Raymeezy on Working with Boosie & FYB J Mane, Beef with White Dolomite & More

21 Jul 2025 · 1 h 6 min · 24 chapters

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In short

Raymeezy (Rockville, IL) discusses growing up in Rockford gang culture, being a “little person” with confidence, working in clubs/strip clubs, meeting Boosie through a paid verse and shooting videos, and a long-running beef with White Dolomite (manager behind Raymeezy’s comedy/skits) over alleged backdooring/finesse and stolen control of his content. He also addresses a Jerry Springer appearance and a fight/video dispute involving White Dolomite.

Guest backgrounds

No Jumper host Adam22 interviews Raymeezy. White Dolomite is referenced as Raymeezy’s former manager. “Stretch Lex” appears as another guest/participant, claiming 6’7”/3’11” comedy skit collaboration history and work with No Jumper figures.

Key claims

Raymeezy says White Dolomite “finessed” him, took his money/controlled assets, and helped reduce his reach (dropping to ~12,000 followers). He claims Boosie had “good vibes,” paid/paid attention via a verse, and Raymeezy shot videos at Boosie’s crib. He says Jerry Springer paid him (claims vary: $500 vs $700). He insists he didn’t “lose” a fight, though others say he did.

Notable examples

sweeping money off a strip club stage; Worldstar virality (including Walmart grocery-cart skits); Jerry Springer with “Big Pussy Grave”; Boosie meeting via homie’s paid verse; a clipped reposted fight video reposted for two years; alleged prank history tied to White Dolomite.

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Chapters

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Life in Rockville, Illinois

0:33 to 1:00

Ray Meese shares what it’s like growing up in Rockville.

“It's weeknight dinners, sitting around the table, everyone talking all at once.”

Life in Rockville, Illinois

2:15 to 3:43

Ray Meese shares what it’s like growing up in Rockville.

“A lot of people don't know it get down to Rockville.”

Gang Experiences and Jerry Springer

3:43 to 5:29

Discussion on Ray's gang experiences and his appearance on Jerry Springer.

“a fight did you have to fight like no no no no no no I had people that fought for you Yeah, yeah, yeah.”

Connecting with Boosie and J-Mane

5:29 to 7:35

Ray talks about his connections with Boosie and J-Mane.

“no he wasn't he was good people but it was more like kind of professional fake and it went all the way Jerry Springer not real Stop playing with me.”

Working at the Club

7:35 to 14:00

Ray explains his role and experiences while working at a club.

“I was going to be like, listen, so you was on Jerry Springer, and that was good being from Rockville, Illinois, but it don't stop there because how the fuck you know Boosie?”

Meeting Boosie and First Impressions

14:00 to 19:41

Learn about the host's experience meeting Boosie and impressions of him.

“Let me act like an Adam so you can get it right.”

Meeting Boosie and First Impressions

20:18 to 20:45

Learn about the host's experience meeting Boosie and impressions of him.

“It's weeknight dinners, sitting around the table, everyone talking all at once.”

Drama with White Dolomite

21:42 to 28:00

Insights into the tensions and allegations involving White Dolomite and the impact on relationships.

“No, I'm talking about that's what he was...”

Collaborative Beginnings

28:00 to 28:30

Discussing the initial stages of their collaboration and viral moments.

“So pretty much, you know, we just kept going.”

Meeting on Social Media

28:30 to 29:38

Exploring how they met on Instagram and the risks of online friendships.

“And then I put them in people's grocery carts in Walmart.”
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The Evolution of Their Partnership

29:38 to 30:52

Detailing the dynamics of their professional relationship and creative projects.

“His son messed about the internet and they killed him.”

Video Production Insights

30:52 to 31:37

Insights into their video production process and collaboration on skits.

“So he comes out like he's bigging you up.”

Confrontations and Conflicts

31:37 to 35:59

Recounting conflicts, including a confrontation with another individual.

“No, I was talking when he was like, I was dealing with the message.”

Backdoor Betrayal

35:59 to 40:03

Discussing feelings of betrayal within their professional network.

“He clipped half the video because he knew I was doing my shit too.”

Reflections and Moving Forward

40:03 to 42:00

Concluding thoughts on personal growth and the importance of moving on.

“type shit like hey you ain't gotta backdoe me and then like cause it was like bothering him and then he told my mans right and my mans like man And he told him because it was bothering him.”

Taking the Righteous Route

42:00 to 44:34

The discussion focuses on the importance of earning success through hard work and love, avoiding bitterness.

“We trying to change it with love, right?”

Taking the Righteous Route

45:08 to 45:35

The discussion focuses on the importance of earning success through hard work and love, avoiding bitterness.

“It's weeknight dinners, sitting around the table, everyone talking all at once.”

Life Experiences and Humor

45:36 to 54:59

A humorous exchange on life experiences, confidence, and relationships, particularly related to height and dating.

“I haven't seen a lot of shit, so I just played my part.”

Working with Famous Personalities

55:00 to 56:00

Discussion about collaborations with notable figures like Boosie and Deebo, and exploring the dynamics of those relationships.

“Nah he ain't backdoor How y 'all break up That ain't my stealer I know I'm just joking How y 'all break up?”

Discussion on Debo's Legacy

56:00 to 57:48

Exploring the nuances of relationships and legacy after loss.

“that's where we did it at shout out Phoenix Arizona long live Debo how they work how you hook up with Debo um Lolo's, right?”

Humor and Conversations about Adult Content

57:48 to 58:04

Engaging in lighthearted banter about adult film conventions.

Raymeezy's Musical Aspirations

58:04 to 1:01:54

Raymeezy shares insights on his music career and future projects.

“I never got into it like that But I got videos of my females and shit I never got into that The porn The porn You got big enough meat for it?”

Personal Growth and Management

1:01:54 to 1:04:06

Discussing the importance of personal growth and collaboration in the industry.

“different type of collaborations with companies, businesses, whatever.”

Personal Growth and Management

1:06:21 to 1:06:37

Discussing the importance of personal growth and collaboration in the industry.

“I didn't like what you said, Odin pauses, about the future.”
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Transcript

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0:00This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So you were scrolling on Marketplace and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew. Well, a community cycling group. The thing about Facebook, you might find more than what you're looking for. From a browse to a bike ride, this summer, find more on Facebook. This episode is brought to you by Palmolive. Family time isn't just the big moments. It's weeknight dinners, sitting around the table, everyone talking all at once.

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1:14If you want to support me, you get 100 Glocks and ride down on all your ops. But say the little people. I mean, I'm sorry. I'm not saying the little people. I'm saying you kind of small. Listen, but you kind of big. Small to big. Good combination, right? But listen, everybody watching, this is my main man. It's cool. We kind of rude here at No Jump. I don't know why he didn't get you up closer. You good? Yeah. You good? You sure? Okay. The mic good? Put it close. That's right. Yeah, we used to have him for extra in there. Yeah, yeah. He got hit extra. So the chart was up a little extra. We got to make sure you good, though.

1:47Listen, for everybody watching, they don't know who you is, right? They don't know where you come from, right? And that was kind of odd. But let them know who you is and, like, where you come from. Cause they don't know they gotta update their app. Cause I don't think their app updated. Nah, for real. Yeah, fix that kind of like. I mean, I'm not like the d***, but like kind of like close. That part. Yeah. No diddy. Yeah. All diddy. There's no jumper. There's no jumper gang. Gotta do it right. Respect. Yeah. Oh, this your boy Ray Meese. You know what I'm saying? From Rockville, Illinois. You know?

2:14Shout out to No Jumper. Rockville, Illinois. Yes, sir. Oh, shit. It's gang shit. Respect. They get down to Rockville. A lot of people don't know it get down to Rockville. Yeah, they get real trenchy.

2:26but you smaller than the average. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm quite big in Rockford, you know. Come on, gang. You ain't big. Ain't no big about you. Nah. No, I'm just keeping it real, right? Let's be real. Let's be honest. What's big about you? I'm big in my own ways. Oh. You know? Okay. But, yeah. But you big in Rockford. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. You know? How was it like growing up in Rockford? Like, for everybody watching, they ain't never been to Rockford. So, explain to people that's watching what's Rockford like. We outside of Chicago, you know? Oh, shit. Outside of... GDs, BDs, Vice Lords?

