OG Kunta on His Beef with Gumby, Texas vs LA Hoover Drama, Slapping 607 Unc & More

23 Mar 2026 · 2 h 8 min · 59 chapters

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In short

OG Kunta (Fort Worth, Texas) discusses Texas vs Los Angeles/Hoover politics, claiming there’s no “generational beef” in Texas and no ongoing HCG vs GC war on the streets. He argues that internet personalities (especially “Real Tune,” aka Gumby’s media connection) exaggerated or fabricated divisions to create drama and money. He also comments on Gumby’s recent arrest (described as aggravated stalking) and the fallout from Gumby’s interviews and online posts, including claims about K2 use and “fake news” narratives. He further debates media ethics and whether reporting arrests is justified.

Guests

OG Kunta is the main guest. The host is Adam (No Jumper). OG Kunta’s partner is CEO Hockley (described as a Texas community entrepreneur/philanthropist). Other named figures appear as references: Gumby, Real Tune, Unk, T-Rell, Crip Mac, Brick Baby, OG Percy, and Cartel Bo.

Key claims

  1. Texas Hoovers/Crips don’t have generational beef like California; violence is reduced by shared prison politics and “beef stops” at state lines.
  2. Real Tune exploited North Texas vs South Texas confusion and helped keep a “fake war” alive for content.
  3. Gumby’s online statements (including “fuck Fort Worth” and tattoo/takeoff threats) are portrayed as not Hoover values.
  4. Gumby’s arrest is framed as aggravated stalking, with speculation about personal conflict.
  5. Real Tune is accused of profiting from “fake news” and K2-related behavior (Real K2 TV).

Notable examples

  • Fort Worth “Fort Murder Worth” copyright attempt.
  • Gumby allegedly being “banned” from a hood and charging/contracting for interviews.
  • Gumby and Real Tune’s role in spreading HCG/GC conflict online.
  • Discussion of racism/ethics in media reporting (e.g., “African booty scratcher” referenced).

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Chapters

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Upbringing and Early Life

1:30 to 3:35

OG Kunta shares his experiences growing up in Fort Worth and gang involvement.

“CEO Hockley, a good brother, man, powerful brother.”

Texas Gang Politics vs. California

3:35 to 5:57

Explore the differences in gang politics between Texas and California.

“We never had generational beef in Texas.”

The Impact of Gang Culture

5:57 to 8:00

Discuss the effects of gang culture on violence and community in Texas.

“Rob, you know, steal, you know, you name it.”

Hoover Politics and Internet Fame

8:00 to 11:14

OG Kunta talks about Hoover politics, internet presence, and recent conflicts.

“And then, number two, you know, the dude that was doing it, you know what I'm saying, Scumby.”

Gumby's Controversy and Arrest

11:14 to 14:01

Analyze the controversy surrounding Gumby and his recent legal issues.

“Oh, well, he was saying that I was he called a neighborhood jumper and said that I was basically doing too much with the neighborhood Crips.”

Analyzing Gumby's Situation

14:01 to 15:00

Discussion about Gumby's narrative and circumstances leading to his arrest.

“Look, if he changed his message and narrative, you know what I'm saying?”

Fort Worth's Reaction to Real Tune

15:01 to 17:26

Explanation of how Real Tune exploited the culture in Fort Worth and caused issues.

“He was probably sitting out there with a two-foot-long butt.”

K2 and Real K2 TV

17:27 to 18:14

Discussion on Real Tune's past with K2 and his media platform name.

“The only people I ever heard of smoking K2 is either like homeless people or dudes in prison.”

Gumby's Involvement and Misunderstandings

18:15 to 20:04

Exploration of how Gumby involved himself in Texas gang culture and misunderstandings that arose.

“Usually they do it in jail and then they get out and they try to act like they did.”

Texas Gang Politics Explained

20:05 to 22:18

Insight into the politics of Texas gangs and the distinction between HCG and ACG.

“When I seen what he did when he went and took the Cats solo from Houston all the way, you know what I'm saying, to the land.”
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Gumby's Influence on Gang Perceptions

22:19 to 24:28

How Gumby's actions influenced perceptions and relationships between gangs in Texas and California.

“Ground zero for gang activity in South Texas.”

The Evolution of Gang Understanding

24:29 to 28:02

Discussion on the historical context of gang culture and the impact of the Internet on modern gang perceptions.

“He actually said he happy to be back in jail.”

The Evolution of Information Sharing

28:02 to 29:28

Learn about how the access to information has changed over the decades and its impact on youth perceptions.

“But what's happening here is this Adam a lot of you gotta remember a lot of this start in Cali in the 70s, right?”

Understanding Miscommunication in Gang Culture

29:28 to 30:58

Discover the complexities of communication within gang culture and the challenges of interpretation.

“We just ran into the Mormons at the airport.”

Critiquing Media Personalities and Their Influence

30:58 to 33:08

Explore the role of media personalities in shaping narratives and the implications of their actions.

“No, that's called throwing rocks and hiding your hands.”

The Nature of Relationships in the Media

33:08 to 34:26

Learn about the intertwined relationships between media figures and their subjects.

“We can box, we can punch, we can do whatever.”

Dissecting Claims and Controversies

34:26 to 36:22

Examine claims made in the media and the controversy surrounding them, particularly regarding personal reputations.

“Everybody got their own habits, you know what I'm saying?”

The Responsibility of Media Personalities

36:22 to 39:49

Understand the responsibilities that come with being a media personality and the ethical dilemmas involved.

“Him making videos like that, though, makes me feel like you are probably trying to see him.”

Cultural Dynamics in Gang Relations

39:49 to 42:00

Delve into the cultural dynamics between different groups in gang relations and their historical context.

“Because, Adam, how many times have you been to jail?”

Cultural Integration and Racism

42:00 to 43:30

Discussion on the integration of cultures and racism between Mexicans and Blacks.

“Now, y 'all eventually established y 'all owns.”

The State of Gang Relations

43:30 to 45:20

Exploration of coexistence and conflicts between Black and Mexican gangs.

“Because there is a lot of backdoor racism going on, you know what I'm saying?”

The Role of Journalism and Reporting

45:20 to 47:20

Delving into the ethics of journalism and reporting on personal stories.

“When does it come insensitive to a person you do business with, employee or coworker, to report their business even though that's part of your job?”

Belief Systems and Religion

47:20 to 50:10

Debate on personal beliefs, religion, and the concept of a higher power.

“He said, no, he said religion is the opium of the people.”

Religion's Influence on Society

50:10 to 52:40

Discussion on how religion impacts society, both positively and negatively.

“It's not none of these images or none of this religious fanatic madness.”

Interacting with Controversial Figures

52:40 to 55:10

Insights into interactions with controversial individuals within the community.

“Whatever they say, you know, staged or whatever.”

Setting Up Content and Collaborations

55:10 to 56:00

Discussion on content creation and the dynamics of collaboration in media.

“especially one like him, a real general.”

Discussing Spells and Podcast Dynamics

56:00 to 57:09

The hosts talk about spells and a recent podcast episode's confrontational nature.

“Because then he went to put spells on you and curses on you.”

Avoiding Conflict and Maintaining Respect

57:10 to 58:29

They discuss the importance of maintaining respect and avoiding unnecessary conflict during podcasts.

“He went straight to the elephant in the room.”

Gumby's Texas Connections and Reputation

58:30 to 1:01:01

A conversation about Gumby's stay in Texas and the implications on his reputation.

“because, you know, I was reading the whole time on all the energy, you know what I'm saying, and I didn't like it.”

The Need for Change and Fighting Culture

1:01:02 to 1:04:12

They discuss how fighting culture should change to promote positive behaviors and conflict resolution.

“Probably hiding from the law or something, right?”

Unk's Dilemma and Accountability

1:04:13 to 1:08:30

The hosts share stories about Unk's situation with squatters and the importance of accountability.

“This is something that we got to start promoting in the community.”

Evaluating Unk's Role and Identity

1:08:31 to 1:10:00

They evaluate Unk's role within the community and his true identity as a Hoover.

“And I told them youngers late, man, y 'all come on out of there with that madness, man.”

Navigating Gang Identity and Respect

1:10:00 to 1:11:39

Learn about the complexities of gang identity and the importance of respect among different factions.

“This fool diving face first into some shit that'll kill your dad.”

The Impact of Tattoos on Gang Relations

1:11:40 to 1:14:41

Explore how tattoos can escalate tensions and influence relationships between rival gangs.

“Definitely he needs to be supervised if he's going to be anywhere near Munchie B.”

Cultural Differences in Gang Warfare

1:14:42 to 1:17:30

Understand how gang culture varies between Texas and California and its implications for violence.

“Like, hey, on some real inside shit, yeah, you know, friendly fade.”

Prison Politics and Gang Dynamics

1:17:31 to 1:23:53

Learn how incarceration influences gang dynamics and fosters unexpected alliances.

“I've been having that tattoo for a long time.”

Discussion on Texas Hoover Members

1:24:00 to 1:25:12

Learn about the infamous Texas Hoover members and their reputations.

“What about probably one of the most famous Texas Hoover members that was on this podcast, Tony Wilrich?”

Critique of Tony Wilrich

1:25:12 to 1:26:38

Explore the controversial figure Tony Wilrich and the perceptions around him.

“What that was, man, don't never on guard, man.”

The Divide in Gang Culture

1:26:38 to 1:28:48

Understand the cultural distinctions within gang affiliations and their implications.

“your page, and you knew that he was coming out of Fort Worth, you had an idea, Adam.”

Exploring the Intersection of Gang Life and Media

1:28:48 to 1:30:14

Delve into how media influences perceptions of gang members and their narratives.

“Well, I fumbled it because I did not use this as an opportunity.”

Conflict and Accountability in the Gang Scene

1:30:14 to 1:32:08

Discuss the responsibilities of media figures in representing gang narratives.

“This was a, you can imagine it works because we all know who he is.”

The Texas Entertainment Scene

1:32:08 to 1:34:14

Examine the relationships and tensions among entertainers in Texas.

“I don't even think Percy's name came up in that episode.”

Reactions to Personal Controversies

1:34:14 to 1:35:38

Investigate reactions to personal scandals within the entertainment community.

“You don't believe the words coming out of your mouth.”

Defending Personal Choices

1:35:38 to 1:36:55

Understand the discussions around personal choices and their public implications.

“You got some dildo pics in there, so what I'm saying is that, bro.”

Discussion on Sword Fighting

1:38:00 to 1:38:20

The hosts humorously discuss avoiding sword fighting in their dynamic.

FaceTime with Go Yayo

1:38:21 to 1:40:50

A heated FaceTime call with Go Yayo reveals tensions and accusations.

“You hear me trying to tell us the truth, and we don't want to hear it.”

Defending Heterosexuality

1:40:51 to 1:41:54

Hosts discuss the controversies surrounding Go Yayo's perceived actions.

“But hey, my niggas out there from the city, y 'all boys doing something good.”

Discussion on Diddy

1:41:55 to 1:43:20

The conversation shifts to discussing Diddy and societal views on sexuality.

“He ain't even mad at me about the booty.”

Sauce Walker's Controversy

1:43:21 to 1:45:48

Exploring the beef and dynamics between the hosts and Sauce Walker.

“Me and him had a little roll in the hay.”

Texas Artists and Hating

1:45:49 to 1:48:22

A debate on supporting Texas artists versus hating on their success.

“No, like five, six, seven, 8 ,000, yeah.”

Analyzing Sauce Walker's Career

1:48:23 to 1:50:58

The hosts analyze Sauce Walker's career trajectory and accusations.

“How come nobody else out in Texas is doing that?”

Background & Opportunities

1:50:59 to 1:52:00

Discussing the differences in backgrounds and opportunities between the hosts.

“malicious malicious yeah I'm all that and more right so because it's a sore thumb because if he wants beef with me don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house, all right?”

New Hampshire's Unique Culture

1:52:00 to 1:53:19

Learn about the unique aspects of New Hampshire culture and its identity.

“Because you got to fall off, you have to go down.”

The Intense Photo Moment with 607 Unc

1:53:20 to 1:55:14

Hear the story of a tense moment during a photo op that almost escalated.

“He grabs you and says that, and you immediately are not feeling it at all.”

Facing Threats in Media

1:55:15 to 1:56:54

Explore the challenges and threats faced by media personalities in their work.

“Yeah, because I told him I was going to slap him.”

Street Encounters and Risk Tolerance

1:56:55 to 1:58:16

Discuss experiences with violence and how they shape risk tolerance.

“who is like actually out of his mind and I asked him about Nipsey Hussle losing his life and he started screaming in my face and then almost immediately started crying.”

Content Creation Dynamics

1:58:17 to 1:59:54

Unpack the dynamics of content creation and interpersonal relationships in the industry.

“I've seen a Mexican waiter get blammed in the head when I was just riding down the street.”

Reflections on South by Southwest

1:59:55 to 2:03:11

Hear reflections on the past and present significance of South by Southwest.

“I mean, I wish he had enough sense to leave Real Tune.”

Intro to Unique Perspective and Day Room

2:06:00 to 2:07:20

Discussion about the Unique Perspective channel and experiences in the day room.

“And that's who I really want to introduce you to.”
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0:58Adam22:No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today we're bringing y 'all something very, very important and special on behalf of Texas, Los Angeles, and the whole Hoover community. OG Kunta is in the building. What's good? What's good, man? It's great to be in the building, my guy. Happy to be here, man. This is going to be a good one. We got a lot of history to go through and much more. Right, right, right. And introduce us to your partner. Okay, well, you already know, man. It's one of the hardest working dudes in Texas, man, period. I'm talking about Jack of our trades, master of none. I mean, this CEO Hockley himself, Mr.

1:34CEO Hockley, a good brother, man, powerful brother. You know, got some initiative in the community, you know what I'm saying, showing philanthropy, you know, just basically showing entrepreneurship and, you know, financial independence. Facts. Facts.

1:47Adam22:Yeah, we're happy to have you here. So, okay, just to get into it, though, tell me a little bit about your upbringing and and what life was like before the modern era that we're going to spend a lot of time talking about here. Okay, well, shit. My life really was simple, man. I grew up in Fort Worth, you know what I'm saying? In Fort Worth, you know, for a long period of time, it's been infested with gangs, you know what I'm saying? Me, myself, being, you know, a member of the Fort Worth community, I also find myself involved into the gangs, you know what I'm saying, you know, and the politics that was going on.

2:17So after 35, 36 years of my life, being on the streets, not all of it is active gang member. Because that's another thing that I really want to talk about is about the difference in the politics. Because everybody seemed to keep making that a problem. And it's really not a problem because politics is different everywhere. We got the United States, but ain't no state got the same laws.

2:43Adam22:But did you grow up knowing that your community was largely, you know, consistent of Hoover members or when did that come into focus? OK, well, see, Hoover, Hoover came really kind of like in like 88. OK. 88 to Fort Worth. And were you familiar with like who was kind of spreading that there? I'm familiar with that, but I ain't going to drop those names. OK. I'm not going to do that. For sure. Yeah, I'm familiar with those people. they went with them you know a couple of those brothers are still alive to this day okay you know and a couple of them were not before that was it all sort of local gangs not la names more like a posse thing you know you had you know you had neighborhoods you know i'm saying everybody was kind of like a neighborhood posse okay and then the crips and the bloods came and everybody chose a side okay pretty much for sure but see where our politics differ from here is that we We never had generational beef in Texas.

3:38We never had that. See, a lot of people, you know, they try to say, well, why is Texas not beefing like California? Because there is no generational beef in Texas. There is in California. You know what I'm saying? And there's no disrespect to that, you know, because I understand, you know, people are where they come from. And, you know, some people are trapped in that type of thought. But see, what freed us from it was that we began to get locked up. Like me and his brother, we did time together. Okay. Me and his brother here, we did time together. You know what I'm saying? Me and him, we the same thing.

4:11But as you can see, we not.

4:14Adam22:Okay. We not the same thing. Yeah. How can I see that though? Yeah, because I'm a media person now. Oh, okay. And he isn't. Got it. That's the best way to see it. For sure. But that wasn't an option during your youth. Right. The media personality was a lot more different. Yeah, it was a lot more different. You got an internship at the local TV station or something. You finna go, nah, you finna go down through that. You got to be live on the scene. Can we get the AC on the thing? We gotta remember to do that. I keep telling them to do it and they don't do it. But okay, so, but growing up though, would you say, cause like, I assume you saw this vlog that I did with Go Yeo when I was out there.

