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31:35People can look disrespectfully and you might have to check somebody for being disrespectful. Recklessly eyeballing my wife. Don't reckless eyeball my wife. I understand like, uh, admiring, but if you recklessly eyeballing and up and down, like, no, that's the issue. My girl shouldn't be touching. None of my homies like that at all. But I also think that the P nice thing is important. It's important to know that. That's the first thing that came to mind for me too. But he, he wasn't just, uh, eyeball. He was like, yeah, like he, he's like, yeah, yeah. He made it kind of awkward. Yeah, that was, that was a little bit disrespectful.

32:08That's worse than get. This is worse than get. Because that's her being a part of it. It's different because the standard that we hold men to is different than the standard we hold women to. So this is crazier. But it's only crazy. But look, Adam is in a different kind of relationship. Wack may be in a different, like he may have different levels. To me, my relationship, that's not cool. No, no. People got, I got to be consistent across the board. I seen this nigga blow a gasket behind this woman. You know what I'm saying? So, not you. No, no, man. You know what I'm saying? There's a few people that have seen me blow gaskets about my wife.

32:41No, no, no, no, no. that's your wife you love her but but i'm saying like like like like i seen this man but that when this came across my desk i'm like no no way i mean but just to the right good though i want to acknowledge that my relationship is far more traditional than you think because in my entire time with my wife she's never like we we've seen guys that she's shot scenes with before at adult porn parties and she gives them a little like one second hug and then it's like right back to standing next to me. She has never done anything to make me feel like she was compromising the relationship that we have in terms of us being out in public or whatever.

33:19The scene is the scene, and then after that, there's no flirting, no touching on anybody ever. I feel your relationship is as traditional as it could get in the field you're in. And like I said, I'm consistent, because I didn't spoke to this in the past, but this is unacceptable. Yeah. So I'd like to hear her acceptance. No, I just want to know, like, Adam, since based on what you just said, if you saw Lena do that with Jason Love, what would you, how would you feel? Why him? Because that's a great example. But touching on him the way that she was just, I would be pissed because, especially given that you guys have done a scene together, then I really am not cool with you, like, doing anything that's even hinting at it.

34:03Like, this ain't business. It's way more important. No affection outside of this shit. It's way more important for her to be on her P's and Q's with a guy that she shot a scene with before. Because this is weird because Blueface is like her child in a way. He's 15 years younger than her. He's obviously a hot, famous rapper. He's in good shape. Girls like him, etc. So if you're whack, you have a reason to be kind of insecure about the way that maybe she feels towards him. Because yeah, you might be whack, but he's Blueface. He's the star of the show. We all know that when you're seeing a girl, maybe all of us, our relationships are solid enough that you wouldn't think about it.

34:40But when you bring your girl around a famous rich rapper, that's when you get to kind of figure out what she's made of. Now, you've been in a relationship for 10 years. You probably know. But if you're seeing a girl for like a week or two and you bring her around ASAP Rocky, she might act different. She's in a relationship. Might be a little different. But, you know. August Alsina. Very August Alsina and Jada-esque. That's a dude. Oh, right, yeah. Yeah. Oh shit You're talking about 15 years younger He's not like her son She's probably old enough to be his mom But she's not like his son He was gay Supposedly She has a mom son relationship with him In the sense that like She's involved with his management team She's helping like cop the flights Because he's the crazy rapper that's not gonna cop a flight She's like involved with all the shit that Wack's doing I assume So Wack like his dad?

35:31Kinda I have met his dad now I mean when you're a manager You're kind of choosing to take on some Parental style responsibilities Did Cash have a reaction to that or That no I should bring it up That could have led to The shit with the With the girl if this was like back to back You could already like Say if my girl got me on edge Already well that's what much he was implying And then something else happens that's got me Like you just adding to the edge like and i'm pissed off now like everybody's relationship is they relationship i ain't judging nobody like that but i'm just only basing it off of how i feel like that's that's a no-fly zone you know what i mean like because you wouldn't want me rubbing nobody's titties and ass in front of you i just think that if we get her explanation for why she did that that it would be something that we're not thinking of that is totally innocent because the way she did it just didn't look like a sexual emotion in any way it was behind don't look like that and you said you'll be upset if that was the same case with Jason Love.

36:33She got digged down by him. Okay. I feel like he's a little bit tighter standard. So if you're playing Brian Steele and you, her lawyer, what's the defense you're putting on for her? I would have to talk to her. She was touching him for what? I don't believe that it was like a sexual touch. Was she fixing the mic for him? The mic probably wouldn't be like under his chain. Okay. Was this after the text message? It's a whole lot that goes on in this. That's a shit though. The narrative I heard, let me say narrative, that the girl BB had dropped a Blueface dick pic in the group chat that she was in, and he was upset.

37:06Why are you putting a dick pic where my wife is in here? And then after seeing the hang time, here you go. I can't believe Bluefaces are handing out dick pics after all these years. It seems like a terrible idea. Man, he accidentally on purpose leaked this shit in the shower, remember? Oh, yeah, remember that? He got DP for that shit. Wait, really? Come on, man. Come on, man. You know. That leads to a DP? You part of the 100 family. I'm not a part of the schoolyard family. I don't have a conversation about that, but that's pretty. Gang members can't have dick pics? No, no, no, no. I guess he was like brushing his teeth in the shower, chains on it.

37:36It's like, hey, man, look at this guy. He busts some eyes or something. Him and the baby mama pulled up, he cut some face or something. Hey, stupid shit. Hey, I'm not from schoolyard, you know? We know. I wouldn't have been no disciplinary action. We know where you're from, motherfucker. Half the chat is putting on IFG at the end of their donations. Right, yeah. you're like a very influential leader of your community there's munchy babies for sure rolling deep get to the bottom of that Adam I'm curious man usually I ain't even into this love and hip hop zoos type baddie shit but that shit is interesting right there I don't know if he's gonna be back on Thursday we might have to do another remote episode this is really a tricktory secret adjacent if we're being honest I'd love to I'd love to I wouldn't I wouldn't do no bashing during the whole interview.

38:26I would just talk to her, get in her psyche. It's funny. I got to be honest. I felt kind of bad for the way I'd been talking about her specifically. It's almost like I warned you that that was a bad idea. When I saw her reaction, what she said. She's a woman of God. React to you? Yeah. What she said. She was like, I'm not even mad at Lush. I understand. That was fucked up, but I'm not mad. I was even before that I was telling Wack that he was going too hard and that wasn't cool I was like damn she's not like a bad lady I don't have any I felt bad she said she gave you grace yeah yeah yeah what does that mean like I started you out like she's like she understands what he's going through and she can see situations how they are like she sees through the surface level you don't know what somebody's going through so I'm gonna give him grace that's very respectable in my opinion I respect you you know who didn't give you grace is Comparator because apparently there's a picture of Comparator fucking Germ's face on the Reddit right now yeah I'm sure it's real no no that's where did that come you want to see it somebody showed me earlier is it AI AI can't do nasty shit right no wait oh oh it's not in the Reddit maybe they took it down but somebody sent it to me earlier that's hot I just like is that upsetting that I'm guessing can't delete that.

39:46It can't be as upsetting as my actual life fucking people currently. You feel me? What do you mean? Well, just in general, it's like my ex.

40:01This nigga Uno is back on BT. It's my ex, right? It's my ex. I was just wondering if you were pissed because Kumpa used to be your boy. Wait, there is a difference. One is allowed. One is allowed. One's not. Eh, yeah But that is Hey, that was a cooler rebuttal, man You sharp I'm just saying No, I can never be sharp I still work in no jumper Oh So, wait So you're I see what you did there You're telling me That Compa Raider Not only did this Not only filmed it Actually, whoa What if she was filming it? That's gnarly But He chose to leak it to the world Like, what are you doing? What are you thinking?

40:39Well, that's That is the only thing that I was actually upset about. It was in the V2 by the way. That was the only thing that I was upset about is that you would choose to like use this like that's my ex whatever like it's a little weird since I was cool with you so it's like alright like you clearly not the homie and you clearly like a desperate pathetic dude. I would fuck on his bitch but she ugly as hell. Like I don't know like I would have the same problem he did when he apparently couldn't get his dick hard so like I would probably not be able to get my dick hard with that ugly ass bitch he's fucking on.

41:09So But the thing is this Like if he would have just told me Like hey hey pero Yo I fucked germ way I would have been like alright like that's cool Thank you for telling me like Yeah you could do that on some homie shit Yeah but the fact that he took it straight to the internet And leaked it and possibly Might have committed a felony Oh yeah no like germ's gonna lose her mind Yeah that's what I'm saying I know like at least from what I know of her She probably don't Think about how traumatized she was because she had a sex tape drop When she was like 19 or whatever Yes, but it's like you can't squeeze blood from a stone since he just lost his restaurant, all this other bad shit is happening.

41:47Small W's. I banged this girl at some point. He's like, well, at least my restaurant shut down, but at least I got some pussy a while back. Yeah, at least I fucked someone's ex, which I've done two other times, the two other of my friends, and that's the reason I'm not from Sompfair anymore. I'm dropped from my hood. That ain't no reason you put a nigga off a hood, though. Well, I mean, there's more to it than that. There's more to it than that, but, you know. Gotta be. I don't need to speak on they business, but... Shouts to a real respectable, legendary barrio that he's not from. You think that he got put up?

42:17Oh, I know he's not from there. But he got put up. I think... Yeah, he's... I mean, you're either from there or you're not. I think he is like a... What you call it? An outcast. Well, he can't claim the hood. He doesn't... Well, he was from there. He used to wear that hat. They told him, stop wearing that hat. He was supposed to come to the hood to handle business, and he drove away in the Black Escalade before he pulled up on McClay. So, he was shook. They don't fuck with him. Should he be put off the hood just because he got robbed for some drugs by a Roland 60s member and then didn't do anything about it?

42:46If you're a Southsider, you can't get robbed by, you know, other gang members. Anybody could be robbed. Definitely not. Anybody could be robbed, bro. Of course, but you're not supposed to be. But you're supposed to do something about it, right? You're not supposed to be. You're not supposed to be. It's how you respond, but anybody could be robbed. It's how you respond. For sure. I don't care how tough you is. Well, he got robbed and didn't do a motherfucking thing and took the L. So, and I really look at my, no, no here. And here, here's the thing. The last thing. My boy did it. So I'm proud of my boy.

43:16I'm kind of disappointed in him. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Free break. Pull up. But here's the thing. I, I literally, uh, last, last thing I said about him publicly, the last thing I said about him publicly, um, um, dub five Gator, you feel me? The dropout. The last thing I said was I pray for him. I'm sorry. You're having problems. if you need help getting into rehab I got you even though I'm not cool with you anymore I consider this fatal progressive disease that we share to be something that's a tragedy and doesn't just affect you affects your entire family who are good people and don't deserve to have that in their lives so I was really trying to offer him some grace and help him out so then if he's doing weird shit like that it's like okay alright so you know gloves are back off Deuce 5 Gator is a dropout he's not from the hood he lost his restaurant his family hates him as much as you think you're like on his level i would say that you're like so far above his level at this point that it's like you probably shouldn't just like keep that one going because like realistically that's a sad story that's that's not a w for him though no everything about this is an l for him like everything about this that's your ex girl that's not your current if it was my bitch it'd be a little different but it wasn't we were already broken up for like two months and the only reason she did it was to try to get at me so it's like all right like i can't i just have no respect for him he's not a i don't even look at him as a man he's a little ass boy he's a little ass boy i mean like here's the thing i actually don't have any problem with germ at all like at this point me and germ are solid but she she's the one that is really trying to hurt you she was you know what i mean she was trying to hurt me and we've gotten past it like i'm not i would never date her again yeah because i would ever be in a relationship but it's like i made the homegirl a housewife should have never done that that was my mistake to begin with i kind of i knew the way she was she cheated on every boyfriend she ever had with me but okay in the breakup does it not become like unbelievably clear to you how much of a double standard there is because the things that she could do to hurt me are so it's like my sensitivity level is so much like like if i were to hang out with a girl that she knows and fucking make out with her on a stream or some shit like that or even if she knew that i'll fuck the girl or whatever i feel like it was totally fine for me to do that if she fucks a guy that i know that that she doesn't like boom i'm done well i'll never i'll never date you again and that's the thing i did the same thing to her i love those standards i ain't a fair a person.

45:52Well, it benefits us a lot. But it's something that benefit them too, though. The only difference is some that lie in court and some that lie in ours, and I'm fine with double standards. The only difference is I knocked two of her homegirls, and they're just not... After the relationship? Yeah. She knows? Yeah. They're not... We were going tit for tat for a while, but they're not notable public figures to this. I mean, not that he is either, but he has been introduced to this space. To her, he's like bad bunny. No, to her, he's... And you're Drake. Well, I would say to her, he's like one of the fools from like Coyote or like Cypress Hill.

46:32Just say fool community. Be regular. Like what it is. That's basically what I said. Yeah. Oh, Coyote. I thought that was that group back at. Yeah, but they're dope. Like, I'm not talking shit about them. Oh, that is them. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? I wouldn't compare him to Coyote, though. I ain't heard that either. Because they are actually established really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're good. Okay, but as opposed to Bad Bunny, I'm like, yeah, I'm basing it off the scale. I'm just saying that she is such a low-level human that to her, Compa Raider is at the approximate status of a Bad Bunny.

47:04Whereas to a normal person who's doing something in their life, Compa Raider would be more on the level of a bum on the side of the road. Yeah, he definitely is that, but she's got some pretty notable bodies on her roster. Yeah, but they were all before those dudes were famous. She got in early. Yeah, and you're leaving room for compliments of her. You know what I mean? I'm not mad at her, though. I'm really not. So you shouldn't be mad at Compa either then. I wasn't, but he keeps trying to play. What do you mean? He keeps playing, though. He played with a willing participant. But what he's doing after the fact.

47:37How long have y 'all known each other? Who? Me and Compa. A couple years. How long you known Jerm? Way longer. Okay. Yeah. Who? Who owe you the loyalty? Who owe you loyalty? Well, I feel what you're saying. and I'm not going out of my way to shoot her unnecessary bail. No, I'm not saying that. You don't have to bash her here, but what I'm saying is it's not balanced because one is someone you invested a lot of time and energy into and built with. One is somebody you just got fucking loaded with. And that's what your relationship was based on. He don't got no loyalty to you. He don't give a fuck about you.

48:09You shouldn't be her because you don't give a fuck about him. You give a fuck about Jeremy, she gives a fuck about you. I think that the issue is more that the beef was supposed to be on one set of like standards and that now apparently the gloves are off in a way that lush probably wasn't even aware of my my conjecture would just be to say you should not like continue to try to like push the envelope be like oh you're gonna post the picture fucking my girl's face my ex's face well i'm gonna do this he's just like not even relevant enough to like play there's nothing to do like this is literally all he has going on besides the only other news headline that he's got going on is your son hates you and you lost your restaurant and you ate a blunt and you ate a blue so it's like all right yeah you are like there is just looking at this thing and thinking about what it would be like to chew it up oh and not even this but like a fatter 607 unk blunt like like for adam like no reason to not get back on no jumper i did not for you what are you talking about to not get back on this is a diabolical i brought to him he said i think about that's crazy hood stocks is like the most there's the highest level he could attain in this point but i thought i thought i heard somewhere that he bought a building for it for them or something like am i tripping he can't even buy a building for his restaurant he probably lost a building he probably marked him up use them up they probably know man but and so shouts to lucky that's a cool platform but that is literally the pinnacle that raider could reach that's african booty scratcher cuz right there you go african booty scratcher cuz there you go

49:44dragonite african booty scratcher cuz yeah yeah no that's him yeah no that i mean obviously that wasn't a cool thing to say and like there's glad i hope they exposed that then he called south central little africa he did yeah hey man you and spotty be catching everything yeah Hey, Lil' Africa Bro, you know how many Mexicans it is in South Central? What the fuck? Lil' Africa That's a pretty indefensible statement What? Hey, no, that's an East L.A. statement Being from where he from, he looking outside in You know what I'm saying? I don't really think he's like a racist I just think he's like retarded No I mean, those are definitely racist statements Derogatory statements for sure Derogatory for sure But what I want to know is I think that the reason why people say that someone's a racist when they say shit like that is, okay, you're saying this on camera.

50:33What are you saying off camera? Yeah, I just feel like we can't just keep throwing that term out there like that. That's derogatory. It's insensitive. It's fucking ignorant. You're talking about the African booty scratcher thing? No, the South Central shit stand out more than me because that's not even like... It's a well mixed... South Central is for sure predominantly Hispanic at this point. Like, that's stupid. Also, I just... And they get a fucking long. Right. Like, you want to talk about black and brown? Yeah. They get a long in South Central. There's no gangs in South Central that push, like, MK or NK or anything like that.

51:05That's not a thing over there. The reason why I just thought it was funny is because, like, saying African booty scratcher about Blueface is probably, like, one of the people who's, like, a black person who's, like, not in touch with his African heritage in any way. So, like, calling him that, like, strikes me as, like, particularly ignorant. For sure. Because when you, like, as a kid. You have to go out of your way for that. And the African booty scratcher thing was basically like a way to tell an American black person that they seem like they are kind of out of it or like not sophisticated because they're too in touch with their African roots, which like at least is a logical diss, but it makes no sense to apply it to Blueface, which is why it stands out to me as like particularly stupid.

51:47If we really just going back to that exact moment, he was trying to be funny for the female. I ain't going to disrespect her at all. He was trying to show up for her. He didn't know what her next sentence is going to be. He said, yeah, you like me, Joe? Then he just threw that in there. Yeah, because he was asking her if she's attracted to black people. That's how you know that they're so bothered. He's bothered by that. You know what I mean? That is an agitator for him. Why is that the first thing on your mind? Because he probably got a little pitot. What do you call that? Pitot? Pitot? Yeah, they came for me for that shit.

52:18He's like a big guy and he probably got a little dick. Oh, man. No, no, no, no. He's showing off for the female, the young lady. You know what I mean? I think he was faded and maybe that's just like, you know, it's typical. You got to think the origin of the conversation was Jenny 6ix9ine and Blueface, bro. So that pissed a lot of the brown side off. Wow, man. Right? So now he's asking this lady from the brown side, like, you're attracted to him? Hey, yeah. He just, please don't like him. Please don't wipe him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He don't like him. He just like him. Like, he was just like, you know what I'm saying?

52:51You know how daddy was like, please don't let him hear. Please don't let him hear. He was like on some shit like that. It was just a hater moment. I don't think he just, in that moment, he wasn't trying to be racist. He was just being a big ass hater. Yeah. That's all that was, bro. You know, he paying for pussy, bro. That sucks that I'm beefing with Jenny 6ix9ine. Maybe I could hit her up. He ran off on the plug, bro. He didn't even finish paying for the pussy. Remember? If your instinct, though, while you're in hater mode is to just go directly to racial epithets it's kind of indicative of your character to a degree yeah absolutely i'm not saying nothing i'm not saying that i'm speaking up for his person like no and i'm not speaking against him i'm just it's got to call call a spade a spade you know it is what i like that i would like to have conversations like uh that with him face to face and with hater world after uh knowing what about the shirt the shirt right but uh full community i absolutely not because they all like graduated fifth grade and stopped.

53:46You know what I'm saying? But I would like to have some dialogue. Does that include Moose Man when you say that? What you mean? Well, he's part of the football. No, no, no. Oh, that was before his tenure. No, Moose Man can articulate himself. He's well-rounded. Moose Man is no jumper. He just goes, hangs out over there a little bit. He's from no jumper. And Sacramento. He's putting the steak in that clay. He is my Mexican. it's my mexican i pulled him from up north thank you adam might be a part of the nortenio card at this point for all we know i support the nortenios hey man hey bro i didn't agree like jay hood and spotty face was acting like the songs they played by moose was just so garbage and it wasn't it was all right well let's disagree too yeah it's it's it's well first of all i didn't hear the specific record i don't think Moose is a bad rapper though.

54:36No I'm saying you were with Munchie on that. I was just, I don't fucking like new rap at all anyway. I don't like none of old school rap. It seemed like there is like, I don't know if Spody would have had that same reaction previous to this little incident. I mean have you ever heard him say anything critical about any rap songs like ever before he had a fight along racial lines? He says, Crip Max shit was dope. What's the name of the song? Never Commit Unalive. Suicide? Yeah. He has a sequel coming out to that song, Never Commit Suicide, that's called Never Commit Molestation. Yeah, it's like a song meant to inspire all the pedophiles to chill out.

