The Hoovers Take Over No Jumper! 4xtra Gonna Whoop Adam? OG Gumby Called Out & More

21 Jul 2025 · 2 h 21 min · 48 chapters

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In short

The hosts and guests argue about “Hoover” politics and alleged “plays” in West Coast rap circles, centering on a caller named Gumby who claims connections and influence. They also debate whether T-Rell is acting like a “victim/King Pill” type after a conflict, and they scrutinize Gumby’s credibility, money claims, and criminal-story allegations. The episode includes a long back-and-forth about who “runs plays,” plus a call-in/appearance of multiple Hoover-affiliated people.

Guest backgrounds

The main guest is “Gumby,” a Hoover-affiliated figure who claims he has major money and influence in the community. Another Hoover caller/figure named “Hawk” (and “Polk”/“Poke” mentioned) is brought into the discussion. “King Peele” and “T-Rell” are discussed as relevant figures (not present in the transcript). “Young Magnificent” (107 Hoover) is referenced as someone Gumby allegedly “signed,” but the host disputes this.

Key claims

Gumby is accused of lying about signing Young Magnificent due to timing and relationships. The host claims Gumby’s “community responsibility” talk is hypocritical given alleged lack of support after purported millions. They also allege Gumby’s stories include misinformation (including prison/violence claims) and that he may be trying to stir conflict between factions. A separate claim is that federal authorities watch “gang”-related content.

Notable examples

The Sharp/Loose Cannon/Brick Baby “play vs trolling” argument; the dispute over Gumby’s “Young Magnificent” signing; the discussion of T-Rell forcing AD to respond; and a detailed jail-story about “4Xtra” and a “Hoover” conflict that escalated after a kite and a wayside incident.

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Chapters

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Casual Banter and Aesthetic Comparisons

0:59 to 1:47

Hosts engage in lighthearted discussion and funny observations.

“I was going to say you look like yay until you put the hat on.”

Health Issues and Chiropractic Care

1:47 to 2:45

Discuss health concerns and experiences with chiropractic care.

“is that true wait what is that y 'all i have sciatic nerve damage how what happened i don't I'll just be lifing and at a certain point catch up to you.”

Team Dynamics and Loyalty

2:45 to 3:52

Exploring loyalty and protection within their team dynamics.

“If someone's got the magic remedy, I watch chiropractic videos on YouTube, and it's like damn near like corn to me.”

Conflict and Drama in Media

3:52 to 6:10

Discussion about conflicts involving prominent media personalities.

“But the politics worked against it, right?”

Allegations and Reputation in the Industry

6:10 to 12:22

Analyzing allegations made against various figures in the industry.

“No, you made like stories where We were like, yeah, you fucking my girl.”

Misunderstandings and Realities

12:22 to 14:00

Clarifying misunderstandings surrounding industry interactions.

“At somebody who's supposed to be kind of like on your side, you know?”

Discussing Hoover Talent and Community

14:00 to 15:10

The hosts explore the talent dynamics within the Hoover community and their opportunities.

“Man, we up here talking about this dude Gumby lying and making up stuff.”

Gumby's Controversial Presence

15:10 to 17:10

The hosts debate the implications of having different Hoover personalities on the podcast.

“He said, if you ain't Hoover, don't speak on Hoover, right?”

Gumby's Reputation and Allegations

17:10 to 19:40

An in-depth discussion about Gumby's past, including serious allegations and his impact.

“When Captain Tazariot was here, he was up here.”

Gumby's Money and Community Impact

19:40 to 22:00

The hosts question Gumby's financial decisions and contributions to his community.

“If anybody try to rape me, I'm going to do the same thing.”
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Critique of Gumby's Persona

22:00 to 25:00

A critique of Gumby's behavior and how it reflects on personal values and empowerment.

“When you're looking at this dude at 50 and all his antics and all, you're not telling yourself, like, God damn, bro, like, when can you just be regular?”

The Role of Podcasting in Representation

25:00 to 28:00

Discussion on the role of podcasting in showcasing varied personalities and perspectives.

“Somebody doesn't have to be a huge rapper or a huge comedian or a huge YouTuber to get a spot on this podcast.”

Street Credibility and Snitching in the Game

28:00 to 39:47

Explore the discussion on street credibility, snitching, and past affiliations.

“You said, nigga, you are status quo for survival, right?”

Street Credibility and Snitching in the Game

39:48 to 40:10

Explore the discussion on street credibility, snitching, and past affiliations.

“Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast.”

Tales from the Prison Tier

40:47 to 42:01

Listen to firsthand stories about prison life and confrontations.

“As soon as I get there, you feel me, I get acquainted with the niggas who are on my side of the module.”

A Pivotal Kite and Showdown

42:01 to 44:34

Hear a gripping story about a fight lined up in county jail and its implications.

“I'm like, man, I let myself reach the kite.”

The Tale of 4X and the Wayside Line

44:35 to 46:45

Learn about a pivotal moment involving 4X and the consequences of jail politics.

“He probably was building up, like, strengthening his character.”

Unmasking Steph and His Plays

46:46 to 49:15

Discover the connections between Steph, King Peele, and the intricate schemes at play.

“I'm going to tell you exactly what I told him.”

Gumby and the Fake Persona

49:16 to 51:43

An exploration of Gumby’s character and his influence within the narrative.

“Alshon said the homie Hulk can rap and got him on there and then said, let's get him down there to take him to the neighborhood so it can look like something.”

Cloud Chasing and Fake News

51:44 to 54:44

A discussion on the current trends of cloud chasing and the implications of fake news.

“So you're saying that Steph got the lipstick, Peele got the fingernail.”

Robbery, Survival, and Law

54:45 to 56:00

Engage in a conversation about crime, survival tactics, and the law's role in the aftermath.

“This lines up with what law enforcement told us, too.”

Discussion on Street Dynamics and Violence

56:00 to 59:09

Learn about the complexities of street life and the repercussions of violence.

“I don't want the camera in front of me when I'm doing that.”

Conversations about 4X's Situation

59:10 to 1:05:34

Explore the recent interactions and tensions surrounding 4X and Adam.

“Like if you feel conflicted about what's around you, then you need to move.”

Financial Dynamics of No Jumper

1:05:35 to 1:10:01

Understand the financial challenges and expectations within the No Jumper team.

“So now you moved him into, you did some other little like show with him, right?”

Street Mentality and Miscommunication

1:10:01 to 1:11:23

Exploration of street mentality and miscommunication in confrontational situations.

“And by the time you get to the sixth interview, it's like, so Kendrick and Drake, huh?”

Podcast Dynamics and Internal Conflicts

1:11:24 to 1:13:10

Discussion on the dynamics within the podcast and conflicts arising from guests and content choices.

“I'm not going to see DJ Flip make the money flip.”

Allegations and Accusations

1:13:11 to 1:15:55

Debate over allegations of running plays and accusations within the group.

“But look, what was the play if the police were called on you?”

The Intersection of Street Life and Corporate Dynamics

1:15:56 to 1:19:56

Discussion on how street knowledge intersects with corporate practices.

“Bro, you just really said that last week.”

Mental Health in Prison Context

1:19:57 to 1:24:00

Conversations regarding mental health issues and impacts on street credibility in prison.

“I know that, so I just can't find the paperwork.”

Addressing Allegations Against Gumby

1:24:00 to 1:27:12

The hosts discuss allegations about Gumby's behavior in prison, focusing on mental health and medication.

“Because if we not, they going to sell a selected party ticket.”

Gumby's Criminal Allegations and Responses

1:28:12 to 1:36:40

A deep dive into the rumors and incidents surrounding Gumby's alleged behavior and prison interactions.

“Niggas calling me to come back over there.”

Prison Dynamics and Personal Safety

1:36:41 to 1:38:00

Exploring the complex dynamics of prison relationships, violence, and survival strategies.

“So how long after that did he stab dude?”

Discussing Trial Dynamics and Justice

1:38:00 to 1:41:41

Explore the complexities of legal defense in cases of self-defense and prison dynamics.

“Maybe he just pulled him out to get his hand slapped.”

Gumby's Case and Eyewitness Accounts

1:41:41 to 1:47:42

Delve into eyewitness testimonies and the circumstances surrounding Gumby's case.

“Let's find out how he got that manslaughter unless he told the police that devil stabbed him.”

Allegations and Evidence in Prison

1:47:42 to 1:51:41

Investigate allegations against Gumby and the challenges of navigating prison politics.

“This is not working if it doesn't make him sound bad.”

Gang Culture and Personal Reflection

1:51:41 to 1:52:00

Reflect on gang culture and personal choices within the context of survival and community.

Gang Unity and Internal Conflict

1:52:00 to 1:53:20

Discussion on the dynamics within the Hoover gang and internal conflicts.

“building that's it But this nigga popping it, bro.”

Generational Influence and Leadership

1:53:20 to 1:54:40

Conversations about the role of older gang members in shaping youth behavior.

“Listen, and that's because I do this type of shit.”

Personal Accountability and Choices

1:54:40 to 1:56:00

Exploration of personal choices in gang culture and the consequences of actions.

“We're not out here contributing to the bullshit.”

Conflict Resolution in Gang Life

1:56:00 to 1:58:20

Strategies for resolving conflicts and the challenges of letting go of grudges.

“You been saying, I'm going to whoop when I see you.”

Understanding Set Dynamics

1:58:20 to 2:00:00

Insight into the relationships and tensions between different gang cliques.

“Get off because you know it's going to get...”

The Role of Respect in Gang Culture

2:00:00 to 2:01:40

Discussion on respect and how it influences interactions within gangs.

“Y 'all from the same clique or two different?”

Navigating Online and Offline Conflicts

2:01:40 to 2:03:20

The impact of social media on gang conflicts and personal relationships.

“All right, look, so we're going to move past that, right?”

Challenges of Leadership in Gang Culture

2:03:20 to 2:05:00

Reflections on the challenges of leading within gang structures.

“Y 'all can agree to disagree and stand out each other's space.”

Confrontation and Resolution

2:05:00 to 2:06:00

Debate on confronting adversaries and the implications of physical altercations.

“Man look That's what I'm saying bro Let me tell you something, bro.”

Debating Loyalty and Obligations

2:06:00 to 2:10:58

The hosts discuss the complexities of loyalty and personal obligations within their communities.

“I challenge you to show him what he shouldn't do by killing the slander on the internet.”

Accountability and Reputation in the Streets

2:10:58 to 2:16:44

A conversation about accountability, reputation, and the expectations of individuals in their neighborhoods.

“And that's why we fuck with each other, right?”

The Future of Gang Dynamics

2:16:44 to 2:19:53

Discussion on the evolving dynamics within gangs and the implications of past actions on current relationships.

“Hey, I'm gonna keep it all the way real, bro, because I'm really not no evil nigga, but if you take me there, I'm gonna be the worst picture you've ever seen, bro.”
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1:58Really? When you're in your 40s, you can't be. And so one of your legs is shorter than the other? He swears to God. Oh, but that's not real. Yeah. Even confirmed by multiple of his friends, including the Queen R &B, all said that's not true. I got the same shit. The pain shoots down the back of the leg. It's like numb and crazy tortures, right? Torture. That's from something else. No, that's what it is, bro. It's like where your nerve is kind of touching your spine. My chiropractor, he got me right in Santa Monica. He got me right, for real. Now, Lil Jon got it, too. He got a shot. Yeah, he had to get the cortisone.

2:38You ever got the shot? Nah, I haven't. So you haven't done anything? Not really. So you just going to keep dealing with it until you can't deal with it? If someone's got the magic remedy, I watch chiropractic videos on YouTube, and it's like damn near like corn to me. You know what I mean? like video power factors yeah like watching people get their back reset that's what you dream of hell yeah it's just not in the budget right now or what I mean that's expensive we probably got some volunteers at home right you might need to get one of those little uh little Asian ladies to just step on your back I mean the Asian ladies your girl will love that that I've seen they do more than just step on your back are you doing the happy in this shit.

3:21I'm for real. They got these little ladies that they that's what they do. You're talking about the Thai massage and you really want like the burliest girl you can find who looks masculine who's going to just step on your back. So the chicks you talk to when you when you gip up on them they don't say nothing? I mean I feel like it like gives me a little bit more swag for real. Like some cowboys. And some sauce. Like oh like you feel me? He kind of like he hobbling over here. He means business. Hobble goblin. Yo man so listen. New name unlocked. there's been a lot going on talk about a lot going on what happened yesterday I forgot what happened yesterday oh Adam my guy he's mad at me now here go the problem I get called I protect my guy at all costs I protect the team even the weirdos I don't deal with because they part of the team see I've seen this before happen at Interscope with the 50 cent G unit beef you know what I'm saying Although it was that, it still was like under the same build.

4:22And I saw what it did to the build. Tore the group up. They lost money. Game got bigger. But the politics worked against it, right? I hear academic call in. We all know AK talking about T-Rail. We know who he talking about. And Hefe got AK backpinned against the wall. Because he said, well, what three or five people out here running plays? I wanted to know my damn self. Who want, because now at this point, I'm like, I think we got Ack. Unless something's going on elsewhere we don't know about. This damn fool. Ack said, I ain't talking about Wack. I'm talking about whoever, whatever, whatever. Ack said, well, we want to know the name.

5:08Give us three names, not five. He out of nowhere says, Ack's Wack be lying. Wack run plays. remember when you and sharp fought i never fought sharp no but you conspired to come up with a plan in which you claimed that you fought he but it wasn't true he wanted me to how is that not a play that's the definition of a play he wanted me to and guess what i did put in the battery and loose cannons back how did i do to get at big you hold on that's a play let's just pretending to be cool with this motherfucker. Hold on. Let's discuss that. Play on, play on. First, let's start on with the Sharp thing.

5:49You mean you conspire about plays all the time? No, no. First, let's start with the Sharp thing. There's so many examples. First, let's start with the Sharp thing. When Sharp wanted to do it, I'm the one exposed what we wanted to do. Pretending that I banged your wife. Hold on. That wasn't no pretending. Nobody said you banged my wife. A lot of people still think that. Nobody never said you banged my wife. We just showed you, her, and Lena in a motherfucking room taking pictures. No, you made like stories where We were like, yeah, you fucking my girl. That's trolling. I'm saying trolling is a play.

6:18We got to define these terms. What's the difference between trolling and a play? That's trolling. A play is what Loose Cannon and Brick Baby did. And it took you even a minute to figure that shit out. What? Bro, they kept all that time. They were cool and good all that time. Brick played it out with you, fuck dude. and I told them like, bro, they'd be on the phone two hours at a time, bro. I got to recording. I sent it to you before. I still don't see a reason to believe that. Why would that be the case? What were they conspiring about? And why would they be telling us? Bro, come on, bro. To the world, loose cannon and brick baby polls like it's on on site.

7:01You ain't from the hood. You it is. You that. You this. you dog but the whole time they're doing business and talking on the jack but what loose cannon does is what he did to brick in there every now and then he like i want the clout and he'll just fucking say something or do something right like brick didn't know that dude was finna call out here talking about he messing with a transgender and he had to put him out of sale when he was never in his cell soon as soon as you lie on brick like that where he looking crazy brick tells the truth. Bro, how many times did Luce release a conversation where they're on here at 45 minutes hour?

7:42Talking normal. You don't know. Are you for real? They had been talking and friendlier than people realize. I've been in the suit. Listen, when I came in here that day, bro, I knew what you was going to do. When I told you, yeah, you know, Luce caught Brick slipping today. Me and 600 laughing about the shit. He like, Like, yo, y 'all don't say nothing about it. We laughing about it. So you telling me out of all the Airbnbs and the motherfucking Las Vegas, he rents your Airbnb and you happen to be there setting it up and he pulls up and y 'all get into it. Weren't we talking about how you run plays and now you're trying to convince us that break baby and loose cannon run plays?

8:22Them not the people run plays. But I'm saying you do too. No, I don't. You told me I put a battery in loose cannon back. How? I mean, you like pretended to want to spend time around somebody so that they would crash out on your op. Hey, bro. I don't know. That sounds like a play. Hold on, bro. I don't know if you like woke or not. Me and 600 was two years in, bro. On dude. We didn't need dude. Dude came crawling to us. We were two years in destroying dude. The world knew it. Nobody needed a fucking loose cannon. He came in here and said whatever the fuck he said. I think it's important that we remember the thing that we were talking about when I said that you run plays.

