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30:39You don't want to show that, man. Don't show you're emotionally unreliable. You can't just be like, no, I would never have anything to do with you. You got to keep the door open. I'm feeling him out a little bit. If she was across from him, I think he'd be way comer. For sure. But he can cry on the spot for you and then stop. Like, gosh! This shit for real! But girls like that. They want you to be emotionally available, don't you think? No. No? That's emotional instability. You don't want nobody to tell cry right now. No, psycho shit. Girls want you to be able to cry But they only want you to be able to cry about the right thing The perfect thing They want you to trigger some type of maternal instinct in them But they don't want you to be mommy You feel me?

31:20They do want that feminine energy to be brought out of them But they don't want to have to be your caretaker My question is where do you keep getting these panties from bro? Is you stealing your auntie's panties or some shit? What the fuck? Maybe he's purchasing them Maybe he's buying them You going to the store buying panties? Go to Rainbow I would probably get like a five pack for like three bucks. Hey, for anybody else, like I'm from my daughter or some shit, right? But for him, the whole world seen him deeped up the Phantom bottle. So they gonna be like, oh, this nigga here gets him. See what I'm saying?

31:49Some lingerie and shit. Okay, so do you think the presence of a female on the pod, the request for that is like to offset that? Yes. Well, I don't know. But I think that, I think at the very least the female presence, he feels like. Give him a balance. I think he just really likes it. Slash, like, it helps keep him cool. This is his new dating service, essentially. Fuck Tinder. I'm just going to get interviewed on another jumper. Well, that's a new thing. The male loneliness epidemic. That's a real thing. Male suicide. I think we're all dealing with it. We're not dealing with it. Male loneliness epidemic.

32:21This nigga is not lonely. I'm a little lonely. You're lonely? What's that? There's men being lonely. Yeah, I'm like... In increasing numbers. Lonely for what? Women, fucking friends, feelings. You're not lonely ever? Not lonely, like... Mr. Lonely? I'm like, and that's what I'm saying. It's different aspects of being lonely. Like, it's like, I'm not lonely, like, from, like, no woman presence, I don't think. I'm lonely probably, like, at times from other shit. You know what I'm saying? There are certain individuals, like, homies that I aren't around anymore or I fell out with. Yeah, like, shit like that.

32:53Or I don't even lie. Like, just me, like, I don't even lie. So, like, as of lately, me and one of my childhood friends, like, we had a conversation, like, and he from the gang, too. And you know, he got some bread, you feel me? So we were just like talking and he, like how he viewed things and his aspects of things and like we both was like, yeah, now the motherfucker kinda understands what it means like to outgrow some people, you feel me? Like because some people still be on the same shit, you feel me? And a motherfucker might feel that you acting funny, but it's like, nah, nigga, you being reckless and I can't be reckless like that no more.

33:26So it's like, if I can't be reckless like that no more and I'm telling you that, you feel me you still on that then it's like a motherfucker gotta disassociate itself i feel like loneliness is kind of foreign to me at this point just from having a girl that i live with and a kid a kid that's just like infinite positive affirmation even if your girl's mad at you the kid is always gonna love you no matter what and shit that's just like constant emotional validation but i i kind of like think back to like before i was in a relationship and for sure like i'm the kind of guy that if like i don't have a girl around and like i mean the homies being around is good but it's not it's not the same like i'm definitely i'm a lonely person for sure like when i'm like not right now but like if i if i don't have my girl around or if i don't like have like a bunch of homies around or whatever if i'm just kind of solo in the house for a couple days in a row i start to go crazy and i i gotta like create something to fill this void that's not loneliness that's boredom yeah to a degree i i think that's what i'm gonna look up lonely people are tribal though you're not meant to be alone it's i don't think your definition of loneliness is wrong but i think munchie is right i think that comes from a place of boredom like me personally i'll say this i i would my fantasy is to be able to just be by myself for three days if i could have a hotel room by myself for three days but no responsibility yeah with charlie sheen no like tune that thing Hang up.

34:52No, look, loneliness, sadness because one has no friends or company. That's so basic. But you say something different. No, he's like after a couple days in the house, he misses everybody. That's what it's alluding to. I mean, you ain't got nobody to hang with. When I was in Istanbul getting my hair fucking surgery done, I mean, first day, hell yeah, I'm in this hotel room. I got my weed pen. I could order room service. I could play poker on my laptop. That sounds amazing. By day two, day three, like, God damn it, I'm lonely. I need something. Like, I just, I need something around. Like, I can't just be by myself for days on end.

35:28You know what I can tell about you? I'm natural. What? You got a short attention span, huh? I was kind of almost thinking of saying that to you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sometimes. But not known. You got in trouble in class. Did you stay on task? Oh, no. I was a monster. I could tell. Yeah. For sure. I could tell. But what is making you say that right now? What did I just, did I breeze past the time? You had to teach her Munchie. I could tell. I could tell. You had a classmate like him? Huh? You had a classmate like him? No, I'm just good with that shit. Intuitive. I read Tim the other day.

36:01You know what I'm saying? It just shows. Yeah. You were smarter than do the work. I mean, all of us white boys that are essentially our age, we have short attention spans. It's kind of like, you know what I mean? Like par for the course of why we were all on Ritalin. Yeah, well, I mean, my parents never really let them put me on those drugs, But I do want to just say that I think that a lot of times we come on this podcast and we talk about all the topics and everything. But I do think that like we need to have more talking about ourselves and each other and understanding each other more. Because I feel like that brings us closer together if we can kind of understand each other.

36:36And hey, we have a sensitive. Why is he laughing, first of all? We have an amazing voice. Look at him. Bart Simpson over here is like fucking nerds. Y 'all gay. Ha ha. No, I'm just checking out him out, man. What you doing when it took your shahada this weekend or something, man? You had a spiritual awakening. Jewish shit. I don't know about that. It's some Jewish shit. No, I'm just saying that because I don't watch a lot of Joe Budden podcasts, but I watch a lot of Danny from the stop reacting to the Joe Budden podcast and like, I just, I see them kind of like... Camaraderie. It's camaraderie and it's the opposite where it's like they're getting actually like genuinely annoyed and pissed off at each other but they fuck with each other but it's like there's just more of like a real emotional connection in a way and I feel like the pod is better the closer that we get to that.

37:30So you want to do team building. Exactly trust fall. I mean dude check this. Would you do a trust fall? I would do a trust fall. Maybe not if Munchie's the only one there but I'll catch Munchie. I'll catch Munchie. Dead homies yeah. But here's the thing red homies but here's the thing like Munchy and Ant were okay so Wack got you correct in this week I don't like that word but someone calls you a bitch enough times you can start to get convinced that might be true I guess right Munchy and Ant were incarcerated together there's no camaraderie on the Joe Button podcast that could ever match that level of understanding you said Munchy and him were locked up together yes You think we gotta go to jail lunch?

38:17In the same place We was across from each other We never talked about this before We did, we just forgot

38:26I don't remember that, that's crazy It's cause we actually I'm glad that you're getting on our hype Cause we actually fuck with each other You feel me already We actually talk about this shit Paying attention is the first Step towards Understanding each other Wow, such an unnecessary I'm getting hot in here. You know the next step, baby. I think I became a good judge of character fucking with jail, though, because you're in a dorm with like 80 people and you're dealing with all these different personalities. Okay, that makes sense. And you're in close quarters with each other, so you got to learn.

39:02I get to conversating with somebody long enough, I kind of got to figure it out a little bit. When were you guys locked up together? Like 10 years ago, though? 2011 or something like that. Yeah, something like that. More than that. 10, 11, something like that. I was in there 9, 10, 11. You was in there all three of them years too. Yup. You guys never had a squabble? With each other? Yeah. For what? I don't know. Some soups? Some chili limes. Our communities don't eat anything. Okay. That's good. I only get into it with the tough guys, man. Like the cold dudes. Whoa! Munchie's not a tough guy? No, he meets people that are looking for a problem.

39:42We're eating the tea leaves. no but i i was like even though obviously i've never been locked up like that i will say that based on my experience around people that who have been i think there's a a greater understanding of the human condition that comes from incarceration when you're in a room especially with one other person let's say you have one sally right for like a year and it's just you and him you see that person under every single possible condition that could occur. Like, oh, he just got a letter finding out his wife's leaving him. Oh, this happened. And eventually you could read people on a fucking deeper level and have a level of intuition that those of us who weren't forced into that circumstance can never understand.

40:27Sam, you ever been in prison? No. I have a question for them, though. Yes, please. If you guys don't mind, I have read a lot about that condition in the California prisons is unconstitutional? At one point we were under federal investigation for that. Do you guys feel like when you were in jail they were treating you to an extent that was unconstitutional or would be against the law otherwise? Did they have you too packed in there? For sure. County jail? For sure. They changed Men's Central from a jail to a mental health in there. I've seen every jail, from a county jail to the state to the feds breach protocol and what's in the constitution if you know whether it's making sure when you're on lockdown because you could be on a lockdown right but it don't matter regardless of that lockdown like constitution says you got a shower every 72 hours regardless of what's going on you know i'm saying but yeah i definitely seen them breach protocol a lot of times definitely in the county jail it was filthy sleeping on the floor and they had a whole investigation that's why sheriff lee baca um got it got fired you know i could have filed a lawsuit with that but you know i wasn't tripping i caught up with some shit on the 3000 flow with them damn well don't wait no is the class action suit but that juke ball shit because when you go to the hole in Supermax wayside and they not supposed to punish you with food bro and that shit is not supposed to be bad for humans bro and you know some people like I ain't gonna even lie look when I was in the hole a dude used to give me a soup for my juke balls he used to be like hey bro I got a soup for your juke balls what is a juke ball?

41:56is that like neutral loaf? it's like a fucking just every scrap of meat like meatloaf like chopped up everything just like Just like a ball of nutrition? Yeah. Minimal. That's why he gave you the soup because he want that protein or some shit. Yeah, he wanted that shit. You know me, I'm looking I wasn't going to eat it. I'm looking at that shit like hell no. I'm going to just peanut butter it out. And they get money. They get a budget to feed them. And they technically spend the budget because if you don't spend it all on the food you get to keep it or some weird shit like that. So they intentionally cut corners.

42:28But I've been in kitchens and I've seen on the boxes in federal kitchens, like chicken that you get in, meat that you get in boxes says, not for human consumption. I'm like, what the fuck is this? And that's the point. For sure. The dude Sheriff, Joe Arpaio, and I think it's Maricopa County in Phoenix, Arizona. They got some shit called 10 City out there. That's their like, yeah, yeah. That's their county jail. And it's the, I mean arguably, you could say better or worse. It's inhumane conditions and they feed this neutral loaf to the people there. And it's technically worse than dog food. I don't think that human is supposed to be eating that shit, bro.

43:11They're not. They got him about it there. My cell used to come open, I used to put in a bag. And the hummy one, I used to toss it in front of his cell when it landed like, that's all hell no, bro. They trying to kill me in this bitch. I'm already skinny. I ain't eating this shit. Yeah. Hey, stay free, kids. Yeah. Deal. Hey, can I make a request? I think that the Thursday show needs to get a little bit more profanity conscious. What happened on Thursday? It's just like... It's too many squares. An unbelievable percentage of those episodes end up getting demonetized in comparison to this podcast, which I feel like we use a fair amount of profanity and we smoke drugs and K2 and all kinds of other stuff.

43:52K2. It's crazy. Who's smoking K2? Well, sometimes I'll pass you this from K2. Nah, I ain't never said no K2, eh? I'll be passing. You must have been smoking with Kodak. Kodak Black. Is that what you're talking about? That's what the juke ball is? That's horrible. It looked like that for sure. So it's darker. That means it's older. Sometimes it's warm. Sometimes it's not. Or half of it. Does it taste good at all? No. Can we put it on the screen? You know what some people do? Some people save their seasoning packs from ramen's and they're seasoning. They don't season that automatically? They try to jazz it up.

44:26They can come bland. That's some white people shit right there, man. That's what it is. Like, you in the hole, eat this motherfucker, you in trouble. I mean, honestly, like, that looks very filling, which is probably, like, okay by me, because when I think about prison, I always just think about, like, having to eat, like, small amounts of food and, like, not enough food, and that seems really torturous. Neutral loaf challenge. Why? Just because you're already in jail. I'm thinking the principles of jail is so you're taken away from the public, not to make you be in here and suffer also. I thought taking the freedom was the suffering.

44:57Yeah, but you're supposed to be scaring them into not going back. But there's cruel and unusual punishment. But that's further and criminalizing people. The constitution about cruel and unusual punishment is punishing nobody with food. Yeah, that's beyond. And you're breaking down a person's mental capacity. Just like what I'm saying. A lot of shit people out here is unconscious too. So like in jail, you got to be in that law library. You got to file certain paperwork to let them know. Like, look out, you in breach and I know what you're doing. They're going to get in line. What's that shit called?

45:22But a dietician, somebody approved this bullshit. Yeah, that's real. He had to keep you alive. Just enough to keep you alive. Yeah, they trying to say, because all it is, like, basically, so let's just say we chopped up all the hamburger meat, the meatloaf, the beans, all that shit is just beans, hamburger meat, all the scraps compacted into one, the fucking potatoes. You know what I'm saying? All it's just compacted into, like, a big ball. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, hey. It doesn't sound bad. Like, it's worse than that. They're saying it's protein. Like, it's really protein. I hate to break it to all of our past and present criminals, but my tax dollars not really intended to be going to paying for Ruth Chris for you and your buddies.

46:03So why? Yeah, you're probably going to have to eat the jukeball. Get a Ruth Chris for you and your buddies. There's a fucking fire line. You know what's crazy? I want you to try it, Adam. There ain't no way to get a jukeball. No, yeah, no. For real. I'd like to try it. I bet you can't eat the whole shit. Tam, do you listen to Taylor Swift's album? Yeah. Why are the Swifties hating? Why are you saying, unfortunately, I love it. all the Swifties. Adam, you do not love it. I love it. I love every single song. You're trying to be a dissenter. No, I'm not. Why is her own fans who literally would like lick?

46:34You're right. Many of them have turned on her over this. But they will all be proven wrong in time. This is the biggest debut album of all time. The people, regardless of that, because it's Taylor Swift in 2025. Four million copies one week. Keep in mind, someone like Drake will do 300k. Michael Jackson's never done four million in one week. Nobody. She did four million in one week. It's not fair because she's got a lot of fans who are buying like 10, 15 copies of the album on different colored vinyl. That's fair. Which like someone like Drake is not even dropping vinyl or CDs. And she's doing different versions.

47:10Exactly. She's gaming the system. She's juicing it because she just dropped like another project you can listen to that's like the whole album, but it's like her rehearsing the songs live. So like she's dropping every different version of this you could possibly drop. but that being said I really like the album and my thing is like a lot of the reason why those fans don't like it is because they want her to make this weird whispery diary entry style like you know really heartfelt yeah but like she used to do a lot more pop songs and stuff the last project didn't have that many pop songs this album is like every single song sounds like it would be a top 40 hit and that personally is kind of what I'm into when it comes to her I'm not really trying to hear you cry and slit your wrist in your notebook what's your favorite Taylor Swift song Adam?

47:51Swifties I don't really go with the song names I just listen to like a wall of her songs Constantly Every day I wake up and I have to listen to Taylor Swift for like an hour and a half with my family Oh cause your daughter Yeah my daughter and my wife My daughter already knows like almost every word to that new album Okay She's singing along to every fucking word and it's kind of creepy Well that's why Taylor Swift was getting the four million cause it's a lot of I don't like music I can't fuck to White girls with a lot of supposed to She got some music you can get like You know what I'm saying You can maybe You can definitely bunny hop to it for show shot Me and my wife, I don't think we would disrespect Taylor by fucking to her music.

48:25As long as you play it, I don't care. Her and Travis Kelsey do it. For sure. She has a song about Travis Kelsey's dick. Yeah, it's called Wood. I don't want to say that. It's the hardest song on the album, for sure. You would like that shit, huh? Well, because she's basically saying, all you girls out there, you ain't got to wait for marriage. You're going to know he's the one when he fuck you. And that's literally the point. Did I misinterpret the record? A lot of the best dick you'll ever get in your life is also from the most toxic dudes you'll ever meet in your life. The whole allegory. I mean, you heard that.

49:01Did I misinterpret the record? No, no, I agree with that. I think, too, this fits perfectly into her fantasy. If you're a Taylor Swift fan and you saw her music videos for You Belong With Me, she always wanted to be the football player's girlfriend and the hot cheerleader girl. And I think she's smart enough because she used to date dudes that were on her level, like all these other like male pop singers and shit like that but when you have like two like really smart sort of like esoteric which is her word type people it's like you're competing against each other instead she found this meathead who's not going to talk back he's obsessed with her and i think that that balance is really like that's what the conservatives want they want they can be each other's trophy you said travis kelsey is obsessed with her oh yeah yeah you You didn't know they were in a relationship?

49:45I know they fuck with each other, but I didn't even obsess with it. They're engaged. Yeah, it's a whole thing. Yeah, don't that seem kind of fast? Or maybe they get started. It's been like three years. Bro, you're not going to ring up that fast? I think it's a year. I think they've been together like a year. Longer than a year. Longer than a year, for sure. At least like three. It's not three, right? No, no, I don't think so. About three. Yeah, he's like two Super Bowls. About three. He won that Super Bowl, so she was there. Yep. And then last year they didn't win. And then this year, so that's three seasons.

50:12I liked his last girl the black girl? so that's the thing she is Kayla Nicole they've been here for two years Kayla Nicole that's another reason why a lot of the fans are going against Taylor because she intentionally did some anti-black jabs talking about I'm not a bad bitch I'm not a savage we know Taylor I didn't take that that way not a what? She said, I'm not a bad bitch. I'm not a savage in one of the songs. But she's talking about being happy in a long-term relationship and not wanting to be young Miami. She's not saying, I don't want to be a black woman because they're all bad bitches and savages.

50:55But all his past public relationships have been with bad bitches, black girls. So that's why I was taken like that. See, this is why you don't want to get famous with a female fan base because they're going to take everything you say and dig into it and misconstrue it intentionally for content. And then you try to diss Charlie XCX talking about, oh, what you say about me when the coke ass you braved. Man, she ethered that bitch. And I'm anti-coke shaming. I don't like that because I feel like it's possible for someone to have a healthy relationship with coke, obviously. Yeah, for real, stop coke shaming.

51:23Some people on this podcast are proof that that is very difficult to pull off, but I don't, she called her a coke head, which. Hold on, what female say some savage shit? Is it Rihanna? Rihanna, Megan Thee Stallion, Beyonce. I think it's a chance she's shooting a shot at Rihanna. Well, it's Rihanna making this out in Beyonce most recently. She ain't cool with Riri. She's cool with them, though. She's really cool with Riri. And Riri is living the exact same life as her. She found a man that she loves, apparently, and they shacked up and had mad kids together. The only difference is that Rihanna stopped working and Taylor's still working like a dog.

51:56She don't have kids yet, either. Rihanna ain't stopped working. She stopped the music part of her working life. Yeah, she still, she's an entrepreneur. What's that called, Fenty? She was in the Smurfs. Yeah, yeah. She got Fenty. She was in movies. She was just in the Smurfs. But Taylor could do that. She could fall back and just piss off. Taylor clearly has enough money that she never has to do anything again for the rest of her life. She didn't have to work in the first place. Her dad is filthy rich. I mean, and I guess we've gotten to some of the reasons why, but overall none of this would even be consequential to the Swifties.

52:25You could be, if you're a Swiftie and don't give a, if she's racist you're racist. Like whatever Taylor's doing, like the real Swifties are going to mirror whatever that is, right? But the thing is that there's a ton of Swifties who are super critical of Taylor at this point. That's a very normal pose. And especially right now, the fan base is kind of split down the middle because there's those who love this album and those who hate it. Because from what I'm seeing, the people that would suck the dirt out of her toes are saying that the album is whack. And that's kind of crazy. No, I'm not even exaggerating.

52:57They'll buy fucking bottles of her farts if they could. Taylor, she started country originally. Yeah. started and then kind of went pop although she did have a song in 2010 she did she had a rap song with T-Pain where she was T-Swifty or something I'm so gangster I'll make cookies I had no idea that that existed I had no idea this existed I seen it as a quote tweet the other day on Twitter and my mind was fucking blown it's like 20 years ago she's like 19 rapping her ass up it's so weird yeah yeah with T-Pain ad-libbing her I had no idea that existed I think it was like when she was first it was probably like after her first album right around that time the rappers she's done songs with though also Future, Kendrick Lamar, Ice Spice arguably the top three rappers of all time pretty strong resume but I do feel like Ice Spice?

53:52she did my top three at least top five little Eskimo Ice Spice said she hot but she still gotta put some work in She's due to the game. She ain't at the top that far. Why Taylor get her straight out on her? You said she did start with Drake or not? I think Drake spanked her. But Drake glazed her on his last project. He spanked her? No, spanked her. I think he spanked her. I think he didn't. That's why he unfollowed her. Because he brought her out to OBO Fest, and then she left, and he unfollowed her. Because she probably didn't drop her. That's how you know what I'm saying? Oh, that's flirting.

54:24Light-skinned flirting. I believe he spanked her before. I doubt it. I don't know. Man, Drake, you got a coach. He do. There's nothing to suggest that, and I don't think anybody believes that. I don't think he has ice-pice and shit. I mean, I feel like I'm familiar with a large majority. No, Drake didn't hit me. I'm familiar with a large majority of the Taylor Swift. This is how deep I am. I'm going to tell you guys something. And please, all the Taylor Swift fan accounts, please clip this. There is a segment of her fan base that calls themselves Gaylers. and it's basically people who are convinced that she's a secret lesbian and that anything that she does that presents her as a heterosexual is basically like for her public image.

55:04Yes, a beard. An anti-beard, I guess. Is that cosplay? And that Travis Kelsey, they're not in a real relationship. And my girl went to a Taylor Swift listening party, like a fan event, and they were giving out bracelets for the gaylers so you could identify the people who were involved with this. It's like QAnon for Taylor Swift. That's straight fan fiction, though, right? There is no reason to actually believe this. Yeah, it's insane. So basically, she's burying this thought for them and going along with it and giving them bracelets when they come out. So this bracelet, the Gaylor bracelet, is its own thing.

55:39But then also, her fans make bracelets with different words written out of the beads, and then they give them to each other at the concert. Do you want something to feed into this theory? Please. We would love to hear the female black perspective on Taylor Swift. it's really lacking in the dialogue these days former boyfriend Joe Alwyn has recently been seen out with the girl from Euphoria which one? Sydney Sweeney? no Hunter Schaefer she's trans yeah and she kind of looks like a hotter more fashionable Taylor Swift in my opinion I mean hotter is a very subjective you're not going to get us to sign up for that one Hunter Schaefer is killing in the Schiaffarelli that shit should be illegal that trans shit What, just being trans?

56:22That just shouldn't be illegal. Being trans should be illegal. They need to put an identifying barcode or something on that. That ain't cool. Dictator Munchie, he's got a barcode. Mark of the Beast. And that shit ain't straight. You see what Cindy Starr did to Chingy? Oh, yeah. They did. Designer was behind her all on stage dancing. He didn't. Well, designer might have known. To be fair, all that Siggy Stark did was she took a photo with Chingy and then told the world that they hooked up, and it was a total lie, and it basically ruined his career. Yeah, I mean, so that's not, when you say all she did, all she did is completely slaughtered.

