saying? Whatever. Like, who gives a fuck? He doing some rap shit. That's some rap shit, bro. And nigga, if you got an issue with that, take it on with fucking Lil Baby. Nigga, what they got to do, if you join Rolling 60, you done joined Rolling 60 because of this nigga. Y 'all ain't even from the same part of Atlanta. You from Savannah. He from this other side of Atlanta or whatever. Nigga, you don't even know that nigga like that. They was dropping low on him. That's what I'm saying.

2:37:15Go back to the lie. No, you know we're going to edit this out. They was dropping low on him. How you think they kept getting this low? That's the major part. They was dropping low. That's why I'm saying you. You ain't saying everything. You don't know everything. That's what I'm trying to tell you, bro. I know niggas close to the situation. There was niggas dropping low on that nigga. He's like, why the fuck they keep it? They was dropping low on that nigga, man. No, they wasn't. All right. All right. Then the court transcripts said, nigga, it was something about a nigga. We're going to keep court transcripts with the nigga at the motherfucking weed shit.

2:37:43And to clarify something, when he was out there with Nip was alive, he was fucking with Nip now. But, you know, that whole big you and Nip. I ain't going to get into that. Yeah. You want to scroll up a little bit if we missed any super chats from this topic? Okay, that was it. If you bang 60s, nigga, you from 60s. Breathe on low, baby, nigga. I don't ain't go with it. It should be with them and not with the gang, just because you have a problem with people within the gang. Nigga, you don't ain't go with it, bro. Nigga, we both from where it's at, bro. Nigga, you know niggas that got shot by their homies.

2:38:12I got shot by my homies. We on that, nigga. What they got to do with hundreds and thousands of members, nigga? Like, come on, bro. But if you feel like you can't trust him or you feel like it ain't in your heart no more because of... Why does that make you a coward or a bitch? Poet is like the face of photies, bro. And it's on the internet, the story he got shot by a homie. Nigga, phoet is the photy crib to the core. He not worried about this one nigga. It's photy crib. Nigga, that's how this bitch ass nigga should be. But everybody's not the same. Everybody's not the same. Everybody's not the same.

2:38:44Well, the Savannah color should be. You can't hold everybody to the same. Well, he shouldn't be out here throwing a fuck hoover. with middle fingers and not ready for the consequences. He got an epiphany, Munchie B? He can't have an epiphany? Epiphany? Nigga, man, I don't even know what you're talking about no word, epiphany. Hey, but that's the thing, it's different standards and shit. Nigga, shit is so spread across. If you want to if you want to if you want to I'm going to hold you to the standard. Nigga, just because you from Savannah, I'm going to hold you to the same standard as 4Xers. He got shot by and four extras don't give a fuck.

2:39:21It's 40 crap. Nigga, you from 60s and Savannah. This nigga made a song with your op. Nigga, get on that nigga. Weirdo. You can drop your flag. You bitch ass nigga. And then what they saying about... That's crazy. So how you feel about the standout here? What they saying about him out there? I don't know. What the fuck? Are they on him out there? Rondo, Rondo. Yeah. His homies love him out there, bro. Oh. He good over there. He just... I don't... Because Munchie got a whole... There must be some other... because he talking about Kwando like, I don't hear you talking them, them calling them bitches and marks and busters and says, oh, it must be some personal.

2:39:55OTF Jam in there. Yeah, I don't hear that type of energy so it must be. Jam is worse than him. What are you talking about? Okay, there it goes. He's horrible. Okay, there it goes. Give us some of that energy towards him. No, no, no, but we talking about, we talking about like dropping flags and shit. Jam still. So dropping your flag, you feel like dropping your flag is worse than it. You telling on the nigga? I don't like that term drop your flag, But since he used it, the way he did it is buster. It's very custer, for sure, nigga. Like me, example, I got shot by a homie. Nigga, fuck him. He ain't gonna never be in Englewood again.

2:40:33Like, whatever. Whatever he had in life. Nigga, I'm still in my community. It have nothing to do with this one individual. Now, this nigga do a song with your wives and you dropping your flag. Custer versus rap, though. One is get rid of you. Hey, look. Niggas dropping low on the nigga, bro. That's different. I ain't going to lie to you, bro. Yeah, they do that. Niggas going to do an album with a nigga. Niggas drop lows every day, B. Sheesh. We got a versatility in 15 with the 499. Musa wasn't wrong. Vaughn got out of jail in December 2017. He didn't put out music until 2018. Like I said, you and Spody loud and wrong.

2:41:06Get outside more. Shut your bitch ass up. The argument was he didn't go. No, no, no, no. That was not the argument. No, he wasn't right because we was talking about platinum records in 2017. that record didn't go platinum. It didn't go platinum until 2021. It went gold in June of 2017. This one says Dirk and Vaughn didn't even collab until 2019. Bro, bro. We're not talking about collaboration. We're talking about interviews. We're talking about collaboration. We're talking about the music. 69K. Hey, stop doing that shit. You got him looking dumb. Stop doing that shit. Stop pumping him up because he's wrong.

2:41:41He got out of jail. Not about when they collab. No, no, fuck Jeff. Nobody said about collaborations. 6ix9K voice. 16 shot him. First interview with King Von was like January 2018. Like, cut it out, my boy. He been outside for the interview. Didn't nobody see that 16 shot him shit? Yes, they did. That shit was popping. Yeah, he was cracking. 16 shot him is a nobody, bro. Not in 2017, 2018? Bro, he became somebody when he spit on Flocka. Maybe over here, but he was popping. That's why he was even up here, because he was popping. Well, we got him talking about that Dirk was nobody until somebody came out.

2:42:18No, no, no. See, that's what I never said. You're 22ing out right now. You're moving the goalposts. No, I never said that. We just said he wasn't a national treasure until King Von came around. National. Okay, you said nobody was playing him on the West until Dirk came out. And then nobody here about the 16th shot him, nigga, until he spit on Flacco. Okay. All right. Courtney25, thank you for the$4.99. Shout out Moses. $5 on IFG. Why Rios ain't say nothing about Adams. Talking about Z-Rail's kid, Long Beach guy, something else. When we getting Rios and Spody on a 24-hour. They was on the last one.

2:42:53Y 'all gotta tune in. Man, they need to pop out first before nigga Spody gets to me, bro. You lost already. I won this already by a landslide, bro. Spody need some ginapsic. No, the only thing you want is to chat today. You need some cardio, bro. Only thing you want is to chat today. I'm gonna win an electoral and a popper. No, you're not. Come on, bro. Hey, bro. Hey, I'll give you a head start. I don't. I'll give you a head start. No, you're not. The ChatGPT says, yes, Lil Durk was already a national artist with a mainstream recording contract. Nobody said he wasn't. And Tartan music years before King Von Rose to fame.