9:07It was basically academics saying that now, because of certain people, and he's alluding to T-Rell, when someone threatens violence or when somebody says that they're going to do something. He said T-Rell got marked out. Exactly, but I'm saying what he was saying was that he no longer fears people on the West Coast because through T-Rail he's seen that when people from the West Coast talk shit, they're not actually planning on doing anything, getting active when they see that person. Academics was obviously trolling trying to get a response from T-Rail by making it seem like he now believes that the entire West Coast is pussy.

9:43He wasn't controlling. No, no. T-Rail did some bust-ass shit. I'm never going to argue with you on that. Bro, not only did he go at act, He called AD and pretty much forced AD to do and say something he really didn't want to do. Forced AD to burn his bridge with the biggest name in media. That's what I'm saying. Which, from my perspective, AD was quite lucky to have. Is that for sure? Like, relationship clash? I mean, who knows? It could come back from the dead. But, like, if you and Ak were on such good terms that you could just call into a stream anytime, you would probably want to preserve that relationship.

10:22That's a worthwhile thing. I don't think when AD seen it. That was taken. AD had to do it because he knew that it would look like to do shit like AD, but AD had to take T-Rell's back because already had this narrative going, this victim narrative. You don't know. Cause you don't watch all the comments on the short buzz girl page, but, uh, or not the comments, but the videos. She like, basically AD had already kind of been smeared as not standing up for T-Rell because T-Rell feels like I just go at him and I don't go at pun or AD or smack or, or, or do know the same way I come at him. So he feels like none of those other guys have his back because he'll be coming clapping at me.

10:58Meanwhile, all of them are like, well, he didn't say shit about me, so I don't really care. I'm not going to comment on it. And then that basically makes him feel like he's on an island. He's the odd man out, even though he realistically is the one who brought the most clout to the situation at one point, even though now he is a loser. Now I got to start agreeing with something I never agree with. because if T-Rail feeling like that, he ain't no Hoover because a motherfucking Hoover automatically comes into all situations feeling like everything is against him because they alienated themselves from everybody.

11:35Well, he plays the victim. So, I mean, in that way, what you're saying is true. He's always like, well, he's supposed to be the one victimizing. You're right, but that's not very Hoover. He's supposed to be victimizing. The ways of a Hoover, when you come in and you talking about that's what you are, you know you're coming into a situation that not only nobody else going to fuck with you, but even you got internal problems within the cliques that may not fuck with you. So for him to say, hey, man, this dude is coming at me. Y 'all not going to help me? And he don't handle this business? That ain't how they do it, bro.

12:08This is just not. But he came back home firing. And this nigga honks. But yo, that's why, okay, T-Rell, to me, is now looking a lot like King Pill. Hold on. Because they both took some abuse on a podcast and then lashed out at somebody else. At somebody who's supposed to be kind of like on your side, you know? And then you had this Gumby dude calling in lying. What'd he say? Dude said, I signed Young Magnificent for 107 because of what I had going on with Big U. See, when a motherfucker tell a lie, right, they don't never look into the lie they going to tell before they tell it. I signed Young Magnificent in 2023, 2022.

12:50If that's the case, nigga, schoolyard don't get along with rolling 60s at all. I signed Blueface in 18. Right? Me and Big U were still good. Right? So I don't know what you talking about. I signed. Nigga, I ain't never in life came to the who was to have a meeting with y 'all about nothing. I came over there, did a video because they asked me to come over there. Baby Crazy O from Harlem 30, Original Crip, brought his cousin, Young Magnificent, to my studio and asked me to listen to his music. I seen Gumby one time in my life, over 10 years ago. He was stranded in a parking lot of San Bernardino, couldn't get in the club.

13:30And out of pure love, I got him in the club, gave him a bottle, and went my way. And ain't never seen him since then. But why would that be a move that has anything to do with the, I don't know, nigga. I ain't, you ain't never seen a pack of Hoover's around me. I know who I know from where I know him from, but I don't know. I don't know what he talking about. Like, I mean, I thought, but Gumby also thinks that I basically empowered for extra crypt, Mac and brick baby in order to like get at the Hoover's, which is honestly not true. And the best argument to that, that I was thinking of the other day is like undeniable mega star power and all those three people.

14:05or extra crit mac and brick baby all people that realistically do a lot of views the people like them a lot etc maybe took a little bit of time with brick to build him up but with the other guys that was off the back and so it's like it's not like like who is the hoover dude that has so much talent that i'm avoiding and that i should have gave it opportunity and i haven't it's just that that's not really how i work you already shed light though on like even uh terrell and smack like being from that community without even caring or noticing or being worried about it at all Terrell's brother. Right?

14:38Big deal. I don't get what they... Speaking of the Hoovers. Yo. Man, we up here talking about this dude Gumby lying and making up stuff. I wish he was around. Where you at? Man, shit, I'm out here in Burbank, bro. You in Burbank? How far are you away from No Jumper? I don't know. Shit, send me the address. What's the address? Pull up. I'm going to have the homies in front. I'm going to have the homies in front. I need you. Text it to me real quick. All right. Give me. All right. Okay. So now we're finished. Who's up? That's Hawk. That's a Hoover. He said, if you ain't Hoover, don't speak on Hoover, right?

15:19So that's Hawk. Where's nephew at? We need another thing. Is that bro that a. Hawk from Hoover. Hawk from like nine dudes. And Gumby just says like. Gumby said what? Okay. But you know, I told you. You told me what? Gumby told me that he would not appreciate it if I had him on the podcast right after. I'm glad y 'all here. What seniority and who the fuck is Gumby to dictate who come to this platform? I'm just concerned with the optics of me. Like, you know what they're going to say. They're going to say, oh, look, you had one fucking dude from Hoover and then another dude from Hoover. They don't like each other.

15:49He's basically hitting them against each other. I just want to absorb. Okay. A, I'm going to look like a fucking liar to Gumby. I'm going to look like I lied to him. Hey, bro, how far are you out? I'm five minutes away. I'm going to send the homies outside. Third of them going to bring you in here. Yo, first of all, Gumby don't run nothing. Gumby up in there, you know what I don't like? He pretty much telling you what you going to do for his community. When are you obligated to do something for people's community? Okay, I agree with that. But you're definitely putting me in the trick bag right now.

16:22How are you in the trick? Listen. Running and playing. Hold on. He just ran and playing. Exactly. He just ran and playing. It's definitely a play. Hold on. It's a hoover play today. Guess what? You brought Gumby up here, right? Right? Yeah. Okay. Well, I brought Hawk.

16:42What's wrong with that? Because this is Hoover. We don't know what's going on. You're trying to create a Hoover war. No, I'm not. What I'm trying to do is show this dude. Hey, look, bro. Stop lying on my name. Nigga, on Hoover and Power Rule. Nigga, you ain't put me with Young Magnificent. Nigga, I bet you won't put that on Hoover that you put me with Young Magnificent. I'll call the man right now. Nigga, everybody know Baby Crazy from Harlem Crip. Said, Unk, that is my daughter's personal security. People call him Pet Boy. You met Pet Boy. He's been here before. Right? When Captain Tazariot was here, he was up here.

17:17Unk, I want to bring my cousin up there so you can listen to his music. This is how I met the dude. He was around my studio two, three months. He got into some, I don't know why you didn't follow it because he did a song and video with the Main Street. Broke Till Friday. Wait, who did it? Young Magnificent. You know, they don't get along. Yeah. I didn't know nothing about it. He wasn't even signed to me. They did it in my studio. They went to each other's parks or whatever. Cool. He came to me. He said, whack, come to the back. The dude that did like 20 songs. He's like, I did it. I want to show you.

17:49I want to be signed to you. I have two requests. What? Number one, we have to be able to call Gumby so he can actually retort to what he's going to say. And number two, I don't want you jumping behind any of the fucking conspiracy theories because I feel like some people are trying to put wild accusations on Gumby that, from my perspective, there's no proof of zesty things. I don't really think that there's justification for this. I don't know what you're talking about. Yo, we need a thing for the homie when he get here. Are you talking about his prison stuff? Well, he killed a booty warrior. Yeah, I heard about that.

18:24Actually, my old boy that I grew up with, I'm going to say it. I'm going to keep it all the way against my old boy Tank from OVG. Lamar Pleasure. What's that, devil? No, we grew up together. He was on the yard when it happened. He watched this go down. He watched it go down, and they all went to the hole together. Whoa. He called me the other day, and he said, whack, I was there on the yard when it happened, right? He said they wanted dude to take some type of case for somebody. He didn't want to do it. old boy scratched him, but they mean like barely tried to stick him. And he said, you're my bitch.

18:59No, he barely hit him, right? He said, now, when they was on the yard, somebody shot a dart at the lieutenant or the sergeant and kind of went in his shirt. So they laid the yard down. When they laid the yard down, cats got to like tossing their knives, right? He said, Gumby, he said, the dude, the bandit dude was coming out from visiting or something. So they had him up there from the search him or whatever. say Gumby jumped up, picked one of the knives up, stabbed dude in the neck or something right in front of him. He say dude defecated, died. He had a knife, dope, all kind of stuff on whoever this OG dude was.

19:36So he said then he went to the hole. So he verified that. That makes him sound like a superhero. No, no, he verified. No, my whole boy. If anybody try to rape me, I'm going to do the same thing. That's American meat style. Tank telling me this. I grew up with Tank, right? Makes me want to get locked up. Tank telling me this, he ain't finna be here. So that's what that, but, but, uh, Hulk, Hulk. There we go. There we go. Okay.

20:01Listen, man. Listen, so at the end of the day, you notice the dude that took King peel them and all that. It's a lot. This guy. Even more small on your name. We're going to have to talk about that too. You know what I'm saying? So here goes the thing, right? Oh, it's a lot going on over there, man. And another thing I didn't understand was him talking about, Gumby got about five, six million dollars, they tell me. That's what I heard too. I don't know what he did for the community. He sued the government over some shit, right? I mean, probably false imprisonment for the 16 years. Was that it? I forget.

20:43He ain't did nothing with that money. He ain't helped the homies, you feel me? Like, period. Is he balling? What did you do with your money, Gumby? What did you do with your money? How long has he had it? When did he receive the 6Ms? He got out in 2011, I believe So, I don't know I went down to 2012 He had some money when I went down You feel me? But he ain't did nothing I mean, my thing is How you gonna come on a platform And then sit here and say He hollered at Adam About putting some podcasts in the set At Manchester Park Right? Nigga, you just had all this money, bro What happened to this money that you had?

21:21That's the big elephant in the room. What happened to the money that you had? Why you pressing niggas about responsibilities that they don't have over there? I'm going to tell you what I did see, though. I'm going to tell you what Gumby really helped me with. Because he's 50 years old. Watching his antics and how he talk and all the mannerisms. Bro, I can't. I'm glad I'm not on that path, bro. What path? Bro, it's the whole talking, the way his demeanor. It's like my homie 16, 17. I like his swag, man. Is that Jim Jones energy? You know why you like it? Because it reminds me of Bobby Brown. It don't show black empowerment.

22:06That's why. It don't show black empowerment. I accept people as they are. It don't show black empowerment. How do you do that? That's why you like it. That's a pretty high bar. Let me ask you something. When you're looking at this dude at 50 and all his antics and all, you're not telling yourself, like, God damn, bro, like, when can you just be regular? I feel like I could learn from almost anyone, and I feel like he might be a little unorthodox, but he's a cool dude, man. I fuck with him. He's like one of the more entertaining people I've had on the podcast in recent memory. Oh, so you think he's another gimmick?

22:45What gimmick? What's the gimmick? You said entertaining. I mean, he's funny. He's fucking funny. He's charismatic. He's got strong opinions. He's a pretty good podcaster. Yo, hey, bro. Pitbull. Yo. Yes, sir. How did I meet Young Magnificent from 107 Hoover? Oh, I brought him to you. Where you from? I'm from 30s. I'm 30 cred. And Young Magnificent, your family is something, right? Yeah, that's my little cousin. Did Gumby have anything to do with me meeting Young Magnificent? No, I don't even know Gumby. Remember Buddha from 5 Deuce called Gumby when they came. That's him, Buddha. Buddha from 5 Deuce, the one called him when they was feeding him the BS, and I get on the phone with him.

23:34I'm like, bro, what you mean I got some business with you? I seen you 10 years ago, once in my life. Young Magnificent from 107 Hoover came through Baby Crazy O from Harlem, who is my daughter's personal security. That's how I know him. He didn't work for Ray J, Detail. He didn't do security for everybody, not Gumby. So he sat up here and said, I signed Young Magnificent because I was getting into it with Big U. If that's the case, I signed Blueface in 2018. schoolyard and 6-0 is enemies come on that's real shit okay bro listen when I'm saying bro this is real talk so when you come up here and speak your like bro don't like listen Adam I seen that and it was like you saw him on this podcast and you started bitching right away like what you're just talking about he's no good he's gonna extort you he's bad for the building You basically started becoming exactly what you complain about with somebody like 4Xtra.

24:42Remember how offended you were that 4Xtra had the power to make me not do a FaceTime interview with Braze? I mean, I feel like it's the same exact thing. You see somebody doing the podcast that you feel is beneath you, and you're like, oh, I don't want him on. Even though this whole podcast is based on the idea of trying out a lot of people on camera in real time. Let me ask you a question. And then also having a relatively low level that we expect people to be at when we'll try them out. Oh, so you want to try our dummies? I just don't hold... You said low level. Somebody doesn't have to be a huge rapper or a huge comedian or a huge YouTuber to get a spot on this podcast.

25:15We try people out who realistically quite often are just regular people. Now, 607 on, can't nobody fight that. What the fuck is Gumby doing to say he get a shot at the table? Man, Gumby not no spokesman. But I just interviewed him. It's not like I put him on one of the podcasts consistently. That's a different thing. But still, he getting up here, it's like he fake pressing niggas. You feel me? But he had Polk with him. He had a whole gang, a bunch of hoovers with him. Polk the homie. That's cool. That's what I'm saying. He's a reputable guy. But still, I mean, you know, some shit people just don't involve themselves in for real.

25:48You feel me? Like, just because he was with him and he came up here and he sat on the side of him, that don't necessarily mean that. You feel me? He's involving himself in what Gumby is talking about. You know what I mean? Like, Gumby is beneath everybody at this table. Polk rap, right? The Polk Larry. Poke raps. Yeah, Poke is fire. He's probably the biggest rapper from over there. Trey Wade and shit, too. What was the main reason that made you decide to do the Gumby interview? He got pressed? Yeah, he talked shit about me on the Real Tune interview, and I was just like, man, A, I want to argue with this guy, and B, he's funny as fuck.

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26:20I just want to talk to him, period. My question is this. So he was just like a punching bag. No. I punch him back. I just wanted to talk to him You guys are all of a sudden acting like the standard For me to have somebody on Nojumbo Remember when I had Crip Mac on A random dude who I thought was funny That had like 200 followers Crip Mac everybody Everybody was watching Gumby and Crip Mac I started it though Nobody did anything with him before me Gumby is funny he looks funny You feel me like That nigga look like a Gumby Exactly he's embarrassing You feel me like for real He took it upon himself to come up here for real.

27:03Hey, Gumby, you shouldn't have lied on me, bro. You know damn well you ain't introduced me to no young magnificent. You're really taking that one personally. Yeah, because he said it like he said WAC only came to sign him because he had an issue with Big U. You get what I'm saying? Like it's a power rule saying, okay, I'm getting into a 160, right? And let me go to the Hoovers. No, nigga, that ain't. First of all, me and 600 had already been running our play in Star Wolf, running our play on the grid program for a couple years by then. It was already in effect. We didn't need 600 from 6-0. What I want to do.

27:47No, we was exposing. Exposing. That's a real play. Paperwork. Documentation. We can show you that. A bullshit playing is when somebody Make an accusation and they capping About it check this out and that's Exactly what Gumby came up here and did He capped y 'all out on my mama Nigga you're not nobody nigga Period bro all that shit you sat at this table With told niggas bro you're not the boogie man Nigga I'm the dead homies if you was the boogie man You would've went and got your man Before he was cuffed up that's what you would've Did nigga dead homies nigga that was pussy Shit you did nigga period and let's Address the smut on your name nigga Let's address that.

