NJ Show Ep. 376: Charlie Kirk Shot & Killed, Killer Still At Large

22:33They should have been on whatever he was on. He's calling Viral Way a Jakey promoter. Lush, shut the hell up. He called him a Jakey promoter. Let me say this last part, because this is the icing on the cake. Tay, you're going to be mad at me for saying this. The nigga started acting like he was trying to get chippy and fight on some street shit, right? Nigga tried to put his finger in my face, and I pushed his finger out of my face. Gives your fucking finger out of my face. Viral lies and says, I got mushed in the face. Then tries to walk it back. Oh, you didn't get mushed. He put his finger in your face.

23:03Then I told the nigga If you try to be on some street shit Nigga I smoke you straight up Oh shit Vidal took that video And put that shit on the internet Who does that? I got nothing to say about that What nigga homie do that? Listen I know a homie Tay you a homie my nigga You a real nigga Listen bro I'm gonna keep it a buck with you When the nigga did When that shit went down I just said look I ain't got no animosity Towards the niggas Cause I never said nothing bad Mind you Tay Who were the niggas who jumped up First they were supposed to go on pun shit, and I posted on Instagram, watch Viral Way get on, back on fig and slander.

23:37You did say that. Did I not? You said that. Wait, then it fell through, so instead of slandering me on back on fig, knowing I'm into with them niggas, he comes to no jumper and then slanders me. What part of being a homie is that? Did Viral Way have a relationship with them too? Like, those are homies? No, no, no. Listen, I ain't gonna hold you. I think the Viral Way was just looking at it like, alright, bitch, y 'all here just thought... Fuck what you think, Tay. This is just straight homie shit. I know. I think they just like, all right, since y 'all here, just squabble it down. But it's a professional fighter.

24:05That's street shit. That's why I respect Brandon. A nigga did not tell me. But I respect Bo Park. No, I get it too. But Brandon, did you know they were filming? Did you know he was filming at that time? If a nigga came to me on some like, my nigga, fuck you, fuck where you from, nigga, we on some hood shit. The phone call would have been totally different. I would have called the homies. And nigga talked, first of all, the nigga would have to come find me where I'm at. Second of all, I would have been like, my group, I'm coming with at least 20 people. On top of that, you gotta look at it like this too.

24:34Bro, like, viral way is kind of like, bro, I don't know this dude and you don't know this dude. I'm putting 100 % trust into you to make sure that this shit go the way that you say it's supposed to go because you're the one in direct contact with these folks. So when he got there and it wasn't what dude said it was, it was really viral way responsibility to call the fight off. It shouldn't even have been even less. Not say, not say, not say, That's why I said the biggest mistake was him even going. No, listen. I've been saying that. No, no, but listen. I said that several times. I will accept that, but what I'm telling you is when we ride, like, with my homies, right, if I'm rolling with my homeboys, we 100 % on our side.

25:18Of course. Wrong or right. Wrong or right. Ain't no room to try to figure out what a nigga, or let's change the circumstances, whatever. All I'm saying is this. I got no hard feelings against him. That's why I've never slandered Viral Way. I never went on no jumper to go back at them over what they said to me. If I got an issue with Viral Way, I'm going to call Viral and say what I got to say. Did you know he was filming? Yeah, when he came up, he was filming at that point. So did you tell him, hey, don't put this out? But no, but listen. Don't put this out. Listen, man, you shouldn't even, what's understood don't need to be explained.

25:50And then when I say I'm going to smoke you, I'm willing to do that in all of our best interests. because if a nigga getting chippy and I think the dude was high, you don't know who he could. The bro called, he did a little call like, hey, something, something. For real? Bro, y 'all didn't see that shit on the video? I know you saw that. But then I got to ask you too, though. It was your expectation of viral weight to only post you in a positive light. Let's say you would have lost the fade. You feel me? If he would have posted that you lost, would you have felt some type of way? No, I took the fade.

26:24At the end of the day, he's still a content creator. So, you know what I mean? He can get all the content he wants. He could have came to the second one that we set up. But what I'm saying is when we come into, like Floyd, ain't nobody coming with Floyd Mayweather. If they show up and a nigga got eight-ounce gloves and he's supposed to have 16-ounce gloves, ain't nobody going to be like, well, y 'all can still get in there and go fight. No, they're going to be like, nigga, nah. This is not what you said it was supposed to be. So let's reschedule it. And even viral said, I ain't fighting in there.

26:56And then he did say y 'all could go somewhere else, which I said, that's fine. And I did end up setting it up, but just on the whole, like, like the plausible deniability shit, where a nigga asked you a straight up and down question as a man. Like if you ask me some shit, lush, we've talked on the phone and stuff. We can joke around here, but when we personally talking, you talking as a man, my nigga, if I say, is this what we agreed to? Don't say, I don't know because you're a very intelligent nigga. You know, this ain't what we agreed to. At that point, I feel like you're trying to, like, play me.

27:26You're trying to, like, be strict. Oh, he said, I don't know. Man, that nigga was, I don't know. And y 'all can still, like, you act like a female. You act like a female. You just want to see some bullshit. You're not, like, protecting my interests. And if I do lose, I'm already taking a risk because I can get over there and get knocked out. But also mechanically, be like, wouldn't it be to your advantage of fighting a small confined space? No, it's not my advantage if niggas got glass cases all on one. Yeah, bro had washing machines, refrigerators, arcades. Which could potentially be utilized in a fight if we're being honest.

27:56You could throw them against it. But that's not what it's about. You could just trip and fall. You saw the movie Million Dollar Man. They got a gym mat on the floor. No, yeah. The gym mat was like an inch thick. I'll just break somebody's neck on that. But at first, bro was talking about fighting on the concrete. He didn't even want to put the mats down. He was like, the mats ain't stable. They're not pinned down. I said, okay, then. This is not what you told him. We could just get it in on the concrete. That's crackhead shit. That's like I've been getting high and I feel like I'm like charged up.

28:23I'm not on that, bro. I got to work the next day. I got a family that depends on me. You're not going to pay my medical bills if I split my fucking kneecap like my friend did doing the same dumb shit. So I have a lot of experiences that have an impact on what I do. Well, shit, we're broke with broke. Like you said, thinking he was just clout chasing off the whole situation. Maybe that was his motive to begin with. What you saying that y 'all come from the same space Like, you know, if you tell another fighter, like, I got this set up, and then you get there and it's different, it wasn't going to happen.

28:55Maybe he knew, like, I'm going to set it up to where we ain't going to be able to get down anyway, but I can get the crowd off of it. You know what I'm saying? That's why now that Brandon set it up. Wait, so did you ask him to put the mats down? No, I said, you don't have any mats. And when he was on video, he said, oh, you want mats? Then he threw the mats down. He said, what are you talking about? There's five guys named Matt next door. He knew it wasn't going to shoot. It was all cloud chase, bro. Mateo. Wait, you told him for the... No, that trash crap. Look, bro, the bad thing is, bro says he trains MMA fighters.

29:31So when you say that, in my mind, I'm thinking bro probably got the keys to several gyms. Why bring me there to waste my time? And what I know he knows is, if you know about martial artists, especially jujitsu people and stuff like that, he knew bro ain't gonna fight in this shit this shit is not this is unsaid so he knew I wasn't gonna fight and so then based on the way the internet think oh you got marked out because you don't want to fight in unsaid circumstances it's really crazy to me because most of these people ain't gonna fight period you start talking about fights I'm gonna get a switch that's why you should have never gone to the beginning you let me learn but he said I expected more from a person of his caliber But it's a thin line between professional fighting and street fighting.

30:17For sure. I mean, it's not a thick line. It's not blurry. So that's what it was. But, I mean, come on, guys. We got an elephant in the room. Something big happened yesterday. Oh, yeah. Let's get to it. Yeah, sure. So yesterday, Charlie Kirk was assassinated. He was doing a speech at, I think it was a Utah college. Yeah, Utah. How do y 'all feel about that? Man. What's up, Brandon? How you feel about it? Come on. Come on, Brandon. Matter of fact, we get to Brandon last. Because, Les, you were talking a lot on Facebook. How you feel about Charlie Kirk?

30:46I have a very dark sense of humor. So, Hey, wait, wait, before you go into that, Hey, first let's give our condolences and our love to Charlie Kirk's family, his wife, his two kids, all those people, whatever is said here, please do not take this as the sentiment of no jumper as a company. This is each individual person's opinion, but we do beyond everything, send you our blessings and wish you are, love in this hard time. I'm definitely not a fan of political assassinations of any variety in any capacity. If you've seen people both on the right, left, front, back, side to side denounce that. I mean, the Zionists just lost their biggest soldier.

31:30What are you talking about? Well, he wasn't a soldier at the last part of his No, he fell out with him in the end. Oh, did he? Yeah, so that's why my eye go. How did you feel about it? Okay, because I thought he was like a Mossad agent, essentially. He went against him. When? He was recently getting cheated. He was super pro-Israel. The last two or three months, he started having to change on his opinion with him. Really? I'll be honest. I'll tell you what's going on, but how do you feel? How do I feel about it? Obviously, it's a tragedy. Especially, like I said, it's a political assassination.

32:07However, I looked at it like this. first of all I'm in the battle rap community I gotta time stamp these bars because everybody gonna have some shit to say so I had to be the first person I and I was watching like as it happened like within minutes of it so I had to be the first on Twitter with a you feel me shot in the throat you feel me like what you said on Facebook Charlie Kirk and verbatim you said no headshot busted in her throat like Charlie Kirk you feel me like yes you don't think that's a bit too soon i think it's a fire ass bar but do you think that was too soon because you know his kids was in attendance when that happened well i mean like yeah that's like obviously i don't want his children to have to endure any suffering or anything like that like but as far as bars go fire bars cool bar also and the way i was looking at it is like we're on no jumper this is a extension of hip-hop culture hip-hop culture has been run rampant by drill music for a long time which encompasses what?

33:05People celebrating the death of black teenagers, satirizing it, making dances from it, you feel me, about the way that they're dying, naming fucking strains of weed after dead people and all kinds of disrespect. Nothing's out the window. Sending memes to parents of deceased, there's no limit to the disrespect. Digging up graves like drill music encompasses all that, right? And we laugh about it and we talk about it. I'm not saying the people of this channel... Does that make that okay? no it doesn't like do you think personally no it doesn't for them no it doesn't but you know what else is that's not any less okay or more okay than oh the the guy that i saw on youtube always saying some racist out-of-pocket shit go wound up getting shot in his neck for talking out the side of it you feel me like nice try goldberg this is not the same thing though because charlie kirk doesn't talk about violence he doesn't advocate for violence charlie kirk is someone who is a is a is a godly god-fearing individual he promotes family charlie kirk is someone who in my opinion he reflects the better side of america where he's like look we have a disagreement of we have a disagreement we have a difference of opinion i'm gonna come to where you are i'm gonna meet you where you're at i'm gonna give you a microphone and a platform that otherwise you would never have knowing whatever what you have to say.

34:28I'm going to give you my pedestal, and you can express whatever sentiment you have about what I believe, and I'm going to correct you with a smile and basically try to reach the olive branch out to you. Bro, it's all positivity. Hip-hop is negative in nature. So for him to die tragically like that, it doesn't speak to him or what he represented. it speaks to a radicalized element that exists within our country that really needs to be dealt with facts 100 i i do i do agree with that however um we gotta let creep talk let's shut the fuck up you talk all week no no no no go ahead creep man look this might be like vans off the wall but i feel like they put that boy ass on the floor and it is what it is you know i'm saying like at the end of the day look that's the reason why i feel like that bro because he wasn't always just keeping shit respectfully bro you don't see y 'all never seen the clip when he got into it with the chinese dude and he blew his his top and got up and started calling chinese dude all type of chinks and shit like that yeah bro it's a clip of that him calling the chinese dude chinks dude said that uh he said that um civil rights should have never happened so what do that mean for our people in the 1940s it was bad it was evil but what happened something changed they committed less crimes.

