In short
The episode is a wide-ranging discussion mixing Miami “streaming club” business talk, drug/party speculation, and several high-profile beefs and controversies.
Guests/participants
The transcript is mostly a conversation between two hosts (Adam “No Jumper” and Wack). It also references people they discuss rather than having them on-air: Clav and Vlad (Vlad is discussed as a potential interview partner for Clav), Boosie (discussed about his upcoming Vlad-free interview on Patreon), and multiple No Jumper cast members (Spodyface, Doughboy, Flakko, Lush, Munchie B, Nephew, Almighty Suspect). No clear on-air guest introductions appear beyond the two main hosts.
Key claims
- The “sweatsuit” only dehydrates you; the host argues it doesn’t burn extra fat.
- A new Wednesday “streamers night” club performed +38% and drew a different crowd; streamer clout beats safety concerns despite Miami drug use.
- Boosie splitting from Vlad is framed as emotional/pride-driven; the hosts debate whether Boosie will miss Vlad’s questioning style and cross-promotion.
- A federal case involving J.R./J. Smith Jr. and “Ben 10” is discussed with claims about tapes, self-defense vs. standing over someone, and possible cooperation pressure.
- “Spody Fatigue” is described as audience frustration with Spodyface arguing about everything, including contentious claims about LGBTQ populations and education.
Notable examples
- GHB confusion and a story about someone accidentally drinking it.
- Blueface and Clav/Clive being involved in the streaming-club plan.
- A fight that ends with a handshake and crowd reaction.
- Spodyface vs. Doughboy fade talk and the “fight camp” delay.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODebate on Sauna Suits and Weight Loss
0:45 to 3:00
The hosts debate the effectiveness of sauna suits for weight loss.
“I mean, I'm telling you, that's all that suit does is make you dehydrated.”
Club Launch and Crowd Insights
3:00 to 5:00
The hosts discuss the successful launch of a new club night and its unique crowd.
“I don't know what he, I don't even know if he overdosed.”
Incident Before the Club Opening
5:00 to 8:00
The hosts discuss an incident involving a potential overdose the night before the club opened.
“He said, it slips in the cup, and he sips it.”
The New Wave of Clubbers and Their Vibe
8:00 to 12:00
Discussion about the new crowd in clubs and how they behave differently from traditional club-goers.
“Blueface and Clive was on the stage up top.”
Clav and Vlad's Upcoming Content
12:00 to 14:00
The hosts speculate about Clav's interview with Vlad and its potential impact.
“When it comes to certain businesses, this what it is.”
Boosie's Upcoming Interview Dynamics
14:01 to 16:46
Discussion on Boosie’s potential interview style and content changes without Vlad.
“So, you know, not having Vlad in front of you because Vlad leads you and it's just your response and then it turns it with its turn.”
Vlad's Approach to Interviews
16:47 to 19:16
Analysis of Vlad's interview strategies and artist relationships.
“Even the people who come on his platform that don't have their own platform, like a Tony Yayo, what's he do?”
Boosie's Business Decisions
19:17 to 22:17
Exploring the implications of Boosie's recent choices and their financial impact.
“they're going to move on to somebody else that they feel moves the needle and maybe isn't as expensive.”
The Emotional Side of Boosie's Choices
22:18 to 24:56
Delving into the emotional factors influencing Boosie's decision-making process.
“well, you're making money off memberships as well, and I helped to build up your membership program.”
Legal Troubles and Implications
24:57 to 28:00
Discussion on JR's legal issues and the potential consequences of his actions.
“He does have a point, but it's like that is part of what Vlad was paying for.”
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Legal Implications of the Shooting Incident
28:00 to 29:10
Explore the complexities of self-defense laws in a shooting case.
“They let him tell the story and they lined it up with the tapes.”
The Aftermath and Concealment of Evidence
29:10 to 30:30
Discover the potential consequences of leaving a crime scene with a weapon.
“I was talking to somebody who seems like they're sort of close to this case.”
Evaluating J.R.'s Involvement
30:30 to 32:20
Analyze J.R.'s role and the implications of his actions in the case.
“And I, and, and I think that they know dude was involved in whatever went on.”
The Downfall of Ego in Street Culture
32:20 to 36:10
Discuss how ego-driven actions can lead to serious consequences in street culture.
“and from his action came the assault and the shooting.”
Doughboy vs. Sporty Face: A Brewing Conflict
36:10 to 39:40
Delve into the tensions between Doughboy and Sporty Face that lead to a challenge.
“I don't know what you got going on or what little meeting you had.”
The Podcast's Unique Dynamics
39:40 to 42:00
Examine the culture within the No Jumper podcast and its impacts on guests.
“I mean, Spody Face said, like, I will pull up today and fight you in the parking lot, which I was like, hey, please, we don't need to do this in the parking lot.”
Drunken Podcasting Dilemmas
42:00 to 42:55
The hosts discuss incidents involving intoxication during the podcast.
“We're trying to get it back up, but the file did not save to YouTube correctly.”
Spody Face Fatigue Emerging
42:55 to 44:11
The conversation shifts to the growing fatigue among fans regarding Spody Face's argumentative style.
“cause they'll line his ass up I don't know about that but I will you got females there you don't know who they tied to bro he had his people with him but the one thing Wasn't nobody with him that day.”
Debating Population Percentages
44:11 to 45:24
A heated discussion on the LGBTQ+ population percentages between LA and San Francisco.
“but there's a new thing emerging in the No Jumper fan base that they're calling.”
Frustrations of Black Women
45:24 to 47:14
The hosts explore the frustrations of some black women regarding their partners' dating choices.
“Consistently ranking as having the highest concentration of gay individuals.”
Intelligence in Street Culture
47:14 to 49:09
Discussion on the intelligence of individuals in gang culture versus formal education.
“You hurting and harming people on the blocks, right?”
The Debate on Education
49:09 to 50:22
The hosts debate the value of college education and its influence on intelligence.
“They've been speaking Ebonics so goddamn long, that's really how they talk to their mother, to whoever.”
Character Conflicts on the Podcast
50:22 to 52:40
Discussion around the character dynamics and conflicts between Spody Face and other podcasters.
“you're confusing a dude that's hustling, right?”
Racial Dynamics and Humor
52:40 to 55:08
Exploration of race in humor and the contrast between comedic and gang values.
“Dude sitting there, he really don't add nothing to the conversation.”
Identity Struggles in the Public Eye
56:00 to 58:00
The discussion revolves around the identity crisis faced by certain individuals in the public eye, particularly regarding authenticity and alignment with cultural backgrounds.
“You think they were always lumped together like that even before the end of that era?”
Analyzing Humor and Racial Sensitivity
58:00 to 1:01:00
Explores the complexities of humor related to race and how cultural perceptions can lead to misunderstandings.
“Like Jake Paul, when he said, I'm going to go do blackface, I'm looking forward to seeing it.”
The Dejan vs. TDE Controversy
1:01:00 to 1:08:30
Delves into the feud between Dejan and TDE, including allegations of homophobia and the implications for both parties involved.
“So TDE Punch is like, you know, you know, you know them guys.”
Consequences of Burning Bridges
1:08:30 to 1:10:01
Discusses the repercussions faced by Dejan after his controversial actions and relationships with major players in the music industry.
“It's like, bro, if me and T-Rail and AD and everybody who's had a bad relationship with him on this side isn't bad enough on the podcast side of things, now he's creating enemies with the biggest label on the West Coast.”
Tattoo Loyalty and No Jumper Dynamics
1:10:01 to 1:13:45
Learn about the significance of tattoos and loyalty in the No Jumper community.
“If you start doing some shit or the shit stop adding up, he'll get rid of your ass and that no jumper tattoo.”
50-50 Yards and Street Culture
1:13:46 to 1:18:12
Discussion on the dynamics of 50-50 yards and their implications in street culture.
“Hey, listen, I don't participate in my activities.”
Tour Insights and Audience Engagement
1:18:13 to 1:21:08
Insights on current music tours and audience engagement challenges.
“The people on 50, 50 yards been finding all these dudes paperwork.”
San Diego's Musical Landscape and Challenges
1:21:09 to 1:24:01
Explore San Diego's music scene and challenges faced by local artists.
“There's not enough tours these days, you know?”
Mitchie and San Diego's Music Scene
1:24:01 to 1:26:34
Explore the struggles and resilience of San Diego's music scene, focusing on Mitchie Slick's journey.
“Shout out and see one thing about Mitchie and I got to put it on his back because he been the one kicking the doors in along with Big Reese and a couple other cats who've been a part of this shit.”
Beyond San Diego: Hip Hop's Geography
1:26:35 to 1:29:02
Discuss the lack of mainstream rappers from various U.S. cities and the implications for hip hop culture.
“You got even cats from the Bay know they got to come down.”
The Challenges of Emerging Artists
1:29:03 to 1:31:44
Address the difficulties faced by new artists in gaining traction in the competitive music industry.
“But even Philly don't really have, like, popping rappers coming out of there, even though, obviously, they produce a lot of big ones over there.”
Ice Spice Incident Discussion
1:31:45 to 1:36:44
Analyze the recent incident involving Ice Spice and the public's reaction to it.
“right now, kind of cold from a musical perspective.”
Reflections on Fame and Privacy
1:36:45 to 1:38:01
Consider the challenges of privacy for celebrities and the realities of living in the public eye.
“I don't know Why are they emphasizing Wendy's?”
Discussion on Celebrity Behavior
1:38:01 to 1:38:30
Explores why celebrities, like Ice Spice, might choose to engage in everyday activities.
“I went into a fucking Shake Shack the other day, sat my ass down, and read Twitter, and ate my fucking burger and fries, and didn't even think twice about it.”
Consequences of Criminal Actions
1:38:31 to 1:41:31
Analyzes the severe repercussions faced by individuals involved in serious criminal activities.
“But you think they're gonna like allow that to happen to him?”
Insights on Prison Culture
1:41:32 to 1:43:20
Discusses the brutal realities of prison life and the fate of those who commit heinous crimes.
“Even like all the artists who've done music with him took down their collabs, which is pretty damning.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Back in the sweatsuit. Man, I done lost 10 pounds. Boy, I told you I'm on a mission. Down 10. Dehydrated. Boy. Nah, I mean... That's all that suit does, you know that, right? Boy, shit. What do you think it does? No, it don't. What do you think it does? It's like going in the sauna. Yeah, but what do you think the sauna does? Well, I'll go in the sauna, but it's not like the sauna does anything besides dehydrate you. I mean, you know, you gotta drink your water in the sauna and make you sweat. Yeah. You gotta drink water either way. Hey, make you knock. You going in there, you ain't drinking your water.
0:31Your ass finna die. Pass out. The goal is to lose body fat, not water. Well, I'm going to tell you this. Since I've been cut all the bullshit out, wearing my suit and running, I didn't drop 10 in a week. 10 pounds. No. Ain't no water. I mean, I'm telling you, that's all that suit does is make you dehydrated. It just makes you lose water. You do it your way. I guarantee you next week. I'm telling you, you cannot find one person on earth who thinks that you're going to lose extra fat because you're wearing that suit. Oh. I run it. I do everything in it. That's hot. Okay, so what were you doing last week that you weren't able to come to the podcast?
1:18Baccarat. I had to. I liked your original name better. Club Stream. Well, it's going to convert over, but the liquor license. It would have delayed shit. So you had to take on the name of the existing club? And then we just, we're setting the night. So everybody knows that Wednesday night is a streamer's night. Okay. And usually you lose 20 % on a launch of a new night. Okay. You go in there expecting to lose 20 % because it's a new night. You know, people, it builds up. We was plus 38. Wow. Plus 38 % there. The good thing about it is it was a total different crowd. It was none of the people that goes to other nights.
