Moose Got Bullied by Wack, Do Boy Tormented by 607 Unc, Vlad vs Aries Spears

39:39You know what's weird? He threw water on Unk when he was sleeping. Unk didn't even wake up? He woke up for a split second, then he just knocked right back out. And Unk slept right here. All them peanuts. It was all the peanuts. All the peanuts made him sleepy, I guess. There was a couple of moments where I was just like, man, just hit this. I was just like, no, man, don't, don't. He left a bunch of peanut dust on the carpet. It was crazy. The people at home probably have no idea. Who vacuums that up, man? They need a bonus. For real. It was hella penis in that moment. Yo, it was like, I can't even imagine that the vacuum would have been able to get it out.

40:13What kind of vacuum you guys got up in here, man? That's a real strength, yeah. Yeah. No, definitely. Okay. Okay, and so I guess we also have to talk about how exactly the WAC incident went down. So at first I would like to speak on how our conversation went down in the lead up to it. I was definitely the mastermind of this idea in the sense that, you know, WAC had made it clear that he was down to do a podcast with Doughboy. I told Moose, I'm like, don't worry, just pull up. It'll be good. He's not going to do anything. I'll make sure he doesn't do anything. It'll be good. Moose pulls up, hits Wack with like a little bit more of an intense vibe than maybe like any of us really expected in terms of just staring at him and sort of like, you know, I forget exactly what you said, but you're like, I'm here, I'm here.

41:10Like I think Wack's guiding principle is really like he wants everybody to be scared of him and he wants everybody to show him respect. Yeah. And you really were not giving that in that moment. He did like go silent as soon as I came in. So I didn't really like that. That kind of caught me off guard. I thought it was like, we're going to kind of start yelling at each other, you know, maybe start arguing over the points that I had, or he was going to yell at me for saying whatever I said, but he just kind of froze and that caught me off guard. So I'm like, I guess I'm just going to wait for, you know, whatever he has to say.

41:41And, but obviously he took that wrong. You know what I mean? Man, I listen, I'm going to tell both y 'all, y 'all was chipping for that whole shit. And I feel like, I feel like you're not going to gaslight me today. No, no, no, no. I'm not trying to gaslight you. I'm telling you, I'm telling you what it, what it really is. I feel like, yes, I knew, you know what I'm saying? That y 'all was planning on. I thought maybe you knew something I didn't know, but I never felt right about it. Like Moose, I'm just being a honey. You was talking crazy. I don't think so. But you've been representing me way different than it really was.

42:12Every conversation that I had that, that had anything to do with, uh, you know, turning something down or physical was people on podcasts asking me hypothetically saying hey moose i can tell you're just trying to pod even with you you baited me into saying some shit and now you're trying to turn it on me now what do you mean you said you know that wax said he was going to slap the shit out you what did you think i should say to that doughboy i'm just telling you what i know but tell me what i should have said because you said i was tripping by my answer tell me what i should have said i'm gonna tell you you can say whatever you want to say but i was trying to identify like are you sure you know what you're doing this man said he ain't playing he said he gonna slap the shit out of you now at that point that's when you could have disengaged it and just been like no is this is potting but what you did was you said nah dope boy i'm real i ain't turning nothing down yes because and what i meant was i'm not gonna get bullied out of my opinion somebody can't just threaten me with violence and i'm just gonna say well i guess i don't have that opinion anymore that's not what you said but it is it is just because i said hey this is real this is my real opinion dope boy that's what i meant i i meant that this is how i truly feel i'm not just trying to rage bait whack everything i said 95 of the shit that i ever spoke on whack was hey i don't want no beef or whack i have these criticisms of how he operates and then people would say hey i know how whack is you know his demeanor you know how he tries to bully people what if he punches you what if he slaps you what am i supposed to do tell them i'm gonna ball up you know it's like i said no i guess we're gonna fight that's just what it is if that's what the energy brings but he threw a water bottle at me he yelled at me that wasn't enough for me to crash out and ruin my opportunity and i don't think that's that crazy but i'm not going to get gaslit into like saying i'm going to pull up and beat up whack that was never the energy and nobody could ever convince me of that however you want to think that it came off and you said it is fine but i'm just telling you what my perception of it was i was just trying to get clarity of how you felt about it and then the energy that you gave was nah dog boy this is real so it's almost like you were separated like no this isn't an act no this ain't no problem yes i'm not turning nothing down that's what you said yes because i'm not gonna just turn down because whack is yelling at me and trying to bully me but he was in your face you turned down and you did everything that you said that you weren't no because he didn't punch me he didn't slap me threw a water bottle and yelled at me and i'm just and i'm gonna say hey i'm gonna diffuse the situation i'm not gonna escalate the situation i'm trying to base this off logic and reason in that moment did what whack did whack was yelling so he yelled back it's like you know whack didn't punch him if he punched if he punched moose in the face and moose curled up in a ball and whatever then like okay then people would have a point but like you did the same thing that whack did except you weren't the aggressor and there's nothing that i said i never said i when i see whack i'm gonna do this that you guys keep trying to paint me as if i was saying like i'm gonna get whack when i see him know that whack is unreasonable in this situation no matter how you try to spin it and when he had the conversation with adam it was the same thing He had to find reasons.

45:07He had to say that I'm Mexican. He had to say he had beef with. He had to say his homies kill Mexicans. He had to go on this racist tirade to justify him tripping on me because at the end of the day, he didn't have a good reason to. What is he saying that's wrong? I would love to know. You antagonize that man. You talk crazy about him. You didn't know him. Once he vocalized, he don't know you and he don't mess with you. Then at that point, you should have just left it alone. But you did what you did and you kept it going. And then niggas make it seem like he's the bad guy. rack was not wrong in the situation he was 1000 wrong in that situation okay he wasn't until i until i say when i see whack i'm gonna slap the shit out of him i never said that i said i was criticizing whack and even when i said that we both work with the police thing people trying to get on me for that it was because he did the thing with the badge and then he said oh well my brother is a cop this is just a buddy badge that's what i was saying is that if somebody's gonna threaten my life and say i'm gonna put 1500 on your head over an opinion then i'm gonna say hey i guess I'm going to call the police then.

46:05You know what I'm saying? That is past podcasting. That's past even fighting. That's saying you're going to get one of your homies to kill me over an opinion. And that's not reasonable. There's no way you could spin that to be reasonable. And my whole thing is like, if we're talking about right and wrong, it is wrong. And it is also disrespectful to me to jump out of your seat and try to fight a fellow podcaster. Now, the thing that might be able to happen that would be able to justify jumping out your seat to fight a podcaster is maybe if you guys had beef that was really really uh serious or if blood had been shed or if like really direct threats had been made or maybe if moose man presented himself like he was like some scary gang member or some shit like that which from my perspective absolutely none of those criteria is met so from my perspective i don't understand how anybody could ever sit there and say that Wack was in the right when Moose Man came peacefully, clearly was intending to have a podcast, and then Wack jumped out of his seat screaming and seemingly was going to fight him if I wasn't standing between him or if it didn't get broken up.

47:15I don't understand the mental gymnastics that you have to do to be able to present Wack as if he's in the right in this situation. And Wack asked him. He said, do you got a problem? I said, no, Wack. I'm here to podcast. What does that mean? As if it wasn't already literal. So honest question. Honest question. If there was somebody that you genuinely did not like, whoever that person is in your head, put that person in your head. You don't even have to tell me who it is. Yeah. If you did not like this person and if Wack came to you and said, hey, I want to bring this person that you don't like.

47:41And you told him like on some, I don't know camera shit. And you told him, nah, I don't fuck with dude. I'm not fucking with him. And like, I really got a problem with this guy. Yeah. And then he brings him up here anyway. You know what I would have done? I would have calmly asked him to leave. Okay. So you explain to me why Wack's route that he took is in any way justifiable in comparison to calmly asking him to leave, which if Wack had said, listen Moose, I don't fuck with you. Adam, I respect for your building, but I'd like to ask you to leave. That would have been like, hey, is y 'all show?

48:13It would have walked out, right? No, I just think that you can't ever really judge the reaction on how somebody perceives it as disrespect. For sure you can. That is the biggest cop-out ever. No, no, no, no, because if you slap somebody and then they shoot no no no i'm just giving a different example okay if you slap somebody and then they shoot your ass somebody could be like that's an extreme overreaction against slap well maybe you shouldn't slap that but you're gonna go to prison for murder i'm just giving an example of you can't tell somebody how to react i know but in society we absolutely do because there's laws that we say hey you can't react this way it has to match the level of force that did not match the level of force when i'm saying i'm trying to do a podcast with you and Now you're saying I'm going to put$1 ,500 on your head to get you killed.

48:52But I think if somebody tells you. You're too reasonable to have this stance. I'm very reasonable. But what I'm saying is if a man tells you. The relationship is clouding your judgment right now. If a man tell you he don't fuck with you and he don't want to rock with you and then you still pull up. You pull the ball. He don't, like I said in the other podcast, y 'all don't know each other. He don't know if you plan. He don't know if you just. Adam knows me. You talk about Adam. I'm talking about Wack. Adam's not going to bring somebody in that's going to kill Wack on the podcast. I wouldn't have done that with Comparator, which you've been around for a while.

49:17But like Comparator and him have that actual neighborhood beef where like, you know, and Comparator came on here and said a term that this is wax. I know. I know that is something that I wouldn't have done, because as much as I don't think Comparator is some killer or whatever, it's like, that's a serious, serious beef. That's real shit. This was not that this was podcast because he kept saying non-affiliate doesn't mean anything. He can harm me. Adam knows me. Adam knows that I'm not on that. Adam, he has that low of an opinion of Adam that he thinks that Adam would bring a Mexican in here to try to crash out on him, try to harm him, try to kill him?

49:51Well, no. I just, the way that I look at it was that he made his stance very vocal. Niggas ran that red light anyway. So that justifies anything that he does? I'm not saying it justifies. I'm just saying that I don't think he was, now how his reaction and whatever his reaction is, you can have whatever judgment you want to have on that, okay, that is what, that's a different conversation. But do I feel like he was wrong in this situation absolutely not so is so is whack wrong for popping up on like spody face with his ops because if if whack never did nothing like this i would understand but i think the thing that enraged him most is that he was the play now and he wasn't the play maker i think that's what really enraged and that i'm mexican i think those were the two main points was he wasn't in on it but he knew that i wasn't a threat and then he was he was going to make an example out of me by turning up going crazy i just don't and he got a shit anybody could have the attitude or opinion that what Wack did wasn't wrong.

50:45And Wack wants a pat on the back because he didn't punch him in the face, which, okay, I do appreciate that. Yeah, thank you, Wack. However, jumping out of your seat and screaming and knocking over the cameras and all this, it's just like, how in what world could that ever be considered a reasonable response to what actually happened, which is a non-affiliate who is in no way a threat, who clearly does not have any intention of harming you who clearly if you were to start fighting him obviously i i think you know if we were betting men that we would probably put money on whack to win right definitely caught more phase than me i don't want to offend you or anything but yeah that seems clear to me not a threat in any way i just i don't understand how any thinking sentient being could possibly have the opinion that whack doing that is okay in fact i feel like if we were to poll a thousand people who don't know WAC 100 and ask them what they think about that situation, that you would probably struggle to find one person who would say that the person who jumped out of their seat and was threatening to beat up the other guy is not in the wrong.

51:47Well, I just think that to quantify... I feel like you're doing mental gymnastics because you want to stay on WAC's good side. I don't. I have so much more of a reason to stay on WAC's good side, and I still have to come on here and say what's right and wrong. He can't be honest about people that he likes. It's not even about it. Why every time I give my opinion on people, people think I'm like dick riding the pussy. Because it's not making logical sense. No, I'm not compromised. I just know that he said what he said, and then the situation went how it went, and I just don't feel like he was wrong.

