Sauce Walka’s Baby Mama Kiley on Sauce Abusing Her, Her Time with Drake & More

0:00No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And I feel like today we are doing the Lord's work, having a conversation that really needs to happen because you, Kylie, have a lot of information that I think that the world deserves to know. And I really appreciate you coming out here and doing this. Of course. Yeah. So, okay. Happy to be here. You're from where originally? Houston, Texas. Houston, Texas. Okay. And, I mean, when did you first meet Sauce Walker? I guess is probably the first question we should go to. I was pretty young. Honestly, I was scared of him. And then... Where'd you meet him? Through Instagram, mostly.

0:41He reached out to you or you hit him up? He reached out to a friend of mine. Okay. And he was reaching out to her for me, in a sense. He was like, hey, I want to talk to your friend? He was trying to really get at both of us, essentially. and then whenever he saw me in person he was like i want her and i was like i'm scared why were you scared um just his persona okay things that i've heard you'd never hung out with a rapper before no i was really young how young were you talking um i was freshly 18 oh yeah okay interesting um um and so how did he win you over um well essentially COVID happened um and then I saw him blowing up all over OnlyFans I didn't have any money I was broke I couldn't even pay my bills at the time during COVID and then I was like well let me just see what this is about and that's kind of how it all started and so was the origin was the origin of the relationship business oriented or were you guys seeing each other romantically um business mostly and so he said i want to be your only fans manager essentially that's how you want to put it yeah what did he call it um what he always calls it on instagram okay so he told you i want to be your pimp yeah and i knew what it was too when i got with him but was he saying that he wanted to just run your only fans or was he saying he also wanted to have you out doing dates and whatnot no he was wanting mostly on OnlyFans and I was working in the strip club too.

2:14Okay. So. Okay. And did he have, he had other girls that he was doing OnlyFans with already at that point? Yeah. Because I have seen videos of him on OnlyFans, which was kind of surprising during COVID to see that. Yeah. I think everyone was surprised. Okay. And, uh, what percentage was he taking from your OnlyFans? um 100 i would say and then he would give me some back to pay whatever bills i needed to pay or you know and how like how did you agree to that like that it just feels like you know when people hear about only fans managers taking 80 they're like horrified 100 sounds insane like in retrospect why would you agree to that um i was just young and dumb and i was just like if this is what i need to do right now this is what I need to do right now and see where it goes ride the wave you know okay so and that's just what I did and then he starts promoting you a lot and did you start to kind of blow up on there as far as you knew um yeah I definitely did okay he paid for a bbl in my boobs okay so yeah I definitely did and you were happy about this would you say you were happy about it at first oh yeah I think I was pleased with it okay at what point did you guys start like dating or does does it become that sort of thing um it was about a year into it okay when things started getting a little more serious and also that's when things got really bad okay so but had you guys already been like having sex on OnlyFans prior to that yeah after my or after my bbl okay so all right prior to my bbl i was just on only fans by myself and were you like developing feelings for him kind of the whole time or like how did that turn into an actual relationship i think so and i think he as well um you know we were spending a lot of time together constantly we live together so you know it happens naturally okay and so you said that like you the time that you got into the relationship was also when it started to get what abusive yeah okay mentally physically when emotionally how would you say that that kind of began um

4:39um honestly after i got my boobs done where things started going left and he was coming off drink and i was helping him sober up and taking care of him during his detox and then And one day he just woke up and snapped on me. What was him snapping on you like? Pinning me up against the wall and shingling me. Really? Yeah. And I mean, like, there's. At that point, I was already kind of too far deep. And, you know, like when someone abuses you, the only thing that really makes you feel better is that person. So it's not as easy as to just get up and leave and say, fuck it, whenever I've already invested all this time, money.

