Sharky on Being an Asian Hoover, Hustling, Prison Time, Joining Back on Figg & More

33:01Right. Feds, you do 85 % of your time. I think his shit was violent, wasn't it? Hey, thank you for those wings, first of all. Amazing. Gas, I got you a sauce bottle, too. Yeah, what do you want to drink, Lush? You want to drink the fresh cremosa? I think that oh, wait, hold on. What's this? And then we have Pink Mirage. Try all them shits. Yeah, I'm going to try them more. Them for y 'all. Let's go. Damn, this is dope. We got the Woods versus the Hoovers. That sauce is hot as it might be. Before GTA 6. Did you try it? Wait, was that the sauce that was on there? Yeah. The orange chicken one? Because there was a habanero.

33:35What was it? What was it? Nah. It's a spicy orange. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was the other sauce? It was parmesan. I thought it was garlic parmesan. It was lemon pepper parmesan? Yeah, it was parmesan. All right, remix. Yeah. That shit was fart. I ain't got a gas pack. You go hit him with the remix. What's your thing about that sucks? You feel me? Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to lie. That's smack, bro. I was like, first of all, there's wings at No Jumper. This is a marked improvement. And then I heard it was from, like, a resident booty, you feel me, Sharky, who is literally, like, one of his main enterprises is the whole food thing.

34:15So, like, I know that it wasn't going to be no BS, but then when I tried it, fire. You know, we play it. We got to come to know jumper, you know, food, sauce, juice, clothes, you know, keep it playing. We should have thought. No, there's a lot of people that feel like they can't pull up without like empty handed. I wasn't raised like that at all. For me, I go over your house. I'm not bringing anything. I never even think of it. But I know a lot of people that it's like you pull up, you need to have a marble rye. So, okay. So when you're the host, you take extra graces because it's not a part of your culture.

34:45I don't, but my girl does to such a crazy extent where it's like if people come over, where she immediately starts apologizing for like, oh my God, I would have had food. Cause this Armenian thing is like, we need to feed everybody. But we don't have enough resources. So it's a preemptive apology. Yeah, well, cause she's not thinking about it. And I just have like five people come over randomly. She doesn't even know they come in. And it's like, we just had to show, you know, the internet, you know, how, you know, how we pull up, you know, we got quote unquote bad rep, but you know, we play it, we fly, we, you know, we avoid altercations unless other, or promoting otherwise.

35:19Well, you know, we fly, we play, we like everybody else. We'll be chill, kick back. I think the Hoovers are the aggressors. Show everybody a good time. It just seems like you guys are out here stirring shit up. You're not just reactive. So we just going around just f***ing people? Not like people, but like, yeah. That's stirring shit up. You guys are out here just sparking things off. Do y 'all feel like y 'all are misunderstood? Yeah, man. That's kind of what I was getting from Sharky a second ago. It seemed like, you know, like, hey, we coming here, we on some fly shit. Yeah, for real. But it's like, we always get the end of the stick, like he just said.

35:55We feel like we start shit out. Well, look, I'm born and raised in L.A., right? And I wasn't even, I'd only met a few people from Hoover prior to me coming to No Jumper and meeting T-Rell in there. You feel me? Like, you guys are like your own world in the city. You know what I'm saying? For sure. Every community is their own world, though, unless you brought into that community and you really know. So just like, you know, it's like nationality races. You don't know how this family is compared to this family unless you're in your world. You might see some bad misleading information about them on the news, the internet.

36:27But until you actually know like your own experiences, you don't really know if it's true or not. What do you feel like was the biggest like positive look that the Hoovers had as a community overall? What was like the big like, okay, like was it school boys popularity or like? everybody's doing everybody's doing good back on fig schoolboy so you think it's right now then because I'm saying like in history like in history yeah from like just the limelight the positive note is probably right now we got a lot of positive stuff Young Threat was on GNX we got podcasts we got clothing lines we got record labels you just gotta adapt like the streets ain't how the streets used to be a lot of them he's been doing shit right now for sure so how Threat doing you good or what He's straight.

37:15That's right. Free Threat, man. Free Threat. Yeah, that's a crazy situation. How well you know him? I never met Threat. He got, all his shit got popping when, um. While you were locked up, huh? And then when I got out, he went in. I know him knowing that's my boy. He's straight. Yeah? Mm-hmm. You think he's going to beat that shit? Hopefully, he's here. Hmm. Yeah. Free his ass. I can't believe that shit. Yeah, no, it's like, it's crazy going from, like, and it seems to be, like, a lot of, because GNX went so raw with the underground, as far as like, we gonna find just people that are still really relevant in the city, AKA, that could mean people that are, if they're not directly, like their people are still super active in the trenches and the land type shit.

37:59So it's like, it is different than a mainstream album. You're used to seeing things like that. So to see someone go from being on a Grammy winning album and all this huge accolades to being in a situation like this is unusual. you know yeah when I was in the feds JNX was popping when they called me and told me that was on the album I'm like damn that's hard on the Kendrick album that's a big that's a big placement that's huge what Kendrick did for the city was he opened a lot of doors that was a you know he just shining light on that's what he's supposed to do yeah that was a good look man I love that it's also like I feel like with the internet now there's like a lot more Hoovers that people like on the internet so people like you can't watch that Jab 5 Vlad interview and not be like, you know what?

38:44That's a nice guy. He's got a good head on his shoulders. He seems like, you know, like. He knows how to handle himself. He told me that he got everybody he ever met in his whole life, including people he don't know, hitting him up, just like wanting to f*** with him because they seen that interview and they just thought he seemed like a good dude. So it's like if the Hoovers did have like a reputation of just being like bad or psycho or some shit like that, I feel like that kind of goes away as you like see more people that seem pleasant to be around and shit, you know? And that's why I use the word misunderstood because you actually meet people from over there.

39:16You know what I'm saying? Look, when gangs get that big, the reality is there's all different types of people. You can't even really just like quantify it in one phrase, right? Because like it's so deep. You can't even, you know what I'm saying? But like. But all right. If you're going to make it as a Hoover in the industry, do you need to like at a certain point kind of put the beefs to the side? because realistically the Hoover's beef with some of the biggest gangs in LA and like it's just going to be tough to be in these environments with lots of other rappers and shit without like being around people that you're like traditionally not supposed to get along with, right?

39:51You just got to move accordingly. Go respectful and as long as you get your respect back, that's all what it is. And then, yeah, shout out to Wack for having Jab on that tour too. That's what I was thinking too. Appreciate Wack for putting the homie on, man. That's a great look. And I hit up Wack this morning and said, hey can we get bz2 janky on a couple of those dates and he just boom made it happen right away that's right yeah and i talked what you know just because like there's been uh random headlines attached to aspects of his tour i talked to whack for a long time he he really actually working really hard and like and organizing that meticulously so that's dope that there's some aspects that are positive yeah when y 'all do uh wax the you and wax y 'all definitely want to come me and ask whack some questions and see how I can improve as a manager and also I want to ask you too like how is it being a podcaster like what tips would you have for me since I'm starting out podcasting on my journey right now how do you handle branding deals how do you pick your guests so are you starting your own podcast or you're strictly a back on fig host now yeah back on I can't give you any advice.

