In short
Adam and Wack debate and then Mitchy Slick “schools” Adam on San Diego (Daygo) rap credibility, why the city isn’t as mainstream as LA/Compton, and what San Diego artists need to understand about the music industry (business/industry knowledge, not just talent). They also discuss a past incident involving Compton AD getting beat up in San Diego and share tour/label business stories.
Guests (backgrounds)
- Mitchie Slick: San Diego rapper/“living legend,” long-time figure with industry connections; describes himself as having street credibility and also doing executive/label-style work (marketing, routing, promo budgets).
- Adam and Wack: podcast hosts/figures in West Coast rap circles; Wack is repeatedly referenced as having relationships with artists and executives.
Key claims
- San Diego isn’t “internet rap” and is “game goofy” in industry/business because it’s far from labels/industry hubs (LA/Sony/Interscope).
- San Diego artists often lack industry knowledge, leading to friction and missed opportunities.
- San Diego’s street/gang culture is real (Blood city), but the music business side hasn’t matched that.
- Mainstream success requires industry playmaking and trust; “studio talent” alone doesn’t create breakthroughs.
Notable examples
- Mitchie’s story of Ski Mask being jumped on stage (he believes San Diego dudes were involved).
- Discussion of Rob Stone vs Ski Mask/X (Rob Stone’s big song with massive streams; debate over what’s “biggest” from San Diego).
- Mitchie’s Blueface strategy: leveraging Game’s tour routing and multiple DSP versions/remixes to build momentum before label timing caught up.
- Claims that labels now offer low upfront money (e.g., 30K) and artists expect more.
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Chapters
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0:00 to 0:15
The hosts greet each other and engage in light-hearted banter.
“That's the sound of zero sugar, 200 milligrams of caffeine, and the power to burn body fat.”
Introduction and Banter
0:18 to 1:20
The hosts greet each other and engage in light-hearted banter.
“What if you had one more chance with the one that got away?”
Mitchie Slick's Background
1:20 to 3:30
Mitchie Slick shares his history and relationship with Adam and the podcast.
“You're going to tee off on me about last week's events?”
Misunderstandings about San Diego
3:30 to 6:10
Discussion on misconceptions and perceptions of San Diego's rap scene.
“He's calling me the most professional glazer ever.”
San Diego's Music Industry Challenges
6:10 to 9:20
Mitchie explains the barriers faced by San Diego artists in the music industry.
“Okay, so when I say y 'all got Dago fucked up, this ain't the first time that we've heard people say, you know, little slick shit about San Diego on here.”
The Unique Style of San Diego
9:20 to 12:00
Exploration of San Diego's distinct cultural and musical style.
“And you say it connected to some like...”
Comparisons with Other Cities
12:00 to 14:01
Comparison of San Diego's rap scene with that of other cities and regions.
“that's more vicious than any other neighborhood that I've seen.”
Pomona's Influence in Rap
14:01 to 14:55
Discussion on how King Peele impacted Pomona's recognition in rap.
“And we both know a rapper that's from here, but people don't think about it when you say his name.”
San Diego's Musical Identity
14:56 to 16:04
Exploration of San Diego's hip-hop scene and its perception of talent.
“Yeah, but see, when you think Sugar Free, you don't think Pomona.”
Sacramento vs. Bay Area
16:05 to 17:15
Comparison between Sacramento's struggles and the Bay Area's prominence.
“Frisco, but an hour away is what I'm saying.”
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Industry Challenges for San Diego
17:16 to 19:13
Insights on the challenges San Diego artists face in the music industry.
“We're most definitely overshadowed by the biggest motherfucking damn near rap city on the whole, this whole side of the earth.”
San Diego's Reputation in Hip-Hop
19:14 to 20:28
Discussion about the reputation of San Diego in the hip-hop community.
“Not saying that it ain't no Crips in San Diego, but as much as L.A.”
Rob Stone and Ski Mask Incident
20:29 to 21:41
Recollection of an incident involving Rob Stone and Ski Mask on tour.
“It's a certain artist on a certain tour.”
Understanding San Diego's Gang Culture
21:42 to 24:10
Exploration of the gang culture in San Diego and its impact on music.
“And I pull up, and I'm cool with Rob Stone and Ski Mask.”
Barriers to Mainstream Success
24:11 to 26:18
Analyzing the reasons behind the lack of mainstream success for San Diego artists.
“they not from a gang is Dago too real to make it in this industry, the street part of it is, it'll be some other artists that can make it.”
Future of San Diego's Music Scene
26:19 to 28:00
Discussion on the potential future of music in San Diego and upcoming talent.
“Even though San Diego is a big city, you could kind of say that, yeah, but then Compton somehow has like 10.”
San Diego's Rap Scene and Authenticity
28:00 to 29:08
Discussion on the authenticity of San Diego's rap scene and potential artists.
“I guarantee you it's a bunch of dudes down there.”
Rob Stone's Success and Controversies
29:08 to 30:50
Exploration of Rob Stone's success with his hit record and the controversies surrounding it.
“I'm feeling funny about even coming on this show right now, goddammit.”
Challenges in Signing San Diego Artists
30:50 to 32:49
Insights into the challenges faced when trying to sign San Diego artists.
“When I fired up Cash Money West, I was Dago hunting.”
Understanding the Business of Music
32:49 to 35:30
Analysis of the music business landscape and its impact on artist negotiations.
“any old rapper out the hood by giving him$20 ,000, and now the rappers are getting smarter, and they know that that ain't shit.”
San Diego's Unique Sound and Industry Knowledge
35:30 to 42:01
Discussion about San Diego's distinct sound and the lack of industry knowledge among artists.
“He don't know that in the streets, nigga.”
Mitchie Slick on San Diego's Music Scene
42:01 to 43:28
Learn about Mitchie's experiences and challenges in promoting San Diego artists.
“When I heard that, I can't sign a motherfucker's hood.”
Understanding the Business Behind Music
43:29 to 45:19
Mitchie discusses the importance of business acumen in the music industry and the misconceptions in San Diego.
“I was going to ask how that happened if somebody offered like a, like it wouldn't be a bad thing for Empire to say, we're going to create a division to go down there.”
Defending San Diego's Reputation
45:20 to 47:24
Mitchie addresses misconceptions about San Diego and its gang culture, emphasizing the city's importance.
“If he did, then we'd have a real argument.”
Promoting Local Talent: Eddie Mack
47:25 to 48:46
Discussion on how to elevate local artists like Eddie Mack and the challenges they face.
“This interview right here will open up a lot of the youngsters to a different option.”
Mitchie Slick's Music Legacy
48:47 to 50:58
Mitchie reflects on his past experiences and significant moments in his music career.
“Because you as an OG from San Diego with that San Diego sound, get to propel a young brother like Eddie Mack to the forefront of the world.”
Building Connections in San Diego
50:59 to 52:36
Mitchie talks about the importance of connections in the music industry and potential opportunities for collaboration.
“my direct connect and gang direct connect.”
Lil Wayne and San Diego Collaborations
52:37 to 54:41
Mitchie shares insights about his collaboration with Lil Wayne and the dynamics of their relationship.
“now people are going to say, you know what?”
The Rise of Strong Arm Steady Crew
54:42 to 56:00
Discussion on the formation of Strong Arm Steady Crew and its impact on the West Coast hip-hop scene.
“Can you tell us about how you and Lil Wayne joined forces at that time?”
Origins of the Strong Arm Steady Crew
56:00 to 57:24
Learn how the diverse Strong Arm Steady Crew came together and its connections to other artists.
“Because that's such a diverse group of individuals.”
Touring with Exhibit and Mixtapes
57:24 to 58:50
Discover the experiences of touring with Exhibit and the impact of mixtapes on their careers.
“J-Row was the only what we would consider mainstream artists from Pacoimba.”
The XXXTentacion Incident
58:50 to 1:00:11
Get an insider's account of the logistics and fallout from the incident involving XXXTentacion in San Diego.
“That's the same type of, you know what I'm saying?”
The Challenges of San Diego Artists
1:00:11 to 1:02:38
Explore the unique challenges faced by artists in San Diego and the need for unity among them.
“Nah, what happened was - Lil Homie was on tour, wasn't he?”
Creating Opportunities for San Diego Talent
1:02:38 to 1:08:03
Learn about a new project aimed at uplifting San Diego artists through collaboration and opportunities.
“We can't because we don't have the industry, so we got to figure out how to wiggle through that.”
Identifying San Diego's Top Talent
1:08:03 to 1:10:02
Discuss the complexities of identifying top artists in San Diego amidst local politics and preferences.
“But y 'all got to figure out where we going to end up going to do this with these people to get them back up to the compound.”
San Diego's Scene: Spotlight on Dago Artists
1:10:02 to 1:10:36
Discussion about showcasing various San Diego artists and their contributions.
“It's going to seem like he's playing favorites.”
Wes Watson: Controversial Figure
1:10:36 to 1:11:38
Exploration of Wes Watson's influence in the Dago community and his legal troubles.
“I think he run with the white card when he go to jail.”
Gang Dynamics and Segregation in San Diego
1:11:38 to 1:13:08
Insights on the gang culture in San Diego, including racial dynamics and affiliations.
“But then he did 10 years in prison for robbery, burglary, and violent assault.”
Changes in the Music Industry Over 25 Years
1:13:08 to 1:14:26
Mitchie Slick reflects on the evolution of the music industry since his debut 25 years ago.
“What happened to that dude you interviewed?”
The Importance of Ground-Level Promotion
1:14:26 to 1:16:38
Discussion on the significance of grassroots efforts in promoting music compared to digital methods.
“from inside of your motherfucking computer.”
Game's Impact vs. Tupac's Legacy
1:16:38 to 1:18:42
Debate over the impact of The Game compared to Tupac on the West Coast hip-hop scene.
“That's the type of love that niggas have with me.”
The Opposition Faced by Game
1:18:42 to 1:21:06
Exploration of the challenges The Game faced in reviving West Coast hip-hop after Tupac.
“I remember in the Vibe magazine where it told me one of his conditions was he couldn't say nothing about the police.”
Collaborations and Influence in Music
1:21:06 to 1:24:00
Mitchie Slick talks about his collaborations and their significance in the hip-hop community.
“We're talking about Pac in there with Drake.”
The Family Connection to Music Legends
1:24:00 to 1:25:45
Learn about the surprising connections to legendary artists like Shaka Khan and Gladys Knight through family ties.
“I know I know and I know I got creamed in the comments and they was getting that.”
Discussing Collaborations and Future Projects
1:25:45 to 1:26:45
Hear about potential collaborations between iconic artists like Janet Jackson and Kendrick Lamar.
“I don't know, but shit, it don't matter.”
Controversies and Conversations
1:26:45 to 1:28:42
An exploration of a controversial conversation regarding Moose and Whack's perspectives.
“And then I'm going to put some shit on your ass.”
Examining Division in the Podcast World
1:28:42 to 1:31:40
A discussion about the impact of division within the No Jumper podcast and its implications.
“I was really, I thought really, I said, let me see what the fuck he got on his mind.”
Racial Dynamics and Personal Experiences
1:31:40 to 1:34:03
Delve into the complexities of race and personal experiences shared in the podcast.
“When you hear the big tall white dude from Lancashire, cool as fuck.”
Unpacking Podcast Dynamics and Critiques
1:34:03 to 1:38:00
An analysis of podcast dynamics and the challenges faced by hosts in maintaining authenticity.
“I mean, it's a combination of what I say and what the fans say.”
Exploring the Bro Rogan Incident
1:38:00 to 1:39:59
Discussion about conflicting perspectives around Bro Rogan and Spody's statements.
“Shit started getting different then, right?”
Street Survival and Conflict Resolution
1:40:00 to 1:41:39
Debate on the importance of intervening in street fights and the implications of choosing sides.
“and he goes into a quiet zone, in my mind, I know what comes after that.”
Weight and Power Dynamics
1:41:40 to 1:43:19
Discussion about physical confrontations and the implications of size in fights.
“where I'm not going to just sit by and watch you guys fight.”
Cultural Sensitivities in Conflict
1:43:20 to 1:44:59
Examination of cultural relationships and sensitivities in confrontations.
“So I'm asking you at what point in time are you going to say, yo Moose, you sitting up here, yeah, whack.”
Consequences of Street Conflict
1:45:00 to 1:46:39
Discussion about the serious repercussions of street violence and the stakes involved.
“My last G homie, rest in peace, J-Dawg was killed by a Mexican, not a crib.”
Managing Emotions in Confrontation
1:46:40 to 1:48:19
Insights on handling emotional turmoil during intense confrontations.
“No, because I know if I snap, it's going to lose it all.”
Perceptions of Loyalty and Friendship
1:48:20 to 1:49:59
Exploration of the complexities of loyalty in relationships amid conflict.
“But you look like hella soft, like not standing up.”
Accountability in Public Discourse
1:50:00 to 1:52:00
Discussion on accountability and miscommunication in public statements.
“the Joe Budden podcast are doing an episode with some gangster ass fool.”
Debate Over N-Word Usage
1:52:00 to 1:54:15
The hosts discuss a controversial statement made by a guest regarding the use of a racial slur.
“So I knew that there was some responsibility.”
Weight Loss Challenge Proposition
1:54:15 to 1:55:18
A light-hearted wager is proposed regarding a weight loss competition between hosts.
“And then Doughboy is saying he want to bet you on a weight loss thing.”
Transcript
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0:55Adam22:The genesis of it, yeah. I can't even work with a motherfucker. I got some more. That's going in the game room. What up, though? There's a photo. Oh, okay.
1:10Adam22:Yeah, let's get it. Ready? Adam and Wack. Yeah, you lucky, man. You lucky. I was going to come in and get some practice, you know what I'm saying, on you today. Oh, yeah? You're going to tee off on me about last week's events? That's why you wanted him here. No, you've been on some verbal shit. But, you know, you take advantage of shit. He does. Like what? You know, from the beginning, Adam kind of really didn't fuck with me way back. I know. Right? And then I did a little just to Henry fuck with me. I used to call him by my artist. He wasn't fucking with me. so over time over years him his wife his daughter his pops I don't know that Wack ain't gonna go that far with me he knows that the respect and the brotherhood is genuine now he's the fucking asshole he played on it last week you played on it I sat next to you and I was seeing him Wack calm himself down like Wack was ready to go because as soon as he stopped talking, I was like, he's on go-mo.
2:18Adam22:I thought I was going to call you a glazer during this podcast. No, listen. I'm just going to let him fill in the blank. So then I got to deal with his bullshit. Right. And then he then says, I'm breaking up my Instagram going crazy. Right. Daygo was on. I said, what the f*** did I do to Daygo? And I'm like combing through it. I'm like, what did I tell my exposure? I said, yo, why? They said, yo, Adam went on there and said this. So they sent me the clip. So I addressed it because I understand that pocket. I understand Dago. I've been rocking with him for a long time. The problem, the gift and curse with Dago is that he don't follow nobody's trends.