2:05What do you mean? Because, you know, if you got a Thursday night and a Friday night and a Saturday night, right? You know, one night where it be Latin, one night where it be urban or whatever. So people will look on the website and they'll see, okay, what a club I with on this night is doing something. What are they doing? So we're paying attention to see if it was a mixture of the other nights there. All total different, young, like look like our guys. Pointing at the Edgars. Yeah. I'm not going to any club full of them. Nah, it was cool, bro. And you know them dudes, it was like about maybe six, seven streamers.
2:41Had their streaming equipment. And they were like tripping out when they got to the door. Do you feel like you deserve any of the blame for clavicular overdosing the night before the club opened? No, because it happened the night before. It happened the night of. You weren't there? I was already in Miami. Okay. I was there when I got the call, but. Did you supply the ketamine? I don't know what he, I don't even know if he overdosed. I mean, did he overdose? I don't know. That's actually like pretty unconfirmed. When I seen him. You saw him getting carried out of the club he was in or whatever.
3:09I heard all kind of shit. You know, I don't be knowing the drug lane. What I kept hearing was GH something. GHB. GHB. And when I asked somebody what it was, it was like, it makes you feel drunk, but you're not drunk. I don't know. I don't know how drugs work. You want to shut me up. You go to talk about these new drugs. I don't know how that works. I think what you are actually passionate about, the same way that some people are addicted to talking about drugs, you're addicted to talking about how you don't understand drugs. No, I understand them. Because my family. But you love to tell us about how you don't know or get drugs.
3:47No, the new wave drugs. In my era. Crack. Powder, crack, marijuana, PCP, Heron. We heard about the pills, but it was like my mother's done. We had yellow jackets and red devils. It really wasn't a thing. But this new shit. Like, bro, if you said perks or whatever this shit you call in front of me, I wouldn't know what it was. I still don't know what fentanyl look like. I don't know what it looks like. Yeah, I mean it's like a powder or a pill. Like most of the things. I don't know. And then they're telling me like crystal or whatever. I guess you smoke crystal. I guess they tooting crystal. I don't be knowing.
4:30I know what shrooms look like. Mushrooms. I know what that look like. But when it comes to like how this GHG, I don't know if it's a pill or something. It's liquid. it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. It looks like water, actually. I had a friend who drank a huge cup of it one time by accident, and he had a pretty rough night. I told you when Draco started coming to my studio, you remember that shit? I'm asking them. I said, hey, bro, who the f*** got a pellet gun around here? I said, I see, because it looked like little COT. They like, nah, bro, you know, bro, cup. I'm like, what do you mean?
5:02He said, it slips in the cup, and he sips it. And I'm sitting there, and I thought about him sitting in my office. I'm like, yo, that's a gas is going straight to your brain. So what percentage of this club do you own? Or what is your involvement? No, I put the whole play together. Because remember, he was banned. Yeah. He was banned from all those clubs, Vendome, Mona, which you went to Mona, and Baccarat. He was banned. All of them are partners. So once he told me that when I went to his house, you set that up, really. He was trying to get me and Blueface up there. So we finally made our way up there.
5:39And when he was telling me, I'm like, those are all my business partners. I do other shit with them. So when I called him, they was like, I called him on FaceTime. They like, oh, no. Like, they was like, oh, hell no. I said, yo, man, he's a good kid, man. He's 20 years old, 19, whatever he is. Yo, whack, you know what he did? So they told me what it was. I said, okay, what about all the shit you did? You know, we didn't do some shit. And they like, well, you vouching for him? I said, listen, I got an idea. and I told him what it was. I set it up for the next day. I said, I want you to come up here and meet him.
6:11They said, if he's on point and you vouch for him, we'll come meet him. So they went up there, sat with him, and they called me. I'm like, what you got in mind? I'm like, bro, y 'all should do a streaming club. Change it up. The rappers, all the promoters be telling me, they want R &B now. They say the rappers, motherfuckers are getting robbed. Motherfuckers are scared. Really? The crowd ain't really spending no money. Now, you got to keep it real when it comes to these, little dudes, they got a little money. The streamers? The streamers and they little fans. They mamas and daddies got I don't know, you know, they money right.
6:43Their fans are like party boys and just regular people more so. So when I fed it to them, and we're only like maybe half of what it is because the name got to change. They're going to set the booths up with streaming shit just in case you just pop up and ain't got it. You can still go ahead on and log in and I guess connect to whatever your shit is, how your thing going. But I'm like, they like bro what about the equipment it's kind of like i said bro they ain't coming in with no guns or knives these dudes don't want them problems they want to get drunk talk and fucking blog and stream bro and scream at the chat and sure enough them dudes was coming in with their cameras dudes was pulling up because they was seeing it happen and it was a total different crowd and these dudes was paying like three thousand for what's the what's the chinese looking bottle the white one with the bell on him.
7:34You know what I'm talking about with the bell on the top? Bro, I'm watching these motherfucking bottles roll out. I'm tripping. And these dudes is coming in. Adam, let me tell you what was the coolest part about it. They showed up like they really dressed. You know, they just throw on some fucking sweats and whatever and they was just in there chilling. I'm sitting here watching it and they going to each other's sections, you know, talking to one another. It was a good vibe. It used to be such a big deal to like get dressed up for the club but nowadays like you look at like a stream you see Aiden Ross wearing sweatpants you see neon dressed like whatever it's like kind of hard to like carry that over when the most important people in the club are not dressed up at all.
8:16Actually it was one fight. Oh yeah? Blueface and Clive was on the stage up top. Okay. And in front a fight broke out. What kind of people? It was like two like little white dudes so I told the security like bag up So they thumped for about seven, eight seconds. And then they kind of like looked at each other and acknowledged they got something in. They shook each other's hands and the crowd went, oh, Chad, Chad, Chad, turn the music. So it was like, bro, now I really felt like a fucking unk in this shit. Oh, yeah. I feel that. So I found me a little corner and went over there and just observed.
8:58and when I saw all the liquor going out and everybody just how packed it was, it's going to really go down. You know, F1 weekend is coming. It's going to be crazy. So we got to get DDG over there because he's a rapper streamer. That's why I sent Blueface because he's a rapper streamer. I didn't want to just send a rapper in there, send someone in there. Then Blueface had his streaming team in there. It was cool. Some cool shit, man. So, you know, now, bro, I'm not going to lie to you. And don't take this wrong. when you went out there I called all the clubs and all of them was like whack you say that shit man we gonna try to get him in here but when they went to cross check with the people that sell their tables and all that they wasn't that crowd wasn't familiar with Adam but that streaming club they know f***ing Adam you see what I'm saying they wasn't like whack we know him because we watch you and we know what no jumper is but that other crowd wasn't too familiar.
9:59But now this one, and it's like that with a lot of these streamers, bro, they go over, they don't know the fuck they are, but like, and it's gonna be more to pop up. Yeah, I don't really see myself being like the natural host for the average Miami club. I wanna be real. But now if you got a club, a night, that's just straight about streaming, that's your lane. That's the question, though, is like, do people want to be at a club where they can almost be guaranteed to be streamed, given that a lot of people are doing serious narcotics when they go out in Miami. I honestly think that the desire for clout overrides that.
10:36Yeah. I feel like people don't really care about being on camera, whacked out of their mind on Molly or Coke if they can get some clout. Do you not understand how many people in your chat or in these dudes' chat would love to actually be on the fucking stream? Mm. You know, that's the psyche with it. Now, bro, people was pulling up. They was pulling up. They like, whack, come look at this shit. I come in the front. They pull like, yo, is this the streaming club? They park it. They jumping out. They violate. They didn't give a fuck. I'm like, whack, they got shorts on. I'm like, fuck all that. Let them in.
11:08Well, you know who I just connected that you might be seeing some content from soon is Clav and Vlad. Oh, that's a good, that's a good, hey, listen. The question is, will Clav be willing to do a Vlad interview that isn't on stream because he did Andrew Callahan on stream. He did 60 Minutes on stream. Traditionally so far, he's kind of been unwilling to do any kind of content that isn't streamed. I might have to call that one in. I might have to call Nephew. Yeah, I mean, if that's a sticking point, maybe we could convince him. You know that's Vlad. That's bro. You know he at the table. So definitely anything we could do to help him.
11:43But it was a it was listen, it was a wild card. It was a thought I had. It was really a spontaneous thought. It's something that I knew is the wave. You know, one thing you know that about me, Adam, is I'm not I'm not caught up in the alley. You're right. I understand. Like when she is moving a certain way in regards to what you feel, if you think something is some bitch ass nigga shit, I ain't gangster enough. When it comes to certain businesses, this what it is. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I'm going to always jump in that lane to go shake some hands and get to know some people.
12:16It's interesting how much less Clav has been streaming, though. He's like hasn't been on nearly as much as he was for a while. He did the 30 day stream. Yeah, 30 days, more or less. And then he's kind of chilled out since then. Like I just checked, he's not live right now. So he's maybe trying to live a little bit more of a balanced life. I know we I know we got a lot set up for him for the F1 shit. so we you know we highlight make sure my people um you know they host a lot of the shit that come in town so he's gonna be your you're gonna see him have one week like involved and shit you're gonna be how the fuck did he get to that right so it's been his part speaking of Vlad how are you feeling about what will surely be one of the best interviews of the year that's dropping tomorrow which is Boosie's first interview on his own platform it's going to be on Patreon I signed up for a free membership to his Patreon.
13:08I don't think he has the actual tier listed where you have to pay yet, but I'm very much interested to see what he's going to bring to the table now that he's split with Vlad. We're not going to know about the third one. I'm going to tell you why. The first one, I'm still going to give credit to Vlad. Okay. Because everybody's going to tune in to see what he's doing different. Probably some truth to that. From Vlad, right? And then I'm going to be real. Like you and Vlad kind of got the same edge on people. Early adopters. No, you can sit in a seat, but it's the person on the other side of you that initiate, guides, right?
13:47And enhances the conversation. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. I've sat in that seat with Anhefe and Flocker on 600 with two other people, three other people, right? And it's a total different thing. So, you know, not having Vlad in front of you because Vlad leads you and it's just your response and then it turns it with its turn. So the first one I think people are going to go check it out to see how it's going to be. I think if it's questioning, if he has somebody questioning him, anything like the way Vlad does, people are going to be turned off by it. See, that's the thing. I guess allegedly it's his kid interviewing him the first time.
14:28I don't know which kid, but somebody who's definitely not a professional journalist or interviewer who's going to be doing the question asking, which to me seems like a real problem because the most obvious things that jump out to me that Boosie would talk about if he were to do a Vlad interview right now is let's talk about Gucci telling them Poo Shiesty. Let's talk about Ben 10 getting shot and potentially paralyzed by All-Star. Let's talk about the J. Prince Jr. aspect of that, etc. These are all questions that Bousy does not really want to talk about because Bousy does not like talking about criminal investigations.
15:03Vlad makes him. And Vlad, they've acknowledged that Vlad behind the scenes will tell him, like, listen, you don't have to do anything that's approaching or equivalent to telling. You just have to like give your opinion on the stuff that's out there in the news. And sometimes Boosie, like in those clips that will get a million views, he'll kind of like not really be saying much, but he'll say a little something. And then cool, Vlad gets his clip that gets a lot of views. But I mean, doing it on his own, I really kind of doubt that Boosie's even going to want to touch on that subject matter because it's going to maybe look different.
15:36But who knows? Maybe he'll kick it into high gear and just say, all right, now that I'm working for myself, why hold back and say a bunch of shit that he wouldn't have said on Vlad? But guess what's dumb about that? Yeah. He just could have been Flacco. Even though we don't see him around here much, but you never restricted Flacco from doing his own. He could have still did Vlad, picked up his 100 a year, and still did that and utilized Vlad to cross-promote that. I don't know. I think somebody got in his head with the, you know, you're this, you're that. He don't want to admit it. the 6ix9ine factor definitely kicked in, but you're not 6ix9ine.
