The CuzBruh Interview

0:00No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world and today I am bringing you guys a very fascinating insight to a man who I've become sort of fascinated by on Instagram. Yeah. CuzBruh is in the building. Tight shit. How you doing man? I'm alive man, I'm breathing. Yeah. I'm breathing, I can't ask for more. Yeah. I can't ask for more. That's good man, you got a nice little kit in front of you here, we got the ocean spray. Right, we got the ocean spray, we got the DDG right here, the Dynadrug Gang. That's my brother's material. We got Landshark. We got custom jeans for my man Self. So everything's custom.

0:36This is my man, Harvey J. Y 'all know who Harvey J is. Anything's possible. Oh, Harvey J. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Nice. And so the bathrobe, is it fair to call it a bathrobe? It's definitely a bathrobe. But I feel like just like how Crocs are universal now. Universal now. The bathrobe? Yeah, for sure. It looks like a more involved bathrobe than what I'm normally used to with bathrobes. Oh, yeah, it's definitely. See, when you're dealing with Harvey, man, you got to be more extravagant, just the regular average dosage. You got pockets. Oh, yeah, see? You know? I actually feel like it might not be that great at drying you.

1:09No. No? It's not that kind of material? No, I don't think silk is, right? It's silk? Is it? I don't know. I don't look like it. I like the manufacturer, but I love the product. Wow, yeah. And then we got the fat boys. Gotta have the fat boys. Yeah, you be smoking a lot of loud, huh? Absolutely, bro. I got to. I got to. You smoke loud, right? I'm all about smoking loud, yeah. Oh, yeah. We're going to have to get in and fire it up. That's how I'm going to survive this 24-hour stream of Crip Mac that I'm doing after this. Burn it down. Yeah. Are we live for members? Oh, no. Oh, we're supposed to be, but whatever.

1:40Okay. So, yeah, man. So, okay. Let's do a little bit of the early story. So, where are you from? I'm from Durham, North Carolina. Right. Okay. And you still reside around there? Oh, yeah. We live in the Bullitt City. Been out there since I was a little kid. I ain't never left. Nice. Okay. And what was it like? Did you grow up in the hood or what? Well, I mean, you could say, you know, because the projects out there isn't too big. The city's not too big itself. It's a growing city now, you know, not comparable to Charlotte or Raleigh. But, you know, the hoods and the suburban areas are very, very close.

2:13And I stayed with my grandma for shit show as, you know, about eight, nine years old. And when she passed, we went straight to the bricks. so ever since then you know just growing up in the urban environment you know this would this would have turned you into really okay so do you have both parents around or not yeah okay what were your parents like pops was a rolling stone he was a he died from uh uh cirrhosis of liver because he was a heavy drinker okay yeah yeah he you know you grow up in the 80s you know you didn't know uh uh those drills were bad for you true true so he grew up in that time frame for sure mom's like a hippie okay i was definitely a hippie were they aware of what was going on in the streets my papa listened to ludicrous a lot of people listen to ludicrous when i was growing up it does get a little hot in here right i was kind of thinking that when i saw you come in with that i'm about to get comfortable you know yeah yeah my man adam bro oh yeah you gotta gotta get comfortable with me um okay but so uh oh he said she listened to ludicrous but they weren't involved any criminal behavior or anything?

3:18No, see, we can go, we can probably sit here for about three or four hours and talk about my family history. Wade Remington, who's my daddy's second cousin, my first cousin, got caught with the most cocaine in North Carolina back in the 80s. Oh, shit. You know, half of my family's, some Hell's Angels. You know, we got a little bit of mixed-cherry things, some trailer park trash, and then we got some high-end embezzlement bankers and stuff like that, you know? Okay. So, yeah, this is criminal history for shit show. Definitely. For shit show. Were you always, like, drawn to the streets or when would you say you jumped off the porch we got we got thrown into the mix you know i'm saying like you know poverty hits everybody you know even even even with two pair of household you could still suffer and then have to you know move into a circumstance where you need to save money and you know downgrade a little bit and that's what happened with us you know especially when grandma died so we definitely have to you know figure that one wait so your grandma died and that kind of messed up the financial situation but it's just like you know she was the backbone of everything you know especially to the like the high you know the monarch you know so right she kept everything together and after that everybody was on their own and you know we we had to move so okay so you guys moved more towards a rougher area at that time yeah yeah we were right on a rougher area for sure but most of my friends again they're so close right so most of my friends are from that area we end up moving into anyway so we was already you know in the mix type stuff but then once you move out there you know definitely about to be in Right.

