Tee Grizzley Snitched?? This is BAD! Flakko is in Hot Water in LA & More

26:26If you are a guy that's been on the internet, watched a lot of movies, maybe has some crazy uncles and shit going around. You've never been to jail, but you could talk the talk, walk the walk, getting tattoos a day ain't no thug shit. Everybody does it. They say, listen, I'm a fictional rapper. That way when stuff like this comes out, they can't say, well, you rapped and you said this, so you was a gangster. You was a street dude. But what the labels have done, how's the street cred? Not now, but back then. What's your street cred? Is his hood behind him? Is all that went towards building the artists, right?

26:59Because I'm going to be real. I know the homies be with T. Grizzly, but I've never heard T. Grizzly's blood or cuz. Me personally, he a cool dude. I don't look at him like a gangster dude. I know he can be slick and crafty in his own way, but who can't? He's from Detroit. He's from Detroit. But I don't know. I've never heard T. Grizzly as a gangbanger. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I can't. Oh, the AI says T. Grizzly is not a blood or a crip. He is associated with the Gangster Disciples Street Gang. He has been mentioned. He has mentioned being a member of the GDs in his music, and his gang affiliation is a reoccurring theme in his work.

27:37I did not know that. See, I don't. That's what I'm saying. So is he just an associate? He's also done entire mixtapes with Lil Durk. So apparently. I mean, bro, in first day out, he's saying snitch him, kill him if they snitching, and kill me if I'm snitching. Right? But, again, this is a situation where, like, right now, Now T Grizzly is like 80 % gamer right now. Well, he's a part of a gang called RTM. Well, I don't know. I'm saying gamer. Right. Well, now that game, right? He's still putting on music. Yeah. Yeah. But he's not. It ain't. I think his priority is his gaming. I think he's doing that every day.

28:14Yeah. He's definitely making a lot of money off that. Make a lot of money off that. So, you know, I'm in a bad spot because it's like I know T Grizzly. Every time we see each other, what's up, what's up is love. You know, I knew it was hot. Rest in peace. I attended the funeral, right? Saw the baby very close to him, but also no baby shooter. You know what I'm saying? So I know baby shooter. So it was like he'd been telling me for like a while. And I've been like, bro, unless you got something, I can't, what you want me to do? I mean, I am sympathetic to Tee Grizzly. If he had his home robbed and he was upset about it, obviously he didn't opt in to be involved in that sort of thing.

28:54but yeah i mean i feel like that shit once we start talking about telling the cops the instagram account of the person who robbed your house and supplying them with you you volunteering uh who it is out of a police lineup bro at that point he's got to have some really good excuses because if he says that paperwork is bullshit okay maybe that but like if he's gonna accept that those are things that he actually did yeah i don't know baby shooter in court right now right okay I done been on this, you know, the person that demands his phone ass, right? Okay. And because he said he was going to have it sent to me, and it came to me last night unexpectedly.

29:38But this morning, I woke up, and I hit his significant other, and I asked, listen, that's this morning. That's his direct line from that first yo. You say yo. Whoever has his phone says good morning. He said he was going to have someone send something. He's at court. He said, okay, is that real what he sent? So I have to wait to talk to him is what they said. Then you said, this is the paperwork I got. This is what I got going on about T. Grizzly. Did Shooter catch this ad charge? Yes. That's Grizz's paperwork. and when he calls me, I'll call you to clarify everything. Okay, cool. Yo, so, you know, it's what it is.

30:29You know what I'm saying? Look, man, the Exposers is real. It's a movement. Some of these people I know personally, this happened to be a situation, and I'm going to be real. A lot of dudes were scared to touch it because I really didn't want to be the one to let it go. Even this morning, I'm not seeing people jumping out the window to comment on this. I can't find the clip in which Shooter talked about this T. Gursley thing because I remember it being kind of awkward when we did the interview because it was so obvious that he knew a lot that he was not saying. Are you talking about the recording that came out when he was on the phone with a couple people and he said some things he shouldn't have said?

31:14I remember recording. I can't remember exactly and I can't find any of the details in my email. anything right now but i mean but okay i looked at instagram and twitter this morning for like an hour while i was eating and whatnot i did not see one person post about this besides you and christopher lovejoy i'm not gonna lie based on what you just showed me seems a lot more damning than a lot of other cases that we've given a lot of oxygen to like i mean the young thug thing okay very noteworthy yeah but not it ain't like that no we ain't see that well we kind of ate but Not quite. Yeah, a little different.

31:51But again, once again, shooters say he got a new ad charge. So we're going to see. Wow. Shooter going to go to the box with it. He's going to trial. So when he go to trial, dude got to get up there and dance. Oh, so you're saying that if T. But T. Grizzly doesn't give a shit if he goes to jail, right? So why would T. Grizzly get up and take the stand? He's not going to do that. This is what's going to happen. They're going to subpoena him. Okay. Right? If he don't show, it works the shooter's behalf. Right now, the case he got now has been two hung juries because the dude hasn't shown. They don't show up.

32:30They drop it. But they keep refiling. They can do it three times. If he does show, either he going to put a woody, I don't recall, or he going to— I don't know if T. Grizzlies got the acting chops to do a woody. He can do something, but...

33:15and giving up the IG, then it gets a little crazy. Yeah. We got to ask Sada Baby how he feels about this one. Sada Baby don't know nothing. He don't know what's going on. But he's had some ups and downs with T. Grizzly to say the least. But also keep in mind that T. Grizzly is now basically being accused of having his own aunt murdered, which is not a formal charge, but there's people making YouTube videos making a pretty strong case about that. And then he's also being accused of being a snitch. So it's kind of worst of both worlds is that you get accused of some crazy, violent murder for hire.

33:52And then you also get accused of snitching from a completely unrelated thing. The odd murder stuff, the most favorable thing with that is they claim she was pregnant and the autopsy show she wasn't pregnant. Right. They claim that she was pregnant by Tee Grizzly, allegedly. And this is why he did that. Right. But the hard time to say is to show she wasn't pregnant. Now, whoever this little, the shooter allegedly dude from Chicago or whatever, he beat the case, hung jury, whatever it was, right? I think they might have refiled on him, right? I think the whole situation is because T. Grizzly was there and he claimed he was in the house and the aunt's house claimed that he never came in the house.

34:40It's some inconsistencies. So if you're not in the house and you're standing on the porch and the people are running up to get you, T. Grizzly a big dude. Well, he was in the car with her. He pulls up to the house. He runs into the house. And then while he's in the house, these dudes with guns walk up on the car and basically kill his aunt. But they opened the door. Yeah. They didn't do a drive by. So the idea that they were there. I'm coming. We coming to get out of. We open the door in his letter. We just ain't at him. Right. Right. We ain't getting off 12 shots. Right. Unless we're supposed to.

35:18Now, the aunt said he wasn't in the house. In the paperwork doing the trial. So she that puts you on the porch. So if the dude's running up with guns and the porch is there and the car is here, they're going to see you. There's no shots fired at the house. So that was the inconsistency right there. As far as, you know, the dude that's supposed to be the shooter who beat it, he never mentioned Tee Grizzly's name. As far as the different whack 100 accusations of telling that we've dealt with over the years on this podcast. I can't put that one on it. But I'm just saying, this seems pretty good. Seems like well substantiated.

35:56But I think you have a little bit of a boy who cried wolf problem. Which one? You've accused so many other people of snitching that didn't really pan out. Who? I don't know, like the Max B thing. We got Max B paperwork. Rick baby. We got his work. So you want to put a bet up on Max B? I'm sure you got a lot of work. But I'm just saying, the reason why people are not immediately paying attention to this is because I feel like they've kind of tuned you out. That's cap. First of all, you can't put nobody on the table that we didn't call the rat that we didn't produce work on. Max B, we produced his work 18 months ago.

36:31Straight up told. I don't know what you talking about. he went and voluntarily met with the police right he knew the whole play because the girl called him with the play he told the police the girl works at this strip club and lives in these projects regardless of the truth of the situation I feel like if academics hops on stream this afternoon PSA academics we're going to need you to report on this and he says oh it's over for T Grizzly he told his whole career is over then I feel like people are going to act like his career is actually over I didn't really go into it. I didn't really want to.

