SportycK on Norwalk, What the CK in His Name Means, Getting Shot, the N Word & More

15 Apr 2026 · 1 h 14 min · 32 chapters

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In short

Sporty CK discusses growing up in Southeast LA/Norwalk, gang life and hood politics (including what “CK” means), early trouble and arrests, being shot twice and surviving, starting to rap after the shooting, and views on the N-word in music. He also talks about baseball prospects derailed by COVID, fatherhood, tattoos, and navigating fame while still being a gang member.

Guests

Sporty CK (up-and-coming Los Angeles rapper from Norwalk/Southeast LA; father of a 2-year-old; says his father was a gang member; describes multiple current gun cases and a first gun charge at 18; had a heavy head tattoo tied to “Norwalk Primos”; plays baseball in youth; started rapping after a shooting). Host/partner: Lush Uno (No Jumper host/player partner).

Key claims

“CK” is not about Crips; it’s tied to his beef with Chivas and Carmela. He stopped using the N-word in songs and credits that for career momentum. He was shot twice in one incident, had four surgeries, and spent about three weeks hospitalized. He’s fighting five cases “allegedly,” says he’ll be exonerated.

Notable examples

Norwalk hood list (Varrio Norwalk, Orange Street Locos, Carmela’s, Chivas, etc.); McArthur Park; Depop selling; the “ETA” song controversy with Ryder G; the “Dove Gang Bang”/Boulevard Babies remix era; his “Maserati” head tattoo; COVID ending baseball; his shot route from Santa Fe Springs through enemy territory.

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Chapters

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Growing Up in Norwalk

1:21 to 1:52

Sporty CK shares his background and experiences growing up in Norwalk.

“We got two big-ass armed guards right out there.”

Family Dynamics and Influence

1:52 to 3:13

Discussion of Sporty CK's family background and its impact on his life.

“All right, tell us a little bit about growing up out there.”

Life in Southeast LA

3:13 to 4:25

Sporty CK discusses the challenges of growing up in Southeast LA and gang culture.

“There's, you know, because you got like there's multiple you got you got Whittier, you got you got Santa Fe Springs, you got Hawaiian Gardens, you got Artesias, Ritos.”

Understanding Gang Culture

4:25 to 7:09

Insights into gang life, loyalty, and personal choices within that world.

First Arrest and Consequences

7:09 to 8:13

Sporty CK recalls his first arrest and the impact of his lifestyle choices.

“Was your mom disappointed or was your mom understanding about that situation as well?”

Clarifying the CK

8:13 to 10:47

Sporty CK explains the meaning behind 'CK' in his name and gang affiliations.

“No, it was just during that time, like I got, like I was, like all my cases I got, I bailed out.”

Sporty Aspirations and Challenges

10:48 to 14:01

Sporty CK reflects on his past in sports and how life changes affected his dreams.

“But little is nothing compared to baby and infant and all that shit.”

Navigating Stress and Fatherhood

14:01 to 14:59

The speaker reflects on the challenges of balancing fatherhood, gang life, and personal health.

“But some dudes like really like they were kind of like sensitive enough that they were like that.”

Shifting Perspectives on Relationships

15:00 to 16:41

Discussion on how becoming a father changes one's views on relationships and parenting.

“Two years ago My baby's two And was it with a woman you were planning on spending the rest of your life with Or was it an accident?”

Confronting Gang Life and Personal Choices

16:42 to 17:55

Exploration of how the speaker manages his gang identity in front of his daughter.

“Like, if she's looking up to me as a father, then she's going to want somebody that does right like her father.”
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Reputation and Community Perception

17:56 to 19:14

The speaker discusses the social implications of a controversial figure representing their community.

“He's most definitely not the homie No way He's not the homie He's no good Wait so who are you hanging out with?”

Evaluating Loyalty and Reputation

19:15 to 20:30

A critical look at loyalty and authenticity within the speaker's community.

“Pibb, sweet cherry, bold outbursts, the kind of flavor that gets attention.”

The Reality of Being an Artist in the Gang World

20:31 to 22:07

The speaker shares experiences of merging music and gang life, including challenges with features and collaborations.

“But they looking at me because they're like, this is your homie.”

Challenges in Music Collaborations

22:08 to 24:04

Discussion on a difficult experience with a high-profile collaboration that didn't pan out as expected.

“But I thought you were supposed to get on a song with Lefty from that.”

Overcoming Trauma and Life Events

24:05 to 25:55

The speaker recounts being shot and how it affected his life and music career.

“I was still thinking in my mind it was his manager that did it.”

Surviving a Shooting Incident

25:56 to 28:00

A detailed account of the speaker's shooting incident, revealing its impact on his life and perspective.

“That was after, like, the music started popping off?”

Surviving a Shooting: The Journey to Recovery

28:00 to 30:50

Learn about SportycK's experience after being shot and his recovery journey.

“I deadass thought it was a whole different situation.”

From Hospital to Studio: The Birth of a Rapper

31:13 to 35:00

Hear how SportycK transitioned from recovery to pursuing music after his shooting.

“Yeah, like a month or two later, like I had a song that I had already made.”

Cultural Influences: Chicano Rap and Identity

35:01 to 38:50

Explore the influences of Chicano rap on SportycK's music and identity as a rapper.

“Or, like, the homies to bump, like, when we're riding around.”

The Controversial Use of the N-Word in Rap

38:51 to 42:00

Delve into the complex discussions around the use of the N-word in music and the implications for artists.

“Yeah the same day That's why in the music video you see it Like it's freshly inked Yeah damn near look swollen Can I get a photo of it?”

Tattoo Experiences and Pain Levels

42:00 to 43:19

The guests share their personal tattoo experiences and discuss pain levels.

Relationships and Life After Breakup

43:20 to 44:39

Discussion about dating, relationships, and coping post-breakup.

“I thought I wasn't going to make it through the whole session.”

Recognition and Community Pressure

44:40 to 46:04

Exploration of the artist's rise in fame and the pressure of community expectations.

“But shit, for the time, damn, it's been great.”

Confrontations and Conflict

46:05 to 47:33

The artist shares a story about a confrontation and its implications.

“It's been love, you know, like, I love it.”

Legal Troubles and Future Plans

48:35 to 50:29

Discussion about upcoming legal issues and coping mechanisms.

“Do they not understand freedom of speech?”

Rap Beef and Artistic Integrity

50:30 to 56:00

The artist reflects on rap beefs and maintaining artistic integrity.

“You're known to me like the CK in Slick is sporty CK because you have a lot of bars where it's not.”

Navigating Racial Dynamics in Prison

56:00 to 57:10

Learn about the complexities of racial relations and survival in prison environments.

Music Production Before Incarceration

57:10 to 58:30

Discover Sporty CK's plans to create music and build his digital footprint before going to jail.

“I think you should do a 20 V 1 to see which one of these hoes is going to hold.”

Preferences in Relationships and Body Types

58:30 to 1:00:10

Explore Sporty CK's candid thoughts on relationships and body types.

“Do you think you'll sleep with a black woman before you die?”

Mary Kill Game with Influencers

1:00:10 to 1:02:30

Listen to a light-hearted game of 'Mary Kill' involving popular personalities.

“Well, now I felt like I had hit the lottery.”

The Competitive Landscape of Rap

1:02:30 to 1:04:40

Understand how competition shapes the rap industry and influences artists' careers.

“If so, Mary Jane was in the equation, would that kind of change the dynamic here?”

Collaborations and Future Aspirations

1:04:40 to 1:07:20

Hear about Sporty CK's thoughts on collaborations with artists from different regions.

“As soon as I saw that, though, I was like, oh, for sure he's got a beef with the dudes that pressed him in the one hood vlog.”
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1:10And today we are sitting down with an up-and-coming superstar out of beautiful Los Angeles, sporty CK on the podcast. We in here, brother. How you living, man? We living. That's how we in here. Yeah. I'm a big fan. The music's been going crazy. And, I mean, it's kind of crazy. You're moving real, real official. We got two big-ass armed guards right out there. Hey, I didn't even know they was coming. For real? No, I didn't. You're not taking any chances. I guess not. Shit. Definitely. I think they're there to protect us from him, to be honest. Yeah. That makes sense. He's protecting something. Protect the bag.