4:40Okay. Definitely. So, uh, yeah. When did you first start getting in trouble or getting involved in the streets? I say my, my first charge was, was, was stealing stuff like that. You know, small charge. I ain't got no big, I ain't got no felonies. And, you know, I ain't, you know, everybody has a story, you know, as a kid growing up, you know, when they stole and then they started getting into stuff like that. We stole because we, we was hungry. We didn't have nothing, you know, and mom and pop pop's out working mom inside take your ass outside we didn't win no new generations right so it started from stealing and stuff like that and you know how it progressed it's crazy now because I was like just watching this interview of like people just talking about stealing from the grocery store and they just talk about it like it's a victimless crime like not a victimless crime but like as if you can't get in trouble for it as if it's so not a big deal I'm like bro when I was stealing out the grocery store when I was a kid I was terrified and like they were really gonna arrest you for that shit yeah yeah yeah Yeah, that was my first charge.

5:37That was my first charge. First time being in the back of a police car stealing candy. For sure. For sure. But I made a promise then. I said, I don't want to get caught no more. I ain't going to catch you no more. But you didn't pledge to stop doing crimes, but to just not get caught? Yeah, I pledged to get better at it. That makes sense. Yeah. Okay. So where did you kind of go from there? Man, we did all kind of stuff, man. You know, we did all kind of stuff. We did breaking in. We did robberies. Uh-huh. You know, we stuck people up, you know. Everybody does crime in a certain fashion, you know what I'm saying, to a certain point.

6:13Ain't nothing to brag about. It's just some of the stuff we did. But now we're to the point where we're like, you know, a lot of people don't make it out. They tell the story for shit shows. So, you know, we happen to be here, you know, thank the Lord for sure. So it's like looking back on it, it ain't nothing to boost about. And plus it's like when you get older, when you change the way you look at things, the things you're looking at will change. Especially when you have kids. Especially when you have kids. Definitely, definitely. We can get into all that for sure. So, okay, did you ever actually, when did you first become a gang member?

6:45Gang member? I was never a gang member. Oh, okay. I was just assuming because of the Cuzbra thing. No, Cuzbra comes from, I was a rapper at first. And it was a long name. It was Lil Boss Hog, Ken Folt, Shoddy Man, Lil Big Cuzbra. At first I was Baby Man to shorten it down. Baby Man. Okay. And then once that was put to the side and I came a family man, I started doing the clip stuff and going live. And I was trying to think of a name and I just chose Cuzbra out of that. Okay. But I f*** with everybody, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, being from the side we are, I don't choose sides. You know, I f*** Bloods, I f*** Crips, I f*** folks.

7:27Okay. It don't matter, you know what I'm saying? We mainly started doing it just for music because we was just about the music at first. That's how that came about. I was never no gang member. Was there a lot of gang activity where you were growing up, though? Yeah. Really? Yeah. The studio, our first studio, my first studio was at like, I was like 12 to 15 years old. And the gang unit, you know, marked my house as a gang-affiliated meeting area or some dumb shit like that. Because you were hanging out with gang members there, are they? Yeah, because I had a lot of traffic from the studio. oh okay yeah it's back in like 03 so it's like it's abnormal to have a studio back in 2003.

8:03Right yeah no I guess yeah that's a good point but um okay what what what was the direction of the music and everything like that at that stage? Just like everybody else everybody you know everybody got their story of an old past and a hobby they used to do and you just pick up I took it serious though you know we got nominated for the Carolina Music Awards we did a little bit of traveling but we're pretty decent at it and my brother um my brother went to full self as I I ain't in engineering, so he got a little background in that stuff like that. My daddy said, if you don't do it all, you shouldn't do it at all.

