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30:28And there's even like, you know, writings that Trump did where he mused about the fact that one of their main things that they had in common was a love of women together. Although Epstein tended to like them a little younger. Like this is actual shit that Trump said. and given the context of him he said women not little girls yeah but he said that he liked them on the younger side which you know honestly I mean given that we know that Epstein was this prolific pedophile it is kind of weird that you have multiple instances of Trump basically talking about secrets and young girls and shit I mean that's kind of odd right?

30:59But you and CMAC got secrets? Crip Mac? You and Brick Baby got secrets? What are my secrets with Crip Mac? I don't know I'm pretty sure it's things only you guys talked about. You're implying that me and Crip Mac have done gay things together? That's not what I'm saying. That's not what I would never say. I don't think Crippin' Act's gay. What I'm saying is everybody got some information they only shared with an individual. That's the secret, right? But if me and you were no longer cool, neither of us would be able to credibly accuse the other of pedophilia. No, I mean, what do you mean? I don't know what the hell you need to do.

31:31I hope you ain't doing nothing like that. I mean, I can say whatever I want about you, but it would have to be a total lie. You think when they doing business Some of the shit they do The underhanded shit they do To get their way To get these contracts You think him and Elon Musk Don't have any secrets Elon came in there Secured a bunch of crazy contracts And then made it look like It was an issue So he got out of there Well it's funny That you say that Because Elon basically accused Trump of being a pedophile He said those words? Not those words But he said Trump is in the Epstein files Okay a lot of people's in the Epstein files.

32:10Remember that whole list came out of everybody that had been to the island. Everybody that had been to the island didn't participate in the activity with the kids. Keep in mind, Elon said this at the peak of them beefing. And the thing is, is that we already know that Trump spent tons of time hanging out with Epstein. That's not news. So that's not the slam dunk that Elon was suggesting. But he did say that he was in the Epstein files. And this is the other thing is that the Epstein files are the thing that Trump refuses to release. and people like Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, etc. These were all people who were very, very vocal about Epstein's list being released once Trump came into office, and now Trump's base feels very betrayed because he's not willing to provide this information.

32:52And Trump is actually lashing out at his fans for wanting this information that he previously told them that they deserved and that he would introduce to them. I'm not somebody who was terribly invested in all of this, beforehand it's only now seeing how guilty trump and all the subordinates are acting that i'm like oh okay well it seems like something fucked up is going on because you guys all are clearly trying to draw attention away from this and are not handing over the information that you claimed like a few months ago that you had see i knew it was a cover-up when they came with the martin luther king files yeah exactly there's another thing that nobody gives a fuck yeah when they came with those files, I said, okay, they're trying to keep some attention on something else.

33:38Now, my thing about it is this. Now, walk with me. Do you think if Trump was in those Epstein files in a foul manner that they wouldn't have brought that up during the election? No, for sure, because I mean, keep in mind that Joe Biden was in office until very, very recently. Do I think his name is mentioned in there? Do I think he did business with Epstein? I'm just looking. I'm not one of them people you could throw something out. And I'm like, oh, oh, oh, bro, Biden was in office. He despises Trump, right? He would have definitely exposed that. So them saying Trump's an Epstein file, okay, they came out with a list of celebrities that have been Epstein Island.

34:18That don't mean those celebrities went there to do something crazy. You get what I'm saying? And previously, I would have had your back on that. But the way that he's acting as if there's something so damning that they don't want released in these files, that really makes me feel like oh shit he's hiding something do I think it's something in there that he may be held to answer to definitely do I think it's sexually related to children no do I think it's business related to somehow some way doing what he does best yes I think if it's any foul play it's on the business side I don't, bro, ain't no way Biden wouldn't let that go.

35:05Think about it. Like, bro, his VP is running against him. I agree. This is who he wants in office, right? He knows his family's protected, his son, his partner, his son, all that'll be protected with her in office. So do I think it's some foul playing there when it comes to Trump? Yeah. Sexually with the children? No. If it was that, it would have been exposed. Well, he's the only person who can release this information. What you mean? I mean, nobody else is going to be able to officiate it being released than him. Our government? If there's nothing to hide, then he could easily soothe our concerns right now.

35:44And he's not. No, you're right. Instead, he's scrambling around like a chicken with his head cut off, talking about all this other random shit. So you're saying he's going to delay it until he's out of office? Well, that's what has been his strategy with a lot of things. Like, that's basically what he's always been doing with his tax returns, Tax returns typically get released when you're running for president He said no I can't because I'm being audited People said that doesn't make any sense Here we are over eight years later We still don't have the tax returns So I feel like Trump is a master at sort of running out the clock And creating attention around Other things to distract people From the thing that he doesn't want people to talk about This might be the one thing that he's not able To run that game on Because his fan base is very invested in this He don't give a damn about no fan base he does he follows the word of his fan base when he's at his rallies he says something and he sees what gets response and he tends to go in the direction of his fan base and that's why a lot of things that you could reasonably assume that he doesn't actually believe like for instance obama being from kenya or whatever like i don't think that trump is actually stupid enough to believe that but it gets a response from his fan base so it's something that he's used over the years because his fan base went with it.

36:56And the Epstein shit is the same thing where it's like, maybe Trump doesn't have anything to hide. Maybe Trump was just using the Epstein shit as a way to rally his fans. But now he's in the position of looking like a massive hypocrite, unless he finds a way to placate them. Bro, one thing we know about Trump all his life, he's found a way. Yeah. I thought you were a Trump supporter. No. We've talked about this enough for you to know that that's not true no i mean there's things that he's done that i'm in favor of oh okay i think we still we should have built the wall i love my rasa but i think a wall would have been nice i think that the way everybody acted like the wall was so offensive it's kind of crazy so you're you're you're you're you're anti-mexico no i'm anti-illegal immigration though from athletic stuff like a full court pickup game swish to athletic stuff like a half mile stroll Get those steps in.

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38:31I think we need a tight border. So you think, so you're with the ice people? No. You're pro-ice. I think a lot of what they're doing is kind of gross. But I think in general, we need to be very strict about our border. And I think the wall would have easily accomplished that. You know, something that's effectively like a wall. Instead, the Democrats rallied behind the idea that the wall was racist. And then Trump basically won this election because he was stronger on immigration. The left didn't really have a way for them to say, like, yeah, we care about immigration. Once they had called the wall racist for all those years.

39:03And he barely talked about the wall this election cycle. Yo, four extras looked at my story. Couldn't believe it. Oh, shit. I left him a message. What'd you say? Stay focused. What is he focused on right now? No, whatever it is, I told him, I might have told him, get focused. But he left me. I was like, oh, shit. I haven't heard from him. You know what I'm saying? I haven't heard from him. I haven't heard from him either. And apparently he doesn't seem like all that concerned about doing an interview or doing any kind of content. Nah, he knows you're a snake. He knows that shit. I'm not a snake.

39:38I'm the one who was paying him for all those months. He's the one who decided that he had greener pastures out there, that he was going to go get cashed out for doing another piece of content somewhere else. I mean, he would have got the money if you wouldn't have blocked it. He would have kept getting paid by me all these months. You shouldn't have blocked it. You went on the news talking about, hey, I'm cool with it the whole time. You block and shit. What did I block? Two, three of his opportunities getting paid. How? The only person I talked to was Vlad, and Vlad told me that he had already rejected the amount that Forex was asking for.

40:08Why you didn't offer him something? Because I had already been paying him, and then he did not contact me or offer me this content in any way, which made me feel like, oh. Why didn't you get sent in an offer? Who am I going to send it to? He didn't respond to me. Changed his number, actually, after he blew his hand off. You could have sent it to Lupe. This is my thing. I don't chase pussy. I'm not saying. Don't touch with this metaphor. But I'm saying there could be the baddest bitch in the world, and if I got to fight for it, I don't want it. Yo, Adam, you know, let me tell you something. It's a metaphor.

