Sauce Nino on How He Joined BMF, Drama with Big Meech, Deen The Great Beef & More

28 Sep 2026 · 57 min · 25 chapters

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In short

Sauce Nino discusses growing up in Cincinnati’s Kyle Lincoln Heights, early exposure to violence, his “BMF to death” connection to Brothers Moving Forward, and later life as a sober, non-drug user who now runs a construction/renovation business and streams online. He also addresses controversies around Big Meech, Dean the Great, fake social media accounts, the BMF/50 Cent TV-show cancellation fallout, and street dynamics like surveillance and snitching.

Guests

Sauce Nino (hosted by No Jumper’s Mike). Sauce Nino is 28, grew up in Cincinnati, later spent time in Detroit and Atlanta, and says he’s been out of the streets for years. He boxes, doesn’t drink or smoke, and runs a construction company doing apartment-complex renovations and government contracting. He’s also related to Adrian “Adrian Broner” (AB) and is connected to streamer Dean.

Key claims

BMF means “Brothers Moving Forward” (not “blowing money fast”); he doesn’t talk to Big Meech directly; he believes BMF identity comes through “chains” of people; he says a “fake Instagram account” caused a small conflict; he rejects “not really BMF” accusations; he says the streets are dead due to surveillance and fear of jail.

Notable examples

seeing a headshot murder at age 10; referencing New Jack City as inspiration for the “Nino” name; discussing BMF show cancellation after a Rick Ross photo; describing surveillance video leading to investigations (Nipsey Hussle’s brother’s restaurant shooting example); recounting a warehouse streaming misunderstanding tied to court and a security guard; Adrian Broner’s alcohol dependence and streaming chaos.

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Chapters

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Sauce Nino's Background and Fitness

0:30 to 2:30

Sauce Nino discusses his fitness routine and background in boxing.

“Cool Jumper, coolest podcast in the world.”

Growing Up in Cincinnati

2:30 to 4:40

Exploration of Sauce Nino's upbringing in a tough Cincinnati neighborhood.

“For the people out there, tell them about where you're coming from, where you grew up and everything.”

A Traumatic Childhood Experience

4:40 to 5:30

Sauce Nino recounts witnessing a murder at the age of 10.

“It's like aunt cousin, you know what I mean?”

Family and Street Life

5:30 to 7:50

Sauce discusses his family's involvement in hustling and his relationship with his father.

“I feel like it's still a little mysterious to people.”

The Streets of Cincinnati

7:50 to 10:00

A discussion on the changes in Cincinnati's neighborhoods over time.

“I just was just influenced by shit I synced on the movies.”

Influences and Early Aspirations

10:00 to 12:30

Sauce Nino shares how movies influenced his ambitions in hustling.

“It's like, you should not take out billboards no matter how well business is going.”

BMF and Business Mindset

12:30 to 14:00

Sauce talks about his association with BMF and his current business ventures.

“There's nothing good enough to hit it raw?”

BMF Connections and Street Life

14:00 to 15:01

Explore how Sauce Nino got involved with BMF and the street culture surrounding it.

“or how you became cool with BMF or whatever.”

Understanding the BMF Landscape

15:48 to 18:40

Discussion on the complexities of BMF affiliation and the role of leaders like Big Meech.

“Okay, let's ask that question for the No Jumbo audience.”

Cultural Differences Between Detroit and Cincinnati

18:40 to 22:44

Sauce Nino shares insights into the cultural dynamics of Detroit compared to Cincinnati.

“If I could remember, it's been so long ago.”
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Big Meech and Industry Relationships

22:44 to 26:53

Discussion about Big Meech's relationships in the industry and the impact of controversies.

“How do you feel when you saw that play out?”

Beef with Deen The Great

26:53 to 28:00

Conversation about the ongoing tension between Sauce Nino and Deen The Great.

“If that shit don't mean shit, you know, I definitely don't give a f***.”

Drama with Dean and Sauce Walker

28:00 to 29:13

Discussing the changing dynamics and drama surrounding Dean and Sauce Walker.

“I mean he's got a little bit more sauce now you know that money will do that to you.”

Sauce Preferences and Personality

29:13 to 30:39

Sauce Nino shares his thoughts on sauces and personal food preferences.

“Sauce like affiliated with Sauce Walker?”

Streaming Insights and Challenges

30:40 to 33:19

Exploring the challenges and realities of streaming, including longevity and engagement.

“um okay hold on you know I was gonna find it hold on what that mean hold on let me play it again but that sounds like that's him I'm like questioning the validity of it.”

Family Ties and Adrian Broner

33:20 to 36:18

Sauce Nino discusses his relationship with Adrian Broner and his rise in boxing.

“So like during his whole come up and everything, were you around him?”

Adrian Broner's Struggles

36:19 to 37:35

Discussing Adrian Broner's struggles with alcohol and the impact on his life.

Streaming Relationships and Professionalism

37:36 to 39:56

Analyzing the relationship dynamics between Adrian Broner and Dean in a streaming context.

“The one don't work without the other, if that makes sense.”

Kicked Out of the Warehouse

39:57 to 42:04

Sauce Nino recounts his experience of being kicked out of the warehouse and the circumstances around it.

“He'd been on Strange Streaming this soon.”

Sauce Nino's Streaming Experience

42:04 to 44:28

Sauce Nino shares his unexpected journey into streaming and the challenges he faced.

“Yeah, but I ended up having to go to court.”

Personal Tragedy and Streaming

44:28 to 45:55

He reveals the emotional impact of his girlfriend's tragic death while starting his streaming career.

Relationships and Loyalty

45:55 to 48:18

The conversation dives into loyalty among friends and the complexities of personal relationships within their circle.

