Momma Duck on Lil Durk's Trial, if Rico Recklezz Shot FBG Duck, Big Mike Shooting Her House Up

33:07why he's still on that phone. He running up the street. Talking about he running from the killers. Ain't nobody chasing him. He trying to follow on the phone, running up the street, trying to see where Doc, Doc, car going when he busts the U and when in front of Doshan combined. All right, so that's the Gold Coast District, correct? He stayed down there till they shot him and then looked on his tippy toes, saw that my baby was down, hit my man and told him to come home and walk to his car. and left. Then text his baby mama three laughing emojis. Yeah, that's the type of power that my son had off words to make a motherfucker do him like that.

33:56And the crazy part is the dude who's making this phone call is actually from a hood you grew up in which is THF. Yes, no it's mama. One of the guys who shot duck Daddy got shot just like Duck got shot and lived. He's a paralegic right now. He's my cousin's best friend. I had the ability to, when he got shot in the 90s, to be there for him and nurse him back, catching the red line all the way to Morris, where he stayed at. His sister stayed up north. This when we was kids. Who father is this? C-Thing, mama. C-Thing. C-Thing, all right. Look just like him. know what I'm saying that shit cut so deep that some people kids that I helped and where I was raised is the reason of my son demise because you know what Duck would have never did anything to nobody from 4-6

35:00nothing maybe not him personally but people associated with him He can't help about who he associated with. See, a lot of people don't know me and Baizu talked so much. Because Baizu told the story about the funeral and how Duck went and Zu made sure. I'm going to let Baizu have it. Okay, because how he going to tell Duck or tell his guys not to come? I got baptized in that church. Went to the grammar school across the street from that church. but that was that was also years before the war kicked off though correct yeah i grew up in 4-6 ducked it yeah yeah i grew up in 4-6 so i know my kids know motherfuckers from 4-6 kids they ain't finna beef with them a lot of them kind of fake related baby daddy's his best friends and shit or cousins and shit.

35:56So that's how that went. And if that was the case, we was out there on the scene where my little cousin was stretched out just like his daddy wasn't under his fucking bones coming from under a sheet. Five blocks down the street, ten years later from where the police killed my cousin at. Same side of the street, 49th and Drexel, 45th and Drexel. Ten years later we were out there the whole family all us if something was gonna happen it would have happened see all this shit for the internet and all this shit I don't give a fuck about no internet you know what I'm saying I don't care about that stuff this shit mean to these babies the internet mean more than them then they morals then they life then they mama then they kids look at the situations happening behind motherfuckers getting on the internet the positive don't get praise it's just the negative so and and and bezu say he told them don't be on that we his family he probably did But we was coming.

37:21And I all white. That's my auntie's grandson. Why wouldn't we be there? You see all them pictures with Raheem. Who else you thought he was at when he was on that picture with Brian Scrap? I mean, with Scrap Brick when they had the yellow on. No, that's your house. That's my house. And my daughter's black and yellow party. When Wiz Khalifa came out with black and yellow. Yeah. Doug loves Wiz Khalifa. You see what I'm saying? I don't think he knew it, but he did. And when I saw what he did when he put my baby, I was like, wow.

38:02So a lot of them, you know what I'm saying? He was at Brown Frontal. That's just like duck friends telling him, you can't come, telling Raheem, you can't come to Brown Frontal. Make it make sense. That's my auntie whole grandson. and he got one left shout out doodle my little cuz which is Bezu's stepson yeah speaking of Bezu what was your thoughts when you heard that Bezu passed away and the circumstances behind it I didn't like that if you asked me nah not that you liked it but like I was upset because for one that's my cousin's stepdad he played a pivotal role in their life so it was a loss to them his son came you know what I'm saying I don't want to be speaking on people and I don't want them to be mad at me because that have happened I can't even really basically talk about my little cousins because I'm getting this is my family, this is my blood I'm going to talk about them but I mean well all my intentions are good nothing to be bad about one thing alright so back to the 6ix9ine situation when we was at 6ix9ine house or actually before you did the 6ix9ine interview you did an interview with Ross but I guess before Ross was wearing shorts and you noticed he had a picture of King Von tatted on his leg and that's kind of going viral now the footage that he released today or whatever the interview Well, it was Vaughn with the 10 shots around him for his 10 alleged bodies, right?

39:46Right. I didn't know. He brought that to my attention. I brought that to my attention because I just saw. I'm like, oh, you a real friend. I mean, fan. You really like, like, you got it. He's like, Mama Duck, you don't see the 10 skulls I got. So he brought that to my attention. Yeah, I didn't know that the skulls represented each person that King Vaughn allegedly killed. That's crazy. Allegedly. Yeah. That's crazy. So what was your thoughts when, like, because now, you know, the Internet's reacting to that. You saw my reaction. Yeah. Because I really watched it. We was driving. She was on a meeting.

40:21My manager was in a meeting, so I didn't turn it up. I just seen it. So I haven't really looked at it. But that don't make you feel a type of way towards Ross or anything, right? Why would I feel? Because that's what the comments like when you read the comments, everyone's like, she's sitting down with the guy who has the person. you gotta have them you ain't nothing if you ain't got a troll man you gotta have a troll they can pay but obviously like a white kid like Ross is gonna be a King Von fan sure but I would understand if you felt like the bullet holes or whatever around him were a little over the line because that's a little bit more as a mother it was kinda deep but I mean

41:08that's his take on it He a grown-ass man. He put whatever he want on his skin. But if you want my opinion, like, I was like, okay, I saw the tattoo, and then he put the skulls, and then I was like, oh, okay. You know, if it's true, it is what it is. I mean, that was the image he wanted. Why is everybody so mad about that? And that's the image that they may be portrayed. Like, that's what he wanted people to know about him. That's what he wanted people to think about him. So why is everybody so upset that he got the tattoo with the skulls? I'm not. I see why he got it. He was so loud about it. How do you feel when, like, news come out that they're saying that King Von basically would have been implicated in the Duck case if he was still alive?

42:06He would have. So would D-Dang. They both would have. Do you feel closure? I won't get no closure to they census. I haven't even forgave them kids. So within myself I haven't deep down rigorously honestly forgave them and I don't think I won't get any closure until they hear what I got to say. And once I go through that, and it will be closing for me. In a sense of like you have a direct message to those gods. Yes, I want to look them in their face. But you want to speak at the sentencing? I'm going to. I have six different impact statements. Two of them are very personal because they are the kids of two people who I grew up with.

43:01so I just want to see how remorseful they are how they feel because tonight it's just looking like they only going to be known for the rest of their lives as the people who killed duck nothing else it won't be for their music it won't be for nothing but killing duck that's their legacy and I want to know are y 'all fan with that? Or how stupid or f***ed up you feel now that the shit is coming down. Did y 'all see them little foolio people? Yeah, I've seen. That's what I'm wondering is if the O Block 5 or 6 will, if they'll do the like, hey, I'm a Christian now and I have so much empathy and blah, blah, blah, or if they'll stick with the gangster persona.

44:00I mean, how long they been like that since 2021? They have had quite a while. How long they ain't been since? It's three years. I mean, at this point, you would think they ain't got nobody but God, honestly. Get a religion and just get through it. I'll just never stop being fascinated by the fact that dudes will do the most gangster, heartless shit to get a rep and then they'll go on camera in front of the whole world and say the softest shit possible to try to get a lesser sentence like it's just the comparison between those two things is insane I feel so sorry for him the gamer from the Fulio thing I feel so sorry for him because he let a situation from my perspective me on the outside looking in Yeah.

44:53He grew up in a happy home, was well traveled. You done been to China seven countries before you 18 years old. So all that shit, you 20 now. You was 18 when you got locked up. So at what period of time did you meet these assholes that from the look of it convinced you to get all your mama guns from the army and load up and just go travel and shoot a motherf*****. But that's the allure of the streets. Even kids who don't have to do it will choose to. Damien, what's his name? Damien? Yeah. Baby, he proud of what he did. Yeah, the one, basically, he started clapping when the judge said, He proud of what he did because guess what?

45:41That shit hurt his family. See, some people can't take it. And then it made me think about Duck. Yeah. Now, Duck ain't never going, because they say he went to the grave, the baby grave, and defecrated or peed on the grave. Yeah. And what the media and what social media don't know is if the mama and the kids are still alive, why do that? Because we the ones got to see it. The family who ain't did nothing to you. these are the actions of somebody who verbally hurt you or from they've been worn for a long time probably tried to shoot you and then miss like it's a lot going on what's the most disrespectful thing you think someone's done to you about this situation about what about duck passing or like just in general like when you're saying it like that and you're saying the mothers and the family members like the people who don't know our situations just go off what they see on social media and say the harshest and the harmfulest shit and it only shows me they wasn't raised right they don't have a mother that's in their ear because how could you consciously possibly do that to a grieving mother because I used to think it was just me but I see they do that to that boy mama too they trolls the out of that lady living her best life what do y 'all expect for us to do as mothers the media not to not try to make peace just live in misery and sorrow we already gotta deal with the fact that we will never see our kids no more so now we gotta fall into this trap to where we gonna be mean and ugly and up because life been life in us not everyone take your approach though with it because like all right another person that could be on the internet and you know having moments is tukamon but we never hear or see anything from her because dominique crazy i'm dominique voice okay so she's staying by a lot of the things you say she's a little too sensitive and behind the scenes she she's still trying to figure out why is everybody dissing her song why is the world is she still triggered because all right because the thing is one thing you said today that called me you said you cry every day.

48:01Every day. Every day. She got a baby at 43 years old. She got a new baby. That's probably about 4 or 5. And Tuca would have been what 30? Yeah. Wow. That was a late pregnancy. Everybody think about that. Like sometimes we try to feel voids by doing other stuff. Yeah. You feel what I'm saying? Grief, I wouldn't wish it on none of y 'all. Y 'all got kids. However way they pass, it's just tragic because our kids are supposed to bury us. We're not supposed to bury our children. In other words, we're not supposed to outlive our kids. So when that happens, I see a lot of people be like, oh, my mama gone.