55:17No, it's not. We're gonna drive around downtown. Even if the kid... Even if the kid's right in front of you, don't do it. Never Commit Molestation. But you gotta be biased, bro, to say Foe Etchers and Krimack rap better than Moose Man, bro. Hell no, Moose Man are way better. that's what I'm saying I'm like wow where am I at You got it. You're in a little bit of a biased circle. Clearly like that. There's there's a that's like asking somebody if somebody's good at anything while they're beefing with them. You like you ain't gonna give him no credence. Like you just like, oh, fuck. I've never said Draco was a weak rapper, nor Nipsey.

55:54Never said it. It's some songs I think I probably skip on, but I never said that. Yeah, but you can't. No, but that says a lot, though. That does. It's unarguable to say that they're weak, though. You can't argue that they're weak? No, no, no. That they're garbage? But, okay, yeah, obviously, we can't compare Moose Man's skill level to fucking Nipsey. No, we're not comparing him. He said you got to dislike to somebody. Right, no, I feel what you're saying. I can still be honest. Yeah, clearly Spody is not judging with his ears. He's compromised. with these compromised yeah he I would say in this instance he's a big compromise on your night because he hey bro he he he I don't I don't understand Jay Hood is a little Dirk fan he's all drill he's just a killer fan he likes he likes the guy with the most bodies in any particular situation yeah he's there's a drill music Chicago yeah he fucks with Bloodhound Lil Jeff and all that to go from Dirk Bond that kind of shit to Moose Man you know he ain't fuck with that shit that's the weird thing about those moose man songs like the one music video that i'm thinking of where like he was really leaning into his swaggy cool guy bag and it's like he was going for it like moose man committed to the bit in that one song that i'm thinking of the music video it just maybe wasn't it or maybe he needed to go longer maybe if he wanted to be a larry june he had to spit bars for the next 10 15 years but you're saying bit like that wasn't him like that that might have been That does imply that.

57:27I feel like the real, the moose that we hang out with right now is probably closer to the real moose, but that was him trying to throw on this sort of like swaggy costume. Are the maturation a moose? Like, can this be the maturation a moose? If you want to be a rapper, you got to be a little different than your real self. If you know about moose, like he had a whole arc where he was a SoundCloud rapper for years and was going on tours with like suicide boys and shit like that. He was definitely fully committed to being an artist. That was his whole thing. And maybe rap didn't work out. And it was just like, shit, I got to grow up, pivot, or do something else.

58:01This is not the direction I'm going. Well, at a certain point, pushing that line, it kind of looks a little bit, it's hard to age gracefully with that. Yeah. I feel like even if he did become Not No Mo, that's the song that I'm referencing right here. I'm looking at the Moose Man music videos. He's pulling up? Yeah. That's what I'm saying, though. He's leaning into his swag god wavy moose mode.

58:31Even if the music seemed like, okay, if I grind real hard five years from now, I'm going to have a little music career or whatever. Compare that to being a podcaster where it's a little bit more immediate, where you might be able to make a couple hundred bucks on YouTube this month. You might be able to get on No Jumper. There's a lot of opportunities that seem like they could unfold pretty quickly as opposed to rap where it's like most people their rap careers will never turn a profit and it's better to get out early and be like all right it didn't work then to fucking prolong that shit for 20 years and you just was never successful like get out it ain't working for you i also don't think that the the podcast dream was as prevalent back then for most people in 2018 as it is now like it's way more viable a lot of the kids that used to wannabe rappers, wannabe streamers now, which is great, in my opinion, because it just makes it so that the people that are actually passionate about hip-hop become MCs, and it's not just a trendy thing that people are dick-riding because it's the cool thing to do.

59:33That's going to make the overall quality of music way higher. I think people were saying that they were rappers back in the day just to not look like they weren't fucking doing nothing. It was a bunch of lazy motherfuckers that was like, oh, I rap because you had to have something to say that you were doing you're going to the studio you ain't even doing shit in the studio if it's 1995 and you're a guy who feels like you got some talent you want to do something creative what the fuck are you gonna do besides like be a rapper and it's it's tough it's like really really really really hard to be a rapper without a label deal or anything if you're just kind of making about the trenches but like at that time nobody had ever thought about being a podcaster or a skit guy or you know now you have all these options and as a result people just look at the rap option as one of many options which is why it's like so much less alluring to people now extras and movies are more successful than fucking rappers back in 95 at least you're not spending money you're like you're making a little bit of money you have more of a chance as being an extra yeah and it'll be more lucrative by a significant margin i know rappers that have plenty of them ain't made a dollar off of them saying that they're a rapper and that's one thing though like we we learned this when we had flock to ball in the group chat is that there's a lot of the fans think that even like very unsuccessful rappers are making a bunch of money and like you know to me that's just kind of astounding like you think that a music video that got a hundred thousand views which half the time those are fake views is like you know maybe that video made you like a couple hundred bucks but the video guy cost 500 bucks which is a steal and the graphic design guy cost 100 bucks and and the asali fit that you bought a couple of paid posts on different instagram pages that cost you a couple hundred bucks, you're already in the hole.

1:01:14You're already knocking it out of the hole. The Airbnb. So you kind of added to my point yesterday and they were saying why people just don't leave but I'm like, damn, Doug, I don't think he was able to leave but they said he signed for one point whatever, whatever, but how long after he signed did he die? Not that long, within less than a year. He already had another deal before that too, but like the fact of the matter is I was just making a point that a lot of these rappers don't gotta like people think. Everybody can't do the Chief Keefe thing and just move to California and never look back.

1:01:47You know what I'm saying? For sure. Well, is that Q50's thing? I don't think Q50 was up. I think he was alright. I don't think Q50. That's a great tie-in. For sure, because Q50 would not have gone back to Chicago, I'm pretty sure if he still had the same motion he had six to ten months prior to that. What you mean by go back? Because he's from there. Where did he go? He moved to LA. He's from Chicago. He was all over like LA and New York and stuff for a while, kind of out the way. But then he ends up spending more time in Chicago. But you also like, think about it. He's, he's driving a regular ass Tesla.

1:02:21He's in the hood at four o 'clock in the morning with one gun on him. Not even any homies to watch his back or whatever. Like anybody who's really paid attention to Q50s career over the last like two years or whatever, you saw the huge wave in the beginning. And then as time goes by, you saw it kind of subside. And even if you just watch his YouTube views or whatever, And that happens to like every drill rapper Because most drill rappers are kind of making the same song Over and over and over But yeah it's pretty sad that That situation unfolded like that Just because you could have imagined A situation in which he would have been moving A lot more on point but also let's be real Most of his homies are dead Kind of like the last one out of that hood So he was a super trophy essentially I hear people Like he the face of it My boy Lil Bootsy when he did the viral thing On Vlad like you gotta get away hypnotized with hate and all the little right i'm saying i understand but i mean your hood supposed to be like your comfort zone that's where you from yeah but like i remember the discussion we had about chicago yesterday it's different like the thing about q50 though is that so he's from drill city and there's another hood called trap city that's right there and they used to all be one hood and then they start beefing and that's like basically who killed everybody in their little war is like these two hoods that are so close together they were one and now that's basically the the reason for the entire bloodhounds being killed and didn't he make a statement saying like he's gonna either he's gonna die that way or some shit like in the end like where he's like either i'm gonna be here and i'm gonna i know people are after me and that's what it is but like the logical thing would be like for survival if your guys are gone go do something else go somewhere else it's it's not that hard to move the whole thing though is as a rapper what are you gonna really do to make money if it's not rapper shit you can't drive uber you can't go do construction you know it's like what was he gonna do at a certain point when the money kind of slowed down a lot what but that's the thing why can you not uber why can you not do that because you're q50 and you're famous you're a famous murderer like but but that's if you're i'm not gonna i'm not gonna uber in my hood i'm not gonna uber where him doing it in la like what you are saying is insane.

1:04:33So you don't think he could have changed his life? You think Q50 was... Do you think if Frosty the Snowman needs to make some extra money, he should do some Uber in LA? Because the answer is resounding no. Drive Uber. But is LA his hometown? Q50? No. Frosty the Snowman. Yes. But it doesn't matter. Q50 is a famous killer rapper. A Roller 60 might hop in the backseat. He's not doing no Uber. Hell no. which I know you just like don't know that much about him but him doing Uber is out but look no I know a ton of killers wait he could do Uber he could do Uber in a different state not in LA not in St.

1:05:14Louis not in Chicago I know a lot of people that have changed in California nobody but he's hella famous out here I don't even know him yeah but you don't pay attention to shit Uber is not a realistic profession for him in general but there is other ways he could have made money. He could do it as and leave it on a porch. He's still not good. But that's lower that yes he could do that but I think he could have more lucrative opportunities regardless. How many ex-felons convicts and ex - this shit that's doing construction that have tangible crafts and skills in labor? Yeah. All the unions is filled with them.

1:05:48Be a chef. Your maturity is on a different level. People can't see themselves from being a rapper and with all the chains and business and going construction I think it's more of a hang up for him than it is the society. You are out of your fucking mind with this take. By the way, I just want to say, when I said that he can't do Uber or construction, we should have just left it at that because absolutely he cannot do Uber or construction. Pete Keller could be a registered nurse. She would make way more sense. Yeah. Man, who is this lady, man? Oh, you'd like her. So you're saying there is no other option for this dude but to die?

1:06:20No, no, no. No, but I'm saying he can't drive Uber. He's a famous rapper who raps almost exclusively about how many bodies he has. He got to wear a COVID mask in your life. So don't get hung up on Uber. I'm just using that as just a career. Any job where he is out in public and people would be able to walk up and shoot him is an absolutely non-starter. There's no way. That could happen anywhere. Yeah, but I'm saying, even in LA. He probably doesn't have ops in LA. It doesn't matter. You're way too famous. so yeah he was kind of funny he had to do crime realistically if he wanted to get money I mean like he still could have leveraged his he could have moved in LA and continued to try to start early fans I mean that's another option he could have just tried to leverage his celebrity in numerous ways that don't involve jobs that would look some type of way to the general masses I mean famous snitches that survived he could have started an awful lot of Q50 collab I'm just saying there's a lot of things he could have done If you have that much, I just know if someone like B is able to survive and he's significantly more famous, I don't see how he couldn't.

1:07:25Here's the problem, too, though, is that when you're used to making rap money and street money, it's like a good day where you drive Uber all day. I'm pretty sure that you max out at like$250,$300. It's not a lot. After gas and all that? Q50 in an average day probably needs to smoke at least$100 worth of weed. Probably needs to take at least$30 worth of perks. He's probably got to buy at least$100 worth of bullets. Boom, there's your Uber money. It's all gone right there. All right, minus him being. Is he using 100 bullets every day? More than that. 2 ,000 bullets to kill him. It took 2 ,000 bullets.

1:08:03He's definitely spending more than 30 days on perks. Minus him being a hot boy, right? people on a list or whatever. It'd be like an ego blow to come from being a rapper to just getting a nine to five. I know it's an ego blow. Like Spotted Lock, he was a G unit, then he was a security guard. But he works a regular job now. That's why I say it's more of a mental thing with the individual person than it is with the world. That's all I'm saying. 100%. I don't think he's as fucking prominent and famous amongst the population of the world. Knows who Q50 is. Yeah, but Rios, you know realistically, because I guarantee you, you got some homies out there that are far less successful in rapping, but they've been told, okay, you're dope, da-da-da-da, they have a little local fan base, and even those type of dudes a lot of times don't want to work a regular job and think it's bad for their image.

1:08:56I know. I'm agreeing with that. You don't know who he is, but you gotta trust us. Just trust me. He was joined it up. You talking about the Hit List thing, and we talking about just bringing ourselves down and be like... Humble yourself. Humble yourself and get a job. Those are two different things. A lot of people that are rappers and shit ain't going to be able to do it. For sure he wouldn't be able to do it. He was a drug addict. When you just said$30 worth of perks, that's like one or two perks. I know. I was trying to be reasonable. Shooting some bail? Yeah. If anything,$90 to$100 in perks a day.

1:09:28I personally feel like Q50 was at the exact moment of his career where he was finally starting to try. because like his most recent project and stuff i noticed like oh he's actually like pulling up to these platforms and like doing the sort of hanging mic type performance thing that you know he's actually uh uh seeming like he's going out of his way to like do media and like get out there and stuff because i think like he had like automatic success after bloodhound uh after bloodhound jeff and little skoom died because he was the only bloodhound left so he gets to kind of capitalize on all of their potential right but then two years later motherfuckers are not like actively thinking about that shit anymore and keep in mind pretty temperamental guy he was super tapped in with vonov 1700 now we got vonov 1700 basically celebrating and laughing about his death i mean that kind of tells you a lot about like his ability to like get along with people and work well with people you know because his relationship with von was worth a lot to him and right that apparently wasn't you know i hadn't seen anything about q50 for a while until i think didn't you make a video like a week ago about that particular issue.

1:10:33Which that video went crazy as soon as he got killed. I'm not really big on like, I'm not really tapped into like all the Chirac little inner work. The lore? Yeah, I'm not like, you know what I'm saying? I know that like the ones that's A-listers, that's out of the Chiracian little shit, but he's damn near was in that category. He's like, I mean, upper beating tears. But y 'all talking about this dude like he was this guy. He didn't have a hammer on him. He did. Yeah, he had one pole, I believe. He did. But he didn't And he was just with a female. It's not great. Hey, man, but you know niggas die with their guns on them all the time.

1:11:05But I thought I heard that he didn't have one. No, he did. Then why he walk into the grocery store, the liquor store, and ask the dude if he has a hammer? Right. I don't know. I didn't really listen to what he was saying in that clip. He asked to register the security. Do you have a hammer? He said, nah, I ain't got one. He's like, all right, cool. He had one. But also, if you're talking about famous Chicago rappers who are in Chicago, who's more famous than him? Vaughn. Yeah. He's like in the same category, I would say. You know, like Q50 basically like one of the last, most famous drill rappers who are still in Chicago.

1:11:36Isn't Herbo still in Chicago? I don't know. Herbo be out here a whole lot. I'm pretty sure Herbo wouldn't have pulled up to that gas station like he did. No, he moves smart. Doesn't that question his movement? Oh, yeah. Like his movement that he was. I'm not questioning it at all because I've seen him moving loosey-goosey. But when I was around Q50, big old drums on the blicks. But also snorting perks and drinking lean. Like, he's ready for war, also getting loaded. That's par for the course. Hey, out here in our, we hop out, we leave the car, run in, be on the door, walk in the store with no shirt on, to buy a new shirt, put it on.

1:12:10Like, I don't know, like, just the don't go to the hood, just get away, see? I don't know, I ain't tapped in with it. I hate to say it, but. I hear about it. But Chicago is more dangerous than L.A. Yeah, they get away with more. Yeah, like L.A., L.A., if you look at. I just heard that six-month shit. Like if you look at it, they get charged by six months or you got to let them go. That's it. Like what? Yeah. Like if you look at the statistics, look that up, though. Like y 'all know that gang violence is significantly less than it was back in the 90s and 80s. It's not even close in Los Angeles.

1:12:42In Chicago, it is, though. Crime is down. Right. Crime and the biggest killer in L.A. right now is fentanyl. Straight up. Hey, hey, hey, that's that's comparing apples and oranges, bro. If they switch their DAs with ours. yeah no we have a way more vigilant um or even switch the the laws that they got with ours i'm not saying la is soft i'm saying that we have a significantly more strict and then the game banging change from back then and now you got like bloods and crips that get along longest you ain't the mediates y 'all could get along and now back then it was red and blue i don't want to see no blue they don't want to see no red and it's like you know what i'm saying well a few things happened in chicago that really made it a lot worse number one they tore down some of the biggest projects in the city like the brainy green yeah that's what you know what's wrong yeah and they and they made and that spread gangs or people that were from there out throughout the city a bunch of the ogs had been smacked in big ricos and indictments so pretty much they didn't have the leadership and it became a bunch of youngsters running renegade yeah with no with no with no guidance with no guidance and no substantial business build right like usually back in the day that was that guy would build something out like you would have some street revenue stream You have some foundation, something built business-wise or hood-wise, something like where you, like, I don't know.

1:14:01I don't get that shit. They started creating little hybrid sets where it's like, some of them are BD, some of them are GD, but they're all here. And now they're repping this block. And it just became a bunch of other shit, which doesn't really happen in LA nearly to even close. Our game's been around since the 60s and 70s. That's starting to be good tomorrow. Right. But I don't know. There's a lot of shit I don't really understand. But look, like if you don't become a successful rapper and you a drill rapper, you just don't promote to nothing? Hey, but you got to kind of keep your gangster and your killer aura together because that's all you built your reputation off of.

1:14:33All you talk about is that. So you got to keep going back and be, you know what I'm saying? But that's the irony of becoming a famous drill rapper is that you can become incredibly famous and a huge target for violence, but then there are so few ways for you to monetize that attention outside of like basically pivoting out of the thing that has made you famous which realistically Dirk kind of did it but then also like clearly kept one foot in the streets you know it's like Chief Keef he kind of like entered into his own world and left that shit behind but he's doing great and those are like the great generational talents of drill music whereas for everybody else even somebody like a Vaughn or a Q50 or a PGF Nook who had like a real moment where it felt like they were going to be huge it's like ultimately it's kind of hard to tour the number of artists will work with you is relatively small a lot of like venues and different artists don't want to be associated with you because all the violence and stuff it's just very hard to and like your fan base as a drill rapper is not the kind of fan base that is that has money to spend which is different than like if you're a suicide boys which you know for those who don't know is like a super famous like soundcloud rap group basically they like their fan base is probably like they actually are and they're like the top 20 like biggest tours of all time which is just different than the street shit where like people are just really not spending money on that but let's look at a good example of somebody that came from the drill scene had a pretty successful early rise and then wound up completely oscillating to something new look at bibby bibby started out as a real rapper and what happened again he pivoted out of it had to become a businessman he recognized pretty early that's what i'm saying yes that's the point this identity that i've built up for myself is really not worth continuing to chase right so he's super smart brain i'm about to ask about him because because we follow each other on twitter and she baby wound up managing juice world and kid laroi and wound up getting into stocks and day trading and all kinds of shit and i'm pretty signed q50 and signed q50s i'm pretty sure that dude is very financially comfortable and even look this predates the drill scene there's rappers that like okay probably someone you ain't heard of before there's a rapper that was had a big buzz in new york in the 90s his name was acinelli he had a song called put it in your mouth that was a big like underground hit that fool wound up instead he wound up starting a trucking business and he's a multi-millionaire nothing to do with rap but that's what i'm saying so if you're a hustler and you're smart you're gonna stay fed even the successful rappers look at dr dre where did he make his money from headphones you know it's like even even if you really are doing well for yourself you probably are looking outside of the music 50 50 vitamin water otherwise because if you just leverage if you just make music forever you're basically just like a slave to the streaming services and you have to be someone like uh you have to be like a generational just catalog artist like a nas or an eminem that is gonna just generate revenue for the rest of his life off of rapping and even they diversify and start other businesses yeah it's just like even if you know like jade kiss's opportunities in the late 90s were probably like much more plentiful than q50s opportunities in 2026 you know like right street rappers of yesteryear just weren't so isolated into their own little world because they were still making music that seemed like it could extend out to the outside world but now we're in a weird world where the outside world is far less interested in hip-hop well and also the music industry is far more oversaturated it was a lot more difficult to even get in the studio and record music at that point now all you need is fucking band lab and you can make an album and you can't even you may use ai you can't even take advantage of the content you so you interviewed him a week ago no i interviewed him maybe a year and a half or two years ago in chicago and then i interviewed him again maybe eight months ago here and then you dropped the videos yesterday.

1:18:29Well he had dropped a video a week ago talking about the corn beef. We re-upped some old interview clips. Yeah four clips like so it's like he Adam could take advantage of the content and make money off him. Correct. Adam's making more money off Q50 than Q50 was making off himself. 1000%. He was doing pretty good for a while there. I was having to pay him for interviews and shit. Do you see what I'm saying Les? 1000 % Okay. Undeniable. Like what the fuck? There's a lot of people that profit off of the, um, the demise or misfortune of rappers. Even if the videos didn't do that much, Adam is profiting off his death.

1:19:06Facts. You know what I mean? Like he's not even profiting off his life. Like, you know what I mean? If, if we, if he's doing as bad as he says he is and this and that, like the fact that rappers are in such a bad place that this dude can make money off your death, even whether we agree with it or not, morally. For the record though, a media company has to make money off of all the media that they put out but that's what i'm saying so he he's making it but you're not even setting your life up to where you're making money off your own shit yeah but he was for a while it just it started to slow down a lot and that's like the problem with like literally everybody that we know who starts making money with a career in music whatever is that like okay you have one year where you make two hundred thousand dollars and you think i just made two hundred thousand dollars this year i'm gonna make three hundred thousand four 400 ,000 next year and the world is like, nope, you make it 50 this year.