2:58Adam22:You know how Chicago kicked off the drill right there. Dago was like, we doing us. Okay, we'll come up there if you agree to come down here. If not, we doing what we doing. And there's a lot goes on down there. It's a lot of talent, but they don't come up, right? And I didn't, it's really, out of it being, you know, the Navy, you got the beaches, the border, TJ, right? People don't know about that inner workings of it, so I had to bring one of the voices, prominent voices, I feel, of Dago. Living legend. Mitchie Slick. Come on, living legend. They are sitting right across. Right across. This is why we sit like this.
3:35Adam22:You got to stand on it. Because I ain't got it. Wasn't me. It was the white guy. It was the white guy. I'm going to whack on this one. He's calling me the most professional glazer ever. Every time I say something about whack, he'll be like, you're glazing. You're glazing. I'm just like, what? It must be hard for you to choose who you want to glaze between me and him, though. No. What? If Nick was here, you'd be really like that. No. If Nick was here, you'd be really like that. But you know what's crazy? Nick is here. Yeah. He know Mitchie. Yeah. From Nick. All right, but he's not physically here.
4:07Adam22:Nick, shit. Nick here with us. That's one dude. You think you get favoritism. That dude, Nick. But he earned it. Nick ever tell you no? He's never told me no. He's never told me no. Nick is the homie, man. That's big, bro. The closest I got to know is we're going to work it out. We'll figure it out. He's coming to the Monday show soon. So, yeah, shout out to Nick Cat. Nick, Nick. Nick, tell me whatever you want to do, Slick. Just let me know what you want to do. Adam been over there with Nick. Nick's been over here they got that relationship for better or for worse he inspired me to get this building because I saw his compound I think you know that's when Adam started really realizing alright I think Wack really is f***ing with the movement because everything I was doing I'm like Adam pull up I wanted him to introduce people I knew people I knew that could assist him in what he's doing and that's what I like to do when I build my relationships is like leave an impression that no matter what, it's like, you know what?
5:11Adam22:I may be a little pissed off, but the little fucker does what he's supposed to do. You get what I'm saying? You can leave it down. Yeah, does what he's supposed to do. You know what I mean? I don't want to tell you that I include him. Anything I'm doing, I can include him. I include him in. So he an asshole. I be, you know, he pisses me off. But you know, he like, I hate to say it, I'm the little brother of my brother. So he like my little brother. Right. that to where like, motherfuckers ask him. Yeah, I get it. I totally understand it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so what did I say wrong about San Diego?
5:45Adam22:Let's hop into it. I want to hear the Mixi Slick version of what. He started it. You know he started it. He just told me. I know. He did a post on his page. Yeah. Hey, first off, Adam and everybody else, not being tough or stupid, I'm not one of these, like, homie. Right. But niggas really got San Diego like fucked up though, like for real though. Okay. Like, I know what y 'all see and what's promoted and pushed to y 'all and all that type of shit. And I really don't give a fuck. Y 'all called me to this motherfucker. Stop right there though. I didn't call nobody and say nothing. I called you and stopped right there.
6:16Adam22:That's one of the problems. What is being promoted and pushed? That's the big thing. Okay, so when I say y 'all got Dago fucked up, this ain't the first time that we've heard people say, you know, little slick shit about San Diego on here. And then y 'all tripping off the pushback. Y 'all like, damn, they tripping. See, because y 'all don't really understand. San Diego niggas, delusional as they may be, they think they the hardest niggas in the whole world. They do not think that nobody's harder than San Diego niggas and nothing. But see, y 'all don't know that. So motherfuckers will say shit on this show and don't understand why you get that get back.
6:51You know what I'm saying? It's a few receipts to this shit, but I ain't going to start saying that shit because I love my California niggas no matter where they at. from motherfucking, you know, the Richmond and Frisco and Oakland all the way down, even in IE and Pacoima and all the homies. I ain't going to leave nobody out. But at the same time, we ain't the only motherfuckers that ain't got nobody cracking their rap. Hold on, hold on, hold on. But then the thing is, is when you say shit a certain way, it make it seem like we some busters or something like like we ain't cracking because we ain't dope or we're not cracking because we, and a lot of shit that y 'all will see, y 'all will see what's on the fucking internet.
7:30San Diego's not really no internet rap. And we're like kind of goofy when it comes to business and industry shit. That's why San Diego ain't popping. You feel what I'm saying? So. But explain that when you say goofy. What I'm saying is, because I know you're saying that. Okay, let me tell you. Let me tell you what I'm saying.
7:48There ain't no niggas behind us. That's Mexico. We are far as a motherfucker away from the industry. So far as having the knowledge and know how the industry works, no matter how good we know it, we still going to be game goofy to the niggas that grew up down the street from Sony and Interscope and all that shit. San Diego niggas don't know how the music industry goes. So you will have a situation where not having that knowledge of how the industry really goes, I fuck up a bunch of shit. It might fuck up your business. It might fuck up your business. It might have you beefing with a nigga because you think he did something that you didn't even know.
8:20You don't get paid a million dollars for doing a song with Lil Wayne But niggas think I'm a millionaire because I do this That's not how it goes So you'll have friction behind niggas not really knowing how the industry goes And that's what really keeps the shit from popping Our gang shit is stupid and that's what keeps us from popping And every rapper that you name is somebody that might got a little motion It's one thing you gotta know I'm not gonna say no names Oh yeah San Diego you burnt ass niggas I love y 'all But I'm not saying nobody's motherfucking name today Ain't none of you niggas finna be talking shit about I didn't say your See that's why Dago ain't cracking I'll say 700 motherfuckers niggas names I'll fuck with KT4 And then the 700 and the 8th It'll be Matt So I love all y 'all niggas Everybody that wanna get their props off this motherfucking Interview Put your name in the motherfucking comments And all that shit Look up every Dago nigga Every nigga down there is dope We all You know what I'm saying But Adam when he said what he said, it ain't about what you said, homie.
9:20It's how you said it, homie. And you say it connected to some like... It's a bunch of motherfuckers that ain't cracking, but you ain't gonna say that about them or about them, because on the internet or whatever y 'all will see, y 'all will think San Diego is about some motherfucking magic, I mean, what'd you call it? Sea World and the beach. Man, it's a popping ass, I'll say this, shout out to my to the young homie Ryan, it's a popping ass brand in San Diego. The motherfuckers barely see the beach. We don't go to the beach. We don't see that shit. We don't go to the zoo. I mean, when we little kids, we do.
9:54But to act like San Diego is fucking SeaWorld and in the zoo, I mean, it's other cities around us that got more tourist shit than us. Niggas got Magic Mountain and motherfucking, and the Wax Museum and the stars and shit.
10:08Adam22:You feel what I'm saying? Come on, huh? Okay, so do you feel like San Diego, I know that San Diego is not going to follow any day. They're going to do day-go. Unless you go to San Diego and say, hey, let's do this, and you got to go to the right people, or you ain't going to be able to stay over there long anyway, right? Will San Diego be able to adjust the new noob of today to say it didn't work back in the days staying isolated? because what Adam said, he wasn't wrong. He like, yo, because the only mainstream dude was JL Felony. For a long time. The biggest musical guy, right, as far as I'm concerned, because I know his work, is Mitchie Slick.
10:58Adam22:He done been on songs with everybody. I remember one day when he's like, yo, y 'all going on tour. I'm like, yeah. He's like, I'm like, Mitchie, you're welcome to come wherever. Let me get your spot on the bus. He said, oh, no, homie, don't worry about the bus. Mitchie was in some SUVs, and I swear, we got to the East Coast. Every city we went to, I'm like, damn, who are these people waiting in the front? They was waiting on Mitchie. Right, so that's what I was like. Damn, but why isn't it? It ain't translating. Because, homie, listen, San Diego's not really, like, you know how all the other cities, you got this whole trilogy of videos about everybody's hood and who they big homies was and where they started.
11:35We don't really do that shit in Dago. But why not? That's what I'm saying. I'm just saying, like you said, a blessing and a curse.
11:42Adam22:You need your swamp stories. That's a fact. We need that. We need that. Hold on. So we can get the origin stories. Bro, they got it for all y 'all. I don't know if it's still up. They got a gangland segment. See, you know, I know your history. They got a gangland segment on San Diego that's more vicious than any other neighborhood that I've seen. What? What? Listen, that segment, I think that's what caused you from getting banned or restricted. It was a bunch of shit before. He couldn't even go. Yeah. But then, you know, like back when radio, I swear, I never remember on our radio runs, you know, they tell you got to go here, here, there.
12:25Adam22:I don't remember being like, we got to go to San Diego radio station. But again, it goes back to what Adam was saying. What did you say? what okay the exact quote of what i said to sean cotton and actually honestly like when we were having that conversation was at the very beginning of the podcast where i didn't even really think about the fact that we're being recorded but he said sorry i'm late i'm coming from san diego and i said yeah you know san diego is not uh so much of a music city these days i was like you're probably not going to find a artist to sign down there but then immediately i shouted out little weirdo who i believe is coming on at some point in the near future too so uh where's the weirdo from san diego yeah mexican from out there but uh honestly like i've had the same conversation about a lot of other places in recent memory too like i lived in new york for six or seven years i love new york culturally almost no city or really no city in america is as important to hip-hop as new york because that's where it came from so but we've had that conversation where it's like a couple years ago we were interviewing all kinds of drill rappers from new york nowadays that scene has kind of just fallen apart which largely because you know people got locked up and killed and everything like that but for sure it's not just a san diego thing because even out of la if you wanted to pick out like the top bro it's 10 hoods bro but pick the top 10 rappers out of la in the last five years it's like the la that ain't never had a rapper that's a fact it's a there's a hundred hoods in LA that ain't never had a rapper.
13:57That's the point. So then why we ain't saying slick shit about them, though?
14:00Adam22:No, that's a fact. That's real. I just told somebody that today. I said, bro, I could name a... Listen, I'm going to be real. No disrespect. And we both know a rapper that's from here, but people don't think about it when you say his name. And you know I'm being real saying this because I don't really fuck with this dude. Who? King Peele got Pomona popping. He did. He did. Now we know it's another rapper but when you hear his name you don't think Pomona. Which is our guy. To be fair he got it popping more in the internet social media. Adam people see you first today before they hear you. Now it didn't flip because you can use your visual content to force people to your music.
14:48Adam22:We've never heard Pomona this much in this lane. True. Since King Peel. That's a fact. Now, the homie, everybody know him. He's a hell of a rapper. Right. Our pimp guy. Who? Sugar Free. See? Oh, he's from Pomona? Yeah, but see, when you think Sugar Free, you don't think Pomona. Right. Because Sugar Free don't really be, he not like a Compton rapper street dude coming up. He gonna push Compton on you. He gonna push, Englewood gonna push Englewood on you. Sugar Free didn't. So it's like, I think now it's time because there's a lot of talent down there. it's time, a movement could start. But do they have the open mind?
15:30This is what I'm saying. The reason they don't have the open mind that you're talking about is because San Diego, they think we the shit, like a motherfucker, like with all the shit. Like you been in jail with Dago homies. The niggas ain't acting like they second to nobody or none of that type of shit. So that's the reason why you have that. but they don't understand that it takes for you not to have that to be able to get through the door and that's what I want my young niggas to know and I always told my Dago artists that it's a lot of shit they don't understand and then instead of getting a book and reading and figuring out the answers to this shit they'll just turn their nose up to certain shit you know what I'm saying but
16:06Adam22:can I ask this question cause I'm from Sacramento right and we're right next to the bay and the bay was always bigger than Sacramento so we always had to go next your you're not next to the bay no no no Sacramento was like 45 minutes on the bay 100 miles, you crazy. 100 miles. Frisco, but an hour away is what I'm saying. Nigga, you doing 100 miles per hour? Adam, what's up with you? It's an hour, homie. I'm saying no. No, because every time somebody say they're from Sac, they'd be like, oh, you're from the Bay? They'd be like, no, we're not from - No, no, no, I got to correct you. It's 100 miles from LA to Dago.
16:33Adam22:110, right? So that's the parallel I'm trying to draw. It's a little further. He didn't say in the Bay, he said by the Bay. Right, so we're close, and so we had to act extra hard. So about Vacaville, driving time. Stockton, Davis, all that shit. 1.5 to 2 hours, 85 to 90 miles. And that's the same amount of distance from San Diego to LA. So do you feel like San Diego had to act extra harder because of what LA was doing? You ain't gonna put on no acts. Hold on, hold on, homie. I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about as far as just musically and with the industry shit. Like, how the fuck if all the industry and all the businesses and all the labels and all the shit is in LA, how we post it?
17:10Like, who the fuck gonna let it? We ain't gonna get to the door first.
17:14Adam22:That's the same way we felt in Sacramento. That's the same way we felt. We didn't go to the door first. We're most definitely overshadowed by the biggest motherfucking damn near rap city on the whole, this whole side of the earth. God damn it. We buy LA. Niggas got real deals in LA. That's the same shit we dealt with in Sac. You know what I'm saying? They got real deals. And I'm talking about from a history of rap, they've always had the real deals. If they giving out rap deals and the place that's giving them out is in LA, we ain't the shit we gotta go through to get there then you gotta also understand this in the beginning of the shit like say for instance when I first came in you know I'm in the same generation with say like a right before a game and right in the game G Malone pocket you know what I'm saying it was tricky for us at that time cause you know that's when niggas didn't know where they was gonna get no music money from in the music free online and all that shit that would have been our opportunity when the west was really pumping shit out right then so then you figure like without that period of shining and then shit just falling the off and we like in the shadows of la like how the was we supposed to be able to make some shit happen i'm not knocking and i'm not saying that somebody owes us nothing that's not who i am all that support and all that shit i don't give a about none of that shit motherfuckers don't support the rapper that they listen to they listen to a motherfuckers they like his fucking music not because they want to see a YG, Little Dirk or get some more money.
18:41They listen because that's who they a fan of. You feel what I'm saying? But yeah, homie, like that generation I was in, homie, like nobody really got popping out of that group. You know what I'm saying? I mean, nobody did. That was their chance to shine. So now you've... Hold on. Hold on. Now check it out. Now, niggas don't understand the gang aspect of this shit. San Diego? Come on, homie. That's a blood, straight up blood city. Okay, we were arguing about that. In the minds of the out people, hella Crips in Dago. Don't get it f***ed up. And they with the shit, straight up. You know what I'm saying?
19:19Not saying that it ain't no Crips in San Diego, but as much as L.A. was a key way city, that's how San Diego was. Now, the industry is in L.A. We the nearest big city to L.A. It's a bunch of other cities around, but they're not a major city. So you already know what's going to happen with Dago. We got a brotherly camaraderie going on with everything. Right. So Bloods, the industries in L.A., San Diego camaraderie, I mean, you know, little bullshit. How the fuck?