1:50And, okay, you're representing Norwalk? Yeah, city of Norwalk, Southeast LA. For sure. All right, tell us a little bit about growing up out there. It's just like any other childhood, you know, has its ups and downs, but we live in every day. What were your parents on? I mean, my dad was a gang member. My mom, she was from the hood. She knew what's up, you know. So I feel like I just grabbed onto it, you know. Like that's all I seen. Your dad was from the same hood as you? No, he wasn't. He's from the homie's hood, actually. Cantaranas. He's from Cantaranas. And I never really grew up in that area.

2:27That's Santa Fe Springs. Oh, okay. Shouts to the SWAT meet. Shouts to the SWAT meet. And your dad was around your old child and everything? Yeah, yeah. He was always around. That was mainly my primary caregiver. That was always around. So your mom wasn't around as much? As my real mom? No. My real biological mother? Nah, she was never around. Okay. Yeah, since I was a youngin'. Interesting. And what's that area like for those out there? Was it a real treacherous place to grow up? I mean, I know back in the days when I was growing up, yeah, it was always like, you know, like it wasn't I'm not going to say it was as bad as, you know, like Compton and stuff like that, you know, but it has its days, you know.

3:04So so for context, that's the Sela, Southeast Sela. What do you feel like is like the most dangerous part of the Sela? I don't know. I mean, there's different parts. There's, you know, because you got like there's multiple you got you got Whittier, you got you got Santa Fe Springs, you got Hawaiian Gardens, you got Artesias, Ritos. Like there's it goes on like the list goes on of the southeast part of LA. But it gets dangerous in every one of them, you know. And obviously it's like predominantly Rasa down there, but like it's somewhat racially mixed, too, right? I mean, I mean, not really. I feel like nowadays now I know there's certain hoods that still, you know, press that, you know, NK, whatever.

3:45but as for me and my hood, we don't do that, you know. But we're an SA hood. We're SA's, we're Mexicans. We don't really allow any other than that. So if there was a black dude who wanted to be from your hood and he grew up around there, it still just wouldn't happen? I mean, nah, it's possible. I'm not saying it's not possible, but it just, I feel like they come with a lot more to it. Like they got to be, they got to prove themselves more. Right. to you know because at the end of the day like this is a essay of audio we're a vodio we run mexican so you're gonna take that chance when you go to jail like you're gonna switch up like you run black you know it's different like that so that's how i see it that's how we see it were you were you a troubled kid during your younger years were you getting in trouble or were you kind of i mean i was always been a f*** up like since kindergarten i was getting suspended since then but why'd you get suspended in kindergarten bro yeah kindergarten that's a little early you're like five and yes that's what i'm saying like but i'm telling you just since i was you know out of all my auto out of all my family they knew like it was coming for me you know really yeah like towards towards when i was like when i was like 15 16 they thought like oh he have some hope he'll change it up but not like it just came back to me so you don't think it was any like particular trauma that you went through as a kid you were just kind of born to i feel like trouble i mean not necessarily i feel like it was just uh you just you latch onto the things that you're around you're surrounded by you know like so i feel like that i just fell in line basically like and i i'll never like say anybody put it on me because i make my own decision at the end of the day i chose this life nobody else did and that's how i see it so but as for me you know like what i looked up to yeah that's all i seen was the gang life my brothers my pops you know uncles all that shit did you did you get put on or was it just like you got walked on because you were no hell no you just put on over here like you got to get put on to the hood and you got to get put on to your clique and those are two different put on so really yeah okay definitely all right so uh did your dad try to keep you away from oh most definitely yeah he tried his best to you know he tried to hide it as much but it's just there's so much that you can hide you know when you're doing certain shit and it's just at a certain age he just not necessarily not like gave a but he was just like you know he already knows like why hide it at least just you know teach him about it and that's what he did that is like i'm saying when i turned like 16 he started you know putting me on game with certain shit like like main thing that i took from him was like ain't nobody your friend the only friend you got is money that's the only one that's gonna have your back when you rough.

6:33But isn't that kind of the opposite of the gang mentality where if you're in a gang you're supposed to be able to really rely on everybody. Yeah that's the thing yeah I'm gonna ride from my hood regardless but ain't nobody gonna have your back the way money do. Man shit. Shit money could buy you loyalty. Yeah. Sometimes. Until you run out of it. Hell yeah until you run out of it that's why it's just. But around 16 was when he kind of realized like alright this is what his life is going to be like. I can't really control it. Yeah, like he just seen it. Like, all right, like he's going this way.

7:04At least, like, you know, show him the right way. Shit, I took his words. I never lost him. Definitely. Was your mom disappointed or was your mom understanding about that situation as well? I mean, no, I feel like my mom was more mad about it than my pops was because she was more hard on me than he was, you know? Like she was more like the disciplined parent. but she's just worried probably yeah she's just worried as a mother it's always going to be you know but yeah I feel like it never stopped me but it always hurt me knowing that she was like always worried and shit like that but that's what comes with it when's the first time you got arrested I was 18 I had just turned 18 you missed out on the Los Padrinos lawsuit yeah I know how I could have been balling wait so that's the big lawsuit that they're doing against the youth offender Yeah, yeah, yeah.

7:56All the doobies. If you was in there, you getting paid. So everybody's lying and acting like they got beat up and molested and shit? Just say you got touched. Yeah. Because I heard Smack say that he was going to lie about it. He totally should. Yeah. I encourage it. No, good for him. So you went to the county, right? Or was it just? No, it was just during that time, like I got, like I was, like all my cases I got, I bailed out. Okay. Every case I caught, I bailed out. But like, yeah, I was 18. and I was 18, I got my first gun charge. Now, okay, so Norwalk is a very active city when it comes to, obviously, like, you're from Varrio Norwalk.

8:35That's, like, it's named after the city, so, you know, there's a level of importance. But there's also, like, there's peaceful Varrio Norwalk, too. Yeah, there's multiple in Norwalk. You got Varrio Norwalk, you got peaceful Varrio Norwalk, you got Orange Street Locos, you got Varrio Carmela's, Varrio Chivas, Varrio Neighborhood, Varrio Nightcrawlers, and that's all just right there. I thought Chivas was in Artesia though. Well, that's the thing. That's different. Like there's Vario Artesia and Vario Artesia Chivas and then Vario Chivas. Okay, so that's, this is the reason I'm bringing this up is because the CK in your name is pretty confusing to a lot of people.

9:13They think it means like, you're talking about Crips. Yeah, and nah, it's never been about Crips. I have my CK for my own reasons. Like we beef with Chivas and Carmela. I was like, that's what we stand for, the CK for. It's never been about Crips. I got Crip homies, shit. But it's not the Artesia Chivas, or are they like? It's both. It's both. Yeah, that's the thing. They run together. Like, they homies. I know they click up, whatever the fuck. I don't know. I really don't know how they run. I just know that there's Artesia, there's Chivas, you know, shit like that. But borderline, literally, Chivas is like borderline.

9:44Like, you got 166 on this side. You got the Vario. That's our side. Then on this side of 166, you got Chivas, and that's their hood. It's literally borderline. The ops are across the street. Across the street. Okay. And so where'd the sporty part come from? That's my oldest brother. He's big sporty. Oh, okay. Yeah, they call me little sporty, but I just go out sporty. Is it true that fools drop the lil like in a lot of SA hoods? They don't be saying lil? I mean, it depends. There's still fools that you, like the homie, he's a lil player. He runs it like that, but I just f*** it. This episode is brought to you by Palmolive.

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10:58But I feel like that's based on generations, like, you know, like brothers, pops, and shit like that, you know? Have you ever had a crip trip on you, in particular because the sporty thing, you know, that's obviously like a rolling 40s thing and everything. So I can imagine dudes who don't necessarily understand your politics seeing your name and just being like, what the f*** is that? Nah, low-key, I never had anybody come at me. I had people ask me, like, oh, what's the CK for? But never anybody already know my name and say, hey, what's the trip on me? It's never been that. Right. But I know when I introduce myself, sometimes I will say that.

