Spencer Pratt on His Plan to Fix LA as Mayor, Rollin 60s Cookouts, The Homeless Problem & More

8 Jun 2026 · 54 min · 22 chapters

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In short

Spencer Pratt, a Los Angeles mayoral candidate, argues LA’s homelessness and drug crisis is driven by corruption, grifting, and non-enforcement of existing laws. He proposes involuntary treatment pathways, federal support, and a transparent, accountable city budget. He also claims LA’s public spending on areas like MacArthur Park and infrastructure is misallocated, and he calls for designated zones for certain youth activities (graffiti/street takeovers) to protect small businesses.

Guest backgrounds

Spencer Pratt is a former reality TV figure and longtime LA resident. The episode is hosted by No Jumper; no other guest is clearly identified in the transcript.

Key claims

Mayor Karen Bass allegedly spent $400M to house about 1,400 people via developers, but Pratt says it’s a scam that kicks people out and doesn’t treat addiction. He says most homeless people are out-of-state and are brought in by “scam rehabs,” and he cites SB 43 for forced treatment (5150/72-hour/42-day/conservatorship). He claims fentanyl/super-meth are killing youth and that LA’s needle distribution is enabling drug dealing.

Notable examples

MacArthur Park “fences” instead of treatment; taxpayers paying for needles that a PATH worker allegedly sold drugs with; neighborhood incidents where police and activists couldn’t remove a homeless person until a fire-zone technicality; claims of pothole-contract cancellation and inflated vendor pricing (e.g., “$50k refrigerators,” “$250k doors”).

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Chapters

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Spencer's Motivation for Running

0:45 to 2:44

Spencer discusses his motivations for running for mayor and his belief in exposing corruption.

“So I did it right just to oppose to be the opposition.”

Addressing the Homeless Crisis

2:44 to 4:25

Spencer outlines his views on homelessness in LA, detailing systemic issues and his proposed solutions.

“The people that, you know, just right now, last week, it's came out, you know, we pay as taxpayers.”

Critique of Current Leadership

4:25 to 5:46

Discussion about the failures of Mayor Karen Bass and the misallocation of funds.

“We are light years from, yeah, we always had homeless people.”

Plans for Recovery and Support

5:46 to 8:24

Spencer shares his plans for recovery programs and how to support homeless individuals effectively.

“Starts with a 5150 hold, goes to a 72 hour hold, can go to a 42 day hold.”

Infrastructure and Investment in LA

8:24 to 10:10

Discussion on the need for infrastructure improvement and attracting investment to LA.

“So why I think I have so much support across the country is because people want somebody to step in and say, the community, the voters, the constituents, we're done with this.”

Community Concerns and Public Safety

10:10 to 12:31

Addressing community concerns about public safety and the impact of crime in neighborhoods.

“There's people that love the city, but we've just let the city take over and just be like, nah, you have to live like this and pay up, pay up, tax, tax, tax.”

Addressing Crime and Community Safety

14:00 to 16:40

Learn about the issues of crime in LA and proposed solutions for community safety.

“No, there's people I've talked to that have been robbed in their house three times.”

Engaging with Communities and Local Leaders

16:40 to 19:20

Discover how community engagement and supporting local leaders can improve neighborhoods.

“We want people making good, but we just got to have boxes where these check.”

Combating the Drug Epidemic

19:20 to 23:25

Explore the severity of the drug crisis in LA and strategies for combating addiction.

“Cause we got to stop at the youth from these people getting on drugs.”

Innovative Solutions for Treatment and Recovery

23:25 to 28:00

Learn about innovative plans for treatment facilities and job training for recovering individuals.

“I'm planning to be the mayor for eight years.”
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The Economic Impact of LA's Homelessness Crisis

28:00 to 29:24

Spencer Pratt discusses the effects of homelessness on LA's economy and businesses.

“They don't want to build anything in LA anymore because out front of it, they know this investment is taken.”

The Decline of Hollywood and Its Creators

29:24 to 31:08

Pratt emphasizes the decline of Hollywood and its impact on local artists.

A Shift in Opportunities for Young People

31:08 to 31:44

Pratt reflects on changing career opportunities for young people in LA.

“But my point is, we need to have more opportunities.”

Critique of Current Political Leadership in LA

31:44 to 33:58

Pratt critiques the current mayor's spending and policies regarding homelessness.

“So we need the only way to make more things affordable is put more money in your pocket.”

Personal Reflection on Financial Decisions

33:58 to 35:49

Pratt shares insights on his past financial decisions and their implications.

“It's not even fair to hold you accountable to that, in my opinion.”

Understanding Spencer's Political Identity

35:49 to 37:36

Pratt discusses how his personal history shapes his political views and identity.

“Like anything you can think of, I've like tried that hustle.”

Gun Ownership and Safety in Los Angeles

37:36 to 41:41

Pratt addresses the challenges of gun ownership and safety concerns in LA.

“So actually, as mayor, I'll be exposing his fraud with our tax money.”

Addressing Safety Concerns in LA Schools

42:00 to 43:16

Learn about the plans for improving safety in schools and the community.

“And I feel like that is one thing that is just it's hard to justify from our perspective because it's the city feels so dangerous.”

The Drug Addiction Crisis: Causes and Solutions

43:16 to 45:52

Explore the complex nature of drug addiction and potential solutions.

“I know we both know like five or six kids that grew up within two within a half mile of of 26th Street in Santa Monica that are all dead from overdoses and things of that nature.”

The Role of Law Enforcement in Drug Issues

45:52 to 47:46

Discussion on law enforcement's effectiveness in tackling drug problems.

“Do you feel like there is any progress made in the recent MacArthur Park operation?”

Spencer's Vision for City Engagement

47:46 to 48:58

Hear Spencer's thoughts on civic duty and the importance of voting.

“lose everything, your parents, you look to God, you're like, why?”

Spencer's Personal Commitment to Change

48:58 to 51:43

Insights into Spencer's motivations and the personal stakes of his campaign.