37:06I sent it to everybody. I know the dude. Sider Baby got it. I sent it to him too. I sent it to everybody. I called Sider Baby personally. I called the homies that beat with T. Grizzly and told him, heads up, bro, they finna expose him. Right? I ain't really got the malice. Now, if I had the malice, I'd be up there beating my chest. It could be real loud. But it's not because I'm not tripping. But Shooter can at least say, well, Unc did what I asked him to do. Because if I was sitting in that county jail and I had somebody outside who I was cool with, I did a few things for, and I needed this to get out for whatever reason, I would expect him to do so.

37:47Am I full throttle at it? Nah. But did I at least put it out there? I put it out there. Now, if T. Grizzly wanted to deny it, cool. nephew he in court today he know he gotta have a conversation with me today soon as he come out he sent it he told me he was gonna send it months ago he said soon as my attorney get it bro he telling me the charge is coming are we entering into a new world in which in hip hop in the streets you're kind of allowed to tell on your ops or someone who does something that you were an unwilling participant in bro because it feels like there's like two different like telling on your homie is treated a lot differently than telling on somebody who attempted to do something to you.

38:33Telling is telling. But it feels like the world is treating it a little different. In today's world, and I'm glad since you said Max B, we're going to run a marathon on him. You did that. Apologies. No. The marathon continues. Think about 6ix9ine. 6ix9ine, granted, it was many years ago, but that was like the most divisive or decisive moment. That was a racist attack. But what I'm saying is it's like he gets accused of turning on his own gang. Boom. It's over. It was bad for him for years and years. On the other hand, you're looking at this situation. Oh, he told on the guy who broke into his house.

39:06I don't know if people are going to be as quick to go hard on. See, this is the thing. Stop talking street shit. If you ain't going to keep it in the streets. Shooters a little street nigga. You get what I'm saying? You know, you talking about what you talking about. and if Shooter didn't got at you, listen, if a dude called me and said, hey homie, I'm the one to hit your house. Get at me. I know we in the streets with it. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Now you know this happened like 2022. Yeah, yeah. He just gave this report 2024. Yeah. I mean Shooter damn near told me the whole story on the podcast.

39:43I'm pretty sure we edited it out. Yeah, I don't know. If he did do that, he out his damn mind. He said too much, but I think it got I edited it out. Yeah, I don't know what he said. I didn't, you know, I wasn't too familiar about it. I got a... The weird thing is the strange spelling of his name where it's like I have to search. I got a... I did get some audio sent to me of him targeting some people. I don't know if it was... It might have been pertaining to that situation. I don't know, but nevertheless, yeah, the streets is a myth, man. But I don't appreciate you lying. You was a liar, man. You got to tell me who we said was a rat and we didn't produce work on.

40:29It's a vibe thing. No vibe. You might feel like you have the information to the extent that you're supposed to have it, but I feel like the vibe is that you throw it around a little bit too loosely. Bro, if you was a rat and we got your work, it's gonna be loosely. What the f***? We're not typing. This is what it is. Boom, that's what it is right there. What you want to do? I'm telling you the vibe on the streets. Yeah, got it. When them people send me that audio clip, right? That's the audio clip. Now, if you hard of hearing, that's on you. You didn't keep it real about Aaron the Plumber. Who didn't?

41:07You didn't. You knew he told. Why didn't? And you talked about it. And then you took it back because you realized that he was cool with somebody that you were cool with. No. A real exposer would never. No, that had nothing to do with it. The problem was one of the dudes who was involved in that called me. He wanted to come out here. But I'm listening to his story, and he couldn't directly tell me that dude got out on him. He just was telling me they was there. You knew that I was beefing with him, and you still made Vlad remove him from that interview? yeah but what the I needed that at that moment I needed him to be a snitch you dick ride brick baby you ain't got to work I ain't seen anything on brick baby you ain't got to work oh no we see it all on brick baby y 'all just got amnesia well let me have some shit with 18 charges and I don't go to court for two and a half years and when I go into custody do you understand that brick baby was traveling around with you you understand what I'm saying?

42:16Let a motherfucker get popped by the feds. You can't move nowhere. Ain't no moving. The only people they let move is the ones that that's working. The only time we went anywhere was we went to Atlanta. We watched him go to Dallas. We watched him go to Florida. See, I'm watching everywhere he's moving. You get what I'm saying? So at the end of the day, you can't tell me in 2022 you got a parking lot shooting. And then 2023 of June, you get caught with all that because of wiretap. It clearly states an indictment. They ran in there because you was threatening to unalive the chick and the baby or whatever, right?

42:55So they ran in there. But you don't have no court dates. You tell me somebody, bro, who getting caught with all this shit with no goddamn court dates. And when you get caught, you let people know you hot. I'm hot. The only reason why you don't let people know you hot, because you working. You out here trying to turn in and line up plays with them people so when they decide to come get you, you didn't gave them enough where they're going to have some leniency on you. But you can't tell me nobody who's getting caught with three folk guns, AK-47s, ammunition, freeway shootings on the goddamn video, and you don't got a court date for two years.

43:29I'm sorry, bro. He's innocent. Anyway, next topic. Okay, what happened? Do you know Kevin McCall? Yeah, what about him? He crying about, you know, Like, nigga, you disrespected Chris Brown. We got a new main character unlocked. So I guess he used to write songs for Chris Brown back in the day. Yeah, they been calling me. His manager been calling me. Oh. He want to come on here. My thing, that's cool. Come through. My thing about it is this. Uncovered windows can make your home feel up to 20 degrees hotter. Stay cool and save up to 50 % off custom window treatments during the 4th of July mega sale at blinds.com.

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44:29You disrespected, you called Chris Brown gay? Did he? I believe you disrespected his child. This is back in the day? Not a couple years ago, you disrespected his child. This is how they fell out? Yeah, so why would this dude have any amnesty or feel sorry for you about anything? Yeah. Now, when he signed you and gave you a check initially is when he was showing you, I'm going to be a brother to you. Let's be friends. Let's build. When you chose to disrespect this man, call him gay, disrespect his child, at that point, bro, it's all its own. Yeah, I mean, that would be like something. You want to see that dude under a bridge with a leaky goddamn, like, you know?

45:16I mean, it would be like somebody who worked for No Jumper in 2015 or 2016, and they went on a podcast and were crying their eyes out saying, I helped Adam build this business, and now it's made this a ton of money. He ain't helped Chris Brown build shit. Well, if he wrote songs, I mean, that's good, right? Bro, Eric Bellinger didn't want to get a bunch of songs. You got paid for what you wrote. Probably a million people have helped Chris Brown. Okay, he paid you for what he wrote. I believe he signed dudes. What I'm saying is, if a dude, you was doing business with a dude, he's your editor, and you look up and he said, diss your wife, diss your daughter.

45:52Which I don't know about that. T-Rail. Oh, now you're talking about him? No. Would you ever, if T-Rail was going broke under a freeway right now, after what he said about your kid, would you give a damn? What I'm going to do, I'm going to go to Home Depot, I'm going to get a bucket of paint and I'm going to drive by there you go why should Chris Brown care yeah f*** him this is my thing about the Kevin dude too is that it's like you're crying and melting down on a podcast is there anything else that I need to prove to me that you are not of sound mind and that having you around as part of my operation is not a great idea and then he turns around and disrespects legends He said Mary J.

46:38Blige can't sing. Another, like, bro, like, at some point, when are you going to learn the politics of this business? You're a writer. Now you're throwing shots at people. Okay, let's say Mary's in retirement, other people in retirement. But what about the labels that's still tied to them, tied to their catalog, tied to their— I mean, who gives a f***? He just said that they can't sing. I mean, that's just an opinion, right? No, you can't. You talking crazy like, bro, you in the gutter. you don't want to ruin no possible relationship I agree but also like there is absolutely no chance that this is going to damage Mary J Blige's career but what if you want to go over here and do a deal with Sony Publishing but this dude is real close to Mary I mean yeah that's possible yeah definitely like making enemies in the game when you are on the ground floor is not a great idea but I mean this is the whole thing is like bro has had 10 years to figure some shit out I don't know how the f*** are you still just like wallowing in your own sadness like you know you should have been driving Uber and working at Amazon or doing anything you can to get your shit together like what and I understand life is hard life throws you curveballs you might have debt you might have shit that's f***ed up you might have child support all kinds of shit that makes life hard but I feel like 10 years is a pretty strong runaway to get your shit together he should have got one of these little young R &B dudes stayed behind the scenes, did the writing, got a hitter tool in there, then came out.

