In short
Topic
The NJ Show #358 is a wide-ranging conversation mixing personal stories, drug/party culture commentary, and internet-rap drama. It covers (1) memory/recognition and social accountability, (2) the economics and risks of warehouse parties and the nitrous (βGalaxy Gasβ) scene, (3) drug effects and timingβespecially on podcast guests, (4) speculation and context around a recent stabbing involving Top5 in the UK (and how it may connect to Toronto gang conflict), and (5) the βKing Pill vs Adam22/No Jumperβ fallout plus King Pillβs later behavior after the podcast. A major late segment focuses on King Pillβs explanation of why he felt disrespected and how he views βdissingβ other hoods/neighborhoods.
Guests (who they are)
Adam Pressed (host/rapper figure in the conversation) and King Pill (rapper). The episode also repeatedly references other people as part of stories and examples: Top5 (Toronto rapper), Brick Baby (mentioned via a past interview), T-Rail and Academics (Turks & Caicos clip discussion), Ant/βAnt Hefeβ (referenced as someone who will arrive to discuss the King Pill topic), and Zeus/βIBM dudesβ (mentioned as possible connections).
Guest backgrounds (as described in the episode)
King Pill is a rapper who says he expects respect and clarifies what he meant by diss language aimed at neighborhoods/trades rather than broad βEast Coastβ beef. Adam Pressed is positioned as a content/podcast figure who discusses how internet beef differs from real-life confrontation.
Key claims
- King Pill argues Adam22 is a βcivilianβ and that podcast questions land on the member/artist; he says if you make diss music you must answer directly when asked.
- He claims the diss term controversy was aimed at specific neighborhood/trade dynamics, not a general East Coast beef.
- He says the βmaster planβ framing is wrong: he was βtalking out loud,β and the situation looked like he was engineering conflict.
- He criticizes King Pillβs post-podcast behavior toward Adam Pressed as βgoofyβ and disrespectful energy.
Notable examples
- Top5 allegedly hit a βcrypto lickβ and bought multiple huge real chains; the episode discusses his UK stabbing and speculation it could be related to Toronto gang war rather than UK disrespect.
- Warehouse parties: renting warehouses, low/no door security, charging for drinks/door, and the βGhost Ship Fireβ (Oakland, ~2016) as a shutdown turning point.
- Nitrous: described as common in England and at festivals; mentions a documentary with 700k views and includes Brick Baby footage.
- Drug timing: Brick Baby is described as showing up βfriedβ (opiates/perks) and needing pacing.
- T-Rail vs Academics: discussion of a clip where T-Rail takes a shot from the balls and drives a boat with Academics in Turks & Caicos; the episode debates whether ignoring or confronting was the βrightβ move.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCourt Case and Financial Discussions
0:30 to 2:30
Discussion about court cases and potential financial gains related to lawsuits.
βOne day we're going to air you off and Munchie about that.β
Top 5's Alleged Crypto Success
2:30 to 6:10
The hosts discuss Top 5's alleged success in cryptocurrency and his lavish lifestyle.
βIn his first no jumper run, everyone knew that about him because he would talk about it all the time.β
Memories and Eras of Life
6:10 to 9:30
The conversation shifts to personal memories and how life eras can blend and fade over time.
βRight now, it's probably the least active that's seen.β
Interactions with Fans and Recognition
9:30 to 12:10
Discussion on how public figures interact with fans and the pressure to remember past encounters.
βYou do it like a lot though and you feel real fucked up but that's kind of like the bad sign of like this is when it's like a little too much.β
Warehouse Parties and Drug Culture
12:10 to 13:50
Exploration of underground parties, the drug culture, and the business model behind warehouse events.
βAnd this full of damn lyric can barely keep his eyes open.β
Nitrous Oxide Trends and Cultural Observations
13:50 to 14:00
The hosts discuss the popularity of nitrous oxide and its cultural implications across different demographics.
The Highs and Lows of Relationships
14:00 to 15:00
Explores how external circumstances affect relationships, especially during tough times.
Contemplating Cheating Dynamics
15:00 to 16:20
Discusses the complexities of infidelity and how women might cheat down.
βThey said, um, our princess Diana was getting knocked down by her writing instructor, apparently.β
Post-Breakup Dating Expectations
16:20 to 17:50
Debates what standards people hold after a breakup and how dating preferences shift.
βIf it happens to be a rando that wound up getting thawed it out at That's nice.β
Wild Party Experiences
17:50 to 20:00
Shares outrageous stories from parties, touching on substance use and wild behavior.
βIf you're giving your girl everything she wants, that's not tricky at all.β
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A Disturbing Party Encounter
20:00 to 21:40
Narrates a shocking incident involving a known porn star at a party.
βAnd then she just rolls around and she's just like, it's super host in my face.β
Discussing King Pill's Recent Actions
22:10 to 24:40
Teases the upcoming discussion about King Pill's behavior and its implications.
βI'm trying to dance around topics that I feel like we want to wait for Ann Hefe on.β
Top 5's Stabbing Incident
24:40 to 26:40
Analyzes the details and speculations surrounding Top 5's stabbing incident.
βHe was saying there ain't no killers out there in the UK and all that little shit, right?β
Cultural Connections Between Cities
26:40 to 28:01
Explores the cultural ties between London, Toronto, and Jamaica, especially in relation to crime and community.
βI'm glad they're able to capitalize off of it because so many people go out there on some tourism and go, I want to be feel that reggae vibe and be iry and all that.β
Top 5's Media Claims and Controversy
28:01 to 29:02
Discussion about Top 5's claims of being paid for interviews and his credibility.
βyeah not so much, a troller for sure okay, why?β
T-Rail's Club Encounter with Academics
29:03 to 30:34
Analyzing T-Rail's surprising behavior when encountering Academics at a club.
βand tucking them up in between his legs, forming something that many people call a mangina and riding the boat, driving the boat with academics in Turks and Caicos.β
Cultural Context of Club Behavior
30:35 to 31:24
Exploring the cultural implications of actions taken in clubs among rivals.
Navigating Tension in Social Settings
31:25 to 32:54
Debating the appropriate responses to rivals in social situations.
βEven if he called you a pedophile in recent memory.β
Personal Experiences with Confrontation
32:55 to 34:19
Sharing personal anecdotes about confrontation and social bravado in clubs.
Public Discourse vs. Private Encounters
34:20 to 35:48
Discussing the difference between online persona and real-life interactions.
Content Creation and Social Dynamics
35:49 to 37:08
Examining how content creators navigate conflicts and social narratives.
βHe gonna like sit on her shoulders and start like, what does that look like?β
Cassie's Relationship with Diddy
37:09 to 39:53
Analyzing the dynamics of Cassie's relationship with Diddy and its implications.
βIt's potentially starting a lot of beef for him.β
Perceptions of Female Sexuality
39:54 to 42:00
Debating societal views on female sexuality and the hypocrisy in perceptions.
βShe had a puffy shit in one hand and another sex work.β
Discussion on Sexuality and Transactional Relationships
42:00 to 43:18
Explore the complexities of women's sexual desires and societal expectations.
βIf you would have threw a dollar amount out there, she's like, just for the cameras, she would have been like, cool.β
Arrival of Suck King Pill and Initial Banter
43:19 to 44:15
Suck King Pill joins the discussion amid humorous exchanges about his appearance.
βI tried to call young Aunt Hefe the day after.β
Reflections on Podcast Dynamics and Accountability
44:16 to 45:41
Conversations on handling questions and accountability in the podcast environment.
βAnd if the shoe was on the other foot, Adam put me on blast like, hey, what's up with that diss track you had?β
Clarifying Misunderstandings from Previous Episodes
45:42 to 47:10
Discussions on miscommunication and the dynamics between hosts and guests.
βBut in retrospect to that, let's be for real.β
Discussing King Pill's Reaction and Podcast Tensions
47:11 to 48:25
Analyzing King Pill's behavior and reactions following a heated podcast discussion.
The Aftermath of the Podcast: Reflections and Opinions
48:26 to 49:23
Hosts share thoughts on post-podcast interactions and lingering feelings.
βBecause then very quickly after that, he started throwing some salt your way, which was very different energy than what he was putting out on the podcast.β
King Pill's Contract with Cam Capone News
49:24 to 50:45
Exploring the implications of King Pill signing with Cam Capone News.
βLeave No Jumper, leave somewhere, a space I was just with you at.β
Analyzing Past Conflicts and Their Impact
50:46 to 52:35
Reflecting on past conflicts and their consequences within the podcast community.
βEither we're going to leave this subject alone or we're going to crash about this shit.β
The Shocking Departure of a Co-Host
52:36 to 54:13
Discussion on the unexpected short tenure of a co-host on the podcast.
βYeah, and they kind of saw that maybe my homie isn't acting logically right now.β
Reactions to New Alliances in the Podcast Space
54:14 to 55:40
Hosts discuss the implications of former guests collaborating with competitors.
βOkay, speaking of Unk, so Cam Capone, yeah, Cam Capone now got, he had Pill and Unk on a pod together.β
Discussion on Dynamic Changes and Playful Banter
56:01 to 56:41
Learn how dynamic changes in relationships can lead to playful interactions.
βI would figure after he made that comment, that would kind of change the dynamic and make King Pill.β
Conflict with 4X and Interview Expectations
56:41 to 58:11
Explore the tension between Adam and 4X regarding interview content expectations.
Value of Interviews and Content Creation
58:11 to 1:01:03
Understand the economics of interviews and the content creation landscape.
βSo I feel like he's doing his own thing.β
Emotional Nuances in Content Discussions
1:01:03 to 1:04:06
Delve into the emotional nuances influencing content discussions and relationships.
βThese are the type of things you have to get out this interview or it ain't worth $5 ,000.β
Analyzing 4X's Perspective on Media
1:04:06 to 1:10:01
Analyze 4X's perspective on how media discusses his situation and its implications.
βAnd then, you know what I'm saying, he got to look up or see more clips of his situation being talked about on a podcast with people he perceived as us.β
Negotiating Loyalty and Contracts
1:10:01 to 1:10:51
The discussion centers around loyalty in relationships and the complexities of contract negotiations in the entertainment industry.
βbut I kind of feel like he might end up looking like the, at this situation, like, damn, I should have kept doing what I was doing with no jump.β
Exploring the Artist's Journey
1:10:52 to 1:12:09
The hosts delve into the challenges faced by artists, including personal struggles and the impact of their experiences on their music.
βwe to come to another agreement to do content together again?β
Interpretations of Artistic Expression
1:12:10 to 1:13:24
A discussion on artistic expression and how personal experiences influence the themes in songs.
βI was in the hospital someone's name is like this in the fireworks Yeah So we don't have headphones or I guess you guys do already already heard it.β
Internet's Reaction to Controversies
1:13:25 to 1:15:47
The conversation shifts to how the internet reacts to artist controversies and the consequences of public perceptions.
βLike, am I going to make it in these heaven gates or go to hell?β
The Challenges of Artist Growth
1:15:48 to 1:18:14
The hosts discuss the dynamics of sudden fame and how to navigate the ups and downs in an artist's career.
βDon't go to the mall and fall down the little elevator little thing.β
Quality Control in Music Production
1:18:15 to 1:20:54
A deeper look into the importance of quality control in music and the potential pitfalls of rushed releases.
βI feel like it's definitely a reparable situation.β
The Importance of Craft in Music
1:20:55 to 1:23:51
The discussion emphasizes the need for artists to hone their craft and maintain quality in their work.
βI bet you if I rap the same shit he said, I can make that shit sound way better.β
Discussing Allegations Against VIP Dame
1:24:00 to 1:25:11
The hosts analyze allegations against VIP Dame regarding his relationships and persona.
βBut your boy, VIP Dame, spoke out and said that at one point he was in Miami and he was fucking punks.β
King Pill's Image and Music Video
1:25:11 to 1:26:46
Discussions about King Pill's recent behavior, aesthetics, and potential influences in his music video.
βSo basically, Fiend Peel Rebuttal was, oh, he was doing it up.β
Fashion and Identity in Hip-Hop
1:26:46 to 1:27:58
A debate on fashion choices and how they relate to identity in the hip-hop community.
βHe's trying to get a YSL type buzz, I think, at that point in his career.β
Returning Guests and Collaboration
1:27:58 to 1:28:34
The hosts discuss the potential return of certain guests and collaborations within the show.
βThat's like the painted nails pod low-key, right?β
Tensions and Misunderstandings
1:28:34 to 1:31:45
A conversation about tensions among hosts and guests, and how social media can misconstrue their actions.
βBecause me and Munchie did an interview with his boy Dulo from Athens.β
Gumby's Story and Reputation
1:31:45 to 1:33:32
An exploration of Gumby's background and the notorious events that shaped his reputation.
βIt's like me and Milk came together to make it clear that we don't like T-Roll.β
Confrontations and Accusations
1:33:32 to 1:36:32
The hosts address accusations made against them and their relations with different gangs.
βIf I was him, I wouldn't feel guilt about that.β
Reflections on Community Representation
1:37:28 to 1:38:01
Discussion on community representation and the responsibilities that come with it.
βHe felt he was the best person to speak for the Hover community.β
Community Respect and Misunderstandings
1:38:01 to 1:40:14
Explore the complexities of respect and misunderstandings in community dynamics.
βLike I said before, you know what I'm saying?β
Confrontations and Loyalty
1:40:15 to 1:42:08
Discuss confrontations rooted in loyalty and the consequences of miscommunication.
βSee, I don't get my respect off of no motherfucking money.β
The Setup and Escalation
1:42:09 to 1:44:46
Unpack a tense situation involving a potential setup and the ensuing chaos.
βYo, I forgot to ask you, what happened with you and Unk?β
Trust Issues in Relationships
1:44:47 to 1:45:58
Analyze the trust issues arising from personal relationships and past interactions.
βWe go back to me and the driver drive back to Vegas The driver get the fuck on and back to Texas In his nigga car What the fuck?β
Community Dynamics and Rivalries
1:45:59 to 1:48:57
Examine rivalries within communities and the larger implications for respect and honor.
βHow you gonna be mad at Tony, Tony Woolwich for a gang that ain't even real about here?β
Reflections on Identity and Reputation
1:48:58 to 1:50:40
Reflect on the significance of personal identity and reputation among peers.
βFor me, I don't got to do all the extra shit.β
Humor and Business in the Scene
1:50:41 to 1:52:00
Explore the intersection of humor, business, and the absurdities within the scene.
βAlright, so we got the official word on the beef between Wack and Gumby.β
Discussing King Pill's Influence
1:52:00 to 1:54:20
Explore the influence of King Pill in the rap scene through references and bars.
βhe's snow white says a lot she said one had a lamp one was there you go do we forget something yeah my motherfucking money man what the fuck oh I got you I got you.β
Analyzing Blueface's Lyrics
1:54:20 to 1:56:00
Delve into the cleverness behind Blueface's lyrics and moments of brilliance.
βHey, I wanted him to say that shit out loud.β
Blueface's Reputation and Choices
1:56:00 to 1:57:20
Discuss Blueface's self-destructive choices and reputation amidst his success.
βI never smoked it, but I feel like, you know.β
Interview Dynamics and Neighborhood Stigmas
1:57:20 to 2:01:10
Examine the dynamics of interviews and the stigmas attached to neighborhood affiliations.
βHe could be fucking relatively upper echelon women.β
Social Circles and Content Creation
2:01:10 to 2:03:20
Discuss how personal relationships influence content creation on the podcast.
βLike if you want, if T-Rail is a regular on the platform, there might be certain people that he don't get along with that you can't necessarily pod with.β
Insights from King Pill's Controversies
2:03:20 to 2:06:00
Get insights into King Pill's controversies and the reactions surrounding them.
βI've been having that info on me He been doing all the weird shit.β
Discussing King Phil's Past
2:06:00 to 2:07:30
Analysis of King Phil's behavior and relationships in the past.
βAnd once they can't do it theyself, they got to do some shit.β
Controversial Claims and Accusations
2:07:30 to 2:10:20
Exploration of accusations surrounding King Phil's sexuality and lifestyle.
βMan, and this ain't no shade or nothing, bro.β
The Dynamics of Gang Affiliation
2:10:20 to 2:12:30
Discussion on gang affiliation and how it relates to personal identity.
βY 'all for the ass leaning the plug how big this dick is, nigga.β
The Role of Receipts and Evidence
2:12:30 to 2:15:30
Debate on the necessity of evidence in making accusations.
βWhy when he found me again before they took my old Instagram?β
Fashion and Identity in the Gang Culture
2:15:30 to 2:18:40
Analysis of how fashion choices reflect identity within gang culture.
βMy jeweler, my jeweler, he know who the jeweler is.β
Final Thoughts on King Phil's Persona
2:18:40 to 2:20:01
Concluding thoughts on King Phil and the implications of his persona.
βSo there's no way anybody could claim that that's like some pimp shit, some fly shit.β
Discussing Characters and Image
2:20:01 to 2:23:30
The hosts delve into the persona of a controversial figure and how it is perceived in the world of entertainment.
βBut I ain't never seen nothing like that.β
Introducing a New Guest
2:23:31 to 2:25:56
The hosts welcome a new guest and begin a discussion about viral moments and community connections.
βWhat a great, we really politic on this episode.β
Respecting the Foundation
2:25:57 to 2:30:04
The conversation shifts to the importance of acknowledging foundational influences in the community and the consequences of neglecting them.
βAnd so when I look at the situation, I say, okay, I see the homies.β
Conversations in the Dark
2:30:05 to 2:33:34
A discussion on the need for transparency in conversations about community dynamics and personal relationships within the podcasting space.
βA couple of other homies, you know, that I'm not going to put their specific name out because I don't know how they, you know what I'm saying, feel about that, you know?β
Fear and Community Relations
2:33:35 to 2:34:00
The hosts speculate on the potential fears and tensions that affect community relations and individual actions.
βAnd what came about with the interview with the viral way, the first one, where it was just flat off from T-Rail, you know what I'm saying?β
Addressing T-Rail's Hesitations
2:34:00 to 2:36:48
Discussion around T-Rail's fears about including Hoovers and the dynamics of trust.
βEven AD, even AD, when I said something about him, he responded with going on his show, putting the clip up, having dialogue about it, and then we talked outside of the show about it and yada, yada, yada, right?β
J-Rail's Rise and Industry Dynamics
2:36:48 to 2:40:56
J-Rail expresses his frustrations with industry dynamics and his emergence into the spotlight.
βHow you going to walk up the stairs we built and tell us we can't come to the second floor?β
Discussion on Rap and Battle Dynamics
2:40:56 to 2:43:38
Exploring the potential of rappers in battle rap and comparing their skills.
βThis track's coming for Blue Facing game.β
T-Rail and Smack's Roles
2:43:38 to 2:47:16
Analyzing the responsibilities of T-Rail and Smack in inviting Hoovers and community dynamics.
βYou be tapped in, whether it's battle rap, album cameras, all that.β
Discussion on Community and Identity
2:48:01 to 2:49:24
Exploration of community ties and personal sacrifices in the context of street culture.
Debate on Street Credibility
2:49:24 to 2:51:28
A heated debate about the implications of street credibility and its role in music and community.
βWell, he did tell Luz Cannon to stroll up in the chat.β
Justin Bieber's New Album Review
2:51:28 to 2:54:30
A group discussion praising Justin Bieber's new album and its emotional impact.
βHe got a song called Go Baby I like on here.β
Comparing R&B Artists
2:54:30 to 2:57:11
Discussion comparing Justin Bieber with other prominent R&B artists and their legacies.
βBut no, no, I skipped through a couple songs, but he hold a good note.β
Shoutout to E420
2:57:11 to 2:58:32
Casual mention of a local delivery service for cannabis products.
βAll I'm saying is the same way that I became a Taylor Swift fan and that led to me becoming a fan of all these other girl pop singers.β
The Clips Album and Industry Reflection
2:59:22 to 3:02:05
Conversation about The Clips' latest album and reflections on the current state of rap.
βThe Babe said his project way harder than Clips.β
Pusha T's Unique Style and Wealth Equating
3:02:05 to 3:04:38
Discussion on Pusha T's lyrical style and themes of wealth in his music.
Insights on Collaborations and Features
3:04:38 to 3:07:19
Analysis of notable collaborations and features on recent tracks.
βYou feel me when he was saying over what you feel me?β
Travis Scott's Musical Output
3:07:19 to 3:08:36
Critique of Travis Scott's recent music and the state of his label.
Current Trends in Modern Rap
3:08:36 to 3:10:20
Discussion on the trends and shifts in modern rap music and its artists.
βI just don't find it intriguing or interesting or deep at all.β
Power Dynamics in Music Relationships
3:10:20 to 3:11:44
Exploration of how relationships influence power dynamics in the rap scene.
βJustin Bieber or Clips, if you had to be stuck on a desert island right now?β
Social Media's Role in Modern Feuds
3:11:44 to 3:14:22
Analysis of how social media impacts rivalries and perceptions in the rap community.
βHe's basically like, I fuck with Munchie.β
Prison and Content Creation
3:14:22 to 3:16:00
Discussion on the phenomenon of content creation from prison.
βI guess it's a new era when it comes to that shit.β
Troy Ave's Shooting Incident
3:16:00 to 3:20:08
Discusses the details surrounding a recent shooting incident involving Troy Ave.
βAnd a felon in possession of a firearm typically I would think doesn't work out well for you.β
Speculating on the Shooting's Authenticity
3:20:08 to 3:25:05
Hosts speculate whether the shooting incident was real or staged, discussing its implications.
βThere's no real, there's no real actual evidence that there is like, like there's no incident report and nobody got like, that we've seen.β
West Coast vs East Coast Podcast Culture
3:25:05 to 3:28:30
Explores the differences in podcast cultures between the West and East Coast, particularly in terms of authenticity and violence.
βBut the podcasters from out here, there's multiple of them that are now in the fades and all that.β
Perception of Gang Politics in Media
3:28:30 to 3:30:00
Addresses how podcast discussions influence the perception of gang politics and authenticity in today's media landscape.
βbecause the audience be thinking niggas is standing on business and niggas is squabbling.β
Gang Politics and Podcasting
3:30:00 to 3:33:32
Discussion on how podcasting has shifted perceptions of gang culture.
βHe said he was going to Swiss cheese the whip.β
Social Interactions in the Club
3:33:32 to 3:37:08
Narrative about encounters and social dynamics within a nightclub setting.
βI'm like, well, you know, I'm a pocket watcher.β
Safety and Security in Public Spaces
3:37:08 to 3:41:14
Conversations on personal safety and handling potential conflicts in social settings.
βI'm going to tell the good, bad, and ugly.β
The Reality of Online Personas
3:41:14 to 3:44:01
Discussion on the difference between online personas and real-life interactions.
βSo you expect, since somebody dislike you, they supposed to, y 'all know what crash out mean, right?β
Discussion on Desto Dub Incident
3:44:01 to 3:45:12
Explore the implications of Desto Dub's situation and how it reflects on the culture.
βYou guys ran down on Desto Dub and tried to fucking turn him into an example?β
The Irony of Respectful Conversations
3:45:13 to 3:47:54
Delve into the irony of having respectful conversations yet being labeled inadequately.
Influence of Fame in Encounters
3:47:55 to 3:50:12
Discuss how the allure of fame affects interactions in social settings.
βThe only point I was just trying to say is that, yo, the biggest irony was that when I had a respectful conversation with Dave Free, they said I got marked out.β
Content Creation and Personal Image
3:50:13 to 3:52:15
Analyze the impact of content creation on personal relationships and public image.
βBrock could have disrespected his wife like crazy.β
Expectations in Gangster Podcasting
3:52:16 to 3:55:00
Examine the audience's expectations from gangster-themed content and the pressure on creators.
βThe rules of engagement, like when you're overseas or when you're in a spot like that, there's no chance of y 'all encountering each other in your everyday life.β
The Nature of Gangster Authenticity
3:55:01 to 3:58:00
Discuss the complexities of authenticity in gangster narratives within podcasts.
βLike, literally, he's, like, saying he want to see a demo.β
Gangster Perspectives in Media
3:58:00 to 4:00:10
Discussion on the portrayal of gangsters in podcasts and media.
βThere's a part of the audience that when they're watching No Jumper, and like, you know, by the way, shout out to your host, 4X, I know he had an accident.β
Debate on Authenticity and Street Cred
4:00:10 to 4:02:00
Talking about the authenticity and street credibility of content creators.
βWe're probably going to be on a yacht together and you never know.β
The Reality of Online Personas
4:02:00 to 4:03:50
Examining the disconnect between online personas and real-life actions.
βLike if that's what you own and if it don't go your way or whatever, just don't be talking about that as content.β
Conflict Resolution in the Rap Scene
4:03:50 to 4:06:30
Exploring how conflicts are handled among rappers and online personalities.
βBut, hey, this is why, hey, listen, and that's my man's, so this is no shots here.β
Understanding Audience Expectations
4:06:30 to 4:09:00
Discussion about the expectations audiences have of content creators and their roles.
βYeah, I think AD and Pun got to get on T-Rail's ass about not standing on business.β
A Call for Unity and Understanding
4:09:00 to 4:12:01
A hopeful message about reconciling differences and building relationships.
βThey made that nigga sound like a serial killer gang.β
Squashing the Beef
4:12:01 to 4:13:36
Discussion about resolving ongoing conflicts and their implications.
βThey be looking at these guys as replacements, but they're great.β
Super Chats and Member Shoutouts
4:13:36 to 4:15:16
Hosts engage with fans through super chats and shoutouts to new members.
βShout out to Sirius Carlos, Zay Curry, Patrick Bennett II, Fratello Factory, Hard Rock Slots 813, Sidier Gibson, Pugmaster, Jaisal Jackson, JA, and Reese from Philly.β
Fan Interactions and Predictions
4:15:16 to 4:17:22
Hosts discuss fan interactions and predictions about various personalities.
βNobody got nothing against Krip Mac, bro.β
Crip Culture Discussion
4:17:22 to 4:18:32
Exploration of the dynamics within Crip culture and related personalities.
βHe's from New York, so it's all different shit.β
Rumors and Clarifications
4:18:32 to 4:21:01
Clarifying rumors and discussing past interactions with other personalities.
βI'm saying he's from the East Coast and shit.β
Late Breaking News and Call-ins
4:21:01 to 4:23:42
Live call-ins discussing recent news and updates from various individuals.
βYo, it's a$2 donation, but Spider said, let's change your shirt, your armpits are soaked.β
Brick Baby's Update from Jail
4:23:42 to 4:26:01
Brick Baby provides updates on his situation and what's been happening in jail.
βCrack the rim and find out what's going on, sir.β
Update from Brick
4:26:01 to 4:27:26
Learn about Brick's current situation and mindset while incarcerated.
βIt's about to be lockdown time In DC Damn so Yo but like how are you doing in there?β
Discussions on Disrespect in the Game
4:27:27 to 4:28:34
A conversation about respect, security, and consequences in the music industry.
βI'm not the one saying that I'm going to do something when I see somebody.β
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03Why do you look like a different person every time I see you? I don't know. Today, corduroy hat. Do I look like a mature? A mature? Wicked tight neck. I can't really breathe. Yo, it's like a turtleneck, damn near. Fear of God is putting the fear of God in. Is that really what that is? That's what that blank is? Yeah. Wow. From the fear of God in my soul. Today is unique. It's the Alkydavid edition. Oh, there you go. One day we're going to air you off and Munchie about that. About what? Oh, no. He had a billionaire who was choking him out. I'm sorry about the shocker. Here's the thing. So today or this week, he actually is going to be in court about the allocation of some of the funds from that lawsuit.
0:56So you're still trying to get your bread? I ain't saying nada about nunca, player. Wow, that was unexpected. But so, okay, so you might be having a large cash influx. I mean, you feel me? Like, I might, the days might be a little bit brighter for a young player. I saw what that was like because I was with Top 5 in Toronto, and he allegedly hit a crypto lick for$3 million. And it was like. Is that true, though, or is that just. I mean I believe it based on the fact that he has like multiple huge real chains that he just recently purchased he's balling out of control wearing all designer buying so many bottles in the club it definitely felt like he had hit cars left and right yes he's sending drivers for us it was crazy so like I would like to see the lush version of that where you're coming in with like crazy designer fits every day and you've got like a kilo on the dashboard of your car.
1:57He's going to be missing days. Yeah, but it would be fun. That would be good content. Rich Lush. The Rich Lush era. It's been about a decade since I was really up like that, but when I was, best believe, I was a terrorist. When you were the dope man. Even before, when I had signed Chief Keef, and I had the jug in Beverly Hills. You're talking right now? Nah. Yeah. When you signed who? Chief Keefe. For real? Yeah. What year was this? 2015, after his first deal had fallen through and he needed someone to help him broker his second deal. So when you signed to what? That fell through too? No, no, no, no.
2:37It was successful. Is that right? Yeah. 2015. It's his claim to fame. In his first no jumper run, everyone knew that about him because he would talk about it all the time. i feel you've kind of fallen back on it well like there's so many different eras of my life just like now that that was like a notable error that's how i feel too and it's it's weird it's very weird yeah because there's people that know you for bmx stuff and they'll always associate you with that and it's like i see these people and they just like talk to me and it's like sometimes i just like it's somebody that i like really knew back in the day and it's like i've just been in this new life for so long i just don't even remember him that that's what they don't tell you about life you think you're gonna make all these memories no they're disappearing well i mean you're forgetting everything so what's your like course of action in that instance you like pretend like oh yeah just fake it or you keep talking till you remember just fake it yeah exactly no no no i'll be i'll just do it like yeah and i'll keep talking to you talk my memory you know what i'm saying but i see famous people doing it all the time when i'm watching some of the hood vlogs and stuff like that and there's like the rapper and he's outside the corner store and he sees some guy that's like not a bum but you know maybe a little unhoused or whatever and it's like the guy clearly knows him he's known him for like 10 years and and and the rapper would be like yeah this is the big homie right here it was like you you have no idea what his name is the big homie though or just you know whatever like just throw throw any kind of name we go way back this is the man but but then like the the mess up part is when they actually try to hold you accountable and they're like you don't remember me huh like what's my name when's the last time you saw me and you're like oh come on dude then you have to keep playing like you know that is a real thing but i feel like i'm almost at the point where like even really burnt out people kind of don't expect me to remember them because people will come up to me and be like yo i met you six years ago i gave you this shirt and i'll like vaguely remember the shirt that they're talking about but it's not like they really expect me to remember them meeting me for five minutes six years ago you know like they're just most people kind of get it but then you do run into some people that are like straight offended that you don't remember who the hell they made somebody for six minutes is different from knowing somebody from the past bro yeah they ain't supposed to expect you to remember a meet and greet not but that's but not to them because like they've invested so much time into you they spend hours when they're in their underwear eating fruity pebbles.