5:18and now I'm emotionally involved with you. It's not that easy to just. No, yeah. I think like a lot of people think that it would be easy for a woman to exit that kind of situation. And in reality, you know, he spent like a year kind of building up your confidence in him and like sort of infiltrating every part of your life. That's kind of like textbook abuser behavior, right? Right. So would you say that like that violence, like the actual physical abuse became a consistent thing like would it would it stop for periods of time or was it pretty consistent um it was i would say like physical would stop for periods of time depending on how angry he would get um but the emotional um of spiritually that never stopped really yeah from then on it was just like you're an ugly bitch you bitch i'm the one who did this for you and I'm the one who's this for you and you need me I don't need you it was constant every day wow do you think that that was like being done in like a sort of mastermind way of like this is how I'm gonna break her down yeah emotionally so that I can completely control her yeah he definitely 100 % he still thinks I'm his property really even though I haven't been with him since halfway through my pregnancy with our son wow so okay um but at at a certain point like did you try to distance yourself because like i feel like especially with him taking 100 of your money that sounds like really insane like that sounds like something that you probably would have kind of been mentioning like hey i don't necessarily think that this arrangement is fair like did you bring that to his attention and whatnot um yeah i think eventually as i started making a little bit more money and then I started our relationship grow um he would leave me if I made ten thousand dollars he would leave me with three you know to just do what I needed to do and have money to get my nails done and buy what I needed to buy and food and stuff like that but there were times where I had no money and I was begging for a hundred dollars so I could eat that day wow and i mean that's how a guy like that would control you i guess is like to make it so you don't have options right yeah he would put me in a position to where i had no other choice but to stay did he like separate you from your friends yeah i lost a lot of friends and family over it just because he wouldn't really like let you communicate with them or well he would um trash them and then you know just all the toxicness between him and i took a toll on my other relationships and eventually people were just like this really yeah damn so even your family like why would your family like how did that distance get created um all the toxicness and then all of course everything that they would see on the internet it wasn't a you know it's all over the place did you try to leave at certain points and how would he bring you back um well he would destroy my stuff or i remember one incident i pulled up with a moving truck at the house and he took a knife to my five thousand dollar couch that i bought and just would almost refuse me to leave wow so how much do you feel like uh this behavior was exaggerated by the fact that he you know he's pretty open about the fact that he's like really really into drinking lean and anybody who drinks lean they kind of have this like effect where maybe you're having a good time on friday night but then come saturday morning you're furious and acting out right i'm sure you got to experience that oh yeah on a day-to-day yeah it was for a while for a long time it was he would wake up sipping drink okay he would never put the cup down and it was really hard for him to put it down really yeah because he kind of talks about lean like it's this like gentleman's club like it's like a elite league yeah it's like elite league of players who drink lean or whatever and i think like i saw charleston saying this and it kind of mirrored what i was thinking when i heard that i was like no dude you're a junkie like what are you talking about sipping lean is you're sipping liquid heroin right you might as well put a needle on your arm Yeah.

9:46And I mean, I have done it. I understand how it's fun in small quantities, but to the point where you like have to do it to make it through the day, it becomes kind of scary. Yeah. And then I saw the withdrawals that it caused and he was down bad for two weeks and wouldn't couldn't leave the toilet because he was so sick. Really? Yeah. Just be shitting and throwing up face in the toilet. he just he would sleep on the bathroom floor it felt bad for him because it was awful i felt like i needed to take him to the hospital right because you posted a video of him where he's like kind of like this like he just sort of like just looks like a straight up like junkie like i don't feel bad using that word because that's like the only way i could describe it but there's a video on your instagram where he does not look well and you're kind of like messing with him you're like poking them yeah what was that video like when was that film um i think it was not too long ago okay honestly yeah um a couple months ago maybe and he would try to quid lean but he just like kept going back to it yeah really wow that's the um so at what point in all this do you get pregnant um i got pregnant in 2023 my son was born september 25th 2023 um and honestly when i got pregnant like i knew i was kind of fucked really now you're really stuck with him yeah yeah and i at that point i was kind of like well shit i have to see it through now and um yeah and I think from then forward I just grew up and got a better head on my shoulders and was like I can't deal with this with the child damn did you consider uh terminating the pregnancy or no um yeah I did a few times um but I didn't um I had never been pregnant before at that time never had a miscarriage or an abortion and to me it didn't feel right to do it so I didn't for sure and I don't regret doing it because I love my son for sure did uh how did he react to the news that you were pregnant he was happy about it and wanted you to keep it or yeah he was happy about it um it was something that we talked about previously in our relationship for a while um and then it happened so we decided to go through with it um but yeah he was happy but then about three months into my pregnancy he just up and disappeared really up until my due date month and you just didn't see him at all or no nope I didn't um maybe a few times he dropped in and out um but there was a time where I had to move my lease was up on the house that I was living in and I moved and he didn't even know where I was living um yeah but I also at the time I was dead broke could barely afford my own rent I would call him and ask me ask him to drop off money or to help me with this help me with that and he refused really so he's taking all your money you're pregnant with his child and he won't even do anything to help you get by like what what would he say like how would he suggest that you were able to just would ignore me he wouldn't even answer the phone yeah wow and i know his other baby mamas went through that as well really so you're in communication with some of his other baby mamas now no i do not speak to them whatsoever um i'm at odds with one of them for sure i'm not fond of her um even though i sympathize with her because she goes through the same things that i go through but she goes back just like you were doing um yeah more i think she's still with him is this the redhead one uh i forget what her instagram name is or whatever but yes okay because you yeah that's a lot to get but like okay I'll table that but like so do you have the baby and does he is he around for the baby being born or anything yeah he was um and I remember whenever I was in labor I told the hospital do not allow anyone to come up here unless I agree to it and he almost refused that to where I had to let him up.

14:20Really? Mm-hmm. My mom was there, and she was really upset about it. So upset that she ended up leaving the hospital so he could be there. Wow. And what do you think that he's doing when he's ignoring his pregnant girlfriend for months and months and months at a time? What is he out there doing? Whatever he wants to do, I don't know. I really couldn't even tell you. Working, rapping, spending time with other girls, whatever right traveling you know for sure just going on with his life like he doesn't have a pregnant girl at the house wow i'm sorry that must have been really hard to deal with it was yeah so then you have the baby and is he more supportive now that you've had the kid or um yeah he was the first month of my son's life uh he was probably with me every day and then things again went left on a very sharp left turn what happened and then i asked him i was like my rent is coming up you know can you i think my rent was 2400 um can you know can i have some money to pay my rent i freshly postpartum new newborn baby and he essentially refused and i was like okay well then i have to go to work if i have to go to the strip club that's what i have to do and I dropped off my son with his cousin and his cousin called me back and had me pull back up to where they were at and he had me jumped he had you jumped with your kid right there or yes so your kids his dad was there and so what like a bunch of girls just kind of jump out two of them Really?

