The NJ Show #387: Is This The End???

37:48No, who is scared of the Mexicans? Mexicans run Mexicans. They tax each other. They don't tax us. And I'm not going to go no further after that because I don't want to offend nobody. But you don't know what you're talking about because you haven't been, you don't live in these hoods and you haven't been in none of these jailhouses. You don't know what you're talking about. But Munchie, you know how to like, you're a media train to the point where you know how to conduct yourself on camera. You know what to say, what not to say. A lot of other people, they might see that video and have a very different reaction.

38:17It ain't media train. I'm going to tell you something. Like you said, not to cut you off, I think like you said, it's just certain subjects. You feel me that you can say I'm not going to say because I ain't what putting stipulations on people and shit. People are going to do what they're going to do, bro. It's like, at the end of the day, it's up to you to walk the fire line or jump off of it. So I just think it's certain subjects you don't want flock over the broach. Now, as far as on the Mexican and black situation, right, this is how I feel about it, bro. And we kind of, we had an interview yesterday with Spody Face.

38:53Yes. Me and Adam, right? And I was kind of had brought this up as well, right? So this is what I see. Shout out Spuddyface. This is what I see in the culture, bro. Like, you right. Like, blacks really trip on blacks. And, you know, Mexicans got their things going on. But I think, like, kind of a certain degree, like, where I be seeing out here, like, it be a temperament, like, check. Like, people, like, monotones where it comes to beefing with these certain Hispanic hoods or letting them get away with shit that we don't let blacks get away with certain black hoods be letting them get away with that shit bro and that's just the truth of the matter bro and I'm as a member this is what I'm seeing and experiencing bro for real for real bro but you said that from a hood that haven't had no allies with expanded hood or beef yeah but we but this this thing like we not allowing nothing like we like you can't come in our shit just hitting your shit up we crossing that shit out so like they I know the game we know the game they play they gonna push the They're going to push the line only as far as you let them push and see what they can get away with, bro.

40:00And, like, just even in jail, like, if certain members there are like, yeah, we're going to rock it off. Like, you know what I'm saying? We ain't playing no games. But I've been a person that's been in them units, bro. Look. I'm talking on the streets, though, as far as. Yeah, but I'm on the streets, too. Our streets are the deals. I just gave this analogy yesterday. Right now, I bet a million dollars. We could bet$1 ,000 that right now you could damn near go through a majority of the black hoods and hit up a South Sider hood, and as long as they ain't got beef with no Mexicans, it's going to stand.

40:30It's not going to get crossed out. But you go hit up a black hood, that shit going to get crossed out quick, bro. I agree with that. It's just the dynamics and I promise you. Also, that's up a white hood. We got the city on it. They're going to clean that shit right the fuck up. You know what's funny about that? Pressure washers. We had a dude named T-Baby from Englewood. Don't gangbang. But he hung around us. Little fly dude. He always had all the fly cars. If you're from Englewood, they gonna know who T-Baby is, right? So, T-Baby worked for the city of Englewood. So, when we be hanging out, we just hit up IMG, Englewood family, big as fuck, whacking our shit, right?

41:04And then, we see the truck, and T-Yo, he painting our shit over. Because he worked for the, we be all, hey, hey, nigga, he be looking like, watch out. Like, he got his little paintbrush. I'm like, nigga on Englewood. But we leave him alone. But especially Englewood, they trying to paint shit over fast. It ain't like LA, you know what I'm saying? I'm convinced though that it's funny you said that a lot of the more prominent graffiti writers are just fools that be getting up like that even gangbangers that tag are city workers because they be getting access to I know that's not what you said but I know you said the opposite you said the homie actually has some but the city covering up graffiti but on that same token there's certain access that only city workers can have for fools to catch some of the spots let me tell you something bro bro bro them hoods as allies with Mexican hoods or beef with them they had no bro and I'm going to tell you something it's something about Hispanic hoods they're very strategic bro and even if they do feel a weight and y 'all allies they might be brewing for a little while and then it might kick it off when they feel like they're in position to do it and y 'all hood took over that's how Mexicans they're very strategic period and they will live 15 to a house and start a click on your street.

42:23Oh, we're the Burbank Threats. No, for real. That's true. And that's how they do. But they don't run anything, bro. The Hispanic community, the Threats, they more unified. They strategic. But they don't run anything. They don't run the blacks. They don't tax us. It ain't none of that. Flacco, you got it wrong. It's very disrespectful. Nigga. Well, now that you're mentioning Hispanic hoods, I think it's a perfect time for us to bring up the things that P-Face Baby was saying about you on Camp Capone the other day, which, by the way, I actually saw P-Face Baby on Sunday at the Skrilla show. Oh, for real?

42:59Y 'all may invite me nowhere. He could have hollered at me then. That was impromptu. I also did not know he was going to be there. But we. Chance the Skrilla. Do we have a clip here about it? Yeah, show off the P-Face. Yeah, we actually do. We have the clip. We have a clip. Perfect. Where's some headphones that we don't need them? No, we're going to need them. Where are the headphones? So these ones are right here. Oh, yeah, it's right here. Sorry. Pea face, baby. Shout out to you. Shout out to my boy Solus. I saw him at the show, too. He was showing love. That's right. Okay, sorry. Solus, OTR.

43:36Solus, my dog. There's the fucking video. In the other seconds. We'll put it over the chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. put it over the chat. I thought it had phones. I feel like I'm in a bowl. All right. You're good. About to fire on Baby Runner, huh? What? You got to talk about that. Today's the Munchie show. All Munchie's beefs will be addressed. Let's get out. Hey. Oh, you're saying the player? All right. All right. Here we go. Peep heads, baby. I'm on camp. We can't hear it. Oh, there we go. I try to make it seem and try to use it for their own benefit, for their own platform. If they really feel some type of way, how come none of them got at me?

44:11like on a personal level you know none of them has ever gotten me i see these little clips on no jumper how they speak up on the situation how come none of them really got uh told me nothing about it you know so it's just like that's that's what i kind of feel weird you know like if you really feel some type of way address me about it instead of not speaking to move on it you know just for little clips you know that's just corny because any day i can say oh yeah i'm all about what's it called uh rasa all that shit but i'm beefing it with amongst each other and i'm and and I'm smutting the, what's it called, and other Mexicans, like, what's it called, you know?

44:44How am I saying I'm all about that stuff when I'm doing all that shit? Same thing when I see with them, you know? The what's it called, they be, they be what's it called smutting each other instead of what's it called, you know, getting money together, you know? But that's why they try to say, oh, he diss our community. What's it called? How are you going to say you diss your community, but you guys are beefing it amongst each other with your community? Same thing with us, you know? We got some, we got some, you know, what's it called? But it's not, it's not necessarily the black community, but the people who try to speak up on me, like Munchie B, what's it called, all them little fools, like, what's it called, I see that fool talking about 4XR every second, you know, he try to always talk about me, you know, saying that, and he try to instigate, he try to instigate with some fools from, what's it called, treetop, you know, shout out to the treetops, try to instigate, what's it called, saying, oh, you should fade him over that, if you really feel some type of way, you do it, what's it called, why are you trying to, oh yeah, you heard what this was, why are you even trying to get in Compton politics, you know what's it called as it already is you know the little tension is already right there why he's trying to add on what's it called that's like the female shit he's instigating you know and he's all the way from inglewood and he blind he he what's it called when it comes down to it he's not gonna put her nowhere he's just gonna use that blind shit that's what i'm like nah when i see him talking about it and what's it called and say oh oh what's it called like oh he's dissing the black community how you gonna say talk about the black community when you right there beefing it with all these fools, you know, like, that's why I, to be honest, I personally don't got beef with nobody.

46:07Like, I really don't got beef with nobody, dog, straight up. I'm my own person, you know? So that's why you don't see me, what's it called, like, this and my enemies and my music on that shit, you know, all that shit. This fool, right, they're doing some, like, female shit, you know? Like, that's why I'm like, I don't know what to say with that fool. Okay. What's your thoughts? Okay, look, before I got here, I did content on this. More is over money. He's gonna premiere after this, right? First of all, if you say anything in with the hard ER, it's not Compton or Bompton politics no more. It's not that, right?

46:40Okay. Do you know he's a rapper? He want to get his shit out there. I'm like, man, squabble him up. I'm not talking about killing nobody. You're an entertainer. He is. That's what they're doing these days. Rappers and entertainers and floors. They're fighting. That's what it is. So he's saying that you said, hey, do you know you should take T-Face Baby's Fade instead of you doing it? No, I ain't no until, but the thing is, bro, I don't want to get into, like, with me doing things because, bro, bro, hey, like, okay, I got enough respect. I could send the homies over there to electrocute a nigga, but that ain't what I want to do.

47:15I'm not on that. I'm not about to send nobody to do nothing like that. I'm just saying, gloves up, guns down. You disrespected a whole race, bro. You didn't diss nobodyhood. It's not Compton politics. It's not. And then, okay, furthermore, said to your face, you had an interview scheduled with Adam 22 and Munchie B, and you canceled. Lord, do the scheduling. She said he's going to reschedule. I text Adam. I said, no, he not. I said, no, he not, because I got a call. A mutual party that messed with OTR said, hey, bro, I kind of back up off of P-Face. You know what I'm saying? He was young at the time.

47:53Like, you know, if somebody came at me like that during a live using a verb, I would have talked his back to. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, yeah, it's cool because me and Adam got an interview coming up with him soon. Because that's my only issue with what he's saying. He's saying like, oh, nobody would say it to my face or even message me directly. Oh, we go and family, I will. But we did have an interview planned in which I know you had a lot of stuff that you wanted to get off. He canceled. And by the end of that interview, I'm sure we would have all been on good terms. We would have been on good terms because I wasn't coming with a bad interview.

48:19I wasn't coming with a bad interview. I'm trying to get understanding. Okay, when he came in He sat down for some seconds He departed, he shook hands with Ant He shook hands with me, he said who's from Him and Ant, they exchanged the communities He left, okay, then me and Ant Started getting tagged and reactions Oh, you let them diss black people Oh, why y 'all didn't say nothing I never knew, I never heard of his hood or him Or his music So now I'm listening in So now I'm like, I'm not feeling it Because if you don't like black people, why even talk to me Right? So don't even talk to me if you don't like my people.

48:52Now, I start running across shit like DC Baby Draco. They did some shit. He apologized. Oh, it's cool. But I done did an interview with Adam and what's my boy, Cheetop? Giuna. I'm like, man, she catch that fade. He just, you know what I'm saying? Oh, he's talking about something that you said on the podcast. That's what pissed him off. I thought he was behind the scenes being like, yo, Giuna, you gotta take this fade for me. No, no, no. You do so many interviews, you don't be remembering, but guess what? He keeps saying, oh, say it to my face, you canceled. And when you canceled, Lauren, who scheduled everybody, she said, oh, he got to reschedule.

49:31I text Adam, I said, no, he ain't. He ain't coming. He going to cry in the car. I thought that you were being pessimistic. No. It didn't get rebuffed after that. I got a call, and somebody was like, man, kick back off of him. because I'm like, I'll overstand because now I didn't come across the content where he said he apologized. He was young. Somebody was talking itch to him back. He talked it back. You know what I'm saying? He don't feel that way. And my thing was, is you trying to be cool because, you know, black people, we at the door when it comes to hip hop and you want to be in the hip hop room.

50:06Is you being cool because of that? Or you naturally grew out or whatever. Or you said something because you just shoot some slugs back. That's all it was. and then the content I did earlier I didn't call him out his name although I wanted to because I want to leave room for dialogue because once you talk and say something too disrespectful after that all bets is off I ain't talking to him so I wasn't going to disrespect him but I want him to pull up now do you think that he had somewhat of a valid point with the whole like okay there's already somewhat tension between sections that could be exacerbated by because it don't matter about your section when you say the the N-word with the hard E-R, it's beyond Long Beach, Compton, Inglewood, Gardena, Pasadena.

50:47It don't matter about that. You talking about a race, not a game. Dis Piru then. You didn't do that. So, don't say you're not in Compton politics if you dissing a race. If I say F, the disrespectful term for Mexicans, all of them are going to be offended, not just the Inglewood Mexicans. For sure. for sure I don't think that he's in any way like standing on the fact that he said some racial terms when he was much younger on Instagram or whatever he wants to get past that and make it clear that he don't have problems but I'm taking him at face value with what he said in that interview or whatever even the interview I did with him never at any point did I get the idea like oh you don't fuck with black people in general and I think he does regret that he made that video back in the day that being said I feel like the people would probably you know take him at I think if he sat down with Munchie and said whatever he had to say that they would have loved him for it for being willing to sit down and have that conversation so to me him canceling it was a little bit of like poor strategy but also like you know I hate the fact that he probably thinks that I intentionally put him on a podcast with a couple of different black people to try to make him look bad which was not my thought process at all.

52:06I just did the interview with him. Go watch that interview. Super high energy, positive, amazing interview. I was like blown away by him and thought like this kid has crazy star power. Just come pop in on the Tuesday show for a little bit or whatever. Didn't think at all that like, oh, it's going to draw a lot of attention to this shit from back in the day. No, no, it wasn't us. It wasn't me or Ant. It wasn't him upon like greeting each other. It was after he left and we didn't, we don't know his music, him or his hood, and then they said that he dissed the black people. That's what it was. And we heard it later.

52:37It was a backlash. It wasn't the moment itself. The thing is this, though, bro. It got a little intense at the end, too, when he was dipping. Yeah, I mean, he banged. That was a great moment. He got dual. For sure. That shit is regular. That's how you know people don't be around. Everybody want to be hood and be in the hood, and that shit was regular bro i really didn't it was really funny to me like that's what that's that's that's what young dudes do like like like when i was his age like you asked me where i'm from i'm gonna say 83rd street with some emphasis like i'm gonna bang my set with emphasis i didn't take no offense to it because we not enemies and he already introduced himself beforehand shook my hand i asked him where he from he like compton i'm like what hood and compton should he bang this hood I think that obviously we knew it didn't feel crazy at the moment but the people watching it to them it's like it don't matter about who watches it it don't matter with everything else y 'all allow the people that's not a part of the situation to control the narrative I really never even care about it even to the content creators that was coming out like oh Munchie B and they're in the room with a dude that's at the hard ER bro I don't know this dude never seen this dude a day in my life first time me ever seeing him I'm at the pool table shooting pool with the homie Adam walk out the room right here with him and you know what I'm saying and I as I'm shooting pool I hear him get asked if he wanna come on pod with us and he like oh yeah okay for a little bit so like I never knew nothing about dudes so you know what I'm saying like I don't really care what people get caught up in cause like I'm not gonna let you control my narrative definitely was something that I don't know about.

54:18My thing is Tomas said to me bro we had this opportunity though and you canceled and you're supposed to reschedule and you never didn't I mean you never did and it's been a lot of time it don't got to be like you either I felt like you know if they did a podcast on some other platform and sat them down with some like actually you are probably the most logical person since you were in the room or whatever but you know anyone who you know could speak authoritatively about how they feel about that video of him going around because if he sits down with one black LA dude and talks about that shit for an hour, it's a lot harder to bring it up after that because it's like, man, he already sat down with some reputable dudes and talked about it and was real open about it and stuff.

55:02Then you can't really say that much after that. Yeah, like he made like whatever his public apology and announcement was like for me, people get too sensitive like as far as like gang members, like if you a brown gang member or you a black gang member, man, you and said the derogatory word. Hell yeah. Like, I'm been on a county jail bus with these dudes. We can't get through each other through the cage. We spitting back on each other back and forth and saying derogatory terms. So when I seen, even I seen that, like I said, I didn't know him. I was just kind of like, okay, like, you know what I'm saying?

55:38Then just like, you know, you furthermore here, you know what I'm saying? Why I was said, like, we act like this type of stuff don't exist. Like, you know, but, yeah, all right, shit, I'm not getting caught up in all that, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like he made his apology Like shit, except his apology Like what I'm not about to do is try to Critique somebody's apology Was it sincere? Was it not? No Like he said it Like you know you wouldn't use the word and said it before Like let's get on with this shit I wasn't critiquing no apology at no point Period, like all the people that was calling us out Like I ain't talking about you But the thing is Say it to me This opportunity has been and that's the last time I'm going to say that and then how your people reach out to no jumper thank god I wasn't in the public eye when I was 12 who knows who the fuck I said I was saying all kinds of crazy shit 10 minutes ago I'm not like a hard hard type of guy we know we know what kind you are all he really got to say is listen man I grew up in Compton we were beefing with like every black hood like we're surrounded by black hoods and we beefing with all of them at a certain point you know we were saying some shit that I ain't never heard of no bloods and beefing with them dudes yeah I think they beefed with but that's good enough we had beef with a ton of black gangs I was saying it I was young as fuck even though it was like 3 years ago or whatever and just be like listen I don't say that shit anymore like I don't got a problem with black people I was just talking about my ops now I've been to more shit I be around black people all the time now it's cool I don't got no problem I feel like people understand that when you're a 15-year-old burnt-out gang member, you're going to be saying all kinds of stupid shit.

