In short
Memo600 and interviewer debate Chicago street politics and business paperwork, focusing on Lil Durk and why Memo600 says he’s “dissing” Munna Duke; they also discuss 6ix9ine/Blueface-era controversies, Larry Hoover/1090J snitching, and Memo600’s 600/Chicago upbringing and key figures (including Steve and D-Thang). They address online “police” accusations and the authenticity of viral weapon stories (e.g., Rondo’s “rocket launcher” being a training prop).
Guests
Memo600 (Chicago 600 figure; longtime underground/podcast-adjacent personality; discusses growing up around 51st/King Drive and 51st/Michigan; credits his step/raised father “Gucci” for style; describes close ties to Steve, D-Thang, and early 600 associates like D-Thing, C-Day, Manny Moon, M-Thing, Trigger, Damo, and LA). No Jumper host/other interviewer (appears as the main questioner; references Bill Simmons/Ryan Reynolds ads but does not introduce a separate guest in the transcript).
Key claims
Memo600 says Dirk told him not to “focus” Wack/avoid conflict; Wack 100 says releases are required for business and that documentation beats conversation. Memo600 denies being forced into beef and says he’s “my own man” but contracts require paperwork. He argues “snitch” is about intent to come home, and claims viral weapon imagery was fake/training. He says Duke/Munna Duke tensions stem from earlier incidents and online trolling.
Notable examples
Dirk DM read on-air; calls to Chief Keef and Blueface; discussion of Larry Hoover/1090J; Steve’s death at 15; D-Thang’s influence and a “peace treaty” that wasn’t honored; Rondo’s “rocket launcher” as a gun-store training prop; Memo600’s “pork chops”/religion-fashion critique.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussion on Dirk and Business Dynamics
1:30 to 3:25
The guests discuss their relationships with Lil Durk and the complexities of collaboration.
“I don't even know where to start because it's been so much shit.”
Navigating Industry Relationships
3:25 to 5:54
Exploring the intricacies of maintaining relationships between artists and managers.
“I'm like, nephew, it don't work like that.”
The Impact of Perception and Reputation
5:54 to 8:00
Analyzing how public perception affects business decisions in music.
“So everybody looking at it, I feel like some people gonna pick this side, some people gonna pick that side, some people gonna say, I fuck with both of y 'all.”
Understanding Personal and Business Boundaries
8:00 to 14:00
Discussion about the importance of clear communication in business dealings.
“All the dissing he was doing had already been done.”
Contract Realities in the Music Industry
14:00 to 17:00
Discussing the complexities of contracts and personal relationships in the music business.
“They can't, they could give me advice and all that, but they know they can't tell me what to do.”
Larry Hoover and Snitching Debate
17:00 to 19:40
Exploring the implications of snitching and stories surrounding Larry Hoover.
“Show me what I said physically whack tried to make me beef with dirt.”
The Impact of Little Steve
19:40 to 23:00
Reflecting on the influence and legacy of Little Steve in the community.
“There's infinite people getting killed in Philly and New York and all these other places, but the people don't really become famous.”
Understanding the Chicago Projects
23:00 to 26:00
Discussing the history and effects of housing projects on community dynamics.
“even though he passed away very young, right?”
Influences and Personal Style
26:00 to 28:00
Sharing insights on personal style and family influences in the music scene.
“well, basically I used to, my family GD, so I used to live on 51st and King Drive.”
The Realities of the Streets
28:00 to 28:40
Discussing the challenges and dynamics of street life and the impact on youth.
“That nigga's trying to jig on the block.”
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Schooling in a Dangerous Environment
29:40 to 31:00
Exploring the normalization of violence and guns in schools.
“And that's why, because they said that they tried to do the peace treaty shit and then some niggas didn't honor it.”
Rumors and Reality of Gun Culture
31:00 to 31:40
Discussions surrounding the myths and truths about gun culture and public perception.
“I'm trying to hear about the rocket launcher, all of that.”
The Internet's Role in Street Culture
31:40 to 33:10
Analyzing how the internet influences street narratives and interactions.
“I wasn't sure if the poster was fake, but it was like, you know, it was basically almost like a wanted poster for Rondo with the picture of the rocket launcher and shit.”
Tensions Between Factions
33:10 to 35:00
Examining the backstory and current tensions between different street factions.
“that they've already had their entire lives documented on Reddit and YouTube because they're not on the internet to realize all this shit is really already out there.”
Historical Conflicts and Current Dynamics
35:00 to 36:40
Delving into past confrontations and their impact on present relationships.
“and then you're doing and trolling online.”
Understanding Internal Politics
36:40 to 38:00
Discussing the internal politics within street groups and their implications.
“It was like the weirdest, longest buzz I ever heard.”
The Complexity of Loyalty
38:00 to 39:20
Exploring themes of loyalty and betrayal in street culture.
“So you can't say, oh, he doing this because he died?”
Personal Views and Cultural Commentary
39:20 to 42:00
Sharing personal opinions on cultural practices and authenticity.
“last question on that situation ain't been no talks with Edo Like, hey, slow down or no?”
Discussion on LA Capone's Legacy
42:00 to 45:06
Explore the impact and respect for LA Capone in the hip-hop scene.
“Certain shit he was saying, like, you know.”
Memo Reflects on Starting His Music Career
45:06 to 46:31
Memo shares his journey into music and how he gained popularity.
“Man, do you feel like, you know, I want to get back to like some of the music stuff, right?”
Behind the Scenes of Memo's Rise
46:31 to 49:11
Discusses the influences and early experiences that shaped his music.
“like I've been going crazy were you surprised how quickly it took off if you was doing 100k straight away that's a good look like Cloud and all that shit we been having and my family.”
Interviews and Industry Dynamics
49:11 to 53:15
Memo talks about his experiences with interviews and industry politics.
“You're going down, like your business going.”
Discussion on Jam and Snitching Allegations
53:15 to 56:00
Memo weighs in on the rumors surrounding Jam and the implications of snitching.
“I felt like the reason, like, you know, there was too many questions about smirk.”
Discussion on Rumors and Speculations
56:00 to 1:01:00
Learn about the rumors surrounding Jam and the implications of snitching in the streets.
“Jam's outright said, nah, wait till the facts come out.”
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1:01:00 to 1:02:00
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“Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast.”
OTF Dynamics and Recent Events
1:02:00 to 1:10:00
Explore the recent incidents involving OTF, including Doody Low's shooting and the dynamics within the crew.
“When you went out there, that was like...”
Addressing the Chain Incident
1:10:00 to 1:11:00
The discussion centers on a stolen chain and the implications of buying it back.
“But it was a chain you had bought from, I guess, another nigga.”
Updates on 600 Members
1:11:00 to 1:11:55
An update on the well-being of various members of the 600 crew and their losses.
“Because I know that there's a couple people.”
Rumors of Dating Jada
1:11:55 to 1:13:15
Clarifying rumors about dating Jada and interactions with other artists.
“Just so you know, Truth Teller, during this interview, while it came out...”
Reflecting on Rivalries
1:13:15 to 1:15:09
Discussion on the dynamics of rivalries and the implications of social media on relationships.
“gang how the fuck you bigger than me you know you doing stupid shit to get you I ain't saying he did or, but the way you portraying, like you rapping about this shit and now you in jail and I'm free.”
Personal Views on Diss Tracks
1:15:09 to 1:16:25
Insights into the feelings surrounding diss tracks and their impact on relationships.
“I feel like you had to make a comeback, but you ain't wanna broadcast that shit because he could have been had this shit on seven albums.”
Family Dynamics in 600
1:16:25 to 1:17:54
Discussing the family-oriented nature of the 600 crew and its implications.
“You and Vine was the hottest niggas on the roster.”
Taking Risks in the Spotlight
1:17:54 to 1:18:48
Exploring the risks associated with a public lifestyle and staying safe.
“I seen you out there while I was just on the motherfucker.”
Life with Von
1:18:48 to 1:19:51
Recalling experiences living with Von and the bond they shared.
“But who going to play with me right here?”
Activities Beyond Music
1:19:51 to 1:20:50
Insights into leisure activities beyond music, like paintball and go-karting.
“There's a lot of my friends to this day be like, you be so comfortable in Atlanta.”
Fights and Altercations
1:20:50 to 1:22:08
Discussion on recent fights in the scene and the behavior of artists.
Personal Life and Challenges
1:22:08 to 1:23:30
Discussing personal challenges, including health and family.
Surviving Gun Violence
1:24:00 to 1:25:12
Discussion about personal experiences with gun violence and its aftermath.
“I got shot three times at two altercations.”
Fatherhood and Parenting
1:25:12 to 1:26:41
Conversation about having multiple children and the challenges that come with it.
“You don't got the reflexes to not make a kid?”
Legal Troubles and Trials
1:26:41 to 1:27:56
Insights into the complexities of the legal system in relation to ongoing trials.
“And when you live in Illinois, if you get government assistance, like cash on your EBT stamp, they automatically put your baby father on child support.”
The Impact of Fame
1:27:56 to 1:30:15
Discussion on how fame affects individuals and their families within the music industry.
“Because they made him wait like 11 years for his trial or something, right?”
Dealing with Loss
1:30:15 to 1:32:05
Exploring feelings of grief and loss related to friends and family in the community.
“It's crazy to imagine if Dirk had made it to Dubai because he's tapped in with the royal family and stuff over there.”
Relationships with Mothers
1:32:05 to 1:33:53
Exploring the connections with mothers and their influence in life decisions.
“but why would you want your sons, alleged killers, to be out, though?”
Influences of Late Artists
1:33:53 to 1:35:09
Memories and influences from interactions with late artists like Young Dolph.
“You were spending time with young Dolph like a week before he passed, right?”
Friendship and Loyalty
1:35:09 to 1:37:26
Discussing the value of friendships and loyalty in dangerous environments.
“It's crazy to think he was moving that military in Atlanta, but then in Memphis.”
Community Dynamics in Chicago
1:37:26 to 1:38:01
Insights into the cultural and social dynamics of Chicago's neighborhoods.
“The dicks think, ooh, they grind you, drop you off on the ops, pull off, make them beat your ass or shoot you.”
Philly Vibes and Brand Introduction
1:38:01 to 1:39:00
Discussion about a brand from Philly and cultural slang.
“come on out of Philly man cause every time I see Nemo he with you what you got in the bag man tell the people what you got going on It was po from West Philly my brand Cairo Casanova.”
Humanizing Drill Artists
1:39:01 to 1:40:10
Desire to showcase the human side of drill artists through fun activities.
“I can cook, fish, swim, fight, shoot, kick it, whatever, gang.”
Updates on Cap and Relationships
1:40:11 to 1:41:35
Discussion about Cap's incarceration status and personal relationships.
“Cap out Cap been quiet for a little bit.”
Collaborative Energies and Creative Directions
1:41:36 to 1:42:56
Conversations about teamwork in the industry and personal goals.
“Hey, listen, if we do the interview, man, you know I'm going to come with a certified question, man.”
Discussing Push in Peace Movement
1:42:57 to 1:44:07
Reflections on the impact of peace movements in Chicago's youth.
Emerging Talent in Chicago
1:44:08 to 1:46:29
Identifying and discussing upcoming artists from Chicago.
“yeah what uh you still keep up with Just Blow?”
Future Projects and Collaborations
1:46:30 to 1:48:05
Plans for a compilation album and collaboration within the community.
Memo's Current Endeavors
1:48:06 to 1:49:08
Memo discusses his upcoming album and production deals.
Memo's Current Endeavors
1:49:39 to 1:50:11
Memo discusses his upcoming album and production deals.
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Transcript
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1:13You know that. And he been trendy right now too. He got a lot going on. Yup. Mimo 600 in the building! Shout out No Jumper, man. It's big 60. Y 'all know what's going on. Let's go. It was probably the third, fourth time we had you on here. Hell yeah. There you go. For sure. Okay. It's a lot. I don't even know where to start because it's been so much shit. I know where to start. Oh, what the fuck? You said you were leaving. I'm standing in the field. We got Oakland Field in this bitch. I got a call from the side saying, you know he on the West Coast. It's only one place he can be. Yes, sir. So I doubled back.
1:53It ain't no. It ain't no. I doubled back. Popping out. I'm always on. Listen, it's my first time laying eyes on this young man. And he's been running around for about two years. Probably three running it up. Now, I'm going to tell you. What kind of respect is that for your elder? Oh, my God. And then you ain't even sent me. You ain't sent me. So, Air Force One, because you done got a little bag. You told the people. A lot of bags. I told him to diss Dirk. No, see, you were in the wrong game. That's what you said. I ran with that narrative. Did I say that? No, my words is that. Before y 'all say anything, I said I felt like his intentions were.
2:36I didn't say, oh, whack want me to dis Dirk. I said I felt like his intentions. What did I tell you about my relationship with Dirk was? You said you was cool with smirk. But listen, how you was coming to me, all the questions was about Dirk. If you coming to me to work with me, the questions should be about me. Okay, now, hold on. You told me you had a thing with Dirk through Empire, right? Yeah. I called Ghazi. Ghazi say, whack, it is some paperwork. On my side, if you working with him, we are releasing. Respect for you. He said, buddy, on paper with Dirk. You sure, Ghazi? I'm sure. So I call you back.
3:12I'm not going to step on Dirk toes. I got respect for Dirk. Me and Dirk could. The minute Dirk look up and see whack promoting his artists, now Dirk looking at me crazy. So you told me, whack, your business with me. I'm like, nephew, it don't work like that. If you got some paperwork with somebody, we got to clear them. If Dirk going to release you, tell him send us a release. Now, he come to me through kiddo. I don't really know him. I pull his numbers up. He got some numbers. People know who he is. Kiddo Curry brought him to me, right? I was going to say, different kiddo. Yeah, nephew brought him to me, right?
