The NJ Show #357: King Pill's Career is OVER! Vlad Melts Down on TV, 600 Pressed by the 40s & More

27:51You saying disrespectful stuff. Then you put the song out, which is disrespectful. Now, all of a sudden, Bopton Giuno don't want to be on a song. You didn't did every goddamn thing else. Now, my job behind it is. Bopton Giuno, I don't think I ever met him in person. He did come to your city, though. But I talked to him on the phone. You feel me? He did a video in the hood. You feel me? In front of Pauly High School. You know what I'm saying? Everybody sending it to me like, hey, yo, look at this Pauly, nigga. He out there like, I'm thinking he out there like, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't meant as a diss though, right?

28:30Slotted for Big Sad, right? You feel me? It wasn't meant as, no, that was way before the Big Sad shit. Okay, gotcha. That was way before. He was just shooting the video out there. A word? Okay, gotcha. I seen that video. Yeah, you feel me? So, I got at him, you feel me? And we chopped it up. You feel me? And he told me like, nah nigga like it wasn't no this like you feel me he's just going around city to city to different landmarks yeah so when i looked because i never looked at his page when i seen his shit i automatically got at him yeah but when i went back and looked at his page he is doing all the landmarks in southern california yeah you feel what i'm saying he told me anything he kind of trying to show love right yeah so yeah so he showed me he told me like nah it wasn't like that this that this that i said bro you got to understand long beach is all crip city you know i'm saying we ain't got no bloods we ain't got no power rules out there.

29:15You know what I mean? So with that being said, it looked like you out here trying to, you know what I'm saying? Act like you on some other shit. Did he have his rag? I think he did have his rag. Man, that's decent, man. I know he was in all burgundy. You feel me? But when I got at him, he took the video down. Oh, okay. You feel what I'm saying? But it was out of respect. I ain't saying no buster or nothing. No, no, no, no. I don't feel like he'll bust him. Yeah. You feel me? But we talked man to man. I told him, like, look, bro, this hot. Look, this and that,

29:43before the hood and everybody else start taking it somewhere else that they don't need to go. You know what I mean? So I respected homie, this and that, this and that, this and that. Ever since then it was all love. We never met face to face. We went back and forth a few times on the internet. Because it's almost like you said. It was love though. Because it's almost like when you do something like that, it's almost like you're implying that it's blood niggas and shit running through Long Beach going wherever. And that's really not, that's definitely not the case. I didn't even hear niggas say blood until I was like 12 or 13 when I went to LA to my cousin's house.

30:12I don't even know what that was. So P-Nice, so my original question I was going to ask you, and you kind of already answered it, but do you pretty much agree with Anne Hephae's reaction? Would you have kind of reacted the same way if it was you? 100%. Yeah. 100%, because that shit not cool, bro. That's like me going on a track and saying, fuck all dissing the bloods. Not even dissing the bloods. Now you're saying fuck all of them, but just using that S word that they use to diss the bloods. You know what I'm saying? If I'm on a song, this and this. But when I get in front of Bloods, oh, no, I wasn't talking about you.

30:49I was talking about them Bloods. No, nigga, well, you should have said them Bloods. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because you dissed all of us. Or, wait, or it's kind of like if Krip Mac sits in front of a specific Hoover set and says, oh, nah, homie, I was just dissing these dudes from L.A. And they're like, hold on, bro. You got, like, the H killer on your forehead, bro. Like, that means all Hovers. It's like this. Josh, what's up, bro? I see you wanting to speak up. Just say I left here, right? And I said, fuck no jumper. Yeah. Nigga. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast.

31:31Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode, available on Plus and Pro plans. That's all of us. That's everybody. Is that me? Fuck no jumper, nigga. This is not, this is not, this is not, this is not. That is you. I don't count. That means everybody, Josh, that means everybody that work in No Jumper, right? Now, if I said, fuck Josh, you not taking offense like that.

32:11You not taking offense like that. Maybe you would because, like, man, that's my boy, man. You tripping. But you ain't going to take direct. I for sure won't be a fan, bro. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, pause. What's the appropriate reaction to fuck No Jumper? Like, I should slide and kill a nigga? That's not what he's saying. Okay, I can't care less what a nigga's saying. What he's saying is if you're not specifying it against a specific individual, it's the whole umbrella. So because that word was used, that then applies to everybody that's associated. And why I don't respect it, though, and why I call him like a buster, is because he moved to Atlanta to do this, right?

32:50Now, again, if he lived in L.A. full time and was out here dissing. This nigga live in Atlanta? Yes. He'll live in Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah. Right? his family, his everybody there, right? Bro, my hood, big as fucking Atlanta. Yeah, it's a lot of niggas from Atlanta. See, that's the type of shit. Hold on, hold on. That's the type of shit, bro. You know what I'm saying? You want to be an artist, right? You want to rap, nigga. But you dissing a big ass card, bro. Yeah. Like you dissing a big ass card, bro. The trades is big. Yeah. You feel me? so when I see you in public nigga I heard that song nigga you was dissing the trays nigga I'm not thinking Pomona right you know what I'm saying I'm thinking trays you know what I'm saying you felt it in fact you felt it yeah nigga then it's like banging on wax it is banging on wax it's banging on wax you feel me but at the same time you gotta understand this nigga all you niggas who be out there rapping and shit bro understand nigga you wanna be a rapper nigga you gonna be on them flyers nigga yeah nigga Trace know where you at nigga every time you wanna perform every time you wanna do a show anywhere cuz niggas can pop up anywhere nigga stop being stupid cuz just do your music but what I will say about Kingpill is he does come back to California to do business and when he comes back he is very public about I'm back I'm here I'm gonna be here I'm gonna be there so I wouldn't say he's only doing it cuz he's on he's in Atlanta.

34:25But what I would say is I understand that there are dudes walking around who have, like, they have this idea that, like, I can diss this specific person. I'll diss the whole card, but I really just mean this person because look what happened when Unk said the S word to Munchie, right? Everybody was just like, that's on Munchie Angle with family. But that word is a diss to every blood and everywhere. That shit is global. That's what I'm saying, but that's what I'm telling you. Up here, they set these different standards and shit, and then they don't realize that once you leave No Jumper Studio, it's a whole different ballgame.

35:10And Peele was kind of e-bowed in, too, though. Like, I feel like he was incentivized to do it because he feels like, Like, yo, if I do it, well, that gives me more opportunities to come back up here and pop my shit and talk about more shit. Opposed to. Niggas want to go viral. If we would have left that smoker where he was at, then he wouldn't be incentivized to come and do shit. But here's two things. Niggas want to go viral. Yeah. Until they really go viral. Come on. You feel me? Like, you know what I'm saying? Okay, you want to diss and all this type of shit. But now the trades done caught up with your ass.

35:45and now your ass getting your ass whooped. You getting packed out or whatever the case may be. You feel me, Nas? Oh, you buster niggas had to jump me or this and that. No, nigga, you dissed all of them, right? Mm-hmm. So when they crash, they go crash. Do y 'all feel like Adam backdoored Pill by having him come on the podcast? No, no, no. I want to ask this question to P-Nice. So do you feel Aunt Hefe handled it appropriately based on what you said? You say that this is every trade, period. Don't try to pick and choose. Do you think Ant Hefe's response was, in his checking of King Peel, was adequate, or do you think this needs to be escalated to human resources?

36:26I feel like Ant Hefe handled this shit exactly how he was supposed to handle it. Okay. You know what I'm saying? He was a man about the situation. You feel me? He kept that shit gangster. He didn't get extra hours and be trying to fight all on camera and do all this weird nigga shit. You know what I'm saying? He was cool about it. He was chill. He checked the nigga about it. you feel me and a nigga responds you feel me if a nigga if I check a nigga on something and it respond the way he peel but I wasn't talking about y 'all oh he don't want to raise your no but also not only that was that a mark out I'm not gonna say it and also looked him in the eye afterwards looked right at him and was like it was like what's up what we doing you feel me and peel didn't make my time so this is the thing no he didn't he did he did no he was like what are we doing he wasn't like what we doing this is exactly how it went no he said this is exactly how it went right he said what we on he uh and Tripp not Tripp but he checked him on the situation right he did what he was supposed to do mmhmm P.O.

37:31being the person that's dissing and shit he was supposed to be like nigga I said what I said mmhmm straight up yeah fast if that's why you feel you dissing on the songs right yeah you live in the flesh with a real tray. The niggas y 'all be dissing. So all that shit you was talking about, that's where the smoke supposed to be at. So as soon as Ant say something, nigga, I said what I said. Nigga, that's what I do. That's what I live by. Maybe Bal and P. Nice can correct me on this if I'm wrong. Yeah, and let him go to the next one. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. But the way I saw it, like, when Ant was like he wasn't dissing a trade though that was him basically giving you an opportunity king pill to pop whatever shit you want to pop exactly like yeah so he wasn't like saying like he knew that it was a diss that could be interpreted as offensive towards him that's him way of saying but you wasn't dissing us though that's you wasn't dissing am i wrong no you're right that's the whole reason i ever peel felt about the trades he had the opportunity correct to stand on it yes I'm still representing.

38:39But what Ant did was they gave him access to keep talking about or to go into deep detail as to why he dissed him, why he did. It was just uncomfortable for him. Like, you dissing the number that I represent, we not even do that in this space. Like, that's the only thing Ant did. I'm going to negate that. Keem probably was like, I wasn't talking about you. I kind of understand what Peele was saying. Yeah, of course. But you saying everybody. That's like somebody saying about the name of the N. That's everybody. Right. Everybody going to take offense to it. Everybody. You know what I'm saying? Is it a mark out there?

39:09Is it a mark out? Look, look, look. I'm not going to say. To me, that's a mark out, man. I don't feel like Ant was trying to mark him out. I feel Ant was standing his ground and letting him know how he feel about the situation. Because Ant didn't come at him like, hey, yo, bitch ass nigga. He didn't come at him like that. Yes, he did. No, he didn't. You mean like this. Listen, bro. If you stare at me like this, right, for five seconds, he didn't make eye contact with Ant, It don't matter. Ant is looking at this nigga like this for five or ten seconds. Man, come on, bro. You statement like that, bro.

39:44Listen to what I'm saying, though. Listen to what I'm saying. I don't feel Ant intentions was to mark him out. Ant intentions was just to check him and let him know how he feel. Plus for the world. Because the world is looking at this shit. If niggas know that he was dissing the Trey and they're like, Ant Hefe sitting here and they having a conversation, now it would have been a Marco on Ant. Oh, Ant is a mark because he didn't even say nothing about it. Nick, you put a nigga in a space where you had to say something, right? Do y 'all feel like then Peele didn't respond? Like, Peele not responding?

40:16Peele avoided eye contact at all costs, bro. Peele responded in a way he should have not responded. If he really feel like that, you put it in your songs, you feel me? I understand. Don't get me wrong. I understand he's saying it's for his local community, right? But just mention that, you feel me? Because when a nigga, when you in the face of a real Trey and a nigga saying this shit, nigga, I stand on what I stand on. But when a nigga say, what we on, though? Yeah. He didn't bring it up, though. He didn't bring that subject up. He didn't bring that subject up. Yeah, but it said what we on. And then stare at you for five seconds while you have one eye contact at all costs.

40:59That's a mark out. You didn't see it at the end? And it was like something, something, something. But what we on, though? I see. And then Peele head was like this whole time. You niggas are trying to. I ain't going to say he had his head down like that. No, you guys are trying to. He did. Listen, you two are trying to sensationalize it. You, I hear what you're saying, but I don't agree. I feel like Ant was like, you not. Ant was like, let's get an understanding. He wasn't dissing 83rd Street. And Peele was like, you're right. I wasn't dissing 83rd Street. And that was it. But then when Adam and him kept trying to talk about it, then.

41:32Adam didn't keep talking about it. Adam kept asking Peele questions about it. No. Ant kept on talking about it. And then Peele was trying to, you know what I'm saying, answer the questions in ways that would irritate him. He was trying to tough his way out of the markout. So when he said, no, no, no. So when he said, what we on, right? Yeah. Peele did not get marked out. Ant made no attempt to mark him out. I'm not saying he got marked out. They literally, no, I'm talking to these dudes because these dudes keep asking about a markout. We both know nobody got marked out right now. He got marked out to me.

42:01I never said he got marked out. There was no mark out that took place between nobody. Look, he did not get marked out, right? Yeah. All I'm saying is he should have responded in a different way. You know what I'm saying? It's either this. It's one or two things. Nigga, you know, that's where I'm from. That's what I stand on. You feel me? Or, but look, don't get me wrong. He was a man about saying, I'm not talking about y 'all, though. You feel me? But at the same time, when you putting it out there to the world, nigga, you dissing everybody that pushed that number okay so let me ask y 'all a question does the fact that neither one of them were alone change the dynamics and is it possible let me play Cracker's Advocate real quick you feel me is it possible that Pill didn't want to agitate the situation because he didn't want the other people that were there to turn up so he didn't want to react that nigga was scared man Cracker's Advocate I'm not gonna say I don't know the nigga You feel what I'm saying?

