In short
The hosts debate No Jumper-related drama around 607 Unc, including claims that he was “hypnotized”/misrepresented in episode titles, and whether he’s really a victim. They also recap a trip to Toronto with rapper Top5, discuss street-culture slang (“road man”), and argue about health/food habits, plus a segment on “ab etching”/cosmetic surgery and Drake/Big Sean rumors. There’s also general commentary on ad metrics (“bull spend”) and sponsor reads.
Guest backgrounds
This transcript does not clearly name or introduce formal guests. The main speakers appear to be the No Jumper hosts/regulars (including references to “Munchie,” “Adam,” “Unk,” “4Xtra,” “Top5,” “607,” and “Chad GPT” as a joke “unofficial fifth host”). No guest bios are provided.
Key claims
- 607 Unc says he’s returning soon and that earlier coverage/titles made him look disrespectful; he claims the show put him into an alternate mental state (allegedly “hypnotized,” not literally).
- The Toronto trip felt safer because of heavy police presence while filming Top5.
- Top5 allegedly bragged about hitting a $3 million crypto “lick” and spending heavily in clubs.
- Cosmetic “ab etching” can create visible abs while the rest of the body remains higher-fat, potentially looking odd; the hosts speculate Drake/Big Sean may have had it.
- Health discussion: Irv Gotti’s decline is linked (by Chris Gotti) to juice sugar and diet cheating despite exercise/chef/trainer.
Notable examples
- Crucial Conflict “Hey” (1994) lyric “I got the munchies, I need soul food.”
- Top5 filming in a rival area; later, Top5’s prison stabbing news is discussed as possibly connected (not proven).
- Drake “manufactured abs” photo; Big Sean “did it worse” claim.
- Steak “well done” debate; Ruth’s Chris referenced.
- “Road man” explained as UK slang for inner-city street-tied youth.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSnack Talk and Munchies
0:00 to 0:27
The hosts discuss snacks and the cultural significance of munchies.
“Are your ad campaigns lighting up the dashboard?”
Snack Talk and Munchies
0:33 to 2:32
The hosts discuss snacks and the cultural significance of munchies.
“The new PayPal app is like that, but for your money.”
Drug Test Humor
2:32 to 3:38
A humorous exchange about drug testing and personal anecdotes.
“I just knew I was wearing a hard ass jacket.”
Discussing DW Flame's Impact
3:38 to 4:22
The hosts reflect on DW Flame's influence and the show's dynamics.
“People were upset, bro, because they didn't know.”
Relationships and Podcasting
4:22 to 5:59
A debate on the relationship between successful podcasting and TV appearances.
“I feel like the podcasting career is more resilient, especially in this day and age.”
Life in Canada: A Wild Experience
5:59 to 7:39
The host shares an intense experience of filming in Canada and its challenges.
Beefs and Filming in the Hood
7:39 to 9:34
Insight into filming in neighborhoods with gang affiliations and tensions.
Top 5's Lifestyle and Wealth
9:34 to 11:50
Discussion about a rapper's unexpected wealth and lifestyle choices.
“Sav 4X is another rapper that I just recently interviewed, and we sort of like went over to his neighborhood and ended up filming for a little while.”
Understanding Roadmen Culture
11:50 to 14:01
Exploring the concept of 'road men' in street culture and its implications.
“Because apparently, okay, in your life, you've known people who hit licks, right?”
Understanding UK Slang: Road Man
14:01 to 14:34
Learn what a 'road man' is and its implications in street culture.
“I want to get an official definition for y 'all.”
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Drake's Music and Recent Battles
14:34 to 16:58
Explore the discussion around Drake's recent music and perceptions of his popularity.
“but in UK slang, a road man is a term for a young man, usually from an inner city area who's deeply tied to street culture, often involved in petty crime, drug dealing, or just hanging out on road.”
The Controversy of Ab Surgery
16:58 to 20:55
Delve into the details and opinions surrounding ab etching and its implications.
“I feel like, though, it really doesn't matter at the end of the day.”
Health Insights from Chris Gotti
20:55 to 22:59
Discuss health lessons learned from Irv Gotti's lifestyle and the importance of dietary choices.
Cultural Perspectives on Food Choices
22:59 to 28:00
Examine cultural differences in food preferences, particularly regarding steak preparation.
“Different people go through this, so you can't just be like, oh, because this happened to Irv, this gonna happen to me, because it'd be different for different people, bro.”
Cultural Perspectives on Cooking Meat
28:00 to 29:40
Discussion about preferences for cooking meat and cultural implications.
“The only time I can remember liking it, I can remember 2011, I went to Catalina Island and I had a burger.”
Historical Contexts of Food Preferences
29:40 to 31:20
Exploration of historical influences on food preferences within cultures.
“now you're teaching your kids to ruin the steak.”
The Return of 607
31:20 to 33:42
Discussion on 607's return and his claims of victimhood regarding past controversies.
“Not literally hypnotized, but I mean, apparently he feels like we were able to put him into some sort of alternate mental state.”
The Complexities of Gang Culture
33:44 to 36:20
Analysis of how different regions perceive and react to gang affiliations.
“Do we think that 607-0 is the victim here?”
Debating Gang Disrespect
36:20 to 42:00
Discussion on how gang-related comments are viewed and their implications in different cities.
“All right, so let's bring it back to the 607-Hong thing because this is my main thing.”
Discussion on Unk's Reputation
42:00 to 43:20
The hosts analyze the implications of Unk's actions and reputation in the No Jumper scene.
“See, I feel bad that he now says it's so uncomfortable because I never felt like it was that intense.”
Confrontation and Pride
43:20 to 45:36
They discuss the confrontation between Unk and Forex, focusing on pride and ego in challenging situations.
“But didn't 4Xtra bring the dude that was sitting next to him?”
Content Creation Challenges
45:36 to 47:36
The conversation shifts to the challenges Unk faces in creating engaging content while avoiding gang-related conflicts.
Humor in Gang References
47:36 to 49:49
The hosts debate the appropriateness and humor behind gang references in Unk's content.
“It doesn't really affect him in any way.”
Perceptions of Unk's Behavior
49:49 to 52:49
They discuss the perception of Unk's behavior and the mixed reactions it garners from the audience.
“Yeah, he just happens to be the founder of Seinfeld.”
Future of Unk in Podcasting
52:49 to 56:00
The hosts speculate on Unk's future in podcasting and his desire to move away from gang-related content.
“This one of them situations, no, he was just passionate in the way he felt.”
Navigating Gang Politics in Content Creation
56:00 to 1:00:01
Explore the challenges of discussing gang culture without offending anyone.
“He doesn't want to feel like he's being politic'd on in every episode.”
The Fallout from Controversial Episodes
1:00:01 to 1:06:36
Dive into the aftermath of a controversial podcast episode and its implications.
“It's like, bro, I tell you guys when I'm not going to come.”
The Fallout from Controversial Episodes
1:06:38 to 1:08:28
Dive into the aftermath of a controversial podcast episode and its implications.
“It sounds like he probably got a relationship.”
Lil Brazy's Snack Incident: Tensions Rise
1:08:28 to 1:10:00
Uncover the story of Lil Brazy and a confrontation over dissing gang affiliations.
“Okay, so this is the other thing I really, really am dying to talk about.”
Gang Affiliations and Controversies
1:10:00 to 1:11:26
Discussion on the behavior and codes of various gangs in the speaker's city.
“Like even lush looks like he's about to jump out of his chair In my city 18th Street is the South side of my city.”
The Underage Rapper's Controversial Interview
1:11:26 to 1:13:12
Examining the implications of an underage rapper's offensive remarks about gangs.
“Shout out to what, Bracey, the little kid?”
Management and Miscommunication
1:13:12 to 1:14:46
Discussion about the rapper's management and the narrative surrounding their instructions.
“The fact that that narrative is going around.”
Real-Life Stories vs. Rap Persona
1:14:46 to 1:16:36
Contrast between the rapper's real-life experiences and the persona presented in interviews.
“There's like at least three or four different clips of him getting marked out.”
Perception of Gangs in Ogden
1:16:36 to 1:18:22
Discussion on the perceived gang affiliations and realities in Ogden, Utah.
“Basically, he just put on the character.”
The Ongoing Unk Situation
1:18:22 to 1:19:38
A look into the ongoing situation with a character named Unk and its repercussions.
“that he would say anything other than that.”
Debate on Responsibility and Platform
1:19:38 to 1:24:01
A conversation about the responsibility of media platforms in showcasing controversial figures.
“Yo, so are you tuned in at all to the Unk situation or anything that's been going on?”
Understanding Gang Disrespect
1:24:01 to 1:25:48
Explore the nuances of gang-related language and its implications.
“Hey, and for the record, Lil Brazy did issue a statement saying I mess with all my essays and Southsiders.”
The Importance of Early Artist Interviews
1:25:49 to 1:27:31
Discuss the significance of interviewing young artists before they peak.
“I interviewed Matt Ox when he was 13 in like 2017 I interviewed plenty of underage rappers over the years.”
Lil Brazy's Gang Affiliation and Challenges
1:27:32 to 1:29:29
Analyze Lil Brazy's current situation and the dangers he faces in gang culture.
“Low bottoms Low bottoms That's like the Peplos The Blessed On Villains Can I ask you a question?”
Critique of Lil Brazy's Actions
1:29:30 to 1:33:04
Critique the actions of Lil Brazy and the responsibilities of those around him.
“Ed been quiet like, this some good shit.”
OTR and Big Sad's Complicated Relationship
1:33:05 to 1:37:08
Delve into the relationships and tensions between artists in the OTR scene.
“They sent a white boy before a black rapper.”
OTR and Big Sad's Complicated Relationship
1:37:09 to 1:38:01
Delve into the relationships and tensions between artists in the OTR scene.
“Okay, so the speculation that people were making, and this is a speculation that a lot of people had, was that it was Lefty and Chittoranas.”
Big Sad and OTR Controversy
1:38:08 to 1:40:00
Discussion about Big Sad's issues with OTR and possible reasons behind them.
“He's talking about one thing and then your story is kind of like after that timeline was.”
Reaction to Recent Tensions
1:40:00 to 1:41:58
Analyzing various texts and messages related to the ongoing conflicts in the scene.
“And I'm not even shooting down what you said.”
Lefty Gunplay's Image and Allegations
1:41:58 to 1:44:49
Exploring Lefty Gunplay's recent changes and surrounding allegations.
“Yeah, it implies cowardice like a motherfucker.”
No Jumper and OTR Dynamics
1:44:49 to 1:46:44
Delving into the relationship between No Jumper and OTR, including past interviews.
“That's like synonymous with a promotion and no junker.”
The Impact of Public Perception
1:46:44 to 1:49:05
Discussion about how public perception influences artists and their actions.
“And I made multiple attempts at patching it up.”
Lefty Gunplay's Recent Struggles
1:49:05 to 1:51:14
Analyzing Lefty Gunplay's recent public struggles and video footage.
“And that's not saying he's being disingenuous.”
Further Discussion on Lefty Gunplay
1:51:14 to 1:52:00
Continuing the discussion on Lefty Gunplay's situation and its implications.
“Because he's, you can tell, like, honestly, it's kind of hard to hear it right here.”
Lefty Gunplay's Struggles and Authenticity
1:52:00 to 1:54:36
Discussion revolves around Lefty Gunplay's current situation and the authenticity of his struggles.
“I mean, I got enough to probably get you to the gas station.”
Max B Narrative and Media Response
1:54:36 to 1:56:48
Exploration of the narrative surrounding Max B and why it hasn't gained traction in the media.
“I mean, the funny part is that in that video, he's wearing a Louis Vuitton shirt.”
The Consequences of Snitching
1:56:48 to 1:58:15
Analyzing the implications of snitching and why it often leads to negative outcomes.
“Motherfuckers is still locked up forever.”
Police Accountability vs. Snitching
1:58:15 to 1:59:59
Debate on the complexities of police accountability and the ethics surrounding snitching.
“As soon as you say that, here's a whack.”
Police Accountability vs. Snitching
2:00:00 to 2:03:55
Debate on the complexities of police accountability and the ethics surrounding snitching.
“And he just basically telling like, no, this will happen.”
Podcast Misadventures and Jiu-Jitsu
2:03:58 to 2:06:00
Lighthearted discussion about an unexpected incident involving jiu-jitsu during a podcast session.
“Okay, let's get a little bit of comic relief going right now.”
Rich Trapper and Jiu-Jitsu Moves
2:06:00 to 2:07:28
A discussion about Rich Trapper's eagerness to show off his jiu-jitsu skills and a potential podcast collaboration.
“It seems like they kind of already had agreed to do it.”
The Dynamics of Rival Hoods
2:07:28 to 2:09:57
An exploration of the dynamics and relationships between different hoods and gang affiliations.
“I took that out I mean I know I granted.”
Understanding Norteño and Sureño Culture
2:09:57 to 2:12:33
A deep dive into the cultural aspects of Norteño and Sureño identities, including language and fashion.
“The manager guy told me afterwards that the guy that was on camera with him was a Norteno, which I'm not going to lie.”
Tommy Guns and Viral Content
2:12:33 to 2:15:06
Discussion surrounding Tommy Guns, his viral content, and the emergence of new figures in the scene.
“I swear to God, bro, I didn't know what it was.”
YouTube Earnings and Industry Realities
2:15:06 to 2:19:58
An analysis of YouTube earnings and the financial realities faced by content creators.
“He's like the most viral in Norteno right now.”
Podcasting Costs and Celebrity Net Worth
2:20:03 to 2:20:51
Discussion on the financial aspects of podcasting and inaccuracies in celebrity net worth estimates.
“that they film out of, having an employee that helps them shoot and film the content and everything, from my estimation, that basically means they're podcasting for free.”
Sponsorships and Revenue Streams
2:20:52 to 2:21:48
Exploration of potential revenue streams for podcasters and endorsement deals.
“They said I was worth over a million, I'm like, y 'all tripping.”
Snoop Dogg's Comments on Freestyle
2:21:49 to 2:22:39
Responding to Snoop Dogg's critique of a rap performance and discussing the nature of freestyling.
“Wasn't Stizzy sponsoring them at one point?”
The Cipher Collaboration
2:22:40 to 2:23:55
Discussion about an upcoming rap cipher and the dynamics between participants.
“Lush, like in terms of his words that he puts together, he is top tier from my perspective.”
Impact of Snoop's Comments
2:23:56 to 2:25:21
Analyzing the effects of Snoop Dogg's comments on a viral rap clip and its implications.
“I don't want to be on a song with someone who's doing that.”
Freestyling Skills and Critique
2:25:22 to 2:26:24
Discussion on freestyling skills, lyricism, and the challenges of live performances.
Rap Performance and Reactions
2:26:25 to 2:28:19
Sharing reactions to a recent rap performance and discussing its reception.
“Wait, did you already just do the thing where you went?”
Creative Direction in Music Videos
2:28:20 to 2:30:14
Ideas and concepts for an upcoming music video involving dramatic visuals.
“Is because like, it didn't fit the beat, the flow, so I had to create a little bit of space right there.”
Throwing Shade and Beef in the Industry
2:30:15 to 2:30:38
Lighthearted discussion on interpersonal conflicts and rivalries in the music scene.
Throwing Shade and Beef in the Industry
2:30:50 to 2:31:16
Lighthearted discussion on interpersonal conflicts and rivalries in the music scene.
“And marketers are calling it out in Dashboard Confessions.”
Community Discussions and Opinions
2:31:19 to 2:34:01
Conversations about community reactions, social media perceptions, and personal opinions on various topics.
“Did fools use the word Gerbert out there when you were in Canada?”
Conflict and Respect in the Hip-Hop Community
2:34:01 to 2:35:29
Discussion around respect and rivalries in the hip-hop scene.
“Yeah, oh yeah, some dudes just pulled up on me today.”
The Culture Vulture Debate
2:35:30 to 2:37:09
Exploration of the term 'culture vulture' and its implications in hip-hop.
“Why motherfuckers keep on coming with this narrative about sellout and culture vulture?”
Perceptions of Change in Content Creation
2:37:10 to 2:38:20
Conversation about how content has evolved and misconceptions about intentions.
“Like, and that's the thing that's super confusing to me.”
The Badge Controversy: Speculation and Implications
2:38:21 to 2:40:40
Discussion of a controversial video involving Wack and allegations of snitching.
“Man, I just started doing content last year, like late July.”
Challenging Perspectives in Podcasting
2:40:41 to 2:44:49
Debate over the effectiveness of various podcasting personalities and their dynamics.
“The option is it could be like a fake edited image.”
Race and History in Podcast Discussions
2:44:50 to 2:48:00
Discussion on how race and history impact podcast dialogues and audience reception.
Discussion on Viral Content and Personal Opinions
2:48:00 to 2:51:48
Explore opinions on viral content, personal biases in music reviews, and public perceptions of artists.
“Well, those are his favorite things to discuss.”
Gang Culture and Podcasting Dynamics
2:51:48 to 2:57:06
Analyze the relevance of gang culture in podcasting and the consequences of discussing past experiences.
“Unless you're going to have to use that mouse.”
Listener Engagement and Community Interaction
2:57:06 to 3:01:48
Dive into listener comments and their implications on show dynamics and guest appearances.
“Black spreading fake narratives every week.”
YouTube Channel Promotion
3:02:01 to 3:02:17
Learn about the host's YouTube channel and its content.
Transcript
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1:34Well, circa 1994 on the song Hey by Crucial Conflict, bro, says I got the munchies, I need soul food. Oh, it's a Harry Styles song. Watermelon sugar. How old are you, bro? I'm 43. Okay, you a real hip-hop man, you be digging deep. Yeah, yeah, I was like 14 at the time, but I was outside when that song came out. If we were to drug test you right now, what would it say? What do you think it would Is he going to do the test correctly? Yeah. Bend over. I'm going to put this Q-tip in your ass. Whoa. No time called quest.
2:10At first I was like, what?
2:14I'm always trying to figure out what kind of physiology you got going on. If you had to just take a stab in the dark. Well, no buzzball in hand, so I'm assuming it was probably something in a pill form. No, no, no. Are you King Pill? there's buzz balls on deck okay buzzy's on deck player are you trying to get a what you call that sponsorship i think i think it's in their best interest yeah if i was in i'll tap in very few alcohol sponsorships going on out there let's be real yeah i don't really know like how that would affect the dynamics like yeah that's crazy you took that jacket from dw flame did i that's like his brand.
2:53Is this, oh, it's a flip. I knew it was hard for her. Gala. I knew it was hard for her. Gala. You didn't know you was wearing a seat? I just knew I was wearing a hard ass jacket. I think you took it from me. Did I? Yeah. I took it from you? Pause. But I think, uh, unwillingly. I've had a lot of that brand in my office for quite some time. Cause they were giving me stuff for a while. I feel like when we hired DW flame, I never got another package. Not that we fired him, but when we stopped potting with him, he said you didn't call him, man. Me? Yeah. He said you didn't give him a car. That's true.
3:24Yeah. He found out on a pod. All the shows got canceled at once. The news was canceled. It was a wild time over here. Let me tell you. That's like, yeah, I can't say. Like, luckily, I was still on the No Jumper show, so I didn't really feel it. I was like, well, like the people that was like crying like bras, though, whining and shit. You know what I'm saying? People were upset, bro, because they didn't know. Imagine just finding out via. I mean, it's probably not the. But even so, like I said, if you rapping and you podcasting at the time, then your career is kind of on a decline because DW should have been the number one not trippy.
3:59You know what I'm saying? He's already been on TV shows, though. I already think of DW as not just a rapper. You feel me? He's been on Wild It Out for years. Okay, but who the fuck cares about being on a TV show? Let's be real. No, but I'm saying as far as that affecting people, because I think what Munchie's trying to say is— Would you rather build a successful podcasting career or like have a spot on a show? You know, like I'm going to be honest. I feel like the podcasting career is more resilient, especially in this day and age. Granted, while now, like one of the most long running TV shows ever.
4:32But it's not like he was on it for that long. No shots. I'm just saying it's not like one of the main people. Yeah. They switch characters out all the time. But that white girl, correct? Justina Valentine. Oh, yeah. She's good. She wants to take it seriously. Yeah. Should I call him Daddy Flame? I think that's a good one there's another guy that's been on this pod that referred to him in such a manner Jala our gay friend I shouldn't call him gay because he might be like he might challenge me to a fade in the parking lot or a future lawsuit potentially yeah it's a discrimination case nah definitely I would like to quick shout out to everything 420 they are like the Amazon of smoking gear they've got it all Vapes, grinders, edibles, flour, even shrooms.
