Rich Rabbit on Being Black from a Mexican Gang, Falling Out with his Hood & More

39:19So we just went up there, went to like a random floor, sat there all day, watched like court cases, people get sentenced, released, whatever the case, woop-dee-woop. And he just told me like at the end, like, if you keep doing the shit you're doing, like you're going to end up in here one day. Yeah. And I still ended up in there. Yeah, but I mean, there is a feeling that you get when you're like in court and you're thinking about the thing that you did that got you to court and you're like how could i possibly have thought that that was worth this because being in court sucks so bad having the prospect of jail or like a big ass fine or whatever it might be hanging over your head is just so shitty that like i think of it from like the perspective of when i was in high school and i got arrested for fucking graffiti and shit but it's like like how did writing my name on the wall seem like it was worth me being in here at this moment i feel like that's obviously probably magnified by like a lot of worse charges but yeah like because you know most people who are like committing crimes and shit aren't really like thinking about how shitty the actual uh vibe of having to go to court and having to go to jail or whatever is shit to be honest any going to jail for anything is like a fucked up experience and you'd be surprised like a lot of dudes records ain't started off with like no murders and robberies and shit a lot of people didn't went to jail for some dumb ass shit.

40:40Definitely. I mean, I remember I got, I did 24 hours in the jail in Manhattan in New York and it was like, by the time I got done that, I was just like I don't think I'm ever going to break the law again. And obviously I did, but like not like in any. I feel like everybody tell themselves that until you get out and it's like, shit back to normal program. Yeah, but like honestly, that really did scare the fucking, it didn't scare me straight but it's just realizing how much shit i'm used to on the outside like being able to drink as much clear clean water as you want being able to eat a reasonable amount of food or like food that you consider healthy or like good you know i just like that 24 hours was so shitty sleeping on the ground with my fucking shoe as a pillow and shit i was just like even though like obviously i'm not trying to compare that to like what people have really gone through have even been in jail for like a year or a couple months or whatever but it really just like let me know like buddy you're not cut out for this like you you gotta stay out because this this ain't for you oh yeah low key even me like that's probably like why i stopped even indulging in crimes and shit like i just felt like bro this shit is a waste of time like i'm not finna get nowhere with this getting arrested and i can't talk to people that look like me like it ain't no problem with But it's like for me to get comfortable with this over time, like, hell no, I need freedom.

42:04Yeah. You go to jail. I got to just stick with the Hispanics. I can't talk to my people as much. You got to wake up every day, work out, walk a certain way because this side is for the blacks, this for the Hispanics, all that shit. Like, it's cool. Not cool, but like it'll get you by for a while. But then I don't know why I want to live like that. yeah well that was one thing i'll say about doing this podcast is that i interview a lot of people who talk about going to prison for a year or a couple months like it's so not a big deal that like i feel like if i were to end up in that kind of situation it wouldn't be as like devastating mentally because i've kind of heard so many people talk about it whereas like the other day i was like around a bunch of normal ass like white valley parents or whatever and they were talking about somebody who got like like six months for like some white collar crime or something somebody that they knew and they were talking about it like it was the end of the world to an extent where i was like i'm kind of glad that i've been doing this podcast for so long because the situation this guy got himself in does not really sound that bad to me at this point you know no yeah have you ever been in jail for something just that 24 hours in new york which was for the dumbest shit ever too it was like at a party and one of my friends was like drunk trying to impress a girl and we're on like the 34th floor of this like really really tall nice apartment building because we were just partying at this girl's house and this dude starts whipping beer bottles out the window and one of them hits a fucking taxi cab on the windshield and breaks it so it's like a two-story apartment which is like kind of unheard of in new york it's like that basically means it's like a super nice place and i'm like downstairs with this girl just chatting her up on the couch and i see fucking flashlights getting pointed through the window and i go look and there's like 10 cop cars down there and they raided the whole apartment and no i told every my criminal mastermind i uh told everybody like don't snitch don't don't tell on the girls that we're with because if we tell them the girls we're not gonna be able to stay here i'm like they can't arrest all nine of us and then they arrested all nine of us but we only did 24 hours it's like pretty whatever i am kind of glad they didn't tell them just because the the principle but But, you know, would have been cool to just blame it on the girls.

44:20Yeah. So you just went to, like, processing? Yeah, but it took, like, 24 hours. And then I had to go to court a couple times. And, you know, they just had no case. Because, like, how the fuck are you going to prove who was throwing bottles out the window? Type shit, yeah. But they knew that, too. And that's why they wanted to fuck with us. Because they knew that they weren't going to really be able to put a case on us. So they just arrested us and whatever. But, yeah, definitely was, like, around some really weird dudes. Just like even having to just take a shit while you're staring at a room of like 40 dudes in there was just a really strange experience.