1:19:56Like everybody thinks it's going to keep going up. And then in reality, you have a big spike and then it settles down the same way. Every YouTube video, big spike settles down. You're lucky once you have that day where your biggest YouTube video gets a million views in a day. You're lucky to settle in at 40K, 50K a day. And then a month later, you're still like, wow, shit, 10K a day. That's still pretty good. But like you'd be a fool to think that it's just going to keep going up. That's usually not how it works. But also you made a very astute observation in your Q50 video where you're like, well, like he clearly doesn't didn't have the same trajectory and wasn't doing as well as he was.

1:20:31And that's probably why he was back in Chicago. Yeah. Like he never would have if he was still had that motion, he never would have been back there. But I do think that Q50 was the kind of guy who was not going to stop being in the hood regardless because he just didn't give a fuck and was just really that guy. I think he was the kind of guy who felt like somebody is going to kill me at some point and I'm not really going to do too much to fight against that. If they want to kill me, we're just going to have a shootout. I'm not going to go out of my way to avoid shootouts. I'm just going to try to win the shootout when the shootout happens.

1:21:02I feel like that was said. That was literally said in the interviews. I know they after me. And that's what it is. What it is. Hey, man, after Dirk and Vaughn, King Vaughn, the dissing of particulars and being real particular about the dissing of shit, even in LA, they got a ceiling. after Dirk and Vaughn you gotta sit in bro that shit ain't you know what I'm saying like how high could J-Bo have gone if that was the majority of his content J-Bo came with a whole new sound though so I think he was gonna he had a pain music bag he's gonna slip through he always had a pain music bag too like yeah like talk about his dad dying yeah but him also he's gonna slip through but you gotta sit in bro so is it are we at the pivot out of that stage you think like it's been but like you could talk about it but make it general but like like like yeah yeah yeah i feel like the streets want something new or like black culture in general like wants something new and realizes it can't just be extremely violent street rap forever but people in general don't really know what the next thing is going to be and then meanwhile it seems unclear to everybody including like me like is there going to be like another big thing or are we destined to just have a lot of little things for the rest of time because that's kind of how it feels is that like LA could have a hot rapper Texas could have a hot rapper Florida as a hot rapper but then none of these guys is going to become gigantic because they're more isolated to their like particular cities I don't think it's black culture like i don't think black culture got tired of it i think i'm just talking about like rap but you're right that this is kind of a thing for everybody for everybody and i feel like the vampires have gotten a feel of of hood shit and that shit which we lived every day we like this is basic shit but now the consumer the vampire that sucked the blood out of it they're now they've had their feel and now they're on to the next thing what's next right and they've gone from gangster rap, from drill rap.

1:23:10All right, we suck this shit dry. All the best guys are dead and in jail. So now let's, we've used that culture. We used them. Now let's go on to the next thing. We got to wait. But then there's no next thing. Well, here's the thing. Exactly. What's the next thing? All right, so we got to wait till your next Kobe and Shaq, you know what I'm saying? Like your producer, and then the person that's going to run with that sound. We got to wait on this next sound. And there could be a rapper so influential and so interesting that they come around and just kind of like reinvent the culture to the point where music just feels so exciting and new and like that that happens throughout time is like you have these like dull periods where it feels like like like before grunge comes out okay i was about to get to that disco is clean and it's polished and everything feels like it's just going to be cocaine and studio 54 for all of time and gets so boring and metal is gross and commercialized and it's hair metal and it's just disgusting and then nirvana comes out and they just disruption they dmx the game even though dmx wasn't out yeah you know and everybody's like right this is raw this is exactly what we wanted that's what hip-hop needs is somebody to come along and do something that's so raw and dope but it's everybody's scratching their head wondering what that's gonna be that's what like xxx cetashium was supposed to be that's what 50 cent was yeah that's like a lot of dudes over the years but it's just in this moment it feels like we might never have that.

1:24:30Because we're not giving hip-hop and rap the same grace that we're giving other music genres. We're not allowing it to have different sub-sectors in rap, in hip-hop. That's all it is now. What is it? It's all different sub-sectors. It's all regional genres. Sing, rapping. Because to a lot of kids, yeet is nirvana. Which is weird to accept, but that's true. And it's just that yeet is not nirvana to the culture as a whole he's that to like a couple million kids and then meanwhile most of us have never really listened okay so so adam when would you say that rock music started to really fall off in a mainstream in a mainstream content 2010 okay 2010 even like lincoln park kind of felt like the the last era because then you then you go like squeaky like like weird like indie hipster shit yeah you had like the white stripes yeah that's like 2009 2010 and then after that it just felt like it was okay boom park had a rap hip-hop element but check this out first one to really do that well in the modern age all right so so chuck berry uh little richard bill haley in the comments that's the 1950s that's when rock music became established as a genre so in about 60 years the lifespan had pretty much cycled and it was forced back into the underground hip-hop the culture started in 1974 rappers delight dropped in 1979 that's 50 fucking years ago 50 years ago so it has the same timeline that rock did so out of rock do we have those are both black genres by the way right yeah of course we all know that but out of rock so this is just for my own ignorance out of rock did did metal and all that come out of rock yes so what i'm saying is rock didn't die.

1:26:13The start of rock died, but metal, all these other things still took off. But rap and hip-hop had the same trajectory. Chopped and screwed music, gangster rap, SoundCloud rap. There's been all these different iterations of hip-hop throughout the years. But doesn't rap have? But look, rap has a ceiling unlike anybody else. Rap has a ceiling way down here. You age out. It's motherfuckers in rock, metal, and all that shit that are doing it way deep into age this is true so like the the turnover in rap is way faster no but i feel like you have a kind of like weird perspective on rock because you're so submerged in rap and mostly know about rap because the truth is is that everybody in rock they age out of that shit too there's occasional bands that are able to maintain long-term fan bases into their older age but there's such a tiny percentage of bands the kids that i was around going to hardcore shows when i I was in high school.

1:27:09I mean, they all were done by 21. Right. It's just like everybody. Okay. So like the Rolling Stones who came out in the late 60s, they had some tours a few years ago still, right? There's about to be a huge tour that's dropping in LA right now. But that's the only band from their era that could still do that. And just like Outkast could still go on tour. Wu-Tang could still go on tour. Nas could still go on tour. And it's fucking huge. But it doesn't like, it's not like if the Rolling Stones dropped a new album, Fools ain't really trying to hear that. What they're creating right now. their old music even even if band halen or bands from the 80s no one's trying to hear that shit at this point like they might there might be a a very small percentage and all you got to do is look at the rock charts like if you look at the rock charts it's bands like imagine dragons the chain smokers who are basically edm adjacent artists the most like the the biggest thing about hip-hop and this is like me and adam have gotten this discussion several times is hip-hop production is prevalent in hella different genres like country and things like that so the aesthetic is kind of there to a degree and it's it's been borrowed and used all over the place the thing that's happening to rap right now is the thing that happened like a decade and a half ago to rock which is that the world as a whole kind of just got the vibe oh we've consumed all of the interesting versions of this genre that we're ever going to find out about there's nothing left to be done so mainstream culture is just going to kind of leave this behind i have seen billy corgan float like conspiracy theories that that rock was like intentionally killed and that the people didn't just get sick of it which is kind of hilarious to me and and seems like totally misguided but just in general it's like the thing that's happening in a rap now or over the last couple years is already happened to like almost every other genre what did he say was the intentional like who intentionally killed it what was his like reason like mtv and the label or the radio or some shit, right?

1:29:00Which is essentially a very similar argument that people were saying with the gangster rap conspiracy, the supposed meeting that was had, and we're going to use this to populate the prison system and things like that. It's analogous to that in a lot of ways. Right. And then, yeah, you can add that into the shit too. Add that into the element of rap. Also, all the dudes is dead. All the dudes is dead, and hip-hop got whitewashed in a very similar fashion that rocked it. Billy Gordon claimed the rock music was deliberately sidelined by the music industry and media to strip rock stars of their cultural voice speaking on his podcast alongside guest conrad flynn the smashing pumpkins from and argued that the decline of rock in the mainstream was an engineered shift rather than a natural change in taste corrigan pointed to 1997 and 1998 when he claimed the mtv abruptly declined decided that rock was out despite its high chart performance replacing it heavily with rap don't make sense he noted yet because think about how many rock groups became extremely successful after that he's just blaming like smashing pumpkins fall off what happened was grunge and alt rock became unpopular and new metal became popular at that exact fucking time that is when corn limp biscuit rage against the machine and those type of bands which incorporated hip-hop elements became popular okay he has a point right here he noted that television standards and practices shifted overnight allowing imagery and themes and rap videos that were previously restricted which is kind of interesting because it's like when you let the big booty chicks shake ass in the video that gives hip-hop a pretty big advantage in terms of keeping people glued to the screen over rock where in rock that's like culturally just like would never make sense how is that true when fucking baby got back rump shaker and all that shit were super popular records in the early 90s and late 80s and rock also had glass yeah we're talking late 90s like at the time that that kind of starts to become more normalized like in 1997 1998 like was that really i i remember a little bit of it that's when the groupie shit started yes the rock star groupie shit with the bitches that was in the 80s like all that girls girls girls guns and roses van halen and all that shit that was popping in the 80s they already had that arc and that's literally what you were just talking about that became out of favor because people thought it was over commercialized and fake and that's what would spawn the birth of grunge music think about rap music on mtv in 1997 it was fucking mo money mo problems and all these like unbelievably shocking visuals the whole hype williams era and then meanwhile you've also got like nirvana well 97 you're kind of like getting out of nirvana and now it's like limp biscuit corn that's all this stuff that blink one one eight they're like late 90s as well they came out like 99 i think 98 99 but but so billy corrigan also highlighted the modern irony that rock bands still sell out massive massive stadium tours globally yet receive almost no representation or voice in mainstream pop culture which you kind of feel like hip-hop is sort of headed towards that where there will be really really popular artists but maybe the mainstream doesn't really choose to glorify them but also we're in a world now where the mainstream can't really do anything for a rapper well and then you also but like still the biggest artist in the world is still drake right and that's today fomo and look at how much content he's putting out right he's putting out content back to back to like he's doing it right and and obviously when kendrick drops there's going to be a huge amount of fanfare and there's going to be a lot of conversation around it more than any rock record but i think it really i think my previous point of it just having a natural shelf life and timing and at this point it's also um conflated with the fact that just all music is so much more accessible not just creating it but consuming it you don't have to go to the record store you don't have to listen to the radio you all got spotify you don't have to collect records because you have an artist's entire catalog at the touch of your finger but would you say this that the one and two in rap right or in hip-hop is the furthest it's ever been from the rest of the group yes so yes because but i would say it's kind of always been like that but if when no matter what when you had jay-z nas tupac snoop this and that you always had groups you had outcast You had this, you had everybody that's still going on inside of that.

1:33:15You had all of the DMX, all of the... Yeah, even the Arrow Awards and Nelly, Eminem, all those guys. Always a bunch of rappers that were all megastars. Yes. You know what I mean? And then you had other right beneath. It wasn't a huge gap in between. Right now, it's a direct, easily transparent, like it's Drake and Kendrick. 100%. And Cole being number three. But those are the artists who are still left over from the time when there was a monoculture. So once we age out of Drake and Kendrick, like at some point, Drake is going to be like a 50-year-old guy. And we're going to be like, man, remember when Drake was awesome?

1:33:51He's still cool, but now he's an old head. It's like we don't have anybody left to take on those spots. What it reminds me of is Vert, BMX Vert. I used to go to the contest, be at the X Games, and I'd realize like, wow, everybody on the podium is 40. and everybody at the skate park is 16 like these guys are the last ones left the fact that there's no 18 year old kids nipping out the 40 year old heels to get great at vert skating or bmx is like an indication that it was dying and now fast forward to today where you can pretty much say it's dead and that's why and same thing like little uzi vert and 21 savage and yadi and those guys are not nipping at the heels of drake because it's hard to become a drake when you don't have the machine propping you up and making you a superstar no it's mandatory yeah and the machines doesn't need to pull that switch anymore because they're looking at the overall like instead of having hip like a bunch of hip-hop artists and like they're pushing certain individuals they're just pushing the the genre but now drake is so to say he did drop those three albums he he's pushing his own ice man right he's pushing his own fm fomo with his own backing you know what i mean could drake and kendrick be the blueprint of how to age in hip-hop you know what i mean because what's the blueprint before them they they are the blueprint however i think that that's way too lofty of a of a standard that most 99.99999 percent of all artists will never be able to even closely mimic or even if they try to it won't yield tangible results but that is clear that's like the ideal you need a chinese blueprint sometimes yeah to engineer the next yeah you know what i mean and then you'll build out of that chinese blueprint and put advances on it let's pivot four supporting acts quit ed sheeran's tour after macklemore is dropped four supporting acts including all scheduled opening acts quit ed sheeran's tour on tuesday after the rapper macklemore was removed for pro-palestinian comments on stage during a recent show hours after Ed Sheeran posted on social media about Macklemore's ouster and attributed the decision to the tour's promoters, Irish acts Aaron Rowe and Bioga, the Danish band Lucas Graham and Phineas, who is notably Billie Eilish's brother, posted on Instagram that they would withdraw from Sheeran's tour.

1:36:16Rowe was one of Macklemore's replacements for Sheeran's remaining U.S. dates while Bioga was serving as Sheeran's touring band. Phineas, who was Billie Eilish's brother and music collaborator was due to tour with Sheeran in South America later this year. Both of them each cited their country's history and their statements explaining the decision. We Irish people who understand colonialism as founding members of the Irish artists for Palestinian or for Palestine movement. We are committed activists for justice and will continue to be. So for the people out there who don't know what happened, basically, Ed Sheeran booked a huge U.S.

1:36:50tour. He gets Macklemore to be his opening artist. For anybody who's paid attention to macklemore over the last couple years he's gotten increasingly political i mean obviously he kind of always was i'm listening to a macklemore interview when he first came out with that thrift stop song thrift shop song and being like holy fuck this guy is the most woke motherfucker i've ever heard like same love as soon as he blew up as a rapper they took him and they sent him to the pelican bay of racial re-education and they're great i thought i was gay just let me talk and just like what the fuck what is wrong with you um but anyway so then he basically continues on he becomes this super anti uh anti-israel pro-palestine uh supporter and then he books this tour maglomore on the first night of the tour basically does this big fuck israel thing and as a result ed sheeran uh becomes under huge amounts of political pressure from israel and basically they say Malcolm Moore cannot continue to be on this tour.

1:37:52The tour will be canceled if he stays on. Ed Sheeran basically has to fall in line, says, okay, Malcolm Moore is removed from the tour. But now we have his entire band, Ed Sheeran's entire band. Vlad is crazy. I just texted this to this group chat. I remember Vlad. Vlad's like, oh, he should just use a DJ. He doesn't need a band. I'm like, holy fuck, Vlad, you're out of touch. But basically, and all his openers have now quit. So he's in this terrible position where, I mean, he's basically just fucked. He can't do anything because they're not going to, the Israelites who are in control of the music industry in these venues, they're not going to let Macklemore on the tour.

1:38:27Now, everybody quit. Ed Sheeran, this is what you get for booking Macklemore on your tour. You shouldn't have done that. Ask that nigga Vlad who do his titles. That's a very separate topic that we could talk about later, but what do you think about this topic? I think Macklemore came into the game being used as a disrespect to hip-hop. Like, he came and robbed Kendrick on that fucking dumbass song when Kendrick should have won the fucking... Yeah, for Album of the Year. Yeah, you know what I mean? And so, I was interested when you said they have put him into Pelican Bay. What did he do to get put into Pelican Bay?

1:39:01Why did they do that? He wasn't in Pelican Bay. No, not literally, but you used it as a... What I was saying is that he's a white guy who blew up as a rapper, and I think immediately his management team slash label slash whatever realized that this is a very, very precarious position to be in. As a white rapper, you're kind of like almost automatically going to be treated as a lightning rod for the racial conversation that was clearly really taking place at that time in America, even though I think Thrift Shop probably blew up in like, what, 2013 or something? It was very early on, seven years before the racial reckoning of 2020, but I think that they preemptively, and I don't know how politically aware he was or how woke he was in advance, But it very much seemed to me that he became like massively educated about the plight of, you know, black people who felt like they were having their culture stolen by white people because he was very much like going to be indicative of that to the outside world.

1:39:57Well, that's why when he beat Kendrick, he wound up basically saying, hey, I didn't deserve this. Kendrick should have won. And he posted on IG the text. That was such an example of like, oh, OK, so you understand your place in this culture. you understand that there's a system in place that favors you over somebody who might clearly deserve this award but then you post the screenshot of the conversation so you're tone deaf even when your sentiment is correct you knew that an injustice had taken place but your way of handling it was very bozo-ish and that also posting a screenshot by posting the screenshot yeah when there's probably a lot of other ways you could have gone about that Like, look, I was apologizing.

1:40:39Or just being like, you know, like, I can't believe I won. Like, that's crazy. I probably, I know, in my opinion, I didn't deserve this. I like Kendrick's album better. That would have been sufficient. That's still pretty self-loathing and unnecessary. But you could tell, if you remember watching that Grammy, that episode of the Grammys, I think it was 2012. So it was like the 2013 Grammys, whatever. this dude um he had like 15 or 20 gay couples getting married on stage while he performed a song called same love about homosexuality and having a gay uncle so he was already even prior previous to that like had political leanings essentially he's been a puppet for the jewish liberal gay media from the jump of his career so until you're fine until you say something that we feel is against us.

1:41:30So you speak up for Khaled. There's a conflation between criticizing Israel and being an anti-Semite, which I think we all probably, like, I think Macklemore is misguided. I think he's fallen for propaganda. That being said, I think he should have the right to say what he wants to say, but the Jews have such a control over society and these venues in the music industry that now you understand why DJ Khaled won't say a shit, a thing about Palestine. He's from there. That's wrong. That's fucking horrible because there are innocent lives that have been taken a ton of children have died you can't come out and stand for innocent children dying and with they're not saying and saying that means you're saying something against the complete jewish community yeah no like you're saying you're saying shit that's that has been done war crimes that have been committed when motherfucking netanyahu is being considered a war criminal and so you're telling me if i speak against him i'm speaking against the whole jewish population no it's an evil trick that the jews love to play on everybody yeah but everybody's woken up to it well uh because bottom line being pro-palestine is not analogous to anti-semitism no at all it's not and it's like it's almost as if we need a crash course in what zionist is what being jewish is and what israel is you know what i mean and it's like everything is getting conflated into each other it's like fuck i can't say but a zionist is just some a jew who believes that israel should be is their deserved homeland you don't even have to be a jew it just you can have that belief system and hence by that definition the most one of the most zionist regions in the world is where middle america because a lot of them lean in that direction and they believe that is correct i need to push their issue their propaganda their narrative and it's like damn this shit is fucking bullshit like you can't speak up for children dying and you have to get kicked off a tour you know what i mean then everybody has to take a stance with you like no fuck that like and i just when does ever saying children matter like fucking get you kicked off a tour okay it's like but that's what they want to conflate uh being opposed to this or this war with is that they want to say oh i'm just anti-children being murdered But in reality, people conceive of that, like the Jewish community conceives of that as you're saying that Israel doesn't have the right to protect themselves.

1:43:54Right. And then tell me what part of that is protection. Fighting against the people that are trying to bomb and kill the civilians from your country. So then now I need to call you anti-Palestinian then. I mean, that's fair. Because guess what? You're saying every fucking Palestinian is a fucking enemy. when it's not. Okay, but what happened when we defeated Hitler? We killed a lot of fucking kids, right? We dropped a lot of bombs. A lot of kids died. You're talking about World War I or World War II? Two. Hitler was in World War II. But it's because kids must die in war. It's just inevitable.

1:44:31Yeah, there's collateral damage. But they have convinced the world that the intention of Israel is to kill children. No, there's war crimes for a fucking reason because of that shit. There's fucking rules in rules of Geneva because of that. And when you break those rules, you're telling the fucking world, we could do whatever the fuck we want. You abide by the laws and the rules, and we'll fucking blow the shit ton out of this place. I'm not denying that Israel's for sure broken rules or done things that were too extreme or whatever, but keep in mind that there were protests at Harvard on October 8th before Israel had even responded fighting against Israel's right to respond and i think that that's why these uh the zionists basically like take issue with people acting as if they can't respond is because they feel like the limitations that are placed upon israel are unfair when you consider all the other shit that everybody else gets away with well i'm curious what his what macklemore's specific statement was because if he because i don't think he said anything like oh the tiny hats that are running no yeah he didn't say no but i'm clear i'm curious to what the limitations on israel is as far as like how How much can you critique them without getting...