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Use code NOJUMPER for extra savings. anyway i would like to tell you guys of all the hood vlogs i'll probably ever do in my entire life i feel like canada was the most uh high probability that something violent could have happened it was it felt like that so first off i go to top five's neighborhood he doesn't want to meet up to like six or seven which is already kind of like ruining my normal body clock because i'm used to doing things at like nine in the morning but we're on a different time zone anyway so it's like six out there's like three out here but either way we go out to his neighborhood it's him and maybe like 30 other toronto mandem road men road men if you will and oh man that's what they say their version really in the uk more but like their version of like a hood dude they say the mandem okay like man and them the mans and them this is really mandem i don't even know if i'm explaining it correctly but that's pretty accurate yeah like this dude like street road touch road they'll be like oh it's ganging this bitch ganging them they're like mandem yeah i don't i don't want to be the one explaining this but either way i was pretty accurate so we go to his neighborhood you know i'm used to like trying to create some sense of sense of decorum doing these vlogs like i'm not going to say who but a couple of different trips that we've been on in recent memory we'll pull up to somebody's neighborhood all of a sudden they're just trashing their ops talking bad about other people that they beef with on social media or in real life and we've kind of made some tactical decisions to be like okay we're not going to put that in the video because it's going to look weird if we're going to this guy's neighborhood and he's talking about this guy and then we go link up with this guy and he's talking about this guy wouldn't that get hella views if we if we did uh yeah but then you're messing our relationships it's just a little awkward you know what i'm saying like you know you just don't want to look like oh i came from out of state i went to this guy's neighborhood he's talking bad about these people and then we're going to go to those people's neighborhood as well like the the colonizer interloper who's causing violence narrative 63rd i wouldn't mess with you you know i mean but i think that they would and they do because when we go to oblock we're not asking them a bunch of questions about the gds you know which if we did then it's way more like we're like taking a side or whatever i just consider that to be a little bit like immature for us either way as soon as i meet up with top five i realize that's not a possibility he's trashing his ops from the moment that we get there there's like there's just no way that we're gonna edit it all out so most of us is probably gonna make it into the video or whatever but he's going off about all kinds of deads that he's smoking he doesn't smoke but he's trashing people left and right and this is something i've never really seen happen before doing one of these videos is like so his his hood the section we're in is like got like a bunch of little cul-de-sacs with buildings surrounding them or whatever and there's like a main road not like a big road but it's like a main road and there's cops whizzing past on that main road over and over and over and there's obvious undercover cops driving through the cul-de-sac like while we're filming like trying not to like look at us try not to appear as if they're paying attention to us but are blatantly there to like monitor the situation you got like 30 deep so and so in that situation it actually made me feel quite a bit safer because i'm like you'd have to be absolutely insane to want to do anything here because there's cops like everywhere yeah you know so we finished filming that and then he tells me that he's about to go to press his neighborhood to film a music video now for those who know top five and presser used to be really close they fell out now he's apparently got this huge beef with them he's talking all kinds of shit about presser and his crew or whatever the driftwood crips if you will and that's the yeah they got crips in toronto yes oh so he beefed with the driftwood he beefed with the driftwood crips but they used to be close but it's not like a long standing thing so driftwood crips they neighborhood is presser area yes and so this is kind of awkward too because it's like you know the last thing i want to do i have a cool relationship with press i've known presser for like six years whatever i don't want to go to his fucking neighborhood and while you're filming a disc video that's like the last thing i want to do but then also like i just took an uber like 45 minutes to get here and you're about to go film this thing down the street so i'm kind of like well it's gonna be kind of weird if i don't go so i'm kind of thinking about what i should do or whatever and we end up kind of realizing that it it would be easier and smoother to go film.
10:17Sav 4X is another rapper that I just recently interviewed, and we sort of like went over to his neighborhood and ended up filming for a little while. But anyway, so clips come out on social media of Top 5 filming a video in these dudes' neighborhood. While this is going on, Top 5's homie gets stabbed up crazy in prison. Damn. Which is like, you know, I guess I can't say, you know, definitively. Hello, NFA. I can't really say like definitively that that happened because of what top five was doing at that exact moment. But if you were to ask Toronto ology, which of course exists, that is 100 % what they saw was going on, et cetera.
10:57And like, you know, even when we're in the club and shit, like I'm not gonna lie. There was a element of anything could go down. There's clubbing. No, the clubbing was super chill. Cause I, apparently the clubs are kind of, you know, it's like, there's clubs that are cool with one side and clubs are cool though so i get the idea that like top five of them are like more accepted on a mainstream type of level like they're more like tapped in but more so the high-end clubs well because they're super tapped in with drake and shit so it's like i feel like their side maybe has like because they beef with everybody they go a million different ops that they're talking about whatever but i'm getting the idea that they basically like have a lot of connections and stuff and everything like that and i mean honestly it It was a great trip.
11:41It went super smoothly, saved a ton of money on Ubers because Top 5 was just sending me fucking like a driver like every single day. It's just like all of a sudden there's just a guy waiting outside our spot to take us wherever. Because apparently, okay, in your life, you've known people who hit licks, right? You know, somebody, all of a sudden, somebody from your hood came up on 20K, 50K, whatever. Like even 50K, like, whoa, that's a lot. Top 5 apparently hit a$3 million crypto lick. And let me just say, he's living like he hit a$3 million crypto lick. I would estimate he probably spent at least$10 ,000 in the club that night.
12:18He's openly talking about this? He's talking about it like it's not even illegal. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck he's thinking. He's like 26 or something. That's why. Yeah. Why people always blame it on the age? I wasn't that. It's a mentality, bro. It's just a mentality. People be laced up also, though. You watch people do what you're doing before you. I wasn't doing that at 15. So that's what I'm saying. When people always come out and be like, oh, how old is he? Oh, he was 14. Oh, yes, his age. It's really like your mentality, like the things you've been through and how you like your viewpoint on things.
12:52Okay, on top of that. But you're talking about a gay member who spent all this time in prison and shit. So in his mind, I feel like he's thinking, I might not be here for very long. He's facing murders that he beat. So in his head, he's probably thinking like, who knows how long I'm going to be here. I might as well spend this money, right? But did you sense a little ADHD with him? Oh, no, man. I mean, yeah. He retarded for sure. I think he would be someone who, he would have a hard time probably working a desk job, like many of us. But, you know, yeah. I don't know if he has the temperament to work at the call center.
13:25He's not sitting for two hours. Like, nah. So that'll just mean ADHD. Like, he can't be still. Like, he gotta just be up on the go moving around. And even like he's staying up super late. He's like, before we do this interview, the next day after the club, he's like, I'm going to take a two-hour nap, and I'm going to meet you to do this. And he don't do no drugs. You don't smoke, you don't drink, nothing. And he's still got that kind of energy going all the time. It was kind of crazy. He needs all energy. It's a manic episode. He's in the throes of a manic episode. Yeah. So he do game bang? Yeah.
14:00You know, it's Toronto. He beat the Cribs. He a blood? I don't think he's a blood. He's a road man. He's a road man. What the hell is that? I want to get an official definition for y 'all. What a road man. He's a road man, bro. I don't feel like I'm a... He sound like he in Jamaica somewhere. Like, man, I'm a bad man. Like, just like, what? Top 5 will come for you, bro. We have the primer coming for me. Top 5 will come for you. All right, so Chad GPT is the unofficial fifth host of this podcast, but in UK slang, a road man is a term for a young man, usually from an inner city area who's deeply tied to street culture, often involved in petty crime, drug dealing, or just hanging out on road.
14:44It's similar to saying someone's a hood guy, corner boy, or trapper. I haven't really heard corner boy a lot in my life, but, you know, it's basically like if you're a gangbanger, in their world, you're a, No, but it doesn't imply that you're, like, not on some street shit. It just means, you know, but you're probably not, like, a fucking assassin. You're probably not, like, King Vaughn was a road man. Yeah, just like King Vaughn was against it. King Vaughn was a killer. But that's what I'm saying. The road man could be the real killer, too. It doesn't preclude that. It just means a street guy.
15:18It's a bad guy. No, no, he's a bad guy. He's a good fella. Yeah, exactly. It's probably more likely, though, to be someone who's doing more low-level crimes. you know you're selling drugs or whatever murder ain't murder ain't murder hey yeah I just be saying go up for Drake but shit like shit I ain't got no dog in the fight nah he hopping out the window for Drake I ain't met Drake or Kendrick shit I still knock Drake I don't lie bro for real man I used to knock Drake but since that battle it's like he fell off like you can hear Drake on every radio like before then like I used to fuck with Drake heavy, but I don't even lie.
15:57It's like that kind of battle. You feel like he fell off music? You don't hear his music no more. Usually you hear Drake. I feel like that's a California thing right there, though. I feel like in the rest of the country, you're still hearing almost exactly as much Drake. He dropped the song, that massive, massive. Yeah, he had a number one hit, Nokia or whatever. No, for sure. And I fuck with him. And I'm not like, like I said, I ain't got a dog in the fight, but I ain't going to lie. It do kind of seem like the stock kind of dipped a little bit, just like the little battle. I feel like we got to wait until he dropped.
16:30Wait until he dropped. I think that's going to be the real test. When he actually dropped it. One thing about it, if he dropped it, and he got that authentic Drake heart shit, I'm going to bang it. Like I said, I'm just saying. Just for me, the viewpoint from the battle standpoint, everything since then, it was like you could tell that he kind of took a fall. He suffered aura HP. He don't need to throw another diss song. Just make music. Because K-Dog just knocked him out in the fourth ring. What round was that? Whatever round. He knocked him out. A couple rounds. I feel like, though, it really doesn't matter at the end of the day.
17:06People are still going to slap Drake. I'm going to slap Drake. For sure. I mean, it's a rap battle. It's a rap battle, bro. He just got new abs. You feel me? New abs. We got to talk about that. That picture he just took somebody. So he got some manufactured abs. They say an eye implant. okay let me explain this to the people out there i don't i have pure my abs have been implanted with gelatinous cellulite no let me explain this to people out there and there's a couple of different only fans baddies over the years that i've seen get this surgery drake is honestly one of the first dudes that i've seen get it besides bam man kevo he's another one it's not ab implants it's ab etching so basically they go into your stomach they suck out a bunch of fat the fat that is still there they sort of carve it out you know they carve it so that it kind of looks like you have visible abdominal definition but then it kind of creates like a weird situation because like in that photo that drake posted which everybody's freaking out about and it's not like it's not the most easy to see photo you know it's like taken from a distance there's all these bottles of liquor in front of them it's in a mirror but you could kind of tell he was doing that was a You can tell that Drake doesn't have a huge amount of muscle in his arms and stuff.
18:25The definition in his arms and shoulders is not that crazy, but then it's like a lot in his stomach. And the weird thing about it is I'm pretty sure that if he were to gain 40 pounds, that he would still have abs, and then it would really look fucked. And did you see that picture that people posted of Big Sean? Nah. Oh, Big Sean did whatever Drake did, Big Sean did it worse. Yeah. Damn, bro. Nah. I feel like at some point Drake might end up having something done to sort of like fix this so it's like absculpting I didn't know that this was going to serve me up like a weird video of Big Sean these don't look that bad but some of these photos look kind of strange I don't know who posted this shit but their page is in question yo but this is actually the surgeon who apparently did it yeah but look at people calling him out in the comments a six pack with no muscles in the arms or chest is crazy lol Big Sean or Jack right now right now we're talking about Big Sean but yeah I mean it's a surgery that a lot of people have kind of like messed with and my personal opinion is that it's probably not a great idea if I had the money I'd do it I got an ET body I've been curse with it my entire life you're gonna look worse because you don't you don't like because think about the whole your whole body is going to be the regular fat percentage that you are and then your abs are going to be whatever it's just going to make your abs look like that of a person with eight percent body fat and then the rest of your body is a person with 20 percent body fat you can't there's not like a happy medium you can't like get like a half carving i think there probably is it's just that that technology is sort of new comparatively so the doctors maybe are doing a little bit too much.
20:13It's not even that serious. Definitely for like dudes, both dudes, like they size, they weren't even big dudes. They could have like really for real just did like a little CrossFit good workout routine and got that. Yeah. No, I'm with you. Yeah. I feel like that. I feel like probably Big Sean and Drake are both thinking. Yeah. Maybe I should have just spent more time in the gym. If there's a way to do that, but make you stronger as well. Yeah, it's called testosterone. Yeah. Oh, there you go. Yeah. But I mean, when you're on testosterone, you're not necessarily going to just like shred fat either so i don't know i mean i don't want to like judge what anybody does to try to look better but i do think that this is a surgery that if somebody suggests that you get it that's for women definitely think twice yeah but i'm telling you like i've seen girls with it who are like kind of thicker and then you can still see their abs and it's weird and i would show you guys right now but these are people i fuck with and i don't want to throw them under the bus or whatever but there's pussy for you yeah yeah yeah it's a whole point thing you can't be out here just sort of critiquing girls bodies it's a bad look yeah that's correct no but then the thing on top of that too when you get them type of surgeries because i know a few people that's like got them type of surgeries like that should really be like having like health complications if you ain't eating properly and like like maintaining that shit you really got to like maintain that shit and do certain shit after you get that surgery or your ass gonna be doubling over in somebody ER room hollering bro I just interviewed uh Chris Gotti who's Irv Gotti's brother and he I was asking him about like what led to Irv uh you know his health declining and him passing away back in February and from the sounds of it he was living a pretty healthy lifestyle he was he had a chef so he's eating healthy all the time he had a trainer so he's working out on a consistent basis but really like his problem was I guess that he would drink a lot of uh juice throughout the day you drink orange juice and apple juice which does have a ton of sugar and then i guess he would just still cheat on the diet he would go out to eat and he would have you know a ton of chinese food or whatever and that was like really like yesterday i was watching this vlog that we did in texas we're in this gas station and i'm talking to one of the rapper's homies he's got four big ass bags of like sour patch kids and all this crazy candy and i'm just like you know just thinking about it like bro we gotta like spread the word to the young people that you can't afford to wait till you're 50 to start paying attention to your health like that shit god he's super unhealthy but that's what i'm saying he worked out he had a chef like so you you would think that like cheating on your diet here and there and then like drinking some juice wouldn't be the biggest deal but that's what he did like i'm i know right that's what i'm saying honestly that crossed my mind while we're having that conversation is like well what about lush yeah if that's the only different for different people though different people body experience different.
22:59Different people go through this, so you can't just be like, oh, because this happened to Irv, this gonna happen to me, because it'd be different for different people, bro. Yeah. No, totally. I don't eat vegetables, right? But what's good for me, not good for you. You know you're supposed to eat according to your blood type. So, you ain't supposed to eat all that? I don't eat this shit. You don't eat any vegetables whatsoever? What if I gave you a bowl of vegetables and you were pretty hungry? What kind of it? Broccoli, carrots, No, no, pause. No, no, for extra. I don't know. Mushrooms, broccoli, mushrooms.
23:35Shout out 420. I was just kidding. Just kidding. You eat mushrooms, spinach, collard greens. Mushrooms on a piece. I eat mushrooms on a piece. What is tomatoes? Tomatoes are vegetables. Yes. Technically a fruit. Yeah, but typically people don't. It's a fruit. No, no, no. It is a fruit, but we categorize it as a vegetable. Anything that comes from the ground is a vegetable. No, I'm pretty sure. I think so. Because the fruits have to grow above ground, right? What about vines? Like grape vines, they grow from the ground, bruh. That's a good point. What the fuck? Don't make me chat GPT. What is a road man and then what is a vegetable?
24:10I'm pretty sure tomato is a damn fruit regardless, but still we categorize it with a vegetable because it's stuff we eat in a salad like normally. You know what? I ate some muskata for the first time. Pussy? Nah, I've been mastered that. Oh, no. That was like 2013 I'm going to come back to it Start with a C So many jokes I can make right now I'm not going to do it Cucumbers I ate a steak 48 I'll come back to it Kale It's not technically a C It's a seafood Are you about to make a crib joke Nah hell no Come on, bro. I got my keyword right here. I wouldn't even do it anyway, like on the internet.
24:59You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to think. Not calamari. I got so many clips. Munchie B. I ain't let Munchie B say he's supposed to fire it on Munchie B. Yeah, they ain't waiting on it. Do you really want to use it? No, not Facebook. It's C4. Oh, oh. Cod? Expensable type shit. And it's not calamari. No, not calamari. Caviar. Caviar. Yeah, hell yeah. That's fish eggs. Why I was about to say that, look, I went to Tau, right? I went to Tau the other day, right? I love the way you just said that. Tau. Look, I go there, and I order some, like, I order, like, a California, like, lobster, like, it was, like, some lobster rolls and something else, and it came with these little things on top.
25:45So when I'm looking at the little shit on top, I'm like, man, what's that? Like fish eggs? Yeah, so my people are like, man, they're like, man, that's caviar. That's caviar. I'm like, caviar? You're like, yeah, man. You're like, I made it. I'm like, yeah, I'm good. I mean, that's like the stereotypical rich guy food. Man, hell no, bro. I couldn't do it. Was it the little orange eggs? It was like some little purple eggs. They got different types of caviar. That's like the Luga caviar. That's like the nice one. Yeah. You in town for sure. That was caviar for sure. No, I was at steak, steak 48. But I like anything.
26:20I like all seafood. but there ain't no seafood all in white but for some reason you eat some vegetables it's not good to not eat vegetables crawfish all that shit I can't do would you ever want to eat fish when you could eat steak someone said that to me one time why get fish when you can get steak every time I order I look at the menu I think about fish and I'm like you know what I'm going steak If I can get me some good, like, lobster, like, man, like, some good crab, like, some good oyster, I'm going to pick that over steak all the time. I ain't got time to be trying to, like, floss, dig out through my teeth with the steak unless you just about to eat some filet mignon.
27:03Like, other than that, I got to take the seafood over the steak. See, you've been having money for a long time, Adam. So, no, no, no. No, listen. They say this is why I go seafood over the steak, right? because I heard for years that it's disrespectful to order your steak well done to the chef. It is. Donald Trump does that. And I stay doing that. And I admit Donald Trump the same side. They be mad at me in the restaurants when I go out. I be like well done all the time. It still won't be well done. You'll do whatever you want to do with my steak. Y 'all see what's going on here, right? This is a clear cultural racial divide.
27:45Because we get our steak rare and they get their steak well done? You think this is an isolated incident? No, that is the stereotype, right? I'm already in blood. I don't need it in my steak, bro. I'd be impressed when one of my black homies likes a steak medium. I'm like, oh, good for you. The only time I can remember liking it, I can remember 2011, I went to Catalina Island and I had a burger. It wasn't a restaurant. I think that's the only burger. I didn't have it. Somebody ordered it for me and it was still kind of juicy. It was good, but if I'm like on my plate and I'm cutting and I'm seeing like the blood and juices coming out, that's going to make me want the food.
28:23So that's why I'll be wanting my shit well done. Because if I'm seeing it like that, and sometimes you can see like, you know, that's the color of blood. You like, damn, that's the blood with the juices. The hell, y 'all. Clear cultural divide. Hey, listen to this though. You guys like hockey pucks. You guys eat hockey pucks. We know the fucking truth. Hey, Chad GPT says that y 'all are probably suffering from historical trauma around undercooked meat. So. that's the first time I heard that thing I don't know yeah I don't know about this but in the Jim Crow era and earlier black folks often got the worst cuts of meat or food that wasn't handled as carefully in segregated establishments I'm going to be honest with you I'm very suspicious of that cultural norms passed down though I could see that they're like maybe your parents ate their steaks well done so you just thought it was normally steaks like that
29:12and there's also just the perception that raw food is bad for you, which I feel like I do hear black people say that. I'd be lying to you if I know how my mama and father eat their steak. I can't even remember. I just know how I like bars. Bars got to be like that, like for real, for real. But some people do pick up off their parents because like my daughter, she be watching me and she and she'd see me be like, well done. So now when she'd be with her mama, she'd be like, shit, well done. She'd be like, yeah, you got that from your dad. So you were just like ruining the steak and now you're teaching your kids to ruin the steak.