56:59But I'm saying that they didn't do anything. It's not like they were even in a hotel room. That's the point. If they had taken a photo in a hotel room, then I would kind of get it because it would look crazy. They took a photo, like, on stage. Yeah, exactly. But this is, like, earlier social media. This is MySpace era. It was impossible to negate a rumor. If there was a rumor, you just didn't really have a way to get rid of it. Now, Chingy would put out a scathing two-minute TikTok responding to it, and the whole narrative would shift the next day. An Instagram story would be like, I don't even know that bitch.

57:30She's like, I don't even know her. She talked the truth years later. Yeah. Well, it don't matter no more. You already know her own his career. Yeah. So what happened with Taylor Swift and other dude? Because that's what I thought. I looked up. She was dating. Like British from England or something What's his name Like a movie star Maddie Healy Wasn't she supposed to be marrying him You want to know what he did So she starts dating him And then There's an old podcast clip that he was on. Not even that old, but he's talking about Ice Spice. And he refers to her as like an Alaska. She looked like an Eskimo or some shit.

58:07He's kind of clowning her for her looks, but not even like really clowning her. Like it was some real light shit that if it was a hip hop thing, nobody give a fuck. But because Taylor Swift got the most sensitive, retarded, fucking woke female audience, they immediately start tripping. He's a racist. Well, he called her like a chubby black girl or something. Yeah. Well, I don't think he said black girl. I think he said Chubby Eskimo. Well, here's the thing. I don't think it's beyond the racial. I don't know if she stopped dating for that. That's what got I Spice to teach you. And that's why she did the song with I Spice.

58:37And that's why she brought I Spice to all those NFL games. And there's this really awkward footage of them hanging out. And Taylor Swift is just like, you know, like a poet. She's got all these words at her disposal. And I Spice is like, I like soup. I like pasta. 30s. She's 35. I think. She's been married before? She's like 36. She's 36, 37. But here's the thing. That was when Ice Spice lost her thickness. That was really when we got Ozempic Spice. I like soup. I don't know. I should have thought of something funnier than that, but I was just trying to think of something to get the point across that she's going to slow.

59:18I don't think she has a lot of words at her disposal at any given time. She's the hottest girl with Down Syndrome I've ever seen in my life. Why? She got Down Syndrome. Who? Hypothetically. I spy. I spy. I spy. I got Down Syndrome. Wait, who are you talking about? Well, I don't do her like that. I don't know. She's like. You ain't got her everywhere. She ain't got her everywhere if I get to interview her. She's like, I said, Down Syndrome. She's hot. She's hot. I've been obsessed with her forever. There might be a touch of the Downs in it. You ain't caught the flight up there to look for her yet.

59:50Well, that's like, I'm not like Dahmer obsessed. Where's she from? Where's she from? New York. The Bronx, right? The Bronx, the BX. Okay, honestly, she obviously doesn't have, the fact that I have to qualify this is insane. She doesn't have Down syndrome, but there's just been hella memes and people saying that for a long time. She doesn't have Down syndrome, but she might have the same IQ as a person with Down syndrome. Yeah, or at least fetal alcohol syndrome. Yeah. Come on, bust it out. Bust it out. Put on my girl, I Spice. Yeah, I Spice, we love you, I Spice. Yo, the first piece of content that Ice Spice ever did in her entire career was for No Jumper.

1:00:26Look it up. Look it up. That's amazing. Black Dave went to her neighborhood and did a video with her and I almost didn't post it because I felt like this is for sure just Dave trying to get some pussy. I did not see the talent. And to be fair, her music sucked at that point. It got a lot better a few months later. She didn't have that flow or nothing, I swear to God. She didn't have the cool frizzy hair either. She had a fake long hair wig. She's hard. I'm not going to say that I've never jammed ice by song. I'm not going to say that. She's actually hard. But I'm not going to say that there's not a little downsiness.

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1:01:38Just use code NOJUMPER, one word, at checkout for a discount. I would like to say, now that we're done talking about Taylor Swift, salute to the man himself, one of my favorite rappers in the last 10 years. Pooh Shiesty has made his way home after doing something like four years in the box. And I'm happy to see him back. And I hope that he has not lost what made his flow so special the first time around because we've seen that happen plenty of times. Dudes get locked up and they start rapping weird. So welcome back, Pooh Shiesty. He came out and immediately got in Cardi B's comment. Yeah, he was.

1:02:16I know, and I was wondering, was that what he was kind of planning all along? He said he got in Cardi B's comment? He was like, I love it. He started shooting a shot right away. He said, I don't give a fuck about the offset relationship. I'm shooting my shot at Cardi B. Well, she's pregnant right now, so is that a thing? Yeah, with a fruitcake, too. You know, Stephon Diggs got a lot going on. He like, shit, that ain't about to lie. I'm trying to be stepped out. He's got four kids on the way. He ain't got her pregnant. And he's getting his booty hole fisted? Oh, my God. You don't know about that?

1:02:44He got his balloon push. You don't know? He got a gay rumor out about him, but that ain't confirmed. No, Cardi B, who has notoriously been a homophobe throughout her career, is pregnant from a booty bandit. Whoa. Is this confirmed? You're not going to say allegedly? Listen, we could do some research, but I'm going to ask Chad G.B.T. if Stephon Diggs a booty bandit. Is that why his last name is Diggs? I did see the video of the guy saying that he had his friends beat him up after he didn't want to go with his advances, but Cardi then in the argument said that that was fake, so I don't know what to believe.

1:03:13Yeah, I don't know. I forgot one of his exes. Yeah, there are rumors and social media claims that question his sexuality or suggest conspiracy theories, but nothing verified or substantiated by reliable sources. I mean, what I saw, and that's been a big thing from Nicki Minaj, that she's been roasting Cardi B saying that, like, oh, you're pregnant by a gay dude. She has a baby by a pedophile. Yeah, she's the last person that can speak on anybody's choice in men. You see how she just cooked up that ether real quick? Like, invalidate your man. I mean, but she really, like, Nikki has a track record of, like, harboring abusers.

1:03:49She's Epstein Island. She's a human embodiment. Epstein Island. You're paying for niggas' weddings and shit, putting money on their books. Epstein Island. From her brother to her. From her brother to her. From her brother to her. Yeah. She's like, she's got a collection. To her man. She's got a collection. I think a rehearsal where she got, from her younger years, she was touched or something. That's what they put out about her, allegedly. Her mom didn't protect her. Protected from her dad. Nikki got arrested? Yeah, by her dad. I didn't know that really well. But it kind of made sense, though, because, you know, she used to dress like a stud.

1:04:17You know what I'm saying? So she probably, that made her want to put on them clothes and not show her figure if she didn't got tuxed. I remember Nicki Minaj's when she had a normal body back in the day in Queens. She looked like a regular girl, and now she got the wildest, like, Mariah Mills-style body. Yeah, I mean, she's a Barbie. She told us a long time ago what time it was, and I guess that's not really, like, frowned upon. The Barbie that I grew up playing with was rather trim. Well, yeah, she's like, I think standards of that ass done changed. You was playing with Barbie and kid? Yeah, a little bit.

1:04:49A little bit? Just playing with Ken, no big deal. I remember my mom walked in. I played with Ken. My mom walked in on me, and I had created an orgy with the Ninja Turtles and the Barbies. I was like nine. That's so tight. The Ninja Turtles, I had put dresses on someone. It was me and my friend. we were just fucking around but she was bummed this is how I know that we can put the toys up play time over what she said put the toys up what are you doing my mom is uh emotionally available to the point where I think that instead of shaming me she just like kind of just like went to a room and thought about what if her son was a fruitcake and uh I actually at least one time in my childhood I heard my mom having a phone conversation with her friend about if I was gay or not.

1:05:40Really? But she said no. That doesn't sound gay. No, it was unrelated to that. Because the Ninja Turtles beaten down some dudes. No, what the fuck? She said no. Yo. Is that what you was just doing? Listening to you? Yeah, yeah, I was. I was just listening to my mom. Well, I heard her talking about me. She's like, what the fuck is she about to say? I don't want to unplug the phone. Yo, you know what fucked me up, though? When I was in Boston, you know how when you're in a city, there's always the manhole covers with the smoke coming out of it? Well, number one, my kid is really interested in cigarettes.

1:06:12She just thinks it's crazy when she sees somebody smoking. She knows it's bad, and she'll just be like, Dad, that guy's smoking a cigarette, even though it's like the millionth time. She said it to me like a thousand times, but she still points it out. Because he's killing himself. I mean, she just thinks it's crazy, and she thinks it's super crazy like her grandma smokes cigarettes. She can't wrap her head around the fact that there's something bad and that people that she knows do it. But anyway, so I see the manhole cover with all the smoke coming out of it, and recently I had a conversation with her about the Ninja Turtles saying they live in the sewer or whatever.

1:06:41And I said to her, I'm like, you see that smoke coming out of that manhole cover? That's the Ninja Turtles smoking cigarettes down in the sewer. And she just looks at me and goes, Dad, the Ninja Turtles aren't real. Which I also have had to tell her. Because sometimes I tell her crazy stories about different things. The other day I was telling her a bedtime story about Pokemon and she's like, Dad, Team Rocket's not real, right? I'm like, no. You gotta roll it back before you go. She needed that verification, though. It could be kind of an intimidating presence, if we're being honest. Well, they are.

1:07:16They're kind of scary. I used to be off the candy cigarettes when I was young. Hell yeah! That's where we came. Bro, what happened to that? I go to a gas station frequently that has those. I bought them one time and brought them in. You know what that is, Tim? Yeah, I got in trouble for smoking them before. Oh, yeah, yeah. I stay with me. I think candy cigarettes. That's funny. I grew up all in the smoke. That's crazy. I feel like just cigarettes were way more normalized in culture, obviously. Like when I was growing up, my dad, who didn't do no type of drugs and would have an occasional beer, would smoke at the dinner table.

1:07:51In the house. Real Mad Men style. And this was normal. This is, I guess, the way the 80s were. Or even smoke on airplanes. Even when I was 12 or whatever, you would go into the Denny's near my house, and it would be like there was a smoking section and a regular section, but it was like obviously basically the same and you could just smell cigarettes while you're eating your burger. Yeah, when I was a kid, old men used to be smoking in a donut shop in the morning. I miss it, honestly, yeah. I know this probably ain't taking place in New Hampshire, right? But, and I know this, for sure it ain't happening today, but my mama used to send me to the store with a note to get her some cigarettes.

1:08:24They used to give it to me. Oh yeah, back in the day. Smoking cigarettes in the house is wild. Hey, yo mama ain't never sent you to the store to get no cigarettes with a note? Yeah. Nah, for sure. When I was younger, I had to have a talk with my mama to stop smoking cigarettes. She had got off of cigarettes, but nah. My mom used to love Kools when I was younger. She used to love a pack of Kools, for sure. When I was 17, I would be visiting my grandma in New York, and I'd get cigarettes, because I was already buying cigarettes for myself, and she would smoke Benson. How old was you? I was like 17, 16, 17.

1:08:55Smoking cigarettes already? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I started smoking. I was like 12, 13. and she was smoked Benson and Hedges 100 ultralights that's what mama smoked Benson and Hedges Irish cigarette or something yeah it was like the weirdest cigarette order it was so exotic damn Munchie it's weird that there's so many like off brand cigarette brands that like no like one of Lena's uncles smokes denim cigarettes denim? Denim? I swear, that's the brand. Denim. How do you get into your preference? A cigarette. Where do you even find that? I've never even seen it in the store. Is it like the person that introduced you to cigarettes, whatever you smoke?

1:09:34It's also just some old-ass Armenian shit, probably. It's probably normal to him. But every day, every time I see him, I just look at it like, how the fuck are you smoking Denim? I used to love the smell of Black and Miles when I was younger. Hold that, Mikey. I think that the... He said he loved... He said he looks like the smell of Black and Miles? Yeah, I used to... Like when I was younger? Treacherous. I hate that to this day. I used to like the smell when I was a kid. good to me for some reason. Like when I'm doing an interview with someone and they're smoking Black & Miles there's definitely a different level of disgust in my brain at that time.

1:10:04Because they smell so strong and just weird and kind of fruity smelling. Say they 10 cigarettes. Yeah right. That's the song. One of my first college roommates a girl. Brittany I'm sorry I love you. When I would come home she would be smoking a black on the porch like you're going through it huh? How does a girl down bad moments ever? A girl doing that is crazy. Smoking a black. Your body is not meant for that. You gotta pay rent. You're living in LA, stressed out, 18. Did she used to freak them? I don't know. Freak them. This is where you pinch it and shit, right? Oh, yeah, I don't know. You pinch it like you roll to loosen up the tobacco so you can like, it's going to hit more.

1:10:39If you just take it out the pack and smoke it, it's going to be like a tight smoke. You know, like if you freak it, you know what I'm saying, loosen it up, loosen up the tobacco, you can really hit it. But if you don't freak it, then it'll last for you a good two hours. Can I freak it? Yo, Donnie, I got a question. I got some weed from Donnie yesterday. He rode me some spliffs. I'm not going to lie. It knocked me on my fucking ass last night. The most fucked up I've ever got from smoking a spliff was last night, right before I went to bed. I honestly kind of thought that I was going to pass out and hit my head on the wall going back into the crib.

1:11:13There's nothing special about the weed that you got? No. I don't understand. No, I think is it a tobacco maybe, like the amount of tobacco? I don't understand the amount as normal. I eat cigarettes an ounce for him. What you smoke? You smoke blend? Yeah. Turquoise American. Turquoise American spirit. You put it in your weed? Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. Is that grimy? That's like you smoking blend. I'm like the only like probably me and my other homies, I just smoke pure green. Like my homies, they be blend out. But you put it in a blunt. Yeah, but still. A blunt is the tobacco and nicotine. The loose leaf, it smokes light like a paper almost.

1:11:53It does, huh? Yeah, so I don't like the strong tobacco. Even if you get a grabber leaf, so it's just like you already got the strong tobacco paper, and then you putting more, you putting blend on top of that. Oh, that shit choked me to death. I feel like I added years to my life when I switched from backwoods to smoking these, though. So much less of the gnarly shit. Dude, I'll say this, Adam. I took a bong rip of your blend a couple times, and every time I hit it, it made me super lightheaded, like uncomfortably. And this is coming from me. I'm going to be real. And I know that it was not just me because I smoked one of the older sliffs I had, like my last one.

1:12:31Then I went and I did an hour and a half long walk. Then I came back and I smoked one of those and it fucking rocks me. I had to go to bed. But in a good way, though, is that the desired effect at that point? I still felt dizzy like this morning. It felt like it stuck with, I don't know what it was. Cut back on the tobacco. Lower the tobacco. He's saying it's the same amount. I don't know. Because those cones that we had are bigger. So maybe it's just more. Yeah, maybe it's more. I don't know. I don't know. Okay, I also, I think, let's talk about our first real topic of the day. Let's click that one.

1:13:05Lil Durk being accused of trying to get O-Block members killed for not slying for Vaughn. This is a new allegation coming from the FBI that is pretty mind-blowing. because you know it's one thing to accept that little dirk was sending killers across the country to go get at quando rondo and his boys right that's one thing because they they killed king vaughn so it's understandable i guess that you would be mad at them but the fbi is now saying that in addition to that they basically have snitches who are claiming that dirk tried to send boonie mo to oblock to kill monaduke or kind of like whoever because he felt like they weren't acting in like they weren't going after Vaughn's killers as quickly as he would have hoped which is kind of insane because it's like what you so you expect these guys from Oblog who let's be real are probably mostly broke you expect them to take the charge in terms of getting Kondo Rondo or Lil Tim or whoever knocked off like that this is just like a wild new uh accusation that kind of goes totally in a different direction than the stuff that we knew about him previously.

1:14:16They're trying to like weaponize the slide for Vaughn meme, essentially. And that whole movement on social media. Yeah. So all this alleged, right? But just like kind of like off the wall, I'm going to just throw a hypothetical out there. Let's just say if this was true and Dirk was mad at them, it would be a reason for him to be mad. Obviously, they probably had the necessities they needed to slide for, you know what I'm saying, King Von, and they wasn't. But the thing is that it's so out of town. If you want to go find Kwon Do Rondo, you either got to go to where he's staying at in California, which, look, once Dirk sent people on a mission to California, it's like you got to fly people out.

1:14:58You got to get rental cars. You got to do all. And then you're still going to get caught. Your entourage go where you go anyway, right? So they can manipulate how you want to say it, whatever, because you paying for your entourage to go places. Game bangers don't do murder for hire. We slide for our homies for free. So they need to kill that. They need to have a gang expert go to that trail when they do go. I ain't going to go with families. I ain't paying no English with families to go do nothing to nobody. They the opposite anyway. They killed our homie, not mine, ours. But think about it if you're Dirk where it's like obviously you're way too famous to go kill somebody on your own.

1:15:35You have to enlist people to do it if you want to get it done. Him going to his own community, though, and trying to get people knocked off over there doesn't make any sense. But that's the thing. He's a BD. He's not from O 'Block, though. Exactly. People like to think of Chicago being BDs and GDs, but the reality is that they are from very different sections, and especially since Dirk got locked up, we've seen numerous different rifts between different factions in between Lamron and Oblock and everything like that. And I'm not going to lie, a little birdie came to me in recent memory and told me that there is a famous person, let's just say a BD, from Chicago that Dirk is believed in the streets to have been involved with getting him knocked off.

1:16:23And if true, this is one of the most explosive accusations in Chicago history. and when someone told me it was the kind of thing where I just didn't even really think about it that much because I'm just like, that sounds so crazy. I don't even know what to do with it. This validates that a lot. This makes me think, oh, shit. That person probably wasn't just talking shit. So I don't know. I mean, this is some crazy new shit. Like, how much other shit? And if they really got people just, like, telling everything on Dirk, I mean, we're never going to see this fool again. But from what they're saying, like, all right, so, like, in YouTube, so it just seems like, like, to me, it seems like their case is weak.

1:16:59So with their case being weak, they just come in. With new allegations. New allegations and all this is allegations. And Dirk Lawyer is like, okay, well, y 'all saying this, what a proof of it. Y 'all try to come with the proof of this. That didn't work out. Only thing you see that they got that really is kind of sticking is a text message telling somebody that, hey, man, don't do nothing on my credit card. Everything else they coming with, like his lawyer, it's like eating it up. Like, man, we're like, all right, that's just smoke, man. y 'all that's just talk like where's the evidence at i feel like that sounds good until people start telling on well they've also there's also evidence that have they've claimed to have that we haven't seen yet like they claim to have surveillance of the conversation at the burger stand post drill whatever you feel me they literally that they claim to have this we haven't seen it we still don't know coco number four is you feel me and how that plays into the whole situation and like Honestly, free Dirk.

1:17:59The thing in the court of public opinion hurting him the most is him making that song Beverly Hills. And essentially... Well, rapper don't rap about Beverly Hills or Calabasas or Malibu. Well, he ain't rap about Beverly Hills. He rapped about... How long Dirk been locked up? Beverly Center? No, a shooting that occurred in Beverly Hills, and that's where the shooting occurred at. You feel me? So even if he wasn't talking about that, it just don't look good for him. It ain't age well. Yeah, these are the things that, well, and it dropped right around the same. It dropped, like, a few months beforehand, I believe.

1:18:33How long has Dirk been locked up? In about over a year. Yeah. Yeah. Let me ask y 'all a question. Did I hear right that, like, they had some civilians, like, somebody was coming through the alley and came around and started busting on them dudes? They was at a gas station gassing up. But the fools are all masked up and shit when they start shooting. But they can't throw an alley. I mean, that's somebody, like, probably from L.A., bro, that's familiar. Like, you know what I'm saying? Well, that's kind of part of the allegation as well. Well, Chicago nigga know how to tip through alleys and come out of cuts and shit in L.A.

1:19:01You know what I'm saying? This is true. And look, I don't think Dirk did it. I really don't. Free Dirk, 1 ,000%. You're crazy. I mean, it just doesn't look good when you, like, these are the reasons why people would think that he, like, why he's even being held accountable or even this trial's going on to begin with. Listen, free Dirk for show, but the idea that he is not guilty is slowly becoming harder and harder for me to wrap my head around. What about, I mean, all y 'all thought Dave was guilty, right? David? Listen, I never made a public statement about that, and I still am having a hard time wrapping it around my head.

1:19:37I wrap my head around how David isn't guilty. You said that didn't age well. Well, David, he got romantic homicide, talking about killing a broad and putting her in the trunk, and that really happened. For sure. but that alone is not enough to put a murder on somebody there's been hella legislation about this like the whole Bobby Schmurder thing they used that song as evidence against him to get GS9 indicted you feel me? they used that as evidence in California they can't use your music against you unless you're talking about what exactly happened yeah I mean if they don't use that against if David goes to trial and they don't use that shit against him that is a crime against humanity.

1:20:18Because how the fuck could you not use songs? Like, if you watch Traveler Ross' whole video breaking down all the lyrics, I mean, this is just... It should be illegal to not show that to the jury. They need to know about that shit. Well, I mean... But he ain't even been charged, right? Still. And again, that doesn't mean that he's necessarily... That don't show that he's innocent to me. But they came out publicly, and didn't the police make a statement and say that he's not a suspect of interest. He's interoperating. Yeah, they did. They raided his whole house, took a ton of shit out of his house, but apparently they didn't find enough to actually put charges on him.

1:20:57One thing I've been hearing a lot is that they don't have a cause of death for her yet, and so that's a big problem. They just don't have, like, they don't know how she died yet, and so once that's established, there's a lot of rumors that maybe she had a drug overdose and that they just stashed the body there, which sounds insane. Like when you want to put the body like literally anywhere besides the trunk of your own car. And why would you chop it up? So that's fake news then. Somebody just came out the other day on social media and said the cause of death. I could have sworn it was supposed to have been like an overdose or something like that.

1:21:25I don't think they know the cause of death yet. That dude, I know his name, that did the autopsy. He's a nobody with that shit. He only been doing it for three years, bro. He don't know what he's doing. What did he say was a cause of death? Overdose? It's inconclusive. He don't have a cause. And they already released the body to the family. So what that death certificate does that mean? And let's be specific, not to be graphic, but not a body remains. Because it was severed remains. Not only decomposed, but severed. You feel me? I don't even know if they found the whole body, to be honest with you.

1:21:56I don't believe they have. I mean, you got to watch your kids, man. Because it feels like she was running around from home. She was doing all kinds of shit. And her parents were not all that concerned. They're not working that hard to find her. And I think that's the whole point. She was faking her age and shit, though. Because they were saying they thought she lied and said she went to USC or some shit. yeah but that's how mature is our body but there's so much to suggest that he was 100 % aware of the fact that she's underage and that they knew this was a big thing honestly david to me seems like he was probably like so inexperienced and mentally immature that he probably didn't really like understand how bad him being in a relationship with an underage girl is gonna fuck up his career especially because it's not like it was a well-kept secret he was on twitch streaming with If you see all these Reddit posts, all these people in his comments, his fans were joking around about him being a pedophile and stuff, which granted he's young, he's 18, 19, 20, as he's becoming famous, so maybe they didn't think it was that serious.