16:12And he recorded it. It's on video. And really? But that video's never been released or anything? I've never seen the video, no. But I know he has it. So your baby's what age at this point? A month or so. And he has you jumped. But what did you do that made him feel like now is the time that you deserve to get jumped? Because I saw you post screenshots and stuff of him acknowledging that this happened. I don't know, probably because I don't let him speak to me or talk to me or let him do whatever he wants to do to me. And that's part of our issue. And that's why things, I think, escalate so fast and so quickly.

16:57And to the point that it does is because I'm also like, you know, and I talk back and you call me a bitch. I'm gonna call you a peon. And now we're at odds. and now you're mad. Right. And that's probably how it happened. That's how it always happens. Did you recognize the girls who were jumping you? Did I what? Did you recognize the girls who were jumping you? Yeah. These were just girls that were around him? His cousin. And then I think a girl also that was freshly around. I had never met her in person up until that point. Damn. So how badly were you injured? Not too badly. I have pictures of it.

17:39It was mostly just my head. I had some scratches and some bruising on my forehead, but that was really it. And he's just like overseeing this? Like what is he saying or like what does he say afterwards? Well, after that, I took my son obviously back and I went back home. And a couple days later, he was at my house banging on my door, begging me to take him back and be cool and offering me money. And, you know, it's just the same old bullshit. it always is wow and how long did you separate at that point because I mean that's got to be kind of hard to get over right yeah I think you know I did definitely take him back after that situation um and then I think we went to like a couple maybe a month or so a month and a half or so after that he took me to a courtside game to the Rockets and we you know he made up for it essentially i guess if that's what you want to call it if he had uh laid hands on you like repeatedly over the years why would he then feel the need to get you beat up by these girls like just to not get his hands dirty well because uh in my during my pregnancy i was so angry with him that i i exposed him also around that time that's when you first started posting about him and that is what really really triggered him you think yeah and then he i remember him telling me throughout my whole pregnancy the few times that he would talk to me and it was mostly arguments it wasn't anything lovey-dovey or anything like that he would mostly just scream at me and um tell me that he's not going to put his hands on me anymore he'll have other people do it right jeez and he has so that wasn't the only time that he got you set up um Yeah, he, I mean, set up, no, but had other people put their hands on me, yes, he's done that.

19:39But that was the first time he had me set up and probably the only time he's had me set up. But there's been other incidents where other people were around and he told them to do what they needed to do. Right. And they did. Damn. What was the worst time he ever put his hands on you, though? Like, how bad did that part of it get? um well probably the strangling that was pretty bad um I have photos of that also right um I almost passed out during that time and then probably the second time in Tampa Florida I flew out there to see him and I gave him some money and um not even three seconds after that me and him got into an argument and then he open hand slapped me in my face and I had to get stitches in my mouth wow it's like occurring to me how crazy this is as we're saying it that it feels like his fan base so like the number one type of people that are like not going to be sympathetic about this kind of thing but really I feel like he kind of deserves to be put in the same category as like a lot of other people who've been exposed for abuse over the years but yeah and that's you know like that's why i'm here is because i've dealt with it for so long i've been dealing with him since 2020 so it's just like this is my life that i live on a daily basis with him and now i'm trying to navigate co-parenting with him it's almost impossible and i'm like well why not just tell everybody else why not expose it it's i've already lived through it he's already done the worst to me so now coming to the internet and telling my truth and telling my story with him what are you going to do to me i've already done the worst i've already lived through it and i can do it again if i have to right all you have to do is just speak freely and kind of paints the picture for the world to see because i mean but he tries to cover up a lot of this stuff with like the whole pimp thing right like this is all kind of justified under this like pimp persona like how do you feel about that um i think it's stupid yeah i think it's ridiculous yeah and it's just what's the point you know if that's what you want to do then do it but you're not going to do it with me yeah because i mean like so many of the people that i've had on the podcast over the years are like people we talk about who kind of live by this like pimp code or whatever it becomes pretty obvious pretty quickly that like this is just like a front that you put on to justify all of this crazy fucked up behavior of like shit with like extremely young girls which you said you were freshly 18 so i guess it wasn't like breaking the law or whatever but who knows and then i mean i don't know what you know that's one thing i hear about these pips a lot is that like as far as making money you know they're not following the law in the first place so the age of consent is also probably not something that they're terribly concerned with or and now he think but now with the whole only fans thing when that became about it he essentially thought now it's like now i'm good because it's covered by only fans it's legal money we're doing it together you know i'm not sending you out with tricks we're at home doing what we normally do at home just on camera you know what's the point you know it's like it's different it's not the same but from your experience did was he doing the more traditional side of pimping as well yeah at the very beginning okay but then he kind of cooled off with that as only fans sort of took over um the digital pivot as they call it yeah and then i think also after i got like my surgeries and then he saw the change in me and how i guess in his eyes how much better i looked um that's when he really started was like you can't talk to anyone else you can't be around anyone else don't anyone else you're mine right you're see his mind right damn so um part of what you kind of exposed about him and everything was that you were saying that he was broke i mean like he presents himself as if he's like a multi-millionaire with tons of different businesses and everything like that but then you put a million dollars yeah and it's like i kind of have been suspicious about that because i'll see him say that he's got 20 dispensaries and he's like i got i just opened my third dispensary and i'm kind of watching online like how does that work so when you post like a screenshot of him having like three grand in the bank or i forget what it was like 15k total in the bank or some shit like that like he's it was 16 ,000 in auto loans.