29:42I think it's good. You guys are tripping. Why is it disrespectful to the chef, though? I mean, like, it's from a culinary perspective, and I'm not a fucking chef. Yeah, but they think that's, like, the wrong way to eat it. Yeah, because it's, like, essentially, like, all the little flavors and nuances that you're going to get from it being undercooked or cooked properly, quote-unquote, are going to be lost. if it's just hurt. Man, I think that's how you know that's who a good chef, when you can cook it like that, when you can cook it well done, and that thing still be like, oh, this is like that, because I'll be eating some good steaks that will be well done.
30:18I'll be like, when I go to, what was my favorite steak spot, man? Mastro's. No. We all got the same one. No, I like, what's the other one? The original one. Ruth Chris. Ruth Chris. Ruth Chris. Yeah, there you go. Or Flemish. Ruth Chris. That's my spot, Ruth. Ruth Chris. I go to all of them. I ate at all of them, but I like Ruth Chris. I like how they cater. I'll be fucking with the marina. It's good. That's the one I go to, man. In the marina. I used to live right down the street. Got evicted. Right out the marina. It was loud over there. It's quiet over there. There's this thing you got to do at an apartment.
31:00It's called pay rent. You feel me? like i'm lost historically had a hard time with that well this is like a cocaine and masseuse era like you feel me like you crazy cheating on my wife era like it was wild i want the freedom to drug test you whenever i feel like it yeah you think like you guys do worse shit than that drug test me what do we do that's worse than that or more invasive than that i mean not to me per se but i've dealt i feel like just uh working here and uh well uh well no no no not here let me explain this properly you gotta clear that up yeah let me explain this properly um in the manner in which i did i opened myself up pause no diddy yeah yeah being very transparent you feel me like being very transparent so that that when you do that like yeah it can be endearing to fans but you're also opening yourself up to a lot of scrutiny potentially and motherfuckers you shit against so okay here's here's the the question of the day so i think last week when we did this episode or the show i think that we were still assuming that uh 607 was like coming right back i think that was the feeling at the time and really i i honestly haven't really watched any of it but i've gotten the idea from the titles on youtube that he's basically been on a campaign presenting himself as if he's the victim and that he's been treated unfairly he was set up with four extra that uh we hypnotized him and made him diss the bloods he's upset because he feels like our youtube titles are misrepresenting him and making him seem as if he was disrespectful to gangs in a way that he feels like he wasn't.
32:47See, that's that bullshit. Hypnotized him. Not literally hypnotized, but I mean, apparently he feels like we were able to put him into some sort of alternate mental state. Now, I do have an update for the people out there, which is that allegedly, according to him, and this is a person who seems like they do have a tricky relationship with the truth sometimes, but this person, 607 on claims that he is coming back and will be filming content within the next few days. So. Blowing ad budget on metrics that look great till the CFO sees them. That's bull spend. And marketers are calling it out in Dashboard Confessions.
33:25I remember telling my boss, it'll be good for the brand when leads were slow. Yeah, it wasn't. Cut the bull spend. LinkedIn lets you target by company, job title, and more. Advertise on LinkedIn. Spend$250 on your first campaign and get a$250 credit. Go to LinkedIn.com slash campaign. Terms and conditions apply. What do we think? Do we think that 607-0 is the victim here? I have seen like a fair amount of people in the Reddit and stuff who seem sympathetic to this argument. Man, somebody went in. I didn't know who he was, but he ended up hitting me in my DMs. Y 'all probably know him more than me because I'm kind of new to the internet space.
34:04The big dude out of Texas that was like... FDA. FDA was like... He went in on copyright. Don't commit. He went in on Rick Rock, too? Yes, he was talking hella shit to Rick Rock. I only seen, actually, I only seen, like, all the, I watched, like, dinner, the whole interview, so that Rick, that's in the same interview? I don't think it was an interview. He was sending, yes, you got it, too. Rick Rock showed me the DMs that he was getting from the FDA. He just hit me in my DM. He kept it respectful. He was just like, hey, man, you know, he's like, man, you know, I respect your homie, baby, so. I'm like, yeah, that's my bro.
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34:34He know what's up. You know, you can ask him about me. He was like, yeah, I just seen the content you did and shit. I was just like, yeah, for sure. And we left it there, though. He said, you the only one he respect, bro. He said, no, the Rick Rock, they said, the only one I respect is Ed Hefe. He didn't tell on nobody. The police was following him. Yeah, he said, but your rockhead ass. He was talking about it. He was talking about it.
34:58Hey, man, that shit was funny, though. He was going in. He was like, you calling me fat. Oh, he was just going in on Rick Rock. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He went in to my mind. He said, Crip, Crip, Crip, you game-banger. Is he not a game-banger? I don't know. I think he was or is something. I don't know. I feel like he's on the right side of the line. But why that group, why California people went together? Y 'all California, y 'all think y 'all game-bangers? Because that shit is mad for him. What I can expect about him, he didn't say that. Like, he just, what he said, like, he just basically kept it about 4X and called him a county, a county egger.
35:41He's like, man, you know, you county egger. I hate you county eggers. What that mean? Like, Cunning Hill? Yeah. So, basically, he was saying that the stunts 4X be pulling and doing, that you're not doing that on a prison yard. You're not going to get away with it. You're not doing that on the streets. You're doing that and getting away with that in the county. That's what he was saying. And that's when he was all like, I don't respect you, and you better stay in California and all that. So he was just like calling him like, man, you a county. You a county type nigga. Like, you ain't doing that in the prisons.
36:08They ain't standing for that. But anybody know, like, the crazy stuff that's going on in the county, hell, no, you're not doing that in the prison. You going to be the victim if you think you're going to be getting away with anything crazy in that pen because the homies ain't allowing that, period. All right, so let's bring it back to the 607-Hong thing because this is my main thing. He clearly has been kind of given the leeway in Chicago or whatever to do this whole BDG advice or thing, whatever. Apparently, everybody thinks that's funny and nobody thinks it's a problem. I don't think California is really the place for him to be pushing the envelope as far as making jokes about gangs.
36:46How long was he really running around Chicago doing that for? Probably like two or three days at a time. I'm going to be totally real with you. It's not like you spend huge amounts of time out there. But this is one thing I realized because I was just in Texas and I'm talking to them about their Bloods and Crips shit. the the consensus i got from people was they don't really give a shit it's not really that big a deal to them you could have a whole neighborhood full of bloods hanging out with crips it's about who you fuck with and let's be real out here is really not in the same way out here it's like your gang connections are super important and i feel like in new york i kind of got the same vibe where i'm realizing like oh like the the gang affiliation is way less important there than it is in LA.
37:28LA is the number one place. When he said that word and Munchie said, what? Watch your mouth. I mean, you literally offended like every person who's affiliated with that out here. So let me ask you this, Adam. So in Chicago, so I mean, what's the difference from Chicago and LA? Like, it's like we keeping it like real, like they spanking, they spanking more shit out there in Chicago than LA. I think they're more dangerous. What's more offensive him said in Chicago, let's just say he dissed a derogatory term for GD of Viceroy. Do they have those? Yeah. I'm not going to say it's the way you diss everybody.
38:08You diss everything, for sure. That used to be like their biggest gang. You know what I'm saying? Or let's just say he throw the pitchfork down or something, you know what I'm saying? Which is disrespectful. You know what I'm saying? So it's like I don't think there's no difference in Chicago than it is in LA. Like, people be trying to do too much with that. He is hitting this nothing out there, but he is playing with it by saying BD, GD, Vice Lord. Right, but that's different than him, like, literally dissing their sets. But he's doing a whole campaign playing victim right now, but you really ain't no victim because that show went on long enough for me to start texting after he set the stupid sheet.
38:43You know what I mean? And I'm like, I don't think 4-H's wanted to do nothing. It was a scare straight program, and he accomplished it. And I think it was good that 4-H's did it the way he did it. Because if 4X would have went in there and talked to him regularly like, hey, bro, you can't be playing with the hell like that or sex playing with the guy, he would have still been playing around not taking shit serious. I think 4X went about it the way he should have. But him talking about some, I ain't much EB. I could have said a whole lot. You know what I'm saying? I could have said a whole lot because Adam, they ain't work twice in your face, bro.
39:22Wait, what? What? that a short sleep? Yeah. You're saying I said that to four extras. Just like the St. Louis dude did. When did I say that? He said, what'd you say? You said, and y 'all bleeped it out. Where your editor at? What are you talking about? When did that happen? The Trap Lord Ross? It was nobody but four extras and him sitting down and he said, N-word. He's like, what? When? N-word. Did this happen? And then they bleeped it out and said, beep, beep. I said, I got respect for that crib. I would like to challenge this narrative. Can we bet some money? I don't want to bet money. I just want somebody tell me when this happened.
40:02Don, do you remember this? Let's gamble. He's saying that I said the short sleep. Maybe he said the other N-word. No way. Y 'all just think that. I don't think so. I would remember it. I remember it. I remember Trappler Ross saying the C-word in front of him like it was yesterday. That was an intense moment. I don't know what he's talking about, but I want, but I, but I'm pretty sure it's a note out of as many segments y 'all got. It's a no jumper episode that you can go back and you probably explaining the story and say something that was derogatory towards him saying him. Maybe because you know, taking a short sleep is pretty common, but there's no way that I said something.
40:40Not like knowing him. I don't think so. He had the same reaction. I need you tell me where it is. Cause I don't remember. Does anyone, I'm not seeing anybody in the chat who remembers this. Oh, let's go. It's gonna pop up. No, if it did happen for sure I will change my opinion and apologize but I don't remember that bro you gotta you gotta remember right because when it came out I heard it boom but then on other episodes it's a beep over it I said aw they so who Laura bleeped over it caught her I don't remember this I'm looking for somebody to show me in the chat because I don't remember it and I'm not saying it didn't happen because it's a fucking normal word let's be totally real It is a normal word, and that's why I told you I ain't about to be watching my mouth when I'm just regularly talking.
41:24I'm not trying to disrespect somebody, but when you deliberately trying to disrespect somebody, it's something different. You know what I mean? Like these weirdos in my DMO, suspect dish a hood, because he calling Brandon a federal fag, and you dish the hood by the head for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just people on the internet trying to do too much, man. That's like a common word that people use to dish each other outside the context. If they used it for you or in a way where it was obviously intentional, that's the conversation. Because it's a normal insult for other people, you know? No, but, like, honestly, at the end of the day, like, I never felt like it was really that.
42:02See, I feel bad that he now says it's so uncomfortable because I never felt like it was that intense. Which one? Like, when faux exes was turning up on him and all that shit. So, so, so, so, let me, can I ask this question? So let's just paint because I don't know if this was the narrative or not. Let's just say I come, you know what I'm saying? Or how I'm trying to explain the situation, talking about it's 30, 50 dudes, you know what I'm saying? Why you come with all your homies in this? Which, by the way, that was an exaggeration. It's a bit of an exaggeration. Him saying 50 dudes was an exaggeration, for the record.
42:37He's exaggerating and lying about a lot of stuff, but that's definitely one of them. He said it was good. He had a good on him. They draw it down on Mikey. We ain't going to even forget that. I can't give an exact figure, but it was less than Travis Ford brought. I can tell you. All right. So let's say, so do y 'all think it's any less compact if I just come, four extras, regular, turned up by myself, only move, this and that, minus the homies? You know what I'm saying? Like, because you can still get the same message across. You feel me? So I think a lot of people that was hopping out there that had their opinion that didn't like it, that was like it was bullying and was like, while you come at all them dudes and then you do that standing over him like that and you got all your homies for backup.
43:20You know what I'm saying? But didn't 4Xtra bring the dude that was sitting next to him? I don't know. I don't know. The dude was supposed to be Unk backup, but he was acting like he was the Great Street dude. It took me a while to figure out that that dude was supposed to be with Unk because he was laughing his ass off at 4Xtra because I mean, he might fuck with Unk, but he's also looking at 4Xtra like everything he's saying make sense because he knows exactly how hard he would go up if somebody was dissing great. Well, I hope Unk didn't pay him. But what people got to understand, because I didn't even see all that, but like, no, it ain't no bullying.
43:55Definitely when Unk hopped out there because you see the clips of Unk hopped out there and he's playing, like saying like homosexual slurs and like towards four extras. And Adam is kind of really like trying to tell him like, man, like, hey, he's still like, yeah, man, forget that. and then somebody get on you like that's one thing about it you can't be playing because you can't tell nobody how to handle disrespect and or how to mourn and that's how i feel like a lot of this shit like i don't know like how long unk really plans on being a part of no jumper because we tell him he gets confronted by forestry they do the podcast together you'd think that at some point in all that that he would get the clue that this is not appreciated for you to be playing with his name like that and then he spent like the past week saying gay shit about him telling him he wants to fight him etc now i have heard through the grapevine a certain no jumper employee has been talking to them and i guess forex is down to sit with 607 unc again he's maybe opening his mind a little bit to making great content but all i gotta say is that like bro like why are you just going around talking about you wanting to fight him and shit like it's not you think i mean Yeah, it don't matter.
45:07When your pride get hurt, you ain't worried about size and all that. He got embarrassed. He thought he think everything was a joke. He learned it wasn't a joke, and he embarrassed his pride is hurt. I don't think that's a good idea for Unk. I'm going to be totally honest with you. I know you don't like me treating Forex as if he's a superhero, and it's not that, but I don't think that would be a good move for Unk. I'm going to be honest with you. But when you feel like your pride was hurt, you feel me? And it ain't about the win or loss. He's got to get that. he said he felt he was at a disadvantage we know it wasn't 50 but even 4X is a disadvantage on your own really he just starts casting spells he like disappears like Nightcrawler he reappears behind whether you like 4X or not does anybody really think that 4X would have acted differently to Unk if it was him and one homie versus him and 20 homies I'm gonna be real Unk to Unk 4X might as well be 20 homies like he's just not it's not happening that's like me arguing with Brock Lesnar but he did he don't need homies he did he had the same reaction to Munchie that he had against 4X he just as soon as like Munchie was like what he was like I'm sorry my bad I didn't mean to offend you and that's the whole thing with on too is that like I get on the phone with him this is why I was still in Texas this is the weekend after last and it's like I tell him like yo I'm sorry about how this shit went down with 4X or whatever are we good we have a whole conversation and it's all good it's all like no issue at all and then the moment he gets online it's like a completely different story like he that's like one of his problems is that he doesn't really have it in him to really hold shit down and like say how he actually feels to you off camera and then he'll just get on the internet and just start talking all crazy like that is his condition he might be a little bit bipolar i don't even think it's bipolar i just think he's kind of like a coward to be honest like and i don't even want to say it like that but like he'll say one thing to people off camera and then he'll say something complete like look what he did before extra he's fucking apologizing to him on camera and off camera and then he goes online and he just immediately starts violating him i mean that that is cowardly and that's why i don't feel bad about saying that because that's pretty much the definition of what that is for sure for sure but i someone like me the way i look at unc i don't like have him as this exalted street figure in my head so when that happens, it doesn't shatter his aura whatsoever.
47:29But then there's people like Flacco that are like, oh, 607 Oak is finished. Flacco believed in him. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that he still doesn't have a chance to be successful. It doesn't mean he's still not. It doesn't really affect him in any way. No, he got to find a new gimmick, bro. The gang shit ain't going to work out here. Playing with that ain't going to work. Do you realize people got their shit on their face? People are super ready to die about their gangs out here. What are we talking about? He knew what he was going into doing the pot with Faux Extra. What I'm saying is he was doing all that content with Brick Baby, right?
48:04What was the joke? The joke wasn't, oh, Brick Baby's a crip, so I'm going to say a bunch of shit that's offensive to the crip. The joke was, we're going to pretend we're gay. I think you should go back to that. Because honestly, I think that has more of a long-term potential. He's doing both. He said he's not doing no content with Wack until you see his ass, so he could tell because it'd be wrinkled or some shit. And I'm like, damn, that was that first week. So was he out here trying to come out here like on some Crip Blood, South Side, North Day or something like that? We didn't give him enough time.
48:31He probably would have got to that. He didn't get to North Airport. The thing is, like, obviously, like, out of state, like, there's a lot of the cities where neighborhoods and gangsters be together. It's all over the country I've seen shit like that. And it's just like Crips versus Blood. It's like, it's not like that out here, obviously. So I don't think he, I don't think the 607 thing is meant to be offensive. I've talked to other people from St. Louis. That is an actual thing where he's from. Hey, it's how you perceive it. Yeah. Am I saying that right? You take it. Yeah, the way I take it.
49:08I can say a lot of shit downfield is disrespectful. It's how I perceive it. You know what I'm saying? Right. Like, take that dumbass joke. You got to find a new lane, bro. Like, that shit is stupid. It ain't funny to me, bro. I ain't never laughing at no GDBD vice lord shit. They die about that shit. It is weird because, like, he says the GDB device sort of thing, and it could be, like, the 18th time that podcast that he said it, and Lush is still going to laugh. I mean, it is funny. Yeah, but how many times can it be funny? It's not even really. Like, if I say blow it, creep, Hoover. It's not really.
49:38Like, what is funny about it? It's just you're just saying the name of three gangs in a row. No, like claiming that shit, like you're really from there and putting something. I don't know. Right, but, I mean, I feel like it's funny, like, once or twice. Larry David. Okay, see, that's funny. That's funny. That's hilarious. That is funny. Yeah, he just happens to be the founder of Seinfeld. Peter Seinfeld. Yeah, that's hilarious. I didn't know the Seinfeld part. So you really white, bro. We both know that. Larry David's like a super famous actor. I eat my 607. And I know who Larry David is. And he looked like, man, that'd be funny.
50:11Definitely. When he be cast and he start doing all that. Nah, he looked like one of them little Egypt characters. You know, they had like little wolf dogs. Hyrophilithics? Yeah. He looked like a little boo-boo.
50:25he's like what a little harold griffin yeah what a blue things they used to pray to man see we didn't even get a chance to get into all that because like my all right like 607 on kind of like threw me for a loop where like there was a there was a few issues with his pardon that i felt like we're gonna have to get to at a certain point which is just that he was really going hard with like derailing conversations at a certain point and at a certain point that was gonna have to get discuss but we didn't really get to that because then instead he just ended up uh dissing all the gangs but like you know like we're sitting there having like a really good conversation we're 20 minutes into it and he's going
51:05twerking hey that shit beat man and i'm looking at the chat and i'm seeing people dying laughing about it so i'm kind of like okay like i guess like if this is going to keep people entertained a little bit but it's like bro that shit's not going to last forever be like 15 000 live viewers and then even like you know you're having like an intense conversation about something and then he goes all right but gang gang here's the thing we in africa right now and like you know for me i'm the good podcasting guy man i don't think that's very good podcast he just came from utah yeah man i don't know i don't get look he be doing that shit that shit be for me i'll be looking like man that should be funny right but i feel like it's it's it can only be funny for so long now i do believe that he could switch it up but i also feel like it's a part of his character look how many times people go back and watch their favorite episode of this or go watch this like youtube this shit is tv like people watch this like tv this is tv for some people so it's gonna it's it's not gonna get old for some people because he in character is part of his character I'm going to tell you what it is.
52:15I just heard Lush say, bro, why is your belt unfastened? I'm like, why this nigga buckling this shit next to me, right? I'm like, I'm trying to poise. I'm like, I don't know what the fuck this dude on. The first episode? Yeah, he unbuckled his belt. See, with that episode, that's what I was kind of telling you because you kind of hit me to DM about that too. Like, hey, boy, the nigga had his belt up. And that's when he was pretending to give Ant top. That's when he was pretending to give Ant top. Get the fuck out of here, man. He dropped to his knees. And that's when I requested to sit somewhere else.
52:45He wanted to hint at that. He wanted that to be the joke. Nah, nah. Nah. This one of them situations, no, he was just passionate in the way he felt. And I don't know why. He's passionate. That's right. You laughing and you feel like, and I don't know why he chose to fall in front of me, but he definitely did unsexual because if he would have did, if I would have felt violated anything, I would have tripped. But I feel like he was feeling it out. He wanted to know if you were going to trip on him. Man, add him on some bullshit. Oh, he was testing him. Never. I think he wanted to see, like, is this the kind of guy who's going to turn up on me or not?
53:18This is the thing. How do you test somebody without going forward? You got to touch something, grab something, do something. That's what Ann said. He was in front of him. People try to make something like he was in between his legs. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. I had to trade like this on my lap. He was close as hell, for sure. This is what he did do. He was on his knees, and he was laughing. He had an elbow, like, right here on my knee. He like, man, dog, what I'm trying to explain, but he definitely ain't did nothing sexual. For sure, for sure. We ain't going for that. Hey, bro, man, I don't know.