48:51My mama used to tell me all the time, I'm not going to bury y 'all. Y 'all going to bury me. She died five days after her 49th birthday. And that was in 2003. And not having my mama is fucked up. When you've always had her and her leaving so young. But you think about the word and it say we not supposed to outlive our kids. Maybe God felt she wouldn't have been as strong as me, how she would have lost one of us before she died. You know what I'm saying, Adam? I'm just like, I be real physic with this shit. I just be trying to just figure out ways to stay positive and not let the negative get me.

49:45No, I mean, losing a parent is the hardest thing for a kid to deal with, but then but you still know that that's the natural order of things that's how losing your kid is just you know i wouldn't wish it on my words yeah so you you don't think you can ever forgive the old block gods ever no i'm asking that i'm asking you that god forgave me yeah i'm just not in that moment right now i don't know if god forgave me instantly So I ain't going to forgive them instantly. But I know I've been blessed. And I've repented. And I apologize for it. Somebody took my$20 goddamn dollars today. I dropped it by the taco truck.

50:35And he was so slick with it. He eased his ass over there, put his foot on my$20 and dipped. So I'm looking for my$20. He gone. He done disappeared. I like he was on his phone and then. I'm like, I hated this honest person because I probably would have gave him that$20. It was how he did it. He was a black man. Like, yeah, he don't know what he did fucking with a motherfucker like me, taking my money. Just janky out here too. Yeah, I see. I'm like, he might be plotting on me now. I think he got a victim or some shit. But yeah, so I just try to, I live my life. I taught my kids to live their life, how they was raised, what, and life shit gon' happen.

51:27How would you feel if one of Duck's killers got stabbed or killed in prison? How would I feel? How am I supposed to feel, Autumn? Would you feel relief or would you feel a sign? If that happened, that's God's will. Doug died from God's will. Von died from God's will. All these babies died from God's will. I was just trying to see my post that went viral the other day on Taekwondo. And what did you say on the post? And I said, I beholden like that it really hits me because when he got killed, they were trying to kill Brick. Yeah. They missed Brick and hit him. So I carry that a lot. You know what I'm saying?

52:18I carry, and they were caught. They snitched on each other. That's what I'm saying. These people try to pick at shoes. Who the f***? Do what you gonna do. Let me ask you this. You think you would have been able, if anything happened with Duck or Brick, you think you would have been able to get them to snitch? What? If anything would have happened with Duck and Brick while they was in the streets, You think you would have been able to convince them? I would come to me and myself. They know the type. They know that. They know that. Because I would be there to support, especially if you out there.

52:52Now, if you defending yourself, baby, I'm going to get you the goodest lawyer. I'm going to do what I got to do, support you as your mother. But if you're out there being stupid, doing dumb shit, shooting at people and hit a three-year-old kid, Somebody grandma I'ma be the first to turn your ass in But knowing the lifestyle that Duck and Brick lived Do you think you could have got them to corroborate What lifestyle they lived I mean just being a street dude And being around street people Brick hustled You know he hustled as a hustler He did what he had to do He was young doing it He went to the penitentiary at 17 years old He got out when he was 19 That's when I was on 63rd.

53:39When he went to jail, I wasn't living on 63rd. When he got out, I was on 62nd and Wombat. Cause he got out in 2009. Yeah. Now when I moved on roads, he was locked up. He wasn't around. So he didn't really know them guys like Duck did. Duck got real familiar with them because he was staying with Boss Trail Mama, with Taffer, with my sister. He was staying over there, so that's how he really got to knowing Young and Dutch. Then they went to McCosh together, and they came over. Like, they always been Cups, but we lived on 99th and Lafayette. Like, Duck could have took in the hundreds. He could have got any hood he wanted to win, and that's why they mad.

54:28He wasn't bringing, like, danger or making money. You know what I'm saying? He was a leader in his own rights. That's what they hate. That's what they hate. He was a leader in his own right. Like Brick, Brick was more of 39th founder. He was only on 63 because duck. You know what I'm saying? Brick was actually beam team. When I seen him tatted that on his arm, I'm like, damn, you serious about that? He like, yeah, man. You beaming. Whatever they do that shit. This is like, all right, here's the question. See, I'm only 15 years older than Brick. That's what people don't understand. So y 'all kind of had a closer.

55:05We grew up together. I was a kid, having a kid. So by the time he was 15, I was 30. Yeah. Still really getting to know myself. So the relationship with me and Britt was way different from me and Duck because they were younger. You see what I'm saying? And Duck wasn't even a problem. Doug wasn't even the problem. Brick was the problem. Now from what I see, it seemed like Brick was the one that was really turned up. Brick was the problem. Brick, you wouldn't hear a peep out of Brick if you ain't fuck with him or heard nothing he loved. It seemed like he was a protector. Gee, a provider and a protector in every sense of the word.

55:54And you wasn't finna play with him. You heard the stories how he was over there after they pulled that stunt where O 'Block took his shit and thought it was going to be cool. Where O 'Block took shit from Brick? No. From Duck? Yeah, no, from the boys from Jairo. Break that down. I don't want you. Baby, you heard the story about they took Brick gone. From Jairo? Brick went over there and him and Duck out. J-Mai ain't telling best. That's how it was knocking motherfuckers out. They was like BD telling GD to knock them out. Brick was BD, allegedly. You see what I'm saying? Brick was BD, and Duck was GD, allegedly.

56:40I ain't never known. I know when I was a SOS coming up in the 90s, I got blessed in it. Like, I had to learn lit and all type of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I don't know how these gangs working now. They different. I was a kid, teenager. Didn't need a gang. I got 57 cousins. I just was fitting in. So was Brick ever getting shot and stuff like that? Yes. How many times Brick got shot? I remember I was on the bus. Somebody from 59 shot Brick. Rondo number nine shot brick. December the 26th, 2011. Break that down. How do you know it was Rondo? His cousin's birthday. Because you told me.

57:31Tay 600 tell this story all the time. He's just going to be mixing in no names. Well, I'm name dropping, goddammit. I'm letting you know this shit is pretty. So Rondo number nine shot brick. And break it down on how the day went. Okay. They was coming from downtown. They was on the orange line, trading to the Greenland. And my baby told me, this was the story he told me, they ran into them. I guess they was coming from downtown, stealing. But Jasmine, his girlfriend at the time, his baby mama was waiting. We waiting at the house. That's when I lived on 61st Avenue. Now, they on their way, they on the red line.

58:06Somebody like, Brick just got shot on the red, on the orange line. I'm like, what? I get to the hospital. He laying in the bed. He told me. He told me the story. He say, he didn't have no gun or nothing, but Shawty had a little pocket rocker. And he say, he just wanted to fight them. But he say, he upped it. And he told him, blow that motherfucker down. And he say, Shawty blew it, ma. What breed got shot at? In the side, and it came right out and landed in his hoodie pocket. It went straight through. It was a bullet like this big. It went through his side. And then there was another time when somebody from 59th shot him.

58:54In the arm, and they took the bullet out of his arm. That was the only two times that I know he got shot. And what about Duck? Duck? Duck got shot at the store on 57th State. I ain't gonna say who shot him because he's still out. You might do something to me. All right, so look, look, look. I'm just playing. There's a viral Reddit picture. So when Duck got shot, Duck never went to the hospital. There's like a viral picture of Duck with like a patch on his back. And they say. Now you trying to get into some shit. They saying that's from when he got shot. But he. No. I can't tell that story yet neither in due time.

59:36We're going to say that. Nah, but for what I heard is... What you hear, Raybo? I heard Rico Reckless popped him, and that's a big reason why they ain't friends no more. You did not hear no Rico Reck ass pop my phone. I promise I heard Rico Reckless pop your son. That's it, Sanctified Hard. No, you didn't. I promise I heard Rico Reckless pop your son, and that's a big reason why they ain't friends today. They not friends because Brick and Rico, when I stayed in Wugger World, Brick and Rico used to be cool, but he started trolling Brick after Brick. You know he went over there on the grave, I mean on the block where Brick got killed.

1:00:12Knowing we was all at the funeral. Out there trolling like yeah, nobody out. We at the funeral. We not trying to come over there and do nothing that you do, your ass is trolling. So that was what personal with Duck and Rico. He didn't shoot my son, please. I would know if Rico shot. I know exactly who shot my son. He got shot in the back the same day, Can't Get Right got killed. Remember they were saying Duck was out there? Yeah, yeah, when he was getting the food or whatever? No, I saw a video saying Duck posted, I don't know if it was where people, somebody did it, and they was like, this was the day Duck supposed to, he was out there too.

1:01:00No, Duck was nowhere around. Duck wasn't around when Melly died. Duck wasn't around when Can't Get Right died. He wasn't around. But earlier that day, some shit popped off, and a motherfucker accidentally shot him. So somebody accidentally shot Duck. Right. Because in the second story I heard, I heard. Accidentally shot him while they was trying to shoot his ass. And that's what I heard. I heard Wooski accidentally shot Duck when he was trying to shoot somebody else. I don't know. I ain't for the name drop. I don't even think Wooski was there, but okay, if that's what you know. I heard Wooski was aiming for Rico Reckless, but he shot Duck in the process trying to shoot Rico.

1:01:44I don't know who shot him, but I know that that's supposed to be some shit. And if that is true, that was personal. I did the video like that, while my son was trying to shoot you. I didn't mean that shit, I was speaking out for anger. And I was speaking because I was angry and I was mad because if I would have seen him, I probably would have punched him in his face. So I acted out. But, yeah, I've said that shit, a lot of shit out of anger that I hate I said. Yeah. But, you know, I have more control of what come out of my mouth now. But can't be getting angry at people who don't got a clue, don't know nothing until it happened to them.

1:02:30You see what I'm saying? everybody mad at me like grief is is it's like you don't never know when it ends because you gonna always see behaviors from people that then lost kids you know what I'm saying so a person who ain't never lost a child wouldn't understand it you know what I'm saying but But I just think that I'm tired of these babies losing. I'm tired of these mamas losing their babies. My daughter, the little boy who's going viral now, went to school with my 15-year-old. The 14-year-old that got shot by his friends in the alley. Bless his heart. My condolences goes out to his mom, but he was a schoolmate of my daughter's.

1:03:24and when I first see the picture, my reaction was like, this baby 14, he look like he about 25, 20, you know what I'm saying? Because of his mustache, he had a mustache at 14. So I'm like, okay, made me think about Young had a mustache since he was 12. Young had that mustache that he got in that instance. He was like, he always looked the growner. Shout out Young. Shout out Young, man. He think I'm mad at him right now, but I'm not. I love all them kids. And ain't nothing they can do about it. Just keep that shit over there. It's just Manny you don't really f*** with. At all. Because he wrong in every sense of the word.