28:27You said, nigga, you are status quo for survival, right? Or status quo for survival. Nigga, man, bro. But he did spend some money on the homie. He got the homie an attorney. Yeah, the snitch, nigga. You talking about the snitch, nigga? I don't know if he a snitch, but I know he's been the one of his attorneys. Man, the nigga who brought First 48 to the set. The snitch, nigga. That's who y 'all talking about. He paid for an attorney for one of his homies. Man, he paid for an attorney for the snitch, nigga, bro. Lamont told. Lamont told. Maybe Gumby didn't know that. Everybody know that. It's a video.

29:02He told before he got him attorney or after. He was telling from the get-go. From the time they picked him up. He was a mover. He over there now. He looked out for it. He over there now. Still on the block. That's crazy. Right now. That's the streets. That's right now. You know, we snitch streets. But you're a nigga that ain't got no smut on your name, though. How? How, bro? If you say the Mexican Mafia, the white boys, the Bloods, the Crips, if everybody can speak on your name, nigga, do they know that you pay for a snitch nigga to get out of jail? Do they know that? That's the, like, nigga, come on, bro.

29:42I would tell people now, I interview snitches. I don't have a problem interviewing them. You know, I think it was a... I mean, it is what it is. I interview him, but I ain't going to pay. It is what it is. But when you come up here on the platform where the world can see, don't start lying and saying that, nigga, can't nobody bring up no smut on you. You feel me? You was begging the homegirl to pipe you down, bro. Who? The homegirl. Now, see, now, this is what Adam said. Wait, what? He got a piece of it. This is real. This is real. Yeah. This is real. Man, I look that nigga in his face, bro. Period.

30:16He know what the end result going to be when me and him. Did she say that? But did she say it? Because these ladies be lying sometimes. That's what they always say. That's what it was in the book. He was tricking on her. He was tricking on her. These ladies be saying they be lying. Do she like that she told you that? She told you that? You guys don't have mics for the record. Listen, bro. She told somebody who a reliable source to me, period. You feel me? And everything checks out. Now was this Gumby's girl at one time? Gumby was tricking on her And then he stopped tricking on her? He went bro Why would you believe a random girl?

30:53Why would you believe Gumby? Where's the black and white? Do she need black and white? We gotta see the video Hey, no, for real We on the streets, for real, Adam You gotta be realistic Is it black and white for that? I've seen a lot of girls lie about the homies I feel like you don't got some sus tech Gumby came up here Everything Gumby said was a lie. He did say some truth, though. He definitely lied on me. He did say some truth, though. He said he a nigga in the prisons, bro. This is my shit. The streets, this is my shit, nigga. Test it. Test it, bro. He want to go to jail. He want to get niggas indicted.

31:34He coming up here, he talking all this bunk shit. He want to get niggas indicted, bro. But what did he say that was going to get anyone indicted? Everything he talking about. Everything he talking about. He did say some wild shit. He said some wild ass shit. He did. Like, come on, bro. Like, listen, for one, I ain't going to say no names, but he rest in peace. And he come from the east side. When you go to talk at that, I got a nonprofit and I need you to donate to it. Man, that's federal, bro. That is so old school. That's federal, period. How they tie that. That's the oldest school in the book.

32:04And it's an OG nigga that really kicked that off. You pulled that shit for years. You feel me? He pulled it for years. He ain't the one that kicked it off. It's another old school dude, rest in peace. That was his, that's what he did. So when he starts saying that, I'm looking at this dude. And then the whole time he hollering, Hoover, Hoover, Hoover. So now what you're doing, because let's keep it real. Partially of what people say is true, right? Are the feds in the building? No. Are the feds watching the content of No Jumper? Absolutely. For sure. They're watching everybody. But to be fair, I don't think they're watching like the consequence interview.

32:40The who? Probably not. You know, I feel like they're watching stuff that is about people that they already have existing investigations into. Sure. They're watching stuff. You got a dude coming up here. They watching all that shit. To a white dude. Anything that says gang. They taking notes, bro. To a white dude. They taking notes. Period. And every other world is a set of gang and what you need to do. And then he comes with to dedicate, donate to my nonprofit. Now, let me tell you the crazy part about it. I'm putting the bank money right now. He could not provide you that nonprofit because he probably don't got one.

33:16And he probably looking for somebody to give him the information. But that's somebody probably saying it's coming from who? Oh, no, we ain't doing that. So you think it was a mistake that I gave him 50 can cash? I mean, that's what you did. I had nothing to do with that. You gave that nigga 50 can cash? Yeah. You a fool. I'm just kidding. He's going to go spend that. He's going to go spend that. See, now you see why I'm going to fuck with you. See, he don't want that shit to get out again. he's going to go spin out of the way. Now he's doing Y4 don't want to match with him. And now, look, listen, I'm going to be real with you, Adam.

33:48Before 4X was told you what his issue was, I told you. I think he feels some kind of way, because Munchie being King Pills up here, talking about his situation. Wish the world were going to talk about it. But he felt like you brought it together. Then to add insult to injury, you bring a hoover up here. Who's talking about him? it's not like I instigated him talking about it that's just what he wanted to talk about it don't matter you didn't stop it either I'm telling you how he looks at it not only just him who's ever around him talking to him he called in he told Adam he said the little shit with 607 Unc when he was on his way to Camp Capone or whatever he said that he thought it was a play you feel me that niggas was gonna lame up whatever he was talking about like you feel me King Peele with 15 niggas bro you're the boogeyman bro Like, what?

34:41He had his team with him, didn't he? I mean, he had to call him. That was what Gumby said is he doesn't like you speaking on 4XR because 4XR is a real op. Man, I'm a real op. And you shouldn't be the one stirring the pot. I'm a real op. Nigga, I'm a real op. Okay, so why do you know? I'm really the boogeyman. That's on my mama. Do you know 4XRs? Yeah, I know 4XRs. I was in a county jail with 4XRs. Listen, let me tell y 'all something. So if y 'all really want to know the story about 4XRs, right? Yeah, I know him. And this is how I know him. Was he who he say he was? I can't say that. But what I can say is he called me out for a favor.

35:22Okay, well. My name ring. I ain't gonna lie. He called me out for a favor. So he knew you was one of the ones. And he called you out. He came in on the fish line. I didn't know who the nigga was. He said he tripping on everybody off the bat. I didn't know who the nigga was. He come in. He come in. We bang on each other. He say who he is. I say who I am. He go to his cell. Boom. I'm sitting on a tear. I'm talking to the homies about a situation that happened. I think it was on the 2000 floor. 22, I mean 24, 27. No, no. When he told you where he was from and you told him you was from Hoover, he told you we gotta get out.

36:04We gotta get down. No. It was not. No, it was never that. I was in the middle of telling a story when he hit the tier. You feel me? So he come, he bang. Boom, I bang. He go to his cell. I'm like, we going to holler. He go to his cell. Bam. I finished telling my story. Me and the homies get into it with Tiny Inhead from Rolling 60 Crypt. You feel me? He one of they gods over there. He like 6 '7", 2 '8". Like 2. He got outrageous. You feel me? I had just moved in the cell with the homies. he get up like he come down the tier and he's asking for my homie that's standing on the bars. You feel me? But he don't know which one he's looking for.

36:43You feel me? So he's like, man, where Grove Mac at? Little Grove Mac like nigga, I am Grove Mac. You feel me? He like, nigga, not you, nigga. The other nigga, the homie, he's a short nigga. He's sized up. He got power in him though. You feel me? Like a little turbo machine on the inside of him, bro. So when you turn him on, he go. You feel me? So Tiny Inhead turned him on. You feel me? He'd go up and start to say, like, nigga, what? I don't hope we're going to program. He'd like, man, you too small. He'd say some outrageous-ass shit, like unbelievable shit, that had me fucked up. Said, man, I'll rip your neck off, rip your body apart.

37:22Crazy stuff, right? I'm like, to me, being me, you feel me? I'm like, man, all my homies know this. You feel me? All y 'all know this, period. I'm like, nigga, I'm ready to go up, period. I'm not no short nigga I'm 6 feet so to me you 6 '7 6 '5 whatever alright that's cool we gonna get that you feel me so I'm like alright nigga man you gonna program bro like nigga you ain't that much bigger than me he like where you from I'm like nigga I'm from Westside Hoover mind you I just pulled up so all y 'all in there from Hoover except for one nigga I ain't even gonna mention that nigga's name he just he's a he but there's three hovers in there you feel me and we all like TTG We on that.

38:04Like, we going on whatever. So, I just pulled up. So, he's like, damn, you from moving to home? I'm like, yeah. He's like, all right, big. I'm like, we're going to get down. He's like, all right, I'll be back. He leaves. He never comes back on the tier. Mace from Harlem 30 Crip. Crip was a porter with Tiny in here. You ducking the four extras. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. It's a crazy buildup. I'm a crazy buildup. I'm not ducking nothing. Come on, man. No, he on the bars. Man, that look. Off the back. Nah, he didn't have no He's searching for the cell He's searching But nigga on my mama He's theatrical though That's just he'll That's not an act I'm telling a story about when we was You know, the N-Head shit So, you know, long story short I go to court the next morning I come back N-Head and Mason In a day room, I'm in a laundry room You feel me?

38:58I like peep my head out Like nigga, what up? We finna program homie come in there boom mace come in there tiny in head come in there he have this another outrageous sad story like I'm a UFC fighter bro nigga there's no telling if I hit you and you fall and hit your head and die or you're saying 4X just said that no his homie said that you feel me so my level drops so they move me when they move me I land in a module where 4X eventually ended up coming in you feel me? So I'm telling my story on a tier to the homie. You feel me? He no longer here. You feel me? Long live Red Bank. But I'm telling my story to him.

39:38It's a dude named Keon. It's named Kilmo. He's from 87. He was there. There's a few other people on a tier. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. Can you hear that? It's the calm, sugar, white, sandy beaches of St.

40:22Pete Clearwater. And if you listen closely, you'll hear the mmms coming from the epic restaurants, the cheers from sun-soaked music festivals, and the beat of our legendary nightlife scene. Before you hit play on your next song, text the group chat. It's time to plan a trip to St. Pete Clearwater. Learn more at visitspc.com. My nigga Peanut from Juan Trey Fogg. It's a few niggas on the tier. But 4X was there. No, he's not here again. So I'm telling the story. As soon as I get there, you feel me, I get acquainted with the niggas who are on my side of the module. So I'm like, yeah, man, whoa. They're like, yeah.

41:07So I'm telling the story and walks the fish line. So, you know, I'm in sale like four at the time. So, you know, I see niggas. I'm banging on everything. Only people I'm not banging on is white boys and Mexicans. You feel me? They're not my people. We appreciate it. you know thank you very much it's regular that a nigga I'm a bang on everything black that I see you feel me period if you got the potential to harm me and my homies from the gate I'm on you you feel me period so it's like that it's like that you feel me survival for real so Martin Luther King I have a dream he hit my tear and you know we do that little exchange or whatever I'm like alright we gonna holla he go to his cell boom I'm telling I'm finished telling the story he like he interrupt me though like hey hey hey Hoover I'm like what's happening he like hey what's selling you in I'm like nigga I'm gonna sell a foe or whatever he sent me a kite he like hey nigga I need that fool like nigga foe de cript a fight letter not a love letter a little fight letter but I respected it though so he wrote you that I need that foe de cript I let my sellies read the kite that's like a poke on Facebook.

42:21I'm like, man, I let myself reach the kite. I'm like, man, look, check this out. But in the kite, he was real descriptive on what it was. Like, nigga, we gonna program, bro. Like, you talking about my homie, nigga, 40 crib. Nigga, that's my homie. You feel me? On glove. I'm like, alright, bet, nigga, we gonna program. You feel me? That was my response to it. Like, alright, bet, we gonna program. Tomorrow, showers, nigga, you feel me? We gonna... It's locked in. What year is this? It's in 2012. Oh, wow. Wow, so you're fighting a young, nubile Forester. Exactly. I'm in my prime. He in his prime.

42:54You feel me? It's that. Would you say he looked more like physically imposing back then? Because the old models of him, he's got like a tiny waist, super strong. Yeah. I mean, you got to think about it. It's the county jail, so nigga got blues on. You can't really. Right. You know, it's night. He came in probably like around 1 o 'clock in the morning. You know that late morning fish line. He came in during that train. You feel me? So I'm like, we be up real niggas. When you hear them gates open up and them doors open up, you popping up, you putting your shoes on, especially if it's only two, three niggas in your cell.

43:28If you want to somebody coming in there. Exactly. It's program. But it don't matter what time it is. You're going to get cracking, bro. If you don't, nigga, you ain't nothing. You feel me? Period. So I'm knowing what time it is, but I'm telling my story. I'm not going to stop telling my story because this nigga four extras from 40 crypt just landed in a module. you feel me period i heard his name but i ain't never seen him in action gotcha you know what i mean so when he sent me the kite i'll tell you what i said and then i showed my cellies the kite like look you feel me and my cellies you know they like nigga on bumping nigga are and my other celly he was from lane's yeah tdl's that kid he like nigga on lane's blood like nigga you the homie brother nigga that's our cell like nigga fuck that nigga we'll get bracken on blood i'm I'm like, nah, nigga, I'm from Hovind.

44:18Nigga, like, you know, I'm going to eat this up. You feel me? So I holler at him. I'm like, hey, nigga, early morning showers, bro. You feel me? I'm going to come down there. We're going to program, whatever. Nigga, don't go to showers. Was off the back here yet. No. He wasn't off the back yet. Probably in his head. Gotcha. Probably in his head. You feel me? He probably was building up, like, strengthening his character. Yeah, gotcha. You feel me? So, nigga, the showers, I mean, the next morning came, lights come on. Boom. Showers delayed. So we know what that means. You feel me? Change. We not getting showers.

44:51They from the wrong wayside. And if we do get showers, it's going to get pushed back. But, hey, hey, Asher, what's happening? Hey, nigga, if they call you for the wayside line, bro, you feel me? Stay back. Refuse that. Bet. 40 credit. All right. Boom. You feel me? They call the wayside line, nigga. His name is my homie's last name, nigga. You know what I mean? He knew the name. Man, I don't. at that point. So they called the wayside line. He went on the wayside line. He came out with a bed row. You feel me? And I'm at the gate like, like, what's happening? He's like, that's going to be the discrepancy right there.

45:26He's going to say. He went to wayside, bro. I swear to God. He probably told you he's going to just get out with your homies up here. That's what he did say. That's exactly what he said. He's going to get super pissed in this story. No, what else? This has been told before, right? I feel like I heard about it. I don't know. I told this story. But the discrepancy is if he told him to fall back off the wayside line. Because I said that. But I can hear 4X saying it's a few more cats I'm trying to catch up with up there anyway. I'll get back to you. His words was, I'm finna go to the wayside. There's more of your homies up there.

46:05You feel me? I'm finna go land in the dorm room. Run that down. I'm finna go squabble your homies up there. So I'm like, alright. Whatever. I can't do nothing. So did you get word that he was up there squabbling? No. It was never a follow-up. I never followed up with him. You never saw him again after that? That was 13 years. Now this is my thing, right? So that dude, Belafonte dude, that wore the lipstick. This dude, Steph and Belafonte. Steph, don't wear lipstick? Where do you pull that out of? Hey, man. Hold on, bro. Hold on, hold on. Let me say this. Hold on. I got a bombshell for y 'all. I just called King Pell out for a fade.

46:48Yeah, that was impressive. I just called King Pell out for a fade. What he's saying? He turned it down. Oh. So, are you? Did he call you a smoker? Nah, nigga. He told me. I said, look, bro. I said, nigga. I'm going to tell you exactly what I told him. I said, look. What the fuck you mean where I get it from? Nigga, this whack 100. I come from the 100 side of the trenches. If I say something, that's what that is. We going to give back. That's a fact. Yeah, you know, please. That's a fact. Stop questioning. That's your problem because y 'all don't know what's going on. Shout out to Jeremy Green.

47:20Come on. Jeremy Green the one put us up on that. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Another one. Yeah, you see what's happening. Why is this on? Genius. Former Spice Girl, Melanie Brown. Okay. Hold on to her husband. Music producer, Stefan Belafonte, who flaunted her bright red lips after leaving their London hotel. They were celebrating an early Halloween party. That's what he said. nigga. That's what he told me. Hold on. I don't know if that's true or not. Is she dressed in a Halloween suit? I mean, it was Halloween. So it's cool to put lipstick on for Halloween. If we've never seen him doing it in another situation, then what are we supposed to assume?