40:57I can't I can't help you with that. I'm sorry. Hey realistically though I could because because since I brought Adam all these chicken wings and everything and came and still denied you. Okay so specifically what what are you looking for tutelage with like so is that a brand deals and stuff that's complicated that's like that's that is a part of it. What makes you pick these brands over other brands, these guests over other guests? What's your mindset about how you run your business and how you run everything? You need to start a kid. I mean, for me, it's like you got to look at the guests as like who's going to move the needle.

41:35But realistically, at this point in time, we do a lot of interviews with people who are like smaller, where we're like kind of just doing it to just like, I mean, that's the flavor of the channel is that we just talk to a lot of underground rappers, street dudes, etc. But then there's also the Charleston whites and the, you know, like the people where you got to break bread and build those relationships. And if you look at somebody like Vlad, Vlad has like the best business in the podcast or YouTube world, basically, because he just identifies people that he thinks he can have good conversations with over and over and over, and then just builds relationships with them.

42:09Keeps it straight up from my perspective. You know, he's like, tells them exactly what he can pay them. If they want to raise, he keeps it real with them. he'll break open the books and say look like i can pay you this but i can't pay you this and he just builds up relationships like that and i mean that's the whole thing with the podcast world especially now is that it's all about relationships because you're competing with tony ayo and joe budden and like all these people who either have big platforms or just like internationally famous right so i mean i'm lucky because i got my foot in the door early like kind of glad could say the same thing like both of us if we were to start now we'd probably have a very hard time but we got into the game a little bit early but i feel like just building up those relationships is pretty much like the number one thing and what like makes you like determine like to pull the trigger when somebody asks for bread because this is a big a big platform and like just inviting somebody they should want to go for you know on their end their promotion but what makes you like how do you feel when people say that they want bread and what charge you try to charge you good question i mean okay because a lot of people when it comes to charging like if you're gonna ask to get paid for interviews you basically should like already have interviews out that make it obvious that you provide a lot of value you know because if you're doing like millions of views like in total between all your clips or whatever then yeah you could probably ask for something but even in the case of like Aries Spears and Boosie when they recently left Vlad.

43:39Aries saw that Boosie was getting paid$25 ,000 and all of a sudden got pissed off about the fact that he was getting$4 ,000. Now $4 ,000 is already like a lot for a podcast. $1 ,000 a week, that's good. And you're not streaming. But he's only pulling up like once a month too. Just for a 90 minute conversation. So you wouldn't pay nobody to try to collab to do something with you to get your shit going? If it makes sense, yeah. But that's why I'm trying to understand more. You gotta look at the views and see all that. Yeah, are you going to make more money off of it, like off of YouTube? I understand everything about it, but I just want to hear his perspective and what Adam thinks about it and what makes him the determining factors.

44:16I definitely understand if it's going to make your brand further out, it's going to get you views. Even if you just get a return on investment and you don't get a profit, is it worth it for your company to invest that money? And I feel like I know why you're asking because T-Rail, I don't think it's ever really paid guests. Which is a choice, you know, because on one hand, you can just move on respect. Somebody like Shannon Sharp, Breakfast Club, they're not paying for guests, right? Yeah. But it kind of changes the economics of the whole situation, like, when you start to. Because I think that Vlad paying people is basically, like, the reason for his success up to this point.

44:50Because, like, he gave 6 '9", 50K. But he also said that he made more off that interview than he's ever made off any other interview. It was a four-hour interview. So, it's like... All the clips that come with it and everything else. He probably made a lot of... money off it but he got that look and was able to do that because of the fact that he was actually willing to pay now he paid way too much like and they immediately like for their second interview they immediately dropped the rate down like crazy but i mean even for me with like charleston white i just interviewed him it's probably like our biggest interview of the year so far and it's like i'm about to interview him again and it's like the amount that i paid him like the first time was like a no-brainer but then the second time is like i don't know are the views is going to stay as solid long-term.

45:35I kind of think they will because he's done Say Cheese a million times and always does super, super good. How much did you pay him? I mean, we talked about it basically on camera, but he says that he gets$10 ,000 from Say Cheese. So that's what he charged me. I'm like, okay, let's do it. But I am kind of keeping an eye on the numbers to be like, maybe at some point I have to tell him I can't pay him that. So, boom, you pay$10 ,000. What is your mindset to recoup the money? How do you do these clips? it's YouTube what yeah I mean to be able to put brand deals on it or whatever would be nice but then if you don't get that you know it's like if you do the clips and you do clips clips then a whole full video yeah maybe you get 10 clips and maybe each clip makes 10 or makes a thousand dollars but then the full interview maybe that's what you actually see the profit from you know it's like but I mean because like okay THF Bezu is a dude from Chicago that we interviewed and he like that was the most I ever had to pay for an interview ever which seemed crazy to me but Remo kept telling me to do it he's like trust me he's such a legend in Chicago that like is worth it and so I did pay him 15 bands before he got killed and he did his first ever interview with us but for sure that shit was worth it because every clip was doing like 300 ,000 views and then he died a couple years later yeah it's just basically like anything else like investing in a business stocks you don't It's just how you gut feeling type shit.

46:59It's just all about picking the right spots, though. It's leverage. Like, if they have enough leverage to ask for money and it's more valuable for your platform to have them over there than it would be for any recognition they get from being over there, then, yeah, you might could have to cash out. But sometimes it don't work. Like, Sean Cotton from State Cheese paid Ryan Garcia 15K for an interview. Told me it flopped so hard. But is there, like, other benefits you can't see, like, off rip? like okay this is getting us maybe it's raising the overall value of the platform we can now have this on our resume part of the problem though like basically saying you had this person right and then when somebody else look at it like oh he had them on there exactly so they'll make them want to get on there yeah and that's part of the whole thing with interviews too is that what interviews you do change what guests you'll be able to get like vlad at a certain point like 10 years ago he stopped interviewing porn stars even though vlad is a horny who wants to have sex with porn stars and he fucking he used to interview a lot of porn stars if you go look at vlad's most popular clips a lot of them are porn stars but i think at a certain point he realized if i want to get all these big ass celebrities and stuff and they look at my channel and i got porn stars all over it maybe that's not going to necessarily be good in the long run which but from my perspective it's like well i'm gonna stop interviewing gang members and drill rappers and shit i can't do that that's the that's who i am that's what i'm into that's you know but EBK J-Bo will never do a McDonald's commercial.

48:25You know what I mean? Because they wouldn't want something like that affiliated with their brand. Possibly true. How do you guys feel about so I feel like the Texas Hoovers have kind of like become conscious of their own existence. They're on the internet. They're arguing. They've got all this shit going on. I feel like the biggest thing has been like the fact that they have some different traditions and certain people from LA, like particular Gumby, feel a way about that. They feel like there's standardized ways that people are supposed to be Hoovers and if you go against that, then that's all bad.

