The No Jumper Show Ep # 444 w/ Tim Chantarangsu

29:08Yeah. So you're just a regular girl doing that. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. They would. Literally, you can't do that all the way down. Oh, Lord. Oh. Wow. Hot sauce. Hot sauce. Nice dark red daddy sauce there for you. Let's make a hot sauce and call it period blood. That would sound like crazy. actual. The sexy red shit. She had something like that. She had like a lipstick line. So wait, okay. You have been with your lady for how long? Let's see. We've been married for eight years. We've been together for 2026. It'll be 15 years in September. Wow. Does it feel good? Do you have any second thoughts?

29:46Anything we should know about? It's too late now, man. It's dope. We've been locked in. And look, I was giving you shit for being in love after four months, but this was a situation where after I had been hoing out, like I hung out with her and I was like, okay, I text the homie immediately. I'm like, yo, I'm in love. It's different. You know what I'm saying? After the first, I was like, yo, it's different. I'm in love. After the first date? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Pretty much. I mean, of course I was being, you know, like I was exactly caught up in the moment. But 15 years later, you knew 15 years later, two babies later, bang, bang.

30:18How about that? How soon is it that you guys know? So did you know, like, how long did it take for when you met Lena that you was like, yeah. To have a kid? No, that I'm going to be with her. Like, this is the woman I'm going to marry. Because he knew it after the first date. When did you know? I mean, I met her. And then maybe, like, six months later, we're, like, actually dating. And then begins, like, the slow process. Then, like, at some point, you stop cheating. And then you're like, oh, this is, like, getting a little bit more serious here. How about fucking other women? I'm like, I'm not cheating.

30:44That's crazy. Like, maybe I really care about her. You wake up after another one, like, do I feel bad about this? I feel a little guilty about this. it's really just you get caught a bunch of times like if i never got caught i wouldn't felt bad makes you feel really bad and a bad cheater you were popping when you met your uh wife then you were already pretty popping i had already kind of a couple years at least yeah i had some time to just like hoe out and like it luckily for me the the whole year of my life kind of was synonymous with when i was like on tour and the youtube shit had been popping for a little bit so i had time to really get out my system but you never ran into those feelings like you know is she messing with me for me or you know i'm saying does she like timothy day legetto better you know the thing about she didn't know who i was when we met we kind of had like a year of just communicating you know i'm saying because she was she was it was long distance she was canadian so we had some time to kind of get to know each other before we even really actually so we were communicating before the first like date you feel me um so and for her i never felt that because i'm like she's dope her her vibe was always like look man uh i got my own shit going on like she had a nail salon in canada like she had money already like she had her own shit going on you know i'm saying so it was like that was never really in the back of my mind and in the back of my mind like if that was the case and we broke up then okay it is what it is and we broke up it was worth a try for sure yeah because i definitely had to try i used to be like i would never try a long distance relationship until i met her and i thought if i don't at least give it a try i'll like regret it forever you know but don't i feel like the era of youtube that you come from is the same as me in a sense where it's like if you have a new girlfriend you're making a youtube video about that you're just like putting it out there where it's like a huge percentage of people i know now are not really just like laying everything out there for the world but back in the day especially they said daily you were a daily vlogger at one point right damn near right yes here's the thing too right i learned my less than low key because I was daily vlogging with my ex so I kind of um was able to take from that like maybe I shouldn't be so shouldn't put all of it out so fast and and also you know my wife when we first started dating I knew she was a private person she didn't fuck with the camera like that she wasn't trying to be on camera so I kept it pretty low key for a while until I felt she was comfortable you know what I'm saying so I was like okay let me not take the camera out every day like i was doing before and just chill see what's going on test the temperature a little bit let me ask you something you're out in public you're at the fucking yogurt shop and you see a white man in a relationship with an asian queen yeah yeah yeah there a little bit of you that because this is like a real thing in the black community if a black dude sees me with a beautiful black woman.

33:32Oh, we hot. We're on your ass. Like, even if nothing is said, you can cut the tension with a knife. I think it's worse the other way around. I think the white guys are more mad at the black guy with the bad white wife. Some black guys, like, who might not be, like, super in touch with their blackness might not care, but if you a real black guy, you're looking at me a little bit. There's always a part of me, when I see a black woman with a white man, I'm like, what the fuck's he doing with you? Well, look, from my experience, well, first, let me speak on that, because, like, as, because my wife is half black, And so I've never had anybody angry at me about that.

34:04If anything, I've got like some complimenty compliments. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, he got himself a sister. Oh, OK. Right. Like, oh, yeah, where you find her at? That type of shit, right? Or you might get the occasional, he don't know what to do with all that ass girl, something like that. Right. But it's never been on some like standoffishness. Right. Right. Well, I feel like, you know, if someone saw you with a black girl, have you ever had that experience, though? Not really. See what I'm saying? For me, if I saw a white dude with an Asian girl, no, I'm not salty about it. I just think maybe just growing up in L.A., everybody's just mixing out here.

34:41Everybody's swirling. I don't feel any type of way about it. I do pull her aside and be like, are you good? Are you okay? Do you know her? Bleak twice. You go to school with her. Are you being sex trafficked? You know what I'm saying? Just to make sure she's good. Hey, come here. Are you okay? And then if it's all good. That's true. Hand her a piece of paper with a safe word on it. You good? Yes. No. Mark. Scream. Scream. Scream no jumper if you're in trouble. I think that's like the most common couple is white guy, Asian woman in America today. Like interracial couples. Well, like a lot of the most successful white men, like the Mark Zuckerbergs of this world, you know, somehow.

35:22Snatch them up as Asian white. that's what they need you know i think it's a college thing too you know there's a lot of asians in college with the nerds and stuff white men and asian women just kind of come together yeah they come together at the colleges yeah education like i'm sure there's people that are salty about it on on in whenever whenever there's a couple that's mixed right you know who do you think cares the least what race cares the least about that probably whites well not because of the whites but yeah because the whites you see a black guy with a hot white wife yeah i thought about like a lot of The ex-comments section is not going to like that.

35:55Yeah. Mexicans be tripping over, you know, our girls dating black dudes. I think it's probably Mexicans. Nah, nah. They be tripping sometimes. If black dudes want to catch feelings about white guys dating black women, then the black dudes should actually start dating black women. I think they care the least because they be exploring more than other races. I mean, black women feel shunned by black men oftentimes. They do. And that's why Moose fans here for you. We're all the black queens. I got you. Don't worry. and Tim before he got married, obviously. Yes, I mean, I did wife a half once. Shout out to the half people.

36:26No one's taking that away from him. So Tim, let me ask you this. You've been in YouTube since what, 06? Yeah, 06, yeah. How does it feel to be one of the forefathers of this YouTube shit? You got to dub in. You were the first YouTuber I ever saw on YouTube, by the way. Well, damn. And when I was talking to Sue By Fire the other day, who basically was kind of like the first young, lit black dude on YouTube, your name came up when he was listing off his early influences. so that kind of says a lot well crazy shit first time i met super high hot fire shout out to deshaun raw man good dude um and i feel like definitely uh innovative um guy with his sketches back in the day first time i linked up with him he was like bro i used to watch your vlogs every day you know i'm saying so i know yes i've been doing it for a long time this will be you know my 20th year on youtube that's so far it's crazy um it's dope man look i feel like um i owe a lot to youtube you know i'm saying i got on that shit just because i was just you know i was out here just trying to be an actor you know i was trying to see whatever way i could find my way in there before youtube before i found youtube i was on myspace uploading rap songs you know like just trying to figure out how to get on and i think i i hopped on uh pretty i mean obviously like really early so that helps it also helped that there weren't um a lot of people starting off back then they didn't know what the fuck it was and it helped that like you know there's a whole asian community of people who you know they didn't see asian people on the tv or movies or you know rapping or being stupid like i was so a lot of people identified with me and were like okay finally i'm seeing somebody that reminds me it's like bobby lee and you pretty much was the ones that was popping damn near around that time like you were technically on youtube before they even started monetizing for people right i was making no money that's crazy there was no such thing as monetization back then.

38:13So you were just doing it for the love of the game. I was just trying to, I was like, let me see if this shit might do something. You know? I was just, I would take little stupid webcam videos, put it on my MySpace to see if like, oh, okay, let me make the homies laugh. Make my little MySpace friends laugh. And then I started to hit these like most viewed lists on YouTube. And I thought, okay, this might, this might be useful. And how old were you when this shit was happening? Don't worry about all that, dog. So when did you, when did you know? I was permanently young. I mean, yeah, he hasn't aged one bit.

38:43Don't make me admit that I'm 56. How far into your YouTube career did you know, you know what? I can do this full time and this could be my bread and butter. It started to catch some juice just when I was getting views. And then when the money started coming in a little bit, because I was still in college when my first couple videos started doing well and when dudes were like, oh, hey, YouTube guy. You know what I'm saying? and then um i was still working at california pizza kitchen slanging pizzas and then i had got fired from cpk the same week where i won this contest a youtube contest that like got me like 15 g's that i was like okay i can actually use some money to live off for a little bit and just do this and just go hard and then so i just started going hard and then um and then having you know then i haven't worked a real job since and that was probably like 2010 It's a beautiful thing.

39:40Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. Look at us, man. You know, hey, wow. 20 years later. Do you miss MySpace? Do you think like a MySpace like re-rock could come back and be successful? Because I always look at that. It still exists. Yeah, it does. But I just saw that news coming out that Blink-182 dropped like their new single on MySpace, which I got to assume that MySpace like gave them money to do that. Yeah, because I remember when Tom sold it and then like another company tried to revive. It's very bare bones though when I went to go on there. I don't think I have access to the email that I used to use for my space.

40:12Yeah. Like some of your photos will be gone and stuff like that. Like you could log in, but, but I felt like that was like the best, uh, social media where like with the customization or you're typing in the codes and changing the backgrounds top eight member to top. Yeah. I had top 16, top 30 literally blew up because it eradicated that. Yeah. That specifically was the thing that so many people hated about my space. and then once you got to facebook and everything was clean and set up for you yeah it's like oh it's just photos and then like you know because remember how basic facebook was yeah yeah that's why i hated it as a kid and my space was so much cooler like go to the layout uh website copy a layout code but take it back can i ask this what's the most offended you've ever been as an asian person in your life by anything like in pop culture that made asian people look bad or whatever was it crazy rich asians was it china mac was it was it the shane gillis comments that he got canceled off snl for like a pop-in was it andrew yang um no you're saying a bad representation of asian community that like made you feel like this is like what was your this don't make asians look good there had to be i mean look of course i wouldn't say there was anything pop culturally I can remember right off the bat that I was like, I'm highly bothered by this, right?

41:38I mean, of course, you know, there was the wave of like during the Stop Asian Hate. I was going to bring that in. When, you know, it did seem like there was an upscale of attacks on Asian people, like randomly. And I was like, normally I don't make a video or statement on something unless I feel like I'm adding something new to the conversation or else I feel like I'm just saying shit people want to hear. yeah but i did feel like i needed to just be like hey guys uh like what the fuck is going on you know because i feel like stop asian hate was kind of short-lived because at some point the asians who were raising this concern realized that it was all black people who were beating up the old asian people i mean it was like it was all types of shit going on right and there was um there was one case specifically where there was like an old asian man that randomly got tackled by a young black dude and it's like you know but at the same time you know uh you can't you can't attach one thing to everybody you know i'm saying but for me it was just like all right let's let's i felt like i i only needed to say something because i know like sometimes you get fed an algorithm and you might not see what's happening on other people's timelines and i know that i have a pretty diverse following so i wanted to be like hey y 'all just in case you didn't know uh asian people getting beat up probably stop maybe uh hey let's uh let's stop that and it was covid you know a president was saying it's the chinese virus you know there was a lot of bad press for i was just watching something about how the lab leak thing is like total bullshit and that it was only really pushed through because it helped to kind of like obscure the fact that trump was the one who like rushed the vaccines through interesting you like created like more noise around that the lab leak yeah i've I'm already comparing things to that.