52:15But even what you just said right there doesn't really address the fact that trying to fight somebody in a workplace who's in no way a threat to you is just really, really inappropriate. And face-to-face, he said, do you have a problem? I said, no, Wack, I'm here to criticize your podcasting. I think the easier way to find a landing point would be just to find wherever you would feel disrespected and then take that logic of it. And if you felt disrespected, what would you do? Obviously, you're probably not going to react. I can give you a really, really good example. So there's this guy who's like a prolific Twitter troll who posts like a lot of fake news and a lot of stuff.

52:47His name is Dom Lucre. A lot of people are like way too on Twitter know who this guy is. and at one point a couple years ago he took a screenshot of my wife's tiktok where she was getting ready for halloween with me and she was breastfeeding her kid and it's a whole tiktok with all these little clips or whatever and there's like a one second clip of her and i and we're wearing like sesame street makeup and she's breastfeeding our kid okay and when this came out zero percent of the people who saw it thought that it was offensive in any way it was just like some regular ass parent shit and so this dude screenshotted that one part with the breastfeeding and posted on twitter and said that my wife was selling this porn in which she was child she was breastfeeding her daughter on her only fans now to anybody who's even thought about this for more than a few seconds only fans obviously doesn't allow you to sell any content or post any content involving children in any way and this content was removed from youtube for disinformation because it was not true now i was doing a podcast with a couple of guys and they brought this dude with them and they allegedly didn't know that i had this issue with this guy because i never even talked about it publicly well i guess i did talk about it on here but not not in like extreme depth or rant or nothing a lot of people like probably didn't know about it whatever so i walk in here and he's sitting there and actually posted the clip on Twitter a couple weeks ago.

54:17But I say to him, I go, what's your name? Shook his hand. He said his name. Immediately, it kind of clicks in my head. And I'm like, wait, that's you? And he's like, yeah. And I said, OK, I would like to ask you to leave. And that's a much more heinous. Yeah, that guy did something that's so much worse than what Moose Man did. And yet somehow and granted, I am the owner of the building. So it kind of like makes sense. And, you know, I've been sued in recent memory for violence taking place at my office. But I was able to summon what I thought was a very, very mature reaction towards somebody who I would like to hurt in a physical manner.

54:59And if Wack said that, I would say, hey, man, you got it. I'm not going to push the issue. I see that Wack is not playing the content game. And you did offer to leave. Yeah, because he said, get your BS out of here. So I said, you know, if you want me to leave, I'll leave, man. But I'm not going to fight you in the office. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to fight you. I know jumper right now when you got, you know, dudes pulling up saying, yo, we violate people to me as soon as I walk out of the podcast. So it's like, obviously, I was going to be the next Jay Reed Alley victim. You know what I'm saying?

55:26And I'm not going to expose myself to that if I don't have to. I'm going to defuse the situation so I could, you know, keep running. The person who's in the wrong is always going to be the person who, you know, tries to be violent in the workplace in the face of things that are not worthy of violence now if moose man had said when i see whack i might just kill him because that's how he's trying to make it and then whack did what he did okay boom i get that that makes sense never did i ever say nothing then seems like an imminent threat and you're allowed to like do whatever you want and uh it just wasn't even close to that and the weird thing about it is that i feel like whack has so many yes men in his life that are willing to tell him that he didn't do anything wrong, that to him, I'm the only person who's willing to say that what he did was wrong.

56:11And to me, that is just unthinkable. There is absolutely no world in which what he did could be considered acceptable. How about this? Happy medium, split the baby. Do you at least admit that you played a part in his reaction? At least a small part in the way he reacted. I think I created a scenario that was supposed to kind of trigger him. but in no way do i think that his reaction was an appropriately sized reaction and that's fair there was there was there was a little bit that could have been differently on their side a little bit different and i was like so charitable to whack after when we sat down i'm like hey man i see what you're saying i could have called you right away you know i'm saying i could have hit you direct line i was very charitable i wasn't like no you're so wrong but it's like at the end of the day bro you're talking about putting 1500 on my head over a fucking podcast and even like Like I never said, yo, when I see whack, I'm a, I'm a get them.

57:01I'm a get them. It's like, yo, you know, that whack is pretty unreasonable at times. This was podcasts I'm sitting on. If he gets at you that way, when you're just trying to voice your opinion, what's going to happen? I guess we're going to fight. Yeah, we're going to fight. But that's another thing that he was saying when he was here though. Like if you don't know somebody, you don't know how far they're going to take. Bro, we talk on people we don't know every single day. No, no, you didn't hear that. We go through the topics. No, you didn't hear what I just said. If you don't know somebody, you don't know how far they're willing to take it.

57:22You don't know how unrational they are. That's what I get that. Yeah. Yeah. If you want, if you kill people over podcast opinions that, yeah, you scare me. I promise you that he got it. Dumb shit every day. I get that. But are those reasonable, normal people, Doughboy? No, but that's what that's the point of what it was saying. If you don't know a person, you don't know what I know. But you don't know Spody. And he was talking about catching a fade with them. But I disrespect him. Yes. Spody pulled up to the news that the next day and was saying, where's Doughboy without his glasses on? Right.

57:48OK. And I talked to Spody. I mean, Spody have talked. Exactly. Exactly, and he was reasonable. Right. The whack is not reasonable. That's my whole thing, is this is not reasonable. Okay. All right. Agree to disagree? Yeah. But you can't really still agree with what you were originally saying, right? No, I see what you're saying. That's the thing in the conversation. I can hear what you're saying and be like, you know what? I see what you're saying. I can see how a logical person in the moment. Okay, cool. I can also see that had this situation not been created, he probably wouldn't have reacted like that.

58:16So I can see both sides of it. And if Wack didn't run plays. I don't argue, just argue. I hear what you're saying. If Wack didn't run plays, I would have way more sympathy. If Wack was just like, you know, not popping up with people on podcasts the same exact way, I would understand. But when Adam brought that up, he just said he was going to knock Adam out, too. And that just shows the level of unreasonableness, I think, that we're dealing with. And, you know, Wack got it. I won't criticize him if he's willing to put$1 ,500 on my head over it. It's all good. Wack was, like, being so – and, like, ultimately keeping you away from Wack is, like, whatever because we're used to doing that.

58:45Yeah, everybody stays away from Wack. We have this policy for, like, the vast majority of the NoJumper hosts that we have to avoid them being anywhere near Wack. And, you know, so that's not really, like, anything new. But like when we were on the phone, like early in the morning on Saturday, we had just this insane conversation where he's saying like, Adam, if I wanted to hit Moose, you couldn't stop me. I think that's true. And I said, I'm like, but I did stop you or like, but you did stop. And he's like, well, you couldn't have stopped me if you wanted to. And I said, but, but you stopped. And it felt like I was the only reason that you stopped.

59:22It was like out of respect for me or whatever. The respect, not because he thought you're a tough opponent. It's because he has respect for Adam. And this is my whole thing, too, is that it's like, all right, so like Lil Jon and fucking Baby Cube and Rob are like Wack affiliates that anybody who's like really knows about Wack knows who they are. These are serious dudes. Yeah. They came up to me after the pod. They said, hey, man, you know, we really violate people. Then they seen Wack. Wack was chill with me at that point. Obviously, he doesn't fuck with me still, but at that point, he was chill with me.

59:48But the idea that like those guys, that it wouldn't be beneath them to fucking beat you up for something that you said on a podcast like as if whack couldn't handle that duty yeah i think as if there needed to be a bunch more guys here to help take part i mean it's just like it's just so silly and i feel like i'm being asked by people to like have a lot more sympathy for that viewpoint than i'm willing to actually have because again like i try to be as logical and reasonable as possible and to me ultimately the person in the wrong is the person who starts the fight not the person who talked shit that maybe led to the fight and listen people are free to fight wherever the fuck they want all over the world it's just at no jumper you're not allowed to fight anybody and if you do you're probably never going to be asked back and with the whole whack situation it's like i guess he didn't actually do it so it's like we can't really be like that mad about it but like obviously he came very close in that moment to like oh okay we're never going to do another podcast again because I can't trust you to be in my building right and and the more you explain it like I I do see your logic in it you know I'm saying like you know because you know there are people in the building that do have serious problems with each other and you didn't perceive this as one of those so in that sense I can you know cut your looks like, yeah, I can see that.

1:01:14You didn't think it was going to go there. You know what I'm saying? It shouldn't have. Yeah. But one thing I can say, if there is a silver lining, I'm glad that even through all of it, through the whole yelling, through the bottle getting thrown, through all of that, we were able to sit down, we were able to pot, they were able to chop it up afterwards. Yeah, that's why I said that. I don't know why he still doesn't like me because he seemed like we're chill. He shook my hand. That showed growth on everybody. And my level of trust that the situation was under control was strong enough that i left before the podcast was even over yeah we sat there for another 30 45 yeah i was so certain that it was going to be fine that i just left and like went home because i had to go i forget what i was doing thursday i think it was something with your i just kind of got lectured by whack for the rest of the pod which was fine you know i could tell that he was not willing he did not want to debate anymore he was not on that i could see the energy that he was bringing so it was just you know diffuse the situation let whack get his shit off I get it man that was dope about it that was something that like at the end of it niggas can sit down as men but he said he still don't want to be around me so much I don't get because I told him you know it's all good man I hear you it's weird how that kind of came together and now you got another op no no no we're not going to talk about him we're not going to talk about him just a random bum that's trying to get some clout off my name is it a Mexican gang member no no it's a roach I would say oh that one yeah yeah I don't even know why that happened but I guess oh well he is the one that messaged me and told me to not fuck with you and we were cool before that which was weird that's why we're having issues because i was had no issue with him before that message was yeah telling somebody not to hire somebody is crazy work yeah when we're supposed to be cool and all i've ever done is try to help that fool out you know i do it all the time yeah but it's all good you do that all the time i mean here and i got disowned by the no paperwork pod they said i can't come back because i said i got 9-1-1 on speed dial what Instagram account was that posted on because I would like to watch I think they uh they did they said it on their pod or they'd be doing like a I'm not sure they did it on like uh sometimes they do kind of the split screen YouTube collab kind of stream off their phones or it looks like maybe and they said uh I'm not welcome back which it's all good you know there's got to be a I mean these are like prison dudes so it's like I understand but when I said I work with the police because all these Mexican fools are tripping on me was me saying if you're willing to kill me over a podcast opinion yes i will call the police that was the extent in which i work with the police i have actually never called the police in my life believe it or not guys you know but at this point in my life at 31 i'm not willing to die over a podcast opinion so if you're willing to take it to that over me just having an opinion on a podcast yes i have to employ the police because i'm not sliding on people that are stealing my car like doughboys you know with spody it's like i'm not you know if somebody harms my mama i'm not gonna slide around the hood looking for him you know what i mean it's just like at this point that's like it's important to let everybody know that you will call the cops like from my perspective as well because it's like that kind of stops a lot of street dudes in their tracks when they realize like oh this guy is gonna like think about the push icy and gucci thing push icy would not have done that to gucci if he thought that gucci was going to talk to the cops the fact that he did i understand was very very upsetting right to push icy but like if gucci like you know gucci has something to lose by saying they would call the cops.

1:04:27I have nothing to lose because I'm not a proclaimed gang member. So I make it clear all the time. Like, yeah, if you pull up on me, then I'm going to do what I have to do. But then I'm also going to tell the cops every single thing that I know about the situation. And I have absolutely no shame about that. And I have absolutely nothing against the police at all. If anything, I think that they are criminally underfunded and there should be more cops on the street. Yeah. Oh, maybe you might be a little too left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know about that. I won't go that far, but shout out to the police, the good police officers out there, man, protecting the streets, man.

