In short
Brickman/Section 8 Baby (from the Inland Empire) discusses growing up in subsidized “Section 8” conditions, moving around the IE, his path into hustling and music, getting arrested in 2020, and how his rap career took off while he was incarcerated. He also talks about relationships, drug/gun rumors, and his creative approach (off-the-neck punching in, short-form content).
Guest backgrounds
Brickman (aka Section 8 Baby) is an Inland Empire rapper from Ontario/L.A. County areas, raised amid a father figure serving a life sentence (locked up since 2001). He says he grew up with “thugging” after moving from La Puente to Victorville, later living in places like San Bernardino. He released his first tape in 2024, then was booked/locked up for about two years.
Key claims
He says his persona is consistently positive; he “grew out” of envy/stealing mindsets; his 2020 case involved pistols/driving without a license earlier, and later “two pistol cases” plus “some work” and “bricks/holes” (he denies a “studio” rumor). He claims he’s now strictly music (“Section 8 pure rapping”), and his breakthrough came from the “Brickman” song and a freestyle video.
Notable examples
Mentions Scarface and Paid in Full as influences; recalls people warning him about San Bernardino after he posted a clip; cites “Feet Tender”/“Brickman” as viral moments; describes a $10,000 baby shower at a Vegas/Versace-level venue; names inspirations like Sugar Free, Draco, Rio, and others; says he wants collabs with “New Dallas” artists and up-north Oakland/SF rappers.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGood Vibes and Energy
0:45 to 2:30
Discussion about maintaining a positive mindset and good energy.
“You got a good vibe, a good energy for the most part.”
Growing Up in the IE
2:30 to 4:40
The guest shares their upbringing in the Inland Empire and family background.
“Yep, that's like a real young age, for real.”
Life Experiences and Challenges
4:40 to 7:10
The guest discusses their experiences of moving around and the challenges faced.
“I mean, I don't like getting in trouble, but I mean, as far as like dippling and dabbling, I've always been dippling and dabbing.”
Neighborhood Dynamics
7:10 to 9:50
Insights into the dynamics and dangers of living in San Bernardino.
“Me and bro might've did some things to get us from here to there a little quicker than usual that I want to speak about.”
Criminal Life and Reflection
9:50 to 12:20
Reflecting on past criminal activities and the impact of family legacy.
Hope for Rekindling Relationships
12:20 to 14:01
Discussion on rekindling family relationships and breaking generational curses.
“I, like, to be real with you, bro, I did not grow up on some rapping shit.”
Discovering Unique Rap Styles
14:01 to 17:06
Learn about the distinctive rap styles that stand out in the music scene.
The Influence of Draco and Creativity
17:07 to 19:18
Explore how Draco's influence shapes creative approaches in rap.
“I'm just making it fun, but at the same time, it's like, before the rap probably boomed because I'm really out here, people know me for a certain type of, you feel me?”
Courage and Identity in the IE
19:19 to 22:18
Understand the challenges of maintaining individuality in a gang culture.
“You don't know what else he's doing, but you feel like he probably doing something on the side.”
Navigating Substance Use and Lifestyle Choices
22:19 to 24:21
Discuss the complexities of substance use and lifestyle in the rap scene.
“They just always be lying That nigga I only rap about hoes And bricks And this and that And this and that That's all I know That's all I know Nigga I'm trying to say I'm trying to get in this rap shit.”
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Legal Troubles and Consequences
24:22 to 28:00
Hear firsthand accounts of legal issues and the impact on life and career.
“Like, and I'm popping it and should probably been a little more humble.”
Understanding Drug Charges and Consequences
28:00 to 29:59
Learn about the implications and realities of drug charges, especially for first-time offenders.
“What you think you're going to do life for some coke?”
Life in Vegas and Hustling Stories
30:00 to 30:58
Listen to personal stories about hustling in Vegas and the challenges faced.
“And that's why they won't give you a super stiff sentence your first time, which I'm like, okay, you feel me?”
Viral Baby Shower and Maternity Photos
30:59 to 32:26
Explore the discussion around a viral baby shower and the cultural implications of maternity photos.
“But I had it at the time, so it didn't really matter.”
The Role of Early Interviews in Music Careers
32:27 to 34:22
Understand the significance of early interviews for artists and how they can impact their careers.
“I'm like, I'm going to be older and looking back at this like, son, look at this.”
Collaboration Aspirations in the Music Industry
34:23 to 37:06
Discover the artist’s thoughts on potential collaborations and desired musical partnerships.
“I think this potentially is one of those.”
Creative Process and Writing Techniques
37:07 to 39:09
Delve into the artist's creative process and how they approach writing music.
“You're like, all right, I'm locked up right now.”
Reflections on Artistic Identity and Influences
39:10 to 42:00
Hear reflections on the artist's identity, influences, and their relationship with other artists.
“You know, so it's like, it's one, there's a difference between actually doing it and like, kind of saying that you would do it.”
Gucci Mane's Versus Impact
42:00 to 43:12
Discussion about Gucci Mane's performance in a versus battle and its reception.
“more popular than him for a while and it felt like he got a lot of backlash from them falling out.”
Section 8 Collective Insights
43:12 to 44:16
Exploration of the Section 8 collective and the dynamics within it.
“after that, it's the image of what Gucci was to us and all that.”
Street Life and Relationships
44:16 to 46:00
A candid discussion on how street life influences personal relationships.
“We got a few people I think that you'd work good with, for sure.”
Modern Pimping and Its Challenges
46:00 to 47:40
Exploration of the evolution of pimping in a digital age and its implications.
“You need to do it properly, the right way.”
AI's Impact on Music Creation
47:40 to 50:00
Discussion about the influence of AI technology on music production and creativity.
“But I'm saying, when people talk about it, it make me think, damn, is that what's going on?”
OnlyFans and the New Economy
50:00 to 51:44
Insights into the economics of OnlyFans and its effect on traditional sex work.
“If he come out in five months to say, hey, that was AI.”
Artist's Career Progression
51:44 to 54:20
Discussion about an artist's career aspirations and the importance of hard work.
“Nigga, they not trying to go on OnlyFans.”
Cultural Diversity in Music
54:20 to 56:00
Exploration of cultural diversity and its impact on the artist's music and audience.
“What do you feel like you need to do to get to the next level?”
The Value of Diversity
56:00 to 56:46
Discussion about the importance of diversity and inclusivity in society.
“But was there, at a certain point, do you feel like the Mexicans were like, damn, like, I wish you rocked with us more or some shit like that?”
Exploring Native American Roots
56:46 to 57:36
Conversation about personal heritage and the implications of DNA testing.
“Do you know what type of Native American you are?”
Life on the Reservation
57:36 to 58:30
Insight into the dynamics and activities within Native American reservations.
“The only reason I was suggesting for you is because you might have some casino money coming to you, my guy.”
Promoting Section 8 Baby
58:30 to 59:19
Encouragement to follow Section 8 Baby on social media and streaming platforms.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. I'm in here with my man Lush One today. And this is an interview with, I believe, one of the biggest talents coming out of L.A. right now. I think you're going to do some serious damage as soon as the world really figures out what you got going on. Section 8, baby, in the building. Section 8, baby, man. I appreciate it. Hell yeah, man. How you doing? Brick man, brick man. I'm doing good, man. I'm feeling great, OB. You feel me? I'm always in a good mood. You feel me? Part of my persona. Oh, yeah? On me. You're kind of merry. I'm like, Mary? No, like Mary.