“Crazy part about it was, that's why I was kind of upset too, because I was supposed to come home, and I ended up staying up there with Adrian.”

The State of the Streets

48:18 to 52:41

Sauce Nino discusses his views on the modern street life, snitching, and the influence of social media on crime.

“Maybe my problem is that I keep looking on shorts.”

Future Plans and Streaming Focus

52:41 to 55:51

He outlines his future plans involving content creation, music, and his strategy for success.

“How long would you say you've been out the streets, cleaned up your act, if you will?”

Sauce Nino's Social Media and Podcast Promotion

56:00 to 56:41

Learn about Sauce Nino's presence on social media and the podcast's platforms.

“I do mad shit I do mad shit so they just about getting the cameraman and just filming the shit getting it all the way down packed for sure um if they want to follow you though your Sauce Nino on kick.”
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Transcript

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0:01FX's American Horror Story returns for an unrivaled 13th installment. With the iconic horrors you love to fear and an all-star cast reprising fan-favorite roles. Light your candles, draw your pentagrams, and prepare for a supreme surprise. FX's American Horror Story 13. Now streaming on Hulu. Cool Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Today, we're tapping in with a name that's been gaining a lot of attention on the scene. We're going to talk about all these moments and much, much more. Sauce Nino is in the building. What up, dude? How you feeling, dog? I'm Mike. What's the shirt say? Echelon? Yeah, this is my man's brand.

0:49Oh, okay. That's what's up. Yeah. That's like a workout shirt type material. He do workout materials. Okay, nice. You big on exercise? Yeah, a little bit. What kind of stuff do you do? What? I do a little working out. I do a little running. Just running? No, no, for real, for real. I box for real, for real. Oh, I heard you talking about that a little bit, yeah. Yeah, I do a little boxing. So you got a mean squabble or what? Do I got a fight coming up? No, I mean, would you say that you're like pretty up there as far as like fist fighting? Oh, for sure. Really? For sure. What was your last squabble?

1:25The last fight I had? Yeah. What are you talking about the last? LA would say squabble, but yeah, fight, sure. You talking about like street fight? Yeah. Yeah, it's been a minute. If I had a street fight, it's been a minute. Is that because you just have enough self-control at this point to avoid it? Right, right. You got enough to lose so that it just feels like it ain't worth it? Right. I feel that. I had a drunk-ass dude who was possibly loaded off other drugs trying to fight me and a couple people on Hollywood Boulevard a couple months ago. How'd that go? I'm just like, why would I imagine hitting this guy?

2:05It's just loaded out of his mind. If I punch this guy, for sure I'm getting sued. You think somebody tried to sue you? That guy would sue me, yeah, for sure. And he would find a camera around there. It's going down. It's just not worth it. Okay. Now, if it's a real threat, okay. But he's loaded, wasted. Yeah, the last street fight I had was a minute ago. It's been a minute. It's all shit. For the people out there, tell them about where you're coming from, where you grew up and everything. I grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio. I grew up in the neighborhood of Kyle Lincoln Heights. Terrible neighborhood, by the way.

2:41Really? Worst neighborhood in Cincinnati. What was so bad about it? Was it gang activities? Yeah, murdering, killing, drug dealing, shit like that. So you got exposed to it from a really young age? Absolutely. What's your earliest memory of something that you feel like really might have traumatized you a little bit looking back on it? I seen somebody get murdered when I was 10. 10? Mm-hmm. What kind of scenario? Headshot. What? Robbery. Just was the guy like in his car or something or? Nah, hell nah. A guy was leaning out of his car. Oh. And somebody walked up on him and shot him. was it was it the kind of situation where like people on the block tried to like minimize it tried to act like it didn't happen tried to like breeze past it or whatever or was it like did you understand what a big deal it was yeah it was a big deal it was a big deal big deal but I think they tried to keep it quiet for a second I think the person who ended up doing the murder ended up getting like I think 10 years oh shit that's about it though damn But yeah, we've been exposed to real violence back in the day for a long time.

3:49What about your parents? What were they on? No, they was hustlers. Okay. Because you said your mom did time at one point. Yeah, my mom and my pops. Was your dad around consistently? Nah, hell no. He was just in the streets, hustling? He went to jail for a long time. Really? Okay. Looking back on that, you think that had a real impact on you? No. Really? why you say that that shit really didn't matter for real you know i i was raised by my mom's and my grandmother so no that shit didn't matter you don't think a kid misses out on something by not having a father figure around yeah hell yeah definitely but shit probably now i mean you know back then you know um you had a lot of father figures in the streets you know i mean it might be this guy who which will just like a father to you he ain't your dad but you feel me it's something like it giving you guidance and shit you get on saying right so so you think you tried to like form father figures from the dudes who were oh no hell no father figures too much no it was more like unks yeah i mean oh shit not no father now but if they're looking out for you selflessly like if they're if they care about your well-being beyond just like your ability to help them yeah That's fair to call them a father figure, right?

5:10Nah. Nah, man. It's like aunt cousin, you know what I mean? Street cousin, street aunt, you know what I mean? Okay. Shit like that. Makes sense. Okay, but Cincinnati, not necessarily like the most well-known city to the average person. I feel like it's still a little mysterious to people. How would you describe what the streets of Cincinnati was like? back then? Yeah, and now too. Back then it was bad. Now, it's been gentrified a little bit. I mean, you still got your certain hoods, you get what I'm saying, but for the most part, it's kind of a nice city to live in now. Really? Does that hurt you a little bit to see the local flair leave?