3:53Well, y 'all know another kiddo? Yeah. Oh, if I want kiddo. We're talking about kiddo curry. Y 'all got a salsa. All right, keep going. No, this is real, right? So I think he got a little irritated because I was keeping it business. I was, bro, I need it from Dirk. He was ready to move forward. He was ready to go to the studio, get to work. I need it from Dirk. All right, this is the Dirk. I'm really him. This is Dirk's message right here. Which one do you want me to read? The part about him. I'm really him gang I don't gotta you know I'm fucking with you man this is a DM from Dirt it said it's not even that deep with us everybody want us to war I refuse it I refuse to war with you I'm chasing the back blood that Wack 100 shit don't fit none of us I'm gonna tell you cause nobody ain't tell you okay so he watches him telling me not to fuck with you basically Dirt being a man I'm not a yes man but hold on but this is my thing is I didn't come find you y 'all came found me it wasn't like folks came to me like man I think you'll be good working with Wack he get a lot done in my head I'm already knowing you knowing you got shit going on I took it to myself to go Blueface scheduled to go to tour I hear Blueface I say Blueface shit Wack I ain't tripping me to help if you can come on tour with me it was love right so my thing is I wasn't gonna step on dirt toes have him looking at me crazy because he didn't told me he signed to Dirk.
5:24So my thing is, if Dirk ain't tripping, get the release. And what'd I do? Got the release. You never sent me the release. I had to get it first, gang. It'd take a couple, like, I had to get in contact with the lawyer. I got the release on my phone right now. I can show you that too. Okay, so my question. Let me ask you this. After Dirk sent you that, did you change your mind or even fuck on what? No, I thought of it. I thought, because that's my homie in the streets. Like, real homie. I grew up with him since I was shorty. but I'm my own man, gang. I still was fucking with him. But in my head, I'm like, see, at the time, me and Dirk had some shit going on.
5:55So everybody looking at it, I feel like some people gonna pick this side, some people gonna pick that side, some people gonna say, I fuck with both of y 'all. We gonna see how. Yeah. But the questions was, you fuck with Smurkin' Woo. All that 6ix9ine shit was going on too. I ain't even bringing that up. He did some Von and all that. What 6ix9ine shit? Well, he was saying, fuck folks all this. 6ix9ine been doing that. I understand that. That ain't what that got to do with me. No, but you were being best buddies with 6ix9ine when 6ix9ine was doing the most disrespectful shit to the BDs and O 'Block in general at that time.
6:22First of all, hold on. I don't manage 6ix9ine. I don't manage. But you were co-signing them the same way where Big U and all these crips got mad at you for co-signing them as well. Obviously, that was very problematic. You think I give a fuck what a crip getting mad at me about? Is you out your dumbass mind? You tell us moves that you make to avoid having problems with different people that you are affiliated with all the time. So don't act like that's the one thing that you wouldn't change based on what your affiliates would think of it. Did I change it? That's how you said it. No, but I'm saying.
6:49Well, I mean, you ended up not working together because he's a fucking psycho. Who didn't not work together? You were in 6ix9ine. You're not a manager anymore, right? I've never been his manager. You were banging 6ix9ine's manager at the time. You never heard me say I was 6ix9ine's manager. You used to say you were his manager. I ain't heard of him. Motherfucking lie. It looked like you was at one point, though. No, no. Fuck what it looked like. I thought it was. The artist I managed, what do I say? I'm their manager. I do business with everybody the bigger thing is that you don't know how to push an artist unless they have animosity towards a bigger artist and that's what, that's his issue that he took it to him where you get that from?
7:23you only thrive on camera who did Blueface have animosity against? you a stupid ass liar he helped him build from the ground nigga not no animosity not saying that I've never did The only music business I did for 6ix9ine is got him a Kodak Black feature, which Kodak Black dissed him on his own shit. And what Wack do? Delivered Black a million-dollar check. Dead homies. Now, you tell me, were any of my fucking artists, Wack was pushing dissing, nigga. Who? 6ix9ine ain't my artist. All the dissing he was doing had already been done. Okay, check him out. Clock that. Huh? Clock it. No, this real shit.
8:10I feel it. I did a podcast with academics, which I did for who? Academics. Right? And clout. And clout. You wanted to be on camera with 6ix9ine. No, I didn't. Academics said what? Can't nobody box this dude in. He running through all these interviewers. You a street nigga. Maybe you can box him in. And I'm the only motherfucker boxed him in. But you didn't. You can't box him in. You glazed him. You took him under your wing. No, I didn't. Yeah, you did. You tried. That didn't happen until six months later. You wanted. If a motherfucker called me, right, and said, Wack, we got three shows, half of me in the show.
8:51For who? Six nine. Hey, act. What's dude sitting on the same number? Six nine. They got three shows, half of me in the show. You want them? Yeah, Wack, what you want? 20%. He said, okay, run it. All my business is through an email, a text. Nigga, you ain't never heard me say what you. I tell niggas if you do your job, then I can't do business with him. The problem is there's these weak-ass streets wanting other niggas to do their job. I don't give a fuck who that man told on. Everybody he told on I ain't never seen the day, spent the day, don't give a fuck about them, their mama, their daddy, or nothing they stand for.
9:24Now, if it was one of my people, then I'm going to deal with it differently. My homies will tell you, 6ix9ine ain't never met damn one of my homies, been in my neighborhood. I don't do that woody shit they just did. ain't now one of my homies ever been in this man's presence. When I did that podcast, we was 15 deep. It was rolling live weekend. We deep as fuck. You know who I went over there with? My baby mama and my two daughters. That's it. So I don't know what y 'all talking about, but I do business with everybody. Why are you talking about 6ix9ine? We're talking about you trying to hype him up to go against Dirk.
9:58He know I never said that. No, I ain't say that. You try to put the battery in his back. You grab that 9-volt. First of all, I'm going to be real. I'm going to tell you why that would be the dumbest move for me, right? First of all, if he telling me him and Dirk is good, right, I need that relationship to stay solid. We talking about Chicago. We talking about Chicago. Either I put him in a position where his ass get smoked or I put him in a position where we get him hot. Fucking with anybody from a city, it don't even got to be him. It can be naysayers, followers who think that's what a nigga might want him to do.
10:35That's why nephew in there now. Right? That nigga ain't stupid. Ain't no way Smirk will be out here in the city calling that type of dog on that. But if niggas is moving on they own accord, you always going to get the backlash. He know my thing is, shit, he good with dirt. Okay? I got the whole Atlanta. You was moving around Atlanta at the time. You asked me that, too. You even called him. I called Chief Keef. Chief Keefe say I'm good with him I'm setting up the play What the fuck are you talking about? I called him I said yo bro he like nah whack we good If you fucking with him I do something with him I hit my artist yo blue I know you don't know him Cause we put him on the tour He like whatever you need fuck let's rock and roll Why the fuck would I turn around And do all that and say Go at one of the biggest niggas in rap From his city That's where the thing came in It was the hearsay shit All I said was I felt like and everybody came to you as, oh, he's saying you trying to, no, it wasn't that.
11:32But I don't know how you feel. What made you feel that energy, though? I said it a thousand times. It was just all a questioning about smirk. Like, if we working, there's going to be a question about, but at the time, I didn't understand the music and, like, how y 'all work. You know, now I understand. You get why I'm like. Now I understand. I'm like, because now you calling about studio. You trying to get us into it. He calling about studio time. This is business. So the minute I start doing these things, I'm stepping in the position of label or management. But yet, I can't step into those shoes if he already got a label.
12:07Oh, by the way, I'm an independent artist. I ain't under no papers on all my masters, all that under new management, savvy, you know, all that. Yeah, so in these days, I tell people, like, I tell you this. The worst part about dealing with the streets is they don't understand business. The fact, now he understand why I was asking questions. The fact that he didn't understand, bro, the minute I get to, I'm already making calls. You was on the calls. Chief Keefe, I'm calling Blueface. I didn't call Downside. I'm calling producers. I'm lining it up. But the minute if I had to press play and we got to running around the way I was doing, boom, and Dirk took that some kind of way, it's going to cause a problem with me.
12:50It's going to cause a problem with him. Because now I'm like, nigga, I just spent a hundred. He like, whack, that's on you. You knew the nigga was signed to me. Why you didn't check in? How you feel, though, that when I just read the DM, though, Dirk told the nigga not to focus you. That's cool. That's Dirk's. Me and Dirk ain't never did no business. We just always had a mutual respect. What I respected about Dirk is I watched him come up and hit pay dirt. And then I watched him when he moved to New York. The nigga was moving around by himself. I used to see him at the clubs, and I watched him reinvent himself and come back up.
13:20Listen, I came into the game with the eyes against me. Right? It's a lot of people. They told Blueface. They tell a lot of people not to fuck with me. But those that fuck with me and see what it is, they quickly understand. Either there's some hate over there or there's some bullshit over there, right? It's like myself. How you move and how niggas think about him, they feel the same way about him. Let me tell you what he knew. He knew all the calls I had made for him. He knew that. He knew I didn't call Gazi. I didn't call Cheebo. I didn't call all these niggas lining it up. I just want to make sure before I stepped in it, I didn't, A, step it on his toes, B, get him into some shit because they could have looked at him like you on some snake shit because you know you up on some paperwork.
14:04What I think about me, Mo? I don't care. Well, nobody, I'm my own man, gang. They can't, they could give me advice and all that, but they know they can't tell me what to do. Yeah, but you can be your own man, but when you come into contracts, that man is tied to that contract. Listen, my contract is different from any other nigga contract. That's my real brother, gang. Like, if I say I don't want to be with this shit, fuck all that label shit and all that business shit, gang. All right, bro. Okay, white boy. Are your ancestors going to acknowledge what he say verbally or they going to want to see a document before they spend some money?
14:34My ancestors aren't involved here. I'm actually not even involved. No, no, bullshit. Let's keep it real. No, I feel what you're saying, but I'm telling you right now, if you come to me and say I want to work with you, we got to see what Dirk say. I'm going to tell Smirk, I want to go work with Wack. He going, is you sure that's what you want to do, brother? We know we got to take it. Guess what? We just make that out. Just make sure that's what you're going to do, bro. I turned him into a Kendrick Lamar, right? And ain't no release. Guess what happens? Whack, get out the way. He ain't even got to say nothing to me.
15:01He going to use that man in that office over there in that suit and tie to serve that paperwork. And guess what I'm going to have to do? Get out the way. But guess what? When I go to my label to get the budget, guess what they going to ask me for? Where's the release? I ain't going to lie. So when I walk in my label. You're looking at it as some label and some executive shit. One thing about that man, gang, he is a real genuine nigga, gang. If I come to him and say I want out, gang, well, he don't want to do no. He's not going to go through all that business shit. He's going to tell his college people, his lawyer, I forgot the nigga name, Josh.
15:33He's going to tell him, look, I want Mimo out. Josh Barber. Yeah, he's going to tell Mimo he wants out. Always remember this. Same thing he did. When I said I wanted out, we came to a mutual agreement and we got out. Always remember this. Same shit I would have had dealt with you. In corporate America, documentation beats conversation. That's what we did. What we do, I showed y 'all the documents. That's what we, I still got the documents. No, you didn't show them to me. That's because I had to get them. I came to you first. I just want to, before I get out, I want to make sure. All I'm asking for is the release.
16:03I called Ghazi. Ghazi said, whack, we're releasing. If you're doing, we're releasing. I called everybody I felt I was going to need to give him what he needed. Tours lined up. Producers had you lined up. All that. I was finna send him But Before I started Cutting that check I need to know What I'm investing in
16:26Cause If a nigga right now Go Get my artist some money And do a bunch of shit And blow up And get a hit I'ma have my attorney Send the paperwork in And I'ma claim everything And shut it all Either I'ma let it rock Or I'ma shut it down It's that simple I don't even gotta beef with you Nigga I ain't got to Run into you in the street I ain't got to do nothing. All I got to do is send a document. So are you guys good now? What was the recent flare-up? What was the flare-up? Yeah, what was the flare-up? You still taking it as I said that shit. I didn't, gang. You go to the damn internet. That's all you see.
17:02Show me what I said physically whack tried to make me beef with dirt. I didn't say that. I felt like I remember that being a say cheese title or something at one point. Of course, that's some clickbait shit. But in my head, I'm like, this what it felt like. I'm not saying this what it is. I'm not saying, even if I did feel like that, I'm not going to go to the internet and say that, bro. I've been media trained before. Nobody ever media trained me. How many times I've been on this bitch and I know how to move? Yeah. Y 'all to watch niggas be on that, bro. So you what, a GD or a BD? I ain't GD or a BD.
17:34You know what I mean? I don't be knowing. I don't know how that shit works out there. I'm from 600. Also, y 'all totally different. Because I was going to ask him how they feel about 1090. He ain't a GD. I don't know shit. Yo, he don't care. Oh, 1090J. How you feel about - He got some paperwork. The Larry Hoover situation. Oh, yeah. I don't know, gang. Larry, I feel like he probably do. Back then, niggas was doing shit to get out, get around. That's a fact. He snitched, gang. That's a fact. I feel like he did. He definitely got some shit. I mean, unless somebody got a good argument for while the newspaper's lying, it seems like - Larry, what are we doing?