5:05You feel me? Like, damn, you're chilling at their crib by themselves watching you. And they think that that's a two-way street. So they, like, make this false, false equivalence. Like, you're supposed to have the same level of respect and rocking with them to that degree and then they get offended when you don't. So you kind of always have to be like, oh, yeah, this fool. You ain't never had to ask somebody like... Of course. No, I've... No, no, no, no, no. You ain't never had to ask somebody like... Did we fuck? I think about that all the time. I had to ask a few more like that. Did I hit? I had to ask that before.
5:43Nah, like. Because the blind thing? Nah, before that. Really? They get pussy, bro. Well, with the blind thing, it's probably even easier to fuck a random. It's been a lot like back in the little function area when everybody's function going to parties every night and all that little shit. Like all them pussy days and all that. And it was like. Orgies. leaving out the house no leaving out the party going in the car fucking and going back in the party type of shit and be drunk like maybe forgetting that shit no like for for me like i've been in a relationship for like almost 10 years so it's like the last time that i was just fucking all kinds of random girls outside of the porn thing was like an entire other life so it's like but but you know what's weird about it is that like there are some eras in my life where like i had those girls on facebook so i could go and check in on them and see where they're at but all the girls I was fucking in my crazy warehouse party days like I could run into them for sure and have no idea what is that?
6:39like doing cocaine in like warehouses on Manchester not like raves more like underground rap show like warehouse parties until 4 in the morning type shit like a random Asian girl could come up to me on the street and say I fucked her back in the day and I would just believe her cause like I'm gonna be real they all started to kind of blend together at a certain point At a certain point, it's like... Where's these warehouse parties at? It's really in the hood. Right now, it's probably the least active that's seen. They don't do that much of that anymore. No, no, no. But there's this thing called...
7:13Shots that hang on him on everything, because they kind of had it lit for over a decade. But when I think about that, bro, that's an unsustainable business model. Okay, you rent a warehouse. You basically don't even card people at the door. You just kind of let them in because you want them to buy drinks. and then you like book a rapper maybe he shows up you get a couple thirsty rappers to play for free or for like 100 bucks and then you just try to charge everybody like 10 15 20 bucks at the door and then you just charge for drinks and you really and you know everyone is doing cocaine out in the open at this party and you just turn a blind eye to it and you just kind of let it go that business model depends on you basically having no money on the in the bank because they could sue the fuck out of you.
7:58Oh, yeah. For so many things. Well, once they had, once that, there's this thing, I don't know if y 'all remember, there's this thing called the Ghost Ship Fire. It was a rave in Oakland at one of those warehouses wound up catching fire. Oh, yeah. And this is, I want to say, like 2016 this happened. And after that, the warehouse party scene was pretty much shut down in California for that minute. I'm trying to figure out when did this balloon shit become popular, bro? I got little homegirls running around balloons hanging from their lips and shit. And that ain't never, that was more so like a Mexican thing.
8:33You know what I'm saying? And now like the black people is messing around. They got little cute little tanks and shit. Well, now they banned the Galaxy Gas. That's what you, you can't get that anymore. It's got to be all these other brands now, right? Yeah, there's like variants to there. Essentially the same thing though. I mean, we did produce a documentary about the nitrous phenomenon that I believe has like 700 ,000 views, which I'm quite proud of. Shout out to Michael. and Steven and everybody for putting that together. How long ago? Maybe six months ago or something like that. So y 'all got footage from that Brick Baby interview with Claire Wayans?
9:05Yes, we did include that. That is definitely in there. But I was just watching the video because, okay, that shit, I know like Mexicans in LA for sure have been doing it for a long time. But like in England, that shit is so common and has been forever. Like you leave the bar and there's a guy standing on the corner with a tank filling up balloons and selling them to people for like five bucks maybe like 10 bucks now to be totally honest and then if the cops come they're just like running and stashing the fucking nitrous and shit like that but that's like so popular out there if you go to a music festival and really even like with white people in general if you go to like uh you know grateful dead fish type concert you go to the parking lot you see nothing but those those canisters everywhere crack yeah like the only thing that's different honestly now is that because those tanks make it so easy and accessible that like random black people white people etc are doing it whereas previously yeah i think it was like largely in like white hippie world and then like england for sure i always every time i've been out there my whole life when we were like about to go out drinking whatever people would get that shit they would just happen you only be high for 15 seconds and you fill up another blow right pretty much that's crazy the the meat and potatoes of it is less than a one minute experience and then you kind of feel like a little lightheaded.
10:22You do it like a lot though and you feel real fucked up but that's kind of like the bad sign of like this is when it's like a little too much. Anytime Brick gotta be the mature person in the room that's crazy he was on a ass during that interview fried out of his mind on Perks just reprimanding somebody for the way that they're getting high bow I think that was early in the day so Brick might not have been full Perk zombie mode regardless still like like he said like Brick who's at the time was an admitted open user of opiates has to be like the voice of reason and be like y 'all are tripping kick back like is that y 'all this shit ain't shake y 'all got this nigga being the principal yo but it's weird like as a guy who's like trying to like help Brick along in his career that like it's not like yo don't do drugs it's like yo you gotta time that shit better because like you're coming on the podcast like fried like you gotta pace yourself to the point where maybe like you're in a better headspace tuesday at 4 p.m and it seemed like he did though he did definitely i feel like he got it together a lot but also it was it was kind of like a roll of the dice a lot of times when he would come on you would get a different version from time to time and i fuck with it but also like when everybody else is firing on full cylinder like fast as fuck and then you have like one person that's realistically kind of moving in slow motion it can be awkward timing the worst part is when i was doing crystal the same time he was doing opiates oh my god because it was like the most like the most schizophrenic podcast of all time that deserves He's first to be studied.
12:10That's in Cold Blaine. He's off the opiates. He's off the bristle. I'm going fires. You feel me? And this full of damn lyric can barely keep his eyes open. There's a part of me. I just don't have enough time to do this, but there's a part of me that wants to stream and watch old episodes of the No Jumper Show and just commentate on them. And all different eras. The first ever episode. If I just sat on stream and watched that, that would be pretty interesting. I thought you were about to say all the high drunk moments. But like that kind of shit too Like him saying that Like if we figured out Like what episode in particular Was like the worst offender of that When I was fading Oh my god That was unbelievable I was I was trying to make my point Bringing up wrong names I was saying the names wrong I was I was all over the place I stayed on the subject too long Bring it right back up Yo that was funny It didn't spot her low I think he topped me though He With the G face Oh yeah Pause With the G face thing and you got Brick, he falls asleep.
13:09Even me, just go to sleep on camera. That's one thing I can say. I have yet to fall asleep on camera. I would like, you know what I want to watch? I want to watch the Brick and Loose confrontation, but only pay attention to Loose and just watch him as his brain melts inside his skull from being around like a relatively small amount of weed smoke. Yeah, I completely had him misread. I figured, oh, this dude's a gang member. even if he don't smoke here around fools that are burning it down all day right he's used to it that dude like got second hands like three bong hits in the same room and he went to fourth grade goodbye yeah he was already right he already had four grades so he went to kindergarten yeah bro brick looked like albert einstein sitting across from him because brick was just normal and loose is turned into a kindergartner just from having weed like you know across the table from i've never really seen that name but i like that before yeah no that's like that's like definitive proof that getting secondhand high is the thing that made me feel like he's just not outside because how are you not around like like you can't go backstage at a rap show without being around an equivalent amount of weed or way way way worse you figured in the session that he produced for Nas maybe people would have been that's crazy I wonder what they're doing how do you think she's doing you think she's holding up alright we should send her some candy it seems like there hasn't been I don't know if we're just not privy to it is there still motion I mean they're still uploading to their joint YouTube channel but I'm not interested and it doesn't seem like anybody else is because the videos are getting like a thousand views but yeah I don't know I feel like she's gonna crush us out in Patois or some shit fool like I feel like I'm gonna feel bad when it happens but like how long is she really gonna hang out for this hang out for what him being in prison if he gets 10 years what is she gonna do I talked about this shit like a month ago when he first called you're not optimistic no no no no her face in the pillow as we speak who you think is beating it up Uh, maybe one of IBM dudes or somebody that's behind the scenes with Zeus or like somebody she know for the past.
15:29You can't let an intern hit. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. Intern go enter for sure. Yeah. They said, um, our princess Diana was getting knocked down by her writing instructor, apparently. So, really? Hey, listen, when females cheat, they cheat down. They tend to cheat down. You know what I mean? You see Cassie hit the trainer. Steve Harvey girl was the driver or the trainer Shaq wife was hitting the Main Street Mafia crib Rami hitting the battle they both signed together they cheat down I told my girl the other day I was controlling her trying to see if I could get a reaction out of her I was like if we broke up I would be dating Zach Bia level chicks I'll give me Olivia Rodrigo or something and what'd she say that's a power move honestly she just kind of laughed at me because that is pretty ridiculous so i think she could tell i was i was not 100 serious no no we i was telling her if i wasn't with you this is where i would be at which i don't really believe but it is interesting to think of like if you're a single like where what what level of bitch are you going to kind of gravitate towards like are you going to go for the gusto and try to like actually get a real the best one you could get or are you going to just kind of settle into a nut because I'm going to be real before I got a relationship I was I was I was banging the randos from him on everything they're having unprotected sex with me after the shows it's all about what you really like though what really I don't think all that other like all that other pretenses and all that stuff don't matter when it comes to you choosing the mate that rocks with you.
17:13If it happens to be a rando that wound up getting thawed it out at That's nice. But I'm sorry. Everything's different now. It's different in 2025. If I cloud her up her whole life is going to change. This is true. All of a sudden she's in the matrix. Everything's going to change. I can't just hand those kind of opportunities out like that. But that means that relationships in their essence have to be more transactional which kind of like bingo it's got to be every relationship is a clout collaboration at this point that means y 'all compliment each other or it's your old girl who you're going to just keep in the background you don't give her too much food you don't buy her no shoes she holds you down takes care of the kids but she's not really outside with you like that that's what I'm saying tricks bro you spending money on all these bras when you're doing it for your girl, that's not tricky.
18:12If you're giving your girl everything she wants, that's not tricky at all. We'll make this one bit special if you're checking on everybody. I'm not what the chick told you your secret shit. I'm not for real. We're going to have to write that on the whiteboard. That was a popular joke from last week as well. I don't know. I was kind of thinking about it just because I was at this big fucking porn party over the weekend or whatever. and like you know it's just weird being outside and you're around chicks and dudes that are still in that just pure party part of their life i'm seeing all these girls who i know and i'm like wondering i'm kind of thinking in my head like yo are you retarded like what like what the fuck is going on and then i'm realizing like you're on molly like you're rolling your face off in front of me like girls that i know who i think are pretty who looked like i honestly thought that they were mentally handicapped.
19:08I thought that they had gone through a stroke or something because the fucking jaws were swiveling like you would not believe. I could not believe it. Where'd I get that from? I watched a midget bang a chick on the middle of a fucking pickleball court in front of a crowd of hundreds of people. This midget. He couldn't even get hard. Do you think he's possibly off that same Molly? Like a microdose? Where's this Molly at, bro? that is making somebody fake. I ain't gonna lie. They ain't had e-pills and money like that since back in the days, bro. To make you out of little thins face and shit. Yeah, there's been a huge drought on high-powered ecstasy.
19:47I don't know what they were on. I just, from what I saw, if there's other drugs that make your jaw do that. That could be some tweaky-ass coke. Bro, I saw this girl, this porn star chick that I know. She's so hot. I got a head from her one time. I never fucked her. and i walk to the upper floor of this party or whatever and i see her and she's laying on the ground next to a friend or whatever and she just rolls over and points her big fat ass at me and pulls her fucking jean shorts to the side and just points her butt plug at me and then and i'm like wow and like this is really hitting hard because of my birthday party like a year and a half ago don't shoot same thing she did the same thing to me except she wasn't rolling around on the ground I seen her in the party at the bar.
20:32She shows me her butt plug. And then she just rolls around and she's just like, it's super host in my face. And she goes, I took Molly. And I'm just like looking at her. She's touching her own nipples. She's rubbing herself all over. I'm just like, holy shit. This, like, I have not done that in so long. And I miss it so dearly. I saw a chick one time at a rave, literally bite her lip off. Like her, like literally she like, y 'all tripping. No, no, She was off the molecule. She was off the sassafras. That's Molly's cousin Mandy. That's that real good feel good Molly. Her job wound up going so crazy she bit her motherfucking lip halfway off that she was squirting blood.
21:17She had to Bobby Brown job? Beyond that. It was Bobby Brown after
21:25the money. You feel me? like when he's like just has to go back to the trenches to get high type shit like i don't even know how boston type shit but yeah she was bleeding that's hard yo uh i just want to say a quick shout out to everything 420 they're alike they are like the amazon of smoking gear they've got it all from vapes to grinders to edibles to flour even shrooms their app super easy fast Discrete shipping from Dallas Check it out They always have promotions going on And I especially love the mystery boxes Go check those out and get extra off your order If you use code Nojumper That's everything420.com Or check out the E420 app In stores Anyway I hope y 'all didn't miss out on that 710 sale That they had And then like I said Get that free Slurpee the next day I've seen a couple people had tagged me in post with free Slurpees, everything for 20 products and buzz balls.
22:29I love that. I've seen it with my own eyes. I'm trying to dance around topics that I feel like we want to wait for Ann Hefe on. Do we have an ETA on it? Maybe I'm going to hit him right now in the group chat. I'm going to ask that question. 420 Shrooms, is that what King Peel was on? Because he was on some Shrooms that day. I want to be real. I think he was off more of like the skid row type concoction I'm not sure exactly what he was experimenting with but I mean see okay but that that's like what I really want to get into but I feel like we got to dodge the King Pill topic until Ant gets here because Ant's gonna have precious you know thoughts about that especially since King Pill has really kind of upped the ante with Ant and the disrespect since we last saw him I mean it's crazy to think that this is the first episode of this show since King Pill tried to fight me.
23:21King Pilger to fight me after the last episode and it has now been an entire week. I've done probably like four podcasts talking about it since then. So, whatever. You gotta recoup somehow, right? I gotta text the group chat. Yeah, that's what we do. We make content here. Come on. Ant. Recoup what? $200? Whatever the investment made into King Pil was. I'm gonna save King Pilitan until Ant gets here. Hopefully that's sooner rather than later. But anyway, I do want to mention that my boy Top 5, who I traveled to Toronto to document in his hometown of Dun Dun, the jungles, a.k.a. the Lawrence Heights neighborhood of Toronto.
24:06I went there. I hung out with him. They caught him lacking in the U.K. I know a lot of people were wondering if this was fake. It's definitely not fake. We talked to him. We talked to his team. He was out there, and, you know, it's kind of crazy, But he told me before he went there that he was going to be so viral in the UK during Wireless Festival that we would be wise to get his interview ready to drop, to get the vlog ready to drop ASAP. Because he told me that he was about to be so viral that we were just going to want to release it ASAP. And I don't think he meant in the way that it actually panned out.
24:42So he was out there popping it, right? He was saying there ain't no killers out there in the UK and all that little shit, right? And I mean, that's kind of part of the chatter going on right now is that there's some speculation that this could have been an attack on him because he disrespected the UK as a whole. I personally believe it's probably more likely related to the gang war that he's currently embroiled in in Toronto, especially. It does seem like London is worlds away. But at the same time, I believe there's probably a significant amount of crossover. You know, if you want to get something done out of town, you could definitely do it.
25:16They're super connected. London and Toronto and Jamaica, that's like a triangle right there, straight up. Like, they're directly connected to each other. And sometimes. Well, yeah, there's a lot of Jamaicans that are in both London and Toronto. And, yeah, among other immigrant communities. But there's like a huge amount, particularly in those two cities. You ever chip off getting off the airplane At the airport Jamaica and they just Slanging weed right in the front Are they? I've never been there Man they just Everybody got weed Shouldn't they though? That's like you feel me? It's just crazy Do they got gas in Jamaica?
26:02In my head I still believe that the weed they got Is like the pictures of Bob Marley from back in the day Where he's smoking the biggest pile of trash it's still like that it is that lamb's bread they be smoking out there like i'm not gonna lie like it's they for some because like they mainly have outdoor i don't know why like somebody didn't just try to take like jamaica and like the demand for like high quality cannabis out there and turn it into like a whole other market and just they could it is illegal out there right well yeah it's not they could triple up off the up the um in the tourism market i'm sure donnie could expand a little bit on this they worship the plant and they like think it's disrespect to grow indoors and give the chemicals like we do here so that's why it's all l natural there oh really aka they're there now too like they have a big market there but yeah they kind of look down upon us for how we like do everything to it okay and and like the weed so most of the weed you're gonna smoke out there looks outdoor-ish that's what there's i mean i i don't know you don't smoke so yeah yeah It's not the same.
27:07They're offering it everywhere. I'm glad that it's legal out there. I'm glad they're able to capitalize off of it because so many people go out there on some tourism and go, I want to be feel that reggae vibe and be iry and all that. So cool. Let them capitalize off of it. So my thing is I feel like the world isn't truly ready for how gnarly the photo of Top 5 with the scar that he got from the stabbing incident is going to be like I haven't seen it yet but I heard people describe it and it's about to be probably the first photo he takes of this shit I think is going to be pretty shocking to people.
27:47It can't be crazier than the faux extras like so is he trying to get $50 ,000 off of getting stabbed like after the first interview is he trying to get the$50 ,000 is this going to be a meme he honestly like probably could get a bag for his first interview like no cap like top five like because he's Drake's boy well just having this exclusive I mean he did tell me that he got paid 30 grand from some chick for an interview one time so I all of a sudden felt very lucky to have gotten content with him for free I mean that could be like a really good sales pitch he got him down as being a liar bro top 5?
28:23yeah not so much, a troller for sure okay, why? no I'm just asking because he said he got 30k oh yeah I mean I could totally see that I wouldn't be shocked if that was somebody just if that was him just saying shit. But, you know, especially if you're like talking to like someone that owns another media platform that may or may not be potentially. But it was like I think he was like in England when he did it. So who knows what kind of weird. Ten thousand pounds. They just might have another exchange rate. I'm sorry. They just might like have like a weird idea of what this is worth or whatever.
28:56Anyway, I didn't get a chance to talk to you about this lush, but I just wanted to ask you how you felt. seeing the clip of T-Rail taking his dick and his balls and tucking them up in between his legs, forming something that many people call a mangina and riding the boat, driving the boat with academics in Turks and Caicos. I know you've seen this clip. Hey, hold on. How much? Hold on. You putting some extras on it, right? Definitely putting extras on it. Four extras. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm off the extras. Okay. I'm a narrative guy. Okay. So realistically, is T-Rail supposed to turn up on Ak? Is he supposed to ignore him?
29:33Or is he supposed to approach him? Like, there's three things you could do. Like, what are you really supposed to do in that scenario? You're on vacation. If it was me, and I was in the club, and I saw my op, and it's just me and my girl, and I'm clearly outnumbered. He's got security. Academics probably got homies. We got a bunch of Persian girls. to me, I'm not going over there. I'm just going to ignore it. Right? homies, security, do act homies count? I mean, it's just, but it's just T-Roll and Heather. So it's not like they're like, you know, the bad news bears or anything. It could literally be like the club med, like loss prevention staff could probably get any.
30:22Even if there was no security or anything, I'm sorry. Like academics is going to fade. real like real quick like that's like he could dominate that that exchange for sure so i mean do i think that he was supposed to go up to him and fight him no but i do think that the optics of him and going and taking a shot which is really like in our culture we think of that as being kind of like a symbol that you are someone's bitch like if you're gonna take somebody's bottle and just take a shot from the ball it's not actually like that because in reality like it's not like but but him filming it and putting on his story was clearly meant to send a message that t-rel was subservient to him and that everything that he had said about him previously because you got to remember that like a month ago he was running multiple live streams in which he basically was calling academics a child bluster over and over and over is that post that that uh was going around is that a real post that academics made like talking about it like reacting to the no jumper thing or was that like a well so there's like a dude grand grand was i think it's his homie grand it's one of his homies who runs that dj academics tv account so that's not actually him and you could tell because you could kind of tell what academics like writing style is at this point based on his twitter it's definitely yeah it's it's a more creative freewheeling writing style but essentially the um the academics the the scorpions the the chat n words are thinking that T-Rail looks super lame right now.
31:49Well, I think the problem if you're T-Rail is that the back on fig fans now understand that they can't really believe anything that you say because if you see that person in the club and they have a bottle of Don Julio, he's going to promptly drive the boat and glaze you. Even if he called you a pedophile in recent memory. There's no protocol for like squashing beef if you're on like a resort island with people and it's like everyone's just turning up. There's no like, we leave that over there. I mean, there is that. But that has to be prefaced with a conversation. You on vacation with your girl, you see the boy Prestige.
32:24You've been popping it. Y 'all been popping at each other. Y 'all both on vacation. You with your girl. What you doing? Well, first of all, Prestige can never afford enough. No, no, no, no, no. I have to go to Turks. Prestige in Turks is crazy. No, no, no. I hear what you're saying. Let's say someone like Cabo or something. Yeah, we in Cabo. we're in we're you see smack yeah we're in san diego who was not invited to turks i run into smack if we're in an environment like that and i know this i'm not gonna ignore the person i'm gonna for sure point out the elephant in the room i'm gonna go in there because the last thing you want to do realistically let's say there is some tension you don't want to be privy to that later because you're a battle rap guy so like you you know the optics matter so much for sure and you going over there and hitting their bottle just doesn't really like seem like the best optics in terms of like this being someone that you want the people to know that you genuinely have beef with if i wanted to look like i'm like doing some like gangster shit i'll go and i'll snatch your bottle you feel me like oh gracia take that shit for myself you feel me like thanks for this hey look i got hey look i got run for your life yeah it's just for spreading but do you be hitting clubs though I'm a little bit like not really nowadays so much but I used to be like a party animal but like I was not above like if I seen I'm the type of dude where I be on ecstasy and I'll be in the club and run into like the officer fools I don't get along with and walk right up and be like what's up with y 'all fools dude y 'all really ain't got it it's really all good right take the bottle hit that shit you're like trying to get beat up no because I'll never get beat up I think you got the most you got more internet beef than I do currently it's quite possible who would fade you in real life right now you gotta ask them I think Sharp gonna need that bro you gonna need that hey I'm not turning down anybody we all got the list in our head of like who would try to fight us or who you would have to fight yourself like who who i like would have to if i saw them and i would just i'd have to get off for i'd feel like a bitch i don't really think there's too many people like i'll be honest where i feel like i would need it yeah i would see i would sense their energy and if they needed it we get okay it is what it is then there's certain people like if i know that you don't like me and you got the and you want to catch my faith and i'll just like have you either packed out or i'll like you feel me defend myself by whatever means necessary but i'm not like gonna i'm not like offering faith to the communities anyone that don't like less can not fool like whatever happens gonna happen like box this gleek motherfucker you feel me straight like that you are so funny uh but uh okay so wait okay so do do i think they should try fight him no do i i would have just honestly kept to myself i would have just not gone over there because it's like i'm allowed to talk shit about you on the internet and then not try to fight you when i see you like i reserve the right to that well i am a content creator when i talk shit about somebody on the podcast that is not the same as me wanting to go up to them in public and reiterate those same thoughts so i have been at parties where i see somebody who i was just dissing on the podcast and i don't feel in any way like i have to go up to them like if i really don't fuck with you i consider it well within the boundaries of normal civilization to just not talk to you but you're making that clear now a lot of these people on the internet they want to make it seem like what I see you at even if they don't say that verbatim but they insinuate that a little into like if I see you what's up well I saw a clip of Pun and AD talking about how it's all content the fans are basically idiots for thinking that T-Roll would ever stand on business with academics and then they also say that if T-Roll and Heather saw me that they would have crashed out and fought me, which I found very interesting because I did see them in real life like about a year ago, I think, at the Impact Awards, and none of that happened.
36:39So I was very surprised to hear that. And also... He gonna like sit on her shoulders and start like, what does that look like? Them both attacking you? The optics of me whooping the shit out of T-Roll and Heather at the same time would be very ugly. But... What if Heather got hands? I got that. That's all me. Hey, man. I've been training for that fight. my whole life. I'm ready. I'll beat up a couple. I don't give a shit. I wouldn't want my girl talking shit to dudes, bro. That ship has sailed. He's already got to deal with that. Man, that's crazy. I'll turn her to kick back or shut up. You know what I'm saying?
37:16It's potentially starting a lot of beef for him. Then when I get to shooting back calling yo, that's his wife baby mama, calling her bitches and talking to her crazy. Well, hold on now. Hold on. Hey, chill out, buddy. What'd you say? Yeah. Hey, that's like you really can't really, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I don't know. She had to take the more reserve route or do some different type of content. I feel like here's the thing, though. If you if you're in the club, right, and you run into it, let's say you try. What if he then put you on his story? And it's like, oh, look at this meek little pussy sitting in the corner.
37:53You see him. He afraid to even approach me. look at this fool he being all weird that kind of make you look like a bitch low-key nobody did that but but if t-roll had hit off in the car well i think yeah part of the problem is we all know what the dynamic is like in the club there's the haves and there's the have-nots and if you got a section in the club which i mean some of these sections are very expensive i was just watching a vlog that mike malak did he went to ibiza and ibiza i know so gay saying it like that gayest thing ever he went out there number one the villa for a week 68 000 oh yeah so number one fuck him number two the section in the club they go to the club 30 grand in euros them them parties like they make it worth your while i'm pretty sure because they gonna be having all kind of extracurriculars it go up there i plan to like die in abysm i plan to not ever spend 30 000 on a section in the club.
38:56I would rather shoot myself in the fucking dome. The Punisher, the sex worker said that Sweet Dose was$30k a night. Sweet? Yeah. I don't think you can get in Motel 6 and a visa for like, you feel me? Less than a G and I. If you told me that that's where Diddy stays, I wouldn't be surprised. For sure. That's probably a regular-ass spot for Diddy. But Mike, I don't know how much money he is making, but that kind of rub me the wrong way. Like, Mike, I feel like you and me are like normal guys, dad bods. We're from the East Coast. You can't just be flexing on me like that. Like, I just don't, I don't feel right about that.
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39:35I think he needs to take that video down. Hey, man, I want to fuck Cassie now. That Clayton Howard dude, like, I'm like, how he's describing shit, like, bro, she a demon, bro. That's so funny because I used to always, I wanted to fuck Cassie so bad back in the day, and now after all this, I'm just like, whoa. I guess the streets got to it. He walked in. She had two gerbs in her hand. She had a puffy shit in one hand and another sex work. He walked in. I'm like, blood. She's ambidextrous. What does that mean? Both hands work. She's not a victim, bro. She need to get that$30 million back. I mean, you know what I like about all this?
40:15We have been led to believe that the average hot, successful, coveted woman does not want to have hours and hours long freak offs off molly with random male prostitutes and it turns out that a lot because like you know when they're when they're talking about how bad porn is they'll always say like oh the images depicted in porn are so anti-woman it's misogynistic like women don't like having their faces came on women don't like getting fucks for hours and in the ass whatever the fuck and then you see this type of situation and you're like oh look cassie a woman who's got everything going for her in the entire world.
40:51And what did she choose to do in her free time? Granted, she was potentially, you know, in some way, you know, poised to do it because of Puffy or whatever, but she wanted to have these fucking freak offs and have a is in the building and have a, and okay. Like when I, like, do you guys notice this when we're talking about, um, Tania, I was trying to get her to admit that deep down she wanted to suck all of our dicks in a row and that she was turned on by that. and I keep bringing this up to girls I keep asking them do you think that the average woman has at least fantasized about being fucked by more than two dudes at once and like all the porn star girls say yes most women have thought about this and then all the normal girls say no no way no no no no no no no no I've asked females that and I got something to admit that like but it's a double standard thing they call it a flip if females you know what I'm saying they get flipping then with us they call it a threesome so like you gotta word it right and then like if we like two of the baddest bitches that we could pick what makes you think they don't like two they pick you know what I'm saying the punisher but it's frowned upon yeah yeah cause they would never want to admit a normal woman can never admit that she's turned on by that idea but I feel like a significant percentage of women are Tania is stuck in that hood bitch mentality where she just refuses to like acknowledge that she even likes sex that's like that prostitute mentality You can't even admit that you want to fuck.
42:17It's always got to be about money. It's transactional. Like we said earlier. If you would have threw a dollar amount out there, she's like, just for the cameras, she would have been like, cool. I know. We said$500 each. She's like, eh,$2 ,500. That's not enough. She said that? Yeah. She's acting like$2 ,500 and shit. I'm like, what are you talking about? Suck King Pill off.
42:38What's up? How y 'all doing? Suck King Pill-ins in. Which, by the way, bro, that, okay. We've been waiting for you to get here before you talk about anything. Man, what's going on right here? Yeah, you got a little stainy stain. Oh, man. That was buzz ball. I'm about to say, dude. It's the summertime, dude. That's it, man. But that's not like an armpit stain, is it? I mean, it is. No, I think you dripped water on yourself or something. Yeah, I totally dripped water. Are you lactating? Like, yeah. Ah, for sure. What's going on? What you was waiting for, man? Man, I feel like you. You're trying to drag the conversation on?