4:51Adam22:Yeah. And you know, he was telling me that Fort Worth is an absolutely vicious place. It truly is. Murder Worth, murder worth. Yeah. That's what it's called. And was it always like that? Like even when you were a kid, do it always kind of have that reputation? Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm going to say this 100 percent. Since I was a child, my forefathers were gangsters. They just were not gang members. OK. See. Now, remember, just because you a gangster don't mean you have to be necessarily a gang member. You got a lot of dudes that are gangsters and they ain't got nothing to do with gangs. But that's more of the older first generation of the brothers out here.

5:26Because, you know, when you look back in the history, you see the mob. The mob had a lot of effect and a lot of influence on the way black people was moving for a period of time. And then the gangs got the influence of the youth, the black youth. And then that's kind of where everything kind of went amok.

5:42Adam22:For sure. What was the music that was the soundtrack to your childhood and everything? I'm just interested. Minutes to Society. Okay. No lie. Minutes to Society. I mean, I've been, I was in the streets since I was like 12, 11 years old. I mean, I done did everything. Rob, you know, steal, you know, you name it. You know what I'm saying? No teardrops, but it's definitely some tears to go on there, you get me, real life. Because, you know, my neighborhood, my city, we was, you know, the gangbanging culture is very serious there, you know. Now, as it is now, things have become a lot more about respect and it's to mouth a lot of stuff down.

6:21But back in the early 90s, it was kill to be killed. Right. I mean, wherever corner you went and you didn't have on the right color, somebody popped at your head.

6:31Adam22:Yeah. Do you think that when all this gang stuff came to Texas that it made it a lot worse overall, a lot more dangerous? Well, in the sense of black-on-black crime, yes. Violence. Yeah, of course it did. And this is where, you know, Texas kind of like stood up and did something different, you see. Because, see, if you notice in Texas, Texas has got, here go, you know, we got all kinds of Crips and we all on the same page. When Texas, when you go into Texas, Texas is like the Mecca or the Medina of Crippen. You know what I'm saying? See, this is Mecca right here. We in Mecca right now, 100 percent, because this is the pilgrimage.

7:09This is where Crippen and Blood had its authenticity at right here. Right. Okay. But when you come to Texas, you get a different experience because no one's beefing there. The Hoovers are not hated all over the state of Texas, number one. And then the Hoovers in the 6-0s ain't beefing. The Hoovers in the neighborhoods ain't beefing. The Hoovers in the 30s, the Hoovers, anybody that's cripping in Texas, the beef stops at the line, at the county line. I mean, at the state line. It stops. Most of the guys that come from here and go down there, they see that immediately. But then what my problem is, is why have not none of these brothers gotten up and stopped the madness.

7:49Because, see, I'm on this side of the fence. I was the brother that was trying to make sure that there was never going to be a HCG and GC war because that's, number one, black on black crime. You know what I'm saying? And then, number two, you know, the dude that was doing it, you know what I'm saying, Scumby. Yeah, Scumby, and I'm calling him that. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man, we're going to have a hard time avoiding getting into all that. Yeah, well, he going to get mad at me, but I don't care because he kind of, like, brought this to where it's at now. Brought it to the Internet. He brought it to the Internet.

8:17I didn't bring no beef with no California. I ain't never got no beef with no California, nothing. So when I got on the internet, it was never about beefing. It was about setting the record straight. Hoover is Hoover, no matter where you at. Because see, if we get into it with anybody, they're not going to say, oh, check and see if you're HCG or GC.

8:36Adam22:Right. So we got to start making it make sense. Okay, so for the people out there, I just want to spell it out so they understand. is that basically at a certain point, however many years ago, the Hoovers in L.A. decided this, we ain't Crips anymore, we're criminals, and they stopped saying Hoover Gangster Crip, and it turns into Hoover Criminal Gang, right, ACG? No, it's, and then, you know, I really don't, you know, I'm not one of these guys that want to put no Crip information over the Internet. Right. But I will say this, it wasn't like that. it's been periods and times where Hoover has turned its face in a different direction.

9:17Adam22:Okay. You know, because see, Hoover at one point, you know, still is to this day, it associates with Crip. Right. Five Deuce, my set, associates with the whole Crip car. And the Five Deuces in L.A. are still the only set of Hoovers that still claim to be Crips. They're the one holdout. No, I think 107 still is. There's a lot of sets that are Hoover that still are down with the Crips. You know what I'm saying? And if you can believe it or not, a lot of the other sets are considering coming back to the Crip Car. Really? Because really, that's really what sense do it make for us to be divided. You know, and this is, you know, the message, you know, because, you know, it was, you know, with all the nonsense and all the stuff that went on between me and Gumby back and forth on it, you know, it was really most so content.

10:03But, you know, the playing field got corrupt, you know, when people started throwing, you know, slurs, because he went as far as to say Fort Worth. Scumby said that. And that was a low blow because Fort Worth didn't do nothing to Scumby. Nobody in Fort Worth had a problem with him. He had a problem with us. See?

10:26Adam22:Because they did a Real Tune interview where him and a bunch of his homies. Don't speak that man. Real Tune. Okay. Yeah. His name is Real Tune. You got rules in here because in Texas we have fake media, not fake games. so some of the media is fake gangs ain't fake the media they consider themselves journalists but they really just bullshit all this slime balls so real tuna had him say some disparaging things but he started here with you Adam you platformed him you don't remember who? Scumby oh yeah but I think I didn't have Gumby on the podcast until after I saw that interview cause he talked shit about me in that interview and that made me reach out to him and say hey let's talk about this let's do a podcast Let's get to it.

11:11But I'm saying he came because he said you was platforming other members and not his community.

11:15Adam22:Oh, well, he was saying that I was he called a neighborhood jumper and said that I was basically doing too much with the neighborhood Crips. And so you put him on and he in jail.

11:27Adam22:OK, but from what I'm hearing, he's in jail for aggravating aggravated stalking of like allegedly he has an issue with a girl. No, no. I don't really see how the podcast relates to that. You put the spotlight on him being a target because he asked to come up here and say he wanted to put the Hoovers on the internet. Remember? But to be fair, we didn't really do a lot of – I've had Hoovers on the podcast over the years, but we didn't – Gumby only came on, I think, three times total. He didn't bring a whole – he brought Polk on. He brought Polk, but he said that's why he was here. He said with Trell and them, they wasn't the real – he came to establish that no jumper.

12:07He thought when I had a fallout with T-Rell and them

12:09Adam22:that basically I had a vendetta against the Hoovers, which personally, I never even viewed T-Rell as like an actual Hoover. Shout out to T-Rell. He's from that area, but I never, you know. Come on, shout out to T-Rell, man. You know, I fuck with that go fig. Do you got to get put on to be a Hoover? You better believe it. Well, T-Rell's out then. What? See that? Not Adam. No, no, no. It's just real journalism work. It's several ways that you could be put on because you could be born into it by your people. Your people. Oh, so you think he's paying? No, I don't think he's paying. Oh, okay. I was saying, but is that real journalism work?

12:44Well, where is you coming in? Because you wasn't there in the 80s or the 90s. I asked around. Oh, you asked. So journalism work. Asking around is how valuable are those sources? So you started shit.

12:55Adam22:My sources are vetted. Oh, they vetted sources? Big vetted. Okay, okay, okay. But you let Gumby come. Gumby's goal was to put his flag on the internet for the Hoovers, and the flag that he wanted to plant was right here at No Jumper. And now he in jail. And the last year or two has been filled with a lot of Hoover politicking on the internet, which they didn't really have a lot of that prior to the last year. To him. It wasn't supposed to ever be like it either. They were like the last gang from L.A. that didn't really have a lot of that shit out there. They don't want to be still to this day.

13:28Adam22:They shouldn't be out there. Yeah. But he came and you let him on for the community. Remember? You helped out. But to be fair, then he immediately kind of started doing it himself. He started doing all this stuff with Unk. Nah, we ain't being fair. You paid, Adam. Once you pay the money, the machine can't stop. It got to keep going. I might have given him some gas money. You know, I helped him. Nah, you're saying that shit. You know why you open the stove, the stove don't close? Yeah, you done started it. You open the stove. I feel it. But I mean, I do feel like Gumby has star power. He's somebody that the people want to hear from.

14:03Right. And that's how he started it. Look, if he changed his message and narrative, you know what I'm saying? Because see, the narrative that Gumby is painting is the reason why he's in the position he is. But do you really think that? No, come on, man.

14:18Adam22:He was mad at his girl, so he was lurking out of prison. That's what I'm imagining in my head. I don't know if that's actually what happened. You're a journalist. Hold on. You're a journalist. What happened? You tell us. from your journalism work of the Gumby case. From what we saw in the arrest report, it said he was arrested for aggravated stalking. So he was like, I don't know, probably blicked up sitting outside his girl's house in a car or something. I don't know how aggravated he got. And I hope he wasn't doing no tweaker shit. I'm going to ask you that. How do you aggravate stalking? I'm just asking.

14:47He was probably just mad as fuck. You got simple robbery. He was aggravated. That's that Gumby look right now.

14:53Adam22:That's that Gumby look. I'm saying you got simple robbery, then you got aggravated robbery. I don't know. I don't know. I would love to know. He was probably sitting out there with a two-foot-long butt. Come on, good. No, no, let's not kill him, dog. Yeah, yeah, no. Let's not kill him. I fuck with him. I don't want to. Let's not kill him. We got to give him a little bit of a hard time. You need to get your ass back in your house, man. You paid him. He's been on the show three times. Uh-huh. Now, why nobody bonds him out? Straight up. Does he have a bond? I don't know. I mean, I'm sure he do got a bond.

15:26Adam22:Yeah, I mean. Somebody ought to bail him out. I don't know. But what about you? You don't want to say he got stone power. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. How much is it? $7 ,500. Three interviews. Shit. Yeah, it's like four interviews. Okay, let's think about the first interview you're going to get. That's a steep price. I just saw a Crip Mac interview kind of pop the roof. That was pretty good. Pretty good. So you don't think. You're going to be probably in there mad as hell. Yeah. About to break out. just to respond but I'm saying he got something to compete with so hey man you might be able $2500 is crazy I don't know what they paying out there in Texas I don't know what real tune paying tune up you talking about tune up oh he said no money in the room no money in the room he specifically said he had no money for it oh yeah he asked him wondering what he paying what can you pay when there's no money in the room yeah I don't know oh real tune there's real money in the room no money in the room yeah no money no money is present scumbag yeah no money wait so what where did things go level with him what's your issue Man, let me tell you about this scumbag ass dude.

16:28Adam22:I would love to know. Yeah. Okay. Now, first of all, he is like a old sword that never healed. Ooh. That's a metaphor. Yeah. He just been corrupt from the very beginning, and there was never really going to ever be any healing going on in the first place. He came in a sense of commiseration. You know what to commiserate means, right? to like be depressed about something and have like a negative. Yeah, he came with sad and depressing news because he came into Fort Worth. So he's not from Fort Worth? No. Man, this fool tried to copyright the name Fort Murder Worth, man. This dude is that obsessed with Fort Worth.

17:10He came over there filming the culture of the city, right? But he exploited it. Not only did he exploit it, but he got people. people done lost their lives behind the stuff that he was promoting. Really? Wow. Yeah. Just do some homework on that. And then, yeah, that dude a K2 head. You know what I'm saying? He smokes K2. Yeah, he's a K2 head. That's what Tune stands for. Real. No, you laughing. That's what I'm saying. Ain't no money in the room. It's real.

17:40Adam22:Tune. The only people I ever heard of smoking K2 is either like homeless people or dudes in prison. No, so people saying in the early 2010s and 12s, it became a fad on the street because it became disrespected. And so in that time, he was a teenager, adolescent, and he caught hold to the popular wave. So once he has a few episodes that led him to jail, he stopped doing it, but he named his new media platform Real K2 TV. What the f***? That's insane. That is? I never heard anybody being proud of smoking K2 like that. Usually they do it in jail and then they get out and they try to act like they did.

18:18Imagine you saying Real Dauphin TV. You understand what I'm saying?

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18:22Adam22:But so you think that he actually like came to Fort Worth and basically involved himself in interviewing as many Hoos as possible in order to kind of stir up shit. Yes, he did. No, he did. And then came to LA as well. He did that. Everybody. Not just in Fort Worth. But see, he got sore at Fort Worth because we recognized the pot of bullshit. We smelled the pot of bullshit and dumped it out. So he get mad, and in his sense of being vengeful or a sense of revenge, he started a smear campaign on Fort Worth. You know, like the dirty reporter that found out that, you know, the president's wife ain't got on no drugs.

19:01You know what I'm saying? So they finna go in there and find out, hey, man, y 'all ain't got on no drugs. He inspires to be you.

19:09Adam22:Okay. I don't know how you, well, where you from, Canada? New Hampshire. New Hampshire. Right outside Boston. Yeah, I don't even know where that's at. I can't even spell that. Very few people do. You're where white people are from. So how does a person like yourself inspire somebody from a plantation town in Texas? I don't know. But he's inspired. I think everybody want to be a YouTuber these days. No, this ain't YouTube. He want to be Adam22, gang man. Really? He wants gang members. Okay. Yeah. So he's not from a hood. He's not involved with that from birth or anything? Man, this dude is square as a pool table.

19:42He's inspired by you.

19:44Adam22:It's just a group. You show he ain't from New Hampshire? I don't think so. You don't think so? I might have to look into his paperwork. You might have to look into it because we think he from New Hampshire. Damn, all right. But so were you even familiar with Gumby before he did the interview with Gumby? No, I wasn't. I wasn't. I didn't know that he was coming for me. No, because this is how it happened, right? When I seen what he did when he went and took the Cats solo from Houston all the way, you know what I'm saying, to the land. Okay. And they went to, you know, politicking about, you know, the right and the wrong of Hoover.

20:21I got interested then because I felt like that was all misnomer, you know. And that was my first time meeting Gumby then because I read you out to Gumby. I read you out to Gumby through Realtune. Okay. Me and Gumby, we got a relationship through real tunes. But real tunes was always trying to be an instigator. He always wanted to play the narrative to make it look like there was a beef that was never even there. See, Gumby was a fool. He was reckless because he let that dude put a key in his back. See, real tunes this whole time been putting keys in Gumby's back to keep the gangbanging fake war going between the HCGs and the GCs.

21:06Especially in Texas, there is no HCG and GC war. That's not happening.

21:10Adam22:Was there ever a hint of that? And then there was politics, people talked about it and got past it? That's exactly what happened. That's pretty much what happened. He interviewed people. So in Texas, you have, and this is me just being a historian in this, in prison, our politics is ran pretty much like the state of California, meaning like politics are north and south. You got people from North Cali, you got people from South Cali. They not on the same program. So and Iowa State is ran by North Texas, South Texas. Dallas being the biggest city in the North, Houston being the biggest city in the South.

21:44And in between that, you run into the discrepancies of different neighborhoods and sets. So you have an HGC and an ACG. But when they merge and get into prison, Texas prison, there's a beef because we from different parts of the state. And then there's a difference there. But after we get past the difference, there's no problem. So there's nobody running on the streets. He from Fort Worth. Facts. North Texas. I'm from Galveston, Texas. Got it. Yeah. Ground zero for gang activity in South Texas.

22:22Adam22:and we got a relationship we got a relationship so that's really how it worked and what Real Tuna TV did was exploit the north and south confusion to make it into a war on there he did what you do I don't do that so he made it a conflict within Texas or Texas versus LA he made it within Texas first and then when it couldn't get as much traction he took it to LA because he needed people you know how this work, Adam. You need somebody to be disrespectful. Do you understand what I'm saying? Any disrespect on here is totally incidental. I don't go after that. That's just kind of... No, no. I'm not saying you know how it works.

23:03Adam22:Yeah, yeah. You need somebody... Drama and conflict. You wouldn't need somebody to cross the line. Sure. So he came out here to get Scumby to cross the line. And then he signed him to a contract. Did they tell you? Yeah. The OG matter of fact... I don't think he could do no jumper because the Gumby dude signed a contract. He was doing tons of content with Unk for a while there too. Yeah, we all Unk too. We looking for Unk. Yeah, we looking for Unk. We gonna make a wish with Unk. We just had him up. We gonna make a wish. That little poison bottle he got gotta go. Yeah? He gotta go. Well, we gonna have to talk about that as well.