35:51Maybe they were afraid. I mean, 4 ,000 black men, women, and children were killed in violent lynch moths. That's your explanation. Racial terror permeated American culture for hundreds of years. Black America is worse than it has been in the last 80 years. You don't think that that affected the generational psyche of an entire group of people? Black America is the worst it's been since the 1940s according to this. It's worse than the 1940s. Hold on, hold on. He's not lying. Now, let's think about this. Back in the 1940s, right, it was segregation and racism, right? That pretty much pressured black people to be with each other, to be cool.

36:27We were funded. We had black fathers. We were good with our neighbors. If I see a black man, hey, brother, what's up, brother? In hindsight, and today, when I see a black person that's dressed like me, I feel like he's a threat. He's a threat. And so back in the days, it was more of a family thing. Nowadays, without segregation, without racism, we're against each other. Like, it's more segregation and racism within our community. I hate to say this, Tay. Without segregation, you don't exist. You feel me? That's a fact. Like, you are literally the result of racist mixing. You feel me? If segregation was still a thing, there would be no, Tay.

37:01You mean without desegregation? But listen. Correct. Yeah, but listen. But that's not the argument. That's not true. Hold on, but that's not the argument. The argument is, were black people better in the 40th than today? Right, right. But just to put it in perspective, yes. Because. No, no, no. I was going back to the civil rights thing. Yeah, yeah. The whole. Go ahead. Go ahead. Just the fact that like that black people at that time didn't even have access to basic human rights like voting. You feel me? Brandon couldn't be popping it like the way he was a vote in 1940. Civil rights. He said civil rights movement should have never happened.

37:37No, I don't agree with that. I don't agree with everything. Civil rights movement should have never happened. I agree with 100 % that civil rights destroyed black America. And for the very reasons that Tay was given back before civil rights, before Martin Luther King convinced black people that the epitome of their existence was to gain the acceptance of whites. Black people were self-reliant in 1940. Black people had an economy that per capita rivaled the white economy. One in three black people owned a home. One in three, uh, shit, one in shit. 85 % of black children had a two-parent household.

38:11So what I'm saying is you could say civil rights came to help us, but from the moment we accepted the idea of civil rights, our community disintegrated. Even when you think about redlining and stuff, oh, what about redlining? All these little intellectual... What year is that set based on, though? Hold on, because that's very misleading. I said 1940. My grandfather came to Long Beach in 1943 compared to when though when you said the 85 % compared to now compared to now correct so you don't think that there is any like what are you talking about Iran-Contra, Ronald Reagan 1980s, what are you talking crack cocaine, that has a lot to do with everything, that's a motherfucking psyop, just like Charlie Cook getting smoked it was clearly done by probably a conservative fucking operation listen, civil rights is what ushered in and made the crack epidemic possible because when you had insulated black communities, black people had control over what came in and out of their community.

39:13When I've been talking about separatism, I've been saying this for months, guys. Here it is. Listen, no, this is not preaching separatism. Yes, it is. No, this is preaching autonomy and self-reliance. You can't say separatism when there's a fucking Chinatown 10 miles away from here with all Chinese. How could you have self-reliance when you're not been allowed to fucking go and drink the same water fountains or go to the same business establishments. How is that possible? You're not even allowed to own businesses, own property in certain areas. How the fuck is that progress? That is the craziest thing I've ever heard.

39:45People trying to act like the civil rights movement wasn't amazing. It was horrible. Listen. I want you to listen instead of trying to get a viral moment. Capitalism corrects all that. That stuff wasn't fixed by civil rights. That was fixed by capitalism. Go watch the film. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You see what happened to Black Walls? Let me finish. Let me finish, Lindenburg. Look, if you go watch the film How to Sell to the Negro, Secretary of the Treasury made this film, 1957. He told whites there is an untapped market that white entrepreneurs are not, have not identified and targeted.

40:30The Negro capitalism would have made it to where they would have been forced to say, you know what? I got to sell to these black folks because they have money. That is why when you look at these other groups who came into America at the post civil rights, you never had an issue with them because they understood if I got the money, they got the honey. So if I bring the dollars, they're going to integrate with me themselves because they want my money. Sounds good, but you know better than that because you know how fucking repression works. You think motherfuckers would have had a chance? Are you fucking crazy?

41:04Did you just disagree with everything he said? No, but I do disagree with the 1940s situation. Yes. But that's all facts. No, no, no. As far as the statistics, no. Let's give you these facts. I'm not taking objection to any of the statistics. So you're telling me when he said that and he was talking about black families having fathers in their lives. I never said that. I never said that. You disagree with that? You said one of these based on that. So he is speaking truth. Now I'm asking, so he is speaking truth on the 1940s situation. Based on that, I guess if that's the fact, I would consider that.

41:37Come on, don't reconsider. But I never said different. I never said different. I said a lot of things have happened. It's difficult to properly equate that because it's so many. And they used to offend people on so many levels. Like when they got to talking about the abortion situation, this dude told the person that he was talking to that abortions is worse than the Holocaust. It is. The numbers are like dwarfing the Holocaust. Six million Jews were killed. The fashion in which these people were killed is worse than medically removing something that has no feeling. Big game. That's not true. How is that not true?

42:12Let me give you some facts. With the Holocaust, who it was written by, is the people it happened to. The numbers are inflating. No, don't say that. What I'm going to say is this. 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. 60 million black kids have been aborted since the 1960s. The numbers don't even compare, bro. I'm not talking about the numbers. I'm talking about for him to say that the Holocaust is worse than abortion. No, he said abortion is worse than the Holocaust. That's a powerful statement from a white man. Bro, the fashion in which these people were killed, gang, thrown in incinerators, shot, shit like that, that's worse than somebody medically removing a child that's not that.

42:56Have you seen how they do abortions, bro? But this is the thing. We talking about something that has no feeling. You can't feel pain. This fetus don't feel pain. We're not babies that are aborted, so we don't know what that pain feel like. No, they do feel pain because they have a heartbeat. They have skin. They have all that. Some of those babies come out and they're screaming. and they're still alive. There are far more abortions than the Holocaust, but let's also take into account that the Holocaust was a five-year period. Here's the issue. The Holocaust don't affect you and me. That's the whole thing.

43:31So Charlie Kirk, here's the thing. The Holocaust happened in Germany. Those weren't Americans. Charlie Kirk is an American focused on what's hurting Americans. We are Americans. So it's ignorant for an American to act like they care more about something happening in Germany than something that is a Holocaust in our own soil that's destroying our community. community. Do you realize that we are only 14? We built this country, and we are only 14 % of the population in this country. Why? Because we've eliminated, we've exterminated the vast majority of the kids that would have had families that one kid accounted for 20, 30 people, 10 generations.

44:10There is been a very targeted campaign towards the black community when it comes to abortion. That is undeniable. I'm with you on that 100 ,000 % Is it janky? Yes Since we're playing chat GPT games I didn't look up chat GPT at all I just wanted to verify some shit So let's verify this Prior to the civil rights movement We're talking about the mid 50s through the 60s Black people Here's certain civil liberties that Y 'all did not have Number one, like I said Voting rights Most motherfuckers couldn't even vote But if you wanted to Most ain't all. All had to request people to pay a fee to vote. You had the right to vote.

44:52You had to pay a fee, undergo a literacy test, and there was no grandfather clause. They need to bring that back. The grandfather clause. Oh, yeah. That fair enough? They need to bring that back. That's fair game. And that go back into the segregation shit, though. Universally, not just for them, though. Grandfather clauses. Intimidation and violence. Groups like the Ku Klux Klan allowed to operate with impunity. any time there'd be communities that would gain fiscal independence, they would get shut down and burnt, like what happened to Black Wall Street, Tulsa. Y 'all fucking know history, you feel me?

45:24On top of that, freedom of movement and public access, Jim Crow laws, segregation, people weren't even allowed to go to the best institutions. You want to make your own schools? Historic black colleges? That's awesome. I'm here, I support it fully, but do you want to have the option to go to the fucking white kid's school suit? You don't have it back then. How fucked up is that? You know why? Life is better pre-fucking civil rights. And do you know why that was the case? Are you fucking crazy? Do you know why that's the case? Because the Democrat Party that you support started the KKK. Fuck the Democrats.

45:53They did. They ushered in the way. Fuck the Democrats. Wait a minute. They started KKK. They were the progenitors of segregation. Every racist thing you named was occurring in the South and was a product of the Dixiecrats that later became the Democrats. So now you're saying, Brandon, In the future, the guys who actually fought against this, the abolitionists who are the Republicans, a party created by black people, these guys are now bad. But the guys who started, who perpetuated all this racist crap, they're now good. You just killed your own argument, Lush. No, no, no. What I said is that black people, life has been better since the civil rights movement.

46:33There's been progress and opportunities. And then for y 'all to say It was better for segregation Because we had more control over our Communities and shit That's not necessarily true But that's not necessarily true Because post-civil rights Like before civil rights If we didn't have the motherfucking right to vote They still had control over Who was governing and mayor in our city So they still was telling us Who and what we couldn't do In our own god damn community They didn't have the right to vote. But what I meant by that, we was better before segregation is because as a family, you had a father in your life, a black father.

47:10In hindsight today, it's not a lot of families who has a father and a mom, a two-parent household. Look, during segregation, a black person could live a black experience anywhere in the country. Like, if you go out to L.A. They would have a pretty different one in the big cities than they would in rural Alabama. If I go to L.A. right now, I could go, an Asian person could wake up and go like this, and go out and do business with none but Asians. He can get his car fixed by Asian, go to an Asian dry cleaner, go to an Asian grocery store, all this stuff, and get every single thing he needs to live.

47:39A black person can't do that in L.A. A black person can't even do that in Denver or can't even do that damn near in New York. Why? Because segregation allowed for big money capitalists to infiltrate black communities and it encouraged black people to leave their community. You said a black person can't do what out here? Wait, listen. I didn't think that was true when you said it. Look, look, it encouraged black people to leave their community and go do business with white owned businesses. And so what was the direct result? Black businesses shut down. But again, we did it. Like you said, Tulsa and all that type of shit.

48:15Black Wall Street. We did it. But that's what I'm saying. It was done. And they came through and did what they did. Right. Black Wall Street is still there. Black people don't even shop at it. Right. Because because of it was shut the fuck down. It was built back two years later. Yeah, but that was enough of a... You know the history, dog. I don't got to tell you this shit. Black Wall Street was built back. Black people went back to patronizing those. They didn't have the same affluence. Listen, man. They didn't have the same... It did. What happened was, after desegregation, black people start doing this thing where they thought white ice was colder.

48:48I want to go eat at the white people restaurant. I want to go shop at the white. Same thing they just do now. Black people don't buy black brands now. They want to buy Louis. They want to buy Gucci. Why? Because civil rights created an environment where black people started to think that things were better just because white people were creating them. Before that, black people didn't have that mindset. So you feel like it would be better if we were separated? Because that way, there'd be able to be more of a monolithic control, and you guys would be able to govern yourselves better. All races, but you stick to ourselves, would that be better?

49:20No. But this conversation started where you had set a bar about Charlie Kirk's. Do you feel like that bar was too slow? Like I said, I had to time stamp it. Would you have said, oh, he got shot six times and he Nipsey? No, I wouldn't have. But why? So are you against everything that Charlie Kirk said or is it that? No, I'm not against everything Charlie Kirk. I have respect for Nipsey. Charlie Kirk was the racist guy that I saw. That's how I took him. But you also said that goes against what you said. How does it go against what I said? Because you also said that you would be with something I said.