0:31Oh, like jolly? M-E-R-R-Y, like you're just kind of jolly? I mean, I wouldn't say jolly because then I don't want to be known as a jolly person. For sure. I guess if that's a preference that works, then I might be a jolly person. You got a good vibe, a good energy for the most part. You have a lot of bad days or it's mostly good? Shoot, I don't really ever consider none of a bad day, you know? If it's a problem, it's a lesson at the end of the day, you know? There it is. Nothing really. It's never really a bad day. it gotta be a lot of going on for it to be a bad day like you gotta be looking at damn near life for it to be a bad day I ain't gonna lie hey life be life in some times life be life he just went through a breakup so life has life to him recently I ain't gonna lie but the bounce back being critical the bounce back hang out with the section 8 squad man you gonna have hella ass you feel me you gotta hang out with the MacArthur Parks scene yeah you gotta pop up pop up in the section you already know it's good find out who got the most junkies and the most babes oh yeah no like either this dude's gonna leave a multi-millionaire or with like several new indictments so i don't know damn that has been a pattern over there yeah let's just go with the first choice man let's just go with the first choice for me for sure all right so give us uh the rundown of like where you're from and everything okay so section i maybe grew up in a lot of like you know i'm from i'm ontario california because i went to high school and i did my last year of middle school out there so gotta represent as far as the inland empire i'm pretty much everywhere in the inland empire growing up i grew up in la cuente you feel me uh shit at a young age my pops uh ended up getting a life sentence you feel me so we moved out of there we moved to like uh victorville you feel what i'm saying so that was like when you know a young age so he's been down since 2001 you feel me so i've been moving around everywhere so that's just pretty much you feel me that so I moved from Victorville to, shit, I went from San Gabriel Valley to Victorville to Ontario to, you feel me, staying in that area.
2:29That was when you were real young, like when your parents were just moving around for work or whatever? Yep, that's like a real young age, for real. But as I progressed older, I was just in the inland. Was Pops a gang member and all that? Oh, yeah, for sure. He from over there? Yep, yep, yep. That's right. That's right, Free Pops, straight up. So were you raised in a traditional Chicano household? I mean, as far as being Hispanic, I mean, I guess growing up is always kind of somewhat traditional. You feel what I'm saying? But growing up, that situation was out. After I moved out of the area with moms and shit like that, it was just thugging.
3:09You feel me? Just to be real. You feel me? Well, the IE is super diverse. Super diverse. And that's amazing. You feel me? Yeah, I love it. Yeah, like you named all those different places you lived. Like, did you kind of experience the whole range from, like, sort of more nice places to, like, really grimy, treacherous places? I guess it's always been kind of, like, quote, unquote, like, treacherous, I guess. Because, you know, growing up is the normal issues. You feel what I'm saying? Somebody robbing somebody. Somebody, you feel me, sell dope. Somebody in the family do this. Somebody do that.
3:39So it's like as far as, like, treacherous, it was kind of like, yeah, normal. You feel me? I guess, yeah, you feel me? But shit, going out of this situation get better. What's the grimiest place you ever lived? The grimiest place I ever lived? Probably San Bernardino. I done stayed in some houses. Nigga, you ain't even supposed to be there, bro. But it's just been abandoned so long, man. You might as well just post up. You feel me? I've always got the sense in San Bernardino that if you go missing, they might not even go looking for you for a fat minute. No, yeah. You got to remember, as the inland and the hoe, it's a lot of places that you're going to get killed on accident.
4:14But in San Bernardino, you liable to run into some you know what I'm saying like yeah on me so as far as like Inland Empire places San Bernardino got it for sure I remember the first time I went to the Dino was with like a bunch of BMX dudes back in the day on a road trip and we went to like a random weed shop off the highway and then I like posted a clip where you could like see where I was at and all of a sudden my DMs are just flooded with people being like what are you doing in San Bernardino couldn't believe it and were really like warning me like that is not a good place to be leave because you know the people online they're gonna they do they search they're gonna tell you exactly where you at you're gonna be like what the like and they just seen some in the background so they probably like Adam you right here right here right here you're gonna be like uh yeah let's move from this I think I posted like the world's oldest McDonald's or something they got some like McDonald's that's like it looks super up and like old I can't remember but um alright so uh when you start getting in trouble or like where were you at when I started to become part of your life?
5:15I mean, I don't like getting in trouble, but I mean, as far as like dippling and dabbling, I've always been dippling and dabbing. You feel me? I'm, you know, a God-fearing man first, but I used to say I was a God-fearing drug dealer, but so I guess, I don't know. Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how you got to the bricks because there's a lot of bricks being chopped up in your music. He starts with the nines. Yeah, but he must have had a lot of bricks. Bricks are left and right. Man, we trying to live like Scarface, man. Like we grew up watching like Scarface and paid in full and like that.
5:45So it's like, you know, coming from where we from, it's like, that's like really like up to say, but that's really to go. Like we trying to be the ones with this and that, this and that now strictly music. You feel me? But, you know, I guess what you're asking, like how I get from there to there. I mean, let's do like the bare bones, like first getting into sound drugs. I mean, so, so growing up, I got like a lot of uncles that got they popping off. You feel what I'm saying? So it's always been around. I ain't going to lie. Like, I ain't really like, I wasn't really like a trapping type person growing up.
6:18Like, I was more of on like, let's come up on somebody. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Like, or like on some, I ain't going to lie. You feel me? Might go, you know, make plans with somebody and go unlock the back door and act like we finna go somewhere and we never go there. And they get, and they come back and they get all that shit on. But as soon as, as soon as.
6:41But like, I had to grow out of that though. Like I had to grow out of that like super fast. You feel me? Cause it's an ugly spirit. Like I don't like looking at people. Like I used to look at people and be like, damn, like I deserve that. Like it ain't nothing wrong with feeling like you deserve something cause you do. You feel me feel like you're capable of doing something in life here, but don't look at the next man and be like, oh, I think what he got is mine. I feel like I should be there. Like that's kind of like, I had to grow out of that. So once I got out of there, being like, that's my shit.
7:06And then I started, you know, doing the little hustles and getting there. Mind you, we might've skipped a couple rows. Me and bro might've did some things to get us from here to there a little quicker than usual that I want to speak about. But you feel me? Other than that, we was just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And I think off presentation, off who I be around, it just jump in the game quickly. You feel me? I started, my connections was like easier because I got this connection. I'm fucked with these people, these people, these people. And you didn't make any dumbass moves. You didn't like.
7:33Yeah. exactly like you feel me like i was kind of already laced up like even this last little situation i mean it was just it was i was more on some like not like no slap on the wrist but you feel me i ain't had to go through an issue where it's like you feel me where it's like damn but you took it on the chin like yeah i was just moving sloppy on my part you feel me i mean definitely we're Don't get into that. You feel me? So when did you first get locked up? My first time I got locked up when I was younger. Just pistols and driving around without a license at a young age. You feel me? Probably like 17.
8:12You feel me? Okay. Like around those years. But after that, I was pretty smooth. And then I got booked again. But shit, the drugs and the guns wasn't really the problem. You feel me? Until they started adding up more. You know what I'm saying? Was it like, I mean, being like, obviously the son of someone that's a prestigious guy from... So, like, even speaking upon that, right? Like, to be real with you, I don't even know my... You feel me? My father figure like that. And it's not until recently I started even reaching back on some shit like that. You feel what I'm saying? Because they'd never been around.