57:20Dudes like this are not that shocked by that. They just want to hear you say the right thing. I'm like, yeah, that's not what I'm really on. That's how I was when I was young. Just reach out to NoJumper, the same people you've been talking to, and then set it up. But then I want to holler at you, P-Face. Have dialogue. I think that would be dope. Don't lie to my whole who over-saying me. Man, I fear don't live here. I don't care about nobody to all that blind shit. go out the window nigga just like your clothes when your bitch kick you out nigga stop playing with me so wait were you did you guys have the interview set up before the Giono thing happened where you told Giono to it was on his way but you know it be a little out oh we're supposed to do it the same day right no not the same day it was like you know what I'm saying it was set up then his shit was coming after that I see what happened but then when it got cancelled you know what I'm saying and we're going to reschedule.

58:15I already knew it wasn't a double back. He might have thought that, oh, this is going to be awesome janky shit. You said to me then. Come on, bro. If you feel it's going to be on some janky shit, just be a man. He could have just been like, oh, no, man. I don't want to do the interview because of this. Or we're going to be on some man shit because I want to say, even Adam asked me if I want to do an interview with him. you know what I'm saying before Munchie like you asked me like I remember like hey you um you know want to sit down with P-Face and I was just like nah I ain't tripping like I don't you know I want to sit down with him and question him over this situation like he already put his apology out like because I would have felt like I was doing it for it for uh YouTube like you feel me like no I would like like gotta be coming like from a genuine place I'm not never trying to just sit down with nobody on a personal matter that people would suffer it over and make content so it was just like that so I was just like nah I really nah I don't want to sit down ain't no beef or nothing but you know he already made his apology let that be that you know I don't want to sit down for YouTube you know what I'm saying but you know but I genuinely feel he don't feel that way when he like when he said yeah you might have seen something different you got your feelings no no I'm saying I'm talking when he used like the effed up words I think he don't really feel that way today you know what I'm saying that's why I came in with a clear mind like oh we about to sit down with P face you know what I'm saying and then he cancelled though based on what I said maybe a week or two before yeah that makes sense I just hope that like there's not a looming OTR no jumper like blacklist in the sense of like they had Lefty come on the platform he starts running keep in mind with Lefty we were super fucking nice to him wanted to really do more content blow him up etc he started talking shit right away basically unleashed like a year plus of no jumper as a as a media company shitting on him with p face he did an interview it's a great interview and then this one incident happens on no jumper show it kind of unleashes like you know a bunch of negativity or whatever it's like you know i i think p face in comparison to lefty lefty was talking crazy well also but he i think p face handled it pretty well all things considered especially being that he's much younger probably not on math like lefty which is probably a big difference in terms of how they handled it but i'm sure i feel like if lefty could go back he probably now that he's allegedly sober or whatever realizes that he wasn't doing himself any favors by coming in the game and just making a bunch of enemies immediately yeah they're both otr otr no no i didn't call slack behind lefty like because because i i seen things lefty way and the black people got at me.

1:00:59Oh, as far as the whole not wanting to bring a black girl home. His baby having a black baby daddy or whatever, whatever. Man, as black people are, grandmas aren't moms say that also, bro. But I just think certain people need to stay away from certain subjects because they don't want to be received right coming from, you know, lefty don't really know how to.

1:01:21It's not going to be a black guy. When every time that we talk to a black prostitute in Los Angeles, they tell us that they don't sell pussy to black guys. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's because who they selling. More than likely, they selling pussy for a black dude. And the black dude is telling him to stay away from black other black man. That's a good point. That's not the reason why they ever say it. They always just act like black dudes are crazy and scary. Anybody you talk to is fake prostitutes. It feels crazy, but that's why I've had a couple different girls sit here on site. Anybody picking them up on the blade.

1:01:52I just seen a girl the other day, you know what I'm saying, come by the shopping center, masking, you know what I'm saying, stabbed her ass. You feel me? So it's like they think like human beings, everybody have to not like, ain't no black dude doing no mass murder shit. He might try to take some free coochie, but like shit, it's other motherfuckers, they stabbing you and macing your ass. Hey Adam, the majority of the pimps, uh, 97%, 98 % of them is black, right? So if I'm a black nigga, I'm trying to act like I'm trying to buy some pom-pom. I'm like, hey woman, she in the car. I hit the locks on her.

1:02:23I start popping her on pinnacle and pull off with her. I'm a pinnacle. Because that's what I was asking Nova about. That's what it be. And she was like, we ain't selling pussy to no black guys. She don't know what she's talking about. I'm like, whoa, what the fuck? I heard it and I hear her and I know she never sold nothing for nobody. Because she's at the instructions. No, she's not. No, I'm saying like, at some point of time for her to have that mind frame. She's under instructions because a renegade bitch gonna get her money. Period. She gonna sell coochie to whoever she sell coochie to. It's a vibe.

1:02:54Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if a bitch telling you I don't sell coochie to somebody, excuse me, not bitch, because that's a young girl, but if somebody telling you that they don't sell pussy to a black dude and she's an African American woman and she's whore, more than likely she's under instructions. But see, but see, but if they is selling a little poo-poo to a black dude. He a regular. You know what I'm saying? And a harmless dude. He's not like a bang-down. No, he's a regular and she's familiar with him. And no, he's not trying to pimp on her or rob her or take her money or take her little snacks from her.

1:03:28I asked her if they sell pussy to Indian guys and I couldn't really get a straight answer. I don't care what you ask. Nova, Nova, the shit don't even count. She's a kid. We gotta talk about Nova though because basically like Wack played a clip for me on the Adam and Wack show and I guess the clip's been going around to other people shout out to loves drinking a biggie and uh basically like the gist of it is is that they have audio of this one interview that nova was doing or a recorded phone call or some shit where she was basically saying that her mom tania was putting her on game telling her the rules basically like kind of changed people's perspective in the sense of like oh shit maybe Tania was grooming her the one who groomed her for this lifestyle now the other side of that is and kind of like the version that Tania put forth is like no I didn't get her into it but if she is going to do it I'm going to give her advice on how to move out here I need to hear that because that sounds like grooming to me Tania lost so I don't know I should go groom or guide anybody but I would like I would let her hear that I guess also as far as like the otr thing i am glad that there's that you and soul is like seeing each other and it was cool and there's been positive because i've been trying to bridge that adam said that yeah oh he said off the record because i didn't hear that right now no i said it a little bit ago yeah he said y 'all seen each other you didn't say it was good watch oh yeah it was cool okay yeah he did say that we needed a fade but i felt like that's not good vibe that's what i'm All he said, he said they seen each other.

1:05:06Did he say with a smile on his face? I don't know. I was in the middle of taking like a million fan photos at once when I seen them. So I kind of like didn't 100 % peep like to what extent he was joking about saying that he needed a fade. Like obviously I could tell he didn't want to fade right then and there. But I don't know if it was like a hostile one. It ain't happening. Y 'all seen each other. So you'll take it as it's all good. to me I always assume that it's all good because I don't think I ever say anything bad about Solas I don't know why he would be mad like if anything I feel like a lot of the stuff that I said about Lefty is stuff that he probably looks at now and he's like you had a point and the last interaction that I mean per my understanding that y 'all had is when we all were on based on in your office not too long ago and it was totally chill and I did see yesterday the Yotes were they're like there's still there's certain fools that are still otr that are upset oh they're otr yeah yeah you know they've been cloud chasing for years and you restarted i'm not talking about them anymore but damn they they stay using me as the stimulus package like every piece of media they do they gotta talk about me like what the all i ever did was tell whack to stop bringing them up unnecessarily because every time we'd be talking about some mexican hip-hop or whatever you just bring them up i'm like bro why do you keep bringing exactly i'm like why you keep bringing up irrelevant shit no offense well he was managing them wasn't like mac he signed them at one point and then it wasn't working so he let them out the contract and then now the coyotes yeah hey man i never heard that time man he said the stimulus pack was somebody got the stimulus pack off me man as a content creator listen this is not my first time seeing this but but a lot of times like when an artist like i mean they'll just invent something out of thin air shout out to Ruchi, I know that's your boy Munchie, but Ruchi did an interview with Duno and Gina many years ago and I wasn't there.

1:06:58I wasn't supposed to be there. I didn't even know they were doing the fucking interview. And then he goes around telling everybody like, well, Adam, duck this interview. No, no, no. Nobody ever told you I was going to... No, no, no, no. Ruchi didn't say you ducked it. He did. He used me for his whole promo. Hold on, hold on. It's a coinkydink that he had two different no jumper things and you wasn't there. and guess what this whole angle with draco thing going on and you just absent it's a it's a cold coinkie bank so before draco died yeah that's how long ago this was i think draco was still locked up before and after bro it was before it was before and after and even if he was alive bro it's the draco thing going on and that's my thing though is it's like i i don't care if you're gonna like tell true stories about me as part of like what you talk about in interviews because that's fine.

1:07:48But when you make up something and act like I don't think it was intentionally made up. But the thing is, is that I told him the real version of the story and then he still kept having the made up version on various podcasts, which I understand you need something to talk about in interviews, but it's like when you lie, I just that's something that I just don't respect. He didn't lie. I think y 'all on different pages. But there's always been like Englewood people coming over here and getting hella support, like even just like... I was hanging out around Ruchi when he was still cool with Draco.

1:08:18Back in the old Shoreline days, we were around each other and stuff. That's part of why I picked 2017. Shike's been here a gang of times. That's why it pissed me off, too. We were actually really cool. You're telling fairy tales about me for promo. I didn't know what Sting Team was in 2017. That's what I'm saying. All the little drama started later. This is before that, yeah. Or at least before any of us knew about it. I'm lying. It wasn't later. I'm lying. No, I'm lying. Go ahead. There's been a lot of... What's his name? Bossman Quan there's like smaller artists from Englewood too that are dope like there's been a lot of support for Englewood artists over here even during the whatever Draco controversy Englewood not complaining bro this not about the who was up next type campaign I'm not Gumby bro I'm not complaining bro I don't take it like that but just to clarify and the whole thing too is that it's like listen I just want to make something totally clear I don't give a fuck where any of y 'all are from I'm interested for the content's sake but Munchie's from Inglewood and is from Inglewood, don't care suppose it's a neighborhood platform where I'm doing a podcast every week with a guy from Inglewood a guy from A-Trey, all kinds of hoovers on the platform, I don't give a fuck where anybody's from and I hate that narrative and it's one of the most enduring narratives that has absolutely nothing as a basis for it but you were banging A &H and your shit in New Hampshire no it was in New Hampshire You got your New Hampshire neighborhood mixed up.

1:09:46603, baby. 603, baby. You a different NH, but you NH, though. I can do a 603 with my fingers. I didn't even know I could. I could do it right now. My initials are NH. See? You too. You're in trouble. I got to find the clip right here. He holds his phone up and plays the... I think this is... No. No, no, no. Boy, no way. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. I found the timestamp on my phone so I could play this. And giving them advice on Pimbin. Even this last time I was with her, I'm on the phone with a trick. I'm telling him, like, okay, yeah. Come. I'm like, come here, because we was in the 40s or whatever.

1:10:28I'm like, come here. And she's like, why are you talking to the trick like that? Like, call him Dave or something. And she's like, I'm not even trying to get in competition with you, but I'm just telling you, that's how you talk to a trick. I'm like, mom, that's not how I approached him. and this is not how the relationship is. So I'm not finna call him babe and all that. He probably gonna think I'm trying to set him up. Bro, what is the difference between her soft white underbelly interview? Wait, that's from the interview? Oh, I'm thinking that that's like a recorded call or something. She was talking about that.

1:10:57She had a conversation. I know I seen this and if I'm not mistaken, it was from the soft white underbelly. It was a little clip of her talking, talking about how her and her mama be in competition. Her mama be in competition with her. And I I heard this before. So my response was, okay, if you're a mom and you get your daughter into prostitution intentionally, obviously that is horrible. But if you're a mom who has been in the streets and your daughter gets into this and you feel like you can't do anything to stop her, is it then wrong or inappropriate for you to give her advice on how to move once she has already made that decision?

1:11:37Now, I don't think it's fair to be like assuming that of your daughter when she's 15. I think that's the process of you trying to get her to stop should still probably be the primary focus, especially. There's no reason why she should be encouraging that behavior in any capacity. But now that clip, which, again, I don't really know how old that is, but that's making a lot of people think like, oh, Tania is not an unwilling participant in this. In fact, she probably has been teaching her how to work on her sales pitch for all these years. And to be fair, like, Tania might not even be aware internally of how janky what she's doing is.

1:12:17It could be just, and I'm not trying to give her some bail. What you about to say ain't gonna make no sense, bro. My first introduction into her was that clip, that whack play. Oh, okay. Nova. Like, me first hearing about her and hearing of her, like, first seeing her and hearing her was that clip, that whack play. okay i never heard that yeah that's so yeah i mean like but at the end of the day if it's your if it's your daughter obviously like you're gonna be there's no okay like let's say so when you say just make sure you careful what you're saying bro no yeah i'm about to say some dumb shit i ain't gonna crap no go ahead let's let him hang himself say it there's no way that you could ever make it cool or like oh even if you're gonna be in the lifestyle i'm gonna show you the good way to do it there no that doesn't work in this context whatsoever there's no there's no good way to be a child prostitute all right let's put it like this if you're a crackhead and you got a baby and one day they grow up they're 15 and you realize they're smoking crack do you pull out every single last stop to get them off of the crack or do you say hey well it's important and then you keep your pipe clean.

1:13:30So I'm going to get you some Brillo and some fucking, I don't know how you clean a pipe, but I'm going to get you some supplies. And also, you should buy crack at this spot, but don't go to this spot because they got some bunk-ass crack. And, I mean, you tell me. I don't know. Realistically. Same question for y 'all, but about sliding. Realistically, it would be, it was like, you're not going to be 15 smoking crack. Your first, what's going to happen is, you're going to catch your kids. He said, you'll be 15. You know the timetable. most likely you're not bro like yeah but like like really like the first time before it gets to that point you're gonna find your kid smoking weed probably and you're gonna find your kid maybe trying to drink probably and things like that maybe trying to steal some pills and when you demonize it and put too much like emphasis on going against it yeah that could you you do kind of have to be somewhat understanding and tolerant towards that or else you're gonna foster them to want to do it even more so however at the same time you can't fully make you don't want to be like the cool mom that allows all the kids to party at the house and then all of a sudden you feel me like police are showing up and now you're getting caught up for contributing to the delinquency of a minor which for sure we've like known parents over the years who they were the cool parent one kid overdoses in your house boom this is a weird conversation hey as far as gay ain't go more so than the drug thing or the whole thing you're going to have a father and son that's from the same hood so this dad might be big so and so and this son might be little so and so and maybe the nephew is baby so and so it might go like that you're outside he stepped outside I'm about to keep an eye on you to make sure you don't get too far out like you're from over here now type thing but I can't really compare that to Hoenn and your daughter about to Sell some ass you know what I'm saying That kind of hit different Because okay okay It's different things like gang banging Like if you're a dad and you took your 15 year old Son on a drill I mean what is that ultimately that's like you Doing a revenge thing You're standing up for your neighbor or your friends or whatever I guess but like the prostitution thing Is just like that's a way to make money It's a very deeply fucked up way for a young girl to make it.

1:15:52It's all negative, but look at P &B Rock. The case with them. The son, the broad, and the dad. That's a level of evil from that dad that I think a lot of people are unfamiliar with. I just think parenting. But that's not gay, man. That's Robin. Yeah, parenting. Parenting, though, that's a place of responsibility. I kind of like to answer Adam's question. For me, let's just say the son father thing like hell no like i wouldn't want my son from the hood game banging and i think those situations happen when the father's absent at the picture like in jail now if you a father on the streets and you coach your son to be from the hood and trying to lead them in the game banging like like to me that's that's that's a loser mentality because me like my kids is sports you know i'm saying drill team i'm trying to keep them busy you know i'm saying keep they head you I'm saying in school and all I don't want them doing none Of this shit that I did just like I always Say when I was young the way that My daddy parenting He got from his father but I knew as a kid The shit that he was doing to me I knew When I was gonna be a parent That I wasn't gonna do that shit so It's just like like with that like hell Nah you can't show your daughter you can't show your Kid how to be the best game Banger or the best hoe Like man you gotta disassociate yourself With that shit.

1:17:13Hey but guess what People learn from watching cause my dad he kept a ball in my hand and a book in my hand bro and in this heyday he was the biggest blood whatever but like I learned from watching like I appeal to it so you can't always blame the parents cause they don't condone the things you do I don't know why that fish boring daughter is doing porn Adam probably fucked her but this is the thing though but this is the thing but this is like you gotta disassociate yourself like I really think people don't really see and from what she explained that you really don't see Tania disassociating herself with it like when you associate yourself with it that's when you make it like yeah shit I'm like I'm with it it's alright it's on the internet though she's out there though it's hard to avoid bro hey look still as your parent I don't give a fuck what you out there doing like it goes against me as a parent so I gotta disassociate myself with that shit I'm about to be hanging out with you like hey girl like Tania but Tania she know bro I've been a good supporter of her bro and try to look out for her advice wise and all that and she she don't she listened for 48 hours and after that is over I mean I tried to help her though like not in on no sexual nothing like like like she cool and she got a cool personality and she know how to speak and all that and then she just drift off like she gets lost drift off like mentally or drift off like Because her mind thinks her favorite word is viral But see, 80 % of the people Going viral don't benefit from it Everybody else is So if you do some dumb shit, everybody else monetizing Everybody monetizing On the person that's viral She told me she's going to call me in five minutes She lost her Instagram again?