5:58No. No? You're into it? Give me all the coffee shops and vintage clothes shops. Yeah, wouldn't it be nice? I mean, new people move in. No, I'm on your side. Because, I mean, I just you know, as much as you, like, lose some culture as an area becomes gentrified. Right. And I do think it makes sense to have, like, deliberate efforts to maintain the local culture. It's also, like, you know, a lot of these areas are places where people were dying and terrible shit was going on on a day-to-day basis. It's, like, kind of hard to ignore that. Like, a lot of times those areas getting cleaned up takes it from an area that's like a super high concentration of murders every year to like a place where old people and kids feel safe being outside.

6:46I mean, right. I don't know. Hmm. Not for you a little bit, but are there areas that you like remember as a child that you, you can't go back because of the, all the local flair is gone. Uh, no, not necessarily. I mean, shit just get added. It don't really I mean but some shit get taken away. You know what I mean? It's a neighborhood where it used to be a hangout spot. It would be a restaurant, some old stores. That shit gone now. They turned that to apartment buildings. There's probably plenty of families that are happy that you and your homies aren't hanging out there anymore too, right? I'm sure y 'all weren't exactly keeping your noses clean.

7:29No. No, no. My neighborhood kind of small. Nah, everybody know everybody. Right. Mm-hmm. So you were always attracted to, like, the hustling side of things? Yeah, I was a good kid, though. You did good in school? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Who first, like, kind of put you on game about, like, other ways that you can make money? Shit. Music, TVs. For real? I just was just influenced by shit I synced on the movies. I watched New Jack City and thought I could do it. Really? That's where I got the name Nino from. Really? Mm-hmm. But did that tell you, like, oh, those people who are f***ed up on the block, like, that's what they're doing?

8:15Like, I'm watching New Jack City, and I'm like, oh, now I get it. Or did you get because you were already just, like, outside? Yeah, I was outside and just put two and two together. I thought maybe I could be a Nino Brown. Mm-hmm. That's crazy. as a kid yeah because like when I was a kid when I think about it I'll go downtown in the small city that I grew up in and it was like there were people that were just junkies but it and then I'm listening to rap and they're rapping about selling crack but I didn't put two and two together that like oh crack makes these people like that it took me a little while to like put it all together Oh, yeah.

8:57No, no, no, no. Not me. Okay. Not me. So how do you become Nino at the Carter? Just like... How do you become it? Just get a pack and just flip it? Or like, how do you begin this mission? Mm-hmm. Well, from the movie... From the movie, I think he... Let me think. It took over a block. Mm-hmm. No, I'm sorry. From the movie, he made a plug, got his right-hand man, got a team, took over the block, then somehow finessed the property manager into giving him the carter, took over the carter. And, uh, shit. I know that's a fictional story, but that does kind of stand out to me as, like, if you want to run a drug empire, that is what you should not do.

9:57you should not take over the whole project building like your your network needs to especially in this day and age easier said than done but like your network should not be so tightly concentrated in a way where it's like easy for the feds to just like surround your your building right right right and also even when i look at your bmf necklace that kind of makes me think about the same thing. It's like, you should not take out billboards no matter how well business is going. What does BMF mean? It looks something different. How so? I know there's multiple BMFs, apparently. Yeah. This one actually stands for Brothers Moving Forward.

10:40Okay. You know, we in the gentrifying things and making things a little... so that's a modern interpretation you no longer want to glorify blowing money fast no this is no brother's moving forward yeah blowing money fast is not really like what you should be encouraging for the world i guess if you think about it not at all it's nice to be able to blow some money if you got it but for the average person that's really like not what you should be encouraging like you know if you're a dental assistant right should really be saving your money yeah i believe in saving money all the time yeah it's really like what's gonna get you ahead in life is saving as much money to save you invest it conservatively yeah most of the you know then you want to have like a percentage of your money that you can use for a little bit more volatile, high-risk investments, especially if they're like things that you're passionate about that you want to pursue.

11:48Right. You finished high school? Mm-hmm. Did you go to college? No, I didn't go to college. You think about it? Do I think about going to college? No. Did you think about it at that time, or was it just not really even a thing? No. So a couple of my guys went to college. I just was there on the weekends having a ball. Okay. And I go back to my normal life. Okay. So you just go there? Party. Make a little money? I would party. Just party? Yeah. No Tee Grizzly shit? Nah. Just party a little bit. You know what I mean? Kick it. Go to the little cute parties. Go home. What's your partying like? You like drink?

12:27Smoke? Anything like that? Nah. I don't do neither for real, for real. So what's partying? I don't know. Kick it with the females. You might turn up with some females. Get a couple number or two. You know what I mean? Okay. See what the vibe is? Hookah. You know what I mean? Hit it raw. Hit it raw is crazy. Nah, ain't nobody. Nah. There's nothing good enough to hit it raw? Nah. Damn, for real? Nah. I feel like almost anything is good enough to hit raw. Nah. Not today's time. See, that's like the vibe I've been getting from when I was watching your interview clips. I'm like, this is a very conservative guy.

13:02Like, he's not really trying to give away too much. I already knew, but I knew you were going to say you didn't drink and smoke. I didn't even hear you say that, but I could just tell. This guy, he's sober as a judge. Absolutely. I'm doing none of them things yet now. Yeah. Okay. But so would you say that throughout your 20s? What part of your life is the part of your life where – and how old are you right now? I'm 28. 28. So 10 years after high school. Would you say that you were just in the streets, you were hustling and whatnot for the vast majority of that? No. So I own a construction company.

13:39Okay. I mean, I do renovations for apartment complexes. Uh-huh. And we do government contracting. Really? Mm-hmm. We got a team, and we go around just fixing shit up. Okay. But I saw a clip where they were asking you how you got accepted into BMF or how you became cool with BMF or whatever. Shout out to my boy, Mafi, who was doing that interview. Mm-hmm. and you just let out this like long drawn out laugh that maybe we can insert here the intent like what i got from it was listen i was so in the streets that i can't even begin to speak on what i have seen that's how it's okay that what you're doing right now is not so dissimilar from the laugh that I heard in that video.