8:46Like, mind you, that was like, you feel me? At a young age. Right, right. He wasn't around because he got locked up, but he wasn't around before that as well. I mean, I was a kid, so I don't remember. Okay, so this is from when you were, like, really young. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he got hit with a crazy sentence? Yeah. Long story short, he did some shit that got him life. You feel what I'm saying? You already know what type of shit you got to do to get life. But the new laws and shit like that, it's been, what, 26 years, bro, been down? Damn, so you got hope that he might be able to get out?
9:16Oh, no, he getting out. Oh, really? A couple months. I mean. A couple months? Ooh, let's go. So are you planning on, like, really trying to fully rekindle the relationship and everything? Well, I guess you never really had it in the first place. Yeah, I mean, I don't got no animosity toward anybody. Like, I got kids too. You feel me? So it's like, it was like, I was just thinking back, like, damn, like, even being in the county or whatever, like, I'm like, damn, I want to be around my son. I feel f***ed up. And then my grandma, she's like, damn, you're doing the same thing. You're positive. I'm like, thinking about it.
9:42I'm like, damn. So how I miss my son, this nigga might have missed me the same type of way this whole time. I'm like, damn. I mean, it's pretty obvious that, like, anybody would in that scenario, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. And you missed a lot of the important, you know, like I was just somebody said to me the other day, like you got to think like as a dad, think about the role that you have in your kid's life where to your kid, every little thing that you can do, like the fact that you can think of a joke off the top of your head that actually makes the whole room laugh or the fact that you can throw a ball or that you can drive a car or ride a bike or whatever, like to your kid, you are a superhero to them because they don't know how to do.
10:20and meanwhile from their perspective you literally know how to do everything on earth and you kind of miss that but like does that make you want to like rekindle that to a certain not rekindle it because yeah like it's crazy because you don't really know like i ain't gonna lie though like shit like that kind of regular though you feel me like i preach like section eight babies is like a foundation like you feel i'm saying like we speak for the people that came up the same way mom not having no money dad not around like you feel what i'm saying so we kind of like trying to if we we come from the same shit but we're also trying to break a generational curse as well like you feel me so rekindling is for sure like that's at the end of the day it's like of course i want to have that relationship so that that's dope that you have that maturity and you're not like there's a lot of people in that scenario they're not able to like remove themselves from the trauma of the whole scenario yeah and then they wind up like being super like I get bitter you know what I'm saying oh yeah yeah yeah yeah you feel what I'm saying like but if it's section eight what that really means like is like pretty much government assistance like if you like if you're a mother yeah yeah raising a family and you ain't so it's like the kids that grew up in the low-income apartments that are you know subsidized by the county or the state type right that's like that's what that means to you essentially right so the people that didn't really get a chance or were overlooked or you feel me and then like guess what we here and we all live right there yeah we missing out on opportunities but at the same time we're gonna figure out how to get to where we need to go you feel me and it might be looked upon in a negative way but honestly it ain't shit that negative to us i ain't gonna lie shit i mean do you ever tap in with that clothing company section eight oh no i'm gonna plug you in with them yeah that's Obvious collab, right?
12:09That'd be super sweet. No, they been around for a second, too. They been around. I like that brand. I like that brand a lot. I'm me. For sure. I'm me. Okay, so when you start thinking about rapping? I, like, to be real with you, bro, I did not grow up on some rapping shit. I wasn't niggas just trying to make beats on the counter. I love music, though. You feel me? I'm very diverse when it comes to music. I love all types of music. I listen to the average shit probably somebody listens to. but I listen to R &B, women's R &B. You feel me? I like all types of shit. But as far as being a rapper, I really had to see it for myself.
12:45Different people that's coming up. Obviously, you see a bunch of young people coming up, being around. And I kind of just wanted to figure out my own lane because I'm like, I know what to talk about. You feel me? I just don't know how to lay it down. You feel me? But now I do. But you feel me? So I didn't start rapping shit. From before I went to jail, my music career timeline to the outside view, my first tape I dropped five five months before I went to jail so the world so if we're not counting jail time or anything like that I've only been doing music for six months so what year was that that you dropped 2024 okay so you dropped the project and you got locked up for two years yep okay so okay so when this dude dropped like I don't know what page it was but it was one of like the the new west coast type shit yeah yeah it was one of them like yeah exactly shout out shout out all them the new west coast shout out to you feel me because they they showing love off the strength like you feel me and that's a good i've never asked like sometimes i ask and shit like that but i like all that was no promotion like i never paid for none that shit was just off the strength so i was like damn good looking and i ain't gonna lie i thought that you maybe did pay for promotion at that stage because it was like your music didn't have when i no traction yeah it had no views yet it literally like 2 000 views you feel me and i was like who the hell is this kid popping up out of nowhere you feel me like like no those pages know that they need to create characters or they need to get behind people so that they have people to talk about you know because a lot of those food pages let's be real they like get by on talking about lefty you know so it's like if they're just sitting around waiting like nah we're not gonna post him until he pays us then they don't really got somebody to talk about but i feel like with him they kind of identified the star power probably pretty early yeah i get you apparently they did because like as soon as i seen it i was like first of all you don't rap like anything that we hearing out here right now at all you feel me like and like okay like i'm just gonna say it being rasa like you don't rap like any mexican i ever heard you feel me like because like i mind you i'm hispanic you feel me so i love being hispanic you feel me you're like guatemalan or something these other i'm hispanic and i'm native american okay oh that's what it is so uh but even as far as that i got i'm not an essay you feel me so it's like i'm not gonna make a similar music to you know a couple people around i love their music it's cool it might not be something i i listen to all the time but i can dig it you feel me because i'm hispanic at the end of the day i got hispanic parents i got family that's a part of you feel me that that type of lifestyle too you feel me but well yeah clearly yeah i mean like come on like yeah but i mean beyond that like just the cadence delivery like i was like it really stuck out and i instantly was like i was hitting everybody up i was hitting this fool up i'm hitting brick baby one of the first people like we were just talking about before the interview started i showed brick baby i was like look at this kid right here you feel me and he was like damn we played it on the no jumper music stream instantly i was like this is my favorite rapper right now you feel me and i want to say that's maybe within a week of you getting locked up damn like right before you feel me like Like we reacted to that.
15:54I think it was the Feet Tender video. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was Feet. Was that the first one? Everybody liked that song. I ain't going to lie. Everybody did. Everybody liked the Brickman song. I hate that song. Brickman. Chill, dog. I swear I do. I feel like I'm being attacked right now. No, like, and it sucks. Like, I just feel like I got way better songs than that. But like, but when I did that song, though, that's when I realized like, oh, like, I had to dumb it down on that song, if that makes sense. Like I wanted to be a little more cartoony or I was like, I was like, man, I want to, I don't want to grab attention from this group of people.
16:26I want to grab attention from, you know, the younger, the younger crowd. And I feel like I made a song where it's like, I could still talk my shit, be me, but be on to where it's like, okay, this person might not sell drugs or this young might look, look up to shit like this. So let me purposely try to format this and hopefully you feel me. Now that shit got 80 ,000. It probably would have been up more if I was able to, you feel me, do all this that they doing now reels and all that shit because that shit really they wasn't really doing too many reels like that before especially since i'm 75 but yeah yeah i mean yeah like especially now like everybody just making short form content to try to get people to watch their for sure well like when did you really start to feel like people were latching on like as soon as you drop music did you feel like oh like you could feel the fan base accumulating it was really that song I ain't gonna lie Once I did that song Like I busted Just a little quick Freestyle video It went up I took that little post down But that shit went up Then I posted the video And I was like Damn like okay Like that's what really like Oh you could do this bro You feel me You could do this I think you just need To put your face on the screen And talk crazy Cause I'm different You feel me Like you Like I'm not rapping Like nobody else You know No disrespect But like most people Ain't really on What the fuck I be talking about You feel me Cause I'm not Really I'm playful with it But I'm not kinda wasn't really fabricating shit too much either.