“I think from the experience I have in this journey, my close friends who love me, people don't even vote.”
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Transcript

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0:00No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and today we're very, very excited to bring you a former high school classmate of Lush. Elementary. Elementary and current mayoral candidate for the great city of Los Angeles, Spencer Pratt. Thank you guys for having me. Yeah, man, it's amazing to have you here. It's been pretty crazy seeing you just rise up and garner so much attention in such a short period of time for your aspirations for the city, man. Well, I only set out on this mission to expose corruption for my own community. I didn't actually think I would end up being the mayor of L.A., which it looks like is God's plan.

0:36I just wanted to have a bigger platform because I knew she would get reelected no matter what after letting my neighbors burn alive. So I just nobody was going to run against her. So I did it right just to oppose to be the opposition. And then what I've now discovered is speaking the truth is so powerful across the whole country. People just resonate because I hate politicians. I'm not trying to be connected to any political party or any of these people. I just want that truth and corruption to stop. Yeah. And from my perspective, even the most hardcore Democrats that I know, it seems like they are very intently weighing the pros and cons of Spencer Pratt being the mayor of Los Angeles.

1:17because I feel like the state of LA and in particular, the homelessness crisis has just driven a lot of people to the brink and they're looking for any possible change of pace and you are presenting change and, and a lot of people are very, very excited about it. Yeah. I had lunch with Biden's, the biggest donor in the democratic party in the whole game on Sunday. She said I was the first, you know, technically I'm not either, but she, she said to me when I heard her, you're the first non-democrat that's ever opened in my house and she's already maxed out like backing me like so i have the you know when they say oh spitzer how are you going to beat the democratic machine the actual people pulling the levers maybe not the the party brand right now but the people on the ground with the write the checks the people in the media these people all back me because i have a common sense message and they know i'm not going to do any of this you know national politics We need somebody who just cares about Los Angeles, the streets, the drug addicts living all over the street.

2:18They're laundering billions of dollars to increase the people living on our street. They don't want to stop this. They say we need more beds, but anybody knows anything about addiction. You could have an empty bed, but you don't care about that bed. You want to get high. Get the Fenty, get the super meth. You're not trying to see where the empty$100 ,000 bed is. Is that the pharmaceutical industry you're talking about primarily? I mean, they're all connected because everyone's profiting. The people that, you know, just right now, last week, it's came out, you know, we pay as taxpayers. We pay for all the needles that they're giving out MacArthur Park.

2:54So, is that needle company? Who are they? I don't know. I'm just saying there's a lot of people connected. The bigger scheme, though, is the real estate developers. They're the ones that do the housing for the, you know, operation. Section 8 and all that? That's a whole other box. But for the homeless, it's inside safe is what Mayor Karen Bass. So last year, she spent$400 million to house. When I say house, we don't even know. This is her number. 1 ,400 people. So with that$400 million, she gives it to developers. So they go buy buildings that should be$250 a square foot. It's$1 ,000 a square foot.

3:33Then they spend five years redoing the building. Oh, it needs a new. Everybody's getting kicked. it's like the mafia. I keep joking, like back in the day, Gotti and these people wouldn't even believe the scam that LA is doing with our tax money. Jimmy Hoffa would be proud. I mean, they would just be shook. It's more than the cartels. It's more money,$24 billion in California, but it's all run out of LA. So yeah. I mean, that's probably one of the biggest criticisms I see of you is that you're capable of like naming the problems, but that you don't actually have that much experience in terms of governing and that in reality, a lot of the same regulation and bullshit that Karen Bass has to deal with is stuff that you're going to have to be able to deal with realistically as well.

4:16Do you think that she's just so corrupt that we have like a tainted idea of what it's going to take to get our city back on track? A hundred percent, because what people have just accepted, like I've lived in LA my whole life. This is not LA. We are light years from, yeah, we always had homeless people. That's society. We have created a drug addiction complex in L.A. because we don't require treatment. When you're naked in front of kids at the park or in front of schools, when I'm mayor, I can enforce the laws we have. And I will remove you from being naked, doing whatever you're doing in front of kids.

4:53These moms, why I'm getting elected, it's a wrap, is because moms are done with the naked drug addicts having sex. the amount of videos I can't post because my account will get deleted of just people having sex on sidewalks in front of kids. Street people of Los Angeles is doing the work for you. I mean, he can't even post what, what's really like it. I'm telling you when my DMS, I can't even open them. It's just like, it's so gnarly. Like Jesus Christ. So no, we have laws. They're choosing not to enforce them because they're deep into an ideology where, Oh, you can't, they're experiencing homelessness.

5:28They can live there. No, we need to use this 400 million plus that we have and get these people treatment, medical treatment. And with SB 43, the state law, if you can't manage yourself, you're banging your head through a glass window, naked, jerking off, doing whatever you're doing, we can take you legally and put you into treatment. Starts with a 5150 hold, goes to a 72 hour hold, can go to a 42 day hold. It can go to a one year conservatorship. They'll come back. Where are you going to put all these people, Spencer? Well, you go to the federal government and you say, hello, I would like some support here.

6:03The resources you have across the country. There's medical facilities all over the country. If we have to, takes people to a different medical facility, we'll find it. We're just not going to let them die on the street anymore. This idea that we just have to accept this. That's the empathetic choice is that we should just let these people rot away in public. That's what liberals want because that somehow embraces like freedom? You know, I won't say liberals. I think the socialists, the DSA have hijacked the liberal democratic party. I think Democrats that support me care about people. They don't want them to die on the street and they paid their tax money expecting these people.

6:41They put an office to get these people off the street with seven people dying in the street in their own feces a day. We use Narcan all day long using our firefighter, our money resources to let people oh die oh d die maybe and then you know this cycle that needs to stop and that's why as mayor when people say he doesn't have the plan no you're voting for me to say enough of this we're stopping this we're gonna find the support these people need not to mention over 60 percent of these people are not from california you know why they've been brought in here by scam rehabs medicaid hustles these ngos a lot of these people once you get them sober for a minute they're like can you get me back to Oklahoma.