16:12You're making more money than 6ix9ine because if 6ix9ine got paid like 50 once throughout the year, you're getting paid double that, right? So, you know, let's just be real. Everybody's not the same, bro. You know what I mean? 6ix9ine doing his first tell-all interview is way different than Boosie doing his 18th f***ing Vlad interview. This is what I'm saying. Where they don't really have any stories left about Boosie to talk about. Now they got to talk about current events, et cetera. and the whole thing about that is that like if we were to scroll through Vlad's channel I watch his channel like every day so I'm well aware of this is like almost every single person on Vlad has their own YouTube channel and really that's like how Vlad finds out about most of his guests is that he looks at YouTube and he says oh shit Osquino is doing pretty good on YouTube and I watch his content and he's funny and he's got some good takes and everything so I'm gonna hit him up and boom, now he's a regular guest.
17:08Even the people who come on his platform that don't have their own platform, like a Tony Yayo, what's he do? Once he's on Vlad 10 times, he goes and gets a podcast deal. You know, someone like you goes on Vlad, but obviously part of the idea is like, oh, if you really like Wack, go check out Wack's channel. Go check out the other things Wack has going on. That's real. With Boosie, he's acting like it's an either or, and I saw that clip that actually came out today where you were asking Vlad questions about the Boosie thing, and it seemed like the whole situation was a little bit more personal than vlad wanted to let on at first because he described how bucey actually hung up on him and called him cheap which to vlad because like vlad really uh not a gangster but he's a man of respect he cares a lot about respect uh i think for me personally over the years i've kind of realized that sometimes you have to sort of be willing to be disrespected to be a good uh podcaster and you need to take people who disrespected you back and you need to be willing to do business with them and stuff and i think that uh vlad has even kind of acknowledged that he sort of got that from me to a certain extent where he realized that he needed to be a little bit more open to building the bridge with people who he felt like did him wrong in the past but with boosie it does seem like there's going to be a hump to get over if he does go back to vlad because vlad really did not appreciate the way that he acted in all of this.
18:28Yeah, he hung the phone up on him. Yeah. He told me that. He called him cheap. Even though like Boosie was effectively asking Vlad to work for free, which is kind of offensive. You know, if you want to be somebody who has a long career in the music business, like we all know artists are trying to get paid as much as they can to perform at clubs. But if you know for a fact that when you ask for a 50 ball to go to the club and perform, that the host is not going to be able to make a dollar profit on that you've really priced yourself out of being able to consistently do business meanwhile we do see a lot of artists who are able to tour and perform at clubs consistently because they set their rate at an amount that is good it's worth doing it for them but ultimately the promoter of the club are still able to make some money because if you are constantly pushing for more and more at a certain point they're just going to lose interest and they're going to move on to somebody else that they feel moves the needle and maybe isn't as expensive.
19:23Now that you're giving the people the white boy way of looking at things. Okay, let's hear yours. That gives you the educated corporate thug way of looking at things. You put Boosie in that category? Yeah, I'm definitely gonna put him over there. I know what he's looking at. This is what he's looking at, right? Okay. You give me$25 ,000. Mm-hmm. And you're telling me, out of that you make your money back and you profit$10 ,000. Yeah. What y 'all white folks don't want to put in there, respectfully, is people keep watching this. So what about the revenue that continues to come three months, 90 days, six months from the same clip?
20:11What Vlad is talking about is that first week sales. I get it. But we all know that those clips continue to get viewed. It may, you know, if it makes another 10, 15, 20 grand, Bootsy sees none of that. And when you're dealing with an independent person like Bootsy who understands that building the way I do, this is probably what's crossing through his mind. Well, shit, all right, yeah, we breaking even on that first week bang. But I don't get a dime of what's continuing to come in off these views. here's the thing about that is that back in the day it was more true than when you interviewed somebody and you got a good clip or whatever that it would do well as time went by nowadays youtube is so flooded with content that i can speak from my perspective it is extremely rare that we will post a clip and it will get any significant amount of views past the first let's say week or two weeks or whatever.
21:14Now, once in a while you hit on a clip with a title that's so good and so interesting that the algorithm really f***s with it and it just keeps doing well and the algorithm suggests it to people and stuff like that. But if I look at an interview clip that I did from six months ago, if it's even got like a thousand views or 2000 views in the last 30 days, I look at that as like, oh, that's a very high performing clip. So from my perspective as a person who does essentially the same business that Boosie does, if I do an interview with Boosie, after the first 30 days, we have already seen 95 % of the income that that clip is ever going to make.
21:56Now, let's rock with that. If Boosie has done for a year, five times four is another 20%, right? In his head, I'm going to tell you. And listen, I believe he should have kept his dealing plate personally. I believe Boosie made a wrong decision. The best argument, honestly, that Boosie could throw out there is, well, you're making money off memberships as well, and I helped to build up your membership program. No, he can't do that. I agree. He shouldn't do it, but if I was Boosie, I would probably be jumping on that because that's at least like a coherent argument. Yeah. And I think that's the way he's seeing it because he's like, yo, because I heard him say, well, what about the other money you continue to make?
22:40Right. And I don't know if he was talking about the memberships. And when he said that, I understand that shit in music. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, you making this today. Right. It's just like when we do concerts. Right. We make sure we put in there that if you go take this, you record this and put it somewhere, we got to get cut in because you may take this shit and go sell it over here. and make some more money. So I think he may, and this weather, this climate, he shouldn't have cut himself out of that. Call it what you want, that 100 where he lives at probably took care of his mortgage and motherfucking property tax for a year.
23:20On some real shit. He ain't out here with us. Our shit is what it is. He out there in the South somewhere. You know what I'm saying? If Boosier just launched his own channel and said, hey, I'm going to be doing my own interviews as well, and then went and did a Vlad interview, Boosie could have talked about the fact that he was doing his own interviews the entire time and Vlad would have let him. Vlad would have said, hey, I support you. I'm happy that you started your own channel. I think it's great. We're still going to do interviews, et cetera. I think really, yeah, it was some weird pride shit where he got pissed off because Vlad wasn't willing to budge.
23:50Somebody got in his ear, bro. Somebody got in his ear. Whoever told him to go do the Patreon thing, now he's about to figure out. that it ain't as easy. You know this shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not as easy. I don't think he's going to put, see him showing up three, four times a year to Vlad? It's regular shit. He got to put time and consistency into building that channel. You get what I'm saying? And you know that takes a team. That takes these topics. Yeah. You know what I mean? And is he going to stay dedicated to that? Because you got to want to do it. Because honestly, like him doing his own interviews on his own YouTube channel is not that different than somebody like Blueface saying, hey, I'm going to become a streamer.
24:33Now, granted, like, honestly, Blueface would be smart if he started doing interviews on his own platform as well. It's not the worst idea I ever heard, but, you know, Blueface does streams, makes his own content, makes money off it. It's a nice side revenue stream for him. Doing great. Boosie, same thing. It's like a little bit more structured doing like sit-down interviews as opposed to just hanging out in the studio with a bunch of chicks on Twitch or whatever. but I just think that like Boosie made an emotional decision and it's interesting that when you say like oh like somebody got in his ear he just put out a clip that I saw Akri posted in which he basically says that he built Vlad in a lot of ways like oh everybody hated on Vlad everybody told me not to do Vlad everybody called Vlad a cop but me going on his platform over and over and over made y 'all with Vlad.
25:22He does have a point, but it's like that is part of what Vlad was paying for. That's part of the intangible benefits that Boosie wasn't necessarily thinking about when he did all those deals with Vlad. But here's the thing. He built Vlad's platform up out of love for the most part because he didn't even start getting paid until maybe four years ago. Speaking on everybody saying he's a cop. Yeah. Great spinoff segue. way. Superstar is it JR? All-star JR. All-star JR was on his way to do a Vlad interview when the feds grabbed him. But for the record, he was doing that interview wherever he's at.
26:03In Detroit. In Detroit, right. But Vlad booked the studio and I told Vlad last night, I said, bro, you know what's coming, right? Because he was like, we We were set to do it, seven o 'clock his time, four o 'clock my time, I booked the studio. They were gonna do the remote thing or whatever. And I got a text an hour late saying, the feds got me from his number. I said maybe one of his homeboys got his phone or something. Because I was with Mafi, who does most of Vlad's bookings and also helps us with bookings, and he told me, he's like, man, I just found out that J.R. ghosted Vlad. And I'm like, man, that's f***ed up.
26:42Literally two minutes later, he just points his phone at me and the text says, they got me, I'm in the feds or whatever. Like somebody else sent him that message on his phone. That shit is pretty crazy until you see the photos of JR standing over Ben 10 and shooting into him on the ground. He said he stood over him in the song, didn't he? Yeah, I guess I didn't know that that was literal. But then also on top of that, like he's a felon. So is it violating his felon status to even just grab a gun and shoot someone? Not in Texas. I'm going to tell you what I believe was going on. I believe they're grabbing him.
27:20I told everybody a week or so ago at Clubhouse, the feds are going to pick this case up. My Houston back door called me and let me hear the people in that place tell him the feds came and took those tapes, right? I think they're going to put this case on the J.R. dude to squeeze him to make him want to testify against those that attacked him. Because he hasn't given any statements. I don't think they want him. I think they want him to cooperate with them against everybody. Right. Right? So now what they did do was they let him go out there and tell the story. They let him tell the story and they lined it up with the tapes.
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28:08if he had his own fire on on him, if the tapes they got from that location shows him pulling out his own gun, he's in trouble. But if he was getting his ass whooped, pistol whipped, and they dropped it and he picked it up, he's okay. What they're going to try to book him at is they're going to say he kind of left and came back and walked back over dude and stood over him. And my defense, after spending at least$100 ,000 a plus on an attorney would be, I was no longer there. I had psychologically no different than me walking into my house and seeing a stranger banging out my wife, I flipped out.
28:51I was getting attacked. I was no longer there. I was in fear. Same shit J. Hood. That was J. Hood's defense. Right. Same thing. Right. You can take somebody's gun and use it against them for self-defense. For sure, that sounds like self-defense. But as soon as you stand over him when it's not an immediate threat, now we have a problem. Here's the other problem. I was talking to somebody who seems like they're sort of close to this case. They think it's a possibility that he left the scene of the crime with the gun and potentially cross state lines with it in his car. Oh, so they still. OK, so this is not confirmed.
29:29But somebody told me this who seems like they kind of know what's going on. and that, I mean, hey, if you take somebody's gun and shoot them with it and then you bring it with you, you put it in the car and then you drive from Texas to Detroit. So he never surrendered the gun? I mean, he left the crime scene. He never had a conversation with the cops. If he had stayed there, that would have been way better for his case. I didn't know that. I thought he stayed. He hightailed it out of there. So why did he go on the run he went on? I don't know. That's crazy. See, I didn't know that. What did he do with the gun?
30:02Is the gun still in the car? Is the gun in his house where he was staying at? Because that matters a lot, too. Because if they can't prove that he prostrate lines with the gun, that would be good. They got to find it. If they find it in Detroit, that's a real big problem. His ass is in trouble. Yeah. He's cooked. And I'm going to be real. This is Ben 10. Look, you know, I'm team NBA. You think he's hiding his paralysis? Yeah, I don't think he can walk. I don't think he can walk. I see everything else going on. but I think some because he's hearing people saying out the gate he's paralyzed you can have neck down, waist down or whatever but I haven't seen him out of that bed nah doesn't look good and another thing he keep flashing these sprites and these little drinks he better learn that they just watched this JR dude they're watching you too Lord forbid they come in there and that Sprite ain't right in a hospital.