17:47Like, you feel me? I'm just making it fun, but at the same time, it's like, before the rap probably boomed because I'm really out here, people know me for a certain type of, you feel me? But you have to have studied hip hop in some capacity. Oh yeah, always, always. I just never made music myself. Saying things like I ain't trying to be stuck up in the can like some chili beans, you feel me? Like, you have to have like an understanding of metaphors and some of these. Like, I knew what to say. It was more of like just laying it down. that was really the only part but she didn't got that figured out it's only one way to go now you feel me up because okay it's such a cliche thing to tell people that they rap like draco or that they remind them of draco or whatever but i feel like a lot of the people that we say that that they're draco clones or whatever we're kind of talking about the flow and that they rap in like a specific style but i feel like with you you do rap in a way that i see as being kind of influenced by Draco but I also feel like you say inventive funny weird things and that is really actually like the biggest contribution from my perspective Draco is like yeah he flow wise and everything he was really interesting but also like to me a lot of it was just the creativity and like the sort of bizarre style linguistically I'm actually you don't even know how much I appreciate that you just said that you feel me cause I ain't gonna lie that's my goal you feel me that's like that's what I want to put out That's what I want to be No I want to be Talking that shit But I want to put my own Into it I want to make it funny I want to make it Like you feel me I want to Like that I'm glad I heard that right now Me For sure Hell yeah For me Nah for sure I feel like When I listen to your That is a It's like a similar Reason why I still go back To listen to Draco And I love Draco too But I love Draco As far as like As an individual Like more than rapping Like you feel me Cause I just Like that's the type of lane Like it's only a few people That be like California whether it's IE, LA, whatever the case may be, where it's like, oh, yeah, he probably really on that or people know he really on that or he doing that and he independent, he making rap money.
19:48You don't know what else he's doing, but you feel like he probably doing something on the side. He's somebody, you feel me, for sure. Right, and you also kind of remind me of Draco too because you're not technically from a gang, right? Well, I got a collective, Section 8 Babies. Okay, but that's like your own thing. Same thing with him. He had Stink Team. Exactly. He created his own movement, but he didn't get it with a traditional hood. If they want to label it, what they want to label it, it's fine. But to me, it's a collective, all like-minded people. You feel me? But especially when you were younger, that must have taken some courage.
20:23I'm sure at some point there was somebody trying to get you to be from somewhere.
20:29I mean, yes. Actually, you 100 % right. I ain't going to lie. Everybody want me to be. I'm so loved. they like oh yeah just me but at the same time you type shit yeah but it's like yeah i'm on my own damn at the end of the day i'm my own man i make my own decisions for myself you feel me i don't listen to nobody especially somebody that i don't know or don't practice what they preach you feel me like but over here nigga we all in the same tip do you feel like like the ie is a little bit more open-minded to things like that you know i'm saying because like like what well as far as like there's so many hustlers out there and people really get into the money and all that And I know there's like a lot of gang politics out there, but it's like it's different in L.A.
21:10where it's like, OK, some of these gangs and like the structures they have been around since the 1970s. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. On me, on me. Gotta give respect to those. You feel me? But it's so much new going on. It's like, you feel me? 2026. Yeah. It's like probably hundreds of new different shits, different. I don't know. Just changing. You feel me? Whether it's for the good or for the better, you know? But do you feel like part of it is because you moved around as a kid so much? Yeah. No, that's really what it is. I ain't going to lie. That's really what it is. You feel me? Kind of showed you that there was more out there.
21:43But I'm thankful for that, too, because I'm going from so many different areas. I only fuck with joints. Like, I only fuck with, like, you know what I'm saying? Somebody that's validly credible. You feel me? That can go boom and boom and ask somebody else and be like, oh, yeah, I know, bro. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you feel me? What was like the influence As far as like Ism Considering like You know You got Holt right there That's one of the biggest blades Oh yeah And Pomona and all that Shit I hear a lot of ism In your raps Yeah Like you know We Section 8's We on Shit we was on the bricks We always on the hoes You feel me Bricks and hoes Nigga you feel me They just always be lying That nigga I only rap about hoes And bricks And this and that And this and that That's all I know That's all I know Nigga I'm trying to say I'm trying to get in this rap shit.
22:30Save me. Shit. Come on. Come on. Come on. But yeah. So like, was like sugar free and all that? Sugar free hard on me. Is it influence? Yes, for sure. Like on me, him, who else? We already said Draco. Oh, I love Rio. Rio like really like this, like my wave type shit. Like him, like his shit might have went down, but that's for sure up there with me, bro. Shit. That's really where I get an inspiration from. people like that on me yeah real legendary crazy as a rapper exactly he changed the game exactly exactly so it's kind of crazy because like as soon as you started really getting like you drop your first video you feel me you start to get a little bit of motion and then within a matter of days you get snatched up basically yeah so like long story short bro like i was kind of living life on and on top of that i was getting hard and i ain't like i'm from southern california ain't like we do drugs.
23:28Like you feel me? Like anywhere, yeah. Like just, shit, I'm not doing no fetty. So let's clear that. Let's, let's, let's. And I don't be doing, and no crystal, not on purpose. You feel me? Mind you, I'm an A popper like back in the day. If I'm on the road, I'm chewing on some E. So did Section A accidentally do some crystal? Maybe, like you feel me? Like, but accidentally. I ain't over there like, yeah, rack me up. Yeah, nah. The MA and MDMA. You being a powder, you, we blowing down thousands. we up the club. Yeah, we bound us. Not everybody. I can't speak for everybody because these two individuals don't fuck around.
24:02But sex mate, I might bust a Chris Brown in the club like. You feel me? I knew I liked this guy. I'm a slow stash. But you decided to leave that behind at a certain point? Yeah, I don't fuck around no more. I'll just be smoking and shit. I drink. I shouldn't even be drinking. So at that time, you were just kind of like. I was everywhere, bro. I was doing too much. Like, and I'm popping it and should probably been a little more humble. Well, you got a snowflake for your earring. That's got to be a Coke reference. No, that's from before. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we just icy, man. We just icy, man. Like, you feel me?
24:39Like, the snowflakes, like, it ain't. You like snowboarders. Oh, yeah, you got it on you, too. All right. Yeah, I be around the snowboarders, man. The people that love to ski. You feel me? Aspen is beautiful to this time of year. Oh, me. Oh, me. In the Feet Tender video, were you buying that chain right there? No, I had bought another chain that I got at the house. I just, you feel me? Hard times come to the hard shit. So I ain't got a rope for that one. You feel me? So, but yeah, I had bought another chain out there in Vegas. Because that's like right before the time we're talking about or right during in like the midst of it.
25:12So I was like, and I can kind of tell like this dude is like. I ain't going to lie, bro. Like it was so organic. Like I could wake up the budget good. like I could wake up and be like we could shoot a$3 ,000 video we can go blow this shit we can go blow that because the budget and the daily you feel me what I'm daily you feel me getting is like nothing you feel me so I you know exactly so like right now it's like you feel me I'm trying to stay strictly music which I am you feel me and it's gonna work out but before it was like I didn't need to go ask for a management or I didn't need to go try to reach out to a label or I didn't need a label or even when the labels reach out to me like I didn't nigga my Even when I was in jail, my girl was like, you don't see who's in your DMs?
