In short
The hosts debate the Little Durk trial and “murder-for-hire” vs stalking charges, argue about anti-snitching/court testimony, and then shift into internet beef and music-industry talk—especially AI music charts and whether hip-hop “superstardom” can be replaced by AI.
Guests (as discussed on the show)
No formal guests are introduced in the transcript. The episode features recurring hosts/speakers: Wack 100 and Adam (and mentions of others in clips/chats). They also reference people they discuss: Lil Durk, King Von, FBG Cash, FBG Duck, Mama Duck, Crip Mac, Charleston White, Hassan Campbell, Doody Lo, Doughboy, Ricky, Moose, and Timberland (mentioned as connected to an AI company).
Key claims
- Lil Durk is “cooked” but may beat murder-for-hire; stalking “led to murder” still carries life.
- Dirk’s “realism” and rapping about street life create mystique; fans and law enforcement watch songs/chats for implications.
- Mama Duck is “clout chasing,” and her OnlyFans/back-channel claims are discussed.
- Crip Mac is upset about jokes and content scheduling; he won’t sit with Charleston White.
- AI music can top niche charts via marketing/sales manipulation; hip-hop “superstar” status won’t fully transfer to AI.
Notable examples
- Court played a song (“We Did It”) with a “yeah, you know that we did it” chorus.
- A “Mama Duck” argument clip is referenced (Duck Hunt/Nintendo “Duck Hunt” comparisons).
- AI song “Walk My Walk” allegedly reached #1 on a Billboard country digital sales chart (described as niche/possibly bought).
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOHomeowner Struggles
0:45 to 3:18
Discussion about the challenges and frustrations of home ownership.
“Oh, well, yeah, you got to deal with all that shit.”
Civilians and Street Life
3:18 to 4:06
Exploration of the relationship between civilians and street culture, and the expectations placed on them.
“We're going to look at you, the relative, and expect you to handle your business.”
The Anti-Snitch Debate
4:06 to 7:00
In-depth discussion on the anti-snitching attitudes in the rap community and their implications.
“And you know down here in Southern California, let's be real.”
Realism in Rap
7:00 to 9:16
Debate on how authenticity and realism in lyrics impact artists' careers and public perception.
“be so stupid to have rapped about this stuff or done this stuff?”
Conflict with Mama Duck
9:16 to 12:26
Hosts discuss a controversial exchange involving Mama Duck and its implications.
“But today in court, they played the song, it's called We Did It.”
Heated Exchanges and Reactions
12:26 to 14:01
Continuation of the discussion around heated exchanges and the social dynamics involved.
“I mean, you know, she be violating people, bro.”
Heated Arguments and Accusations
14:01 to 16:49
The hosts engage in a heated discussion filled with accusations and personal jabs.
“Get Hey Mama I I come from the honey side of the clubhouse, bitch.”
Nostalgia and Gaming
16:50 to 19:10
The conversation shifts to a nostalgic recollection of old video games and consoles.
“Mike Tyson, Punch-Out, Super Mario Brothers, Duck Hunt, Excite Bite, the original shit.”
Critique of Public Figures
19:11 to 20:34
The hosts critique the public persona of Mama Duck and discuss her rise to fame post-tragedy.
“with the strap on, trying to go through the metal detector, bro.”
Crip Mac's Reputation
20:35 to 21:42
The hosts discuss Crip Mac's reputation and his interactions with fans and public figures.
“I would like to see evidence of Mama Duck having a back page.”
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Content Creation and Interviews
21:43 to 24:12
A discussion on the dynamics of interviewing Crip Mac and content creation challenges.
“I've been thinking he started hitting Lupe.”
Mental Health and Personal Struggles
24:13 to 27:39
The hosts analyze Crip Mac's mental health and his struggles with personal identity.
“He said Baby Snap says it's not okay or some shit.”
Legal Troubles of Lil Durk
27:40 to 28:00
The hosts discuss the legal situation facing Lil Durk and the implications of his charges.
“I kind of think she has like a hot voice.”
Legal Troubles: The Stalking Charge
28:00 to 30:19
Discussion on Dirk's potential legal outcomes regarding murder and stalking charges.
“I think he's going to beat the murder for hire because they can't show where he paid anybody, but they superseding him with a stalking charge that led to murder that also carries life.”
The Pressure and Motives Behind Violence
30:20 to 33:00
Exploration of the motivations behind Dirk's associates' reluctance to commit violence.
“Ack thinks it will be a W if Dirk gets 20 years.”
The Impact of Informants and Consequences
33:01 to 35:39
Analysis of the repercussions of informants on gang and street dynamics.
“kwando rondo little tim etc okay so I guess he felt like that's my homie.”
Doody Low's Controversial Public Image
35:40 to 39:26
Debate about Doody Low's actions and public behavior following a legal situation.
“And now he's screaming, he's going to be just as big as 6 '9 when he gets out.”
The Future of Rap: Concerns and Pessimism
39:27 to 42:00
Discussion on the current state and future of the rap industry amidst evolving trends.
“I don't think anybody thinks their music is going to work anymore.”
Doughboy's Debate Performance
42:00 to 43:39
Discussion on Doughboy's recent performance in a debate and his understanding of various topics.
“I don't know what he was getting paid, but shit, that's what it was.”
AI Artists in the Music Industry
43:40 to 45:31
Exploring the concept of AI-generated artists and their potential impact on the music industry.
“It just feels like that's the only artist that he knows on the West Coast.”
The Future of AI and Music
45:32 to 47:26
Discussion about the implications of AI in music creation and the changing landscape of the industry.
“I'm telling you, this is how I got on the phone with Timbo, and he's telling me he's part of that company.”
Changing Definitions of Superstars
47:27 to 49:57
Analyzing how the definition of a music superstar is evolving in the current industry climate.
“He created the character, owns the name, music is registered.”
The Decline of Album Sales
49:58 to 52:08
Discussion on the decreasing album sales in the music industry and the shift towards other forms of content.
“I'm saying it will never be an AI superstar in rap.”
The Shift in Music Consumption
52:09 to 56:00
Exploring the shift from music albums to podcasts and video content as the preferred medium for fans.
“So, I just think all this shit, I think we're going to look up, and it's going to be some AI-generated fucking podcasters.”
The Shift from Music to Podcasting
56:00 to 57:49
Explore the transition from music consumption to podcasting in modern media.
“two hour podcast might seem more appealing than listen to the album.”
Analyzing Game's Album Sales
57:50 to 1:02:20
A deep dive into the financial implications of Game's album sales and industry standards.
“They're not listening to fucking music or streaming no music.”
The Mystery of the Missing Drake Verse
1:02:21 to 1:04:38
Discussing the implications of a potentially altered verse from Drake on Game's album.
“the Drake verse that he didn't put on the album?”
Kendrick Lamar's Relationship with Game
1:04:39 to 1:10:04
Insight into the complex relationship between Kendrick Lamar and Game, highlighting loyalty and rivalry.
“I think Drake knows that the game song, that a game song might be a weird place for him to really like turn up on.”
Water Quality Discussion
1:10:04 to 1:10:39
Exploration of water purity and discussions about different water types.
Keefe D's Guilty Verdict
1:10:40 to 1:12:48
Analysis of Keefe D's guilty verdict in the Tupac case and implications.
“But this is ionized alkaline water with pH quality guaranteed.”
Suge Knight's Cooperation
1:12:49 to 1:14:48
Details on Suge Knight's cooperation with authorities in the Tupac case.
“He probably ain't going to make it, right?”
Street Codes and Media
1:14:49 to 1:16:56
Discussion on the changing dynamics of street codes and media interactions.
“Well, I mean, I think there's been some reporting of that statement.”
Blueface's Controversial Behavior
1:16:57 to 1:19:19
Conversation about Blueface's antics and the public's reaction to them.
“Like the DA, that's the district attorney.”
Upcoming Blue Girls Club Event
1:19:20 to 1:20:18
Announcement about Blueface's upcoming reality show project in Miami.
“shout out to Blueface our numbers are up crazy he's headed out to do a 20 day 24 hour stream in good old Yammy Miami Bluefaces?”
Race Issues and Community Events
1:20:19 to 1:24:01
Debate on community events and perceived racial tensions in Los Angeles.
“You gonna see him selecting them over the next couple days.”
Discussion on Community and Support
1:24:01 to 1:29:35
Explore the dynamics of community support and racial identity in Los Angeles.
“If they can get permitted for the run, then what the way I don't is it vendors or is people that's passing out drinks and shit?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00I'm gonna call you when I come out of here. I'm in here with this white dude with this f***ed up beard named Adam. Alright, alright. I don't think he gave shit. This guy. We good? We alive? Ah, I feel like I got... Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. I wish I had like a spray bottle. I could like spray myself in the face. I feel like I gotta wake up. You been f***ing... You probably been down there all goddamn day. Doing what? Well, you know what I'm saying? You. I've been up all f***ing day. I had a f***ing leak. I've been dealing with plumbers and drywall and people got blowers in my ceiling and shit. You got blowers in your ceiling?
0:36Yeah. At FBI. Hmm? Blowers is like, it pulls the moisture and blows the air. I've had those kind of blowers too. You know what I'm talking about? We had a flood. Big ass green things and shit. They got a whole thing taped to this. It's crazy. Buy a home, they said. Huh? Buy a home, they said. Oh, well, yeah, you got to deal with all that shit. Yeah, and it's like a huge pain in the ass. That's why I probably, in my opinion, I probably wouldn't buy a house again. No? It's too much of a pain in the fucking ass, man. Give me a two-bedroom apartment. A 20-year lease? I don't know. Something like that.