49:03And they don't think that dudes from Texas should be able to call themselves Hoovers while doing things differently than they would do it. How do you view that? You know, shout out to Houston, shout out to Seattle, Oklahoma, Brooklyn, Portland. Everywhere I go, the homies embrace me. What they got going on in their area, you know, that's what they got going on. I'm not going to go nowhere and tell somebody to do, you know, XYZ, and they should be, you know, they're doing ABC type shit. But it's certain little stuff, little things you could critique. But other than that, I mean, you know, what they got going on for years and years and years, you can't just go to somebody's house.

49:43You can't go to somebody's house and tell them, oh, you're not cooking. Or put your couch this way. Yeah, you can't go to somebody's house and tell them live like this and do like that. It's going to be little stuff you could critique, but you ain't going to switch their whole program at just like they're not going to switch your whole program. But I think part of what took it to a different level was that I think Real Tune TV did an interview with Gumby, and Gumby, not even Gumby, but his homies were talking about, what is it, like if you have HCG on you, or is it HGC? Yeah, yeah. If you have it in the wrong order and you're in L.A., they're not f***ing with it.

50:19He was damn near like, yo, if you really be spending time out here, we're going to remove that tattoo. I'm from HGC. He's from HCG. Yes. Oh, okay. I don't know what Gumby had going on. That's my homie. But I was in jail, so I never watched any of the interviews. I don't know. But I be in Texas a lot. And all my homies out there, they show hella love. Yeah, they're cool. They're hella welcoming. I mean, so I don't know what experience he got going on. I don't know what transpired with that stuff. I can't speak on that. That's grown man business at the end of the day. So I don't know. But from my personal experiences, every time I go to Houston, it's orange.

50:56It's wonderful. You know, I'm out there every, every day. What are you doing out there so much? Buying hats? Nah. Selling CDs. Selling CDs, man. I got you. yeah i mean that was definitely like uh that's like kind of what made gumby like a star on the internet i think was that interview because you just realize like oh this guy's got a lot of extremely strong opinions and he don't give a f**k about saying it well i think that kind of like is across the board for a lot of like legendary la sections is like okay like we this is the land this is where everything started so everybody kind of got a look to LA for how to do things and what the protocol is and then when you so it's really on y 'all because y 'all are the ones y 'all are the originators and y 'all dictated it do you feel like a level of responsibility though it's like we got to kind of show the rest of the world how to do this Hoover thing I'm not no no no G homie so I'm not you know I don't I never brought this there or this that you know and I got kids bills I got my own stuff mom shit I gotta worry about so however they been doing it wherever they at that's the way they go keep doing it regardless can't go nowhere else and change nobody there's gotta be some exceptions to that but I'm not gonna wade into doing like hypotheticals like what if somebody out of town was doing this we go down that rabbit hole forever maybe they feel entitled because of the hat like yo they've been wearing the Astros hat out there like you know we should have some say too yeah you just gotta go into the history you gotta you know go out there speak to their G homies talk to the homies that brought it out there there's so much stuff that you gotta look into and stuff like that they true that groovy they open words with us type shit but my personal experience is when I go to Houston I'm going to Houston like 10 years is everything I got friends out there I got you know everything everything my experience has been wonderful I just came back out there from Tuesday what day for yesterday I just came back I'm gonna go back Sunday no yeah it's a great vibe out there very friendly people It's different than L.A.

53:03I like the chill shit. Bring back Turkey Legault. That shit is gone. That nigga blew the people up next door. Was he a drug trafficker or something? He blew their business. Nah, that shit down. They was fighting over some business shit. That nigga went over there and bombed that shit. Right. But there was hella things going down over there. Right there. It's right here like this, though. Right next door from each other. Yeah, it was essentially like the no jumper of restaurants. That shit was crazy. any in the fast fashion too oh for sure yeah yeah i never got a chance to go there i just always hear people talk about it like it was the fire fire fuck fire man damn so how do you guys feel about like the current state of affairs that we have where it's like everybody on a street level is just reporting on everything that's going on in the streets like honestly we seen that with the an jefe situation so much because you got dudes from like from the hood of the dude who allegedly got killed and they're making youtube videos telling the world everything that they know about it you got people like flaco and trap lord ross making videos giving out their version of events and then having that shit be like completely disproven um he's been disproven it just feels like everything is is kind of wild out here now where like everything streetwise is just up for grabs people are making content about it it's just technology the day and age that we that we are in everything's gonna evolve different from when we had dial-up internet to where you know you got what is the elon's internet starlink anywhere in the world and connect to the internet now so just adapting to the day and age type shit yeah but would you disapprove of one of your homies if they decided they wanted to be a youtuber who was just airing out To each his own.

54:51Whatever everybody's doing. All I can worry about is myself, how I hold myself, and hold myself accountable to what I do. Can't worry about what somebody else does. But this situation seems kind of crazy because it's like a dude making a – a guy who's like homie or somebody you know got killed, he's from that dude's hood, and then he's making YouTube videos or Instagram clips basically saying, hey, allegedly this is what happened. and then lays out every single detail about it, which him saying that's not going to change the likelihood that they could get a conviction, but it's definitely kind of a change of pace where it used to be I didn't see nothing, I didn't hear nothing, I don't know what the f*** is going on.

55:35Now it feels like s*** has changed a little bit where now people are more open to just airing out whatever's going on in the streets. People have been gossiping since the beginning of time. it's just more easier to get your gossip out on a big platform whatever's you know whatever that they that's their cup of tea that's their cup of tea they want to have dunkin donuts in the morning i can't tell them to go get starbucks you made like a conscious decision to kind of stay away from that type of content because like when i watch your content you don't seem to be like in that direct lane i'm not saying you couldn't be but i'll just be on some positive shit play as shit productive shit i don't like negativity i'm big and positive and negative i don't want to talk about someone's downfall somebody's situation in a negative light i'd rather talk about something productive talk about some food how your family doing let's talk about sports we could talk about current events and stuff like that but just not everything has to be into a negative manner right and then i'm not a lawyer i'm not know somebody that's gonna i don't know what's going on and i'm not gonna say my theory or my version of what i'm assuming or such and such told me this and told me that that's not really what type of stuff that i'm into so food content like going to marathon burger yeah that was good it was good marathon burger we went it was cool ordered our food sat there filmed our video so what ratio troll versus like sincere content was this because it kind of felt like it was both wait say it again like it felt like it was a troll and it was like why was it a troll um because you guys are from hoover which traditionally would be for the neighborhoods and it's basically a neighborhood burger joint.

57:11But you got to think about though how many gangs own businesses that people go to that aren't branded or limelight. Marathon Burger is just trending in California right now. Right. So it's known, it's viral. Let's go try it. I go to that burger spot. What's that burger spot? Fresh and meaty. I go there. That's in the hood. Who owns that? I don't know. It's right in the hood though. There's a lot of businesses that are owned by people from certain gangs that people gravitate toward. It doesn't mean it's going for it. Definitely wasn't going for it. But that's a super prominent one that everybody knows what time it is.