25:53I'm like, who? He's like, this person, this person, they trying to get you to, the least he give out is 200 ,000. I'm like, damn, I never really cared. You feel me? Like now it might be - Is it because it didn't seem real to you or what? Nah, because it's like, we talking about 200, 300, like I ain't gonna lie. Me, let me not say too much, but, nigga, Cody Million, like, it was, you feel me? Oh, it was already good at Stone. Like Millionaire, it was already on the way. You feel what I'm saying? Like, without this music, but. But did that get f***ed up in the situation that got you locked up? Or was that, like, your hustle?
26:29Like, did that just basically come to a screeching halt when you got locked up? Oh, yeah, man. That s*** is over with, man. It's Section 8 pure rapping. That's right. Even if you don't think he's not rapping, like, this is all music. But you just, did you, what did you actually get locked up for in 2020? So, two pistol cases, some work, you feel me? obviously some birds and shit like that and uh just bricks and holes shit they rated the studio? is that accurate? no so a studio nah nah nah okay that's like the rumor on the playground nah nah see that's the crazy thing I don't even you feel me I only conversate with my collective of people but yeah you know they gonna make speculations oh yeah for sure for sure for sure long story short I guess I was around with the wrong people at the wrong time uh shit jealousy got involved whatever the case may be i'm over there moving fast snorting getting drunk all types of driving around stupid you feel what i'm saying hot boy you know yeah and so uh they ended up putting a tracker on my you feel me and booking me at a you said where studio no no no studio um i ended up getting booked at this little telly i was running up and then uh i ended up getting booked again for the same during the same time and then that's that was pretty much it but you know i got the back in Riverside County, I had got the best at Greenbergs and the Greenbergs, they help you out every single time.
27:52How much dope they actually catch you with? Some keys. Really? Yeah. How'd you only do two years? Damn, Adam. What? It's a drug case. What you think you're going to do life for some coke? A key sounds like a lot. A key is a lot, but like a key a lot back in the day, like you're going to get booked for a key, but you feel me? If you ain't got no 10 keys, you either going to the feds or it's a nonviolent crime. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Keeps a key for personal use. Yeah, that's like three days. But yeah, no, if I get caught up now, though, I'll probably get booked for some time. You feel me?
28:25Well, yeah, was that your first offense? But hold on. No, no, no. We're not just going to scratch and move ahead like you didn't just ask me. Bro, I'm just trying to figure it out. Like, let's just be real. Like, you feel me? At the end of the day, Section 8, the Section 8 collective, nigga, we don't condone or no, like, you feel me? You handle your shit, you get in trouble for something, bro. You feel me? You stand on that shit every time, bro. never be around no weirdos no people that got to say anything that talk with none of that not i mean i don't know if that's what she was implying but i was just trying to picture what what whack 100 would say oh yeah i mean if whack 100 he know his shit so he know like oh he just got hit with a drug charge so yeah that is like i mean like like you said if anything i ain't get caught up with no like 15 bird five birds like you know i was just hustling like got caught up You feel me?
29:12Aren't they also pretty lenient when it's your first drug case like that? Yep. I mean, yep. They're not going to just give you 30 years for your first offense, but then if you have a couple. I don't even think you can do 30 years to begin with. For real? They don't do it like that. No, you're not going to get 30 years. At the time, though, in 2024, bro, my lawyer told me, he was like, it's the best time to sell coke. You feel me? No, my lawyer really told me. But she would have told me. I got the best lawyer in the city. I can call him right now type shit. Like, if people really want to feel like they want to ask too many questions, like, now you.
29:45I wasn't like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying. But, you know, the outside looking in, always going to think of some crazy shit like that. But, I don't mean. But, I mean, like, ultimately, if anything, they going to let you out. And then you on the radar at that point. Yes, for sure. Exactly. See when he started. You're on that board. Mandatory. Mandatory. Hey, this dude's free. You feel me? Keep a lookout. Tight shit. And that's why they won't give you a super stiff sentence your first time, which I'm like, okay, you feel me? All right, Brickman, let's see what you can do.
30:16That shit was so funny, though, because mind you, I still had to hustle up some money. I only had to do five years. You feel me? So half of that. You feel me? So boom, boom, boom. It was so funny, though, because I was supposed to turn myself in and I need to get to the dough. At the time, I already had a kid, just had a kid, and my girl was pregnant. You feel me? so I was like I gotta get this dope man they can wait you feel me wait is this the legendary baby shower hell nah I threw that baby shower before that was the first one or what yeah that's the first one but yeah long story short bro I went out to Vegas nigga was hustling in Vegas bro I woke up one morning I'm drenched nigga it's hot in Vegas you feel what I'm saying I'm drenched in sweat I'm like damn baby what the fuck you ain't paid electricity or something I'm like where the electricity box I went outside to go turn my electricity on I was like damn That's how they got you So I was out there in Vegas Stuck for a little bit On me Regular But wait so I do want to talk about Adam did you see This was super viral Maternity pictures I did yes Actually it was before I knew about your music for sure I just thought it was like some crazy dude with a face that's so sad i just thought it was like crazy i was there making fun of him so yeah oh yeah i didn't get here on the making fun of it i was just like damn a solid like that now like saying that's how i've always seen atm richie with the a solid face tattoo is i'm like oh like it's like that now i didn't know a solid was going to become the level of a face tattoo or a baby shower yeah okay but like obviously like what i think a lot of people are missing is it Looks like you spent an insane amount of money on that baby shower.
32:05Man, I did, bro. I spent like$10 ,000. The shit alone was like$8 ,000. It just booked there the whole night. Because you're at Versace, right? Yeah, that shit was expensive. I ain't gonna lie. But I had it at the time, so it didn't really matter. You know what I mean? They were like, I think the main thing was like, okay, it's one thing for you to be dripped in a solid, but Shorty is dripped in a solid as well. How do you think people know? I didn't see nothing wrong with it. I'm like, I'm going to be older and looking back at this like, son, look at this. Yeah. Yeah, we looking crazy right there.
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32:38Like, yeah, your dad was on that. That's El Chapo on your face right there on your mom's stomach. Do you think that we could do a song that's like the Migos Versace song about Asali? Asali. Asali, Asali. Asali, Asali. Look at that. He's a pioneer right here. It's a pioneer. That would be hella funny to bust that out. That's why he alleges it. It's crazy. They bring him back to the 80s right now. I'm like, what the f***? Oh, yeah, right? I mean, Phoenix doing it at least seemed organic as much as it also seemed like AI. But that new Tyga one with the voice that doesn't sound like him at all, I'm just like, oh, is this about, this is what rap's about to be like?
33:15Well, he had first put, he did a session with Tyga. I know, but this new Tyga song is just his own thing. And it's like the same vibe as the Phoenix song where it's not his voice. Low key now, yeah, that's f***ed up. I didn't even think about it like that. He just took his whole shit. Shout out my nigga Phoenix, though. I ain't gonna lie. My first music video ever, like, I ain't even got views like that. This nigga Phoenix found me somehow. Oh, yeah? He's always been tapping in. And in the Inland Empire, my nigga Spank, too. That's my dog. But, yeah, shout out Phoenix. Phoenix always showed love.