7:23Like I'm stuck. I got a cousin. You can actually, and there's been success, private people do this where you can get these people home. Cause if you're an addict, one of the hardest things about recovery is you need support. You need community. You need people that you trust that care about you. The other problem with it being an addict is people give up on you. Cause it's like enough is enough is enough. And they let you go, but we can come in, help this people. And then, you know, I've talked to a lot of straight up billionaires that would finance scholarships for like your uncle back in Missouri, break you off to like, here's some money.

7:57We're sending your nephew back to you. Incentivize them. Yeah, like to give you support and resources to help you help like a family member or a friend and not just give it all one lump sum. So then they take it, but like break it off. That was one very big billionaire was like, I would love to do a program like that. so that we just need to find you know that's my energy we gotta find a change these people i'm running against will tell you they need more beds now we know we're gonna get more beds but they need to be able to sleep in the bed right what about like neighboring municipalities like santa monica which has its own infrastructure its own mayor but they have been basically allowing homeless people to colonize their city for the past 50 years and stuff like that is there like plans that work with the other neighboring municipalities.

8:48So why I think I have so much support across the country is because people want somebody to step in and say, the community, the voters, the constituents, we're done with this. And by doing that, other neighborhoods, like other cities, Santa Monica, their citizens are like, if Spencer can come in LA and clean it up and get people help, show them the working model, and I think it'll inspire, because people forget whether they're Republicans Americans are dumb. They all work for us. We are paying so much money for these people's salaries to fail us. So we need to show like, like somebody like me get in and say, we're done with this.

9:27And then other people are like, he did it. Why is LA did it? Like my goal is to turn downtown LA into the most popping city in the history of the world. And you know how you do that? Because I've met with realistically 30 billionaires that tell me we want to invest in LA. We want to build affordable housing. We want to build mid-level housing. We want to build top tier housing, but we can't because the city blocks us because they just want to put homeless scams into this money and they're not. So the reality is you say we're done with this. The money's going to come into LA. We're going to build again.

10:03There's no cranes in LA. When I was growing up, there was cranes everywhere. I haven't seen a crane in realistically like four years. Like we need to have LA be like to buy the people. There's creatives here. There's people that love the city, but we've just let the city take over and just be like, nah, you have to live like this and pay up, pay up, tax, tax, tax. I keep saying, you know, cause people are all hyped on the socialist. They want to give me money. They're going to run out of money to give you because these people were taxing. They're leaving 50 ,000 a year are leaving LA. These are the people we're taxing.

10:35I'm Robin Hood. I'm coming in. I'm going to, we're already getting taxed, but I'm going to make sure this tax money that's being stolen by other rich people and put in their little scams to increase problems. I'm going to get that money. And the way I'll be a successful mayor is accountability and transparency. We need to know where every dollar goes, not these confusing dashboards. Like my eight-year-old needs to be able to go on a different version of the government site for kids. And it should be laid out every dollar, the$15 billion budget, You can spend two days on it with cartoons and figure out.

11:08And that way we can all hold these people accountable. Why you spend, you know, I go to the fire stations. They're charging 50 grand for refrigerators. The city may like, you know, if the fire station refrigerator goes down, there's only one vendor that can come in. It's mafia stuff. We need to know the firefighter doors that open up$250 ,000 a door. They're like, this door is not 250 ,000. That's a racket. Yeah, there's a racket going on in the city, whether it's trash, whether I just met with, why do we have so many potholes all over the city? Why don't we do the streets? Because when Mayor Bass first got in, she canceled an over 130 year contract.

11:47It's a federal contract. These independent truckers, it was like 82 of these family business passed down generations. I met them all in South Central. They told me the whole game. She came in, canceled it, took that$100 million. It's for our infrastructure. put it into the homeless scam. So that's why they used to do 300 miles of roads fixing the potholes. She does like 90 now. Well, it seems like there's been a big misappropriation of funds. Like even like that$4 million that she got to reinvigorate MacArthur Park and clean it up. I don't, just to build fences, like that doesn't make it$4 million to build fences.

12:24That$4 million should go to help recovery treatment for the people that are living in the park, dying on fentanyl. We don't need fences. We need to get these everything's fences and putting plants on the sidewalk. All like Bush. No, these people need help. Like addicts need help. They don't need fences. It's not going to change. They'll climb the fence. We just spent four million dollars for him to climb a fence. So, you know, I feel like I've actually seen in my neighborhood that a lot of my neighbors have become radicalized potential Spencer voters on behalf of just the fact that a homeless dude just moved into our neighborhood.

13:01and just posted up right in front of my gate and just managed to live there for like two weeks. People called the cops over and over and the cops would come. They would sit and they would basically like have community activists come. They would give the guy food, supplies, et cetera. So all of a sudden he's super comfortable posted up in this neighborhood. He's yelling at parents who are walking their kids and stuff. He yelled at this mom who had a baby. All of a sudden now I'm in the WhatsApp group with the whole neighborhood. And finally they were able to remove them because of a technicality that it's like a high risk fire zone.

13:34But I think like so many of my neighbors just saw this and just realized how incompetent the city is. And when you talk to the cops, you realize how handcuffed they feel in these situations. And they wish that they could be a little bit more aggressive, but they feel like they just can't do anything without getting in trouble or violating some kind of law at this point. So, and you combine that with the fact that my neighborhood has had like a huge amount of burglaries going on, people breaking into houses and stuff. It feels like even just regular Los Angeles citizens are just getting unbelievably fed up.

14:05No, there's people I've talked to that have been robbed in their house three times. They're putting signs out like nothing left on the front yard because criminals, this is like Disneyland. Now you can do anything you want in LA and get away with it. When I was growing up in LA, obviously there's crime and everything, but I was concerned about throwing something out a window like i would be like littering i'm gonna hit with the thing you know there was just that mindset now you can just like i'm not saying there aren't great artists you know i don't i have no problem trickster family friend great graffiti but now you can literally just do any any you can spray paint on anything in front of a there's nothing we know some of these graffiti artists and they are not worried they talk about the 80s back when they used to prosecute this kind of thing like that was the the the craziest thing imaginable because now we're in the golden days where nobody gets prosecuted for graffiti anymore and i'm not like i just feel like we need to set up areas like how do you fix this we need to have there's a lot of property in los angeles graffiti designated zones where if you're doing a dope piece you get you know maybe you could beat it and almost have like a level where if it's bad you could catch a misdemeanor you know but We need to, for instance, street race, street takeovers.

