The Adam & Wack Show Ep #117 w/ Kevin McCall

3 Nov 2025 · 1 h 49 min · 52 chapters

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In short

Kevin McCall’s career and business dealings, especially his relationship with Chris Brown; plus personal controversies, conflicts, and money/royalty disputes. The show also includes long banter about EBT, identity, and a viral “slap” incident involving Ray J’s circle.

Guest backgrounds

Kevin McCall is a Los Angeles-area R&B/producer/writer who played football at Washington State, claims Pamunkey Native American heritage, and says he met Chris Brown via Jerry Rice’s daughter (Quee Rice). He previously collaborated with Bruno Mars/Philip Lawrence at Atlantic Records and later worked with Chris Brown on songs including “In My Zone,” “In My Zone 2,” “Boy in Detention,” and “Fame and Fortune.” Co-hosts Adam and Wack discuss music-industry contracts and royalties.

Key claims

  • McCall says he was on EBT and rejected a proposed $12,000 deal for 20 songs, then worked with Chris Brown after “In My Zone.”
  • He claims Chris Brown signed him for $25,000 up front (for four songs) and that he didn’t understand royalty/points structures.
  • He says he was billed for studio sessions (e.g., a $20,000 bill) and later went “100%” (write/produce/record himself).
  • He describes a fallout with Chris Brown as communication stopping amid internal issues and misunderstandings.
  • He alleges a dispute over compensation/contract sign-offs (including a rumored additional $150,000) and says he only received $25,000 out of the deal.

Notable examples

  • He references Chris Brown’s “Deuces” success and his own charting contributions.
  • He recounts a Ray J House live incident where a woman allegedly slapped someone, followed by police/paramedics.
  • He discusses a separate “Young Buck”/pastor-style “lay hands” story and a long-running co-parenting dispute, including a claimed 10-year gap in seeing his child.

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Behind the Scenes with Lush

0:43 to 2:53

A discussion about Lush's songwriting and other personalities in the industry.

“All I said is that there was a vlog that was supposed to come out of him talking about me.”

Kevin's Transformation and Public Perception

2:54 to 5:35

Kevin McCall's journey from a difficult public image to personal renewal.

“I wasn't getting crackhead energy from that interview.”

Family Matters and Relationships

5:36 to 8:41

Exploring personal family struggles and their effects on Kevin's life.

“Slick's a full-blown Mexican, but he went and changed his birth certificate to black.”

Kevin's Career Path and Collaborations

8:42 to 14:01

Kevin McCall shares his career story, collaborations, and experiences in the music industry.

“unless you go out of your way to stop yourself.”

Understanding Royalty Rates in Music

14:01 to 14:18

Learn about the complexities of music contracts and royalty rates.

“I mean, you didn't even think about getting a lawyer to review this at the time?”

Understanding Royalty Rates in Music

14:21 to 14:39

Learn about the complexities of music contracts and royalty rates.

“It can help you with practically anything on the web.”

Navigating the Music Industry

14:39 to 16:41

Explore the challenges and strategies in the music business.

“Compatibility and availability varies 18+.”

The Dynamics of Artist Relationships

16:42 to 19:16

Understand the importance of positive relationships in the music industry.

“I uh I actually had a conversation with Mike Karen back in the day where we were talking about signing artists.”

Breaking Down Music Publishing

19:17 to 21:49

Learn how music publishing works and its impact on earnings.

“But 100 %er is a dude that make the beat, write it, record itself, everything.”

The Fallout with Chris Brown

21:50 to 23:39

Discuss the reasons behind the fallout between Kevin McCall and Chris Brown.

“Interpolates, what happened to my publishing?”
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Lessons from Fame and Relationships

23:40 to 28:00

Gain insights on how fame affects relationships and business dynamics.

“And I never signed off on my percentages.”

DJ Khaled's Disconnection and Interactions

28:00 to 29:41

Exploring the complexities of networking and interactions in the celebrity world.

“He's just got so many different things to pay attention to.”

Kevin McCall on Provocation and Responses

29:41 to 31:00

Kevin discusses his approach to provocation and how it affected his relationships.

“So at the end of the day, everybody know Chris ain't a buster.”

Chris Brown's Animosity and Social Dynamics

31:00 to 33:08

Examining Chris Brown's response to Kevin and the underlying social tensions.

“Chris got so much shit going on overseas and shit like that.”

Conversations About Young Buck and Personal Struggles

33:08 to 34:49

Discussing past interactions with Young Buck and reflections on personal challenges.

“I know that's how you go viral when you say that.”

Homelessness and Career Struggles

34:49 to 36:36

Kevin shares his experiences with homelessness and the challenges in the music industry.

“Let me lay hands on you in prayer to say wherever two or more gather, there is heat in the midst.”

Navigating Relationships and Co-Parenting

36:36 to 37:58

A candid discussion about Kevin's relationship with his child's mother and co-parenting.

“And you're telling me Peanut never gave you no money.”

Reflections on Fatherhood and Responsibilities

37:58 to 39:49

Kevin reflects on fatherhood, responsibilities, and the emotional weight of separation.

“But what that got to do with you co-parent?”

Gospel Music and Creative Expression

39:49 to 42:00

Discussing Kevin's creative expression through music and recent projects.

“And she's a stud, so you know she ain't lying.”

Music and Personal Struggles

42:00 to 43:00

The speakers discuss recent music releases and personal challenges.

“Y 'all trying to bring Cry Reese out, huh?”

Controversies and Misunderstandings

43:00 to 44:10

The conversation shifts to past comments and controversies in the media.

“Because I'm looking at you and I'm listening to you, right?”

Social Media and Algorithms

44:10 to 45:50

They analyze the impact of social media algorithms on visibility and engagement.

“Nobody ever f***ed y 'all over like that, huh?”

Music Industry Experiences

45:50 to 47:10

Discussion about experiences in the music industry and working with other artists.

“Everybody was acting like I was begging for$25 ,000.”

Reconciliation and Relationships

47:10 to 48:40

The participants explore the idea of reconciliation in personal and professional relationships.

“Has anybody offered you the opportunity to go in and work in a real situation?”

Emotions in Music and Masculinity

48:40 to 50:20

The conversation highlights the emotional aspects of music and societal expectations of masculinity.

“So I would say you probably knew him more than him.”

Crying in Public and Vulnerability

50:20 to 52:20

They discuss the perception of crying in public and how it relates to vulnerability.

“I'm a rap R &B nigga, so that's why I'm a hybrid.”

Life at 40 and EBT Discussions

52:20 to 54:00

Reflections on aging, life challenges, and the implications of receiving EBT.

“I could make you a jingle for your show.”

Hustling and Work Ethics

54:00 to 55:50

The group discusses hustling, work ethics, and their approaches to making money.

“Smack and T-Roll both admitted that they were on it.”

Legacy and Recognition

55:50 to 56:01

Concluding thoughts on personal legacy, recognition, and self-worth in the industry.

“Y 'all could make me feel like I'm nothing here, but I know.”

The Seven-Year Slave Clause Explained

56:01 to 58:09

Learn about the restrictive nature of long-term contracts in the music industry.

“Okay, if I was on EBT, I would probably do that.”

Navigating Contracts and Placements

58:10 to 1:00:17

Discover the challenges artists face with contracts and placements in the music industry.

“from a California law that limits personal service contracts to a maximum of seven years.”

Defining Talent and Success

1:00:18 to 1:03:04

Explore the concept of talent in the context of hard work and personal experience.

“He negotiated and he's going to get 50 % of that.”

Life After Prison and Career Challenges

1:03:05 to 1:05:58

Discuss the transition from prison to pursuing a music career and the hurdles faced.

“Your talent is taking people like me and helping us.”

Collaborating with Justina Valentine

1:05:59 to 1:10:01

Learn about the potential collaboration with TikTok artist Justina Valentine and the music industry's dynamics.

“I like how she spit on let me say that a different way.”

Upcoming Collaborations and Commitments

1:10:01 to 1:11:15

Discussion about future collaborations and commitments in the entertainment industry.

“That's who runs incredible entertainment.”

Ray J and the Music Industry

1:11:16 to 1:13:08

Conversation about Ray J's influence and challenges within the music industry.

“I said Ray J is the Carson connection since I – See, a lot of people will sit here and they're drilling like we drilling him.”

Blindness and Perception in the Industry

1:13:09 to 1:14:35

A humorous dialogue about perceptions of a blind artist and their talents.

“And I didn't know Munchie B was going to be able to see me over there at night.”

Contracts and Artist Rights

1:14:36 to 1:16:06

Discussion on the intricacies of artist contracts and the importance of understanding them.

“Okay you sign him and then he'll sign Munchy B.”

Malcolm X and Professionalism

1:16:07 to 1:18:54

A conversation about professionalism in the industry using Malcolm X's principles.

“This was back in the day, and also it was a lie.”

Song Releases and Management

1:18:55 to 1:20:57

Talk about the challenges of managing music releases and artist support.

“I had some other personal things going on where I was in a battle with Don Julio.”

Community and Growing Up

1:20:58 to 1:24:00

Reflecting on upbringing in the community and the impact of local environment.

“You don't have the headphones on, but I'm listening to you.”

Growing Up in Ujima Village

1:24:00 to 1:24:49

The hosts discuss their childhood experiences and the history of Ujima Village.

“Yeah, shout out to my cousin who raised me.”

Reflecting on Community Loss

1:24:50 to 1:25:12

Conversations about the demolition of Ujima Village and its impact on the community.

“I used to fight every day in the prison cell.”

Street Culture and Rivalries

1:25:13 to 1:27:24

Discussion on street culture, personal anecdotes, and relationships within the community.

“Why Tyrese can say your pockets ain't empty, cuz, on the movie, but I can't say it just because of how we talk.”

Tyrese's Influence and Relationships

1:27:25 to 1:28:55

The hosts share stories about Tyrese and personal relationships, including humorous anecdotes.

“Tyrese gave my baby mama$50 ,000 to be in this video.”

Role Play and Personal Dynamics

1:28:56 to 1:31:05

The hosts delve into personal role-playing dynamics and humor in relationships.

“So she got paid 50 twice while she was pregnant?”

Conversations About Dating and Preferences

1:31:06 to 1:33:16

A lighthearted discussion about dating preferences and humorous interactions with women.

“I'm going to touch the story real quick.”

Childhood Stories and Future Aspirations

1:33:17 to 1:35:47

The hosts share stories about their children and aspirations for their future.

“I wish he played the one we did today, but, you know.”

Discussing Personal Lives and Kids

1:38:00 to 1:39:25

The hosts share stories about their children and personal experiences.

“But you need to step your game up with your kid, though, bro.”

Linking Up with Industry Contacts

1:39:25 to 1:40:40

The conversation shifts to networking and potential collaborations in the music industry.

“I'm about to leave here and go to Nick now.”

Entrepreneurial Ventures and Business

1:40:40 to 1:42:36

One of the hosts talks about various business ventures and opportunities they are involved in.

“at 11 at night, I don't know what to say.”

Upcoming Events and Projects

1:42:36 to 1:43:32

The hosts discuss upcoming events and projects, sharing their excitement and details.

“My two main weapons is you now and Eastside K-Boy.”
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0:33A steal by Henri, who pulls his own collectible cup. Collect one of nine legendary cups with a FIFA World Cup meal. At participating McDonald's for a limited time. While supplies last, all rights reserved. 2026 McDonald's at FIFA World Cup 2026. There's a song Lush wrote. Blow your mind into a million pieces. One of the biggest records ever. He did it? He was in the studio. What is this? I hear you doing a four extra disc. Whoa. I don't know why they're saying that. All I said is that there was a vlog that was supposed to come out of him talking about me. Or just him. You want some bullshit. And I said if he does that, then I got a track in the tuck.

1:09I saw you play the other day. I made the beat. Sporty Face up here. I said, this dude right here, right here. You diabolical. But Sporty Face said he didn't want to talk about Forextra if we were going to do that. Hell no. He don't want to talk about him. I didn't bring him up. I asked him if X-Force still needs a putoff though. So, what did he say? He tried to take the high road. Yeah, he didn't want to talk about it. So this is what happened, right? Is that we saw you, with no disrespect, we understand why you was over there, because you voluntarily told the world you got an EBT card. So we figured since we saw you in the welfare office over there at...

1:47Welcome to the Ritz. What's the name of that welfare office? I forget. What is it called? Smacks House of Horrors. Whatever it was, right? You was in the welfare office. We figured we bring you to the Office of Employment. You get what I'm saying? A lot of careers here. Now, a guy that he knows called me, and I kept it real with him, right? And he was like, yo, man, we need you to work with Kevin. I said, bro, I just saw him back on Fig, bro. Dude looked like he cracked out. He don't look like he ready. He didn't let himself go. That's what I'd say, right? Two days later, I go to Ray J House. I walk in, I see him.