18:05I don't give a fuck if it was King David. He probably, you know, niggas going to do what they do to get out of that to their family, gang. I got a million niggas behind me, gang. I don't give a fuck about them in there I don't want to make it home to my family gang look at all these niggas I'm a snitcher right now you also gotta keep in mind that like if you get locked up right now or if you get in an interrogation you're already thinking bro I got a million interrogations witnesses right but you know we all know now that if you're in an interrogation or if the cops have you on body camera or whatever that there's a very good chance that that shit is coming out obviously in 1968 nobody was thinking about that shit even getting a copy of the newspaper It was probably a big deal back then.
18:43That shit was going to get out. Even if they did, they thinking at the moment right now. Like, man, I got to get home. I'm going to let him do his thing, but I'm going to be real. Snitch, stand for shit, nigga. I'm trying to come home. Think about it. That's great. I will tell you this. Shit, nigga. I'm trying to come home. 10-90, he got me in the trick bag because he told me to provide something. I got to sit down with him face to face and read it, right? Yeah. Because I didn't think he had. I was defending him. But he got a motherfucking. He got an atomic bomb bigger than that. So he gonna shake the whole Chicago, my nigga.
19:13Oh, this was somebody from Iraq or just Larry? Just Larry. No. Niggas from Iraq. Another one. He got more Chicago drop. That's a fact. I told a nigga, nigga, who you get that from? There's killers everywhere. There's snitches everywhere. There's bitches everywhere. And there's facts. We not the only turnt city gang. They only praise us because the rap shit gang. Nigga. Academics. Academics put the light over there. Yeah, he did. Act put the light over there. We not the only city that's, they only praise us because there's chief keys, the dirt. We loud with our shit. There's infinite people getting killed in Philly and New York and all these other places, but the people don't really become famous.
19:50But meanwhile, Chicago is the only place where like, obviously, yeah, you're going to get views if you interview the top rappers, but there's these dudes who are like under the big rappers or are just associated with them that can go. Look at the Bezu interview that we did. That was like one of the biggest interviews we ever did. and it's like you could be a huge music fan and not know who Bezu is but he's an important part of that Chicago produces when it comes to the up and coming underground where don't nobody know they got to when it come to this podcast shit anybody sit down from Chicago does numbers for some damn reason I could bring you an underground dude in from county nobody know you know that the lore is deep especially if they got me and whack on this they been waiting on it Speaking of lore, why don't you see your ass out of here so we can get a real street professor in this bitch?
20:42If you want to talk to Wack, just dial 911. They'll connect you. Wack, beat his ass out of his ass. Look at this clean soda. Look at him. Man, you got to teach me. Just blame that. That's enough, man. Damn. He keeps saying that. He know what touch you. I want to fight this nigga so bad. What, me? No, the black dude What black dude? Mandingo Mandingo Bro, don't worry about it I'm finna get him touched for you Bro, you wanna feel anger? No Wait till you find out that Diddy was hitting your bitch I believe in my bitch And then wait till you find out the Punisher was hitting The Punisher's crazy We got Mimo, we got Trap Boy Ross It's the biggest This the first meetup I never put a face to it this is my first time like actually seeing you and I fuck with your work appreciate it I'm a big fan of yours too bro like you know I spent no I still ain't watching that shit six hours I was just when I did the DJU interview he was playing it while we was preparing for the interview but we was watching I was seeing certain shit I'm like oh yeah he was doing his homework man certain words throw me off it scare me like when you be there beefing with this blog and that shit scare me I feel like you know some police shit but you know that's your job gang I can't you know but coming from where I come from that shit bring up a real flag like you know I fuck with you that's how you get your money you can't tell me oh you rap about this or it's a real you know do you you getting your views your money that's how you do it you gonna do it I ain't gonna doubt about that I'm a big fan like I've delved deep into the history of 600 and you know the area and all of the rappers that have come out in there so many legendary people obviously yourself but then so many other legendary people that have come out of there like something I'm really eager to ask you is just kind of like you know your experiences interacting with some of the other guys from over there and kind of how that whole come up happened.
22:34I literally was just on the phone with CD. No way. Like three hours ago. Damn. How's he doing? He good. High spirits, you know. How do you feel about Rondo these days? He cool. He keeping his head on straight. No, he just lost his brother. He was actually with my little brother when he died. He was with Steve. Rondo and Steve was together when Steve got killed. So I took him in like my mama had him. You know, that's my little brother. Yeah, rest in peace, little Steve, man. I got some questions because I know that he's somebody that was very influential to the whole area, even though he passed away very young, right?
23:03Is it 14 he passed away? Five days after his birthday, he just turned 15. Damn. So how does it come about that somebody so young can have so much impact on a group of people, you know? Being around them, you can see yourself. So I don't know how to express it to y 'all, but just like him being him, basically. That's my younger brother, but I learned a lot from that little nigga, like, you know. So I'm not trying to be disrespectful, right? but I've heard he was kind of wild out there. Yeah. Little Steve had a kind heart. He used to go in the house, tell my mama, kiss her, I love you all. I ain't with the, like, affection and shit.
23:39Like, yeah, but he did that. My mama used to appreciate that shit a lot, but, you know, that's just him. He went to church, all that shit. Still was him. Don't do what he have to do to get a dollar in. No. I heard a lot of people were, like, scared of him, even, you know, even at, like, age 13. People were kind of scared of him in the area, you know? I'm doing the interview.
24:05What was that? You all get she wasn't feeling it? No.
24:11Oh, shit. Yeah, man. You know, I've heard a lot of stories, and it kind of seems like he was somebody that just kind of had a lot of respect in that area and kind of like was just an infamous figure, you know? I mean, Steve Drive kind of became this famous thing people would say all the world over. We actually came from 109th and Loomis. we was basically we came from 49th estate voucher city which is the projects when they total projects down they get everybody sectioned everybody spread it out to different names that's why chicago so fucked up too everybody basically came from the same place and the projects they get everybody sectioned they vouchers they spread it to blocks where are you over here so many years you over here so many years this what you is now and this what you hang with it you know so yeah before they demolish those projects from what i understand there seem to be a lot more kind of structure and kind of respect for the older generation and was it was it literally that the projects just getting demolished that changed everything that changed the world basically because our influence to the world was different like yeah basically yeah so i heard uh your father was kind of like a well-known guy he was you know known for being super fly that he nicknamed gucci right yeah oh my god i do my homework man he's right 18 willis now he own a a couple of 18 wheels, so he out the way getting money, man.
25:25I learned a lot from him. That's actually Steve's father. My biological father was in jail my whole life, in and out, so that's the man that I looked up to and raised me. Is that where you kind of get some of your style or fashion from? Because I heard he was a fashionable guy, right? Yeah. That's crazy. So what was it like growing up? I actually told him a lot. I told him when I found out he was doing it, I'd tell him, this is what you should get, this is what you should get, and this is what they want. Yeah, you styling him, basically. Yeah, basically. No, that's crazy. So how did you come to meet a lot of those guys from 600 that you became kind of famous with?
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25:56Actually, well, when they told the building, well, basically I used to, my family GD, so I used to live on 51st and King Drive. Like basically the young money and the med boys, I used to hang with them when I was a shorty. Steve, my mama stayed on 51st and Michigan, which is cheap key block next to them. Bam, I used to come around. He used to be like, man, these are my friends. Like, ooh, you know, I used to tell them like, man, I ain't trying to hang with no beaties. Man, you got to actually meet them. They cool. I started hanging around more, and I felt like, all right, they cool. They got his best interest.
26:31So I started hanging around more. That's before it was 600. So who were the first people that you kind of met from that area? D-Thing, C-Day, Manny Moon, M-Thing, Trigger, Damo, all them type F. So you mentioned D-Thing. LA like you know you mentioned D Thang now I know that he was somebody that was the first person for 600 I hung with for real so I know when he passed away that kind of had a big big impact on a lot of things Steve was actually getting ready for D Thang funeral and Steve got killed no way I'm in a crib with Steve we in the house we talking D Thang just got killed and as a big brother I'm telling Steve like you see how serious this shit is man you can't be out here playing because we used to play the video game I'm telling him like man this ain't Call of Duty ain't no rising once you get shot Like, you know, you have to actually be on point.
27:21Then my brother got killed. Damn. Them days still ringing in my head. Me, that actual conversation, me telling him that. Like, this ain't Call of Duty. Ain't no getting shot and getting back up. You know? Was that scary growing up? Like, knowing how dangerous it gets? How old was you when your brother, when Steve got killed? Are you older than him? 20 or 21. Word. So, with D-Thing, I heard a story. This might not be true, so you can correct me. But, like, I heard there was a story about a whole peace treaty in the area shortly before D-Thing passed away. and some people said I don't know if it's true but essentially kind of maybe some of the guys maybe weren't as on point as they should have been around that time because they were thinking things had died down is that true or is that kind of not how it went no we never let our guard down never ain't no we but you never supposed to let your guard down basically but was that something that the older guys were trying to push the kind of peace treaty thing no it was us really what's kind of the reasoning for something like that like you know really that's how it was it was real live money being made on them blocks So our young ass coming over there, fucking up with the older guys.
28:20That nigga's trying to jig on the block. They've been doing this shit before we was even born. Why would we come around doing all this hot shit and they got real million dollar organizations going on? Like, you know. See the Calumet building. That's where D-Thang got killed on the corner of the king. I heard that building used to make millions and millions of dollars. We come our young ass around. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects.
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29:31Upfront payment of$45 for three months,$90 for six months, or$180 for 12-month plan required. $15 per month equivalent. Taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only. Greater than 50 gigabytes may slow when network is busy. See terms. fucking up what they got going on. And that's why, because they said that they tried to do the peace treaty shit and then some niggas didn't honor it. He's always a high head though. That's my brother. And some niggas didn't honor it and some other shit have it. Some still don't honor it to this day. Yeah. So what was it like going to school in that era? Because I heard school was wild.
29:58Kids were bringing guns to school, that kind of thing. Yeah, that's going to always be this era, next era. Like, that's always. And that was just, that was normal. Because I'm not, look, I'm not from that lifestyle. To me, that's crazy. But that's an everyday occurrence for you at school back then and did it ever kind of get cracking at school shootouts at school that was a real thing yeah shootouts fights jumps all that shit and what kind of goes well you just you just felt like that was normal that was just a normal thing to you yeah that's all damn basically yeah no like that's the thing it's that's why i think for me it's like you know i'm so interested in learning more about what's going on over in chicago because it's so out of this world to me it's hard to even imagine what's going through your head when you know kids are bringing guns to school fighting people getting shot at school you know it was a point in time where they started putting the metal detectors in that bitch.
30:40First, it was sweet. You could open the side door for your homie, let them in with the pipe going to school. Talking about pipes, man. Did you ever see the 600 Mac? What about it? Oh, yeah. The legendary Mac. The legendary Mac, man. Is that still around? Like, you think that's still out there? That's been melted down or something now? Hang on, man. Look, you better run. What the fuck? Man, this nigga, I'm telling you, he knows what's going on. I know. I know. I'm trying to hear about the rocket launcher, all of that. Oh, yeah. The rocket launcher, man. Was that? No, that was fake. Was it fake?
31:10Yeah. It was a tester thing. You could go to a gun store and they got the fake props set up and you could take a picture. It like teaches you how to use it. Same thing. I posted a picture with it recently, a couple of years ago. Yeah, because there's been a few other people since Rondo that like took photos with that shit and then people kind of revealed that like this is like a training thing. That's not no real one. But was it true? It would have been in motherfucking Rockers Island or something. I heard CPD kind of took it seriously when Rondo first posted that picture. There was like an all points bulletin out.
31:38going on. We was hot. That shit was fake. Because there was that poster. I wasn't sure if the poster was fake, but it was like, you know, it was basically almost like a wanted poster for Rondo with the picture of the rocket launcher and shit. The post probably was real. I don't know. I was in and out of jail when I was doing that hot shit. Yeah, he was terrorizing the neighborhood. I know you said you ain't seen all his interviews, I mean videos, or content, or whatever, but some of the shit, I know you had to see some clips or whatever, right? He ain't never seen none. I know some of your homies have.
32:06When y 'all see the information, he be having, what do you think of it? Like, where do you... Because I've talked to... The way he talking to me right now, I feel like he got his head on straight. I'm not saying everything true because I don't know what... A hundred percent. And I ain't trying to put us on the note. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Because, you know, niggas be like, man, that nigga travel at Ross to Fez and shit. But like... Hell no. But realistically... Are you the police? Hell no. I'm a super fan, man. I ain't the police. Like, who's Interpol? Hey, but realistically, when a nigga asks you these questions, though, you can see that all this is stemming from the internet based off questions that niggas is asking, all right?
32:39Because a lot of niggas, they take it literally where they want. First of all, this is what I've been telling y 'all for years, y 'all too. It's not when people get up there and say, are they the police? Basically, we give y 'all shit to say and talk about. If our loud ass wouldn't be, basically, we saying we the police. How you getting your info? We on the internet loud and going live and doing all this shit. So how the fuck you going to call him the police and don't call yourself the police? You the reason he saying all this shit. I feel like the problem is that some super street dudes are too burnt out to realize that they've already had their entire lives documented on Reddit and YouTube because they're not on the internet to realize all this shit is really already out there.
33:18I'm still not a big Reddit fan. I just hear about it a lot. That's the kind of thing I've gradually just got more and more into Reddit over the years. Search your name in there. Yeah, they've been on that. You all threw that motherfucker. And fuck that. We finna get to some real shit. What's up with you, Monaduke? R.P. Monaduke. but alright so I was watching you did the DJU interview but I think before I even seen the DJU interview I had seen 16 break the story where he was saying that cause you was getting backlash cause after Monadouk died you know O Block 600 y 'all like this everybody know y 'all from being cool so when Duke died we seen you trolling so everybody like kinda confused about the situation like damn why is Memo trolling they only confused cause certain niggas don't do what I do.