11:36I'll be like, Sporty CK. And they'll be like, oh, what's that sign for? And I'll be like, you know, tell them what it is. But you guys will just throw that on the end of anything? because like somebody like Treyway6k, you know, he's like, well, I guess he's Treyway6, so that's why he has to put the K to whatever. But like you just like added it in there as like a bonus because obviously there's no C. That's why. No, no, no, no. That's why. My name's just Sporty. That's why people call me Sporty. I just threw the CK just, you know, add a little bedazzle to my name. For the algorithm. For the algorithm, right?

12:09That's right. is there like um those beefs though with them other hoods probably like are older than you huh yeah these hoods have been around for generations so it's like you don't it's not even like it's kind of like once you once i'm from the hood it's it's on me it's put on me yeah exactly so got it do you uh do you consider yourself a sporty guy like do you play sports do you watch sports i used to play sports i used to play baseball i was more of a baseball type of man oh yeah that's why i lived up to my name also sporting means fly too like that's true yeah like you know if you dress good and all that yeah definitely you think you could have made it as a baseball player yeah i had what is it with socials like uh scouts and she had multiple scouts really scouts i had scouts to multiple colleges when i was early and that was when i was like sophomore and shit okay i was playing in varsity was was there anything that happened that killed the baseball dream?

13:07COVID. COVID. Fuck COVID, yeah. I feel like COVID, you just stop going to school, I stopped giving up. Yeah. Just went a different route. I mean, also, like, once you start smoking weed, you don't care about sports as much. Yeah, but that was the thing. I was smoking weed when I was playing baseball, and I was still doing my shit. But, yeah, that didn't stop me. I just feel like being inside, being locked down and shit, that shit. In the suburbs, it's like if you start smoking weed when you're 14, that's like your childhood trauma of that means that you're never going to ascend in life in los angeles it's just like you're smoking weed since you're 10 and that's my side yeah and if you let that ruin your life that's on you if the weed sends you to skid row then that's that's your problem and i've seen it happen yeah but that's funny because even like in my like early 20s i knew bmx dudes that got into smoking weed and we would be like damn man he was so cool and then he starts smoking his whole life is over.

14:01Yeah. Just thinking weed them up. But some dudes like really like they were kind of like sensitive enough that they were like that. Like you started smoking weed and we just wouldn't see him anymore. Just be in the crib. Yeah. And then they probably went to the Tunchi at some point. I don't know. Imagine if they started doing Skante. You ever try that fool? No. Never. I stick to my weed and drink. The night is young sporting chicken. Hang out with this fool in MacArthur Park. You're going to see the fun side out of the sconte it's not all doom and gloom man yeah exactly there's there's positive i don't want to put that out there no you look like a relatively healthy person as far as like drug use goes though like you see i try to keep my health as good as possible yeah shit i haven't been eating as much but shit i'll be trying why's that nah just you know stress shit what are you stressed out about man yeah i got a lot of man i'm a father i'm a gang member i'm a fuck all types of shit but you know we still out here I feel that When did you become a dad?

15:02Two years ago My baby's two And was it with a woman you were planning on spending the rest of your life with Or was it an accident? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I could say that Like, I looked at her as a girl that I've seen in the future Okay But we had our differences, you know Oh, okay But I'll always be there for my child It doesn't exactly sound like you were making Art LeBeau dedication For being completely honest Nah, I never made no fucking little songs I'm starting to now like right it's only for like just try to like change up my flow and you know but when you make a love song now you're not talking about anybody in particular you're just imagining the one just imagining that's all it is imagination it's a concept it's a concept how much like all right so how did having the kid change you it changed my aspect on everything like just where i have to move what i have to do how much money i gotta put in my pocket you know like it changed a lot but i feel like it changed me as a man too.

15:57Like I looked at a lot of things different, how I looked at females. Like, you know, that's one thing that it changed my mind. I was like, damn, do I really want that for my daughter? Like, you know? Do you ever think about it? Because like my girl said that to me before is like you have to treat your daughter as sweet as you possibly can because one day she's going to want to find a guy and she's going to want, She's going to hold those guys to the standard of how you treated her. So if you made her feel special all the time, she's never going to accept a guy that doesn't make her feel special.

16:32So you got to just do everything you can to just gas her up so that one day she'll not accept a guy unless he's that sweet to her. Yeah, and that's what I had to put in my mind. Like, if she's looking up to me as a father, then she's going to want somebody that does right like her father. you know always you know you know constantly arguing and shit like that you don't you don't want to do that shit in front of your baby you know so i had to realize that shit but do you feel like you have to downplay certain parts of your personality like the the gangster shit oh yeah and most definitely like i'm gonna try to hide it as much as possible as for as long as possible as i can but if it gets to a certain point of her already knowing like a little bit too much then i'll do the same thing like my dad i'll try to show her the best way i'm not necessarily putting her in that life but i'm at least show her like what what's right and wrong definitely um okay so you said you got locked up for a gun when you're 18 how many other times you get arrested i'm fighting five cases right now what five simultaneously yeah allegedly allegedly uh all state cases i'm assuming yeah all in the state mostly gun cases or yeah just bullshit damn yeah i'm still fighting all of them too so but you did nothing wrong so you're gonna be exonerated of all the charges yeah yeah that's fine i'm chilling now um one thing i didn't ask when i pulled up on you in the section the other day that i really regret my dog a rider rider g all right legend on instagram and the internet in general and very vocal line pusher Spencer Latina Spencer Latina Shout out to Ryder G He's very vocal about being from Norwalk and all that Is he the homie?

18:27He's most definitely not the homie No way He's not the homie He's no good Wait so who are you hanging out with? This is a guy on the internet I don't know You don't know But he's extremely entertaining He's a funny guy and he's a clown Yeah, so he's, I don't want to, like, put him in this category because he'll probably get super mad. He's probably already going to be mad because he's no good. Well, yeah, like, the same, like, Mexican crit Mac statement that you had made, but, like. More? More, like, yeah. Oh, wow. But he's, like, but he's with the business or no? Is he from the hood? I mean, well, he was official from the hood, but he's not official no more.

19:11In a classroom of sodas, most stay quiet. Then there's Mr. Pibb, sweet cherry, bold outbursts, the kind of flavor that gets attention. Bold kick of cherry. Hey, yo, Mr. Pibb. Trade the vape for the blunt. For the blunt? You got it. Trade off. The handoff. Nah, but he's no good from the set. Like, you know, he went down a path where you call, he took a, what is it? Jester Maxie? No, no, no. He went fire camp. Oh. And you don't do that. You can't go to fire camp? No. No, that's basically 50-50 PC, you know, same shit. Oh, shit. So once you're already locked up, you can choose to do fire camp, which is - Yeah, to like help out your case or maybe get early release hose and stuff like that.

20:00But you're not working as a firefighter? You are. Yeah, you are. You're jumping literally like in the middle of the forest out of planes. Yeah. I would think that that would be allowed, but it means that you have to spend time around people who are no good. so therefore it's not cool exactly exactly okay i didn't know and they know that all all once you know that but it's a way for you to work time off your sentence exactly yeah it ain't nothing wrong with it that's why he went his route it is what it is but it's just like he's over here claiming the set like he's still good he's still around no you ain't you was not around you was not in the hood like none of that and you got to look at people differently now after you told me that man like i didn't know um but it's different for different hoods like i know like certain black hoods like they like you know they they move different but as for my hood we don't we don't play that shit that's basically good as a pc piece of shit but his internet presence had nothing to do with like why you feel that way it's literally just that yeah that's why i would have felt that way even with him not being known and none of that like okay you know like it was like that from the jump he just came up out of nowhere do you feel like he's embarrassing Most definitely Like when he's claiming the city Like you know Representing But that's what he's representing Yeah it's bad It looks bad for us And that That was the main thing That I would get A lot of Cause at the end of the day Like I'm not gonna Like give me the crown For the city But I'm known in my city Like so They see this Oh Norak this Norak that Like oh this who He's from your hood Like what Like what's up with him Like man I don't even know this clown Like But he's no good Like he ain't I never seen him a thing in my life.