2:29I'm looking at him. I said, bro, and I can't be real. I said, I'd be a bitch if I didn't tell you. Your man just called me and I told him, I can't do nothing with you. The dude looks horrible. But looking at you in person, he looked refreshing, brand new. He said, whack, I didn't shave or nothing that day. I just went in. So I'm like, you know, you got some life in you and some few things that we can do. So when you hit me and told me, hey, can we get Kevin? I said, I just left him. Literally now. I wasn't getting crackhead energy from that interview. No. It wasn't that erratic. Maybe it was. See, when I saw you at Ray J spot, you look like you just left Burke Williams, nigga, with a facial.

3:15You like you had just got trimmed up. You was glowing. Oh, when I was at Ray J? When I was at Ray J? I told you that. Shout out to Ron, my barber and guardian. Right? So, but you had a, now we has a lot of activity over there. A lot. Right? You got slapped. You was up to shenanigans. No, I had nothing to do with that. Started it. A chick slapped the shit out of him. Where? Pow. At Ray J House on live. Oh, the other day? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, this clip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So then that one right there. Yeah. Over there with the big red lips. Who you just claimed wants to be on Plug Talk. Definitely.

3:50She didn't commence to slapping the shit out the chick. Oh, okay. Next thing I know, paramedics and the police show up. We in a gated community. Karen. Wow. I told her, good thing y 'all left, but this is what I'm tripping off of. Who did you fight with after the fact? Because I saw you on IG, bloody knuckles, scars on your face. Who was you fighting after that? Because you didn't fight at the house. you had on the same clothes he had on the same clothes when I was in the pen for three years I done had no fights who'd you fight when you left Ray J house I'ma get to it my grandmother right she's blind and deaf and we all kind of take turns taking care of her so let's just say you know long story short I didn't like how things was handled and I spoke on it at home so it was internal It was an internal, you know, family thing.

4:48Because I thought you was fighting past you. He whipped my ass a little bit. Yeah, I see you had a fuse card. He was scratching you a little bit. I did my thing. He choked me out. I woke up, and then I beat him. Oh, he knocked you out? He choked me out like this in front of my granny. We're talking about Ray J now, or is this someone else? No, listen, bro. You want Ray J to choke you out? I said I was going to be nice to Adam, my bad. Yeah, you ain't got to be nice to Adam, bro. Hold on. Nice guy, Kevin, my bad. Don't get the 22s to fucked up, bro. I know, but I'm not. Adam and Wax Show, bro. I can go with him.

5:18Adam, do we think you a punk? I don't think you a punk. I was locked up. Man, I played football at Washington State. It was all woods. They taught me how to hunt. They taught me how to shoot my first little rifles. Gotcha. Don't I run black, though? Oh, yeah. He's a Negro. You told me I should probably do that. You know, that's about a few reasons. You should go change your birth certificate to black. No. What? I'm not that deep. My homeboy Slick did from Campanella. I converted. Slick's a full-blown Mexican, but he went and changed his birth certificate to black. That's a little too much. I'll call him right now, and he will tell you on paru he black.

5:54And the nigga look like something from goddamn make a run from the border. Do you remember the dude who was on Vlad with the melanin injections? No, I don't remember. He didn't change the birth certificate. You don't know who I'm talking about? I will call him right now. I promise you. My old boy Slick from Caponella, bro. I was locked up with a Mexican dude for Nellas. He was Muslim, too. He full-blown. He went and changed his birth certificate until it says black. Look at this guy. No, that's a black man. Oh, shit. No, he ain't. That shit ain't working. He look like he got some bad makeup on.

6:36He look like the dude from G's to Gents. You remember him? Riff Raff. That's Riff Raff. Oh, yeah. Riff Raff. Even Ripper, I've never did that. Anyway, so Wack, it felt like you had a direction. You were taking this at a certain point there. Do you want to? No, I was wondering because, bro, you got to remember, I'm sitting there, me and R &B chilling. Next thing I know, we hear smack. You see the chick slapping live on Twitch. He go to the backyard. She goes over there, slaps the chick up, pull her wig halfway off. The chick runs out to the front yard. When the coast is clear, goes to the backyard and says, Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

7:12I swear to God. She started whipping her ass some more, and then the paramedics showed up on some crazy shit. And then I looked up when I got home, and he's showing bloody knuckles, same clothes, scratched up. So I'm wondering, nigga, who was you fighting? Because he got kind of sentimental at the house when he got slapped. And this is like right after that viral interview? No, then. The same day? The same moment. I'm surprised the slap ain't on Twitch. Everybody thought it was a skit. Bro, it got to be on Twitch. She slapped him when he was on the fucking camera. Wow, I didn't know about that.

7:49Yeah, that's a fact. The next thing I know. He slapped me in at eight years old. Bro, slapped the shit out of me. So next thing I know, two days later, I get a call. She's in jail. So now I'm thinking, damn, is she in jail for whooping this girl's ass? Like, I swear to God. You texted me, all this happened in the last 48. Right. And so I was like, when I saw him on Instagram showing his knuckle, he was bloody in the same clothes. I'm like, well, who did he fight? Because he just left us. So I didn't know if he stopped at the gas station. I'm a lover, not a fighter, really. It just was some, you know, every time I get to this point in my career where it's about to take off.

8:25That's what we should talk about. A lot of my family. His career. A lot of my family starts. And I know you've done some research on his career. Okay, you see how you just gave this long ass question and then he answered it for like three seconds. And then you talked over him and changed the topic. That is going to make it so that this entire interview is you talking, which is usually what happens. I just want to call out what's going to happen here unless you go out of your way to stop yourself. Listen, white dude. I'm just being a real game. I want you to talk about his career. Everybody in the comments knows what I'm saying is true.

8:53Because listen, I don't know too much about his career. You do. I'm going to say that. So you the good cop, he the bad cop. I'm here to help his career. I'm just trying to get him to chill the fuck out so that we can actually hear from you. No, turn up, white. That's why. But, bro, listen. Bro, you got to pull it out of him. He's not going to just pause. Ain't no pause, bro. We talking about information. Y 'all some gay shit. Pulling it out of the homie is gay. No, it's not. Yes, it is. That's Dame Dash. Leaving it in. I'm not from New York, nigga. I'm from Cali. I mean what I say, and I say what I mean.

9:25So I don't know too much about his career. I'm here to help his career from here on up. But wait, so you're actually from Virginia, or are you linked with Chris Brown at what point? And was that your entry? I'm from Virginia. Yeah. Because I think it got mentioned in that interview. I'm Pamunkey Indian. What? India? I'm Pamunkey Indian. But you're a Pamunkey Indian? A Pamunkey Indian? Oh, that's like a type of Native American. Got it. Okay. No, I'm from L.A. I'm from Watts. Oh, and so at what point do you link with Chris Brown in this whole saga? And where was your career at prior to linking with him?

9:56Oh, shit. I went to Washington State. My coach ended up being a lineman coach at Oakland Raiders. So I was going to have a tryout over there, but I met Chris from working with Jerry Rice's daughter. Her name was Quee Rice. So in that session, Chris Brown ended up pulling up. Okay. And I ended up meeting him there, but I didn't really rock with him that day. But he met me. And then my frat brother, Gerard Is Ratty, went Vinnie Crump dancing. So Jerry Rice's daughter is in the music? She was. But now she owns this million-dollar company, like$40 million company called Goat Fuel. her and her husband.

10:33But anyway, I met CB that day. Rihanna as well. They were still booed up? This was before shit got crazy? December of whatever year that was. I feel like it was 2009. And you're from where in Watts? I'm really from the east side. My cousins is from all the projects in Watts. That's why I claim Watts. But I'm really from 97th Street and Avalon. And I grew up in Gardena as well. My parents moved me there through during high school when I went to Carson High. So that's why I'm kind of like a white boy like you, too. Okay. Yeah. You don't know about that, right? In Carson, you could just be kind of like a white boy?

11:13Well, what I mean by that is white boy shit like X Games, skiing, fishing, hunting. Just skiing, okay. So you wasn't on the Negro side of Carson? No, I only went to Carson because my dad was the coach there, the running back coach. Got you. Since the 90s. So that's why I went to Carson. My school, where I was supposed to go to his lot, which was Tyrese's high school. That's why I got the connection to Tyrese. That's another reason I claimed Watts. But you had already been writing shit prior to meeting Chris Brown, or was that kind of the beginning of you writing for other people? I started writing at Atlantic Records with a dude named Ben Madahi, and I met Bruno Mars and Phil, what's his name, Philip Lawrence.

11:53They used to be called Phil and Bruno, the Smeasingtons. They ended up writing a lot of shit. So my first session, you know, I always had this little, right before I blew up, I had this little struggle story. So I got dropped off over there, and then I didn't have a ride back. So Bruno and them let me just kick it in the studio with them all night. And then they took me home with the Mars. That's what I said. And Paramount Studios. And I made a tight dollar sign back in those days, and we used to collaborate a lot through Atlantic and Mike Caron. And I was going to sign with Mike Caron and them, and they wanted me to do a 20-song deal for$2 ,000.

12:30What? Wait, come on. I'm not kidding. I ain't going to let you get out on Mike like that. It was 10. He's driving a hard bargain right there. $2 ,000 a song? What is 10? No, not$2 ,000 a song. $2 ,000. $100 a song. All right, I'm capping. Hold on, bro. Yeah, that don't even sound. $12 ,000 for 20 songs. Mike tried to get you like that? What is he going to pay for your living? something for a buy you a car? I said I can't do it and right after that that's when I started working with Chris. Damn, I did the I'm generous. But I love that I always bet on myself like some people might think I overplay my hand sometimes but I'll be knowing what I'm doing because I'll be tapping into God so I was like nah I'm not going to do the 12 ,000.

13:13I wanted it. I was on EBT then. You know I wanted that 12 ,000. 12 ,000 for 20 songs. That was Cap. I was like that's Cappington. I couldn't do it so right after that CB ended up working with me and I did In My Zone. So then I was like... Did you sign the CB? Nah, I didn't sign to him until after we did In My Zone. It was successful, so then I signed to him, publishing deal. And did he take care of you up front? Nah, he signed me for$25 ,000. It was$50 ,000, so he gave me$25 ,000 up front. For how many songs? For four songs. Okay. At 100%, so that's eight songs if you do, like, just write it. or eight songs if you just make the beat.

13:54And how much pub? What you mean by that? You didn't get pub on the songs you wrote? Yeah, you get your pub. I didn't know about the point system. You didn't get no royalty rate? No royalty rate? I don't even know what that is. See, that's crazy. See, that's what I don't do. Yeah. I mean, you didn't even think about getting a lawyer to review this at the time? I did. My lawyer was Joe Sophia, but I remember they was laughing at him. They was like, he bunked. This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, But Gemini and Chrome? That's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web.

14:25Like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block. Or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online make sense? There's no place like Chrome. Check responses set up required. Compatibility and availability varies 18+. He can't fuck with us, basically. And he was like Feli Fels' lawyer, too. So I thought Feli Fels was the shit. Like, I heard him on the radio. The radio, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. I don't do none of that shit, bro. CB was like, that's your lawyer? You know what's crazy? I've done a bunch of contracts for artists when they do work with my artists, and they would ask me, hey, Wack, what's this points?

15:07Royalty Raid. I said, yeah, bro, like, when the songs make your money, I guess people don't, if they don't ask, they don't say nothing. Right. And, you know, it's automatic to me. I'm going to do to you what I want you to do to mine, so I understand it like so the music business is all about ripping off people on the way in because there's so many things to know about and everybody who's in the music industry knows that the people that they're trying to sign don't know about that and like if you're trying to sign a rapper you know that you should tell them hey you should get a good lawyer to review this but your boss is going to fire you if you say that to a new artist that you're trying to sign this is the thing with me I don't give a fuck if you got a lawyer or not They suggested my, what do you call that?

15:48A CPN? What is that? CPA? CPA. They suggested that. So all my shit is fucked up. I don't care if you're not a lawyer or not. I'm going to do your contract in the same way I would want to see my clients done. See, because listen, watch this, Adam. I'll spin off and do something else, right? I get big at something else, right? I'm not going to look back at the business you did with me and be mad at you. so if you reach up hey Wack I'm trying to I'm gonna be like bro let's do it like you don't want to do that to artists because you never know who they gonna become and then now when you wanna do some business with them they understand you ripped them off so that's that's crazy that day because I was trying to figure out why your publishing checks wasn't keeping you sustained because Chris Brown I was a fuck boy and I didn't do good business so that's my bad I uh I actually had a conversation with Mike Karen back in the day where we were talking about signing artists.