24:24Oh, 3000 in the checking. Oh, shit. So from your perspective, when he says that he's got millions of dollars, and he's holding a huge tax of money and shit, like, how does that work? Honestly, I have no idea. That's something I can't really put together in my own head. And that screenshot is not I don't have access to his bank account. That screenshot is he sent it to me because I was threatening to put him on child support because he does nothing but maybe buy some shoes and clothes here and there. But yeah, he sent me that screenshot. And as far as all this cash, I have been, I don't know. Like I know whenever I was with him and we were together every day, I know a lot of his money came in cash through like rap features and music videos and Instagram promotion and things like that.

25:15But all this new stuff I have no idea about because I haven't been, with him i'm not in his everyday life um and then as far as the dispensaries go i really think he's just more of like a promoter for it right and then gets cut a check yeah i don't he i don't think he's the owners of them yeah i would assume for sure but uh that was one thing that like really stood out to me because at one point my boy remo tried to like put me and him on text to like talk out our issues or some shit like that and he just like i honestly didn't even look at it but he just like he had like dozens of screenshots on deck of like photos of bank accounts i saw those messages yeah oh you did yeah he sent them to me okay he was very upset about it yeah i didn't even really like look at it but like it was like all these screenshots of him having millions of dollars in the bank and all this shit and like i'm just like i don't know like i'm i'll be real i'm a multi-millionaire and i've never even considered sending people screenshots of my bank account or anything just because like i don't really like want to have to justify my existence on the basis of money or whatever you know that's just like so not how i would ever want to be out here behaving and most people with money they don't do that you know like why do i care if you know how much money i have in the bank it's none of your business yeah and that's not something i feel the need to prove right you know most millionaires or most people with money they don't care they're just gonna to show you and you're gonna see it right you don't have to brag about it and like i get why he has to do it because he's a rapper because it's like he's got it you know flex with chains and cash and whatever jewelry but like this was just a text with like me him and remo and he's like really concerned with me like knowing that he has money and i'm just like this does not change anything about how i feel about you or like it doesn't make me think you're like more of a big man or anything like that like i was just like i don't know that really like stood out to me i was like whoa he's insecure and so then very so insecure hits home yeah why like you don't think he's like as confident as he maybe lets on interesting no i don't so okay then there was a conversation okay well we gotta rewind the clock when did you first speak to drake um i met him back in 2024 on his birthday that he had in houston okay and you were just at the club or something um yeah it was like a private event well i was kind of open to the public or something and that's and then i was invited so i went and i brought a lot of my friends with me i think i was with eight or nine girls you know we're all bad bitches bbls look pretty look good and so it caused a lot of attention, I'm assuming, and he came up and introduced himself to all of us.

28:07Okay, and how long did it take before he figured out that you were Sauce Walker's baby mama? Because him and Sauce have been kind of trading words for really since the very beginning of Drake's career, which is kind of crazy. A lot of people are just realizing that now. I don't know, maybe fairly quickly. He figured it out? did that seem like that was of interest to him um maybe I guess I can't speak for him but yeah okay and so what do you how many times you say you and Drake hung out or like how did that kind of unfold um a few times you know okay it was we had a good run you know he's a great man appreciate him for everything and that's all i'm gonna really say about that okay and at some point he ends up getting you a car and prior let's go back to the birthday party my baby daddy went to the birthday party sauce was there yes okay and um he knew i was there he had his little minions running around my section keeping an eye on me and then from what i heard he was there for about five minutes and left because he was uncomfortable that I was there and I'm sure he knew what was about to go down oh shit wait what was gonna go down you know I'm sure he knew Drake was gonna talk to me and I was gonna do what I was gonna do and I'm sure he had a gut feeling about it and he didn't want to see it happen in person oh wow and uh yeah I could imagine that would be tough did he talk about drake a lot um yes um ever since my relationship with him and without which was two years ago you know ever since that happened almost every conversation i have about i have with him with my baby daddy he mentions drake in one way or another if i ask him and i'm like hey can you give me some money for splash so i can you know pay for his daycare this month um your child is named splash for the record splash yes okay um no call drake he can do it so he was really butthurt about that one huh yeah because 90 of our conflict at this moment is because of drake and i'm like that happened two years ago get over it like why are you so why do you have your nuts in a twist over this man so badly like do you want to go him yeah you know wow if that's what you want to do then you know because his whole persona he puts out there is like he's so so player that he couldn't possibly care about what another man has going on and it's like yeah from the outside looking in it seems like you're pretty tender over drizzy haven't had any kind of association with one of your baby mamas and mind you he drake has done more for me than my baby daddy has ever done since the moment i've met him so let's just make that very clear financially he's just been willing to financially and he just obviously treated me better just normal conversations never called me out my name my baby daddy i can't even get a hundred dollars out of you without pulling some teeth wow yeah because like that's one thing uh I had Chromaz on here a couple months ago and, you know, I brought up Drake and she just had absolutely nothing but good things to say about him.