1:22:53They probably didn't know that the girl was 12. Maybe they thought that there was just a year or two age difference, but either way, it feels like he was just a total idiot with no real-world experience, no friends to tell him, this is going to fuck your whole life up. But they got a matching tattoo. Yeah, the shirt thing. So, like, this dude, man, is like, look. I'm surprised he's free, bro. I've seen a clip of him where he was talking about, like, he, like, either fantasized playing a role or writing a book of, like, a detective who was at a point of time was turning into a psychopathic killer and then turned back into the detective and he had to solve the murder.

1:23:36I was just like, just even this pattern of thinking, I'm like, this dude off. Like, what? Yeah, sounds like some Jeffrey Donaldson. I'm like, are you a detective? So I guess when it strikes midnight, you turn into this serial killer. Then after you finish killing, you turn back into the detective. You solve the crime. Dr. Jekyll and Hyde, but nobody ever goes down. And he publicly, I'm just looking at this dude out of the... Once I seen that shit, I was like, he fucked me. He messed my head up. I was like, I don't want to... You know what's the one thing that I feel like this is kind of like, this is evening things out a little bit because it's like in hip hop, you kind of have like two different sides.

1:24:13You got like the streets and then you got the weirdos. And this is like epitomized by when you look at Florida and like back in the era where No Jumper kind of spawned where you'd have like X and ski mask and then you'd have like Kodak. And it's kind of like the same area and you get the street kids and then you got the weird kids. The weird kids, as much as they have been viral over the years, the Lil Pumps, the XXH Instacions, the Juice WRLDS, etc. No murders. No bodies. Nothing like that. Yes, you got a 6ix9ine getting locked up, but that's more on the street side of things. Even if you look weird, he's hanging on with these gang members, etc.

1:24:49Now it's like we finally got a weirdo rap murder. Hold on. He's a singer, right? David? I'm going to be real. I didn't even listen to his music yet. I want to check it out, but I ain't really heard him yet. You probably heard him on TikTok Reels. You didn't even realize you heard the song. Yeah, he went viral off of TikTok. What's the name of the song before Romance Accomba? He had another one that was like his big. I don't care. We looked up his numbers. Yeah, that one. He lit, bro. That one. Yeah, he was super. I think the reason why an arrest hasn't been made specifically is because there's obviously a lot more people that are complicit in this, including the entire community.

1:25:26They were talking about kids getting paid off, all this, or, you know what I'm saying, bribes and all that. Managers, people working with him and stuff. Who knows what they knew, you know? And the fact remains, he was on tour when that car turned up. So, like, he did not act alone. But she'd been missing since last year, February. Correct. Then came up the 5th, like, they, what, found a car. The 6th is her birthday. Then the 7th, they popped the trunk because of the smell at the tow yard. Yeah, literally what happened. She'd been, she'd been, she'd probably been, and I think she's been dead since August and they found her in September, August this year.

1:26:04So like, I don't know. But that's like further proof of the fact that he was very inexperienced and didn't have any fucking common sense because literally any of us, if we had to dispose of a body, could think of a better plan than putting it in your trunk and then getting the car towed. Well, now this says that he's hired an investigator to figure out why or how her remains ended up in his car. So he's claiming to not have any idea of how he is. Hey, bro. He got a pretty good PR. I'm not buying this shit. How is he free when your car is abandoned, collecting tickets, and they finally called to get this shit told?

1:26:38You ain't wondering where your car at? It was in front of his house, I guess, and then they told it from in front of the house. It was down the street from his house. Maybe he's so inexperienced and stupid that he doesn't think that a body is going to smell enough to smell it outside of a Tesla. I think somebody in his entourage did it. It ought to be somebody else. All this was planned. He already knew all this was planned. All this is planned. He was a weird. It's hard for us. He might be enjoying this. How can we put ourselves in the head of somebody that's so deranged that he's trying to fuck on little girls regardless and have all entire relationships?

1:27:08Of course, he's going to do some weird ass shit and get caught up. He's chopping up bodies. We can't even like fathom that level of depravity. Regardless, if we've done some crazy shit ourselves, that's like another fucking level right there. I don't think you know her age like that, though, bro. Because if you're from Lake Elsinore, how is you all outside like that? You're going to assume this person is older. I mean, maybe not at first, but, like, I mean. He knew her age. He knew. What kind of 12 or 13-year-old is, like, mistakable for an 18-year-old? Sure. You know, I can imagine, like, a smaller age difference being, like, you might not know, but, like, bro, like, 11, 12?

1:27:42Like, what are we talking about? Hey, but you heard her when she was arguing with the S.A. next door? Yeah, that was kind of wild. Like, she seemed like one of the fast little homegirls like that. For sure. That's, like. For sure. She acting way older than what she is. They're saying, like, why are you talking like a block? Why are you talking like a block? You're not block. Yeah, she kept saying the N-word. Yeah, it's so funny how there's this little gang arc right there. That's the only gang connection to this whole thing. They said, yeah, we ain't black over here. The South Side over here, fool.

1:28:09Like, yo, are you talking like you're black? Yo, but I'm not going to lie. All right, so at ComplexCon, like, two years ago, I think it was, Remo and the kid OneTrack who was doing some content for us at the time, they had a whole conversation with this fool, David. And, like, I'm kind of bummed because it's like, God, how epic would it have been if I had, like, a fire interview with this fool? Obviously, you can't get them all. You don't know who's going to end up being a killer. But, man. You got to catch them all. And I asked Remo. I got to catch them all. Pokemon Go is your favorite game. I asked Remo.

1:28:38I'm like, yo, do you think that, like, he, like, was he trying to do an interview at the time? And Remo was like, yeah, honestly. He's like, I didn't even mention it to you because he just seemed like a random. He didn't really have no motion or anything. Random. He was paying$20 ,000 a month for that house he was living in. that's what i'm saying and if you look at his numbers on everything it's pretty impressive but also like i'm looking at his instagram and it's like hundreds of thousands of likes and then like 200 comments i'm just looking at it like nah this shit ain't real i think they were faking it till he made it he made it in a weird way tours though so it might be real yeah but once you get that industry uh battery in your bag all of a sudden you're sitting with zane low you got 100 000 fake likes on your instagram all they they juicing your numbers on the music videos and stuff like they will make you seem way bigger than you are and i'm not gonna lie like i feel like i've said this before but i'm really learning and starting to understand how many people are faking their fucking numbers in the industry and podcasting in music i've always kind of known but i've just like found out about a lot more shit recently and even if if anybody watches my sneeko interview that i did on stream the other day under the live uh section section of the no jumber page he put me on to some shit about basically like how buying live viewers on Twitch and shit that's the only thing like what else are you going to do there's no other way for you to stand out in that directory because that puts you on the front of the panel and everybody else is doing it so you got to do it too I'm like what the he said you sign up with an Indian guy and you pay him 10 % of what you make and then he juices your streams on everything but the YouTube that doesn't make sense though right because YouTube doesn't prioritize algorithms based on your live viewers.

1:30:16That is true, but also, he's kind of making the point you need fake numbers on your content so you can get bigger guests. Yeah. Which, there are streamers that I know of who I think that they fake their numbers, and when I think about it, they get a bunch of big guests, and they probably, people go on Kaisenata. It's the happiest day of their life. For sure. Why? Because he has huge numbers. Now, I mean, there's two ways to get those numbers. You could be really popular or you could buy the fake numbers, but celebrities just want promotion. And for artists, they need it for booking placements at festivals and this and that.

1:30:51If you have a lot of monthly listeners or if you have a lot of engagement on social media, that'll be the difference between you getting booked. Exactly. You might have to fake one part of your career. You fake your YouTube views so you still get booked for the festivals and the shows. And you do those shows, it looks good. But you have to fake one part of your career to support the other part of your career. And I only feel comfortable talking about this because I'm somebody who's never done this. I'm slowly starting to feel like, what the fuck am I? I'm missing out. Because as an artist, it's really frustrating when you know.

1:31:19Who's fucking blowing up? It's not mine. As an artist, it becomes frustrating when you know that you've impacted more than what the numbers are reflecting that people are using as a metric at a specific time. You could have sold 50 ,000 copies of a tape or even had hundreds of thousands of downloads on DatPiff and been super relevant. But by the time the Spotify era came around, you know what I'm saying you didn't even reach streaming services until a certain year so you don't have as many monthly listeners so that becomes artists feel compelled to pad their numbers to keep up with that shit so it's like it's been something that that's why people have hella monthly listeners and followers but can't sell hard tickets to their own show hey so ain't no way like people be manipulating like streams or sales because they bundle it with merch yes but they don't count that as like a bot stream or nothing it's still cheating but they don't count that as fake and basically everybody does that now travis scott is a pioneer well yeah and at this point that they've actually changed their policy multiple times billboards changed it from like we don't first they were like it's all good and people were getting absurd amount of uh sales and first week sales because of bundle packages then they were then they removed it and then they allowed it again but just in certain circumstances that was one of nikki minaj's original beats right she had beef with Travis, Stormy, and Kylie.

1:32:40Well, yeah. Sweaters. They were doing like a makeup collab. It was like a Kylie Cosmetics product that also counted as an Astroworld sale. And that's like the era of Astroworld doing whatever, like 700, 800K in its first week, which you'll probably never see a rap album hit that again. Well, yeah. They were tripping on Juice WRLD for bundling and shit. Even for smaller releases, they would trip on it. It's crazy. But that goes back. Remember when U2, like the band U2. They put that shit on everybody's phone. Yeah, everybody fucking whatever phone it was. I think it was like any iTunes had it automatically downloaded.

1:33:14It's just crazy that that didn't become like a normal thing. They did that one time and then never did it again. Everybody complained so bad. Yeah, they got a hella backlash from it. So we could say Soulja Boy, he started clickbait, right? Because that's how he manipulated it on YouTube. He put different people. Way before YouTube. He was with the title and then it'd be his music when they click it. Yeah, exactly. Well, I miss the days of the YouTube algorithm being hella stupid and easy to fool. I remember there was a BMX rider from LA named Chris Brown. And I would upload his videos, and they would get a huge surge of views at first because they would go into the Chris Brown algorithm, but it would turn off.

1:33:52They would figure it out pretty quickly, like, oh, this is not Chris Brown. And all the comments would be, this is not Chris Brown the singer. and then like i i know i know a bmx team that went to like uh brazil or argentina or some shit they filmed the video for a week they put the video out on youtube the thumbnail literally just a woman's ass she got like two million views that wouldn't work anymore i feel like i feel like that might could work still no you're not allowed to put a woman's ass like it was like an ass like in a thong like like the the filmer just filmed like a girl wearing like a g-string walking on the street, and they had a quick clip of it in the video, and this is before you could pick your own thumbnails, I think, so they put it at the right exact second in the video so that they could make it the thumbnail.

1:34:35It worked like crazy. They got mad views, and then that was it. You know what was fire? When Worldstar Hip Hop, before they had their own player, they used to take from the YouTube player. So if you got a video on Worldstar, it would count for your fucking views. Really? So when our battle rap channel first started cracking off, everything was going on Worldstar and it padded shit like insane. Man, that was the golden era as far as the lawlessness of YouTube. Yeah, when you could fake everything. Yeah. Upload porn. Upload the new South Park episode. Oh, yeah. That's like 2004, my memories of that.

1:35:13Okay. Speaking of sales, I think it's pretty remarkable that Young Thug saw 52K given that he previously said that he bought 50 ,000 fake album sales for Gunna. That makes the fact, or maybe 54K. Either way, it's like the fact that he apparently didn't care enough to buy sales for his own project kind of shows how much he cared about Gunna sales at that time slash the fact that maybe there's a little bit too much scrutiny on him right now. have you guys still been listening to the Thug album or was this like a one listen thing for you I listened to it in preparation to come here and talk to them about it and nobody else listened to it so I wasted my time sounds like a No Jumper episode I listened to it the day it dropped and it was like honestly I really tried to put myself through a different lens when I heard it and it was kind of difficult because I always like I tried to listen to it the same way when I was like Young Thug was one of my favorite rappers and just didn't have these stigmas attached to it.

1:36:17I don't know. There's nothing that really stuck out. I think because his voice has changed so much, a lot of the things I liked about Young Thug and just what made his style, him rapping in cursive and hitting these weird high notes that don't make sense and warbling that he used to do. Stylistic. Yeah, the stylistic eccentricities he used to have don't really... He's just kind of talking and it's not really hitting the same for me. So snitching aside. White face aside. Yeah, white face. the white face is the funniest part that's like vintage thug he would totally have done white face back in the day it's just weird how that doesn't seem like it has anything to do with anything else on the project like you'd think that given that cover that there'd at least be like hints well i guess the first song he says the hard are a bunch of times which is very racially charged but yeah i was kind of surprised that there wasn't a little bit more of a through line from the cover to the content that being said like i have listened to it a bunch of times but it's not really something that's drawing a lot of my attention when i'm driving in the car it just kind of fades into the background there are a bunch of songs i like i still have to listen to it and add the songs that i really like to the playlist of my favorite songs of 2025 because you know some albums like the new taylor swift album basically hits from beginning to end from my perspective not a skip on it this one majority skips but there might be like five or six songs that are going to end up on my playlist.

1:37:38I don't think he in a headspace to make music. So he should just kick it instead of keep putting out bunk ass shit. Not for real. And then for one, I think he might be on parole. He might have to get drug tested. A lot of niggas be hard when they do music. So he might not be in, he can't get in that same zone. He can't get all that little sound effect shit. But I thought they said he couldn't talk about violence and shit like that. He definitely was discussing violence. But I think it's more like gangs. Yeah, specific, right? Yeah, he's not supposed to. We can't say YSL. That's stupid, bro. He an artist.

1:38:06That's dumb. He probably got that stipulation took out. That's why I've been calling him neutered young thug this whole time. It might be dumb, but that's what he agreed to. Yeah, it is what he agreed to for a certain 19-year plea deal. Yeah, so he's like a neutered version of himself thematically, and I predicted months ago that this was going to affect his music, and it definitely has. If you look at all of his album covers, him having white face, like you said, he alluded to it a few times. Like when he had a blouse on his album cover, where he only alluded to that in a couple of little bars.

1:38:39It's never like a prominent theme. Just like when he had all the people that made up the one album. You know what I mean? Like you had all the people standing together and there was a wide angle drone shot. That was the, what's the album he put out? Like that in 2019, like his, one of his most. Climb thing whereby on the couch? No, it was a different one. He literally like arranged thousands or hundreds of people to like form like a formation and took like a super wide angle shot. and it was like they all formed like a his face a vision of his face he's not a lot of very creative album covers yeah which when you compare to a lot of rappers their album covers are usually just like a picture of them looking cool his creative direction from the jump has been fire and that's why like to me that's what always stood out that's why i never judged him for like okay like he's dressing weird he has painted nails this or that it never made him less gangster to me so david Russell is in the chat saying that I am insane for thinking that Taylor Swift is better than Young Thug, which for the record, Lifetime, obviously I've listened to far more Young Thug than Taylor Swift.

1:39:43That being said, from my perspective, Taylor Swift put out an album with no skips, a 12 song project. And on the other hand, Young Thug put out a project that, I mean, it sold 50K first week. Taylor Swift sold 4 million first week. I mean, it would seem like the public has kind of decided as well that Taylor Swift made the better album. And also, almost everybody would agree that this isn't the first, second, third, fourth, or even fifth best Thug album of all time. It's a huge disappointment for Thug fans. Really, even most of the real Thug fans think that this album sucks. So, I mean. And sold way less than his last release.

1:40:21I think 79 was the first week sales. Yeah, and granted, Taylor Swift, a lot of people are unhappy with her project as well. But unfortunately for you, David Russell, you don't seem to understand that a person, even a hip-hop commentator, can have objective opinions about music, including both hip-hop and pop music. And let's be real, Justin Bieber had a way harder album than Taylor Swift. Let's go with that as well. Yeah, Justin Bieber put out a way better project than Tho, too. That's a better comparison, though. Taylor Swift. Because they're both dudes. No, Bieber and Taylor Swift are a better comparison.

1:40:52Nah Bieber's I feel like damn near Closer to the hip hop category Like he He a black nigga like you is but If he was black you would not count him as black Who? Bieber? I mean do you count Jaden Smith as black I mean I guess like the color of his skin is black You're not really giving him like a hood pass right No but I'm just But I'm saying he for sure like Fuck with like hip hop super heavy Look at the Pink Panther

1:41:27Salmon is a very masculine color Thank you very much Swag was an incredible album I didn't really spend a lot of time with Swag 2 yet Have you? He brought back Hurricane Chris Hurricane Chris is on Swag 2 Yes, popping my shit Y 'all gotta listen to it I'll be honest Cardi B album hella hard to me Cardi album's good. Cardi B album better. Cardi made a better album than Thug. Granted, she had eight years to do it. She was a feature on his project, which it was decent, but didn't love it. Cardi B not supposed to have a better album than Young Thug's Return. She did it easily. Yeah. Well, like you said, it did take way long, but it's just like a really cohesive body of work.

1:42:10Good music is good music. Exactly, that's what I'm saying. I could judge a project regardless if it's hip-hop or not. I mean, hip-hop is already kind of like back against the wall because it feels like so many people don't want to hear it right now. Like the overall audience for hip-hop. Like there's a lot of different factors. Like when you look at the number of hip-hop songs on the Hot 100, when you look at the number of hip-hop artists that are on Coachella, there's very many signs that suggest to me that the mainstream is kind of losing interest in hip-hop. And I wonder when that's going to change.

1:42:42I feel like a lot of it is kind of like star oriented, you know, like, like, like hip hop kind of lives and dies by the biggest artists in the genre. You're just not going to have like a healthy hip hop industry because you've got like a bunch of sort of like mid, you know, street artists that are selling like 10, 15 K first week. but then meanwhile a 6 '9", people might not like me using him as an example, but the 6 '9 era brought in a shitload of hip-hop fans that probably went out and listened to other hip-hop artists as well. Drake has brought in probably more fans to hip-hop than anybody else in modern history.

1:43:23I feel like hip-hop just needs big stars, and if you look at the age bracket of 20 to 30 right now, it's pretty much Youngboy. There's no other superstars. It leaves a lot to be desired in that regard. And I'll also say this, like hip-hop, first of all, is still the most popular genre of music in the world, regardless of what it is. I don't think that's true anymore. It is, and let me explain why. Because a lot of the things that are getting categorized in other genres actually have so many hip-hop influences on it. Influences doesn't mean that it is that genre. Well, like hip-hop is pop music now.

1:43:56Exactly. At this point, the lines are so far blurred, it's impossible to distinguish. country has fucking 808s been having it for over 10 years that doesn't make country music they got kevin gates on it just because they borrowed a type of drum from hip-hop that doesn't make it they're not just borrowing the same type of drum they're doing collabs like this is why music is the biggest music in the world right of course but like but pop music means popular and a huge part of what defines popular music are actually still people rapping so what people define as quote unquote hip-hop may be different yeah hip-hop is not charting in the same regard as it was in certain ways but there's more hip-hop infused in world music country music pop music every single genre hip-hop still influences the world is the biggest culture no but it's not it's not the biggest uh form of music at this time pop is way bigger right but what i'm saying not true in 2017 you know it's funny i took a music appreciation class in high school you could been a teacher bro i might could have no no for real i do too many drugs to teach in any school for being honest but for sure getting fired for banging some students whoa hip-hop has like kind of lost its commercialism recently it's kind of boring everybody's the same i think that the the the the mainstream for a long time was just like really fascinated by rappers and it feels like a lot of that has kind of worn off and i think you know hip-hop kind of went into this super gangster era and for a while it felt like people were really fascinated by that but then it feels like that kind of wore off at a certain point and all you have to do you don't really have to turn the clock back that far i mean if you rewind the clock 20 years or i mean 20 years hip-hop was still kind of like one of the biggest genres but like 30 years ago you probably wouldn't have really predicted that hip-hop was going to be as huge as it eventually became so there's always going to be ups and downs you know but the thing is also people are fascinated in these stories of these people but that doesn't necessarily translate to them making good music and people are kind of jaded to those stories you know like it's just the the narrative of like i'm a dude from the hood and i sold drugs and i made something out of myself was like very compelling before and it feels like the culture just kind of craves new things and and in addition to that though i think the biggest factor is just the star factor we don't have any stars no young stars besides young boy and no good party music so what you feel about little baby little baby how old he's in that bracket and he is kind of like near the top of the you know list of modern rappers which is kind of an indictment of hip-hop because realistically like i mean how many rap fans are really excited about little baby in 2025 when you compare it to past eras like even we don't even have to go that far back and the amount of excitement that people had about different hip-hop artists compared to right now is i think one of the main reasons is it's a good thing and a bad thing is how big the independent market is and how big just random instagram rappers that we would never like for example this this person might be huge on a no jumper scale like 1900 rugrat we would love like 1900 rugrats music we've been fucking with it he's done a mic drop over here he's big you You feel me?

1:47:07He's not mainstream big. You know what I'm saying? But like there's people like that that are still like have fan bases of 100, 200 ,000 people that people love, particularly regionally. But they don't translate to that, you know, or haven't yet translated. That's part of the problem is that we don't really have that many like nationwide rap stars. But then meanwhile, a Rio the Young OG or Isworth Vezo is like gigantic in Detroit. And if you go to Detroit and you drive around, you're going to hear people banging that shit left and right. Meanwhile, like, if you rewind the clock 20 years ago, those same people in Detroit would have been listening to 50 Cent.

1:47:40Same thing as L.A., same thing as New York. You know, we had real national stars, and there's just very little of that. Like, when you see these young boy tours, and you see him in states that are far, far away from his home state, and he's getting a reaction like the most beloved possible thing, it's just kind of, it's a throwback to a prior era. You don't think social media has, like, contributed to the segmentation of that, though? why we don't have big Nationwide stars. Because I see the same thing with Tyler, the creator. Every time he drops something, he has a huge reception. All of his shows sell out quick online and all of this merch and different collaborations and stuff like that.

1:48:15He has his own festival. I see a lot more rappers trying to follow that business model even. Well, he's smart because his fans grew with him. But as far as young boy, the best thing he did is stay his ass about a fucking jail. And who was supposed to... He ain't even been out there long. But check it out. But check it out. Who was supposed to open up for that tour? EBK J-Bo. And he didn't because why? He wound up getting incarcerated. And EBK J-Bo, in recent memory, in the last couple years, had the most potential to become a nationwide rap star, and instead he got locked up, and he's probably going to go do like five to ten years.

1:48:49For sure from California? From California, for sure. He would have been the guy waving the flag, and his success would have blown up all kinds of other artists, particularly from Northern California, but it probably would have had an effect on L.A. as well. And instead, he's going to waste the most productive years of his life just sitting in a cell most likely. Speaking of jail, do you guys think that Kodak Black would maybe be in the same spot as NBA Youngboy Tour-wise if he had not spent so much of his peak times in jail? I think there's a different reason. I think there's a different reason for Kodak Black.