19:53Adam22:Wait, I have an important question, though. Did you feel like it was a bad look or a good look for San Diego when Compton AD got beat up by the security guards in San Diego. You knew he was going to do it. You knew he was going to do it. We talked about San Diego a lot after that. We did. Check this out, homie. I don't know what happened. I didn't see the whole fight. But I know downtown niggas be rumbling. Sometimes it be your night and sometimes it might be. And you just get up and go back the next week and just rumbling. That's how we came up around that motherf***er. I'm going to tell you a story, Adam, that you probably forgot about.
20:28Adam22:Well, you probably know the end of work is I called you. I get a call. It's a certain artist on a certain tour. This big artist, which which is one Adam. Adam loves this artist is is handling this one artist crazy. Oh, I look at the roster. I look at the routing. I say, hey, I get on for a bro. Y 'all got to touch Dago in like five days. Tell dude to pipe down. He's talking about X and Ski Mask. Bro, dude got on the phone. Right, because I get the call from down there. And he talking crazy. Like, bro, ain't nothing. I said, ain't nothing what? I said, all right, I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
21:11Adam22:I'm going to withdraw, and I'm going to let you figure it out. And that's when Triple X get knocked out on the stage. Right, so, okay. Just to fill in the details for the people. Fill in the holes for us. Rob Stone gets into it with Ski Mask on tour. We only got to go with all the details. But basically Ski Mask is drunk and being kind of a dick to him or whatever, being disrespectful. And then X hears about it. X hops on Twitter, I think it was, and basically just violates Rob Stone, talking hella shit about him. And then fast forward, like, I think because this is before X got punched in the face.
21:46Adam22:But Ski Mask is playing in L.A. And I pull up, and I'm cool with Rob Stone and Ski Mask. So I say what up to Rob Stone. But Ski Mask is nowhere to be found. so I'm sitting in back and I do kind of I look around and I see a bunch of guys wearing red and I'm thinking like all right but I'm like hella not getting knowledgeable at the time so I'm just looking around whatever and but there's a tv so we can see and then all of a sudden boom Ski Master's on stage he's performing just him and one homie and I'm like oh okay like he he didn't make his way through the backstage area but he's performing okay and then as I'm like sitting there looking at the TV, all of a sudden, just a flood of dudes just run up on the stage and just start whooping them.
22:27Adam22:I kind of like ran out there. And the only thing I really got a chance to see. Where you think them dudes was from? San Diego. And I do. Presumably. I believe I saw him there. Hey, yo. I think he was there. I tried to tell him. Were you there? I'm trying to tell him like, yo. I'm like, listen. Because I don't be knowing what people be thinking. Yeah. You know, my celly in prison for two and a half years. That was a little nigga. I didn't do nothing to that. No, yeah, my study for two and a half years was Big Crunch, Big Sad from Five Nine Brim, Dago. You know what I mean? Right. So I got a chance to hear a lot of Dago history on the yard with him.
23:00Adam22:And he right. Like, them dudes, they think they the swolest, strongest. Toughest. Like, ain't nothing about them minimized when it comes to them. You know what I'm saying? But we ain't on the internet doing that shit, so them motherfuckers think it ain't nothing but SeaWorld and the ball animal park. I fit sandwiches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But listen, I'm not bragging this shit because L.A., I.E., them niggas is my brothers, homie. Straight up. Everybody know I fuck with niggas from Bonthon, Inglewood. Everywhere. Everywhere. So it ain't that. I'm not looking at it like it's Dago in L.A. I'm looking at it when I say these things like we write all together.
23:40Homie, from Eazy-E to the homie, shout out to Corrupt, Snoop, to every nigga that came to Dago, they done rumbled in Dago, homie. everybody homie since back in the 80s my nigga you know what I'm saying everybody it's a city full of knuckleheads but they not on the internet with the shit and if you understand all the rappers in San Diego that's popping that's on the top of that it's one thing they got in common and I love it but none of the main Dago rappers as far as views and shit like that they not gang members they not from a gang
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24:12Adam22:is Dago too real to make it in this industry, the street part of it is, it'll be some other artists that can make it. But I'm saying the homies, you know, like the shit that built Death Row, the shit that built TDE, the shit that built Motherf*****
24:32Cash Money West, the street element of it. You know what I'm saying? That part, San Diego niggas, the hustlers, the niggas that would be in your position, would be in a Shug position, that would be in a top position. Them niggas don't want to put no time in the music and money in the music and shit. We do other shit in Dago. We're not a, like you said, we're not a music city. Really, niggas in San Diego is athletes and shit like that. Gang members and athletes. Like, the best athletes in the world.
25:01Adam22:But they're trying to do music. It's a lot of rappers down there. No, it's hella rappers in there. But I'm saying, it's just the rappers. If it was just Kendrick, it took a team of niggas to make that shit happen. In San Diego, the only niggas that's really into the music shit is niggas that rap. Let me ask this. Why do you think, and I say this respectfully and with the utmost respect, that we haven't had like a big mainstream success artist come from San Diego? Because in California, there's so many rich people, I mean rich in the music industry. Why haven't we had like a mainstream success come from San Diego?
25:34Adam22:Stocking had a breakout. Yeah. Sacramento with Mozzie. I'm going to tell you why. Them niggas had breakouts though. No disrespect to they talent. Niggas is talented. Okay. But niggas be living and thriving off of that drama-ful bullshit. You know what I'm saying? Right, okay. You know what I'm saying? That killing and all that type of shit. So a lot of niggas got attention. And the main niggas, if you know, they got attention from them type of records and that type of funk and feud and beef and shit. So, you know. Yeah, internal. Yeah. The truth is that there are, like, even throughout the whole history of California rap, there hasn't been that many huge stars.
26:10Adam22:So when you really break it down by a city-by-city basis, it's like the fact that you haven't necessarily seen a huge national star come out of San Diego is not really that surprising because you could kind of say that. But Jordan is Compton. Even though San Diego is a big city, you could kind of say that, yeah, but then Compton somehow has like 10. Yeah, but that's just them having to connect. They cater to them. If it wasn't for Snoop, we probably wouldn't talk about Long Beach as being as significant as it is. But look what it took. It didn't take just the rapper. Right They're not just rapping And then going to get a deal For something No all the niggas That's popping from the west That got those movements going It's they big homies Or somebody from LA In the streets That you know Put the It's a whack That's what I say A whack A shug A top dog A Dre That easy All that shit was street oriented It wasn't just the niggas That rap It was the niggas That do business And wanted to do rap business In San Diego The only rap business For a long time The youngster's Is rapping they don't know the industry that's why I say the business they got the music where do we go from here so what I'm saying is this listen man it's hella kids down there that want to favorite artists in San Diego but it's hard to compete if they gotta compete with a nigga that got a real deal and that's what it's been so what I'm saying to all the niggas that might wanna look at a new zone where you can make some millions of dollars it's a whole city full of motherfuckers is open to some motherfuckers that want to come in and do some business straight up.
27:42Like I said, they going to put all their names in the comments and all that shit right there. It's hella niggas.
27:47Adam22:It's definitely wide open. You know what's crazy about? It's not because they busters or it ain't because they're just lame or none of that shit. That ain't why we ain't popping. It ain't because of that. You know how you do those when you be talent search or you got Doughboy? Mm-hmm. Right? I guarantee you it's a bunch of dudes down there. Not saying you should do it, but if you just did like it, it might be crazy. Yeah, like an American, Like in San Diego only, we want to see who's down there, who's going to show up. And guess what? Because if nobody shows up, we don't want to hear it. We don't hear it no more.
28:18Adam22:But if 20 of y 'all show up, and I'm like, yo, San Diego niggas don't show up. Some of y 'all kind of talented. I've been to some rap shows in San Diego over the years. Back in the day. No, yeah, that's what I'm saying. No, y 'all need to just go to the hoods of San Diego and grab a homie and watch that movement. That's what I'm talking about. That's what built L.A. homies. Homie types. I ain't saying exclude the other n****s that rap about other shit or that ain't for no hoods. Now you got to see, because until you showcase that, motherfuckers ain't really going to respect the city because they think the city is some other shit.
28:51There's probably San Diego hood vlogs going around, right?
28:53Adam22:I don't know, bro. I like to do so much of this shit. I mean, if it is, Adam is like... No, it don't get the real shit. It don't get no boobs. It ain't the real shit. If somebody else doing it on set, it ain't the real shit. It's the bullshit. Because n****s know, you fuck around and do the wrong shit on there, them San Diego's gonna fuck you up. The homies are... I swear, I don't even... I'm feeling funny about even coming on this show right now, goddammit. What the fuck am I gonna say? Who's gonna say something about what I said about... I know I'm finna... But at the same time, I'm gonna represent for the city, homie, and let niggas know.
29:24Yeah, we ain't got no super whatever, whatever, but you did make a lot of statements that was incorrect, because ain't none of them records you was naming salute to every... They ain't got no record bigger than Ralph Stone. Yeah, white boy. What records? Yeah, white boy. What's up with that? The record that got a billion, a billion, a motherfucking billion streams. That record killed Bill. Okay, but what's bigger than that? No records. Right. Shit. Who the f*** got a billion streams?
29:51Adam22:Well, he stole that record. Is that the biggest record out of San Diego ever? Possibly, shit. That's crazy. I mean, I don't know nobody else who would have a billion. Why are you saying he stole it? Because he didn't have that sample? Well, friends, you didn't talk to Stan about that. You should have brought that up. You were slipping. I'm talking about Rob Stone. No, I'm not. No, he didn't steal nothing. I'm saying if he got a billion streams, that's what you're saying he got? Like a mother... There's a sample. All the streams. But that's just like on YouTube. I'm talking about all together. It's probably like a couple billion streams on this one.
30:20Damn.
30:21Adam22:Okay, so where did he go from there? What's the next step? Movement for a little while, but I feel like it kind of cooled off at some point. He watching his words now, huh? He don't want to say the wrong thing. I mean, but it's in his face like last week. Also, that song has 566 million views on YouTube, which is insane. Now, me and Rob Stone were kind of arguing in the DMs the other day. I ain't tripping on him, though. I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. I just said Rob Stone had a big song. He did an interview, and then it's been a while, and I ain't really heard anything. He was not feeling that.
30:51Adam22:He didn't like those remarks. I will say this. When I fired up Cash Money West, I was Dago hunting. This is how I came across the KT forums and people like that. Right. But it was kind of like, I ain't going to lie. They was playing hardball with the business. Because I don't think they understood the business. Getting the lawyers involved and all that. No, it wasn't that. Because when I was at, I told them I was giving dudes back. KT, my little nigga. And I was telling them, like, bro, I want to put majority of the money into marketing you. Because I'm finding you. Because I know what's down there.
31:28Adam22:Right? But in they head, they were saying crazy. They're like, yo, we want a half a million. What? Why? But because they've been hearing these other numbers from these other people, they're like, well, shit, if he got$5 million and$10 million, I'm good for a half a million. I said, I tell you what, how about we give you a half a million dollar budget and I give you$100 ,000 out that budget for your pocket and this other four go towards producing the album, shooting your video. He know, all right, go. I got to move you around the country, radio runs, promo, all this type of stuff. And they was just playing hardball.
32:07Adam22:It was crazy. It was nuts. So then one dude said, well, how much would you offer LA artists? I said a quarter million. I was real with it. And when I told him that, oh, he said, oh, you got me f***ed up, nigga. There you go. Straight up. Right, but he's not understanding. and Adam was like, it's a different vibe. It's a different conversation. But what's going on right now? You watch Blueface was running around on the roof of his own car. He had his buzz going, I got to get you there. So that extra$150 is going to go into getting you to where he's already at. Okay, but it's part of the problem that you are used to being able to just sign any old rapper out the hood by giving him$20 ,000, and now the rappers are getting smarter, and they know that that ain't shit.
32:57Adam22:I never gave a rapper 20 grand. I know. I feel like that used to work on rappers a lot easier. And now rappers know how much money they can make in the industry. So when a label is like, here's 30K, they're like, 30K ain't a big deal. No, no, they're doing that now. Today, that's what they're doing. Labels? Yeah, for sure. Bro, I'm going to be real. Somebody told me, I ain't going to tell you who, our guy, Lefty Gunplay, after receiving his Grammy, went to a label. They offered him 30K. Bro, it's crazy now. It's nuts now. They ain't, bro, times when a guy get 2 million, he had a dog fight to get 350, 500, and that's to do the whole, everything.
33:44Adam22:It's nuts now, but back then, bro, if you are underground artists, and the money I'm telling them is for their pocket, I'm giving you this for your pocket. I still have to do all the other stuff. So they give me a budget so I'm like shit where is he weak at? So automatically I gotta move him around the country. First I gotta start in the regions. You know what I'm saying? And it's easier being in front of the west coast to tie him into somebody down south and then bring him back. Because once the south start claiming the west coast dude then the west coast dude start claiming him. Yeah. Straight up.
34:23Adam22:Right, but now I got to go down there and leave him down there for a month. I got to put you in a room. Wasn't no Airbnb's back. I got to put you in a room. You know what I'm saying? Get your little car security. Put you in studios. Find an artist down there that's popping that don't mind cosigning you. Don't you feel like you got to get him hot on like a local level first? Well. Who else you do that play with, homie? Huh? Who else you run that play with? What? That same play. Like when you took him, got him, you know, artist. I did that play with Blueface. I did that play with True Car, Savvy 3rd.
34:59So the only niggas you couldn't get that off with was San Diego. They was playing hardball. I asked them. And I ain't going to lie. I swear to God. They was playing hardball. I ain't talking about JT. I'm talking about. They was playing hardball. I brought other executives to San Diego to do business with artists. And they went other places. They can get shit done. And they couldn't get it done in San Diego. It's real. I'm telling you. But what I'm saying is, it's only because of the lack of knowledge, homie.
35:24Adam22:They don't know. They just don't know, homie, because they not in the industry shit. They in the street shit. You know what I'm saying? You won't know that because if you watch just the internet, you're going to hear and only know what Adam knows. He don't know that in the streets, nigga. Go to the jail and see who they bumping amongst. You know what I'm saying? Mitchie Slick, you feel what I'm saying? Go to the penitentiary all over this motherfucker. But not that that's worth this or that, but I'm saying where we come from, that shit's worth something. So when you say shit like that, they're going to take it a certain way.
35:57They haven't left that old mentality.
36:02Adam22:That state of mind. The music is popping, but the business is not caught up. How would you expect any artist from two hours away to understand the game as well as the cast that's right here by the game? You feel what I'm saying? like another LA artist or artist for Compton might have understood that play he was trying to remember. Hell yeah. He done heard. His homie ran the same play. He went and asked his homeboy, hey, check it out, what you call it? Because you know, it's a bunch of dicks that ain't got deals around here. How'd that go? Wait, wait, wait. Oh yeah, that might have worked. I mean, I had a deal similar to that.
36:31We don't have no reference. Think about it. We got no reference? Think about it.