1:19:00Well her original one And her new one But if Tanir keep it real I done looked out for Tanir I ain't talking about no sexual nothing Like really like know what I'm saying like oh you're having her with me we're hitting studios we're knocking out songs and shit like that bro but her attention span is short and I think she's boy crazy I noticed that honestly like because even me like I kind of had like actual conversations with her about her being a part of this podcast and it seemed like she was kind of serious and that she just don't show up don't hit me back it's been months you know I feel like she just doesn't really stay focused on one thing but okay like hypothetical let's say that Tania and her daughter had not done multiple interviews together when she was underage or whatever.

1:19:44Let's say they just popped out together and Tania's whatever, 35, 40 and her daughter's 20 and they're doing mother-daughter soft white underbelly interviews talking about Hoenn but her daughter's 20 so she's an adult. There's a difference there for sure because people are still going to be picking apart with a fine-tooth comb trying to find evidence that you were the one who got her into it. The thing with Tamiya The thing with Tanir, right? She willing to do it, and then she capable of doing it, but she got three kids back-to-back with that steps, with sassy badass, right? And then she went and got a new one.

1:20:23You got a babysitter problem, right? So if she got paid by No Jumper, and then the babysitter package was included in that, and then she could pull up, and that was already set aside, then she'd be good. The babysitter. She'd be like, baby's kids. No, no, no, no. Baby's kids.

1:20:43the last time she came she had the girl holding the baby for and i spanked her down the other girl right right but so so she acknowledged this on camera too yeah yeah whatever she ain't shit but but but like like she she needs some she need a babysitter bro if she had a babysitter package alone whatever deal she got going on whether it's rap singing podcast she'd be all right well she did say that to me is that basically like shit with her daughter wouldn't have gone the way that it went if she hadn't had all these little rugrats for her to be dealing with because she, you know, how are you going to chase after a 13 year old who wants to go be on the blade when you got a two year old that, I mean, I never had a 13 year old, but I had a two year old and I know it's a full time fucking job.

1:21:29Well, my daughter 19 and I got five kids or some shit. I'm going to tell you this and this is the hard truth. If my name was Tania, I would distance myself from, what's the little girl name? Nova? I would distance myself from, no, no, no, forget that. Because she's too far gone, bro. She's going to do what she want to do regardless, bro. You got to let her do her and focus on your other four kids you got. Well, five, because she got her son, the three sassy badass, and a new one. One of the boys is like, I forget how old he is. might be like 16, 17, looks like a fucking grand man damn near. That was crazy.

1:22:10To meet him and realize. Did she have her new kid yet? Did she have the new baby? No, no, no. When they were here, that boy who's like 17 or whatever, he was like watching the baby out there. He's like hanging out with the infant. I thought it was the female that Munchie was talking about. No, no, no. The last time. Her son was out there with the grandparent. The bra came with her twice. No, no, no, no, no, but we wasn't here when she did the thing with Nova. Oh. So the son was there, and the son, she went and got her son from out of state with the grandparent, and the son is back with her. And he's not even 18, huh?

1:22:46He's still like. No, no, he's in high school. But he looked like he. Who's that? That Snoop's son? Snoop, hell no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think his dad from one of the ops, like 40s, 60s, or something like that. Okay, well, speaking of ops, there's no ops, and you won't have to worry about running into the ops if you shop with everything 420 if you're still hitting smoke shops with 2025 you are doing it wrong baby download the everything 420 app and thank me later it's literally your smoke shop delivered everything from bongs to edibles flowers vapes and even shrooms and their mystery boxes are my favorite you pick the category they handle the rest and they even have a Halloween box right now.

1:23:30That's fire. Fast, discreet delivery. Always clutch. Don't forget to use the code NOJUMBER. One word at checkout for a little something off. Hold on. Hold on. Go back on. I don't have any ops. The only op I got is opportunities, bro. No, no, no, no. For real. No, no, no, no. I got Oppenheimer on DVD. No, no, no, no. All I got is opportunities coming, bro. I'm trying to clean up my image. You know what I'm saying? Spike Lee. No, no, no. For real. that's the only ops I got bro I don't beef whoever thinks they dislike me that's good for y 'all bro but I don't have any ops bro I got that wrong whatever can we also just say that I think it's a pretty obvious point that when you're talking about sex with teenagers and like talk about that shit bro damn Mark I'm not trying to be I'm not trying to be a less white underbelly.

1:24:29I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to be baby seal. Y 'all got to check, check game though. You just like lingering on topics. What did you say? I miss it. No, no, no, no. Some motherfucking some kids. No, I'm saying that's objectively worse than a foster. Like doing that as a parent is worse than having your kid be a gangbanger. Having your kid be a prostitute and accepting that is 100 % worse. That's, that's the point I was trying to make. Well, okay. I kind of agree but also like if you're sending your son out to like shoot at the apps and they could literally get a life sentence I mean that's pretty bad and you could take a life that's pretty bad granted like telling your underage daughter to go sell pussy on the street that's fucking bad too but she could like I'm not saying that's what she did but she could snap back into real life and be a normal person at a certain point which if you were killing people I mean I think Nova and the food They're both very bad.

1:25:25Let's just make that clear. When Nova grow up, bro, she's going to have a cold testimony and a story. For real. And then she's going to be able to talk to people. And she's going to be able to set a table and make money off of it, monetize it. Because she's going to have a story, bro, that she, you know what I'm saying, she was misled. What's her name? Aivala. Aivala? Yeah. Aivala. Vanzana. What's her name? Something like that. What's up? The one that's on Oprah Network? Yeah. That ain't going to work. That ain't going to work. That's like sending us to Scared Straight when we was young. That ain't going to work.

1:25:55No, she talked to you. She sat down and talked to you, getting down to the root problem, the deep pain. She ain't been there. She ain't been a prostitute, been out on the street and sold herself. Now, she a woman, multimillionaire, got her own show. So, you know, she ain't been there. She might can get to the root problem. Do you think that if you had done Scared Straight with Fleece Johnson as a young man, that it would have scared you? I would have sucked Fleece Johnson. Oh, my God. Man, what? He probably would have sucked you out and then tear him there. I don't know. Hey, he was in Joe Kentucky, bro.

1:26:23Hold on, hold on. The booty goon. The booty warrior. Adam. I was a teen, bro. I was a teenager beating the shit out of a grown man. I would have socked the shit out of Fleece Johnson. By the time you were 15, 16, he already had like 150 rapes under his belt. He was fucking every dude in that prison. I was in jail for shooting when I was in time of grade. We just listening. We listening to stories. I guarantee he wasn't fucking. He was fucking dudes that was willing to get fucked. Well, that is what he said. Yeah, he actually said it. I shouldn't. Come on, let's keep it real. He said he was not raping.

1:26:51he was just fucking. I don't believe that. Exactly. He was just fucking. Felice came. I would have beat it. I would have smashed my brother. I went crazy. He told me he would sit down. That's the shit you're going to lose your mind over. Somebody come at me like I ain't never been put in that situation. I'm in a cell with somebody and they play some sexual shit, bro. That's my body get their head mashed up in here. I'm going to give Adam his props, bro, on his interviewing skills because you carried that interview well. It wasn't the freaky ass Adam you thought you was going to get like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1:27:23For real. What's your favorite type of lube you use? Talking to a 50-year-old guy. I'm so impressed with Adam that he didn't try to hook up with this 50-year-old fucking convict. I'm going to tell you what's funny though. You're trying to set up a gangbang. He said, you used to have blonde hair, huh? Right? That's what he said. I might have had it. I dyed it. But, you know, I'm happily married.

1:27:52Hey look the nigga Felice said The little things that he does Makes you feel like your booty hole might be in jeopardy That's a violation All the gay jokes that nigga Adam had Went out the window Hey look I'm happily married I've been married I love Lena Hey it was funny as fuck And the nigga was like We used to have he's got blonde hair huh I think I did I might have dyed it if you want to see me with blonde hair you gotta go back like three years ago to see when I dyed my hair blonde for a Halloween costume and like the fact that he just knew about that I'm just like what what the fuck you been digging through my google search results trying to just find all the different looks I had over the years I can joke around about some gay shit when I'm around a bunch of dudes who are not gay but then as soon as you're around a dude who is fucked hella men it's like he basically did this thing where you tell your girl like yo I like that one red dress you got you feel me it's funny cause it's like the first 120 seconds of the interview Adam had to make it clear I'm a heterosexual man I was in this shit oh wait three times beat this shit out of the fleece man he would have tried to come with some bullshit like that terrifying dude I'm not gonna lie terrifying dude that was a good interview though he was terrifying about him telling stories you scared he just said he's terrifying terrifying absolutely terrifying man he's not even a big nigga the fuck are you talking about you better work out just the concept like no homo because I don't even play them games so you I think you kind of feel like he would have tried Fuck yeah.

1:29:46What do you mean? The sandwich. Are you kidding? A lushable. Hey man. Look for people that haven't done extensive amounts of incarceration and shit. That's the number one fear. Let me tell you something. I'm going to get this clear right here bro. Y 'all watch too many movies. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you a question real quick. Go ahead. Because this is how the D.C. dudes get down. You go to the feds. You go to the feds, right? You go to the feds. They put you in a cell with a D.C. dude, and he just whip out the knife on you and tell you, hey, look, blood on my knife or shit on my dick.

1:30:29I'm going to have to die, bro. I'm going to get killed. You feel me? I'm going to bite your head.

1:30:36Or, or, or, or, or. Or, or, or. Or he kills. Either I fight to the death or I wind up like... You ain't gonna pay no money. You want the ass, nigga. You know what he's gonna say? He's gonna be like, thug. He's gonna say, listen, I'll give you booty whenever you want it. Just don't tell the world. Hell no, bro. I've seen you be able to, like, fit in with so many different groups of people. And you don't seem like you really like to raise a stink. You seem like you kind of like to go with the flow. And I feel like that would probably extend to a booty guilt. He's like, hold on, hold on. Let me rap for you.

1:31:07Hold on. No, no, no. Nah, he want to rap his dick. Hey, no, because motherfuckers be thinking the city bad. It's some places badder than, like, L.A. D.C., Alabama. Like, if you fall in a jail and you from, like, a different state, oh, yeah, they're going to try to get up on you. Alabama, Kentucky, like, we're pretty sure. Let's say you're on White Boy and you get locked up in. Playing phone games, all that. Let's say you get locked up in that. Trying to rob you for the commissary, all type of shit. I don't know about Angola, but L.A. County, that don't go down, bro. I can't speak, but L.A. County jail, L.A.

1:31:36jail system, bro, the gay shit is frowned upon. Do what happens? Of course. It's weird niggas everywhere But all that Like we watch movies And all that shit And nigga peeking at you In the shower and shit What the fuck Nah And I don't I don't give a fuck nigga If you got some soap And they drop And they gonna pick it up What the fuck are you talking about Only a weirdo is worried about Dropping the soap And if you pick it up Somebody gonna run up behind them Only a buster or a weirdo Look On some real shit 99 % of people that aren't Like Not dropped the soap For real criminals That is the number one fear of most sane, rational human beings about getting locked up is getting their manhood taken.

1:32:21Why not just be worried about getting beat up first? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm worried about getting lined up. You know what I'm saying? I'm worried about... It's more of a realistic concern. No, no, no, no, I'm saying they talking about, oh, drop the soap. If you drop it, pick that motherfucker up. Bro, the fact that... Just pick it up. The fact that nobody's... My shit hit that floor. That shit stand down there Yeah cause it's contaminated Not because you worried about Yeah that's my soap That's my soap I ain't gonna bend over I ain't picking it up Fresh And it happened fresh from commissary Fresh Dove Bar soap It's so contaminated and dirty down there I'm just like I'm not even touching Right Overstood I'm not even trying to wash it off It's contaminated 10 different, a million different people in the other shower.

1:33:09Again, agree. But I'm saying, these people talking about drop the soap. Oh, yeah, I know what you talking about. Nigga, let me need that soap, nigga. And I'm not worried about the germs and contamination. I'm gonna pick it up. Bro, a real nigga not worried about no way he running up on him. He dropped it. Fuck you talking about? That shit, movie shit. Nigga, they be weird, bro. Them movies were super realistic. Put it out. Man, I watched Oz and fucked myself up when I was a kid. Oz terrified that was like whoa that's what it's like hold on out of BC hold on you gotta be serious out of BC hold on I ain't gonna tell you like 45 seconds bro my mama used to be like she'd leave me at home by myself she's like don't answer the phone or open the door right boom so soon she go I go to the room get to flipping the channels boom I flipped the eyes bro and I regretted it nigga nigga a nigga I done wrong in eyes bro I was devastated nigga on Englewood nigga the next time my mama tried to leave me at home I wasn't with her like nah I'm gonna bounce you know a movie I used to hate that I used to be like I'm like, oh, they did him wrong.

1:34:09Lockdown. Oh! He got raped by graffiti. What the fuck is this? Hey, you like this drawing? You like this little artwork? Is that the nigga from the wood? No, it's the white boy. I think it is. The white boy did it, though, right? Yeah, yeah. Guess what? The dude from the wood that got hit on that scene, he said he cried after that scene. Yeah. He shouldn't have took it. He said he regrets taking that role. And it like psychologically affected him. He got raped in the film. Graffiti kind of looked like Adam. You ever seen the movie The Wood? I don't think so. Lockdown. You gotta go watch Lockdown.

1:34:47That's all homework. Graffiti gotta look like Adam. Ain't that a Master Pia movie? Lockdown? Hell nah. Yeah. Body. Lockdown. Master Pia is in lockdown. Master Pia lockdown. For sure. Yeah, he's one of those little thugs in the jail. For sure. I understand. That might be one of his movies. Hey, Adam, we're gonna give you a list of some homework. The Wood. The wood is great. That's a great film. Hey, look, I'm Big Stacey in the wood. I'm Big Stacey in the wood. It's, um, I'm reading the description. Three old friends, Omar Epps, Taye Diggs, and Richard T. Jones recount memories of their shared childhood in Englewood, California as they prepare for Rowling's wedding to his fiance.

1:35:29When the groom goes missing without a word, Mike and Slim struggle to find their best friend and return him to his impatient bride before the wedding begins. Along the way, they continue to swap stories about lessons learned during their awkward teenage years. I thought that the whole thing was about a debt of blue. He said, man, take that hat off. He's like, wow, it's blue. It's North Carolina blue. They said, what up? Take that shit off. Fast. Like, that's the worst kind of blue. We've referenced that in the chat or in our group chat multiple times, too, so I think that it would be good if Adam saw it.

1:36:04I seen Baby Boy like three years ago. I think I'm ready for another hood flick. Lock down, man. Does it count as a hood flick? Yeah, yeah. The wood's a hood flick. It's not like... People always are like, oh, you ain't seen all these black movies. So that's where if you don't fuck with black people, it's like, no, I just don't watch movies. I want to get better. Menace of Society in the Wood is my favorite movie. Menace is all shit. I should re-watch South Central. There's just a movie called that? Yeah. No, I don't think I saw that. South Central, the Hoover's Hoover, dude, you're going to think you saw Gumby.

1:36:37He be, the Hoover is going to be an ugly nigga. Deuce here. Deuce here. That's going to be an ugly nigga. Deuce here. Deuce here. Deuce here. You're going to think you seen Gumby. Yeah, Gumby. His mouth's so fucked up. Oh, yeah. Yo, this is what you're talking about. There's an Art of Dialogue clip called I Cried After Doing the Scene, Giving a Man Head in Lockdown. It's DeAndre Bonds. Yeah. Okay, that guy. Yeah, graffiti made him suck his dick. I got to watch the game. I hate it. I'm like, I'm looking at that shit like, man, that That scene didn't make sense to me He has a Vlad clip about it with 3 million views Man, would I have to do that?

1:37:09It would have went so crazy I'm looking at this shit, I'm like, how did he even take the scene? That's like a different state though You gotta watch Colors I seen Colors I watched Colors a couple months ago I just knew it wasn't right Hold on, hold on, what Mike? What is it? Colors and South Central I seen Colors, I didn't even know that a movie was called South Central But I know the dude from East Coast. He got a gang of the Crip actors gathered in that movie. He was in there also. They did the graffiti, picked out all the wardrobe with the, what was it? That was in what? It was called Warriors?

1:37:43Colors. Okay. I have another topic that I would like to raise now that we're an hour and 45 minutes into the show, and I normally just kind of go crazy in the beginning and talk about whatever we feel like talking about. Before I even do that, I'm just going to say thanks to Everything420 for keeping us going it's like amazon for all the low-key sesh essentials from vapes to edibles their app makes it stupid easy to gear up for your next sesh fast shipping super discreet and always on the low low just use code no jumper one word for that little bonus what are you doing i'm looking for like that wax yeah i'm looking for edibles because i'm not smoking if you hadn't noticed why are you not smoking because i was just in the hospital for an accident oh well that makes a lot of sense.

1:38:24Hey, look. Next Tuesday, right? I go to Atlanta. Friday, I come back Monday. Be back to work for Tuesday. Tuesday, my birthday, though, right? Oh, sick. What are you going on? We got a party. Have some 420. Know what I'm saying? Know what I'm saying? Shut up. Know what I'm saying? What, you trying to get high? I'm going to get high. I'm going to get high. I'm going to have you something right, man. Yeah. Little Girl Scout. Yeah. I smoke Girl Scout cookies. I'm coming back for my birthday. The bat signal. I've been smoking a lot of Girl Scouts Next Tuesday show, my birthday We going up Big booty six and bust her pussy and asshole Open, free crib mac We got one right here, Tania How you now?