43:20Are you an exotic Asian, too, because you tie? I am. I am. Southeast Asian. Yep, yep, yep. That's hard, though. That's good. Let me ask you this, Tim. You do a lot of different stuff, right? Can I waterfall that? What? Yeah, for sure. Thanks. It's just weird when you didn't let you get the blunt. This is a personal. Yeah. All right. So you do a lot of things. You do music. You do all in out. You do a podcast. Shout out to No Chaser. You do acting. You do all these things. Money doesn't matter. but you can only do one of these things for the rest of your life out of all the things you do which one are you doing and why um man you know what i think after a long time of doing all types of shit you know like you know i talked to you recently right i've been trying to write a movie for like the past three years and i'm like oh word word no no him not me it's about no jumper and i finally got my shit written right and now i'm like and i i actually might um i'm getting the moving the puzzle pieces to get it made and i'm like oh man it'd be so easy if i was just rich and i could just get this shit done right and i'm having so much fun uh figuring out the filmmaking process after making little like five minute sketches on youtube right so now it's like i'm taking it i'm trying to do this on such a larger scale like i love making music right like i really do right traffic bars and shit like that too and the people that fuck with the music enjoy the music um but i feel like for me uh i really do i think through everything i found out one of the most fulfilling things is is when you make someone laugh and you feel like okay you really made their day and you really you know took them out of whatever slump they might have been in so if i feel like if i can help someone escape and have them just you know as cliche as it sounds just have like a brighter day feel better have a little laugh yuck it up a bit then um you know i would just make movies bro like movies yeah that's fine is uh that in reference to the high school sucks movie because out of all the uh questions that were sent to me when i posted that we're doing a pod with you that was the one that was most requested that is it dead in the water is what you know what's that okay so so to get familiar with the lore adam 22 um sucks back high school sucks the musical i see like a reddit post about how high school sucks the musical why is there a high school reddit it's just called high school it's just every high schooler on earth that's why it's relatable bro high school sucks musical so back in like 2012 uh me and the homies had put out a couple viral music videos there's one called kings of myspace and some other shit so we got the opportunity through a film company they gave us a little bag uh and we we were like Let's make a musical about high school, but make songs about shit that people don't normally talk about.

46:03Like, you losing your virginity and shit like that, right? J. Cole beat us to it. Yeah, right? And getting boners in class and shit like that. So we did the whole thing. I wrote like 80 % of the music. We recorded a whole ass album. We filmed this thing. But because it was such a small bag, we ran out of money, right? And we didn't know. We were like stupid ass, I don't know, 19-year-olds, 20-year-olds. We signed a stupid ass contract and we were like, yo, we need more money. Movie company wasn't trying to give us any more money. So it just never got done. And then so they, since they had the rights to it, it sat on a shelf for like years.

46:40Years later, another company bought the rights, gave us money to finish it. We finished it. But then they also never put it out. So fast forward to now, literally last few months, my boy, Pedro, Pedro Flores, he just recently found like oh shit it's been long enough look through like a loophole in the contract he's like i could probably get this shit back so he's been having little screenings even though he made this shit like like 15 years ago you feel me uh 10 15 years ago so he's trying to see like what's good now that we got to be now we got like all types of different ways to get it out we're trying to figure out a way so it's not dead in the water that's all they wanted to know 16 years ago the uh the intro theme was uploaded so this is like not a new thing so yes 15 16 Six million views, too.

47:25So at some point, people were very excited about this. At some point, yes. It's got to save a lot of day, man. The behind-the-scenes of the YouTube Stars trailer has 80 million views. Like, come on, man. He's going crazy. That was me cultivating people more. No, for sure. Yeah, yeah. That's what all the comments on that video say. But it worked. You the OG of the shit. Yo, is there a certain extent to which you feel like YouTube is just, like, kind of dead as opposed to, like, how it used to be? Because I'm kind of constantly reminded about the fact that it used to be so much easier to get views in the early days and now it just feels so unbelievably competitive in comparison yeah i mean it's it is because you know back then like i said there wasn't a whole lot of people there weren't as many people doing it right and now also you got like tiktok you got snapchat you got all these different avenues to get your shit out it used to be like the only option was youtube right yeah so you dropped it on something on youtube everybody's going there and youtube actually has like restrictions in comparison to tiktok where like tiktok it's ad free you see it on your phone it's so easy you skip to the next thing it's like nothing whereas youtube in comparison you have to watch ads average youtube clip is like longer oh granted they have shorts and everything now but in terms of like getting people to watch long form shit it just feels so much more difficult i know like you can't even send somebody a youtube link then i gonna click it but whereas you send somebody a real and you feel like it's kind of rude if they don't click it right no for sure it's so little commitment it's 40 seconds i'm saying if i should do a 10 minute vlog it's like me asking you to read a book i know literally these phones got fucked up bro and that's the thing and it doesn't translate right i'll post a clip you know you post a clip of a podcast it'll get two million views but nobody's like let me go watch the whole episode see what they're talking about i saw the best part right here exactly the highlights no one gives a fuck and now like people used to just clip stuff because it was just like they liked it and that were fans of it and now clipping is this huge business i know and it's kind of crazy because you're like paying people to clip content so that they will like maybe go watch your live stream and like i don't care if you watch my fucking live stream for eight hours you're contributing like 10 cents 20 cents to the bottom line like it's just so like not really worth it but like when i think about how much stuff was going viral like you know in 2016 2017 2018 it was like all the time but like you know it wasn't there was no like mechanism to make it happen yeah it's like creating that ecosystem the lore of like oh everywhere i go every time i open up this app all i see is adam 22 and that's kind of what the clippers effect is i feel like it's like clap i can't get them out of my fucking head it's because there's a million clippers people just people just be doing shit just for clips now you know what i'm saying it's like we're not even talking about nothing let's just talk about what turns into a good clip you know let me ask both you guys this because i know you guys both might have a little bit more insight than than uh moose and I do you guys know off rip like when you see a video that you're about to upload like yeah this is for sure going viral I know that it is like is it something that you know or is it something that you just throw everything against the wall just see what sticks and it's today the most random time I mean with my content it's mostly like this person talks about this and I can kind of judge like how famous is that person or how interesting is that person to people and then the thing that they're talking about how interesting is that thing so sometimes I'm a little surprised like i was surprised that the adrian broner talking about if he'll ever quit alcohol that got like 300k on like a day or two i was like a little surprised by that but also when i posted it you know i kind of know that like that's sort of like the main thing that people are fascinated by with him so it's like i'm usually not that surprised but what will be surprising is over time six months later you see a clip that was like not a big deal when you posted it and then like all of a sudden people like really care and you're like oh like that was like more impactful than i realized Or you'll get like an influx of mean comments.

51:11I'm like, oh, everyone's calling me a chink today. Oh, I get an algorithm. Oh, shit. Some TikTok went viral. Yeah, okay, okay. We met motherfuckers are mean today. That means I hit someone's algorithm, baby. Let's go. And I haven't seen you do a thing in a while where like something happens to somebody and you drop like the rewind clip like Vlad. Because I remember you did that like one time and everybody gave you like a bunch of flack for somebody dying or something. I used to do a lot, but it feels, I mean, Vlad still does it. Yeah, he still re-rocks it when someone dies for sure. It's kind of like worth it because it's good to just have that footage in the algorithm again, but then at the same time, you get so much shit for it, even though I disagree with the reason why they're talking shit, but it doesn't change the fact that it will just produce a huge outflow of...

51:55And no matter... The more well-targeted the clip is, like if a rapper dies from taking pills and then we re-upload a clip of that rapper talking about taking pills i take 80 a day and if he will ever die or whatever like from this thing like which is like it's so well suited to like doing a throwback clip that it's just so obvious to do it but you know the more targeted it is the more that people will be horrified that being said it's like everyone else is gonna do it for you you know like everyone else if this clip of this guy who just died like if there is a clip about fucking oliver tree taking a helicopter ride it is going to be a insanely viral tweet slash instagram post etc but if you as the person who did that interview upload it and it's just like you're just gonna get such a negative reaction and like for me i don't even really think about it like you know i don't have somebody on the team where i'm like hey you gotta find a throwback clip per day which we've done that in the past but it's just i don't know it feels like a lot of effort for stuff that like usually it doesn't really move the needle and then if it does move the needle it's because of something like horrific or sad or fucked up the hate that comes with it too yeah yeah like i saw all over tree talking about like oh this is what's going to be in my will in like a podcast like yeah now that's going to come out super viral yeah any of you guys know him no i mean i had an ex i used to listen to him a lot so yeah it was like kind of a little happy he actually had some very what like you know because she's a fan so that means like my ex will be sad that he passed away you know it's kind of like that type of thing but there's actually there's a piece of all of her tree take right there i'm just being honest no there's actually like some like really like eerie eerie clips coming out now about him talking about like when you know if you know if and when he dies like his music sales will probably go up and you know talking about what he's gonna leave to his kids stuff and it's just like damn that was kind of forecast yeah he set up a grant they said where it's like he's not gonna give any money to his family it's all gonna go to like up-and-coming artists and stuff yeah that's pretty cool it's weird to think about like you know if i die tomorrow like bro you know how many times i've talked about dying on here yeah i've heard about death so much yeah i love talking about death and then they're gonna be like see he spoke it into existence every rapper that gets killed like you see you gotta watch what you say he said he was gonna die one day and he died one day and they have websites that basically will like search the transcripts of all your youtube videos because sometimes that's occurred to me in the past like how did somebody remember that there was a clip from five years ago this guy talking about this and then he died or whatever but like you know like they don't even have to like really like there's like entire databases where they can search your transcripts so they don't have to be a big fan they could just that makes a lot more yeah which is that's kind of freaky we need to get on that yeah look if i die man just make sure the asian jokes are good jokes and not basic shit get creative please Just make sure the jokes are created This should be so easy Sometimes dog Give me a good joke If I die Me doing the eulogy Tim was a great man But Scary motherfucker I do it for you Here's what you don't make Probably died in a car accident This fool probably choked on some dogs His eyes are really closed now Hey Okay Not bad I'm looking down at Tim in his casket the same way that Tim used to look down at his tiny shriveled penis.

55:17Something like that. Basic shit, Ike. Do better. Do better. It sold him the right way. I can't believe you just said that. Wow. I don't know what got him. Was it the MSG and the orange chicken or was it the Kung Fu? Okay. I mean, it's just, I was trying to think, I left a loaded gun on set. Bruce Lee, son. We're following your direction. Also, MSG is not that bad for you. That's what I heard too. I was reading that, yeah. Yeah, I heard that too. Really? It's not? Yeah, it's like jumping in the pool after you eat. It's just a myth. Really? But no, I feel like when you eat it though, you be hungry.