2:43:29I know. Nobody said he wasn't. I said he was signed to. Damn. Damn. You said he wasn't a mainstream artist. We said he was signed to a major. He wasn't. He did not do the numbers. Just because AI says he's a national, he didn't have a platinum record until 2021. What are you talking about? Just because you're signed to a label doesn't mean you're a national sensation. What are you talking about? 69K. One. Damn. You gaslighting Bunchy B right now. He gaslighting you right now, bro. Just because you sign a record deal doesn't mean you're a national sensation. Ain't nobody saying you're signed to a major label.

2:44:00Ain't no big three. It's me against three. Oh, my God. N***a Glasses. And Mexican Cubs. nigga what damn I'm telling this nigga shit in his favor man that shit bullshit that's not even in the first place we already knew that let's do it they're accrediting him signing a deal as him being a national fucking sensation that's not the same thing signing a deal 2013 Dirk is not 2021 Dirk it's a matter of fact that nigga was in a different bag that's all I'm saying bro songs for the streets all that shit that he was a man listen bro he was in a different bag that's all I'm saying he started going up around the time the man got released.

2:44:38Yeah, and we could agree on that. Connie 6855 $5.00. Quando was dissing Dirk before and after dropping his flag. Spodey just saying a bunch of BS. Either you a civilian or not. Who's saying about talking about dissing him? He's a prisoner. What are you talking about, bro? That don't even make no sense. Yeah. Who said that he wasn't dissing Dirk before or after? Who said that? Yeah, he said he didn't snitch on him. That's what he's saying. So eat turkey nuts, nigga. J E 3 1 7 8 6$5.00. Quando dropped a story End of story after Vaughn died to counter Crazy Story and dropped Life Goes On. Hours after Dirk got locked up to counter All My Life, he won.

2:45:17We didn't hear a lot of them Kondo tracks like them other ones, so I don't know about all that. Yu-Gi-Oh! Blood Eyes, B-Team Dragon,$5. Shout out B-Team, the elite team. That part. Yeah, they got the Yu-Gi-Oh !s out there now. Yeah, it's a whole pandemic out there right now. I'm not going to lie. He got a whole section in the fucking chat. Yeah. Y 'all blood get nervous. You don't want to pop that. I told you. Listen, I'm going to beat you 2-0. I ain't worried about the third round. I ain't worried. You're going to be the first two. Yeah, let's pull this one up, Nathan. This is a good one. There's going to be any excuses, though.

2:45:46Whatever the excuse is, let's get out of the way now. No excuses. What about this, man? There was a conversation. Ricky came in popping it on the Crips side. You feel me saying? Hey, I'm popping up. On the West Coast. The blood is out rapping the Crips in California by a long shot. Like, I mean, if you was to get someone to rap to save your life from California, nine times out of ten, if we talk about from gangs, you're going to say a blood rapper. You're going to say the game. You're going to say hit a J3. You're going to say J-Rock. You're going to say Mozzie. You feel me? The list goes on. You're going to say RJ, Joe Moses.

2:46:26The thing with the Crips is that the Crips love to pay homage to Draco the Ruler. You feel me? It's either you got the Draco the Ruler lane or you got Blueface. And that's that laid back, lazy stuff. And that's cool. That's some player stuff. But we talking about rapping. Like, you need to rap. You feel what I'm saying? Like, yo, if you got to rap to pay your bills, that's not how you're going to do it, bro. And I think that a lot of people think that they could get in with that because Draco did it. No, Draco did that. Draco is one-on-one. Blueface did that. Blueface is one-on-one. Y 'all got to come in with your own flavor, bro.

2:47:03It's cool to pay homage, but you got to be versatile. You feel me? The best Crips, from my point of view, from the outside, is, as rappers, is Big Sad, Savvy Thirds. Woo! That's it. You feel me? That could really say something on the mic to give you that face on. I felt that. You feel me? Y 'all let me know what y 'all think, man. Otherwise, mic drop. He definitely left people out though No no no I think he left G Perico out And that's it You crazy man You gotta put Dom Kennedy in there You crazy Dom Kennedy is not a crib Dom Kennedy is a crib I'm not gonna argue He a slipper He a slipper I'm not gonna Listen First of all Nigga's popping it Nigga left Dom out Nigga left glasses out nigga left Eastside K-Boy out, hard up.

2:48:01Listen, to be honest, I mean, shout out to Mozzie and Rock, everybody else out of that. Mediocre to me. You talking about J-Hitner, you talking, man, Mozzie and J-Rock is the sickest, oh, their game. I'm not going to lie, Game of Legend. I'm not going to disrespect, they ain't got game, I don't see a game in that picture, but shout out Game of Legend. If they did a bloody Crip versus, bro, the Crips is getting washed, bro. Dude, we talking about a verga, we talking about, we talking about hits, or we talking about rap, like talent. A versus, is full. The bloods in the Crips are the verses, bro.

2:48:30Old school, new school, dead or alive. It's got to be a little new school. I mean, what's the stipulation? Like 2010 and up type shit or something. He seems like he's talking. Old school, new school, you tripping. It'd be a washing machine. Old school, new school. If they include old school, the Crips are going to be heavily. Old school to new school, throw the east side of the song. What about Snoop? That's what I'm saying. Put the old school in. Put the east side of the song. Snoop is killing everything, no? Soon as you throw the east side of the Every hood nigga from Los Angeles is fucking with Isai.

2:49:00No, I'm going to say because if you're going to do that, you got to put the two legends up there, and they for sure West Coast. You know what I'm saying? They're DJ Quick and you know what I'm saying? They're Mac 10. That's your best bet. They platinum every time. Like, Quick and 10. To me, they more successful with everybody up there. But only games. All the people he was naming, it's like 2005 and up maybe. You know, Mac 10 was going to sign Snoop Dogg at one point. Credit that to Inglewood. You know what I mean? He wanted to do him a diss. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You know Mac 10 signed CJ Mack.

2:49:40He from Rolling 60s. You know what I'm saying? You're a businessman. Man, Inglewood gave Cripps so many opportunities. Oh, don't get to doing that. That's not the argument, though. Don't get to doing that. You give a shit like that. You give a shit like that. Yeah, don't get to doing that. Keep niggas signed some Inglewood niggas, bro. But he didn't sign him, so it didn't happen. He never signed him, so what happened? Huh? He never signed Snoop, though. So what happened? P ended up signing him. Master P ended up signing him. No, no, no, no, no. So you can't count that because he never, at Tech, he signed him.

2:50:12Hey, bro, it was in Tarks, bro. It was in Quake. It didn't happen, though. He went with his better option. He had his option. It was on the table. But, hey, no, man, bro. Shout out to Mozzie Game and J-Rock, though. They the best team. They the best team. Okay, if that's a big three, who's the big three for the Crips, like, current era type shit? Hey, since they say this is a Game Bang podcast. Savage 3rd is number one. That's crazy as much. No, no, no, no. Right now. They say it's from 2000. What? Because just the people they're naming, if you're including game and shit, then that's like 2004, 2005.