16:48And I was basically saying basically kind of like what I just said, which is like, oh, so the goal is to get them in like the worst contract you possibly can on the way in. And Mike Karen's response was basically like I've found throughout the years that it's not really worth it to get artists into a really, truly bullshit contract. because then you waste so much time in legal fees basically renegotiating the contract throughout the course of your time with them. Now, is it possible that that was a PR answer? Yeah, for sure. Now, I could see this. We don't know if you're going to work, so we're going to put you in this deal, and it may be, let's say, a five-album situation, and let's say you pop off.

17:30Come that second album, I'm going to take it upon myself to renegotiate your deal. I see you're growing, you're getting bigger. And let's say it's a 70-30 split my way. I'm going to go myself and be like, look, bro, you're on a 70-30 split. It's working. We're going to go 50-50 because what happens is he's going to stay with you. For sure. If you don't, the minute he can get brought out to that contract or the minute it's over, he's out. So it doesn't pay because the longer he's in it, people are going to teach him things. How many hits did you have for Chris? Man. That went and charted. In My Zone mixtape, I did In My Zone 2 mixtape, Boy in Detention, Fame and Fortune.

18:18Fame, I did like five songs on there and I did like two on Fortune. How long were you actually like with him in the studio on a consistent basis and everything? It was off and on. Like, you know, I spent a lot of time with him, but I spent a lot of time myself. Okay. You know, and one time I got a bill for doing a studio session with this dude named Sam Hook. I know Sam Hook. I don't know who he was writing for, but Sam, me and him wrote together, and then I got the bill. They said, how many days you want to do? I did like two days, three days. Man, my bill was$20 ,000. I didn't know, so then I got a check for like$40 ,000, and then it was like$20 ,000 because they took the shit out the bill.

18:56Who did? Universal. They was the one who hooked up the session. So that's when I found out when they hook up your sessions, they bill you for that month. I was like, okay. Then I got my own studio, and then that's when shit got weird. It's like, okay, he's starting to be, like, really independent. You're not outsourcing. And I'm already a 100 %er. You know what that is? No. You own 100 % of your... You don't mean I'm full black. I am. I'm black and Indian. But 100 %er is a dude that make the beat, write it, record itself, everything. Right. One-stop shop. So when you do that, sometimes it's hard to make money because people are like, I'm going to make money off you.

19:33Yeah, but they don't have nothing to do with that side of it unless they're controlling somebody within that 100 percent. The label, because it's 100 percent of the publishing, right? So whoever produces it, 50 percent is on that side. Whoever writes and performs it is 50 percent on that side. So if you're making a beat, that's your 50 percent. If you wrote it and performed it. Can we break it down technical? So I want to show people I ain't dumb. I know how this shit go, right? And he know, too. He's going to break this down. The pie go 50 for the producer. Bam. Then this pie over here is 100 as well.

20:08But it's 50-50 writers. Are you confusing them? No, it's 100. It's 50%. That's what I mean. But on that 50, it's 100 % of writers. Yeah. So as if it's game featuring somebody, right? If it's a big feature, they'll take that 50 % and cut it 25. Game Gucci, 25-25. The producer gets to get 50? The producer gets 50. That sounds like too much. No, that's just what it is. Because guess what? You got to remember, he's in a production deal. I'm just saying, if I'm the artist, I'm going to try to give this motherfucker less than 50%. No, but here's the thing. Without the beat. There's so much competition in terms of beat makers.

20:47Without the beat, right, it doesn't spark the idea. So they're just as important. And without the idea, the lyrics ain't there complementing the beat. Now, the production guy, he's probably in a pub deal. He's splitting that up unless he's an independent guy like him. So let's say somebody came and said, hey, like Scott, we're going to give you$20 million, but we need 20%. 20 % represents 10 % because it's 20 % up to 50%. Then it gets a little trickier. See how this shit sound crazy? Then it gets a little trickier if you're sampling. So now you didn't sample the beat, and the people say, all right, if you want to use it, we won't charge you nothing, but we take it 30 % of the beat.

21:34So now 30 % of the shit's gone, so now he got 20%. So now the dude that got 20%, he only get 20%. It was 20%, which is 4%. The shit start breaking down. So if it's original beats, he's good. But what happened to your publishing? Interpolates, what happened to my publishing? Did you sell it? Yeah. Okay. For$500 ,000. I was tired of crashing on bitches. I mean, excuse me. I was tired of crashing on women's couches. I probably could have got you$2 million for that same$500 ,000. I already know. I just didn't know you then. I was scared of you back then. For what? What are you scared of me for? You buff and you remind me of my dad.

22:15Pause. Because you know him. You're going to turn that ass in. It's all exciting. I don't be talking. The world don't know. I beat out a motherfuckin' ass in his office about four months ago. You know what? That'd be one hell of a pay-per-view. Me and you? That's a fact. I don't think the people don't trust you to have a fair fight. You're my partner. What would I do? I don't know, but I'm just saying that I feel like the people just wouldn't even watch. They'd be like, wax on bullshit. He ain't doing it. Pop out. That's an option. Wait, where were we before you started talking about yourself?

22:49He'd be mad. He be mad. He mad. He be jealous of my woman and all kind of shit. Yeah, she's cool. Staring at my woman's ass and shit. I already hit. You're a lucky man. I used to be a lucky man when I had Eva. He hit her in his mind every night. Who? His wife. Adam. How did your wife feel about that? That you got to be mentally stimulated by a black woman to service her? Vice versa. I would never disrespect your wife like that. No, that's my own girl. You're 22. That's my partner. Okay. But so, you know, I was thinking like, why is podcasting so simple in comparison? Like imagine if we did a podcast and I was like, oh, we got to pay 20 % of half of the podcast to the company that owns Wax Voice.

23:38It gets deeper than that. You got mechanical royalties. Man, that shit gets deep. I didn't know about units. Yeah, it gets crazy. And I never signed off on my percentages. That's why I don't got credit on Look At Me Now. I didn't sign off on that. What you mean? Well, there's some songs that I signed up for and it was like, here, they'll tell me my percent. I didn't know I'd be like, hey, I made the beat. I get 50%. It's like, look, Kevin, you get 30%. I'm like, okay, shit. And you signed it. 30 % of something, you know what I'm saying? And you signed it. I signed that one, but other songs I never signed shit.

24:09So I want to go back and look if it's some signatures. And if it is. Oh, yeah, I got the right legal for you. Whiskey. Okay, I want to talk about how you guys ended up falling out because you were together for what? You sound like we was a couple dating. Well, I mean, you know, it was a big fallout. A lot of people have gotten a lot of views, not even just in recent times, but, like, even the old Vlad clips that you were talking about, those were a big deal and stuff. I didn't really know about this as it was happening. But so you guys are working for, what, a year, two years, and then it falls apart?

24:37Why does it fall apart? Well, I ain't never had fame before. And then you're dealing with somebody who was a child star. So, you know, you got to look at what they're dealing with. At that time, I never was a star, so I didn't have to deal with a lot of the groovies. You know what I'm saying? I dealt with all of that shit after Chris Brown when I started making my own name for myself. So then when I started trying to hire people and my own people are robbing me, and it's a whole lot of internal stuff that just got weird. And I was like, damn, that's what CB was dealing with. And then I instantly felt like a boy.

25:10That's the only time I say that because it's true. Because I was like, damn, that's what I was doing. I did some of the shit. oh I see what you're saying like that's when you realize where my money at like where you like nigga I didn't get no money yet how I'm gonna pay you like a lot of times niggas don't understand how the things go so you got did you guys develop a friendship or was it always a working relationship I thought it was my friend you know what I'm saying that's how I am like and I still I still admire him you know what I mean but a lot of people tell me like that's my problem a lot of times I'm loyal to shit that like ain't loyal to me you know I don't know, did CB turn on him?

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25:48Did he turn on CB? No, CB didn't turn on me. It's just we stopped communication. So then once that happened, it was a lot of people playing a game of telephone. And I'm inclined to believe none of it was true because when I look back, Chris was my biggest cheerleader. So how would he flip all of a sudden? But I don't want to get into who said it. It just was people. That was very. Was you ever in any of the videos? Like his music videos? Yeah, I was in Deuce, his thread, shit like that. a lot of the mixtape shit.

26:20But it's like I've just been trying to be on some more positive shit because in that time, I didn't think like I do now. I was real angry, but I was more angry at, like, shit that I went through in college. I didn't feel like I really got to get my shine. So I was really trying to one-up everybody in college and all the people I went to school with because, you know, I wanted to be a star football player. So I was like, I didn't go to the NFL, so this shit with CB had to work. and then when it didn't work it was like then what I was gonna do so your your main mistakes that you made were basically being too pushy and I mean a lot of people in the music business kind of learn the the lesson at a certain point they're like number one objective is to not piss off the big boss man who's in charge or who's like the celebrity or whatever like as a producer as a writer etc you end up having to deal with a lot of bullshit before you get yourself into the situation you want yourself to be in and like ultimately it's so easy to rub the superstar the wrong way that you could just up your relationship with them and i mean would you say that's the general synopsis of what kind of didn't work out once i became a superstar in my own right and i started having to deal with all these personalities yeah it was hard to deal with people and you get real frustrated and sometimes you cut some other out so once i started seeing that that's why Chris Brown do what he do.

27:39I said, God damn. He's standing on the square as a man and running his program. You know, there's ways to do it better, which I'm working on. I could teach him some of the shit. But a lot of people have a hard time understanding if they haven't been in that position. Just like a person like him at the prime of his career, his attention is divided so many ways. He's just got so many different things to pay attention to. Like, I actually, I seen a Twitter thread the other day that somebody was saying that they produced a record that ended up on DJ Khaled album and they went up to DJ Khaled at a party to tell him and they said he didn't look up at his phone he was just like oh that's what's up and I kept texting but like if you know how much shit somebody like DJ Khaled is going on that's not really that surprising but to a normal regular person that expects a reasonable amount of human interaction with somebody that they're having a conversation with they they think that is like bare bones you should get that kind of attention but when you're really dealing with a superstar These motherfuckers are in the clouds most of the time.

28:37You got to remember, whoever brought that to Khaled is who Khaled's going to identify with. Because how do you know you're not full of shit? Just looking to have a conversation about something. Now, when it comes to you and Chris, I think the biggest thing, they say you attacked him. I don't know if they said you said somebody's kid or you said dude was kind of like part of the community or something crazy like that. I was looking for it and couldn't find it I only found Chris response Well what they say is his response I don't know if that's What he said is what triggered you Where he was kind of like trolling you Right and he said referred to like The only thing better than a broke Nigga is a crying broke nigga Some shit like that and he said I brought this with your money I brought this with your money this with your money Was that a reaction From something you did or said Yeah yeah yeah like I was provoking and we both was provoking.

29:33I really just wanted a conversation because at the end of the day, like, a conversation is just talking about it. Yeah. So I just wanted to do good business. You know what I mean? But I didn't handle it the right way. So at the end of the day, everybody know Chris ain't a buster. We all know that. Like, he's 10 years in the fold of what he's been doing. Probably longer than that. He's solidified in what he do in the streets. And, you know what I'm saying? Everywhere he go, he got love and respect as a man. So, you know, For me to make him at the police hand, I felt like he forced my hand as well, but I probably overplayed my hand.

30:09I used to have a big chip on my shoulder because I'm a singing-ass nigga. But I be feeling like... You think you're a better writer or just a better performer? I'm not none of that. I'm just Kevin McCall. That's why I play football, model. He's got the water right there just so you know. Oh, good looking. Poodie Tang, let him see your outfit real quick. Poodie Tang. Come right here. Let them see. Can they see? If he stands near me, they could probably get a little bit. Let them see real quick. Come on.

30:38Side of tail on a tippy tie. All right. That's it. That's it. Ta. Ta. Side of tail on a tippy tie. He look like Lush. Like a Lush fit. Like Lush. Lush fit. Only because Lush just comes in wearing the most random shit every day. You never know what to expect from him. Like if Lush came in in that outfit, I would be like, oh, yeah, of course you got that in the closet. you got a million different looks in the closet but um okay so so once this whole thing comes out i was kind of surprised to see how quickly chris brown like rejected it and basically like because like young thug reached out and basically said like tweeted out that he was going to make sure that chris compensated you or whatever and then chris's response to it was just to kind of laugh And at that moment, we kind of realized like, oh, okay, he has a level of animosity towards Kevin that a lot of us were not aware of that this many years later, he still felt.