1:45:41Yeah, like what he just said, the limitations that Israel has when they bypass every fucking law. Well, as far as that can be... Even you saying that, they would say that that's the result of you being effectively propagandized, too, that you believe that Israel has done things that were so terrible in this conflict that Hamas has not done. So not one time have I said Hamas. Right. Right? But that is who Israel is at war with, right? No, but so we cannot, because the same thing that you're just saying about saying everything for a Jewish is anti-Semite, we can't say, we can't conflate Palestine with Hamas.

1:46:15Hamas is who Israel's at war with. Yeah, but they're killing Palestinians. Yeah. But Hamas has embedded themselves within Palestine to an extent where you like, you really couldn't fight against Hamas without killing a lot of innocent civilians. And they intentionally do that. That is essentially their military. So at what point is Hamas? many Palestinian innocent lives is worth one Hamas? I mean, and when we start doing that balance and doing that value, it's like, okay, so it doesn't fucking matter. We can just blow you off the fucking planet. Well, that has always been how it is in war is like, no, if you want to.

1:46:52Yeah. But I mean, when we drop bombs on a Hamas leader, you might kill 10 innocent people and nobody thinks that there's anything wrong with that. So tell me what was the last time the destruction of what Palestine has taken right now compared to a war of the past? I mean, it's probably not that hard to find one because I think there's only like 50 ,000 casualties or something. If you look at Palestine right now, it is completely devastating. Per capita. You've been effectively propagandized, too. It's like 50 ,000 does, not that many. What? But they also have a pretty small population. But you've been so propagandized, too, that you believe that this war is extremely unique.

1:47:28So 50 ,000 to what's their population? I don't know. But you can't say 50 ,000 and then not say what their population is because 50 ,000 changes the dynamics. If it's not that many, if it's versus 100 million versus 1 million. Well, there is 50 over 50 ,000 American soldiers died during the entire Vietnam War, which was considered a huge L for America. How many? Yeah. Like 50 ,000. at least 76 ,000 Palestinians have been reported killed in Gaza and the pre-war population was 2.2 million meaning roughly 3.5 % of the population has died and what the fuck that's pretty insane are you joking me 3.5 % of a population so if it's 3.5 % of the population how much of that population was Hamas but you realize that they could stop the war right now they just have to hand over the hostages So you're saying that Israel has the right to take out buildings with people in there that are innocent.

1:48:27But now you're saying that the innocent people have the opportunity to take out Hamas. I just I think the issue is that you think that that is so unique when that is what war is. I think it's unique that you can't talk out against it. No, but that you know. OK, but that's different than like, should Israel be able to blow up the buildings of the people that they're at war against? So things can be correct. No, I don't think so. but they can and that is how war works but look at what happened to America when we hit a fucking building, a school building of little girls, look at how it was treated, we were very sympathetic but we didn't actually have to do any consequences from it besides bad PR, right?

1:49:04that was one thing now think if we just kept doing that what do you think the backlash that was a mistake so purposely doing it is better purposely doing it is worse correct so think if we saw what don't don't do that thing don't do the thing where you laugh like because you have such a good point i can't explain it but i'm laughing i'm laughing since you guys know i got a point so look if they so i said they accidentally you said it accidentally didn't which is which is not as bad as purpose yeah intent is always purposely doing it right i wouldn't say they're purposely killing kids but they are at war with hamas and who else are they going to bomb so if they're at war with hamas and they're purposely hitting these buildings now Now imagine if America did that shit.

1:49:48If we were hitting buildings right now full of children and we killed 76 ,000 innocent people if we did that shit. 5 % of the population. 5 % of the population. Modern drone warfare kills a lot less innocent people than the types of wars that we used to do. Yeah, this is actually by far the least violent time in the history of the world. if you want to compare this to feudal Japan or the dark ages and things like that that's far more important you look at the murder rate of America as a whole and it's like oh wow we are at an amazing point in our history absolutely but you would have a really really hard time convincing people of that because they are so much more aware of the murders that are taking place day to day because you're comparing a massive land how big is Palestine?

1:50:34small New Jersey? yeah at best yeah it is yeah it's very small probably way smaller than Jersey that's what I'm saying so if all that's to if all of the murders in America took place in Jersey, stop comparing apples to oranges. Like, this is not - Well, talking about the murder rate being lower now than it was 30 years ago, it's not comparing apples to oranges. It's comparing this year to a year 30 years ago. You're not talking about density. But you're still talking about Palestine when we were just talking about the murder rate over there. Yeah, that's the topic at hand, is Palestine. And by the way, all Macklemore said was free Palestine.

1:51:07That's fucking crazy. New Jersey is three times larger than Palestine. So not much. So yeah, that's pretty similar. So it's even worse. It's like the size of Connecticut. That's wild, man. That's even worse. Okay, so during an Ed Sheeran concert on September 4th, 2026, Malcolm Moore wore a keffiyeh and shouted, Free Palestine, and performed his Gaza protest song, Heinz Hall. The slogan, Malcolm Moore told the crowd, Free Palestine will open his show in Jersey. He stated that the people in Gaza and the West Bank should know that they are not forgotten. He played videos of war destruction on the big screen.

1:51:37I could imagine that being pretty. Because up until that, I was like, man, man, this shit is not bad at all. He's just saying free Palestine. That's not like saying, fuck Israel. They consider that fuck Israel. Yeah, because you're showing the destruction that they perpetrated on that area. And then, yeah, pro-Israel groups like the Israel American Council complained and asked for his removal. Stadium owners led by Robert Kraft gave an ultimatum that removed Maglomore from the rest of the tour. And Maglomore defended his free speech on Instagram and said that he stands by his message. But also that Hind Hall.

1:52:10I don't know what that song is. No. But it's criticizing. I'm sure it's like a lyrical display of what he was. Exactly. So how is it okay for Robert Kraft to stand up for Israel and somebody not to stand up for Palestine? How is it okay for somebody to stand up for PETA and for someone else to stand up for the Klan? So if one, you're comparing PETA to the fucking Klan? It's called an example, but I'm just saying. Dogs to humans? Animals to humans? there could be two sides of a conflict and one of them can have like less uh validity uh you know ethically than the other but there's nothing that will happen to you if you say free israel correct free israel from what from whatever they seem plenty free they deserve the right to to exist if you they have it yeah but if you say that no one's gonna punish you because like oh you're speaking against palestine yeah so that's like saying like that's like saying free lush like There's nothing to free him from.

1:53:10The bondage of addiction, honey. There's a lot to free him. You know what I'm saying? I think that ultimately the only difference is who has the power. Boom. That's the difference. It's power dynamics. Yeah, Robert Kraft owns stadiums, venues, football teams. If he has a perspective that he doesn't want anti-Israel stuff to be said at his venues, which I'm sure this hasn't happened without him having a huge amount of pressure put on him by the Israel lobby. This ain't the first thing either. Yeah, because he wanted that bread from the event and all that shit. But ultimately... Handjobs. I think it's pretty obvious that Macklemore knew what was going to happen when he did this.

1:53:45He's not dumb. I'm pretty sure he knew that he was going to get yanked. He probably knew that this was his opportunity to make a big splash and look how good it worked, you know? And this is the first time we've even mentioned Macklemore in a long-ass time. Ever. Yeah. No, his music is horrible. That's what I'm saying. It's been a fat minute since he's been brought up, so... And it's also kind of crazy that after that Kendrick kerfuffle, that like, I don't think he ever had a moment where anyone in hip hop ever paid attention to him again. Unless I'm forgetting about something. Not at all. You're right.

1:54:12But that, but that was still monocultural times where like Macklemore just like, he's really popular. So we have to talk about him in hip hop. And I don't, I don't know, but I also feel like Macklemore kind of like maybe intentionally removed himself from the hip hop discourse, because if you're Macklemore, like you don't need to be doing like, you should really really really not want to win album of the year if you're macklemore like that is such a dangerous position for you to be in well and macklemore was a underground artist previous to that he was like literally on the same circuit as groups like atmosphere and things that were just all too yeah dude macklemore's opened up for me before like opened up for me in like 2008 2009 he's from seattle and was doing shows in california and stuff like that so i think that this all kind of he was surprised that he was the one that broke through and was potentially going to be the next great white hope in hip-hop culture he has to have some kind of fucking relevance for like for ed sheeran to like right but imagine if this was kendrick then like how much more of a big deal this would have been if this was cole or kendrick okay here we go i asked did malcolm moore fall off after 2013 yes he experienced a sharp commercial decline after his historic 2012-2013 peak though he never completely stopped making music or touring.

1:55:27His breakout album The Heist produced global chart-topping singles like Thrift Shop, Can't Hold Us, and Same Love. Those three songs are all so gigantic. That is pretty shocking and when you really think about it as much as we appreciate Good Kid Mad City, I mean it's kind of hard to argue with those three fucking singles right there. Well, the dude that produced the entirety of that album he stopped working with as well, which I found interesting. Ryan Lewis? Yeah, he stopped working with him after that album so um okay so the bright pop rap sounds of the early 2010s faded as trap music and newer rap styles took over the mainstream that is true because like three years later you have bad and bougie like the biggest rap song in the year you know like that it's kind of faded away but but to pimpa butterfly came out after that there is like cole had his whole entire arc and things like there's a lot of like alternative conscious rappers but as much as Macklemore does have a bunch of big songs like him getting to open for fucking Ed Sheeran nuts on a huge stadium tour is such a gift.

1:56:26Yeah, because Ed Sheeran is a monster. Like he's huge. But are we sure like, OK, are we sure that Macklemore doesn't is not cracking right now? Like he's not like cracking. Not like he used to be. He's not in the he hasn't. I can't name a Macklemore single except for this one that was just mentioned. But also like when you think about that genre of music, like I watched an Ed Sheeran interview sort of recently where he was talking about the fact that he knows that he's not a Taylor Swift. When Taylor Swift drops an album, it's going to sell a million copies first week because she has that rabid fan base.

1:56:58Meanwhile, Ed Sheeran has huge songs. His biggest songs are as big as the biggest Taylor Swift songs. But meanwhile, he drops an album and he does like not that much. He'll do like 10K first week or whatever. But then those songs will slowly bubble up and become fucking gigantic. He's just got that kind of fan base where they're not dying to hear what he has to say, but those songs will eventually become earworms that infect huge amounts of people. For sure. I mean, the thing is, do you think that Ed Sheeran kind of knowingly put him in this position or he wouldn't want to tank his entire tour, right?

1:57:35There's no way he'd want to do that. I think Ed Sheeran would not have done this if he knew how this was going to go. Everybody was going to bail on him. And because the last thing that Ed Sheeran wants is people acknowledging and facing up to the fact that he is unwilling to take a stand on, which I don't really think, I think it's a great idea for him to not take a stand on. But I'll tell you, man, I know things behind the scenes. Like, I know celebrities who have basically taken anti-Israel positions and had very bad things start happening in their personal life. Like things that no one knows about because nobody wants to even talk about the shit that happens.

1:58:11Like Israel is really on some mafia shit. Yes. Like, but, but like crazier than I knew up until very recently. Mossad. Like, are you joking me? Like the shit that they do with, like, I don't even want to get into. But that's part of why they are so powerful. They just cultivate a world in which like people are scared to take them on. Yeah. And they have a big backing in us. You know what I mean? Like we, we back the fuck out of them and it's just like, damn. Hey. they picked the winners. It's pretty crazy, man. I just can't believe that the whole, that his band and the openers all left. Like, he's so fucked.

1:58:46Like, it's just like, what could he do? So is the - I lost millions of dollars. Is the tour over? I would assume. Oh, yeah. I mean, or he's got a DJ. Because, listen, there's so much controversy surrounding it that there are some things he could do. Like, he could find a couple bands that are down to open. maybe last minute probably not he could use a dj or like get musicians to fill in for his band but all of it's gonna be such a bad look because then all those people are gonna know what they're signing up for and how it's gonna look and then every night what are you gonna have you're gonna have people sneaking palestinian flags yeah yeah it's a wrap yeah yeah yeah yeah he has to bring on kid rock but here's the thing is though ed sheeran has such a ravenous fan base i don't think any of these opening acts were really driving a significant portion of the traffic that were buying those tickets probably not but also when people get into the studio or into the stadium for four hours there's got to be something yeah it's like you're watching some shitty band that you never heard of but at least you're like doing something for 30 minutes anyway i probably should have done this multiple hours ago but i just want to say football is finally back and prize picks is bringing their best offer yet new users who sign up will get 150 in lineups if you win your first$5 lineup.

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2:01:28Run your game. Why do you keep looking at me? It's like you wanted to say something the whole time. Somebody wants to call into the show. I don't know if you want to hear from them or not. Has this person face fucked German recent memory? Oh, they've been face fucked. Would you like to hear from this person? Why not speak to the face fucky? Oh, my Lord. Let's see what they got to say. Show you one of that list? Let's see what they got to say. Tell her not to yell at me. Hey. Hey, what's going on? Wait, somebody else got to call. Mikey. Hey, we're going to call you from a different line because my phone's a little janky right now.

2:02:01All right. I feel like you're not putting it on speaker. No, no, it's on speaker. This phone's fucked. Yeah, I'm going to share her contact with you. I'm going to have to put you on my plan, bro. No, for real, bro. You could do that. Yeah. Oh, here you go. Hey, I thought Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift separated. No, she was just at the game, super excited about his six rushing yards at the tail end of his career. Hey, they have one of the most successful, him and his brother. Yeah. Jason and Travis, they're doing really good. I did watch one episode of that, and it was the episode where Taylor Swift was on the episode.

2:02:37Did you watch it on your own, or did you watch it with – I watched it – I don't remember if I watched it with my girl, but I knew that I was going to be quizzed on it, so I absolutely had to watch it. Study that shit. Oh, I just sent it to – Just do it on his. I don't want her having my number. She's going to be hitting me up. You could have blocked it. She's going to try having me Facebook her. and hey I might not be the one to say no I can't do that to my buddy Lush I can't face fuck your ting that is not my ting what are you guys' predictions for FOMO tonight I'm pretty excited we gonna see no FOMO I don't know what the fuck to expect man like at least some good music that's attached to it you gonna throw a game of Hollywood?

2:03:23no I don't think you're going to hear a lot of new music, to be honest. Okay. Oh, my God.

2:03:33Hello. Hello. What's going on? Is it turned up? Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. So how do you feel about this pretty controversial pick that leaked? Yeah, how's your throat feel? I mean, look, I understand they're doing that because, like, I... I've seen his lineup, so I understand he's probably excited. He's like, oh shit, my first baddie or some shit. I don't know. But I wouldn't have gone out my way to show that particular picture being that one, he wasn't to full fruition, you know what I mean? And two, it's not flattering on his end. Three, it's like, man, keep it P. You don't gotta like, and I understand maybe he did that as a means to demoralize Lush finally but i feel like um as time went on you just see like lush got over it everybody's over it except that's what's up let's just give this no more light it's like well yeah but you're it's easy to get over it when you're the one who just had a big old chalupa down your throat i think big is very generous hell no my boy gangster as fuck he got a big old thing on him if you think shit that i've been that i've been jason love you are apparently that's love but i mean you know shit we're grown i did what i did let's cut over here he's cool like we're still homies you see that like we ain't going nowhere the fuck why did you top him off did you just really want to or was like what was it so how do you feel how do you feel about um this is now the second time you've had unbeknownst to you footage slash pictures leaked of your sexual escapades?

2:05:17I mean, here's the thing. It's always some dude in his feelings doing that type of shit. It's never like, like I'm not the one running and telling the internet, oh shit, check it out. This is what I, because there's no benefit to it. It's like, you know, I mean, what more can you do? Like if you just want your name on the headlines, well, there's your headline. Like I'm not running and feeling no type of way about it, like being flattered or anything. It doesn't make me look good. You know, shit, we were being petty, and you know how we play our game, Lush, so we got even, we got it. Well, yeah, like I said, we both were upping the score on each other.

2:05:48Yeah, pretty much, and that's how we did it, but, you know, there's no hard feelings here. Literally, no hard feelings. So, I'm not really sure. So, do you feel about, how do you feel, are you going to be taking any action from a legal standpoint, lawsuit? Something like, he shouldn't be leaking anything else out. It's like, I couldn't even get a hold of him to tell him to take it down Because at this point I'm blocked I've had him blocked for a minute Well it's not about, it's already out of his hands He told a young lady we both know that She told him to post it on Instagram Because last time she sent me a picture of some fat lady sucking him off And I was like, what the fuck?

2:06:28And he's like, oh yeah, my bad, my girl got into my phone And I was like, okay You know, so I never know It could just be, I don't know who the source is I'm at a mature point where I'm like Don't give a fuck people didn't see me Do this shit already before Might as well start at OnlyFans at this point Yeah can I hit No I mean I'm actually starting a labor company It's gonna be called OnlyHands So if you guys are interested please sign up That's really funny I mean I'm not looking for this type of publication Here it is though so The homie Adam's trying to spike too What's up Yeah yeah I'm a performer can I get in there Adam is trying to spike as well I don't need to go work on them hair plugs, bro.

2:07:10As long as we're doing personal attacks, you want me to tell you everything that's wrong with you? Look out of here. Nah, y 'all be talking to my shit. Well, look, it's all love at the end of the day. Like, I'm not. I think I'm going to win. No type of war. Even though you're a cop caller, Adam. Yeah, well, you be such a fucking snitch dick, so I don't even know what you're going to be saying. Like, was it weird fucking to drop out after being with a joint for a couple years there? bro like you're sucking ball player dick i mean maybe i should level up to the way you do it well but i i didn't actually ronaldos yeah i didn't suck a dick and then meanwhile we just saw you getting face fucked by a dropout that's kind of crazy right okay i think like what you're saying doesn't land in quite the way that you think it is but um i just want to know like are you going to feel kind of like dirty tonight when you're thinking about the fact that the whole world that's seen you getting banged out by this fucking dirty ass sushi salesman?

2:08:06No type of way. Look, Lush is in rehab. Came back better. You said I couldn't move the needle, but I moved that fool straight into rehab. What do you mean? Moving your ex-boyfriend into rehab isn't the same as moving the needle. Jesus moved me into rehab, to be fair. It's way better for you. You're welcome, bro. Because otherwise you probably would have had a body in your hands. Not like you care. Not like you care. Half the people that come around either go to prison or either go to the hospital. Half the people that go around you end up getting their dick sucked. Anyway, hope you have a good day moving chairs around or setting up stages or whatever.

2:08:41We'll talk to you later. All right, Jerm. Jerm the black sheep. Y 'all is crazy. What is this? Like, what is it that, like... Sometimes you got to cook a hyena. Jeez, ladies. Like, how do you feel? Like, you say that that's like you care about it, isn't it? Oh, I mean, that's my homie. you know what I'm saying like she's my friend they agreed to be friends from now on just like he my friend you know like it's not that big of a deal I think at this point I kind of I feel like she's probably happy about it if I'm really being honest I don't think I don't think she's mad at that being leaked I mean she said she is she's hitting me up like oh my god but I the vibe I was getting from that call I wasn't really feeling shame or embarrassment No, no, no.

2:09:32That's what I was trying to tell you. That, you know, the Mexican homegirl, we both know, she said that he told her that she told him to post it. I mean, that's what I'm saying. I would not be surprised. But, I mean, there's definitely fake outrage going on in my text. And she just, you know. Her lack of concern. Some other personal information of Raiders fell into my lap, but I'm not going to, you know. Go ahead. Bless it. Fuck it. I mean, I believe there's crimes against that. Hey man, being a good guy and a nice guy is two different things. Blast that shit. No, no. I'm trying to avoid potential ramifications as a result.

2:10:07I didn't go to jail for the motherfucking revenge porn. You ain't gonna go eat the bag. Say it. No, no. It's got nothing to do with that. But I'll tell you off cam. It's just personal information of his. We'll leave it at that. But personally, I can't... I really wish that I could feel more regarding this, but I don't have... I'm not upset. That's kind of how I feel too. I'm not mad in any capacities It's kind of offensive to them when you don't feel enough Well the whole thing is like I'm kind of embarrassed for both of them It's like damn Second hand embarrassment Yeah it's like damn this is what like I didn't realize I was that much I knew I was the biggest joint But I didn't know I was fucking You ain't no fucking grandissimo I didn't know I was the biggest joint in the world Damn like is it that important That my ex topping off A mid tier podcaster trying to cloud off of me is not a podcaster yeah exactly i'm sorry he's been on every podcast in la so he was trying but yeah failed podcaster am i kind of shooting us in the foot by including macklemore ruins ed sheeran's tour as part of the the title of this podcast like is that gonna is that gonna like directly basically be like telling the fans like hey don't watch this don't watch i don't think it's gonna move the needle it's about some shit that y 'all don't know about i don't know like i'm not gonna lie me seeing that headline right now was the first time I ever saw it.