1:39:05What's up? How you doing? Okay, we've been talking about you on the podcast a little bit I thought it was only right if we gave you An opportunity to speak for yourself Now Adam, don't play with me What's that? What do I gotta clear up? Alright, so there's a clip that WAC played on the podcast the other day of your daughter basically describing you, giving her advice on how to treat a trick, et cetera. And it's really done a lot to throw a fuel on the flames of the grooming conversation. And I just wanted to get your thoughts on that. Like, where is the grooming end? And does the just like helping your daughter prepare for her new job?

1:39:49Like, where do these things collide from your perspective? Let me tell you what it is. So when you interviewed us, you clearly, everybody who always asks my daughter from you, from Mark, Softline Underbelly, they always try to get her to basically say that I'm the reason why she's doing what she's doing. She's a cloud chaser, for one, and she knows this. She knows that she has to use her mother's name most of the time. Like, most of her viral clips and shit is, oh, my mom, my mom, my mom, my mom, because she noticed that the people is always bringing me up. She said her name don't even go viral like that.

1:40:23It says Tania's daughter because at this point, AI done captured people talking about the fucking mama so much, which is me. So it's only right for her to cloud chase and be like, yeah, my mom, my mom, because she knows what's going to get her numbers to go up. I mean, it's like the Internet done groomed her at this point because everybody is such cheerleaders and so disinfatuated with this little bitty ass fucking girl that came out of my coochie. So it's like, damn, you know, at this point, you guys going to believe whatever y 'all going to believe. You sound like you're beefing with her right now.

1:40:55No, he'll not. That didn't sound positive at all. Yeah. You didn't call your daughter. You said this little ass girl who fell out my couch. Yeah. This is a crazy way to refer to your daughter. She's still a little girl. So I'll be forgetting. We know that's the whole problem. Yeah. The whole problem is she's not like 18 or over. She's a little girl. So we have to keep on reminding ourselves because the topic be just so inappropriate. But, you know, this whole world is inappropriate. So, long story short, that was cloud chasing. She had to say that because it sounded believable. Like, they give her ideas.

1:41:28Like, she wouldn't have never even had as much ideas as she had if it wasn't for, like, the comments. Like, giving her so much, like, intel. She's like, damn, I didn't even know this about my mama. But, okay, but what do y 'all got to say? They don't even know. So everybody gets confused and I understand. But the clip, the clip that I got played didn't really sound like she was cloud chasing. It sounded like she was just kind of talking about life. And she was like, Oh yeah. My mom told me with the trick, calling babe, do this, that. And so then people start painting the picture of like, Oh, okay.

1:41:59This is the nature of the relationship. Mom is strategizing about how to profit maximize. But you asked her yourself, where'd you get this from? And she said, my homegirl. So anyways, her homegirl, it doesn't have a name, but I do. so she can say my name and it could be a whole other story. It's like writing a book. You don't say the names, you make up names, but it really be somebody real life. So she just put me on there. And at the end of the day, we told her about that. And she said, Mom, that's just an interview. I'd just be lying. We literally said that because we seen that clip circulated.

1:42:31And of course, we got family members that's like, Samir, have you seen? I'm like, yeah, I've seen it. So I called her, I swear to God. I called her with my best friend, Quanee, on the phone on 3Way. and she said, Mom, I was just saying whatever. I was just saying whatever. I say whatever on these interviews. Because I don't even be there. Let me be right there. You're not going to say all that shit. I don't want to talk to this voice. I do not want to talk to this voice. Damn, what do I do? I do something? I do not. Who is that talking? That's the who's who's. Hell no, fuck the who's. No, it is not.

1:43:09Oh, I fuck with the who's who's, but who's this? No, it's the real who's who's. You don't for sure want to talk to me. Now, keep going. Oh, okay. Oh, that's Munchie. Who else you thought it was? Oh, but the way he got him there, I don't know. Who the fuck? Okay, what's up, Munchie B? What's that? No, no, no. I'm about to say the friend you're talking about is one of the twins that used to live next door to me? No, no. That's Monty and them. Uh-uh. All right. Oh, but what you talking about? The one who came throughout? Yeah. Monty? The one that used to live next door to me? exactly they was from Palmdale and all that right and they came to LA they got punched out too that's how it goes these girls come to LA man who you thought I was bro I don't know I don't call my shit back hey oh wait my bad

1:44:05the fuck I'm meeting with somebody I'm like wait a minute what Okay, so look. Where the fuck are you going? Yeah. So yeah, Adam, stop trying to restart this shit up. Because at this point, good thing I'm a mama who got this paper trail bin doing all this shit. Because if I lift it up to the internet, the way motherfuckers just be trying to paint shit, they will try to have a bitch in jail. And guess what? Ask her who she thought I was. We kind of do want the underage prostitutes in jail, right? Or at least protection. You don't have a mama. Talking about the mama grooming the goddamn child. It started from a runaway.

1:44:38Hey, Tania, who you thought I was? Oh, man. Who that boy? Yes. Oh, no, no, that's out. Who's the boy? It don't matter. Real quick. I'll catch you on real quick. It don't matter. His name don't even matter. Exactly. Tania, is there anything that you feel like you could do to, like, help protect your daughter from this lifestyle or get her away from it? Tania. so basically right all right i just moved right i just moved i got me a bomb little place or whatever and it's out of la and basically it's a nice environment and everything right i let my daughter know and i'm like you know you know come home like you're doing too much she's like no no i got it mom i want to show you that it's like this these young kids they want to show the parents and i think the only accountability that i do take for sure is that that's it says in the bible your kids will have the karma from what you do basically like having this lifestyle it was so flashy and she's kind of like i want to have that too no matter how much i say it's not good oh the industry is this way this way she's like i just want to see for myself there's nothing nobody can do when somebody mine is made up so many people think that they could change these figure-all prostitutes even though my daughter's not on figure-all is it true that ATM Richie's the one who first put her on the track hell no we never heard of him he's not even a pimp I've seen people trying to get that narrative up I didn't think so I just wanted to double check it's not true she said it out she said it out the horse's mouth she was with a girl you know like when I hung around friends whatever my friends did I was doing too oh we doing checks oh we doing whatever was in come on she's a teenager so she's seen somebody doing something and it looked really easy and she's like oh i'm a cute girl and that's that didn't have nothing to do with the mama i mean why why would i do that knowing what type of lifestyle so say something happened to my daughter how do you think i would feel if i'm the one who quote unquote groomed her what the fuck so if something was to happen to her i would feel some type of way like it's my fault i'm not about to be having no guilty conscience on me I got a house warmer gift for you.

1:47:02Yeah, you do? All right. Eight inches long. Her next child. Wait, yo. Tania, yo, I have a question. It feels like it's been enough time. You're probably about to get pregnant again. It's about that time. I hope not. That baby don't look like me. I think I'm ovulating right now. Oh shit, Munchie, you gotta get over there Shoot the club up I told y 'all I got a perspective Y 'all believe me She's so fertile that it might even Bypass it Yeah, bypass it

1:47:41Signs say I can't have kids I appreciate you, Tania Thanks for the update Alright

1:47:50That didn't do anything to help me think differently about the situation for being completely honest. She thought I was sassy badass. That's brazen. Oh my god. What? I don't like that voice. If he lived down the street and we could pod with him whenever we wanted, this would be an out of control podcast. Oh man. He got mental health problems, bro. Don't we all? Nah, hell nah. Not compared to him. You only got mental health? I got... Did he get you some? He get me what, some pussy? No, some mental health. Oh. Hey, no, no, I know exactly what's wrong with me. The people that got problems, they don't know what's wrong with them.

1:48:28What's your diagnosis? Like, if you went to a shrink, what do you think they would tell you? As far as women, I got trust issues. I got commitment problems. And I got an anger problem. You know what I'm saying? But I didn't control my anger problem. Like, I know how to, like, kick back and then sit on it. And then, you know what I'm saying? It kind of just sounds like a regular dude to me. I think I'm straight. I'm telling you, look, look, look, I have some anger problem. I might sit on it, and I might, the homie that got a more level mind than me, I might be like, hey, am I tripping? Or did this nigga just say, you know what I'm saying?

1:49:04Because at first I was impulsive. But guess what? Being blind might help me because I can't just bounce up. You know what I'm saying? Because it would have been problems. That made you, like, not as aggressive as you were before. Not aggressive. it's like I just can't get to it like I want to. I'm just going to grab my keys to watch this. You know what I'm saying? Do you ever feel like you have PTSD from like I don't got PTSD at all. The hurt you've inflicted on other people at times in your life? No, no, no, no. I don't got PTSD, bro. Because I'm not a paranoid person. They think no jumper is a dangerous place.

1:49:41I've never been up here paranoid or nervous. Do you ever feel haunted? I come by myself. I come with me and one bitch. I come with me some homies or I come with me and a homie I'm not tripping I'm not worried about I don't I done had like dreams and woke up like you know what I'm saying and caught myself or a bitch looking like nigga you feel me I done swung on bitches in my dream before and shit like that but when I wake up I'm not a paranoid person I pray about everything worry about nothing I'm not tripping on nobody and that song whoever they try to approach me and think what they want to think.

1:50:19I think I got some PTSD from earlier today. What happened? Well, so I was shooting a scene with another guy and a girl and the guy asked me like are you down for double blowjob? And my jaw dropped. I never heard of that. Basically it's where you both put your dick in the girl's mouth at the same time. So it ain't two bitches sucking your dick at one time. No, one mouth two dicks. I told the guy, I'm like listen I'm from the set and the big homies the big homies ain't cool with that one I'll be getting calls all night and all morning for sure I got a head from two females at one time that is okay that ain't got nothing we talking about having yo John against somebody else John in the mouth hey no sir no sir my heat though voice.

1:51:10And he's a brother and I'm not. So I felt kind of bad. I'm like, normally I would figure up around right people. He's from England. So yeah, he's a little different. Saying that with a little different. It's like a lot of dudes who get into porn are just like the horniest dudes you ever met. They're down for all this crazy shit. He sound like Trapped Lord Ross. Kind of, yeah. He's a cool guy, but like, yeah. Nah, bro. That means that literally the dicks have to touch. That's the only thing. What do you mean? Yo, dick. She's going back and forth. If she's trying to suck two dicks at one time, I mean, how are you going to do that?

1:51:49Normally it's like one after the other. It's like a lie. If you're trying to suck two dicks at one time. He did it before. How are you going to do that? Don't argue with him. He did it. Right? I have not experienced a double blood job. You sure? I'm very positive. Yo, tip ain't touched nobody else, tip? Not as of yet. Not as of yet. I have no plans on doing it. So you didn't do the pyramid? Have I ever Eiffel Towered a bitch? Yeah, I have Eiffel Towered a bitch. Pyramid. What's a pyramid? The tips touching. Hell no. The pyramid's crazy. I've been in the bitch's mouth while the homies fucking before.

1:52:28We all done did that. We were flipping her. That's like regular in high school. High school, I did that as an adult. that's what I'm saying like game over yeah I love a good flip yeah we ain't doing the two and the same mouth at the same time you back there I'm up here bro that's how that's going you pop the trunk I'm under the hood did that make the entire scene just kind of like is that in the back of your mind then like fuck this fool's down for no because that's normal like really all that's one thing I realized is like most of the porn dudes are like freakier than me hey do you know how Most of the porn dudes are freakier than me.

1:53:06They're down for the down. They do this for a living. And granted, if I did it for a living, maybe I'd be a little bit more open-minded about everything I'm going to do. It's got to be some dudes that's in porn that's doing it for a living that's not doing a double blowjob mouth thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. But that's one thing. In the porn world is that once you have really cemented yourself as a goat, they don't really shoot with other guys anymore. They just do one-on-ones. Okay. Hey, when I fucked a girl that fucked Brian Pumper, I was 18. I thought I was the man. Like, nigga, me and a porn star fucked the same dick.

1:53:39You were. You were right. What? I'm like, what? You know I asked. I don't do this shit. I'm like, who fucked better? What did she say? Me? Oh, she might have been lying. But it was Brian Pumper. She was like, hey, she sounded convincing. I want to believe it, so let me believe it. Did she do a scene with him, or did she just like? No, no, no. It was a casual fuck. Okay, okay. Brian Palmer used to come to the studio on Market Street in the hood like downtown Englewood and the Nine Foles and he used to take forever to do a verse. Really? He's like, I'll be fucking it up. I'll be heating it up. I've listened to so many of his songs and they're all so bad.

1:54:18Bro, when you come out it's a computer. Everybody's like, you want to see my video? So he's like, yeah. We all crying around. We did some music video. It ain't nothing but him fucking and it flashed him rapping. to him beating some pussy down, him rapping. I'm like, this ain't no fucking video. Like, what the fuck? You just put your music behind, nigga. You doing the performance scene, and then you fucking something. But he used to take an hour to do a verse. Talking about, I'm fucking it up, and I'll be beating it. I'm like, you Louis Banks looking ass, nigga. We don't hurry up and get up out of there.

1:54:48If he see this, he gonna know, bro. He used to go to that, the homie studio, nigga, nigga, nigga, the homie Hussle, nigga, Jay Hussle, on Market Street in Englewood, bro. and it used to take forever. We used to be hot. Nigga, the gangbangers would be right there and whoop your ass like, bro, is he done? How many times are you going to say you fucking it up, you beating it up? I'm going to fucking it up. Beating it up. All right, yo, so let's get into some actual topics here. This is one that's been going kind of crazy. So basically, there's a clip of Vlad. I guess I'll just play this clip of Vlad real quick and then we can get G Herbo's reaction.

1:55:21Dude, Herbo went. I was talking to his people by doing an interview and ultimately he passed, but he did some podcast that got 678 views wow that's 678 thousand 678 less than a thousand views he spent an hour on this podcast but he wouldn't do vlad tv but vlad tv was interviewing him over and over again on his come up but once he gets to a certain level well he don't want to vlad tv anymore because vlad tv's the feds now and whatever i feel like that's lame okay so uh herbo leaves a comment responding and this is what he said vlad you didn't do shit for me like nothing at all you think the interviews that we did in the past is what blew me up you got to be shitting me you call me every time not the other way around i obviously had some kind of motion i didn't even know who the fuck you were when i first did an interview i promise i wasn't even in the loop back then i just showed up wherever my team told me to and I'll do another podcast and get two views I do what I want to do that's the exact reason why I'm not pulling up on your goofy ass because you care about views that's why you do and ask the shit you ask I'm not fucking with it I don't like what you represent and you got no principle you don't give a fuck about me or nobody you interview you get an n-word killed and sent to jail and be on to the next victim and you take advantage of for clicks and views fuck you buddy thoughts hold on G Herbo I don't care what platform you're on you should never get in the hundreds as far as views go even the thousands is embarrassing G Herbo that's horrible you don't do 100k with G Herbo what are you doing I'm not in the industry as far as he is I'm not like an artist on his level by far you suppose and your baby mama even viral what are we talking about then for two

1:57:25Can you show the screen for a second? You should always get at least 100 ,000 views when you interview G Herba. Just going to throw that out there. You should. Hold on, hold on, hold on. And after this, I'm done. Okay. Can't, I don't care what platform it is. Vlad, Academics, Wallow and Gilly, Joe, No Jumper, Drink Champs, Breakfast Club. Can't nobody get me in trouble with the police But me Man I'm glad you said that That's it Can't nobody get me in trouble bro because I don't got to answer Nothing they say But he's not really saying that He's really just saying that he doesn't appreciate The fact that Vlad He feels like Vlad just interviews people Because they're hot in the moment or because he can get views off them Which granted If you're a person running a big hip hop platform Yeah you basically need to talk to people that are going to get views Otherwise your business makes no fucking sense And of course, that's how it's working, right?

1:58:24But I've been experiencing that a lot. And like, this is my thing about it, like, right? So somebody is sitting down with you and have an interview with you. And that's kind of like, just like, I don't know you and Lefty relationship, but that just like, it kind of sound like the same thing that you was explaining with Lefty. Like, he sat down with you, had an interview, then after that, like, F you. And I've been seeing that with like a lot of guys, like in hip hop, like they be sitting down with these platforms, then later on, like, I'll F them, are they the feds, are they the police And then it's just like, I'll be looking like Well, okay, well, at what point Did they become the feds of the police After you sat down with them And just like what Munchie B said If you, anybody that's like From, you know what I'm saying A hood, you know what I'm saying, a trenchant property Whatever you want to call it, you know what I'm saying If you ain't been in jail, bro, you know If you ain't been in these Rooms where the police Interrogation rule, where police try to question you All that, bro, you already know the do's and don'ts So it don't matter who the interviewee is, you should already know what you're going into.

1:59:25So like Herbo say, he only did Vlad because of his team. So it's just like, basically, you was going off what your team was telling you. So you was doing it to a degree for the likes and the clickbait too. In the same comment, he says, you called me every time, which kind of makes it sound like it wasn't Vlad communicating with his team. Well, it's also Herbo's comment reads that he feels like Vlad is taking credit for his success to a degree. Okay. And that doesn't really. That can come across as offensive. Yeah. For sure. Which I don't even think that Vlad was necessarily really implying that.