57:43Everybody, that's like we do food. It's like somebody coming to California and wanting to go to Roscoe's. They don't know who owns Roscoe's, but it's a staple. If this is on the news, if this is everywhere, damn, everybody's going here. Man, let me try the food. Everybody likes to eat. I think we were actually on stream when I saw that you guys went there. And so that was kind of the conversation right away. is like oh is this sincere respect being paid to uh dudes from a hood back doing a food review but then you're you're in the comments responding to people and you're putting the k after the n in the response i mean that's my regular text though so you have autocorrect to add a k after every n if i tell you right now let's go pop up nk for sure i actually believe you but also that seems like makes it feel like more of a troll i said i have food in my mouth yeah right i nk whenever you see me on Instagram regardless if I put in you gonna always see the K right not trolling but for real I feel like that kind of changes the vibe but that's normal that's how I regular text like if I even be texting anybody like my mama I'm like alright NK like really?

58:45y 'all took it y 'all took it that way but that's not what it was we invented what that stands for? no you said the trolling part like I did it on purpose no it's regularly that's how I text right well can you see how it would be perceived that way to somebody that don't know no better right Like that's not familiar with like sharky. I didn't even remember I even put that right. Remember? Cause I'm like, damn, look what they talking about. I said, shit, that was regular texting. Like I didn't do it on purpose. Like, oh, woo, woo, woo. No, we had a, um, we did the mic drop at exotic pop and it was right next to it.

59:14So I said, we might as well try a marathon burger while we're here. Hmm. We ain't, we ain't, we ain't go in there tripping. We just, let's try the food. Let's try the wings. Let's try the Kool-Aid. Were you like super on point, like moving around like militant because you're thinking like anything could happen. the fry cook could be looking at me. We gotta be on point when we come here. We gotta be on point when we go to Malibu. We gotta be on point when we go to Korea. Life was a groove. You might be in Russia, you gotta be on point. Yeah, but Russia, you're probably good. They was working there too.

59:45Did Black Sam tap in or anything? I think I saw a Marathon comment, right? I know Black Sam from jail. You do? Yeah, Marathon. It's all good? Yeah, he cool. Marathon Burger commented. They said appreciate the review. They say respect or something. I appreciate the review. No, that was good because like, I mean, obviously like a bunch of crazy shit happened at the Long Beach opening. If the food was whack, we would have said the food was whack. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. It would have been a troll for sure if they said this is trash. The bun was crazy. I like that bun. The brand, the sauce, the toppings, the shrimp, the wings, the juice.

1:00:16It was good. If it was whack, we would have said it was whack, but we came there. Y 'all shit hyped right now. That would have been trolling though. If you said it was whack, for sure you would have looked like you were just hating on purpose. But if it was whack, it was whack. Yeah, but it wouldn't have mattered. You still would have looked like you were hating. Thankfully, he was fired. No, it is really good. But also, it's like... And that little blue juice. Smashburger is not the hardest food to make. I feel like most of the smashburgers I had in my life were pretty good. But the attention to detail that Sam puts in it and the quality of the food.

1:00:44I tell everybody, it's a high-quality fast food joint. It's better than Five Guys. Is it like a Wagyu filet mignon hamburger from a five-star restaurant no but if you're at a fast food joint this is top tier fast quality food it was good it was straight so do you see yourself as being kind of past the gang banging part of your life where now you're just a gang member i'm always going to be where i'm from i'm always going to be active but i'm just i'm an adult i'm 35 i got kids like i'm not tripping but if you're tripping we tripping you used to be super super extra tripping um i don't know yeah sometimes I'll meet people and they'll be acting real cool.

1:01:23And then I'll mention them around somebody and they'll be like, well, bro, like. Oh, he's one of them ones. Actually, yeah. And I have seen music videos of you guys that are pretty aggressive. But granted, that was probably like before you got locked up. They still be talking shit in their music. I do, but I'm just like, you know. There's levels to it, you know. He's so burnt out, and I love it for you. But he's so burnt out that he could put the NK in his words in the comments and he don't even think that's aggressive. I don't think he knows that he's putting it in there. No, that's what I'm saying.

1:01:53I don't. It's so indentured that he's just saying it. I've been doing this shit for a lot of years. That's literally how you spell the word to him. Yeah, I mean, when CritMac responds, okay, and it's not okay, like it's something else, I'm assuming he's not really thinking about it. The stream tonight, how does that work? So you sell tickets? No, it's just a stream. And for some reason, they're going to try to do 24 hours. no I'm talking about the oh you're talking about the live show yeah yeah how does that work yeah that's just we got a theater I think it's like 500 tickets or some shit to sell it out and we did it before like three years ago we did a couple actually and uh yeah I mean you don't make that much money if you like price it reasonably like if the tickets are like 40 bucks or whatever you don't make that much but it's just to cover the cost of of yeah I mean it's good for the fan base and everything like that obviously you can do whatever like you can kind of turn it into more like a party you know people Meet and greets.

1:02:49They pay extra. Sell merch. Yeah. You know. Yeah. I got a meet and greet Saturday too. Where at? What? It's not even going to be out until after Saturday. I was excited to hear that and then I got four voting. The silence is like in the jungle. I mean, that's what it is with a Mean Green. You got to like, people are going to be there. People are going to have to go there. You're going to have to publicize it. Yeah, they DMed a lot of people DMed me. They coming. Was that the one with 50 Blue? Yeah. Oh, okay. That's lit for sure. Let's see. Do you even post it on your grammar? Yeah, I post it. Oh, okay.

1:03:24I'm looking for it right now. Yeah. he freaky huh freaky to look for your flyer yeah it ain't in my story oh yeah here it is oh hit up artist for the address so they're moving appropriately need to know damn so Swifty Blue like an honorary Hoover or what no he ain't no Hoover that's my homie though yeah nah he's a asshole for sure but I was always cool with him man he just runs his mouth too much he was cool he called him to the to the news like a couple weeks ago after we had reported on him yeah yeah so no he like he was chill he's the kind of guy where like he'll act like he's your best friend and then he'll be around somebody that don't like you and he just completely changes his tone up and just he's like fake as so i can see why they can't he ain't being fake to me yeah i mean i don't know if the green light is active still no it's not it's not it's not no green light on swifty shout out my nigga swifty Yeah, except for Adams.

1:04:21I might have to green light them on. You down to handle something for me? I don't do illegal activities. Damn. I'm going to have to find somebody else. Sharky is a guy to pull up with wings and possibly the hoes. You feel me? You got hoes? I was more thinking of a grand gesture. Not like you. Maybe back in the day, but not now. I'm just going to pull up with food. Merch. sauce, juice. Your girl, you were with her before prison? I've known her since high school. Oh, shit. Yeah. Did it get more serious, like, around the time you went to prison? Yeah, once we got older type shit. It's probably important to have someone to hold you down in that environment.