2:55Gang shit? No, stone shit. Oh, stone shit. Okay, I'm stone too. Yeah. Right. Yeah, so what it's like, they let you in the game? Oh, yeah, of course. Stop playing with me. Spanker. They let you in the game? I'm in there, I'm in there. How they jump you in? That gotta be, listen, listen, y 'all wrong if y 'all jumped him in. Listen, did they hurt you? No. How you get in? What they gotta do to you? Because I know somebody named Tony, you know, Crip Tony. He got fucked in. No, I'm not. How did you get in? being a little person oh you know you know we have meetings and stuff you know just you know I got no way it's good you got to attach to it you know what I'm saying you on a gang shit right now you ready to go right now no no no I'm a man I'm a ride of that though right but you know time goes on like you know been through a lot you know seen a lot you know so did you have a fight a fight did you have to fight like no no no no no no I had people that fought for you Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:52A lot of people want to know. But, yeah. It's a small person where I come from. I don't like to say small person. It's a midget. No, you valid. His name Lil Half. But he can knock a big guy out. I swear to God, Mom. But he from St. Louis. Everybody knows Lil Half. He in the feds right now. He got caught selling a whole lot of big dope. Bigger than him. Yeah, he in jail right now in the feds. Have you ever had a fight with somebody like bigger than you? Nah. Come on, guys. I'm playing in no fight. Nah. You ever had a fight with a midget? Nah. Playing like wrestling and that shit. Like, you know.

4:19You thought I say fights booty on the internet. That's what I'm also you find a big-ass booty on it in that Some female booty Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get an end on that You fight you fight booty on internet

4:32I just saw you on internet with the booty the booty big as hell so you be Some bitches have sex So I just want to know when you put the condom on you put on your whole body. It's just a part Because what if you slip in? I'm just saying you ever been like where you slipped in before? No, I fell in How you falling? How you falling? How you get out? Like a C-section How to get you out? That part How to get you out? How to get you out? How to get you out Once you get in? Oh, come on, guys I'm not making fun of Little people I love little people How do you get out Once you get in? I work my way out of here How?

5:12With butter or something? KY jelly? come on I ain't trying to make it awkward let's not make it awkward because Jerry Springer probably made it awkward you was on Jerry Springer he was on Jerry Springer so Jerry Springer was he awkward like me no he wasn't he was good people but it was more like kind of professional fake and it went all the way Jerry Springer not real Stop playing with me. I've been watching Jerry Springer. You tell me. No, no. Long live Jerry. You know. I got to wake him up. I got to wake him up. That shit was fake. So it was. No, no. The episode I was doing. Was real. It was.

5:54It was real. But it was a joke. Like. Kind of. Same situation. You know what I'm saying? Like we stripped it. You know. That's great. How did that come about? How did you like. Hick up with Jerry Springer? Um. They reached out to me. And I was dealing with a girl named. Big Pussy. You know. Stop playing with me. What's up? on Big Pussy Grave. Oh, she dead? Her pussy dead. Come on, guys. Who killed the pussy? I know you ain't doing it. You too smart. No, no. Multiple individuals. Oh, she got like 100 ,000 bodies. That part. So, yeah, I created on Big Pussy Grave. Like, you know. So you and Big Pussy got together with?

6:30Yes. We was on Jerry Springer. You know what I'm saying? We was on Jerry. And then... What brought y 'all to go on, Jerry? I'm still not understanding. Like, what brought y 'all, like, what Jerry wanted to get y 'all on that for? Always entertaining on Facebook. like going live cutting up like OnlyFans cutting up on live and shit just going crazy cutting what? like no already acting yeah and then one thing left another y 'all got on Jelly Springer but they reached out to him reached out to her me they reached out to him and then y 'all got together right so how does that work like being who you are did Jelly Springer pay y 'all anything get y 'all any money or what did he do?

7:05oh they paid us and flied us out with$500 like that's what I heard like$500 like$5 $500. $500. $500 or$500? I'll wake Jerry ass up right now. I ain't letting him. Like, what, what? They paid me like$7, though. Come on, gang. Stop playing on me. $700, though. What's$7,$7? What's$7,$700? It's the same. It's the same. It's different. Like,$7 is$7 ,000. $7. Come on, gang. $700,$7 ,000,$7 ,000. You just said seven different sevens. Yeah. What's one is it? $700. So, he paid you$700. Yeah. So, I ain't going to wake Jerry up. I would have woke Jerry ass up. I was going to be like, listen, so you was on Jerry Springer, and that was good being from Rockville, Illinois, but it don't stop there because how the fuck you know Boosie?

7:44Listen, I fuck with Boosie gang, and shout out to Boosie on GDBD Vice, Lauren. But how you know Boosie? I don't understand how you know Boosie. Because I don't know Boosie. My homie named Slick, he be doing his thing, and he invested into his brand. He invested into his brand, and he reached out to me. but he had someone his cousin was my size too but he wasn't interested in doing what I was gonna do or whatever you know what you was gonna do I did a lot of shit what you do no like reenacting to things reenacting to what like you know like you know like skits and shit like how you do a lot of skits skits funny videos and all types of other shit right right and that led you down there with J-Main and listen for everybody's I'm the king of Chicago right but I seen J-Main play with you right in a little video You walked up.

8:32He asked you what you were, Key, how old you was and shit. Like, in that video, stop playing on me. That's my boy. That's my boy. He's playing with you like that. Come on, you got to go gangsta on here. I got your back. There's no jumper, gang. So, J-Mane got to disrespect him real quick. Say, fuck J-Mane for me. No, no. Come on, do that for me. Listen, man. Represent for no jumper. No, okay. No, I respect no jumper. I respect J-Mane. We love you, J-Mane. But how did you hook up with J-Mane? How did that work? Because he won't hook up with me. I know him. But I met him one time through somebody.

9:03But then through Butter. I guess because I met him through a snitch. It was kind of funny. But I met him through Butter down in Texas. We was cool. Did a couple videos. After that, he won't ask none of my DMs. So he don't want to know me. But after that, he want to know you. So tell me, how did you get to know J-Mang? Because he don't want to know me. No, I was clubbing and shit. He came to the club that I worked at. And he asked me that. Hold on. Hold on. What the fuck you doing at the club? How you working at the club? No, I'm like the one. Like the ones. Don't tell me you no bouncer. No, like a little mini security guard.

9:33Come on, guys, stop playing on me. You ain't no fucking security guard. Stop playing on me. What club? Vows for that. Oh, man, he one of the toughest of the tough. He one of the toughest of the toughest, man. He be in the clubs, man. I done seen him in the trenches. I done seen him at all. He a security guard? Oh, man. Not like security like that, but like. Watch over. You got the guns on you or something. No, no, no. Oh, you are the guns. They aim you and. I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out what. No, I just played it like back around like ask people like do they want ones like you probably come in and say I need a That ain't security You don't want to worry I'm security to the you're securing the ones I'm security to the females But you can't protect the female if I want to rape a female in a club you in security I'm still get that I'm still on I mean, you ain't gonna stop me from getting that How you gonna stop somebody like me?

10:21I'm twice I'm small man, but I'm twice your size So imagine trying to stop out of 22. He a real freak How you gonna stop Adam 22 From getting near one of your bitches in the club How would you do that Cause you gotta have a real good tackle for that What you gonna hit him by the knees What you gonna do I just wanna know I'm gonna tackle him I'm gonna tackle him Oh no no I'm not saying I'm not saying how you gonna get him Cause you got the Cause I don't think you can reach But you gonna be If you do that You gonna be close to the You know what I'm saying You gotta understand the position Nah It's gonna be a crazy position But listen Everybody know I was trying to figure out So how did you come to the fact When you started working at the club I'm gonna get to To Boosie But how did you get to the fact when you started working at the club?

10:57Because that was kind of like weird. I never even knew that you could work at a club. No, I was like the one, man. Like exchange ones and sweeping the stage with the money on the stage and stuff. So you stole a lot? No, no, no, no, no, no. You come on there, like you come on there and you throw a few bands and I sweep the money off the stage. Like I'm the sweeper. So you sweep money off the stage. How about the pay for that? Just some light, some light. How about the pay for that? because I might want to do that. My first night, I made like$15,$1 ,500. Why do you keep saying$15,$15? I think they scam you.