55:51Isn't MSG the thing that makes you hungry right now? That's just you. That's just the bad thing. No, because when you eat Chinese food, you be hungry again. Like, I want some more. That's just me. I am stuffed when I eat Chinese food. You're stuffed when you eat egg foo young? When I eat Chinese food, it's either like me and my wife order like an absurd amount of it off of some spot on postmates and it's like way too much to eat and i eat more than i should eat or this has only happened like two times since i worked here but i'll stop at that fucking panda express on the way back and it's it's gotta be like 1600 calories for the fucking meal it's so much food and it doesn't feel like a lot you just scarf it down but that is like your whole day's worth the calories right there.

56:36Side note, I don't know if y 'all know, I'm going to put y 'all up on some fat boy game. I know you know. I probably know. The barbecue brisket. Oh, I was just going to say that. It's so good. Brother. It's so good. That Panda Express. Yes. It just came out. It's great. Bro, it's better than the orange chicken, bro. It's better than the orange chicken. I got some spicy chicken from one in Vegas the other day when we were doing interviews. We went to Panda Express and I got some spicy chicken. It was so fucking hot. It's a dynamite shit. It's like the hottest one they got ever. Get that barbecue brisket.

57:02I also fuck with Panda Express. You know what I'm saying? People be like, it's not real Chinese food, obviously. But also in the same way, we live in LA, you can get some amazing authentic tacos and you go to Taco Bell and get some amazing fucking gorditas as well. Chipotle is good for what it is. I think not exactly what Mexican food is, but it's a good version of it. It's two different types of shit. I think Americanized Chinese and Italian food is better than the real deal. I'm just going to put it out there. Hot tanks. Oh, whoa. I mean, listen, if you go to China, if you like Chinese food in America, you'll be massively let down.

57:38There are no similarities. Fire, though. Really? No offense. I want to know more about this. Go to China and try to find orange chicken. Yeah, my boy who went to China said it's like, orange chicken was invented out here. Like a lot of Mexican food was invented out here. Is the chow mein and the rice at least good out there and the broccoli beef? I mean from my experience I don't know that I saw like any of those things it would depend right it would depend because there's also a thing where it's like Chinese food that was invented out here is also now it's like you'll go to someone in China and be like okay we have American Chinese food they'll do it really good right so it really depends it's like it's taking on a life of its own where you know you can find good shit you can find the right shit but like authentic you know authentic Chinese food wherever you're at is probably not going to be what you're used to you know Chad GBT confirms that you might find it at American style Chinese restaurants that cater to tourists or expats or at restaurants that are serving overseas Chinese cuisine but for the most part the average restaurant in China not even just orange chicken but that like breaded fried shit they don't do it they don't have it Tim can I get your support in the Yoshinoya hate I went there recently.

58:54I just moved to L.A. Not too long ago. Where? From Sacramento. Yeah, he's from my backyard. Okay, okay, okay. That was the worst restaurant I've ever been to. The worst food I've ever paid for and actually eaten. Panda Express is eight year in comparison. It's like Gordon Ramsay cooked Panda compared to that. I haven't been to Yoshinoya probably since I was a little kid, which is when it used to be good. Okay. So I couldn't even tell. I went to Yoshinoya a bunch of times in Japan, and it's great. It's simple. It's like basic ass Japanese food. And they don't have like literally anything that's on the menu.

59:27Oh, yeah. I heard you also know in Japan is completely different. And it's respectable. It's like 7-Eleven. But it's like really like cheap standard, like basic, you know, fucking super like rice or chicken, whatever, like basic shit. That's how it was here. But it was just like tweaker food, too. Here it's ghetto, like the most ghetto Asian food you can find. Yeah, it was horrible. Is it safe to say that Jollibee is taking over the fried chicken game? But that's Filipino. That's like a different category. It's better than Popeye's. I just know Asians go crazy over Jollibee's. Jollibee's? Are you dipping in a gravy?

59:59I worked in healthcare. They're getting that. Oh, my. All the nurses busting down a bucket. Jollibee is pretty busting indeed. You make sure you got to get the spicy. You got to get the spicy with the gravy. And have you seen the super big bag hack they be doing online where they peel the skin off? Oh, yeah. Put the rice in there. And their spaghetti is lit, too. No, the spaghetti is all bad. It's not my favorite. It's hot dogs, sweet sauce, and it's ketchup. Make you remember the hood. I love spaghetti and hot dogs. I don't fuck with the sweet that much. Yeah, the sweet is horrible. But speaking of feeding children, I got to get back to my kids.

1:00:33We appreciate you making some time for us, Tim. Sorry to leave y 'all. No, I appreciate the YouTube legend, man. I appreciate you guys stopping by. Two-hour commitment is crazy. I'll tap in with you, bro. Thanks, Tim. Shout out to Tim, man. Hey, we got to show him that we know about some Asian shit. Oh, God. Yeah. like yoshinoya am i right yeah you hate it too panda's good yeah panda's good right this guy gets it don't even serve panda you ever notice that hey man that was cool that was fire shout out to tim we're meeting all the doughboys friends man super cool i feel way more comfortable i mean this podcast is kind of changing from like it was supposed to be just us talking about non-hip-hop non-street topics and then slowly transforming into like let's have every person that Doughboy's ever met in his entire life on the podcast.

1:01:21No, that was just one other person. Only had him and Nick. We didn't put Craig on the podcast. But I think that's better than us just discussing Doughboy's life every episode too. And we talked about a bunch of things with him that was non-Hip-Hop related and mostly Asian related. And I feel like they give a good perspective on Doughboy that gives people a different outlook. How are you guys feeling about the Monday show 90 days in? I like it. I definitely like it. I mean, it's better than the Tuesday show right now. I know that for sure. Yeah, come on. We did good numbers, but we had like 60K for last week.

1:01:51Come on. That was just us three. Sorry. Come on, man. We got a clean 80 on the Tuesday. Okay, but we're coming. That's grandfathered in. With Spody and Munchie, we're doing like 100, maybe 120. So, like, they leave and we still do 80. But listen, like, we were trying shit last week. We tried whatever we bring, Ricky, and we tried what if we get this knife-wielding maniac named Chunky Bobby. What's going on with that? I was looking at the group chat. What's going on with that? somebody was trying to convince me that was a play i'm like this is not a play like she's playing she's bleeding they're like could be fake blood i'm like you guys are too deep people who don't know what we're talking about who aren't like 100 deep in the lore basically like chunky barbie from a rolling 90s was kind of recommended by a few different dudes that we try around on the podcast whatever she is cool but i mean i'm not gonna lie like did she really like contribute that much on tuesday it was kind of like you know like pulling teeth because she like even like she said she loves to get drunk i'm like what do you like to drink she's like what do i not like to drink i like to drink everything like she's like kind of like not refusing to be specific or the jay hood video where she dissed jay hood because we watched on the news it was a funny ass video she would have you know opened that up and kind of you know had a little jousting with jay hood that would have been entertaining but she was like just bring it up adam watch the video i'm like just explain the fucking video i want to know what's going on this is about just tell us just very mysterious but uh you know like even uh i don't know like i kind of like wonder what the future holds for those dudes who left because still till now i like don't really feel like anything was done to them that would like make it so that it would not make sense for them to come back and honestly i got a big long text from sweaty face the other day uh that was basically like, I don't want to say like big and long like it's possible to make it like he's like pleading with me or anything.

1:03:41But it was basically like him saying, bruh, I'm sorry. And don't let Wack fuck over the fact that me and you are cool. Like, like basically because Wack was like, you know, always trying to propagate like a narrative that Spuddyface hates me or is talking shit or whatever. And Spuddyface basically is saying like, I got nothing against you. I got nothing against No Jumper. I'm not talking shit. That's not what I'm on at all. And I was like, hey, I appreciate that. I fuck with you too. I got no reason to not fuck with you. So is what it is. But you were running with some Wack narratives on Spuddy that came directly from Wack and pretty much that's it.

1:04:13So I feel like, you know, I ain't lying. That's all I'm saying. I got his cap. I don't know why you are such a Spody face gun truther. Because it's just like it doesn't make any sense. You know, so I've known Spody for a short amount of time. I've known all these guys for a short amount of time. It's not adding up. I think I'm a pretty logical guy. I thought about it too. I can tell you off camera shit that would make you 100 % realize that you're wrong. Then tell me. I can't wait. I can't wait till off camera. Yeah, I would never see that too. But yeah, Munchie even said on, I believe it was the platform that Adam doesn't like, you know.

1:04:41He's back on Fig. He said, can you stop talking about him posting him then? Back on Fig? What? Can we just like stop posting about him? Like it was like, yeah, you know, I got sucked into watching this clip. And it's back like, why are we posting that? Everybody calling me out because I'm playing poker yesterday. And there's one clip where you can see in the background that I was watching back on Fig, which I did get sucked in because I wanted to hear Solis talk about why he doesn't like back on Big Sad. Yeah. He was calling Big Sad a snitch, which really stood out to me. that because I at the time I didn't remember that Big Sad had a whole little anti-OTR campaign at one point so I wanted to see that clip I don't know why that's a scandal yeah just as a no jumper lover the only thing that's more annoying than like back on fig sucking up every fucking host that leaves is Adam posting back on fig like on a weekly basis the one refreshing thing like whatever the future may hold for for sporty or for munchy I hope they both come back but whatever the future may hold it was refreshing to see people leave and not start talking shit about the platform or you so I Oh, yeah, yeah, because that's what Munchie said.

1:05:41Munchie was super cool. They go on back on Fig, and then the clips make it seem like they're talking shit. No, Munchie was mad cool. He actually said you and T-Rail should just squash that shit and be cool. But obviously, they got to click bait. They got to do the content. I don't know about him and Ralphie, so. Just kidding. Obviously, I haven't seen this, but look at this title. I guess it's not that bad. Spody Face on J-Hood fight Adam 22 racist rant. I love that. That's still kind of bad, but it's not as bad as, I think it was worse before because it - It was. It was like Adam 22's disgusting behavior.

1:06:18Disgusting racist behavior. They changed it, right? Wow. It must not have been doing any good enough numbers. We all done that. It's not him. Let me change it. No, but they made it worse because it was like more intriguing at first. I feel like - No, for sure. Yeah. That almost makes it seem like Spody Face told them, like, why did you title it like that? That's okay. but neither one of them was talking crazy so that was at least refreshing because I always just frown up so much it's like man if you gotta go your separate ways just go your separate ways you ain't gotta start talking shit I just don't prefer it saying like yeah Spody was scared of fighting when he got the whoopty wop is also him talking shit so if they talk shit it's like you know it's a little fair you know we gotta do fair systems over here it's a spin game telling people the truth the hardest thing about that for me to believe is I don't believe if a whoop-de-wop was pulled, how could both sit down and talk to each other for two hours?

1:07:10Because if somebody pulled whoop-wop on me, I'm not going to want to talk to each other. You're preaching to the choir. There's a difference between pulled and clutching. Yeah, a situation in which it's obvious that it is there, and it's, you know, threatening, but it's not immediately whatever. And then maybe you have a conversation after. Also, it's like, let's be real, all these guys are gun-toting maniacs. I mean it's like they're like cowboys pretty much it's just not as crazy as it is to us if I put a gun on you it would probably be like the most traumatic thing that ever happened in your whole life I would fucking burst into flames that would probably be a good time for sure but I wouldn't want to sit down and talk to you for two hours after that no don't kill me he probably has guns pulled on him all the time yeah so probably he just survives he just lives he grabs the gun and puts it to his forehead like do it dude I tried so hard to find a screenshot of the moment in the naked gun where the guy's trying to rob Leslie Nielsen and he sticks his finger in the gun.

