OG Gumby Presses Adam for Disrespecting the Hoovers, Goes off on 4xtra for the Carrot Attack & More

26:43that you that that thinking right there is empowering and emboldening people. Not caring about what gang people are from. Yes. Because of this right here. Listen. Like I said before, my community already sees from neighborhood. Your name is Adam 12 from neighborhood. I'm gang. What is nigga from? I'm gang. You got even more specific. I'm gang. I don't got it. None of them think that for the record. Okay. Well, I don't know. We're going to ask every role in 40s. Is Adam from here? They're going to say, hell the fuck no. I mean, we know you don't game back. Yeah. We're just saying you on their side.

27:22I don't play favorites. You're just on their side. Oh, yeah, you do? No. Okay, then. So it's our turn? Like your shit going down here without us? What? Yeah, it's going here. Nah, it's been a good week. Niggas blowing their hands off? It's been a good month. Yeah. Well, besides that. I'm saying that's the only thing. what you got to blow people hands up around here before you get some good numbers what's happening nigga i'm actually very opposed to that yeah you sure yeah okay i'm just saying no way my whole thing is that like my whole thing is that like i think it's about time i'm saying the industry open the doors i'm saying and hear our side of the story all you hear about us is we this we that oh they gay they gay that but everything they do is gay what you mean you never heard that like actually gay?

28:03What you mean? I'm saying what's the word they use? The disrespect the disrespectful word? Disrespectful the disrespectful word? We don't say? But I didn't think that was meaning like actually gay. I thought it was just like a diss. I know he playing stupid right now. No, no, no. Stop playing, Adam. Come on, man. Like, listen to me. Like, listen to me, bro. Like, I don't know. Like, I'm not one of these dudes, bro. I'm already going to hell, bro. I love how you always say that. I am. I hope. So what I'm trying to explain to you, listen, like our core, where we from, like we really good people.

28:38I'm not saying nobody else ain't. I'm just saying you're giving them opportunities, right? And this is a big, major platform, right? Won't you give us all an opportunity to do something good, bro? You know what I'm saying? I mean, I definitely haven't stopped giving out opportunities. And definitely the opportunities I have given out were never based on what anyone was from outside of considerations about people being able to get along. How you did T-Rail now? T-Rail and the other homies from Compton? What did I do to them? I don't know. Ever since you stopped fucking with them, you just shifted everything.

29:11This ain't just our opinion. This is everybody's opinion across the United States. I'm not saying it's not true. You can say it, but you can say whatever the fuck you want. I don't think anybody who seriously watches the podcast, and I'm going to be real, I'm in the Reddit every day. I'm in the comments every day. I've never really seen anybody who really watches the podcast thinking that I'm like so in favor of the neighborhood Crips because I don't like T-Rell. Like, honestly, that's a new argument from my perspective. I mean, but this is, look, just look at the succession of things. Someone asked me what it mean when you say that.

29:43I already got on you about that. I hope, bro. Apologies about that also. Yeah, because niggas gonna get on your bumper about that. Like, I keep telling you, bro, we breeding different over here. They playing with y 'all. Like, literally. Like, see, we've been blackballed out this industry for a long time, right? I wanted to talk about that. Yeah. Yeah, we need to talk about that as well. Where did that begin? It began with... It began... You want to get a mic too? Come on. Up to you. Oh, come on. What's Trigg at? Trigg's supposed to be up here right now too. Okay. But at the same time, listen.

30:24Because you've been around to see the origin of it Presumably, right? But not presumably, for sure, nigga For sure How old are you? I'm 50 I've been from this shit since I was 10 I've been claiming this shit since I was 10 I got put on in junior high school Crazy story A motherfucker, my brother got killed A motherfucker named Poop from 9 Deuce He didn't like my brother So he sick, Bambino And a fucking baby daddy on me In little chilly front yard on Hoover Street. Welcome Poke to the podcast. Gang shit. So ugly. Hoover this, Hoover that, stop playing though. And we look better than fools. Stop playing.

31:05Stop playing. Stop playing. Y 'all got all y 'all shit from us. Stop playing. How they dress, how they act, all that. So do you remember when the Hoover's reputation was not as controversial and then it became that at a certain point? Like, what was the biggest point where it shifted, where you started to feel like it was enemies against everybody? That was all from the beginning. From the beginning. From the very beginning. Like, I can only explain to you, you know what I'm saying, from like, what I'm saying, like the 80s on up, you know what I'm saying, I went to jail in 94, you know what I'm saying?

31:41I can run you through that real quick if that's what you want. Sure. You know what this is? Like that's it. A Gumby point. All right. Oh, so you already knew it was called that. What you mean? This is New York. What you mean, bro? Listen, I'm a dude. All right, bro. I promise you. Yeah. I promise you. I promise you. I'm over. Dang shit. Man, we need a torch for that. I'm over. I left it in the fucking Hummer. We left it in the Hummer. We left it in the Hummer. I'm over, pulled up in the Hummer. The Hummer is insane. I'm over. Stop playing with me, though. We put up eight dick in a motherfucking truck.

32:14Just hold on. Don't even trip, though. My whole thing is that we're not here. The whole thing about it is that... Well, I personally feel, right, that you got, I won't even say it like that because I don't want to be disrespectful to nobody. You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, you got a bunch of bullshit going on in your midst, right? And ain't nobody investigating. The name of my shit is Checking Ain't Cheating. It's only cheating if you ain't checking. I'm hovin' out. I'm hovin' out. Pay attention. See, a lot of people, they try to impress themselves to be bigger than they are. With us, it's the difference, because we don't.

32:56Okay. The city can see who we is. The whole city ganged up against us. That's what Wack always says. Wack always says, the reason why I respect the Hoover's is because I've never seen a hood go against everyone else in the city. And guess what? We stood on Bennett's. that's it and that's all everybody peace treating doing all that shit this the thing though see the difference the difference from us and what you guys done seen already with the big youth situation and extortion and all that shit like y 'all ain't gotta nobody ain't got in our community they don't gotta pay us rent they help raise us but you mean pay rent we gonna press some people that love us nah we don't do that see over here we got a different philosophy.

33:45We don't got to be tough all the time. We don't need to be tough when we're supposed to be tough. When our name called, we're going to show out every time. We're going to let all the other niggas talk about this, that, and the other. Talk about how the whole city crips and bloods and ganged up against one gang and we're still here. Hoover though. Hoover though. It's still like that? You see it. I know you see it. I mean, I don't know. Have you ever came and hanged in the Hoovers? I just asked him. I just asked him. I've seen you letting a lot of other white boys pull up there. Who? So you pull up.

34:20What's wrong with you? Why you? You scared? No, I'm done. I'm sorry. Ain't the only white boys that people pull up. Did they flip pull up? Tommy G pulled up, right? Yep. Okay. So where you at, Adam? Let's do it. I'm saying, when we're doing this, you can come to and explain who you are. We're going to take you on fig. Where the hoes at? Nah, we can't do that. No, we're going to. We can't do that. We have to. No, we can't give him no extra content. He's going to be trying to have his white fuck the prostitutes on the street. We ain't doing nothing. What I'm saying, though, on some real shit, though, like literally, like I'm saying, like, why y 'all don't think we worthy of what y 'all worthy of?

34:55I mean, I haven't been to that many neighborhoods in L.A. over the years. You just went to the 40s whole Saturday. You ain't came to Hooper Saturday. I bet you won't. And I feel like I told you before, I feel like that question you asked my nephew and we ain't gonna keep going, we ain't gonna linger on it, but I feel that they put that in your head to ask why the fuck would you ask that shit? I feel like you would be amazed if you understood how little conversations I ever had with Brick Baby, Forex, Chris McGee, et cetera, about the Hovers. This is just not the order. I've seen it. It's just the order.