1:05:06I just bet, you know, you get older, you want to settle down, try to run in the streets. Yeah. Find someone you want to be with. Yeah. No, that's real shit. This is such a different Sharky than, like, I've seen, like, being interviewed over the years. This is like a very mature incarnate. Am I tripping though? No, you're growing up. Dolls, 35. About to hit 40 soon, Kent. Got to grow up sometime, Ross. What they say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing again. Expecting different results. Were you like just gone off drugs up until you went to prison? I smoked a lot of weed and I used to sip a lot of drink, but I never did know.

1:05:43You didn't do other stuff besides lean? Drugs, drugs. Was it hard to kick lean? You have to kick the cup? I was f***ed up for like four days on my couch. I was f***ed up. And you did this on the outside, not like when you went in? No, I stopped sipping drink a couple years before I went in. Oh, yeah? What was it that was too expensive? Like a motherfucker. Make you too lazy. Just drink and weed and you just. All that shit do is put you to sleep. You just be down and it's not good for you. I'm more on my health shit nowadays. Were you on Suboxone for a while? They got a lot of that in there now.

1:06:16but that's my first time hearing about that shit. You was on Suboxone? Nah. No, because you really don't need Suboxone to kick Kobe. That's to get you to hide. And the feds, they got the Suboxone program. I never heard about that shit. I didn't hear about Spice. Which you might as well do. Suboxone, none of that shit until I got into the feds. This is stress on it still. Well, the problem is it's very easy to get. Then you addicted to that, and that's a whole other monkey on your back, which I guarantee you don't want. You feel me? Because that shit ain't cool. Just drugs. The subs and boxing, that's like a specific thing.

1:06:50They give us in a county jail. If you come in strung out, they give it to you to kick it. But they don't kick it though. They just keep using that motherfucker. I'll take whatever they give me. I'm strung out. That's what I was thinking about. You know what? Give me that shit. What I did like in there was the sleeping meds. Oh, the Seroquel? The brown pills. The brown, they called it brown bombers. I don't know the pharmaceutical name. Seroquel. Maybe someone in the comments can correct us. Them motherfuckers are strong. Them brown pills, they should have you sleep for like 12 hours. Or is it trizadone you're talking about?

1:07:22It could be. I don't know. He's a f***ing almanac over here. I've never done that. Them shits. Them shits. Them shits put you down. But isn't the Seroquel, like, you do enough of it for a long enough time that it, like, fries you permanently? Yeah, that's a strong-ass drug. That's what they say about big meat and shit, right? I mean, yeah. That's like, honestly, bro, back in the day, that was like a 5150. That's like what they would give you in like the mental hospital type shit. That's what it is. Yeah, that's literally what it is. That's a psych drug. It is. People that's crazy to calm them down.

1:07:52A strong, like a sedative. But they put their ass to sleep like for hours. And then you'd be hungry as a m****** starving. Would you ever do the, you seen that dead homies paranormal activity? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I seen you. You went to the Figueroa. Yeah. Would you ever do that shit? Hell yeah. I'm trying to do it. I keep telling you. Ghost hunting. You right here. That's folks in there, huh? Oh, shit. That's right. What's going on, brother? Yeah, you know what I mean? What's going on, man? I like him because I've seen him laugh at a few of my jokes earlier. That's really all I need. You funny, bro.

1:08:24I ain't going to lie to you. Didn't you promote your shit with no jumper, too? Yep, sure did. Y 'all hit me with the post. Josh, shout out to y 'all. Appreciate y 'all. But yeah, Sharky crazy, man. He went to the Hotel Figueroa, bro. You know, the joke's right there self, Adam. You feel me? Hotel Figueroa. You come on. you know perfect perfect bro right so did you see anything that felt haunted it was like weird shit like the sink wouldn't would go on and off out of nowhere the pool was shaped like a casket that's a reach there was a if you look at it if you look at it it's literally shaped as a casket yeah you gotta see this the doors they had a fire drill when we went to the 13th floor but just on the 13th floor so I don't know what that was about what you mean like the alarm bell went off and all the doors closed.

1:09:13Like it was weird. I've been a lot of places y 'all. I'm not going to lie. I've been to the Queen Mary, the Hollywood Roosevelt, all sorts of places, but that hotel, been to the Cecil, the Cecil lush is crazy because it's a homeless shelter now. So they really anti guests, but I'm pulling my strings. I'm going to get us up in there. I need you for that. Yeah. They changed it up because the Cecil was a normal, like it wasn't a normal hotel when I lived downtown, but it was like, it wasn't a homeless shelter. Now it's a shelter, Adam. Basically, with all them demons, they put homeless people that already got their own demons.

1:09:46I mean, the image got so fucked up from that documentary. Yeah, the documentary, Alyssa Lamb. The girl who got killed them. Yeah, they found her in a water tank. They drinking her remains and shit. On top of that, 50 months committed suicide in there. So you know what's some type of energy in there. Paranormal. Yes. But long story short, we never really seen people like us do that shit, let alone gang members. so you know you put a gang member that ain't scared of shit bro it's original lush put it man we gonna get poking there where would you uh yeah where would you do your episode with lush at the cecil that's right off the dribble i'm gonna pretend to be homeless i don't think it'll be that difficult yeah bro it's the next thing coming out the city man y 'all look out for it man you You gotta stay overnight to get the band.

1:10:38You think you can do it, Lesh? Oh, I definitely, you know what? I don't care how many demons they consolidate in that. You feel me? I ain't scared of no ghosts. Do you even believe in that shit? I mean, to an extent, like I know that there's, I know that there's things that I don't understand. I'm intelligent enough to realize that. What about you, Adam? Do you even believe in? Not much of a ghost guy. He don't believe in Nathan, but now. I got a ghost gun. I got a ghost gun. I got you. And a ghost energy drink. Yeah, you feel me? We was in there, Lush, the homie Porno, he was levitating. For real?

1:11:10His name's Porno? Yeah. Come on, wait. Light as a feather, stiff as a board, pause. My nigga Porno. I wanna change my name to that. Yeah, that is an amazing name. I'm Porno, that's fire. You can't take my name, bro, it's too late, you already had a bro. Yeah, you're right, you're right. I'm gonna let you hold that, yeah. You can't take my name, bro. You out of a 21, apparently. Nah, I'm definitely not. He's bigger than me, for sure. I'm for sure bigger than you, But I also heard you be talking to them things, man. So I be chilling. I'm out of the way. Oh, them extracurriculars? I be talking to them hoes, yeah.

1:11:40You got the hush puppy or the slush puppy? I thought he meant Tram. The slush puppy cup, yes, sir. That's hard. What you got in there? Don't matter. My cup is my cup. Worry about your cup. My cup. Shit, so what's your deal? What you mean, what's my deal? I rap, I cook, I do a whole lot of everything. I was aggressive. You feel me? I'm Perry AP, and the P is for porno. I do it all, Jack. I like that. You watch a lot of porn though? No. How'd you get that name? Selling porn throughout the valley. I'm from right here. I'm from Northridge. You feel me? So. How do you sell porn? Like snags? Yeah, bro.