11:34Somebody scam you up. No, I'm saying. I think they scam you, gang. No, my coach is like speaking different. What do you mean you're speaking different? You're a recorded. I'm a recorded. I can tell you where you're a recorded come from. No, I'm telling you where I'm a recorded. I'm a recorded guy. I know where you're a recorded come from, and I can show you how to use your recordedness because I'm a recorded too. There are a lot of people that don't know. In your own way, right? No, in every way. Just like you. because right now I'm trying to have an interview with you and I can't really understand it.

11:58So I don't know if my viewers understand it. So let me translate a little bit what you said. So you said that I translate. So say what you just said. You remember or your brain? No, I was saying a lot of stuff. So what's the last thing you said? You remember? You kind of like confusing so I don't remember. I need to update my app. You hear me? No, about the job situation. Yeah, we were talking about you working at the strip club. Yeah, I work at the strip club. You said you was the broom, right? Yeah, sweeping the money out of the state. So you was the broom. I knew you was the broom. You was the broom?

12:30Or they held you by your head? No, the sweep. They held you by your head and they swung you at your feet? What, they put like cushion on your feet? I mean, you look good. Oh, you said you wasn't the broom. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to. I thought you said you was the broom. I was sweeping the money out of the state. But you wasn't the physical broom. So they wasn't sweeping you around. No, sir. Okay, good. I thought that would have been kind of like abuse. So I'm going to translate that for you. Listen, for everybody watching this, He wasn't saying he was a physical broom, right? What he was saying was he had a broom.

12:58But one question. Did they cut the broom in half or was the broom real big and hold it like this? No, it was just. They cut it. It was just right. Okay. He had a just right broom and he swept at the club. So I wanted to clarify that. He swept the stage. He swept the stage. Swept the money up. And he didn't steal. That part. I just want to clarify that. What you doing, gang? Yeah. Well, listen, clarify that. So from that, you met Boosie. So how did that work? How you meet Boosie? he came to the club to get some pussy or something. Or he came to the club to get his man daughter. Because his man daughter probably was in there.

13:27Oh, that's what we was talking about. Yeah, we were talking about how you met Boosie. No, my homie paid for a verse. Paid him. Oh, yeah, Boosie be doing that. He be broke. He paid, he paid, he paid. My homie paid him some bandies. And so he reached out to me. Because my homie. What the f*** wrong with you, gang? Come on, we gotta get this shit out. No, for real, you gotta get them words out. There's no jumping. There's a big platform. There's a big platform, so you gotta, like, think about it in your head before you say it. How you meet Boosie? Let me act like an Adam so you can get it right. How you meet Boosie?

14:10That make you more comfortable? Who got that phone? Turn that phone off! Who that phone is? I'm sorry, they disrespecting us. Yeah, so how you meet Boosie? I met Boosie not like met him like my homie was dealing with him and he got on the verse with him and my homie reached out to me and asked me did I want to go to his crib and shoot a video what time you get to his crib what time like no I'm talking you a hater video you know you can look it up are you a star so listen for everybody watching people who never met Boosie what is Boosie like is he like he is on the internet like is he like gay no no he ain't gay He actually, who he say he is.

14:53No, he good people. He got good vibe, good energy. So really old man. I don't know none about that. I mean, that's what we act like on the internet. So you're saying who he is. That's who he is. I don't know. So how did that day go? Like, what happened when you first, for everybody watching this, explain to everybody what it looked like at Boosie's career, but like how it was when you first got there. Like, for everybody watching. I ain't never been to Boosie's career. It was positive vibes, good energy. You know what I'm saying? He was, you know, he, no good sense of humor. you know what I'm saying he ain't so you're a comedian no no no he said Boosie a joker Boosie a killer gang no no he ain't show me no type of sugarness you know what I'm saying I ain't say sugar I say a killer no I'm talking like he ain't show me no bad he ain't gave me no bad no bad no bad vibe no bad vibe you didn't have to update his app no no his shit was updated he was updated listen I keep saying that but I won't let people know it's on your shirt and since you got it here that wifi signal been hitting me you know I get information from the cosmos.

15:51No, for real. Right? And my app is everywhere. That part. Yeah. So what app are you talking about? What the f*** do update your app mean? Update your app, like scan your barcode. I ain't even trust my ass, gang. Stop playing with me. No, no, no, no, no. What you talking about? No, no, no. Update your app like... Update your ass, gang. Stop playing with me. Your body's an app. My body ass, gang. Stop playing with me. Update my body ass. I'm not with that. Your body is an app. You know what I'm saying? Listen, for everybody watching, he didn't say update your body ass. He said your body app. You gotta say your words more clearer.

16:22But they don't think we gay. Adam already gay. They don't think I'm gay. I know I ain't that. They don't think we gay because we together. No, we ain't near that. I ain't that. Okay, good. So you said update your app. What does that mean? What did Brick Baby say? Brick Lady. Brick Lady. Say it right. Free Brick Baby, man. Brick Baby already free. Brick Baby is a two-year-old little fat baby. But Brick Lady is in jail right now. he said turn your you up man that's the same thing as update your app man turn your you up oh i get it so like turn your you up like like put a battery in your pack like don't let your battery die you know the battery right speaking of the battery one second because of the battery i want everybody to watching this that you're you're a physical battery we still confirm it and your battery right and god is keeping you hostage right but listen but i just just every time i hear stuff like that i gotta just tell them i'm kind of like programmed to do that But update your app I love that How did you come up with that?

17:20I came up with it You know just Scanning people barcodes Like I scan people barcodes To see if they Are you a scammer? No no no Scan Like scan Like you go Like that barcode right there To see if they valid Like you know But that's fake You kind of like I remember back in the day We was getting bluetooth And everybody watching this I ain't the one that did it But we was ordering The Beats by Dre's And we used to sell them And you could put the barcode on them And they show back real I was getting top dollar from him and I got him from China for$3. Like, am I saying, like, I'm trying to break it down to you.

17:52Okay, you break it down. That's like scanning people, like, you know. Checking their temperature. But I just changed the barcode, so how do you know if my shit's fake, if it's real? I'm scanning your barcode. My barcode's fake. I put a fake barcode. I'm acting like a man, but I'm really a transgender. I'm really a 403. How are you going to tell the difference? With your barcode, could your app just tell, like, boom, oh, that's a 403. I just listen to the vibration like just the frequency the vibration check if you valid or not no I'm saying like oh man that app is real listen update y 'all app because that app that app got some shit so it's gonna see through all the bullshit it's all types of apps you know what I'm saying hold up hold up it's all types of apps no it's all like your body app you know what I'm saying like shit need to be updated so explain that for everybody listen everybody watching this man just said your body is an app yeah right you know what I'm saying and I don't think people understand that explain what that means explain it yeah yeah in my sentence hey listen every time I talk to you be a transquiloquist or something you need transquiloquist?

18:52why is that a word? I know what he means I know what he means you be in work? tell us you be in work we very transparent we got six years of friendship that's good I know everything about this man I know what he be thinking when you're trying to get across. You know what I'm saying? I'll be looking out for him. Okay, good. That's my voice. That's good. I look out for him too. So what I'm trying to say, so I heard this, right? And I don't like to say this, but I heard that somewhere said somebody took advantage of you. I heard that you had a really big account and you were famous and people knew you before.

19:30Now you got 12 ,000 followers. Don't nobody know who the fuck you is. And we, I need to let it be known. Who would do that to somebody like you, right? It's kind of like child abuse. This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So you were scrolling on Marketplace, and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message, and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew. Well, a community cycling group. The thing about Facebook, you might find more than what you're looking for. From a browse to a bike ride, this summer, find more on Facebook.

20:14This episode is brought to you by Palmolive. Family time isn't just the big moments. It's weeknight dinners, sitting around the table, everyone talking all at once. So when the plates are empty and the sink is full, use Palmolive Ultra. Palmolive's most powerful formula removes up to 99.9 % of grease, leaving your dishes sparkling clean. And the new convenient pump makes cleaning even easier, so you can spend less time tackling dishes and more time together. Shop now at palmolive.com. I'm keeping it real right who would do that to you tell the world like who done it to you so we can get on a bumper cause we GDB fights for it right we the gang shit over here no trouble we represent everything I'm a crypt too I put my flag at well it's not here it's right here oh yeah good I'm senile too yeah let's represent who the f*** did that to you my homie we grew up together you know what I'm saying Stop playing on me.