23:38Adam22:We gonna make a wish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You grab the wishbone and you break that boy half. Cubs gonna get his legs and I'm gonna get his hand. We gonna see. Yeah, yeah, we got it. But so did Real Tune like successfully create real division between whoever's in Texas or was it able to be talked out again? Because it's great hearing about the fact that y 'all were able to get on the same page. No, he didn't. I'm not saying what he did as far as the solution. Yeah, the solution definitely came into play after all the ruckus. This is why I got on this topic so that it wouldn't be no bloodshed. I mean, I don't know if you follow my work, but I got on there and I spoke with a lot of known Hoovers from Texas.

24:16And we was all speaking about the fact that this was indeed a misnomer and real tuna was spreading fake news. Right, and it just didn't work. Gumby's a jay cat. That's what they call him out here, right? Yeah, a jay cat. Yeah, he a jay cat. That's why he back in jail. He actually said he happy to be back in jail. He said that. He a jay cat. He said that out his mouth. Probably a lot of stuff to do with that. He said, man, it's like I never left. I'm right back. Big Bubba's over here with his heart on him.

24:46Adam22:Not my Gumby. He really don't like the gay stuff. Yeah. Oh, wow. Gumby be tripping as soon as he make a gay joke. Yeah. You know, I don't like it at all. Yeah. Yeah. I heard about it. Wonder why. Wonder why. But anyway. All right. So that that so because my memory of watching that interview that Gumby did with a bunch of his homies is that when they started talking about the difference between HGC, ACG, they got mad as. Like, they were really offended by the idea of it. They were saying that if they see you in L.A. and you got the HCG or whatever tattooed on you, then they are going to remove the tattoo.

25:25Adam22:You better go get it covered up right now. Like, they were so serious about that shit. And you know what, bro? That's really, like, internet bullying, bro. You know what I'm saying? It was secretly internet bullying. You know what I'm saying? And I'm a bully buster. Because ain't nobody going to grip a m*** thing off me. You hear me? At all. And I ain't saying this to be disrespectful to now in person. But when you go to making remarks like that, you really got to stand on that. You know what I'm saying? People don't really be standing, you know what I'm saying, on the stuff they be talking, man.

25:55I'm telling you, bro. So when they got on the internet with that, that really was them. That wasn't Hoover.

26:00Adam22:Okay. That wasn't Hoover. They really was talking out of the side of their neck. Hoover wasn't saying that. And I got a gang of big homies that's from her directly that would tell you, and I can call them on the phone right now, and they'll tell you that they not on that type of time. That was Gumby. It was Gumby. Right, so it was our internet. You know, like the agent on The Matrix, you know, be like me. Gumby was running around sticking his hand in people's ass. They was being like Gumby. So are you somebody who's always kind of gone out of your way to form relationships with the Hoovers out here in L.A.

26:30Adam22:and everything since back in the day? Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we, L.A. homies have been in Fort Worth. Hoovers have come to our, they've been in our prison systems. We've never had a problem with the L.A. homies, and we don't have one with them to this day. Right. You know, because as you know, Gumby got on there and said, fuck for worth. I didn't get on there and say, fuck California. Right. Because that ain't the way. You know what I'm saying? And you don't let a fool set the example. You know, you're going to keep your composure. You know what I'm saying? Because, all right, the unique thing about how Gumby and them are when they talk about Hoover's out of state is like, I've had a lot of people I'm friends with who are Bloods for example right and in New York or in Atlanta they got nine trades sex money murder all this other shit right I never once heard a Blood be like they're doing this and that is wrong by our standards it seems like there's usually like a understanding that out of state things are going to be different they're going to have different different style different lingo different gang sign different everything and same thing with the 60s that I know there's people repping that down south or in Atlanta or whatever and I never heard a 6-0 out here be like they're cripping wrong in Atlanta which it seems like most people don't really take issue with that because they understand it's over there it's different if it's not disrespectful to the nature of the hood or whatever then usually people seem like they don't really take that much interest in it.

28:02But what's happening here is this Adam a lot of you gotta remember a lot of this start in Cali in the 70s, right? For us, it's the late 80s, all throughout the 90s. Information is not the same how it is now. Nobody can turn on a podcast and hear an OG or hear a person from New Hampshire, right? Talk about their experience or what went on in general. So now that information is here, you got these people that may be, what year we in, 2026? You got these kids that may be 26 years old, right? But in 2013, the Internet is here. Things are going on. They're being informed of what's proper and what's not proper.

28:40And based on their Internet experience, they want to be able to tell people what they know about Kiwi and Daimu and these words and these phrases and things that you bring up. But you got to you got to go back then when there's no cell phone. There's no communication where information is passed on by word. passed on and people are being able to, people are being misled. The whole setup is a misleading situation anyway. So then you'll get people that will come out here to get the correct information and try to weaponize the truth, like hit you with the truth stick. But that don't work. If that worked, when people come in the hood with a Bible, everybody will sign up to be with Jesus.

29:23Do you understand what I'm saying? Like just because you have the truth or you have the gospel doesn't mean you can apply by hitting somebody else.

29:29Adam22:It is tempting to use the religious metaphor because, for instance, Christianity, we could probably list off 50 different types of Christianity that are relatively popular in this country that all have different parts of their religion that really contradict each other. We just ran into the Mormons at the airport. And the Mormons and the Catholics probably got 20 things that they wouldn't be able to agree on. Different books. But there's nobody who's going around saying like, nah, this is the wrong version of Christianity or maybe they do have that conversation, but they just accept, all right, that's a different style.

30:01It's called ethnocentric, you know, and it's street ethnocentrics, you know. Yeah, it's a religion. You got people who zealous believe in an ideal, you know, and they feel like that's the right way, you know. But then I gave this to Gummy. I gave it to him. I said, when you stand in front of a six and you're on the top of it, it looks like a nine.

30:25Adam22:And he could not comprehend what you were trying to say. He could not comprehend that. He was trying to make the example of like, if I'm looking at a six to you, it looks like a nine. And Gumby's like, there ain't no sixes or nines in Hoover. He was mad as fuck. But I'm going to tell you what he pointed out. He said nobody from no other set has brought that to the internet and said people are doing wrong. It's kind of ironic that a Hoover would do that to other Hoovers, man. and then say everybody is against them, man. That's kind of taboo, wouldn't you say? No, that's called throwing rocks and hiding your hands.

31:04That's what he was doing. He was over there throwing rocks at us in Fort Worth and in Texas and hiding his hands.

31:11Adam22:But had you had conversations with Gumby or even known about him really before he went and did that interview with Real Tuna, as you call him? No, we were on the phone. Me and Gumby talked on the phone. Yeah, we only know him because of Real Tuna. We only know him because of Real Tuna. Remember he recorded my phone call when I checked Real Tuna about the whole CG and GC thing, and I told him, hey, man, you faking on this internet. Why are you going over there lying to them people, telling them that it's a wall over here? Because that's only going to make it a Texas and California thing. Right.

31:46And guess what that do to the media? It blows up.

31:49Adam22:Gives them something to talk about. Exactly. Turns into a lot of money. So he was that type of snake. He started a whole bunch of stuff, you know, that really wasn't even real. It's like, you know, you tell somebody that the sky is falling and they refuse to look up. But how do you know that Real Tune was doing this with diabolical intentions? Because a lot of times I'll interview somebody and then I'll end up interviewing their op and the op will talk shit about them. And to me, it's kind of like it puts me in a weird position, but it is like, well. He said it wasn't diabolical. But you're saying that he did it intentionally.

32:26He did this for a YouTube check to pay his rent. What you mean? Same reason women sell ass on the street.

32:31Adam22:But he could have just been doing interviews with a bunch of different reputable members. Once you've interviewed all the Hoovers in Texas, don't you think, oh shit, maybe we're going to do the ones in LA. If you're sitting at people's feet, man, you smelling they toes. Yeah, he said it everybody's feet. You got the good metaphor. Yeah, straight up. If you're sitting at people's feet, instead of looking them in they eyes, you hear me, as a man, then you really, that's a whole feminine position. You know, first of all, don't jump on this internet acting like you no damn journalist, speaking like you a feminine.

33:00Oh, I'ma come sit at your feet. I ain't never coming to sit at no grown ass man's feet. You hear me? I sit at a grown man's side, you hear me? We can shake hands, we can be friends. You hear me? We can box, we can punch, we can do whatever. But I ain't sitting at your feet. That's something they read in the Bible. But then you forgetting, man. And he's a P.E. teacher by profession.

33:22Adam22:On his day-to-day, really? No, I'm saying he went to school, graduated, and became a P.E. teacher. No, he passed that. What's that fool name? I mean, no disrespect to the dead, man. What's his name? Richard Simmons. Yeah. That's who Real Tuna is. Richard Simmons. Okay, well, we're going to start today, class. That's that scumbag ass. What the fuck? So I'm looking at what Real Tuna has been up to lately, and it's a lot of shout out to Cartel Bo. So we do still got a little bit of Hoover energy on here, but he's got OG Percy, who I understand that you're not a big fan of at this point, right? You know it.

34:01You know it. I don't f*** with him. Well, you know, he probably ain't never coming here.

34:04Adam22:You hear me? Yeah. He ain't never coming here. But wait, you said some bad things about Percy, man, yourself. I think I call him a crackhead, yeah. Why? Now, why you do that, man? I mean, I looked at him. I was like, damn. I'm gonna get out. For sure, this fool used to smoke crack. Yeah, I mean like, you gotta. Come on, man, now let me keep it. It's not even hate. I ain't gonna salt it down. I ain't gonna salt it down. I'm gonna go and clean it up, because you know I'm from Fort Worth. I gotta go back to Fort Worth. Yeah, Fort Worth's gonna be it, man. Now, look her. Percy, he got his own personal habits.

34:31Everybody got their own habits, you know what I'm saying? But as far as internet personality, he does a great job at that, man. He does a great job. He does a great job. He has good stories, he runs good content. Percy ain't no bad person. He just maybe got bad habits.

34:44Adam22:Well, I ain't had him on the show. Right. Yeah, he's welcome to pull up. And I would have done it last time I was in Texas if we had a little bit more time. And so do you have a relationship with Real Tuna? Because he manages Percy, too. No, I don't think I ever spoke to Real Tuna. Why? Yeah, I thought y 'all was journalists. Y 'all beef, too, like gang members? I mean, I would talk to him. It certainly seems like he deserves a rebuttal after this episode. Really? Yeah, you guys are slandering his name. Now everybody's going to think he's a K2 fiend. No, how about a boxing match after this episode?

35:12Adam22:I think I hung up the gloves. Yeah, because, I mean, you gave media personalities a bad name. You think he would do better? I don't know. Is he a big dude? I've seen him before, but I don't know. That man is a whole cream puff, boy. Oh, Lord. I'm telling you. I mean, when I look, I'm looking at his channel and I am seeing that he's running content about you. OG Kuta is banned from his hood. Okay, let's go. Members only video. OG Kuta is a mark. Yeah. So he's making some money off you still. Still. And guess what? He making some money off fake news. Okay. You see? Because I'm not a mark. Banned from your hood?

35:53Where's that coming from? That's him running some old content, running some shit that a little old young dude I get into in my neighborhood. You know, that's the type of shit that's real and it don't deserve to be on the Internet. Okay. So he takes some shit that don't deserve to be on the Internet and tries to run a spin a narrative on it to try to create some more shit, you know. But in reality, you know, here I am right now. Ain't no hair on my head been home, you see. So as far as the way that he ran it, he ran it like I was marked out and I wasn't marked out. I chose not to strap on the helmet.

36:24Adam22:Him making videos like that, though, makes me feel like you are probably trying to see him. Right. Facts. That's what I said about the box. So the thing is this. He managed Percy's career. He want Percy to be in the front. Shout out OG Percy. Shout out OG Percy. I made that observation that you seem like you probably smoked crack back in the day. But there's nothing wrong with that. These old as a lot of people used to smoke crack back in the day. No, no, no. But listen, a lot of people make it. Shut up, those people. Yeah, listen, you trying to clean it up. But a lot of people make it. I never had anything against it.

36:56I'm just calling it how I see it. So they made an observation about you about being, you know.

37:00Adam22:A cuck. Exactly. I mean, it is what it is. I got to wear that. Really? On God. On Hoover, though.

37:13Adam22:Damn. Damn. Damn. It was stupid. But listen, Percy ain't y 'all wet at. You sure to make Percy wet, but here's the thing. Percy, he never did it. He never did. I apologize. Listen, he is, real tunes is at him, right? Because he don't want Kunta to be a star on the internet. So he keep pursuing Kunta at odds. You understand what I'm saying? So he even went to go get Gumby and then he came back and integrated with him. you Percy. You see what I'm saying? So all this is not no diabolical scheme. This is a scam to pay his rent. And it does seem interesting to me that he very recently did a whole interview with Gumby and everything like that.

37:54Adam22:And then he's actually the reason why I knew that Gumby got arrested for aggravated stalking because he was the first one to the internet to do a video about it. That's how I learned about it. Do you sound like your work? Usually I'm not the one breaking the news. You break the news. I'm not saying in a bad way. I'm saying he's getting this strategy from somewhere. Well, listen, if somebody got arrested for something, that is fair to make a video about that, I think. No, but I'm saying if someone you work with, do you agree with the way he did Gumby? Yeah. I mean, I guess it's all right. See, you the OG, Adam.

38:29Adam22:These are your children. These are your internet kids, Adam. Keep the buck, Adam. Oh, yeah, I'll put it like this. Brick baby gets locked up. I don't want to be the first one to post it. But once somebody else posts it, how can I not react to it? How can I not be the one reacting to it? He was the first one. Because there is a chance. Sometimes people get locked up for a couple of weeks and we don't know about it. Just because nobody's out there aggressively searching their name in the police database to try to figure out who's locked up. We don't even know he's in jail until you say something.

38:56Adam22:Right. And Gumby is a well-known internet personality, but it's not like TMZ is going to be reporting on it. Correct. So he was the one who broke that story. He said, well, y 'all, I got some unfortunate news. Yeah, he got a whole Adam 22 mask. He put his whole Adam 22 mask and said, well, as a journalist, I'm here to report to you. All right, but I'm going to reiterate something that many, many people have said to me over the years. And also, can you adjust that camera? Because I look like that shit about to fall. But is that, you know, Sean Cotton, I recently did an interview with, and he's told me multiple times, Adam, you get away with a lot of shit that a black man would not be able to get away with.

39:38Adam22:And it does hit different because I'm looking at his content and thinking that I'm holding him to a standard. And then as soon as you guys ask me, like, would you have done that? I'm kind of like, well, shit. Yeah, I guess I would have. But it does hit different when it's a black guy from the community that you're talking about. Right. Right. Yeah. He wrong. We out of line. Because, Adam, how many times have you been to jail? Once. OK. And we see you can't fight. So did you get beat up when you was in there? No. OK. So if you went to jail and you stayed for a substantial amount of time and you had to defend.

40:0724 hours. You had to defend your bootiest maximus. Would you think twice about the experience when other people go? Maybe you were like, man, let me call. Let me check on them. Before I go reporting the news, let me see what's going on because I understand the experience can be pretty rough. And I know it's kids.

40:27Adam22:But I think the attitude of a media personality, a journalist, is that if it's true, we need to report on it. Leach. Now, if I am so empathetic to the situation that I also need to reach out to him and let him know, hey, hey, hey, are you okay? Do you need some money? Are your family okay? Et cetera. That's like a separate thing. Uh-oh. But the obligation of a media person. Have you? Yeah. I have not done that in his case. This is his problem. But somebody like Crip Max, somebody like Brick Baby, yes. Okay. But this is your problem. They're a lot closer to me. So extra, bro. So extra. This is your same problem.

41:01He didn't get locked up. He blew his hand off. He shot Crip Max some money.

41:03Adam22:Oh, yeah, many times. Okay. What about your brick baby too? So yeah, that's a plus. And then let me say this to you, man. I want to give you your flowers, man, while I'm here, man. That move you made about that racism shit with the Mexicans. You know what I'm saying? Not to pick no old scab. That was a real live journalist move. He spoke out. He said, no, when they was over there talking about black people in the... No, no. There was a LA media personality who basically was talking about blue face and he used the term African booty scratcher. And honestly, I didn't make that big a deal about it, but I said on the platform, like, damn, that's racist as fuck.