1:49:19Oh, you think it's more addiction-based? Yeah, he's just like a more like... Because he's dropped so many hits. It's like every summer he's had a hit or every year he's had a hit, but then there's no... He's kind of taking his eye off the ball, you know? He's just not focused like he should be. I personally like Kodak Black better. I love them both. I love Youngboy. I could sing way more Kodak songs than Youngboy songs. Yeah, like Supergirl was huge. Yeah, from a mainstream level, for sure, I feel like a Kodak set is going crazier in the club than a Youngboy set. Yeah, and it's just like, for real, he just like, it's just basically like the addiction and like the little slight pitfalls he had.

1:49:54Because like before, you know, Kodak had that effect, that Youngboy got. He's a young boy. You know, looked up to him, called him big bro. You know, all the stuff. Now, just like, you know, young boy, you know, he took that torch and got that star power. For real. Even took his girl. He said he got my favorite eater. Man, they didn't have our favorite. That's the thing about them. They didn't mess about like with two or three different of the same women. Like, for real, for real. Six Nine had a clip where he said that Mello was, that he fucked her for$100. Oh, my God. I don't believe it. I mean you're asking for a diddy case throwing that accusation out there yes I was gonna say like we definitely don't need to like do the mathematics on that and beyond that six I know what to say to yeah get us talking about it so do you feel like because we're kind of in this weird moment right now where like you know everybody paid attention to six nine in like 2000 uh 2020 like when he got out of jail we paid attention to his first single out to the Nikki song and then And that shit just tapered off real quick.

1:50:52And people really ain't been checking for him for the last couple years. And then somehow the thug thing was like a symbolic moment for him to make his return because he wanted to commentate on the thug thing. And then coincidentally, Vlad got him to do the interview at about the same time. Now, I mean, Steiny from the Nelk Boys has actually done two podcasts in a row with Charleston White and 6ix9ine together. So it kind of feels like 6ix9ine is reemerging as somebody that people are interested in hearing on a media level i just wonder is he going to be able to really like get a large percentage of people to pay attention to him musically because i see a lot of people having the nostalgia about his initial run on twitter and stuff about how it was such a fun era i don't know that he could necessarily get a lot yeah a lot of people because that was let's be real that was kind of like one of the last great hip-hop time periods regardless if you like him or not people were going nuts for gummo it was no first of all i'm not gonna lie i enjoyed six nines music a lot i'm not gonna lie we were already ops and i was still bumping the shit all the time it was just fun not not only like that's not what was that kuda that song was fucking all those songs in retrospect you can't remember what any of them were because the song titles have nothing to do with the actual song kudo wound up being one of the dudes he snitched on and indicted i was like his shooter's name but he did say he and one interview he said that all his song names are basically just random and that Like most of them don't have anything to do with anything else.

1:52:17Yeah. Well, he's like, again, we talk about art direction, creative direction. His shit was super on point. He came in the game looking like a fucking human anime character. And then he brought gang banging into it and commercialized it in a way we hadn't seen. I think people, the reason why people are saying this, first of all, Adam is because it's a fucking meme. It started as like, and also it's like retribution for young thug. Cause young thug was Mr. Snitch K his whole entire career. and he was so critical of 6ix9ine, so vocal about it, that it kind of would be hypocritical to not kind of laugh at least and be like, oh, we miss 6ix9ine now.

1:52:53It's also like the shit that you like when you're in high school or whatever is always going to seem cringe to you at some point within the next couple of years. The way that I felt about Nu Metal where I was listening to so much Korn and Slipknot and Limp Bizkit and shit. And then all of a sudden I'm like 16 and I'm like, holy fuck, the shit that I was listening to when I was 13 was so cringe. and then like now when i look at it i'm like oh that shit was badass like why the fuck did i ever think i was too cool for that and i feel like people are having that moment where it's like oh i i like the 69 shit when i was 16 and now i'm 23 24 and it's like oh maybe i'm not embarrassed of the stuff that i liked when i was in high school because if music at the end of the day if we just remove the context from it like if it sounds good it's gonna sound good at a certain point so much of how we perceive things is based on the image attached to it like and at a certain point everyone was like oh six nines a rat he's a piece of shit and his music sounded different to people and it just that it affects your aura it you could be and but at the same time if you make great music at a certain point once like that memory gets washed away just like hate to say it guys really hate to say it R.

1:54:03Kelly is probably still one of the best R &B singers of all fucking time. One of the best songwriters of all fucking time. One of the best urinators as well. Can't nobody do a verses against R. Kelly and Wynn. No. Dude, for real. That's the cold part about it. Now, once you get all those connotations, at first we ate, people were shy to slap it, but at this point, it don't even matter. I think you would be hard-pressed to find another R &B singer in his age group or his era that he didn't also write for. So that's an unfair version. He was writing for Michael Jackson. Yeah. He's like Babyface, but less creepy.

1:54:39Six and nine are talented enough to get back on the bike. Yeah, he thought the snitch portal opened and he could jump through it. Okay, but he is a big enough star that he can still get people to pay attention to him. That is a little different than making music that people genuinely love. He might as well just start streaming. But if he's going to be like Joe Bud now, then yeah, you could be a retired rapper that does podcast shit now. For sure. I wonder how that's going to go. I think. And like if him and Charleston White, whatever they did, if it did do numbers, it probably was just a controversy of having him and Charleston White together bidding off of each other.

1:55:15Yeah, do people want to hear him consistently get his opinion? The thing is, I don't think nobody, and I could be wrong, this is my opinion, I don't think nobody want to hear 6ix9ine. Every week. He ain't no Joe Budden. Because it's like at the end of the day, all you're going to keep saying, oh yeah, they talked about me. Look at them. Like it's poison judging poison. I'm going to be real. I think 2017, 6ix9ine would have had a better chance at becoming a successful podcaster or streamer or whatever. I challenge anybody. Go watch that Vlad interview, all the clips that have dropped so far. I mean, this guy has done some serious damage to his brain through drugs and alcohol.

1:55:49I'm going to be real with you. He says the sentence, they're going to skip this clip. They're going to skip this clip. He says, these are facts. Vlad, I speak nothing but facts. He says both of those sentences literally like 100 times, like an hour and a half into this first interview. I don't know what it is because he never drank back in the day. He was totally sober during that whole era when I was around him, never saw him drink, never saw him smoke, and now, I don't know, I feel like he's just torched now. He seems like he needs rehab. Don't he do like the balloons and the helium and all that shit too?

1:56:24Not that I know of. Not that I've seen. What happened to his case in the Dominican Republic? That's a good question. That's a good question. but either way so a guy in the mall this is like more recent stuff that he's dealing with so a guy in the mall called him a snitch and then 69 and his boy started to turn up on him and allegedly the guy flashed a gun and then they beat his ass they jumped him which kind of sounds fake to me because i feel like you know if you're talking shit to somebody and then they flash a gun that's usually when you start turning down unless you have a gun but that's the story that i heard from someone about this case that he's in and it's looking like he might actually go back to prison for a couple years so i i guess that that might be part of what this is just what i heard from people is that that might be part of why he seems like he's been drinking very heavily on that vlad interview and i gotta be fake news right because if you pack a nigga out i got a gun you ain't going to jail well i'm regardless you're on crazy federal probation i don't know and also can they prove he had a gun i mean not that i mean i don't know what source reported this story this is what i'm hearing i mean that but that is in the media he was talking and i interview you talking about with him and charleston white he was saying talking about because i think at one point in the interview charleston white brought up or like the interviewer brought up him being robbed like by like some people that's associated with boozy and he was like oh yeah yeah as soon as i see them i'm crashing out like it's up with them whether i go to jail in front of the police or whoever you're talking about 69 yeah no but he was saying that basically like because uh you know there was these mexican dudes or hispanic dudes i don't know what they were but they were They saw him working out in the gym.

1:57:58For some reason, he's got 50 million followers, and he's doing cardio at the 24-hour fitness. I'm a lot less famous than him, and I am not really dying to go to the 24-hour fitness. I'm going to be real with you. But they seen him. They ran up in there. They beat the dog shit out of him bad. It was like the most viral thing at the time. And 6ix9ine said that if he sees them, he's crashing out, and he doesn't care if he goes to jail, which, I mean, they crashed out on this random guy in the mall, and that was enough of a reason for him to get angry. But it's not like Charleston White was in the background like, oh, yeah, that was Boosie.

1:58:28That was Boosie and them people or some shit like that. Yeah, but that's just... Was he really saying that? Hey, Adam, he was in a sauna, bro. Yeah, he was. He was in a sauna. But right before that, he had been on the treadmill. I think he was like in the sauna, like about to clean off after the sauna. But they could have whooped his ass naked. And then the dudes that did it, they was what? They were Latin kings. They were Hispanic. They were Puerto Rico. They were Latin kings. Yeah, they were Hispanic. Oh, Latin kings. Yeah. in Miami or Florida or whatever. Yeah, they're probably. But he's not in Miami.

1:58:59He's two hours outside of Miami, I was told. Like somewhere in Broward or some shit like that. I don't know. Speaking of rapper fights, do any of you guys think that A Boogie was really fighting with Future's group? I've seen text messages that said, no, that's not true. We were corrected within the first hour that it was out. I got hit up saying that that had nothing to do with Future's team and that was A Boogie getting into it with somebody else. At Japlana? Was that in Dubai? No, it was in Japan. Why is everyone in Japan? I guess there was like some festival that just ended. Because like everybody I know, rap and otherwise, are out there.

1:59:31Like the Nelt Boys are out there right now. Well, the dollar is up. Bootleg Kev just got back from there. I don't know. Yeah, Bootleg Kev was with Sexy Red in Tokyo. That was my first. And then I saw like 10 other people in Tokyo. That's what I'm saying. Why is everybody going to Tokyo? A couple of months ago, the exchange rate was super up. So you could go out there and be fake rich for a little while. Oh, wow. I don't know if that was still the situation right now. But yeah. That makes sense. And Japan has an aging population. So they were like paying people to come out there. They had free international, I mean, free flights.

1:59:56That's why that goddamn yoga instructor yesterday was talking about she about to go to Japan. You were in a yoga class? Yeah, man. There you go. Tell us more. Self-care jefe. Tell us more. Self-care jefe is a man. Look, man, I was just in this yoga class. I be going to yoga. I started doing yoga, you know what I'm saying? There you go. I was thinking about getting into some yoga. Sure, you got to, man. I'm a yoga bear. Yoga bear. You're still your picnic basket. Hey, XM1, she used to do hot yoga. So she'd be in there for X amount of time at these degrees, and I guess you're sweating. And you know what I'm saying?

2:00:30Well, you're supposed to lose some weight or something. Yeah, it, like, stretches you. We did rehab. In rehab, we did yoga, and the instructor was super hot. And it's all these dudes that are just, like, getting off drugs and are just horny as hell. For real? Yes, dog. Huh? Oh, getting off drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not getting off drugs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Getting off drugs. You feel me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, I felt bad for her. I was like, damn, I don't think there's a more objectified human being in the world right now than this woman in this class. Y 'all rehab had a lot of things.

2:01:04Those one in the rehabs, you had to have insurance for. This was an insurance rehab for sure. Yeah. A Betty Ford type vibe? No, this one is, well, this last one that I was in was a lot stricter. It wasn't like a plush one. It was like somewhat plush, but it was very strict. Plush one. Yeah, it was. It wasn't a plush one. They call me Lush One How you not gonna do that? How I'm not in rehab without a trust fund So many guns on me I only bust one Took 10 shits I got a flush one Hey, but I've been eating well So I only got a flush once Don't fuck with us, bitch The best rappers ever You ever rap, Tam?

2:01:47No As a career, no but I feel like if I was to get into a cypher or something. If there was a no jumper cypher, you wouldn't be tempted to jump in there? For content, I would. Because I'm not going to fight. That's how I started. Could you have a better verse than Brandon in the no jumper cypher? He didn't even do a full 16. Because he wants his stance to attack me. That's all they do in the comments. Lush pushes this narrative that's him. You bring Brandon up every show. No, she didn't. What's wrong with Brandon? Brandon, actually. Nothing wrong with Brandon. Let's talk about Brandon. We actually have something to discuss for Brandon.

2:02:21We talk about him every episode. Me and Haffey try to stop it. Brandon, stay in the news. A couple of you guys probably not super familiar with Destiny. Destiny is an extremely liberal, progressive, political guy. He streams on YouTube every day. He's got a very big viral audience. And he basically is like the anti-Donald Trump. The anti - He's reverse Osmosis Fuentes. Yeah, yeah. And he's very popular. I've had the pleasure of interviewing him a few times I saw that he was doing a live debate in Los Angeles now keep in mind Charlie Kirk who kind of in some way is kind of like the right wing Destiny was killed so he had multiple different venues cancel on him in the lead up to this debate and I decided to go anyway my wife I had a ticket for Lena she decided she didn't want to go because she thought somebody was going to get their head blown off So I thought to myself, who am I going to bring?

2:03:21I hit up Brandon. I said, Brandon's the perfect person to bring. Trappler Ross also bought a ticket. So I go with Brandon. He shows up wearing a shirt that says Trump was right about everything. And I'm not going to lie, the event as a whole was pretty shit just because everybody went up to debate him. You want to see some fireworks. You want to see the hardcore Trump supporters get up there and argue with him or some shit and instead it's like fanboys it's like you know timid quiet little Asian guy like I want to talk about AI what is the future of AI I'm like oh my god this is so boring but Brandon like as soon as the producers the people there saw him they're like oh shit we want to get this guy up there Brandon's smart Brandon started playing hard to get he goes I'll go up and give me$100 dude whips$100 out of his pocket hands it to him right away boom money for nothing and so Brandon gets up there they have the big old debate I mean Brandon feels pretty strongly that he did well in the debate I will say that it felt like uh the audience was getting some chuckles in at some of the points that he was making and the the overall tone that I saw in the YouTube comments in in Destiny's Reddit was uh very much kind of dismissive of his contribution so But some people seemed like even in our Reddit that they were really enjoying seeing Brandon go up against somebody who does this for a living and is very much a consummate professional like Destiny.

2:04:51So Brandon felt pretty good about it. But as a whole, I'm not sure that the opinions are that positive. To be fair, that's like playing a pickup game with like an NBA star. And like, you feel me? And we did that pod a couple years ago. last time i was you feel me before the exodus um with me you and t-rel and destiny and what's the real trying to talk to those days like one of the funniest things well yeah honestly thank god i was there to offset the stupidity a little bit like but then on top of like on top of that there is uh what was the rushing uh no uh rustland the christian rapper dude one yeah rustland so there's like a dude who believes in god and jesus and then you have an atheist or agnostic i forget how he identifies um um destiny they were debating it's really difficult to get a point off on destiny like he's so well versed in the art of like debating conversation i need his adderall prescription i don't know what the fuck he'd be off but he'd be smoking shit but like he's on vivence i think oh okay i don't even really know what that's like it's like the limitless drug i heard this from the nerd okay really we might need to i mean he talks about it like it was The biggest game changer.

2:05:58No, what is the name he said? Vyvanse. I don't really know that much about it, I'm going to be real. Well, all I know is like Brandon obviously is going to shine in that context compared to the other people because Destiny's Ops weren't buying tickets to that show. That was like you said. That was like supporters of his. Because like the dude who's like who went to debate with Charlie Kirk at the moment that he got killed. I mean, like that's a free event at a college campus. so it's in Utah it's all Republicans and then they all just show up and they are you know mostly happy to just talk to them but like you know there's liberals who go there as well this is people paying $40 for a ticket to go see Destiny and yeah there was Brandon was the only op now I will say this the only person who actually disagreed with Destiny on anything of substance well those tactics that he'd be using they didn't quite hit the same you feel me you can't say like let me talk after just talking for four minutes like because destiny is not somebody who really filibusters he's talented enough as a orator that he can kind of just like hit you with like one or two sentences and really kind of make his point typically and Brandon was still hitting him with the can I speak you didn't let me finish can I speak and he was still hitting him with that a little bit it was pretty funny it's destiny what is he he's a Trump so is he a Trump he's a massive Trump hater yeah yeah if anything I mean like like destiny like is way further left on the spectrum than I think anyone in this room is.

2:07:27You feel me with some of his ideology? He's super... His dick sucked by guys. Yeah, he's fucking bisexual, first of all. That's how lefty is, yeah. I'm trying to hold off right, but I'm like... Can you grab the mic? You said it makes sense. I was trying not to be like, alright, but I'm like, why bro named Destiny? But you just answered my question. It's just like a screen name from like a million years ago, I think. It's nothing too serious. For sure, like an AOL handle. But definitely a stripper name. Yeah, yeah. Either AOL handle or like a stripper at Sam's Opera. It could be Destiny. Either way.

2:08:04Sam's Opera. Well, as long as... Oh, yeah. So overall, I had a good time. I did put out a vlog. It's on the Adam22 channel, so I would appreciate if anybody would go check it out. It nearly hit 20K, which, given how dead my channel is, really felt like a small victory. So shout out to anybody who watches that. I also just put out another vlog where I went to a porn party and hung out with a bunch of hoes. Sorry, Tam. And did that, which one did better? Sorry to me. I just don't want to, I don't want to offend you. You're very important to me. We're sitting on the same couch. I know what you do for your career, Adam.

2:08:35I'm aware of your dog. Are you uncomfortable with that? No. I don't think she would have tried out for no jumper if she was that uncomfortable, right? It's kind of like. You're doing it with your wife, so it's kind of not a sin too much, right? Sometimes I do it without her. Oh, damn. But like, she knows about it. Yeah, she's aware. That's their program, though. Got a gang bang coming up. Is that like hella chicks or hella dudes? Hella dudes, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, Munchie actually is thinking about doing a scene with me as well. He said he was down. Oh, my God. Okay. I want that girl from yesterday.

2:09:07Who yesterday? Oh, that one girl. Yeah, wow. That's a great idea. Oh, I'm not going to lie. It was the girl that the male escort, he had an OnlyFans model with him. No, that was all boy from Snowfall. She came on the camera and did a 360. God, I can't wait for this shit to drop. She did a 360, and then Munchie asked her, what did you call it? The little sculpture. I'm like, yeah, let me do the little 360. He's like, let me do the sculpture. He wanted to go like this and feel the shape of her body just so he could get an idea of what her curves were like. Hey, it's like human braille. You can't really hate.

2:09:38That's so funny. Hey, no, I'll give her a little twirl now. I want to see the one. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. It was some fine shit. So what is your tactic, Munchie? because Ray Charles famously he felt on the wrist. How do you do it? That's something that he's wrote in the script, man. You know how many busted ass bitches to go have a thin wrist or some shit? It wasn't about looks. I guess it was about them being, you know, chubsters. Is that right? Oh, fuck that. Let me see if you got some love. Because that's what I told Munchie. I'm like, it's actually you're kind of in a sick position because if a girl's got a nice body and an ugly face, what the fuck do you care?

2:10:12You can just have a great old time with her. and he's like, no, I can't be outside with an ugly girl. But that's kind of the thing. Hey, how you pick your girls? I can't. You got to ask the honey. I got shot at 2012. My track record been cool with the girls I keep. I ain't talking about the one I just smack and just go home. That's a sign to me. They're going to have to look like some brother. A sign? You got a pre-planned marriage? That's what they do in England? They assign you a wife at birth? It's like India. It's like India. They got arranged marriages. Munchie got the glasses set. yeah no I can't you know what I'm saying honestly I think it's gotta come with a W2 and go to work tag teaming a bitch with a blind homie I would not be tripping at all I feel like that'd be way chiller you feel me like shit why not it's less yeah he's not no eye contact I wanna bang a chick with the mayor but it's like if he fucks up then how awkward is it gonna be nah I ain't gonna let you hang it but you might hey look look Look, because like, like, like, what I learned, like, like, like, uh, with, with threesomes and shit, nigga, you'll leave them bitches by they self fucking because you got to, you know what I'm saying?

2:11:22You got to engage. You got to pay yourself. Like, I kind of mastered that shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? I know how to, uh, quite a few now. But in the beginning, I was quick. And like, they be on their own. And if y 'all read the book, the, uh, the Jed Dragon. The Jed Dragon? No, what's that? it's like a sexual book on sexual teachings and about how to hold your ejaculation. Doing sex and stuff like that. That Kama Sutra type. Just like natural herbs and shit you can take. It's a good book though but it's like a good read but in the book as you read it's like breaking shit down for you and shit and giving you sex.

2:12:04I need help with that man. I got a hair trigger sometimes man. This shit just be going. Hey young ant you ever out right on everything. Just order a rosemary. Drink it. What's a rosemary? They got them at bars. You go be up for a minute off the rosemary. It's alcohol, but you know like you don't even need no rosemary. You get that$20 bottle of Hennessy and you're motherfucking in trouble. I ain't gonna nut. Well, look. Hey, hey, hey. Check GBT that rosemary. I'm telling you, boy. That's like rosemary. That's like some natural shit, though. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, like... But they got an alcohol.

2:12:44Yeah. I'm pretty sure in that book it might talk about things like, yo, Himbe Root and things like that. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that do work. I ain't going to lie. Like, those things... Yeah, it's all type of techniques, all type of shit. Like, it's a hard shit. It's a fire book, though. See that, kids? Don't go straight to the gas station dick pills. It's about your heart. Not when you're young. Not in your 20s and 30s. You gotta get bridos and all that shit. Honey packs, dude. I know young dudes who keep Viagra on them all the time. In case they get some pussy. That's bad once you get hooked. Up them gas station pills you can't drink, bro.

2:13:15You'll wake up with a headache. I feel like you might wake up with a headache a good percentage of the week anyway. Why? Drinking. No, hell no. I don't have hangovers and shit. There has been times on this podcast where I'm going to guess you had a hangover after. No, hell no. I'll wake up and some noodles and a BC powder or an ibuprofen and some noodles. I'm good. That's impressive because I cannot imagine. here's the times you were in here you were fucking gone in a Mexican burrito all the time he had a big ass burrito in his pocket a burrito is like literally the best that's hangover cure 101 fool like they came here with the Mexican burrito I ordered it before I got yours at the door when I walked up it's from somewhere around here the thing that I started doing at the end of my drinking career that I wish I had been able to do the whole drinking career is getting the IV.

2:14:11Oh, yeah. Which they villainized that during the Diddy trial, but you basically, you could pay, I don't know, like$150,$200. They come over, they put the fucking needle in your arm with the tube, and it just injects tons of water and vitamins and saline or some shit into your body. It will destroy your hangover. By the time they're done, 50 % of your hangover It feels like it's gone. And then a couple hours later, you feel like almost 100%. It is the fastest thing for getting over a hangover. Obviously, like 200 bucks, kind of a lot. I got the liquid IVs. You can get the box of them. You know what I'm saying?

2:14:48You can go into a clinic that'll do it for like 30 bucks or something. She'll come to your crib. No, but that's the$200. Yeah, that's the$200. She got the real deal. Yo, that shit. There was days where that saved my life. I like my my chick at the time I caught COVID or whatever and that got her off COVID from taking IB like she was straight within a day or two like because you don't well you don't realize that so much of being sick is that you get super fucking dehydrated and it's just hard to like replenish your fluid so this just does it for you. Basically rich people be doing that shit all the time.