53:48Maybe he needs to fix some things up, bro. But no, I think he ain't. But look, I think he was trying to be on some fashion statement type of shit because on the belt he had, it was a gun. And it was like a Trey 57 or a 38. So when it was unfashioned, the gun was hanging like he had a burner on his way. So I think he was kind of trying to be on some shit like that, like I got the blick or something. For the record, not a real gun. But I don't think that's the case Because it was fastened at one point When he came in the door it was unfastened When he came in the door and I seen him it was unfastened He never unfastened That's what he didn't do Y 'all trying to make this shit some other shit That man did not come in here with a Fastened belt and then unfastened it Like he was trying to get freaky bro I feel like he was doing all kinds of like He didn't do that He never unfastened his belt He noticed it at a certain point And when I heard him say that He said bro Where's your belt on Fancy I said what the What's going on Cause I said when he first Walked through the door Where Adam was introducing him Like man y 'all know His shit was already hanging Cause I seen the little gun dangling I gotta learn like Some aura points from you Because if something like that Happened to me They would have found a way To spin it against me 1000 % They been trying to spin shit Against me If you let them do it They gonna do what you let them do Shit Like You know an aura point Is letting it get to you or not You know what I'm saying Oh yeah no That's pretty much impossible at this point.
55:08I'm not. I'm right now. It's all kind of tight as with this. Well, you can't possibly act like you really believe that. No, at this point compared, compared to what I, compared to what I, Are you like, yeah, I feel like whatever, uh, concoction you're on is kind of preventing you from having feelings in general. First. Well, 1000%. Like, yeah. So you'll admit that that was critical. Okay. If I had come in the game, like getting faded, like would have been a different first go round for young Uno. Okay. You feel me? bbl uno in that scenario yeah i'm glad i didn't get to see that
55:48but okay i mean i guess if he does come back which he says he is i personally am looking forward to it i think we have we've already created so much lore around his initial run on the podcast that there's just so much to discuss and examine but i guess his his quote to Remo that I recall was basically that he doesn't want to keep doing, he wants to keep doing content, he doesn't want to keep doing content with gang members. He doesn't want to feel like he's being politic'd on in every episode. Now, one way that you could easily avoid All you gotta do is not diss nobody. That's what I'm saying.
56:24That would be the easiest way. I ain't ever politic'd on him, but you know as a man, you know what to avoid and whatnot. The gang community as a whole in LA probably would not really be terribly concerned with him or even talking about him at all if he had just not said a couple of different things this is the thing that i feel i thought it was like done deliberately i'm not saying he made the diss deliberately i don't think that came out premeditated but i thought that he wanted to make it a point to be like oh like i'm gonna help gangs transcend this because he kept talking about that on the pod but whenever you call him out on some shit he always comes at you with some weird mystical shit of like my message is love my message is bringing people together What are you talking about?
57:08What the fuck? We were talking about you insulting and offending a bunch of people, and now you're going to try to use this weird spiritual excuse to be like, oh, well, I'm an agent of love. The fuck does that mean? Nobody cares. It's a great escape act. He don't like being cornered, bro. He put everybody else in awkward positions, but when he didn't win, he don't like that shit. Like that Hoover tat, when I said I'm going to have a little broad DM Mr. Four Xers, he didn't like that. You know what I mean? I'm sure he did. I mean, keep in mind, we didn't know he was a Crip, a Hoover, or anything when he came out here and started doing content.
57:43I think him having any kind of gang affiliation was totally new to me and everybody else from my perspective. If he goes to the Hoovers, they're going to whoop his ass, bro. Gumby's definitely hit me up about it. He's definitely trying to, I think, install a little bit of fear into the mind of 6 or 7.0. I talked to Gumby. I talked to him. Me and Chig. We need to all sit down. I think that he feels like six or seven has some, some learning to do as far as how you got to behave out here, which I personally, I think that that is a great idea. I think that he definitely needs a little bit of education.
58:16He's not interested if he can't turn it into a joke though. And that's kind of what I thought that was the point of the faux extra podcast. And that's why maybe I approached it in the wrong way when I was sitting down and I was like trying to rehash conversations that were already, I wasn't trying to necessarily instigate. I just thought that was like what was supposed to be discussed. You was like, why you keep bringing it up? The S word. Why you keep bringing it up? He was going off on you. Yeah, yeah, exactly. He felt attacked. He said, I'm in LA. You trying to get me killed. And I could see looking back on it.
58:47I was like, damn, maybe I was a little bit too. Nah, you didn't do nothing wrong, bro. Yeah? Nah, man. Look. And that episode needed to happen. And they just told me he's a buster because there's two clips that's kind of crucial. The rest of them, Fo 'ette's just laughing and having a good time, bro. That's what it felt like to me. There was a jovial tone for the majority of it. He did keep saying, I don't know if I'm going to make it out of here alive. But then there was uproarious laughter afterwards. It wasn't like, yeah, you might not. But you got to realize, too, that he doesn't mean a lot of the stuff that he says online because he is just kind of constantly trolling but i don't think that the people at home really like get it a lot of times that a lot of the stuff that he's been saying to make himself feel like or look like a victim is bullshit and nobody here agrees with him in any way and i'm talking about the staff i'm talking about everybody everybody looks at him like forex gave him a pass that he really didn't have to give him you know and he walked into a no that's the whole thing like i guess he's mad that you weren't there or whatever but it's like oh and i hate that bullshit people do podcasts on here they know multiple days in advance that i'm not going to be there they do the podcast and then they act like i'm scary and like there wasn't a reason why i wasn't there like i wasn't there because i was in fucking texas and it's exactly the same as the shit with american cholo where they acted like oh adam stayed home to play poker he was supposed to to do this podcast when every single person there knew that I had a poker tournament that day and I wasn't coming into the office and then everybody just lies and acts as if this was all like a big thing with me being scared.
1:00:28It's like, bro, I tell you guys when I'm not going to come. You all know and then you just lie about it afterwards because it's a compelling narrative. Who else lied? Because I'm talking about AD and them back in the day. Hey, look, look. So, so, so, so. Because every time you go on, some bullshit happens. So, American Cholo, the suspect with the Brennan thing and then this little earthworm gym because that was while I was in New York that the suspect and yeah yeah yeah because I think I I landed on the plane and this had happened in terms of pulling out the knife so do we feel like if Adam was there so it's three you were like three for three with the absinthe in the bus but honestly would any of those maybe the faux extra nut pod would have gone a little bit y 'all keep forgetting that man controversial man is the number one recipe for social media, man.
1:01:16607 Unkin character, man. He understands and knows that controversy sells, and that's what he doing, man. 607, man, he trying to do views, man, and get chipped, man. No, I think, bro, he ain't done. He's staying away, right? After your situation, this whole, my opinion, this whole, for what you think, after that, and he leaving a whole 50 ,000 fight with so all nice, man. He building up anticipation. He know what he doing. He ran in himself. Okay, all for what? Yeah, but he gotta tweak his little content a little bit, man. Also, though, we can't really blame Adam not being there. But we different characters though.
1:01:54How you gonna tell him how to do his content now as far as being disrespectful? Yeah, of course, but anything outside of that. But my thing too is like anyone who's gonna be a host on No Jumper cannot be engaging in this like making up fake narratives about No Jumper to make the brand look bad and when you act like i was supposed to be there that day yeah and you actually knew multiple days in advance that i wasn't going to be there because i had a trip that it's not like i bought a plane ticket on a whim i had the plane ticket like fucking two three weeks in advance it's like i don't appreciate that and that's the kind of thing that's going to make me like okay you're funny you're entertaining to have on stream but i can't fuck with you because you're doing this lame ass shit and i was going to say the the kelpie shit happened with you being right there.
1:02:39You feel me? Yeah, it took me like 15 seconds to get in my chair because I'm fucking fried. I'm just saying like so we can't use Almighty as an example. No, he's not the example. He's the example. I'm saying every time Adam's gone we ain't using him. But I'm saying but the most turned up incident that's ever happened on a no jumper camera, Adam was right there. Yeah. So you can't really say that. I think the most serious one probably American Cholo didn't come up here with like 50 messages? Well, no, I'm saying as far as what happened on camera but also that's a situation that is constantly lied about because ad invited them there and then acted like he didn't acted like it was like yeah and then he acted like it was this like sneak attack that ad was looking like thank god we had him to save us when in reality he scheduled it he invited them he knew i wasn't going to be there and then he said that i was shook and that's why i wasn't there which this is the kind of thing that i'm not dealing with that that's Joel Schumacher era Batman cinematography what the fuck does that mean?
1:03:39that's like classic Batman movies he's setting himself up for greatness so 607 Unk so basically he tried to paint the narrative that you set the full extra situation up yeah alright quick question and then I was surprised him by not being there after that he drove to Texas so when he was with you for them 3 hours after he disappeared how was the energy with y 'all? completely fine because you got to realize that the the four extra clips hadn't started coming out when he drove to texas but he was already so think about the level of of fucking with us that he was on that he drove all the way to texas to hang out with us then the clips start coming out and this lets you know how affected by the comments he is because then the clips start coming out and then all of a sudden his attitude becomes oh no jumper did me so dirty but he didn't feel that way before the clip started coming out because he indicated by the fact that he drove to Texas to hang out with us.
1:04:35You could look at what I posted on my Instagram immediately after the pod, and it was Meepo, Extra, and Unk, and everybody was chill. It was good vibes. That was immediately after. I think that man will feel away. He was just affected by the fact that so many people were hitting him up acting like he was a bitch. He is. Oh, yeah, they see him getting that straight there. So, because they had to make no sense because one thing about it, you're going to feel played in person. I'm going to feel played in person. I'm going to wait until those clips come out to feel played. Like if you violated me, I'm going to feel violated on the podcast.
1:05:04I'm going to be mad. You should have did all that rant on your way to Texas. You went to Texas, hung with Adam, chilled, and then started tripping after the clips came out. But I'm not even going to go into detail, but it was like, there's a pretty funny reason why we only hang out for three hours because there's a person that... You told me the dude was about to get on him. Wasn't some dude. But that was separate. No, but I'm saying like there's a dude that six or seven uncles always with and they came and they met up with us and the people that we were with and very quickly it became clear that the person that Unk is always with had serious funk with the people that we were around which we're not even knowing that any of these people could possibly have funk but it's Texas shit people hang out in Texas people doing fucked up shit to each other whatever but I don't know.
1:05:50It's not like Texas got it back. Texas got Unk back. The fat dude, the FDA dude? Who is a crib by the way? I don't know how I forgot that. I mean, there's a lot of people that, like, Uncat's a big following. There's a lot of people supporting him. No, I'm talking about that actually spoke out, like this dude from Texas. I'm talking about he better not come to Texas. Flowing ad budget on metrics that look great till the CFO sees them. That's bull spend. And marketers are calling it out in Dashboard Confessions. I remember telling my boss, it'll be good for the brand when leads were slow. Yeah, it wasn't.
1:06:27Cut the bull spend. LinkedIn lets you target by company, job title, and more. Advertise on LinkedIn. Spend$250 on your first campaign and get a$250 credit. Go to linkedin.com slash campaign. Terms and conditions apply. He said that? He said that? Why is FDA saying that? I don't get it. What's his anti? He said it off. Why is he mad at Forexras? It sounds like he probably got a relationship. Or why is he mad at Unc? No, he ain't mad at Unc. He's mad at Forexras. He basically said Forexras. So basically he said 4Xers is a bully. 4Xers is trying to stand up over him. He said. So he threw a few other names out there.
1:07:02He said 4Xers wouldn't do that. Wouldn't be standing up over King Peel. He wouldn't be standing up over Aaron the Plumber doing this. He like. You say you always talk about you knocking stuff out. I know a few people that want to get you fades. You ain't taking no fades. He had like a lot of reasons. Like he was like real passionate. Like in his rant like about 4Xers for sure. Definitely. Okay. So I feel like. Yeah. It's going to be very interesting for people who are avid No Jumper Watchers. It's going to be very interesting to see how the Unk return goes. How do we make them feel safe? Listen, I just want to make this clear in advance.
1:07:35I am going on vacation tomorrow. There will be a 607 Unk episode with other people. I will not be there. So I just want to say that. And even though I just said that, people are still going to say that I did a fucking switcheroo on them. and then actually, oh, look at Adam. He didn't come because he was scared or whatever. I have an Airbnb for the weekend. We were going somewhere. So I just want to make that perfectly clear for you fucking assholes who all want to make this something where I just like set this shit up in the last minute. Ha ha, I'm not going to show up. It is a holiday to be fair.
1:08:08That is a good point. Was it the 4th of July? Yeah. That makes sense. Anyway, I want everybody to check out Everything 420. Their site and app are loaded. And plus, they've got the 4th of July and July 10th sale. 30 % off glass, concentrates, THC vapes, mystery boxes, and more. Use code NOJUMPER for extra money off at checkout. That's NOJUMPER, one word, gang. Okay, so this is the other thing I really, really am dying to talk about. We're going to play a video. I don't know if people want to put their headphones on, but we're about to watch one of the funnier videos to have come out on the internet in recent memory we recently did a conversation on camera with a young man by the name of Lil Brazy and it turns out he's a Lil Brazy he's brazy about snacks he's at 7-Eleven and a a Sereno approached him and they were not happy about the fact that in the interview and this is actually extremely similar to the 607 situation, but in the interview, at one point, he dissed the Serenios.
1:09:22He used a word that is often used to diss them, and certain people are mad about it. So let's watch this clip. Oh, shit.
1:09:50Okay, this is the clips and North days are supposed to be beefing Oh, see, I'm either who the South side is not No, I fuck with essays. I can't lie. I fuck with L.A. essays But they don't really like it. Like even lush looks like he's about to jump out of his chair
1:10:09In my city 18th Street is the South side of my city. Okay, those are the serenials But back in my city They're weirdos They don't follow code They put snitches on They put hood hoppers on They condone faggot They just do a bunch of shit I literally got pictures of their big homies Kissing their other big homies Wow Anyway I never watched that Crazy interview He was talking crazy He was dissing the Nortes the whole episode I guess that's their primary ops up in Ogden. No, he did. He did. In the full interview, yeah, yeah. He was calling them all kinds of other shit. So he's dissing both sides of the Mexican equation, which is really probably not a great idea, especially if you want to be moving around smoothly down here in Southern California, where, yes, you're not going to run into any Norteños, but you're definitely going to run into nearly every Mexican being a Southsider if they gangbang.
1:11:07Why you just didn't diss the 18th Street? Why you diss the whole thing? Right, well, but he did that too, right? That too? well he said that the 18 streets where he lives are what the serenios are right yeah and he said yeah he was he that was definitely fools from 18 ain't gonna be feeling that yeah yeah so okay lush how do you feel about this because a lot of people have kind of been on our case acting like it's fucked up for us to have even allowed this young man who is underage i think he's 15 to come onto of the podcast and basically this is ops insult various gangs from my perspective it's kind of like well if you say that you're about that life you come on the podcast who am i i'm not your fucking dad it's not for me to decide whether this is a thing that you should be saying or not i'm gonna let you come on here you want to be a rapper right you want to be ebkjbo it's painfully clear we're gonna let you say whatever the fuck you want to say shouts of brazy i've been rocking with him for a few years.
1:12:07That's your OG. Yeah, exactly. That's the big homie. Now, this fool, Kenny, had posted him. Shout out to what, Bracey, the little kid? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You shout out to him? We're talking about him right now. Shout out to what? He got marked out twice. Well, yeah, but, okay, well. Man, ain't no shout out, man. Way more than that, though. That's just us. That's why he's the only one. That's why I like it. You just got to keep it regular. I like the kid, but like the homie first posted him back in when he was 11 years old, four years ago. So I've seen him go up. He's definitely a good rapper. And like Adam said, like his one of the main points of his appeal and what made him go viral is he was saying the N word.
1:12:51He was dissing ops. He essentially like sounded like a Stockton rapper. You know what I mean? And that's why Chris Brown posted him on his Instagram, which that's according to him was really kind of like the jumping off point of him deciding that he wanted to be a real rapper. That's what made him go viral. So all we, all we did was like give him a platform to do exactly what he was already doing. There was no preemptive coaching or anything like that. The fact that that narrative is going around. Oh my God. It's not only insane. I would love to formally respond to that. I didn't actually watch the clip, but I heard that there's a narrative going around where a little Brazy's manager is telling people that me and maybe you as well.
1:13:32I saw that too. That we told little Brazy to diss the Southsiders. Why would he do it? Why would we do that? Let's do that. That is the most dishonest thing possible because I don't feel like almost anybody out there would actually fall for that. You all can watch that clip and see how shocked we were when he let that word come out of his mouth. But that's on his management. man, I don't know. I'm people who, who, who, who, his management is a J. Well, here's the thing. His management would never actually say that for real, because every conversation I've had is like, so he's chill. You know what I mean?
1:14:02And his management was begging me. If I showed you my text records with this guy, you would not believe how hard he was on my ass. And for like months and months and months to give this kid an interview. And then when we finally do it, they just go around and start making up shit and saying that we, that they told us. That is so embarrassing too. I don't know if Lil Brazy would actually agree with that or stand on that on camera, but could you imagine Lil Brazy saying, oh yeah, Adam told me to diss this gang and that's why I did it. No, that invalidates him as a street person to no end. That's embarrassing to his management because they're supposed to prep him.
1:14:40He already invalidated. Man, they got two clippings. Oh, there's more. There's like at least three or four different clips of him getting marked out. And I fuck with him too I honestly think he has A little bit of a potential In the game If he plays his cards right He just signed He has like a pretty He's with OTR Which we gotta talk about Them as well Big set going crazy on them Man Bro what Man he just Look man Not even just what Adam showed Like and I understand He a kid but When you out here Running your mouth And you talking What you talking You dissing people He just got one clip Where he was like Man call my mama man What was this I thought we was Coming to kick it What You know that The cold part it's over man so like when I actually wound up talking what's crazy is like his story is however much what he said in that interview was real or not his real life story is insane as fuck and I think that once people actually hear that they'll be like oh okay crazy?
1:15:39yeah beyond what he said in the interview? beyond what he said in the interview so is it real okay besides his real life story alright so it's obviously that you feel sorry for because he obviously told you something that got you heartfelt for let me ask you this is he really a blood and is his name really little brazy i think the problem is is that the standard to be a blood is relatively low in ogden utah yeah like the police fuck on that police fuck on like they start yeah there was a press conference with the police where they basically were acknowledging that yes they may have a gang in ogden utah that has the same name as a gang in LA, but that doesn't mean that they're really in any way connected, which we all know that, but the police did a whole press conference to assure the public that they didn't really have these super dangerous street gangs.
1:16:24Because I looked up the murder rate in Ogden. It's a nice town. Yeah, nobody's killing each other. It's literally like a ski town. Yeah, and I mean, people are probably beating each other up and shit a little bit. That's what I'm going to play. From Ogden? Ogden, Utah. It's outside Salt Lake. Basically, he just put on the character. I mean I think he believes that he's A street dude or he like wants to be J-Bo So bad that he's In that conversation I mean I think he wants to be that But he's not really moving around as if things can happen And that's obvious because he's getting punked out By all these people Yeah yeah see
1:17:01Prestige His name is Prestige and he's the problem Well here's the thing like the manager wasn't even there We looked out for him not only So he popped up first of all Well, at the in-store, there was an awesome shit in-store right next to Dub was doing an event. And it was wearing on some shit in the interview. Yeah, right after the protest thing. So me and Steven slid through. Dub was there. Rainwater was there. This fool. Who else? Travis. He just had like a few random other kids with him. You feel me? He just sat around with some kids. Like literally other kids. Like they're older than him.
1:17:36Maybe they were like 18. You feel me? But there's slightly older kids than him And we got him laced up with gear You feel me He wanted the interview super bad Was very vocal about that Had been hollering at us for a while for it Gave him the interview the next day And shot him gas money to drive home Bro How is this not the fucking Unk situation It's the exact same thing He comes to LA He says a bunch of shit on a podcast Dissing people And then he blames it on us It's different, man. Unk is 50. You're right. He's literally over twice his age. So that is a good point. But he's supposed to be in prep, bro.