36:35Adam22:Because you was a Blueface fan, right? I was. Now. And now. Now, right? To this day. And I'm not taking none from nephew, right? But I signed him in like September. I was working Sappy Third. He went to jail. I got him out. And then November when he went back, the PO told me, we putting a hold. You can't bail him out this time. I called Blueface in November. Because I told him, look, Sappy Third up first. Higgle your bag. Keep doing what you're doing. We're going to plug into you. I said, dude, go. You ready? Now, follow this. November. I call Cash Money and say, hey, I'm ready to go on Blueface now.
37:26Right?
37:27Adam22:He said he got some new music. I said, yeah, but I'm not tripping this new music. I went through his old music, and there's a song on here I want to remix. Bro say whack. Everybody shut down. I said, bro, I got to go now. He said, Wack, do what you got to do. You got my blessings. A lot of people don't realize this. So while we had Cash Money West, I took, I went to E1, took Tatiana, a song that had been out seven months before I even knew this artist, and started Lyrical Lemonade-ing it and remixing it. Lyrical Lemonade, remix, YG. Lyrical Lemonade, remix, Cardi B. Right? Then I had his own version.
38:12Adam22:Then I put them together. so I had like five or six DSPs of one song. By the time the label came back to work late January, Blueface was gone. Boom. Without that shit, it's a good chance everything else wouldn't have happened for him. I turn around, I'm touring game crazy in Europe and one thing people that don't know me, when I do my tours, I do them day by day. I don't go to the agencies, right? So when I was booking games tour, I'm like look I come to your market but I got this new artist need to follow in four months. What no way fucking Blueface was supposed to be in Europe the first six seven months that don't happen but I'm using the leverage of game for them to cross book Blueface.
38:57Adam22:So it's to look at him you know what I'm saying like what the fuck is in Europe? From that endorsement deal start coming and then all the other shit you know shit got involved other shit and whatever happened happened but again if he wouldn't have did that deal when he did it I wouldn't have been in position. That quote had Cole Bennett. QCP was managing Cardi. Right. All my ducks is in order. Cardi loved me as a person because I knew her prior to. So these things was able to happen for him, which led to what it is today. So sometime, bro, you know it. Yeah, absolutely. When Adam brought you in, he didn't tell you, hey, here go this big contract.
39:35Adam22:He said, come sit at the table. I'm going to do another show with you. Yep. So now let's see where that goes. People may look at you like, oh, you a fool. But a couple months from now when that shit then blew up, we're just going to blow up. Right? Then somebody would say, well, shit, I should have did that. Sometimes you got to sacrifice. Hey, bro, if you do what you did for Blueface for any, for San Diego, it's a nigga in San Diego that you could do that for, homie, and he'll go up. Trust me. Yeah, but the niggas, they broke. I wanted to ask this question. Do you feel like, okay, because in the fractions of California, like you got up north in the Bay Area, they got their own sound.
40:17Adam22:You got Southern California, they got their own sound with LA. You on a good topic. You on a good topic. Do you feel like San Diego has their own distinctive sound out of the other shit that goes on in California? Hell yeah. Okay. But the thing is, is that that's not the ones that's popping. The Dago sound is not the artists that are popping. It's not because it's not popping either. it's just that uh like I said I didn't want to say no name I have to go but I'm saying no there is a Dago sound but a lot of the artists in San Diego don't understand that you know that's what it'll take to make it pop you know they trying to do what everybody else the poppin' shit because they done tried all the shit they don't know what the answer is they think that might be the answer they might think it's the music it's not the talent it's not it ain't got nothing to do with the talent that ain't why Dago ain't poppin' Dago ain't poppin' is because lay a play like that for a San Diego artist and then you'll see what happens.
41:10Adam22:Yeah, but see, in order for me to lay the play, they gotta be with it. They can't be playing hardball. They gotta be with it. Are you with the Jicks or not? You know what? In defense, there's other artists in LA. What's his name? Ruchi? R.J. R.J. was still tied until he was dealing with his thing where he had going on with Mustard, right? Right. But I hit Ruchi. Ruchi was one of the first dudes I hit because he didn't know I knew his daddy. Me and his daddy did time together. Taco. Much love to the homie Ruchi. Ruchi and them remade one of my songs. Salute to your homie. Taco had been expediting and shit.
41:45Adam22:You know what I mean? Back to El Salvador or whatever. I knew that was the homie's son. When I reached out to Ruchi, watch this. I offered him a bag, but he said, I got to tap in with my homies. When I heard that, I can't sign a motherfucker's hood. I can't do that type of business because that's telling me you gotta talk to somebody else this person that person that's one thing about Blueface Blueface is Blueface you know what I'm saying Blueface is gonna run his own ship so I reached out to him before I even reached out to Blueface because he had a buzz going so I just kind of think you right it's just like people don't have the knowledge of and they don't trust so that's what I'm saying not having the knowledge leads to not trusting I done tried to do a lot of shit with a lot of San Diego artists You know what I'm saying On a major level Shout out to the homie TK Over there Art Baron I brought damn near the whole Everybody The whole crew He introduced us too Yeah he did I brought the whole crew of Dago artists I already did this I brought every artist that had a buzz in San Diego To the studio Let them work with Ron Ryan and them and all this shit Brought TK in And for whatever reason I'm not finna get into all that they just didn't really understand how I was supposed to go.
43:05You know what I'm saying? They didn't understand that TK and them came down there to see me shine. Right. You understand? Then you put the light on them. Come on now. And when I say me shine, I don't mean me shine as an artist. I mean me shine as the executive. We done did business together. These are my homies forever. I've been f***ing with TK and them for 20 years. Yeah. So when they reached out to San Diego, it was, Mitch, we're going to get you popping. It's time for you to be executive and do your shit. And so I tried to bring that together.
43:30Adam22:I was going to ask how that happened if somebody offered like a, like it wouldn't be a bad thing for Empire to say, we're going to create a division to go down there. Let's find some talent in Daco. He did it with Detroit. It was the time Ghazi was, Ghazi would have started every damn artist in Detroit. Ghazi, my brother, man. You get what I'm saying? That might be a conversation. Hey, I had the first physical CD distributed on Empire. Me and Ghazi walked to lunch every day and chopped gang before that shit went crazy. Ghazi even tried to do this shit with me. Lightweight, you know what I'm saying?
44:07But when I tried to bring it back home, how Ghazi laid it out was this. And you're going to be familiar. He said, Slick, we'll get you popping. I mean, we'll get them going. I'm telling about this artist. I'm telling about that artist. He like, yeah, homie, they're dope as fuck. Right after you, right after we get you popping, then we bring them along. You know what I'm saying? And that's every label I ever went to said that about any artist I ever brought. You had the buzz, though. Any artist I ever brought. See, but San Diego niggas think like, I didn't do that. You feel me? Because it didn't materialize into nothing.
44:42And that's only because I didn't understand the business. I ain't knocking my brothers. All I'm saying is get in the motherfuckers. Quit worrying about just the studio because it ain't the most talented niggas that's popping. That's not who's popping. The most talented niggas is not the niggas that's popping. and in San Diego a lot of the homies think that that's why they jumped on y 'all because I understood what Adam was saying. I don't like how he said it but I understood what he was saying. The story of all life. You know what I'm saying? Like he's saying.
45:09Adam22:Extra security at the building these days. It's about numbers y 'all. At the end of the day it's about numbers. The only shit that this motherfucker understands is numbers. That's it. That's it homie. That's it. Right. He didn't say, you niggas can't rap. Right. If he did, then we'd have a real argument. But that ain't what he said. And so what I'm saying is, all right, you just, and a lot of people think you a Dago hater, though, too, though, Adam. They think I'm just a hater. Just a straight Dago hater. I'm Dago, yes, you. I don't know why I ain't ever think that. It's good for your ass. But I'm going to tell you what it is.
45:44It's because y 'all loosely throw Dago around sometimes, but y 'all don't really understand, like, Dago is the importance of San Diego niggas in the streets. Y 'all don't really know that because it's not on the internet.
45:55Adam22:I remember the last time that you were summoned to the podcast to defend Dago was because I can't remember who, but somebody basically said that San Diego was soft or pussy or whatever. Who said that? The Mexican homie, the one that was AD. And I brought him to Dago. And I brought him to Dago. The homies was. He said that? He said some shit. Duno said that? That was a long time ago, but I guess. Hey, them Dago essays be bought today. Tear some shit up, yeah. Ain't that soft about Dago? I have no knowledge of how gangster San Diego is. We know you don't. We know you don't. We know you don't. I don't think I've ever commented on such a thing.
46:32That's cool, though. But I didn't come here to explain this to you. I came here to use your platform to explain it to all the motherfuckers that you influence. For sure. Because you will have them f***ed up thinking that Mitchie Slick walk around acting like he tough for no motherf***ing reason at all. like where I'm from ain't like it wasn't Dago niggas when they first kicked the Damu shit off and the pin and all that shit like it was Dago niggas at that table day one straight the fuck up though you know what I'm saying straight up they mentioned them go look at all them old shits they're naming Dago homies and I'm not saying I'm glorifying that but I'm saying I know that's what y 'all used to judge whether we can say slick shit about this city or not y 'all just don't understand Dago and how we feel about Dago like it's not We might be delusional about some rap numbers and some shit, but we're not delusional about the gangsta shit and the motherfuckers being busters and all that shit.
47:24We're not delusional about that. So is San Diego open to people like - This interview right here will open up a lot of the youngsters to a different option.
47:38Adam22:I'm going to be real. You know DC Baby Dranko been in jail a couple weeks. Yeah, what's up? Yeah, he really locked up. Somebody hit me from his DM. Somebody just hit me saying that they want me to interview the girl that he allegedly got pregnant while she was not 18. Hey, listen, man. Ain't nobody bigger than the content. I just went and got the paperwork they told me to get. That's what it is. That's what it is. But he in there for some... What the fuck is it? So while he's looking this up, let me ask you this question, Mitch. One of my favorite records from you recently was Keep Up the Name.
48:13Adam22:And I forget the young brother that was on the record with you. Come on, man. That's the type of nigga that don't get the shine. And so when I hear that record. That's not a nigga you're going to say ain't dope. Fuck it. Shout out to my nigga Eddie Max. So let me ask you this question. So when I hear that record, that felt like a real San Diego feel type of record. And it felt like you was trying to bridge the gap from the older generation to the next young nigga. So what is holding back a cat like Eddie Mack from getting that one that'll pop him across the world? Because when I heard that record, I was just like, I listened to that record several times.
48:46Adam22:I was just like, why isn't a nigga like Eddie Mack on the map like this? So what can we do? Because you as an OG from San Diego with that San Diego sound, get to propel a young brother like Eddie Mack to the forefront of the world. This shit is about having button pushers. It's about having a nigga next to you. You know the record I'm talking about that I'm talking about to keep up the name? Listen, man. And I love that video. The visuals is crazy. A nigga like Wack can push a button and make everybody at least in your city and all the five neighboring cities know who you are overnight. Right.
49:19You know what I'm saying? We're from San Diego. There's not a... Didn't nobody that could push a button went to no high school or related to our relative or nothing. So you're going to get a lot of that shit when you're in the industry type of areas and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? All it's going to take is somebody to push the button and people to put the light on Eddie Mack. I think you might have to be the man to do that. Do you know about this Eddie Mack kid?
49:42Adam22:He's dope. He's fire. We might need you. We might need you for that. Listen, Adam, that's that little chick that was with him at the fight thing. You're talking about something different. So we need a nigga like you to take a young nigga like Eddie Mack to the next level because when I heard the record, I'm like, I hear the potential. He from Brims. Fire 9? Fire 9. I'm telling you, that Keep Up the Name record and the way they shot the video, I was like, why isn't this young nigga a star? And that sound... He did what he can do. What he's saying, he did what he... Man, it's a lot of legendary shit in history come out of Dago.
50:18Adam22:I watched a Dago nigga slap the shit out of Suge Knight. Shout out Ta-Ta from Emerald Hills. Slack, man. A nigga slap Suge? What? Nigga, let me tell you something, bro. Hey, listen. You got to remember, I didn't did it. Rest in peace, Charlie Bo. the Nick Mo Bang 7-Up. Straight up. Lonnie. Come on. I didn't get it. You know what I'm saying? I didn't get it. These are my big brothers you name it right now. I'm the only one like me from those eras that's still here sitting on this type of shit. Right. Can't nobody, you know, the shit I didn't seen and witnessed and I know about, nigga, you wasn't around.
50:53Adam22:You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's some real deal things that come from that. And if it wasn't for my direct connect and gang direct connect. Right. You will have people and I'll be watching the plays because they know we close to certain people. They'll try to take something and start up some bullshit. Game had a song. Right. And he was referring to Lincoln, the president. Right. But he used the word in front of it. Right. All of a sudden it went up. Right. So I'm getting the call. I'm like, like, what this Lincoln? I said, bro, you first of all, gang love you to death. and you know I love the homie too that's my nigga no matter what nobody say that's my nigga you know nigga y 'all my comrades right so when I go listen to the song and I'm like man he talking about the president but right I don't want it no more listen because the relationship was so strong nobody bit right but I've always sat back and thought about cause it's a it's an untapped market would anybody if I can go down to Dago and break an artist in that market as a rapper on some podcast shit, reality show shit, which we definitely probably could do that.
52:07Hey, twin, we over
52:08Adam22:here chopping game. Twin hit me up yesterday. If I can do that, anybody does that, they won't be the man in Dago. Because at that point in time... Tyree, little Tyree Robinson just hit me yesterday about a song. It'd be a great look for Adam to go down there and just do a hood vlog. And really turn it up. That shit would be crazy like to go down there because you said what you said. Mitchie pulls up, let you know. I hear what you said. I don't like how you saying it. But the fact that you would take the time out your day to drive down there, now people are going to say, you know what? I'll do it.
52:41Adam22:Adam ain't tripping. He just did know. You come. That ain't a problem. You're the ultimate hood pass. That ain't a problem. The homie Beezle right here with me and shit. You got to go to some Mexican hoods down there. Listen, for all y 'all that got a problem with the word checking in, I tell people this. I don't know where y 'all come from. Right. I check in with my homies when I'm coming today. Do you not know a week or so ahead of time when I'm coming to Dago? On everything. I checks in. Right. Because sometimes it'll be, black, don't go to that other spot you go to because it's hot or this been going on.
53:16Adam22:They know what's going on in their junk. I don't know why people think that's some pressure shit. I checks in. Just to be like, hey, I'm here in your backyard. Am I good? Tell me where to go, where not to go. That's just proper protocol. He didn't came to my backyard. He came straight to Pacoima. On some real shit. You know what I'm saying? And the love he give me, I overextended back. But Mitchie been coming through all these. He kind of like Mozzie kind of. I think Mozzie studied Mitchie. Because the shit I watch Mozzie do, everywhere he goes, it's kind of how Mitchie was doing. Right. Move correctly.