21:14We grew up together. Somebody you knew? I knew. You know what I'm saying? I was like, you know, me and my girl was like trending on the book and stuff. The big f***ing girl. That part. Right. And he reached out to me like, oh, I can do this. I can do that. But I'm, you know, because he made it too, though, but he got blackballed. You know what I'm saying? He got blackballed. But, you know, his name, White Dynamite. White Dynamite. Yeah, the one did the prank on Boosie. Right. They call Boosie a boy. So Boosie is a boy. I asked you that. Why you didn't tell me he was a boy? No, he's a man. Oh, okay.

21:49So what happened with that? I thought you... We're getting misinformation. No, I'm talking about that's what he was... That was the prank. Oh, the prank. He pranked him. Okay, good. So that was his little claim to fame, but he piggybacked off my boy. Yeah. He like, you know... He like finessed me and stuff. He's a bitch ass. That part, yeah. Okay, so how does this bitch ass How did he finesse you? What did he, he came to you sweet, like, like, like, like a female told you, like a whole bunch of stuff that he wasn't going to do. Like I'm going to take you across the world. I'm going to make you tall.

22:21I just didn't know what I know at the time, like the internet situation. He didn't know proper, he didn't know the proper business, the entertainment business, how it worked. He had somebody managing him, like a shysty manager kind of did. You should use worldwide hustle development. That never would happen. But what happened? Yeah, man, you know, if you don't mind. Let me know. He got a speech impediment. No, yeah, you good. No, man, he had a boy. They grew up together. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? It's your boy Stretch Lex, too, by the way. Stretch Lex. Oh, yeah, introduce yourself.

22:51Everybody watching this. You know what I'm saying? It's your boy. You know what I mean? I do my thing. You know what I'm saying? Stretch Lex. I've been around. I also own a company called Yee TV. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no promoting. There's no jumper. No promoting. You got to pay for that. You got to go through the department. No, we got a department for that. No, man. There's a department you go through for promoting. They know who I am. They see this face. Yeah. This face is recognizable. Okay, good. You know what I'm saying? No, you know what I'm saying? I'm out here. You know what I'm saying?

23:13From Phoenix to L.A. You know what I'm saying? Put that to your mouth. Phoenix to L.A. I done paved my way. I've been out here for a minute. You know what I'm saying? Made a bunch of connections with No Jumper people here. I done work with Crip Mag, Lupe, 4 Extra, Brick Baby, Sharp. You know what I'm saying? Who else did I work with? Yeah, yeah. I'm really like that with the camera. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I also do this comedy stuff. So you still promote him. You find the way to promote. There's no jumper game. We got to start off with, you know, you're talking for him and you're talking for you.

23:44See, that's the problem. Everybody want to act like they with you, but they really feel him. So get rid of him. The moment he's even talking for you, he's talking for him. So that's what people do. They confuse you. See, you're a little person. You probably could hear a guy. They need to know who I am. They need to know who's talking. They need to know who's talking for him. Okay, I misunderstood. My fault. Don't listen to me. You're good. Stretch Lex was, so that's who I was and I came into the picture working with him. So me and him came in. Hold on, I know he be stealing from you because he stole my light.

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24:08I'm going to let you finish. Yeah, finish. Good, you're good. So we started working together, you know what I'm saying, doing comedy skits, right? So that's what I was doing, you know what I mean? That's the whole brand with this shit. And so we reached out. I'm hella tall. I'm six foot seven. He's what, 3 '11"? So we, come on, man. So the comedy is already going to be there. Come on. I'm tall as a mother. He's short. we walk around, we doing Walmart skits. We cracking off on world, start going viral. Homeboy, his manager, my homie, but he, his homie, but he grew up, but you did. Yeah. So he reads, you know, so many words.

24:43Yeah. So he reached out to us, you know what I'm saying? Type shit. And, uh, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I got to, I got to tap in with bro. You know what I mean? To work with him. Cause I'm like, I reached out with him on Instagram. Like, Hey Ray, we should work together. You know what I mean? I'm tall. You short. shit would go viral. He's like, okay, cool. Tap him on my manager. Boom. I tap him with his manager. We start doing content. We had a cool run, bro. Like a solid run. Like we was getting posted on Worldstar. What else was happening, bro? We got Debo working with us. He got big. Everything going good.

25:13Rest in peace to Debo. You get$7 to tell him it's 7 ,000. Everything's good. $700. $700. You know, Matt Lowe's a 7. Because 7 is the number of perfection. As long as add up. Add up 7, 7, 7. We love 7s. Now, back to you. what happened? But yeah, so, you know, we just kept working together and shit, and then, you know, we was working with Homeboy. Homeboy now, you know, White Dolomite, he was the manager behind Ray Meesey. So he was managing everything. Right. And he was doing, you know what I mean? This ain't no shade, no shade or no hate, bro. No, we do shade of hate on here. So say shade of hate.

25:44I'm not a hater. I'm not a player hater. Homie, you doing your thing, bro? But you did it a little shiesty, fam. And that's why we here, and that's why we getting our turn. and even though it's a year later after his bitch ass done came down here, I'm speaking up for him because he played my boy to the side. He's disabled, bro. Obviously, he's a little person. Hold on, he's not disabled. He's just short. Short ain't disabled. It's my boy, though. He's going to say disrespect. You ain't disabled. It ain't no disrespect. You know what it is, man. He's trying to use you, gang. The whole time he's been calling you short, calling him big That's a complex Listen, for everybody watching this, do you have a complex?

26:27This is a real serious question A lot of times he kept on calling you little, saying he big Right, and why he talking like you getting put down How does that make you feel? I don't take, no, I don't take it as like he disrespecting me No, I don't You used to be calling you little Yeah, little, mishy, all that I don't, you know, I don't care about I know who I am at the end of the day, you know But, listen, for everybody watching this There's a lot of people that's just big and they can't even get enough conscious self whatever that word I'm looking for self what's that word I'm looking for confidence they can't get enough self confidence to go out and do what you do so what gives a person as small as you this big ass confidence y 'all said it right confidence you know what that word mean cause I can know I said but you know what it mean right what give you that confidence to wake up everyday knowing that you little as shit Yeah, you got to be in this big ass world.

27:20That's affirmative. And you can't get out. No, I can get out. Come on. You're probably small enough to get out. But anyway, we'll talk about that later. But how does that feel on some real shit? Like for all the little people watching this, because all the little people watching this, and they little, and they in this big ass world, and they feeling fucked up. That little people shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm just trying to put air in my bubble, you know? Come on, gang. I'm just trying to, I'm just. I ain't gay gang. I keep saying it. I keep saying it. I don't want to put air in my bubble.

27:50Right? I want to help you. Right? I want to help you get some more confidence. Because you could have smacked the shit out of him right now. That's what I would have did. Because he kept calling you little, man. I want you to grow up. No, no. That's not on me. I ain't. Right. So what happened after? We're going to move right along. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's good. So pretty much, you know, we just kept going. Well, we was working together. You want to double up with me. What else happened? Double up. Double penetration? Nah. Just, you know, validate what I'm saying, though. Right. We was working together.

28:18We were working. Popped off, what, Worldstar? Worldstar a few times. Worldstar, right. We went viral. I was putting them in a grocery cart. I'm like, man, you can't keep up with me, man. You're too short. You know what I mean? It was some funny shit, right? It was some funny shit, yeah. And then I put them in people's grocery carts in Walmart. You feel me? Anybody can do that. So what you famous for? I'm just trying to figure out. I do music. I got 15 years experience with video. You're like a plus one. I got 15 years experience with video. I got my own shit. I got my own brand. I do music. I've been doing music for 10 years.

28:49But did anybody know about that before you got with him? Exactly, but it's cool, though. Did anybody know about that before you got with him? Yeah, they still do. I have my own. We had around the same followers. Oh, you ain't asking the question right. Did anybody know about that before you got with him? Did he update your app? Hell, I want to know. Did he update your app? We both updated each other. Oh, come on, gang. So, like, double penetration, like I said before. So, when you have sex with a woman from the back, he kind of, like, holds you up. We started around the same amount of followers.