40:45I got a call from my homeboy, right? I grew up with him named Jermaine Barsman. And I lost communication, and somehow he ended up moving to L.A. and being from rolling 60s. I had no idea about a month ago, right? Okay. He did about 27. He calls me this morning and said, hey, you know, I know you. We grew up together. I said, what? He said, Adam has no filter. he's a white dude who will never comprehend loyalty like that so and i you just made me the only loyalty that i'm being asked to abide by is like the most insane you just bullshit you just referred to four extras as a bitch no i did not you see i speak as if i'm talking to adults and you're going to interpret what i said as if you were a child you always refer to your chat.

41:42It's a metaphor. No, yeah, but see I'm starting to understand. For the record though, anybody can take it however they want to take it. I don't give a fuck. See, that kind of shit. But again, I'm talking to grown-ups. I'm not stooping down and communicating like a child. But we're talking about a man. So we should never use... It's a metaphor. I'm not saying he's a bitch. I'm just saying, no matter how hot a girl is, I'm not chasing her. No, but what I'm saying is when we're obviously talking about an individual. Your mind doesn't register. Don't say this now. There's a metaphor. Yeah, but all metaphors ain't designed to be said about certain shit.

42:24But I'm getting it. See, you're really in front of me, and I can see that you're really like, what the fuck are you talking about? You're really not comprehending. And it ain't your fault. It's just that coming from where we come from. And to you, you're like, hey, bro, I'm using this as an example. I know what we're talking about, but what I'm telling you is because you used it while we were talking about what we're talking about, we're going to take it like you're calling him a bitch. No. But I wasn't. I'm telling you. No, I hear what you're saying. I'm using a woman as a metaphor. So you don't understand that I'm saying.

43:00No, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. I'm just saying that that's how like a fifth grader would interpret it. See, now you just took another shot. No, but I'm saying by the time you were able to graduate high school, I think that you should be able to understand the idea that if I'm doing a metaphor, I'm saying, Wack, a podcast is like a sandwich. You've got your bread. You've got your vegetables. You've got your meat. You've got your sauce. I get that. And I think that you would be able to understand and not say, well, Adam, a podcast is not a sandwich. You can't eat a podcast.

43:35That's not where I'm going with this. Where I'm going with this is. No, this is exactly. No, I'm not. Because that, I get that, right? Nobody would take any kind of way. When we're talking about an individual man, and we're talking about an individual that we know sees shit one way. Let's come down, right? We both understand four extras, I think, right? Yeah. All right. So for us to be talking about this man, and for you to reference anything that has to do with a bitch or a woman, I think you could have found something else that fit and was a little more appropriate. I get what you're the sound.

44:10I wouldn't. You get it. I get it. Cause you're going to say, this is like the bread and this is like the meat. And I get it. Right. The reason why that is the metaphor that jumps into my mind immediately is because you're an asshole. It often occurs. That's why I just say it. No, all of my podcast co-hosts are kind of like little different mini romances. You just did it. What do you mean by that? What is a mini romance? In the sense of like, you know, it's not like I'm actually having sex with most of my co-hosts. Obviously, there are exceptions like Brig Baby. But like we what I do is it's kind of like you meet someone, you form a bond, a connection of sorts.

44:50and then hey maybe that person decides at one point that they want to go find out if there are better opportunities out there maybe they don't want to be in a relationship with me maybe they want to go and try to see if they could form a relationship with somebody else so you know that's okay that's fine they can do that so you haven't i'm not gonna chase them you haven't um really sat back and thought about anything that may have rubbed him the wrong way if you could do anything different let me ask this would you have done anything differently Yeah, I would have teleported to Vernon Avenue and I would have yanked the M80 out of his hand and I would have thrown it all the way to the opposite.

45:30No, I mean, what am I going to do differently? I would know. I'm just asking you. The only thing that I'm aware of that he's mad about is something that I would not apologize for and I would never compromise on, which is I do podcasts and we talk about what's going on. And sometimes I might be doing a podcast with someone who doesn't get along with somebody else. And I'm still going to have a conversation with them about the thing that we're talking about. Everybody you sat down with, right? And I'm not even talking about you sitting down with them. Right. But I think I would have controlled the Gumby slander at him.

46:12I wouldn't control Gumby. Listen, Gumby's his own man. I'm not saying you sitting down with him. It's whatever. Gunnar, he's a funny dude. You know, he's a character dude, right? But I think when it came to him attacking 4XRs, I think that the King Peele shit, he had been coming in. That was way after 4XR had already cut ties with No Jumper and stopped speaking to me because the original thing, like the King Peele, Munchy Conversation, all that, That's like a month before the Gumby episode. That's a given. The King Peele Munchie B shit is a given. Right. That's been going on. But then like Gumby is someone that I had been trying to get on the podcast for a couple months at that point.

46:59We finally made it happen. The idea that I would, what, like censor him talking about Forex's hand. I mean, why would I do that? What the fuck? He can talk about it. It's in the news. It's not like it's a secret. No, let me tell you what's happening, Adam, and I think you don't understand this. It really ain't cho—you know, because, bro, if you in the streets and you call yourself a gangbanger, when you bring your ass up here and sit at this table, all them politics and all how it's supposed to go and what it is in the county jail and prison in the hood, that shit doesn't exist in here. period and I think what's happening is and it ain't on you a lot of the characters that we see on social media happen to be gangbangers right but some of them like Hawk I believe Hawk gets it to a point to where he knows it gotta be a little giving it cause you said some crazy shit to Hawk I just emailed you something that you pull up you said some crazy shit to Hawk that I was like okay maybe he's in the right state of mind.

48:08Like what? Somebody was talking about his day birthday and whenever somebody was up there with you and he was like, oh, I can't go. Maybe it was Lush or something. I don't know. I can't go. My kid is due or something shit like that. And you said, fuck your kid. I was like, fuck the kid. You got a podcast. Right then. The Hoover Hulk that we know would have flipped out on your ass. See, but you. That's such a retarded thing to flip out about. See, the fact that you're saying that. Yeah. I think I'm the only one that can really isolate the crazy shit you say. I love that. I do a podcast where it's so obvious that we are joking around and we're having fun.

48:50That offensive jokes are part of it. And then we have a whole mob of fans out there that are so committed to finding offense in everything. They want to sow division between the hosts so bad. And then the hosts don't give a fuck. and they're just like with the pitchforks just rallying. No, you have to be offended by this. It's so pathetic and we shouldn't even be giving airtime to these kind of pathetic opinions. Okay, you done? Sure. Okay, now, Hulk mentions he has a kid on the way. I can't pretend you tell Hulk and you're saying it was out of fun. Fuck your kid. I would love to see it so that we could actually show how obviously sarcastic I was being in the moment.

49:30No, you said it out of fun though, right? Because Hawk's opinion or what he said is He didn't hear you. I'm not going to know. I seen like a comment where he was responding to somebody talking about this, where he said like, I'm not going to get out of pocket over something that was obviously a joke. What the fuck is wrong with you? He didn't hear you at the time. He responded to it on Instagram. What he was able to do because people were kept telling him about it was go back and look at it and then see afterward. You said, obviously you didn't hear me. I made a joke about whatever. Oh, I did clarify.

49:58Right. So he was able to see the whole thing. I'm talking about, the Hulk and the people know any man, right? And I got you in the trick bag on this one. When somebody mentions their kid and a man says, fuck your kid, right? It's immediate response. Now, why did I tell you I don't give a fuck what you say about T-Rail? He got that coming. Because of what? Because his son's throwing it back in a circle? Yeah. Well, you know what? I really can't say nothing because he said something about your child. The reason why it was so obviously a joke is because I have never disrespected anybody's kids on this podcast aside from one person.

50:45So let me ask you something. Do you think disrespecting somebody's kid should be in the joke category? I think it's certainly something you can make jokes about, yeah. You believe that shit? That you can make jokes about having children? Yeah, of course. No, about somebody's kid. Like, say you believe the words fuck your kid should be in the joke category. I mean, how many times have you watched a stand-up set and seen the comedian make jokes about their kids and other people's kids? Their kids, yeah. But I'm just telling you, you're on a whole nother planet because you're really, you ain't bullshitting right now.