48:05On another note, who are these weenie dudes and these weird-ass people you got on the news? I have a whole variety of weenies. You got some chick back there. She looked like the chimpanzee from Planet of the Apes, right? Pie-faced looking chick. I heard about you being upset with this young lady. She's talking about, I'm dry-snitching because I'm talking about the parking lot shooting. Does this dumb implecile understand that all that's in the federal RICO indictment? About who, Brick? Yeah, you don't get that? Everything I'm saying is an indictment. And then you got this other little dude, the wigger.

48:43The white kid. I was just saying we got to bring wigger back. No. It's a good word. Well, yeah, the wigger. I mean, we all know what it means. Whoever this little black dude is. Well, he's white. Whatever the f*** he is. Well, what is it? He's trans. He looked black to me, but he acted like he was a white boy. We're still talking about the same white kid in New York drill official. No, I'm talking about this dude that was supposed to wonder. Whatever you did up here, this little black dude. Oh, Ricky. Yeah, Ricky. Formerly known as Spitphone. Dickie Mouth Ricky. So I guess he won't issue with me.

49:19Talking about, I got emotional and I spend narratives. I don't spend narratives. I put the facts on the table. You know what I'm saying? On some real shit. Lush, I had a conversation with him. I said, bro, at any point, I don't like you. I want you to call Brick. I just think whoever you in front of, you become them. You fake. Lush. Be you. Yeah, I hate that. That's the Tupac shit. You know what I'm saying? Lush was just so happy that you compared him to Tupac that he seemed like he kind of skipped past the fact that you were criticizing him. And then you in here with the peanut butter, man. The homies is on his bumper.

49:51K5 and all them. then stabbed it. That happened to him in the county jail. Them real homies was pushing real lines in that county jail. It's a fact. And when y 'all talking about the Flocko day, and Lush says, yeah, Wack doesn't like me because of this with Brick. And I like the way y 'all did it. This dude says he sticks that giraffe neck out and says, well, why doesn't he like Tupac? Y 'all totally ignored the dude. But whenever I ever set Tupac in my top five dead or alive, I've never said I didn't like Tupac. I just made me address a few things Tupac has done. If Tupac was a rapper right now, we would all call him a fake.

50:29Like a m***h. Yeah, not even close. Fake as hell. And I don't care what you say. Tupac was in the penitentiary for a rape case. We ain't respecting none of that. I don't give a damn what you're talking about. Right? When he died, he died a rapist. It's not the most valid. Okay, you got a daughter like I got one. Slow down. Because if your daughter came home and told you, Daddy, they took advantage of me. You watch the video of her saying it? You ain't, no, I'm saying it. You watch the Vlad interview with her? I watched all that, but I understand. See, what happened was this. The woman generally liked Pac, right?

51:04We know that. I'm just saying she's a looney tune. No, no, listen. I'm going to tell you exactly what happened. Because I didn't got on my homies for even attempting back in the day doing this type of shit. You know, Roder was infamous for this shit. She really came over there for Pac. She was with Pac. Pac did what he did and left. Now, let me ask you something. If you got a chick in your room, right, and two of your homeboys is in the living room watching TV, when you walk out that door, they not going to take it upon themselves to go in there. But if you say, hey, bro, shit, she in the room, get to it.

51:40That's not good. Right? She said when she walked in the hotel, she saw the dudes with a pistol on the table already. before she made it to the bedroom with Pac. Right? So now she willingly went in there with Pac. She ain't fighting that. But when Pac left and you tell them two in that living room, hey, bro, y 'all go do your thing? And they went in there and she's saying they took that against her will? That's on you? The one that got me, like, I remember when Greedo went viral for saying Tupac, or I don't want to talk about Tupac, started talking about Tupac, it was because he was actually being interviewed, and they keep asking him about Tupac.

52:21And Greedo says, man, I don't give a f*** about Tupac. I got a metal leg. Which is what he's saying right there is like, I've been shot. I'm really from the hood. I really put in pain and work in this shit. You're comparing me to a f***ing actor. That's a fact. Yeah. Now, listen. I appreciated Greedo's honesty on that. Was Tupac a great rapper? Yes, he was. What I didn't like about Tupac is wherever he went, he turned into that. It's a dude down here. I gave him the name Frisco Chuck. He's from Fillmore, right from the Bay. He's been down here 15-plus years. He's been around the bloods, majority bloods and Crips.

53:04But you don't hear him say cuz of blood or acting like or picking up our mannerism. He's still a Fillmore guy. right everywhere Tupac went he turned into that and he brought it down here to a real jungle and didn't last a year 11 months do you think if Tupac had not died and soon after there was a death row Rico you think he would have told definitely yeah for sure right you think he's going to sit in prison for 10 years I don't think so he wasn't going to do that people want to say what they want to say It's protective custody orders that's out there about what was going on with dude. And that's what it is.

53:49So it ain't that I don't like. Nigga, I love Pac music. Pac, Cube, Scarface, LL, cats like that, always going to be in my top five, dead or alive. That's a fact. That's what I grew up on. Oh, yeah. And when I listen to those classic Tupac albums, I am not thinking about the fact that his street thread is dubious. But if that's why I understand what the blind man was saying. out of nowhere, like, why does he like Tupac? I'm like, I love Pac music. Ice Cube would tell you he started this gangster shit, but if you ask me, Wack, is Ice Cube the most gangstas rapper you know? I'm going to say no, because he didn't mean, like, as far as his actions in the streets.

54:32He's talking about that style of rap or what that is. And we saluting for that because he pretty much opened up doors to show other cats that's really living that what you can do to generate some income. For sure. I want to touch on this topic. We didn't really get a chance to talk about it on any of the other shows, but NLMB GFAB, so No Limit Muskegon Boys, which is like a very, very famous hood in Chicago, but this guy GFAB arrested for allegedly murdering J-Dog in Chicago. Police reportedly identified him in surveillance footage by his limp. Do we know who these dudes was before this? Okay, so yes, but for a pretty brief period of time so basically this dude j-dog had been going off on g herbo right they're all from nlmb and so j-dog had been disrespected in g herbo and basically saying you can't come back to your hood all this type of shit a few different uh no limit members have kind of taken issue with g herbo over the years most notably uh no limit cairo and whatnot but so there's another no cairo another very reputable no limit member by the name of big op who if you want to believe the streets has a very uh checkered past of putting in work okay so this guy big op basically gets into a fight with j-dog like they meet up or they're on the block whatever and they fight the fight is not going big ops way so g fab who i believe is The one with the beard.

56:04Yes, who I believe is G Herbo's cousin or some shit. He pulls out two pistols at the same time and lays down J-Dog. Is this on video? Oh, that's what's on video. So at the very least, I don't know if there's a video, but at the very least there's a screenshot going around of him holding two guns at the same time, blowing dude down. And, you know. They only got him with the limp. Part of how they were able to get him was the fact that limp, although like looking at him here and then looking at him right here, I mean, this is like a pretty big, muscular guy. You know, this is kind of like hard to mistake the fact that.

56:39He got enough money. He got action. He got action to getting like a plea coming. Because the convicted dude on a limp on the back, they're going to want to, you know. If I did that and I know they have the limp and they came at me with like 8 to 12, I'm jumping on that. I mean, that's why they were able to arrest him. I assume now that they have access to his phone and everything else, the GPS data. I'm sure they're going to be able to put the situation together better than they have so far. But either way. So this is all based upon J-Dawg saying G-Herbo can't come back to his hood. Yeah, I mean.