1:08:06That screenshot does not exist on YouTube. You have to create it. With that, so many narratives come out. I didn't know which one to believe, so I was just like, well, whatever. It was just, because there was just different variations of what it could have been. I was just like, well, bottom line is they came back in and they talked about it, so it must not have been that bad. But then the story of it was never wanted to come back. Which is kind of like, well, what changed? But then that also goes against the... but can I say that when we did the podcast with Craig Smith the other day it did stand out to me that like that podcast made me feel like oh like maybe like No Jumper like having like the one night of the week that's just like the most gangster squad imaginable maybe that's just like not really necessary maybe maybe it'll take a little bit but maybe we really need to lean into like cleaning up the platform's image which is something that i've always been very resisted to because i love the fuck shit i love playing in the fucking sewer you know and i love the sewer itself and i love the gangsters and i love the gun-toting maniacs etc but like you know like maybe there's a world in which maybe we reupholster the walls we don't have the the whacked out murals on the wall it's like a bookcase wrapping paper yeah maybe we have like you know fake suits that every single person puts on so you're not it's like a like a class uniform you're like not required to come in and your coolest street we're like streamer university pretty much you know and maybe like we get you know just like shit looks a little different maybe we like you know there's so many little things that we could do to clean up no jumpers image and it's not like it would going to affect immediately but over time gradually maybe that is what we should do i couldn't agree more i think there should be more i think and and even with my personal experience here that podcast with with us three that day it was my favorite space here just because it just felt fun it just felt like we were just talking it just felt like i was just hanging with the homies just we was talking about random shit from pegging to racism and jokes and it just felt so freeing and fun and that's why I feel like I'm in my best element I can be best served when it's conversations like that or even conversations like this we just went on a 30-minute tangent about relationships we did for like the first half hour that Tim thing we were just talking about love and whatnot and I was actually weird to see the chat being like oh fuck like Adam like this is kind of a revealing uh origin story because I I forget how crazy my friends double teaming this girl while she ate her period blood really is like how to fuck anybody up bro it didn't like fuck me up it took me a few days to like wrap my head around it though yeah like how could i be so wrong about a woman kind of that type of thing for sure have you question and everything you know what i didn't want to mention in that this is a little tidbit about that girl is that at one point she had like a viral reel and it was basically like her hanging out at the casino with her boyfriend while he played poker so somebody sent it to me like look what your ex is doing and i was like oh fuck she got like a new like her new boyfriend plays poker and then i realized he was playing at the one two table which you know when i when i go to the casino it's like 10 20 or like 25 50 or whatever like so basically like that that guy goes all the way to the casino to sit there and play poker with 200 bucks on the table which i play online i'll play like four tables at a time with like online is like a lot harder so like you know but like that that just like that would be like if you were like a professional baseball player and then you found out that your girl was dating a dude who was like a little league coach you know like even little league coach like it's kind of mixing up the metaphor but like that kind of like right and i'm like so not only does this guy go all the way to the casino to play poker with 200 on the table but he brings his girlfriend and she's apparently such a loser that she doesn't have anything else to do but just sort of hang out and sit there and watch 200 bucks and she never watched you play poker i i wasn't playing at the time okay okay did that make you feel a little bit better like this stupid bitch i'm so far removed from giving a fuck about her but it did stand out to me that like oh like if i was still in my feelings a little bit that would really help things a little bit yeah which i'm not like acting like i'm better because i play poker for more money right no things give you perspective like the type of dude that he is only this type of dude would do this you always want to feel like she downgraded yeah like oh yeah she fucking would have lame like oh in the poker community if you go to the casino and play one two you're basically like a beginner slash like someone who is not totally not a chud yeah you're a chud basically yeah um but okay so i uh what we were just talking about oh yeah like kind of removing some of the gangster because i feel like we the the tuesday show with two well we did have a half a before but like you know having like you know some dudes who are like kind of more on the street shit is good but as soon as you put like too many on one podcast it becomes sort of weird from their perspective i think whereas like if you have like like even munchie when he said like i'd rather probably moose and fucking doughboy i think there is something appealing of like i can be a gangster as dude and do podcasts where i don't have to fucking lean into that and focus on that the whole time but do you think that they could because i kind of was pushing that and you were kind of like not sure you know like is he gonna reach a limit to where he's not gonna give the best perspective on non-street things do you feel like munchy or spody has the ability to just hop in a regular podcast game non-street the monday show is supposed to not be about rapper street shit in my mind i'm still kind of clinging to that and i think that like monday is like the day that if we're going to do podcasts that are like comedy oriented whatever the final cast ends up being i think that's good and i think tuesday being more street rap, et cetera.

1:14:01But I mean, you can have Squares talk about street shit and rap shit too, you know? Right. And I think what I found out, and you've seen it too, Moose, I think what I found out with Munchy on the 24-hour stream, Munchy's actually really funny. And he actually, like, once you kind of get him out of that tough shell, like, he's just really - No, yeah, I think Munchy's funny. He's funny. You just think he's funny because he got drunk as fuck and his pants fell down. No, that was a funny exit. You saw a little bit of his penis. He did run, like, the first 12 hours of the stream. Yeah, but he was, like, super funny and it was just so cool street shit not talking i feel like spody would have the same you know i'm saying exposure too yeah i think they just need to show that a little bit more because sometimes like on the news munchie will shut down if it's like a too outside of his scope right topic i've seen a little bit yeah that's a problem for a lot of people really yeah yeah a lot of people so how are you feeling a week later like what do you feel like if you had to if you're you know if you're a gambling man you had to put the money on it do you think they're gonna come back spody and munchie um I don't know one out of ten how much do you do you want them to come back even have a desire for them to come back ten being the most one being I'm not gonna answer that question I'm gonna keep that information close to my chest but I will say this is that like I think like the biggest difference between right now and 2023 when a lot of people left no jumper is that at that time it felt like I didn't have anybody like that I could really lean into right whereas like but then break baby I like fucking basically like realized that the brick baby thing would work pretty quickly and that's somebody who like i maybe hadn't really like looked at serious enough because he was around but i i didn't feel like he would be like a good fit with ad and t-rel for somewhat obvious reasons but like now there's so many other people that i really wanted like try out on the tuesday show that even though it was dope before to have something that was kind of like set in stone it's like there's a lot of other people i want to try out so i'm not like really stressing it like i was at that time because it started with camcola and house phone and you, you know?

1:15:54And really, Cam Girl and House Phone. Embrace the pivot sometimes. Just embrace the pivot. I'm definitely in support of what you're saying. Like, just bringing some just more non-gangsta topics and fun just because, you know. I think there still needs to be like a gangsta day, though, eventually. We definitely got to rebuild it. It's got to be Tuesday. It's Street Dude Day. For sure. Street Dude Day. But it's like, okay, Ann Hefe, Munchie, and Spodaface was fine. You replace Ann Hefe with Jay Hood, apparently it was, that was a little bit. No, it's definitely like an equation that needs to be balanced.

1:16:21how even like that one day you weren't able to show up to the tuesday not such a good show you know it's like you and lush are just as needed on the street podcast as the street guys to kind of keep everything in order he is a street dude he is a mexican well he's like yeah the best of both worlds the ultimate duality of a man is lush uno he is he's the ultimate man well he is isn't he every ethnicity as well every ethnicity um all right so what should we dive into talk into some hobbitism topics uh i mean dough topics yeah we touched on it briefly but our boy oliver tree died in a helicopter accident he got you know pretty much went out on his kobe tip you know ad brought brick baby to no jumper this is the most extreme fake news that nobody has ever said ever anyway i interviewed fucking brick baby like way before ad was even on the plat well maybe around the same time but i knew brick baby way before that anyway sorry i just got derailed by somebody saying yeah i never heard that one before yeah that's that's a new theory uh a lot of conspiracy theories um okay so i'm gonna i'm gonna rate these topics all of a tree passed away in a helicopter accident we kind of already discussed that and i don't really have anything to add to it he has some good songs for sure he has some good songs i feel like i've heard one song ever and it was him and like i listened to a little yachty tape and he had a song with him very poppy very super poppy a little rock influence but mostly like very poppy uh popular music okay and a lot of streams who's had some topics on the bottom too so there's some on the top of someone about.

1:17:45He has some fiery ones in there too. Sometimes I might trust the Moose tabis more than yours. Wow, that's dense. Look at that. One through six is still Dope Boy and then Michelle Obama one. I think that's where mine started. Look, we're inspiring our readers to order pandas. Pandas so fire. You gotta try that barbecue brisket. I want to. I'm trying to get clean today so I'm gonna avoid it today. It's protein. Do we know, did you guys watch the UFC White House I saw a lot of clips like the highlights and then like just like I watched the entire thing and let me just tell you that like this could have gone so many different ways because we've obviously seen a decent chunk of like the UFC cards over the years be like absolute shit shows and not really like deliver you know you're always like one random eye poke away from the entire main event okay I'm getting destroyed a guy missing a weight something like that yeah all this and instead every single fight ended with a knockout, I believe.

1:18:45Or a TKO. Yeah, and then the main event itself was like one of the most brutal wars that I've seen in a long time. So given like all the things that could have gone wrong, given the fact that it was supposed to be like a 60 or 70 % chance of thunderstorms, which would have been so unbelievably destructive to the whole thing. I mean, you got to give it to him. It really worked out great. I was playing poker tournaments and I missed the moment where, what's his name? said that michelle obama was a man but josh hokit yeah i think it's like fair to say that this is like like conservatism and republicans should just like do better than this like this is disgusting behavior there are photographs of michelle obama pregnant which as well as photos of her as a little girl which you think would kind of prove to any thinking human that i saw bonnie blue drinking pregnant in the club though too you never know that was fake you know yeah you never know and And for a moment, I was like, because you've seen so many people on Twitter being like, nobody's ever seen Michelle Obama pregnant.

1:19:43I looked it up. That is not true. And it's Twitter. So it's like, that's like the right wing fucking. It was just such a random thing to just say. It's just like, you're up there and then you just take that moment to make that joke. But that fool is like all about being Mr. Offensive. Yeah. Like the white fucking America first, like UFC fighter, like archetype that started with like Colby Covington. And then even like Sean got wrapped up in that in his last fight and then apologized. was like, I got too far into that shit. Like, that's not really me. It's like, that's like the white boy thing is the, hey, I love America.

1:20:12I love Trump and I'm kind of racist. It would be sick if the Democrats win next go round and then they make MMA illegal countrywide. Oh, that would be such sweet justice. Dana White must be investigated by the FBI for the rest of his life. But to Dana's credit, he said, yo, I'm not messing with the Michelle Obama thing. Like I'm all with the shit talking, but putting out misinformation. Don't ever say a black woman. That's a woman as a man. Right. So shout out to Dana White. How'd you feel about the walkout with, uh, was it Trump and white when Trump and Dana White? How'd you feel about that? I feel like Dana should get on more testosterone than his current dose because he was looking a little like lumpy and shit.

1:20:55Like, like I like Dana when he looked like he was like carved out of steel for a while. He looked like Jeff Bezos for a quick second. Yeah. He's looking a little, uh, uncle Fester. He's trying to look like lush. True. But today that with Lush with the tank top. Oh, that was hilarious. He looked like he was ready to go. TTG. Yeah. Lush looks like a smoker, but he's our smoker. He's our smoker. Nobody could ever mess with our smoker. But yeah, the sanctity of like the White House has been gone. So like watching like fucking dirt bikers do backflips in front of it before the event started. It's like this is where our country, this kind of representation of our country.