43:00I don't know if he was scared or not. But all I know is when a nigga tell me what we on, though, I feel like you tripping on me. For sure. That's like, at first, Ant, it was like some man shit. I'm letting you know, nigga. Like, you ain't dissing my hood, nigga. All right. That's cool. I wasn't dissing your hood. But what we on, though? Nigga, what you mean what we on, cuz? I don't feel like Ant asked it like aggressive. Look at his face. Let me say this. Look at his face. Okay, let me say this. No, let me say this, man. What else do I mean, bro? Pill was not scared. Ant was not scared. Shit. They both have people here with him.

43:36Ant was not scared. Listen, man. Pill was terrified. Listen, man. They both have people here with him. So the numbers and everything was even. Those folks was outside, though. It don't matter. He was right here. Listen, man. Either one of them. Both of them niggas know if they fight up here, it's going to be a problem with their employment. Both of them know that. So I believe That there was no fear Even involved Because Seeing that Peele Knows how to Control himself Until he did that shit With Adam outside I know And also knows What's going on The thing I think With Adam The only thing That's really gonna make him Pissed off Is some shit to do with money From what I learned About King Peele Some shit to do with money Gonna piss him off All the words and shit Niggas can say Whatever they want So why did King Peele Turn up there?

44:19He didn't turn up No no After on Adam Well we about to get Over his money that has nothing to do with this shit in here no what I will say though is is hey Adam the niggas is getting smarter King Peele understood wait wait wait wait hold on y 'all ask that question and antagonize me essentially being put in a bad situation the nigga routers what we on come and then crash on it Peele realized nah nah the gang members are getting smarter nigga. I'm telling you. Pill realized, nah Adam, my smoke is with you. I'm telling you. And then afterwards But why is there smoke with that? He crashed out over at 200 because he knew.

45:01But why is there smoke with that? Pill immediately said, I knew you was going to bring this shit up. He immediately said that. Pill was mad. He saw that shit coming from a mile away. So this is the question that I asked earlier. Pill blamed Adam for being marked out, yes. So what do you guys feel? Do you feel like Adam was too messy for asking that question? I think Adam was too messy. he should have never did that shit he was messy as fuck he was mad but what about Pilton turning down the topics he was like nah fuck this I want to talk about fades that don't mean tell it happened you don't even want to know what he said about you it's levels to shit cause I didn't see the shit they said he was talking about right as far as the topics but immediately you know the shit that Adam you talk about Adam could escalate to something crazy man You feel me?

45:50That's a lot more higher than a nigga talking about the topics and shit. Maybe he just ain't know the minute this. Maybe Adam is thinking, but I don't fuck with Peele, so. I lucky think if anybody was wrong in this situation, now that I'm thinking about it, my wheels turning, I think Ahefe might have been the person in the wrong. Because Ahefe had been sitting on this couch with that nigga Adam for a long time. He know that nigga be instigating shit. Peele saw it like, nigga, I knew he was going to do this. so if I'm at head fast like I'm not even gonna get offended about this shit cause I know this nigga Adam is trying to instigate something everybody in America who watched that shit saw that shit coming but Adam was mad because Peele dissed the topics so then he was gonna start a fight amongst niggas so when he said what we on I don't think that was just completely towards Peele no it's like the conversation like what we on what we talking about like we ain't finna be talking about dissing my hood you know what I mean so we can't take that as he marked out it was just and was just like like what we on like we not that's a good way to look at it that's what I'm not confident but you're not wrong to a degree but wasn't he looking at him when he said what he wrote exactly so here's that's the thing for five seconds that's why I said Pugh didn't bring up this topic he probably didn't want to talk about it but it's like but he was looking at him like this he was like what we on I think the nigga looking at him though for five seconds but before he looked at but before he looked at bro don't act like that before he looked at Adam he looked at Adam first Don't be trying to be politically correct.

47:20He looked at Adam first, though. He was on Adam like, you really bringing this shit up? Go rewind the tape. No, no, no. He was directing that at Adam and less at King Peel, but mostly at Adam. Like, why are we talking about a nigga potentially dissing my hood, bro? And I'm not going to lie to y 'all, and even kind of confirmed this yesterday when we spoke on the show, I thought that at first He was low key talking to me To be honest with you And I felt that way Because he was looking at you He was looking at me But also Here's So here's like how I interpreted the moment Right Okay And I felt kind of bad afterwards Like damn Did I kind of make this shit worse And like I feel like I have I don't want to say it A habit Because it's not something I'm consciously trying to do But it's like A recurring thing That's happening of me Like instigating Not instigating but adding fuel to the fire, whatever you want to call it, right?

48:16So here's what happened. So when he said, I wasn't dissing your hood, I didn't say nothing, but I kind of made a face. So he wasn't dissing Van Nuys. He kind of made a face, or I kind of made a face. Like, awesome, like, you weren't? You feel me? Right, right, right, right. Like, stand on business. Like, what did you, like, that's not 100 % true. Now, I know he didn't intentionally mean it towards the A-Trays, towards Ant's direct community, but it's a— So you were instigating too then? Maybe do agree I was. Oh, C-Man, bro. Maybe do agree I was. No, hold on. C-Man, listen. C-Bruh. Hey, Flacco.

48:58Let's act like he a nigga until it's time to be a white man, bro. What? This is the opposite. Flacco, let me explain some of you. Okay. This is a word that's not even in your vocabulary. Oh, my, we dropped. Accountability. you feel me? Accountability. I'm not even under fire. No one's on my ass about this shit but I'm gonna take responsibility for what I feel for what I feel for what I feel for what I feel for what I feel for what I feel for what I feel for what I feel for what I feel but Adam's the one who brought this shit up. He brought it up and I feel like the reason why I feel like You don't have to jump in front of Adam or some shit.

49:30No I feel like him bringing it up was messy for sure but I also know that like if you have topics or like if you're trying to run a podcast even like when we've been on podcasts And you've been like, nah, fuck that topic. We're not talking about that. It throws me off. You feel me? That's like me having a Palestinian and a Jew here like, oh, yeah, by the way, I heard them niggas bombed y 'all shit the other day. You were literally instigating it. It literally was like. For sure. It was for so instigation. It's instigatory and I'm going to take responsibility. But Adam and Ed. For my part. Yeah, but let's move on.

50:07And if they'll handle it, great. They handled it great. I like that. Do y 'all feel like I'm tripping for having even done that? Before that though, let's get to Adam's situation anyway though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he dissed my little brother. Yeah, man. So, and Lush, and you are also a big part of this discussion as well. So King Peele confronts Adam and what Lush said afterwards in terms of where he was positioned and how he was trying to... We're donning at. You feel me? We're donning at. We're donning at. I've seen this right now. Yeah. Flacco's not wrong. Your immediate response was, I had your back.

50:48I got you. Hold on. We're done yet. Lush said, bro, I was staying back, soccer. Let's go. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let's step in. Look, Lush. Lush, look. I fucked up with you, Lush. I fucked up with you, Lush. I fucked up with you, Lush. I fucked up with you, Lush. Don't trick. I fucked up with Lush. There's no crying in baseball. I get it. So, I fucked up with Lush. Yeah. Look, I remember seeing this. Lush ain't even in the screen. He's going to come on the screen and then he's going to disappear. Get Donnie. Someone get Donnie. Okay. Lush that, bro. I will stay back. So, like, just to watch.

51:16You feel me? From what ever they came? First of all, I had a fucking buzz ball in my hand ready to fucking hadooken. You feel me? Are you going to sock out King Peele? No, I was going to hadooken him with buzz balls. Yeah. They want to pack your niggas out. Dude. Okay. Oh, my God, man. By the way. By the way. Shout out to the homies, the blood homies that were there that were actually mature. They just want to keep going and no jumping. They pick their soccer balls up. Yeah, man. Oh, yeah, that's true. Donnie, thank you, brother. Hey, hold on. They de-escalated. It's all the soccer balls. Yeah.

51:51Hold on. Hey, Donnie, will you tell these gentlemen that I was not going to let Adam get packed out and that your boy was true, Chuck? Donnie, don't lie to him. Don't lie for him. Don't have my back. Just tell the truth. Lush told Adam Adam ran over to where you was at, actually. He walked in your direction. Lush was over by the TV and he went straight over there and me and him made eye contact. But by that time, we seen all King Pills homies pulling him back. We gotta watch the video. Now what? Lush once said Donnie, Lush said that he's still in here specifically so he could watch just in case Donnie, pause that.

52:34Donnie, can you pause it? Can you bring it back a little bit and pause it? Now, when I was saying this shit about the size, right? Look at this big, fat-ass nigga in this red hat, bro. That's what I meant by big. Them niggas from King Pills hood is all fat and out of shape. We're not going to diss the other homies. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying when Tay was trying to say I was saying. So next, next, next. They just big. They like niggas like my size. But I know a lot of fat, out of shape looking niggas who got hands, though. So, like, he's talking to Adam. Facts. Boy, Adam ran into that cubicle, man.

53:09Adam pushed him, though. Adam pushed him. No, he didn't. Yeah. Yes, he did. He didn't run. Adam pushed him. Yeah, he did push him. With the left hand. He sure did push him. Word? Oh. Adam pushed him first. Bro, Peele got marked out twice by Adam then. Adam's looking for a lighter. Yeah, he wants you to smoke weed. That's all he's doing. Adam's looking for a lighter. Wait, hold on. So, Adam engaged. Adam marked out King Peele. He engaged physical contact with him. Hey, King Peele turned it up. There wasn't no smoke because it looked like King Peel pulled out the camera on him. Come on, bro. That's all he does is record.

53:36That's when he pulled out the camera. Oh, come on. When a nigga pull out the camera, you know a nigga not really tripping like that. But when a nigga walk within two inches of your face, talking about where's my money. Oh, my God. He knocking over the walls. Yeah, bro. We're talking about broke niggas, though, bro. I'm taking King Peel's side, but not on this part. So he said that he needed the$200 to get home. Why are you showing up to any facility without money to get home? Now, hold on. That's what I don't understand. Hold on. The nigga told him beforehand, I'm broke. I need money. Oh, wait, wait, wait.

54:12Hold on. So he needed$200 to go home. So wait. I guess a flight home because he in the A. No, but he was staying out there for, like, the night type shit. I don't think he had anything to do with his flight, from my understanding. I think he talking about gas. to like get back to home. Need a gas to go back home. Now on this, I'm telling y 'all y 'all full of shit. Look, the nigga told Adam he needed money before he ever came. Adam, basically from what Adam said, he told him, yeah, we can get you paid today. You know what I'm saying? You can't tell a nigga you're going to pay him after he done.

54:49And then when he done. No, that's not true, Brandon. That's what Adam said. No, Adam said. said... Josh always pays. What? I know that. No, Adam said afterwards, when he started asking, Adam said, alright, listen, I will get you paid just if we'll get Josh Jai from it, right? But beforehand, no, it was your bro. You want to be like a recurring host? Cool. We can pay you$200 per appearance. And that's, again, if you get paid a day, you know... You can't tell me what Adam said. Adam sat here and said, King Peele said, hey, bro, I'm broke. Yes. I don't got no money. So Adam basically told him he would pay him that day.

55:29No, no, no, no. No, not that day, bro. Bro, we can run the fucking film back. Just real quick. No, not that day, bro. You're wrong with that. What'd you say? That's in text message. But did he not say he would pay him that day? But Josh would pay. But hold on. No. Flacco is trying to say Adam never agreed to pay him the same day. And he did agree to pay him the same day. Adam said like. We're from after. Yeah. But hold on. Real quick. Two things. So in regards to Flacco's initial comment of why would you show up somewhere without money if you're dedicated to pursuing um a dream or like you want to make something happen look bro i'm from battle rap i used to fucking fly out to cities with no money no return flight i depended on the prize money i went sleeping in motherfucking alleys in chicago where i never been type shit that's what we do when we're dedicated and wanting to make why you're on the grind yeah you understand but when you because you could you used to ride around with a broken window you feel me you grinded your way now but i only had gas money yeah i'm just saying like but you weren't a but like you came out here and it was unsure of situation yeah believed in yourself and you're let's engage though i'm not gonna judge okay so let's engage with the topic i just wanted to engage with the sure sure sure did adam tell him beforehand that he'll pay that down yes he did yes he did so this is my donnie just told you it was on text no no that's adam said it no adam said No, no.

56:46Look, I'm not hearing this. We talked to Adam Brandon, and he said. No, we could call Adam right now. Adam literally sat here and said he talked to him. And Bill's defense, though, you feel me? If he tripping off for$200 because he came here to work, and they said he's going to give him the paper, I understand that part. You feel me? At least he ain't going to the club. He broke? Okay, cool. But at least he ain't going to the club. Right. He going to work. And ask niggas. He came here to work. Yeah. You feel me? To get some money. So I can respect that. But do you realize how much humility it takes for you to admit to another man, look, man, I'm broke.