43:17I did. Look, so full transparency, I tried to call King, I tried to call young Aunt Hefe the day after. Don't get those two mistaken. I tried to call Aunt the next day and be like, did I do something wrong? I felt like I could have made that situation better or worse, and I feel like I was the agent of chaos more than I was the agent of peace. so what like what do you feel like or am i tripping completely i don't blame nobody bro like y 'all been like all my little supporters and fans they've been hitting me up they've been on my line they asking me why i'm not holding um adam 22 let's talk about it cannibal or whatever and so like my response to that i already did a video but i'm gonna say this like everybody that walks no jumper y 'all pretty much know the podcast space to adam 22 two in y 'all pretty much know the questions he asked and i don't pretty much think he was trying to throw me up up under the bus if anything it was like king pill so i just like so adam's a civilian you feel me so when you talking to the members and the members get asked these questions that's who will fall upon because you as a member as you saying you are like i expect you to know how to answer that question.
44:42And if the shoe was on the other foot, Adam put me on blast like, hey, what's up with that diss track you had? You took them disses out. I would have known how to answer that to where it just would have shut that completely off to where he wouldn't even have to say it. I just would have respected it. You know what I'm saying? I mean, because I feel like if you, and I've listened to a decent amount of your music, I don't really hear you dissing people like that. But I feel like if you did and it got brought up on a podcast, you just because of the fact that you sort of demand respect from people you'd be straight up about it i feel like if you're a member and you make music in which you diss other hoods you can't be wishy-washy when somebody brings it up you got to say yeah that's what i said or else why the fuck are you even saying it adam would you have asked that am i wrong that's that bullshit i mean i'm just saying like i mean it's not a bad question alright so look alright so boom I just had a conversation I had a conversation with P Nice and Money Bag Rose so that was kind of like the take some people kind of got that opinion I was telling them this is what people got to understand like when you saying that word like of course you know who hood that's dishing originally.
46:01But in retrospect to that, let's be for real. You weighed out of my city limits, and it is a hood out there. There are trades. So, like, that's who you was aiming it towards. You know what I'm saying? Like, for sure, for sure. That's really his little brazy moment. So that's what we got to get clear. That's what we got to get clear because it ain't no different. Like I told Moneybag Rose, it ain't no different than a trade. Like, we beef with neighborhoods. and our homies say the disrespectful term to diss neighborhoods, but we don't really have no official funk with East Coast. Like in jail, like based on that, the neighborhoods are their allies.
46:39There might be some fights, but on the streets, we don't have a gun beef with East Coast. We don't beef with East Coast in their neighborhoods. You know what I'm saying? So it just be situations like that, but you always going to have people with their opinions like, oh, no, that's for everybody and this and that. But, you know, yeah, but I just didn't want that to linger on that's what i try to stop yeah yeah yeah before he high out his mind talking about how you feel disrespected and what you talking about and all that weird shit and did i read it wrong or was it literally like the face that i made in my eyes because i because i didn't say anything at that point but like when uh he's like well you adam made a comment like oh he wasn't dissing that hood he was just and then i kind of made a face like i wasn't even looking when adam was talking I was looking at Adam when you start talking I was looking at you so I didn't even see the face you made okay okay but I do want to clarify that if I could have like redone that part of the conversation for sure I just would not have brought that up and but like people think that this people think this was my evil mastermind plan build up and which is kind of how it worked but honestly like people always will attribute like brilliance to the things that you do in reality it was like me just talking out loud just thinking out loud and I said something that I wish I did not say because I didn't want to put our new co-host for that one episode on blast like that he was talking shit about the topics so it was like what do you want to talk about that's what it kind of looked like it looked like Adam like alright you don't want to talk about that well guess what that is what happened that's essentially how it worked and maybe like that's the reason why my brain started to go into an era into a stage of calling him out on some shit but it wasn't like this brilliant plan that i had in advance like i'm gonna pit king pill against and have a but that is kind of how i worked how did you feel seeing him sort of act like a feral cat coming in attacking me after the podcast once you had already left munchie had already left all the gang members had already left it's just me left and King Peele decided to have his little moment with me.
48:52What did you think of that? Because then very quickly after that, he started throwing some salt your way, which was very different energy than what he was putting out on the podcast. That's the only thing I can't respect, man. And that's what I be saying. I know better because I be kind of seeing energies, man, and people like, you know, and I don't know. If you can see and you can feel, man, I don't like, man. That shit was just goofy. But, like, I mean, what could you get to expect? Like, you know, he like a character that's on social media that's coming with the gimmicks. So when I seen it, I was just pretty much like, I wasn't going to even say nothing because that ain't what type of dude I am.
49:30Leave No Jumper, leave somewhere, a space I was just with you at. And you had all the space and opportunity, like, to get jiggy if you wanted to. And then I make a segment. Like, when we left No Jumper, that's where it was left at. Like, see, you feel me? Like, I wasn't even tripping. So when I did, when I see him tripping with you, first I was kind of like, damn, what happened with this? what's going on like okay then i was here and he was tripping about two hundred dollars you know it's bad out here you feel me like this i'm gonna shit it's bad out here man but you can't wait 20 minutes to get it if i had no money to my name shit i'll be tripping about my 202 shit right but yeah we ain't tripping about no and when you left though you wasn't like that was like teenage years and shit when you walked out of the podcast that day though there was no real lingering tension He walked right behind me.
50:19Look, he was walking behind me. I got up first. He got up behind me. He said he got to use the bathroom the whole way. I don't walk fast. He was walking behind me the whole time, walking behind me, till we got up here to where the bathroom was at. And he was like, hey, Ant, you got to use the bathroom? I'm like, no, I'm out of here. He was like, all right, for sure, bro. I'm about to use the bathroom. And shit, we exited out of here and left. Yeah. But I felt like even way before that, like after the conversation it kind of became cool or at least like it wasn't yeah it wasn't nothing like as long as we got that understood we not even about to play with the set or play with the community like i wasn't like mad like you know i'm saying like we got we got past that look once i said what we own and that was that and like what we own i didn't take that out and i was calling him out what we own i set that out there to say either we can get to it or we can leave this subject alone.
51:15Either or. It's fine with me. Either we're going to leave this subject alone or we're going to crash about this shit. You were looking right at him when you said what we are. People know who I was talking to. You was talking to the room. I would have been like, what subject or topic we are on? I was talking to him when I said, what we are on? He said, what we are on? I said, explosives. Getting his booty. For sure. For sure. I was trying to move it along. Yeah. So, how do you guys feel seeing King Pills signing an exclusive contract. I don't know how exclusive it is, but now he's officially Team Cam Capone News, which I think is interesting because, you know, I'm just going to put a word out there to Cam Capone.
51:59You may have to learn the same lesson that I learned. Homie's a J-cat. You bring him into your place of business, he might try to squabble up with you. I don't think that'll happen, right? because I think that was misdirected energy from the earlier fiasco or whatever. And then over there, Cam Capone and the group said. But who's to say that somebody else doesn't come on the Cam Capone platform and punk him out much like the same scenario. He waits for them to leave. And then all of a sudden he's trying to beat Cam Capone's ass in the studio. You're crazy. Because that's basically what happened to me.
52:33I'm a victim. I don't get to be a victim on this podcast very often. But I had a deranged blood attack me. he didn't actually even touch me which is the weirdest thing about him like bragging about it is that when i actually replayed the tape he had no point touches me and at one point i kind of give him like the gay-ass most like effeminate little like get out of here like it's really not like the toughest looking thing i ever did but it was so it's basically just get out my face type shit but but not like in like a mush type way more than just like a like will and grace i don't know Shasta pills homies though for like being solid.
53:08Yes, four or five bicks. Yeah, and they kind of saw that maybe my homie isn't acting logically right now. We should remove him from the situation. And they did it in a very graceful way, as chill as the way you possibly could, despite the casualty of the four basketballs that were knocked over. I believe it was three. Yeah, yeah. I picked them up. So I saw three or more balls laying on the ground and it was kind of disturbing. Yeah. Well, yeah. And yeah, I don't know. It's pretty crazy. Like to come on a podcast for one episode, which I was really committed to giving him a shot and for it to last one episode.
53:47That's pretty shocking. Like that's never happened before. Six or seven. But at least he was around for like a week or two. He made two. He made like two and a half. Yeah. I thought that was his first episode with me and Munchie. and it was, I think, like an interview which he did, I thought. Did he do two? No, he did two. Because the first one, Brandon was on the first one. The first one, he dropped to his knees. Oh, oh, yeah, you're right. He did bullshit two weeks in a row, bro. The first was that, then he came back, and there was a couple of music here. The second week, he said that's one.
54:17Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then there was that. Okay, speaking of Unk, so Cam Capone, yeah, Cam Capone now got, he had Pill and Unk on a pod together. How does that kind of make you feel like what's happening is like the two fools that were just had issues with I don't want to say removed from No Jumper but like and then they're all of a sudden on cam the next week. He can't have no smoke. No, no, it's not even smoke about Cam. They characters, bro. They characters like in a social media space. What do you expect? But Lush is saying, is it weird for me to be doing this content in Southern California and then having the same characters from our universe scampering off to wherever Cam Capone records out of it, doing content as well with him.
55:07I mean, these are the things that you just can't control. You know, it's like, obviously there's going to be runoff from what No Jumper does. Cam Capone is just like the more obvious example of it in the sense that he seems like he's perfectly happy to kind of gobble up the remnants, which I don't judge him for that because I've done the same thing to him. I've seen him do interviews. Even like the King Pilt thing, he had him before me pause. Like, you know, I can't really like judge him for doing that or whatever. And it's like, you know, if I fall out with somebody, why not kind of gobble? I mean, you see Fig Munity doing it all the time.
55:40Anybody who leaves here, they're fucking going to try to sign him up. King Pilt and the other thing was in line before King Pilt. It crashed out right here, though. Oh, was it? Like, about getting on camera with him because somebody suggested that although he ditched the B, he didn't really feel comfortable doing it. You know what I'm saying? I would figure after he made that comment, that would kind of change the dynamic and make King Pill. But I will say, like, I saw that. So they was going to land on camera regardless. Yeah, okay. So when they was on camera, they played off of that. that was mentioned multiple times and they kind of did it in a, like a playful way.
56:19You feel me? So they did like, like I was like, Oh, you don't say this again. Pill was kind of like messing with him about it, but it seemed like, if you go adjust that, like don't play with it though. That's, that's how it felt to me. Munchie. Like, and again, you feel me? I might not be the best person to give an opinion on the shit, but from what I saw, it seemed like it wasn't, it wasn't seriously like addressed. You're the white brick, baby. but i mean i feel like it's kind of you know weird with unk because like multiple weeks in a row of him saying that he's coming and he's going to do content and hey on this date let's do content and it just keeps not coming because i feel like people would love to see us get some sort of resolution on everything that's taking place and instead he's just like off doing every other podcast and whatnot and he hits me up and we've had like sort of normal conversations via text but okay so I don't know what if you look up and it is it is 4X and pill all on I'm hosting a fight I'm hosting a fight between 4X I'm hosting a fight all three of them do content I already kind of accepted that that's something that is fairly like is that i'm gonna on camera at the same time okay because they all kind of like fuck adam right now okay when you look at it it's like so all right i'm gonna give you guys the update since we didn't talk about it since last week i don't know how much you guys watch the channel but on friday i get a call from a random number while we're doing an interview i call it back it's four extra he is mad at me basically he's like not happy he's telling me hey meet up with me meet up with me here just just me and you meet up at the studio i want to talk to you and i'm like oh are you mad at me and he's like uh you know kind of beating around the bush a little bit but then basically reveals that the thing that he's mad about is that he doesn't appreciate me talking to his ops asking them their opinions on him blowing his hand off with a firework and monkey munchy's name was mentioned specifically and uh i tried to call him i felt like the ball's in his court because I tried to call him on Monday, haven't heard back.
58:35So I feel like he's doing his own thing. I did speak to at least one other person who's a content creator who told me that they spoke to him on the phone and that he indeed is trying to get$50 ,000 for an interview. The person that he spoke to basically told him, hell the fuck no. So I guess like the question is, who is cutting big checks for interviews that he might be able to go to because I'm going to be real. I don't know. I could see Cam Capone giving him something, but nowhere near$50 ,000. I could see the Danza project maybe giving him something, but nowhere near$50 ,000. How many YouTube views is$20 ,000?
59:17How many YouTube views is$20 ,000? I mean, realistically, you're going to need like 4 million views. For 20 ,000. I think 20 ,000, that's like a million views. A million views, we typically will say it would be like$5 ,000,$6 ,000. yeah that's what I thought was around 5k so if you wanted to even have a little profit you probably need to get around 4 million views now if you drop it in clips that's better I'm saying on one video yeah but I'm saying like if you did do that interview you probably want to drop it in clips but also like the only clip that's really going to get views is like the first one right first of all you know we know hops brother we know hops and second of all 50 ,000 I don't think Cat Williams will get that so that's a big bag the long fur for real the storyline ain't that you know what I'm saying it ain't that it ain't that interesting it's like real like cut to the chase you know what I mean I think it's interesting but it's also like it's like a 10 minute conversation I mean maybe it's more him talking about being in the hospital etc but it's definitely not like it's not something that you know like it's just gonna be a TikTok.
1:00:26It's going to be an Instagram reel. Everybody else is going to get the views after you pay all this money for it, right? If you're not expressing yourself, it's not a good interview. If you ain't going to say how you're going to move forward or how you feel about it without trying to act real tough, if you ain't going to drop a tear on some Gil Kane type interview, or do you feel guilty of drop a tear? No, no, no. For real because, like, I mean... You got to show some emotional range. Like, what would be interesting about this interview other than what we already heard, like, from Crescent of Fig, Running Avenue, whatever, whatever, and then express how you feel.
1:00:56guilty a tad bit because you lit that and your homie was infected? We still have to see it. That's what I'm saying. These are the type of things you have to get out this interview or it ain't worth $5 ,000. No, but you just brought up a really good point, Munchie, and this is something that I've been curious about. We've heard from the beginning that there is another dude that was with him. Wax said he's an older dude. So there's an older dude. And he was in the whip with him. so and so that per my understanding y 'all could correct me if i'm wrong full x-ray in the passenger side he attempted was about to be throwing the firework out the driver's side and it exploded like this is per my understanding the reason why it exploded his hand and um the the side and i could be wrong you feel me i could be wrong so per my understanding like his homie lost a ear eye and his face was burnt is that true or is this all like i still don't know that's the story i've been hearing since the beginning but i mean honestly even like even the blind thing like he seems like he's not blind right like so that seems like that was kind of exaggerated they said and that makes sense so like if they're if it's in the close proximity like you got m1000 that explode within like a vehicle right and like that's a close proximity that's a lot that's a big flashlight i can see that temporarily impairing someone's vision i also understand the trauma associated with the injury of that nature and you seeing like like let's say like god forbid something like that happened to me and i look down i see my hand my brain wouldn't be able to process that information so it would literally like my might lose my vision temporarily as a result the thing that bothers me or like that i feel like it's kind of odd is like why is vlad getting hit up being asked if he wants to pay the 50 000 But I haven't been hit up.
1:02:46I'm the one who's been paying him all this time, and I've done all these legendary interviews with him, and I haven't even been included in this conversation. Now, granted, I have said publicly, and that's one thing I realized when I talked to him on the phone, is that every time we did a three, four-hour podcast talking about him, he watched it, which in my head a lot of times people aren't really watching us when we talk about shit, but realizing that he actually knows everything we've said about him is kind of awkward. Wait, no, but he don't smoke or drink. That's probably, I mean. What else are you going to do in the hospital for a million hours when your name's in the fucking title and shit, you know?
1:03:16Well, that's probably why he probably didn't include you in it. I probably felt some type of way. It's probably that you was on pod talking about it. You know what I'm saying? With people that he perceived as jobs. I mean, this is my thing, though, is that it's like... Well, he look at Adam as a friend. He said it. He said it. I got to talk about my friends. He said... Best friend, as a matter of fact. Adam is like family. Yeah, I've seen all that, but like But you got to understand, bro, look, everybody perceives things differently and take things differently, bro. Like, man, some people is emotional, man.
1:03:52Some people is understanding, man. Some people are stoic, man. And maybe that was just probably too much for him. On pod already, you know what I'm saying, probably getting clips and people telling him, hey, look, Munchie B right here making jokes about you. And then, you know what I'm saying, he got to look up or see more clips of his situation being talked about on a podcast with people he perceived as us. And I get that, but it's like, bro, it's not like he's like my homie from back in the day. Like, he met me as a podcaster. Like, he knows that this is what we do, right? Like, he knows that, like, Lush, I fuck with you.
1:04:27I love you. Love you, too. If you get popped and the news is the next day, if you get popped on a Sunday and the news is on Monday, guess what that title is? Lush got popped! Exclamation point! Exclamation point! I'm sorry. If we get less than 20 ,000 views, I'm going to be mad. That's what I'm saying. I'm going to be mad from heaven. You feel me? Hell, man. I'm going to be mad as hell. Okay, but let's look at things from Faux Extra's perspective, right? This is a dude that might not have the ability to detect the same nuance in someone like Lush that's been in the game, that's been in the industry that understands the way friendships work.
1:05:04He might not understand all that. All he knows is I was just on. jumpers you feel me adam said that we best friends you feel me we was just go-karting you've and then i wasn't actually there for that i was with no jumpers feeding the giraffes at the zoo i was feeding the giraffes i was with no no no this is very logical this is very logical and not meant to be insulting in the slightest so he does this right and then all of a sudden he has this horrible thing happen to him And not only is no jumpers and Adams talking about this, but he's talking about it with somebody from a tray, somebody from an IF and somebody who just tried to go to his hood playing with him.
1:05:50You feel me? So I can see why four extras would be like, fuck Adams right now. You feel me? Like, even if it's not logical, even if it don't make sense, even if we're all able to look between the behind all the nuances to figure like, OK, this is where we work. A media platform is West Coast. It's affiliated with different street type content. So it gets discussed. We're all able to see. He not, though. Look, bro, there's a lot of bullshit going on. I call crap. I listen. People get babysit around here, bro. if that happened to anybody else they gonna be in the headlines period bro the boy Baby Braves he didn't get an interview because he felt I ain't gonna do that because he didn't want to disrespect this boy 4X King Peel go on Vernon and Fig what did he say oh I'm not going to King Peel hood no he went too far with 4X so now this happened you think it's not supposed to be talked about I think it's people just getting they handheld around here, bro.
1:06:55And it ain't quite fair. You know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't even no females that's staff around here, right? You talking that shit. No, you're not wrong. You talking that shit, Munchie. But hold on. But what's the boy's name? Louis Coochie, he could come up here with props trying to disrespect me and crack jokes. What'd I do? I come back with the slow buzz picture back. Like, everybody got to stop being so sensitive, bro. And then especially when you're on the internet Now 50 ,000 for one interview For you to say the same 20 words is crazy Now what you should have did Was your return back To content Have them follow you around You working out with the one horn You still hollering at females You gradually coming back You still being yourself following you back for 10 days That would have gave you 50 ,000 Not just an interview Whoever around you is not they're Lupe's not a manager.
1:07:53We already know that though. I don't think Lupe's really in on this anymore. Who's telling them that$50 for a comeback interview is the move? What I said is more of the thing. That could go on Zeus. 10 days straight. He's still off the back. I'm tripping. Even if it's fake, you have him slapping a homie with the left. All that. You could get$50 ,000 plus. and let him follow you around for 10 days. No, absolutely. There's definitely ways for him to make revenue. Even the N-word getting dissed and getting bleeped out, showing respect there. Like, ain't nobody else. Like, what is we saying? Krip Mac diss Hoover.
1:08:38It don't get bleeped out. Which call you said the S-word. It don't get bleeped out. You diss the N and get bleeped out. Lil' Brazy didn't even get bleeped out. He got special privileges. Lil Brazy did North A's and Southerners. That may get special privileges. So I'm trying to figure out what's the crying about. So you're saying we need to take No Jumper back. I mean, I'm just saying like if I was him, I wouldn't be as offended. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I think you're right. I don't think he realizes the extent to which we have kind of gone out of our way. And even like small decisions, like we never posted the picture of his finger on the ground.
1:09:16yeah and that was a conversation that happened in the no jumper news group chat of like are we posting the finger and we ultimately decided that posting uh someone who's close to the brand's finger on the ground would be in bad taste i'm just saying like you know we are doing what we can to protect your image and everything even though a lot of other pages aren't going to do the same thing so i mean i don't know it's gonna be weird because i feel like if i had to guess either he does catch a one-time legit payday where somebody gives them, I don't know, 10, 20 K or whatever for this, this alleged comeback interview.
1:09:49But if he does, then what does that say about his position with no jumper going forward? And I honestly feel like that 10, 20 K like that, that might be hard to come by, but I kind of feel like he might end up looking like the, at this situation, like, damn, I should have kept doing what I was doing with no jump. But why does it have to be one or the other? But why? But like, I think, is it possible that in Floresh's mind, he's like, shit, I already got a bag with no jumpers. I got a bag with Adams. I'm going to get cashed out. Why? Maybe I should try to get more money. I think he thinks I'm old faithful.
1:10:28I think he thinks I'm the girl that's always going to take him back off the back. And that has not been clear. You know, I value loyalty. And I do look at the situation like it's a little bit odd to me because if he wants to play hardball with his return interview, why shouldn't I play hardball when it comes to renegotiating whatever terms were we to come to another agreement to do content together again? Are y 'all still under whatever contract he signed with you? I mean, I feel like he signed a contract, but I don't even pay attention to that shit. It's like to me, it's like if you want to do your own thing, do whatever you want to do.
1:11:04I'm not going to fucking force you to do two more episodes to complete the contract or whatever it was. You know, I would say the only thing is like maybe having a little bit of sympathy, considering like the severity of the shit he going through. I have a lot of sympathy for that. But if somebody got hit by a car, it was a house fire even got shot. That's something different. That's not self-inflicted. How'd you guys did you guys all hear the fireworks district? No. The clip of him in the studio where he's rapping. Oh boy, got on. I forgot he got on my Instagram too because I didn't know his name.
1:11:43He added me and my name is Wooty Woop. That was the first week before Extra Song I heard so far because Off the Back I thought was great. The one with the Mexican kids I thought was great. He made a song. I thought you said somebody made an Off the Back. They got on an Off the Back track. Yeah, exactly
1:12:10I was in the hospital someone's name is like this in the fireworks Yeah So we don't have headphones or I guess you guys do already already heard it. So it's the one who's somebody fighting demons, right? He's definitely fighting demons
1:12:48I think someone wrote that. This might write his book.
1:13:03the gates letting me in right now. Somebody said, sheesh, like he killed it. Hey, look. He rapping like somebody shot him. Like he fighting for his wife. He crying. Am I right? That's why it feels like he's dissing the fireworks. No, no, no. It's like he pulled through off of getting the shot like 50 cent. Like, am I going to make it in these heaven gates or go to hell? All this shit. You ain't going to hell with those fireworks, nigga. Man, I don't know, bro. And for the sins that he's caused. But if you did that to your hand, you got time to repent. You can pray. Man, look. But if you get shot, it's all of a sudden.
1:13:43Like, when you get shot, you don't get time. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no, no, no. Because I've been shot, bro, and I thought I was in hell before. I thought I was like this. What? Not for real. On a dead home, he said, look, look, look, look. I'm not the real. Man, hell no. The same night Lil Sadi went to jail. I got shot. on, on, on, Hey, what's up with the six O's? Hollywood and Quangin. What's up with the six O's clowning them and then saying they smoking, smoking Louis Odie and Red Bull. Yeah. They said, wait, who said that smoking soldier? You're talking about my, my boy, uh, what 60s said that in a relationship to what?
1:14:20Cause it was like, they had like a little blog or whatever. And I guess they had like a, um, baseball game with the thirties or whatever. So whoever was vlogging them had, um, I asked them like, man, what y 'all think about the, um, the 4X situation. So it was two of them. One of them, he was like, man, you know, damn, man, that's kind of unfortunate. Woo-woo, man, you know, niggas can't be playing with them fireworks. And then he was like, but then on top of that, he like, man, that's Hoover Day. But he did Hoover. He like, man, that's Hoover Day. I don't know why. He was celebrating that day anyway.
1:14:50And then the other one was like, shit, he should have been from Hoover. You know what I'm saying? And then, you know, they felt the talk and said a few more words. Then it said one dude, like, man, sound like he said, man, I'm smoking on, I'm smoking on Sody. And other dude, like, man, shit, I'm smoking on Red Bull. I'm like, but the whole time, while they doing this vlog, it's like, it's kind of like they kind of like made an ass to themselves because they was just talking about, like, how people be getting on the internet, wolfing, and going to peoplehoods and doing this and saying shit over the internet.
1:15:21And, you know, they ain't getting in trouble by that. And then y 'all go and say that y 'all smoking people that y 'all ain't even killed. But they clown the 4Hers too, though. They threw jokes in there. That's what I said. They said he should have been from Hoover. Yeah, no, that's somebody. He's going to be throwing a nut like this. Oh, yeah. He did say, he said, yeah, I still think the homie would get down. Yeah, he did say all that. Yeah, no, for sure. Man, bro, I think that shit expected, bro. They waiting on you to fall, Adam. Anything happen with you, the internet going to have a feast with you.
1:15:50Oh, yeah. For sure. Definitely thought about that. Don't go to the mall and fall down the little elevator little thing. What? I'm doing content on that one. Any L I take at any point in my life is the internet is primed, waiting, ready. I just want to say I have all the empathy in the world for Forrestra, but I do feel like when I heard that song, I'm like, bro, we need quality control. Even if I'm not going to be a part of your career moving forward, that song ain't it. He didn't post that though, right? That was like the engineer I mean, he's talking into the camera. He knows that shit going to go on people's stories.
1:16:29Either way, the one comment that killed me is when someone said, this is like stolen valor type shit. I couldn't believe it when I read that because stolen valor for people who don't know is like when you basically like claim military service that you didn't actually get. Amazing rabbit hole on YouTube, by the way, if you haven't. Yeah, there's so many good YouTube videos about that. I couldn't believe that shit. I stand on, bro. even though I threw a couple of jokes, I stand on it. I always root for the underdog, bro. I'm rooting on this comeback and see how he's going to bounce back from it and maintain his energy.
1:17:06I don't know why people took the video I did and took all the negative shit. That's what I was saying. I don't think it's over for him. No. Unless he just let it break his confidence like that. You know what I mean? That's what I was saying. but of course I'm going to throw some jokes in here on everything but that's the whole moral of the content I put out that particular time why did you feel like it's going to hit different coming from you because like yeah but y 'all look past that bro I'm about to start rapping about how Forester betrayed me you have to do it like Dirk style you have to do Dirk style I better turn my back on me a lot of rappers are living off talking about getting betrayed and we never really get to find out who betrayed them or whatever almost i'm about to start talking about like damn like forex left me high and dry like like that was my boy and he turned on me just because i asked what he thought about blowing his hand off with a firework that's fucked up a rod wave or like leaf ward pain type song that's what i'm gonna do for sure yeah i'm sorry i thought you was my crody he turned on me for content blew up your hand and then left me in the dust no no no no the crody's over content then it's on crody's over content crody's over content bro crody's me and pressa yo a song me and pressa do a song called crody's no actually like a crip dude and pressa because they both say crody's for different reasons right well they're so like content i don't know i hope that even if i don't even if i'm not blessed enough to continue to be a part of the 4XL story.
1:18:45I hope everything is good. I still got nothing below form. I feel like it's definitely a reparable situation. I don't know. Because I feel like also there's probably people around him that view him as having more opportunities than No Jumper and that No Jumper now looks like a tiny little blip in his career and that he could do so much better. Off the back, you had 100 ,000 likes, cun! Exactly, but this is the thing. Instagram, mine is always... um where management at if he getting all them likes and the real supposed to be doing he's supposed to be doing it up on Instagram yeah that's a good question my thing is this I've been viral many times I've had the highs the lows the whatever and I'm somebody who I think I've proven the gay guy with the dog right Munchy I've proven that I'm able to sort of last through these crazy ups and downs that happen and you know sometimes you will be worse for where sometimes it will take a percentage of your fan base away from you when you have a down and then sometimes you feel like your audience gets a lot bigger when you have an up in your career but the thing is is that for extra gained like a hundred and something thousand instagram followers in a week and i feel like for him for it's hard to see that spike in your numbers and and not realize that this is kind of like not going to last forever that you know you can make the best of it but this exponential growth just doesn't happen over and over and over it happens and then there's a decline in interest that you're gonna have to weather and so i just hope he doesn't fuck up the people the relationships with the people who have been down for him this whole time chasing after opportunities that realistically might not even really be there at the end i think that i think a degree of sympathy in uh your heart would be good in that degree and understanding that he might not fully be across all this.
1:20:38That's what I would hope for. I also think that I'm calling bullshit on Munchie's claim of ghostwriting on that track because there's no way a ghostwriter is going to rhyme now, now, and now in three different bars. If you deliver a writing, it'll go good. If you deliver a writing... I would like to say that if I was going to write... I bet you if I rap the same shit he said, I can make that shit sound way better. You might be more... You're a more experienced rapper. No, that's all in how you deliver it. That's why, like, when people talk about Drake having a ghostwriter, if you rap the same thing, Drake just rap, it wouldn't sound the same.
1:21:14This is true. 1 ,000%. It's not how you deliver it. But there are people that are better at writing. There are people that are better at rapping. But even when you got a ghostwriter, like, you know what I'm saying, your ghostwriter, like, it ain't just. For some people, it's just writing if you got it. but I've seen some ghostwriters for they people they're going to tell you how to say it like hey look you just saying damn you got to say it like this damn so they're going to get you that too you feel me depending on what you're using a ghostwriter for that's a whole other that's like that's technically like vocal production you're like taking it a step beyond ghostwriting you're helping produce the track at that point and vocally producing somebody all I'm saying is that I don't I feel like those were four extras actual unfiltered thoughts the best the best bar i heard in that song was i just woke up out the bed and i woke up alive fire as if there was a chance that you were waking up and you were not alive he might have like like but but like think about how he felt in that moment he might have genuinely under under i just think there's a better way to phrase that realistically if i was in the studio i would have said all right you know what we're gonna do a little bit of a rewrite i'm gonna holler at chat gbt see what they think they say welcome boy what do you say again i woke up out the bed and i woke up alive.