57:14G-Herbo, check this out. Check this out. He always been all right. G-Herbo, don't go back to the hood for what? Go somewhere, buy you some property. You know, look at what Lil Boosie then did. and go back when you need to go back how you got to go back. But these dudes be telling these people, come back to the hood. It's a bait. It's a trap. Half the time they want to get into a bang out with you, call the police. It's a lose-lose situation. I mean, a lot of times it takes a while for people to get arrested after this kind of thing. In this case, it took the feds three weeks to make an arrest.

57:52And so that seems pretty decisive as well. either way a lot of concern because people are looking at this and saying like okay so this guy diss G Herbo and then G Herbo's like cousin or brother or something ends up blowing him down right afterwards listen we gotta kill that narrative there's Ricos in the air people are worried about where this could go G Herbo is where he at whatever G Herbo this dude got against this other dude that's their personal business just cause they're related up from the same neighborhood and know each other don't mean that that's G Herbo driven. So knowing absolutely nothing about the situation and having found out about it three minutes ago, you're absolutely certain that you know exactly how it went down.

58:35What I know is G Herbo ain't had nothing to do with it. Listen, I would hope that that's the case as well. That being said, I would assume that everybody involved with this is going to have every single text message and phone call that they've made over the last couple of years scoured by the FBI. So if there is criminal activity afoot, I feel like it's probably going to be coming down the pipeline pretty soon. And we ain't got no paperwork or no audio or video. You gotta stop. This is why people be leery of sitting down with you. Because you be driving these narratives, bro, on these people. G Herbo name ain't even mentioning this shit.

59:13I didn't do anything besides read an Instagram post. But G Herbo wasn't there. So why is it even why are you even bringing up that G Herbo sent him to do that. That's crazy. So if you dissed LA, or if an LA rapper dissed you and then your good friend killed him a couple weeks later, you don't think that there would be reason for, you know, worry that maybe this could cause some issues for you? Hey bro, listen. Seems like common sense. Why are you dick riding Herbo so hard? No, this is a black man who minded his business, doing whatever he's doing. He ain't been there, it's obvious. is they telling him he can't come back.

59:52Now, if dude and this dude got a personal issue, you can have an issue with somebody, and I can have an issue with a person too for a total different reason, right? And what people would do sometimes is use that time frame to do something because they know they're going to put the blame on you. In this situation, maybe G Herbo is related to the dude, but there's nothing there to say he went over there and got into it with dude behind. Didn't they stage the fight? They set the fight up, right? I'm not 100 % sure, but I think the fight basically like stemmed from the disrespectful shit about Herbo that he had been saying online, which it's pretty easy to like follow how all of these things are connected.

1:00:33The question is if the feds are going to be able to put together a case connecting everything together. I think if this dude is related to G Herbo, he related to G Herbo, looks like he's older than G Herbo. Maybe he took it upon himself to say, hey, that's that fool been speaking on my little relative and address it. Right? Well, I think it's because he had the fight with Big Op where he allegedly whooped him. Well, at the end of the day, what that got to do with G Herbo? Bro, Big Op had been speaking out for G Herbo, basically saying, ain't nobody banning my homie from the block. Okay. So I'm just saying, all these things are clearly connected.

1:01:07The question is, are the feds going to be able to connect it? Listen, bro. In a way that incriminates G Herbo. Y 'all better pay attention to what's going on, bro. You damned if you do, damned if you don't. Right? Because this narrative you driving is crazy. I don't think G. Herbo has nothing to do. The narrative that I'm putting out there is probably the least crazy narrative in the history of this podcast. The narrative I'm putting out there is a series of events that are blatantly connected. No, they're not. What is not connected? Hey, bro, it's shit that go on to my neighborhood every day.

1:01:38Tell me, what might not be connected? It's shit that go on to my neighborhood every day. I don't give a fuck about your neighborhood. We're talking about this neighborhood. It's the same shit. What is going on in this that you don't? What did I put out there that's not connected? G Herbo's name is not there anywhere. He wasn't at the scene. He wasn't at the fight. Dude didn't take off on G Herbo. G Herbo didn't jump and ask you being speed off. Then the cousin pulled up, jumped out, and started gunning. We don't even know G Herbo was in Illinois. Probably not, yeah. Okay, then. So how would you feel?

1:02:06You just corrected a bunch of things that I absolutely never said. So thank you for wasting a bunch of fucking breath. What we're saying is, all I never once did, I didn't say G Herbo was there. I didn't say that he was involved. He did it because of G Herbo. Yeah. And a Rico. Well, no, actually, I think he did it because of Big Up. You know what Rico means? That means they charging a motherfucker who didn't necessarily do it hands on himself, but had it done. What if they find text messages that suggest that in any way G Herbo prompted anyone involved? Not going to happen. G Herbo's been a father, and he's been building himself and conducting other business.

1:02:40He don't care about them dudes saying he can't come somewhere that he worked so hard to get away from. Who gives a damn about it? You can't go to New Hampshire. Well, he does give a damn because he spoke out about it as well. If the white boys that we saw on Twitter, right, keep screaming you can't go to New Hampshire, do you care? What white boys? Come on, bro. We ain't going to talk about it because they didn't see it. The ones that said you can't come back. Do you care? Nobody said that. Do you care about that? Nobody's ever said that. Do you care about that? Nobody's ever said that. What? Who has ever said I can't?

1:03:11And I love how you drive this conversation in a totally absurdist direction. Nobody has ever said that. Because we're going to get off G. Herbal. Listen, if there's tough dudes in New Hampshire, I would love to know about it. I'm going to go be besties with them, but I ain't never seen it. I bet you I can find somebody in New Hampshire that will whoop your ass. Yeah. Spoiler alert, they're biker dudes, and they're going to whoop your ass in the parking lot just like those other white boys. Never got my ass whooped in the parking lot. That went the other way. I've seen the whole footage. Yeah. No, you didn't.

1:03:37Oh, yeah. I know for a fact you did. Ground and pound. Bah, bah. Didn't happen. Didn't happen. You were looking like a hamburger helper. Dude got caught with a faint laugh. Lucky his little buddies was coming. Okay, so we discussed that, or we tried to discuss that, even though Wack was playing interference. And then the other G Herbo-related thing is the fact that he has taken up issue with Vlad. I seen Vlad had this whole clip where he's talking about basically how he's disappointed that, uh, G Herbo doesn't do interviews with him anymore. And then G Herbo wrote this whole spiel going in on, you know, Adam, you know, if you get one out of 10, who you helped build from the beginning, that just genuinely keeps it real with you.

1:04:27That's a whole lot. You know, Vlad knows that too. Like, you know what I'm saying? People seem to, um, catch amnesia or maybe don't understand that. what that move really did for them. Because you're having music playing on the radio, but Vlad's a big deal. No Jumper was a big deal. We talking about especially back then to get that visual. What visual? Of him interviewing on Vlad. Who? G Herbo. Right? Vlad saying he helped G Herbo out in the beginning, and he ain't saying he made his career, but the interview he did with him, absolutely with Vlad, the platform being what it is, helped push his career, which probably made him attractive for other people.

1:05:12It's conversation. So I guess, I don't know if G Herbo, I guess Vlad might have reached out for an interview. I don't know. When you have an artist, like with Blueface, for example, do you tell them that they should mostly, like if you were controlling them, would you mostly say, hey, you should stay on good terms with the people in the media that you have good relationships with? I tell them stay on good terms with everybody. But I tell all my artists the same thing the minute I sign them. Who you are today is not going to be who you are when the fame comes. You're going to change. They all tell me, no, I'm not.

1:05:47And all of them change in their own little way. Right? But I don't think, I'm going to be real, I don't think G Herbo really understood what Vlad's platform represented. Well, that is kind of what he said is that basically, even though Vlad was the one calling him, that he was kind of just doing whatever his team told him to do. And also, you got to keep in mind, a lot of those Herbo interviews are like literally 10 years old. And 10 years ago, the media space was different. It was kind of like you should probably just do every interview or every piece of media that you can do. Now, there's so much media that realistically, somebody like Herbo could pick and choose.