35:21We're not talking about that. But then that you know I'm from Hoover, you know what that means. So why would you do that? We're not even going to linger on that. Because the niggas don't belong. Don't do that because I already told him if I was here on game, your team would have been having to shoot it out with me on game because we don't play like that. I don't play like that. But let me, I'm just trying to make it. He knows, though, how much I was not going to put that clip out. That clip didn't come out for months. I told you to put it out, though. He told me to put it out. Okay, we'll talk when we get back on.

35:45I told you to put it out. You want to know why? You want to know why? Yeah, I want to know why. Because at the end of the day, like I told you, like, bro, you fuck with who you fuck with, but don't try to disrespect me like that. I really want to find you on the dead homies. You should have. I want to find you. He made a sign of her name, man, and all that type of shit. I don't give a fuck. I went to jail. Bought this whole shit. I ain't going to jail about this nigga, man. In real life. In real life. He got a career. He got shit going on. He's trying to be a rapper and all that other shit. Y 'all better support my boy Poke on the gang because he hot on Hova.

36:17Facts. Okay. And I got to shout out my boy G Perico, too, on the gang. Yeah, he been tapping in. On Hova. He been looking at my shit. See, the whole thing about it is, listen, checking ain't cheating. Just listen to what I'm saying. Checking ain't cheating. Right? Don't listen to what a motherfucker telling you out they mouth. Just go back and check. You know what I'm saying? Like, the whole little shit you got going on King Peele. Mm. I got one thing to say. When you was like, on one of your interviews, like, oh yeah, they scared of the Hoovers, right? Everybody scared of the Hoovers. What you mean by that?

36:48Who? For her. Gang. Who without? Wait, who did I say was scared of the Hoovers? You said it on the podcast. You said, yeah, they most uh-hated, we'll do it. Everybody scared of the Hoovers. Like, what you mean by that? I mean, I was probably just hyping it up because that's what everybody says. So that's what you feed off of, right? So when you run to us, how you feel? I mean, you guys are cool. I feel like we have a good relationship. Hell no, that's not a good relationship, though. No? Hell no. Me and you have talked a lot. I feel like you're kind of misrepresenting this. I don't hope you want.

37:19I got every conversation we talk. Tell his ass a hoover. Don't let him fool you like that. No, I don't play like that. Nothing she do, bro. I don't play like that. Don't let him get at you like that. I know that's how y 'all play up here. We got a lot of text messages together. I hope we do. But I know where the ass is. That don't mean we're told. Yeah, no. It's closer to cool than not cool, right? we trying to get it understanding that's what I think we're doing today yeah yeah we trying to get it I would like it if you would take me at face value when I say that I don't have any grudge against the Hoover I ain't that type of dude though I ain't that I don't know you gotta show me just like I'm gonna show you just with checking ain't cheating me if I'm telling you I'm Hoover Gumby right go back to the oldest nigga that you find from Hoover and ask him about my history go through the penitentiaries ask have you heard any smut on my name ever, nigga, not ever.

38:09I'm Hoover. I am status quo for this Hoover shit. I'm Hoover, nigga. I ain't never turned nothing down. For sure. Dang shit. That's a Hoover deal, buddy. That's nigga Adam. I'm just like, okay, in my head, if I had ever said something, I'm good. Hit this, nigga. Oh, gang, you said true? Did you see that? I bet it's a little. Actually, after G, you wouldn't smoke. He doesn't smoke. I smoke these little tiny things. We smoke. Give me one of those. I smoke. I smoke. This is a person. I don't want to get involved with that. That's too much. Yeah. He got a little Sherman. See, look. This is the craziest thing about it.

38:47He's got Sherman in the two also. You do? It's a little crack in there. You want to have a really fun podcast? We got crack all types of shit in there. Oh, God. But see, this is the best thing about it. See, look. I'll smoke out the same time as you. That counts, right? Not really. My eyes are going to get a split in this shit. Oh, wait, I get it. He think we're going to lace glue. On gang, he think we're going to... We don't really hate you that much because we know you're the police. We don't want to go to jail. On Hoover, he think we're going to lace glue. On gang. On first. No. What's that shit about?

39:11You think it's unreasonable to not want to smoke a blunt that is, like, longer than my forearm? Right. I mean, this is... I just don't think I'm that level of weed smoker, which I hate to admit. But dog, dog. Look, dog. On Hoover, on Hoover, dog. Look, dog. Like that. Yeah, on Hoover, this is a very important plug right here. Sure. I'm saying we make the emails, dabs. We got a dab bar on gang. See, like, the craziest part about it, when you was at that whole little porno party, being a whole little freak. I didn't do anything sexual. I didn't say you did anything sexual. What's the freak part?

39:45You just looking. I'm watching you look. I'm stalking you the whole time. I'm looking. That whole suitcase, the white boy with the whole suitcase of drugs. Remember that? You were in the room for that. I didn't buy anything off the guy. I didn't say you bought anything. Some other people I was with. I know, and I could have laced all y 'all and killed y 'all. Is that in your bag of tricks? What the fuck? No, that's not in my bag of tricks. You're poisoning up? No, no, I wouldn't. I mean, why not if you go smoke one? I wouldn't. I wouldn't, no. It's probably less likely to get covered. No, no, no, that's not, that's not.

40:18That's not cool? See, listen, this is what I'm trying to explain to you. This is why I keep going back. This is why I keep going back to the whole little carrot situation because it's something else leading to that. Just because if that didn't, or we know it didn't happen, the way they're trying to make it seem happen, and the dude that he's supposed to go down with is partially impaired. Did he tell you that? I've heard this rumor. Okay, so stop, so stop. No, not rumor. So whatever, all the other shit, whether it happened or didn't happen, this is the whole point of the whole situation. Just because of the climate, you have two different situations where you got niggas that's trying to stay down, caught up in situations, right?

40:58Because that situation happened. A blood dude do the same thing, stick a pickle in a dude from East Coast ass. I heard about this, yeah. Okay. So I'm saying... A retaliatory pickling. Okay. That's not... It just sounds crazy. We're not going to play with that right there. Because see, me personally, I don't think rape with a foreign object... I don't either. Obviously, you think it's a joke. No. I mean, the fact that people are doing it is pretty... But you're not speaking out against it. In the county, bro, they do all the time. I've never been locked up. It's not really my place. We don't do it.

41:29We don't do it. We're whooping the ass. I'm supposed to start a campaign against this? I've already been there. Been where? To the county. You don't want to go there. And I feel like it's kind of out of my realm. You're not an affiliate, bro. It's fight nights in there, bro. Yeah, like what am I doing? This is the whole point. Well, I ain't going to lie to you. So you'll be a wood. Yeah. But what I'm trying to explain to you is that I'm trying to get in where I finish. No, that's not good enough. you gotta take a stand you gotta be willing to live well you gotta stand for something well that's what I'm saying if I gotta be a white boy I guess I'll be a white boy you gonna have to be a white boy oh here we are we not talking about whether you're a white boy or not see everybody got it fucked up see everybody think it's the hoovers against the neighborhoods and everybody else in the city and that's not it it's war the war against the real and the fake I'd rather have four or five solid neighborhoods with me than a million boo boo ass hoovers on the damn Because you'll never know Until you run into them Or it's a sticky situation Prison teach you a lot I hope it do So my whole thing is like Everybody don't really understand My situation But I'll get to that in a minute You got me on a timer

42:43I'm still getting grilled I feel like the interview hasn't even started yet The interview is on you right now Nah, Young Hova. We can switch places in a minute. We could just also have the conversation like this. I'm perfectly comfortable. Okay, good job. Because I don't feel like... We're interviewing you. I know. That's what I'm just saying. I haven't even got to ask you about your life. How you feel about it? It was cool. All right. I like talking to you guys. You all right? You comfortable? You got your fire? Yeah. Because I got my... I believe you. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

43:13I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You stupid. I don't know what you thought this is, nigga. Ain't coming up here playing with y 'all. Who's stupid for real? I'm telling you the truth. Oh, shit. Real life. Yeah, I love you. Real life. Dead hovers, though. Okay. On the dead hovers. There you go. That's what hovers. Don got me on 10. Okay. I'm talking about 20. It's going to be a long night. All right, so let me ask you another question. It's my mom's birthday. I got to go take her out to eat. All right, another question. You really letting people fuck your wife? I mean, we really got to talk about this more.