29:12Oh, okay. And then he started taking off with the World Star, of course, because, you know, the way, you know, how he get down. Did you meet him through Big Bang? No, no. So how did y 'all meet? We kind of, like, skipped that part. Like, how did y 'all get together? We met each other on the gram. Phoenix, Arizona. On the gram? Listen, everybody watching this, I don't recommend that you meet somebody on the gram and you go be their friend. And this occasion is good, but in St. Louis, listen, that happened in the gram, we're going to say about this, that happened with somebody's son. He got a BBL.

29:42His son messed about the internet and they killed him. Yeah, you know, the guy from Chicago got the BBL. You from Illinois. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I don't know about it. Gay man Kevo. I mean, bad man Kevo. He got the BBL. His son died for the internet, meeting somebody on the internet. So meeting people on the internet is dangerous, right? And we don't represent that on no jumper. That's the coolest podcast, not the foolish podcast. It felt authentic, though. But let me tell you, how did y 'all do it? How did you meet somebody online and who slid or who DMed first? I reached out.

30:12I'm a TV 100. Are you the freak? No. I reached out. I was like, shit, what's up, Ray? You know what I mean? I was like, shit, I'm doing my comedy stuff. I'm getting my shit cracking. You know, I was doing music for a minute, but I've always been a silly type of dude, man. I'm just a cool type of tall, funny ass. Right. Right. And I always just kind of been like that. So I'm like, let me do some shit with Ray Meesey. You know what I mean? On some comedy ass shit. Let's do some movies. Let's get this digital back. I've been shooting videos in college and high school, doing the media productions, been on the news and shit.

30:42So I'm like, let me shape him up, try and get the video part on him. You know what I'm saying? We can start doing some acting, start doing some real shit. And what happened? You heard him, right? You heard him. Let me shape him up. So he comes out like he's bigging you up. You heard him, right? No, no, no. We're going to skip that part. Yeah, no. With the video. With the video. Oh, with the video. Okay, cool. We put something together today. Check out the skit today. We put something together today. I'm editing the little skits. Are you editing too? Yeah, I edit all this shit. I'm looking out for him.

31:09I wanted to show you a video that Damn my phone Let's just check this video out This is about your manager? My homie The bitch ass nigga Let's just see what he talk about Let me see the video My phone We still here You can pull that video up bro It's on the email I sent you a link It's a YouTube Y 'all trying to get some views? I seen you grab it What's the time stamp you want? Which one you want? When did he start saying it? No, I was talking when he was like, I was dealing with the message. Yeah, so when was that? In the beginning, middle, end? It's 34 minutes long. Oh, we can't listen to that.

31:49No, no, no, no. I'm sorry. Say what he said. He said, I was dealing. But if you can see the screen, pull the screen up for the interview. It's tested. He paid to go on. That's the interview. When he first started. Yeah. How he first, yeah, when he first started, he's like, I was dealing with this little midget. That's who scams you. Yeah. By Donovan. The one that did the scam with bullshit. So he the bitch ass. No, over cornball. Like, over. Man, I need that run back, man. We're going to have to get in the boxing ring. I'm going to catch that fade with you. You a bitch. And when I see you, it's like that.

32:24Yeah. Oh, is that? Yeah, that part. Because homeboy ran up, you know what I mean? He ran up on me at the court. Nigga stole on me low key. Oh, you beat your ass already? He kind of stole on me. What'd you do? You just laughed like. I'm going to keep it real. We was battling. I was defending him. I was defending him. Well, you ain't fight back. I was defending him. We was defending him. You ain't fight back. You got your ass whooped. What? I was doing my best, nigga. Doing your best to what? You didn't fight back. You didn't throw a punch. What you talking about? This nigga already whooped your ass.

32:50Get rid of him. No, it ain't. It wasn't that. I ain't getting knocked out or nothing. But he punched you. You ain't punched back. You know what I mean? I had to do what I had to do. What? When he punched you, what you do? I'm shooting the video. I'm shooting the video And he pushed the shit out It's like Tap back Turn around You kept shooting the video And I had to get down You got scared Nah man Ain't nobody scared We ain't turning it down Homie We ain't turning it down So did I fade? We fade We ran a fade You know what I'm saying But it was some cheap The way he did it was some cheap shit He clipped the video And then he kept reposting it For two years after that Did I run a fade that moment?

33:22We ran a fade as soon as I Did you lose the fade? I would say I would say I would say I lost the fade bro I'm going to be real I'm going to be real So why are you still talking? I'm going to be real But if you went to Jazz once Why were you still talking? I don't recommend that It was cheap though No They win I don't recommend you Fight again No Except your loss I was 170 230 No dang Except your loss Running up on me bro I turned around It is what it is They can say whatever they want I still got out Everybody at the video shoot Knew what it was But you got your ass beat I didn't get my ass beat You said you lost He just put his weight up on me.

33:58What's up? I mean, I'm... It ain't nobody... I mean, I'm... He don't reshare the video. I already know he gonna... So how many punches was thrown? I was like... How many punches was thrown? How many punches was thrown? I don't even remember. How many did he connect with? How many times did he hit you? He didn't... I seen a knot on his head. How many times did he connect with you? Shit, I don't even really know, bro. So many times you just lost count. It was just... It was so quick, nigga. Like 15 seconds. Come on, gang. I ain't know nothing. I ain't know nothing. So... I ain't know nothing. So y 'all fighting And then so I don't recommend y 'all fight again though But it's cool bro And at the end of the day Niggas thought I wasn't gonna do What I had to do And I You know at the end of the day I wasn't running from nothing Had to do what You know what I mean But at the end of the day I see him He talking crazy on me In the DMs and stuff I got receipts of that Nigga you crazy for that bro You know you a clown for that And you trying to And then you On Wallow and Gilly You got your ass knocked out On Wallow and Gilly Boxing But he knocked you out though It don't matter Nigga, we can get back in the ring.

34:58Give me the run back, homie. No. F*** you me. I'm 215 now. You feel me? I'm not playing with that shit, bro. But if you lose once, you're going to lose again. Nah, nigga, it's not like that. Feel me? I got heart. And if that's what it is, that's what it is, nigga. You got heart, but you need to be smart. You think it's time for smart instead of heart? Why would you keep fighting if you know you're going to lose? Bro, you know what I mean? To be real, I don't even feel like I lost. It was just one of them things. Come on, gang. I don't feel like you lost. It was one of them things like you get tapped on the shoulder.

35:25My boy seen it. One of my OG kind of niggas. Are you delusional? Nah, man. Fuck that. Are you delusional in this bitch? You delusional as hell? You don't know you got your ass whooped when you got your ass whooped. That's what you're telling me. Be honest with me, bro. You got your ass whooped when you want to admit it. Nah, man. I didn't. The only thing is, it's like you turn around and a nigga get up on you like that. Nah, I'm going to say I lost the game. What's wrong with that? Okay, it's cool. Whatever. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with that? Okay, man. you beat my ass and ask him to give you another shot cause when you lose you gotta ask for another shot we can range that we got celebrity fights we trying to get for extra to fight Kane Peel right now that's why we're here we trying to get for extra to fight Kane Peel right now for no jumping we started a boxing match I don't know about that yeah whoever lose get whoever win get 50 ,000 I don't know about that shit that shit's crazy that's the rules listen yo that shit crazy we can put you up to fight him but you gotta kinda like look at the camera right now we gonna do it look at the camera right now and tell him you lost and ask for another fight.

36:22He knows what the fuck it is. He clipped half the video because he knew I was doing my shit too. You lost though. He tried to make it seem like he... Bro, he know he clipped the video. But you know you lost. It's like you're more to the shit. What? Look at the camera and just say, look, I lost. Please give me another... Fuck you, White Dolemite. You a bitch. No, White Dolemite. He's like... He's like going down. Why would you fight again when you already lost? What do you mean? Not making no sense, gang. So go back to him, man. Yeah, go back to him. So y 'all had a... What did he say? You know what I'm saying?

36:51So he did all that, right? So I'm like, and that's for me defending him, right? For how shysty he was doing him. Because he was doing him shysty. What was he doing? No, he just like did some backdoor shit. He was just. I'm from backdoor city, right? Niggas backdoor me all the time. So I'm standing up and I catch a faith for standing up. No, it's just the principle that, you know what I'm saying? Like, because he got blackballed. You know, he did. How did he get blackballed? What happened with that? No, he said he's from Chicago. He said he's from Chicago. He ain't from Chicago. No, he from Rockford, Illinois.