1:06:26And the thing is, like, one of Vlad's complaints is that Herbo will go on podcasts and get like 600 views. The thing is, that was like a podcast with 600 views, can still be chopped up and clipped and a clip from that podcast can still make its way to the academics account or world star or whatever it's like if you choose to say something exhilarating on any platform it's going far it doesn't matter if you say it on a big platform like vlad you can say it really wherever so somebody like g herbo does have the the option of picking and choosing what media he wants to do now in a way that 10 years ago he didn't realistically in black defense 10 years ago, Vlad was still a big deal.

1:07:06Right, but he was kind of like one of the only shows in town, realistically. Because at that time, yeah, you have Breakfast Club, but it's tough to get on Breakfast Club. We didn't look at Breakfast Club as a podcast. And they weren't going to f*** with random real rappers. Breakfast Club like radio. Like going to talk to Big Boy. That's how we looked at it. Because it's Hot 97. We didn't look at it back then as a podcast. Your ass going to Breakfast Club, you're on Hot 97. you got a chance your song gonna be in rotation you know what i'm saying it's things like that but i get it but vlad should know it's like you get one out of ten that's gonna keep it real with you that's a lot yeah i mean like strategically i do think he's giving herbo like good career advice but the reality is is that the game has just changed and rappers get to pick and choose who they want to with and a lot of them you know they just i mean vlad has an image and that image is is this is a mixy platform that is going to basically talk to you about all kinds of shit, including stuff that you realistically might not want to talk about.

1:08:07Whereas if you go on Shannon Sharp, they're not going to ask you about some street shit. You know, he's going to talk to you about your career. You go on Gillian Wallow. They're going to do some motivational speech and talk about how going to jail is bad or whatever their kind of themes are. But like, you know, if you go on Vlad, it's probably going to say, hey, in 2014, you were beefing with this rapper. and then that rapper ended up dead. Speak to me about that. That's a normal Vlad question. That's a normal No Jumper question. But a lot of these platforms won't hit you with that. That's a normal Adam 22 question.

1:08:40I'm not asking nobody about no bodies. I mean, my whole thing is I'm going to ask you about anything I find interesting. And if you don't like the question, then you A, could tell me that you don't want to include it. That's fine. Or you could just say, no, I've got nothing to say about that. Look at them blue eyes twinkling. there it go I mean it's about content it's about what the people want to see but you don't give a f*** if he incriminates himself keep it real but if he incriminates himself that's his own fault but if you would have never asked a question no I mean I'm glad this is a made up example because I don't know of any bodies that have been associated with him so there are questions that you know he's probably not going to answer this but if he does answer this this could screw him up nah huh oh if he answers it and tells me a bunch of illegal behavior that he's involved in sure yeah okay okay that's what i'm saying but that's my thing is my why ask that question because my duty is to the fans even if it gives him 10 years no i assume that the person i'm interviewing is not retarded enough to incriminate themselves but also my duty is to the fans.

1:09:55But you know, we get a few of them. That's a little slow. The fans. No, the rappers and the people we interview. Cause we have, I will be real and your defense. Sometimes you are asked a shallow question and they just keep going on it. And then once they keep going, you chime in and say, so you're saying that you, and they keep going. That's not, I haven't personally had that opinion or that experience. No. Not really. They just shut it down or they answer it. I mean, listen. Who's the one artist that you asked something that you felt later on when you looked at the clip probably shouldn't have said anything that you asked?

1:10:37I don't know. It's hard to think of an example. The ones I had dealings with, they began to talk, and I just questioned them about what they was talking about. The worst one I had was loose candy. Well, he comes to mind for sure. But I mean, just in general, it's like. But you didn't ask that then, I don't think. I don't think. Well, I don't even know of anything illegal that he's been involved in to ask about, really. Well, the shit was in the paperwork. But you're talking about a dude who puts out videos of him beating the shit out of people in public all the time. I was like promotional. No, we talk about prior to that.

1:11:08You're right. And there was some prior to that that nobody knew nothing about. I didn't know nothing until Gigi pointed him out. But again, I will say, if you start talking about something at this table, I'm going to talk about it with you. If you say woo-de-woo-de-woo, I'm going to say, so you saying this, this, this, this? Because I want some clarity on what you're saying because we have to act as if the fans want to get clarity. If somebody told me that they killed somebody, for sure I would not release that clip. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile. Well, now, I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for$15 a month is back.

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1:13:12No, I think that there was another guy in the prison who had thought that he was pregnant. No. They thought that they could get pregnant through their booty hole. Which maybe you can. Dude did what he did with the man. And the man was stuffing sheets up on his shirt and told him he was pregnant. And Flea said he was so inexperienced he thought the dude was pregnant. And he went and told the warden that when my baby is born, I know the baby can't stay here. but can you put the baby somewhere where I can visit the baby because my boyfriend is pregnant, right? But what was crazy, I'm listening to it, and it's on somebody else's page, but they sped your voice up.

1:13:49So it was like he was talking to a girl? No, it was like you couldn't really tell who was at. You know what I'm saying? Because most people would have heard that and went back to No Jumper. Let me go find this. You get what I'm saying? So I'm going to get with the team. Those of y 'all playing games, using No Jumper content, leave it as is. Because we can go over there and get that. Use no jumper content in your own risk. Yeah, stop playing. Your people got blamped. Yeah, that's a fact. No, but yo, dude is they need to do a movie on dude. He's a different type of... I would call it the bandit.

1:14:25The market. Fleece and the bandit. Boy, he's the booty warrior not a booty bandit, but also I just feel like the market for movies What the hell is the difference? a bandit is like a small time thief a warrior is really going out there building an enterprise well bandits out here they taking it yeah well he actually said he never raped anyone oh everybody he did it with was willing although I feel like the line of who's willing when it comes to man on man prison sex is kind of a blurry line yo the dude not have teeth in his mouth I think he might have been missing teeth but I don't know. I wasn't in the same room as him.

1:15:06A little different. He was kind of trying to feel me out like if I would be a good sister. Trying to feel you out. Yeah, he was kind of feeling me out. I don't use that word too much but pause. Yeah. He was a pretty cool guy. I should really go to Kentucky and hang out with him. Oh, you want to hang out with him? Whoa. You want to look him in his eyes? He told me that he had booty behind the walls that's better than any pussy that he ever had on the outside. So you want to hang out with him? You want to go to the bar? The bar? The barn? You go to the bar. Okay. I ain't going to the barn. You go to that bar long enough, you'll end up in the barn.

1:15:43That's a fact. I'm down for a roll in the hay. Yeah, I bet you are. Okay. Hey, plug talk. I'll plug them. Plug them right up. Oh, shit. Adam, I think one day you're going to really cross the line and try some shit. Yeah, I hope that you're around so I can make you the— No, I ain't going to be nowhere around. So I can make you the— I hear this dude finesse two times back. He having a rough year, bro. So what, he got busted for drug charges? I guess it's—I seen him a couple months ago. He was at a club or something, and him and a chick got pulled out, and they found some weed or something, which is illegal in Texas.

1:16:24Now this is some more drug charges. He look high as a kite right there. I blame just Texas in general, man. Like this is just a state that you just shouldn't live in. If you want to avoid problems with the law, they're just, they're on the rappers out here. They're just not tripping in the same way. Especially if you doing a lot of drugs. Yeah. No, he's definitely looking at the very least a little tired. He just went and he turned himself in and showed him some love on his violation. They let him go. this post only got 1100 likes they don't they're off dude I think Honeycomb Brazy he's out right Honeycomb Brazy just got out and put out a song actually that I haven't got a chance to listen to yet but that did happen you shot a video to it what's it doing what's the numbers that's a good question let's see Honeycomb Brazy 15 hours ago 159k oh he just put it out Yep, yep.

1:17:28I mean, that's a good start. Probably have a couple M's pretty soon. He's actually, he's kind of, some would say he's like the king of, wait, look, he dropped another video eight days ago, 1.7 million. I don't know if that was from before, but yeah, and before that, it was a year. He was on a year, two years? I think it was about a year. Crazy. Very crazy. so they actually found a suspect before it had been reported that the guy who killed say so p and also shot sauce walker when they got robbed in memphis it had been reported that the guys who did it had then been killed in houston no one one of them okay but now we have three dudes we have a new suspect kevin kj brown uh who is wanted in a downtown memphis shooting that killed rapper Sey So P and injured Saswaka.