51:22You're looking at me like, hey, what the fuck? It was a joke. No, because you're trying to like stir up some kind of imaginary controversy and imaginary offense where in context, when it was a bunch of people who are actually cool on a podcast together, there wasn't any offense, but this is what they do is that now people decide to get the pitchforks out and be like, you weren't offended, but you're a bitch because you weren't offended. Let me tell you why I'm not trying to stir it up. The picture I'm trying to paint is that where you're at mentally and how you see shit in your world is totally different to how we take, what you say.

52:00And the people... No, but actually the fact that I made a joke and that nobody got offended by it besides the people who were in the comments. He didn't hear you. But that proves that actually there was no offense because I even explained, I doubled back and said, hey, it's awkward because I made this joke and you didn't hear me. And so nobody laughed. I explained it to him and he still didn't give a fuck because it was obviously a joke. And friends can joke around with each other. He's not your fucking friend. Y 'all just met each other. We might not be a full friend status yet. But listen, I believe that if he would have heard you initially, he would have reacted another way.

52:32I don't think so. I think we would have got that it was a joke. No. You want to call him? I don't care. Now, do I think you was playing in your own twisted ass way? Yeah. You burnt out like that. This is why I don't pay you no attention when you saying gay shit. I think everybody should be able to make jokes about everything including their children including HIV, STDs, illegal immigration, cancer. You can't make jokes about that. So somebody, somebody says my sister died of breast cancer. You gonna make a joke about the breast? If the joke was good enough, then I think it would be acceptable.

53:16See, you're fucked up in the head, bro. Why? Some of these things, it's just, you can't joke about it. I have a bunch of family members who died from cancer. Yeah. Okay. I don't think cancer is off limits. as far as something you can make a joke about. So if your aunt died of cancer, you would joke with your uncle about his wife dying of cancer? No, I'm talking about just joking about cancer in general. If there was some joke that was about cancer and it was funny, and then someone's aunt died of cancer, that joke could still be funny outside of the fact that you personally dealt with the trauma of somebody dying of cancer.

53:50So hypothetically speaking, some of your aunt died of breast cancer, right? Would you tell your uncle, well how long did you expect her to live with a rotten breast with a rotten tit I mean it's not funny but if it was funny I can imagine it being funny and you would say it some shit is just off limits is anything off limits to you not if it's funny I think as long as it's actually funny then you should be able to joke about anything okay so you do know right on some real shit now hear me when I say this I gotta respect what you're saying about you because it's you you're saying as long as it's funny is not off limits, although somebody may be offended by it.

54:30Okay, so that says that if it's funny that somebody beating the shit out of you and slugging you with a hammer, that's not off limits either. That's funny, right? Because some people may take that as being funny. Let's do the actual example of this. Let's say that tomorrow I'm leaving here and I get jumped and they beat the shit out of me with hammers. Yeah, some people may think it's funny. Are we no longer able to make jokes about someone getting beat up and attacked with hammers? No. No, that's still something you could potentially joke about. Now, would it be funny if immediately after I was beaten with hammers and I'm in the hospital, if Donnie hopped on Instagram and said, LOL, Adam got beat with hammers?

55:11No, that probably wouldn't be funny. That's what you let happen to four extras. You just see what? That's what you let happen to four extras. How? You let Gumby sit here And say what he said About they called him like They said some crazy shit I don't know what they said Let me explain it to you in a way that I think you can understand No bro Do you understand the concept of a platform No I get all that Like when you get on What social media are you primarily on? Instagram When you get on Instagram and you say something crazy And you get out of pocket Nobody looks at Mark Zuckerberg and says how dare you let this person be on your platform saying these terrible things?

55:52Bullshit, then report it. Well, some people might report it, but I don't think anybody actually thinks that Mark Zuckerberg is the worst. Nobody's ever gone to Mark Zuckerberg and said, why do you continue to allow Wack 100 to say things that he does on social media? Now, when I say that, I'm saying, Gumby on here making jokes about Forrestra, I view it the same way. It may be a platform that I own, but I, except for extreme cases, don't feel like it's my job to litigate speech. You get beat with a hammer, okay? You get beat with a hammer. You're in the hospital and they go fucking put up a post of somebody hammering a nail and tag your wife and say, how's your day?

56:31That sounds like the kind of joke that absolutely people would make. Do you think that would be appropriate? I don't think that I have any room to tell random people on the internet what they can and can't joke about. I said, do you think it was appropriate? Close friend? Okay, yeah, I think that's inappropriate. That's not really what a friend would do. Do you think you and four exes were close friends? I would say that he had basically told me that we were very close friends. No, no, fuck what he told you. See, there ain't go the problem, y 'all. I think we were friends. I'm asking you. Very close friends.

57:02Now you're kind of getting into the territory I might not be comfortable with. That's you and Brick Baby. You and Brick Baby because y 'all did gay shit sometimes. Yeah, sure. Okay, so you think he took it a little more serious than you did? if he thought that we have the kind of friendship that meant that I wasn't going to have a conversation with him blowing one of his appendages off on the podcast if he thought that that was the extent of our friendship he was confused because I don't really have that kind of friendship with almost anybody we talk about the news on here and I'm even gonna talk about people up here huh Josh or Remo maybe um what about them them probably Mikey it's only is I think your close friends are the people that's really a part of the internal workers of your business.

57:48Everybody else is expandable. I prefer for my close friends to really not have anything to do with No Jumper, ideally. That would be great. When I first started, it was like, oh, I'm going to hire all these people that I'm friends with. As time goes by, you find that it's actually a lot better to employ people that don't feel like they have that sort of relationship with you. Do I feel like I have friendships with a lot of people who work here? Yeah, but also I don't want it to become so close that they feel like they can manipulate and take advantage of me now. If it's what was good for the group was good for you was good for them, too, right?

58:23So if you say slick shit about them that you think nothing wrong with it, they can say slick shit back. Can they say slick shit back to you in the same lane as you did to them and not have to worry about any repercussions behind it? You're talking about the hosts on No Jumber? anybody else like if you pop it and have faith and you say some slick shit about that he took offended right and you know he didn't say none i fuck it can he pop some slick shit back at you and you say and he says hey i thought it was funny and you're like hey bro i don't appreciate it without without you and i actually feel like a huge percentage of what we do on camera here is basically like talking about jokes, conversations, et cetera, and deciding if they were, for whatever reason, appropriate or not appropriate.

59:12Like that's a huge percentage of the oxygen that has expanded on this podcast. So for sure, yeah. I mean, if I offend Ann Hefe and he wants to joke back at me, then I could assume we're going to end up having a whole prolonged, drawn-out conversation about was Adam's joke funny? Was Ann Hefe's joke funny? I mean, sure. So long as it leads to content, you good with it. Well, that is kind of what we're doing here. No, I'm just, I'm asking you. So. I mean, I have people on the podcast. You don't even have to say to somebody I'm cool with, like, like the Gumby thing was kind of like I had him on the podcast because he had kind of put himself out there as an adversary to me.

59:50So that's me inviting somebody on the podcast who I knew was going to be talking shit to me. And that's why I invited him because I knew it was going to be good content. Got you. No, he's definitely a funny dude. I'm curious about what Hawk would say. You and Gumby together. Gumby just texted me. Not homies. Will you and Gumby do an episode together? Yeah. He just texted me right now. That's what I'm talking about. I like that idea. We've been communicating. Okay. Here's the question about Hawk. We've been communicating. There it is. Gumby. Why are you talking about Shooter? What's going on with him?

1:00:24Did he beat that shit? Yeah, he was on there. I kind of helped him a little bit. He came on with G-Face. I helped him a little bit. I helped him. You know, them charges he had ain't as serious. What, it was Robin T. Grizzly's crib? That ain't one of his charges. Charlie, remember he had to shoot. He shot somebody, yeah. Is he going to beat that? He going to be all right. For real? He going to be all right. I knew both parties. He's actually getting out. He going to be all right. Shooter ain't going to get that time. I think somebody messaged me at some point. He going to get that time. Somebody from his team messaged me at some point, and I forgot to respond.