37:22Yeah, that ain't Chicago. No, I know, but outside of, you know what I'm saying? But he was dealing with Kanye West and them, you know what I'm saying? He's still posting them. The whole time, he backdoled them and did some. Oh, he probably was fucking with Kanye West. I don't know what he did, but, you know, but he like, in so many words, he like backdoled me, you know what I'm saying? I don't like that, for real. To get to where he at now. Even though I don't do it for the clout. So when he took your channel, did he start posting on your channel immediately or what did he do with your channel once he took it?

37:53It's right there. Like, can he play? Yeah, he's going to play. Let me see what this bitch-ass nigga did. Nah, for real. Like, even doing the pranks. Helping somebody. Love. It was a little person. We call him Midget. He's a little person. A little person. Get started, like, even doing the pranks. Helping somebody. It was a little person. We call him Midget where we from. You know what I'm saying? But he's a little person. helping him get out here with his content and behind the scenes more giving concepts. My son, you know what I'm saying? Helping with concepts and stuff for him. Got him posted on Worldstar, built his following.

38:29They got lazy. I kept going. And that was it, to be honest with you. A cell phone idea. That's what's up, man. So where you from, bro? I'm not saying really sales is valid. but I think like in every situation somebody else got a valid point that need to be heard oh bro that's where we're open to it bro he had good ideas bro and that's what I'm saying it's like we was all working together bro it was love right oh yeah no no we was all working together he had good ideas and stuff but I just felt like it got a little sour when we started getting it going me and Ray Measy a little bit and he kind of got a little bit jealous I feel like so what made it go wrong when you started getting more clout than him that kind of like made it like go like I was the one with the ideas it was my whole shit It was my whole thing.

39:15It ain't about, it's about, I trusted him, you know what I'm saying? Like, he knew everything, he knew the assets to all my shit, like my bank, he took my money off. He took money too? How much money did he take from you? He paid my money back though. That's fucked up. It's just the principle, like, I'm like, I'm fucked with you. You trusted him. Let's get some money. And, like, no, he just like did some fucked up shit to me. You know what's crazy? It ain't about the likes and the views, the Instagram, it's about, what he did what he did to me I don't care about that shit you know what I'm saying I don't care I really don't care about that shit right and what was your feeling like like when it first happened like what was your immediately like your first thought like being somebody that you know what was you like thinking like damn it could have been like you could have asked me right like I would have gave it to you type shit like hey you ain't gotta backdoe me and then like cause it was like bothering him and then he told my mans right and my mans like man And he told him because it was bothering him.

40:17Instead of him telling me, he told my homie, not him, but my homie. And my homie told me, like, damn, ooh. Like, he feel like he want to split apart because of what he did to me. Right, right. What did you say his reasons for that was? Like, what kind of excuse did he give you? Yeah, what's the motive behind it? Yeah, did he tell you? I don't know. I really don't know. So it was like he said jealousy, maybe? all types of shit. To be honest, bro, I'm a very smart person. He felt like he put a lot of work in, bro. He put a lot of work in helping us. You know what I'm saying? Did he put a lot of work in?

40:54He gave some good ideas, bro. He gave some good ideas, and some of the ideas took off. But it's like, why be cocky about it? Why try and steal the show? Because, you know what I mean? We're a team, bro. And I felt like he's like, y 'all wouldn't do this because of me. You feel me? And it's like, bro, we all working. And I get you had good ideas, but come on, bro. I've been trending. I've been trending on Facebook and all that shit, bro. Like, I've been, you know what I'm saying? He reached out to me, you know what I'm saying? Right. So is he still trending now on social media? Oh, he doing his thing.

41:26He doing his thing. As well as you still trending now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm with you. So both of y 'all just kind of like don't need each other, but. No, it's just that he said that he put me on. He put me in a position that, like, he using people in so many words. So he went around using everybody. He don't want to get this prank on Wack when, like, boy, when he kept on calling him boy and stuff. Right. So everything he do basically is a prank, like, nothing is serious. Like, no, he doing his shit. No, he ain't no hater or nothing. He doing his shit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he popping it, bro.

42:00He doing his shit. He doing his shit. We're not coming for that. We're going to get it out the mud. We're going to get it out the mud. I ain't trying to skip the line. I ain't trying to cheat. I ain't trying to finesse. We taking the long route. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to. We taking the righteous route. You know what I'm hearing? I'm trying to change the vibration. I want to earn it. We trying to change it with love, right? So I think the best thing y 'all can do right now is to kill vibration and send them out love and we can keep on going up. I think that'd be the best thing because it sounds like he took something from you as well as you probably, you know, got some information from him and y 'all both using the information well.

42:34You end up in no jumper. He on off the porch. break good platforms. I don't think nobody should be able to hold bitterness. I don't understand. You're 100 about that, bro. I was just keeping it real. That's the best thing. He always fought him and beat his ass. That's over. That's good. That's over. That's good. With you, he didn't hold you back. When he got on that... We're still going to get in the ring, though. It was just that. He didn't say my name. He did. He said the midget. He said the midget, but he didn't say my name. That's you. Say my name. say my name with nobody around you. Say, baby, I love you.

43:10Don't say it with me. Don't do that. That's gay. What you mean that's gay? I seen you the other day on the mother's camera like this. He was like, that ain't gay. That ain't gay. I'll be in the spirit. That don't be me. I can't touch you after you just did that. I'll be in the spirit, though. Listen, so that happened, and we just took a long time to talk about that, but that's over. but what do you do from here? Like, where do you go from here? Like, what are your plans for the future? I mean, you probably can't see that far. Can you see that far? Yes. So what's your plan for the future? Like, how are you going to update your app some more?

43:49Keep pushing for greatness. You know what I'm saying? Come on, talk to the mic. I know, I know, I know. I know it's hard. Keep pushing for greatness and keep going, you know? And if I vibrate the right way around certain individuals or know we can go from there. Vibrate. What that mean? Because a lot of people don't know. You said a word that people don't know. I mean, people don't know. And I'm not allowed to talk about it on no jumper. So I really wish you would. I mean, like, I can walk in a room and people will gravitate to me. Like, oh, man, you know. They gonna gravitate towards you anyway.

44:28I'm just keeping it real. They gonna do it anyway. Yeah, like, you know, like, I'm very... This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So you were scrolling on Marketplace, and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message, and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew. Well, a community cycling group. The thing about Facebook, you might find more than what you're looking for. From a browse to a bike ride, this summer, find more on Facebook. This episode is brought to you by Palmolive. Family time isn't just the big moments.

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46:06I haven't seen a lot of shit, so I just played my part. So you're traumatized. You know what I'm saying? All types of shit, bro. I won't call it traumatized. I like to call it a word that a lot of people are not familiar with. You should cover the pain up, you know? You're trying to cover the pain up. No, I've seen it. Been through a lot of shit. So what's something that you've seen that got you like that? What's something that you've seen that you know that, like, damn, got you like that? Been in a lot of, you know? Talk on the mic. I've been in a lot of situations, shootouts and all types. Tell us about that.

46:36Who will shoot at you? Nah, just where I'm at. You're like gang shit? So explain to you what happened. What will happen in the shootout with you? Nah, it's just being around certain. But everybody's shooting up. The bullets ain't coming down. You should be good. Wasn't you good in the shootout, though? Wasn't you good? Listen, I swear to God, Mama. And this is a real story. I'm not lying. I'm not. Listen, St. Louis is a midget. His name is Lil Hab. I said it before. But he do everything. He shoot, kill, all that shit. Because he never got hit by the bullets. We take him to the shots and just let him out the car.

47:14He just kill everybody. I'm humble. I don't be on nothing. I just be telling. But you didn't say you was in a shootout and if you traumatized, then you said you're humble. I'm talking about just like. You humble when you let that bitch go? What you talking about? I'm a street nigga. I'm talking about just being around, just all types of stuff. Just being around the violence kind of mess you up. Just being violent where I'm from, yeah. Yeah, and that's kind of like what I'm saying. That kind of like messes everybody up. And I don't think people understand that, right? When you raise an environment like that and like constantly violence, all that, it's kind of like hard to get it out of your system.