14:37That's why I took from it.

14:47I was BMF to death, man. I was BMF to death, man. Boy. All right.

15:01This is another interesting aspect of the personality. He's got like a laughing going on. Am I not correctly describing that clip? No. FX's American Horror Story returns for an unrivaled 13th installment. with the iconic horrors you love to fear and an all-star cast reprising fan-favorite roles. Light your candles, draw your pentagrams, and prepare for a supreme surprise. FX's American Horror Story 13. Now streaming on Hulu.

15:47Oh, shit. Somebody's got the giggles. Oh. No? Okay. God. Hell no. You is comedy. All right. Okay. All right, let's do that. Okay, let's ask that question for the No Jumbo audience. How did you get tapped in with BMF? Feel free to give me a sort of vague, evasive answer, I understand.

16:17Oh. It's been so long. Where do I begin?

16:28I don't know. I just, why would you just have to be there? They say it was the craziest time ever. You just had to be there. I don't know. You just had to be there. But you're kind of young for it because if you're 28, I mean, I feel like in 2016 BMF had already been taken down. That's when you're like 18. I mean I guess BMF was taken down to a certain extent but probably continued on in other ways. Was Meech already gone by the time you started being around people?

17:07Yeah no. Yeah no. I think Meech had been yeah yeah no. Yeah, no. Okay. Yeah, no. He was there, but he went around, but then he was locked up. But, you know, I got a couple family members, you know what I mean? Okay. Who represent brothers moving forward. Because, like, so there's a clip of Big Beach on stream. They ask him if you're valid BMF, and he gives kind of like a weird answer where he doesn't say no, but he says that there's various pathways to being BMF, that not everybody necessarily went through him, which makes sense. He did over a decade in prison. So obviously he wasn't going to necessarily be involved with everybody who claimed it.

17:57What were your thoughts when you seen that clip? Oh, 100%. Everybody probably came through somebody. You know what I mean? It's just, like I said in the last joint, who the starter of the GDs? Larry Hoover. Larry Hoover. Not everybody know Larry Hoover. Right. I mean, you got some people who Larry Hoover, then you got a chain of people who then came down from them, then a chain of people who then came down from them. So, I mean, a lot of people put people on. Interesting. So there's no, like, BMF put on? Nah. They don't take you out in the alley? Nah. More like a respect thing? You just had to be there.

18:46If I could remember, it's been so long ago. When we think about being mad, we think about Atlanta. Were you hanging out around there a lot? Nah, somewhere. I was in Detroit, though. Okay. So I was in Detroit and in Atlanta. Did your family live in Detroit at a certain point? Okay. Mm-hmm. All my family live in Detroit. Oh, okay. So you would be kind of bouncing back and forth between there and Cincinnati? Mm-hmm. What's the difference, like, culturally? What were you able to get out of each different environment? Detroit a little harsher than Cincinnati. Really? Yeah. Harsher in what way? Just every way.

19:31Like, it's just a separate place. you gotta be on your P's and Q's you gotta be on your P's and Q's in Cincinnati too though but Detroit you gotta really be on your P's and Q's like you don't know what the fuck can happen you get what I'm saying you never know this nigga might be cool right here he ain't cool you know what I mean I mean that's just what area you wear though you know what I mean but in Detroit from Cincinnati Detroit is a little scabber a little harsh what's what area is more you know are the police more of a factor because I feel like every different city has like a different vibe in terms of like how on your ass the cops are going to be

20:20where to police patrol more is what you're asking yeah or like what probably the east side of Detroit oh okay probably the east side that's where a lot of shit be happening from back then from what I know. I mean shit it's been a minute. So I don't know. I would say the east side though. From back then. When you first start communicating with Big Meech like he got out of prison and you just like tapped in or how'd that go?

20:50Evil laugh. Why is that even? But you're acting like it's like a fed question. It's like I'm just asking like did you talk to him or whatever. I would assume he doesn't do any kind of illegal behavior anymore. I would think. Nah, I don't talk to Meach like that. Okay. Talk to him a few times. I don't talk to him like that, though. Because it feels like there's a little bit of friction. Because the way he answered that question on stream was a little awkward. And then you, in the mafia interview I watched, you were saying, like, me and Meach already had a situation going on, and we had to talk about it off camera.

21:29And like, yeah, that could be something that's like something where there's not friction between you. But it sounded like it was probably something where there's a little something to be resolved. You know, I want shit. It wasn't shit for real. I think, what was it? I think it might have been somebody else. You know what I mean? Somebody pretending to be me or something like that. And they had said some things. I think that's how it went. Right. and then they reached out to me and I'm like nah oh somebody else was like fake Instagram account or something I don't know I never really got down to the bottom of it huh that's a real thing though there's examples I've seen in Trap Low Ross videos where people are like Chicago gangsters are like on Instagram live and somebody got a fake screen name of their op and they start talking shit in the chat and then all of a sudden the dude on live is like freaking out threatening, screaming on their op and it's not their op.

22:29It's just some kid. Yeah, it wasn't nothing like that. The situation was kind of small. It just was like somebody was pretending to be me. That's what it was. Somebody was pretending to be me. That's all it was. So, okay, let's go back in time. Big Meech gets out of jail. He's doing the TV show with 50. Lil Meech is on the show. It all seems like okay, this is dope. This is going in a good direction and then they take a picture with Rick Ross who is one of 50 Cent's top ops, someone that he clearly has no love for many decades now BMF show gets cancelled, it's just over all of a sudden 50, the king of petty just whatever all these people, all these jobs working on this show Oh, it's done.