1:22:31Man. Y 'all some bullshit. I mean, you can make that bar by just saying better by just saying, I just woke up alive. Exactly. You can just say another thing. No, you can just say, I'm alive. I woke up alive. They thought I was dead. Bitch, I'm alive. This is the thing. The more he start rapping, see, he got to stay with it, the more comfortable he's going to get. You can't just see, if you just doing the track and expecting it to blow and you trying to do a song a month and shit like that, it ain't going to work out. It's always going to come out fucked up but I mean you gotta perfect your craft I think the more like he get comfortable with it and allow himself like to listen to music and listen to beats and not forcing himself the more you know what I'm saying his delivery gonna come off better and he fuck with flipping them like you know he's close for a runner like he's friends with good rappers but if he's gonna take the music side of things serious which I think is a very important decision for him at this point which I think he should do that you gotta do quality control cause you can't have people like not wanting to click on your song because you just put about some bullshit.
1:23:30I guarantee we're never going to hear that song. No, for sure. Because it just doesn't sound up to snow. They'll do something better. I suggest he punch in, which it sounded like he did, but then just take your time. Don't be rushing because you want to run through something. Just take your time, and then you deliver each bar cool and make it sound cool. You know what I'm saying? Oh, sure. Pay attention to detail. You know what I'm saying? A show. Okay, so another announcement that we have that we should probably get into. Kingpill is gay. Not gay necessarily. There's a solid proof of that, bro.
1:24:05But your boy, VIP Dame, spoke out and said that at one point he was in Miami and he was fucking punks. And in addition to that, we now have seen photos of him with pink fingernails. Oh, boy. Kingpill. VIP Dame, don't you know him? I don't know, bro. I heard him say he's from Englewood, though. He did say that. Oh, I thought you knew him. Why? Is he from Inglewood? I thought he said that. You are the mayor. Hey, Smiley, you know VIP Day? No. Smiley don't know him. Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. But he had to be, he said King P.O. Gay, and he was out there hanging with him. So why are you hanging with him if he was messing with me?
1:24:46Maybe he was serving him or something. That's a very valid question. If I'm messing with punks, right, is Young Anx pulling up on me hanging out? Hell no. We ain't into the same things, right? No, sir. All right, so did any receipts come from that? I just want to know, though, because that's a cold allegation to put on somebody. I don't know if he actually had receipts or anything. I just tried to call. That's my only thing about it. I didn't fall into the narrative of it right. This is my thing of it. So basically, Fiend Peel Rebuttal was, oh, he was doing it up. He had a baby Maybach. He was living in Miami.
1:25:23You know what I'm saying? He had a mansion. He had all the holes on him and this and that. and he just dyed his hair and put them nails on for the pimp pimp video but all my life of living and being a being even the pimpy ish people i ran across i ain't never seen no pimping no pink nails pink hair pink nails i ain't never seen no pink nails fat pink pink pee what was this a music video at i guess he said yeah was it a music video it was he's got a music video out there He's got this VIP Dame guy saying that he was fucking dudes. He's got Flacco saying that the reason why his Instagram is now deleted is because he's trying to hide evidence of him fucking men, which might be available through his DMs.
1:26:08Now, King Pill, just a word. I believe you could put your Instagram account in, like, basically like a mode where it's not viewable, but you could still go into your DMs and delete stuff. So if you want to actually get in there and delete all the evidence of you fucking men. You could probably just do that. You throwing them all you. If that is true. That's a cold allegation, bro. I know how the internet works, bro. If a lie linger too long, it become the truth. You know what I'm saying? And that was his rebuttal. He did this shit because of music video. Yeah, it was a pip video. The pip pip music video, but it's like, bro, peak nails.
1:26:46I think he's trying to like peak nails. He's trying to get a YSL type buzz, I think, at that point in his career. Young Thug ever did peak nails? Nah, I wish he was black or something. And he wore some weird long shirts that kind of looked like dresses, and he was experimenting with a little bit of the androgynous stuff. He had a blouse on his arm. The black nails, even though I wouldn't paint it. The only thing going on my nails is the clear shit. I wouldn't even do black, but black, it kind of gives you more of a punk rock thing, so you can get away with that, you feel me? but pink on the man, nails.
1:27:19I can't see you with black nails. No, but that's what the rocks are. Yeah, don't fit me. No. I don't get punk rock or rock. It's weird because I... Now, if I get some black dickies, get the black tucks, some wallet chains, and rock up, and then I can paint them black. I don't want to... I feel like that's not true to you. No, but I'll see the younger skaters and shit. If I go to the skate park or whatever, I'll see a young 18-year-old dude, 20-year-old dude, and they got black fingernails, all this. I mean, shit, you go wrong and loud when Cardi's playing or Kanye's playing. A lot of weird shit going on.
1:27:51It's kind of interesting that both... He just got too many characters for me. It's too many characters coming out the bag. No zesty blood. Zesty blood is out. Him and Uncle both got painted nails. That's like the painted nails pod low-key, right? There you go. Uncle kind of... He different, bro. Nah, for real. He different. He lived life on the edge as far as his content. He going to be like a Rolling Stone. He going to never set his head nowhere. He going to always keep it moving. This was always going to be temporary. Do you feel like, Adam, there's still a chance of Unk returning to No Jumper at this point?
1:28:33Unk, yes. Pill, no. Unk, we can still do content. I tried to advocate for Pill. I'm cool. Last Friday. Because me and Munchie did an interview with his boy Dulo from Athens. And basically, I think Munchie was shooting Kingpill a little bit more bail than he is now inclined to now that he has observed the zestiness. But why, I don't even, Munchie, why would you even shoot him bail after you was right here? The thing is, I'm not, I ain't talking about. After you was right here in the room with him and you seen the exchange and then he go back and make a video saying that, yeah, I will have dissed.
1:29:10I said that in text. I said, I hope he don't leave here and start dissing. Yeah but he did that I ain't talking to him since then That nigga no alley hoop after that That nigga you did some That smart shit Ain't no throwing you no alley hoop after that And to keep it real The dissing came after I talked to No I ain't gonna lie No I didn't No no no no I ain't gonna do no lie No no no I about to say the dissing Something did it come after I tried to like Reel him back in See Bunchy been listening to the internet Bunchy really Bunchy Bunchy mad at me Bunchy Bunchy listened to the internet What The internet Tell me I threw Bunchy under the bus because I was on the forward runner and I said that I think what Jesus Blore said that four extra head got blew up is tacky.
1:29:49No, hell no. I was talking about that last week, right? I was talking about that last week, right? I used to say tacky was the wrong choice of word. It's just some... No, tacky, it ain't the wrong choice of word. Tacky is just tacky. It's just like something that look wrong. Kind of corny or weird. No, that's the wrong choice of word. That's weird. Tacky is like corny. It's like you're above that. Yeah, thank you. That's the vibe Tacky gets. No, no. Tacky is really like a dress vibe. You know, like, man, I imagine you dressed up better than that. No, you just a dress. I don't like, no. I just got a different opinion on how you dress the situation.
1:30:38I think how you address the situation was Tacky. You think higher of him than that? I think I... A lot of people said I went... No, no, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. See? I didn't even go on. I felt that way initially, and then, like I said, then Munchy started pointing out, like, nigga, like, hold on. This shit that he said about me, then I'm like, oh, but I still, like, in my person, like, I never said he was wrong. I just said that I wouldn't do it. Shit, nigga, he Munchy B can do what the fuck he want to do. I just said I wouldn't do it. You know what I'm saying? Right. No. But, like I said, the motherfucker's speaking on you, and got your name in his mouth so you can answer all the fuck you want to answer.
1:31:14Basically, much of you are being very generous by even extending him bail at that point when a lot of other people would have already been like, you know what? You don't look up. No, but I was comparing situations because I don't know if we gave a lot of people and it was right back up here. And I was like, you think there's a chance of, you know what I'm saying? Uh, no, probably not. I'm like, shit, milk came back. I came back. You came back and you... Milk came back. No, I'm just saying. I'm going to be real though. Milk came back because the anti-T-Roll movement trumps all. It's like me and Milk came together to make it clear that we don't like T-Roll.
1:31:53And that was it. And then we never saw each other again. Then all his fans were like... I heard Gumby from Hoover said that Milk ain't from Hoover or something like that. So I can tell that you're a two gangster for YouTube watcher like myself. But I just heard, I don't know if I heard it from you. I don't know where I heard it from. One and two YouTube. Because I do watch two gangsters for YouTube. Spicy, my boy. He's not here. Spicy, my boy. Fuck him, by the way. He's been making up shit about me. He said, like, he said, like, he takes something that is true and then he'll stretch it and make it totally different.
1:32:35Like he said that I went to the hospital to see four extra made me sit in the lobby and didn't let me in. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? I did not say that, but he knows that's a better story. He creates a visual. You got to give a visual. That's why I said, so you didn't go up there and get turned away. Yeah. Cause people believe in it. My girl is like, my girl like walked in on me, watching one of his videos the other day. I felt like she caught me watching gay porn. She's like, what the fuck is this? She's like, who is this guy? I don't want to shit. I don't know how to explain this.
1:33:06But either way, all right, all right. So a couple of different notable things. So Gumby, Gumby is basically an OG Hoover member. He's got crazy lore behind him. You would not believe some of this lore. For instance, probably the most epic thing that he's been a part of is that there was a legendary Hoover dude from back in the day who was in prison. His name was Devil, right? Or was it Demon? Devil. Devil. and this dude was a booty warrior he was raping everybody and basically he came up to gumby and i believe like stabbed him in the side and said you my bitch now and so then gumby allegedly like when they're doing intake or whatever when they're bringing them back in from the yard gumby like the the fool's bending over like getting searched the guards are like searching everybody on the way out and and gumby i guess like grabbed his knife i don't know where he had it you could probably use your imagination but he jumped at him and stabbed the fool and killed him right there in front of the fucking guards got i think a life sentence from it and then basically had the life sentence overturned by one of those like innocence project type groups i didn't actually get this whole story from gumby during the interview but that's the gist of what happened and so not only did he do that and that's why he always says like i'm going to hell i already know i'm going to hell just because of that but but actually in the interview he reveals that that's not why he's going to hell.
1:34:27There's some other shit, I believe. If I was him, I wouldn't feel guilt about that. He said you're going to hell. That would normally indicate In the interview, he kind of indicates to me that that was probably not the thing that would doom him to hell. Being guilty and feeling guilty is two different things. Yeah. Either way, he basically was on Realtune TV a couple months ago, and Realtune, I had him talking, he ends up bringing up me, he ends up talking about this narrative that i'm a secret neighborhood agent that i am a representative of the rolling 60s or the neighborhood card in general which to me i've never really took as a serious accusation you can see two different hosts on here that do not necessarily historically get along with that neighborhood yes i fuck with brick baby crit mac for extra but really that's a relatively small percentage of the total hosts that we've had on here over the years gumby's narrative was basically that I hated T-Rell so much that when T-Rell left, I then went on an anti-Hoover crusade by working with all these neighborhood dudes, which to me...
1:35:32That wasn't a bad theory though. I mean, I don't know how many people actually think this, but from my perspective, it's like, I've had all kinds of people on here. Why am I doing a show with Wack if I'm supposed to be a neighborhood representative? That's probably like the number one person that Big U would have said, don't start a podcast with. That might have caused some problems. Wack don't count as like... He was just in love with the 60s. five months before that for sure but when i started doing a podcast with him was at the moment where they were totally against him whatever either way like i mean gumby i i told him i wanted to do a podcast together because i wanted to face his criticisms head on and i think a lot of people are really loving the two clips that we dropped so far um whack notably like called in tripping out about this fool basically telling me that i'm in danger of getting extorted that Gumby is going to...
1:36:21Wack feels like Gumby's the worst fucking person on earth. Now, Gumby does want to have his say, and he told me that he would like to be able to speak on what Wack had to say about him, so I am going to give him a call right now. Is Wack willing to sit down with Gumby? Give his take face-to-face? I love that idea, but I don't know. I feel like it might be a little tricky. Right.
1:36:52If I reach back out, if this doesn't work, if this doesn't work,
1:37:02all right, he'll call back. Either way, can I just say this real quick? If you're still going to your local smoke shop, then you need to listen up because we are in 2025. Go check out everything for 20. Their site and app are loaded. They always have deals going on. You just download the E4 20 app and get everything delivered. Deliver it to your door discreetly and nobody has to know. Use code NOJUMPER for extra money off at checkout. What were you about to say? I just felt he was fine. You know what I'm saying? He spoke for his community. You know what I'm saying? He felt he was the best person to speak for the Hover community.
1:37:39Being that somebody was up here with what they had titled across their forehead. Making up new colloquialism. Talking about Hover sexuals and things like that. so I guess he had to... He was talking about what other people say. He didn't actually say the thing that you... What was that, Gumby? Bro, listen, I'm not really with all the disrespect. You know what I'm saying? Like I said before, you know what I'm saying? It kind of fucked me up, man, because, like you, my whole community, hey, whack ass. No bullshit, bro. But, you know what I'm saying? Like I said before, I had a situation with this dude, you know what I'm saying?
1:38:14When he was managing my little homie, a magnificent. Oh, Magnificent, my boy.
1:38:48I'm trying to fuck with you, bro. It's always doing some respectful shit. Don't care who I was with, big you, whoever, I always came over and gave you respect. He said, bro, little bro, we're going to keep you like that. He gave me two, he said two things to me, bro, that knocked all the fight out of me. He said, bro, you've been in the pain. You already know you've got to control your emotions. And the second thing he told me, he said, bro, you know you're supposed to have to take it up. So I'm trying to figure out how he feel that I've disrespected him so much to where he got to do some fake bullshit against a real nigga.
1:39:22My name ain't nothing but good anywhere I go. Mexican mafia, white boys, because they was with me when I was doing my struggle. Anybody never fucked me. Right. Never put those type of charges on this man. Or no other man. What did you even say that Wack felt the need to speak out against so bad? Like, did you diss him in that clip or something? I don't feel like you did. No, I didn't. I never said nothing. I just told you up until this point, I thought me and him was smooth. All boys hate this thing. They got this songs, all type of shit. Because we already seen the games he was playing with the neighborhoods and us.
1:39:51You're going to come, all of a sudden, you get into it with them niggas. All of a sudden, you're going to come hire somebody from over here. No, ain't nobody stupid. I've been in a penitentiary just like you have. But because he did that gesture for me, bro, I kept the homies up off the board. Like, oh, man, you know, I feel y 'all. But, you know, I'm thinking, well, he just don't fuck with everybody. But me and him is good. But you just get at me like that, bro. Like, you don't even want to play with me, bro. Like, he don't even, I'm not even nobody you even want to play with. He know this, bro.
1:40:16He can play all that shit, bro. See, I don't get my respect off of no motherfucking money. I get my respect off of being a real motherfucker and every real nigga that's been around and pretty much, I was sure that. I went to jail when I was 18 years old. Nobody said they fucked me. I ran, told none of that shit. So I'm a part of this nigga here. I think Wacka... Because I'm not going to go back and forth with this dude. I think his point was that he feels like you are going to try to extort me and something like that. Well, listen, I ain't never came into you with none but love and respect, bro, once we had a conversation.
1:40:51Right. I want you to understand what a line is. Just like you know what a line is with 4X, you better know what a line is with me. Just like me better know what a line is with me. For sure. I ain't being nothing wrong with nobody, bro, and I'm just sitting here, I'm being attacked, bro, and the whole thing about, I really can't even get in the streets like I want to because I can't really be talking about business like this, but I'm, and everybody keep calling me like, bro, you need to stop because every real nigga already know your story. This shit that they do in there. And I'm like, okay, where did it come from?
1:41:18It came from the fucking AI news media, bro. I'm just sitting here and this is the shit that y 'all running with. And I'm trying not to get mad. I ain't no nigga like Wackman. I don't need nobody to do nothing for me, bro. I wanted a gunshot to kill a nigga, bro, about playing with me. I ain't no nigga to be playing with in those streets like that. And my homies is like, bro, just kickbacks this bullshit. This is all going, everybody know what it is. Just let it filter out. And that's what I've been doing. But I ain't for all of this, bro. I ain't here to cause no destruction between me and the neighborhoods.
1:41:48These dumbass niggas don't know that my struggle with the penitentiary was against me and my homies. Neighborhood niggas, I got niggas I kill you about from neighborhood. The fuck you mean blood niggas too. I'm the key to get all these niggas to calm all this bullshit down. Everybody love me, nigga. In real life. I'm a living legend in the penitentiary area, nigga. You better call somebody an ass so y 'all make me mad, man. Nah, thanks. Yo, I forgot to ask you, what happened with you and Unk? Man, bro. Man, bro. This whole shit can't fool the circle on me, bro. You can't even pick me up, bro. And took me all the way to Camp Capone somewhere.
1:42:26But the other way, the shit is kind of funny, but the homies from 5 News is driving. You know, so he and 5 News in Port Arthur, Texas. But he's driving, and I'm trying to shit this nigga 607 Unk out. So as we go, I'm asking him, I said, where are we going? He said, we're going to Camp Capone. I said, okay, we're going to LA. Do you have a gun in this motherfucker? He said, no, no, no, no, but we got one when we get there. I said, okay, now shit is already feeling freaky with me because I ain't going nowhere without my sign, as Adam said. Shit is feeling freaky with me all day. We get on the phone and he said, yeah, Tony gonna meet us there.
1:43:00Tony gonna meet us there. And I'm like, Tony? Tony who? You talking about the punk Tony Williams? Nigga, I can't be around this dude. This is gonna be violence. What? He tried to set you up with fucking Tony Woolrich? Wait, listen, I don't know if he would set me up or not, bro. Wait, just wait till I'm finished. I don't know if he would, but the nigga Tony Wool was supposed to be there. And I'm saying, hold up, bro. Like, what the fuck? You know what I'm saying? I'm explaining to him, like, bro, look, I don't know how you're playing on here, but we don't play like this, bro. I'm somebody. I got it.
1:43:28Bro, this is not fair to go. He said, oh, no, he going to be doing his interview. He's going to be gone already. So then we get halfway, not even halfway there. We get like 30 minutes away. this nigga telling me oh yeah oh i got oh yeah king phil gonna be there like wait a minute what this nigga king phil there was 15 motherfuckers i'm there by myself no gun so immediately i call my little homies do do do do do niggas up pulling up coming up there now program coming up there but he coming so cool he see what's going on who say okay well well he said that the punk lamb is broke down in the gas station this is how he played me to get away from the situation he said oh yeah oh, 20 rules, they broke down in the gas station, we gotta go help, come on, let's hurry up her.
1:44:09The driver's from 5-0-Zoom, he like, what you want me to do? I'm like, come on, let's just go drop this nigga off to him, whatever, this nigga 607, I jumped in the car with these people and scared out. Called me on the phone, like, bro, your energy off, bro, you scared my girl, you scared my driver, my driver don't listen to me, he's listening to you, I'm like, nigga, you don't know what the fuck you just did. This weird-ass nigga that's trying to say all this faggot-ass bullshit about me, I'm the nigga that pulled the plug on this nigga And King Peel is with them niggas And you gonna deliver me to them niggas I hope you set me up What?
1:44:42He's like no gang it ain't like that It's okay He smashed out and go wherever he's going We go back to me and the driver drive back to Vegas The driver get the fuck on and back to Texas In his nigga car What the fuck? That's insane So he kept the car? I don't know bro I don't know what happened I mean I guess I was too much for him Bro, he said I'm too aggressive. Bro. I'm too aggressive. But think about that. Like, 607 Unc had his bad interaction with 4X. He dissed all the Bloods, and then he drags OG Gumby on a fucking crazy wild goose chase. I mean, what the fuck going on, bro? I'm still trying to call to him, bro.
1:45:21I'm still trying to holler at him. Like, bro, what we doing? How we doing it, bro? Like, what the fuck? I don't know what that shit was. I just think that he don't really understand. I'll tell you she's serious. I don't even think that he playing with it. See, when he around, he don't do all that extra shit. He don't do none of that shit. We don't even play like that. And I understand his character, and he understands, but I don't really think he knows the grunt. Like, I keep telling him, like, he say, oh, God got me. Oh, God got me too, but on Hooper, God got me a grunt too. He doesn't want to play.
1:45:53I'm just saying, you know, I don't really think he understands the gravity of the shit that he did. Niggas had to go behind him. Trigger Bird, myself. We had to go behind this thing and clean up some shit And try to get in touch with him so we can Try to get some business going but he All over the place bro I don't really I don't know You know what I'm saying He's entertaining But I'm gonna be real I don't think You can really rely on 607 Unk Man like I don't trust him as far as I can Throw him It wasn't even the fact that I was trusting Because I'm trying to explain to him that listen The people that you're trying to have me around But one thing he did do I'm a real nigga so I'm gonna keep it clean The nigga made perfect sense to me.
1:46:33He said, listen, gang, listen, gang. How you gonna be mad at Tony, Tony Woolwich for a gang that ain't even real about here? He from the other gang that pushing him say hey from, so how are you mad at, and I said, damn, he's right. And I told him, I said, well, call the nigga and tell him I ain't even tripping on you no more because you, you, you, you right, bro. I can't be mad at a nigga for claiming a gang that ain't even my gang that's close to my gang. That ain't the same. You know what I mean? So, you know what I mean? and tell him, you know, I'm low-key, like, tell the punk, oh, we good, but at the same time, you know what I'm saying, but I don't know what the fuck going on with this nigga right now.
1:47:07I know you weren't going to flick up with Tony Wilridge, though, if you saw him, right? Stop playing with me, bro. Stop playing with me. I don't even play like that. This is what I'm saying. See, if you knew who I was and the things that I represent, bro, like, I don't even play with homosexuality because, see, in our community, we've been pointing the finger at us for so long, bro. We, like, probably one of the most homophobic sets it is. Yeah. It's just looking for shit. It ain't even really nothing. and they looking for it just to say, oh, he gay, he gay, he gay. Like, no, we don't do each other like that.
1:47:34But that's the climate they got us in. This is why I was speaking about the whole four extra and the character. That's the climate they got. We not animals like that, bro. See, they don't even know that they big homies is the reason why I'm still here today. My homies tried to kill me three times. The Crips, the Bloods, all these different dudes who said this little dude standing on his own two feet, bro. We ain't gonna let him just fuck over it. You know what I'm saying? Them is the niggas who supported me. I stand on their shoulders. I don't give a fuck about no fag-ass rumors. I don't care about none of the next real niggas.
1:48:03Big Kelsey from 9-0s. Fucking Spartacus, 7-4. Like, fucking, uh, watch from Raymond. Man, but these is, these is, these niggas and these niggas only talk about. I know these dudes personally. Spartacus is a crazy name for, like, that's an amazing gang name right there. I can't lie. Gumby, tell the last, shut the fuck up. I can't lie. That's a gladiator. Nah, for sure. But, yo, you enjoying seeing these interview clips come out? I've been dying reading the comments and shit. People are loving our dynamic. Yeah, I agree. What it is, let's see. What it is, let's see. These dudes, they going to really β I mean, and people that know me will say that Gumby not even like that, bro.
1:48:45I just believe it. Look, just call a ball a strike a strike. You know what I mean? That's it. You ain't got to be extraed out. Me, I ain't never extraed out until it's my turn. When you call my name, I'm going to show up and show out. That's it. For sure. For me, I don't got to do all the extra shit. I'm just so disappointed in this nigga whack. I don't know what to do. I don't know if I'm supposed to call the dogs on this nigga. I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I'm just bewildered. Like, damn, bro. Like, I always knew that you was on some bullshit when you were in the neighborhood anyway.
1:49:12But, like, fuck me up. Like, that's a big look. Yeah, I'm going to talk to him. I'll try to get him on the same page. I'll talk to that nigga when I'm saying it. He know who he's playing with. Oh, you know what I mean? I ain't no nigga like I black with you. I ain't no nigga to say something behind camera and be, oh, ha, ha, and then later on, we ain't, no, I don't do none of that. It's gonna be one way. That's how I understand. Like, bro, he slowed me down and told me like, bro, look, I always treat you with respect, even when, and he not lying, he, we was at the gang concert, and it was, we was on one side, the neighborhood was on the other side, and he seen me, and cut through the whole little shit, like Gummy was telling you good, y 'all got some shit, y 'all smooth.
1:49:48You know what I'm saying? He did some whole playing shit, so I don't even understand why he feel like that he needed to attack me, but if he feel like that I disrespect each other place to work. Nigga, you should have had your motherfucking ass there. You know who the fuck I am. You playing like you grossed up? Don't do all that, bro. Like, I don't even play like that, bro. And that's the craziest part about it. I don't even know. People are attacking me. Even the dude who named me ain't supposed to say who got kicked off the King Peel song. Bro, I ain't never did nothing to this dude. I've probably seen that dude three times in my whole life.
1:50:18Bro, you can have it. You still trying to prove who you is. You still trying to clean up a mistake. Nigga, I ain't never PC'd up. I never went and told the police somebody did something to me. No, nigga. I think that my shit and went and did what I was supposed to do at all times. So because you're mad, because you fucked up, okay, well be mad. Call me whatever you want to. Bitch, just don't call me Collette. On Hoover. Yo, I appreciate you, Gumby. Much love, man. Alright, be sure. Alright, so we got the official word on the beef between Wack and Gumby. No, I heard that that that, that, that, uh, Ringrich, Ringrich, the story.
1:50:56Willrich. Tony Willrich. I heard that a few days ago. So I'm like, that shit crazy. Yo, what is wrong with Unk trying to surprise him with a fucking gay dude? No, I just think he thinks everything is content, everything is business. You know what I'm saying? He used, he used the gay dude before with, uh, a dude from, uh, PDL. And him just getting out the car and being like, now you got bad energy. Well, also remember, like, Unk has normally, like, he's got his people with him and they're not necessary. They're like other shamanistic characters. Shamanistic. Elaborate. I don't know the best word to describe it.
1:51:35You can't use a big word to try to describe it. Sometimes he'll be showing up and he'll be with a crew of people. Some magical ones. A lot of the people with sometimes will seem like they're capable of casting spells. some witches wizards fairies they look funny looking it's like snow white and the seven dwarfs he's snow white says a lot she said one had a lamp one was there you go do we forget something yeah my motherfucking money man what the fuck oh I got you I got you. I got you. I got you. God damn it. Put me on blast. There's a whole situation. People have no idea. You the new bird, man.
1:52:29He don't pay up. He's about to show up and King Pill me. Oh, a tree of y 'all. Remember, does your verse from the cypher still have the King Pill line? It does. But you showed him some love. Not exactly. It's not a diss or show. I just used him as a reference. You said put a Xanny in my ass? No, nothing like that whatsoever. No, no, but no, he's like part of a play. It wasn't a diss. It was like, I guess at the time, if anything, it's more complimentary. Should I just say what it is? Yeah. I said, this pill's so strong, I had to take Faux Extra. You feel me? That's all I said. That don't seem like a playoff king pill.
1:53:09That seemed like a Faux Extra bar. was both. You feel me? Like this pill so strong, I tried to take faux extra. Because pill tried to take faux extra in a fight, and the pill was so strong, I had to take faux extra pills. I think it's pretty funny. Yeah, it's a good bar, but like you feel me? It wasn't a diss per se. You want to hear a good line that I tried to give to Goyayo, and he basically told me it sucked? I said, I'll do anything for a line. I'm a zip recruiter. like zip recruiter is a website where you can find a job is a zip recruiter get it an ounce is a zip an ounce of lean is a normal increment you would buy of lean you gotta like break down and explain the bar it ain't hidden i know that's that's exactly what he said i think too hard i told munchie i was like bro you got to use this one bar and i thought of for you that shit sucks you want to be no fire bro you have to use that bro like spit it tell it okay He said, I'm such a blood I can't even see.
1:54:14That's the cornball. That's hard, bro. That is hard, bro. That's me, caca. You're a piece of shit. No, that's a. I'm so much a blood. I like it, but you're a piece of shit. I'm such a blood I can't even see. Hey, I wanted him to say that shit out loud. I didn't hear it so. I'm surprised you haven't said that already. It's so. Yeah. Oh, you see that shit fly too? Yes. That's like low-hanging fruit. That's easy. That's fire. Yeah, man. That shit kind of bumped up. I think it's hard. It's like when a... That or the zipper. What's better? Remember when... They're both fire, honestly. Remember when Blueface had that incident with his mom and he kicked her out the crib and then he dropped this song the next day?
1:54:56He said, I had to kick my own blood out. Must have forgot I was a crib. Yo, why does he... That was fire, bro. He has moments of brilliance. That's fire. Because when he said mop the floor, hide the web sign, just hit some slipping. I mean, that's like brilliant. That's like so that's top tier upper echelon rapping that I don't normally expect from him. But sometimes he just comes with something that just rushes. Blue face. He's on the floor. Hide the wet sign just to catch that picture. That picture. He took a pen. I said, and they're looking zesty. Y 'all didn't see it. Blue face. They said they made his career up.
1:55:32They made him. They said he was a handsome man before they made him get all these tattoos on his face. He hates him. He's like, he cripped Mac. They even said to him in the comments. He's still going to have those. Let's be honest. I don't care. That's the comment. When I see the little picture surface, I was just looking at people in the comments. That's the narrative. Blowing the comments up. Like, man, why he got all these tats on his face? And why he put all this and that? And all he's doing is smoking spice and all that shit. I mean, shit. Get loaded in there, man. Have a good time. I'm back to you, too.
1:56:03I never smoked it, but I feel like, you know. If you was in there, you would blow it? I honestly feel like I would probably give it a chance. But I have been warned by people that it's a dangerous road to go down. You hear me? They even fuck their reputations up. I know a few of them, man. People in there fucking their reputations up behind that spice. No, I think if I got locked up, I'll probably still be on my healthy kick like I am now. I'll probably try to eat as good as I can, do push-ups. You got to step away from that spice, man. I don't even drink or do drugs on the outside. I don't know what would change so much on the inside.