2:15:23Motherfuckers damn near daily like they be out doing coke drinking all night in the office getting an IB and they straight in 20 minutes. That liquid IV, the shit, though. I like that. I had that liquid IV. That shit good. You can order that shit on Amazon. Or go right in the Walgreens and CVS and get them. That's where I get the box from. Yeah, just don't be scared of needles. Liquid IV. Yeah. Not a needle, brother. Let me do a hit the ad real quick. Guys, just one more thing I wanted to tell you guys. Just wanted to give another quick shout out to my people at everything420.com. God, I love those edibles.

2:16:00they've really become a part of my day-to-day and uh everything 420.com just makes smoking way more convenient just download the app and you're all set they got glass vapes edibles wild gift ideas whatever the vibe it's in there everything 420 is the plug or the e420 app in the app store also great uh don't forget to use my code also no jumper one word at checkout now it's time for us to talk about something um i'm not sure how familiar everybody in this room is but my good friend desto dub has a younger brother who i have been around for probably yeah about about a decade uh he's always just been around his name is pimp pimp p he's a smaller guy and he is um troubled let's say he's dealing with some issues throughout his life i'm not sure exactly how to break it down or anything like that.

2:16:59I'm going to go off the assumption that you guys already saw the video of him getting his ass whooped because for sure YouTube would not like that. But Pimpimpi, he's got music videos on the No Jumper channel. People have said that he resembles a stud, which words hurt. They be making fun of him on the Kelly gangbanging forum saying he's a Desto Dub Brister. Yeah, so I did a segment on this earlier. I'm really not familiar with him. I know who he was, but while I was doing the segment, somebody had corrected me and was like it was Desto Double Brother. But my question is, so I got familiar with him supposed to be in special ed or mentally challenged.

2:17:46But did he gang bang? Because I understand, but this right here, this gang activity stuff with these hoods whacked out, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. That's what got him done the way he did. So for the record, there's a video out of him getting the dog shit beat out of him from somebody from... Backstreet. Backstreet. That's their main ops, the front street. That's who's whacked out on his shirt. You feel me? Backstreet is a Cripp hood also? They're a few streets away from each other. Backstreet watch, front street watch. I thought they were supposed to be like at a ceasefire. So his shirt has the B, like the Boston B, as well as like a goose?

2:18:25A swan. A swan, okay, yeah. Yeah, that's Disney Swans. He's dissing. That could be Disney Nickerson's, like, you feel me? No, he ain't dissing Swans. No, no, I'm saying the B, like. But no, that's Disney Backstreet. I mean, the people in that area with who he beefed with that wear that hat is Backstreet's and Broadway. For sure. So anyway. They don't beef with Broadway, Front Street, but they beef with Backstreet. So it's for Backstreet. That's what he dissed in this video. So a clip emerged of Pimp MP basically getting the dog shit beat out of him. And people started kind of putting the pieces of the puzzle together because one of the guy who was beating on him is basically saying, that's what you get for talking that shit, et cetera.

2:19:02And so, uh, this clip apparently is the clip that got him whooped on, or at the very least, this is the kind of thing that got him whooped on. So, so Donnie, let's, let's play this clip, put it on the screen and make sure you hit the sound thing so we can hear it.

2:19:21See the wack house game? You see the wack house game? We not fucking with that. It's my hood day today. I'm crying straight like like what a nigga talking about. This is my birthday today. Again. This is my hood day. You see what's on the shirt? I'm not playing no games. Fuck them niggas. Okay, so If you're putting that energy out For sure you shouldn't be surprised when you get your ass whooped But they know he's See, that ain't the whole video It's another part of him actually dissing them Oh, for real? I didn't even see this part The part I reacted to, he got that same shirt on He's like, it's my hood, damn on Citroen, Avalon F-Wooty-Woot, F-Wooty-Woot, F-Wooty-Woot That's why when the dudes caught him When they ran up to him initially He's like, hey, what's up?

2:20:14What's your name? and fired him like, yeah, F what? What you were saying in that video? Yeah. And he's really well known in that community. He's been outside all the time. So they all, the fools from the other hoods that are technically his community's enemies or whatever, they know who he is. He's viral. Yeah, because he's been viral. Yeah, exactly. On a local level, he's viral. People know about him around LA, for sure. The It's regular video is still hard to me. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. I mean, listen, like, I hate anything that goes against the program that Dub is trying to run, you know.

2:20:52So I hate seeing anything that's going to make him look bad. Not that this makes him look bad, because I think at this point, everybody knows that Dub is doing his own thing and don't necessarily have anything to do with his little brother. But at the same time. Huh? They got different moments for sure. Yeah, something like that. But either way, it's like I feel like at least my experience with PPP is that I kind of had to accept it at a certain point that he's just, he's burnt out and he talks shit on social media because I've always been super cool with him, posted his videos, did all this shit, and then he just randomly would talk shit about me on the internet.

2:21:24Then I would see him on Melrose. He would apologize, act cool with me and everything, and then a week later, he's talking shit again. He's just kind of out there, and he does the same thing to dub, to be totally real. He's gotten on social media and basically put dirt on his brother's name and talked shit about his brother because of the fact, I guess, that his brothers, you know, leveled up and elevated in life. And it's kind of hard to keep every single J-Cat homie around once you start achieving a certain level of success. But, Adam, that's not sugar-coated. And this isn't secret information either.

2:21:55But he's high as fuck and emotional as fuck. See, I didn't know that. And then you kind of put me on to some of the secret information about the fact that he's actually doing a lot of drugs. To me, like, and this is, like, what I was always worried about. and it's like i i feel like you know dub tried to help him and this is not from any like me knowing just from me observing like dub always seemed to try to have him around had him in the cough syrup then all of a sudden i would see pimping outside if he was in some of my videos and shit and he'd be tripping on talking shit about his brother saying random ass shit it'd be like oh you're just like a liability out here that's why your brother's trying to help you you're just refusing to do it i mean that shirt alone is asking for trouble and then i didn't even the going on live earlier in that day and telling where you are and missing people is you're inviting trouble to you can't be outside wearing some shit like that it's inviting trouble but that's kind of like the norm people do that shit all the time bro yeah but i mean the thing is is that you know and it's like if he was a normal person who wasn't dealing with serious mental health issues then i would say that this was kind of disappointing because your brother for sure would give you a job would help you to move into your own place to help to live a better life but i know pimping p i don't think he's really gonna just go get a job and live a normal life i think he's fried he's gone off pills he's doing whatever he's doing he's he's out here dissing people's hoods like like dub dub shouldn't take any fucking grief for that happening to his brother because his brother is doing all the stuff that dub was smart enough to not do dub kept himself out of the politics pimping p at this point where Dub is kind of at the peak of his success.

2:23:35He's out here dissing people's hoods and basically asking for that kind of attention. But Adam, you've been around him. All it takes is you being around him for five minutes to know that regardless of the reason why that kid is impressionable as fuck. Am I the only one thinking funny? He's hilarious. He's super funny. But he's not as funny as he used to be. This shit's not really funny to me. He used to be funny. All that when he was doing pimp cosplay and you feel me? Dial a bill to the end. Just don't snitch on me. That was fire. The original video where he says dollar bill to the end, please don't snitch on me.

2:24:09What is that from? That's from some song? Yeah, that's I don't need these diamonds to see I'm shining. I think that was released on No Jumper actually. Alright, for sure, but I'm going to be real with you. This is how much Dub cares about his little brother is that I remember way back in the day, 2016, when I first was becoming friends with Dub, maybe 2017, but Ian Conner posted a video of Pimp Pimp in the studio damn near crying rapping those lyrics and it was like kind of viral like in a weird way like it was just sort of it was just like who is this crazy kid who's getting super emotional singing this song in the studio I never really understood where it was coming from but either way Dub instead of saying this is like how far ahead he was thinking instead of saying like oh my brother is kind of viral he's having this little moment people pay attention to him or whatever he hit up Ian Conner and asked him to delete the video because he wanted to protect his brother.

2:25:02He knows his brother's not well in the head. He wanted to help try to protect him from the fact that he knew that people were basically laughing at him and trying to clown on him and shit like that. And that's the kind of shit that Dub was doing to try to keep his brother out of the spotlight because I felt like he kind of knew that he wasn't ready for that attention, you know? And that always has been the thing that kind of made me – that's why I never sat down with Pim and P and did a whole interview, a podcast or whatever. I wasn't going to just kind of use him for content or whatever. I think we did do the exposed maybe at one point, and we posted some of his videos.

2:25:31But I never really was going to do the podcast with him and let him crash out and shit like that because I know he actually really means a lot to Doug. And I think it's deeper than that too. I think he's being very protective because think about this. If somebody wanted to get at, at that time, if somebody wanted to get at Doug, it would be very easy to get at his outside super impressionable, slow little brother who's off the Zans. He got himself in that trouble, but it easily, like, if Dub was having problems with people, which luckily throughout his career he basically hasn't, for sure there's a dude in the set who you could just run up on.

2:26:03So my question, like, do we know if he gang-banging or not, or is this a part of him being mentally challenged? No, he from Freshry. Well, but he's mentally challenged. Well, so, like, you're doing both. I'll say he grew up in that hood, you feel me? Like, he know all the, like, my homies from there, like, the MLC shouts to him and shit. So what you're saying, he told you he's not from over there? no no I'm saying he'd fuck with him and shit if anything I ain't never seen him wear a shirt like that before he's doubling down for sure that's Hood Day attire though you don't wear that on a day to day so like you're doing that shit on your birthday the Hood Day the Hood Day is birthday exactly but that was my whole point though that's how impressionable he is that was probably him going outside and the fool's being like hey it's whatever day you feel me tenfold whatever you feel me to put on this shirt and he's like, oh hell yeah, they're turned up.

2:26:57Give him a blunt and he's your best friend. I've been around the kid. I've made sure he got home safe on multiple occasions and he probably barely remembers type shit. Are you talking about Elsie with the studio? He from over there. Yeah, yeah, with the twisties and shit. That's on me. He be rapping and he got songs. Yeah, he fire. That's on me. But anyways, that's the thing. like i've seen him and drugs are a big factor and i think that this kid don't need to be you bro yeah but also i'm mentally that's crazy but no but but like i mean it's just as you guys got fucked up together well i'm actually the funny thing we did get fucked up together but also i also when i was sober and when he was in one of my videos and this fool was over there super zanned out and i made sure he was straight and he was kind of being wild and like i ain't even gonna get into the particulars you feel me but i made sure he was good and got home and as far as like the the gang banging question shit you feel me like um he said some i don't even want to get into it because you know i got too much respect for dubs to even speak on yeah let's not air out the worst shit he ever said i would like to see pimp and p kind of shape up type shit yeah exactly like and he's like i said if if we took drugs out of that kid's life you'd see a different side of him for sure that's not to say he might not have mental issues or this or that but whatever his program is and he be doing that's not helping it seemed like a emotional uh roller coaster for whatever reason probably some little trauma from when he was younger his life is basically an emotional roller coaster as far as i'm concerned yeah because like my whole time i've known him it's just been up and down like at first i was mad like damn why is he talking shit about me there's a clip in the red of him talking shit i see him i realize like oh that was just him tweaking out and he's just and then two weeks later he's just talking shit again i'm like oh okay i guess i just gotta accept this from this fool but that's how easy that's like i said he's impressionable like if he's around you you could turn him up to whatever like level you want basically he might be might be bipolar on paper a little bit it will hopefully get some help because like the type of activity he putting out there on camera that just could have been easily let's just say if that There wasn't some dudes who's with the social media antics as far as catching they op and up low, beating them up.

2:29:16Like, oh, yeah, this him right here, we about to pop him. Because he was walking down the street. That could have just been to easily pull up, you know what I'm saying, pop, pop, pop, pop, you know what I'm saying, and keep going or just hop out, doggy, hop back and going about your business. If they took you a little bit more seriously, then they wouldn't have had the camera and they would have smoked your ass. So in all, as much as that video comes off as, like, very cruel and hard to watch, and seeing him have all the scrapes on his face from his head just fucking hitting the ground is pretty brutal to watch.

2:29:43But I hope, I mean, I highly doubt that this is what's going to happen, but hopefully he can take this as a sign to kind of chill out. And also, man, get to a doctor, because did you notice that when he's laying on the ground after they whoop his ass, I don't know what you call that of what's going on with his leg, but something's going on with his leg. And I swear to God, I've seen this on homeless people over the years where your leg is just getting all weird and thick. Yeah, honestly, I want to take the picture and show it to ChadGBT and see what it says it is. Do you know what staph look like?

2:30:16It looked like a human. He kind of looks like an untreated staph. Start eating your flesh. Start flesh eating. It's going to start eating the flesh. Yo, show that on the screen. It looked like he got it. Bro, it looks like his leg is turning into a wooden leg. Like, he's becoming a mannequin from the knee down. Is that a bandage right there? Yeah, it's a bandage. So that means he probably could have been in the hospital or had some type of infection. Yeah, show it. It looks like an infected-ass wound, bro. Bro, I'm going to ask Chai GPC what this is, and I think that this is the kind of thing that they would probably be able to.

2:30:47And his skin color is changing, so. It looks like Mercer, like staff. Yeah, like that, exactly. But staff come from all them hospitals and stuff. Not really. Well, technically, like, what's referred to as a staph infection is typically from a hospital. Yes. But if it's called, the technical name is called Mercer, you can get it, like when areas is not disinfected, it's dirty, like in them jail showers and some of them, like metal places they live on and shit like that. Yeah, like if there's like an unsanitary surface. Yeah, but. Yeah, Chattapit is confused. They just said that it seems like it's some kind of, well, first off, they think he's wearing a leg brace, which I don't think is true.

2:31:30You included too much other context. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't look like a leg brace at all to me. It do look like, kind of like a peg leg. It looks crazy. Have you been shot before? Yeah. Have you been shot before? I don't believe nothing I know of. But he's a pretty, he's like a smaller, frail dude. That's why people make the jokes calling him a stud and all that shit. He's not like, no, I'm not calling him a bitch or nothing like that. But like, he's doesn't, he's not a bigger dude. And he's not super like managed like that. so like him getting hit he he went down instantly and i've honestly like i said it could have gone a lot worse so i guess that's not it's not that big of bad of a thing but still it was like sad to watch because i actually got love for that dude and i hope he gets better yeah as people saying it's a diabetic thing that's really what i was thinking as well and and there's been times where i like got on the subway in new york and somebody had a leg like that with like a big ass open wound on it and I had to walk out of the subway car and just get into another car because it was so disgusting.

2:32:31And that fucked me up when I saw it because it reminded me of that smell, bro. The infection smell is the worst. A diabetic, it just like, it'll like blow you up. How you looking fluff like the wounds. That's an infection. Like, diabetic don't look like that. I'm leaning towards staff effect. Yeah, that's an effect. Look, look, right on the side, like a bump, look like a sword then he got a bandage like that ain't that ain't that ain't and that fucked up leg look how much thicker his calf is than the other leg his other leg is super skinny and that one's huge i got all staff dorms in uh in the county yo i've had staff many a time i even yeah i i got it a bunch of times when i was doing jujitsu back in the day and then one at one point i did jujitsu and then stayed up all night doing coke and then i got a staff infection inside of my fucking nose, which is probably one of the grossest things.

2:33:24You guys are rolling around getting each other sweat on you? Yeah. That's kind of part of why I stopped doing jiu-jitsu because I had staph infection like three, four times. I was like, well, this is horrible. I don't want to do this anymore. Is that common in jiu-jitsu? Yeah. Some dirty-ass mats. I gave it to another dude who knew it was me because we had been practicing one specific movement together where I think I was kneeing into his arms like this, and then he got it on his arm, and then I had it on my knee, so I couldn't even deny it. It was so obvious that he had got it from me. How do you know he didn't give it to you?

2:34:01That's a good point, yeah. Yeah, I think he just finessed you. I got it from you. I can't believe you, Adam. The whole time, 20 years later, you realize this. I got you all my bad. Yeah. I just take the blame. Fuck this guy. This guy, meanwhile, is way more serious about jiu-jitsu and is so clearly annoyed as fuck that he got this infection from me and I'm like brand new. I've only been doing a couple weeks. I don't know. Sounds like some hazing. Yeah. Well, anyway, Pimp Pimp P. I mean, I'm not going to tell you to drop your flag, but maybe cut it out with the t-shirts. He need to get away from the city.

2:34:37He need to go somewhere slower. Yeah. Yeah. Less influences. Send him to Palmdale? That would be terrible. Shit, that's not going to work? It's too late. You got to grab the mic and kind of turn into your face because it's pointing in a random direction. Sorry. He need to go somewhere really slow. You know what I'm saying? Okay. I wonder where, like, obviously there's way too much going on for him, but like if he was going to do that, it would have to be in a controlled environment still. He just needs, like, people that care about him around him for real. He needs, like, supervision. Yeah, like, for real.

2:35:09Like, because he's clearly not, and I hate to say this, like, he's not capable of making adult decisions. I hope he's okay, like, right now. Do you know how old he is? under 30 I would guess but I mean I guess he probably gonna look like that until he's 40 well you know what's crazy he could look a lot younger than he is I mean like I would guess he like probably 28 Pimp and P yo speaking of people's brothers and Hefe I just got turned on to your brother's music it was pretty good NBA 1 Yeah, NBA 1, who looks very, very similar to you. His music sounds pretty good. Why are you looking at me like that?

2:35:58No, it was just like somebody mentioned it. I looked at it. Or I think I seen somebody in your comments. We played them on the music stream like a few times last time. Yeah, and I seen people saying that too. Yeah, it's just hard. But I have a question for you. Somebody told me that maybe the reason why 4Xtra was not feeling the Cypher idea might be because your brother, Lil' Ann Hefe, or as he might be called in other contexts, was known for putting in work behind the walls and that maybe that might have been a previous fade that took place. Oh, man. He said he got – he said him and 4Xers got out before.

2:36:36He said that. Off the back. Do you know what the result was? I mean, no. I had to let you – I'll bring him next week and let you ask him. Oh, shit. Damn, I really look like a 4Xtra hater. No, yeah, I ain't going to speak on their business. You know, he told me, yeah, he said, yeah, we had that conversation. He said something about that shit like five, six months ago. I don't know how that came up, though, but it was something, you know, 4Xtra was trending, and a little conversation that came up. And I was like, yeah, you know, we was in a dorm here or whatever. Interesting. He mentioned that to me.

2:37:12Interesting. did you notice that uh forex i got a nintendo ds tattoo that's par for the course i would say at this point yeah i get big old ds across the stomach oh it's not oh it's the dark side oh i thought it was a nintendo attack my bad my bad he's just trying to push buttons can we show it let's pull it up man this is like man I'm not gonna I got a lot of tattoos this looks like probably like one of the most painful tattoos I could ever imagine just having walls of black ink in your stomach like that like bro I feel like he's a cut like he has a high tolerance for pain clearly he's dealt with some shit I assume it's dark side 40s because of the name for yeah look at you I used to live in his hood.

2:38:01Oh! Look at this thing. That is a fucking heavy-handed, thick ass. Let's put that audio on. Watch my page. I'm the whole thing of it. Watch the whole podcast. D.S. Berlin Avenue. From the beginning to the end, how this is, is decrypt. Where the body's at? Tell him what time you got, yo. Come here, come here. Dead homies on Berlin Avenue. Zoom in on that. You positive? Is it just me or is he getting fat? I don't remember him having a belly like this. And it's kind of making me think, like, oh, maybe the whole hand situation kind of put a halt to the burpees and whatnot. You know he can't do nothing with that hand for sure.

2:38:47For sure, shit he's eating. Get on the treadmill. And also pay. He would probably make you more, though. Sweat with the hand. You got to clean that motherfucker. You got to do too much right now. His belly, it probably looks so swollen that he looks fatter than he is because that shit makes your belly swell up. It does look swollen up. But like you said, I'm pretty sure he's picking up weight though, shit, eating, because he can't really work out. Whatever happened to Pippa P's leg is happening to his belly. Literally, it's raised up. He just cracked himself up. Y 'all are all, I mean, besides Tam, y 'all are tatted.

2:39:25Have y 'all seen a fucking more heavy-handed tat than that in your life? I don't know how heavy handed it is I just know that I have never gotten a tattoo with that much of a wall of just black ink that that shit must hurt and he don't get fucked up on your stomach too that's a painful I've seen hella gang that's like an insanely thick tat full just like I said just even the shading that's what I'm talking about he got it all done at once too a lot of people would get the outline done maybe fill in half of it how do you guys feel about people that are getting put to sleep now for the tattoos that's stupid is it super expensive i heard yes you're getting anesthesia yes 100 it's expensive i mean he just signed a waiver to do it too i've gotten tattoos that were so painful that the whole time i was just thinking like holy shit i wish i could be put to sleep for this so i feel it but also like the idea of paying money for it super sus and then also yeah as much as i don't care about getting tattooed anymore.

2:40:25It does feel like that is part of the experience is going through the pain. You're just waking up fully tatted in the whole body? It's just not authentic. You're not really... I got a high tolerance for pain, though. That's what I'm saying. So a tattoo is really nothing. Have you really been through something in life? Tattoos used to mean some shit. Now it's part of marketing campaigns and images. Motherfuckers get signed and that same day they'll be put to sleep and wake up with fully blasted when they only have one tat before. That's some lame-ass poser shit. Let me ask you, do you think like being tatted up has gone out of style to a certain extent that is just not what it was and you know think about like 2011 2012 whiz khalifa like having a bunch of tattoos was like your whole personality like i'm not i'm not a killer i'm not a drug dealer i'm just a cool dude who smokes weed and has tattoos that was like an identity literally that was his entire thing to the point when soldier boy made his whiz khalifa slash currency type song circa 2011 the chorus was I just want to smoke weed and buy shoes and then he was talking about getting tatted in the song that's literally what the whole persona was I just want to smoke weed and buy shoes and do what Fly Guys do why do I have that song in my head the best Soulja Boy song after I'm thinking about it though Wilson ain't got a tattoo big like that though G Perico shit I don't think tattoos are out of style I just think it's not associated anymore with being hard like a face tag used to mean like all this nigga he's scary but yo we don't get cool new face tat rappers anymore for a while you had Lil Zan with ZZZ and the dripping from his eye you had Lil Pump with all kinds of shit on his face you had a Zan Frank with the Anne Frank on his face all it was like every week there was just a new crazy face tattoo kid coming out and you don't see that shit anymore like granted like gangster dudes get tattoos and stuff but they don't really trip about getting like super crazy face tattoos like that That used to be the recipe for how you were going to go viral.

2:42:20You got a crazy face tattoo. Everybody pays attention to you for a few weeks. You're off to the races. It's also super weird that people are like, I still don't get going straight to your neck or your face when you ain't got your arms blasted, your body blasted yet. That's super weird. I want to be able to sit down. This is just me. I don't want, I can sit down at a formal dinner. I could have, look, I have no tattoos right now. You feel me? You can't see no tattoos on me. I like that. you have to the more clothes i remove the more tattoos you finna see like i don't know to me that visible tats means something to me like growing up the rules where you do not get tattoos on like you know your neck or your face or your whatever your hands until you get your arms you know or like a significant portion of your chest or you do your throat before you do your face then fast forward to like 2016 i'm around little zay and a little pump all down there just flagrantly breaking the rules left and right and I'm just like okay I'm just gonna hold my tongue and not say anything about this because this is how you guys are living but for sure like that was like one of the most important rules of getting tattoos when I was young.