23:26How do you feel when you saw that play out? Like, was that a miscalculation on the Meeches' part by thinking that they could play both sides like that? That I don't know. I didn't really know about their situation. You know what I'm saying? I can't really speak on that. I don't know. You know, you just never know. Like, was it real? I don't know. I really don't know. would you take a picture with 50 Cent? Would I take a picture? Yeah. Given that you've got some kind of relationship with Big Meech. I mean, I ain't got a problem with 50. I mean, I don't. But do you feel like you owe Big Meech loyalty in that regard?

24:13Are his ops your ops? I mean, at least his high profile ops. Hey, you is funny. I'm just putting it together.

24:26we're all in the streets here

24:32nah I don't nah I don't nah

24:38I don't know I don't know 50 cent probably never run across probably I don't know he's gonna see the BMF chain he's gonna be like I wanna take a flick with that guy that's gonna piss somebody off 50 smart like that he's at least gonna be like who are you state your name and where you're from.

24:59Hey, you is comedy. Do you have a relationship with Lil Meech? Do you know him? Do I know Lil Meech? Yeah. No. I had a couple conversations with him. I know him. Okay. Mm-hmm. I feel like they probably think I hate them because I do a podcast with Wack and Wack has made it one of his chosen missions in life to keep insults upon Meech. You know what, though? I thought they was cool now, though. I don't know. If that's true, I don't know about it. I thought they was cool. I think Wack 100 did an interview. Had Meech on the phone. It was saying that... Matter of fact, I thought he did an interview with Vlad.

25:41I don't know. He said that the other guy was putting false allegations on his name. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. If I'm not mistaken. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, like, do you feel like that whole snitching controversy that was being pushed there for a while, did that do damage to the BMF brand name? Did it do damage to the name? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Do you think the streets, like, went for it, or is that something that they're not fully supporting? Nobody's supporting it if meets a snitch. Ain't nobody. You ain't going for it? That shit goofy. You got to, for you to be a snitch, you got to have the name got to be in the paperwork.

26:18like it just gotta be in black and white yeah the theories always seemed a little contrived to me too where it's like we can't prove he's telling but it looks like this other person's telling on his behalf or whatever I'm like I don't know if you could really chalk that one up it don't seem like something anybody's ever gonna be able to agree on nah

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26:39yeah nah so what would be your message to people who try to say that you're not really from BMF Do you even care to correct the record? Hell no, I don't give a f***. That shit don't mean shit. You know what I mean? If that shit don't mean shit, you know, I definitely don't give a f***. See, it is what it is. People don't think what they think anyway. You know what I mean? It's kind of interesting. What about when Dean said that he was going to call Big Meech to DPU for faking that you're in BMF? Like, was Dean, was he just tweaking when he said that? but he's corrected it, didn't he? Did he? Let's pull it up.

27:20Oh, shit. Oh, where's my phone then? The one that's streaming, or you got it? I need a phone, somebody. Just go to Instagram. Dean the Great Sauce Nino. I'm doing this on YouTube. Hopefully, we got some good reels that are coming up. They got the white shirt on?

27:47I'm not seeing anything about Meech maybe I should put Meech's name in this shirt too or in the search

27:57you got a contagious laugh you should really wreck bro but bro there's a lot of clips of Dean throwing shade at you huh you really own that it's kind of crazy just cause like I knew Dean like six months ago and like his gangsterness has been turned up significantly since then like his whole vibe has changed quite a bit. Has it? I mean he's got a little bit more sauce now you know that money will do that to you. Oh shit I don't know I didn't know him. I can't find it maybe I should search on Instagram or whatever but it didn't come up on YouTube shorts. Nah it didn't come up on YouTube. I'm gonna search on Instagram sauce Nino and then I'll just do Meech.

28:51I don't see... I still see the clip of Meech talking about if you were just a fan or not. Let me see that phone, bro. Let me see your phone.

29:12Wait, but so you're not Sauce like affiliated with Sauce Walker? No. You're a different Sauce? Yeah. I'm Sauce Nino. Okay. And there's no relation? Nah, ain't no relation to me. That's one of the bros, though. Okay. Yeah, he's one of the bros. Is there ever been confusion in that regard? Yeah, absolutely. Do you ever think about becoming a Sauce Factory guy? Sauce Factory? Yeah. You're talking about with TSF? Yeah.

29:49Nah, that's the bro brand. You're your own man? Yeah. Yeah, that's one of the bras. What's your favorite sauce? What's my favorite sauce? Yeah. Honey mustard, chipotle sauce, mayonnaise, crema. Nah, I don't like none of that shit you said. What? Ketchup? I don't like ketchup either. Mustard? Just regular old mustard? Uh-huh. Nothing? What the? That's kind of insane. Shit, hot sauce is cool. Hot sauce? Yeah. Just that, though? Yeah, it's cool. Nothing tangy? Nah, I don't eat all that other stuff. No mayonnaise? No ranch? Nah. I mean, I might eat ranch on a salad or something. Okay. Yeah, that's crucial.

30:38Yeah, you're going to need that. You're going to need a sauce for a salad. um okay hold on you know I was gonna find it

30:57hold on what that mean hold on let me play it again

31:09but that sounds like that's him I'm like questioning the validity of it. Oh, no, no, no. You want to hear it again? Hold on, hold on, hold on. You hear that? You hear that? Oh, he said your family. Oh, there you go. That was dope.