1:56:36Dude, man, you got to get some quality tattoos, bro. I think you need to do some sessions, get it removed. Or touched up. You feel me? That's not outside the realm of possibility when we're talking about Blueface. He's always down to do something wild and unexpected, right? Yeah, no, for sure. And I'm surprised that people even are looking or surprised that Blueface would get face shots when he's like that. No, they're surprised at the tag job, the quality. Ah, yeah. I can see that. There might not be the best options. He has a self-destructive streak. Look at the women that he chooses. I mean, Jaden actually seems like a real one.
1:57:15But with Krishan, it's like you can kind of see it. That he's a guy who can kind of have everything available to him. He could be fucking relatively upper echelon women. And he chooses to play amongst the streetwalkers and the bums. Well, I think he also, he's like really... You call Krishan a streetwalker. I mean, let's be real. That's the kind of girl that's going to ruin your life. I think he's aware of his demographic because he curated a whole show of girls that the type of bitches that fuck with him, right? Yeah. I'm going to be a Zach B. who is broad in the whole house. Somebody keep calling my phone, man.
1:57:50I know they know I'm live on those terms. OG Gumby. I don't know. Who could it be? Rich Trapper. Rich Trapper. That's your boy, huh? that's a boy Cam Capone gonna have wrist trapper and king pill next week and dunk
1:58:14what we doing he catching a gleaker y 'all ain't passing up we was gonna do a pod but then Adam talked you out of it nah I never really like talked to Adam about it to be honest like didn't flaco flaco was like trying to like rescind all his beefs now and expects us to just fall in line with him because like previously he was not trying to do podcasts with anybody they had any kind of issues with and then i think he's seen me and realized that for me having people on who don't like me or want to yell at me is great content so like me and gumby like that's that's one of the most interesting podcasts i did in recent memory and all i had to do was be willing to basically tell me that I suck for two hours.
1:58:59And it was great. Oh, man, Donnie, I want to get your thoughts on this. You know that clip is going to go up. So Donnie is from Seattle originally. He was wearing a Mariners hat on the day that we did the Munchie interview. And as soon as Munchie β or no, excuse me, the Gumby interview. As soon as Gumby walks in, because obviously this is a hat that's associated with the role in the 60s, he looks at Donnie and is just like, where are you from? trying to figure out what Donnie's on. And throughout the interview, he kept turning around and looking at Donnie. And then finally, near the end of the interview, he just asked Donnie to turn his hat around.
1:59:35Oh, he's bugging him like that. A white dude wearing his Ops hat that is not a gangbanger, not associated with any of that, was just a little too much for him to take. Well, Donnie had the NY hat on? No, the Seattle hat. No, Seattle hat at the time. He had the whole time to say it. At the beginning, I felt like he was kind of joking. but then I felt like him giving you a hard time was starting to fall out. So then he started like talking to me a little bit, you know, but turning around, like if I was from a hood and for sure, I ain't turning it around, but I grew up there, but I ain't taking it off.
2:00:06You know, I'm going bald. I'm going bald. But you have a hat for a city from a baseball team that you grew up in. Yeah. I don't really. Yeah, man. But sometimes these hats get more serious than tests, bro. Yeah. But would you ever show up to an interview and the person engineering the interview, a.k.a. sitting behind the computer while you're doing the interview, is wearing your Ops hat? Would you ever find it within yourself to give a shit? The stigma that no jumper have. This was known to be a neighborhood, pro-neighborhood crib podcast. No, for real. For a very long time. I feel like it should be pretty easy.
2:00:43There's no neighborhoods on this podcast currently. No, no, no, no, no, no. I never even cared. Like, whatever. I felt the same way he got the neighborhood bug but you know fuck it whatever shit but the stigma he probably thinking like man who got to him he might be texting Conrad I don't know what he thinking he did call out Conrad for talking about putting carrots in people's butts I think a lot of it I think Conrad's being funny though I think a lot of the optics I understand why people be tripping super hard and why things look that way but I think Adam correct me if I'm wrong I feel like for you, it's like there's people that you want to do content with, but then if there's someone on the platform, they might not be as easy.
2:01:27Like if you want, if T-Rail is a regular on the platform, there might be certain people that he don't get along with that you can't necessarily pod with. So then, boom, when he off the platform, let me, oh, I could tap in with this person, that person, and this person now. And then kind of same thing happened with when Brick and like Krip Mac are gone. Then it's okay. Maybe there's certain other people we could bring over. you're saying we're in our hoover era well it's just well i think we're not intentional we already were in a hoover era right like with like we in just a gangster ass era in general man just kind of like oscillate it's just like you know fuck with everybody between different yeah yeah but i don't think it's i think people think that you're purposely being like oh i gotta do it with this guy now i'm gonna bring all his ops around no no i'm just having fun and that's why i'm gonna called VIP Dame right now.
2:02:15We're going to get them. Has been forwarded. Yeah, I want to know if I know from somewhere. Call has been forwarded. I'm going to text him. Because I want to get to the bottom of the narrative about King Pills being a Zestophile. Yeah, he said he had some text messages or something, right? Whoa, does he have... Oh, wait, here we go. I think this is him.
2:02:44Hello? Hello? Yo, yo. This is Dame? Yes, sir. What's going on? It's Adam22 with Ant, Hefe, Lush, and Munchie B live on No Jumper. How you doing, man? Oh, shit. I'm popping it. What's going down? Shit. We just real curious. We trying to get to the bottom of if King Pill's really a booty bandit. All facts, no lies.
2:03:16You already did it So that's why I came with it I've been having that info on me He been doing all the weird shit. So how do you know him in the first place? Well, he was a fan of me. Because, you know, I got a lot of shit going on. Don't let the numbers on this Instagram fool you. Like, I'm known. For sure, he been a fan of me. But when I opened a store in Miami, that's how he was able to get close to me. Okay. He was a fan. He'd been around my store and all the type of shit. A nail salon? When the weird city was coming off in Florida, people were telling me, hey, dude, kind of weird. Right. Since he was from the West Coast, I gave him a chance.
2:04:12Okay. Because they Florida dudes saying this, so it's like, I'm from the West Coast, he's from the West Coast, I'm going to give him a chance. Okay. When I found out with the transsexual, because the transsexual was going big on him back then when it first happened on Instagram, that's what made him take the grill out his mouth and move to Puerto Rico. So when you guys seen him in Puerto Rico, that's why he left Florida because the punk, the punk was trying to expose. Wait, tell me about this transsexual situation. So how did you first become aware of this? I was in Florida and I was already, I already had him hanging around my store and people kept telling me about, about the transsexual situation, they sent me the info.
2:05:04Once they sent me the info, I feel like, no, I don't know. People make sense. So once he got his teeth done and we knew that what he was doing out there, he wasn't getting enough money to put diamonds in there. You know what I'm saying? Like, we knew that. So it was like, but no, like,
2:05:29So you think he was selling his own ass? No, no, no, no. He said the punk paid for the tea. I don't know what he was doing, but that's no shit that he's popping in. Broke boy activity. You would see a nigga broke. And all of a sudden, he's starting to add diamonds and shit, and it ended up he'd be on some punk shit. So I guess he followed the shit that goes on in Miami. Can you elaborate? What does that mean, that shit that goes on in Miami, quote unquote? Everybody's zesty out there or what? It's not everybody's zesty, but everybody want to live that lifestyle. And once they can't do it theyself, they got to do some shit.
2:06:06So you think that the era of King Phil's life where he was wearing pink nail polish and had pink hair and shit, that that was all like basically at the same time that he was maybe having sex with punks? He had to. It had, that's what had tapped it from what the punk was saying on the lives. That's when it really, you know, when everybody started believing it, because when he got into it with the jeweler, the jeweler started sending me more and more things. Like, it was stuff I haven't even revealed yet. I haven't even let out the door yet. Because I'm waiting on him to respond. So we can bring out this other shit that I got.
2:06:46He didn't respond. You know what I'm saying? Hey bro So the punk Was breaking him off basically Facts For sure And he took The grill out of his mouth Because of why Because the punk Started going on live Like get him diamonds in his mouth I paid for that I wasn't seeing a lot The punk repoed it He's probably scared of the punk Man, look at him, man. Look, tell him to take out this motherfucker guy that got our initials on there. Yeah. Oh, crazy. Hey, let's keep it real, and I'm going to let Adam get back to the phone conversation. Man, and this ain't no shade or nothing, bro. No malice, not being biased, bro.
2:07:38People can't see the weirds, bro. We acting like we see what's going on. Like, is we going to just cast everything up to acting? All these street dudes out here that's in the street, that's been in the street gangbanging, acting like they don't see the fucking weird behavior. I don't condone it acting gay. You can act all you want, but acting that way is different. But I'm just saying like - As we blaming everything on acting, like this ain't Hollywood. We're not acting like you're not heterosexual. We're going to talk everything up to acting. Still, as an active gang member, you need to conduct yourself a certain type of way.
2:08:10Yeah, what I'm curious about VIP Dame, like when you first became aware of this, did a part of you be like damn I need to like let the people know from his section you feel me like what's going on with it like why was you still hanging around him when you found out he was messing with the punk that's yeah that's the question I never really I never really hung with him was he hanging at your store after you figured out like all the like I'm a I'm a big old piece so it's like all the piece was hanging at my store that was how he was even he was even able to even create relationships with different type of peas that didn't know about it just by hanging at my store with my kind of iconic moment for Miami for people to kick it at and hang it without police and all that bother.
2:08:55So he used to come up here. Okay. Look, bro. Do you think he was pimping on the transgender? Either way, it's not straight. Not for sure. He just said nobody was doing that. But at the same time, That can be possible, you know what I'm saying, because his baby mama never got a chance to do no honing because he kept nothing in her all the time and had a back-to-back baby. So, you know what I'm saying, she never got a chance to, you know what I'm saying, so he was struggling a lot out there. That's why he had to sell bootleg cell phone accessories and all that type of shit. What? My nigga hustle, man.
2:09:35Let's go. Hey, man, hey, hey, hold on. How long ago you been saying this, bro? I'm trying to figure out he ain't rebuttal yet. He's trying to call right now. Oh, he is? I would take that. You gonna merge it? Oh, fuck. I was trying to merge it, but it hung up on... I think they might be yelling, bro. Yo, what's the deal? Yo, I think it accidentally hung up on our boy, Dame. Man, that nigga, Dame, was the puck. Nigga, that was the only punk I knew in Miami. Nigga, he VIP punk. VIP punk game, nigga. Hey, nigga. Hey, nigga, I done been in the past six years. Nigga, I ain't never have got no smut on my jacket for fucking with a boy, nigga.
2:10:20Fuck wrong with y 'all, nigga. Y 'all for the ass leaning the plug how big this dick is, nigga. I'll slap the fuck out of half a fat black ass, nigga. Yeah, nigga, fat truck driver looking ass, nigga. Fuck y 'all, nigga. Ah! what's going on what the fuck that was it
2:10:42hello yo sorry
2:10:46yo dame yeah sorry I was trying to merge the call it didn't work it hung up on you or put you on hold yeah he just called in he said you were the punk yeah I don't know he gonna try all the shit that he can to get out but we got Show you proof how I show proof. Don't try to compare yourself to Don Juan, the motherfucking legendary Don Juan. I ain't even seen Don Juan on no pink nails. What the fuck is the nigga talking about? I ain't seen Prince with pink nails, man. What the fuck is the nigga talking about? Niggas out here playing boobies. Hey, man. Hey, so you said you threw some receipts out there already?
2:11:30Yeah, he knew. But where's the receipts? He knows. Nah, I'm waiting for him. He got to do with his thing. He got to. Well, he just called you. He said he tried to put it on you. He said you the only punk he ever, after what, you VIP the punk. He talking about, you talking about Tosil. Man, he been saying the same shit. I already heard all this. He already text next to me on Instagram and all that shit he trying to say. He's not funny. He's trying to make the joke. We being real right now. We ain't just doing no jokes right now. And let's be real. Like if you, if you were secretly gay, why would you be putting a gay accusation on him?
2:12:15Which would obviously just make people more likely to find out that you were secret. You know, like it doesn't make sense that you would make that up if you were also hiding that secret, but isn't the burden of proof on a game at this point, low key. That's the, I'm putting on the receipts. Yeah. Why when he found me again before they took my old Instagram? Why when he found me just recently? This is like eight months ago when he started this and sad at me. Why was he trying to lose weight so he can dress like me so he can buy the gold? This isn't helping. I got some brother shit going on. That's what it sounds like.
2:12:54I never seen a successful moment in his pimpin' ever. Why was he doing them women like that? So he had some toes before though. Man, I don't know if they was toes. I'd call them some motherfucking athlete feet.
2:13:11But he was sending something, right? Man, I don't know. No, no, no, no. I'm trying to get this whole Miami chapter. I'm saying he He was bragging about a 2012 S550 that he say he got off the bitch, but that car's old, and you was bragging about that motherfucker in 2012. Niggas said a baby Maybach. What they had, the Maybach parts put on an S550. Talk about a baby Maybach. These niggas think they be tricking, man. You're body backing man. You familiar with Perrion? Perrion. It was Perrion. No, never mind. No, no, no, no. Oh, he's supposed to be some ism? Yeah, he out there in Miami, but never mind.
2:13:59Go ahead, though. Yeah, because you're from Englewood, right? Like, do you and Munchie know each other or not? No, I don't think I remember. I know people from where he's from, but you know what I'm saying? I ain't doing no gang politics and all that. That's why he keeps trying to gangbang on me. I ain't saying nothing. You're probably talking about Khalil or Khalil. I ain't saying nothing they got to do with gangbang. All I'm is showing these people that you're gay. That's it.
2:14:27I am a pea Been a pea Been a pea so long I can't claim Nothing else Is fingernails a normal thing For peas in Miami Everybody know Everywhere Not just Miami
2:14:45When I sent the bishop The picture of Keith Before the gang banging or what He did his nails like that because of you. Bishop started laughing at this clown, homie. Hold on, what? Hold on, hold on, hold on. He said he painted his nails because of the Bishop Don Juan? Yeah. But not the color pink, right? Not the color. Don Juan ain't never wore pink, and he only do one pinky nail green because that's part of his character, homie. That's a P. He not doing a full set to match his afro. No. That nigga looking like a chia pet.
2:15:22Hey, man. Shit is crazy. So are you going to drop these receipts of King Phil? Because I feel like that's what's going to clinch this whole thing. I'm going to drop the rest. You know what I'm saying? My jeweler, my jeweler, he know who the jeweler is. You know what I'm saying? He know him. He got into it with the jeweler too. Because when Dick said about the big cubanly from the jeweler in Miami, he was mad at that. So he started dissing the jeweler. It's like P-Valley.
2:15:52Man, bro Shit, the world Got it Man, why'd he take the grill out? I would've kept the grill in, bro Alright, yo, appreciate you, Dame Thank you for all the information, man Is that gonna save fate? I don't understand I still don't get why the grill was taken out That ain't gonna help your case Because it was from the punk so what? I'm just going to disavow all affiliation that ain't going to erase nothing taking the grill out yeah this is probably one of the funniest episodes we ever did I'm not allowed I'm laughing my ass off one of the most confusing situations that's ever happened I thought he was trying to say I was banging on him I said huh you gotta leave these gang politics alone you keep having to get deeper and deeper into like our universe in order to understand these episodes like a lot of times when I think about someone and like oh maybe we could try them out I'm like man They're not going to know what the fuck we talk about.
2:16:48It's crazy. Everybody had a chapter with this dude, and all the chapters was like some weird shit. Yeah. Oh, man. King Pell, man. What a rise and fall, if this really is how it appears to be going. I know the nigga baby mama cousin that hit me, all type of people. You know what I'm saying? For real? No, everything. I ain't one of them niggas. I don't put everything out there. Nigga baby mama cousin hit me that he ain't went to jail with. When he was banging Lutus Park, he called a case with the dude. He from out there in Pomona. I ain't going to really say his name or put him out there and shit.
2:17:22But, yeah, man, that dude is a J-cat, bro. Hey, man. A J-cat, bro. To be a buster, a punk, a hood hopper is one thing. But when you cross over to this homosexuality thing, that's another. And I'm not even putting that on him, like I said. That's what I'm saying. I want some receipts. I can never beef with somebody. He turned the hood in jail, bro. Like, come on, bro. We gots to be, like, for real. like he ain't even been through like what niggas been through like besides jail like he turned the hood in jail that's some jacash shit you know i'm saying um so like meaning so when he was but as a man who what man like what what man like for real what man who who paint name what gang member like so that's what i'm saying was this before the the the phase of wherever he from like what man painting their fingernails am I tributary to VIP say that it's like normal though no I think y 'all were saying it's at the same time he didn't say that was normal like ask was any of the other pimps out there in Florida doing it or Miami doing it he said no he said Magic Don Juan he said he tried to basically put himself beside Magic Don Juan make some type of comparisons and he said no Magic Don Juan was painting one nail green Okay.
2:18:36Nigga money. Nigga on his character. Nigga the bishop. The Don Juan. Ain't no pink. None of that shit. Not no full set nails. None of that shit, bro. So there's no way anybody could claim that that's like some pimp shit, some fly shit. It ain't, bro. Yeah. It ain't. It ain't no pimp shit. I had a homie, bro, and he had one pinky nail and he had the little dollar sign. And he had real money. He used to rip up real money and they put it on the nail. I don't know why he doing that shit. But he, you know what I'm saying? But it was green and it was money. It wasn't pink. It wasn't hot pink. It wasn't peach.
2:19:11Or none of that shit. But you know what I mean? Shit. You politic, don't you? Nah, I politic on shit. That's just some pimp shit, I guess. I used to look at it like... But it wasn't... It was some dollar sign shit on there. I know that. Like for sure, that's what I be saying. We ain't gonna play. We know like some real ism. and we know when you're doing some shit you got no business doing it. That shit all them hands, that's some shit you ain't got no business doing. I ain't gonna lie. The wig and the nails, that's already out. That's a negative. But I would like for him to produce the receipts to change it.
2:19:53I agree. I think the burden of proof is now on because that's already horrible that you got some pink hair and pink nails, okay? but I'm not even about to play and be for nobody that's playing these type of games bro you can't put no photo I'm just saying you know as a journalist I'm being quick people people try to like come on I got some type of smoke I don't got no smoke with that dude we seen all the weird shit to happen but you know even him calling in with this weird shit to my slapping people with dicks and all this weird shit bro you got pink nails and a pink motherfucking mcdonald wig bro I can't take a nigga like you serious bro like I've known bips have like long nails like you like the little coke scoopers, you feel me?
2:20:31But I ain't never seen nothing like that. Nah, but them nails be natural. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They might play with that pinky nail and do some type of shit. But when their nails be long, all across, it be their natural nails, bro. And I literally thought that was for cocaine purposes. Listen, listen. Some people, it is. Trying to play like he's some ism. He got too many characters, bro. He like Mick Foley, Do Love, Cactus Jack, Mankind. That nigga got too many characters, bro. He would make sense as a wrestler. For sure. He good at entertainment, for real. And that's what he really needs to stick to.
2:21:06They need to get him an agent. Hollywood may be wrestling some shit like that. He got the little King Peloton shit. Then he can come out with the nails and the wig wrestling shit. Different shit. But the shit he got going on, gang banging, man. He need to just hang that shit up. At this age and shit that's coming out and he already done. Man, that's me. Where I was getting at, I was trying to say. he actually did have bitches, a bitch or two, or whether it was liquors or not, he had them before. That's what I was asking. You feel me? I was trying to confirm it because he didn't say it before, but he said, those athlete feet, they not toes.
2:21:37I get it. It wasn't on here. It was a dude. It was athlete feet. It's a dude is what that means. Oh, that's what that means? Hell yeah, that's what he was saying. He's like, when you said I'm going to send, did he send toes? He's like, I don't really call those toes. I was saying athlete feet. I'm thinking he was saying it wasn't really a dude. It wasn't really a bitch said he was saying it. I heard that. Oh, that's funny. I sound crazy for interpreting like that. I took it. I thought it was just another term for a prostitute street walker. I thought he was like, I can't really because toes, when you said toes, you meant bitches, right?
2:22:08Like did he say it? Exactly. So when he said, I can't really say they toes. They're more like athlete feet and we were just talking about, hey, was he pimping on the train? I can neither confirm or deny that. It just seemed to me that's what he was insinuating with that. So that transmission put put some diamonds in his mouth and he said where did you get that money from because you ain't clocking on dollars like that you feel me but still all in all I wouldn't have took it out maybe you took it out to sell a grill that's like them people who be in jail man I know you probably ain't heard of them people who be in jail they be trying to think they slick they be having them little pen pals and they be like writing gay people and like writing transgenders getting them to send money because they in jail he one of them type people writing gay people No, no, no, you're there like a punk.
2:22:53He's like, you know, get some money out of him. He's broken shit, because, like, tripping over$200, like, that's on God. Like, bro, I did so many, I did so many NoJumber interviews, bro. I never turned around to no episode and tripped about no money or something. Like, hey, where my money at? Or none of that shit, bro. Like, tripping over$200, bro. The thing is, like, he was not tripping about$200. He was tripping because he was fucking aggrieved about the fact that you fucking basically made him look bad. Even though you like really kind of made it easy, you know, fucking. Oh, yeah. Okay. I forgot.
2:23:24I'm sorry. I hate to do this abruptly, but I have another call that I think it's important that we make here. What the fuck? What an episode, guys. Yo, this is crazy. What a great, we really politic on this episode. I just realized that I had to, man, this guy's only had so much time. So, I'll introduce him once I have. it politicking and the nails are polished j real how you doing what's good with it what's going on we on here with lush and jefe and munchie b
2:23:59so um you you were making some uh some waves over the course of the past week because you went on the viral way and you had uh some words to say that i myself found kind of interesting um Some of those words were aimed at T-Rell and smack of back on fig. Can we talk about it? I mean, we can talk about it. I mean, you know, there's a couple other bullseyes up there, too. You know what I'm saying? But first, let me say, first of all, a lot of the conversation was just specifically geared towards T-Rail and the foundation. Smack, my boy. I've been on Smack for years and years and years. I'd actually seen him that morning before I went and did the podcast and things that was said was said.
2:24:58But, yeah, my thing is this, you know, and shout out to Gorilla Hebrew, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to Gorilla Hebrew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we definitely own that same wavelength. My thing is this, is like when you build a house on a foundation, but you neglect those who laid the pavement, it's a situation. It's something to be looked at. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of like if you go and stay in somebody's house and you make improvements on a certain room and then you put a lock on the door and say the people's house can't come in that room because you made certain improvements because you, you know, kind of leveled up on a certain way.
2:25:48And I'm talking about back on Fig itself, which ain't no malice. I'm from Figaro. I'm from 52nd Hoover Street. You know what I'm saying? I am Fig. I am Figaro. You know what I'm saying? And so when I look at the situation, I say, okay, I see the homies. They coming up. They doing their thing as they should. But where is the respect? Right. At what point do you say, okay, we up, we on here. You got, you know, y 'all are engaging. You got Joe Buttons talking about back on fire. Yeah, y 'all been coming. Okay. Now it should be prime time where you actually go back on Fig for real and stop just using it as a name.
2:26:37You feel me? At this point, it's like, okay, well, I'm looking at back on Fig, but I'm not really seeing too many Fig members. I'm seeing buzz. I'm seeing, you know, unknowns. It's not just a gangbang. This ain't just about representing some type of neighborhood or some type of hood. but I'm looking at you know the freestyle sessions y 'all got guests coming on and I get it guest spots for artists trying to get themselves out there and drop new music and all that but you gotta feel the homies on fit that's way for you to come back on fit yeah I mean like so have you reached out and tried to get in touch about getting some kind of support for what you got going on musically because I agree that would be nice if they were able to you know do anything for the community sometimes it feels like T-Rail is kind of more just concerned with being on his fancy vacations with retired NBA stars and stuff.
2:27:30T. Real. That's what T. Real concerned about. He concerned about himself. That's the only reason he on boats with academics, you know, gushy-gushy and tipping up bottles and grown-ass men's mouths and shit. Whoa. We're talking about some, you know, now we're talking about the personality of an individual versus the platform and the foundation that that individual stands on. Now, this don't go against back on Fig as a unit, as everything that they're doing. Like I said, I am Fig. My homies is Fig. Shout out Big Skull. You know what I'm saying? We are Fig. So when they come back on Fig, they come back to us.
2:28:08So we get it. We proud of the motion. We just want to understand where did you feel that you became Fig all on your own to yourself. And this is excluded smack. You just ain't got nothing to really do with Smack because me and Smack have talked multiple times. And I've asked Smack, hey, what's going on with T-Rewl? You know, really, it shouldn't even be no question. Really, I shouldn't be able to just pull up, walk in the door. But as being respectful to the platform and the business, let's schedule something. Y 'all know I'm a self-published author. Y 'all know I'm acting. Y 'all know I've been doing music.
2:28:45I got a song with Schoolboy Q. So it's like, why are we not acknowledging the homie who's in the building, but not in the right? The homie in the building, but he's not in the room. And then I look at it, I say, OK, well, this guy's concerned. You know, he out trying to do cooking shows with his girl and shit. They go get a lifetime channel, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Go, you know. Go home. And maybe in a year or two, we won't even see T-Rill on back on fake no more. Nah, yeah. Yeah, he might become a makeup artist or something. But, yo, for real, when I first started to think that there might have been something wrong with homie is when he basically, like, you know, Big Deal, who's really, like, when it comes down to it, Big Deal is the reason why T-Rail is in any way able to associate himself with the Hoovers or claim that he's in any way from there.
2:29:36And Big Deal was trying to, like, start a little show or have a stream on back on Fig, and T-Rail just shut him down and basically told him he didn't want anything to do with it, which is basically what led to me and Big Deal uniting and doing content and stuff like that. But that's when I realized that this was somebody who had a real inability to spread the blessings around, you know? This is the ongoing, like I said, Gorilla Hebrew. He didn't say it. Y 'all didn't hear him say it. You know what I'm saying? A couple of other homies, you know, that I'm not going to put their specific name out because I don't know how they, you know what I'm saying, feel about that, you know?
2:30:14But I was definitely in conversations with a couple of the homies prior to this interview, knowing that I was going to be here. And they asked me to be a voice for this situation. Look, they've got to stop using Hulu, 5-2-5-1 especially as a credit card. Y 'all using Hulu as a credit card. Like, you can just swipe it and get stuff up out of it and not pay back. You know what I'm saying? Everybody got to pay once a month on their credit card bill. Never leave home without it. You just can't go and swipe your card and think you're going to receive and not have to give back. And when you get, we're not pressing in a manner of, like I said, because it ain't no malice.
2:31:02It ain't no none of that type of stuff. I'm not going to see him in the turf. and if I ever see him in the turf, I'm not going to see him in the turf and it'd be a pressing situation, oh, woopie woopie, but the thing about it is, you know damn well, Smackdown told you, everybody who wants to be a part of this, you claim you created this foundation from Figaro, from the Hovers. You know, you claim that you created this foundation from that and while we don't see them, not even a half or major, most of your guests or artists, I hardly see anyone was on there unless it's smack, unless it's one or two of the homies.
2:31:44But you got everybody else coming in through the side door. When you got homies that's in the living room, you won't even let in the backyard. The milk thing didn't turn out that good, really, huh? You know? And so that subject matter became very serious to me and an understanding of why your ops, your podcast ops, is calling the homies to put them on their shows and you whistling Dixie on the boat with your op in real life. So you didn't like seeing T-Rail turn it down around academics after attacking him just a few weeks ago? Which made no sense to me when the homies been reaching out to you on some positive connection trying to put positivity and show what they got going on, coming out, you living and basking in the drama, and then you low-key, you make us look some type of way.
2:32:46Because the outside people looking in, oh, nigga, that's what Figaro represent. Oh, that's how dudes from Fig in it. Oh, that's how the moving dudes do. Oh, they talk shit and throw rocks and high hands and then go lay up with the nigga. You know what I'm saying? So when you repping, when you doing stuff like that, bro, and like I said, cousin is on the world. And I get it. Ain't nobody... I talk to Smack about it. And Smack just... Why Smack can't have you come on there? Hasn't there been a lot of people, though? They've had a good amount of people from that community over there and interviewed and been on the pod, right?
2:33:26No, no. How much of the responsibility on Smack, though? Why Smack can't have nobody come up there, though? It did. This is the question. This is the question. That was my initial question the first couple of times I talked to him about it. And what came about with the interview with the viral way, the first one, where it was just flat off from T-Rail, you know what I'm saying? that came about because of the continuous conversations that happen in the dark i had to break she my thing is i'll i'll talk to you in the dark my guy ain't nobody gotta see or hear what we talking about because you know it is what it is when we talking about it but when when we when when you keep the shit we talking about in the dark and act like we never talked about it okay now j real gotta break some shit into the light because not am i not the only one that uh feel this way, I'm not the only one that it reached out to you personally, smack AD, all that type of shit.
2:34:24You know what I'm saying? Even AD, even AD, when I said something about him, he responded with going on his show, putting the clip up, having dialogue about it, and then we talked outside of the show about it and yada, yada, yada, right? I could come on his shit anytime. Do you think, is there a chance that T-Rail is just actually scared and maybe like buying into some of the anti-Hoover rhetoric out there? He basically feels like if he lets too many Hoovers in the door, that they're going to take advantage of him, extort him, sabotage his business somehow. What are the boys in the neighborhoods and everybody else you got up there doing?
2:35:09What are they doing? Shit, but you always got to be more worried about the people that are the closest to you and your own family, in some respect, could be the one that are the most threatening. It could be, but the thing about it is when you're sitting across the table, and this, you know, they already got me labeled as a crybaby and a hand and all that on the internet. I don't give a flying fuck. Anything you say out of my mouth is 100 % real and is based in facts. I don't give a fuck how I say it and how you hear it, But when you sitting at a table and the motherfucker right at the end of the table eating filet mignon, you eating noodles, and y 'all sharing the same refrigerator, nigga, we gotta have a conversation.