33:50I was just kicking with bros a little shit the other day on me. Is this your first interview? Yeah. It is. Why have you been waiting? Like, I'm sure you had people trying to do it before. I mean yeah but I ain't had the opportunity to go I'm a little preoccupied but I'm real picky I'm like I'm not finna just pull up at anybody like right here like no jump like appreciate like this is like a stepping stone you feel me and this is like a goal like this is like a you feel me like you know it's a stamp actually boom like you just got stamped you feel me like I ain't gonna lie like I think we excited about this because I feel like there's not too many people that we've been able to sit down with where like, all right, this is a potentially culturally defining interview, just considering what we believe you're going to mean to the rap game and beyond.
34:37I think this potentially is one of those. Me, for sure. Hopefully, actually, I did one interview before this. I ain't going to lie. And the dude literally told me, hey, I want to do this video, and I'm going to hold it until you blow up. And I'm like, okay, I want to see that shit now. I'm like, ma 'am now, we don't know Jumper, nigga. We ain't even going to show love to that interview. He going to want to wait till it. You supposed to be down for the process, man. Like we coming from the bottom, man. But the whole point of even interviewing somebody earlier in their career is so that people will hear, oh, there's this rapper, Section 8 Baby.
35:13Oh, I heard I heard one song. Who is this dude? Hop on YouTube, Section 8 Baby interview and then watch it. And like that's the whole reason why, like when an artist blows up their early interview, we'll get a lot of views is because, you know, people just want to figure out who they are through that blueprint. So I don't understand why bro would want to post it after you, quote unquote, blew up. Like you want to have that on YouTube for the blow up. You know, I agree. Because like once you blow up, then you're going to go do other interviews. I mean, that's how a lot of us found out about No Jumper.
35:41Even like, you know, like watching XXX and Tassion interview and things like that. And then boom, you feel me? Like that was I feel like there's less and less. And it's not necessarily that there's not talent, but it's just like musical. culture is spread out so far. It's rare that we actually come across somebody that's like, alright, this dude could be extra joining up. And from a music perspective, I would like to see you win just because I feel like you are good at rapping. I just want to see how it blossoms. Man, we gonna see how it unfolds. Who do you want to do music with? Oh, great question.
36:19Shit. All the New Dallas show. Everybody. Because that's my way, bro. Like I said, I'm different, bro. We make hustling music, you feel me? And we mean it, you know? So all the new Dallas people, Montana 700, Zillian Air Doe, Had Hancho Amir, you feel me? Like all them people in that group, fuck with them. Detroit, Michelle, Michigan, whatever, same shit, you feel me? All them type of crowds, you feel me? When we come from California, I was only a few people I really like want to do music with. Free Weez Gotti, that's the thing I would love. We was just conversating, bro just went down, you feel me?
36:52So I got in touch with both dudes I guess one of his homies And shit like that I fuck with Weez Other than that There ain't like Too many people I really With like In this area I'm like I feel like you would actually Do good with some of the Like Rap from like Oakland And Frisco You feel me Some of those fools I mean I fuck with my Up north I mean Like all black and all them You feel me Oh yeah One umbrella All them People in that group They raw I like what they doing that collective you feel me me did you sign a label deal yet no you didn't no i heard you signed a deal for a hundred thousand nah i had a hundred thousand and then i just posted like i signed a deal on me so that that's really what that was about okay but i i mean i've been in money conversations like like i said when my female had told me is people be reaching out yeah i mean was that like somewhat frustrating because you're like all right i'm locked up there's only so much i can oh yeah i ain't gonna lie i was gonna sign that they sent over this they're like when can we meet i was like look man i'm i'm gonna be out of jail in like two months but let's just get this out the way before i get out i really wasn't coming home in two months but you feel me like i i'm glad i didn't but i mean nah honestly though i feel like do you feel Did that put you in an incubation chamber as far as writing?
38:18You're like, all right, I'm locked up right now. I'm finna be writing the whole time. You know what's crazy? I did write, you feel me? But I don't ever write, bro. You off the neck? I'm off the neck every time, bro. Back to back to back. This is like, I love doing this now. You feel me? I love trapping. You feel me? Without the T, nigga, like, for real. You feel me? So I'll be in there just, if I hear the beat, I'm right there on it, punching in. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I ain't gonna say I'm gonna make a whole song like that, but I'm punching in back and forth. I might write down like four bars or something, get a little, you feel me?
38:47And then going to rest. You don't just have some shit pop in your head while you're driving or whatever? All the time. Okay. You write it down? If I need to, I'm on my Jay-Z. You feel me? I think it's some shit low-key. I ain't going to forget it. It's crazy because I feel like all of your songs, they go together, but they all kind of have different themes and different vibes. You feel me? like you like you're not your songs don't all just sound boring as hell like are you trying to work on an album right now or are you just gonna keep doing the singles so i have nothing i have never dropped a single like unless it was like a collab or a paid feature like you feel me like videos all my tapes my first tape is i.e gucci basically i'm the inland empire gucci man you feel me that's what i was about my second tape was brick man and then brick man was dropped while i was incarcerated my other tape almost what the f*** is that shit oh Bricks Text and Clear incarcerated you feel me and then the one that I just dropped so I got four tapes right now okay do you feel like you wanna revise the Gucci title or is it are you still a Guwop fan after the writing damn I man I didn't even think about that right now that s*** did not age well I can't even make an I.E.
40:06Gucci 2 now that I said that you just really this nigga Adam's get I'm glad he said that I'm like yeah we gonna work on Aie Gucci too A bunch of features But I love you I can't even do Aie Gucci no more Man That's sad Freak Push Isty He was a little too good Obviously that wasn't the smartest decision But I can't blame him for it But at the same time That's a lose lose situation Gucci had done the same thing To get out of his deal back in the day When he was signed to Big Cat But he didn't Yeah. You know, so it's like, it's one, there's a difference between actually doing it and like, kind of saying that you would do it.
40:44You know, like, that's the kind of thing a lot of rappers would say that they would do, but then they wouldn't actually get around to doing it. Gucci Mane is such like, and mind you, Gucci Mane, like even probably a little before me, me being younger, you feel what I'm saying? Like, and it's being, growing up and like, what people would say about him, like how much of a figure he is up here, like, it's kind of crazy that that shit happened. Man, we love, like this platform is named after a Gucci bar. So, you know what I'm saying? Like, it runs deep. I'm trying to be open-minded too. He's the number one person that I want to shoot bail to.
41:13When he got out and started rapping like a robot, I was always kind of saying, yeah, but you still rap good. You still hard, whatever. But he just kind of made it so you can't really defend him. We were happy to see him enjoying his life and being the ultimate. But that's the thing, though. It's like you level up so far in your career where you're in tune with the streets and shit like that, but at the same time, it's like he don't really need to probably even go out his way to be in tune with the streets like you already kind of there like you feel what i'm saying so if you choose to be around certain shit you're supposed to move accordingly like you know what i'm saying so it's like but now he's finding out what it's like to actually really lose the streets like probably almost a hundred percent you know and now he's like on his ass like because he never knew what it was like to have the fans turn against him they never did all those years like it kind of in the beginning because gz was more popular than him for a while and it felt like he got a lot of backlash from them falling out.