1:04:06And I don't even want to talk about him. So we going to just move on to something else for real. Because that conversation would definitely change my attitude. And I'm trying to stay in good graces. Yeah, no, I hear that. How do you, all right, one thing. I'm asking this because I know YouTube videos vloggers or whatever made videos about it but like I guess there was like footage of the cars leaving O Block headed to downtown coast did they show that in the courtroom of course alright but then later on apparently some of those cars ended up being in the vlog that Boss Top was in you know anything about that that Boss Top was in Boss Top shot like a vlog or whatever after the fact that wasn't the cars The problem is that the car, because they had the cars already.

1:04:50All right, well, that's just. They had a Kenny Mac car, and they got Lowe's car from the dealership. So, that guy killed August 4th. That video was shot August 31st, right? Right? All right. So, there was just cars that looked like the car. But you see people trying to say, like, oh, they got the cars in the video. No, but two of the killers that I know was in that video were one, C-Thang. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? C-Thang was in that video. Just like he had Queso talking about he smoking duck duck. He on the phone with Queso talking about, wait you, and he just so just a lanky ass goofy.

1:05:26And I - You talking about Queso from Jacksonville? No, yeah, Queso from Jacksonville, but I'm talking, and that's how I look at them. Yeah. I look at all them boys that's locked up for killing my son like some goofies. Cause that's what they were. How do you feel about Ballstop changing his life and - Bo stopped setting this shit and said I was slow, didn't he? Oh, she got a problem. That lady crazy. Yeah, she got a problem. It seems like he's... You don't think he had a change of heart since then? Because he's saying that he's done with all that shit. No, I mean, I made a comment on this. I say, God, forgive everybody.

1:06:03Like, if you are sincere with what you're doing, it's going to really show. You ain't going to have to front. You ain't going to have to try to prove to nobody you changed. They're going to see it in your actions, how you speak, how you carry yourself. I just think them boys made a mockery of the Muslim faith. There I said it. I don't care. And if Allah is a God that they serve, what you think going to happen to them for blaspheme? Let's talk about some real shit. what you with playing with God and his religion and his beliefs like one minute they have prayer the next minute they have video shoots like gonna kill everybody and you know what I'm saying but who is the real person?

1:06:57It do seem like Boss Top really did change his life like from what I see so far like I don't see him When I did that interview with him he seemed like he was just hella jaded to the whole street shit and he was ready I mean, he said I was crazy because of what I said. Did I lie about what I said? I can't remember exactly what he said. When he said, I peed up. Ah, don't let nobody say nothing. Nothing about T-Roy. So was I crazy because he did say that out his mouth, right? One thing she said though. She said my name. Yeah, she said, thank you to Boss Top for opening this big ass mouth. But we all know, like, that boy, Mama, like, she's just, like, be talking.

1:07:38You feel me? Like, I guess she was, like, going through a lot. But their paperwork came out. Like, their whole discovery was all over the internet. You know what I'm saying? And nothing I said, no interview I did, no nothing. Nothing was nothing. Yeah. my name nowhere in my interview nowhere and uh you see what i'm saying she's like delusional that lady delusional like it's a lot of people like from both sides lost their mom i mean their kids and you don't see their moms like that like she's like i don't know like i think this she drove her crazy or something like and i i i i you know i wish the best for you know should nobody mom go through that.

1:08:28So you don't think you being investigated by the federal government that they ain't pick that shit up? Was that used in the courtroom? Yes it was. So that vlog? All of it was. Yes. That shit was so crazy, but you know, majority of the time I was in the overview room. Like when they read the verdict, I wasn't in the actual courtroom with them. You have her - I was in the overflow room. You have a relationship with Lil Pop's mom. Yeah. How did that relationship form and who reached out to who? I think she reached out to me. She's not really social media-like. You know what I'm saying? She's not.

1:09:16And I can understand. That was her only child. So it's different from what I'm feeling. I know I had 10 and only got five, but she just had one. But he left her some beautiful grandbabies. So I just had to talk to her. I mean, I guess she reached out to me because our cases are so familiar. Don't y 'all think? Like, when you think, like, her baby got caught up in some stuff that had something to do with another person who they didn't get. But it was by the same people and organization that took my son away from you. Yeah. So that's why I'm coming with this. I'm trying to bring the mothers of peace in the forefront.

1:10:10And I don't know how she's feeling. but I just know I talk to her sometimes and I could just see the hurt in her face and then there's days when I talk to her that she upbeat and she, you know what I'm saying? So it's a process. I just pray for her every day. I just pray that she can just get through because it's just beginning for her. Let's see, I'm almost at the end of the road once they sent us these guys and my son. So she hasn't went through the trial process or seen the videos or had her son, because I had to watch that shit. That was the hardest part of the trial, I'm guessing.

1:11:02Did you see the videos before the trial? Because they leaked on the internet. Yeah, they showed me before they leaked that I seen it because they wanted to prepare me before they didn't want it being in court the first time I seen it was there part of you that didn't want to see it I didn't want to see him after he was shot cause when they finally told me and they was like you want to see him and I was like no I don't want to see him like that I didn't see him until he got to the funeral home and he just looked so peaceful like he was sleeping I'm just so glad that he still had his head on his shoulders and he didn't have to get no refiguration done to him

1:11:58and knowing that he could have lived it just really just and they said he could have lived just like due to the paramedics being slow or Yeah, like I think if they would have got him to the hospital quick enough, I mean, I would have took him a vegetable. I would have just in a wheelchair. Apparently, I just would have took him. But it was meant to happen because it happened.

1:12:30I'm sorry. I ain't trying to make this interview. No, I hate that. The first time that I really was able to talk about a lot of stuff because of everything that's going on. So I'm sorry. We can get back to the story. No, I'm sorry that you have to go through everything that you've been going through and I can feel your pain just even talking to you. I just, from May 19th, Adam and Remo, remember I told you before, the day you called me was the day my grandbaby got off life support. my 22-month-old grandbaby was on a eat a ecmo machine you ever heard of that uh a ecmo google it look it up to help you breathe or it's like a rest it's like a a life support machine like he was literally on five machines to keep him alive and when you called me to about the trap lure that was i wasn't leaving that hospital that's So I'm saying all that was just happening that day.

1:13:39They took my grandbaby off life support. Then you called me with the interview and it was like everything was going. And then he came home. When I came home, he got released three days later. That's good, that's real good. So he doing good. Now he did, he took him to his first baseball game He'll be two on the 13th of July. And I got Brick Day coming up. We always just celebrate the family and stuff. Life goes on, y 'all. You got to be built for this shit. Ain't shit weak about life. Life is not for the weak. Yeah. But do you ever feel like life has just served you a disproportionate amount of trauma?

1:14:34It probably did, but my faith gets me through it, Adam. Life, you know, just know. I just sit there pouring my heart out to y 'all. Somebody is somewhere 50 times worse in a situation than I'm point. When I lost my twin in that fire, I think about that because I stayed on the fourth floor. And I think about the circumstances and how I got third degree burns on my feet trying to find my baby and trying to save her. And if that fire would have came out that room, the only way me, he was only eight months at the time, my other daughter, and her twin, we would have had to jump out the window. And I just feel like that situation, it could have been five dead people with steady one.

1:15:31That's what I mean about. Like, I could just imagine how this little girl would be going on 16 years old. But her sister, her sister is just like, she was a fresh, she playing varsity. She got colleges trying to scout already. So, you know, I do have a 15-year-old that could be a YN, but she not. So I'm proud of that, too. Are you on high alert for that now? Yeah, because she be trying, Adam. She want to be a part of the teen runways, whatever they be doing, the teen thing. Yeah, the teen takeover. What's the teen takeover? When all about 1500 teenagers get together and just storm a hood. They go at High Park, they go downtown.

1:16:21They go in different - Just any random neighborhood? Just any random, they make flyers. Teen takeover 87 and Ada, they make flyers. Yeah, really? And one time I tied to Chicago Police Department and they said, y 'all gotta stop this, get y 'all kids. because now they making the parents suffer. They used to do us back then, back in the day. I remember we used to have curfew, be in the house about 10 o 'clock. If you under 13, under 17 years old, your ass had to be in the house at 10 o 'clock. And if you want, you got a curfew slip. You got three of them bitches, your ass either going to jail or your mama getting fined.

1:17:02They shouldn't have never stopped that. They trying to bring it back now. Yeah. So how was it? Because then Trump sent the National Guard to Chicago. What changes did you see when that happened? Was there any? I don't even know. I don't live in Chicago. So if I don't see it on the news, I really don't know too much about what the fuck be going on in Chicago. That's my city, but I'm far away from there. So no reason for you to ever go back to 63rd or anything like that? I mean, my cousin lived right there on 62nd and Everhart. I was just over there. So you still frequent? My son, I go like, why wouldn't I?

1:17:46I mean, as long as I don't see the wrong person. That's what I'm saying. At this point, besides family. But I don't think nobody want to play with me, though, for real. I don't even be worried about that. I don't think no. Why? All I do is advocate for my son. You never almost got shot or been shot at dealing with all this? Because one thing you did say, you said Big Mike shot up your house. He did. And no one knew that. 2011, September 25th, 2011. Wow. Because I moved over there April 12th. And I remember them kids, like, earlier when I was gone, somebody supposed to shot off my back porch. Yeah.

1:18:27But I was gone. Somebody supposed to shot that one. Because, you know, I stayed right behind 800 over there on Cottage Grove, 61st. and one of them was supposed to the boy bought Smooth you know they used to get into it with the Smooth and the other little boy Fats and like them little boys and I'm throwing my daughter a birthday party all the kids was in the back cause I had this enclosed back porch now all these babies is in the back it's about 7 or 8 babies and they was getting on my nerves I swear to god I was like Like, uh-uh, come on, we trying to cut this cake. Y 'all got to get ready to go home.