2:00:06I don't know why Herbo reacted in that way. Especially, I don't know how close Herbo and Bibby still are, but I know that Bibby and Vlad have been cool and done a lot of content. I like Bibby. I like Bibi a lot too. Now remember though, I will say this. Herbo's success was not because of Vlad. That's pretty obvious. Like Killshit, Gangway, he had huge records that were resonating when he was still 17 years old. Like, you know what I mean? When I was messing with you on your come up and now that you love me, you're acting funny. You're going on platforms that only get you 600 views. That's all.

2:00:37Yeah, that ain't saying I made you. It's like, you know, your come up when you was coming up, you know what I'm saying? We was doing interviews and now I just heard Vlad say, now that you're bigger or larger than life, you feel like that, you don't want to fuck with me no more. Herbo is like, well, I don't like what you represent. People going to jail and this and that. That's what I'm saying. At what point did his podcast start representing that? After he interviewed you? Herbo's saying that he just didn't really even think about it. He didn't know Vlad from a hole in the wall at that time. He was just kind of doing whatever because I mean let's be real I did a Herbo interview in I think 2018 and I'm kind of in the same boat as Vlad where he just you know stopped talking to me at a certain point I want to be associated with the podcast or whatever and I accept that from everybody but it does feel a little weird that when you give somebody opportunity or you put them on a certain pedestal with your content which granted G Herbo was already a big artist by the time I interviewed him but you always think like unless something bad happens between us that we're going to stay on cool terms but oftentimes what you find and and Vlad I think mentioned like the Migos in the same clip that he did their first interview and then they didn't want to do content with him after I mean that shit always does hurt especially when but I think from Vlad's perspective like he would understand if you were only going to go do Shannon Sharp and you were going to do the Breakfast Club if you were going to do platforms that are like as big as mine or bigger then I totally get that but he's saying like he'll go do a podcast with like total nobodies and get no fucking views but that's kind of part of the thing of being Herbo is that you're big enough that if you got something good to say if you want to say fuck this rapper or you want to say hey these are my thoughts on this thing you can do it on any platform and that clip is going to go viral this is my thing Adam alright so like I like it's just shit I don't even speak on like I even like the same shit like you said I even like get this shit with you and just like it probably been people that you interviewed in the past and just like kind of like for me i'll be like all right like damn so my thing is like this like that's what i it comes back to the question like when did they start becoming the police like after they interviewed you and this the thing is like my thing is i can't take offense to you talking to somebody else but you're gonna have a fence just being in a room because oh i feel like no jumper it is i feel like no jumper that like hold on bro i'm a nigga that did extensive time bro like nigga and i could have went home every time bro like and i did not and i took that on the chin so it just be like when i just even be hearing certain shit like bro like hold on you think like i'm gonna really be around some shit that's like represent like like like the police like niggas put they self in these own predicaments like show me show a motherfucker some paperwork what a motherfucker name on there whatever motherfucking Adam real name is on there that he cooperated with the police putting somebody in jail and shit like that because at any business like even if like you got a fucking smoke shop you could be a motherfucking gang member with a smoke shop if you run in a legit business if a fucking shooting happened the police is coming to your business asking for the tapes and if you got tapes that's recording you gotta hand that shit over or it's gonna get subpoenaed to court so that's why you just even have a bullshit camera or some shit that don't recording so it just be like i just be kind of confused like with the police shit because it's just like you as a grown member and like as a person i understand pros and cons and understand the do's and don'ts like you can only put yourself in these predicaments and answer trick questions because if it's something that i'm uncomfortable with or don't agree with i'm gonna check this on the spot i'll be like hey bro we ain't man next question or you could be like exactly be like peewee longway and be like i just like blue because it's a nice color yeah you just totally dub the entire question and here here's the main thing though i think a lot of people are afraid a lot of artists are afraid to go to platforms like vlad or no jumper because we're not going to do puff pieces we're not we're going to do real journalism we're going to actually interview you we're going to ask you real questions it's not going to be just some industry ass shit and i think that's why a lot of people get intimidated and granted though too like there's only so many platforms that herbo could go on where and me and vlad both are two of them where i'm gonna say hey this guy was talking shit about you on the internet and then your homie shot and killed him the other day and now the feds are investigating and they already arrested him and shit like that like that kind of thing a million dollars worth of game they saying that to you they're gonna they're gonna let you skate and not have to talk about the tough questions but the thing is too is like me or her bro if you told us or or vlad i mean if you told us beforehand like hey i don't want to talk about this shit it's an open case boom fine i don't care but my thing is like i if you look at every rapper in the whole rap game 95 of the rappers which are the ones that haven't made it yet are desperate to get on a platform like vlad or no jumper then you have the guys who make it to the point where they feel like they don't need that platform anymore and so they just kind of turn their back on or act like they're too big-headed for it or whatever but then you also have some people who kind of cross over that mountain like i'm going to use dirk as an example dirk was rapping about how he didn't fuck with vlad then dirk gets a fed case gets a rico and then dirk sends his lawyer basically or i think vlad reached out to drew finland to do an interview and then drew finland has to get approval from Dirk and actually told Vlad in the interview like hey Dirk said that he doesn't have a problem with you or anything so with both Dirk and Herbo they are people who are in the position where they feel like they don't need anybody they don't give a fuck about the media because their career is already at a point that is so big that they don't need nobody but then look at Dirk as soon as he's on the other side of that and he's looking at his career like fuck maybe my career is over maybe I'm not gonna see the streets for 20 years then all of a sudden it's like he starts to warm up again to the media outlets my main thing is like if you're gonna if you're gonna be a rapper and you're gonna you know have relationships with the media your standard for why you basically like reject the platform especially one that you fucked with early in your career should probably be a little high right like i just don't think it don't make sense to me to like turn your back on another platform that you were you were real cool with for like like like none of the reasons that he really outlines there are reasons that I would consider like good excuses.

2:07:09If Herbo don't care about the views he's just messing with you for you and what you're trying to bring that's that's cool but but like the police shit bro it's on the person that sit down in the chair bro and I stand on that because I ain't never went for sure. Like what is Herbo so worried about him asking? This is like the thing like if you just like me even if let's just say my team is in charge of like who I go interview is sitting with like i'm doing it based on my team like just at this point in my life like as a human being and shit that i've been through like i've still known like what platform who like okay like i'm still want to like do some like research at least a small research like you know what they own who i'm interviewing with you feel me like because that's when you get put in predicaments like you go interview somebody you just showing up to somebody somebody that mess with the ops right you know i'm saying or you know they known for interviewing your ops so it's like Like at some point, even if your folks came to you, it was like, oh, yeah, well, yeah, it's no jumping.

2:08:07You got to do it, man. It's the coolest podcast. What's the real intention? What's the real intention? Like, you feel me? You know, you can't do it. Well, you can do what you want to do, but just me personally, I'm not going to do it. And then later on, be like, fuck it. Like beforehand, I need to know what I'm getting myself into because I'm going to be like, fuck it beforehand. Rather people believe it or not. Like, I'm going to be like, fuck it beforehand. I don't give a fuck about like the fame or getting exposure. I'm going to be like, fuck it beforehand. I feel like for a normal person, which we all to some extent kind of fall into that category, I feel like it's hard to even imagine how much G Herbo is feeling himself in the sense that he don't feel like he gives up.

2:08:42He don't need none of these media outlets. He's been hot musically for 10 fucking years. He don't worry about what a Vlad feel like, et cetera. But as soon as your career starts to dip down a little bit, you're going to be in the position where you either want that kind of attention from media outlets like that, or you're you already know that you're gonna look crazy if you go try to like get some attention from that kind of shit because i mean herbo to be fair like and i fuck with him and that's why it does kind of bum me out that he doesn't fuck with us but it is what it is i'll take it on the chin i know i feel like that's that's the ultimate thing that comes from me interviewing five million random as chicago rappers is that then the really big rappers start to look at the platform like got some peon shit yeah and i've kind of realized that over the years is that you know if you're a dirk and we interview a poodle la flair and he's basically saying like man fuck fuck dirk because he didn't look out for me after i got shot or whatever that's just immediately like from the eyes of a superstar rapper they're like man fuck that platform i ain't going there when they interviewed somebody who in their eyes ain't shit right the the main reason they interviewed was because they wanted to throw dirt on my neck but there's but what about the ones i already know the platform bullshit still pull up because okay what's the name of it I guess what was it Joe when academics was on at the time when Nipsey pulled up he said what he said to academics and he pushed out you could tell Nip wasn't feeling y 'all before on the way up there so why even pull up yeah that's an interesting question I think like he probably like went to complex because there's all kinds of content in complex and then when he realized he was supposed to be on a podcast I guess with academics, then he kind of shut it down and told that, you know, like, but I believe that I was rotating a host.

2:10:29There's just like a million shows on complex. I think at that time it was kind of like, you might go in there and do three different interviews. You do some little 10 minute piece of content. You do an hour long thing with, but also if you're going to be on everyday struggle, I'm pretty sure you had to be pulling up at like five. It was a girl. That's good. Joe and him. Right. So that's also at the time for this, that you gotta like, Look at the aura of academics now compared to then. He was a different guy. We ain't talking about now compared to then. He's a different guy, though. Bro, bro, bro, Nipsey wouldn't have cared for academics now.

2:11:03Academics is worse now. So he really wouldn't have F with them. But he has relationships with so many of the big rappers realistically. Bro, bro, bro, Nipsey ain't one of my favorite people, but he didn't care about relationships, bro. Nipsey, he wouldn't, bro, if he didn't mess with him on, what's the show it's called? Everyday Struggle. He wouldn't have messed with them now. Now, if you didn't mess with him, because you was messy then. What if a bunch of his good friends are all fucked with academics and do content with him? He might be looking at it like shit. If 21 real cool with him, if Offset cool with him, if little baby cool with him, if young boy cool with him.

2:11:34But they all look up to Nipsey, though. But the thing is, at that time, it was very popular to hate on academics. Fools were going on that show and spazzing on him all the time. That was the first time that anybody's seen him in real life. Correct. Are you forcing me to give Nipsey flowers, right? Listen. We all know you love him. Listen, listen. Nipsey ain't tripping on trends and who mess with who, bro. He didn't mess with academics as far as him. How he got out and how he did his content. He probably seen the war on Chirac. He wasn't feeling it. No, for sure. He come from the thick of this.

2:12:04He in the trenches where we at. And he wasn't feeling it. He came, he was asking stupid questions. He got up out of there. I don't think they got to the point of even asking questions. They didn't even start that. Yeah, I don't think they did. And remember, this is the same time when fools are also tripping out. So when Nip sat out with him and then skated. He didn't even sit down with them, though. He just, like, basically told them in the building, like, nah, I don't fuck with you. I don't like what you do. And that was it. They didn't do the interview. That's also within six months of when, like, the Migos were getting into it with Joe Budden and had that altercation at the awards.

2:12:33Which, to be fair, Hack was, like, the good guy in that. Yeah, he was trying to. Joe Budden was the antagonist that they were taking shots at. Let's fall over here on the chat line. No, no, no. No, no, no. I don't even know. No, no, no. Do that thing. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Nah, but I mean, oh, okay. What the fuck are we talking about? Where did we even get on that? What was talking about? Herbo, Herbo, Herbo. Walking on the interviews, interviewers. Yeah, but the thing about Herbo also is, it's the cliche that people have said for years. All the people that you see on the way up, you're going to have to see on the way back down.

2:13:09So it's in people's best interest to maintain good relationships with all media outlets, whether or not they might have a certain stigma attached to him at a certain point or not. But also, at this point, a huge percentage of the top rappers realize that they don't really need the media. But guess what? It's a lot of people that do music and they was messing with these media outlets when they was on their way up. And now they up, they're not messing with these artists and they feel that way. And that's why the story came out with Vlad in Glasses Malone. That's a whole other topic. We should talk about that after.

2:13:47When I come back. Yeah, when you come back. He's going on a single break. Yeah, yeah. P for the D. Let's talk about something. Let's talk about something. Wait, what's P for the D? That's a pattern sheet. P for the D. Oh, shit, all right. Shit, man. Yo, I went to the crazy-ass underground rapper basketball game this weekend. How was that? It was pretty wild. I mean, shout out to Hyperpop Daily and Underground Sound. Those are the new up-and-coming underground platforms that basically put on this event. and it was cool because it's kind of like a weird mix of like the underground scene that i kind of come from circa like 2016 2017 and now but then you kind of mix it in there's always like the street element too where you have like like at one point all right i'm like whoops i'm standing on a a chair right watching the basketball game and then i see i realize that there's like another chair and if i stand on that chair i'll be closer to travel raw so i'll be able to actually talk to boom there's a backpack in between us so i i get down and i move the backpack and as i moved the backpack i just realized like oh that's a very heavy backpack and it really there's something in there really hit the other chair like with a real thud and i'm like oh right some of the rappers here are not just auto-tune underground rappers some of these rappers have uh blicks with them so this is a bunch of like soundcloud fools were predominantly or basically but then there's like some like drill street type rappers on there but one weird thing about it is that a lot of the biggest rappers on it were not there like i was really excited to see a little pump and smoke perp hoop it up they were on the bill they were not there bonoff 1700 not there really if i were to look at the flyer it'd probably be kind of shocking how many people were listed that didn't show up but there was a lot of people there you know dave blunts came through uh fucking rugrat was there uh a lot of people i've seen laser dim for the first time in a while a bunch of people so it's a lot of those are pretty south and florida fools and shit like yeah and then uh we saw skrilla and then skrilla invited us to the show and that's how we ended up going to that show which it was it was interesting to see like who's a committed enough skrilla fan to come through to the El Rey to just see one rapper perform.

2:16:02No openers, just Skrilla. I think it was somewhat poorly promoted because I would have for sure even if I wasn't if you didn't hit me, it was like I would have gone to see Skrilla because that's like a rapper that I hella fuck with. Okay, to me and this is not a criticism of Skrilla in any way, but I was kind of surprised that it was like he performed for maybe an hour a couple other artists came out and did a song with him and shit like that. But then that was it. Normally when I go to a show, I'm expecting to at least see two other openers. And in my mind also, these should not be paid openers.

2:16:40These should be people that genuinely belong on this bill, even if they're playing for free. Something that makes sense. For me as a person going to a show, that was kind of surprising to have it just be the one set from Skrilla and that was it. I would love to open up for Skrilla. on the zombie tour. It was a wild vibe, though, but no, it was cool. I had a good time. Does Skullab ring females out? Some females, yeah. Skullab ring got some hoes, for sure. Like what? 40, 60, 40 male, female? I would not say that. I would say probably more like a 90-10, but even at an underground rap show, even a 10 % is pretty solid.

2:17:20That is good. Actually, the one funny thing is like I'm leaving and I don't normally have the uh the situation like i used the where i'm like i'm the sober guy and i'm just like surrounded by people who are at some level of fucked up and there's one white girl who has no idea who i am but she's seeing other people take photos of me and shit and she's she's kind of like telling me like oh my god like who are you like i don't even know who you are and then she she kind of like right as i'm about to leave she hits me with the so like what are you doing for the rest of the night i'm like i'm going home to my wife and kid she's like oh i don't know what i was like it's just so weird like just having a straight up conversation i hadn't even smoked weed yet it's like 10 p.m and i'm talking to this drunk ass girl just looking into her eyes just like she's too drunk i mean you won't probably be drunk too but you don't want you don't want it too drunk you don't want it too drunk yeah i mean like if I was eight beers in, I probably would have been looking at her like, oh, she's fine.

2:18:26As a sober person, I'm looking at her like, she's all right. But I'm saying, when you too, too drunk, unless I know you like that, I ain't doing it. You know what I'm saying? When I used to get too, too drunk, everybody was on there. You gotta remember that you fucked me, bro. Anybody can get it. EBK? EBK what? Anybody kitty? Anybody kitty. Any vagina can get it. all right let's check this out right here this is a clip that has kind of been making the rounds today gucci main's wife keisha k or reveals how she handles his manic schizophrenic episodes which okay just before we even play this uh when i was driving to that underground basketball show uh game i actually listened to the new gucci main album oh that's about the interview which is called um episodes so every song i can remember the chorus is something about mental health i'm a psycho i'm a psycho that's a whole song i think but yes weirdo weirdo there you go but no there's like another song where the chorus is like i'm a psycho every second song is about mental health and he also put out a new book which i guess is about his mental health journey But now he's also doing the rounds with his wife, doing shows like The Breakfast Club, and they're having conversations about his mental health.

2:19:48So it turns out Gucci Mane has the same shit that CripMock got. He's a schizophrenic. So let's check out her talking about it because this is kind of like a new level of openness that we're maybe not used to seeing from the trap god. Makes a lot of sense. what was it like just trying to protect the business that you guys have built while i have a system i take his apps off his phone first thing i do i delete instagram i delete everything even if i got to change his password i'm changing it because i don't need the public to know he's having an episode you realize you'd never know about any other episodes since september 13th because i control that because you're not going on instagram you're not going on twitter it's deleted, you know, and I just control everything at home.