1:18:14He's supposed to have somebody older than some teenagers around him. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and that's the thing. He's a YC. There's no way that anyone would ever think that he would say anything other than that. If he didn't, it would have been a disappointing interview. Well, based on his music. If he didn't say crazy-ass shit that was going to go viral, based on like what he talks about. He didn't need to diss gangs. He didn't need to diss gangs, but he could have. And that's why the streets messed up right now because people give in to this type of mentality that it's okay for him to come on here on the podcast to say all that disrespectful stuff.
1:18:52And then he get caught out there in the street and he punk out and people still rock with him. Like, oh, well, he's a kid and he's supposed to say that so he can have a dope podcast. Emergency. The point is that Brick Not The Trick is on the phone. Brick, not the trick. Brick, baby. Yeah, not the trick, baby. Hey. Brick in the building. Hey, you finally figured out the right time to call in. We're live right now with Lush and Hefe and Munchie. Ah, what's the deal? What's the big old deal? What's the deal, buddy? We're on the big team and the movers, man. What's happening with you? It's for you, folks.
1:19:28How you living, dog? Man, I'm cooling, man. You already know down here living the fed life, man. eating chicken on the bone and shit. Damn, bro. Yo, so are you tuned in at all to the Unk situation or anything that's been going on? We got a lot of wild stuff going on up here, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got him to it. I had called last week. They was telling me him and Four X's at Bumhead. Yeah, there was a little bit of a situation there. That's for sure. And then he also, he used the S word around Mungie, which I'm sure you heard about. That was a whole thing. Oh, wow Yeah Man, I don't know if that's the first time you heard that You heard that already Rick probably loves saying that I never heard him say it I think they did, but I replied the same way I'm going to reply I don't think he knows Like, I play with him because that's my boy But you can't really play with gang culture When you troll And that could get you exed out for a long time Facts, yeah I mean, yeah Yeah, that could get you exed out for a long, long time I don't know if a motherfucker want to sit here and really do too much, Charlie.
1:20:37Did you guys ever do content where he, like, insulted the Crips to you on his channel or something like that? Was that ever a thing? Nah, he do the blood on Crip on Vice Lord G. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Stop him there. I was just wondering if there was a precedent, yeah. He actually is supposed to be a Crip, though. No, yeah, he's got Hoover tattooed on his stomach. Yeah, yeah. 6-7-7 is like the 60s and the overs together. Right, right, right. Yeah, he's confused. He's confused. Hey, hey, your number, NBA 3, you're at. Oh, y 'all on the same flow? Nah, nah, nah. He up there with Big Dubs. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:21:23He's still up there with the boy in them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure, for sure. Hey, why nobody ain't whoop loose cannon ass yet, man? He keep running. He's a roll-up artist. He's pulling that roll set when I asked him for a fade. Oh, I heard something like that. Oh, yeah, this is what I want to ask. Hey, why? Why? Matter of fact, I think that was Adam that had them on. Why the boy Loose Cannon and twin brother come on here and say, oh, y 'all on the same floor, y 'all running the play, y 'all all together. Yeah, right. The fans telling him this. No, we was on the same floor for a second, and then he lost his marbles and then he, after he pulled the day room all of a sudden he got moved the next morning.
1:22:07You know what's, you want to know what's super funny? What's super funny is that today, it didn't actually happen, but I saw that there was a notification for Loose Cannon going on a podcast with Pun and AD. So they were, like, basically like academics and Nojumber have kind of lost interest in what he's talking about and apparently that that means he's going to go do some content with them. He need that money. He about to be talking to shit about Adam. Oh, for sure. He need that brunette. What money? I think that was the 10 minutes. I wanted to ask him how fat he was. Damn. Brick always calls me at the end of his 10 minutes.
1:22:43That was only three minutes. Free car, free rent. Free Brick. To respond to what you were saying right before, it's not about feeling bad for him. it's about I love that you kept an accurate bookmark of where you're at thank you very orderly brain on him all it took was a young Buzzy Wuzzy Buzzy Wuzzy yeah yeah like you can't blame no jumper is my point like no jumper as a platform should not be on that's the whole thing I'm trying to lean into or any or adam or myself for providing the kid a platform like personal feelings aside i happen to like like the kid i want to see him do good i like the kid me too me too you see yourself in him don't you we want to see him i'm from the mean streets of ogden you feel me like yeah so you know i think you see yourself in them i might you had some dudes got up on you like what was that you was I'm like shit like that was before the errors of being put on the internet.
1:23:58You just get your ass beat. The internet's the school. The next day you got a black eye. Hey, and for the record, Lil Brazy did issue a statement saying I mess with all my essays and Southsiders. I'm from Utah. What I said doesn't mean the same thing. I meant no disrespect to the Southern side. So at the very least, he, uh, the same thing. He just didn't mean like, like I noticed in other places outside of LA people where there's a high concentration of Norteños and Sereños, like people use those words, the disses like way more freely. And it doesn't necessarily have as disrespectful of a connotation.
1:24:40Again, And it goes back to the same to me. It's the same thing as racial slurs. And I'm obviously the wrong person to ask who gives a fuck what Lush has to say about gang disses at the end of the day. Well, you are every race. So you do have a good perspective on this. I've just been around a lot of different people. And like the way I look at any type of insult, whether it's a gang dis or racial slur or just an insult in general, it's the the the tone you have when you say it. You could be like, hey, and if it's like, if you don't mean it in a super disrespectful way and it comes across that way, it ain't going to have the same spice on it.
1:25:15But if you say something like, won't be what? Like, can you really mean it like that? That's what makes it extra disrespectful to me, at least at the ripe young age of 43 going on 22. It's happening with the 15 year olds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. just to address that throughout the history of No Jumper we have set out to interview up and coming young rappers I am like a basketball scout why would I stop paying attention to a kid just because he's 15 wait until he turns 18 to interview him the hype might be gone by that point I interviewed Matt Ox when he was 13 in like 2017 I interviewed plenty of underage rappers over the years.
1:26:00I mean, like Pump and X and all them. Come on. Yeah, they were all. But that's the thing, though, because that's how you catch an artist before peak greatness. And unfortunately, look at like for you, it would make even more sense. They'd like want to interview the younger artists because, damn, these fools died when they was 21. At the height of their ascension, they ain't even reached their full peak yet. We don't know if Lil Brazen are going to see 18. No, he ain't going to see 18. He need a better team, bro. The OGs from 18 definitely going to see him. No, no, no, no, no. No, Lil Brazy need a team around him, bro.
1:26:30Don't you be? You got to hire the B-Tag. Do you think he should start tapping in? Because honestly, that would be so viral. If we seen him in the set. No. But you got to tap in with some bloods. What do you mean? You got to take assistance. Did you not see his latest video? Who? Have you seen Lil Brazy's newest video? Why not? He's with the members, dog. Who? If he tap in with some bloods out here, he's going to end up banging one. Well, he's signed to OTR now, right? No. Did you not see his latest video? No. He tapped in with his 50s. Why are you keep asking me that? No. No. He went a bunch of gang members, bro.
1:26:58From where? Like who? California? Yeah. Down here? Yeah. Like Southern California? Yeah. Who, King Peele? No. Pull it up. Go to his Instagram. Donnie, you ain't seen that shit? I seen it. Where are they from? I don't know. They were in the middle. I heard, first of all, I heard he had linked with some hoovers is what I had heard. You feel me? That's wrong. Okay. That's what I had heard. That's wrong. That's backwards. They not in the video though It's not them, it's somebody else Not rock with the hovers, that's backwards You need to check in, not check in That's the wrong word You're talking about this right here Logging
1:27:36Low bottoms Low bottoms That's like the Peplos The Blessed On Villains Can I ask you a question? Low bottoms is like the 50s Blessed On Villains Dirty power rules There's a lot of bugs over there What is jumping out the load A load is the whip Jumping out the load I'm thinking the load is like a bunch of drugs No the load is the whip Per Stockton's saying He's jumping out the drugs I was confused by that one I don't know why they started saying Honestly even listening to that right there His rapping I don't care Whatever defects he has shown as a human being so far, I don't give a shit. Honestly, I know you're probably not the biggest fan of me right now because I've participated in sort of making fun of you by telling the team to post that on Instagram, the video of you getting punked in the corner store.
1:28:32But honestly, like that's because of your manager. I'm down to work with him and to, I don't want to be his manager. That's too much, but I'm happy to be a consultant on the rest of his career. I like, But unfortunately, we're going to have to start with not dissing the Mexican gang members because they will kill your ass. No, no, no, no. Munchie, we've been trying to advise her, bro, because somebody should have prepped him not to go on camera even dissing. He could have said everything he said without the dissing. It would have been cool. You know what's so funny, though, is that right before he said the S word, the S-C-A-R-A-P word, he had just been shouting out lefty gunplay and shit.
1:29:10So we were really taken aback when he said that. Because in our head, that doesn't make sense. You don't do that. I knew. Dude, he's a kid. He's still learning. He said so many things that were, like, blatantly wrong street-wise and gang-wise. And, like, just his whole perception. I was just like, bro, how can you really hold it against him? He's still, like, learning. You know, it's funny. Oh, man. Matter of fact, I know it's in Utah. He been quiet this whole time. I was in a fed. Ed ain't buying it. Ed been quiet like, this some good shit. No, no. Ed's been pretty black-cool. Ed's team's taking a back that me and you are, like, fucking with him still.
1:29:44Okay, so hold on Hold on Look, I'm just on him because look For real, look, alright When I was 15, bro Our 15 is different Oh man, see, when I was 15 Bro, like I was into some shit Doing all type of shit, like some grown man shit So I'm just saying He up here and he's portraying The gang culture And he's dissing people and then when he get caught Like, I can respect it more if him just standing there like, yeah, I'm from where I'm from and just get slapped and beat up and try to fight back. For sure. But you talking about calling my mommy and then your eyes getting big in certain instances, just stop the gangbanging, man.
1:30:26Call my mom. Just stop gangbanging and just be Lil Brazy the rapper and just get brazy. But, like, yeah, all the gangbanging shit, cut that out. Cut it out, sport. He definitely should have in that moment when Broly – because here's what I heard happen in that moment, right? as far as the liq incident for the liq incident apparently the dude was like yo let me take a pic with you well he was on the lick podcast as well is that what you're talking about oh you're talking about the liquor store yeah yeah the liquor store incident that's bad so i guess the podcast before like the liquor store that's pretty bad yeah yeah sorry so he walks up to the he walks up shouts to whoever you feel me he shouts to them he walks up and he's all um next to and he's all takes a pic with him and then he's like matter of fact, fuck you where you from homie?
1:31:16That's what Prestige said happened. I don't think Prestige is the most reliable narrator. I don't want to get out the Utah homies like that. Why would somebody take a picture with you only to be saying F you what's up with that now? Because that's the easiest way to get the drop on somebody. If you want to be able to just punch them in the face or be all up in their space, you ask them for a photo. Yeah, so when I asked you for the photo, you act like, did they take the photo? Because I'm not about to take the photo. Once I asked you for the photo, hey, let me get the photo on you. Then it's right off the bat like, hey, bro, yeah, what's up with that?
1:31:50But that's what happened, essentially. Oh, okay. Yeah, so he got like a deer caught in the head. Prestige, where was your antennas when he's at no job of being disrespectful? Because as a job, you're supposed to prep this little kid, bro. You know him better than us. All he said to me, he said, look out for him. So what did I do? Put money in his pocket for gas. Got him a no jumper interview. Put a new drip on him. You feel me that he wanted from the new fucking awesome shit drop. But my thing is, I feel like at least some people, I think that kind of have a point. When we have a 15 year old kid in front of us and he clearly doesn't like 100 % get it and he's saying shit that's going to get him in trouble.
1:32:32Maybe we should be a little bit more outspoken in terms of saying like, bro, maybe saying that's not a great idea. You said that. it's already said. Right, we did say that. You said that. Okay, you're right. Fuck that. We did a great job. The word that he was done, bro, it all falls on his team. Wish he don't have one. He got friends. He had his little partners around him. Where's his team? Where's Prestige? Apparently one of the dudes with him, someone said, was actually a Norte, too. Wait, so do you believe that he signed to OTR? He is signed to OTR. He is signed to them. Call cash. That's a wild move on their part.
1:33:08I'm not going to lie. That's pretty interesting. Shots of cash. They finally went... They sent a white boy before a black rapper. No, like, dude, Solis and them are smart, bro. He knows exactly... That's not a good signee. I mean, it remains to be seen. There's a lot of things that could happen. You were literally just saying, I'm willing to be your mentor, but... But that's pro bono. Yeah, but I'm just saying, regardless... Do I think that... That's not a good... Do I think that investing in Lil Brazy is a 100 % destined to yield a 100x return remains to be seen. Okay, so as far as that, and look, I'm not going to lie, Lil Brazy does need to get with the right people.
1:33:52I would really suggest Lil Brazy get with Munchie B, and here's the main reason why. Because Lil Brazy is running around with a lot of people that are kicking up a lot of dust, and I'm not going to talk about it for real. A lot of dust. Hold on, he running around with Utah people kicking up this or when he comes to the state?
1:34:14I'm referring to out here. I got to call Big Sad and find out why he's saying. That's a whole other thing. Do you have any idea why he said that shit about OTR? Yeah. Oh, Lefty. Let's see if we can get him to commentate on this. Fuck. Of course he got a new number. These rappers, man. I'm going to text him. I heard a story. Yeah, tell me what you heard. And I could say this could be right and might have more context to me about this You feel me just cuz you feel me? Under the Friday I'm gonna have more insight about this because you feel me like he fucks with he's under brother Three yeah three more inside on what?
1:35:00Okay On an OTR and Big Sad situation? Yeah. I could pull it up. So this is what the story that I heard. Okay. Let's just start with. You're talking about the Big Sad and OTR situation. Correct. Let's just read the screen real quick. Just show the screen. Don't get caught with the meth heads from OTR. I'm not sparing nobody. This is Big Sad's word. So this is what we're basing all this on. So I can tell you the story. You can tell me if it's wrong or not. Okay. You feel me? So the story that I heard was that there was a studio session. a while ago you feel me uh with lefty gunplay and this is like just saying no more clarification yeah lefty gunplay and big sad at a studio session during the session it was brought to lefty's attention the situation that he had with the so-called telling or whatever this or that you feel me and then lefty was like you know what i'm not really trying to fuck with this song no more and then Big Sad was like felt some type of way about lefty in them ever since.
1:36:00That's a crazy story. So I ain't never seen Big Sad say I have lefty gunplay and like one thing about it like if it was a situation like that like he pretty much gonna be vocal he just wouldn't came out lefty gunplay now the OTR situation from my understanding stands from the hunt from from from from Scando from Scando from BF. You know, Scando from BF and Big Sad they having their, you know, their little situation, their little fallout. You know, Scando brother is the homie P, Trey, rest in peace from Playboys, which is Big Sad boy, you know what I'm saying, before he passed away. So, Scando got out, him and Big Sad got into it over whatever they got into it about.
1:36:44Scando pushing OTR now, so it's just like, you know, Sad, like, you know, F, Scando and FTR type situation. I don't know about the lefty gunplay. both stories could be true Scandal Black right I mean I know the story I'm talking about is true I just don't know about the lefty gunplay thing yeah that's what I'm saying I'm saying that might be true as well that's Blastifu right it's interesting that he would make it about OTR and not just say lefty's name because that obviously him saying OTR is like him throwing everybody into it so he talking about lefty bro no no no not like that I would assume the rest of them not doing meth right No, he said, read it again.
1:37:23Okay, so the speculation that people were making, and this is a speculation that a lot of people had, was that it was Lefty and Chittoranas. But per my understanding, there's no reason. Are your ad campaigns lighting up the dashboard, but not the pipeline? That's bullspend, and marketers are calling it out in dashboard confessions. My boss asked for results, so I opened my dashboard for the only positive-sounding metric I had. impressions cut the bull spend see revenue not just reach linkedin delivers the highest return on ad spend of major ad networks advertise on linkedin spend 250 on your first campaign and get a 250 credit go to linkedin.com slash campaign terms and conditions apply that he has any that big sad and chito ranos would have any problem but chito ranos is otr or no yeah he is okay yeah interesting man that's crazy i i hope big sad taps in so we can get the phone number but i guess at this point we don't really know the exact story it would be interesting to get it what i said is 100 true as well you tell me like yeah but he said that then he got into it with bro about him affiliating himself with otr but then you're kind of like story is more the root of why he might have issues with otr that's kind of what i was saying i feel like before that even happened.
1:38:42You feel me? He's talking about one thing and then your story is kind of like after that timeline was. In the past year. You feel me? What's happened in the past year? Scandal being a part of OTR. Yeah, and Big Side just basically said F OTR. But we're saying the reason why he's saying fuck OTR is because of the scenario that Lush is laying out. Yeah, like he already had a pre... Does that make sense? And Lefty had put out a video You might be right, but like I said, sad vocal. Like, I ain't heard him say F. He ain't going to say L-O-T-R. He would have got that lefty gunplay. He, like, he very vocal.
1:39:19And here's the thing, though. Like, okay, so if there's a label, right? Let's say there's a label and I want to maintain a good relationship with them, right? Or it's a big organization. And they do some stupid-ass shit and I'm, like, kind of annoyed with them. I might be like, ooh, I don't want to. I might want to say something publicly, but I'm not going to. But then if there's another or multiple other situations, then I'm going to be like, you know what? Fuck all those whatever they are over there at that. You feel me? Does that make sense, Munchie? No, I'll give you that. Yeah. That's kind of how I look at it.
1:39:53So regardless of whatever it is, you know, there's going to be a response. Okay. So look, and I just got the text. Look, this is what I'm saying. And I'm not even shooting down what you said. and it's funny because it's like Adam said. But this is just people listening and hitting us up? No, no, this ain't nobody hitting us. This is one of my boys, you know what I'm saying? This is one of my boys, you feel me? Like I said, I would tap in too, but like sad is just hard. He's sad. Change his number like every two weeks. Right. The homie just said that Treyway, Treyway, Treyway 6K said that he a rat.
1:40:27He can't fuck with him on his IG. And I guess Treyway signed to OTR too, so he could. Okay, so there's another That's three different stories That's three different stories That's what the little homie just texted me and said He watching the No Jumper Live That's what he just texted me and said right now You know what I'm saying? Just texted me right now Okay, Trey Wade will come on to a situation Okay, has there been any allegations of any of those other people That we talking about Off of that crystal? No, not that I know No, just that Okay So when you say Yeah, yeah, yeah Big sad, if you want to do a lefty gunplay diss track I'm available just listen to me when I tell you bro pretty vocal like if he got smoked with Lefty Gunplay he gonna say you gonna hear it in the next track or he gonna say Lefty Gunplay 9 but of course like if I okay so let me ask you this if you're lefty you're gonna for sure take that as personal disrespect when you're like the face of the label yeah you play it for sure yeah and people already have my bad look at this full Stephen freshly cut no more angry Holy shit.
1:41:31Hold on. I told him. What? I got to put this. Yo, everybody go to my Instagram story in like five minutes. Yeah, yeah. Take your hood off, fool. Yo. No, come on. Quit playing, bro. Take your hood off, fool. Bro, what the? Bro, are you kidding right now? Take your hood off, bro. The fuck? There you go. He changed this whole swag. This bro had like the craziest Edgar ever, and now he got a straight Puerto Rican lineup. Yeah, exactly. This was from the BX. Shout out to Stefan. Yo, word of my days, B. yeah by the end of the day though you know what I'm saying like I don't know you don't know what they got going on cause I don't be all in their business like that but I think the OTR situation is from probably from Scandal I'll call something I'll see something I caught that too no I caught it too though I caught it too as far as the Bristol yeah Bristol Farms it's my favorite market too yeah so that's what I'm saying like you can't just say that because you don't know who is doing what and who is using what drug you feel me I'm not saying nobody using nothing but I just kind of feel like in the past and just me knowing sad like he gonna talk shit he gonna drop your name he would have been trolling that lefty on this shit and all that he ain't said nothing about lefty so I think it's him and the old little scandal but that's still which makes sense but you still gonna I need to hear scandal music I need to see video footage of Lefty fleeing the Big Sad studio session fleeing?