2:11:27Oh, for real? Yeah. I realized that when you didn't know about the YouTube views getting calculated differently. Everyone can hear you, Jerm. Everyone can hear you just fine. Yeah, we're not trying to hear more from you. Okay. Goodbye. You could hurt. Oh, Jerm. The question is, do I spin the block and face fucker myself just so I can do it? If you can fuck without feelings, then you're cool. What's the pros and cons? The pro is you get some top and you get to feel a little bit more in control of the situation that currently feels a little out of your hands right but then the cons are you're going back to your old thing it might turn into an emotional thing where all of a sudden you guys got like some weird emotional shit going on which is kind of a pain in the ass you know there is a zero percent chance of me feeling especially the the means of which our intimacy would be like there's not going to be there's nothing healthy about that relationship dude oh no for sure that shit is fucking unhealthy but like like i'm like just sitting on the outside looking in how is there any value to there i mean like she's the homie like at the end of the day i should have never i pushed for that relationship i should have never made that my bitch that was a huge huge gross miscalculation coming from a place of desperation if you want to hear more about it tune into the next episode of blind leading the blind because we discussed it in great detail.

2:12:52Hey, look, people got to know the difference between being loyal and faithful. You know what I mean? Boom. She did some disloyal shit about giving him the gerb, but you know what I mean? Well, I mean, I can't really say that's unfaithful because we weren't together. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, I agree. You got to know the difference between loyal and faithful. I think that was disloyal of her to do it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But, you know. Don't say anything. Nice. That's fire. I love that. okay w that's why i can't cry um yeah no i can't cry for you either don't cry for me argentina so how do we feel about the zestiest podcaster in la t-rel getting like ruining kendrick's rollout of his verse on the az chike aka az chike what's ask chike what's uh on them uh basically okay try to break this down step by step so we've all heard through the grapevine that kendrick has been deeply involved in the rollout of az chike's next album which i believe is coming out thursday 18th yeah t-rel was on a podcast and somebody said asked him what he thought about it or they basically figured out that he had already heard it he says i heard it that fool was going crazy he was shooting at everybody everybody who said anything dissed kendrick at all they were all getting shots so then yesterday az check drops the track list it's got tyler the creator on it two times no kendrick so the question is is kendrick like a not listed feature that we're going to end up hearing when the album drops which now all of I'm on the hook.

2:14:45I actually want to hear it now to see what gets said.

2:14:50Or did Kendrick decide last minute that he didn't want to put this song on the album? And is it possible that he made that decision because of the zestiest podcaster in LA, T-Ral, sort of spoiling it by telling the world that he heard the song and that he's shooting at everybody or whatever? Both options are possible. It could be a ghost feature or he could be saving it for his own project. There's also the possibility that because T-Rail dropped the dime, because Kendrick's very strategic with his diss records, always has been. It could be like since that information was leaked that Dot is now like, all right, I'm going to make it seem like this isn't coming out, but it still might drop regardless.

2:15:36He just might because now that's giving. if I'm anybody that feels like they may get dissed I'm already pimping the pen at this point I will disclose that as soon as I realized that Kendrick wasn't on the track list sent it to the boy right away and his immediate response was nah it's probably a secret feature because he as much as T. Rouse said that the boy had already told me that he heard the same thing that he was talking very spicy on this feature which is it going to be control verse level Is it going to be not like us level? We don't really know. But it seems like a kind of poorly hidden secret that this was going to be a particularly notable Kendrick verse.

2:16:18And if you look at, I mean, like, if you look at Kendrick, literally the most poignant moments of his career have all been battle rap related, essentially, from, like, the ones you did. Those are the two biggest moments he's really had. Yeah, I mean, all his, like, whisper music is kind of ass. all of his like political shit is like realistically like he's pretty much doing that for himself nobody's trying to hear that shit so when he when he gets in his rap battle like like the only reason he was able to get hot was because drake gave him the opportunity to get hot by initiating the battle yeah well i mean like you you could you could include um we gonna be all right being used as the official uh black lives matter protest record which was a very big cultural moment um but other than that it really has been yeah he's had huge hits right but a lot of them but they're but but they're not like necessarily culturally defining moments as much as because battle raps always and disc records are always going to be more exciting than damn near anything else but did drake really set off the beef i think kendrick set it off on that uh on that uh uh metro and and future record true but that was kind of in response to the the bars that he had on first person shooter which were also which and then which kendrick could have ignored them talking about him on first person shooter but then drake could have ignored the the like that verse you know that wasn't so direct that drake had to go at him drake could have kind of like laugh it off if he wanted to but drake drake wanted the smoke and got dealt with the consequences for better or for worse and it was clearly a targeted attack because uh fuck the big three it's just me came with a gang of other people then immediately getting on Drake's helmet but now we also know that Drake like basically reached out to Kendrick to have him on that song in an attempt to kind of squash whatever the tension had been it felt like I feel like if Drake was willing to ask that that basically says a lot about where the beef was at it wasn't that serious if he thought that Kendrick might hop on the song or at least he didn't think it was that serious and then Kendrick basically resented the fact that he said that he was alluded to multiple times on that song.

2:18:28Or it's like you initiated the shit, now you want to call it off. Well. You did the transgression, but now it's like, hey, let's be cool. But what was Drake's transgression? The song coming to Compton and doing the shit. Well, honey, people don't listen to it close enough. I think that was, that wasn't at the forefront of most people's minds at that time even though now it seems pretty clear that that was a huge factor. To Kendrick. okay yeah but what about i wonder how much drake was aware of the fact that that particular incident was so notable but also maybe that wasn't the biggest issue because also that video in 2016 is way after wait what you're in troverse like that was like 2013 yeah yeah 2012 and that was 13 it was 13 and then after that um drake responded by being really indignant and upset most people that were mentioned were psyched like oh shit i got mentioned amongst the best when you watch the the what's the dirt video and you see the radio show and the the crown interview with elliot wilson and stuff you realize like drake really didn't like that control verse and he did not take it on the chin like the way that like kind of everybody else did well people were more offended by being left off that verse that was like if i would i would have been honored to be on there any of those guys like mac miller and um asap a lot of those dudes weren't tripping at all that they got mentioned but then um but then kendrick had like a slew of not so subliminal disses like in the bet freestyle like tuck a sensitive rapper back in his pajama clothes that whole shit like so he was he was getting at him for a while and and it culminated in drake eventually extending the olive branch with the big three thing i think a lot of that was motivated by cole as well if we're being fair and they and drake just knowing how to create a cultural moment because that could have potentially been one for all three of them kendrick was like nah fuck that and then he used that as a cultural moment you'd be like hip-hop yeah for rap yeah yeah yeah that would have been big for hip-hop 100 better at jay-z what he's gonna say well i mean yeah because jay clearly has drawn a line in the sand or had for a long time and it's weird because all these people at one point had been cool with drake but okay but back to it do you think that kendrick is petty enough to do this like what's the truth behind this so then if if T-Rell was telling the truth did he did T-Rell mention where the leak came from if it was from AZ Chike or if it was from Kendrick no I mean you would and then you would kind of assume that he probably heard it from well I guess he don't really fuck with the Apollo so probably didn't hear it from them because the Apollo were pretty critical of T-Rell even saying what he said because okay classically TDE has always been like one of the most tight-lipped record labels in the history of rap I have always been in awe of the fact that they are able to go their separate ways with artists that they'll have an artist sign for four or five years and they'll never even put an album out and like somehow it never boils over to the point where those people are talking shit we could point out like the reason situation but that didn't really get that heated on that same platform which was a back on fake thing but like that that you know there's just basically been like so many situations Kendrick didn't put an album on for five years because he was in the process of leaving TDE and somehow that never became like a public conversation always been impressed by that but now that's dope you've got the Apollo and they're all up in the mix with TDE and to be fair they I don't think have really been like responsible for spreading a lot of like insider info from TDE no but but T-Rell being that he like every day wakes up in the wreckage of his own career and has to really kind of like deal with the realization that he's bankrupt and that he has nothing going on in life.

2:22:07He is so thirsty to have any kind of insider information about TDE that he has fucked up his chance of ever getting any kind of like preferential treatment from Kendrick or TDE. And it was all for what, for him to basically now be known as the guy who's like the reason why the check verse didn't come out. But who, who gets preferential preferential treatment from TDE and PG lane? You know what I mean? Like they keep it pretty close knit, right? keep it kind of close like there's not really anybody that can say big boy had the last kendrick interview you know like a nadeska and ebro did the last or the actual last kendrick interview during the gnx album cycle so they with like you know something like big boy that's easy to understand it's huge though nadeska and ebro that's apple so they got to do to stay and good with the streaming services but and he had scissor interviewing but it'd be more like and then like a Q connection.

2:22:57It's more of a, they're more connected to Q and then Matpop is more Kendrick, you know what I mean? Because that's his boy or whatnot that grew up. So I don't think that there's, so if this is true, if this is all true, do you think Kendrick will make AZ Chike suffer because of what somebody else did? That is kind of why it's hard to imagine. If Kendrick really spent three months of his life working on the AZ Chike album, which in and of itself is kind of flabbergasting like you're not financially invested in this at all but you're that interested in it it's kind of shocking but then to be like and he won't allow him to use one minute of kendrick rapping and like is t-rel saying that he was going crazy dissing people like is that reason enough to not put the whole verse out it's kind of weird like if you're gonna do a real disverse is it really that troubling that somebody might call it a disverse before it comes out i mean like or but maybe it's not a disverse and t-roll was talking out of his ass and that's gonna set the stage in a weird way because people are gonna think they're getting all this heat and then they won't i think it's more what drake says it's a surprise you know i'm saying it still will come out but i do think that he was dissing people because drake had heard that as well and he's like the one person who's not supposed to hear that right but then you're gonna screw az chike who who also pulled his verse off of some shit recently in support of you I just don't think but now did AZ Chike let them hear did he release that and then Kendrick was like fuck that shit I don't know well since 2012 Kendrick has had only a handful of features he doesn't really give that many artist features they're all pretty notable I remember him on New Freezer by Rich the Kid but he has notably dropped Baby Keen, DJ Walla Cardi I think he gave SZA verse he's dropped a bunch of verses janei aiko got a verse the other day right that nobody gave a fuck about like that's what it's fucking banger but there's but it's still less than 15 verses i want to say he's featured on for other artists he drops less than like any other big rapper correct so that being said he is very particular about what he puts out has a high level of control no pun intended so maybe he did want to pull it but i think i think my initial point of it being a battle rap strategy move because why would you want to give the enemy the drop that you finna get on the helmet that's giving Drake and everybody else now time to prepare rebuttals already but you're also hurting the bottom dollar of somebody you fuck with so that's right that is major to have on your album like to have a Kendrick feature I think it's still on there though yeah I think it's still on there it's probably just a trick yeah yeah I think that I don't I genuinely think that he probably didn't want it to come out somebody clearly in the camp couldn't hold water and it got to the wrong people and it got out so they had to be like oh it's off the album but it's probably still going to drop if i did if i was just going to bet dollars of donuts it would be weird to make az chucks suffer for the sins of t-ral but at the same time anyone well i mean that that is what it would be right that's like accurate description but another way to look at it is that anyone who has been on back on fig is part of the problem and probably deserves to have bad things happen and have Kendrick versus removed from their album so Honey If Munchie gets hit by a car I'm gonna be like damn that was the homie But he did go on back on fig So you do I'm shocked she isn't Leonard too T-Rex DM Leonard would be on it Is that crazy Okay I think Heather and Leonard have a fire ass podcast together That would be fire Tinfoil hat conspiracy this is all a play and it was just to fuck with people the whole time and there's going to be a completely unrelated verse that comes out and t-rel is in on it no i doubt it yeah i don't think so either that's why i said tinfoil hat but i'm just someone's going to say that at some point does this help or does this hurt though this is promo this is conversation generated around the house now the academics knows who az chike is now like he didn't know he's like hating on him and making up nicknames.

2:27:05Yeah. Like, how are you a hip-hop person and you don't know one of the guys out from the West Coast, from the whole side? Like, you don't know. Okay, so it is so like, okay, Act just don't, he don't fuck with the West Coast. That's what it shows. Okay, but AZ Chike is not a big rapper. What the fuck are you guys talking about? I mean, but if you're a part of hip-hop, like, you, they say he's one of the biggest hip-hop medias right now. But I think Act cares about hip-hop that moves the needle. Dude, Act has a fucking OVO chain. That's why he's pretending he doesn't know who AZ Chike is. Well, I think he actually probably doesn't know who he is, but then he's also like emphasizing it and making jokes out of it because he wants to shit on them.

2:27:44Shit on them. Yeah. Yeah. But that would be like a biased, unprofessional thing. Like, you know what I mean? Like you're just going to be willfully blind or ignorant to a whole coast when this is a part of - But he's not a relevant artist from this coast. No, no, no, no, no. But just like not to be so stuck on that, it seemed like he just like west coast and somebody pointed that out to me i started paying attention like damn like what made him feel that way he came out here got roger's room well the whole west coast is now rocking with kendrick no no no pre that i would say he's one of the more relevant uh up and coming artists that he just did a song with with tyler the crater and like there's a it would be hard to say like if you are a staple in hip-hop and and rap that you don't know who a like a up-and-coming major like thing is like if we're being honest who has more trajectory as far as like mainstream looks that's i mean we know there's a lot of people that are you know arguably significantly more talented do you know who fully chop is from chicago don't ask you know who little speedy is these artists are so much bigger than az check they have actual real fan bases in a way that az doesn't and i i have nothing against az check he's cool i got no problem with them i don't know but there's a ton of like real labels and shit but i'm all i'm saying is that like az check might seem like a thing if you've kind of got your head in the sand and are just paying attention to la but to the outside world throughout the rest of america this is not like a an artist who's like relevant enough that anybody should be thinking about them now that being said so like for me i could name all the artists on gnx off the top of my head because i have more skin in the game when it comes to the west coast but it's not like surprising to me that but Ak wouldn't really know about Easy Chek, right?

2:29:24And he went at Joey Badass. I mean, I'm pretty sure that Ak, I'm surprised that he doesn't, and I still kind of think he might because he did analyze GNX when it dropped. He knows there is a bunch of local up-and-coming West Coast artists on there. I personally feel like Akademic's tone when it comes to having conversations about Kendrick and TDE has worsened significantly since that time period. I think he was more willing to give GNX a fair listen during that time period. Whereas now, I feel like he's a little bit more like, okay, let's just sort of keep dirt upon anybody who's Kendrick adjacent, regardless of the truthfulness of the situation.

2:30:05Why though? Because he's so much more explicitly OVO now. And then also on top of that, he literally got confronted by Dave Free at the concert and stuff. and it didn't like turn violent but you know i think now he has like real animosity towards everybody associated with pg lang and td you know for sure because that just kind of puts out a narrative that he's touchable to a degree yo what's up man oh this is he wants to talk to you who's palmdale gary oh that fool's a j-cat don't even don't even call this fucking no fool i don't know everybody got your number yo what's up real quick what's up hey hey you are motherfucking Mark, shut your bitch ass up.

2:30:47Fuck him. That's fucking Raiders, homie. Why the fuck are you allowing some fucking guy rather than Jake Hatt? I don't even have the numbers saved. It just says, I got something to say to Lush. It's Palmdale Gary. You don't remember meeting him? He's a nobody. He's a nobody. Hey, he can run up right now and see what happened to him. He can see what happened to him. He can see what happened to him. That nigga in Palmdale, dog. Where you from, though? Remember that? Oh yeah Shut the fuck up Lush I want to talk to Lush Shut his bitch ass up Good phone snap to hang up What the fuck is he talking about Palmdale Gary Just think about that name I got no Palmdale connects Palmdale Gary is a non-affiliate Who actually has sucked Raiders dick More than Jerm has And if we're being fully honest If we're still talking about this bitch ass lame check it out you know why raider wanted to fuck germ because he wants to experience the same crevice that my dick was in he is obsessed with me he's jealous of me he wants to be me that's it bro he don't even like girls that's why his bitch looks trans hey when you hung him up that's his bitch look trans homie that's it it's over that's it some of us like trans women yeah oh yeah seen uh you getting pretty close with a trans.

2:32:09Adam Starr. Okay, was that a trans or not? Adam Starr. Oh, man. Leave my girl alone, bro. She going through it. Not my girl. Eva Angelina is a very, very legendary, famous ass porn star. She is potentially supplementing small amounts of testosterone. She's a fitness chick. She's buff. She's strong. Did a scene with her. A lot of the comments. Wait, it's a girl? Yeah You think I'm a fucking dude? She wanna be a bodybuilder? Why did they say trans? Because she's kinda muscular I heard she posted a video responding To the people that were dissing her Does she not have an Instagram anymore? Because it's not coming up They shouldn't be shaming her Because she's buff She's buff No just the pic that was posted Like China?

2:33:01Not that bad But the pic that was posted with Adam and Lena and her, she looked... She looked strong. Her jaw looked strong. Her jaw looked strong, though. It was a particularly unflattering... Wait, why did you say she's on testosterone? Because she is. She told me. Her shit probably tight, bro. You want to see her? This is a picture. She don't look... She looked in shape. She is very strong. Just look from the neck up, homie. Wait, but then... Okay, this is the video version. So you can see... She has pretty strong-ass arms and shit. Fuck all that. From the neck up, if that's all I saw, I'd be like, okay, she might be...

2:33:49So people are saying bad things about this? They're hating on her? Well, there was... I just saw it on the different forums or whatever. They were talking about, oh, Adam's making the transition to transmissions. But it's kind of funny seeing people hate on her when i'm like bro this girl is like a fucking icon in porn like she's like a big deal and people are like hating on her as if it's like so obvious that i'm fucking gay for banging her i'm like i'm like bro i'm gonna bang her for like 20 years yeah for sure i didn't realize that was her oh shit okay here we wait my headphones aren't working man why they gotta do this every day angelina check check check check i guess i've gooned to the trans too then apparently because She's for sure made the playlist before.

2:34:32I will furiously beat my mate to her any day. Check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check, check. I can't hear it. Can somebody help me? Check, check. Oh, there we go. Okay, I got it. Okay, this is her, I guess, responding. Oh, to the backlash. Rios, I know you guys are not even attempting to put on the headphones. I don't know if you guys are coming to fake this. Yes, I am so back. make sure you check my link wait this is old nevermind that's 2024 we're on the streets like really good friends maybe she posted a story or something my bad oh actually also maybe it's is it any chance that i am so ecstatic right now like i want to cry because since i posted my last workout video i have received so many messages from my fans okay people are tripping That's kind of a transient voice.

2:35:27A woman has to slow down, become smaller, take up less space, calm down. No, absolutely not. They say a woman has to slow down, become smaller, take up less space, calm down. No, absolutely not. See, you guys want women to be meek, weak, and not quite a freak. Me, the 22ster, I'll let my hoe be whatever she wants. You want to fuck a black dick? Do it. You want to be on test? Do it. You want to peg me? Do it. No. I think that was the implication. The line is drawn. Like, I don't see what people are tripping off of. She looks like a pretty young legend. You know the internet. Go do it. She's a legend.

2:36:12And half the motherfuckers that's complaining would spike. Fast. They all spike. Fast. But I'm not going to lie. I can see why people were thrown off by just specific images. you know like i can see why people might think oh okay if i maybe it was seeing that in a conjunction with the headline but she's clearly a chick to be fair the people are commenting on the fact that you appear to have a level of muscularity that they believe with their layman's knowledge but they may be correct that you are muscular enough that you would not be able to be that muscular unless you were supplementing male testosterone into your body which is in fact the case so you kind of got him give him some leeway you know like i like there was a personal trainer that was trying to put leno on test and i had to kind of tell her like i don't want you with a j leno chin so let's just chill with that but i've heard that these girls will take like one milligram Whereas a guy, I'll take like 100.

2:37:15So it's a tiny amount, but it has a huge impact on them. She never, like the old, like the classic arc of her career, she did not have that going on whatsoever, though. Nah, she became a firefighter for a while. As long as she's not competing with shit all over her, she's good. I bang some baddies who do scat content. She did gymnastics her whole life, and she kind of buffed up top, bro. You know, you kind of go gymnastics. like my relative she she kind of showed her i had a girlfriend when i was like 19 who was like thin but like normal and then she goes and joins the crew team at college for like rowing yes oh yeah she's wearing her back in her arms she's waking up every day at five in the morning to go do rowing for three hours she came and visited me i didn't see her for a month fucking so ripped i couldn't believe it what do you think about the high rocks girl the high rocks in australia what is high rocks for the record it's like the cross fitness training shit and the girl pooped all over herself and continued to compete i mean that's like what marathon runners do and shit right yeah but marathon runners are just running on the street she's like in the building and she ends up shitting all over herself and it's like a hot tall muscular chick and she's got poop pouring down her leg back and front dedication and they basically put out a statement that was kind of like hey we're so hardcore that that's just how we get down if somebody shits all over themselves they go keep going that's how hardcore we are and then they had to backpedal it and basically like we're introducing new protocols where if you poop all over yourself you're not allowed to keep going which you know even in a marathon if you shit all over yourself it's like well somebody could like bop into you or wipe up against you that's pretty nasty but at least it's kind of your own problem in a marathon whereas like you're in the small like if if let's shit his pants right now we are not going to be able to focus on anything besides let's shitting his pants We want to continue the podcast if you're still in here.