1:16That's just me. What's going on with your shirt right here? You're pretending to be anti-snitching all of a sudden? What do you mean? Are you cosplaying as somebody who's anti-talent? Who's talent? I mean, I feel like you've kind of chosen a side. You're a civilian now in our game. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not a civilian. No? Hell no. I just understand civilian life. But I don't put the life of the streets on civilians, and that's where people go wrong at. You know what I mean? Either they're bringing civilians into the world or the streets, and then they get mad when a civilian responds like a civilian.
1:55You get what I'm saying? It's crazy. and then people have to understand just because a motherfucker's playing a role like 6ix9ine was playing a role at a time you know that he's a civilian that's like right now playing a role like as if life is a movie and everybody is just allowed to like use that as an excuse I suppose a lot listen this is real shit it's been many a times I know the block is hot and my homies got their relatives there or whatever, right? You know, we know them. Hey, bro, get them up off the block. What you mean? Because if something happened, you gonna turn that barrel on him.
2:37That's a witness. So you know this block is hot. You know what we've been doing. You know they coming through. You may, motherfucking may come through. We may, we may get the upper hand. We got a body in the car. Now your relative is sitting here. A body in the car? What you think happens, bro? Just hanging out with a dead body in the car? No, when people hit the corners and shootings happen, sometimes people get hit. Now you got your relative here who's a civilian. He ain't from the set. Yeah, we know him, but he's seen it. He sees the shooters, right? So, see, I'm the guy that's going to say, hey, get them dudes off the block.
3:16Because if something happens, we ain't letting that ride. We're going to look at you, the relative, and expect you to handle your business. Okay. Right? So I'm just a guy that I understand what it is, and I don't put that life on civilians. I'll tell the civilians. Okay, so tell me about your shirt. What is the shirt? What does it represent to you? That represents a black dude on the stand. I don't think it's really meant to be like a black. Yes, it is. I think it's just a silhouette. No, it's meant to be a black dude. It's a silhouette. Because I can't politic white or Mexican dudes. Their politics vary depending on who you're talking to.
3:58Why are you still pretending you're in prison after all these years, man? That has nothing to do with prison. That's real life. We're all just people. Why you got to be like, oh, I can't politic what a white man does? I can't. Their rules are the rules. And you know down here in Southern California, let's be real. The white dudes we deal with when we're doing time, they're from everywhere. where you give me an area where, like you can say, you can go find the Great Streets and the Jordan Downs. You can go find the black Peacetstones in the jungles, right? You give me an area where it's like, you can go find these white boys over here.
4:35I know. Like, what is that? We have no turf. You can't, right? What is that? We gotta go take over some sets. No, what it is, they're asking them where they at. They're actually doing a great job. We're online. We're on Reddit. We know they exist. now the Hispanics yeah you can find that but you know at the end of the day it's just a great shirt man it's a great statement you know I'm pretty sure little Dirk now understands just because a person comes with the persona doesn't mean that's what it is well he was always Mr. Anti-Snitching like in the academics interview he talks about his dad and how his dad wasn't around for like his whole childhood and how much he hates snitches because he blames a snitch for his dad not being there for his childhood, which would cause a lot of people to ask, shouldn't you be mad at your dad for committing the crimes that landed him in prison and not the person who told?
5:28Well, Dirk definitely has been anti-snitching, but we have to make him wear his hat of a snitch whisperer. That's what he is? He's a snitch whisperer? Yeah, I just created that right now. Dirk? Yeah. because his you feel like his lawyers are snitching on his behalf no no no not that's some bullshit okay not that thing if i know right i got some involvement in a situation you try you vlad academics y 'all the best at it and there's nothing wrong because of a answer that's on you right and you go up on academics one of the largest platforms and Axe says, yeah, man, I know it gets to you when they be like, you know, slide for Vaughn in the comments and you know you didn't have some involvement to some extent and some and you say you ain't been hearing that much lately, had you?
6:27You know they say you can't say that no more. Okay, so now I want to ask you, Adam. Gangster. No, that's also gangster. That's a snitch whisperer. You get what I'm saying? Because now, I bet everybody that was involved and you listening to Jams when he says, I got love for him, but I don't fuck with how he does shit. I know he like, yo, bro, why you say that? Okay, this is the thing. You get what I'm saying? There's a lot of people who say, how could Dirk be so stupid to have rapped about this stuff or done this stuff? Here's the thing. You did it, you did it. But here's the thing. Does he become the little Dirk that he was at the height of his career without A, getting his enemies knocked off, and B, rapping about it?
7:20Because I would say that really both of those added so much mystique to him that it was inseparable. I'd rather be C-list artist and free. I'm with you but the fact that he did this shit is what made him have such a mysterious aura to the band then B-list artists ain't looking at life right and certain things like when you know you had some involvement you just don't do so I ain't calling him I call him a whisperer because he kind of did it to himself but it also involved others you get what i'm saying i i get it that you don't want to get people killed or whatever me neither i'm just saying that it's like the fans love realism and the fans who are really paying attention same thing with king vaughn same thing with like you know poosh iasty whatever they love a dude who seems like he's really living that life and really doing the craziest shit and it's like the fans it's not like they didn't notice that like a ton of the people that Dirk and Vaughn were beefing with were ending up dead and shit.
8:32It's like, you know, the fans are kind of tapped in. I mean, you know, they wasn't just beefing with Dirk. You know what I'm saying? They were beefing with all kinds of people. When FBG Cash comes up dead, like right at the beginning of his fucking career, when FBG gets killed, it's like, to the real drill fans, this just builds up the OTF King Vaughn side. But look what people do, right? them dudes could have got killed because of whatever. It couldn't even have nothing to do with Dirk. What they're going to do, because they know they didn't do it, they're really going to make a song about it now.
9:10Because in their head, we ain't do it, but we're going to ride on the perception that we did. But today in court, they played the song, it's called We Did It. And the chorus of the song is just, yeah, you know that we did it. We did it. It's like, and they made it right after little Pab got killed and they knew what they were doing. They know that they're, they're planning on not getting caught, but they know that the fans who are really paying attention are going to take that as a clear cut omission that they did it. And the law enforcement are, they're paying attention to the chat. They're paying attention to YouTube.
9:50They're paying attention to the videos. they're paying attention to everything that's their leads you know what I'm saying I know you got some bullshit up because I've never seen you with a laptop on the table so I don't know what you got up oh yeah that's crazy I thought maybe you was looking at that OnlyFans of Doug's Mama I'm watching Obama and a Lowrider thought you was looking at the Frog Dog but um you know looking at this this whole thing is like damn. Can you bring up the clip of him arguing with Mama Duck because I honestly didn't listen to it. Also shout out damn homie in the chat. Oh bro that shit is like diabolical.
10:32This is some of my worst best work. What just beefing with an elderly woman? I warned her bro. You know what I mean? She's a lovely woman. She's a frog dog. What does frog dog mean? Pull it up. A frog dog? Yeah. Maybe Nathan can pull it up. Yeah. I don't think we should be comparing her to animals. I mean, I told him my favorite game on Nintendo. Duck Hunt? How'd you know? Well, when you walked in the office today, I went and you go, Duck Hunt. I was like, what's that? I don't know why I did that. I don't normally do that. Yo, Axe started. He didn't really start it. He just asked. He said, yo, Wack, they were saying that Duck murder was sloppy.
11:17See that? Frog dogs. See that to the right? I don't know. Just like her. How do you know about that? The top. Yeah? Look just like her. Where did you find out about Frog Dogs? Looking at her. I'm like, she got to be the first cousins of the Frog Dogs. If you weren't a wealthy music mogul, then you would probably be married to somebody who looked like Mama Duck. Hell, I'm glad you said somebody. I'm not Mama Duck. That's my homegirl. You just said somebody that looked like Mama Duck. meaning you know that that's not a normal look. What I'm saying is that I don't think you specifically got any room to talk about her looks.
11:54Oh, shit. Y 'all are on about the same level. Bro, listen. Her sister on there didn't see the troll coming. You both could stand to lose a little weight. You both ain't exactly serving face. I'm down 25 pounds. Yeah, her too. I said, sister, keep it real. Does Mama Doug look like y 'all daddy? She said, yes, she does. I said, there it go. And she also got the voice of a broke Peterbilt with f***ed up emissions with a broke Jake break coming down an 8 % downgrade. Well, you got to compare it to her old car or something. That's a Peterbilt. You know, you're in the pipes. You're in the pipes. What's a Peterbilt?
12:32That's a diesel. That was like an engine? 10-inch stack throat. I mean, you know, she be violating people, bro. She's not no elder to me. She just look old. she two years older than me bro she's a nice lady she two years older than me for real braw don't even help her look at that shit that's bad work i mean her hair wasn't on that day when she did the interview with me she had a full head of golden locks
13:00she got a ball of lint just stuck right you don't like a woman who uh who sounds like she's About to cough up a lung at any moment. I told her whatever dude hit her and listening to them moans was really in the men. Nah. Shit. She likes young boys. Not young boys, but like young men. She likes like a 30-year-old, I think. Listen, man. I tried to be cool, but she wanted to smoke, and I'm an asshole by nature. Should we listen to this? We can, man. I said some any shit. Well, that's a seven-minute thing. Shout out to the Huntside. Yeah, we need to let this shit roll. Yeah, we went biro. Oh, okay.
