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39:52I think it's good, though, that he's taking a break, especially since like with the 300K a month thing. I think that's him just being caught up in the rat race of social media and him just being on his phone, checking the numbers every two seconds. So I think him kind of having that reset, maybe it'll kind of refocus him that and, you know, and he'll stop saying such stupid shit because he is early on in his local career where he's he'll be able to pivot if he does pivot. If he doesn't, then it's all bad. Do you guys feel like he has a cult following? No. No. He made it seem like that because of the backyard shows and all that, but he's not going anywhere else other than the Bay Area in America and selling out.

40:28When the first interview that he does with Blue Leg Kev, after his massive cancellation from the whole Epstein thing, and then it does 2 ,000 views, that is clear-cut proof there is no cult. Ain't no cult. There is barely a following. Because that is just like, you see that? And it's like, oh, nobody gives a fuck about shit. And that's got to be a fucked up feeling because you at least want to feel like if you jump out the window or some shit like that, that you're going to at least be elevated. But did it do that? Come back to 2K? Yeah, because I'll give you an example. Is that when the fucking Jason Love, my wife thing was first huge.

41:08I went on Bradley Martin's podcast and I think that it did like 700K or some shit like that, which it definitely would not have done that if it wasn't for the fact that i was like this is my first interview after a giant controversy right right so it's a big bump like maybe it would do 100k normally if i was going bradley martin's podcast right now i better do 100k and that should did 700k and that makes sense 7x because you're going through a big controversy right there's no one like you and there never will be from the producer bohemian rhapsody there are many legends but there is only one michael rated pg 13 in theaters april 24 he did 2 000 even less it's maybe less like maybe a lot of your fans really have like tuned out i think that's what it was it's like a lot of people off most of the bass was casual and when you're casual to somebody and they start showing saying crazy shit you're like oh yeah never mind like i had a wrong impression about it is that it's not even like you said crazy shit so much it was just gay and corny it was just like it was just lame but we didn't think you were gay and corny we thought you were kind of cool and like for the people and independent grind in bay area blah blah blah okay but you weren't uh privy to it but ricky was in the fucking no jumper group chat trying to say that we were tripping for going so hard on the russell and this is before this this is like right when the rock uh not rocky the little wing controversy rock nation signing all that right so this was like around that time period when that was going nuts and basically me and lush and everybody were just tearing him apart in the chat talking about how wacky was and ricky was like yo y 'all need to like get his back more you need to give him more of a chance it's like i appreciate that ricky was saying that but it also stands out to me that ricky would not try to make that argument now right no yeah he would not try to convince us that LaRusso is actually all right because the damage has been done and it's kind of like what could he do to undo all the bad that he's done to his career he's not Kanye he can't like exactly he can't drop an album that will make everybody remember how great he was because he never had a moment of greatness in his career aside from people sort of looking and saying well it seems like he's building a big movement right it seems like he's he's quite popular exactly his music's not for me but it seems like he's really building something great like those people are long gone and i think his lack of a catalog came to fuck him in the end because if he would have had a great catalog then people probably still would have rolled from a little bit more the entirety of his career was built on short form content on social media and yeah and i remember like it was also his undoing like back in the day like it was probably two years ago trevor said something about it trevor potter said uh he's an instagram rapper he got the most amount of hate i've ever seen him get in his life yeah a couple years ago and that that i think it was undeniable that's so undeniable yeah but he got like trevor should have got hate for saying something that was so obvious that it didn't need to be said yeah based on that no he got a bunch of hey should have got a medal for that though because now we see that he was absolutely correct because i think we love la wrestle for what we thought he stood for right and once he started showing signs that no you're actually not saying you're kind of arrogant actually you're not this humble dude from the bay like it's and you're not making good enough music to be kanye you know and then your explanation doesn't even make sense like you know i'm saying you've been riding this independent shit this whole time and they were just like no yeah you got people debating heaven sent the meaning of heaven sent now but i think what people miss is that him signing to rock nation was acceptance that this career that he's pretending to be building is not going to be able to happen on its own.

44:41He actually needs major backing in order to make this thing turn into anything and then I think like you know once Jay-Z imagine how Jay-Z feels. Stupid. He spent all these years building this stellar career and he's signed so many successful artists. He has to look at LaRussell as like the biggest L that he's ever invested in. Over and under that LaRussell has a verse or two on the new Jay-Z album. Fuck no. Not a chance. No. You don't think that'd be the last ditch effort? Hell no. All right. If this don't work out. Jay-Z was going to start distancing himself from him in a minute. Jay-Z didn't even hop on the Clips album.

45:18And he like, he considered it. He said that in the interview that he thought about it and didn't work out or whatever. But like, bro, like that, like, I mean, Jay-Z don't fuck around. Like, like look at all of his recent albums. He never does like pity verses for people. Pity verses in general are so out of, out of vogue and hip hop at this point. Yeah, it wouldn't do much, but I'm just wondering if that's one of the tactics you might pull out the bag last ditch effort. say something about LaRussell though. He should say like something. I don't know what you can say without it making it worse.

45:46You gotta say something. You should be out here getting cooked. Say something, ho. He's gotta rhyme Hussle and LaRussell. For sure. Nipsey Hussle and LaRussell. Gotta rhyme those things. For sure. Anyway, LaRussell sucks. And I was kind of like having his back for a while there, but now I'm just like yo, this guy just seems... I never had his back, but I was staying quiet with my criticisms because Because he's doing stuff good for his community. I see the little kids being inspired. So I'm like, I'm not going to be the guy. And he seems like such a positive guy. So you don't want to bring hate to a positive guy.

46:17But I think he misplayed this. Now he doesn't seem positive. Yeah, not so positive anymore. Seems annoying. All right. So basically, one of the more controversial podcasts in hip hop over the course of the past couple months has been the Ebro, Laura and Rosenberg show. Here we go. Now, one thing about what I hate about hip hop and hip hop media is the fact that, again, everybody is just so invested in judging content based on the views and, you know, viral clips. So, obviously, the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show is doing quite terribly by both of those metrics because the views are absolutely disgusting on YouTube.

46:58Abysmal. And then on top of that, like they're routinely getting cooked by the No Jumper News streams, which really insane kind of says a lot. No Jumper News. Now, I wouldn't think anybody would say it was like, you know, a top tier podcast, but it's definitely cooking them on a daily basis. 20 year vets. And as far as their viral clips, they've been, you know, entirely negative. And you could blame that on the Dracosphere, you know, using those clips to make to paint them as failures and everything like that. But I wanted us to actually watch a couple episodes of this podcast so that we could have actual legitimate conversation about what they're trying to do over there.

47:36So last night we both watched the two most recent episodes of the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show. And I'm going to assume that you guys enjoyed them approximately as much as I did, which is not a ton. It was a tough watch for me because I'm an Ebro fan because I'm a Sacramento. You know, he used to DJ back. Yeah, we don't claim E-Bro, though. No, but he used to be on 102.5 and 103.5. So I like, he shaped a lot of like how I looked at hip hop. But watching that shit, it felt so old. It made me feel older watching it. I was just like, and I know like the first episode was like the family matters type stuff.

48:14But I mean, they had like clips of them feeding their children oranges and shit. I'm like, what in the entire fuck am I watching? I ain't never seen nothing like that. That to me is like, what do you think that your fan base is serious for? Who cares? I'm a dad. I love my kid. Me too. And I would love to just come on the podcast and say, look at this cute video of what my kid just did. He picked up a book off the ground. This is hilarious. But like, what is it in your head that makes you think that the audience. You want to see the whole video. Fuck about that. It was like 46 minutes into it where they talked about nothing but like changing diapers.

48:54I was just like, who is their demo here? There was so much less substance than I was expecting there to be. Because normally when the clips go viral, it's them talking about some relatively meaty topics. But like the amount of content that was just so unbelievably boring from the two episodes. And listen, this is my thing, is that Danny from The Stop is a pretty good friend of mine. and he's somebody that I look at as a bit of an expert when it comes to podcasts. And he told me that he feels strongly that this is like the best podcast or one of the best podcasts out there. Take his credentials away.

49:29Please, right now. ASAP. Today. And I've never been a Danny from the Stop fan. Yeah, I'm sorry. And this absolutely solidifies that. That shit felt like warm milk. It just made you sleepy. I don't know what meth Danny from the Stop has been smoking. I can't give it to that. His brain not working right, but there's no chance. And you know what I feel like watching them? It feels like if I wrote a comedic sketch about an out-of-touch podcast, that's what it would be. And they feel to me like the person that probably owned the last Blockbuster. Yeah. Because I felt like they shitted on the YouTube era.