41:40Adam22:That's crazy that they're just letting him get away with that. And he turned it into Adams trying to create a race war. No, you dumb. I'm just calling you out for being a racist. Straight up. And that was real journalism right there, home. Yeah, you might as well call him the N-word if you really want to say something. Yeah, straight up. And then why is y 'all doing all that? And then it's been the Blacks Bags that y 'all been on this whole time while y 'all been over here. Let's keep it a buck. Y 'all moved into our communities. Now, y 'all eventually established y 'all owns. But when y 'all first got here, y 'all was living with black people.

42:11I even integrated into our culture. I integrated into their culture. I have a lot of respect for Mexico. But see, you got to understand that Texas is different. The Mexicans in Texas are different from the Mexicans in California. Why you say that? Because the Mexicans in California are racist.

42:27Adam22:Oh, really? Yeah, they are. I'm going to say that. When I heard that, I was on your side because I couldn't believe that these same people who have a lot of assimilations, a lot of our culture assimilated into their disposition. You can watch and look at any of these people that was on there and they had black culture assimilated into their disposition. I will say that I think that shit gets exaggerated. Are there Mexican gangs in L.A. that hate black people and say negative things about black people? Yes. It's a small, small, small minority. No, no, no. You go to a concert in LA, you're going to see Mexicans, blacks, and whites standing side by side.

43:02Adam22:And the amount of animosity is very small. I got to check this out. Have you ever been a black man in East Los Angeles? I haven't, but I talk to these guys all the time. And I feel like more often than not, listen, blacks and Mexicans, they'll have two different gangs run in the same neighborhood. And they coexist more often than not. 99 % of the time. He got away from the topic, though. Yeah. I'm just saying, because I hear people say that because Northern California, similar to Texas, what you're saying, where there's very little static. I'm just saying that when you did that, that was a real journalist move.

43:34Because there is a lot of backdoor racism going on, you know what I'm saying? Where people are using people's culture, but they ain't going to still speak and say something racial. How are you going to piggyback and assimilate into people's culture, but you still got racist remarks? That didn't sit well with me. So when you said that, I did a segment on that. I did do a segment on Unique Perspective about the whole idea. L.A. Ron, he was there. Cuz O 'Leak was there. We all sat and we had a real good, you know, open discussion about, you know, racism.

44:07Adam22:Okay. And it's really, racism shouldn't be, it shouldn't be inherited in nobody's race, you know. We got to stop that, you know. Black people got to stop it. White people got to stop it. Mexican people, because guess what? America is a molten pot, man. And we've been here, man. Everybody's been here. So why are we acting like we all not from the same place now? Right. And what I hear from people out here, too, is that the amount of beef between Mexican hoods and black hoods used to be a lot worse and has really kind of quieted down over the last 10 years, whatever. So I think that's a great thing.

44:41Adam22:You know, we should all be pushing towards things where there's less violence, less animosity. Well, when is the last time you had a black woman in a Mexican lowriders magazine? I have not ever probably looked at a Mexican lowrider magazine. But just go check. But I agree. They should make opportunities for our black queens. You better believe it. Because of bullshit. See, now he's bullshit. I would never look at something like that. You know, he's going to shoot. He can't be bullshit. He's going to shoot. But he never said at what point in your journalism, whatever you call it, I can't even spell it, but what stories are off topics?

45:19Like, that's what I'm saying. When does it come insensitive to a person you do business with, employee or coworker, to report their business even though that's part of your job? Like, do you think Harvey at TMZ will report on the dude next to him, break the news on him, you know? I'm just asking.

45:42Adam22:If he's newsworthy enough that people would care, sure. But, I mean, I also know about things. I know about dudes that I'm cool with who got the shit beat out of them in jail. Nobody ever talked about it. I didn't talk about it. Because you don't think you're newsworthy. No, it definitely would be newsworthy. but it's like and I know all kinds of shit about who shot who banged so and so's girl etc but if it comes to the internet we reacting to it but I don't want to be the one bringing it to the internet right so that's where you kind of draw the line but if I don't with him I might have to lay it all out there you gotta you gotta do the real tuna because I don't really view myself as a journalist I'm an influencer a media personality I'm a media person yeah yeah it's like so I'm waging my own little beefs on here sometimes so it's like Sometimes I will be the first one to break a story open because I just want to help shape the narrative about that person.

46:33So for you, if the story is powerful enough, you'll hang your mama dirty drawers outside.

46:42If the story is powerful enough, mama got to go.

46:47Adam22:Okay, like if my dad kills somebody. Right. I mean, I don't want people talking about my dad, but shit, if it's in the news, it's content. We gotta talk about it. Yeah, how could I avoid it? Yeah, you come from a hell of a culture. Is that a tip drop or a cross? Upstanding a cross. Yeah, you come from a hell of a culture. Oh, man, hold on. You come from a hell of a culture. You come from a hell of a culture, man. Ain't nothing wrong with it. That's my own culture, yeah. Nobody around me put me up to that. Why would you put the cross upside down? I'm an atheist. I'm opposed to all organized religion.

47:19Yeah. So you own some Karl Marx shit.

47:23Adam22:He's a socialist. Yeah, he's a socialist. I'm not really on board with that. That's government atheist. Yeah, he don't want to pay time. Listen, he don't want to pay time. He said, no, he said religion is the opium of the people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's real shit. So when you say that you don't believe in God, you know, that's rather strange that you would say that. But do you have any proof to disprove God? The burden of proof is on the one making the initial statement. See, now he went to court on you. remember they told me i'm just saying like you know i think the the burden of proof is on the person making the fantastical claim that there's a creator of the universe who's controlling all the things that are happening on this planet yeah so you give me you give me you give me your best illustration your best in in a nutshell of there being not a creator and i'll give you my best example that there is well i could tell you right now how you're more like me than you are uh you know okay i'll just say like this you're an atheist when it comes to every god besides the one you want to believe in throughout history there's been hundreds of different religions thousands of religions let me tell you this i just don't believe in all of them you just picked one that you were okay i don't pick and it just so happens to be the one that you were raised with look check this out let me tell you about me which is kind of like you being a cowboys fan or whatever right now let me tell you just because you were born around it no i was just so happens Is that the one you believe in?

48:49Adam22:No, I don't believe in none of that. It's crazy you're not a... I believe in source code. It's crazy you're not a Hindu. No, I believe in source code. It's almost like it's just because you didn't grow up around it. Do you know what source code is? Of like a website or an app or source code? Source code is your energy reading. You got seven chocards. Actually, you got 15 chocards within your body that permeate energy. Yeah, I got 15 choppers. That's right. You got 15 chakras. Oh, chakras. Sorry, sorry, sorry. 15 chakras, man. Your energy feels, bro. Look, man. There is... Look, look, man. And in your human body, right, is an illustration of the very galaxy itself that we see out here in the world right now.

49:24So for that to be the parallel of the parallelness of the universe and the human body, you hear me, shows a master's touch. It shows grand architectural design, you see. So I would never I would never try to get as far as religion is concerned. I don't believe in religion either. Oh, that's great. Okay? So we're not going to play that. Oh, he's this, he's that. I know that religion is opium, and our people have been drugged up on it. People really like opium. Yeah, they like opium. You know what I'm saying? They like religion. I don't like it. I see how it divides people. I see how it keep people sleep, you know, keep people tricked in food.

50:04So I believe that there is a high power. I believe in the high power. See, my God is the high power. It's not none of these images or none of this religious fanatic madness. I don't identify with none of that because all of it's straight jackets. You understand? For sure. So that, so when you say we all kind of parallel, you better believe it. Cause I don't believe in none of the tradition.

50:27Adam22:And I do feel like what you're saying is incredibly common these days that people say, I don't believe in this. I don't believe in heaven and hell. I don't believe in the Bible, but I believe there's a higher power, which even that and being considered religious and using that as your explanation of your religiousiosity is kind of a brand new invention. Like I asked my mom a while back, I said, when you were a kid, would you have been considered a Christian if you didn't believe in heaven and hell? And she laughed in my face. She said, of course not. But now I hear people say that shit all the time.

50:57Adam22:Right. The influence on religion is by secular culture. 100%. Religion has been dulled down by the outside realm, which is everything else. You got what you got called esoteric information and you got esoteric information. Now, esoterically, religion, you know what I'm saying, is the opium. But esoterically, religion is your inner connection to source code. You know, I recently had a Hoover member named Gorilla Hebrew tell me that he only believes in two things, God and Gumby. Well, you know, some of these brothers, man, they might be kind of dumb as a box of rocks. So don't you know what I'm saying?

51:36I don't know. I think he's on to something. I mean, if he believe in God and Gumby, that's his business. That ain't me. I don't believe in no man. You understand? I believe I'm the man I believe in. You know what I'm saying? The only man that I believe in is the man that I made myself into. You know what I'm saying? And I inspire every other man to believe in themselves as well. This is why I'm with CEO Ockley, because he believe in his manhood. He believe that he is a man. He believe in his self. You believe in yourself. If you didn't, you wouldn't be right here right now and the accomplishments and the things that you've done.

52:06You know, so when it come to just belief systems, Man, belief is personal to me. So I don't never try to force my belief on nobody. You see? My belief is personal.

52:17Adam22:And as far as religion, though, my attitude is that for 99 % of people out there, their religious beliefs are probably a net positive in their life. A lot of people kind of need to believe in a God in order to make it through the day. And I don't hold that against anybody. But then once in a while you got Osama bin Laden and he's flying planes in the buildings because of his religion. Yeah. Or getting his goons to do it. Whatever they say, you know, staged or whatever. You know how they say. Okay, so let's politic Unk. How do you get introduced to him and what's your thoughts on him? Well, Charmin man.

52:56Charmin cuz. Charmin. Charmin cuz, yeah. Charlatan. No, Charmin.

53:01Adam22:Charlatan, oh. As in Charmin. You know what a Charmin is? Isn't that? A medicine man. Okay. Sharman. Shaman. Shaman. But I say Sharman as in tissue paper. That's what I was thinking. The quicker picker upper, right? Quicker picker upper. Okay. Sharman. It's a shaman, but I'm calling him Sharman. Okay. Like he's a tissue paper. You could have been a rapper. You could have been away with words, yeah. This old guy, man. Now, I was on his bumper, man. Because he got out one time and I was listening to him. Because, you know, I kind of like, you know, I get it. I check people out to see how smart they are.

53:38So when I cut into six or seven, you know, everybody was steady telling me that high intelligence six or seven is. And I had the privilege of finding that out. But as he was setting it on the Internet, he wasn't showing his intelligence. He was using the old chaos and confusion bait and hook, you know, tactic. You know what I'm saying? He talking about he said some he said Moses had to sacrifice his son. And Moses did not sacrifice his son. It was Abraham who had to sacrifice his son. Right. I said, so if you're going to talk about some truth, bro, talk about the truth in its entirety. Don't just get intoxicated in your ideas and just go to spitting out misinformation.

54:13So, you know, I really was trying to like, you know, you can friendly troll somebody, you know what I'm saying? So I kind of friendly trolled him, you know what I'm saying? Got his attention. Eventually we ended up doing some content that was very successful.

54:26Adam22:And were you doing that knowing that he was a Hoover representative? Because we didn't know that until that day where he kind of violated Munchie B on here. Well, look. How did I set him up? You set him up with... Forexra? That's a different situation. Okay, number one, no. But number two... First Munchie B. The situation with Munchie B where he just out of the middle of nowhere decided to use the S word, which is probably the most offensive word you could use towards the blood. That didn't set him up. But that was the moment that we realized that he claimed to be a Hoover. And then you set him up with Forexra.

54:57The Forexra thing?

54:59Adam22:I'm going to be real. He got the greatest pass of all time because 4X did not slap him in the face. And he was so close. He went on the podcast and said that he was gay. But why would you... It's tough to say that about a gang member, especially one like him, a real general. I'll give it to him. He's a scary guy. Nub or not. There you go, man. You just don't quit, man. I'm just saying, even with one hand, he's still kind of a scary guy. You skipped that you set him up. No, I didn't set him up. You set up? I set up a podcast for him. He showed up to the podcast. I wasn't there. I was never supposed to be there.

55:32You set up a Hoover. What'd you say? He never even told Forex that he was a Hoover.

55:38Adam22:I don't think, I think Forex still doesn't know that he claims to be a Hoover. Yeah, so you ain't going to claim no setups. No, I never do setups. Now, Forex went in on him because he kept saying things that, you know, were considered, you know, sayings that are respectful to the homies, you know. Right. And, you know, 6 or 7-Up had it bad. So how did y 'all make up? Because then he went to put spells on you and curses on you. I don't believe on that. And then he just came back to the show. He's free to do whatever kind of voodoo he want to do. And it's charming because I'm telling you, boy. So he came back to the show, though, after casting spells on you.

56:15Adam22:You can pray for me. You can pray against me. You can put spells on me. You can do a voodoo doll of me. My belief is that none of this would ever do anything in a thousand years. Okay. So you can do whatever the fuck you want when it comes to that. Right. That's your shit. And also, you can make YouTube videos about me, and I'm probably not even going to watch them. I'm saying y 'all never had to talk about the four extra situation. No, we talked about it. The clip came out a week or two ago. No, this is the same play that y 'all ran that was ran on him. They ran it on me with Gumby. They set you up?

56:47Yeah. You didn't know that he was going to be there that day? On the Bob Report? No, I was coming there to do content with 607 Up. And you didn't know Gumby was going to be there? They called me at the last minute and said, Gumby's in Vegas. and he would like to sit down with you. Now, when we first got over there, it was all peaceful. And then to show you the narrative, what was the first question that was asked? Do you remember on that particular?

57:12Adam22:I'm not sure. I watched it last night. He went straight to the elephant in the room. What's the problem between HCG and GC? That's to show you that it was cooked. It beat your own people, huh? It was baked. Yeah, always the own people. It was cooked up, straight up. You see how I tried to talk about Fort Worth and where you're from. You were kind of like, nah, let's get to the real shit. Yeah, let's get to the real shit. Which I respect. Yeah, real spill. Yeah. Now, honestly. That episode was heated. You actually look very, very mature in that podcast because you are kind of not falling for the bait.

57:40And that was. You've seen it then. You've seen exactly what I've seen because at the end of the day, I still got to get back home to my family, man. You know what I'm saying? Number one.

57:48Adam22:Yeah. And then number two, what example would I set for crashing out? Yeah. That's not the example that I ever accepted or promoted in my community. I'm the guy that's always telling the little homies, hey, man, fix your pants, straighten your collar. You know what I'm saying? Look in front of you. You know what I'm saying? Move straight, you know, not crooked, you know. And I'm not that guy. So for me to go in and strap my helmet on now, you know, at any point at this point would be completely a contradiction to everything that I've done in my life's work. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not out here inspiring nobody to strap no damn helmet on.

58:23And I wasn't finna strap, even though he was like, He was inches away from being slapped on my mama. Really? Wow. Yeah, because the disrespect had got to a higher level, you know, because, you know, I was reading the whole time on all the energy, you know what I'm saying, and I didn't like it. But then at the same time, I was out of place, you know. And being out of place, what else can you do besides, you know what I'm saying, go along with the program?

58:47Adam22:But also, you have respect for California Hoovers. Absolutely. And he, at certain points, was kind of not maybe showing as much respect for what's going on in Texas. No, but look what he did. He came down here and hid in Texas, too. Hid? Yeah, that's what I said. He hid. When and why? Why you think he's on where he's at right now? Oh. Because he was over here. And then real tuna, you know, ain't no money in the room, was housing him. You know what I'm saying? Keeping him down there in Texas. They were roommates? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Didn't know that. Yeah, they was like that. Couchsurfing. You ever heard of couchsurfing?

59:21Yeah. Couchsurfing. Is that a custom in your culture? Actually, kind of, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He got surfed down to the funk. I mean, no, not to the funk, but down to the... You know how people move to LA and then they couch surf and they become famous? He moved to Texas, couch surf, and went to jail.