2:50:43First of all, shout out to Savage 3rd. He can rap rap. But I don't got Savage 3rd over Compton TG. Y 'all forgot about Compton. I do. I do. I do. Yeah, I do. I do. Shout out to Savage. I don't. I got Compton TG. As a matter of fact, shout out to Teezy. Nigga sleeping on Teezy. Teezy out there doing his thing too, nigga. They're at homies. Nigga, y 'all got the cribs fucked up. Shout out to Teezy. That's still rapping. Man, shout out to Gigi Gotti, nigga. Free Gotti. What are you talking about? Gigi Gotti. Nigga, he's one of the best in the world. Nigga, did it four years in the world. No, he's a battle rapper.

2:51:15One of the best in the world. Did it four years in a row. Shout out to Gotti, nigga. OT, Vince Staples. Hey, Gigi Gotti. Shout out to Vince. Vince Staples, nigga. Just do the bloods get chike. O.T. Ginnison. Do the bloods get A.T. O.T. got platinum shit. Don't be to the motherfucker. He went platinum a couple times. Hey, bro. Rashad. Isaiah Rashad. Isaiah Rashad. The dude from TDE. Oh. We talking about Rayvon? Is it Rayvon? You going to be talking about Rayvon? Nah, but you not. Hell not. Dude, do the bloods get A.T. chike? Nah, we ain't going to take A.T. chike. Okay, okay. I was wondering. We going to be a non-affiliant.

2:51:48Yeah, you left out a few. If we think about it, you left out a few. Y 'all be claiming K-Dot, but he's just really affiliated, but then we're going to take him off. He ain't really following him. It doesn't seem like they're including him. They got like Chef Boy, you know what I'm saying? Ain't none of them better. You can't stop it, bro. Hey, look. Nathan, can you bring up the chat? Mozzie, Mozzie, J-Rock and game. Legends for sure. I'm not going to lie to that. I'm not going to lie to that. I even throw YG in there because he's for sure got his run. I'm not going to speak on K-Dot behalf of his affiliation, bro.

2:52:17I'm going to stare down. I know what his affiliation is. I do too. Look at Smiley come in right now. He got way in real quick. Look at Smiley. Don't be stupid. You want to fuck real quick? What's up? No, we talking about West Coast. We talking about West Coast. No, we talking about West Coast. No, we don't count. We don't count because we talking about West Coast, L.A. No, no, no. We talking about West Coast. We talking about West Coast. L.A. We talking about L.A. We talking about West Coast. We talking about West Coast. Hey, bro. Hey, bro. Hey, but the blood's going to wash the crisp period, bro.

2:52:43You sound crazy, bro. After the dog pound era, East Siders is over. What? Pretty much all you mean. You ain't talking about Sigafree. You ain't talking about Nip. What are you talking about? You got 11 people. I'm lost. What you talking about? Nip is a national treasure, bro. Hey, look, look, look. Sigafree is the era with the dog pound. Platinum. Oh, you talking about what's the year? What's the year we're talking about? But you begging for it with Nip. What are we talking about? How are we begging? You can't say West Coast without saying Nip right now, bro. Because Nip, that's on the crib. What are you talking about?

2:53:17No, you said what you're talking about. You got to mention him. You got to mention him. Yeah, they talking to you. You're not mentioning Nip. I'm not saying Nip don't count. I'm saying. Glasses Malone, rappy, he rap rap. Eastside K-Boy, rap rap. No. TZ, rap rap. G.T. Gotti, four-time world champion in a row, rap rap. Compton TZ, Savvy third, rap rap. Commercial success or what we talking about? He said if your life depended on it, somebody that can rap their ass off and like save your life. That was like the scenario that that guy put out. Y 'all better not bring YG. If y 'all talking about rap rap, don't bring YG.

2:53:50Don't bring YG. We took my hits. But look, look, look. I'm not sure what his criteria was. K-Boy my favorite East Side Crib, bro. That's my boy. Shout out to K-Boy. That's bro. That's my nigga, bro. So you leaving him off the chart. I don't understand. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. And I never disagree with no take that Glass is my nigga. We talk on a regular. He was wrong about one thing. What? But it was some blood shit, so I expected him to be wrong. because I caught him like we talking about niggas that went from Banging on Wax to Mainstream and I was talking about DJ Quick he said no yes it was bro but it's like David Blake David Blake on on the credits because he wasn't trying to blend it with the DJ you know what I'm saying DJ Quick most definitely was on you know what I'm saying the Banging on Wax you talking about the actual album or Diddy Bang on Wax you talking about the actual album correct no no he was on there you talking about the actual album though right so he was wrong on that but But I love Glasses because he unapologetic and he not worried about being canceled or people not fucking with him.

2:54:54I fuck with Glasses on that. And then K-Boy, that's my favorite crib, bro. And everybody fuck with him. I thought that was your favorite crib. What happened? No, no. Eastside crib. Oh, okay. Eastside crib. You got to be specific. No, no. Every time, me and K-Boy, I think it was your favorite Eastside crib. Yeah, that's his slogan though, man. Shout out to K-Boy, though. Yeah, or everything. But I'll stand on the Bloods will wash the Crips. Nah. If you just go for the whole scale, it's not close. You talking about bar heavy? We talking about rapping our hits. We talking about rapping our hits. Overall, it's a wash.

2:55:29No, bro. Because it's not enough. Overall, it's a wash. No, it's not enough. Bangers. Bangers. It's just a versus. We need a versus, for real. We need a versus. It's a wash. Because we ran the 90s. in the early thousands. That's going to be tough with the OG. Hey, look, you don't have a crib that's more barred up than gang. That's a lot. Are you crazy? What? Corrupt, nigga? No. What? Come on, bro. Stop doing that, bro. You can't be biased. I love gang. That's one of my favorite rappers of all time. Game in my top five, bro. Cricket eye. Oh, we forgot all about cricket eye. What? What are you talking about?

2:56:07He got barred. We talk about all battle rappers. You got to think hard. Don't we think? Don't we think? No. Crooked Bob, Letter. Crooked Eye. Crooked Eye. Crooked Eye. Who sang Crooked Eye? Only the games. Only the games. Geethe Gotti. He the only really. K-Dotty. I'm going to keep it real. Our whole group. Kendrick. If we're going to allow you to count Kendrick in the game. Them the only ones that are ready. Battle rap ready. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Versus Geethe and Crooked Eye. I've been doing it. I been no Gigi Gotti from a kid, bro. He know. He re-rapped. Yeah, Cricket High one of them ones. Woo!