1:43:06that's insane not fleeing but you know not fleeing removing himself the story I told makes Lefty sound like a stand up street dude if we keep it in a Bundelli or someone who's very concerned about how they're going to be perceived in the media fleeing is a Funny choice of word, though, Flynn. Yeah, exactly. Is that a gang diss? No. No, it just implies cowardice. Yeah, it implies cowardice like a motherfucker. That's the thing. Lefty, look, that big, sad shit, Ben came out. Ben came and went. Like, he ain't been with all type of dudes. What big sad thing, though? The allegations. I thought you meant in recording.
1:43:48They be trying to say that he told this shit. So, like, he ain't had dudes at his show. He just had the shows. He just had the show where he let all them dudes come out. All these dudes function with each other. You know what I'm saying? Lefty Gunplay function with all these dudes and all that. So I don't see him in a studio now. Back then, I probably can see it. Like when it was fresh and it was going on. Like, hey, man. This was fresh. That's the whole point, though. Oh, it was a while ago? Yeah, exactly. And like you said earlier, that makes sense. It was a while ago. We've really only known who Lefty Gunplay was for like a year or a little less than a year, I think.
1:44:24I think my interview with him was like 11 months ago. No, I think it was probably like 15 months ago. I interviewed him last year sometime. You interviewed him for sure like a year and a half ago. No. I would say 15 months is a good estimate. This interview took place in... January. January. Oh, my bad. So it was actually 18 months ago. Wait a minute. Yeah. I can't do math. 18 months ago. a year and a half. Okay. You're more right than I was. I'll concede. See, I was wrong. He's closer to reality than myself. Yeah, I'll take it. That's like synonymous with a promotion and no junker. You got a date, right?
1:45:09I feel like I saw it recently and thought that. But anyway, yeah, I mean I don't know. Lefty Gunplay versus Big Seth. This is the reality we live in. Potentially. And regardless, my whole point is, even if he's not specifically dissing big Lefty, if I'm Lefty, I'm going to take it some type of way. Hey, what happened to back in the days, if you diss somebody in the crew, it's beef with everybody. What do you mean? Now you got to beef with death row or you got to beef with bad boy. Like, everybody OTR be trippy, right? Yes. Okay. Yes. But me and Lefty have smoked like a meh. people from OTR have talked shit about me in interviews and stuff like that but then meanwhile multiple different OTR artists have come on No Jumper and apparently they're not trying to block that which wouldn't surprise me because plenty of people do well like it's been like here's the thing my affiliation with No Jumper and when I say affiliation me being like No Jumper to the core has a map to my rap music man but that's affected like my relationship with like OTR to a degree you know like for a long ass time they look at you a little walkie well yeah for a long ass time I was the only one that they were like well how do you like that but they still send an artist over here to do interviews it's not like they're sending them but if they end up on here it doesn't seem like they're objecting yeah stepping in between it I feel like when they're still developing yeah when they're still developing and they actually get benefit from being on the platform then yeah but once they reach a certain so so it's the unk effect when he leaves fuck you listen i've got type shit i've got complaints about lefty gunplay i'm gonna jump out the window i bet they got complaints about lefty gunplay i'm gonna say many of the things that i've said about lefty gunplay are probably things that them working with him in a professional capacity for like a year and a half they probably have those concerns as well well just a guess with that being said it was really hard for me to even maintain like a cordial relationship considering how much he felt slighted and slandered by this putter on far as no jumper go I think he he wasn't funny y 'all because y 'all let the North days come up here disrespecting right now no he fucking he got mad because I did an interview with him we were a buddy buddy we took our photo you know how everybody goes out there and takes their photo me and him took our shirts off together it's out during the interview you guys were sure oh yeah right me and left we took a fucking photo with our shirts off we're bosom buddies yeah as I always say greatest moment and then he went on I think community soon after and I think somebody said like oh Adam said that you were the Mexican crit mac he did he expressed to me that he didn't like that during the interview and I just said bro like you know what I'm saying like you know you're super viral you're crazy you're out control party dude whatever it makes sense I didn't really think it was that offensive but then he basically said fuck no jumper like right after on their platform.
1:48:15And I made multiple attempts at patching it up. And ultimately, he wasn't interested. So, okay, we playing ball. Well, he had like two super big... Okay, so what about the time? He had two super big objectives. My bad. Insulting him on your platform. So, he probably... And that happened right after two. That's a good point. But I tried to defend him super hard. So, it's a lot of reasons why Lefty should say F-yard. Not OTR, but Lefty. But here's the thing, though. Like, there's two big objectives that Lefty had at that time. he really wanted to fuck with No Jumper and he was excited about that because I interviewed him three months, four months before that you know what I mean?
1:48:50Is he wrong after all those strikes though? Because Wack he made clans threw darts at him then the Northags came up here but that was way after but also he really wanted to he was super big on like look I don't want to have beef with quote unquote the blacks like him like going over there he felt super accepted and he felt love and that was like before he was working with hella like black rappers and things like that and that was I feel like him you think he was glazing the blacks no he felt that acceptance over there what was before he was working with the blacks he was pretty much only working with other Mexican artists so you're saying he goes over there he's got a bunch of black guys basically saying fuck no jumper so he just had to get in on it I feel like That might have been an influence on his energy at the moment.
1:49:43Oh, it comes back to age. And that's not saying he's being disingenuous. So, so, so, so, so, so. So, so, so, so. Maybe that was he pumped up, though? Because he expressed that he didn't like the Kripmat comparison over here. Then when over there, they brought you back up. But we all know that. That is pumped up. Jay cats are easily influenced, you know? Well, this doesn't help. When you're fried off drugs and you're not really, like, you know, a super high IQ individual in the first place, and then you're around people and they've got a narrative, you know, you're just going to kind of go with it.
1:50:16You're fucked up. That's just how it goes. I've seen it a million times. I can think of examples from this podcast. You see, you said J-Cat. I was more like trying to give him like a way out and be like, oh, it has something to do with him. Like actually, you know, commiserating with the black fools and like, like that whole thing. But you're just like, oh, he's a J-Cat. Well, I mean, he is. J-Cat is a J-Cat, bro. He had fought into that category. Kareemak had fought into that category. And I think at this point in time, it's important for us to now watch the clip of Lefty Gunplay begging for change at a fast food restaurant on the dead homies.
1:50:52How you dig this type of shit up, bro? This has been going viral pretty much for like a... Fuck, why does it say picture in picture mode? What the fuck? That's a great... Okay, wait, I got to put the sound on. All right, so this is Lefty Gunplay. I think last night, standing outside of some sort of drive-thru, begging for money. Where?
1:51:16Christian? Uh-huh. That's why they got it right on camera.
1:51:24I hate you, Charlie.
1:51:30Yeah, there's no way this is real. I totally think it's real. There's no way. No. Because he's, you can tell, like, honestly, it's kind of hard to hear it right here. It feels like the sound is really low. I'm talking about Krishan Rock. You saw the whole, like, video. She says she don't know who he is or whatever. But, like, bro, he's fucked up. Like, he's really gone up the scanty here. Wait, I just want to. You just got abandoned by Krishan Rock. Uh-huh, listen.
1:52:01You said Krishan's your new bro? I was Krishan. So what is it that you need? Help. But what is it you need from me? My phone? My phone? I need a phone. You need money for gas? Yes. Gas. I mean, I got enough to probably get you to the gas station. I got like 3-4 bucks. I got 2 personal cars to get to the gas station.
1:52:39Anyway. He could have robbed his ass unless all that jury moats a night. No, bro. You're saying you think that's a play. Let me ask you something. Do you think that lefty? Listen, do you think lefty gunplay right now is in the position where he wants people to talk about him being broke and homeless. You think he's pretending to be broken, homeless, to get a viral moment? I don't think so. I think if anything, he's trying to push the narrative towards not being a J cat. And this is like the real him. He's loaded off meth. He's driving somewhere. He runs out of gas. He ends up begging for change at the fast food spot.
1:53:27And it's caught on camera. This to me seems about as genuine as it gets. If he was going to fake something, it would be something that made him look good. Couldn't he have charged his phone and texted one of 100 people? He had no charge. He was saying what? That he didn't have a phone and he didn't have money or something? That's crazy. Yeah, because he was asking the girl to borrow her phone. Does he have Lil Brazy's manager? What's going on here? I mean, that's weird to me too because it's like I don't know anyone's phone number. He'd be meffing like that? He'd be smoking meth like that? Oh, he's gone, Ant.
1:54:00ain't got no money couldn't call nobody if smoking weed was doing meth you'd be him the way you're rolling up back to back on here just just he got all them OTR label mates he could have been this phone man he cashed up this and do this he didn't have a phone I don't know how that happens he could have asked let me ask one of those people to sign into my IG No credit cards. Lefty ain't got no bread. The label don't trust him. Yeah, they hold on to the money and then they like trickle it out because he spends money like a crazy person. They give it to him an inclement. I mean, the funny part is that in that video, he's wearing a Louis Vuitton shirt.
1:54:44That's probably$500. Exactly. I'm looking at all. And I'm looking at all this. He's a walking lick right there, standing there with all those chains on. He's lucky that a girl pulled up and not somebody was going to take that. She's lucky she ain't called nobody. Like, hey, lefty gunplay out here, man, drip, man, come pull up. Ugh. Quick. Who is shopping? Yeah, but you can't do that because then you're in the conspiracy. If they smoke them, you're going to do 50 years. No, not smoke them, rob them. But even then, if they try to rob them and they kill them, then you're going to do hell of a year.
1:55:13You're going to kill them here. Well, because then you're Max B. We just want his drink. Then you're literally Max B. We just want his drink. We're literally Max B. I'm just saying, that's why. which we never like that kind of says a lot that whack put out this whole narrative about max b talent and that nobody in the media like bit or or really like i don't know no in a previous world that would have been a big story that people would have talked about i mean i did really tell i did want to talk about it yeah it ain't true it's just one guy saying that one guy and one guy is who whack no no no no not whack the guy that whack brought on like the dude that the dude that swears to God.
1:55:52His brother. Yeah. And did nobody pick it up and cover it after that? That's the only time I've heard this discussed. I don't know if he's been on Doggy Diamonds or one of the East Coast platforms. I wouldn't be surprised. I call Cap on that. I think it ain't true. Because it would have went everywhere. Yeah. With the little Max B situation. Right. You would think. You'd think it would cause a lot of other people to start looking into it, and I get the idea that hasn't really happened. I mean, Hey, look, bro. I caught Cap, bro. None of East Coast podcasters covered it. Even talked about it for a little while and kept going.
1:56:30Like, nah. And then it's a college-chase era. Somebody from his past would have popped out alongside with old boy that was with Wack. And I think Wack was promising to produce content with, you know, the guy, his brother. Right. His brother talked about it. I thought that was the whole point. And that's what we haven't really seen. So did we dream. Exchange for a story. That's fucked up. But who brother? Max B brother? Yeah. The one who's doing life. That's what I was about to say. Motherfuckers is still locked up forever. What was the benefit of you snitching? What you mean? A lot of people snitching and they still get banged.
1:57:08What you talking about? Is that what you trying to say? Yeah. That's one part of it. Snitches never prosper, bro. That's the real thing. You would think that it would at least give you more favorable circumstances than what the fuck is your snitch info? What do you get? Extra noodles? Nah, bro. It don't work all the time. I do prosper. Snitch on my case, prosper. That's what I'm saying. Normally they do, right? Normally they do until whatever happens. What's that boy's name? The famous snitch from New York? Sammy the Bull? Frank Lucas? Alpo? I'll call it. Look, snitches never prosper. He probably got the good end of the stink in the courtroom and got out and not got banged for life, but he got out and looked what happened.
1:57:55That's because he told whoever he probably told on was like the wrong people. There's a lot of snitches out here that's known snitches that's been running around 30, 40 years plus, bro. I know. That's why I shout out to Bobby Schmurter for being like one of the someone from New York who there's no like telling associated with him whatsoever. As soon as you say that, here's a whack. I got the content. He was saying that Freeway Ricky snitched. And then on Vlad today, there was a phone call with Freeway Ricky and whack talking about it. And whack seemed far less passionate about his belief that Freeway Ricky told than he did when he was talking to them.
1:58:39Who he told them. His plug or something, I guess, from back in the day. It was like produced at work because one thing like Rick said, Rick was definitely on them federal yards. And you, a big name like Rick, it comes with like Rick, Rick, Rick a good dude. He did a lot of favors. But still, with you doing favors, man, you can be as clean as Jesus. It still comes with a lot of hate. So, like, they would have got on Rick if he told on somebody for sure. But there's always a chance that they just wouldn't find out about it until later, right? $600, give freeway Ricky Ross his money, man. And the paperwork, unless it's sealed, because, like, Like in the federal paper, you're going to see certain stuff.
1:59:14It's going to be like, oh, this seal or you got to. It's a certain number. You know, it's certain penal code that you don't read. If it's not that penal code, it's going to be sealed. So if it's sealed, it's going to make you answer like, hey, bro, what's this to seal? Why is it sealed? Right. Because if you got some seal that we can't see, you can send us some you told on something. So that's just going to get you right there. So that just having a sealed anything like. The only thing I heard ever close to Rick Ross telling was that police thing. And like a lot of people don't even look at that as telling like, man, like that was the police.
1:59:51No, the police on the case. Like, so, you know, you had the police that he was selling dope for and all that was giving him the dope. But they was trying to like make up a lot of lies and say certain shit. And he just basically telling like, no, this will happen. This was my dealings with the police, blah, blah, blah. For sure. You know what I'm saying? So that's the only thing I've heard. Hey, so do a poll. It's telling on the police telling. I feel like nobody thinks that's a thing. Why should they be the only ones with protection? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because once the police come to the dark side, you remember me, and they doing these crimes, you telling them who you are?
2:00:29Who you out here doing a deal with, you know what I'm saying? It's subjective and it's situational because I got something in my Rolodex with somebody that told on some bad police. You know what I mean? I ain't really blasted it like that. But I just want to know, like, you know what I mean? Politicians, everybody crickets. So, I mean, you can't like, I just feel it's like this, bro. Like, you know, the do's and don'ts, the pros and cons and certain stuff is double standard. And I'm one that lean with him because I know a few people that have been in them situations like that where they was dealing with the police or, you know what I'm saying, the police start telling.
2:01:07And they had to, like, man, like, set it straight. Like, man, no, you was taking money and this is what you was doing. So what if the police don't start telling? You said if the police don't start telling? Yeah, like, just hypothetical. Got to keep it gangster. Got to keep it gangster, right? Got to keep it gangster. Right. I kind of like the police not telling. gotta keep it games okay police don't tell why you gonna tell before we uh get into this next topic i just wanted to say one more time shout out to everything 420 forget the local smoke shop just order from the app it's fast and discreet shipping and that big 30 off sale for the 4th of july and july 10th is live now so use code no john bird to save more at everything 420.com or check out the e420 app um and also uh if you want to just show the screen for real quick I just want to send a shout out to all of our members.
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2:04:34And me and smack jump you homie for saying some bullshit. I'll probably whoop y 'all niggas. You turn it up. I do this shit every day. We'll beat this shit out. No, no, man we can do a challenge y 'all my niggas but we can do a challenge
2:04:53okay i was kind of painting a false narrative because let's be fair he put hands on him first like he started the wrestling element of this which i personally probably we're gonna keep going but i probably wouldn't have done that if i was him given that he only has one arm that works and look at look at smack fucking cook anyway
2:05:14Okay, but here we go
2:05:28Now he's sitting in the chair Now he's fake laughing his ass off Trying to act like he's not mad Look at that dead arm No, no, no. As soon as I did this, you didn't have it. You never had it. You never had it. I'm trying to tell you. Even when he's trying to act tough, he's saying that smack would have hit him. He can't even pretend to be able to defend himself. Anyway, was he out of line? Who was the most out of line in that situation? It seems like they kind of already had agreed to do it. Oh, do you think that was flirting? was that like a little mating dance like you know like when you before you fuck you sort of like do this little cat and mouse game it seemed like didn't it seem like you have pre-planned i don't think it was pre-planned i think that rich trapper though rich trapper seemed thirsty to show off his jujitsu but like he just like which i get because when you do jujitsu it's like you you know how to do this cool thing but it's like realistically you're just not ever going to be able to use it in the real world so he's kind of like geeked up to be able to show like look i can do this cool trick with my legs you know i'm gonna put my balls on your neck i'm gonna i'm gonna give you all an exclusive and uh this is something that there's something that anna munchie already know but like the people don't know yet yeah yeah besides besides that so um i had talked about or i got approached by street tv to the homegirl angie with alex's blessing and like with alex as well to do a pod with rich trapper squashing my static with him or whatever you feel me okay and i was like gonna do it i was thinking back and forth about it um there was pros there was cons of doing it i was leaning towards yes i removed my diss against him that i had like in like not only because i wanted to like reach a broader audience and like have something that like at first that was more palatable to the overall people not just people that know.
2:07:31Oh you mean for the cipher? You did have a bar about him huh? Yeah yeah I took that out. I took that out I mean I know I granted. And then what? What happened? I decided not to do it and then the same day I decided not to do it he's over there wrestling with T-Rail. So you said he would have put you in a little nut hole? I mean it's just like it doesn't make me super excited to do content with this guy. Well because you think he might try to throw a jiu jitsu move on you? My whole thing is it was already like it felt. Yo, get the hell out of here. Yo, if Rich Trapper is the first person to successfully choke somebody out with a jiu-jitsu move on the podcast, he's on Joe Rogan next week.
2:08:08I thought he just did, didn't he? He didn't really sink the choke in. And to be fair, I think Smack probably would have intervened at some point. But Joe Rogan will probably bite on that. And that's the thing. Because I made it clear that that wasn't going to happen. and if that wasn't going to happen like it wasn't going to happen you know what I mean like it ain't going to happen over there yeah it ain't going to happen Alex is just producing I guess you're trying to be mediated right so he went on street tv the other day the same day because this happened on Monday yesterday that same day we were going to So basically you're saying that would have been you and a hell out.
2:08:54It could have been me. It could have been me. It could have been me. That was the energy that he took out, the energy that he wanted to bring to me on Terrell, bro. That's crazy. And he got the fucking raft, dog. And he had to feel his fucking... I think you would have been straight. No, I would have been straight. In that environment, I don't know if you would have caught you at the liquor store, you would have been buying chips. I'm literally... Well, that's the thing. I wasn't going to get caught at the liquor store right there buying chips because I wasn't going to beat you, feel me? like I'm not going to put my situation to get hold of that.
2:09:23Let's go to 7-Eleven after this. I swear if we recreate the fucking or would it be funnier if it's me? It's even better. It's your voice fucking me out. The fucking Indian guy at the desk is going to be like god damn it. This is the valley. Take that back to your hometown. That makes the stock of that shop go to the roof. So the little dudes that little brazen came with, is they from his hood? No. Some of them were, but some of them weren't. The manager guy told me afterwards that the guy that was on camera with him was a Norteno, which I'm not going to lie. Huh? I thought he said he didn't fuck with them.
2:10:05I'm just telling you what I heard, bro. I love blood all over the place. And the shit that's mad confusing to me is because I ain't going to lie. And Shao's saying he's a cool kid and all, but I was getting heavy Norteno vibes. From him? Yeah I can just What are Norteño vibes What do you mean That's like Op vibes They're Mexican And they wear red And they have a tail I got homies That are From up there And shit You feel me Ain't that against the rules For you to have homies up there I'm not like a fucking If anybody You're like a halfway Southsider If anybody If you go to the county jail Right now If you go to the county jail Right now You a resident bro I mean not a resident You ride with the Southside Yeah, exactly.
2:10:48I'm right up with the homies. So ain't that against the rules for you to be having friends up north? It's probably not the best thing. No, we should probably edit that out, right? But no, I don't give a fuck. Like, I'm not a bitch fool. It is what it is. I've lived up there for a long time. I mean, I got to whoop you and Chicka Boo Boo. Nah, because like. You mean love Boo Boo. Nah, nah. This fool gonna get it too. He gonna get it too. Chicka Boo Boo. Nah, it is what it is. It is. Chicka Boo Boo. Nah, so I'm not gonna lie. I know what the fuck they look like. If I see certain haircuts, if I see the way you wear your shirt, if I hear certain language.
2:11:22Oh, so he got North Day energy. Yeah, he's giving super North Day vibes. Yeah, but he probably didn't. It wasn't like it. Because he had the Mongol. He didn't have the Mongol, but he might as well. He might as well. He might as well. You feel me? But he dissed the Southerners, but didn't diss the North. He was dissing the North. He was using that word. Oh, both of them. The Ralph Lauren line that used to be popular back in the day. Not yet. Yeah. C-H-A-P-S. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Which you hear a lot about them if you listen to Tommy Guns, which also I did not realize that was what Buster inferred.