2:35:46I don't give a fuck about it. I'm gonna steal your meal if I'm eating noodles and I see you eating filet mignon, we at the same table. Then you gonna have to be worried. But when you break bread, like Jesus said, from the jump, knowing that the foundation you built your shit on come off the back of my homies. My homies that's doing time. Dead time. You know how many homies we done lost on Fig? You know how many funerals I done been to talking about Figaro? You know what I'm saying? Talking about this quote-unquote good shit and what we're He just need to change the name of his pocket. That's what I'm saying.
2:36:21It sounds like it's getting more complicated. Hey, no, for real, for real. I'm just thinking about it. I feel like this. It's not he should feel obligated. He is obligated. I know he don't watch this. You are obligated. It is your job to put more of the homies on. The further you go up, the homies should be going up. It is your obligation. Why? Because you used the foundation that we built to get where you at, nigga. How you going to walk up the stairs we built and tell us we can't come to the second floor? Nah, facts. Now, if y 'all want to get on WAC 100, dusty ass, we can go there, too. Wait, wait, wait.
2:37:06What's the problem with Wack? Hey, um, Bluzz, I'm here for it. And I got this song coming from Blueface and Gay. Oh, shit, you acting. All right, all right. I got this song coming from Blueface. See, the thing about Wack is he not a hip-hop artist. He not a rapper. We got to say it from our hood. Whatever dude size, dudes you got a certain size, we got a size to match. So if we were in an altercation and I'm bigger than you or you smaller than me, I just go get a dude your size. And since you're not a rapper, and you got them non-lyricist-ass, bubblegum-rap-ass artists over there, tell them to get in the studio so we can match Wentz, and I can show you who I am.
2:37:46Since you don't know who J-Rida really is, nigga, I ain't never seen you nowhere until Adam came about. Nigga, I ain't never heard of you until Adam came. Nigga, I mean, I'm born and raised in South Central Los Angeles. I'm in this industry shit, always been in the background. I ain't never heard of you. I ain't never heard of you. And now all of a sudden you popping up on podcasts. You got artists. You everywhere. You got badges in your wallet. Man, what is going on? This is insane, guys. I ain't never seen nobody to jail. That's a lot. We got record that you can put a couple niggas behind bars with your sneak snitching.
2:38:22Not sneak snitching. Then on top of that, who carry a badge? Don't people that wear badges take people to jail? Ain't that why you got a badge? Goddamn. People who wear badges take other people to jail, yes or no? Unless you're a security guard, nigga. And then who are you protecting? Because it's not yourself and it's not the whack-ass artists you got over there. I feel you. They're talking about game two. Yo, I got a question. Who do you take, Young Hawk or Gumby in their little feud? Bro, the homie, I was talking to the homie about Gumby yesterday. Jolomi is really, really, he'd be super extra with the gangbang type of stuff.
2:39:03But I know him more personally. So I'm going to just go with who I know. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Just wondering. There's a little Hoover Civil War going on over there. Yeah, that's what, you know, everybody got their own little cliques and shit within every type of organization. It don't matter what, if it's gangs or church, everybody got their own little section of people that they deal with. every day and you know I feel it yo but as far as T-Rail all I gotta say is that the groove God giveth and the groove God taketh away like I said on the Sunday I'm gonna be back on feed you can't stop that just pull up Smack can't stop that whoever they pay rent to for that building.
2:39:59Yeah, you gotta change the name of the body. They ain't got security and nothing, just pull up. Change the name. Yeah, I know that, but I don't just, you feel me? It's a respectable, you feel me? I've been knowing where y 'all shit was where it was. That don't mean I just go, you know what I'm saying? So, it's about the, it's not just about the invite, but it's about the understanding that you, you are not blind, homie, especially about J-Real. When it comes to this music and this all the shit combined. There's nobody around this motherfucker with an orange rag who don't know who I am. And there's not a prominent West Coast rap artist who don't know who I am.
2:40:33I am here for the diss track. I want to hear the diss tracks for show. KF Turn, G Perico, nigga, all down the line. You ask him about J Real, it's all inside everybody. Yeah, I know the homie. I'm the most unknown known nigga in Los Angeles. But I guess it's time for a nigga to come up out of the dart and start flashing like a Kodak camera on these guys. Y 'all got it all the way messed up. This track's coming for Blue Facing game. Fuck that one thing. It's about T-Rio. Yo, you got to pull up next time you're in town. When I'm down, I'm going to hit you and I'm going to pull up. We're going to talk about it.
2:41:11Let's get it. J-Rio, I appreciate you calling in, man. Thank you. Yes, sir. That's a cold combination, right? So he like basically, he pulling up to back on Fig and they can't stop him from getting in the building, but it's fuck T-Rail. That's crazy, yeah. That's cool. How that's supposed to be? No messy shit. I disagree with a lot of that. At what point if you're T-Railing them, have you done enough, you feel me, to warrant it? How many guys do you have to have? Does every single person from the hood have to be over there? Bottom line, who Hoover is just not respecting T-Rell, bro. That's all that is.
2:41:52He conveniently skipped over Smack. Smack the homie. I'm like, damn. And I asked how much of the responsibility is on Smack. Can he invite you? And he didn't answer. He said he kind of was like, well, I try to say the same shit. Nah, he didn't answer. I don't think Smack is like calling the shots. No, no, no, no. But one thing about it. Smack is all grown. But this is the thing. Like, if he ties. See, one thing about it. I don't know their situation. but just like I know what people like people just expectations be there like sometimes you gotta like tap in and be like what's up so I don't know if I misheard I don't know if he tapped in or not but Smack could bring you there Smack brought me back Smack brought me to that motherfucker Smack called me Smack brought me back on that motherfucker so I know Smack and beat me I didn't know T-Rail I know Big Deal and I know Smack and when Smack brought me there I met T-Rail, you feel me?
2:42:45So Smack can bring you there. So it's like, shit, that was just probably like a conversation. He could have tapped in with Smack. Like, hey, what's up? We trying to come back on Fig. And I'm pretty sure Smack would have probably been like, come on. Next time I go to Turks, I'm having Larry Bird pay for it. As long as retired NBA players are taking podcasters on trips. Carl Malone. I don't know. John Stockton. Carl Malone is your cousin? My blood cousin. on my dad. The mailman? My dad. His dad. They brothers and shit, for sure. That's some crazy shit. That's like the golden era. When I was at the Airbnb in Palm Springs, they had the NBA Jam arcade game.
2:43:29This is the best. That era of NBA stars, that's like the only era that I gave a shit about. When I was a kid, NBA Jam just had me so sprung. Sean Kemp, Charles Barkley. Big head code. Big head code, for sure. Hey, I got a question. Pull up with a big head go. Hey, Lush, you know the music? You be tapped in, whether it's battle rap, album cameras, all that. So you heard of J-Rebel before? I'm not going to lie. I'm not familiar. Me neither. Yeah, and I'm like. But I'm going to tap in. I want to hear his music. He said the most unknown. He said he's about to start coming out and flashing. Yeah, no, no, no.
2:44:04But at this point, I want to hear. His frame of reference is where G Perico and Taya Third. So these are people that have actually been outside in the city. Okay. But the game is not weak, though. Game is not weak. It's subjective when it comes to Blueface. Some people say you rap off beat or whatever, but Game, he's not weak. Love him or hate him, the Game has gone toe-to-toe and actually dismantled a lot of the best rappers. Game could possibly be a battle rapper. He's definitely one of the industry rappers that's best poised to enter battle rap 1 ,000%. Ben said that. For many moons. And now, like with the exception of that weird Eminem thing, he tried to pull, he was damn near batting a thousand.
2:44:49He was damn near. Like I had a perfect record before he decided to do that. He targeted everything associated to whack. What's the one that's on the song ghetto with a boy? The, which one? Oh, that's a, I just interviewed him. No, no, no. Again, I mean, whack artists, the dude. True car. True car. True car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. You could target him, but the game is hard, bro. The game is a legend. He got classics. The game and Wack is beefing? No. No. Didn't he just say the game and Blueface got diss tracks coming? No. J-Rail said he got a switch on the blick. He bustling everything. Wack diss coming, Blueface, the game.
2:45:30He said the game. But I thought he was. No, that's why I was kind of confused. I thought that he was saying that Blueface and Game had diss tracks coming at Wack. No, he's coming at all them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could probably bar True Car and Blueface up, but the game, that's a tall task. I haven't even heard this guy rap to say that he can even bar his True Car. Ain't no slouch on the mic either, you feel me? You know, like trash. I need to hear you. I need to hear you. Like you said, I need to hear you. That's what I'm saying. I got to hear you. We'll all do a review. We'll do the review tonight.
2:46:01We'll decide if he is back on Figworth. Since I think we should be involved in that decision-making process. I agree. I think T-Rell needs to trust us He needs to trust us I can change the name of my podcast It's basically a no jumper podcast If you're not the tough guy Just change the name of the podcast Let's play Crackers Council A.K.A. Devil's Advocate real quick Milk changed his name He stopped saying 7.4 seconds He took the 7.4 out of the shit But T-Rell interviewed He interviewed He had Threat He had Treyway. He had Polk. He had Sharky. He had Milk as his co-host for a while. Isn't TF from 5-1?
2:46:45I'm pretty sure. I might be mistaken. He definitely fucked. There's definitely other fools from that community that has been a part of the adjacent figmunity world. At what point do you be like, okay, do you have to have every single person that carries that? How does it work? It sounds like he hasn't been on there. it's a him thing that's kind of what it sounds like but i have her complaints like he he don't reach back but i mean the roster username i didn't know that you know these are all people that he between no jumper and um back on big and i think he should be required to let any hoover member hang out at the warehouse anytime you want to on camera or off camera at what point and also some of them should be able to sleep there.
2:47:32If I was T-Rail right now, I'd be like, this podcast is no longer called Back on Pig. I'm literally changing the name. Smack of T-Rail. Yeah, yeah, it's called the Smack of T-Rail Show. Smack name first. So, so, so, let's just say. That ain't got to be. No, no, that's not. Whoever, T-Rail is smack, smack of T-Rail. Let's say Ed got Third Street Records, right? And I'm from A-Trey. He got to sign. Everybody's up. I'm from A-Trey. I done slid for it I done put in the time My ref might not be all that tight But so what On H-Trick Hens you gonna sign me I mean tomorrow That's a lot of people You better bring a pin No You better bring a pin These the type of thing That split things up That shit sound like Damn bro For real for real For me I don't gonna look into it gotta be some type of malice or some type of dislike of beef there because like I said Smack I've been knowing Smack since Juvenile Smack brought me on and like I don't know who Jay Rilla is or whoever he is but he's basically like he out of that community so if you out of that community and like he didn't point out you just seen shit um Face up there you just seen Face up there shit like two weeks ago Face up there like G Face yeah you know what I'm saying tiny face you just saying i'm saying tf up there tiny face up there a lot so it's like he have had people out the hoover community up there and then it's just like oh you shit i look you can't if i got some shit let's just say i got some shit that's called between normandy and western right and i'm doing my thing bro like of course just because i'm for my community i'm gonna bring some people through there but like don't step to me as if i'm not a person who ain't put my life on the line and serve for this community been through jails and struggle strong alone for this community you can't just like get at me like that like you get at people like that who really that's in position who owe the community and ain't did that much for the community i like shit serve for this shit so you definitely can't talk to me like that well it sounds like he using the brand Fig on, if it wasn't like back on Fig maybe it wouldn't be these issues I think you should maybe think of transitioning and going to another handle, go buy another handle You gotta hear all this kid raps, like if he's firing this guy, he might be a grown ass man, my bad If he's fired, you feel me?
2:50:07Fig is a street though Fig is like Fig is like 40 from hoods Yeah, but I mean, I know he got the thing with the orange couches and all that in there so you can buy all that's Hoover But yeah, orange in the chat But it ain't like he like back on Hoover Street It's true. Well, he did tell Luz Cannon to stroll up in the chat. He using gang slurs? I seen Heather throwing up, Hoover. Man, he should keep his girl out of stuff, bro. But that ain't none of my business. I'll take that back. Big Deal said that he got fades for her. Man, see, that's why I ain't going for it with my baby mama. T-Roll's girl, Heather.
2:50:45And that she's running from a shame pulling up. She's not accepting her fades. I wonder why dad spoke about Them females might have stupid hands, bro. Shit. I ain't going to play with them. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, my business is like a PPP. I'm kidding. Shit, crazy. All right, yo. So did everybody listen to the three releases that we specified? I want everybody to say what their favorite was. Justin Bieber, Swag, The Clips, I forget, or Jack Boyz 2. Which one were you feeling the most if you got a chance to listen to him? Personally, I'm gung-ho about this Bieber album. Never felt this way. Never gave a fuck about him.
2:51:32Never listened to him. Never cared. This album is immaculate. It's beautiful. He got a song called Go Baby I like on here. Go baby. Go baby. Yeah. I would encourage anybody like me. I wasn't feeling those two musical. Musical? it's more of a ballad the way he starts it off it's like a slower record you feel me but I'd like to say that I was the first in the group chat to be like the new Bieber is absolutely retarded I would have never got out of my way to listen to it but my wife was listening to it like the moment it came out and she was going nuts for it as like a childhood Justin Bieber fan I'll say like in the same way that when the early Justin Timberlake albums came out if you happen to find yourself at a day party.
2:52:18That's funny. You do look like you can fit in with NSYNC or whatever. Thank you. Nice to see you. Lush does look like a old NSYNC man. Yo, my girl seen the one dude. The fool Joey. My girl saw him at the pediatrician the other day. Joey Fatone's at the pediatrician? But it's crazy because my kid loves NSYNC and she calls them the bye-bye guys because they're saying bye-bye-bye. and uh and my my kid watches the video and they're all pretty like young and handsome and like in her mind that's who they are and then she meets him in the pediatrician's office and he's old as hell now you know who that and it was like very weird for her to like accept that this is the same as the guy that she watches in the video that being said he is a homosexual taking very good care of himself so he still looks pretty decent apparently so i don't got the pink nails or what i don't know not at this time i'll say this that if you find yourself at a day party outside you feel me or on a on a boat or something fly and you with a bunch of females and you on one that justin bieber album going crazy bro i ain't gonna lie that's all right i i'm not normally somebody throughout my life who's really cared about someone having a great singing voice but to me as a total nincompoop when it comes to r &b music or singing ass music i just feel like his voice is so angelic he sounds like a fucking angel it carries the whole project the production as well is so lush and warm and i hate to use the word that is your name no but it is like every like every track just sounds so designer.
2:54:05These beats are just crazy. And then his voice is nuts. Yo, and then Sexy Red pulled up. She got a little thought lullaby in the middle of the project. I was feeling it. Gunna. I didn't make it to that. Gunna never sounded better. I'm seeing the vision. I think Gunna could be up there with Justin Bieber. I was going nuts, bro. I love it. That's all I'm saying. I love it. I'm R &B Thug though, for real, bro. Huh? I'm R &B Thug. Oh yeah, you'll enjoy this album. But no, no, I skipped through a couple songs, but he hold a good note. Like, you know what I'm saying? Hell yeah, bro. Like. One of my favorite albums I've heard in a long time.
2:54:42That boy can sing. So I got to check the name. Well, we'll swap. We'll swap. We'll swap. Justin Bieber out for a couple black people. In the past, like even when I was in the feds, man, it was like two songs I had on there. I can't remember the names. Those motherfuckers used to be banging though. So I fucked with certain. Look, I had like a song, like two songs by him. songs by Zayn Malik. So I fuck with B. You know what I'm saying? A few of his shit. I don't want to get on no race war shit, but who's the black R &B singer that's nicer than Justin Bieber? You tell me, because I don't know. What, to my same generation?
2:55:16Nicer than Justin Bieber. Same generation? And it gotta be a male? I'm just, I mean, I'm sorry. Hold on. Chris Brown. Chris, yeah. Mario. See, I'm gonna be real. I ain't listening to enough Chris Brown in my life. Chris Brown and Mario. Chris Brown for sure. You seen that little versus Mario got a cold voice. Y 'all laughing at my Mario. No, I'm laughing at Laura texting me. Joey Fatone is not gay. Lance from N.C. is the gay one. I thought every last one of them was gay. My bad. I got the story wrong. They saying Usher. Awesome race. Yeah, they say Usher got that Hermes. Yeah, Usher another lane.
2:55:54I mean, Usher way before his time. We kind of talking about like close. I got to spend some time with Usher's catalog because I don't know. I'm Bieber again. No, no, no. Are you referring to your overall catalog or voice? I'm a fucking complete nerd. I know nothing when it comes to R &B. Man, what's that was fucking him over? And I hate that I got to say his name because he was caught up in some shit, but Kale's. Bees ain't fucking with Kale's, man. No, no, no. Musically? Bees ain't fucking with Kale's, man. R. Kelly? R. Kelly was hard. Can't nobody Like the Pound Piper Bro They took that from us You hold your body Like a snake ma Are you fucking serious That's one of the hardest songs Man you know The 40s Of the R.
2:56:36Kelly song Are you fucking serious Everybody Everybody You gotta sit Kidding That shit Don't slap Ain't nobody Don't get no pussy To move your body Like a snake What are you bitches Bitches Bursing it down I was in Oakland When that came out I swear to god You couldn't even See a bitch's face I smacked Multiple chicks Can no R &B artist do a versus against R. Kelly and win? Probably not. You have to be Al Green. You have to be like Al Green. You're like fucking Marvin Gaye. Michael Jackson has to come back. Yeah, you have to be Michael Jackson. Like R. Kelly's catalog is amazing. All I'm saying is the same way that I became a Taylor Swift fan and that led to me becoming a fan of all these other girl pop singers.
2:57:20Maybe now Justin Bieber will be the bridge where I become a hardcore Usher fan or a hardcore whoever. Is this bitch Tania really hitting me up three hours after we started? You got it. No, hell no. Do not fall out. No, that's cool. It's too late. She's like, I'm going to be there by 7.45. She heard move your body like a snake. That's so nice. Something fell in. She's saying that she's going to show up four hours after we started. That sounds suspicions. I see the vision with Tania, but she got to get her shit together. I should have hit her up probably not just today but every time I ever had anything to do with her she'd been like three hours late that's a specific personality trait she'd make a good podcast to see if she got a babysitter I said that.
2:58:10Multiple babysitters, to be fair. Mikey? No, just really one? Just really one for the youngest one? Yeah, Mikey. Bro, that kid is like three months old. It's going to be like a random person to be the babysitter. It's like a baby baby. He already got a rolly chain. He already got a rolly chain. That's LA for you. You got a rolly chain at birth now. He really did. Go out a rolly chain. Go out a rolly chain at birth. Fresh out the slousy with it. red. No cap, fool. I've seen that in there. The slossy, the slossy. Yo, speaking of, I just want to give one more shout out to our people over at Everything420.
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2:59:26The Babe said his project way harder than Clips. Yo, he's standing on business with that. He's standing on business with that. Busyness. Business. The cold part is, so he didn't, like a lot of people were like making the comparisons before he really did. And people were taking statements that other people made, like Kerwin Frost, you feel me? And they took his statement. How do you compare rapping to R &B? Oh, it just hit me. That's a good question. They all want to be number one. No, no, no, no, no. Dropping the same week as Bieber is crazy. Justin Bieber from Canada, he probably riding with Drake.
2:59:59You know, Drake don't deal with them, you know what I'm saying, them clip dudes. Yeah, yeah. So that's, oh. They have been cool historically. It goes back. And that goes back to the Clips beefing with Lil Wayne. He was beefing with Lil Wayne before he was even beefing with Drake. The Clips was. Sure. So that should go back to even. No, I'm talking about Justin Bieber. No, no, no. I hear you. So you're saying that this is a Kendrick and Drake proxy war because also Kendrick is on the Clips album. I think that's definitely. And Pusha T is the other guy who has defeated Drake in a battle. And it came to real.
3:00:30He's going to do more numbers than Clips on a project. So all he got to do is shit on him like, yeah, you know what I'm saying? He made up for a little bit with Drake. You know what I'm saying? But they're in their 50s. It's a W for Kennedy. They're not actually, right? Yeah, they are. Pusha T is 50? Yes. Hell yeah. Shut the fuck up. Really? Yes, bro. They're in their 50s, bro. He seems young as holding it easy up there with JNN. I think he's 50, bro. 48. Okay. So Malice is 50. You'll need to unlock your iPhone. So Malice is 50 and he's 48. Malice. 48? Yeah. if they call me 50 and i was 52 they both honestly their average age is 50 a black don't crack b if you stay in relatively good shape you stay lean you could be 50 and people won't even necessarily know that says a lot i think getting fat is the number one thing that makes you look old yeah they for sure have like taken relatively definitely age my favorite like underlying narrative on the album though is just that malice basically is here for the money he just came back to sort of serve y 'all and show you how fucking tight he is which he is he's a fucking badass i mean this is the best he's wrapped since lord willing there's a level of like composition to their rapping that is just missing in the rap game these days that that being said i don't know if i'm gonna phrase this the way that i want it to be but it it's almost like i feel like rap has gotten a little bit more light-hearted or a little bit more like intentionally funny and it's sometimes feels like the album is a little like over serious well no it's like like push a t raps like he's like got a flashlight in front of his face telling ghost stories like really that's what he sounds like but i love it but it's just i i feel like it ain't witty enough people who make that kind of music these days tend to be a little bit more like self-aware of the fact that they're talking extremely aggressively into a microphone in a studio and putting it out over beats you know and it's like i just feel like there's like a little bit of like a tone that is almost missing they're talking to the hype beast they're talking to the people like her and press and they're talking to the people that have that grown-ass men with cause sculptures that shop at union essentially that is who they are like talking to and boy are they talking that shit thank you so much for talking it like here's the here's the biggest uh my favorite pusher t trope is when he makes people like how he equates his wealth as being so much above other people and he talks about how like they're fake frotting and they don't really have well he'll say shit like uh the serial number don't match the gift boxes you feel me like i love when he does shit like that you feel me like like that's like he talks that rich shit makes it sound cool they're not leaning on the cocaine tropes as much as they have in the past but they're still doing it enough to satisfy their core fan base what was that that pov song amazing i didn't need any of the pharrell hooks i didn't need the pharrell hooks at all it sounds antiquated as fuck but the same like like i will say his choice of samples i was like gonna i was expecting it to be ass beats because the first one that leaked i was like really disappointed it sounded like derivative over cinematic kanye production circa 2016 so i was like oh this is not going to be it but once i realized oh no pharrell digging in the crates getting really dope obscure samples and making them sound kind of palatable that that was i was like yes but i agree when he puts in his little four bar like i just love how they're being positioned like you got to give it to rock nation that they are positioning them as like like top tier elite like you could imagine a lot of labels just not being able to pull this together in the way that they did and the fact that they have fucking kendrick tyler naz as like the features it just says a lot i actually really thought like there would be a jay feature well the kendrick and the tyler feature are both like kind of to satisfy again the core fans because this is who we need to hear to talk about this subject they both done songs with him at grip at times oh sorry that was king pill trying to call but i don't know why i didn't hung up as soon as i picked up he's already got records but like no man he said open the door i've been open the door yeah i doubt it but i've been said that the nostalgia song is my favorite kendrick verse ever that's like his previous collab would push it to you so he and i'm not gonna lie the kendrick verse is hard definitely a lot of over whipping it's not even the best verse on that album by any means.
3:05:07Like, my bad. I'm using the wrong term. You feel me? The J-Main term. You feel me when he was saying over what you feel me? Like, doing like people were putting extras on and saying it was better than it really was. I think it's a dope feature, but it's not even my favorite on the album. Is it for really outside?
3:05:30He said, I'm here. Open the door. I'm here. I don't see it all Dottie said he's looking at the cameras He don't see them No okay man come on man Hey look bro Come on pill bro There's more than a few people here That's probably not a good idea I'm just saying like bro Hey no no no We know it's a troll with that right But my thing is why people Want to make If you got smoke with somebody Why no jumper got to be the mean point no no no I ain't talking about him I know he's a troll you got somebody that keeps calling me scary you don't want to sit down with me all this weird shit why no jumper though yeah no this is not this is a place of business don't everybody call this the federal business so I mean the building so if this is the fed building why here you know what I'm saying the thing about him is that he doesn't seem like he's really like making the most coherent decisions about what he's doing with his time or his life so it's kind of hard to like map some appeal right yeah like logic onto his behavior because it just feels like he's kind of all over the place and you talked to his manager about stephan belafonte's like recently like what's the latest with him and like where do they stand not in a bit but uh i did see that stephan belafonte was collab post or collabed on the post about king pill signing to cam capone news so i do believe he's still a factor in this but we haven't really communicated about it okay so uh what about jack boys any thoughts on that i mean like the so rough listen is pretty much what i boy right huh kodak uh homeboy no so that's a different there's a dude called jack boy but that's not him so this is a a travis scott like collab project for his for cactus jack basically the first time he's acknowledged so fago's existence yeah almost ever that's what i was gonna say so so i mean so my favorite thing that i heard from that album is don toliver on there because i actually for some reason i fuck with don toliver i feel like i don't know what it is his voice or some shit but his music kind of good like i i slept don toliver more than travis scott maybe that's just maybe i'm just an odd outlier but i just like his shit but uh as far as him having so fagel and sheck west it was like holy 2018 batman like more of these artists you were supposed to break seven years ago to me i don't know just as like a non-travis fan it just felt like a big puddle of gobbledygook like nothing that i feel like listening to ever again like just nothing just it was like everything i just don't really care about with modern rap well um push the t didn't he make the statement like i don't fuck with rappers that don't rap now clearly like i don't necessarily agree with that statement but i get what he's saying like you know i mean like there's a there's a lot of people making hip-hop music and they're not actually there's no rapping involved in what they do i'll say the cactus his Jack label you could just in his entirety is kind of in that category yeah or at least 98 percent of their output regardless they make cool music they make music that's like that's fun but I think to me I haven't heard like a Travis Scott ad-lib or um sound or something that he was bringing new to the table that like innovated in a while like it's lit is stale at this point all that shit You know what I mean?
3:09:08Like it just don't land the same. Yeah. I just don't find it intriguing or interesting or deep at all. And I've just kind of been waiting for everybody else to agree with me. And it doesn't seem like it's ever going to happen. Everybody thinks Travis is the bee's knees. I'm not like a hater. It's just not for me personally. I guess it's just showing my age that the third best clips album of all time is like significantly more entertaining than this. I just felt like the original Jack boys felt a lot more purposeful that there was a lot more of a reason for it to exist. How long is Jack with a real?
3:09:43Shit. That last project was what? 27, 28. Yeah. Cause it was right before pop smoke got killed. Yeah. It was 2019. And like, like I said, like the artists that I expected to have more of a rollout from now, Granted, they had not only the pandemic, but the whole horrible Astroworld tragedy happened that kind of probably threw off some of their plans and stuff. But like a lot of the artists I was expecting to see rolled out back then are now kind of getting shy. It makes it seem like the project just kind of slapped together. Yeah, I really wasn't going for it. That's a name for me, Church. Yeah, I don't know.
3:10:23Justin Bieber or Clips, if you had to be stuck on a desert island right now? I feel like Justin Bieber I do like the Clips album but the Justin Bieber album to me it unlocked emotions in me I think that the Justin Bieber got probably like the hardest album of the summer I ain't gonna lie now the nerd in me which is like 98 % of my body wants to say the Clips but the 2 % that's had sex with a girl says Justin Bieber and that says it a lot louder so we're going with Biebs on this one it's definitely a project I could see myself having sex to they're both really fucking good albums though no just Bieber though playing the Biebs man hold on having sex to push a t-shirt you're not trying to fuck to ghost stories you better not be having no sex anymore why is he yelling at me yo so one thing I wanted to bring up and talk about because obviously this is the messiest podcast on the internet Munchy You're a hot commodity out there.
3:11:25If people fuck with you, they're getting cut off. King Pill fell out with B. Brazy over Munchie B. B. Brazy basically saying anyone who has anything to do with Munchie B is not cool by him. How do you feel to have this much power? I like Pill's response. Yeah, he did have a good response. He's basically like, I fuck with Munchie. I've been hearing about Munch's name since back in the day I know you got respect so if you guys have a problem then that's cool but they don't got nothing to do with me which is basically what I would say as well alright sounds pretty logical I don't know why that young gentleman mad in here man but shit we're part to him I'm gonna leave here get some pussy you know what I'm saying remain positive you know what I mean why Braves hate you so much I don't know man I came at his gay celly and shit and after that it was up like literally gay?
3:12:26I think the nigga gay damn I I keep hearing these stories nigga he keep getting his ass kicked and rolled up out of prisons and shit there ain't gonna be no more prison for you to go to in a minute so you over here praying protector for this gay ass nigga I mean but he can't be mad at everybody bro like ain't nobody gonna get this internet shit to people some people don't got a smartphone they still gotta a flip phone. They ain't worried about what's going on on the internet, what's going on with Baby Braze and Munchie B on some podcast shit. Like, no, the homies from Athens just came up here the other day.
3:13:00Like, they don't care about what this nigga talking about. They just talking about what they talking about. Promoting their homie book and, you know what I'm saying, niggas, the world bigger than a podcast or some internet shit. Let niggas be miserable, I guess. It sometimes feels like this shit is the whole world when you get a million messages or this or that and it might feel like it's a lot bigger than it is, right? Nah, because it's just YouTube is the new TV and everybody watching it. And then, you know, some niggas ain't used to getting attention, so they feeding into everything that's going on, the chat and all that, and they care what everybody thinks.