1:00:53I'm pretty sure. I'll be forgetting you, Norris. Now, you know the crazy part? People be wondering, right, Adam? Shooter from Avalon. Adam, let me ask you something. is for the people. People always say, how does WAC know all this information about so many individual people? How do I know, Adam? Because you sit on the phone all day? No, how do I know? How do I get the information? People just hit you up. Bro, they fucking give it to... Shooters right now, I guarantee if I open that up, he's sending me some information. Really? Watch. You see, I haven't opened it up. I'm opening it up. I guarantee you, his little ass is sending me something.

1:01:30Shooter. Look, what is he saying? He said it's the same paperweight from 2019. Bro! Case closed. Look, you've seen it was a blue dot. And people be wondering how does Wack people, I had a dude call me this morning. I recorded this punk ass, I want you to hear it. Trying to give me some information on a motherfucker I ain't never heard of in my life. But yo, did you see this? What's that? So, okay. I don't know. How do I make it? Oh, okay. There we go. So basically I'm looking at four extras, Instagram story yesterday, and I see this and it's a repost of what somebody else posted, but it's basically a clip of four extra talking about the fact that he doesn't drink and smoke.

1:02:18And the person who reposted this kit, this clip Gucci blue 40 said, why no jumper never showed this side of four extras, only the parts that make him look like an animal. and so Forexra reposted this he's never drinking smoke I feel like I personally had that conversation with him like three four times on here now I gotta defend you that's crazy now I gotta defend you look Forexras ain't no script we get a few bullet points if we want to talk about that shit a lot of times we start talking and we out of 20 of them we might hit three or four Forexras sat here and dictated who he was and how he wanted to be seen on camera.

1:03:01Nobody met with bro and was like, hey, we need you to go in there and go crazy. I don't even think you knew he was going to go as crazy as he went. For sure. I mean, I told him plenty of times, like, you know, I tried to get him to talk about all kinds of beef drama and he wouldn't talk about it. Now, not smoking and not drinking, he talked about that all the time. If anything, to me, it was kind of like, okay, do we seriously need to keep talking about this because this is kind of boring. We already get it. You don't drink. You don't smoke. You know, it's like at a certain point we were trying to offer him money.

1:03:32Like, would you take this amount of money to get fucked up? Not that we actually wanted him to. I very much think it's a great thing that he's sober. But when I saw him reposting this, that really made me feel like, oh, okay. So when we do hear from 4X again. When was this? This was, I think, yesterday. It was like yesterday morning. But either way, it made me realize. I wonder what Cam Capone gave him. maybe no the actual interview there's an old interview that forester did but my thing is like now when we hear from forester is he going to be doing the gimmick act of acting like oh no jumper made me talk about fades i didn't want to talk about fades i don't care about fighting fighting is bad i'm not gonna do that no jumper made me talk about all i wanted to talk about was not smoking and drinking for him to do that he made me talk about fades for him to do that mean he was a gimmick and I don't think he's a gimmick.

1:04:25But by him reposting this Instagram post, no jumper was trying to make you look like an animal, man. Not this interview. This part, no, no, no. If Forrest had had his way, we would have been talking about not drinking and smoking. We would not have been talking about Fades. This is what this is saying to me. You didn't know about his Fades to even lead the conversation. You would have to, he would have to. He made his name off Fades. Let's be real. In fact, I mean, Much like Aaron the Plumber, who is now homeless. I mean, probably. You know, he's, like, not doing that good for himself, it would appear.

1:05:01Aaron the Plumber down bad, man. Like, his name is John Vanished. Nobody knows what he's doing. He is off the map. Nobody cares at all. You look at his YouTube, his views are in the absolute shit can. Well, I think he's, like, focused on boxing. I don't think so. I think he's focused on just being a J-Cat. No, because, well, I don't know if he's tied. I can call and check. I know the owners. The company was tying itself to, like, DAZN or whatever. Right? I know the owners over there. But then again, they do want your popularity to be up because that's what drives their ticket sales or their pay-per-view.

1:05:43His popularity is about as low as it could possibly get. Aaron the plumber. And, you know, King Pills, same deal, bro. Yeah, Mick's. Hold on. Wait, wait, hold on. You told me I was full of shit. I told you, and I get what you do. If the gimmick, it got a spark for 70 days, you would take 55 of them. You don't give a damn if they phase out. But me and you both know the gimmick shit at the table doesn't last long because you got to keep coming up with the gimmick. One thing about Brick's laugh was his laugh. You're right? That was him. he didn't even think about he didn't have to think about doing that but that was part of his character and personality that made people know why brick was a good consistent source of content and presumably he will be back at some point but is because he actually has an interesting whimsical funny intelligent perspective on street shit so somebody gets shot there's some kind of drama there's some story to talk about a lot of people just have the most basic bare bones opinions and they'll just say you know uh you know just like uninteresting things brick to me was always the one person who would say something that was more like what the most gangster dude you know would say off camera that would never say it on camera and brick would say there and say the thing that is like it sounds horrible it sounds fucked up but it's actually true it's actually how things go in that world aaron the plumber on the other hand is just a yoked fucking dumb-dumb who has nothing to offer.

1:07:20He's just got muscles. He's talking about fades. Besides that, as soon as that wears off, okay, we don't care. At least Forrestra kind of like got the heart of gold. I feel like people fuck with Forrestra more as a person. You know the dude that was on his case keeps texting me. He has his ID on the case. He said, remember I told you he had to get his ID to fly? He didn't want to come out. Let's get him out of here, man. We got to fucking finish him in the plumber. He's in Oklahoma, that case. Let's do it. Well, you heard it, bro. What's your beef with Ann Hefe? I asked Ann Hefe about it yesterday on the show.

1:07:52He wouldn't talk about it, but I heard he made a video about it. You guys were getting into it. Somebody told me it was a video. I ain't seen it. Yeah, I didn't see it either. But I heard you were mad at him. You guys were getting into it. No, I don't know. You know, listen, Adam, me and you text back and forth, right? That don't necessarily mean I'm going to go to YouTube. You ever see me go to YouTube? Uh-huh. So I don't know. Did he go to YouTube and say something? I don't know. I didn't see it. It would be news to me. We didn't touch back and forth several times on different things. I may not agree with it.

1:08:24He may not agree with it. But shit, he mad? He didn't seem mad when we were on the podcast together. Maybe he used me as some clickbait. I mean, because I should have watched it so I could fill you in on all this. But if you got some you shit, I don't know. You know, I expressed, you know, my thing like this. if I see something if I don't fuck with you right I won't say nothing and me not saying nothing triggers the plot right but if I fuck with you I'm going to tell you and then we have our conversation about it and then I'm done with it that's it so I don't know I don't know I ain't I'm not going to I haven't read no content on NFE I gotta look into it a little bit more how do you feel do you see the video of Queso's father snitching on him Yeah, but he's been cooperating.

1:09:13He telling you why he telling. I'm taking it at, I think when K-So was on the street, maybe he didn't look out for him or something. Because he said he's sick, he got two, three kids out there, and the DA or the defense attorney brought it up that he's been cooperating. Well, because the whole thing about it is that the excuse that he used to snitch on his son was what kind of son is going to let his dad right away in jail and not tell them that the father had nothing to do with it the thing is is that you can't say the father had nothing to do with it when your whole argument is that you did not do it and that there's nothing that there was no getaway driver because i didn't do it so his dad is like really like just straight up snitching on his son but trying to use this bullshit excuse of you should have told them that i didn't have anything to do it even though anybody who thinks about it for five seconds is like, well, he can't clear you if he wasn't there.

1:10:14So what his dad like basically maybe could have beat this charge if he had been willing to what like sit in jail for a couple years waiting for trial, but it wouldn't have mattered anyway because the fucking getaway driver is also testifying. Well, at the end of the day, bro, I had this conversation this morning. I was talking to creep about this. he was telling me that one of the dudes you do business with what's the dude got the merch with all the drug dealers and shit on it oh a solly yeah i guess they was pressing him really out here right press a milo certain neighborhood that we all familiar with was pressing so i guess he's in new york now and i think your other guy is down in houston dub right yeah so well they both have separate stories but they're still out here as well.