50:00They acted like it was beneath them for so many years, not thinking, why don't you just adapt to what's happening? And now they just look so lost and bumbling. And it's just, it was a hard watch. Cause I remember watching their interviews on YouTube in like 2014, you know, around there. It's like, they were pivoted into, you know, that's when the Uzi moment happened, all that type of stuff. So it's like they had their run, but yeah, they were kind of just, they come off as a little bitter. And I think that's why people weren't messing with them. And then, but you know, it stood out to me too, is that like, it felt like this is me actually watching a podcast from a bunch of like corporate woke people, which I just don't ever do yeah so when they're sort of like just ranting against israel and i'm like no i wanted to get into that i'm like oh okay this is like what you feel like you have to do if you want to be in the cool guy club and like i i just like and then uh there was other things that really stood out to me too um like the the sort of like anti-man type stuff like when they're talking about how stupid boys are and how it's so much better to have a daughter because men are idiots and it's I don't listen to any content creators who take on this sort of like all production women all the time mentality.

51:19And even like Laura, who as I'm watching it, cause I don't think I've ever seen her ever on. I've never watched anything from her before, besides maybe some clips here and there or whatever. But like she did the thing that you would think that somebody with this many years in the game wouldn't do, which is like Ebro and Rosenberg are having the conversation about, how men are fixers when it comes to problems in relationships and this is like such a tired conversation that it feels like it shouldn't even have to happen where you know me and my wife have argued about this a million times where she'll sit there and she'll be ranting about how bad things are in some specific aspect of her life and i'll sit there and start saying well maybe you should try this maybe you should do that and she gets pissed because she's like i just want somebody to listen to me i don't want somebody to try to fix the problem right now i just want to live with this or whatever and so ebro and rosenberg are having that conversation which again is not a conversation that anybody really needs to have on a podcast in 2026 and she said the thing that is like the stereotype of why women suck at podcasting and thinking which is that she said i mean i mean serious because she goes well i don't i don't like how you guys generalize like men are just one way and women are just one other way and it's like what are you talking about the Discussation is about generalities when it comes to men and women, because men and women are different.

52:41It's like the thing where if you tell a woman and I'm stereotyping, but if you tell a woman like, hey, you know, 90 percent of this sort of person does this thing. And they'll say, well, I know somebody who does that. Like if you say trans people commit suicide at a higher rate. Right. And then just say, well, I know a bunch of trans people and none of them have committed suicide. They're alive. They're all 100 years old. Oh, OK. Wow. You really just debunked my whole fucking argument here. but she did that and they didn't even really have like the the oomph to like push back on it because it's like you know if a person is willing to say something so stupid on a podcast you need somebody sitting there who's going to be willing like to actually check them yeah the other thing that she said that really pissed me off is like they're they're kind of talking about uh you know islam's reputation for being a genocidal death cult which obviously that's i feel as well and then she says well look at the priests look at the priests the priests were molesting children And it's like, okay, that is fair that the Catholic church did have a real serious problem for a period of time with the priest molesting children.

53:41But that doesn't change the fact that if you like poll Palestinians, like 90 % of them will tell you that they feel like Jews need to be wiped off the face of the earth. Like this is not, you can't compare one problem that admittedly is absolutely disgusting and an institutional problem. And clearly there's something deeply wrong with the Catholic church that this was allowed to go on for so long. You can't compare that to actually commonly held belief by like a huge percentage of the adherence to this religion. Like terrorists. Obviously, America's version of Islam is a lot more toothless than the rest of the world.

54:16Right. But like to act like Israel doesn't have a reason to be concerned about their neighbors is just like mind blowing. And I love the fact that Rosenberg gets to play the role of the cuck where he has to just sit here and just allow it on Israel because he knows it's untenable for him to take any pro Israel positions. Although I don't know that he's even like conscious of the fact that that has been done to him. No, I think he's conscious of the opposite is I know that I'm gaining, you know, being the favorite Jewish guy speaking against the people. I can't I can't believe this is the face of, you know, being Jewish now and stuff.

54:47But it's just like if you're going to have that conversation, it's just like you got to go deeper in. You can't go Israel bad and just that, which I have no issue with people saying Israel bad. They do a lot of bad things. They're massively fucked up in a lot of ways. You know, they're talking about them bombing Lebanon and, you know, Israel's saying, well, we're bombing Lebanon because we're going after Hezbollah, you know, and it's like you could go into, you know, hey, yeah, that's a valid thing. But also they're going a little too far. That's kind of the conversation that they're having is, is this too far?

55:15Are these accurate strikes, all that type of stuff. But just Trump bad, Trump like Israel, Israel bad. It's just like there's a million people doing that on TikTok, YouTube, everything. So it's just like, yeah, it was kind of like that was another pod. I watched both of them on 1.75 speed and just sped through them. It was so out of touch. It was just like I just didn't know who the audience was that they was talking to. And I like, you know, I'm in the same age bracket as them. But it's just that shit felt I walked away from watching that shit feeling older. Had me thinking, is that what the radio is like where they just kind of said there's so much airtime where you just end up talking about just like your kids and your family when there's not like the topics at hand?

55:55But then it's also, it's an hour a day, which is so short. And as a person who, like, when we do the Tuesday show, we're sitting there for five hours. Today, we're going to do two hours. And I consider that a pretty breezy podcast. It's like, you have an hour out of the day and you're just like skimming through topics and like tacking on like long winded conversations about the TV shows that you're watching. Like, that's one issue I have at Rosenberg. How much fucking TV are you watching? Exactly. He was talking about all types of seasons and shit. He was talking about so many shows I never even heard of.

56:23You know what it made me feel like? though it felt like they were a radio show parading as a podcast yeah that's what i'm saying when they were sitting there like sending your voice notes that's like what people call it in it's like they're they're stuck in a time warp it's like motherfucking we're 2026 and that is the one thing that i feel like is good about it is that the structure that they have kind of allows it to feel like maybe it's moving at a decent pace right you know where it's like i understand that from danny from the stuff's perspective like a three-hour joe budden podcast probably feels like kind of a slog fest in comparison to watching this where it's an hour and you kind of know that any topic is probably going to be done in like 10 minutes but ultimately like and hey maybe it's largely due to the clips that i was clicking on and there hasn't necessarily i mean rap is not in a great place and maybe there's not that much interest and shit to talk about from my perspective though it just really i don't know who this is supposed to appeal to and i don't really think that their audience is going to grow given the current content.

57:23And it kind of felt like even their sponsors were old. Like their sponsors was talking about shit promoting gut health and shit. It was like boner pills and shit like that. It's like, okay, that's clearly the audience that they're targeting. What fuck is that want to regulate their stomach? What do you think about Ebro pretty much blaming the numbers on saying, well, we went against Drake and academics and when you go against Drake and academics and the algorithm, it's unfavorable to you. He said that. No, no, there's no excuse for that. I feel like Ebro would be better just doing a show by himself.

57:50I don't feel like he's doing himself any favors. I think Rosenberg is by far the best part of the podcast. Do you? I think they can drop Laura. Yeah, Laura doesn't really. I mean, she adds a bit of the Nadeska factor of like, oh, okay, there's a woman in the room, which is sometimes useful in case you need somebody to not understand statistics. But when she's saying, don't generalize women like that, it's just like, okay, get out of here. But the Catholic community, like what? But like, I don't know, man. I feel like Rosenberg is smarter than everybody else on the podcast he might be like extremely uncool which he doesn't seem to really be aware of because from a different podcast today i watched the clip of him speaking about drake and academics and there was a couple of things that he said that really felt pretty far removed from reality number one he said that drake doesn't know how to put an outfit together and that he rosenberg in a classroom of sodas most stay quiet then there's mr pib sweet cherry bold outbursts the kind of flavor that gets attention bold kick of cherry hey yo mr pib outdresses drake man all the time i i i screen recorded this and sent it to drake immediately and just said what the fuck that's funny because that to me really like think about how much heavy lifting Rosenberg has to do to pull off an outfit in general and like I feel like I've like is Drake like I don't know how much attention is is he actually paying to Drake's outfits like Drake who clearly has enough money to afford any level of stylist that he wants do you remember that image of like what his closet looks like yeah it's like a basketball court yeah it's literally like a retail store Rosenberg thinks he is outdressing Drake just shows how delusional know he is you need a hater in the room you need somebody who's willing to push back you look dusty as fuck shut up yeah eddie was hating on nick caddy like he was talking about like when i seen that i was like man fuck this but then it's one of those things where he takes the jab and he goes but you know he does have a great broadcasting i'd love to have that career it's like don't walk it back instantly i need that bro but you ain't gonna hate on the homie though like don't even like when i seen that i was i think it was a little fair because they were saying pretty much uh you know they're talking about kanye right and they're talking about musical careers and And they're like, you know, I love Gigolo, but you know.

1:00:06But anybody who knows Nick Cannon knows that's not his. No, for sure. You know what I'm saying? He's much more known for producing. So he has one of the longest running. It was unfair comparison. But for him to try to sit on him, I was like, oh, hell. You know what really stood out to me is that Rosenberg said, and Laura just immediately agrees with him, which is astounding. He said that academics makes$30 million a year from streaming, which I don't know if he's making. I ain't trying to pocket watch. He's doing well for himself. I do essentially the same thing that academics is doing. And that I was astounded when I heard that.

