NORE vs Vlad! Boosie vs Rod Wave, Lil Durk Trial & More featuring Rios & Willy B

32:47He said, you see, they don't want to say that no more. Then he said Lil Pop. He said it. what's funny though is that that was like Brick's tryout to be on No Jumper damn near because that was the last podcast before he got hired him and Flacco just did an episode together Flacco was telling me to hire Brick and then he got hired right after that so as much as that was crazy that might have been Brick thinking like I gotta say some wild shit if I want to get this job I'll tell you this bro and then his father no disrespect you Muslim um Dirk's in there on trial for a very violent offense. And you guys are in the front.

33:30Chasing Trappler around. A foreign white guy. Because he's simply reporting what's being said in the trial. He had to double up on his security. Trappler came through with two guards today. Yeah. But he's standing on his shit. But he also said that the Dirk people were not outside today. And I don't know if that was throughout the whole day, but that's kind of interesting if they're going to just sort of bail out. They're not going to just hold it down the whole time. I mean, who has time to stand outside a court? I mean, not only that, shit, maybe they got some brains. Hey, look, bro. Because the jury's not secluded.

34:13They're seeing the shit. Yeah, that's true, yeah. They're going home and watching Flacco videos, realistically. Bro, they're watching anything related to that trial. I would be. Right? So, okay, this motherfucking dude, he got people in the front ready to whoop Trap Lord's ass. Yeah, he's capable. If I go there, I'm not, we were talking about going there tomorrow, I'm not bringing security. For what? What the fuck is going to happen? It looked like one of the little dudes that was here. The one that looked like DDG. What, one of the dudes out there? It was him, the light-skinned dude with the braids, bro.

34:47That was what cuffed him. Oh, yeah? Oh, one of them was there? Oh, actually, I seen him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was the one talking crazy. Oh, yeah? To Ross? Yeah. I mean, everybody out there just trying to get a clip. They're just a bunch of streamers and shit. So, you know, they're just out there, like, just trying to make something happen. Kanye went today. Yeah, I seen that. MGK went at Dirk's request on Monday. MGK said that Dirk asked him to go, which is kind of interesting. so he's calling in the big dogs I wonder if J. Cole will pull it up what about Drake? Unfortunately the fans don't give a fuck about a feature they don't care about an MGK feature?

35:26listen I told them when they called and asked me if I can help participate in some shirts or whatever I said bro the jury's in the courtroom they don't give a damn about what's going on outside bro this ain't no damn album promo so I don't know if y 'all just doing it for the media because they were saying nobody was showing up at first really yeah it was a little light I'm like the people that should be there should be there bro but you can go out there and pass out all the free Dirk shirts it's not gonna make a difference on whatever the outcome is gonna be right hey I made a free Dirk anthem go bump that me trap lore and break baby so I don't know if they are gonna give me credit for being the free dirk advocate that i know i am no because since then you went to interview six nine sure and also a ton of gds ton of dirk haters king yellow king yellow oh man he he loses his top this is his finest hour he loves this this is like the best this is like christmas for him for the next few weeks bro why why is he screaming the man snitch he didn't snitch on nobody right yeah he doesn't got on the stand and said anything that's why they're mad at ross is because they said that they were screaming at ross delete the tweet which i don't really think there was a tweet i think it was an instagram reel where he basically he said some bullshit i mean he he made a little bit of an error he he spoke about dirk and dirk's legal team putting it all on vawny which is what he said No, he said Dirk.

37:00He said Dirk. Dirk is putting it on Vani. Put it on Vani. And he kind of like neglected to fully emphasize that it was going to be put on Vani regardless because Vani had taken credit for it. And even that right there, like Ross did get the technical details correct. It was just a little bit of an omission that made it look a little crap to people. Ross did what he was supposed to do. listen, he's doing some journalism and he's still trying to get the clips. The clips didn't went crazy. Ross is a scapegoat because these people are so angry at the idea that Dirk is going down and they want someone to blame but they don't have anyone to blame besides Dirk who you can't really, you know, that's their guy.

37:46They don't want to blame him. I guess they're probably mad at Jam and Vonnie and stuff like that but they can't really get at them. So now we're going to pick on the white guy who realistically I would say Ross's coverage of Dirk tends to be a little bit more sympathetic than the average news organization. The LA Times has absolutely no reason to get behind Dirk or support him in any way. Somebody like Ross, at least he likes the music. If there is a pro-Dirk narrative to be had, I think Ross is going to latch onto it a little bit before the LA Times. So I feel like a lot of this anger is really kind of misplaced.

38:24I'm hearing a lot of things being said in court. That's just, you know, gibberish, small talk. You know, they said this, this, that, this, that, that. This Vonnie dude, I don't know when he's getting on the stand. But if he gets up there and pulls a little woody, Dirk got action. That's your big idea? that he's going to get up there and act like a retard? I don't know what his plea deal is. I don't know what he copped to, what he's looking at. Did I say he copped to a murder or two? Three, I think. And he's still looking at 20 years, they say. Don't you think it's probably like the kind of 20 that they're going to be trying to chop down if he actually does successfully help Derek get locked up?

39:12Well, shit. I mean, murders get you life, so I don't know if they went from life to the 20. But if he gets 20, honestly, 20 is a gift. if he just got three federal murders. I mean, that's insane. Like, yeah, 20 is a gift. If he does 16, 18, whatever, I mean, that's probably, you know, come out when he's 40-something. I mean, there's still life to be had after that. But, I mean, what's his experience going to be like in the feds? He's going to have to be locked away, not near any of the real gangsters. He's going to the cheese factory. Yeah. Yeah, this is a high-profile rat. This is top-rated nitrous rat.

39:48Hmm. OTF Jam going to be the best interview of the year in 2046. That's going to be the best. Can't wait. I'm tuned in. I'm subscribed to No Jumper and Cam Capone in advance. We'll be on an Elon Musk rocket space somewhere. Not me. I'm still going to be talking about OTF Jam. You think so? Hopefully. Hopefully I follow this thread until the end of my existence yeah love talking be over with i mean 20 years like what do you think i'm like at 62 asshole yeah that's it stands to reason probably not gonna change too much i met your guy big deal for the first time saw you put your your fists on his chin i mean you know hey listen man i showed up dolo what was i i didn't see the clip i just saw a screenshot of you both with your fists on the chin i'm like what what is this like where do they do that You know, I was letting him know he got little stubby arms, and I got more reach than him.

40:54That's true. And normally a criticism of you would be that you have little stubby arms. Yo, that dude. Yeah, he is a little rock 'em, suck 'em robot. He looked like a mini fridge, like a keg. He looked like a keg with arms. It was a lot of crazy shit went on in that segment. And I come to realize that he totally just does not like T-Rail. Big deal. Yeah, he don't like that. Really? I haven't really watched anything of them together in recent years. He don't like that dude at all. Really? At all. He's jealous. He's a little envious of what he's saying. Listen, you ain't never did no cripping. You doing everything off my motherfucking name.

41:30Yeah. And you stingy. And I should be taking care of. I told T-Rail, that is Cain and Abel. But he says that to T-Rail? He said it. Really? You know, I'm antagonizing the shit. No, I love that. I'm bringing it out. Really? I'm baiting this shit. Listen. He said it. I'm like, whoa. Right. They really got into who did what and what, who ain't what, and this, and all kind of shit. Really? Wow. Yeah. Then we come to realize that T-Rail really had an issue, got terminated by Tiger because the break-in of the house. Tiger's house got robbed and Tiger blamed it on T-Rail? No. I didn't know that. He said, they said T-Rail was good.

42:19At the time, I didn't know who his brother was. They said, but he's too close to his brother. We know his brother did it. They really thought Big Deal did it. They told me that in 2022. Well, to be fair, Big Deal has been hired to do security for Tyga as recent as like a year ago. That's what he was saying. Why would he hire someone? He was saying, I can talk to Tyga right now, but you can't. He told T-Rail this. T-Rail said I would never want to work for Tiger ever again in life. That's going down the totem pole. I'm pretty sure that Tiger's one of the only people that T-Rail follows on Instagram.

42:56I can look at that. At some point in the past, I noticed that T-Rail had done the cool guy unfollow thing where you unfollow everybody. Did he? Yeah. Well, now he follows 150 people. but at this time he had he had unfollowed down to like five people or something like that so i clicked it and one of them was tyga and notably like his girl and his kids and stuff weren't well i don't know if his kids have instagram but like i just stood out to me i was like one of the only people he follows tyga at that moment i'm like oh he probably has a tyga interview coming out or something but then that never happened no i don't yeah oh and that's well i don't know there was a clip of T-Roll like trying to talk to Tyga at some concert, some stadium like or like Tyga's walking and this is probably within the last year and T-Roll kind of like cozies up next to him and you kind of see him like talking to him but okay at the risk of getting labeled as having T-Roll derangement syndrome much like the very common whack derangement syndrome this is my read on Tyga is that he has so much shit that like could be put out there about him he dated kyla jenner on camera on tv when she was 16 he's been attributed to have had sex with like tons of trans women all over la oh tyga like i i've had trans women on the podcast say tyga has every trans woman in la i'm not saying it's true i'm saying that trans people say that have said that to me as if it is gospel i think as a result tyga does not want to do anything that involves his actual personality i think tyga's worst nightmare is going on a podcast where he has to really be himself for a couple hours in a row you mean he had sex with a bunch of trans with a bunch of men well they've got bulls and mouths and dicks as well i guess i don't know how it worked i don't I don't know if he's a top or a bottom.

45:00That's just what the streets are saying. The trans streets. When you said that, now I'm visualizing him and YG in lipstick and wigs. Bro, they did that. Like, what do you mean? You're saying they might have just already been like that. That wasn't for the video. I mean, bro, maybe he was like, you know what? I want to see what I look like. Because if you're telling me, I never knew he dealt with. Allegedly. Me and Tiger, all right. I didn't Lord have mercy shit well anyway all I'm saying is that Tyga has been able to like really kind of coast by people don't seem like they want to pay attention to the Kylie Jenner stuff like it's just not controversial even though it would be such a big controversy what does his album do the first week everybody else I think it did horrible everybody knows it's just an AI album right it's a what album AI it's all AI oh he's not on it at all well his robot version of himself, I guess, is on it.

46:00But anyway, Tiger don't want people to know him. He just wants to be able to be this celebrity that people don't feel the need to probe deeper into. Pause. AI. You're looking up AI? It's not even showing this album. No, what's it called? Stars something? Starface, look at it. It sold roughly 2 ,000 units in its first week and failed to debut on the Billboard 200 chart. honestly even that is is almost like a shockingly high number 2000 units yeah them lefty gunplay numbers honestly i mean a little bit higher lefty gunplay was like 550 yeah yeah but um 2000 units in its first week the only hype or attention that i saw about it was due to the fact that pitchfork gave it a zero and then he responded and basically said which was pretty funny he said that the devil uses pitchforks which is that was funny okay that's like 30 million strings pitchfork said the rapper's slop pop concept album is smug and complacent and depressing its very existence has made the world a worse place oh shit i mean yeah having not heard it i'm going to assume that I would feel the same way.

47:240.0. I don't know if they've ever given anyone a 0.0. I'm not going to argue it. Can you go to the topics? Crazy. What else we got here? Yeah, we got Dirt. Okay, Kanye showed up today. OTF. Blah, blah, blah. Why I see what Woody says. Yeah, we now know that Woody does not like, he doesn't like, where am I going with this? he doesn't like duty low so that's that's a beef that i was at least a little bit surprised by um so duty low notably like there's a narrative going around that otf has been getting picked off since dirk went down because you know bezu got killed in a parking lot in chicago duty low got robbed in atlanta and i think they took his necklace and his and his watch or something you know all these situations with the otf guys that didn't seem like they were really happening before and now they're kind of like back in the hood doing random side missions and bad things start happening to him so Woody's basically just like rubbing it in that uh that duty low got his shit took duty low did a whole thing uh defending why he got his shit took when we interviewed him but you know happens to the best what he's what do you mean why do we i forget what he said you know somebody robbed him somebody got a drop on him um this Rod Wave thing.

48:52Rod Wave beefing with Boosie. Yeah, but I'm reading everything, and it looks like it's not even Boosie's song. So what I heard... Somebody else owns the Masters. Maybe we could look this up. So basically, I guess... Rod Wave has made, according to Boosie, like 10 songs that essentially interpolate or borrow from Boosie's songs. So I guess Rod Wave is a huge Boosie fan or whatever. I know a lot of people are. But basically, he's saying, Boosie's saying, I never asked for money. I never sued you. I've never asked for credit. But you just did it for the 10th time. And you can't even ask me to hop on a song.

49:38Basically, Boosie feels like he should have been treated better in this whole thing, which I didn't know about. I don't listen to Rod Wave like that. And I definitely don't listen to Boosie like that, honestly. should we check it out should we listen to uh yeah thank you moosey before we gotta listen to boosey first and then rodway all right here we go boosey responds to rod wave following their heated exchange well what was the heated exchange yeah i think you're playing these out of order

50:07i mean where was the heated exchange gotta be a heated exchange right Okay. Rod Wave responds to Boosie and reveals he offered him$100 ,000. Okay, that's still not the original thing that Boosie said?

50:26Shout out Remo for not providing links for this, you fucking prick. You got to keep going, right? Because he did a lawsuit. Oh, he did do a lawsuit? Yeah, he made a lawsuit. So Rod Wave went off. Whoa, okay. All right. Let's check this out.

51:13property. I sampled so much and interpolated so much of their music. I already had a relationship with your label. I knew from the jump you didn't own the music. So when I reached out and I offered you$100 ,000 fam, you said that wasn't enough. You got me fucked up. I ain't going for nothing. Ain't nobody finna be president. You're a nigga go to court. You a bitch. You a hoe. You ain't no gangsta. You ain't nothing. You start taking him to court. No, I ain't getting ready. You know, Wow, okay, here we go. This is Boosie's response. Rod Wave, stop playing victim. That was your fourth or fifth time doing what you did to my records.

51:49Now you're saying you were showing love, and what you looked up to wasn't real. You wouldn't have never did that to another artist, but you did that to me because you know I'm a real N-word. And showing love would have been popping me off when I asked you to. Showing love would have been popping me off this one time for all the times you did it before. showing love would have been reaching out to work with me after you did this the first couple times showing love would have been popping me off when you found out i didn't own the song just some crumbs of the publishing if you would if i would have did that multiple times and i looked up to an artist and my sack was straight pause i would have blessed him that's what real n words do no you rather give it to them jews and give me nothing and i still ain't sue you n-word stop Stop playing victim and let it go.

52:35Did he just say showin' love would have been giving me some money although it's not my music? That's what he just said. He wants to be compensated in some way, but it sounds like he wants a collaboration more than just credit. But he just said showin' love would have been giving me some money even though you found out it wasn't my music. Right. So you sued a man for$200 ,000. I don't think he actually sued him. he just threatened to, right? Well, Rod Wave offered him 100, and he said it wasn't enough. That sounds crazy to me. 100 grand seems so fair for interpolating your music when legally he doesn't actually have to.

53:16Boosie is looking like a fucking ingrate. I feel like it's all bad for Boosie since he left Vlad. Maybe somehow Vlad was keeping Boosie protected from bad PR. He's on a spiral, bro. Yeah, he has not filed a lawsuit against Rod Wave, although he has repeatedly threatened legal action and blasted him publicly over an ongoing music sampling dispute. The song... Well, that's not on the screen anymore for some reason. But I guess we can watch this. Rod Wave, he can chalk that feature up. You can exit out of that. We don't need that anymore. That's over. Let's watch this. Rod Wave addresses Boosie's lawsuit against him.

53:54Man, I don't know what to do. Boosie on fire, man. I used to, man. I had the Boosie fade, man. That shit crazy, man. You had the boosted fade? Man, I had the boosted fade, man. You got to put the picture right here next to me. We going to put it up there. I'm going to give it to you. I had the boosted fade, man. That shit crazy. I just was showing love, you know what I'm saying? I ain't. He didn't take it as that. I guess he didn't, man. But it's so crazy because, like we said, like, you know, growing up, like my adolescence, you know, the people that I looked up to, like the real guys in my life, like my dad and my uncle, them boys were gone.

54:29on the road they stood on whatever business they was on so the tv screen the youtube or whatever was our role models you know i'm saying and everything they talked and preached and did we lived you see what i'm saying yes and maybe it wasn't even real you know what i'm saying and that's the hard part that is that is that really because i heard people you know you never want to meet your idols because they're never what do you think they are yep and it might rearrange something in your brain because now i'm just like i'm anti-old i just off rip i don't i'd be on old ass all the time y 'all y 'all in the way i feel when i say this guy every week man some of them you know what i'm saying you're 40 someone want to give you the game i want to help you but that's cool but i don't just became so i got a bad taste in my mouth about How do you owe the guys Try to do it They try to run the game on you And if they can't get over on you Now they mad about that You know what I'm saying I don't like that man You know what I'm saying Cause that ain't what I came An older cat Grabbed me You know what I'm saying My Uncle Derek Put his arm around me And really like You know Yeah Let you know what's going on Really changed my whole trajectory Really make He really Did something Positive Like what I Uncle D It wouldn't be no way wouldn't be no five years platinum wouldn't be all these millions of dollars wouldn't be all these kids and all these charities it wouldn't be none of this stuff without one older guy who hadn't already been through it and did it and the fact that he put his arm around a young cat that he saw had a little light in him who had his head his mind on straight that he can help and fix and god he took his time out and dedicated a part of his life to that all right that's a nice that's a nice little parable they just spit up there for us got a little long wind wait so okay boosie has responded this is good now we're really getting into it okay now we're podding seven hours ago Okay.

56:30Shut your big ass up, boy. Sound like Hellcat. You done took 15 niggas music and made a career out of it. Ooh. Boy, you a straight bitch. Let's talk about, nigga, you done took 20 niggas music and made a motherfucking career out of it. Boy, you's a big old bitch. Oh, man. Talking about your heart ain't never been broke. But every song nigga you talking about your heart broke You a cap rapper You got the whole world saying for nothing Shut your bitch ass up Clown ass Talking about you looked up to niggas What the fuck you looking up to niggas And you ain't never done nothing like these Boy you a bitch You took care of everybody's shit nigga You a Muppet, baby.

57:27Big ass. Boy, shut your big ass up, boy. Look at it. He can't say that, bro. He took 15 niggas music and made a career. He can't say that, bro. That's why I already seen this part. He wanted a feature. He wanted a feature, bro. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was willing to turn down enough money to buy a car for a feature because if you're Boosie, you know that you constantly need the younger generation to fuck with you in order to keep you relevant and make the newer generation look at you as somebody that they might possibly want to listen to rap, which you know is an uphill battle because your oldest fuck out.

58:09And he is a legend. He is a legend. But Boosie knows that him being on a rod wave, like I remember Project Pat talking about Drake putting on his album. Bruh. that was for sure the best thing that happened to project pat in 10 years right that that's like life-changing shit when i brought it up to ray j that drake sampled the song off his album actually i didn't even bring it up ray j i mentioned drake to ray j ray j immediately says drake made me so so much goddamn money by sampling my song which i'm sure you were involved with as well i'm just saying like for the for the old head rappers who still maybe kind of have a way to fit in with the younger generation that shit means a lot so boosie now deciding that he hates his music and wants to clown him.

58:50I love Rod Wave. Who could be swayed by this? It's so fake. This is a disappointing episode because we got Boosie and we got Nori and they're both doing lame shit. You see what's going on? He said he's old N-word K. You see what's going on? Rod Wave got a point. The old heads are acting geriatric out here. No, no, no. Let's talk about it. Before the rappers were the ones sought out to be around to be tied to let me get close to them. Right. And that came, what came with that was the street persona, all this gangster shit, whatever, right? Right. Now, the childish square streamer is the one sought out by the rappers.