31:37I don't think so. Chris got so much shit going on overseas and shit like that. That's why I really feel bad that I even tried to, I didn't, I wasn't trolling. I just wanted to, I troll myself. So I feel like nobody's exempt for just, you know, having some fun, being jovial. I'm an athlete. You know, but some people don't see it that way. They see like I'm trying to kick him while he's down or something, but he's up to me. And I'm up, even with the EBT. Like, if you see my Rolodex, like, I got some hoes for you. I'll let you. I'm up, though. I'm the EBT king. But, I mean, okay, we had Thug going in like the full.

32:13Truly humble under God. Exactly. Hallelujah. It feels like Thug is in his empath era right now because he sort of has had so many people turn on him and he's finally feeling what it feels like to be a normal rapper who gets ridiculed and rejected and shit on by the media and having some of his peers not returning his calls. It feels like Thug right now is kind of realizing like, oh, I got to care more. I got to have a little bit more of a heart for people. And so he sends out that tweet, and we're kind of feeling like Chris Brown's going to match his energy, and then instead we get something that made it clear to me that Chris Brown still has a chip on his shoulder about however things went down with y 'all.

32:53I don't think he got a chipper in his shoulder. I think you said some crazy stuff. I didn't hear what you said. When? They keep telling me you said some wild, crazy stuff. No, I said light-skinned niggas got some good buzzy. Oh, is that what? I was doing a, what's the homeboy that be around? That's like a brick baby. Yeah, I got that brick baby. Oh, you said that recently. I know that's how you go viral when you say that. Oh, so you said that. That's a brick baby in Orlando. Yes. But Bryson. Yeah, Bryson in Orlando. Bryson is my little homie. I used to mentor Bryson when he was in high school.

33:20with my bad boys. Oh, shit. But I was just mad at Bryson because I don't like when people give me my flowers in private and won't do it in public. And he been asking for the same song for seven years. I'm tired of it. So then I just wanted to like, it's like my poker face, I said, you fucked up, you can't get a feature. And he was like, oh, and that's why he was doing all that. I got a call the other day from him. You better rock me, Bryson, I'm gonna make a song. So, I can't even say that. Bryson Newt, killer? You gonna disrespect him? What you gonna do? I don't want to disrespect. I respect all men.

33:52Okay. Especially. He playing his calm role. But I got a call from you right, bro. You been threatening to whip people's asses. Yeah, Young Buck. I'm bipolar. Shout out to Gucci, man. Go get his book. Listen. So what happened with you with Young Buck? This nigga Young Buck. You talked to Young Buck about him? Not Young Buck. No, not Young Buck. I knew where you was going. Young Buck. Okay. Hey, you know to hear the story that I always tell about the dude we caught with Danny Boy. Oh, shit. You know what's happening. Danny who? Danny Boy. He's going to tell it. The dude we caught with Danny Boy.

34:27Okay, what happened? At that front, right? Where they were doing something they weren't supposed to be doing. So his name is L.A. Buck. L.A. Young Buck. So he calls me the other day with Reggie Wright telling me. I swear that you keep calling him, threatening to put hands on him. You know I'm going to school to be a pastor, right? So I called him and said, you're going through some stuff, I'm going through some stuff. Let me lay hands on you in prayer to say wherever two or more gather, there is heat in the midst. And he probably took it out of context. People always do that with me. But what he did was, when I was homeless the first time, when I broke up with Eva, I was homeless for a minute.

35:07But I didn't know I had 70 ,000. She's your baby mother, right? That's my child's mom, my lovely child's mom. You have to say lovely. and you don't play with her. I'll reach over the table. All right, but look, when I was homeless the first time, I was staying with Jerry Rice's daughter. Why I say that? Because I'm with him and he the king. You were staying with her. What you mean? You're staying with her? You was with her. Because I was trying to get on my feet. That's that L.A. homeless. You still got a mansion to go stay at. When you look like this, you can do that. I really don't even need money.

35:34I'm the EBT king. I'm going to take all of them to Hawkins after this. You been to Hawkins? I've been to Hawkins. I'll get some fish. Hawkins. I knew there was no coincidence that everybody with you is wearing red right now. We want to hear about this. So then he said, look, I got a proposition for you. He always got a proposition. His first proposition was he could get you on a billboard. I don't know what that scam is. No, no, that's not a scam. Okay. I know that. He got billboards. But this is after he didn't scam me. I thought this at the time. I'm homeless. And I guess some other dude asked me, said, just give me two bullshit songs.

36:11Sign this. I didn't read it. I did bullshit again. They paid you. They didn't pay me. That wasn't a bullshit dude. That's Peanut. You know Peanut. No, I said I did bullshit. Yeah, but he paid you, though. No, I didn't get paid. They said I'll get paid once the money's coming. Peanut never paid you to do those songs? Never. And then I heard something about a short dog or some shit like that. Or shy dog. So you telling me the songs you did, you never got no money. Yeah, the songs are bullshit now. It's Start All Over. and girls like dancing. And you're telling me Peanut never gave you no money. I never got to die.

36:47So I was never threatening my problem. Peanut and the feds do a 19 right now. He told me that. He told me that. So it was really out of his hands. It was one of them situations. Just like I got a lot of money. That's hard to believe, bro. Because Peanut, one of them dudes would walk in with a bag of money and just be like, you need something. Well, it's probably just, I didn't know you, Wack. That's why this is. Nah, but Peanut himself, he a stand-up dude. Maybe he gave the money. Maybe he gave the money to somebody that didn't give it to you. I do not know him as a man that don't pay. He will give you money.

37:15Like, he'll walk in there, like, do you want to meet you? Shake your hand, and he'll just give you 10. Now you're opening the can of worms. It's like they said I blew 8 million, but I only had, like, 1 million. I probably don't want to take 10K. So who stole that 7 million? Like, if a random gangster offers me 10 grand, I probably don't want to take it, right? He's not one of them dudes. It's just like he just appreciated that you took the time to meet him. I see what you're saying. God looked out. He be doing that. That's probably why the stuff didn't work out with whoever I was signed to and whoever I wasn't.

37:45But now I'm signed to the kingdom. That's why I got kingdom music. I got my own label. So what's the relationship with you and the baby mother? Man, I wish I was in a relationship with her. So beautiful. I just want to sing to her again. Y 'all don't co-parent? I'm going to take her to Casa Vega. That's her favorite restaurant. But y 'all don't co-parent? She married to a light-skinned nigga. What that got to do with you co-parent? Light-skinned niggas don't like me. But what that got to do with you co-parent? No, she not even with that dude no more, right? They got back together. Oh, okay. He's a district attorney of Atlanta.

38:23He was the, what you call that? Not the head DA. Is it the assistant DA? Yeah, ADA. Yeah, so when I got arrested up in the courtroom, they said I was fighting, but I wasn't. It was his partners. Lawsuit. Allegedly. So you haven't seen the kids in 10 years? 10 years. That's why I'm losing. You signed off for your rights? Nah, never. You capping. That's gotta be tough. There ain't no way, bro. Come on. Never. I was gonna do a name change because she tried to change my daughter's name on the show. No, she didn't try. She did. And for her to do that, that means you must have signed off for your rights.

39:00No. And that's why I had the courtroom. That's why I had the And that's why I was in court that day. So you never signed off on your rights? And the court just allowed her to do a name change? No, so after I was answering that, so then, no, not I was answering the question. I'm saying I was answering what the court was saying, the response to what they were saying. Like, she's doing a name change. And then I hired Stevie J, helped me get an attorney. She helped the litigation with Rick Ross. So you can look up whoever that lady is. She took my 7 ,000 because she said she fell for the shit. He's fighting.

39:37He's acting crazy. I was talking shit, but I really believe in freedom of speech. But since I've been to the pen and stuff like that, I'll be like, just make life easy for you. You're already sexy and chocolate. People going to hate on you, so just make it go easy for yourself. Am I lying, my beautiful sister? Thank you. And she's a stud, so you know she ain't lying. Shout out to JJ. Are you a stud or a stem? It's giving. Whatever it is, it's giving. And I, you see, do you fuck with, what do I call them, white boys? What's up?

40:16I need a stud. I never tried that. Clock it, clock it, Adam. Bring in JJ. You doing God's work. You see what you just did? I got to send you his page, bro. Like, have you ever came across something that make you laugh so hard you be crying? Dude, he DMs studs. He catfishes them. Oh. And then he pulls up as the man. He was looking at my shit. Nah, sure. That's how I got hurt. So 10 years, how do you feel about that? That shit inspired us all. That's why I be crashing out. I didn't crash out. That's why I do shit like crying for my EBT. Like, I'm just genuine. I think that shit is, like, dope. But yeah, I be missing him, though.

40:51But now I got a God Baby. And my homie is dope for that. My best friend gave me a God Baby, and they gave me my baby fix. How much you get for EBT? They cut me off now because y 'all done blew it up and made me go viral. Wait, really? That got it cut off? No, the government cut it off anyway. Oh, yeah, they're cutting it off because of the government shutdown, right? I really was going to treat y 'all to some Hawkins, but you're going to have to go to Wax. Hey, hold on. Did they cut it off because of the government shutdown or? Or because of? I don't f*** with it, but I'm going to see if we can get Hawkins, though.

41:21But I feel like you don't, like, make a viral podcast appearance and then they cut off your EBT. I feel like they need more than that. If you're on EBT, you're on EBT. But a ton of people are getting their EBT cut off because of the government. I know you buy stamps. No, I would. I would if I knew where to get them from. I've never used an EBT card or bought an EBT card. Whoop-de-doo. I come from the OG, the Booker Fool stamps. This nigga here. The light pink, the light green, the brown. I will buy it. I never used mousse to comb my hair back like Johnny Blake. $200 for$400? Boy, listen. That's what we did.

41:56So they didn't cut you off because of the social media. You know where I really had EBT? Why y 'all trying to be funny? We ain't trying to be funny. Y 'all might ask you what? Y 'all trying to bring Cry Reese out, huh? Who? Ty Reese? Cry Reese, yeah. What you like, what you like.

42:19Can you chill? Oh, God damn it. Where that water at? That's some five heartbeat shit just happened.

42:32Can I? Fuck it. You're going to have to buy the album. Risk it all out now. I'm singing on that without fucking it. Did you just release it? I don't sing for niggas. Can I sing for you, baby? I did. I did. And I made it off of pure. Wait up. You just released the album? I didn't release the album. I didn't release a single. A gospel song. I don't know. I just was mad at a chick and I made a song. A chick who couch I was sleeping on. How about this, man? Listen. Listen, Adam. It's just. He's going to get out. What? It's bothered me. No, for real. Because I'm looking at you and I'm listening to you, right?

43:10And I see you coping with your situation. But I think you just need a situation. And I think because you're dealing with the powers that be, you're a real dumbass for going to Chris Brown. And there's a few others. You want to have Mary J. You said Mary J can't sing. But you didn't really go at Chris Brown on back on Fig, right? No, I don't. You weren't like violating him. You were just talking about like my situation's fucked up. Will you ever be cool with T-Rail? You wouldn't? Because he said some crazy shit. I just can't remember. You said more. Yeah, I just can't remember. You said something to where he will never fuck with you again.

43:44Well, this is the thing. I know what you're talking about. And people like this. I'm telling you, I just don't remember how to. People like to take what I said out of context and I'm going to say it like this. What is it that you said? I'm going to say it like this. I know what I said, and I know what I didn't say. But what did they think you meant that you didn't mean? I'm going to say it one more time for the people in the back. I know what I said, and I know what I didn't say. So what did you didn't say that they said you said? And I'm going to say this. Everybody involved knows what I said and what I didn't say.

44:08So next question. Nobody ever f***ed y 'all over like that, huh? If you say anything crazy about it, I might have said it. Kevin McCall, King of R &B. Well, listen. Well, people got mad at me when I told them. I was just with K-Mac and they like, man, dude said this they insinuate you said something about his child and called him gay. But here goes the thing. When you deposit me, this is how this works. What if they say something about me? That don't matter, right? No, it does. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. We try to put it in the right order. You know what I noticed was weird and you probably deal with this with the algorithm.

44:44My algorithm, I got 10.5 million views in 30 days on Instagram. but every podcaster on YouTube is saying negative stuff and they all ugly. I'm talking about all three of us that take their bitches. So it's got something to do with that. I don't know why the algorithm is, what's going on. Because without the algorithm, I know one thing, Breezy Bro made what? Nine point what? 90 million? How many people was there? What is the tag before deuces? What is the tag before a gang about 10 of them motherfucking songs? Kicker, kicker, K-Mac. So my followers, I don't care about that. So you think you're the one?