49:56Who killed more black people? Well, Nipsey Hussle or Charlie Kirk? I believe probably neither of them killed anyone. Well, let's say, who promoted the death and murder of black people more? Nipsey or Charlie Kirk? Nipsey did. Charlie Kirk's trying to take away our civil rights, guys. You're talking trash about him. You support Nipsey because you're pandering, bro. I'm mad enough to say this. I just think he's a dope rapper, bro. I would take, listen, I would take 100 Charlie Kirk over 100 Nipsey Hussles. You went to the Marathon Burger opening talking about I'm pandering. For the simple fact of this, Charlie Kirk, the things he promoted, in my opinion, was the direction someone like Nipsey Hussle eventually was going to end up at.

50:36So Charlie Kirk was already talking about family, this, that, and the third. I'm a person who's like, I hear what Charlie Kirk is saying. I'm like, that is the way to prosperity. I see Nipsey Hussle. I love what he's doing, but Nipsey was a work in progress. I'm not going to say Charlie Kirk was a racist because Charlie Kirk didn't promote racism. Charlie Kirk promoted religion And he promoted open dialogue You can say he didn't like black people I fuck with those ideologies Hypocrisy and the fucking church aside Let's not fucking lie I'm a Christian Do you think Charlie Kirk was a racist Or just a real American Like I'm asking you a serious question I think that he promoted a lot of racist ideologies Like what?

51:21Like for example the conversation we just had That is one. He also said. But that wasn't racist. That was him being American and saying this is good for the black community. Okay. What about him saying black women? He said black women are incapable of making decisions for themselves. It was something. I don't want to. He didn't say that. Let me get the exact quote. We got to get the verbatim. Let me get the verbatim. But he wouldn't be far off if he said it. Let me get the exact quote. It was something. He wouldn't be far off. I just go laughing in the back. Got me trying. I didn't hear. I never heard that though.

51:49But we got to hear his words verbatim. He didn't hear from him. He had facts behind his statement. Every time I've seen Charlie Kirk get into like an altercation or an argument with somebody, whether it was like transgenderism, abortion, the black community, he kind of had valid points. And of course, the way he's saying it, maybe it could be said better. But it was just straight to the point. Hey, this is what it is. And you need to accept this or you don't have to accept it, but go through it and see it for yourself. Despite what Luscious said, and this is the ultimate fact with it, Charlie Kirk was responsible for millions of young men across the racial spectrum, coming into conservative values, looking at life based on, yo, building a family, restoring the values of America.

52:35And these people couldn't stand that. What does that mean? Okay, the exact quote, by the way. Hold on. Boom. Well, he did one time. He said gay people should be stoned to death. Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane. Yeah, he said if I seen a black pilot flying a plane, I would not board the plane. I'm not going to hold you. I would be scared as hell if a person that was in a situation who didn't get the credentials because it was a DEI or something like that. Yes. And they just put them there. Even if it's DEI, they still have to have the credentials. No, no, no. To be a pilot?

53:10No, no, no. You don't have to have the prediction of a pun. Religious freedom should be terminated. Multiple black politicians, quote unquote, stole black people's spots. They did. Listen, bro, you're quoting Charlie Kirk out of context. Martin Luther King was an awful person. I agree with that 100%. Listen. I don't agree with that one. I don't agree with that. You are quoting Charlie Kirk out of context. And what Charlie Kirk was saying, especially with the black policy, he was saying in the age of DEI, he would be scared if he saw a black pilot pilot in the plane because he doesn't know if that person got that job because they were qualified or because of diversity.

53:48Because you're black. And the number one way we see, the number one area we see this is in law enforcement where they reduce the requirements, the fitness requirements, the competency requirements. They reduce that to allow more women onto the police force. Now every time you turn on your damn YouTube, you see some, dude, we just saw the thing where the female cop. So you think they reduce the requirement to be a pilot? No, they're doing stuff like that. But to be a pilot. He said, hold on, hold on. He said, black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. But what was the context?

54:22You have to steal a white person's slap. And what about this one? What about this one? This is what I was talking about, about the Asian thing. Put it on the mic. Hey!

54:36He got pissed off He got pissed off I don't agree with that We all have moments like that There's not no excuse for that There's not an excuse for that He's accountable for that But we all have moments like that I've had moments like that Captain Sabo What the fuck This is a hypocrisy I'm not this is the hypocrisy this dude Lush will be like free somebody who's a straight up free Dirk free EBK J-Bo can you let me talk or are you going to filibuster because you're trying to be Adam right now but it's not going to happen on Thursday it's not going to happen on Thursday you get your ass slammed up out of this motherfucker stop interrupting me look what I'm saying is this free a bunch of degenerates right but Charlie Kirk saying chink is, oh my God, that's when you know someone is a hypocrite, like Lush.

55:39See, what I'm gonna say is this. When Charlie Kirk goes to those colleges, those students try to gaslight him. Listen to the things they say, bro. They're throwing out racial slurs. So if he throws one back, you're getting what you what you did. No, but that go against what he stand for. No, it doesn't. Yes, I do. Bro, he's he's he's he's rage. Charlie Kirk never said that he was Martin Luther King. Let niggas whoop off in your ass and not do nothing. No man is going to sit there And let you constantly degrade him Without saying something Decoratory back So stop expecting Charlie Kirk To not be a man about his shit And that's what the restoration of America is He's supposed to be able to voice his opinion right He's supposed to be He's supposed to allow people to voice their opinion Without him getting mad and being offensive Hold on hold on hold on But A lot of the times When they're talking When they're voicing their opinion They attacking him.

56:38They calling him out his name. They saying that you're a weirdo. They saying that you are the downfall of American citizens. Saying stuff about his family. They say shit about my family. Somebody's in my inbox. Your daughter's an effing whore. Okay, I got to take that. Bro, I have to take that and come back with something that's hitting you. Because at certain points, I'm a man. And sometimes that shit does conflict with my attitude. Yeah, but at the end of the day, him calling the Chinese people what he called them, like that's completely unnecessary. and I'll say that that's unnecessary it's unnecessary you can say something America he's supposed to be this beacon of purity that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying Charlie Kirk is not listen Charlie Kirk is not Jesus and not God he's gonna make mistakes and he's not a politician yeah you're right he was just a guy but now he's getting martyrized he's a martyr no he is a martyr he's a martyr I'm not saying you don't think he's a martyr and I'm not saying he was a troll that's the law what I'm saying is he's a guy he's a guy All I'm saying, he wasn't all right and he wasn't all wrong.

57:41You shouldn't die on your opinion. That's what we all in here doing right now. We just stating our opinions on something. That's a fact. Brandon should get killed tomorrow over because he didn't do an MMA fight or a jujitsu fight. It's just like what you said earlier. You know what I'm saying? If somebody say something to you, you're going to state it back. I got a good example. Remember last week how you had that debate with Brandon? You was cooking. But do you think somebody should be killing you over your opinion? They should kill you over your opinion Hell yeah look When I open up Hold on let him do it Exactly like you said What I was saying When you speaking on a public platform And you got The voice power to go ahead And affect the masses Whether it's positive or negative You subject yourself to whatever comes after that No Regardless Not getting shot.

58:31You subject yourself to it. As far as critique. Hold on, wait, wait, wait. You saying not getting shot, but that's subjective, gang. You get what I'm saying? At the end of the day, what it means to you ain't what it mean to me, gang. I may take, look, just because you handle something a certain way, you want to handle shit with words, I may handle shit with violence, bro. It just is what it is. I'm not talking about whether it's right or wrong. I'm talking about what it is. Hold on, hold on, hold on. So I'm now subjecting myself. So if I get on this platform, right, and I say, fuck all Crips, man, I subject myself to whatever happens after that because I may be certain type of people.

59:09But he never said that. Hold on, hold on. First of all, hold on. That's a street value mentality. So we can't base this off of this. This is American. He's not a street dude. So hold on. Somebody hurting you over your opinion. You think that's cool? I think, hell yeah. I feel like it's validated because, again, what it means to you and what it means to them, gang. But I think that was his argument. It's like, I should be able to have an opinion without you being physically or violent against me. Correct. But that's his opinion. I think that's just him. But that's a moral opinion, too. Like, I should come to you right now and be like, oh, bro, yeah, I'm black and Asian, but I don't even fuck with rice or shrimp.

59:45But again, though, bro, everybody got different morals. Everybody don't have the same morals, gang. Everybody got the same morals. Listen, but what we're saying. Right or wrong. No, listen, Creek. Right or wrong, again, it's subjective, gang. Everybody is different. No, it's not as subjective as we would like it to be, because here's what we're missing. The context. The people who are celebrating Charlie Kirk's death are the same people who drive around with a bumper sticker on the back of their car that says tolerance. And it has all the symbols of every religion on the back. These are the same people saying we have empathy for the people dying in Gaza and we have empathy for the people dying in Ukraine.

1:00:20These people are gaining your trust by lying to you, telling you that they are the empathetic ones. They are the gentle warriors. They are the peaceful warriors, the ones who are going to see the humanity. They say, what about humanity? I just don't think it's as much. Why is it always a partisan issue? Why do you always interrupt me, bro? No, because you've been talking for hours, dog. You've been talking for hours. We can't even make a clip. No, no, no, no. Listen, bro. We can't even make a clip with this nigga. Like, stop interrupting me. Listen, dude, you've been talking enough. Go ahead. Listen, look.

1:00:52It's not all a political campaign. Listen, man. Listen, you're just mad because I don't agree with you. No, not at all. I expect you to not agree. Listen to what I'm saying. But I just don't think it's all a partisan issue, bro. These are the people who say, like this liar. He's over here talking about. Sounds like you're getting mad, dude. I'm not mad. I'm just exposing it. This dude is making fun of a dude who just got his head blown off and got killed in front of his family. but then he wants you to believe he cares about these gangers the reality is he don't give a fuck about none of that he will use them as a stepping stone to get notoriety for himself this nigga is a Jewish person how?

1:01:31how? how? Jewish people have been doing this shit for years so now you're complaining all Jews on me all Jews listen, Jewish people have been doing this for years and Lush and Josh are pretending like they're not doing the same shit right here. How? How? Look, you bring a nigga on the show and the nigga can't even talk. Bro, you've been fucking, you've been talking for this whole time. You've been talking here. You've been talking here. You've been talking here the whole time. You've been talking here the whole time. Shut up. He be damn near, he should have just said, shut up, nigga. And this fucking lock dog fucking sat down.

1:02:10It's one, it's one month. Nigga, he's Dorothy. You're Toto, nigga. You're Toto, nigga. Now you're dick sucking. Now you're dick sucking. Daily. You're dick sucking. This is a dick sucking clip. Now you're dick sucking. Hey, dude. This nigga. You haven't even made a single fucking valid point. Listen, bro. You're taking this conversation in 15 directions. Two Jews and a devil worshiper in this motherfucking split, niggas. Let's talk about it. So let's talk about this. Anti-Semitic vitriol. I don't have anti-Semitic vitriol. You're using anti-Semitic tropes. He was arguing this point. So I can't talk?

1:02:47So I can't talk? So I can't talk? So I can't talk? So I can't talk? No. So I can't talk? You know what I'm talking about? I can out yell you any day. This nigga. No, no, no. No. No. Go ahead. This nigga. Thank you. Clearly unbalanced. Clearly unbalanced. Clearly unbalanced. Lush was making this exact fucking point on another show. Nathan remembers. Lush was making a big thing about Jewish people taking advantage of black people who are rappers in the music industry. Now I'm bringing the same shit up in regards to him. Now I'm an anti-Semitic. You are full of shit. So how is anything I'm doing driving off the success of black males in any capacity and limiting or trying to restrict their growth in any capacity right now?

1:03:35The floor is yours. You can't. I'm not. Let's pretend to care about immigration. Ran out there shaking his booty in front of the federal business. So he's going to make a bunch of jokes. Trump has stepped up in legal immigration deportations. Lush ain't got shit to say about it. Lush ain't got shit to say about it. No, you haven't. It's a heated argument right now. You made me act like a nigga now. Now you get the nigga. Now you're going to get the nigga. Listen. This is not. No, it's all good. No, it's all good. One mic. One mic. Hey, this is a nonpartisan issue. Remember 40 years? You wanted the biggest thing.