13:40I didn't actually keep it. I'm being that guy. Yo, look at this asshole. Act is such an asshole, bro. Because he's making the faces. I tried to stand with you. I just kept it real. Your son was in the street. Street shit out, but that's cool. You popping it the way you popping it. You want to talk about kids? You talking about my son? Your son fertilizer. Rest in piss. Dead ass nigga. Stupid ass nigga over there shopping nigga like it ain't hot outside. You want to pop? I'm popping the truth about your son. You accuse my son of being gay My son ain't gay Shout out to the community But I ain't got a gay one Act you knew it My son was gay His brother would have been famous a long time ago But since you wanna pop lies They gonna pop realism about your dead ass Focalizing ass son Bad face ass bitch Now I'm gonna give the world something to talk about You got the You look more man than me bitch More more man Hot the cigarette smoking Come cousin ass bitch You fucking thigh wide wide The best.
14:42Oh, man.
14:48Why are they both yelling? There's like multiple people.
15:06The problem is, he was a duck, bitch. He hunt. He ain't never seen duck hunt. I play Nintendo, bitch. Ducks get hunted. Boom. Yosemite Sam. Ducks get hunted. Boom. Double barrel shotgun Yosemite Sam. Moose taught me this. Oh, yeah? Moose taught me this. Get hunted. Double barrel shotgun. Boom. Yosemite Sam. Yosemite Sam. Boom. Get
15:43Hey
16:03Mama I
16:35I come from the honey side of the clubhouse, bitch. We violating anything planned with us. Bitch, I got a Nintendo in the backyard. And my favorite game is Duck Hunt. Double - You said I got a Nintendo in my backyard? Yeah, I got the old original. Mike Tyson, Punch-Out, Super Mario Brothers, Duck Hunt, Excite Bite, the original shit. But do you got it on like a projector or something? No, I got a big-ass game room in my backyard, bro. That's crazy. That's cool. I got three dedicated big-ass TVs with every console you can imagine on each one. Why you got to be disrespecting my homie, FBG Doug, man?
17:10I think the problem is women these days, women that think they're more men than women, they think that they can get away with something because they're female. Nah, bro. Once you cross that line. What did she say about you, though? She got mad because Ak asked me about how he got killed. He said, you think it was sloppy. I said, these street dudes don't feed into sloppy and neat. as long as they killed the dude they wanted to kill. That's all they care about. That's all I said. Next thing I know, next day she went crazy. I mean, calling it a sloppy hit is not offensive. That's pretty fucking obvious.
17:46I told them. I said, I don't think they gauge it on. They're not fucking assassins or green Navy SEALs or some shit. They just, yeah, they don't give a fuck how they get you. That's all I said. They're in way over their head trying to kill somebody in an area like that. Like that. Bro, you got to remember, the first time and only time I met this woman, I saved her. From who? Hassan Campbell, three years ago. What was he going to do? What? Man, they brought that woman on Clubhouse. We talking about when Hassan was in his bag on some savage shit. I got Hassan to pipe down, apologize to her, and leave her alone.
18:24So when she started talking crazy about me, I gave her what she want. Everybody calling and texting me, Ken Yeller. Y 'all are, listen, you my guy, but you the last one to say nothing to me. If somebody say something about you and yours, you're going to definitely pop off back. Yeah. They give her special honorary status. She don't give no special shit. She's like a Lauren London. Lauren don't act like that. She don't even talk. But that's a good point. That's why it's easy to give Lauren London that status where anybody who talks shit about her has anything negative to say about her would come off as very, very inappropriate.
19:04She's carried herself so well over the years and has always been very discreet. Mama Duck, obviously, playing a little bit of a different style of character. She running around with the young M.A. with the strap on, trying to go through the metal detector, bro. Frog dog. She's fun, though. I like her. I mean, listen, at the end of the day, like I told her, before your son died, we didn't know who the fuck you was. Your son died, you pulling the duty low? She became a star in her son's wake. She's running around. You want us to think you grieving. You ain't grieving. You clout chasing. She's probably still grieving, right?
19:43Her son died. She got her OnlyFans and all kind of shit, bro. She's not naked on the OnlyFans. I don't think she's naked on the OnlyFans. I hope the fuck she ain't. From what I've been told, no. I hope she ain't. She's clothed. It ain't what they say. She had a back channel or whatever that shit is. Some crazy shit. A back channel? What is that? A big back? No, some type of other shit. That's different. Freaky type shit. Nah. You know she was on, but at the end of the day. She's a great woman. I mean, that's cool, but she need to understand that she has started some fires, bro. You know, I ain't tolerate.
20:18You ain't. Listen, when it comes to the internet, I got a certain reputation to uphold. And I'm going to ask you to be cool, and after that, it's up. all that it's a female and a woman fuck all that that woman ain't my elder she two years older than me she's appeared to me 51 I'm 49 what you mean no it ain't we gotta get you guys on a pod together you know what I'm saying you were saying she's on Backpage didn't they take Backpage down she said it last night they said 16 shot him after I packed her ass up she went on an interview with him right after and she admitted it to him He must have asked her.
20:58I would like to see evidence of Mama Duck having a back page. That doesn't sound real. That's a prostitution website. I got a very different DM. From who? Like six of them. Yeah? From your guy. Who? Crip Mac. What's he talking about? He was very respectful. He was, first he asked me if I said something or did something, and I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. Then he sent me a voice note. You know, he kind of like apologized and said, oh, there was some dudes trolling. He sent me a message the other day saying that his fans were telling him that I was talking shit about him. I was like, no, that's not the case.
21:40Then he, okay, you know the lady who got killed in Times Square? She had the two knives. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fat Mexican lady. Yeah. I posted that on my... Spoty face. Go ahead. What? Go ahead. We're going to talk about him. The lady with the two knives, the fat Mexican lady, she basically like I post it on my story and I say shooting Lupe is crazy it looked like Lupe ha ha Crip Mac hits me so mad saying you ain't gonna disrespect Lupe he's like super pissed off is that his girlfriend now? Lupe? No he claims that's his wife I just saw him he has another woman who looks like Lupe oh that ain't her she's from Pomona she's King Pills Ops she's from 25.7 so this lady I've been thinking is Lupe is not Lupe no there's an evil Lupe with the big four arms evil Lupe oh shit I thought that was Lupe listen when I tell you I just took a screenshot I took a screenshot 30 minutes ago saying is he with Lupe Naomi Ochocho Ochoa is her Instagram name oh bro they're out here living there truth on him.
22:56I've been thinking he started hitting Lupe. No, it's different. Why can't I scroll down? She only got a few things on him. Either way, so Crip Matt got so mad about me making that joke and he was just like, I'm never going back. I was like, bro, it's a joke. He's like, oh, okay. He gets over it right away. I don't know. He's mad as f*** because I didn't do an interview with him for the last month and it's kind of like, bro, I can't interview you every week. Well, what's happening is what you did with him at the beginning, it was more content there. It was more original content there. It's kind of like, what are we going to talk about right now?
23:35The character you are, people are used to you. And unless you got something going on, it's like we're just sitting here rambling. I like interviewing him. It's just that I don't know that we always have stuff to talk about. So it's like you want to spread it out. And it feels like that's really not cool for him. He wants to like really do a lot of content. He wants me to interview him. He wants you to interview him. Bro, I got it. I can show you. He said he checked in with the 55th Street Generals. And they said it's okay for him to do content with WAC 100? That's what he said. I mean, he won't sit down with Charleston White.
24:12Huh? He won't sit down with Charleston. He won't? No. He said Baby Snap says it's not okay or some shit. Yeah. I mean, hey, listen. I told him I ain't never really had no issue with you. You know. I mean, between me and you, I just like you interviewing him. No, he's going to have to come on our show. Okay, but this is the thing. Is that Crip Mac, the fans at home who really like have watched my content with him over the years, they know so much about Crip Mac. You don't. So like it would be kind of boring. You don't know shit about Crip Mac. Are you crazy? The fuck are you talking about? I mean, it's just you have like a very like surface level knowledge of him.
24:51You know how long have I been watching, dude? you don't have the knowledge that I have me and him have built up a level of rapport that is almost like a brotherhood I'm not bullshit with you that's why I personally am not like fiending to see Wack interview Crib Mac I know I could do a great Crib Mac interview no you're not because you're scared to ask him certain things because that's your friend what would I be scared to ask Crib Mac about you ain't gonna ask him the real shit We don't have that kind of relationship. If anything, I ask him to real shit, and he won't really comment on a lot of street shit.
25:27Why would you brought Swamp on here and they're interviewing? Together? Hell yeah. I don't know. What are they going to do? What the fuck do you mean? Let Swamp drill him about that piece he put up? I mean, I don't even think, like, would he care? Who would who care? Like, I don't think, like, what is Swamp Story going to say? Like, yeah, I made a video where I revealed a bunch of old Facebook posts you made, whatever. No, people want to know about every part of that segment. That was a very interesting segment. I don't think there's that many people that are really dying to explore the Swamp Stories Krip Mac video meta that deeply.
26:03I just feel like that's not like. This is the thing. It's not like prime time. Listen, I think Krip Mac's a whole character and he's a whole other person. And I think he went through some trials and tribulations trying to figure out who he is and who he wants to be. I can tell by his voice note and his demeanor and him talking to me. Like, this is a whole other dude right here, right? Right. I think he's in tune with some of the things he does, but his wires are crossed because he'll violate and disrespect Hoover 50 times and then say, I got love for Jab 5. Right. Right? Because he got his ass whooped by Jab 5.