15:21We need to designate places where, you know, the youth who feels inspired want to make TikToks and do the thing. But it can't be where small businesses are getting destroyed. And these people forget they think they're just going against like the cops. You're hurting these communities, small businesses, mom and pop shops making it not safe. So we need to have like, for instance, the other day, I don't know, some metal, I don't know if it's metal or anarchy or hardcore. Dead City Punks. Yeah, like there should be a place. And as a mayor, I'll find a dope spot, whether it's in a riverbed where we give you like you want to do this thing.

15:56Here's your spot. And we coordinate it and give you the opportunity to have city property. But not where, you know, hardworking moms and nurses are trying to get up in the morning. Like we have to, as a society, respect everybody, but also work with some people who want to, you know, get wild and mosh and bang each other in the head. but give them that opportunity, but not just waiting until that night, hit them with the pepper balls. But we got to, you know, as a mayor, I want to work with these types of people in the society and figure out like. Cause they're really a response to the lack of resources.

16:29Those things wouldn't even happen if they were, had a designated area, this never would even come to fruition. Exactly. So I got to be the mayor that works with all types of the city to make it. Cause we want dope music. We want artists. We want creators. We want people making good, but we just got to have boxes where these check. And it's back to what you're saying about your neighborhood. One of my opponents, I have mom sending me the emails who's running the councilman of ramen. They had a, like a perv living on their street all summer, looking in on the windows are like moms and kids. They kept on telling the councilman saying nothing we could do about it.

17:08I got to sell the emails, blah, blah. So these parents got together and they figure out that this person is as broke parole is a sex offender on the run living on their block in front of all their kids in the windows. They tracked down the parole officer from Riverside. That person is now in prison because they were a straight sex offender that the city council woman who's running for mayor was just nothing we could do. Like, I'm going to be the mayor that talks to the constituents. Like, I don't ever want to be in the office in City Hall. I want to be the voice because that's all I got. Be like, what's your experience?

17:40I'm a fighter for the truth now because you burn my life down, my house, my parents' house down, my neighbors. You put the Spencer these people think they know is not who they know. January 7th made a new version of me. And I just want to be the mayor that fights for communities and all the communities I go to. I hear the same thing. No matter, you know, people go, he's only here. I'm everywhere. A lot of communities don't want to post because of retaliation because they're scared. their city council member who already is not listening to them or the mayor's like oh you know retaliation the city of LA in politics and it's for real it's like when the fire chief told the truth she got fired they really come after people so what they keep telling me is what they say the city council members ignore them the mayor ignores them to be a successful mayor I just need to be the voice of these people because if I get elected it's the people that put me in I went against the full machine and that's my whole duty is to be like i'm gonna be out here in these streets with the people have you been cultivating relationships with the constituents in like the some of those other districts like in south la and east la and places like that that are kind of further away from where you typically be at yeah i just had a a cookout on 10th in south central with the rolling 60s so you know they back me you know i think they're going to the voter polls.

19:00I'm going to the jungle on Saturday, even though the jungle is not what we think it is anymore. It's ever since. It's becoming a little bit gentrified. It's, you know, it's a little nicer, but I think some of the OGs are coming through because these are community leaders. As much as people think like gang, gang, the reality is these people know how the cities failed them. And the community needs a mayor that like gets in at the ground level. Cause we got to stop at the youth from these people getting on drugs. I had this lady, this mom come up to me crying in South Central because my daughter's not homeless.

19:30I love her. She's got a home, but she's on skid row right now, addicted to meth, but she's not homeless. I hate when they say these people are homeless. So here we go back to my thing. It's a community issue. There's a, there are a lot of people from out of state, but a lot of people in the city are now, people don't get how crazy fentanyl is and super meth. These aren't drugs that aren't like drugs. We grew up, This is like scientific, mad, mad. And even now they have like synthetic drugs. New York Times actually dropped a big piece about it today that are like 10 times more powerful than fentanyl.

20:04And they're coming up with new drugs by the day that are able to skirt around regulations, whatever. As soon as you tell China that they can't process fentanyl the same way, they're going to find another way to do it. So that crisis seems like it's only going to get worse. 100%. And as mayor, they're like, oh, you can do this. we need to work with the DEA and to really go after these drugs that kill people. You know, these drugs kill people. I know people are like, oh, I love drugs, they're cool. Yeah, but that Xanax you thought you were taking is going to have Fendon, you're dead. Like the amount of just kids that I've talked to, their parents that are dead because they got Xanax or Narco off of Snapchat and are dead at 15 because they were just wanting to experiment.

20:43They thought they were just going to get a little warm and fuzzy and are dead. So that's what people like, oh, he's like anti-drug. No, I'm anti getting you dead. Like, like that's what people need to wake up. These are not the drugs you get high off anymore. These are the drugs that kill you and your friends and your loved one, your little sister, your nephew. So we need to work with the DEA, get them out here and go after these cartels that do not care about killing us Angelenos. Yeah. Do you have a specific plan for Figueroa? Because I know that at least on this podcast, we're like pretty concerned about the prostitution epidemic.

21:17makeup you got to give it to karen bass that she has set up a lot of cameras facial recognition around there we're actually friends with this guy smack who worked directly with her to help take down some of the gangs in that area who've been dealing with child prostitution and stuff like that is that something that you have a specific plan for for me if you're selling your body you have an addiction problem so nine 99 of the time over there for sure so we got substance abuse or otherwise so my my heart is helping addicts get these people on a path where they don't need to sell themselves for their addiction so it's difficult because now with the new state law you can't even if it's a minor and it's clear you can't just be like hey you're a minor being trafficked that's how crazy our laws are but we need to again work with the community leaders figure out how we get to these people and offer them these people want treatment they just don't wants what's offered to them, which is a cell square box with scary people in a prison-like structure.