1:11:04Yeah, but they're like cross promoting each other. Shit. I guess the schools like they did your man and said they done letting the the attire in the schools, but I'm telling people right now, bro, this is real shit. The civilians, the non-street gang members, bro, they not telling y 'all, but they are turning y 'all in. There's no repercussions no more about when somebody's snitching, right? Even if they're on the paperwork, nobody cares. It's just content. So everybody better start adjusting to being a normal, regular citizen because when these people start this movement... From athletic stuff like a full-court pickup game, swish, to athletic-ish stuff like a half-mile stroll.

1:12:01Get those steps in. Head to Sierra or Sierra.com for the brands you want at the prices that let you do it all. From athletic to athletic-ish, Sierra's got it. This episode is brought to you by Facebook. So you were scrolling on Marketplace, and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message, and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew. Well, a community cycling group. the thing about facebook you might find more than what you're looking for from a browse to a bike ride this summer find more on facebook we got our own big homies the feds and the lapd and whatever the police departments are all y 'all in trouble i mean you got to give it to queso because he really lived being the definition of a real deal drill rapper killer like whatever king vaughn's talking about all these songs whatever blow down little jeff talking about these songs queso was living that life he was really going and mowing down his ops in public people who were making songs about it and then he made songs about these killings made an album cover that had pictures of all these people that him and his gang had killed and then he got arrested for it and he's probably going to do life for it.

1:13:23And what do you have to say about that? I mean, hey, he's the real deal. He was living up to it, right? This is what I got to say, but I don't know it. You dumb as a motherfucker. Well, okay, that is included. That's included in what I said. Nobody knows you was going to pump it like, hey, this is the way to go. I'm not pumping it up. I'm just laughing at him. One of you ninjas need to go do the same shit. I'm laughing at him. Learn from his ignorance and stupidity. Right? There ain't nothing to laugh about. I don't encourage anyone to go kill their ops in broad daylight. I encourage a much more sneaky approach.

1:13:53You're telling me he did all these things and then put the shit on the album cover and talked about it in songs. Almost no attempt to hide it in any way. That's why I have to laugh at him. And I can't look at it like the way that even someone like King Vaughn was doing a reasonable job of obscuring the murders that he had committed. You know, I got to respect that at least a little bit. But if you're going to go out and kill people and then just like put on a show for the cops in this little ass area and just brag about it, I can't do anything but laugh when you end up getting convicted. I'm not mad about you laughing.

1:14:27OK, because it's dummy. I do not encourage this. Yeah, there we go. Let's let's see my whole mission. I don't know if you've been keeping up. I've been exposing a lot of like OG street dudes. Yeah. Who's this old crypt dude that you exposed? He's a rat. We got his work. I heard that was a big one. And he was like pretty respected. Yeah, but it don't matter. He's from Compton. Right. But here goes the thing. Right. A lot of our youngsters and you've seen this. You when you was in the BMX world, I'm pretty sure it was riders before you that they talked about. People idolize you like, yo, I want to be like him or better than him.

1:15:06I want a better bike. And I want to do better tricks. I want to do more extreme tricks. Right. That's my thing. I'm not exposing people because I got beat with you. I'm exposing you because you out here in front of these kids, like who you are, what you stand for, your persona, what you represent, right? Is the way to go. And the whole time, 20 plus years ago on paper, from what we know, what we read, you went bad. Use a motherfucking rat. So here it is. These kids are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you telling people what they can and can't do, but you already did it. And what we did is we dug deep into his stuff to a point to where I set him up.

1:15:44We let a little bit go. And I know he thought the little bit we let go was all we had. And then he was like he started saying what it was and what it wasn't. And then 600 and another one of our exposures went down to the federal building, film themselves going on his his name, his number, printing the paperwork. What a lot of people didn't know is the day before the arrest of him and the other people, he was already arrested and wrote a declaration agreeing to cooperate and said why he would cooperate because of his child. Or let me tell you what's even more spookier. September 5th is the day he agreed to cooperate when he got arrested.

1:16:26He got kids, Adam. Because of his child. September 6th, and I done got calls from a couple of his crimeys. They had no idea they had already apprehended him September 5th, and he agreed to cooperate. The declaration was the missing piece of the puzzle. Let me tell you what's crazy. 22 years later, on the same day, I don't know what this is, was the demise of his child. Oh, shit. Wait, so you're saying he... September 5th, 2001, he got arrested with his child in the car. His child was the reason he agreed to cooperate per the declaration signed by him. September 5th, 2023. Now, I don't know because there's a lot of people on that RICO or on that indictment that don't look like us and don't speak English.

1:17:21They tend to send messages. It's just ironic, 22 years later, on the same date, September 5th, something happened to his child. That is crazy. But you're out here. You want to spread the word. Oh, no. Anybody. Any of y 'all, look, bro. Any of y 'all, you heard Freeway Rick. I did it to Rick. Like, bro, look, I don't respect nothing that you did. But so are you, does Freeway Ricky have the image of a snitch now? He's a rat. Yeah, we exposed him. He told me to go get it. I went and got it. What would he say in response to that? I got the paperwork. I don't give a damn what he say. We got the work.

1:18:01But I feel like he's not out here. Like, if you were to interview him and say, like, so you told, he's not going to go along with that, right? It don't matter. The paperwork says you ain't got to go along with nothing. The paperwork is going to say you told, and that's it. Now, what we do have is we got a lot of the older dudes who, like, they see it, and we're realizing that a lot of the older dudes, and this situation with this one last dude is making us go pull up paperwork on a few more because the ones that act like they don't see what we're reading, usually it's because they told to. But I mean, that's our thing, bro.

1:18:39Like, you know, like just lay low. But if we see you out here perpetrating and influencing these kids and we dig and look into you and see you went bad, your ass going to get it. and people seem to be interested in that clip. That shit did like over 50 ,000. Crazy. There's me in the living room chilling. I don't know who the dude is. I got to get familiar. Should I interview him? I'm going to do what you want. You want to put some more light on him, he boy, because we got some more over here. You know, we got to. Anytime you file paperwork to seal your file, nobody from the streets is supposed to be filing paperwork to seal their file.

1:19:21on the situation you're not supposed to do that let me speak to the audience out there just because i know there's some people that might watch the adam and wax show that don't watch the tuesday show that don't watch the news we have something going on on august 9th where we are finding the next great no jumper host if you want the information go to my instagram adam 22 scroll down a little bit you'll see the flyer for it but on the 9th we are going to be having 30 40 50 i'm not sure exactly different aspiring no jumper hosts in this building and throughout the day an all-day live stream you were doing it somewhere else no we are doing it here and throughout the course of the day we will be systematically eliminating the different contestants until we find the next great no jumper host and then we will be giving them a contract so that they can continue to do content on no jumper for six months so you're doing um man you should have like created a goddamn Twitch account.

1:20:24No jump at Twitch. You should have did that shit on Twitch, but it's going to go up. I mean, we're live streaming it on YouTube and potentially kick as well, so fuck Twitch. Twitch is the same shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely going to go up. You're doing this for like 12 hours? That's the idea. I was thinking about making it a multi-day stream where we're going to have a whole sleep stream and everything. I think you should do it like 8 to 8, bro. 8 to 8. I think we're going to start at 10 and we're going to go however long we need, but I'm going to try to get it done by midnight. I'm going to tell you why.

1:20:49you can't bro, bin laden listen, bin laden? no, listen bro 8 to 8, I'm going to tell you why those people that are serious, are going to get their ass up you want to see that you want to see who's serious why not do 10 instead of 8 10 people are online more, people don't really want to wake up at 8 to watch a live stream no, they'll wake up for that some would, but because where we at bro California? bro, listen your ass going to be live you got a few obstacles and I'm curious to see how it's going to go but this shit get dark this shit get dark over here bro 10 o 'clock 12 o 'clock man listen bro this whole area gets spooky over here bro the sun is out by 10 o 'clock and that night I'm fucked up 10 a.m.