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26:43Yeah, so I really believe that he's a functioning bipolar case. Yeah. Without clowning. He'll tell you that. You know what I'm saying? And he's schizophrenic. And I think he's constantly dealing with twisted thoughts, real thoughts, and a couple voices trying to guide him to do something and then him fighting himself. I think he's in a daily fight the day he struggled with himself. I think he mean well, but it's like the dude on, remember on Police Academy? The dude that couldn't talk and he'll just blurt some shit out? You know where weirdly similar is Crip Mac and Doughboy. Nah, get the fuck out of here.
27:29Because I feel like Doughboy is being tormented by demons on a day-to-day basis as well. And I told her on the clip that Mama Duck, you sound like Crip Mac. I did say that. I probably said that to her in the past as well. She definitely sounds like Cripp Maxx. I wasn't told her. I kind of think she has like a hot voice. Hot? Yeah. You know, whatever. You talking about an overheated voice. Yeah. But okay. 51 Cleveland. Okay. So how are you feeling about the Dirk trial at this point? Do you feel like he's just fully cooked or do you feel like there's hope? I think he's going to beat the murder for hire because they can't show where he paid anybody, but they superseding him with a stalking charge that led to murder that also carries life.
28:17And between Vonnie and Jam, they have more than proven stalking. Right? I think he's going to beat the murder for hire. Okay. Because everybody's saying they didn't get paid. You know what I'm saying? Nobody got paid, right? You don't have to get paid. Well, I don't know. Nobody said they heard it come out of his mouth that he was going to give him a million, a half a million. And when I heard that, I said, these dudes ain't got either. They don't got no respect for Dirk. But Vonnie is saying that. And Vonnie was extremely close to him, lived with him, spent tons of time with him, which is, it stands out as different than Jam, where it feels like Jam's relationship with him was more like the rapper entourage type guy because they apparently didn't spend a whole lot at one time.
29:08Whereas I feel like Vonnie, that was like his day-to-day point guy. So when he says that Dirk explicitly made it clear that he wanted them to kill Kwon Do, it kind of hits differently than the jam thing. But here's the thing. Here's the thing you gotta factor into that. They were all Von's homies. So they all had a motive to want to kill Kwon Do. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? It's not like it's a dude that's banging dirt but not all of them like jam didn't know vaughn you know it's like i feel like but jam jam didn't talk directly to dirt they all describe the same scenario in which dirk is really really bothered by the fact that everybody is looking at him like a pussy because his enemies had not died so dirk stopped paying a rent dirt see all these type of things dirk stopped doing shit because allegedly they didn't slide.
29:59Right? So what I'm saying is he got action at beating the murder for hire. If anything. But the stalking that led to a murder still carries a life sentence anyway. Which in his head on his appeal he'll probably rather fight that than that murder for hire. I saw a clip today that said that Ack thinks it will be a W if Dirk gets 20 years. Hell yeah. Right. So that's pretty dark. No bullshit. For all the dark fans out there. No, what have you been going, three years? Something like that. Something like that. After Doug, we do like 18, have another 15 left. Hell yeah. Come out when he's, I mean, what is he like?
30:43Probably 14, 13. He's probably 30, right? He'll do another 13 and a half. He's like 34, 33. He's 34? He'll be about 47. But hell, if he get 20 years off this, that's definitely a win. He'll come home with like Max B energy. Like you were really hot 15 years ago. You still feel hot. I got his recordings on the way. He ain't going to like me in a minute. Really? Yeah, his brother Poo Sim sent them to me. Did you see him talking about us on Jason Lee? I kind of told Jason to ask a few things. I knew he was going to lie. So I can double back and play the recordings. Oh. Jason didn't know that. He was calling us out by name.
31:24me and max you talking about we got a pain yeah that's my problem is that i want to interview him but he keeps asking for too much what do you who we think he is nigga that's french got you on you ain't no it's just the the number that he's pushing i'm just like i already feel like i went above and beyond with the number i suggested i wouldn't give him shit yeah you think i should just like stop paying for interviews if i stop paying for interviews that's like one more person who's not driving up the price of interviews. So then interviews are more devalued. There ain't a lot of people paying for interviews, bro.
32:03That's what I'm saying. Me and Vlad. It's not even a handful. Sean Cotton, somebody like Cam Capone, Art of Dialogue, Witty Apparatus, all these independent channels. They all pay for interviews, but probably not that much that often. Cam ain't reaching up there like that. yeah I mean Vlad I would say you probably can't think of anybody besides Vlad who's paid 20k plus for an interview yeah but that's probably I did like one time yeah but I don't know bro I just I'm looking at that whole trial and it's like it's really stupid the whole shit's dumb because he didn't do any of the killing himself and he just ordered it or what why is it dumb it's just dumb bro it's like is it an nba young boy who's the beef really with kwando rondo little tim etc okay so
33:15I guess he felt like that's my homie. He got killed. They had an even-steven gun battle. Right? Everybody was popping shots, right? Right. So my thing is for you to be this sloppy with it, you only was just sloppy with it because you really didn't want to do it. I just believe the pressure from the chat, from the people made him do it. If that wasn't there, I don't think he would have carried it out. I mean, that's kind of the picture that gets painted of all these guys is that Dirk really, really, really wanted them to slide and that they really did not want to that much. You know, like they probably would have been happy to shoot Quan Arondo if they like fell in their lap or if they felt like it was a good, clean setup where they would probably be able to do it and get away with it.
34:07But these are actual human beings at the end of the day that don't want to fucking crash out and ruin their whole life by doing this insane shooting. But Vonnie said he stopped working. He stopped even pulling up. I think all that he's like, yo, this shit was sloppy. It's like we moved because you're honest to move, but we moved at a time when we knew we shouldn't have moved. You know what I'm saying? Dirk comes off like a narcissist who only cares about his image and doesn't really give a fuck about any of the dudes around him that were willing to kill. That's why they on their stand. By ripping them off and not paying them.
34:46By basically almost like forcing them to do hits that they didn't believe in. You know, and like dudes that don't seem like they want to be, you know, career killers. There's like some some dudes really are just like that. I guess they're just happy to do it. Like a lot of these guys seem kind of conflicted the whole way. jam he was he was the donkey of the day because he decided to tell when he got caught with a gun i know that's the crazy part about all this if he just took his time for the gun i think would have been way less than what they're gonna give him on his deal because he didn't cop the murders and shit i know but that's the whole thing is that the same dude who's dumb enough to go do hits for you is the same guy who's dumb enough to think that admitting to three or more murders is a better idea than just taking the switch case like what was he gonna get for the switch like eight years maybe or some shit which is but i mean you know it's not it's not 30 or whatever you're gonna get he'd be lucky to come out of there with 20 years think about how stupid that logic is you get what i'm saying He got himself more time and he got all these other guys more time.
35:58And now he's screaming, he's going to be just as big as 6 '9 when he gets out. No one will ever care. What the fuck is your thought process? Nobody will ever. I'm watching the Doody Low dude. Dude is really cloud chasing on this shit. He got Neon come pull up. They doing dances. He doing music videos. He gets on the thing, tells Aiden, Aiden, Let me come down there. Let's do a free Dirk stream. Dude is really trying to use this as a platform to boost himself. Well, I think he sees the writing on the wall, which is that Dirk is not getting out of prison. But the Dirk fans ain't f***ing with that.
36:42I mean. What fans is he tapping into? Oh, this is the thing. He's drinking lean. He's hanging out. Doody Low stay getting f***ed up. so he's having a little too much fun when he's in that environment. He's laughing. He's smiling. In front of the federal building, your name is number four. This dude then got on the stand and said you was part of the hit in whatever way, and you in front of the building shooting music videos and doing dances with the little homie Neon. He escaped death. It could have been him in there. I would not be sitting in front of the damn courtroom, bro. Listen, who are we to judge how Doody Lo lives his life?
37:23He's a genius. No, I mean, he's doing his thing, bro. I mean, hey, look. You know, I just told him the other day, bro. I said, bro, stop calling me, talking about whack. When you speak on things, it's amplified. Do you see the shit you're doing? You know who Neon is as a streamer? What? Once you get on these type of situations, what is he talking about? What is he supposed to do? He's supposed to be all quiet with his head down. He's supposed to do like a Ken Carson thing. I mean he's living his life he's having a good time so you feel like he's doing the right thing you feel like that's do you think Dirk approves of I mean I guess Dirk talked to Doody Low and told him to leave Trappler Russell alone so apparently they're still in conversation we don't even know if that happened because that was dumb in itself if it wasn't true I bet that Dirk would have already corrected the record.
38:18Well, he corrected Young Thug. Young Thug, you ain't paid a dime on my legal. All I'm saying is that when we're talking about Chicago street dudes, they have a long history of not necessarily behaving appropriately for the moment. For instance, I'll say when it was a Glogang funeral, one of their homies that died back in the day. Actually, no, I think it was Fredo Santana. and Chief Keefe was like pouring lean they were pouring lean on his casket oh that's wow and it's like to a lot of people that would seem like deeply inappropriate myself included I guess but like you know it's like to these guys death or the risk of doing life in federal prison these things are maybe not as much of a reason to be solemn as the average person would think so I I feel like to duty low, not saying that he's necessarily like some killer or whatever, but I'm not surprised that he's behaving that way.