1:18:24He was actually arrested in Tennessee in Clarksville on Wednesday. They told him. And then there was the other suspect, Jaden Dandridge. He's the one who was found dead in Houston. So it does look like we're going to get a little bit of it. It was three people, driver, two shooters. One got killed. You know, they tracked him. The cameras tracked him from all the way there to wherever they went. Yeah. you know hey bro listen back in our day if they would have had this camera work they had back then we would have all been in jail no it's totally out of control I was watching like a thing about some mafia dudes where in New York City they painstakingly got security footage from like every single different business for like miles and miles and miles so they could track this guy's car just so they could figure out who did a shooting and it's just like how could you ever hope to get away with anything you can't bro you seen the um the gambling ring the rest yeah crazy so now i finally i don't know if there's that some gilbert arenas related type situation i think it's uh totally unrelated but uh this actually gives me an opportunity to talk about poker in a situation where i never normally get to talk about poker the fbi says that the mafia used portland trailblazers coach chauncey billups and x-ray tables to cheat victims out of seven million dollars in illegal poker games so let me tell you this all over la and really in any in any state in the country where there's money there's people running poker games out of their homes la has a lot of sort of famous ones that have been going on for years and years and years and people have always kind of warned me like pros like really good poker players have warned me hey you're gonna get invited to games that seem incredibly good in people's houses and they've basically told me don't take the bait don't do it because it's so easy for them to cheat in these situations and they're able to cheat in such sophisticated ways that you're realistically probably never going to be able to tell that you were cheated so anytime you play outside of a casino you need to be unbelievable yeah the x-ray x-ray tables there's a lot of different things they can do though people okay i'll tell you something another way that they've got people hard thing okay okay there's two two main things that i'm aware of number one the card shuffler you can shove a usb in that that has a computer program on it and it will sort the deck exactly as you want it so like it'll give you a really really good hand and it'll give me a really good hand that's a little bit better than yours nobody could blame you for getting it all in with four kings but when i have four aces i'm gonna take all your money right like you would have to be insane to think that there was any reason not to get all in when you have four kings but then i have four aces now granted but they could also make it a lot more subtle than that they can make it because in that situation a lot of people are going to be like what the that's shady that hand is so statistically improbable that you're probably cheating me but then they got other shit too check this one out you put contact lenses in right that's what i heard and then all the cards when i look at those cards with my with my contact lenses i could tell exactly what that card is so i'm sitting here playing you in poker and i know every single card that is out on the table i mean what are we talking about dying poker games doing that no so what do they do they just throw them out um i would say that in the sort of like underground world maybe there could be some street justice but there's no there's no like social thing that tells people not to tell if you get caught yeah i've never heard about anybody having anything violent happen to them in the poker world ever so what happens like how did the white people say hey you cheat you know what they do you know twitter thread like you you know you're you're you're a shit bag is that what they do it's not even like that because that's like angry what they do is there literally will be a twitter thread hey i uh i let cas jones borrow half a million dollars to play poker and he lost it and he scammed me and he's not responding to my messages there'll be a twitter thread they'll tell everybody in the poker world hey retweet this respond to this etc and then that person's name basically becomes dog shit in the poker world and a lot of times like other games won't let you play or i don't think you're gonna like if you cheat you will be banned from playing tournaments not just on the site where you cheated but other tournaments as well like the poker world comparatively does do a pretty good job of kind of like annexing people out who are cheaters and everything.

1:23:07But yeah, if you, if you rip somebody off, lots of social pressure for you to pay them back or for you to, you know, be excluded from things in the poker world, but nobody's beating you up. Nobody's shooting you. Never heard anything like that. Oh, I know it's kind of, it's kind of different compared to rap. It is. They shouldn't have told black people that they can go get a half a million. Only thing they're going to get is a tweets and all about them. shit. I know. No violence? They ain't calling the police? Nobody getting shot? Well, hey, you know what I was thinking? Black community down kind of bad today.

1:23:43What? What happened? I mean, Al Sharpton had a lot of respect in the game and now it turns out he's a snitch. Who is? Al Sharpton. Al Sharpton's not a snitch. I messaged you about this earlier and you told me that's old news. He's not a snitch. How's he not a snitch? Is Al Sharpton a gangster He's on the streets. I think it would be fair to say at one point he was kind of wrapped up in that. Well, he became a snitch because they caught him in a drug deal, right? That's what I read, but I'm not. Okay, let me ask you something. Can't use him.

1:24:18Do you think that. If they said. Farrakhan was working with the government that people would see him as a snitch? I don't know of Farrakhan necessarily. He's not, but I'm saying... But I'm saying I don't know of him having any kind of street experience. Granted, when I say that about Al Sharpton, I found out about it this morning. But Al Sharpton, he's always been like a black advocate. He wasn't Black Panther. What if you found out that he was basically turning in the leaders of black street gangs? Black street gangs? Helping to supply information about not just street gangs, but people who are selling large amounts of drugs and stuff like that.

1:25:05But what if it was ultimately things that benefited the community? Hey, this guy's selling heroin all over Chicago. Get him. Boom. They get him. I would expect that in you. Yeah, I guess you're right. It's kind of like the best thing. I don't believe Farrakhan will cooperate with the government and do that. But Vercom would probably send some of these people out to have a conversation about what they're doing and where they're doing it at. Find somewhere else they're doing it. They probably shouldn't be doing it at all. But, I mean, you know, when it comes to civilians, bro, I don't call civilians.

1:25:43I would never call you a snitch. I can care less if you wouldn't have got up to stand on 50 people. I would never call you a snitch. I don't see you. You're a civilian. I would for sure tell on someone. That's what I'm saying. If I walk out of here one day and some guys beat the shit out of me and I know who they are, I'm calling the police department and I'm telling them who it was. I mean, hopefully I'll also get to shoot them. But in lieu of that, if you got money, I'm suing you. But I'm going to tell the cops just for the love of the game. So what if you called a dude, a punk bitch, and told him his raps is garbage and all this, and then he came up here and caught you and whooped your ass?

1:26:32Those things are actually like my responsibility as a journalist. I don't call myself a journalist, but a person who commentates on rap on the internet, it's my job to say that this shit sucks. And if he put hands on you, behind you doing that, and you know you did these things. 9-1-1. there you have it and that is like that's my superpower that's the ways of a civilian i'll whoop your ass and i'll call the cops after so what if he came to fight and you end up whooping his ass i'm not a fighter will you still call the police and say he tried to assault me let's say you wanted to fight i mean at that point i might just be like all right you know what I'm going to let you hold that L.

1:27:17But the door is definitely open. I think you would call the police just to protect yourself from a lawsuit. Oh, that is a really good point. Thank you. Yes, that is a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. That is kind of like rule. Like goal number one for me, avoid lawsuits. Yeah. Don't do. That's why I was at this big like underground rapper basketball game on Sunday. Tons of people there. Very few street dudes, mostly like, you know, underground purple hair kids, whatever. but somebody said to me like are you kind of bummed like you wish you would put on this event like hell no all i see is lawsuit after law kid breaks his ankle i'm like oh that's a lawsuit that's a fact two dudes getting a fight oh that's a lawsuit yeah i know there's one thing i can respect about gilbert arenas and i know gilbert gilbert when he got out he went on his instagram and said, all y 'all in trouble, I'm telling on everybody.

1:28:16We should normalize that, yeah. No, that is normalized for civilians. Gilbert seemed like he actually did not really have any clue what was going on in his house in terms of this illegal gambling operation. The paperwork we read, people knew. He's full of shit, okay. Everybody knew what the hell was going on. When you get to demanding where my money at, you know what the hell's going on. Okay. See, here goes the bad part when it comes to civilians doing illegal activity. Everybody is telling everybody. So it comes down to who's going to tell first. No, that's a fact. Hey, I'm going to be the first one.