2:20:33And now before the episodes come, I catch it. So that's why he hasn't had another one. And how you catch that is he doesn't speak to you. He wants to be left alone. He don't eat. He does not sleep. Text messages. There's a period after each word. And I'm like, you're going through an episode. You're sick. No, I'm not. Ain't that wrong with me. Why do you think that you're not speaking to me? Well, there's nothing to talk about. I said, well, that's not how you speak to your wife. And I'm like, you're sick. And we snap out of it. For you, what was it like? Wait, hold on. This keeps going. This keeps going.

2:21:07You know, when we heard Kim this week say how Kanye just used to give away their cause and stuff when he would go through episodes. And in the book, you talk about you just used to be giving away stuff. I gave away Jerry. Money. You know how much it costs for Jerry? I gave away, I would give my friends Jerry and like, they know I went well, they'll take it. mm-hmm I felt like damn they know I was someone's going on with me but they'll take it so it's like when I got out of jail like I cut off all my friends my old friend come like damn they were taking advantage no what the psychology is behind that like why when you go into an episode you give away money I don't know mmm you don't care because the money don't it's not you kind of like in a war world it's almost like it's a psychosis you know I'm saying it's not you dealing with stuff like you're invoices yeah they have boys and you hearing voices too like it's telling you to you know you might think that charlamagne trying i might think that you're trying to fight me you ain't even did nothing we were like bro i ain't did nothing to you what's wrong like i'll be like trying to fight you charlamagne like right i feel like this my first reaction is just that that shit kind of fills in the blanks of so much stuff about gucci that maybe we've like struggled to understand over the years and even the little details like when she's talking about the periods after uh everybody after every word when he's texting or whatever that's an example of something that we've we've seen over the years on his fucking uh on his twitter account like when he was having meltdowns and stuff and she's saying that that's like a consistent thing which is so bizarre to imagine that his brain just like shifts over into a separate way of typing when he's going through one of these episodes like it's such a deliberate different way of being i mean there is a difference between schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder i think it's important to note um so schizophrenia i think essentially is defined by voices in your head essentially and like people or you feeling like there's there's a clear difference and i know because i've been in a lot of institutions with these people i think that um the craziest thing from that i saw was the fact that gucci gives away his jewelry to his homies and then forgets the next day that he forgets like there's a complete disconnect but do it but that mind state right okay so and then when he's back in his other mind state or whatever he doesn't realize that he did it and then she has to go and retrieve the jewelry from his homies and things like that.

2:23:38Who said he got retrieved? Well, if you watch the interview, that's kind of one of the things they talk about. I watched it. I didn't hear her say he got retrieved, though. Yeah, no, she did talk about that. She was like, sometimes she would have to go and he wouldn't know where it was at or sometimes she would have to go get pieces back that he didn't necessarily want to give away. Regardless, the fact that his entire album is about this topic kind of makes me think this is somewhat of like a contrived marketing campaign. You don't believe this? This to me is like the most authentic thing imaginable.

2:24:11Obviously, he deals with this shit. I mean, you're skeptical of that? To me, everything I've seen in Gucci as a huge Gucci fan is like, clearly he's been dealing with some mental health shit. She's a good girl, bro. She's a good wife, bro, for sure. Like, this is the girl you want. That's going to stick by you, bro. She know your flaws and your character traits. And then if you're out of character, she knows what's different as far as like his punctuations when he type and all the little things. She's a good girl, bro. All right. Then the giving away thing, I think that's like a type of manic state.

2:24:46You know what I'm saying? You're not knowing what you're doing. Because like she said, Kanye was doing it and Kim talked about it. And then my first baby mama, she went to church and gave away her whole tax refund. She gave it to the church and regretted it later. like so it don't know that that's some that's some that's some mental shit you know i'm saying but but but uh but good this is not no marketing nothing this is this is very uh well i think it's both because he's definitely using it as like the rollout for this album in terms of like how to make it special the book etc he's like you wouldn't call that marketing though well yeah it was he titled a book after it and then he made an entire album based around it and now he's doing interviews with his girl which he hasn't really done before where they're talking openly about this i'm not saying it's in any way disingenuous i'm just saying they're also using as a marketing thing it reminds me of when dj envy did a whole uh run uh a rollout really for like he wrote a book with his wife he talked all about cheating early in the life etc and then they did a whole media campaign to basically do it yeah which i mean it makes sense because like as a celebrity you're always trying to figure out like new things that you can share with the world because the reality is is that people get sick of all the shit that they already know about you um that being said like my main thing about it is like i realized because i'm a person who can be kind of a dick and i realized that i should have told my girl when i first started seeing her that i have a mental health condition and when i'm a dick to you it's not me it's my mental health i'm going through a phase it's something that's just in my head and you need to shoot me some because like you see the way she's like not mad at him for shit that like any woman would be furious with their man over she had already she had already before this said like i think a week ago she was like he doesn't have to worry about anything like all he has he doesn't have to worry about finances his clothes paying bills whatever all he got to do is hit the studio i take care of everything i I don't even want him to think about anything besides that.

2:26:50Now, also, here's a hot take. Now, obviously, he's been way more successful since he got out the feds, and he's had astronomical numbers. But all of us as fans, like true Gucci Mane fans, we miss that unhinged energy. People like psychotic Gucci Mane. Unhinged, fat belly. Yes, yes. We don't want the codeine belly. No, you do. That was when he made most of his great music. That's all of the music we did. Now, I want him to be the healthiest version of himself, but let's not lie. Like, when you listen to this album, if you do listen to the album, it's cool. Like, he still raps, like, solidly and stuff, but all of the anarchy from his previous work before he got sober and everything is kind of gone.

2:27:33It feels... He's like unhinged Gucci. I said that to Remo in the car. I said I would be 0 % surprised if I found out that there's just a guy who writes all this stuff for him. If you want the same Gucci you had back then, you don't care about his well-being. I'm not saying we actually want that. No, no, no, no, because that's what you'll get because that was the codeine that did not take my medicine, Gucci. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm happy for him as a man. I'm happy for Roderick Davis. Age gracefully. You know what I'm saying? Do your thing. And if they want the old Gucci to go listen to the old shit.

2:28:04Fair enough. But what I'm saying is like, as a person, obviously, I'm happy for Roderick Davis for glowing up. Roderick. You feel me? Hey, boy. Radrick. It's Radrick. Like I said, his mama fucked up. Radrick? Yeah. But that's like Jalik. With that, regardless, look, people were like, I'm very happy for his success, his seemingly very stable life and all that, but I think a lot of us as fans miss the music he was making before. I don't slap too much post-2016 Gucci, but him alluding to the fact that there might be some mental problems i could see from a fan perspective people being uh intrigued by that and interested because like my thing that i was found interested in waguchi is how like in this latter stage of his career you don't see him really like socializing with anybody i can't remember the last time i seen him just like hanging out with a rapper you know like it don't seem like he ever just stops by somebody's show it's like 100 business and i've heard this from people who like work very closely with him too is that he's in his own world he don't even got a manager it's like him and a security guard and he prefers to be solo the vast majority of the time and doesn't really like to be putting himself in tricky situations which is why i feel like the old version of gucci was extremely good at signing all of these artists who went on to become gigantic whether it's you know signing slash co-signing whether it was migos a thug or doll for all the OJ Waka if you want to go back a little bit more yeah like he always was just around hella artists super talented able to sign him you look at the latter stage of his career yes there are successes uh at times but there's also way more people that didn't really work out he he recently dumped like you know 10 plus artists that were on his uh label and I think that's part of part of that is him just like acknowledging that he's not a people person that's necessarily trying to be out here you know working artist careers it takes a lot out of you and i kind of think just like probably it's probably just like this is stuff he already been through it's like you kind of like i'm saying going down the same pattern of something you did 20 years ago already knowing that it's unhealthy for you let's just look out let's just look at all the things unfolding in atlanta right now and rap right now with dudes coming home and getting out all this dude supposed to be a gangster but he told or it is happening so i think gucci probably just like even on his bid and just like it's unhealthy for him to be around industry artists because like you see in the industry a lot of stuff is fake you see a lot of people you know i'm saying supposed to be bros speaking on each other and stuff like that so it's just like man i could be by myself you know i'm saying and um he did talk about forgiving uh thug oh yeah yeah yeah because they had had issues for a while and he heard Thug say stuff about him on those calls but he did say that he kind of chose to let it go.

2:31:03That's a part of being healthy because if he do step back in a negative light and answer back, you know what I'm saying, I'm Crash Out Gucci. So it's just like with growth and development, you know man, you was in jail, you was just talking man, I'm exactly like I didn't even hear that. You know what I'm saying, for sure. Thug is Gucci's fucking kid, let's be real. You feel me? And that's why when Gucci got locked up at first he had the free Gucci song and everything Like, bro, it was before he turned on him, like, Doug idolized Gucci at a certain point. Look, that's a thing called backsliding, and he don't want to do that.

2:31:34You know what I mean? Not for real. What that mean? Backsliding, like, going back to your old ways. You know what I'm saying? So, like, you go in your old environment and go around the same thing. So, you do different things. Like, you just go with a security guard. It's him and his wife. He go do a show and go back home. You know what I'm saying? Or you go backslide. He ain't trying to backslide. And I like the new Gucci. That's the growth Gucci. And then that's like even Thug on the phone call. Somebody's soft. He ain't soft. He elevated. For sure. He is growth. He ain't soft because I bet you you push him on Gucci, he's going to still punch you in the face.

2:32:13But Thug is now kind of in the position that he previously labeled Gucci soft for being in, which is. No, no, no. Thug does all. That's different. Okay. but thug doesn't want to be around all the homies that he was with before because he feels like they snitched on him or whatever. Gucci feels like in that example, he's given about giving away all his chains and his homies, taking on your own kind of realizing for friends. He on a song begging for friends. That's what I'm saying. He feels adrift because he just doesn't have the support that he used to have. And Gucci, when he was in the super fucked up drinking lean, being in the studio until five in the morning phase of his life, which is clearly passed.

2:32:48It was easy for him to have all these associates. I'm the same way when I was in those underground shows every fucking night, just hanging out with people or whatever. I had infinite people that want to be on the podcast or around whatever. It was super smooth and easy. It's only once you start really like taking control of your life and living a more organized, healthy, safe life, that then it kind of becomes harder to relate to people who are on more of like a street level, which in hip hop, a lot of that is the people that you really want to be connected to. If you're trying to sign artists, it helps to be backstage at all the shows.

2:33:18You want to sign artists. it helps to be in the streets and knowing what artists are coming up etc but when you're a multi-millionaire who's happy in a relationship with his wife you got kids you're healthy you're not doing drugs puts a lot of distance between you and also it seems like he's putting that distance intentionally because of his mental health struggles i think he realizes that he is the liability that if he's in crazy situations he's the one who's going to be getting robbed he's the one who's going to be tweaking on somebody and getting arrested you know he chooses to just keep a very controlled environment where I think those outbursts are a lot less likely for him.

2:33:52But see, Gucci is a grown apart experience. Like, you know, you outgrow people and then thug circumstantial while y 'all not hanging out. So it's not the drugs that made Gucci what he was. He was already fucking crazy. It's what was the main thing to drive. It's a mixture. Yeah, it's a mixture of everything. I think like a lot of people what a lot of people don't take in account and get misconstrued that I'm pretty sure in your life it had been times that out of nowhere you might have just got depressed and you like what the fuck am I depressed about like what's going on I should take some molly then I won't be depressed I mean I feel like that's what a lunch does you're not wrong so with that right like that depression that shit be coming from like a lot of shit you like eating so you so you out here let's just say you out here you doing drugs whatever drug of your choice this shit bad for you out here doing drugs on top of that you consuming sugar on top of that you consuming shit that's bad for your diet and you know i'm saying and this shit have hormones and all type of shit so like this shit really like when your body trying to fight this shit off and this shit in you this shit is sending you you know i'm saying through emotional you through emotional changes and shit like that and it got you like damn why the fuck i'm feeling down to feel this type of way and i experienced that just from like bad eating to me just doing like a week a clean eating and like no sugar and i'm just like seeing just like like like the health like like improvement in my mental health versus me doing bad shit and i'm like damn like a lot of this shit be like with your diet your food on top of shit and then just on top if you already got a problem or if you adhd and you ain't taking medication of course you're gonna be hearing voices you're gonna be tripping and be like man like i'm psyched out you feel me i ain't gonna lie to you and like everything you said just really resonated with me because like bro this is like you're describing what i'm going through right now yeah like literally fool like which part i mean like feeling yeah you're all glazed bro i want it oh that's why i'm listening attentively right now i just want to i just don't know what you meant not as jesus christ munchy no like as as far as the like consuming drugs sugars all this shit hormones and shit like that you know what I'm saying and then wondering why like you feel fucked up you depressed and you feeling the way you feel and you went through that asthma attack exactly it's always like a million things at once exactly and then when you remove all that are you going to feel better most likely you know what I'm saying my thing if I ain't feeling like I ain't doing what I'm supposed to do or I ain't where I'm supposed to be that's when I shut down.

2:36:37I ain't gonna answer no calls. I'll be numbs in. I'll get to like numbs in. But other than that, that's what it be for me, though. I ain't gonna lie, bro. I've been wanting to stop the path that I'm on for a while. What path is that? Just constantly doing drugs. J-cat-ism. So you wanna slow down or stop the drugs? You don't know, but when he was on this podcast the first time around for like two years he was sober i almost can't even really remember but i did see that somebody posted in the reddit the other day and they said like damn i'm watching some old episodes and it's crazy how different lush was or whatever and i'm like damn i can't even remember if i watch that i'll probably whoever sent that to adam sent it to my instagram and be underscored the mayor i'm gonna do some content on it before you can watch anything prior So prior to me coming back.

2:37:33It's going to be Les versus Les Uno. Yeah. So if you watch anything before me coming back to No Jumper, all my original year at No Jumper was all sober. And then when I came back, I was on bunk. Help me out, y 'all. Shoot it through, bro. Shoot it to the Instagram. Les versus Les Uno. To be honest, you know what it is? I just feel like I haven't. Look, you guys got to realize something. I handled pussy in three years. Hey, just so you know, side note, P-Face Baby has tapped in and said that he wasn't dug in the podcast. He still wants to do it and that he's down to line it up ASAP. How do we line it up?

2:38:08Line the interview up? Or what he told me? Interview. Down to line you up. I'm with that. Poor choice awards. Nah, but I'm on tilt right now. I'm with that because he's trying to line the interview up, man. Yeah, I'm with all pieces. And you know, communication rule the nation because misunderstandings lead to mortuaries for sure. So it's good for people to get their point across and get some understanding. That part right there. Because you can communicate to somebody but they got to be receptive and understanding of your communication. And that's the exact reason why I did content earlier that's go come out Marl's Over Money after this but I didn't call this man out of his name because once you go too far with me, I don't want to talk.

2:38:55It ain't no talking. so I want to keep the lane for dialogue open I ain't going to disrespect you you know what I'm saying I said what I had to say you know what I'm saying and we going to holler because bro the blind shit don't mean nothing bro your old ass somebody that's 60 years old that run your hood don't do shit he'll send somebody over there so that means absolutely nothing stop playing I don't know why niggas play like niggas can't press a button like pick it in brain no buttons being pressed what do you want to do tonight nigga take over the world They can take over no jumper and shit.

2:39:29Yo, that's funny that I just picked a cartoon that we apparently all have a reference base for. Because a lot of people be doing Spongebob jokes. I'm like, I don't know. I was a grown man when Spongebob came out. I think we're all within six, seven years of each other. Oh. You did it. What's the beep beep? Nigga, what's the beep beep? What's his name? You didn't do that on purpose? No. What's the cartoon? Beep beep, nigga? Roadrunner. Oh, yeah. All right. I'm on the nigga. Runner. Roadrunner. bro the 6-7 meme like that was like the theme of the skrilla show yeah of course kind of now they didn't go overboard with it because i but you know i seen travel ross did a video on his channel 6-7 is a hood in philly and they are not happy about the fact that 6-7 has become like a meme yeah because that's their block 6-7 is a hood out here too yeah it is 6-7 well it became like a meme and um like like it's so funny like for this jersey yeah you did it on the back but and you still got the tag on it what are you doing well this is like the prototype i'm proud of you feel me like but i got a i got 667 tattooed on me like i've had that for years what is that one above the devil you feel me 667 you've won above the devil so yeah it was an art collective so you lucifer kind of the opposite but like sure however you interpret it but also that's like the address across the street for me is 6-7 across the street for you what about it's the building I look at every day so I was like you know what and let me play off of this why are you repping the apartment building across the street not repping anything I'm just saying that's where he traps over yeah that's stupid as fuck Hey, so hold on.