59:41The neons. Hey, bro, we want to come stream with you. Right? All the older dudes is getting exposed for shit. Sex offenses, telling, all this type of stuff. The tour's getting canceled. All this shit is phasing out and resetting. To where if you're not keeping up with the times, you're going to be forgot about. They're going to forget about it. Man. And that's the bad news for Boosie. is that listen we know you ordered like 10 bodies or whatever and you beat it it's amazing it's cool as you had the young dudes from your neighborhood smoking people you you got past that that's amazing rod wave which he does have a case right now for like shooting at a car that his girlfriend was in i think but you know he represents like a new form of masculinity yeah he's heartbroken he's sad he's all up sure but so you don't really need to be the killer anymore to be a hot rapper you don't need to do none of that and now boosie's trying to like weaponize rod waves modern persona that is largely responsible yes he's very talented but like the new generation part of the reason why they like rod wave so much is because he's offering up a different version of what it is to be a guy he's open emotionally the same reason they love juice world rod wave is like one of the only rappers that really kind of itches scratches that itch like post juice world you know and like boosie's now trying to use it against him it just sounds ridiculous.

1:01:13It's like you were dying to be on this fucking project. Oh, yeah. You wanted a feature. You wanted this. You wanted that. And then come to find out, the song you claiming, it ain't even your master. He don't got to give you nothing. That's a flex. Oof. Like, for Rod Wave to be like, oh, I don't even have to worry about that because I got my publishing right. Yeah, I fuck with Rod Wave, man. You all right with me, man. Yeah, I hate seeing Boosie kind of go out sad like this. You got to get it together. It's a lot of them phasing out. if you are an old head it is very important for you to avoid beefing with young hot rappers unless you have a really good reason to do so because inevitably in the public eye they're just going to be much more likely to be taken the right way and you're much more likely to look like a salty ass abe simpson screaming at the sky which i think is inevitably what boosie ends up looking like here like the fans of hip-hop are young in large part and rod wave really comes off looking like the smarter cooler more laid-back more mature guy going on yeah we take this call you're not gonna be mad on you are you take this call you want airhead we are live on adam and whack show are we live that's a fact what up act that was good man i was really calling whack to see, so we're covering the case.

1:02:40This idea of co-conspirator for... I told you it was Doody Low five days ago. I told you that. Everyone thought it was Brick Baby, though. Doody Low told me it was him five days ago before it came out. We all thought it was Brick Baby at first, too. We all thought it was Brick Baby. Okay, why do you think that Doody Low even told you that? Because he told me that, too. But here's the thing. Well, he told me some more shit today that's even more disturbing, but I'm listening. but we got to think about this so co-conspirator four which is duty low he's the one who gets the location he's the one who basically you know jam said on the stand jam said on the stand he never knew why he went out to california he said he couldn't get dirk on the phone one time dd dd like showed him dirk on his phone but he said he called dirk dirk would not answer and he called Dirk again.

1:03:34Booty Moe called him. And he said, Doody Lowe called him directly at one point and said, you're out here to kill Kwon Do. That's crazy. Listen, so today, I get a call. You just opened the box. Yeah. Doody Lowe's upset with me. I went under Setty Nash's post and said, if they don't arrest him in five days, I'm going to be scratching my head. So he calls me, whack, what's going on, bro? Why would you put that? I said, look, bro, you told me you were co-conspirator number four. You told me your attorney told me as long as you wasn't indicted before they picked the jury, you're good. But this man got on the damn stand and said, you told him he was out here to kill Quando.

1:04:31This is what threw me for a loop, Act. He then said... You know that's the Jim Jones calls, right? You know just how he's saying Jim Jones made an order? You know what you said with Jim Jones made an order? But the difference is the fans had the Jim Jones call on Wiretack. They don't have this one, right? Okay. Doody Low then says, I knew exactly what Jam was going to get up there and say. So I'm saying, so you telling me the feds questioned you and told you what Jim had already said? Because for you to tell me you knew exactly what you were going to get up there and say, either A, you really told him that shit, or B, they already questioned you and told you what he said.

1:05:19And if so, how the hell you beat the indictment? What was the answer? You got me in suspense. He didn't answer. Right, because there's two scenarios, which is that Doody Low really did this shit and should be part of this indictment, or maybe Doody Low told. But it seems like if that was the case, that Doody Low wouldn't be outside the courthouse protesting. Outside the court. It's so interesting because even after, right? So, you know, I got the indictment up here. even after it says co-conspirator four was in a text messages laughing at the news reports that little pop died so he dropped the low he supposedly gets on the phone with um uh quando not quite i mean um jam says jam you're here to kill quando and he's laughing with dirk and crew afterwards it's tough and by the way they also say he was they said after the death of davon bennett which is King Von.

1:06:22They said that in Co-Conspirator 1, which we now know is Dirk, Dirk told Co-Conspirator 2, 4, 5, and 6 that if they could kill Kwon Do or Lil' Tim, there is a bounty for it. That's what it says in the indictment. Now, granted, they're kind of substituting this for an alleged some meeting at an Atlanta studio where Dirk says, yo, listen, 6 69 is laughing at me online. No, somebody got to do something. And if somebody do something, they're set for life. I told you, I just told Adam. I said, bro, we got to credit 69 for the peer pressure of Lil Durk. I think Lil Durk would have just let it go if 69 wasn't pumping it the way he was pumping it.

1:07:13I think you're ignoring a long history of Durk being like dead set on getting revenge against people who had wronged him for years before that. But definitely, I think 6 '9", was giving him a little bit of a kick in the ass to get the plan going. No, no, I'm going to be honest with you. 6 '9", plays the bigger part. And I hate to give him credit because he's like a gnat. You can't get rid of him. Once he gets to the little point, he will never shut up. But I got to be honest. Let's put things in perspective, right? Just being real. Okay, so Lil Pop dies. Dirk says he can't enjoy New Year's Eve because his man died.

1:07:46Nobody's sliding. he's telling his people who are saying look at these guys talking about me they're laughing at me about this slide from von thing now that puts a lot of things in motion because every movement that contributes to the crime happening is dirk basically saying we need action immediately so i don't know i'm not giving uh 69 credit for this happening but he's definitely a factor in terms of, you know, and I guess you could just sub him out for Instagram comments or for whatever feedback. That definitely made Dirk move a lot different. I can't lie. Hey, bro, let me ask you a question.

1:08:30Yeah. Do you think it's gonna be the words of one guy that convicts him, or do you think it's gonna be everybody. I don't think Jam's testimony means shit, but just him, him staffing, yeah, we killed him. We was there. Yeah, Jam, all Jam proved was that he's a flunky. Jam, he got his shit off by saying, and I think he was trying to serve up some sympathy points. He said he, this is after he allegedly may have done stuff for Dirk already since he got out. Because that's what Brian Seale is crossing him on now to say, why did you just change up after this? You seemingly were down to do other things.

1:09:16He testified that Vonnie was putting a gun in his hand every time they went to a new city. He testified that he was thinking about robbing niggas. So he wasn't some guy, you know, he testified today saying, you know what? I have a child who I never got to know because I was locked up. So he said I was mad at Dirk because he put my freedom in danger. So Brian Steele is kicking his ass saying, dog, you told Dirk you wanted to rob people. You came out of jail not on some I want to be a father. you came out of jail saying I'm the guy with the reputation and that they fear whatever so so Jam says he was mad at Dirk because Dirk sent him on a dummy mission with a bunch of goofies and first of all he didn't know Los Angeles at all so he didn't know he was killing somebody in Beverly Hills how significant how important yeah we all said that what the what are you doing he said he said when he got on the plane he said first of all Booty Moe told him to come out there he said he gets to LA and he said him and him and Dirk used to have a one-on-one relationship where they could talk to each other.

1:10:19Dirk would call him frequently in jail. He calls Dirk phone. Dirk does not answer. Then DD and Vonnie. Vonnie is the guy who was helping King Von pick out the stuff in Icebox. He's a cooperant too. Basically, they all look at him like how whack. You see you as a street dude look at me imagine you about to go on a drill and and you fly out somewhere and i need to the airport and i said i'm gonna get you all you need and i give you the mask the gloves all the stuff and you look at me like this goofy nigga is not about to send me on to do a crime in in beverly hills so he got mad at that also the whole drill was scuffed he tried to call it off he said um while he was on the way he seemed that the guys he was with they're nervous like they're all like frantic and he says he tries to tell dd let's call it off also he got he felt he got suckered into pulling the trigger because when he gets there after they told me here to kill quando one day they're stalking quando quando's riding scooter outside you know about a level hotel yeah yeah yeah he's riding scooters out there and when he's riding the scooter you know like they kind of see them now so they already got a job they see him dd takes the gun and puts it against the window, they're in a car.

1:11:32And he said, man, I could kill these niggas right now. Now, that's important because the next day when they're actually following around at the Escalade, Dede, who had the gun in his hand yesterday talking about, I could kill that nigga right now, but apparently they seen some cop cars and said no. Dede gave the gun to Jam and said, hey, big bro, take this. I'm rusty. So he told him he was rusty at doing the killings. Yo, bro. You can't. He was rescued doing the murders. Oh, man. Hey, listen. So he passed the gun off, and then he sits in the car, which, by the way, here's another thing. Jam is such a square in a sense of like he's just not a criminal.

1:12:17Of course, for the car that has the shooters in it, it's the stolen car, it's the hot car, whatever they call it. He books an exotic rental from a rental place. not only did he book the exotic sprinter from san diego he books an exotic rental and he follows cuando rondo in the exotic rental knowing they got no guns him and dd and that's how they track that rental back to dirt's house complete rookie show and um yeah i i think james has kind of found a way to realize that he could finally cleanse his record by just taking a plea where he admits to everything he ever did. Also, Dirk wasn't giving up the bread.

1:12:55He said Dirk. Dirk kind of nodded and agreed to. Right. They didn't respect Dirk. And that had to be motivated. But like, all right, when Jam is saying that he basically had like a come to Jesus moment and when they killed Lil' Pab that he felt horrible and he felt so bad. Like, I was kind of under the impression that a dude like OTF Jam don't got no goddamn feelings. That when it comes to killing his ops, he's happy to do it. Do you believe that or do you think he's saying that because that sounds good in court? Yo, yo. He's lying. I have on my stream Instagram page. It's basically like an obituary.

1:13:31The guy who he killed in Racine, he killed a guy in Racine, Wisconsin. We have the story. It was a 41-year-old father. He gunned down. Remember, he put the gun to his head after his O.G. He said, yo, I know you shot him, but he's seen our faces. He's going to tell if you're going to go to jail. And he shot him in the head and killed him. The guy's brains was flattered over He had over 16 years Or actually 13 years to feel bad about that crime You killed a man in cold blood He had a kid's wife all that He never ever confessed He never ever did nothing to atone for those sins Until he had a favorable deal from the feds So if you only find God When you can find a way out of jail I might have to question How sincere you are Hey listen man I'm just glad that I've long since removed myself.

1:14:21You were never doing shit like this. Get the fuck out of here. No, you're right. I was never doing shit like this. You ain't never killed somebody in West Hollywood in front of their hotel. Huh? At the gas station. No, listen. You missed the point. I've long since removed myself. But you can't remove yourself because you were never really getting down like that. I never have. You're right. You got no skits. Do I look like loose cannon? Motherfucker. You're right. I ain't never did nothing. No skits. No skits All I got is skittos Okay These guys are such fish out of water Obviously they go to California They're trying to kill him at a dispensary They send one of the eventual shooters His name is Brown Eyes He walks in there They've never really been to Cali like that But they're seeing the dispensary They realize I guess in all Cali dispensaries There's a security guard And they realize Quando is in the back So they said I'm not going to do it there they was going to do it at a clothing store when they go to the spot they're like you know what let's kill them and bake and they and then they look they're like i think these guys are going to be able to lock us in here when by pressing a button so that's how they waited at the gas station they thought about it like a bunch of times hey listen man and listen we're gonna sit back and watch the show um we about to keep reporting we got sauce walker and the young lady i just met two weeks ago just met this young lady yeah yeah sauce walker is is really being outed as an abuser and a gaslighter these days, man.

1:15:46Did he abuse her? He beat all these bitches up as far as I know. I don't think he beat her up. Maybe not yet. He just didn't have enough time. He has her. He said he tattooed her name on his face to keep from having to pay her$150 a day. Did you see her exposing? He got so many pills. He said he's a pimp. All he does is finesse women. He says he tattooed her name. To keep from paying$150 a day. no but when i interviewed his baby mama kylie she said that his whole narrative about drake is the biggest bullshit ever because sauce wants us to believe that he's the pimp and that he got drake sending these girls cars and money and then he's really the one shooting music videos with the cars and spending the money or whatever and i asked kylie about that his baby mama and she said well if you're such a cool pimp and you and you want to just like live off of shit that drake gave me, then why did you destroy the Maybach?

1:16:45Why did you take a baseball bat to the Maybach? It's bullshit. He's trying to present this whole narrative like he's this big, successful streamer, business guru, and meanwhile, he's out here streaming with 100 viewers. He's a total bum. He screwed over Dean the Great. That shit was crazy. We can talk about that, too. No, Sauce, you can't say Adam don't like you, because he said you had 100 viewers, and the other day when I was on Blueface stream, I seen the thing, and it was 72. Hey, by the way, I see what Sauce is doing. I'm going to ignore some of these allegations for the interim, but here's the thing.

1:17:21I think people, and I'm going to caution Sauce, even though Sauce is a pan, I'm pretty sure you got the talk game this and third. What Blueface is doing and streaming, that's why I think he started bringing this relationship problem. Exactly. Blueface's thing is not a, to me, it's not a stream. This is a 24-7 reality show. Yeah. Like, this is next level. I don't know if Sauce could match that, but I think he's trying to step in the water of, okay, I bet y 'all want to see drama with my baby mama? Fine, I'll put that on camera too. I don't know if it works as much when I don't think people would care about his baby mama.

1:17:55Blueface does a great job of building his baby mama. One thing I'll say I was wrong about when Wack told me the opposite, Wack always told me the real star was Blueface. I thought it was Krishan. I get to realize Blueface could build any chick. Like, you find him a homeless chick off the street, she'll be a star in at least four weeks yeah no for sure and i feel like sauce walka is just trying to find anybody that he can leech off of that he can use as like a father figure he's looking at dean the great who's 15 years younger than him like that's who he wants to be and he's so he's taking it to such an extent that he's stealing his song he's uploading it he's lying and gaslighting uh dean and ab trying to act like he didn't know what a collab post was That shit is disgusting.

1:18:40No, it sounds to me like the baby mama, well, not baby mama, the assistant ex-girlfriend is just revealing what all his plays were on people that's supposed to have been his friends. Yo, Ak, did you see the clip of Sasa's assistant, I guess? That's what we're calling fine black women with BBLs. Yeah, I watched that. Yeah, so she's his fine-ass assistant with a BBL, and she's saying that she had to drive all the way to Houston from Houston to LA without being able to listen to YB or Drake. And the way she says it, she's so pissed. And I fucking love that. That's when I met her. There's all these other rappers.

1:19:22There's like a super long blacklist of different artists that you can't listen to if you're hanging out with Sauce Walker. That's so funny. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie. I agree with the No Little Baby in the whip. But I agree with No Future 2. It was No Future 2. You agree with the No Little Baby? Yeah, he don't want to listen to Lil Baby either. Listen, I can't. They know around me. I mean, I don't even hate the songs, but usually they'll turn it off. It's not even about Lil Baby. It's about the people around me respecting me, especially if I'm paying your bills. I'm paying your bills.

1:19:51You better switch that song quick. Anyway, no future, no drink. Yeah, I ain't going to lie to you. We'd probably be listening to jazz. I'd rather be in North Korea, man. Fuck that shit. No, and they drove too. Remember when you drove? I don't want to lie. I've talked to Sauce Walker. His story about those guys is different. He said, Lil Baby's one of the biggest cereal purchases of Panani. He'll make sure them... Basically, guys like Future, even Stefan Diggs, he'll let them go fuck whatever girl. He's getting paid off of it. He don't care. So basically, anytime these rappers, whether it's Future, whoever fucks these girls in Houston, bro, he's getting paid.

1:20:31Yeah, sounds good. I don't know. She's saying a whole other thing. She's saying, I don't know, bro. We might have to look at the bank transfers. If they're cutting Sauce Walker a check, every time they're getting fucked by a celebrity, we got to give him the credit stuff. But you know what the dynamic is? Is that Sauce Walker was a regular old pimp before the digital pivot. And so it's easy to control a bitch when she's barefoot and pregnant and she got three different pimps tattooed on her face. It's easy to control and gaslight and manipulate that type of hoe. Hey, bro, did you just take a shot at my artist?

1:21:08I caught that shit. Whatever. I don't know what you're talking about. But all I'm saying, but once the artist, once the girl becomes famous and she's got hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank, you just can't gaslight them the same way. And Sauce keeps running to the same exact problem over and over and over, which is these girls don't want to deal with him abusing them because they got their own money at a certain point. My biggest worry when it comes to Sauce Walker is one day he's going to drop dead from aneurysm, bro. Yeah, he's stretching. That nigga be screaming crazy. Hey, Wack. Eyes be bulging.

1:21:46That's the person. Wack, I'll tell you, I always got Blueface and Streamer on at the crib. These days, I leave it on like I used to do in Fresh and Fit. I let the girls that be hanging around me know it could always get worse. bro i was i quoted that the other day and my wife did not appreciate it i told her i'm like i was like i'm like you know what ax said is that he leaves the blue face stream on in the crib so the girl knows that it could always be worse and my girl just looks at me like so disgusted that i would even say that i'm about to ask a girl to clean blue faces on the camera asking his pregnant baby mama to clean i'm like yo beautiful blue face is doing like again i ain't gonna lie to you If that was my daughter, I'd probably have to kill Blueface.

1:22:25I don't know how this would happen, but, you know, I would just think it's entertainment only. Yeah, I was hanging out with her parents at the baby shower, and I was really trying to get inside their head and try to understand what they could possibly feel about the dynamic that their daughter finds herself in. Well, you know, listen, Blueface said he made$200K off of Kick. You know, Kick is paying out that bag. Like, I'm pretty sure there's a method to the madness. I'm pretty sure she was homeless before. So, shit, if she likes it, I love it. Yeah, I'm thinking about doing the same thing Sauce Walker doing and just copying Blueface and just start beating my girl, throwing shit at her.

1:23:04Yeah, Blueface ain't beat nobody. He's entertaining. That's the season finale. And we about to go up. Listen, we about to do a 20-day run. We about to do a 20-day run. Blue Girls Club coming back. I'm just waiting for the day. I got everything's approved. We about to go crazy. Can I get some scraps if I pull up? You know what I'm saying? Get a handjob or something? Hey, listen, man. Hey, look. Hey, look. Man, ain't no telling what might happen. And we got, it's a kick-stake combination thing going on, and we going up. You know what I'm saying? And on top of that, once we finish that, then we coming back with the Ray J.

1:23:45You know what I'm saying? I'm putting this. It's called Ray Hab. We're doing a 20-day thing. Are we ever going to get an update on Ray J's health? I'm putting him in Ray Hab. Is that like a rehab? There it go. Well, Lush can go there too then. Yeah, he can pull up. Nice. Yeah, tell Lush, come on. I'm going to give him a hug. Ooh, I like that. A hug and a head butt. A long hug? Hey, we about to finish this stream. I'm going to hit you when I come out. I got this dude just pulled up. He don't wear deodorant. We got to see what's going on. We're not even close to done. Come on. Yeah, I want to bring this dude.