2:43:28I had to tell my homie the other day fucking Kenny's dumbass I had to tell him he's like I want to he really wants his first tattoo and he's like I was gonna be on my neck I'm like what fool your first test on your neck you're retarded. And the objective is to impress the bitch. Snark too nigga who is you? i'm just trying i'm this older homie trying to put him up on game but you know he might might he might think it looks sexy to the females females might like that's the problem is that that like if you get your neck tattoo right away it's like you're doing it so that it's automatically recognizable you got to do some trill shit like my boy back in high school hey corniest bmx tattoo you can get during the 90s you get the bike chain around your bicep and then the homie would be in school for like three weeks after he got it with a sleeve rolled up so all the girls could see it that shit was so we used to make fun of so bad for it but that that's like you that's why it's like you get your sleeves and you get your chest done and shit before you get the rest of it because that's like you proving that you're doing it for the right reason i realize all these old school rules are totally out the window with the new generation yeah because it's not like hell's angels sailor jerry giving you like a fucking like traditional tat nowadays but regardless like do you remember when fools first started getting collar rockers like the attached right on their above their chest and then everyone's wearing v-necks the hoop necks yes that's this that was the wiz khalifa era too for sure and guess what i was one of those and you know what i had a real thing that i noticed when i was in new hampshire a couple weeks ago is that like when i'm hanging out in like portsmouth new hampshire and shit i'm seeing so many white people with tattoos and it just really stood out to me that i just don't see white people with tattoos at nearly the same rate out here now granted out here the difference is that i'm like around like affluent white people because i'm going to the farmer's market i'm going to the private school shit so those are the type of people that probably aren't going to be heavily tattooed but man in new hampshire them white people love getting some tattoos you were around the hipsters i was around the hipsters because out here shit i don't know too many like the only white people i know that without tattoos are like the squares i went to fucking crossroads with when before i got expelled type shit like like those kids and their parents but like most white people i know out here are blasted and shit like so i think it's totally just like a demographic well adam is around the old money white yeah that's what yeah no but that was one thing i said in the group chat when we were in when i was in new hampshire too is i'm seeing so many like white people wearing like shirts and and like so many people are clearly like into punk and metal and like weird folky type bands and stuff.

2:46:00Like flea foxes. Stomp clap. And I'm just kind of realizing like oh yeah this is like white culture in a place where there is no other culture to really affect it. You know? There's not cool black music, cool Hispanic type music that kind of people tend to get into. It's like no this is white people left to their own devices. Or our fashion. So we're still going to play guitar. Well because the close what's the closest metropolitan city? Boston. And that's already considered for a major metropolitan standards are predominantly white city compared to other big cities of that nature. We stayed in Copley Square in Boston, which is like a very high-end sort of area.

2:46:37And I was like very minimal number of people recognizing me until we then go to the areas where it's a little bit more trusty record stores and smoke shops and all this type of shit. Anyway, I have a topic that I want to hit before we wrap this. Can you click on the link that says Benny the Butcher says hip-hop nerds have taken over hip-hop? this is a take that i would like to hear uh thoughts on what state the game everybody got their headphones or can you guys hear it the butcher coming the butcher is coming let's fire this up you can hear it ant yeah okay hey yo y 'all see what state the game is in when the streets when the streets don't hold the culture of the game now that the weird twitter nerds and in the nerves and all of these weird motherfuckers got you know i mean they got the hands on the culture the street the voice of the streets don't mean as much as it did when we was coming up it was a lot of cons to that as well you know i'm saying i gotta say that but you see what happened when the streets you know i mean don't control the game no more it's a lot of fuck nigga shit going on man and a lot of people's okay with it because they're fuck niggas man hey yo y 'all see what's the not baby's just trying to show off his amazing pyrex chain what the fuck i wasn't thinking about the pyrex chain i was thinking about the sideburns i seen a viral quote to me just being like i ain't listening to nobody with sideburns okay so nobody has sideburns like that in modern american history right got the chop mutton chops those are mutton chops and i i fuck with baby the butcher but i just don't know where that came from like who who inspired him to do such a thing so he said that he had got the sideburns uh like and then like he was like you know what people were making fun of it but he's like damn like no one else has this this is gonna be my little look to distinguish myself and he said he did it on purpose even even though people were like clowning him for it.

2:48:23He's like, this is going to be my shit. It's very Gangs in New York. Yeah, exactly. I had sideburns kind of like that when I was in high school and shit just because I didn't know what was going on. Slash, that was kind of normal at the time. The fact that he's still rocking it is kind of crazy. But, I mean, okay, a big part of why this clip has been viral on Twitter and stuff is because people are basically quote-tweeting it and taking it as an opportunity to tell Benny the Butcher that actually his fan base are the nerds. Which, if you're familiar with Griselda, if you're familiar with like who seems like they listen to their music or who probably goes to their shows i think you would have to agree with that they are like street dudes from upstate new york but their content seems like it kind of appeals to the nerdier side of hip-hop that being said i think that like one of the other most like prevailing uh thoughts on this is that like in some very meaningful ways the streets are dead the streets are irrelevant and probably will continue to get more and more irrelevant going forward and they definitely clearly don't dictate hip hop in the way that they used to there's a new consumer that runs hip hop and I think that's probably what he means by nerd it's like young suburban kids that don't really know nothing about the street I swear to god he hey bro basically anybody can make a YouTube channel and have a voice and they putting their bunk ass opinions on shit versus back then the streets set the standard for some certain shit to go on and go into music and shit versus a take that Flacco got her some shit about some stupid shit.

2:49:59Yeah, exactly. And I feel like you can't really control who buys music because it'll surprise you when you go to some of these shows, just like going to some of the homie shows, like Brother With Saz Show, G Perico Show. I'm like, damn, this they fan base? G Perico Show, 80 % Mexican. You know what I'm saying? That's a generous thing. You're more like 90. So almost nobody is making music for people like them. Quite often, if you're going to be a popular rapper, you're going to appeal for people outside of your demographic. Yeah, so that versus, I think what Benny the Butcher is getting at, I think he getting at like all, you know what I'm saying, the F-ish that's going on in rap right now, like with these artists and every day they coming out talking about somebody else snitching.

2:50:45All this person's an informant. All this person did that. we in her audio so i really think he taking a shot at them like man yeah you they may mess in the state of the culture of you i was listening to these dudes i was rocking with these dudes i thought they was authentic now y 'all seeing what's going on and now with like this openness of information it's like people are just able to have more of an objective opinion on what's going on in the streets like there's there's so many people who get into the streets and then they smoke somebody when they're 18 and then they got to go do 30 years and it's like they realize at some point during that 30 years like oh this shit is stupid as fuck like why the fuck did i waste my whole life killing somebody for this game they don't give a fuck about me but then in comparison like when you see somebody like pooh sheisty crash out within the first year of becoming successful what do you see you see choruses of people online clowning him and pointing out the error of his ways now that doesn't mean that like the streets are completely dead or anything but there's more transparency of information for people to understand how negative the consequences that come from this are plus it's not a mystery to most people that the vast vast majority of gangsters tell once they get locked up like that's open for people to see well you know who didn't tell the guy who um you just said his entire audience was predominantly nerds benny the butcher uh black griselda family or i'm sorry black soprano family was under federal investigation you feel me yeah but they never got a rico or anything they they were they were like literally under serious investigation he was like he faced mad charges stood tall never snitched stood by the code makes real street music and is a great lyricist bro and his fans are not just nerds they're people that appreciate art you feel me like it just so happens that's like it's all different types of people but it's funny that the person with the quote-unquote nerd rap following kept it more real than all these supposed like respected gangsters but i think that's the point is that a lot of these people you know to use megan the stallion cosplay gangsters you know acting type shit they're coming out with this persona because it's easy to get fans with a face tat and a fucked up story but then when it comes down to it and you get in the courtroom or you get in the investigation room you tell and it messes up that whole lore now all of the people that gravitated for you because of that is like well this nigga's weak like what's the point of all this the weird part about it though too is just the fact that like hip-hop is so regional and when i was in new york doing those vlogs in the Bronx and everything like that.

2:53:10Like, I really was hearing cars drive by playing Griselda, which in LA would never happen. Almost never happen. Less likely for sure. Not to say that they don't have anybody listening to them on Spotify or whatever, but for sure Griselda is not the sound of the streets out here. We don't have ambiance for that. Right, but on the East Coast, I mean, like, shit, you hear that BPM slow the fuck down as soon as your plane lands. It's just not the same sound and like one thing that always kind of tripped me out about griselda is the way that people will revere them as real hip-hop and then shit on a young boy or a pooh shiesty for being like somehow indicative of like you know hip-hop being like permanently and irreversibly damaged the lyrical content the themes the topics being discussed are almost exactly the same yes it's really the aesthetic choices that make old hip-hop heads appreciate them they're rapping to alchemist style beats and they're obviously putting words together in a in a different way arguably a much more artful way but i mean the topics are essentially the same it's just like griselda has the kind of fan base that they have because they're able to put the pieces of the puzzle together in a way that appeals to people that are a little bit outside of hip-hop center i think the main difference between that generation rap and like a young boy is these are drug dealers and these are drug users so it comes off different so older people like a lot people like that shit that jay-z big papa i'm popping it i got a yacht off the money and i'm living like pusha t has been eating off that for years to be in the biggest king to be fair like i would say something like push i see yeah he's rapping about doing drugs but he's also rapping about selling drugs but then it's more like you know killing your ops i feel like you know benny might talk about shooting somebody but it's probably going to be in the context of like a drug deal gone bad he's not like aggressively murdering his opposition and his lyrics quite the same way and they're interjecting the the different references of the wrestlers and they've embraced wrestling culture they talk about stuff that is a little bit more funky but for the most part you know thematically it's pretty similar that's also because west side gun is like a straight like masterful creator and is able to like are they still united yeah they kind of they didn't like fall out i feel like at one point it kind of looked like they were gonna well you know they're cousins you feel me like yeah they're like so they're but is griselda as a whole still a strong entity or is is there some separation there i felt like that that seemed like it was happening at one point well griselda to me the biggest the most confusion i have about griselda is we know that who the core members are but then a lot of other people got brought onto the label and that project's released and it's like who are the members because boldy james is a multiple griselda projects uh you know he's the Stove Guys all over, West Side Guns albums.

2:55:57It's difficult to distinguish for me. Because when that amazing Five Mike album, What Was Sheen Gun Do, came out in 2020 and was one of the best albums of the fucking year, you feel me? That right there, we knew that's Gunn, Conway, and fucking Benny, you feel me? And Derringer on the beats. Do you think in general that kind of rap is just not popular anymore? Because J Electronica dropped a whole bunch of shit and nobody talked about it. I mean, when you look at Ben and the Butcher's views on YouTube, at least, which is only one way to judge something. But I looked at it after I watched this clip and his music does very well.

2:56:33Like many videos with millions of views, which I have kind of pledged to stop judging people on their YouTube views because I know so many people are faking it. But it does feel like his fan base is pretty legit. Like his stuff still does good. And you know what else it is? International. These folks can tour Europe, Asia, all these different regions, Africa. could they could go to different places that really appreciate them and make way more money because the type of deals they have then a lot of these rappers that you see with the you've i guarantee you benny's bust downs that's all real shit you feel me i guarantee you his jewelry's real moist night on it ain't no noisy like these fools is actually benny's sitting on almost two million monthly listeners his top song has a hundred million plays here we go it's pretty impressive and the here's what made griselda to me cool because everybody thought that underground rap was some dusty ass shit that only fucking nerds were fucking with and just fools that dress like me nah these fools are designered out they got fucking bust downs you feel me they got hella chains they look like the they have the same attire but like actually in a more fashionable like mature way than a lot of the younger rappers have but they're like still they still have that I mean, it's like they're like regular rappers from the late 90s.

2:57:50But they've just been like dropped into the 2020s, and it just hits way different. But like stylistically, musically, et cetera, it's kind of hard to find that many differences between like a Lox album, except for the fact that the Lox were like trying to make radio records a large percentage of the time. They're like Mobb Deep. Yeah, exactly. Benny and them have the privilege of just making whatever kind of music they want because they got a cult fan base that's going to hoover it up. And at a certain point, Benny was not only Roc Nation, but they were signed to Shady Records. So they had not only Eminem, but Jay-Z behind you.

2:58:24That's an underrated part of why we're also familiar with him. Mainstream hip-hop paid more attention during that era, even if now he's not associated with that. Was it Jimmy Kimmel or Jimmy Fallon? They performed at the fucking... They were on major... Either one of those or SNL. They were performing it They were on Ye's album They were on fucking Ye's album They were on Donda They were amongst And they still have that influence But regardless I get why A lot of people think that That style is antiquated But at this point really I think it's not as much about region As it is about just like preference Because look We were talking about the weird kids in other regions And the artistic kids LA's artistic quote unquote weird kids you know what they did?

2:59:14We made fucking Odd Future. We made Doja Cat. We made like things that are still super relevant like our quote unquote weird kids are actually just artistic as fuck. These other regions are just worse than us. That's what it comes down to. We're more artistic. We're more fashionable. We set more trends. But the weird rappers from New York is not like Benny the Butcher. It's David. Well David's He's from New York. Yeah exactly. Y 'all can say that. But I'm just saying, like, I wouldn't put Benny the Butcher into, like, the weird rap category. If anything, they're just, well, A, they're from upstate New York, which is a totally different fucking world.

2:59:49For sure. Where maybe they wouldn't have became what they became if they were in the fishbowl that is New York City, where it's very, very hard to go against the grain. Because every time you step out the door of your house, you got people wanting to call you weird. And I feel like maybe they had a little bit more freedom to become who they were. Well, New York City lost their sonic identity. like when Swizz Beatz came out they lost it to drill so so so when y 'all say weird rap what y 'all talking about backpack rap yes what people quote unquote define as weird rap but there's a big difference between like even Odd Future seems so much more hip hop than by the time we get to like weird spaced out auto tune type rappers that still kind of fall under the umbrella of hip hop do Pusha and Malice fall into the same category as Benny the Bush yes yes but 20 years earlier they're just more successful but you know all the New York artists they biggest artists don't even go to New York sound.

3:00:38Like all the songs. Yes! I like the fun songs with Mace. It don't have no New York beats. Nicki. Those are no New York beats. Fabulous. All the little love and hip hop type for the females. Well the hottest shit in New York right now is like the Cashco Band. 50C. 50C came out with a West Coast sound. So like they biggest artists got like the New York sound. But they would say boom bap and like that traditional hip hop is East Coast. A Boogie with the hoodie. well check this out since we're talking some hip-hop shit Munchy B and Baby Runner you feel me have been popping it right now we did do this last week but no we didn't but the whole thing about it is just that Runner agreed to it and now we gotta find a beat that you can both agree to so this is what I was about to say so we already discussed on the news yesterday that it wouldn't be fair if DJ Flip made a beat if he's putting up 10 G's on Baby Runner.

3:01:37You feel me? Why when they're both rapping on the same beat? Well, because it kind of just changes the dynamic. Like, if one of the producers... He's going to make a beat to cater to his boy, bro. Did you hear what he was saying? But you have to agree to the beat as well. But that's... Well, so... I have a suggestion. My suggestion would be that each of them do a joint over their... Two joints over their own producer's beat. So him, Baby Runner, and Flip do two songs. You feel me? I'm adamantly opposed to this they gotta rap on the same beat or else it becomes a preference thing on what beat you like more well check this out so the third beat would be a mutual beat you feel me and then they rap over the same beat I don't wanna listen to six fucking songs that's way too much for the average person to consume we gotta do one song two verses that's it because the thing is this the argument was who can make a better song so how is it fair I don't give a fuck about that this is rap that.

3:02:33What do you think, Munchy? What you mean? I thought this was a rap battle, not a fucking sing-song fest. No, I ain't murder mook, though. What you mean? I don't even know how they stomach that shit. Battle rappers, they be all close to this shit. That's a different conversation. We're talking about, do you see this as a competition for who can do the better verse, or the rap better, or who can make a better song? Because I feel like that's way more objective. I just want to hear 32 bars from each person. What did you mean when you said, I'll fuck baby runner over? Because that's what sparked this whole thing.

3:03:09What did you mean when you said that? You definitely didn't mean songwriting. You meant rapping. Both. I mean, he's storytelling, but I ain't heard nothing outside of that, though. Okay, so, and to me, that's where, like, so we could totally do it that way. I'm cool with whatever. I love battle rap and competition. But if we're going to be objective, if we do, if there's a few rounds, One of it is who can make a better song, and one of it's who's better on the beat. That makes sense. You feel me? And I think we're already making absolutely no progress on making the one song happen. So I've been like, let's focus on one song, one beat, get them to both rap on it.

3:03:48If there's still some clarity that needs to be added, which I feel like we're going to really have an answer by the time that they each do a verse, then maybe we can follow up on that with more. but I feel like why overcomplicate it? Hey, my boy Rance, he said he got five. He's putting five up. Everybody that want to gamble, I'm a gambler. That's what I'm saying. They're talking about. My boy DJ Flip said he got 10. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. That's crazy. I wish I had 10 grand. So that's why there needs to be like a – that's why there needs to be a fair judges. Like there's judges I'd like to suggest.

3:04:20For example, Geechee Gotti I feel like would be a good judge. Matt Poppa would be a good judge. Trappler Ross would be a good judge. It has to be non-biased parties. that understand lyricism and not only fucking battle rap but songs. I think we also gotta let the chat have a strong vote. So four judges and the chat be the fifth or three and the chat could account for 40 plus percent. Like a poll? Yeah. And then that could regardless Do you see it as problematic if you rap over a beat that DJ at Flip makes? Do you think that there's something inherently unfair about him making a beat given that he's both rooting for Runner and has produced for him in the past?

3:05:07Yeah, I don't think it's my bad. If you got a recording process with this particular dude, you know what he, you know what I'm saying? You making like some beats and it's going to be more so like, you know, you go on YouTube, so-and-so type beats. He knows exactly what this dude's trying to, you know what I'm saying? It's more for his sound. But it's not like he's just going to make a beat and then you automatically have to rap on the beat. I'm saying like, if he sends a beat pack of 10 beats, you guys are just going to have to decide on one of them, which I realize might be kind of weird since you don't really know each other like that.

3:05:36Hey, like you said, I ain't trying to make it more difficult. You know how people be like, call him out for the fade. You don't want to brand it up? Because they don't want to fight it. They'll be like, I want$30 million to do it. I mean, whatever, I ain't going to make it too difficult. Now, Munchie, if you do fuck Runner over on a flip beat, If you have a harder verse than Runner on a Flip beat, that is extra points for you. You feel me? That's an away game no matter what. You ain't got to do so much pumping up this way, brother. No, I'm just saying, brother. How many beats does Flip actually produce for Runner?

3:06:08That's his main producer. Is he? That's his producer. How much music has he put out in the last few years? For Runner? How many songs they made together? I can't tell you. I know that most of the times I've seen Runner flip there, too. They beat together a lot. That's his artist. They hit me up. I mean, yeah, that's his artist. You work with him directly. They have the viral song that you was talking about that we was all talking about on this pod last week with the whole hats thing. And that's what I think was the confusion. We didn't talk about the... Our discussion on the pod last week is what sparked the battle.

3:06:45Runner didn't say nothing until Munchy said, I'll fuck Runner over, you feel me? And then Runner responded a few days ago. And that's why I did the collab post What blood wanna do Yeah, he said, what blood wanna do Nah, what blood wanna do See, now that's what got me What blood wanna do, no, what cuz wanna do That's what he said This is Runner on Spotify With 15 ,000 monthly listeners No You got a song called Loked Out Oh, it might be A &R But you know, Big Runner used to mess with Thug Life and Tupac and all that Is that when it Oh, there's a Big Runner Yeah, so I don't know that I don't know what Baby Runner's Spotify page is.

3:07:26I don't know if he got 15K would be pretty impressive for him, to me, to be honest. I got less than that currently. I'm hyped for him just because I feel like this is a good opportunity for him. Did he got 15K or 1 ,500? 15K. Yeah. I mean, for an artist that doesn't have, you know, because Munchie's whole thing is like people don't be slapping Runner, throw a Runner song on. and my thing is like runner really is a great lyricist and you really be spitting so it's like can you out rap him for real so i kind of want to see you know i'm saying both y 'all say you're not you're willing to not fucking cross boundaries and make it some gang shit fools are willing to do a face off and get it pumped up which could be additional cool content i'm gonna not bet on it because i think that it'll be easier for me to be objective if i don't bet on it yeah i don't i don't want to have a dog in the fight aside from the obvious fact that munchie doing good would be better for no jumper i guess no we're for the eyes of the public we're obviously biased to munchie because that's you feel me like he's on the pod with us so we can't nobody over here could be a judge but also fuck munchie long live the ruler well i mean there's a and that's just that's something that he that that's a negative thing that he has to deal with anytime he drops something fool's gonna be in his comments fool's gonna be saying that ruler in the comments i mean Of course, and Long Live the Ruler for sure Maybe they just need to measure something Awesome, as far as Battle Rap?

3:08:56No, like a ruler Stupid Can we pull up the Donations on the main tab So we can still see the other tab? Nah, nah, nah, not that one Honestly, I think this is like A good thing, and it's cool for the city Too, like this is like, to me This is really big for the city, dude Like, this is big, dude We need just anything to make people pay attention to LA is good. And on some rap shit and like gangs that typically don't have the best rapport to be able to do some shit and like it could be on some hip hop shit where everybody can profit and get some shine from it. To me, that's lit. I'm gonna let y 'all know this too.

3:09:34Typically in battles of this nature, both parties get compensated. So I think both of them should get a little something off top and then whoever win the battle, you feel me? That's just the way I look at it. That's another combo. I said that then. Cash for participation. The question is who is going to pay this money and where is this money going to come from? Listen, I'm happy to divvy up the YouTube money or anything like that, but I'm not really trying to take an L on paying for it. Who's going to sponsor it? Anybody that want they fucking brand mentioned. Red Bull Music. Well, that's like a very lofty ambition, but guess what?

3:10:11I was able to get a Red Bull sponsorship. I got 55 bands out of Red Bull. I got fucking 150 out of Monster and this is me your MacArthur Park local crackhead you feel me I'm pretty sure that through No Jumper we can get fucking a couple bands for each of the homies we ain't gotta pay, they'll pay whatever, I'm saying too much find the sponsors for me because if we could make that happen yeah, holler at Lush let me set up this battle rap community where the fuck y 'all bitch asses at this pod brought to you by Lush's homemade ketamine ketamine ketamine what the fuck was that yo I seen this fat black guy on TikTok who does like he does AI remixes of songs where he'll take like a famous corn song and turn it into like a smooth like soul song that's a thing yo I like corn way better when it's performed by like Barry White have you not heard the EBK J-Bo Motown style song that they'll take no that's amazing yeah it's incredible dude they have patty labelle doing lotto songs i really enjoy it yeah so what's the name for this what is it like yeah ai see you hear that though right there like we're all just like super amused by ai and like yeah man they've been disrespecting lately with this tupac yeah i'm just glad the spongebob is over i hate it why did uncle phody even post it like you like I mean, that shit, I was like, damn, Uncle Fody.