1:21:29I like it. We're right. I like it. I feel like, you know, why does our country need to be so fucking serious all the time? Why can't we have a sporting event on the grass in front of the White House? As much as a viewer, this didn't really provide any value because once you get to the shot of the people fighting, it looks almost identical to the fight that you see taking place anywhere else. Now, you got these cool shots in between where it draws attention to the fact that this was taking place on the White House lawn, but really, ultimately, it just didn't really add a lot. Dana said I'll never do it again because it was too expensive.

1:22:04way too or this they spent seven hundred thousand dollars just to fix the grass on the white house lawn afterwards which i guess i don't know how expensive it is to do lawn care at that scale because my pea brain cannot comprehend how that could ever cause that much grand yeah and i think of all the security that you have to pay for that's extra but it just kind of has like that idiocracy kind of vibe to it like you know i'm saying soon like all the water fountains in schools are going to be like pushing gatorade out to the kids and stuff like we're heading in that direction i just feel like ufc is an american invention you know not that we you know pioneered people beating the fuck out of each other yeah if pride was going on around that time no but ufc was first for sure they pioneered it but like and then they bought pride but like which is also a very american thing to do but i just i feel like this is an american invention mma is amazing it's an incredible sport that that card in particular really like reminded me of how amazing it is as a sport in particular and as much as i may hate trump i feel like that that fucking main event and justin gape like i was probably saying around gape is like he's he came from behind he seemed like he was so done in that fight and then he came behind for the win and it was just like america is number one we are exceptional we are better than other countries we are better than these shithole countries like as much as i hate trump it really just gave me a moment of like we are the best let me try everyone else wants to be us you can all suck our dicks this is the best country we might kill you if you are different if you're trans we might never let you go to the bathroom again but we are the best but that's kind of like the representation that the fighters are giving you of the country like making you proud it's not really like oh i'm so happy that this ufc event is at the white house and trump makes us but justin gitcher was a big ass underdog no He came from behind and took the W against somebody who was undefeated.

1:24:01Want to know why? Oh, because we are number one. And you trolled that guy at the Aiden thing. Ilya Topurian. No, I trolled him. Was that him? It was another dude. I thought that was him. You made one comment to him and he kind of looked back like, you got to tell the Muslims, like, hey, I do porn. Yeah, he definitely did not seem hyped about that. Let me try to understand this a little bit, Adam, because since you watched it, was there any rhyme or reason to why this happened? Or they just was like, let's do a UFC event. at the white house or with usc 250 we're like right around the 250th anniversary of america right like did it already pass or is it i thought it passed that's what it was for okay so that's what it was for okay 250 250.

1:24:40that was like freedom 250. okay so that's what it was okay and dana white and trump are notoriously like really good friends very much dana white like people forget but like dana white was like kind of the first mainstream celebrity to really get behind trump like i remember dana white co-signing trump on a an old as joe rogan podcast and being like holy fuck i cannot believe that he's co-signing trump like this because you forget that in the early days before trump won the presidency it was just considered so toxic to say anything positive about him for for a good reason from my perspective but the fact that dana white was that like positive about trump for all these years and dana lies so bad now it says that he never really did anything to support trump like he's just like a friend of trump if you watch the footage of of dana white at the fucking republican national convention or whatever the fuck that shit is he was going so hard for trump and he tries to deny it now because he wants to seem more neutral and it's like support for trump back then it was way more reasonable than supporting him today like i respect him supporting him at the republican national convention in 2016 versus like the now guy that we got today but yeah the UFC was like the only and probably till this day the only sports league that's like welcome Trump with open arms basketball is woke NFL even to a certain extent is woke now you know they were pissed when he went to the Knicks game yeah yeah yeah but the Knicks let him in it's not like the Knicks stopped him and said hey we don't you know we don't fuck with you you know if you're the commissioner of a sport will you would you allow somebody like sean strickland to say the the racist homophobic you know misogynistic things that he says because for me i i would like to think that if i like the same way that the people on the podcast say horrible things from time to time and i don't really consider it my business to police what they say if i'm dan away i want to run an organization where you can be a fucking bigot and you're still a part of the ufc like like this is a sport it has nothing to do with like what you say and do like for sure okay Sean Strickland should not be able to call somebody the N word at a UFC press conference but if he wants to do so on social media I don't like the idea of him getting suspended.

1:26:52I couldn't disagree more because you're a representation of my brand so if you're saying things like this and I'm not checking you about it that means I'm okay with you saying that. It doesn't matter if you say it on your own personal platforms you are an extension of this brand and if you're out here saying this shit you're making the brand look bad so I wouldn't be with that shit I would find people and give them repercussions for that. Because that's my fault. Speech is important. I think that you, if you're going to be. Not when it's hate speech. But that's like the perfect heel as well. It's like a guy who's putting out hate speech and you want to see him get beat up, you know.

1:27:22So fighting, I feel like it's a little different. I feel like hate speech might be over the line, but I think we probably have different definitions of hate speech. Well, the people are saying racist things and homophobic things. Those aren't positive things. I don't think that a racist thing is hate speech. Okay. Well, maybe that's a step too far, but it's still negative towards a group of people. and if it's my organization that you're representing and you're doing shit like that, I got to check you about it or it makes it seem like I'm okay with it. Okay, if you are in the UFC and you say, I don't think gay marriage should be legal.

1:27:50I think that gay people should not be able to get married. By all means, of course you should be able to say, I don't think you have the freedom to say that in the NBA, right? No, a guy just in the NFL, I think he pretty much left the NFL because he was going on his Instagram saying like, marriage is between a man and a woman. and he was getting a little unhinged, but they pretty much cut him for that. To me, that's disgusting. Of course, as a professional athlete, you should be able to say things that, you know, I agree, hate speech. And especially if you're using the UFC as a platform to say it, but I think that if you are a person who fights in the UFC and you have, you know, let's say racist jokes, that I'm okay with.

1:28:29Now, if you say, I think we should bring back lynching. Okay, boom. Now we got an issue. I don't think the UFC should be okay with that. But if you're the kind of person like Sean Strickland who kind of like hops on social media and makes racist jokes, I think you should still be able to fight in the UFC and make racist jokes. Yeah. Yeah, it just depends. So you're now so, and I just want you to understand the extent to which this is not in any way analogous with the things that you've said in the past about how you feel about race. It seems like so obviously impossible for one person to have both of these opinions.

1:29:02No, because it's different when you say it's a business and a brand. You're just asking me how I personally feel. I don't be tripping. I don't take shit that seriously. But if I have a brand that is marketed to millions of people and people are spending money with me, no, you can't do shit like that. But that's just a business concern. Yes. If you want to profit maximize, then you should very tightly control what the people who are part of your organization say. I don't think that that should be the first concern. I think that the and probably forever, the UFC, as long as they have this sort of policy, they will miss out on sponsorships or deals with major brands.

1:29:34You know, you're just never going to see Nike in the UFC ring. They tried it with Jon Jones. They did like a little soft launch and then Jon Jones, you know, like hit a fucking two year old with his car or whatever. And then all of a sudden it went away. Well, no, I was just answering the question from a business standpoint. if you i would like to think that if i was daniel white that i would have the cojones to run a fucking organization based on what's right and not what's going to make me the most money but i think it's easier for him because the ufc's been on that since they started already the mba's got the squeaky clean you know i'm saying nobody's trying to ban basketball so it's like they kind of have that underdog like you know dark lore a little bit you know too well it noticeably like the nba is like they have a partnership with like so many different tv networks and they have partnerships with all of the biggest squeaky clean corporations and then in comparison the ufc doesn't really have a partnership with anybody besides paramount plus and i guess maybe espn to a certain extent yeah some espn yeah i don't know i just i i like the idea of a sports organization not policing the thoughts of their employees or their fighters.

1:30:43So you were cool with him calling Obama a man in the middle of the ring? Michelle Obama. I mean Michelle Obama? I think that they should tell him that they don't appreciate it, but I don't think he should be kicked out of the UFC. I don't think he should be kicked out. I wouldn't say that. That's the kind of thing that if I'm Dana White, I'm like letting him know, hey, we're not like incentivizing you to say, like that doesn't make me happy. That doesn't make me look more fondly upon you when you make that kind of joke. but I don't think they should be removed from it and I do think that probably in the NBA like that exact joke would get kicked out of the NBA just get him I mean fine him that's why I would fine him yeah I think in the NBA and like NFL a lot of times they're not gonna be like oh we're kicking you out the league for saying this it's just all the owners are gonna be like this is a brand risk for us like we don't wanna touch this guy because he might say some unhinged shit and now we're losing a bunch of stock in our fucking team interest and shit but I'm not with the extremity of kick him out he shouldn't be able to find I think that's extreme But that's what the NBA would do.

1:31:39I don't think they'd probably find him first. I don't think they'd probably just be like, get out. Well, Kyrie was not trying to mess with the VACs, and they were on his helmet pretty damn hard about that. And him speaking out against him, even as dumb as I think that is, he should have the right to have his beliefs. But yeah, they didn't kick him out the league. I think they might find him. But they suspended him, and he was on the verge. I mean, until this day, his reputation has been affected. But they suspended him for not taking part in the VACs. The measures that were at that time ruled to be like what you needed to do.

1:32:09Mandatory. Which for sure, I think if you are just like anti-backs, you should be able to say that. But I don't think that the NBA would like really have a problem with that so much as him like not complying with. It was that and he was speaking out and it was some anti-Jewish stuff he was saying around the same time. So it all kind of coincided. I think he like reposted a book that has some anti-Semitic things. It was a book and it was pretty much saying like Jews aren't the real Jews. It's like black Israelite type, you know, talking points and stuff. Yeah, kicking somebody out. But just showing like a disciplinary accent and be like, hey, we're not cool with that.

1:32:35This organization doesn't represent that. So chill out. But do you think like sports people in general should be speaking about politics? Like the Jackson Dart dude, I think he made some type of announcement at a Trump rally or some type of connection. He's the quarterback of the New York Giants. A bunch of his teammates came out immediately and were like, what the fuck is this shit? I do feel like you should be able to voice. I mean, that's like when you go back to the freedom of speech thing. If you got some political views, you should be able to say what it is you represent. If you got some religious views, that's OK.

1:33:00as long as it's not offensive to, you know what I'm saying, to people. What if one of those guys won their UFC fight and they grab that mic and they say, George Floyd died from fentanyl? And you're Dana White. What do you do? I'm finding you and you got a six-month ban. I'm just going to do like what he did with the Michelle Obama thing, say, hey, I don't agree with that. From what I've seen, that's misinformation. You got to do something, though. There has to be some level of it. What is that harming though? At a certain point, you're going to have somebody going up there doing Hitler salutes.

1:33:34Yeah. And saying, you know, Jews will not replace us in the middle of the UFC. For some reason, I think it's never going to get there for some reason. I think they have enough control to where it's like everybody for some reason is smart enough not to go and die on that hill. So let me ask you this. At the live show, we're having a good time. Lush goes up there and says, George Floyd died of Fidnell. Then does a Nazi salute right after. What are you going to do? I mean, a Jewish man saying that? But not actually Jewish considering because his mom isn't. What are you going to do? And let's just say, and it goes super viral.