8:34So we tried to dip our hands in everything. Right. How far did the music actually go in terms of success or popularity before it kind of went in another direction? So like for instance, I had a YouTube channel called 100 Proof Cartel TV. And this was like 16, 17 years ago. And I was out with a camera recording, doing interviews, going to the hood, recording artists that was coming to the studio and stuff like that and kind of doing away that's when I met my wife 15 years five kids so you know I chose I chose a family definitely yeah for sure over the music side of things what you felt like you had to make a choice yeah I had to how come I said because it put you on the road you can't be there you know you can't and I want paying bills you know yeah and not saying I wouldn't believe that it would pay bills but at time as a as a young teenager with chill with child you know i'm not thinking like that's real yeah so i'm just like i gotta i gotta figure something out to maintain this first then i get to it later definitely 15 years later when did you start smoking weed i was 10.

9:38my um my cousin beau at the race car shop hand me a joint he said you ain't gotta listen to your mammy in retrospect How was the weed you were smoking? Oh, shit. Back then, man. Reggie Miller 2005, man. Shit. Man, that was a bad competitor these days. Right. Man, for shit show. Yeah. This being out of Cali, I'm fucked up in Cali. I ain't gonna lie. This weed out here got me fucked up. Really? For shit show. Fat boys, man. Fat boys got me fucked up, for sure. Is fat boys something from out here or out there? Fat boys everywhere. Oh, shit. It's on the way. we all got a little bit of fat boy on us

10:21you quit caught myself there yeah I hate when someone says something pause worthy and I miss it yeah I'm ironically pausing because I actually think it's stupid as fuck but you know it's a two way street for me you see Mace and them now they got like a whole pause channel dedicated to Mace dedicated to Paws? not Mace what's his name? the guy out there with Dave East the guy with Dave East and Jim Jones who's the other guy? Main Island Fabulous on the podcast yeah yeah yeah they got a dedicated Paws page for this motherfucker really? yeah I feel like he's just feeding into it at this point I've known multiple podcasts that had to ban the use of Paws over the years got too much?

11:10yeah I mean it just gets kind of ridiculous at a certain point. It kind of f***s up the flow of the podcast, especially when everybody has to fake laugh at it. It's kind of like you either f***ing fake laugh at it and it's just awkward. Unless it's a good one, though. Unless it's a good one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. These days, man, it's just so wash. I feel like it's going to fade eventually. I feel like that's my problem is that I think the ones that I do are f***ing hilarious. I think a lot of the other ones people do are stupid as f***ing. Yeah, like if Lush does one around me, I'm not. Oh, it's Lush.

11:43yeah but uh okay so was uh was there any uh reservations about starting to do social media stuff or how'd that come together oh man i just came out the woodworks man pretty much my nephew he plays fortnight he streams and stuff like that and i'm always talking shit you know coming to my nephew in my house so all his friends in the background was like man he need to he need to he need to stream he need to be on here talking shit so we just end up doing it and we kind of We kind of came up with a formula where we was going to be like, all right, we're going to shoot for a week, and then we're going to post next week.

12:20And while we're posting next week, with scheduled posts, we're going to be filming again. So kind of like a job where we're going to have a cycle going. Before the first week was up, the college kids that I ran into, my first Viaclip that brought me back into it, or brought it to a super life, was the college kids. And they asked me how long I've been married, and I said 13 years. And one of them said, fuck. So I like the Kevin Gates scenario. So I just, it was one of those clips that just went crazy. And it was like a hashtag, who's this? Okay. And then the second one was with the, and it's kind of hard to say.

12:51I know you're edgy, right? Your podcast is edgy. But the term of me saying it was a black, African, American kid that told me to start acting black. And he was going to piss him off. And I told him, I said, start acting like a female. That's going to piss me off. Right, because he was zesty as fuck. You know what I'm saying? So I pulled the Uno reverse card, they say. Uh-huh. Yeah, I did see that one. Yeah, so that's the Uno reverse card for shit short. That was the second one that went viral. And then, you know, fast forward maybe six months, here we are just being consistent, making content.