1:00:41So they think academics is making like$3 million a month from YouTube and kick. And I just don't like, I don't know where they could have possibly gotten that idea because if that was true, then I feel like their podcast would probably be making a couple million dollars a year, which I feel like that is clearly not the case. but like when i heard that and no shots at act at all but it's like i actually think that the real uh number would probably be more like 10 of that which i know from my perspective which is still 3 million a month i would love that yeah it's amazing for sure like but but just the idea that like him streaming like maybe 30 hours a week or 20 hours a week or whatever that that's making 30 million dollars a month yeah shows how disconnected they are but people think that streaming is magic right like okay and i'll give you an example that doesn't involve me but blue blue face at one point posted a screenshot showing that uh his twitch money that he had earned and i forget the exact number of hours but it was something like it was like 20 grand but it was I remember that.

1:01:54It was like 72 hours of streaming total, which obviously if you're streaming 40 hours a week or slightly less, that would mean that you - Yeah, like two weeks of streaming. So like 10 grand a month or a week, which would be pretty impressive. But it's so far away from being$3 million a month. Like I don't understand like how they could be that out of touch since they stream their content as well. I think they're just - Oh, go ahead, go ahead. I think maybe they're trying to maybe like paint, like act like as this big conglomerate now like they used to be like on high 97 maybe they're trying to paint him as like he's the corporation and because we go against him that's why our shit is failing normally you try to act like your ops make less money yeah i think they're just looking at it like uh they're kind of like a boxing fan thinking all boxers make canelo money you know what i mean it's like you know the top of the top kyson that's you know breaking in the money you know the plaque boy maxes the xqcs the you know all these guys are but you trickle down just a one tier under them and the money falls off a way yeah so it's just like i think they're just looking at it as like streaming this boom of streaming and anybody who's popular and streaming and stays relevant in the clips and stuff they must be just killing it because okay that 30 million dollar a year stat i would be more likely to say that that is like what i would think that somebody like kai sanat when he's like at the peak of his for sure the height of it yeah because okay that's actually pretty close to accurate because like from the sub revenue i think at a certain point it was like kai sanat was making like a million dollars a month yeah from subs so this is like the most subs person on the internet making a million dollars a month but still somehow academics is making three times that from what question mark question mark i don't really understand like how they could have been led to believe the highest i've ever seen was like five to seven million for kai sanat in a month or something like that reportedly you know i'm sure it might you know see that and i don't think ak streams that's the biggest guy in the world i don't think ak streams as much as kai sanat used to right because kai used to be on there like all day every month long stream right and ak will have like maybe 10 000 viewers on youtube and then maybe like a couple thousand more on kick and like really that's like pretty small in comparison to somebody like Kai Sinai, who I'm pretty sure was sitting there with like 30 ,000 like on an average day.

1:04:12Shit, he had LeBron on the stream. There's like fucking 500K watching him. You know, it's like. I still can't believe he walked away from that. Who, LeBron? Kai. Oh, Kai. He was making so much bread. I've seen some good explanations kind of that, like your whole life being on camera and just not be able to, you know. Oh, let's check in about our fucking weight loss journey. How are you guys doing with all this? I had a little bit of a tough weekend. I'm not going to lie. You ate the bread. I ate the bread. I think I only lost like two pounds. I thought I was going to lose a lot more. I was like super motivated, but I've been tracking the calories, trying to do all that thing.

1:04:43But yeah, I had to drive to Sacramento this past weekend on a quick turnaround. And I definitely ate like three slices of pizza. Did you get some Jim boys? No, I don't fuck with Jim boys. You don't fuck with Jim boys? Fuck my stomach up, bro. Have you ever been to Jim boys in Sacramento? That's my stomach up. We got to take him to Sacramento, but you don't fuck with Jim boys. Yeah, I'll go with y 'all, but I'm not messing with you. That's the best tacos ever. You see the taco burger joint? I don't eat tacos that far north for sure. Whoa. I don't trust any Mexican who's so curious that he feels the need to drive seven hours north.

1:05:09Jimboys is like a hood staple. I can't believe you don't like Jimboys. Yeah, it's just too greasy. They put Parmesan cheese on the shelves. My week wasn't that good either. I don't know how much weight I've lost. I'll weigh myself after I get off because I left my scale up here, but it wasn't the greatest. I've been starving myself since last night because I thought we were weighing in. I didn't want to weigh more or weigh the same. I'm not going to lie. I'm sitting there looking, about to make breakfast, and I'm just like, am I really? I'm skipping breakfast. I'm going to eat two eggs so that I don't have to, so I can be worried about the way.

1:05:40Listen, I did flawless all week until Friday night. I go out to eat with my girl. We go to this restaurant, Alba, in Hollywood or whatever. And it was amazing. It looked great. It was fantastic. What'd you get? You know, we got a bunch. I can't even. Everything. I've seen the lamb chops. The lamb chops. Did you even ask AI, should you do it? Are you just taking pictures? no picture of the menu that time you just went in and that's the problem is that on one hand okay so like over the course of the weekend too my wife was helping me with like you know gearing up for uh you know meal prepping for myself and stuff which is a big part of this whole thing is that she's she's a really good cook and so she's helping me how did that go by the way you feel it's good you know i'm so like i can make the rice i can make the chicken i can make the steak now it's just really more of an issue of me like getting home on a sunday night and choosing to do that and meal prep for the next couple days instead of just sitting on my ass and then being like whatever.

1:06:37I'm going to work on your phone. Give me some goop. That's the thing I always fall into. Whenever I meal prep, if I do it on Sunday, right around Wednesday that microwave in the food seems very unappealing to me. Because it's a little grosser. Yeah, for sure. It just seems drier. It just seems like I'd rather cook every two or three days. Yeah, I like cooking so I just be cooking damn near every day. Yeah, that's the thing about me is that then it's like i want to play poker i want to do cardio or i want to watch some shit on youtube which i have to like make that more of my part of my whole thing but okay that's the thing too is that my girl was complaining about me not taking her on enough dates so i'm trying to take her on like like like every other friday i'm trying to go on a date you guys don't have date night like already in the schedule well we're 10 years into our relationship and we're just now instituting it so no historically no no it was like number two out of like fucking 50 something i'm like golly this dude fucking really committed no i'm gonna do 22 dates in 2026 okay that's what it was so this was date number three but then what's fucked up too though is it's like sunday morning me her and the kid go to the polo lounge at the beverly hills hotel and apparently that doesn't count as a date even though it's 500 leaving my wallet going into paying for this date and apparently it doesn't count as a date we gotta draw up a contract we gotta figure out the parameters of what a date But she said that it's because she booked it when she booked it months ago, because I guess it's really hard to get a reservation that she booked it months ago so that she could just go out to brunch with her friend.

1:08:04And then her friend ended up being out of town or whatever. So we ended up going with a default date. If I'm paying, it's a goddamn date. It's subbed in. It's not a day. He wasn't even first choice for the day. But I was let down also by the polo lounge. Like I've previously had good experiences there, but when I went there, I was just kind of let down like, bro, this is like over. Right. It's just like for how much it costs, it's like everything was pretty mid. It was not going to lie. Yeah. Do you feel like they're flying off the name? It's at the Beverly Hills Hotel for people who don't know.

1:08:34And it's like it's extremely expensive and everything about it is really, really nice. But like actually, when I really thought about the food, I was like, oh, this food is pretty whatever. It was just meh. As we get older, as our just taste buds changing, because I feel like a lot of restaurants I go to now, I'm like, damn near could cook a steak better than this. you know i could do something you know i could do it up at home when you leave la and new york it's like you realize that the food is deplorable everywhere else in america like you go on postmates even in fucking miami like i know miami has nice restaurants and stuff but i'm ordering like burgers and shit off of postmates in miami and i'm like bro like all of america like i've just trained myself to expect a certain degree of quality in food and there's just no there's nothing encouraging a local food vendor to make their food that much better in most of america because they're competing against a bunch of other places where the food also fucking sucks and out here it's like just smash burgers alone it's like you just you're up against the the wall if you want to be a smash burger spot you just really have to compete right and it's just like it's it's like the competition in the nba whereas like if you go to boise idaho the competition for food on postmates is just like even when i go to santa clarita and i'm looking at postmates it's like oh this is dark there's like Domino's and shit.

1:09:50Yeah. You might have to get CPK because everything sucks. Especially after a certain time. Don't let them start closing and stuff. The good stuff closes and you're stuck with some trash for sure. This is what we cannot do, gentlemen, for the weight loss challenge. We can't just fuck this off. Like this is the shit that we came in on. We got, we got, somebody got to lose some weight. I think the problem is there's nothing at stake. We got to shave our head or you got to shave the beard off. Like something like that. It's got to be something like that. That's what I was thinking. Shaving the beard?

1:10:16Whoever's the lowest has to shave their beard? This is going to look so funny if I'm sitting here with no beard. I look like a deer in the face. I don't look like it. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. There's got to be something at stake to really motivate us to where we don't look like weirdos. We've got to be incentivized. Shave our eyebrows off. I don't know. It's got to be something crazy. I like that, though, because I do feel like, yeah. It's not enough at stake. Yeah. If you had to cut that beard off, you would be in that gym. Because, okay. Skipping the bread. Yeah, no, but I shaved my head for the fight.