34:05I'm not going to sit here and dick ride no niggas and you know it ain't that with them and we got shit going on. There's certain niggas, I ain't going to say they scared. Yeah, they scared, but I'm going to always speak my mind. If we not fucking with y 'all, we not fucking with y 'all. You can't force me to fuck with y 'all because folks don't fucking with y 'all. But what 16 basically said, and he said, I know you seen it, but the nigga said basically the reason you don't want to do don't fuck with each other is because a nigga shot at you while you was in O block and another nigga from 600 got hit or some shit like that and you ran up out of there.
34:35I ran up out of there? That's what I heard from 16. And shit got a lot of views, so it looked like... It was true. That's what they saying. And then when you adding like, damn, someone of Duke and Mimo had beef because I used to see I go at it on Clubhouse a little bit, you know what I'm saying? But like, I didn't know it was to that extent or whatever. I don't know what happened. But when you hear 16 say that and then you're doing and trolling online. It look like it's... It look like it, you know what I'm saying? It look like it add up a little bit. Basically. Yeah. Yeah, basically. So you on Duke's situation wasn't no shit because you praise E-Dog a lot.
35:15So I figured like E-Dog could have been a nigga that could have stepped in and kind of patched shit up. But he didn't do enough to prevent what's going on. Word. So then you... I'm talking with him to death. So even though like, you know, 600 and O Block, y 'all got like this long history of like being the brothers and shit. You don't... Damn. The internal politics is kind of interesting because I think I heard you say or someone else say that didn't King Von knock out Duke back in the day and stuff? That's where this stemmed from, right? That's where a lot of... You said that Duke... You said that King Von...
35:53Y 'all was in Iowa where King Von punched Monaduke in the face because he was showing out in front of some hoes and he knocked him out in front of the hoes and took his pipe. Yeah. And you was there to see that? No. You just heard about it. I know. Heard. I basically was there, but I want that. Yeah. It's true. And that's where you and Duke. You know it's true. Did he deny? I ain't seen him deny. He did interviews with, what was that, Cam? Somebody. He didn't deny. Cam Capone probably. He didn't deny. But he just said, oh, man. Memo's just Memo. Like, you know. But let me ask you. Y 'all had problems stemming before that for you to even go online.
36:26Yeah. Say that? Yeah. Is somebody's phone buzzing like super? I think it's the fan. You hear that? No, that's not me. No, somebody's phone. It's not me. Yeah. Damn. If it's not anybody here, then sorry. No, it's mine. That's cash. Oh, okay. It was like the weirdest, longest buzz I ever heard. That's my cha-ching. Oh, shit. He's just getting rich over here. Hey, talk about cha-ching, man. I see the watches. I'm a big watch guy, man. You've been shining with the Patek. Jeez. That's my brother, Brian. He just made his watches. Oh, for real? That's fire. That one looks expensive as fuck. Yeah, that one's looking like.
36:59Got him in all covers. Six figures. Yeah, Sersky. I might need one of those, bro. Yeah, Sersky. I might need a ticket. So have you always been into watches? Hold on, we ain't finna skip over this dude shit right after this. I got that watch dude. Yeah, I'm always been. We ain't finna skip over this dick quick. So look, come on, man. Like, you know all the history I got with O Block and shit. What's the conversations going on behind the scenes? I mean, it's some of my people feel like, like, this bro, no, we've been around him forever. How could you just say that? But how could you say, fuck the situation?
37:30like if y 'all saying that's true that he shot one of my peoples in that mean you don't give a fuck about your own people if you agree to that shit so there's kind of an understanding amongst why you doing what you doing yes sir but there's probably a lot of people that you don't care for that you're not vocal about well I don't know but I'm sure I just assume that there's other people that you don't get along with but to a lot of people were you talking about Duke before he passed Yes. Okay. So I wasn't really tuned into that. Yeah, the clubhouse shit. We've been had this. Okay. Before he passed.
38:05So you can't say, oh, he doing this because he died? No. I really can't blame you for something that, like, everybody in Chicago does to you. Yeah, other people will, though. How could you blame me? And when I got shot, this nigga was trolling me. He got hit like I got hit, but he ain't fucking breathing. It's because you saying shit like that, though. Because, like, I get it. I get it. When I got shot, he was saying a little certain shit. Where y 'all was at when he was saying that shit? I get it. Y 'all, you saying that about me? Maudie's supposed to be your people. Fuck him. What about his people?
38:31They love him. I'll feel that part. So who was heck to you then? That's one of the bros. He was just, you know, I went as close as, you know, but he was cool. Because you said some shit that, you know, I peep. It's that heck business. It's that heck business. And then you got to, like, read in between the lines. So I'm like. That's for the trenches to understand. Yeah. So I'm trying to just. Hey, I'm in no Jumper fans. they gonna in the comments they gonna have whatever the fuck but I heard you say that heck business and I know heck from old blog that's T-Roy younger brother right and shit like that so I'm just I'd be like damn it just because it confused the fans when we see you being able to the diss dude if you a real fan 100 % you know what I'm saying yeah it's not for me to get on here and say oh this is what I'm saying that's the heck business with this you know that's the heck business so alright last question on that situation ain't been no talks with Edo Like, hey, slow down or no?
39:24Yeah, always. All right, for sure. You don't tell me, man, you can't. That's like you saying, fuck OD, gang. You saying, fuck phone number. He say, some of your homies bitches. I don't get on the internet saying, fuck phone number. Like, man, you don't have real conversations. So when he say that to you, that don't make you, like, I'm going to slow down on it? No. That's where you be at when your homies be dissing me. Do you have these same conversations? If you do, that means they don't respect you to listen to you. I feel that. I feel that. There's a real close relationship between guys from O Block and 600.
39:57I've heard you say before, like, King Von was more 600 than O Block, right? See, they tell me all the time, calm down, stop doing that. Yeah. The way y 'all was at when they was doing this shit to me. I'm going to stand on what I believe in, man. That's one thing about me in the trenches. Yeah, you been doing that, so I'll be like, damn, Kamimo ain't got no filter. But then I also, I'll be like, damn, because y 'all been mangling for so long. The Duke shit was strong. I ain't really see that but I've been seeing the clubhouse shit so I knew it was something there but how you was just going like nigga you said the nigga he wasn't even supposed to be up there cause he a Muslim he shouldn't even get no pork chops tell me I'm wrong that's just crazy for you to say though that's no disrespect to the Muslim community I got family that's Muslim I'm Christian 100 % but tell me I'm wrong gang why is you even at a restaurant I was confused about the pork chops spot that's my thing he could have got a salad I go defense for that what's the things called the little road throws they be wearing designer throws.
40:52They don't even make those type of shit in a real, like, religious game. Like, all that shit fake. Y 'all do this shit for an image, gang. Like, you got on the Louis V. Throes game. How? How, gang? You on your knees with a fucking Louis V. Throes on. They don't make those, gang. Like, this shit is all for fashion and look, gang. Think about it. You talking about, like, everybody turning Muslim and shit? Let's be real. Some people are probably more serious about it than some other people. Feel me? You know. Don't claim that shit if you're not that serious about it. That's like me claiming 600 if I ain't serious about it.
41:26I'm going to stay in the doubt for this shit. I don't gang bang. I'm not GD, BD, none of that organization. I don't do none of that shit again. But I'm a 600 boy. I'm going to die for this shit. What's up with Buka? Buka, Buka. Y 'all still?
41:44Pukaloo, Pukaloo. Free break. I'm Steve. That's going to be Pukaloo. Shout out to Brooklyn 600. Sometimes I feel like he got a man like me, and sometimes I don't. Because certain shit could have been avoided. Yeah. Like, you know? It still seems like 600 split up, in a way. It is, but it ain't. Y 'all got to look at it. It was Brick City 600, man. Like, it's a whole lot. Yeah. All right, but my boy L.A. Capone going up. Yeah. It's some respect on his name now. Like, you see? He didn't call his wave. It's bare respect on his name, man. Like he started half of it. Shorty advanced. He was more advanced than his time.
42:21Certain shit he was saying, like, you know. Yeah. Was before our time. How do you feel about like his newfound, like, internet YouTube fan? You talking about Tay, right? He got that shit on lock right now. Like, yeah, doing the clips and shit. Oh, you saying Tay? I thought you said that. Oh, yeah. You said LA Capone. You said LA Capone. And I was wondering also. I'm sorry. Tay Capone, nigga. Of course, LA got the way. I don't watch that shit. I got his number. He got my number. We talked. So you ain't been seeing Tay going up on the YouTube, though? Yeah. I laugh at that shit every time I see it.
42:48I'm still... Yeah, he going out. He threw me off when he was saying, oh yeah, Meemoe took a lot of us on our first hits. I felt like that was some cop shit, but other than that, I fuck with him. In a way, he giving you your flowers, but saying something. Yeah, yeah. Basically. I'm still... How do you feel about him changing his name from Tay 600 to Tay Capone? You feel like that was the right thing to do? Yeah, but no. You got to stand on... Like, his murder is still alive. Basically, no police shit, but... The nigga in jail. It can happen. It can happen, man. Yeah. But I ain't changing my name to E-Day Capone unless I really stand on E-Day like business.
43:29Like, I don't see. All right, since you said that, though, there was a picture of Quando Rondo sitting next to the nigga Lil Mick in jail. Quando Rondo? See, you got to get your own shirt. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. There was a picture of fucking Rondo sitting next to Lil Mick in fucking jail. And you saying he was uncomfortable. You could see in the video the whole time. He a little guy. He young. You could see my cousin in the background. He outnumbered. My cousin is Miko, the one who walked up with that shit. So when you see pictures like that, and then you saying, like, niggas ain't standing there.
43:58He's a little nigga. What he going to do? He could swing on him. You could be a man. Like, I feel like he could have did something, but they going to fucking dog him, man. A lot of people felt a type of way about that. You could tell he was uncomfortable. You could see the video where he just trying to nod him off, but shorty don't really, like, sit on that table, like, what's up? Yeah. Shorty, nine gonna be nine, gang. Shorty ain't no bitch, you know? It's crazy, because C-Day and all them niggas still locked up together, right? Oh, no. Oh, they ain't nothing to say? Oh, word. All right, say that.
44:25You mentioned E-Day a moment ago, and from what I understand, you guys weren't really on the best terms when he passed away. Crazy as hell. That's my real brother, gang. Any argument I had with him, he gonna confront. E-Day, he was the glue to us. I don't give a fuck what going on, E-Day gonna be the glue. A lot of people kind of said about him, you know, when he passed away, he'd kind of moved on. He had his business going and stuff. A lot of people were surprised he was even back in that area. Did you feel like that was... No, Coop going to be Coop, man. He's going to be in the trenches regardless.
44:55Anytime I came to Chicago, that's who I met up with. The most trencher's blocks, y 'all, I don't think we at, we on them blocks and we meeting and we, what's up, brother? Man, do you feel like, you know, I want to get back to like some of the music stuff, right? And from what I understand, right, you kind of maybe got into rapping a little bit after some of the other guys from 600. Yeah. How did you kind of like get motivated to actually start making music? I always looked at rap like that. I don't know. I was never a rap fan. I still don't know a lot of new rappers and all that shit. I was in the studio.
45:29I had just got out of jail. I was in the studio with a guy from Blackgate 55th GC. And his cameraman was D.I.B. Films 2-4. He recorded this video. We in the studio. He like, man, you woo-woo. You Memo, you woo-woo son. Like, he older, so he ED, so he know my parents. He telling me, like, man, you could be, that shit you doing on the internet, all that trolling, that shit you doing, you could turn that into money, gang. Like, you should become a rapper. Like, you know, they'll tune in to your shit. Like, woo-woo. Hey, man, I'll shoot your shit for free. Just turn up. I just want to see you lit.
46:04I got in the studio one day. I made a song. My shit did, like, 100K views in, like, a week. after that I just started running with rap I'm like man they fucking with me like at first when I was a shorty you know they had the little tape players you record yourself press take the tape out I listened to it one of them I'm like I sound like a fucking goofy a robot or something I ain't like my voice I'm like I'll never do no rap shit like you know then I'm like they fucking with that shit like I started rapping here since then like I've been going crazy were you surprised how quickly it took off if you was doing 100k straight away that's a good look like Cloud and all that shit we been having and my family.
46:41Everywhere we go or move when they tore the buildings down, we always hung with them niggas that's winning. I know just anybody, gang. If I feel like we can live on your shit. If y 'all losing or ain't even about losing, gang, because we can turn y 'all up, but we not fucking with no goofies or no. So we always been. So I felt like the cloud was going to always be there. It's just how you move with that shit. So I've seen hella classic pictures of you with Chief Keef back in the day and stuff, right? Like, what was it like for you to witness his come up in the music and how big he got? Was that motivated to you?
47:10chills in my body like I want to rob her so I just feel like damn he really doing that shit like I was one of the first ones to have his album that was my name but like he gave me the cd like don't get nobody my shit don't play it for nobody just so I watched the shit and I'm like damn this shit could be big ain't you in like the love social video one of those videos like early on you in that 300 the 300 video yeah yeah so how you feel when uh all right because look you and DJ you did y 'all interviewing shit. Niggas felt like he was treating you. But was it a skit? You said it was like a skit y 'all had going on.