44:51Having to sit down to piss. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of that. Just like a lot of like, damn, I'm taking a piss and like a lot of people could be looking at my dick right now. Like just from the side. Like, yeah, it was a weird awkward moments. It was a weird vibe. Yeah. But OK, so I forget what we're with. OK, so when did you start deciding you wanted to like focus more on social media? because I feel like you kind of like approached it in a different way than a lot of people might. You know, a lot of people just out here doing podcasts or live streaming by themselves. And you kind of are more focused on the short form side of things.

45:27Yeah, because I feel like that give more engagement and like eyes on it. People share it more because long form content is definitely cool when you monetize and you got like interest in stuff that people want to see. But for the most part, I feel like short form content, it like puts you out there and people eyes faster if you're trying to like build a fan base faster. No, definitely. And that's one thing I always like noticed about No Jumper is that like I put all these people on and like a lot of them just kind of become live streamers where they just sit on live stream for hours and hours and hours and like basically just try to monetize whatever fans they got from No Jumper.

46:06which to me is like if you want to become like a big name that's not really the way to do it like short form content is basically like how you get discovered by people and then live streaming is how you kind of live stream and podcasting youtube whatever it's kind of how you like make more profit off of like a hardcore fan base but you're not going to really grow your fan base unless you like focus on the short form side of things and then like rap was kind of like oversaturated so i'm like let me start like around with the content because i've watched y 'all all them back on Fid Community, all the different shits.

46:38Everybody upload on their phones, Spodefade. So it's like, let me get in here and see where I fit in. I started f***ing around, to be honest. And it kind of, I got more engagement. I got further with that in like six months to a year than I did damn near like however long I've been doing music. Right. And music is like, people don't realize, but it's expensive. It's like really is difficult to like turn a profit making music unless you get to a pretty big level. And then a lot of artists, when you're younger, you're first coming up, you got a lot of people willing to help because they feel like they see the potential then.

47:12But after a while, like a year passed, two, three, like, all right, we putting all this money, effort, even just physically coming out. Like, when is shit going to blow? Yeah. People slowly start to like fizzle away from that shit. So you got to find something to gravitate towards too. Yeah, because like a lot of people get this bump from just being new and it's just interesting. like who's this guy we want to know about him like we're gonna listen to some of his music to see what his whole deal is and then fast forward a couple years if it doesn't take off it's like then the only way for you to really get attention from there is to basically just make good music and that's obviously a lot more difficult than just being new and you know like all the time I'll see a new rapper on YouTube and I'll click it just because I'm kind of fascinated oh where are they from why is he dressed like that like what's his deal like what kind of shit is he talking about who he's got issues with etc and like fast forward two years like i'll probably know the answers to those questions and i just won't even really care about seeing his shit unless he prospers into being a bigger or you know somebody who's actually making good shit that you want to listen to regardless of the the lore you know yeah yeah um so what about like the the trunk series because i feel like that's kind of as much as that is kind of like low effort content it just feels like that's the shit that's really grabbed people that like that i just keep hearing people mention and when i interviewed blanco the other day he said that he was the first person to get that treatment was it it was either him or p face one of them yeah and for the people that don't know like basically what i'm describing on his instagram he'll like take a clip of somebody rapping objectively bad or doing something corny and then he'll put a clip of him like slamming the trunk on him afterwards you might have to see it to understand people think it's a trunk is actually like a trash can oh okay one day i was just taking the trash out and i was on my phone while i was doing it and i'm in my head i'm like this shit is trash and i'm like i just put my phone on top of it and i just left that shit i'm like we got something is it do you view that as like a way for you to carry out beefs with people that you don't get along with or is it more just because to be honest i don't just do it to people that assume that we actually beef i do it to people my homies, people I f*** with.

49:30I didn't deal myself. Shit, you. All type of, like, different people. Because, like, Blanco, you guys had issues at one point, right? You felt like he was... Yeah, but me and his issues, like, that shit is, like, really internet shit. Like, obviously, he done said some disrespectful shit. I done said some disrespectful shit. But is it, like, to the point where we can't fix it? No. It ain't, like, I'm actively looking for the nigga, but, like, bro, you just said some weird shit, so I'm gonna say something back. yeah cause like he didn't seem like he was salty towards you when we were talking about you on the episode the other day he actually seemed like he thought it was pretty funny that you put him out there and then that's how you know like over time like you know what issues is real and which ones not cause you like some be more serious and the other ones eventually you be over shit some just be like hell no yeah that's kind of something I learned too is like if you have a little issue it can be tempting to blow it the fuck up and just make it a big issue but usually there's not really like that much to gain from that especially with like the hosts like even the right now like munchie and spody face both decided that they quit this week or whatever and it's like you know especially with spody face i could really like air out a lot of shit that is going on behind the scenes or what i heard or whatever and it's kind of like well if i do that then it's going to make this whole situation like way gnarlier even though the content would be really really good for the short term you know But it's like, if I don't antagonize the situation, then realistically, he'll probably be able to return.