1:12:13When I was growing up, I was selling magazines, DVDs, all that. You feel me? I had it out the trunk. Wow. And long story short, I got it from the homies, Pops. He owned his porn company. You feel me? Vivid? Yeah. No, it wasn't vivid. Oh, caught him slipping on the first guest. No, it wasn't vivid, but we ain't even going to talk about the company. That don't matter. You feel me? I found them niggas at school that wasn't getting no ass and I exploited the fuck out of them niggas, bro. Straight up. You feel me? Oh, you want this? I got it. Give me 20 bucks. You feel me? It's going to cost you 40 at the snow.

1:12:40You feel me? Maybe 50 because you underage. You went to Taft? No, I went to Cleveland. Okay. I mean, I bounced around, but primarily I was at Cleveland. Okay. How would you feel, Adam, if you was in high school and you had to go link with this big black gentleman who just said poor nose in high school? I mean, when I was in high school, it was like the early days of being able to get porn. When did you graduate? 2002. Okay. So, yeah, you graduated, what, five years before me, six years before me? I graduated in 08? Yeah. You feel me? So you remember the day and age when it was real early, you couldn't get porn on your phone?

1:13:13When I was in elementary school and shit, like, we wanted to get porn so bad, but we, like, couldn't go into a porn store or anything. So we would just find it, like. Napster, Kazaa. No, I'm talking about, like, real life. A dude would have like one page from a porno magazine and we'd be like passing it around in school just to look at it. Nah, you was doing more than looking at it. You freaky. That was beating off too. Yeah, I bet. I was like him and six of his homies circling around the image. Look here, man. I ain't got nothing to do with that. I wasn't knowing that. I was just selling it. Hey, I'm not mad.

1:13:43You're doing God's work. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you, porn. So the homie hopped in the whip one day and he was like, bro, you always got porn and miscellaneous shit in the car. I'm going to start calling you porno, bro. I'm like, bro, don't call me that shit, bro. Hey, but did it get a little weird at a certain point when you like learn people's proclivities? Hey, the homie like, he like light skin blowjob videos. Hey, there's a new one. I mean, look, look, look, bro. Look, bro, I'm the type of nigga that each is on. Teyana Trump just dropped. Look here, bro, what you like is what you like.

1:14:09As long as you got some chili for it, we gonna do it. But you're memorizing. You used to take some orders? Oh, God. Okay, bro. I sold a nigga a 400 page book of anime porn. For how much? $750. $750? Bro, that nigga, he wanted him. Sharky, it wasn't you, right? Just to clarify. No, it wasn't him. The homie was Cambodian. I hope it wasn't. The homie was Cambodian. Nah, you for me. $7.50, damn, you was up in high school. Bro, I was taxing niggas on that shit, bro. $40 a video, bro. You want a 400-page book? Damn, I wish I thought of that. I mean, you know. Well, I worked at the grocery store, and one time I stole a carton of cigarettes, and I thought I'd like all my selfies in school.

1:14:46And you smoked them, bitches. I never smoked cigarettes back then, but two problems. number one I stole filterless cigarettes because I didn't know what I was getting which the only person I ever known in my whole life was smoking filterless cigarettes was Sharp? Brick Baby oh yeah Brick would rip the filters off his cheeks but also I brought it to school and I'm thinking I could sell these for like you know if they're like 10 bucks I don't know how cheap they were then but like I would sell it for like half nobody wanted it nobody was going for it it's crazy you say Brick used to rip his cigs my nigga Doe used to rip the front off of every cigarette every single Newport he buy lungs and he ripped the front off that bitch man it just tastes different yeah rest in peace to my nigga Doey I mean imagine if somebody tried to give you a blunt with a filter you'd be like what the hell are you talking about when I didn't know how to twist up one time I had a black and mild and I just yeah and then stuff that worked it hit alright yeah it smoked straight it worked right yeah it smoked straight I remember being in Russia and girls trying to do that with cigarettes like trying to like empty out the tobacco and then like crush weed and put it like that.

1:15:50Ain't it illegal for having weed in Russia? Yeah. But everybody has some weed. Oh yeah, because the basketball player went down out there. Yeah, what's your name? Ain't that shit illegal? But this was like way before that and I was just hanging out with girls who were like partying and shit and they would be hella low-key about weed but everybody has some weed. Yeah, no, it'd be out there but there is definitely considerable penalties like it's not like getting caught out here. That's why when I went to Korea, I didn't bring no weed. Yeah, they tripped. Yeah, I'm I'm not bringing weed to Asia or.

1:16:18No, but see, I brought two zips to Thailand. Yeah. And this was before they had. He's legal in Thailand. But this was before they had the weed shops out there. Oh. I brought two zips to London and then like Puerto Rico, Bahamas, Jamaica. I brought a lot of weed all over the world. And in a lot of the situations, when I look back on it, I'm like, that was insane. Like, what the was I thinking? Yeah. You know, he's crazy. The jankiest spot you got. Japan. What? Oh, yeah. I brought a lot of wax to Japan. Brought or bought? Brought. oh shit you're crazy yeah you're a different type of dude yeah i just didn't think it was that bad at the time 20 years for a joint this was like 2011 dubai korea japan you brought it to dubai no those are the places that i would not bring weed but my craziest shit was in both japan and china you could just smoke weed out in public and the cops like there's so little weed that they don't know what that's that what the smell is and people smoke in china and shit they smoke a lot of weird shit they smoke like all kinds of in america most of the cigarettes kind of smell the same out there there's tons of weird shit they're smoking so like we would be smoking blunts in public and nobody would even look at us twice because the whole the whole country doesn't really know what a backwoods smells like right right uh when i was smoking weed in um and uh in paris i brought some jungle boys everybody was coming up to me Where's that?

1:17:39Where'd you get that? How'd you get that out here? Help me buy some of that. I had some gas when I was out there. But to smoke in China or Japan, that would give me anxiety while I was smoking. Going through customs with that is insane. I ain't never had them problems. I can't lead a country. Yeah, I feel that. We got to get something expunged because we need you on some of these international tours player. Change your perspective. Man, look here. Y 'all figure out a way to do it. Let's do it. I'm down. So, okay, you said at one point to me that you wanted to squash things with me and T-Row. No, I never said that.

1:18:16I think you did. You said, let me help you fix things with you. I asked him to DMs what happened when I was in jail, but we ain't finna talk about that shit. Remember So Tatter Boys, Lesh? Yeah. We got one of the members right there, too. Remember him? That's right. Okay. I see him. I saw him. So, Tab Boys, the other one, I think he would trip you right now. I think they on tour or some shit. Okay, it wasn't as bad. You said, y 'all need to make up already, LOL. That's pretty, like, ambiguous. That's not like, I'm gonna fix it. Yeah, that's not really, like, assuming too much responsibility. Nah, that's just saying this shit went on for too long.