31:45And that really stood out to me that like for being a bit of a playboy who's obviously been associated with a lot of girls over the years, you really don't hear any of them have anything bad to say about him. Yeah, I have nothing bad to say about him. He's a great human. Yeah. You know, if you have anything bad to say about him, you're just a hater. Wow. Yeah. yeah i mean i feel like he one way or another he has mastered the art of not leaving a girl unhappy which i think is a very useful thing because we all know what it's like when a girl's upset at the end of a relationship or at the end of a period of time speaking to somebody or whatever so i don't know what the f*** is secret sauce is in that regard but he definitely seems like he always like leaves like a pretty good impression on the girls he deals with yeah he does for sure for sure um so okay like when did he find out that you were spending time with drake like how did he knew almost immediately from the party okay yeah wow yeah and then i remember the next day i woke up to him sending me a text message saying i'm sorry and i love you let's you know make this work for splash and do what we need to do for splash and i just remember laughing at my phone like you're looking pathetic you're only doing this because you saw me at drake's party right that's it okay as far as like as a man as men how would you compare sauce to drake like who's more of a man or who's like the the better dude overall from your perspective I'll be 100 % hands down Drake why like if on a scale Drake would be up here and my baby daddy would be on the floor oh my god that's rough yeah and I hate to say it I wish I chose better yeah I wish I was a little smarter and not so naive you're so young too you know as you know a young female at that time but it is what it is and you know everyone makes mistakes I'm only human right so okay then there there was a clip where i was on the podcast with whack i think and i was speaking about sauce sending me all these deranged text messages and i was basically like i didn't say any details but i sort of said like listen drake told me a little bit of information about sauce and his baby mamas and let me just tell you there's some crazy shit going on like that's all i said i left it open-ended i didn't want to like really divulge any information and i didn't really think anybody would give a fuck about me saying that but that right there sent him into fucking orbit wow that's when everything it just from that moment forward things just i never heard the end of it the phone call i got after those text messages oh lordy lord what was it like just you're a f***ing drake you f***ing bitch they're f***ing laughing at me adam 22 it's just never ending right and i was like oh my god here we go and he just recently had a clip that came out online where he said like because you leaked like a phone call that was like right after that or whatever and he basically was like i wasn't mad at her for f***ing with Drake I was mad about the fact that Drake and Adam were pillow talking about me using information that was gained from you I don't know exactly what information that what that y 'all are talking about I never really spoke too much about my baby daddy with Drake and to be totally real Drake didn't really tell me that much crazy shit either our conversation our relationship was not based around him so your time spent with Drake was not spent talking about sauce walker but your time with sauce walker at that point became primarily about talking about drake jesus christ that's diabolical it is diabolical and he thinks my whole relationship with him was all about uh my baby daddy and it it was nothing about maybe we had one or two conversations about him you know but it was nothing like in depth or anything serious or i didn't give him any tea on my baby daddy or anything like that it was you know yeah i mean honestly if i had to like summarize the the gist of what drake told me about him it was basically like he don't got money like that and this whole like cool player persona is cap he's like a psycho he still calls me to this day asking me for money really yes and I'm like, dude, why?