1:34:06It does like, you know. Veil numbers. Veil numbers. Because then I immediately start to like think about what that does to No Jumper as a platform. Because then No Jumper like, oh, it's like the most viral moment we've had in years. And it's because Lush is basically saying like one of the most offensive things. I mean, I would probably talk to him. What if there was public outcry for you to react? This is the thing is that no jumper more so than the UFC is a place that is like known for extreme controversy and really kind of courting that sort of thing. And I don't really like like how would it affect us to be like, well, you can never come back because you said something offensive.

1:34:43Like, how does that benefit us? Yeah, I think he should maybe get suspended again. Yeah, bring him back. I mean, you suspended suspect for swinging on a guy. So you wouldn't. I think physical violence is worse than making the most obvious, like bad faith. take at all times. You just finished so step in swinging on someone. I'm just saying. Is he not the same as saying something vaguely anti-Semitic? It's not the same, but it's like you've seen something that happened in your business and you didn't agree with it, so you had to It feels like you should be able to answer this question for yourself without me having to explain to you why punching somebody in the face ten times is different than saying something anti-Semitic.

1:35:12So let's just keep it on the end. So let's just keep it if Lush said that about George Floyd and there was a public outcry for you to do something because it went super viral, does 100 million views, what are you gonna do i do feel like that take about george floyd has been mainstreamified to the extent that it's almost like not really that out of the norm like the overton window granted that is like a far right position yeah i was watching i watched some fucking debate the other day it's this thing called the enemy project i've seen that it's like they had like a white guy who's like a former cop and then they have like a black woman who's like the most blm polar opposite yeah and at one point he says like no george floyd died of fentanyl overdose you can see it in the toxicology reports and like she didn't really have like any way to do battle with that besides saying we all saw the video we all saw his knee on his neck or whatever which you know i i've looked into it myself and it seems like it's kind of like a it's a conspiracy to say that like i don't know yeah the medical examiner said that he didn't die from fentanyl in his system he died from the knee on his neck and just because you have a level of fentanyl that would kill a normal person doesn't mean that that's what killed him because like lush he could probably deal with a lot more fentanyl than i can so when you're doing these drugs you build up an immunity and a normal amount that would kill a normal person is not going to kill this gentleman and that's what they deduce from that and and i do feel like uh you know probably like both things can be true right like he was probably on like a bunch of fucking fentanyl and then also this motherfucker for sure yeah for a long ass time which probably exacerbated like him panicking because he was in that position yeah but i'm just saying like oh he overdosed oh you could see on video like that's not how like an overdose you know looks michelle obama being a man is more controversial than george floyd because it's like very easy to disprove the michelle obama thing to the point where like it's hard to take him saying it on stage as like a serious statement of fact yeah i mean look at him he has like a american flag bandana on he's got the shades on he's glazing trump from the beginning to the end it's like we knew that he's probably gonna say something like that was that guy trolling when he was doing the weigh-in drunk yeah he was trolling his whole thing is like the the absolutely crazy colby covington like archetype you know man i told you guys in the group chat but i keep watching this fucking body camera videos i was i was on that for a while i was on that for a long time the first amendment guys i was watching for a minute when they just go places and like film and like buildings they're not or they're told not so many highlights i've seen just today while i was like answering some emails i had one playing in the background at a certain point i realized is like a guy came home from work and his wife was fucking her son on the couch i see this one i see this one he called the cops which to me that's so fire why would you call the cop like what are they gonna do it's illegal incest is incest is illegal but how like by the time the cops get there aren't they not going to be having sex anymore and then how are you going to prove that they arrested them in that video i'm pretty sure like both of them went to jail i think it would never occur to me to call the cops on someone for incest the mom was like a pretty admitting you know yeah they're like that she did it they are they start questioning it to the cops and like to me this is really weird because it's like if i was gonna you know like have sex with my son or whatever like for the record they're adults like it's not like it's a kid oh they're adults yeah oh yeah it sounds way way way better yeah i mean what race were they no boy i don't what these people that would have sex right yeah yeah but i mean it just like it wouldn't occur to me that like anyone will call the cops on like like i and i believe that incest being illegal is insane but he probably was just in shock he didn't know what to do yeah i understand being mad i just don't understand calling the cops i think it's the offspring part that's what makes it illegal right the offspring so you can fuck your cousin you think uh i don't think even i think second cousin is the only one that is legal.

1:39:06I think first cousin, you're still in trouble. You could have like a little crush on if you fuck your cousin. Is it illegal to fuck your cousin? Probably state to state. In most parts. It's legal. Oh, it's legal. Fire. Your adult first cousin is legal. What's strict states? What's in the strict states? In Oklahoma and Mississippi. They're like, you guys are going too crazy out here it's banned all right but my follow-up is is it illegal is it illegal to have sex with your sister i had a adult i watched a debate of like them talking about like what if like the sister is unable to oh it is illegal wow and it's a felony wow yeah because you could you could have a baby and it's all fucked up i mean does this not seem insane to anybody else that it's the fucking government's right to like tell you you can't tell you who you can have sex with and then give you a felony and throw you in prison yeah i watched a debate about this pretty much the guy was like presenting what if the sister had like all of her ovaries removed and there's no chance the guy's sterile and there's no chance of a is that okay for the government to still come in i forget what the i feel like the kid's the thing that should be that's what yeah because you have a kid but they're saying we don't even want you risking it because you guys are already so freaked out that you're fucking your sister.

1:40:32There's no saying that you're not going to have a kid with her. The baby's going to come out all fucked up. Yeah. And then you got like the guy from 300. Instead of with the hunchback from 300. Alright. Do people ever go to federal prison for fucking their sister or brother? Yes, they can. But only under specific jurisdictional circumstances. You gotta really be laying it down. Yeah, you gotta really fuck the shit out of there. You can't just dip it in. Just the tip so I don't go to the feds. Because Because incest is primarily regulated by state law, the vast majority of people convicted of adult sibling incest started their time in state prisons.

1:41:06That's going to be an awkward conversation when you present your paperwork. Hey, what you waiting for? Hey, man, like, you know, I was just trying to find myself. I hate it too hard, buddy. We try to keep it in the family. Yeah. That's crazy that they got to be stricter in the South. That's so funny. Oh, wait, wait, wait. So if you fuck your sister on an Indian reservation or a military base, then it's a federal prison. Oh, shit. Wait, but okay. The Navajos were running it up. Let me find out. Navajos? You was being a Navajo with your brother? Let me find out. It occurs to me that writing like, fuck your sister is like way less characters than have sex with your sister.

1:41:42Yeah. The soft white underbelly family. The Whitakers. Dude, five to 15 years. No, no, no. It says ranges from zero to life in prison. Oh. What? Giving somebody a kickstand? I love that. It's literally you could either not be arrested or you're going to spend the rest of your life in there okay but in jersey you can have consensual sexual relationships as an adult with your sister and it's totally legal jared fields you got to answer for your folks go go to rhode island it's a misdemeanor but then most states it is a mid-level felony that's wild so massachusetts up to 20 years but all these other ones it's saying mostly like you know two to five just go of virginia or illinois if you want to fuck your sister so i bet that there's like conversations between people who like want to fuck their sister for sure about what state is the best to live in and why are they being how are they getting caught like just do it and don't tell anybody that's what i'm saying just just agree like hey we're not gonna tell but then you get caught it's like murderers gonna start telling but then she's in trouble too right yes that's what i want to know too so like if you do get caught for this do both parties that participate same exact or is it the man is going to get the time the sister's like he he can convince me you know i wasn't even down for real i didn't really want to do it yeah she gets two years you get 30 you busted the net damn she didn't orgasm sorry you go to jail for life no because i've seen uh uh some shit about um i think it's like washington is the best state to live in if you want to fuck horses that's a thing it's like it's somehow the law is different there and like so like handy every Everybody who wants to fuck horses like lives in Washington or something.

1:43:21Yo, my Washington homies. Hey, man, what's up with y 'all? What's up with the upstay homies? Is it true that most people want to legally F animals move to Washington? No, that is not true, Adam. Having sex with animal bestiality, by the way. It's a rumor? It is a rumor. What's the law? The law, the 1976 law. What was that up a little bit? Oh, wait. Right there. The 2005 - In 1976, Washington state lawmakers repealed its old, broad, sodomy status to decriminalize consensual oral and anal sex between human adults. However, the old statute also contains the state's ban on bestiality by repealing the entire law.

1:44:01Law managers accidentally decriminalize sex with animals. So that's not a rumor. They passed legislation so you can fuck animals. Not that I ever think about it like that, but when I do think about bestiality, it's just you don't think about an animal sitting there and letting it out. Like, if you think about somebody trying to fuck a horse, I always just think the horse would just kick him. No, but okay. And that's what happened is that a dude died and they made the movie Mr. Hands. Yeah. Which I didn't see it, but I remember one time I was playing poker on my computer and my ex-girlfriend was watching it in the other room.

1:44:31So I kind of got the gist. I was like hearing the noises and shit. And like, there's a whole movie they made about this. And I think that the horse dick, which by the way, you ever see a horse dick? It was fucking the guy. He was not fucking the horse. No, yeah, yeah. He was getting fucked by the horse. The horse was fucking him? that damages organs and cause them to die that's what these people do wow and that and the timeline really lines up here because i remember when that movie when she was watching that movie would have been like 2006 and this is when it says that the law changed was like 2006 they saw mr hands and well i mean it became a big deal because of this movie and no yeah mr hands and like two girls one cup were like coincided like it's the crazy ass internet like lower videos for sure usually it takes a couple years for the law to catch up with all the weird shit that people secretly want to do especially early internet they're like god we got to get control of this this is going viral that's what they're doing on there wow so okay i guess there's like no safe state to live in now you can't fuck your sister you can't fuck your horse what can you do in america maybe this isn't the best country in the world yeah free at all that's not free shit what's the best state oh jesus this is burning like gallons of water and trees in the forest okay there's no state where it's better 49 out of 50 states what's the one wait so rhode island they got severe penalties in rhode island so you could fuck your sister and be okay but don't fuck your dog we're gonna lock you up don't you fuck fight okay wow west west virginia of course west West Virginia has historically been the final state without a specific statute explicitly criminalizing bestiality on its books.

1:46:14However, that does not make the state a legal safe heaven because, oh, shit, the loophole is closing. Oh, no. The West Virginia legislature, they introduced and passed bills to officially amend the state code. But I guess they haven't been fully passed yet. And local law enforcement can and does protect individuals under general animal cruelty and torture laws. but yeah i guess west virginia is your best bet so you could prove that so if you could prove the animal is down then they won't lock you up but if they're like he seems a little scared we're taking you in damn so you learn something new every day because i would have been the kind of person saying that like you were allowed to fuck animals in washington which i was close to right because they yeah back in the 70s you could for sure up until 2006 2006 about 30 years of animal fucking i mean i i don't okay i i feel very differently about men choosing to get fucked by horses than i feel about fucking uh incest because incest like poses really like no well the the kid thing like yeah doing something where the offspring will be retarded and have a hard life like pretty much guaranteed that's fucked up and but the other thing too is that these dudes are getting fucked by horses like it's not like they were fucking their own horses they were sneaking onto fucking ranches and doing this horses and filming it yeah oh my god filming it It's so crazy.