22:18That's why my plan, working with the billionaires and the federal government, building a beautiful place in nature on the federal land with trees that actually looks like somewhere you show, hey, ma 'am, we can get you out here. Three meals a day. We have a chef. They got sound bowls and yoga. And, you know, we need to treat these people like if you're a rich celebrity going to a Malibu treatment. Is that tangible? Like, is there a way to execute that financially? I met with a billionaire, quote unquote, like fact, like they already put 300 million into a place in New York just as like a family.

22:54He offered me 500 million dollars to help people. The thing is, these billionaires want to make sure it's helping people because right now everyone's just grifting and scamming. Not to mention our current state and our current leadership has a terrible relationship with the federal government. I'm going to work with Democrats, Republicans, however we help people. That means going to Washington and saying, this is how much it costs right now to have people dying on the street is what we're paying. This is how much it's going to cost to get these people on your federal land. Here's the plan. Working with FEMA and HUD.

23:28You know, this is not an overnight. I'm planning to be the mayor for eight years. But we got to build out a structure where we have this place where they go. We're already spending the money. This idea that we've spent$24 billion in California to increase it. So why can't we say we're done getting scammed? Let's put this into a real. And then when you get sober, we also have to have tradecraft like this billionaire in Italy does it with addicts where you learn how to, you know, well, I don't know what they're actually making over that office pasta or whatever. They're teaching you how to once you come back in a safe.

24:01For me, I think we need to teach if they want to stay in California how to clear dead brush. We have a really successful program with the prisons where they come out and they work with the firefighters to clear dead brush and has a really good result. That's the type of thing we need in California. So we train, get you sober, get you on a path, start teaching you how to do brush clearance, which we have enough of that for California to, you know, have a job for a long time. Come back to, you want to come back to California, get in with the fire department and be part of a new program where we do dead fuels around community brush clearance.

24:33We have a lot of trash in LA. My friend Juan from Clean LA, let me tell you how much trash is. There's opportunity to bring people, how to train people out. We're going to actually clean all this trash and come back and help give you a job. If you want to come back to LA, I think a lot of these people that we're going to help are going to want to go to where their homes are and their friends and memories. I think they're just stuck in this vicious cycle of hell. These people are in hell and they try to be like, oh, Spencer hates homeless people. He calls them zombies. We have zombies right now.

25:07Let me tell you. I'm not going to do the nice lingo because, yes, they're here. They go, you don't care about humans. I do. But even a zombie, you've got to get unzombied. So we have to acknowledge what we're dealing with. These aren't just like the single mother who lost a check. These are people deep in a level of like, we got to bring you out if we can. You may just need to be in a mental facility like Dr. Phil will tell you. Like I've talked to him. There's some people that just need psychiatric medicine and psychiatric help. That's a real. Because he lives around the corner from MacArthur Park.

25:44So he gets to see it on a daily basis of just how bad it's gotten. And even me and my wife, like recently went to a Lakers game. We ended up kind of routed through that area. And I used to live there in 2016 in K-Town. And we're driving down the street and I'm seeing, you know, hundreds of dudes slumped over doing the famous Fentuline. Doing the monster mash. Yo. and I mean I just couldn't believe it like this was an area where uh when Pokemon Go was released famously in 2016 we were walking around at at midnight playing Pokemon in the neighborhood and now and it was a little sketchy then sure but now it's on a completely different level like what are your concerns in terms of like what you think could really help that community that you're so embedded in I think that my my biggest primary concern the whole time I've been there is like the actual community that lives there.

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26:31Like, you know, like I see everything that we're discussing, I see, but I also see at seven 30 in the morning when the kids are walking to the elementary school down the street, you know what I mean? And these are just people trying to coexist in this hellish community when they really are trying to forge like a strong identity. There's a big, uh, central American presence right there. And there, which is a huge part of like the fabric and lifeblood of Los Angeles. And to see them have to deal with not only the drugs, but the gangs and all the issues that plague the neighborhood, that's kind of my primary concern.

27:04I was at Langer's Deli with Norm on Saturday morning. And he's a fighter. I could have given up, but he wants to fight for this community. The park, he said, is for the kids. MacArthur Park is for the kids. When him and his dad had, when he was growing up, his dad had Norm's, that was for the kids. You would go on boats out there. We need to fight to get L.A. back for the kids so they don't grow up. I didn't see growing up naked drug addicts. These kids now, that's a daily thing. I met a mom the other day. She said, my kids play homeless. Like it's a, we are creating. It's a game. Yeah, like it's a game.

27:41We need to fight for the future of L.A. with these kids. And that's why I keep saying, if I win, it's obviously God and then the moms. Because moms don't want their kids growing up in this. if you also when you just see that oh yeah they're on drugs they're on drugs oh he's on drugs they have to tell their parent you just your your brain is going to say oh we do that's society you just do drugs we need to get kids off of drugs drugs are like 100 and on top of that by the way i'm paying two thousand dollars a month to live next to this in supposedly a luxury apartment building so that's another that's another inherent problem right there well that's back to all the developers I meet.

28:20They don't want to build anything in LA anymore because out front of it, they know this investment is taken. They're sitting on so much property right now and so much stuff that they don't put money in. If we enforce laws, we get people off the street and get them treatment. Now developers can put money into LA. We can build. Prices go down. There's more opportunity. There's more jobs. We're losing over a hundred restaurants a year minimum in LA. And when people hear that. That's not Chipotle. Even though the Chipotle just closed in the Palisades this week. So even Chipotle's can't even stay open anymore.