1:24:22Where he go? We got Rios, but we got another up-and-coming streamer. I want to know what he wants to be called. Who the fuck is Rios? Bring Rios in. We got Rios right here. What's going on, Rios? Should he sit next to you? Because he might whip you up. Yeah, I sit over there. All right, what up? Rios, how you living? They told me Rios is - I'm not your stuff there, man. They said Rios is a Sudeno. Hell no. Mm-hmm. You just fell out your mouth. Yeah. Yeah, you can bring it. You're a South Side of Rios? You lie. ain't nobody ain't nobody told you that that's disrespectful you're eating avocado toast when you first meet this guy oh you lose Johnny lose weight yeah you're trying to get in shape you look good right he don't look bad for an old man he gonna look like Bill Bellamy soon what the fuck is that um so Rios what's up man you was interviewing Adam yeah and you was insinuating ooh pop off wax the only problem in the bill mmm it's Tell me how I'm insinuating that.

1:25:17That's what you said. You pretty much said that. You said that. And I'm like, well, I understand what you don't understand because I understand the building. Right? And one thing this building has is the controversy that it has. You see what I'm saying? Which means the building's not a bore. You never know. You always wondering, oh, shit, they're live. Is dude going to pop up? Oh, what's going on? And it keeps the building. But I'm wondering, you was pretty much saying, like, whack me to go. No, no, no, no. And I didn't know that you was trying to come. Wait, wait, wait. You was a hater. This is how I know you lying.

1:25:58You was on your show. Wait, wait, wait. This is how I know you lying. It was your show. Wait. Because in that same sentence, I said, I see how he's the most valuable and how he brings value to the game. But you still said I needed to go. No, I didn't. I never said that. So then he tells me, you from Long Beach, I called the Northside. I called the Babies. I called Brick Boys. I called the SOSs. And I'm trying to figure out where you from. You're going to have to put on some more fingers on there because you ain't said the right one yet. I'm just asking. Do some Googles. You didn't ask the right ones.

1:26:37So you Are you from a black gang? I'm from I was born at Long Beach Memorial Eastside Long Beach Born and raised To this day Are you just from Long Beach? Yeah You're not from a set in Long Beach He's not trying to gangbang on a podcast That's not gangbanging It's not gangbanging He's from a set But I'm not trying to add 10 to 12 years on any case I get either Exactly I mean at the end of the day bro It's gonna be like Lil Durk Your homie gonna tell me He's not ordering any bodies I'm never gonna be on no goober shit like that Huh? So See, you're dangerous. See, I'll see you. We don't know if you got your gothic shit going on.

1:27:11We don't know if you're Armenian or something. How's he gothic? He's dressed like Hootie and the Blowfish. But we don't know what the fuck is going on. We don't know. He got a hardy outside with no rims on it. I'm trying to figure it out. And then I just leave over there. And I ask him, I say, yo, bro, what's up with this Rios dude? They said, bro, we fucked with him, but he just had bad hygiene. They lying. I never noticed that. Yeah, no one ever said it. Ain't nobody on earth ever said that. So why'd they kick you out? Out of what? FMW? Yeah. Or back on Fig? Out of that? What up? How many times have you seen me over there?

1:27:47No, I didn't really. I seen you now that I see you, but I didn't really know. I didn't really know, you know. I don't really know you. But if I was a part of that, you would see me. But you was a part of that. No, I wasn't. I was on Ace Boys. Me and Pond are brothers. Oh, you and Pond. Okay. Me and Pond are brothers. Manny, Fred, we're brothers. So you left? I left Ace Boys because I did two years of Friday nights. Like, I got a family. I'm a family man. I'm a husband. I've been married 16 years. But Friday nights was like what, like 10 to midnight? Midnight, like 10 to 2 sometimes. And so, you know.

1:28:22Why the f***ing man did you do that? He's a married man. They had girls shaking ass on him. No, no, no. He's catching wind of BBL's yuck. Which was cool. That was cool? It was cool. It was cool. It was fun. It was cool. but it was just like nigga you can only do that for so long you know what I mean like and then what's the money what's the money like it was no look at this none of this shit would be happening right now if it wasn't for pun and Ace Boys Worldwide I wouldn't be here sitting here talking to you you're okay so it was more it was more than worth it you know what I mean and then also being able to do something with your brothers and support each other and do that it would never have to be anything besides beyond a question like hey can you come do this yeah Yeah, easy.

1:29:05I think he's a good fit. I think he's like the voice of reason. I'm the voice of reason. No, you aren't. Nobody can be more reasonable than me. You're coming from my spot right there. I don't with that. No, no, no. You're the asshole. No, you're like the voice of reason. I'm like the AI. I can fact check everybody. You're the asshole. You're the anchor. Yeah. Anchorman. You're the anchor shit right down on the table. You know what I'm saying? So, like, what I'm saying is if you got three, four motherfuckers in the room and it's going crazy, he's always going to be the kind way. And that's why the other day when he started telling Doughboy how bad Doughboy has been f***ing up, it was like.

1:29:47But he got accepted. I felt like it hit so much different than me saying it because I think Doughboy is able, with me, he's able to say, like, oh, it's kind of like he's doing content. He's performative. He's just talking shit. Doughboy don't know who the f*** he want to be. Yeah. He don't know who he want to be. Well, I think he does know who he wants to be. And he tries to be everybody's friend too much. He's a people pleaser. Yeah. I think he knows what he wants to be, and it's just not really what in actuality he is in any way. No matter what you want to be, as a man, you got to have a base.

1:30:19You got to have a foundation of what you stand on. No matter what, you want to be whatever label you want to give the brother or whatnot, at the end of the day, bottom line, foundation, you have to stand as a man and stand up for yourself. Your name's going in the s*** title. Oh, my God. That's what I was saying. Don't joke about that. I ain't joking. Dude is what? Let me tell you something. Even saying that on the camera is insane. I'm telling you straight up. Watch, dude. Oh, my God. Listen. Watch it. I don't think he's the type to do the bullshit. You got bullshit and just s***. Can you not say the word s*** 80 times in a row?

1:30:55I'm not allowed to say. That's way crazy. That was crazy. Dude will sit there and he will really get depressed about this because he wants so bad to be in the in crowd of this. And if he feels he can't find it and the so-called boss isn't giving him recognition, he's a letdown and he's the type of dude that will do it. I'm telling you. Okay, maybe we could not turn this podcast into polymarket. for people killing themselves. I've been doing a nigga longer than all of y 'all. This isn't Kalshi. Sorry. We're not calling out super f***s. No. But what he's saying is kind of valid. I brought him on my show the next day, just randomly, and whatever happened that morning, I brought him on and just like basically tried to just let him vent and sit down and just tell him like, dude, you just got to get your s*** together on your own.

1:31:51It was a good one, man. He's a good comedian. He's like a good person, and he'll get it together, man. I'm going to try to do something for him You're trying to get him on TDE I love that idea That's a great idea I don't dislike him What I just said to you, you may not want to hear it But it's real Because I know it's real Yeah, for that reason, I'll call in the favor I think Doe Boy could write for Doe Chi Well, I don't know about all that Maybe they could just do a song together I know he likes to comment you know the shit and bro got you know what I mean and I know he's looking to be part of something for whatever reason you know what I'm saying and every circle he goes to it kind of ends the same way not ends like wild and out I felt bad for him because he told us that we were like the only group chat he in okay this nigga like 40 some years old 47 we got to introduce our new guest I know this nigga from somewhere I know this nigga I've met him before Where?

1:32:55I've been to his studio. I brought him here. Look, I've been in his studio when True Car was there. Look, you had True Car when you first signed True Car. I brought him here. You don't remember anybody unless they're famous. I brought him here, bro. And he lives in the city where I'm here. You don't remember I brought him here? He'd be the Lincoln Cancer Pond. That's not Flock to Ball. No, this is the singer that dissed Chris Brown, right? Oh, shit. That's Kevin McCall. That's Kevin McCall, right? Wow. You not Kevin McCall? No. Oh, shit. I thought it was Kevin McCall. What the ? I just started saying, I'll skeet.

1:33:26Uncle's clip farming. Hey, you owe me dinner. You owe me dinner. I'll remember this, but I don't. He definitely been in the studio. Shouts to Kevin McCall. But you know what? Hey, on the late night, motherfucker drunk, you might think you him. Bro, no. Let me give you a story about how I know this man. Let me bring this shit. Bring up Kevin McCall. Let me know. Let me show you how I met this man. No, it was not no nice scene. I didn't just meet him. I pulled up to his studio. I was with Spank Nitty and my guy, J. Luck. Spangnini was coming over to the record. When he just started with True Car or whatever.

1:33:58Okay. We pulled up to the studio. I pulled in the back. Wait, I was in the Alpha Lomaro. And then I pulled out. Oh, yeah. And you had the... You and your big-ass security came out and had things on. I'm coming. Extend those. Bro, 357s. Call back. Bro. And then someone said I had one. Yo, bro, you hear what he said he did? I had one in the back. You had more pulls than you. Six. I sit there. And then I pull up. And then pulls out. What did you do? They tell me like this. Hey, Unc said, don't pull in the back like that. Don't pull in. So I have to hurry up and speed out. I got an Alfa Romero. So I pull out and I park across the street.

1:34:37And then doubles back. Yeah, that's spooky. Four sheds. Four tools out the shed. Four Bob the Builder tools. Hey, bro. Wow. I got one. Hello. This is going in the indictment. I got one. I'm going to put this in the indictment for sure. I'm like, bro, I only can get one of them. Look, listen. Listen. At least you know you was in the same place. Yeah. Bro, after that, he's like, oh. Oh, why you didn't say that was you? He put me down. Now, why say once you get in the studio, right? It was safe. You see the monitors everywhere. It was cool. So now you see it like, okay, these guys see you. He put us in the back.

1:35:12Yeah, it was cool. It was a vibe after that. But it was nothing nice meeting this, man. Don't ever think that it was cool. I can never. I don't know what be going on over the internet. What you doing these days, man? But, man, look. Look, I've been streaming. I've been streaming really, really hard. You're on Twitch or? No, kick, kick, kick, kick. I've been the hottest underground streamer. And I'm going to just tell you like this. The streaming world ain't what it is. The streaming world is not what it is. I went to every party, and these streamers are rappers, and they are this cosplay. So who's fake?

1:35:47Sauce Walker? I'm not going to hold you. That's a good point. I'm going to be real because I have respect for him, even though, you know, whatever happened. Why do you say that about AB? Boy, that shit ain't cool. AB was cool. It was Dean. Oh. And I love Dean. Shit. I think Dean got the corrupt narrative from Sauce that made him think you were some weirdo. Bro. Y 'all got into it? Twice. Who you got into it with? What? You didn't? With who? Sauce or Dean? No. Dean kicked me out twice. Not once, but twice. He kicked me out first from the compound. I brought four women and he kicked me out. You're running in now.

1:36:23That compound they are now. You know what I'm saying? I be hearing kill cubs, fuck cubs, hate cubs. I'm from NSA. I'm from Long Beach. I'm a media. Oh, now I remember this nigga here. This is what it is. A past that P. Nice girl. Oh, yeah. Oh, we got to talk about that. Wait, hold on. Hold on that. He just said, yeah. That's what I said. And it was a justified gap. But we got to table that. We got to keep talking about demigrating stuff. Table that. I'm going off of this is real this will be real when did California trauma become cosplay recently who's cosplaying as a traumatized Californian I'm just saying there's streamers that say kill cubs who the f*** is did he f*** and I have I just got out of prison in June last year no I was just gonna say you put on some weight yeah I did I've been doing push-ups sit-ups He was slimmer back then.

1:37:22Do you hear me? So you think Dean the Great Crippin' a little too much for somebody who's not formally Crippin'? I don't think none of them aren't Crippin'. They're not. But he's saying come more than almost any Crip you ever met. But they're cosplaying the trauma of our past. My mom started insane. My dad did 15 years when I was 5 years old, so I never... And back then, you didn't have prop, 57 prop, this and that. So he did the whole thing. So when he got out when I was 20, it felt like boys in the hood. I don't know you I'm glad I'm glad they're not playing with that the homies with a trip they was playing with that blood shit wow the homies with a trip so what I'm saying that's a fact and I'm being real I'm being really transparent and I want to know like so when I come in right as a Californian that been out here my whole life right then inherit I'm a crip I'm a banger if you don't know the politics if me and you ain't beefing we supposed to be transparent with each other right off the rip that's just how i go if i'm not in la county i'm in long beach and that's a big line long beach is la county but i'm saying it's a long way it's out okay it's all this outskirts no it's not it is long it's not la proper la county is not la city it's the last city in la county but we say Long Beach, Pomona, Calabasas, Rosemont.

1:38:47L.A. County is made of 88 cities. No, Rosemont is North Cal. No, Rosemont is the last city. L.A. County includes Chatsworth. Two counties after Calabasas. Y 'all is Orange and then it's San Bernardino County, Pomona. So you guys are L.A. County, but you're the city of Long Beach. If you walk up in the function saying you're from L.A. and you're from Chatsworth, then people are going to have some issues with that. Chatsworth is L.A. County, too. You are lying, even though it's L.A. County. Listen to me. Listen to me. And I tell you this. Inglewood nigga ain't gonna never say L.A. A Compton nigga ain't gonna never say L.A.

1:39:17A Long Beach nigga. No other city's gonna say L.A. But a L.A. nigga. Yeah. You're gonna say L.A. nigga. Right. That's why when I be telling people, I'm like, look, bro. But there's a line, though. There's politics around everything that's going on. We understand that. But when we say we're going to Procarma, we're not about to say, oh, yeah, we're about to go to the O.V. Cheese over here. No, he's going to Procarma. We're going to Procarma. So you know. So don't do that.

1:39:42is it Blood Nation, where you can go all the way to Detroit, and it is Sioux Woo. So when I say that. You think that's the same thing with Crippen. Shit across the globe. So check where I'm coming at. The cosplaying of what I got stocked for. But he's profiting. But he ain't from nowhere. Why are you checking? But with the camera, I tried to, and he got six, seven security. You tried to check it. I know me that's shaking my hand because I try to scream. I'm not about to scream over nobody's podcast or their stream. I'm not about to do that because that's when I came there. That's proper etiquette.

1:40:14I want to come as a gentleman. Yeah. I learned from you. This nigga full of shit right now. Oh, wow. This nigga full of shit right now. No, no. When I say I learned from Malkin, how you bring it... Listen, I watched multiple interviews of you. I watched multiple interviews. Did you feel the way Blueface felt? Because Blueface felt like they family. Yeah, bro. I felt Blueface felt the way he felt after I felt the way I felt. Because I went on P. Nice and talked about it and that went viral right after. and I went on back on fig. What did P-Nights have to say about... Let's get... Well, hold on.

1:40:44But do you feel like... Because, okay, there's a thing with streamers where if you're a big streamer, if you're Dean and AB right now or whatever, they look at everybody at a certain point as basically being clout chasers and people trying to get their emotion or whatever because the reality is... That's how they see people. Especially if you are an IRL streamer, it's just like everybody is trying to get your clout. Everybody's just trying to, like, come through You can't look at it that way, you know why? Because you need everybody for your stream. You do, but you want to be the one choosing who you're going to have on your stream because realistically you know that if you give somebody light, that's more beneficial to them if they're a small content creator.

1:41:24And then meanwhile it's worse for them. They could go potentially watch that person. They're not trying to make people famous by accident. So do you feel like they were being dickheads or big-headed on that shit or on some just like general animosity towards a random black dude? Like, it becomes where there's emotion mixed with consequences. I feel both of those collide with where, because it's emotional. If you look in the video, if you ever seen anything that I posted of him, every time I come around, it's uncomfortable. And that's not to even talk about this. It's like, every time I come around, it's uncomfortable.

1:41:59So put yourself in my shoes for a second. You walk in somewhere, you from this city. You hear somebody saying, cuz, cuz, cuz, cuz, cuz, cuz, cuz, cuz. So I feel like I relate to you. Where you from, nigga? First and foremost, where are you from? And if you are from somewhere, I could call in on anybody you're from because I'm from Long Beach. And there's a guideline between Long Beach, between the Valley, and between L.A. I don't care what you're saying. We all are the same county. But at the end of the day, it's lines that are gone. Pomona too. Pomona like that too. Yes. And let's be real. We're Pomona too.

1:42:34Because I've been out there with the ghost towns and all that. But you know what I mean? I understand. So where? I thought Dean was from 60s. No, no, I talked to them. He's not. What it is, is your like. What you think he'll do? When anybody see somebody got more like to them and that can beat them, there's an insecurity there. There's an insecurity there. And when fake sees realness, they want that shit as far away from him as possible. So do you feel that I was challenging his authenticity by me being in there? Your natural energy challenged him. Your natural energy, your east side challenged him.

1:43:06He ain't got that. and when you walk in a place motherfuckers notice that shit from a distance we all know that's a nice way it was from he never told me but that's that's a nice way to put it but also i think in reality is that dean is looking at it like this guy might be a crazy fan no because they weren't they weren't introduced to you in an appropriate way if if it had been hey this is my friend this is so-and-so he's cool with me he's a good guy like you when you introduce like a person to a famous person right a lot of times you have to like kind of basically like restate their resume in order to make it like hey little baby this is not just a fan this is this is a dude this is a guy you should give a f**k about i want to challenge that because we say he's everybody from us even me and you 6-0 but he hangs out with k boy he ain't got we're moving so we can't say that but He's not a real 6-0 member, right?

1:44:01He just got in my comments, and that's my homie, talking about, oh, you look like you following him. It might be weird. I had to send him motherfucking credential. P-Nice hangs out with him. These are moving cars. This is moving. You know better. Come on, yeah. No, it ain't that. It's had a factor of your cosplaying, because when I came in, I should never be a threat. I came with four women the first time you kicked me out. Oh, so you was on your low-key shit. I was low-key. I pulled up with women because women said, hey, we going over here. You think he kind of underestimated you? Rather, I think that's what it was.

1:44:39And instead of correcting yourself, I felt that this is just my opinion, and I'm obligated to it, that AB recognized that that's why the second time he did that, what did he do? Get up to him. AB stood up to me. He stood up because he wanted to make sure his narrative looked good at the end. But the first, the perception is everything. And you can deceive what you perceive. Right. But you cannot, with this streaming shit, you cannot cut anything that's live. We gonna cut it. We gonna paint the picture. So, I didn't know what you said back there. But it's on stream. Mm-hmm. Oh, why is he here? I don't even know this man like that.

1:45:21I know you from the first day I met you from hanging out because you called us to summon some women. But you know what the weird dynamic with that is, is that when you have like a content house or a place like this or whatever, that is a dynamic that will happen is that you're doing content, you're doing the 20 versus one, you're doing a podcast with a bunch of girls or whatever. And four hot chicks come in, they got one dude with them. We don't question that in California. But it's kind of like a decision to make because if you're a big headed egotistical content creator, you're kind of thinking like, how do I neutralize this guy?

1:45:55Maybe I'll just kick this motherfucker out. We got the girls already. Let's get them the fuck out of here. You don't go to the same when you left? No. They left with me. You love, dude. Understand where I'm coming from. This is California energy and you in California. I'm just like trying to explain their motivation. I'm not saying that this actually happened. They muster seat somewhere where you're not going to go. They threw your muster seat on some rocks. Hey, listen. Let me tell you something. I'm going to tell you what they was talking about. Talk to me, brother. They misread you, bro. You think so?

1:46:22I'm going to tell you why they misread. See, I know you, right? Right. Right. You went in there with your proper shit as like some people would see it like your ism shit. Right. You were on stream? You had your guy filming you? I was on the stream trying to pick the team. I think that probably made them feel weird too, man. And they reread the ism as some soft shit. Right. You hear what I'm telling you? I know. I pick up what you said. So when motherfuckers don't know a motherfucker, right, we know how to read a motherfucker and say, okay, bro, he on his ism shit. But they read you like you wasn't right shit.