1:04:18They got the biggest thing. No, no, that's good. No, this is a great show. Let him step over every time. That's your point. This is why ATM. What if I told you you only have 12 hours to legally have sex? To finding true love. Or just like a good guy. From the director of EZA and anyone but you. This whole thing is nuts. There's nothing traditional about this thing. On August 7th, the clock starts on the summer's biggest rom-com. I'm Owen. Allie. What about me? Monica Barbaro. Callum Turner. I've been told I'm a 7th. By who? Your mom? No. She thinks I'm a 10th. One Night Only. Rated R. Only in theaters August 7th.

1:04:56She was corrected by Adam. Because what AT &T and Richie was doing is bad podcasting, which we've all been instructed on. Adam does bad podcasting. You're doing it right now. Oh, yeah. You're doing it right now. You're doing it as we speak. Go ahead, Les. One mic. Everybody gets the right to talk Shout out to ATM Richie I thought that he could have continued And found a great way to work with us And it's a shame that he did the way he did On behalf of ATM Richie I would like to say Fuck you I mean he definitely didn't say that And I'd like to say ATM Richie ass Looked like somebody grabbed him by the back of the head And just slid his fucking nose Across the rug And gave that nigga rug burn No no no no It's all good Come on let's Come on, Les, get your phone to grab.

1:05:41We brought the niggas out now, Les. We got some niggas shit now. We talking over each other now, baby. Exactly. And what you want is some corny ass fucking frat boy shit. This ain't no real shit. This ain't no street shit. You ain't talking about nothing, player. So let me break it. Whatever capacity that you want to refer to it in. That nice. Yeah. Are you all right? I broke the chair. This top ABS. Forrest just broke the chair. This top ABS. Four extras broke this chair. This chair has been broke. Four extras broke this chair. Four extra donuts broke this chair right now. All right, this shit is crazy, bro.

1:06:17Caloric shantay. Stop playing. You need to be in the caloric deficit. You have to knock my drink over, bro. You are not in the caloric deficit, brother. With that being said, this is not a partisan issue. I don't know why you try to conflate everything with Republican versus Democrat. That's what it is. The Democrats are trash, too, bro. I agree. Don't try to use me and tokenize me as the voice of the Jewish liberals. I don't even agree with half the shit they be popping. Sure you don't. I haven't fucking voted for a candidate since Barack Obama. And half the shit he did I was disappointed with.

1:06:46You're an agent. You're a Jewish, a Zionist agent. And I hate the phrase Zionism. And I will never identify with that. Sure you do. Oh shit. Love throwing them bottles right. He getting crazy. It's actually. It's actually. Hold on. He popped that buzz ball. It's actually disgusting. It's actually disgusting. And when I see Charlie Kirk in body, you guys say he switched up his ideology and was like against Israel. He was sucking Israel's dick for the tenure of his career. For a while. He was anti-fucking Palestine to not give a fuck about kids dying on Gaza. What the fuck is y 'all saying? You don't care about him dying or his kids.

1:07:20So what makes me think you care about the kids in Gaza? Stop lying. Because his life. Stop lying. So guess what? People want to mock those lives being lost. And I'm going to mock his. LOL. Smoking on that Charlie Kirk pack. No. Slick my motherfucking dick. That's all it is. Hey, look, see, so what I'm saying is. Take it right in the neck. What I'm saying is. It's hard to breathe. It's hard to breathe. Fuck that fool. I'll never. Fuck that fool. I don't understand. Wait, hold on. Say it again. What'd you say? I said, fuck that fool. I don't understand. I said, fuck me. I said, fuck me. Not you.

1:07:49What did I do? Monetization. Go. Look, look, look. I'm going to tell you why I'm still standing with him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The same. Look, I didn't agree with everything he said. I did. I didn't agree with everything he said You agree with everything he said? You already said it That's crazy Okay so look I don't agree with everything he said Fuck Charles the Crook As a staff record label Why are you interrupting K-Slim? He didn't just hold you like I did Let him talk You ain't hold nobody You ate too many ho-hos And broke the chair You want this mic? He got a mic He got a mic Go ahead My bad K-Slim I'm talking to one mic man You know So look I don't disagree With what you're saying I don't disagree with what you're saying.

1:08:29But what I'm saying is, I don't feel like you should be killed over your opinion. Of course not. And that's why I don't agree with what you said with the bar that you made. Because you would have never made that bar about Nipsey right away like that. Of course, because I respect Nipsey. But just like he said, whether it's wrong or not, I did it. You feel me? I know, and that's what I'm saying. That's what he said. That's what he said. No, that's what he said to his Mexican friends about the P-Face shit when nobody was around. Keep playing. That's like me. But we can make personal attacks. That's how you know you're losing an argument.

1:09:09That's like me saying, Tariq Mashek holds you out like a bitch. What you did? What you did? Tariq Mashek holds you out like a bitch. And he was a black guy on the Pan-Africanism movement. I wouldn't say nothing like that, though, because that's some bitch-ass shit you're saying. Hold on. Why would I say what? Hold on. Why let's go back? But I wouldn't say nothing like that. Come on, bro. Y 'all niggas is crazy. That's what I'm saying. Look, look, look. Let's get to the moral point. We've dropped the 1 % back. Obviously, obviously, yeah. The conquistador is back there. Hey, Obby, look, bro. I got my 23 in me results.

1:09:42Pending. You got your results? Pending. You black. Yeah, yeah. We're going to see. We're going to see on that. We're going to see on that whole. You're pan-africant. The N-word pass might change pretty soon. No, no. Don't do that, Lush. Stop it now. You're going too far. I've been encouraging you to say the words since I met you. This is my sense of humor. Say it right now. Say the word. This is my whole point. Hold on. This is my whole point. I never took a 23andMe. That's my sense of humor. That's why I said that. It's a tasteless joke, just like the Charlie Kirk joke I made was tasteless. But I said it because I don't like bro.

1:10:15Now, is it janky? Is it wrong? What happened? Is it horrible? Is it a political assassination? We already prefaced the conversation with that. That's his opinion on Charlie Kirk. That's how I feel it. It is what it is now. Now, really, my main thing is I don't like the divisive nature of it being this partisan thing, because I think extremism in any form is wrong. You feel me? Whether you're a liberal extremist with your fucking hair painted and six different genders and a fucking poodle up your asshole fucking talking about I'm trying to infiltrate sports or whatever, or you're a staunch fucking Republican like, you know, Brandon or all the hillbillies that he fucking condones and tries to appease at the end of the day.

1:10:56It's not either extreme. Honestly, Brandon's not an extremist. He's way more centric. He knows what a conservative extremist looks like. It looks like the person that shot Charlie Kirk. Because you know damn well. Charlie Kirk was shot by a conservative. Most likely. Most likely. Want to know why I think that? Want to know why I think that? Because you know no pussy-ass liberal has good enough aim to hit a carotid artery from over 250 yards away? That's a lie. You know that there's plenty of military trained that there are plenty liberal. What? Listen, look at the statistics. There are Chinese in the army, bro, in the military.

1:11:30Hey, it might have been a liberal. You're right. It was a liberal for sure. Fuck whoever did that. They set a bad precedent. You feel me? And you continued the bad precedent by disrespecting the man. But I don't fuck with... Don't shake this thing, man. Oh, he just pressed you. He said don't shake his hand. Don't shake my hand. He shook my hand. Y 'all boys getting too heated, man. This is like you're actually good podcasting. He perpetuated the narrative when he threw out the insensitive bar about Charlie Kirk. That's a fact. I don't care either. Listen, you helped to try to minimize the situation.

1:12:08Lush is a double agent, bro. He will say anything he has to say to get you to lower your guard. If I wanted to appease y 'all, trust me, I could have been like, yeah, that was jank. you know, R.R. Peter, bro. Because he died. No, if you just want to keep it real. If you want to keep it real. Yes, and that in another instance, he died for what he believed in. That's why I compared it to Nipsey. A dude, that's right. A man died. A man died. Whether you agree with everything he say or don't. Shit, he believed people should die too to do the gun violence. He did. Nipsey believed people should die too.

1:12:39Hold on, hold on, hold on. Nipsey never said that. Hold on, hold on. Creep made a good point though because I did see a clip where Charlie Kirk was saying, hey, gun violence needs to happen so we can have our rights after that. We can look at the outcome and be like, hey, this is what our rights are for. A certain number of people need to die a year due to gun violence so we can... That sounds like a real humanitarian. R.I.P. bro. Y 'all please be celebrating Hitler. You know, Hitler was kind of misunderstood, dog. Let's not get into the Hitler conversation because I got a lot to talk about. We don't want to do that.

1:13:12We don't know Jumper. We don't want to do that. Don't talk about my hero. I'm just kidding. Right. No, I don't. You got something to say, though? No, I'm just saying. Die by what he believed in. No, listen. Shit. I believe that. What we're doing right now is we're taking a lot of what Charlie Kirk said out of context, and I understand to actually entertain the liberal mindset, you have to be willing to live in cognitive dissonance and purposely misconstrue people's statements. what Charlie Kirk was saying was in order to maintain your Second Amendment rights, you're going to have to be comfortable with a certain number of gun deaths because as long as you allow gun ownership in your society there is going to be people and I agree I agree so every time so if you have guns in your society people are going to get there are going to be people who get access to guns who shouldn't have them, right?

1:14:10Look at the gang members and all that stuff. It is very hypocritical for black people to be like, Charlie Kirk lived his words. He died by his words because he said we got to be comfortable with a certain amount of gun deaths. But then when somebody get murdered in the hood where niggas is running around waving switches on camera, we say, man, we got to do something about this gun violence. He did have the hardest last two words of all time. We're changing our opinion. We're changing our opinion Based on who's saying something And that's when you know that you're on the wrong path Charlie Kirk said something That was absolutely true Does that mean that Charlie Kirk Deserved to die in a place There is violence is not Supposed to happen on college campuses Everyone can agree But when it's Charlie Kirk Oh it's okay because he said this that and the third These people are just inhuman They don't care about life That's the same person who's criticizing Charlie Kirk is cool with black babies dying by the millions.

1:15:10The same person is cool with death as long as it's in the name of what they think is right. Brandon, let me ask you a question. They're not condemning death across the board. Brandon, do you feel like Charlie Kirk was debating him? In the majority of the clips you've seen of him, he was debating with his intellectual equal? No, Charlie Charlie Kirk gave a stage to people Who had opinions, but they really Didn't understand the opinions that they had They just had opinions because they had been programmed Right, okay, so is it safe to say That he basically made a career Off of rage baiting And click farming off of Semi-autistic liberal college students Well, no, hold on, hold on You can't, listen, you can't No, no, hold on You can't just judge them and call them semi-autistic, bro They were students and like he meant all right guess what guess what i thought that we i thought we're conservative so we're gonna now use some story we were conservative some soy baby fucking uh liberal logic we're gonna start policing words that i fucking said i said what i said but you said they're all this is directed towards the like look i said it because i feel like that's what's going on when i said autistic being someone that's on the spectrum myself by the way you feel me So just to keep that in his context Keep that in his context, you feel me?

1:16:27Like, a lot of people Don't have the same social awareness They're not able to really formulate their thoughts Like he said, he's talking to novices He made an entire career Off of talking to people that were dumber than him And flexing on them College students What does that mean exactly? You do call them college students Autistic Did you go to college? No, I did not So how are you going to say that they're autistic? Because I've been on college campuses fucking hoes for decades. Hold on. First of all, you're just being a rebel right now. No, what are you talking about? Let's get back to the main point.

1:17:01A person in college. I've been a rapper for fucking 25 years. A person in college obviously passed a certain point of education. That's how you get there. Yes. So you can't call them autistic if you haven't even went to college. Oh, but I've seen the debates. And I've been a person of Gen Z kids. I know that there's a huge portion of them that are on the spectrum regardless. What are you talking about? I'm going to tell you what I'm talking about if you listen. Them people who's taking them potums, that means that they have an ideal that they're trying to express. Correct. They're not autistic.