47:57That doesn't mean it differently. Actually, no, I can't say that. Hold on. That's a form of cross-dressing, period. You put lipstick on. Now watch this. I ain't got no lipstick for you. Steph you my boy but you put that lipstick on bro I don't know take that fade bro you know what he told us prior to that you tricked me my daughter asked me to do it no bro bro I'm just saying that's what that is yeah that's like some demonic stuff so what I'm saying is but I say that to say this right he's the one this square dude that orchestrated and called Hulk to get on the song with King Peele. The slide remix.

48:46Yeah. The slide remix. So this dude, Stephen Belafonte, he's playing games. He's the one called Hulk. I got the song. Wait, wait, wait. I got the song. He's the one orchestrated it. I thought he was, okay. I was being led to believe that Stephen Belafonte was against this and he thought that King Peele made a bad move. Steph told you that? No. It was a play. It was his idea? It was his idea. That's a play. It was his idea. He called the homie Alshon. He called Alshon. Alshon said, I need a Hoover that can get on this thing with King Peele and Wookey Woo that can rap. Alshon said the homie Hulk can rap and got him on there and then said, let's get him down there to take him to the neighborhood so it can look like something.

49:29This square dude is running all these plays, got all these dudes ready to go at each other, destroy each other, three, four different prominent neighborhoods while he wearing motherfucking lipstick, talking about it's a Halloween party. Is that how you met Peele? Is through Steffan? I didn't know Peele, right? My homies love me to death. My homies love me to death. If I come outside on Halloween with some lipstick, they getting off on me. Steffan is the reason why I spent so much time around King Peele. Nigga, you ain't even welcome here no more. I probably wouldn't have ended up doing the video in the Bronx with King Peele and shit if it wasn't for Steffan, so that's interesting.

50:05That's what I'm trying to tell you. the whole time. They're running plays on the 22-string? But yeah, he's in the background and he got a Hoover. He got a treetop power rule. He got a 4-5-6 and a 40 over here going to crash out and he orchestrating everything. Wow. He's going to be so mad at me when he sees this. That's a real boogeyman. Because my phone rung and it was, you know. Then he let Gumby turn around, because Gumby playing puppeteer with him, and let Gumby sing a tan and everything, and just, hey, stop talking to Hawk, because Gumby scared of me. Period. You scared of me. Nigga, if you wasn't, why would you sit here and throw a wrench in the game?

50:47Bro, you can squabble me, bro. I will beat your ass. Like, for real. Nigga, I might start a fire. You so skinny. Nigga, for real, bro. Like, your sticks and bones. Nigga, I... Wait, but you guys were cool before that, though? You and Gumby ain't have a... Man, listen. Yeah, that was like two months ago. Yeah. Listen, bro. I don't know that was cool because Gumby fake as fuck. I just did 10 years, bro. When I came home, I've been home three years. Three years, okay, gotcha. I just did 10 years, bro. 12 to 22. So when you went through this with four extras, that whatever was going to be, that until 22?

51:20Nah, because I had got locked up in the beginning of 2013. Okay. Like literally like January 2013. you feel me like the first couple days or something like that did you guys know each other from childhood though I caught my case in 2012 how old are you Gumby 50 I'm 35 I knew Gumby before I went to jail yes okay Gumby ain't never been nobody like man look let me tell you Gumby is the dude that pray on people he feel he can oppress like if he feel he can scare you and intimidate you with his crooked mouth and his ugly ass looks then he got you you feel me that's literally what he is we got people do that with voices yeah he worked on that character for a long time you feel me that crooked mouth shit he really liked old meth or something like that's real hey that was a great decision you made not smoking that that Hoover Blunt whatever that I don't even know Hoover Blunt that's what he called it that was crazy you can't say smoke enough huh he like long things in his mouth that's crazy whoa what are you talking about I mean when it comes to smoking on a huge blunt.

52:30We need Steph and Peele up here. So you're saying that Steph got the lipstick, Peele got the fingernail. Steph got the lipstick, Peele got the fingernail. We might as well open up a Sephora.

52:44I'm sorry, Steph. I thought we got my bad, my bad. Hey, what? It was crazy as a motherfucker, right? Because when I found out, when I found out, I was mad. I can tell y 'all was mad as a motherfucker. I said, man, what the fuck? I said, hey, what if you know, Lush, if I tell you, if I say some shit, that sound crazy. And then at the same time, there's a good chance I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He might have a trick up his sleeve. A white boy like me always got a brick up his sleeve. Sorry. I just did a you thing. I saw this Troy Ave slander going on, bro. What do you mean slander? Speaking of plays.

53:20Yo, that was a play. Speaking of plays. You want to bet? Well, that's what TMZ's saying. That's when the TMD dictates something. That's when. And TMZ said, who told him? No police reports about this. No news articles about it. Okay, so that means somebody didn't get caught. Do you think the robbers are going to go make a police report? You think the victims that was trying to get robbed. Let me ask you something. I was under the impression that the fool died. Are the robbers going to make a police report if they got away? Or are the victims who shot back or did whatever they did going to make a police report?

53:54It depends on if the suspect gets shot. There we go. Regardless of police. But if he get away, if he gets away. No, he's not calling the boys. He got away. Like, why are you going to do that? Why would you do that? The police might still choose to investigate it if there's like a big. But you know they're going to investigate it. Period. But it does depend on the level of the crime, though. Yeah, no, for sure. There is no victim and the dude clearly got away. But it did look sus, off-read. And the fact that there's nothing to substantiate the video other than its existence. What do you mean? There's nothing other than...

54:29So why did the video come out? You said that you talked to his lawyer. Why did the video come out? That's all we have to go on. No, no, he talked to my lawyer. Yeah. That's why I want to bet. Sources who have been in direct content with the bogus bad boys have confirmed the whole scene was fake. No one actually attempted to rob Jeff and were told Troy did not actually fire any live rounds. This lines up with what law enforcement told us, too. Cops in San Diego County told us they had no reports of a shooting or attempted robbery involving Troy or Jeff. So somebody baked this shit up? more likely than not yeah wow fake news also to me the fact that you haven't heard anything from Troy Ave since this like if it was real and everybody was saying it was fake don't you think Troy Ave would like there's got to be some like obvious you know way to prove it right 500 keep it to yourself listen man when I tell y 'all something it's factual listen Listen, first of all, he ain't told me no law since I've been dying.

55:28I'm not finna. He ain't told me no law since he's pulling up with receipts. You didn't really bring anything, though. That's just a random text, though. That's my attorney. And if he's not supposed to be having a gun or shooting a gun at people, why would they post the video and tell them themselves? Okay, so. Why not? Let me ask you a question. I'm on cloud. No, no. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. They chasing cloud right now. Let me ask you a question. I got a real question I want to ask you. I mean, it's 2025. People doing shit for views. I'm really socking on niggas. I'm doing that.

56:04I don't want the camera in front of me when I'm doing that. If you get it on footage and I get it and I'm just beating somebody ass, I'm going to post it. If a female told you right, I'm going to release something on you and she's threatening you with it. And you know she's serious. What do we usually do? Care. We just release it on ourselves, right? Or a pair. Right. It's better to get in front of it, for sure. I thought you were there. It's more extreme. What I'm telling you is this is a great situation. Why? Because everybody went home alive that night. Ain't no robber finna go to the police station and say, I tried to rob these fools and they shot at me.

56:45And these fools ain't finna go to the police station and say, a fool tried to rob us and we shot at him and wasn't supposed to. He's not gonna go to the police station, but he'll probably go to the hospital. Bro, I don't know. I don't know about that, bro. I done been in some strange situations, man. Because these niggas be shooting with New Jack City from the side. You didn't see me, bro. I got to disagree with you, bro. Not even disagree with you. I just want to put my input in on it. I done been in some weird situations, bro, where I done did some shit to some people who didn't tell to no good.

57:14They had bullshit going on. And they still caught the boys on me. And I still went to jail for it. Still was charged for it. All that shit. You feel me? So, you got people doing dirt that will call the police on you. You know what I mean? Period. And they'll make up what you took from him. Like, oh, he took this. They snitching on the hops in 2025. Let's say if you got somebody that's selling weight and you robbed them, boom, they not in the streets like that. They selling weight, but they ain't upping no iron. They not pressing niggas. They not really putting their feet on these niggas for real.

57:46Right? So, but they moving weight and they got niggas scared because they told them poles and doing all that. They doing this in 2025. They've been doing it. You feel me? So you got them same niggas that if you strip them, they will call the police and get a police show description and tell the police, you robbed them for something else. No one, you got bullshit in your car, right? No, you got weight in your car, boys, get on. You, you got the weight in your car and now they booking you for the weight. You feel me? They booking you for the false robbery. They got all that. I mean, if you don't have a, if you don't have a moral qualm with doing that, it basically turns you into a, criminal who also has the reinforcement of the local police department or whatever on your behalf.

58:28It's really a pretty smart technique as long as you don't feel conflicted. I mean, if you don't feel conflicted about it, it's brilliant, right? No, but the way you go about it, I mean, I don't want the police on my team, period. I don't want to do nothing. I don't want to do nothing that get back to them. But if the enemies are doing it, don't it put you at a disadvantage if you're not doing it? Hey, bro, see all this talk right here? This would scare me by hustling in the streets. It's too many what ifs. We rationalize it. Yeah, certain things. But you're not going to change that. It don't scare me, Lush, because you know what you're around.

59:02You feel me? You got to know what you're around. And you got to feel comfortable with how you move around what you're around. You feel me? Like if you feel conflicted about what's around you, then you need to move. You need to get on. but you can't run from nothing like that, bro, because it's everywhere. You feel me? It's like once one person starts telling, everybody starts telling. But that's the thing. How many people you heard about killers? How many people you heard about that's doing life, you feel me, for murders, but they done told? Oh, man. You know what I mean? Like, nigga, you caught red-handed.

59:36I saw one dude, he got 105 years, but he's still told. I don't know. Come on. Like, what the fuck? Let me ask you a question, though. Here. So have you and 4X just began to Have you had a conversation With him about Well we know why he mad but is he like Like this We spoke Friday Friday we spoke for like 3 minutes That Monday I tried to call him. He was trying to mollywop you. I laughed at that. Not specifically, but when I was listening to his tone on the phone, I was like, because I'm just not used to like the people that I have on my podcast. He told me to meet him at the studio. I'm not used to like anybody trying to be on some scary shit or some tough shit with me.

1:00:19Like, I just don't, I don't normally have to deal with that. But so I'm just and a new bed row. Come on to the laundry room. Hey, man, I got it for you. You don't need to go to the 6 ,000 floor. Hey, yo, when you said that. What? When you said, I swear to God. That's a back note? Because you were talking. You were like, yeah, I talked to four extras. You were into your white boy shit, right? Talking to four extras. He was like, yeah, just come up to the studio. We're going to talk about it. Come up here right now. I'm telling myself, he better beat your ass. You better be the one. He whooped your ass with nothing.

1:00:51Adam, he didn't even warn you, huh? Did he tell you that 4X was going to beat your ass? Did he even tell you that? No, this is what I'm talking about. No, this is what I'm talking about. He's telling Adam, you have my ops up there, and you're asking them, you're asking my ops because how you feel about the firecracker in my head. But listen, Adam, come to the studio right now. Come up here right now. I'm telling myself, Adam don't even realize what's going on. You about to be the demonstration of the left hand. See, but that left hand might not be as strong as that. I don't know what it was. He was going to try it out on your ass.

1:01:24You grab that nigga's hand, he going to fall. You grab his finger hand, he going to fall to the ground. I don't know what flow action was written. He was probably going to talk to me in a strongly worded way. You see what I think he was going to do? He had some duct tape. He was going to sit you down. Put me in the trunk? No, he had something better for your ass. He was going to sit you down. He was going to make you open up that hand. He was going to make you offer you couldn't refuse. put on that king pill nail polish I made it in that hand and duct tape your goddamn hand with the stem out and they was gonna light it and then y 'all could pod together explode my hand boom you're a piece of shit bro how you trying to throw the lighter did he say you trying to throw the firecracker through the lighter who said hey I heard that I heard that hey look I've done that before I don't want to be seen as making light of our friend losing his hand.

1:02:20He's not helping at all. No, we're not making a lot. I'm talking about what he was going to do to your hand. The same thing happens when you go to the trash can, right, and you got trash in your hand. You got money in your hand or things. You know how you throw stuff in the trash? Just throw the money. And you go back to the trash. But usually you're more of a hyper-aware state when you're holding fireworks. Everybody tells the truth. We've all done some dumb shit with the fireworks. I didn't have a firecracker trying to drop it into the glass. go off. We've all done some dumb shit. I'm not messing with nothing crazier than a sparkler.

1:02:57For the rest of my life, I'm not going above sparkler. Did you ask him, I'm not doing nothing like that. Why did he light it in the car? I didn't ask him either. Because he wanted to do an MAD drive-by. That was the whole purpose of that. Everybody's assuming that he was in the car. We don't actually know that. the car. Listen, all right. If you're not in the car, this is how you know he was in the car because his homeboy injury, whatever he suffered, it wouldn't have been that severe outside of the car. No. And then look where the blood splatter is at. All of the blood splatter is on him. You feel me?

1:03:35It would have been all over the place. You feel me? So that lets you know that the space that he was in was a closed place. I'll tell you this. I've been doing my research on like what they can do. They got some things. I don't know how severe the damage is. It looks like it's two. Some people saying it's three. Man, I got it. So he got a couple figures left, man. If these two are gone, he got action still. He got things that you can like slip on your hand. Opposable thumb is like the most important thing, really. No, but his thumb is there. Yeah, so then that's like the most important. Yeah, it looks like he did.

1:04:10One, two, three, four. He got this thumb. You can tell on the picture that he blew this off. And then with 4X being the way he is, he ain't finna just lay that. He's for sure doing the same exact shit right now. You gotta slow down, period. It's a Warner song. Okay, but how do you think that the quest to get paid 50 grand for an interview is going? No, that's not gonna happen. I mean, we understand. See, that comes from the homies talking. That's why the story's not out there. This is what they're saying. Bro, you can start your own thing, and then we can do it. They're looking for a position for themselves.

1:04:48They wasn't being real homies to him because his build and his growth is here, and he's not all the way rooted, Chase. The reason why 4X was going so tough because he got out. He was doing it for a month. He went to jail. Okay, he's calling. All right, now we're going to hear about the fades when he got out. He got out for 10 days. We're waiting to hear about the fades. He go back to jail. We never really got to see what him being free for a couple months in a row would be like. Two months he goes to jail, he gets back out, people calling him out, he didn't take a few of the faves for whatever reason, and then now this happens.

1:05:22So now it ain't like he had a run. How long does that happen? Even with C-Mac, even with C-Mac, right? You knew, okay, people's kind of getting over, you know, your words and your antics. So now you moved him into, you did some other little like show with him, right? We try to, you know. You kept moving him around to different things because when you're not a guy that's versatile enough to just talk about everything and all kinds of things and outside, people, it works and it lasts for so long. You got a kid. His was, he was in and out of jail a month, two months back, back. So it never caught up with him when people were like, all right, I'm over it.

1:06:01We're waiting to see the fight that now we'll never see. But here's the question is, do you think that 4Xtra has already realized that the best situation for him financially is no jumper and that he just hasn't reached out because on a pride level, he doesn't feel right about going back? I hope he realized that how he handled it and what he did is going to change things. Because I'm going to be real. What I was saying too much, like, bro, this is why you can't overdo with people when you're showing genuine love. What you was doing for him, nobody else is doing for nobody, bro. and him going in and out of jail, you still holding his seat, right, was a gesture of respect and comradeship, right?

1:06:56Him not talking to you, you had nothing to do with his situation. Everybody's talking about it. The shit was on the news in New York. Everybody's talking about it because he comes from this platform, right? So I don't think he's understanding, hey, bro, this is what's feeding you and giving you opportunity. opportunity you need adam and no jumper even more than anything to recreate and reinvent yourself i'm not gonna lie when i told whack how much i was paying for extra yeah i tripped i'm like damn he was like what he's like that's that's too much that's a sign of ungrateful i was like bro i'm like you did what but i told you i said when you do shit like that bro when you do shit like that it'll come back and bite you because he was giving him a bag i'm like you did what but i don't necessarily.