2:11:56That's not the only word. That's really like a youth authority thing, a YA thing. That's the only time you really heard them saying that word. Them saying chap, scrap, and Buster against each other. That's the only time. That was a YA. Tommy Guns is on that. But where he's from, it makes sense. because like why was he writing a buster bitch when he was in the halls fucking one of the apps bitches you feel me and he's shedding your that's dope that's what he did yeah that's what he says in the mic jack that's a fire-ass bar like there's been millions of variations of that concept throughout like wait but are you saying it to me again what do you mean like so he's so he's from up there he's a sereno he's under the i know but why he's writing her so yeah he's writing letters to a bitch he's in juvie but why is he writing letters to a hop because he was fucking on her he had a crush on her but he's just acknowledging that he's down to bang his op girls I think he's still trying to hit because I asked him about it I said who is this one chick that used to ride in the halls but the thing is okay so when I first just to emphasize what you just said when I first moved to the bay I didn't know what that was in 2001 I was 19 years old I didn't know what an artennial was I've been to juvie I've been to, you feel me, placement and all that, but I never been to YA or whatever.
2:13:18I never heard of a Norteño, bro. I swear to God, bro, I didn't know what it was. I think we need to make a trip up north to connect with our Norteño brothers. I got homies all through. I will not bring O 'Brazy. So my first year up there, and I say this all the time, was probably the most I actually had physical fights in my entire life because I just smelled and looked like LA. Motherfuckers knew what time it was. So I'm at the BART station And I'm here. That's the first time I hear these words that you feel me. And I was like, what? And I knew like, yeah, okay. So I'm getting down and I'm like, wind up clicking up with homies from up there.
2:13:56Homies from a, you feel me? Bonar block. You're right off of uni. You feel me? West side of Berkeley. Bonar block is crazy. LOL. Fucking hell. You feel me? And the North days was around the corner and it was a whole thing. And I wound up eventually when I'm up there, I'll learn how to wiggle a little bit. I'm like, you know what? this ain't really a significant part of my life to where I can't just be cool with everybody. You feel me? Like I'm a tiger fool from the West side. Yeah. I know where the fuck I fall in line when I got fucking to, had to go to Santa Rita and all that. I, yeah, it was what it was.
2:14:27And they tried to get me to peace. That's a whole bunch of other shit. Question. Question. What? The motherfuckers. What? If you get locked up. Try to get you to. All right. Question. Question. Do you think that Tommy guns thinks the gay Tommy guns AI video is funny? I think, I mean, he's got it. Have you guys seen this? You can't think it's not funny. They made like an AI gay version of a Tommy Gunn song, and it was like pretty viral on Instagram. Tommy Gunn, that's the little North Day catch you interviewed. Not North Day. He's from Central Valley, but he's a southern stutter. Yeah, yeah, but no.
2:15:00What about the, he got a super op now. Like, what's that dude named? Fucking Demon from the Ginger Kid from Washington. I don't know. You haven't seen him? Top Rank Demon. Wait, that's his op? He's like the most viral in Norteno right now. For real? Top-ranked demon? I don't know about him yet. Yeah, he's from Washington. That's all that's up there. There's a lot of other things up there in Washington, too. There for sure is. Top-ranked demon. Certified demon. So he just was down here. Oh, I know this kid. He was down here. He made a video. You feel me? I think he was at Malibu Beach or whatever.
2:15:39And one of his homies, they have red on that shit but they low-key like hiding it you feel me they like trying to be low-key then he just uploaded a video of him in venice like he's out here like i don't really know about all that shit like i would i really wouldn't advise people to be uh coming with that type of negative energy thank you uh to out here in southern cali yeah you're really putting yourself in a box you could be from up there like i have homies that are north days that are cool bro and they're not like trying to invite that in their life it is like you feel me like but wait the top rank demon diss Tommy Guns?
2:16:12I mean he's like the yeah he didn't diss him but there's a hell of comparisons and people are putting them side by side like all the hood pages are saying like this is a matter of time before they diss if they haven't you feel me because they for sure don't fuck with each other even though their hoods will never cross paths like they embody what each other dislike the most for sure okay question for everybody at this table since you guys all make at least some money from YouTube outside of No Jumper what was your thoughts when you saw the leaked screenshots showing that Back on Fig makes $7 ,500 a month on YouTube divided amongst three people it's gotta be a slow month right I don't know you're inclined to cut them some bail it was 1.7 million views which I think is like regular for them did that strike you i was like damn a low number would you have thought it would have been a high number i thought it would have been higher than that yeah significantly higher i think the problem is the live streaming shit just is not like a view on a 15 minute video that you make monetize and then upload the money from that is always going to be better than a live stream view jay ken where are you at but also jay ken those numbers include donations because i believe at one point they were making a ton of money from donations it seems like that's kind of slowed up that's what i'm saying but where's jay ken at i think they scared jay ken i think like uh pun like confronted him you know you know you know somebody came at me about about this this part right here so before i came up here man some random dude hopped in my dm and i don't even know why the hell i'll be even answering random dm sometimes but he just hopped in there like oh yeah, you're supposed to be cool with T-Rail and Smack, and you're going to no jump in the day, and you're in a segment about them being broke.
2:18:12So I'm like, man, what the hell? I said, hey, look, bro, get out of my DM. What are you even in my DM? Yeah. Bro, what are you talking about? I don't have a dog in this fight. I'm being an objective journalist. Yeah. I don't have a dog in this fight. I have no issue with T-Rail. This is weird, man. Yeah, no, I mean, look, I could objectively say that seeing that discouraged me from wanting to go balls to the wall with this youtube thing because i thought maybe i could keep building my channel and i'd have a lucrative future but you see 1.7 million views that's kind of a pie in the sky number yeah and realizing that it still wouldn't be like a crazy amount of money shit that's discouraging to me i ain't gonna lie it kind of struck me as funny because he definitely has done streams where i know i did the whole broke narrative and everything but he's really like gleefully called me broke at times so i'm not gonna lie i did take a little bit a sick pleasure so maybe it comes from just him primarily just knowing lies and then it would be pre-recording right exactly but they do put up clips and shit too okay and and then this is just back on big not fig munity as well right but back on figs low-key a bigger channel than fig munity i want to say like or am i tripping like i think they probably honestly do like around the same number of views but yeah maybe fig munity is smaller a little bit if i had to guess i would guess that the ace boys and the community channel probably both make more money than that honestly i had a lot of people tapping in with me that were kind of like damn i got more money than t-rel like even treyway hit me up it was like was like damn i got more money than that motherfucker it's been in jail for like four years oh man i was older music videos i feel like it was like encouraging for a lot of people to realize that like oh some of these people who are out here acting like they're doing super good in life are really kind of because to me when you take into account the cost of the space that they film out of, having an employee that helps them shoot and film the content and everything, from my estimation, that basically means they're podcasting for free.
2:20:16So let me ask this question. So if I look you up on Forbes right now, is Forbes going to give me an estimate, like a real estimate of what you worth of everything? Is it going to be like a real estimate? Is there an Out in 22 Forbes article online? There's for sure a celebrity net worth of you. I would love to know. There's for sure a celebrity, but normally those things are pretty inaccurate. So I say that to say with $4 million celebrity network, honestly, I have no fucking clue. Smart answer. Smart answer. Smart app for sure. With that, I'm saying, a lot of people that usually get put on Forbes, where you hear their number, a lot of people be like, bro, that's not alright, that's what Forbes said, like, bro, I got more money, I got more money than that or I got more stuff in the case, maybe or even less.
2:21:11They said I was worth over a million, I'm like, y 'all tripping. Yeah. Okay, so bam. What about your catalog though? Yeah, my catalog. Yeah, so you don't know what type of shit endorsements or what a motherfucker got going on just to be like, a motherfucker broke. Nah, that right there was just saying what he do off the pop. So social play it. Well, I think other revenue streams would be... Sponsorship? Sponsorships, but I don't know if he really has any of those, really. He has a PrizePix logo. I don't know if that's a game changer. He got PrizePix for so. Wasn't Stizzy sponsoring them at one point?
2:21:51At one point, but not anymore, I think. I feel like they had a bunch of sponsors in the beginning, and they kind of fell by the wayside. Yo, I got to ask this before I forget. how do you feel about snoop dog commenting on the clip of you rapping snoop like fuck with me for real like so i can't really like that's like i i know like obviously that freesaw video i i was awful in it so of course how are you gonna say you're awful that's like your favorite verse you've said that verse in like mad time i've never said that that's like your default verse That's the default verse that he had wrapped. I thought he just said it was trash, but this was like when I was like fucked up freestyling.
2:22:31To me, I didn't think of it as like any different than like Lush. Like Lush maybe doesn't have the best rap voice, but Lush is an elite rapper. Lush, like in terms of his words that he puts together, he is top tier from my perspective. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. appropriate clock is right twice a day. I got my moments. A little grating. But, with that being said, yeah, no. A suspect got the county with a pocket knife. no. I'm only trying to. Don't give it away. You can't leak bars. No. That's an old bar. That's gone. Oh, that's gone. Oh, that's gone. Did you hear the new one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no.
2:23:16I liked the old one, too. Honestly, I liked the old one. I didn't dislike the whole one. I liked the whole one, too. It was cool. I just felt like I had to. We got to get this goddamn cipher done this week. Okay, so here's the thing about. I'm on Bell's ass. I'm not worried about. Bell said he was down. Flacco said he was down. Brandon already said he's ready. And then Unk. And then Unk is the wild card. Yeah. But we can't be waiting on him. If we get the other three. Unk got to do this whole verse, man. Because Unk, he's going to say some bullshit. That's going to piss everybody off, bro. Yo, if Unk this is any hoods, I'm deleting it from...
2:23:50I'm bleeping it. It could diss 4X or something. No, I'm bleeping this shit. Don't diss nobodyhood. No, for sure. Yeah, we gonna see it. I don't want to be on a song with someone who's doing that. Don't even reference the Bloods or Crips, the BDs, GDs, Vice Lords. I will say that the one that we have thus far with the four motherfuckers that's on it go pretty crazy, bro. I feel like it's... So who the four... Oh, it's all three in Rafi. Yeah. Okay. That shit is hard. Did your heart rate go up when you saw that Snoop had left a laughing emoji on a video of you rapping for... like did it affect your mental state no it's like the thing is you gotta understand how viral that's like that's like that's cemented as one of the worst freestyles of all time so it's like all the other contexts all the other like i can say whatever i want about it don't matter that's just a part of history it is what it is it's a part of it it just it's part of my an origin story and when i wind up you feel me like um unleashing um hypothetical school shooter lush you feel me we all know why moments like you spazzed you feel me like i didn't think it was as a i didn't think it was gonna have as many as much legs as it did uncle snoop with a garbage emoji was definitely a fucking blow to the gut oh it was a garbage emoji not a laughing emoji i think he did both i mean i feel like suspect was really the star of the show to be honest though like if we're being honest like um he was a star of the show but like snoops had a lot of terrible freestyles that are objectively like shots fired if we're being honest can we find it yeah i think it'd be like all you'd have to do is look up snoop dog freestyle and probably the first thing that so you're saying you're saying that you're saying snoop dog top 10 la rappers of all time One of the most legendary rappers of all time Also kind of sucks No I'm just saying like Throw him under the bus I'm just saying I'm an amazing freestyler And I've had some bad moments Off the dome freestyling Although he did it for the majority of his first couple albums It's not exactly like the height of lyricism Like we fuck with Snoop because of his steez Because of his like you feel me Like his flow Like he's never been known for the bars so like well you know the thing with snoop he just he ain't really saying he's fizzle dizzle jizzle like they ain't like he ain't not rhyming a real word exactly so if he run out of shit like exactly now adam dizzle adam they can ask you i've never really heard too many like great lyricists say anything oh my god not okay right now embarrassing I am susker.
2:26:32You ready to have to prove me? You say so, buddy. Wait, what happened? See, this was Buzzball Lush. If you say so, buddy. Did you keep the amount of laugh? Wait, did you already just do the thing where you went? Off the dome. I think that I already had. I was freestyling. I was fucking freestyling. See, like, the odds were really stacked against the player. Sorry to apologize. Yeah, but it was already that before. It's all good. I'm just saying, BuzzFall Lush never would have happened. Drinking a Pepsi is crazy. Here we go.
2:27:10That beat's kind of weird. I do deserve to get laughed after this. I'm not going to lie. This is not tight. You ain't got nothing else? Bro, just give it up. Try to put it on. Just give it up. What? What? What? What? still thugging gym dug and wrestle a bitch the metal i grip while i'm like the settlement hit bright angel on my wrist and the bezel on hit gold roses the flower bed buffs i know how to flex papalani wet like the sour shat's how i get activated every time i'm mosey in the function five fingers up for the homies that i've run with uh be the case yesterday Warrior had a feast, eat every plate, pepper steak Pete, you a vegan, I'm a legend of a Neemans, I'm a keeper like a secret Damn, fluke slammer with a new scam, Bruce Banner how I do things, new change, shoe gang, blue king kicks it fly, she got hypnotized, got Diana in the mood, rain princess, I get a knife strictly hide it gloom when I ride German engineering, when I play a reppin' buy when it's reppin' time, no dip set I got the pesticide for insects, get in line to invest, add it up bitch, add it up bitch, add it up bitch you add it up bitch You did a hook and bleeding in That's a real song right here It's that bad Used to skip math class But I still as fast Learned from the work Wanna bag that Bag that Terrorized the ops They were paralyzed by cops Running from the johnnies Like a marathon across country Poked me Do I look like Travis Barker But I get some drums clapping It wasn't that bad there I could have held that shit Yeah there was some like We could have held that shit But it wasn't that bad though It wasn't that bad after you start falling out.
2:28:49You, there's some games in there. Hold on, hold on. What made you hood, though? Oh, no, you know what it was? Is because like, it didn't fit the beat, the flow, so I had to create a little bit of space right there. What you were saying, it wasn't garbage or nothing. You could have delivered it better, but that, that, it wasn't as bad as, that's what I'm saying. It was, I was definitely put in an unfavorable situation, but BuzzFall Lush, what a Rosalie occasion. But you're supposed to speak up and like, I don't like this big, because that, that's for sure, a suspect beat. That was like a almighty type beat.
2:29:22Is he actually out? Is he doing anything? Are we seeing him in public? Not as of yet. I've tried to reach out a couple times. He's very mysterious. He's in his cardi era. I think he wants to make the pop back impactful. For sure he's coming with a first day out. With a knife in the video? that's gotta be they gotta have a straight jacket that's a classic he's gotta like pick the straight jacket and like free himself from it with a pocket knife yeah he gotta have like a fake frosty in the video he runs down on him
2:30:05you see how I just created directed this whole thing
2:30:18the realest shit ever is if those guys made a song or even did an ep together the whole la classic would love it all right that shit was funny because bringing matt north up here that day too though because you know matt north is that little beef but i'd like to tell him i'm like neither one of y 'all you know y 'all not about to do nothing i don't give a fuck what little gerb shit y 'all got going. Gerb drama is crazy. I know Frosty is talking to C. Y 'all not about to do that shit on my watch. I love how everybody got a story about Frosty, Diamond, and Dashing. Are your ad campaigns lighting up the dashboard, but not the pipeline?
2:30:52That's bull spend. And marketers are calling it out in Dashboard Confessions. My boss asked for results, so I opened my dashboard for the only positive-sounding metric I had. Impressions. Cut the bull spend. See revenue? not just reach. LinkedIn delivers the highest return on ad spend of major ad networks. Advertise on LinkedIn. Spend$250 on your first campaign and get a$250 credit. Go to linkedin.com slash campaign. Terms and conditions apply. Yeah, that's true. There has been much. It's like his number one hustle. Hey, I'll tell the story. Cheesecake factory. Did fools use the word Gerbert out there when you were in Canada?
2:31:31Did you hear any Gerberts? I didn't hear any Gerberts. I heard a lot of Crody. A lot of Crody's. Bear. you know all the uk shit say crowdy i was like well what's this about no for real i'm like i just think hey man you thought he was banging i think he's like on some crip sympathizer kind of off subject man what's up with the what's up with the elder what's up with the g homie man who coming out trying to smash oh yeah he said we bound perspective we we we we sellouts me and a sellouts and we lesser than black. So who is this that said that? And he was fighting. He'd been trying to challenge you to a celebrity boxing match.
2:32:08He a crackhead from Compton. A crackhead? Yeah, he a crackhead from Compton. You don't have to say his name, but somebody tell me his name in the chat. I ain't gonna go that far because I was trying to be respectful, but it was just funny that he hopped out. But I mean, I say you got your opinion about him and you can have your opinion because he came for you. But like I said, as far as me, personally, somebody had told me about it and then I really I didn't trip off of it and then right off the back one of the supporters sent me a clip and I'm watching the clip and he oh yeah that aunt when Munchie B let him say this is the aunt just sitting there and then he did this with my homie this and that and that and yeah they sellouts and this and that and I'm like what the fuck what specifically but like what's the main thing he's referring to I'm talking about fact man I don't even know like nigga what are you talking about this factual about Aunt Hefe why is my name even in your mouth because you mad at Munchie B.
2:33:00Look, this is what he really mad at. He mad at Munchie B in a 607 Unc situation, I'm saying, versus Munchie B and the BZ, the homie from Santana situation. I'm like, nigga, I wasn't even on the internet back then when that shit even happened. What the fuck you on? My name is in your mouth anyway. Are you mad because you see me on No Jumper? I'm a sellout. So motherfuckers is just saying anybody that goes sit at the table with no jumper, you are set out. No, no, no, no. What he's basically saying is he mad because he said I handled the don't cuss me situation differently than this one, right? He said I should have been all over his ass.
2:33:39And Hefe, he's talking about a character. No, no, you're just selling out. Oh, this internet should get into your head. So he's saying Young Am was trying to give me a way out by saying that, oh boy, he's a character. But he instantly apologized. and we're lesser than black. Lesser than black is a crazy declaration. Yeah, that's what he's like. And he said, fuck them brothers. Yeah, oh yeah, some dudes just pulled up on me today. I was in LA, they told me like, yeah, oh yeah man, I don't even watch you. I don't get a head fade no more, man. He went on no jumper. And I don't give a fuck about who don't watch what.
2:34:16They're like, what the fuck? I just said, bro, listen, bro, if I sold out your bar You bought crack, bro. Yeah, you feel me? If I saw that, you bought crack. Because that's how I feel. I'm like, if we going to take it there, talking about lesser than man than black, like, nigga, I ain't never did no drug, never did nothing detrimental to this cripping, and I held weight in water every time, and I definitely ain't smoked no crack. He bought crack. I've been a seller, definitely ain't smoked it. So it's like, I feel like if you tell me, you lesser man for smoking crack, because obviously whatever demon festered on you, got you smoking that pipe shit.
2:34:48It's not exactly a sign of discipline. He said he lost respect for me and that. But who cares? I want to see it so bad. Crackhead, huh? I want to see it so bad. No, no, no, no. Don't play that shit right now. Yeah, yeah. You got to play that shit right now. No, hell no. The Brackheads get no play this way. No Brackheads. Because you'll be a sellout, right? Because you'll be on Adam's platform. Right, Brackhead? And then. He trying to get a message. He trying to get a message to Adam. No, no, no. Adam got the message, but he want to fade with Adam. But see, if Adam with your ass, I'm going to feel bad because I carried the message that he want to fade and we black brothers and the white man beat your ass.
2:35:33Spoiler. Random guy. I'm not going to fight you. Yeah, but why though? Why does he want Adam's fade? I don't know. This is what I don't understand. Why motherfuckers keep on coming with this narrative about sellout and culture vulture? like let's just go with it there look if you come to a motherfucking table where a motherfucker can be a vulture or for you you a grown-ass man that's what i don't be understanding like motherfuckers be mad talking about oh this person this person like man i don't be i'll be mad at the wrong people and i got something to say about the culture vulture thing i've been doing hip-hop content for 10 years i was doing bmx content for 10 years before that i put on a lot of some of the biggest artists of the last 10 years interviewed them in their infancy and have created content that i believe will resonate throughout the annals of hip-hop forever you can dislike me as a person but you cannot deny that my contribution has been fairly stellar now like jerry when somebody calls me a culture vulture usually almost every time i feel like my stripes in the game outdo theirs so i would just like to say suck my dick okay back to the pod honestly um i think that a lot of people a lot of the people they want to get on no jumper and the quickest way they try to do it is by pissing No Jumper.