1:10:43I didn't go to the skin, but it was still pretty disgusting. you know for sure i'm happy to be having my hair back at this point like i've never been bald so that would be big i'm never getting my hair back my shit i lost my shit like yeah that's why i was like dope boys are bald they don't count so you gotta shave the beard i have to come up off the beard though shit you're gonna look like a minecraft character that's gonna be funny at least the essays will leave me alone i think i'm one of them that's all good no but i mean because i'm trying to think like what would be enough to make me not pig out going out to eat on a friday night and that's what i was trying to think and it's probably money like i don't even really care about shaving my head that much.

1:11:15What about your beard? You don't care about shaving your beard either? I don't want to, but also that would just be like, I would look kind of ugly for like a week. You know, it's like a week. All right, so we can make some money. What's that? What's the pot? What are we going to put in the pot? I think your guys' pot is probably a little bit bigger than mine. So, you know, that's why I wasn't going to go the money route. I ain't never been on Wild N. I don't want to compete against you guys because I feel like it's so unfair and it would be so hard for us to like grade our weight loss against each other when you weigh like almost twice well that's not that we're doing the percentage from the beginning because the percentage yeah because if i lose 28 the same as if you lose 20 i think that's my goal is to lose 20 pounds okay so i feel like that's kind of like a good place to base it on is to just say but then that's kind of fucked up too because it's like i know that if i fast for a day before the weigh-in right that i could at least lose three pounds yeah that if i really dehydrate myself that I could probably lose another couple pounds.

1:12:10I saw a YouTuber lose 10 pounds from just like doing cardio and like not drinking water for like a day before I was waiting. That's exactly what I'm doing. I want us to find these healthy habits so it can be something that we take on for the rest of our lives. But I do feel like we do need to be properly. No, I'm going to do the healthy stuff. I'm doing the calories. I'm counting. I'm making sure I hit my calories, my proteins, all that stuff. But that week, two weeks before it's yeah, we're going starvation mode for sure. I'm a competitive guy. I just don't have dandy over here yeah for sure i don't have it in me to be sitting in a nice restaurant with like a big fucking bowl of pasta in front of me and like my my wife i see her doing it that she eats and she eats i don't know like you know like one scooping of it insane and then i eat the other six scoops of it like i just can't stop and then oh bro you want to know i'm this is like me confessing my sins because this is so bad this is really fucked up but so she ordered a dessert she ordered the cannolis right so they bring out some really nice cannolis there's three cannolis she eats one i said i wasn't gonna eat any i ate the other two i know you did i know when he told us he was going to do i was like he gonna eat that bread i'm glad i'm like yeah this is him sabotaging himself it's gonna be easy competition for us this is amazing for you but she gets way worse i did not confess this to you guys i'm way worse so then we go for a walk afterwards because it was a little bit of an early dinner so we would have enough time to go for like an hour walk or whatever which is you know lovely to do that with your spouse is that a date yeah just attack that onto the date and so we go for this walk and what so she says at some point i gotta go to the bathroom and there's like a shopping plaza that has like a bathroom in it i say let's go there Guess what's across from the bathroom is Van Lewin's ice cream, which has my all time in my life favorite flavor of ice cream, black cherry chip.

1:14:07It is so good. And I mean, on the bright side, I only got one scoop. Did you get a waffle cone? I didn't get a cone. No. I'm more of a cup guy. So she comes out the bathroom, you sitting there with ice cream. I told her I was going to do this before she actually went to the bathroom. But like, I mean, just the fact that I did that. Yeah. When the walk is supposed to be like, oh, I'm going to get my metabolism moving, burn off a couple hundred calories. That's probably really optimistic. But like, you know, and then somehow it ends with me eating a big scoop of ice cream. But I will say that the next day, Saturday, because I had gorged myself so much the day before that I really, really only ate one meal, which that seemed pretty good.

1:14:49And I did that too. I tried to do the whole one meal a day thing. I was like, I'm just going to do one meal. But then by the time I got to that one meal, that one meal was a... Jesus. And I will say that even after I pigged out, because yesterday the polo lounge, again, pigged out, ate way too much. But my weight right now is kind of basically where it was when we started this whole thing. So, okay, today my problem is that I'm going to the casino to play at the Hustler Casino, which people watching this live, you could probably go watch that if you want. but um they have food but i have to like make sure i think every time i've ever gone i got the burger and fries when i see it right there the salmon with the vegetables right you're gonna go salmon and fish just stay away from the bread just do protein just try to do protein and vegetables if you do a burger just do it with the lettuce wrap oh my god while you're playing poker touching his car yeah i'm not gonna lie one quarter pounder so far you know i ate one quarter i broke down you know i need about 1500 calories so i'm like it's late at night i said quarter pounder no fries i got two egg rolls i ate two egg rolls from uh i got three but i only ate two of them where were you at so you ordered it i assume i picked it up in the drive-thru okay i felt like McDonnell's.

1:16:04Oh God. Okay. No, I felt like Clav. He's always Burger Max in and I'm like, he's in shape. You know, I seen him eat, eat a quarter pounder, no cheese, but you know, I need some cheese. I got, I ate two egg rolls, four mozzarella sticks and an Oreo cookie shake. Where was this? Jack in the box. They have way too many options at this point. I'm like, I've been trying to cook, but sometimes I'm like getting home at 11 o 'clock. I'm like, I'm not about to fucking cook a meal right now. I'm so glad that I confessed to my sins and that you guys had ones that were like, but i did it at places that i'm just not like literally in the in the form of the polo lines like i can't go there like you have to make an appointment like fucking months in advance or whatever and that other restaurant i mean i'm just not gonna go do that also as i'm saying this i'm thinking wow that's a thousand dollars worth of food in one week yeah they get into that bag i better start streaming like i gotta go to the academic car you capitalist pig a thousand for two meals is crazy yeah that's way too much but i mean i don't know that's like that's just kind of a curse to me like oh shit like i gotta i gotta tell her like yo these dates i gotta i gotta go in with a plan like i can't go to an italian restaurant yeah you're gonna lose it every time you're gonna do lasagna or pasta and that's the devil right we gotta have a vegan restaurant date now you gotta tell lena like you know we're gonna be a steak house because you could do steak and like vegetables and you'll be good and you know what that's the thing that fucked me up too with uh going to um the uh the polo lounge is that it's like a fixed menu right so the first thing they bring out is like crab and avocado toast and this is another reason i was annoyed by the polo lounge is that the service was kind of shit like it was kind of really it was taking too long for everything to come out we're in there for two hours eating breakfast charging all that money and they got all the fancy places are kind of ass like that i eat that that shit and then i have enough time to like really like gauge how full i am before they bring my uh main course out and i'm really just kind of realizing like bro that that was enough like if i if i can stop now trying to be healthy like i could just keep going yeah like i could have ate that and i would have been hungry like you know three four hours later or whatever like a normal person and that's my problem is that sometimes i go out to eat with normal people and i see the way they eat and i realize like this is the the vast gulf between me and them is that i have to eat everything and oh my five-year-old daughter didn't finish her pancakes give me that dad text dad text tack on extra 400 calories worth of pancakes is lena the type where you could tell her lena don't let me go crazy and she'll be like adam slap your hand away from the bread i feel like she's gonna let you eat the problem with her is that throughout her life she has had an eating disorder like she just has a hard time like with her weight or whatever but and hopefully she doesn't know that I'm saying this but she's been on the shot for a couple years now so she's chilling she don't gotta worry about it because she literally like cannot eat enough to fill herself up to the point where she's gonna get fat yeah right so this is why like I really probably should be on that shit but here I am in this 90 day challenge for me it's like honestly if I can't get to the losing 20 pounds without the shot throughout this I'm probably going to the shot I was going to say.

1:19:14You're going to the shot. If we all fail, we're all going to get the shot. Yeah, we're going to be heavier than we started. Yeah, that would be the next couple months of that. Before and before. It's worse. We're going to bring in the doctor and say, come on, doc. Man, give us the needle. Yeah. That's crazy for me because I had weight loss surgery. If I got to get the needle too, there's a problem in this stomach. The thing about the needle though is that it's like there's no negative side effects really. And it seems like it helps people in a lot of other ways as well. No, I think it like promotes you starving yourself because you'll forget to eat.

1:19:40I did Olympic before. And you'll just literally be walking around all day. and sometimes you'll get a mean case of the shits. It can be bad. I'm down for all that. And then when you get off of it, oh, you're going to eat every, it's like your brain is just like. I mean, the thing about Clav is that above all else, when you really listen to him, is like I believe that his look smaxing philosophy, the only 90 % of it is be lean and use drugs to get there. Nothing else really matters to him. Like the working out, eh, you can't take it or leave it. cardio you don't give a fuck uh the bone smashing stuff i think that's like really intended to go viral the jaw surgery is like a meme you know it's like i think that really like ultimately his whole philosophy and that's why he makes so much sense in this day and age is that he's the glp1 guy yeah how about this okay how about happy medium what if we get to week six and if we haven't lost enough weight we all get on the needle i got it in my fridge right because if we get to the sixth week and we ain't losing no way now we letting the fans so long that i'm like starting to wonder if it's still good bro there's people dming me in the request still yo man i got the redda i got the it's better than ozempic i got it for you i can say sorry man i said i wouldn't do it people who were slinging ketamine and lean a couple of years ago are slinging reddit yeah they got the reddit i go chat i go is reddit safe they go not approved yet, but better than Ozepic.