43:47No, we actually. I'm paying you for this. I want to know. I want to know. She's done a couple scenes with other male performers, yeah. But see, that's her job, though. And you was there? No. Well, I've done scenes with me, her, and another guy. But how do you feel about her doing it with other people? Pause. No gay shit. Okay, I was about to say. No diddy? No guy. Well, this is mostly diddy. Y 'all gonna get off of diddy. Y 'all hoover though. A hoover though. Freak diddy. Y 'all mad at that man. Y 'all have been mad at you. But I feel like that's. He had other men's cum rubbed on his nipples.

44:21That's what I'm saying. I feel like you can't, like, be his biggest fan. Don't do that. No, don't do that. No, now he got to catch on to what he's saying, gang. I'm just saying, like, that's like, I feel like you celebrating him that much is a little bit over the top. Everybody was welcome to do what he did. I mean, this is the same guy who was throwing the bitch on the ground in the hotel lobby. It's the same bitch who came. Some of them bitches did. What the fuck do you mean? Same bitch that came back. I got the bitch from hell. What the fuck are you talking about? What the fuck? And that bitch still didn't leave after he did all that.

44:53Hey, how you marry somebody that get fucked? We were actually married before we made the decision to start branching out. Oh, so you got an open relationship. Not 100%, but in terms of content, yeah, a little bit. You like that type of shit? You get a thrill? It's alright. White boy shit, you a freak. She had a new scene come on. I didn't even watch it. I should check it out Shout out Slim Poke Shout out Slim Poke He told me We're too tight That's my brother You got a blood brother Slim Poke Shout out Slim Poke Shout out Hoover Gumby Let Gumby hit his wife That's my boy though I don't know where it's at I don't know where it's at His time right now we meet him later on Back to you His wife Yes or no White girls Do you want to fuck her or not Do you want to fuck her or not I ain't even seen her before I don't even know her I don't know I don't fuck everything I see I don't know You'd probably want to lay it down She look pretty good She alright She's white white ass.

46:16She's Armenian for the record. Oh, yeah, she's Armenian? I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. Okay, okay. But I ain't going to look, look, look. Let me stop. Oh, no, oh, no. You got any daddies in your section for me? On Hoover, I do. You want some Hoover's Galiti's? On Hoover, come through. I'm hoping mine is. We own that. Don't need any trouble. Did they give you some neighborhood pussy? Not so much. We could give you some Hoover's Galiti. On Hoover. You can put it on the hovers in this bitch. I'll hold it up. I guarantee you to go up. For the past three or four months.

46:51You have an orange couch. That don't make you from Hoover, though. Well, I can think of another example of that. I wasn't pointing at you. We both look back. I just pressed him about his hat just a minute ago. Oh, I know. I heard that. Donnie just so happens to have a Mariner's hat on. I didn't. I didn't. We're supposed to disinfect this motherfucker. You get it? I did. Go get it so we can finish the rest of the interview and it go good. See, we got to disinfect this motherfucker because you got all type of bad spirits and bad people in here. You got enemy juice in here, dude. Oh, dang, you do.

47:24I didn't want to say it that way. You know what I mean? Hey, hey, hey, hey. I don't know. Like, okay, wait, wait. Fuck that. Like, I need to change positions. You want to flip? No, you stay here. Okay. I'm going to scoot over a little bit. Scoot over that way. because the last motherfucker was over here is when the nigga 4X was over here yelling in his motherfucking face and I definitely ain't him. That was crazy. This is not gonna look good on camera. That's it was off the bone. I'm sorry. Off the bone. Oh, yeah. You some bullshit. Y 'all dirty. That's it was off the bone. Hey, he gonna throw me a tripping.

47:56He gonna throw me a tripping on you talking about you laughing at the hoover nigga jokes and all that. You think he's gonna be mad that I'm doing this interview? Hell yeah. I told him from day one. Listen, I'm a hot lover. Ain't gonna lie. I'm fucking with whoever. Bro, this is content, bro. and they know that already. As long as he come and get his content in and say what he got to say, he don't give a fuck about what this man do. I was just doing a podcast where they talked all kinds of shit about WAC and I just sat there, defended him a little bit. As long as 4X or whoever it is come to do what they got to do to make them irrelevant, they going to do it.

48:27Make them irrelevant. Right. So the content from him because he's already got his platform, it don't matter. I don't like how you're using your platform because I feel like you're using it against the hoops. Put the hoops on here. Let us on the map. I'll give you guys some free passes for who you think I should have on. We don't need no free passes. We don't need nothing free, dead homies. Not like that. I mean, if you have rappers that are up and coming out the hoover, let's do it. Let's glow them up. We're not talking about that. We're not only talking about that. You're trying to give us the opportunity that you want us to have.

48:59I'm trying to show you what's that. What one do you want? Hello, hello. Hello. What opportunity do you want? Hello, hello. Sure. Hello. Hello. Hello. What's in that? Go ahead. First and foremost, what you got up in there? Damn, homies, I'm looking. That would be clever, though. That would be. You won't get fast to open it, you're moving. You're clever, you're be shy. We got some sort of dab apparatus here. Let me have that shit. It's Everything 420. You can have it. But you see, this is the bullshit when y 'all go to iDab. Y 'all go to iDab. No, I smoke wax, though. I smoke wax, though. Everything420.com.

49:36He's like a headache. Put that over here. That's now Hoover property. You can leave with it. Don't worry. Well, actually, we're probably supposed to keep the box. No, no, no. I need the box with it. Okay. We'll figure something out. Anyway, what do I have to do to show you that I have no anti-Hoover bias? I don't think you think I have one. I do. See, I do. I do. This is my nephew. All right. I got a bunch of other nephews. They whooped four extra out. My nephew TK whooped him. Whooped four leaf out too on Hoover though. What you mean? Like everybody here whooped him, he's talking about. Off the back, off the back.

50:08We don't do nothing off the back. We need ours off the tippy top. We need ours off the tippy top. When the bird come in, bitch, give me mine off the top. It's off the bone. What does this mean exactly? That means exactly. Off the top versus off the back. They off the back. That means they back there. Off the top. Like, when you open this, bitch. Like, before I got here. Who was first? Give me mine first. Fuck off the back. Like, what you want your shit second for? Waiting on your money. No, we off the top. You know what I mean? Oh, it's like a pimp thing. No, I ain't no pimp. I'm just trying to catch up here.

50:43You're talking like we ain't stupid, bro. We ain't dumb. I'm just trying to figure out. You high? I'm going to help you out. Get high. I want you to get high. My whole thing is that I'm just trying to show you that, listen, if you are completely biased in this whole, like my whole thing is that, look, you're giving opportunities to people to promote gang violence in our community. The same thing you just did with the King Pills situation. That was really not in my hands. He tried to fight me. Why was he trying to fight you? I guess because... Because you bullshit! What? Y 'all be doing this whole content shit?

51:24It's kind of crazy because you don't really understand that the things that we say on these podcasts and out in public, the people who are not on podcasts, who are just watching on their phones, they perceive it a different way. Some of them might perceive it violently. Right. That's why I try not to say anything offensive about anybody's hoods or anything. So what I'm saying is that if you're giving opportunities to other people, right, to spill their philosophy, their propaganda, their bullshit, just have truths, you got to be able to flip the script and say, okay, well, let me hear what these guys are saying.

52:00Got to say. You know, I just thought of the best argument I could possibly use. You really don't have an argument right now. If I was from neighborhood, why would I do a podcast with Wack every week? He don't beef with them. What the fuck is he talking about? Wack is from neighborhood. If Big U was going to list off his biggest ops in the whole world, Wack 100 would be near the top of that list. That's just all recent shit. That's all recent shit. No, no, no. Fuck all that. We got video when Wack 100 is calling the homies from BPS and tell him don't fuck with the hoovers, fuck with the neighborhoods.