1:18:54Get that shit over with. I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean... Question is is you gonna do it? I already tried to squash it with him. He don't wanna squash it. I just told them what my stipulations were I'm like you need to apologize to me and then we'll do a podcast together and then we'll be passing it yeah niggas is grown ass man we ain't apologizing we can just let bygones be bygones and keep it pushing apology is a lot I need certain stipulations in order to make myself feel alright about it and I can't fight him go let Sopano if I'm shit why you can't fight him you grown cause he got a limp ass noodle for an arm I got a noodle arm you got a noodle arm that's an excuse Well, that's his excuse.

1:19:35He's going to always squabble. What about y 'all just like... You want me to squabble him? All right. What about y 'all talking off cam when nobody's there and there's no influences and it's just like the two of y 'all chopping it up, even if it's over the phone? Yeah, maybe I'll pull up on him. I might just pull up to the podcast. That's probably like realistically one of the best ways. If that's really what Fool's objective is. Just like talk. Do you think that you could arrange that? You got enough pull over there? No. Do you feel like Smack's replacement? No, that's my brother. I'm just adding on to what they got going on.

1:20:08I appreciate the opportunity. It's a power move. Appreciate the opportunity they gave me, and I'm just trying to get in where I fit in. Okay. So, Smack, you think he's going to be there for a while? Because sometimes it feels like they're getting sick of him. That's broke. You know, Naaman T-Rail brought that up, and, you know, they got stuff going on. They're doing good. So, if he told you, like, I want you to replace Smack, You'd be like, okay. You can't do no hypotheticals. I'm just adding on to what they got going on. I appreciate the opportunity. Yeah, every Friday, you know, catch me back on feed.

1:20:45I want to say this is probably like one of the biggest power moves they made in a fat minute, like as far as the new roster additions. Why would you say that? Because I – Mack Watt. Mack Watt was part of it. Heather was part of it. That's what I said in a fat minute. And as far – like Heather was there from the beginning. That's his girl. But like, yeah, as far like MacWap and them, I know they were under the umbrella technically, but they really been their own entity. And they were like just affiliates and all that. Like, that's how I viewed them. And then they kind of just became their own thing or whatever.

1:21:15But I feel like as far as somebody who has, I feel like me and Sharky are similar because like my presence is no jumper. I added a lot like what I brought to the table and like a new perspective and just dedicating myself primarily to that. Like I've sensed that energy from here. Like, you know, I'm focused on, I'm going to be over here. This is how, what's the best thing I can do to build my repertoire and content over? That's the way I feel about over here. You feel me? So that's why I feel like there's similarities. So I feel like that is a power move when you got someone that already has their own thing and their own reputation, but they can, yeah, I'm not trying to glaze, but I feel like it's a big move for, for back on fig and Sharky.

1:21:50It makes sense for both parties. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Yeah. Podcasting is fun. It's cool. Seems like it's popping now. gotta stay productive stay positive i like it it's fun are you associated with the mexican restaurant chain that shit gas you tried that shit before uh i used to drink at sharky in manhattan yes that shit oh my god so one night i was over there they got this shark drink with the little toy shark in it oh my i didn't think that shit was strong so i drank like three of them blacked out oh yeah i used to be blacking out down there a lot the manhattan beach that That's just cool.

1:22:27That's just playing. Now I live in the valley and they got Sharky's like kind of a lot of places, but it's just food. That's different though, right? Or is that the same? I don't know. I think it's the same. That's not the same chain. It's just weird that some of them are like a nightclub. Like they would be selling sections and shit. Like it was. The one in Manhattan Beach is like special. It is, right? It's like a flagship get wasted location. Yeah. And you could like, they have like a jukebox and they have like Tupac songs with cuss words on there. I don't think other Sharky's have that. They're a little more corporate.

1:22:57interesting um have you do you have any kind of like preoccupation with sharks or not uh no i got the name was in high school i was from a little clique called uh beach boys the beach that's hard some people from like long beach compton la and then like we like through parties and shit like well fun shit do you used to listen to the beach boys everybody surfing so hard wouldn't it be nice what did Jackie Chan say in Rush Hour Beach Boys great American music I watched a Beach Boys documentary recently Brian Wilson is the man amazing artist maybe Hulu something like that it was really really good okay so now that you're out here free man I'm happy that you're out here living life What are your big goals that you want to check off over the next year or two?

1:23:52Just try to get established in this new little world. Podcast more, food content, food reviews, management. I want to get into that. I'm starting that. I got a couple artists right now. Just slowly exit out the music and gravitate towards the business side. Play more of like behind the scenes and that stuff. and I think it's more easier and more fun to navigate with the behind the scenes and all that kind of stuff. So you're kind of over the actual rapping? Are you still rapping a little bit? I like it, but it's just not fun. When you're younger, it's fun. Everybody get the music together. But if my friends ask me for a verse, I'll do it.

1:24:45But I'm not going to wake up and be like, oh, I got to go to the studio. More it's like, oh, I got to go to this food festival. I got to get these artists, these influencers on the podcast on Friday. I got to do this. I got to do that. I got to. But there was a time, though, you had serious momentum with the music. You know what I mean? And then obviously I know that there's legal situations that transpired that literally physically took you away from the booth. But that's really the only thing. And I know there's also label interest from different things. and that like you know but i i find it hard to believe that you really don't have any hunger left as a rapper bro because you was dope i mean like when we when we're in the group we had an offer from atlantic but they took it away because my homie was about to go to the prison and um when i was when i was doing it it was fun because i had all the bread like i could do whatever i one i had a budget but now it's like you know it's expensive studio time beats music videos if i had a label that we could you know figure out some kind of business deal do something i would definitely do it but just like just to do it to do it like i don't it's not like like i said i don't want to i don't wake them down i need to hit the booth or i don't know if people realize the extent to which people just like the the bubble has popped on being a rapper so much over the last 10 years in the sense that like every the other day i was watching like a interview with a rapper and he was like listing off to the person who's interviewing all these other things that he's doing business wise and he was like yeah because you know you ain't really gonna make no money from music and i'm as i'm listening to say that i'm like it's insane that people know that now because the everybody thought that rappers were all riches for so long and everybody thought that becoming a rapper was how you're going to be able to because like think about us doing music streams in 2017 2018 every day hundreds hundreds hundreds of people who wanted us to listen to our music that shit does not exist the way that it used to like people have a much more realistic perspective on how much but now they all think that every streamer is super rich that's like the new thing that people have like a fake idea of how profitable it is i think that's like the new wave and then like with the music too all the streaming platforms and people don't understand like labels aren't giving you a million dollar advance no more you'll be lucky to get 100 bands super lucky people are signing for 10s 15s 20s and the amount of work you have to put in and the money you have to spend to even recoup their money then for you to get in the profit margin is just like if you don't get that breakout hit it's like it's really you have to do other stuff you have to dip into other ventures you have to do the merge you have to do the content people don't understand how much work and how many other things you have to do as an artist nowadays to make yourself profitable and to get you to that next level and everybody thinks that you're going to be able to become a rapper and you're going to start making money and then you're going to take that money and you're going to fund the rest of your career and you're just going to keep making money and funding your career like that and that is so not how it works for the most part like the same way that if you were to start a restaurant you would probably need like a couple hundred grand to be able to get the spot outfit the restaurant make it look cool buy all the supplies take care of payroll renovations pay a graphic designer to come up with everything you know and i saw a tweet today where somebody was like if you are a rapper and you want to make it in the rap game you need a quarter million dollars just to figure out if you have a chance yeah i was gonna say that's if you suck just to get yourself into enough people's eyes that they could kind of even like you could even start to have an idea of like oh are people gonna latch on to my shit think about that like that that that is not the rap dream that we were sold on the rap dream we were sold was you you have like five grand maybe from the streets and then you could just be a rapper and you're just gonna make a ton of money and you'll be fine but what you do again from rapping is social equity and influence like if you have a big record that's popular that but that's why you're saying you have to capitalize off your momentum and off your popularity if you're not branching off into other ventures and slowly rely on the music it's not going to get you nowhere at least starting off here for sure i feel like the model that a lot of platforms like mine or joe budden or whatever have which is basically like hey if i could get 10 000 of my fans to pay me five bucks a month that is so much more valuable than just making money from streaming or youtube ads or whatever and like uh i think that is the model that i would love to see more rappers take serious like a rapper who comes out and has motion and people are really with him and he says yo to my fans i don't want to sign to a label but you could like be a part of this or like if you if you subscribe to my patreon or my youtube members or whatever just the five bucks a month or whatever like i'll give you early access to my music and i'll give you incentivize it like all this shit or whatever but i would way rather have that kind of fan base than have to constantly worry about like if i'm going to be able to make whatever from from streaming or whatever i think the next dope rapper should try to basically like crowdsource his way into the game you know that's like what the wrestles model has been for the past several years but but ultimately also is if you're gonna do that you have to give them more than just music regardless it'll be additional it's not gonna just be based on it's very rare that someone could be like playboy cardi and it's just like oh the mystique of my music and i just like a vampire i don't think that even i don't think that's even possible anymore damn near not i was like a totally different time i think that was kind of like the end of that too pretty much i don't really see that happening too much but a lot of rappers like you know i was just watching the interview with that kid fake mink.