1:19:09The minute I got the babies out the back of the house, we in the front because I had a little long hallway. They in the front room, the table, the door right there, the front room right there. I had a room in the front room. That's where I called J-Maine cracking his grill at. That's where I first met J-Maine. Yeah, they used to be on bullshit like that. But we sing happy birthday. Now, I think I made two plates, cut two pieces of cake, scooped two things of ice cream, and I gave them to the twins. All of a sudden, I just hear glass break it. And I'm like, then I'm here, she'll come through the refrigerator.

1:19:49I'm like, what? And then somebody was like, they shooting the back of your house up, Sheena. And I just made everybody get on the floor. and these kids had the audacity to still be in front of the house after they did it across the street. And my reaction, I first, I say, so you bastards really just shot up the back of my house doing a kid's party? And I let them know, whoever did it, I'm so glad that y 'all ain't shoot one of them kids because that's all who was back there. I let them know that, that they could have shot a kid. But how you let them know? Because I went out there after they shot my house up and they had to be across the street in front of the house.

1:20:32Like Big Mike and them still hanging out? I ain't see Big Mike, but I saw Smooth. I saw the black boy Smooth. And I'd say, y 'all just shot the back of my house up. He was like, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm like, you bitch ass little boys just really shot the back of my house up. You weren't worried about them shooting you right then? I swear to God I wasn't. You know I just had an incident last year at my grandbaby's birthday party at Hollywood Park. I'm in there with my grandbabies. My, my, my, brick baby mama. Brick daughter birthday. Brick baby mama and her friend, they in the car.

1:21:09They smoking. They see a black truck on the side of her car. Now, they don't know that these people is with me. Baby, she done called me, said, Sheena, we got to go. I said, what? For what? She said, sent me a video. the little boy he's talking about, I say, you will never guess who up in here. And whoever he's talking to on the phone, they like, Mama Duck. And then he like, yeah, but she ain't even worth the bullet or some shit. Oh, shit. So the video, and I say, what? So she say, one of the little boys coming in right now. They couldn't have been no older than 17 years old. Some kids. I got my phone in my hand.

1:21:51I'm walking. I say, I'm glad you realized I ain't worth the bullet. Now he lost, cause he trying, he don't know who out there watching him. Her mama duck. You think I'm up here by myself? So he like, damn, how she know we said that? So I walk up to the truck. They got the black book bag on the car. They got the black, they got on the wagon gear. I say, all I do is advocate for my son and y 'all wanna kill me? Y 'all really wanna kill me? Now the nigga that they with, he comes around and say, Mama Duck, we know who you is. And he done named drop two motherfuckers that I don't even fuck with no more.

1:22:31So now I'm thinking, who he on the phone talking to? Had all the people that say, you know, you gonna name drop these motherfuckers? Okay. He say, Files, I know Mama Duck. You probably got, I say, why I'm up here with my grandkids? I say, yeah, but I got people. I'm telling them to stay in the car. This is how I'm doing them. I'm defending them like, don't get out the car. While I talk to these kids. And then he was like, Mama Doug, we ain't on there. We sorry. Nah, y 'all don't do that. You know what I'm saying? Because if you thought I was up here in this public-ass place by myself, you're sadly mistaken, baby.

1:23:20and they fucked his head up because how he know? I know he said that. So he know the truth. He's like, damn, she got motherfuckers out here for real. Somewhere. So that was the end of that. Nah, I feel God too much to feel anything else for him. Does it bother you that in a situation like that that you still have to have people with you and you have to move around like that? I mean, it's only right. I mean, I'm known for celebrity, I guess, especially in Chicago. You know what I'm saying? But I always go out places by myself and I ran into nothing but love and positivity. Like I've never had an incident outside of that one where nobody was wanting to harm me.

1:24:11Did it bother you when Big Mike got released and went around doing a bunch of viral interviews and shit like that. When Mike, little Mikey. No, Big Mike. What Big Mike? The one that got shot. He did what? You said Big Mike shot up your career. Yeah, but you said in an interview, do I, what? No, but he's going around doing No Jumper, doing DJ U, doing all these different interviews. He did the No Jumper? Yeah. When? Ain't he mixing that? A couple years ago. Nah, he ain't mixing that. Nah, he ain't mixing that. Maybe he will now. Yeah, he probably will. Let me ask you those. I know for sure he was the one who shot up my house.

1:24:46How did you find that out? And then also, what's the conversation like? Because that's Wooski brother, but Wooski on y 'all team. Smooth said it. He confirmed it. Because he said it. Yeah, we made your mama near move. We shot your shit up, and that's why your mama had to move. That's not why I was having to move, mother fucker. My low income came. Why don't you? Yeah. That's why I moved off Evans. But you wouldn't, a situation like that wouldn't make you move anyway? What, after my house got shut up? Yeah, like your house getting shut up. Kids only getting shot. Not when your stepdaddy is the head of the stones and they still got structure and he didn't sink you.

1:25:23You on the block and can't play with your house or nothing. Nah, but I was moving anyway. But they were still playing with your house if they coming through shooting it up. Nah, that was the last time they did that. And that was like September and I moved in April of 12. I moved in May, matter of fact, because first time I moved, I moved on Holman and Douglas. When I left 63rd, on May 2nd, they was having the true religion Fifi. That's when I started. That was around the time with Chief Keefe. What's a true religion Fifi? When everybody at the Fifi have on true religion. Okay. See, in 2012, it was really popping back then.

1:25:59Everybody was wearing trues. Yeah. So we done got into the fight with Breeze and everything, me living out there, because Chief Keefe, I just got sad, and they like we from Tukerville, and my nephew and scrap before scrap died he told me I'm out there fighting grow on there rest in peace little Johnny I got cool with all the motherfuckers cause when I first moved over there I say I gotta know the big homies I gotta get to know the big homies over here so I started cooking Sunday dinner selling plates so they started calling me Southside they like man Southside you can cook your ass I was really selling five corn meals for$10.

1:26:44Like, you would get a meat, two sides, cornbread, and a pie for$8. $8 or$10, depending on the meat I was cooking. And they was eating that shit up. And that's how I got acquainted with them. That's how, you know, they like, Southside, yeah, we fuck with you Southside. And then Brian got out of jail from that shit, and he came over to my house. out west and that boy was 26 years old and Brian was only 15. Brian is a scrap. Yeah, and Brian hit, no, my nephew Dre hit the boy so hard. They was kids at the time. These was grown-ass men trying to fight them. And Brian made a statement like, boy, you must don't know what I do to motherfuckers.

1:27:33He a kid, though. He telling this to a grown-ass man. But at this time, you know I'm Brian Capable. After they fought, that ain't shit. Cause I don't know if I think I'm immortal or something. These is Kanika Jenkins people. I didn't find that out till after we moved from over. I mean, when she passed away and I see kills and all them. Yeah. And I'm like, damn, this is my world. That little baby probably was out there at the time too or whatever, but it got so bad. Little J, Spoon, Duck, Trial. I don't know. It was like five of them. They coming out the crib. Now, this was after they fought the breeze.

1:28:15So every last one of them got a gun on them. Everybody got a gun on them. They trying to go to the bus stop and go, I guess, back on 63rd or whatever. These people surrounded us like we was a breadcrumb, and they was ants. It was literally 40 like they got us around and now we up on the gate. And I'm just thinking, I'm like, Lord, and I could see one of them telling them to sneak and shoot. I'm watching this boy, this grown ass man telling him, shoot, shoot, shoot. So I jumped in the middle of them. Now I know what they got. And I don't know what these people in front of me got. I literally jumped in front of them and threw my hands up and say, If y 'all shoot I'm gonna get it both ways Y 'all gonna kill me right here If y 'all shoot You gonna get me in the back This time I'm talking to them And then I took off Cause a detective cop was right past I took off Didn't give a fuck who had no gun And ran to the police car to try to stop him The detective cop kept on going Wasn't even stopped When all these kids got us surrounded That's how I know the police ain't shit They don't care you genuinely feel like the police and none of them really care because a lot of the murders ain't bad police yeah how come you feel like a lot of the murders in chicago go unsolved they don't got the resources and the witnesses ain't talking and they just you know the police ain't there it's only so much they can do but without nobody speaking up and saying nothing it makes their job harder so shit do your job investigate where your forensics at where your shit at, dude.

1:29:55You know what I'm saying? But they don't want to tell unless it happened to them. Do you see the situation a lot where somebody gets killed in a neighborhood in Chicago and they just barely do anything to try to look into it as far as you know? I know so many unsolved murders. They trying to convince me that, oh, but I killed Brick and Kobe and I know for a fact they didn't. The cops were trying to convince you that? Yeah. They trying to say that a person who I know for a fact wasn't even here because he died in jail. They just want to put it on him. That's how I feel the situation is. But I knew from the get-go who killed my son in the cause.

1:30:34That's when he was jumping on the fence and trying to run it. He got locked outside the house or something, right? I don't know. I wasn't there. But it was all to take. All I know when they jumped out the car, they shot Kobe, and Brick tried to take off. He got caught in the back. and whenever he jumped because they caught, they found him in the gangway. When he jumped the gate, somebody was back there waiting on him because he got shot in the eye. One of the bullets was in the eye. Now, after the boy, I don't know if he jumped the gate, but I know people who was out there. And when he jumped the gate, I could see him jumping the gate with the back shot.

1:31:20the butt shot, the back shot because he running. But the face shot, I can't see him catching a face shot and still trying to jump that gate and run. I don't know. Do adrenaline be rushing like that? Can a person do that? Physically? So that let me know. And it was at close range because he had a stibble on his face when I went to identify him. Because they didn't tell me that at first. They just said he was shot such and such. And then when I went to identify I sink the hole under his eye. And I'm like, and he had abrasion on his face from where he feel. Are you numb to all this yet? Like just violence and death?

1:32:01Am I numb to it? I'm around it every day, man. Like it's not nothing you get numb to. It's just something. It's a reality. It's a reality. That's all that go on in the world I live in. How do you feel or did you see Lil Durk's mom do that interview and she's finally speaking out? I seen it. What was your thoughts on hearing her speak out and her side of how everything and her son's life played out? I just give her the utmost respect for even being strong enough to even speak on it because it takes a lot. He had to be really built and grounded to speak on it. Because you were the first person to really be like an outspoken rapper mother speaking out on her son's behalf after he got killed.