1:21:42I'm cool with that that's why I'm saying 8 to 8 you think just being out here in the valley you better have a bunch of randoms bro like really the people will be systematically eliminated throughout the day and our security team is going to be ushering them to their vehicles and whatnot do you think people just gonna leave you don't think you're gonna develop a crowd we're gonna block off the whole uh parking lot so that there can't be any parking lot pimping if you will and that we don't have just like a parking lot full of goons fraternizing with each other and one of the rules is that you can't bring anybody with you everybody's gonna be searched so no guns If you do that, actually, I'm going to be real.

1:22:20I would Uber restrict them. You can't even drive. We thought about that, but the thing is... First of all, the parking, if you... But the parking is chill on the weekends. There's like barely any cars out here. Now, them coming by themselves might work, but if you don't, you're going to look up, bro. Listen, you're talking about... You'll get a thousand people coming through here. Well, it's not like we're giving out the address. You have to get approved in order to be allowed to come. Yeah, but once you give them the address, it's gone. Everybody out there, please do not think that anything is going to happen to you.

1:22:54You are not going to be in danger physically. We are going to take care of you. Please don't listen to him. He's scary. I don't give a fuck. I'm just telling you about them because these people do not follow simple instructions. Oh, they will when Big 22 is the one doling them out. And we've got our whole security team running the block. Who's your security team? Don't worry about it. Which, by the way, can we talk about what happened to your security over the weekend? What happened to my people? No, the Pitbull dude. Oh, just the other day. What happened? You met Pitbull. Yeah, he got a photo with me.

1:23:32I met him at Blueface show. And here as well. Remember when Captain Tezariot was here, he came. What happened? Motorcycle accident, man. See, that's what I was saying. I was looking at his story after it happened. I want to beat his ass right now. Really? I really want to fucking wake him up and whoop his ass because he usually listens to me and one of the reasons I kind of eased up of like nagging him about it because the motorcycle club he joined I know the president real good. Well, you know of him. Greg the barber. The one knocked Shug out? Greg the barber. And we're real close and I told him like, bro, like because I understand the motorcycle set.

1:24:13I used to be on it. And I'm like, bro, he got a temper and his ass a go and he's very protective of his people. So kind of stay in the middle of that. That's kind of what I was worried about because Pitbull never believed in carrying firearms. He's so good with his hands. If he get up on you, you're going to think your ass was shot. And, you know, I feel like if you're in your 30s and you really didn't have experience riding bikes, I'm not going to go try to do the shit you know how to do on them BMXs. Right. You shouldn't be on them. But I understood it. Like, you know, gave him something to do.

1:24:52You know, pit bulls, NOI, FOI. You know, it was another group of brothers, and he was part of a good squad, a good team. But I just, I didn't, I wasn't comfortable with him. And it's not even about him, Mr. Drunk. drivers, it's the other people doing shit and all that comes with experience. It comes with experience of knowing what to do. It's only two type of riders. Those have been down. Those is going down. I didn't been down. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't did all the dumb shit, ride my hog doing 160, 170 miles per hour. And, you know, and I, and I ain't got no, no fair or nothing. I got a motherfucking, I ain't got nothing.

1:25:30It's just me. Right. I got a huge, big-ass motor on my bike, but they said a female did a U-turn and ran into him, which leads me to believe either he was flying or he just wasn't paying attention. Yo, when I was 16, I had two of my favorite BMX riders die back-to-back. Joe Tissio, rest in peace, he died right before 9-11, and then this dude, Adam Armstrong, died probably by the time I was 18. who's another dude from new york and i was a massive fan of them and i remember at this young age saying even at like 16 or 17 i said i'm never riding a motorcycle because that shit is just so dangerous i already knew mad people who had died from it and every year that goes by i get more and more confident in that decision because i've just known so many great people who died on motorcycles over the years and i understand how much people love it i'm sure it's fucking insanely fun i look at people who do it and I you know sometimes kind of want to have that feeling with the wind in your fucking hair but man I'm just I don't think you understand you know Pitbull was just on the show we just called him about Young Magnificent and he's the one brought him not Gumby that was Pitbull a couple weeks ago but that's my daughter's personal security now here's the thing about that Pitbull originally from Harlem 30s Crip.

1:27:00Okay. You know, he crossed over to NOI, FOI, Nation of Islam, Food of Islam. You know, he had rank. Food of Islam is the security side of NOI. They do security. Pitbull's work just was with Kanye, Rihanna, Detail. He lived with Detail pretty much. Ray J, Brandy, he didn't did security work. So for me to trust him with my daughter, and he's with her when I'm not with her. I'm talking about since she's been like 14. right? That tells you something about his character because everything about him says, whack, he come from Crippen. You ain't supposed to and all that. But it's just who Pitbull was as a man, as an individual.

1:27:39He defined himself as trustworthy, extremely loyal, cool as hell, humble giant, unless you were a threat to him or his people. And it's just like, It hit me, but it hasn't hit me because I don't want to believe it. Nephew was 36, 37 years old. You know what I'm saying? And I see he was trying to make his way. He got his top rocker. You know, you got to ride. Get your top rocker, bottom rocker, then your actual patch. Only thing I can tell myself is, shit, maybe it's an honor to go early. Maybe we the ones in hell. So, you know, what I lost in the physical, I gained in the spiritual. Brother Gregory X, as the Nation of Islam, Fruit of Islam knows him.

1:28:29You know, Pitbull. Pitbull was one of the ones that started the hunting side with me. You know what I'm saying? He got an original room over there, a good burger, you know. So, you know, we got hundreds and hundreds of hours of clips of his voice and him getting into it with people. That's my birthday party, I believe, right there. Yeah, right, yeah. Yeah, you know, he's always very close to me and the family and to everybody. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, man, I got that call like one in the morning. I thought it was a prank call. I hung up on him. Oh, shit. The number kept calling, and they texted me, and it was his baby's mother, Jasmine.

1:29:09And, yeah, man, it was like, man. Nah, super sad, man. Yeah, it's crazy. I didn't get to hang out on him that much, but just being around him. He was cool as fuck. Hell yeah, it was super solid, yeah. Cool, cool, man. So rest in peace. Brother Greg reacts to the nation. Baby crazy old to the Harlem's. You know what I mean? And shit, you know, gone but not forgotten, man. So wait, is this real? And yeah, rest in peace. But YBN Namir responds to Los Angeles boxer Christopher Lovejoy seemingly snatching his chain? No, what happened was some other people did what they did. They took Namir's shit? Yeah.

1:29:47Or what, one of his guys possibly? Because there's a lot of YBN chains. I think they took, they might have got him. They crawled 600. I think it's 600 could get in the middle of getting the chain back to him. Okay. And so 600 went and posted it. Hey, they got your chain over here. Boom, boom, boom. This was like maybe a couple years ago, 18 months, two years ago. Oh, okay. And I guess he ain't snatching. 600 ain't snatching nobody, Jay. He was just trying to get it back to him. But I think they thought he was trying to sell it back to him. And I think when he went over there, he like, yo, I think it's a better thing for y 'all just to give it back to him, especially if y 'all are trying to get in this music game.

1:30:31Maybe y 'all can kind of come together because the dudes 600 met wasn't the ones that actually did the snatching. You know, that shit get to going down the line. I mean, they're like, well, who do we got that can middleman this? And 600 took his ass over there. I told him don't do it no more because they can hit you with some of that shit like two years ago. But 600 didn't snatch that. All right. We got to help bring Namir back to his prior level of celebrity. I feel like people have counted them out. We need them back. I feel like his music is pretty good. These dudes get two summers. You know what I'm saying?