45:21My followers is everybody that heard that. So you think without you, it's two or it wouldn't happen? Not saying that. All I'm saying is, people know me. I'm not a nobody. The algorithm is fucked up, though, a lot of times when you realize that you could post something, and it won't really do good, and then somebody will repost it hating on you, and then that'll do really, really good. It's crazy. And you're like, damn. I know they're hating on you. I've seen it. So what do you want to do? That's the question. What do you want to do? I've seen it. I really want to do music. Everybody was acting like I was begging for$25 ,000.

45:52I was standing on principle. I completed my songs. I wanted to earn that. So you're saying you never got your back in. Yeah. So out of the 50, you only received 25. Yes, sir. But I recouped off of deuces. And then I had three options. Then the next option I was supposed to do. But that had nothing to do with it. I was supposed to get signed for$150 ,000. Something happened like that you didn't eat the money up another way and get your car. That didn't happen. He didn't loan you nothing in between. No, when I broke up with E, this is one of the reasons I got mad at CB, and I apologize for that because it ain't your fault.

46:23But when I was breaking up with Eva, I never dated a celebrity chick, and it's just like my image meant a lot to me. So I'm like, ooh, if I could get this next$150 ,000 if you sign it off. Because they was like, look, they always throw Chris under the bus. I think that's what's really happening. So let's just really put it out there because I put the email out there, and people always told me. Where's the$150 ,000 coming from? That'll be if I signed, if he signed it off for that old four-song agreement. I recouped off the first song, Deuces. You know what Deuces did. Four times platinum type of shit.

46:53So he wouldn't sign it off. Yeah, he ignored me, and I took it personal. But that's what that, what Young Thug said would be going with that. Like, he was busy. And I see that now. Like, my phone been going stupid since y 'all been talking about me and stuff like that. Y 'all some famous guys. Now they think I'm famous like you motherfuckers, and I got to get a new phone. So I'm like, damn. Has anybody offered you the opportunity to go in and work in a real situation? Legally. Yeah, I just did Omarion's new single, For War. It's cracking. Did you get your paperwork right? I got my chili, did my paperwork right.

47:29I mean, Omarion was actually the first person to cuss me out for doing bad business. And what else? He also was the first person to tell me that I was being hated on by, not Chris Brown, but by a girl. a girl who's the girl that's just a throw up so y 'all don't get me in trouble you gotta stop mentioning some of these people's names I didn't know you did you said a bunch of names right not just right then oh you talking about the singing thing let's say you go on some things and you say hey Adam 22 he's a bitch ass and you say that right But then you tell your management, hey, reach out to Vlad and tell him I want to come in.

48:16When relationships are there, Adam don't even got to say nothing. It's a good chance Vlad may say, I'm not. Who do you think is trying to reconcile to me and Chris Brown? Who needs to? Is there anybody in the middle of me who cares? This is what I want you to do. No, that can't be reconciled. Because this is what y 'all both got. I'm being humble. No, that can't be reconciled. Adam, do I need Chris Brown or does Chris Brown need me? Or do we not need each other? Clearly he's doing fine. So I would say you probably knew him more than him. Did you hear Risk It All? That's the new song? Yeah. Do you know how to sing?

48:48No. You have a talent? You just talk about people with talent, right? Not musically. Right. So go listen to Risk It All. He does. Risk It All. They risk it all. Is this some indie shit? And I'll let the music speak for itself. Is this indie? When did this come out? I done put my foot in my mouth too much. When did this come out? I dropped this. When did the girl kick me out of her house? because I wouldn't give her no more. Anybody know? When did I start living with you? You put this on a month ago, so this was after, or before the... Hey, you hear that? Sounds pretty good. Is it indie? Yeah, it's indie.

49:22Nobody is not at a... Unless I'm assigned to a WAC 100 record. No, I'm going to do something different with you. I feel you, because you're a businessman. You're a co-business man. Why are you turning the comments off? Who did that? I mean... That's the... oh you did you turn the comments off no that's the uh that's some sucky shit that's not my shit you scared it you scared it that's apple when it goes on apple okay because it's like kevin mccall topic which is different but so that got 62 000 views without any kind of promotion or anything you just still have like enough of a fan i want to promote that's why i was just you know being me put myself out there i said i gotta be a little more i'm just because i'm a comedian too so that's So a lot of that shit is humor and people think I'm like dissing.

50:06I'm not dissing. I'm not that type of dude. Because dissing to get your ass beat. Even in R &B? And I don't like, I'm like the coldest nigga in R &B. And it'll be bullying at this point if I like. What's the difference between the rappers and the R &B artists? I'm a rap R &B nigga, so that's why I'm a hybrid. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So that's why my energy is like Tupac, Nipsey, but a singing one. But like in hip hop, you can't really be like that much of a bitch. because the fans just want you to be kind of tough and hardcore and shit, right? But in R &B, you can literally be like the weirdest fruities dude on earth and still be a R &B guy.

50:43Was that a bitch when I cried by my EBT? Adam 22? Was that a bitch move? I mean, it was definitely a moment of emotional weakness that if you were a street rapper would probably be deemed unacceptable. You know how many bitches I got off that? You think I care about what niggas was saying? Yeah. Oh, it's only two right now. Three. I'm just saying, I don't think Lil Durk could do that. Why not? Like, if he was free. I don't think YG could do that. I mean, if that is true, that's probably the problem, like, people thinking that. And it's crazy that you think that, because you are a very smart guy.

51:19I watch your show a lot. Like, you're very bright. But who's, like, a famous street rapper that has cried on a podcast and had it go over well? Kevin McCall. Street rapper that has cried? On a podcast. What's a street rapper? And had it continue. Like a rapper who not only raps or like UBRB or whatever, but like a dude who like their toughness is part of their - The closest dude to him cry and he wasn't crying. He just sounds like he was crying. Mike Tyson. It was Kondo Rondo. Oh, come on. Did he? What episode? He wasn't crying, but you know, he starts whining and shit. You know, when he gets really emotional about something.

51:52But I've never seen a street rapper cry. Cry-reeze, yeah. You don't like Tyrese? I love Tyrese. I'm Cryrese. And that's what I do to stop myself. So does he take that as a disrespect when you say that? I don't know. He don't call me. Tyrese seems like he'd be crying. Oh. No, he cries. We've seen Tyrese cry. Yeah, right. He cried on the Breakfast Club. I cry. You cry. Cryrese crying together. That's what I do. I come up with jingles and shit. I could make you a jingle for your show. You need that. Yeah. This is Adam 22, and you know what it do, because this is Adam 22. Let's get in. Yeah, Tyrese be crying like a good amount.

52:40That's my opinion. Just a couple times. I mean, he's a very compassionate, emotional guy. Me and Tyrese, we share the same tech guy. He does our game rooms and shit like that. I'm a fan of Tyrese. That's why everybody I'm a fan of, that's what I talk about. I've had women tell me that they want men who cry, but I feel like it's a trap and actually they want you to cry about an extremely limited number of experiences oh I cry what gets you there if a loved one or a relative died and I cry I feel like my girl gets that loved ones or relatives I usually don't cry until later I wasn't crying over the EBT no you was definitely crying over the EBT I was crying over the fact that I qualify for EBT.

53:27That's crazy. Oh. I was crying over the fact that y 'all don't realize when you get EBT, you get the medical. My feet is fucked up. I got shot in my feet. I got crazy shit going on that, you know, I shouldn't have at 40 years old, but I make it look good. Y 'all don't know. Black don't crack, but it erodes, meaning it'll look good on the outside, but we got to take care of ourselves, black people. Water break. You 40? Okay. I'm 40. Did it make you feel more? 40-year-old virgin like him. Did it make you feel more comfortable crying or talking about the EBT thing given that you were in a room with two other people who were on EBT?

54:05Smack and T-Roll both admitted that they were on it. I wasn't really thinking about that. Like I said, it was for the man to come out. Oh, T-Roll said he was on the duo? Yeah. I heard Smack. I don't know about T. He didn't even say that. I feel like T-Roll, you can't be on EBT if you drop a G-Wagon, right? Smack said he was on EBT now. Yes. T-Roll, I think, was talking about back in the day, yeah. Oh. it's just like when you got like a homegirl and she's like not that pretty but you still tell her all the stuff that is pretty about her girl that's some cute shoes girl you wearing that it's kind of like that girls love to do that that's what he was doing like I had EBT too you know you might end up yeah I don't feel embarrassed about that shit I wasn't crying about the EBT I was just crying like damn like I could use a 25k for something this last one a whip because when I was hanging around a homie, I had a 2009 jail.

54:52I made 10 bands when I first got out, but they took that. That's why I qualified for f***ing love. I mean, I think a lot of people's reaction to it was just kind of like, you should get out there and hustle. Yeah, why you think I'm not hustling? Like, that was crazy. I'm going to be real. You're trying to get me a Fed case. There's a lot of ways you can hustle. It doesn't have to be illegal. I'm on my granny couch, Adam. I'm going to start today. You're talking about hustling and music? or just get a job? Either way. Don't you wake up and just try to figure out how to get some bread every day, basically?

55:25Every day. You know? I'm too fucking sexy and too talented to ever do a job. I won't even do a job like you do. I don't even have to work and people will bless me. I know this sound like some cocky shit, but I lived it. But you... I'm a prophet, bro. But you can't, like... My legacy, people want to pay me because of my legacy. You don't have to work? I don't have to work. Now, I can't take care of my kids. I can't take care of you and you and you, but me? I could go to Africa. I'm good. I could go to China. They know me there. Y 'all could make me feel like I'm nothing here, but I know. I get the DMs.

55:55I'm really like that big guy all over the world. If you needed to, wouldn't you drive Uber? You got to do that. You don't have a talent. I would if I had to. I don't have to. Okay, if I was on EBT, I would probably do that. If I have EBT, how am I going to get medical benefits? By going to work. Singers. I don't have to go to work. I'm making music. That's why my album, that's why I made that song, because I wasn't a dummy like other people and didn't settle. That's why when I got out of college and I had a criminal record, I was forced to do it. But you mean you wasn't a dummy like other people?

56:23I'm just saying no names. You did a bunch of dummy-ass contracts. Not really. You said it yourself. Not really, because when I get the people to look, when I get the people to go after it, I have to say that. Because I'm so sexy, if I say other stuff, y 'all going to hate me. So you're saying three of the songs. I said I'm so sexy. Listen, I don't know. Am I wrong? You're saying three of the songs you never. I'm just letting y 'all know why niggas is hating. Hold on, let me ask you something. I'm letting y 'all know why niggas is hating. sign. I'm saying when the lawyers go and handle it, I heard a lot of lawyers and they disappear.

56:53That's why I've been waiting to run into a person like you. You know why? Because who you're going after. Because I didn't bend over. No, it's because who you're going after. Well, I think when we doing gospel. You get what I'm saying? Like lawyers that look to do future business or in the middle of business with CB or anybody related to that, they're not going to take on your situation because of their relationship. What's a seven-year slave clause? What's that? What? You should know. You're white, so you should know. Whoa. No slaves. But what is a seven-year slave clause? Well, let's Google this.

57:31It's a computer right there. I got a team that you can use. They don't give me a problem. I need you because you got them people. It's not who you know. I don't know what that is. It's not what you know. It's who you know. Is it called that or you just calling it that? Well, I assume we don't want the biblical definition. I don't know what that is. Maybe in the U.S. Constitution, this clause, it's about literal slaves, which probably is not what we want. Add more context. I lost my phone because I had a wild night. I had a passionate night. Okay. The seven-year slave clause refers to the recording industry's exemption from a California law that limits personal service contracts to a maximum of seven years.

58:17The term slave has been used by artists, most notably Prince, to describe the restrictive nature of these long-term contracts, which can effectively bind them to a single label for much longer. So basically, like... How many years I've been signed to CB? I'll wait. Y 'all keep acting like I'm done. I don't really know. 10 years, I don't know. Y 'all sat here and acting like I was done, lazy. So you... Wait, wait. The CB... How do I have all these muscles Listen, does CB handle you today like you're still his artist? I can't afford steroids. Yo, Kevin, does CB handle you today like you're still his artist?

58:52Meaning, did he try to pull this song down or claim this song that you just put up? No, sir. So I think I got action, but people was telling me he was. And I can show you that. You want to see the emails? Where my phone at? I'm trying to figure out. No, I got the emails where they throwing him under the bus. I'm like, okay, you finished your MDRC, your minimum delivery requirement, right? which was the four songs at like in 2017 it was 3.29 once I got the Carrie Hilton placement Omarion and a whole bunch of other shit I completed it then it was like oh well now Chris Brown has to sign off on it just like when I tried to get my four times platinum plaque for deuces and a whole bunch of other shit it was like 10 plaques and then they claimed that Chris Brown blocked it but I don't think he did are you telling me there's songs out there that charted that you never signed off on a producer agreement?