1:21:07I go, well, maybe. You never know. So if you haven't lost 10 by the sixth week, if you haven't lost 20, and if I haven't lost 30, we getting that juice. We getting on the juice. Alright, fuck it. We're gonna do it. We just started off good, though, with the height. We were gonna go with the height. They don't even know about the height. They don't know that Moose Man's boot fell apart. For real. And I said, I'm on my David Goggin shit. I'm not turning back. But thank God, Ralphie did. Ralphie the dog. Because my foot was starting to hurt, for sure. I didn't know if I was gonna make it i wasn't gonna hoe out like i would have passed out before but i was struggling you basically went the entire distance that we were gonna go we just like turned around like about at the halfway point of the whole thing i'm gonna be real though it was kind of dope like it made me realize that like everybody i've ever worked out with in my entire life was either at like basically the same fitness level or better than me right and this was my first time like really working out with two dudes who were like in much worse shape than we are so i mean and you were really struggling but you were fighting through it hella hard but you're in a lot better shape than i think you understand yeah yeah because that wasn't easy like we going up like hills and stuff i didn't even see him break a sweat yeah the whole time and the only time he was stopping was because of me for real you wasn't really even stopping but i've also done that exact workout probably like 50 times yeah but it's still you you built up that yeah for sure i was just like i was in there looking at like this is adam goggins no yeah it was definitely killing me but it's just like i'm kind of just one of those dudes where it's like i'm never gonna let you know that it's killing me like i'm gonna pass out before i'm like yo let's slow down guys like i gotta stick with the pad what do you think of the hike though because i feel like there was like some baddies i was kind of proud of my local hike a couple of them i was like it was when i looked at she gave me the eyes too but i didn't have the breath to go holla what's up bitch what's your life don't boy you ever watch what are some of your interests never mind i want to eat you out i love adam's breakdown He goes, yeah, the weekday, they're pretty bad.

1:23:01He's like looking at girls. He goes, the weekend, BBLs, man. BBLs. I go, I'm coming back on the weekend then, man. For real, there's bad bitches in there. But it's honestly like too crowded on a Saturday. It's kind of annoying. I feel like we should stream the next hike that we do. We just got to go somewhere else. We just got to find a good hike. Well, but I mean, I don't know. Maybe if you got that neon backpack, it'd be all right. But then who's putting that backpack on for the hike? I'm not putting it on. I'm not wearing it. That came out the shirt quick. I took the Edgars on a little baby hike on the way to go do cardio with Blueface that time.

1:23:31They were falling down. No. He wasn't there, actually. But, yeah, I mean, Mikey's in, like, really, really good shape. Yeah, Mikey's in good shape. He's probably in the best shape of the office, would you say? Yeah, probably. Yeah, Mikey is in good shape. Yeah, we should fuck Mikey. You got to stop saying, you know, people think I'm gay. People think I am gay because of you. He said it straight to you. Let's talk about that. To be fair, it's your own homie. first of all you're on people first of all I don't know I'm scared to you you see I've been trying to hit this as masculine as possible I feel like I wanted to bring a gutted in how would David Goggin say that you gotta hit like Popeye and shit yo that shit went like low-key viral like yo cause I know Wack said the shit that he said cause the ladies that he was with or whatever I was just like damn and you're selling people I'm bouncing off your meat yeah I don't know why I was saying that I'm so used to just taking shit and just making him gay as fuck to try to make Wack uncomfortable but wait so So yeah, Wax Hall argument basically was like, oh, Doughboy, because there was that screenshot that like you gave me that was basically like you kind of taking your pants off.

1:24:33You're all hunched over. You're like, not really looking that great on the side of the table. And, you know, I'm just sort of sitting there laughing. And that was enough for Wax to like basically, it was like the same accusation that they say about like Madea and the dressers. Humiliation ritual. Humiliation ritual. The feminization of a black man. I've gotten so many people concerned calling me like, don't be over there doing all that. Don't let him turn you out. I'm like, man, relax. Like, I know how to get people to click on a picture. And really, if y 'all would have watched the video, you would have known what we was doing it for.

1:25:03But I understand there was going to be that outrage. But I didn't know it was going to be like that. Yeah. And it's so funny to hear Wack like Lexi, like, hey, Doughboy, now that you're up there, don't let him do that. And he like sex plays Wack on every episode of the Adam and Wack show. It's like, what are you saying? And yeah, obviously Adam, I mean, whack pushes back, but it's like, you weren't just like happy go lucky when he's saying crazy shit either. I was just sitting there like, man, I thought it was a fun thing. I thought it was a good splash to make, but shit, I got cooked for that.

1:25:27I got cooked for the blackface shit. Yeah. You're on a roll right now. They're calling you like the new Brandon in some way. I don't know if you've said anything this episode that could really get you dragged. No. Yeah. We got to find something for sure. Side note, fun fact. Let me tell y 'all some true story of what happened over the weekend. Sure. Because of this podcast as well, I lost a real relationship over a hypothetical conversation. The blackface conversation. No, not that. That wasn't it. So it was a hypothetical conversation. Because you know when I first came on the show, I was like, yo, I want to do adult films.

1:26:02Oh, where's the fat guys? Right, right, right. I want to do that, right? And I was serious about that. So the lady I was dealing with, you know what I'm saying? So I was talking to her. We were just having a hypothetical conversation. And I was just like, look, man. And if he ever gave me the shot to do it and I could do it, I would do it. She was like, well, that would be the end of our relationship. I was like, if I got a chance to do something that I wanted to do my whole life, you're going to tell me that I can't be in a relationship with you. She was like, no, you couldn't. And this is a girl you've been talking to for how long?

1:26:26Maybe four or five months. Nothing too crazy. And so then I was just like, well, what if he offered me$2.5 million to do it? More money isn't everything. I was like, okay, well, now you are a ridiculous human being. So I was like, oh, you're stupid. So I'm just like, no, I would absolutely. So then it turned into, I was like, listen, If I get the opportunity to do it, I'm going to do it. She was like, well, then we just need to end this right now. And I was just like, so now I'm backstage. That sounds like a hypothetical situation that almost certainly never happened. But no, I'm going to do it one day.

1:26:54I'm going to do adult films. Even if it's amateur. Even if I start my own OnlyFans. Exactly, yeah. I will, just because it's just something where I never felt like there was representation. It's just one of those bucket list things that I want to do. But even with her, it's not like I want to step out the relationship and just go, it's just this is something that I want to do. And she was just not having it. What if Adam said, you know, Doughboy, it may be another time, but your girl is bad as hell. I'm going to give her$2.5 million to shoot. Are you going to allow her to do that? Everybody get$2.5 million.

1:27:21Go get that money. Everybody in the chat. Let's take the money away and say she brought this convo to you and just, you know, this has been my dream, Doughboy. I'm cool with it, but I'm just a little bit more open-minded. I'm not tripping, like, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, especially if that's something that I've always wanted to do. Like, I've wanted to. Bucket list shit. You've been horny for a long time. Like, you're being selfish. which like let me get this off my problem with it is just that it's like but it really draws attention to how monogamy just has a grip on people's minds it does to the point where even this mega hypothetical scenario that is not taking place or whatever is still like just the idea of it is so deeply offensive to this woman that she has to act out like that enough to break you guys up it's a hypothetical but also it's like that's on you as well doughboy not understanding women it's like just do the porn and show her the 2.5 million don't ask the hypothetical you gotta ask for forgiveness not permission exactly yeah but if you if you said that like hey all right so i did porn yesterday but also i got us flights to turks like cocks her fist back in the car okay yeah i'll go on the vacay so yeah so the one thing i thought that i had going is no longer yeah wow Wow.

1:28:38Whatever. I mean, but I don't want to lie, though, because if I really, if you really came to me, it was like, all right, though, you said it. I'm lying all day. I'm lying all day. Wasn't she also upset about the fact that you said that you weren't in a relationship? Oh, she was pissed about that, too. Yeah. I was just like, hey, man, just let me just do my thing. What's your justification for saying that? Because it's not part of my public persona. Like, I'm the fun guy. I'm happy. But trust me, I got the text message. She was like, oh, really? You're single? I'm like, come on, babe. Don't trip.

1:29:04I think it's even an issue being in the scene and even having your partner like paying attention, that type of stuff. It's like, you know, saying my girl knows that I'm be saying crazy shit up here. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to go home and argue with it. Yeah, it's like you have to find a partner that like understands what you do. And I think that like women don't or just people in general, they don't understand. It's just like even though we're on this, it's not it's not like we're like traditional actors, like, you know what I'm saying? But there is is like this personification that we have.