31:02Could be bad. Yeah. It could be some whole other shit. Yeah. Right. And I, and, and I think that they know dude was involved in whatever went on. So I think that's coming as well. You know, you could be a victim and a goddamn, uh, you know, the aggressor, the aggressor as well. Yep. You know what I mean? So we, we, we about to see the question is, will J.R. cooperate to save himself? But what's J.R. potentially going to be charged with? Well, they probably going to charge him again. I haven't seen the full video from the location. If he didn't pick that gun up off the ground from somebody. Oh, you're talking about that J.R.
31:47I think he meant J. Smith Jr. Oh, no, him. Yeah. Oh, yeah, they're going to drag. They're snatching him. But what would his involvement be like? Okay, dude told us, and the people in the place didn't know this existed until the feds made them rewind that shit to review it there before they left with it. They got a tape of dude congregating in the parking lot with all the dudes. Then they're saying allegedly he's the first one to go to grab the jury. So they're saying he initiated it. and from his action came the assault and the shooting. That's what they said they looking at him on. And the dude told my back door, he said, yo, y 'all be thinking Wack was capping that voice, that recording he put out saying the feds called him.
32:39That's the same lady came to see how you know. He said the voice, bro. I know the voice from the shit that was on the internet. Damn. So, Houston PD ain't moved on nobody. We got the feds just moved on this dude. They ain't went down there to Ben 10 or nothing. Right. And they'll sit back and wait and wait. I think this is going to be something crazy. But we got to do better, bro. This shit is, I ain't going to lie, bro. We talk our shit. But I look up, bro, and it's kind of like, this was all about another dude's baby mama that he ain't even with. I don't even think this J.R. dude's just tripping this.
33:25That's the version of it that I heard from somebody is basically that All-Star hasn't really said anything online, but has been very much taunted by J. Smith. Yeah, but for what? Like, okay. J. Prince, sorry. Listen, bro, I haven't been with my kid's mother in over four and a half years. So if you popped up with my kid's mother, whatever, just use that as an example. Don't think she's that type of person, but let's just say that. You can't taunt me because that's not my thing. So I don't know what dude was doing to it. This is why his father got mad because I've been teasing the shit out of him.
34:11They say his father went crazy on him, called him a tender dick sucker for love. He said, you got this takeoff shit going on. Said you got this damn this this this thing with the security guard came up on alive. You got the jeweler, the shit with the jeweler you mentioned over there. And now this behind another nigga's baby mama who he not tripping. Because think about it. What is what was his reason for even approaching this dude? Yeah. What's the problem? If you got her, you got her. Yeah. I don't even want to antagonize you like that. But you think J.Person Jr. really said like, hey, Ben 10, we're going to go run down on this dude.
34:55You got to take his chain. I think they have some footage of him in that parking lot with all these dudes. And I think they have footage of him initiating the first reach of the jury. Oh, okay. And they're saying because of that, everything else happened. Crazy. So, you know, hopefully he survives. He's a dumbass, though. You know, his father is a very wealthy man. He's very business-wise. I've been knowing a dude a long time. We be doing our little back and forth. But, like, bro, you got to watch all of the Godfather, bro. You can't skip the Fredo parts, bro. Yeah. Sometimes motherfuckers got to go.
35:37Yeah. Because this dude is jeopardizing everything you built for no reason. Yeah, it's crazy. But, I mean, this scenario could have paralyzed one guy who also might do serious jail time. J.R. might do actual fed time, who knows how much. And then who knows if J. Prince Jr. gets wrapped up in this whole thing too. So you got three people's lives that could be seriously fucked from this one moment of just, like, pure ego. And then she's over there with somebody else. Yeah. What is this all about? Hey, bro, I know this. I don't know what you got going on or what little meeting you had. What meeting?
36:23But your little new inductees, bro, they shaking the bill now. They calling motherfuckers out, talking crazy. Dope boy wants a fade with Spody face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's serious. He called me. And I asked him why. He told me why. Did he tell you why? It was when we were on live stream and they were arguing about something racial. And he ended up calling him a Jacob. But that's not why he wants to fade. Why? He said his daughter called him. Yeah. Probably not fun. And because his daughter called him about the situation, he said he approached Sporty Face in the lobby. He said Sporty Face apologized and was very, like, low-key, turned down about it.
37:17Cool. And then I guess he said, I leave, turn around. I guess Sporty came in here to do his pod, and he went up on him. Yeah. So he like, yo, this bitch ass nigga, you was just with me out there. You was cool telling me, yeah, I know how it is. I'm a father too. My bad. Won't happen. Whatever, whatever you said. Then he said, I leave and come back in here. And he went up on me. So, you know, I've been knowing. I didn't realize that I've been knowing dude for a while. Dope boy. Yeah. From the roast me days or? I've been knowing from wilding out over there. Okay. Yeah. I've been knowing him for a while.
37:57And he's a humble dude, but I know a few situations. He ain't no punk. Doughboy? Doughboy will fight. You've seen him fight? He will fight. You've seen it? I haven't seen it, but I've seen situations to where, like I know what Creeper do because we've been in situations. Right. He will fight. He ain't no punk. Just a big picture when you look at this, It is pretty crazy that like a large percentage of the No Jumper cast are gang affiliated. We go out of our way to bring on a couple people who are not gang affiliated. And you give it two weeks and you got one of the non-gang affiliates challenging the Roland 40 general himself, Spodyface, to a fade.
38:46I could not have scripted this. People call me Vince McMahon. I could have never pictured this was what was going to happen here. Well, you know, I think Forty going to stop mentioning him. Sporty going to stop mentioning him. Has Doughboy called him out live? I mean, honestly, he called him out in the group chat, and then I think he talked about it on the news, but the whole thing that was weird about it is that he was calling out Spotyface to the fade in the group chat, and we're all thinking that he's talking about today, tomorrow, this week, and then they're like, oh, no, I need like two and a half months.
39:24I'm like, you need a fight camp? Oh, see, that's cloud chasing. I was kind of confused about that. I'm like, if you're really mad and offended, you presumably want to get this out the way right now, right? Spody ain't going to give him that. Spody going to start understanding what we understand about some of these dudes. I mean, Spody Face said, like, I will pull up today and fight you in the parking lot, which I was like, hey, please, we don't need to do this in the parking lot. Let's do it at the boxing gym or whatever. but I don't know I guess Doughboy wants a couple months we can ask him later when we do our bonus episode he called me last night he called me this morning on some crazy shit he called me about the peanut butter dude talking about can he arrange a sit down I'm like what are you talking about a sit down with me and Munchie B Doughboy's trying to be Farrakhan for you and Munchie I was on my way taking my son to school so I had to be like 730 and I didn't know where the call came from.
40:19I'm like, because I'm just watching the, you know, dude that, you know, got loaded again. Dude told old girl, I can pull out the gerb and we can just go over there and get it out the way. Gerb the gerb, yeah. Yo, yo, yo. Munchie was a little drunk. Hey, yo, bro, you know what? I hope he keeps it real with himself because evidently he didn't go back to y 'all content. he made up a bunch of excuses when he did the last little episode and look and be like, yo, that's not a good look. Who said that, Munchie? Yeah, he never owns up to he was loaded, a little too loaded. He never owns up to that. I got a problem.
40:59That's weird because like. He couldn't even talk. The fact of him being who he's supposed to be and he just couldn't even talk and walking away and all in the pants falling down and him not really understanding what he's saying to the chicks about he's grabbing his nuts. with just his briefs on, and he's talking about pulling out the gerb to the chick. I don't think he really knew what he was doing at that time, but it's because he's loaded. Two things about Munchie, though, is that, number one, ever since me and him got into that situation where I moved his chair gracefully with my foot, or I moved the chair with my foot, footgate, if you will, ever since then, he's been chilling with the drinking a lot on the podcast.
41:42Like before that, it was kind of up in the air when he would come on. Sometimes he would be crazy ass drunk munchie and sometimes be regular munchie. Like he's been regular. Maybe once in a while, he'll have one of those cut waters in his hand, but he hasn't had like a bottle on the podcast in months. But that live stream that they did where everybody was smoking, it was a 24 hour live stream, which, by the way, everybody keeps asking me about it. We're trying to get it back up, but the file did not save to YouTube correctly. So it's kind of an issue right now. But either way, that clearly drove him to have more drinks than he was maybe used to.
42:17And so he got a little lit, yeah. A little lit? All things considered, nothing crazy happened. He couldn't even talk. We all have problems talking sometimes, yeah. No. Yo, bro, listen, the way he pumped, he's the B-team general. He's the mayor. He's the biggest blood ever invented or created that walks the streets of Los Angeles County. you can't be loaded to a point where you can't talk that's a security breach when you're a gang leader you can get drunk enough that you can't talk around your homies and your podcast homies no cause they'll line his ass up I don't know about that but I will you got females there you don't know who they tied to bro he had his people with him but the one thing Wasn't nobody with him that day.
43:08No, there was. Cap. Facts. They had to put his Uber information in. Nah, nah, nah. Cap. But either way, we missed out on one of the greatest clips that may have ever. He stayed up here by himself in an Uber. No, no, he does not. Yes, he does. He always has a do-do with him. Bet. At least one. Bet. Now, you telling me he ain't never at him? I think there was one time that he Ubered. Man, that nigga, listen, he stayed solo. I just want to let you know, though, that we almost had one of the greatest clips in the history of podcasting because at one point he grabbed the bong and almost poured the bong into his cup that he drinks out of.
43:41He almost poured the bong water into it because he thought— And y 'all was going to let him drink it? Well, I just saw this afterwards, but Nathan saw it and actually grabbed the bong out of his hand to make sure he did it. But that would have been— That's because he ain't—he loaded. No, it's because he's blind. No. Bro, when dude was coherent, he know what the f*** is around him. Dude sees shadows. Okay, it's because he was loaded and he was blind in that particular case. But yeah, the Spody Face thing is getting kind of crazy, though, because he's had like it's not just the Doughboy thing, but there's a new thing emerging in the No Jumper fan base that they're calling.
44:18He says a bunch of dumb shit. It's called Spody Fatigue, which is that some people are allegedly growing kind of tired of the fact that Spody Face will literally argue with you about anything. If you say my sister's name is Melissa, he's going to say, no, it ain't. The dumbest shit he said is when him and nephew was talking about women and he mentioned San Francisco and he says, no, but the gays. Nigga, it is more gay people in Los Angeles than San Francisco. You really think? Well, there's way more people here, period. Listen, it's more gay people in Los Angeles than Atlanta. Percentage-wise, I'm going to say SF beats LA.
45:00Okay, let's go to it. I already pulled it up. I got it already. You probably know a lot. New York, LA got 22 ,000. San Francisco got 134 ,000. Right? Atlanta is down to like 60 ,000. San Francisco has a significantly higher percentage of LGBTQ plus residents compared to Los Angeles. Consistently ranking as having the highest concentration of gay individuals. What did I say right here? Right, but you realize that the numbers themselves are basically useless because you have to talk about it as a percentage of the population. He cannot exclude as if it ain't a bunch of gay people right here. And what does gay people have to do with that conversation?
45:45But you and him are both doing the same thing where you're talking about the sheer numbers as opposed to the percentage of the whole. And I agree, though, that him saying that was insane in the context of that argument because Almighty Suspect was talking about the fact that oftentimes black women are frustrated when they see high value black men dating outside of their race, specifically with white women, which I think anyone who spent time online or reads or watches videos or whatever knows that this is a pretty common concern. black women are definitely not all but some are frustrated about the fact that black men oftentimes achieve a bunch of success and then they end up married to some Chinese woman and like it was Spodyface's response to that just left so much to be desired because he's basically just saying like well I ain't never heard a black woman say that it's like that is an anecdote that has nothing to do with the population as a whole dude said the women he'd be around he'd be around hood chicks right there in the city He's around people who have never seen a white person besides a cop or the H &R block.