57:19So if I do come there, I need my money like today. No, but he never said that, Brendan. Bro, Donnie just said it happened over text. Why are y 'all sitting here? Listen, why are you guys arguing when Adam said it right here and Donnie is confirming it? So per my understanding, Adam told us that he never told him that. Listen to the text. Maybe you got a camera guy that can start building with me a couple times a week. Hmm. You should come on the show Tuesday. Munchy Me Lush and Hefe. We got Snoopy Badass Baby Mama Tania coming laughing loud. Bet, I'm there. Damn. Do you pay them to go up there?

57:56Because I'm broke, man. I got you. If you're a regular on the channel, we can start paying you and shit. That's what's up, bro. Yeah, she never says. I'm just trying to be clear. So where? I got you means I got you. He never. Listen, man. Wait a minute, bro. Nah, come on. Wait a minute, bro. Hey, Lush, Lush, look. We know what you're trying to do, but you're not going to do it because the last line makes it clear that he expects to get paid that day. He says, you're going to pay me to come up there Tuesday. He did not know, oh, you're going to come here Tuesday, and then at the end of the month, we're going to pay you.

58:29But look, it's a slight confusion because it could go that way, like you said, Brandon, or it could be like. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro plans. I had a post to this too, by the way.

59:08pay this show. It's not really clear. But Adam should have said. What have come? Ask the boss. What happened after I'm just trying to be clear? Exactly. What happened after I'm just trying to be clear? And why didn't he say, are you going to pay me on Tuesday? He's going to pay me to come on Tuesday to indicate something differently. And he's a regular on the show, meaning he's coming every week after that. He's not a regular. No, that's the point. No, he brought him on to be a regular. I get it. But when he says, I'm just trying to be clear, that is him telling you he's trying to figure out if he's going to get paid on Tuesday when he shows up.

59:44On top of that, Adam knows this dude don't live in the same state. That's two ways, though. Yeah. Nah, it's not. Nah. I understand you. No niggas. I know he made you. Yeah, yeah. I understand you. Yeah, but Adam told him. That's true. But that's what I can tell you. You know what I'm saying? So, P.O. probably was talking about getting paid today. Yeah. Adam probably was talking about when you come on Tuesday, that's the day you start getting paid for the shows. But here's the real thing. So you'll get that$200 every month added up. Even after, Adam told you. Bro, listen, wait an hour, bro. Josh will cash out.

1:00:16Which is very accommodating. But that's not what Adam said. He didn't say wait an hour. He literally said, he said, you know. He did tell us. Listen, man. He did. He did. Adam said Josh will send it. It'll be there within the hour. Okay, okay. And if you got an actual cash app that works, Josh is on it. And he said an hour is too long to wait. That's what King Peele said. Yes. If I knew it was that fucking... You would have given him money. I would have given him two hours right then, and then they could have reimbursed me. You feel me? Shit, I'm not giving no niggas. I went to New York with King Peele.

1:00:49Going traveling with a dude, that's the best way to figure out a dude's financial situation. You know this dude ain't got no money, because you in New York, he ain't out there buying... The dude wear the same shit every day, bro. That's telling you something. bro need his bread bro need his bread but the camel is a character hell no he be wearing the same fatigues every day that's like Bart Simpson wears the same fit every day Doug wears the same fit that's a cartoon character the camel is a character it's not really something that's like well he like a soldier or something that's what he's trying to represent I think he's literally an image bro either way he wears the same fatigues regardless here's the main thing don't be an image that makes you look goofy though at least it stand out right to a degree but it make you look goofy though sure but okay so understandable but check this out so this this is really what happened guys Kingpill came through he knew this is essentially like an audition for him to potentially be the on the No Jumper show right it wound up like he came on shrooms for some reason not everybody's lush uno I take shrooms and I'm literally like you feel me I'm Mario watch rooms.

1:02:01I evolve. Not everybody can do that. No, that's what you think in your damn mind. Maybe in my head. But whose idea was it? Bro, look, a toddler Hold on, let him land. Let him land. My whole point is this. Dude came through. He was faded. This was supposed to be his audition. He knew it wasn't going well. The young and jefe interaction was definitely awkward at best. A mark out at worst. We could say it's somewhere in between awkward and a mark out. Can we all agree on that? Yeah. No, we can't agree on that. Okay, it's definitely awkward. You feel me? It was awkward, but it wasn't a markdown. You said between an awkward and a markdown.

1:02:36So then it's awkward, all right? It's one or the other or somewhere. You're using that Jewish language right now. But Anhefe did what he was supposed to do. Anhefe did exactly what he was supposed to do. Regardless, it was still awkward, and he might have felt like Adam backdoored him or lined him up due to that line of questioning or this or that, you feel me? So he's shroomed out mine in that moment. He's getting pissed off. The show's not going well. Adam already said like you're doing terribly beyond that like he wasn't really able to make any like point or land like make any interaction that had any resonance by the end of it he's like you know what fuck this shit I'm not leaving without my money today because I'm probably never talking to these motherfuckers again what's up with it you've never taken shroom you reaching you reaching no I know that's literally well he said within the hour and he couldn't wait within an hour that means he did that money bad bro He didn't crash out mode by that point.

1:03:27Nah, bro. He needed that money bad, bro. But if he told him, you go get your paper in an hour, then all right, cool, nigga. What? Two minutes. It was two minutes he had to wait for his money. Oh, really? Two minutes. Oh, that's crazy. It was as fast as Adam sending a text and then going out. There was no, like, there was not a long period. Like, he got paid. Yeah, it couldn't have been gone. But what from Adam said. He probably was paid after the confrontation already happened, though, huh? No, I think it was, like, during that whole thing. So, while the confrontation was going on, his cash out was dinging.

1:04:02But here's the thing. You've got to be patient. Adam said, oh, hit up Josh, and he could get it to you tonight. like that's what Adam said out of his own mouth he said that's what he said so guys let's look at the nuance if someone initially says it to you like that yeah you are going to get a little bit upset like dude I need my money now and you're kind of blowing me off sending me to another person saying they'll get it to me tonight but I need it now what you got to understand what business is you feel me he's the payroll guy he's the payroll guy I get that let me ask you this he already expressed that he's not in the best financial situation.

1:04:39You don't think if you would have been like, yo, Adam, I'm not trying to bug you. The show just ended. I need money to get home right now, bro. Can you please just shoot it real quick? Please? You don't think it would have gone different? But at the same time, he's a man. He has pride, bro. He ain't going to be like groveling. Bro, listen. Say you bring one of your friends from MacArthur Park up in here, right? You know how you got some people... How do you know there's not 10 of them over there ready to pack you out? I wish I'd go over there today. Listen, you know there's some people who you don't bring to certain places, right?

1:05:15Like there are certain girls you ain't going to bring to a nice restaurant. That's what Adam got caught up doing. You're dealing with a ghetto nigga in a professional environment. And he acted like ghetto niggas act when you owe them money. He wants his money now, not later. so I don't feel King Bill acted other than acted in any way other than how he would act in that situation normally all his other friends who are all also from there you feel me and turns up why did they all be like oh shit Bill's tripping let me get him up out of here he tripping because they understand access this guy's our middle ticket and access to no jumper if he fucks up we all fucked but you were just implying that like you know hood ass fools don't even understand that new one I'm trying to oh yo the homie some money But that was the problem.

1:06:01That was the problem right there. Now, if Peele would have never came up here with all them people, I don't think he would have reacted in that manner. Yeah. It would have been an easier conversation. He's already agitated about something. He would have understood. He was agitated with him already probably because of the messy shit that went on, the instigating. That's my whole point. He was already irritated, you feel me? But them other people being here probably added fuel to the fire because now I'm in front of my people. I'm already irritated with you. I'm going to leave. People are like, yeah, you see how I check out him, nigga?

1:06:35You know what I'm saying? You already want to press him. I want to press out him. No, fuck. I already agitated. It could be something prior to doing the podcast, right? Yeah, come on. And he went out there like, I'm going to press him. I know he's going to come back. I'm going to just press. But what I can say is, I don't know them niggas. But shout out to his homies, though, because a lot of homies would have been shills trying to crash out, too, with him. You feel me? at least I see that it was not yes man around him. No. You know what I'm saying? It was solid energy. They has real friends. Hey, yo, check this out, bro.

1:07:05Nah, come on. What you doing? You tripping. You feel me? So shout out to them niggas, though. Shout out to them niggas, though. Adam said he had his friend with him. Yeah. Yeah, but Adam was wrong in that situation, though, because you can't shoot a nigga just for punching. You was watching my show last night, nigga. No, no, no. Hey, just to let y 'all ignorant motherfuckers watch this, know if Adam would have shot King Peel for walking up on him, Adam would have been in jail. You can't shoot a nigga. We just learned that from Carmelo Anthony. You got to have equal force. It's California, too.

1:07:33He hasn't been janky or a lot. Yeah. No, no, no. No. Hey. Hey, listen, bro. You have to sell it, nigga. Meaning this, okay? He punched you once. You tried to retreat. He tried to punch you down again and push again. Now, free body, nigga. Don't stop shooting until that back turn. You feel me? Again. Fortnite. Until that back turn, you got to stop. But, hey, if he in front of you, make sure he don't be able to turn his back. You feel me? But you also don't think that Chat was turning him up? He's like sitting there. Oh, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. I'm sure. But Chat was like, mark up, mark up, mark up.

1:08:07I'm sure. No, no, no. I'm not turning him like that. Yeah. Oh, no. Chat turned him up. And you know that hotline of Blake? Hey, y 'all did him like that? Yeah. Chat was still. No, it will get you. You're going to have your ear tripping. Yeah. Look, look, look. Can we get to some other topics? I'm tired of talking about this nigga, man. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He just did a King Peel. Did Adam get marked out? No. Why didn't Adam just take off on that nigga? Well, if Adam pushed him first, then no. If Adam could have punched him when he walked into his personal space. That could have been a lawsuit against Adam.

1:08:33No, no. If King Peel came up to Adam aggressively like how he was coming up to him, Bro could have fired on him. That wouldn't have been a lawsuit. Let's go to Charleston White number four. I feel like if it was P. Nice that was that mad, he would have got to Adam a lot quicker. No, no, no. Four, four, four. Charleston White? I wouldn't. You know what I'm saying? Tripping up for a nigga with$200, bro. I'm not an emotional figure. Wait, what's that guy? You know what I'm saying? I don't think you're emotional. You know what I'm saying? I put on my thing last night. So, Charleston White is wishing death on 4Xtra.

1:09:06And, yeah, you feel me? And he's shaming 4Xtra for needing a GoFundMe. Let's roll a clip. Mr. No Jumper, Mr. Adam 22, is supposed to help you gangbanging. Because why y 'all begging poor people for money? Who want to help a gangbanger that beat up black people? All he do is beat up black people. Who want to donate to that nigga? Nigga, file for disability. Matter of fact, don't you work for No Jumper? He can't get them boxing matches no more. I hear y 'all mad at Aaron Deplumber. I hear y 'all mad at Aaron Deplumber. because he making fun of no extra now making fun of no extra he should have died he should have died from the explosion many black people he done hurt a big old loud mouth ass nigga that got everybody's skirt up don't you work for the white man for extra i heard it for the violator i hope them white folks send your ass to prison a pause playing with firecrackers All right, so there's two questions here, okay?

1:10:09So one is what he said about four extra too harsh. And then two, should gang members get the support? No, should gang members get the community's resources taking into consideration all the harm they do to our community? First and foremost, Charleston White is a bitch, bro. Straight up. Boy, he finna do a four-hour room. I don't give a fuck. So what? I don't give a fuck if he can say what he want to say. He's a buster ass nigga. Whatever you want to say, anything he going to say about me going to be lies. You know what I'm saying? He can't take nothing away from my gangsta. He can't take nothing away from my manhood, my fatherhood, nothing.

1:10:54He's the buster. You feel me? But at the end of the day, you sitting here talking about gang members tearing down a community or whatever the case may be, right? But you supposed to be a black man too. Yeah, he black. You feel me? So from the outside looking in, this the type of video you post? Look, you a cancer too. You adding fuel to the fire. You know what I'm saying? The way I look at 4X, okay, if he a gangster and he done did all this shit, that whatever the case may be, but guess what? How often did y 'all see him here? A lot, right? He's working, right? Yeah, yeah, of course. So that means he's doing something better with himself, right?

1:11:32Yeah, yeah, facts. So that was a thing of the past. No. No, no, listen. Listen to me. Just let me laugh. Yeah. If he's here. Yeah, facts. On a regular basis. Yeah. Tripping all the time. I'm not going to say he wasn't tripping at all. Yeah. But tripping all the time is a thing of the past because you can't trip all the time when you at work. Yeah, yeah, that's true. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. And then you can't get mad at the nigga for doing what he do when he go to jail. Hmm. Nigga's on in jail. Yeah. No, that's a good point. I can't imagine how turn drop he would have been when he was like.