42:07I know Jeezy in the background like this. Birdman. Oh my God. No, Jeezy talking about ha ha. You got to give him props because he didn't jump out the window and be like, yeah. I knew you would tell. I respect the maturity. He probably wanted to do that. And they did a versus too. Yep. And Gucci man was talking hot. And Gucci won the versus by doing the most immature. Disrespectful. disrespectful thing you could do which yeah that's why we love him but also like damn bro like that's that was a crazy move I was psyched at the time oh yeah I was loving it I was dying laughing I knew it was bad I was looking on Goosey Instagram the other day nigga and I was I clicked on his picture I said oh damn this turned off his comments to all his shit damn yeah that's when he know it's bad I was like oh he had to realistically think about it man he was getting them emojis hella cheese emojis and hell yeah top Top comment on every post.
43:01You are right. 50 ,000 likes. Yeah. It would be bad, bro. Like, really bad. Like, damn, that sucks, man. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, regardless of that, I think, okay, when you obviously beyond, like, this happening after that, it's the image of what Gucci was to us and all that. It's what that meant. It's a lot of people now, like, that present themselves properly, promote themselves properly. I don't got to worry about that. But yeah, you put yourself out there like this is, nigga, yeah. And the Gucci man, that's crazy. Gucci man really is a goat, so that's sad. Yeah. So one thing I was really interested about you, like, obviously, like, you got a super diverse group of individuals you're rocking with.
43:47So like, as far as the Section 8 collective, what does that look like? You feel me? As far as other rappers, other artists and shit like that? Or is it mainly focused on you? I'm damn near forcing my nigga to rap, you feel me? Okay. In the group, you feel me? Nobody really rap other than me, like, right now. This nigga got it. He going to be negative. Y 'all going to end up seeing him do his thing, but. That's right. You feel me? Nobody really rapping in my collective. What about production? Do you have, like, your own producer or anything like that? Yeah. In a way. Yeah. My hot boy. You feel me?
44:22We got a few people I think that you'd work good with, for sure. Shoot them. I'm on working mode right now. Yeah, easily. I'm having good conversations with a lot of people that tapped in even before. You feel me? So, you know, this shit. You feel me? I'm trying to take it there with this rapping shit. Do you feel like your time spent in the streets making money with women has impacted your long-term ability to be in a relationship? Oh, my God. This shit is crazy. Shit. I ain't going to lie. if you want me to be your A1 about the situation, yes, 100%, like all the way through. But, shit, that was a crazy question, man.
45:02Threw me off. Psychologist over here. Yeah. Well, it's like, you're gonna be like a pretty successful guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, on me, on me. I had dropped doing a lot of different shit, like, you feel me? Like, even with the, you feel me, that part, like, you know? Yep, to answer your question, yeah. Once you have kids, everything changes. I mean, like, AJ. To an extent. She went to argue in an E-Sahun or a Vans. Do you feel me? Well, I know a lot of pimps who got kids. You just got to be able to compartmentalize them. I mean, like, E-Sahun or a Vans. Choice is yours, baby. People say they're pimps.
45:36They're not really pimps. Oh, I feel that. Oh, yeah. For sure. I think about that a lot. I sectionate on some regular s*** right there. But also, like, there's people that, like, we didn't know were pimps, and then they get indicted for being pimps, and you're like, oh, s***. And then you listen to music a little differently, or you're like, oh man, that's really how you were trying to be just doing that for a living. That's crazy. Yeah. Shit, it pays shit. Yeah, I know. You feel me? You need to do it properly, the right way. World's oldest profession. Feels like a bad time to be one, though. Well, I mean, like.
46:12At least here. We got a lot of indictments. Yeah. I mean, like, you feel me? You said it's the oldest what? Profession. Exactly. So if you're trying to do some shit that's been around and still do it the same old school way, yeah, definitely it's not going to be going right for you. But if you're trying to update your shit and get on a new wave with this, you feel me, shit with women, you make a lot of money. Digital pivot. The digital pivot, but there's still a big appetite for real life vagina. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah, that's mandatory. You just got to play. You feel me? Interview your tricks properly.
46:45We'll see how good these AI bots are in five to ten years. I might not even need a girlfriend. I ain't gonna lie, bro. That's what f*** me up. Because listen, I ain't even do it like, you feel me? Like I signed for five, you feel me? So, but before I went out, went in, bro, ChatGBT was not around. You feel me? It didn't even exist. But for that shift to just come and it's like everybody like boom, like boom. Any question you ask is like boom, boom, boom. So now it's like, damn, like I still don't, I barely downloaded that shit yesterday. But I've been around certain people that I won't say that be like, mind you, I don't know what they really doing but they'd be in the studio that they'd be like you ain't you ain't do the ai yet i'm like what like so i'm like man that ruined the whole because then it's like if everybody else doing that i'm like do that you feel me but but i'm i'm natural with it but i'm like damn like i guess this is putting the four bars on their phone and letting them do the rest and they don't really working no more we can hear the difference though yeah well but i feel like okay i've never actually done it but the thing that makes sense to me is like you never just just get stuck in the studio you're trying to think of something around something yeah especially like three hours straight yeah and you just can't think of anything that sounds cool like i would just be like say it to my phone like give me 10 things that rhyme with red bull can okay that's a little bit different and like then but obviously you could just let it write all your bars but i feel like that ain't bad but chat gpt ain't gonna say like some super swaggy cool that like i never I never tried it, so I wouldn't know.
48:14But I'm saying, when people talk about it, it make me think, damn, is that what's going on? You feel me? For the lames that have no talent, because you said Red Bull can, Method Man, lesson plan. You feel me? I can think of 15 rhymes right now. But the phone could give you everything. Ever. That ever rhymed. It's not good enough yet. And the thing is, the people that are doing complete, doing complete, like you said, they'll wrap four bars and then have ChatGBT fill in the blank. You could hear like how it's not as organic. You could hear how like the vocals are a little bit too perfect and things like that.
48:54Like perfect is crazy. How do you know if they use ChatGBT or not? Can you point the mic towards your mouth? Okay, as far as 100 % definitively knowing, you can't. You know what I'm saying? But I can, as someone that literally spends eight hours a day listening to you. Fake bars. Yeah, I can tell. I was selling rappers fake bars before AI. Just to be real. You feel me? Slapping that Fetty one. Slapping that Fetty one. Nah, but I feel like there's a place for it, or there's a way to use it that is productive, and there's a way to use it that's super corny and not going to work. Yeah, for sure. But I mean, that Phoenix song, as much as he wants to say it's not AI or whatever, to me, that's like, he made a hit because he used AI.
49:37And my nigga shut off my nigga Phoenix because he always show love. I ain't gonna lie, but in my defense, I ain't never seen him use AI. In his defense, my defense. But I think he didn't want to be the first dude to have a hit song that everybody knew was AI. So he would rather it be a hit song that people are arguing about if it's AI or not. Which is genius. Yeah. And it's kind of even like. It's 100 % genius. Yeah. What the f***? But even if eventually, let's say. If that was the case, yeah. Yeah, let's say it is. Let's just hypothetically say it is. If he come out in five months to say, hey, that was AI.