1:46:56So he played what you think about it. If you would have came in on some cripping shit, dude wouldn't have played with you like that. If you would have came in on the light. So wait, you talking about the first time or the second time? The first time. The first time. Because the second time, I got kicked out of Rampage shit. That's the hating part. The first time. I'm telling you. If he would have went. I'm with B, man. If he would have went in. The Crash Out Boys are all. If you would have went in, bro, on your baby shit. That's fucked up. I'm telling you, bro. Yo, the whole time they never searched it, I didn't sign on NBA and all that.

1:47:28Hear me out. I know you, nigga. And I'm going to tell you some shit, right? A person that don't know you, that don't come from this, I'll read you and think you funny. Nah, I just met him outside. I just met him outside right now. Read his energy immediately. Nigga, you from Long Beach. You don't fucking count. You from Long Beach, nigga. You hear that shit? Bussy. But y 'all got him paying cosplay with shit that your homie that you argue with on every podcast about. Y 'all do that. No, I ain't just see it. Oh, you don't blame it on our culture. See, that's what I'm saying. He can't even do it to me.

1:48:02Who's us? You know what? Now I'm going to put the Crippin' on trial. I'm going to put the Crippin' on trial. You know who be around them? And if I would have called you, I know then when you were around. I'm going to put the Crippin' on trial. Talk to me. As a Dammu, they can't even do that to me. Because I'm going to say, nigga, you ain't no Crip. Nigga don't cause me. You ain't no Crip, nigga. So Dean the Great can't say cuz to you? No, they not Crips. This is not. Now, if DW around, and I got my real Kiway niggas around, and we talking and they talking, I know they Crips. You're gonna have fun with it.

1:48:31Right? It's not a problem. But I'm not finna. I'm a real West Coast motherfucker. I don't like people playing with our shit. So y 'all over there, because it's Dean, y 'all letting it slide. Instead of, you should have just went viral and checked it. Ooh. That would have been cold That would have been cold And then hit it with y 'all always in it with On insane And you can't beat me Now can I say something

1:49:01Everybody was going to be watching Now check me out Now let me say this with the most prestige Because I was not trying to oppose a threat In a world that I'm trying to enter in You're a streamer, you're the top As of kick Mike Tyson was the top too and went to sleep. Y 'all doing y 'all shit, but you got to understand he got seven, eight security. What that mean? He got seven, eight. No, no, no, no. Take me out though. What that mean? I just got out of prison. So you said - I know the cause, I didn't give an installment plan of eight years of the prison system. So if I know - I can't hear you.

1:49:35So I know whatever I do, gonna do what it's gonna do on me. The after effects of the perception that I'm giving them, and I know when you clip me, I got to make sure that I don't lose endorsements or whatever's going to happen in my near future. So I'm thinking about my future because I didn't think about my near future. You read this shit wrong. I never. You read this wrong. I should have said, you bitch ass, I hate you. No, but if you're wanting to make it as a content creator and you like. Gotta be a risk taker. Like they do kind of want you to crash out. They want you to crash. They want you to crash on some not that significant shit.

1:50:09Like if they think like, oh, we're going to get gang banged on by, if this fool comes around, that's a little bit of a different type of energy. That is a big liability of you trying to be a streamer because a lot of these streamers realistically have no street background. They don't want to be around that kind of shit. Here goes the difference. A lot of them, because Dean them is winning, are hating on Dean. So they don't want to be around you anyway. Okay, but look at this. Let's look at this. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no. Blue just did this. Blue just did this. And so look. What? Blue face has shown that acting real and being who you are is way more viral than a motherfucker trying to be something.

1:50:44You see how they trying to push liquor, push all my bitches. All that shit is fake. Being rude. We ain't doing that. Being a real just a crip and being how he is and this and that, it's a whole different energy. And motherfuckers. Look, Blueface is everywhere. I swear to God. Blueface that took over Dean's shit. Do you hear what Blue? Blueface. Blueface. I'm telling you. Dean is Dean. A-B is A-B. But he only went through a couple times, right? And I'm about to be there on Friday with my nigga Blue. When he got in the ring and all that shit. Me and my brothers, we'll be there. Blueface is. I will.

1:51:12But the Dean, that warehouse, they're not doing that anymore, right? Yeah, they got that warehouse for a year. It's over with what they were doing, but they're still going to be utilizing it. Can I ask you a question, Adam? And you too. This is real life. All right. I have a physical proof. I know one of the models that got invited to one of their blind date shows on that Tuesday. And I got invited to Rampage's Taco Tuesday. When I looked on the stream, Dean was in Miami and motherfucking AB was out here at the warehouse. Boom. So I didn't think they weren't going to be there because AZ and my nigga Jair, shout to all the best promoters in the motherfucking Hollywood, they do their thing in LA County.

1:51:56I love them. But I already knew where they was going to be. So I tried to avoid any type of confrontation. I'm like, okay, Rampage, because the streaming world is small. That's the top tier. The streaming world is not small. It's a cool kid club. They're on our algorithm because they're out here. And guess what? I'm out here. So that's why I'm on everybody else's algorithm. You understand? And as soon as they diss somebody that's from California, it automatically - No, I ain't going to do that out, but - That's what it did. Because if you just saw the second video, pull up my second video. I think that y 'all - So you let the nigga violate you?

1:52:31No, he did not. Bro, I had to see it from the video. So when you saw it, I couldn't go back in and get some security. But when you saw it, was you upset with your performance? I'm not even going to hold you. I'm not upset. I'm more of disappointed because not only are we both, you know, we're black, you know, descended, whatever it is you want to call it, but this world is small and they're acting, they're cosplaying rappers. You know how close I am to your neighborhood. You know, I always tell people, I always tell people that's one of the most disciplined neighborhoods out here. So if you telling me Seven Securities was acting that way you know one text a hundred insane is going to pull up.

1:53:11Right and that's the thing about it. Now I can't win. Yeah because then what am I doing this for? It would be a good moment but it's going to f*** your motion up. It's going to f*** everything up. I wouldn't even be here. Yeah then all of a sudden I started thinking hell no he pulling up with a hundred crips. He don't give a f***. Travis Ford. This is LA County J. Travis Ford. He gonna bring a cake. He gonna look at it now. Don't bring a cake. He gonna look at it now. But then for the future relevance, he was like, fuck him. I hate him. I'm gonna love the clip, but I'm not gonna be like, pull up.

1:53:42You know what I want you to be able to do? Every time I did listen, I went to - I got his talk. Let's be real. He always cool with me. But yo, you know how to do it yourself. Tell him what you go about for the record. Hey, what's up, man? I'm Willie Beeman, Beeman Gomez. There you go. WB-2-3, M-I-N. That is on Instagram That's on kick I need y 'all to follow in That's a real name over there For the win You hear me I'm with my cousin I'm with my twin We gonna do it in That's a real last name over there Alright so can we talk about Gatgate Gat You talking about Gat He violated P-Nice's woman Hey no he Hey listen He violated me I mean he was crazy And I wouldn't He exposed me to that He didn't prepare He didn't give me A trigger warning He didn't prepare He was like Hey hold on Because When he told my wife in there.

1:54:28This might f*** you up. My girl about to come in here. Chill. Think about it. Bro, how many people you got to correct? I'm like that. Be real. How many people you got to correct and tell them, hey, don't. My wife is. They know her. But with you, you were like, whoa. I got thrown off. I feel it. I can't blame you. That's on my soul. I was thrown. Listen. What throw you off? What he asked you? What threw you off? God! I wouldn't have tripped. My woman got ass. And let's just say, I wouldn't have tripped. R &B and her would get along. I wouldn't have tripped. R &B and her would look good together in f***ing.

1:55:13Look at this shit. Look, bro. Get tight. I've seen it. He's a man of God, dog. I'm a man of God. Yeah! Yeah, I

1:55:30We're not gonna be biased you're married and we're not gonna disrespect your wife. That's why you're like cut off stupid

1:55:38Hey, my wife is here Come here boogie see see the scene she is always some nice This is my wife. God! Relax. And then P-Nice pretends to like... He got mad. He was pissed, but he didn't really want to jump out the window, but he was pissed. He didn't want to say nothing, but he had to say something. He was so mad. Here goes the thing, bro. Unless you're Munchie B, you know what you... No, he ain't never seen her before. That's not a second time seeing her. I've never seen her in my life. No, what I'm saying is, that's what I'm saying. I did not cut in a way. P. Nice knows what his woman looks like.

1:56:26Right, right, right. So you got to know what niggas respond. If you don't look at, if you look at, see my wife's ass, and you don't take a double look, I'm going to think you gay as a mother. I thought he was going to take it as a compliment. Like, ah, you see that? Yeah. You like that? God! I thought you were going to say that. So once he said that, you see my art for like, I apologize. It was a great moment. It was a great moment. Yeah, it wasn't disrespectful though. And this is why he's f***ed up though, is because he can see her for a little bit and he doesn't say nothing. The moment she gets on camera, he goes, yeah.

1:57:08And that's him having a dialogue with the audience. And that's why Pete Nice is pissed. is because you were not having a conversation with P. Nice. You were talking to the audience, which I fuck with from a content creation perspective. But I understand why he's pissed because you know who you are right there? You ever watch The Office? Yeah. You know how something fucked up, Dwight will do something crazy, and then Jim will look at the camera and just be like, that's what you were doing. You were communicating with the home. He's at home. Listen, no disrespect to my brother. I love you, but it's like when it kind of booty like that, I didn't know.

1:57:42Oh, he hit the dead pool talking to the camera like, but look. This all happened, bro. He's getting excited right now. He's fouled. He's fouled. He got a clip. Bro, he got a 70-inch right by the door, and the camera's right for the door. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm looking at the door, and there's a camera. Right on the scene. And it just comes right there, and it just like boom, bow, boom, bow. I don't know it. Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, boom, bow. You had the freeze dance? Hold on. Hold on. You better cut it out. Stop. I didn't know. P-Night's going to make a phone call. At any given moment, P-Night's going to come here.

1:58:16I told your ass, cut it out. But I like the moment, though, because both of y 'all, the apology and then the way he stood up for his wife, and it was just like a good moment for the culture. He stood up, man. He didn't do nothing wrong. Did you end the podcast right after that? He did. And then it was a weird vibe? No, he did that. No, it was. It was weird. It was weird as fuck. It was weird. Because he was like, man, that's my wife, bro. And I had to keep saying, like, bro, I apologize. My bad. I didn't know you was going to do that. He should know his wife. You got to warm my eyes, bro. I'm single.

1:58:45Here's the polite version of what you did. As if you said, yo, man, congratulations. You got a beautiful wife. But people are saying you're not supposed to say that no more. Yeah, they said that. I'm saying that. I think that Byron Way was just talking about that. Byron was just talking about that. That's what my dad would say. My dad would be like, hey, congratulations, Rios. You have a beautiful wife. You can't say that. Not yet. Bro, if they got it like that, it was an accident. I didn't mean that. But if somebody did that to my wife, that's why I married her. But you ain't married, so you don't really know what.

1:59:16Yeah. There's all kinds of different. I'm assuming she's not like an IG model. That's the difference between me and a lot of people is that, yeah, everybody looked at her on the internet. I don't know. If your girl is. I've never met her. I'm assuming she's kind of more of a normal chick. That was my first time. I didn't know that she went to Miami, Dominican Republic. I didn't know her from McKinney. I didn't even look at this lady. What do you mean she went there for what? It threw me off. I never. What do you mean she went to Miami, Dominican for what? To do squats and work out. She might have a trainer out there.

1:59:45Oh, you're saying she got a BBL. You think that's augmented? I didn't even. I didn't say that. That's not what he said. He said the Dominican Republic. To work out. Work out. Well, that's a good place to party. Why would you go to the DR to work out? They have great gyms. You go there to get surgeries, bro. Great trainers, great food. Miami, you go to get surgeries. I'm telling you. Look at him. Go back to his face. What the fuck? Where did it go? Go back to his page now. Yo, so if he got that up, go back. Slide down. Slide down. Feel free to scroll through P. Nights' Instagram. If he got that up, bro, look, I put pictures of my woman up all the time.

2:00:19Don't show that, buddy. If you go to P. Nights' Instagram, you're going to instantly know what we're talking about. Bro, nigga on the set. Don't you ever, man. Don't you ever, bro. That's the homie. I'm tripping. Nigga on the set. Don't you ever. If you putting that up, you can't be tripping. He's not putting it up on the no jumper platform, though. No, that's his Instagram. The homie ain't never been out there. That's his IG. You can't be tripping. He ain't never been there. And I'm speaking from a guy that put that type of shit up. He can't put that type of stuff up. And then get mad at the comments.

2:00:52So do you think he would be offended putting that up here? Why? No, he can't. It's up for the world. We know where you went. I don't want to show it because of the context of this conversation. Nigga, it would be a little awkward. He knows he's never been in the Dominican Republic. Bro, bro, bro. Bro, listen. So with your wife, I can talk about it. One mic, one mic, one mic. With your wife, you cool. You know she's beautiful. You know she's got what's going on. So you expect it. I don't tell you. I don't give a fuck. His girl, dummy cheeked up. I don't give a fuck. Bro, if you're gay. Wow. If you don't.

2:01:26That's the rule. That's what you want to happen. You got that. That's what you want. He got that good down south home cooking. Listen, Mississippi, crooked butter. I give a nigga two looks. Look, this is how it works. When you see it, I'm a human. I know he's going to take the second look. On the second look is when you probably realize what you didn't realize the first look. You're going to realize it's a man there. Now, after the second look, then it's a problem. But other than that, I know what the fuck I got. I got one piece of advice for you in regards to me. Don't kick the bucket early. Oh, I ain't went wrong.

2:02:04Because I'm not. Our friendship is out. As soon as you're gone, it's out the window. Adam, you got to remember, Adam. I'm in there. Adam, she's been so molded from who she was in the B to where if I did kick the bucket, she up anyway. I think she want to try the French vanilla. Who? The French vanilla? Bro, Adam, you got to remember, you know black women laugh at you because they know you want to be a nigga? Yeah, that's kind of like my whole charming thing. It's like, oh, he thinks he's one of us. It's so cute. And I'm waiting for your wife to hit you in the head. I'm trying to put some dick in there before that really gets in.

2:02:38Man, I wish I had a black woman like that for a wife. No, you don't. This fool be saying that, bro. No, you don't. He says that. I'll be like, yo, either his wife is super cool or she don't hear that shit. No, you don't. Hear what? When you say, I wish I had a black woman like that for a wife. She knows. She knows. I kind of actually respect the whole wifey and the whole marriage type of thing. But it'd be like, if you don't have relationships like you guys do. Well, he ain't letting anybody pipe his girl, sadly. Yeah, that's the phrase. That sucks. Because you are a f***ing beast. You let anybody freak of the week.

2:03:07Yeah. It wasn't about anybody. The top 10 male porn stars in the world. He didn't talk about it like it's just some random Tom f***ing Harry. He's worse than Frosty. No, but he's just talking about comics. You're worse than Frosty. Frosty lets random Mexicans on Figueroa f*** his girl in their car you're worse than him shout out Frosty you're worse than my cousin Siwo and that's why he gotta take out his anger on the Pokemon cards he does some things like that I'd be like why but you love her and he'd be like no I don't y 'all just do certain things that's not there's a big difference between letting J-Mac have a turn with your girl so you can make hundreds of thousands of dollars on OnlyFans and letting this guy, f*** your girl, in his car on fig.

2:03:53I'm just saying. Let's talk. I'm just saying you would probably f*** your girl in your car on fig. That's$75. If he had some money burning a hole in his pocket, he might be on fig. That's a lie. Him with the Eddie Guerrero cut. Oh, God. That's a quick$150. Nah, nah. He probably got some girls on fig right now. He said$150. He's marketing. No, I'm looking at the shoes. That's$150. So what's your numbers look like? That's$150. Oh, look, I'm not even going to hold you. Because I've been going down for, I've been streaming for 30 days, right? And I put a 38 plan down. I already have a distribution sponsorship from Cali Plug.

2:04:31Thank you. Let's go. They give me, they throw it in my hand like it belonged to me. The people you be having on there. I have, as far as my viewers like, probably like 15, 30. I'm not even going to hold you. I'm not, I'm not monetizing. 15 ,000? No, no, no. 15 to 30. Look how viral I am. All 15 to 30. That's what happens when you don't buy viewers is you might have 30 viewers. That's vicious, though. Do you hear that? That's vicious. And you're hardworking. You's outside as hot as a motherfucker and you stream it. Every day I'm outside. I do this shit for real. And I want to put this in people here.

2:05:00I want y 'all to understand this. It's not hard to stream. As blacks, we do it. Bullshit. No, because as blacks, we turn that camera on when the police pull us over. We ain't got nothing wrong with us. So I'm just telling you. That's not to be most. I want this to be cultural. But I want y 'all to know. Is it risky for you to be out and about streaming, given that you're really from somewhere? This is my utmost respect. That's why I'm telling y 'all, this world is so small, I get into anywhere from streaming because people don't want to look bad on camera. Girls don't want to look bad on camera.

2:05:35Men don't want to look bad on camera because it's live. Once they know that you're streaming, especially if you have a camera on you or somebody's holding your camera, they learn to fucking change their whole tone. I see this all the time. Girls act more aggressive. Men act more like passive. Rob Markman - Wait, when the camera's rolling, the girls are more aggressive? Rob Markman - They're aggressive. Rob Markman - Oh shit. Rob Markman - Because if they feel they don't look good, they don't want to be in your camera. Rob Markman - If you talk shit, they're going to talk shit back. They're going to try to protect their self because it's emotion.

2:06:03As a man, we think of the pivotal point of, I want to look good off the dribble. So a man, I ran into security. I done run into doorman. then they don't want to get looking like a weirdo because they don't know who they're dealing with. So they automatically going to fold. As far as women, you got to protect their image. That's why you have all these streamers beefing with women because the women are going to stand their ground. And men, we want to stand in the back like, ooh, I'm chilling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Put me out there. The women don't. So that's why these things invite girls to a point that they're depleting all the women that they're around because you disrespected all of them.

2:06:42And as you see, every streamer has somewhere to go. And as me being a popular underground streamer out here, you know what I'm saying, it gives me a lot of leverage. But then when I come around, I didn't reach the goal, the pinnacle of where I'm around people like that, that I'm getting invited by Instagram models and high-end people. And then when I get in there, I'm disregarded or thrown in the trash by the people that are mimicking my culture. I was just talking about that shit So you get it So you feel like We have an epidemic of people that are like Copying LA culture Yes cosplay Imagine being on trauma Not only for monetizing But if you're saying Or if you even like so much out of a blue rag You said that's like cosign I feel like that argument ain't gonna go that far No it does it goes very far Because at the end of the day we have people That understand that's a business mind like myself that understands the point of just like no no disrespect for my boy dusto but he's selling cuz shorts an awful lot of cuz shorts they're wearing it right when he kicked me out you what he had that on cuz really if you go look at my string i've seen like awful lot of fairs if you're gonna look it said no but look at when they kicked me out it have cuz on the back you know what's so disrespectful and that's just I'm going to be real.

2:08:08I'm going to be real. Hold on. Don't change the subject. Why is it disrespectful like Dub is from out here? No. I ain't changing the subject. Nigga, you lucky you didn't get DP when you got back over there. Do you understand? You don't make it tripping over there. Nigga, they had a day with a... Did he let a what? Well, what? He let a motherfucking non-crip... You supposed to blow them... He got a nigga kick him out of something. And then used the cripping and he not a crip. He got a cuss on. And then he didn't crash. You didn't get him going on? Listen, I got extended family over there, right?

2:08:44He lucky. You know I'm telling the truth. I'm not lying. His ass didn't get over there, nigga. Think about how I feel. They kicked him out and didn't say, you got cubs on the back of your shorts. I'm from the same crib. You kicked me out. And if you see the video, I'm like, hey, bro, I want no smoke. Cubs, what? You're not from nowhere out here. You're supposed to get off. I'm supposed to jeopardize everything. This is what they were going to tell you. This is what they were going to tell you. This is what they were going to tell you. They're streaming. They're going to tell you. You telling me the streaming come before this cripping?