2:41:13You said 667, one above the devil. One above the devil is Lucifer. Is it? What's the difference? Lucifer and the devil, the same thing? You got Lucifer, the devil, the demon. You got levels to this shit. The devil is Lucifer. Lucifer is just his name. It's like you having your real name and being Munchie B. Lucifer is his real name. The devil is his name. What's his name? Sha something. To read the Book of Shadows, if you look at like I see it he has a 6-7 on his arm 6-6-7 he has a halo above it you feel me above this you gonna have a halo alright that 6-7 out here gets you smoked just cover that up bro put some freestyle that is like it's literally nothing gang related whatsoever game makers read shit different we read air codes different it doesn't look bad put some rap shit on top of that shit ain't nobody looking at Lush like oh we're gonna decode your gang tattoos man we got homies that don't read the internet bro if you're on the internet everybody know Lush Uno you have to look at his armpit to see that one man it is like a covered up tattoo you got an armpit tat no it's on like the inside of my bicep so I got one last topic here before we read the donation so everybody if you want to get your donation read send that 5 bucks 10 bucks whatever you want right now we'll do it afterwards but i figure you know i'll do the nice thing they react to everything that happens in my life we're gonna actually talk about it back on flip fig clip for the first time ever so there's this guy kevin mccall which at first when i heard this i'm like kevin mccale the star from the 90s okay um that's a singer right there i think so so he used to be uh tapped in with chris brown and i guess like he thought that an appropriate platform for him to talk about being broken on ebt would be on back on fig where they also are broken on ebt and also bankrupt so um you think t-relle on ebt for real i don't actually know but i do know he's bankrupt anyway i feel like this is interesting because you actually are kind of seeing kevin mccall and T-Rail go poverty for poverty which is rare.

2:43:33You don't always get to see it. A lot of times people wouldn't want to open up about this kind of stuff but because he knew that he was in the face of another broke person, he felt like it was appropriate. So let's check out this clip of Kevin McCall who I had not heard of until today. Deucy! Even if you still had your child in California am I correct? Yeah, I gotta prove all of that. They wouldn't post I didn't have nothing on Marley. Marley, I gotta go and file a Paternity a petition for paternity. It's only three honey, but a nigga nigga watch this I think it's a game, bro You got to pull out the EBT card now this one I poke niggas don't walk up on me playing are you team breezy nigga?

2:44:18He's poker question on the internet

2:44:29Being you are one of the most talented individuals to ever grace the music industry. Watch out T-Rail shuts him down. We're going to get to that. So, we're going to get to that. I love how you got that. I love how you, yeah, we're going to veer to that. We're going to get the food to that. Translation right there, that's T-Rail being like, stop speeding. Stop trying to fucking speed this interview up and throw a nice little ribbon on it. No, we got to get into the grimy shit. I understand he learned from the best because I've definitely done that as well. I have a testimony. Why the fuck? Get in on it.

2:44:59I witnessed it. He finna be in here and tell us what's going on. Why the fuck I got an EBT card? And this nigga is at Breezy, bro, and made 90 whatever the fuck million. And it's a KKKKK Max. Can I get$25 ,000 for them four songs I owe you, bro? I just want to leave, bro. Leading up to who he is right now. I'm not even tripping, though. I got an EBT card, my nigga. I'm like, what the fuck, bro? I can't even get nothing. Bro, man. Y 'all niggas want to see a nigga crying over here. Say I can think I'm a bitch. Nah, bro. Fuck me. That shit ain't fair, nigga. Hey. I'm on EVT, bro. Hey. That's why.

2:45:34Hey. Look, bro. Calm down, bro. I'm on EVT, fact list. I'm on EVT, fact list. I'm on EVT, fact list. Say my name, bro. That shit is better. Yo, I had to go up in that motherfucking high, my face like COVID, bro. Don't act like every nigga ain't had no motherfucking EVT card. On the set. That nigga had an EVT card. Man, I might get an EVT. I don't want that. I don't want that. I don't want that. I don't want that. Me and Heather went to the county building together. On my mama. Together. We went to the county building together, bro. Oh, God. Everybody find out of this shit. I'm hiding there, bro.

2:46:16I don't understand. Niggas go through problems, bro. Hey, bro. Do you remember? Look at his home. You remember him? Man. How are you doing the armchair quarterback right there? You don't even remember, huh? I was high as fuck. I was going through it, bro. I wanted to kill myself. That nigga spoke life into you, bro. That was my first introduction to him. And, like, humbly I had to let him know, like, bro, you one of the weirdest niggas that he ever met. Like, we gangsta. So, like, when you in that world, like, you know the world I come from and who I am. like the ego, you know, having a big ego is a part of all of it.

2:46:56But I had to let him know how much respect for him and how he conducted itself because of what he said to you, bro. And this is the day that the video dropped. The viral video, that Breezy dropped when he said I bought this with your money. I'm going all this later. I need this. I bought that with your money. I bought this with your money. For real. Remember that video? It was that day, bro. Hey, Kev, you over there. He's blowing up more boogers. Man, this shit is crazy. Yo, I did not see that whole thing. That was crazy. He needed a tissue? Props to him, because that did go viral, but I feel like I could read T-Rell's mind the whole time, which is like, bro, shut the fuck up and let him cry.

2:47:37Let him have this moment emotionally. Why you got to be stepping all over it in your Versace shirt trying to just run up in here and turn it into your narrative or whatever. Let him get the emotions out. God damn. You're standing in the background, the content creating pace. Yeah. We pacing shit. He wants to, like, get past the part of his life being fucked up and get to, like, no, but your life is good now. It's like, no, let him just talk about this part in his life before we get to the rosy sunshine at the end. Is there a rosy sunshine in the end when he still currently has an EBT card, though?

2:48:09Yeah, but that guy's trying to force the narrative of, like, no, but everything's fine now. Hold on, hold on. We're going to highlight. Everybody got EBT cards, man. We're going to highlight that. Wish I had one. I mean, I don't have one per se myself, but like shit, people selling, people selling food stamps and I'm trying to buy EBT cards every month to fill the motherfucking refrigerator up. I'm a highlight that Adam gave T-Rell some credit. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah. He learned from the best. Like you gave us some credit. And you go viral. Then he was like, yeah, like, like there's some good content.

2:48:40And then you pointed out that was a good point that he was trying to like gear it back into the, I just really relate to him seeing how annoyed he's I was saying you give him credit, man. No, you're right. God damn, bro. I'll give him credit because he was getting mad and he was trying to figure out how to push the interview back into a normal fucking conversation without this dude trying to be the coach in the background. All right, clip this. We got Adam22 giving T-Row credit. He did a good job on the interview. Veering the interview. Right or wrong? I'm going to be real. I didn't really hear him doing any interviewing so much.

2:49:08I didn't really get to the part where he was doing the interviewing. But okay. You get what I'm saying. This is my thing, though. It's like, all right, so 10 plus years ago, you wrote songs for Chris Brown, right? And now you're broke. I mean, you got the same fucking 24 hours in the day that everybody else got. The fuck are you crying about? He said, give me some four songs and 25 ,000. Like, like he'll buy stuff on a contract or that he all 25 ,000. Which one? Okay. Well, if that's the case that he's, he can't do anything musically because he's stuck in a contract and can't buy himself out of it.

2:49:38I guess that makes more sense. But just in general, it's like, bro, like it's been a decade. Like, what are you crying? What are you crying about? Yeah, you got Young Thug at the bottom responding. That's Young Thug right there. Yeah, Young Thug tweeted, Kevin McCall, hit me my N-word. I'll give you the 25K you need. And I know Chris Brown will give it to you also, bro. He a real one. N-words is busy sometimes. Which this was very surprising for everybody to see Young Thug chime in. It ain't surprising. No, because he's trying to make friends. Like you said, he's in a different party. He's trying to win over the general population.

2:50:13that too but but that's that's that's just okay so he owe him some money for the four songs he did and he won the 25 ,000 supposedly I got that it ain't no crime I ain't gonna say supposedly it ain't no allegedly the one thing but we said that he said no but we but we don't know if he really owes him that it is not a crime CB can clear it up itself I'm not even talking about on like a legal level but I know just I only say allegedly when they gotta do something some sex or sometimes people feel it When it comes to songwriting, people feel entitled to things that they're not... Their contract doesn't necessarily reflect.

2:50:50Even if they write something... Let's say he wrote for Adam. I'm going to say, Adam said Lush allegedly didn't write this. Adam said he didn't write it. It's not incriminating. Ain't nobody talking about incriminating, but I'm just saying a lot of times that people... Nah, fuck all that, but when people are songwriters, they sometimes think that they're entitled to things that they're not. If they paperwork right there is. Exactly. That's my whole point. We don't know what that paperwork reflects. We don't know what the agreement between him and Breezy really was. You see here like 10 years ago, this guy Kevin McCall was on Vlad talking about his fallout with Chris Brown.

2:51:32You went viral 10 years ago talking about Chris Brown. It's 10 years later and you still operating off the same playbook like I mean even if we're talking about 25k like how the fuck it take you 10 years and you ain't got 25k yet I think he said he's stuck in a contract how long is that interview I don't like to watch it it's a couple of like 10 minute clips on Vlad I'm gonna check it out later but I mean is this fool like releasing music because he just like completely gave up on life here's his YouTube yeah nine years ago was the last time he released something so yeah he been going he been going through like a lot of shit I don't know if you know who Eva Marcel is.

2:52:13Nah. She was like a little model. That's his baby mama, so he'd be in a lot of little custody battles with her and going through stuff with her and her new husband and stuff like that. Eva Marcel? Yeah. Darcelle. I think it's Darcelle. I think it's Eva Darcelle. She got the hazel eyes. She bad? Tall. Hazel eyes. She cool. Little Halle Berry cut. Little blonde. Sounds bad. I'm guessing this guy does not have access to his vivo channel anymore because if you look at this other youtube channel it has stuff that he's put out more recently but either way it doesn't seem like he's doing too great in life hopefully he really gets that 25k from thug because that means that his uh his crying wouldn't have been in vain personally i don't know i see that and i'm just like bro like i hope i don't ever get to the stage in life where i feel so helpless that i all i can do is just cry about on a podcast like shit like how do you not just wake up and just hustle just being bitter about things from your past is not gonna is never gonna be becoming we are right now bro I think he's stuck in some type of contract contractual agreement I don't know help it's possible that's what it sound like he talking about I don't know if he talking about he own 25 ,000 four songs or he trying to buy himself out of contract for 25 I don't I can't tell it might be something contractual bro I'm not about to get on my calling you know what I'm saying and act like he's just like a complete failure and all that you know what I'm saying I just I don't know the crying is just a weird way of expressing your thoughts in that situation to me like I don't know like if I was really broke like I really could think of like hell a ways how many people in the crowd are no jumper how many what how many people in the crowd are no jumper in the crowd not counting OG suicide No, I killed him too I don't know jumper I would say that OG Suicide almost has like a monopoly On people crying on no jumper I mean, there's probably like some examples I mean, I could think of like I could think of one, I don't want to say his name Stuboy Blue is the only one He didn't, didn't tear drop Yeah, it wasn't like tears I'm worse than you That's my big hobie Lush on making Yuri cry After dissing his deceased sister Okay, so you made someone cry I think so.

2:54:32That was off platform. I'm from my own here, though. Yuri wasn't here when that happened. Oh, look, look, FBG Budda breaks down crying, talking about his sister KI, who King Vaughn allegedly killed. So there's one example. But then, yeah, most of the ones, I searched No Jumper cry. Most of the ones coming up are FBG Budda. Oh, he did that? He cried here? Yeah. OG Suicide had, like, probably 10 people cry on his show. I ain't going to lie. I don't understand. That was, like, a Christian evangelical church-type vibe, where everybody was just so wrapped up in the emotion that they believed this is the guy who can make me cry, so everybody just starts crying.

2:55:07You go on there wanting to cry. You know you're going to cry going on. LG Suicide, then the Chicago Duel. Who else? Give me one more that cried on those jumping. Smack cries after AD gifts everyone chains. Yeah, the big chief chain. That wasn't here. Yeah, that was here. That was here. That was right before they left. That was here. And that was tears of joy, to be fair. that was like a different kind of crying Ralphie cries laughing at Sharp wanting to puke on Lush that doesn't count did my boy Jay Stone rule cry because you said something rude bro Jay Stone rule Stoner yeah he did actually so that's four Stoner my boy he got stories like MF his stories are fucking wild we brought him on here once Were you here much when we had a...

2:55:59No, no, no. But I know Stoner. Yeah, Stoner from the Town talks about crying after getting shot in the neck. His story about getting shot in the neck, I remember being particularly brutal. Shout out to the thumbnail guy who photoshopped a tear onto his face. One single... On your shirt, right? I don't remember that. But you got flack for that. Did I? I got so much flack, I don't even notice. You don't remember. See? You're right. I don't really... A lot of the stuff is just in one ear, out the other for me. But yeah, shout out to all the criers. We fuck with all y 'all. We ain't talking about Stoner.

2:56:29I was stoned at home. Nah, that was a good guy right there. Yeah, Shels is all the other criers. And Shels, he's sober now. He's doing really, really good. Yeah, and I got up on his feet. I'm very proud of Stoner, yeah. Hey, everybody go subscribe to Stoner from the town, bro. Everything. Good man. Yo, I'm going to go through the donations right now. So if you guys want to get your donors in, we're going to read them right now. So shout out to Nicholas Palos, as well as Herberito Sandoval for becoming members. Shout out to Kiway J. He said, Wax said abroad downgraded from a blood to a crip, but got crip artists and associates.

2:57:01And him telling somebody to come do something on the Internet is police shit. I think we're talking about whack enough, but I feel you. All gangs are created equal. All gang lives matter. Gang lives. God damn. Why is everybody talking about whacking this shit? Nas Clutch said, Wax a weirdo. Why is he sending you videos of Nova like she's not a kid? I don't know. I didn't click it, but I mean, it's on Twitter. So, I mean, there's already a big problem. I'm not encouraging anybody to go looking for that kind of content. Don't don't fall for the honey pie. You don't want the feds knocking on your door.

2:57:37Bishop Rojas said, who in my bag was busting two fours like Kobe Bryant. Sometimes I think like, what's the likelihood of Kobe dying in that? I ate my rollie shining bars. Very much bars. Shout out to Berto for becoming a member. Eastside Trey said, where are the lady cheeks that was in the seat last week when Seth crot on the little girl? I think Seth might have been showing out for her a little bit more. Oh, you're talking about Tam? No. Martin. Christian Martin. Who's that? She was here last week. She was on the news with him? Yeah, yesterday. She had her little Yeeks out. She's from Connecticut.

2:58:18She was Yeeking or what? what yeah what that's hardcore bully breaker said if flaco's video on brick is accurate that means whack wasn't lying when he said that big u was blackmailing brick with a video and whack never said what the video was no comment i i know many things i don't know what that's about i don't know who got this video i don't even know the video as far as i know brick baby never shot nobody really as far as i actually i'm gonna do that i'm gonna do the thug thing brick baby would never shoot somebody. He's just talking on the internet. He ain't like that. Free break. He's got more skulls than you got squabbles.

2:59:00Skulls were a joke. Brick collects World War II memorabilia. He's got some skulls in his crib. They're all Nazis. Sparta sent 10 bucks. Said Flacco is disrespectful to not only LA culture, but black American culture, period. He should do videos on Liberia. The worst part i bet him and i grew up not even allowed to hang around black people well i grew up in jamaica so i'm assuming that he probably had to hang out with some black people that probably would be pretty difficult for him to not hang out also liberia probably a hard place to avoid black people um but interesting theory very interesting theory and should flocco run a channel called the war in liberia honestly that is a great idea i'm tuning in if you did a channel all about all the most fucked up shit that happens with African warlords.

2:59:47I mean, that is a great idea, honestly. Hey, bro. Do that, bro. Do that, bro. For real, bro. Because like and I don't dislike Flacco, but he forced my hand to say negative things about him. You know what I'm saying? You forced me. I have no choice. You do dumb shit. You say stupid shit. You say untrue shit. Yeah, war in Liberia. That's how I'm more like. The fuck? Hmm. Okay. Um... This guy said, how much does Mudge B charge for a feature? DM me. DM him. I'll talk over the net with the little Pisces and say, MB underscore the mayor, DM me. That way. Sparta said, Tupac did something to whack back in the day, and real question, can whack go back to his neighborhood to visit his childhood friends?

3:00:37Listen, enough whack stuff, but number one, I mean, all his homies told me that he goes there like it's no big deal. Who told you that? Isn't anybody telling you no shit like that? Yeah, yeah. Who told you? Lil Jon, they all say that. Lil Jon not from his neighborhood. Lil Jon's from Compton. The fuck? Listen, that's what they say. Lil Jon from the Douglas, he from the apartments. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Fuck this. Okay, again, enough about whack. Let's go to the next one. Tap ENT says, Adam. Not even from Two Peas. Adam, you are so hip-hop, right? Name four Cash Money and No Limit songs. You're not going to get me with the name five songs, but.

3:01:12The block is hot. The block is hot. Hot, hot. she get it for her mama come on me better get back that ass up hold on you ain't seen to back that ass up you don't think I seen back that ass up you need to do a TikTok to back that ass up that go viral I ain't backing my ass up for nothing no no no fuck that like the girl we were supposed to interview but she backed out back that ass up she did say she wants to come she said she was still down to come oh yeah tap me in back that ass up with you on the TikTok viral I need my 3 % Mr. John Doe said this was always the best setup I don't know why Adam kept doing the 5 people shit I mean is it that hard to understand why a 4 person podcast would want to try doing 5 guests that being said this is actually a big deal shit we have a new desk coming this is the Tuesday table but I'm saying we have a new desk coming that realistically is going to make it so that we can do 5-6 people podcasts in here without completely fucking it up now are we going to fall in love with it like past well really just this table it depends but we have a table coming that i'm pretty enthusiastic about all right fuck the expose we the pot of tickers we the pot of tickers right here this four fuck the exposers but we still need to be able to do a fifth guest nah man we the pot of tickers but we're gonna have a guest sometimes it's just like you know i've been doing this podcast for a long time there's gonna be times where you want to have a guest again or two but we the pot man These four, the politickers, fuck the exposures.