31:30Would we see you and Big Me's doing a whole stream together? I don't know. That could be cool. I don't know. I got to get the stream all the way down for real, for real. Oh, you feel like you're still pulling it together? Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. I'm still learning the logistics of it. That's the new trap for a lot of people. Yeah. I'm here. I heard. Do you, I mean, do you feel like it's for you? Because one thing with me is it just feels like draining being on that shit for three, four hours at a time. And then just like when I see people who are down, I feel like I almost do, I go too hard streaming.

32:06I talk too much. I'm like trying to always be doing something interesting. When I actually really watch people who stream for long periods of time, a lot of it is very low effort. They'll just kind of be driving, like not really talking on the camera that much. No, I like streaming. You got to have the personality for it. Yeah. See, me, I laugh a lot, play around, do mad shit. It's a lot for me to stream. You know what I mean? Are you single? Yeah. Is that something you would stream? Dates? Nah, hell nah. Do you want to make that part of it? Nah, yeah, nah. That's some good content. A lot of streamers, that's kind of like what they're doing out here.

32:46They're just hanging out with chicks. Nah, not me. Not me. Okay. That'd be cool. So Adrian Broner's your cousin? Mm-hmm. How much were you around him growing up and everything? I was around him a lot. Really? Mm-hmm. Was he always a very magnetic figure from a young age? Was he like always kind of the dude? Yeah. Really? Absolutely. Because of boxing or even before boxing, did he have like a rep? No, he was always good in boxing. He can rap his ass out too. Yeah. But he was used to do both. He was a rap and he was a box. He can dance too. He's a little older than you? Yeah. He's probably 10 years older than me.

33:34Oh, okay. So like during his whole come up and everything, were you around him? what was that like was it insane to have that much energy around him yeah nah he was the same person same guy he stayed the same even as he blew up I feel like he like kind of lost his shit nah he gonna always be one way yeah but I mean the alcohol really like took hold at a certain point right uh yeah no I mean he'd be a little turnt with that guy a little I mean I feel like he's one person where throughout my whole life observing people who are alcoholics he might take the cake like he seems very powerless to alcohol like he I hope he finds his way but it's going to take a serious intervention to get him to clean his act up because he'll he's an alcoholic in a way that is hard for me to even relate to.

34:40I was just like never even close to that. No, I don't think he drank as much as people think. What? Bro, they did that like 45-day lock-in, and he went hard for like two weeks, and then he was just fucked up the whole end of it. What was he doing? Like, was he? Seemed like he was not just drinking, if you know what I mean. Nah, that nigga don't do no drugs, man. He's staying up super late. I'm just like watching his YouTube videos, like compiling the clips and shit. I mean, even when I interviewed him, it was crazy because like he's basically sober. It's maybe 4 p.m. or something, 5 p.m. when we're doing the interview.

35:19He's still sober. He's chill. He asks us to get him Henny. We order a bottle of Henny. Pours up the cup of Coke and Henny. It's probably like 75 % Henny. A little splash of Coke. And he's just wearing a white shirt, and he just takes it and just drinks the entire cup like it's nothing. Dripping all over his shirt. He don't give a fuck. And within 20 minutes, well, also he did that, like, again, like, five minutes later. He just slams another huge one. Within 20 minutes, you almost, like, couldn't understand what he was talking about. Like, he went from, like, perfectly normal, coherent, talking about his life and everything, to, like, you almost, like, I'm sitting there.

36:04kind of but just wondering like wait what are you talking about dude like what how long was he here for like was he that was probably an hour and a half and that was towards the interview when he did it i wish i had told him like no alcohol until the end so did he walk out after he did it oh i mean i kind of had to end it at a certain point because it just wasn't really making that much sense yeah but it was good but like you just and even when he was talking about drinking he was talking about like how he'd stop drinking and get like cold sweats and I'm like oh yeah that's serious shit right there that's like pretty that's a sign right there that you're way too dependent on this shit you gotta go help your cousin nah he don't drink as much as people think though you have to say that you're like a street dude so you're like not trying to snitch on anybody even for their drinking I see what you're doing I think he don't drink as much as people think though I was just waiting for the past two days maybe just easing up on it a little bit you think him and Dean are ever going to break up they're like teasing it every week him and Dean will ever break up it feels like they break up like approximately once or twice a week and then they get back cool and I'm the idiot who keeps believing it every time I see a clip I'm like wow they're finally broken up yeah nah I don't think they're ever breaking up man really I don't think so it feels like Dean is so frustrated with his lack of professionalism but then at the same time he kind of knows that they need to stick it out and I feel like Adrian hates being told what to do and hates having somebody kind of constantly trying to direct him to do shit and like Dean seems pretty like about it when it comes to business and everything like he really wants to be a top streamer he wants to be successful and it's got to be difficult feeling like you're kind of dragging AB along for the ride.

38:01I think they need each other.

38:05The one don't work without the other, if that makes sense. When it comes to the top streamers, most of them are pretty normal. Aiden Ross. Kind of like a normal guy. He's funny. He's capable of being goofy on stream and stuff like that. He's kind of just a regular guy. Neon. Most regular guy ever. He's just like a random Indian dude. who's he's chill but he's not he's a regular guy even me i'm kind of i might be into some weird shit but i kind of come off as a regular guy you got to take the regular guy and put him with the crazy person a b and dean makes sense because you you you see yourself through dean and then you're constantly having to watch him deal with this guy who's who's out of his mind and constantly putting dean under pressure he's constantly putting dean in a state of chaos but dean needs that to be entertaining otherwise it's kind of like what is he even doing um yeah i mean and even like there was a clip yesterday where uh lemmy from zeus was talking to ab basically telling him because you know he sponsored that whole like lock-in stream or whatever like zeus logos everywhere and he basically told dean or he told ab like you got to get this together like we're not going to keep giving y 'all money if you guys are not because like ab's like not even really showing up on stream that much just kind of sleeping all day lemmy's feeling like i'm putting all this money into sponsoring you guys and you're not really like coming through on your end of the deal if you want to see fireworks it's going to be if that happens and then dean is like feeling like oh we lost this like huge sponsor because ab wasn't taking it serious enough that that might be a hard thing for their relationship to survive.