1:05:01If we were to comb through your internet history, would we find any Abolish the Police messages? No, no. I was never on Abolish the Police. More like maybe retraining them some stuff, maybe some psychiatric evaluations here and there, but I was never on Abolish the Police. That's not me. Interesting. But when you said 911 on speed dialing. That was like my last little, I had to get, I knew that this was the moment. It's like, this is the time, you know? I was like, at the end of the day, I'm a content creator. I'm at no jumper. I'm trying to be rookie of the year. That was the last time where it's like, if I say anything that's kind of funny style after this, he might actually sock me.

1:05:35So I got to get this bar off real quick. And that's kind of the highlight of the clip. And I'll say this on camera because I said this to you off camera. So I don't want you to think I'm one of them fake dudes. I respect you for showing up. Like that took some balls. Yeah, I showed up by myself. I was on bullshit. I was showing up with a bunch of Mexicans. He thinks I roll around. Everybody wouldn't have done that. I show up by myself, man, to talk to the guy. But it went south, so it's all good. Yeah, we did it. I mean, ultimately, nobody was harmed besides one of the camera stands. I caught a water bottle, a half-full water bottle.

1:06:05Did it hurt? Did the bottle hurt? It was to the arm. Adrenaline was kind of rushing, so I didn't really feel it. Sent you to the forearm? Yeah, it's all good. I'll take it for 1.4 million views. I'm just counting just the universe, God, and everything, that the other guys weren't there when that happened. because I think if the other two guys were there when that happened, I think that would have been a different situation. I think they would have been respectful of my building as well, especially given the fact that, like, obviously they just weren't needed in any way. There was no threat. Right.

1:06:33There was just no reason for Wack to lash out the way that he did. It was just very outrageous, if you ask me, but whatever. All right. And I'm not going to get into what I've seen the overall opinion of the people be, but. yeah i would say it's like 70 percent whack was tripping 30 percent moves got marked out which is fine i'll take it i'll take the percentages you gotta take the loving i don't really understand what like bfd's anti-moose uh standpoint is on this is that uh because they they got tied up in there's like some kind of anti no paperwork pod uh reactors you know from other gangs and stuff that were making videos like oh look at this guy that goes on no paperwork pod saying he works with that trap but all i did was ever you know shine light on no paperwork pod and shot the bfd interview to adam which he probably would have never done before so i mean am i tripping off that shout out to those guys best of luck to them but it's like man it's like i made them look good not the other way around for sure okay so this is the main uh topic that i feel like is worth our oxygen today which is the slow, I don't want to call it destruction, but the slow impending, I don't want to say downfall.

1:07:48Vlad TV has been going through some growing pains. I think everybody's familiar with the situation with Boosie at this point where Boosie basically asked him to adjust his pay from$25 ,000 to$35 ,000. Wack or Vlad's attitude is basically that he was making about$35 ,000 from the average interview that he would do with Boosie. His response was, I can't give you$35 ,000 because that's going to basically mean that I'm breaking even on interviewing Boosie. He tried to offer Boosie an additional or I think Boosie was trying to get an additional 5K so they would meet at 30. vlad basically said bro like if you're just gonna nickel and dime me and try to get every last dollar out of me to the point where i'm not really like earning a satisfactory um rate then i'm just gonna have to say no thanks especially when you consider that vlad was doing all of these in person so you'd have to actually fly all the way out to atlanta get hotels etc you know that's like many, many, many thousands of dollars of additional expenses and whatnot.

1:08:53So Vlad at first was being very, very polite about it. As time has gone by, you're starting to kind of see Boosie getting a little bit more offended by the tone that Vlad has been taking with it. Oh, like I don't need you kind of tone? Yeah, you know, Vlad has like just continued to talk about it at length. And, you know, it seems like Boosie doesn't really appreciate that at a certain point. Now, I haven't actually got a chance to watch it yet, but I want to. Boosie put out an entire interview on Patreon. Now, there are no clips that have actually made their way to his YouTube channel yet, but we have seen the scenario that Vlad oftentimes tries to avoid in which nearly every notable moment from the Boosie Patreon has now made its way to the Instagram accounts and the Twitter accounts.

1:09:48where they already ripped it all the rippers ripped it exactly and so what vlad quite often does because he's had to deal with this so many times over the years is basically like if he has let's say there's 30 clips from the boosie interview let's say the first four are really really viral things that he knows will spread aggressively on uh different pages or whatever he won't put it out for members he'll drop those four clips then he'll put out the whole thing for members and that way he's he knows those people will just rip it and then take all the traffic and also if you've ever watched a vlad interview in which he kind of like awkwardly like goes right into like the most viral there's no quite often there's no small talk because the thing we got to get to the clips that i'm gonna get out first otherwise this is weird so that's been going on i haven't actually watched it yet there is one clip that a lot of people were saying like vlad would have edited this out and it's basically boosie describing how in an upcoming movie of his there's a rape scene and it sounded like it's him doing the alleged r-wording boosie all right now i gotta play for you guys you gotta hear boosie talk about it because it's kind of awkward yeah i saw the vlad tweet about the patreon interview and he's like you know boosie's running into all the same stuff I've ran into.

1:11:10He's got to start focusing on dropping fire content for years and years to build up a fan base. So he was definitely going in on Boosie lately. And let's also point out before we even watch this, as much as I would assume that the allegations are not true, Boosie did have a girl come out a couple of weeks ago and basically say that Boosie R-worded her. Oh, I did see that. When she was very young. We haven't really heard any updates on that situation. He denounced it and then it just kind of went away. Boosie claims that he is actually like suing her but either way Boosie sort of explains this movie scene here and to say that this is awkward is probably an understatement but let's check this out.

1:11:57Scene in there that might get a lot, well we'll get a lot. I got like a rape scene in there. Pussy, you gotta rape the music. Hold on, let me explain it. Before I fuck up. It's not really a rape scene. It's like my best friend fucking my wife. And so I'm gonna go put something in his wife's drink. His fiancee drink. and she gonna pass out and i'm gonna say rape absolutely i'm gonna have sexy lingerie i'm gonna put a lingerie on her you know kiss on her body soft you know uh but she gonna be out but it's like it's like sexual like i wouldn't call it it's not aggravated I wouldn't call it aggravated I would call it a sexual misdemeanor something like that a sexual misdemeanor sexual misdemeanor yeah cause it's not it's not that kind of rape it's like a you know putting her stuff on so I wouldn't call it a it's like a sexual misdemeanor so So for the record, if you put something in a woman's drink that makes her pass out, for sure that's rape.

1:13:36Non-consensual, absolutely. And for sure, if you dress her up in a nice dress, I don't even think this needs to be said, but for sure that is rape. now I know Boosie's talking about something that his character in the movie does but it does kind of stand out that maybe Vlad had been keeping the Boosie train on the tracks in a way that we were sort of like undervaluing because now he's on his own platform it seems like they forgot to set a light up which kind of adds to obviously the music added a lot like this dark energy to the clip now But it's just very strange. And the fact that there's absolutely no pushback from the person on the other side of the camera, and for the record, having not seen it in full, who knows?

1:14:26Maybe he did push back a little bit. But for sure, I can imagine if Vlad was in the room that Vlad would have done a whole lot of like, okay, wait, so what? He would have really like... He would have pushed to try to get him to make sense in a way that was really lacking. I feel like this whole thing is getting ugly too. One misstep that I think that Vlad did was when he started talking about what the number was that he was paying Boosie. Because I don't know if you've seen this now, but Aerie Spears. Well, okay, so you're speeding now because we're definitely going to get to that. Oh, my God.

1:14:59But yeah, it does seem like Vlad kind of had Boosie tiptoeing on the line of crossing the line, but he was always able to know where the line is because he's been doing content so long. And that's kind of what Adam was saying on the last part. will boosie find somebody to kind of be able to know that line and then know to push back when he says yeah this isn't our word and someone when you slip something in her drink and she ain't even know it on some rick ross shit you ever notice when there's like the little cuts in uh in uh different vlad videos where it kind of feels like you know something has been cut out i kind of feel like everything he said there should have been cut out yeah because it's just not even like the You got that.

1:15:39It's a character and all this, the way that he's talking about it and justifying it, even just for your character. It's like, well, you know that, you know, this guy did this to my wife in the movie. So obviously, obviously that can only lead you to this. Yeah. And so, um, you know, again, I haven't like really dug in and honestly, I haven't really like seen any clips going crazy, uh, besides this one. So like, I know, Oh, actually I did see one clip where he sort of denounces Gucci main a little bit and sort of makes it clear. that's a good clip too yeah that's a that's definitely a good clip but the thing that's weird about it is like so this is available for six dollars on boosie's patreon if you buy it on your iphone it's actually nine dollars i believe i noticed and looking at it right now and granted this is not like a great judge of how much this content earned but it currently has 71 likes on Patreon.

1:16:34It's 65 comments. And notably, you have to buy the piece of content directly for$6. So as opposed to like on No Jumper or Vlad where you pay$5 a month and that gets you access to all of the bonus content. It's just that one piece. This is per piece and this is like Boosie interview part one. So I don't know how many parts they actually cut. But 701 likes is not a good sign. for sure it's not like thousands and thousands of likes like you know right like you said they're the clips are out there already okay and so this is a hour and 21 minutes that you get for six dollars which to be fair you know it's damn near the length of a motion picture so you know six bucks and probably the hottest boosie interview and how long you know with this beef with vlad and people want to hear what he's talking about right but i think that if he had adopted uh vlad's actual model in which Vlad records the whole piece of content and then starts dripping out piece by piece and then also had the bonus option where you could go watch it I think that that would make a lot more sense for what he's doing because currently you kind of just need to see the clips on Instagram or Twitter and then like sort of find the Patreon and sign up for it so I do think that this does not seem like it's fully optimized right now but yeah so what you were saying is that basically Vlad made it clear that he was paying Boosie$25 ,000.

1:18:05Now, this has opened up a whole slew of new issues for Vlad because he actually got hit up by Aries Spears. Now, Aries, comedian, actor, et cetera, been working in Hollywood and whatnot for, I don't know, like 40 years or some shit like that. He's been around for a long time. And legendary Vlad interviewee. the amount of clips that are still circulating from five six seven years ago harry's like on there i mean they have pirate versions of ari spears clips like it's like super legendary it's like taking on a sort of like meme status over the last couple years that i think like nobody was really expecting including ari spears and vlad and so yeah like their partnership and i watched as vlad kind of like manicured and sculpted the relationship with aries because i think he he saw where Aries could have the same sort of relationship with the audience that Boosie has the difference being Aries gets a lot less views than Boosie which is not really hard to fathom Boosie's like you know basically does Vlad interviews and like is extremely popular or whatever but it's that raw unapologetic answer say whatever he feels and you could talk to Aries Spears about things that you probably couldn't really talk to Boosie about the gay conversation went viral with them talking about Vlad saying something wasn't gay and he's just like no you're gay so basically as this whole conversation is taking place in the public eye about Boosie Aries Spears reaches out to Vlad and says yo we need to renegotiate because apparently now we know because Vlad actually put an hour-long video of him and academics talking about this is that basically he was paying aries spears a thousand dollars and as the years went by it got up to four thousand dollars so he's actually paying him four thousand dollars roughly like once a month to do an interview and i guess he lives right near vlad's studio uh that's pretty good yeah pretty good especially considering that like every other pot and vlad loves to mention this but like every other podcast that aries was going on was not paying you know all these comedy podcasts etc they weren't paying strength yeah Right.