1:07:44But I did too much trip when I thought about it. He fresh out. I gave the little niggas some money. Right? He fresh out. He doing his thing. And you know that's why when he would ask me certain things I would scratch my head. But you want to. The other part that was weird about it is that when I decided like yo let's go exclusive. Let's do content. You're a part of the team. We're going to pay you X amount of dollars. I said I'll give you this amount for the next three months. He took that and started going around telling people how much he was getting paid per year. Where in that moment, and I knew that because you were like, hey, guess what I heard?

1:08:22I heard exactly how much first you're getting paid. What I realized in that moment was, oh, the moment where I have to tell him that that amount is now lower is probably not going to be something that goes smoothly because he's over here just assuming that that's the number going forward. It's often not like that. I just thought you would. I said, shit, if that's what you're doing, I said, bro. But see, that's where you was going to run into a problem at. I'm talking business with you. You can't, you start a dude off here and he's showing up and then you tell him, all right, this what it is. And it's, let's say, half or a little under that because that's the reality of it, right?

1:09:03When the business, what I'm making, what I'm paying you, what it call. He don't see what I see. He doesn't see, bro. He don't see the camera. He don't see that, right? Because somebody like a problem. See, that's how Vlad insulates himself from that is that every single person that he has a relationship with, whether it's a it's a Boosie or it's a Michael J. White or whatever. It's like, yo, I'm going to give you this amount for an interview, whatever else you want to do. You want to go to 500 other interviews? Go ahead. I'm paying you for this interview. That's it. And then if we want to do another interview, then we can discuss.

1:09:32And so a lot of the people that he has on the platform might get 10 grand to start. and then as time goes by, maybe that number is two grand. Didn't Boosie say like 50 or 100? Boosie a liar. Boosie exaggerates the fuck out of the way. It was probably fucked the game up for him. How you start so high and drop it so low? But that's what I told him he messed up at before. No, but that's how it goes. Because think about it. If you come on the show and you're talking about, well, I beat five bodies and I grew up in this neighborhood. I had shootouts. I did this. All these crazy stories. And then you do six interviews.

1:10:05And by the time you get to the sixth interview, it's like, so Kendrick and Drake, huh? And it's like, now this one person I killed. I mean, some people can't get abused consistently like that. You know, he thought it was hate. And I said, no, listen, bro. You, I understand the mentality. I got homies like him. Right. Right. I understand his mentality. It took you a while to understand his mentality. You can't tell nobody. Whoop. And then after 90 days, you're looking at the numbers. You say, who? He's like, nigga, what? You got me fucked up. Look, let me show you the numbers. I don't want to see no numbers.

1:10:43Now, if you had started him here and said, hey, based upon this, and you do this, a little more shows or whatever, we can get you here, then he climbing up. But you can't start him up and think you're going to bump him down and ain't nothing different happening. But no one said, did Fo Extra ever actually say, I'm not fucking with no jumpers anymore? No. So what was the conversation? I think, what did he say to you then? Nothing. Basically like. Bring your ass up to the studio so we can whoop your ass. So did you come to the studio? Hell no, he didn't. It was a Friday night. It was a Friday night.

1:11:18I'm going home to hang out with my kids. I ain't going to go to the goddamn studio. One thing about street dudes. I'm not going to see DJ Flip make the money flip. I'm sorry, DJ Flip. He's like, yeah, Lush will be there in 15 minutes. It's always the time with street dudes where our anger gets the best of it and we're thinking irrational. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? But that's just mainly how it was. Because, like, listen, yesterday I'd have whooped Adam's ass in here. I got grilled all day by R &B. That's your brother. He said some dumb shit. We know he said some dumb shit. But he doesn't know you're hearing it like that.

1:11:56Was it just because it was Zach and it was because at that moment? Because he's mad that I'm having Stan G on the podcast. So there's an ulterior motive behind this. No, I don't fucking about that. That came, bro. That's on your dumb ass. Oh, you mad just because I said you're a playmaker? No, you said. No, I never said it was me. See, Lush, act never said it was me. Because if anybody running plays, I was trying to let it go. It's your punk ass. We had all your lies. You told the motherfuckers. I ain't never said that. Fuck that. You said, how many you coming with? You said, the whole hood, we're going to have a party.

1:12:35You said, back. Me being too nice is not exclusive. Wait, did you say back? Me being too nice is not. They called the police on me. You finna go to jail for some game members? Did you not tell him? What's he wrong? I can pull up a check. I can pull up Travis Ford wrong. Nah. Did you not tell him that? You agreed to him, right? I can pull up Chad GPT right now. You didn't even know the ball he was coming. It'd be like, Chad GPT, just whack 100 run plays and see what it says. No, we're talking about, bro. What about Chad GPT? There's no comparison. But that's how public it is. Show me a play I ran.

1:13:14I bet you Chad GPT will find something. I'm talking to you. Show me a play I ran. Yo ass been fired for running plays. That's not for running a play. But look, what was the play if the police were called on you? You didn't want to play against A.D.? What was the play? Like if the police were called on you, was it really a play, though? If the police were called on you? I think that whack is conflating me being dumb and making game goofy decisions with running a play. Dumb? They're not the same. Let me tell you what was dumb. Were you calling yourself mafia lush? Get in one. That's what I think.

1:13:45Get in. So that's the whole point. He might ask some people in the mafia. You got some people. I'm Italian. I'm Italian. I'm Italian. I'm Italian. Italian. But with that being said, but that's me again. Let me tell you what your play did. That's not your play. His name in it. He ain't here. They do a corn together now. That became his buddy. They did corn together. So my name in it all behind. You told them little crib niggas. They can bring the whole hood up here. I didn't realize the extent. That was obviously a gross miscalculation on my behalf. But so now you're saying they're gross. No, but it turned out to be a nigger showed up with a black eye.

1:14:22Y 'all get caught. No, I didn't. Was that a play? Was that black? Did your girl beat your ass? No, I got down with one of my partners that morning. I got sucked and punched. Man, your partner. What? Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. I came with a black guy. You look a little rough. Hold on. I came with a black guy. That's still your partner? What did you do? If that's your partner, he sucker punched you. You must have did some sucker shit. No, no, no. What did you do? He got packed up. Hold on, Adam. Let me tell you what you did now. So why did you get? One mic. One mic. Let me tell you what you did, though.

1:14:49One mic and it's me. So now, after all that's going on out there, right? You know what Lush tells me? Go get some room, a pier space. The no jumper camera crew is going to meet us up there, and we're going to do it there. He was just trying to get out of the situation. But you're making it worse. So what was going to happen when they never showed up? When who never showed up? The no jumper camera crew. We never got to that point. But you told him that, right? And to be fair. Did you tell him that? Those guys turned out to be really good. Did you tell them that? Well, at the moment, it was kind of like.

1:15:22How did you have your defense? Because you said that they turned out to be really good. Hey, Adam, you get what I'm talking about. We're not going to use a barometer. Are you talking about I'm running plays? He's doing junky shit. Look, you can complain it as that. Are you talking about I'm running plays? Well, yeah. I don't run no plays. There's a difference between busting a dope move, like fucking Chucky in the movie Fresh. That's what I do. I bust all the dope moves. So you bust a move? You feel me? You bust a move. Don't move so you bust on you. He's a move on Travis Ford. Well, I was kind of trying to bust a move on no jumpers, if we're being honest.

1:15:54Whoa. But, like, it wasn't like in a negative way, though. Like, not in a negative way. He's twisting himself. You're a little white, baby. Bro, you just really said that last week. Bust a move on the 22s? I tried to bust. On the 22s? On the whole field. What? TF? He tried to run an overplay for the underplay. It was for a greater cause. It was for a greater cause. cause. Then you went and told them who called the police. No, see, this is where the lies this is where the plays start coming into play. You didn't tell them? You blame nephew. Hell to the nah. Why you blame nephew? You told them Josh called.

1:16:28They said I blame niece. No, you called him Josh called. Whoever you blamed, you snitched. Oh, Lennon. You said Lennon. She wouldn't even understand why anyone would care. I don't think she had any clue. How play did I run, bro? There's been... Can we ask Chad GVT just for fun? I don't know what the fuck that is. What plays are you doing? It's crazy. Up to the end. What else was crazy? What did it say? It knows that we've been arguing about if you run plays or not recently. What plays did I run? WAC 100 has publicly denied running plays behind the scenes, but the topic often stirs controversy.

1:17:04Recently on a No Jumper live stream, Adam 22 accused him of manipulating situations off camera. In response, WAC snapped back quite forcefully, clearly rejecting the claim. yet the rumor isn't new on Reddit users have revisited his statement and others had missions Wax said he doesn't write in plays right but didn't Sharp admit to running a play with Wax that he said he later regretted doing it I didn't let him do it sometimes you gotta give a nigga when he called me he told me what he wanted to do I said bro we can't do that he wanted to have a fake fight oh no I'm a wide baby I'm a get off of your ass cracking again and shit.

1:17:43I'm telling you what's going to happen. According to Jack, I'm cracking again and shit the other day. Wack 100 absolutely crack plays both in the music game and the streets, but depending on who you ask, that's what it's saying. Let me see. Yeah, I do plays in the music. I got called contracts. But what plays do I do? I'm just saying. Hey, yo, hold on. I got a bunch of niggas in here, right? No matter what we say, you're going to find a way. I got a bunch of little street motherfuckers in there, right? One thing they know, one thing they know, is niggas hate or fear Wack because of that paperwork.

1:18:17And Wack say, he got it. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't Wack. Just keep it real. That's why a lot of niggas, a lot of niggas hate Wack. Now you want to call that a play? A lot of niggas hate Wack because Wack exposed a lot of niggas that thought they was gangsta. That's not a play. I'm exposing niggas. Okay. Oh, my mama. A lot of niggas that thought they was gangsta that I was hiding up on this image. When Wack exposed these niggas, everybody hate Wack now. Hold on, Big Sad. You feel me? I told Sad, I said, sit down. You're going to make me exposure. He kept talking. I let him go for 10 days and fake like I didn't have it.

1:18:45At midnight, I put a still shot up of him in the interrogation room. Everybody talking. Six that morning, I pressed play. Was it a play? Was that him? Why could they do Chris Hansen? Like, sit down? That's why they don't like me. Have a seat. Yeah, have a seat. And listen, but see who goes today. Hey, I am a motherfucking Fred C. Nellis, Y.A. Kemp Miller, Silmar Central LP. That's all that. Hit the penitentiary at 16. Listen, and I don't drink or smoke, so I'm more burnt out than the niggas that's under the influence. But wait, what does you being in prison 30 years ago have to do with you currently exposing people for snitching on the internet?

1:19:24I'm going to tell you why. What is the connection there? I'm going to tell you why. Because I have all this training, right? And now I done crossed over into corporate America. So now I can take my reach on the know-how to get things, right? Right? On some street niggas. And then know how to position it and present it on their level. A lot of people don't know how to get to the paperwork. That's what I was figuring. I was trying to figure that out for a long time. Because, you know, I be trying to get paperwork on niggas. I'm like, no, I know what I'm told. You know how to cross reference game.

1:19:57I know that, so I just can't find the paperwork. You know how to cross-reference game between the corporate sphere and the streets and all that very well. Now, let me ask you this. Do you feel like 600 run plays? Oh, come on. I feel like 600 trolls. That's just a new word that you have. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What was the play on Big U? That was paperwork. Dead homies, we presented that. The grid program, nigga. nigga what you mean that ain't gonna play that motherfucking shit look let me tell you I lined him I did line him I sent the square nigga so the paperwork on big you is real nigga we got all the contracts listen I sent the listen I started saying the blackberry shit right I started saying the blackberry nigga you had a black so now we're reading in the paperwork 77 street division issued him a blackberry to communicate with the crash division on gang activity signed by him right So I bait him in the clubhouse.

1:20:57Big Chuck say, hey, man, what's up with this Blackberry whack talking about? The bozo went for it. He said, I ain't never had a Blackberry. You know what I got the whole time? You and Suge in the backyard playing table tennis with your Blackberry. I just wanted you to say you never had one. The next day I dropped it. Bam. With the contract. Bam. Listen, bro, that ain't no paperwork we created. Nigga, they start paying you$550 ,000. Two years later, gave you an increase because of your job performance, another$440 ,000. Right? This is an annual renewal. If you are not turning in guns, hot spots, gang information, right, they are going to give the contract to somebody else.

1:21:39This is a fact. Your man Munchie B, Alex Alonzo, they so damn dumb, they bring this bozo skip, whatever of this nigga, the fake nigga from 20s on there who look like his teeth throwing up every set on the west side, right? They bring him on there and he says, well, we don't work with the police, but if the police call us about the information that we're collecting, we got to give it to them. But yet Munchie B, you telling us, you collecting information of beefs that's going on and different nigga sets and putting it in a goddamn app that's going to a database that the police got access to. This is why I'll tell you I'm not a gangbanger.

1:22:16I'm from But nigga, the day coming, you working the download. Okay, what happened? It was a squabble with who? Lil' what? Lil' C-Dog? He got his nose busted. Okay, what? He had a gun, but did nobody get shot? Cool. Boom, boom, boom, and get paid. And then this fool gonna say, well, with Munchie B, we just put in, we didn't put in his real name, we just put in his date of birth. Now let me ask you, as a white businessman, if you're paying a motherfucker money from the county, the city of Los Angeles, nigga. The only way they're going to pay you is your fucking social security number. First, middle, last name.

1:22:50Everything's on there for them to report your earnings. Nigga, they're not finna just pay no goddamn date of birth. See, this is the corporate side of me where these street niggas can't manipulate me, right? That don't make sense. You're not paying somebody. You don't think this is something that's like, no pun intended, off the grid a little bit as far as like... Ain't no street nigga supposed to be collecting information and putting it in the database, sending it in to the county in the form of law enforcement, my nigga. I know when they started Summer Night Lights, I know that they was having like a bunch of G niggas and shit.

1:23:23I don't know about that. In every park in South Central, right? And they would have meetings with the police and all that type of shit. I see. On my mama. It definitely goes on. You feel me? And I think they was called like PU or APU. Okay, let me ask you something. Yeah. Nine times out of ten, when the ride kick off on the yard and we look up and the people know everything, We blame the niggas that work in the program office. Right. Exactly. Exactly. But it be niggas on the yard, though. They be telling to. They be dropping kites. It be niggas on the yard, bro. And a lot of niggas think that.

1:23:54A lot of niggas on that main line, they think niggas, just because they on the main line, they walk in GP, a lot of them niggas are solid. No, they're not. Oh, yeah. Let's address that, too. Hold on. No, they're not. Let's address this, too. I got to address this. Because if we not, they going to sell a selected party ticket. They bring an allegation on him that he was on an EOP yard. Gumby said that you were a PC Hold up, hold up No, that ain't PC EOP is what we call No, no, no Hold on, hold on Let's talk about it, listen EOP, right, is when people take medication When it gets 90 degrees on the yard They make you go into the building They call it heat meds Now, from my understanding, respectfully I done talked to six hoovers And some more of these little motherfuckers over here They all telling me this motherfucker been mentally burnt out since he been the kid.

1:24:46That he really takes medication. Right? He takes medication. I feel you, brother. But that wasn't a case. But that's what's going to send you to... If it's in your medical file... Put me in the drug area. All you got to do... Snoopy Badass was over there, too. He broke that down. But see, he said he was hustling. He said he was slinging the pills. Everybody know what I went over there and did, though. But it wasn't a PC But Everyone runs plays I ain't gonna play The nigga really Take meds Nigga we all got home My mama take meds Nigga Hey bro Fuckers you talking about I need the meds Sometimes I be needing that shit Nigga I ain't gonna lie Nigga my girl Tell y 'all Nigga I'll be tripping Nigga I'll wake up tripping Bro but I'll be having to like Level myself out But I ain't playing So does that technically Make you a J-Cat Hell no Nigga I'm a pro I think right.

1:25:42You feel me, right? Listen. Hey, this will make you a J-Cats. J-Cats is niggas that's running around talking to themselves. They don't brush their teeth. They don't clip their nails. They don't cut their nails. That shit can't peel be done. Exactly. Wearing the same suit for 15 fucking years. That's why I don't like to keep fucking clench his nails and paint them. No, that's what it's happening. But look, his medication may keep him balanced to where he functions. Hey, look, so my problem was I'm hyper, bro. I'm naturally hyper, nigga. What do they call it? ADHD. I have ADHD. and I have ADD. When I was little, he got a badass little kid.