52:37That was why I said that? Yeah, we got that. It's on the internet. The nigga Bone can vouch for it. I have no idea. Because they on the internet together. So from that point on, right? From that point on? We could just leave it. That whole podcast situation, right? You've been an op to us, bro. Since which situation though? I just told you how far it goes back. Right. When you start fucking with Wack. Wack is really a neighborhood. He got more love and respect in a neighborhood than probably a lot of places that he go. There's very few neighborhood members that he speaks to. That's true. But the ones he speaks to, it's probably the ones.

53:23I don't know. Me either. But that's besides the point. Him and Brick Bay were both on the podcast for two years and they never ran into each other because we had to keep them apart because they didn't want to see each other good job good job like you giving people opportunities to fuck their life off is what you're doing not really yes really when i hire somebody like break baby do you think in any way i'm saying like hey you need to incriminate yourself on the podcast you need to tell all the craziest stories about the craziest illegal shit you've done no in fact i actually don't care if you talk about your personal life or who you beef with or whatever at all if you want to just talk about other people and what's going on with music and other like that is totally fine i'm not like you know even somebody like four extras who for however much certain hoods might hate him he never came on here even when munchie b was talking crazy about him he did not come on here and talk crazy about munchie b he never used this as a platform to go in on his ops besides maybe in a general sense saying that he just doesn't fuck with him but He was never using it to pinpoint certain people and shit on them.

54:23And I agree. Which I appreciate. And same thing with Crip Mac. No. No, Crip Mac. Crip Mac got temporarily suspended from the podcast for talking shit about the Hoovers on a live episode. Okay. Okay. But he still did it, right? So listen. Yeah. I'm saying. And if it wasn't live, we would have edited it out. It's a different situation because, see, you're giving the whole internet their side of the story. and you've been giving it away for a long time. They didn't have your platform tied up with all their bullshit for a long time. Don't you want something fresh and new? Sure. I'm always looking for something fresh and new.

55:00Okay. Okay. So let me ask you this. We got to get to the bottom of this situation about the whole little situation of the climate that you bring. You empower people to do bullshit, right? The whole 4X and the carrot situation. like I'm saying like that's not true I wouldn't even put that on him right but if there's something like that that's in the news people are making videos about it it's fully out there there's Instagram posts about it people are having that conversation and then I do an interview with them it's only right that I ask him right I would say let's just leave it because I feel like some other people are going to come at some point sorry so yeah I mean I feel like that's the kind of thing that I just need to ask about in order to do a decent interview, even if he 100 % denied it.

55:49It's like we still can have a conversation about it, right? I agree. You still can, right? But at the end of the day, right, the climate that that has caused, right, the rumors, the rumors, right? But those rumors existed before I did the interview. No, not with this individual. Yeah, but that's what I was asking him about was what people were already making videos about. I agree, right? I might be the biggest platform that touched the subject. So what I'm trying to explain to you is that, so it looks like, in our opinion, that you're promoting accessory to rape. No. The story is that he knocked somebody out.

56:32Somebody from over that was partially impaired. I got a quote for you, little bro. wherever you at soul or perks whatever you are I got a quote for you the mighty lion toys with the mouse that crosses his path because to do anything else will fuck up his reputation right see everybody is all excited about this dude hand getting blew off all the busters right I'm not I'm not. I'm sad because I understand. Listen, I know what's going on. I'm right here. Get it? I'm not taking away nothing from nobody. Just gang shit. But you don't take an easy opportunity to dump on somebody when they have a case of bad luck?

57:30I don't. I respect that. But at the end of the day, he done did a lot of damage. and you helped him do a lot of damage to our community because of the whole situation that he has going on with himself, right? And what I mean by that is that you got him up here and he's telling you about all the non-affiliates that he whooped. He only got clout because of what? Because he said he whooped Jack Fobb, right? That's all. Don't give a fuck about no 4X. what makes him amazing what brought me being a gamer me being from Hoover me having something to say about all these other dudes that didn't get me on no jumper you had to do your research to see who I was right well you got videos about you yeah but I'm saying like why does 4X need to do anything besides just be a compelling personality in order to be on a podcast or do interviews that's exactly what he's doing he's been a compelling personality right but at the same time you're not telling all the same you're not telling the whole story bro you're telling about all the times you want but i can't make anybody tell the truth no but what it is is that being that you're a journalist you're supposed to go i keep telling you checking ain't cheating i don't think i am i think you are i think you are like if someone tells like what am i supposed to do am i supposed to like somehow like go into the jail records or interview a bunch of people independently to find out if these fight stories are true like it's not possible No, that's not exactly what I'm talking about because some of them are true.

59:03He's only telling the ones that are true. You're not telling the ones that everybody in your weight class, everybody in your status, TK from 9-2s, my nephew, Groove Mac, the homie from 5-1, everybody that's in your weight class from our side, you took a loss to already, bro. And it's okay. I know. I'm telling you, I know. Right, but I don't. I'm telling you, I know. I can't fact check them in real time. You actually can. You do everything else. This motherfucker's a whole gang haven. You got all these niggas up here talking this, that, and the other. I'm saying, but at the same time, it's not even about folk extra.

59:40It's about the climate. Then you got the whole situation with the dude that's from what's this shit? Black what's it called? I'm sorry. I don't even really listen to young niggas rap no more, but out of the jungles. The little homies from the jungle. The fucking P4K in them, yeah. One of them dudes. The Baby Stone Gorillas. One of them dudes was supposed to go to jail, right? And I believe Aunt Hefe was speaking about it. I'm sorry if I'm mixing the story up, but this is from what I remember. The little dude went in there and got down with somebody, right? And he felt the niggas was going to stab him.

1:00:18So he got up out the tank. Okay. Right? I'm just trying to show you, you are enabling these people to create stories. Because see, now the atmosphere in the county jail is that everybody's on edge. Niggas don't know if I get down with this nigga if he finna stab me, fuck me, or what. But don't you think that if I stopped doing podcasts that the climate would be exactly the same? Because people are still gonna wanna have these conversations with people like Forrestra. If anything, I feel like I'm probably more restrained than a lot of other people who might be doing this. I agree. Because see, they all just up and coming.

1:00:57You're big time. There's no jumper on Hoverdell. So what I'm saying to you is that you should have some type of ethical code to say, wait a minute, guys. Because see what they say and do out here, these little kids in the streets, it's acting upon. And you are facilitating the bullshit. but my whole community feel like you are oppressing us because you're giving these dudes airtime and you don't even know what's going on over here i think a more realistic narrative is that i'm giving people opportunities in media no no to make a living doing something legal let me explain something to you see that's and they can really talk about whatever they want exactly but it's just the thing though that's what i'm saying that's what that's what comes in the bias part coming.

1:01:49If you're not biased, they're not supposed to say certain shit. They're not supposed to be able to say certain shit or talk about certain shit. Because you're not biased. You're not for the gays or against the gays. You're not biased. So therefore, you're not going to let the gays talk about the straights and the straights talk about the gays. You're not going to do that. Because you're biased. You're not doing that. You're not doing that. Whoever wants to talk, talk. I mean, I'm not like, if anything, I would say I'm pretty loosey-goosey with who I led on the podcast. What that means? I let a lot of people on.

1:02:18I have more of an open door policy than most people who do podcasts that are this size. You know, like if somebody reached out and said, hey, someone just told a story about me on the podcast. I really want to get my side out there. I mean, there's a pretty decent chance that we're going to be like, all right, let's do it.

1:02:37I mean, we've definitely done so in the past. Well, you probably should be more selective. And that's another thing I was getting to. I'm saying this whole King Pills shit. Right. I'm saying we were texting each other back and forth from that. I'm saying and that whole situation made a few people upset. Which part? From the beginning to the end. It's all been messy, bro. I've been messy. Me bringing up the fact that he censored out the gang. This is from a song in front of somebody who is from one of the gangs that would be offended by one of those terms. See, y 'all play a lot of gangs and y 'all put a lot of people in the spot, right?