2:09:14Every time. That's where they going. Every time. Look, all it's going to be is on insane. On is, get out of here. They tripping. Get out of here. They tripping. You got to go. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You lucky they ain't DP your motherfucking ass. I got multiple calls. I got multiple calls because it's like, is you is the streaming is your future pretty much for me it's like is your future big enough than our ego than what you stand for you see what I'm saying I did 8 years in this shit I'm talking about prison installment plan in and out I just got a last year Jew so I'm telling you like I just left politics so I automatically fall into a politician state of mind when I see that his last name got some roots over there alright so we in here We're going to do what we got to do.

2:10:04All right. So when you disrespect me, I'm trying. My heart is like, hey, bro. Right. I'm from Baby Insane Crip. Please let me leave without the extras. I don't want you to do nothing to where I'm going to have to crash out because your homies didn't search me. It's going to be bad. You got to get where my instinct of survival is. Imagine you killed A, B, and D. I have to protect my mind. I would never want no hurt, harm, or danger to that man. I just want to. I mean, you alluded to it. I'm just being. They didn't search you. I just want to challenge this authenticity on putting AK-47. You hear me?

2:10:43And I want to challenge... Look, look, look. Mine's little, but it ain't this. I got my little piece. Look, look. Take this off. Jesus, please. Jesus, please. Adam for real, he is lucky dating Tripp. But wait, how'd that conversation go, though? Because that's actually a mature conversation that you had to have. You know what I mean? And I tried to have it in multiple situations where it's like, hey, look. Hey, can I talk to you? His friends, as you see, the first time they kicked me out, who is this man? The second time they kicked me out, it was more of a situation of, all right, hey, everybody shook my hand and then when I came to him and you see I slow-mo yo look I didn't even see that until we played it back so it's like I know I had sex with the women you had sex with I'm Willie Beeman I'm Willie Beeman I keep screaming when I fill him up I fill him up with semen but it's an economy you almost got me bitch but I got you first Is there any particular woman that you had sex with close to the time that they had sex with her or something?

2:12:01I feel that Dean is light-skinned, and he's going through short man syndrome. And at that time, we could be friends because I don't even have beef with this young man, and I would do anything for you. But at the end of the day, for this streaming world to be so small, you are not standing tall. You are putting people down that might look up to you. And I look at it like this. This world is so small. before it gets tooken on a mainstream level where we got Beyonce's and we got no ditties doing this shit on there, you need to expand this world. Even right now, this is vlogging right now, right? You have a beautiful podcast that have got you multiple wealth and a great standard and a stature of who you are.

2:12:44In the streaming world, AB got him where he's at, but AB never signed that paperwork. So he's able to contain. So no matter how much, as you see on both of my shit, let's just be transparent and use our penal gland. If you see on both of them, AB had nothing to do with it. Even when he had somebody come through with the grill situation, AB like, yeah, I flew out for you. And he said, well, that contradicts what I got going on. But that's what Dean now has to deal with because Dean was looking for his way that he could really make it as a streamer. So getting sucked. And then he found a relationship.

2:13:25Flapped. Okay, okay. Can I just talk? And so then he finds this psychotic former pro boxer who's the worst alcoholic you ever met in your life, and all of a sudden he's lit. We're wearing the same outfits. The whole world goes crazy for it. And now he's sentenced to have to deal with the mental illness and the alcoholism and the bullshit that got AB into the position that he's in now anyway. and there was like a flicker of where it felt like AB was maybe going to kind of like really appreciate the opportunities that Dean was trying to give him. He didn't appreciate it? He just did a 45-day lock-in and he was getting f***ed up the entire time.

2:14:02Why did they do that 45-day? Well, god damn it. Because they were trying to get ready for boxing and then said he just got drunk his f*** the whole time. His character is predicated on him being f***ed up. That's what he came into it with. But I think that the reason why people - He sober up, he ain't going to be - There he is. People are invested in the idea of AB like changing his life. If he's just constantly getting health problems. Yeah, because he drinks all day, every day. So the boxing is over with. So right now... Right, but he's still... If he stopped getting fucked up for like six months, I think we all know that he would be able to at least be able to watch somebody.

2:14:34We don't want to watch him. He's not funny drunk. Bullshit. That's a lie. That's a motherfucking lie. Real talk. When was the last time that AB had a good moment when he was drunk? He told Selena Powell, I almost didn't want you to make it through that cough. You saw that bitch. It's just, it's overrated. People like the idea of it, but like the clips that go viral are not AB just being funny on camera. It's depressing. Bro. It's sad. He's loaded. Call it what you want. He's loaded. And it's like, what the did he just say? Or what the did he just do? I mean, I'm telling you. All I'm saying as a streamer, as a streamer, that's a short stuff.

2:15:13That is not where like that. That does not last. It never has. and they never will. But let me tell you what it has done. And A.B., forgive me. Me and A.B. go back. We love you, A.B.Z. I think I told you this. You don't remember I was trying to get A.B. to sober him up? I was going back and forth to Vegas. A.B. was, bro, was fucked up, bro. He's fucked up right now. No, no, no, he ain't. I'm talking about he was fucked up. Oh, money was? Like, fucked up. When I met him, he was. Adam, bad fucked up. Bad. Like, I don't know where I'm going to be tonight. And now he's gotten the second lease on life that anybody in their right mind would appreciate and take advantage of, and he's doing the same exact shit.

2:15:53He's getting taken advantage of. Well, no. He could probably get a million dollars for a fight right now if he got in shape. Right now he can get some money. That's what I'm saying. He has all these opportunities in front of him. He's still signed to Don. He is powerless to his alcoholism. Don told us, y 'all get him sober, get him a match. I sign off and let y 'all do that. But, Wack, for him to get sober right now, how much he's been drinking, it's not just I'm going to put the bottle down. He is in the drinking where it's deadly for him to stop drinking. He might die. Stop. We need to send him with Lush.

2:16:25Can I really please address? Corrupt my dead count. So he never had to step away before and then come back. Y 'all got to understand this cosplay is real. That's why I'm addressing right now. Like L.A. owns being a drug addict? No, we have. It doesn't have to do because he's not from here. He's been f***ed off Vegas. He's in Miami. That's why he got a case right now. It has nothing to do with it. I'm saying that this cosplay, when you get stuck in a character, a GTA character, you have to play it out to the end. So Dean is playing this character. AB has to play off a character for everybody. If you see, he's uncomfortable.

2:17:01That shit. Yeah, AB is uncomfortable, bro. He stuck up for me, and he didn't have to because the last couple of videos that got him viral about me was negative. Dean? No, AB. Oh, AB. Dean doesn't. I f*** with Dean, man. Dean is young. Dean don't understand it because at the end of the day, he wouldn't disrespect me. He would never. If he knew who I was and what was going on and where he was at, he would never disrespect me. You got to be out here. I f*** with Dean. Also, why would he not reach to you and be like, let's put you on? Let's get you going. Like, as a brother, like, hey, man, I see you doing your thing.

2:17:32I say that all the time about all of them. You and Dean the same, bro. I say him all the time about all of them, though, brother. You an f*** like him, bro. Why are you having one conversation while they're having another conversation? This is Bad Pocket and Casting Whack. Bro, first of all, he's repeating itself. Rio and him are literally talking, and then you start talking to me separately. And now you're doing it again. Whack, whack, whack. One mic. One mic. We got a cohesive conversation makes for good podcast. I'm here for you. Go ahead, man. Yo, what the f***? He makes sure he's tight. He makes sure he's tight.

2:18:03I'm just saying. You got a license around. Somebody got to take up a Dean. Because everybody in here don't dislike him. I like Dean. I love Dean. No, I don't dislike Dean. I love Dean. I just don't like how he prioritized off of utilizing and scrutinizing our tribe of LA County of saying certain words that I had to get socked in the head, be put to bed and filled up with lead for him to do what he want. I just feel like saying cuz is like, I agree. It is kind of weird. Like, why are you saying that shit so much? Like, it's kind of awkward, but it's like, it ain't that big a deal. I ain't going to be, listen, If you said fuck blood.

2:18:41People laugh at it. Kill blood. But people all over the country say co and blood that are not gang members. Because they started doing it the way they were doing it. They were kind of making a mockery of it. And it was like starting to. I don't think Dean's making a mockery. I think Dean is saying co because he thinks it sounds cool as fuck. For the same reason we all think gang members. And I feel it's disrespectful for people to get clout off of something that traumatizes me and my people. You mad because he got big off of it and you didn't. Yeah, I'm not mad off of none of that. Because for him to get big off of it, I didn't take it like that.

2:19:14I took it as traumatization, bro. I did eight years in this prison system. I done been stabbed. I done had 300 versus 100 blacks on the prison bar. This is the entertainment business, bro. Nah, we not going to play that. So I felt that it was a guideline when you come around here, somebody at least lays your boots to hang out with the troops so we don't shoot. I'm just saying we're going to get in anywhere we want to or whatever we got on the dead homies. And you know that. So at the end of the day, I could have showed out because I'm not mentally, I'm not clicked there. So if I would have boom, boom, boom, boom, then what?

2:19:46Now I'm just a clip for you to talk about. You could be like, take it. Treat it in the right way and bow down like, hey, look, I'm from here. Just let me leave on the set so I can save face for another day. And then you do it again at Rampage Jackson and got him feeling like, what the f*** going on? And you see the intentional hate for somebody that's in the same field to you, and you don't want me to eat. But they don't want to share the clout. That's the problem. Because they think you might be a weirdo. And I'm just saying that's what they, but that's why their guard is up, is because they don't know if they fuck with you.

2:20:23And if you don't fuck with someone, you don't want to give them any opportunity. The same reason that we don't want to take photos with random fucking people, because they could end up being a weirdo. Their weirdo radar is so highly tuned because when you're a streamer, everybody does weird shit to you. When you're famous, everybody's going to act crazy to you. Where did he even know you from? How did you even get there? I know. That's why it's weird. How did you even get there? Because he was with some girls. He was with girls. You know what I'm saying, bro? We might be talking about this too much.

2:20:53Where are you at, bro? No, that ain't what I'm saying. He was with girls. He came with a bunch of girls. But that ain't. I know, but to that, that's like, who's there? I didn't even know they were going to be at the second location with Rampage. I can show you a text message right now where I, listen, I'll show you right now, where I didn't know they were going to be there. Look, I got receipts. I don't even do that. I want to go to Taco Tuesday. Look at this. Look at this. What does I say? Let my ox in. So, because you know he's a detective. I have to cross her name. My wife says, my homie's going to the top.

2:21:22Also, she, the women invited you. That's a whole nother woman. No, that's not a woman. No. This is a woman that's going to Dean's and them shit. look you know what I'm saying a female invited no I got invited by one of the motherfucking not not only one of their PRs or whoever uh works for Rampage okay okay but look at that right there oh the lady this is the lady what's the big lady I know who about it okay then you tell me look what I'm saying it's a lot different like when I went up there AB said whack pull up so when I got there AB said what you know what I'm saying but he's how's that Rampage house so you gotta wiggle You gotta just show up.

2:22:00You gotta try to get yourself in the right doors. You know, I'm at Rampage Jackson house. So, y 'all not supposed to be here. Y 'all had a whole nother, y 'all got a blind date thing going on. So, I try to avoid y 'all. And I come over here and then I get kicked out out of a whole nother house that don't know what's going on. So, then he said, fuck again. And see what he's saying. He didn't have fuckers shorts. Like, yeah. And what you said is, you could have handled it. You took it. You did it the good way. I stalled y 'all out. And you treat me this way and I could have done it the different way.

2:22:31Right. And I stalled you out twice. Twice. You getting soft, Neff. You should have waited outside. Nah, no. He was over there. I did not know they were there. You should have waited outside. Should have fought Rampage. If you saw my shit, I should have fired on somebody, huh? Rampage and peaked your ass over here. He choked that nigga bang out. He choked that motherfucker out quick. Touch me, you bitch ass. He went to jail. Touch me. Touch me out, sue. So after they put you out, Dean does his famous. damn damn damn yeah that's tough that's tough rock with me talk to me real quick all the lokes out here that is y 'all didn't y 'all didn't let his rob he's y 'all didn't let his do whatever they want on them how do you feel about a nigga that's a native that that ended eight years in this shit bro prison style i'm talking about i've been doing this my whole life but i didn't gave eight years where you will never go and they said the military or prison is the only thing that's gonna make your men.

2:23:27That's how I grew up on. So I don't know about this new standard, but on me. Free Willy. How do y 'all feel about it? You got Free Willy. Free Willy. Yo, Wack, I feel like you have more issues to talk through with Rios here. Where is your smoke emanating from? I don't know where Rios comes from. Get on, Co. Where the hate. Where the hate comes from, Rios. Yeah, why you hate? You got hate in your hood. I don't even know you. Look at this. Check it out. I don't even know this, dude. From just, my thing was, I see what the value is because, what you are like it's like you are an anomaly an anomaly inside of a conundrum right inside of a vest you are something that is not seen everywhere and i i look and i because i'm starting to pay attention now because you see where i came from and i was just like sliding with how i slide teaming up with the team you know i mean where we where we at we at but now that i get to pay attention, I get to see the movement.

2:24:25And it's not normal and people are handling you normal. No, you can't do that. And it's like, y 'all don't even see. I saw you just put down a demo on how to extract information and give nothing.

2:24:42That's a fact. And that's the shit that blew my eyes. Like, oh, I see it now. Well, you gotta understand, I come from... My thing is, I'm raised. I'm 45. I was raised by some real ninjas, real snipers, real samuraises. You move how you move and you be cool. I see it. I'm like, oh, these motherfuckers don't - You thought before I was just like - I thought you was just moving. You just moving - You thought I was just like - Nah, this shit is calculated. You from where? Bankroll? Where you? Oh, y 'all from Long Beach. Okay, what you a rapper? What's up, man? I'm from Israel now. I'm not changing my life.

2:25:19I just came on. You from Israel? I'm going to tell you what I'm saying, too. Well, you just came off from Bankroll. I see you got the hardware on. Everybody from NSA? What up, G? How you living? Hey, what's up, man? How y 'all doing? What's up, man? Hey, come on, man. Huh? You don't remember him? I don't remember Block. Oh, can we? We got to, like, they're not going to be, like, hearing shit with the mic. Oh, no, I don't. Nigga, I don't know none of y 'all diggars, digga. Okay. I didn't even meet the one you interviewed. Hey, Small May, say what that's in. Say what that three? You the one you interviewed?

2:26:00Oh, he went back or something? Yeah, yeah. Small. They can't see with everybody in front of the... We gotta get some order going there, yeah. Hey, so, you know the crazy part? I cussed Alshon out today. Alshon, mine? He calls me and tells me I'm in New York and we're going to pull up on Fafio Ford and, you know, my mind immediately He finally goes to, hold on, nigga. You going to pull up on Fabio 4 and you got nephew with you. I said, are you thinking right now? He got Jap 5 with him. Man, listen, bro, I think a whole other type of way. You get what I'm saying? Because they are highly upset about this last situation.

2:26:42You know, I got to blame for it first. I don't know what the f*** I'm talking about. Pop Smoke. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know, but. Jap 5 is a Hoover trophy. But why would he give a fuck about Jap 5? It had nothing to do with it. Nigga, he went, what? That ain't how that work. He was locked up the whole time all this shit was going on. Listen, it ain't every day we got direct access sitting in our city with a motherfucking Hoover. Yeah, very controversial. There's people in New York who don't want to fuck with me because I interviewed him. And I'm telling him, I'm like, Alshon, what you doing out? Who you with?

2:27:13Who you got? you can't just be taking nephew in them gutters like that because they ain't never scored on us. Nobody's ever came back from New York on a Delta flight in the cargo area. They've always left LAX going somewhere else. It's a fact. We ain't lost none out the way. So, you know, I got the blame first for that shit. What's the boy, Corey King, went crazy on me. He swore to God I had something to do with it. I was in Germany somewhere on a game tour when that shit happened. And I didn't meet him when he came down and interviewed with you. You rapping and all that? Wasn't you rapping? No, I just started rapping.

2:27:51Oh, you just started? Yeah, I just started recently. Maybe like a year ago, but I went to jail for nine months. Everybody's out that has something that went down for that, right? Two people out. Yeah, two of us out. Two out of four? Yeah, two in jail. Got you. So what's your plan now? My plan now is to stay out of the way. Get this shit. Rap. I don't know how to do this shit. But rap. Rap. Shit. YouTube. You need a manager. Basically. I'm trying to turn this into positive. I got just the guy. Talking to Unk right now. Let's go. Your career could go as delightfully as game and Blueface. No, I'm just saying.

2:28:34That's what he need. He know what he want to do. He just don't know when to do it, how to do it, where to go do it at. I mean, he got a story to him. You know what I'm saying? You got to remember, man, dude was a big deal. Even though he was just on the come up. That's like he was Draco with a bigger song than fucking Pop Smoke was. You know what I'm saying? Pop Smoke was huge, way bigger than Draco. That's what I'm saying, with a bigger song. he only had one, so he ain't had no... Did the nigga drop an album? I think he had that one, Dior Dior. I'm gonna be honest, I didn't know about him. That's what I'm saying.

2:29:11Well, you probably heard the song, but you didn't know the... Yeah, in New York, it was all pop, smoke, everything. We knew the song, though. He had a song that crossed. Right. We got another mic. Right here. He had a song that crossed, but you, people still kind of... They pissed off about that interview you did. I remember we caught all kind of blowback about that. but people still curious but it's all like salty industry heads cause then I'm in like Brooklyn with Bobby Shmurda and all his I'm with like 200 Crips, nobody said a word about it I didn't even think about it, I'm not even thinking about that they could have killed me that day I was on zero no security, no nothing, I was chilling by yourself I just think I kind of know what he should do and you probably could do it in a couple weeks He says, bro, be out here.

2:30:02He need to be in the hot seat, but he got to have a project to drop. Put him in the hot seat with an East Coast motherfucker, right? Academic to somebody. But you got to, from there, turn it up. He'll do it if I ask him to do it. Like, let's go. If I ask him to do it, he'll do it. He need to be in that hot seat, but you got to have a project. You got to have something. You know what I'm saying? Because once the eyes are on you, then what? You know what I'm saying? And you probably need a little media training because what you want to do, 40%, you probably should do. And then there's some other things you got to do to try to like, because you was young back then.

2:30:42Was you still a minor? I was 16. Yeah, so they didn't charge you as an adult? Okay, you got lucky. They booked me, nigga. I got booked. Guarded as an adult. You know what I'm saying? And so you still got a card that you can play to win some favor? Yeah, for sure. You know, if you're rapping ain't garbage. Nah. They said it ain't. For sure. You gonna see. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we ain't got to talk. You see. All right. So, and then, wait. You from Insane. Yo, from Insane. Oh, you rap. Yo, I be rapping. You look like a motherfucking rapper. Yo, I just come out the city. You know what I'm saying?

2:31:17Oh, you baby? Yo, from Insane. You with Savvy? Yeah, that's my buddy on the show. I was just in the group chat with the UNDW. You know what I'm saying? Oh, okay. Oh, that's you. That's me. You on the hood. I got to go do the fireman challenge. Yeah, a little insane crib meeting today on the Adam and Wack Friday. You know, I got extended family over there. That's a comfort zone. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to original Chuck as well from the east side. So what you got up? Joe. Shit, man. I'm just out the way, man. Free my ankle. Y 'all see what's going on, man. Free my ankle, man. Free our ankle, though.