51:00You never know. He might come back. It might not even be that serious. He might think about it. Yeah, because nobody wants to come back more than T-Rail. He just put himself in a box where he can't come back because I talked so much shit about his girl. It's just kind of at a certain point. He would look crazy coming back. To be honest, I think the cast you got right now is better. I think it's good, yeah. Yeah, but it's also like there's... I mean, it comes with more problems. Well, right now we're in a weird situation because all of a sudden the Munchie and Spudyface situation kind of fell apart.

51:30And as much as I don't think that... A lot of people in the audience weren't huge fans of Spudyface. He was getting a lot of negativity in the comments and shit like that. But Munchie was very well-liked. But Munchie got the worst reason for leaving ever. So I feel like that can only last so long. But even certain people, even though the fans don't necessarily like them, if they still get an engagement, it's still probably good for the views. Yeah, I mean, you need people that are going to argue at a certain point because the worst thing on a podcast is just everybody agreeing. And that's the weird thing with Spodeface is that he'll just disagree with everything you say.

52:06And then even if his argument don't really work out, he'll just hold on to it, which is good and bad because sometimes you just end up in an hour-long argument about something that really didn't need to be an argument, but you need somebody to argue something. Otherwise. That's really the whole objective sitting on here. Definitely. Would you ever be like a podcast co-host? Because I'm not going to lie, that did come up when I said I was interviewing you and a couple people in the group chat were like, damn, I wonder if he could be on no jumper on a consistent basis. That would be interesting.

52:36Oh, yeah. You'd be open-minded about it? Yeah. Interesting. We're going to have to see what people think of this because I don't know. you see yourself as more of a antagonist like you would be like arguing with everything or are you more of a go with the flow type it depends like I'll be cooling but then if I hear something that like I feel don't like it's off I'm gonna for sure speak up on it yeah no I feel that um so wait do you have a bunch of black friends in real life or like do you feel like as you get older that becomes more of your friend base like as you kind of are a little disillusioned with the hood shit?

53:14Nah, yeah, because I still was always around my family, my friends, my cousins, and different mutuals that we grew up with, so it wasn't like I just segregated myself completely from black people. Shit, like, hell no. I for sure got black friends, always had. You feel like culturally, who do you feel like you align with better at this point in your life though? I don't know. Does it feel like there's a big difference? Nah, to be honest, I still, I'm Still doing the same shit, like just not hanging around certain people. Like I still talk the same, walk the same. Because I never was really like SA, homie, fool, like walking around like that.

53:53I've just always been myself. So to be honest, it's just like nothing really changed except the less people I'm hanging around. So you never thought about like, you know, wearing the khaki shorts and the really tall socks. I seen you actually in the food community interview that your socks were kind of high. Oh, because I had my sweats, yeah. Nah I don't really dress like that I was just cool in but nah I don't really Dress with like the Dickies Cortez all that type of shit I just dress regularly bro whatever's in style Or whatever I feel like street wear Do you think people would think that was goofy though If you were like really following like the same Cholo dress code that certain people have I think they would tell that that's not me People would be able to tell that's not genuine Like Just my image I don't even look like no shit That I would put on to be honest Do you feel like the dudes who are more like aligned with like cholo culture and shit?

54:44Are those the ones who kind of look at you weird because to them it's sort of strange to be black from that gang? It might be 50-50 because some just be, you know, it's just culturally what they do, put the fits on, being they self. But then it is the ones that look at it like you might not fully be with this shit because you got long hair, a piercing, you got this type of clothes on or you wearing these type of jeans and all that. So for sure, it's a mixed blend always. It's always going to be that. Because I'm thinking of somebody like Bozo, who I had a long conversation with, where basically the root of it is he feels like Mexicans saying the N-word and shit is corny because you should really care more about being a representative of your culture instead of just kind of doing the trendy thing or whatever, or trying to be like another culture by using words that obviously don't originate from your culture.

55:38How do you feel about that? Rob Markman He owns some other shit. I feel like he old school. I ain't going to take nothing from it. He just old school. Everybody not with what the new generation do. And I understand just the ignorant shit, but it's too much worrying about what another dude wearing and how another dude talking and all this. To a certain extent, a line got to be drawn in any conclusion, but I feel like he just be nitpicking on the younger crowd. And for an older dude to always be expressing yourself on the internet as such, like that kind of take away from you trying to be this big OG or voice of the people when you kind of act in childish yourself about a lot of the things.