1:20:11And so he built up this relationship and he actually verbalized like what the approximate earn from the whole thing would be. And he said that Vlad was basically earning around the same amount. So he might make$4 ,000, pay Ares Spears$4 ,000. They would chop up the 8K. So when Ares reaches out to Vlad and says he wants to renegotiate, and I guess they had just had this conversation. He had just bumped them from 3K to 4K. Vlad goes home starts looking at his computer and basically sends over some information to Ares saying hey this is how much your episodes have been earning I don't know like what kind of raise you're expecting or whatever but this is basically it's not going to be possible for us given how much your episodes have been earning and he also kind of acknowledged one thing that I had pointed out which is like Boosie was doing Vlad three times a year he probably would have been doing it every month if not for the If not for the fact that he was having to spend so much on it.

1:21:09So Vlad was kind of in a situation where he had to wait and wait and wait and let a bunch of really, really good topics accumulate. Then he interviews Boosie and he's able to get all these topics. Quick fires all up to him. But man, I saw Vlad do something that I hadn't seen him do in a long time, which is that he went in on Aries Spears. He said, fuck Aries Spears. he said Aries Spears will never be on the same platform as him again he said that Aries is overweight, sweaty overweight, he just included these things fat sweaty bitch one thing that he communicated that was kind of surprising to me is that Aries I guess is a real diva when it comes to doing this content to a certain extent, I've heard that too about podcasts with him too he would bring a towel with him because he has to sort of blot his brow towel because he'd be sweating and flat when he's explaining this says yeah yeah he's overweight which is like kind of unnecessary but he sort of threw that in there and uh i guess one time he goes to the podcast and doesn't have his towel and he says to the the guy working there he's like hey do y 'all have like a towel i could do and he tries to hand him a bunch of paper towels and he's just basically like no absolutely yeah he's like basically sends him on a mission to go get more uh to go get a real towel or whatever but either way like i was pretty surprised by this because over the years i think i've seen vlad sort of like learn that being egotistical when it comes to doing your podcast and getting interviews and stuff is not really like the best look right sure it's not strategy valuable to you because really like from my perspective when me and munchie had our flare up over my uh you know kitten gate moving his chair stop touching me i was kind of proud of myself because i didn't do the thing that i have often that maybe part of me wanted to do in that moment which was like go off on him violate him talk a bunch of shit whatever instead i avoided doing that and you know within like five days six days whatever i was able to sort of yeah resuscitate the relationship because munchie is somebody that i value doing podcasts with and uh yeah vlad really went the opposite way with this in the sense that like it seems pretty likely that aries is never going to go on vlad again at the rate and it seems like that's just something you kind of got to read the room on with aries it's like you see that he just is having his beef over negotiations and like up and boosy his most valuable players fucking contract and then you're going to come from pretty much you know you know one of the role players and you ask him for more money when all these narratives about vlad not doing as well the channel not doing as well him losing boosy and that's the time you go to ask for more money i can see why him being like oh you got me fucked up that's where i think the misstep on vlad was because if you're going up there and you're getting what four thousand you find out somebody's getting 25 you're like and he's trying to get 30 you're like well they're bumping me up to the 10 but also if i'm looking at my interviews and boost he's doing 10x i'm expecting to get paid 10x but a lot of people don't like like from aries perspective he views himself as kind of the main character because he sees his own feed he sees the clips of him constantly going viral he doesn't maybe have the algorithm that's necessarily tuned to seeing all these boosie clips i know for me personally i never really ran into the aries spears tiktok clips you know like my algorithm i guess just operates in a different way i hear people talk about it and i believe them but i just don't really see it and that's just how social media is my girl tells me all the time about stuff that's viral that i don't really know anything about it and vice versa she would be so stunned by me not knowing about some real trend and i'm like you know i just i don't see it but like she'll she'll like when a new taylor swift album drops she's like oh was everybody talking about a no jumper news i'm like i'm like i could ask every single person on the news they would all let you know that they have not seen anything about it they don't know that it's out etc so yeah i mean so many niches so many worlds i think this It hurts Vlad, though, because if Boosie's your top dog, and I think Aries is at least in his top five of people who are on there.

1:25:18At least reoccurring, very reoccurring. But Vlad listed out all the different guests that are repeat guests that do better than Aries, and it was like Wack, it was 6 '9", it was Gilbert Arenas, it was like Tony Yayo. It kind of says a lot that his pod with Aries Spears is so popular and that it is not probably in the top 10 or maybe it's 10. Because all those people you named are like kind of more currently relevant and Ares Spears is just, you know, entertaining and funny just on his own, even if he's not the most relevant character. And the total kill shot that Vlad sends out during the thing is basically that like Ares career was like not in a great spot.

1:25:58He had that whole little thing with the kids. Oh, I forgot about that. That was with the kids and that PDF sketch that they had. Tiffany Haddish I think was in it too they were helping each other that's like more recent he did talk about that but like post mad TV he's talking about like over the last 10 years which I do he basically said that like Ares hasn't had like a big movie role in like 30 years no for sure yeah which I think the last one he said was like Jerry Brown or something Jerry Maguire I've only seen him on podcast for the last 10 years and so mad TV but it's like unfortunate that like Ares spent a lot of time telling Vlad how relevant Vlad has made him in the sense of like he's in Europe and Vlad has these texts I guess like where he's in Europe and people are coming out of the woodwork.

1:26:47You can't turn on that guy when you're sending him those type of messages. To tell Vlad like thank you so much because your support has opened me up to a whole new audience and now I'm in Germany and people are coming up to me and they know exactly who I am. That gives them all the leverage. And so it's kind of like you know like from Vlad's perspective it's like why am I like doing all this for you and I was like part of the agreement with Vlad is like maybe you're not making the lion's share of the profit from the interview but it's a really really big platform that is going to allow you to grow and be recognized by bigger audiences which is like the same reason why if Joe Rogan hit any of us up tomorrow and said hey i want to bring you on we would all i need 5k joe rogan yeah exactly literally yeah people would do that they'd be like yeah 5k joe rogan oh come on boosie wouldn't go on shannon sharp because he's like no i do paid interviews i don't know you know which is like it's a very simplified version of granted like going on shannon sharp is it really that different of an audience i mean probably not like when you're on the breakfast club and fly on all these different platforms what is shannon sharp sure like i get that but like ultimately aries put out a lot of information to Vlad to make it clear that he considered Vlad responsible for resuscitating his career.

1:28:06And once you've made that clear, it's kind of tough to then play super, super hardball, especially when you consider they're getting paid$4K to go do an interview for two hours. Ten minutes from your house is a pretty good deal. Almost everybody you know in your life would be perfectly happy to do that. Let's say he feels like he resuscitated his career, but now his career is doing pretty good. You know, it was at a low point. I need to be compensated. Yeah. Now I feel like I'm a little more popping than when you found me. And yeah, you helped me. But, you know, the numbers are numbering. And I think I see what this dude's getting paid.

1:28:39And I've been loyal to you. And I'm not trying to turn my back on you, Vlad. You can't up it a little bit more. But if it's not, I mean, he's going to lose money interviewing you. Then it's like there's pretty much no arguments. As a platform owner, Adam, do you think that now all the people that go to now interview with him are going to be using this Boosie metric? Like, what am I getting there? Are they all going to want more than they probably should get now? I mean, for sure, Vlad, like, created this environment that we're all now, this hell that we're all now living in. Yeah, because you guys talk a lot about, like, Vlad's telling you, oh, yeah, I paid this guy this much.

1:29:12You know, you guys kind of price matching on guests and things like that. But Vlad was the OG of that. We do work together, and there has been times where, you know, somebody asked me for X amount of dollars, and I just said, yo, Vlad, would you pay this guy? And he tells me exactly what it is, and I say, to the guy like i can't pay you that because i you know blah blah i already know you got this well i don't really like yeah this is as much as i could pay and you'll know they'll accept it pretty much yeah yeah and i mean i can kind of like look at somebody's interview on vlad and kind of look at the views and kind of get a general idea of how much i could afford to pay them like a ballpark at least yeah if it was like a real coveted interview or anything like that but i mean the game is wild right now because like i remember we were in atlanta maybe like a year and a half ago and we were like trying to like line up like additional interviews just to make the trip make a little bit more sense and it's like everybody that we hit up was trying to get paid and i mean vlad was the first person as he'll gladly tell you to like really start paying guests and now as a result it's kind of like everybody in the game wants to get paid now some people i understand like when we're in atlanta and fucking no neck jay was trying to get paid on one hand it's like bruh you need promotion like you need the world to see you you are not such a big star that it makes sense for us to pay you but also i get it because like how are you really monetizing your existence like for somebody like uh like a stand-up comic okay let's say aries never got paid to do the vibe pods it would have made so much sense regardless for him to keep doing it because it upped his whole fucking career exposure he's gonna get anywhere yeah and that's like the old school logic was people wanted to do podcasts just because they figured that the exposure would translate into money or some sort of value and now as time goes by you know and i i think vlad might have said that the first person he paid was key pd because it's like that's a story you need pretty much you know it's gonna what it's gonna do that but then also the fact that like what is key pd doing to monetize his existence as an elder i don't need exposure over here yeah but he did have a book so i mean like okay old school mentality would be like yeah i'm gonna go on vlad and it's gonna help me to move my book my book's gonna sell in reality no people are gonna watch vlad tv and be done with not going to buy your book i don't even understand how anybody puts out a book in this day because to me a book a book is something that you put on the shelf that looks cool because realistically like i know myself i don't really read books anymore i read a book every once in a while to like remind myself that i still have the ability to read a book but for the most part like if you're somebody who's going to watch a two-hour uh interview with with kvd you're probably that's much more into everything you need from the book you're not going to say oh god like i really want to spend 10 more hours of my life reading this fucking book right yeah and i'd be reading books but i'm not reading the book about kvd being a part of you know tupac's killing or whatever and these interviews are the bullet points let me just yeah exactly it's like vlad you know probably went through the book and found the best shit and now he's asking you about it it's like yeah the rest is just gonna be like what you ate for breakfast that morning but then the really damning thing is like uh brandy just put out a book and for sure never in a million years would i read brandy's book but i like immediately saw every single headline or every notable thing from the book yeah they always take all the quotes post it on pop trade every other page which is like you know if i work doing social media for no jumper and the brandy book drops you know i'm probably gonna tell somebody on the fucking team like hey go read the whole brandy book and like just screenshot anything that is like notable and we'll just post about it that's not against the rules but it definitely like removes any like my girl bought like the britney spears book and i was just like i already seen like 20 social media post like i i can tell you everything in that book yeah we watch the rise in the fall like but also i just saw 20 tweets that were going over like every interesting thing that she said in the book and i don't really think that there's anything that like could really be like social media paraphrases the book you don't gotta read it yeah we're getting to the point where you're just gonna upload the book to chat gpt and say hey give me the most salacious stories from this it's gonna spit up like imagine if boosie put out a book right now it's like that is a decent idea but like also you've spent the last 10 years doing all these interviews like letting out every single thing what's gonna be in this book that we haven't already heard yeah maybe if it's boosie reading the book to us you know chapter by chapter that could be something a lot of them don't have the gumption to do that because it's so difficult yeah you know like i fucking yeah i've like read scripts for videos that took like hours and hours and like but doing that for like a book is like oh yeah yeah the voiceover stuff eight hours a day for five days straight a lot of people shout out to prodigy though you know i'm saying he has the narration of his whole book out there yeah yeah because i would be pretty happy to just let the ai like upload your voice yeah do the heavy lifting i mean if it's like 85 as good as me reading it myself but the 15 is you sounding super gay though yeah i sounded gay what would you still accept that sure like it sounds very zesty at certain points but you really think that's how it goes yeah i think so i think that's how your book would be at least i hope that boosy keeps going with the patreon thing like you know build it up i don't know about six dollars an interview though like we're paying so much for content these days like but hey i'm i'm about that like you know if you're not getting what you feel like you were go build it yourself here's the problem too is that um when it comes to what kind of audience will pay for content you have to cure they curate that type of audience.