2:31:50You see what I'm saying? You got it, too? Yeah. I got to get me. Oh! Oh, man. They had you. I'm weak. Did you see how? You know I got on DC Baby Draco about how he did you. Was that you he was interviewing? Yeah. You didn't see what he did to you? Oh, yeah. I got on it. No, we got to talk about it because we got on his ass. Because I. Get your punk ass up out of here. Willie, you take my shit. Listen. So this nigga, DC Baby Draco, is interviewing him. And I guess he asked a question. and then at the same time he had some Jap 5 conversation going on and the nigga went and edited as if he said, oh, man, that nigga was leaving the dorm, throwing up neighborhood and all kind of shit, right?

2:32:34So I hit Jap. I said, Jap, what is he talking about? He said, I don't know what he talks about. So I hit DC. He's like, whack. I edited. I said, bro, why are you editing interviews? You can't take out four words and then it run into something else. You can't. And see, that's something you got to learn. You got to let a nigga know, hey, they don't edit nothing going on. Because just that fast, I know you woke up to all kind of calls. Not knowing what they was talking about. I said, bro, I said, let me call DC. And DC told me edit. No, no, no, no. That's just, you know, that's an honest mistake, nigga.

2:33:10In his lifestyle, he make errors. You know, he made an error. He fixed it. Simple. Maturity. So his issue wasn't with Japp? It was no issue at all. No, no, no. It was no issue at all. Now that's my guy. Shout out to Jab. Jab level head. You ain't going to just get him off his square that easy. Nah, not at all. That's my guy. You said he need media training. Don't sound like it to me. Who? Mature as hell right there. That's a great answer. No, no, no. That was definitely a great answer. That's a great answer. But you know when you going in there with a wolf-like act, you know what I'm saying? But I think he can handle it.

2:33:42I think he can handle it. Just take practice. You know, I was a YA baby, so I had practice going in front of them parole boards. Mm-hmm. You know, we know they ain't going to let us go because we didn't have eight write-ups and shit like that. So, you was really like a Jill, nigga, huh? I'm a white, what? I started doing time. Got it. Listen, you from Insane? I'm from East Coast. Which one? 6-6. I'm all of them, but I'm 6-6. You from 6-6. All right. You know Youngson from 6-2s? Yeah, you keep asking. You know C-Loco from 8-9? It's not a person from 8-9. No, do you know C-Loco from 8-9? They know me.

2:34:16I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. He not trying to lead with that, what? You ain't trying to be professional, what? Let it be professional. You know who C-Loco is from 8-9? For shit show. You know it? No, you don't. I don't think you know it. I just look like this. Look, this is my first time ever been out of prison for a year. This is my first time ever been out of prison for a year, bro. So listen. So let me fill you in a little bit. Oh, man. Matter of fact, want me to call 8-9 so they can tell you who C-Loco is? Go home. I believe. I ain't gonna hold on. We gonna have fun right there.

2:34:54We gonna have fun with this crazy ass. Youngster my man from the Dico. That's Dico you calling? That's Dico? Dico home comes of me. Yeah, that's Freak old Dico. Hey, really? He got it. It's only one. I don't do no line and no popping. It's only one Dico. I just said about every exotic car he done had. You hear me? Y 'all was the one they used to. They didn't bring me in these areas until you - Yo, hold on. I'm in here with a nigga from 6-6 East Coast, right? So I asked him He said he know all of them So I asked him if he knows Hold on, I asked him If he knows C-Loco from 8-9 And he told me Wait, wait, wait And he told me, yeah He knows C-Loco from 8-9 So I'm going to ask you Who's C-Loco from 8-9?

2:35:36I'm asking you first Dico, tell this nigga who C-Loco is from 8-9 Hold on, hold on Wait, wait, wait, be quiet Tell him who C-Loco is from 8-9 You see Long Coast Pay 9. Boy, we didn't put work in. That's me. I'm going to holler at you, little bro. Boy, listen. Listen, nigga. I got keys to Mary Street. You understand? I done been down that alley quite a few times. He going to call you later, right? He going to tell you something. No, listen. I don't think you're hearing what I'm telling you. I know you're not. Did you hear what I'm telling you? Don't tell you. We ain't going to tell you. Nigga, that's my second home over there.

2:36:08For real, for real. That's the whole I know you is. So my mama, I'm the mob target. Hey, so we got, who was, which one you from? A-Trey? You from A-Trey, right? What he said, Oregon. Huh? This nigga, I know all that, but you from 83rd. A-Trey. Insane. We got the East Coast. Oh, listen, we got a nice mix. We got. Y 'all got the south side of Chicago up in here. You from Chicago? Yes, sir. You know, I'm going to tell you what, y 'all. I got a bunch of Chicago niggas I f*** with, but I still get all y 'all shit mixed up. I don't be knowing if my, this nigga GD, a BD, the East, West, South. I just be knowing me and this nigga doing some business.

2:36:44I didn't accidentally had two niggas together who from different sides. I learned today about a chief and a king. Yeah, y 'all got, they got some whole other, a whole. But I can respect they build because they build is like California. It's original. It's a lot of politics, you know. It's original. And y 'all the only city that got something down here from y 'all city. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? That's what we're doing. You know, the demographics are all over. But you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what matters. Gotcha. So you down here with these crazy niggas? Man, we outside. You know what I'm saying?

2:37:18You know what I'm saying? Cold mix. Cold mix. But see, that's what you need to be. Is you strength. You got the mix you need. Because ain't nobody doing them type of strings and the bike scene streams. Right, right, right. I told Greg the barber, the one that knocked Shug out, you need to start doing the bike scene streams. No, no, no. Because it'll be a whole different world. I told a nigga that two days ago. We just talking about Greg Department and Shig and how... That's great. We just talking about that shit. He kept getting nigga Shig, did some weird shit. He waited two hours for that nigga to come out that club by himself.

2:37:49You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I understand it because two of my artists, they stream. And I'm talking to them people that's over that water. And it's definitely a method to the madness. Rob Markman, Do you understand where I'm getting at? And by me - Nah, you don't want to your hand off. You don't want to scare the people. I can't. I understand that because how am I going to get some money? I learned from you. Because you can be as gaisy as you want, but when that time to get that money, don't be The time and place for everything. Do you understand me? And if you don't want me to pull you to the side to get that time and place, it's all right.

2:38:22Because these other people are going to give it to me. But you got a dangerous thing about yourself. A motherfucker, they don't know you, they misread you. But that's good because it gives you a lane to be who you are, and they never know that they've been put on the list for later on. So that means you're going to manage my situation? It sounds like you're not. You can't be managed, nigga. You managed the unmanageable, though. You managed the unmanageable. Just tell me no. Tell me no on the street. Don't do too much. I watch you. If anybody can do it, Wack can do it. Shout out to my... If anybody can do it, Wack can do it.

2:38:54For sure. If anybody can do it, Wack can do it. That's crazy how you ain't fucking with me. Tell me what's the thing, Wack. Whenever you doing your shit, you have to do your business. You can't never let people feel like they got to do business with your hood. You know what I'm saying? Because the minute they start feeling like that, it's like we can't grow together. I'm telling you, like a mother. They don't tell you, but word travels real quick. I mean, you got to deal with him and his whole neighborhood and 50 other niggas. So they let them deal with you, and then you deal with that. Because if not, it's going to handle your business, bro.

2:39:32All my artists, I deal with them. They got their teams and their crews or whatever, and I know who I need to know. You know what I'm saying? Other than that, I just lean on them to do whatever they're going to deal with. But always make sure your business is in your square and don't force them to... Everybody ain't for everything. Nigga, you got to go to an office visit. Take your ass to an office visit. One, two people. You cool. You know what I'm saying? It's always good to have a female with you there too. Free game. You get what I'm saying? And then with the female, what you do, you say, hey, take her email down.

2:40:08If you can't get a hold of me, she always on top of my shit. So now it's like, okay, he got his business in order. Usually when you see me, you see my woman. You know what I'm saying? But do it like that and make people a little more comfortable working with you. And I'm going to say the sad thing is urban music is in the ditch right now. So the shit he doing, learn from it because you cross that with what you doing, right? Then it works. Period. Because they watch it from every angle. They don't care about what you're doing. They don't care if you fucking make a look and all that. Y 'all from a real mysterious city, bro.

2:40:42Do you know who you buy? Because when a nigga say Long Beach, the world thinks Snoop Dogg. True. But it's a whole lot more than Long Beach than just Snoop Dogg. I'm not even going to hold you. Which means, listen, which means there's a whole lane out there that people want to know about. They want to see. Right, right, right. You get what I'm saying? Okay. On some real shit. That's BBS background. I know you be around the town, but he the hottest thing going down. He going to get out. No, he the one that they wanted to do the reality show. I know who it is now. So streaming is a springboard right now.

2:41:18Hell yeah. It's a springboard into whatever else you're doing. I'm a part of the underground world. Streaming is a new rotation of radio. You know how important radio was? It's streaming. What? Yeah. It's a new wave of the middle man. Yes, it did. The middle man is gone. But look, they did that only in California because what's going on in 2028? I just turned down a whole album deal because I told him - You turned down what? A whole album deal for one of my artists. I said, why would I do that when I can just go make the money streaming the making of the album and the money be made times 10 before it even come out?

2:41:53And then I put it up anyway and we own the rights to it. And don't need no forwarded money. Don't need no advances, nothing. Niggas is going to sit there. When you do, listen, a 24-hour stream for like 20 days and you maintaining, let's say, 20 ,000 people, pay you about 800 ,000. Come on, Wack. Turn my shit up there, man. And guess what? That world is this small. So why you ain't managing what I got going on? That's the crazy thing about it. I didn't know you was streaming. I was streaming hard and I'm winning right now. I didn't know you was streaming. I need you. I had no idea. I ain't gonna hold you.

2:42:28Big time. Unk, unk. You was forced in this world. Next up. You are forcing that streaming world. And guess what? You have managed to - No, I tell people this all the time. Like, this is how crazy the camera is. People that knew who I was knew who I was in the game. Right. But the social media shit, it didn't spark until somebody recorded me knocking stitches out. You're right. I saw that. Right? Now, everybody who knew me knew me. But I'm in jail. When they take me to the county jail the next day, they got like a little dog catching a little wagon. I'm in the back of the motherf***er and Charlemagne is syndicating from New York to Miami.

2:43:03And I hear donkey of the day. Stitches. Why the f*** would he try to run up on game with WAC 100 standing on the carpet? Right, right, right. But I didn't know, y 'all remember, I didn't know this shit was all on the internet. They tased me once, but I didn't know they tased me. So when I realized I was on the ground, I'm going survival mode. Like I'm on the yard. So I ain't knowing the things is in me. So when I went to get up, they thought I was high on something because they pumping me. But I get up. So they hit me again. Pow, pow. And the second time they hit me, I was cranking like a mother.

2:43:42But the first time I didn't know, nigga, I was just like, nigga, how you get on the ground? Because when he tried to rush game, I knocked him out. But he had three of his homies with him. So in my head, we finna lie. So when I was going at them, they thought I was going to stomp him. And whenever somebody's like unconscious and out, yeah, yeah. So they hit me with the shit. So I didn't know. I had no idea. Nigga tased me. I just know I'm on the ground. And I go and say, bop, nigga, get up. Nigga, it's a war on the yard. And when I went to get up, the dude is tripping like, how the fuck is this nigga getting up?

2:44:18We feeling him up. Because psychologically, I wasn't feeling this shit. Because you don't even know who you hit with again. I didn't know. Yeah. I didn't know. I know what that's like. You come from that shit, made them out on them yards. I'm asking you. You know what I'm saying? You know, you been in a situation, but we didn't know we was going to make it hot up. How do you feel about that? Because you be having these little situations. Especially you, your young guys, you always keep going through some shit. Being a young artist, how do you feel about all the bullshit that you're going through as far as the other artists from Long Beach and other cities that's coming for you?

2:44:47How do you feel about that? You got issues already? On rap and shit? That's real. Yeah, we ain't no club. We ain't missing a nigga, but. Are they tripping over the rap shit? It's a little bullshit going on by the scene. He viral right now. Are you going to the Observatory on the 5th? That come with it. But you know the good thing about it, like I said, that neighborhood is one of the most disciplined neighborhoods that I know. It always been like that. So whatever he dealing with, he be all right. Period. I love you for that. That was the best answer ever. You know how to read the room. Definitely be all right.

2:45:23I see the mix. I see the Hussein. You know what I mean? I come from an era where I remember when that come together. You know what I'm saying? So whatever. You know, whatever he... I always tell people that shit. You know what I'm saying? That neighborhood over there, them niggas got the most niggas in shape. You know what I'm saying? And them niggas will still show up in drones, but they'll show up and be laid back. They won't even tear nothing up unless that's where they gotta be. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. I'm gonna take real some more. I met my nigga Big Fave. Me and Big Fave, we like, that's my brother.

2:45:58But we met on the battlefield, thundering against each other. On my mama. That's how we met, thumping against each other. I'm over here. Fave say whack. And we f*** with y 'all though. We f***ing 219. And I see Fave over here knocking niggas out. We f***ing 219. He's standing niggas up with the left. Two peas. We f***ing 219. Putting them out with the right. Yeah, right. And ever since that day, we've been tight. Rugged on. I love you, man. So did y 'all get into managing at the same time? You and Fave? Big Fave? I think Fave went back. I think I got into it first because Big Fave went back to the feds.

2:46:29You know, Fave ain't never did state time. Because Fave did Indian Blue. Yeah. And I remember I was already, I was moving. I was helping him with Indian Blue. Oh, okay. We used to put him on our rap shows, How the West Was Won, Crush Groove and all that shit. And Fave kept going back and forth to the feds. Fave even did about 25 years in the feds. Yeah. In and out. You know what I'm saying? And he's never been to a state facility. Never. Let me ask you this, because I heard this rumor. You know, I mean, I don't want to put no ages out there, because, you know, I've been around for the crown. But was it true that they was going to have you take over, because this is what I was told.

2:47:05Like, this is just on some young, inspiring artist type shit where they was like, all right, so we got Wack 100. He's going to take all the Crip rappers. And then that's when you had Blueface. You had Savi, and then it was supposed to be Big U. Take all the Blood ones. No. First of all, Big U, he didn't know nothing about the industry. When he came home in 04, Corrupt had came back to Def Row. But Def Row, little did they know, was on his way out. That's when he went to Duh Row. I don't know if you remember. Duh Row. I remember that. The premier artist was a Long Beach nigga, Crooked Eye. Right, right, right.

2:47:38I don't get it for that. And so when Big U came home, he didn't really know what he wanted to do. He was just fucking with him because of Corrupt. Now, fast forward, I was already managing Ray J the game and shit like that. And then Birdman was like, well, let's get a division started over there. You could do it because you got your own team. I have my own internal radio teams and publishers and all that shit, right? So I had a bunch of budgets. So quite naturally, I reach out to all the Dom moves. Right. Right? the first week and the second week my daughter sends me blue face and I'm in Orlando with my daughter on some cheerlead shit cheer dad shit and I'll never forget it's 6 in the morning I'm at the airport and I see a little motherfucker squatting on a sign talking about damn cuz the spot getting hot can't trust the homegirl cause she's fucking with the eyes this nigga this nigga's on top of the he's on top of the sign ain't bouncing.

2:48:41I'm like, this is a little motherfucker. This is a little motherfucker. I didn't know who he was and where he was from, but I seen his Instagram, so I get in his Instagram. Now, here's the thing. I go to tap it in with everybody. Every everybody I'm looking at all their stats and what they're doing and what they're not doing. So, when I turn over, when I'm looking at the ones that I feel I want to fuck with, when I turn over they face card, I'm not gonna deny the youngster because he a crip. Right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? Okay, well, if I'm looking at and he checking out, cool.

2:49:22So, I got in contact with Blueface, right? Blueface pulls up. I get in contact with Savvy. It took Savvy two, three times to pull up, and good thing me and Big Fave was tight, because at the time, Savvy was signed to Warren G. Right. Right, that's how you're doing this. Yeah, Savvy was signed to Warren G. Right? So I was able to hit Fave, to hit Warren G to work that out. But I will tell you this. All the Crips came to the meeting. Okay. All the Bloods was like, I got to talk to my homies. Okay. Now, I'm giving out bags at the time. At this point. I'm putting quarter millions in niggas' pockets.

2:50:05Are we good with them? Did anybody ever send a name to you, Chuck from the east side, Long Beach? Jamar or Chuck Taylor? Uh-uh. I don't know what that is. He used to be with Luck. He was with Warren G. Before Savvy was there. I found Savvy on the thing. Savvy came and met me at the Fox Hills Mall in Lucille's. And he pulled up and he had the contract Warren had him in. So I hit Fave. I said, Fave, listen. Savvy said, that's Warren. I said, he don't want to work with Warren. Oh, wait. You talked him out of his contract? No, I had to talk about it. When I said, I said, Fave, he don't want to work with Warren.

2:50:39So either they can sit over there and get into it or tell Warren, let me know what he gave him. I'm going to give that back and some, and then we're going to give him an override on the albums we do. Right. So Warren, because it was me, he knew it wasn't going to be no bullshit. It was right before Fave had to go turn himself in to do that last couple of years. so we gave Warren back what he put into Savvy and some and then gave him an override on Savvy next couple hours. The only way to do fair business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because now I'm really in his business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm in his business because that's his orders, right?

2:51:13So, but I'm knowing he like, I don't want to, you know, for whatever reason, right? So, but this little motherf***er Savvy and he'll tell you every time I gave this n***a something, he go to jail the same day. Yes, so your liability. I get a n***a, listen, I get a n***a his wire on Friday. Saturday, he back in jail. I paid attorneys to get him out. He say, Wack, I need a car. I bought him a car on Saturday, a brand new Benz. Sunday, he back in jail. He done went airborne running from the pole. I said, nigga, I can't give you nothing. And it was crazy. The last time he went to jail, Blueface got signed after Savvy.

2:51:48So I'm telling you, keep grinding. We're going to get Savvy up off the ground, and we're going to double back. When Savvy went to jail in November, And the PO was like, we ain't letting him go this time. We gonna do a little time. That's when I called Blueface and said, time to go. So it was kind of like Savvy going to jail set Blueface's timing up. And that's when you saw the Tatiana remix with YG, with Cardi B and the Kobe and all that shit. That's when that was. I knew that. I knew that. I know you got these artists, right? They nice. They booming. You got some action. I got a proposition for you.

2:52:25and then they bought some money myself i got two songs right you so songs you've done i just got out i don't need your money Listen to me. Listen to me. I'll listen to you. Call shit trash. I'll listen to you. Send that to one of your homies. If it's trash, that's yours. Send that to one of your homies. No, look, look, look, look. You is my homie. It's good. You know what I'm saying? You just got to remember, listen to me. I got old relationships over there on that side of town. Okay, okay, okay. Let me know that my real nigga pay off is good. Say love. Shout out to my nigga Youngstead from Six Deuce, Dinko, 8, and all my niggas over there.

2:53:05My mama's a little firecracker, my soul. Put it in my hand like that. I went for my first time for a year. Oh, that's great. I've been off for my first time for a year. It's your first time getting on paper. I ain't never been out of jail for longer than a year since 13 years old. I'm 33 years old. And you know I love you because I'm always going to bring you where I'm at. How we hear the songs? How do we get to the songs though? Yeah, no, both of these. No, but tell the people how to get to it. Yeah, tell the people how to get to the music. You hear? It's unidentified underscore John. But here goes the thing outside of rapping, what you do?

2:53:40Because see, you can't - I don't even rap. I do pop and I sing. I don't even rap. Okay, so are you two hood? They compare me to a round wave and shit like that. Listen. Okay, that might work. Ooh. That might work. You sparked his interest with that. You want some melodic shit? I got pain and I got pop. You want some melodic shit? There he is right there. What happened? Look. There he is right there. There's his Instagram right there. Underscored Dump. I'm going to follow him. What's your Instagram again? Unidentified Underscore John Doe. Unidentified Underscore John Doe. Let's go. We on our platforms, man.