39:21He need to just go ahead and get a kick account and go up. I don't think the music going to work. He might get work at kick account. I don't think anybody thinks their music is going to work anymore. That dream is gone. I was saying in the group chat the other day, I think I'm probably more pessimistic about the future of rap than most people. I just like, it's hard for me to imagine the genre getting its mojo back that makes it anywhere near as exciting and interesting as it was 10 years ago. I think people have given up on it. I think the cheat code is no longer a code. The feature shit and all that, I don't think nobody cares.
40:08Playlisting, don't care. TikToks, don't care. I think the content sides of things is dominating people whether watch than just listening here
40:23yeah very few artists these days that people give a fuck about hearing their new music it's really quite sad NBA young boy he's a different kind of guy because he'll sell 20 ,000 but then he'll pack out arenas right you know what I'm saying so he's got a different style of releasing music um so do you did you know that doughboy and ricky did a three hour podcast battle no i heard something the other night and i heard him going back and ricky was like saying how the people he had to go up against was a lot more difficult than with because he had moose and moose was showing favorite to some Sacramento, the wild and out shit, but I didn't know what it was about.
41:12I kind of went to sleep listening to it. He said, basically, Ricky is trying to argue that because him and Doughboy both won host contests. Two different times, right? Yeah, two different times. Doughboy won the second one. Ricky won the first one. And Ricky's basically saying the first one had tougher competition. I kind of remember it that way as well. It felt like the first one was more dramatic, and the second one was it felt like Doughboy was the only person who was any good. No offense to some of the people out there. But Doughboy told me him and Moose had an agreement. What kind of agreement?
41:49Whatever he made the first 90 days, he was going to give it to Moose. Are you serious? What he told me? I don't believe that. That'd be the first time I heard of that. That's bizarre. I don't know what he was getting paid, but shit, that's what it was. That makes sense. What did Moose owe Doughboy? Doughboy quit his job. He didn't owe him nothing. Doughboy was saying, for your favor, whatever I make the first three months. I don't know how y 'all do that shit. Because Moose was judging alongside me. But there it goes. I don't know what the fuck y 'all do. I ain't never been here. I don't even watch it.
42:26At the end of it, I hear some new guy in the building that's it. So I don't know the process of it. So I guess that's what it was. For the favor. I mean, shit. It didn't feel like a lot of a favor. Did Moose sway Doughboy's way? I think he voted for him, but I don't. What shit dare you go? That would be bizarre. Anyway, the chat, I guess, like, was giving Doughboy a lot of credit. Myself, personally, I was pretty. I'm just trolling. I was trolling right there. Yeah. Great podcasting. Great podcasting. But I ended up feeling like Ricky really, like, took the W, even though I know a lot of the fans out there felt like Doughboy was doing good.
43:04Doughboy, like, Doughboy is shockingly ignorant. about almost everything, it feels like. Come on, bro. God damn. Is it not true? Josh just nodded. Is that Nathan? Man, we can't go on with Josh talking about it. You're nodding, you're nodding too. We all agree. He tasted your leases coochie. No, he didn't. If he did, it was via osmosis. Listen, and I was pre-skinny from the nine, so we're going to at least take that off of him. So what I'm saying is this. What do you mean Dope Boy is just dumb about everything, bro? nah I ain't going for that come on bro get the fuck out of here he makes sense I will give you a few different examples from that debate basically like they're talking about like the next up and coming artist and Doughboy says that he thinks the next top hip hop artist will be AI
43:57he's saying it'll be an AI generated artist I mean I just to me that is like the dumbest thing I ever heard and then like Don't know, bro. He's talking about EBK J-Bo. It just feels like that's the only artist that he knows on the West Coast. He's just like, I don't know, man. He didn't know that there was racism outside of America. Listening to some of these people, talking to some of these people, Timberland, talking to him direct, seeing what he's doing, who he's asking me to put in with, writers. The fact that you think that that's true, though, is a testament to it not being true, though, because you are an unk, and so is Dolly.
44:33You know, Timberland, that whole company, that's. Timberland is also an on. Yeah, but. Yeah. He's part of that, building that company, bro. We can say what we want. If you're saying that it is smart to be on the business end of creating AI tools to create music, I agree. You know, it's probably like going to be a big thing. I believe. As far as like it being like chart toppingly popular, I have a real issue. They charted country already, bro. What? AI on this. How? Pull it up. When? Like pull the shit up. I'm telling you. I think you're lying. No, bro. an AI artist charted country. Did an AI artist top the country charts.
45:08That's how I ended up on the phone with fucking Timberland. People want me to not look up things on AI, but then he says things like that. I'm telling you, bro, you're not paying attention. I'm talking to people in the buildings and this is what they doing. Okay, so an AI generated song called Walk My Walk by the Artificial Intelligence Act breaking rust reached number one on Billboard's country digital song sales chart. I'm telling you. Okay, most users on Reddit agree that this niche digital sales chart requires a relatively small number of purchases to reach the top spot compared to mainstream charts.
45:42I'm telling you, this is how I got on the phone with Timbo, and he's telling me he's part of that company. This was a scam, though. They bought sales for that AI son so that they could have a marketing moment where they claimed that it was chart-topping, even though it was actually like a very niche chart. Look, bro, look, look. I'm putting it with writers. Look, don't say the names, right? This is me and Timberland, right? This guy. What point are you making? Do you know Timberland? Yeah, cool. When I'm saying it, Tim got a part of a company, an AI company. You remember the R &B chick that they gave the two, three million?
46:20The AI, it was all AI? No. Yeah, six months ago, bro. Pull it up. This is a fact. it's just it's all marketing bro no bro they gave her two three million dollars is real shit no bullshit a rmb or i feel like i remember talking about this get three million from a label uh an ai i'm telling you so when i'm seeing these things i'm trying to figure out who's behind it right his name coming up that's bro i'll call him and he's letting me know what the is happening now a lot of shit adam you know this it starts to happen and we don't see it until it's boom right then we like but so now what i'm doing is well if this shit's going on now this will not happen again zania mona she got a three million dollar record deal it's not happening again it's like nfts we're having a moment right now where people are actually willing to spend on this i was down there jeremy green's office bro puts on this video i'm like bro that song is hard as I said that video is hard too.
47:26I said dude's one hell of a performer. Whole shit's AI. He created the character, owns the name, music is registered. Like these dudes is really playing with this shit. I ain't saying I'm not in agreeance with it. I'm going all in on VFriends. Listen, I'm not in agreeance with it. I'm simply saying I'm talking to these people that's building these companies, that's getting these fucking fundraisers, funding for it, and shit's happening. I'm not denying that, okay, I would say there are genres of music in which the author is less important. And I totally agree that those genres are likely to have hit songs emerge from them.
48:07However, Doughboy's point was about hip-hop. I have a very, very hard time imagining hip-hop fans who are so married to the narrative that they almost require their gangster rappers to actually kill people in this day and age. Those are the fans who are going to go and sign up for listening to someone who doesn't know. Stop right there. Think about this, Adam. They're not giving a f*** about those real people anymore. So if a song hits that's catchy, that they like, that goes to TikTok and gives them something to do, right? They're going to listen to this. Now, now, now, let's put it what Bro told me.
48:46He said, Wack, y 'all watched the hologram of Tupac, did you not? I said, we absolutely did. He said, picture, say we got 10, 15 artists, whatever genre. They got songs that people know word for word and they like, right, right. And now you have a fucking concert where they got a hologram of this, what the song, he said, people don't care about the realism of the person anymore. If they did, these motherfuckers wouldn't be selling two, three, 5 ,000 albums. I just think it's going somewhere bro that we don't want it to go but people not really that in touch or in tune with that real actual person they like the song it gives me something to do but what you're saying is that there will be AI songs that are popular Doughboy said that the next superstar rapper will be AI I don't think that the way that fans care about somebody like Drake or Playboy Cardi or Kendrick Lamar or I don't think that the fans will ever elevate an AI artist to the level of superstar which is very rarefied air those four people I just named throw in a Cardi B throw in an M and you know it's just like very very difficult to achieve and there's absolutely no way that an AI is going to reach that point you're gonna argue something right now that is different than what I just said, you're going to say, oh, there could be a song that's popular with AI.
50:19Sure, I acknowledge that. I'm saying it will never be an AI superstar in rap. I think what's going to happen, what we're already seeing happen, usually when we used to see a top, a number one on the top 100, right, that number would represent what we know to be a superstar. The Drake, those numbers, right? Beyonce, say whatever it may be a lot of that shit has been lowered to where now what they'll call a superstar won't be what we know what to be as a superstar but still the number one slot may be at a hundred thousand instead of a fucking 10 million is still going to say that's that i think all this shit bro is being broke down to a total difference you're right we will never have an AI as big as our actual superstars.
51:12But I do think they'll be charting up there and we can't ignore it. We're like, yo, yeah, but it's only 100 ,000. Drake was at 10 million, but you know he's number one. Today, bro, do 50 ,000, they think they like, yo, he did good. You remember, Adam? If you did 50 ,000, you were shit. Am I right? You flopped. Now if you hear that, motherfucker, It's applauding. Lil Zan did 28k first week and people were laughing at him. That's a fact. Like it was like the worst thing. You had niggas like bro if you go back yeah niggas like Juvenile was moving three four million in the first week but today if a dude does 50 ,000 they like oh bro he did good.