46:52I told you before, dude been in jail for what they tell me half the majority of his little life. Right. I think he did like 10 years. OK. But what I'm saying is. If you sit back and let dude tell you his life experiences, it's going to start and stop between his neighborhood and the penitentiary. I bet he don't even got a passport. probably not yeah this is what i'm saying he got to be mid-30s wherever old he is so it's like people like that and then i told what you call he called him uh whatever he called him a jigger bull or some shit yeah he should have called him one back i believe all gang bangers are jigger bulls too you're taking away from your community same shit right it's the same shit you're taking the park, right?
47:41You hurting and harming people on the blocks, right? This is taking away from the community, right? So if you hollering out certain shit and you active in that, right, then you're that too. I don't get... And then they fought you on this one. I'm looking at you like maybe you was tired. When you told them Flacco and the average gangbanger... Flacco would win in a debate. Bro, Moe gang, listen. Spoty Face was talking about it like, oh, Flacco's going to get destroyed. I'm like, listen, against the upper echelon of gang members, yes, maybe they'll have a good shot. But against the random dude? Like, what are we talking about?
48:2290 % of gang bangers dropped out of school by the seventh grade. Right. Another 50 % of them did drugs so hard they forgot what they learned from kindergarten to the seventh grade. This is a fact. If we gave them an aptitude test and told them to take it, a lot of them dudes going to come back third, fourth grade. This is what's real. Listen, I come from both sides of it. You can't tell me, right? This is just what's real. A lot of these dudes, they can't do like, they can't tell you what pi is or the square root of 12 or can do pre-algebra, none of this type of shit. Right? They can't even speak English no more.
49:09They've been speaking Ebonics so goddamn long, that's really how they talk to their mother, to whoever. Right? So I'm like, yo, bro, you really going to argue that them dudes is on the block? Can outwit somebody who really is like went to school and got educated? They were arguing with me. And then that's the most insane thing about it, too, is that, I mean, I thought I had seen the greatest heights imaginable in terms of Lush being a dick rider and just like a total just like just being willing to say anything possible to make people of color like him. And then I have Lush sitting on a podcast with me, Lush, a very intelligent 45 year old man saying that going to college does not make you more intelligent.
50:01Dumb as hell. We looked it up. If you go to college for one year on average, it'll increase your IQ by one to five points. Which to me, it seems obvious. Do you think if you had gone to college for six years and got a degree in philosophy, don't you think you'd be smarter? Obviously, you'd be smarter. I would know more about other shit. Now, I just told Lush, I said, Lush, you're confusing a dude that's hustling, right? And even these dudes, They ain't that goddamn smart. He got caught with this, he got five years. He comes back to the very same place he got caught and does it all again, gets caught again, gets 10 years.
50:41Who did that? And then he comes back to the very same place after the 10, gets caught, and the feds say you a bitchful criminal, we give you 25 years. That's not smart. These are what street dudes do. I'm just being real. Like, street dudes that return, these are the dudes you're talking about, Flocko. doing his debate with. They're not that goddamn smart. The ones that find their niche in a lane and get somewhere else and create their own world, now those are the ones you may get to have a conversation with. And my suggestion was Skip Townsend would be near the top of my list of like an educated dude who comes from a street background that I would just like to see what a conversation between him and Flacco would be like.
51:25Would he be willing to sit down with Flacco? I don't know. But then like - Why wouldn't he? They both rats. Flacco not a rat, he's a civilian. Skip's a rat. I don't know. Flacco not a rat, he's a civilian, but Skip's a rat. As far as other crazy things we had to argue about, Munchie said that there's no way that Flacco would be able to get 20 bloods to sit down with him. Bullshit. I said we could call Wack and Wack will get him 20 bloods by the end of the day. Hey bro, the fact that Munchie's saying that and he's the main blood that's giving Flacco information is crazy. Right, I mean the bloods are not exactly this insanely tight-knit organization like yeah okay maybe nobody from inglewood will go do it boy there's a million other fucking bloods that would if you rapping if you're trying to blog podcast you in the youtube space you're coming to sit down with flocko i mean i really feel though that i need to send spody face to some sort of like debate boot camp because i'm just kind of I like him as a podcaster, and I think he has a ton of potential, but there's the fatigue that is setting in from hearing him sort of have the same conversations over and over.
52:32I told you this from the beginning. I said, look, bro, Adam, what you talking about? The 4X shit was going on at the time. This dude was clown enough to come on here. That was a good look for you. Okay, eye in your face, 4X. That was the play. Dude sitting there, he really don't add nothing to the conversation. conversation this is why he intentionally goes at it with anything you say this is the only way he can talk no but i think that's totally that's really him though i feel like he actually just like like i i would love to have a conversation with like his girlfriend i don't have any other girlfriend but if he does like i would love to know what her life is like because for sure they're arguing about everything under the sun i actually really like what sporty face does add to the podcast because when it was just lush munchy and hefe and me i felt like i was a little dry like It wasn't as active.
53:21And Sprody Face kind of spices it up a little bit more. But some of the things he tries to argue are just mind-blowing. Don't make sense. Well, you know, he sees dude as a threat. He sees anybody. No, not Munchie. Munchie been here. He sees anybody new coming in that may have their own lane. Oh, Doughboy. That's way different from theirs because they have their own lane. Sprody ain't got no. He's in that half-a shadow. Well, I mean, to be fair. There's not too much. He's in that half face shadow. And half face doing his thing the way he does it. Got his channel doing his thing. And he already got his character set.
53:58So now when you look at Spodey face, you say, okay, well, what are you doing? His biggest claim to fame was DC baby Draco. True. Which was, he still argues. And I'm glad you get it now. I'm like, look, bro, you told me to go get the paperwork. I went and got it. It said dismissed. And you still want to argue if he's guilty or not. Yeah. I'm like, bro, what the fuck you arguing? It says dismissed. dismissed right yeah from like a street perspective it's like bro if it got dismissed it is what it is but he's still arguing but listen Spodyface and Doughboy were going to inevitably butt heads either way because I like Doughboy and I agree with him on a lot of stuff and I think he's very smart but he has a lot of positions that are not exactly in line with the average black person never mind the average black person that'd be on some kind of sort of woke shit like Spodyface is because he said basically he thinks that there's nothing really wrong with people of other races saying the N-word.
54:53He said that he doesn't think there's anything wrong with blackface, which I think that there's room for these arguments because I do think that the ban on blackface is kind of stupid and kind of productive. If we thought Drewski was funny, then we could think others are funny. You can't say this is funny because they did it. Well, they can't do it because back in the day, no. And Dobler is a comedian. So from his perspective, being funny is more important than, you know, just whatever, like being tough or whatever. You know, like somebody like Spodeface, like his primary virtue is being hard, tough, having respect.
55:27That's what gang life is all about. If you're a person who's been in Hollywood, acting, doing comedy and stuff for all these years, you take free speech and comedy and that is your primary value. The real hard dudes that really come from gang life that earned that and did that. Like I could bring Pee Wee up here from his neighborhood, right? and Pee Wee really not. He'll sit here and you won't see or hear none of that coming out of his mouth because he's already that. It's those that didn't really achieve that. Sporty Face always been in four extra shadow on some real shit. You think they were always lumped together like that even before the end of that era?
56:05I believe so. He always been in his shadow. And, you know, I think he tries too hard and he just needs to figure out who he is. Is he a crip? Is he anti-gang? Is he a Hebrew? Is he like, oh boy, he called me guerrilla Hebrew. He like, bro, this dude is a hypocrite like a motherfucker. He was calling me saying this. Now I look up and he's doing this and doing that. He like, dude don't know what he want to be. So I think if he thinks there's something over there for him, he'll come that way and portray as something he's not. And if he can't get nothing out of it, then he'll spin back to this is neighborhood.
56:42it's interesting the other thing he does that pisses me off is that he like makes everything about race yeah and that's not what it is if I say I had a good day today he's gonna say yeah well you white it's like there's a few things that we gotta we gotta get spoaty faced to be a little more serious but you gotta ask him he don't even come from that okay you got some police brutality we all got it but guess what we was doing shit on some real shit he don't come from that He grew up in Alabama in 68, 72, 81. He don't come from that to even be on that. He read a couple books, right? And you more racist than anybody anyway.
57:25You hate black people more than the average white dude because you was attacking black people over color. This is just real shit. That's why I tell people, listen, I'm American. All lives matter. I fuck with everybody. Did I used to be on that dumb shit? Absolutely. This is why I tell the kids, I am not a gangbanger. And I advise you don't turn into a gangbanger. And at the end of the day, we can't think it's cool to laugh about this. But then when it's done back, we want to cry and go back 100 years to reason why it's not cool for them to do that. Like Jake Paul, when he said, I'm going to go do blackface, I'm looking forward to seeing it.
58:06I want to see how funny it's going to be because Drewski's shit was funnier than hell here's the thing, Jake Paul is not funny no, I'm just saying I don't know what he's going to do Drewski is like maybe arguably the funniest black person living no okay, well if you don't think he's number one, he's probably top five, right? okay, I put him up there I mean, yeah, you got to give his like Dave Chappelle he's been funny as fuck his whole life but as far as like an Instagram reel from a black person I think Drewski's got like the highest percentage of being funny than anybody else on earth. So when he chooses to do Erica Kirk, I mean, before, somebody could have just told me the idea.
58:44I wouldn't even have to see it. I would have said, oh my God, that's going to be so good. But I'm saying, if we can laugh at that. Yeah. Why would we get offended at, we talking about right now in 2026. No, no, I agree. It's a stupid thing to have prohibited because it opens the door for people. It builds up animosity from the white people who feel like they're not able to communicate as freely as a black person in a similar situation when it's okay for one side to do it and it's not okay for the other side this is just it builds up like a bad dynamic and it creates things like white resentment towards other people which i think is i told you dude was gonna fizzle the out like dude he's not he's not a four extras even though four extras is kind of in his own box you know uh it's still he's like a crit mac you know i'm saying it's it's funny you know i'm saying when he does certain shit when he reacts certain ways it's what it is he's a character dude don't know if he fucking malcolm x goddamn tukey williams you know uh you know he you know i would never never never under any circumstances never when i asked him deal with forex's oh man i got emotional because he showed up to my graduation the cup see that's the dude that was balled up when them three little niggas was dp 'ing him and he wouldn't want to fight back That was him.
1:00:01I would never, you know, I just, it touched me emotionally. Cool. We all understand, but you went so hard with the, why you would never under any circumstances. It doesn't matter. Stop being something you ain't, bro. Stop being overly tough and just kick back. I'm not giving up on the Spody Face operation at all. I just think, okay, this is the thing about Doughboy that I like and that Spody Face I think needs to work on a little bit is that when the chat says yo dough boy you're being annoying you're being weird you you got too drunk you did this whatever like they've had criticisms for it and it seems like he's really taking those things in and thinking about it and actually trying to figure out how he can be a better podcaster and people will donate when we're on stream sometimes to tell spody face that they don't like him or whatever and he's just like soak my dick soak my dick it's like he goes bro the fans are the most important thing in this whole dynamic so if the fans have an opinion you got to pay attention because he's never had fans yeah he really don't know what he want to do with this you know what i'm saying that's interesting you say that yeah because he wasn't really like trying to be a podcaster that hard when i brought him on this just kind of fell in place um okay i want to talk about the dejan paul tde beef what you mean that come on bro get the out of here you don't think it's a real beef i think it's a real beef he says he's suing him so on who he's suing a guy right here oh okay so this is a clip of academics shedding light on what happened i guess i could kind of tell you what happened can't put no word beef with dejan paul and t what he said that's his name i love that ak is talking about dejan now apparently something happened i don't if they kicked him out of the group chat or something like that but he decided to expose tde now this guy said yo listen man you shouldn't be my dm sucking dick if he was gonna let your td homies and employees press you into apologizing for talking to me you're supposedly you're supposed to be a leader not a follower stand on what you said in the dms don't be a coward because your homie don't like me so apparently he's exposing his dms with punch you know punch says my guy He says, good afternoon.