2:39:06Couldn't that be a strategic move for somebody in a competition? Like, oh, I'm finna shit and make everyone else grossed out so their performance is thrown off? No, they might run faster. She won. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But it's just disgusting being like you're touching shit, you're touching kettlebells, you're touching the balls. Very unsanitary. It's just too much shit. It's not that important, dog. I think that there might be a pending Depends sponsorship at a certain point, right? Fuck no. adult diapers you're not gonna be able to like rock a diaper while you're like working out right not very effectively well the baby didn't get that sponsorship he just rocked a diaper for the hell of it that was the first time we all heard about him that was a stylistic diaper choice that was a thirsty ass rapper who thought that he was never gonna make it unless he wore a diaper and did shit like that Tupac wore a diaper that wasn't really a diaper what was it Like covers.

2:40:03Yeah, it was like Speedos. It's the same difference. It's resembled a diaper, but it's meant to be a diaper, right? That was the whole costume. It was going to be a diaper. No. Oh, wait, that's something else. I don't know about that. No, Tupac did not wear a diaper as an adult, though. He certainly wore them as an infant, just like everyone else. Rumors or jokes about him wearing a diaper as an adult usually stem from internet memes, misidentified photos, such as his famous 1996 photo shoot with David Chappelle, who... Wait. David Chappelle? or David Chabelle, where he wore revealing outfits or underwear or people confusing him with other artists like DaBaby who famously wore a diaper for a marketing stunt.

2:40:40Hold on. So it wasn't nothing back when Humpty Humpty G-Shocking him, like a video for that shit. He didn't have no diaper? No. I guess not. But, like, I mean, they were also. Oh, come on, bro. I know I'm not tripping, bro. But here's the thing. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I think I know. It was something, bro. Because you know he used to be a dancer. He was dancing on stage. Right. They checked your T.O.I.P. on that one Diaper? Is this some shit I saw before I got shot? Well, I mean No, for real, like, this is like G-Shock days Yeah, yeah, no, he was a part of Digital Underground And he definitely wore some fruity looking fits As a dancer That's back in Baltimore No, no, not even just that, even with In Oakland, with Digital Underground And then he had that photo shoot in the bathtub With all the gold I'm sticking to the diaper, but I know for a fact that exists Yeah, same song was the record This is insane There is two other people The confusion likely comes from a mix-up of two things from that exact era.

2:41:33The mutant babies in a movie or something called Nothing But Trouble. Tupac made his official recording debut on the 1991 Digital Underground track, Same Song. The song and his music video were prominently featured in the Dan Aykroyd horror comedy film Nothing But Trouble. The movie infamously features two giant, grotesque, diaper-wearing mutant babies named Bobo and Lil' DeBull, played by Dan Aykroyd and John something. Because Digital Underground and Tupac appear right alongside these characters in the movie, the imagery is often lumped together. And then Shock G, who was the front man of Digital Underground, frequently performed as his alter ego, Humpty Hump, wearing a fake nose and ridiculous outfits.

2:42:16While the group wore plenty of strange costumes, Tupac generally dressed as normal as a backup dancer, roadie and hype man before launching a solo career. One thing I like about Munchie is that he's kind of like a dude from the 90s who's still kind of like hitting you with like a theory that he heard like a long time ago. Look, look, look, look. What I'm talking about, it was like some behind the scene footage and he was like talking and all that little shit. Like it was no AI back then. But diaper and wearing like Speedos or some fruity fits are not the same thing. Diaper means you can shit in it.

2:42:48Is it picking your memory a little bit? Yeah, for sure. Like he was doing a choreography behind him on the stage. What should we look up? Yeah see that's not a diaper We typing But that's not a diaper That's a G string Literally Oh no Let me undo that It's literally It's a cheetah print It's a speedo Yeah it's a speedo Okay My memory serves But that's a photo He talking about a video Were you talking about Like maybe it was like Like a sheet Or a towel Like a diaper Or a real diaper One of the three Definitely not a real diaper There might be something With a sheet Or something like that But Oh my god We're deep in the weeds With this Now I really want We're in a craze.

2:43:25We're in a craze. I want to know about this photo because I've seen this photo of him in the Speedo over the years. I'm going to ask Chad, what's up with this photo and isn't it gay or something?

2:43:38It's going to say many men wear Speedos who are not gay. Yeah, the photo is unusual if you encounter it without context. The Getty listing identifies it as a 1991 performance photo of Tupac Shakur with the Digital Underground in Los Angeles. photograph zebra print briefs shirtless outfit and the hat were part of the stage persona slash performance aesthetic rather than ordinary street clothes digital underground's performance had a deliberately playful eccentric funk oriented visual style uh so it's from 1991 and you can't determine someone's sexuality or orientation from a photograph or from wearing revealing and flamboyant clothing which i'm sure i'm sure most people at this table actually think that you can do that so well that i mean if that's gay then what's dr j with his world-class wrecking crew era when he was literally wearing dressing in drag yeah i mean okay let's state the obvious you cannot think of any heterosexual man involved in black slash hip-hop slash urban culture who has ever worn a speedo like that in modern times and if you did you would be labeled gay so fast that you would never be able to beat it however if we go back to 1991 yeah we're talking about modern times if you go back to 1991 you will find that we had very different cultural standards yeah mc hammer's another good example there was a lot of dudes like like the same thing when people want to have the conversation about like oh biggie had gay lyrics it's like okay by modern standards yeah he had some weird lyrics that to me were clearly jokes but they were basically gay but by that standard of that time they really weren't that notable or like worth talking about but by modern standards i i mean i saw a clip the other day of joe rogan doing a comedy bit where he was talking about tracy lords who i believe had uh she had porn uh that she did when she was 16 that came out and he was he's he's being funny but he's like making this joke about how amazing her underage porn was well they both were dope and they run the same age he's talking about her porn from when she was underage and at that time this joke i guess went over pretty well or like wasn't that notable but now when you see it you're like nobody would make that joke you man if i'm looking at some old porn from a girl that's my age and i'm like man she i would have wore your ass out i would have met you back then what's wrong i don't know she's 16 we're the same age i'm talking about somebody back then you're talking about a made up scenario i'm talking about what actually happens joe rogan in his 30s talking about how He enjoyed watching porn from a child.

2:46:14When he was 30. When he's in his 30s. So he's not talking about when he was 16. Let's deal with the actual thing and not some hypothetical. No, I think it's a miscommunication. He's not talking. He's thinking you're talking about when he was 16. He's talking about a joke when he was 16 and a 16-year-old. I know, but I feel like we're being pretty clear. It's the same thing as like, oh, okay. Back when I was a teenager, I thought Tatiana Ali and Fresh Prince of Bel-Air was fine as fuck. But if I'm like, oh, she's super bad now when I'm 44, I'm talking about a 15-year-old girl. that's fucking weird yeah it's weird when you like tell a story from high school and like you want to tell the story like describing how hot you thought the girl was when you were that age but you don't want to tell it from the perspective of yourself at that age because from the modern perspective it would be really creepy i don't even want that ambiguity like but the thing is this wait however fruity pock and them look and shit look at what happened with like young thug uzi all these guys with their dresses and makeup and they're not wearing thongs nails i mean shit Cardi had a thong on.

2:47:10Wait, wait, wait. So you can't talk about your getting up a thong? You can't talk about your experience in high school? I just gave that example, bro. It ain't nothing wrong with that. You can talk about your experience, but you're making up like a fake example in which the person, like everyone's out of age. Back to the example I gave. It said the same exact thing, but different. Okay, what is your example? No, no, no. What you just said, lastly, about the high school thing, it feels weird to talk about some shit from back in the days. I gave that example. I thought you were saying if me and this girl, Brittany, is the same age and she sent me some shit from back in the days, I'm like, damn, you was doing your shit.

2:47:41I don't want a girl to send me porn of her from when she was underage. That would be a strange choice. I don't think nobody would have it from back then. But when I get that example... Make some new shit. No, no, no. When I get that example, you just reverted right back to the same example I did and said the last thing you just said. I don't think you should not be able to talk about your experiences. You can, but it's just you don't want to describe it in extreme depth because it's, you know, like you can acknowledge that you like thought your girlfriend was hot while you were in high school.

2:48:11But if you're like, and I was fucking the shit out. I was fresh out of 10th grade and I'm beating it up. But even if you're talking about a teacher, when you were that age, you're still talking about a 16 year old, which is yourself. Okay. But that's different. But if you're looking, if you still have like the highlight reel, like let's say you have a, you'll save it back then, whatever. And you're like, yeah, don't have a highlight reel. that's fucking weird that's crazy you turn 18 and if you okay if you're a kid now and you just turned 18 you've got to go into your phone you've got to delete every nude you ever got before that correct because it's it is a crime you were in possession well no it's actually a crime as a kid yeah you cannot have uh anything like that sent to your phone as a kid yeah as a child if you if you send something from a girl you're uh in trouble i don't think anybody would ever prosecute it.

2:49:05How much is that going to give me? I looked it up. Remember when Flago was standing there, I looked it up. 90 days or something. That'd be fucked up if you had to register. You're on the registry then. Revenge porn? No. I think you would have a hard time finding anybody who had ever been prosecuted for having that stuff on their phone when they were underage as well. Revenge porn wouldn't put you on the registry, but revenge porn of an underage person very well might. Like if I'm 15 and I got some 50-year-old pussy in my phone, I ain't against the law. It can't be. I think it is. Technically. I just don't think that they would ever prosecute you for it.

2:49:41But honestly, we should ask that. Although I feel like Chet's going to tell me they don't want to have this conversation. Think about Drew Barrymore. How she was in the clubs doing coke and drinking and shit. And that's very frowned upon nowadays. Much harder to pull off in this day and age, I think. Studios, I forgot what the shit. 54. Yeah, she was a 13-year-old girl. Way more precocious than she ever should have been. and that's like clearly damaged her for years. That's why she had a serious drug addiction. She went to rehab when she was like 14. I knew it. Oh, wait. Yeah. Yeah. It put like a warning that said like, basically we're not going to have this conversation with you, but then the warning disappeared.

2:50:18Am I able to copy and paste this? I can't even copy and paste my prior query. Right there, square. Oh, okay. Do you think Grok would allow this conversation? I'm not really sure.

2:50:32you might have to go beyond the ai might have to actually like look something up for the first time in years yeah look they're only going to give you links they're not going to actually tell you and for lawyers that are defending that disgusting ass shit well none of us are 15 so we don't actually have to deal with it that's just crazy speak it like well i have a son bro a son yeah yeah so you can tell him delete his nudes no no no you can kind of like like like like when you got a son you kind of like uh root that behavior on like yeah you got you got girls versus you got a daughter you like you know you know you ain't inviting that energy okay with your daughter you got to tell them how you want the world to be and with your son i think you got to tell your son how it actually is and you might not necessarily really be doing your daughter that much of a favor by trying her over by by not being real with her you have like that's what happens and what is wrong with a lot of women is that they dad don't be giving them that real deal like nah dog this shit is fucked up and this is what men want and this and that like you gotta be real here's the ultimate example is that when you at some point in your life in the distant future when you have to talk to your daughter about sex do you tell her how it is or do you tell her how you want it to be because i think in the perfect world there would be significantly less stigma towards women who wanted to experiment sexually right but we do not live in that world in reality your value as a woman is largely aligned with how sparing you are with your sexuality but don't you think we're living in the most sexually liberated times in like the modern era like and it still doesn't matter the 70s well i mean like way more liberated now what about the amber rose slut walk and all that like and women got canceled yeah but that that was a whole thing and women are way more encouraged to be in sex work and there's way less of a stigma work is massively more normalized i talk to girls who go to college and they fuck 100 guys in the first semester it's like sex is so much more de-stigmatized the 70s was the beginning of that happening correct hey bro the sled walk was was the i could just like i won't don't have to be touched that was that was the message it wasn't And now Amber Rose is MAGA.

2:52:49And it was pre-AIDS. Well, the 70s. Yes. It was called free love. Right. The hippie shit and all that shit. Right, but it wasn't as broad. But it was still like traditional patriarchal relationships for the most part. It wasn't like, oh, the women can do whatever they want and they have control to the same degree they do now. It's almost like they're steering the ship more than men are almost when it comes to that, or at least the most they ever have. I would agree. Can we cap this off with a little conversation about our boy 4Xtra? It's been a pretty wild week. He went down for a body and then got out.

2:53:27What the fuck is that? That was pretty shocking. Well, you were... I was having a little too much fun with that. I made a couple of videos. You made a couple of videos. The headlines is what was crazy. Well, the headlines were accurate, right? No. Why? Because you said that he... what? Unalived a girl. Well, that's what he was accused of. No, not an unalived attempt. Yeah, it was an attempt. Okay, so the first one about Forextra was called Forextra shot a girl in the role. Wait, no, there's one more before that. One more before that. That is pretty... Huge update on... Oh, wait, no, no, no, no.

2:54:03The first one was Forextra arrested for allegedly catching a body in 2015. You can't argue with that. Next one. Huge update on Forextra's murder case. This changes everything, okay? He didn't catch a body in 2015. Well, that's the... Everyone thought it was an actual body and not an attempt at first. Forester shot a girl in the rolling 40s versus 60s war, allegedly. Allegedly. Well, that's what he was alleged to have done. So that also is pretty hard to argue with that, right? And then I think there's one more to wrap it up. Yeah. It's right there. Forester is free. How he beat a body and got away with shooting a girl, allegedly.

2:54:37Like, you think that disclaimer just saves everything, huh? That one is the mixiest, but also that's towards the end of the video cycle, so I kind of had to keep heating it up in order to make it. I don't like the word allegedly don't work. It doesn't even matter. You know what I mean? It matters a lot in court. I think it does. It matters. What do you get in court? But you too, allegedly. That one is mislead. It's like, well, our ditty. You know what I mean? Well, allegedly implies that this is the accusation. This is the conversation. It's not stating it as a definitive fact. Allegedly don't hold no merit out here in the free world.

2:55:11Only in the courtroom. I think it matters everywhere. Everybody says it. Even fucking total normals. If somebody says you're allegedly gay, nigga, are you still offended by it? It's there. But let's say there was a guy making videos calling you gay. And I said, well, he's allegedly gay. I mean, he is allegedly gay. Someone alleged he was gay. So, yeah, that right there is. No, but by people thinking you just say allegedly, it's a disclaimer. I mean, that kind of is what it is. To a degree. It is a bit of a disclaimer. Y 'all take the value out of it. That's why. Okay. That's I pointed to this guy as an example several times.

2:55:45Our good friend Ant. Anytime he would make a video, he would always say supposedly or allegedly he'd throw that in there. And he's talking about salacious rumors about what's going on in the streets. But he didn't necessarily catch the same level of critique and backlash. He got a lot of critique. Yeah, he did. He did. Backpillating and taking videos down, bro. What are we talking about? Not to the same degree as others, though. I've seen people who try to make definitive statements What I really want to know though Adam Did you see the news yesterday And it seemed like our good friends Votie Pace wasn't too psyched about the way you were covering it He didn't say him He did actually say him I care 0 % But that being said This is what I'm against We've got people Killing people We've got people dying Motherfuckers only want to talk about the media talk about the fucking culture in which this shit is normalized and don't talk about the people who make youtube videos reporting on it's not like i heard about it listen i understand when people get mad about flocco saying oh this guy's gonna get picked up for the for the draco murder it's it's fine to get mad at him for that because that he's really pushing the envelope there but we're talking about me making a video based on an actual arrest where i have the actual information on the court website about why he was arrested and then like people are doing actual investigative journalism to find out exactly what happened granted i wasn't the one who did it i just reported on it but they're finding out the exact details about who who got shot who's snitching right now who fucking you know was with him when this all went down etc it's like to be angry at the media is such a waste of fucking time and spody face like there is such an interesting conversation to be had about the normalization of shooting people in the hood because of petty grievances why are you talking about the white boy who's talking about the shit that has already been reported in the fucking media and is already being reported by the cops talk about some important shit don't just talk about the media all the time that's why motherfuckers are never going to grow because they never want to have a conversation about the actual thing they want to talk about the media talking about the thing the people the rewards go to the people who talk about the thing, not the people who talk about the media reaction to the thing.

2:58:03Motherfuckers don't get that. I'm glad you made the distinction between... I feel that. But what about the fact that it turned out to be inaccurate and the charges were dropped? I don't think that means it's inaccurate. That means the DA rejected it. That means the feds might pick it up. It's been 10 years. It's probably pretty tough to get the evidence together. I don't really see why they would have arrested him if they didn't plan on doing something with him. The DA reject don't mean you're not... They could refile. I was guilty of charge last year, and I got a dismiss. My question, why would they put the, like, if the DA didn't pick it up, the million-dollar bail?

2:58:35You know what I mean? That's pretty standard for any attempted murder. Like, but from 10 years ago, like, you just randomly pick somebody up? Well, they have a jailhouse snitch who is putting it on them. Hey, bro, they got something called a bail schedule. So, like, to your crime, like, boom, they set a bail for that. You know what I'm saying? And that is. It's just for the DA to drop. Drop it for this. If you have previous incarcerations For other violent crimes and things of that nature It is That's one million dollars is not an Absurd bail amount Well I would say I agree okay but with Spody And you I would say the difference I don't know who he was talking About or whatever but if you're saying that he Was a task for I thought you were talking about Rav No Street Politics Yes The reporting that he did that Rav No Street Politics Did on that case is to be envied.

2:59:24That is unbelievably well done, sophisticated reporting. And that's a guy with no journalistic training. He's just doing it for the love of the game. And all of that... He didn't misreport, bro. But all of it is allegedly, right? Correct. Because it hasn't been proven. Correct. And he was speaking a bit definitively. Definitively. And I think maybe the difference is if Spody had heat for you, it's like, damn, don't you have a relationship? Yeah, he's your homie. And I'm also really opposed to this mentality that because you're cool with somebody that you should not report on them when they're in the news i report on the news i talk about the news on the podcast nobody's ever going to gaslight me into thinking that i'm doing something wrong by making a video about one of my friends who's in the news and munchie the direct the direct quote was adam is on some bullshit he said that multiple times yesterday everybody knows the spody face has a difficult time with logic 15 minute rant i wouldn't have caught that so i didn't kill you i'm just saying like he did mention it it's a Poorly kept secret that Spody Face kind of has a hard time thinking through things sometimes, you know?

3:00:25Well, yeah. I think also this one's close to home. It's his cousin. You know what I mean? Like, they've had their own relationship that's been hot and cold as of recent. I mean, Spody Face, you— He loves him, obviously. Well, I guess Spody Face was the victim in those situations. But, I mean, there's real shit going on in your community that needs to be worried about. I'm worried about the media. Because, like, it's an emotional attachment there. Like, to that one, there's an emotional attachment. I get being emotionally attached to your cousin and their well-being and people putting out information about him allegedly doing some heinous shit.

3:00:59And it's like, I'm not, it's not like you're reporting on the motherfucker going and buying candy. You're reporting on him doing something that is considerably despicable. You know what I mean? That could not be true. Well, I'm not necessarily reporting on whether it's true or not. I'm reporting on the fact that he was arrested and is being accused of it. So if people are like Yes they can do it to me too Talking about like Lena Exactly does anyone wait To find out confirmed 100 % If things are really A certain way with Lena I don't rush to do content Because I don't want to jump the gun You know what I'm saying You are in the 1 % of content creators Because nobody else does that Everybody makes videos on the information that is available at that time If it's someone I'm close with I did text you right away I said, hey, is this real or a play?

3:01:50Right, and I tried to hit up people associated with 4Xtra to get insider information, and Rosenberg had been told not to talk. Lupe didn't have anything to say, so. Hey, well, nothing about the 4Xtra is alleged or nothing, but you used the word despicable. And my knowledge, I don't like it. He's a gangbanger, so it was despicable. But let's look at Mr. PC over here. Let's show the screen. Hmm? Spudyface's YouTube channel. Q50 Bloodhound which he didn't even get the guy's name right Q50 Bloodhound unalive today in Chicago wow looks like Spodyface sure does love profiting off of murder That's all I'm seeing.