36:37But you have control of your OnlyFans now, I would assume? Yeah, for sure. And all of my money. And mind you, I have grown and evolved and I'm so much better now that I'm not in his life. And he sees that and he calls me. He's like, hey, can I get$30 ,000? And I'm like, for what, dude? Go buy some diapers. $30 ,000? yeah what like why would he need to borrow 30 000 that's what i say what the i thought you have 22 million dollars yeah and he's like taking pictures with like looks like many hundreds of thousands or like a million dollars in cash and shit which is kind of weird like why do you have a million dollars in cash i don't know if like the irs would take interest in that or anything but no i don't know but um i hope so you would like to see him get audited he needs to damn i don't want to like speak that into existence but they do they do like a hotline where you like tell the irs to investigate people and they'll like reward you oh really i don't know it's just an idea i wouldn't do that but i'll let someone else handle that yeah i wouldn't do that but uh damn so okay because in that call too he says i will get drake's car shot up that was kind of surprising to me because that's like a whole different level like damn you like well that's how he speaks to me on a daily basis just the constant threats of violence constant threats whether he follows through with them or doesn't but it's constant threats constant intimidation and i'm like there's me i could there's nothing i can do to a man you know like i could slap you maybe ow that hurts but i can't hurt you the way you can hurt me so yeah i'm scared yeah i'm gonna okay i'm gonna back down and be quiet and do what you want but yeah that's constant i don't think he would actually do anything to drake because drake moves like the president of the united states you can't get through to him right you know like even if you wanted to that's what i was thinking it's kind of funny about the idea of shooting of drake's car is like well if anybody's got a bulletproof whip and not to mention like a bunch of security around him and all this other shit like let's be serious like you can't get through to him he has his security is like donald trump's security let's be for real yeah did you hear the story about like sauce pulling up on drake while drake was like out with a girl yeah i think that was like in 2007 so that wasn't you oh this is back in the day yeah oh okay okay because because when act told that story i was like eight years old yeah oh okay because act told that story and he said that like drake didn't have security with him too so i guess that would make sense like very early in his career but yeah i don't think drake wasn't on in 2007 i don't think i don't think he was like famous until maybe 2008 or something but all right that period of time i think it was that period of time i think yeah like 2007 um and yeah i did hear about that situation drake no security in 2008 or 9 would make sense believable i guess yeah he's just kind of getting started but damn so that that's insane to think that it goes back that far yeah and honestly i think the whole beef from my whole understanding and my perspective um is i think he was just really mad that drake didn't give him a feature and then from also my understanding is drake never said no to the feature it's just he wasn't going to do it on on sauce walk his time right and then got mad whenever he didn't get it whenever he wanted it on the song that he wanted it on and pulled up on him and did whatever he did and then now i think at that point drake is like fuck you dude right i'm not giving you shit now yeah i mean anytime you're dealing with somebody who's like important being pulled in a million different directions etc like when i talk to drake it's like wow i think it's cool that you're even like that you even trust me to even tell me anything that you got going on or whatever i'm not like you know vying for like oh you gotta give me a look like let me let me do this like help me out in this way or whatever it's like if you're gonna you know give me any kind of opportunity or whatever that's great but i'm not gonna be being thirsty and rushing it or asking for it or whatever i mean look at look at ak was not glazing standing being a huge fan of drake for like you know 10 plus years and drake eventually you know like flew him out took him out to eat all this kind of stuff whatever like gave him like a moment that obviously was like hugely advantageous to act's career but probably that wouldn't have happened if act was like being thirsty and like you know begging him for a look you know and also my baby daddy just i feel like he has such a point to prove that he's this big tough guy and i felt like that's what he was trying to do to drake in that moment by pulling up on him and trying to intimidate him and i don't think drake is the type of guy to get intimidated right you know i don't think you can punk him into doing what you want him to do yeah because he doesn't even give that i think sauce like it's so important to him that he be like the toughest dude the richest dude etc and then when he's faced with like his baby mama spending time with a dude who without question has more money than you and you can't do anything physical to him or whatever he's just kind of left like floundering yeah and then my whole thing is is like if he quote unquote sent me like he said he did right why are you why is your ass tight about a car that he bought me right why are you so upset about it wouldn't you be happy like woohoo we just got a free may back right because that's how he tries to paint it is like look i sent my girls to get this money and these possessions out of drake and then i'm spending that money or that i'm driving these cars etc which like from a pimp perspective i guess that would be admirable but obviously obviously that's like the only thing that he can say and then when we hear the phone calls i think you like the bubble pops and you realize like oh that's absolutely not what happened right yeah it's not what happened at all he was very intimidated by it i think and upset because mind you my baby daddy has never bought me a car um honestly i've probably gone through three or four cars dealing with him because he destroyed every single last one of them he'll just like your car up when he's angry yeah wow yeah don't get me wrong i got him back a few times i'm not perfect okay i'm not here to claim that i am but yeah for sure right because that's another thing that you posted is that the girl that he's with now the redhead chick i forget her name but she's like a white girl with red hair redhead the sweetheart or some shit is her instagram you posted photos of her that she posted on instagram oh so she did post those before where he had like beaten her up or got her jumped as well was that eye-opening for you to realize like oh shit this is just what he's doing no because i knew that's what he was doing i'm i mean i can't be the only one going through it you know and you know i just knew i already knew i've dealt with it and she's been around longer than I was right so and the few times me and her have been together in you know person and when we were trying to get along because a lot of times he would pin us up against each other uh she does this and you do this and she does this and she does this