59:44Yeah, look at me now. Okay. That's really the only one that I can think of. Your contract with Chris Brown, does it say that he can sign off for you because he's already obligated to a certain percentage and whatever is left goes to you? Well, let's go over it together. No, you don't have to. I'm asking. I doubt it. That would be crazy, though. No, it's not, because if you're in a deal with him, right, And this deal says they negotiate and he gets 50 % of your cut, right? That means whatever you wrote, right? Whatever you wrote.

1:00:22He negotiated and he's going to get 50 % of that. So he has the power to sign off on that. You know what I noticed? I stopped getting a lot of placements when I didn't work with him. So he was getting me a lot of them placements. Then I had to learn how to do the relationships. Like I got the tank placements and stuff like that. Faith Evans, certain ones, but like Justin Bieber, Rihanna. I got that through CB. Them some lovely checks. With birthday cake, we don't get paid. That's in the black box. So where those, you didn't get, you didn't get, you didn't get no royalty rate? For what? I got, I got money.

1:00:55Like, I got money. No on these songs. I don't even know what a royalty rate is. I'm going to go look that up. I'm going to have my little focus look at that. Yeah, I feel like you should have probably figured that out. I'm kind of, a lot of that stuff is kind of a mystery to me, having not really done music industry business. And that's why I was tripping. Like, I thought it was Illuminati. It wasn't. Well, we don't know. You know. All right, you said it. that means possible um wait but okay i'm trying to like anticipate what people are gonna say and i feel like you've kind of made it easy for them like you're kind of like i'm too good to just work but then also i'm getting f***ed up people are gonna be like you think you're too good for a for a regular job or for an honest day's work but then meanwhile if i think they're gonna take the impression from this that you're kind of like not maximally utilizing your time Well, that's the problem with people not minding their business.

1:01:46Like I said, I work out every day. Did you work out today? I did. Well, what the hell that got to do with you working? Your body is the temple. That's what it got to do with everything. I look better than everybody I'm around. So nobody could tell me about drugs. So you want somebody to take care of you? Let me finish. I'm not finished talking. I work out. I'm self-sufficient. I take care of my body. I'm a tank. I'm militant. my talent you know what talent is in the bible do you want to look it up it should be Matthew I want to say 20 or Matthew the parable of the talents so y 'all talking about my talent this and that talent was literally money it was a currency in the parable of the talents one of one motherfucker had three one motherfucker had two talents and one motherfucker had one this is pretend it's money the third one went and doubled it The third one went and tripled it.

1:02:40The second one doubled it. And the one who had one talent buried it like a dumbass. So what you're telling me to do is bury my talent and work a regular-ass job and not do what I was supposed to do. I'm doubling. I'm multiplying what my talent is. My talent is currency. So that's some knowledge from the Bible, brother. Are you saying if you go to work, it's going to restrict you from using your talent? I did. I can't get a job. First of all, I'm a criminal. I'm a felon. I just did three years in prison. That's tough. Yeah, and I'm thinking about that. Bullshit. The first time. I got a job out of prison.

1:03:08Yeah, but you don't sing. Your talent is taking people like me and helping us. I wasn't doing music out of prison. I understand that. So then we talking about two different people. Then we can't compare apples to oranges. Huh? In case there's any law enforcement watching. Well, I mean, that's like me saying your father was telling people's government checks. Well, I don't know. That's not true. Maybe it was. I don't know. That's not true. Don't do me kidding. I was trafficking. No, he was driving a truck. a variety of trucks. My first job was I worked for the thrift center$6.50 an hour because he said he was going to violate me if I didn't get a job.

1:03:48This is a fact. And I know back in prison, they paid me$0.30 an hour. He gave me an alley-oop. So which was a little better? Freedom at$6.50 or incarcerated at$3.50? I worked at the grocery store for, I think,$5.75 an hour. There it goes. It's been a while. Yeah, I paroled early. I paroled in the year because I was a model. Let me ask you something. You have any problems in the studio with people? No. You was in the studio with me last night? I'm asking you because I'm going to make a call, but it's going to be on me. I've never been in the studio with you. I don't know if you get loaded and flip out.

1:04:25No. I don't know if you show up with a bunch of people that you shouldn't show up with. I come dolo. These are things that people do to ruin situations. And it also depends like, you know, when you come from where we come from, and this is what I love about you, you mastered it. We have to be chameleons. We have to wear these different faces. You could be around white people, Jews, people. He could be around everybody. I'm on a weirdo every Thursday. R &B. Are y 'all homies? No, that's my dog. I won't play with you like that. I'm scared. No, that's my dog. R &B the one who told everybody when the girl slapped me, she was like, girl, she just slapped Kevin.

1:05:05and then the homegirl went crazy. She went crazy. She whooped her ass. Allegedly. Allegedly my ass. Let's see if I can get you a gig, man. Let's see if Wackin' Adam can get you a gig. What's the gig? I need a gig. I'm going to send him in with an artist. They have a budget. He'll call me back. It's not a setup, right? No, this is real. She's a big TikTok artist. Have you ever interviewed Justina Ballardone? this message you can come over now. The redhead that's on Wild and Out. Justina Valentine. I've talked to her. We spoke, but never did anything. Yeah, but she's huge on TikTok. I gave her one of her biggest songs, which is TikTok.

1:05:48Okay. Beat with Blueface remix. I'm going to get my weight. I don't know, bro. Can you... I don't know. Have you ever listened to her music? You think that somebody... I like how she spit on let me say that a different way. I love the way that she rhymes. Rather. Got you. So you can go R &B, rap, it don't matter. Yes. No pun intended. What you mean? R &B. Oh, yeah. You see, I'm a songwriter. That's what I'm going to do for her. Gotcha. You see? Is his cosign capable of giving someone a moment right now? He hungry. If he did a song with Blueface, is it a moment if it's a hit or does it get swept under the rug is he viral enough right now that it's like a thing oh we gotta see what he's gotta say his viral shit just makes it even it makes people want okay let's see what comes up they anticipate it because that was like outrageously viral it was everywhere on every page that's weird everybody got an EBT card so that was weird to me it is a very relatable thing that was a little different when you pulled that out I'm really weird most people no you're real I'm real most people wouldn't have pulled out their EBT card I'm not playing that shit I think there's been some people around us that might possibly have one but they've never told have any of y 'all they've never you ain't gotta say their names anybody ever told you that's working in the building they got an EBT card I think people just keep it to themselves yeah so for years I was hiding it for years yeah but maybe you could have been up or something.

1:07:30Maybe you was trying to make people feel sorry for you. I don't even got time for it. I don't got time for that. I'd really be hungry. But shout out to Hawkins Burger because before I even had EBT, the first time I got homeless ever, this was when I had the conversation with Tyrese, and I was squabbling, just like you were just seeing the same shit with my cousins. They always trip when I'm about to... Hold on one second. I went to Hawkins and this girl named Don at Hawkins, she like the daughter of the owner. And for that whole summer and she just let me get. One sec, Chuck. She let me get free food as much as I want every day.

1:08:03Yo. Yo. I'm in here with Kevin McCall. And I'm sitting here brainstorming and I know Justina Valentine is due to go back in the studio. Yes. She just gave me some dates that she gonna be in LA for this TikTok TikTok is fine. I'm here to do so. So I need, listen, I need her to, I need Kevin McCall to go in with her. Okay. But I need it to be a real situation. Okay. A real project. Okay. Can we make that happen? Yep. A budget situation. All right. Let me know what it is. We want to find her a hit. if not do produce the album. Okay. All right, so maybe we get him and Justina online later. Okay. All right, cool.

1:09:07Are you going to Masked Singer? I'm definitely going to Masked Singer. Nick, Nick, I'm going to tell Nick, brief him, so when I talk to him about it, he knows what's going on. Adam, I'm not famous enough to be on Masked Singer. All right. I'm going to head up here in a little bit. I'll see you there. That was a TV show, huh? So listen. You should go, ooh, that'll be hard. I've never seen it. What is it? Listen, crazy man, light-skinned dude. I got light-skinned too. What is Masked Singer, though? Masked Singer, that's a big show. That's like a huge show. I'm not familiar. If he was on there, I'd flip.

1:09:40Who? Adam. I'm an Adam Twin 2 fan. It's an American reality singing competition television series where celebrities compete in a series of singing performances while wearing elaborate costumes and masks to conceal their identities. What song would you sing? Dude looks like a lady. I know some people who work here who might sing that. Myself personally, let's see, what's my most recent? Caroline. So listen. That's who runs incredible entertainment. I'm going to sing Doot Doot by Skrilla. Justina Sinear. So they're going to give me a commitment to let you go in studio. Now I'm going to get you in the studio.

1:10:25It's on you at that point. You know, Pastor's my assistant. But you know she's going to keep me on point. Well, listen. I don't know what the hell Pastor got going on. Fire her. I'm saying, listen. If Pastor's going to make sure you get there, great. Be on time. I was late today. They're going to provide a budget. $5. James Brown,$5. Look, they're going to provide a budget. $5.

1:10:52and I'm going to deliver. I'll make up a song right now. In the meantime, I'm going to sit down with Nick and massage a television conversation that's independent of that. So I'm – That's lit. You know what I'm saying? That's lit. You're trying to turn him into your next Ray J, huh? No, I'm just trying to help him. Ray J is hard. You know I'm a Ray J fan, right? It's his artist. I got a lot of my stuff. No, that's the deal. I said Ray J is the Carson connection since I – See, a lot of people will sit here and they're drilling like we drilling him. And I see that he's willing and ready to work.

1:11:28But I understand he's blackballed himself to a certain extent. I'm a renegade in this shit. Can I explain, though? And you have blackballed yourself.

1:11:40I'm dramatic. I'm sorry. Let me get it together. For the white man, get it together for the white man. There's white people watching this shit, nigga. I'm just a regular guy. You can hear me talking? He said for the white man, get it together. He was praying. For a black man to say, for the white man, get it together. I need to. And he got white lips. That's some diabolical shit. Where my shit at? I run black, bro. Oh, he run black? He oven. He can't stay other without brothers. We got a neighborhood in the room over there. He put you on. That's the hat company made him turn around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:12:12I see he got his hat on. If I let you touch the show, baby. He rocking his Seattle man, his hat. My face going to look like a ghost donut. Pants you it This my shit Get out of here Poodie Tang I'm gonna kick you Square in your way See dude's an alcoholic Not you No no Not you Him Nah you fucked up Damn he held it And didn't sip it No I'm saying him Because he's been You been stalking That damn Bottle Because I would've been like Excuse my liquor You never had the Casamigos You don't know how good it is I don't know what that shit is Oh it's good I'm gonna tell you what I do know That's why people Stop listening to Migos Now listen Now, you know you called me, right?

1:12:49What? You called me. Uh-huh. The other day, we went a little viral, me and Munchie B. Oh. So I got up the next morning. That was a thing. I got up the next morning, and I played all the recordings. And I said, you know what? Okay. R &B get dressed. And you know where I went? Englewood. Englewood. Okay. To Market Street. To the Wood. It's called the Wood Urban Bar Grill. Food is crazy. I kicked it for two, three hours. And I didn't know Munchie B was going to be able to see me over there at night. Very funny. Why is that? He is blind. Okay, continue. I don't think he's blind. Shout out to Munchie B.

1:13:34And I think you know he's not going to be blind. When the white man was trying to make the dark skin man look crazy. Bro, he be doing this. Why won't he work? You do that too. No, he does this. I do this. Listen, dude's not all the way blocked I believe one eye may be shut down And maybe he can see like Some blear vision He can definitely see a little bit of something He'll be talking to us about stuff he's seen I think he's just mad because he didn't Oh, he didn't diss you Who he been dissing in rap battles? He could spit That's what I was saying I'm a fan of Munchie B That's Baby Runner That's Baby Runner Baby Runner been wearing his ass out too though I think Munchie B's a better Songwriter but this story telling baby gonna kill it.

1:14:19You said you go Munchy what color shirt you got going on right now and he goes neighborhood blue. And there was a little bit of blue in his shirt but it wasn't the whole and in that moment I was like oh damn did he just I don't know. Did he just like Munchy B on my next shirt. You know I wasn't watching you guys. Okay you sign him and then he'll sign Munchy B. Boom. You know he gonna you know he gonna shag night me. But he's trying to be cool to munchy. He's trying to squash you. Listen, I'm going to help you. Thank you, thank you. I'm not going to sugnite you. See, I told you, he looked like my pops.