1:29:30So even when we're on it all the time, like it's damn near part of like a character. Yeah, we're larger than life. Don't take all this shit to heart. But yeah. Yeah. But it's funny because like in the past there was a former host on this podcast who at one point was like really leaning on that of like, I'm a rapper. I need to be able to like, you know, present myself a certain way with other women and stuff because as a rapper, I need to be cool. I need to be fun. I need to be, you know, having girls in my videos, blah, blah, blah. and like apparently at a certain point like he was getting away with this with his girl but then at a certain point it becomes like okay in what way are you really a rapper you've got music videos but it's like wait you're not nba young boy because i understand him making that argument i understand like tyga having to say like hey i'm gonna do this video i'm gonna be filling up on 20 bbls in it or whatever like but then even then like the actual rappers are Like when's the last time you saw Drake actually do anything physical with a girl?

1:30:31Yeah. He's like dancing on him in the video, rubbing on him. No, he's not doing that. Like no, he's like sitting down and there. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, it should be like a pretty easy conversation. But anybody who's ever rapped is successful or unsuccessful. We've all got that off, baby. I can't have you out in the public because I got to have all these hoes following me. I got to follow the hoes on IG because I'm a rapper. Exactly. I'll lose fans if they're thinking I'm in a relationship. And we've all gotten that off. successful or unsuccessful rappers it's weird for me because like as a porn guy or whatever it's like my girl legitimately does not give two fucks about me doing porn with other girls like she actually like i will have a day where i film two different plug talk scenes with two different girls and then i come home and she doesn't even think about it if i mention it it's like oh ha yeah you were doing that all day however she doesn't give a fuck but then as soon as i get attention from a non-porn star or like a girl who seems like she wants to fuck me just on the basis of who i am oh she's going nuclear oh man it's like a different thing and it's like it's strange for me it is strange to get used to that still because i'm still kind of and but i guess i get it too because i don't really give a fuck about her shooting porn with other guys like i mean i probably care more than she cares about me shooting girls but ultimately like if there was anything even slightly flirtatious with her and another dude like if i saw text like with swaggy p hitting her dms yeah well i mean like she didn't respond to that or whatever so that's pretty easy but like if there was something where one of these porn dudes like if i ever saw a text message with one of these dudes that seemed like she was actually flirting with them like i'm not gonna lie i might be just done like i might actually yeah i feel that so you'll be so you're cool with if she's doing her job and she's performing doing the same that's fine yeah the sex the porn thing is like one thing and if you see like a whole bunch of text messages that's feeling it's because she has either convinced me or gaslit me depending on how you want to view it over the years into believing that she actually would never have feelings for anybody else or be like that with anyone else so i mean it might sound i understand it sounds insane to people but it actually like fully makes sense to me and i think that she's in a similar boat like if she saw screenshots of me like really flirting with a girl and like really yeah carrying on in that way i don't think because it's all about the feelings because it's like born it's like oh you're creating this facade that you know we fuck with each other and then you know it's just business as soon as it goes deeper than that it's like oh no it's actually deeper than that like we thought or whatever you know.

1:32:59You'd almost have to be crazy to mess something like that up because if you get to be able to do that and live a life to where you can go and shoot different scenes or whatever and then it's just like I wouldn't risk doing that by some random tech like what you doing big head. Another woman that you're gonna get married to and she's just gonna be dope with everything. But it is kind of in the soul of a man to fuck a good thing up. We always do it. we always find a way to do it yeah shoot yourself in the foot there's just so many things at this point it's like oh fuck we gotta sell the house i'm not gonna be able to sit a kid yeah it's like even when i'm like really annoyed by her it's still like there's all these things that it's like do you really want to fuck that up adam sleeping in his office why do you think we're like that as men we always find a way to mess up good things i think because you just kind of get comfortable and then you're like you remember back in the day when it was just kind of crazy and, you know, it was just wild.

1:33:46I kind of missed that. And then that gets old in like two months and you're like, I just ruined my life for this. I also don't like being controlled though because even when I talked to old girl and I was just like, I tried to make it like a parallel. I was like, well, what if I was acting and I had to do a sex scene? And she was like, well, it depends on what kind of sex. And so I was just like, I'm going to have to come and check with you on everything. Well, in the sex scene, you're not actually having sex. Yeah, you got like a sock on your dick. Wait, do they really do that? I think it's the whole thing.

1:34:10You got to put a sock on your junk. intimacy coordinator that they have on set and they like make sure everybody's comfortable with all the positions and that's what i always hear is that when it comes to that stuff like you know you watch it in fucking euphoria or whatever and you're just thinking like oh my god like i would have such a hard time controlling myself in this environment i'm gonna have a raging boner i'm gonna be squirming all over sydney sweeney i'm not gonna be able to hold myself together but when you actually hear actors talk about uh the sex scenes they say it's like the least sexy thing on earth because it takes so much time to set up and it just goes on and on but like bro like the kissing like in a lot of tv shows like i can't even imagine how difficult that is for a lot of actors to stomach you know like it's one thing with the porn world but for these people that like have never had to deal with that at all and you're just making out with sydney sweeney that's fire that's like pretty intense hey you gotta understand come on i'm on you for you yeah did you watch the new episode yet i did not i did not i watched that uh other netflix one that crazy trust me oh my god that was one of the most shocking performance shit that i told yes i watched like the first episode fundamentalist yo the actual full church of the latter day saints oh fuck i think i deleted it accidentally uh trust trust false prophet trust me the false prophet so i'll give the people at home like a little gist of it it was basically it's in arizona yeah colorado city okay yeah it's this mormon uh sort of community and they had this leader whose name was i think warren jeffson who's sort of infamous at this point because he was basically like the leader of this group uh this religious group but he was using his powers i'm not super familiar with him but he was using his his clout to basically fuck a bunch of little girls yeah polygamous so he had a bunch of wives right and a lot of them were underage and some and some like not a little bit underage it's not a flock out situation they're like tiny 10 yeah it's fucked up like really young so that guy ends up getting locked up and i think there's a documentary about him that i'm now kind of intrigued to watch i've seen that before he gets locked up and so then there's this time period where these people are sort of lost but they're still following this dude even though he's locked up so then at some point this dude samuel who when you think about these sort of like religious charlatans you think of them as being like pretty charismatic in order to be able to pull this off this guy is the biggest fucking loser i've ever seen in my entire life and even these people in this religious community who really have like no exposure to the outside world i would expect them to be able to understand what a loser this guy did for a while for a while yeah and so he basically like becomes the dude in this community and he's got like maybe a couple dozen wives at a certain point and some of them are like 11.

1:37:01It's nuts. And the people just looked crazy. I was like, why do they look different? Even the people, they just look spaced out behind the eyes. I feel like they're like inbred. I was watching that and the girl I was watching and she was just like, no, they do it a lot. I was like, oh, that's what inbred looks like? The problem was like the main guy who was in prison and he said that they can have kids anymore. So there's a big, long stretch where nobody was having any kids. And then the new guy comes along, and he's like the loser of the group, but he wants to have a kid. So he defects from the group and then just pops back up with all these wives, and a lot of them are young.