53:49Adam22:But I mean, I really think motherfucker can go down there and do some hood vlogs because it's like people really think that people don't like Dago. So I think people just don't know. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because if Adam go down there and witness some shit and meet a few people, hear a few people, see a few people, some personalities, some characters, now he has a different conversation because he's in touch, he's in tune. Yeah. He didn't know about rolling 60s like that until Britt came up here and was damn near living with him. He knew it existed. Pause. He knew it existed. But I don't think you, you know what I'm saying?
54:23Adam22:You really wasn't engulfed in it. Hey, we got to take in the trigger ration station. Oh, yeah. We got to take him to Trigger Ration Station, homie. This is the hand guy right here, homie. Hey, this is the 25th anniversary, Trigger Ration Station. This right here kicked it off. Damn. E-40 on that thing, Yuck Mouth on that thing. It's crazy. All right, so let's get this clip. What's happening, man? Can you tell us about how you and Lil Wayne joined forces at that time? Because in my head, I'm imagining, like, he comes to San Diego, he's a blood. It was a minute. He taps him with you. It was with Menace.
54:58What were you all doing? Him and Menace got an incredible relationship. Me and Lil Wayne don't have no real relationships. Shout out to the homie like that. No, that was through Menace. I fucked with him good nigga and all that shit, but Menace did a good favor for the homie, you know what I mean? And his appreciation for that was shown by doing the record for us. And at the time, Menace was freshly coming out, you know what I mean? And he wanted to have his best street nigga that was a da mu and his best industry nigga that was a dog rule. And it was right before Weezy was finna go to go to the jail where he went to the pen or where he went to.
55:32Yeah, I think it was right before that.
55:33Adam22:Yeah, he had to go to New York. Blood niggas. That was a fire record. I'm talking about that video drop and the next week that nigga was in jail. You know, so he set it up right. Shout out to the homie though. Yeah. I got love for the homie for doing that for some niggas because most niggas on that level. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, they don't. You know, one thing about that whole Cash Money crew, they on that level, but when you meet them in person, they don't make you feel like that. You know what I'm saying? Them niggas like, yo, let's go to the liquor store and get a bag of chips. You know what I'm saying?
56:02Adam22:Absolutely. Real shit. You know what I'm saying? Let me ask this question. The Strong Arm Steady Crew. How did that come about? Because that's such a diverse group of individuals. How did that group even come together to build that powerhouse on the West?
56:21That was Exhibit's group. Which was a part of that, right? For sure. Right, right, right, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Did Big Reese play a part in that? Big Reese played a giant part in that. My story is kind of long, but we'll go fast. I met Sir Jinx through Reese. Reese met Sir Jinx through DJ Jam. Shout out to my big brother, DJ Jam. Legendary, legendary DJ amongst all DJs. Tell him it ain't no f***ing town in San Diego. He'll f*** around here. DJ Jim ain't trying to hear nothing DJ Jim like nigga I'm the first DJ for Dr. Dre and Snoop the whole dog pound all that shit anyway he turned Reese on to Sir Jinks Sir Jinks turned me and Reese on to Exhibit when he was working on his album 40 Days and 40 Nights and then he just we was around Exhibit for a long time we started a group moving around with him it was a lot of other artists around Razzcast, The Far Eye Motherfucking Chase Chase, the homie Chase Infinite.
57:17There was a lot of other artists around that had deals and shit. We was like the only homies. And I was tied to the alcohol.
57:23Adam22:It was all the liquid crew. It was all liquid crew shit. Shout out to King T. J-Row was the only what we would consider mainstream artists from Pacoimba. Right. Oh, that's crazy. That was my nigga. Yeah, you know me and J-Row used to live without parole. We lived in that. For real? I did not know that nigga. J-Row from Pacoimba like a bull. What was the homie name? Was it Milk or something? fuck the kind of albino dude crying down crying down yeah crying down so anyways we just start going on tour with x but this was i mean with x but this is during the time when it you know the mixtape gang was crazy g unit and all that shit yeah and we start going crazy and tearing the streets up and really start really really making a name and have the shit in every store everywhere every hood from here all the way up to the bay strong on steady mixtapes and then you know exhibit wind did you know a deal with the pimp my ride shit and then we went over there and start I went to Lil Kweli and then I got to, you know, I toured the world, you know, I mean, mostly Europe and shit with all them niggas and shit.
58:20But, you know, I learned a lot of shit. But you said we were so diverse. We was together because I was just there because we was holding eggs down. That's how I got on. Just me and Reese and all my homies and Beezle and everybody just holding, holding exhibit down. You know what I'm saying? Right. I don't think it was because of no other reason other than that. You know what I'm saying? Big Reese used to be security and hype man.
58:42Adam22:you know them with the big black dude with the big ass face pump it up and they'll knock you out straight up that's why it seems so diverse but then also I like to look at it as like the first stages of niggas coming out of having to basically wear khakis and shit to get accepted on the west coast that was the first shit and then from that we happy to say we know we had influence for sure like on black hippie and shit like that because black hippie is like a it's like an extension or like a rookie That's crazy. That's the same type of, you know what I'm saying? That's the same formula we had, you know what I mean?
59:14Right. So shit, you know what I'm saying? The Far Ride, that was a school teacher, homie, right? The Far Ride. The school teacher, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I remember him. Yeah, man, that's all right.
59:23Adam22:You know, believe it or not, that was my introduction into music because when I paroled, Wolf from OVG started Wolfpack Records, right? And I was part of that. Dave Elliott and all that, we did the Roger Troutman project and they was always around the Far Ride and Licks. it's back before Exhibit even got his deal it's way back I have a really good question what can you tell us now in retrospect about what went into getting XXX and Tacion knocked out on stage at that venue in San Diego what were the logistics of how that went down that mouth
1:00:03but it's a whole fucking story on YouTube with a whole shit yeah but you got the insider perspective
1:00:07Adam22:they really got that shit right though This is exclusive. No, they got it right on the YouTube shit. It's really the story. I warned him. Nah, what happened was - Crazy shit. He was talking reckless. Nah, what happened was - Lil Homie was on tour, wasn't he? Yeah. Yeah. That's where it came from. Listen, they was on tour, and what I heard was Ski Mask wanted to perform right before X instead of being Ski Mask, Rob Stone, and X. Yeah, they had Rob Stone at the top of the bill. I think Designer might have been the headliner. I forget exactly who was the headliner, but, like, they had Rob Stone right below it, and Ski Mask felt like they're going more crazy for me.
1:00:46Adam22:I should be moved up on the bill, which probably was true, but it's like, you know, you got to talk to the team about that shit. It was more Rob Stone and them was out on the road with just young homies, and then they on the road with they big homies and everybody. They're like, nigga, you know what I'm saying, trying to push on the little homies lightweight, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. As they should. Nigga, that's how it go. Nigga, doggy, you feel me? that's what they were supposed to do but they didn't really know the Dago niggas Dago niggas be wanting to suck niggas and shit I told him I said bro something gonna happen he knocked him out on stage right I've never seen a rapper get knocked out like that on stage before I mean it was the craziest you probably never seen a rapper get knocked out like that never mind on stage and he's at the quiet part in the song where he's like you know singing and shit holding the mic and then all of a sudden my jaws on the other side of the stage hey check this out hey i gotta hey hey i gotta keep i gotta tell the whole story so y 'all y 'all say why dago ain't popping or whatever imagine this do you know motherfuckers was saying rob stone chanting rob stone after this happened for knocking a nigga from florida out in San Diego.
1:02:01Adam22:That's crazy. Damn. That's wild. That wouldn't happen nowhere else. Wait, that shows a lack of unity. Come on, bro. In Dago? In Dago. It's on video. They're saying Rob Stone. Like, y 'all don't understand what we go through as artists in San Diego. What the fuck is is down there mad because we ain't got our opportunity to shine and everybody fighting over this small piece of pie. You know what I mean? So they don't understand that you don't, this nigga ain't really in your way, man. You know what I'm saying? He ain't in your way. It ain't his fault and all that shit. We just gotta open in this motherfucking book of the game, homie, and reach out and call niggas that got the game and figure out how to make this shit really happen because straight up, we can't make it happen the way a L.A.
1:02:39nigga or a Bay nigga can happen. We can't because we don't have the industry, so we got to figure out how to wiggle through that. You know what I'm saying? And the reason why niggas with me, as much as they did, was because I wiggled through L.A. just like a L.A. nigga. Yeah, you definitely did that. Shout out to my Inglewood niggas, my Bonta niggas, my South Central niggas. You know what I'm saying? I moved all through. Now I'm going to tell you what I didn't do though I really wasn't hanging out on the east side I wasn't You know what I'm saying I'd have been all over there But I wasn't hanging Most of my hanging is on the west side You know what I'm saying Shout out to the 60 niggas too Because them niggas always show me love The Mansfield niggas always show me love Like I walked to the store and all that shit in the Mansfields You know over there with Crown Down the Field And the homie Mac and all them and shit like that So me being in LA And actually being around motherfuckers To learn the game for real and see what's happening and what ain't happening.
1:03:29I was privy to have information that most San Diego, no San Diego niggas really got about the game, homie. They just don't know. And I try to tell them, they ain't going to believe me. Nigga, you ain't passing out no chains and shit, slick. You know what I'm saying? We're going to listen to you folks. You know what I'm saying? And if you listen, I will be passing out some chains. Just listen. I'm going to call Wack. I'm going to tell Wack what's happening, my nigga.
1:03:51Adam22:Wack, you got to set the play, man. You feel me? Bro, listen. Like, I would have been pulled this place. I just know. And you still, it's gangs down there. So you still got your little division. Even though somebody may want to fuck with this dude, you're going to have the people on this side of his neighborhood saying something. So, you know, you got to be a certain type of dude to really do this business. Everybody's not going to agree with your decisions. True. These are facts. You get what I'm saying? It's funny today because they be like, yo, Wack, man, why you go to that no jumper shit, bro?
1:04:22Adam22:You know, you're supposed to be whoop, whoop, whoop. But then now, But then now today, they say, yo, Wack, can you open us a podcast a week? A door, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? The game of change. What's up? I just thought of something, homie. Listen, the way San Diego is, I ain't saying everybody, you got to bend the rules and make it right for San Diego. But I'm going to tell you what it would take in Dago. You can't just put one nigga on. You got to bring everybody? You got to put like four niggas on it one time. See, that's crazy. So do you feel like that might have been a hindrance?
1:04:51Adam22:That mindset might have been a hindrance to why we have - No, I'm saying just like Pick a nigga from here, there, there, and there So can't know everybody can't be mad or nothing Everybody got their guy, now everybody got to do their part And if your guy don't do his part Then y 'all ain't in the shit no more, you know what I'm saying But it ain't no reason to look at it as a bad thing That's full motherfuckers, that's full of time's money That's full bread So you're talking about like a rap group? No, no, I'm saying like let's take four artists And just crack it You know what I'm saying The main thing, the problem that we got That'll eliminate that We gotta eliminate cannibalism in that go homie.
1:05:25What about a group?
1:05:26Adam22:A super group. In the bay and shit they got one umbrella right now. It was like a movement with a 22nd gym and all black. But is it working? I feel like they got motion. I feel like they probably got motion as a group. It can't be a group. No? No. You gotta keep everybody apart. Just give him something. Give him something. And then whoever is involved in this shit believe me. They gonna see why it makes sense. What about giving them an opportunity. Yeah. Right. Okay, because so look, so we, you know, this Sunday we launched Nothing But Content. Right. I have a reality show that I'm supposed to shoot.
1:05:59Come on.
1:06:00Adam22:It's called On The Fingers, which you know, that's Lil Jon's thing, but On The Fingers, it could be Crip Blood, F*** You Love, Power, it could be whatever, right? So what we're doing, and I've already contacted about 20 neighborhoods and they want in. So what I'm doing is I'm going to different neighborhoods and we jumping out with the camera and it may be two, three, four cats. We may be like, look, them two was hard. We ain't f***ing with them, but only one of y 'all come back to the compound. Whatever they got to do to figure out whatever they want is, they squabble up, they toss a coin roll, I don't know.
1:06:32Adam22:But we're bringing back a representative from 10 different neighborhoods, Crips, Bloods, Paru's, we even threw the Hoovers in there, right? Back to the compound. But when we get back to the compound, all the challenges, is going to be like a artist development course. It ain't going to be no gangbang shit when we get back. It's going to be all shit that you supposed to know or learn in the game. Right. But at the end of it, it's going to be a deal. It's going to be marketing. It's going to be promos. It's going to be features. A distro deal in the bag. So quite naturally, when I'm talking to the fellas on the phone, all the neighborhoods is going down.
1:07:12Adam22:It's LA County neighborhoods. Now I said, I gotta include Dago. You know this. Because I called you. I called you, right? But listening to what you're saying. About a month ago. Yeah, listening to what you're saying, we may have to include more than one fraction from the Diego compound. Fraction of it from the Diego compound. But I'm going to tell you this. I'm not dealing with the politics. So you're going to have to tell me. So you, Mr. Mitch. You're going to have to tell me. Hey, listen. Okay. Who's the guy? Hey, we're going to find a way from everybody to pick this nigga. He ain't going to kill me around that place.
1:07:53Yeah, y 'all figure it out.
1:07:54Adam22:Hey, y 'all got to figure it out. Because what I'll do instead of just being one, I'll open the gates up to like two, three from Dago to come compete for it. Right. But y 'all got to figure out where we going to end up going to do this with these people to get them back up to the compound. Disgusting amongst yourselves. He said, you got to figure out what you're doing, homie. Yeah, that's a good idea, G. Bees figure it out. Listen, down there, you got burgundy bandanas, red bandanas, green bandanas. Right. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? And they all, you know, the older cats is tapped in. But we don't have time to deal with the politics.
1:08:35Adam22:We got to, y 'all got to figure that out. The Skylines is already looking at me like, nigga, you got to come over here. Right. But before them, the league is just looking at me like, whack, we've been your extended family. B said he got one from over there too. You got, that's right. Right. And so, and then we got the, but then you got, bro, it's gangs out. You ever heard of Little Africa? I have heard of it. You got Emerald Hills, you got the Colts, you got all kinds of shit. Probably some other shit I don't know about. You know what I'm saying? But I don't mind doing that and putting the light on them.
1:09:05Adam22:And guess what? Even if they're not the winners, Adam knows this. bro what you take from that vision that visual they can't go down there and sit on their hands even if you don't win they might do some shit that's viral enough to push their thing so let me ask you this Mitch if we started that show today who are the top three artists not trying to exclude nobody but if he tell you I need three artists today who are the three artists from Diego that you pushing to say these are the three guys that are the best representative of San Diego. Who are those three guys? Trying to get me killed. I don't want to.
1:09:43Adam22:You're not saying it wasn't naming names. Hey, yo, but that's crazy, though. I didn't see that. That's San Diego. Anybody else here? That's so crazy. A name name. Right. See all the politics? It's a little. And I don't want to get you into no mix. I'm just saying, like. If he named names, we're being objective about who has the most motion. Like, I feel like he's going to. Y 'all know who got the most motion. It's going to seem like he's playing favorites. Y 'all got the most. Y 'all know that. games because it's like not as big an artist. So I'll tell you what we're going to do. We ain't going to single out nobody.