51:58Juvenile doing three or four million in the first week? Yeah Juvenile was cash money's top seller. That's a fact. He used to run around beating his chest about this shit. You could pull it up right okay yeah juvie juvie was doing them numbers but i just think everything is being watered the calls i'm getting from the labels about shit they asking me to do you know what i'm saying like and i'm looking at it like is this what this shit is turning into um no juvenile did not sell four million copies in his first week rather his breakout album 400 degrees initially sold around 30 ,000 to 35 ,000 copies in the first week.
52:35Was it overall? Might have been his overall. Yeah, his cumulative sales over time. Might have been overall. So, I just think all this shit, I think we're going to look up, and it's going to be some AI-generated fucking podcasters. No. Huh? I don't think so. bro when i'm on instagram now half is with 30 of instagram the fucking shit that's up is fucking ai i'm like yo this is a page right they're selling shit i'm more optimistic about the future ai than most people in the sense that i feel like i just get more out of my conversation with chat gbc than most people but that being said um and even look at youtube all the time i'll click on a video because i'm interested in the subject matter and then i'll realize at some point like oh this is most likely ai and if it's not ai it's like an ai voice of something that a guy wrote and the guy almost certainly was using ai to write the script so that exists in large part but podcasts are about back and forth between humans and we haven't seen anybody really you don't think that can create that like i have wondered that because okay a lot of streamers that you watch like when i'm watching academics a big part of what he's doing is talking to the ai he if he wants to look up some information he just types it into google boom it pops up on the screen that's just him having a conversation with the ai agent um so in that sense like and and sometimes you know if i if i'm doing something i'll ask chat gbt a question without typing it in and i'll use the voice thing so it'll just talk to me and it's okay but i i feel like the idea of like a person doing a podcast with the ai is it's hard for me to imagine well i think it could be popular in some niche category i'm telling you is they're phasing a lot of what we know to be our real reality out i don't get what you're talking about um i guarantee you your wife does not go to the store a lot to the grocery store that's weird because that's like the thing that's happening know but that's like what you were used to be able to do like if you want to help your wife out you like go get some eggs and bacon get some milk whatever now it's no she's got instacart so what i'm saying is it's like everything is is flipping you know i don't look bro i don't want it do you know what happens these motherfuckers are on clubhouse with ai rooms bro literally doing song battles these niggas is making whole production songs in like four minutes they need to stop so what i'm saying is do you know how much fucking music could be out there how it would be flooded and overcrowded with a bunch of nobody's doing some shit it'll like totally devalue everything it is right it's already been devalued so much like even like like we're having a conversation about the game album let's get into that which apparently sold like around 15 000 copies 16 and some change um and somebody made a remark in a group chat i'm in which is i'll listen to a two hour game interview but i don't really give a f**k about listening to his album that's what somebody said and i was like you know i want to listen to his album i still don't got around to i was on vacation but i want to listen to the album but yeah i would rather listen to a two hour podcast too and that is a big part of the problem is that if you're if you're a game fan two hour podcast might seem more appealing than listen to the album.
56:03That's just music bro. Once upon a time when Spotify was a big deal people woke up they drove, they worked out at work, warehouse jobs Spotify. Now 2016, 2017 before the online entertainment really clicked in. You got TikTok, you got Instagram you got motherfucking YouTube that after watching the two hour podcast rolls into the next one. yeah you got all these places 2016 no instagram reels no tiktok youtube content creators are just barely starting to become like a thing that a lot of people are watching yeah people are looking at twitter but that's not like huge at that time yeah people are looking at instagram but instagram's not like addictive in the same way because it's really just showing you photos of people you know yeah and now it's just like infinite shit like even me i was just on vacation So I'm like not really watching content for like a week.
57:00There's so many goddamn YouTube videos. I got saved so many podcasts. I got saved that just to feel like I know what's going on in the culture. And that's to say nothing of the content that I create myself adding to the problem. Also creating, you know, if you're a no jumper fan, you have like, even, even if I only do like two interviews, you probably have like 20 hours of content per week that you could watch. That's what I'm saying. That's a lot. So it ain't about, people have so many other places to go that draws their interest. Okay, we're still leaving a major part out. We got motherfuckers like Blueface and these motherfuckers running around doing 8 to 12 hour streams on some straight crazy shit to where they get caught up in that.
57:48That didn't exist in 2016. They're not listening to fucking music or streaming no music. They're not so, it's so many other places where all these people would usually be here. Now it's a bare minimum. So when you're talking about when a person says, okay, game did 16 ,000, right? I'm going to see and hear that different. Okay. Because I know what the budget is. And you know what I'm going to hear? What? The budget's recouped. is that fair that's what i'm gonna hear you get what i'm saying okay shit he recouped in a week okay this is my ai question how much is he likely to have profited off those album sales i know what he made based on typical music industry payout structures the game likely profited between 15 and 60 000 what no that's totally wrong crazy i mean they're saying that it might have that 15 thousand units generates roughly 75 to 100 ,000 in gross payout and then you gotta like reduce you know whatever you're paying the producers a lot of stuff sample clearances marketing and distribution we know what we spent so 4 ,500 alone was iTunes you spent 4 ,500 on iTunes 4 ,500 sales was iTunes his shit sky high he's at$19.99 No, that don't know what he's talking about.
59:24So his hardcore fans bought. That's$90 ,000 by itself. Okay. We got another$7 ,400 album sales collectively. It was$11 million over at Apple, which they pay$6 ,200 per million. Okay. Right? So I'm telling you, he recouped everything the first week. I know the number. If you go to his iTunes right now, his album is$19.99. It ain't the standard$7.99,$8.99. So he more than recouped. See, what they're saying is it made this now deduct. I know what was spent overall, and it wasn't a whole lot spent overall. So that's what I see on that. Now, Rick Ross went up there and said, hey, look, bro. Game had these features, these features, these features.
1:00:19I had these features, these features, these features. I did$17 ,000,$18 ,000, game did$16 ,000 and change. I'm finna drop some more videos and keep hustling. Now, I know Ross spent some real money on this shit. On marketing? Just his overall project. He spent probably like$500 to$600. That didn't happen. On what? Beats and features? His whole shit. Whatever his whole - Did he have features on the Ross project? Yeah, he had like about seven, eight features on it. He's probably not paying most of the people he works with, right? No, I mean, he got to pay for production. He got to pay for Mix Master.
1:00:53Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? And shit like that in his videos. You know, Ross is still shooting them type of videos. He ain't toned it down. You know what I mean? He kept game in the motherfucking low bottoms in the Pueblo. Because that's the thing about the game album is that, like, yeah, $15 ,000,$16 ,000 doesn't sound like that much. But, like, when you compare, like, the way that albums are marketed in this day and age versus the way that they used to, the label just used to think that it made more sense. to invest a shitload of money in promoting a project. You know what we used to spend at radio per single?
1:01:24Like half a million? Two, three hundred thousand. Easy. For rhythmic and right. You know what we spend now? Nothing. Right. If they grab it, they fucking grab it. We go up there and do an interview with you. That's it. You get what I'm saying? So the money put like this, the money that was spent on game, I spent more than that on studio time on his projects at one point in time. It was never a time I didn't spend anything less than a quarter million dollars on studio on game albums. See what I'm saying? Motherfucker didn't even touch that. So he, what I see when I see that, other people don't, they ain't going to look at it that way.
1:02:09He fully recouped the first week. So now he's all the way in the plus. everything that's done from here on out is plus. The label done got their money back. What's up with the Drake verse that he didn't put on the album? Is that true? Do you believe this? Have you heard it? It's a lot that was altered from that album. Have you heard it? Have you heard the Drake verse? Nah, I ain't heard it. What'd he say? What did the boy say? It's a lot that game went back and cleaned the album up. It was phone calls happening. Motherfuckers didn't want bullshit to happen. You know, game was on what he was on.
1:02:50He went back and he, in his head, he like, bro, I'm just going to help protect the West. We don't need the bullshit. You know what I'm saying? So he cleaned it up. He definitely cleaned it up. It was some shit that was said. He cleaned it up. But what could Drake have said? What would Drake have said? It's kind of hard to think of what exactly he might have said that Game would not have wanted to put out there. Now, like, because Drake never – like, okay, Game saying the West Coast. Like, he did it for the West Coast. They didn't put the Drake verse out. It feels like Drake wouldn't have a reason to really diss anybody besides Kendrick by name.
1:03:31He hasn't. When he was dissing Kendrick, he never made it an L.A. thing. No, no, no. Drake don't be – we all know that's where his issue's at with Kendrick. Yeah. But that's – you got to remember, bro, that's a mountain. That's a complicated mountain. That's a mountain that's attached to a mountain that was already there. Game's mountain was already there. Game clearly already chose Drake's side, but he doesn't want to be associated with the ugliness of really looking like he's turning his back on the West Coast. What do you mean turning his back on the West Coast? He's still with YG. He's still with everybody over.
1:04:12If he put out a song in which Drake really disrespected Kendrick, I think it would be spun as him just being a bad Californian. And I think he admitted that. That's what he's saying. It would have been bad for the West Coast. I think it was apparently Drake said or did stuff that was disrespectful enough that game didn't think that it was just going to get laughed off by people. And that is pretty fascinating because it's just like, I don't know. I think Drake knows that the game song, that a game song might be a weird place for him to really like turn up on. No, that's a great place for him. Yeah, yeah, for him.