1:30:40And it's like, he's got aura image, you know, it's like, he's not doing interviews. It's just, he seems cool as. No. And there's a few, there's a few like artists like that, but that's, that's kind of rare. And then you have some, so a lot of people have some type of cosine, but if you seem like you're someone who's just hanging out on the internet, just like everybody else all day, looking at Tik TOKs and YouTube and shit, I just feel like that is so profoundly uncool to the fan base that you're just not going to be able to cultivate the aura that you need as an artist. artist if you're just constantly putting yourself out there in a way that makes you too accessible either way all right this is phenomenal we do got that we do got an album too though i forgot fig side records oh yeah my new click that's the uh i'm about to get this tag down with my home new jello shit okay we got this shit too hell yeah he's managing that's crazy too speaking of music we uh we were supposed to bend drop this but we couldn't get it finished before i went in but we dropped the deluxe version of rush hour we got um we got all the joints we did with trey wade and we got new stuff on there all the new yes up there what oh somebody crossed you out on the basketball i'm the only one on the basketball who you think did it you can't tell oh poke is triggered because the rolling 90s crossing on the basketball bro that's why we got to get the best we specifically tell people to not uh we got to stop having that people can tag because there's hella shit whacked out on this now yeah they're whacking this whole thing now they don't like you bro i didn't answer nobody bro sorry about that poke that's not cool we ain't gonna whack nobody out but we're gonna put some stickers on them oh that's a great idea it's definitely it's already a war zone up there anyway at this point we gotta take these down He's taking this ball with us.

1:32:32Yeah. Shit. He might. All right. Bro, nigga's taking the ball with us, bro. That's going. Nah, that's out of here. All right. I don't know. I mean, the basketballs, I feel like they're like already like. The basketballs. They're so filled up. Nobody else but the hungry, bro. That shit. That's part of being a Hoover is people want to wipe you out, I guess, right?

1:32:53A lot of times I don't see what they're doing. Not nobody. somebody brings a marker if anything we would have filmed that and put it on Instagram right or something like that hit this gang violence yeah and Polk has done a lot of that damn how you know Adam I've seen some clips some clips you've seen active clips of him performing gang violence He got footage. Yeah. When you have Rolex chains, like the one Poke you had before, that's the biggest Rolex chain in LA history. Legendary. I bet you ain't never forget about that one. No. No. Really gang. Lush, I got a bone to pick with you, bro. Talk about it.

1:33:38Yo, let's go. Hey, yo. I be DMing you, bro. You don't be hit, be back. Oh, fuck, I ain't seen. That's fake love, man. That's that fake love, bro. Nah, nah. I'm like the least janky in this building, to be honest. I'm probably like your - The least janky. You comment on that address. Most likely to promise you something and then leave you outside with a cake. Because I'm making... We're not doing that. I'm literally making very strong efforts to get people that I believe in on. I'm going to say that. Man, fuck with me, man. I think you will fuck my sound a lot. My name's Soprano, YSG. I'm from New York.

1:34:14And what, you guys have a whole tape together or what? Yeah, I should have dropped today or tomorrow. How'd you guys get locked in? I met bro in like 2018, 2019. And then I came over here, I was over here 2020, and then we've just been doing our thing ever since. I was really pushing him to do music a lot more. He was like, I'm over it, and I'm with it. And then it kind of just made sense at the time, so we just started going crazy, and then within like six months we were on here. What part of New York? Brooklyn. Okay. What part of Brooklyn? Bed-Stuy. Madison, Do or Die. Bed-Stuy, Do or Die. Madison, No Street.

1:34:48What's over there? Everything. What games is over there? what gang's on there? It's a groovy situation. Every gang. Is it a groovy situation? Yeah. You funny as hell. Yeah, it's a lot of us over there. We're all assuming that's how you're met, right? Groove is in the heart. Well, I guess we. Hey, why has nobody from Hoover sampled Groove is in the heart by D? Like such a... And I know y 'all... Come on, chill, F. We gonna do it. We gonna get to it, bro. We just started. You feel me, F? How about an entire album of like Groove-related puns? Well, they already sampled. They got... That might be corny.

1:35:20Yeah, for sure. Ain't you on the one with that sample of the irresistible groove? Or the, let this groove. I know that's Treyway and Threat. That's Treyway. I thought he was on there. Yeah, I know it's Treyway and Threat on there. They've been flipping the groove samples. Love it, by the way. Here for it. For sure. Yo, Shaggy, appreciate you pulling up, dog. For real. Solid man right here. It's lit. I think everything's going to be going good. I realize you are on an op pod, but that's okay by me. Is it an op pod? They've declared themselves ops. So we can't, we gotta change the, you feel me? We're trying to change it, man.

1:35:58There's some stubborn people over there. But I mean... Appreciate NoJumper for having us. Catch me back on Fig on Fridays. Thank you, Adam. Lunch. All right, y 'all. Big side records. You already know. You already know. No walk-ons. Let's go. Come on now.