56:24I feel like that is a reasonable perspective, just to say that that word is not representative of your culture. And even though he knows that he's kind of like an old school homie by saying that shit, because obviously if you were to take 100 young Mexican dudes off the street, what percentage of them say the N-word? Probably like 90 % of them. And he from like some in East L.A., so it's like they don't even really talk like that over there. Where I'm at, you more so hear us saying it, them saying it. It really ain't no problem. You can kind of tell when a person using it can be disrespectful.

57:02And we don't really get that too much where I'm at. Yeah, like for me even, it's kind of weird to see it. It's all location-based. It's such a podcast conversation at this point. Whereas like from my perspective, I'm not going to lie, like damn near every young Hispanic dude I've been in. I've been around my whole life, including when I was in New York, including out here. is just such a normal thing that like i never even questioned it honestly i just figured like to be honest they might be racist if they don't say the word that's interesting yeah because if you're a racist i'm a racist mexican for sure ain't gonna say it yeah because when you grow up in the hood it's like bro you know you're not you kind of using it as a term of endearment so you're not trying to down talk nobody or be derogatory you just like it's become a part of your vocabulary.

57:48Do you ever run into racist Mexicans? We always hear about the Longos and shit. That was a reason why I fought on that video because one of my homies said I was acting too black. Okay. Besides that... That's a crazy thing to say to a black dude. Exactly. I don't know how else I'm supposed to act. Right. It is... I don't think I done ran into nobody other than that. And that's probably even why we fought. I think God really don't put me... I always say this. I think God don't put me in them situations for a reason because how I'm going to react. Why? You think you would just tweak? Yeah. Yeah. That was good.

58:28I mean, you probably know like what areas you'd be more likely to run. Yeah. And I stay away from places that I know that's known for being like more racial than others or that like you really won't catch too many mankind or people that look like me, whatever the case may be. Yeah, definitely. Um, um were you trying to or did you expect p nice to be offended when you uh dissed his most recent music video you put him in the trash can i've seen that all right uh yeah nah hell no because i i did his brother not too long ago but i don't i don't be doing it to be malicious though you feel me i just be like it's funny like yeah i just do it to laugh i do myself too just to like make people laugh but i wasn't trying to do it to be malicious towards p nice because um i with him on the content level because I'm subscribed to like creative players I watch that but music I don't really care for his music I ain't gonna lie yeah I didn't even know he was still rapping honestly until I saw he put but but that is the benefit of you making that kind of content is that when I saw you post that it actually made me think oh all right I want to like hear this song so I went and listened to the whole song and it could work as promo too as well for people like yeah make people want to go tap into it but I just do it to be honest like I'd be scrolling right now if I see a video and I listen to the music and I hear a part that sound like, oh, if I make one of it, it just be random, bro.

59:51The funniest one. It ain't nothing malicious. Funniest one was, shout out to 4Xtra. No disrespect, but you clanging that one video with him, that was pretty funny. And that was already a song I had heard a long time before that and shit, and I still thought it was so funny, even though I could have made the same video at some point, like clowning that one part of the song or whatever. I could have done that, But like just hearing you do it or seeing you actually jump out there and do it, like I was laughing. And I think that's why a lot of people gravitate towards it too, because they want to say these things and do the same to people.

1:00:25But like they just maybe don't got the time or just don't, whatever the case may be. Yeah. And I mean, a big problem in rap culture now is that so many people don't even give a f*** about rap. like don't even care enough to click on a music video because they just kind of feel like shit is so uninteresting at this point that like people just aren't even like excited about it and then i i rewind in my mind and i think about living in new york in the mid 2000s and how it was like every day new dipset songs new lil wayne songs new g unit songs just like every day there was music coming out that i was like extremely excited to download and put in my fucking itunes and then even not not like that was the end of it like i think about like the early 2010s when there was all these weird weird new internet rappers coming out weird like chicago drill was coming out there's all different types of street shit coming out asap mob action bronson riff rap all these like every day it was like there was new interesting rappers coming out and then

1:01:35now it's kind of like well if it's gonna take somebody like making fun of rap to get people listening to rap i guess that's that's something better than nothing it's a drought right now it's like nothing really popping everything oversaturated you could just like record a song from your phone right now download band labs or some shit like so it's hard to just cipher out who got the real talent when it's so much just being thrown in your face yeah that shit is crazy because I look at that Phoenix Flexin' song. Did you hear that one that you just put out? I had a video on that one, too. Oh, you did?