1:03:22Let me explain something to what you did to that man, right? Mm-hmm.

1:03:30You just made him... sacrifice the life that he's living right now for your views? King Bill. Hell no. And Hefe. And Hefe. But what is he sacrificing in his life?

1:03:56He doesn't seem too bothered. Well, I understand. See, he's very professional. Right. And he keep it clean. I know him. I know of him. I'm saying through a few other homies over here I know, right? So he keeps it professional. But see, that's to say, he was a professional. This dude just disrespected his neighborhood and he said, no, I didn't mean you. For me, personally, that ain't going to be good enough. Right. But, I mean, I was really asking him about removing it from the song, which, if anything, is kind of an olive branch, right? Not even, not at all, not at all, because you brought it up.

1:04:38You brought it up. Ann had already, like, talked about it on his channel and made a video saying that they had a conversation, so I figured that they were on good terms. You figured without checking? I keep telling you checking ain't cheating. It's only cheating if you ain't checking. It was in the middle of a four-hour live stream. Four-hour live stream? About what? I mean, we do it over and over and over every week. I understand, but what do you talk about on this live stream? What's going on in the culture? what's going on in our lives what's going on in gang culture rap music gang shit so why are you so concentrating on gangs like what's that about it really is it really influenced a lot of areas in our life and our culture it has but at the end of the day right you gotta pick a side or be neutral neutral then make it neutral for the past eight years you didn't have these dudes up here doing all type of dumb shit.

1:05:37And no mama, who idea was it was to bring this dude Tony Woolwich up here? Honestly, I wasn't involved with that. Yeah, you sound like you was involved in it. I was. Because I don't believe. I'm just saying like ain't no. First off, let me. That's first off. I think he's friends with Flocko though. Okay. Who the fuck is that? Flocko. The fat dude? The fat dude. he's on here here no oh yeah who's been on this kid 16 shot him from chicago it's like a he spit on him he's like a youtuber and flock flocko well no no flaco got spit on and then spit back see that kind of a dry see like i got like i was telling you before like we we got we got like it's like my whole thing is that like i don't this is why i don't even play with people.

1:06:26I don't know who Flacco is. I'm hoping he ain't got nothing against me. But if he do, we can deal with that. Well, he said he was going to do a Young Hawk interview. That's fine. That's fine. He does do interviews here, but I feel like he was I don't know if he was planning on doing that on his channel. Why would you even bring this dude's name up? Like, this is my whole thing. This is my whole thing with you platform podcast type dudes, right? See, I'm really from this gang, right? I'm really from this gang. I don't know nothing but this gang, right? So this is what we're going to do from this day forward.

1:07:06Because I said you guys are the media. You guys are the press. You got to set press, the hood press, however y 'all want to do it. Listen, so if the news media slander is your name, right? You go about it civically. you sue him. Get some money out of him.

1:07:31Well... If you stand in my name, whenever I catch y 'all... Even the news? No, we're talking about these podcasters. Oh, okay. See what I'm saying? Because we mentioned this dude who's a whole PC. And it's all your fault. It's all... Well, actually, it's full extra fault. I mean, I could bleep his name out if you want. Yeah, we can. but no I'm saying it's actually four extra faults in actuality why all this shit went on why you say that I told you I'm a real nigga always have been ain't been nobody but me right

1:08:13this dude he who name should not be spoken

1:08:22he goes and lists some bloods from a whole another city

1:08:30to go against 4 Extra.

1:08:35Okay. Now, this individual... Because he liked King Pill and... Well, he's from Pomona. He's not really from Hovva. He's from the IE area. He who named We Shall Not Speak. But he was kind of the tour guide on the thing where they was actually what I'm speaking on this dude is saying he's from nine foe So why you didn't take him to nine foes? He bamboozled somebody down there and they thought that it was something to help Our community get some shine and didn't understand they motive behind it see we from Hov we beef with the 40s anyway we don't need nobody help especially no niggas from Pomona and then on top of that this weird ass nigga bring some PDLs to Hovahood

1:09:36I don't know about y 'all but like that's very disrespectful to us and he only did that is because he has a situation of his own. So, the situation is that he got high off crystal from my understanding, sold his TVs to somebody from 60s. Alright? Then when the homies found out about it and he had an issue coming, he PC'd up. Meaning he went to protective custody and told the police, police, police, police. the hovers is finna kill me and this nigga from 60's got my TV so

1:10:23first thing you learn in prison is that homosexuals snitches and PCs don't get no action as a real nigga so we not gonna let this buster get it for extra who a real nigga cause we got real niggas for him I see

1:10:47So One phone call or text from you I sent that nigga from having a Rap concert Excuse me a rap contract A song with King Peele And a video To being a podcaster Cause you ain't nobody You shut that down Immediately Fuck you mean I've been in the set since I came home for like the last 16 years I've probably seen this guy probably once or twice in 16 years spoke to him probably 5 times he don't know nothing about me if a nigga think I ain't who I say I am just go check just to put this out there though and I already told you I wasn't going to interview him right just because I'm not trying to cause any kind of tension.

1:11:44It's not even about you right now because there's a couple of other people who spoke on this situation. But I'm just saying he's going to hit me up and he's going to say yo, I had my name slandered on your platform. I want to come on and have my slander. This is how we're going to do the slander. Right? He accused me of getting raped. He accused me of being a booty bandit. he accused me of all these weird type behaviors that everybody didn't know me he made you sound like the worst person ever but let me explain to you why a person who i just snatched all your emotion would he would he went on about me for 30 minutes why are you so mad at me because i called and let him know that this nigga right here is a bum first off how you it's been 16 years right You ain't been to no funerals.

1:12:35Where you been at? His video said he's seen us. Bro, you know where we at.

1:12:43This is all for the cameras, bro. So we gonna keep his name out of the whole shit. Okay. Now all of a sudden, he called Rick Rock asking how to be a podcaster. Because you failed at being a Hoover. You failed at being a rapper. Bitch. Hoover Street. Shit.

1:13:05yeah I mean I don't know him I don't know him either I don't know the nigga either I literally don't know him right and the craziest thing about it is that I'm just peeping because see anytime I speak and I'm on any type of podcast I don't get nothing but good feedback from every real nigga see because my life I keep telling you checking ain't cheating I've really been here really been doing my shit from Hoover Street so I'm not concerned about what a a PC snitch is saying you got 24 hours to bring that one 14 D lock up order or you are officially canceled. Hov gang. Oh shit. Um, yeah, well, okay.

1:13:50I guess we could just get into this. One of the, this is that he tried to use against you was saying that you are just living off the reputation from having killed, a member of your own hood in this story that has been recounted in many, many YouTube videos in which basically you ran into a situation with another prisoner and ended up taking his life. Hmm. That's crazy. See, because, see, let me tell you. See, I got put on my hood during middle school. Poop from lying dudes. HIP, I guess. but he was somebody that didn't like my brother. So he sick Bambino and Baby Daddy on me in a little chill front yard.

1:14:47And that was my official put on. In the eighth grade at Breadheart, I got kicked out for a gang-related shooting. Checking ain't never cheating. I went to Louisiana. After that, my mom sent me out of town. I went to Tallulah, Louisiana and turned they shit up. I taught them how to gangbang. The West Side Bloods that's in Las Vegas, they from the West Side of Tallulah, 1000 Askew Street. Michael Foreman and all them. Yeah, I taught them how to gangbang. In the 80s. Got back in 90. John Muir, all my ops. Manuel, all my ops. All my homies. this is the best part about me I say checking ain't cheating all you gotta do is go back and ask I ain't got nothing but A1 since day 1 from my homies and my enemies you talking about somebody who could even

1:15:48like bro how do you get marked out in the county jail for drug debts but everywhere you go bro you got the excuse ain't no excuse behind my name bitch play with it if you want to I'm already going to hell bitch I'm hoover I'm really like that about what I say I'm willing to die right here and now you got your fire I got mine what's happening hoover though real life see this is what I'm saying about your platforms like Milk Sevenfold he not from our gang not from our gang Milk tell him why you ain't coming to the set nigga tell him tell him why oh I don't want to be over here. Why? Not by choice, you fuck.