1:47:30Setting up lights and shit. Okay. So this is a, I don't know if this has been discussed on here, but you see Mick Jugger Nuggets, the legendary YouTuber, basically like he vlogs his whole life and basically him and his wife announced that they had a pregnancy and then they announced that they got rid of the kid because the kid was going to have down syndrome. Myself personally, I am 100 % behind it. If I knew that my kid was going to have down syndrome, I would have absolutely aborted it. you know a kid who has down syndrome as much as you might love them if you were like forced into this situation i mean they're never going to be able to have a normal job they're never going to be able to have like a normal fucking life i feel like there's there's deformities and shit that are like way less impactful than down syndrome that i would also support aborting yeah i i agree i get it but the disgusting part is making the content out of it i think like filming myself crying with my wife as we find out our infant that's in my or the baby in my wife's stomach is like has down syndrome and we're gonna plan to kill it i know but we don't draw the line anywhere it's like did you you know when you guys conceive this baby did you film that and you know blur it out and put that out you know i just feel like this is one of those things you deserve the backlash because you thought this was going to be good content but this is like dirt bag content devastating oh yeah look of this this is actually i guess the the thumbnail yeah oh wow look look at we're having a baby okay so i don't think they are daily vloggers they're like occasional vloggers yeah so this was their big bang yeah so this this for people who forget this guy was fucking huge during the era of youtube that i kind of blew up in like 2016 2017 and then the algorithm just absolutely decimated his channel somehow and his fan base is like comparatively pretty small now like well he's still doing like 100k on a lot of these i'm sure a lot of these went up after the controversy too that is a good point so given that is actually kind of crazy how much the views have sort of fallen off because this guy used to but like he was getting a ton of views for like you remember like the angry grandpa shit yeah all that kind of stuff kind of the prank era a little bit and yeah but so they put out a video two months ago we're having a baby and then one month ago we received devastating news and And then it also says psycho update.

1:49:50Is the Down Syndrome baby the psycho update? No, like this update that we got is psycho. But this is just called We May Lose the Baby. It doesn't seem like this is the one where they actually. Do you think he took it down? I took that down. They might have been cooking him in them comments. Either way. I mean, if you're ballsy enough to put it out, you got to be ballsy enough to take the backlash. You know, yeah, you thought it was a good idea. I think they were getting harassed. They were getting death threats. Super bad. Because the anti-abortion squad is already so strong. Even the ableist protectors.

1:50:22I'm sure there's a bunch of left-wing liberals that are like, how could you? Would you abort your Down syndrome, baby? Yeah, I would. Would you? Yeah. I feel like it's the only. Or some regular ones. Of course I'm going to do the Down syndrome. Because I know myself and I know you got to be a real patient person. You know what I mean? I don't know that I have that much patience. I don't know. I just think it would be better for everyone. if you did have a down syndrome child do you think this would like offend you like what the yeah like that's fucked up i'd be pissed if i had a down syndrome child you know i love my down syndrome kid like why would you want to don't you think that down syndrome should just be eradicated because of abortion like nobody should ever have a down syndrome kid again unless they're like so anti-abortion right i think switzerland or one of those uh norwegian countries you have to get an abortion if they have i think they've eliminated down syndrome in one of those norwegian countries Sweden is like kind of working on the master race.

1:51:12So I think it might be Sweden is one of those white countries though. They made that a law. Yeah. I get it, but it's also like, you know, all this kind of like the thing of incest, like you're the government's coming in and saying, Hey, you can't have this type of baby. And if you are anti-abortion, which a huge percentage of our country is, imagine being forced to have an abortion by the fucking government. I'm super opposed to that. I was watching Dave Rubin get destroyed in that Jubilee 20 versus one. and at one point one of the dudes who's destroying him the best i realize has a baby arm you you probably know that yeah yeah i know you're talking about i don't know his name yeah he kind of has like a dj paul arm it's kind of like exactly it's different because it kind of like cuts off right here and then he has like literally like a baby hand like little tiny fingers that are almost like nubs he's definitely like not able to do shit with it uh if i were him honestly i feel like i would have probably kind of got the hand to cut off and make it just like a pure nub but either way um if you knew your kid was gonna have that is that abortion status i think i'll let him rock with the baby on the baby on because i feel like are you talking about like a scary movie when the dude had but it's like short it's like it cuts off at the elbow pretty much and then like he has a hand and like his his fingers are like little balls pretty much most of the arguments in favor of aborting the down syndrome baby kind of go out the window when you're just talking about something as minor as like having half a fucking arm well he's not gonna to play basketball like okay big deal and i feel like the technology to solve his issue is we're closer to that than solving like down syndrome and like you know having them live a normal life like him getting a robotic arm i feel like it's closer than us like curing down syndrome in whatever way you would see fit yeah i could do i could deal with a half arm we know a lot of people living with one arm true yeah they're doing just fine yeah no big deal doesn't seem that bad yeah yeah I mean, it does, you know, but one thing I was impressed by with that guy, though, is that he he wasn't making any attempt to cover it up.

1:53:08You know, like a DJ Paul. He has a towel on it for the past 30 years. Yeah, I feel like a huge. I know a very famous. Well, not like famous to our audience, but I know like a pretty well-known person in hip hop who has like a whole fake arm. Really? The whole arm's fake. I've never seen anybody talk about it on the Internet. Go tell me off camera, man. I don't know who this is. You don't know who it is. Yeah. Even when I tell people about DJ Paul, they're like, he doesn't have a little arm. I'm like, yes, he definitely does. He has like a little brace on it. He's always worn. And a lot of times he'll be, I notice he'll be holding something with the little arm.

1:53:39That's fine. Like a cup or something. Or like a bag. He'll have like a soda in a bag. If I could hold like grocery bags and bring them in my house, I'll take the little arm, you know? But just like to make it like a little less awkward. Because I know it's awkward for all of the people that we know who have like a missing arm when someone goes. And then they just are like, yeah. yeah that my homie dated a girl and she looked pretty good uh when he was in college and she had like a nubby hand pretty much and he told hit the group chat like it was like when we're all coming over to a party at his house he's like hey man when you meet her don't reach out for the hand like don't you know kind of like she's sensitive about this you know i pulled up i was a few blunts deep was drinking go straight up to her hey moose come on meet my girl bro meet my girl i'm like hey how you doing i look down i see the nub and i'm she's just like staring at me just doesn't put the other hand out nothing i'm like hey nice meet you all right i just walked off and like later he was like bro how the fuck i told you i'm like oh no i had this chick in high school and she was bad like i'm telling you like super bad and she used to always kind of walk i never noticed it until i seen it so she's always walking around like this her basically her finger was like this but then it was like super big at the top and it like curbed so she didn't tell me we go to the movies bro so she's like this so it was like it was like tissuey it was like like a big it was like big and fat right here and it curved to the right dick finger it was like crazy and so but she never told me and we went to the movies and she was about to cut out some chains and she was like yo what the fuck like yo what the fuck is that but she was so fine everywhere else but that kind of made it awkward that's crazy because it's insane that i have such a similar story but like my first girlfriend when i was like 12 or 13 allison oh the one who got away she was beautiful and i was a year younger than her which at that time matters a lot like i'm in seventh grade she's in eighth grade big ass deal oh you you're a man yeah yeah the fact that i had a hot girlfriend that was 14 when i was 13 like made me like pretty fucking cool but she had like a hand that like you know like maybe like one of the fingers was full length and like maybe this one's like you know two thirds of the length and then this one is like one knuckle and this one's one kind of like t-mobile bars yeah so i never talked to her about it never had a conversation about it she would always kind of like have it behind her bag she would always wear a long sleeve shirt and wrap the shirt around it my first ever hand job was with her the other hand okay i'm like there's No way she busted it out for that.

1:56:15We did not have sex. We were probably together. We were together for like a summer, for like three, four months. That's pretty good. Which, when you're that age, is like a long time. It's like five years. And one huge fight that we got into that actually stemmed from her injury, or I think she was just born with it like that, was that... So, Hanson, the group Hanson came out. Did they die in a plane crash? A lot of... No. Oh, not bad. I'm thinking somebody else. A lot of people pointed out at the time that they thought that it was a group of girls. And the singer in particular really looks like a girl.

1:56:50And I remember telling one of my friends, we're going to go to this Hanson concert, and we're going to get first row tickets, and I'm going to dive on stage, and I'm going to cut off the singer's hand because, oh, I forgot to include this. I thought that he kind of looked like my girlfriend. Oh, okay. And I would make jokes about like, oh, you look like the singer at Hanson. And I told my friend. They're all blonde, right? I was going to jump on stage and cut off his hand and then surgically put it onto her hand. So just because they looked like you felt like the hand would fit her hand. You know, I'm thinking I'm funny.

1:57:23I'm 13. Okay. And so I. Oh, this is a joke. It was a joke that I told my friend and then my fucking asshole friend told his girlfriend. And then that girl tells my girlfriend and she fucking broke up with me basically because of that. And that really, you know, I'm thinking like we're supposed to be bros. if I make an offensive joke to you, you're not supposed to go tell this bitch. Especially if you haven't talked to her about the hand at all. And then she's like, oh, he's been thinking about this whole time. He's joking about me. You insensitive fuck. That's like, would break her heart. And I say that to let all the people at home who think that I'm just weird now, that like, I've always been the same.

1:57:57Because doesn't that sound like something I would make a joke about now? For sure, yeah. That's just you. That's just me. Shout out to Allison. You've always been like that. I remember her last name. Oh my God, I could look her up on Facebook. I'm going to do it later. That's fire. Damn. She just has a funny hand. Does she ever touch her face with the funny hand? Like on some intimacy. Probably hit it away. But his hair behind his arm. He's got these uneven fingers. No, but I have like a memory that I like, I should just lie and act like I remember the details, but it was something where like something happened.

1:58:23Like somebody like tried to do a prank on her or something. And like, I think she like whipped like her hand at him without realizing, like, like hit him away with the retard hand. And like, and like everybody like peeped how awkward this was. I think a deformity does something for a girl that she probably would thought, you know, she was too good for you without it. But that kind of, you know, makes her a little more down to earth. I feel like. And then I had a friend who was in college with her and he said that she went over his house. Like he had a party at his house and she went to the party and she stole his shoes from the front of the house.

1:59:03Like he had his shoes just by the front of the house. Didn't think to put them away because who the fuck's going to steal some shoes? she stole his shoes where she where do you think she took him what i don't know gave it to one of her her friends out here with the fucked up hand taking shoes and in my head i thought like is she traumatized from the hand thing and that caused her to become a kleptomaniac that's okay keep her hands off nothing yeah yeah i thought she was like putting the shoes on her hands and like walking upside down or something i don't know i don't know what the fuck you're doing god damn it allison get here i always wonder if she like because i feel like i've talked about this like a couple times over the years but like not enough where i think that like people have heard it but like i wonder if she like gets word from time to time but i don't think anybody from nashville really watches my podcast you don't think anyone there has to be somebody if they do they're like their kid or something like hey you i went to high school with that guy they don't hit me up to talk about it if they do so yeah that's why i purposely didn't say oh girls damn because she was still in Sacramento she might watch this for sure yeah they're all I want to put her out there like that she was fine though she was like the first I was like in 10th grade she was thick as fuck crazy uh era in my life was when before like no gender fully took off like the very beginning I would just hang out with girls and make iPhone vlogs of me hanging out with girls and then inevitably it happened like a bunch of times I would like post my vlog of me just hanging out with this girl and she would start getting attacked by like people that were like look at this other thing you posted the other day and look at this and i like very quickly realized like i can't do this i can't just like make content out of me just hanging out with random girls it's always gonna end badly and they're making me take them down and yeah it sucked yeah that's crazy like oh you appeared in this vlog like now you condone everything that adam 22 does it was just being like that pressured but i'm like taking it down hang out with normal girls who have normal jobs whereas like now if i was doing that they would all be porn stars and random And they know what's up.