1:32:50You kind of created that. And we haven't really seen anybody quite as vocal as you. I'm kind of because I know I'm not the only one. Y 'all ain't finna make me sing like I'm the only one that my kid died over some stupid shit, whether they wrong or right. We're just used to seeing the moms be more quiet. And it looks like they with the shit. And I was never with the shit. I was with the shit, but I wasn't with the shit. I was with making sure my kids were safe. I was with letting them babies feel like they had a second mama in me. I was cooking them kids food, like, not knowing where their moms at, and a lot of their moms I knew.

1:33:26You know what I'm saying? All right, you said some shit, not saying that I'm telling you to snitch, but you said that you would. Earlier in this conversation, you said your sons know you'd be the first person to tell or say something, right? then you said that the police is trying to convince you that somebody killed brick that you know didn't kill brick. So for someone you saying that, you know, all these unsolved murders. No, I just know that one. I don't know a lot of them. But all right, you still stick to the G code. You still stick to the G code somewhat because you're not willing to tell the police exactly what you know and let them do their job.

1:34:02The police know what the fuck they know. At least the Chicago police. Obviously not, because they came to you telling you somebody. I'm the victim's mother, and they opened the case back up. These were the cold case people. No, but what I'm trying to say is they're telling you that someone killed your son, and you saying, I know for a fact. Because I'm cool with his mama. But you're still not willing to give them the information they need to solve it, so you kind of stick to a cold somewhat? What you mean? Like you still like. I went on the internet to the world and said who I thought killed my son.

1:34:38So you think I wouldn't tell the police that? Oh, so you did tell them about the brick situation? No, I didn't. You saw the paperwork. I didn't even mention it. They dropped the paperwork. I just said what I said. Yeah. I didn't say it to the police. I said it on my own time. Yeah. They can take what they want to do with that shit. I don't care. You feel like you still, you know, being a mother, you still feel like you don't want to speak to the police about anything? like you being from Chicago you still staying on the street morals and ethics okay I'm not a street person I'm a mom and a grandma you would have asked me that 40 years ago I would have been all with the shit hell yeah fuck them all but as I got older and mature as any person would be that went through all this life shit that could have killed them and didn't that's purpose right there.

1:35:29And I'm figuring that out. So I'm at a point in my life I know I serve a purpose and I don't know what it is. Maybe it's me being outspoken mom. You know what I'm saying? We all have a duty under God to do. I'm trying to be remembered positively once I leave this world. You see? Because that damn Oprah, if I ever see, I could tell y 'all some shit about Oprah, but I ain't gonna do it right now. Oprah? Yeah. What do you got about Oprah? I got some good shit about Oprah, but I'll be getting deep. We gonna say that for the next interview. Were you trying to get on Oprah? Was I trying to get on Oprah?

1:36:07Now, did you hear what she said about Whitney? No. Talking about Whitney was high. Y 'all didn't see what - You know what Whitney was high? Yes. But the whole world was saying Whitney was high. No, I'm talking about this particular, she called herself telling the story, talking about one day Whitney was so high, she tripped and fell on stage. The hairdresser that spoke out, you got all the stars, all the celebrities, they speaking out. But I know, I'ma shut up, cause she might get all my, she a powerful woman. I ain't finna fuck with her. And I got receipts, but I'ma just leave that. And it probably was in the tabloid before, but I was like, how can she talk about Whitney smoking crack?

1:36:44Cause she used to smoke crack. Oprah used to smoke crack? Like everybody used to. You're like the Oprah of the Rock. Really? Nah, don't call me her. Nah, uh-uh, not the Oprah of the Rack. I'd rather be the Wendy Williams of the Rack than Oprah of the fuck that. I ain't fucking with. Oprah of a billion of. Man, a trillion. Let me stop talking, cause she might open some doors for me. Man, I ain't trying to be on that Epstein list, so I ain't fucking around. Do you, uh. I ain't fucking, baby, that's what they tried to hide under the table. They want to take our man off the big shit and just keep on putting this other frivolous ass shit in front of us to keep our attention on that.

1:37:28Nah, I see shit. How do you feel about, you know, I don't know if you was outspoken about this, but people are trying to, like, connect dirt to what happened with Cash. How do you feel about that situation? And what do you think? You think the feds, because you said the feds, we know that the feds are investigating dirt, but people have been trying to tie like there's a whole bunch of people doing Do you think it's a coincidence like either he was being followed because then too many people know where Sonya lived at a lot of people ain't know where his mama lived at So he got killed outside his mom's house?

1:38:07Yes he was on his way to his mama's house and this was out her mouth she said my baby called me and said open the door and as soon as she went downstairs finna go open the door That's when she heard all the gunshots.

1:38:25But you said, do I think it's a coincidence? Only two people knew it. How is that? I don't know how many people. I know the people that allegedly killed them. I ain't know. That's just common sense. Who want to kill somebody that bad? Besides the person that brag about it. And at this time, Cash has. They was trying to convince me that all type of motherfuckers killed Duck. No, they didn't. Only Duck was cool with everybody. Only one specific group that wanted my son out the way. Why do you think Vaughn? All right, well, let's keep the Cash situation. So do you think, why do you think people are trying to connect it to Dirk, though?

1:39:14Because at one point, Dirk, and I mean, Cash had a song that was heating up. like Cas musically. So again, they killing people over the song and him standing by by a mirror. That's a reason for you to die. That's what you want to tell me. I mean, he was being pretty disrespectful. And is that a reason to risk your life and your freedom? In their mind, seemingly, yes. It's crazy. It's crazy, but. It's crazy. Where are the parents? You think I put that type of motivation in my son's head? I for I kill, kill, kill. They did it to you. Do it to them. Nah, but even in Duck's situation, and Duck would hear a nigga say something and then he made Chicago Legends and then a nigga would say something and he'd get mad and get triggered.

1:39:52With the music. And then he'd make dead bitches. So you think Duck wasn't mad? He and a mainstream star got a whole lookalike of him in a video. You rich. Why you still talking about some broke motherfuckers? Right? Because he knew. Let's think about it. Beef is good for marketing. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And that's why Dirk didn't want to patch it up either. But you couldn't beat with nobody that was in it. And when you did beat with a motherfucking wags, this is as much as money as you. You see what? Damn, that's deep. That's facts that happened. There's not nothing I'm making. Do you feel like, in a sense, King Von was also helping Duck out while he's being famous?

1:40:41Well, look. Because him being at the height of his career, he's dissing. But see, Duck would have been famous too if it wasn't for the Black Bown. It's not like, no, they picked the side. They picked the side. But one thing I will say is King Von. The fans picked the side. But Von made Duck famous in a way that Dirk didn't. Dirk might have been beefing with him, but he wasn't like putting a fake version of his music video. Right, he was even telling Von at one point, stop mixing it here. Stop talking about him. We rich. We don't need to fuck them broke ass niggas. I'm saying like. But Vaughn was a lot more aggressive about using beef to market the music than Dirk was.

1:41:19So are you saying so or is it safe to say that you do agree that the beef is behind the music, the music is for marketing like the beef is a marketing strategy? Which was the basis of your lawsuit. Right. No. I'm saying period. I mean for the most part yeah. Period. They use the music to market and sell. I mean, but I'm just saying common sense. Do y 'all know if you talk about dead people, you're going to get like comments. You cannot even tell my son, please don't do that. You say, Ma, they keep on talking about my brother. Why they keep talking about my brother? All right. So also that's powerful too.

1:42:06So when you're hearing Took It to the O, and you're hearing the Brick line. Hey, he got the professional video. Like, he getting back. What was your take when you first heard that song? You heard the references to your son? This is a charging song. Took It to the O, he's mentioning Brick. He say, he mercy on Brick. He mercy on Brick. He mercy on Brick. And threw it at his whip. When I, I didn't know the song until I heard him say the bitch got six, four bitch calls from her mama and six calls from Duck. I was like, oh shit. This ain't drannopin', okay? But it was all entertaining to me. It wasn't that serious to duck.

1:42:46He could have got some broke motherfuckers to do that. I'm just saying, just think about it. Why do you think Von wanted your son dead out of everybody, though? That rap-a-lot picture. That rap-a-lot picture. So you feel like the rap-a-lot picture was the main... When he post it, the day that Lowe's bought that car. This ain't no coincidence. The day Lose bought that car, my son posted a picture with Eazy, you know, one of the A &Is from Rapper Lot. And I was there at the phone car when he was on the phone with Jay Prince. It happened in my house. I was right there. And my baby words to Jay Prince was like, just get me out that contract.

1:43:27Get me out that contract, which is the contract he thought was with Sony, but it was with Manny because when J Prince reached out to Sony, that's how it got broke down. We don't have a contract with Sony. We have a, I mean with Duck, we have a contract with Clout Boy Inc. Which is the label that from word of mouth that Manny made Duck sign some contract to present to them, to make it look legit. So you think Vaughn seeing that? All them did. Nah, but all right, so you saying - Cause if he had the 50 ,000 at first, cause it was already in the street that it was 50 ,000 put on. Yeah. After that date, it went up to the honey.

1:44:12What are the other 50 ,000? In the sense of like, all right, this nigga about to make some money off rap. We need to get him gone before this nigga get guns. If that GD ass motherfucker got some money, how they was getting money - Then they gonna be on and popping - They ain't got no other choice but to squash the beat. Or just, cause he was gonna get money regardless. Yeah. yeah

1:44:35but it had to be something like before the music there was the music side of that but then it's like what went down for them in high school where there's so much hate for King Vaughn I don't know my brain ain't going back that god damn far I don't know why them kids I know I had to go get me and my brother had to go get Duck one day cause he was fighting and I found out It was an altercation with some people he was hanging with and he was hanging with. So me and my brother, we went and got ducked. You see the Courtney from TYMB video, the twin. Did you see his interview? He did. And he'll tell you himself, ducked them mama walked them to school every day.

1:45:19They wasn't out here. She and ducked mama didn't play. She came and picked them kids up and walked them to school every day. Sure did. That ain't nothing to be ashamed of. Do you know about the rumor that Duck and I guess Butter and some other people supposedly beat up Vaughn on the bus? I don't know about that. You don't know about that? I don't know. I just know what I know. And I don't know nothing about that. But hey, they gonna believe it anyway. Since we tell something before, can we get an update on where you're at with the lawsuit? Where is that? It's gonna be where it be. I can't really talk about that right now.