2:56:44Ever. Cricket High one of the best to do it. I ain't gonna lie. Gigi Gotti? Hold on. That's on Englewood family, bro. Hey, look, look, look. Hold on. My bad. I'm gonna take the Englewood. Hey, nigga. I'll put my... Hey, look. If you go back to the Spuddy Face, Crip, Blood Verse... Oh, don't come in. Hold the side. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. That's some boy shit, bro. Don't do that. Let it land. Let it land. Don't do that. Wow. You going back. Yo, S-Dot snapped on that shit. I'm not going to lie. S-Dot had a great shot. Shout out S-Dot. That's the bro. Yeah, shout out S-Dot. All you know is where you going.

2:57:19Come on. We know you're going to choose Smiley. I was saying this to say. A lot of people chose Smiley. I'm not going to lie. No, no. I was saying this for reference so they can go look back at it. No, you ain't got to do that. And boost the views. Yeah, that's all he's doing. As a matter of fact, I'm going to upload it again on my channel. I'm going to upload it again so y 'all can go check it out. I got my money on Domi's smile child. Smiley, he'll watch a lot of these rappers that's mainstream right now. That's a fact. I agree with that. I agree with that. You know, it's on Bless. But he wasn't the hardest.

2:57:50I was the hardest, though. I bet whatever, whoever's going to bet, and I'll borrow some money from a homie that got some money. Shout out to Smiley. Smiley Horde, though. I'm going to borrow you up. Smiley Hard Smiley Hard You want to go underground Let's go to the prison system Because he was locked up 17 or 18 18 years Boom He ain't going to bar you niggas up Let's do it Big team against the motherfucking Kiwais Let's do it Alright my second Volume 2 coming soon then You going to get your elite I going to get my elite then We need the 2026 joint I want to hear you call it out I'll take you up on that tennis You heard it first.

2:58:30Beat team. You know what I'm saying? Versus us. Go with 10. Yeah, yeah. Well, I got 10. I got 10, nigga. I got 10. We right now. We going to volume two coming soon. Y 'all heard it. You called it out, so don't turn it down. And you got to be in there too, yo. You got to be in there too, nigga. You got to be in there too, nigga. No, no, no. We going to get a real video for this. And guess what? Wait, I ain't gonna bully and do 40s against families because that's easy. No, what you mean that's easy? Hey, you sound great, man. You talking crazy right now. You talking crazy right now. Hey, matter of fact, hey, look, you know what I'm gonna do?

2:59:01I'm at 5 ,000. Hey, no, no, you know what I'm gonna do? I got 5 ,000. Hey, no, don't do that. You know what I'm gonna do right now? I got 5 ,000. Hey, when I go home, I'm gonna put up your five, send me five, and I'm gonna put my five. We're gonna let the pole pick up. Name your five. Name your five right now. Hold on, where Nathan and Steven at? I'm right here. Hey, I send you my five. And I'm going to see you on five. I don't know. They a little janky. So you might have a little center to Rio. No, I'm just kidding. Hold on. In your five. Hold on. So we just doing Inglewood Family, right? Inglewood Family.

2:59:29We got platinum artists over there. I don't really care. Platinum what? We got platinum on selling artists. Man, fuck about it. You see? I'm just telling you right now. I'm just telling you right now. You say this easy, Hossie, easy. We got platinum selling artists over there. I'm trying to help you out. So we just doing Inglewood Family, right? Inglewood Family versus Fogies. That's cool. Oh, my God. No, you said, oh, my God. Oh, my God. You came back. I'm just talking about all IMs. I'm talking about all IMs. No Queen Streets, nigga. No. No neighborhood par rules. No. No, no, no, no. No none of that.

2:59:57No, hell no. Fuck no. No avenues. You can't go get Bass. You can't go get Bass. No go get Mack. No none of that. I'm only going to go get Ash Bass to fuck, bro. That was way back then. Ash Bass can rap her ass off. Ash Bass can rap. Man, she in a relationship, Munchy. She in a relationship right now, Munchy. Stop doing that. Sister in a relationship right now. I'm kicking back. That's why I ain't nailed her. Ash Bash can rap her ass off. That's why I ain't nailed her. That's why. Nah, bro. Nah, bro. You crazy, 20V. Nah, you crazy, bro. You have a 20V. I'm taking a friendly, but you ain't got it.

3:00:28No, you crazy, bro. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hold on. Smiley, Smiley. Inglewood family gets the 40s. What, what, what? What number are we going? Five? Yeah, five. Five for five? Yeah. Y 'all ain't got no more than that. Y 'all ain't got no more than that. What? Y 'all ain't got no more than that. Munchie, stop doing that, man. Stop doing that, Munchie. Bro, X4 in jail. You're in trouble. No, what you mean? No, what you mean? No, no. It's current and O. No, it's current and O. 4X just can't rap. Don't do that. Listen, don't do that, bro. Don't do that. What? 4X might be platinum right now. Off the bat.

3:00:57He might be a platinum selling artist right now. OTP. He might be a platinum selling artist right now. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. So you're going to be a boy in there? They got a beggar. Nigga, he better than Frosty, nigga. He better than Frosty, nigga. He better than Frosty, nigga. And he got hits. Yeah, nigga. Yeah, nigga. Yeah. No way. Yeah, it is what it is. He better than Frosty. He got bangers. He got bangers. He got bangers. No, no, no. Hold this. I don't want to give away too much. I want to give away too much. We're going to just do. You're five. We're doing five, right? Yes.

3:01:27Yeah, five for five. I think that's fair. I'm in here. I get in here. Hey, bro. I already fucked over Baby Runner. I watched Baby Runner. I don't think so, bro. I'm going to keep it in there, bro. Hey, hold on, hold on. Put a poll up. Who won? Baby Runner or Munchie B? Man, you can't do that with this boy. It's just... No, that's all. They all saying all IMG and shit. Nigga, Baby Runner ain't even on no jumper. No, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. The views... Now, the homie barred you up. I ain't going to lie. Shout out to Baby Runner. I ain't going to lie. I mean, I fucked, man. No, you did not, bro.

3:01:59I was in Atlanta on vacation. He let off two songs. Nah, bro. Bro, I was getting some pussy. I was in Atlanta like, damn. I'm like, no he let off off, I went to Atlanta, I'm like, damn I thought he was supposed to establish the rules. I came back and I went 3-0. I watched him in J.O. Felony. I mean, you can say what you want, but I definitely got my five. I know he's going to - Oh, J.O. Felony in there? Because - I'm not giving away that. Multi-platinum selling artists. I don't care about that. Man City, multi-platinum. No, you said - Sure, I'm sick. Five versus five. Five versus five. Five versus five.