1:29:06I'm going to race you to that phone. So that means they got to come with the shiceys on. And they got to change up their walk since they're identifying people by their walk. Don't limp allowed, yeah. Don't people that don't limp start limping. Yeah, and he walked with a limp. That way you ain't got to worry about it. That's a fact. They identified this dude in a murder by a limp. Facts. how do you feel so basically like you know that's crazy you don't know about that one so Christian Rock said that she was just dating Hood Trophy Bino for PR like maybe she was getting paid to pretend to be dating him well shit how much it cost to suck on toes wait they were doing that yeah that's some serious PR No, she sucked on his toes That ain't shit Yeah, that's what they're supposed to do I haven't actually heard this So let's listen to what Bino had to say Poor woman, poor hygiene Poor bitch Bitch that had the same wig and She left me, bad homies Somebody said she said you out her league Way out her league That's not even in my league I'm on a court That bitch On a blacktop, bad homies And it's still on concrete.

1:30:34I found the bitch in the car sleeping, said. Yeah, that's you.

1:30:43It was really wrong with Junior. She needs to go get him some proper therapy and be a mom. Let's leave the kid out of this. Do you think this kind of thing happens quite often? And how much does it cost? Because, like, if I were single, I feel like maybe a fake relationship with Chris Sean Rock, I could see how that would be worth it. No, I don't. Bro, I've seen people, like, go out with people to attend events. But when you're on an everyday and you're sucking toes, you're throwing up gang signs, and you're involving the children. You get what I'm saying? To be around and laying in beds and all this type of stuff?

1:31:32No, I think what happens is once you realize it's not going your way and you try to make your move and you put it out there and you meet a dude like Hood Trophy Bino who didn't care, you know, he called me several times. What's he saying? You know, right before he did this, I was about to do some business with him. I was right here in no jumper. You know what I'm saying? Birdman said, let's find a few artists. I was going to present him, and then I woke up the next morning, and that was that, and I texted him like, bro, I don't know why you did that. I can't do no business with you. Just the Krishan thing?

1:32:15Yeah, I pulled back because I can't do no business with you. You know what I'm saying? like I'm team blue face all day long. So I didn't understand what he was doing. So Drake should do a song with NBA young boy, but you can't work with an artist that has had sex with blue faces, ex-girlfriend. It's not about these two things. It's not about has had sex. It's about doing a song with somebody's doing a song. What would one got to do with another? Right. You know, at the end of the day, it's a relationship. It's the music version of having sex. No, No, there's no way I can bring a new dude to a label that Blueface has something to do with and walk him through the door behind me knowing there's some disrespect going on.

1:33:02See, here it goes. But did he disrespect Blueface? Or did he just bang his ass? He knows what my relationship is with Blueface. Right? So at that point in time, Christiane's free to do whatever she wants. That's her business. but I'm not going to let nephew look up on the penitentiary and see me parading around and enhancing the dude that's got that going on. Now does Hood Trophy Bino have any type of loyalty or any type of comradeship towards Blueface? Absolutely not. The opposite because he's clicked up with Soulja Boy who has issues with Blueface. We don't care about that. That ain't nothing anyway.

1:33:46they don't know each other. So Blueface can't even look at Hood Trophy Bino like he did something to him. But I have a direct tie to Blueface. You get what I'm saying? So at that point in time, I'm gonna make my decision. You know what I was thinking about last night? I got a little lost in a daydream just thinking about the fact that Vlad interviewed Soldier Boy back in the day. Remember? The most viral interview ever? And then soldier boy gets locked up so he interviews the dudes who were involved in that home invasion with soldier boy permanently up his relationship with soldier boy he has not interviewed soldier boy since because soldier boy was so pissed off at the fact that he interviewed those dudes now on a purely logical level he didn't do anything wrong because vlad realistically is not buddy, buddy with soldier boy.

1:34:41You just did an interview. These other guys were involved in this situation. You know, their, their perspective is fair. They deserve to be heard if they want to talk about what happened and everything like that. So you have a situation where it's not wrong to interview the guys that broke into his house, but the longterm strategy that might be the most beneficial or profitable might just be to keep the relationship cool. So it would, because, And I think Vlad, even though I haven't heard him say this, I think he might know that because I highly, I'm sure that there's people that have beef with Boosie, that Vlad has had the opportunity to interview, and he has not done it because his relationship with Boosie and the fact that they do numbers together is more important to him than just doing an interview that logically is acceptable.

1:35:29Yeah, well, in this situation, it's simple. And it was weird because, you know, Hood Trump, he'll hear blood. He's from the low bottoms or something. And Blueface is a crip. But, you know, at the end of the day, like I told him, he's like, yo, what's up with the deal? Can't do it. You chose to do what you did, and that's it. And that's cool. I ain't got no grime about it, but I'm going to stand with Blueface. Blueface never told me don't do no business. That's just a decision I made, like Vlad made his decision. You know what I'm saying? And he saw what the results was. Yeah, and sometimes you don't even know that that is the reason why other things don't happen after the fact.

1:36:04Like for instance, EBK J Bo, me and him are real cool. He's even hit me up talking about he wanted me to be there when he got out of jail, all this stuff. And then I did interview basically his top op from Stockton bands and never, never really heard from J Bo too much after that, which I did get a dope interview with an up and coming around from Stockton who now also is facing murder charges and might not see him for many decades. But I could have protected the J-Bo relationship. But instead, I kind of like chose the. Now, the dude come on here and disrespect J-Bo? Hell yeah. Yeah, well, there it go.

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1:38:17We ain't finishing though. This ain't gonna happen. But we're talking about like floods and crypts of Stockton. I'm talking about brotherhood period. Murderous gang beef. You don't allow that shit to happen. And I'm over here. I'm a white boy who's got no dog in the fight and I'm gonna say hey, don't you dare say that about my homie who compared to you I know almost nothing about besides what they put in the music. What I'm saying is if you had that type of relationship with him then you got it. If you don't, then you don't. It's just that simple. I've ran music rooms on Clubhouse, right? Well, one of my homeboys came on.

1:38:58I tell him no diss in the music. Actually, he's from G. Wayne neighborhood. And the song came on, and it was disrespectful stuff towards the Crips. I got Crip partners. I eliminated him from the contest. and kicked his little ass out to rule. Right? Because at some point, everybody's listening. So I can understand you interviewing his op. You know, he got a thing going on. But if he get to getting up here, he talking about his mama and talking about his fucking dead homies. And he looking at you like, well, damn, Adam, I thought we was cool. But what people got to know about you, Adam, it's the content over anything with you.

1:39:38You don't care. COE. Content over everything. Yeah. You can give a damn, and I keep telling you. Bands on if EBK J-Bo is really a fly exterminator, because his head is the fly boys. So which one is the dude on the right? Yeah, in this screenshot, Bands is the guy on the right, and J-Bo's on the left. 337K views, not bad. Yeah, so, and I get, listen, I get your position, right? Over this last six months to a year, I've understood that Adam is for the content if you come in the building you just in the building now when you get mad you do bullshit you will sacrifice a person's livelihood I've seen that too I don't think you're thinking about it you're talking about how I destroyed King Peele's career when you did that shit with King Peele and Anne Hefe that was unintentional but it don't matter that could have went somewhere crazy.

1:40:44And see that? You know what that is? You don't care. Freedom of information. No, no. If you make a song and you diss the trays and then you're on the podcast with us, I'm going to bring that shit up and I'm going to ask you why you took it out. He didn't even just diss the trays. He dissed the trays and then took it out the song. Yeah, but you only brought it up. I want to know. You only brought it up because he says something you didn't like. He says shit is boring. Yeah. So I said, here, I'll spice it up for you. Okay, so let's say Pio. Let's say that, right? We can definitely say that. What about Anhefe?

1:41:16That's my boy. But why put him in a situation to where he might have to go around and do something drastic because you mad at the clown? Because I know Anhefe is a real one, and so I know that if I point out that a clown who's sitting with us dissed his neighborhood and then took it out the song, I mean, that's not me putting An Jefe in the trick bag. Definitely is. I'm setting An Jefe up to look good. No, you set him up to put him in the trick bag. Did I set Fat Pill up? Now, what An Jefe didn't do is allow you to set him up. Oh, no. But in that situation. He sunned him. No. In that situation.