1:45:57I don't know what's going on. My lawyers, they just do their job, and I just. But did you settle with D &G? They settled, yeah. So that part is already resolved. Yeah, and it actually went to the kids' estate. It got split up with its kids. That's what people don't know. I don't get no money. Yeah, everyone think that you got the money, but the money actually went to the kids. And they can't get it until they're 21 or 18 or however they are. is set up. Oh, really? So the money, pretty much no one got the money physically yet. No. But they will get it. When it's time for them to get it. Why was it set up that way?

1:46:36Because they minor kids of the estate. Word. It's theirs. It's their daddy money. I got you. I got you. So, I mean, I just... I just... And then you're still legally fighting the other one with King Von the estate, correct? Like, that's still ongoing? Well, all the lawsuits is still ongoing. The sentences is still ongoing. I'm just caught up in court shit. I don't know how long. Crazy five years later, you're still dealing with it. It's not really resolved. I mean, obviously, you know who did it and everything, but the door isn't really closed on all the loose ends.

1:47:17Have you received any money from slot? Not a damn. Duck, I think Duck sold that song to where Manny did. I don't know how that shit go. But, you know, I do got the plaque, though. It was nice enough to give me the plaque, you know, from it. So it's hanging in the wild, and I put a six-and-a-half head on the side of it.

1:47:47And you know it's a double bib. It look like a duck bib. Yeah. It looked like two hats. Because he got the duck built, and I think that's why he gave it to me. You got hyped when you saw that Josh had a Mighty Ducks jersey. He's a hockey guy. Yeah, I love that jersey. I'm going to have to go get me one. For sure. One last time you talk to Butter. Because you know, your daughter has two kids. I talked to Butter the other day. Lord, let's not talk about Butter. Is he doing good? Yeah, he does. But a good though? He in good spirits? He ain't smoking spice in there? I don't know what he's smoking.

1:48:25I'm not a jailbird. I don't know how them people do to survive up in that place. I'm surprised he ain't smoking drywall. He in prison. Don't rule it out. Three hocks in a cot. God damn it. He told me he was taking - You drinking water with the same - You drinking and pissing in the same water. That shit is horrible. Yeah. He's gonna understand these babies. How do you be feeling when you be seeing all the leaks of Lil' Jay with like the trans women, transgenders and shit. I don't think about nothing. I know you see the footage though. I'ma say this and I don't be paying attention to that shit because whatever that man do in his life, that's his life.

1:49:01But me personally, I just know he bitches all the time. Like the girls be trying to kill theyself, fighting her. Like I don't know, but it's a lot of freaky shit going on. A motherfucker called me one morning, talking about something, come up. I ain't gonna even say that. Let me shut up. Nah, go on. No, no, no. You're gonna tell us the zesty secrets of Chicago? No, no. They say come up and do what? No, no. Like, it was some weird shit. And I can't get it out the back of my head because all I'm thinking in my mind is like, you call me at 5 o 'clock in the morning, talking about come do this after you told me that a f***ing trainee was in your inbox.

1:49:44So far as I'm knowing, and he probably sucks you off and now you want some coochie. I don't know. It's in the back of my mind, so it kind of fucked my head up. Yeah, what the? Yeah, what the? Uh-huh. So I don't know, but it's a lot of freaky shit going on. Do you think gay people should be allowed in gangs? Or do you think gangs should have a policy against that? A gay motherfucker will kill you. They got their own community. They got their own gangs. They just not really talked about. Okay. Like what's wrong with gay people? Gay people ain't no different from a regular person. I think people get it mixed up because a sin is a sin, right?

1:50:28And my take on that, people shine on gay people because, oh, God, they make that the number one sin God don't like. But my take on it is that God is a God of production, and he knows same sex can't reproduce. So that's why I feel like he looks at it like, you know what I'm saying? And it ain't no different from murdering, killing, stealing. God is about reproduction and you know same sexes cannot reproduce. But love is love. God is love. Gay mean love. How could you hate somebody gay and mean love? I'm with you, but I always find that the most homophobic or most intolerant people are the dudes who...

1:51:18In the closet. Or no, the dudes who do a lot of time in prison. Because in prison, sexual violence is a very real threat consistently for men. I've never been to prison at all. Me neither, but I hear all about it. I don't want to go. I'm not doing nothing to go. I just don't understand. I think 1998 was a wake-up call for me. I just, I don't know. It's horrible. One thing is a lot of, all right, so they're saying since Dirk been in jail, a lot of unfortunate things have happened to, like, you know, all his artists, like OTF. Zoo passed away. You know, Doody Low recently got shot in Atlanta. Can we look at this as you ball hard, but you fall even harder?

1:52:00Mm.

1:52:03That's the type of situation this is. and I think people should just allow and wait for God to have to leave. Everybody got their hands on it. Everybody talking about what's going to happen, what's this, what's that. Just sit and wait, especially if you ain't got nothing to do with it. Just sit and wait. Everybody got their opinion on it. And we on the outside looking in with all the shit that's because at first they didn't have no evidence. Now they got all these. And these fans, like, you can't win with a troll. You cannot win with no troll. But are you actively keeping up with, like, the case?

1:52:43With what? With Dirk's case and everything that's going on with his situation? I mean, when they mention him and when Mewops Goya mention him and Dux Trap, like, I see this man say, well, are you investigating Lil Dirk? Are you investigating Lil Durk and his group? Like, he's asking, and then I think the federal government, like, possibly. Like, they answered some shit like that. I don't know, but I just, like, from the first day when we got there, they tried to get me put out the courtroom. You know, the first day of trial, they tried to get me. His mom tried to get my baby daddy put out because we was on the elevator.

1:53:30and they was recording me walking in the courtroom. And somehow she must have got, Mewa's mama got kind of in the video a little bit. She went and told them that we was taking videos of her. So it's cool for his mama to go snicks to the feds and lie, but I'm the snicks. That's what I'm saying. They pick and choose who they want to call this and call that When in reality, ain't nobody judging me but God. I don't give a fuck what nobody say. But yeah, and then we were staring at them too much. Teasy, who's that? And then you know how the law students come in and take up the front row? Yeah. He thinking that it's our family, like it's family.

1:54:20So he complaining to the judge like, she keeps staring at me. were you making eye contact with the guys yes i was this move on

1:54:36none of them could really look me in my face but teasing he was so cocky like but i'm still here though i'm still so he was still confident and like stood on it no he was cocky about what he did to my son that's what i'm saying because if it wasn't for him if the shit wouldn't never happened but everybody else in from their facial expressions they seem remorseful are they not remorseful they just seen caught yeah busted busted as hell but you wouldn't call it remorse just more so sorry that they're in this situation sorry they got caught it took them a year again over a year to catch them what was they doing that whole year and then bragging making songs see things Zill made a song, yeah, mama crying, I don't give a, like they was rubbing that shit in our face.

1:55:28And then they had the Duck shoes or somebody having the Bunciagas with the. Now Gucci, they was throwing it in our face. And I'm thinking like, where was they mamas at? Why they kids was doing this? Because when Duck dissed LA in the song, he never did it again. Because I told him, that's my friend's son. I don't give a what your friends, you're not going to do it. He can't control what his friends do. But I told my son.

1:55:57What else?

1:56:03I just feel like if it would have stayed in the music, everybody would still be alive and rich as hell. That's how I feel. How do you feel when people say that a big part of the drill scene sparked with Ide and your son? their beef in particular. Because that was really the first diss. But what's the difference with they diss? What's the difference between when they was doing it, what was the difference between Eday and Doug dissing each other? They was alive. You diss him, he could diss you back. You diss him, he could diss you back. They were alive. But them dissing each other started other people getting beat up which led to fights and then led to gun violence whatever I don't know where the guns came from I mean from all the people I've interviewed it just sound like it all started from the songs and then there'd be fights and then after they get beat up then they go to gun violence a lot of them babies used to be in my house McAdoo used to be at parties in my house Crack used to be at parties in my house when I used to throw parties for my kids like these babies used to be at my house and everything was all good so I'm wondering where did it go bad because as long as they was at my house shit wasn't happening so I kind of felt I kept them baby safe and what happened to him when I left I don't know I ain't smoke the cigarette that's good we better talk how long See, I see how I'm working in progress.

1:57:48I want to fight like seven, eight of these. I'm proud of you. But I'm trying to stop. I'm a work in progress. I just can't quit cold turkey. But I promise. Hopefully by my birthday, these bitches gonna be a memory. And look, I brought my own Nilly Pellies. You won't have me smoking no camels. That's right.

1:58:11One thing that you was really vocal about, you was vocal about uh young boy performance being canceled in chicago you because i was looking for it to go ahead you felt slighted get a chance to meet him i was gonna meet his mama but i still wound up meeting shawanda anyway but you know we talk on the phone all the time that's my that's my girl that's my girl she got a potty mouth like me you caught a little backlash though because one of the things you said and maybe you just was in the heat in the moment after it got canceled but you said you felt like the moment was stolen for you because you wanted to hear Youngboy perform the King Von and Lil Durk diss song in Chicago.

1:58:50Why not? They went everywhere doing it. Why not? What's the difference between Youngboy doing it and A-D? I mean it's not. People were just more mad at you or the messenger saying it. But see, why would they be mad at me and these are the same people. What I supposed to hate them? But I'm supposed to be like, f*** young boy. Because he ain't from Chicago. I like the music. My son f*** with young boy. I like my daughters right now. F*** with young boy. I don't think it's that. I think it's the fact that you wanted him to perform the diss song. I wanted him to perform, period. I wanted him to bring Wooski out.

1:59:34I wanted him. I wanted to see the show. Yeah. Whatever he did. I was hoping he called me out. God damn it. That's what I was looking forward to. You know what I'm saying? Our kids made a statement in this bitch. Come on now. When they going to get some. Oh, they got put on a Megatron billboard. I guess that's supposed to be good enough. Do you still keep up with Wooski? I haven't talked to Wooski. His girlfriend be on straight gatekeeping. Shout out to Remy, man. Yeah, shout out. But I feel like she keep him safe. But look. Besides, I ain't gonna see the video of him hitting somebody in the head.