1:12:02No, but he's wrong. Okay, so with this conversation, this is where you have to be biased because I like 4XR. I talk to 4XR routinely. So because I like 4XR, I believe that 4XR is a good dude. So no, I don't believe that 4XR should have died. And I think he's wrong for saying we said 4XR. But if we're talking about this in a larger context and we remove four extra from the conversation and we just throw a random gangbanger in there, why should a gangbanger be able to destroy his community for decades? And then once he get into something, now the same community now pour their little resources back into him.

1:12:46You feel me? So that conversation to me is the conversation that he should have probably proposed first. Right. Because with that conversation, I don't think anybody can disagree with you, right? Like a gangbanger with a four decade history of violence shouldn't really get the little. But what about a gangbanger that's actually at this point providing job opportunities for the community? That's. Which 4XR was doing? That's a gang member. Like whatever. Okay, sure. Whatever you want to call it. It's between a gangbanger and a gang member. Okay, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? An active member is a banger.

1:13:19So what is 4XR considered? He's active. He says he's active. Okay. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. You got to understand this stuff. I don't think I used the wrong terminology then. No, no, no. I understand this. No, you said gang member. I'm not going to speak on it if he's active or not. You feel me? But what I will speak on is the positivity. I did see him giving food to the homeless. You feel what I'm saying? I did see him coming to work every day. You feel me? I did see him trying to put his homies and other people in better positions. I did see that shit. But there's been a twitle on how gangbangers have been tricking us for years.

1:13:50Again, not for extra, but for decades, right? The gangbangers will gift turkey on Thanksgiving and toys on Christmas. And then steal the toys the next day. No, no, no, no. They'll flock to the same crib. No, no, no, no, no, no. Santa Claus is coming back, motherfucker. With the parcel real quick, though. It's fucked up. The gangbangers in the community will gift that mama toys for her other kids on Christmas, but they killed her oldest son the same year. So I'm saying, fuck your toys. just don't harm these people's kids, right? So I'm saying the gangbangers have been tricking us for decades where they would do some little shit here and there, toys, you know, like toy drives, like turkeys.

1:14:36But they've been, again, it's a net negative, meaning they have destroyed more than they have given back. And I'm saying that's the case. But because 4X is our friend. But you can't shoot them down for giving back. Like, you feel me? like, okay, they have destroyed. But if they're doing better now, don't be positive. Stop thinking about somebody who passed all the time. Do you respect growth? If the growth is real, yes. Okay, let's utilize me. I don't say I'm a gang banger. It's like a member. Sure, sure, sure. I have those stories. We crucify 4X for his war stories or fighting stories. I have the same youth authority story, county jail, penitentiary.

1:15:19I've been in the same places, right? Yeah, of course. But I do a pile of stuff in the community life. So you're going to shut me down because the negative stuff. You know what I'm saying? Whoa. You know what I mean? Wait, though. Damn, Flacco. And he's wrong. Again, and he's wrong in regards to 4Xtra because we know 4Xtra. Right. And he's somebody who we believe he's positive and he has turned. But I'm saying in his conversation in terms of the larger scheme regarding gang members as a whole, and he probably has just like misread like four extra and he believes that four extra is still the active gangbanger who's still outside shooting and killing niggas which to be honest i don't know if he is right hold on blocko because it has to be that because didn't charleston white used to claim a set yeah and he grew right okay yeah okay and he denounced it yeah it would have to be what you're saying or else what he's saying is just dripping with hypocrisy.

1:16:14Or else it has to be what you're saying. No, he's saying... Sorry, no. He still thinks that 4Xtra is an active gangbanger who hasn't grown. And I'm saying he's wrong for that because we know 4Xtra. But I thought we just said that 4Xtra was active a second ago. But that's literally what 4Xtra is saying. I'm active. I'm out here. I'm going to do this, that. Listen, man, I gave money to 4Xtra's medical campaign. But at the end of the day, I feel like, P. Nice, you're wrong, just being totally dismissive of Charleston White because you have to accept that Charleston White's sentiments reflect the way a lot of people feel.

1:16:54You can't just be like, this guy is an asshole or he's a bitch because it's like, that's why a lot of people watch him because a lot of people agree with him. And right now in the black community, there's a very real conversation being had as to whether gang members are something that needs to be totally eliminated eradicated eradicated and so what i would say like for extras or somebody like that yeah he's doing a lot of positive things now from what you guys are saying i really don't know but here's the thing that's just normal shit but i'm not calling wait wait wait that's like me saying i didn't wake up and get drunk and beat my wife today well there's a million dudes gonna be You're like, well, I'll do that any day.

1:17:34So I'm not going to pat you on the back for doing normal. Wait a minute. Damn. I'm not going to pat you on the back for doing normal shit. At the same time, for extras, though, he may not personally be doing it. Right? He did go to jail. But he may not be doing it anymore. He's still perpetuating it. He's still promoting it. Hey, dude, I don't shoot nobody. But I'm out here selling AKs. And I'm out here telling people. Exactly. Well, here's the point. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to. But listen. I'm not going to sit here and lie and act like four extra is like the poster child for philanthropy.

1:18:08And he's just like, like, yeah, what I said was clear cut and made sense. I said that he's creating jobs in his community. He's adding opportunities that are beyond the, what jobs is he creating? All, all the educators. Okay. So all the different artists that he works with that are different rappers. Ha ha ha. What do you mean? Ha ha ha. This is providing a positive outlet. but is it a positive outlet of a nigga get in the booth and shit he say ignite a gang war throughout i mean that's a whole conversation but you know what it's not it's not making music is not participating in gang activity it promotes gang well look at drill rap understand it don't it don't i'm sorry go ahead no no no here my my greater my greater point is this overall right at the end of the day I'm not trying to like say that 4X3 is like the best human ever when it comes to like giving back he's done a lot you feel me but that's not what the point is the point is Charlson White is holding people to such a high standard that God forbid anything unfortunate happens to him or anyone a high standard don't kill people that standard is not their high lusher don't kill or victimize people it's not I understand When it comes to not holding people's past or their words against them.

1:19:30Because by that definition, this is the same dude that said it was okay to R-word women, you feel me? And a whole bunch of other shit. Stop bringing up other shit. We talking about that. No, no. What do you mean? We're talking about the man's character, bro. We're talking about the man's character, brother. You can't, bro. You talk about a man's character in his past, right? And you're saying this bad shit about him. But you charged the right saying it's okay to R-word women. You feel me? Come on, bro. Like, he's the last person. If the message is. No, no, no. It's not long. He did say. Because the trolls was talking about, like, his previous comments that he was made.

1:20:06Because he was on live and in a car with his homie. And he was saying, yo, I'm telling him how we used to gang great white women back in our past. And then the trolls were saying, ha, ha, ha, you the rapist. So he said, yeah. I'm a blah, blah. But he was talking about running a train on Whitewood. Right, right, right. But regardless. That's why it's not a matter of it. Say that. Say that. Don't say the R word. He did come back, though. You know how offensive that is to a lot of people? But he tried to be provocative. No, no, no, no. Crystal Songz of Gaynor trying to be provocative. Wait, though.

1:20:39You do it every day. No, no, no. No, but, though, he did come back and say during the China Mac situation, and this is the one that I can't excuse, was because he was mad at China Mac because they were beefing, And he says, rape all Asian women and babies. So once you say that, I can't excuse that part no more. He made several comments like that. But listen to what he's saying, though. He said women and babies. Yeah. And you got the nerve to be sitting here defending this nigga? Nah, we defending him. That's crazy. I wouldn't say that we're defending him. Yeah. Go ahead. And then on top of that, bro, it's like with the four extra shit, right?

1:21:19Where is it cool? Okay, people understand, like you said, a lot of people agree with Charles LeBright saying, right? Yeah. Okay, I understand that part. I agree with some of the shit he say, too. He ain't just no all-around fucked-up person. He say some good messages sometimes that I agree with, right? But where is it cool to say, 4X should have died? Yeah. Come on, bro. Okay. If they didn't do that, deserve him to lose his life. Again. For fighting? That's what I'm saying. Again, he's wrong for saying that in regards to 4X. because 4X has changed his life. But if Charleston White is being logically consistent here, meaning this, if he believes that 4X is out here harming people, then he wouldn't be wrong for saying, I wish somebody who harms people lose their life.

1:22:05But I'm saying he just don't know 4X, right? If he thinks 4X is still who he believes is that active nigga who's still out here shooting and killing people, when that's not the case. But if you look at Charleston White, the way he delivers his message, it's really genius how he does it because Charleston White if you really listen to him he don't sound much different from a dude talking about man I'm about to slide on the ops and do this and do that and do that we'll celebrate that shit by it consuming it by the truckload but when someone who we are holding to a certain standard says it now it's offensive how dare he say that it's all about how we perceive shit if you're a person who is supposed to be responsible and you're supposed to be mature and you know you have like a way of thinking that like promotes peace if you say it's a problem and we're offended but then if fgb duck or one of them motherfuckers say oh that nigga that's that nigga trying his song so it's hypocrisy within our community that needs to be called out yes it is not though because you say quote unquote we applaud that half the people that hear that shit don't like it off rip when you're dissing gangs that offends a lot of people when you're dissing people that's instantly divisive so we can't so why are people listening to it on spotify every day by the millions yeah but we can't tell but there's still a lot of people that it offends you know but what i'm saying is if you were offended if you're offended by what charleston white said yeah you shouldn't be able to listen to no drill rap no am i wrong it's not look like it's not about no i totally i totally understand you brenda correct it's not about it's not about being offended just a white man in here trying to But the white man, you know what the white man in the room is trying to not do?

1:23:48What? Agree with that shit. Because I don't. You feel me? But also, you signed these niggas to record deals. I don't want to be the person to say. No, but why Lush is signing with this, though, Ben? It's because, bro, it's been well-known. First of all. It's been well-known for a decade, bro. Shut up, Lush. Gang members and street rappers is a CIA experiment, all right? they are the root cause of the CIA saying, hey, listen, man, these niggas is getting way too conscious. They're getting way too woke. We need a way to fuck this shit up. For example, bro. Go into it, bro. No, look, Russell, look, right?

1:24:27Look, the guy called Mike Banz, and he exposed how, bro, USAID, bro, have spent billions of dollars in taking conscious rap music and spreading it in... Foreign countries. It was Cuba, Bolivia, these nations where, yo, we want their leaders to change. Not just conscious rap music to specify, but go ahead. Wait a minute, right? So they take the Benzadolars, they put it into spreading the conscious anti-authority rap music into these countries, right? And these are specific countries where they want the regime to change and they understand that, yo, these people who were super submissive, super complacent, bro, after like five years of these countries receiving anti-authority conscious rap music, their entire mood changed, their entire like DNA changed.

1:25:30They're now all of a sudden rebellious now. So if they took billions of dollars in making sure that conscious rap music destroyed other countries imagine what they did to make sure that conscious rap music was removed from our society to make sure that we became complicit it creates a paradigm shift yeah right so i'm so gangbangers and and the rap niggas are or are again are cia babies but hold on but there's a difference between gangster rap and there's a huge difference between like if you want to use that argument which i don't disagree well when i was young hold on that's the that's the antithesis of gangster rap music.

1:26:08They're talking about music that's about public enemy type shit. No, I'm sick. Gang member? No, no, no. That's the type of music they're talking about. No, that's not. That's the kind of music and gang members. Let me say this. Let me say this. Let me say this. Let me say this, bro. When I was in high school and I was angry, I was mad about shit, one of five people. I was listening to DMX and crazy shit to turn me up. When I got to college and I got more on like fucking bitches and shit, I was listening to like Common, Erykah Badu, you know what I'm saying? Most Death, Twi 'le Little Kali. There's a certain type of rap, different types of rap music evoke a different type of thinking in you.

1:26:56For sure. It makes sense that they would put the anti-authority music in other countries because they're trying to expand the mind. So I'd give a dude most death if I wanted him to start contemplating the way he's being treated by his government or like a public enemy like you said. Now if I want you to not think about that I'm going to remove all that shit and I'm going to give you straight drill rap. Not even future because future will have you thinking. They going to play some fucking King Von, some real ignorant shit like that's promoting a savagery that takes very little thought. Not only that, but that whole argument could potentially be a conspiracy when you look at the fact that when there's times of civil unrest, there's going to be socially conscious music that evokes an uprising.

1:27:46That happens in every single generation. But we have no more. That's going to be replaced in this country. So regardless, there's that. It's not necessarily getting replaced. EBK J-Bo ain't talking about no conscious nothing. When it's time, when people are banding together, whether or not— Lil Brazy ain't talking about. Lil Brazy is not. Exactly. But when we get to those situations, right, that whatever side of the political spectrum we're on, like when there's a huge amount of people all unifying and doing protests and things like that, Kendrick Lamar, We Gonna Be Alright, and that little baby song, you feel me, the bigger picture, is that what it's called?