1:02:15Yeah. You threw it in the trash can? I took it out at first, and then I doubled back yesterday. Because I sat on it, and I'm like, yeah, to be honest, this is only good for a reel or something. I can't ride around to this, so I slammed it. That's funny, yeah, because I feel like that's the first rap song. I guess I wouldn't even call it a rap song. i would just call it like you know just a song by a rapper and i just like really was like damn like that's the most interesting piece of music i've heard a underground or like street sort of level rapper make in like forever like that just like was so outside the realm of what i'm used to and i actually thought it sounded good and i was astounded that he even had like the reference points of like because it just sounds like a lot of like old new wave and like punk type shit that i would like listen to when i was younger and uh i don't know i was just like taking it back like damn i really like underestimated it i thought it was ai at first yeah me too i felt like everybody felt that it's not though he said it wasn't i mean i there's a lot of like effects on his voice and shit i guess so i don't know i just felt like damn i like underestimated you as a as an artist because i did not know that you had this shit for sure yeah i did i did some shows with phoenix probably like um a year or two ago in tri-cities washington and shit oh that's for sure how was that it was cool hell yeah him and um chike was supposed to perform but he was late so he didn't end up performing it was cool though oh okay um so okay what uh so are you you're still signed to the to the dudes that you have issues with like you're signed to mr keba hood and shit or no i'm son that's like my name i'm rich rabbit i came up with the whole rich rabbits as a conglomerate collective whatever you want to call it and they just was biting off of that oh okay like i i like my name was rich rabbit so i'm finna just create a group rich rabbits yes these the homies we all rapping together involved them in it i did that and then when shit started going sideways then the weird shit start happening to where niggas want to start saying i made this this is mine oh you from the hood and this is your name so that belonged to the hood which i don't all this type of shit which i don't understand yeah no definitely um so what's your relationship with swifty blue that's my boy that's one of the first to be honest i i with swifty because that was one of the first like bigger he wasn't even real big but he had a voice back then as far as the music and he was popping and when i was coming up he was one of the first artists that really gave me like a platform yeah i mean he always has been like pretty early on tapping in with people that kind of ended up having motion and shit i thought that was my boy but then i heard him talking shit about me on hoodstocks i got mad as fuck no yeah probably uh what's his name what's lucky lucky just for lucky probably yeah but that's just like i hate that like bro if you're gonna you're gonna be in front of somebody who don't like me and you just completely change your tune after you like like i could show you my text with him and i have like eight texts in a row asking to be a host on no jumper that i didn't respond to which i mean that's pretty astounding like if you if you ask somebody once or twice and i don't respond like you should probably take the hint but like i never known anybody who was that thirsty and then for him to go and like talk shit right away it's like bro just say the reason you're talking shit say that you're mad that i didn't respond to you don't make it something like oh he's a bad guy or like he's a bad dude it's like no bro you are mad because i didn't even acknowledge you and i'll be honest like i didn't really think about it because he just like he just feels like he brings a lot of baggage like he's always just like taking out perks every time he's around me every time he come around he's like adam find me some weed before we do this interview i need some weed i need some rosin and i'm just like this is like a handful bro like i don't know yeah no i don't feel it yeah i don't know it's like you gotta be able to get up on your own bro like yeah see everybody got their different experiences with people i deal with them on different occasions you feel me when it comes to merge music like we got a different relationship i don't really just hang out like to me the reward gotta always out way to risk even if i'm just hanging yeah because like with him like it's like i'm not the perk plug like don't don't be just like coming through to do it like coming to the interview like bring your own perks like if you want to be on a perk like i don't i don't care that would make sense like i can't control that bring your own stuff yeah like i'm not the perk guy i'm just i wish i was it's like me coming here asking you for some weed or something right now yeah and i i would like probably be able to point you in the right direction but like you know it's like if you need a stimulus package just you know i don't know handled that already yeah i mean if you would if you're a junkie like you gotta get your own product don't ask the podcast i'm not saying he's a junkie but i mean i don't know and even then like little things too like he pissed me off with like i had his back like with his narrative so he was mad at me about the narrative of him pulling up to a school to press a kid because he got he got arrested out of high school for pulling up to fight a young edgar yeah that little boy needed his ass whooped though okay but he tried to say it wasn't true and i'm like okay like from what i've seen in the video it looked like he pulled up and the little boy was kind of like antagonizing them like i respect that in gang culture sometimes you you have to like as a grown man beat up a teenager like that just seems like that's kind of like normal but like you can't pull up to the school bro this is a place of learning yeah like chasing them and all that i don't think yeah i wouldn't go to the extremes of chasing nobody in front of no school well i think he like showed up at the school the next day and just tried to like catch him at recess or something i seen the gas station i think no so the kid like basically like was talking shit to him at the gas station and i think like up up his pole on him and then swift he went to the school because he knew he wouldn't have his pole on him no i didn't see that man yeah he's an interesting guy man um okay so where is it at with tommy guns though you guys cool or is that that's that's somebody you really want to up huh it's like blanco the same shit they was together just talking crazy and don't even know me so it's like bro at this point i just got a platform so i just troll them the same way they just say if i see them say something about me i just troll them make videos like i don't get i don't feel like getting out my body i'm not gonna go hunt them down like it is what it is like if i see you and you feel like the type of way like do what you want to do and we we can do that other than that you can just look our separate ways Do you think that they like Are kind of like Hating on you Because they feel like If Peso don't like you Then they should just Sort of latch onto that Yeah that was the thing But then now They fell out So it's like Now y 'all going through The same shit Y 'all just Witness me go through And I'm just not the dude That's just finna Ha ha he he Like Bro it is what it is Y 'all gonna learn Definitely Because you said that Tommy needed to be Ready to be on time And when you see him Yeah to a certain understand but like i got over oh you're over right now all right that's good um okay so uh what about like the otr thing you on good terms with them now or is that you just don't appreciate how they're moving i was never really like a part of nothing they had going i used to go record at uh the studio over there but like i would never really like otr artist well i really wouldn't with too many otr people except like swifty when he was there Cheeto other than that they wasn't even signed to OTR when I was hanging with Swiftie and him interesting I wonder how they're kind of different now yeah as I was thinking I'm like I wonder where OTR stands now because obviously back then they even had Pac-Man right I don't even think he did I don't know to be honest I was like way back they got P-Face right yeah P-Face Blanco Keeperhood okay tomorrow because when Lefty was with them that was when I felt like the light was the most on them for a little while the Cheeto when he had his little run I wonder how that's going you feel like the Cheeto Rana thing kind of ran out yeah it for sure died down he didn't get locked up again is he still dropping yeah he was somebody that I had on the podcast and we got along real good and he was kind of running his mouth a little bit afterwards which I was real surprised about A lot of these guys, man, they act real cool when you do an interview and shit.