1:26:13Ass whoopings got you right. Nigga, my, hey, my people right here, nigga, my homies right here. They're nodding, like aggressively nodding. We all got homies just burnt like that. Everybody like, yo. I know I got along with this guy for some reason. Now it makes sense. Hey, look, bro. Fucking four extras got ADHD. Nigga, I got it. It's so bad. I got something. All that jumping around, that nigga's hyper. But look, when I went over there, I was in a hole. You feel me? Niggas did some sucking shit, but I was in a hole. And when I was in a hole, I had popped at a little, you know, somebody who worked back there.

1:26:49Fuck it, because I was under investigation or whatever. But nigga was up. You popped out of Freestyle or something? Yeah. And I knocked her. Nigga, everywhere I went. Man, everywhere I went. I never forget. You feel like the man? Man, everywhere I went, though. Let me tell the story. Don't tell the old story. Everywhere I went, bro, all my mama, all my homies know that. My family in the streets know that. Every EOP yard that I touched. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects.

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1:28:07Pete Clearwater. Learn more at visitspc.com. I knocked the bitch there, bro. So he's doing drugs and getting pussy. Look, my homie is saying. That's how I was caught a fire. That's what they're saying. Lock me up. But look, bro. A nigga had all the weed. I had all the vape pants. He ain't no J.K. I had all the phones. Nigga, I was on. You feel me? Niggas calling me to come back over there. I'm like, nigga, I don't know if this is a game. I don't know if niggas want my pot, but I'm a loat. Nigga, can't nobody tell me what to do. My whole boy insane. Nigga, I got whooped every day, nigga, three, four, five times a day because my granny and my uncle, I couldn't listen to them.

1:28:52Like, nigga. I had the comments. My whole boy insane got life. I'm talking to him one day. He said, yeah, I just got out the hole. And that's not PC, by the way, Adam. That's not PC. PC is motherfuckers who have rape charges, snitch charges, people who sodomize older people, and niggas who tell. I ain't never got none of those. Nigga, I ain't never told all about you. So can we clear the rumor up because I know my homie Tank from OVG said, dude wasn't tampering with Gumby. He scratched Gumby. He tried to get Gumby to take something. He didn't take it. He tried to stick Gumby. The next day, the yard went down.

1:29:25Niggas threw knives. The G homie, whoever y 'all G homie was coming out. They cuffed him, and because he was throwing out, they said Gumby, pick one up, and jug dude. He said he never heard a dude touching Gumby sexually. Now, I heard other shit, but my whole boy told me. Gumby was topping him off. Let's keep it real. Look, look, look. Hold on. Hold on. He told me that. Hold on. Hold on. This is terrifying. Hold on. Hold on, man. Look. Gumby was just messing with some girl named Sabrina. You feel me? I'm going to just say some girl named Sabrina, right? What does that mean? Is that code for something?

1:30:02No, he was panning. I was talking about it. He was panning. Do you feel me? When he was panning, he was panning the hit. But he wasn't getting no pussy up out the jug. Nothing. Like, he panning for the butt on my mama. These are facts. I don't know. But, nigga, if you spinning racks like that, bro, why you never want that? Like, you always running that. Is it possible that Sabrina's box was trash? Is it possible? Hold on, another one. That could have been powerful. She was a witch. Another thing, I want to address this. I'm not saying this is true, but if you put a puzzle in front of me, bro, I'm going to put the pieces together, right?

1:30:41So it's like this. I get information that Gumby was, he had somebody that we all know. You feel me? He had them. Gumby even called in and even said, he made himself – Looked stupid. Because he called in and he said, I was at my brother's house one night and I ate a half a pound of mushrooms. Whoa. Half of him? No, he didn't. He called in and he said that. Listen. Right? Nigga, no, I know what the fuck I know. Bro, you feel me? I'm really from Hoover Street. I'm not from the Dino. I'm not from San Bernardino. I'm from Westside over, nigga. You feel me? This is real, nigga. So, nigga on the dead homies, bro.

1:31:25Nigga, you had the homie over there. nigga at your brother house you ate a half a pound of mushrooms and you start touching him in his sleep nigga oh my mama nigga and hey look and i'm gonna put this on my life i'm gonna put this on my life nigga i ain't gotta lie nigga i don't need these interviews nigga to tell a story that happened by default nigga nigga a nigga bullied you in and doing that bro and ain't like and you waited till a nigga was cuffed to go kill a nigga bro that's pussy shit on the dead homies nigga the boogeyman gonna come get you in front of the boys. Nigga all that. Nigga not gonna wait till you're cuffed up.

1:31:59Nigga gonna get his neck. If somebody's threatening to rape you, I feel like you could just kill him. He gives a fuck up there and cuffs. I'm scared to talk bad about devil. What's up with these niggas blaming everything on AI these days, bro? Y 'all nothing this AI nigga that snitch nigga that told on camera these niggas said that was AI. Who told on camera? Nigga the nigga Lamont. The nigga that Gumby paid for the nigga lawyer. I swear to God, bro. Oh, my God. I got to be paid for the nigga. We got to clear this up, too, right? Because this is real shit. I didn't see on the Internet niggas from all tribes do some crazy shit.

1:32:35We got niggas interrogation room telling we didn't see niggas running. We seen the A-Trage DP do. Remember, he was cross-dressing, walking down the street. Oh, yeah. They DP do like so. So my thing is like this, right? And this is starting to bother me and irritate me, right? If we reporting on or talking about a conversation with everybody is visually seeing on the Internet, right? Why is Gumby pressing the line that when we're talking about a couple years ago, right? They say the dude was a rider. Whoever the dude from Hoover or something, right? They say some videos was out. A dude performing oral sex on another dude, right?

1:33:16Then it was another dude. Felatio. Then they said it was a dude with fishnets rubbing oil on his body, right? I'm going to tell you this. It ain't no tribe on my mama who ain't got homies that fuck with me and the punks in that penitentiary. I just seen every tribe. I don't give a fuck what you're talking about, whether you know it or don't know it. So why do motherfuckers get mad when that man did that? We ain't saying that's what all the hoofers do. That's just where dude is from. and they identified such and such named this from this. Now, dude was wild because he came on the internet the next day and said, so what?

1:33:56Y 'all just niggas mad because your girls like you. So you're surprised that we're weirded out by people who rape other men in prison? Yeah, I'm trying to... I mean, are y 'all weirded? I'm about to do y 'all like that. Y 'all don't see a problem with that? Hell yeah, it's a problem. No, we do. We think it's super weird. No, okay, now... It doesn't really happen out here. I'm only sitting in the middle. It's absolutely terrible. You're sentimental, right? When somebody tell me I'm your bitch in my ear, nigga, I'm going crazy. That's what I'm saying. That's a little obvious body. You got to kill him.

1:34:27Let me not get a traffic ticket. That's what the devil told Gumby. And he didn't get on for a damn. No, he didn't. He killed him. Gumby waited, bro. Look at the pussy shit he did. He stabbed Gumby and whispered in his ear, you my bitch. Remember that, Gumby? This is out of a movie. Remember that? It feels like this has been being passed down for like 20 years, right? That do change the narrative. No, that's the story. That's what they say in all YouTube videos about Gubby. Hey, all right, nigga, the devil told you that, and you sent him to hell. Yeah, I remember that. Okay, but that's a different narrative than what you were just talking about, topping off and all that.

1:35:01Man, bro, listen. So which one is it? Yeah, if he's gay, why do you want to kill the motherfucker who tried some gay shit with him? Man, what you mean? Didn't devil tell him, you my bitch? And then he killed him. He told you, you my bitch, Gubby. That's what I'm saying. That's how much he didn't want to get raped. I've seen situations. It was already happening. That's the question. It was already happening. What are you talking about? Don't let this man lie. The homie told me that. Listen. These niggas be here to fuck their gang strips and all that. I've seen situations where new dudes come in.

1:35:32They go on the sale and we watching. Staff do their last counters about 2 o 'clock. He in their sleep. And we hear, stop. What are you doing? Hey, man. Wait. Wait. And we hear it, right? And the next morning, I've seen situations where that same dude come out switching and holding his belt loop. But I've also seen situations. Shut the fuck up. No, for real. This is a fact. And it's being a niggas that you don't even think. But I've also seen situations. Hold on. I've seen situations where that same dude came out on yard unlock, went and got a 20-pound dumbbell, a clean dude's clock. So I wouldn't call that dude gay.

1:36:09He 120 pounds. This nigga 250. hitting eight quarters. He'd been locked up. He's strong as a bull. It wasn't called Gumby Day? No, the dude that got taken advantage of in the sales. He had to do it to survive. But came out and cleaned his clock with something because he had to... He's shaming Gumby for taking 20 minutes to kill the guy. No, but he's saying 20 minutes, nigga, it was way longer than that. It was the same day. It seemed like it was like 20 seconds later. He busted on Gumby, bro. He busted on Gumby and told Gumby that he was his bitch. So how long after that did he stab dude? I don't know, but it wasn't immediately.

1:36:46Man, Gumby the grim raper. Gumby had to go. Listen. Did Gumby tell the people what he did to him? No, he didn't tell. He didn't tell. I'm not going to say he told. So how'd he get a manslaughter? He did something. Man, what you mean? Because, nigga, he was raping him, bro. Priya. What is Priya? I thought they gave him life originally. You know what I'm saying? Prison rape for elimination. Like an innocence program or some shit got him off. Innocent program got him off, right? But at the same time, Innocent program is not going to get you involved in no Priya. That's how you beat a high one. What is Priya?

1:37:19Priya is Prison Rape Elimination Act. So let's say me and you sell these. Right? So that's what he filed. I'm going to donate to that. The fact that that exists is you don't know. He was raping them. What else? Oh, man. Listen, bro. They gave him a first degree premeditated murder. Exactly. Stabbing a nigga that's handcuffed. Exactly. But for him to get a manslaughter, remember, when they took away his initial case and said he shouldn't have been in jail, he had to fit that time with a time served towards the manslaughter on his homie. So how did you get a manslaughter, a first degree, broke down to a manslaughter?

1:37:55I'm sorry. Are your infractions while incarcerated ever go to jury trial, or is it always just, like, determined by— No, nigga, you go to trial. You go to trial, nigga. Fuck it. Right, so regular court. ain't no motherfucking regular jury gonna ever convict somebody who just killed the guy that tried to rape him or whatever it was amusing but that's where the prison rape elimination comes in at right so look so let's say do they gotta inspect your body they don't catch you in the act but no if you topping somebody off they sell toothpaste you can easily So how did he prove that? Or did he just run a plate?

1:38:38Man, that's the play. Maybe he just pulled him out to get his hand slapped. Hold on, but look. Look at what he was known for, though. He was known for that, right? So if you know that somebody is known for something, right, and they're bullying you, taking advantage of you, you know what I mean? Because you're 120 pounds. And you end up killing them while this person is handcuffed in front of the police. This blatant murder, right? Like, everybody just seen that. That's blatant murder. But where the trick. Some may call it justice. Look, where the trick comes in. I'm talking with it. This is where the trick comes in.

1:39:13When a nigga handcuffed and you just stab a nigga, ain't no sexual act going on. He's a booty warrior. No shit. But this is what it is. When they get on you, now you got to have a defense, right? You know how. I don't know. I hate to say this, bro. But listen. Listen. If a female says he sodomized me and she goes to the doctor, what are they going to do? They're going to do a rape kit. They're going to expect her to wreck them. Yeah. So what I'm saying is for him to get the first degree murder broke down to a manslaughter under this sex act or whatever this shit is. Prison rape. It hasn't been some type of something to prove that something ain't going on.

1:39:52Now I'm going to play devil's advocate. Maybe he's a keister king. No, maybe he's a keister king. And the shit was already blew out. No elastic around his booty. No, maybe he was a keister because these niggas keister cell phones, knuckles, knives. Maybe Gumby said, I keister everything. I know how I look back to you already because it's how I'm hustling. So I'm going to tell him this is what he was doing to me. You're going to be like, exactly. It's a defense. They do the rape kit. They're like, oh, it looks like you've had a rusty piece of metal in here for the last few months. Someone's redecorated.

1:40:24I was going to do a bull. You reupholster your bull, sir. Adam, you see what I'm saying? How did you get from a first-degree murder reduced down to a manslaughter? you would have to say that program, he was doing something to me. Like you said, he had a reputation. You got to have a defense, bro. I'm just saying maybe Gumby was keistering shit, and he knew if they inspect me, it's going to look that way. Because it's like this. Black really going to like this. No, I'm giving him my way out. What do you mean? I'm giving a nigga some fight. Exactly, but when you fight a case, your public defender, your lawyer, they're always going to come and ask you what happened, right?

1:40:59And their best defense is to try to get you out of jail. Right? So they have to come up with a scheme. If they know, this is my client. He just told me straight up he did it. But I'm hired by him. His people paying me. He's going to lie from me. Right? So the money is good. What me and my client talk about is confidential. So we're going to run a scheme together. Everybody does it. So what would be the real story, though? That he was touching them. That he was fucking them. You feel me? Period. and he can say, I'm going to be real. Is he wrong? Is he wrong? Now, we're going to find the paperwork and they say that and they're going to fry his ass up.

1:41:36Yeah, let's find it. But I'm going to be real. I believe. Let's find out how. He's on the hunt. Listen, let's find out how. I believe. Let's find out how he got that manslaughter unless he told the police that devil stabbed him. Because that's the only other way that you can get a manslaughter. Did you just let my boy have his body? Hell yeah. Wait, you would call him. Let him claim one. Would you call that snitching? If he said, listen, if he told the police to beat his case, the devil stabbed me, he's dead now. He didn't tell him when he stabbed me. He told him after he killed him. Is that telling?

1:42:12Yes, that's telling. You can't snitch on a dead op that tried to rape you. A lot of people say rape you. A lot of people say rape you. Hey, bro, look. Me personally, I'm not snitching. The streets are not for me. The streets are a myth If you can't tell them Your own rapist The streets is different Everywhere Like in Chicago Like in Chicago And Gary Indiana Like in the Midwest Yeah out there It's different Like when Like I know my cousins Is from the Midwest Like all my people From out there You feel me Like Indy and all that Chicago and all that But there I just was out there You feel me Fucking with my people But their thing Is this Like if somebody Dies Nigga It's like Nigga you Blame it on The dead I had a lot of LA people tell me that.

1:42:56A lot of people in LA told me that they feel like that's normal, too. I don't know how facts this is. We're going to clear it up. But I think. What's happening there, nigga? Tank, now look, you live on No Jumper. I told him that you text me the other day. I grew up with this man from a kid. I know him. He was in jail with Gumby, and he told me. He was there when it happened. He was there when it happened. He said, dude, scratch Gumby. Right? I guess some days, a week later, somebody blew a dart at the sergeant and lieutenant. Go ahead, Tank. You take it from here. Gumby, nothing homosexual happened with Gumby, bro.

1:43:36Bro, let him take. Let him take. Listen, something happened that didn't have nothing to do with Gumby. Knives was thrown, and a knife landed by another nigga that was from Hoover that, you know what I'm saying, that was supposed to be a factor, T-Bird. You know what I'm saying? And he went to the hole for Gumby's knife. And he sent a kite back to the yard and said that Gumby should be DP. Instead of Gumby being DP in a much lesser way, they scratched Gumby. They scratched Gumby. Gumby came back and bust on this nigga and killed this nigga. But Gumby didn't mean to kill that nigga. You know what I'm saying?

1:44:14On some real shit. You know, that's just how it happened. Oh, here go the question to you, Tank. He's telling me that there's some program in there called Priya, right? Now, my thing is... Priya didn't happen until 10, 15, 20 years. But how did he get from a first-degree murder to a manslaughter? He had to tell them something happened. The manslaughter happened because he got stabbed first. So, Gumby told. Well, he didn't tell. No, he didn't tell. Everybody's seen it. It was broad daylight on the yard in front of the police. Hold on. But see, that's what I'm saying, bro. Nigga got to get some paperwork on this because, look, if a nigga, listen, I'm a real nigga, Tate, right?