28:56But you're losing these family businesses. Then you're losing the bussers. You're losing the servers. Potentially, if it's a nicer spot of valet. When you hear over 100 restaurants, these are huge pieces of the Los Angeles economy. And then we bring back to Hollywood. Right now, Mayor Bass and Councilman Brown, we got to get Hollywood back. We got to get Hollywood. these people have been combined in power for 10 years now when they're got somebody calling them out now let's do it they already let it fail we got to bring it back red alert mayor bass will be like oh i cut the price to film at uh the observatory to 30 000 these indie film productions that are pop podcasts nobody has a budget for 30 000 to get a shot of an observatory back we need to support independent creators and artists as a city because that's the lifeblood like when i was growing up the only reason i wanted to be famous or being like because hollywood was here the energy whether it's music or or film a tv that's gone it's in georgia now england all these it's not even here we need to fight to bring it back because people think when it's hollywood they think about like tom cruise and these people no it's the guys building the set it's the light it's the grips it's the glam people people forget the hair and makeup people are hurting now because all these jobs they like work in the salon but now all the hollywood shoots whatever's left i would out of the state they don't get to go so these are their clients that leave now that was their side second check now they're on only fans you know it's so crazy about only fans like my friend who's like uh you know he's like bro this she's like a lovely girl he was ready to like wifey up and i'm like oh what happens bro he's like she couldn't afford here this is a very attractive girl that back in the day she could do bottle service be a server and go on auditions even the attractive people in la can't afford to live in here that's la supposed to be where the attractive people could go work do the mood that's gone like we've lost even what the like shiny part of la is and then yeah all due respect to any woman on whatever the thing but who knows how many of these people wouldn't go that way just because they got it they got to pay rent.

31:07It's understandable at this point. And I don't judge anybody's. But my point is, we need to have more opportunities. So if you don't want to do that platform, there's other routes. But slowly but surely, we're just cutting off all the routes to feed yourself, have a nice outfit, pay your bills. And that's the problem with the socialists. They get everybody thinking, oh, they're going to give me more money. All the people they're taxing are going to leave the city. They're leaving the state. Who are they going to get the money from? They're coming after each tier goes down. So that formula, it's a nice little dream that fails in Venezuela, fails in Cuba.

31:44You can't. So we need the only way to make more things affordable is put more money in your pocket. And the way you do that is more opportunity, more business. But the way we have it set up with L.A., we are not getting more business. They make it hard to have a business. They overtax you. They allow stuff in front of your streets that is hurting the restaurant or hurting them. There's so much. They're like, how Spencer has no experience. All the people I talk to are the ones fighting this city who are on the outside that know exactly what we just got to change. And it'll always be a fight because these people are crazy.

32:17Right. Well, that's the stuff they throw at you. They always want to say Spencer has no experience. And then like people always want to tell me Spencer like lost all his money on crystals. What was the deal with the crystals? I haven't been in the Spencer Pratt hive long enough to know about this. So to be clear, my crystals went up more money than Bitcoin. They all burned, but they were all great investments at the time. So I bought them in like 2007, 2008. These are the crystals you see in museums. These are collector, these things like they were going to go into the Natural History Museum. I was going to say collection by the Pratt family.

32:54People are trying to lead me to think that you were like a psychic or something. That you had like healing crystals or something. I was tapped into the matrix. There are certain properties. Again, they all burned down. So my everything I ever spent money on, they act like I didn't have it. So, yes, I spent all this money. I was also 22, 23 years old, was planning on being Kim Kardashian rich and famous. So I wasn't hoarding my money like this was my one run at the game. You know, if I didn't get unplugged, which that's the game, like the Kardashians, Comcast stayed with them. Viacom said, oh, this this crew is too expensive.

33:30so I wasn't wrong and I wasn't right but that idea again that's my money it wasn't tax money so if we're gonna say he spent 10 million of his own money when he's 23 this lady Karen Bass just spent 400 million dollars last year of our money to house allegedly 1400 people and that's just one of her little boxes of spending our money so if we're gonna do the who spends more reckless money and mine wasn't reckless. I had great dinners. I treated a lot of friends. It's not even fair to hold you accountable to that, in my opinion. It's crazy talk. Because really it hasn't, you weren't spending that money with like some type of political ambition or anything like that.

34:11This is just you being young and - Flexing. Actually being insanely successful for your age and the fact that you were even able to blow that much money. I think that should say something. My dad, who's a dentist, called me, my dad called me up because, you know, he hears all this stuff and he goes, when they say you spent over$10 million, he goes, you ask them how many other people have made$10 million on their own with no connect, like as the bad guy, you know, doing all my own hustle. You ask them how many people can do that? Like that's, that's what people forget how hard it is to make a million dollars, let alone lots of million dollars.

34:46And again, I was the home, like I was supporting people. I was funding, you know, rappers, MMA fighter. I had so many people I was taking care of with that money that you go ask them right now, buying my friend's suits so they could go try to be real estate. I was a very good person to be friends with with that money. There's people still wearing Spencer Pratt Airways shirts from 2007. 100%. Even in my BMX group chat, a bunch of the dudes in the group chat had positive stories from partying at Spencer's house back in the day and stuff like that. It was just kind of, you bring worlds together. I felt like every dollar I spent was for the good of lots of people to have fun.

35:30And I mean, again, I'll run it back right now. This is what's going to stop me from being mayor. Like those decisions, I would have done all those decisions again. I've learned so many life lessons to get to this point about human nature, about people, about different cultures. Like they act like, Oh, he's from the power. I'm from LA. I knew everybody you know at one time you know i know this person that was uh part of this podcast i've seen clips on tiktok when i was managing a fighter his music manager at the time was big you so i spent a lot of time in that world like big you and his friends we all would go to fights in different states and again i'm 23 years old exposed to a whole part of la at that time you know whatever is happening i'm not up to date and you're a celebrity at the time as well too so it's like so my point has been charged with murder and you're running for mayor you know so i didn't know we didn't know each other at that time but my point is like i've been a part of all la just being supporting people in different you know because i love rap you know we tried to sell before they even did we were trying to do rap battle show before it was even trending because i was in they got stolen got stolen so i mean i was deep in the rap battle culture all day long and he's sending me, this is the guy.

36:47Like anything you can think of, I've like tried that hustle. I could see you two in a rap group. Yeah, for sure. Like the Migos. Maybe I'll join two. We need three. You know. Yeah, you could be the third. I just did my last rap song, hopefully, with my Fresh Prince of Bel-Air video last year. Oh, yeah, no, you were. Yeah, that was amazing. Do you think Gavin Newsom is going to be willing to work with you or do you think he's going to be so aggrieved by the idea of LA having a non-liberal mayor or Republican mayor that he might try to stonewall you? Well, thankfully, as a mayor, it's a nonpartisan race and it's a nonpartisan seat.