1:31:07They get two summers. if they're lucky. Nowadays they get two summers if they're lucky and you out of there. If you don't reinvent yourself to be doing something different whether it's television, whether it's your tour whether it's your merch, you know what I'm saying? You get two summers and your ass is out of there. Yeah, more often than not. You get what I'm saying? Once you hit three summers then you definitely are starting to look like an OG in this shit. Even people who realistically like are not giving old head at all still once they made it two three years you're trying to look at them like damn you you beat the odds you apparently you got some because everybody else is just a meme where it's like we like him we're interested in him i see it so hard where i'll interview somebody or they put out their first couple music videos they get tons of views the interview does super good and then like the lefty gunplay thing we interview him gets a million views his views are doing good on his youtube and everything and then it doesn't take long before it kind of wears off.

1:32:06Unless there's something that's holding people on for a longer. Somebody put up a goddamn freestyle of him rhyming over a Jeezy, a young Jeezy beat. And people in the chat, I don't know, maybe they talking about fire. This dude is hot garbage. But I think his run is going to be his character and personality. The rapper shit, I don't think that's going to do it. That has got him to where he's at. I think he needs a crossover in the television. Bro, I think he'll be funny as hell sitting in a podcast seat interviewing somebody. Lefty interviewing somebody his way, his answers, how he talks. People will watch that crazy shit.

1:32:59Okay, you're describing the career switch up that we've seen many times over but it's usually like a rapper who has a long sustained career like a fat joe and a jade kiss where they're able to actually leverage their fame and the fact that people love them with lefty i mean that's a lot less of a sure thing also like you're talking about with with fat joe and jade because you're like we can't people with clear minds adults grown up i don't think lefty's in that position jade kids with lefty that's a disrespect both of them my friends don't do that. Plus, I got to go to Miami tonight. Don't do that, bro.

1:33:35Okay. Joe, my apologies. Jada, my apologies. I'm saying that he's not on their level in terms of being beloved. No, I think he could grow. He will be a bigger personality off the rapping microphone. If You can get this dude just to read 10 things. Hey, yo, man, so fucking hoggy. Yo, what the fuck's up with you and comfy? No, people can watch this crazy shit. Okay, would you rather watch him do that than listen to them horrible-ass rhymes? Oh, for sure, yeah. That's what I'm saying, bro. That much is evident by the fact that his interviews do better than his music. Okay, that's all I'm saying. Even though the interviews don't do good anymore.

1:34:21At some point in time, Adam, you know. You got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them. I watched you clear the building one time. You just cleared the building. I said, bro, what the fuck? He said, hey, I looked at it. Financially, it didn't make sense. You got to know when to hold them and know when to fold them. When you cleared the building, you reset. It's more different people in the building, right? So what I'm saying with him, at some point he has to understand. Like, bro, what did the last album do? The one we tracked did like 500. He did better than Jim Jones, though. I think he did like 800 on the second one.

1:34:50He did better than Jim Jones. At some point, he has to say, okay, what's working for me? Like, bro, I don't give a damn. I can see cooking with Lefty. People will watch this crazy shit. Just let him be him. He's trying too hard trying to rap because he really can't rap, like, respectfully. Yeah, I'm not bullish about his rapping. Yeah, bro, I seen this shit. I'm like people putting fire. I'm like, what the fuck do y 'all mean? Fire. Lefty don't play. Lefty, lefty, yeah. Lefty gun play. Lefty, I'm not on the right. Yeah, lefty, when I fight, I hit you with the lefty. Like, what the fuck? No, watch me whip.

1:35:36Watch me nay-nay. And he does like a weird thing with his hands when he does it. But then his facial expressions, I'm like, yo, dude's a funny dude. But he just needs to get in that lane. Bro, if that dude went and did a zoo segment, the lefty show, that shit's going to go. It's possible. Okay, I want to ask you about this as possibly our last topic. So, Hawk, he appeared on the pod with you. He's been on the news twice since then. I'm glad that happened because I told him if he behaved himself and was respectful, and I told him, I said, look, you come on there with some loose cannon shit, Adam ain't gonna fuck with you.

1:36:17You come on there and I said it's a good chance Adam will let you come on to the... It's interesting because we're trying him out. Now obviously he's already got this animosity with Gumby but apparently they've had some kind of behind the scenes conversation where they're not going to talk about each other anymore. Well that started here but that's out because I don't know what happened. I woke up this morning with text from Gumby. I'm like what you talking about? The dude called me Big Bub or whatever the hell his name is. He called my phone and it was crazy with him because he said, yo, whack, man, you got in Hoover business.

1:36:53I said, hey, bro, I helped squash the beef with him and Gumby. And I cleared Gumby's name. I didn't have to call that dude to clear Gumby's name. I cleared Gumby's name. We kind of set ass, hawk ass up in the scenarios and like, well, then you shouldn't be like that. That was why the whole episode was funny was because by the end of it, it kind of felt like you had pivoted from being totally on his side to kind of being against him. Well, let me ask you something. Yeah. You think I would have got him at this table if I would have told him what I was going to do? No. You know me. If I'm on some bullshit, I'm going to stay on the side of bullshit.

1:37:25Okay. So I knew what I was trying to do. People could say what they want, and I put out a lot of fires. So I'm telling this dude, bub, bub, I cleared Gumby's name from the gay shit, and I got him and Hawk to agree to stop speaking on each other. and then I believe Hawk went on the news and he addressed it again in a positive way, right? So Bob says, yeah, but as Hoover Bennett, I should have been the one to do that. I said, Bob, you couldn't do it. They don't respect you. I said, Gumby texted me and said, you a dude with a podcast, with a washed up struggling podcast. I said, you gotta understand, Hawk was able to come in here because in his head, it's something I could possibly do for him.

1:38:08He's rapping. He wants to podcast. So guess what? I'm not from Hoover, but he would listen to me. So he listened and it worked. I said, you're not happy with the results. He said, I'm just not happy that it was you that did it. And it wasn't me. I'm like, what kind of crazy shit is that? So it just had to be, I don't give a fuck who made peace or who cleared something. If you were able to get something done and I came amongst my people salute. So, but I woke up this morning, Gumby talking about your whack. you made Hulk an exposure an exposure I'm like what the fuck are you talking about? Did you?

1:38:43No I didn't make no exposure like our exposure team. He was false claiming exposers. No he said that? No but I'm just wondering. No but then I looked up on Hulk's page and he's exposing some shit. Now the things he's exposing I've been had but I shared him with Gumby I said yo Gumby y 'all need to have a conversation about this. He got one of Gumby's best friends in the interrogation room and they sent me like 30 clips and you know it don't look right to me but Gumby seems to think it's something to it but I'm like bro y 'all need to have a conversation if y 'all both had a standstill about violating each other Hawk feel a certain way about this have a conversation with him and I think they told Hawk don't laugh they told Hawk the interview you looking at is AI wait what what interview he was watching an AI interview with who bro they told Hawk that's AI that ain't the homie and I'm like Gumby you can't tell him this shit bro bro this is him bro you can press that shit bro I get this 30 clips.

1:40:04That ain't no AI. You can put... So this is a clip of somebody allegedly snitching? That's Gumby's right hand, his best friend. Okay. And they're trying to say that this is not real. Yeah, but it's like 30 clips. Did you hear what he said? No, it's hard to imagine somebody making an AI of this, but... Listen, did you hear what he said? No, I don't care what. Yeah, that dude said... what we talked about here is between me and you. You don't tell a detective, you know, street niggas get ahold of that shit, bro. Bro, bro, it's a gang of them. So I'm like, so now Hulk guest thing got mad. Cause I'm like, damn, where the hell?

1:40:48Why is Gumby texting me? Talk about, I made Hulk an exposure. Cause I'm telling the Hulk, like, you know, I'm a holler at Gumby and I sent all the clips to Gumby. Like, bro, you know, this is his issue. Holler at him. and I guess when Gumby told Hawk all that shit is AI that ain't real so what I was going to say before you just went on a 10 minute rant was that now that Hawk is on the news a couple times it's like you got Trey Wade coming out of the woodwork to say that Hawk is not official what's that fool's name Trigger Bird or whatever was saying the same thing it just feels like we're seeing like an instantaneous reaction from a lot of Hoovers who are kind of having this opinion of him and I don't know it's just kind of like a weird decision to make but Hawk we've seen it over and over that it's like if people become members of the No Jumper team who are not well liked or appreciated in their community a lot of times even if we don't make the decision they end up separated at some point what?