1:17:30They're just trying to get their ideal across. Obviously, that's... I smelled the spectrum. Obviously, but he's correcting them. Takes one to know one. This nigga's crazy. But obviously, he's correcting them just because they're wrong. He's smoking these kids' boots. I know, but listen. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Yes, he was. Hold on, hold on. But just because he's making the right statement or giving them the right answer, doesn't mean that they're autistic. It just means that they're wrong. It's disrespectful. I understand. You're right. Guys, come on, bro. You are right. And I'm not dissing.

1:18:01It's disrespectful. You dissing American college students. No, listen. You are. Yes. They're on your ass. Yes. They're all dumb as fuck nowadays. They're all fucking nepo babies. They're all like, what are you talking about? He's disrespecting autistic people because autism is a developmental disability that means you're born with this. No, no. Neurodivergence is not necessarily a disability. You're already mischaracterizing it. No, you just disautistic people. No, I just cooked him. He's not letting me get my point out. He can't. You already fucked up. You already fucked up. Go ahead. Go ahead.

1:18:34Bury yourself. You didn't say he's cooking neurodivergent people. You said borderline autistic people. Autism is a developmental disability, meaning you're born with it and you can't do anything about it. Not necessarily. Charlie Kirk. It is a wide spectrum and it is not necessarily referred to as a disability. Charlie Kirk is giving college students who have many opinions a platform to express those opinions and he's showing the world and he's showing the world that just because someone has an opinion that 9 times out of 10 they would spew across social media does not mean that that person has solid evidence that what they're saying is actually true or factual and repeatedly we see that the college students have been programmed.

1:19:23You could also have a heart and not be a bitch. You know what I'm saying? What does that mean? No, no, no. Is we finished or is we done? No, I mean, listen, what it means is this. Having a heart, a.k.a. what y 'all refer to as being liberal is a huge umbrella. You know what I'm saying? Being a Democrat does not necessarily mean that you have to, or being a liberal does not mean you have to be a Democrat. Having compassion in regards to social issues, in regards to, you know, reparations, in regards to things like Border Patrol, things of that nature, and the way I look at that doesn't mean I don't believe in us having gun rights.

1:20:09Don't believe that I want my daughter to have to fucking fight trannies, you feel me? Like, like, I don't agree with these, the hard left ideology or the hard right. From what I've seen, he would. You could have a heart and not be a bitch. So it's not exactly a partisan issue at all times. From what I've seen from his clips, Lush, I've never seen him disrespect anybody. I never seen that one we just seen with the. Besides him calling the CH word to Asians. I'm talking about. Find a clip of me saying that about Asians. Like 90 % of the clips that I've, that I've watched. I'm not saying he didn't do it.

1:20:41I'm saying I never seen like a lot of the popular clips where he was disrespecting somebody in the colleges. Like I never seen it. I didn't know. That's what these. But what you got to understand is that that's what these people live on. They were these people. Their whole game. Liberals. The whole liberal game is crazy. The whole liberal game is this. We murdered somebody. But somehow the person who we murdered is worse than us. We don't know that that's, by the way, there's nobody, there's no, that's not confirmed to be a liberal shooter. That's not confirmed to be a liberal shooter. We're going to filibuster every point you make so it can't get communicated.

1:21:19No, but you're saying factual information. Charlie Kirk is worse than the person who murdered Charlie Kirk. He's worse than the people who are celebrating Charlie Kirk's death because he said a racial slur. While we sit up and celebrate people who use racial slurs nonstop in their music. We celebrate people who advocate killing. it's just hypocrisy bro just because you're cool with this dude saying super disrespectful racist things and saying the civil rights just because you're cool with this fool saying super racist shit and saying like the civil rights movement set black people back and you're cool with it doesn't mean that civil rights movement set black people back and i'm black that doesn't mean that that's the consensus of the black majority just because you think but what i'm telling you is i'm not saying i'm not saying i'm cool with none of that i'm saying that one thing a person says or even 10 things a person says is not the sum of who they are.

1:22:10Just like when you screamed that you were going to kill Sharp that day. Let's play that video at this dude's funeral. No, it's not a personal attack. It's a legitimate sentence. We're at Lush's funeral. I don't want to kill Sharp. If we're at Lush's funeral, would it be appropriate for me to play that video where he's like, Sharp! Hold on, guys. Hold on, y 'all. So we got a clip right here. Charlie Kirk talking about gun violence is needing. Let's play that real quick. This is your boy right here, Doug. We got headphones. Everybody got the headphones? Y 'all could have had that. I already know this.

1:22:52I know what's going on. I've seen this already. All right, play it. This is what J-Cat says. J-Cat. That's wild. See, he got beef with Charlie Kirk. I do think he is sucking ass. I still can't hear that. Go ahead, brother. We can't hear nothing. That's not playing yet. It was playing. I'm going to turn it over right now.

1:23:14We were on a... Prepare to use this room. This is very cozy. See? The table's... So that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year. so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. So I don't understand why that's something. We already knew that. Somebody used gun death. Somebody used gun death on his ass to goddamn practice their rights for a boy to be a girl. Listen, this is what we're doing.

1:23:58We're taking a bunch of liberal snowflakes and they're trying to protect how they... Y 'all seem like the snowflakes right now, though. How they think of how they feel. On to Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk understood just being there. There's a chance that some deranged person could kill me. That's why he has security. He understands the risk that comes with what he's doing. Bro stood on what he's saying. These people are trying to make you. This is the programming. This is the psyop right here. They're trying to get you to believe that Charlie Kirk is worse than the person who killed Charlie Kirk.

1:24:30But Charlie Kirk ain't never killed no fucking body He just used his work So that's not gonna work That might work on the Tuesday show That's not what we're saying The person who was killed Is not worse than the person who killed him While screaming that they're an advocate of peace No, but that's I mean, but you could say I could say I'm a fucking The fucking prince of Zimbabwe It doesn't make it true He's definitely not an advocate for fucking truth and peace Or whatever the fuck He's conservative ideology His name is 1776 He's a symbol of fucking white Christian nationalism 1776 What's wrong with 1776?

1:25:10That's the year that America was founded That's colonialism I love America Why don't you put a Zimbabwe But why would you make 1776 As an argument when that's a good year Why is it a good year? Yeah shit that's just when we fucking It's cool that we knocked the fucking British people out the box, right? You feel me? And the Indians! That's totally chill. That's not chill, actually. That's Janky's where we did the natives. That's fucking colonialism. That's imperialism. That's on y 'all. I don't fuck with that shit, player. I don't fuck with that shit. Listen, before I'm a Korean, I'm American.

1:25:51Right! That's one thing people gotta understand. I love America. I love America I love America so much that I know my rights isn't American and those are unalienable and I'm allowed to talk shit I don't need to exactly hold on y 'all we don't know if there's no snipers out there I don't need to I don't need to suck Trump's cock like Brandon you feel me I know my rights isn't American I could pop my shit if I don't like it just like y 'all can guess what we all could and one of the reasons is why is because what the civil rights movement let's don't die before me i'm playing that clip sorry i'm gonna kill you at your funeral yeah yeah yeah don't trip there's freestyles i mean there's me there's me choking in freestyles there's all kinds of shit that's gonna get played when i die but guys do you feel me every person that dies every person that dies in my life is a pact to somebody there's one is a joke to somebody it's a fucking lol no i don't believe what are you talking about bro my homies be dropping that's a fucking joke i see the post Let me ask you a question.

1:26:53What are you talking? I didn't say you, Lush. Hold on, Lush. But people make jokes on that. Lush, Lush, Lush. People make light of that every single day. So you think I give a fuck? Lush. People are in the bitch-ass racist pool that was popping it on me. Lush. So when Nip died, would you have that same day say, who cares? Why would I have? Because I respect Nip. So you just don't respect this man? Clearly. But I wouldn't have made that joke because I don't respect him. But it doesn't mean that I want him to die. I know what happened to him was horrible. That's the best answer to me. moral compass to know that it's horrible and I don't like the precedent that it sets.

1:27:24Yo, moral don't tell you not to say something. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. That's what I do for a living. That's what I'm going to do until maybe I get shot in my neck. Let's get, let's get all the time. Die on those words. You feel me? Let's quickly go around. Do you guys think that a foreign agent killed Charlie Kirk? Yes. Like someone's a representative from another country? Yes, I think I personally think that I'm just going to say that I think the IDA has something to do with it. IDF. IDF, I think definitely for sure I think it was somebody who didn't believe in what he said I think it might have been a person who was transgender he said a lot of things by the way the bullies did have transgender scratches in it so far we got the Jews and the Chinese just make sure we're blaming the Jews and we're blaming the Chinese what's next it was somebody who didn't believe in something that he said on a clip.

1:28:22That's what I think. Liberal Jew training. Liberal training Jew. I think kind of like him. I didn't know until you just said the transgender thing, but I think it'd go back into that clip. It's just like basically somebody used their goddamn gun right to kill your ass so you didn't push forward to tell that boy that he can't tell himself he a girl. You said gun violence have to be, gun deaths are necessary so you can continue to exercise your other given rights. It's a right right now until they make it illegal for a man to say he a woman. So with people like you pressing the issue that he can't be a woman no more, he exercised his gun right to get your ass up out the way so he can continue to exercise.

1:29:13I hope it's not a fucking training. So you think it's a transgender? Yeah. That's a transgender. What do you think, Lush? I think that if I had to guess, it's like a wild stab in the dark here, all right? I was going to ask you to go first, but, you know. I will go. Come on. But for the sake of grace and brevity, I'll say this. There's a thing that happened. There was more documents released in the whole Epstein thing. I don't know if y 'all heard about that. You heard about this guy? Yeah, Epstein documents. His personal book, his birthday book or something like that. Yeah, yeah. What was the direct quote that our number 45?

1:29:4745 I'll say Anthos he's like it sounds like a Crip set or something he's two different blocks yeah he said too many fun filled days of secrets what did you say many more great secret days something like that right that was crazy thing to have occur none of us are talking about that shit though who do you think it was why did you just change the subject I think it was us I think America did that shit To distract To distract from the fucking Epstein shit You think they killed somebody for a distraction? Hell motherfucking yeah Because he's really like to me I never realized and I feel like this is the power Of social media I didn't realize That Charlie Kirk was as Prominent of a voice within the Conservative community as He was like you feel me I didn't realize like he's up there with Candace Owens and you feel me like Okay.

1:30:46By the way, we got to, hey, please. Please protect Candace Owens. Yeah, exactly. Like it don't, whatever, whatever. Yeah. I agree. Don't kill nobody, but like she, Candace Owens. You feel me? We need her. Hear me out, Candace Owens. I think everyone believes that it's a transgender person. Of course, that's a speculation. But then you get, you just told us that there was certain things, certain evidence that points to that. the last three real heinous shootings have been transgenders. And what's crazy is the transgender, the transgender people, one of their biggest things is that everyone is trying to kill them.

1:31:23Everyone wants his dead. Everyone wants his dead. I don't see anything in the news where transgender people are getting killed. No lone gunman targeted transgender people. So it's a lot of projection. And I think that fear is a powerful thing. And they've been a blame of random training to set legislation and transgender. It all ties into the Minnesota shit. I see. I think that's janky. There's a level of mental illness that occurs within that situation. Yeah, see, that's what this is about. And I think that it has to be addressed because now. Wait, in what situation? With the whole transgender stuff.

1:31:55You think it is mental illness. You think you're not what you are. So the whole thing I'm saying is these people are more susceptible to being radicalized. And now, because of fear-based programming, they are now going out acting in the name of their fear. They're acting based on fear. And it's touching. I mean, dude, they're shooting up schools with little kids, man. They're not even. They're like the homie. Sticks and Stones. Shout out to Sticks and Stones for the shirt. We can't blame this on the Chinese. No, no. This is what my boy Sticks and Stones said today. He said, bro, they're going after soft targets.