1:28:25Yeah. Those were like the theme songs for it. There's like music being catered specifically for it. No, Lush. Sorry. I'm wrong? Yes. I think we and Flock are right in your own. No, Lush is wrong. No, Lush. No, Lush. No, Lush. Lush, Lush, Lush, Lush. Listen, Lush. Understand, Lush. Here's why you're wrong, okay? These people are still capable of using the conscious music when it's time to suit their agenda. For example, every four years, right around the election, they utilize it to turn black people up, take like a police brutality incident, spread it on the media, use conscious music. Why? To get you niggas marching towards like Democrats.

1:29:00so every four years mind you it don't feel every election year oh Kendra Lamar conscious shit is popping little baby bigger picture happened during during the election year so no again when it's time to get us to do some shit they utilize the same music that they use to brainwash other countries but trust me when it's not a fucking election year go to the top 100 billboard straight ignorance straight ignorance Jay Cole Remember Stop the Violence Movement, Self-Destruction? Remember the, we're all in the same game? West Coast All-Stars? This year ain't older than us. I'm saying, that kind of music, right, which was intended to stop the game of violence going on in LA, right?

1:29:50I just don't feel like there's enough kinds of music out right now. To me, there's like, not a, who's going to say, somebody from New York? Okay, we can get kicked out. But they signing who though? This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting work mode available on Plus and Pro Plans.

1:30:33I see. I mean, that's what, no, that's what like. Bow, all right. Yeah. Okay. The niche you just described is being like built in the mainstream. They slush. Kendrick, Doji, and J. Cole. Lush. That's geared toward the conscious. Lush, look. One thing you notice is the rappers are getting younger, right? The reason they do that is because what they're trying to do, they're not necessarily trying to force you into violence. what they're trying to do is create an atmosphere where people really just don't give a fuck about political anything wait a minute no no no the rappers when we was growing up but what was not spitting but what I'm telling you is they're not going to send something that makes you say I want to pick up a gun and go kill somebody what they're going to do is they're going to promote an environment that makes you look at things as very unimportant and even here look at your audience If I start talking about something political right now, your whole audience will be like, fuck this shit, I'm leaving.

1:31:32Even though that affects their life. So when you look at how they're marketing the music, if they go younger and younger and younger, you have a generation of rappers who are not politically minded. They got about 10, 15, maybe 20 years before they even start thinking about different social situations, unless it's a grandma or something. You don't think younger people are more inclined to be like social? No. No. In every country. That's why you were listening to fucking Talib Kuali. Listen, what I'm telling you is in every country, in every country that has ever been overthrown to the negative, where the country descended into chaos.

1:32:12Yeah. The leaders of the revolution has always been who? You know. Are you talking about? I'm thinking Iranian revolution, freaking all the revolutions where it ended up being fucked up. You're talking about the chosen people? Socialist revolution in China, all that. it's always the students why because no because young people they're not having an uprising because they're conscious of the political system they're having a uprising because it has provoked them emotionally so like i said you're more inclined to be socially uh activist when you're that age you're going to be emotionally activist emotional activist inclined to focus on issues like that as opposed to when you're a little bit older and you need to focus on money.

1:32:56You have a family. But when you're older, when you think to go do something, you're like, okay, I got to think about my financial situation. I got to think about how I'm going to feed my family. I could go out and protest, but I can't get too crazy because I can't go to jail because I got to pay my mortgage. When you're young, who gives a fuck? Exactly. I could go to jail. My mom's going to... Hence my initial point. They always do that. So all I'm saying is this. You notice that's why you got dudes like, Lil Brazy, the other Lil Mexican kids y 'all had up here. The rappers are becoming younger because they're trying to groom them at a young age.

1:33:31Oh, don't none of that other important shit matter. Only thing that matters what? Slide on the Ops. They don't even rap about getting bitches no more. Just to be fair, though, there's always kids rapping. Slide on the Ops is like the new recreation. Like Criss Cross and all that. There's always kids rapping and shit. It's just more like, it is way jankier. No, no, no. like, also too, bro, like, the real crime too with the music now is it took away people's curiosity for information. Understand, right? Is, yo, like, the real threat to the authority is the information. For example, Socrates got killed, bro, because while the other philosophers were at like Harvard, like the schools and shit, right?

1:34:17There was no Harvard in ancient Greece. No, no, no. No, no, no. Sorry. Trust me. No, sorry. No. Harvard is an example for the high institutions, right? That's how I write in the book, man. You know what you mean. Yeah, right? Because while the other philosophers were at the high institutions writing books, bro, Socrates, this old man, said, bro, I'm going to just go to the market and just ask people why. He didn't even tell you. He said, okay, yo, and who's your god? Socrates was doing what's called ethnographic research. Yeah. Where you go into the community. Yeah. And that's where you draw your conclusions from.

1:34:53Yeah. Yeah, and that's like the cornerstone. They're not right today. That's the cornerstone of the Socratic method of philosophy. And he became the. No, listen. L. Brandon. L. L. L. They don't want to hear this shit. And he became the most feared and most hated man because why? Right? We're in college right now. Right? Right. And he kept asking why. Why do you feel this way? Why do you think this way? They ain't school right now. And they said, yo, like you asking people why and making them think and curious to seek out their own information, that's a threat to us. And they so cold is they locked up Socrates and gave his peers the option to kill him.

1:35:33And the same niggas that he was asking, why do you feel this way? They gave him like the choice to kill him and they did. Yeah, of course. Right? So, bro. So is there any overlay with Brick, Baby, and Socrates? I'm just curious. Stop. Wait, wait, wait. You see, though? Lesh is the biggest villain at No Jumper because he knows better, but he still plays into this shit. I do have a fucked up sense of humor. I'm sorry. No, but you're 100 % right. Well, Brick for the man. What do you mean? That's not a joke. You're 100 % right because it's kind of the same thing with Donald Trump. Yeah. Why do you think Donald Trump appeals to so many millions of people?

1:36:13Because he's like, dude, your eggs are$7.99. I'm going to make them$2.99. Except your eggs are now$9.99 type shit. No, no, no. They went down. They went way down. They went way down. He's fucking us. But the thing is, whenever you have a populist, a person who asks the people to look at their current situation and make a decision on that, that's horrible for leadership. that pretty much, yeah, it doesn't, that's horrible for leadership that doesn't want you to think, they just want you to act based on emotion. Yeah. Wait, but speaking of Trump, though, the Epstein files, um... Ooh! Are we talking about Epstein files right now?

1:36:53Yeah, man. What's cracking? Yeah, so, yeah, you'll pause this video, too, Josh? I'm glad we off that subject. What's up with your boy, Brandon? Yeah, so, alright, look, man, so, uh, the FBI and the DOJ, they, uh, released joint statements saying that Epstein did indeed kill himself and um and he had no other co-conspirators who abused children with him that was a lie so they're saying that epstein and gisley maxwell they trafficked those children for their own self-gratification because gisley was also convicted of having sexual i guess intercourse or acts with those minors as well um so is am i am i reading this incorrectly or they accept interest trying to put it all on them.

1:37:37No, no, no. Everyone's indiscretion. No, no, no. So, again, and they're saying that Epstein and Gisley Maxwell were the only one who abused children. And this retelling of history that they trafficked people to this island so wealthy and powerful men could engage in minors is all false and Epstein killed himself. Now, and they released like a video footage of the Epstein quote-unquote cell. Wait, Brandon, what a well? Yeah. Oh, uh, uh. I was literally like a penguin. Right? I thought I was a penguin. Yeah, right. No, man. So Trump is now being asked about this because folks saying, bro, obviously, like, this is a lie, right?

1:38:19Like, obviously, you feel me? Trump looked like he'd been eating some of those fetuses. He got that adrenochrome. He's, like, getting younger. It's crazy. Man. So, yeah. Let's hear what Trump got to say. Trump don't even look like that orange no more. Yeah, he's less orange. He's 80 now, so. He looks healthier and okay.

1:38:41At least he's alive like Joe Biden's. Yeah, the connection. Yeah, if it don't load up, we could just break down what took place in the video.

1:38:52Yeah, dude, all I know is that Trump's on blast and Brandon's quiet as a mouse and that's the crazy thing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He got a call. No, let's just keep it to stack, though. You feel me? Because Trump, that's his dog. Brandon once referred to Trump as the beacon of transparency. That was a direct quote. The beacon of transparency. Well, if you believe, though, if you're under the assumption that they're lying and that Epstein was like a Mossad agent who brought kids to this island and then used these kids to entice and blackmail politicians and celebrities. If that's your thought process, then you would probably say, okay, Trump is not being transparent because Trump was allegedly one of those celebrities.

1:39:51I just don't feel like this right here exonerates anything. I don't feel like we've seen anything new that really changes the dynamic. And I feel like it's super convenient. And it's like there's got to be a fall guy. And now it's all just Epstein and Maxwell. You feel me? It's not any of these other people. All these other famous people that you hold in such a high regard, let's just forget about them. Let's not hold them accountable in any regard. It's just Epstein that was doing it. He's just a twisted-ass fool. Sounds a bit convenient for me. I don't know. Oh, look. And the one victim, like Virginia Goff, right?

1:40:31She's the one who provided a picture of herself with Prince Andrews and Gislin Maxwell when she was 14, 15 years old. She got a settlement from Prince Andrews. While the FBI and the... I think they was reinvestigating this, right? Mysteriously, she committed suicide too. and this was last no this was in april right so the only victim left who's saying no the fbi is lying we was trafficked in on his island and there was high profile prominent men again because she shows herself like on the island with prince andrews and gisley maxwell so she showed herself yo not like like like bro like bro like these politicians they that's kind of like I feel like that fortifies my point.

1:41:22Yeah, you feel me? I don't think that, like, whatever, I don't know what the specifics or the new, if the evidence essentially just says, oh, it was all Epstein, hell no, y 'all believe that? So all these famous people ain't do nothing wrong, and it was all just, that sounded a little crazy to me. I don't know what y 'all think. No, here, right? Is that crazy? No, last question there, right? Okay. Do you believe that Trump was one of those people who went to the island and engaged with I can't say I have any evidence. Josh, don't do that because if you agree with that, then but would it also, Josh, have to agree with now Epstein is a Mossad agent, right?

1:42:06But here's the thing I'm not saying that that's true. You said Epstein is a what? A Mossad agent. It'd be crazy when I had certain stuff happen. Oh, go ahead. No, no, no. I'm not. Here's the thing. Okay, so Lush, do you believe that too? I don't know anything about that. You feel me? Israel used Epstein to blackmail American politicians. Would that shock me? No. You feel me? But I don't think they really... Look, I feel like Israel's already at one with American politics. Huh? I feel like we move on the same accord. They might as well be... In 1985, but they sold... Wait, wait, wait. But Paul, bro.

1:42:46In 1985, it's not confirmed now, bro. Again, they sold top secret information from the U.S. I think it was like the Marines or something like that, right? They took the fall for it, bro. They sold top information to the Soviet Union in exchange for 50 ,000 Jews to relocate back to Israel. So I'm saying if our top ally is reselling our top secret military information to the Soviet fucking Union, how are you saying that they were always locked in with us? I'm not even saying that they're our top ally. At this point, dynamics change. Israel is a part of the U.S. at this point, bro. That is us in the Middle East.

1:43:32Like, do you not get that? Israel is literally, I guess Puerto Rico technically should be the 50th, they're the 52nd state in this motherfucker. Where are those Japanese people outside? I'm not sure. They all want to take a picture with me. That's why they're right outside. It's crazy. Where? Yeah. Hey, hey. Okay. Do y 'all feel like Epstein really passed away? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, nah, nah, bro. He for sure dead. Now, now. Do you really think so? Now, here, what I will say, though. It'd be like crazy situations, bro. Like, it don't be no proof of nothing. You know what I mean? Now, wait, pause.

1:44:09Why are we taking away hosts to take pictures with Japanese people? You want to get this picture on? They love us. Like, even like we're all the way back to the Bin Laden days. Mikey, what are we doing? Okay. Even like with the Bin Laden days, you feel me? They say this person, they got them, whatever the case may be. Yeah. Why ain't never no funerals? It ain't never know nothing about these people. No Again like he for sure died Cause like we seen the pictures Like he Bin Laden had a funeral out at sea Bruh You think AI just came out? Nah bro But we seen like Epstein's like dead body bro Do you think AI just came out And even Epstein's dead body It's a picture right?

1:44:56Yeah Yeah a picture Yeah bro Flacco you can lay on this floor right now We can say Flacco dead And take a picture of your ass That's true bro You can see it on like Let's make him look a little pale, B. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's the type of shit that goes on, though. The thing. What are we doing? I just got fired, bro. I'm just playing. What are the Japanese people out there? Even Dormer. What was his name? Christopher Dorner. Chris Dorner. Come on now, bro. That fool is fool. He went on a rampage, right? Yeah. They unaligned him, right? Yeah. And we never heard nothing else again.