1:16:34Not by choice. I spared you because homie Nunn called me and said, groovy, groovy. What did he do that you were mad about in the first place? Originally, some older homies that was getting out of prison, they wanted to get in touch with him and he was shunning us. He's not from our community and I don't know why. But he grew up in the community, right? What the fuck does that mean? He grew up. He grew up and identified as a Hoover throughout his whole childhood, teenage years, right? There's stages to this shit. You can drop the ball at any minute. I'm 50. I could be considered a buster tomorrow if I drop the ball.

1:17:14If I don't bust down when I'm supposed to bust down, I'm considered, oh, that shit don't mean nothing. So as a kid, the fuck that shit mean? Nothing. It's niggas out here dying every day. Where you at? You ain't putting no money in the basket for niggas to get buried. Damn sure ain't putting in the work. so why are you still talking about you from our community again okay but people are going to hear this and they're going to say that you're basically saying anybody who goes on to become successful in which is he probably makes like what maybe like five grand a month off youtube maybe maybe he makes you can make more than not selling drugs i'm just saying it's not like he's filthy rich it's a difference between being famous if you if you're famous right you really have an obligation because see you're being famous that means influencing people I mean Milk is like YouTube famous but like within this in our community he don't got to be no gangbanger no more like I just told you when I told you I agreed to come on your show I said man why don't y 'all come put a podcast studio up over here in Manchester Park so my little homies and they little sisters and brothers can learn how to do this shit remember that I told you that on the phone so why he ain't done it because he can't come back Why can't you come back?

1:18:28Bet you want to know, huh? Well, there's some pretty good content, sure. Yeah.

1:18:36Next question. Milk. Milk. Bring your ass outside, bitch. Fuck you, speak my name. Nigga, speak my name. Nigga, I'm like the boogeyman on Hovah, my pop-up. Bitch. On Hovah. Texas, New York, wherever the fuck you want to be at. Anywhere. I know where you stay at downtown. I know your people. Bro, stop playing with me, bro Stop playing with me, bro I ain't doing nothing wrong to you See, cause me, I ain't got no question mark behind my name I can't no nigga say he ever fucked me No, I fucked nobody else Can't nobody ever say I snitched, ran out, none of that On Hoover, since I joined this gang, bitch My name, I'm status quo For survival, bitch Did you tell Milk to take the 7-4 out of his name on YouTube?

1:19:15Please do, take that shit out I think he did Please, thank you I heard that before, yeah, thank you Yeah, set in two-point, spoiled milk-ass nigga. The fuck? Come through. So are you okay with Back on Fig having, you know, sort of Hoover branding and orange couches and the name is like a Figueroa reference and everything? How do you feel about that? I mean, they represent our side. You know what I'm saying? Smack, I know Smack personally. I'm saying I fuck with Smack. I possibly got on his shit before I got on your shit, but I have to come get in your ass because you on bullshit. Don't make this about me.

1:19:53That's why I'm on this side and you on that side, nigga. You on bullshit. I can play both sides. Well, you probably could, but right now we're playing in my side. Okay. You got it, Hovam? No, if the answer is yes, I like the way that they're representing it, then by all means, just say that because the fuck do I care? I don't know. What the fuck do you care? I'm just curious. I noticed in that one vlog that you guys did that someone was like, Like, this is the real back on fig. And some people kind of took that as a little bit of a diss, even though you didn't say it. Well, I guess what they meant by that is that, like, I guess, see, the streets don't really understand this YouTube shit.

1:20:33I'm just not really realizing what's going on with that, right? And they don't really understand the content that gets your ass killed. These people out here really... I used to work with them. Who was that? Back on fair? T-Rell and Smack. That's what I just said. This whole situation, because you hate Hoover, is because of T-Rell. I just said that. That's the fuck I just said from the beginning. I mean, I interviewed Big Deal, and he actually told me that he doesn't even think that T-Rell is a valid Hoover member, since he didn't get put on, and he wasn't really doing any of that kind of shit.

1:21:03Well, see, that don't wait. Let me say something to you. That don't make you not a valid member of our society, like our community. Just because you're not part of the military branch, don't mean you ain't from our community. Don't mean we won't come whack on your ass behind that motherfucker on Hoover. Oh, yeah? You're standing on business for T-Rail? I won't say I'm standing on for T-Rail, but I'll say I'm standing on it for people who are not affiliate, that's not in my game, and that live in my community, the store owners. Go play up in there with them. But he's really, like, using the branding for his podcast.

1:21:35I understand that. I get what he's doing. I'm saying I get what he's doing. But we ain't on him. We on you. Okay. I keep thinking that we're off me. No, no, no, no. You're still on me. You're still on that side of the table right there. So back on Fig is going to be approved. I didn't say what was going to be approved. I ain't been there yet. Just like I'm in their ass. I mean, your ass. I got something in their ass about, too. You on a tour. Checking ain't never cheating. Checking ain't never cheating. It's only cheating if you ain't checking. You get that? Like, I just think that being that you guys have a platform, I think you should use it in a more positive light.

1:22:14see because most of y 'all people not going to hell i am i'm going to hell for the shit i did let's get back to that why are you going to hell just because you killed someone i mean you got off on self-defense right don't you feel like you were justified

1:22:30i mean if somebody was threatening me like that that's what you say that's i feel like that's like the number one thing that i would feel like i was justified in doing that for and now i'm not telling you how you should feel i'm just saying i'm surprised that you feel like you committed the super grave sin. Who the fuck talking about that bullshit? Oh, okay. So that's nothing. I'm gonna say it's nothing. Right. But it's not, that's not the thing that keeps you up at night?

1:23:05Um...

1:23:11Dang shit. right on time to fall. Is it good? Yeah, I'm good. Ha. Yeah. That question sent your mind off adrift for a moment?

1:23:31Not so much as adrift. Not that question, but see, I'm not sure what y 'all want me to say, what you want to hear. so I'm kind of like the question. I mean I guess I'm just curious about how you feel about the situation in prison in general. Anything else you've ever done in your life obviously I don't know. I'm not going to sit and tell you what I did. Yeah feel free not to. I agree because everybody got you labeled as the police. Where your badge at? Whackposter just sold his where yours at. I don't have one. Over though. For sure but okay why are you on the health? I'm sorry? Why are you going to hell?

1:24:12And why are you so sure of it? Well, because I believe in repenting for your sins, and I ain't repenting for mine. I'm really from hope. But why can't you repent? Why would I? If you really think you did something wrong, you could always apologize, right? Apologize to who did it, people? Well, repenting is like apologizing to God, right? Well, I guess that's all. Me and my God are small, right? and I accept whatever it is it's supposed to be. Like, I just told you I had a gang-related shooting at Bret Hart. Like, I don't know who these people that you've been up here playing with, but like, it is what it is.

1:24:51Like, I'm not playing like I'm from Hov. I'm really from Hov Street. But a Christian God would like be a... I'm not a Christian. You're not? What are you? I'm spiritual. Oh, okay. I don't believe in religion. But then how do you be sure you're going to hell? Because that's what y 'all say. I don't. I don't believe in any of this shit. I know you were atheist. I don't even know why we even talking about that part. Because you're the one who says that you think you're going to hell. I don't think I'm going to hell. It's pretty wild to believe in hell if you're not a Christian. I'm pretty sure because of the way I believe.

1:25:18See, the thing about it is this way here. If you believe that there's a right and a wrong, then you believe that somebody is going to judge you. And I don't believe that all my decisions throughout my past have been according to his plan. I'm looking at more bad deeds than I am good deeds. so I'm just adding up the possibilities get it well what about the circumstances that you come from I don't think that has anything to do with it if you were born in an upper class neighborhood to rich parents you probably wouldn't have done these things right so it's not really like you you were born into this life no fuck all that I had choices I had a choice to be a buster but you didn't make the choice to have those choices the fact that that was right outside your door you didn't choose to grow up in that environment.