1:37:39Some of his wives are like a grown woman who's 40 years old, and then she's got a bunch of daughters who are whatever, 10 years old, 11, 12, 13, whatever. and he'll his wives will be the 40 year old woman and all of her daughters yeah so and in addition to that some of these guys who are like he brings in these like men as part of it and he's basically like he's banging these guys child daughters and the guys are on board with it and it seems like at a certain point they end up getting so freaky with it that they're having like almost like orgies literally it's hard to imagine how you would convince somebody who grew up under like a super strict religious organization that this is normal but they really are just doing literally anything this guy tells them to do that's the scary thing about religion too when you because people take really like religion so serious like you can just see people like don't you know this is wrong like just because this person is telling you this like that is a very scary my main takeaway was this is why we cannot have autistic people in power because that dude was clearly autistic and crazy the the jumping around the hikes you know jumping off of rocks and stuff this guy would be like hey film me and then like his buddy's like filming him and he's like jumping between rocks really good literally like something i would have done when i was very athletic that's what i would have wanted when i was nine years old i would have wanted to be following you mom film me jumping between these rocks yeah so he's pretty much trying to like uh make himself like jesus so that's why you're saying he had to do these heinous things and have the uh the one of the guys have six with some of the young girls in front of his daughters and all this weird stuff is that this is the pain that jesus felt so i'm like jesus and that was like his whole thing is like that's why we have to do this a lot of people watching this are probably thinking how do they have footage of this like why would anybody consent to being filmed doing what is obviously illegal and it's basically there's like a documentary crew who had other aims that they just wanted to make a documentary about this religious group and then basically slowly figure out what's going on and it's really interesting because you get to see their perspective where they have to be undercover and not give away the fact that they're planning on giving all this information to the law but then you also see sort of how complicated and slow the process is by which the cops are able to put this case together because they have audio of this dude basically acknowledging that he's having sex with these little girls but then the like the audio they give it to the cops so the cops can't really act on just that they kind of need like more that was the craziest part for sure but then what really stood out to me is that once they lock these people up everybody starts flipping oh yeah because nobody wants to be in prison oh sure so so once they've locked them up for a little while everybody starts turning and it what was crazy too is that the other guys the dudes who are with them who kind of try to pass it off like they were just brainwash those dudes get 25 30 years which grew good on a plea deal how are you a grown man allowing this to happen signing your daughter child that's crazy unreal like it doesn't matter what anybody was saying to me that would never be okay i don't know how i accidentally got sucked into that documentary that was yeah because it's like even the police thing it's like yeah supposedly it takes a lot to charge the case but the fbi was like yo why didn't they bring this to us before this and then the the main kind of sheriff guy he was like this is an enclave for you know polygamous people you know this is where they could come and kind of be accepted so it's like he was turning a blind eye to the sheriff was a little nonchalant about the whole he was definitely a part of one of them cults for sure yeah and i feel like a lot of these people like they're so used to the polygamy and they're probably used to the really young wives but they aren't maybe used to the true level of degradation that this was so they were maybe like not necessarily gonna latch on to it but like i mean the scene where they're basically chasing after him because the guy basically figures out that they're going to be apprehended by the feds and so he goes on this like crazy police chase or they take off and they end up finding him and he's got all of the women like shoved into the back of this trailer that was crazy the trailer is not sealed properly so there's a fingers there's a pretty good chance that these people are going to basically fall out of this vehicle and spill out all over the highway i mean honestly even after all the shit that we just said i still feel like people should watch it because oh yeah it's crazy just witnessing it was why because even the woman that went in she's like the most interesting woman in the world like because she like won all these like you know this pageant and then she did this and she's a doctor of this you know ends up in some shit like yeah the whole the whole point was to like humanize the Church of Latter-day Saints because she got wrapped up in something like that and she just wanted to show people hey you know this is a way of life we shouldn't judge them and then it turned into like oh maybe we should judge these people yeah this is dark.

1:42:28It was absolutely harshly. But yeah that was probably one of the most shocking things I've watched in a while I was just like insane. Did you guys get to check out any of the episodes of Something Very Bad is about to happen? I thought it was a movie and then I realized it was a series. I'm rolling out of bed middle of last week when you said that and And I have a problem where like every text I read early in the morning, I'm just going to forget about it. And I'm never going to think about it again. It just like immediately vanishes from my brain. So I emailed myself and I just wrote something very bad is going to happen.

1:43:02And then like when I finally go to look at my email at like 11 a.m., I just see that. And I'm like reminiscence. I was so confused. I'm not going to lie. I was really confused for like five, ten minutes. It's like looking at my phone, just thinking like, did I wake up? It was only once I looked at the time and I was like, oh, that's right when I woke up. Oh, dope. I didn't get a chance to see that yet. It's pretty cool. Like I only, I only got through like the first two episodes, but it's like this, like really like thriller is type of thing. Like this couple and you can tell that they're about to get married.

1:43:39He's going to take her to his family, but they're like in this little, really weird town. And then when they get to the house, it's like a bunch of weird stuff happening. You should definitely watch it. It's like a movie. No, but it's a series. But it's not a documentary. No, no, no, no. It's like a movie scripted. Historically, I have done a pretty unbelievably bad job at paying attention to anything scripted. My wife, really, this is kind of like the bane of her existence is that I don't want to watch any movies with her. I only like things that are documentaries. Do you guys suffer from this at all?

1:44:06I do. Because I feel like all I really watch at this point in my life is probably 90 % YouTube. Yeah. And it's tough for me as a creator, too, because I want to get lost in the world and go watch a movie and be inspired creatively. But I just be watching like podcasts and clips and stuff. I really feel like I'm a YouTube junkie for real. But then I resent that about myself that I, you know, it's 11 p.m. I spent my whole day immersed in this sort of weird world I've created for myself where we're talking about rap and we're talking about street shit and maybe a sprinkling of, you know, of politics or like real world stuff or whatever.

1:44:43But it's like, then it's like 11 PM and it's like, why am I watching a Compton Rick Rob? For sure. Or in the comments about one of your videos. By the way, it was all up on the Snoop album on one song. They're like shouting out Compton Rick. Oh, I did hear that. But I did see him in the studio with him, so I don't really know how that necessarily played out, but shout out to him. Yeah, he'd be walking the Death Row merch and all that good stuff. Yeah, it seemed like this was Snoop Dogg's kind of GNX kind-y. He was going to do the press run where he hits all the local guys, trying to show love, put people on.

1:45:14It was kind of almost reminding me more of when Kanye sort of transitioned from being the star of the show on every album to being like, oh, this person's going to rap. Supporting cast. I've got this person singing, and maybe I'm not even really on this song or whatever like i feel like if i'm snoop i lean heavily into that because all right like death row has been in his hands for many years now i was just gonna say this it seems from my perspective to be an abject failure like with the they have done nothing they tried to sign a couple artists they tried to sign snoopy badass for some reason that didn't work out but like it's kind of like if i'm snoop and you want to make music or like develop this lineage like sign artists and then sort of put them on these projects that you're putting together and you could put them out relatively frequently but just make it so it's not just about like oh i'm snoop dogg and i'm rapping over beats because when you're when you're 54 it's tough to do that but if you could be the cool dude yelling over the song before peasy starts rapping yeah and then maybe you got another a couple good bangers that are really primarily based around you but it's really good hooks that you probably didn't write and everything i feel like that is the direction that could actually give Snoop more longevity because yes, we all are like so proud of Snoop and everything that he's built.

1:46:30But what people don't really like to mention is the fact that like musically that hasn't really been a part of what he's built for a long time, for like really nearly like 20 years. And that's what I thought was going to happen when he came out with the, you know, with getting there. For I thought he would like go out and seek out like new hot artists and, and bring them out. And the fact that it's years later and it still hasn't happened, it was like, well, what did you do this for? Did you just do it for the catalog or for that? You can still rap. just the brand like that was a good move just in the for a moment right there and then you just don't really care other than that but like there was a happy dad collab on the way so yeah but like i could see like how you're talking like you know him doing some shit with like savvy third or something like that you know snooping introducing this is a new long beach dude you know yeah like all of them bring these people in exactly give them a shot and you know like like savvy third you don't need to sign them yeah but give them a verse on your album because it'll lend some sort like street cred to everything you have going on it could help elevate their careers it makes you look more like you're not not that snoop has any problems in this regard but it'll make snoop look like someone who's really fixated and focused on building up more of the local community and the next generation i think that's a good look because you don't necessarily like if you're an la rapper like where are you going to get a look who's gonna put you yeah and west coast legends have kind of got that you know rap of like you guys don't help nobody you guys don't reach out you don't care about the new generation and that's why people are kind of treating you bad as you age out of the game as well you're not bringing on the new wave of talent yeah no that's a fact um all right i feel like uh we've kind of done what we were supposed to do here we had some fun yeah that was fun for sure let us know that's gonna get us canceled this week two hours i mean the rosenberg podcast honestly like made me more confident i was like well shit if we do an hour in 10 minutes that's pretty fucking good so i mean i can't really see myself doing an hour long podcast unless we're like really short on topics i'm so used to just getting on twitter and digging in and like really trying to find many hours worth of stuff to talk about i know we did two hours and none of us had to pull out videos of our families and stuff yeah look at my kid i know i didn't get to talk about afro man apologizing to the mexicans for saying that so it's like yeah we could go on forever i remember this is the one last thing i wanted to talk about and i meant to bring it up during the little russell thing but like with ricky ricky actually got annexed from the group chat because okay we're in the group chat and ricky ricky is someone who repeatedly over the over the time that he's been part of the podcast i've seen the fans saying that his takes suck i personally feel like i've heard plenty of good tuna takes from yeah ricky in the sense of I feel like he has a decent job.

1:49:13He has a decent ability to latch onto a conversation and really be able to insert his perspective and be logical and reasonably well thought out. But he was basically in the group chat making it clear that his opinion is that anyone who is in any way disappointed or concerned with Gucci Mane for telling on Push Isty is basically an idiot and wasting their time because a lot of other rappers have told and therefore it is an absolute waste of time and it is just totally ridiculous to hold Gucci Mane to any sort of standard or to feel like it is hypocritical in any way and it was like no matter what I was saying to him it just really seemed like he wasn't willing to let go of this take and I feel like in the group chat like it's just not a place for you to have your worst take like i just i don't want to be in there because like this was a huge problem with me and t-relle during uh his time i think this triggered him too this is what really it kind of like reminded me of what it used to be like to be in the group chat with t-relle where like you know okay the the will smith and chris rock thing happens which is obviously seismic news and the conversation starts progressing really rapidly and you know very quickly you're starting to like you can kind of tell like on social media and stuff who's got good takes who's got interesting stuff to say about this and then meanwhile we had T.