1:10:45And then they just go do another interview, and they just start kind of popping it. That's what happened with Lefty. It's because when you leave here, a lot of people got to answer to certain other people. A lot of people got a problem with you, which they don't even really know why they have a problem. Right. Just to have something to say. They're just disgruntled fans a lot of time. Lefty, I had a totally good interview with him. and to put it in perspective, we go to take a photo afterwards. We take our shirts off for the photo. That's not something you do for a regular interview. You take your shirts off if you're really with the homies.

1:11:20And then all it took was like a week later, he goes back on Fig, and they started bringing up the fact that I said that he was the Mexican Crip Mac. Oh, yeah, he didn't like it. And he got mad about it, even though it had happened like a week before. But they were able to make him mad about it. Pump it up. I've seen that live, I think. Yeah, I think that just got blew out of proportion. yeah and then like lefty kind of i mean obviously he's had his whole career since then how do you feel about like the strength of the lefty gunplay career uh music wise i'm gonna keep it honest i ain't listening to it i i want him as a person though like the entertaining lefty and all that i was into that but i can't say that i'm gonna turn on no lefty music yeah no his music is as a person and entertaining for sure yeah like i i like him uh as a dude like i thought he was real entertaining and shit damn but so lefty and chita ronis both have not dropped in three months on youtube which is kind of crazy maybe otr holding them back you think damn i don't know maybe they're trying to heat it up but like i mean lefty like went through the whole um the whole getting sober thing which like i know somebody was on a video shoot with him the other day and they basically like had to warn everybody on set beforehand like yo lefty is going to ask you to give him drugs or get him drugs so everybody on this set needs to be unified to like not get him loaded because he just has like a hard time being around people because he'll just try to like ask them to like hey can you go give me drugs or whatever and like that's not like that's like equivalent to like a caregiver or some shit well yeah i feel like they kind of have to be like that with him at a certain point because they're trying to like get him comfortable being sober but i mean like he's been so off the radar for like the last year or so if you really think about it and it's kind of like i feel like he's he he's trying to be sober but it's just so hard for him because for a while it was a viral lefty thing like every day and that just kind of stopped at a certain point why is that always a thing though i feel like like artists like i don't know the ones that be like on drugs that's it's always common like i don't know they like need to be taken care of i'm starting to see like that's more like a thing the ones that they can like easily that's like gullible fall for shit get hooked on shit them the ones that they love yeah but control them a lot of times those are the artists that are like interesting to the public and have actual fans and shit too because the fans are like interested in seeing how things go because like i like if i was your manager like you seem pretty level-headed like i feel like i could go on tour with you and you would probably be like pretty chill to manage or whatever but then when i think about like a lot of the artists i've been around over the years like little pump smoke perp in them and like every different show we went to on tour they got different girls they hanging out with they got dudes coming around bringing all kinds of weird drugs around like it's just so chaotic and like hard to sort of shepherd them through shit which i would assume lefty probably like the same way except with like more beef and shit to worry about and also he like grown so he can like drive places and shit like that and i don't know i just feel like that it's just that's why like people are always like oh would you manage an artist and it's like bro i've never found an artist that i believed in that had motion and that i thought that it was actually worth stressing myself out having to deal with this dude on a daily basis like that's just so much to sign up for yeah and you got a lot of people come with a lot of baggage too yeah you gotta be picky yeah i mean i look at artists all the time that i feel like i can maybe sign and then i like listen to more and more of their music and i realize who they're beefing with and i realize what kind of situations they're in i'm like yeah i don't know like so i feel like as soon as you manage a gangbanger that they start looking at you like you're like a real representative of him like like like crit mac like the hoovers aren't looking at me as like a representative of him but at a certain point if you can manage this artist and you're with him for everything for sure you start to be like a stand-in for whatever they're like for that's for like active gang members though like dudes that's out here you got to go back to the hood after this you if you say the wrong thing on live somebody can call you and you feel me all the them type of dudes yeah but for like somebody that kind of like like Brick Baby he already separated himself kind of figured out okay this is what I want to do like dudes you can kind of maneuver with that.