3:13:36Shit, I ain't tripping. I mean, the thing is that, like, when you're on the outside, you have to have perspective about the fact that not everybody knows everything about rap music or street shit or internet gangster shit or whatever. but when you're locked up like him what the fuck do you have besides just talking about gang shit and sneaking your phone around so you can watch videos about gang shit and clubhouse clips about people beating with each other and all that shit bro to be on a level 4 prison bro 180 design and go live for 2 hours on YouTube is crazy I don't know that's just unheard of I mean hey he made history and he did it repeatedly repeatedly repeatedly that shit suspected me it's not like a nigga gotta deal with the wording or something cause I mean I don't know man in the past there's been people that have done content from prison over the phone bro no no no listen or like footage too and then that shit gets taken down like it's been like that shit would always get taken down so I don't that shit definitely is new to me seeing and it's not just with podcasters but rappers There's rappers doing entire albums, several albums, back to back to back, shooting entire music videos.
3:14:53I guess it's a new era when it comes to that shit. Didn't they trip on Tory Lanez after he dropped his project? They did. Come on, bro. I had a phone call. I recorded a phone call with Tiny Mushy, and they ran up in his cell. He ain't even on. You can't even see his face. I said, I'm not understanding. I'm very perplexed. I think that certain prisons are crazy hardcore about it, and certain ones are just sort of lax. Yeah. You know? that's what it seems like anyway maybe you got a favor with God you know yeah but uh yo one thing I definitely wanted to talk about was the fact that our boy Troy Ave who always just stays getting into some shit oh y 'all already oh this fool Troy Ave Troy Ave this motherfucker Troy Ave just casually catching up bodies is Troy Ave a GTA character at this point like literally put the screen up so they can see this uh if you haven't seen this i don't think there's any audio but this is basically like troy ab is getting out on this side of the car his homie's getting out on this side that's uh
3:15:58so this dude watch watch him right here and then troy ab is walking right here and right behind him sneaks a dude wearing all black with a gun running up on him trying to rob him Troy Av takes cover for a second pulls his gun out catches his ass down catches a legal body protects his homie fucking crazy Troy Av the legend is there a rapper that's been in more like known shootouts than Troy Av I don't know do that kind of like make the snake shit look a little better shit The thing is is that Troyev is a felon. And a felon in possession of a firearm typically I would think doesn't work out well for you.
3:16:50What's that again? I said that was San Diego. It's California. You ain't standing your ground out here. This ain't the self. I think that's a legal body for sure. Because the other guy had a gun. It's not like he was running away. He's not going to get no time for that, but they're going to give him some time for it. He might get like a little bush. I get man slaughtered. Just for the gun, though, I think they'll probably get him, right? But, I mean, at the same time, Trev is putting it out there. So, I feel like he either feels like him putting it out there can't make it any worse, or he feels like he's gotten away with it.
3:17:21Because he waited like a week to put that out. No, he put it out there because they got it anyway. Lawyer, like, for sure, man, it's good. Like, ain't too much they can do. You do get some time. Because, for sure, he got a gun. He tried to come. Like, all it is, you know, you're a fellow in possession of a firearm. Right. You get that. That's about, like, I know out here in California, back when I was going, I had one. It was eight months, you know what I'm saying? But they doubled me up and gave me 16 months for it. You know what I'm saying? And then shit, like, what, like, the lowest on the, on the, on the.
3:17:56Yeah, the gun ain't even important. What's that? When you kill somebody, like, the self-defense, they give you the. Monetary manslaughter. A manslaughter like two years, if that. So, yeah, he going to be straight. Card a little three-piece, if that. He go to a little PCR, do that, come back. This dude, Troy Ave, is really out here getting in multiple shootouts. He ain't looking for trouble, though. No. He fighting him, I guess, because he got the job done. That dude got the job. For sure, takes his ass down. Dude should have just fired his weapon. His reaction time is crazy quick, too. It seemed like they were chilling.
3:18:33Like, you know. Hey, what if this is a play-doh? Yes, what is it? But the guy's dead, no? What if this is on any news? That's a good point. I haven't looked into it so far. Is this a skit? No, no, no. I need a reputable, you know what that shit called. Source. Reputable source. Yeah. What's that news that was out there in San Diego? This shit ain't come up on fire. Where's Ron Burgundy when you need him? No, this ain't. Was he a crisis actor like Sedy Vass or what? The crisis actor. See, I don't know if this guy died or not. Okay, so first of all, no trip to the Lyd store. It says shot, not dead.
3:19:17Okay, TMZ posted it. And the other guy is a celebrity chef named Jeff Cole. The shootout went down in San Diego. Home security, blah, blah, blah.
3:19:35and it doesn't TMZB they really they'll be like spreading propaganda but I want to hear from a news source some kind of like a local you know what I'm saying TMZ said it's unclear from the video if any of Troy's shots he squeezed off at least two rounds hit the suspect so he probably failed he looked like he chased him down oh it happened back in mid June interesting so this is this has been a while hey june what's this july what i mean hey look bro i think that might be a play bro and he got doesn't he have something to do with uh like the culinary world because he had this thing called chef fest right didn't that have something to do with i think it was after chef fest okay so like one of the i don't know if he would have had a bunch of money on him or anything that might be a play and he friends with the dude that's king of the place.
3:20:29You know what I'm saying? So I don't know. There's no real, there's no real actual evidence that there is like, like there's no incident report and nobody got like, that we've seen. We ain't getting a booking picture or nothing. So I don't know. To me, the video looked hella convincing. The video for sure looks convincing. Man, he's trying to wipe away that snake shit, bro. No, for real. Hey, because why there's no news source, bro? Even if he did miss him, Rapper Troy Ave. You know what I'm saying? Gets in shootout. That's a juicy item for the news. I mean, maybe it was reported, but they just didn't pick up on the fact that it was a famous person involved in it.
3:21:10But, I mean. Shit. If the police got involved, they would have. Bro, like when somebody famous go to jail, hit the station, they'd be calling the station trying to get information. Academics. They got in the building, man. Yo, what up? What's going on? You been on Paul Pierce's boat lately? Man, I don't get on other man's boat, bro. Like, listen, I come with a bag. I don't need no other nigga to have the bag. You feel me? Great answer. Listen, I ain't worked for 10 years to get on another man's boat. I come with the bitches. Just me. I'm sorry. If anybody does that, it's okay. Yo, no, I ain't going to lie because I was about to take a shot because I'm about to hit the streets again.
3:21:47I'm still in Turks. I was watching the show. I see all y 'all. Y 'all stop playing with Troy Ave, man. I don't know what y 'all be on the West Coast doing, but not everybody's doing plays. That Troy Ave shit real? The Top 5 shit is real? Only the West Coast niggas is doing shit where they violate niggas or say whatever and see them and take shots. But the dude that do the plays is your best friend. What are you talking about? Brother, I'm just telling all y 'all it's only y 'all niggas Whack 100 is not the West Coast, bro. No, no, no. Hear what I'm saying. It's only West Coast niggas that's doing shit that's violating niggas.
3:22:26Loose Cannon came from Wack 100. I don't care about Loose Cannon and I'm not talking about Wack. Those who aren't paid. It's only West Coast people who is acting like they're super thugged out. Yo, when this nigga can't go here, this nigga can't go there. And when they see him, they taking shots in the club. I'm telling you this now. Okay? I just want to let y 'all know, I love the West, but I'm not looking too good right now Troy Ive he's from New York Is there any info that we can see As far as this Troy Ive incident Troy Ive is from New York That's not no play I seen your shot to my man Trap Lord But I hit everybody about it I FaceTimed him in the hospital Nobody's doing plays except Y 'all West Coast dudes is doing WWE Nobody else is doing that I'm sorry He was in San Diego He was in WWE Nah, I mean, but she, I mean, the people, what do you got to go off his niggas?
3:23:23You feel like T-Rell made the whole West Coast look bad? I'm not saying, no, T-Rell's a cool dude. I saw him in a club, he was parched, man. We took a shot and I seen him in a club for good energy. All I'm saying, whatever y 'all got going on over the West, don't apply it to nowhere else. Nobody else is doing plays. Y 'all are doing the plays. Hey, there will be plays when everybody come out here and die, though. 35 fades that niggas was supposed to catch. Niggas was supposed to do this. DPs, whatever. Man, let's do this. Hey, Act, you talking about podcasters, bro. But it's only podcasters talking.
3:24:05You're right. You can't go off podcasters, though. And out of 20 podcasters, maybe three of them or four of them real gay members. Well, I'm just telling you that the LA podcasters, they're running the plays. I don't see East Coast niggas running plays. Hold on, hold on, hold on. How it go from West Coast to LA? Name five LA niggas that you know that's running plays in the podcast world. Name three niggas. Name three niggas from LA, from South Central LA in the podcast world that's running plays. Well, listen, put it like this. I tune into No Jump, is the biggest media outlet on the West and every time I think I see something real, it's a play.
3:24:48I'm like the fans. I'm like, oh, this shit real. Who's even really faking shit though? That's what I'm trying to hear. What the fuck is a play? Wag me faking shit. That's what I said. Let me reverse it on y 'all. Let's not say who's faking shit. Who's keeping it real? Who ain't keeping it real? I mean, put a name on it. Who ain't keeping it real? shit listen yeah listen when people think of the west we think about gangbangers niggas who won't stand on business it just don't look the same i'm gonna be honest it just don't look the same but we love yo we love the west coast but you know what we realized the west coast like we're like wwe y 'all like ecw we're just we're just doing different type put stunts.
3:25:36It's all good. But the podcasters from out here, there's multiple of them that are now in the fades and all that. Listen, when you listen to East Coast podcasters, listen to me, Joe Budden. Listen to anybody from the East Coast. We're not setting up and talking about fades and let's get down all day. I hear that all day on the West Coast and I've never seen a fade get caught. There's fades going down. Somebody tell me. Me versus all my East Coast fans. Barry Gordian, tell him. Yeah, put it like this, right? Me and Rory and Milly Moore, right? Y 'all not seen... If y 'all seen me and Rory and Milly Moore and them niggas is in my section taking a shot, it's bad vibes.
3:26:22Y 'all can say whatever. Them niggas showed up to my crib, I'm not on it. I'm not playing no type of games. I'm not trying to do no funny shit. But what I'm saying is that when I'm watching... I was watching a lot of the LA podcast and shit, thinking it was real niggas that just had a mic in front of them. Now I'm realizing everybody is Booker T. We're all just doing the same shit. Y 'all just talking gang language. Because of Kendrick, Akwon smoked with the whole West Coast and he's going to denigrate our gang culture and label us softs. He's talking about T-Rail. But look, yeah, that's what he's talking about.
3:27:00T-Rail. That's the only person I don't watch LA podcast shit. I'm hearing about too many fades and none caught. But this is what you don't understand, right? So you trying to, a lot of these dudes are not even podcasters. A lot of these dudes do a lot of other shit and just wind up on podcast shows and then start trying to run with shit. And y 'all starting to call these dude podcasters. like in real life you gotta understand like how many niggas is meeting up with they ops and catching the fucking fade bro oh no no yo by the way great point but this is what you this is what and by the way again no jump for the biggest on the west coast they I'm a fan I'll watch listen I don't watch too many platforms Adam's my man's he's a peer of mine I watch his I watch his platform I watch this thinking that this is real.
3:28:01I'm like, oh, okay, niggas is going to meet up for some fades. The fades going to get caught. I'm realizing everybody's just doing WWE. Yo, listen. I think I'm Vince McMahon, and I think my nigga Adam is Paul Heyman, and everybody else is in the circus. It's true. Nobody's doing nothing. We're just chilling. And by the way, I got no problem with nobody doing that. But I've got to let the audience know because the audience be thinking niggas is standing on business and niggas is squabbling. That's not true. Do you notice the Gamebanger podcast that's not podcasters is not throwing shots at people?
3:28:45Yeah, that's what I'm saying for sure. You know some niggas ain't trying to act tough, right? No, no, no, of course. And those are, hold on, that's why those are the people I like. And even when y 'all mention WAC, I've never heard Wax said yo if a nigga come here y 'all can tell me I'm wrong if a nigga come here I'm gonna do this to him and the nigga came there and Wax was like yo I'm not gonna nah I'm just chill today yo just tell me I ain't about to turn this into no bashing thing I ain't about to do that I heard people yo this nigga can't come here this nigga can't come there Wax ain't never said nigga I heard Wax specifically say I'm not gonna say niggas can't come to the West Coast because I do not control the whole West Coast.
3:29:31That's smart. That's somebody who's thinking logically you can't control the whole coast. So now I'm saying, hey, Wack is, I think he's transitioned. He's a street nigga, but he has a business sense. I be listening to like a lot of niggas who's like, yo, I'm waiting for the fades. I haven't seen a fade. That's why I'm losing faith. Well, Top 5 just said, so it's okay to come to Canada. and they had a successful show. He said he was going to Swiss cheese the whip. Right. So what happened there? Because you're giving everybody their credentials, but the West Coast, but Top 5, this shotter, said TDE can't come, and they came, and they had a big show out, had people chatting out like us.
3:30:15Well, what about that? But Ak is talking about fig immunity. He's saying that they don't fight. No, he said it's less, bro. They see people they don't get along with. No, no, no. He didn't have to say fig immunity then. Anybody who is podcasting and talking about, because I listen, yo, let me tell you this. When I listen to y 'all, like respectfully, and trust me, it's with all due respect, I'm not trying to disrespect y 'all. I don't even know, like, I learned about y 'all gang politics from y 'all. I'm like, oh, his gang doesn't get along with his gang. Because y 'all are talking about this on podcast, I've always thought about gangs as this some serious shit.
3:30:50These days, I be looking at this like, no, this is all a bunch of jokes. It's like, wait, so none of these niggas is ever meeting up? They're just talking about it? Yo, it's a fire episode on No Jumper? Oh, come on, man. Like, come on. We got to get better. We got to get better. We got to get better. So what was T-Rail supposed to do, though? I was saying he should have just ignored you. He should have stayed on his side of the club. Nah, you know, shout out to T-Rail, man. You know, I see my man in the club. Well, he'd see me before I seen him. Right. You know, came over. I was like, yo, wait, is that who I think it is?
3:31:27Man, let him into my section. Please, let him in. I see him. He's with his girl. They're excited. I am excited. You know why? Because I just bought 10 bottles. I'm having a great time. My boy look a little parched. Yo, give my boy a shot. You know what I mean? I swear, I swear. Today, my assistant, my assistant. Oh, he was saying he's on the boat. T-Row. T-Row went over to the section in the club. Yo, this is the whole point. He said he left the little parts. When PewDiePie told him I got impressed, you know who actually impressed me? My assistant today said, yo, Ak, because she wasn't here, you know what they said about you?
3:32:05Yo, so she's trying to tell me what T-Rose's wife and T-Rose said about me, and I say, yo, I'm going to be honest with you, I never listened to it. I knew at the end of the day they wanted some attention. Brother, I don't care if they're gangbanging or whatever. They're doing content. We see each other. All they want is a little bit of Don Julio. That's it. That's crazy. Yo, come on. Yo, Adam, come on. No, he was thirsty for sure. I mean, he didn't have his own section. He was there on Paul Pierce's dime. Adam, we took a shot. Everything was cool. I seen him the next day. And I ain't going to lie to you.
3:32:48Because the next day, you know, I'm in ego mode. so i told him i said i'm not going to know because like we're in church i'm still in church right i'm gonna go out right now like i'm still um so like there's not that many places to go so it's not you can't avoid people here like you're gonna go see them 100 promise right so on sundays everybody goes to noah's ark i see t-relle on on saturday good obviously i popped out i got big section i got the chicks some whatever whatever we doing it whatever the next thing we're going to know is our i tell them if i can't get the best boat on the island i don't want to go they give me a price i said that's pink let's do it we go there and then they're parking the boats by the way ironically the boat t-relle is on is actually owned by the people who gave me the boat or not gave me the boat but i bought the boat from listen i had to get the best i told him if you can't give me the best i don't want it they gave me the best so i'm like all right bet at least i pull up i see t-rel they're doing family pictures like a little vlog i'm like this is great i love family time i want to eventually do a family vlog adam you gotta get on the family vlog shit bro So I'm there.
3:34:11I'm like, I bet. I'm like, well, you know, I'm a pocket watcher. I'm sorry. So one of my negative traits, if you want to call it that, I'm like, I know I got the biggest vote, but I know how much I paid because that shit came off my Amex. That's a fact. So I'm like, wait, you're T-Rell rolling like this? I see him. He's T-Rell. I shout him out. He shout me out. By the way, there's no negative energy. We're not beefing. Right. All of a sudden, I'm like, oh, T-Rell getting some money. Next thing I see, Paul Pierce walk. I'm like, oh, hold on. So now I got to make the decision. Is T-Rell on Paul Pierce's boat or is Paul Pierce on T-Rell's boat?
3:34:53You make the decision, Adam. I don't know. I don't know. You feel me? Nah, for sure. Yo, I pulled up with nine girls. I'm the only nigga with my security. There's no other extra mans. We're not doing split-wise like, yo, you got 300 for this. No, I got it all. There's a bunch of niggas over there. So before Paul Pierce came, I'm like, why did T-Roll come to my section alone when I seen him, he's now on his boat with bare mans. There's bare mans on this. I'm like, there's mad people on this show. Bare mans. Bare mans is crazy. No, it's not only men. It's women too. I feel you. When Paul Pierce pops out, I said, it made sense.
3:35:42I was Paul Pierce and shit. Nah, thanks. It make sense? Yo, I was thinking, you know, I went to Turks a couple months ago. I should have hit up Larry Bird and had him pay for the trip. Yo, by the way, I'm not even shaming him for nothing. Because in reality, if you have a rich friend, let your rich friends. I need rich friends. For sure. By the way, everybody keeps saying, yo, you're on Twitter. like little goofies on Twitter like yo why you bring out eight bitches I don't have no rich friends that could pay 45 ,000 for a jet one way and then the other way and then 40 ,000 for the motherfucking villa so it's my vacation I'm not bringing a bunch of men for no reason I'm sorry but if somebody offered me a free vacation where I don't gotta pay 100 ,000 and I could flex like I did I would do it nah but see that's the difference between me and you and T-Rail is that while me and you have been building our arsenal of content and honing our skills him and his girl are basically just professional dick riders like he came into the game meat riding Tyga and then with her she came into the game meat riding Kim what's her name fucking Kylie Jenner and now he's meat riding Paul Pierce some people that's just their talent doing tricks on him I don't care who you came in with we all in the same place we have the same fun the one thing I'll say is this right I like the interaction we had and I told you I sent it to you I said listen you know for me because I really used to fuck with them guys I just felt like I mean you went to their live show that's not something I've seen you do for almost anybody else I felt like they took this whole like Kendrick angle and also maybe it was incorrect but I thought I'm like I know the conversation I had with Dave Free I'm like if Dave Free or Anthony Salette said anything else to them that was not what I never had to tell anybody about that running when I'm talking about my experiences is because I'm going to tell the truth.
3:38:02I'm going to tell the good, bad, and ugly. Here's the other thing too. You know why even because some people send me some posts? I'm not the gangster. Here's the thing. If I run into D-Row, I never said I'm about to slap him. I never said he can't come nowhere around me. Did they say that? I don't know. I didn't watch what they said, but did they say it? Some people told me they said that. Yo, if I come to Cali, Wack told me that. It's like, yo, they were saying that you can't come to certain places. I fuck with you. you could come and I'm like, no, they didn't. There's no way T-Rail was trying to ban me from a coast.
3:38:35So now when he sees me in turrets, he's like, all right, you know, well, what happens now, you know? Take a shot. What happens? Let's take a shot. Shot a clock. So, so, so, academics, so, so 10 balls tonight. So, so T-Rail come up, so T-Rail come up and he hits you, then what happens? then a security jump on him. What if he had tried to put hands on you? Security got to kill him right away. See, act on bullshit. Look, he laughing. Yo, put it like this. No, no. You know the greatest space I've created? I'm academics. Put it like this. Even if something happened to me, it's supposed to happen. But I move...
3:39:28Yo, listen. yeah, I heard what I said. I only brought business with me, but I brought security. I flew on my security. My security down said, we're going right now. So again, I knew I was good. I'm not, I don't play by my safety type shit like that. We were good. By the way, I've never threatened anything versus nobody. Actually, only one person, Mark Lamont Hill, because he has said, I forgot what he was, and I said, if I see him, I'm going to spit in your face. That's it. But I don't threaten nothing against anybody. All right, bro. You said the niggas to Nib, Draco, Biggie Smalls, and Pac. Yeah, Tupac.
3:40:06I don't talk to shit. Dinner party. That's a threat. No, no, no. Hold on. Oh, he said if he was touched. He said if he was touched. If they touched him. Yeah, yeah. He said if he was touched. That's still a degree of a threat. So that was Abso saying if he see me, he going to slap me. Brother. Brother. Brother. Hold on. the point i'm trying to make to y 'all and i'm gonna like again y 'all don't address this point whatever narrative you have about act act is gonna go where he wants to go oh act won't go to no td concert they don't fuck with him i flew to detroit i went there so i don't care if we had an aggressive conversation i went there there's nobody coming to me oh yo if i ever see this thing i'm coming wherever I want to go.
3:40:57I'm in Turks. I don't care who's here. Nigga, we could be in the same club, same section, boat next to each other, same room. I don't have to do nothing. You have to show me that what, and this is what I said about y 'all LA niggas, stop talking the crazy shit if you're not crashing out. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. So you expect, since somebody dislike you, they supposed to, y 'all know what crash out mean, right? Maybe one nigga that crashed out. No, no, no, no. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. Put it like this. I'm going to be in a room with y 'all at some point.
3:41:30Ain't nobody in this room saying you. I'm saying, but when you say crash out, that means just say fuck it and just throw it all the way and go to jail, right? That's what crash out mean to me. I'm going to tell you what crash out means. I've never, ever said if I see any of y 'all, or obviously I don't have problems with y 'all, and I love Adam. Adam's, I mean, he's from Hampshire, but he's basically from West Coast. I don't say if I see somebody from the West, I've never said that. But when I'm hearing niggas on the West podcasting, they're like, yo, you can't come here. You can't do this. If I see you, when are we going to see the opposite side of you seeing somebody?
3:42:11Hey, could you please put an address on the... Yeah, yeah, because now we hear you talking about a specific person because you got two West Coast podcasters right here. And we... No, no, no, no, no, no. We fuck with you, too. I mean, I can't speak for much. This ain't heavy. I fuck with you, you know. I check your content out and shit. I don't even play them weird-ass games talking about where you can't come and can't go. Yeah, we don't never say that. Okay, and that's the only thing because at the end of the day... Yo, by the way, yo, Adam, you been killing it recently? You know, I'm back off vacation a couple days.
3:42:46I see the newsman going crazy. I'm coming back for all the views. Don't worry, I'm coming back for all the views, but it's all good. Let's do it. That's right. Here's the thing. Listen, and Jefe, like, you're probably one of the most balanced people when you're dealing with shit because you don't lead with the gangsterism. There's some people that's only time they could get some type of, like, they're fooling the audience with this perception that, oh we're like this super tough thing that if we ever got in situations with x y and z we're gonna do a b and c that's not true i see you talk more about principle and just where you're from and this and third is different so again i don't have problems with y 'all what i'm just trying to say is that there is a problem with la podcasters and again i'm saying it not including y 'all but the ones who are saying this nigga can't come here.
3:43:45Yo, if I sing this nigga, I'm doing this. No, you're not. Nobody else said that about him besides those guys, though. And I've seen AD and Pun talking about oh, the fans are so stupid they can't tell that this is all just content. It's like, since when? You guys ran down on Desto Dub and tried to fucking turn him into an example? Like, what are we talking about? No, but see, but see, but see that makes perfect. I wasn't going to do this through a rant. I was going to do this strategically. I said I was going to do this strategically. It makes perfect sense, bro. Man, I know it, though, because Desto does make itself available.
3:44:23They call me all the time. He ain't got security. They call me the worst thing known to man. And then all teeth in public, and we took a shot. Yo, dry the boat real quick. Your code actually. Yeah, he ain't never possible to do that. Yeah, that was crazy. Listen, listen. Again, I love y 'all. everybody from the west coast but just remember this if you ever say anybody and academic system i'll take it i'm the most bitch main nigga out here this nigga or anybody at when you call anybody out saying this nigga is blah blah blah blah he can't do blah blah if you see that nigga please don't take the don julio and just make sure you just stand on it so what was he supposed to do though I'll take the dollar what was he supposed to do the irony nobody gets is this this all started from me divulging to the internet as a real nigga I spent like$15 ,000 I went to Kendrick it's like 25 I went to Kendrick concert in Ford's Field, Detroit never been in Detroit in my life I brought all my security, I brought all my peoples we went there, we got a box seat they found out where I was at, they pulled up they wanted to have a conversation we had a respectful conversation I could have never said nothing about it I didn't know somebody was recording but I could say nothing about it but I'm a content creator I'm going to be honest with my audience I told them exactly what happened they came out and said nah son you got marked out and I'm like wait I spent my money to go to them I stood on everything I went to their concert, left untouched but I got marked out, they're like, nah, you didn't so now I kind of feel like I got into it and the only reason why I recorded T-Roll in that club is because if his version of me explaining that was I got marked out you know what he gonna say if he came in my session he took three shots, he was driving a boat, doing everything He gonna go back to his platform And say man I stood on business I saw that bitch ass nigga And I'm like Y 'all LA niggas can't be doing the 6ix9ine shit Nah that's why I was glad That you filmed it cause you know he would have painted Some bullshit version of it Everything you said but like I agree with But when you put the blanket over all of LA Based on one person That's where it's like no it's not LA You're talking about an individual Okay I'll take it off of all of LA podcasters but I'm gonna be honest with you I consume I watch my peers so I'm always mad at Adam because Adam will bring me into a rabbit hole of shit that I shouldn't even be watching but I watch my peers educational act I got me watching a nigga named Gummy today like pause I don't know who he is but Adam got me watching that so I'm watching this I don't know too much about LA game culture.
3:47:35I'm just watching this shit. They're telling me X, Y, and Z, blah, blah, blah. So I'm like kind of like indoctrinated through what y 'all have shown me about all this. And again, it's no disrespect to the entire, and maybe I should like, you know, try to make you more specific. And also by the way, I have no problem with T-Row. T-Row's a cool dude. I really have no problem with him. The only point I was just trying to say is that, yo, the biggest irony was that when I had a respectful conversation with Dave Free, they said I got marked out. When I went there, I pulled up on him. Okay, even if T-Roll wanted to say he pulled up on me, nigga, we had you driving a boat in my section, smiling from air to air.
3:48:21Did you mark out? apply the same concepts to yourself or stop talking to bullshit because at certain point, I don't care what audience you have. They have to start to be like, yo, um, this shit don't make no sense. Yeah. When you look at like the back on big Reddit right now, accountable, the back on big Reddit. I feel like you're seeing a sea change, even though they, they remove posts on there all the time. But a lot of the fans are just kind of realizing that T-Rail not really like that. But I mean, And the one thing that I've always noticed about his girl and him in particular is that they really just like worship fame.
3:48:57And that's why when they see you in the club, all that shit, they were talking all that. You're a predator. All that shit goes out the window. Cause to them, it's like, Oh shit, there's a famous person that we know we could go stand next to him in the club. Like that, that is their one and only God is fame. And by the way, I said, this is the last thing on it. Those people with me, Like, even today, I'm chilling. I'm like, oh, you're having fun. They brought it up. I'm chilling. I'm like, man, I was cool, whatever. I'm like, yo. Because, like, we was on the boat the day after. I was like, I'm filming him.
3:49:29He filming me. Like, I'm not taking a picture. But people were next to me like, yo, bro, like, you know how many people we had there? Like, the nigga was in our session. Why? Yo, why you ain't had us do something? I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not me. And I got to make it very clear. So the people was trying to catch lines. I was doing nothing to nobody. There it is. But this is what that type of energy brings in, right? Because put it like this. They're looking at me like, nah, call it. Let me show you the video. This is what they said about you. They was calling you A, B, C, and D. Did you hear what she said?
3:50:05Bro, so they was mad at me because I think when I described her, I don't know when I did. But they said, bro, you described her, Heather, you described her as his beautiful wife. she called she said nigga you're the biggest like i was like i never saw that so they were telling me but why didn't you why didn't you just tell us to do and i'm like bro that's not me and this is where i'm like yo let's just all keep it content let's not make it too personal even when i was like about to like get at them real quick and i did i had him for like maybe like half a stream or like maybe like maybe like 30 minutes.
3:50:43Brock could have disrespected his wife like crazy. But I was thinking I'm like, yo, I know, y 'all know AD, like AD jumped out of the window. I don't know what's up with AD. So he jumped out of the window. You were just like, yo, I'm going to fight you. You don't know how to fight with his words. He always try to fight. Nah, but he got his granny's heart. You feel me? He saw him out. He got his granny's heart. The reason why I never said nothing to AD, man, like I fuck with AD. Like, nigga, I was offering, like AD come out here, I offer my studio. I fuck with AD. So I was just like, bro, I even told him out of it.
3:51:14Like, bro, I'm not even trying to get too deep with it. He started doing the, oh, you're a pedophile, you're a diss. Like, again, there was people with me saying, bro, yo, the way you was acting with them on the boat, you shouldn't be doing that. You should have just, like, signaled to us, like, these are the niggas. And I'm like, that's what I'm not going to do. and this is the only thing I want to tell them listen man we're all doing content we're all having a good time I know y 'all have more of a gangsta image of me but like brother we see each other somewhere I'm never going to be in your hood you're never going to be where I live at you're going to see me in some foreign place I'm going to see you in some foreign place I'm going to always be spending a million dollars or 300 ,000 on security cause these niggas over here and it will either way, and I hope maybe you're doing the same.
3:52:10I'm not going to be encouraging no violence, so I'm just hoping let's just keep it content and let's not go to certain places. No, but that makes sense, though. The rules of engagement, like when you're overseas or when you're in a spot like that, there's no chance of y 'all encountering each other in your everyday life. It should be neutral, right? Even if you've had words. But also, I'm not in that mode. And the reason I recorded it is because they have a gangster audience to appease to. He's not wrong. My audience is not going to tell me yo bro, how you swing on him or how you ain't have your man do something to him when they I'm not going to do that.