3:11:44With Tupac and the Biggie and the Michael Jackson. Yeah, what's up with you? He posted Pac courtside at a Warriors game. You feel me? AI, like right now. Oh, that was cool. But I'm just like with all the dead people and all that merging. No, no, this is not really something that happened. He posted an AI of Pac courtside. No, but it's like the positivity. He's like, oh, yeah, I can see Pac in the Bay at the Golden State Warrior game. I could see that. That would have happened. But still, it's kind of like someone of E-40s Dastor, I was shocked to see that. I saw AI videos of XXXTentacion Lil Peep and Juice WRLD hanging out in a corner store.

3:12:26But it was weird because the Juice and the X ones look pretty good and then the Lil Peep just looked like some random white kid. So that was kind of confusing. Where do we draw the line where it's invasive as fuck? I mean, I'm so past Stephen Horan about that. It's like, this is just where the world's going. We're not going to be able to stop it. It is what it is, you know? Talk Skynet. I'm about to bust down some of these donos real quick. If you want to get your message heard, send in five bucks with the donation and we will read your message. Shout out to all of our new members. We got Kenan Johnson, Marion Smith, Gussie, Colin Urrit, and then shout out to Drea the Virgo, who I believe was a Flacco op at one point and now I guess they pieced it up and she became a member of the whack pack shout out to drea asad aziz said adam on his hormone replacement therapy is a good start for his trans arc can you scroll up so i can read this what's what's the whack pack keep it tucked and tooted 22 i'll see you in valhalla brother or sister so basically like the the whack content like is a premium tier on no jumper so you have pay five bucks a month you get all the interviews early and you get uh your name highlighted in chat with the basketball and there's all this shit but then if you pay 10 bucks a month you get the whack pod early and the bonus extra whack pods which we have been slacking a little bit on providing but uh we're gonna do some extra shit this week so that's coming um vmx 1803 has is become a member which i thought he was a member before but apparently he rejoined shout Shout out to him for that.

3:14:02Mina's reaction, Cloud Mania TV said, my ex-husband wants to see Gaia Love from Jocelyn's Cabaret, Las Vegas, on Plug Talk. I don't know who that is. That sounds like it could be something. Is it a dude or something? I feel like you're trying to clown me a little bit. Oh, no. Jocelyn, I don't think Jocelyn will have anybody trans on the cabaret. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. They're all girls. Yeah, I don't know about that. I have no idea. I don't know what Jocelyn's Cabaret is, for the record. You don't know who Jocelyn Hernandez is? Nah. Oh, Stevie J. Lil' Gert? Nah. Who's that? I thought you knew about black culture, Adam.

3:14:38You know what I really, a part of black culture that I have literally zero interest in is grown as black women reality TV. I've tried it a couple times. That's when I'm like, okay, I like some black stuff. I don't like this. That's good material to me. But in the same way, like, when I'm around in baddie zone, I'm like, man, I do not got time to watch this shit. No, I'm not going to do that. Yeah, I even, I signed up for Azusa at one point to check out baddies because I wanted to see what it was like. Or somebody I had to interview, and yeah, I don't, I don't get that really at all. I like it.

3:15:13I don't get that really at all. He's like a straight white man. It's just, nobody needs to hear me elaborate on why I don't give a fuck about it, but I don't, I don't get it. There's no storyline. It's just not for me. It's like, wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't even need to get in. I've discussed how stupid I think it is before. Well, you already synopsized Taylor Swift's album. That's essentially described why you don't like it. Well, Taylor's kind of on her baddie arc with this whole Charlie XCX beef and everything, which, by the way, there's something else I don't know that I don't like. That Charlie XCX album that everybody freaked out about, Brat.

3:15:45She's hard. I made it three songs in. This is the biggest load of dog shit I ever heard in my life. I know you guys probably don't know what I'm talking about, but this is garbage. I gotta listen to it again maybe it's because you're in your wholesome white era and you're not in your club yeah but she's using auto tune it's like okay I've seen this before I know about Netspan I don't need you rapping with auto tune she's been doing that since Fancy she's been flipping that style yeah that's the chick Fancy one of her songs at some point the only reason Iggy Azalea is relevant is because of her hook on that song Charli XCX is on that song yes that's her I had no idea yes that's where she became popular I found out about Charli XCX when she had a feature on the Lil Xan album, I believe.

3:16:27Yeah, well, she was already super high. You need to be more tapped in with the white girl. Yeah, we were Taylor all the way either way. Man, don't even get me started on how she ethered Charlie on that. Charlie ain't got nothing for her. What's she going to say? She got nothing. She's got to come back hard. She's got to come with some Pusha T energy. She's got to expose some shit. Or call her a pedophile. That worked for Kendrick. She has those allegations. Taylor was dating a 17-year-old when she was 22. In what state? How do you know? In what state? In what state? How do you know that? Who was 17 that she was dating?

3:17:01Google it. She had a young white man on her arm. She could have been abusing him. Shout out to that guy. Lucky dude. Did Taylor Swift ever date? You feel me? I ain't mad at you player. An underage boy. Adam don't play about Taylor Swift. You're clearing it up right now. I feel like Adam knows that if he goes hard on. How do you besmirch her name? I feel like something Len has drawn a really strong line in the sand about is a Taylor Swift. There's no Taylor Slanger allowed. Here is what I have found, and you're right. If I come home and say, hey, babe, I got the best news. Taylor Swift's a pedophile.

3:17:39Just go outside, smoke a spliff, leave me alone. That's actually how that would go. She doesn't want to hear negative shit. If it's a viral tweet, I can send it to her and be like, isn't this crazy? But I can't be like, look at this thing that I agree with. no it's bad like honestly i made my life so much easier by being a taylor swift fan but but i said to her she she said she's kind of like are you just faking liking the album to make me happy and i was like no and i'm gonna tell you why i can prove that because there's no way in hell if you were a scissor super fan that i could fake liking that shit that's just better than hers scissor's way harder than taylor swift no i'd rather listen to scissor any day than taylor let's tell her not even what to me is like not even music it's what she's just whispering on beats it sounds i i i i hate it do you listen to an icon all of my heart not familiar with that artist i cannot listen to it i've i've heard a couple sizzle songs that i like but they're like poppy like that's what she did real anthem songs like no you make bangers i've listened to a lot says it's just whispering her whole nothing to it dude she made songs about it like cheat on your bitch with me that was like the her whole first hit like okay i don't care what she's singing about because i hate the way it sounds off rip it's just totally unlistenable to me to me it appeals to my aesthetic and sensibilities i'll say yeah because you dick read everything in black culture we know well i mean i just i like what i like you feel me i think black people are getting along with black people tell me tell me some an opinion or a preference that you have that goes against the majority black opinion.

3:19:18Just give me one. It should be easy. It's very easy, bro. I don't fucking use loofahs. You feel me? I just use bars of soap to my skin. They do that in private. Nobody cares about that. I used a loofah for like a year and then I stopped and everything was the same. There you go. There's a lot of... My loofah era was way after my staff era. There's a lot of things that are not typical of black culture that i like as far as like uh metal music and okay you like white shit too yeah i like white shit too that a lot of black people probably something that you don't like like a beloved black art like i just said i don't like scissor that puts me like with like mainstream black culture there's a lot of food like shit like some black shit you really don't like you don't like scissor you don't like macaroni and cheese or something.

3:20:09Welcome back to the podcast. I love making cheese. I just said I hated her music like a million times. She called me a culture vulture, but also. Okay, so y 'all got a little black. I gotta be honest. I stopped watching as much hoop as I used to. Okay, you don't care about basketball. I still like it. It's cool. I'll go to the game. The fact that that's the best thing you can come up with is pretty crazy. Hey, it's what I do is trying to think hard over there. You really love the black. I like basketball less than I did before. There's black artists that are beloved that I might not be huge fans of, but I don't know.

3:20:45I just can't think of one. You don't like the Isley Brothers? You grew up in a black culture. I love the Isley Brothers. I'm trying to help you. What am I not supposed to like? It's your preference. It's not what you're not supposed to like. It's what you actually don't like. I like it. I don't want to say I like it all. This is your homework. I've never done podcast homework before, but this is it. uh okay um it's gonna make me look so bad it does no nobody gives a fuck Eastside Trey said shout out to Tam Kerger looks scrumdily scrumdily he spelled it so crazy but shout out to V Chaser um I am not oh no V Chaser I'm not gonna read your message here because you will not talk down on the set Big Poppo said this cast flows way better without fake phone keep him on the news no need for him here has to ban opinion okay well that's an opinion we don't don't necessarily have to agree with that but um little trap star said uh or little trap star welcome to know general members appreciate you mr john doe said that sorry n-word flip should have been off he was never a good fit god damn all right well that's that's a preference that's an opinion kitty kitty said west coast music is poop munchie b is the best rapper out there for sure philly and you're a best rapper skriller right now you feel me shots of philly shut up six seven six choosy un choose choosing choosing one welcome to becoming a member most official said if taylor swift wasn't white she wouldn't sell nearly as much stop comparing her black artist adam only reason she's in the combo with beyonce no also she's like 10 times more popular than beyonce and i i feel like if taylor was black that she would probably be way more popular.

3:22:34There would be such a wider audience for her. Black people really would have loved that Tim McGraw ode that she did that made her popular back in the day. Okay, I mean, for sure she grew up in white culture and everything she's ever done has been basically because of her whiteness. We're trying to hate on Taylor. If Taylor was a quarter black, she would be more popular. She would appeal to a bigger artist. I would like her more instantly. If she gave a little bit more Zendaya. Yeah, fire. Has Zendaya ever made music? Yes, she has, unfortunately. Was it when she was a little kid, though? Teen. Because she started off as a YouTuber, right?

3:23:10I've seen a video one time. Yeah. You got a song, Replay? Yeah, she was YouTube before Disney. I think around the same time. Probably, yeah, same time. Yeah. That was a Zendaya. She's fire. Did I say Daya or Daya? Daya? I would say, yeah, Daya. Do you watch Euphoria seasons one and two? I have. Okay. We got something in common. Tam Burger. Ayo Munchie Kitty said Ayo Munchie pieced that shit up with Wag despite all the shit he said bro. It was only content. Oh my god. Please don't send us off on this tangent. It's all content. Bully Breaker said Adam said that T-Swift had the biggest album of all time and then proceeded to list how she released it 20 different ways man.

3:23:49She finessed the system. MJ on top. Listen I mean. She's done it several times too. Yeah but we give credit to Travis Scott's album sales when he was playing the bundle game. She's just playing the game that there is for her to play. We respect the shooter around here. I got to be honest. Four million units. You got to suck a dick, homie. I'm sorry. The other thing, too, is I still feel like she would have the best-selling first week, even if she had not done the vinyl. Her audience is... Yes, of course. Think about it. She fills... On Saturday, she got me and my family to go to a packed movie theater to basically watch lyric videos for her album.

3:24:26We all paid to do this. I'm sorry, Drake, as big as Drake is. Nobody's... Nobody's going to the fucking AMC to watch certified lover boy and lyric videos. I enjoyed it more because it was satisfying to my wife and child, but yeah, it was cool. Was it better than Circus Maximus? What is that? You didn't see that, Travis Scott? He also released a movie in AMC before you told me. Not much of a Travis Scott fan myself. Okay, maybe this is another take that goes against, I'm not a huge Travis Scott fan. There you go, yeah. I do love the Astroworld album, though. I cannot say that. it's lit it's lit birds and the trump sing brian mcknight was an amazing tape but i no longer like him astroworld for me was definitely like one of many pivotal moments for me where i realized that i was losing interest in mainstream hip-hop because that is a very very famous album and i do not give a fuck about it there's so many like chopped and screwed throwback tracks that have straight h-town vibe he really like californication you don't like californication i don't even like the red hot chili pepper song californication damn adam him you're not a real white man no yeah he's not they are one of the gayest bands ever um mr bacon man said uh and sent ten dollars by the way said adam's suggestion read super chats somewhat throughout the pod this will in turn allow some of us to send more as rebuttals to your response that is a good point but also i mean usually a good pod for us we just kind of get going and interrupting to read out donations i mean you treat it like the movie credits you just read at the end, huh?

3:25:56Yeah, I mean, I feel like reading it throughout is a little That makes sense what that person just said. It's a little distracting. Yeah, let's just have fun. Tom Cruise Mom Shoes said, Munchie B's favorite Taylor Swift song is Bad Blood.

3:26:12No, you could say that when you battle runner. You could say like, I don't fuck with Taylor's, I fuck with Taylor Swift, but I could never be a Bad Blood. Ooh. Damn. Damn. Damn that, yeah. Right? Even though you don't get it because you probably never heard that song. No, no, no, no. That was a bar. I'm not going to lie. I get it, but I can't use it now. They got fed to me by the check. Yeah. Well, I'm mad that he's not using my bar that I've suggested seven times by now. Yeah. He'll be all right with us. He'll be all right. I think it would have changed the nine-in. Oh, also, he said, oh, never forget Lush is a known NK sympathizer.

3:26:46Ant, how can you fall asleep next to him knowing that? Yeah, it's true. We should definitely, for sure, keep it. That's a very solid point. We need a deep dive into Lush's NK history. I encourage it. Yeah? I encourage it. I encourage the deepest dive. NK is something that you might sometimes see Hispanic gang members tag up or rep on their social media. I would never say something like, that is cool. What the fuck I look like. That shit sounds stupid as hell. I'm against killing really anyone for their race. So I'm sure that's out. Do a deep ass fire. Bring all that out. Bring in whatever you got out.

3:27:27Kitty also said, Adam, are you going to speak about them cheeks that R &B was bouncing around? Wax said, bet, so bet, please. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to be real. Wax posted a video of him and R &B catching a workout, and if his intent was to convince us that she does not have a BBL, then this was a poorly chosen video because that shit was kicking. I love it. I think it looks great. I'm going to be real. We got to do a scar check. because anybody who's real familiar with BBLs knows that there's scars. I'm not going to weigh in on this because Wack already threatened me for my statements about R &B in the past.

3:28:02So I'm just going to leave this one alone. Never in my life have I felt like Wack was being less respectful of my intelligence than when he acts like that's not augmented. For a woman in her 40s, I mean, come the fuck on, Wack. R &B is a beautiful way to say. She's beautiful. And she's an example of someone. So you trying to tell me you ain't seen nobody? I don't know her business or what she got going on, but you trying to tell me you ain't seen nobody in their 40s with a body like hers? That's absolutely what I'm saying, yes. No, there's no way. The roundness that she's rocking is some other shit.

3:28:39I'm just being real. I don't know where you be. For me, as a plastic surgery expert to some extent, I ain't going. Now, if he wants to bet money, that's great. We can bet money. I'll bet money on that. I'm not much of a betting man. But I'll take free money. I said you would be a plastic expert I've fucked many hundreds of girls with fake asses I know how they sit, I know what they look like Where do the best fake boobs come from? I don't know, I don't pay attention to the surgery angle I fucked the old fake asses in the nose Oh yeah, I love them It's the best plastic surgery Yes Fake titties are up there too, but I mean BBL is an amazing invention Shouts to everyone, all the women getting their body done Do what they want to do with it, you feel me?

3:29:19Be independent And our natural queens Queens. Yeah, I assume. I assume. I don't know. I'm waiting until I get old to get plastic surgery so I could be fine in the casket. A little milk and all that. Man, we got some old ones too. That body look like a BBL. That ain't a BBL. My girl, she ain't got no BBL yet. You feel me? I feel like if you make it to like 40 and then you get the plastic surgery, like you get some fake boobs or something, you're going to. Lush, when your father passes away, is there a BBL in the future? Definitely. Definitely. For sure. Dad, stick around. I think he will find solace in knowing that.

3:29:54You should tell him that. He will probably pay for it now still. Really? If he got to see it, maybe. You got to let him take a ride, though. What? I don't know. You know, I'm not going to lie. He got to test out his investment. I found some. Dude, homies. I found some Viagra in my dad's room. What? I found some Viagra. Hey, man, you said your dad got to test out his room. And I said, I found some Viagra in my dad's room. He probably takes that just to beat off. so I don't know what they'd be doing but they in the 80s I found he got a prescription not only Viagra, multiple different ones so yeah, Joppa Pops turning up wait a minute, Sev said did y 'all slide for Black Dave getting slept in Harlem Flacco will be back soon so run them no jumper gym streams because it's a hot lush era and rest in peace New York drill, wait a minute for those who don't know, Black Dave is a dude that we all know from Harlem uptown Manhattan, etc who skateboarder he has a thrasher my war which is pretty insane that he has one of those because not many people do but they're saying he got slept who's who slept black dave i need to see the video a lot of people getting whooped this week huh a while ago oh was it a while ago well he got kicked out of korea damn near for harassing random people but i don't think i saw him get slept or i saw him get slept and i'm so burnt out that i forgot i don't know um it's okay is Is there a chance that Flacco is going to come back not hot?

3:31:21Well, I feel like he might not be gone long enough for him to truly get hot, but he's going to at least get hotter. But is hotter Flacco, what's that really? We need to see hot Flacco for it to really be. Listen, I'm so unbelievably ready for the hot Flacco era. I thought you were ready. All right, so I guess don't show this on the camera, but hit the X so we can hear it. Okay, where? Let's walk away, man. Where? 155th. Polo, bro. What? Polo. Come on, bro. What you reaching for, bro? No, you reaching for some shit, huh? Come on, bro.

3:32:02All right. Oh, come on, bro. Oh, damn. You okay, bro? All right, bro. It's sold, bro. I got tooted in booty. Wait, how long ago was that posted? Oh, it was over a year ago? God, how the fuck? I probably did know about it and just forgot about it, but damn, they knocked my boy out. That's this dude, Black Dave. Remember I was saying that the first Ice Spice piece of content was on No Jumper? Yeah. He went to her neighborhood and did a whole video with her and everything. I didn't know that existed, though. Damn. Damn. Poor guy. What is that? He's damn. If it could happen to Pimpin P, it could happen to anybody.

3:32:42At the end of the day. If it could happen to Pimpin P. I mean, happens to the best of us. Got packed out during the manicure. Hell no. Look, Pim Pim Pee is playing games. He brought it on his cell. But Dave is out here live streaming. I mean, we don't really know, but he's saying what hoodie he's from and shit. I got knocked out by Almighty Suspect. It happens to the best of us. You went to bed or you got dropped? While his dad filmed. I saw stars. I don't even lie. That seemed like a fake fall. Like he was like, let's just get this shit over. That was just a man down to give up. You know what?

3:33:18Let's get this shit over with you. It's because that was round three. That was round three. That was round three. I was done after round two. Hey, Lush, niggas be doing that. They be keep falling so the fight could be over. Lush took his own back fade. They played it. For sure. He had to get back for the other guy who just got knocked out that he didn't remember at that moment. No, because after the second time, I was like, all right, we good? He's like, no, I'm a habitual fade, Junker, right? And I was like, all right, fool. He was really mad. That was after the second one, and then that's what y 'all seen.

3:33:47So what the first two rounds go like if the third one went. They ain't go much different. I ain't going to say they went, like, significantly different. You feel me? Like, I got knocked on my ass three times. I'm not going to lie. I've heard people basically say that, like, Krip Mag be fighting like that. Just, like, throwing. He'll, like, he won't turn down a fade, but he'll kind of, like, get knocked down and then he sort of, like, be acting like he's more hurt than he is. Like, he's just kind of doesn't maybe have his whole heart in it at a certain point. Let me explain all that. I'm not saying that's true.

3:34:17No, but people said that. And I'm sure. But he went on record because Braze was one of the ones that was like, he was in the dorm with him and he was like, man, he was in there yelling and shit, all like that. Like when people was getting on him, ah, okay, okay. And Crip Mac came out and was like, shit, so what? But I caught my faves. I caught all my faves though. So he admitted to it, but he said he caught all his faves. No, actually, he lied at first and then Brick Baby backed his line knowing it was a lie because he was right there. Which then Brick later revealed. My thing is this though. I thought that fools are supposed to respect whether you win or lose as long as you fight.

3:34:57You fight. I used to say that when I was young. As long as you get out, you gotta win more than you lose, bro. Apparently, no, you're not wrong. No, but that's okay. In MMA as well, do you remember when Jose Ken Seiko had an MMA fight? Yep. He tapped the strikes and it's ugly. Ain't nobody giving you no respect for doing that. But that's also like... But he's like... First of all, old ass, unroided. This is Jose Canseco circa 92 Bash Brothers era. Roided up. He's probably going to not tap out that quick. If Jose Canseco and Pimp P could get knocked out, then it could happen to anybody. And Black Day.

3:35:33Hey, I'm Jose Canseco mixed with EBK J-Bo. That's all I got to say. I'll leave you with a halo. People got to stop playing these games and my sandwich needs some mayo hey hey and they go play because he got me tomorrow she's a myth it's just somebody breathe on him check it happen that other big eye little et creature dude he just got caught slipping i think y 'all had him up here who

3:35:59the dude we was talking about in the chats remember i was telling you like he'd be dissing people hoods and they called him slipping he got whooped on i don't know his name he's talking about big big green eye little ugly little creature look at dude oh that little fool that was on community yeah exactly yeah i don't even know anything about that guy and i i had never seen him before until i seen that that shit looked fake to me though they like yelling at him he's like it's hard to tell nowadays sometimes i don't know i guess who who would fake that or like because he'd be trolling and dissing people who is doing like the same shit kind of like a jcat thing we gotta tell these jcats to stop banging hoods but I guess at that point that would probably really fuck up the gang ecosystem but it's like the dudes in they hood and it's like y 'all letting them down that's my whole thing like I'm not even like if I'm ever around like my homies and they playing with somebody that got like special needs I'm gonna check the shit out of them bro don't have no special needs on camera dissing ops and acting like he from the set like what's funny about that shit bro we all got a slow homie or some jcat homies but I ain't trying to exploit them I mean, somebody called me about that Pimp Pimp video freaking out, like somebody who doesn't know anything about street shit, and I had to tell them, I'm like, one thing I've learned in the whole gang thing is that you might be ops with a 15-year-old kid.

3:37:19You might be ops with a handicapped person. Like, when you enter the gangbanging thing, there's no saying that you're going to get the most high-quality ops. That's a pretty fucking... Inferior ops. Very few people go to Harvard or become NFL superstars and then enter the gang world and are catching fades on the block. You're usually fighting and beefing with people that are just kind of regular old people off the block. You're going to get a little bit of everything. Handicaps on the block. Some handicapped people can fight. They got extra strength. Honestly, there's like... He's a different kind.

3:37:51I ain't seen a lot of handicapped. Like every now and then, there might have been one or two growing up. There ain't a lot of handicapped people in the neighborhood. But you're like old or something. like young handicaps. Yeah, once you reach a certain age, though, and people start getting into accidents and this or that or get shot or this or that. A lot of ways to become more retarded, yeah. For sure, the retards from my high school were not the types that were going to join gangs.