1:45:31Come on, bro. No funeral, no nothing. No family members coming out. You know that that fool wasn't getting an open casket regarding this. Are you kidding, bro? Well, you know that. He didn't have a daughter, no sister, no cousin, no family member, no nothing saying nothing about him. Yeah. Come on, bro. The thing is. Man, all this shit is a hoax, bro. Black will be trusting the government and all that. All this shit is a hoax, bro. So you think Tupac alive? I'm not going to say Tupac is alive. But what I would say is a lot of this shit is a hoax, bro. I feel because they just be trying to hide what's really going on.

1:46:07They want to distract you with this. Man, Pop was the greatest CIA plant I think I've ever seen, my nigga. But there's two... What? There's two reasons. Go ahead, Brandon. To me, there's two reasons for that, right? A lot of people have that sentiment and there's two reasons. One is we live in a society where once we get a basic summary of what's going on, we stop paying attention, right? So what I'm learning in my journey on YouTube is like, there are a lot of explanations for a lot of things that are out there. We just didn't have the time or desire to go research and find it out. Like, I, too, said the same thing about bin Laden like you.

1:46:48Why did they bury his body at sea? Maybe they really didn't get him. Maybe it was all bullshit. Too out of his customs. But no, no, that wasn't it. They buried his body at sea because they said what the Arabs do, they'll enshrine the tomb of somebody and then make that like a catalyst or like a symbol to call for jihad, right? So they'll basically deify this dude, and then you'll be dealing with like even thousands more years long war. That's how you got to do me when I do it. It'll make them a martyr. A lot of baby bin Laden. It'll make him a martyr. Y 'all better deify me and make me a martyr for some turnt up shit when I die.

1:47:31But when you see people, soldiers, what 90 % of them got an neck, a cross with Jesus on it. That's a martyr. And they use that as fuel to go fight. I mean, the Crusades were all about Jesus. 100%. Thousands of people died. So I get that. But when you talk about Epstein, you have to think about the psychological impact certain things will have on society. That is the burden of leadership, right? You could say, let's release the Epstein files. And basically, you'll be telling the American people, you have all these hundreds of pedophiles or whatever sitting on Capitol Hill. Now, what is the immediate reaction to that?

1:48:10Is it an immediate call for civil war? Does it lead to civil unrest? Now people are burning down cities. does it make our society break down to the point where America is now vulnerable? So I understand why. That's a crazy point. I understand why they might withhold something like that. But they shouldn't have. No, it's like saying this. It's like this. Say your dad is like, say your dad died, right? And then, you know, dad used to mess with trannies or something, but you didn't know. Well, when you're at his funeral, what good does that serve? Right. The information may be true, but it ain't impacting nothing.

1:48:46Let the skeleton stay in the closet. But no, hold on. Real quick. Yeah. If there's hundreds of government officials that would literally change the whole entire dynamic of the way the country's run, if exposed. Don't matter. No, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying we have way fucking bigger problems than we realize. If it's like that, fuck. Or if it is, bro. We're fucked. I'm saying and if communal harmony is predicated on protecting the hundreds who fuck children then I don't want harmony nigga then let's get chaos right expose the niggas and let's find out who was doing it again bro and if Trump is involved and we gotta shut this bitch down then shut it down it's never gonna happen the only time that's gonna happen is if one of them people who was supposedly messing with the children became an outlaw.

1:49:45You know what I'm saying? Somebody who they not fucking with no more. Oh, we're going to let him take the fall for all this shit. Epstein was the fall guy, right? That's how Epstein was. You feel me? Epstein, boom. Okay, Epstein is quote unquote gone now, right? Okay. Somebody else go pop up. That's how they get rid of people. Come on, bro. But think about this. Let's expose it. It don't matter. We got to protect the kids. Okay, does you exposing that create civil unrest? Now your kids are unsafe? See what I'm saying? You have to weigh the risk and the reward. On top of that, when you have someone like Donald Trump, who has enacted more legislation to protect children from sex trafficking than any other president, there's all...

1:50:27The bar has been set pretty low before. Yes, it's been low. But Trump has literally signed, I think, maybe six or seven bills into law that directly protect children from being trafficked, that directly protect women from being trafficked. So is it like this? Do we do we just expose it for sensationalism and gossip or do we find out the information and start actually doing something about it? But that's not gossip. I don't need to know if you're doing something about it. No. Yes. exposing the people who fuck children ain't gossip right like that's literally saying yo bro let's hold the niggas who did this accountable because clearly bro Epstein and Gislin Maxwell weren't the only two people who fuck kids on that island okay right cabinet members you think is that and Trump knows this could be so if it is that bad then there definitely should be at least some checks and balances and put into but if you don't have enough evidence expose the names who did it but if you don't have listen though you can't do that people are going around killing people.

1:51:28Listen to me. It's both names who do it and you die. So what? Kill niggas who do it. Not even for that reason. You then have to put these people on trial and prove that they did this. Of course. Epstein in them is all dead. So pretty much most of them gonna walk. But what happens if you create a bunch of vigilantes who are now out there hunting down politicians? You have to be responsible with everything you do Flocko. You know that. It don't matter bro. Politicians are hunting down little kids type shit type shit which is. But what if there's one who's not but he's on the list and someone kills him because they think he did something because he's on the list.

1:51:58Man, why the fuck is you on the list, bruh? See what I'm saying? Now that becomes Vigilante Justice. No, no, no, no, bro. I agree. I'm against Batman. However. No, no, Fim, bro. I love Batman. No, Fim, bro. Bro, bro, bro, bro. He was such a, bro, like, he was such like a, like, like, like, like a freak for, like, information, bro, that he wrote down every phone conversation he ever had and logged it and kept it. that nigga has a journal has a list somewhere nigga of who was on that island doing what but Flacco he had records of niggas he phone conversations just randomly right so bro so again if he has that information and we know who was involved fucking kids but I don't care how bad of a shit was you involved in on a regular basis for you to record every single one of those phone calls but look at what they he was an agent but look they said the same shit about Diddy but once we went into Diddy's shit we realized Diddy wasn't really doing nothing that was illegal he did some domestic violence but we thought Diddy was like the worst nigga ever he's just a freaky nigga but hey wait look but this time 10 years ago if you would have told people man Diddy a pedophile everybody would have been like yeah of course he does that but once we took peeled the layers on the banana we realized damn he's just a freaky dude he ain't no evil sadistic dude that can be with anybody that's why you have a trial so you can find out what really happened and because Epstein is dead you can't have that we gotta bring them other people to trial because whatever it is or whatever need to happen for whatever process what you gonna charge him with I don't know but I'm gonna say this cause I know motherfucking league whatever the specific things are Gizli not dead it depends on the individual but I'll say this if motherfuckers is so is so invested in protecting the anonymity of people that are potential child predators, I don't fuck with that.

1:54:02Expose all these people the same way I would... If any of my partners is doing that, you no good. If it's a family member, I don't fuck with you. Charge them with trafficking too. Gislet Maxwell can still testify. We don't protect our own homies when they do shit like that. No, I get that. But where do you start? What's the charge based on what evidence? her name's on this list and this list goes to this dude's house? No, you have... Wait, though. You have the literal, like, second in charge who's doing 20 years. Okay. She... Bro, I 100 % believe, my nigga, that that bitch is talking. And what did she get convicted of?

1:54:40Huh? What did she get convicted of? Of sex trafficking. Okay, so why didn't she just start just giving out all the names? Well, no, no. Bro, her and Epstein, because she was allegedly like, and who put on Epstein to be like a, like a intelligence agent, right? Right. As he went through her. So I'm saying, yo, these people are clearly connected to something much powerful. And if she got to sit down for 20 years, then she probably say, hey, fuck it, bro. You feel me? Right. Like, it's much better off than me talking and being killed. But I'm saying if you have the information and everything that we need, the list, the timestamps, the everything, make that bitch turn.

1:55:27Do whatever you got to fucking do to make that bitch squeal. But is there any chance that they just don't have enough information to bring charges up? That is possible. Because these people are not dumb, bro. They're very intelligent people. But if they have logs to the degree that Flacco explained, there's got to be some more evidence, right? Wait. Okay, cool. What, though? They could just destroy shit. We're not even saying, yo, charge them. Okay, cool. If you don't got proof, then release all the files. Release everything y 'all have and let the people go through it and make up their own conclusion, right?

1:56:02It's the Freedom of Information Act, right, where we have a right as Americans to see all the files you guys have, every log, everything, and let us see who on them flights with them where they went, how they got there, how long they stayed on that island, and hey, if y 'all don't want to say, hey, bro, Bill Gates, these niggas trolling in and out, they'll let the people do it themselves. But, but, but, when you post a 12-hour video. This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects.

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1:57:26College Football Labor Day weekend continues Saturday and Sunday on ABC and the ESPN app. Because of a cell that's not even his, that has no direct sight to his cell, it just becomes performative now. You know why? So, like, the 12-hour video means nothing and it doesn't prove that he didn't kill himself. So then why post it? Because it's not performative now, right? Why? These niggas are doing whatever in their power to make us believe there's nothing else, opposed to just releasing everything. You feel me? Now, though, there are some freak niggas out there who's been asking for the actual videos.

1:58:07No, nigga. No, nigga. No, nigga. They want to see it. No, listen. Wow. I don't even care if y 'all blur it out. Nigga, no. So you don't think FC killed himself? Hell nah, man. You think they iced that fool? Man, come on, bro. I mean, there's a lot of famous people who break down and kill themselves. Virginia golf killed herself, too, bro? I don't think he downed himself. Right? I wouldn't be surprised how there was. Bro, listen, bro. The last victim. Big high profile shit like this happen. And all of a sudden just. Come on, bro. Prince Andrew's victim killed herself April of 2025. After writing to the public, I'm not suicidal.

1:58:45Nigga, it don't make sense, bro. Right? He knew. Bro, everybody involved. Man. Well, the thing with Trump, too. You know, the guy who was the lead investigator on the Epstein situation. He said when he hit up Donald Trump, Donald Trump was like, let me know whatever you need. Like, I'm down to talk, testify, whatever. So there has to be some reason why he's not releasing the file. Bro, Finn, listen, bro. Trump has literally wrote the book on deny, deny, deny. Even if they catch you, deny. So just say, yeah, nigga, talk to what you need. Nigga, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. That's not true.

1:59:21Nigga, hell no, that's not true. Donald Trump, you're an asshole. But your name is on the list. Nigga, nah, nigga, nah, nah. That's the crazy thing because, Brandon, as much you question everything and that's one of the things I respect about you. Why do you accept everything that's said about Trump? I'm not accepting anything. I think Trump's a piece of crap for not releasing the files. Okay. I would say he should be investigated, but he's the most investigated person in history. You love Trump, but you're not being biased. I don't give a fuck about that. If he's doing something wrong, no, if Trump did something wrong to children, he should be held accountable 100%.

1:59:52I think most Trump supporters would feel like that. And would it shock anyone in this room? And I'm not putting that on him. But what did shock anyone in this room if it turned out that Trump did some shit that was a little janky like that? It would shock me because I feel like the Democrats, they hate Trump so much. They spent four years just investigating, bro. So if Trump really did something, it would have gotten... Do you think the Democrats wouldn't have exposed even a part of the Epstein file if they thought that that was enough to get Trump... I'm sure there's a lot of that on there, too, though.

2:00:23Nah, bro. You open up the window down, bro. Because before you put out Trump, you put out... Now, Gizzo can get put out now. These people hate Trump so bad. They literally destroyed their whole party just to try to villainize Trump. I think they would have, even if they just said we're only going to release the shit about him. What? Nah, bro. Because once you do that, bro, guess what I do now? Now guess what? Obama, George Clinton, Gates, Soros, that's got to come out too. Internal affairs. Y 'all don't ever think that Trump is so powerful. So what if people got information on him? That shit would never come out.

2:01:00obviously. Trump's base won't care if he's fucking kids, bro. I don't think Trump... He's too powerful, bro. His base will literally see a video of his fucking kids and won't care. A billionaire before presidency, now you're the president. Now your best friend, Elon Musk. Come on, bro. It's too much money involved, bro. But if you think... If Trump is that powerful, how did he get indicted by Manhattan DA? How did he end up getting put in jail? And what happened with him? And what happened with him? He got indicted and still became president. He got convicted on what? Listen. He's Teflon. Listen to what you're saying.

2:01:38He got convicted, right? And he still became president. Man, Teflon, man. He's too powerful. How much time did Trump do? None. Exactly. He's too powerful. Trump proved that he's so powerful that I can commit crimes, get a felony. I'm not going to go to jail, nigga. And I'm going to still be president. But there's no - I'm untouchable. But there's no one in history who was that powerful who actually even stood trial, bro. Like Stalin didn't like stand trial. Like Hitler didn't stand trial. No. They couldn't. If Trump was a top Nazi official officer, though. Did that you? Hitler stood trial? No.

2:02:14Nah. He didn't make it to Kronberg, unfortunately. He didn't make it. He killed himself. Before. Before he became chancellor. Before he became chancellor. Okay, we're not getting into the history. No. Hitler still tried when he was a part of the beginning stage He was in a socialist party Before the Nazis He was never held accountable for Geneva Convention war crimes What are you talking about? So Hitler and some guys staged a coup Brought guns, you feel me? Socialist party And Hitler went and was charged He went to prison And became president He went to prison for that though And Trump didn't go to prison.