and it's was a lot of he would make us almost be in competition with each other um so the few times that we did try to get along and get together in person we you know exchanged a lot of stories with one another really yeah anything stand out about what she's been through i'm not gonna speak on her story that's for her to tell and if she wants to that's on her but i'm not gonna speak on her i can only speak about myself but yeah she a lot of similar things because she hit me up a couple times and not like all right she hit me up i think to like tell me shit about him but it like i wasn't sure because i know that he like uses his girl's instagrams to try to get people set up and shit um no so i feel like because because she like hit me up and then i was like yo what up she was like kind of saying she wanted to do an interview and then i was just like what up and then she like stop responding and i'm like oh okay he got back cool with her um you know he's never had any access to my instagram ever oh okay never had a password to my phone that i know of you know um but i've never given him any so i could almost guarantee you that was her wow yeah that's interesting he's never in the whole i i messaged him on her dms it's a lie he's never and me and drake didn't even message through dms because i met him in person and i gave him my phone number so again a lie so you still have the whip that drake gave you or no no not anymore because my baby daddy absolutely destroyed it that's like the ultimate car you got to destroy as if it was coming from him huh yeah oh man that's crazy sorry my wig is itching no that's good you know just had to make sure it's not coming off or anything for sure um okay and so then like yeah what had to happen that you decided like and i'm just putting all this shit out there on front street like when was the last time you actually spent time with him um recently um because he always says you know mind you I don't really send my child over to him too often um for good reason and the few times that I do it's always some type of drama at the end of it or the beginning of it but this last month I was first his parents called me and was like you know y 'all need to figure something out and y 'all need to get along for the baby and so we want to see the baby and we want him to know his dad and know this side of the family and I was like I agree and I called him and I was like you know let's just let's try to put our differences to the side and let's try to make this work and let's just try to get along and he was like okay so I sent Splash over there for the month um in May it was Mother's Day it was my birthday and I was like you know you know take him if you want to see him take him and let's just see how this goes and I was in Hawaii for nine days for my birthday and the day that i left mind you everything was great um up until this point i was literally packing my bags headed to the airport back to houston and he called me and he wanted to flex on me that he got his strip club back splash house is it open again because i heard it got shut down like right after it opened it will be shut down in a couple months just give him sometime and um why did he shut down the first time i i don't think he could afford it or i don't think it was making money oh yeah okay because i know a few of my friends went in there just like to you know party after hours and they went over there and they were like girl it was he was in there throwing his own money trying to make it look like it was something oh wow yeah and i was like huh pathetic a few people sent me pictures of like the doors being like chained closed and this was like a couple weeks or like a month or two after it opened and i was like that's weird yeah two seconds of fame um ouch um but okay so then what happened like while he's got your kid and you're in hawaii yeah so he called me and he wanted to flex on me and oh i got my strip club back your baby daddy's the biggest in houston i'm the richest in houston who nobody can shit on me now that's basically the gif of the phone call was is he wanted to flex on me and then his other baby mama called him and he started he flipped the script on me almost immediately and started screaming at me you're you bitch you this that da da da da da and she was basically um you know kind of exposing him on the phone like well you do this and you buy three snow bags and you know basically going against everything that he says he is you're tricking right and i was like oh so you are a trick and then that's what really set him off and then from then it was just down no really yeah and then yeah but you must have been tripping out because you're in hawaii and he's got your kid and you're like flipping out obviously about like him potentially being in an unsafe situation yeah um there's just so much stuff it's crazy honestly mind-blowing um and he was like basically and i was like well if you have all this money to trick to trick on girls you have enough money to give your son and i'm not hurting for money you know like i can afford my son no problem um it's just the fact that you don't pitch in and you don't do anything and i and it's expected for me to to pay for everything right the whole month he was with his son i um this last month his assistant was calling me asking me to send groceries to the house really call call walk he's got it like why are you asking me for 200 for some groceries yeah and i have the receipts on that too like even if you're watching this skeptically and you feel like you know maybe the whole pimp thing is cool or whatever it's like i don't think anybody should be defending men who don't take care of their kids yeah you know i just don't think i think like as rap fans as americans as human beings that is just like the number one thing that we got to like really dismiss and talk down upon because it's just disgusting and i think if i'm not mistaken and the text messages that he was sending to you he was like drake pays my kids bills is that a flex to you albert yeah does that make you feel good that's kind of embarrassing really embarrassing yeah another man is taking care of your baby mama because you're incapable of doing it oh yeah that's rough god damn um so i mean what what is the follow up been like is he still hitting you up because over the last few days is like kind of when a lot of people really realized what was going on with this whole thing like the the drake thing the the baby mama drama as he titled his new song which i guess i'll promote it's hilarious honestly i laughed so hard i thought it was so funny yeah um no he hasn't hit me up i don't think he will okay no he hasn't i'm sure he's probably afraid to right damn what do you think he's gonna say when realizes that you did this interview oh he's gonna be fucking livid yeah i find it hilarious from your experience though like is he on some tough shit like is he really out here like hurting people being a mob boss or whatever personally i've never seen him put his hands on anyone other than me really so i can't really tell you that i've never seen him fight another man um yeah i've never seen it wow i've never witnessed it so that's crazy yeah i've heard him talk about it but i've never seen it i remember you like wanted to fight him or something and he just went ghost and never even followed through with it right right yeah