13:23I got my nephew now, you know, just like I did back in the day. I ran a studio. I found him. He's running the studio. He's doing it exactly. He's just like a mirror of me, you know, just trying to help him and guide him. So I got this, like, concept of Uncle Nepp. We're in an unc season right now. Right. Right. You know, it's our job to reach back and guide the next generation up, up and coming, even if we got power or not. Right. So he's one of them just kind of diving back into engineering, producing, doing content. Have you dealt with a lot of accusations of being a wigger over the years? Yeah, so like wigger or wiga, you know, you could argue the same context of using the A and E.

14:05I'm just now getting into saying Wigger on the podcast and not feeling weird about it. Because I feel like it's so close to the other one that it has always kind of fell off limits. And then recently I'm like, I've seen so many people saying it that I'm like, all right, I guess I was possible. But you can't be like the W word. Or what about the E-R or the A? Is there an argument there? I do think that that's a thing. But like 1090 Jake posted an Instagram reel and it said like, it's that current trend. like uh yeah show yourself when you were a wigger yeah and he posts all those clips of him back in the day or whatever and i commented and i'm like bro you're still a wigger and he goes the hard r is crazy yeah i seen that the hard i was crazy which i honestly didn't think about but i guess you feel bad huh you feel bad not really no i mean it would have been awkward if somebody in my life was like actually offended by it like i don't know because like you know you want to apologize but i don't know if i would have been able to apologize with a straight face well back then it was sort of like a derogatory term towards white people that were i would say it still is but people have kind of grown to like appreciate it yeah now we are yeah just same way because we don't take ourselves as serious as we did in the 90s or whatever where like if you call me a wigger like what are you saying you're you're a white guy that is like appreciative of black culture like all right sure it's a form of an endearment now yeah i mean the offensive use is just like You're someone who doesn't even know who you are because you're such a fucking retarded white dude that you actually think that you are something that you're not.

15:43Yeah, the seesaw ones. That's like the negative usage. You think it's hard or easy to identify the ones to, like this one's validated, this one's not. You can just tell. I mean, life is just all about being self-aware. And people who aren't self-aware are always just going to be kind of cringe. and easy to identify. Yeah. Sometimes I like to be cringe on purpose. You can like totally fuck with a nerd that knows he's a nerd, but if it's a nerd who thinks he's like a thug, it's hilarious. It's like embarrassing, you know? Or if you're a nerd who like thinks that he's a Casanova, but really he'd be scaring all the girls.

16:26That's like the root of like humor right there is like someone who thinks they're something they're not. Absolutely. Sad. It's definitely lit. You know that hit where you just like suck in like tobacco air? Or like weed air, I guess. Okay. So. Where were we? So, okay. Like, what's your day-to-day life like at this point? What do you do? It's very drastic. You know, we did some test runs. We went to Cleveland, then we went to New York. So we feel like we have, you know, a formula that can work on the road. Okay. Doing what on the road? Content. Okay. You know, collaboration is about that for us.

17:18Uh-huh. You know, brand deals is obviously where everybody goes for, where I pay for the bills when monetization isn't. Uh-huh. You know, social media sometimes doesn't pay, right? Right. So that's pretty much the aspect right there. We run a couple channels, so we kind of do promotional ad revenue stuff for different companies and stuff. Word. Yeah. Nice. So will you just go on this monkey app? Yeah. Is that what you do? Yeah, that's the original thing that we do. We do something called random chat, and I do it on lives. It's sort of like how TikTok is, too. It has it, but it's not as popular.

17:57There's a few other ones. It's called random chat? Yeah, that's the genre of it, like random chatting with random people. And are these safe to do on stream? No, absolutely not. Well, see, there's two ways to go about it. With Twitch, if something happens on there that isn't with the guidelines, you're going to get banned for sure. Right. Right. Kicks may be more open-minded. For sure, kicks a little bit open-minded. So normally we do something called a black screen, where we have a black screen kind of already, you know, and a delay for sure. Okay. Yeah, that way you can just censor it out and bring it out.