1:15:49Yeah but like even with Brick Baby it's like okay number one like a lot of the audience wants to hear from a 19 or a 21 year old or whatever and like like Brick Baby I think is like 36 or something like you know at a certain point is it has to just be the music because the fans are like you know really like they don't pay attention to like the the people who are making like unless you're making good music they're just like not as tuned in and even with brick like i his lifestyle and i'm gonna really really hold back here but the way he was moving around even when i would be hanging out with him you know it's like maybe i'll hang out with you for tonight and we got this and this and this in the car but like i don't want to do this every day bro like this is like this is too much like if you got all these things and you're not even really like doing that great of a job trying to hide it either like if a cops pull this over they're probably gonna like see you know they're gonna see this weird colored soda in the front seat and that just reminded me i think that'd be a lot of it too like a lot of dudes that get they self in trouble coming up here because off the clock they still got like little bullshit and endeavors that they still engaging in So that kind of plays a part in their downfalls too.

1:17:04Yeah. Like dudes come on here, kind of expose their whole lifestyle, and then they go back to their neighborhood and keep living the exact same lifestyle. Like the cops don't watch this shit or like the cops aren't. Yeah, see, like after this, I'm going home. Like I'm not going to go to nobodyhood. The homie can't call me saying, why did you say this? Like I'm going to go with my girl. We're going to go get some food, and I'm going in the house, go check on my kids. It's like the other shit I don't got to deal with. So you stay pretty out the way at this point? Definitely. I can't even do the content that I do right now being out and just hanging on the blog and shit.

1:17:36I wouldn't get nothing done. Yeah. No, that makes sense. Who do you actually listen to? Who do I listen to? Chad. I've been off a lot of Lil Bean lately. Shout out Lil Bean. Rex, Life, Rods. Who else? G Perico. Yeah. who else a couple dudes a lot of uh young dudes i've been tapping in with since i've been doing this music shit too like young la talent a couple i can't really think everybody's name right now you've been around big sad and shit yeah i got video uh big sad oh right okay because you guys are like both from hoods that kind of have the same logo yeah same logo okay but that's not like y 'all are not like formally affiliated or anything uh just completely different just the same logo name kind of like for sure when's the last time you had a copy of playboy that was my yeah when i was in elementary school that was the shit have i ever even had a playboy magazine oh damn you young enough yeah that's what i'm saying i'm 27 i don't think i probably even seeing my uncles and them having that shit probably as a kid but like me having one myself like we had phones and shit yeah because you were yeah yeah no that makes sense damn i'm like dating myself right there because when i was a kid if we wanted to see a boob or a vagina or whatever you'd have to like find somebody who had a penthouse yeah a magazine or something yeah see we got tablets already psps and all that shit yeah that's why it's weird when girls are like all hyped to be on the cover of playboy or whatever these days and i'm like that shit ain't been relevant in like 20 years that's like trying to make it on worldstar yeah exactly but there are people who like still pay for posts on worldstar but sometimes i'll go look at the worldstar website and like barely see any of the paid videos anymore and i'm like damn that shit ran out too just look generic now yeah i mean that shit was corny as like 2010 like you go to worldstar and you just see these videos up top that are just like blatantly paid for but like i heard the rates are like you know 10 what they used to be yeah i'm pretty sure right now ain't nobody trying to go on there you could probably have the whole homepage of WorldServe for like 500 bucks if I had to guess.