47:42Y 'all had some type of understanding y 'all was finna tee up for the interview or some shit? Hold on. So you and DJ you did y 'all interview, right? Everyone knows skit. It was just like that's how we talk to each other, gang. Like I gotta understand the way that's like me talking to nine or you know? Yeah. Like he feel like you you know? It ain't no let's say I was I was high I was drunk It could've went way left Yeah But I was on some chill Like you know Like You see I'm sitting there like Alright you done Like get your questions out Like I could've really Alright bitch ass nigga You ain't gonna talk to me Like I'm not that type of guy You could've laughing at him right It could go there But I fuck with him man So alright You did the Exposing Me song You wasn't on OTF When you did that song right No And Steppers None of that So that's why when DJ You was saying he only knew about you because of dirt.
48:37I was kind of confused because I'm like I've been knowing about the niggas. It's trolling and skit. We know. The world knows. I've been lit before OTF. Because then you're saying you're an Adam 22. So many niggas that was rapping around my era. But you're trying to tell DJ you're like oh you came over under Adam 22 which is like obviously not true. I wouldn't even know him if he hadn't really done an interview on here one time. That day. that exact day we was doing the interview, he was telling me a lot of shit about y 'all, which you used to work for him. Man, he's saying that shit. I was running.
49:09You took him from him. Nah, that's Kat. It was a lot of shit that was said. Man, look. He's paranoid. This is a story. So look, before I even knew him. You're going down, like your business going. Right now? Yeah. You wanted him to work for you, coming here with the 07. Man, that's Kat. The 70s 077 Unc nigga. Oh, my, my, my, my, my. 607 Unc. He a new No Jumper host. But what does Unc have to do with DJU? DJU just losing his mind over there. I ain't that type of thing. This nigga, DJU, I'll fuck with DJU. I used to, but the nigga... He was one of his employees. He's saucing that shit up. Nigga was never listening.
49:41The nigga had a media page, so before I was even doing the No Jumper shit, I was working for No Jumper. I was living in the A or whatever. I had met DJU. He pulled up on me and shit. I was making some money with the nigga. I was running his social media or whatever. Eventually, Adam flew me out and gave me the job, so I started working at you like a bop. Flew your ass out Man Nigga Chill the fuck out The nigga hired me Put me on You gotta do it Like they're crazy The nigga hired me right But I was already Doing shit For No Jumper remotely So that's the reason DJU even wanted to Fuck with me anyway Cause I was already Doing this shit For No Jumper So side note I hadn't even met DJU Before I even met Adam Or whatever So I don't know Where shit got tricky I guess the nigga Felt like we was getting Bigger interviews Or doing the interviews He wanted first Cause really A lot of this shit The hostility came when we got the Zoo interview before he did.
50:32And that's when I just felt like the nigga stopped fucking with me. I feel like with him, his shit going down. So he need everything he got to do to. But he ain't down like 16, though. 16 down? That's a different level of down. I don't know. But this is 16. You was on there like, this ain't no 16 shit. So you insinuating this kind of down. He's putting all the media platforms against each other. 16, basically, it's 12 shit. But I fuck with 16-2 gang. I'm not going to sit here and say, oh, he do his research, he do his homework, but everything not accurate. This man right here, his shit is, I don't know what the fuck he doing.
51:11So 97 % what you've been saying that right here in my face, not the shit that is on the blogs, but right here in what you've been saying, like accurate gang. Did you feel it was interesting? I'll be on the reddit to myself, man. Did you think it was interesting? It's like that same week that, you know, DJU was kind of, you know, giving you a hard time in the interview. He was getting pressed by the 4K Trey member, D-Dog, with the flag and all that stuff. I don't know if that shit real. I don't know, man. All that shit could be. But I feel like it is real because if you claim to be Vaughn DJ and you go over here to do this with them.
51:43And you let a nigga push you around like that. What type of nigga is you? Then everybody saying, he was saying, ho, what's your life? He once saying life. He said lighter. He was like, ho, what's your lighter? and then everybody said, oh, he was a stand-up guy. He was saying, hold what you know. He was saying, lighter. Y 'all got to listen. But even though, I feel like if you DJ, I mean, if you King Von DJ, them niggas don't really, and fuck all us with all the shit going on, he the closest thing to us. You that man, DJ. Yeah, so like, that situation, he shouldn't even put his hands on you like that.
52:13So if that is a skit, you crazy for even. I don't think that was a skit. I don't think it was a skit either. Hang on, you don't do skits, gang. That's not no skit. I don't know, because the Charleston White shit look like a skit to me. And that's why the shit with DJU tripped me out. It's probably rehearsed or whatever. But that's what I'm saying though because at one point... See, before the cameras roll, we gonna talk about what we gonna do. We don't do that right here, but you feel me? We don't usually do it, but I feel like a lot of smaller pages and stuff, that has become the norm. He had to say that, the little smaller pages.
52:39Well, I'm just saying. But I mean, we've done a little bit of it, but it feels like smaller pages. Now that's like required. We gonna fake some shit. That was just out of nowhere. I was trying to avoid it. Like, it was no skit. Like, nigga, Uncle Fee. I moved your interview, or I moved WAC from noon to 11 a.m. because I was like, I don't want him to see Nemo. But then he saw somebody else that he doesn't get along with. So he stayed here. So he hopped on the news with them for an hour. And then when he's coming out from that, boom, he sees you. He's like, oh, here's another internet op to interact with.
53:06No jumper, nigga. Here's another internet op on Steve. Ops, gang, it's just the shit came out the wrong way, gang. I'm going to be a man and express how I feel. I felt like the reason, like, you know, there was too many questions about smirk. It could have been, if you want to work with me, ask about more about me. Don't ask about another man. I understand. All right, bet. You fuck with smirk. He lit. We going to see what we can do to boost that with the smirk. Don't ask me what you got going on. All that extra shit that was fluky. Like, you feel me? I fuck with Wack. He got his shit going, man.
53:36I don't know about no snitch shit. I ain't seen no snitch shit. You feel me? Nah, man. Whack paperwork would be the most exhilarating paperwork of the year for a lot of people. If there was whack paperwork, it would be the most well-publicized paperwork of all time. I had to mute up. Like, I fuck with Woody, gang. I fuck with Woody, too. I fuck with Woody. We're my guy. But, oh, yeah. So you and Woody was in the club together or some shit. I'm always with Woody in Atlanta. I live in Georgia, man. I'm always with Woody. So there don't be no politics behind that. Because, look, so Woody came out to L.A.
54:08And I guess he went to, he was with Seti Nash. I fuck with Setti too But the politics in LA be strong Cause like he came out here And Setti Nash had to make an apology video Because they like look You can't have no nigga that snitched In our hood or whatever So the fact that you said that you kick it with him all the time And ain't no 600 members like what the fuck you doing Setti fuck with Woody 100 % And the A Setti was one of the hosts of me and Woody When we went to do content with Woody in Atlanta It was Setti bringing them to us Setti and No Nick the nigga No, no, no. Yeah, they was the host of me and Woody, 20V1.
54:43All right. Now, on the reverse side, you see how the 60s was on SETI ass about that, and ain't no 600 members that's like, what the fuck you doing with Woody? And the politics ain't strong like that? No, that person came to me and said something with Zoo. Yeah, I can see Zoo saying some shit. He DM me, he DM me. I see niggas doing anything for money. What was your response to that? How y 'all going to say something about me and smirk book for some shit, hanging around some niggas? I brought up the jam shit. I know. Let's talk about that. I don't know if that's true. We don't know. It's not confirmed.
55:15It's confirmed. It's not confirmed. I was just going to say, that shit ain't been confirmed. It ain't been confirmed. But look, so recently. First of all, everything that's been going on in the smirk trial been confirmed. If that shit with jam was true, that shit would have been confirmed. On paperwork, he wore a wire up. That shit would have been confirmed. We don't know yet. I'm not sitting here 100 % saying, oh, jam a good nigga. He ain't snitching. I don't know, gang. It's not confirmed yet. All right, so what's your relationship with OTF Diddy? You knew him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so when you was signed to OTF, Diddy was on OTF at the time or not?
55:48No, Diddy just been around. Just been around. Diddy a real. All right, cool. So we talking about Jam. So Jam got, you know what I'm saying, he got thrown in the mix. It's like niggas were saying Jam the nigga that. He's saying Jam because Jam the underdog of the social media world. So everybody else lit. Think about everybody on the case. They lit. but Jam like the underdog that he fresh out they gonna say I don't know where that rumor came from I ain't gonna lie behind the scenes it was Chicago niggas even calling saying that nigga was the they don't know that's cause shit before this like his past like you know but they don't know if that man 100 % it ain't been proven but on top of that so everything else you right here with me you been doing your work have you synced that shit nah 1090 Jake synced that shit there's been no paperwork there's been no proof Jam's denied it.
56:37Jam's outright said, nah, wait till the facts come out. But now his baby mama got killed. That's not true. So that was a whole other separate case. Some kid killed a male woman. It was a different thing. And people were trying to face it. That's some misinformation. Damn, that's crazy. All right. But so since people was expecting that Jam was a snitch, I guess Dee Dee brother is like TeeTee Lil Ted. Yeah. that nigga interrogation video went viral cause that nigga was crying and y 'all know them interrogation videos don't come out till like a year later so that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying so in the interrogation video he was crying and he said I'll tell you about a murder so now everybody like maybe if it wasn't Jim it could have been but if Smirk innocent what the fuck could Ted tell him think about it Why would I sit here and say, oh, Tia told on smirk?
57:34That's like me saying smirk guilty. But I'm just trying to say the internet is speculating that. Oh, shit. It ain't jam. I'm looking at it like that. Yeah, the internet looking at her. I think if he was the one telling, though, that footage of the interrogation wouldn't be out because that would be sealed, right? Yeah. Because they can only let those out. I doubt it. It's so much snitch shit come out, man. Like, I doubt it. It could be sealed, but it still will come out eventually. You kind of touched on Didi. Like, you guys weren't seeing eye to eye too long ago, right? No. some personal shit happened with like no yeah some text messages got leaked to me talking about DD and DD felt some type of way so that's what sparked the what you asked what you asked I don't fuck with niggas I don't fuck with niggas like one of the 600 members I he basically we had an argument he showed everybody the text that I was saying I don't care gang like the same shit I said in the text is I say to these niggas like it seem like OTF broke 600 up though you gotta you gotta 600 you gotta 600 nigga going around showing OTF when you come at OTF you gotta be 100 % OTF not 99 not 97 not 96 not 98 none of that shit you gotta be 100 % you gotta put OTF before your mama like and I'm not that type of guy gang once this shit die down and once y 'all treat me or I gotta move around I still have to go home where I'm gonna go home to yeah I have to go home to them people that y 'all made me turn my back on.
58:59You think that's what Dirk demands, is that you basically turn their back on your neighborhood to put the OTF on your name? I'm not going to sit here and be fake. I feel like, yeah. It'd be some divine to conquer shit. That's interesting. I mean, they feel like Buka, a lot of the fans feel like Buka turned their back on something. Buka's just a loyal, genuine nigga, man. If he fuck with a nigga, he gonna fuck with him 100%. I know. But let me ask you this. I don't really know too much. I know Buka was around, but like Buka and Dirt relationship was stronger behind the scenes before the music or it was really off the music?
59:35I feel like 9 9 was the one gave him once 9 got booked he man you go in for me and he talk you know he made the way where Buka would be Buka so it wasn't even like a real friendship it was more so like it was that too beforehand before all the it was that too but still Shorty really stomped it and stomped him and made him like This was gonna go on. Like, this was gonna go on. Like, no. And Shorty, really Shorty. I love Nana. But why Buka, though? Was he the first nigga rapping? Like, besides Rondo? Like, why did Rondo feel like Buka was the nigga that Dirk shit put on his name? Because he was around the wave.
1:00:13That 600 OTF. Think about it. Look at the videos. You see? Well, other rappers. Just Blow. Just Blow came in when I came in. Hold on one second. We gonna keep it thorough. We gonna go up, man. Hey, so while we're on the topic of Dirk and the situation, man, obviously you went and filmed a music video in Savannah. How did Savannah compare to Chicago? Were you feeling safe out there or did it? Hell yeah. Yeah? If you know, you know how I went out there. Like I drove too, so that'll tell you 100 % everything. You had to stop for gas a couple times, yeah? That's it. I see you in the gas station with that video.
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1:01:52Six months or$180 for 12-month plan required. $15 per month equivalent. Taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only. Greater than 50 gigabytes. May slow when network is busy. See terms. Excuse me. When you went out there, that was like... Since you brought that up, I got to keep it real. Niggas felt like you did some goofy shit when you did that because it was like, if you was really trying to get your mans, why was you in 600 Breezy making... Who said I was trying to do that, though? I was going to shoot a music video. The name of this video is Duck Your Show, and the song, everything went with the...
1:02:23with everything that was in Savannah. So it wasn't no, oh, I'm looking for y 'all. Did I say that? I didn't say, oh, I'm out looking for y 'all. I didn't do that. A lot of people read between the lines. Yeah, it looked like... How though? What lines, gang? I didn't come out here and say that, gang. But the fact that you went to Savannah strictly right after that shit, it looked like it was like, oh, we looking for them niggas type of... Because in the documentary... It was a song about the situation and the music video went with the... Like, I didn't say all this. Today, I'm finna go out there and look for these niggas, but I'm going to shoot a music.
1:02:53No. The song go with the video. I'm going to go out there and shoot my video. And if it happened to be that, it's going to be me protecting myself. I didn't go out there and say, oh, where y 'all at? I'm looking for y 'all. No, I didn't do that, gang. No, I feel it. Y 'all know me 100%, gang. Anything I do street, when I ever got on the net and said there's some street shit, like never, gang. I don't do that shit, gang. I think because you kind of did that video at the gas station, then Kondo had his own video at the gas station. That was trolling. That part, yeah, that part, on 6L Cubs, I was trolling, I'm still here.