21:33So, you know, that's how I see it. But they looking at me because they're like, this is your homie. This is your homie from your hood. Like, you know, like, how is you letting this happen? Like, we don't even know where the f*** he's at. Well, yeah, because a lot of people that aren't familiar with the city and stuff, they're like, that might be their first glimpse of what they see. And so they're like, oh, okay. Exactly. And that was the thing. He started blowing up before I did. Right. Like, I still was making music at the time. That's why when people would, like, tell me about it, I'd be like, you know, I don't know what a f*** about that.

22:02like i care less like when did you first rap start like like people are like okay this will get off he can spit when i dropped the dumb gate uh dub gang bang it was the boulevard the boulevard babies remix yeah the boulevard baby remix yeah so that was a lefty gun player remix really i mean i know it's really like west side connection or whatever but it was like ice cube beat yeah but oh yeah yeah but he so he flipped that and it went up and then like a lot And the video, you know what I'm saying, like super activated, you know, all that. But I thought you were supposed to get on a song with Lefty from that.

22:36Yeah, I was. We actually did have a song. It was he had dropped the song by himself. Originally, he had gave me the song. He gave me two songs, but he mainly wanted me to hop on that one. Right now it's out as ETA. That's the song I was supposed to be on. But he had sent it to me. He was telling me, like, you know, this is how much I do for my features, but I got you. Throw that on your album and we good. like so i'm like all right i make my album i'm getting my shit all done and right when i'm about to drop my album he drops his album and he drops that song so i hear it like on a real like it was probably like a week after he drops his album and i hear it i'm like you know like what the that's the same song i'm thinking he put me on it i'm not even on it he changes the name to it i'm not running so i'm like he took you off your own song well it was his song to begin with it was his song he just threw me on a feature like he was just but he was giving me the song he literally said put this on your album like so that's that's giving somebody a song you know like so i seen it as that so when he i have seen it posted i'm all like what the like but my manager he was saying like you know we could still do it it'll be as a remix though like i'm like but he he's not he's not telling me nothing he didn't tell me he was gonna post it none of that shit so i'm thinking you know like like nah like so i was just i made my own decision i said like i'm not gonna put that shit out there like i like at the end of the day he didn't he he posted it and he changed the name to it.

23:55So I'm not going to go out there and just, you know, I don't need his clout. Like, I don't need no. Did you reach out to him? I did. That was the thing. I reached out to him. And that's why I never put it past him because at the end of the day, I was still thinking in my mind it was his manager that did it. Like, he don't know what's going on. He was in rehab at the time. So I'm thinking, no, they need something to drop. Oh, they got this. He probably don't even know that we're conversating and said, oh, here, hop on this song. So I never put it past him. So that's why I took the choice and said, I'm not going to post it.

24:22I'll wait until he tells me something. Oh, like, oh, I got another song. Or, yeah, I do put it as a remix and stuff like that. So that's why I didn't take it personal. I just, you know, I took it as just. So it's no hard feelings? No, that's why it ain't no hard feelings. But it's just if it was meant that way, then, you know, we won't know until he said something. That's a pretty mature perspective. Super mature. But at the same time, weren't you like, did your manager have to like, Because you're in between the worlds of fighting these cases, allegedly gangbanging and all that, and making it as an artist.

24:57And that can be kind of frustrating when you think you have something that's going to be a big change in your career. And that's why. I seen it as opportunity. He got a name for himself. He got his buzz going on. And that's what he was trying to do. He was trying to help me out. But at the end of the day, it was posted. I didn't know what was going on. He didn't tell me, so it was just, let me just put it to the side for now, you know? And that song, a lot of people f***ed with it. Like, I got a lot of love from it. But it never got put out published. Interesting. So, damn, does that kind of turn you off to, like, doing songs with bigger artists?

25:36I mean, low-key, it did for a minute. It did. Like, after that, I wasn't really doing a lot of features, like, because I was just, like, you know, like, a lot of people were expecting it. I was posting it, like, everything. And then when I dropped my album, like, everybody was like, where's that song at? Like, you know, like, I had to take it off, you know? So I didn't really do features with a lot of people. So was your, when you got shot, yeah? You got four times? Twice. Twice. I got shot twice. I had four surgeries. Four surgeries, that's what I meant. Thank you. Two different incidents? No, no, same incident.

26:07Oh, okay. All of it, same incident. That was after, like, the music started popping off? No, no, it was before. It was before. It was, like, probably, like, right before, Like I got shot and then after I got off the hospital and probably like two, three months after that I started like rapping. What was like, was that like the most traumatic thing you would experience? I'm pretty sure, yeah? Nah, definitely not. Hell nah. Losing my pops was. Okay. Yeah. That was nothing. I already knew that was coming one day. So where were you actually at when you got shot? Shit, I was in the enemies at the time.

26:41I was moving shit back and forth from, because at the time my pops had passed. Like two weeks before I got shot, my pops had passed. So I'm moving everything from my pops pad to my mom's pad. So I'm going back and forth. But going back and forth, I'm going from Santa Fe Springs to Norwalk. So I got to go through my enemies, whatever. I'm not tripping. And just one thing led to another, you know, like wrong time. I wasn't even paying attention. Like I was lacking. You were just driving? Yeah, I was driving. It was me, my baby mama, and then one of the homies. And you're not thinking that anybody's like watching your whip?

27:14Nah, that's the thing. Like, we're just driving and I guess they seen us. Like, they just seen us without us knowing. Were you riding fishbowl, like windows open type shit? Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. And that was the thing. I was at that. Think about it. My pops had just passed. I wasn't giving a f***. Like, I was just like, let me just move. I had a big ass f***ing 72-inch inside a boxcar moving that shit to my mouse pad. And you got hit in the leg and the stomach or what was it? No, I got hit in the hip and then under my armpit. Okay. And you were able to just drive to the hospital? Well, no, my baby mama was driving and I was passenger and they got us from the passenger side.

27:52And so she didn't get hit? No, she didn't get hit. Thank God. But that was the thing. It was like, I don't know what I was thinking, I guess. And that was the thing. I still don't remember the shit. I deadass thought it was a whole different situation. I thought I was in my hood with different homies when I got shot. I woke up thinking like, oh, where's this food? like how is he like and they're like what the fuck like oh you're in the hospital type shit yeah like i woke up in the hospital i don't even remember what the happened like i like people had to tell me what the happened like well type shit like yeah it was like and the doctors told me that are like yeah it was so traumatic that like you you see different things like like so that's what it was like i literally was thinking a whole different situation but my baby mama she had like she was fine so she drove us drove me to the hospital shouts to her for that yeah that's They said if it wasn't for her bringing me to the hospital or waiting for ambulance, I would probably have been dead.

28:43And that was the thing. I did, like, what you could say, my heart stopped four times. Like, shit, I shouldn't be here. Yes, you should. Do you know how long you were under, like when you were in the hospital? I know when I got to the hospital, I was gone. Like, I was done. Lifeless. And then they put me into the hospital. They attached me to shit. They bring me out, and I was still out. I guess they bring me back on the way to the other hospital, the St. Francis. They bring me back in the ambulance. But the f***. The defibrillator. Yeah. The f*** those shits are. And so how long were you in the hospital after you got shut?

29:20I was in there for like three weeks. Damn. And so what are you thinking about during that time period that kind of led to you rapping? Man, when I was in the hospital, I swear, like, I wasn't worried about nothing but my pops. Like, I wanted to go to his gravesite. Like, that's all I, like, literally right when I woke up, I was just like, pops, like, what the fuck? Like, that was the only reason, I feel like that was the only reason why I woke up. Like, shit, that shit, that shit. That was all I was, and that was the first thing. Literally, right when I got out of the hospital, I went straight to the cemetery.