2:37:09And that's the shit that... And maybe I could talk it out later on No Jumper. Yeah. Type shit. Like, and that's the thing that's super confusing to me. It's like... I just don't understand why the dude came for me and then this is another not to cut you off, but excuse me. No, you're good. Where the fuck all these people just be getting this, like, because I'll be hearing all these fucking weirdos. Whoever been following Young N. Hefe, go back, if it's still up, go back to my fucking earliest most video. yo, where the fuck do you people get off to saying that I came on the fucking internet preaching peace?
2:37:41I didn't come on no fucking internet preaching peace. What the fuck is y 'all talking about, man? Y 'all got me fucked all the way up, bro. No, no, no, no, no, no. Like on God, I don't know where y 'all get that shit from. When that shit was in the air because I am, you know what I'm saying, a strong supporter of my community, bro. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, and I was back in one of my Conrads and something that was spoke that was mutual between two sides and a certain few members. But, bro, y 'all that we talking about that I came on the internet preaching peace and now I'm doing other content, bro.
2:38:14Y 'all ain't been watching me, man. And shut the fuck up. But also, did you start doing content after you had already been out the fans and all that? Man, I just started doing content last year, like late July. Bro, it's coming up on a year, bro, like late July. And my first content, it shit had nothing to do with peace. My shit had something to do with Brick Baby speaking my name. You know what I'm saying? Speaking the wrong shit, you feel me? Like, I wasn't even interested in podcasting. Like, I originally started this shit, like, on some rap shit for, like, my rap page. But I just ended up starting doing the content.
2:38:46But everybody, oh, yeah, you was doing peace at first. Now you're doing all this crazy content. I'm like, what the fuck is y 'all talking about, bro? Can we not watch this clip of Wack allegedly exposing his police badge? Is that real? I haven't seen this yet, but let's see this. Who then told him that? Because nigga, his statement... Okay, they're saying you can see a badge in his wallet. It's like towards the end of the video.
2:39:18Hey, pause it. Freeze it. That's not at the part right now. I don't really. You can kind of see it right there, but there's a clearer image at the end. It's kind of like a low quality video in general. I get paranoid whenever there's music. It seems sus for sure. Right. Why would he have a badge even if he was a cop? Right? Like, even, like, it's like, people think that he could be a snitch. But that's different than being a cop. Like, why would he have a badge? I agree. But what else could it be, though? Like, give us some options. It's like the same thing with 600 come up with a badge or showing something.
2:39:56It's like, oh, that ain't the police. That's different, though. He deliberately showed that. I'm talking about this is a slip up. But I don't think whatever Wack got is a badge. Well, he's a slipper. What? What the fuck is he talking about? If he was a cop, you think he's just like taking the risk of carrying around a badge with him all the time? There's no way. His biggest secret. If he sees some other police, he might have to show it. Oh, come on. He's not a cop. Like, if you're a cop, you're on record as a cop. You can't be like a secret cop. Give us some options. We can swap it out. What resemble that you carry in your pocket?
2:40:37To me, it was like a very unclear image. I didn't really see anything. Give us some options, though. What else could it be? The option is it could be like a fake edited image. It could be a what? A fake edited image. Oh, it could be edited? Yeah. It could be a fake image or it's a badge in his wallet. Let me bring it optimistic and just throwing things out there. No, no. There's two things. It could literally be one of two things. Some people be telling y 'all they mastered this shit, man. They be doing some shit, man. Oh, so you think he might have been a play? Man. I just don't really see a badge.
2:41:08Could definitely be a play. No, that ain't a play. Because he's been trying to defend this OCST2 back in this shit. Why would he play like this? There's too many snitches out here. We would have been knew the snitches had badges. They got some type of, like, special badges. Like, when they get pulled over, look, floss your badge, you one of us. Nah, I don't think the man would have a badge. I just want to know what else could it be, though. I'm not saying that's a badge. I don't even think that's a badge, but what is you carrying around that shiny in your pocket? A fucking lifetime pass to fucking Adventureland Disneyland?
2:41:38Like what? It literally looks like... If this is a game show, I would not want you to be on my team. A lot of people in the chat think that he's intentionally trolling, and they think it is a badge. So, people think it really is a badge. Would Wack do that? Yeah. With all the stigma around it, why would he play with it? Would he play with it? I think so. you know better than me I just think he would troll like that he's done way worse but didn't we just talk about this last week on the pod being a heel 101 lean into it whatever they say about you whatever like they're using to vilify you he's in a heel arc right now he's like fuck it oh you want to say this about me let me imply it fuck what a bunch of people said I think his heel arc has been many years long he's gonna forever be the villain ever forever he's comfortable in that place not really no you know how people seem like they happy with something they really like I could imagine that I felt like on the last Adam and Wack show like there was a you guys it seemed like both of y 'all were really blaming the Uncan 4Xers thing on me or yeah yeah that's how I felt I didn't think that that's not what I was thinking watching it I felt like did you you know forced yourself into the conversation not really but also felt like it would have been i mean you're talking about two people who essentially never stopped talking unk and forextra like the fact that they were even allowing each other to speak at all was kind of crazy considering how much they don't do that and the fact that like unk felt like he was not getting a chance to talk at all because forextra kept going on these long rants i don't know i mean i feel like it's it's a very difficult position to try to He always say, can I talk?
2:43:26Can I talk? That's that's a thing. When he does talk, a lot of times it's like completely off subject. And then you kind of understand why people aren't really like dying to let you talk sometimes. Well, the conversation is just going a completely different direction. Well, people like Brandon does the same thing, too. Right. Oh, yeah. That's why them two together was like fireworks. But to me, ultimately, like not that good. Oh, let me hear your response, actually, Adam, because Brandon was very vocal about you. on the pod saying what like well he was like uh adam adam's afraid to pod with me because uh i'm the smartest person in the room he said this on no jumper news the other day being the smartest person in the room doesn't necessarily make you the best podcaster and i agree that brandon is really really smart but also clearly his approval rating is not as high as some other people on the chat now he's very polarizing and to me he does create good content however there's a lot of people who said that they were going to stop watching the podcast for after many years as a result of his presence so i'm not saying that i'm off brandon or whatever that he'll never be on the podcast i even thought about having him on today but i mean yeah like he is very polarizing it's almost like i think he's good personally it's almost like the brandon stuff should be its own thing not not like just him but that that should be like a reoccurring thing but not the no jumper show because it turns the no jumper show into something that i feel like a pretty decent percentage of the fans are not really into now i do feel like this four really needs a fifth i feel like there's something missing if it's not going to be on i still feel like there's something to be said there so i mean i'm definitely not like done building out the cast on the podcast in general as well as the fact that I'm open to like creating more podcasts on here as we end up with more and more hosts but Brandon was like very adamant also about you being specifically afraid to have those high power conversations and someone that's going to challenge you he says that you know no one at this table challenges you that he's the only one that would I mean to be honest like that's I don't like that's the type of type I don't like because you can't say that don't nobody challenge Adam like we not even having challenging conversations now that's something his diversity do bring he may bring a challenge to a conversation but we not having intense conversations you the one to make the conversations intense and you can't just say here and insert yourself and say you smart because you breeding some context book shit or you coming and searching shit out of the book I'm gonna fucking read a book and quote it front to back and because you don't know it I'm talking about I'm smarter than you on the motherfucking subject you don't know who you smarter than you yeah you talk proper and all that got the proper dialogue and dialect but you guys come on bro that's not even stupid to say oh I'm the smartest person in the room like who the fuck says that that's like some square ass shit like where the fuck we at and there's no real actual but there's also no depended proof that he's the most intelligent either like we haven't taken an iq test there's nothing that can really i i do think he's super intelligent obviously when it comes to like history and politics and stuff he's like very well read i'm not taking that away from at all i'm just saying that doesn't always 100 correlate with being a person that people want to watch on a podcast that being said i do believe in him and i do think he has a future i just feel like this show is a weird fit for him and i feel like a large percentage of the fans would probably agree with that.
2:47:11Yeah, we all can bogart a conversation. It's just like, you know, you know, you insert yourself, you know, you very opinionated to where like other people might be more laid back, but like, oh, challenging, like shit, what's been a challenge? Hey, Brandon, my question to you is, why would somebody don't agree with your stance? They dumb. No, you're just dumb. No, for real, like, I know some ain't smarter than others, but you know, I'm like, damn. You're just dumb. And then if it's something I feel need to be challenged, I'm going to challenge it. For sure. Oh, God. Do you also feel like how much of it is the fact that Brandon tends to make everything about race and history as well?
2:47:55I feel like that's a big thing that I see complaints from is people just saying that he makes everything about race and they're sick of it. Well, those are his favorite things to discuss. He's in that sphere of YouTube. so it's like and i get that race is very salient very relevant for many conversations for sure i just feel like i read a preponderance of comments saying that he over discusses that stuff really i see i see people say about viral in general too hey hey i i like i like viral i like i like viral for real because i like the thing with the uh I already know what this guy is getting a couple of their recent the reason why I'm guessing is because I haven't seen a couple of their recent appearances because I was on the road so I just want to clarify when I give my opinion I'm going to give my honest opinion if I dislike the person and if they music good it's good you know what I'm saying I don't even know what led up to that that clip where y 'all was talking about podcasters no the state team thing whatever like Like, he was making good points.
2:49:01You know what I'm saying? And he wasn't wrong. I guess he had said, but for the reason why that happened, I guess he had made a comment beforehand. So he wanted to have that same energy in person. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want to touch on it because it's automatically like I'm biased when it comes to that. But then, with the WAC thing, he was challenging WAC and made WAC explain himself. You know what I'm saying? About his gang, even though he didn't want to hear the whole trucker shit over again. but he was like I went 16 I didn't have a mindset as a game beggar at 19 it was done I'm like damn that was easy but then Viral said man you can't be on the podcast saying Piru all day I said oh this shit crazy oh you're talking about me now I forgot a lot of people were like kind of wild by a lot of people were saying that I was like pulling his card on that I didn't think it was that bad I didn't think it was anything out of the ordinary you gotta hold him he's like you can't be saying you was a gangbanger for some shit 30 years ago listen my point is not that you can't talk about it my point was just like you did like 5 years or whatever it was and it's been like 30 years to me it's like you bring it up a lot but isn't that equivalent to being like I was in Desert Storm back in the day no me like the guy invaded we invaded iraq i was there homies got chips we smoked this fool you're gonna hold on to that 30 40 my homies that were in afghanistan he held on to three years or four or five years but let that shit go that should be like a short-ass burst really though like but don't you feel like if a dude brings up his war stories like literal war like being in afghanistan over and over he just comes off like a fucking jarhead weirdo yeah yeah we would all look at that dude like damn that dude's mad annoying to be around he just fucking talks about being in desert storm all the time no i got a homie that if you do coke with him all night like by five in the morning he starts busting i love more footage i'm like nah gee
2:51:07footage yes dog i didn't even go a lot of i'm a shot to the homie that's like we used to have a dude that we worked with who at the store who would just like be showing us his football highlights all the time and he was probably like 27 or some shit and he's just showing us these clips of being 17 all the time tighter than football no it's like just one time i scored a touchdown it's like bro like nobody gives a fuck at all yeah you fucking suck dude and it's like it's fake as high school too it's like so not that prestigious yeah you're like still in like like college is way more lit well it's hard to make d1 yeah like play college ball like i'm not it's actually pretty hard to play high school ball in la but still I wish I could do another hour but I have to I have to dip I'm sorry I gotta go home I just got back from Toronto I appreciate you guys I'm down I'm good man shout out let's do the super chat good idea
2:52:09shout out to all the members and all the supporters there's buzz for you player I know we didn't read the things last time, and we are deeply apologetic for that. Here you go. Unless you're going to have to use that mouse. Okay, that's right. Stay up, mate. Appreciate you. I feel like my Brandon voice is similar to the South Park Michael Jackson. That's ignorant. Not that scary. Dante Burns Lawn Landing Taj Sims The Pressure House Podcast Dwight Williams and Max Ware Thank you for your membership We got Awesome Austin with Why sauce talking shit about you Adam He just dipped bro we could have discussed That I would have actually liked to hear that Lush Lush CSI Miami Looking out thank you Zay stay You are not lying The Rogue Index yo Lush down two buzz balls right now.
2:53:05Stop being a little girl. I got you. You know what, fool? For the culture, I'm going to down this remaining buzz ball real quick. Thank you for the super chat. God damn. Damn. He heard that go. It's the commercial. Buzzer beater clips. Shout out to Adam for not titling this stream about Sorrell getting nuts put on his shoulder. they can't say you haven't matured I promise you I'm glad that didn't happen as well black sector mafia said it's true that Adam us FBA's got the worst parts of meat and had to make them safe to eat and taste good rare meat is too close to rot to us not safe regardless I'm definitely a fan of steak that's cooked properly and I'm sorry that's where as much as I'm like a part of black culture that's where I gotta draw the line guys You guys with your well done steaks
2:54:07Remigio Martinez Wax showed his badge in his wallet live on SBGBTV Damn $5 for AI069 Hit the shot on college GD's Brick or Glaze Donut BD's B-Boy I just dissed somebody in My bad bro Stupid How do you feel about Wax accidentally flashing an alleged badge while talking to Snoopy badass. Bit on Lush, Op Rip Trapper page for reference. That's your op player. Stoic with 5 said, did y 'all get a parental permission slip for Lil Brazy? Did y 'all see Z-Rail get his man who took by Rich Trapper? It didn't look as crazy as people making it out to be. It was kind of weird though. I ain't going to lie. Black Sector Mafia also said, bring Unk back, add to his pay whatever you pay, Bucci Bear and Kompah kick them off.
2:55:02We would rather have Unk than them. That's funny because we were talking about how this could potentially be just a money play for Unk to negotiate more money. That's what I've been saying. Remember? Yeah, I think that's a good narrative right there. Trying to hold out. I think you're right spot on there, Munchie B. So, Kay Bowen said, hey, Adam, you see the news last week. Brandon was saying you secretly hate him because you got on the Tuesday show. What an idiot because you're not on the Tuesday show. What an idiot. We just talked about that. So how was it Was it broken down to Brandon Like he got booted off to the Tuesday show No So why are you saying that Because he hasn't been on since Okay And I think he was surprised because the numbers were really good So he's like how come I'm not on there The people like it He's doing good He'd feel like he'd be discriminated against And the thing is like Brandon is actually really good I ain't gonna lie But I think this is the same energy I've seen from a lot of people.
2:55:58I saw from sharp in the past. I saw from T rail. People really want to be on this show that we on right now. You feel me? They really, cause it's like, this is, I don't know if y 'all realize this party all being here, but this considered the main show on no jumper. Oh, I could tell by the name. Yeah. The no jumper show. You feel me? And it's the, the one that this fool is on, not the one that, so everybody always wanted to be, get the most views like, and historically always has with a few exceptions. So people is always like, oh, yeah, I want to be a part of that. So when they when you are and they not, they're going to find reasons why you feel me to say some shit.
2:56:33Um, so he said, doesn't Flacco make the brand look bad all the time, lying on all of you for content and now trying to beef with Jay-Z? If Flacco's powerful enough to get beef with Hova, I say go for it, brother. That's like powerful. It never happened. Yeah, you feel me? Even though I wouldn't want beef with Hova personally, like, shouts at you if you're that lit. Black Sector Mafia also said, Adam said he don't want no jumper to be used to spread fake narratives, but let Swag do it every Sunday, calling people rats. and gang, et cetera, with no proof. Who said that? Black sector mafia. Shout out to him.
2:57:09Agree. I agree. So, I mean, like... Black spreading fake narratives every week. But we keep pushing those. He gonna, regardless, spread the narratives he spread, whether or not it's on no jumper, right? Nah, but it's coming from... No, it's interesting. Yeah, so it's ironic, just like you said, it was ironic with my situation and yours. Type shit, type shit. With the two S words. Okay, you understand. Zay Wap said, what's good, gang? He's a member for 32 months. Damn, that's a long-ass time player. Peeperspecs, what do y 'all think about Wack showing his badge? Everybody keeps saying that. We appreciate the donos, though.
2:57:49This is the first time I heard about it. This guy also, this next dude said, man, the hot topic is Wack 100 badge. He said it twice. You feel me? Should I say eat up or down? That name sounds crazy. So he said, let's do the drug test right now. if you fail you got a pie with foe extra why would i be afraid like i'm not afraid to pie with foe extra or anybody i've never had a i'm if y 'all see i'm the guy that goes everywhere and be outside and chopps it chops it up with everybody bro like i'm clearly uh not a scary leery uh daniel blackton but he got the x he got the c whacked out you feel me uh that's how i read it he said Wack accidentally showed his police badge while on live and Lush aka Just Glaze when you go pull him to Alex Alonzo I've already been to Alex Alonzo and I'm down to pull back up but I'm a little hesitant to do the Rich Trapper Rich Trapper pod after the maneuver I seen him pull today I feel like that was intended for me you know what I mean like I feel like hey he's gonna have to try he's gonna have to try them people got to talking about fighting I mean, them people got the...
2:58:57But at the same time, Stranglehold is Gleek. You feel me? Because like... And that's what I don't want. I don't want no parts of a boxing... Oh, here? Oh, so... If there's someone that signs up with me that makes sense, that got a problem with me and we need to run it, we can run it across the street. You feel me? Nah, Rich Trapper, Wade, like, bro, he a whole... What are you talking about, bro? He a fighter. He can box his Gleek. You feel me? Fuck that shit. Rich Trapper gets no fade. You feel me? Ever in life. I'll never fight him. You feel me? And if that was a little... Just patch it up, man.
2:59:33Are you willing to? I'm willing to, but I don't have to patch anything. No, you ain't got a new lady. You a grown man. I'm not saying that to you aggressively. I'm just saying like... But I'm not like... Because if it came down to it, I'm very secure with who I am or where I'm at. But I don't... Look, bro. My bad I called you gay, bro. You was talking stupid ass shit first, fool. You feel me? That's it. You feel me? We can be cool. you feel me like i know you're not gay bro you get more pussy than me i promise you you feel me like it's all good bro you feel me stoic the pattern is when the show is at 4 p.m let's just i spoke on the news um the news is closer or sober he had all day to get high lol pass him and he did you feel me we lit player appreciate you gang five uh dollars from jesse jones there wouldn't be rap music without white people i mean that's a stupid ass thing to say you feel me nah There wouldn't be rap music without the people that created it.
3:00:23Black people, fool. White people helped bring it to the masses. Shouts to white people for that. But come on, bro. Fuck you, Jesse Jones. What the fuck is he talking about? Stoey for$5 said, nah, hell no. Let Munchie break down the badge footage. Let's shut the fuck up. How's it AI? What is the live? I knew it wasn't AI, dumbass. Can you feel me? Below 44 said the Long Beach dudes are awful. I agree. No, I'm just playing. And they used to talk hell and shit about Adam and the platform. Fact check everything. think Bucci says he's not smart. Nah, Bucci's smart, you feel me? So he said, can you make Brandon pop a faux extra if he does good?
3:00:57He gets his own show on Saturdays. If not, he's saying packing. I think that would be dope. That's a lot of energy. I'll carry them together. Jay-Z, thank you for your membership. I can't read what it says. Hey, can you read what it says? Does it say something or not? If the person in the room doesn't usually have to say it over and over. The smartest person in the room, baby. Oh, okay. What shorty name? Jay-Z. As a girl, too. She's been supporting me. Hey, Jay-Z said the smartest person. The roommate got to say it over and over. Shouts to you, shorty. Hey, shouts to Donnie on the boards as well as Steven.
3:01:33Shouts to Munchie B. Young and Hefe, you feel me? You don't give a fuck about anything unless it's what the Czechs say. And Lushman won the cup with the Quete, you feel me? Munchie B above the game. You don't give a fuck what the refs say. And you feel me? fuck what the rest say this the whole entire coast of California this what the west say you feel me hey man you subscribe to my youtube channel hell yeah everybody else much you be the mayor youtube channel I got some shits coming on b team what's your youtube channel it man y 'all already know my youtube channel is um at smoke with hefe you know what I'm saying smoke with hefe at smoke with hefe and chiles to my brother besko we about this motherfucker you feel me You dig?
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