1:04:55That's a great place. That's like a great him game. You don't get no better than that. But him, you get what I'm saying? It's just kind of hard to imagine Drake thinking that game would be down for that. But you don't know. When they're talking, is game really saying, man, Kendrick, I don't fuck with it. Maybe that was the energy on the phone, and then game didn't really want to sign up. You really haven't heard the album. Nah, I haven't heard it. It's still a bunch of subs on there. Oh, yeah? Like a month. That's how I know you haven't heard it, because you'll be looking at me saying, so what does he mean by...
1:05:30No, but I feel like if there was subs, I would have seen it posted all over Instagram and Twitter. I'm still looking at this shit. Oh, no, it's subs on there. Really? All right. Yeah, you're going to hear a lot of GNX talk. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? Hmm. You know, I had to jump on the roads because the GNX runs the ladies off. Ooh, okay. You know what I'm saying? That's good, yeah. You know, something about I popped the steering column sitting in this GNX waiting to see who was going to come out. So it's some subs in there that people could have played with like a motherfucker. But I think he cleaned up just the real, like, straightforward, direct, just that other type shit that was going on.
1:06:05Okay. You know, that game come from that. You know, he ain't ducking and turning nothing down when it come to that booth. But I'm going to be real. I don't care how hard game it came. Kendrick being the guy that you don't like because you like, hey, look, bro, all that shit. You got to say something. You have to cater to hip hop. I feel like Game seems like he don't want to fully crack shit off with Kendrick. He looks at Kendrick like a little brother. He's a little confused about why the temperature is what it is with him. But it's lines of communication with the voices. You get what I'm saying?
1:06:53It's not a week go by that me and Top ain't talking, checking on each other, shit like that. You know what I mean? But y 'all both can't make them be cool. Y 'all both can't make Kendrick be cool again. Yeah, he is cool again. He hasn't said anything. Right, but we now know that he's basically been not f***ing with them for like 10 years. I mean, that's y 'all. Like, we've been in the middle of it for 11. Right, but over time, that's a lot of time in which you could have potentially got them cool? Well, Kendrick's one of them dudes, bro, to where, you know, once he's gone, he's gone. Once he's – whatever he left behind him is what he left behind him.
1:07:36That's just him. I've never seen him double back to anything that he felt like he had an issue with or a problem with like that. Okay. I haven't seen that. I haven't seen him say, okay, Drake, let's get it in. Okay, I haven't seen it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, so I think once he makes his decision, he just, that's what it is. He just, he closes all these doors, that's what it is. You know what I mean? Game, on the other hand, he's going to see it different because he's going to be like, damn, little nigga, this me. This the one where the studio was over with. Get on the tour bus, come on to the, you know what I'm saying?
1:08:11He's looking at it like, damn, it shouldn't be that easy. You know what I'm saying? So, but it is what it is. Shout out TD. Shout out Top Dog. Top Dog, you know, we was together out there in Vegas. You know, I had to go check on my brother QCP. And I watched, I got there and Top didn't like the way that the building was secure. So I watched him power up that jet and put some bodies on that motherfucker. He got his people there, locked down the hallways. Yo, I don't have the topics. He did some real brotherly shit, man. So my man Peter made a comeback. He's up, he's conscious, walking, talking.
1:08:52Oh, yeah. How is he doing? He's doing great, man. His comeback was, it wasn't what I expected that fast. Really? Yeah, it wasn't what I expected. One week, you know, he was totally out of it. I go back six days later, and me and him taking walks down the hallway. Mm, damn. You know what I'm saying? So he's going to his rehab, you know what I mean? But, you know, he's functioning, and he's making a comeback. You know what I mean? He remembers things. You can talk to him, and his conversation is there. But he's focusing on just getting his health back right and getting back in the game. You know, that's really a brother to me.
1:09:34That was a long trip to Vegas. What is his day-to-day these days? Like, what is he working on? Because he's not really, like, part of QC anymore, right? Yeah, he's part of QC. him and coach k they still defaced qc but they're actually like going out and trying to sign artists or some shit yeah they still do that but you know you got to remember when you when you operate the way they operate it's like about eight or nine different businesses going on on restaurant chains and and you're doing business overseas with new companies just starting up you know what i mean you got a lot of big investments so you know it's any given day he on he on two three different jets in two three different states you know just ripping and running you know what i mean it business still goes on you know if it's not music the albums we really don't see it but it's a whole lot of other shit that goes on that they're a part of that they build man so you know okay uh you know but hey man the shit we eating things we drinking you never know bro you know what i'm saying our water is not even pure not me i gotta sense you mine's about as pure as you get that shit ain't okay you're drinking purell over here huh listen i drink that too but if you look on the back of it uh i don't think back in the old days i don't think they had chemicals in their water i don't think there's chemicals in this water shit um ingredients purified water sodium bicarbonate he understood diotassium phosphate magnesium sulfate and calcium chloride okay this is what i'm saying bro what the Yeah, now you see what I'm saying.
1:11:12But this is ionized alkaline water with pH quality guaranteed. Who came up with the definition of what that is? I don't know. When I grabbed it, I did not realize that I was grabbing super water. Shout out to my boy. It's because, you know, I always drink out the same big black water bottle. Well, it finally has developed like a crack. So it's pouring water all over me last night. So I ordered two new ones. They came in the mail this morning. Amazon Prime, insane. but meanwhile I went and grabbed this because Lena wanted to wash it shout out to my boy 7-7's Nick Cannon head of security and he has his whole kit and he's the one that tells me what water to drink first it was core and then core changed something like his shit he'll put the water in there see it change color and he told me that's the top so you have a water guru I mean that's my boy 7-7 you probably never met 7-7's a f***ing real military extremist that will die or Nick Cannon and he's just, he's into that type of shit.
1:12:11He has the little testing kits and he'll show you how what happened, but that is one of the top waters. But it's still shit in it. Everything we got today is shit in it, bro. I think there's a lot of water that just says water on the side of it. Bro, we can't live that long or we'll be the world. We overpopulated. Motherfucker's gotta die. What do you think about KVD being found guilty of the murder of Tupac Shakir. I knew that he was going to be found guilty. In retrospect, it seems pretty obvious. You heard what he said. He wants his stuff back. I want my stuff back, and I want to appeal. So he's probably about 70.
1:12:47He'll be back down. Okay. He's 63. Another 5 to 7. He got cancer. He probably ain't going to make it, right? God willing. You know what I mean? I think he'll be back down. You know what I mean? A lot came out. A lot of rats. Right. A lot of people understand who thought he was going to get up there and pulled a little Woody and got exposed. You know what I'm saying? You heard the shit on Suge, right? What about Suge? Cooperated. He did. Yeah, the DA said it. I got the clip. Suge cooperated with the government on Keefe D? Yeah. I got the clip. You want to hear it? I'm going to go straight to it.
1:13:25I know what the timestamp is. That's interesting. Yeah. They went down there and talked to him for two and a half hours.
1:13:37no Suge Knight has refused to cooperate or testify against KVD in the Tupac Shakur murder case I'm not saying the AI would necessarily know that maybe they wouldn't I do think that both Mr. Pallall and I are dumber for having to have three things. The question about Shukni, you were completely convinced that you did potentially talk with him. And I think the big question to so many is why not have him take this stand because he's been blasphemy, but this is beyond his own data.
1:14:14There's two reasons, really. I mean, he was uncooperative from the beginning. Ultimately, we do get a statement from him when he's in prison in San Diego. But if any of you guys were watching the theme of our case, Mr. Knight would have had the same rights as any other human being on Earth. And my first question to Mr. Knight would have been asked, why did you have Biggie killed? And so I imagine he would have invoked and never wound up in front of the jury anyways. And so ultimately we made the decision. One, he's not credible. And two, he has the Fifth Amendment privilege. So we're just not bringing him.
1:14:48Do you know what statement he did? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think there's been some reporting of that statement. I don't want to go into the specifics off just the top of my head, but certainly he confirms that Mr. Davis was involved in the homicide. Boom. Wow. And the DA has confirmed with one of my partners, you know what I'm saying? ex-Deaf Row head there's a two and a half hour interview that Suge did with these people I keep telling you this dude's a fucking rat and we can't freedom of information then I don't know they working on it I mean listen we working it's working you know what I'm saying streets is dead man everybody telling yo look I'm gonna show you look
1:15:41if you ever send me okay my plan is to not do media. We will see if the DA forces me. LOL. If you can ever send me Suge's statement, that would be lovely. So you're trying to get it. That would be pretty glorious. That's my guy. You know what I'm saying? It's crazy though. Everybody look bad. The old heads look bad. Adam, how long have I been saying, bro, I move the way I move. I'm going to talk to who I want to talk to. Do business who I want to do business with because all these fake ass dudes have already long broke them rules, bro. So, yeah, if I want to interview 6ix9ine like I did, then guess what?
1:16:23Look what everybody's doing. The hell they want to do it. All the little street dudes. If I want to do business with this dude, that's what I'm going to do because all these dudes, all that shit's a myth. Right. They do it to control what you're doing and then they do whatever they want to do and then you got a group of them over here huddled up where all of them know that they did some bullshit. so when it comes out, they all ignore it. They be like, oh, it's no big deal. No, it's cool because he knows he knows his secrets. So, Suge, what the fuck do you got to talk to the DA and the police about for two and a half hours?
1:16:59Like the DA, that's the district attorney. He said, yeah, we want to talk to Suge and Donovan, San Diego. And, yes, he gave us a statement. Yeah, he did confirm that KPD was there at the time of the killing.