1:34:49There's that, but then there's also socioeconomic factors at play here. And part of the reason why, you know, if you put out a book and it's aimed at like, you know, white women in their 40s, they're probably going to buy your book if that's your audience. Boosie is a champion to the streets. Right, and they ain't paying for books. Well, I mean, we're talking about the Patreon now. A lot of them aren't even paying for the exclusive lab. They're waiting for the clips and watching that. A lot of people in the streets, I mean, even like YouTube feels a little antiquated to them because they're so used to reels and TikTok.

1:35:21Of the interview game, you know? So when I look at this, and I mean, granted, like, it's hard to get social media engagement on Patreon posts, but like 71 likes and 65 comments, like on Joe Budden's Patreon episodes that he puts up, you will see like three to four thousand likes with like a couple thousand comments. Per post. Right. Which is pretty astonishing, honestly. Like that still blows my mind that that many people are on his Patreon. eight years you know that's what you get you know it's not like i just jumped joe button jumped on there and everybody was rushing to buy he's been pushing that for a year after a year and i know like exactly how much money vlad makes off members and this is someone who's been grinding away at that feature for five years really pushing people towards his members feature and it's a cool amount of money but it definitely ain't what boosie thinks it is yeah right you know and that's probably what he's taking into consideration asking for more people who pay five bucks a month on no jumper or vlad are getting early access to like i don't know no jumper it might be like 20 interviews a month yeah i'm glad it might be probably around the same like today it was like two or three i think right a premiere and just today yeah so i mean i don't know i really feel like boosie probably like because of everything that has been said publicly is not going to be able to just stop doing this?

1:36:41He's probably just not going to rekindle the relationship with Vlad. No, I don't think so. I think ego will stop that. That's the unfortunate thing too is because no matter what they do separately, I don't think they're going to duplicate what they could have did together. Well, I don't believe that. I don't think that whatever Boosie does is going to blow out the water what he was doing with Vlad and I don't feel like Vlad is going to find that. You think Vlad will be better off though just because he has the system and that. But I just think that what they could have done together when they separated like i just feel like they would have been better but this is the better together i completely agree but the problem is is that vlad does 30 to 40 full length youtube uh views per month 30 to 40 million and i think that like a very very good performing boosie interview might be like four or five million views which is significant for sure it's still really good Like 1 %?

1:37:39But, I mean, you know, it's just not really like quite, well, not 1%, but more like 10%, 20%. Which is kind of a lot. But, I mean, it's just like. It's not moving the needle like he thinks it is. Yeah. It's not make or break for Vlad. But you do kind of like, I mean, hardcore Vlad fans will remember the dire times during COVID when he had his Farrakhan controversy and like Lord Jamar left and Godfrey left. And there was a time period there. Like he was done for for a little bit. We were kind of like, damn, is Vlad just going to fall apart? That's the only time in which Vlad has been hounding me to do interviews.

1:38:13Yeah. And I was like, oh, shit, this guy needs me right now. And I did it. Whatever. I didn't have to get paid or whatever. But it's a weird time. And it's like, hopefully, this is kind of the end of this in the sense of, hopefully, there's nobody else on Vlad's platform that's also going to chime in and be like, hey. i need five thousand more dollars more money yeah i mean hopefully for him it's not like a concurrent thing that ripple effect it just keeps happening do you think you agree with doleboy that was a misstep he even saying the dollar amount and just setting that bar yeah like for me personally i find that like talking about money publicly especially anything that makes you look good is definitely a mistake because it's just going to cause everybody to have you know everybody's just going to push and push to get more out of you and i could think of a moment with you on that one podcast like what was that a few years ago a couple years ago and they said how much you make a million a month and it just lit the streets on fire yeah i remember that and for the record i was lying i was exaggerating it was also the height of covid yeah for sure you're doing well for that moment was the most money that i had ever been making in my life it was going quite well if you were to ask me a year later it would have been a much much different answer very different answer a year later was that the iced coffee guys was that yeah yeah yeah shout out to them and you know what i was trying to do with that and like i planned it out because they like all their youtube titles at the time were like very clickbaity salation this guy who makes fucking four hundred thousand dollars a month doing this like a financial that's how they were sucking everybody in and i'm driving to vegas and i'm thinking the whole time about how i'm gonna have to like give them something for the for the title and i figured you know what I'm gonna say this and it's like so many times in this culture if you are of color you're allowed to basically like rant and rave about your wealth and it will be received very positively right I mean Charlemagne signed a 200 million dollar black effect deal allegedly the million dollars worth of game signed a hundred million dollar uh barstool barstool deal allegedly right and it's like you know I kind of felt like oh I could just kind of do a similar thing it turns out it's really just not the same when you're a white guy doing it yeah i feel like joe rogan got it off but he wasn't the one pushing it it was like everybody else from spotify but i feel like we all knew that about joe rogan it didn't really change he did he got like many many hundreds of millions of dollars from spotify and everything but he wasn't flaunting i wouldn't say him himself was flaunting so that was a different yeah he didn't never said it and joe rogan's a one-man show yeah he's not paying people for interviews it's all his homies coming through Yeah, like maybe when he signs a Spotify deal, Jamie asks for a little raise or whatever, but it's a tiny, tiny drop in the bucket.

1:41:00Whereas for me at that time, like, you know, literally every single person who worked for No Jumper asked for a raise. Yes. And that had to be nice. But fair to you, right? After saying that. I mean, yeah, I can't even blame him because it's like I put that out there. And it was also it was weird because it's like I didn't really want to tell everybody like, yo, I'm lying. I'm lying. I'm just kidding. like yeah right bro right when i asked for a raise now it's all a joke yeah no that was a that was an awkward time in my life yeah for sure i shouldn't have done that but you know my lesson but um yeah i don't know best of luck to boozy aries spears i messaged aries spears i said hey you want to do an interview 5 000 but it's worth it's worth a lot more it's worth more right now No, for sure.

1:41:50That's going to be worth at any other time. No, for sure. Did he hit you back? Not yet. Okay. Aries is funny. I like Aries. Oh, you forgot P-Nice. Yeah, the chance. You forgot P-Nice $1 million. Yeah, he might have got more than$1 million worth the game. By the way, $1 million worth the game. I noticed that they're kind of switching things up. They're doing episodes without a guest now. Oh, I like that. I like when they were doing that more way back in the day. That was the original format. That's how Mona, don't call me white girl, that's how she came. That's when I used to listen to them the most honestly the guests is kind of i was you know hit or miss on the game i want to get your take on something what do you think about the podcasts that are going to netflix do you feel like that cannibalizes their audience total mistake i mean i think it's okay if you are a podcast that is so popular that you're confident that a large chunk of your audience is going to be willing to take the leap to another platform and if the money is so life-changing that it's worth it to you to potentially lose like 80 of your viewership which i do think is probably like pretty fair so much for everybody yeah yeah then i mean hey everybody's got a number if somebody hit me with some outrageous offer right now i guess i would have to like kind of roll with it but ultimately like i mean for me for act for a lot of different people i've had this conversation with it just feels like you know your audience is such a part of you and such a part of why it's fun to do it and even like on the 24-hour streams i mean like lush was saying it and i completely agree that it's like there's moments where he wanted to just tap out and then he would look and see there's 4 000 people watching when you have 4 000 people watching it just makes you feel like you're part of something and when you have like if it was 200 people watching i just wouldn't feel hey guys i'm gonna go take a nap you know that king pill fight like we had like 8 000 people watching like i didn't even want to turn the stream off to get in the car and drive home you know i wanted to keep the stream going on the hour drive back to the office just because i felt so lucky to have that many people like sharing the stream with us but is that worth you know millions of million dollars turning that down to you that's kind of what you have to weigh out yeah and i mean like from charlemagne's perspective or whatever i mean they don't own the well i guess they like own the breakfast club ip in some way or whatever like a percentage at least but i don't think it was really like their choice so it's like you know the parent company was like hey this is good the people i feel bad for are like the rory malls or the joe and jada's even yeah they're very brand new just to put them behind a paywall that fast yeah yeah you got to build up those loyal fans that don't even want to care even doing the members only content is like it's difficult to justify it in your head because it's as much as it's like i feel like it's a essential part of like building the business up we just need to have that as a consistent revenue stream it's just like it just hurts to to do one stream and have cutting down the numbers yeah you do one you have 7 000 people watching and then you go members only on the next one you got a thousand people watching and it's like you know even though it like makes you feel good about the business that a thousand people were willing to pay five bucks it's still like i don't know just the energy is different for sure and i think going to i i know it's like a niche thing too but i think going to netflix i know it's gonna sound random but like You lose people being able to comment on shit.

1:45:00I think there's a really big thing on YouTube. People want to feel like they're... Thumbs up, thumbs down. All that shit. Nah, that's a fact. But yeah, I think all the Netflix people seem like... Oh, you finally found it? I just pulled that up. Definitely. Yeah, it seems like they're all kind of... I wouldn't say regretting it, but definitely their YouTube audience is suffering hardcore for sure. Yeah, and I noticed that they started to post longer episodes. episodes i don't know if it was like uh like five at first i think they were maxing out of like four or five um uh minute minute clips and then now i notice i'm sometimes doing longer clips so it makes me feel like for sure behind the scenes they know that the vibes are bad and that they need to change things up yeah but even beyond that like there was a whole article that was like crowning the breakfast club like the most successful podcast on the netflix app or whatever which i have no idea if that's actually true that probably is true because they kind of have the most normie kind of you know audience you know they listen to them on the radio it's not just the youtube specific you know that's where your base is so i could believe that and the logic of it is like and that's why i'm a patreon downer like i just don't i would never want to move our shit to patreon you know i move it to members but then they don't have to get off platform platform is important that's so much better because you did have it and then you ended up we had a patreon but mostly our patreon thing went back in the day was uh just people uh subscribing for like naked girl episodes yeah like the legend some of the legendary lush episodes yeah lush spitting in carmen karma's mouth that was yeah probably the highlight of the patreon for sure effectively causing her to swear off working with male porn stars anymore at that point oh she was done after that i don't know if it was related since it was like four years later but yeah i assume there was a clinic afterwards and then retired thought about it no definitely um okay this is jim jones i found yeah i was watching this cracking it he's at lowe's which apparently he loves going he said he loves it so much which really stood out to me because i don't think i've been to lowe's or home depot in like yeah probably i don't know if i have years if i have to it's home depot all day though you know i'm saying all the lows we don't have do we have a lot of lows i don't think we have a lot of lows in northern california like that no more i see them out here but home depot we're home depot all day yeah home depot gang no i was all home depot where i grew up it was home depot's in like every different direction like you could drive like 15 minutes and hit a home depot like a mcdonald's starbucks i used to like actually earn a living off stealing from home depot what'd you steal like saw blades and you sell them on the black market ebay oh we should fire that back wait how did you steal these like how would you conceal them in his pants yeah yeah but they all had like cardboard around it or whatever and i would just walk in there this is before they got cameras and shit and i would just take you know put like 15 of them in my waistline and just walk out and then go home and sell them all for like 30 bucks and like that would be all like realistically i could do that like one time and that would be like all the money i needed for the month damn because i like was the glory day my parents and shit stealing before cameras were invented that's that's a good time yeah definitely all right so Let's check out Jim Jones flipping out on a Lowe's employee.

1:48:17This manager decided to take upon himself to tell me what I've done wrong. So tell the people that. You're mad that I found these locks for$78 because y 'all put the wrong price. Y 'all put the wrong price. You don't want to look at me now? You just had a lot to say. You don't have nothing to say? You're mad that I found it. What's up, dog? How you feeling? They had the price under it. And we know that all stores, when you make a mistake and keep the items under the price, they have to honor it. You came over here while I was having a conversation with a nice black young lady and proceeded to say, oh, if we place our items anywhere, then that's the price, right?