3:02:44Exposures make you feel like STD-ish. You got exposed to TB. I'm trying not to get exposed for that for sure. Please. Gerald Brofloski has been a member for six months. He said, hey, they was getting done bad on Oz. My mom would watch that and The Wire. I had to go back and watch them in order as an adult. I've never seen Oz. I love The Wire, though. I was traumatized. The Wire was goaded. I was not supposed to be watching that shit. I want to stay at home and long after that I thought I was Avon Barksdale Get a hold of yourself, sent 20 bucks Thank you very much by the way Adam22 asked Lush to play the new joint with Housephone Yamon Great Pod minus Kiwi Head Munchie I see you You have a song with Housephone?

3:03:26We have a couple songs together You just been in the stew with them or what? Nah, we've been Put on People buy features from both of you Yeah, yeah, yeah and it was pretty pretty pretty dope that's like i just seen a commercial and it was like the two main actors from scrubs and like the company had got them both to do this ad but obviously like everybody whoever watched that show is gonna see these two guys together and just think of like that show yeah so that's kind of funny somebody could buy a house phone and lusher feature and like kind of create their own no jumper reunion someone tried to do that with me and ad recently actually they tried to put me on like an ad song what you got funk with ad no no but it was just like it was you what you got a problem collabing with ad well they haven't been on camera together in a long time it was just somebody trying to like clout chase off of it they were going to get way more views to have the two of us on the same so why didn't happen because that would be a different price type shit you feel me the business didn't make sense so you turned it down or ad turned it down um i don't know if i turned it down i turned it down i don't know if he did or not but i so why you didn't hit ad and communicate with he and y 'all bargain at well i think that that's probably a conversation that could be had oh yeah my bad yeah my bad shout out to huncho mj for becoming a no jumper member and then uh i don't know how to read this nessian 680 said yo adam nh for sure he don't put it on hood but he put it on the Shire.

3:05:00Cheers, fellas. I like that. Shire is kind of foreign because to me, it's New Hampshire. There's no Shire on the Shire. Put it on the Shire. Shire gang. Shire gang. Shire gang. That's funny, dude. I'm a Shireño. No? Okay. Nas Clutch said, I fuck with Munchie, but stop going in on Lush Slime. Man, Munchie's my friend, bro. Man, I'll be back unless you're crazy as shit. Lush's my boy. Yeah, much of my friends talking about. We all love Lush. Man, now you glazing Lush. He done rubbed off on you. Now you little glazed. He ain't rubbing off on me. Little Chris. And I ain't making no homosexual TikToks neither.

3:05:39Who am I rubbing off on now? Yeah, I'll rub off on all y 'all. Whoever that is in the chat. XX said Lush, the next time Wack calls you to bully you, crash on that snitch, he really harmless. He picks on you because you let him. Show him that MacArthur Park meth rage. What? Park gang. Parkside. parkside baby mccarthur parkside uh okay casey mcclemore where'd it go mccarthur park gangsta blessed let him know let him know um okay casey said i'll pay the extra money that brandon wants just to keep him off the show this panel is fire but would be even better with suspect bro that's the craziest shit that a suspect apparently gotta go do some years yeah he ain't gonna do six years he's talking about four like four would be great now though He's talking about like his lawyer might be able to get him four.

3:06:30I guess if he gets four, maybe he does three. He's going to be like two. That is going to be wild to not see a suspect for that long. Man, hopefully the best outcome occurs for him. We definitely got to write whatever letters we got to write and all that and make sure. That way. Man, he's going to come out with so many good stories. For real. That's crazy. Okay. XX said when are y 'all going to have Cass Jones on the live pod to address all this bull stop letting them duck questions if you want answers come on 22 I don't fucking care about this I'm going to give Adam his credit Adam the only one they really give him pushback they challenge him he ain't going to get it nowhere else you know it's crazy like I feel like at the end of the day if people really want to see he's in clubhouse every day no no no You're not going to get a fair shake there.

3:07:22Knock that off. You're so dumb. No, I'm saying. But he go anywhere else. They're not going to give him no pitch. They're going to hear what he said. They're going to move on to the next. Adam, the only one to give him some pushback and challenge what he say. You know what I'm saying? You're only going to find that on the Adam and Winnie 100 show. That's it. Let them know. Log in. Snoop Will Pox at GoodPod. Y 'all should look up Shady telling Acho he hit joy at Fox Sports on Live. Look it up. that shit. I don't know who Shady is. I don't know who Acho is and Joy. I also don't know who Joy is. I've never watched Fox Sports, so whatever you're talking about, for sure, but I don't know.

3:08:02He hit Joy? I have no idea. Cartier C said Munchie Trippin Jalees so bad, I'll get on my Walter White-ish to get with her. Go Lions. I didn't say she wasn't pretty, bad, cute, ugly, or nothing. I didn't say none of that shit. Did this guy just say he's down to do meth to fuck Jalees? No, he's saying he's down to be the cook. he'll get on forever I love Jalees shout out Jalees I felt bad because I was kind of I made a little joke about her on the whack pod and I was like damn I feel bad Jalees is a good person when I was in the hospital yesterday she was one of the first people to text me like are you alright yeah shout sir appreciate you Jalees anyway Adam which is also my name said Adam that Billy Otto interview was fire but the Adam and Wax show been asked lately I feel like I'm watching one of Ant Hefe's videos damn took a couple shots right there that's crazy I'm gonna be real the new Adam and Wax show the views are significantly decent compared to a couple of recent episodes I feel like we might have a little dip but we're back in our groove and I mean Ant Hefe's channel is one of the best channels out right now man I watch Ant Hefe all the time he this motherfucker tricked me into watching a video right before i came on here because i'm thinking damn my boy d-man got beat up he's talking about it two years ago i'm like oh this ain't urgent no just like i don't be trying to get caught into the social media shit so one of these dickheads right they um went and pulled up an old video of an older dude from my community community at a gas station so he had a gas station hanging they pull in i don't know why he told him what he told them, but he told them a trade.

3:09:46They hopped on them, but you know to the, you know, people that's not in the streets and to these geeks or whether they kids, they don't know what's going on in the street. So you had a lot of people sending it to me like, oh man, what happened? They just hopped out in your hood and beat one of your OG homies up. You ain't gonna talk about this. Let's talk about it. No, his name was D-Mac. No. D-Mac is the kid who came on here. The older dude they got on, that ain't his name. You know what I'm saying? That ain't his name. D-Mac, for people that don't remember, was the kid who came on here. He didn't have a shirt on.

3:10:13He's like, decided that he's ops with suspect because I guess suspect ripped him off for a feature or some shit and then I think suspect realized that he's from the 90s and for whatever reason the one that hosts and shit so basically I uploaded like I'm got a problem with talking about what happened but if we gonna talk about that happening shit okay well let's talk about when the A-Trace caught D-Mac and did what they did to him and threw his shit on the wire on 83rd Normandy, so. Right. I recall. I don't. I'm going to watch when I leave. I recall. I don't recall. I recall. In my wood evil voice.

3:10:51I recall. Yes, ma 'am. Black Jesus Christ said, why were Winnie 100's gun charges dropped in the interest of justice? Have Byron Flake on Adam again. I like Byron Jake. Y 'all got to show the fuck out. I like Byron Jake. Wack is his own man. You can ask him to post him. I mean, I like Byron Jake. Alright, I don't really know him. Ishroy Charles said can we get a modern Banging on Wax EP hosted by Ann and Munchie B Adam can you interview Dave from the grave shout out Lust chug the rest of the big listen they did do another Banging on Wax nobody gave a fuck that's not true there is a sequel there's two sequels it was Damu Riders and Nationwide Rip Riders it was actually very successful really?

3:11:37man Man, you remember that? Hey, listen. The sequel to Banging on Wax? I don't even lie. I don't even listen to that type of music, bro. I did coming up. No, coming up? Yeah, for sure. But it wasn't that. Like with older homes, different people planted. But like, if I hear like right now, like, oh, yeah, the Banging on Wax or the Nationwide Ripe Ripe tape come out, I'm going to go get it. Nah, hell nah. I want to listen to the game dissing and all that shit. You don't listen to rappers just because they are from a certain hood at this point in 2025, right? The first Bloods and Crips Banging on Wax album, they were all on the same album and the second one was two separate albums.

3:12:15And one was blue and one was red. It was Donald Rodgers. But listen, our bookmark this, what you say, Banging on Wax for next week and this got to do with Wax while he don't like a specific artist banging on Wax and bookmark it. A major artist too. and he gonna know what I'm talking about when he hear this. Alright, let's keep going. I'm sick of talking about Wax. Tay 24K sent 10 bucks and said, Lush, when are you gonna interview your evil twin, Jay Worthy? I've been getting a lot of Jay Worthy comparisons. Jay Worthy the bro. He's hard. Jay Worthy the bro. Why they say evil twin? I asked him to do an interview.

3:12:53I asked him to do an interview probably a year ago and he said yes and then I never heard back about it. That'd be dope. Last time I talked to Jay Worthy, he was in Houston and shit. No, Jay Worthy, I think he just dropped some shit. I'm gonna hit him. I just remember he was there when YG fucking refused to shake my hand to those I heard about that night I just know Jay Worthy a dope MC I fuck with his music and all that for sure shout out to him and then almost done here Reem said when y 'all gonna introduce a Mexican co-host y 'all been on some Mexican K she's listen we evaluate hosts based on their talent as far as I can tell There is a war going on outside that no one is safe from between all the different Ross out podcast.

3:13:38Everybody trying to figure out who's the best, who getting, I mean, shit. Bo Jackman. What the fuck? But is it obvious to me? To me, it's obvious. Hater world is the biggest Mexican podcast, right? No, no. Is that not obvious? What's that called? The wood stock. Is he still doing that? He's not. He fell back, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that, so why, So why are you not doing the same thing on these expanding platforms, action-wise, no black people on here? Because who the fuck cares? They can do whatever they want. And they have been having a lot of hater roles. No, wait till my guest. He's talking about host.

3:14:14This person said host. Oh, yeah, fair enough. I think the biggest right now, low-key for being fair, is like Duno's pod. Hell no. But Duno's been here, though. When you ever heard anybody talk about that? The brown bag? That was many years ago since you. Because I'm going to be. All right. we gotta do the math I'm not trying to bash I'm just being real it's the brown bag there's the the food community podcast all facts do any of them have black co-hosts no so why are y 'all talking about this platform what we're talking about who the biggest Mexican podcast is why you don't have no expanding co-hosts oh i'm here oh i mean probably because it's a big enough platform that they actually expect that of us i mean i'm gonna be real the hater world or he began like 10k a stream and shit which is not too oh he he archives his old stuff too interesting uh he puts it for members only or whatever i mean yeah actually i hate to admit it but now i'm gonna go look at brown background pressure their numbers are significantly they are the biggest by far are they really but they don't really be talking about street shit right no that's the difference but that but that's not the question the question wasn't like the most banged out it was what's the biggest mexican i'm gonna be real though with the whole rasa is like if your goat pod is getting 25k episode y 'all are arguing over crumbs like you gotta expand this thing because like to me none of these numbers are really like that impressive for how many people have like talked about these platforms and stuff we maybe we should just ignore them until they get their views up i got the perfect female that's the Hispanic, that could be a podcaster.

3:15:59She's from San Diego, bro. Her name Nina Beretti. I know Nina real good. She would be good, bro. Yeah, Nina's fine. Who else is even in this conversation though? Brown Bag, Hater World, the all facts shit don't really get views like that. I'm going to be real. Oh, so you know Nina? I know Nina real good song, girl. She'd be good, bro. Yeah, Nina'd be popping it. Yeah. You guys just talking about some girl nobody ever heard of? No offense, but shout out her. I heard over she got at me. She came said some shit to me after my interview with Wack. She for sure going to make a whole bit after Adam is saying that right now.

3:16:36I'm just saying you guys got to give some fucking context if we're going to talk about somebody instead of just being like yeah Nina cool. I fuck with Nina. Everybody at home is like who the fuck is that? No Munchie just said I know a girl. Everybody knows. I know a Latina girl that would be a perfect co-host. A female that's brown side. that bit and he said he know her and I'm like oh you know her I'm just saying if you're gonna bring up somebody we probably should like have some kind of context right? Okay he's about to get some context boom somebody whack I know she I saw the album by the side like I didn't know of her or about her until like I said she like had added me in some shit that after I did the interview with whack and I just kind of like shot back at her like look alright for sure man you too beautiful I ain't about to argue with you you know what I'm saying type of shit I'll say this Nina is not afraid to talk her shit I'll say that about her She'll pop it I'm not about to pop it with you I'm not about to pop it with no woman that ain't mine Picture you No no no that ain't all that You just don't dislike Whack Whatever your views is that's your views If you're going to talk about her though we should be able to play a clip Or show her so that the audience is not like Oh good they're talking about somebody we never heard of Alright we're going to move on we're going to double back on it I'm just saying I was just throwing her name out there You feel me and then he say he know her.

3:17:54Yeah. Come with a clip so we can judge her and that might be good. She's going to make a whole video of being like, you know what I mean? Everybody know me. No, she ain't going to do that. No, yes, she is. No, she is. You're going to be like, Adam, what? You don't know me, Adam? No, she, yes, she is. She's always funny to this. One million percent. Everybody needs emotion. Nas Clutch said no glaze Munchy Yoaz just be on one sometimes Twin I fuck with you though from ATL heard you was an outstanding member Slime just keep your energy right I like that message because it feels Like that's exactly how he talks in real life But okay I'm out there this week Charlie Sheen said stop lying on my name Lush And Adam why is your mic louder Than your coast can you confirm that all Of our mics are on the same level Yeah You want me to take a picture of the fucking board That's not the real Charlie Sing.

3:18:50Are you sure? Look at that. Am I really going to post this on my story to prove this to one person? The real Charlie knows. Hey, and when I interviewed Kato Kaling, he told me he's never done drugs. Oh, okay. I didn't want to be like, yeah, my co-host Lush said you're a crackhead. He never done drugs. I don't know. I can show you pig to me and Kato Kaling. Look, Moose Man said, I Narcan'd Lush before the news last week, and he tried to force me to gnaws it when he woke up. Interesting. Is this true? No, that's pretty funny, though. Moose Man want to squabble with Tay F3rd, huh? Yeah. Okay. I mean, Tay F3rd's talking spicy, my boy.

3:19:32Look, he wants to pod with Tay F, and Tay F said he's down. But what I told Moose, don't be surprised if Tay F casually walk up to you before. He didn't need all that extra shit. Nigga, they already had their little back and forth. One thing I learned on this podcast is that all these gang members duck their shit as soon as a tuna wants a scrap. Damn. I've seen it happen a lot of times. I've seen the punsigator Doug Brandon. I'm watching TF3rd Doug Moose, man. Everybody. So, Brandon, is it a tuna or is he a crip? Actually, that's a good point. Brandon is a— See? I thought he was a retired crip, but I saw a clip of him where he was saying he's a current crip.

3:20:10So, shout out to all the crips. Ramiro Lopez said Hater World Squad number one and then multiple baby mamas said imagine Aunt Hefe no hoodie this is going to be crazy this has got borderline gay I'm not going to read that please thanks for the five bucks but that's an odd description Mr. John Doe said Munchie what can you see people be saying you can see shapes and shit do you see a little do you see a little lighting too I see your baby mama I see your bitch God's mystery said on the dead homies to the fed homies from a Piru to a police officer get wax new book on the setup exclusively for free 99 only on scamazon scamazon fire that was funny and then Mr.

3:21:04John Doe said TF3rd and Aunt Jefe are harmless listen how dare you don't you dare he is harmless bro they definitely law by citizens man this dude got a Jason mass on man look usually the people who don't know me that's exactly what they say and I'll be harmless until you make me not harmless for sure don't wind up in the wrong movie theater with this guy dump a whole thing of popcorn on your head oh and one more Indio Film said, love Aunt Jefe's jail stories, but why keep talking bad about Teaspoon from 60s? I only heard one story. You got more than one? Teaspoon? Bro, these people are weird, bro.

3:21:49They're digging in the crates. I mean, these people are weird, but this is the cool part about it, and I'm going to just keep it short, bro. That's not a fan? It don't matter if fan or not. You keep talking, but you don't know what you're talking about. And, like, the dude Teaspoon hit me, said the same thing. Hey, bro, why you keep bringing stories up with me? Look, bro, You know the deal bro You in jail with me bro Like I keep it It's PG-13 As a lot of Like I can be on With braids on With niggas bro Cause I stood on business And I know a lot of shit It's a lot of shit I don't say So let's just keep it there And I don't keep Making stories about Spoon I made one story About me and Spoon Getting down And another story About me getting down With somebody from 40's Behind T-Spoon So you know what I'm saying We gonna keep Keeping it PG-13 man And stop worrying about What ain't y 'all business dead homies shout out to everybody who watched this episode please do us a big big favor and smash a like on it drop a comment down below we're trying to get to 1000 likes by the end of the night is it possible we'll see make sure you're if you love no drummer you tune in tomorrow at noon for the news and uh the thursday show who are technically our ops check them out on thursday at noon so shout out to everybody watching this shout out to Munchie Lush and Anne Hefe the halfway shout out Donnie on the boards let's go