1:50:37Rell in the group chat and his attitude is like Will Smith didn't do anything wrong if you say anything about my wife I'll smack the shit out of you too so he didn't do anything wrong and actually I think he should be celebrated for what he did and like you know it's okay to like start there right but when everyone is really just like heaping contrarian opinions upon you and like really making good points that you seem intellectually unwilling to deal with that's when my perspective is like okay i don't really want to be in a group chat all day where we're having like serious shit it's just too dumb it's like you know if you if you seem like you just like have a bad opinion and you're not willing to shape it at all and hey to his credit spody face almost like the king of bad opinions on tuesday he doesn't really bring that to the group chat for the most part you know and flaco is probably guilty of that as well where he's just sort of he just says things that like are really just but at least what kind of say y 'all removed y 'all removed him from the chat because of that though that was that ricky got the boot ricky felt like that was a sign of his days that no jumper being numbered do you feel that way or do you feel like it's just strictly group chat i think he's on probation because now it's making me really want to take more of a look at his takes on the news like really uh maybe i need to spend more time looking at the news and really analyzing what he's bringing to that because his take on the gucci main thing was just it was just untenable because it wasn't just that it was that everybody that has all this energy needs to direct it back to push i see because he's a dummy for doing this crime and doing it sloppily and we should be focusing on that over gucci and i continue to debate ricky in our group chat for our podcast once he left there because i'm the only one he has now you know so i had to continue to debate That's got to hurt because his group chat, he might not have curated too many other group chats that he's really able to get this experience.

1:52:30Yeah, yeah. There's not it's not as exciting, but I definitely debated him continually. And he was pivoted in a lot. And I think you're, you know, examining of him is pretty correct. He's pretty on point most of the time. It's just he has these hills that he dies on. It's just so random. And I just and I try to tell him, like, if you're going to die on the hill, die on it. But you've got to be researched. You got to have bullet points ready to fire off as someone challenges you. You can't just be like, this is how I feel. And that's how I feel. And that's how it's going to be. You have to like build your case, man.

1:53:00It's got to be like a debate. You got to look at it. And if you want to go that hard to where you're just not going to let go, you got to have the more bullets. And especially having a take like that, where it is so flying in the face of everything that everybody is saying in hip hop. And I love a contrarian. Exactly. I like it. But if you're going to have the contrarian opinion, you need to like sit with yourself and really work on your take and think about like, what am I going to say in the face of this? Because you're really telling me that one of the most gangster rappers of our lifetimes, of all time, should just be able to snitch.

1:53:33And that the fans who are even interested in discussing it are somehow the ones in the wrong. And I feel like I'm not a person who's really trying to hold Gucci to the flames. I understand that Gucci's an old head and that he doesn't live this gangster life anymore and that everything is a little different for him at this point and whatever. Like, yeah, sure. All that's true. That is all true. And I'm not really like trying to like drag Gucci back to the Stone Age or anything like that. But I just don't, I don't think that that's like a, that's an opinion that is so stupid that I just don't feel like it deserves airtime in the group chat, which is kind of the place where we're forming what the narratives that we're going to talk about over the course of the next couple of days is really taking place on average.

1:54:11Right. Yeah. Yeah, I told him I'm not talking about it. We did a pod last night. I'm like, we did enough in the group chat, Ricky. That one's over. He agreed. So, you know, at least he's not still trying to die on it. But, yeah, it was just kind of, yeah, Ricky definitely could just, you know, sort out his thoughts a little bit better. So when he comes to the table and wants to stand on that against Adam, because I feel like he prides on just, you know, pushing against, especially when that's the status quo opinion. But you've got to have something of substance to work with. I would like to have that conversation with him.

1:54:37Maybe there will be time where we could do it, like, on the news this week or something. because I would like to get the fans involved in it. Because that's part of the problem is that it's like, if Spodeface has an insane opinion, which he frequently does on the podcast, well, we're filling up the timeline. The people are watching. The people are presumably somewhat interested in this. So that provides some value. If you're going to have the most insane contrarian opinion in the group chat, there's really nobody benefiting from the guy. For the love of the game, baby. It's for the love of the game.

1:55:04Nobody's watching this. Yeah. Just happen to listen to it. Which also, okay, it's important for us to know this. is that next week on Monday, number one, I have to do porn all day. So basically we're going to be starting late. We're going to be starting at like seven, seven 30, maybe something like that. In addition to that, it is four 20. So we are going to be making it our mission to get as high as anyone has ever been on this podcast. Yes. Now, how long will that take? Like, will we get so high that like two hours in? I think that's probably what it'll be end up being. We're all passed out.

1:55:42I think we should go like three, four hours. We should get as stoned as pop. I'm talking shrooms. I'm talking weed. I'm talking dabs. Oh, shit. Let's go there. If I start eating edibles, they will see a version of me that they've never seen before. That's what we want to see. Shrooms, I might have to stay off, but I'm done with everything else. And then we can have the conversations of just like, shrooms, I get weird. I'm going to get quiet and weird. I might cry. That's good. Cry on the cast. I'm not going to cry, but I'll definitely get weird. So, I don't know. Maybe we could pull some of the Adderall out of Lush's asshole and take some of that.

1:56:12We're like, bring Lush in. We're getting tired. Yo, but I do think, because Compa said that he wants to be part of it too, which by the way, how was your introduction to the Compa show? I like Compa. He went on the hike. Yeah, he's a super cool dude. I've seen his content before, but just meeting him in person, he's cool. But he doesn't smoke weed. So if he's on here on Monday with us, it's going to be kind of, yes. He said he's bringing a lot of weed and a lot of sushi if he comes on Monday. That was my selling point. but then we're going to pig out as i'm saying because like a reasonable amount of sushi broccoli all over the table a reasonable amount of sushi is great for the diet that's like one of the healthier options you could have if you want to go out to eat a platter slamming man no he brings a platter yeah it's like this semi-circle right here like that is the size family reunion platter he's gonna pull up i'm all for that i know you are but now you're not chicken cereal.

1:57:02That's the problem. Oh boy. We get stoned and we eat sushi. What other podcast is doing that? Oh, that's a good question. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. That's going to be fun. I feel like we'll have some, some, we'll probably have some dope conversations that we wouldn't have if we wasn't that. Well, also it might be an opportunity for us to like maybe bring in some of our other hosts from the No Jumper universe to maybe assist with letting us go long. Cause Hey, I'm down to cancel my workout the next morning. so I can really get hot. I'm Ubering that day. I'm trying to green out. I'm not trying to throw up.

1:57:38But that's the good thing about Compa too is he owns like a weed company. So nice. Shout out trash bag. We'll be getting high for free realistically. That's even better. There was a lot of a little fake friction between me and Compa so the height kind of bonded us. Prime hit me and was like, oh, now Compa likes moose. So now all of a sudden I was like, whoa, I didn't know. And Compa's like, what's Prime talking about? The whole food community is just like fucking slick hating each other i'm just gonna use them as the stand-in for this type of content is it's it's giving trevin keen oh where it's like oh hey come on our podcast we want to ask you about a bunch of random people with 5 000 followers you have no reason to think about we're gonna ask you like about they're pivoting now they've been talking to me about it i've been talking to them about it we gotta you know get them outside of the bubble and they're they're they're with it they're with it for sure that's why i think edible when i went on the food community is because i was like listen if i'm gonna have them ask me about every minor podcast beef i've had over the past three years i at least want my brain to be shown yeah your couple's like for real you didn't want to do it that bad fool like that was funny and what like what what's the highest you would that you would say you've ever been in your life like what day could you be like i was so stoned that day oh well i've got a bunch of memories but they all rely on edibles we want to surpass that no because all my highs weren't just weed it's like i'm popping zans i'm sipping drink you know what i mean it's like that's the highest you know the highest of high yeah i'm juicy jay for the day yeah i took a fucking half a zen and drank one ounce one line of lean and smoked a blunt or two was out of there.

1:59:15It's just I'm not even going to be like a podcaster anymore. I'm going to be prime Mozzie at that point. I'm going to be mumbling in the studio. It'll be fun, but it's like, this is 56 Zans and they all crazy. I'm not kicking the cup anytime soon. Wait, no, 56 Nights. 56 Nights, yeah, but you might as well take 56 Zans in 56 Nights. No, he said I took 56 Zans on a European tour and I'm still drinking. Jesus. And the fact that he wasn't doing that is disappointing. That did let me down when I found out he didn't. You think so? And he's just playing it. He's getting loaded. because juicy j got me to sip lean juicy j got me wanting to pop pills and whiz got me smoking weed you know so it's like i believe them for sure i had a day in probably like 2013 or 2014 where i was listening to future and he made poppin's and sounds so cool that i drove to the valley and bought like 20 fans off some girl and then proceeded to go on a zan binge for the next week and got absolutely nothing done.

2:00:13It's sad to think about the fact that my podcast could have been significantly further along if I had not done that. It shows you how powerful music is though. And powerful Zanz are. Yeah, Zanz are very powerful. Okay, smash the like if you love Zanz. Shout out to everybody. We'll see you next week at 7 or so p.m. Make sure you tune in tomorrow for the Tuesday show and make sure you go check these guys out on social media and watch their various outings. Yes, sir. next time. Let's get it.