59:36Adam22:Wow. So he was doing his stalking in Texas? Uh-uh. No, I'm saying he went to jail, whatever. I don't know. I think after he... I don't know too much about the stalking. After he got popped with what he did, you know what I'm saying? And I ain't trying to get in his business, but I just noticed that he came over here in Texas and stayed for a great period of time. Yeah, homeless in Texas. That raised a question mark over my head because you speak so highly about where you're from. Why would you spend so much time in a place where you really don't like what's going on? Why would you not go back home where everybody believes and looks at the things the way you do?

1:00:12Why would you spend so much energy and time in a place where nobody is ever going to accept your time or your politics? So I began to think deeper at it. Like, what is he doing here?

1:00:23Adam22:But when he was staying in Texas, was he trying to be around gang members and being involved with all that? Or was he just kind of ducked off? Ducked off. OK. But he was playing like he was outside. You can't be outside. You a duck dean. You can't be outside. And then he pretty much became, on the Internet, he became the Internet Hoover Daddy to people. Pretty much. Yeah, it was people gravitating to a big homie that they did not know. Yeah. Do you understand what I'm saying? When he couldn't even come back to his hood. So it was just all you started. It was all just everybody want to be famous.

1:00:57I started it, but you platformed it.

1:00:59Adam22:But why do you think that he can't go back to his hood? I never heard that. Why was he in Texas? That's what I'm saying. Probably hiding from the law or something, right? He in jail in Vegas. I think he was staying in Vegas before for like a while. So which law is you hiding from? I don't know. I guess all of them. Cases out here, you know. Traditionally, Gumby's had some trouble with the law here and there. Well, you know, I ain't got no. He's been innocent for the most part. Oh, yeah? Yeah, for the most part. He's innocent now, as you say. Right. And that's known to be true. Okay. Well, I ain't got no smoke with him and his charges.

1:01:33I just want him to get his ass in that ring. You hear me? Really? Yeah. Yeah, we really, you know, if you set that up, you know, I will come back and I'll write a contract with you. I'll punch Gumby down as soon as he get out. And then if you promote it and you get some traction behind it, use some of that money to get him out, bro. You know what I'm saying? That's how much respect I got for Hoover.

1:01:55Adam22:I'm going to tap in with him and see what the situation is. Yeah. Yeah, and tell him. You know you're not going to. Do you think anybody else got access to his Instagram? Like if I hit him up on there, is somebody else going to respond to me? Yeah, you can hit him up. They making content on his channel. What's he saying? Checking and cheating. Yeah. Comment on his channel. Okay. Yeah. Gumby. Tell him to run the fake. There he is. Hoover Gumby. Yeah. Yo. Can I contact Gumby? Somebody got to have his phone. Somebody need to help him get out. Somebody need to do a GoFundMe for Gumby. Actually, I'm going to ask Gorilla Hebrew.

1:02:30Adam22:I bet he knows how to talk to him. Yeah. Go Gumby. Ain't that what they call it? Go somebody. Somebody better help him. Got the homie up under the jail cell. It ain't it, you know? Damn, all right. But from your perspective, is Gumby being locked up good for the overall health of the Hoover Nation? Maybe. Oof. Maybe. That's a strong statement. And I'm going to say that. You know why I say that? You think he's an agent of chaos? He's being an agent of chaos, yeah. And this, I feel like, because I gave him a warning. I was like, bro, you need to slow down, bro. You're moving too destructively. You know, we had our private little conversation.

1:03:06I was like, bro, we're going a little too fast on this. You know, we need to slow this down. You know, because we really was just supposed to be doing content, you know, and creating dialogue. Now, he took it to a war scenario, you know, and he posted himself as the, you know, opposing general, you know, in the war. And I, you know, assumed the position of a general myself as opposing to the madness that he was talking about. and we won the war cause ain't no war between HCG and GC ain't nobody died in Cali for that shit ain't nobody died in Texas for that shit and it ain't finna happen so he failed in that so this means he really need a change of heart

1:03:49Adam22:anything that can be talked out we should be encouraging that me and him we can't talk out we saw that on that podcast we ain't gonna do that talking no more and everybody was thinking that he marked me out cause I talked to him So now I'll show them that I'll punch him down, and he ain't got to talk after that because I know his lips going to be real swollen. Straight up. So we ain't got to talk after that if you don't want to. But you're going to respect me because, look, I'm on this. It's guns down and gloves up, you see. That's good, yeah. This is something that we got to start promoting in the community.

1:04:22This got to be like, especially in California, where the gang violence is really serious. We got to start teaching these little brothers, hey, man, You need to learn how to fight, not how to shoot, you see. But a lot of these brothers ain't been hunting either. Nobody ever took them hunting and showed them what the use of a gun is for.

1:04:41Adam22:We don't got a lot of area where we could hunt out here as opposed to Texas. It's probably a little bit more plausible. And that's why the relations need to improve where the Cali homies can come to Texas and hunt. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Bring a bunch of these young brothers up here from up here down there and let them hunt. You know what I'm saying? What are we going to hunt? Some wild boars or something? Wild boys, deers, all kinds of stuff down there to hunt, man. And you really learn the use of a weapon. I've never been hunting. Yeah. That sounds fun. Now, if a lot of people went hunting, a lot of the young men went hunting, they would understand the use of a weapon.

1:05:12And the use of a weapon is not to go out and kill your brother. It's actually the use of a weapon is to protect yourself, you see. And you protect yourself against wild game.

1:05:22Adam22:Yeah. You see. And when you kill something out in the wild, you understand the purpose of a gun. Right. I promise. And if a lot of these youngsters had that experience, they wouldn't be so quick to pick up no gun and kill nobody because they would understand that a gun means the end. It don't mean, oh, I did this and I'm that. Because see, a lot of people, they do stuff and then they don't pre-think it. They just act out of instinct. And then after the fact, now you're sitting here with a bun, out of control, last bun, you can't get out. You're going, you're facing, what, a capital charge? You know, you're facing all these different things that you did not consider, and all you really had to do was understand that you could fight.

1:06:05Adam22:Wait, so just to go back to it, though, with Unk, after that podcast, did you have anything to do with him afterwards, or were you kind of turned off to him? Man, I've been bailing Unk out. I'm going to keep it 100. Oh, yeah? See? You know, I'm going to pull the dirty drawers all the way on out. You know, this is the real deal. You f*** with OG Colter Cubs. Now, Unk came to Fort Worth and did content, right? Now, he was with them two young dudes, Grave Digger Quest and his brother, remember? They hijacked Unk House. Really? Guess what we called? We called you to help get rid of some squatters.

1:06:41Yeah, right. AKA drill rappers. Yeah, I came over there and got them little homies. You know, I didn't really do nothing to them because that, you know, I'm not going to ever turn my hand on no little homies. But I gave them some guidance about, you know, what they need to do and how they need to just. Sometimes you can't let the magician behind the curtain tell you that there is a such thing as the Wizard of Oz. And you know damn well it's no such thing as a place. They were just living in his house and he couldn't get rid of them? Man, they pirated his house, my dude. Oh, my God. I've never heard of such a thing.

1:07:12They went in there and they wouldn't leave. What the fuck? But they had straps too, though. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They was in there pirating. Quetz killed somebody. Punk, you're next. Punk was in there with some real nice things. Yeah, Unc. He got gangsta. Unc got up out of there. Unc would have got smoked. Yeah, he, nah, he got him, he, nah, he, they made him get up out of there. Wow. They made him get up out of there, and he had to call me to come over there.

1:07:36Adam22:Wait, they made Unc leave his own house. You better believe it. Oh, no, this is crazy, man. What the fuck? And I was the guy that went over there and said, hey, man, enough is enough. Y 'all get this man's house back. And then by that time, Unc say, man, no, I'm going to move. Y 'all can stay in there. What? Yeah. and they stayed in there and stayed in there and stayed in there after the fact of Unk left. Unk owes you his life then. Man, nah. He shouldn't be playing with you ever again. Unk, man, Unk weird. That's what I really don't, you know, I mean, I f*** with Unk. So don't get it. Everything I'm saying is a real story, you know, so I f*** with Unk.

1:08:13I ain't against Unk, you know what I'm saying? I don't say this to bash him, but Unk is really not gangster like that. He not, you know. I mean, he could get gangster, but he would first somebody else to be gangster first, you know, that's really like that. Damn. Yeah. So he's, come on over here, man. Come on over here, cut. And I came over there, you know. And I told them youngers late, man, y 'all come on out of there with that madness, man. Yeah. And they was like, big homie, you know, he done lied to us, you know, and you was right. He overselling us a fake dream. And see, Unk, man, he got to understand when you're going to reach out to these youngsters, man, you can't sell them no fake dream, bro.

1:08:49Right. You can't tell them that you know how to climb up the beanstalk. You hear me?

1:08:53Adam22:Yeah. And you ain't going to show them how to climb. Definitely. You can't keep climbing up and down the beanstalk and them sitting, oh, it's not your turn yet. Wait, I'm going to go up there again. You done went up the beanstalk 40 times. But then you got these little brothers over here waiting to do the same thing, and you won't even show them how to climb. Is it fair to say that Unks stopped you and Gumby fighting that day or not? Yeah, he did. He did sit between you at one point. No, because it was there. They knew it. But it really wasn't, you know, I mean, they did the right thing. Because me and Gumby, you know, it's a good thing we didn't fight.

1:09:25Because that probably would have kicked the wall off right there.

1:09:27Adam22:That would have been bad. That probably would have went on and kicked the wall off real life. We'd have scratched, and it would probably turn into some bloodshed. So at the end of the day, I'm glad we didn't fight then. So here we are now, at a more professional level, we can come back and say, well, hey, let's fight and make some money off of it. You know what I'm saying? some money that'll help you get your dumb crash dummy ass out of jail. See, I'm the nigga over here with the safety helmet on and he's the dumb nigga over there with the football helmet on. See, I'm over here avoiding obstacles and shit that can fall on top of your head.

1:10:01This fool diving face first into some shit that'll kill your dad. So here I am as a real hoover reaching my hand down to him like, homie, come on out of there. You can't stand out there and that stupid shit because you're supposed to be a spokesman for Hoover. So what we're going to do, we're going to keep teaching the generation, the next generation to crash out?

1:10:22Adam22:Yeah. Or we're going to start telling them, hey, man, we got to be men and let's get to a bag. Let's always create an alternative where it's successful and we win. No, I respect that for sure. But so would you say that 607 Unc is still a valid Hoover from your perspective or was all these experiences kind of sour you on them? You hear me call them Sharmin because I don't know what the thing is, man. That boo done said about 13 cents. He'll say five. On GDVD Vice Lord. Yeah, right. Come on, gang. On GDVD. I mean, you know, no disrespect to my homeboys and vice lords, none of the gangs and disciples.

1:10:53I know a lot of them guys. But, yeah, Unk, man, you don't know what he is. He told me personally that he was who. I will say that.

1:11:02Adam22:He does have a tattoo, don't I? Yeah, he said that. He personally told me that. Is he allowed to do interviews up here with other guests other than you? I mean, if he wanted to, I would be open to having the conversation with him. Okay, but right now it's kind of he don't know yet. I mean, he did, after we did that one interview, he kind of pitched me on an idea of him doing a lot more content on here. I'm not 100 % sure how that would work. He was talking about doing a weekly podcast. I don't know if the audience has the appetite for that. Yeah, right. You know, I'm thinking maybe, you know, he's definitely down to do more content with him, but weekly is a lot.

1:11:37Adam22:You're going to get marked out. Is he going to have some of the other people that work up here? Like, is he away from that? Ask this. Definitely. Because of his situations. Definitely he needs to be supervised if he's going to be anywhere near Munchie B. Let's say that. Or Munchie B's homies, specifically. That could be weird. That could be weird. That could definitely get strange. So, I don't know. But, okay. What about, I mentioned that Krip Mack was here the other day. He's got that tattoo on his forehead. Uh-oh. Obviously, that forehead tattoo is meant for his enemies within Los Angeles. Something tells me that you probably feel a way about it, too.

1:12:15Adam22:I do. And I'm going to call this out to the forefront. Hey, I'm a real hoover. So I ain't going to never be cool with nobody that got a hoover killer on their forehead. Now, I'm not his enemy. You hear me? But you saying, by you having my said on your name with a slur against it talking about you, a killer hoover? No, I'm not cool with that. That could actually get you punched down. Right. I mean, you know, that could get you beat up real life. And now I'm not ducking no face either. You know what I'm saying? So when you got that type of tattoo, you got to stand on that. Yeah. So I suck cuz out for having that tattoo.

1:12:52Oh, shit. Straight up. Like, don't do that. Don't ever come around me with no shit. Like, because I ain't, I don't even know, I don't even know if he's set. You see what I'm saying? But see, in my state, we don't, the Crips ain't enemies to each other. So I can't relate to him for having that on his forehead. You understand? Because I would never have 6-0 killer on my forehead. You see what I'm saying? I would never have 4-Tray killer on my forehead. Because we don't do that in Texas. You see what I'm saying? So how they doing it down here, we don't understand that. But it's ultimate disrespect, though.

1:13:22It's ultimate disrespect for a person to do that. I mean, I would advise him, he probably want to do something about that. Because, I mean, if you're going to be an international icon, homie, you might want to take that dumb shit up off your forehead, homie, because you got yourself looking real goofy. Now you got yourself looking goofy, bro, because there are people who are not from California that are Hoover and we never did nothing to you, Crip Mac. So why would you have someone on your head to say you're going to kill us? How are you going to turn us into your enemies and you ain't even never met us?

1:13:52Adam22:That is the weird thing is like knowing that if I were to go out of state with Crip Mac, that somebody could want to do something to him that has never seen him before, that doesn't have anything to do with him. but just because of that tattoo it could be if he sees the wrong guy. Coming to Texas. Coming to Texas. Texas would be an example. You opened up the question and the tattoo don't come with a description. You gave a description like it's got a caution warning on the side of it like a cigarette. You gave it a whole description saying that it means his enemies from here. The tattoo don't have no description on it.

1:14:27No. And it don't have no California enemies. You just said Hoover. You done got on California, rode on the side of that Hoover, and it's not just Hoovers from California. So when you put that type of shit on the airwaves, homie, you got to be ready to work that. Like, hey, on some real inside shit, yeah, you know, friendly fade. Friendly fade. No, friendly fade. Really. Like, we can get up. Did he talk about that? Did he have some fades over his tattoo in jail?

1:14:56Adam22:Not necessarily over the tattoo, but he said he definitely had some fades, yeah. Yeah. What you mean not over the tattoo? I don't know if it was about that, but he didn't specify. Because I think they segregate him. They segregate you in California based off your connection to the city. He was in Cali or the Feds? He was in federal jail for two years, and then he did a couple weeks in L.A. County Jail for a separate probation violation. Oh, they separate him in L.A. I don't know exactly. But, I mean, for sure, like, when he talks about it, he fought Jap 5 back in the day, and he admitted that he lost that fight.

1:15:26Adam22:You know, that's a Hoover, so he definitely spent some time around Hoover. Yeah, you better believe him. Yeah. And you know it. Hoobers ain't going for that tattoo. For sure. Not that. Yeah. And then, you know, I ain't. You don't even need the tattoo. You just got to be from wherever you're from that they don't get along with it. That ain't it. Right. But the tattoo is a constant reminder. A constant reminder. Yeah. And ain't no man say, bro, my people are fucked up about that tattoo. I'm talking about Texas is fucked up about that tattoo. Yeah. Crip Mac, you know what I'm saying, as a person, I don't know.

1:15:56But all I see is that tattoo. you know I've never met him but the first thing that make me like on some some plex shit with him it's like so you just dry gonna say like we hoes or something no homie ain't no hoes

1:16:10Adam22:in Hoover the crazy thing is so big deal is T-Rell's brother who's from out here he's a Hoover and at one point while Crip Mat was locked up I saw big deal posting memes on his Instagram story using clips of Crip Back and that kind of says a lot about the fact that Crip Mac has been out here for so long that even a real Hoover member can kind of be joking about using Crip Mac as a comedian or a meme right there because he is such a funny, ridiculous, over-the-top character that even his direct enemies could be having to chuckle and not necessarily just immediately thinking like, ah, the forehead tattoo I hate him, I hate him, I hate him, you know so that was kind of shocking to me, I guess that's what comes with him having been out here on the scene for five plus years on the internet.

1:16:59Basically people getting familiar with it. I'm saying it's a joke.