3:02:35I'm not giving you my five right now. Just make sure you got your five. I got my five. Keep it a secret. Who going to win? So it could be unveiled when y 'all do it. Yeah, yeah. Don't put Frosty on it. Man, Frosty going to get it off the bat. He going to bag on the nigga. Don't put Frosty in there. Man, Frosty in there. Nigga, what you mean? He going to catch them all. And this format is going to be like a cypher type shit? What you talking about? Hey, that was a board. They didn't catch them. That's that board. That's that Pokemon. That's that board. I'm taking it away from you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:03:05You read those. Keep going down. Hey, bro, this nigga, nigga, bless him. Pippin, he catch him. Go up one more, I think. It's just that. Let him make you throw those real fast. Hey, we're going to put that together. No, that sounds like a great idea. Amazing. Hey, no, no, we're going to go Inglewood family. It's going to be good for the culture because, you know, gang. Yeah, unite people. We're going to do the 40s against Inglewood family. We're going to fuck y 'all over, and we're going to proceed to the next hood. Bro, y 'all not winning that. We champ city. Y 'all not winning. Hey, hey, hey.

3:03:29And we still, we going to sign up. Yeah, we're going to sort it out. We're waiting for Saga to get out. That's a great idea. That's a great idea. Hey, don't even tell us y 'all five. Yeah, yeah. Go get some niggas from San Diego. 40s is 40s. What's up, what's up, man? Yeah, I agree. Oh, okay. That mean you can't go get nobody from Centnilla, CPF. No, not that's what it is. You got to be a... Exactly. That's what I'm saying. You know, the Bornside and Avenue is not the same shit? That's what I'm trying to tell you. Just because we're in different cities. So if you can do it, he can do it. No, I don't disagree.

3:04:00Okay. I'm telling you to go on the freeway and go get them. Nigga, from the eight, you got six, eight, nine, deuces and all that. Nigga, we be flying people out for this shit. You put stipulations. No, no, no. I'm telling him to go to San Diego. They go need you. Oh, go to San Diego. We ain't going to need you. We can do it in LA. Only five? We can do it in LA. Everything on the table is what you say. We definitely going to Daco, though. Only five. If you're from the hood, everybody's on the table to be chosen. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Listen, listen, listen. Go get the 40s. I don't give a fuck if they're in Africa.

3:04:24Go get them. We're going to keep it. Nigeria, the dance hall. Berto, the frog, $5 said W pod. Shout out to y 'all, man. It's been a lit one. 3D Swayze, 27, 12, 499. Y 'all skip my super chat twice. I don't think we did. We've been reading every single one. Don't be stupid. Spam Greer, X, 9, 0, 499. Let me ask what nobody has asked. Is there some that been boiling between Munchie and Spody? Let's talk about it on IFG. No, No, no, Sparty, my boy. This is passionate potting right here. Sparty said some bullshit on DeJong shit. I did not. I didn't like it. I spit something back. I didn't go look back at his response.

3:05:03I didn't want to. And then when he caught in, I backed on him. And that was the end of it. You know what I'm saying? No, no. No, it's all good. It's all good part. And the thing he referring to on the DeJong part shit, I just gave a scenario, but I used him in that example. But, you know, I wouldn't insinuate anything. I used you in that example. and you know, of course, you got mad, you got in your feelings, but it's all love, though. I got feelings for bitches, bro, not for men. So I can never be in my feelings. You got in your feelings. Sir KTVO,$619,$5. Y 'all really forgot Pey Gotti. He on a run right now.

3:05:37He got the YNs right now. Dude's about to probably be one of the bigger dudes out the West. Shout out to Pey Gotti. Shout out to Pey Gotti. Y 'all forgot all about him, though, but he definitely could pull up on the blue side, though. Or the Hurt. Let me see. 3D Swayze said, you skipped my super chat, But Dirk got back on through no auto Dirk. L.A. isn't the whole world. Dirk was popping throughout the East Coast and Midwest. And that's what we said. Thank you. That's not national. I said out West. Again, I said not on the West Coast. I didn't even say nobody else. He didn't say the West is the world.

3:06:06He's just saying. Yeah, I just said on the West. 3D Swayze, the other one we skipped. They helped each other. My bad. Something got brought up. They helped each other after Dirk got dropped from Def Jam and he signed a Vaughn to OTF. Seeing Crazy Story went crazy. Dirk made no auto Dirk that brought him back. So, yeah, there's a little bit of both sides. Like what you said. My mother said he wasn't even signed to OTF. It's like you scratch my back, I scratch yours type shit. You know what I'm saying? He wasn't even signed to OTF though, right? There was mutual benefit to this shit. Yeah, they helped each other.

3:06:33Yeah. You could say Vaughn benefited more because, you know, Dirk put him on to that national scale, brought him on to Breakfast Club. He probably wouldn't have been, you know, so. But we're just saying that he helped Dirk as well. He definitely made Dirk step it up because Dirk seen what was going on. He caught on fast. He like, oh, hell no. Nah, that girl body you up and catch you. He gonna whoop you out, bro. You trippy. Since we on Dirk, go to the Swamp Stories, press who? The Swamp Stories got pressed at the Dirk trial. Not really. He got like the dudes that got off. Bro said he wanted to face.

3:07:04They outside the courthouse. Do we expect him to crash? Don't say nothing. Let me hear it. He said, let's go around the corner and take that. Let me hear it. They getting on that CCB. Swamp Stories pulled up with a custom-made 4KT. You know what I'm saying? 4K Trail T, young boy with the slime green. 4K Trail.

3:07:26My bad. 4K. And then he got the green rag as well. So he pretty much just taunting Dirk and shit, siding with young boy doing the clout chasing shit. He should have whooped his ass. What am I saying with you, G? Because why you even got that shit on? That's some goofy ass shit. That shit goofy as hell, though. Like, you see that this little Dirk Trail, you got a fucking 4K T. I can't stand a goofy ass bitch ass nigga These doing shit right at the fed building Motherfuckers will beat shit down your fucking leg You bitch ass nigga That's weird as hell This nigga got a whole And we not playing with you And then there was that other clip of that dude in the red and white shirt He like come on come around the corner we can take that Faye Come on come take this Faye I need that Faye He politely asking for a Faye just get off on him Yeah that's my only thing I don't promote violence I don't want to see nobody hurt Like boo you going to tagline somebody like that That's what I'm saying they really real dirt supporters because you like you should have just

3:08:34We'll get to pay it after

3:08:46like this, take that off bro, you gotta take that shit off, you gotta get it, you gotta take that off, we're on the line too. Hey, why y 'all can't even get out of here? You gotta get out of here. Why you not saying what you think? Why you even got that shit on him? That's some goofy ass shit. That shit goofy in hell though, like you see that this is a little girl trying, you got a fucking 4KT. I can't stand a - That's what you wanted.

3:09:19I like her, bro. I wish I knew her Instagram, bro. I like her. Yeah, but she sound like she was more turned up than the dudes, though. Give or take. You know, nobody want to go to jail, but in that instant, like, you as family, you as supporters, you supposed to get cracking. Hey, I like her. It sound like she from... Oh, her IG is up there? Yeah, I got you. Hey, you send it to me. Hey, no, shout out to her, bro. Shout out to Nina Ross. She a real bitch. It sounds like she from like, she's not from here. I hear her voice. Somebody says she flew out from Chicago. Yeah, it sounds like it. It don't sound like she from out here, but shout out her.