2:54:10Do for free. What you do, nigga? You manage? You rap? You sing? You produce? I do a lot of my real artists. He got his avocado toast. We making money. You know Kid O' Curry? I just recorded yesterday. You know him? Maybe, maybe by a face. He's from Chicago. Yeah? What, he make music or something? That's nephew. 100.

2:54:36Crazy. I got an idea for this video. I wouldn't even do the first video out. I wouldn't even do the traditional video. I would just take some animations, the lie a lot, the shit you saying. I had a whole front of the screen. It'd be tears with a heart popping out periodically on some of the punchlines. And people are paying attention to it. You get what I'm saying? But now you got something. Make people wonder who the you are.

2:55:09Yo listen to this after I can pay attention to it. Hold on, I got one for you. Hold on, wait, wait. I gotta get back to this nigga right here. Hold on. We haven't got to have a conversation. So when you first, or when you was at, cause you know AD them, that's family. Yeah, yeah. So when you was over there. How did you see me over there? Because I just saw the energy you did without him. So when I saw, when did I really catch when? I can't think of the exact time, but I knew that you was maneuvering, you know what I mean? And how you was putting yourself in position. And I was like, okay, this is everywhere and he's got everybody and doing all this shit.

2:55:53but what I started thinking was like this is not by accident you know what I mean none of this shit is by accident and the way that he's navigating this shit is like who trained this nigga you know what I mean like where did he get this from because I know it's not normal and my thing like I said earlier people are looking at it like it's normal and it's not and the other thing that gave it not gave it away but that like kind of really put the cherry on top you said I sent the niggas to the oh it was about game and you was like he can't use these three platforms can't use Vlad, Ak and No Jumper those is mine I was like who else can say that?

2:56:37Not many people you know what I mean? And it was like oh it's smart you know what I mean? Like it's a way to be smart it's a way to be tactful it's a way to be hustle but it's Danza, Flacco Joe Budden you know bootleg you know I just you know it's if you're gonna go into something you got to go into it and complete it so my strong point in music was I had an independent radio team when COVID hit and radio really didn't matter not to say it don't matter but it phased out I seen the takeover of this shit and you're single handedly watching the takeover of the streaming shit that's what I'm talking about and I saw the I saw the pivots.

2:57:21Rob Markman You just saw me move again. Rob Markman Yeah, I'm like, wait, hold the up. Rob Markman You could be pivots. Rob Markman Like wait, nah, this is crazy. You know what I mean? To me it's crazy because I get to look at it from the outside. Rob Markman Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rob Markman I'm not in previous relationships with nobody, and know people, and know that. I'm just me being a cool ass dude, just a dad, a husband, whatever. Rob Markman And I'm watching, I'm like, nah, this is something. And people ain't taking note of it. Rob Markman No. I also want to ask, when you went to Back on Fig the other day, when you're going to places, and it don't have to just single out Back on Fig, but when you're going places, what are your intentions?

2:57:58And how do you discern what your movement is going to be? Well, the number one responsibility I have to myself when I go into them situations is A, make it unique. B, I have to fill in and transition when the room isn't, whether they know I'm doing it or not. Because if it goes dry and whack what Hunter's on the show, it's going to be a reflection on me. Copy. So all of them hit me once I let AD and all of them. Yeah. And they was like, whack your energy whenever you come because they can't prepare for me. They just got to just let this shit go where it's going to go. You know what I'm saying?

2:58:42And I don't know. It's like the reason why it's easy because I'm not trying to do it. I'm just being me. But the cold part is, and this is not to do no ageism shit. It's like at your age, you still running circles around young cats, younger cats. in which some would say this is a young cast game. You know what I mean? But you have found a lane that only you are feeling. Listen, within anything you do, like when we look at boxing, right, it's a lot of great boxing, but there's only one Mike Tyson. And even though Floyd is undefeated, is our undefeated guy, when people still talk about memorable moments, you reflect to Mike Tyson even though he used to piss us off with 30 second fights right so I think is when you when you make an impact I don't be trying to I just be being like I never sit and say I'm gonna go in do this say this say that say this right I just knew you was a guy you came to the building oh let's get to that I knew you came from back on figs Ace Boys Worldwide.

2:59:58Pond. From Pond. Ace Boys Worldwide, yeah. Now, when I met Pond, Pond was managing all the producers. Yeah. League of Stars. We used to argue all the time over the percentages of the contract. Right? So, now I'm wondering. But he speaks highly of you. No, that's broke. That's broke. I'm wondering, how the hell he get over here? I'm like, okay, this Rios dude. Then I see you, and you were like, man, it seems like Wack is the problem of the build. dude so that was that was i like that i did that because it because what i'm doing is what i was doing is trying to put him in position to have to talk you know what i mean like i want you to have to talk to it because i want to that's what they all say no but i want to see if he understands what's happening like because because what i'm in my head you've outmaneuvered everybody well i don't know it's maneuvering i i think i'm in my own lane yeah because they can't deal with the shit and they not looking at it the right way.

3:00:53You know what I mean? It's like the opportunities that are there, they don't see the opportunities. Rob Markman But a lot of people that's here, they also stuck in the box. See, we can come in here and be talking about a topic and I call the mother who we talking about. You know what I'm saying? So you got to remember nobody here has my history and my reach the way I have it. You know what I'm saying? They don't have my reach into this shit the way I have it, right? Even Adam. Adam's been around 10, 11 years. He knows the people he knows, but it's some shit where he just wasn't around for them, but he just don't know them.

3:01:32He know other motherfuckers. He don't just know them personally. So with me, it's kind of like I could debate you a little different because I started getting technical about shit. You get what I'm saying now? And then you got to remember, I got this whole other world called Clubhouse. That's what I'm unfamiliar with. Right? Yeah, yeah. I got a whole other regime over there that scares the shit out of people. And that shit's been open 24 hours a day, seven days a week for the last four and a half years. Never shut down. So it's just - A whole team over there. And it's just cutthroat at that point.

3:02:06Like, when you send the clubhouse, that's the cutthroat, right? Like, that's like when - Well, clubhouse is made up of people across the globe, attorneys, crazy motherf***ing Texas, all kind of different type of people, right? And it's like an internal team. And my wife, along with other people like Dreyus and other people, we got a security unit, my man Beast. Beast is a very disrespectful guy, right? So he got certain people under him to where if I go to a room and I'm debating with somebody and a motherfucker, they got a chat down there. So we got a whole nother chat squad. They just battle niggas in the chat, but beast them, but come on stage.

3:02:49And then I got a whole other team that'll find you. So if you get to popping up off the mouth, we scare them a little bit. He popping off the mouth. My team would get him. They'd research him, find out everything. About 12 minutes later, there'd be a knock at the door. I'm like, bro, go on and answer the door. What? It's a knock at your door. You don't hear it? Oh, nigga, you just heard that shit. I said, all right, go ahead. He'll open it. I'm like, don't worry about the cost of the pizza. I already paid for it. I said, but look, so watch your mouth, nigga. Could have been somebody else. So now niggas like, hold on, what just happened?

3:03:19He just literally found this nigga. So it's a whole nother world over there that's watching everything that I do. Then on top of that, I have successfully created what Floyd created for himself in boxing. Why is Floyd Mayweather so big? Why did he have the most numbers? What was his technique? He create hate for people to hate him. and the ones that hated him the most were who uh mexicans and then he used to always fight around what date cinco de mayo and he would come out and what and can cost so did the mexicans tune into support or in hopes that he lost that he lost so his hate is what made him big right so i got 50 motherfuckers a day who hate my guts for no reason and you got me in an algorithm and I don't never put content up.

3:04:11I don't put content. Months, every three, four months, I go play on my U. Other than that, nigga, I don't put nothing up. They do it for me. So you've created the love-hate. You know what I mean? Like the hate. Whether it's good or bad. You've created a whole ecosystem of where you ain't got to do shit. I pulled up my Google. My name had been hit over 15 million times. so when the people want to do business that's what they check so even max b was just saying oh i we're whack at yeah come through we're at like it's i lied i said i lied max up he didn't know it i knew he was going up there and i knew you know and i knew i gave certain questions you know to ask and i knew he was gonna lie you know he just didn't think that i'm gonna go back up there and I got all this paperwork and the recorders of him on the stand tell it.

3:05:05You don't know I got that. So and that's another thing I come with this exposure shit. You know what I'm saying? We expose so many people, the people they tell me, well whack you snitching on the snitches. So that's the most clever shit? I'm like, wait, what the fuck? Hold on. Like, because I see motherfuckers is mad. I be mad. And I see you like entertaining it, but you're not mad. You're just like, motherfucker, like whatever. I'm going to go back and forth like the Lush. It was just like, I'm just throwing this out there. Now, I'm going to tell you what fucked you up because you were a thinker.

3:05:41You said, whack, got this nigga. Now, what Lush didn't know is he set the stage. He said, bitch ass, punk ass, bust ass nigga. And when I see you, if you touch me, I'm going to sue you and call the police. So now he set the stage, well, okay, we can't get content like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now what I'm going to do is I put the team to work, the exposures with the work, the clubhouse team with the work, and they said, Wack, one of your business partners owns the building. Bullshit. And they like, yeah, you had him in here one day in one of our business conversations. So I called him. I said, hey, he like, yeah.

3:06:16I said, okay, check this. They said, yeah, he there. I said, all right, give me a contact. So now I'm with Lush. So I'm telling Lush, in 30 minutes, they're going to give you a write-up for using your phone. And they're going to move you across the street to room five. And he's responding, oh, you just talking. 30 minutes later, he's so up in the head, he goes on his Instagram and be like, yeah, I just got moved. But in his head, he's trying to make it look like it's no big deal. Right. But I'm knowing he's wondering how to know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the most shitty talk, I just kept putting up the same clip.

3:06:52because he wants me to threaten him. I see his game, right? So I'm going to just put up the same clip. So then I fed him some bad information. I asked somebody on the Hunter side getting his DM, yo, this is one of the wack houses in Vegas. Put this shit up. He going to go crazy. So what did he do? He put it up. So then I text Lush. I said, Lush, I'd be wrong if I send some dudes over here to kick that door in based upon you told the world that's where I live and I've never had nothing to do. I'm fucking with his head. Why? Why? Because my war with you now is to keep you so out of focus that you never rehabilitate.

3:07:27Yeah, and that's what I figured out. I was like, this dude is so diabolical, he got this motherfucking focused on him. And I was like, you saw when I said, dude, you went to another addiction. You addicted to going in this beef. You left the drugs and now you addicted here. And he's not focused on this. And you knew it. I did it on purpose. And now I was like, that's another thing. Because I'm paying. I was like, dude, this motherfucker is diabolical. I'm going to fuck your whole two weeks up. That's it. Because he's sponsored over there. He's not paying. He's got to sponsor. So this shit's going to be limited.

3:08:01So the other day when he was like, y 'all, man, I think I'm going to leave. That's because he had just got his second write-up. Oh, really? Yeah, he got his second write-up. I know he got his second write-up because I told him to write him up. Go fuck with him. I'm going to show you my phone. I'm going to show you right now. They're going to tell you. Wacky just got his second write-up. God, dog. See, because Buggs is playing checkers. Yeah. Look.

3:08:33Look, this Saturday, look. Read it. Let's read it to you. Look, you watching it. I'm playing with him from over here. You know, I've been watching The Godfathers as I was like nine, ten years old. They just said, we want to do more, but... So then I text him and say, you just got your second write-up. I'm going to wait to give you the third one because that gets you out of there. I said, I'm going to let you know and I'm going to get you back to MacArthur Park. So what he's doing, what he does, what I want him to do. Yeah, he goes in his day. Yeah, rocks a bitch in this. So what he's not doing is reading his shit and getting focused and getting clean.

3:09:17So what triggered you to feel this way about him, though? Because that's some kind of fucked up shit. That's like nephew. Every time I see nephew, he's the same towards me. Okay. I see Lush, he's the same towards me. And all of a sudden, the nigga just started talking crazy. Like, this is a harmless guy. So was J-Hood correct when we were saying that you had got the clip? The clip was out of context? I got the clip. I called in. I said, look, bro. And I can't wait till that trial happens because I'm going to sit back and laugh at everybody because I'm telling the thing. It's like, hey, bro, me and Big U stopped talking 2020.

3:09:57Literally. What no more communicate? His investigations are 2021, 2025 because everybody's like, you niggas were so close. How you ain't in the shed? Well, nigga, we wasn't even dealing with each other. So I don't know what the fuck. a nigga doing? You know, that's a few people in my life where I don't deal with like that, right? So, when Lush said what he said and I know you sit there and say, Lush, you really just said, nigga, Munchy said he passed a bottle to a nigga that killed the nigga on an unsolved murder every week. And just, nigga, I told you what I did. Wack went and did that. That's what Wack did.

3:10:37Big U didn't even pursue. He way back there. He don't know what the conversation was. So, but what he doesn't realize is when it comes out and he doesn't get that, when I seen that they put hands on Future, I've never known Future to be touched ever in my life, not out here. I've never seen it. So I knew right then and there that that's one of his homeboys telling him this shit or fabricating it and then come to find out. I get a call. They're like, wait, you didn't know the week before they really touched him at the SLS. because when Future looked over and took off kind of running, it kind of shocked me because I didn't know Future.

3:11:13Okay. I knew who he was. We had no dealings or no nothing. So now it makes sense because I guess a week or 10 days prior to that, he just get knocked out by one of the codees that's on Dude's case. So his running wasn't about me. It was about him, but I'm oblivious. So it's like, wait, we know you don't know about this shit, And we know the person that told him this had to have been there when the knocking out happened. Because I was like, bro, I don't know nothing about that. So Lush, it ain't really his fault. Because back then he wasn't part of that world. And even today he's not part of that world.

3:11:50And when people are reading that really ain't really did no time or don't understand what they read, they jump to all kind of conclusions. But with him, I think the dude, what's the Mexican dude he been going at? Combo Raider. The copperator said it best, you went a few places you can't come back from. And I don't know if he was high or what, but he went a few places and he knows that. Rob Markman But he went there, but did you entrap that motherfucker? Because he was going in on him? Did you want him to go there? Rob Markman No, I called and addressed him. I called and addressed him when I called in.

3:12:32And, you know, it's been two, three occasions, man, Lush do shit. I done saved Lush around here, bro. He literally told 30 Crips, nigga, Adam's wife called the police on him. He asked Adam, and Adam said no. Adam tried to agree with him. Listen, Adam, no, because that's why Adam suspended him. This is a fact. On our show, when I said it, he said, yeah, he did do that shit. He told little Travis Ford that shit from Main Street. Travis the one called me, talking about, hey bro, what's up with this? I said, what? I said, man, that lady wasn't even there. Oh, with the birthday cake and all this. Yeah, I said, that lady wasn't even there.

3:13:05He said, Lush telling her she the one called the police on those other movies. I said, bro, she wasn't even there. So when I called Lush, he was like, whack, I was just nervous. I just said, you can't say that though, bro. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But I think Lush is at a point in his life where he don't know his girl then left him. He's spiraling out And he's doing like I didn't know like four or five drugs At the same time So he ain't in the same mind But you know he didn't He didn't say some shit about a couple people To where I'm just gonna sit back and watch the show I said dude You said some shit where it's not him It's more people that's gonna be upset about that It's family members Yeah I ain't even gotta You did that And the dangerous part is Lush ain't like that To where when he out he like that So he gonna be somewhere, ain't paying no attention.

3:13:56And one of them, somebody's family members or homies from their neighborhood go see him. And that's how it happened. You know what I'm saying? He didn't went past beyond being able to apologize for something. You know what I'm saying? So, and I can't take him serious because, bro, Lush is a harmless kitten. No disrespect. Like, I know this shit. So when he's popping it, I don't hear that. You know what I'm saying? I don't, like, nigga, I don't. I don't hear... What he wanted me to do was threaten him, send him some threatening shit and say some threatening shit. So then he'd go over here, file a little fake lawsuit that he know ain't going nowhere, but it's content for him.

3:14:35So what I did was just kept putting up the clip of him getting slapped. Rob Markman Yeah. It's... But like the... Rob Markman And he would get upset. Rob Markman He's getting upset. He just doing the easy thing. Like it's just like the easy... Like I just do this, do this. But I had brought it up to Adam because it was like so like you get along with people, you don't get along with people, and it seems like they slowly are exiting out the building. Who? And that's what I was like looking. Which one? Who? Like so I thought it was like a strategic play when you brought Long Beach up here, right?

3:15:11Long Beach. P-Nice, D-Dub. Oh, no. No, I brought D-Dub up here. You got to remember, me and D-Dub was close, and he's over there part of the Incredibles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with Nick. Yeah, yeah. So I brought D-Dub up here. There was no P-Nice at the time. Okay. And we brought D-Dub up here, pod with him, got him in. He set him on the show with Brick and all that shit. So once I got him in, he was in. So he was doing his own thing, and then they gave him his own show, which he created with his brother. Yeah. Right? Yeah. He brought his brother in, brought P-Nice. P-Nice got a dose of it and learned what he learned.

3:15:46it was a good thing because he got his own podcast. But I definitely opened the door. I definitely opened the door for him. Right. And so I was just, my thought process was like, this dude is bringing in pieces. You know what I mean? That he thinks is going to bubble and that also are allies. You know what I mean? Well, you bring in a piece, you would hope your piece will be your ally. Listen, man, if I could make a thousand motherfuckers filthy rich, that means when I get old and can't walk, maybe a nigga might push me a block or two. I don't, I don't, I'm not a gatekeeper to where I'm locking doors.

3:16:22I'm opening them up for them. You get what I'm saying? So they know they can come to me. This is what I'm trying to do. This is what I'm, and if I can help, I'm going to help. So if I bring a piece in, yeah, I'm going to bring, I'm not going to bring a hop in because I'm not conversating with you, but I'm going to bring a motherfucker in and then get them in and get them situated and I'm going to get out they way. Notice I get out they way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I let them do their, create. Don't do your thing. You got to plant that seed. I did my part. You know what I'm saying? But you got to remember, that's why I tell people, the gangbang shit don't work with me.

3:16:52Right. Because it's like when we just called his man from East Coast, you can't call him saying, whoop, whoop, whoop. Man, this nigga from Pop. Yeah, that's cool. That's Unc, though. Nigga, hold on. Unc came over here, nigga, and when we called Unc and we needed it, that nigga going to tell you when I was looking at 27 years and them bloods was telling on me, he made sure the telling went away and I'm home. That's what he going to tell you. You know what I'm saying? So it's kind of like, you know, certain areas is right. That's what it is. Because if you call me, I'm not going to ask you where you're from based upon an issue.

3:17:23What's up? Who got you calling me? What is he trying to do? And if I can extend my hand, I'm going to extend my hand. And I'm going to keep moving. I hope next time I run into you, your ass then bubbled up. Only thing I tell a nigga, the only thing you owe me is answer the phone. Answer the phone. Is there the value in like the Vlaz, like the platforms that you talked about that you brought up earlier? are you doing those because it's profitable or valuable for other things going on? The friendship and the relationship is valuable. And then I'm able to show them that I'm valuable in other areas.

3:17:57Okay. Like Vlad came to the baby shower that R &B did for Blueface as a child, right? So Vlad gets there. He said, damn, this is a big house. I said, like a$60 million house. He said, come on, Vlad, let me take you to meet the people. So I'll tell you been there. We got the owner of Rich Carlton. We got the owner of Lamborghini. We got my other guy. He buys a lot of industrial buildings. Like Vlad, he's all my business partners. Brothers, Vlad is one of your brothers. He's Jewish. So you must really f*** with Vlad. Like you f*** with Vlad. To even bring him into that, to meet him and do that, you f*** with him for real.