29:51But so you're fighting for your life, and you're not even really thinking about surviving. You're just thinking about your father who had just passed? Yeah, and that was the thing. I was just trying to get out of there. Like, I was in that bitch. like they like there you know how they got to do like the the physical stuff like oh we got to help you walk again whatever like physical therapy exactly yeah so i was doing all that and they're like do you feel nauseous do you feel like you're about to pass out i'm like no i feel fine i feel fine i'm good every every day i'll tell them that not every feeling that they told me i felt but i was just trying to get out of there like literally i'll be walking you're like lying like oh yeah my foot has motion i feel yeah that's not good bro i was just trying to get out of there though yeah And even my mom's seen it.

30:32She was like, bro, you're not okay. You need to stay in here as long as possible. But so you weren't thinking about rapping when you were in there? No, that was the last thing I was thinking about. At the time, I wasn't even really rapping as much. I was just making songs here and there. When I got shot, I swear rapping was nothing. I didn't even. This episode is brought to you by Welch's Fruit Snacks. Big news for your kid's lunchbox. Welch's Fruit Snacks are now made without any artificial dyes. A snack parents can feel good about and the same delicious taste kids can't get enough of. All made with no artificial dyes.

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31:09Try Welch's Fruit Snacks today. I think I was going to be rapping. So then you get out and then like a month or two later you really start rapping? Yeah, like a month or two later, like I had a song that I had already made. So I just recorded that shit Like just me freestyling it on the phone And people started f***ing with it Like they were like Oh that shit's hard You need to go to the studio for that shit And I did I made that shit in the studio And that shit got love And that just gave me motivation To like you know Like just try this shit out You know And I did Because that shit took Look where it took me you know But you have a really natural ability Like your voice Your presence on the mic It sounds so like like you're meant to do it like no homo yo he do be on that though yeah yes did he yes did he yeah no so like fools weren't already telling you the homies weren't already like encouraging it like damn you might could have something there like yeah that was the thing that was the main ones that were like telling me when i first started rapping was the homies like the homies like a fool like you you could you could do something with that like food like ain't nobody and and And that was the thing.

32:20At the time, there was no one really rapping, like, in our city, like, from our section. There's not too many, like, famous rappers. Exactly, yeah. And even at that time, like, even rapping, like, any youngsters, none of that. Like, I had a homie, O-Tru, he was doing that. And he was, like, the only one at the time, like, really rapping until I started to do my shit. There's other, you know, pretty well-known people from Southeast L.A., though, like, Swifty Blue. He's pretty controversial. like what do you think about Swifty? Like I said last time, no comment. I tried to catch you this summer.

32:58So wait, you asked him about it during this vlog that you guys did? Yeah. And when did you do that? A couple days ago. Yeah, like a week ago. Oh, okay, so it's not out yet. Got it. Damn. And so you wrote in the notes that his opps pulled up right when you started the hood vlog? No, it wasn't even opps. It was just some little-ass kids just saying shit. like these little ass kids passed by and they were like oh you fools like and they just took off like but i had my homies go and that's why i was like let's go over here like let's just be and then uh like in in the hood that's what was really impressive to me adam is that like so how organized it was because like some some other guys came up they said some things or whatever and then sporty ck so casual he was like hey you guys and then other guys went in a car and just made sure that whatever disrespect was far away from us and we continued the vlog but these kids talking shit were just yeah like I know who it was it's some little ass like little bullshit ass kid but they were like they were just like around you know like that's why we're like oh I wasn't even worried but we didn't know that until after the fact we're thinking like these are some other fools like to us it looks serious why we thought the ops was sliding you should do the swifty blue move and go to their high school and trip on him he told me that's not actually what happened but i love that narrative so much when that was in the news like i mean there was footage of him getting like arrested at the school right so i mean yeah i don't i don't care about the facts i'm just rolling with the funniest no exactly yeah whatever is the most entertaining so although like you're like one of the first people to be super prominent as an emcee, as a rapper from Norwalk.

34:40Was there anyone from the Sela period that kind of inspired you? Nah, no one really inspired me from my city. Like, I feel like I just did my own shit. Like, that's literally all I have. Because when I would make music, I would make it for me. Like, I would make it because I liked it. Like, oh, that shit sounds hard. Or, like, the homies to bump, like, when we're riding around. Because we wouldn't have, like, hood music. Like the only hood music that we had at the time was like Lil Cuete. Like we would bump Lil Cuete. Yeah, we would bump a lot of Lil Cuete shit, you know. Salsa Cuete. Yeah. No, but like, so Chicano rap was like really different back in the day or like what people call Chicano rap.

35:20It was like a very specific genre. But nowadays it's like way more blended than there's like you guys. I feel like it's like L.A. rap now. Yeah, yeah. You know, like Draco rap type shit, you know. So was Draco like a big influence? I feel like, yeah, Draco. I feel like Draco inspired a lot of people. So, like, I feel like I listened to his music a lot when I was growing up. So I feel like, yeah, he was probably one of the ones that had an inspiration. I feel like mainly was like Peso, Bravo, you know, ones like that. Like, I grew up listening to Peso, and I could relate to a lot of his music. But so when you listen to your music, when you think about your style, do you feel like you make music that is, like, Mexican in nature?

36:00Or is it just like this is rap music to you, and you don't really? Yeah, I feel like, yeah, it's like that. I necessarily don't make it for like, like, cause I don't, I don't call myself like a Chicano rapper. Like, cause I don't, I feel like I don't make Chicano music. Like, there's a difference to it. It's more just hard street music. rap. Like, exactly. Like, just gang banging music, you know? Like, that's as I see it. Like, do you feel like essays should not say the N word? Or you think it's like 2026 and that's not? I feel like, we know the meaning to it. Like, I feel like if it comes to the, like the ER, that's different.

36:31No, for sure. But like, brother you know like stuff like that in that meaning towards it so but i know for essays it's it's harder like to say it because you know like prisons and shit like that you know but yeah yeah like the back then you know like but it's kind of that's why i try to i try i i don't say it in my music now like because i know like i'm an essay rapper you know like i can't be saying shit like that so and that did it it helped me out a lot like because when i would say it like like at the time i wasn't you know i wasn't buzzing like right when i made the first song without the end word and that shit went up so like you think that was a part of why because that's like a lot of people were like talk about the fact that support you like doesn't say because you i think you did earlier right like in your first couple songs yeah yeah like in my first few songs i did say it like you know but so you think you not saying that was like a catalyst for your success yeah yeah yeah i feel like it helped out helped out a lot like with my career like and i had to realize it too because at the end of the day I would have homies from my hood even tell me about it like hey fool you need to stop saying that shit like we s's homie like you say homie sf what if you could have the most reliable wi-fi at the same price for five years that's the Xfinity five-year price guarantee no annual contracts no hidden fees and our best equipment included plus get online in minutes with same day wi-fi just five years of fiber powered wi-fi that boosts speeds to the devices that need them most lock in your price and unlock the possibilities xfinity imagine that select plans only restrictions apply powered by fiber connected to the premises by coaxial cable actual speeds vary but like you know don't be saying that shit and you know like and yeah i may slip up and say it but it's just you know it's never like with the intention of you know racism or none of that you know it's more about mexican pride rather than being like I'm worried about offending black people exactly yeah and that's why I just stopped saying it in my songs like mainly specifically in my songs because it helps me out and and it shows some type of respect you know yeah I mean my whole life like I'm just so used to like every Hispanic artist I ever listened to basically saying it for sure I definitely get the argument that it's kind of like hey if we're supposed to be like proud of being Mexican why are we gonna say a word that is so obviously from black culture like all the time and make that a part of our identity like i understand that logic but then it's like you go to places like texas and yeah the ross out there i'll be saying it like just as much as the black fools do basically yeah yeah that's it it's exactly that reason though it's just where they grew up at you know When did you get that insanely Heavy handed head tat bro Damn I got this right when Like literally the same day I shot Dove Gang Bang I got this tattoo Oh for real?