37:20That's what L.A. needs to keep. They've hijacked it and made it a political position. There's no letter next to my name and there's no letter next to Mayor Bass. My name just says Spencer Pratt, community advocate. So that idea of like who's they've made that in there. It's not supposed to be. It's not designed that way. But Newsom's gone. He's done in terms up. So actually, as mayor, I'll be exposing his fraud with our tax money. I'll probably actually eliminate him from being the president because I'm going to bring in the criminal investigation team of the IRS to go back in time and get all the documents.

37:54So all the people have jacked all of our tax money. We're going to find their Bentleys. We're going to find their house. We're going to put them up to sale and we're going to figure out how to put that money back into neighborhoods, the parks and the kids, the boys and girls club after school. because these people are stealing our money and it's not going to our the kids in the communities yeah and i mean gavin newsom's already screwed with the presidency because even the the most low information voters when they have this conversation they end up saying if his business card right now is the current state of california there is absolutely no way that america as a whole is going to get behind him well i wish that was true but my experience being deep in this battle people just believe lies, lies, lies.

38:35Like they're so, especially a good, even though he's not a good liar, he's like a smooth, snaky liar. And who he's targeting, it's, they just go, oh, he's better than the other side. It's like, we got to get past the other sides and who's actually got the, the, the results. That's what parties have been capping since he was the mayor of Frisco. Oh, saying that. Literally like, oh, it's crazy. So I wish that was true, but I have to fight people all day long. now they're like oh i'd rather have bass because she wasn't on a reality show yeah but you know what bass was doing when she was 20 she was in cuba training with terrorists to go bomb the u.s capital so that's what people forget i'll take my hated every dumb thing i've done in my life background but i was never trying to blow up america anti i love america so if you really go and look at the past my my past goes against hers all day long and you know like us growing up in like the far west side of LA and all that it's predominantly very liberal you know what I mean it's like you're surrounded in a sea of of blue would you say that um your family was particularly liberal or democrat or you my older sister is the the most progressive democrat you could and of course all of her friends they're all backing me because I don't talk politics I talk common sense basic everyone i know from high school everyone i grew with is a liberal democrat 95 i guess there's i guess i heard there's a couple little facebook groups from i don't even remember them in high school they're like i knew him you can't vote for my that's how crazy it's got there's like different graduation years beefing to like back me i'm like this planet is crazy right now but yes i don't know any republicans i don't know what he and then like i said on cnn They go, why are you Republican?

40:24Well, when you're the most hated person in America, beating OJ Simpson, beating Casey Anthony, like straight alleged murderers. I don't know the cases, but maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. And you're beating these people. I had cops that were bodyguards. I had, you know, Delta Force bodyguards. You know what they'd all tell me? You better get your own gun for when we're not here. So what did my wife and I do? We got guns. And then when you get a gun and you train and you learn and you're properly, and I'm not just winging it here. and once you know how to operate and have a safe handling of a gun, what do you learn?

40:53Oh, I need a CCW, concealed carry weapons. Do you know how hard that is to get? Very difficult. So you know who hates that? We're the Democrats. So that's the only time I ever connect. Oh, the Republicans are down with me having a CCW to protect my wife and kids because I can't afford security anymore. So that is my... We should be able to have straps more easily and stuff. Unless they make... I would love the streets where you don't need them. But if people are getting home evasion, three times a night. People are getting... You need to be able to protect yourself. It's a foundation of the American identity of being American.

41:27You got to have to be able to protect yourself. So if Democrats all of a sudden flipped in and were like CCWs, I would have been a registered Democrat. That's my only thing that's political is keeping my wife safe and my kids safe. And if you try to mess with that, I don't do any of the other... I don't care about anybody's other party stuff. That's my... You don't... Yeah, because that's life or death. And I know a lot of people, myself included, who are liberal. And this was definitely put to the test once you realize how difficult it is to get a CCW or even just get a gun in the first place in Los Angeles.

42:01And I feel like that is one thing that is just it's hard to justify from our perspective because it's the city feels so dangerous. Like both things can't be in place at the same time. Yeah. And, you know, like a Democrat mom will hear this and be like, oh, my God, he doesn't like guns. and what I'll tell them is, no, but I'm going to be the mayor that every school in LA, there's going to be one patrol unit that's got a pin for that school. Even though LAUSD, supposedly, there's some little drama with that. They have their own police on campus. I'm going to make sure the LAPD keeps that block on patrol.

42:35So we need to make sure kids are safe at school. That's going to be one of my number one priorities. So most people hate guns, you know, the people hate, because they're concerned about kids in schools. My priority is to make kids safe, whether it's at the park, walking to school or in their school. So that's I'm more aware of the dangers of guns than somebody who's anti gun. So I will be fighting for these moms who are concerned about guns in society to make sure their kids are safe at school to a whole new tier that we've ever experienced in L.A. But again, the whole point of everything is safety.

43:09If you don't have safety, you can't have a functioning city. That's the foundation of a successful city. So something I've always wanted to ask you, Spencer, because we both grew up with a lot of the same kids. And something I realize is drug addiction is not mutually exclusive to socioeconomic status or race or gender or preference or anything like that, as evidenced by the fact that these kids we grew up with and some of the best schools in America and all that, they're dropping like flies. You know what I mean? I know we both know like five or six kids that grew up within two within a half mile of of 26th Street in Santa Monica that are all dead from overdoses and things of that nature.

43:54To the point where it's like Brentwood Park is damn near not as bad as MacArthur Park, but is there's a lot of per capita. These kids are still having a hard time with addiction. What do you think is the cause of that? And what can we do to address that? well first off i would be dead because when i was a freshman in college zanny bars had just dropped and i thought oh these are safe these are from like a doctor i'll be dead now with the way they mix whatever you know that's the point we have created a society where they can feel safe doing drugs without like one time you're dead like that's a new that was very rare like in the movies were growing up, if you got a hot dose of heroin and you shoot up, you could OD.