3:09:49Like, that's weak. Like, why are you doing that, bro? But that's the new thing right now is antagonizing us. Like, it's antagonizing the culture. Like, they getting paid into the future right now. It's like antagonized. Black people. Push them to the limit. They want us to act up right now. They do, so they can have a reason. You got to watch it. Don't fall into that trap. Bro, if you're not coming to court. And he was the one. Wait, wait. My bad, Munchie. He was the one that we didn't know who he was, right? No, he was faceless. Somebody exposed him type shit. And then that's how they found out.

3:10:18Now his face is out there. All of a sudden, he's doing this shit. He's been going even crazier since they exposed him. He came up to know Jumper was talking crazy. He's been everywhere just wiling. Do you think that was a purposeful exposure? There's chances that he was in cahoots with those rappers who exposed him type shit. There is rumors that he's cool with him, and it was a whole play to have his coming out party. Now look at him pivoting into, like, really fuck y 'all. Because it wasn't a Lil' Sheik that exposed him to the chat. I don't like this shit, bro. I think it's strange, bro. Niggas be making mockery of the culture and our peoples, and niggas just be, that's just crazy, bro.

3:10:54Where you at? I'm at the fucking courthouse waiting for you. You've been stealing all my fucking videos. I need that. I need that fade. Come outside. Trap Low Ross. I'm looking for you, bitch. Trap Low Ross, where you at? I'm at the fucking courthouse waiting for you You've been stealing all my fucking videos I need that I need that fade Come outside I don't know if you stole your videos But get up on them I guess Lil Sheik was the one that said That he was like the underground rapper from the Bay Lil Slug But then at the same time he posted that He sent him his real name and address Oh to prove that it wasn't Lil Slug The other dude He's the one that put that out there Yeah yeah But he And then he sent Swamp Stories like I really know who you are Oh so he's saying I just put out this bait post But I really know The real identity No no no He's saying he exposed The Swamp Story nigga And Chab stole it right?

3:11:45No no no Well Moose said yeah Yeah yeah He put out like a bait story And then sent Swamp Stories As real information Like nah I was just fucking around This is really your name I really know who you is For real And I'm gonna expose you Type shit The rapper did that? Yeah Yeah Cause he from the Bay and he live in Moran. He live in Moran in the Bay. That's where he from. I'm telling you. One of the wealthiest parts of California, Northern California. The culture is polarizing. It's a part of everybody making money. Whatever end you on, negative, positive, the culture is in the middle of everybody making money right now.

3:12:17Yeah, that's like the definition of culture vulture right there for sure. He's mocking everybody. He's talking about, pa, and then he was gone. Wait, wait, wait. Go to that man raises. I want this for Spoty just because everybody was trying to deny what Spody was talking about. Go to that man raises the flag right there. Nazi flag. That one? Yeah, right under the bloods out wrapping the crypts right now. This is at a fight in Florida. I've seen that too. But this is the Gypsy Crusader fight, right? There has to be that one. The Gypsy Crusader is like a famous Nazi guy. And look at all of the supporters.

3:12:56They say they're not out there. Adam said that. Adam said that. Adam said that. Adam said that. Adam said that. Pushes the anti-Jewish shit, anti-black shit heavily. And he just fought a Jewish dude and beat him up. Give us some context. Adam said what? Give us some context. He was on the same part. He said, because I made, last time I was here, I made the statement and I tried to make a comparison of the difference between the two. How it's a, I feel like it's an attack on our people specifically, how the RICO acts and they use these different types of tactics the government do to try to entrap our people and then unfairly, you know what I'm saying, try our people versus when you have different and more dangerous organizations out there who sometimes, a lot of times, they be legal organizations and they operate right in a public eye, but nobody says something such as biker gangs, you know, what is the Proud Boys, Ku Klux Klan, a lot of these dudes, you know what I'm saying, they in Congress, they sheriffs, they, you know, they judges, all types, and it shows, like, it's their doctors, they lawyers, it shows that They come from power, but then they don't worry about them, but they worried about the common folk like us, you know, because we had the money.

3:14:06But a lot of these guys, they have money, and a lot of this stuff is government funding. People don't even know. A lot of this stuff is government funding, and they fundraise on a government dollar, and nobody talks about it. Adam was trying to discredit me, say, basically, because I had a specific number. He's trying to say, oh, well, um. No, he's trying to pick up. That's Mr. Chad's JBC, bro. I was just saying, yeah. All the hate groups in America. Yeah, I was saying all the hate groups, and it be in your eye. Basically, I'm saying the government don't worry about them, what they need to be worried about, but they worry about rappers and things like this.

3:14:38You know what I'm saying? I just say they don't play fair. It's not an even playing field at all. It's not at all. It's not at all. And they do this on national television, bro. But what I'm going to say, you fumbled that. You said KKK. You put it on a particular group, and it's a lot of them. No, but he said it was no KKK. K, they didn't exist, and I disagree with it. But at first I said the KKK. I think that primary, like, little, little, little. Like, he's just saying the umbrella that KKK built, and then all of them fall under that pretty much. Yeah, because that's where it comes from. Everything else, just because of it.

3:15:08They the OGs of racism and hate group. I look at, like, KKK is like the Crips, and then it's a gang of gangs of Bundlery. That's how I look at it. Yeah, pretty much. But you said KKK, and they said, when he checked JBT, oh, it ain't private, whatever, whatever. But how you equate that to this right now? A little bit. Can I answer? Yeah, go ahead. My bad. So let me basically say what I'm saying, Munty. Let me give you a comparison, a better comparison. All right. It's about to be your hood day. I'm not even going to put that on there. For instance, the Inglewood police is right now is preparing to go shut your hood day down.

3:15:45If y 'all be anywhere, they're actively looking. This is a fact. They're actively looking to see where your homie's going to be at to try to crash the party and all that. with gangs, they do this. In LA, they do this. You know what I'm saying? Probably other cities will say, I'm going to just speak for LA. When you have, when blacks and Hispanics have hood days and stuff like that or hood days and celebrations, even family reunions, if it's too big, they go and set these people down or you don't have a permit, you don't have this, you don't have this, versus to where it's a thousand bikers that'll go to a certain location and they will not be messing with.

3:16:17Jake Lang just said it right now. They'll literally go to the park where ain't nobody, They just barbecuing and having fun and ain't doing nothing and trying to come set it down because it's too many. They feel like it's too many people. But you have a thousand bikers gangs, white, racist, one percenter biker gangs that drive for miles and won't get touched. And they congregate and won't get touched. You know what they do? They just look at them from afar. Or they'll protect them to make sure there's no. Exactly my point. They'll stand on the side and be like, don't fuck with them. We're going to keep it peaceful.