2:00:15At the gas station all the day. And I'm like, what the fuck get off his bitch? Like he said, y 'all think Wooski. Yeah, that nigga was fighting on him by Remy. If he was the old Wooski, he probably would've popped him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Facts, though. Oh, she - You feel like Remy's doing a good job of keeping Wooski out the way? Yes, I've always said she take care of him good. You know, one day she flipped off at me, but we got that situation. Over what, though? Me trying to get with Wooski. Like, trying to see what is he okay and stuff. Why she mad at you for just checking on Wooski, though? No, she's not mad at me.

2:00:56She probably just like, I don't know. You saw how little Mikey came in. I couldn't understand that recipe. What do you say? I missed that. His Cam Capone, I mean his corporate cartel interview. He was this man? Y 'all didn't see what little Mikey said? It be some of his stuff, but what exactly did he say? Just refresh my memory. Well, you know, he was gone 13 years, and I didn't know, but I know now when he was on the run, he was at my house, because the police let him out by mistake. Yeah. But until they caught him, he was at my house. Up north, when I lived up. Was it out? Where? Yeah, it was up north.

2:01:36Because we down there caught an assault on the train coming back from the hospital seeing Rasheed. He was sick. But he got on there and he just threw me. Even corporate cartel was like, damn, what Momma Duck do to you? Because he just went off. And I feel like he ain't been around me in 13 years. So how is he just going off this shit? But then when he said Manny, I say, oh, that's where he get that shit from. He be hanging out with Young a lot. Now you trying to lie. And then when I went in on him, because I could have said a lot of shit that I got receipts to. But he say, Shana, I'm sorry. He don't say that you got the internet.

2:02:26I say, they sent you off, Mikey. Because they had to know I was going to say something. They sent you off, baby. You been gone 13 years. You don't know what's been partaking and what's been going on. They sent you off to come at me. And these are the consequences behind you coming at me. With some shit you don't know about. House he dirty and her ass and many say he give her money. That really made me know that he lying. That man done gave me a dime. He got$21 ,000 from that label, the Berry Duck. We still waiting on him. I thought he dropped off$8 ,000 at the funeral home. Two days after my son was dead, when I ain't make his arrangement, and the funeral home he dropped it off at was on 71st and Halstead.

2:03:16That's the ops territory. Why would you do that? Make it make sense. So you think he dropped some money off for real? So when I did the arrangements, I asked him, we need the money, man. He told me I did something with it. I had to bust a move with it. I hung up. Then tried to last it. I said the kids couldn't come to the front of me. Why they was there? It was in the middle of Corona. It was only 25 people supposed to have been there. So Young was there. Yes. Duxie was there. Young was there. Everybody was there. But the room was crowded, so it was an overflow room. it turned from 50 people to 250 people in the middle of fucking corona we couldn't have it in chicago we had to have it all the way in johnny i was about to ask you that how do you uh because like a lot of funerals nobody want to take them they were scared somebody was gonna come in there and they shit up for his body yeah so that's what i'm saying so what's the process of like even booking a funeral and then like how do you out send the locations out from Frontal homes don't do gunshot victims no more.

2:04:26Really? Yeah, a lot of front of them in Chicago. They've avoided gunshot victims because gang-related, all type of stuff. You know, like Doosky Frontal got shot up. A lot of these front of them don't feel this light. And that's why we have to have Ducks Frontal and Taliyah. That's so crazy that they have to go to such an extreme measure. but even like you know that he's having a funeral on Joliet like how often like how quick are you sending the address out to people to tell them where it's gonna be out is that like a precautions being made just in case we out of lists and that's where it kicked off at 25 from my side and 25 from his dad's side so that's where it kicked off a lot of people we ain't on the list we ain't on the list this man got 25 ,500 I only got shit I got 7 kids so I got my aunties my sisters my brothers y 'all just come that's what I don't worry about the list just come that's what I was telling them and the people that came came I didn't see Cash but him in fact shorty came to the repass he was out there with me for the repass So that's why I'm like, oh, this internet shit be so fool to me.

2:05:54I'ma let them have it, though. They can have their stories and run with it. But, yeah, that's our reality. They playing with it, though. But this is really our lives, for real. What irritates you the most out of everything you see or people might get, got you fucked up about? When they say I'm cloud chasing off my son. as I'm clout chasing my son I birthed him I shared him with the world that's my son I am the clout how the fuck is I'm clout chasing my son he was the clout

2:06:36yeah me gonna say they do anything for clout though they did say that imagine if y 'all trademarked that word clout yeah I don't think we could it's been around forever just like i can't train my duck not all right duck is like but there's an animal in like but with like cloud it's a cloud goes back like hundreds of years where but i mean he did like he started he had cloud as his thing before all the phase guys remember they were the cloud house all the soundcloud rappers they started saying cloud like he was weirdly early on that yeah Yeah. Because he was big clap. Yeah. I mean, if it wasn't for you, Duck's legacy would probably get discussed a lot less.

2:07:27You know, you've really been flying the flag for people to kind of be forced to look at his life and say, look how fucked up this street shit is. And that's the point. That's why I be so vocal. I want them to see the downfall from this shit. because that rise only lasts for so long. That downfall is going to be so hard. Right. It's going to smack. You know it takes more time to climb to the top right. If you jumped off a clip, how many seconds do you think it's going to take for you to hit the bottom? I mean, you know, 10, 20 seconds would be like the highest. That's how it is. I mean, there's infinite people out here, especially even like the younger generation of drill rappers now who make killing and beefing look fun and sexy and, you know, like a great way to spend your life, just like the generation before them did.

2:08:20It's the image. Yeah. It's not a reality. It's some people's reality, though. Some people turn it into their reality. Let me ask you, do you believe Dirk was a gangster or you feel like music turned him into that over the years? You want my honest opinion? Yeah, I actually. When Dirk was doing the auto-tune, I liked it him more. Because he was really showing his craft. Like, I'm not finna sit up here and say that we ain't listen to that music. My baby listen to all that music. He used to love Lil Zay's song, Ballin' These Bishes. Like, he'll just, he'll be cleaning up to that shit with his head.

2:08:59I'll be like, what you listening to? He'll be like, Ballin' These Bishes. He'll put it on the speaker, and I'll be like, oh, who's saying that? He'll be like, oh, Lil Zay. So he never hated, he never hated music. If it was good, he was with it. But the question I asked, do you think Dirk was a gangster for real, or do you feel like the music path and the people you hung around kind of astrayed him to like? Well, his mom said in the book he robbed somebody when, took her gun and went and robbed somebody at nine years old. That's gangster shit. that's gangster shit so for me to say do I think he was a gangster in a sense he always had it in him but I think having those entities around him and bringing Vine in the mix kind of gaslighted or put more put more fuel to the fire yeah but I don't think that I think he was forced to be the way he ended out I think the influences around him I'm on the outside looking in and I just think the influences that he had around him wasn't good not saying that they didn't mean him well because they protected him I mean that's what they was for to protect him so they basically did their job but when it comes to the moral aspect of it it was wrong And these are the consequences you don't.

2:10:35For innocent to prove a guilty. So he's just going through his storm like that. And only God is the only person that can give him the outcome that's to be expected. Do you think if Dirk was to get released, he would go back to like the same drill sound? Or you think this going around here probably have a changed mentality? He probably needs to bag me. He's going to. He's probably going to turn to the Pope. I ain't going to hold you. He's going to don't do nothing. You feel like it's a wake-up call, right? If God gave him that, like if he should get that chance again. And who's to say he didn't get the chance already?

2:11:16How much shit he thought he got away with? God gave him plenty chances. Don't y 'all think? What do you think is going to be the outcome of his trial? You think he's going to get found guilty or not guilty? I don't know, but I know I seen that that's Stephon Mack shit with AJ and Marley. So, I mean, look, happens one thing. Maybe they probably, they strategically ain't going to charge him with that until they see he beat the other one. I don't know how the federal government did, but I'm just saying, like, because if they got this evidence on him, why they not charging him now? That is what's crazy is the feds let him spend a couple years preparing his defense for this one charge, and then at the last minute they just add all this other shit.

2:12:07That's the federal government. Yeah, and even with somebody like Dirk who got a lot of money, I mean. Puffy got a lot of money too. What's the name, bud? What's the man named Goldstein? What's his name? Who? Epstein. Epstein. He got a lot of money too. He said he still alive somewhere though, right? I don't think so. Nah, he's dead, but he had two autopsies. Money is the root of all evil. Yeah, but I'm just saying that like, them putting more charges on him like that, what's that, another million dollars in legal bills? I mean, they could really fuck him up. I think I would just give up. I mean, I give up, I ain't never telling nobody to give up.

2:12:45Ooh, I didn't mean to say that. But when the chips is stacked against you like that, I just feel like, I don't know. I know I be telling Brick or Duck ass, boy, your ass is in the shit. Now, this is what you going to do. That's what I would have been doing. I don't give a fuck. You sticking to a code that apparently ain't the code because these people are going to testify against him, right? According to these same motherfuckers he fed, These same motherfuckers he protected. These same motherfuckers he gave opportunities to. I finna tell on him that, right? Possible. Why risk that? He got how many babies?

2:13:34Ten? Loving mama. Beautiful wife. Like, I don't know. I just, I can't do nothing but just move to the side and just allow God to work. It's not my call. One last question I do have about the Dirk situation. He shot the A-Ha music video, and then during that same day, he did the million-dollar-worth-of-game interview. And the court documents they're trying to— I cried when I seen it. Like, I was watching Wally. Wally. Wally. Wally. Yeah, he just poured his heart out to them. Telling them to change their lives. Like, forgiveness. You don't know the power of forgiveness. this. Well, let me finish what I was going to say.

2:14:20So in that same day that they shot the music video and he had the Wallow and Gilly interview, the million dollars worth of game, they had a million dollars on the table or whatever. They trying to say that he supposedly paid off a hit to some of the guys that day with some of the money. That's the AJ guy. So if AJ pleaded guilty for murder for hire and got 30 years, when you plead guilty, that means you got to tell everything that happened, right? You got to tell who pays you, right? That's a part of the deal, right? So we ain't going to know. They ain't having no trial. Yeah. But who to say they won't pop up and do shit?