1:17:03Adam22:Yeah, but I mean Crip Mac definitely probably wouldn't appreciate it. Is the tattoo real though? Oh, I mean I've been around a hundred times. I'm saying do he represent that? Oh, I don't know. Maybe it's because of that. Maybe he don't represent that. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe it's a metaphor. I'm speaking on why you're saying they sharing it. Maybe they realize it's a gimmick, maybe. If they saw him as that, they might not be joking around about it. Straight up. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Straight up. Did you pay for the tattoo? Absolutely not. No, when I met him, he had it. Oh, okay.

1:17:41Yeah. I've been having that tattoo for a long time. When I first came across him on the internet, I seen that tattoo. Oh, okay. I mean. So he came to the internet with it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he came to the internet with it? He came to the internet with that tattoo. Okay, what is real?

1:17:55Adam22:When I first interviewed him, I almost felt bad because I was like, bro, him getting this much attention is not gonna be good. You're gonna get it. Like, you know it. You ask for the worst of the worst. I thought we were gonna be hearing a tragic story a week later. Right. Well, look, this is my thing, man, with Crip Mac. No disrespect, we could run a fight of Friennie. Like, I could show him, you know what I'm saying, on some Texas shit. Hey, nah, we don't do that. You know what I'm saying? and then we can just set it up to where we both win. So how do you feel when people from out here get offended by the idea that the Hoovers in Texas don't beef with the neighborhoods of the 60s out there or whatever?

1:18:35Adam22:They feel like y 'all should have beef with every gang, regardless of the fact that they are really not associated with the 60s out here in any way besides just the name. Okay, well, look, this is what you got to understand about that. There is a difference between a gang banger and a gang member. Okay. When you gang banging, this is what California is doing. In Texas, we used to gang bang. You know, we don't do that no more. Really? We've seen that that programming was dysfunctional. And it was basically making us in the state look goofy, and it was making the community as well look goofy. So a lot of that got played out.

1:19:17Ain't no banging. and ain't no Crip on Crips, ain't no none of that going on in Texas. And you might have here and there little fallouts, but ain't no all-out fallout war on some generational shit going on or genocidal shit going on in Texas. And we're going to keep it that way. You know what I'm saying? The only way we can keep it that way is by staying with the politics that we have. See, if we adapt other people's politics, this is the problem that I have with a lot of people. You can't take another time zone and apply to another time zone. When we right here in California, we two hours behind Texas, right?

1:19:54So why would you take that time zone and try to put it in a time zone that it don't fit? California time zone don't fit in Texas time zone. It's two different times, you see. And then there's always a level of respect. Like, even when you get to the federal level, right, you got members from ACG, Texas, in federal prison with members from ACG, right? And it's a mutual respect. So if they in prison where they done lost everything and where it's a war at all times and they get along, what are we doing on the Internet? Yeah. Yeah, it's all hype at that point.

1:20:30Adam22:Because I stay interviewing people who get out of doing a long time in prison. They're 30 years old, 40 years old. And they're basically like, you know, they feel like they kind of wasted their youth because they went and got locked up at 16, 17, 18 years old and had to do 10, 20 years over some shit that as soon as they get locked up. Now you're sharing the phone with a guy who's supposed to be your enemy. You're cellmates with them. You start to realize, God damn, they're just people like me. What a waste of time. So in Texas, that would kind of diffuse things. It kind of diffused it here, but the population of gangs and by being a birth is a little bit more bigger.

1:21:09So every generation you got tiny loke, teeny loke, disloke. It's continued on. So in Texas, what happens is we go to war throughout the 90s. And the mistake, I say mistake, is what happened is they locked us all up. They put us all in jail. We had George W. Bush, the son from 1991 all the way to 2008. Like that's how long he's been governing over the state of Texas. Right. Through all the stuff, you know, white people don't like Bush. You can't even bring up his name. Right. Right. We've been having his governorship since 1991 all the way to what, 2008. So in doing that, he locked us all up and he put us in prison together to where we had to get along with each other.

1:21:53because in prison it becomes racial or it becomes city. So the person that you were beefing with in Fort Worth, you realize you need him to stand with you against these other cities or against these other races. So people ask, how do you end gang violence? Or how do you end conflict between this block versus that block? Put them together.

1:22:13Adam22:Yeah. Yeah. Once you put them together inside the system, it diffuses it for that generation. But Texas is a red state. Like, they're hard on crime. That's what it's all about, right? Ain't no hard on crime. What you mean? Our state's hard on crime. I mean, California is sort of famously soft on crime. No, I don't know what you're talking about. I mean, that's the... For white people. Because Gavin Newsom has made it much harder to keep people in prison for 20 years. That's a narrative. Yeah, that's a narrative. It's easy to let people out after they did 20 years. But that changed a lot of these laws.

1:22:43Adam22:Even yesterday, I was interviewing a baby shooter from Avalon Crib, and he's talking about how the reason why he's not doing 30 years and he only did 11 years was because of a lot of the changes to the laws that were put down by people like George Gascon. Right. It took them 30 years to change it. And what I'm saying is that doesn't make you lesser on crime. That's you trying to right it wrong. Right. Right. Yeah. But I mean, it's also a vibe. When you're in Florida or Texas, you can really feel it. These cops are way more down to lock your ass up than out here. Out here, you have a conversation with the cops.

1:23:16Adam22:You can tell that the program that they've given them is a little bit more intent on being understanding. Whereas down South, cops are not f***ing around. You're going to go to jail. I mean, you're going to go to jail, period. But I'm saying that to say this. Them locking us up and putting us together. Same way here in California where they start creating, people tell you the jail stories or them coming together or them having to fight against the Mexicans. Or here they had to fight against the white people. Like being in prison, being in situations where you had to depend on people that you knew of or knew changes the scenario for us.

1:23:51That was a secret solution in the middle of the chaos. And that will kind of neutralize back to your question on why Roland Sisses and Hoovers don't have the immortal beef that they have out here in California.

1:24:02Adam22:Okay, that makes sense. What about probably one of the most famous Texas Hoover members that was on this podcast, Tony Wilrich? Stop it, man. Oh, man. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't know. I don't know. I'm a white boy. I don't know. No. The one you did the video with? No, no, no. The one you did the video with? Yeah, I'm finna get him. The one you did the video with? Okay, now we going down. Oh, those are his orange sunglasses right there. Don't worry about it. Hey, and you know what them is? Them is women's glasses, man. Oh, yeah. Them is women's glasses. Now, how did you take that? That's another one you platformed.

1:24:38Adam22:Yeah, yeah. Why would you platform such a surity, man? We had the Crip Mac and Brick Baby. Isn't that the craziest thing you ever heard? No. Tony Wilworth's got to be the lowest. It is questions. It got to be lowest and lower than anybody. He, all we heard was like, oh, this guy's a gay Crip. He comes in to do the interview. He goes in the bathroom, comes out with an all-orange fit on. Okay. Brick Baby and Crip Mac are looking at him like, what the? And they did that to Smear Hoover, fam. And I think that's what a bullshit. No. We did not know that he was saying he was a Hoover. Which I did. No, you got to let me speak on that.

1:25:13Okay. What that was, man, don't never on guard, man. Long as they you are a good guy, white man, a journalist, don't bring no weirdo in here talking about no crip, nothing. Because see, the law is this. If you are like that, you are not a crip anymore. So that's what made him false for saying that. Everybody go by that rule. You don't get to switch your hips and throw up no set. You don't get to drop your hand and hit up the seat. now. He's hitting you up then. It's oops upside your head. That's the law in Texas. I don't know what the law here is. So when y 'all, okay, so if that's why I couldn't get it, why y 'all would put this dude on and he coming from Fort Worth with that BS.

1:25:57Adam22:Yeah. Nah, man, that dude was not a crip. I understand why people would have a hard time believing that that was not a coordinated thing. That was fake, bro. That was fake news. No, y 'all definitely coordinated. That was fake news, bro. Look at me. You can ask Brick Baby and Crip Mac. Yeah, and they got out with it because ain't none of them Hoovers. First of all. But they agreed to do a podcast with a gay Crip. And guess what? He just so happens to be a Hoover. We had no idea. Come on, man. And he had no idea that Brick Baby or Crip Mac would be in any way not allowed to read. That's how y 'all had an idea.

1:26:36Because the mere fact that you posted them on your page, and you knew that he was coming out of Fort Worth, you had an idea, Adam. I don't know. You had an idea, Adam. I don't know. I wasn't there that day. You master puppeteer. I had no idea. You a master puppeteer.

1:26:51Adam22:You can ask Tony Willard. The shit you got to admit to now, I'm asking this. I wish. Listen, that is so diabolical that I would have never had the balls to try to do that. Let me say that. Let me say this. No disrespect to that dude, man. I don't know him. Never spoke to him. Never met him. Total disrespect. I think he stopped this. I don't know the scumbag. Total disrespect to him. But he is not from Hoover. I will say that on the record because it's not from Hoover. I can't say that much. I don't know the character. Don't want to know him. Don't with him because we don't around like that. Total disrespect.

1:27:22Total disrespect to Hoover for that guy coming up here talking about he's something that he know damn well he not. I got a better question. Why you didn't cross him over into the porn industry? I think his whole narrative would have been great.

1:27:34Adam22:I'm not associated with the gay porn industry. We supposed to be associated with it. You going to put the crib in? I'm not a gay member. I just interviewed. Yeah, but you porn is with gay. So why? It seemed like you would go. Straight porn and gay porn is like, you know, California and Antarctica. There are different sides of the planet. We don't know what they're doing. They don't know what we're doing. So straight members and them people are two different sides of the planet. No, we got gay bitches. Okay. No, we're talking about. So you know the difference. So you know the difference. I'm talking about the gay dudes.

1:28:09Adam22:I don't know. They got their own convention. They got their own award show. They got their own famous. I can't name one of their stars. Okay, well, look at it like this. I heard they make a lot more money. You made a big distinction between the difference between porn and gay porn, right? Okay. I'm just telling you, culturally, it's different. That same difference can be said for the funny bunnies. You hear me? The funny bunnies and Crippy. Okay. Okay? It's the same analogy. Just like you said, that's Antarctica. to Crippen. That is an article to Crippen. We don't do that. We don't push that narrative over here.

1:28:45I think he was a straight segue into that field for you. You've been managing him. Well, I fumbled it because I did not use this as an opportunity.

1:28:55Adam22:Why did you fumble? Why did you fumble? It's just not really a world I really want to get into. Okay. So don't put him in our world. Why you put him in our world? I didn't put him in. He's from a neighborhood that claims to be that. He told us he is from a Hoover Crip neighborhood. Uh-uh, no, he's not. That's what he said. Hey, man. But if you wouldn't push it for yourself, why would you let him get up here and push it against him? Who am I to tell him that he's not from where he says he's from? Okay. But you would say you not from gay porn, though. That's not my—hey, in my world, I'm only banging heterosexual.

1:29:25Okay, I get that. So why would you think that Crips ain't only banging heterosexual over here?

1:29:32Adam22:Hey, what do you mean? That was a learning process for me. That was how I found out that in Texas that that is not okay. Now, you don't think you owe Hoover an apology for even putting that clown up here? Because, hey, that's the— But who am I to tell him that he can't tell us what gang he's from? Well, I got a better question. Do you believe him now? Now that the train has ended? Yeah. Do I believe that he's from that neighborhood originally? Do you believe the antics now that he was talking about? You know, I did hear from people like Sean Cotton that this is a dude who, for years and years, had been doing really kind of whatever he could to go viral.

1:30:04Adam22:Yeah. And that the whole gay gang member thing actually worked for him. People actually paid attention to that. Yeah. So in retrospect, I do look at it a little bit more suspiciously. Like, okay, now I understand. This was a, you can imagine it works because we all know who he is. As y 'all say in this field, it was a play. I believe it probably was. I believe it was from that neighborhood. Now that y 'all ran a play. I mean, listen, but that's baby. Listen, And Krip Mac. Them niggas was in on the plate. Krip Mac. They ran the plate fast, too. He got the no jumper fast. Krip Mac sat across from him.

1:30:38What the hell? Hold on. No, time out. Krip Mac gave him a Corrito. Okay. What the hell is that? A burrito with a C. Oh, that's true.

1:30:45Adam22:He handed him a burrito. A Corrito. Which is not something that nobody ever thought that Krip Mac would sit down with a guy claiming to be a Hoover or a homosexual. Because he liked it. Yeah, y 'all ran the plate. I think peace was obtained through that. No, that was a secret, nasty, filthy smear campaign. I understand why it looks like that. You see. But you could put me, Brick Baby, Crip Mag, and Tony Woolrich all on the lie detector, and we will all pass with flying colors. No. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Is there anything I could do to make you believe it? Well, you just explained to me how it was cool for y 'all to get this guy to come up here, and he's saying that he's from Fort Worth.

1:31:27and that he's a whore.

1:31:28Adam22:Now, we did know... We knew we were doing an episode with a gay crip. What other gay crips y 'all did it with? Where is the gay crips in California? I don't know. There ain't no gay crips in California? There's been a lot of people exposed for zesty shit over the years. But they don't really do podcasts after. They just kind of hide. They brought this weird ass shit out on Fuckworth. Knowing damn well that man ain't no damn crip at all. You knew it was a play. because you was hating on OG Percy and you be hating on Texas, period, man. OG Percy's not from Hoover, is he? You was hating on OG. Oh, see, I'm out the loop.

1:32:05Adam22:That's why y 'all brought him up here. Y 'all was hating on Percy, man. I don't even think Percy's name came up in that episode. No, because see, they ran a play on you then. I'm going to tell you what they did. They used you because, see, before coming to your station, they was already into it with Percy behind a picture that he took with the guy. That's a compelling narrative, though. Brick Baby is conniving enough that maybe he figure this is a way that I'm going to get at the hoover. I'm going to dig out. He's going to dig his way right on down. Perhaps Brick Baby pulled a little move on me there.

1:32:38Use the platform as a way to... Okay, so who brought you this weirdo guy? This masquerading guy? Because y 'all posted him on y 'all page. Who brought him to you?

1:32:52Adam22:I don't know, honestly. Somebody hit me up. I'm sure. You don't know? I don't know how I initially got introduced to him. So y 'all, y 'all with the narrative. Three years ago. They call you, hey man, we got a gay scumbag. A gay scumbag. Why do you get into it with all the entertainers in Texas? What's the problem with you in Texas and entertainers? Who else? Me and Percy had a little bag and forth. You ain't no Percy. Percy cloud chasing. You bring it. No, you cloud chasing Percy. I'm a person cloud chasing. Because I said that he looked like he used to be a smoker. You cloud chasing Percy. Then you brought up the gay thing.

1:33:30Then you hating on the homie Go Yeo.

1:33:32Adam22:No, Go Yeo is my friend. I was just talking to him. Man, you hating on Go Yeo. No, I get into it with Sauce Walker if you want to be accurate. I could call Go Yeo right now. He's cool. Call Go Yeo. Why you getting into it with Sauce? No, tell him call Go Yeo. Because Sauce is a fraud, but that's okay. And you're getting out. He making Texas look bad. Adam, you the fraud. My homie ain't no fraud. No, no, he's a weirdo. No. Now listen. Uh-oh. I gotta find a... Why? No, but to be fair, I always make cool with Sauce. Sauce decided he wanted me to be his on. But you hating on everybody. Man, you hating on Sauce because he got more money than you.

1:34:07Do you seriously believe that? You are hating on Sauce. Shake on that if you really believe that.

1:34:11Adam22:What up? Ah! You the police? You don't believe the words coming out of your mouth. You the police, man. You don't believe the words coming out of your mouth. What you mean? There's no way. Why are you hating on... On what planet? You hating on them because they want to do a podcast with you? No, I only started hating on him. He wanted to be opposite me. But Go Yayo did business with you. But when did I ever hate on Go Yayo? You just hated on him. You got a whole thing talking about whatever you did with Sean Cotton, man. Go Yayo did this. Oh, man. How are we not going to talk about that? What you mean?

1:34:41Come on, man. Why would you do that? You don't get your ass off. Now, listen. Now, listen. I'm going to get on. I'm going to get on. Don't start on my boy Go Yayo. That's my boy, but he did that. Hey, man, you have some things going on between you and your woman or whatever. And he shared something with his woman about something he had going on. And I got nothing against you, but how are we not going to talk about that? What you mean? But you just did. You walked around his hood. You ain't talk about that. When you was in the murder. No, I asked him about it. When you was in the murder, you ain't talk about that.