1:48:54That's how you treat a customer at Lowe's? Are you the manager? You said you're the manager, right? So instead of de-escalating the situation, you added fuel to the fire. You didn't come over here with customer service. You came over here with bad service. Huh? Why? Because I'm a black man trying to do good things? Or what was it? Because I was talking to a black lady. Good things. Huh? You have nothing to say? Well, this is going right to Lowe's. For the record, Lowe's official policy explicitly says that they can refuse to sell you a mispriced item and instead offer it at the correct price or cancel the sale.

1:49:26Damn. Home Depot would never. His assumption there is false. In fact. So he's just wrong. And it's also easy to understand why, because literally anyone could walk into Lowe's and take the sticker off a pack of Skittles and put it on a friggin$400 light. Yeah. Be like, hey. $4. Yeah, which I know a lot of people who made a lot of money throughout their lives by doing this exact scam that we're describing, which is basically like taking an item and then just like switching the price. But yeah. Right to Lowe's. I hope that you got your job, bro. What's up, brother? How you feeling? Perfect. Jim Jones got early dementia.

1:50:01Oh, shit, got the police out. Because they made the wrong price on their stuff. It was on speed down. And the guy said, yes, it is$78. This is what's policy? We were refusing service. To be fair, this is so beneath our beautiful police officers. Like, this is just like the last thing that they should be spending their time on. They're just half smiling. Like, how does this incident require the police? What are the police going to say? This is a conversation between the employees of the store and the customer and the policies that the store has in place in terms of what they will sell you something based on.

1:50:40Like, what could the cops possibly have to do with this? Yeah, they didn't know they were pissed off. Remember, you're going to be viral. You're going to be viral. I don't think Lowe's is going to like this. You see how they treat us, Lowe's? You're going to be viral in the morning. You're going to be viral is the lamest thing you could say when filming something in public. It's kind of true. My name is Joseph Jones. Joseph Jones. That's not his real name, is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. So that's why he told me. He told me, look. Bro, you don't really have to explain nothing to them. The social media will explain it to them later.

1:51:12And this guy, they will know your name in seconds, bro. You're going to be so viral later for trying to cause this problem. You don't want to escalate. You're supposed to be the manager. I hope you have a job for your family in the morning. Now you disappeared because you called police. For what? For what? Jim Crow. Can you get someone behind him? He was supposed to be around five minutes ago. Yeah, but he came. Right now, while we're here, can you get someone else to ring him up? Now it's somebody else to ring him up. The manager just came out here and told me that I can't shop in here. He said I did something wrong.

1:51:50Yeah, but Dave went to check the price to verify. It doesn't matter. The price was wrong. We had to give it to him and honor. Okay. That's all I need. Oh, they're going to be so viral tomorrow. You do not have to. they said they were going to honor it they probably just want to get the police out of there they want Jim Jones to leave us from screaming this is our fucking policy this is what happens too much in America I'm going to be honest with you I just could never imagine communicating with the employees at a store in this way no matter what there's literally nothing that the employees at a store in a shopping plaza right by the mall that they could ever possibly do that would make me get that out of pocket and that loud.

1:52:32Like, I just don't understand how you could ever really rise to that occasion. But Jim Jones, he didn't catch it on camera, but he was saying the dude was being rude as fuck to him before, you know, that he cut the camera on. That's kind of what prompted him to do that. So I feel like you're pretty quick to kind of snap at somebody if they're being rude as fuck to you, if you feel like it's kind of for no reason. I feel like you could kind of catch an attitude with the Lowe's guy. Maybe, but there's also really no part of me that's going to want to make a short film. No, that part. Send it out to the world.

1:53:00Go viral. Look at the police here. Via Instagram reel. I don't think I've ever gotten loud with any employee at any store ever like this. Yeah, it's a little much. And then plus, I don't like the part where every time it just has to go to race. Like every time, I'm a black man. It's like, bruh, it was a mix up. You think they're calling the police if he wasn't black, though? Gee, what? You think they're calling the police if he wasn't black? If that was Adam, you know, filming everybody? If there's some angry ass redneck screaming at him like that, I feel like it would be exactly the same. I don't know.

1:53:35Everything ain't about race. I think they were quicker to call the police when they saw black people yelling at him, for sure. It seems like it was an honest mistake. Okay, something was mispriced. Okay, I can't give you something for 70 % of a slash rate because we made a mistake. Okay, this is what it is. You don't got to pull out your phone, Don't try to make people go viral and accuse people of being racist. The only reason I'm vouching for him because I am somebody who likes to stand on my opinion pretty, you know, unabashedly. So, like, what if he feels, obviously, Adam read the policy, but Jim Jones thought that they price, you know, they give you whatever price is on there.

1:54:08And even the manager told the worker, hey, he said it was like this. We got to honor that. He said that. So Jim Jones in that situation, how they're explaining it to him, feels he's in the right and feels like he's, it's like the principle. It's like, yeah, that thing Jim Jones probably doesn't have money problems where he needs it for$78, but he's looking at us, Hey, I come here all the time. I give you guys business. You guys are mistreating me over something. I feel like I'm correct on. I would, I would really like to know how much those lights actually cost and how much he was trying to get them for the price difference.

1:54:40Because it says here that it's okay. Okay, so it's at the manager's discretion. If it's a small pricing mistake, like a few dollars, then it's often honored just to keep things smooth. But a big mistake, like a$500 item labeled as$50, is almost always denied. And also, for the record, for anyone who thinks that it might be an issue with the law, legally, they are not in any way required to sell items for the amount that it is labeled as. No, for sure. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. But it seems like they gave him the lights for the price that he wanted. So it's like. That's what he wanted. Yeah. Why even post a video at that point?

1:55:16Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like once they give you what you want. It's not like they threw him out like Jazzy Jeff and then just said, you know, kick rocks. It's like they said, hey, we'll honor it. Sorry, man. Just quit yelling. I just also feel like throughout my life, my parents always made this abundantly clear to me, which is that working retail sucks. It does. And that anyone who's working a job that you objectively feel like probably sucks is somebody that you should probably have a bit of empathy for. Yeah, cut some slack. So like, I feel like everything you need to know about most people, you can kind of ascertain from how they treat the waitress at the restaurant or the coffee barista, et cetera.

1:55:53It's like, if you take this waitress who really doesn't have a choice about interacting with you and serving you, and you use that as an opportunity to belittle her or treat her like in a way that you don't treat the other people in your life to me that's just really pathetic and even though jim jones is behaving as if he's been aggrieved in some way here and this is justified i just really think it's pathetic yeah being a grown when when they call him a senior citizen this is what they're talking about this is like average behavior for like a amped up testosterone fueled 18 year old he's like 50 he's older than that whipping out your phone and you're going to go viral for this man and then we had that we seen the debacle over like the studio being paid for and stuff that clip of jim and it's kind of seemed like oh man you're tripping over this is starting to seem like you know you're might have some money you're kind of pinching pennies kind of you know with this type of energy that is the tone deaf energy of this is that he has been extremely viral the last few months because 50 cent has been clowning him about the fact that he apparently can't afford the rent on his podcast studio how does this take away from that narrative this encourages that so much if you want to combat that you probably shouldn't be tripping on the lows manager you're a millionaire right that's true yeah insane yeah maybe he's not so that's why he needs the the lights for cheaper as soon as i seen jim jones working out a 24-hour fitness i was like okay something ain't happening up here something's off the rails yeah good deals usually yeah they call you a lot if you sign that until you sign that yeah it's probably like right around the corner it's convenient to get to or whatever i just know for me personally being a lot less famous than jim jones like no way i don't really want to go to the 24-hour fitness bro like i'm a public figure if i'm in that environment i'm gonna have to talk to way too many fucking random people yeah at least gotta get like an equinox or something yeah ever since at least get equinox money look at the six nine situation yeah that's what stop anybody from working out a regular ass gym as a clouded up person i am still to this day confused about why uh six nine did not have his own treadmill in his home yeah because he was doing well even at that time you know it's not like he was that down bad it's like the biggest house you ever seen in your life and the fucking treadmill is like two grand or some shit like i don't really understand that part there's a lake but no treadmill yeah it's a place on a lake but no treadmill but i guess six nine is well you know he's been out for a little bit before he got out they were really trying to line up interview content you know they're trying to get me to fucking fly out and like do an interview with him like the moment that he got out and everything like that and uh i don't know i know vlad is like going there to do another interview but oh well i mean all the snitch topics are really that's what we need i was i was about to say that it doesn't feel like there's that much new stuff to ask 69 about over the course of the last like two months since he's been locked up but then i thought about the gucci man thing you think it'll ever come to fruition because he keeps saying like i'm gonna be a streamer you know everyday streamer but it seems like you know like Steve will do it try to get him that bag for the stream streaming stuff and he just ran off so it seems like he doesn't have the drive to just do the blue face route you know and actually stream I think he'd be a great streamer I don't know I don't know if the music is going to really pop for him anymore I think that boat is kind of sell but I think he's definitely an entertaining exactly yeah it just doesn't seem like he has the want for it right yeah just like that's what people uh discount when it comes to streaming is that you need to have uh just a huge amount of drive to keep it going because it inevitably will be a pain in the ass on a technical level as a normal person you get tired throughout the day you want a little downtime you want to chill it's like if you really want to be a streamer that's just not really like stuff that you can if i was actually like reading an article about a woman who does like irl streaming of everything that she does every day she's got the tripod she's got the camera she's got the backpack and she is just literally every moment of the day streaming her life and she's got tts on all day every day so she's just kind of getting five bucks at a time over and over and just the idea of doing that every single day that has to be a mental illness that's like that's to be diagnosed i feel like at a certain point what was that one show they did back in the day and where they watched the guy all the time in his house truman show truman the show yeah that's like that that just seems like overkill but then he's at least she's in on it but then there is a part of me that feels like oh you know i could do that i could be live every minute of every day and somehow those like five dollar donations would just like amp me up like the hit of dopamine every time yeah it just keeps you running i've always wanted to own a corner store and just stream it yeah well not even a stream of it it just feels like I feel like when I see those guys working on the corner store and just making five bucks at a time and being like that just does something to my brain of just like wanting to just make money in extremely small increments over and over and over.

2:00:51It's kind of like your poker thing too. There's some weird similarities to that. Especially the cash only spots so you know they ain't reporting none of that shit. They just getting that. It's going into the old ass register. They pocketed it right at the end of the night. Definitely. All right. So what are we going to do differently for next week's episode. I think we have to work on our topics throughout the week and hopefully watch some stuff. I have a suggestion. Yes. We listen to at least one musical project and watch at least one piece of content that we can discuss. Yeah, like a movie show or whatever it is.

2:01:25Right. What albums are coming out Thursday night? I'm just going to leave it at that. We'll see if they I guess my chat knows me well enough to know that I'm primarily thinking hip-hop you know why I'm here um oh Ken Carson oh I did see that yeah is that a rapper yeah okay I mean it's like from the playboy card he kind of can't yeah historically I have not been a huge fan of his output and I have had a lot of people try to tell me that he is really amazing and then I listen to it and I don't really get it but I'm certainly open to that and then I like Destroy Lonely I think a little more than I'll listen to it Of course.

2:02:04I'll check it out. Maybe I'm conflating with two. Maybe I'm thinking of Destroy Lonely. But either way, like Thames. Have you ever listened to her? I love Thames. Yeah, Thames is dope. I haven't listened to her, but I heard Vlad like ranting and raving about how great this person is. Very good singer. Yeah. I mean, there's a few rumored ones. Like I don't really. Thames is definitely not your vibe. It's very R &B vibe. Sing songy. He said she's like up there with who? Lauryn Hill? Yeah. I was like, ooh. I don't know about all that, but she makes really good music. Stress before you reach. She makes really good music though, for sure.