18:30That makes sense. But that's why I don't really promote, that's why everybody asks, like, I don't ever see them live, I don't ever see them live. That's the reason, because it's like, I don't want to capture nothing, something crazy. So you feel like if you promote it, that people are gonna fucking go there and show you their dicks on purpose. I guess, honestly. It's a wild world on there. I would almost even want to do that, like, just to fuck with you. See what I'm saying? Yeah, so I can see the appeal. There's a lot of you on there. And have you seen a lot of dicks by accident like this? everybody asks it's a known thing right that's why there's a black box for it to hide that yeah it's a wild man so i always out there for sure but it's crazy too because like you can't even trust somebody you could just be talking to somebody and they can just pull out of the way no no you know what i'm a great identifier for that like you got to be on point for that yeah for sure sure sure like you can tell because you got like you got the the the ceiling people you know first you see the ceiling just get out of there oh because that means they're about just Just, you know, just quick.

19:28Bam, quick as you can. Got it. Right? And then when we see, you know, minors, quick as you can, go up there. That was the other thing I was thinking, yeah. Yeah, report it. Report it, yeah. Oh, because they're not even allowed to be on it. No, absolutely not. I feel like it's a duty. You know, it's my job. I'm the hall monitor. I'm going to report. Right. Get it out of here. Definitely. For sure. Definitely. So what's like the craziest shit you've ever gotten into in your life? In my life? Yeah. Yeah, give me a wild North Carolina tale. Ooh, a wild North Carolina tale. I don't know, man. It's going to give me a lot of trouble.

20:04A lot of trouble. A lot of trouble. Wild, North Carolina's not really wild, man. It's just wild people, you know. North Carolina's a very diverse state. Right. You know what I mean? Because it's from coast to you. You got mountains, then you got the ocean. Y 'all got mountains and ocean together. We ain't got that shit. But we do have mountains, and then we have Piedmont to the f***ing oceans. Right. And then little baby cities, but only two. Charlotte and f***ing Raleigh. Okay. Kind of like the barbeak cities. Right. There's stuff to do, but not really. Yeah, I got in a really bad car accident in Rocky Mount.

20:41Rocky Mount? Yeah. What happened? Middle of the night, driving back from Florida to New Hampshire, and uh it was like raining but it was like we start to see like a lot of cars like slowing down and shit but we're like going real fast and so i start slowing down but then all of a sudden i realized that the ground had like frozen over and i start skidding and i can just blast the car into the back of an 18-wheeler because we weren't able to slow down and uh just totally it up that was like the only really bad car accident i ever had yeah it was just i didn't have any like actual injuries but i just hurt so bad for like days after that i was so sore i could barely move yeah honestly experience it was i don't know what the we were doing we're just in a hotel room just like laying there the whole time because our bodies hurt so bad from this car accident it was in the hospital huh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no honestly out there that was like one of the first time i really seen like real deal racism right in front of my face what are you talking about like a white dude gave us a ride from the auto body shop to the hotel he just gave us a ride what do you do what do you say and when he's giving us the ride he just goes yeah i could take you to this hotel right here but there's there's a ton of n-words there so i'm gonna drop you off at this other one a mile down the road yeah he just dropped it on us And I just like was not used to that at all.

22:17And me and my friend just like look at each other like, whoa. Like we didn't say anything because, you know, he's giving us a ride. So I figured I would just hold my tongue. But, yeah, that was why there's a lot of racism out there. Yeah, for sure. So. OK. Anything below the Dixon line. You know how I go. Yeah. Yeah. Have you been on the receiving end of that? All right. I get a crazy story. No cap. So I still have a warrant out in Mississippi for us. I still talk about it. But it's not a federal warrant. So back in the day, we did a show in Jackson, Mississippi. We ran out of the community center.

22:51My brother was in the Navy at the time, so he was stationed out there. So we had, like, his whole little unit come out there, and we did, like, jealous shots and all kind of shit. It was a nice little party. We had to pay the sheriffs to be there per said how many people. They ended up getting pissed off. Whoop-a-whoop, said we had to shut it down, got mad at us. This motherfucker was telling us that we need to tell everybody this person. I was like, nah, y 'all paid the police and be here, so y 'all tell them this person. We're leaving. We were trying to count money and go. And he ended up catching an attitude and said some dumb shit like, take a Yankee ass back up north.