1:02:18I hope everything is well. What's good? He said, everything is good, champion. Was looking at some of your commentary. It's definitely needed. Oh, wow. So TDE Punch is like, you know, you know, you know them guys. They're like desperate to get anybody on their side. All right. So basically, Punch reached out to Dajon to tell him that he appreciated what he was doing content wise, which is not really that surprising because Dajon does a bunch of content that really, you know, emphasizes lyricism and musicality and hip hop, whatever. so especially on the west coast so he has that conversation then i think he finds out about how horrible some of the things that dejan has actually said about uh various members of the apollo podcast are i don't even know exactly what he said about macwap but at one point keem keem is a part of tde and dejan was saying some of the worst shit you could ever imagine about him he was talking about his dad the roaches are eating his dad is dead he said you're the roaches are eating your your dead dad right now shit like that so then punch hops on twitter and basically apologizes to macwap for even communicating with dejon what's wrong with that uh i don't really think there's anything wrong with it to be honest yeah bro listen that's like
1:03:37me finding out that somebody I sent some words of a curse. Hey, bro, I like what you're doing. You know, keep going up. And then you find out. And then Remo sends me some shit where this dude's talking about your daughter. Right. You get what I'm saying? I didn't know it. So my first thing going to be like, well, let me prove to my partners. I didn't know this was going on. You get what I'm saying? Punch ain't going to respond. And even the shit Punch sent him, that was just all butter up shit. You know what I'm saying? That was operation, you know, let me plant a seed in case we need him. Yeah, I mean.
1:04:11That's all that was, bro. I don't know how much somebody like Punch would even give a shit about really embracing a member of the media who's relatively small like Dajon. But if I was in his position where I got all these artists and I want the artists to be treated favorably and this guy has some sort of voice in the culture. Yeah, you might reach out to him, butter him up a little bit, give him an exclusive. Who got a voice? He don't got no voice in the culture? I mean, he has some kind of voice, even if it might not be reflected in the numbers on his podcast. Yeah, listen, look, look. I salute dudes' creativity, right, to create a report card and create these things, right?
1:04:55But that shit ain't been embraced like that. No, yeah, it's still pretty tiny. He does like 1 ,000 views per podcast or something like that. Yeah, it doesn't make a difference. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to him for doing what he's doing. I give him props for squabbling up. I don't take nothing from him. That's where I give him his most props from. But at the end of the day, I just think Punch was maybe a little bored, and he probably was just testing his bullshit skills. But so then – Let me see if I can – I still got my bullshitter guy and get a response from me just in case I need it.
1:05:31But also, you know, Punch cares about music and shit, so he probably saw Dejan talking about music and emphasizing the fact that he cares so much about West Coast music. It's not surprising to me that he might just reach out and say, how far is what you're doing. Do you think Dejan has any effect on anything TDE does? No, probably not. Not really. Not in any significant way. But so then, okay, now Dejan is pissed off at Punch for taking this line in this whole scenario. And he actually took to the internet and claimed that he is now suing TDE because multiple different members under the TDE umbrella, specifically, I guess he's talking about the members of the Apollo, like Mackwap and Keem, have expressed so much homophobia to them.
1:06:18And he even gave No Jumper a little shout out and said that the homophobia that he dealt with with Figmunity World was actually much, much worse than anything he dealt with on No Jumper. Are you talking about Baby Keem? No. Keem. Another Keem. You want to see him? So what Keem are you talking about? Keem is a somewhat plus-sized, light-skinned man who... What does he do at TD? You know, he's a friend of theirs. I don't know that he has any official role. Yeah, so if he ain't got any official role, he's got a name. This guy. He's not an artist. You ever seen him? Yeah, yeah, I've seen him. But if he's not signed, he's not part of that corporate structure, what do you do?
1:07:04And also, Dejan has no working relationship with TDE, so it's kind of weird to be like, hey, while I was part of Figmunity World, these guys said homophobic things to me, but I'm not going to sue Figmunity World because they don't have any money. Instead, I'm going to sue TDE because they have a loose affiliation with these guys, even though they said it on their podcast. They didn't say it in any context that has anything to do with TDE. It actually honestly sounds like one of the most frivolous lawsuits I could ever imagine, and it's definitely not going anywhere. It's probably never even going to get filed.
1:07:36It's designed for people to talk about it. Or for him to maybe try to find his way into a settlement like he did to me. He better watch his step, because when you're playing with something like TDE, they like to counter back. You understand what I'm saying? about what it cost him to defend this. And think about how, like, my main thing after Dejan fucked me over by lying about being shot, which for the record, I'm sure he's going to claim that he was really shot again soon in the media or whatever. But when he did that and then he goes to Figmunity and he burns the bridge with them, I was like, how is this guy going to find himself into a situation where anybody will give him an opportunity when he's been on two major podcast platforms on the West Coast?
1:08:18They both got rid of him under duress. And then after that, he does what? He gets into this big beef where he's threatening to sue the most prominent label in hip hop. It's like, bro, if me and T-Rail and AD and everybody who's had a bad relationship with him on this side isn't bad enough on the podcast side of things, now he's creating enemies with the biggest label on the West Coast. No, he's not. That label don't even hear him, bro. He's talking to associates at a label. But they're not going to ever do anything for him. They're not going to ever invite him to an event. They're not going to, you know, give him access to something.
1:08:53And there's a trickle-down effect there because, obviously, Punch talks to other people who have labels and other people who manage artists. Everybody that's associated and tied to that when it comes to certain things where they might have let him in to do something, he just shut himself down. Yeah, it's crazy. And T.D.E., listen, T.D.E. is not going to call around and tell people to do these things. It's just going to automatically happen. It's just a chilling effect upon whatever you have going on career-wise. Yeah, I really don't understand. I mean, you got to kind of marvel at Dajon. He's just such a little asshole.
1:09:26He's a liar. You see the lie he told up here? The biggest liar. What lie are you talking about there, though? Up here? Well, about being shot? Yeah, bro. Come on, bro. Like, come on, man. Like, I don't know how the fans let him off the hook on that. The feds? The fans. The fans. Well, he doesn't really have fans like that. oh shit he has like the no jumper reddit who will kind of observe him when he's doing something extreme they'll watch it the clip will go up but as far as people who want to watch him on a consistent basis and i mean bro like i really believed in him and really wanted to keep working on building him up and like look what he did to me like it's so crazy about him too yeah yes i said bro dude is here he has a motive he came with the i want to help no jumper bill type shit right and i ain't gonna lie uh dough boy is kind of some shit he's doing he's giving me the same vibe the tattoo shit is a little extreme the tattoo doesn't make you feel like oh this guy is actually a devoted no jumper warrior no it kind of gives me the vibes that i'm looking for a few brownie points to kind of make sure you don't get rid of me.
1:10:41And he don't know Adam 22. Don't give a fuck about none of that. If you start doing some shit or the shit stop adding up, he'll get rid of your ass and that no jumper tattoo. I have no plans on getting rid of Doug Wood. But if you look back in history, I did fire someone like a week after they got a no jumper head tattoo that was like this big. So I'm in and didn't even think twice about it. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. He better have his kid's name on him. He probably does. I think his kid's like a grown adult. I wouldn't give a fuck. Yeah. He better have his kid, his mama, his grandmama, great-grandmama, auntie, niece, his first goddamn dog, and his parakeet name on him.
1:11:24Before he gonna put a damn no jumper tattoo. That's crazy. No, no jumper is a great thing to get tattooed on you. I haven't personally gotten a tattoo on me. So you don't even have a no jumper tattoo on you? I don't, but I'm going to. I need to. Ten years in. Got to do it. Yo, I seen 607 Unk. I seen some shit.
1:11:43Something Jumper. Did you see that? No. Yeah, he's stealing your shit. Is he? Yeah, he got a hold, but it said something jumper. Should we go to his YouTube channel? Is that where we're going to see this? Yeah, I just saw it the other day. Something Jumper. But do you know that me and 607 Unk are doing a 24-hour lock-in tomorrow with Krip Mac? Oh, that's going to be a funny one. I don't see anything on his YouTube channel so much. He's interviewing big homie CC's fat ass. I just seen it the other day. I got to call him. I meant to call him, but they called me the other night. Man, he is not uploading too much.
1:12:21I mean, some of his clips are doing pretty good. He did one with Captain Tazari. I don't know how that went. They were battling. He called Captain Tazari out of races. Yeah, that seems fair. um what are your predictions what you can't just get you think captain tazari at an isupk hebrew israelites what west is racist i mean he might be able to engage in the semantic gymnastics that it was required to say that he's not a racist but i think if he was really being realistic he would probably admit he's a racist yeah you say the semantic gymnastics yeah that's some immortal technique ass shit right there huh oh so i guess he's maybe calling his podcast the new jumper there it goes i knew i've seen something i mean you just calling yourself that when you're a tiny little crumb of i've seen something but yeah but look at how persistent he is in stealing our guests now he's got nutty nutty the guy who beat up king pill now he's got nutty on his podcast i guess that's like he thinks that's a big move i guess he got cool with yellow again that's good yo i knew i seen something that caught my eye yeah but do you how do you predict that's going to go do you think we're going to actually be able to keep krip mac in the building for 24 hours we're going to be sleeping in the same room well he's going to go to sleep me too we're going to sleep on stream and lush is actually volunteering to come in and like take over the stream while we're sleeping here in my office what the fuck you gonna sleep at you only got one couch we're gonna put some mattresses on the ground oh yeah so you and crit back just from the lock in and unk i don't know who's gonna be the top and who's gonna be the bottom huh i guess i get a boner real easily so i'll probably be the top what the fuck you them is two men bro if you had a chance to either of them in the asshole which one would you pick?
1:14:19Hey, listen, I don't participate in my activities. 607 don't. I know you and Crip Mac got a different type of relationship. So, you know, I don't know what y 'all got going on. I just want to bust his coochie and asshole open. Well, I mean, he was dealing, you know, our guy, you know, he told me, said he's trying to act like he didn't know I was calling a transgender and he absolutely knew. Neon. Oh. Yeah, he's trying to act like he didn't know and he knew, so. He hasn't done anything with Neon since then. I mean, I don't know. Maybe he's swinging that way. I mean, shit, Krip Mac, here's the way you talk about him and the way you look at him.
1:14:54Maybe he's into that shit. Maybe. He has been to a 50-50 yard. He did admit that. And he is on the Your Big Homie is on a 50-50 yard remix. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's shout out to, you know, the guys that exposed that. But nobody can ever hate on the 50-50 yard again because Krip Mac was on one, Jab 5 was on one. Listen, man, I was running content on that a year ago. It's some real G homies on that 50-50 yard for different reasons. And a lot of them ain't over there because they ran off the yard scared. They over there because they sent three, four cats at them and the police seen it, so they going to move them like that, right?
1:15:30So, you know, it's some real. Then you got a lot of them when they closed out death row, like the homeboy Lil Sonny from Six Deuce Brim, right? He was on death row for 27 years. They closed death row down and that's where they sent him, right? And guess what? He's on a level three, 50-50, and guess what? For 20-something years, he couldn't come outside at night. You think he'd give a damn who owned that yard with him, and he know he got two, 300 years of life without, and he can come outside at nighttime under the star? I know to us that don't mean nothing. You think he going to be like, oh, no, homie, I got to keep it real.
1:16:08I ain't going to stay on this yard. Send me back over there where I won't see the stars. Yeah. No, I'm with you. But I dare somebody to go playing with him. Sus is going to a 50-50 yard. Potentially, that's what people are saying. Sus is a civilian. He can go where the fuck he want. I advise Sus to try to work his way to Jamestown Fire Camp and go get some third time. He did say that he wants to go to a fire camp. Straight up. That's what I advise him to do. He better not feed into nothing. None of these street dudes is talking about what you can and can't do. Go up there. Stay down for your manhood.