3:18:29Yeah, I f*** with Vlad. So me and Vlad beefed for 10 years. Oh. That was on the internet. I didn't know that. Yeah, you remember when I hit it first song? Yeah. We had a Kim Kardashian lookalike. Yeah. Vlad came to the show. I said, Vlad, don't put the shit out. You're going to blow the cover. She was looking like that was a catch. I get a call 1030. That shit is up. The bitch is up. Oh, shit. I flipped out. It was on. Yeah. Talking like 2010. So niggas is still on some bullshit kind of lightweight, right? So for 10 years or better, me and Vlad, it was a problem, right? Until we sat down and hashed it out.

3:19:06But, you know, since then, you know, we've sat down, we did some business. I used to go over there. He used to have four or five security guards. Now, there ain't no security guard. He called and asked me if I could send some, right? Yeah. I'm in the building with people, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm in the building with people. That's my thing is to build with people because that's where we fall short is we don't share the resources. so that's what let's go to so we the the connection on the streets is cold right like you got your cold connections but then the room that you bring vlad into these owners of these things the difference between these organizations are the way that they uh structure their shit are we bringing that back to like our community like and saying like hey this is how we build motherfuckers like we think that this shit that we're doing here is major but what let me tell you what's major This is how you have to be.

3:20:02I'm going to be real. One thing I fought Martin Luther King for is dying at 39. Or some shit that he died for desegregation. And we turned around and segregated ourselves. So listen, I am definitely pro-black. But I am American. I deal in the American way. Meaning everybody. Everybody. I understand if I isolate myself and go back over here with just everybody that look like me, there's going to be some niggas that's jealous of me, some niggas that might knock me down because of what I'm trying to do, because everybody is saying, hey, he's trying to help us. So I deal with within that way. Now, it just happened to be eight brothers.

3:20:48Yeah. Who? But I'm not going to discriminate against my Asian partners and my Jewish partners. So whoever wants to come to the table is who I'm going to do the business with or who I'm going to help. You know, I sit at a lot of tables. You watch me take Clavico, who was banned from the clubs in Miami because he went in there and played a Nazi song with some crazy shit. Did he? And then within 48 hours, get him unbanned, sit him down with all the owners of the clubs, and get him a club, the first streamer club in Miami. And I got on the plane and left. Clav said, wait, ain't no way they ain't gonna let me in there.

3:21:27I said, they gonna let you in there. I said, tomorrow you gonna get a visitor. He called me, said, hey bro, them dudes that banned me, the owners in front of my driveway. I said, I sent them to you. Open the door. Not only did you get him back unbanned, he got his own club. That's the streaming club. That was the streaming club. So guess what? Now let's just say I'm sitting in a meeting. They like, yeah, man, we want to do this, do this. We got some crazy ban deals. and if we can get a hold of a guy like Clive, we got$10 million for him. Clive, what up? Guy got a bunch of brand deals. Can I discuss them?

3:21:59Go ahead, Unc. My phone book is crazy. If I gave you my phone book and you scroll through there, my phone book is nuts. People that people can't get to, they're going to pick up one call. And been building for years. Been building for years. Decades. Years and years and years. Years and years and years. I was somewhere. The dude was like, he said, hey, rope, right? incredible diapers. I heard you say it on no jumpers. Yeah. He said, man, I was in Nigeria and I seen a billboard. I said, yeah, I do business with the government out there. He said, yeah. They kept saying Floyd Mayweather because he's one of my business partners on diapers.

3:22:38She wouldn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it's kind of like this is just to keep me where I need to be so I can help youngsters like that. Right. Right? Right? That doesn't hinder me from still doing - Yeah. I have literally in this building, Adam doesn't know it, creep know it, because he know him, had diplomats from the embassy sitting right here, and you would never know it.

3:23:06Right? I didn't had, like, right here. They like - I said, man, I got to go to No Jumper. Oh, okay, yeah, man, we'll meet you up there. They come in, you know, they got the hoker shoes on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you was to say, hey, Wack, let me holler at you, man. I'm trying to buy some shit. My credit is, okay, here, take this number. I'm telling my card. They don't get your shit right. And I'm out. Right? You know what I'm saying? So it's kind of like however you want to get to know me is how you're going to get to know me. If you go talk the viral way, them Long Beach niggas, they're going to tell you, hey, bro, one day I was on the phone with Wack.

3:23:40And Wack said, why you ain't doing that with Snoop? Oh, man, we don't really know Snoop. I'm like, y 'all from Long Beach. Hold on. Let me call Snoop. I call Snoop. Hey, Snoop got his thing, Viral Way. Let me send you something on him. Yeah, I kind of f*** with him. You know I said, y 'all need to get together. I'm going to put you in a group text with Viral Way. And he going to tell you, whack, put us in a group text with Snoop Dogg and stamped it. And from there, they was in there with Snoop Dogg. Shout out Viral Way. That's cold. He's his long beach niggas that I see some potential in. Me and Snoop got long, great relationship.

3:24:10He trusts my judgment. And I'm hoping that plug leads to something. You see what I'm saying? So most niggas won't be like, nah man, fuck all that. I ain't finna put them niggas in position. No. Now guess what? I look up and viral wave turns into the next great sensation and whack me something.

3:24:31You facilitating that. You building bridges and - I got bridges everywhere, bro. I got bridges in places you would never imagine. So do you see - You man in certain countries. If you call me and say, whack, I'm in Dubai and the motherfuckers is tripping over my all right, then I'm going to make one phone call and the diplomatic people going to come over there and put you in the suite and sit a guard in the hallway for you. Why? Because I got business with them people. Know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's however you want to know me, if you want to troll, then that's what you're going to know. Yeah, exactly.

3:25:06If you want to say, hey, whack, look, bro, I'm trying to, then you, however you want to know me is how you're going to know me. That's like playing at your competition's level. I meet you at your level. The low-level gangbang shit, that's just juvenile hall YA county jail character. Yeah. I don't give a fuck about none of that. Yeah. I can care less about it. You know, people that know me will tell you that. But if you was like, yo, whack, I'm trying to this, I'm trying to this, I'm trying to that, I'm trying to that. Like when I'm on kick or state, those phone calls come from overseas. People they deal with here is one thing.

3:25:41All right, nephew. Oh, shit. You're out of trouble, man. Oh, y 'all, you especially. All right. Now, hey. Dico got your... All right.

3:25:54Then, uh...

3:25:58You ever lose it, Youngson from Six Deuce, Dico from Eight Nines, always know how to get to me. 24-7.

3:26:10So like with you, I'm curious about... All right, man. Have a good one, brother. When I seen you come back, when you come here, I said, okay, you're getting in front of the crowd. So I'm watching you, and I seen a few people trying to do what you do, like Ricky, Moose Man, that's trying to use this, and then only one person that's been successful at getting big at it. Flacco. Yeah. Right? So I'm like, okay, he came from over there. I seen he got his shit set up. And then this. So it makes sense. So now it's kind of like, okay, what's his most? He was, what's, what make a nigga curious about you?

3:26:47They don't know what you are. Yeah. They're like, okay, this motherfucker. You run with the brothers. Is he fucking Mexican? Is he Mexican? What is it? Yeah. Love. Got you. So. I love you. Hey, gang. Yeah, I can just follow you while we're on the couch. Right? So the thing with you is, what is it you trying to accomplish? So I always tell people, like, I know the power of intent and moving with a purpose and a message, right? I could easily, when I came over here, easily been like, I'm going to go at T-Rail. I'm going to go at this whole thing. I'm going to go viral and do this stuff. or when people are talking about me, like, hit back.

3:27:34Oh, they talk about you? Like, you know, they do their little things. It's content kind of shit. They may be serious, maybe not, but that's not my lane. My lane is to stay smooth and opera. Everything I said, they said, I was just trolling. No, I know. Yeah, they never said none of that. No, and so it's like, but just like other people say things or this and that, it's like I'm not getting into that because me being this way is good for me and my family. You know what I mean? And if I don't go viral, that's cool because the words that I'm saying is making an impact. If somebody can be like, how the hell Rios get up there?

3:28:05He ain't even beefing with nobody. He ain't got no shit going on. But I'm going to be real. Like, the viral shit is one lane. Like, my wife, R &B, she's setting up her thing called Love Lessons. But that's like the relationship side of shit. And that shit's big over there. Kevin Samuels. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And you know, so the building always needs the total opposite. Yeah. And that's what, and I'm just saying. We had a female one. I don't know what happened to her. She left Tam. Yeah. Tam was the total opposite. But she was a female, so maybe she didn't want to dive off into a lot of shit.

3:28:40Yeah. With you, it's a little tricky because a motherfucker look at you, and if you're having a conversation about something they think you don't know about, don't know that you come from that. Right. You can have the conversation. Exactly. So I know already, I'm like, okay, I know what I'm dealing with, right? But my thing is, okay, what's your move? Are you still working your channel? I'm still on my channel. I'm still building. I even monetize a second channel, right? And so it's slowly climbing back up because I had to break out of that shit and go to another lane because what I was going to do was I was going to split my channel.

3:29:14But just coming over here, not everybody was feeling this shit. You know what I mean? like and I had to. That's because they see no jumper. How they see no jumper. This motherfucker is a university free fall. So, you know, they say, don't trust whack. Well, I'm going to deal with you. You deal with me. Whatever happens, you know, they got nothing to do with you. Right, right. And you ultimately got to know what your direction is, what you want to do. You know what I'm saying? And it's a whole other lane out there because you could be the clean lane from No Jumper. And that's what I'm trying to do.

3:29:56And people say, oh, you don't want to go over there and spare. Adam is this. Adam is that. And I'm like, dude, if I feel like I have a message for my people, you think I don't feel like I got a message for they people? You know what I mean? And show if, oh, we complaining. Ain't nothing but gangsters over there. Ain't nothing but gangsters over there. And I know my background. I know where I come from. You know what I mean? It's like that's my comfort zone. You know what I mean? But I can also show y 'all how to operate and be normal or cool and conversate and have communication. You ain't got to.

3:30:29You didn't notice that I never allowed the Adam and Wax show to turn into Gang Bang Central? I noticed it. Never allowed it. He tried and never allowed it. Right? But I'll make them continue to have the conversation about me on their Gang Bang podcast. That shit is fucking... Right. It is what it is, man. It's kind of like, you know, it's kind of like knowing how to utilize your enemy for your own leverage. That's what it is. And they're going to stay mad because they're trying to figure me out. And you ain't going to figure me out because I'm only dealing with you with the character I want you to see.

3:31:10Right. You know what I'm saying? Like with you, it's going to always be a totally different conversation. Yeah. Right? And the minute they're going to tell you, oh, you dick, rod, whack, and all this, this is they main thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're glad. I'll be like, what do you mean? Me and the brother ain't got no fucking problem. So why the fuck are we supposed to have a problem? Right. And I'm going to be real. I'm glad you did a thing with Doughboy because looking at what Adam was trying to do with that Monday show, right? you the description of what he wanted him to see. Doughboy probably know that.

3:31:46You know what I'm saying? Because that was supposed to be the clean show. Okay. That was supposed to be the show that built a total different audience. It had nothing to do with our crazy shit. Yeah. But Doughboy was all over the place, and they kind of like was feeling the way they feeling about him. So, you know, and I believe, you know, and Moose, Moose Man is great at what he does and he needed a side he needs somebody to bounce some shit off of so you know looking at it I'm like that's probably what's gonna end up happening um cause I seen Adam speaking about what it what the future looks like and I don't know bro some shit ain't for everybody right I've seen rappers that I think are phenomenal but the people just don't they do them yeah you know what I'm saying It's just like it's something not there.

3:32:39Something's missing. They might be good here, but just not good in this. It is in that. You know what I mean? And see, again, with you, I think you can cross those different barriers. You could be a dude like the Mexican podcast. I forget all their names, like Hoodstocks and shit like that. Yeah. Like they don't really like letting us over there, but they'll let you over there. You see what I'm saying? Because of the ambiguity. You would, and big with it. For whatever reason, they don't f*** with being out of like that cool. I think the other dude was out the way. Haters World probably let me back over there.

3:33:16He been texting me. But what I'm saying is, you the guy from this building that can go sit in them seats. Yeah. I've seen it. You know what I mean? Pave your lane. Yeah, you know what I mean? I've seen it and I've felt it. And it's like just waiting for, just, and I'm, I've established myself. You gotta reach out. I was at SpaceX for six years. I was building rockets. You know what I mean? Oh, shit. Yeah, you been down to Brownsville? I was going to move to Brownsville in Texas. I'm saying that. Did you ever go that way? No, I left before that. I went to McGregor. I went to Florida. I can show you shit on my phone.

3:33:45That'll fuck you up. Dude, I remember when he was talking about building Brownsville. That's how long ago I was there. But I was on the second stage. I'm going to show you some shit. Yeah, dude. Elon let me use my phone down there in ways you ain't supposed to. Dude. I've been down there. I've been in the rockets, under the rockets, on top, in the hole of them. Me, him, and Kanye kicked it down there for eight or nine hours Went to the community he built It's some crazy shit He picked us up on his jet in Austin, Texas This nigga's jet I done been on a lot of jets And it just made me realize the jet I ain't been on This is a different caliber of jet The wingspan, the quietness, the speed of this motherfucker He sent the jet to get us We come in there and land And we kicked it with him And he like, Wack, go ahead on, man You turn your phone like I got shit in my thing where I'm standing on top where they building the rockets, nigga, when you get me recording shit.

3:34:37You know what I'm saying? So if you ever get in a conversation with him, be like, hey, I got a dude that's on the show hosting, co-hosting, that snuck in SpaceX as a janitor and same day started working on the rocket. They brought me in as a janitor, and I lied and said, hey, they told me to come check in with you. He's like, with me? I was like, yeah. Damn. And from that day, because they were showing me room closets and shit. I was like, the fuck? They all got me fucked up. And so I went right to the engines. And I was like, I need to be over here. And that same day, I was in the rocket. That's crazy, bro.

3:35:12Same day. And I was studying. They was telling me to go get shit. I ain't never worked mechanical shit in my life. I was going to the bathroom and Googling shit, what they was telling me to get. I would go to the bathroom, Google it, and then go get the shit and bring it in the rocket. That's what I'm saying. So look, you got to get your channel going, man. You got to start working that channel. every day bro so I'm going live you know Flacco? I know I don't know Flacco you ever talk to Flacco? no I put you on line with Flacco Flacco's a very interesting but valuable guy he knows his game in a way I know he knows it I know he has understanding that shit cause you can just see it you can see that shit he knows it and he don't mind helping people you gotta get on line with Flacco he's gonna tell you to do a few things that you're going to be like, yo, bro, are you meaning fucking telling me?

3:36:03You're like, yeah, this is what you do. Just for your channel. Just for your channel. You don't see nobody as a threat. He's already doing his thing. Yeah, he's killing it. He's going to, you know, he'll give you some direction. You know what I mean? So Flacco, Flacco doing six figures every month off YouTube. That shit's crazy. I want to ask this. I don't know how long we're going to be here, but I want to ask you one thing before. Because what I, like how I be looking at it, I'm like, Like, this dude is trying to get, not trying to, but the future is owning a station or, like, a broadcast. Like, what is the, like, the real large goal?

3:36:42Entertainment has changed. It went 50 different ways. The large, right now, the real move is to create our system because until we create our system, We'll never know the real pay scale. Right? And we got the power to create the system just like our people, we spend the most money on shit, but it's only so many of us, right? And when it comes to entertainment, I want to be in a situation where we have the system like Gaziant Empire. Empire is 10 times bigger than Death Row Records ever was. Why? Because Empire is powered by Empire. Right. Def Rowe was powered by Interscope. It's powered by UMG.

3:37:32So guess what Gazi knows? He knows the real number to everything. See what I'm saying? So can you imagine looking at YouTube and we know YouTube pays us X amount per million, right? Yeah. We really don't know. No, what YouTube it. Damn. And I'll never be able to do it the pro-black way. but I can definitely get it done the American way. Which will benefit. The American way are my business partners who doesn't mind whack-heading that company and creating that company. And what is it you need? Yeah, we know the people. Let's get it going for you. You know, I'm behind a lot. I got a call the other day to Deaf Row building.

3:38:17Guy brought it, looking for some financing. He's doing some salon suites, like 150 of them. Yeah. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I come over there and see him. Oh, shit, you really doing this? Okay, what is it you need? I need this, this, this. Boom, boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom. Hey, you over here? Pull up. Came up. This what he want. This, that. That's all he want. Yeah. Whack, paper it up. We'll get him his money. So then, you know, you look at it and it's kind of like, you know what I'm saying? I'm the ultimate middleman. I will tell you that. But then I still do my own shit. Yeah. I'm a crazy middleman.

3:38:52You're like, oh, this is what you need. You need this over here. You can be telling me something over here and I already had the loose wire over here. Right. It's just a call to connect. You made yourself invaluable. Like you are... You can't shut me down. They can't do without. Let's say you say, we shut him down in the streets. I'm still on the 80th floor. Right. We shut him down in California. I'm down in Miami because we got five clubs and some rooftops, a couple yachts. We shut him down in the U.S. Well, I'm in the U.K. And now I'm building the ultimate. Manufacturing centers in DRC in Nigeria.

3:39:33We just got approved. We got our free trade zone certificate. Are you getting your citizenship? Is that citizenship? Dual, definitely. Are you getting your dual citizenship in Nigeria? I have a company where I'm partnering with the government now over there. I was going to ask you why Nigeria over Ghana, but because of the connections. I have a certificate in the free trade zone. Ooh. Now, I know a lot of niggas talk about what's gangster. That's gangster. And so wait. A lot of people don't even understand what I just said. I do. And the way that that money moves out there, how many times it has to change.

3:40:07Okay, you know how when Trump says, oh, China, we're mad. We're putting tariffs on your shit. They won't be able to do that to me because I can just ship straight from there. I don't got to ship from there. Right. Even though I still got them there in case I got to fill some orders. But I'm playing a different type of game. And I think what confuses people is his ass will be in the sandbox. He'll be over there. He'll be up under the car, in the trunk of the car, driving the car. Who the fuck is he? I'm whoever it is you want me to be based upon how we deal with each other. That's how I was until I started really looking.

3:40:46And I was like, oh, no. I was fucked up. Like, no, no, no. It's really going to fuck them up if they see you with a picture with Ibrahim Traore, the Burkina Faso dude. I got like a thousand questions. I could talk to you forever, man. Nah, I'm giving you my number. Listen, I kept pumping, and people that know me know, like, if you an op, I'm not going to say your name. Yeah, there's no point. Well, if I fuck with you, I'm going to say your name. So that's why I kept, what's up with that motherfucker? Rios. So when people catch on, they like, okay, this nigga is, because people going to be in your DM, don't Rios, that nigga wax it.

3:41:26Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I always know what I'm doing. Yeah. I never don't know what I'm doing. Right. And if you sit back, see, you would think, first you was moving fast, you're like, oh, I'm at this motherfucker. Yeah. And then you're like, hold on, man. This nigga just made a wild U-turn. Where the fuck did that come from? And then you was like, wait. and then that's when you went in your think tank. Yeah, I went in my think tank. I was like, oh, I've been looking at this shit wrong. But even when I came into the game of this streaming podcast, I came in blind. You know what I mean?

3:41:56Like, not really. What happened? Why? So you left because of the night shift. So you and Pond and all y 'all still cool. I'm still cool with Pond. I'm still cool with everybody. I can't say if everybody's necessarily cool with me. You know what I mean? But I give people grace to be upset. Them dudes don't hold grudges like that. So I'm not mad. So I don't think they're mad. And I don't. Against Adam, yeah. Yeah. They can't stand Adam motherfucking ass. But they don't hold grudges like that. I'm not upset at all. And it's like, I want, and I always say this, I want us all to win. And if I had to do some shit to take some bullets to run through this brick wall, but I'm bringing people with me.

3:42:30Listen, you're a different situation. That's why you're going to work. Look, just don't change up. Just be you. That's what I'm on. No matter what, just be you. I'm going to wrap this shit up. Let's get out of here. Get out. Thank you.