23:24I'm like, bitch, I'm from North Carolina. I live below Dixie Line, you're geographically illiterate. He got mad and was like coming at me. I turned around and I woke up. He had shot me in the back with a taser gun. Oh, what? Yeah, this is in Mississippi. you um so what'd that do you just like collapse yeah i just woke up right on the ground bro and that motherfucker had his foot on me put his motherfucking uh tasers out goddamn hog tied me they put me in the back of shit they beat my ass too what the fuck they hog tied you and beat your ass and then what oh because i talk shit and especially because i was getting in trouble with the law when i was younger too so i used to talk shit all the time especially when it was like what does this tattoo mean what does that to me this is me mama this is me grandma you know shit I was just rambunctious, rebellious, right?

24:08So with them in Mississippi, it was different. I tried to talk some shit to that motherfucker, that bitch, open that door and hit me with that motherfucker stick. I shut the hell up. I swear to God. It was different. Wow. Yeah, as soon as I made Bond, I ain't never went back. I still got out there. Wow. That's crazy. Fuck Mississippi. Goddamn. Still lay.

24:28So what are you trying to do with the content shit going forward? I'm just trying to go up. Adam, I ain't going to lie to you, man. I'm just trying to go up, man. I'm trying to get with Aiden Ross, man, and do some brand risk deals with him. Oh, you want to fight somebody? Yeah. Who do you want to fight? Whoever, man. If it pays the bills, bro, I'll whip my ass. I'll get my ass whooped doing it. You think you got a squabble or what? I got a squabble. You got any boxing training? Yeah, I got a streak fight training. Okay. I got a little bit in it. I can get it right. No, I can see it. Yeah. Yeah, but shit, so.

24:59But who do you want to fight? You got anybody in mind? I always thought Patty Supreme. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do, Paddy. Pause. Definitely pause. Yeah. I know Paddy, but I don't even know if he's doing the boxing shit. Honestly, I haven't heard anything about him in so long. Yeah. Yeah. I went to Florida and watched him box in Boonk Gang. No. Did you ever box Bergen? Nah. I'm not, man. I don't think I got a future in the boxing game. Now, if you really fucking thought about it, you really fucking thought about it, right? Uh-huh. You really put your mind to it. ate right did good worked out got in safe for you wouldn't do it i just think like even if i really gave fighting my all it's just not really it's not fighting yeah no it's not really and also like when i was training for that fight too it was just it shocked me how much it took why'd you do it then money but uh it shocked me how much it took my focus away from the actual podcast okay thing you know like it just really was turning you up a little bit right huh got some attention to you turn you up a little bit it was fun for a little bit but it's just overall probably not a good use of my time but you know yeah yeah yeah you're gonna spend the block on the boxing gotcha for sure um all right so uh what what else uh do you want the people to know shit man um my name is cuz bro i'm from the south from during north carolina you know I feel like we're the biggest in the city and we can say that for shit show.

26:34We got DJ Cutter, the biggest DJ in North Carolina. We got Tristan Reese, the biggest upcoming artist in North Carolina. You get what I'm saying? TJ the barber. He just cut Finesse, the celebrity barber. He just cut Finesse two times. Biggest barber in NC. We're just trying to go for the biggest. Right. you know and we're just trying to uh bring everybody together at the same time and show them how to do content make money off of it do it the right way i like it hell yeah man uh anybody you'd like to thank god first shout out god shout out god shout out god shout out to the team shout out to hugo the biggest comedian by the way this is biggest comedian right here in NC North Carolina.

27:24He been out here in LA. How long have you been out here? Probably like 16 months, something like that. Nice. Trying to stay connected in, man. My boy Harvey J right here, the biggest content creator right there. Anything is possible. God, the Versace robe God, you know, the King of Dern for shit show. Oh, shit. Passing the torch, you know. We all just got to see North Carolina got a problem with trying to collab with each other. they're always trying to beef with each other uh huh yeah it's hard to create a community out there I feel like we're gonna change definitely alright man Cuzbra appreciate you I appreciate you gang much love you know it No Jumper coolest podcast in the world check us out on YouTube TikTok, Instagram like, comment and subscribe check out Cuzbra on all social media let's go let's do it