2:02:53Trump didn't go to prison. That's my point. Trump is untouchable. Trump didn't go to prison because the charges were bogus and basically they vacated the charges. It's not because he's so powerful. They couldn't really, basically he got up. So how did he get convicted? Because anybody can convince you. If the charges were so bogus, he would have never got a conviction. Because the jury was biased against him. Everyone knows that. Fools were ready to talk about it. No, even Harvard lawyers were saying there's no way he could have a trial in New York. Fools were flirting with impeachment. for Bill Clinton for getting his dick sucked by his ugly ass.

2:03:24Can I ask you a question? Lush, Lush. Did not Harvard law professors who are Democrats say that there was no way Trump could get a fair trial in Manhattan? Obviously. So everyone knew that he was going to get convicted because of the political climate. Those were not his peers. But the conviction meant nothing. No, they're not his peers. The conviction meant nothing. He's a president. A felony doesn't bar you from becoming president. Trump owned a bill. Trump probably owned a building he stood a trial in, bro. We keep on moving the standard, right? Again, in this country, what's the standard? Innocent until proven guilty.

2:04:01Yes. And the ultimate test is a jury of your peers. Now for Trump is, after the jury of your peers found you guilty, is, man, listen, man, it was corruption. Which, again, those charges were so minuscule. They were bullshit. And they had to fluff it up that they went out of, like, again, they went out of their way to charge him. But he still did some foul shit, though. Right? Listen, let me tell you. He tried to be sneaky. But, Flacco, you're not done, Flacco. You know. He tried to be sneaky, though, bro. You know that there are certain constituencies that where a certain type of person can't get a fair trial there.

2:04:41So they do this. This is precedent. They'll move your trial to another place where you can't get a fair trial. that's like me saying this Flacco you gonna be on trial for whatever and then we gonna pick 12 people from No Jumper audience you'll be like hell no I'm not getting a fair trial so what they would do is they would take you mass shooters do that too though yeah they would take you to another state and that's why they were trying to move Trump's trial out of Manhattan because they knew it wouldn't be fair they did not want to do that because Judge Merchan his daughter where could Trump get a fair trial at though you've heard Trump you get a Kentucky yeah Florida Georgia Georgia?

2:05:15Georgia? Yeah, yeah. You're fucking in a form. Yeah, his base is a fair trial. Fucking hilarious, bro. Man. Arizona? That's not a fair trial. Man, cut it out, my nigga. That's not a fair trial. No, it's got to be a swing state. Neither is New York. No, no, it's got to be a swing state. So he can't get it. You're like Ohio somewhere. So Trump can't get Ohio. Yeah. Something that switches. Yeah. A swing state. A swing state, right? Michigan. Nevada. Let's do Michigan. Nevada. Or Nevada. Perfect. Because he took Nevada after a long time. That's what I'm saying. Swing state. He took Nevada after like 20 years of that shit.

2:05:42Whatever. Yeah, bro. He's also the president, bro. So, like. Yeah. I don't think Trump can get a fair trial nowhere. He was the president, bro. Like, is that? You know how much money you're in Nevada? Nah, bro. But, like, it's, like, hard to find 12 people. They're going to say he's innocent. You feel what? Yeah, bro. Like. And I don't charge him. Yeah, yeah. He built. It's hard to find. No, bro. Like, it's, like, hard to find 12 people who don't know who the president is and don't got no biases towards the president. Exactly. How do you not have no biases? Listen, bro, that shit they did was so disrespectful.

2:06:14There has never been a president brought up on charges and stand in trial like that in the history of our country. So the fact that, no. So the fact that they. He's sending the president for some janky shit. No, but look. But look. They, listen, they brought him up on such. Do y 'all really think that the jury found, even though he has a conviction, do y 'all really think the jury found him guilty? They were told, listen, they were told. Or do you think they told them, you know what, we're going to find Trump? 100%. Nah, bro. So he can look like he's not untouchable? It's New York, bro. But guess what?

2:06:48Bro. You go get a felony? But guess what? It doesn't matter. They probably paid the jurors. You're a billionaire. Hmm? It was just like, you know, if you ever been to jail, they'll take one thing and expand it to a bunch of different things. But listen. They let that dude go. P-nice. Trump, we going to convict you, all right, bro? We're going to give you a felony and everything, but guess what? You're still going to be president. You're still a fucking billionaire. You're not trying to get no fucking job, so what if you got a felony? Be nice. In one aspect, you are right because, remember, they did bring up an investigation on Merchan because they said he talked to the jurors before they came with the verdict, and the jurors went and said he basically told us that we had to find him guilty.

2:07:34That's facts. He went in and explained it to the jurors in a way to where he basically said, look, you guys can't find him not guilty. And they went out there and said, guilty all come. That was true, though. That's wrong. A judge can't do that. Listen, if you told them you have to find guilty, it's different. Look it up. He never said you have to find guilty, though. Do you understand that the judge's daughter is a campaign finance fundraiser? for the Democrat Party. He should have never even sat on that case. Am I wrong? No, what does that mean, though? There's political bias there. Merchant has donated millions to the Democrat Party.

2:08:19They should have moved it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just telling you that. That's too broad, though, right? They gave him that conviction. That's too broad, right? If you say it, right, right, hey, listen, bro. It's not broad. If you are a judge who has any family member in politics, you can see this case is crazy, bro. Okay, what did they convict Trump for, Josh? No, no, no. So you're telling me every Supreme Court justice should recuse themselves if their partner is involved in any type of political party fundraising? They should recuse themselves if they are in the middle of an election and they have given money.

2:08:53But this wasn't the middle of the election. Yes, it was. This was in the middle. You're picking up any time in a four-year span? Y 'all just said anything. The trial happened during the election. No, bro. It was a year before. What? Yeah. Man, whatever. It was before. Bro, we're talking about, you know what I'm talking about. It's doing a campaign. It was like, like, listen, listen, man. No, bro. Okay, so you can never. No, bro. No, no. Listen, to make it fair. Listen, first of all, this place is run by radical leaders, right? That's what this is. Oh, my God. But let me tell you this. If we were truly being fair, we would have just suspended the trial till after the election.

2:09:35you don't do that. You don't have a trial. That's kind of a bad look, though, if the president gets convicted. Listen, he got convicted and still won. Yeah, exactly. Get it out of the way. But you don't do it when it can impact the results of an election. Understandably. Do you understand how? Yeah, of course. You have that same energy for Hillary Clinton when she was running in 2016. Yes, yes, that would have been wrong to do. It would have been wrong. It was even wrong to do what they did to Biden right before the election. You're just a hypocrite. If it's Democrats, it's fine. If it's Republicans.

2:10:07Listen, man. No, they both janky. There has never been a president put on trial. There hasn't even been a presidential candidate put on trial leading up to an election. Not a front runner. Now, if he was like way back in the shit. Okay. They did it to try to sway the election. And they lost, Josh. You lost, Josh. Whether you like it or not. Dude, you are so stuck on this point that this was election interference. that this was... It was election interference. No, it wasn't. Okay. These cases were being brought up against him years and years. The timing of... So why didn't they do this two years ago?

2:10:44Yeah. Why didn't they do this two years ago? They did. Bro. The legal system takes time to get to trial. What? Man, y 'all crazy as fuck. What do you mean? This old lawyer ratted him out, bro. Like, if I mean... This was years and years ago. Bro, his lawyer recorded him and saved the audio just to use it against him. Again, this was a clear cut. He's guilty. Y 'all crazy as fuck if y 'all really think they found Trump guilty from a real jury. They didn't find him guilty from a real jury. They want to believe that. You think you need to brainwash people in New York to find him guilty? You're out of your mind.

2:11:17I feel like Trump was wrong with whatever he was doing, right? Man, he wasn't wrong. Don't say that shit. It ain't wrong to pay a ho. I do. Nah, but look. You can't lie about it, though. It's on the record. They found Trump guilty. Okay. But you can't lie about it, man. You a felony. Okay. What came with that felony? Probation, right? No. No, he didn't get nothing. If they acated the conviction, he's not a felon. Oh, shit. Because they knew. Listen. Yeah, I know that one. Because it was bullshit from the jump. Exactly. Josh. Josh. They found him guilty just so they could take the shit back. Hey, yo, Trump, we're going to convince you.

2:11:48In a couple months. Let me tell you this. We're going to take that shit away from you. Look, look, look. Say you interacted with a woman, right? The woman come at you. She like, yo, he did this or that to me, right? We had sex. Trump is like that. Trump's lawyer is on it. He's like, man, look, we're going to pay this chick off, whatever, just to shut her up. So Trump's lawyer pays her with his own money. Later on, he sends you an invoice. I paid her$180 ,000. Pay me back my money. Trump pays him back, and on his tax file, he puts legal expense. If you pay your lawyer, is that not a legal expense?

2:12:26Nigga, no. Wait, why y 'all going to? We heard the voice recording, bro. Trump told him to do this. If you pay your lawyer, is that not a legal expense? Is that not a legal expense? We heard the voice recorders, bro. Trump played this shit from the beginning. It doesn't matter. Trump told him, hey, bro, I ain't trying to give her cash. Do this. But that's not what he got called for. They said he falsified his tax record. Yes. But paying a lawyer is a legal expense. No, he did that on purpose, though. That's hush money. Trump is uncomfortable, bro. You can't lie and say, hey, this is for... No, nigga.

2:13:04You told him specifically, I don't want to give her cash. You pay her, then I'm going to pay you on a back end. But what is illegal about that? You did it on purpose deceptively. No, nigga. No, no, no, no. That's for Stormy Daniels. It was on recording, right? The lawyer recorded him on purpose because he knew that what they were doing was wrong. It was not illegal. Okay. so once they found out right I'm pretty sure this was presented in the trial right yeah okay and he got convicted right yes and then they turned it back around right the charges got vacated what happened untouchable no no no no no no no no stop it bro he untouchable bro no pause right this is pure bullshit they postponed sentencing until after the election and then they vacated because Trump won and they couldn't do anything yeah bro P-9.

2:13:55The Constitution doesn't allow any room for that because we never... P-9. They will not admit this. Let's just admit it. There were Democrat supporting Harvard lawyers, people who teach law at Harvard. They were saying from jump. Tell me where I'm lying. They were saying from jump, this case is total bullshit. Every lawyer agreed on that. So if every lawyer from Harvard is telling you this is a bullshit case and they're Democrats, you know it's bullshit. It was just Alvin Bragg who ran on prosecuting Trump to get elected. He was abusing his power just to throw a bullshit case on Trump. And you know this, Josh.

2:14:37Yeah, we should. If someone who respects the Constitution and law, the fact that there was such blatant disregard for those things that were crossed. Just tell me what he did illegal. Just tell me what he did. There were more counts of what he did. What did he do? That was illegal. You can't even name one of them. We just told you, nigga. Name one. He falsified business records. No, he didn't. He falsified business records. That phone call showed that he planned on doing it. He lied on his path. Who did he give his money to? Who did he give his money to, Flacco? What? It don't matter, brother.

2:15:04Oh, so it don't matter. He gave it to his lawyer. That is illegal. Not illegal capacity. You're ignoring that part. Yeah, come on, bro. He did. He paid his lawyer. Nope. Okay. But you already know. The person who paid. That was not illegal. That's always what I get. You're not the other technicalities. Yeah. It's never like the main charge, right? You know that. Listen. So if I pay a doctor to fucking tell me, is that surgery? You said what? To do what? He's a doctor. What? Tell me. It's a medical expense. If you pay a doctor what? To do anything. Because now you're using the title. You can't list it as a metal expense.

2:15:33No, you can't. None of the things he's doing isn't fucking medical. Cosmetic. Let's say it's kind of. But what he is doing is legal. He's doing the non-disculture. It would be illegal. Bro, bro, bro. You can't give a chef some money for drugs and then say, you gave it to him for food. That would be illegal. That's what Trump did, nigga. I like that idea. No, but I'm trying to know. He paid a bitch off the... No, no, it's not the same. Because doing an NDA... It's the same. No, you're taking the title, bro. Penice, doing an NDA is a non-disclosure agreement. That's totally legal. That's all they did.

2:16:07If you do an NDA, that's different. But that's all they did was pay it for a non-disclosure. He put it on his tax expenses. As a legal expense because he paid his lawyer. The lawyer paid her. No, but to hide the fact that he paid a bitch... Nah, come on, Brennan. On taxes, he's supposed to say, I did an NDA with X, Y, and Z, blah, blah, blah. But he was hiding that. Because taxes are public information. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not hiding shit. You're hiding it. You write NDA on that bitch. Yeah, bro. That eliminates the NDA. Mine is most agreement. You hop on that phone and told him, hey, bro.