3:16:43Like the Orange County Nazi march. They just did that not too long ago. You know what I'm saying? And the police was like lining up to be like the counter protesters. Y 'all got to chill. But guess what? Some of the police is them. Yeah, for sure. Some of the police is them, and they protected themselves. And they know where to go, what to do. And if you look at this video, we can't play too much of it because they're doing a lot of signaling. But if you took the flag away from them, you wouldn't know who the fuck they were. They just blend in. Yeah. They would look just like a regular-ass person.

3:17:09And it wasn't that the point that I made to Adam? Yeah, that's right. Adam, last time I said, and that's the point, because they go after people that look a certain type of way and all that. Because y 'all got tats on your face. They ain't got tats on their face. And they're waiting up way more dangerous because they the cop. They the sheriff. They the lawyer. They the doctor. They everything. You know what I'm saying? They the judge. So you would never know until you see footage like this out. And there's plenty of them. And the dude beat the Jewish dude and did the salute in the ring. They ain't chasing up in here.

3:17:37They whip their ass in the tunnel. But it's like, but this is how emboldened they are. You know what I mean? Like this is emboldened because what's been happening is it's been creating a safe space for them. You know what I mean? like the Jake Lane doing the Christian Crusader thing where there's racists out there with AKs on them walking. That's a fact. Walking with AKs talking about stuff that they hate. It was downtown LA talking about, I love black people, but I hate ends. You know what I mean? Spider-Man had to whoop his ass. It was all kind of shit that goes on, and it's like, this is what they show you.

3:18:13Imagine what the intelligent motherfuckers that's behind the scenes, that's putting together real plays. Really playing ball behind the scenes. Now imagine a black and a Hispanic in Los Angeles, California, was out there with an AR-15 assault weapon. You're going to get gunned down. For sure. You're going to get gunned down. It ain't going to be how's your day going. But Adam tried to make it seem like it's not out here. He just don't see it. Well, because it's not Google-able. You know what I'm saying? It's not like, you know what I'm saying? He needs to chat GPT for everything. I'm like, how are you going to tell me something that I experienced?

3:18:39I actively see this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It was your wording, bro. It was your wording. Don't just say one particular hate group. But I expanded it. I expanded it in the same conversation. He still told me I was wrong. And look, I told him, he said, it ain't out there. They don't do it. And look, again. We went to Huntington Beach. We're like, look at Huntington Beach, this and that. But we all know from LA, if you was from LA back in the day, we all knew Culver City Police, racist. That's a fact. Torrance Police, racist. That's a fact. Linux, all that. Racist. Racist. Like, I mean, not just like, oh, fuck you.

3:19:18I mean, beat your ass, drop you off, do all kinds of shit to you. And this is not a long time ago. Not. So act like it just got eradicated in a few years. Like, oh, you think they just disappeared? These people that was doing this shit, they just gone? Munchie, would you not agree with that, though? As far as an instinct, if it's a gathering between gang members, it doesn't matter if it's black or Hispanics. Even a family grouping, the police is going to show up and try to set it down or disrupt it in any type of way, shape or fashion or form. But let a biker game, a white biker game, and most of the time, I don't want to say all of them, but in Southern California, 97 % of them are one percenters.

3:19:56Because that's the only thing that they let run out here, one percenters. So they racist or whatever the case is. They go untouched, unharmed, uninterrupted. Would you agree with that? I think what's more important, you need to put people like Flock on the car. No, for real. Put people like Flacco in the car. He don't want to go against Adam? And let him drive through Torrance. Let him drive through Cover City and these cities. And he'll see what we go through and he'll feel differently. Understand it more. No, no, no, no, no, no. For real, for real. Because for some reason, he think he don't share our struggle.

3:20:32You know what I'm saying? Like if you just act right, you wouldn't have these problems. Right, right, right. That's what he'd be trying to get off. If you got a flocko, by the face he look aggressive, whether he thinks so or not. You know what I'm saying? If he's driving through Torrance or Cover City, the cities you name, the treatment he would get when he get pulled over. And I guess he just act like, well, I ain't going to say act. Maybe he haven't experienced it, though. But I think that is more important. I ain't trying to point the motherfucking Adam. Adam, man, Adam, Adam. If Adam was born in California, he'd be a white boy from a black gang.

3:21:15That's fire. No, I don't think so. I disagree with that. Man, if Adam was born out here, bro, he'd be a Cameron Terrell. Nathan, you want to pull out the last Super Chats? Yeah, I don't think so at all. Bro, he too infatuated with this shit. He lovey. Yeah, I mean, you know how many racist black dudes in the pen used to watch BET until they had to make it a rule? Skinheads watching BET? Smiley know what I'm talking about. Because our bitches is thick. No, no, he, see, he been to the pen like I've been to the pen a long time. No, no, no. Let's just say if I was racist and then expanding bitches was known to have fat asses.

3:21:58I'm a sneaky look at these. brown girls because nigga nigga what are you looking at BET nigga but Munchy making my point for me that's what I'm saying I said that to say this you can still be racist and still you know what I'm saying you can be married to a black person like fetishized black women you know what I'm saying whatever and you don't have to have respect for them just cause you wanna fuck them type shit you still be racist you an Israelite I'm not even saying you an Israelite absolutely 1000 % I could bet my last dollar on a white bitch with a fat ass you gonna spank that thing with my belt.

3:22:33I'm not any racist, but I'm... I ain't saying you're racist, but like... I believe sex is marriage, bro. I believe it's something different. That's a whole different conversation. Marriage? No, no, I'm talking about spanking down. I said spanking. Come on, bro. Nah, fuck that. Answer the question. You asking me what I sleep with a white woman. That's basically what you're saying, right? With a big ass. A baddie. A white baddie. Nigga, I said what I said. Nigga. I'm on a spiritual journey right now, my brother. All right. Stay strong. Stay strong. Yeah, stay strong. I'm on a spiritual journey right now, man.

3:23:10K Blown 499. Best episode in a while. Spody and Munchy got that pod chemistry. Shout out to all y 'all. Shout out to you, brother. Because we like way beefing, bro. We getting our art. He good. This leading up to the fight, man. The pot off, man. The pot off, man. The pot off. I tried to turn it down. He don't want to walk away. This the fake face off right here, though. Oh, God. This is the fake face-off. But we talked about pride in the beginning. He got too much pride. I tried to let the nigga walk away. Pride? He's not a bitch. We talked about our black men have too much pride. The devil created pride, y 'all.

3:23:40It's not even pride. You said. Hey, bro, I told you. You said you was the best and couldn't nobody mess with you. I accepted the challenge. I told you to get some help. What, I supposed to concede? I told you to get some help. I don't need no help. I ain't going to lie to you right now. I 4-0'd you right now today, bro. Shoot. You what? You what? 4-0 right now. I'm up. You up on the pole 2-0. All right. There you go. You caught that a little bit. All the viewers, man, drop a comment. If you're watching this after it's live, drop a comment. Who got the W's? You got me in the chat today. You got me in the chat, but I got you on the points.