1:14:51He looked just like me. I'm not going to sugnite you. Go ahead, a Chinese man. And I'm going to be real. People, I don't really deal with sugn like that. But he get a bad rep. On me. Because. All the girls. That's what Tony Goods did. That part that they depicted in the movie, where Pac said he was done with his contract, and they called him in and he opened up this book. That book doesn't require you stay. That book just says when royalties come in and residuals, that should got to recoup$4 million before you start getting paid. That's all that book. That book doesn't say he has to stay. Pac could have still went and did his deal elsewhere and got his bag and continued.

1:15:30So he put the K-Mac where he thought it was what it was. Yes. And he wasn't. He did not have. That's like if I say, okay, Adam, Adam say he gave me for half a million up front. Wack, you got to do 200 shows with me. I get to 200 shows and Adam hasn't recouped all his money. Actually, he has, but he's loaned me another 200, right? I don't have to stay just when the money continues to come. He doesn't have to give me a cut until he recoups all his money. I can go elsewhere. So when I'm looking at this movie, I'm telling myself, damn, a lot of these dudes really didn't know and understand the business.

1:16:04Cadillac Records. And I thought Cadillac Records wasn't going to happen to me. I would have been Howlin' Wolf. I'll put a spell on you Cause you're mine That is a good song I played the other day You watched that movie You was the white dude Who was fucking on Etta James Adeline I'm more familiar with His white man Got me a Cadillac You Okay I'm familiar with The Marilyn Manson version You put The Marilyn Manson I did it again Didn't do Remove some ribs Shout out to Etta James That's fair dude Yeah but that was just To give himself head And also I might be wrong What Why you talking about him What you mean?

1:16:41Marilyn Manson? I didn't know that. We got it here. I bet he was Kanye. What you mean? This was back in the day, and also it was a lie. That's not true. That's your favorite singer? Marilyn Manson? I mean, he's all right. Yo, listen. The beautiful people. The beautiful people. You know that dude is right there? Who? In the green shirt? No, I'm not familiar. He's from the Loose Cannon crew. He wasn't there for the beating, though. No, no. Let me tell you what he did, right? See, I knew you had slaves. Hold on. Talking about beatings. This is real shit. No, that was black on black violence. I ran into him at Ray J's house.

1:17:15Okay. You called me the next day to set it up. So I called him and set it up, right? Uh-huh. Couldn't call Passion because she went to jail for whatever she was in jail for, right? So last night, yesterday, he called me and said, yeah, K-Max here. I said, yeah, we're going to probably change the time. I told him we changed the time. Last night, by the 11 o 'clock, I get a call from the drunken manager. Manager. Hey, man. I don't know manager. Hey, man. I'm just calling you because I said, hey, bro, you drunk? This is bad representation for the homie. So then after the fact, when I hit him with that, he sends me a Malcolm X text about black people and we all fall short.

1:18:03So I'm asking myself, and it's crazy because he's always been highly intelligent to me. I didn't know that he is drunk like that. Every time I've spoken to him, he's always operated up here. Me too. Nah, y 'all grew up together. So you must know he must have done that before. I ain't never seen him do that. That probably was his. So what happened last night? What's wrong with the Malcolm X speech? Bro, if I call RMB in here, dude was telling me, we need to play his music. I said, bro, we can't play music Chris Brown owns. We can't do it. We can talk about it. We can't do it. So he's drilling me, but he's loaded.

1:18:45He's never called me like that. So was you excited? You've never in your life called me like that. You always called me on some up here type shit. I had some other personal things going on where I was in a battle with Don Julio. He got the best. He said he was in a battle with Don Julio. Call Wack. I told you, I'm a fan of you too. So probably it was that shit. I told you. Yeah, but I'm going to tell you something. You can't do that because if I would have been a white dude who was trying to do something, he would have scared the business away. That's a fact. But I tell you. Well, I'm going to get some time later and I'll pull him to the side and we'll talk on the side when we're not.

1:19:30And this is bad, Adam. Yeah. When Wack is telling me. When I'm telling you, you called me drunk about another man, this is unprofessional as fuck. When I'm telling you this shit, it's bad. That's funny. I'm going to put them to the side. You get what I'm going to do? So here goes to Mark. No, no. I got to give him the Malcolm X shit. Here we go. That's how he becomes. That's Malcolm X shit. He says, Wack, you know we have had many interactions, has always been respectful. It's going to continue to be that way as black men. We are working towards common goals of being moguls, and showing the young how to do such.

1:20:09Every man has his flaws and no man is exempt. So we must continue to work together in spite of our flaws as humans and come together for the greater good of our culture. What the f*** did that got to do with you calling me talking about? Hey, my n***a show. Okay, man, come n***a listen. What's going on? What the hell that got to do with this? How did you go from one extreme to that one? Sometimes drunken birds contain a lot of truth. If he was talking about the music, can I play one more song? Okay. What song? Can I play Have You Ever? This is your song, right? This is my song, and this is because— Chris Brown don't own his song.

1:20:50If he does, I don't care. I really want him to get on it. Well, what's it called, man? Like you said, I did f*** shit, but I didn't mean whatever people thought. And I don't mean a troll digger. What's it called, man? I'm trying to get their attention. Have you ever? People say I sound like Chris Bell. Maybe I'll be copying him. Come on, remind me of Tyrese. I'm Cryrese.

1:21:17I'll sign to you if you do my gospel. You hear me? I see it every day. I see it every day. I see it every day. What do you think? You don't have the headphones on, but I'm listening to you. He's throwing songs away. Stop releasing them. Stop releasing them. They're going to get season assist.

1:21:45You're not setting them up. You ain't doing nothing. Let's do it right. Well, I never had a team before. That's probably really why my career is where it's at. You know what I'm saying? But you being you, that's just because you're just like, don't nobody know what's there. You ain't seen, you shoot a video to it? Not yet. That one is going to be with Lionsgate. Shout out to Javon Dawkins. Lionsgate. Lionsgate. They're going to be, he got all type of shit going on. He the dude who made Electro's voice. Did you do a one-off with him or something? He the one who did Electro's voice for Jamie Foxx in that Spider-Man movie.

1:22:17Like, he tied in the movies and shit. He got his own drumsticks. Did you do a one-off with him? Yeah. See the bullshit? This is a bullshit side of the artist. You try to figure out what you do. I mean, you all in grown folks' business. I just said Javon Dawkins, so would you like to have a conversation? No, what I'm saying is, do you have a commitment? I was trying to tell you, but like you said, it's the WAC 100 show. You see what I do with? You the boss. You the boss. It's simple. It's yes or no? I said it. I said, yeah. And then you was like. So you signed to him for what? I didn't sign to him.

1:22:49We just, I wrote the song. So just a one song's a one-off? Yeah, we're just a single. Yeah. But he didn't put no money behind the marketing? He's about to. You got a little deal with TikTok. What's that little shit they got over TikTok? Bad manager. I don't have a... Bad manager. Who would you call my manager? Your manager. I've never had a manager. What you mean? You didn't tell him he was my manager, right? CJ said he was your manager. We'll talk later about it. What are you talking about? I never had a manager. So Cod can't be your manager? Cod? He's a crip. He cus like three times. You didn't catch it?

1:23:24That's how I talk. I thought you said you had families in all the projects. I got families on the projects. So why you favoring the Crips? I got families from the village town. Why you ain't favoring the homies of the Nickisons? You're not letting me finish, like I said. You know what I'm saying? I just said I go to Hawkins. Where's that at? Hey, dog. Nah, nah, but you ain't cun. Shout out to my family on that. You ain't cun at Hawkins. Man, shout out to Killer Twan. What? You ain't cun at Hawkins. Shout out to everybody know where I'm. My cousins is from all of the projects. So why you favoring the Crips?

1:23:54I don't favor nobody. You know who I favor? Why? You ain't blood. You cousin. I got a gang of rallies. I was just going to tell you. Nah, nah. You want to know where I grew up first? Now he want to raise. You ever heard of Village Town Piru? Shout out to little Scooby. Ujima Village. What you mean? Yeah, shout out to my cousin who raised me. Magic Johnson Park. No, I don't try to do it now because you way up there. I'm Ujima Village. It's not there no more than nothing down. That way. But I was in the Ujima's, though. That's where I grew up. Huh? Shout out to little Scooby. Antoine, that's who raised me.

1:24:20He sat out the little K down. Why did they knock down Ujima Village? Because, I don't know, he can answer that. No, no, it ain't got nothing to do with him. Why did they knock down Ujima Village? They knocked the whole project. Why did they knock them down? They sent everybody to Lancaster. No, they sent a lot of them to Victorville, Apple Valley. They knocked it down because the soil was contaminated and it was asbestos in the walls. People was dying of cancer that was living there. I did hear that. That's why they knocked it down. Shout out to the homie Baby Wayne from Village Town. Elbert Jackson, rest in peace.

1:24:52Talk to the homie. I taught him how to read and write. Shout out to JG. Yep. He helped me step my squabbles. I used to fight every day in the prison cell. He used to whoop my ass. All these people in the projects worried about ops. They need to be worried about the suspects. So to settle that. Damn right. Settle that. I am a tuna. Well, you know what tuna is? No, no, you're not. Listen. Why I'm not? I know turnt up non-affiliate. Why I'm not? I want to know why you favoring the Cripping. Like, the bounty hunter's right there. Village Town's right there. What's going on? Why Tyrese can say your pockets ain't empty, cuz, on the movie, but I can't say it just because of how we talk.

1:25:23You're not Tyrese. I'm asking why you favorite. I'm Cryrese. Cryrese, yeah, cuz.

1:25:33Well, you know, Tyrese stole Bounty Hunter BJ's album theme back in the day. Body Hunter BJ looks like, I like him. He looks like Tupac. Hey, yo, Body, hey, I seen, hey, Body Hunter BJ, I seen y 'all the other day with the dude who brother got caught with the transgender. No, no, no. Nigga be telling the jokes. You know what I'm talking about. No, no, no. His daddy did about 89. Who am I talking about? You know the dude? He was on Wild N Out. Watch on me, Quine is which one? That's the good one. The brother one, he used to do all the crips. What's the brother name? I don't even know his name. He got caught with the transgender.

1:26:10They had the video and all that. I don't be into that kind of thing. Do you know what the transgender told him? I don't even know how to suck that up. Now, dude was signed to Big U. He used to do all the Crip skits. The transgender came out and said, Bitch, if you say something, I'm going to put this video out, which you woof-de-woof from the back. Fool. Giving me scully from the back. Oh, my God. And the fool put the video out. We ain't heard. Now, why it's homie Kwan is not the one. It's his brother. Is it rich homie Kwan? It ain't rich homie. You some facts. No, why so many quons are good? His brother, he look just like him.

1:26:50No, he don't. One is dark skinning. The other one was light skinning. The dark skin. It was William the baddie. Cause I don't want to mix it up like that. Cause I got on the light skinning one. Cause he was pressing nephew. Flock the ball. What? Flock two balls. Yeah. He was, he was pressing him about his little skits and all that. I'm like, bro, he's 17 years old. Let him leave. Oh yeah. He said like, yeah, yeah. But I see body on the beach. They just shot a movie. right? And the dude had a suit on that looked like your ass should have been wearing it, right? The suit jacket had to be in the 58.

1:27:20Is that like what, Becky? Yeah. I mean, but it was for maybe independent feel or something like that. Yeah, suit on. But you know, who stole Tyrese? He said Tyrese stole his what? His album? Hey, shout out to Tyrese. Oh, that's what y 'all talking about. I thought y 'all was talking about me. Yeah, this is crazy. Tyrese gave my baby mama$50 ,000 to be in this video. It's called stay. Go and stream that. Oh, he hit her. He hit that. He had to ask me and she was four months pregnant with my daughter Marley. Watch your mouth. What's that mean, nigga? Watch your mouth. Okay. We Eastside niggas, bro.

1:27:53She was four months pregnant. You got a fine-ass chick right here and you got a pregnant one. You can hit one of them. Which one? God damn it, Tyrese did not get my baby a dent in her head. Which one you gonna hit? We hitting the pregnant one? That's a fact. It's fine. Yeah, nigga, what? We get skeet skirt and ain't our baby. It gets warmer. It's pulsating a different way. It gets warmer when they're pregnant. You know how many niggas were scared of me over my baby mama? Tyrese gave her 50 for the video. Nigga, listen. 50 asked me. He had to rank my permission, but I'm going to let you have your fun.