1:03:25That part, but all the other, I'm finna kill somebody, I ain't say that. I don't know what Breezy did, and we all the palm trees posting, I didn't do none of that shit, gang. I just went and said, I'm shooting a video out there. If y 'all come looking for me, it's gonna be self-defense. I'm gonna pop one of y 'all ass, but other than that. Do you guys from Chicago, I know a lot of people have kind of put down Savannah or Baton Rouge, but do you kind of respect the gangster of these other cities or do you feel like where you're from is way wilder? I tell you 100 % it's killers everywhere. We lost down at one of the top killers in Atlanta, Georgia.
1:03:55You could be killed anywhere, gang. You could go to Hawaii and get your ass killed. Like, anywhere, gang. It's killers, it's bitches, it's snitches, it's fag, no disrespect to the LGD community, none of that shit. It's Geechies everywhere. Like, it's killers everywhere, it's snitches everywhere, it's bitches everywhere. Like, you know? Do you feel like, you know, you'll be, obviously, You went out to Savannah. You said you weren't saying you were going to do anything to anyone, but that's a disrespect to Kwondo, right? Pulling up to the hood and filming a video there. If he took it that way, then that's how he took it.
1:04:28What are your thoughts on him today? How do you feel about him today? He's surviving. He's moving how he posts the move. What's going to be the, you know. Do you still feel like it's a lot of bad blood between your sides or has enough happened over time? What sides, though? What sides are you referring to? Like Kwondo's crew, Lil Tim, them guys. I don't have nothing to do with that. I'm 600. We not a tour with Kwon Do, no. That's Von, my brother, but 600 not a tour with Kwon Do, no. Do you feel like that was, you know, obviously it's really unfortunate how Von ended up passing away, but do you feel like that was just completely random or do you feel like that was something that, you know, they planned to meet up or something?
1:05:03No, I feel like he could have had some more people in his head to tell him, chill, it's not there. You at an album release party, like, that's not what we came for. Like, all this shit could have been prevented. Separate from Kwon Do, like, how do you feel about Youngboy? Obviously, he's just come home. Are you, you know... He doing what he supposed to do. Yeah. He ain't did shit wrong. I used to fuck with his music. I used to listen to him all the time. I ain't gonna lie. I still... The new song we just dropped, I fuck with. He followed it. Wow. So how do you feel, though? Because, you know, like, in hindsight, people be saying that even though it's King Vaughn and everybody love King Vaughn, but when you got 20, 30 Chicago niggas walking up on him, people feel like Lil Tim was protecting his homie and did what he was supposed to do.
1:05:46My first three, four times on this platform, I told you. You said that, right? That's what he supposed to do. That's like me with Cap 600. You right here with me and the nigga beat my ass. If you don't shoot that gun, gang, you bogus. Were you surprised when you saw the news of Lil Dirt getting arrested? Yeah. I think a lot of people in the scene were. I think it's kind of, even now, it's so unbelievable. If me saying I'm not surprised, it's like me saying. I knew that it was gonna happen but let me ask you this though I knew this you hear me you knew in advance cause like before before I hit the internet niggas was knowing like oh they're saying dirt how fast did you know and how did you even find out you ask me that that's like me saying I knew that he did the shit nah hell nah no I'm saying I was shocked like y 'all I was shocked no what I'm trying to say is how did you know he got picked up like cause we all heard like dirt I heard in advance like nigga me academics and Wack 100 was in the group chat the trenches talk So you knew in advance.
1:06:46I'm a real rapper from the trenches. That's my ears. If I don't be in Chicago, I still hear everything that's going on. Yeah. I heard just like, yo. Like before you even hit the blog, you heard like Dirt got booked. Right. For sure. A question I want to ask. I know you, like you just said, you saying that you weren't surprised. If you said you weren't surprised about the news of Dirt getting picked up, that would be low key inferring something happened. So I understand where you're coming from with that. But as an outsider, could you take a step back and say like, Do you feel like the beef with Gwondo and Dirk is over with at this point?
1:07:18Not saying anyone did anything specifically, but has enough happened at this point to say that's over with? Hopefully Dirk beats his case and it's all good, but is it that in the past at this point? I don't think it's no beef. I don't think it's no beef. It was just a friend protecting his friend off a fight. That's all. It ain't no beef, gang. That's like you and Adam Cool. No, I'm going to put them two together. Y 'all together. me and you be out of mass and he pop one of us that's self defense you feel I mean they're probably never gonna run into each other realistically period you know unless a motherfucker go looking for a motherfucker then it's intentionally it's not yeah I mean there was a situation when OTF Duty Low recently got shot in Atlanta and some 4K trade niggas ended up with the jury or was trolling and shit like they had something I don't know if they had something to do with it but they were trolling like they had the jury and shit and Big Mike he did an interview Wooski Brother he said that he think that if Dirk never got booked he don't think Doody Lowell even got shot he said now that Dirk is locked up he feel like OTF and everybody fear game now they ain't got that that industry protection protection on them and shit how do you feel when you hear a nigga say something like that hold on one second
1:08:35hold on
1:08:41My bad. Ask me again. My bad. All right. So, all right. Doody Low hat got shot in Atlanta. You know what I'm saying? And some 4K Trey niggas allegedly had the jewelry and shit, like trolling the nigga and shit. And then Big Mike, which is Wooski older brother or whatever from O Block. That nigga who supposedly told on Vaughn. Yeah. No, he definitely told. And then, yeah. So, all right. He said that he felt like OTF niggas is fair game now. and that shit wouldn't have happened to Doody Love. Only reason I said it wouldn't have happened to Doody because they would have had more shit going on. He would have been somewhere with Smirk doing some bigger shit then.
1:09:17Yeah. Other than that, I don't know. Basically, you got money. This your homie, your right hand. Something happened to him. Basically, how the fuck am I trying to put this? All right. You got money, this your homie. You get robbed. It wouldn't have happened to you because you would have been with him somewhere doing bigger, better, positive shit. Like, you know? Yeah. Then, the niggas that got the chain, it's me and you. We got the chain. We on some clout chasing shit. You got the chain. I'm in tour with them two. I got money. Bam. I hit you up. Man, let me buy that shit. Ooh, just so it can look good on my end.
1:09:55So it can look like, you know, I ain't have to have nothing to do with it. I could just pay you. Like, look. Ooh, ooh. Because I'm my brother. I'm going to be honest with y 'all. I got phone calls. I got phone calls. say man look we we got duty chain ooh uh we want you to tell duty we got an address on you got an address on us so you can get some money and just give us ooh so you know all that shit be internet and it don't be what y 'all thinking it is gang how you feel about buying the chain back though if a nigga was it's safe a nigga took a chain ain't no buying it back look how much shit you heard about me yeah I ain't buying shit back then.
1:10:35I never got my chain took. This is the same Steve Dyer chain. It's going to fucking broke up. Straight up. It's a legendary chain. But it was a chain you had bought from, I guess, another nigga. You bought him a chain? I didn't buy him a chain. That man bought his own chain. Oh, he bought his own Steve chain? Yeah, yeah. Phone them buying their own shit. My brothers got money, man. Some of them got more money than me. Like, no rap, no none of that. You know? Yeah. Can you give us an update on some of the kind of, you know, well-known 600 people's, you know, what's going on? Because I know that there's a couple people.
1:11:06Rondo doing good. He, of course, the squirrel shit. He, you know, he's still recovering from. He never lost a brother. Like, you know, it's me and a couple more members from 600. Like, Manny, Ikki, D, they lost Boss Moo Moo. C, they lost E, they, like, Mizu, the one who changed. He lost his brother. Like, we got real brothers that we lost. so niggas still recovering from shit like everybody good though 9 and a half spirits C.D. and a half spirits he still laughing and smiling D. Rose still smiling I just talked to D. Rose for the first time I ain't talked to him since he been in jail he called me we talking he laughing and kicking it you know a lot of people say that he went down for something he didn't do right he didn't I have a question that's completely off the wall are you dating Jada?
1:11:55Hell no. Jada cool as hell. That's the homie. Cool as hell no. Just so you know, Truth Teller, during this interview, while it came out... That's because how she called my phone. He put out a video. Mimo600 called out for dating Jada, who's 19 years old. Spida D disrespects him on Instagram. I have not watched this video, but that's the title. Spida D always said that because I got him blocked. I treated his ass for getting shot at Walmart with an all-yellow jogger suit on. you bright as hell in Walmart of course they gonna see you you like a big ass banana where you from I ain't even here who that is I don't know I don't know crutches or wheelchair whatever the fuck yeah I got the yellow I got him blocking you hear me talking about that smirk shit when I said I'm in I'm a free and niggas in jail oh yeah alright so look look I'm glad you said that so niggas felt the way though they like what type of nigga is you you celebrating niggas being in jail cause you made a post I guess you was talking about dirt and you was kind of like insinuating like niggas is locked up I'm still out here type of shit but you was talking about dirt so niggas is like damn like it's like you wishing like you glad the nigga got locked up I'm not saying that basically I'm saying alright nigga diss to me you preparing you want me to be a crash out there I'm not gang I'm doing what I do I move how I move but you in jail gang how the fuck you bigger than me you know you doing stupid shit to get you I ain't saying he did or, but the way you portraying, like you rapping about this shit and now you in jail and I'm free.
1:13:26Like who the goofy, me or you? Did you ever hear any of them lyrics that Dirk was dropping during that period and just think you're talking kind of crazy regardless of, let's say it didn't do anything, but you making it look like something happened, right? First of all, these people is not the people you need to be rapping to this shit too. If you want to feel like you did some shit or you need a, a plot or a handshake, you go to these people. Parents, all right? You, you, my mama come to you, all right? I'm standing on that business for your son. Your son good. Look at the niggas that's, you know?
1:14:00Yeah. You don't go to the internet and say, oh, we hit him up. He did. You gonna, first of all, you don't do none of that shit, but if you wanna do that shit again, you gonna go to these people. Parents, you can sleep at night now. I took care, you know? Yeah. You feel me? Don't go to the internet and say, oh, you rapping to the wrong motherfuckers rap to that family. How do you feel when he was rapping and you kind of called Australia on the new album where he kind of like It ain't get released. That was some old shit. I made nobody's property and he made what he made but it be the engineers in these studios.
1:14:31It don't even got to be the engineer. You can book a session. He recorded it for me. You go to his studio. You see my name in the computer. Recent files. You click that shit. You hear I stole that song. Now you go on the internet and you leak that shit. It don't even be the... All that shit be set up for... And the bar, though? What was the bar? It was something about why he dropped you off the label or some shit? Yeah, yeah. Something about Temo. How you felt when you heard that, though? Like, what the fuck? I hit him first, so... You know? It was a low blow, but... So y 'all still can communicate and shit?
1:15:09Yeah, I dissed you first, so... Yeah. I feel like you had to make a comeback, but you ain't wanna broadcast that shit because he could have been had this shit on seven albums. I got messages with him saying, like, gang, you talking about the album? Look, let me show you something. I hit him one day like, damn, because he said, uh, ain't seven in book with no bragging on me. He said, my name of the song was Future. Yeah. That little song. He was like, man, uh, you worry about that song, gang, you lucky I changed my whole album. Like, I really ditched you on my whole album, gang, but, Like I got receipts to all this shit girl
1:15:59Like the real receipt that's him real receipts basically saying like you lucky I changed my shit up You feel I could have really demolished you I could have said all type of shit, but I spared you You know why you feel like he even wanted to demolish you though like how it was coming how it was coming gang I got a voice in the street what you feel like you did that was wrong the song I made Nobody's Property yeah cause I heard that song but I wasn't thinking I took it as a dirt diss but it was yes but you but why you why you had to like cause the shit that was going on it ain't even Smirk that don't like me gang it's the niggas that he be around gang that's in his air so I'm like man Smirk 100 % lured me to death gang he man fuck all that shit y 'all got going on ain't nobody gonna do shit to him ain't nobody gonna touch him.
1:16:46You and Vine was the hottest niggas on the roster. You feel me? Now tell me I'm lying. Tell me I'm wrong. I always used to tell you I feel like you made one of the hardest songs out of Chicago. I've been saying that. Facts. So it was a situation where you basically saying that if you OTF you OTF for nothing type shit. So that's why the No Property song came. You feel me? I can't do that, gang. I can't put 600 down just to be a top rapper. No, gang. Because once all this shit did and gone, gang, I gotta come back home to my family. And 600 is my family. So is it a situation where like Buka can come back and come kick it with y 'all?
1:17:21Uh-uh. And ain't no... It's too far gone. Damn. I'm pretty sure Buka still got like some niggas he close to in 600. He do, but who the fuck is them to? I mean, they somebody, but no. You still got an answer to the family game. We're my boy a family. We not a gang. We don't gangbang. We ain't none of that. You see, I ain't GD beating none of that shit. you still have to come home to the family again. Yeah. It's playing. So has it been a situation where he ain't really been over there? He haven't. Ain't no situation with it. Oh, he ain't over there. No. And I just left. I was just that too. I seen you out there while I was just on the motherfucker.
1:17:58You in the tricycle car? What's that shit? What the fuck they call that shit? A slingshot. A slingshot. Yo, rough, none of that. All through that bitch game. So I'm... No ski mask, face out shooting a video. Ain't nobody doing shit. there's people flagging me down for video. Yo, Memo. But when you're doing shit like that, you don't feel like you playing with your life a little bit. Who gonna do something? Man, bro, we done seen countless times a nigga say that same shit. That's them. That's them, gang. But you can't think like that, and then you done seen it happen. So why have that energy when we done seen countless times of like niggas saying that type of shit?