1:35:08But that came out after we did that interview. Yeah, man. You be hating on me. But that ain't it. You going to do him like that? Yeah, you be hating on Texas. I'm a journalist. How are we not going to talk about that? Not that. Bro, he shared a picture with his girl, bro. He shared a picture with his girl. You can tell me if I get Lena phone, you ain't got no... Butthole pics? No. You got some dildo pics in there. No! What the fuck are you talking about? You got some dildo pics in there. That's Antarctica, I'm telling you. You got some dildo pics in there. That's what they do in Antarctica. You got some dildo pics in there, so what I'm saying is that, bro.

1:35:43Never that. He was with his girl, bro. And I support him doing whatever kind of zesty shit he wanted to do, but we're going to talk about it on the podcast. But he was his girl, bro. So if Lena licking your ass and y 'all got pictures of that, that's y 'all business, bro. You can see that on the internet. I can show you that right now. Oh, you zesty. No, I got my ass licked. Now, okay, he didn't get me, bro. And I respect that. So why are we making it a topic of discussion like that? He did something with his girl

1:36:07Adam22:and she exposed it, bro. Can you seriously imagine a world in which Goyeo went viral for showing his booty hole? No, his girl exposing that. But that's what I'm saying. It was viral. However, it got out. It's like Lena showing a picture of you with a dildo, bro. Yeah. How would you feel? And if that came out, you don't think Rural Tunes is going to run content about it for the next couple of weeks? If it came out. If that did come out, it would be impossible. But it never happened. Yeah. Yeah. If what? If that existed, you're going to talk about it. You're going to talk about it. You're going to talk about it.

1:36:41Adam22:Somebody's going to make a whole YouTube channel about Adam22 Gap 10. Hold on. And I will not hold it against any of you. Sean Cotton, academics, Vlad, they all going to run content about it, and I won't hold it against them because if it's in the public domain, then of course you're going to talk about it. We're not holding against you, but you use your beef with Sauce Walker to beef with Percy, to beef with Go Yego. Those are separate events. But they roll into one, bro. I was watching with Sauce Walker right now. He just got to stop frowning. No, but he came up here to do business with you.

1:37:09Sauce Walker is mad because you don't know how to do business with people that know how to do business. What are you talking about?

1:37:15Adam22:I tried to pay him to do an interview. He didn't want to do it. He felt like you ain't want to pay him enough, bro. Oh, that's cool. And then you got mad. He's overvaluing himself. Then you got mad about him, bro. I mean, you got mad at him. How the f*** do you call somebody on Instagram? Maybe he got a... Why do you be hating on Texas, bro? That is our question. No, I love Texas. I lived in Texas for a few months. Okay. What does that mean? It's a great place. I got nothing against it. What part of Texas you living in? Austin. 2009. You fruity. Never. Yeah. He comes from... Yeah, you fruity. He in Austin.

1:37:45Adam22:Shout out to the homies in Austin. I f***ing bitches with other dudes and their dick is right there. I somehow grab this car. I grab this car. I don't do it. We don't do that, man. We show no dough, man. I don't want nothing to do. Stop. No ammo. Stop. No sword fighting. That's what I'm saying. No sword fighting, bro. No sword fighting. We 6-6s, bro. I would never do that. No sword fights, bro. No sword fighting, bro. Don't do sword fighting. Yeah, no sword fighting, bro. All right, here we go. Cut him. Hold up. Cut him. You hear me trying to tell us the truth, and we don't want to hear it. Yo, pick up the FaceTime.

1:38:29Adam22:You're never going to believe who I'm with.

1:38:35Who that? Go Yayo. Yayo, this nigga over here hating on you, Yayo. Never. Never. I'm not. I've never hated on him. I'm CEO Hockeyman here. Yeah, yo, this nigga Adam hating on you, cuz. I'm over here checking this nigga, man. Yeah, he be hating on Texas, nigga. Yeah, he getting ran through. Yeah, yo, baby. He getting ran through over here. Bro, they accusing me of being zesty. They're accusing me of hating on you. They saying all kinds of crazy shit. He trying to talk about them pictures. Talk about them dildo pictures. They acting like Sauce Walker's a factor. Let's talk about them dildo pictures Lena got in on your phone with you.

1:39:07It never happens. Yeah, let's talk about that. You be hating on Texas, man. You be hating on Texas, bro. He know what he's saying. Yeah, we riding down on him, yeah, yo. What are you saying? What's up, man? What's up, boy? We in the building. Yeah, yo, you know who this is, boy. What's up, my baby? What's up, man? What's good, nigga? Yeah, we running day room on Adam. Nigga, we got him boxed in. He calling you to come out the cell, cuz.

1:39:31Adam22:I told him, I told him, hey, if a picture leaks of Go Yeo, it don't matter if we friends, we got to talk about it. Now, that. Nigga, that's between him and his woman. You got different standards for Texas. Stay out nigga business. This is just like every other state. We're going to talk about it. That's what you've never been. Stay out nigga business. It's just hell. That's a heat. Nah, you stay out nigga business because if we going lean a phone, it's you in there with some dildoes. You dreaming. You street dreaming. It don't exist. I ain't doing no dreaming. You street dreaming. You fantasizing.

1:40:01It ain't out there. You ain't got the motherfuckers in there. And you in there with some black dildoes. I got a 42-year record of heterosexuality.

1:40:09Adam22:And I don't think there's nothing gay about him showing his butthole. It is what it is. I think he got a hemorrhoid. Hey, man, get off the phone with this sucker, man. He was saying, yo, take off the hemorrhoid. Get off the phone with this sucker, man. We got him picked up. Never. He calling you because we smashing him, cuh. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. We smashing him over here, yo. They trying to rewrite history. This is my boy right here. We was eating chicken and waffles together. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. Whatever, guy. Hey, y 'all got them. What I do want to see is one Adam. Y 'all cut my asshole off y 'all platform, man.

1:40:38Straight up.

1:40:39Adam22:Straight up. You got to stop flashing it. Your homeboy brought your shit up, my nigga. Adam brought it up. We just answered why was he talking. You know that sound about white, man. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. But look, on some real shit, though. Nah, Adam, you straight. I don't give a fuck about that shit. But hey, my niggas out there from the city, y 'all boys doing something good. And stay on them niggas' necks. Absolutely. Stay on that nigga Gumby neck. Absolutely. Fake media. I know, hand it up. It's gangsta and murder, boy. We been gangsta and murder for 60 years. So you a Hoover lover? Yeah, gangsta and real truth.

1:41:16You a Hoover lover? Time out, fool. Nah, I don't know what you talking about. Yeah, time out. I'm from Deuce's, Trace's, Foz's, and Selma's. Yeah, you better know it. I'm from the Agland, nigga. I'm from the Glen Garden, nigga. I fuck with all the crew. The Garden Block. Yeah, he fuck with all the real. Shout out to the Agland. Shout out to Hooverland, man. Shout out to Pilot. Yeah. Shout out to the Agland. It's a real war going on in Fort Worth that I'm ten toes in. So when I see people from outside of murder speaking on this shit going on in my city, I don't like that shit. Yeah, real tough.

1:41:48Y 'all stay on that shit, boy. Stay on them folks' tops. You know I am. All right.

1:41:52Adam22:Much love, y 'all. All right. Yeah, so again, man, you can't do that to your people. He ain't even mad at me about the booty. Yeah, but we still gonna walk with you. We on here now. See, you go right back to the booty. He ain't mad at me about the booty. Come on, my God. Yeah, come on, bro. That's a media game. idiot that ain't the media game bro that's the cop sucking game it happens to all of us no no no what they call it blood sucking game man yeah but but i'm saying the news is the news you gotta let the homie redeem himself behind some of him and his woman man that's what like now you saying with gumby it's between you and your woman it is what i'm saying nobody stood on business for goyo and defended his heterosexuality more than me okay i was out here saying yeah he showed his butthole Who cares?

1:42:33Adam22:Maybe he had a hemorrhoid. Maybe he was just showing his girl what was going on. I'm the crazy person that everybody seems to disagree with where I actually feel like you can get f***ing the ass with a strap on by your girl, and that don't make you gay. Bup Daddy was doing it. You see what I'm saying? Bup Daddy was showing the cum on the nipples. I'm defending Diddy. I'm saying it now. At one point down the line. How old you are, Adam? 42. You 42? Yeah. I'm 47. Uh-huh. How old is Diddy? Diddy out there. 50-something? He's 50, yes. 50-something, yeah. It's going to be a Survive and No Jumble episode come out at some point.

1:43:07Not on some gay shit. No, on some diddy shit. Maybe Tony Wilrich. It's going to be on some diddy shit. What did you say? Maybe Tony Wilrich.

1:43:16Adam22:I had him on the podcast on purpose. What did you do now? Nothing. He said nothing. You say maybe Tony Wilrich. I'm lost. Why did you say that? Me and him had a little roll in the hay. I'm just kidding. Oh! Okay. Okay, you know. Hey. Don't fuck with his phone. You see we had to shot him down. You see we had to shot him down. Okay. You rolling in the hate? Shit. I ain't rolling in the hate, buddy. But you got to cut out the hating on Texas, bro. No, I don't hate on Texas at all. So I was working big time, bro. How am I hating on Texas when I was just out there with Cartel Boat, Max O 'Kreem, Go Yeo, CEO Gucci.

1:43:59Adam22:You was hustling. Doing all kinds. CJ Casino. We're doing all kinds of content out there. You come back out here and hate. I'm hanging out with FDA. But you come back out here and hate on Sauce, bro. No, but Sauce wants to beef with me, so all I can do is expose him. So what you mean, expose him for what? I can do expose him. No, he fake rich, you know. What do you mean how it is? Hey, I'll squash him with Sauce right now. He decided that he don't want to be opposite with me. No, but listen. Now, let's talk about it. We're talking about a kid, right? Who? Sauce Walker. He's a kid? No, he's not a kid.

1:44:26Nah, we're talking about his background. Okay. A black kid, you deal with all these different rappers, and very few people really make it. We're talking about somebody that's been able to be in and outside the industry, right? And make millions of dollars off their content. Allegedly. And you, allegedly, well, however you want to put it, somebody that's not in poverty no more. Wow. Right? And able to give other people opportunities. Have they? Yeah, peso, peso. Yeah. Yeah, the hardest SAO. But he's still hanging out with SOS? There you go. All right, see him together in a minute. But anyway. What happened to SOSA, man?

1:44:58Hey, anyway. What happened to all them SOSA back redoes?

1:45:01Adam22:But what I'm saying is why are you hating on successful? black people, man. How is he successful when he's streaming on Twitch all day with 200 viewers? What you mean? He can't afford to do it. He can't afford to do it. Listen, most people stream full time because they're making money from it. Listen, he obviously making money from somewhere else. It's called diversifying his streaming revenue. He's making 50 bucks a day. He's diversifying his streaming revenue. For now? Yeah, he's diversifying his streaming revenue. That's what I mean by hating your business, man. At some point you started this and you was interviewing people off skid row.

1:45:30Now you interviewing millionaires like myself. So you get that at some point.

1:45:34Adam22:Are you trying to draw attention to the fact that when we go live, we'll have six, seven, 8 ,000 people watching, and then when Sauce Walker goes live, he has 200 people watching? But five years ago, how many you had live? At some point, you didn't have that number. No, it was like about the same five years ago. All right, then. It took work, though. So I'm saying. No, like five, six, seven, 8 ,000, yeah. When you started five years ago? I started 10 years ago. 10 years ago. 11 years ago. And you had 5 ,000 people watching back then? No, no, no. All right, then. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, what I'm saying, recognize it when you see it.

1:46:02So you're saying I'm the big dog and he a little guy? No. Okay, because I agree. What I'm saying is you a hater.

1:46:07Adam22:Yeah, yeah, yeah. You a hater. But he started it. You know why he's streaming. I showed him love for years. He decided he wanted to be ops with me. Okay. You got it. You got it, sauce. How much money did he wanted you to pay him that made you mad? He never even had that conversation. Because you say he did the interview with Sharp and not you, and that's where the fallout came. I said I wanted to drink some lean with him because that wasn't good enough for him. but let me ask you. He took that as racist. He's a race baiter. Race baiter? Yeah. He got white women. What's wrong with drinking lean together?

1:46:36Adam22:He got white women. How are you race baiting? Yeah, he's pimping out white women. Cool. You're a sex trafficker. He got kids by. Yeah. He got kids. He got children. And isn't the number one rule of being a pimp you're not supposed to make your hoe your baby mama? Yeah, his P don't stand for pimp. It stands for player. You ever listen to his music? All he talks about is being a pimp. No, he not. He's a fake ass pimp. Come on, man. Listen, there's no pimping there. I agree. Boom, I agree. Thank you. He's not a pimp? Boom, I agree. I'm a big dog. He's a little guy. Boom, I agree. And he's not a pimp.

1:47:07Adam22:I agree. Yeah, well, when you really got it when you really got it, you don't got to be out here with the funny phone. You know what Jay said. That's part of his entertainment. It ain't entertaining nobody. You got 200 viewers. You need to have a whole TSF up here at No Jump. Who's left? Everybody still there. Dude? All of them still left. Shit. Yeah. I think they disgruntled. You might be defending Sean Cotton. I think they're about to form a union. You might be defending Sean Cotton because he took that loss. There's something here. No, no. That's the other guy I know is the one who beat up Sean Cotton.

1:47:44Y 'all might, but yeah, you got to get off chances, bro. Me and Rizzo were like this. Hey, did you see Rizzo? Rizzo, he in shape. He's healthy. Good. Yeah, he had to get away from this lean dealer, Sauce Walker. yeah. Southwark don't even do lean, bro. Southwark healthy too, bro. See him pouring up in a clip on Twitch. No, you got to get off the internet. You lying about everything. You got to get off the internet, bro. I'm just saying quit hating on Texas.

1:48:06Adam22:What's Southpane you to make up all this shit about him? What I'm saying is when are you going to reach out to Texas and make somebody in Texas bigger instead of hating on him? I just went there and did vlogs all over the whole state. Yeah, you was hustling. Nothing wrong with that. Salute you for that. Blowing up. That was dope. Smaller artists like CEO Gucci that I felt needed attention. Gucci. How come nobody else out in Texas is doing that? Because they are a bunch of vultures who are just trying to make money. Hot Thrust TV do that. That's how you knew a Gucci. And I support them. And you do.

1:48:35I'm saluting you for that. But I'm saying quit hating on the biggest artists we got out there, bro.

1:48:39Adam22:That's the biggest artists? Y 'all got big X to the plug and you're calling Sauce Walker the biggest artists? No, I said quit hating on the biggest artists. I put an S on it. Oh, okay. Yeah, quit hating on the biggest artists. You got to start claiming your actual artists. Meg Thee Stallion. Right. Travis Scott. Yeah, you ran her down there too, but we ain't going to get on that. But I'm just saying in general, man. I know. I feel like Sauce Walker got to keep it real. He's in denial. Okay. In denial of what? That you. That he fell off. I think y 'all both. Fell off from where? Entertainment, rap, music, social media.

1:49:09Okay, so to fall off, you have to have been up here and came down here, right? You have to go. It's a reversal move. Also, you got to understand.

1:49:17Adam22:I think he's still going up that way. No, that's a clear lie. Also, you got to understand, I'm an OVO agent. So I'm rolling with the boy no matter what. That's right. Speak the truth, Dan. He marked the boy out. So I get it. What? Yeah, I get it. Saus Walker has been marking himself out for years. Nah, you see what I'm saying? He's pretending it's something he ain't. Okay, so why? You want to know why you don't hear Saus Walker talk about me anymore? Pretending to be right. Because he knows the more attention I draw to the fact that he's a fraud, the more that people are going to keep looking into it and realizing that.

1:49:50Adam22:And I know it's hard for, as Texans, I know it's hard to accept the fact that he's a charlatan, but it's a fact. We watched him come up. Yeah. You out here in Burbank. He had a little... No, no, no. What I'm saying is this. What is he pretending about? I'm confused. To be rich, to be lit, to be popular as a rapper. Well, if that's the case, everybody pretending. Not like that. You included. I don't buy views. you think he really got a million views on his music videos? I don't know. You're a grown man. You really think that? You know better than me. I think he's that popular. Have you been to his neighborhood?