39:25Yeah the same day That's why in the music video you see it Like it's freshly inked Yeah damn near look swollen Can I get a photo of it? For the people out there Nah that shit hard So that's not a blasey tattoo Nah it was never with the intention of like you know i didn't even know about nothing personal when i got it i seen it as a tattoo like somebody got it on the side of their head and i was like oh that's hard like for the meaning for me it's norak primos you know like that's what it stands for for me so when i i got it with the intention and then he happened to get to his eyes and he seen he was like hey yo and i was just like what the is this i looked at his page start seeing the brand i'm like damn it's a hard-ass brand and he's from the cellar too yeah he's from the cellar and he was telling me about that so i was just like what like you know that's love and then he he even he even gave me some of the merch like he gave me like jackets shirts some pants uh like a belt and you know like he showed love yeah and it was all because of the tat you know like but yeah i got that shit right when i shot that music video now being a being a homie do you feel like it's kind of limiting that can't like going on tour in certain places might be dangerous i mean i mean are you down to do shows i'm in cali or washington yeah i'm down to go anywhere i'm down to go anywhere like if the money's right i'm there like you know i don't care where it is now necessarily uh involving myself with them now i'll never put myself in that situation like yeah i'll go perform whatever do my thing that's it but that's respect like making music with them?

41:01No, never. I'll never do that. Definitely. But do you feel like you can go all the way up north and perform? I mean, yeah. I feel like it'll happen one day in my career. I feel like it's bound to happen if this is what I want. So you don't hold it against the fans that they're from up north? Nah. I feel like I got a little more in there. I'll give a fuck y 'all. I mean, we see Tommy going up there and perform him, but then it feels like he's getting in situations left and right, but they don't seem like situations that he has to be getting into. He could very easily move a little bit more of a controlled way.

41:38Yeah, but I feel like problems come. There's reasons to everything. Well, it feels like mad dogging while you're performing and shit, right? Exactly. Dealable. You know, you could deal with that. But now, if you're outside and you're on your own or whatever and they're right there, you can't do nothing about it but stand your own ground. for sure but so just to ask more about the head tattoo when you got it you just do like one session for that whole one on the top yeah i did this one all one session i just had to go re-touch up because if it was like it was patching and stuff and when i had did the touch up i had that added the lettering on the inside okay yeah so but i did that shit all one this one all one did you get loaded to do it no just weed and a nick pen three's ass yeah no for real if i was gonna get a tattoo like that for sure i thought the same i was like oh i need a whole nos tank next to me but i was chilling is the nos good to get tattooed on i feel like it would be just numb your whole body well but the one thing is like anybody that has like super heavy-handed like firme head placas like that it's like loud right when you're getting it sounds super loud right right right here like when i got the the back tap this yeah it would hurt oh yeah for sure your head is the worse because it's like all right if you're getting like an arm tattoo you got all this fat and muscle over the bone and this is just like a thin layer of skin and then skull and it's just but i feel like this these ones weren't even my painful i feel like my most painful one was the one on my back that one was my worst yeah i always hear about the back being terrible but yeah that one don't hurt to me the outline is chill is when they start doing the especially his shit because it's so dark it's just giant patches of black now this one hurt This one hurt.

43:23This one not. I thought I wasn't going to make it through the whole session. And that's the Worldstar logo too? Well, this not. It's the Maserati logo. Oh, shit. Okay. I think it's pretty close. Which Worldstar re-rocked. They did, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. So you feel like you're going to get more crazy tattoos? You're going to do your face and shit? No, I feel like I won't touch my face. I feel like my face is, you know, like my moneymaker. You're a pretty boy rapper or not? No, I won't call myself a f***. Or you want the girls to be able to appreciate your look? The bitch is going to come.

43:55Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. My ex-4 had hella hoes before he got locked up. Well, you're in a relationship, right? No. You don't have a high note? Okay. How much has your quotient improved since? My boy, it comes and goes, though. Yeah? Yeah, but that's not what I'm looking for. Shit. I'm worried about my money and my music. Shit. And my baby. I feel like you've f***ing these scooms out of here. No, I ain't just fuck, fuck no. But you, like, do you fuck with, like, hood chicks? Or you fuck with, like, fangirls? Shit. Or you're, like, too new to it to have seen that side of it? I mean, I don't know.

44:35Like, I'm going to say, like, yeah, I am new to it because I just got out of, like, a long relationship. But shit, for the time, damn, it's been great. What can I say? So is your heart still broken? My heart was never broken. It was never, what? Nah, it was just, you know. Are you sure? Are you sure? Your heart's gotta hurt after a bad breakup like that. There's an icebox where his heart used to be. Nah, there's, hey, there's pain that comes with it, but you ain't gonna talk about it. I'm a man at the end of the day. You feel me, smile and I'll cry later? Yeah, we do. That type shit. Nah, man, we ain't on that John Wayne shit.

45:09We gotta let it out, loved one. You can't let it out, bro. Nah, but, yeah. Bitches, we're not worried about. They gonna come. Do you feel like, um, so there's been, there was a few lists that came out in the past couple of years, like, and they were like mentioning the top 50 and I saw rappers. I was pushing hard for you to get on that food community list. A lot of people had certain people had objections to that. Do you feel like you were overlooked? Nah. Cause, uh, I think they did have me on it. Like, but it was just, I was like far in the ranks lower. Yeah. Like I was, then I wanted, uh, I mean, people are going to have their opinions.

45:44I feel like, uh, I feel like I should have probably been farther back. Like I was thinking, I wasn't, I haven't did enough, you know, like, so that's why I'm like, I took it to the channel. I was like, damn, I appreciate where I was at. I was just surprised to be on it. That's how I seen it. Definitely. What's it been like, though, just having that reaction to your music and having people, like, start treating you like you really matter, like, in such a short period of time? It's been love, you know, like, I love it. Like, I love when I get, like, shown love in public and shit like that in front of my people.

46:15You know, it's cool. but sometimes it do put a toll on me because at the end of the day I'm a gang member. So sometimes it will be another gang member recognizing me. And I don't know if they my enemigo or they just a fan. Okay, so you've had that situation. Hell yeah, shit, some shit just happened. I think I posted that shit. Now I went to, what is it? I went to a clothes store. It was like, it was just out the city and I'm walking in, I'm walking in with my baby mama and there's two foos. They just, they recognized me. I already seen it on their face. Like, they knew me something, you know. They're just a fan, whatever.

46:48But one of them, they had, like, that spook face, and I already knew. Like, so I passed by, and I'm like, what's good? Like, you know, whatever. And all he said was one word. That's all he said was one word. That's one thing led to another. What is? Yeah, that's what it was. All it took was one word. I was like, what? He tried to say it again. He didn't even get it out of his mouth. And so all of a sudden, you're just fighting in the clothes store? Yeah, and I got the video, too. The owner sent me it. The owner, dude? The owner, yeah, because he has a page. And after he followed my Instagram, he was like, hey, like, that shit, like, that shit was funny.

47:20Like, you did your shit. Like, he's like, you want the video? I was like, send that shit. That's a chill honor. If you're getting a fight here, I'm going to be stressing. I'm definitely not sending you the video. You're going to make a fucking Instagram post about that shit. No, but that was the thing. I didn't even post it on my page. Like, I think I sent it to some random shit. Have you had any shmigos hit you up and be like, you know what? I don't fuck with you, but I actually like your music, dude. nah low key i feel like the hops amy did like they hate me so much that they if they hear my shit turn that shit off like like i feel like that's how much they hate me your videos have been pretty controversial too i'd be like do you feel like that brought like more attention from the huda and shit like most definitely i feel like i feel like for some of my cases they're trying to use some of that shit again amazon presents jeff versus taco truck salsa whether Whether it's Verde, Roja, or the orange one.

48:15For Jeff, trying any salsa is like playing Russian roulette with a flamethrower. Luckily, Jeff saved with Amazon and stocked up on antacids, ginger tea, and milk. Habanero? More like habanero, yes. Save the everyday with Amazon. It's me. Do they not understand freedom of speech? Yeah, exactly. That you're just an artist doing artistic expression. Yeah, exactly. It's all for entertainment. Are you actually going in to do a bid? Yeah, I am. I'm for sure probably going to do like over a year. Wow, okay. And when do you think you're going in? About like two months. Damn. Yeah, I'll be gone. So is that stressing you out?