3:24:13I got you on the points today. Sam, for the pie battle, because that was preseason. Preseason? No. This is a preseason game right now. Yeah. Talking about this warm-up. No, boy. And Ricky was preseason. Oh, so you're saying they ass. They're the bench players you're playing. Look at this game one. All right. All right. Beck. Beck. Beck. Yeah, yeah. Bet it up. Bet it up. Because now I'm all in. Because now I'm all in. Bet it up. Stop down. Bet it up. Because now you got me excited, nigga. Because now. I want you at your best. I want the best version of you. I want the best version of you. No, no, no.

3:24:51Now I ain't showing no mercy. I'm just, all right. And it is what it is. I don't want no mercy. Okay. All right, to the viewers, that was preseason. This is game one. Munchy beats Sporty Face. Nigga, Munchy - Pot off. Nigga, nigga, nigga. The base style. Pot off just baseball. Nigga, nigga, nigga. Minister Sporty Con, Munchy - Absolutely. I'm going to whoop him down. On Inglewood. Hey, let's go. Yeah, this is a great episode, man. Yeah, nigga, I'm going to fuck him over. No, you're not. Watch the kind of belt I wear that day. Hey, you better. And listen, and listen, I don't want nothing to do with no type of topic, so people think I got an upper hand and all that.

3:25:27I'm going to leave that to y 'all. Yeah, we're going to source them from good places and make sure we got some fire topics for sure. No, no, no, no. It's on Rios and Moose Man. They go do their thing. I'm comfortable with them too coming up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll choose unbiased shit. And don't tell us beforehand. Okay, for sure. But it'll be in your guys' wheelhouse. That's a debate. You can't because you can say something about the stars. And if I don't know about astronomy, nigga, in a debate, bro, you prepared the subject. Yeah, if it's specific stories You got to at least tell us The category is pop culture Yeah, yeah, yeah It's something You got to at least We'll figure it out We'll figure it out, y 'all We'll figure it out We'll work through it I don't give a fuck what it is We'll get the kinks out Nigga, we gonna have Rios We gonna have Moose Nigga, do their thing Nigga, you gonna cry about it Or you gonna write about it Man, I'm in there It don't matter what However way you want it I'm gonna give it to you Just like that, Munchy You said no preparation Nigga, no preparation They gonna come over to see Nigga, and we ain't gonna know nothing We gonna come in here We're going to be ready to pod, nigga.

3:26:23Fuck all that, nigga. It's if you got intel or you don't, nigga. Listen, Munchy. Somebody going to lose or somebody going to win. Listen, no pun intended. I know you be going to shit blind, but I usually don't do that, Munchy. Hey, bro. That's why the blind leading the blind did so good on the first good run. Shout out to the blind leading the blind. Dropping tomorrow. Hold on. Blind leading the blind. The second, what? Tomorrow. Dropping tomorrow. Nigga, that was a good one, nigga. Stop acting like that wasn't a good one, nigga. Nigga, stop acting like that was a good one, nigga. Stop acting like that was a good one, nigga.

3:26:51W promo. W promo. W promo, man. Stop acting like that one. The good one, nigga. Blind leading the blind tomorrow, man. The good one, nigga. Man, damn. See, I can't stop talking. Come using them up. I had seen it in the cut. I had seen it in the tape. I got to stop using them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to say it. Yeah, I'm going to say it. Don't play all the cards. Nigga, that was a good one, nigga. That was a good one. Stop acting like that one. The good one. Don't play all the cards, man. La La Lissa. I'm proud of you for the promo. La La Lissa, 420 member for 47 months. God damn. Woo! Shout out her.

3:27:22Shout out Moose Man, Rios, Munchie B, and Spody. This is the first time the Tuesday pod been entertaining without Adams. Fire Doughboy, he lame AF. Oh, man. Hey, fuck Adam, bro. This is the new Tuesday show. Shout out to the guys, man. Hey, shout out for letting me fall through, y 'all. Hey, no, fuck Adam. This is the new Tuesday show. Hey, appreciate y 'all, man. Run it. Q Bands, 00499. Spody, you put it on your kids, 40 Crip. You want to return to No Jumper. How it feel? Bend in the knee, coming back. What happened? Show me the footage. I never said that. I didn't hear it I don't remember that either Square Game G2 499 You may need to reconsider that pot off Munchie Because Spody Luther King is cooking you tonight Cooking nigga Cooking Turtles in the chat

3:28:04I walk shit down I ain't never turned down I ain't never turned down nothing but a backstreet Don't worry about it We gonna do it now I ain't gonna lie He got the quotes Yeah, he got you a little one-liner. Niggas been on Zip, www.quotcoach.com. Niggas, that's all I think I've been... Niggas, you've been studying the Quotate ass, nigga. He got the quotes on it, for sure. Who the fuck? Everybody's grown fast. I was fired. He got the one-liners online. I love the competition, bro. Niggas, nigga. And nigga, up to it. This ain't no Doug Boy, Sporty Face shit. That shit was trash. Yeah, we gonna do it up.

3:28:43Niggas, Munchy and Sporty Face, I'm about to smash him. But nigga, I love he Both formidable opponents for sure Both gonna go crazy, man Yeah, that's pork Shout out, man, Rios, man Spody, Turtle in the building Shout out Munchie B Shout out Smiley, man Shout out Nathan Beyond the Boards I'm Moose, man, man This has been the Tuesday show Very lit, man Like the stream, guy Lit like a barbecue pit

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0:00 Keefe D Telling on Himself & Clout Chasing
8:28 Big Meech, 50 Cent & Losing Your Mystique
25:34 Tupac’s Legacy, Death & Career
30:23 Tupac, Gang Culture & What Led to His Death
38:04 Pride in Street Culture & Knowing When to Walk Away
45:52 Ricky vs Doboy Pod-Off Debate
1:03:00 Fixing the Pod-Off Format & Future Matchups
1:28:24 Fake 49ers Player Scams Women Out of $1.3M
1:36:07 Men vs Women Scamming Debate
1:55:45 Lil Durk Trial & Vonni’s Testimony
2:00:51 Did King Von Take Lil Durk to the Next Level?
2:26:25 Quando Rondo, Street Code & Dropping His Flag
2:45:50 Blood vs Crip Rappers on the West Coast
2:58:18 Blood vs Crip Rap Battle Idea
3:06:53 Swamp Stories Trolls Lil Durk’s Trial
3:12:22 Hate Groups, Racism & Different Policing Standards
3:23:29 Spoety Face vs Munchie B Pod-Off Faceoff
3:28:50 Outro

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