1:28:27He did that because that made it a little more mischievous for him. I asked him and paid you and he don't even know. And then she was like six months pregnant, right? And this nigga from France flew her out for 50K. Oh, shit. And I was like. It might be a new market we didn't know about. Pregnant poo-poo. Selling p***y to French dudes? Eva. Pregnant p***y. I appreciate that. You have to mention the character Eva. Get him. That's a different thing, bro. And you don't know my baby mama is a criminal justice major. Get his ass. That's a difference between Red Snapper and Swordfish. I'm doing too much.

1:29:01T-bone steak and tomahawk. Okay? So she got paid 50 twice while she was pregnant? Yeah, she a bad chick. You ever think about letting your girl sell pussy? Oh. No, but you have. Yeah, she sold me some pussy last night. Your girl? Yeah, we play like pimp at home. Oh, really? We role play. Wow. That's a fact. Nigga, only role play, though. Nigga, I remember the other. Can I play? Last week she was the college. Everybody already hit that. She was the college professor. She was the college professor. Shout out my boy, Stet. everybody smash the like button smash smash smash smash burgers shout out to the homegirl I remember her she came and did a video for me shout out to Kevin for coming through and sharing his truth with us yeah she is kind of bad what's up with her what's her deal we talking about you little study on her shout out to my man Jay they held the study on her I don't do threesomes, but I will go after you.

1:30:11You can go first and then. I would never. I would never subject a beautiful black woman to such a thing. But if she was down, I would definitely do that. A study out. Oh, no. I got to see. You go, bro. Because I know, you know, she stayed with the strap. And that could be a double in time. What you mean? What kind of strap? I'm talking about the stats. Oh, studs got to stay blicked up. That's my stats. What you mean? I mean, I'm just saying, like, we ain't going to spare a stud. Right. When we come through spinning that block, everybody got to go. Hey, but you know what's crazy? No women and children does not include studs.

1:30:43Let me tell you what your problem is. As much as you try to go stud, you can't. The manly shit is not there. Ask her who got me this outfit. Ask her. You know what I'm saying? Ask her who got me this outfit. What you mean? She got you that fit? tell him oh she the stylist you know I've seen some things just you know me being with him for a couple of days I didn't wear no drawers and I just felt like I just had to go what the f*** is going on she got him a fit that's why Kevin's gonna be alright shout out to my stars man shout out to all the beautiful women out there cause this is the thing I'm just playing with my friend.

1:31:35Y 'all don't have friends like that. When you coming to Cali? Let me say something. She got a... I can't shut out your business. She got the auction. She got... Hold on. I can say the password. I got a studiana up in here, bro. Oh, no. He can't bust that. We're going to have to compete. Hey, what? Huh? He can't take my studiana, though. Yo, Adam. What? I'm going to touch the story real quick. Who is that? All right. What's going on, though? He catfish his studs as a woman, and he shows up. He beat his ass and all kind of shit. Hold on. Okay. Yeah, what up, please? Who's that? Yo. A G-Unit wife beater?

1:32:10This is Jake. Tell him who you is. Yeah, I'm bringing a G-Unit wife beater back. You can't wear no kind of wife beater. Hey, yo, listen. I got a stud of y 'all in here, Jake. Where did the term wife beater come from? Trailer. Where did she want to be? Do you wear the beater wife? Hey, listen, listen. Now, look. She bought her business, and her problem is she kind of cute, so she can't really. She's trying, but you know what I'm saying? When you look at her, you know that she's still that. Oh, she a twin. She a twin. Is your twin a stud? No, she's a girl. I met her yesterday. Wait. Oh, she's a girl girl.

1:32:50Yeah, we got to hook you up, JJ. Matter of fact, I'm going to send Adam your profile. Let's see if we can get you to the news or something, because you funny as fuck. So you're going to be on my new album, EBT? Hell yeah. When you going to be out here? No, for real, it's a real album, though. That's smart to call that. Soon, man. I was just trying to have some stuff lined up. Kevin McCall hating on you, bro. Kevin hating on you, bro. Yeah, man. Kevin McCall, the one that flashes EBT cards at the EBT office podcast. Hey, if he hating on me, tell him. Man, you know what? I'm the real stud buster, so fuck you.

1:33:24Hey, what do you talking about? You funny looking nigga, you. don't none of the stairs be wanting you I ain't never seen you walk off of one they be fighting you what you do for me baby how many outfits you got me because I'm a man of God because I'm a man of God 10 outfits and you ain't gonna never find nobody I'm gonna sit down on your shit bro I think he gonna let you pop in bro this is hilarious why don't you play your song it ain't out yet so this is are you trying to That nigga's 40 pages. I gotta say this dude's shit, bro. You heard what she said? What you wanna do? Toot it up. You got a song called Toot It Up?

1:34:09Okay, I thought she said. I don't know. I gotta go. You got a song called Toot It Up? For the Mac. So are you talking? Oh, that's the homies. I wish he played the one we did today, but, you know. I'm going to kick you square in your ass Go listen to Toot It Up I got to run I got another interview I got to do after this one I got to eat Shout out to Kevin for coming through I like it A little bit more of a level headed appearance As opposed to the last time we've seen you He was in the EBT office I was hungry I'm hungry right now It was around this time He had T-Rail and Smack And they was mad that he got more on his EBT Keycarded and up.

1:34:56They were going poverty for poverty. They was going poverty for poverty. They cut me off of that other part. I only had the food. Snap, whatever it's called. Hey, do y 'all got any girls for me that cook or anything like that? I'm single. I'm ready to mingle. You got Princess. We fired them all. Yo, Princess. Oh, that's my girl. I told you what Princess did. I talked to her 11 p.m. at night. She said, I'm making my dude some tacos. I said, come by the studio tomorrow about 12-1. She pulls up to the studio at 12-1 with the dude. I asked the dude. You can't not be on here. Look, I asked a dude how was the tacos.

1:35:28Come to find out Princess didn't switch niggas out that quick. Hey, what you want to eat after this? Who? What we eat? What you want? I got you. That red look good on you, too, twin. We eat and whatever. I'm with whatever. You really like her? It's my dog, man. We just locked in, but you know what I'm saying? We locked in. It's my nigga. No, I think he really like you. I'm going to make sure she get her go. She likes it. Set the goal to the next week. So can we see the picture of you? Whoa, whoa, whoa. When you was wearing women clothes. No, she got one. She got a picture. Just show your twin.

1:36:07We had a twin day. And I dressed up like a girl. Where the picture at? God damn. Let me pull up the picture. Y 'all see that motherfucker, boy? Where the picture at? I am a stud, you feel me? But if I was to put that shit on, I'm going to be like, damn. Talk your shit, twin. Can you walk in heels? Nah, I'm a bitch. You don't know how to walk in heels? Nah. She was rolling her hips. I seen a little video. You was doing some shit. Where my wife at? Oh, I be... You did one of these numbers. RB! I be dancing on the pole and shit. What? Yeah. Check my Instagram. Leshawn underscore SD. You know, do a little bit.

1:36:47I want to see the picture. Now, you see the Native American. You so drippy, twin. I see the Native American. in you. I see you. I see it. I wish you would have played our song, though. You got off on there. They were trying to tell me to take your... You got off so hard, they were trying to tell me to take your verse. It's time for you to be selfish like Nipsey. We wasn't giving everything. We did like four yesterday. I want to see the photo. You want to see the photo? I got to send it to the homie. The homie JJ, the official JJ coming out here. Y 'all trying out. Bro, listen. His whole page is he just approaching stuff.

1:37:22One choked him out the other day, bro. I got to give you this ticket's paid. This ticket's hilarious. I think I know who you're talking about. He's funny. He's funny as hell, bro. I'm not going to lie to you. I do love that lifestyle, but I don't be trying to make him feel weird. I got some stay-at-home girls that's like, they like me because they like how fly I am. And they copy it. They're like, oh. Some of them like the kind of dad I am. They're like, oh. But some of them. What do you mean the kind of dad you are? Nigga, you ain't no dad. But they like how I'm trying. We can't play with that.

1:37:49Shit. We can't perpetrate the fraud with that. She called me daddy last night. She called me daddy the other day. Yeah, but I'm not there. This dude right here. We'll make you a daddy. The official double underscore J-A-Y-J-A-Y. This nigga is hilarious. I'm going to send it to you, CJ. He's stepping in my lane. I'm out of him. He's stepping in my lane. But you need to step your game up with your kid, though, bro. Don't make a song about it. That's why I was mad about EBT, because for the paperwork out there, both of my kids in Atlanta, it's like 280. Oh, you got two of them? I got two daughters.

1:38:22They both in Atlanta. By the same? Nah. Oh. So both of the girls is like kind of in entertainment and shit like that. So that's you on the left or right? Let me see. That's me on the right. Right here on the right? On the right. Ooh, goddamn. Wait, what's going on? It's twins. Yeah. Wait, who are you? On the right? That's you over here. Yep, right there. It's giving. The mug is sitting. You got the hair laid? I don't know Donnie. Can we zoom in? What'd you say you wanted to eat? Take you to Boston Nova, baby. All right. Yeah, we got to tap that in. And I got to sit this at home. This is ladies night.

1:39:02And the fittings, right? I like the scissors, scissors. She like to munch that car. Hey, listen, bro. Hey, look, bro. I'm going to set you up. But bro, now, bro, please don't have me looking crazy, bro. Please. And this could open up many, many doors. When I be playing, I be playing. But I'm sorry. That's Nick Cannon. That's Justina Valentine. Right? She's huge on TikTok. Yes, sir. She's talented. One door will definitely open another. I'm about to leave here and go to Nick now. Yes, sir. That's the dude that runs his label. My man Frisco Chuck out of Fieldmore. He runs the whole label. he's already gonna tell Nick this within the next day so I'm gonna have you on the phone with Justina we're gonna set up I'm gonna reach out to my comrades Stat Quo and see if he can do me a favor and go in as A &R cause it needs to be somebody in there crucial that don't take no shit and Stat don't give a damn he come from the Drey camp he don't care about nothing always been a secret to my success with a lot of my artists I'm gonna set it up bro please You're putting your name on the line.

1:40:18I won't play with that. And in the meantime, I'm going to call a few labels, and I'm going to let them know what I want to do. I'm going to take that song and send it a few places because it hasn't been worked. Bro, I'm going to try to help you. If you do the nigga shit or your manager call me drunk again at 11 at night, I don't know what to say. What, bro? God is good. And I'm just thankful that... That's your homie. I know y 'all have the same block. He told me y 'all grew up together. I'm thankful that I... But I will tell you this. I'm thankful I ran into you. I will tell you this. He champions you.

1:41:01He do. He cheerleads for you, and he believes in you. I will say that. That's a fact. I can't front... And then let the people know your business, because you worked for us before. Yeah, for the Blue Girls. The Blue Girls Club. Yeah. So SD LaShawn, nothing like the basic now, you know And the mic There we go, it's actually my first time on the interview too So SD LaShawn, nothing like the basic As far as my businesses go Me and my girl, we own a few party bus company Sprinters 50 passenger party bus, 18 passenger party bus 7 to 8 passenger Mercedes Sprinter van We got a dealership So if you want to start buying and reselling vehicles you know we put you up under our dealership or we can help you obtain your own dealership and yeah you can start buying and selling cars boom just get at me what else we do we got a Lashon underscore SD we do same day passports you need that motherfucking tomorrow you'll have it in here tomorrow actually you transported the girls for the blue face blast video we did all of that yeah I did the blue face blast video the report card not done yet hold on So where we at?

1:42:14We got the shop at the Swank Shop. Come check it out. The Swank Shop at the Sloss and Swap Meet. Come check it out. You got the studio. Yeah, go see it. We got the content house. I got an Airbnb in Gardena, five-bedroom house. I'm actually reverting it to a content house. The garage is going to turn into a studio. And then, yeah, I just started rapping. You feel me? I'm in it about one year. Yeah, I'm finna get ready to unload the clip. I got a hella of songs. Who your two? Me and him just locked in. Who your two? My two single weapons. My two main weapons is you now and Eastside K-Boy. I've been repping with him.

1:42:49Eastside K-Boy been with me since day one. You check out my music. Best year to shine, nothing like the bass. I'm going to get you set up. Stay tuned, y 'all. Check out Nothing But Sports. We got an event, Hollindale Casino, November 7th. We got 10 Bouts of Fighting, WBC belt. Shout out to my man, Ron Johnson, Steve Marcano. as well nothing but content coming our first 10 part episode is with 607 Unk we're filming the first series with Fleece Johnson 607 Unk Dr. Unk we're gonna try to figure out if 607 could get Fleece back to normal y 'all stay tuned with Ryan we out

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Wack and Adam grill Kevin McCall about his recent public meltdown,
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