2:16:41The charges was vacant. I can't give her cash because they going to know. So hence It is not illegal To pay home And then I'll pay you back You know that I didn't lie about it But hey listen Folks this has been great Alright No jumper show man Oh it's over Nigga It's a wrap Nigga we done It's 240 We finished arguing About what's going on Oh yeah Josh The super chat Yeah sorry The defense partner I said you don't care About their money We hit a high today man We hit 5.6 I think right I'm taking that L personally I'm taking what personally You're taking this L personally No I already whooped Your ass on this topic At another time Nah nah nah Super chat, super chat.

2:17:16Trump is president. I won. $5. Okay. My boy said, Kane said, what does a Lush, what does a MacArthur Park margarita consist of? Can you feel me? A little bit of what a soldier boy says. You feel me? Nah. That's probably the meth K2 and that young Fetty Wap. Yeah, baby. Luke Mack with the$5. Bucci bear is a Dylan Brooks and no jumper. Annoying is hell and only good at one thing. Shout to the Real No Jumper supporters who've been here since 2017. I disagree. I'm also good at getting you to donate$5 to talk shit about me. Brandon Gold Crazy, you feel me? Most official with the$5 says, shout out Lush Uno, a.k.a.

2:17:56Meth O.D., man. Most underrated WCast, P-Nice, Overpilling Unc, any day. Shouts to the membership, Misunderstood Tribe, Jovan Pierre said that. Mina's reaction is Cloud Mania TV said, Do not let Sharp bait no jumper. Sharp is desperate. 100. AZ said, hey, P. Nice, what do you think about Flacco saying? Addison, stop hiring gang members and no jumper. $5 for AZ. My motherfucking business. He said the same thing twice. And then he said. Yeah, he's thirsty. For his third comment, he said, hey, P. Nice. Don't disrespect people. He didn't say it. He said mental illness the next one. Okay, sorry. Hey, P.

2:18:38Nice, what do you think about Flacco saying? You have a mental illness if you're a gang member. hey P-Nice what do you mean? And he asked by the way every nigga who has ever came here for the last like 10 episodes he writes the same donations. You ain't you ain't lying most of these niggas is though SSI ain't gonna lie to you bro like they be lying like No it's not even that bro like Hey P-Nice what do you think about Flacco calling King Peele a buster even though he would never say anything he's saying not to his face. Flacco said to his face? He's a buster man. Hey Flacco was in a mark out when 16 shot him.

2:19:14I don't want to read all this shit. Bro, Rita, spit back on him. Spit in your face and ran and hit behind AD. Oh, look. He also said, hey, Flacco was in a mark out when Almighty Sus was calling you a weirdo and yelling at you to your face. I don't tell you. You did nothing. Come on, bro. $5. I'm not going to read that, bro. Almighty is a bitch. You could tell he ain't want to fight Brandon after he learned he did MMA. Brandon would have tore that little dude a new asshole. And Lesh told me that on the phone too. He's like, I know you'd have whooped his ass. I mean, I think in a one-on-one, like, hey, he beat him in the fight, so I ain't really got too much room to talk, right?

2:19:52Wait, so you was gossiping behind your homie's back there? Behind your nephew's back. I mean, look, Brandon's obviously like a... I'm just a fat dude. You see these roles? I mean, if I would want Almighty to win, but I would probably... Well, you would want him to win as crazy. Dodd, bro, he hates your guts, man. I'm Brick and he just said that he would want for almighty till I whoop your ass at that moment nah that nigga cold man but I think that Brandon probably would get the best of him that don't mean that anyone's that don't mean you ain't he ain't your homie or you ain't down just keeping it a bundelli you feel me he beat my ass I can't say shit hey Camille said I'm Brick nephew I'm fat out of shape and don't eat none but junk and I smoke but I could whoop suspect ass I also wish Sus tried that shit with four extras wait wait Wait, but how you like Brick Nephew, but you don't like Suspect?

2:20:41Like Brick and Suspect are like really cool. There's been a lot of comments from quote-unquote Brick Nephew. It probably is Brick Nephew. It's unverified, right? You got to like everybody. Big Mouse Carter. Adam got to relax with the quickness to blank play. Proportional for us doesn't allow you to shoot when they swing, especially not in California. Adam said he was, oh, my bad. Six of stones, L.A. Adam said he was going to pay P.O. on the video of No Jumper. Brandon is right. Okay. I appreciate you, Sticks and Stones. Yeah, go ahead, be nice. The reason Flacco hates bangers so much is because they remind him of the people that used to bully him in school.

2:21:23Flacco's the biggest buster on that couch right now, but he calling other people busters. I don't agree with that. Yeah. I didn't really get bullied, man. I don't think there was hella gangbangers. I'll be real, bro. Bro. Bro. I'll be real, bro. I was lit. Like, I've never been, like, not like an interesting known nigga. Feel me, right? So I don't really see it. Yeah, I've never had, like, that experience in life. You feel me? Right? Right, like, back then, I was, like, sexy as fuck. And then when I got fat, I got rich. So I've always been, like, a lit nigga. You feel me? So, like, you feel me?

2:22:00Like, right, like, I've never been, like, a, you feel me? The rest of the Super Chats, man. Happy Night's got to go. Buzz with the clip. Shout out Lush. He really, for the community. It's a damn shame he understands culture more than Brandon, who is so pro-black, more like pro-coon in booty shorts. Freddie B Music. Shout out Lush. Ain't no label. Just an electrician with bars. Paid in full by Freddie B out now. Real music from real out of fire. Fire search. That are in the trade. Y 'all saw the electrician. Wait. It's like, that's the real life. Freddie P? Freddie P? say is that the one that the one that diddy did his thing to or no i don't know oh man i don't know okay prince drama you're wrong i listen to king von and little dirk and julio every day you can't say i'm out drilling or anything i'm thinking it's up to your environment etc interesting point uh prince that don't make sense at all yes it does there's a lot of fucking how does that make sense there's a lot of fucking square uh people in the suburbs of all people have a higher tolerance to that music and they're not going out there committing those crimes so you can't 100 % now I'm not going to die on the hill of that there's no influence in the music but to say that there's just so many factors that come into play Lush to say that the environment is not a bigger factor than the music is inaccurate and I've been saying that a kid in the suburbs with a two parent household who has life really great with no enemies whatsoever is less susceptible to gay making music than a kid in the trenches with no father, broke as fuck, don't got shit to eat, and nothing but fucking enemies, nigga.

2:23:34I just gotta understand, what is they supposed to rap about? Because at the end of the day, they're rapping about their life experiences. Huh? If they living that life, if they waking up... But there's ways to rap with... Again, again, again, there's ways to rap about your struggle with follow... Again, for example, you can't say, hey, if you shoot below the waist, you's a bitch-ass nigga. That's glorifying it now, nigga. Opposed to, hey, nigga, I had to duck shop my entire life. But again, once you glorify it now, hey, you ain't gangsta if you got two bodies or less. Nigga, you was glorifying it now.

2:24:09Also, the rappers back in the day could have been doing Drew Rap. They just weren't stupid enough to snitch on themselves on a damn song. That's true. The only thing I like about this, as far as statistically, it's a lot more people rapping, but they capping. they talking about all this street shit but they rapping and capping you feel me so the drill music a lot of these people not really doing that shit bro right so I'd rather them go in a booth and be the biggest serial killer in the world you feel me instead of them being in the streets really doing it you know what I mean so it's a lot of capping and they rapping bro no no no what about horrorcore music Brother Lin Chung wasn't really like eating people and doing all that he was rapping about it and wound up having a very good career No, but you have that like...

2:24:56A lot of people just like to hear it. No, but you have that like opinion because you are not a hater and you have made out well in life. But the number one people who are against cap rapping are the dusty street niggas who are doing it and who done killed 20 niggas and they still broke. Those niggas were watching a young kid making millions of dollars off of lying about bodies and gang banging and oh nah bro like bro again the same niggas is doing 20 hour youtube live streams trying to expose this just like 20 year old kid who is rap capping because he's making millions of dollars and they really did it so nah bro again don't rap cap and don't glorify filming just you know just talk about your type of experiences you feel me or a be an actual artist right bro here like the elite authors don't write about all the things they went through.

2:25:54No, they're able to put themselves in other people's shoes and tell stories. So if you're somebody who wants to rap and you're incapable of putting yourself in somebody else's shoes and telling a story that people can relate to, then don't do it, bro. You feel me? If they're an author, you feel me? It's artistry. Yeah, they're trying for their personal experience. For their personal experience or other people's experience. Yeah, of course. That's just like saying, okay, if we go hate on the real rappers and hate all them, whatever. What about the directors? Exactly. What about the screenwriter?

2:26:23How is Quentin Tarantino? It's not the same. What about Menace Society? What is the difference between Quentin Tarantino and E.E.E.? I will tell you right now, Lush. Again, we found out from the radio, right, where yo, you can't play the same songs more than three times in an hour block. You know why? Because they've recognized that music is hypnosis, meaning this. If you listen to a song once and you hate it, by the fifth listen, you're going to start fucking with it. So music is hypnotic. Again, like books and movies aren't, right? So hence, you have to police and regulate the music because the music will, again, it would change your DNA and just hypnotize, right?

2:27:03So, no, bro. A rapper and a director is completely different. A rapper makes... I argue video games are more influential than music at this point. But you said movies. Yeah, but I'm saying... A rapper, you listen to the song, okay, you get hypnotized over the song, right? What you think these kids doing when they see it actually on a movie? You can listen to the song on the radio, or you can see it in a movie how he shot, how he dressed, how he put this blue or red rag on. If a kid watch a movie about gay niggas kissing and sucking dick, it's not going to make that kid want to kiss and suck dick.

2:27:36But I guarantee you, if that kid listened to Saucy Santana for 30 minutes a day for one week, and he going to start starting from sucking dick too. So why are these parents out here getting upset because of the television is like forcing homosexuality? Why are these parents getting mad about that? Because it's forcing their base. Because they're bad parents. Yeah, because they're dumb. They're bad parents. But what I would say about - That's not a bad parent. Well, what I would say is like, if you're parenting your kid and doing, you know, the right thing, I think you have less to worry about as far as your kid being influenced by the music or movie.

2:28:15What I would say to your question about the movie is this. When I watched Boys in the Hood, I saw the negative. It played out the story totally from something you might admire and say, dang, I wish I could do that, all the way to like, yo, I don't want that to happen. It gave you like the highlight and the low light, which is niggas dying. When you look at the music, these dudes are glorifying everything, and you really don't see the downside until they end up dead. And that's when people really start jocking their music. And people actually start glorifying them more when they die. Because even though all those movies are technically cautionary tales.

2:28:50The cautionary tales. Yeah, that's what they are, technically, but that's not what's glamorized. Do you want to get shot up by, like, Kane at the end of Menace Society? Hell fucking no. That's going to make me not gangbent. No, you want that double burger with cheese. And that's what fucking people are glorifying. But it goes two ways, though, bro, because it's both. We can't just say that the music is bad and the music, I mean, the movies are, oh, but at the end. So just know. What about Scarface? Facts. You see, Scarface started broke. He made it to the high time, high life. Then he got killed.

2:29:25Ain't nobody saying, oh, no, I don't want to do that. Everybody out here, oh, I'm Scarface. Oh, I'm moving like Scarface. I'm doing this I'm doing that I'm doing this they're glorifying movies but they only want the positives but they don't but they don't never talk about no one says man I want to go out getting shot up and fall in the face versus a polycocaine they do though they say oh he went out like a sad Scarface right he went out like a sad you know you know the people you know the people who are living say that about people who are dead but the people who are dead they're like man I probably should have did something different but no I agree with what you're saying though overall it's parenting you know what I mean So overall, it's parenting.

2:30:02Anybody blaming a music or a movie for your kids and how they turn out, you are trying to take the onus off of you as a parent. It's not just parenting, though, because a lot of it. Yeah, but we should get up. A lot of it. Get up to the environment. My bad. Yeah, environment too. It's 3 p.m. Let's read a brief. Charles White said he used to G word or R word woman. I don't understand why his opinion on morality matters. White and Chinese women and babies should be R worded. That's what AZ said also. We covered that. Gator the Fader said where the fuck can I buy merch fellow New Hampshire Adam I think it's awesome that New England has a representation on that west coast shout out to you brother he's not from New England though New Hampshire okay he said a New Hampshireite did I read it wrong New Hampshire is in fact a part of New England but oh word okay yeah see how you know man bless from the bear you think we can see a third party rise up and expose both Democrats and Republicans as we get true democracy system for us hell no Hell no Elon has started the American Party now Why does Brandon prop his bulge up every episode?

2:31:07Why are you looking at Brandon's bulge, gang? Music is more influential than movies People know there's a big difference between movies, actors, and rappers with actual street rap I grew up in the 90s when Tupac was our biggest rapper So I disagree with that statement But I felt what he means Wait, wait, what? Well, Tupac was an actor Don't join the third party Don't listen to us joining the fucking third party. It won't do anything. There's plenty of parties. They don't do shit. Yeah, we got him. Appreciate y 'all. See y 'all tomorrow. Me and Lush are going to talk for another 10 hours. P-Nice, man.

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