1:41:55An Jefe told him what he was rapping about. Kim Bill said, I wasn't rapping about y 'all neighborhood. An Jefe said, I know you wasn't. No. But Anhefe understands how the world going to see it. You weaponized Anhefe against Dude. You should have just dealt with Dude. I did. You should have came up with something that was isolated with you and him. Why? Why throw Anhefe in the trip back? I pointed out that his game banging is flaw. No, what you try. See, and I hate to say this. You know it's true. Your ass ain't going to learn. I told you I never fucked in the first place. Like, you ain't going to get the argument out of me with that.

1:42:37But you're not going to learn until you witness what that can really bring. That dude was some A-Trey gangster. He's a Trey for real. It's a guy who was doing 500 years collectively behind that word. and him being a reputable because what he was supposed to do by the rules was get off. We were podcasting. I don't think it was like that. If you sit a dude right here and you say, what about whoop to whoop? You said you dis-power rule. There you go. I'm getting off on him. That's a fact. and we just might whoop your ass out because we know it's over with anyway. You're just going to pod. No, it ain't going to happen.

1:43:31You're just pod. Listen, see, you got to see, you been getting away with it. I'm telling you, and you my brother, and I hope to God, I swear to God, that you don't never have to experience the evil that the streets do. And, Hefe, listen, man, the dude you meeting is a podcaster. It's another dude there that he constantly got to tell himself, I'm here to pot. I'm here to pot. And all it takes is for him to slip in that rotation and he go to who he was to survive in the street, the penitentiary, and you got some gangbangers. Think of me like an aspiring referee. I see people catching fouls. Now, I might not know every rule, but I know you just ran through that paint to do that layup and you didn't dribble the ball.

1:44:20Have you ever – I'm going to call it as I see it. Have you ever Googled referees that got hit in the ring? No. That happens sometimes? Well, guess what? You're getting a TKO. You're out of there. Listen. What's it called? A technical foul. You know some bullshit. You know you're on some bullshit. Why are you bringing up old shit? It's not old. It's you. But listen, listen. Adam, this is what's crazy. I know that's you. What? It's content over everything. Three months ago. It was ancient history. No, listen. You just did it last week to your boy. Oh, come on, bro. Like, like you don't care. I care.

1:45:00No, you don't. You only care. I just want everybody to be transparent. You only care when it directly affects you. Then you care. No, I just want everybody to keep it real. Okay. So you diss a hood in your song and then you take it out the song. I'm going to ask you about it. Okay. So if he wouldn't have said that weird comment about how boring it is, would you have ever brought it up? We might have had better shit to talk about, so we might have been able to duck it. He told me he was bored. Let's heat it up. You are a vindictive. Go on to the show. Heat it up. Yo, and like, sitting back watching you work is funny as hell because your facial expressions tell every day.

1:45:44Like, I know when I'm sitting here, when I just said something to agitate you, I know when you like it's all this shit it just like does this you do some real cowboy Billy Bob shit them blue eyes they get real cold and we know Adam about to do some bullshit you are pointing out the fact that I brought that up but what you're avoiding is the fact that as soon as it even started to seem tense as soon as you could tell that Anjefe was turning the heat up, what I say, all right, all right, we can move on to the next topic. Yeah, but see, that's the thing. You ain't going to always be able to control it.

1:46:23They let you control it. When it go, bro, listen, let me tell you something. And half they got homies be with him. When he moved, they going to move. Ain't nothing. Your voice, all you can do is go in the corner. I think what's important that you're kind of distracted from is that King Pills a bitch. And I got him out the paint. But he had homies here too. And they were cool, actually. No, he had homies here too. Clearly we're not down with the bullshit that he was doing. Huh? They weren't down with the bullshit he was doing. Keep in mind, he was trying to bite me. They grabbed him and dragged him out of here.

1:46:55Yeah, somebody had a head on their shoulder. Yeah. You let him mush you all in the face. I was like, that shit was crazy, bro. The tape is out there. My face was not touching. You let him mush you in the face, bro. That was an absolute lie. Put left nail marks in your neck. Your tattoos had to heal up and shit. That shit is crazy. You got it re-hit. Same way those woods do up in that parking lot. I've seen the whole tape. Yo, why is that dude shining so much? What the? Look at the Brandon dude. Bro, he looks like a... Remember the beef jerky? The swim sticks? Bro, why? You think he oiled up before he came on?

1:47:32Nigga, what is that? It's like he just... What the? That is crazy. Come on, bro. And the shoes make it way worse. Oh, my God. and then you got like P nice next to him you know I hate the fact that in this room it looks like your leg is always touching the other guy's leg which in this case it might actually but I'm saying like you know it's just it makes you look hella gay or Tam they're like oh Adam's rubbing his leg against her I absolutely did not ever touch my leg on her leg Tam but it looks like because of the camera angle and because we're sitting close it does look like I'm man spreading my leg all over which I was not.

1:48:13I did see you put your arm around her. No, I might have gone like this around the back of the couch. Yeah, I seen that. I'm not rubbing her hair. No, you lean forward. I seen you. They edited it out. I seen the edits. There's no edits live. All the edits that they cut out, I seen it. I was looking at it. I seen you kind of like lean in a little bit. It's live, you jive turkey. Anyway, T. Grizzly, you got some explaining to do. That's a fact. Al Sharpton, I don't know. Bro. He might have to miss a few bars. Was it Al? No, the other snake. Who? Jesse. Is it Jesse Jackson? You don't remember what Jesse did to Obama?

1:48:46He was telling? You don't remember what he did to Obama? What? When Obama was out there, he forgot the microphone was on. And he was like, we're going to see something about what this sellout boot-licking nigga or something got to say. And it was on. Oh, shit. I don't remember. Now, they say Jesse Jackson has something to do with lining up Martin Luther King. I don't put it past him. I don't put it past none of them dudes. You know what I'm saying? But Al Sharpton, I don't know, man. It might be some of the mafia dudes still lingering around. Well, the mafia dudes are the ones who are cheating in these poker games, apparently.

1:49:22Oh, that's mafia? That's what the police report said. What type of mafia? Italian mafia? It just said mafia. I'm assuming Italian mafia, but I don't know. They didn't do the way. I don't know, bro. I mean, did they say 2019? I don't know. How about Munchie B letting Alex Alonzo just mark him out and talk about and discuss things up there with him that he knew he shouldn't be talking about and discussing? I didn't see this. What? Bro, crazy. You know what? Watch this. You asked me what was going on, and I said nothing. You knew I was bothered. Remember a couple weeks ago? Oh, the pirate. You're like, whatever call you just got, I can tell.

1:50:04I'm like, yeah, let's just keep moving. You told me you said a bunch of Piru's got. Yeah, but I wasn't going into it on the podcast. Right, right, right. Right? I said, yeah, they just did a. They don't talk about it, though. But I watched him go on this. And I don't think Munchie B wanted to talk about it. I don't think he wanted to talk about it. But Alex is up there. I think he's so thirsty for content. He ain't got nothing else to talk about because Munchie B. Well, you know, let me take it back. Munchie B was shunning him, but he should have told him, hey, bro, we ain't hollering about that.

1:50:33Period. Because dude is flashing pictures. He mentioned the names. The homie wanted to name. He called me like, well, I said, bro, you can't see, but you can damn show here. I don't know what's wrong with him. Oh, no. Shout out to the mayor. Appreciate you exposed. Okay. They've been exposing. Everybody getting exposed. Shout out to WAC. Shout out to me. Like, comment, and subscribe. Hopefully you guys enjoy your Sunday, your Monday, your Tuesday, whenever you end up watching this. do us a favor like comment subscribe become a member of the whack pack for only$10 a month you can see these episodes early personally you know I was thinking about something what do you think we take every episode we cut it in half non-members can watch the first half if you want to watch the second half you have to be a member it don't matter whatever you want to do you know I'm rolling your way pause okay shout out to everybody who watched this Adam and Whack and we out