1:16:42Don't be no punk. protect yourself. Don't let nobody take nothing from you. But where them people send you from classification is where you go do your time and you try to get to the spot where you can do the least amount of time. He better not go on there talking about, yeah, they ain't gonna say, man, listen, they send him there and he can do his time in peace. Do your time. I feel like ATM Richie is trying to like make a little wave off of dissing the 50-50 yards. He ain't nobody. But then he put Cremac on the song And then at the same time, you've had a lot of people from J-Hood to Jap5 to KripMag, et cetera, that are all kind of acknowledging that they were on it.
1:17:20So it's like his little mission ain't working. If anything, the 50-50 yard looks a lot better right now than it did six months ago in terms of how people talk about it. If you go to my YouTube channel, me and the homie from Blackstone, damn homies, man. We did a whole stream, a whole thing on the 50-50 yard because I couldn't understand it. It didn't make sense to me. Because when we did time, certain elements that they say can't be on the yard was on the yard. Right. Well, some of the hardest motherfuckers, right? Somebody said, you telling me all these dudes are 200, 300 years and ain't never getting out.
1:17:59It's telling the dudes with a date in a year or two, you gotta catch a gang of time to be good with us stay here with us so you can parole to the streets and tell your people well I would have been out 2-3 years ago son but I didn't want to go to a 50-50 yard yeah that's crazy don't make sense but I don't think you're gonna get the culture as a whole to just like be like yeah man they've been exposing a lot of dudes like this dude he do the crit walking who? The people on 50, 50 yards been finding all these dudes paperwork. They put up files in sex offenders. And they on the streets and niggas' hoods, on social media, quit walking the niggas' sets.
1:18:44And they been putting it up on them. And they telling people, okay, what you going to do? Oh, shit. Didn't I know that? Yeah, they been a couple cats that they didn't put up. What you going to do? Since y 'all saying this, this dude is out there on the streets with y 'all. what you gonna do? God damn, that's crazy. Some dude named, I see him all the time. This dude.
1:19:12Can we turn the music off? Oh yeah. This dude, what is this dude's name? The Eastside
1:19:23Seawalker. Eastside Walker. You see? Bro, he's on everybody's shit. He got 200 ,000 followers. He's in everybody's hood, crib walking. This is the attack of the 50-50 yard people. They finding all these people's shit and putting it up. He on Megan's Law. So we got to keep it real. Damn. You got to keep a dude on the street in everybody's neighborhood. He's seawalking, and then, okay, now the 50-50 yard people are like, well, this dude right here is in Megan's Law, but he over there with y 'all, but then y 'all telling us we bad. Wow. This looks crazy. 29 minutes ago, this was posted to the Blueface tour flyer featuring Blueface, Stunna Girl, OT Genesis, and Compton AV.
1:20:07Going all the way from Sac to Washington, to Salt Lake. I just added Nebraska a while ago. Down to Phoenix, back to Oakland. Damn, that's going to be a pretty epic tour. I just added Nebraska. We're going, I believe. No L.A. date. Yeah, it's L.A. date. Currently. It's going to be after every day. Oh, after everything? Okay. Wow, so like what size venues you think that they're gonna be able to do? Um, well originally it was just a blue face tour Does he have a like a real friendship with Compton AV? How did that come together? Do they know each other real good? Oh, actually they were together on that video shoot They met on the remix.
1:20:43Okay, you know what I'm saying? So we just booked I think Omaha, Nebraska on the 17th I believe very interesting Yeah, I just had to lock down the bus. Let me see. A little Crypt Tour with a little sprinkling. No, Lincoln, Nebraska. I'm sorry. Lincoln, Nebraska at the Royal Grove. All ages. Yep, May 17th. I just added that today by 1.30. Nice. Yeah. That's going to be exciting. I want to see how that goes. He will be streaming. There's not enough tours these days, you know? Bro, listen, the venues. The venues are shipping? I'm watching. I'm watching. He catching the blues out there. Who? I'm watching it.
1:21:24You don't see it? Who? Catching the Blues? Who's on tour right now? Which one of you guys on tour? Ralphie. Oh, Ralphie the Plug. And it ain't him. It's just like, you know, his cameraman been slipping. He been going too far right. And some of them, you know what I'm saying, they're not keeping them shots tight. What do you mean? Yeah, because like when you got a thin crowd, you either. editing another crowd from a previous show? Yeah. Or you just, you tighten up that crowd to make it seem like it's a crowd. But is there a bad clip of Ralphie that's been going around where it doesn't look too good?
1:22:02No, it's just some of them venues, bro. They light. Look, and this is no diss to Ralphie. Everybody's going to catch some of them dates. You know what I'm saying? People aren't going outside, Adam. They're not going outside. No, you know whose tour is supposedly not selling at all is Post Malone and Jelly Roll. No, that's crazy. I thought that they would be kind of immune to this downturn because it's such a normie-ass style of music that regular-ass people who have expandable income to go and see a concert. I would have thought that a Post Malone tour would be a no-brainer. He seems huge, and Jelly Roll seems huge.
1:22:41Yeah, that's crazy. They're trying to do arenas, I guess, right? That's probably the problem, yeah. If they did smaller venues, maybe it would be easier. Yeah, they should have scaled that down to maybe like 7 ,000s. You ain't doing no yay shit. That's crazy. These Wiggers are getting their karma. Huh? I mean, you know, I f*** with both of them. You think Post Malone's a Wigger? Not in present times, but he certainly started his career out as one. Jelly Roll, too? Jelly Roll was like Lil' White's artist under 3-6 Mafia. Gotcha. I believe they was just who they was. No, for sure. And I mean, there's no reason why you can't be a rapper and a country fan.
1:23:21I had a white kid sign of me named Nicky Dees, a little Irish kid. And he was around us and shit. I think he went on tour with us, didn't he? Who was? Nicky Dees. Little Irish. Rap his ass off. I think Doug did a feature for me for him. He did. And video and everything. How do you feel about the whole San Diego being mad at me because I said they had no emotion? I got a tattoo. What happened? Who said what? some chick was like fuck Adam and whack 100. Oh yeah. But I'm going to say this. Right? And my homeboy Mitchie Schlick. Shout out Mitchie. I'm trying to get him to come on now. He'll come up.
1:23:57That ain't nothing to phone call. Let's go. Come on. I DM'd him. I called Mitchie. Shout out and see one thing about Mitchie and I got to put it on his back because he been the one kicking the doors in along with Big Reese and a couple other cats who've been a part of this shit. The exhibit movement and just everything in general. you know, producers, big producers, you know, keys and all them. Bro, they'd tell you, it was a point in time where they didn't even have urban radio in Dago. You get what I'm saying? They didn't even have urban radio. And then when they caught all that shit on gangland, when the cops was getting popped at, they wouldn't even let Mitchie, they'd stop Mitchie, right?
1:24:39He couldn't perform nowhere in Dago. I had to lift that. Damn. And risk it all. I had a game show down there. Mitch, you want to come open up? He said, I'm banned. The mayor, the police ain't going to let me, bro, be there. I pulled up. I got paid to back in. I said, all right, we're going to let our opener go on. Mitch, he then jumped out. They said, dude can't come in. I said, that's our opener. I said, if he don't go in, I'm paid. You in breach. Our contract states we got an opener. Nothing you sent to me said that these individuals or any individuals couldn't open, period. So this is who we paid to open.
1:25:19So either he opened or game leaving. And game was gangsta enough to, like, support it. You know what I'm saying? He stayed in the sprinter. You know what I mean? And they looked and they let Mitchie perform. I did that with a couple cats. I did that with Miles and Two up in SAC. You know what San Diego is all up in arms about? I don't know why. I was doing an interview with Sean Cotton, and he said that he was staying in San Diego and real quick, he was explaining why he was late. He's like, yeah, I had to come from San Diego. And I'm like, at some point he said something, I think he was joking about finding an artist there or whatever, I'm like, yeah, well, you know, San Diego, not really much of a music city.
1:25:56That's what they're mad about. When it comes to mainstream, anybody from San Diego will admit to that and it's not that they don't have the talent, it's that they don't reach down there right for the talent. And then a lot of cats like Mitchie then went on tour with us in his own SUV following our tour bus. And you know why? Could I come out? Come on. And everywhere we went, we hit the stage. That whole Meek Mill Rum and all that shit was going on, Mitchie was with us. And Mitchie definitely, every city we went to, had his own fan base and own team. But they don't come up. Like, Mitchie comes up.
1:26:31Like, they don't come up, right? Like, you got to, bro, certain places you got to go, L.A., Atlanta, Miami, New York, shit like that. You got even cats from the Bay know they got to come down. Right. You know, but they don't they don't come up and they sit down there and the people don't reach down there. And I don't know why. You know, we're going to do another reality show called On the Fingers. And I had to write down all these neighborhoods we're going to visit to do it. And I'm like, bro, I got to go to Dago because people just don't reach. Maybe it's because they don't give them reason. Maybe they're not loud enough.
1:27:08Maybe they just they're isolated. I don't know. I feel like, OK, number one, it's not uncommon for a city the size of San Diego in America to not have prominent rappers in the last 20 years. You know, that's like pretty normal. Like there's a lot of cities that are like that. Like when I was looking up like the coldest cities in hip hop, literally San Diego was number one. Tom Felton is probably the biggest mainstream guy that came out. And now he's a squatter. What you mean? He squats in people's houses. He goes to rich people's houses and sleeps in them until they get kicked out. How you know that?
1:27:43He was on the news for it. Oh, there you go. But either way, I mean, that's not even a shot at him. You got to do what you got to do. But the fact that Mitchie's name is kind of like the number one name that people bring up when they talk about San Diego, it's like, bro, that was 20 years ago. Yeah, and he's still grinding. He's still opening up doors. and he been trying. And it was an uphill struggle for him, not to say it won't happen. You know what I'm saying? San Diego, Dago is a very serious city. Can't take nothing from them. But when it, like, when what you, you're going, see, you're doing, I'm glad this has happened.
1:28:17You didn't say nothing wrong because you based it off of statistics, right? Yeah. This is what I went through when they asked me, was Nipsey Hussle a musical legend? I am from a dead city. I'm from a city where there's no popular rapper. No popular rapper has ever come out of New Hampshire. Nearest big city is Boston. Minimal popular rappers have ever come out of Boston. You got to go all the way to. The biggest thing you're going to hear out of there is Benzino. Benzino. You got to talk about. What's the other dude? Well, technically, Gangstar's guru is from Boston. But we don't know that. He never really claimed it.
1:28:50No, I would have told you New York. Yeah. I think almost everybody would. So it's like, I know. And really, if you go to every other, Portland, Maine, no rappers. Fucking Rhode Island, no rappers. Even if you skip past New York and you go to Philly right now, Philly has a music scene. They got a drill scene. But even Philly don't really have, like, popping rappers coming out of there, even though, obviously, they produce a lot of big ones over there. Let's keep it real. Stockton been dead until at least five years ago. Yeah. Stockton, come on. Okay. And then Sacramento, shout out to Sebo. I discovered him when I was in the penitentiary.
1:29:21But Mozzie is probably the biggest thing that has happened. coming out of sack. Yeah. And like most of those cities though like have people who would just like if you said yeah there's no popular rappers coming out of Boston they'd be like yeah yeah. San Jose another one. But yeah San Jose was number two on the AI list that I got of the coldest cities. Even they put Orlando on there. But it's like what is it about San Diego that there's this like mass delusion over that whole city that they think that there's something in the music industry and they're just not at all. Ever. Well, no, I think the people know.