1:18:34First of all, you see what we got. I ain't saying I'm ducking shit, but I got the peace treaty shit going with the ops. They not. So anything happen to me is phone them. Phone them, I know y 'all. Like, come on, guy. Like, for real. But now don't make you even want to just move a little smarter? I do, though. I do, though. Yeah. I was shooting a video, guy. So you ain't doing that all the time? No, that was for my video. But who going to play with me right here? If you try, you're ass in trouble. You see it, the passage is a ski mask already. Yeah. I ain't ski mask, but I was ready. Like, this shit happened for real, man.
1:19:06Hey, was you living in Atlanta back in 2019 when Von moved there? Because I know he moved there from Chicago, right? I moved there with Von. No way. Me, Von, just blow dirt real. We all moved out together. So obviously, I know that there ended up being a case where Von and Dirk couldn't be together at a certain point. Obviously, before that happened, it must have just been lit. You guys running around Atlanta partying, having fun recording. We're still doing that with the case. For real. Yeah. That's how we made jump. I think we made some jump. Y 'all was in the studio together. Damn. We moved smart, gang.
1:19:35I ain't gonna lie to you. What were some of the most... The case is over with so I can talk about it. Ain't no police shit, but... What were some of the most fun nights that you guys had, like, going out? You guys must have... When you turned up to a club, all you guys, the OTF crew or whatever, must have been shut down. I don't do clubs. I never did clubs. Before Vine got killed, I used to tell them I don't like that club shit unless we get booked. There's a lot of my friends to this day be like, you be so comfortable in Atlanta. When I used to come out there with you, you used to tell us, we ain't trying to go to none of that.
1:19:59We used to... You know? But it's... Atlanta Shores, look, that's the place to be where you want to come up. What sort of things did you do? I know you don't want to be doing the clubs, but did you go house parties? Was it just studio? I never do house parties. None of that? Never. No. But studio, paintball, and go-kart, and carnival, shit like that. You went paintballing with Vaughn? No, not yet. Okay, okay. What's it like when you guys get paintballing, man? You guys must be lethal with the paintballs now. Yeah, hell yeah. And I need my shit fully automatic. Yeah, facts. Can you get a switch on a paintball gun?
1:20:31I got videos where I went viral Pulling up paintball Oh no way Yeah I'm trying to see that Pulling up on What's that Lil Jeff Nun Block Where you did the paintball And shit on this shit No way Yeah Niggas left with their jewelry Could they be taking jewelry over there This is Lil Jeff Nun Block Watch me hop out Hit a nigga on a bus stop
1:20:56Watch the nigga drop
1:21:01That's on my Instagram You gotta be careful That's crazy man That's Q50 I got a paintball But I got a hundred rounds You know That's cool Q50 I'm cool I fuck with that They be taking watches And all kids Niggas be leaving With all types of shit I fuck with shorty I respect shorty You know what I mean I ain't here to this I'm none of that They do what they do game But I'm on a whole other League game But they out here They don't give a fuck They be from with everybody Yeah Think about it At a point in time 600 was too We not That shit not washed up But we not dead Vanish None of that shit We just seen the video Of Vert and What's his name Fatsso Yeah Fatsso I know Fatsso They'll be ahead of my mind Arguing but then they Allegedly fought Behind the scenes too Do we believe that That they had A physical altercation They fought Okay so that's confirmed They won in the room Only a couple of them Could go in the room They did it like me Fatsso said he won And then Vert That's what I heard too I don't know though Vert I fuck with Vert Vert a big ass nigga though Vert don't be high off drugs I fuck with Vert I'm not gonna say that's my shorty I fuck with Vert I ain't gonna say that's my shorty but I fuck with Vert Shorty a real you know yeah I fuck with Vert too Fesso Fesso Fesso be in and out of jail shorty know how to move you know honestly if they could just fight and get it out the way like that that's great that's amazing I don't know if they got it out the way but they fuck you know shit I've seen that video was it Vert fighting a dog you ever see that video when he was choking a dog yeah yeah he was choking out a dog what's your beef with cats man I see you fucking up a cat on the block I said that like recently I was on some drunk shit I got fish I got dogs I ain't got a cat I love kittens I got fish I got alligator turtle no way grown ass cats are kind of annoying I like when they get fat I like kittens they like feisty I got a couple scratches on me right now because of my dog cats like when they get really fat that means that they're gonna die way faster I had to deal with that I let my cat get fat and then he died probably a few years before he should have tragic man carrying around all that blubber you know long live Tony I don't kill him I know it hurts I killed him through obesity that's my cat you abandoned your cat my cat's good Oh, you brought him with you?
1:23:23He out here. Oh, my cat out here, man. He out here. You a cat woman, homie. Cat lady. I love me. Childless cat lady. You got nine cats in that booth. Yo, I got to leave in like 10 minutes, just so you know. I feel like you guys got more than 10 minutes, but I got to link with my mom in like 10 minutes to so you know. Damn, I had. All right, so look. You got shot at a pool party recently? How long ago was this? No. Pool party. That was before the last time. That was a long time. All right, so you got. When did you get shot recently? How long ago was this? April 13th or the 16th. Some shit like that.
1:23:52in and out. That bitch like... Man, you gotta stay in the crib. No, I don't. No? He's outside. He's smart. None of this makes you want to stay in the crib. Hell no. How many times you been shot? Like, how many different altercations? Twice. Two altercations on the ones. Two. I got shot three times at two altercations. Word. I swear I read, sorry to cut you off, but there was a situation on a pool party, whatever, but you was out shooting a music video like the next day or a couple days later, right? Yeah. I was on crutches on the boot. So getting shot, You ain't really deep in that at all. That's crazy, man.
1:24:25That shit don't hurt. The hurting part is the healing part. Damn, man. But you said that you finna testify against the dude that he didn't shoot you. Oh, I was finna say, what, nigga? Yeah, he was looking crazy. Nah, you said you finna testify that the nigga didn't shoot you. No, I was trolling, man. I said I would. Oh, you would. He didn't shoot me. I ain't no testifying shit over here. I'm gonna go to jail. Fuck him. Yeah, man. That's what I seen now. I'm like, Nick gotta be, but I had to ask that shit. And the nigga didn't know you had 11 kids though. Nah, hell no. So you got like full blown 11 kids though?
1:24:58I got two on the way. I got a boy and a girl. So that's gonna be what, 13? Yeah, I think so. What the fuck? Go hold on me, man. Nick Cannon ain't got shit on me. So you just can't pull out or what? I'm going to be more Cannon. Mmm, you can't pull out? This doesn't work for you? Why though? You don't got the reflexes to not make a kid? Yeah, why though? You got kids with any of them? Uh-uh. You got more than YB, I think, as well, man. I want to say something, but I ain't finna overthrow. That's about... Shit. Can I ask a...
1:25:33Can I ask about... I know they're laughing. Yeah, bro. Don't joke around about my reproductive health. I'm trying to get updates on some of the infamous... I bet I'm crazy. It's the last fucking time. Shit, which one? That's the one who keep calling. I keep calling right now. You didn't put a baby in Glizzy Glow? Yeah. You did? Yeah. Oh, shit. Wow, y 'all felt out bad, though, because she been doing interviews and all that. She been giving me nothing but love. Recently, but at one point, she, I guess. Glizzy a troll, gang. Yeah. That's what she do. She's silly, gang. I fuck with Glizzy. She got her shit going.
1:26:08Yeah. I fuck with her kids, her mom. So everything goes over there. She hot. Yeah, you don't want a baby mama up. Nah, hell no. You said you relate to Butler when a nigga said that the best thing that happened to him is his baby mama died. Yeah, some of my baby moms make me feel like I'll sleep peacefully and have a better life if they else is dead. You got sis over or something like that? I don't know, man. You got to be confident that the family could take care of the kids. I was born for one because I was arrested. And when you live in Illinois, if you get government assistance, like cash on your EBT stamp, they automatically put your baby father on child support.
1:26:50It wasn't like, I'm finna go to child support and put you on child support. It was, you locked up, I need government assistance, ooh, so they gon' come to you and, like, it wasn't like, oh, I'm finna put you on child support. Hell nah. I take care of my kids, they will take care of. If I got something going on With my baby mama It's cause I ain't Fucking with them Or fucking on them Or I cheated on them Or you getting caught In body cams Getting in the back seat Yeah shit like that I was with Glizzy When that shit happened Oh that was Glizzy So what the fuck Were y 'all was at Atlanta Yeah I was in Georgia I'm like They got this boy In the back seat Something wrong Something nice too Yeah nah You doing your shit I don't like ugly shit Hey do you Do you still keep up With Bite Down Did he ever get his trial Yeah I always talk To Bite Down Did he get his trial Or are you still waiting My birthday is actually the same day.
1:27:37Same day? No way, that's crazy. We celebrate our birthday together every year. He called me, what are we doing for our birthday this year? Hell yeah. Did he get his trial or is he still waiting for it? He's still waiting. He's still waiting. It's been like nearly 10 years, right? Yeah. They trying to do him like, who was that guy? Was that a guy called 50 Shots, I think? Yeah. From Gyro. From Gyro. Because they made him wait like 11 years for his trial or something, right? I never paid attention to 50 Shots. How can they hold someone like that for nine years without trial? That's Illinois for you.
1:28:05damn that's crazy Melly didn't know I mean he had a mistrial but still he's been in there like 10 years almost yes 8 years 2018 I think so that's 7 years now yeah yeah that's crazy man it is always shocking when you find out about somebody who like fights a case forever finally goes to trial they get like 20 years but they only have to do like 5 years because they just spent like 10-15 years waiting for it that shit is insane yeah if Melly beats the trial that would be the craziest thing ever oh Melly he didn't ever No, YNW, Florida guy. We ain't talking about that, Manny. Did you see where the feds basically saying, because, you know, Dirk, they keep upping the bond price.
1:28:45I think the last bond he put was at$4.5 million, but he got denied again. And basically they're saying that the only way. They want him to go bankrupt. They want him to go broke because they feel like if he were out here. They were telling that nigga put money in his mama name. That's what the fans were saying. But basically they're saying that the feds don't want him out. He married. First of all, they're going to go to your wife first, so you can't push it on that. I'll put it in my kid, anybody. I'll link with you and put my money in your name. Make sure you straight the rest of your life. Just let me out this bitch, especially for these charges.
1:29:18People misunderstanding that, though. I think that's been misreported. What the judge was really trying to say in that was basically that Dirk has so much money that he's making from his intellectual property, his songs, his royalties, that no amount of bail. You diss the songs you're dissing about these niggas that the case on while we rant this shit on you. making money off this shit. Even if he puts up 10 million, he's probably making over a million a month from his catalog, right? So there's no financial jeopardy of him running off on 5 million bail. Yeah, I just watched you post that shit.
1:29:45I don't know why. And they were saying, though, basically, because, like, you know, he keep getting denied. You think he will, because they're going to raise it again. I don't think he's getting bail, unfortunately. I don't think he's getting bail. I think he made himself a flight risk the day when he went in. No, but they, they, they, They like, they saw the reason why that shit happened. It was layovers and all that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the prosecutors just aren't believing that, right? But basically he's saying that that was a pre-book, pre-planned trip. It's crazy to imagine if Dirk had made it to Dubai because he's tapped in with the royal family and stuff over there.
1:30:21So he'd be good if he was over there. Yeah, no, that was even crazy. What was even more crazy, though, because recently, I think little pa's mom came out to the trial. and she told the judge and them that she don't feel safe if Dirk get up. I mean, that's a crazy one because I can kind of understand where she's coming from and I feel like there's been a lot of hate level towards her over that. But even little Dirk's father said that it was very fair and the way that the judge dealt with that. So Dirk's father wasn't attacking on that front. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast.
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1:32:09Whatever you got to say to keep it 100%. Speaking of which, I feel like there's an interesting narrative around you and Mama Duck. Yeah, I fuck with her. She ain't cool as hell, gang. Like, she reminded me of my mom, myself. A lot of people find that confusing, right? She posted me for my birthday. I saw that, yeah. I had my mamas call me. They, oh, you fucking... Bro, it's like, come on, bro. What is it about her that you feel like so real? Because it reminds you of family members of your own. She reminded me exactly of my mom. She lost two kids. She lost more than two, but my mom, that's the same.
1:32:43Like, before all this internet shit, my mom used to tell me, like, you dissing duck and all that brick and all that shit. how you think I feel about these niggas this and Steve that shit hurt me to death as much as I don't want to look at this shit I see this shit, it come to me and I look at that lady's eyes I look at the internet shit and I feel her pain how tapped in are the parents with what's going on they gotta know someone she's mega tapped in I'm not talking about my mom adult I'm talking even on your end tapped in, my mom better know we make sure our mom know me and Steve been in this shit before like my mom was so strict we had to sneak and do shit so when she found out like we had to really tell her like alright this is what it is like you gotta look out for these people you gotta make sure this ain't there you can't take us there it's to the point when I hopped on OG car she don't let her window down she put that bitch on child lock you better not crack that window yeah yeah yeah speaking of moms I gotta go meet up for my mom's birthday but yo I appreciate you I know you guys got some good shit left.
1:33:47Much love. Big ups, Adam. Yeah, man. So something I thought was interesting, right? You were spending time with young Dolph like a week before he passed, right? I actually talked to Dolph the same day he got killed. It was like 9 in the morning. I was on FaceTime when my guy's screenshots of me and him on the phone. How did that relationship kind of come about? I DMed him one day. I was on some, like... I used to listen to Gucci, man, Dolph, all the legends. I'm like, damn, Dolph lit, but they don't give him his flowers that he deserves. So I DM him, like, keep going, man. I feel like CMG was lit.