2:02:34She has done interviews. And she's fine as hell. For me, it's like I have to watch an interview to understand the music, right? Maybe. Maybe I'll watch her on Breakfast Club. If I'm going to listen to her album, I have to watch her. Yeah, I've never watched any of her interviews. And should we watch the Michael Jackson movie? Or is it too late? Would it be too late? Would it be stale next week? I'm very in favor of that. I'm with it. Yeah, yeah. I'm with it. Yeah, we definitely got to see the Michael Jackson movie even though we'll be a little late. All right. And the Nine Vicious album is one that we didn't get around to, but that I think that would be pretty uh interesting yeah I saw that he got like a Illuminati Illuminati tattoo on him and everybody was getting on him he also has a cheetah print tattoo on his shoulder I'm like man there and baby hair slicked down I'm like man these new rappers are just getting zestier and zestier a lot of uh suggestions that uh well I don't know if he's like actually zestier if he's just kind of hamming it up yeah he kind of he like wears weave sometime and shit so I think he's just you know kind of young thuggish a little oozy-ish where they kind of have that side of them, but they still are like thugs and shit, you know?

2:03:37Oh, you know, I forgot the best detail that Vi gave in that whole little thing about Ares. What? Ready? He required a makeup artist to meet him at Vlad for every single interview so that she could make him look presentable. Get the stuff from him because he got the bags under his eyes. But he comes from Matt TV, so he's probably just like, man, I looked the best when I was on there. That's extra. I've done, throughout my life, I've done a handful of different shows where they put makeup on you. And it's always just, you know, a little bit to like, it's always the bags under the eyes. They want you to look run down.

2:04:11Make your skin look like a little bit smoother. And then I see myself on camera and I'm like, oh, fuck. Should I be doing that every day? Yeah, because it'll have you pop. Because they did that with us on Wild It Out. And at first I was like, no, I don't need no makeup. They make you put it on and you see yourself. You're like, I like it. Yeah. Because I mean, like, no, boy, it's just like, Adam, not doing a Monday show. And so you get a fucking makeup artist on here. She tunes us all up. nah but that's the weird thing about it too is that it's like okay on here they can't see that much detail yeah on vlad they are all up in your skin it's 4k and it is right here and he doesn't really like you wearing sunglasses and shit like that and uh yeah for sure like when i go on vlad i'll get mad comments calling me a drug addict and saying that i'm off coke and shit and then And they don't see those comments on here.

2:05:04They don't see it all. Because you can't really see the details in my face. And it's funny that you said the thing about Aries needing a towel because Mikey walked up to me and Dobie when we got here. I was like, do you guys consider yourself keep a towel with you fat? Keep a towel with you fat. And we were both like, maybe at one point. I was. Yeah, a point in our life. 450 though needed it. Yeah, for sure. I couldn't go on stage because when I would go on stage to perform, I would sweat. And that's one thing I can say because I know you said when they said about Aries Spears that they would handle paper towels.

2:05:31if you know when you wipe paper towels on your face sometimes a little resin yeah a little yeah stuff on your face it's like lint and like kind of stuff yeah it looks weird so that might be why he felt that way also kind of weird to blot your face with a towel when you're wearing makeup right like it might take some of the makeup off take it off and it looks like you just slept with a girl with a cake face and shit yeah one thing i can say about this episode though i feel like this was the most cohesive episode that we've had as a collective this felt very that was I liked it. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I got my jitters out now.

2:06:03We had like the first one where we talked about. Uh. Fuck. I can't remember. Basically, there's like two episodes and then the 24 hour. Yeah. We talked about the weight loss challenge, all that stuff. Oh, shit. Weight loss. Are we giving up? Oh, man. You've been eating the bread all weekend. What did you eat this weekend? I'm back at square one, at least. I'm at 256, 257. Yeah. I weighed myself this morning and I was the exact same weight that I was when we started. I think I put on at least three or four from last week. I mean, the 24-hour streams. I mean, it's just there's no way you could stay on a diet.

2:06:36Pizza, wings, tacos. Yeah, one thing I've, like, really noticed and I believe about myself is that I don't really believe that I have it in me to be faced with a bunch of delicious food and to not eat it. There's, like, six boxes of donuts, ten pizzas. It's like, what is this? Okay, I did okay with that because it was just filled. It looks like whatever. yeah no there's like a bunch of donuts out there for the whole 24 hour the pizza is what got me yeah but then i ate like you know a thing of wings and it made me feel like such a fat ass because i'm looking at everybody else and this is before both of you guys got there but like i'm looking at everybody else when they bring out all the wings i'm eating every last wing and i'm not waiting for them to cool down i'm eating it while it's still so hot yes like when the smoke's coming off of them after you buy it and then i eat every single fry in the box and then i eat leftover wings from crit mag and like the other person sitting next to me and it's like i'm looking at some of the other people and it's like even crit mag he's like he eats like three wings right and then maybe 20 minutes later he eats one more wing everybody's about another wing like he's just not like i have this mentality and this is really like what i need to defeat which is that it's like i am going to starve if i don't eat right now no for sure and i can't get that out of my head i'm gonna get really grumpy that's what i'm worried about it's like i need something and then don't let it be good because then you just got to keep going i can use food to justify everything where i look at the food i'm on a podcast and i think that's podcast fuel if i eat all that i'm gonna pod my ass off and i will use that energy to continue on the podcast even though realistically at that moment i had already eaten the required calories yeah that would have kept you going i did not need any more calories and yeah i'm kind of doing something that like requires more energy because we're on a 24-hour stream but it's like right i don't need like a thousand extra calories yeah how many is it you know to justify and then calories add up quick i had they had bagels out there oh yeah hey two of them yeah i ate a bagel yeah i ordered mcdonald's and they just didn't get my order right so i was just like fuck this and I just ate a bagel too.

2:08:44I'm not going to lie. But sometimes I surprise myself. Like, you know, on Sunday after that, I ate a burrito in the morning and then I didn't eat for like eight hours and then my girl made chicken and rice. And so I was like, okay. Back to square one. No, for sure. Probably a good solid amount of calories if I had to guess for me for the day. Right. I just, I don't know. I'm going to eat like pretty good all day. So I was, I got to like seize upon it. But then it's like, I know I'm going to have to go out to eat. like even Friday if I'm gonna go to the movies with my girl we're gonna go out to eat before and I just know that I'm just it's gonna be bad you're not gonna take the picture of the menu and send it to chat gbt and say give me that asking them what it is most healthy maybe that is the thing that I need to swear to myself but then this is the other thing alright like just say say I do that say I get the salmon with the vegetables but like my wife doesn't have the same problems as me so say she orders the pasta this is what happened like the last time I went out to eat she orders the pasta and it's like she eats one spoonful like a large spoonful of the pasta and then i eat like the other six spoonfuls economic principle alone you can't let the food waste i know but but if you really want to like in shape you have to be willing to do that because food is very cheap at least some not at this restaurant probably but like sometimes in general yeah right yeah you have to be willing to like just forego that and that's why the more i think about it the more i'm like oh you know you're probably not going to really be in the kind of shape that you'd like to be unless you go glp1 on them how about this next Monday will be the four week marker, which will be the 33 % weight.

2:10:14Let's lock in this week and let's just all commit to two pounds. I'm with it because I start boxing tomorrow too. I have like a little goal that's going to keep me. I got to be ready, you know, just in case the opportunity. Just in case you ain't there. And I had a guy from a certain podcast named Lucky popping it at me now. Really? What did you say? Why? Because they were just talking about on the Food Community Podcast like compas trying to find a boxing partner they're like oh you know i'm saying a good one moose is a big guy lucky's again then he just ran with the whack narrative after he's seen that clip and he's been popping it crazy posted the clip i think of me as doing something he was talking crazy shit so i'm gonna get my boxing up and you know me and lucky could step in the ring that'd be great i mean i uh did not think about it until this exact moment but i actually left money on the table by forgetting to ask problem the goon about hoodstocks i think he's he's had some kind of contentious uh back and forth yeah yeah problem the goon be definitely having uh i don't know some beefs out there i fuck with problem although that does make me look like kind of cool by not engaging in that yeah yeah exactly not important enough almost certainly i do care less if i had to guess but shout out to droops though man droops be tapping on with me all the time so what that's his like that's his co-host okay and he shows me a lot of love so i fuck with droops heavy you think that if you go to hoodstocks that you will be bludgeoned on behalf of me uh i don't know i would go up there to not definitely not to fight but uh i would go up there and pod with them but i don't think that's on the table right now for sure but maybe we'll work towards that maybe after we get in the ring and uh punch each other we could hug it out and go podcast i think you'll do all right man you ain't a little dude you might slide some yeah maybe we'll see we'll see you'll be all right yeah we pointed out that we're all wearing all black yeah we called each other before we got here yeah coordinated I'm just gonna mash some of these donos real quick I hope I'm not getting cooked yeah I went to the Apollo and they laced me up with a bunch of gear I got a dedicated hat you know what about that collab yeah definitely I talked to a macwap he said he would be down to come back up here one of these days and stuff so but it would be crazy if we did like a combo pod with like them and us and it would be especially crazy if we streamed it on like their Twitch and our YouTube at the same time they stream on Twitch first they stream on YouTube Mac does like certain streams on Twitch but that's usually like the Mac streams when it's Apollo it's always on YouTube live I still have kind of like cold feet to ask Rios to do an episode yeah because people are saying that he was kind of like joking when he was showing you love and actually he still does hate you for real but I don't know Well, for people saying that, I recently followed him and he followed me back.

2:13:01Oh, okay. All is well. I just, I would like to do a podcast with him. But also, I was actually thinking about telling him to pull up during the Crypt Mac and Unk thing. But then I was like, I feel like Rios's energy is not circus energy. Yeah. It's more like our energy on this pod is definitely Rios. You know, he wants to talk about topics, get into stuff. But I mess with Rios. He's definitely one of the most articulate, well-spoken dudes over there, that podcast. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I might say he's like the best podcaster from that. Yeah. Sometimes he would just be super one-sided on the FMW side of things, and I feel like he could be a little more.

2:13:39He's riding with his feet. Yeah, he's super loyal. I could give him that. Yeah, for sure. Okay, I'm going to read these real quick. Dragonite Gerb said, Doughboy, don't let him gaslight you into thinking you were supposed to save him. Y 'all just met. He was popping it, and you told him that you wasn't on that. I never expected that. You did say that when I went back and rewatched. I actually watched Ack watch it, and you did say that. I am not getting involved. For sure. You did make that very clear. And I did say that he should have done something, but at the end of the day, like he said, I got myself into that.

2:14:06He got a relationship with Wack, you know what I'm saying? It's before my relationship with Doe, so I get it. And Ali said, how does Doe Boy talk tough when he got marked out by a guy 200 pounds less than him, 607 on, kept calling you a bitch? I didn't like it. He didn't like it. JP said Anthony should be the last one talking he got marked out multiple times by Unks he got called a sitch all in his feelings Spody whooping Anthony ass put some money on it JP wow insane Dragonite Crip said which by the way shout out to him for restraining himself to one donation on the stream that must have been hard for him Adam I guess I have to glaze you since you gave me an official warning Josh already sent me the email we all know you birthed Figmunity World I remember Nojember always posting their channels you gave them their fan base.