1:32:34little elementary schools, Catholic schools, Charlie Kirk on a college campus. It's like they're going after people who they know won't shoot back, can't retaliate against them, and I just think it needs to be addressed. I'm not saying they need to hurt it up into camps. I'm saying this needs to be addressed. These people really need to get the help that they need instead of doing what we've been doing lately, which is affirming care. No, this person has an issue mentally. That needs to be treated accordingly, not perpetuate. So this is like a big conservative talking point right now, apparently and a lot of the time...

1:33:09Why do you have to be partisan? By partisan! I mean, partisan. I'm kind of on the fence about it. I see it from both sides. I do think that, like... Oh my God. I think there's only one side he sees. I see both sides like Chanel. Hey, don't act like that song. I definitely love the Channel Orange album is amazing. One of the greatest albums in history. With that being said, like, I think that, um, like it's pretty easy to, to weaponize and make it a partisan thing because like offer it, this has been a major talking point for conservatives recently after the shooting in Minnesota and people were like, we don't take, Oh no, there's Minnesota as well.

1:33:52Yeah. Tennessee was the first one. Yeah. Tennessee was the first one, but like, okay. So now there's been two incidents just to like keeping things in perspective. We can't give them the hat yet. I just saw a video of a mother fighting a transgender who was trying to go in the bathroom with her daughter. Did y 'all see that video? Look, I think all the bathroom shit, I'm fucking... Even with the sports. This is a bipartisan issue, actually. I'm Ronald Reagan when it comes to that shit. You feel me, like... I'm not fucking with no, like, hey, bruh, like, you feel me, no little girl should have to share a bathroom.

1:34:27But I don't care if you think you're a turtle or a fucking squirrel. Like, I don't give a fuck. It's like, bro, if I quack right now, am I a duck? No. But if I believe I'm a duck, I got a mental illness. With that being said, what these people are doing right now, they're trying to bring validity to the fact that, oh, transgenders should have their Second Amendment right revoked. They should have to prove competency in order to have the Second Amendment. That's like what the— That's the legislation that they're trying to put into effect. And then this is a very timely It's people with mental illness You can't look at them like Oh transgender people are losing their rights No people with a mental Illness are losing their Because that's already a law This is specifically Classifying transgender As a mental illness Do you think transgenderism is a mental illness?

1:35:20Could I do? I gotta be honest What do you mean? Listen, listen, I would have to say It's definitely not a favorable circumstance Do you think it's a mental illness or not? I don't know DSM, dude, straight on the books Yes Thank you, we all agree on that Yes Yes So hold on So with the second amendment So with the second amendment Should a mental person be able to have the second amendment? So I'll say this I'm not a doctor to be able to classify what determines mental illness properly. What determines a man? What makes a man? What I believe is when people are trans, they'll have to conceive this as well.

1:36:08They're born into a situation where they have to have a medical procedure, take hormones, and undergo a transformation in order to become what they feel in their heart, right or wrong. Hormones cannot change your chromosomes Do you consider that a third gender? If it's two genders Hold on There's only two genders That's it X and X, Y What has X, Y chromosomes? A man What has X, X chromosomes? Them house Hold on, but that right there defines The difference between a man and a woman So in the middle, that's a mental area I'm not here to push the line for like... Yeah, you are. You're pushing the line.

1:36:54Okay, so since I'm thrusting... Right, so since I'm thrusting that position, Paz, you feel me? What I will say is that I don't believe in there inherently being something mentally wrong with somebody just because they are trans. Now, they might have a mental disability. That doesn't mean that there's something mentally wrong with them. Because we're using semantic medical terms at this point. No, there is something mentally wrong, psychologically wrong with it. Very often, but not necessarily. And a lot of that has to deal with societal issues. I'm not here to push the agenda for the trans, but I just don't fucking...

1:37:32If a pigeon is walking around trying to bark like a dog, the pigeon has an identity issue. You know what it is? You know what it is? I just have compassion. I'm not a fucking shit-kicking redneck fool. Like, that's it. You feel me? But compassion is different from intelligence. Facts. Correct. So you know the difference. Even though you haven't compassion, you still know the difference between a man and a woman. Yes, of course. You feel me? Like I said, I'm not one of these liberals pushing the lines, like trying to be like, oh, like, let's give fucking RuPaul the bathroom. You feel me? That's a nutso alien.

1:38:05All right, guys, we got to pivot off of this one because we're out of time. I feel like what we did was... We talked about Charleston White walking out of an HBCU campus, Tougaloo University. Yeah, that's a great topic. That's a great topic. On a final note, jokes aside, RIP Charlie Kirk, my condolences to his family. You feel me? What's up? Even though you just put that Facebook quote. Too late, Charlie going to hell. No, yeah, but shit. He's going to see you down there, too. If that will bring me to hell, I was already— You got to apologize for that bar. I'll just watch this video real quick, boys.

1:38:36That's what I'm not been to do. So, Charlie, I'm like, I ain't got time to debate. We go back and forth. The old man say two black people don't have no business hanging with each other. Why? Because all they're going to do is argue and squabble. When they get through argue and squabble and debate, they ain't going to feel nothing. They're not going to produce nothing. They're not going to manufacture nothing. They're not going to create nothing. So why don't you talk to black people?

1:39:06We're not arguing, Mr. White. We need plans. We need resources. We need alternative. We're not coming without alternative debate. I'm still going to be branded in a few years in a perfect world.

1:39:20I'm sure you're in a dirty sport. I'm dirty. Get some goddamn money.

1:39:30Y 'all got an educated scholar. College educated nigga talking street talk, criminal talk. I wasted my time. I wasted my time. Most educated game. What school is this? Am I going to lie? I thought I was talking to kids. I'm arguing with that though.

1:39:58Knock Wayne Morehouse. That's what you're saying. I'm down by my people. Mr. White. The White fuck my people. I'm just down by my people. You're right there, bro. You're right there.

1:40:31I went to a white school. I don't give a fuck about an HBCU. Well, why are you here? Because they brought me here by mistake. I didn't know I was coming. Yo, this dude is funny as hell. He is, dude. Damn. Let's go. Let's go. You over here, bro. Damn, Charleston let the seats up. That shit was... Charleston talking. You know he literal. He ain't got to let no seats up. Where do you all start? Let me get a quick explanation on what happened. Exactly. I couldn't hear all of it. So Charleston White went to Tuckaloo University, HBCU school, what I like to call an ignorance factory. He's talking to them about the community and the things that need to be done to get the community, you know, moving forward.

1:41:22And he's being really real and matter of fact with these people, really focusing on what black people can do to improve their situation in their community. the students because they're a product of hbcus they keep trying to deflect off of what charleston white is saying and basically blame white people that oh systematic racism and oppression the same old script right and it gets to a point where you just get sick because i used to do stuff like that like run study groups and stuff like that it gets to a point where you just start saying look at these people who are in a privileged position of being at a university their parents probably aren't poor.

1:42:01They probably grew up with privilege. But look at these capable people saying when it comes to the black community, oh, there's nothing we could do because systematic oppression and racism. But if you take that same black student from an HBCU and put them in a Fortune 500 company owned by a white person, that person will say, I need to do everything I can to move from the bottom to the top. I'm the CEO now in 10 years. But they are unwilling to take that same approach to their own community. When it comes to doing it for their own people, we can't do it. It's impossible. But when it comes to overcoming the odds for the white man to give you praise, like they used to say, niggas couldn't win a 100 race.

1:42:43Here comes Jesse Owens. Now take that same person and be like, niggas can't open up a business in their own neighborhood. Oh, no, that's because white folks. Black people will go above and beyond. They will beat the odds when it comes to personal accolades. I agree. But when it comes to community shit, everything's impossible, we can't do it systematic oppression and racism so he just got fed up and walked out on those so Charles has said he was invited I'm sorry so Charles has said he was invited to speak to the students but when he got there they had a moderator and another student sitting at the table and it was framed as a debate which he was never about right so you probably didn't get paid enough no I think what it was it was about nidge culture and hip hop Okay, there was a debate about snitch culture and hip-hop.

1:43:31They bamboozled him. They brought him there on false pre-senses. Yeah, no, I mean, I totally understand. If he was brought, it's kind of like the Brandon Fade. It's like the Brandon Fade. He did the right thing. He got the fuck out of there. But here's the thing. Why, and I know Charleston got his money ahead of time. Why would you bring someone there who is an advocate for the black community? This is an institution of lower learning, I would call it. But an institution of higher learning is a college campus. Why the fuck are you talking about snitch culture? That's a fact. That's 100 % real.

1:44:03That's dumb as hell. But it is with Charleston White, who has had a really, like, now do I think they should have, like, Why are college students trying to be straight? Yeah, why are college students trying to be straight? Regardless, he shouldn't have been finessed into a debate. Like, he has every right to walk out. But I don't think that's a bad, like, topic. If they were going to have, hypothetically, a debate with Charleston White, that would be an interesting point. Imagine bringing Martin Luther King somewhere and being like, Martin, we brought you here to give a speech to drop some knowledge on us.

1:44:32You just equated Charles and White to MLK, bro. I'm just saying, period, someone you respect. Imagine bringing Martin Luther King to drop some knowledge on you, and then when he get there, it's like, oh, we're not actually going to just let you drop knowledge. We're going to basically refute what you have to say, and so we got this moderator here who's going to tell you to shut the hell up while this person talks. No, dude It's like John Hey, just like John It's just like, right, right, right Facts, facts It's just like John Henry Clark said My peers I have conversations with my peers Everyone else I teach Charleston Wyatt is a teacher to these idiots Compared to them And they're trying to dumb that down Why is it HBCUK on yours?

1:45:20Because I didn't know that Those are ignorance factories, bro Okay, but I'm interested in hearing more about that, but it's just a stark contrast to what you were saying earlier, right? Because if there is no segregation and blacks were just, you know, had to, were forced to exist as this class that wasn't even allowed to have the same proprietary rights, et cetera, voting rights, et cetera. But guess what? We can make our own schools. They're called HBCUs. These are, we're going to teach ourselves. this, our own learning institutions, you're admonishing them. Is that not a stark contradiction to what he was saying earlier?

1:45:59Show you right? It's on the fence. You're on the fence. Where's the wobbler? If you went to an HBCU before the civil rights movement, you wouldn't have heard a single person talking about racism. HBCUs, Tuskegee Institute, and all that. Those people were teaching black people the skills that they needed to be able to sell those skills to people who were willing to pay for them. That's what they were focused on. They were not focused on. Nobody was taking gender studies and nonsense that encouraged people to look at themselves as constant victims. That's what HBCUs are now. Back when real teachers were at HBCUs, real black men and women, they were like, look, F all that race stuff.

1:46:40You need to learn this, this, and this so you can become a lawyer, a doctor, all this stuff. Go to HBCU. The number one major is fucking sociology and business. But it's like that at all. But like most schools are like that, though. Like literally most of our public. We're talking specifically about HBCUs. No, I know. But like, but I think what you, I agree with everything you said. You're moving the goalpost. Well, look, here's the thing. The goalpost needs to be moved because what you said applies to a much larger spectrum. You're talking about the inherent flaws in the collegiate system of America.

1:47:10That doesn't just, that's not just HBCUs. That's now. No, I guess maybe. That's now. Yeah, okay. So back in the day. But in 1975, Harvard was still a prestigious. Correct. That was primarily focused on getting these people educated so they could go out and become their schools that are agriculturally focused. I mean, like, when's the last time that like Texas A &M, right? That's an agricultural school. When were they primarily focused on agriculture? How many fools are going there and becoming farmers? I'm just saying, like, so it's like the whole we're living in a different society. Society has shifted what defines education, what defines the parameters of what makes somebody more fit to be on a high.