48:58I mean, yeah, it's been stressful, but it's just, you know, it is what it is at the end of the day. I can't do nothing about it. Right. Take it to the gym. Damn. Is it going to be a county later or are you going to go to the Pinta? I don't know. I'm hoping I get a county so it's like the 50, you know, but whatever I get, what I get. So in the meantime, you're trying to make as much. That's why. Yeah, that's why I've been trying to do as much shit as as much as I can while I'm out here. So while I'm in there, I can at least make some type of money and have shit to drop while I'm in there. So that's what I've been on.

49:27You're getting more comfortable with interviews because I know at first you did not like doing that shit at all. Nah, I still don't. I still don't. But, you know, it helps out with my career. they want to know about the pee. So you have to like kind of practice getting used to communicating more? Yeah, and that was a thing. I was never really the type to talk, you know, like I'll talk in my music. Now I got to talk to people. Does it feel kind of like a police interrogation though? Yeah, all the time it does. I feel like every interview because I feel like there's a main one watching my shit. Right when that shit posts, click on that shit.

50:03They're the first viewers. Yeah. So that's why I try to. But you already like kind of know the stuff that you don't want to talk about. Like if if if Lush is like, hey, so tell me how many hats you got. You got to be able to be like, no, man, I don't wear hats. Besides this hat. You see, you know, you navigated around that. Splifty blue question. So, like, yeah, yeah. He's not even media trained, but he's allowed to do it. Like I'm just holding it down. I'm learning. I'm learning. You're learning. I'm learning as I go. Would you ever Rap beef With a rapper Would you ever like Really go back and forth Doing diss songs Like I mean Nah I don't see Entertainment in that I mean like I feel like it could happen I feel like But If it was the right Ah But you're not gonna go back and forth With just like Any old random Nah I'll probably Say some shit in a song But like It won't be necessary Like put their name On the whole title And shit Like you know Make it necessarily about them You know Like I'll just say some slick shit Exactly That's what I was about to say.

51:04You're known to me like the CK in Slick is sporty CK because you have a lot of bars where it's not. You have to kind of know. You gotta, yeah, you know if you know like that's what it is. But if you do know, they brutal. Yeah, that's why. That's why some of my songs, I feel like mainly like my enemies hate the song AK Official like they hate that song. Like they know why too. Like there's bars in there that they Because of what the A stands for? Yeah. Yeah, but. Just is what it is? You don't have any, like, you're going to keep putting hood disses in your music and everything like that? I mean, I tried not to, like, recently.

51:47Like, I've been trying not to, but I feel like that's what I am. Like, I've been doing that since I started rapping. Like, I'm not going to change it up for nobody. do you feel like at a certain point that kind of might restrict your growth though because yeah i feel like that's what that's that's the difficulty with the like labels and shit like that because they look at it as a like a liability like or like we're we're taking the chance of putting him on our label with the chance of like you know he's possible he could go to jail uh he could get shot you know he could get killed and so forth like shit like that you know so yeah it's it i know it does put a like a toll on me with that but it's crazy because like you know i love ebk jbo's music and he's somebody who's definitely at the level where he does not have to diss his ops anymore and you know obviously he's locked up now but like till the very end every song was just blood and guts and here's the people i don't like that's the thing yeah it's just it's just how he is like yeah you could try to make some other shit but it's just you can't when it's not real like some people can but being from like a super traditional vario like you and like area like norwalk was there people that were kind of even against you rapping period because you know i'm saying like they're like oh you should be doing corritos or you should be doing you know not necessarily not never like that they never tripped on like i feel like a lot of people were pushing me more to do it like you gotta keep putting music out there food like you gotta let the hood be known like you know yeah i never i never really had that if you don't make rap music like if nobody from your neighborhood makes rap music that's gonna really like limit the potential voice you know like anybody from a neighborhood who really gets any level of popularity rapping becomes like the voice box for the community to an extent you know and exactly that's what i i've been looked at like everything i put out is like uh as a outlook to my city you know like that's how they're gonna view my city because that's a lot of that's a lot on your shoulders because like you're a trophy for your section which already got a lot that comes with it even before you were rapping yeah i mean then you start rapping and that puts a bunch more on it and then now your entire city damn near your entire aria you know i'm saying like did you Do you feel pressure or does that inspire you?

54:12Nah, it inspires me more just to keep going because, like, at the end of the day, like, I don't see no one else doing this, like, for my city. Like, so if I ain't doing it, then who the else is going to do it, you know? It's crazy, though, because you were saying, like, the thing about not putting your opps name in the title of a song or whatever like that. But, like, this morning when I was in the gym, I just searched up Tommy Gunz, put on his shit, fourth song, boom, it's his opps dissing him. But they got his name in the title, so it just automatically gets suggested. And I'm like, damn, that is one YouTube hack that still works.

54:48Algorithm? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The algorithm basically thinks it's a song by that artist. It's crazy. And that's the thing. If I could do that, and I know it would give me some type of attraction because of it. It's a weird look. Yeah, exactly. You've got to put it in there and then take it out after a couple months. It's like on their dick too much. Or put it in the tag so nobody can see it. That might work. Do you feel like the internal beefing just because of like hood politics really holds back like, like, you know, Rasa rappers from coming together and reaching higher heights? I don't know.

55:21I just feel like the gangbanging shit is watered down now. Like, like, because people will be kicking it with rats, you know, all types of shit. And they won't even know just because they're a rapper and shit, you know, like. so that's why I'm like I try to I try to know who I'm messing with before I try to like like further my career with them like if I'm if they around me they they got to be certified official shit like that you know like what are your thoughts on like uh the fact that nowadays we see way more Mexican fools that are in crip and blood gangs than ever before and they're not I mean to be in Southsiders I feel like it's not a it's not a problem like if they're if their hood allows it then their hood allows it is just you know if they grew up there then that's that's that's what they grew up about because that's the thing we we got some blacks that grew up in the section but it's just like like you you ready for what comes with it like because still at the end of the day we got homies that are still like that still have that type of opinion towards it you know but we have no say so over it because they're the old man you know at the end of the day it's just they got to be ready for what comes with it well that just comes from like because back in the day there was way more racial tension so they still kind of are in denton like have that mind state or whatever yeah yeah exactly that's why some some do have that mindset but so if you're a black south sider and you end up in jail is it going to be tough for you or i mean yeah i feel like i feel like if you run with us like run mexican then you running with us and yeah we're gonna stand by you but i know for a fact it's gonna be harder because then they're gonna look at you yeah like some different like you know so it's just you're gonna have that on your back they're gonna for sure be confused when you sit at a certain table or like yeah exactly exactly yeah but then eventually you then be like hey it is what it is but yeah yeah i feel it so uh what what like what uh are you working on right now if you're going in in a couple months the plan just to like record as much music as possible so that you can just drop crazy while you're gone yeah right now i'm just trying to like exactly like just drop uh as much music as i can make me as much music as i can so i could drop while i'm in there and like and do as much like a i guess you could say like content and shit like just to put my name out there to get as much like uh you know uh what's the word for up a digital footprint yeah yeah exactly before i go in you know so like when i come out I'll think, oh, shit, like, no way, you know.

57:53I think you should do a 20 V 1 to see which one of these hoes is going to hold. I'll do that shit. Come on, man. We need pen pal 20 V 1 for spokes. Come on, man. Let's do it. Let's make it happen. But you got to tell the 20 verse one guy, like, hey, don't bring me no bunk ass girls. All tortas. All tortas. All tortas. It has to be because they're the ones that are going to take care of you. A pretty bitch is not going to take care of you. Yeah, while you're locked up, you need a good torta. A good torta, yeah. That's really what they're good for. You guys got me right. I'm not going to mention the rapper's name, but we've seen one recently married.