1:10:11Everybody. All the Dago. I'm trying to put the light on all the Dago.
1:10:15Adam22:And we're going to pull up and whatever ones is we're going to give them action and we're going to let the people tell us right there what it is. What it come down to and who going to be the one. So if it's five niggas from over there, six niggas, we're going to put the time to the camera to see what they're about and we're going to get to the bottom line. I got a question. Do you look at Wes Watson as a Dago representative. Wes Watson? Yeah. You know the white boy. You know what it is? Hold on though, bro. I mean, he's locked up again. He's locked up again. They try to give him all day and night.
1:10:50Adam22:He's locked up in Miami. He's a white boy. Yeah, he's a white guy. He's a white boy. He's a skinny-head white boy? Nah. I think he run with the white card when he go to jail. Maybe I have, though. Wes Watson. Oh, wait. Hold on. What did he do? So basically, he went to prison. Then he came out. He started doing like a prison vlog and all this shit. Oh, Wes? Yeah. Is he official? Big ass, what you got? Let me see. Who you talking about? He was a big YouTube star. He locked up now. Nah, nah. I'm on the right. Nah, nah, nah. Oh, wait, who? It's the guy on the right. Big ass muscle head. So what did he do?
1:11:21Adam22:He got a - Where he from? So basically he blew up on YouTube, made a bunch of money, was like doing his whole self-help thing, and then he got caught up, got a bunch of money, now they got him with some shit, with him beating up his girl, he beat up a nigga at a gym. And now he about to do, they trying to hit him with like - He's from San Diego. Yeah. He repped San Diego hard. You know, San Diego is real segregated. But then he did 10 years in prison for robbery, burglary, and violent assault. And then he'd been in Miami for a while. He walked up until 2018. Do they got white gangs down there?
1:11:48Adam22:What? Because we don't got white gangs up here. Yeah, we don't either. Hiring? We don't got white gangs. Y 'all do got white gangs. No, we don't. Mexican gangs. You got skinheads and all that shit? No, but we can't, like, where they be. No, we dating. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you mean like a hood where there's white boys in the gang? Yeah. Yeah.
1:12:07Adam22:yeah okay oh see that's crazy the oc got got some white white boy gangs right like who the orange county they got like the skinhead gangs and shit like that that's what i hear i never really seen it oh yeah i've never i've never like like i know like the bikers but i'm like if you want to know you can go on google and put in crips and blood this is gonna get your whole outlaw red blue orange where they at like if a motherfucker said like yo where the white gangs at. I know some white boys from some black gangs, Mexican gangs, but just... White gangs. I don't even know the name of no white gangs.
1:12:41Adam22:Outside of the prison, Nazi low riders, and all that type of shit, but they may have some in Orange County. Right. But so, yo, do they have like sections where it's... It's Dago, homie. I'm sure they do. They do be what they got, B's. Lakeside. But y 'all don't bump heads with... No, no, no. They do their own shit? But it's shit all the way from Dago to Southeast, East Dago, Linda Vista, hella gangs in Oceanside. It's a whole other world in Oceanside. What happened to that dude you interviewed? Bishop Snow. He's a GD from Oceanside. He's a what? A GD. How did that happen in jail? I don't know.
1:13:23Adam22:His older homie or something? He's like a black dude from a Mexican gang, right? He's not from a Mexican gang. He's a gangster disciple. From a black gang? Also in GD. So they got like a movement, a GD movement down there? They do. Ocean side. But that's like, you know, 40 minutes. Yeah, I know where it's at. Yeah, that's right on top of Ocean side between like Michigan B.A.O. and Encinitas. Pretty much, yeah. I know a little bit. 163, 78. You know a lot of it. You know he tapped in. I know a lot of it. oh shit let me ask this question so this album that you drop and this is your 25th anniversary so i want to ask about this so how are your views about the industry like so when you was getting into the game 25 years ago and now like what are your views of the game in the industry that have changed in 25 years that's that's a lot of shit on me but the main thing i'll just talk about one thing okay then you had to really be outside you know what i mean now you can make it make it happen from inside of your motherfucking computer.
1:14:33Right. But back then it was a lot of pounding, I mean, what you call it? Pounding the pavement. Paving the pavement. Pounding. Pounding the pavement, homie. And what I mean by pounding the pavement, me and the homies went, and when I dropped that album, me and the homies about five of those went all, bought brand new Escalades and Denali's and shit and wrapped them and drove to every hood from San Diego all the way to the Bay to Oakland. I went to all the hoods in Oakland, SAC, went everywhere. stayed in SAC for weeks, hung out with the motherfucker in the Strawberry Manor's with the homies. Garden block.
1:15:08All the homies. 24, 29th Street. I really pounded the pavement, homie, with this shit. And that's one thing. I don't think they do no shit like that. I'm talking about we putting up, you know, remember the shits? Yeah, street teaming. The street teaming.
1:15:22Adam22:So is it almost foreign to have to do this digital shit now these days versus the on the grind shit? Well, it's not foreign to me because I'm from the beginning of digital shit. I just missed out on being a kid during that era. See, me, G Malone, if we'd have had Instagram and all that shit when we first came out. Shit would have been way easier. It's a story right now. Yeah, yeah. Because the shit we was doing, then I would put it on. But now I'm not finna show y 'all what I'm doing every day. Right. Where I live and how I ride around. I'm too old for that bullshit. I mean, but think about it, don't rock with the shit they had to do.
1:15:52Adam22:He talking about driving a 500-mile radius. Everybody on Rins with TVs and they shit. We smashing all the way to the bay. And with the cars, so the visual, with the loud music. And you're stapling the posters to the polls. But we could just go on Instagram. And do it way faster. And then the world sees it. Yeah, but you got to be a certain type of nigga to even jump out in the middle of Oakland and poster some shit up on the wall. It was dangerous out there back then. You couldn't just hop out. But niggas was loving us and was loving the fact that we was, you know, coming like that. We're known Southern California niggas driving all the way up to Frisco.
1:16:25and that's how I built the following I got in the Bay to where I got songs with all the legendary niggas and all I don't give a fuck what they say they don't love no Southern Cali nigga in the Bay more than Mitchie Slick I say that more than that no that's facts hey you go look at my listens and streams and all my what you call it analytics and shit the Bay Frisco all that shit be up there you know what I'm saying shout out to my nigga Messi Mar we got an album that's a classic
1:16:49Adam22:shout out to my nigga Recipes Jacka he you know them niggas like Like, you know, it's one thing you're an underground street nigga and a nigga come call you up to hop on some shit and he puts you on a song with Fody. You know what I'm saying? That's different. You know what I'm saying? That's the type of love that niggas have with me. Facts. Shout out to my niggas, all my niggas, all my my figure niggas, everybody. Let me get Messi Marv's number. I'm trying to get it. Man, please, man. Man, I'm so sad about my nigga. Marv is a legend. Messi Marv is a legend from where I'm from. We got to do something about this shit, man.
1:17:17Adam22:I said it out loud. What do you mean? Because the homie needs the game right now. So he's not in a great spot. Not in a great space. And it would be, if anybody got something, and I know in the whole Southern Cali, Southern Cali, Northern Cali, between the two of us, got some type of way to offer the homie some type of rehabbing or something. Assistance or something, yeah. Because it don't make no motherfucking sense, man. That nigga's, that's... And he birthed so many... Lush is on Messy Murph. He is, he is. Messy Lush. He definitely is. But no, Messy Murph is definitely a legend. He definitely influenced a lot of people, and I think that he gets kind of like tossed by the wayside because of whatever he might be going through.
1:17:52Adam22:I most definitely try to hunt the homie down and reach him and shit like that. I'm going to find him. Are you looking him up right now? No, I'm going to find him. I'm going to hit general. Niggas need to make something out of it, especially in the Bay. They need to make it a real deal obligation to the whole Bay to go find Mess and put him up, man. I'm going to tell you who I want to interview. Who that? Because I'm a huge fan, but he got mad at me. Who that? I know why he got mad at me. Spice One. Spice One is a legend. I'm a huge fan. That's my big home right here. My music by mail tapes, every time he dropped something, I had it, right?
1:18:31Adam22:Spice One. But he got mad at me because of Tupac shit. Right? Yeah. But I think he knows now that Wax a fan. Yeah. Him, Sebo, these are dudes that I kind of discovered when I was in prison. Sebo went to prison for his lyrics. No, I was there. Yeah. I was there. I remember in the Vibe magazine where it told me one of his conditions was he couldn't say nothing about the police. And the next song he dropped was about the police. Yeah, they locked his ass up and violated him. You know, Silly Sail, cast like that. Because, you know, I started doing something in Solidar. So I was up north of my Bay Area.
1:19:07Adam22:You know, it's called Bloody Waters. Don Moves and cast from the Bay, we sail with one another. We click with one another. Do you know about his Tupac take? What? He said that the game was a bigger rapper than Tupac. No, I did not say the game was a big grab. No, the game got more classic albums. No, but I said this. I said that the game had more of an impact on the West Coast than Tupac. And the reason why I said that, because Pac had an impact. No, no, no. He has more classic albums, too. But what I was saying was. He just got more albums. And when I said it, they said I was a wack glazer. But I'm not.
1:19:40Adam22:Pac got like five, six classic albums. But what I said was, you remember the time after Pac's. an impact on the West Coast from like 92 to like 96, right? And then after he passed, the West Coast on a mainstream level was in a drought for a long time. And then when game came... That's when I came in. Exactly. And so when game came, he was tasked with... Because the West Coast was being blackballed, and he had to bring us back to the national stage. That was hard. So am I wrong for that take? Okay, I'm going to say this. Okay. And they ain't going to like it, but it's the truth. You know what it is.
1:20:18Adam22:Pac didn't do a motherfucking thing for the West Coast. The West Coast did it for Pac. Come on. I ain't talking about the bass shit. Right? But even with that shit. Because he was sitting in the penitentiary in New York. And then shit came and got him out, signed him on a napkin. Took a West Coast digger to do that. Yeah. Right? And then when he got... You don't even want to talk about Pac when I'm on. No, hold on. We just having a conversation. Pac is one of my favorite rappers. Respectfully. Pac, we just talking about real shit. Realistically. When he got to the studio, a lot of them joints was done.
1:20:47Adam22:They was somebody else. Dr. Dre shit. We ain't taking nothing from him, but Game didn't have the help Pac had. None of that. Adam, I think you know this shit. Come on, Kip. Thank you for being here, Wack. Game didn't have the help Pac. Nothing. Think about it. The West Coast bailed him out of prison, brought him to the studio, gave him songs. Like signing to the biggest rapper in the world? No, I'm saying gave him songs. Right. Like these shit was done. 50 Cent gave Game his biggest songs? We're talking about Pac in there with Drake. But how is this an argument against – this is an argument about why Game had a lot of help.
1:21:19Adam22:No, no, listen to me. Game definitely got help from 50. Right. Right? But Pac never had to face the opposition that Game had to face. That's what I was saying. And still survive. And it was difficult because at the time we was dry. We didn't have shit going. 50 was a monster. You don't get points for having to face more opposition. And win. It's about your contribution. And that's why I feel like he was more impactful to the West Coast. There was no disrespect to Pac. But to the West, what game had to do with it. You don't remember that shit out of me? That was tough. We was dry out here, bro.
1:21:51Adam22:On a mainstream level. Pac. Biggie had died. Pac had died on the West Coast. Niggas was like, I ain't even. Thank you. I'm talking about a nigga. I'm talking about I be in Atlanta at the time. I go all over. And nigga, they wasn't playing a West Coast record. Nowhere. And Pac didn't have to go against that record. They hated it. They hated it. Exactly. And Pac didn't have to do that when he was doing his thing. That's why I said what game did was so difficult, such an uphill battle. That's why it was more impactful to the West Coast. But, of course, when I say that, they say I'm glazing. Well, we have to say Pac did it by the time he was 25.
1:22:26Adam22:Yeah. Yeah. I get that. Game had like 30 years. You know what I'm saying? But Game was young when he came out. When Game dropped his debut, what was he, 22, 21? He was young. You know what I'm saying is Game's still up and kicking. Right. To this day. Drillmatic just dropped a big easy on him. He just dropped a mixtape with DJ Drama. Yeah, you get what I'm saying? And he did the shit with Mikey Keys. That shit dope as fuck. I think it's at least a discussion to say what he did. Let's talk about who developed him. A Dago nigga. Come on. That's Big Reese. Talk on it. Speak on it. First time I met him, they was just over there.
1:23:02We was in the jungles, sleeping on the flows. Them niggas was so dope. I was like, I ain't leaving these niggas until we get some shit. finish. You might just go over there, stay with them. We just live together for like, I have my gates up in Malibu, homie. I built them niggas a studio in my house and all that shit. T-Fly was over there with us too. I had T-Fly at the pad.
1:23:19Adam22:I believe Mike and Key's got the most Nipsey Hussle, unreleased Nipsey Hussle songs. Damn. Them niggas got a drive. Ooh. A full drive. Yeah. This a fact. So whenever, you know, Black Sam, whenever he get ready to do his whatever he's gonna do, He got some music over there. And the one thing I can say about the music, because I've heard it, is that he kind of got what Pac got. You know you can put a Pac song on right now and don't sound aged. Yeah, that's a fact. And that's the type of shit Mike and Keys got. The timeless shacks. I got an album with Mike and Keys right now finna come out. A whole album?
1:23:59A whole album. But I mean, with that,
1:24:05Adam22:you're not gonna win that one. I know I know and I know I got creamed in the comments and they was getting that. Hey I got CeeLo Green on the album That's alright You did a record with Gladys Knight too right? Talk to me about that How the hell you get a hold of that? How you get Gladys Knight on the record? Not many people can say that Hey I'm gonna tell y 'all a better story before we talk about that. Okay. On the dead homies I think it was Christmas Christmas 2005 me and all the homies on the block sitting out in front of my grandmama house Harley's in the front, everything in the front hair out looking brazy and all the shit and my uncle Doug Rashid come walking across the street and all I hear is Trigger Race Station Singing it way better than I sung, I like that one baby on my mama, on the dead homies Shaka Khan nigga in front of my house nigga singing Triggeration Station to me on the dead homies.
1:25:04That's crazy. Talking about I like that one, baby, Triggeration Station. That's slapping.
1:25:08Adam22:But I'm going to tell you what, Shaka Khan and Whitney Houston were like really in touch with street, with the streets. With street shit, yeah. Doug Rasheed. She was married to Doug Rasheed. That's my uncle on my block. Brought her to Granny's house on Christmas Day singing that shit to me, Shaka Khan, on my mama and with all the homies on the block. So you got Shaka Khan singing your stuff and then you did a song with Gladys Knight. How does this even happen? The Gladys Knight collab, how does that even happen? Gladys Knight married to my uncle. Dope. And I just spend a lot, it's family. And it ain't just family.