1:47:51Because really, we all know college bin bullshit. There is no institution that is respectable in America that will bring a guest to their school to talk about snitch culture. I never even heard of this. I ain't going to lie, though. Like Harvard would not bring somebody to talk about snitch culture. Like I said earlier, that's not exactly fucking Morehouse or Howard. Are you feeling me? It's right there. But it's a college. It's right there. It's not right there. It has the biggest Morehouse and Howard. You heard of that shit? Hold on, hold on. So you're telling me that just because it's an HBCU, it's not respected as Harvard?

1:48:23What? No, no, no. I was talking about other HBCUs. I'm saying that other HBCUs got more. You heard of Morehouse, I'm pretty sure. You heard of Howard before. I've heard of Tuckaloo. Okay, you heard of Tuckaloo. You might be more tapped in that. Most people might not could have heard of that. A lot of people heard of the other schools. that's like saying you heard of Yale you heard of Harvard have you heard of fucking Columbia yeah a lot of people have a lot of people haven't though they might not know that Columbia is another prestigious Ivy League institution you feel me like there's different levels who hasn't heard of Columbia but go ahead I mean like shit he's gonna say okay no I can say name all the fucking Ivy League schools right now I bet you can't I definitely can't keep it going Drake it's not an Ivy League school Drake University is an Ivy League school is it out of city.

1:49:11No. Don't question your own. You got to step. You got to step right there. Pennsylvania University, Cornell University. Well, let's get to the point. So what are we saying? Princeton, Harvard, Yale. Occidental. These are fucking... Occidental is not a fucking Ivy League school. Somebody, chill out. He's trying to catch you. He's trying to get you with a trick back. Back on paper for sure. What? Please stop. He gave me the N-word pass a long time ago. Please stop. Would you say the N-word in a freestyle battle? Go ahead and say no, nigga. Man, quick, man. Quick, man. Listen, we're going to stop that right now.

1:49:42Yeah, let's make people uncomfortable on September 11th. What do you think, Creep? Wait, today is the 11th. I want Creep's opinion. Do you think it was appropriate for them to bring Charleston White there, lie to him, and then try to talk about snitch? No, absolutely not. I think that they should have stuck to the subject matter, bro. That part. You feel me? What they told him he was coming for. Same shit, the bait and switch. Like, you know what I mean? Let me ask you a question, though. You think that for him saying that and for him walking out, should have been assassinated? Wait, say that again.

1:50:15I'm not understanding. We got to go back. This all makes sense with the Charlie Curtis. All right. So with him having that opinion of being like, you know what? Fuck y 'all. I don't care about y 'all school. He's walking out. Should he have been assassinated? If somebody felt strongly enough about it, should have popped his ass. He has not wavered on this dance all day. I'm sticking with that. No, but he stuck to his thing. niggas said fuck my people fuck y 'all if somebody felt strongly enough about that they should have popped his ass they should have popped Charleston popped his ass the same way they popped the other nigga in the neck yeah would they have been right I'm not in the business of talking about who right or wrong I'm just telling them what it is he being controversially right that's just what it is he said that though you cannot do something and not expect a reaction.

1:51:07Charleston is different. We obviously all know that. Obviously, and at the end of the day, yeah, he got finessed into the situation. However, I will say, if that was me that took that stance, I feel like there'd be a lot more fucking pushback from the young Republicans. I mean, because it's you, obviously. Yeah, exactly. Why did they chase this man? I'm not a Republican, first of all. Yeah, but now you are for the sake of conversation. I'm a Republican. Just like, I'm not a Democrat. You feel me? Why did they chase this man out with the... My thing is this, They set Charleston White up, and then when he left, you see it's all females.

1:51:41They chased him out with the cell phones and all this stuff. It almost seemed like it was a clout chase. For sure. Like they knew they was going to piss him off. Almost. My nigga Brandon having flashbacks. Yeah. What the hell? C-T-E. Hey, but for real. I can't believe it. I still can't believe Brandon even went to that fucking fade. You should have known better, bro. You better believe it. We're not going to go back to that, man. But listen, man, shout out to Charleston. What's the next topic, guys? We want to do Woody. Pause. Why so Woody say he's going after young Thug if his daughter don't make a safe recovery?

1:52:12Why was his daughter? What is his daughter? Yeah, I was about to ask. Why is his face all messed up? Oh, so he got into the motorcycle bike accident. Okay. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. I watched the video. He's so crazy. What's up? What happened? Yeah, apparently from Woody's perspective, Thug lied on him multiple times in his interview with Big Bank, and now he wants to crash out while the only thing stopping him is his daughter. So if something happens to her, he will no longer have anything holding him back from doing. I'm real pissed off. Could have marred my daughter, gotta get surgery.

1:52:45And God knows the Lord, he's gonna pull her through. He's gonna protect her. But if my daughter wake up and she cry and I hear her cry, your b**** gonna be mine, boy. And you know what? on real pisto. That's good. I ain't gonna hold you. I believe exactly what he's saying because we all obviously know what happened with him and Nut. He already admitted it. Yeah. Thug actually admitted it too. Did y 'all watch the Thug interview? Yeah, that was... Thug was a big manipulator and a liar. 100%. You didn't watch it? He was manipulating the line. I think with Woody... He was trying to spin, spin, spin.

1:53:28I think Woody... I think Woody is just tired of being truthful with himself and living as a snitch. And then looking at somebody that he pretty much did a lot of crime for. And the boys manipulating him as being the bad guy. You know, he's like, he's like, well, what's the dude's name? That was Griselda Blanco's fucking main shooter. Ravi, right? Ravi. Yeah. Ravi. I watched that on Netflix. I think that was bro's name. I don't want to get it wrong. I think it was Ravi. It was something like that. You feel me? But bro, that he had like 15 hats for Griselda Blanco and that full dude in life. and he's been interviewed.

1:54:00You can watch the Cocaine Cowboys Part 2 DVD to see Interview with that fool or just watch the Griselda on Netflix. There's a movie, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I watched it on Netflix. You can see the fictionalized version of him. The real-life version of him, I swear, is like he like... Is she out of jail? She's not even in jail. Is she? No, I think she's out. She's out. She died, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she got out of jail before she died, if I'm not mistaken. She did. Yeah, she did. Yeah, she wasn't in California somewhere. But I mean, so... Well, she was fucking with a dude from Brooklyn. What do y 'all take from this?

1:54:29What do you think he's mad about? And what do you think it connects with his daughter? Well, okay. So cryptic threats aside or this or that, or, you know what I'm saying? That in the third, uh, people are now just going to be popping it at thug and it is what it is. And all the people that he called snitch and all the people that he had under their, under his thumb and was using his, uh, social profile to demean are now getting their get back. What do you is for show got some lick backs coming. However, from my perspective, and I know like certified guy to be calling no decisions like that, but just from the fucking little nerd in the corner observing, he's still a motherfucking rat.

1:55:05You feel me? I'm a little white kid, whatever. He's still the biggest. What is what I think the Woody? Woody. I like the way. What was it? Munchy that broke it down like the the metal. I forget it was me. It was the metals of the rats in this situation. They said number one gold medalist was a YSL. I think that's still pretty firm. In fact, there's really nothing that Thug actually said that could be linked to an arrest. Now, he is a rat. I'm not saying Thug, not a rat. I'm not giving him a way out. But there is nothing that—the only thing you could argue that Thug said that could be linked to an arrest is the fact that—what's the pro name?

1:55:47Roscoe. Roscoe wound up doing time for drug charges when he has said— And it was like years later, after he fought the whole other case, he wound up getting drug charges when, and thug in that interrogation, voluntary interrogation said this, uh, this guy is with Wayne every day. He's holding his drugs for him. Now I get you trying to, he say, I'm trying to spin him. I'm trying to throw him off. He would never shoot. I guess the street saying he would fucking shoot up. Yeah. Yeah. I guess. No, but yes, that's another place. He went bad. him doing it is another place he went bad to begin with you feel me but him saying that is a for sure violation you're insinuating even though i get in his head like i'm trying to manipulate the female guard uh interrogator the detective i'm trying to i'm trying to flip her in and maybe he is that delusional to be you still told bro and you just didn't realize because back in 2015 the footage wasn't as much of a thing right you feel me like and especially if the person was like the leader of the whole enterprise, which is Young Thug is saying that carries way more weight.

1:56:53But I think that Woody is just looking for an excuse to go at Young Thug. But also, I realize that Woody ain't got no damn job and he really ain't got no damn skill to speak of. So, I think this might just be a cloud chase. I think Bro just throwing some shit out there to kind of get some motion, right? Because if he say that, then somebody might want to call him in for an interview, give him a little $2 ,500 or$5 ,000 or whatever. So these dudes know how to work the internet. They know. He got more than that. That's a crazy thing. Y 'all way more than that. And, and, and Thug, I don't think we'll take the threat serious at all because Thug even went out and said, Woody is really messed up mentally.

1:57:31He really takes medicine and all that stuff. I think this is all a play on Woody's behalf. His daughter had to go to surgery. Bro probably ain't got no, no care for the money. You got to pay for this stuff. So I just think it's all just for, for clout and to get some motion going. This is an insane thing to say, especially if you're a snitch. Like, don't come from my... If you come from my daughter, if I hear her cry, thug, yo, bitch ass, don't be mine. I mean, and like, contrary to that, I've never seen thugs say anything about his daughter. That's what I'm saying. So I honestly think that he's dealing with some type of issue in his mind, saying that, hey, my daughter's going through something because of what you put me through with this whole case and situation.

1:58:10But he didn't say that. He just said if his daughter cried, meaning... Yeah, I think he's just like, I'm going to take my aggression out on you if my daughter cried. I agree with you. That recontextualizes it. Basically, you done already came out and said what you said about me. I didn't respond to it. You know what I'm saying? Shit, this right here is going to throw me over the edge, and I'm going to just take my aggression out on you. And I believe I ain't going to hold you. We know Woody. He's one of them guys. I mean... And I also think that Thug is sitting there and not really taking the threat seriously, because obviously Thug can't go back to Atlanta.

1:58:42He's out here now. I mean, like, Woody is one of them guys and one of them guys. That's what I'm saying. He's one of them guys. Yeah, but also like the police. Like, he's one of them guys. Remember the scene in the movie Life, the cornbread scene? And Eddie Murphy go off, I don't know if I even say cornbread. He's just going crazy, right? Obviously it had nothing to do with someone actually trying to take, like, he took place. He said, even if somebody even He just, he basically said, don't give me a reason. For sure. Yeah. It's like, no, that makes more sense. I get it. But that's still like, so basically like it kind of confirms my original statement.

1:59:27He just like thug, like you feel me? If I even hear my daughter cry, I'm on your helmet. Yeah. Like, like fuck your bitch ass. You better watch out for that boy. If we wake up and she wake up and cry, he basically said he coming to get me on. That's a crazy threat. this because this whole episode there's like an undercurrent theme of like karma you feel me and accountability when it comes to your words and like like bringing your words to life and i feel like this is another clear example you feel me thug has stood on the hill of rat k from day one like i could wear a fucking skirt i got a fucking chopper in my skirt but i'm not a snitch fuck all the snitches so it validates that and he got his fucking long ass nails let me hear let me hear your Young Thug impression.

2:00:09You feel me? Like, you feel me? Thug is Young Thug. Thug is. He got that. Hey, that nigga Thug, they goddamn fool. Hey, that song. I love, I love Dwayne. I love Young Thug's music and that's why this. You know what's crazy though? I told you, after this whole situation with him, with the bank interview, seeing the phone calls and seeing him in the interrogation video, I kind of look at his music different now. Yeah, exactly. They don't hit the same. But, you feel me, like, some of it kind of still does. No, it's a banger. He got bangers, but every time you talk about a rat, I'm just like, I'm telling you what your bitches just say, we're gonna fuck with them banana boots.