1:34:23Everybody looking over the Dolph. And I DM him one day, like, man, keep going, bro. You lit. You got niggas like me from the real trenches like that. Everybody look up to it. We see you, gang. Like, keep doing it. Hey, man, I ain't going to lie. Fuck with that. Ooh, that just helped me. So I tell him, like, man, I got a song I want you to hop on. That want my intentions, but I don't fuck it. I got you right here. I might as well. He sent it to me. Ooh, I sent it to him. He sent that bitch right back and he went crazy on that bitch. He's somebody that I think he's inspired a lot of people. And like, it must've been interesting for you to like, see how he moves and how he was respected at that point.
1:35:01They came to Atlanta. They follow me. I was like two cars deep. They was like 15 cars. I was in the front car. They trailing me everywhere. I went like everywhere. They G wagons, all that shit. They in foreign shit. They following me all through Georgia. You had a show like KOD, all that. It's crazy to think he was moving that military in Atlanta, but then in Memphis. It be like that, gang. I move like that in Atlanta, but when it comes to the rack, certain shit, like certain people fall back, scared, or ain't, you know. I seen where you had said, I don't know the situation, but you said that E-Dawg saved your life or some shit like that, or it was a situation where you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for E-Dawg.
1:35:43Some nigga tried to backdoor you or something like that. No, I don't remember that. I just seen that shit. I probably see half my videos and the old E-Daw made shit. No, you definitely said that shit, but you said it was a situation where, I guess E-Daw looked out for you, or like, you possibly wouldn't have been here if it wasn't for E-Daw. No, I don't remember that. Where? I don't sleep, I don't remember that. All my videos, I used to come to the old. I got my own pipe, but I, man, it's the video. I need guns in the video. No police shit, man. man, I eat. When you at 10, for them pop out, oh, everybody pop out, oh, folks finish shooting video, you know.
1:36:19Why eat props? They props, though. Yeah, but why eat such a liking to you? Where was our relationship? He understood what I was, you know? Yeah. Like, he a real nigga, gang. Like, through all this shit, all this shit I'm bogus for, I'm going to sit here 100 % and say I'm bogus for all this shit I diss for them, but for them bogus, too, it's equal. Ain't no, are you bogus and competition or who better or that shit bogus. Everybody bogus on they part but E gonna always be E again. And he level-headed he ain't gonna pick no sides or something. He gonna pick that's his 100 % E is E again. Like that's what I love folks.
1:36:56How close was you to McAdoo? That's my real brother. I talk to Mac every fucking day before that shit happened. I talk to him the day before that happened if not the same day. Steve Mac called me every now that shit happened early in the morning so the day before that I got video visits with me and Mack on the phone. Did you feel like that was some foul play? Yeah, it was. Really? I know the real story. His mama took home, DJ, you wouldn't. Is that a normal thing in Chicago where the cops or the correctional officers be doing crazy stuff like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We used to have police. We on the block.
1:37:29They pull up, jump out. The dicks think, ooh, they grind you, drop you off on the ops, pull off, make them beat your ass or shoot you. They don't give no fuck. That shit real in Chicago. it's treacherous out there man I heard McAdoo was very respected by the area you know what I'm saying so definitely somebody that obviously had a big impact yeah Mac Mac funny as hell like real character Mac always had his own personality come hop on this man I already know you got something for us come on bro come on out of Philly man cause every time I see Nemo he with you what you got in the bag man tell the people what you got going on It was po from West Philly my brand Cairo Casanova.
1:38:13This is the second time I had to run it back I mean this John for you though game Yeah, love Oh, yeah I'm an adult for real That's the 12th year in my brain. I know you was gonna be up here, but I can't prepare for you still though That's all man for me Thank you man. I have some like all those what to say it right a rabbs or something They read that shit. They was talking to each other laugh I'm like what the fuck they looking at my clothes one day no bullshit They do that for me every day. They was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they do what I mean. They read it out to me. Like, that man. Let's do that shit right now.
1:38:46Yeah, come on, man. Got to show love to the Philly crew, man. You know what I'm saying? See me in this, John. That's there. You said, John. John. That's the big, yo. Come on, man. For the young balls. Nah, we got the Mimo. You said young balls. Come on, man. Get you on your Philly slingers. You know what I mean? So you get it right. We still, we still. I was just going to say that. What's up? What we at? I'm ready to jump out the airplane the Dolphins whatever that shit listen I'm down man I'm down he's talking about jumping out an airplane I don't know if I can jump out an airplane I might have a heart attack in the middle I might need somebody with me to pull that string when I can't I might fuck around and fall out yeah I need that too bro 100 % but that's gonna be lit it ain't no street shit we talk about just the life of the game 100 % that's gonna be lit you know what I really wanna do man and this is something Rima talking about so you know comment if you wanna see this but I wanna take guys that maybe are known for the drill music, but like really show the human side, you know, go out and do something fun.
1:39:39Go out and do something normal. I can do whatever you think. I can cook, fish, swim, fight, shoot, kick it, whatever, gang. I do it all, gang. You be cooking? I've been cooking my whole life since I was 10. I'm 33. You good in the kitchen, yeah? What? What kind of thing you make? What's the specialty on the menu? Oxtails, lamb chocs, short ribs, whatever, gang. I can make whatever. Yeah, you need a cooking show, for sure. I do, but I want to focus on the music. we could do that but I don't want to make my man me and DJU was going to do like a cooking cooking interview but he didn't want to make it strictly like cooking we was talking about all that we had a chef come out while we was doing the interview all that we could have had all that damn that's crazy more 600 questions man you know what's what's kind of like the relationship with Cap obviously he's incarcerated right now right which Cap?
1:40:29Cap fuck 12 no Cap out oh he out? Cap out Cap been quiet for a little bit. That niggas on the floor. That's smart, man. That's smart. That's my real brother, gang. I thought he was going to be in there a little bit longer than that, you know? No. Yeah. For what, though? What you thought he was in there for? I thought he was in there for a little something serious. Hell no. Cap was in there for a pipe. Cap, what you going? I'm at no jump. I don't even know what you mean. Cap, you even talk. Yeah, I chopped it. Hey. Hey, what's good, Cap? How you doing, man? Tell Adam for aint on no boards. What a word, brody.
1:41:08I got you. Yo, we looking for you. I was just asking because I thought you was locked up, but they said you being low-key right now. I'm low-low right now. Man, hey. From Billy, right? Hey, we looking for you. We need you up here, nigga. It's time, nigga. Hey, I'm going to tap in with you. I love everything y 'all doing, man. We appreciate y 'all. I just told him on Steve. We appreciate y 'all. Hey, you know, I'm a... Come of our heart, we appreciate y 'all, man. For real, for real, bro. Appreciate you too, man. I'm doing the trenches right now. Hey, listen, if we do the interview, man, you know I'm going to come with a certified question, man.
1:41:42Ask Mimo about the questions. I'm going to come with a good... You know what I'm saying? Good research. You know how we coming on stage, dang it, man. Oh, yeah, back. Back. Yeah, I already know. I'll tell him I'm in tune with his content. Tell him I'll be saying I know what's going on, but I'm going to be ready in a minute, man. I ain't been ready for no interview. Like, I ain't... Tell him I'm looking for him, man. I'm looking. Come on. We got to line it up. After this, I'm going to get your number. Hell yeah, man. It's going to be legendary. I'm going to send Trabloar a wrong show number. All right.
1:42:11We're going to block it in. All right. I love you, bitch. Love you too, bro. So what was it like you and J-Main doing constant and shit? That was the first time y 'all met in person? Or y 'all knew each other from back in the day? We knew each other, but the first time in person. Yeah. What's it like? It ain't been on Backlash? No. Nah, he funny as fuck. That band's slow as hell. I'm slow, so slow together. Seeing y 'all together, that was good energy right there. I need drunk. What's up, bitch? Snick might need to start a podcast together. Nah, I'm focused strictly on music. I don't want to make my content on straight content.
1:42:52I don't want to be on the rapper gang. Nah, I feel that. Just keep my music going. I'm going to come here and there with this type of shit. what do you think of the whole push in peace movement do you kind of condone that it's cool it's cool it makes Chicago better we lose too many kids I got kids you see how many kids I got my oldest 12 he watching this shit I got younger kids watching this shit they don't want to be my kid don't want to be known for watching my daddy on there when he died you know I want my daddy to be a legend I want to be able to say I want me more 600 daughter I want me more 600 son you know Nah, oh, my daddy died That's the cloud I'm running with Hell, nah You see how happy my brother was to answer the phone?
1:43:34They're saying, no, whatever I do Like, they gonna Even if it's wrong, he gonna talk to me later He ain't gonna get on there and say, oh, hell, nah Fuck all that, tell them who That's why I fuck with Shorty Where my boy Gaddafi at, man, Shark on land He still out, he in my last video Shark, we been I been trying to get Shark up here I don't know what the fuck, then they gonna follow me, all type of shit, man That's cause you probably had more Mimo you probably was I don't know Sharp we gonna get you up here though I'll fuck with Sharp so y 'all good now? yeah yeah it been cool it's just little shit like yeah that was a whole back and forth yeah what uh you still keep up with Just Blow?
1:44:13yeah how's he doing? Blow Blow I got Timo on the phone oh Timo what's the word? hey what's happening man I got Trial Blow I got come on don't get over here tweaking to me hey what you saying We on the positive shit, bro. Like, come on. We on positive shit. Don't get on here tweeting tomorrow. Come on. What's the word, man? What up? What up? Hey, what's good, man? Yo. Hey. I got Trevor Laura Ross and I got Remo on the phone. Adam just walked out. We coming with the positive stuff right now, man. When you popping out to LA? Get with me, man. Get with me. You said what? When you popping out to LA?
1:44:43I'll probably come out there next month. All right, man. I'm going to get your number from Memo. We're going to line it up. All right. Do that. Get with me. All right, man. I'll be up there. we setting it up now. Tell her to hit me. Like, I'm fine. I got you, I got you. I'm fine, baby. All right. So y 'all, you and y 'all still locked in? I'm locked in with everybody. Any nigga that ain't locked in with me on some hating shit or some, you know, cloud chasing. Because he was signed OTL too at one point. And then the dirt. Yeah. This, all that shit. This shit. I remember, I remember. Can you still do backflips and shit?
1:45:15Hell yeah. All that. How you learning how to do that shit, man? Nigga be dancing in airports all the time. That's how I'm flexibility. My flexibility. I'm flexible as hell. Yeah, I need to get some lessons, man. See you doing the front flips. I was like, damn, how does he do that? That shit easy. You make it look easy. So who y 'all feel like we need to be paying attention to right now that's come up out of Chicago? I feel like... Who got it? The Vert. Oh, who got it? Yeah, Vano. Vano, 1700. Shorty lit. Oh, my God. Other than that I don't know T-Ski DC Everybody got they wave But Shorty got it Any newcomers Nigga that we might not know Out here yet What's the little nigga name man I got OG DC My little cousin I got a tap in What's the little nigga name BB Jada Fully Chop Fully Chop Fully Chop He be out here He was coming off a little Weak But Shorty He getting it Yeah I'm full of the world I have you.
1:46:18It's Lilas getting it. Bro, you getting it. I fuck with food. Yeah, no, he is a stand-up nigga. So what's coming next for you? They live, huh? What's coming next for you? What's the vision? Where are we taking things from here with the music? I'm actually in the middle of a production deal where I promote my next album. You know, my label. I got the album right now, 600 Proof. We dropped. Hell yeah. All that shit. And we need a 600 compilation project. We on that too. We on that too. You know what I'm saying? We trying to make it, what? Everybody on the same page. and see what we got going on all that you think about them you fuck with them we need all us to be on the fuck all that outside shit we got going on we need what's going on I wanna see you Breezy Tay all y 'all niggas together man that nigga Tay got the wave right now Tay changed his whole image to the even just the he a blogger now I don't know if he rap I don't know if he rap but even just to see y 'all niggas all come together y 'all should do an interview with that nigga I feel like that'll go up That'll go crazy A lot of guys be recording music in jail You think we'd ever get a little Rondo verse or something like that Or is it too tight with the security in Chicago To get a little recording done I mean yeah Answer the phone We talking about that That's needed man If we get some of the original 600 names back together On a little jail You got the AI recording now We can get a Rondo verse, clean it up, make it sound studio and then they can do it from the you know what I'm saying that'd be crazy that'd be we need a 600 compilation before it's all said and done you know what I'm saying where y 'all y 'all gotta come together and drop some shit for the year maybe next year 2026 then we're gonna get 6-0-0 part 3 yeah might need that definitely need that man alright any questions you got for Ross man cause this we at WAC oh damn you're turning the table for me man yeah I want Cause I know niggas see your shit all the time No I pay attention I know everything Yeah yeah yeah I'm just ready when you ready for that other shit Hey let's make it happen man Remo gonna make the play happen man We're definitely gonna try to show people another side We're definitely gonna do it I hear you For real Let's do it man Fucking we got Trowler Ross in the building Memo Our boy Philly in the building You already know what's going on Make sure y 'all like, comment, subscribe Memo tell the people what you got going on Man you know what's going on It's Memo 600 man go check out that 600 proof right now all platforms go type that shit in we working right now on a production deal I'm finna drop my next album that bitch gonna go crazy shout out Savvy shout out my production team my management team shout out Keno y 'all know what's going on we out here we out this episode is brought to you by ChatGPT Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast.
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