50:07I was on Billboard running it up. Now he's going to get a deal with Sunos, you feel me, an AI company probably for millions of dollars. Hey, I'm the first dude to ever hit Billboard with an AI song. So it's a W for Phoenix regardless of how it plays out. I've always written the YouTube titles pretty much for No Jumper. Like over the years, I'm almost always the person writing it. The other day I did an interview with this dude, Matthew Cox, who was like a huge bank scammer, mortgage fraud dude or whatever. and when i was thinking about it before i even read the time stamps to write the titles i thought to myself i'm like bro i don't know what the fuck i'm gonna write for these titles because it was kind of like he's telling the same story the whole podcast right i put that shit in chat gbt it gave me like five clip titles that were so much better than what i would have been able to think of my own and i was just like wait you wrote like a summary no well they they like somebody goes through and writes the timestamps which also the ai could do that or you could just literally upload it to youtube and then copy and paste the transcript which that's what i did today i have to interview this person and i kind of don't have to have time to like listen to a three-hour podcast with them i go to the transcript on the youtube video copy and paste put it into chat gbt suggest questions it summarizes the whole thing gives you questions like the the biggest time saver i could ever imagine in a million years so not only are the 30 foes going to get replaced by robots but apparently not the Clippers and the podcasters.
51:34Okay. How the fuck a whore going to get replaced with AR? Well, OnlyFans was a start, but okay. You go to, you go to fig right now. How many of those girls do you think are making any like legitimate money off OnlyFans? Probably very few. Oh man, they walking the blade. Nigga, they not trying to go on OnlyFans. Yeah. Yeah. But I feel like OnlyFans is like the dream for them. Yeah. They all probably got OnlyFans aside from the ones who are underage, which is like most of them. Yeah. I get what you're saying though on me. Cause that, I mean he like pretty much saying like would you rather you feel me get money here or get money nigga just posting pictures or some shit videos.
52:08100%. Cause if she's making 500 bucks a month off OnlyFan she probably feels like it's so dope. You know? It's like nothing to like a porn star but to a girl walking the blade that probably seems like You know what's fucked up? You know what's fucked up Adam? This shit mind blows me the other day like not the other day when it happened mind you I just picked up you feel me I'm up like 50 bucks you feel what I'm saying? and I'll be around and shit like that boom boom boom boom but then I run into some OnlyFans you feel what I'm saying and I be young as hell nigga million dollars and I'll be like damn what the like that shit crazy that's the evil secret of the OnlyFans world and I heard 6ix9ine say it on camera the other day and I was like oh shit I didn't know that anybody knew that but a lot of the girls who are on Instagram that have like four or five hundred thousand followers and they look young as shit they look like they're 20 21 even younger like some of them are a little older but they look young bro they make so much money on me that's the jug you know these one look you feel me i mean fig fig has taught us that as well because when i ask people they always say that it's the young ass girls they get all the attention on the blade well and look at like the if you look at the top earners on only fans even that are like highly publicized to be like bad baby when you turn 18 little tay when you turn 18 Oh, yeah.
53:28Which is super predatory. They're making a couple of M's that day. Several, yeah, several. It's a whole thing. That's why it's kind of crazy when you see people get busted for pimping minors and you're kind of like, well, I feel like probably the vast majority of dudes who are pimping over there are doing that. Unfortunately, I think it's a big part of the game. They're not exactly like the most ethical people on earth. Yeah. So probably they're not going to just start following the law when it comes to that issue. Oh, wait, your birthday is when? Oh, sorry. Hit me up in six months. You can't have an ID checked.
54:06You ain't even do no background. I didn't know. It's too late now. It's too late now. Yeah, it's a f***ing up game, man. All right, so where do you feel like you're at in your career right now? What do you feel like you need to do to get to the next level? I just think I need to keep making music. I didn't really get the opportunity to, like, keep going. But now it's over with, you feel me? So I'm just going to keep working and see where it gets me, you feel me? I'm just going to go off. Worth that dick. I'm a firm believer of, like, shit, what you put in the universe, what you're going to get right back.
54:41And that's exactly why I feel like I'm here right now. Because even with the money I had before, you feel me, whether making stupid decisions, I still put money aside to go hit that studio. You feel what I'm saying? So all that time that I wasted money and I lost money and whatever, that money that i put into the studio it reciprocated came back and this is how i got here you feel me so that's the only way that's the only thing i could do um i just i honestly feel like i'm way better than shit everybody but that's just me my personal if i feel like you you you're not gonna make it nowhere if you you don't feel like you the best you feel what i'm saying no and you actually are going stupid do you feel like um there's a specific demographic that rocks with you the most you feel like you get more love from black people than you do mexicans or white people Like I said, bro, like, I feel like I get love pretty much from all cultures.
55:29You feel what I'm saying? I'll be around the brothers. You feel me? Really? That's, you know, so as far as I might not get love from a super extra doubt essay, or I might do. Actually, it can go either way. You feel what I'm saying? So my homies that are extra doubt essays love your s**t. Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, I don't, like, that would be the only thing, like, you feel me? But other than that, I think everybody like my s**t. You feel me? Yeah. Shit, I'm just, shit, I fuck with whatever fuck with me. Me. Was that kind of like, obviously, like, the environment you grew up in, it's so diverse and things like that.
56:03But was there, at a certain point, do you feel like the Mexicans were like, damn, like, I wish you rocked with us more or some shit like that? Nah, everybody, I never really experienced no hate like that. That's good. Like, really, like, ever, you feel me? I ain't gonna lie. I'm all about the diversity and just people rocking with each other. Diversity, equity, and inclusion Yeah man, shit We need to keep it diverse Look at this right here Blacks and whites all conversating This is a beautiful thing Shout out to the Asians and the Middle Easterners Shout out to the rest of the rest of the rest Yeah, y 'all got a place on the table as well You got a lot of fans on the res?
56:41On the res? Oh hell yeah I really never got in tune with my Native American side You feel me? Do you know what type of Native American you are? I gotta figure it out I might have to get on that 23andMe I didn't know that's what it's called What's the other one called? Oh yeah
57:03No but that's crazy Because you do the 23andMe and all of a sudden Your dad's getting caught for a body back in the day What? Not necessarily Let me not do that one then No but for real they get your DNA And then they can basically Trace it to people who are of your same genetic profile that committed crimes that if they have DNA on some murder victim back in the day, this happens. That's crazy. Random a girl does the 23 of me and then all of a sudden her dad who's 56 gets hit with murder charges. Let me not do this. No, for real. No DNA. The only reason I was suggesting for you is because you might have some casino money coming to you, my guy.
57:44You feel me? That's your point. Shout out to Offset. You feel me? Yo, but actually, I don't think it matters because if you've already been locked up, then they already have your DNA and your fingerprints and all that kind of shit, right? Yeah. Type 2. I mean. I mean. For your dad, I was not suggesting that he actually has anything like that in his past, for sure. Especially on his way home. I think he already crossed that bridge. He already did what he did. For sure, man. But we got to make sure that all the natives tap in. yeah for sure no everybody small community but they're devoted we know what we're hitting every reservation there is man free concerts in the res tour and there's no laws on there we getting hard to come on i mean uh uh we we bring in the sconto we serving bringing the sconto to the res you know they got the bread you feel me and when it's there it's uh it's 200 a gram plug prices that's what's up I'm just gotta love it alright tell them your Instagram or like where they should go to tell them shit see what it do S-E-E what it do regular shit section 8 baby be on the lookout it's only up from here it's for me let's go alright you already know what it is man I'm juicing we got this poppin we're gonna be excited to see your progress from here and all that man I appreciate this shout out to section 8 baby Go tap in with him on all streaming platforms.
59:16Shout out to Lush One. Yes, Ersky. Nojumber. Coolest podcast in the world. Coolest. YouTube, TikTok, Instagram. Like, comment, and subscribe. And shout out to our members who got to watch this live. Section 8 Baby's the gang, man. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Gang. We about this biatch. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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