1:44:55I don't even fuck with a nigga, but I'm a real nigga. Hey, I'm going to tell the nigga the truth. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. What'd you say, Tate? Who is that that's talking? That's Hawk. That's Hawk from Hoover. From Hoover. Hawk from what? What Hawk? I was up there with Big Hawk. He did 20. Yeah, that's the G homie. Yeah. I'm his little homie. I'm his little homie. This is the motherfucker right here, right? Your big homie was up there on the yard with us. Okay, so look. So this is what I'm saying, bro. If the whole yard seen Devil stab Gumby, right? The whole yard seen it. And let's say the police cuff Devil up.

1:45:33They sit there. They assess that situation. They bring Devil back. No, that didn't happen. The police didn't cuff him. The yard seen it, but the police didn't see it. Okay. That's what I'm telling you. So where did the manslaughter come in at then? So what happened is everybody's talking. You got niggas that's talking. You got people that's talking that's PCing up on the yard. PCs, there was no PC yours before this. Back then, right. PC yours came right around this time. Right. There was no such thing as a PC order, S-N-Y order, none of that before this time, bro. Okay. So this is what I'm telling you.

1:46:06So when this happened, after this happened, this is when PC yours and shit started to happen. I was in the hole with Gumby for a year with Dan Tan. All the niggas that Gumby named on that one podcast,

1:46:20Dantana, all the niggas that you read about in the book, I was on the yard. We was young niggas on the yard with these niggas. I'm telling you. There was no such thing as a PC yard. There was no such thing as Priya. None of that shit. That shit all came later. Now, here goes the thing with him. How did he get the mask out? How did he get to a mask out? He said the PC people gave statements to the police. So look at this. Gummy already was in there for murders that supposedly he didn't do, right? Hypothetically. We all know the script how it goes. And this shit happens on the yard. So when you're arrested for a murder, they do what they call a penalty phase.

1:47:04It's a penalty phase where they open up your whole life, where they go back to your kindergarten years, right? So when he's in there fighting the murder for devil, they do the penalty phase and they open up all this shit and break it all up. His old case that he's in there for and all this. Gumby cracked the lawyer, bro. We up in there, Gumby coming back from court with liquor and weed and all kind of shit. He cracked the lawyer, but we all, I'm in the hole with him for knocking out the police. I knocked out the police. I swabble like five or six, seven, eight police and all this. We all in the hole.

1:47:35Me and my homies, we in the hole with this nigga for this, bro. I know this nigga. He was in that hole. Now, look. Now, here go the thing about him, right? Gumby a legend. Here go the thing about him, right? Hold on. Gumby. This is not working if it doesn't make him sound bad. Here go the thing about Tank, right? Tank is a dude that grew up with us, right? All of us. But he's the one oddball turned crib. Okay. And he turned crib knowing damn well the crew to worry about, he would laugh. He'd be like, I don't care what y 'all did. When they come over here, they ain't going to do nothing to me. because he was like our brother.

1:48:10Even though he turned, we couldn't see him like that, right? And he would whoop niggas' asses. He would whoop niggas' asses and shit. But the crew, the squad, the baby gangsters that people worried about, he like, nigga, all them my niggas, they ain't finna never do that. And he right. Exactly. So when he tell me, whack, this didn't happen, it's how this happened, I was dead. Because I saw him a day before he went to jail, and he is a victim of the three-strike law. nigga did 26 years for a pistol on a strike we go to the party and next day he gone right so I don't run plays what's real is real what's bullshit is bullshit what's bullshit is I didn't definitely sign no damn young magnificent that has something to do with Big U baby crazy yo from Harlem 30s man that nigga be lying bro alright take appreciate it that nigga be lying bro period so it looked at me like no homosexual activity happened Team Gumby Woo woo woo woo He can be fucking And no gay shit We ain't take it all away Dead homies Nigga that nigga got Allegations on him bro Period He did not anymore Man That's one person Look Now he was dead Hold on He could have been In a prison with him Right And Gumby could have He could have That nigga could have Went to the hole Way before Gumby Did what he did You feel me Period Nigga so If you wasn't near the witness No no he was on the yard He said after Gumby did what he did, him and his homies took off on the police.

1:49:40So how you going to say that these snitch niggas told? My whole thing is this, bro. See, remember I told you when I was in front of the dead? Wasn't no S-N-Y-P-C-Yard. PC niggas is telling on the dead, though. But he said he ain't do nothing gay, though. That's the biggest takeaway. All right, but there's people that's alive and living now saying that he did, though. Independent? From your neighbor? Oh, my mama. Nigga, homegirl saying that. Yeah, but they wasn't in the opinion, though. You heard what the homie told you, what he was doing. But Magnificent never told you that. You heard what he was doing.

1:50:10Alshon Martin, you know, we're going to put on the table. Dan homies, nigga. Alshon said. That nigga was touching that nigga in his sleep. Hold on. He said, Young Magnificent said Gumby was off a bunch of shrooms. He went to sleep. That's what Alshon said. Wait, before Gumby called in. He said. Dude woke up. He was asleep on his couch. He said Gumby was squatted on the side of him, blowing in his ear and putting his finger in his ear. touching him and shit. This is what Alshon said. Young Magnificent has never said these things. I'm like, Young Magnificent. Have you called Young Magnificent? I ain't talked to him.

1:50:46You need to call him. I can call the home. But listen, my thing with Gumby is I seen you one time, Gumby. I looked out for you. I got you in the club in San Bernardino. That was like 10, 11, 12 years ago. You was asking me, I'm doing some Netflix. I told you, listen, I ain't had time to talk about that. Got you in, get your bottle looked out. I met Young Magnificent through Baby Crazy or Pet Bull from Harlem 30s. I had nothing to do with you. I signed Blueface. That was in 2022-ish. I signed Blueface in 2018. So for you to say I signed Young Magnificent because I got into it with Big U. Nigga, I'm from Paul Rue.

1:51:22And me and Big U shit has always been whacking Big U. His homies that always stayed out of it, my homies that stayed out of it. That could have been But you also signed because he's a good artist. I want to say this about I never came over there I came over there in the 50s to do a video because they asked me to come over there I want to say this about Gumby bro period nigga just how that nigga run with shit when he wasn't there I wasn't there when the situation happened but I know this nah cause that nigga wasn't there when my situation happened right but I know this I know nigga you were just in a hot man building that's it But this nigga popping it, bro.

1:52:04Like, he just like that. What is that? What you got? It's crazy because it's very rare to see, like, hoovers getting at each other. Man, that's because I never see y 'all do that. Hey, you want to know why? You want to know why? Y 'all are the most unified. No, it ain't that. How are we the most unified, nigga, when it's back door shit going on? Nigga, you got a whole bunch of buster niggas in the way right now. You feel me? This is real niggas outside. You feel me? These niggas calling in, getting niggas put on house arrest as soon as they come home from prison. Oh, my mama, they're calling in niggas parole officers.

1:52:34Oh, man, I'm scared for my life. Let me ask you a question. Oh, Jesus Christ. Like, let me ask you something, because I'm going to be real. How do you feel about, I know you from Hoover, but are you still a gangbanger? I'm a gang member. Okay. Now, I don't, I don't sit on this. I don't stand on street corners and shit. Okay. So how do you feel about, because I tell people like, bro, I really want to remove my people from where they at and show them how to get out of there. Right. Now, this is my problem with Gumby. He's 50 years old, and the youngsters is watching him. And all his antics, they're going to want to imitate him.

1:53:10You hear me say all the time, I'm not a gangbanger. I tell the kids, go to the military, go to the goddamn police academy, go do something different before you get caught up. Become a truck driver. Gumby's a gangbanger, though. Listen, and that's because I do this type of shit. Okay. I do this, right? Power Hour. Leadership empowerment. Now, this is my thing, Adam. You sat down and potted with Krip Mac, Brick Baby, and I think Brick Baby got some intelligence, but he still caught up. What he called a Brick Baby is now no dummy. Brick is smart. And you potted with me. You know where I come from.

1:53:44My homies be with me. Do you take me for, like, them? Like, the dudes that's, like, on some extra gangbang type shit? You're saying you're better and smarter than all your friends? No. What he's saying is, look, Look, we come from a background. No, I'm asking you. We come from a gangbanging background, right? Hold on, hold on. I want them to ask you. Four extras, Crip Mac, the Brick Babies, you didn't sit down with all of them? You're asking if I think you're smarter than them. No, do you think that I'm from the street. Do you think that I'm on their way like the shit they own? Everything is. No.

1:54:21You seem like you're living a pretty respectable lifestyle aside from screaming on Clubhouse until four in the morning every night. Why you hating on clubhouse, bro? Basically, what he's saying is this, Adam. It's a difference between gangbanging and being a gang member. Like, we members. We from where we from. Right. But we don't. We're not contributing. We're not out here contributing to the bullshit. We're not telling the little homies to go do bunk shit. Like, go over here and slide. We're not doing that. We're not tripping on niggas because of their tattoos or their color. We're not doing that, bro.

1:54:53Ralph and Callis. I've been hearing about this book. Not even a certain forehead tattoo? I've been hearing about this guy. I don't care what kryptonite got on this forehead. I don't care. He's from 135, bro. Only 135 pace. If you get mad at somebody like that at this stage in the game, you don't need to be game-banging. And the reason why I say that is because you have to expect that coming from that side. He's from neighborhood. You have to expect that. He's from neighborhood. And if I be dead, something to him. If I seen X-Fo, my initial thought, it'd be like, damn. Would you get him? I think today you wouldn't get him.

1:55:26Nah, I wouldn't, right? Because I'm to that point in this shit to where it's like. Any little. I can have conversations with niggas like, bro, why you do that? You feel me? Like, nigga, you really feel like that? Like, a lot of people, family been victimized, bro, by the homies. So I understand it, right? Okay, what if you were on vacation and you went to the club and you saw your op in the club? No, no, no, no, no, no. No, stop. You saw Gumby. Oh, man. Because T-Rail said it was up. Whoa. Ain't no different regular after. He made that trip. Whoa. No, but you in the Caribbean, though. No, what have you seen the dude you been looking for?

1:56:01Man. You been saying, I'm going to whoop when I see you. I don't care if the what I see you is on, what's on. And your big homie, Kendrick Lamar, really looking for him. No, you running to him in Turks. Right? Now, your girl with you, I'm going to factor in your girl like mine. My girl going. Right. Right? You running to Gumby in Turks. Are you having to drink with him or is it on? we can holler like, man, you feel me? I mean, it's always... Then you should stop woofing by gun. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Gummy gang, gummy gang. Nope, nope, nope, nope. Fuck that. I'm some sorcery. I'll tell you why.

1:56:39You want to know why? You want to know why? Rebuttal. Because that's really your homie at the end of the day. You see him in Turks. No, no, no. You see him in our business. No, no, no. Let me ask you another person. No, no, no. Let me ask you another person. I ain't seen something. Nigga, this shit never is. Nigga, we beep until you die. Somebody else run up on Gumby. Not till I die. You think somebody else punch Gumby in his chest? I got it. You're going to fight with him. Let's say this. You've been down 10 years, right? Right. The nigga been dissing your dead homies. This nigga you've been seeing every time you see him.

1:57:10He doing the hand signals. Nigga, he didn't roll it on everything. You go home the next morning. They call you for pill call. This fool then got moved from the other yard, and they got him in pill call, right in front of you. What you doing? I'm cracking this shit. So Lee got me to fucking love me. No, no. Just like you get off on him, going home the next day. But you said if you see Gummy and Turks, y 'all don't know how to make me. No, no, no. Leave it alone. Wait, you just put us in two different scenarios. Hold on. He put us in two different locations, right? You want to, you want to, you want to prison.

1:57:43Prison is very different. No, prison is mandatory. Fucking still finna catch six months. No, you're not. I'm maxed out every time I did. Every time I didn't ever have no max out. No, nigga, I'm going to max out. We found the man you catching a 115, nigga. Well, add it to the books, nigga. A million of them. Dead go. Add it to the books. But if we – you said – You know what I'm noticing, Turks. You know what I'm noticing, what? The majority of your homes. And I'm watching. Because, you know, you got to remember. They scared again. When I came up as a Damu, it wasn't in style. So we had to read the room quick.

1:58:19We had to know – it was a respectable get-off. Get off because you know it's going to get... Listen, your homies really don't want you and Gumby doing this. I know they don't. Okay, so hold on. You say you from Westside Hoover, right? Absolutely, man. You from Westside Hoover. You ain't from Westside Hawk. I'm from Westside Hoover. Okay, so... No, no, no. If the majority of your homies is saying, we don't want this to happen because of everybody is going... Because Gumby probably got catch with him that your team fuck with and vice versa. Why you won't come off of it? If you have a conversation with even Turks, why won't you just have a conversation, agree to disagree, and give each other the space and kill the conversation?

1:59:05Because, man, some people think they bigger than the room. You feel me? And he's somebody that... Didn't let him think that. He ain't telling you what to do. Man, how he not? He trying to. You feel me? He's sitting here. He telling me, listen. Oh, he said you went from the hood. Man, he can't never say that. Gumby don't want to fight him. He can't, man. What? I was blind. But what? If that happened, would you move past it? Nah, they not. It don't happen like that. I just had a conversation. Well, you get an OG nigga, he ain't taking the L. Hey, look. And the young nigga ain't taking the L. Hey, I'm going to keep it real.

1:59:37Wack, I'm glad you asked that question. You feel me? Because I just had a little political conversation with two of my homies on the phone. You feel me? And I was telling my homies, like, look. I'm willing to move past certain shit with certain niggas. You feel me? So I'm like, all right, if, you know, nigga, this nigga right here, I'll move past that. This nigga right here, I'll move past that. This nigga, though, you feel me? Just his views, bro. I don't like his views, bro. You feel me? I don't like his views. Y 'all from the same clique or two different? Nah, he from 9-1. He from Next Do. It's the same thing, though.

2:00:10He from 9-4? I'm from 9-4. He from 9-Dos. You feel me? It's the same shit. I'm from 9-Dos part two. You feel me? So it's like, just because we from the same gang, we can be from the same gang. No, right from nine dudes. Nine dudes. I was a wide with Rats. Straight ride. But look, we can be from the same gang, right? But we different cliques, bro. Like my cliques and your cliques is different, bro. Like you're going to be real with younger niggas. Yeah, but I'm saying you really don't. You just said if y 'all was in church. You'll have a conversation with him as a man. I'll have a conversation.

2:00:42You can't be that serious, right? Listen, listen. This is what I'm saying. I have a conversation with a nigga, but during that conversation, what I'm saying now, not going to change. You feel me? Why don't y 'all disagree to disagree? Okay, if you love your neighborhood and you know you and him clashing like that, may cause... I love my set. He didn't like that word. Yeah, you're saying. You know you love your set, right? Listen, may cause individuals on both sides that get along or may be related to end up in a situation they don't need to be in, don't you think it's easy for y 'all just to let it go?

2:01:22Because ain't nobody been robbed, shot, killed. Ain't nobody took nothing. I don't know if somebody fuck somebody's woman. If that happened, you can't blame him. Gumby fuck all the hoes. Gumby getting fucked by the hoes. No. You got to kill that. He's not ready for peace. You see that? No, no, look. He ain't Jamie yet. I got to stop saying that. No, no, look. All right, look, so we're going to move past that, right? Because I wasn't there. So I'm not going to argue with a nigga that says he was there in real time, right? I'm going off of the sources that I fuck with and how they were being valid with me.

2:01:55You feel me? And I'm going to stand on what my people tell me. You know what I mean? A lot of motherfuckers don't know what goes on between this hoover shit, bro. You feel me? That's why a lot of people think that this shit is close-knit, which, you know, it's 716. We all love each other. You know, we love the set, but we all got the same love for the set. But we all don't have the same love for each other. I just ain't seen y 'all interliving with each other as much as other people. Because, bro, it's a whole lot of structure. For the record, I'm the one. The Paul Rue is the one that named Young Magnificent's motherfucking album.

2:02:31I named it 716 Degrees. Get it right. This a fact. Step that. Asking. Facts. You know what I'm saying? I named it. Step that. I know what that is. Rest in peace, Hoover D. That's my nigga. I want to answer that question, though. You know what I'm saying? Y 'all need to kill the shit. Because you milk. And that's why you did what you did. It's a whole lot of shit going to be. Nah, man. Because of milk. Motherfucker. I stood up for milk. No, no. You did what you did. Bro, look. It's a whole lot of shit. It's only three of y 'all doing it. It's a whole lot of snob. Nah, nah. It's another nigga doing it.