1:29:55There's skill down there. There's talent down there. But again, the politics haven't plugged into it. I don't know why, bro. You know, I have some good dudes down there. But really, if there was an artist coming out of San Diego who actually had the possibility of popping off, I mean, we know how it is. Any artist who has even the slightest little smidge of motion, everybody's chasing them down to sign them these days. I had my eye on one dude down there a few years when I was doing the Cash Money West thing. K.T. Forn. Oh, yeah, okay. You know, this was five, six years ago, right? I got a following.
1:30:28Yeah, you know, he was hard. But again, you know, I don't know what it is. But let's just be real. When you look at the statistics, it ain't there. The biggest thing that came out of there when we talk at Mainstream is jail felony. Nick Cannon. But see, Nick is like Travis Scott to Texas, Houston. Oh, yeah. You know, when you say his name, you think of some worldly shit. Yeah. Right? And then you said, oh, yeah, even though he has Astroworld, you don't even think about it because it's like yay is to Chicago. You think of some world. You don't just put them there. And Nick is definitely from Dago, right?
1:31:14But when we mention Nick Cannon's name, you know, he's kind of like placed on top of that mountain of just some worldly shit. Yeah. I mean, Nick Cannon just like is so big doing other stuff that nobody really thinks of him as a rapper. Yeah. Shout out Nick, man. Shout out nigga. We got some. We got a great call this morning. For sure. San Diego, I'm praying for y 'all to collectively get your heads out of your asses and realize that you got to actually get some motion and put the work in as a music city. if you want to be considered a music city. I'm sorry. Even like L.A. right now, kind of cold from a musical perspective.
1:31:48Definitely cold. You know? No, just real. But if you look at the top 10 most active L.A. rappers, it's like, well, number one, Kendrick Lamar. Okay, case closed. We're done. It's not even close. You know, we have the biggest rapper, aside from Drake, in the world. Yeah. So we'll be real about that. But as you get to the bottom of the list, you are like, oh, shit. Even LA, it's kind of tough to come up with like 10 really lit rappers. Okay, listen. Top five LA rappers. Currently. Currently, right now. Active. Kendrick Lamar.
1:32:27Blue Face. I would put him top five, perhaps. Top five. Active. We're talking about right now. You got to like add in everything else, but yeah. Yeah, I'm just asking, you know, when you say a name. rappers. I feel like even like Shoreline Mafia and really like Ojeezy kind of deserves a mention. Yeah, he's still doing his shit. What did he say? Tyler the Creator. Tyler the Creator. If you really want to expand to Doja Cat. Doja Cat. Definitely. You know. And the other dude's been working because he did some Gangsta Grill shit and all that. Game's working. You know what I'm saying? He's still working.
1:33:14But I mean, once upon a time, if we had this conversation five years ago, right, we could run it off. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Roddy Ricch, this dude, that dude, this dude. We could run it off. Yeah, I mean, if you actually go and look at the list of the top songs that came out of L.A. in 2018, it is fucked up. That's crazy. It's blockbuster hits. Yeah, I mean, this list is insane. interesting because it puts... Let me see the one and two. This must be the underground. No, no. This is just... Ask the AI top 10. They go Kendrick, Tyler, 310 Baby, Rayvon, which... Blast. I love Blast, but I don't know what he's been doing lately.
1:33:50I love Blast. Yeah, Kalen for real. Love Rayvon for real. Big Sad, Westside Boogie, which it says TDE Artist. Westside Boogie is hard, but I don't know what he's been doing. And then you got Jay Worthy down there. Yeah, I mean... Which I don't know. Which, you know, I give him an A for his hustle. I mean, he's from Canada. But even somebody like Chef Boy. He ought to bomb the West Side. But Chef Boy. Oh, yeah, you got to put Chef Boy in there. Yeah, I mean, he hasn't exactly exploded into a national star or whatever, but he has a song that is so hot that when Blueface is playing in the club, he plays that song because that is to the outside world.
1:34:26That is like what L.A. rap is from a more underground perspective these days. But that Chef Boy song is bigger than any song to have ever come out of San Diego. I'm sorry. hey maybe there's like a slight exception but like but i mean here go the thing adam how about this we start with mitchy slick and let's let mitchy tell us who some of the dudes down there that he feel is bubbling and hustling and then let's start giving him some some shine on the on the on the problem is is that everybody and i'm for sure willing to hear him out in that regard but it's like everybody wants to be like we got a lot of talent like mother talent moves the needle yeah that's a fact you might have people you think are cool listen i got rappers i think are cool but i'm not gonna sit here and tell you how great they are because if they're not on that level that they're moving the needle then you know like what you're doing the proof has to be in the pudding if you really make dope music where's your fan base where's the show where's the show where you got 500 people to come out because if you can't show me that then i don't really give a fuck about your talent you know if you don't got a song that could get a couple hundred thousand views on YouTube or whatever, then how talented are you really?
1:35:32When we say talent, I'm expecting there to be some significant amount of people who want to actually listen to you f***ing make music. If nobody's paying attention, then it's not good. Okay, where were you when Ice Spice was getting slapped up in McDonald's? I feel like you should have been there protecting her. The only thing I can say is, it wouldn't have happened at Wendy's. Why? You're a Wendy's patron? No, you didn't see the song, the video. They remixed the song bro with the lookalikes. It wouldn't have happened. There ain't no way you missed that shit. Are you talking about the AI version?
1:36:05Whatever. I don't give a fuck what it was. That shit was hysterical. That shit was... Oh shit. Oh okay. Here we go. Oh yeah. This was the AI thing I watched but I don't think I saw like the actual song part. I just saw... This is a game. That wouldn't happen at Wendy's. that wouldn't happen at wendy's that wouldn't happen at wendy's that wouldn't happen at wendy's i was at mcdonald's when a got crazy i was with my and the tried to play me like what what like damn damn we were just trying to get nuggets that wouldn't happen at wendy's that wouldn't happen at wendy's That wouldn't happen at Wendy's That wouldn't happen at Wendy's I got slapped at McDonald's Got slapped at McDonald's Got slapped at McDonald's That wouldn't happen at Wendy's I got slapped at McDonald's Does she have a Wendy's deal?
1:37:01Is that real? I don't know Why are they emphasizing Wendy's? I have no idea Maybe Wendy's just got lucky Wait, she tweeted that? Oh, she tweeted that? There it goes Wow, that's hilarious
1:37:20bro like wait look even in her bio on on twitter it says at wendy's princess i didn't like the fact that that happened i don't know what happened i don't know if dude she has a whole wendy's deal hashtag wendy's partner yeah she's she's hyping wendy's up a lot i mean pretty good i like wendy's i'll take wendy's over mcdonald's i don't know um what happened i hope that's not a situation where somebody was just hating on her. You know, because the first thing they're going to say, oh, they go L.A. on their, you know, against New York type shit. Yeah. Out the gate, and nobody has an issue with ice.
1:37:55But I don't know. I don't know. Maybe they had a sterile. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what happened. That's crazy, though, because, like, I'm the type of person where, hey, I went into a fucking Shake Shack the other day, sat my ass down, and read Twitter, and ate my fucking burger and fries, and didn't even think twice about it. I'm not tripping. but if I was as famous as Ice Spice yeah I think you're way past sitting in the McDonald's we have Postmates for this that's a fact now I get it you like moving around but I mean come on like you're Ice Spice you're famous as fuck that's a fact I don't know why she was sitting in there I don't know maybe she was I don't know what area she was in but I do know this Hollywood Boulevard I do know this in 20 this is 2026 2027 2028 somewhere between 2028 and 2029 when David leaves the reception of CDC they're gonna violate him and he will be unaligned.
1:38:54Yeah? Everything's gonna green light him. But you think they're gonna like allow that to happen to him? Isn't he gonna be in a similar situation to Eric Shittiko's? No. No? He from 6-0. And 6-0's is divided. Some niggas with him some niggas ain't. Okay. This dude was having sex allegedly with an underage girl. And allegedly had a huge trove of child porn on his phone. Yeah, and then he, the unalive, the body was in the damn front for four months, stabbed her two times and her eyeballs missing. Let me explain something to you. Those dudes in those penitentiaries got cell phones and they watching the news, right?
1:39:32Crips, Bloods, BGF, Mesquite Mafia, Aryan Nation. Yeah. Right? Muslims, Christians 50-50 SNY PC everybody's going to green light him it don't matter where he goes yeah he doesn't stand a chance like no support at all yeah isn't that why they're going to not put him around anybody? no you got to hit a yard You do? You're going to hit a yard. There's no like extreme PC where you're not around any other prisoners. Oh, I mean, unless you, you know, you stay in the hole, but I don't, you know what I'm saying? If you just say, hey, I just want to stay in solitary. And even in there is ways where they put you on the exercise yard.
1:40:26Shit happens. You got to remember, Torrey Lanes. Yeah. Got hit on a 50-50 yard. Right. And that was allegedly over a chick dude who thought Torrey was, and he wasn't, but whatever, right? Bro, every group, every faucet of any organization in the California Department of Corrections is going to be lining up to knock dude off. That's a coveted body right there. So whoever was involved with him in this, they're going to let him know that, and they're going to make him tell on everybody that was involved to make him believe, lead him to believe that they may give him some amnesty. They're not. I mean, who could he tell on?
1:41:15Like maybe his managers and shit probably knew about it, but what the feds care about? Who knew about it? Oh, no. If you assisted, you carried the body. If you buried the knife. If you, oh, yeah, they want all y 'all. Right. But dude, dude is finished. I thought he had zero support. Yeah. Even like all the artists who've done music with him took down their collabs, which is pretty damning. Bro. Yeah. I don't know if we ever seen that. And I'm going to tell you this. The fact that they arrested him and saying the motive was she was threatening him, this, this, that. That means they found something.
1:41:51Yeah. They have found something. We haven't seen it yet, but they found some back and forth, some notes, a diary, something in the phone with her making these threats or whatever, whatever it may be. And guess what? Whoever parked that car on his block, they didn't like him either. Because he had no idea that that situation wasn't handled, taken care of, probably said go burn the body, bury the body. That body was in that Tesla for four months. You get what I'm saying? So somebody, he probably was on tour, somebody parked that car on that block knowing what he wasn't home, he just saw the car like, what's going on?
1:42:28But I saw something, I don't know, 100 % true but they were saying that one of the charges he has is like interfering in an investigation which infers that she had already reached out to authorities could have been probably for the underage because the family was reporting her missing yeah but that's just insane to think that she was already actually going through the process of reporting him well think about it before a woman gets to a point where her eyes plucked out and she stabbed twice in her upper torso So she's probably been beaten, slammed, choked, tied up. Ain't no telling what didn't happen.
1:43:03Yeah. What tripped me out, though, is I see her family gave up because it was no missing reports filed from the time, that four-month time frame she was unalive, to the time they found her in the trunk. Insane, man. Yeah, he's out of here. Rest in peace. Yep, he's out of here. Yeah, they're going to meet some things that he never thought existed. yeah they gonna jeffrey domer him he's definitely someone where i i hate it when people like joke around about dudes getting raped in prison or whatever like as if it's just some funny shit some funny vengeance or whatever but like if you hear some story about that david motherfucker getting his booty hole torn up it's gonna be funny as fuck yeah but they gonna fleece johnson it's gonna be tough to feel bad for him yeah i would love to see him and fleece johnson in the same room.
1:43:51He's done. I thought about every movement in there. Nobody's going to say, hey, bro, he black. We got him. No, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised when it happened. It'd be somebody from three, four different groups on him. He's done. It's going to be insane. All right, yo, shout out to everybody who watched this. For those who are watching live, we are doing another episode right after this one with Doughboy. Yeah, shout out Gucci Mane. Salute to Roderick. Shout out to Gucci Mane and shout out to everybody else who'd be telling. Please smash the like button, drop a comment, et cetera. And we will see y 'all in like 10 minutes.
1:44:30Roderick Davis told. There he goes. I saw you saying that. Okay. Shout out to everybody who watched this. Appreciate y 'all. Okay. And we out.
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