2:15:04No, that's right. There's a whole bunch of co-conspirators that ain't been named yet. Everybody is just. And now I don't know too much about this case. you know because it's not my child involved in it so i don't really know too much i'm only going off what the paperwork saying and i didn't know nothing about the paperwork to me and trap lord till he broke it down like i was so consumed with my grandbaby i wasn't even on the internet i wasn't even caring about what was on the internet is the is your fight only for duck and your children or even after duck people the people who did whatever they did the duck get sentenced Are you going to continue this fight?

2:15:44I have an organization called Mothers of Peace. I abbreviated MOP. And I've been extending the Isle of Franks to all the mothers that lost their kids, especially to this senseless shit like this. You would think I would have a million mothers. It's 10 of us. Who's more outspoken of the other mothers? Besides me? Yeah, besides you Because we don't really get to I would say Tuca Mama, I would say Dominique But we don't really get to see or hear from her Besides like one interview a couple years ago Yeah

2:16:38Nah, you right Everybody got their own reasons why they not outspoken. I have my reasons why I am. You think it's safety reasons though? Because a lot of it could be they feel for their safety. They got to have other kids. You don't think I worry about my safety? I think you do, but I think you're more so like, fuck my safety. This is bigger than just me. God ain't going to allow it to come out of my mouth if it ain't meant to be said. I don't know if I'm here on a mission or something because I've been so hands-on and I got so much involved because my kids are two other voices in this drill shit.

2:17:15And I don't know why other moms don't speak out. But, hey, guess who else I been talking to? That's my girl.

2:17:27Mo Threesma? Nicole. Shout out, Nicole. That's my girl. That's not who you talking about? No, that's not who I'm talking about. Shout out Lil Snoop, Mama Nisha. Shout out Kwayla, that's Lil Pop, Mom. So who was you talking about just now? I was talking about Mimo's mom. Oh, word. Yeah, we finally, well we ain't never had no problems, you know, with the situation with Ryan and her son and stuff. But, yeah, and if a lot of mothers just look at the big picture, a lot of us would talk. Like, what can we do? Our babies is gone. So we either going to be better or get better. I got grandkids, man. I can't.

2:18:17Like, I don't want them to. Like, my grandson, Raheem, he told my nephew, Amir, and this was so sad because he only finna be six and he was talking to him because in my door of the house it's a picture of me and Duck over her TV she got like a 70 inch TV in her front but me and Duck it's a big old picture of me and Duck over her TV and my nephew say that's my cousin Duck so Raheem say Yup, and you know what happened to him? So he was like, he got shot. And Raheem was like, and do you know about who? He was like, nah, about who? He was like, King Von Neal, he's six. Yeah. My grown baby's six, and he was only eight months when Duck died.

2:19:20Like he was the baby when Duck died. He was born in July. Matter of fact, he was three weeks. He was born July 29th. No, he wasn't even that old. 2020. He was born July 29th, 2020, and Duck got killed August 4th, 2020. I want to share something, and this was off camera, but I happened to witness it, and I thought it was like, damn, hearing you have that conversation kind of stood out to me. So when we was in Florida, maybe two weeks ago, you was talking to somebody in your family, but it was a kid. And the kid that you was talking to was mad at the other kid in your family because they were listening to King Von's music.

2:20:03And that kid was saying, we don't fuck with Von. And you corrected them. And you told them, don't let him decide who he like and don't be so harsh on him. He don't know anything about Von. But you were still standing up and saying that was wrong for them to be having that dispute. I want to let my kid listen to Kendrick. Lamar? Yeah, that's the whole thing. I love Kendrick Lamar. But do the family, even the young family members feel like they have to choose a side? My grandbaby got into a fight at school with some boys because they know who her uncle is and they said they were smoking on duck and she ran off and chased these four boys as if she can beat them.

2:20:48I say they could have been tricking you, babe. You see how you look? You don't know what people think. They could have got you off somewhere and did something to you. See, I try to flip the switch on the more important shit because you can't control what people say out they mouth. Okay, but that situation could have been ugly because how you would have caught up with them? They could have did something to you. See, that's the picture I want her to look at. Not that somebody dissing her uncle that they didn't know. that they only know off the internet, that it's famous enough to them that they will speak on somebody in that manner.

2:21:28Yeah. So I have to tell her, don't be stupid. Don't be chasing nobody because you're going to see a lot of people that find out that you some kin to him and will do that. So now it's trickling to my grandbabies. And that's why I'm so vocal. Because at the point I'm finna be like, y 'all better get y 'all f***ing kids. Because now they f***ing with my grandbabies. And if they thought I went apeshit about my kids, can you imagine how I'd be about my grandkids? So. I'm gonna be gone out of Illinois real, real soon, though. So I got plans on moving. Probably come here. You got a job for me, Adam. you ain't got a female host on do y 'all got a female no jumper not really did you have one we had a few like a Jessica or something you ain't got a mama duck we ain't got a mama duck think about that I think I'll be a good addition to the no jumper podcast that's not the worst idea right I think it'll be good how long you in LA for to the first so the first that's a little bit huh yeah we're going to the BET Awards so I got my blonde hair so you're going to the actual awards yeah I'm going I've gotten an amazing I was told just get in the building mama duck we got you so I got in the building I'm going to see if I can get some red copper shots or something but I'm glad I was invited it.

2:23:13That's true. Maybe we'll get there one day. We ain't got the clock yet. Really? Nah. But anybody can go, right? Just bad tickets. I'll try and get them red carpet shit. I mean, we send people there to the red carpet and I do media stuff in the past. They asked me to vote, but I never responded to those emails. So maybe that's part of the problem. Excuse me. Vote for what? Like the winners. oh well Drewski I picked a good year to come cuz you ski gonna be host I say I'm gonna pull a sexy read so he can notice me no way he originated that he gave her that name. What? I knew they hung out, but I didn't think he gave her that name.

2:24:05Because she was like, you saw Cal, the status update. I seen the status update. It's sexy something. And he was like, she had the red hair. He was like, red, sexy red. And she ran with ever since Doug. She ran with. I like sexy red. I fuck her, because she always gave homies to my baby. Shout out sexy. I think she dating cheeky now. i wouldn't care that's what i'm saying a lot of these rappers then dated some of duck x girls uh what's her night in the cup water days i'm drunk as hell at these cup water uh that used to be duck x back in the day who out corey y 'all know corey she's the one shank them up and oh yeah yeah let me see yeah duck was a ladies man he's asking to shut all that down he was finna marry her so we knew that they was getting married when he turned 30 which would have been in 24 I think cause he was 26 when he died in 20 so we were planning to be in Jamaica for our island with he proposed to her and everything gave her the ring and stuff she's 6 years in and still holding it down baby shout out Jazz that's dope so what would you say are your goals going forward what do you want to accomplish over the next few years I want my organization to be real vocal I want it to just I have a lot of it I'm writing a book I'm almost finished I was really trying to just finish it after these sentences since that was going to be like the last chapter.

2:26:01Once I get the sentencing dates, get over the sentencing dates. And then I think that's when I can really, I can honestly say these sentencing dates have been kind of stagnating me on what I really, really want to do because it's like a hinder. And I don't know why these people haven't sentenced them yet. Like, they've been convicted. Yeah. So it's not like they can make deals or nothing because they've been convicted already. And every last one of them was convicted for the murder of Carlton Weakley, which is mandatory life. So what is it to negotiate? I don't know. But maybe it's a good thing because I could say I'm ready.

2:26:54but I'm probably really really not I'm anticipating it though for real thank you for coming through and doing this and I appreciate you being willing to patch it up and everything yeah I'm glad I could help facilitate the squash shop I'm glad y 'all back on good terms I don't hold no grudges I mean that's the first thing that 6ix9ine said in that interview y 'all did Remo making all the plays I tend to do a little what I can. I guess. But it was a pleasure. Oh yeah. I got nothing but respect for you and I appreciate what you bring to the game. And don't go behind my back and say no funny shit like you did the last time.

2:27:41You say you sorry this time. We cool now because I'm trying to be on that side. Okay. Okay. Just don't flirt with me and I won't have to tell the world about it. if you was a little bit darker maybe tan you probably would have i can get a tan too late i haven't really been i ain't been in the pool i ain't been getting too much sun recently but okay they got some good peptides too if you want to make your skin darker no no let everybody know where they can find your youtube channel and stuff too I gotta get the new one. Mama Duck the Cloud Chaser Slayer. Spell it out because people spell it M-A-M-A.

2:28:18No, it's M-O-M-M-A. There you go. Mama. Mama. Not Mo-Ma. So it's Mama underscore Duck. Mama Duck. All right, just Mama Duck. The Cloud Chaser Slayer. Come on. Like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I slay all the clouds. And we probably gonna have your IG tagged anyway, but just in case they ain't got it. My chicken duck, OG. My TikTok is Miss Highly Favored, Forever Faithful is my TikTok.

2:28:56My Facebook is Lashina Weekly. And one of my OnlyFans go to my bio. Oh, you still got the OnlyFans on? Hell yeah, I still got my OnlyFans. And it be busting and I shout out to all my subscribers. but y 'all know mama doesn't love y 'all. They're my only fans. I be cooking on there. Oh, word. Yeah. Giving our recipes and shit. You know, I make it useful. I feel it. I feel it. I got the tap in. Nah, I just appreciate you pulling up and doing this with us and much respect for everything you've been through and the message that you're trying to impart on your city and the whole game. I hope they start listening.

2:29:42I hope I resonated to somebody because my intentions are really good. I am one of those no-nonsense type of mamas. No bullshit. I get lenient sometimes, but it's just some shit that needs to be approached and talked about, and people scared. I think I'm going to get some merchandise that say, let's address the elephant in the room. There you go. My mama duck merchandise. Don't nobody steal my shit. That's a good idea. Steal them, huh? That's the kind of thing everybody says, but you could make it yours. Yeah, let's address the elephant in the room because that's the problem. Everybody want to pick and choose who's shady, who's snitch, and who this and who that.

2:30:29That's kind of like throwing the brick at me head. No. That's why I'm the clock just asleep. Mama Duck in the building Let's go Shout out to Remo Mama Duck Thank you so much for your time Okay Appreciate you Thank you No Jumper Coolest podcast in the world Check us out on YouTube TikTok Instagram Rest in peace Brick and Duck And everybody else Rest in peace to all them babies That we lost That's a fact The show Like, comment, subscribe We appreciate y 'all who watched this