1:26:09I jumped headlong into it. What the fuck do you mean? That's me personally. I chose to be who I am. I spent all these years building me up. And if you don't want to know who I am, go to your local gang member. Call the penitentiary area where the people we're peeing at. That's what you call. Call them and ask them about Gumby from Line Tools. Don't listen to no niggas on YouTube mad because I pulled his whole everything. Are you irritated by people making videos, glamorizing that shit? No, what it is is that, see, everybody, one of those people, every one of those people is looking for one or two things and don't even know me.

1:26:49When I see them, I'm really going to be on that. A lot of them, nobody knows who they are. I agree. We don't know Warren Calley. Who are you, Warren Calley? No, don't do that. They did my shit, so I don't know them. Okay, I don't know. I don't think he did this bullshit lately. Oh, yeah? No, there's some whole bullshit. uh, what's the weirdos? Uh, what's the little Paisa nigga from, what's the Paisa doing? Two gansons. Two gansons for TV. Oh, this mother, he, that bitch ass. Why am I out here promoting him and he lying about me? All the, he lying, he's the motherfucker that put up this PC. First off, let me explain something to you.

1:27:23A real motherfucker in the streets, right? Mm-hmm. Even from, no matter if you neighborhood, blood, whatever, a real motherfucker in the streets, right? Right. We don't give no airtime, no action to a motherfucker who then PC'd up. You know what that mean? That's probably what you do. You probably PC'd up. I'm going to try it. Don't do that. I'm going to try my luck. Don't do that. You know what I'm saying? That's not a good thing. No, no, no. And whoever told Tory Lane to PC up, y 'all need your ass whooped. I don't know. Can you show you don't know? I don't know who told him to PC up or if he did.

1:27:56Whack his boy. Shit. What do you mean, if he did it? He's under protective custody or sensitive needs. Yeah, I don't know if he chose that or if that was... What the fuck do you mean? You gotta choose it. There's never a situation where they force you No, fuck no. What it is, if you're a pedophile, if you got baby rape charges, shit like that, that's where you go. That's where they sent this fucker to. Because he got stabbed by a guy who's in there for some sort of child sex charge. Speaking of which, what's up with you, nigga? What? What you mean, what? We heard you got some shit on you, too.

1:28:29I ain't got nothing on me. No? No. Okay. But yeah, Back to that shit though. That nigga Toy Lions in the tabloids. Oh the blacks, they're just going to let the Mexicans do them like that? Or it's going to go up in the pen? No, the fuck it's not. For what? He's on a PC yard. He went to the police and said Mr. Officer, Mr. Officer I can't hold my own nuts. You got to hold them for me. That's why he got his ass whacked on. So because it happened in PC the gangs don't give a shit. That's its own world. Once you PC up, the game is over. Wow, I didn't know that. Once you snitch, the game is over. It's over.

1:29:15You're no longer part of what we part of. You're an op. Right. Get it? Or even just go PC. It's exactly the same thing. This is bad. What do you mean? All the same. Fuck you mean. Uh-huh.

1:29:37um so you weren't the first gumby your brother was gumby first how did he get the name it was given to him by his peers okay was this at a time when gumby was still pretty popular the cartoon i was 10 years old brother okay so i don't know do you in any way have any particular affection for that cartoon character not so much for the character but for myself i do i made this name i'm the only gummies from hove ain't none of these other niggas on the cover of roller stone magazine but i am about this holy shit got your phone yeah i mean i read that article that they wrote about you but i'm going that's crazy yeah i'm over though damn hey you got a lighter How long I've been up in here?

1:30:28You ain't paying me for all night. Hour and a half. We've been in here an hour and a half already? Yeah, give me another half hour. What you mean? All right. All right. We're going to work it out. We still barely talked about you. Okay. I'm saying we had a whole bunch of other shit to talk about. I was hoping you would give me the play-by-play. What play-by-play of what? They said you were in the processing thing. You're coming back in from the yard. And he was bent down. And you jumped over it. Pow. All dramatic. Is it? Because it sounded kind of hard for me to imagine. I'm not going to lie. This is the craziest thing about it is that, like, with he who named We Should Not Speak, right, he went on YouTube.

1:31:08There's a story about me that got 3.7 million views. Whoa. It's called The Untold Story of America's Most Dangerous Prisoner. Like and subscribe. Check it out. Cheat. Hoover, though. That was you. The most dangerous prisoner. No. That wasn't me. It was about other homies. Yeah, I'm gang. It was about the devil. Right. And they did that with AI. So everything this guy is talking about me in this fucking video, he got from AI. It was an AI voice. Yes. He said my name Reggie. That's the worst. And this is what he's getting on the internet spewing. And this is what he, like, this is why I respect a lot of these different podcasters.

1:31:50They didn't even pick that trash up. All you thirsty motherfuckers and I'm on y 'all head. Right. I'm on y 'all head. I don't make AI crime videos. But anyway. What's happening with you, though? Back to you, though. Yeah. So how are we going to mend this bridge between me and my homies and you? I feel like me, you, and Pill, or Poke, rather. Pill. Sorry. Poke. I feel like we're pretty good homies at this point. We should probably just start a group chat. No, you ain't my homie. What? No, you ain't my homie. All right. I keep telling you, checking on your chain. what you gonna do for us, bro? Like, give us the same opportunity you get these weird niggas to tell their stories.

1:32:28Tell them how they knock somebody out. Like, who knocks somebody out and then allow somebody else to play with their booty? That's called rape with a foreign object when I was in county jail. And I am against that. Are you sure? Yes. Because I'm saying you still got him up here hollering and screaming in people's face after the fact. Like, my whole thing is that, like, see, when I was coming up and I went to prison, excuse me, before I went to the county jail, it was a mythical person. I never met him before. But his name was Talal from Great Street. That's a cool name. Talal used to run around, knock people out, and suck their dick.

1:33:05Is 4Xer that knew him? I don't think. No. No? I don't think we'd be interested in anything like that. No. No? You don't think so? Absolutely not. Same behavior. Knock somebody out, and then somebody else takes sexual advantage of them. He sat on this podcast and said he did not do the kerating. Okay, but you've got a whole other dude from his side saying he did. I don't know. The dude from, yeah, you know. I can't fact check it. Okay, why you can't? Why you can't? All I can do is ask him. Why you can't fact check it because it's on the internet? Is it? Yes, it's on the internet. A bunch of people's opinions are on the internet.

1:33:37I could never prove it one way or another. This is where it came from. I'm just trying to show you. Whether it happened or didn't happen, I'm just trying to show you the climate. Everybody's calling the hooves gay. But here you got a whole story about one of their beasts knocking somebody out and at best allowing some other neighborhoods to do something to him sexually. Then you got the whole situation with Foley and made up shit that he posted it to Munchie B. The whole time we had that conversation, we never said the word Hoover. You didn't have to care it conversation. I didn't even know that that was what this was allegedly.

1:34:12Well, I don't know what it is, what it is, bro. I'm just saying like, you shouldn't promote shit like that on your channel, bro. Well, I mean, I'm saying it's bad. He's saying he didn't do it. I feel like that's not really promotion. Shit. That's promotion. That's promotion. Like you promoting like sexual assaults and shit like that. That's not groovy at all. Like my whole point is that everybody always talking about the hoovers is gay. It's the hoovers is gay. But everything they doing is gay. Like just heard a story about this man knocking somebody out and something supposedly happened to the other guys.

1:34:44But then Foley posted did the fake shit to Munchie B. They say put peanut butter. So that's fake. That's good to know. I don't know. Okay. That would be good if it was. Okay. Well, like I said before, I'm not here to do any of that. I'm here for me. I'm just telling you the narrative that you guys have got going on. Right? Right? So that situation. Then you got Conrad from the Ave talking about you're going to knock somebody out and show their butt on Instagram? I mean, they're just trolling, right? I mean, Brick Baby was talking about Buka. I'm not going to troll with nobody's booty. like this is what I'm trying to explain to y 'all like how do you do that like you can't like come on man stop playing out here in the streets bro at least from my perspective it's not meant to be taken literally okay that's my whole point but it is kind of weird because people are actually doing that in jail but this is the climate they set this is the climate they set like I don't know what part of I'm going to knock you out or we can take this fate win it was a draw but if you lose I'm going to do something sexy to you.