2:00:50Look at you, thug. At the end of the day, a nigga gonna start looking at himself like a trophy, like, he's the only nigga in that whole circle that really, he put everybody on. He created, like, everything you got, I gave you. So, when dudes get in that interrogation room and they start hearing football numbers and shit, they start thinking like, nigga, I'm the one who made all this possible. Why wouldn't I tell on this nigga who just was a tag-along or this dude who begged me to be a part of this shit? You know what I'm saying? Because he was Rat K. That's the whole thing. I think that's a big thing, though.

2:01:23He was Rat K. He was Rat K, though. Oh, he never killed any rats! But in his music... He can say a lot of things. He was very defiant to anybody that was a rat. Exactly. He was a rat. It's called projection. Yes, absolutely. Projection. Absolutely. That's the key word, projection. And you know the funny thing? It's so funny. It's so funny that you said... I saw him with a nigga with a skirt on. It's shit. We shouldn't have trusted a nigga with a skirt in the first place anyway. We shouldn't have trusted a nigga with a skirt. This is my whole point, bro. You got so-called straight OG gangstas literally acting like they ain't got a...

2:02:02I don't know if he's a rap. This nigga is a snitch, bro. Look, look, look. Thug Nivison. Here's the cold part. And prior to 2015, we never really heard Thug being super vocal about rats or anything like that. I see more scared. But in 2015, that's when he did that. He was already popping it. Like, he was like, oh, 16 years old. When I shot that chopper, you feel me? Like, he's been talking about smoking fools, been talking about blood this, slap that. You feel me? He only said he shot a chopper. He didn't say he smoked nobody. Well, I'm not going to like delve into the intricacies of his lyrics for the purpose of incriminating him.

2:02:38Exactly. But like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, don't say that. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to snitch if I do that. You feel me? It would be kind of federally. But with that being said, he switched his whole motif to being very vocal about rats after the time of gunning. Not way before that, even like it was 2015 around the time of that interrogation. We just ain't know about the interrogation. but like you said a minute ago Brandon fucking projection he was projecting after that because he was guilty because he knew he did bunk thug you did bad I think bro in that interview he said I knew this was going to come out like I knew this was going to happen he didn't know this was going to come out I don't think he did especially with the phone calls too think about this were we seeing hella interrogation footage in 2014-20 that was not like a big trend on the internet ask that they not release it.

2:03:33If you ain't snitching, why are you asking them not to release the footage? Of course, yeah. Just even because he knows. Because there is still a video of him in the back of a cop car talking to the cop, but they didn't put it in court and they haven't released it because his lawyer subpoenaed it or something like that. I mean, not subpoenaed it. The shit we're never gonna see probably will blow our minds, bro. Bro, these people be snitching. I mean, the way he was talking on the phone, bro, have to been telling a lot. You know damn well people try to hold with the big sad thing. That was such a huge deal and everybody pretty much this is a dude that was poised to be probably the biggest rapper in LA.

2:04:14You feel me? Possibly. In contention. He is the biggest rapper in LA right now. I get that. Who's bigger than sad right now? I'll say that was a combo. Sad just dropped a banger. Sad is that guy. Yeah, he's hard. I think Sad is making the most numbers right now. But the situation with Sad to me is a bit different, though. Really? No, no, no. Somebody got shot. He took him to the hospital. No, no. Exactly. No, my point is that there's no way that that 18-year-old kid version of Sad, when he was talking to the cops in that whole little situation, he never thought that footage was going to come out in his life.

2:04:51You feel me? That's a fact. There's no way. Because that shit wasn't happening. It wasn't a societal norm. It wasn't a YouTube trend. And now we have, if Travis Scott gets pulled over for fucking like merging lanes incorrectly, that's just going to be on YouTube within 16 hours. But here's the thing. Right? Sad is, bro, like someone got shot, bro, took him to the hospital trying to say they like the police asking some questions. In my opinion, like these niggas tried to smoke us. Fuck them. Like, why would I, why am I getting help? Like they shot a, I think they shot a lady, right? A woman. Yeah.

2:05:24A woman. Yeah. You shot a woman. Pregnant woman. Pregnant woman. A pregnant female, she's not a part of this. She ain't involved in this. I guess he said the wrong car color. I shot her. But he said he said the wrong car color. I'm not taking this sad as a snitch. And I'm especially not taking it from a bunch of niggas who are straddling the fence about Young Thug being a snitch. That's what I'm saying. So if you're going to. But niggas is acting like they don't know. You can't call sad a snitch and not thug. Am I lying? You can't. Our niggas not sitting up tiptoeing around a young thug being a snitch shirt.

2:05:581 ,000%. And that's crazy. Thug literally came out and said, hey, if you need the number, I'll call you when I need to. Thug snitched. I think Thug snitched more than nothing. I told you. He lost me. You got to say, yes, ma 'am, in court. Thug actually said, hey, this is what happened. He told him to the police. But there's one thing real quick. But what he did tell wound up being very substantial. He made a huge part for what Gunnett told on was a big part of that case. This is niggas. Listen, they own S.A.G. because they hating on this nigga S.A.G. They not own S.A.G. because S.A.G. is not a local nigga.

2:06:36Oh, S.A.G. did this. He's a snitch. S.A.G. did way worse. And I don't know. Bro, it's just selective politics. That's the internet. That's why I'm telling you. That's not the internet. That's these niggas. Like, niggas who are supposed to be reptiles doing this. I'm looking at shit. nigga oh did thugs this one I don't know I'm like what I proclaimed it myself what were you saying no creep go ahead creep no I was just saying thug lost me in there where he told them when they was asking him like no basically when he told the cops like yeah I'm not gonna tell y 'all that it wasn't no boy so it don't hurt y 'all case nigga what the fuck you mean like I hate to do this But I never I don't want to volleyball It ain't like we got no super chats because this is just recording Yeah no I'm not gonna What other topics we got I think we good bro I think we better through all the topics Congratulations It is the first time we really went through all the topics Beyond that Clap it up for this being better than the Tuesday show Come on man Thursday the Tuesday show this week.

2:07:47Brandon gonna stay on that. That's why I fuck with Brandon. The Thursday show is the best show. Thursday show, the best show. I spoke it into existence. I said, this Thursday show is gonna become better than the Tuesday show. I'm telling you, this week, Tuesday show, we up. Y 'all better come next week with some fire because this was way more fire than that show. And bring back Flip Fone. That's Flip Fone. Adam gonna turn on Flip Fone. Hey, wait, wait, wait. Before I leave, because you know that whole beginning part, Yeah, they're not going to get that. Yeah. Bro, Lush, what is up with Adam turning on Flip phone, my nigga?

2:08:21He literally said that the Tuesday show will now have to be geared towards gangbanging and the strong points of At Hefe and Munchie B. Like, what is wrong with this dude, Adam? You hired this man, and now you're talking about he's not a good fit. I think that we should try to work with Flip more. It was my opinion. I've been saying that, like I said the other day. Don't say it, nigga. Hey, yo, Flip phone, man. Listen, Flip phone. Listen, Flippin, I'm telling you right now, you could be an audience member of the Thursday show. We want you to come over here and clap and have some fun. He signed a bad boy, this death row.

2:08:56Listen, no. That nigga didn't come on as a guest. That's bad boy. This is the lineup right here, bro. But Ricky, I told you, stop being agreeable with these niggas because you was all agreeable and then Adam turned on you. You might as well have been smoking a nigga because he was seven. Adam be saying a lot of crazy shit that really, you can really go at him and it creates a good dialogue. That's why they call him Adam. When you're agreeing with this stuff, now you look like you don't know what you're talking about. Wait, but why Adam turned on him to begin with? I don't think Adam didn't turn on him.

2:09:34But why did you say Adam turned on him? He fired him or something? No, look. Is he not a good fitter as Adam Roth? I told him what was going on. Let me go, let me go, let me go. Adam said, I don't think Ricky thinks he's a good fit for this show. I think he's ducking this show. And I don't disagree with that because it seems like this. He basically was like, that show's not a good fit for him. And then he started saying the show has to be geared more towards like gangster shit. And Ricky's really not a gangster. But I'm thinking, oh, Adam, you're not a gangster either. Well, I mean, like, and I definitely, when he said that, I was like, he said, so what Adam said, like, You're pretty much spot on with what Adam said, but he did.

2:10:15What he basically was saying is because we have Ann and Munchie, like because we have Ann and Munchie, it would be foolish of us to not delve into gangster content because we have these two reputables, you feel me, that are on the show and so respected. So we have to gear a bit of our content towards that. While I agree that there's truth to that, I also believe that Munchie and Ann are capable of way more than just talking about that. And yes, they politic because that's the realm they came up in on as far as content. But I know that they're both capable of doing a lot more politic because Adam bring up the gang shit.

2:10:52And it was already politic. And to be fair, ain't that right? Be like, man, I don't know. It's like the same thing. But I'm saying, listen, bro. No disrespect. But have a disrespect. This is not disrespect, bro. This is me recognizing a pattern. This is me saying, and as an intelligent dude who can have a conversation about a lot of different things. Correct. And one of the things I pride myself on is getting people to, who people may think don't have much to say about something to talk about the, I did the same thing with Hawk. Hawk came here. I was the one bringing up political shit with Hawk on.

2:11:31And he was like, yo, I got an opinion on that. No, I agree. And he was cooking. And Adam usually wouldn't do that. And Adam was like, as we saw with AT &Ritchie, if you talk, One thing about Adam. Shut up. If you talk about something Adam doesn't know a lot about, he don't want to talk about it. And you talk about bad podcasting. You can't just shut someone down if they're expanding the conversation beyond what you're familiar with or beyond what you are abreast of. You just gotta let it ride. Conversationally, I don't 100 % agree, but at the end of the day, it's his show. And he gonna do what the fuck he want and if he don't like the way something is.

2:12:04Oh, you're falling in line. Nah. He's got nothing. He's falling in line. Come on, man. You can talk back. I give my. No, I talk back. He's Montgomery Bird to your smithers. Laughing my ass off. And I'll throw you a good little metaphor right there. Hey, it's funny if you dig in the recycling bin. Nah, man, that's the recycling bin. We done heard that. He already said that before. That's an aluminum can, bro. He gets seven cents in Arizona. Sixth Sense of North Carolina. Come on. He can't even come with some new material, brother. With that being said, no. I feel like Adam, it's not about me agreeing or not.

2:12:48If I disagree, I tell him. He ain't got to listen to me, though. It's his motherfucking show. He don't have me on there because I agree with him. He has me on there because I'm great at what I do. Listen, he should not listen to a single thing I say because just keep doing it and then Thursday show going to be better than Tuesday show. I think we got the best show of the week. Look, I'll say this. This Thursday felt better than this Tuesday, and I'm objectively on both shows. And I'll say that to Adam. You feel me? It's not Tuesday, Kay. You're about to get far from Tuesday. Fuck no. I'm not saying your head.

2:13:18I'm not losing my job at no jumping. I don't text me to be a little bit less now. You can't because I am, you feel me, the heart and soul. I'm the heart and soul of no jumping. You're the blue. Ain't no workhorse. You're the blue. You feel me? You're the blue. I'm a Sagittarius half horse half man with a motherfucking bow and arrow that's what y 'all thought I'm telling you if Ricky watches Ricky man you need to stop just agreeing with everything because it was one day was he on the show with Sus and Ralphie when they was talking about the military shit it was something Ricky was on the show and Ricky made a factual point and then what's his name?

2:14:04Ralphie said something in like he contested the point he made and then Ricky was like, oh yeah, I might have just got too excited. I'm like, bro, you were the one speaking facts. This nigga was wrong. His two left shoes and you let him, he basically bullied you off your point. Like, come on my nigga. Like, I can't, I just can't let that ride. What's up boys? That was a Thursday show. This shoe is lit. Creep the Guapine That was a Thursday show man We got Lush We got Creep We got Brandon We got K Slim Hey man we'll see y 'all next week Love y 'all K Slim but he likes him thick because it's