3:52:54You know why? Because I've never developed that personality but this is the problem with everybody who is doing gangster podcasting. We need to see you be gangster. that's the problem so you want somebody to prove to you that they gangsta and go to jail we need to see you be gangsta hold on but you're getting the audience let me say this let me say this see we gotta make it make sense Munchy because this ain't no different niggas is listening to y 'all because they thinking you are speaking authentically as gangsta so if y 'all not standing on what you're saying just tell the public and I'm gonna give you the opportunity now tell the public what I'm saying here is for entertainment only because again no one expects me to do nothing but he right though they're gonna be like what do you expect I to do y 'all I'm telling you I'm not even talking about I'm just talking about that's like that so look look this this he absolutely what he's saying is right so look this is what I'm gonna say me watching charleston white i know what to expect with charleston white charleston white is a tough civilian if charleston white's got the ups on you he gonna do what he do if you get the ups on him more than likely he gonna probably call the police if you don't hear you talking about some gangster shit that this is how you is this is what you own you definitely should stand on that that ain't no different bro from you being mad and saying for extras being up here talking about all these fights he having and why he ain't catching no fade, bro.
3:54:31It's the same shit, bro. It's the same shit. When you up here talking gangsta, that's what nigga gonna expect of you. If your nigga up here talking about nigga, yeah, this is what I do. Nigga, I'll be the nigga ass who I do. Yeah, it is. It's not different. I'm actually my co-host that's here. Why are y 'all so sure of something y 'all never saw? That's all I'm saying. That makes sense too. No, no, no. Everybody here is so sure of for sure W on this quote unquote smoker but y 'all never saw this man fight ever that's what I was saying I decided to see him do nothing because I know he's willing no not that you need that not that you need to see him do something but the people because this is what you coming with this is what you putting on to the audience I'm knocking shit out I'm fading shit I'm doing this and that so at some point in time we just had this conversation At some point in time You agreed that a nigga gonna want to see you fight The last conversation Was how to keep the audience attention And I said You're gonna have to accept one of these fights They're taking trips to the zoo and all this other shit.
3:55:44So you basically said the same thing. I'm putting on an image. That's what Ax said, though. But that's Ax's whole point, though. Like, literally, he's, like, saying he want to see a demo. No, no, no, no, no, no. He wants somebody to prove some shit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That they said they own. In this conversation, Adam was saying how to keep the viewer's attention and that he was losing their attention. and I said well they're gonna have to see a fade pretty soon cause that's what they yo put it like this I could say this I don't want the nigga to crash out and go back to jail for my entertainment yo because Rory and Millie Mall came to my house I'm never gonna be cool with him guys I'll never be cool with him no matter what podcaster and people talk shit about me all day all night I have never said if I see a nigga well i just say what um um the wasn't it it was on the joe button podcast i forgot his name again but but but we we reconcile that what i'm saying is that i'm not talking as if i'm against it i'm gonna do stuff when i'm listening to some of these podcasters their their their whole demeanor is oh this thing is not outside he's not this implying that if i see them it's going to be A, B, and C.
3:57:05I think that y 'all should chill with that. We're all content creators. Unless you're going to be Tax Stone. Tax Stone is sitting in a nice jail cell right now. He got his bunkie, and I think he has a girlfriend. That's what I heard. Unless you're down to be that, just like we're all doing content, yo, I'm not even on here dissing T-Row, but his audience, I see, like, even Adam Tone was like, his audience is mad at him. Yeah, they're mad at him because did y 'all think he was like this super tough gangster? What are you talking about? Let's be real. He's got one arm. What the fuck was he going to do?
3:57:43I don't think his... I'm surprised his fans thought anything else besides that was going to happen. His fans were bamboozled. Hold on. So y 'all think T-Rail fans think he's tough? No, I don't think that. No, no, no. No. That act might be. I think acting's sad. I know I'm going to joke how you ask the question I'll say to everybody's audience yo listen I listen to No Jump I listen to multiple platforms I do respect the opinions of people like a Munchie B I do respect even and half here I respect your opinion you give the opinion and the ideology of what somebody who's aligned with the streets would think how they would most likely move here's the thing and respectfully to y 'all unless y 'all tell me differently you can tell me differently now I don't look at y 'all if you're honest Mike I don't think a real gangster is ever going to be on a podcast Mike I'm sorry they shouldn't be they should wait until the end of their the tail end of their career not the body catching part of their career you said that in a way that's like super inflammatory there's a lot of ways to be gangster though yeah every time I listen to those guys like I'm like, oh, I don't think like them, but they're giving the perspective that you have to respect because it factors into everything, but I'm never, like, here's the problem.
3:59:07There's a part of the audience that when they're watching No Jumper, and like, you know, by the way, shout out to your host, 4X, I know he had an accident. They're looking at him like he's the Incredible Hulk. Like, yo, that's why I keep saying WWE they're looking at these people as super thugs or killers just like how they looked at gangster rappers and a lot of the times is that if you're into anything and you get on a podcast mic you're going to get indicted or you're super stupid or you're going to keep going back but also act there's a difference between someone like t-relle who like i don't really know he has any like as far as gangster accolades when it comes to being locked up this or that like I don't know if he's ever done any time like like Hefe and Munchie these dudes are like there's a different level of credentials as far as like incarceration and stripes and things that they've done so you're the one telling me so you basically tell me that like you'll act like you'll do T-Rose is pussy and like I didn't say he was pussy but there's levels when it comes to like respect in the LA streets be on YouTube or and on YouTube so that's a so like that's why like Ant himself I don't know I think it's like damn near 10 years or more I could be mistaken he was incarcerated in the feds like T-Rail hasn't spent 10 days in fucking juvie so like there's a significant difference right there alright well that might be a point the only thing I was just trying to say is that you know some people were sending me like their audience being so disappointed i was just like bro again i'm not telling anyone they shouldn't watch the the figmunity world ad or t-reld but like if you're watching them to be like this is like a gangster perspective or like these are gangsters no you should look at it like these are content creators that come from a certain place that's going to give a different perspective yes again i'm telling you we're i'm gonna run into him and we're going to take five shots of Don Julio.
4:01:22We're probably going to be on a yacht together and you never know. We might go like, I don't even smoke hookah, but we might be smoking hookah. So just stop thinking these dudes are killers, please. Stop thinking these dudes are killers, please. That's really how it's like. People really think that? But I just think people need to stop like for real because people just need to be comfortable and they scan and stop trying to like, you feel me? And I'm not talking about nobody in particular, but I'm just saying just people, period. People need to be comfortable in their own skin. And then if you stand on what you say, you know what I'm saying?
4:02:01Like if that's what you own and if it don't go your way or whatever, just don't be talking about that as content. Everything is content, you know what I'm saying? Because like people definitely going to expect you to stand on something that come out your mouth like when you're talking like that. And imagine if you're not in as financially advantageous of a situation as academics and you go on vacation only to have it be completely ruined and embarrassed and like you and your wife and your old... I thought you were doing some player shit. Yeah, you thought you were like bossing up in the game. No, everyone's like questioning and making fun of you.
4:02:31Everybody's running content about you. Yeah, because academics seeing you and Paul Pierce trying to... Members of your gang are calling in to denounce you on podcast. As a result of a Turk's vacation. That sucks, dude. That fucking sucks. I don't know what happened, but like in terms of fallout, but again, yo, you know, for the audience, again, this is why I love engaging with people who are quote-unquote gangster, because my audience don't expect nothing from me. This is why I challenge every rapper to a fight, because if I challenge you to a fight and you beat my ass, you're like, well, it's academics, you can't win.
4:03:09If I beat your ass, you're done! So you're in an unlosable war with me, so good luck, nigga. anytime I hear a gangster nigga saying well you don't come outside I can't wait till I see you outside I'm like okay so when you see me outside and we take a shot together and you're driving a boat you don't want some Magnus down and shit does that mean that we're like best because I think I'm I think me and T-Roll are best friends now you were saying that you don't think that either of them are tough I'll be real I think Smack probably got a body Really? I don't know about any of that Hey Man y 'all don't smudge it Hey man No no no Smack Smack Smack
4:04:01Smack that's the homie man Smack really Smack If it was Smack in there You know I wouldn't give it a little bit more I would say yo could you go get him some Tito's you know maybe a Corona and he's like we gonna chill and you know like low key because I love the West Coast too I might tell a DJ he'll play not like us that I could see him dancing we're gonna be fine we're gonna have a great time what's the problem hey Ack what's the rich guy protocol so let's say you're in the same situation but another dude that you had interactions with on the internet before like of like a meek or like a freddie gibbs type person you feel me that you had been into it with or whatever you run into it and they're cool are you gonna be cool when you see someone like that no no no of course i'm always because i've never threatened violence on anybody but if it was somebody more serious it's gonna be instant like yo wait what are we doing are we banging out or we are we just talking you know t-roll came over there to try to you know get a shot man like it's all good that's my boy the fuck he's harmless there's a bar there's such a bar there how many more days are you on vacation I don't know is T-Rex out here I'm trying to go bottle for bottle with him I don't know I was out there I didn't even know they had clubs I didn't go out one fucking night I was going to sleep earlier but that's what got shit going that's what got shit going right now though man I'm in every spot with him out here.
4:05:39But, hey, this is why, hey, listen, and that's my man's, so this is no shots here. I got to take this really lightly. I understand what Fat Joe is saying. You don't want to be in the Joe button seats. Pause. When you a spicy nigga, when you go on vacation, you don't want to be in the smaller boat, not having a section. You got to be popping it. You got to be in the private jet, biggest section, 10 bottles. You know why? Because you're going to see the nigga who you've been low-key dissing online, and he got everything with 10 tings. And he's, well, that's gross. I'm talking like I'm from Toronto.
4:06:18I'm not going to church. Yo, and he's going to be looking at you like, bro, oh, that's how you coming? Okay, all right. What's up, man? Like, yo, I love you. Like, I love you too. Okay, just content. Let's give him a shot. Give him a shot real quick. Yeah. Yeah, I think AD and Pun got to get on T-Rail's ass about not standing on business. They got to give him a little bit of a protocol on what to do next time. He could have at least tried to make it a joke, been like, what's up, fool? He could have said something. Another thing, man, people got to stop crashing out about these chats because I don't give a fuck what the chats say.
4:06:53That's what a lot of people have been motivated off these chats recently, hearing what the chats say. I only got one question to ask to Munchie B and Hefe. So I look at T-Rail. I look at AD. They're content creators. Yes, they come from a certain place. They're content creators. They've told me that. Because when I was talking to them, they'd be like, no, we're doing content. I'm like, all right, cool. They did, like, what happened was what happens with content creators. We got to stop fooling the public. Like, we got to stop doing the WWE shit. did y 'all think there was any gangsterism that these guys would possess that if they ever saw me it would be going crazy and if y 'all say yes i'm gonna look at y 'all very different hey you can't look so you should have let us ask you should have let us answer the question before you told us how you was gonna look at it because i was gonna answer no anyway now i did a segment pertaining to what T-Rail was saying and how he was clowning pertaining to you.
4:07:58And I didn't really take it serious as if when T-Rail seen you that he was going to do something. I thought it was really much more. I'm not going to sit here and say that I thought he was going to see you and take a shot with you and it was going to be good, but I definitely didn't expect T-Rail to do anything to you. I thought he was just more riding. I mean, not riding, but like giving more into the Kendrick and Drake versus things like you on Drake's side. I'm on Kendrick's side. a high, high, high type situation. By the way, I think just like you. Again, me and you, we think exactly alike.
4:08:35I'm only saying anything to kill the... The thing is, their audience is not thinking that. Their audience is like, these are the tough guys. Man, no, man. Yo, yo, somebody here. Yo, hold on, hold on. Don't even laugh. I gotta read you this DM. I gotta read you this DM. This is when I responded. This is a big blog page. They gave me a breakdown of T-Rail. They made that nigga sound like a serial killer gang. This guy right here, they're well decorated. They come from this. They fold up on a disc. Yo, they're on this street. It was so crazy. I respect this person so much. I didn't want to be like, I'm not scared of T-Rail.
4:09:20I'm sorry. That sounds like chat GPT. I interviewed T-Rail's brother. Who's basically like the, the one who's actually from Hoover that really has respect out there in the whole street world. And he made it perfectly clear that T-Rail was basically just like somebody that they let hang around and was not like a formal member of Hoover. Yeah. Listen, I got no comment about what he's not. What I'm saying is he's a good, well, I almost say a good podcaster. he's a he's a aspiring podcaster you know he's trying to be you know trying to do his thing and um we're all doing content and when he gets back from vacation just like when i get back from vacation we could talk about this for like a day or two and then we'll move on and his audience like to everybody in the back of the fig like audience just stop believing you're following gangsters.
4:10:17You're following podcasters. You're following academics just from the hood. That's it. As soon as, and I hate to like, I know the Reddit right now, they're like, what? You're following academics just from the hood. I guess, I don't know what hood it is, but that's it. And as long as you accept that, we're all good. You know? What did you think of his girl? When he said he was going to crash out on you. He said if it was you, niggas got to drown you that's crazy i know i would love that i would love the optics of me beating the shit out of a of a strong uh happy black couple on vacation i think that would be really good for my image but yo so what do you think of his girl when you saw her i saw that you captured her like falling off the boat i don't know if she got a concussion when she hit the water or not but uh what do you think of her the reddit has been a little bit critical of her appearance to be totally honest yo I'm gonna be honest with you bro and I'm gonna just extend some grace I never knew until like today they were like yo you know his girl was really spicing up last year yo again because I don't have real issues with T-Rell like that that's your woman she's probably trying to pipe it up go crazy y 'all know when I did have a girl she used to say wild shit about people I'm gonna just forgive them yo T-Rell I got another bottle of Don Julio, right for you, bro.
4:11:42Let's take a couple shots. Let's get over this. Hopefully, yo, listen, I feel like it's an MLK I Have a Dream speech. One day, me, Adam, T-Rell, and AD, we all finna take a shot from that Don Julio bottle, and T-Rell gonna be pouring it with his good arm. That's it. And we're gonna squash all this shit. It's over. Thank you. Dead homies. I hope I live to see that day. no it's gonna happen like two weeks from now don't worry two weeks wow he's got a fast he's got a fast track towards peace yeah you know when Trump's like I'm about to end this war in like two weeks I mean maybe we need to do like what America did and we need to just drop some bombs on the Sorella office and then we'll be cool they might be enriching nuclear waste in there I don't know I'm pretty sure there's a bad biological footprint right above that building for sure yeah all right go hit the club go turn up for us academics appreciate you calling in man all right man and by the way Adam know you killing it you know hey appreciate it man to and hefe and munchie b yo yo with no jumper got going on right now I like it you know I'm gonna be honest with you at times you know me and Adam be getting to our shit but like I'll be watching right now, I'm tuned in.
4:13:06Y 'all are giving good content. Adam, just don't listen to this. What the fuck? I'm trash at? Is that a bus? I'm trash or what? No, no. They be looking at these guys as replacements, but they're great. Blush is great. Brandon, do not fire him. He's good. He gives a good point. You got potential, huh? Yo, I got to go turn up, man. Me and T-Row about to take some more shots. All right. appreciate you man much more what a funny guy yo I gotta piss something T-Rail's supposed to bring that to the internet before you yo it's gonna be interesting if uh I don't know when T-Rail get back footage it was on Axe Story I woke up and it was already in the reddit people are already multiple people that sent me the link T-Rail just interviewed the little homies the other day oh yeah that was the story alright yo I am gonna piss my pants if we keep this going we gotta do that I mean if you wanna piss real quick nah fuck that we're gonna do super chats fuck pissing the only thing I'm pissing on is King Pill alright we got some new members number one Dulo N2Deep who we just interviewed we probably wanted to check his interview out because it's already out four members and we're gonna be dropping the clips I think starting tomorrow shout out to Dulo So HD became a member.
4:14:35Shout out to Sirius Carlos, Zay Curry, Patrick Bennett II, Fratello Factory, Hard Rock Slots 813, Sidier Gibson, Pugmaster, Jaisal Jackson, JA, and Reese from Philly. Also, shout out to Cap. He said, I bet my last dollar Munchie B mentions Crypt Max name today. It hasn't been a No Jumper show he's been on that he doesn't mention Krip Mac. You just lost. You lost because Munchie V did not mention Krip Mac. Munchie V did not mention Krip Mac. Although we did talk about him a little bit on the Dulo interview. So just to warn you. But on this podcast. On this podcast, you were the one who brought up Krip Mac, my friend.
4:15:16Nobody got nothing against Krip Mac, bro. Yeah, but you literally didn't. They tried anytime, bro. Asad Aziz said, Ant Hefe gonna say he got three flats this time. The whole time he's at the slurping machine and picking out fresher backwood packs.
4:15:34I mean, you got to get that right. Yeah, that's a fact. May said, here to show love. Shout out to Anne Hefe. Shout out Munchie B. I love seeing you both on No Jumper. I also always watch your channels. Lush, everyone loves you too. Oh, that's sweet. We appreciate you. Much love, May. Good looking. Pittsburgh Warside sent$10 and said, Adam, your boy Trey Av letting the blick go, protecting his homie. I sent the video to you, Lush, and the Nojumper page. Yes, we did talk about that. Thank you to Pittsburgh Warside. That was gnarly. Shout out to Troy Av getting his kill count up. We're all proud of you.
4:16:14DragoniteCrip said, Lush, go home and change your turtleneck to get roasted in the chat. Don't stretch it out. Stand on that. I enjoy it. I'll be honest with you. Lush has a plethora of different looks. This is merely one of them. There's only so much I could do. Gerald Broflosky said, Ant spending too much time in Bath & Body Works. My boy late because he buy a designer shirt. He talking about a bar out of some. The high-end. White t-shirt. Greed TV said, Ant Hefe chasing Bussy too much. Late every episode is crazy. Damn, they on your ass, man. He chasing Bussy. What are you talking about Bussy?
4:16:49He's Bussy free for sure. uh izzy said r.i.p the ruler appreciate that shout out izzy luchi band said luchi bands featuring fbg duck number one fan okay i'm gonna have to check that out shout out to greg bennett for becoming a member shout out to alcoholic gamer he said adam it's time you bring back one impactful presence to nj jack like jess needs to make a return he really viral tequila and mango juice and lemonade drinks on me honestly i would not be against having munchies munchie and an jefe interacting with jack like jess would be pretty crazy he's a white dude who used to be a crib and now he's like a bisexual porn star and he was first on the podcast because he was dating a trans woman who was previously a man and him and brick baby really hit it off man man I'm not gonna lie to you they had a little bit of a crip brotherhood thing going on considering the last episode cause it's like you you bisexual and like how do we even discuss the cripping like I don't want to talk about no cripping you'd be even more I'm not even gonna say what type of crip that what line he was pushing cause I think it's just gonna make it No, bro.
4:18:13No, bro. He's from New York, so it's all different shit. You could have said porn star. I'm more so on that side of things. New York ain't really... New York is different to a degree, but New York got LA games. I'm just saying, I feel like Lush is hinting at him being from... No, no, no. I'm saying he's from the East Coast and shit. He's from New York. You're like, yeah. He a different type of crib. You was about to say some spicy shit like, oh, he this type of crib. No, I think somebody said you ain't heard of or something. Nah, it's probably better that we just... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brothers are good for one of those.
4:18:51Yeah, it's probably... I'm not going to do all that. Juan Rodriguez said$5 and said, Adam Podlord said on stream that Riley sent you pictures of her tits back in the day. Is it true? If so, how's the areola? It pains me to have to clear this up, but Podlord is lying and he knows he's lying because in fact i don't even think i've ever had riley's phone number she definitely never sent me pictures of her booze we didn't flirt i was already fully in a relationship with lena at the moment that i met her uh so before she became yuri's girlfriend i'd spent like you know fucking five minutes around her at the meet and greet so that is a fake narrative but shout out to pot lord for stirring the pot regardless also pot lord for being like literally like in the south of france and like the most like luxury is like living like better than act was in turks yeah and still doing battle writing with people who get 20 live viewers shout out little mexican he said it's a no-fly zone for winning 100 and the 100 side on reddit for threatening the clement 51st street gen you know what you're trying to say general on you know what he tries reddit disciples nation we don't play about them so he's saying that that whack threatened you?
4:20:05No, I believe. Who the Clemson 51st Street General? That's Lush. He's very easy. Lush can't decide what he's from. Clemson Street. There's a lot of layers. Yeah, yeah, that's the phrase. They like conflating a bunch of shit into one thing. But with that being said, we love whack, man. Come on, bro. You don't think whack on dude nothing? All right. Darren Faust. Thank you for becoming a member. It's because you said that I was whacked at 100 times R &B. It's really your fault. You do. You're being off to her, right? No. You love a big-titty black woman, don't you? I mean, of course. Me, too. Yeah.
4:20:43Me, too. I want to see her naked. But apparently, I send on formalities with him that you don't. A lot of people get on your ass about things that other people do, and they just kind of zero in on you. But I never even brought the woman up, unfortunately. You feel me? It was all just me. Yo, it's a$2 donation, but Spider said, let's change your shirt, your armpits are soaked. Hey, this is the first thing. You know what's crazy? Both of them out, and I know you ate. I'm going to keep it a bundle. I'm not even that sweaty, but every ounce of sweat got absorbed by this. I'm never wearing this. In that spot.
4:21:22Yeah, yeah. It's a cool shirt. You look like a painter. Do I look super sweaty? Y 'all see me. You look like a beatnik. Yeah, exactly. I was going for a French painter. Shout out to Darren Faust for becoming a member. Spider also said, Adam, don't need 4X, so the show's great without him. Only time will tell. Tap ENT said, there's no way luscious pits are that wet. Bro, they're really not. Brian says, it's a design of your shirt, bro. Exactly. It's part of the shirt, dude. Steve-O said, Heather got a square shitter. It was a bar. I don't know what you're referring to, sir. J real, uh, bully breaker said J real called into politics with Adam 22 about who have a business SMA.
4:22:06She instantly put in a goofy category. Well, that's between you and him. I personally thought we had a great conversation. Uh, bully breaker also said T rel done had on almost every Hoover with that motion. He mad, he wasn't in the bunch man, make your own name and Adam get to the content. Dude fried. No, I want to J real. I'm going to listen to your music as soon as we leave today. And if you're fire yeah i need to get behind him no you know here's the realest shit ever j real if you're fire then t-relle is the biggest hater ever and everything you said is true if you suck then you're being super thirsty bro like and that just is what it is because in reality t-relle has shined a lot of light on that community okay love him or hate him bmx 1803 said five dollars said dividing the oranges starting to look like a neighborhood agent okay I'm never going to get rid of this narrative Bully Breaker also said J Real Maddy didn't get invited on lol I know FD's in five deuces in real life that mess with T-Rail and all the ones mad are the ones who haven't been on the pod these folks trying to be video vixens LMAO I'm about to slap bros music as soon as we did Dollar Bill became a member shout out to him Sloth King said working overtime today time flies while listening to the homies I look forward to this pod every week.
4:23:22Shout out to everybody at the table. Shout out to you, Sloth King. You're a legend. DNI Mike sent 20 bucks and said, this is for my boy Ant. Stop getting them used tires. That's why they keep going flat. Put this 20 so you can stop being late. Just kidding. You got nothing to do with the used tires. The rim is cracked on the bench, Ty. Get you a bench. Get you a bench. Crack the rim and find out what's going on, sir. I had that problem before where your tires fucked up. Being one of your homie, Benz. or being one of your homie businesses and they hit a pothole and it got the same problem and you got to keep on getting tired whether you buy a new one or use one until you get that new rim it's going to keep on cutting the inner tube and making it tired for it late breaking call we got Brick Baby on the line what?
4:24:08it's Brick Night The Trinity what's going on what's going on legendary bro how you feeling tell Brick man Man, I'm kicking back. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Remo and the 2-Wop, man. I'm on top, man. Oh, yeah. We had to shoot him a little bread this week. What's up? Hey, Brick. I'm 16, man. Brick, baby. I'm on cloud 22. Brick, baby. What's the big old deal, man? Hey, man, you need to send word up there to the ninth floor, man. They need to get loose cannon. He calling these streets trying to set people up asking for spice paper. Damn. Wait, really? Damn. He calling people phones. He is.
4:24:50He calling people phones that he don't even know on a recorded call trying to ask for spice papers. I don't know what his problem is. He's two federal. Hey, you ever eat two federal? It's not how many man show. Hey, hey, I told you he's a spooky dog. Man, is that right? That dude cold. He just retorted. That's crazy. He got my name in his mouth. Stop that police shit. What? Who this? This my nigga at? Yeah, yeah. He got my name in his mouth. I ain't even watching. That nigga tried to call my little brother line, tried to line my little brother up. Wait, never. You know, man, they've been having a whole lot of cat out series, man.
4:25:25Number three is an interesting individual, but they really scared a little cut. That's what it is. They really scared a little cut. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. Somehow you're buying. I ain't going to even put that on. We ain't going to do that right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's all love, though, man. He trying to Set niggas up The click Try to set my little What'd you say? I said it's 8.30 already The phone start clicking I got 8.30 on the dot Yeah Hey Brick we doing a cipher for you fool It's about to be lockdown time In DC Damn so Yo but like how are you doing in there? Give the people some kind of update about how you're feeling and what's going on.
4:26:16Ah, man, you know, everything, everything, man. I'm out here. I'm push-ups, pull-ups, and burpees, man. I'm 180. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Doing my thing, man. You know, I got a deal on the table. I'll be letting everybody know what is going on. It's looking good for us, man. Let's go. We're going to be back to the coolest podcast in the world. You know, I'm the rep on my floor, you know what I'm saying? And it's going to be some... There's Wemton. Lockdown time. I hate him, DC 830 program. Like, man, what? Everybody else? 9, 930. No, free that man. Yeah, yeah. All right.
4:26:56Yo, I appreciate you. Okay, of course. Thank you. Free that man, bro. Free that man. Free the bricks. Free that man to keep all the snitches, bro. Let them write that shit out. yeah not for real yeah that's fucking crazy attempted attempted uh snitching for spice paper is crazy at least we got a little bit a little three minutes of brick there that was good um okay uh most official said act is the one that was called a pdf and didn't do nothing talks real tough if anyone got marked out as act now i agree with act's logic it's the same thing that i say which is basically like I'm not acting tough.
4:27:41I'm not the one saying that I'm going to do something when I see somebody. So it's on you if you want to be the one to show up. You can't tempt people, bro. Trouble them and like disrespect them whether you feel you're being disrespectful or not and then when they want to do something they can't because you got some butt-f ass security with weapons and they'll blow you down. Like that don't, I don't get it. And then I'm like, I ain't the tough guy. So I, nah bro. So you can't disrespect people. Nah, nah, nah, nah. I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that at all, bro. But the thing is, is that they were the ones disrespecting him.
4:28:13You're going to say Dusto Dub. That's not a comparison. Dusto Dub don't have security. He's approached. You could touch him on his shoulder. You know what I mean? Dusto Dub got security the vast majority of the time. Not that day. Not that day. It's not a knock on Dub at all. I'm just saying that you get an example. Come on, bro. But then finding him and choosing to pick on him. $300 ,000 on security? When he's like a nice dude that don't be like starting shit with people. like oh we gonna like try to press him over it that'll show either way okay uh drizzy dre said out out of i told you i'm the biggest no jumper and wwe fan i can run some plays for you fuck with academics is talking about drizzy dre shout out to you i'm i'm i'm very influenced by vince mcmahon as far as uh what we're doing over here so i appreciate that bishop rojas said magnum in my pocket is a is it a gun or a condom great question i gotta protect myself when i gotta rap of my anaconda also can y 'all call almighty suspect right now i'm gonna be real this the piss that i gotta take right now i'm not really trying to call anybody but maybe we will do that on the news or some shit in the near future uh bully breaker sent another ten dollars said munchie and ant take axe compliments with a grain of salt as soon as y 'all bump heads he's gonna talk about you like a dog lol ask adam that's why he's trying to stay on his good side lol um yeah i can switch up on people but at the same time I do believe him when he says that he thinks Munchy and I don't think he had a good podcaster so I want to read too much into it take the compliment I know I know you know what I'm saying yo Michael Spencer wrote free and then I can't tell what this emoji is what is it is it a break no oh yeah it is break but it's like oh it is break though okay actually and then uh some and then okay and then bone became a member and then that's it i so basically what i'm saying is shout out to everybody who watched this four and a half hours not bad at all we did a fucking marathon shout out to everybody who called in it was a heavy call in stream but i personally had a good time we had fucking 9 000 viewers all the time so that's pretty good uh shout out to my boy and jefe he's got youtube content dropping daily, myself and many others are very much tapped in.
4:30:36So go tap in with the good old people over there. Sure, for sure. On the Anne Hefe channel. All you gotta do is search Anne Hefe. You'll find it right away. They said, I'm turning in to the, um, you know, shout out to the dude that said I'm turning to the um, the new streets, Wendy Williams. You know what I'm saying? Ooh, okay, okay. There's a lot of politicking going on on there. If you want to know what's going on in the streets. Fake, fake, imaginary smoke, man. Anne Hefe will fill you in. Wendy Trilliums. And then also Munchie B been dropping content Very very regularly on his Channel Munchie B the mayor of YouTube channel for sure Yeah and then Lush A little sporadic but Lush is out here I got it Jealousy be real on YouTube man That shit be crazy I literally I think I just found out exactly what I want to do With my YouTube channel and it's going to be For the culture for hip hop And for all the music heads and I found exactly and for all y 'all aspiring artists out there just wait a second i got y 'all armpit stains aside you feel me yeah we're coming like that video armpit stains freestyle coming soon yeah exactly that's my next joint that's the next one the armpit stain freestyle yeah and as far as me uh if i could direct you to anything i would just say smash the like button on this episode We did hit 100 ,000 views on the YouTube video itself throughout the course of this, which I feel like is something that we might not have done in a long time.
4:32:03So shout out to everybody out there. Also, anybody who becomes a member, you are extremely great. Shout out to Donnie for manning the boards and turning his hat around when requested by OG Gumby. Crazy. Donnie on a beat. Let's go. Appreciate y 'all. Much love. See y 'all. I'm from the mom. Team Elite 10.
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