2:03:04You feel me? But like I said. Only three of y 'all doing it. I ain't even going to mention his name. Because he chasing something. for a nigga to come to them terms with somebody like that you have to have some of that person's views. Yes you do. Y 'all can agree to disagree and stand out each other's space. Because it is. And this is why it's not gonna work. You feel me? If that nigga know I feel how I feel about him bro he the type of nigga that's gonna try to do something. When the last time you seen him? That's my point. Fido's day. Huh? You seen him? Oh, you seen him this year? Fido's day this year.

2:03:42Okay, now how'd it go? Dead homies, I was five feet from that nigga. How'd it go? He walked right past me, didn't see me, didn't say nothing. So y 'all stop playing kill the internet again. Hold on, wait, but this is why I say this nigga fake. Because when I first came home, I was with the homie from Insane, bro. You feel me? Gumby fucked with this nigga. So he like, yeah, nigga, I fuck with your boy Gumby. I'm like, yeah, that's the homie. You feel me? But I'm really temperature checking niggas, bro. concerned niggas feel a way that they won't tell you when they around you you feel me period so i'm like temperature checking i'm like yeah nigga he cool that's the homie whatever he calls gumby facetiming the homie from insane you know who you is bro i fuck with you heavy nigga on the dead homies nigga expose that nigga so nigga he called him on facetime he put me on facetime with the nigga gumby lights up and a big old kool-aid smile he looked so handsome he looked so handsome bro He looked so handsome That nigga Oh that's a good look bro I miss you groove On the dead homies And then here it is Fast forward nigga To two years later He got all this fuck shit to say You feel me so I don't You think y 'all can do a pod together?

2:04:50After we squabble So if you can't If he don't want to squabble It's still a problem I mean You tripping I mean look That could be a viral pod Man look That's what I'm saying bro Let me tell you something, bro. This is real shit and you know that. Squabble talk. It's some dudes over there that ain't gonna even let Gumby squabble you. No, they not. They not gonna let me squabble. So what I'm saying is, like, listen, and I'm not from Hoover, but I understand these streets and I done been on these yards. What I'm telling you, bro, is let that shit go before the politic turn on you. It ain't right or wrong.

2:05:28Man, it's already like... That's what I'm saying. You got homies with you. I know that, but Look, this is what I'm saying, Wack. I'm literally like this. This is how I move, bro. I move like if a nigga come for me on the dead, homies, I want to see what that's about, bro, period. Like, nigga, we men, nigga. How about you just hit reset? Boom. I can hit reset. Okay, so if you can hit reset, right? Right. And Gumby is, whether you want to like it or not, he an OG from Hoover, right? He said what he's saying. I challenge you to show him what he shouldn't do by killing the slander on the internet.

2:06:08And then if he keep doing it, I guarantee you the politics going to roll against him. Maturity challenge. Why? I got like an epiphany during the podcast. No, I just keep it. I don't like to see people. Listen, bro. I don't like, bro. Listen, bro. Listen, bro. Fuck what he talking about. Look, I'm feeling the vibe of his homies, and I'm getting a strong feeling that some people on Gumby's side, they may know, family member, whatever. So I'm telling you as a leader or somebody that's positioned amongst your circle, bro, nigga, sometimes you got to make a decision for all, not just you. And if you telling me if you ran into Gumby and Turks, you would, y 'all would have a conversation as a man.

2:06:50But yet, if you seen a nigga dissing your hood a day before you going home after the dime, you would take off on him. I got a question that I was trying to ask earlier. When you walk into the club in Turks, before you even get a chance to think about what you're going to say to Gumby, you see some motherfucker from Turks and Caicos just swing on him, clocks him in the jaw. He needs help. That's not my business. You're going to hop in that shit? I'm not helping you. I think you are. I'm not helping you. You're going to get your ass DP. That's some busted shit, bro. That's some busted shit. Hey, but that ain't my boy.

2:07:23You don't have to move, nigga. You obligated. Hold on. Hold on. You obligated. I don't give a fuck what you talking about. You gotta do it. I've always told niggas, I'm only obligated to get on with you and not run on you and not tell on you, right? If I put into something and it's a nigga I don't get along with, and he getting rushed, you tell, Hulk, that's some busted shit. You're not, nigga, what you mean? You're not the Island Boys pack out the homie? That's stopping the hook out. What the fuck? That's crazy. Fly soldier gotta see what's up. You're gonna get DP when you get back. All you think is better whoop his ass as soon as he get back.

2:08:00I can't do that, bro. You're going to be waiting at LAX. You can't do that. You need to go grab some bean pies or a bite with you. You ain't supposed to let... No, no, no, no. That's true, right? But look, you know that. Run my name. No. No, listen. Hold on. Let me say this. You don't want to keep it real. I'm keeping it real. You wouldn't help him? This is response to what you're asking, right? No, he asked it. You wouldn't help him? you telling me you wasn't going to help him and niggas is whooping on him, bro? How tough are the guys? Yeah. I think that should be it. That's definitely a factor.

2:08:32You know what's crazy? I don't fuck with him because he lied on me. But the fact that I know him and I saw him getting whooped on by some foreigners, I'm probably going to go help him. But you know some niggas that you just hope, like, I hate this nigga. But I'm still going to go help. I might just help a random dude from L.A. That's what I was saying. Yeah, yeah. You're from L.A. Anyone from L.A. I am from that game. for this fight. Adam, what I'm doing? This nigga, why is this trying to make a nigga look fucked up? No, it's real. Hold on, hold on. He ran a play on you. Hold on. He ran a play.

2:09:04Oh, I was doing it in camera, though. What the fuck? No, after I help him, you know what I'm going to do? What are you doing? Look, after I, I'm going to tell you this. After I help him and he get up and say, good looking out, I ain't shaking his hand or nothing. Nigga, fuck you. I'm going to, I'm going to. Hey, look. That gives you style points. Hey, look. Hey, look. I like your style. Hey, look, this is where I'm at with this shit, bro. It's a whole lot of deep shit that ain't out there, bro, that's inside shit that we know. I know. It ain't that serious. No, I know that. But at the same time, at the same time, some shit, you just got to stand your ground on, bro.

2:09:40You feel me? Like you said, we can agree to disagree. We can agree to, hey, nigga, I'm one of them niggas that's, because Gumby, he ain't done nothing to me. That's why you got to reset. But at the same time, he's done a whole lot of shit that I don't condone it. I don't respect. Nigga, you from Hoover. It's a bunch of motherfuckers over there that hold out of shit. And I hold niggas to that. I hold niggas to the Bible. Bro, if anybody know me, they know, nigga, I'm not letting a nigga get away from it. You did some shit. And I go to that part and I holler up. And if anybody got a problem, nigga, that's what it is.

2:10:15That shit probably be crazy. Period, nigga, because on the day of homies, I went through my... Y 'all niggas do the podcast. I went through my controversy, bro. The Groove Show. You feel me? I went through my... The Groove Show. You and Gumby. When Gumby said he went through his struggles with the Hover. What's up? You with the Groove Show? You and Gumby? Mike, you need another podcast. Hold on, wait up. Are you with the Groove Show? You and Gumby? Pick another Hover. Huh? Pick another Hover. Like, I'm not, nigga. You know what? I'm going to work on you. I'm going to bother you every day now. You can work on me, but I'm not doing it, bro.

2:10:44And look, this is what? I think we're closer to peace now than we were at the beginning. And I think a lot of the anti-Gumby narratives have been debunked in this podcast. Hold on, look. And, hey, like I said, bro, my girl, she'll tell you, I am the most. You bullheaded, hardheaded. I am the most remorseful. That's what she said, yeah. I'm the most remorseful. You don't even know I see me in you. But I'm looking at me years ago, right? I remember me like you, nigga. I remember. Hey, look. And that's why we fuck with each other, right? But, look, this is what it is. When you violate, just like how these niggas are saying they standing on a code, which ain't our code on exiling a nigga from an EOPR.

2:11:23That's not our code, bro. That's the SA's code. Everybody got a motherfucker build some hotbeds. But when you got niggas politicking, like you went against the code, right? And these niggas went against the code they self. You feel me? There is no way that you bail a nigga out that toll on camera and then you niggas back it and say that's AI. You feel me? And then the nigga Then on top of that, the nigga was down. They said the camera footage was AI? On my mama. I don't know who said it. I know it came from over there. You got the camera footage? Y 'all got new names? Do we got the footage? I'm going to give it to the exposers, and we're going to pull the work.

2:12:05Do we got the footage of the nigga telling right now? All I need is a name, and we're going to pull the work. That's crazy. Pull the footage, bro. That AI shit is crazy. AI keeps getting better. so. No nigga, this is not no A.R. Pretty soon we're going to be able to see like snitching tapes that nobody will be able to debunk. Look, I'll pop on facts. Nigga, this shit on Gumby, alright nigga, if he wasn't on no gay shit, Wackman sat on the phone with me and we both done heard about some gay shit that this nigga done did. And this shit ain't coming from me. This is just, nigga, I'm going to put it out there.

2:12:36Just like how everybody on these podcasts, they all putting everything out. No, but we keep it real. Don't you think objectively, if somebody has a rumor, like their whole origin story starts with having to fight off somebody that was trying to S.A. them, people are going to always have, even if they never had anything. So when that happened to you, what did you do? I know what happened to me. I know what the fuck said. You think Gumby's on the S.A.? Yeah, he's a me too survivor. Just kidding. He a what? But if you have something like that, you see how easy the jokes fly? He'd have told me he don't give a fuck.

2:13:10But you see how quick the jokes come. Yeah, you know, I'm going to tell a nigga I don't give a fuck. Hey, look, this the thing, man. Hey, I'm grown. Some people I can get past shit with, but I can't get past a nigga that bailed out a snitch nigga that did something to my people, bro. There is no, you know, I mean, the only resolution is this. So where the dude at the toe? He sit on the street. Somewhere over there. He in the hood. Ain't nobody tripping. Ain't none of them over there tripping on him. Nobody, bro. But we're still holding him accountable for snitching on his gay abuser. I ain't seen no worse.

2:13:44I don't know. You know, I mean, it is what they want it to be. You feel me? They want that type of shit to go on. Is there any females involved in these situations back in the past when niggas was locked up? Niggas, anybody baby mamas get hit? Anybody? They don't know none of my baby mamas. I mean, my first baby mama, she was getting hit. She a little rat. She done ran through all the homies. She a little rat. You know who you are. You know who you is, bitch. Yeah, you know who you is. She was getting hit, bro. She was getting ran through. No. Oh. Was Sania involved in this or something? Damn.

2:14:22Oh, tell him. Shout out to the homegirl. We just played. Hold on, man. Sania, what are you talking about? How you just throw her down? It just sounded like this might have been. Hey, yo, why was Snoopy Badass called in that day and said how fat she was? She leaned forward the rest of that interview. that he made her feel insecure that's what you gotta do to your baby mama she leaned forward the whole interview she was way down here with it yeah fuck I'm bad about that fuck I'm bad about that and then you offered her$500 to get five people to borrow I think that's pretty good is Snoopy gonna be on the pod soon why am I hearing that Snoopy coming back to no jumper soon and it's like some bombs are dropping look nigga I'm trying to get the video right now but I'm trying to get the video right now but yeah The video of the dude telling Lamont I'm going to pull all the words It's record I'm going to get everything Fuck the video, it's going to be words of what he said Everything Come on I got to go So I'm going to have to be on Cliffhanger for the snitching vids Send it to West Coast Gang Wars Hey what Is it telling if the nigga pointed out a foul After a police interrogation to ask the police, is my name gonna come out on anything like that?

2:15:38And the police say what? And then the nigga repoint at the folder, and he like paperwork, and the police say, I don't know, you gotta tell me what you talking about, because you told me a lot of shit. Oh, yeah, you told. Exactly. That don't sound good. Exactly. That's the nigga, look, Gumby built that nigga out of jail. Where we come from, we ain't even negotiating that. Oh, my mama, bro, but that's what I say, bro. That's what I say. Niggas sit down, and niggas have conversations. They get niggas out of jail and they come up with a script On what they gonna run with And AI is a thing right now and then that's what they run with Oh that's AI, it's not AI Nigga this shit came from the boys Nigga this shit came from the transfers We gonna pull the work And listen I'm gonna let you know right now What's dead giveaway Any nigga with black air forces we watching you anyway Nigga Oh shit I wanna be here Oh shit These black air force wars Shout out to Hawk.

2:16:30Shout out Wax. Shout out Lush. I think you probably got some black sweats under them jeans. I won't even snitch on GTA 6, homie. Hey, shout out Gumby. We gonna shout Gumby out. We gonna bring them back together. Listen. We gonna shout Gumby out. I cleared you. Stop lying. Hey, look, bro. Hey, look. This the thing, Gumby. Hey, nigga. This the thing, bro. Hey, I'm gonna keep it all the way real, bro, because I'm really not no evil nigga, but if you take me there, I'm gonna be the worst picture you've ever seen, bro. Nigga, you ain't doing nothing to me, like you said. You ain't done nothing to me.

2:17:01You ain't done nothing to me, bro. I think he just jealous of his haircut. Nah, fuck. That nigga had a hero tied up. Nigga carved in his head. That shit said hero and cursive. But, uh. Gumby fly. Bro, look. That's jerk hair. You think Gumby flies? We can leave. Do you? Oh, yeah. So you was checking him out? Man, that's white boy fly. In a hummy way. Hey, look, bro. In a hummy way. Hey, look. But we can. Hey, nigga. We can leave this shit off the net, nigga. For real. We got got to. Whack them water, nigga. To leave it off the net. We can leave it off the net. You know why? Because your neighborhood, y 'all ain't been doing it.

2:17:33It's y 'all against the world. What happened to that mentality? You trying to rap. Gumby trying to rap. Milk trying to pod. Gumby trying to manage a label. Y 'all niggas need to figure it out. Actually, all three of y 'all make a hell of a show. The Groove Show, man. Hey, man, shit. I'm on a mission right now, nigga, to get the job. I'm on a million-dollar run right now, nigga. I'm trying to do it. You feel me? Get to that baggie up. But that's why I say, bro, you can't mix the streets when you're getting money, bro. So I understand that aspect. You feel me? So I'm not going to never let no street shit come in the way of a nigga making no bread.

2:18:08So is T-Rell from Hoover? No. Woo! Why do you say that? Why do you say that? Because he not. T-Rell not from Hoover. Is milk from Hoover? What's the X-Fact of? Milk from Hoover. Why is T-Rell not from there, though? Just because he never got put on? Yeah, T-Rell never got put on, bro. So in Gumby's age, you can read the comments on the podcast where people say, Back in they time, a lot of people wasn't getting put on. T-Rill not from that time. Nigga, T-Rill not from the set, period. If you ain't get put on, you're not from this, bro. Is it too late for him to get put on at 46? I mean, he can get put on at whatever age that they accept him.

2:18:40Oh, okay. I mean, go ahead. If you feel you can do it, try it. Big deal said he got some fades for his girl. Will y 'all make the people put them on like tie one arm behind their back? Yeah, they're only allowed to hit one side. T-Rill probably know how to fight. No. I don't know. I don't know. He might know how to fight. You know what I'm saying? If they putting T-Rail on, would they make the niggas putting them on top, one arm behind their back so it's even? I still don't think it's even. He's got one arm. The other arm, he can't swing, can he? No. T-Rail. Yeah, one arm can't swing. But it's like that whole side of his body is dead and rotting.

2:19:15But I think they would have D-Ped him for letting the 6-0 dude put his nuts on his neck. Oh, T-Rail next? Crazy. What? T-Rail? He let the 6-0 dude put his nuts on his neck. Like, literally. Yeah, he jumped up and wrestled him on the orange couch and put his nuts right here and said, I got you. A gay dude, too. A gay guy. Wow. Rich Trapper is on the bank. You should go check yourself in a rehab therapy, bro. Go pull up T-Rail, get wrestled, nuts put on his neck. He got the nuts on his neck. T-Rail, nigga, you need. Should he change his name from T-Rail to T-Bag at this point? I don't know. We're going to close on that though.

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