1:25:43Just being at the studio, we just knock one out.
1:25:45Adam22:That's crazy. I got a call. I love my auntie Gladys. Janet want to do a song with Kendrick. Shout out to Uncle Will. Love you, you already know. Janet and a Kendrick record. That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. When's the last time she put music on? It's been a while. I don't know, but shit, it don't matter. I got that damn movie out. She can put some, you know what I'm saying? And guess what, Adam? Guess who called me? Fucking Stutterbox. Yo. What are you talking about? J-Hood, brother. I swear to God. He called me. Whack. Janet wanted to do a song with Kendrick. And I know you were too with TDE.
1:26:23Adam22:She did put an album out three years ago. And then he puts me on the phone with somebody. He wanted to top NOI guy. covering your security. And there it went. I sent top the email and whatever they doing, they doing. So it'd be a lot going on, bro. Yeah. I would love to hear that though. Janet and Kendrick, I think I would be here for that. Now I got a bone to pick with you. Oh shit, here we go. Let's do it. And then I'm going to put some shit on your ass. We're going to rewind. Oh shit. Out of respect to you, I had the conversation. I heard you say, whack was scared to sit down with moose because of the conversation but when i had the conversation with him and asked him what his issues was everything he was talking about was some youtube shit that he was unaware of the inner workings of he didn't really have like i thought he really had to like really try to say what he wanted to say to you it left a little bit to be yeah he didn't really have much to say and to say stop shitting on him i'm not shitting on him no Adam, like I thought, listen.
1:27:30Adam22:Weasel boy. Listen, Adam. I thought that he really like has some real like. Little weasel. Like on some, I thought he has some. Bro, his whole shit was people at no jumper. No, but this was the contradiction. He was coming at whack saying whack is bad for no jumper because he promotes division. Meanwhile, he's beefing with Flacco. He's beefing with Tav3. He's beefing with you. He's doing the same things that he doesn't want you to do. And even as my brother, like I have a podcast with him. He's cool. He's a good guy. But I got to call the ball the ball and the strike the strike. You're not keeping it.
1:28:03Adam22:How are you going to call this man out for creating division? And he kind of. But here's the thing, though. Who do I got division with? You got it. Because everybody on a no jumper schedule has always been off my schedule. Now with him, he bouncing around to the new, to the new, to the new, to the new. Right. Right? Flacco may pop up and, right, You bouncing around in areas and spaces to where it might cause a rift. But with me, it's always been Thursday. Thursday, every single time. And that's it. The last show. And it sucks because I have a podcast with him and with Adam. I'm trying to figure out, maybe you know.
1:28:42Adam22:I was really, I thought really, I said, let me see what the fuck he got on his mind. Everything, the dude mentioned, I said, bro, do you not know how long I was up here before Munchie B came through them doors? Munchie B wasn't here. I was already going on for some clubhouse shit. He didn't really have no real questions. I thought he was going to ask me some real shit. He didn't have no backing. I'm just calling it. Don't do that. I'm being honest. Do you know? He didn't have nothing to really stand on. You got to be honest. Yeah, but you're not thinking about how this looks that you're just so eager to dump on Moose?
1:29:15Adam22:I'm not trying to dump on him. First of all, let's get this right. I want you to watch this podcast back because after every sentence he says, you're like, uh-huh. No, but watch this. I ain't said nothing wrong. No, it's like you're ad-libbing everything he says the whole time. So if you're trying to beat the glazing allegations, it's going to take more. First and foremost, white dude, let's keep it real. I'm just being real. Sometimes, bro, sometimes being the people we are, we have to be supportive of who we fuck with. You act like I just met this dude. We've been, I've known him. You said you didn't even know who he was.
1:29:44Adam22:No, but once he thought about it, he realized we met each other years ago. Not only that. But you said that you hung out with him 10 times and you said you didn't know who he was. No, I didn't remember. We have been at the Nick Cannon shit eating$400 worth of sushi. My brother on Reddit put the clips side by side. No, this real shit. Nuts. Right. But once he thought about it, he was like, oh, that's bro. That's bro. OK. I was eating$400. I couldn't remember where it was a few minutes ago, but that's bro. No, we was eating like, we was at the Nick Cannon shit at a sushi spot. Sushi. We was eating all type of boats of sushi.
1:30:11Adam22:Like, I've been rocking for a while. Not only that, not only that, Adam, it's real shit. Hmm. Uh-uh. We brought the white dude up here, the ex-racist that's still a racist, because you racist from the beginning, you racist at the end. I don't agree with that. You were siding with him? About what? About all the white shit. What white shit did I side with him? The white dude from Lancaster. He's not even racist. So what the fuck was I side with him about? So he's an ex-Nazi. Do you remember him saying anything racist that whole time? No, no. Listen. He's a white guy who used to be in a Nazi gang when he was in prison.
1:30:40Adam22:Well, that makes him a racist. No, it doesn't. You said he was in a Nazi gang. What do you mean he used to be? He's not a racist. He used to be. Was he cool as fuck? He was cool as fuck. Hey, I ain't gonna lie, I had a homie that was banged out, was a skinhead, from a, I think it was like, but he changed. He changed. He changed. Okay, if you're a blood, and then one day you decide, you know what, I'm not a blood anymore, I'm gonna become a preacher, and I'm never - That never works. But I denounce gang banging, I'm against it, blah, blah, blah. I'm gonna tell you why it never works. He's still a blood.
1:31:09Adam22:No, he's not, he's an ex-blood. No, but I'm gonna tell you why it never works. My whole boy, Charlie. Okay, but watch this. Let the wrong something happen to the wrong motherfucker. Or let the right motherfucker knock on Charlie Doerr. Straight up. That shit never is still gonna, you know, listen, I'm that way. Nah, Charlie ain't going to go. But if the right way, if I get, you touched the wrong one. Straight up. I'm back. So your ass ain't never just gone. I'm sorry. Now, he was cool as fuck. I fucked with the dude. And did not say anything racist though. No, not at all. it was cool as fuck. When you hear the big tall white dude from Lancashire, cool as fuck.
1:31:47Adam22:But, God damn it, we know your plots and some few things you done executed and I'm looking at you. He had the keys, homie. He had the keys in the car. God damn it. I mean, if anything, he done went on some missions. Big old 6 '5 white boy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If anything, I feel like he was downplaying the type of racist shit that he was probably on in prison. Like, he don't even want to admit to anything. He don't want to admit to anything you don't got to admit to. I've been there. We already know. But he didn't fill in the details and be like, yeah, then one time. But also, you're in prison.
1:32:19Adam22:You're a white guy. I mean, you mostly are leaving the other races alone, right? Bullshit. They got their own car. They're not interacting with the other races most of the time. They're interacting with the SAs. This is the crazy part about it. It's not like they're beating up black dudes all the time unless there's a race ride. If it's a race ride, everybody running. But no, they're not pressing. L.A. County, they catch the blues. See, when they get to prison, is white dudes from all around California. So you ain't going to, like, you'll go up there and I'll find a San Diego card. It may be 20 niggas just from Dago.
1:32:52Adam22:So you're not going to find just 20 white dudes from San Fernando. It'll be some white dudes from all around and they come together. You know what I mean? But you act like if I'm not saying nothing wrong and I'm going to be real, I was a little unimpressed because I thought dude really has some real questions. Now I don't know if he shot some of the questions at you but everything he asked me was like some YouTube shit. Yeah I wasn't really that impressed. Yeah I'm just being real like I really thought and in my mind it really pissed me off more but I couldn't do nothing because you had left. Right and the fact that you had left I couldn't even frown because yeah the fact that Adam then left because once Adam leave the building, it's kind of like on me, right?
1:33:40Adam22:And I'm telling myself, oh, you went through all this shit and you really ain't talking about some YouTube shit. And this is the thing with Adam, man. Adam's giving me a complex, right? Because it's making me feel, because he's giving me, and I look up to him as a mentor on this podcast and shit because clearly he has more experience than me and I'm trying to get better. You what? Listen, this is a, fuck that white boy. No, he's good at what he does. I mean, it's a combination of what I say and what the fans say. So now, every time I say anything positive towards you, it's like, it comes off as overly glazing or trying too hard or disingenuous.
1:34:15Adam22:He don't got nothing negative to say about me. You do have a real problem with that, though. That's not like something I invented. So anybody, he got something good to say about it. Watch this part back. I'm going to watch it back. And whoever he got something good to say about he glazing it. Okay, it's not just that you're glazing the fuck out of Wack, but it's like every single thing that Wack says, you're just ad-libbing it. Like, you never let the conversation breathe. You got to let motherfuckers talk instead of just immediately saying something after everything people say. Okay. You know what it is?
1:34:40Adam22:I can live with that. You're not doing that for him enough. No, I mean. No, he's been critiquing me. It would also be great. He's been critiquing me about it, and I can work on that, but it's just like, yeah, you're right. So I'm going to just take the critique. No, it's not some main shit. I'm just trying to hook you up. Tell the truth, bro. I get it. He's the only one that defends me with facts. That's all it is. Everybody else, I know it's some bullshit, but if it's said against me, they just won't say nothing. And peep this, because I called you last night. Did you see me calling you last night?
1:35:11Adam22:Yeah, I was checked out. So I was on the podcast with Munchy B. I made, I don't want to say I made, but Spody Face, the dude that I'm about to be getting a boxing match with in August, he changed his stance because Spody Face told me, Doughboy, you should have rolled with Moose versus - No, not the pro-black guy. And so shout out to Gangland, because Gangland Neiman said he was just like, why is it that Spodeyface is always on his pro-black stuff and ride with your people? And then because he has so much hatred towards whack, he told me to ride with moves. Your podcast co-host is your people. Stop right here.
1:35:46Adam22:Even if you only did two episodes. Stop right there. Spodeyface ain't even got a reason to be mad at me. He's only mad because he told me to go get the dude's paperwork. and when I got it, it wasn't in favor of what he said. Remember, I got into it with the other dude. What's his name? Who podcast it is? The brother be coming up here. I didn't always forget his name. Bro Rogan? Bro Rogan. Because remember, I set the whole deal up with Bro Rogan. That's Bro Rogan's podcast. A lot of shit was going on behind the scenes. Spody wasn't privy to because I never did no business with Spody. All my business always been with Bro Rogan.
1:36:22Adam22:That wasn't the first time I parted with Bro Rogan. You get what I'm saying? So my issues was with him, drop it, release it, drop it, release it. Right. Right? And then he finally told me he wanted to drop it, but Sporty didn't like how he looked on the podcast. So let me ask you a question. What did you see me do wrong to Sportyface outside of produce the paperwork that didn't say what he said it said? Nothing. Sportyface doesn't like you at this point. Well, you guys started hating each other because you did the whole thing where you surprised them at DC. He didn't hate me for that. I know, but y 'all were still cool.
1:37:01Adam22:Hold on, stop. Third. No, no, no. But then they didn't put it out for damn near like a week. Third, after the podcast. I'm telling you a fucking answer. Then you didn't talk for like a week. You got mad at him because you thought that he wasn't going to put it out. And then you start tripping on him all crazy. No, it wasn't him. Then he did put it out. No, that wasn't him. It was Broke Rogan shit. But let me watch this. Third, after the podcast. about Spoty Face for not putting it out. Then they did put it out and then y 'all have still been beefing even though it did come out. Third, after the podcast what did f***ing DC Baby Draco and Spoty Face do 20 yards away from everybody for 15 minutes?
1:37:36Adam22:Them niggas was cool like me and you and the hallway. This is why, see how he did you when he act one way on the table but step out there and say oh it's cool? So I didn't understand that because after they was cool. So I'm like oh shit alright ain't a problem. Right. Now, I was on Bro Rogan ass, because Bro Rogan playing both sides gets the middle. He telling me Wack is coming out tomorrow. Bro, put the shit up. Why it ain't coming out? Right? That's why I had to expose Bro Rogan. Nigga, you up there with Aunt Hefe. Nigga, this is what you said. Shit started getting different then, right? Remember?
1:38:12Adam22:So I'm like, bro, you playing both sides. You telling me one thing and telling Spody another. So remember, it's Bro Rogan's podcast. It ain't Spody shit. so I think he just really got mad because I didn't agree that the paperwork said dismiss but yet you still gonna put the charges on the nigga you can't do that listen if you get caught in a county jail with some fucked up charges fighting the case they might do something with you but if you get to the penitentiary and your paperwork say dismiss dismiss dismiss we can't use it against you and even to this day what you learn once Bodie get in his head that's what it is He ain't changing it.
1:38:51Adam22:And I had Spody on the phone last night, and he switched his position. It was so crazy because he said, you know what, though? Had I known all the facts, I would have told you to ride with Wack. What? He didn't. And Spody said that. He didn't even know all the facts. You didn't know all the facts till the next day he said, I didn't see all the crazy shit that had been said. And you didn't even know, because I don't know if you see, because I'm pretty sure you didn't watch the whole thing. Moose was talking crazy about me. He was calling me a Wack-A-Z. he was talking shit about me on the 24 hour stream.
1:39:20Adam22:He said, I'm disloyal. I was just like... I mean, I'm on board with all that. Moose is a Mexican, bro. Moose is a Mexican who's disrespectful for no reason. His brother is black and his rapport with me has always been solid. Why would he have... Why would he go against me? Nobody was saying that he should have done anything aside from staying in between y 'all when you were... He sat down! This nigga's a... Listen... No, the sitting down is the problem. No, here goes the problem. Standing on the wall is the problem. Let me tell you something. You gotta get involved. Let me be real. I've gotten punched in the face trying to break up a fight before.
1:39:49Adam22:Hey, let me be real with you. So? When you understand a street dude, right, and a street dude sits back and goes into this quiet zone, if I watch him in an uncomfortable situation and he goes into a quiet zone, in my mind, I know what comes after that. So I'm going to look at the situation and say, is it two niggas or three niggas or one niggas? If it's anything other than one dude, right, I'm going to let the homie do it. I know it's coming. If it's too, I'm already telling myself, when the homie move, I got to move. When I went into that quiet, you've never seen me do that. If Kimbo Slice walks in here, and let's say he's my boy, rest in peace also.
1:40:32Adam22:If Kimbo Slice is my boy, and he walks in there, and he's trying to fight you, I'm going to get on. I'm going to get in between you. I'm going to try to stop him at the very least. No. Yes. No. if I told Kimball Slice fuck you, you this, you that you this, you that, you sit your ass down it's partially because I don't want anyone fighting in my building but it's also because even if he's bigger and stronger and likely to fuck you up I'm still gonna try to stop two of my friends from fighting each other I'm not gonna sit there like a dough boy first of all let me ask you something so you at this point in time let's be real, dealing with all the bullshit we didn't deal with with motherfuckers because you build motherfuckers and motherfuckers getting weird.