1:17:12It's just what it is, bro. There it is. Okay, my last topic for you for the day is why, were you ever around for Blueface letting his dog lick peanut butter off his penis? Oh, that shit he said. I thought he said he was a kid. I mean, hey, I'm not passing judgment. I never had a dog. Would I have given it a shot if I did have a dog? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if he was. I mean, you know, when I hear shit like that, I don't know if nephew trolling around. I don't pay that shit, though, type of attention. I mean, clearly he likes getting hit. I don't know. Why not get hit from a dog?
1:17:54What? When he was nine. Two licks. I didn't listen. He didn't come into my world until he was like 19. You know, honestly, and I'm glad he got it out of his system by that point. But honestly, like, I have a memory that I hadn't thought of in forever. But I remember being, like, pretty young. like 10, 11 maybe, and just seeing something on the news about a teacher who had done that, who had like put peanut butter on her privates and had the dog wake it off or something. I heard women do that shit. But I forget. It was something. No, I think she would put the peanut butter on the kids and then the dogs would.
1:18:31Oh, that's crazy shit. That's wild. But I'm like young enough that I don't really know about that and just being like, what the fuck? I'm like 11 just trying to wrap my head around that and not really knowing that there's people that deranged out there. When I grew up, the dogs we had, they would have ate it. They would have bit your shit off. They ate it. We was raising pit bulls. You know what I'm saying? We was raising killers. We was keeping dogs in ditches all damn day, not letting them out until 9 unless it was time to fight. Look what his mom said. We had a boy dog, so does this mean? never mind I'm not playing with him I mean that's the clout I mean if you're f***ing a dog boy girl I mean you're already f***ing a dog dude listen man at the end of the day shout out to Blueface our numbers are up crazy he's headed out to do a 20 day 24 hour stream in good old Yammy Miami Bluefaces?
1:19:34Blue Girls Club 24 7 for the next 20 days Oh, in Miami. In Miami. Got the mansion. Got everything going on. And we're looking for the next female top streamer. So you're going to be in there doing your Blue Girls Club shit, but you better pay attention because you're going to get put to the test if you can handle the stream. This is going on now or? Kicking off this weekend. This weekend, okay. Coming down? You got to come down, bro. I would like to come down. You got the spot. I just paid for the spot. Come down. Am I allowed to the girls? Come do the you wanna do. Really? We don't give a what you do.
1:20:14Everybody's legal. Blueface ain't gonna be feeling that. He don't give a. It's gonna be a, these not his girls. Really? No, hell no. He gotta get to know them too. You gonna see him selecting them over the next couple days. Maybe I could be like Blueface's Sly Diggler. I could be like the gigolo who comes to him and bangs the girl for him. We should do our next stream down there. Do you think Blueface would be against wifing a girl up on this reality show if I had already them i feel like he he should be cool with that he don't give a fuck about none that's something great for him to hold over her head and and sort of mentally don't care about none of that one thing with him when it comes to women it's true though he will utilize it in that way like he he's the sick who likes the fact that his baby mama had a young boy tattoo because he can kind of like use that he can say i ain't gotta listen to you you got a fucking kentrell tattoo under your eye i think he actually said yeah because because but i brought it up when we were on that stream i brought up that she had a tattoo of a rapper's name and i'm kind of almost wondering like is blue face gonna get mad at me saying that because that's kind of disrespectful to his girl and instead he gets happy he has a big smile on his face he's like he doesn't care he was hyped that me and him could now kind of dog pile his girl bro listen he came home from prison and he let y 'all know what it was.
1:21:36101 Dalmatians. Right? This is like his flock. Bitches ain't shit. You know what I'm saying? When one goes astray, the shepherd herds the couple back in. He is not tripping on none of that shit. That's what you're doing? Okay, cool. It's not a problem. I like it. You know what I'm saying? It's a whole lot going on, man. Shout out to Kit. You know, a whole lot going on, bro. A whole lot going on. And this shit finna go crazy. You got Blue Girls Club Slash with Create the Next Top Female Streamer in Miami. And this shit is finna go crazy. I am excited. Shout out to everybody who watched this. Me and Wack will be doing gay porn on Plug Talk tonight.
1:22:29So sign up, PlugTalk.com. Are you talking about the, what whack you talking about? You. I was talking about you. Oh, no, I'm whack 100. Oh. I guess that means that he's not in the mood. You know the crazy part about it is when you go to the county, right? I will not. What's going to happen when Anhefe turns the back of you screaming in the cell next door? you're saying that he's gonna rape me or that he'll just not do anything about it he's not gonna help you what do i owe an hefa i mean you don't owe him shit do you you ain't put a dime on his books have you uh you know huh you use him for what you did it he's rich he seems rich he's rich i mean i assume he's rich and he's robbing a motherfucking uh old man in the parking lot they weren't robbing him they're just whooping his ass okay well listen at the end of the day Before we go, what's up with, what's Ponyface got going on?
1:23:29He has a problem with the Hispanics doing a jog through Leimert Park. Does he not know that Hispanics represent damn near 85 % of some crazy number of Los Angeles? I'm just sick of all this division, bro. Like, how is this a good thing? They're trying to create a race war for clout. But I'm saying, what's wrong with them doing a jog? That's what I'm saying. I guess there's like a black like market there. The Mexicans are bringing their own vendors for their run. If they can get permitted for the run, then what the way I don't is it vendors or is people that's passing out drinks and shit? They got a mango lady.
1:24:10They got a taco lady. I don't know. Oh, so they're saying, well, if this is here's the thing, if they don't want to eat certain foods, they're going to just keep jogging through there. Is this not This is a run though right This is a run it's not a gathering I think just Leimert Park is in the route Because they're saying they're coming down Crenshaw I mean maybe I'm missing something But it sounds like salty Black people are trying to like reintroduce Segregation you can't say that Because I haven't seen a group Of black people This is sporty A very select group of salty black I've seen this one dirty ass dude on Instagram just making clips about this.
1:24:55And I'm just like, bro, you sound like the biggest fucking hater. Nobody is signing up for this bullshit. Bro, they have a fucking – what is it, RMB? Skid Row has a marathon team. I swear to God, when we was down there filming, they pulled up on us. Homeless people, and they run with the judges through Skid Row. So what I'm saying is, is it because it's Hispanics running? It's called like the barrio or something. They're mad too because I guess they feel like Mexican people don't support black businesses, but black people support Mexican businesses. I don't know if that's true. Listen, I'm going to be real.
1:25:40Maybe I'm wrong.
1:25:45we represent a small percentage of this city yeah how many black businesses are over there that's a brick and mortar to support like leimert park is like probably the most like proud black area of los angeles right that's that's the way i've heard so it's like that's their vibe you might want to google that shit i don't know i don't know it's like i feel like they have like the most tight-knit sort of pro-black community, maybe. The only thing I'm saying is if these people, the bar, look, man, I grew up with Hispanics. I grew up in the city of Boquemur. And I'm saying is if these Mexican people are putting together a fucking four or five-mile jog or marathon down Crenshaw that takes them through Leimert Park and they got vendors there that what the f*** is the big deal?
1:26:42Every person has a right to buy what they want to buy. Yeah. Either you're going to buy this shit or you're not. You get what I'm saying? But I don't know why is it a big deal to say they should be banned or that's crazy. Identity politics in general was a bad idea. It's a dumb way to live your life. We should all be able to get along and integrate. I'm anti all this differentiating between us. I didn't get it. I was trying to figure out if something happened or something went on. Did they stop? I didn't get it. I'm like, yo, bro, they're people. This is Los Angeles. You get what I'm saying? At the end of the day, I think last time I checked, the Hispanics, they covered like damn near 60%, 70 % of the L.A.
1:27:28County population. So you're going to have those type of things that go on. I think what people are getting away from, Adam, what they don't want to hear, he said, Hispanics don't support black vendors, right? I guess, yeah. The real problem is, blacks don't support black vendors. That's the real problem. I don't know. I drive way to Englewood to the spot I took you to. The wood. Shout out to my man, Jonathan. I also went there with King Pell. He got a barbecue joint. Right? You probably took him to my spot, you punk ass white boy. I did. Went there with a real blood. Take a motherfucker to my spot that I took your punk ass to.
1:28:17For real. Shout out to my man, Jonathan. But he got a, you know, but I go there to support him. I know him from Clubhouse. And the food is good. And it's a great vibe. Take the$320 worth of shots. Bo Jackman. $32 Don Hullio shots. But there it go. See, Jonathan? It works. But I mean, blacks, we should learn to support our black people and stop trying to pawn that off on others because we will buy the shit out of everybody else's shit and then we want to blame people for not buying our shit. We should support people regardless of race. No, what I'm saying is, listen, black people love Mexican food.
1:28:59Yeah. No, I don't know if Mexican people love soul food. I don't know. If a black guy starts a burrito truck, I will go there. I don't give a fuck. Who cares? I mean, if the burritos is good, it's good. You know what I'm saying? Who gives a shit? Yeah. But I mean, I don't know how many black people. I've never seen black people. No, we had the taco lady. I'm going to invest in. We had the big you. Me and Rich Rabbit. I'm going to invest in Rich Rabbit. it we're gonna start the first black owned salreño food truck burrito truck uh that'll work that might work shut up power to the people smack the like we'll be back real real soon appreciate y 'all much love adam and whack
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