39:49Yeah, I didn't see the clip though. That's crazy. I hope... It would seem like Adrian liked him now. He'd been on Strange Streaming this soon. So how did the thing happen when you getting kicked out of the warehouse if you're AB's cousin? Why was Dean tripping? I have no idea. I just was there and then I wasn't. I don't know. Isn't that like a simple conversation? They shouldn't be like, hey, I'm AB's cousin. I mean, I guess AB would have to verify that, but I was surprised it went that way. I don't know.

40:25I don't know why that happened. I mean, it's kind of weird. There's another dude, Willie, who's an up-and-coming streamer, Willie Beeman, and he... What the fuck? Hold on. Willie Beeman. What? Is that weird? Nah. That's his name for real? Yeah. No, it ain't, bro. Why? That's the nigga. That's Jamie. Nah. What? That's Any Given Sunday. That's where he got that name from? I don't know. I haven't seen it. No, okay. I've never seen or heard of him. He might have borrowed the name from a movie. Yeah. Oh, but he also came on the podcast and had a whole story basically about Dean aggressively kicking him out of the warehouse because he showed up on a stream with a bunch of girls.

41:15Dean tripped on him, kicked him out. He was pissed. Damn. They kicked him out. Just flat out kicked him out? Oh, yeah. Like Dean said, you get out? Basically, he was get the fuck out of here, yeah. No, actually, you know, it was like Sauce Walker kicked him out primarily. Nah, I ain't sink that shit either. Oh, man. Damn.

41:39Yeah, that's unfortunate. A lot of people are getting the boot over there. But is that like, how do you deal with that as a man of respect who's really in these streets when you're on a stream and you got this kid just disrespecting you? I didn't really give a f*** too much. The reason why I gave a f*** and I made videos is because, you know I mean you know I was really new to the streaming world I didn't know that the stream Chad or Raze bait you into thinking specific oh yeah so when because keep in mind you know I was only supposed to be there for three days I had to go back to court and shit okay so I wasn't trying to stay there that long but um you had to go to court yeah I had to court for what for driving driving?

42:27Driving recklessly? No. Did you do a donut? No. I just had a court for driving. Wait, you were driving with them bows? What were you driving with? No, I caught a ticket. Oh. I caught a ticket. Seatbelt or something?

42:49What? Yeah, but I ended up having to go to court. And, yeah, I was only supposed to be there for three days, but I know my flight left, like, early that morning. So, really, I was supposed to stay there for, like, maybe two and a half days. But I knew I couldn't stay at the warehouse. You get what I'm saying? Why? I don't know. To be honest, they said it wasn't enough room. Just too much of, like, a nasty dude area or what? I don't know. It just wasn't enough room. I mean, you're BMF. You got to stay in, like, the Ritz. Nah, we ain't got to stay in the Ritz. Nah, but you got to stay in the Marriott.

43:28Yeah, we stay in the Marriott. Something decent, right? Yeah, we stay in the Marriott for sure. Okay. But, yeah, like they had already, the manager had already hit me and said I couldn't stay there. So that wasn't a problem. You know what I'm saying? So when I got there and shit, the security guard kicked me out. Okay. He said that the upper management said I couldn't be there at all. And you're pissed because you like flew out to be part of this? Yeah, type shit. And I was mad because I'm like, damn, if I'm here for two days, why the fuck would I not be able to come back to the warehouse? But they said it was a misunderstanding, though.

44:03I guess the security guard fucked up. But the reason why I got mad is because when I was on my way to the airport, again, like I said, I didn't know nothing about the streaming world at first. I didn't know that they could raise bait you. Oh, so you're moving everything in the chat? Nah, the stream started saying he was talking about my deceased BM. So that's why I went up on him. what and that was just totally made up out of thin air yeah yeah what just the whole shit with me and dean just a misunderstanding wow um what was that situation uh your baby mother died yeah so i was in los angeles um that's when i first started streaming with them okay adrian invited me out to los angeles but it happened during that while you were out there yeah what the her friend up um driving some tried to go around the car and uh a semi came this way and smacked him head on and how old is the baby no she's pregnant no no she was pregnant she wasn't oh i thought you already had a kid oh my god dude yeah so is that like unbelievably difficult to deal with like I could imagine that would probably make you not want to stream it was at first I was super upset I ain't gonna lie what the crazy experience you don't like how would you say you grieved or dealt with that you're kind of a stoic guy shit you just yeah you cry in privacy yeah nobody see you cry that was your girlfriend at the time Mm-hmm.

45:43Damn. That's my best friend. For real, for real. How long were you together? For a minute. What? Long time. Years? Long time. That was like, ugh. Crazy part about it was, that's why I was kind of upset too, because I was supposed to come home, and I ended up staying up there with Adrian. Extreme longer. Uh-huh. That's when it happened. But did you feel like AB didn't do enough to stand on business for you with the security and shit? Man, at the end of the day, shit, he's, hey, I mean, shit, he probably, you know what I mean? Probably couldn't. Probably couldn't. Ain't no telling shit. He got other shit going on.

46:23You know what I mean? Right. Ain't no telling what he paid him or said to him or anything. Yeah. So, you know what I mean? At the end of the day, it's business. You know what I mean? Yeah, but you got to, like, stick your neck out for your homies, right? Like, I mean, it's always that awkward situation where, like, if you're with a bunch of people and you try to go to the club and they're like not trying to let all your homies in and you got to make this decision of like am I supposed to just go up in here or am I supposed to just like stay solid to my friends and not go in here. And I feel like that's like a similar situation where it's like AB probably could have stuck his neck out and made sure that your whole experience was cool and he apparently didn't feel the need to.