1:41:18Adam22:No. You embrace Moose as your friend friend? Yeah. Okay, so when it comes to Moose and it comes to whack, so it's the same level of? I mean, obviously it's not the same level since I've known you for a lot longer. We've done more business. We've done more podcasts. I feel like I probably know you better, but I mean, you've both risen to the level of being my friend to the point where I'm not going to just sit by and watch you guys fight. Would you agree that Moose is bigger than me? In weight? Everything. Height, weight. How much do you weigh? I'm 235. Moose is 260. 5 '10", 5 '11", right? He's six feet, yeah.
1:41:58Adam22:He's younger than me? Taller. So everything about this situation is in his favor? No. Okay, well, let me ask you this, Adam. Let me ask you this. Everyone knows you got a squabble on you. Wait, wait, wait. But watch this. Let me break it down. Hey, whack, whack, whack. Hey, whack, whack. Let me ask you this, though. We've seen a few work fades. How do you feel about this? Moose, when he was in here with Wack, and that shit went down. He was hands up. He was, I'm going to call the police. He was all of that shit. He didn't want no fight. But he's the same person that called out Flacco to a fade.
1:42:32Adam22:He wanted to fight Flacco. Did he? Yes. And he got into it with TF3rd. I don't know if they fought or not, but they got into it. So it's like, when it's with those two dudes, you ready to fight. But when it came to Wack, I want to call the police. I just don't like this elective choosing and politicking if you a fighter and you gonna fight fight he just wanted to talk to Wackler he wasn't trying to fight Wackler listen you know me look Adam I really want to believe after getting your text the next day that if you would have saw all the crazy shit he had been saying I wouldn't have brought him in it would have been a different vibe okay so you gotta put my shoes on this is why and I think when I text you and told you what I told you you just like I'll whack on some bullshit whatever right but bro you have not called dude I don't like your moves you playing this innocent shit now but the shit you was coming with wasn't no innocent shit like I know if I'm talking to a priest or a gangster motherfucker you get what I'm saying you tell a priest hey fuck you up God bless gangster nigga fuck you when I see you whatever it's gonna lead to something.
1:43:44Adam22:So I'm asking you at what point in time are you going to say, yo Moose, you sitting up here, yeah, whack. I feel whack overreacting. Right? But Moose, stop acting like you didn't give dude a reason to trip. Dude be on the podcast. Dude be on the podcast like man, he just, I don't know, man. I just wanted to pod. Nigga, when you say fuck you, you ain't shit and to all my Mexican community, let me clear this up. I didn't say I didn't like Mexicans. No, I, a black dude who come from doing time in the system, is two ways with a Mexican. It's respect. It's disrespect. There's no how I'll bullshit with Mitchie, crack jokes with Doughboy.
1:44:30Adam22:I don't do that with Mexicans because it's the turmoil I've been in, my neighborhood been in, right? So there's no room for me to clown and bullshit with just a Mexican dude I don't know. I'm not going to do that because I don't know how he's going to hear that. And I'm going to hear it off the back as a negative. It don't matter. That's just my last 10 homies called life on a Mexican, not a crib. My last G homie, rest in peace, J-Dawg was killed by a Mexican, not a crib. Right. So I got a bunch of Mexican comrades, but I don't I don't I don't see foot and play around. with Mexicans that I don't know.
1:45:14Adam22:We got a relationship and a rapport that we, however it is, but I don't do that. All he had to do was say, yo, whack, I got a few questions for you. Let's sit down and talk about it. And I would have did it. Well, you know that Moose got put off Norte because of that conversation. They said he can't even go back to Sac. They said Clang Davis. I'm going to tell you this. This is another thing he ain't did to mad for. Man, these motherfucking Mexicans down here ain't going to give a fuck about this dude. You from Sacramento. know he running around here wide open and i'm looking at him like bro chill out you playing you playing i don't know why you i think i you know what did you see what he did the nigga hopped up on the chair like you knew it was gonna be some bullshit yeah you hopped up on the chair like you getting out the way i'm trying to be funny no i took he wasn't playing and that's what he said like that when he calmed down she's like when i seen whack get quiet i seen a man trying to contain himself.
1:46:08Adam22:And that's why I even give him credit for not blowing up the spot because when he banged on the table and said, I want to get out, everything in whack wanted to get out. Have you ever been in the, you know how we go to the mental struggles with ourselves? I've seen it fighting with itself. And then grabbing ourselves. It may be with a little homie. It happened a lot with the little homies. You know, don't, that's the homie, son. Rest your peace. So I'm going through like, I'm literally, bro, I thought about my wife, my kids, Lena. I like that Moose Man can bring out all those. No, because I know if I snap, it's going to lose it all.
1:46:47Adam22:And I don't want to go over there. I don't want to go over there. Imagine sitting in prison doing 20 over Moose Man. Now watch this. We already know that math. It take about after the phone call, about 12 minutes for the police to get here. He already would have bled. Because I know that, I'm going to fuck him up to the maximum. 11.59. Because I know it's already fucked up. Leaving two teeth in his mouth, nigga, it can't make a difference. This is why I don't want to go there. This is why I would have never, me, the fact that I text you and told you what I told you was me showing discipline. And that's the thing that I think.
1:47:32Adam22:I don't wish to sit down with this person because I don't want to disrespect your build. You know, usually we be like, yeah, bring that nigga on up in. And people don't understand my position. I've known Wack a couple of years now, right? We got mutual friends like Chuck, Tay. They'd have been on his ass. So just think about my position. If I go to a Wild N' Out party because we're kicking off a tour on May 9th. If I go to an after party and I show up and you there and Chuck there and Tay there. And then I didn't pick a nigga that I just got on a podcast with for three weeks. This is a straw man though, because nobody was saying you should have done anything besides got between them.
1:48:08Adam22:No, but if he get up, the only option he got. You act like we're saying you should have shot whacking the fucking head. No, but I had just talked to him. Nobody expected that of you. But I told y 'all I wasn't going to break up that fight because I've been punching him. No, and that's why everybody thinks you're pussy. I'm not pussy. What you mean? But you look like hella soft, like not standing up. Hey, I'm going to be real. If the homie get mad and I know he's upset and disrespected, if I get up, it better be to move with him. that's all I'm sure but you're not his homie like that but I had more of a friendship with Wack than I did with Moose that is crazy I'm making it up Wack didn't even know who you were we've seen him around he didn't even know who you were in 2026 Adam you know what you're seeing are people coming together no we're seeing Glazing that's what you want to call it I'm calling my black brothers and sisters don't listen to the Glazing He's trying to use that to keep you from coming to stand by your people.
1:49:07Adam22:Doughboy, just get under the table. Doughboy, wipe your mouth off and get off on your knees. This is what I'm kidding. Hey, Mitch. Way funnier shit going on over there. All you hear when Doughboy talks. But Mitch. Hey, but Mitchie. Doughboy, get on that thing. Shit like a mother. But Mitch, but just think about this position. I met bro. I met bro a while ago. I come on. He got an issue with my new podcast partner that I just met. But I did know. Right. And then I talked to him that morning. He said, Doe, don't bring me around that nigga. I ain't playing like that. I told them. They made the play on it.
1:49:44Adam22:But what am I? I didn't try to break niggas up and got punched in my face for my friends. And you're supposed to get punched in the face for Moose Man. Obviously, that wasn't going to happen anyway. But just picture this. picture that the Joe Budden podcast are doing an episode with some gangster ass fool. Some dude that everybody knows knows how to fight and seems like he's on some tough shit, whatever. And that dude just gets up and just tries to start punching on Mark Lamont or Ish or Ice or whoever. Joe Budden gonna stop. Imagine Joe Budden just sitting there. He might though. Depending on what's going on.
1:50:23Adam22:He got enough money that maybe is justified. But I'm saying Joe Buddy is going to look crazy if he just sits there and watches it and doesn't get involved, try to break it up. Nobody's saying he needs to punch fucking Casanova two times in the face. But he got to try to at least stop it. But he said it might lead to that. And I said that when it all began, I said, this is not a good idea. We shouldn't do this. And when I seen his face. I don't remember any of that. No, no, no. I knew that when I seen his face. He was in violation. And I'm going to be real, Adam. He's still in violation. I gave him a pass.
1:50:51Adam22:You know why? Because he was supposed to tell me what y 'all was up to. And he didn't. It's a fact. You weren't in harm's way. You were safe. Bullshit. Hey, look, bro. Let me ask you this, Wack. If I would have tried to hold you back, how would you have looked at me? No, no. Would have went bad. You don't think you could have done the same thing I did was just, like, stand there? Because at that point in time. I would have looked like the op. Now, at that point, my mind reads, it's me against the whole room. Thank you. That's all I was trying to. I knew it, and I knew that that would happen. Look, Adam, you understand why I come from my era?
1:51:21Adam22:We come from being our number five to one. So anytime we detect that shit, our mind, I'm not a motherfucking blogger, a podcaster. I'm just here. I come from some other shit. So the way your mind works, like I hear you do talk. I don't understand. I don't get it. And I get why you don't get it. So when you get a motherfucker tell you, hey, bro, I can't do that. That's just somebody trying to respect your shit because we know we're going to go somewhere where we might not come back. Hey, peep this whack. Hey, whack. No, I'm fine. A whack, a whack, a whack. Even in the confrontation, you said it in the middle of the conversation.
1:51:57Adam22:I don't even know if you remember this, Adam. You looked at me in the middle of the shit like, you ain't going to clear this shit up? So I knew that there was some responsibility. Why you all lying too, bro? Like he didn't say nigger. He said nigger. Let's bet 5 ,000. He said nigger. I'll pull it up. I'll pull it up. Let's bet 5 ,000. I'll pull it up. He said nigger. No, but he lied and said he didn't say it. I'll pull it up. He said nigger. Do you want to stand behind that bed? In front of you. He said nigger. He said nigger. Listen, we ain't tripping, but all y 'all, the dude sat up here and said, I never said that word.
1:52:29Adam22:I don't know. No, he did say it. Like, bro, when y 'all going to call dude on this shit? Because if I say I didn't say something, you click, you're going to be like, whack, you're a motherfucking liar. I do too. He said that he didn't say the N word. Yeah. He did during the podcast. Yes, he said, I got 9-1-1 on speed dial, nigga. The dude come back up here with the whole crew and said, I didn't say, nigga, they're lying. I didn't hear. It's on your shit. I mean, I didn't hear it. I don't know. And he said that you put$1 ,500 on his head. That didn't happen either. All you said was you cost$1 ,500.
1:53:02Adam22:I said that's all you cost. He didn't say I was going to put that on your head. But he didn't say he was going to do it. Yeah, he said you cost$1 ,500. Nigga,$500, you go to the right place. But you were saying I could get you killed for$1 ,500. No, I didn't. I said you cost$1 ,500. I said, look, bro, stop playing with people. Because all a motherfucker costs today is$1 ,500. Right. You, me. So you're saying that you can get him killed for$1 ,500? It's anybody. I just said anybody in general. But you didn't say, I'm going to get you killed for$1 ,500. That's a terrific threat. So what I'm saying is this.
1:53:31Adam22:If dude is playing police games, don't speak on me. If this is your building, right, don't antagonize a motherfucker. Leave me the fuck alone on some real shit. If I'm not fucking with you, why are you fucking with me? And then it was thrown off to me. Adam, this is from real shit. Nah, we're trolling Me and Brick troll You ever heard me have a problem? We troll You wanted to fight each other Nah, definitely Me and Brick just talk on the phone, bro Three days before that nigga went to jail We was on the phone talking Listen I'm XL The only thing I'm saying is Stop letting dude play victim, bro Thank you You letting him play victim That's the merch from my new pen I got Is there another 2X over there?
1:54:19Hell yeah. It got to be a good one. Can I have these fruits?
1:54:21Adam22:And then Doughboy is saying he want to bet you on a weight loss thing. So I do want to get that down. So, Pete, we got a weight loss competition going on. You probably lost a lot of weight. I have. During this episode. Motherfucker. I hate you, Adam. You probably dehydrated. God damn it. So, I want to continue the weight loss challenge. But let's put a little bit of a wager up. I bet you, watch this. that I will double your weight loss. Let's put a wager up. My 1 ,000 to your 5 ,000. That I will double your weight loss. Whatever you lose, I'll lose two. I'm not going to lie. I don't really feel motivated to lose weight right now.
1:54:59Adam22:He keeps eating the bread. I just told him, I will double you up. And you won't take the bet? So if you lose 10, I got to lose 20. Bro, you compared to me in terms of available fat to burn, it's not really. so do I gotta go three times to get a bet I'm just probably opting out either way but so you're not gonna put nothing up you're a betting man poker only three okay this is my last and final offer three to one odds I'm good but yo I gotta dip because I gotta go put the fucking kid to sleep we all gotta roll but nice podcast Mitchie it was great to get to connect with you shout out to San Diego we're gonna be doing some San Diego stuff coming up in the near future I'm happy that I could help light a fire under the ass of some San Diego area rappers.
1:55:48Yeah, because they think you be kind of like got something against the tail. Nah. I love them. If anything. I might love them too much.
1:55:57Adam22:Thank you for the shirt, brother. I appreciate you. Hey, man. That's a pen I got through my drops I've been doing with Classics, the Classics brand. I got a vape pen. It's in about 300 stores all over California. Oh, that's good shit. Yeah. Right. I know it. Speaking about glazing. Okay. Want some real shit? Talk to me. Sometimes you got to assess the situation, bro. Hey, you smoke out of bone? This nigga got a moose on his chest. Once in a while. You got a moose on your chest? Look. You motherfucker. Who's glazing now? Who's glazing now? Me. Hey, look at the dopest shit. Oh, shit. Listen, it's a butaneless, windproof, rechargeable.
1:56:37Is there another one? Yeah, for sure. He don't do nothing about it. You use the bone? Yeah. Oh, for real? There you go, homie. Yeah, okay. No, it's the fly shit, homie, especially for a bone. You said it's windproof? Windproof, and that ain't just no shit I picked up. No, me and the homies created that shit. I can help you just for me. Meaning that, listen, no, you can use it too, homie. Meaning that you don't got to. You could be in the woods lost to something, and that motherfucker going to light a fire with the wind blowing. Because it's, listen, but it's butaneless. You know, it's a healthy lighter, homie.
1:57:07Imagine never had to buy another lighter. There we go. Pro-Lite. Pro-Lite. Pro-Lite.com. Straight up.
1:57:13Adam22:Shout out to everybody who watched this live. Shout out to Mitchie Slay for pulling up and Dope Boy. Make sure y 'all smash the like button. And for the record, my homie Bumpy from Skyline Paru said whack is mandatory you call Mitchie. Straight up. I love that. Salute. Much love. You see what I'm saying? Much love, homie. I had a Skyline tell me it's mandatory whack you call Mitchie. See, you know, they might not understand what I'm saying. But that means something. Straight up. Facts. We have this thing. Shout out to everybody who watched Smash that like button. Peace.
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