1:50:29Probably. I don't know. Probably not. Have you ever saw his fan base? You think there's a million people in his neighborhood? Have you ever saw his fan base? Have you ever saw his community? What's the solution though? There's no solution. He thinks somebody's gonna buy down to him. He wanted beef with me. He got it.

1:50:45Adam22:he's the one who sparked all this off I showed him love for years and years you don't know that I hung out with him back in the day I've been around him right so you really know him but he decided he wanted to smoke with me so I'm gonna poke holes in his facade oh man it is what it is wouldn't you call that malicious then? malicious malicious yeah I'm all that and more right so because it's a sore thumb because if he wants beef with me don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house, all right? Right. So, if you don't want me drawing attention to the fact that he's living a lie, then why'd you want to be with me in the first place?

1:51:23Right.

1:51:24Adam22:I don't know why. Because he's exposing your lie. What? You a charlatan. Same thing you calling him. I mean, that's just all he's doing. What's my lie, though? I'm really what I say I am. What? An antichrist? Sure. Okay. I'm an atheist, and I say I'm an atheist. What I'm saying is this. You come from way different backgrounds. You have an opportunity that a kid like Sars Walker would never have coming up. I'm from pretty humble beginnings in New Hampshire. I'm not saying poor. I'm saying opportunities, though. He's from one of the biggest musical cities in the country. Right. And he's also from...

1:51:55Adam22:I wish I had that privilege. Yeah. And he also made something out of it. For a little while there. Yeah, he's still there, though. Because you got to fall off, you have to go down. All I see is more investments and more growth. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I get. But I get you not on his side. Yeah. You from New Hampshire. You ain't on nobody's side. NH. Yeah. You know, with the gang bang. You know, with the dry gang bang. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? They threw up the nuggers. Yeah, you get it. You get it, boy. It stands for New Hampshire when I do it. Whatever. Yeah, whatever. But you got to be in New Hampshire to do it, though.

1:52:31Adam22:No, I'll just take my set worldwide. My state is on my back. Okay. The Granite State. You ever seen Granite? I heard. That's a hard rock. I've never been to New Hampshire. Matter of fact, where is it? It's right outside Boston. It's called the Greenest State. Basically like the most northeastern part of the country. Boston was a city. Boston is a city in Massachusetts. I grew up five minutes from the Massachusetts border. Okay, so New Hampshire is a state or a city? State. I'm from Nashua, New Hampshire for the record. Who? Nashua. Nashua. It's the biggest city in New Hampshire. Right. Top cop over here.

1:53:07Adam22:We got one. I forgot to talk about this. We're aging Smith. his mother never that never told yo this is the one thing we got to talk about so funny and people don't know about this is that when i was actually in texas me you and 607unk we go to take a photo right and 607unk blew my mind and keep in mind this is like a couple days after that four extra podcast that ended up being so fateful we go to get in the picture and 607unk goes hey get get Get this crackhead in the photo, right? He grabs you and says that, and you immediately are not feeling it at all. It got intense for a second, man. Yeah, well, I'm going to be honest with you.

1:53:54Adam22:I was taking a bet. 607, I'm caught. You a crackhead? Yeah. Man, this fool said the most belanderous dickweed-ass shit you could ever say, homie. I'm in front of Adam. This is my first time meeting him. He want to introduce me. This is his joke, though. This is how he play games. See, six or seven Unk played real foul games. Just like the podcast, honestly. That's the kind of thing you would do in the podcast. He'd come. My people say, yeah, Kunta, get in the picture with Adam 22. You know, go ahead and get in that picture. Because Bishop Eli was in the picture. Am I wrong? Me, Bishop Eli, and his wife, and I think this brother.

1:54:31And Unk came and got in the picture. Unk said, oh, man, what y 'all got the crackhead in the picture? I say look here if you ever say that again man I'm gonna slap you right here in front of everybody bro

1:54:42Adam22:I thought I was really about to see a fight it was crazy I was about to slap the brace off 607 up cause see that's the type of dumb shit he'll do bro you see what I'm saying remember this is the whole jack in the beanstalk cause he's one of those same dudes that wanna climb up the beanstalk and don't let nobody else climb up so what happened from your experience he was from the smack on him I actually thought for a second that I was about to see him get smacked I was about to slap him on my mama All he had to do was say one more thing, and he would have got slapped down on G-O-D. I promise you that.

1:55:10Because when he said that, I knew he was attempting to assassinate my character. Oh, so that's why he probably set you up with Gumby and stuff, man. Yeah, because I told him I was going to slap him. Yeah, you're kind of cracking the code over here, agency. Yeah, yeah. You got our motives. Yeah. Yeah, you're kind of cracking the code over here, man. I did tell him in front of everybody that I was going to slap him down, hear me? Right after that came the Gumby thing. Came the Gumby stuff. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I said, yeah. Yeah. You kind of helping out there, New Hampshire. He jumped off the deep end.

1:55:41Yeah. Damn near got slapped in the next weekend. You hear me? Yeah.

1:55:45Adam22:Yeah. I went right inside and told Rainwater because I thought I was about to see somebody get shot the f*** up in this parking lot. Right. Yeah. Because it got to that point. Rainwater. Real piss out. What's your scariest moment being a no-jumper media personality when you was honestly like shook shook and it's for the real tuners out there you may be able to help them out a couple times doing the vlogs there's been situations where somebody maybe said something to me and then somebody else had to tell them like nah you ain't with him but it's not like it got real crazy it was just kind of like one person said one thing and then somebody else told them that they weren't going to do anything to me so that's about as deep as it got for you so you know because I see these other white bloggers and they done been shot at people in their crew done been shot like so I'm saying there never nothing drastic ever happened I mean the rapper Ruga from Chicago got so mad at me during a podcast that security kind of like they didn't drag him out but they walked him out right he had to be escorted that got a little weird for a moment but that's about as deep as it go yeah I was doing a podcast with this guy Stew Boy Blue who is like actually out of his mind and I asked him about Nipsey Hussle losing his life and he started screaming in my face and then almost immediately started crying.

1:57:10Adam22:I think when you're talking about when he said, don't speak on Nixie Hussle, I think I seen him. So you knew right then you weren't qualified. There was a moment there where I was like, I was like, oh, he's about to hit me and I'm going to have to fight this dude. Right. And that was a little stressful, but then it was like over as soon as it started, which was crazy. Then he's, boom, then he's crying and I'm just sitting there like, oh, okay. That was strange. He took you there for a minute. Yeah, that was wild. You know, I've seen a couple people get shot at a party one time. That was a covering one time.

1:57:39But it had really nothing to do with it.

1:57:40Adam22:I was just standing there. I hid behind a t-shirt rack. And then some guy tweeted out that I jumped on top of his sister to protect her. I was like, nah, I was just jumping. I was just trying to protect myself. You don't think at some point you might run out of luck? I know you don't believe in luck. Dance with the devil and don't get burned. No, but if there's no guard, there's no devil. Yeah, well, it's a metaphorical devil. Oh, okay. I could say dance in the water and don't get wet. I got you. I got you. So you don't believe in both. So I'm with you. I mean, even all the years that I spent riding BMX for like 20 years before I started really doing hip hop content, we were outside every single day.

1:58:17Adam22:I've seen people get shot and killed when I was riding BMX more than when I've been doing hip hop content. Right. I'm with you. I've seen a Mexican waiter get blammed in the head when I was just riding down the street. Right. Well, actually, we were in a van driving to the next spot. But I'm just saying, you know. Right. You've been around. I do feel like I have an above average risk tolerance. I got you. I'm not really worried about shit most of the time. No, I'm just asking because of the 607-O thing. Yo, that was a great moment, though. That was a hell of a way to meet you. Yeah. I'm telling Rainwater, I'm like, bro, this dude seems pretty serious.

1:58:49Adam22:And Uncas called him a crackhead, and they look like they was about to fight. What the fuck? I slapped the brakes off that guy, man. Playing them dirty games. What the hell wrong with you, boy? What you did? You slapped yourself upside the head? Crazy, man. Yeah. But then, you know, I respected you then because the first thing you said, man, you apologized on his behalf. You didn't even know me, Adam. Yeah. And I appreciate it. Also, you be diffusing shit, too. Yeah, he did. Well, I just told him, like, hey, I don't know anything about that. Like, you know. Hey, man. But then. I didn't want to think that I was having to set this around.

1:59:20But then he turned around and do the same thing to the homie Percy. I don't know, man. So why are you in Percy beef? Okay. Well, let me go on and clean this up. Percy, man, we just do it for content purposes, man. We ain't beef. Oh, okay. It's just content purposes. I ain't got no beef with that dude. He's from my hometown, man. Okay. You know, behind the scenes, we know each other. Like, I don't know him like that, but we know each other enough to keep it on the internet. It ain't no beef like that in real life. He just, you know, an internet guy. You know, he finds a pleasure talking about me.

1:59:52Adam22:He needs something to talk about. He on Real Tune every other week. Yeah. I mean, I wish he had enough sense to leave Real Tune. Oh. Because Real Tunes is really just pimping the homie out. You know what I'm saying? I know. I mean, come on, man. Percy should be, where the hell do you think? Man, look at all this stuff he done done on Real Tunes, you know, on that channel. He should be a lot further, you know. Maybe they got a good beneficial partnership. Nah, man. You know, you play with people's intelligence, man. That's called manipulation, you know. And I think Realtunes has a real slick way of playing with people's intelligence.

2:00:30You know, like telling you that, you know, the yellow brick road, you know, follow the yellow brick road. The yellow brick road is a dead end.

2:00:39Adam22:Okay. Yeah, that's how he got Percy. Percy going down a road that really don't exist and definitely has a dead end. Interesting. who else is on real tune that you think like who are his main characters when I was looking at it before though he's his main character he's Puff Daddy you don't see him out on the screen now he's a PE teacher man the Richard Simmons thing was funny I got nothing against the real tune dude like I mean I feel like I kind of heard him have a little bit of salt in his voice talking about me before I don't really have beef with him I have heard him say things about me where I was like Oh, okay.

2:01:17Adam22:You don't like me. Interesting. But I mean, I don't really beef with up and coming content creators like that. Yes, you do. Yeah, you beef with a lot of them. Nah, I try to uplift them. Negative. Facts. Incorrect. Why am I out here doing content with Pico and FDA then? No, some. You said them. You say put some on it. Yeah, I mean. Some you tear down and some you lift up. I can do a little bit of both. Right. That's all I'm saying. You said them like you was grouping them all together. I like FDA, though. So I had to go sit down with him. Nah, you be hating on them. You like FDA, but you be hating, man.

2:01:54Who else, though? Yeah, it's a bunch of them you hate on.

2:01:57Adam22:I was out here showing the... All right, so what else do we need to know? What do you guys got coming up? Yeah. Are you coming to South by Southwest? They still do that shit? See, now they ain't going to be in disrespect. I'm just saying... You just said you were from Austin? Because my boy Remo went last year, and he said that was the last year. You just said you're from Austin? I'm not gonna lie, that shit dead as fuck. We doing South by Southwest this year. High Thoughts TV, March what? What's the date? 14th. March 14th, what's the place? Reset Sports Bar. I'm not going to lie. Reset Sports Bar.

2:02:31Adam22:I worked security at some bars in Austin in 2009 during South by Southwest. That's how from the soil I am. I was a security guard. I was checking IDs. You live there. Yeah. Why did they have you security? You can't fight at them. Like what the fuck? Luckily I didn't have to. But my boy Byron Anderson who lived out there, he's a former pro BMX rider. He was like, yo, we need help with security. You down to do it? and I think partway through that day I really realized that I was not meant to work for 10 bucks an hour you got the hype but what I saw in that ring you have no way you can't help nobody bro you can't save not one person I'm saying you're not a security guard I'm a shooter or a potential future shooter yeah but that was a good time got to see a lot of good bands while I was working Right.

2:03:25Adam22:So how old was you? 2009 was 17 years ago. So I was like 25. 25, 30. Yeah, okay. So you got a little history, man. Did your family live out there or did you live out there? No, we were just out there. Austin's a famous BMX city. Oh, so you was out there in the BMX culture. They got crazy BMX stuff going on out there. All right, we're about to wrap this up. Shout out to OG Kunta who has just walked over there to probably go. But we're wrapping up. We're wrapping up. Just give me an outro, brother. Yeah. Yeah, okay, man, because I didn't sit here and hail my mother. I didn't hail myself, man. I got to go piss, man.

2:03:59Yeah, I feel that.

2:04:00Adam22:I got to piss, too. But shout-out to you guys for coming through here. I appreciate it. It was a nice, lively conversation. Man. Shout-out to Texas, man, before we get out of here. Shout-out to Texas. Shout-out to the Astros. Shout-out to all the Hoovers out there. It's very convenient that you guys get to rock the Astros logo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little confusing for people out here. Yeah, it's not. It's not. It's not. I mean, because you got a lot of dudes from here that embrace that sign. For sure, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, you know, that's a cultural exchange, man. You got, you know, who was all over the world pretty much.

2:04:28The Astros is their son. That star.

2:04:31Adam22:Free Gumby. Okay. I'm going to just make my allegiances clear. Free my boy Gumby. Nah, see, how you going to get him out? I just reached out to Gorilla Hebrough for his number, so we're going to figure out something. Okay, that's what's up. I need an update. Look out, Gumby. Again, you owe me one. Yeah, you owe me one. Yeah, we got Adam reaching out. Yeah. Yep. We got Adam reaching out for you, homie. So don't keep thinking that everybody that say just because I'm not Hoover like you stink, you Hoover, homie. That a nigga ain't, that a nigga on that dumb shit. We ain't on that dumb shit, homie.

2:05:02You don't need to be in there. What you really need to do is get out and bring your ass back down here so we can get that fade in. So we can get that fade in. We get that good old friendly fight. And then everybody can drink coffee and beers and shit after that. You know what I'm saying? Coom by my ****. Yeah.

2:05:17Adam22:What about some Texas tea? Oh, some Texas tea. You know? Straight up. We can do that after that. All right. Because I'm the type of guy, man, if you whoop my ass, man, I'm not going to be mad at you. I'm going to shake your hand like a man. And if we have to fight again, you won't do it again. Oof. All right. Appreciate you guys coming through. No problem, man. Much love. Much respect. Texas is in the building, man. Shout out to all the grooves all over the globe. Shout out to all the grooves, man. And they had him know day room time. Shout out to Drewski. Yeah, it's day room time. Shout out to Drewski.

2:05:47Shout out to Quarter. You know, my little people behind me, man. Y 'all look me up, man. OG Kunta cuz on 52nd. OG Kunta 52nd. Visual meanings. That's my own channel. I said my own channel. Unique Perspective, too. I'm on there, too. Check us out. And that's who I really want to introduce you to. That's your channel? Yes. You remember Drew? Unique Perspective. Drew. Drew? Drew. Drew. Yeah.

2:06:10Adam22:Okay. Yeah, he's a real good editor. An editor, man. You tell them about the day room, man. Yeah, man. Hey, man, we on the day room. The day room is open, man. CEO of Hockey League. CEO Hockley nigga. Texas Day Room on YouTube. That's what we at man. Look us up man. You know what we doing in that day room. You ever been in the day room before? Never. Never. So your 24 hours they only kept you in a holding tank? Yes. Men's Central Booking in Lower Manhattan. So yeah. Worst 24 hours of my life. Really convinced me I didn't want to be a criminal. Yeah. We're going to bring you to the day room. We're going to bring you to the day room.

2:06:44Texas Day Room man. We got to get loud in the day room. Yeah. You got to get lined up.

2:06:49Adam22:Oh, yeah. You guys know OG Red Dog? I was watching this guy the other day. Oh, so Unique Perspective podcast. That's where I was watching the other day. Yeah, that's what you was watching him. You didn't expect that. Drewski, man. That's Drewski. Drewski. God damn it. All right, all right. Shout out to Drewski, man. There's you guys. Yeah, me. OG Kuta and Bella crash out mid-interview. The fire's going down. Yeah. Yeah, it's going down. You got to watch me, man. You know, I'm going to show my show. All right, let's go. Appreciate you guys. No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Like, comment, and subscribe.

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