3:38:17They would have been a retarded fight. You don't know that, though, because if gangs were around, they might have been down. Exactly, for the camaraderie. They had gangs out there in New Hampshire, man. You got to get it set off. No jumper. No jumper. They have motorcycle gangs out there. For sure. There's some. Not where I grew up, but for sure in New Hampshire as a whole. Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember. HA cracking off out there. Honestly, though, where my mom is from, Laconia, that's like the spot where they would have all those crazy motorcycle meetups and shit. So I'll see that once in a while out there.

3:38:48All right. I'll keep doing this. What chapter are you from, brother? All right. Q Nahanas sent 10 bucks and says, shout out to Lush and Munchie. love to see n words beat the system and get the bag crazy i i noticed i wasn't in that shout out to you though crazy i heard about munchie all the way in new york from a chick named taryn real n words salute keep this cast and add sus you know a taryn yeah i know two two tarns i don't you know two you're you're past work one more time was that your past work No. That's neat. Take a Terran or two down? You ever take a first class flight to Boston with him?

3:39:25What about a Terran dactyl? Oh, he crazy. A dinosaur. DJ DJ said, Lush. I didn't know a Terran dactyl. They said a Terran dactyl is a dinosaur. Lush, are you worried about getting caught up in the whole Rich Trapper versus everybody drama? I'm going to be real with you. We are way above talking about Rich Trapper on this podcast. We have to do less beefing with bums. That's the only thing that separates us from those other guys, the zesty ones, the cripples. They're the ones who beef with nobodies all day and think that it's going to get them some views. We've got to elevate. We've got to talk about good service.

3:40:01We've got to find new guests to interview. We are not focused on the past. Agree. Bully Breaker said, speaking of Sneeko, how do y 'all feel about Adam saying he doesn't believe that the government dropped gun crates and drugs in the hood back in the day? You're tripping. I was definitely dead. The pressure is on you to find any sort of evidence of the government dropping literal crates of guns and drugs. I can understand the argument that the CIA funded groups who ended up essentially sending coke. But you're saying that the government dropped off crates of guns and drugs in the hood. I would love to even hear from one person who has a memory.

3:40:37Sure. First of all, read a book called Dark Pyramid by Gary Webb. Second of all, not only in Los Angeles, in Richmond, California, in the late 90s, there was a train, a military train mysteriously got robbed. And a surplus of automatic weapons that are military-grade that were available for nowhere in the streets. You can't even buy them from other states. All of a sudden, overpopulating the Bay Area. I know all of y 'all from the gate who know what the fuck I'm talking about. So you think the government had to be involved in order for some people to steal a bunch of guns off of a train? So you think the military is negligent enough to allow something like that to happen while it's simultaneously happening in other disenfranchised black communities throughout the country and brown communities?

3:41:20What evidence do you have that is not true? Well, the burden of proof is on the accuser, for the record. Well, the accuser. The fair white horse. You guys are telling me to read a lot of books, but nobody's giving me any sort of evidence that this ever happened. I'm pointing. I'm not even going to ask Chad GBT because I already know what they're going to say. You say no, your co-hosts are fucking fried. I already asked you. I already asked you. Spoiler. There is no evidence of this. Now, you could say that the CIA had these groups that were involved. They were funding groups that were trafficking cocaine and a lot of it may have ended up.

3:41:54Not just that, but they had a specific agenda for funding an overseas war in Iran. Okay, but again, this person donated and says, I'm crazy because I don't believe that the government dropped off crates of guns and drugs in the hood back in the day. I mean, they was dealing with Freeway Rick Ross. You don't think that shit. I've had conversations with Freeway Rick Ross and never has he said that they were dropping off crates of guns and drugs in the hood. Have y 'all discussed this? What you mean? I feel like he probably would have mentioned that. In this case, he was dealing with the CIA. A lot of the drugs that he had out here, he brought this shit to the West Coast and he was dealing with the CIA.

3:42:30That's what he was dealing with. He should have mentioned that in the interview. What's the entire show Snowfall about, dude? What is the entire... Okay, so now you're telling me to watch a TV show. You've given me multiple books and a TV show that I have to watch, but no actual proof or any... Like, shouldn't someone have seen this take place? Well, I mean, I just think you've heard of the Iran-Contra. I think you've heard about, like, the Ronald Reagan administration. In what way did that involve them dropping off crates of guns and drugs on the hood? That's how Rick got off. They was giving him drugs.

3:42:59If he's plugged, if the CIA is literally doing... And he had to tell on the CIA, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, okay, y 'all trying to put me in jail and enslave me to this shit, but what about y 'all CIA dealing with? I just looked up Freeway Ricky the closest thing to what you guys are describing is like a clip that says Freeway Ricky's plug was a CIA operative? I mean yes question mark, question mark, question mark Do you not count the CIA as the government like an arm of the government though? No yeah It's a central intelligence agency Okay but again we're getting very far away from the accusation that this person put so again it's on you guys to find me evidence of crates of guns and drugs being dropped off in the hood by the CEO.

3:43:38Adam Fan picks or it didn't happen. I'm just saying, give me something. I can't wait to talk about it. You told me to read a book, a couple books and a TV show. That's going to take me a few weeks. All of it is like conspiracy theories. I mean, we could just get conspiracy theories. I'd much rather have somebody that grew up in that time. You know what I'm saying? We can't get a CIA man for you to interview? I mean, so. They'll tell you heroin was imported by the government and to the black communities because of the Black Panthers, because of the uprising of them. Not just heroin. I would love to see some evidence of that as well.

3:44:17You never saw American gangsters? I'm just the kind of person where if somebody makes a claim that seems kind of outlandish, then I expect them to come with evidence or anything, really. Keep in mind, I'm not even using chat GPT yet. I haven't even looked to it. There's a name of a specific operation that the government had to take down the Panthers. There was a specific operation, and it was mainly based on changing their public perception and causing dissemination within their ranks. What does that have to do with this claim about the gun crates? He wants explicit proof or nothing. Yeah, I feel like, you know, let's focus on this.

3:44:52This is one simple accusation that I don't feel like there's any proof for. I've gone out of my way to look for evidence. I think they're going off, they said back in the day, So a lot of shit that I've known that has been said, like with people dealing with CIA and police officers back in the day, that might be what they're alluding to. I mean, like, yeah, for sure. I don't know why so far-fetched. We know that the government, they've always been criminals. How do you think the Kennedys got? Thank you. Thank you. Cointel Pro. Sure. Oh, there it go. Thank you. Thank you. Cointel Pro was them dropping off crates of guns and drugs.

3:45:25Literally, yes. It was them causing dissension among the ranks of the Black Panthers. Yes. they also killed young Fred in his bed with his pregnant wife he was giving them guns for the wars I am not in any way close minded to the idea that these things could have happened I just would need evidence or some kind of testimonial to believe it do you believe that the popularization of gangster rap was a somewhat of a deliberate thing that was going to cause certain negative effects in the black community do you think that that was deliberately done I understand that you probably feel like that is what it feels like happened but no No, I think that they were mostly driven by the, the record labels were driven by the incentives of capitalism.

3:46:05Okay. And bearing in mind that whatever the repercussions are, if there are certain ones that are negative to the community, but they are beneficial to the labels on a financial level, it might even be more advantageous, right? I would suggest that like right now, there's nothing stopping artists from coming out and promoting positive themes. And the next arrested development seems like, you know, there's never been a time where it would be easier for that sort of music to become popular and yet that almost never happens but you know why because when we fucking interview them on major platforms they get way less views than the artists that are fucking talking about that are barely artists are actually just fucking gang members and because the people are really not that interested correct that and that's the primary so right there you don't need a conspiracy no that's just that's just how it is the long-term effects this is the long-term effects of the popularization and the dump of a certain genre and the dumb is crazy i don't that's just the preferences of the people but but what's crazy and there are tons of examples that are examples that go in the other direction most popular rapper in the world right now and there's absolutely enough there's nothing within the music industry that tried to thwart him in any way if anything everybody bent over backwards to promote him well and the exact kind of music that the industry wanted to promote the same way the entire industry rallied behind this clips album rollout but Because there always has to be, if you look historically, no matter what, there's going to be one mainstream artist that they allow or a few that they allow to get through.

3:47:33But they allow and not that the fans actually just embrace that music. For sure. I mean, for sure. And look, of the quote-unquote big three, two of them make very, very conscious music and the majority of Drake's music is relatively conscious as well. But there's all kinds of other examples too. Tyler, the creator is one of the biggest artists. Somebody like Travis Scott is not talking about gangbangers or promoting anything crazy like that. So yeah, obviously there is nothing stopping artists from promoting pro-social content in their music. Except for the fact that the fans in large part seem to...

3:48:05It's easy for me to understand why NWA became much, much bigger than Public Enemy. Not only was the music better, but the average fucking dork-ass white fan probably wanted to hear more about gaming and the revolution. It doesn't take a music industry conspiracy to make that the case. At the time, first of all, Public Enemy was way more popular than N.W.A. at first. Like, when N.W.A. dropped straight out of Compton, it takes a nation of millions to hold its backs, but Public Enemy was smacking them on the charts. They could barely even get distribution nationally for fucking, for Ruthless Records at that point.

3:48:37It was the whole way that music culture changed. Black Power Music was popular at that time. Black Sheep, A Tribe Called Quest, that was mainstream acts. These are, like you said, Arrested Development. This is the prevailing content in rap music. Why do you think that changed? Well, that's great. More competition from gangster-ass music. Right, exactly. And why did that become prioritized? And why did that become the only thing at a certain point? Because it sold better and the people reacted to it. No, at first it didn't. And we just even acknowledge that to this day. Because the revolution fizzled out.

3:49:11And it thugged, you know what I'm saying? Think about how much was in the way of gangster music becoming popular. It was like damn near banned in the United States. that cops go into NWA shows and shutting them down left and right. There was the advent of the parental advisory label on records and young kids can't go into a store and buy a public enemy record and they can't go into the store and buy a NWA record. That just made it sexier. The parental advisory, now we knew what album was going to be hot. Oh shit, 2 Live Crew, they're banned from stores? It's almost like you're saying that the people were more intrigued by content that was offensive and edgy.

3:49:47And it doesn't involve a record industry conspiracy. I mean, yeah, that's what I think was just really was going on. Just like public enemy, you know, they ushered in a time period and the NWA came in and ushered in a time period of what kids, you know what I'm saying, they age and poverty was going through, you know, like with F the police and all those. That's a way stronger message. People wasn't like at that time in a nation, people wasn't trying to hold on to revolution and black power. people you know what i'm saying was so used to poverty and the shit was going on and you know i'm saying the violence and then with crack and all that shit so well crack is actually a very good point that that really changes the overall texture of urban environments and one america as a whole and and that started right here and that all goes back to that same era we're talking about we're talking about the 80s we're talking this is when the quote unquote is more like guns and drugs being dropped off in the hood is a way overly simplified term of what happened but it is it is the accusation that i was accused of being crazy for not believing so i am sure that next week once you've had time to sit down with chad gbt you are going to provide me evidence of these crates of guns and drugs and any other evidence that you bring to the table will essentially be you admitting that you were wrong about that specific claim okay munchie we don't see well again the burden of proof is on the accuser dj munchie have you ever talked on the podcast about who how you and young jefe met first met and was there any tension no it wasn't no no tension i told a story on my youtube channel and he did too okay i have not seen that that sounds interesting okay so people go search those out um tap ent says so much fun was the name of the thug album lush yeah that was the 2019 release where there's like the the face the green yeah yeah the the the long vertical um drone shot that had a bunch of people in it amazing album for sure great great album donnie blitz said on zaddy gang brandon his money adam he's more knowledgeable than all these one trick ponies in that room right now kuh shout out to you donnie uh q said my dad did a song with the Beach Boys it was a hit they did movies also but those things caused them to fall off going commercial was seen as a sellout move back then what song did he do with the Beach Boys I love the Beach Boys I grew up on the Beach Boys yeah literally Brian Wilson is one of my idols please elaborate on that also involved in the Manson murders I gotta watch the Brian Wilson documentary I've been meaning to watch that for a while I heard it's so good yeah it's definitely worth a good it's a solid watch and yeah the Beach Boys shit they revolutionized psychedelic music as far as mainstream pop went back in the day so hell yeah yeah i grew up listening to the beach boys more than anybody out there could probably understand there was really like a point in my life where i don't i just thought that there were just there always were the beach boys and there was there's a beach so there's gonna be boys at the beach and surfing you as yeah it's like i had to get much more older before i realized like oh this is a real band like it's not just like any old dude hanging out at the beach that should hit different out here i grew up like less than a mile from the beach and barbara and that's my first thing I ever remember.

3:52:53I was two years old. My kid thinks that song's about her. Parker. And I sing over it so she can't tell that they're not saying Parker. Such a fire song. Berto said, Anhefay looks like a Neapolitan ice cream sandwich. Okay. Cute. I didn't. Yo, that's pretty. These naughty shouts be having drugs and if you don't know what you look like, they're gonna tell you. Yeah, but look at his exact outfit with the pink, the white, and then the. It is funny, but I kind of hope that berto's a girl saying some shit like that because that's a little bit like pause worthy of a statement um young loose said hey lush you name dropped the band suffocation the other day who else you'd be jamming i've been listening to static x lately it's that shots to static x i definitely i have not thought about static x since the 90s for sure yeah i first of all shots to suffocation they're a good band too but i shouted out suffocate that's a different band you feel me like deathcore if you know about it bay area real dark metal shit you feel me but yeah I be in all kinds of shit Come on fool Oh man I want to listen to Static X One nothing's wrong with me Two that's that song right I got some bangers I want to listen to that shit right now but I can't Cause we're on stream You know that's That song was on the radio Non stop when I was in high school It wasn't cause I was even on the radio It was because when I was locked up They would play that It was this one Indian police named G-Mo.

3:54:21That's what he used to wake us up to in boot camp, like at 4 or 3 in the morning. If somebody fought or did some bullshit that he didn't like or he wasn't on board, he'd get a call at home, and they'd bullshit in the camp. He'd come in 1 in the morning. One, nothing's wrong with me. You like, what the fuck? That is a crucial, forgotten new metal song, man. For sure. Especially with the popularization of new metal, I feel like they might be able to get some decent touring revenue going right now. They were probably still touring, and they probably never stopped. They had another one. Let the bodies hit the floor.

3:54:51No, that's Drowning Band. Yeah. And Offset basically sampled that and remixed it, and that's the most popular song in a long time. Yeah, so they had both of them songs. You had another dude just come in there and play that one. Let the bodies hit the floor. There's been several rap remixes of Let the Bodies Hit the Floor over the years. Shit. I welcome them. Oh, yeah, isn't there a 3-6 version or something? Yeah, and there's Killer Kyle Leone with Bun B. He has a fucking amazing. well he does it's really just him flipping the hook but yeah anyway there's a lot of them uh adam uh big dumps said adam glazer of chart toppers tlr what does that mean he's like swifty shit i mean but besides her who else not we're like debating bieber and taylor swift we were kind of like chart glazing i mean that's kind of like the sad state of affairs is that like a lot of the best albums of this year are not hip-hop albums even for us as expressed hip-hop fans there's actually some sad truth to that statement but also i mean listen if you like hip-hop and r &b well okay if you like r &b that justin b realm is fire like you know that to me i don't understand how like that album sounds way more like the kind of r &b that i fuck with than fucking scissor i don't see why scissor is catching so many shots today i'm just saying like i know her shit is considered r &b is like very very popular i hate it but i listen to Justin Bieber I'm like oh this is an R &B I like she called him a culture vulture bro that has nothing to do I had already shit on her by the time she said that well guess what like anyone that says some dumbass shit like that just doesn't know what's up but you can totally call me a culture vulture that's a fine opinion she still got slapped to me keep going down on that list Ben Herover sent$10 and said, Ben watching the pod since phone and redacted.

3:56:36I remember when Adam said he wasn't sure if the show would work, and look at y 'all now. Best NJ cast in a long time, and as always, love from Lakewood, California. Home of the first Denny's. Five, six, two. Love Lakewood Mall. Shout out, and home of the legendary GBO Gaston. Actually, I appreciate that. That's a very nice comment. And yes, there's been times where we thought this podcast might disintegrate, but I feel like we're doing pretty good right now. Philip Diamini said, It's so manufactured when rappers get a bunch of tattoo shop tats. You need some hood kitchen tats to be more authentic.

3:57:12But then again, man, sometimes if you're looking at people's tattoos. Yeah, I got some tats I wish I could take back. Yeah. Yeah. I got some amazingly embarrassing tats. I feel like white guy with jail tattoos is not the same as black guy with jail tattoos because you could just see our shit a little better. Well, yeah, and also some of the meanings kind of don't look as good in society. But I'm just saying, like, you know, a shitty tattoo on a black guy, it's kind of hard to tell how shitty it is. A white guy is pretty easy to pick out how bad it is. That's for sure, like, hit harder on, like, skin.

3:57:46Unless, you feel me, depends on the color, yeah. Hey, bro, all tattoos come from Joe ain't shitty, though. I need to see some real work. Probably worse on average than... Nah, not all the time. I'm not saying all the time. I'm saying on average. Particularly some Mexican fools that get stupid down in jailhouse stats. I've seen some shit. For sure. Drop the Gem said, I'm just a caring white man with work ethic wondering where I got to go to get a Tam sandwich. Tam's burgers. Rolls, Cranes, and Central. That's not safe. Burgers in the chat. You white, you might be able to swing it. No, go take a picture next to Kendrick Miro and just get a burger.

3:58:27You could for sure, like, yeah, go by there. Is it still cool, too? Because it totally was for a while. People are acting like tourists, and just how they do with the Miro, they do that with the Kendrick. Guwop has been a member for five months. He said, Tam, baby, I can't do Roatan, but I got a Lake Michigan timeshare in Gary. Will that work? Okay. Shout out to you with the financial planning. That's how you shoot your shot right there. I like that. Timeshare is fire. Gary Indiana is pretty janky. Spready Yib's going to take you around out there. Big Dump said, Tam, the MVP. Y 'all got to respect that woman up there.

3:59:07You probably... Eintz. You probably... Eintz is valued, Tam. And you find AF. I don't know what Eintz was supposed to mean. We don't know what that means, but... I think he meant it in a nice way. I appreciate it. It's a compliment. Tam is getting the chat infusion of confidence. I love you guys. She's walking out of here with a hop in her skip. Heels on high. Is that how you say it? Paper Chaser said, Adam, can we get Fleece Johnson on the Adam and Wax show? And did you ask Fleece about his step-by-step video on how to turn someone out? I mean, he told me a lot of game about how you turn a man into a sissy, but I'm not personally interested in that.

3:59:48And, yeah, I don't know. I feel like Munchie and Ant probably wouldn't really vibe with Fleece too good. Lush, I could see. Oh, pass. Yeah, I'm definitely down to fucking chop some game about some booty banded activities. Please. He's going to chop your ass up. I would hate to be a selly. Hot Facts with Robert Reese sent 10 bucks and said, how about Adam let the viewers donate money and the total amount of money goes to the winner. Have the viewers donate every day until it actually happens and that's where you get your total. That's interesting. maybe do like a like a specific stream where we i don't know like you got hr in the chat for real yeah yeah dt west said drop some rap interviews shit's dry i was just a member uh someone is smoking you right now yeah but shout out to him he's doing good keep scrolling down i'm not getting into anybody's trying to tear up stir up hate there but uh yeah we've been doing uh many interviews per week.

4:00:44I know the standard is very high for us to do an almost impossible amount of interviews every week, but we're doing what we can. This guy said, top five, and then a word I'm not going to say that begins with C-O-O-N-S of the 21st century, Charles Barkley, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Jesse Lee Peterson, Poetic Flacco, and the Black Belt Brandon GPT. That is a wild one right there, man. I'm going to take Flacco off that list yeah then why you put Flacco on there the fact that you included Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas is pretty funny to me oh he's listen normally not something I would really weigh in on but yeah Jesse Lee Peterson god damn that guy's a piece of work on site A said Lush said munchy blood type is Inglewood O negative you out of pocket Lush did not say that I did not say that.

4:01:45He was talking about blood types, and I said I didn't know my blood type. I said his blood type was Inglewood. That was the joke. Yeah, and he said it was all negative. Oh, man. Jason Avocado said, this is your chance to talk about blank. What's the update? Y 'all seeing him and Blasey beefing? Y 'all tore him up in that courtroom? Shout out to the B team and the 8-trade team. Nah, I ain't talking about homeboy anymore. he can do whatever he wants I don't give a fuck I ain't talking about all that and I did see him beefing with Blasey but shout out to Blasey and there's really diminishing returns and commentating on this sort of beef I'm gonna be real with you uh Kai2A became a member shout out to them drop the gems sent five bucks said have to agree with everyone else Adam please add Almighty Suspect to the Tuesday show interesting interesting I do there's a a repeating Monday podcast with Munchie being Almighty Suspect that's been going on so if you want to get your Susfix, that might be the place to go.

4:02:42I don't know. TapNT said, how about you and Remo ask the next guest from Chicago about the trains dropping crates off here recently? Yes, again, I would love to hear about that. Recently? Hey, if that's going on, I would consider that to be one of the most interesting things going on in the culture right now in the streets. Send us a video so we can convince Adam he doesn't believe us otherwise. I'm going to look at Chiracology and take a little dive. Could you imagine how viral the crate of guns being left in Chicago would go? There would have already been like 10 videos shot. There would have been like videos shot with the crates.

4:03:19So good. Daniel Inca said, Lush, can you interview New Jersey artists? Check out the Oscama Esteban. He's affiliated with Fetty Wap. Just came home from a bid and got the streets on fire. I fucks with Jersey Heavy. Interesting. And at MacArthur Park, we got that Fetty Wap discography on repeat. Best believed. Lush shot that discography up before he came here. hey uh can you scroll because i cannot read the stuff at the bottom because of the camera god damn it okay uh joker 8198 the church committee investigated the cia's involvement the committee didn't find any evidence of crates of drugs being dropped off by the cia but they had some involvement with arranging transport i would love to learn more about that did you hear how fucking stupid that like anyways but no but thank you for that context i'm not saying that's a dumb thing to say but just anyway right okay e boogie said they said blood is neapolitan and fa looking like big weld i don't have no idea what big weld is but shout out to him reap cash sent 10 bucks said did you talk about the lsu football player who unaligned himself because the police lied on him and had him facing murder charges look it up if y 'all can i we should talk about it on a future episode i kind of got a dip soon but that sounds insane news tomorrow for sure damn that's fucked up that's we've cash i was just thinking about the smoking on some ecstasy song earlier is that uh that's it that's the bottom two more uh members miss brianna g and john wiki shout out to y 'all for becoming members we appreciate it seriously and we would even appreciate it more if you guys would drop a like on this video we always been trying to hit one thousand likes if humanly possible i appreciate everybody for tuning tuning in for a four hour plus podcast please become a member help us from having to sell our booty hole for a rental car because we will absolutely do that i'm speaking for myself but maybe some other people's here as well i'm not above it i'm not above selling my booty hole for a rental car uh shout out to donnie for uh running the boards and everybody who tuned in donated etc please go hit up the adam 22 youtube channel i dropped two vlogs in the last three days that you should definitely go check out and everybody else here has content in one form or another appreciate everybody we out gang