3:02:34Black versus brown. Is it a race war on the way in LA? Well, it sure looks like Spodyface likes drumming up conflict. Yeah, yeah. Hey, Spodyface, maybe think about this before you start throwing rocks. Nortenio Moose speaks for Southern United Raza and literally photoshops a gang that bandana that he's not in onto his head. Oh, this is definitely the first person who should be politicking on what's allowed on YouTube. CritMac versus the Hoover criminals. Ooh, so you're even involving yourself in making content about your own hood. Huh, Spodyface? Jay Hood goes to jail. ATM Richie puts money on his head.

3:03:17Spodyface, you have no moral high ground to speak on any of this. You are worse than me, and you are worse than Flacco. you are worse than the worst. Worse than Flacco is. I'm just saying. Where did this asshole get the nerve to say that we're in the wrong when he's doing worse? I don't have a title about ATM Richie putting money on J-Hood's head. Brian Steele. Come on now. I rest my case. And using our photos. And he got all this black power shit in the background. Like what the fuck? This is not the civil rights movement. He's got black panthers on his fucking thumbnail. Every single thumbnail has that to be fair.

3:03:53I got to take my hoodie off because I'm sweating, yelling out. could he be any more wrong ever like this is so this is so unbelievable i mean munchie wait are you being serious yes this is so blatantly hypocritical that is like beyond words like i i don't feel like i've ever been more right on anything ever in the history of this podcast but this is hypocrisy munchie do you think it's hypocritical based on the how harshly he was speaking up about uh he really is hot because we were on the pod with him yesterday and he was popping it about people that were making a lot of these similar type headlines that are salacious because he don't get any views so he thinks that nobody notices so do you think it's a difference between open like is he trying to make a differentiate differentiate between open cases well like that like like i think and like implicating people in cases well i agree like that there is a difference and i agree with him on that however when you have headlines like because i'm pretty sure atm richie is not being um indicted as of yet for putting money on jay hood's head but it's made up it's just a jailhouse rumor it's not like there's any real charge i guess that's the difference okay so i wouldn't took that series so it's wrong for me to make a video about four extra actually being arrested for allegedly shooting someone however it's totally fine for spody face to fate to promote fake jailhouse rumors about atm richie doing a murder for hire so you make up a murder for hire that you want to report on and that's okay but then me speaking about an actual arrest is not okay spody face i'm sorry you are so wrong you should never speak again like you should never you you should take six months of not having an opinion to make up for how hypocritical you look here i'm sorry that this this is it's nobody can defend this yeah if i go to the i'm gonna go to the neighborhood fodies right now and ask everybody what they think you know what they're gonna say yeah adam you're right sporty face is wrong and also you dp'd your own cousin no you got dp'd by your own cousin so what are we really talking about well that's not on the thumbnail i know no that is not make a thumbnail about that give us the real story about the dp man that's not on a thumbnail.

3:06:10I don't know nothing about that. I still, even after that ether, even after that heat, I still think that allegedly shooting a girl is more. It's bad. You shouldn't do it. As far as, what do you mean is more? Like the allegedly, I feel like there's more to that. Like you're speaking on something that because even in the following one is like, did not shoot her allegedly. You know what I mean? Like it's playing both sides of the fence. The DA rejected it. That doesn't mean that it didn't happen. No, I'm not commenting on it. But also, him shooting a girl is real news enough that we talked about it on the podcast, or we talked about it, I made a video about it, after it was alleged by a snitch, which we know, he was arrested for it.

3:07:02And then they put out all the information about it. ATM Ritchie putting money on J-Hood's head only exists within Spodyface's head. It's not a real thing. And somehow he thinks that that's okay. So like fake news is okay, but really, really real, real, real news is not okay. That's the world we live in. That's Spodyface's America. Do you think that Faux Extra being a public figure, he was targeted to a degree. Do you think this would have happened to just another member of that same section if he wasn't famous? If I'm a snitch and I'm looking for somebody to tell on, for sure I'm telling on the famous guy before the guy who's not famous, sure.

3:07:39Do you think... A little bit better clip. The cops would rather get information about somebody who's famous than somebody who's not famous. That's what I would think. Because the famous guy is influential. Yeah. Right, but no, that's what I'm saying, is I feel like he was... I think that it wouldn't have been as aggressively targeted and have that go through to the same degree if it wasn't somebody that they wanted to make an example of. also but it is fair for the cops to want to prosecute people who are influential and famous but that goes up to the higher up not not like podcast no no no it's got nothing to do with podcast i'm saying the da join out your section they want you off the streets like you know what what level of grace would you um extend somebody that you have a personal relationship with like foe extra who's you know that you're very cool with made a lot of content with as opposed to just a regular person that you're covering that you don't know so if you actually watch those videos like people can take issues with the titles but everything about how i reported on it was totally responsible and fair so it's like yeah maybe the title is a little hyperbolic which it really isn't but like i mean it's not really like like if you actually watch it it's extremely thoughtful and i'm saying that everything's a legend i'm shooting his bail and bail as much as possible however my standard when it comes to like putting anything out into the world content wise any kind of statement is is it causing harm in my reporting about Forextra being arrested for a murder charge did I do anything that could negatively impact him and his case the answer is no maybe not him but somebody else that you devote did you talk to J Hood before you implemented what he told you on that?

3:09:22I never asked him if I could say that, no. So, like, that's not that, but... Okay, but no, no, no, you're changing the subject. Did I do anything that could negatively impact 4X or who was the person that that video was about? I didn't listen. The answer is no. If you watch all those videos, there's absolutely no insider information that I'm providing in any way. So, as a result, it is impossible that any of those videos could have a negative impact on his case or his life. So, therefore, No harm, no foul. I think you more so saying, will people care if it wasn't a faux exorcist? Well, somebody close my previous.

3:09:56No, so it's newsworthy because he's a public figure and been on all these podcasts. But he's not being targeted because of that as far as, you know what I'm saying? Accusations. No, hell no. They don't give a fuck about no podcaster, man. Well, yeah, they do. He's more than a podcaster. They do. They went to. He's a crip. Nigga, that's what I mean. Okay, but they went to a prison. They went to a prison that's not in LA. It's upstate somewhere. and they asked this one specific snitch if he had information about 4Xtra. No. Would they have - The snitch reached out to talk to them. The original version of the story that I heard was not that.

3:10:31But that being said, don't you think that the person being famous as fuck, being one of the most well-known crips in LA, made the cops a little bit more interested in finding out information about him? No. To me, that is obvious. Everybody knows that's how it works. The boy was disgruntled with the 40s upset and requested to speak to them people that came and hollered at him. I believe that that's probably more likely, but all I'm saying is... Forex is a polarizing figure. Very much so. He's famous. If they take down Forex, that is more relevant towards them taking down Gangbanging as a whole, which they probably would like to do in the long run, even though they know it's not possible.

3:11:07So, Munchy, what's the difference between that? Wait, but no, Forex is more influential than a thousand other Crips. Love it. You know how you be saying the feds going after the rap stars. You know what I mean? Yes. They're going after them for credibility or playing a game of it. What do you see the difference is in that and for extra? Because our local gang cops want the joints. They want the ones. When I say joints, I don't mean people are like celebrities. The police, these are gang cops. They know who's doing what. They know all that little shit. That's what they want. They don't give a fuck about your studies.

3:11:43they don't give a fuck about a frosty but I do think that Adam's right in the regard that if the eventual goal is to make gangbanging not as glamorized and not as cool let's take the people that are making it look cool supposedly to the masses and getting them out the paint or making them see consequences for what their alleged actions are that's a dumb how how is that dumb Because taking him off the streets and there's a thousand other members and somebody will come up right behind him and shine, that is not going to do good. And they're going to be platformed. Okay. That is fair. If we're talking about there's a park and there's a gang there and the gang sells drugs and we arrested the head of the gang and somebody else is going to take over.

3:12:31Sure. When you arrest Lil Durk, there's not just another Lil Durk ready to go. Lil Durk is a superstar rapper. And when he's taken out, it's like, will there ever be another big drill rubber? Yeah, sure. But it's not like it's easy to just slip another one in. He's famous for being individually talented, uniquely talented. Excuse me. So that's what I'm saying. We move in a needle when we talk about Dirk, somebody that could fund shit and move, make. It's just on a larger scale. Yes, because we talk about thugs and Dirk's. And then we talk about four extras. Well, obviously, four extras, not as influential, but he's been on.

3:13:05Or he don't have the ability to have somebody fly to Miami. He's not going to order any out-of-state murders, for sure. But also, this murder took place like 10 years before he was even famous. And 10 minutes away from where he from. So it's not the same. But there was a good seven, eight-month period. We're talking about the feds and we're talking about local agencies. But there is a good seven, eight-month period where Faux Extra was not prominently making content after his accident that he had. And it's not like immediately there was another famous Crip that stepped into the mix and wound up being...

3:13:42What made him famous? Before that incident. Well, yeah. He was known just for being a bombastic personality that was super engaging and entertaining. A lot of people outside... Yeah. But a lot of people outside... So there's going to be an endless supply of personalities. No. Is there to his degree, though? So first it was... Where were they at? Yeah, where were they at? Where were they at? Find me them. Now, so you went from Crip Mac to him, right? Correct. You've gone from phase to phase. I'm just using no difference. It's a mistake to think that there's just like a million more ready to come.

3:14:11No. Who filled that void? A star is a star and look at all the SoundCloud rappers who died. There was not another X after X. There was not another Jusra. There was not another Lil Peep after Lil Peep. It's like these artists come, they create a genre or a style that the fans fall in love with and then they die and there's a million copycats and the fans don't give a fuck. Wait, we started talking about Rattles? But it's the same concept essentially. No, what I'm telling you is there's an endless supply of knuckleheads out here popping motherfuckers. But there's not an endless supply of stars that the people actually want to watch.

3:14:46That have the same charisma and are just as energy. It's not in front of the camera. Because if you got them, then you should sign them or make content with them because they are valuable. But I'm not into gimmicks though. Yeah. Like, and if you think that that's the exception. No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. Those are the exceptions? I could bring one to you though. I'm telling you. Like Crip Max and 4X is every hood. Like everywhere. No, that is not true. That is. No. Bro, bro. They anywhere. Find me one. Find me one. I can find you 50. Do it. Find me one first. You want Crip or Bled or Hoover?

3:15:13I don't care. I can bring you one. I don't care. They're going to have me. Okay, okay. Here's your standard though. Crip Max first interview got a million views. The second interview got two million views. So you find me someone from any hood in LA that their first interview is going to get a million views and their second interview is going to get two million views. And then they're going to go on channel five and get 10 million views. So I will be waiting for you guys. I'm not bringing you shit. See, thank you for admitting that you don't actually believe what you just said. I do believe it, but I don't.

3:15:37Okay, wait, wait, wait. Go ahead. You're seriously telling me you think that there is some undiscovered game member who's going to get a million views his first interview. Yes. Find them. I will give you$10 ,000. No, fuck no. Well, you don't believe what you're saying. $10 ,000. I just want to make it perfectly clear. You don't believe what you're saying. I do. You don't. If you did it, you would do it. I'm trying to tell you, I know more active. I know more idiotic. I know more clownish. I know more cracking than all of that shit. It's just what you've had access to. Do they exist? Yes. Yes, they exist.

3:16:09A million views. They exist. Even 4Xtra couldn't get that. I got stories for you that you would think is fucking made up and you think it's fantasy. It doesn't matter that you are wrong about this. I'm trying to incentivize you to prove that you believe what you're saying. because there's no possible way that what you're saying is true. There's no way that there's that much value being left on the table that nobody in all of L.A. has not seized upon. And trust me, I've been trying to find these people for my whole life. That's the problem. That's why that verse went crazy. That shit went haywire.

3:16:44What? Trying to find the same type of little shit. What are you talking about? That first verse. That's why I went to shit. Because you're trying to find the trooping. Yeah. Okay. The dual pack. What? The troop and Krip Mac. The 20 view. What about that? What about that? However, Krip Mac. What point are you trying to make about that? Look, Krip Mac had a rollout because he went viral on Instagram first. Right. Wrong. Wrong. He went viral on No Jumper first. No, he didn't. Yes, he did. Bro, he. I did it. I did it. Bro, he was on Instagram. We're on viral tomorrow. No. He's never taken a test. Why does everybody try to rewrite the Krip Mac story and tell me that it went differently than what I lived?

3:17:25You were right with Wack 100. Wack 100 said he took him to some nigga in Compton. You was right with that. Yeah, that was like six months after that. He was viral on Instagram first, and everybody was like, he was talking about how I told me somebody you ain't gonna never have a regular life, never get a bitch. He said, I don't give a fucking name. He went viral off that. Where did you find him at? I found an Instagram account that had like 1 ,000 followers. It wasn't viral. It was like totally tiny. I couldn't believe it, so I interviewed him. Everyone always tries to tell me that Krip Mac was viral for something before No Jumper.

3:17:52It is a lie. Come in, you make the same bet that you and WEC made? Yes. That he was viral on Instagram before No Jeopardy? Yes, find me evidence. What's the bet? What constitutes viral? I'll bet any dollar amount. What do we want to bet? Whatever you want, 10 grand. I'll bet 10 grand to your 1 ,000. And what's considered viral, first off? Find me something that had 10 ,000 likes before I interviewed him. Hold on, how could we do that right now when the likes kept going up since then? I mean, it would be difficult. But if you find me anything even remotely viral before I interviewed him, I will acknowledge that I'm wrong.

3:18:25The thing about it is that you absolutely can't. Hold on, hold on, hold on. A thousand to your 10 bands? Yeah. All right, man. Go ahead. He was viral before. And I know you're not going to give me the money, and I don't even care because I'm so right. I got the thousand. I'll pay up every bet I lose around this motherfucker. I knew who Crit Mack was before No Jumper. Bro, because he was viral. With Shante the cat. Yeah, Mackie Shante. His first thing was, you have to burn it off. Hummie said, I ain't get a six. That was all after his first interview. Why does everybody try to tell me about my life?

3:18:56No, no, no. Like anybody was paying how much money to do this as me. Don't put me in the same boat as Wack. Wack was wrong. No, but you are also wrong. Okay, just pay my money. Bro, I got the bread. But 10 to the 1. All those videos where he's like, Fight, fight, cream. Hey, chat. That was like. Hey, chat, help me out. And then just. Munchie, can I just tell you something? No, fuck that. You're shit out of luck. You're already lost. You're very confident Yeah you're very confident I lived it everybody's trying to tell me about my life You lived your truth No I lived it I saw it 100 % From the beginning Hey look look look listen Even the chat knows I'm right Adam is 100 % right CritMac wasn't nobody Thank you everybody knows that They hate CritMac It doesn't matter that I'm right You can't prove to me that CritMac Was viral before November You can't find me another thing that.

3:19:51No, no, no. You're both full of shit. This is what cap said. Cap in your raps. I will find you another gimme. I was explaining to my kid what just cap in your raps mean earlier this morning. I had to give her like 10 examples of how to use cap in a sentence. Bro, they're waiting to use that shit. Cap in your raps. Hey, so I'm going to send a receipt through and then, man, we're going to do it up. I would love for you to. All right, we can move on. We got to stay stagnant. Yeah, let's get to these donations. Let's talk about Swift again now. No, no, let's get to these donations. Because we almost done.

3:20:22We're three hours, 40 minutes in, and I got to go prepare for my Drake content. Which, by the way, you guys are all going to finally understand why Adam was so excited about the Drake football project. He name dropped him. Yeah. What? I said his name 10 times already on this episode before we even talked about this. See, you're not listening. I said he's going to name drop you. The boy. The boy. I'm going to call him my boy. That's good. He's going to name drop you. I didn't say you name drop me. He's not going to name drop me. Yeah, he's going to throw you in there. I mean in a very abstract way I guess yeah You kind of Name drops me That's fucking dope I'm excited I'm excited to see What the fuck it is You might not know You haven't been around I wonder how many songs I think I'd be on there bro That's all Huh I wonder how many songs It's not an album For the record Everybody think it's an album But to close it out I don't think anybody Should waste any energy Being mad at you About what you do Because I feel like You've made it blatantly clear What you're willing to do And uh Yeah like fuck Like you gotta know The person that you're dealing with know the person that is getting active.

3:21:17You know what I mean? I just want to respond to this person, Juju Rose. Adam, you were wrong. He definitely had content that went viral before, but a lot of his old pages and content have been deleted, so you know it can't be verified. That is true. Any example. Actually, honestly, go back to Nojumper. Go look for videos with Crip Mac in the title before his interview. Hey, listen. Spoiler. Listen. Nothing. I'm going to find it. I'm going to show it to you. You know what I'm saying? I respect bets. Why don't you stop talking about what you're going to do and just do it. Why you still talking to somebody?

3:21:45That's the IFG fucking private event. IFG PIs. We need you. Don't know. Don't know. Don't know. Hey, this motherfucker is hilarious. Yeah, you're cooking. How much time are we going to waste with you just telling me how you're going to do the sandwich? You're wrong. You skipped all them don't know to go to that one. Yeah. Come on, bro. You the one who went back to it. You can see. You saw it. You can see. I know you can see. Start from the top. Nigga, use your mouse. Goddamn. Okay. Cashin Sumo said, Adam, you're lame for putting it out there. that Doughboy crocked old girl wall with his new girl.

3:22:16Can't wait for Doughboy to start firing your shit up. Hey, man, if you got secrets, this ain't the podcast for you. No. Because if you cheat, you're going to get exposed. I'm sorry. Doughboy is Kaiser Soce. I don't know who that is, but thank you to Tay for the don't know. Does anyone know who that is? No. From Usual Suspects. Oh, Unusual Suspects. Yeah, Kaiser Soce. Yeah, yeah. On the guy that didn't exist. Yeah, he created a... Kevin Spacey's character created a guy that didn't exist, basically, and blamed the whole what? Yeah. He created a guy that didn't exist? While talking to investigators.

3:22:49And he used all the shit on the wall as his story behind the detective and he used all the shit in his story. It's fucking fire, actually. Yeah, great movie. He's saying Doughboy is pretending to be nice. Correct. I definitely think that. I think we gotta check his computer. Okay. Papa Droppa said Doughboy got more scooms than Lush. It has to mean something seeing that Lush tried to make Dough the bullied. Take off those Amiri's my boy to be fair it's scooms not scooms yeah and on top of that um every bitch that doughboys brought around has chose up on me just to be fair they chose up for you correct that's tight correct a lot of doughboy like the girls he hangs out with are girls that like he's friends with you would just see them like at the drive-thru and you just like wouldn't even think twice about them and then it turns out that they're fucking doughboy which is sick no honestly his girlfriend she look alright.

3:23:41She cool. She's cool. Shout out to Doughboy. Shout out to Doughboy. My grandma. What the fuck? This guy's name is my grandma is from IFG. Shout out to the Tuesday show. Munchie is a bad matchup for Spody Face. Trooper would be a better pod off for Spody Face on IFG. Imagine Trooper being a good podcast guest for anybody. He'd just be talking the whole time. During the 20 versus 1 he had me literally pulling my hair out. Oh yeah you were pissed. I was so mad. You yelled more then than you did just now. He wouldn't shut the fuck up the whole time. He just would never stop talking. As far as the structure of making content, Trooper is the worst person I've ever had to deal with because everybody else gets that there should kind of be one person talking at the time.

3:24:30Most people fuck up a lot. There's a lot of over-talking. Trooper is the worst. No matter what you say, you will hear him talking in the background. The whole time. He never stopped speaking. It's almost like he's special needs. No, he is. He's super marginal. Duh. He's super marginal. Original center is special. But he seemed like he got like, when he was interviewing him, he was telling his little buddy, nah, I'm already off the drink. He was like, you know what I'm saying? They were handing him liquor. He was slow, but sped up. Him being faded definitely was a factor. Okay. Sandwich Chef said, young thug, pee blunt or nothing.

3:25:09I don't know what that means. Uh, Freetown MK tier said using any connection to Africa as a slur is based in anti-black racism. It has nothing to do with how African any black American is. That's true. Slick the cool said fact check lush because crime and violent crime is down in Chicago. Just like everywhere else. He's talking out of his ass and spreading propaganda. And it's still extremely higher than it is in Los Angeles. You're fucking drinking out of your ass. Retard. Yeah. I don't even think people, even the biggest LA boosters don't think that the murder rate in LA is anywhere near as crazy as Chicago.