2:14:51I see no lies here. Zilla the Prophet said, I will catch a hat for Astrid. Very fair. Blue hearts. Listen, I'm down to do whatever I got to do to get my ass licked. That's it. Keiston said, we got to stop acting like T-Rail ain't got one of the top pods out. Well, from my perspective, him and Flakos Pod doing about 10 ,000 per week. And back on fake. You're being generous. To his credit, be about 2x that. Yeah. So I guess that is like, In terms of West Coast pods, they're definitely still up there. Yeah, for retarded people, he's doing pretty good. He can't outperform the news, but you got a little something going on.

2:15:28Okay, NotGuiltyTV said, I feel Doughboy is biased due to his and Wax's relationship with Nick Cannon. Unfair cisness. No. That's what I thought too. Damn, no. Don Julio said, Adam, put me on. I just want to be in the back running the cameras LMAO. He wants to be an Edgar. I'm going to tell the Edgars that this spot is in jeopardy. You got to get the Edgar put on. Oh, I like this one right here. Okay. Humble said Adam and Moose, man, were wrong. You can't tell anyone how to react to what they see as disrespect. Yeah, you definitely can. So that is definitely incorrect right there. Moose, you definitely turned it down.

2:16:03Absolutely. Adam had you backed into a corner to protect you like AD had Flacco when he was spit on. This is not a corner. This is exactly where we're standing. It's not a corner. Moose, man, could have darted to the right. He could have darted to the left, done a little spin move over the table. A little pew. Would it have worked out for him? I don't really know. But there was definitely a way out. He wasn't back in Jordan. I would have got tackled by creep and taken down. He might be in a metaphorical corner. No, for sure. I can see that. Am I the first person to say you look like Pedro Pascal?

2:16:34Yeah, I think so. And then everybody agreed when I posted that on my story, for sure. You get a little bit of similar energy. I've been getting hit with Pedro. He's a homosexual, but. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, you didn't? Well, he's one of those dudes who's never admitted to being gay. but he like is he the one that's like oh i'm anxious let me touch your boobs is that okay that's fire yeah my kind of fag um dragonite gerb said not every man is a politician like adam and moose 90 of grown men from urban places would react the way whack did i hate whack but be a man moves damn if what you're saying is true and 90 of grown men from urban places would react that way then that is an indictment of 90 of grown men from urban places not the person who actually behaved rationally in that situation if you ask me.

2:17:17Filmed by Fredo said, did Wack at any point make it clear that he did not want to pod with Moose beforehand? If he did and you still invited Moose, then it's on U22 B team. Okay, you got me there. Keiston said, Moose and Doughboy both introduced themselves to the world as tough guys. Now they both look crazy. I definitely don't remember that from Doughboy. The Monday show was the tough guy show. We're not on that at all. We stripped down naked. that was us asserting our dominance. You know what I thought in the whole Aries Spears thing, man? It's totally impossible, but imagine if we did the It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia thing and we don't know Danny DeVito, but we got Aries Spears to join this podcast.

2:18:00That would be crazy. That'd be hard. Aries is hilarious. I cannot pay him$4 ,000. Yeah, you would ask that per episode. Give me the 4K, man. I wish. You're making a million a month. Per Monday. me and donate me and doughboy will donate our salaries to get aries spears as a every single person watching this becomes a member maybe we could swing it but let's go it's gonna be tough uh rich young and said adam is wrong a nice nice formulated argument there skinned christ said dough take accountability i don't break up fights you was antagonizing the situation find brian pumper i was i didn't antagonize shit as soon as soon as moose walked in i said oh shit i don't know what's going to happen and i don't really understand how the last sentence here fine Brian Pumper relates to the rest of it I love all the thoughts being brought into one donation yeah me too it was very very crit mac uh K blow and said I fuck with moose but you called that man short and fat and said y 'all can catch a fade at at this point you better be ready for whatever comes with that no matter how he reacts when he used that logic on me I was like you are short and fat I was just shooting some jokes man I wasn't trying to kill whack yeah He's like 5 '7", I think.

2:19:05You were calling him 5 '4", so that's kind of hurtful. Humble said, Adam sees Nojumper as a corporation, and that's definitely not how it's seen from the people he works with or the outside viewer. I would disagree. I think that the people who come here for the most part, outside of WAC, view it as a business. And for most people who watch it, I would say that this is 99 % of the time it's pretty much just a regular podcast. And then every once in a while we have a near brawl. WAC can be responsible but there was no conversation beforehand Adam you don't have politicians that is that is also true C Hustle said Doughboy you got boxing footage on YouTube did you keep training I think you're trying to fool people like you can't throw hands yeah I do but I was boxing with my little brother Teddy Ray it was just playing yeah that YouTube video is out there it's out there and Dual Persona and Patrick Merriman became members shout out to them Thank you guys.

2:20:00And then, oh shit. Damn. I just reloaded. It was right there, that ATL Nola. ATL Nola said, Adam and Moose ran a trash play and it failed. Take accountability. Don't compare Doe telling Spody not to eat to you trying to get whacked, fired, and fight. Definitely did not want to get it. I was saying that Doe boy fighting Spody was like, you know, whacked. We got no fight. We're past that. We're in the future now. Pimp boy said, Moose man. I'm trying to see that caboose man. They've been saying me and Doe got ass the whole pod in the chat. Whoa, they said we had ass? They said we're carrying ass, I think was the exact quote.

2:20:35That's funny. Carmine said, Doe, Doe's bias takes drown out the convo. Can't even be open-minded. First, he always agreed with Adam. Now, no matter what Wax says or does he got the same take, cringe. Hashtag hard to watch. Hashtag yes, man. Hashtag pick me. That is ridiculous. Hashtag try too hard. I sat there and had one of you about the Wax situation at the beginning. And by the end of the conversation, I said, I see your point. blah blah blah blah what are you talking about carmine carmine um j supreme said moose what are your thoughts on creep this point moving forward he's no good in my opinion i'm cool with creep i mean i'm sure i don't really have the most fond uh opinion of me he posted like a video on his story after i think it was directed at me saying stay out the streets but i mean i'm not a street guy so i'm not sure but shout out to creep he's always been cool to me and he's been wax like right hand man for nine years so of course he's gonna have a little tea to wax yeah Creeps doing what he got to do.

2:21:27Yeah, Creeps seems like a good dupe. 213 Cuz said, Wack played y 'all mind games with you, Moose. Oh, YA. Oh, YA mind games. Yeah. Wack played YA mind games with you, Moose. Made you look like a super buster because he knew other Mexicans would see and have everybody turn on you. Single-handedly made you leva status. Confidence gone. What does leva mean? Like being a hoe. I would disagree with that, though, because the things that they're calling you a ho for are kind of things that you did which are not really like things that whack could have called and it's just like anybody that's like you know disowning me or you know disavowing me is like nobody i give a fuck about yeah who cares he is not in a position where he's trying to like convince everybody he's a super gangster yeah i'm not mike tyson same thing with me like you know if you wanted to say i'm a pussy or that i'll call the cops or whatever that's fine yeah that's fine i really will it's like call me a rat I'm not tripping.

2:22:21Yeah. Okay. And then, okay. Phillip said, Moose blames being a civilian on not catching the fade. But Doughboy trying to fade with Spodey Face. So Moose doesn't have an excuse. And Doughboy, take that mask off. You know that's really Brandon over there. You remember Brandon? Yeah. I know, but I actually met Brandon. Brandon's cool. Shout out to Brandon. I'm looking at the thumbnail. Like, what is this like? Can you show the screen? What is this like orange and yellow right here? It's just the background in between our pictures. picture makes me look fat. What is the... No, it's like a background of the thumbnail with our...

2:22:57It's under the picture. Oh. Under the picture. Oh, because it's in between all of them. Yeah. That looks kind of weird. Maybe we should make that a little bit... Okay, that was fun. Yeah, they do got Doughboy looking crazy. Yeah, that's making me look a little bit more Svelte in these pictures. Svelte? That's what you said? Svelte? Svelte? Every time I read that, I wonder how you said it. I had no idea how you say that. Alright, I gotta clock in for another late night interview momentarily. It was great talking to you guys. Maybe Friday. Maybe we can all do a little team date. I was going to say that.

2:23:31We can go watch the movie together. You can bring your girlfriend. You can bring Astrid maybe. Don't get yourself in trouble, little boy. You got your baby wipe real good. I'll help you if you need help, bro. I'll bring it. If Astrid's down, let's do it. If Astrid's down to eat his ass in the movie bathroom tap in you know imagine me introducing astrid just being like this girl loves eating ass you could learn so much from her like that's very nice my wife has really hit the point where i feel like she might never eat my ass again oh that's sad to say so you get the ass pass then it feels like she was open to it in the early days and then as time has gone by she's an old wrinkly ass no you know what actually happened is that she got pregnant and you know how like sometimes people who get pregnant get really weird about like smells and tastes your buttholes a lot of smells and tastes in that ass yeah yeah no for sure there's so much going on there so many flavors it's a disaster no but she like i think that kind of like pushed her into like it's not just that like even in the porn stuff like with the spit and like even just like nutting all in her mouth and shit like i just i noticed how like her taste buds just got like massively amplified.

2:24:46I could explain it. Like, she'll leave my nut on camera, which I know people are going to point out, like, other guys not on her face or whatever. But, like, yeah, it's like, I noticed. If she has the choice, she's going to prefer not to. She doesn't like it in the way she used to. Let me ask you this, Adam, because this is probably going to happen for me before the end of the year. Sure. So, if I do get my ass ate, what's the non-gay way to do it? Like, do I stand up? Do I sit down? Do I hold legs? In my mind right now, she's on her knees. She's giving you head. and then as it's continuing on you scoot down more and more to the point where maybe your leg goes up and maybe you hold the legs that's not gay that's not gay she's gotta hold the legs i think i don't know i got some big thighs for sure that was my entry into it my entry into it was not me bent over that's not that's good that's what i imagined that is weird i feel like up in because Because even when like the first time I ate a girl's ass, it was very like you're eating the pussy and then you start dipping down by bed.

2:25:47And that's like the natural way to get into it. Okay, so just stay down and then scooch up. Stay down till you come up. Boom. Remember that chat. That's game for all y 'all. Oh, God. You said we never did nothing for y 'all. Tell a friend to tell a friend that this is a good podcast that you should watch. And make sure you smash the like button. Shout out to Moose. Shout out to Doughboy. They got content. Go watch Moose Talks with Ricky for three hours about the weather. Riveting. And Doughboy's not gay. And Doughboy is 100 % not gay. You saw how he didn't know how to get his ass eaten. I didn't even know.

2:26:21Josh texted me during the spot and asked Doughboy how it goes to be the gay spot. Oh. Josh is so happy. Josh is so happy because you did a poll and Doughboy got voted gayer than he was. No. Which is unthinkable. No, let me tell you what this motherfucker did. Yeah. This everyone's only going to do 1 ,000 votes, right? Like, when it got to 1 ,000, he was at 31%. I was at 30%. He was like, no, we should keep letting this go. He waited until I got to 31%, and then he stopped it. I said, you summa. But you know that's part of some of the mind games that were going on at the time that all those guys left the pod in 2023 is because, like, I remember we did a poll one time, like, what do you like better than No Jumper Shore at the end of the day?

2:27:00And it was like, I think at that time, the No Jumper Shore was doing, like, significantly more views. but obviously like the chat wants to trigger people you know whoever cares more they're going to side against you i seem like the one who would get triggered and i knew this at the time and i just like very much did not say shit and just didn't really like acknowledge that i was annoyed or anything yeah but like that that was like definitely part of it was like we have the most popular show on the podcast no the fucking fans tricked you to thinking that you had the most on the podcast yo get a membership y 'all go crazy yo but that was part of what aries spears was telling Vlad is he sent him a screenshot of a bunch of a bunch of comments and that's fire look at all these comments saying that they only watch Vlad because of me like it wasn't the top comment because if it was he might have a case that was wild damn all right appreciate it all