47:05I don't know, man. Possibly because he's loaded. he's annihilated drunk he's sleeping till 6pm from what I've been hearing nah nah he don't sleep till 6 no hell nah but you know what I mean so there's a clip about AB who was mad at you because you brought a girl around that he used to was that awkward so I didn't bring her hold up hold on did you watch the whole clip yeah well I mean I might not have seen the end you never know when they're gonna end it

47:44who said they used to mess around I thought that was the idea I don't know we could watch it if you want yeah we gotta watch that let me see it um okay Sauce Nino um Adrian Broner girl I wish I had this on deck

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48:47I don't know. Maybe my problem is that I keep looking on shorts. No, you got to go. Instagram? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, you typed in Sosnino arrives in Atlanta. Arrives in Atlanta? on Instagram? Yeah. Okay. Sauce Nino arrives.

49:14So you got off the plane. Is this it?

49:24This is AB tripping on you. You tripping, cut. You tripping, bro. Nigga, that bitch don't get to hang around,

50:00What the is that though? Why does he hate the girl so much? I don't know. If my friend comes around with a girl that I already pipe, it's like whatever. I don't know if they messed around or not though. I don't know. Maybe she was one of the girls that put allegations on her. I don't know but she didn't know. Then all of a sudden his reaction is totally justified. Nah, I don't think. You don't seem like the type that would be like with your cousin's old work. You seem like you would be like anti that i'm about that i don't give a no no not me i don't know i don't sleep with none of the females my mess with really yeah now i feel like anybody who cool with me you got to know that's a possibility hell no that'd be cool um i mean one of the the best things in life has to be like banging your ops girl your ops ex nah hell no you won't do that you won't do war do battle with your dick nah I hear not sword fight metaphorically I feel that no I totally get it but also like man you might have to do that shit I don't know nah I hear not I think that shit started over there yeah

51:21the opposite doing that yeah you were worried that shit started over there banging your ops girl I can see that. So you ever had a conversation with Dean to kind of get past the weirdness of that? No. No reaching out? It feels like that should be easy if you and AB are cool like that. What's your relationship like with AB at this point? Nah, just with him yesterday. Nah, we cool. Okay. Yeah, I was with him yesterday. Do you think he's like... Do you want to do more streams with him? Is that part of your plan to push the streaming thing ahead? Possibly, but shit. I don't think I can. You know what I mean?

52:05Because of the Dean situation currently? Yeah, I'm right. Yeah. Man, I still feel like AB needs to put his neck out for you more.

52:13I don't know. I know you don't want to tweak on your famous cousin, but I think you should. Just get on him. Just be like, tell Dean to be cool with me or else. I don't know.

52:30I don't know. I mean, I mean, like I say, he's just business at the end of the day, shit. No, there's a business partner, I guess, so shit. How long would you say you've been out the streets, cleaned up your act, if you will? Long time. Long time. Couple years. The exact length of time of the Statue of Limitations? It's been a long time, man. A long time I ain't did nothing bad since I was a kid. Do you feel like the streets are dead? Absolutely. Why do you say that? Everybody telling on each other. Surveillance, I feel like, is the other big factor. Everybody snitching. Surveillance kind of, like, makes people tell on each other a lot more because there's just a lot more evidence that people know is going to fuck them over so that they end up telling.

53:23Surveillance? No. Just don't nobody want to go to jail. But like, all right, there's a shooting that took place in Long Beach that was at this like big burger chain opening. It was like Nipsey Hussle's brother opened this restaurant. And there was a shooting. Somebody died. We've all seen the videos. We've all seen the videos of the surveillance and everything. And it's like unbelievably obvious what happened. Now, are those dudes going to tell on each other? I mean, shit, probably. but they're going to tell each other largely because the surveillance video is going to be so damning that there's just like almost no point in everybody staying quiet about it you know i'm not saying that justifies it but that's like why i would be zero percent surprised when that happens because shit ain't even gonna try it yet we all seen the videos we all kind of know what happened is the people in custody for the shooting yeah a bunch of them well actually i feel like they didn't get arrested.

54:20My boy Flacco made a video saying they were going to get arrested and linking them to the people in this video. But then I don't think they actually got picked up. That's some federal shit, huh? Yeah, that's another reason why people are going to jail. YouTubers? Yeah, YouTubers make videos trying to be the police. That is true. Yeah, trying to be the FBI agents putting shit together. I mean, I forget who it was, but I was reading about how a murder got solved the other day and it was like the cops went on youtube searched the name of the guy who died found a whole youtube video breaking down tons of evidence about how the guy died and they based their investigation on that and it's like obviously once they start investigating they have infinitely more access to your phone records to your banking info all these different things that they can get access to that is way on another level that a youtuber wouldn't be able to have but in this case the youtuber 100 sparked off the investigation and he probably don't give a fuck because he's like a former gang member who who don't he's not on that anymore so to him he probably don't even care but it's crazy it's like it used to feel like a rumor when people would say like oh youtubers are getting people locked up well now there's just pretty clear-cut examples now this shit wreck for sure um okay so what's your game plan going forward is like streaming is that your primary thing you're not gonna like put music out or what yeah I'm gonna do a whole lot of shit for real for real okay but uh yeah I gotta focus on content for real for real you think that's the path I'm gonna lick I'm gonna lick I ain't gonna lie I do mad shit I do mad shit so they just about getting the cameraman and just filming the shit getting it all the way down packed for sure um if they want to follow you though your Sauce Nino on kick.

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