because i mean listen like i don't talk about myself as a fighter or whatever but my whole thing with him is that like he a little dude you know a little boo boo boo i mean he's just like a little guy yeah sauce la boo boo i was running with that for a little while there yeah i mean i just feel bad for like a lot of the uh the sauce bread room because i i've hung out with the rizzo rizzo's of the world and all these guys over the years and like i f*** with them but then i like i feel like they actually like a lot of the artists who i think have signed to them over the years kind of end up in a similar position to the girls where like they get sold the world they're convinced that this is going to be this really beneficial situation to be in and then nothing ever comes from it right uh yeah so i remember one time he bought one of his artists a car um a mercedes like s550 or something like that and they are they were so broke that they couldn't even afford the gas in the car wow they were calling other people on tss like hey can i borrow 20 bucks i can get some gas wow and you're driving a 50 60 000 car yeah yeah that's uh it's crazy yeah it's embarrassing get him a fucking texaco gift card to go with the whip gotta do it right man um damn so like all right you're are you just like focused on moving on um i know you like keep exposing him and everything but it feels like you know at a certain point you're just trying to figure out what life is without this guy sort of getting in the way of everything right yeah i mean i would love to be able to co-parent i would love for my son to be with his dad and know his dad but it's it's impossible and then also it's just i don't trust what goes on over there i know people like to have their comments on me i'm a sex worker and i'm this and i'm that but you know that's just my work life and that's what y 'all see on the internet my private life is nothing like what y 'all see on the internet you know i have a very peaceful life when you say sex worker you're like doing only fans it's not only fans yeah like and people want to blame me for twerking on the internet but that's not who i am in real life you know that's just what i do for work right because i seen him uh i seen you saying that when he does have your kids that or your kid that he'll like be out till four in the morning like getting totally fried off lane and smoking blunts all around him and shit like that that you don't appreciate yeah and when splash house was open he was had my son at splash house in the strip club and i'm like what the are you doing and my son was way younger yeah what is he he's five maybe now no he's two he's two right now two years old he'll be three in september yeah a one-year-old in a strip club oh lord and whenever i found that out i was like are you kidding you know i'm like he just he's just the head the the thought process yeah it's diabolical to me it doesn't even make any sense i'm like whenever you die your brain needs to be studied yeah to go you know and to show some in textbooks or something because it's it doesn't make any sense no that's insane and his parents enable him so his parents especially his dad yeah really yeah they just sort of don't tell him that he's up no nope interesting his stepmom is a great lady but his dad is an enabler he in his eyes he does nothing wrong hmm i gotta ask this was there any other rappers that were like his ops or whatever that he would always be uh talking about because i did notice that the beef with him and honeycomb braise he seemed like it got kind of patched up real quick like he didn't seem like he really wanted to push that one um as far as all that kind of stuff goes i don't really keep up with that um yeah i don't really know i can't really speak too much on that because i don't i stay out of that kind of stuff and i don't ask him about it okay um but i don't think he would ever be brave enough to really take it to an extent like that okay because i'm sure he would be scared to get embarrassed if someone actually beats him if that makes sense interesting yeah i mean he didn't want five may so yeah i don't think he would ever really get in the ring if he does i would be really surprised yeah yeah it's a shame yeah it's embarrassing so like what would be your advice to girls out there who were being you know uh uh preyed upon by like him or somebody like him um i would just i would first if you come in contact with someone look at the red flags don't ignore the red flags go with your instincts you know when someone is not genuine you can feel it you can see it in their eyes um as hard as it might be the first time they intimidate you or put their hands on you or abuse you leave um cut off contacts and keep a stash of money to yourself somewhere you don't give a hundred percent of your only fans earnings to a dude yeah keep a stash of emergency money and you know the first time that they put their hands on you call the police make a police report get a restraining order then they won't you know men like that they're gonna be scared to come back around yeah because you seem like you're moving kind of cautiously because even when i was asking you in the dms like where you were staying you were being kind of tight lipped about it like you seem like you've kind of gone real out of your way to remove yourself from anything that might be involved in the situation um yeah i don't i'm you know he's also in houston as well um he's has obviously a bigger name than i do um i'm obviously going against him um i'm obviously exposing him that yeah he's had people come after me before why wouldn't he do it again um so yeah my location at the moment is private no one knows where i'm at for sure well i mean i just want to say that i appreciate you sharing your story and i think it's important because like a lot of girls might get kind of seduced into thinking that this sort of dude is the kind of guy that they want to try to build something with and in reality i think you know it's right what you think it is yeah you got to be more you know just be and you can't put the blame on a girl who falls into this sort of thing because they get sold a dream especially when they're young and they might think that it's something that it isn't but I think you know you sharing your story is gonna embolden a lot of girls out there I guess maybe to you know have a little bit of self-respect that they might not otherwise have and realize that this is like a an archetype this is a type of dude who you got to be careful around and also I know I'm not alone in this type of situation.

59:39I know there's a million other girls going through the same thing right now. Even if they're not a pimp, they're just an aggressive man in general. Right. You know, that they can't get away from, that, you know, you're just not the only one ever. You know, I sympathize and I get it. And, you know, toxic situations. I hope everyone gets out of those. Definitely. So, you got any plans that we should know about for the future or anything that you got that you're working on? I have a few things I'm thinking about that I'm trying to get started at the moment. But yeah, I mean, I'm just really trying to focus on my son and getting my life together and, you know, moving forward and trying to do what's best for me and staying away from him.

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