58:25A super torta. A super torta is crazy. Yeah. It's like one of those sandwiches that's like a bag would. No, those are the long ones. The lasagna torta. So what, you like fat girls or no? No, I'm not a total lover. You can't really go for that? No. You ain't really experienced a BBL yet? I mean, nah. Or nah, I actually have. I have. Oh, you have? Okay. I have. but I don't know it didn't feel right it didn't feel right it don't feel natural you know you gotta get the right one you only mess with Latinos you never mess with white girls or black girls nah my baby mama is a white girl holy shit for real but she's from like around your way she's from my city she's from my city she's a white girl but she's burnt out yeah most definitely most definitely she acts like ASA yeah is her name buena type of thing

59:20Dispenser. Oh my God. Do you think you'll sleep with a black woman before you die? I don't know. I have no problems with them, but I just don't see myself. Votto wants to bust it down on you. That's light skin though. I love me a light skin. I don't know. I don't know. You wouldn't be against it, but it is kind of hard for you to imagine. and just ending up with one in general. Yeah, exactly. I feel it. Peso got a black baby mama, so, you know. Peso. When I really think about it, I don't think I slept with a black girl until I was, like, late 20s. You don't know what you're missing. Trust me. But it was the first girl that I slept with with, like, a fake ass and fake tits.

1:00:03Well, not first fake tits, but, like, she had all the surgery. I'm talking, like, 2010. Before it was, like, super popular. Yeah, where it's, like, so normal. Well, now I felt like I had hit the lottery. Was that a life-changing moment for a young player? I'm not going to say it was life-changing, especially because I figured out that a bunch of my other homies had already f***ed her, but I was still pretty geeked. I would have been too soon, just like, hey, you know, like, fake titties. I got to look her up, but I feel like she has such a common name that I'm not going to be able to look her up.

1:00:35We're going to find her. I'll help you, Adam. What's her name? Who's like the hottest Mexican chick? Like in terms of like celebrities or whatever Or high note rappers Could be a rapper, could be a model

1:00:58Okay let's do this Mary Kill Alright Mary Kill P Killa Jenny 6ix9ine And Bella the Rapper Bella the rapper Who the f*** is that? He knows, he knows I think you brought it through here, right? Damn That's a tough one, huh? Damn Mary Killah, brother Damn I'll probably kill P-Killer P-Killer Yeah, I'll probably kill P-Killer Cause she P-Killer, I don't know Then I'll f*** Jenny6ix9ine and then he's marrying Bella the Rapper. She looks wiping material. That's why she never know. If you don't pay, what'd she say? I'm sick. She's by my name. All right. I respect the answer. I would have saved P-Killer personally, but.

1:01:53Nah, she pretty. Hell yeah. Nah, I only said that because she P-Killer. Like, I got to kill her. Yeah. She's kind of cute, but she's like overexposed. So she got to die. Whoa. I mean, this is Mary Kill. It's like. Yeah, yeah. In the context. One third of the people involved in this have to die. So, I mean, number one, you're from Texas. Yeah, that's not a good thing. Yeah, and I mean, Jenny's from Riverside. It's the same shit. Even worse. Yeah, it's worse. But, yeah, I mean, Pete Killa, she got to die. I'll save them all. She got to die. She's going to buy promo. Pete Killa needs to die. She got to die.

1:02:31If so, Mary Jane was in the equation, would that kind of change the dynamic here? Do you know who she is or not? Yeah, he knows. Yeah, I'll probably leave her in the same category. Does she don't hang out with P. Killer anymore? No, they ops. Okay. P. Killer performed a diss track in front of her, like, on stage. It was insane. Yo, that's fire, because you would never see dudes do that. Right? Yeah. I'll do that. Yeah, but, like, your ops would have been pretty pathetic to just sit there and take it. Yeah. Get through the first bar, and then that's it. Yeah. You got to light that bitch up. Yeah, imagine.

1:03:05like it just becomes a shootout mid-show like you gotta throw a chair or something macho man ready savage type shit do you uh do you feel like your success is is motivating your ops to start rapping as well oh yeah i feel like i started rapping and then like a few of the enemigos they started rapping right after me and i feel like the shit i'll never hate anybody like they they had some hard shit like shit but it ain't harder than mine turn the whole area up Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can be the innovator. Yeah. And that was a thing. When I dropped one of my songs, we had the same beat.

1:03:41And my shit went up. You got to do the grimy shit and get their shit taken down. Oh, no. We did already. Oh, you did? We did already. I was thinking about that because. That's my beat. Because Dream Life Rizzy has a song called EBK Killer. Right. And they got it taken down initially because of the beat. Well. We had to re-upload it. Because it was like the 5K shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen that shit. It was the same beat as some J-Bo shit. And at this point. All they have is the video. Type beats are so crazy, especially like now there's a sporty CK type beats. Yeah. Like the homies, like my artist is wrapped on sporty CK type beats.

1:04:15Like, like, how does that make you feel? Is that like, damn. That's sick. I be using those shits too. Hell yeah. Do you feel like, what do you, what do you feel like is different about the way you make music than all the other like rappers in LA, particularly the other essays? I be writing. Like I'm more of a writer. You don't punch. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not a, like a punch in type of guy. I be writing my shit All of my best songs are written I've done songs too Where like I punched in Did bar for bar But I feel like they're not my best I feel like my best ones Are when I'm sit down Writing it And shit You're like a one You don't like to do like You're like a one take rapper Like if you have like If you mess up You're gonna start the whole verse over Yeah yeah Oh no most definitely That's why I like to go in the studio With my shit fully written Where I just go up in there And make my song And then boom I'm not wasting time in there like you know but definitely pretty treacherous videos though bro i gotta say some of the most treacherous in la yeah definitely um have you thought at all about uh doing music with black artists to kind of expand your fan base yeah yeah i've been doing music like i got a song with the he's with the the management bz2 janky oh yeah i've seen that yeah we've Yeah, I got a song.

1:05:32I'm about to drop that shit. As soon as I saw that, though, I was like, oh, for sure he's got a beef with the dudes that pressed him in the one hood vlog. They're from a whole other area. Oh, okay. I was just assuming. Yeah, yeah. That's why I think those people were like from Avenues, essentially. Right. Yeah. But that's not nothing to do with you? No, no, no. That's not. Did you think that was out of pocket? That was weird. That was sketched for sure on all sides. You know, like, I feel like that was set up. Like, you know. You feel like Rodney set it up? I feel like somebody set it up I ain't gonna throw no blame No, I'm not trying to diss Rodney I feel like somebody set it up Because there's no way that shit just Randomly happens to happen Just both pop up banging in Chinatown Yeah, exactly Some shit had to be said For them to be right there As far as Outside of L.A.

1:06:24What we see with a lot of gangster and drill rappers is they'll collab with fools from other regions like Vaughn doing songs with EBK, J-Bo and things like that is there other fools in different states and regions that you feel like it would be a sick collab? that I haven't got one yet yeah like some fools from Florida or New York oh like that I never damn I never really looked outside of like other than like like cali rap you know like i just saw his own little world yeah he totally is but i just saw a whole video about new york southsiders you feel me like sardinios from new york they got that yeah there's a whole hood in satin island you put some barrio and uh yeah i would you know be possibly an interesting to see your reaction to that or if that could be i would like to see that apparently there's homies out there holding it down they're blew up from the shoe up too so I'm blew it up on the show up.

1:07:22It's a little ass island. It is a little island. Shout out Staten Island. Yeah. Shaolin style. Okay, so what's your message to the people before we wrap this up? What do you want the world to know about you? Shit, I'm a good guy, dog. Nah, but, nah, like, I'm genuine. I do this shit with a passion. Like, I'm doing this shit for my city, my baby, my pops. Like, that's what I stand for. And y 'all gonna see that. And, you know, it's just a matter of time where I'm going to be somewhere in life, you know. But I give all glory to God. All praises to Jesus Christ. That's good, man. Sporty CK, appreciate you pulling up and getting this interview in.

1:08:04And much luck with your rap career, this little bid that you got to go do, and everything else, man. Put money on the homies' books. Put money on the books. I need it. my guy went from you feel me getting getting shot you know again having big scars of being joined it up and one of the most important rappers in the game so show him some love straight up my gang we out sure appreciate you bro sporty shout out to lush nojumber coolest podcast in the world check us on youtube tiktok instagram all that shit like comment and subscribe and we will be reading the comments and shout out to all our members who got to see this early appreciate y 'all

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