1:19:46But all right, so what are you working on? What you got going on that you want the world to know about? Shit, I'm just dropping it every day. I'm working on content, skits, making my rounds, podcasts, doing promo. Just to be honest, I'm trying to like really, yeah, I'm finna still do the music, but I'm trying to get more into like skits, acting, and all that type of shit. Like I'm finna look into like getting tattoos on my face removed and just doing different shit. I thought you were about to say I'm looking into getting tattoos on my face like getting more. And I'm like, okay, that's one way to do it.

1:20:18You could be boom gang with it and just get the whole shit. No, hell no. I'm finna start getting shit took off like and just like going in a different direction. More content, flooding people, flooding the algorithm. Do you feel like people are going to look at you weird for getting the shit removed from your face? Not really. I just feel like I want to start getting into acting and skits and I don't really see dudes really from the hood and shit unless it's extras and randomized roles to even try to get in more faces and shit and remove some stuff. Yeah, I've thought about getting Melissa Simpson removed which would be awkward because it is a rest in peace tattoo to someone to Lil Peep, but I don't know.

1:20:59That would be such a big decision because on one hand, if I did that I would just get I would probably get the same tattoo somewhere else to just like move it but then also I've known so many people over the years they got tattoos lasered off and it just looks like fucking shit like if you're really trying to like but then also I'm kind of tempted to go on the other way and just get more face tattoos because I feel like so many people I know are just like viral for having a bunch of face tattoos like it's just so interesting to people but I don't know being 42 I feel like I would look crazy if I just got my whole shit blasted now Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

1:21:32I want to start taking them off. And then just getting older and starting to see myself in pictures. I want to take pictures with my kids and all that. I don't want to just be, like, looking like this as I get old. Yeah. But then that's the thing with the kids, too, is that the kids really like face tattoos. Yeah. Like, when my kid saw Blueface, he was so enchanted by just, like, trying to, like, Dad, why is there a baseball player in his face? It's going to be a long time before I can explain that to you. You think they'd be scared and shit, but to be honest, they'd be, like, low-key proud dad you know as a parent and shit looking like that yeah but it ain't cool though like you don't want them like me personally i don't want them thinking like that shit all right yeah my kid thinks that like crit mac having the five on his face is like hilarious she's like i'm five too i fuck crit mac for sure um all right so uh yeah appreciate it man and we should definitely uh try run an episode one time like and see how how the chemistry is just talking about topics and shit like that that could be interesting yeah i'm down bro that's really what i'd be doing anyway to be honest oh yeah all right yo tap in what's your instagram uh rich rabbit tv rich rabbit records and at 1935st 1935th street right so you you just like uh kind of spreading it between instagram accounts nah because to be honest you know how i get like people reporting shit exactly So like I just made a gang of accounts at one point, but now I'm abiding by the rules.

1:22:57So my content is cool. I just got three pages now. Yeah. Yeah. I think about that sometimes. I like I would have started like 10 no jumper pages in retrospect. If I knew how much trouble you, not how much trouble you can get in, but like how easy it was for people to put flags in your account. And then just like the value of like having a bunch of pages, you know, could really be a lot because they don't let pages grow the same way they used to. It's kind of like the way that you used to be, able to like grow a page like academics or world star no jumper by like get them to like millions of followers by reposting shit that shit does not work anymore to be honest it helped me with collaborating because i collaborate all my pages together or i use one for like reels that i just do with me talking one for reactions up and bottom and then the other one the main account is for the slam the trash can for sure yeah well that is one thing that i've been talking about with my girl and shit is like i'm not 100 sure about the fucking value of collaborating on posts because it sort of feels like posts that are collaborative that they just don't go as viral because like my boy vel beat up this dude wearing the metal glasses yeah and like that shit got like 70 million views or some shit like that and i was saying to her like yo like i should have fucking told him to collab that with no jumper when he first posted and she's like it probably wouldn't gone crazy like that if you collab like if you look through your explore page all the shit that's being recommended almost none of it is collab posts which is very strange to me because that would have probably made it seem like more generic like the first thing he did was collab with no jumper but like probably like as time go by you see it go up then send the collab then you can mix the fan base yeah but i'm telling you man look through that explore page and it don't really feel like there's any collab posts on there which is really weird yeah yeah like if you want us to use the feature why would you like limit the reach on those or maybe it's all in my head or something i don't know but and i kind of have been going more viral lately like not collabing just like posting on my main account yeah that's weird my monthly been at like 22 million interesting all right go tap in with rich rabbit appreciate you man thank you for your time appreciate you man no jumper coolest podcast in the world check us out on youtube tiktok instagram etc like comment subscribe and shout out to our members who got to watch this one live.

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