1:41:52He released the footage of him and the man and the thing with a man cooking butt naked why do we think that that was with a man but yeah he was cooking naked well I think right now what Hawk's about to do and I don't know I ain't talked to him but I believe because I seen him with damn homies and they talking about he's exposing the homosexual behavior that's going on with a lot of people in his neighborhood I don't know I just seen a clip Young Hawk says that the leader of the Hooters is a booty bandit you know Gumby don't like this kind of attention Yeah, I don't know. That's what I'm saying.

1:42:27I didn't even hear it. So he was actually saying this to... I didn't hear it, bro. I got to hear this. Over line. And I ain't never seen no... I don't know the nigga. You feel me? I don't know him. I just know they say he's like 5 '2". He's like 150 pounds. He a little itty-bitty dude. He called life two weeks before going home. I mean, excuse my language to the LGBTQ community, but he called life two weeks before coming home behind a homosexual. So, I mean, you know, and that's what's funny about this politic and shit is that y 'all can allow men to sit here and mess with a transsexual in front of you, you know, and think that that's cool.

1:43:14This is way before the LGBT stuff came into effect. This is just the way he was getting down and the way a lot of people was getting down. You feel me? The leader of the Hoover's around? You know, when people hear about it, like when certain shit get out, like, oh, this dude with a booty band, this dude with a booty band, but what about these OG niggas that's outside, bro, that's still on that right now? You feel me? That shit go on in there, and they out here doing that shit. You feel me? So it's just like these other niggas be knowing, they be tying themselves in, not saying that that's going on everywhere, but I know, you feel me, in my section, in prison, the top dog, man, he deep with that homosexual stuff.

1:43:57Wow, I mean, I have no idea who he's talking about, but what a strange claim to just say, hey, the leader of my gang is a homosexual. I mean, I don't know who it is. You see, I'm keeping it real. I'm sending it to Gumpy. I'm like, bro, look, that's all the shit. I'm like, bro, this is all, this is coming from the Hoovers. People be wondering how I get shit. You see what I'm saying? look I'm sending it to him as it's coming to me I'm sending it to him like bro you need to get with your people because he barrated it's just that and other but at the end of the day Trey Wade from what Hawk says got some allegations now I will tell people this if it's just cooking with his pants off who cares with a man what are you saying with a man maybe there was another man in the room no they saying somebody another man was in the room so they're not saying that he's gay or they did anything gay they're just saying that he would a man he cooked food with another man while he was naked they're saying that what he's saying he was with another he spent the night with a man that's he know the man who knew that the great hoover civil war would play out mostly with gay allegations well i'm gonna tell you why it doesn't have to be this way no no see and this this is my whole thing is that people both from within the The Hoovers and outside of the Hoovers basically told me early on when they found out that I was going to interview Gumby, they said, be careful.

1:45:26Because some of these people are not necessarily trying. And now I'm like, I don't want to be in the middle of the Hoover Civil War. I can't blame Hawk because, listen, and I'm going to tell all y 'all, it's a lot of neighborhoods out there, right, that Dane in this circus. When you sit at one of these tables, you are now putting your neighborhood in the circus. Somebody from your set is going to be jealous or know something or don't like. And then here they come. Oh, he got that light. I got this on him. I want the light. And here it comes. And I'm going to be real with you. Like even without even without my my G homies, I got a handful that could holler at me.

1:46:12saying something to me I don't you don't hear me

1:46:19exposing or doing that type of shit with mine I'm just not going to do it if some of them I don't like and I don't really care for but when topics come up I give credit where you know where credit is due my homeboy be crazy I'm not going to say he ain't a G homie from the set But, and he got some flaws that I could really talk about and exploit. But on the flip side, before those flaws, he wanted the dudes that kicked the doors open and put in a lot of work in them county jails and them penitentiaries for my neighborhood so I could walk through the door a little more comfortable, right? So, you know, I leave that where it's at, right?

1:46:59But this clout thing, Adam, and I'm going to be real. I came front. You the goldie of podcasting right now. There's a movie called The Mac. The main character is Goldie played by Max Jr. Dudes is going to come through here and dance for a position. They going to dance, bro. I mean. It ain't nothing you ask them to do. Can they throw it in a circle like T. Ross, son? On that note, we going to check out, bro. No, but you hear about Smack having a thing going on with a trans person? I heard it, but I don't know what they're getting to. Basically, he was getting to the pussy. No, I asked, what'd you call it?

1:47:39What's they talking about? What's the dude, the fake shot in the leg dude exposed that, right? I think it was on his show. Who got a fake shot in the leg? Oh, Dajon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dajon exposed it, but I guess there's some legs to this, ironically. Well, where did Dajon, where did he get it from? Dajon is a friend of many members of the gay community, and he had somebody reach out to him and say, hey, who is this smack guy? he's been liking all of the homegirls photos etc coming up in her DM he's trying to get some pussy now that's what Smack was saying Smack was telling T-Rail he liked somebody's pictures so does that make him I don't think he denied liking him did Smack know that this dude was from the community I think he knew and he was trying to get some anyway so they got like DMs or something going on?

1:48:30I think so I haven't actually seen all the evidence but I think this has been a great reveal we're realizing that Smack is a very freaky guy. Well, maybe he was trying to fix his voice. What? What do you mean? Like with Ursula? Hey, bro, I just watched the new Jurassic Park. How was that? I want to watch the new heaven no more. It was great. They had to get one of the dinosaurs by water, by land, and by air. They had to get this, and it would cure people of certain things. The new Jurassic Park is great. I would go see it a second time. And maybe he feels like something in him from them, that's a him, and he's like pacifying himself by saying this or her may fix him when it comes to it or his voice.

1:49:19Hmm, that's interesting. I don't know, bro. But he did stand on it. He said he liked the pictures, but he was telling T-Rill, you like certain people's pictures. Oh, Dejan. He said you like Dejan pictures and he's openly gay. Does that make you gay? Well, there's been a lot of rumors that T. Rell himself may have been involved in some bisexual activities over the years. Maybe he's trying to fix himself, too. It wouldn't surprise me. Do you think if they told T. Rell, if he spent one night with a transgender, he will have his arm back. Do you think he would do it? Yes, for sure. I don't even think he needs that kind of offer on the table.

1:50:00no I don't think he was openly gay I don't think he's openly gay shout out to my boy Smack I'm very proud of you for coming out the closet and making love to a trans woman on Plug Talk coming next week shout out to WAC100 please drop a like and if they want to tune in to the when you file that lawsuit leave me out of it when they want to tune in to the ACON episode members only it'll be out by the time they see this it'll be out tomorrow or whatever but it'll be out by the time they see this if you want to go watch another episode well you're going and I'm going I got a big meeting to attend tomorrow.

1:50:32I'm very excited about. So I'm out of here. Oh, Christopher Lovejoy. August 9th. First fight in America. Really? This is his first fight in America. Maybe I'll go. You got a couple hundred on it? That's the day of the event here. Oh, that's the day of the event. You got a couple hundred on it? Maybe we can watch the actual fight while we're on stream. That would be fun. I can set it up. Or is it a pay-per-view thing, I assume? Yeah, I can still. You know I'm kind of part of it. Oh, yeah. Give me that illegal stream. I'm going to be on meth streams. Illegal stream? Meth streams? You ever heard of meth streams?

1:51:05Nah, but I don't know. I think I might have took it down, actually. It's not really about meth. I have nothing to do with a meth, a Beth, a Ceph, none of that type of shit. Okay. Shout out to all the MILFs out there. Shout out to everybody with a surrogate. Shout out to Donnie on the boards. Shout out to Flacco, Brandon, all the other overweight co-hosts on this here podcast. make sure you go eat some of these everything 420 edibles because they're gonna sit you on your ass stick a corn cob up your ass much like a carrot and we'll be back like comment subscribe what you took another shot at him oh god damn you matched on hinge you're vibing then her energy completely changes what do you do i'm Raven Smith and I wrote and read a real love story about this exact sitch.

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