47:45No, for real. Right? But it seems like you did. I just want to be on a serious note. How is that possible? How do you take all them years of being in that cycle and get yourself out of there and become successful? Because it takes a lot to do this. A lot of people don't know. You can say you're a comedian. You can say, hey, I'm looking. But it takes a lot to do this. You got to have tough skin. You got to deal with people like me. You got to do it. But it's like, how do you change? I want to know. Just for the people watching. The people you surround yourself around. You know what I'm saying? Like, you be around mediocre people.

48:18You going to be around. You going to say you going to. You going to some mediocre shit. I want to surround myself around greatness. Like, there's greatness right here. this like opportunity somebody probably see me and be like oh I want to put you in a show or some type of shit yeah I'm thinking that right now just anything like you know like it's all types of ways all types of loopholes to get through you know we just got you on the mice right there because we keep telling you to move up and then every second you're going back you got like a problem with your memory no no no no no I just you know I think a lot you know if you think a lot you got to think let me keep this up let me stay up here at the table so I can see you know you already a little person.

48:55So when you back there, we really ain't gonna hurt you. Nah, for real. I'm just keeping it real, guys. You gotta kind of like keep it up there like this. Or maybe you can help him. You help him with everything else. Nah, nah, I don't care. Are you good? I mean, you can hold somebody. That ain't getting me. That's my boy. Yeah, so you can hold him. No, that's the good part. Let me get the rest of that good part. Yeah, there's no jumper. Listen, listen. So out of everybody you work with, what's the most craziest experience you've ever had working with people? Like the most shocking, like, damn. Like they couldn't believe you was that tall in person.

49:23something like that you probably look bigger in person you probably bigger in that they probably think you smaller but I know you look bigger in person so what was that like who you met that you looked bigger in person they're like damn I ain't know you was that big nigga

49:41boosted like that I ain't know you was that big nigga damn I thought you was a little nigga but you really a big nigga boosted like that I ain't gonna say cap nah so anybody that met you like you was big in person cause I see on the J-Maine so you're looking really small. You look big in person. Oh, yeah. I'm me. I'm me. No, I'm keeping it real, gang. You look bigger in person. Like, it's no joke. Yeah, yeah. On J-Man, you look smaller, but you look bigger in person. Do you get that a lot? Like, people, like, you look bigger in person? You know, everybody's lens is different, you know? No, with me, I swear to God, like, you look bigger in person.

50:11Like, damn, you look a hell of a small, but, like, in person, you ain't really that small. Like, what's the average height of a midget? Like, what qualified person as a midget? Like what size you got to be? Oh, I never paid attention to that. So you don't know you're a real midget. I'm 3 '11". So you might not be real. No, I'm real. How do you know if you don't know the size? What's the size of a real midget? So we know. I don't want to title this wrong. I'm 3 '11". 3 '7", like what? 4 '4". I'm 3 '11". Right. 4 '9", that's like the minimum. Oh, you're a midget, gang. You real. I'm a GDBD Vice, though.

50:43It'd be fake. I'm a real GDBD Vice, though. I'm like, oh, you fake. I'm gonna make sure you ain't faking. A lot of motherfuckers be like, like, you know, Aaron the Plubber. He fake like he's six foot, but he really a midget. Tell a lot of people don't know he a little bitty ass midget, but he act like he's six foot. You ain't got a, you that size. How's it getting girls though? Like do you date girls bigger than you or normally your size? I date girls. Bigger than you or normally your size? I met a girl that she was like six, five, six, like six, five, nine. How that work? Come on, how that work?

51:14How that work?

51:18What? She pick you up and just put She pick you up and just Flam you with that motherfucker Ooh, that probably feel good You ain't gotta do nothing I was a midget No, she like No, no, no, no, I control everything How? No, how? How? How? How? How? How you climb that tree and bring it down? How? She get on her knees. She get on her knees. I was supposed to go. What's up, playing with me? Oh, GD. Hey, he not playing. So how do you approach a woman bigger than you? How do you know, like, yeah, I can take her down? Literally. Yeah, literally. I scan her barcode. That barcode shit again. So when you scan her barcode, you know that she's like.

52:09I know what's for me. I know what's official. No, I examine it. I like, you know. For everybody watching this, I just want to ask one question. For a big woman to have sex with you, what be her fantasy? What does she tell you when she pick you? I know they got to tell you, it got to be her fantasy. Fun side, like, like fun side, like, are you good at giving head? Is you good at giving head? What do you mean, giving head like standing up? Right, type of shit. Or, you know, I say shit, you, you know. So you know for giving head standing up? I do my thing, but no, like, You know, I just, you know.

52:48I'm going to go pick you up like tissue and shit. Like, how that work? Nah, they get down on their knees. You ain't going for that bitch pick you up. You smack yourself that bitch up. Nah, just, you know.

53:03I'm good.

53:11I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just imagine. Listen, for everybody watching this, you will fall out too. Just imagine a bitch picking him up and him just smacking him to get down. That's what I saw in my head before I fell out. I saw him, that's a beautiful sight. Oh, my God. Everybody should try that for real. I saw that.

53:34They're going to fire me. I'm sorry. I got to conduct a good interview. Listen, I'm sorry. They're going to fire me. I probably fired already, but they ain't paying me already. But before, listen. What were we talking about? I forgot. What was that? Cause that part just fucked me up The picking you up part Yeah that shit knocked me the fuck out Yeah but On a woman right So How is it like Do y 'all like Do y 'all like I'm just trying to figure it out Do you say that Look I like you or Like how did that work I'm just trying to figure out After you scan the barcode How do you approach her That's what I'm trying to figure out How do you approach her Like I approach her Yeah like Like normal Like regular Like Oh what's up It ain't awkward You don't feel You gotta take a lot of confidence You got a lot of confidence Yeah I got confidence So you ain't talking about Money or none of that You coming up like Straight what's up I shoot my shot But if I don't want to wrestle With a Then you say a little money What's up Let me get back there Get back there When you get back there You stay back there Yeah let me get back there Let me see what that do So you punish some shit Damage some shit You damage shit Yeah Whole body and that shit Leg everything I line that ass Arm leg leg Arm head I'm I'm doing my thing Right yeah Yeah So So you with the lady six feet That's kind of crazy Cause I never even She like She like five nine Like she She up there What y 'all break up for?

54:56She start f***ing with him Cause he big He backdoor How y 'all break up? Nah he ain't backdoor How y 'all break up That ain't my stealer I know I'm just joking How y 'all break up? Nah Nah I just gotta watch the episode Jared Springer y 'all broke up on Jerry Springer nah that was the story but most of it was like so again what you got next after no jumper like what you got playing I seen the list of people you work with name them like everybody you work with because a lot of people know who you is and I'm really trying to like help you get back after losing them 400 ,000 followers and we kind of like want to give you notoriety but to do that they gotta know who all you work with so if you can't just tell them who all you work with

55:40if you remember who all did you work with like in this not working at all Boosie Radio Tyler Perry Radio Never Satisfied Debo Debo the real Debo the real Debo whoa shout out to Phoenix shout out to Phoenix Arizona shout out to Phoenix Arizona that's where we did it at shout out Phoenix Arizona long live Debo how they work how you hook up with Debo um Lolo's, right? Lolo's. Lolo's. Lolo's. Shout out to Lolo's. Lolo's. Chicken and Waffles. Chicken and Waffles. Chicken and Waffles. You met him up there? No, they reached out to us. They wanted y 'all to do something together? Yeah. And Monroe's Chicken.

56:20We collaged like that. After that, y 'all had a good relationship. What was our relationship like? No, it wasn't like, it was like, the owner knew him, so they was like locked in, so he told me to push up on them, and that's how I met Deebo. After that, you and Deebo hang out? What was y 'all like? No, no, it wasn't nothing like that. Just one time y 'all did something? We walked, yeah. We walked in there like a one-time thing, like a, yeah. I had the energy work. So after that, he didn't call you? He didn't talk no more, none of that? No. We was talking right there, right then. After that, he didn't talk to you no more?

56:55No. So Deebo fake and shit then? I don't know about all that. If he ain't talk to you no more, he got to be fake. Rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. Why you say rest in peace if he ain't talk to you no more? No, he passed away. I mean, they don't mean nothing. Listen, so you think that everybody that died, we got to show love even if they hate you? I mean, they got a balance. He showed love to us. He did hate you. He didn't show love after. He showed love in that moment because he got paid. So I was going to say, was that love or was that payment? This nigga. I just want to know, was that love or was that payment?