44:38That's a movie scene. Now that could be anything you take. So I think the problem is I don't think kids have enough D.A.R.E. commercials with the stakes. So even if, you know, you're never going to not have kids experiment, but they need to know how dangerous it is now. And it's back to when I meet with the fire station guys, they tell me when they were growing up, even they would teach you out of when to call 911. All of our resources of the fire department They go to these houses for toothaches, ankle spritz. We need to have a real marketing campaign to the youth, whether it's when to call 911, how dangerous these drugs are.

45:16You know, your friend on Snapchat tells you, try this Vicodin. You could die. I just don't think when you're 15, you think, oh, no, this dealer is good. My friend gets like, we just need the public's awareness. You know, people who know, know because they know somebody who's died. But I just don't think when you're 15, 16, like the real death reality and the choices are put on the youth. But kids are always going to want to experiment. We just need to make it a lot safer by stopping the cartels from getting this, you know, danger. You know, we need to target the cartels. They don't care if they kill us.

45:54Do you feel like there is any progress made in the recent MacArthur Park operation? No, I was just down there. The whole new bag of Fenty gets dropped off by the plug the next day. They get one out. The volume of this stuff, not to mention, ready for this? Did you see what the DOJ did? We paid for those needles, right? They just busted one of the city workers, the PATH guys. Not only did we pay for the needle, he got caught slinging the drugs to the addicts. So our tax money is giving them the needles and then he's slinging the drugs. So no, we need to be like DEA needs to be there every day till they're gone.

46:30But the problem is there will always be the consumer. The dealers will always, we need to get the consumer off the streets and get them help. And it's funny because it's like they're programmed to go there. You know what I mean? Like they, people have been going to that same corner since we were kids. You know, like what's going to stop it? There's, there's no instruction manual. It's like they're instinctually just. There was eras. I've talked to a certain law enforcement people. There was eras where they cleared the park for real, like not clear it for like a day. and it was back to the community and the family.

47:00So it's doable. Like I know the specific area. I know the captain who was in charge of it. I talked to him. It's been done. The idea that we can't take our parks back for the communities, it's been done. And I can't wait to be the mayor that fights for the kids and the moms. And they go, oh, like Spencer, I'm like, you don't realize who's behind me. If I get elected, that means the people were enough. And again, I'm fine if I don't get elected. It's not God's plan. If I'm right here this close, God is putting me into play. And if I don't get elected, I'm going to go back to selling healing crystals and be with my family and hummingbirds.

47:35Hummingbirds will be back. I'll just be eating my tacos at Don Antonio. So I only have the pressure of doing my hardest effort so I can look and be like, it was not God's plan because once you lose everything, your family, lose everything, your parents, you look to God, you're like, why? And then everything lines up like this. I'm like, okay, is this my path? Is this where God wants my destiny? I don't know, but I will do everything so that when I look back to tell my kids, like I was almost the man, I put it in the work and the energy and I fought, but it wasn't for me. I'll be able to have that on my heart and I won't be like, Oh, I should, maybe God did set me up, but I didn't do the work because a lot of people forget that, you know, God or angels can get behind you.

48:15But if you don't do everything in your power to deliver, then it's not on God. You got set up and you didn't follow through. And I've learned that in my journey about consistency and regret. I'm going to put in every bit of my DNA into this until the election. And then if I'm not mayor, I'm not mayor. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to keep fighting, exposing these people who destroyed my life and my community. But I'm just not going to be. That wasn't God's plan to have me do it from the inside. For sure. I know you got to go. Can we just get your pitch to the No Jumper fans out there who are largely young, probably largely not terribly politically devoted to one side or the other?

48:58Tell them why they should want you to be mayor of Los Angeles. You know, my pitch is even broader. I think from the experience I have in this journey, my close friends who love me, people don't even vote. Your vote should matter. So even if you're not voting for me, go vote. Like be involved. care about who the city council are don't go off of like a lot of these influencers you see they're paid ops without the you know i got a civics uh civic violation i'm just gonna sue my opponents because they're paying the ops to make videos to cook on me so a lot of things you see they don't have the proper little tag on it the clippers need to have it don't just believe what you see on your algorithm and just do the work like i wish i had done the work in my community found out both the reservoirs were empty, found out the fire department was underfunded by our mayor, found out that they let all this dead brush.

49:52Like my pitch is just like be a concerned citizen because you are paying taxes. You may not realize it, but you're paying sales tax on all your matcha or whatever you get on your blunt wraps, your kush. Everything's got, everything's got taxes. So you are paying for the failure. You're selling kush at the country mart now. So I would say I'm more concerned about people like doing their own due diligence. Don't go off of what I'm saying on this. Go investigate where your money's going. Go investigate what all their cook numbers. I'm going to win if it's God. I don't need to convert voters. I don't go out and try to like hustle people and like vote for me.

50:29I my message is going to connect to the people who want what I'm saying. Just the truth, accountability, transparency. But if that's not for you, then just vote, though. vote against me if you have to but just vote that's the key how we're failing as americans as citizens we've let the people that vote who are actually against our own what we want like humanity the people that are really voting are are the a lot of these people are bad like evil i'll say straight up evil they're like people who are really there that is for the destruction of america so if you know you could be on this and already be all hyped as a socialist like i hate america good luck with that it does not work and it's a lie they're lying to you so i would say research socialism and stop believing you can mix socialism with it's all that's all like no we got to work hard we got to make sure that people aren't stealing our money and we're not hold them accountable but yeah there's no pitch it's just like i'm with god so if i'm gonna win it's the holy spirit you're with god you got a beautiful family Are you supporting you?

51:33Clearly, your wife's behind you, your family's behind you. You're good. I've had to leave my family the most since I've had a wife and had kids. This is like people are always doing this for clout. It's a fun clout. Political clout is scary. I got to have now armed cops with me, 24-hour security on my kids. People are crazy. This is not like fun. I'm doing this for the real, for my heart. I'm risking a lot to do this. I'm not doing this like, ooh, I want to be the man. No, I want to make a change. So, again. You got my vote. Yeah, I'm rocking it. Let's do it. Spencer, man, appreciate you so much.

52:12Thank you. No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Like, comment, and subscribe. Appreciate y 'all. Thanks so much, man.

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