1:35:54That would never be attached to my land, ever. It never has been. I've been claiming this just for decades. If you like that, you like that. But if you're not, you'll never hear it. If somebody said it, you'd be like, you know it's a lie. What I don't like about it is the fact that you always hear about dudes who fight each other in jail, and even though they're technically enemies or whatever, they end up becoming cool at least cordial afterwards i think that's great that that at least is like the purpose of the fight is so that you can have a respectable relationship afterwards right but then if you do something that's so humiliating that like nobody's ever going to forget about it to the person while they're knocked out obviously that completely changes that then you've got like a a forever war but it's a forever war but just let me explain something to you.

1:36:46A heterosexual man, right, would never even think about anything like that. They would never even think about, I'm going to knock this man out and then I'm going to play with his butt or suck his dick. Nobody would even talk about no shit like that. So in order for you to talk about that, it has to be some sort of truth lingering in there some way. and the truth that lingered in so way it even affected a whole other gang to where they emulated what they heard they did with the pickle yeah that's fucked I'm saying so that's the climate that you bringing about bro I haven't done it I've just asked somebody about it on the podcast and talked about it it's not like I fucking promoted it no you didn't promote it but I'm saying you making it seem like it's cool what a disclaimer You got a disclaimer saying we don't promote any sexual assault?

1:37:42Do you want me to put a disclaimer on our video saying we don't promote carrot rape? Because I'll do it. I don't care. I'm down. That's called rape with a foreign object, whether it's a carrot, a gun, or whatever it is. And I don't think that shit's funny, bro. Right. I don't think that's funny. I'm staunchly against that. It don't seem like it. But that's just my opinion. I mean never would I I just explained like how I feel like how I think it's actually it takes violence to a point where you can't make it any better from there and I feel like that's I'm just trying to explain something to you I have sons I would never dehumanize myself to dehumanize another person when I already won that's not even human how I'm explaining to my son.

1:38:35Yeah, son, I'll knock him out and suck a carrot in his ass. But don't do no gay shit. How do you do that? I mean, I agree. Why is that so tantalizing that people just want to do it so bad that they... Because they're gay. You think? You're dealing with a violent gay gang member. These dudes are gay. Anybody that we talk about knocking a man out, I just told you the story of the dude tied out. He's a 6 '5 punk. posted Ben from Grape Street. This is the rumors, the stories, the hood myths. I've never seen him before. But the story is that he would knock you out and suck your dick if he liked you.

1:39:15So what's the difference in knocking somebody else out and letting somebody else suck their dick, somebody else play with their booty? You're still involved in it. Again, I am against this. Yeah, I bet you are. You're so convinced about me that you think I'm a fed? in favor of male-on-male rape. Yes, with foreign objects. With carrots, all kinds of different produce. Pickles, carrots, God knows what else. Can you do me a favor? Can you fit that to the back? Every time I see you, I get a whole like, what they doing up in here? Appreciate you. He just told the guy running the boards, Donnie, to turn his hat around because you're that bothered by your op's hat of choice.

1:39:59He's a white boy. You don't know what that was wearing. They got white boys from over there, too, just like we got white boys from where we from. Yeah, but he ain't one of them. I don't know, y 'all. I don't employ anybody who works in the office that's an active gang member. You got four extra. You got a fucking clown. They do podcasts. It's all the same shit. I'm just saying. He here, he get all the bullshit they got. You was in here when them diggas in here, all that bullshit they had going on? You was here? Yeah. I don't know, he was here. So that means he's susceptible to their rhetoric to their propaganda Do you think he might end up becoming a crip?

1:40:36Who? Donnie? No, I'm from Seattle originally Oh, then you know where the Hoover's at up there On Hoover, we got three, four different sets up there on gang Oh, nice, nice I think I've seen Hulk up there before Yeah, we at, uh-huh, a Hulk Stop playing You really just banged on the video guy, huh? I just told him that he's from seattle though okay i'm from hoover i'm from the boston area so i would wear a b hat if i was a guy who wore hats would you be willing to accept that for me as like a non-participant in gang life if you're not a participant in gang life i'm also not really a baseball fan did that mean you just throw orchester let me just throw it it's not even trolling i used to wear those hats all the time though when i lived in new york I was still in the hat part of my life you know who

1:41:39they took our merch they're straight off figure roll

1:41:51I'm suing the Hooters oh damn here y 'all go Got me in trouble. Move it up. We were made that. The Adam 22. Oh, you like that one? I already got it. I need that. You're going to have that one. Yeah. They were taking it anyway. You see that? They were taking it anyway. Poke is going to wear an Adam 22 hoodie. How do you feel about that? Probably not. You don't think so? All right. We ain't taking nothing from here that we ain't supposed to be taking. We heard you the police. You probably been telling me. Put a Fed case on you. No, I probably put a LoJack. Where you stay at these days? why you want to know out the way out the way why because I pretty don't want to hurt nobody else bro I'm 50 years old it's a whole new game quiet life is better if I had one so you still live a wild life live in La Vida Loca nah not at all but I'm always in tune with my my nephews.

1:42:53Why do you think so many people kind of outgrow gang life and you've never really wavered? Well, I mean, I mean, shit, I'm not really sure, but at the same time, maybe they felt that their commitment to what they believed in was wavered or, you know what I mean, was lessened. For me, it's the opposite. I believe in my community. You know what I'm saying? This gang is just the military faction of our community. We have a whole community. Okay, but there's like believing in your community and then there's telling the video you gotta turn his hat around because it's a neighborhood hat. That's like a different level of commitment.

1:43:46If I say I'm willing to die for this shit right now, just like you're sitting with fire, I'm sitting with fire. Right. I just think it's kind of interesting that it... Was there ever a time when you thought about leaving it behind and just having a different type of life?

1:44:04Leaving a different... Leaving my family behind? I mean, just hanging it up and just deciding, you know what, I'm not going to speak about this shit anymore. I'm going to just leave this as part of my past. I mean it's a part of my past right now but at the same time I'm a part of this you don't retire you just go to a different position I respect it how you gonna not stop believing in something that you're willing to die for no for sure

1:44:44okay oh man that was good talking to you even though you kind of flip a script on me okay well I'll be ready for the next one I feel like we're going to do more of these yeah I agree I bet you is I'm with you so you might as well put me on the schedule what are we doing yeah we'll figure it out did you get anything you needed oh shit I guess I missed a 4 extra call while we were doing this oh yeah

1:45:09okay I'll have to figure that out he's going to press you he's going to press you You been here getting bullied by them niggas, Adam. You been here getting bullied, Adam. What they been doing here to you, Adam? Who? Four extra there. What they been here doing to you? You been bullying me? King Peele. King Peele. I wouldn't even get to that nigga. Like, we still rolling. We still trolling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay, right.

1:45:37What was our situation about? No, it's just, okay. But we care because it's a whole situation that you didn't cause. You caused all this, Adam. You caused all this. Even the King Kills. Also, you said we didn't get to that. We definitely talked about that. We did? Yeah. Okay, well, maybe I'm trying to get on your ass again. Yeah, I think that's it to say. Shout out, Gumby. Shout out to all the Hoovers, the whole Groove community out there. One nation under a Groove, if you will. Oh, God. Excuse me. Oh, yes. We ain't got to that part yet. Let's start on our next one. check it ain't cheating check and subscribe on the real nigga TV hi Adam12 we out no John Bercoules podcast like comment and subscribe shout out Gumby it's alright this episode is brought to you by ChatGPT hey it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast have you guys heard about ChatGPT work it's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects and when you need more than just answers.

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