57:25Because my viewers watching, I want to know, was that love? I'm showing you real love right now. I ain't got to pay the dime. So I want to know, was that love or was that payment? But after this, I'm going to still support you because I love you. I want the streets to understand what love is and what payment is so they won't know the difference I'm not saying we gotta say we love them but if he ain't love us we gotta understand you ain't love me and we gotta know what love is cause I love y 'all for real and after this we gonna still we gonna spread the vibration of love we gonna raise vibrational up and no jumper we gotta raise you up to get you some back in that porn department with Adam when you do porn can you ever see yourself doing porn cause I think midget porn will go up Yeah Your midget porn will go up You ever think about doing some midget porn?

58:05I never got into it like that But I got videos of my females and shit I never got into that The porn The porn You got big enough meat for it? That's personal questions I want to know I'm interviewing you for porn I'm not gay, gang I want to know if it's big enough Big enough Come on person lady succeed Everybody wanna know this is everybody was seen before but nobody said a midget So I'm just trying to know is you big enough. I'm trying to interview you for the department. I'm not gay I'm a street Yeah, you I don't know how to explain it like this long is this why right how long is it? How long was his model?

58:57It touched girls hearts It touched their heart It touched their heart You got like a long mother How you pee How you pee Clear bigger than you Know what you saying Where the ladies at Oh come on gang Man you telling me that men can't sit around And have conversations like this I want to I'm not for the point about I'm trying to do a job. I wasn't trying to do a bullshit I draw I draw what you're saying. Yeah, I ain't gay gang I don't know everybody confused about this shit. I ain't gay gay everybody's in before But I'm not gay cuz I got asked about to cut that point out But I'm not gay gang. I don't do that I draw I draw I draw I'm just saying like if you like you be because of shit up like the day bitch me faking or you really be killing somebody that we try not try to figure out I'm not trying to find a side is like that.

59:54I'm just I damn shit. Like, you small, but... You know what I'm saying? I'm not on no... Gang, I swear to God, I'm not on no... I know what you're saying. I'm just trying to say, do you punish? Are you the punisher? I get what you're saying. Because, like, no, Diddy had the punisher. Yeah, but it come down to it. Can you clap those? Yeah, what I'm saying? Are you the punisher? I'm going to keep it real. You know what I'm saying? I'm not on no game. My nigga Ray Measy be around some thick... You know what I'm saying? Some thick kicks, you know? Bounce around them asses. I want to know do you put that shit down.

1:00:25He gave me some gay shit. I said, do we clap shit down? My nigga be around some cakes like that. I'm like, everybody watching this, I send a nigga in that with fucking ass bigger than him. That's why I asked this question, gay. Like, what the fuck size your is there? I clap shit. Yeah, you gotta clap shit, but I ain't no gay shit, gay. I'm sorry. I'm wrong with what you're saying. That's probably a question people want to ask when they see you with a big woman. Like, damn. We can get her because she's probably not satisfied. She had to answer that question. That's what a nigga gonna think like, oh man, I can probably get her because he ain't satisfied.

1:00:59I know he ain't packing. I mean, this ain't gay, but every nigga in this motherfucker think you got a little automatically. So if you got a woman, we automatically think we can take her. No, that's gonna have to be the female. But evidently, it don't work because you have big right? So if then, you do your thing. So I want to know gay shit. So let you know that, right? There's no jumping. I don't want to, I don't want to act like, like I'm like Adam because I'm not. I'm just really just concerned. Like, how do you do it? Right. Right. Listen, but what you got coming up next? Because, like, that's kind of like an awkwardly.

1:01:31He kind of, like, think I'm gay. No, you're good. I didn't think that. I didn't think that. Right. So, you know, what I got going, I got an album out. It's called Reality. You know what I mean? It's 12 songs. You know what I mean? I just, I've been pushing stuff. I got music coming out. I'm going to be working with him, managing him a lot, getting him in a position to win out here, man. You know what I mean? We're accepting all kind of, you know what I mean, different type of collaborations with companies, businesses, whatever. People want to work with him, you know what I'm saying? He's out here in L.A.

1:02:02now, you know what I'm saying? He's in L.A.? Yeah, I just— Listen, I got a content house out here. I wouldn't mind having you out there, bro. It's outside of no jumper, but I think that we can help your management and we can help you really get to where you're trying to go. So I think you need to talk to me after this. Okay. Like, all boys should decide. Right. But look, how you going to manage them? You going to tell them to come to my contract? I mean, all that bullshit. How you going to get all this? How you going to take all this position? Right. I'm going to put them in the right positions to win, like even right now.

1:02:34You know what I'm saying? Getting them out here, getting this type of exposure. You know what I'm saying? I feel like since I've been out here with my film company, I was able to build all these connections. You know what I mean? There you go, Gary. We got to end this thing. I told you about that I asked you this is the way this is the way he's here this is the way he's here shout out to Mikey though promote him then shout out to him talk about update your app we good with him we try to help him get his shit back you telling me how I'm gonna do it how you gonna do it without doing it with you do it for him you keep on talking about what you gonna do for you listen I wanna do it for you listen after this let me listen we're on the development gang let me develop you up we can manage you gang that's what I want we can keep him too keep him on right but we are like help him but I swear to God mama it's you that's making it go up cause like When I see the Internet, the small people, everything is unusual, whatever they click on.

1:03:22Right. So if it wasn't for you, I don't think that people will click on that. I'm not saying you bring the bulk of it, but I'm saying on your own, you can do a whole lot. Right. Just for your parents. Your parents is a blessing by God. You got to know how to use it. Right. You think you're smaller, but you're bigger than everybody. Right. Because you're going to make everybody look. Right. That's why you can get a woman six foot. Because you're going to bring you is that light in the room because you is that a usual thing. But that usual thing is not bad. It's really good. Right. Do a whole lot of playing, but I want you to know that, bro.

1:03:49And I'll work with you because I know you special, right? You blessed with something. Anybody that got to walk with something like that in this world, this whole world big and come out successful like you, it's a round of applause. Yeah, that's what Scratch was telling me. Yeah, it's a round of applause because that's a big thing. It's a big achievement, right? A lot of people can't do it. I know niggas six foot and they bitch ass. They can't do nothing. So let's big up for that, right? So tell these people where to find you at, how to see you, and what you got coming, right? Because I know you got a lot of shit coming because you don't like you stopping, game.

1:04:19Oh, yeah. This your boy Ray Meesey. Missing me a lot to Rockfell. I know it's, you know, my Instagram. R-A-Y-M-E-E-Z-Y underscore N-A-S-R-A-Y-M-E-E-Z. You know? I'll let you promote. We let the little people promote. I mean, we let you promote. We ain't going to let him promote. Shout out to my boy Scratch Lex, man. He tuned me in with No Jumper. Shout out to, you know, Mr. No Jumper. You know, Adam, hopefully I'll see you one day. Madam. Madam. Adam. Madam. Madam. Madam. No. Madam 22. Madam 22. Log in. Update your ass. Shout out to everybody out there, you know what I'm saying, from his hometown.

1:04:56You know what I mean? Rockfellow North, y 'all. But we didn't interview you. We're going to let you do this one time. Don't break the rules. Shout out to, you know what I'm saying, everybody back at my hometown, Phoenix, Arizona. You know what I'm saying? That's where we coming from. I'm going to bring everybody through. You already know. Hey, it's got to get, how we coming in, right? Yeah. But we're going to pave the way. You feel me? So that's what it is. Tell him you ain't fighting no more. Tell him you're not fighting no more. If a nigga try me, shit, I'm ready. Nigga, I'm in the gym. Shit, I'm working out.

1:05:26I'm not looking for nothing. But shit, stay ready. She ain't got to get ready. Boom, GD. Listen, thank y 'all for tuning in to No Jumper, man. For more content like this, make sure you like, share, and subscribe. And remember, man, no matter what obstacle you're faced with, you got to face it. So you might as well face it. I swear to God, my mama, No Jumper. the coolest podcast on GDB device, Lord, on Larry David. Stop playing with me. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects.

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