3:25:44It's almost like they don't listen and they try to take things out of context. No, but you wasn't comparing it. You were just saying that it was down out here, though. No, it's down countrywide. It's definitely down in LA. And I literally said this is the safest time in world history by a significant margin. And if you look at the murder rate in America, it's like shockingly low right now. Yeah. compared to there was a spike during 2020 but it's just we can going down consistently of all the major metropolitan areas that are big cities in america chicago has the highest murder rate when it comes like all the other cities that are in that on that list are small towns in mississippi and louisiana and things like that those are the other but you but it don't matter you didn't say it was at an all-time high no no i definitely said so that yeah again everything he said is invalid uh swifty t2 has been a member for five months he said wasn't q50 250 out on bail or on probation i think that's why he couldn't leave the state much love to y 'all though and ricky sucks no joke free the guys um yeah he might have been on uh he might have been on probation i didn't actually think about that so that's that might be one reason but he was moving a lot around a lot he was in la a lot a lot of different places um defiant brandon said rio sounds dumb q50 was profiting off of other ninjas deaths that he was directly causing but if adam profits off of covering the story he's the problem brandon i'm not gonna lie you're making sense it's a pretty good argument brandon had a pretty solid appearance last night huh people like is that actually brandon yeah yeah but he didn't know who you were i was really surprised what does it mean that i said q50 was profiting off other ninjas what is he talking about i didn't say that shit no no that's what he's saying he was profiting off of other people's deaths i don't know who the fuck q50 is i know But you were saying like, oh, Adam made videos to make money off of him.

3:27:29But Q50's entire career was basically based on him talking about all these murders. No, but he was saying he didn't set himself up. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he was saying that media platforms were able to make more money off of these artists. They himself. Correct. You know what I'm saying? But I disagree with that. Tell him to stop sucking your dick. Woo! You want to debate him? Don't fucking debate him. No, no, no. I got money on Reels. debate him what on Q50 I'll put together a bunch of topics I feel like Brandon might got you I bet you do honestly someone that is that has like black power ideology such as Rios might be a good opponent for Brandon so black power ideology versus Oreo Oreo not for real well the thing is Brandon in his eyes considers himself to be pro-black as well.

3:28:26But you guys would be surprised that I agree with more shit than he disagrees with. I agree more with him than I disagree with him. It might be kind of tricky to find the stuff that they disagree on although I'm sure we could get there. Do you think the civil rights movement set black people back? No, no, no. Okay, we're not doing this right now. Come on. Segregation? No, no, no. Come on. He was ready. I'm trying to read the donations. That is not a 30-second conversation. Donations, not segregation. We can get to that. we can get to that well i i can't be here uh for next week's monday show so maybe the brandon and rios that would be late monday show could be i kind of like that i'm down uh okay mix marshall mike thank you for becoming a member threed swayze thread sweezy said rock is making a comeback especially since the jits want to be all an emo especially since people are branching out of rap with bands like riley origami angle and more so i don't know who those brands are i do agree that like I feel like rock is kind of poised to make a bit of a comeback but what we're currently seeing is more like rappers dressing in ways that are influenced by rock I haven't really seen like the rock bands that really feel like they're like coming to the forefront something like Geese big viral thing last year but that was this year I wish our rappers would stop paying their nails there's been like a whole thing kind of like along the lines of four bats where there's a visual discrepancy with the way things traditionally sound has been happening there's a lot of like i've seen black kids that look like they're from the hood or dress like rappers making straight uh pop punk and emo music however there hasn't been any that really have broken through beyond that you know what i will say is i remember when i moved out of brooklyn i didn't go back for a couple years and i went back and as the uber's driving through these neighborhoods i'm just like so shocked at how so many of these hood dudes were wearing really tight like shiny latex type jeans that's been a But I'm just saying, I'm thankful that that's not latex, but just shiny, super tight, weird jeans.

3:30:26I'm really thankful that I don't see that anymore. Jim Jones type shit, right? Well, that was the Balmain era, too. Like post-Jim Jones, like young thug adjacent. I would say that's really what it is. And I don't see that anymore, and I'm so thankful because that really disgusted me. And remember, they were wearing, it looked like hockey shorts, but then with the leggings underneath them. There was a gang. So much bad style in that era. That's from New York City. There's a band, there's a group that's out of Compton that is like a rock, a black band out of Compton. Right, what I just, basically what I was just describing.

3:30:56What are they called? I can't, I got to look them up. Their brother's name is Walter. He's a R &B rapper, singer out of Compton. I like how you brought it up and then Lush acted like he already knew what you're talking about, but then he didn't. He just like. No, I literally said that there's a gang of bands that are doing that in, across America right now that are going viral. I can't though. That's the point. and it's not just black there's hispanic bands doing it too there's a band called the mainliners there's a gang of them there's a band out of atlanta that is all these black kids and they're doing like pop punk right you know i'm talking about i forget what they're called fox that's all arrows i forget but they're like it's it's my problem when i heard it because i was kind of excited about when i saw it they have like a travis barker collab but then i was like when i listened to it it was just really generic pop punk and i was like i feel like you gotta you're gonna have to like innovate stylistically as well.

3:31:47Anyway, okay. The paradox. Philip said, rock shows will always be more fun to attend than hip-hop shows because a band showcases talent as opposed to someone rapping to their track with a DJ. I will say that rock shows generally are a lot more. But if it's an actual good DJ and good MC, that's not true. And also, if a rapper is really trying, they're capable of putting on amazing shows. It's just that the norm is for rappers to do like a really really really boring set would you say that the talent and the standard for rappers have dropped yes yeah because it's not really about like lyrical talent or anything it's more about vibes and it's about making something that sounds dope on the track it's not really about like being able to do that in front of people you know and they're not rocking shows at all like half the time you got fools just randomly screaming ad-libs on the mic while 50 of their friends are on stage most of the times you have a good experience at a rock at a rap show is because the rap music is popular enough that everybody knows and is like doing the heavy lifting for the artist where I was like, you can see a band that kills it that it doesn't really matter if the crowd is like invested in it, you know?

3:32:52They say NBA Youngboy to rap the best rap performer compared to like the Buster Rhymes of the world. Going to the shows and stuff, that's like saying. They used to always say Travis Scott. I feel like NBA Youngboy, like I've seen him live and it's intense but it's because the fans all know the songs. Like he's really not doing much. He barely moves around. He's super emotional. Something like Travis Scott is putting his all into it, running across the stage, jumping off shit, screaming, you know. And even then, those guys pale in comparison to the Busta Rhymes. Yeah, that was like, that's not even close.

3:33:19But then go see Slayer. Right. And it's like these five people all playing in unison and the crowd beating the fuck out of each other. To me, kind of growing up on those kind of live shows, it's kind of hard to get like super excited about rap shows. But if they do the top five hip hop performers, I think DMX will be up there. Yeah, DMX for shows up there. It would be amazing to make my mom cry at this shit and all that kind of shit. And then, like, I hate to pull this trump card every time, but then look at Outkast with a full live band doing amazing performances, hitting every single bar of their really dexterous, nimble rhyme patterns, syllable for syllable.

3:33:52Yeah, but rock, you got people that are just, like, that's my favorite drummer. That's my favorite guitar. Like, it's a whole thing. There's more of a culture celebrating the musicianship in rock. That's undeniable. If you're standing there watching an artist rap, it's like, it would be fair for your attention span to run out sort of quickly. Whereas if you're watching a band, you know, I'm like looking at the drummer like, whoa, like how the fuck does he do that? And then you're looking at the guitarist, you're like, damn, that's crazy. You're looking at the bassist, that's sick. You're like, and then the crowd, like the mosh pit is really underrated too because it's like the crowd becomes part of the show in a way that like rap doesn't typically.

3:34:30Well, that changed over the years, right? because back in the days, like the war shows, like Death Row, they'd be in a sale, they'd come out, spit their verse, come back in a sale, or they'd be on lowrider bikes, all on, like nowadays, like, you know what I'm saying? The Dr. Dre smokeout tour in the year 2000 is on par with any rock performance. The thing about that, like doing the Up in Smoke tour and you got like 10 fire rappers that are very well known and beloved and they're all on tour together. I mean, that's like, that's crazy. It's hard to pull off, like financially, like, people have to take pay cuts to put 10 artists on the road you know you got flea slash you know what i mean like chili peppers you go they love flea they love slash they love travis the the drummer travis yeah barker yeah do i look like travis barker uh okay i hate you square game said munchie keeps talking about q50 might have didn't have it like that to move how much is your life worth you damn fool like okay if you don't have the money you don't have the money the fuck man, what are you talking about, bro?

3:35:31How much is your life worth? And that other guy said, the same guy said, also Munchie, stand your ground laws is not a plus for gang members. I live in Georgia. A preschool teacher will fire your shit up. Gang members ain't extorting shit out here. Well, yeah, there's way less. Shut the fuck up, bro. But he never even mentioned stand your ground. That's what I was saying. Yeah, he never even mentioned that on this pod. No, no, no, no, no, no. I said laws is different, different places. Like if that was out here, laws and like, yo, the people that's in place, which are judicial system. Look at the fucking DA with the thud case.

3:36:01Like that was a poor performance. We have way more aggressive law enforcement and prosecution out here by a significant margin. We recruited from the South. Yeah, and also our city. Like the police, we did a big recruitment. Our city has a lot more money in industry as well. African booty scratcher said W pod on IFG. p barry said lush went from dope to pope all praise to do to jesus christ richard spence said the fact adam and the no jumper genuinely think that lush is clean is hilarious as someone who was an addict for 14 years for clean now i assure you lush is still on dope yeah that's why i get drug tested several times almost every day and yeah and there's no discernible difference between me now and then he's like dmx even if dmx didn't get fucked up for a week he's still going to be dmx they still got these mannerisms from the years of coke and yeah and i'm sorry that you're have 14 years sober and have nothing to show for it except for a super chat meanwhile you're talking about me well i personally feel that i really appreciate the five dollars so thank you yeah thank you for that straight up uh okay it's high key said adam we get it you talk to drake stop dick riding mr morale tour was one of the highest grossing tours of 2023 he's always been major fuck out of here I'm going to say the same thing to you is please get Kendrick Lamar's presumably much smaller meat out of your throat Drake has posted his dick pics your god and savior has not how do you get the presumably I think dick size is somewhat correlated with height so Kenny's already up against the wall and also Drake has put his on display and Drake has knocked down you know like hundreds maybe thousands of women over the years whereas Kendrick has been married to one woman I mean, what could be gayer than that?

3:37:48But then he's like, what the fuck are you talking about? This dude is fucking crazy. Like, what? Mechanical Drew said, Robert Kraft is also Jewish. We know. JR6Dew said, Nathan and Steven can play y 'all the clip where Rio says, fuck no jumper. I'll never go to no jumper. I'll drop a 20 ball. We all seen it. Like, who the fuck? It's not a fucking surprise. They snitching on you? We had beef. Getting snitched on. We had beef in the streets. I saw the clip. I don't know. Fuck. They're going to arrest you next. We had beef in the streets. There's a clip of me talking about how I dragged Rios around the parking lot by his beard.

3:38:28Don't drop that. Me and Adam said some pretty mean things about each other at one point. I actually think I probably never said the word Rios on here prior to us speaking, right? That's what I'm saying. I probably was always talking about it as a group. Okay. Okay, Comptown said, Eva Angelina, one of my goats, for real. Thank you, brother. Shout out to her, man. That was some good gas. Bastard. Dot Focus said, Munchie out here finding Mandela effects. What does that mean? I don't know. Comptown said, I've worn a thong before. That's because I'm a bad bitch. Do your homework. What? That's insane.

3:39:04And there's a quote from a specific rapper? Shout out to him. JE said, talking about headlines, what are your thoughts about 1090 Jake's headline of Q50 gets sent to hell. I did notice that. That was pretty funny. That's pretty extreme. I mean, when your whole deal is saying that you killed nine people, it seems like it's not that extreme to say that you're going to hell. That headliner coming from an X3 person just sounds stupid, bro. Yeah, it's a bit excessive. Hey, man, what if it's making money? I'm actually surprised with the amount of grace that people shot Q50 considering that because a lot of people tend to be way more salacious and say meaner things.

3:39:37I mean, we love them as a killer. and we loved him during life as a killer and we will continue to love him as a killer afterwards. Much like Jeff. Yeah. Wait, did y 'all actually like his music? It was hard. I need to hear something, bro. That Splash Bros song is super sick. Oh, I'm saying the whole time I was in Chicago, that one trip, that was all I listened to and I listened to him a lot, honestly. I would say that the entire Bloodhound outfit has made some of the most interesting Chirac drill in the past few years by a significant margin. But it is murder music. It is murder music. Comptown sent another 20 ball.

3:40:11Shout out to Comptown. He said, WCast today compared to yesterday because there's no fatties. That actually is a good point. I had a lot of fat guys yesterday. Shout out to Nick Lyon, my goat. Shout out to Humpty B, the mayor, and Namaste Rios, my Hindu brother. I know Q50 looking up at this and smiling right now on my granny. Looking up at this and smiling is wild. That is fucking hilarious. Okay, and then JLovesFootball said, Rios I thought you were a good addition to the cast till I heard that episode where you said that it's okay for people to call ICE based on race shameful shameful that's another thing though that him and Brandon are going to agree on Mexican people I don't say that don't say that shit I didn't say that I said I don't think it's racist in all cases oh wait I just realized that this needs to update I have to refresh this or I can just do this so oh okay okay okay okay okay okay i gotta keep scrolling up now fuck oh there's a lot yeah how did that that was weird because the bottom it went to the bottom yeah it's weird how it like it loads and then you know aunt fargo said how's spoty face mad at rnsp but not mad at jay hood whack was right n word scared to jay hood and them dps finally worked what oh okay jay hood had said on the Friday show that there is potentially a boxing match with them or did I am I with sign a contract everybody always revving up for some shit Gene Gotti said Adam just ethered Spody the level of hypocrisy is unprecedented cuz should change his hood name to hippocrip whoa I know Spody that was fine he got he got to get cracking and come back on you for sure he's finna for sure he's gonna have to do an hour-long video trying to explain how it's not massively hypocritical he forgot he had a YouTube channel when he went off on everybody else with YouTube channels.

3:42:09Juju Rose said, Adam, you wrong. He definitely had content that went viral before you, but a lot of his old pages and content... Oh, I already read that. So again, the burden of proof is on the accuser. I'm telling you my lived experience... No, no, no. But that Cardi B, I remember because I asked him about it on the thing, but it wasn't viral. That what? Cardi B. So Cardi B, at one point, she put out an Instagram post and people forget that she's a blood and she wrote something about like coming to LA rocking flu right blue with an F instead of the B which I guess is how they diss Crips and a bunch of different Crips in LA and beyond basically took that as an excuse to like say fuck you to Cardi B and Crip Mac made like a freestyle which in his first interview he does the freestyle where he's like dissing Cardi B however people are saying that that was viral I'm gonna say it was viral on like an extremely small level I'm not talking about that.

3:43:00Well, I think that's the main thing is we need to define what viral. I know. After this go off? Well, he said 2 ,000 likes. Which, yeah. Man, when it go off, I'm going to find it. I'm going to shoot it through. Really? I feel like a viral is a million views. Oh, he's going to pull the million. I mean, it doesn't have to be, but generally. I mean, that was back in the day, so the standard's lower. I think he was L.A. viral for sure. Like, people knew who he was. Burden of proof is on the record. The whole thing is, was he viral before he reached no jumper? That's the only thing. And he wasn't. and nobody can prove that.

3:43:31Okay. Question for Adam. What made you bring C-Mac on the pod if he was not clouded up already? At least a known name because I saw the talent before he was popular which is the difference between me and everybody else out here is I'm able to envision it before they go viral. Everybody else is just trying to catch up with me. You hit a Dr. Dre podcast, man. Thank you. But way better. But way better. Way better. And never beat a girl up. I mean, never mind. I choked one out Tito's Key said Pay Munchie is money Crib Mag went viral on accounts that have been deleted But several people including the two at the table saw Well it was really convenient that every single time he went viral Was deleted That's really easy for me to believe He did lose it He did get a couple pages blamped and shit like that The account that he was on when I first spoke to him Was not the account that ended up being Commandeered by Christopher Lovejoy Okay Come Town said give me 10k and interview me on Plug Talk.

3:44:26You are gay. But also, thank you. Metal Matt said, AI says that Crip Mac was already a recognizable viral internet figure before Adam 22 ever brought him in a jumper. Is the AI wrong this time? Yes. Definitely. Man. Of course it's wrong. Wait, wait, wait. People always act like, I don't acknowledge that the AI is wrong. You know how many fucking times I've asked the AI something and it was wrong? It happens all the time. Like, I've never sat here and said that the AI is always wrong. It was wrong earlier about something. I forgot what it was. You thought it was wrong about the Tupac thing. Man, all right.

3:44:53The Tupac diaper. I'm telling you what a nigga saw. It was something else, too. Sir Nippleton IFG, which, by the way, said, when's the next official pawed off? I'm thinking Brandon Rios on Monday, but he better crack open some textbooks because Brandon gets in here and goes hard. He's very... No, Brandon be having his phone in his hand, bro. Remember Brandon did the debate with the white supremacists and they got along about everything? Yes. They got along. Well, because they both have separatist agendas. Yeah, yeah. The white supremacist sat there and said, I'm not going to lie, I like this guy.

3:45:26He's like, I don't want black people around me either. Really? If I was a pro-black person that was trying to talk shit about Brandon, that would be my first line of defense is look how much this white nationalist liked you. Bro, my money is against that man, bro. I'm not ducking no face. Get Right says, let me tell you something about Munchie B, and that's on a dead homie. Kerr went to Washington homecoming and was in the stands and walked out that motherfucker and nothing happened to him. we've actually heard that story a few times that super chat gets sent almost every time claim to fame made it out there alive what's body fat said this is my favorite crew but this shit would have been nothing without ooh no that's right gang appreciate you without lush we are nothing nothing I mean I didn't mean that's right like that but I appreciate the positive words JR Deuce said I can't even blame Blueface for letting R &B rub on his chest play the clip we did play the clip Phillip said in a song Q50 said he can't go out like Pac just to pass on September 13th like Pac quit dissing Pac that actually is insane somebody just put together that's insane he diss Pac I can't go out like Pac I can't die oh shit he got shot on the 7th and died on the 13th they both died on the 13th Juju Rose message retracted but thank you for the 20 and then movie moments are i said the equivalent of slayer would be a rap group like wu-tang i do i would say that most wu-tang live shows in recent times have been shit shows more or less right like it's pretty hard to get them on the same page well i think uh not having odb although his son does a really good job of like wrapping his parts it's not the same thing yeah and i do feel like there's just a level of cohesion that slayer has to have that's probably way different than Wu-Tang who like realistically probably almost never come together as a big group you know but I do feel them on the it being high energy and you know there's a lot of things to focus on visually because there's multiple members on stage what them rapping well yeah them rapping and just like the different the stylistic differences who stands next to who who's like you know how do they move around just because like you know all these different characters so well yeah at least for me I was like in eighth grade listening to Wu-Tang all day, every day.

3:47:42Yeah, exactly. Ghostface got the Versace robe on. Oh, look at the man with his fangs. You know who we did mention on performance? They went broke because of their performances. Fucking MC Hammer. Well, yeah, that's not a bad mention. He went broke. He was had a hundred. Well, there are several bad financial decisions you can point to for Hammer. How you got broke after having 300 ,000? He literally changed the economy of the city of Oakland. and that's how he went broke. People are always surprised that MC Hammer was the biggest gangster. Yeah, it was marking out. Because the parachute pants, but he was on shit.

3:48:18But at that time, you couldn't be a gangster and just tell your truth as a gangster and then be a popular rapper. MC Hammer could have been Q50 and he would have been wise to keep it very, very low. MC Hammer was a part of Death Row and was just fine. He wasn't getting slapped or that shit. But isn't it way cooler to be a dude like Hammer who is really gangster in real life but then didn't portray that on the mic as opposed to fools that are fake as hell or essentially CB4, fake as fuck on the mic. In the words of Pusheisi on his new album, y 'all trying to live what you rap. I'm just rapping how I'm living.

3:48:52There you go. It's cooler to be yourself. There it is. Six bodies for one person. Love it. Jay Loves Football said... Oh, I already read that. And that's it. So shout out to everybody who watched this. I got to dip out. I will see you guys on this channel. tonight with some reaction videos to FOMO. You watching it live? I'm not going to watch it live. I'm just going to do reaction videos as soon as it's done. Okay. Shout out to everybody. Watch this. We appreciate y 'all. For real, for real. Shout out to Lush. He's got content out there. Mostly him sexting Doughboy. Shout out to Rios and the Society of Freedom.

3:49:32He's got live streams out the wazoo. Brandon, I'm coming for you. He's coming for you. Long Beach. A Long Beach divided cannot stand. We all agree on everything. Shout out to Munchy. Make sure you put everything you do today on IFG unless it's gay. And. What'd he say? Shout out to Mikey. Go follow Mikey. But not too closely because his girlfriend will get mad. Miguel. Appreciate y 'all. Wow. Like button. Like button. Like button.