2:00:57And now we live in the Instagram age where everybody just wants clout. A lot of people would like gladly take being clown for the clout. For sure. Yeah. And that seems like that's all like the streamers are doing is just getting the big ass house and just kicking it with a bunch of chicks and getting drunk. So yeah, that's been the lane creep. So they get some allegation on them and stuff like that. And that's why I get skinny from the nind. I saw academics give that advice to like Adrian Broner, I think it was, where he was like, don't make your thing making content out of humiliating chicks oh yeah it's not gonna go bad great advice like that's just not with what Axe had to deal with he's the best one to listen to on that front for sure it's very easy to do so because there are a million retarded women out there but then it's just gonna end badly you end up being sharp pretty much like people do get over it and then you start to look like the asshole that just shits on women 24 7 yeah but and even that okay because you're like confined to a podcast space like as long as you don't hit them or throw something at them then you're good but like when you're doing like the party thing where you have like a whole house and you're streaming and there's 10 bedrooms and we don't know what's happening in the bedroom any girl could literally say that you fucking raped her and like yeah you know it's gonna go bad it's not really like that much to stop her from doing and then they're gonna bring up a thousand clips of ab like making girls uncomfortable on stream like see we've seen the signs and i was doing a podcast with somebody they're like oh yeah ab's probably our word of this many girls i'm like that's crazy to say you know what i'm saying it's like just off some clips but definitely if the allegation comes out they're gonna be like oh yeah we knew that that was bad you know we knew he was gonna do that yeah i'll give you guys like one or two more topics before i have to go be a dad or is anything that uh uh rest in peace to audence man yeah rest in peace one of my favorite defensive ends of all he was dealing with a lot of mental health things before he died like he was like sleeping under his car and shit right yeah he had such a fall from great like he when he came in the league like he was such a beast he played for the 49ers like he was like on a trajectory to be one of the goats and then i don't know what it was i don't know he grew up really fucked up right there's a bunch of things yeah because they think he od'd in the car so just a couple days before he died he was on a podcast getting his hair cut and uh he was asking him questions he was pretty much voicing like hey i'm not in a good space right now i could be in a much better space he set the record uh for the 49ers i think in that first or second season he was on their team for the sack record which still stands to this day yeah and he ended up kind of getting booted from the league because of uh having troubles and substance abuse all kinds of shit couldn't pull it together but yeah rest in peace to him but uh uh i mean do you i don't know like i know we're like evolved and we're supposed to be like sensitive men and everything but like when you find out that somebody's like going through it that hard that they've basically like either killed themselves or like put themselves in a situation where they died like i don't know is it kind of like is there a part of you that's just like how like how could you get that deep in it for me just because i never really struggle with thoughts of that type of shit even when i'm like the most down bad i still am like so i guess selfish where i'm just like i love myself too much to ever do something like that but when i see something like this it's like goddamn like the point that you have to be that even that pops and crawls into your brain you have to have some deep dark shit going on to even consider that but see but with mental illness like it's a real thing like you know i'm saying i've had some murky thoughts like you know i'm saying i've had to like you know walk myself out of situations and it's just like it could just go from everything is fine to everything is not and like you know i'm saying and i think toxic toxic masculinity prevents people from saying stuff especially with somebody like all them you know and pieces like you're this big bad football player so people feel like what are you talking about your feelings for you're this big strong guy so a lot of people feel like if they are having issues or having struggles that they can't you know talk about like black men are the number one people that unalive themselves in this country so it's just like it breaks yeah it's definitely the whites got you beat no the black man take a look trust me i know do black men commit suicide more than any other group.

2:05:03In the U.S., maybe. We won't turn this in. No, we do not. Non-Hispanic white men and non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native populations experience the highest overall suicide. However, suicide is a severe and rapidly growing crisis among young black men. Damn, black people are trying to take credit for everything. That's crazy. Yeah, the whites got the suicide on us, man. At one point, I know that it was, so I stand corrected. maybe that's changed over the years but yeah you just heard somebody say it and you assumed it was true i've heard it more than once well i mean i'm just yeah well do you want me to say was it ever true yeah okay i don't think so was it ever true i feel like the committing suicide is like a black man a little man a little bit of a privilege thing no i feel like poor people aren't committing suicide on on a regular basis that's what i'm saying i do feel like it's kind of it's kind of kind of privileged you get to like a certain point and you realize when you put first you put they have never had the highest overall suicide rate first they never have okay was it true that black men committed suicide first yeah who was the first guy to commit suicide that's what i love about the ai is that i phrased it in a weird way and the ai knew like we know what you're trying to say well yeah but okay this is this is my thing all right especially as somebody with kids yeah it's like to me if you have a job where you can just exist work your job have a girlfriend or a wife maybe have a kid you should just like you're just like in the top one percent of humans on earth you should be so thankful to even be able to live that basic ass lifestyle that to me like it's never really made sense how i could think about killing myself because even if everything was taken away and I had to work at the fucking pharmacy or the corner store or whatever it's like I feel like I would be pretty all right with that like I don't know like now granted like I guess I just don't have like the trauma like I guess if you're like you know you've been fucking molested your whole life or some shit I can that's gonna give you like a fucked up mental state more than like a lot of other people or maybe you know but like do you believe in like chemical imbalances in people's brain they say like trauma kind of like rewires your brain shit like that I think it's just like you know we can't fathom that because we don't have those same chemical imbalances yeah and when you do have like those like when you do have those murky thoughts you can just start being like man i'm just a burden to everybody i'm pissing everybody off nobody really loves me especially if you have like a like a fear of abandonment or if you don't have a strong attachment to your family you can just start to feel really alone and just start to feel like the world would be better without i mean is that a logical thought no even if it's irrational right but when you're in that state of mind that's why you got to have people around that's why like Even recently, I started taking my mental health way more seriously.

2:07:47You know what I'm saying? Because I had a friend recently that unalived himself. And it's just like, it kind of threw me for a loop. It was just like, damn, why didn't you reach out? Why didn't you talk to somebody? You know what I'm saying? But it's like when you're in those dark corners and dark pockets, it's really hard to get out. And you only got to be wrong one time with that shit. Yeah, and the substances obviously make it way worse. Because everyone I see that's depressed and ends up on some type of drugs, it's like they pretty much are guaranteed to die. It's like, just do it until you die.

2:08:11It doesn't help if you're under the influence or something. Yeah, you're not even thinking straight. Alcohol is a depressant, so then it could really kind of press the gas on something like that. That's why I even made the decision like, man, let me get back on these meds. Let me get off this alcohol just because it's a dangerous thing. You can't play with your brain like that. Yeah, a lot of my family, it runs in my family. Alcoholism, mental health issues. So that's why I don't drink and shit. My parents had to put me on fucking antidepressants in high school. Do you think you're really depressed or was it just like misconstrued feelings and shit?

2:08:39I was just acting out so bad. I was getting arrested and like fucking just doing bad stuff like all the time. Like I was getting fucking suspended from school every couple of weeks. I got arrested like a couple of times in one year and I'm like 16. So they like put me like zombie you out. Yeah. It would put me on Wellbutrin and I remember like getting off of it and sort of like realizing like, damn, I just had like a fucking however long it was like four month period where I don't remember. Just cloudy. Yeah. Like what's, what's it feel like being on it? Like, do you feel like you're off the Zan?

2:09:08do you feel like do you remember like what the effects were you high i was just kind of you're out of it but i was just like i wasn't like angry like the way i was i wasn't acting out in the same way i was just a little bit more like zombied out like that's how i can feel sometimes like something that's why like i would get off of mez outside of them making you gain weight like it would sometimes make you feel like the lights are on but nobody's home like i'm here but like you know what i'm saying like you could tell me dope boy you want a million dollars i'd be like oh that's cool that's what everyone says that i talk to you know susan just jumped off a it just kind of it just balances you a little bit too much i'm for the first time right now taking medicine for depression as well so i'm taking first for the bipolar and the depression so i feel like it's it's setting in and it's working like i didn't want to believe i was depressed i was just like no don't try to just make me shove a pill down my throat but now that i'm taking it like i feel does it inhabit your boners a little bit or no some of the meds can but i haven't had that that issue but i have heard that some of the meds they have they have some wicked nasty side effects so it's damn near like shit like you know i'm taking all these and some of them could even make you have thoughts of unaliving yourself and they'll tell you that.

2:10:12And it's like when they're giving you medicine they're throwing spaghetti against the wall they're just trying to see what sticks they don't know that's why they're always practicing. That's what they were saying about Kanye is they're like he's basically just been experimenting with a shitload of different chemicals over the last couple years and that's like when Ak did the vlog with him where he was wearing the fucking leather Klansman outfit he was like really negative and hateful in that like he was just saying like horrible things every little while and I guess like now that they're kind of looking at that that's different than where he's at now but the album they just put out kind of expresses that because that album is doesn't have any like rough edges like it's just sort of like smoothed out like it's kind of easy to understand that like Kanye and his like massively medicated state would have made that album for sure that's the thing like why I have so much empathy towards somebody because as somebody that's you know that has the same thing as him I know what it can be like just to wig out say some shit you really don't mean like that's what i was gonna say is like it's just messed up and it's just like and people the messed up part about it they're gonna hold you to that and they're not gonna give you the past they're gonna be like no you really feel like that those are your real thoughts it's like no i was just having a manic moment shut the fuck up get out of my life don't speak to me again like imagine adam like in high school off on the pills and then he comes back like to his normal self they're like bro you've been saying the hard r the whole time you're on these pills you're like ah shit fuck i don't even remember that and the one thing about the mess All the meds that you take, none of them mix well with controlled substances.

2:11:36Yeah. So that's another reason why I was just like, all right, man, you just got to stop drinking. Like, because if you're going to take the medicine seriously, you can't drink because it's damn near like it's canceling it out. Literally. You shouldn't just take the medicine. So, you know, shout out to anybody dealing with mental illness, man. Wish you the best. Shout out to all the glazers out there. I'm the glazed guy. You are. Are you planning on selling this? Yeah. If it catches on, if people want to see it. No, it's caught on, my guy. I just had to just embrace it. Like, man, why am I fighting against this so much?

2:12:03Randy's donuts is piss. You think so? Yeah, I think when I was - Shout out to my boy, The Conclusion. He designed this for me. Shout out to The Conclusion. Watching that Craig Smith one, he made a really good point that like, we've been stepping on the Doughboy bit quite a bit. And as somebody who, you know, watches a lot of comedy podcasts, that is kind of a cardinal sin to kind of - Like in terms of like, Doughboy is a character within this universe and we would kind of like cut the characters short before it could reach to the point where it was like entertaining or like the funny or like the punchline you would say as a character it's kind of we step on it be like no you're lame and stupid don't shut the hell up and then he would never like get the full act out like perfect example when i when i made the joke about sliding into jaleesa's dms you know people can come off that like that's cringe as well like why are you talking i know there was you know other you know things that kind of made it weird but the reason when i'm rolling it out because i'm thinking all Moose is going to talk in about when he slid in a famous chick's DMs or he'll say something.

2:12:59So that's how I'm thinking about it. Because that's how Craig and all those dudes would enter the combo. Because that's how you just roll the ball out and we just all kick it. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm not just saying something random just to say it. But what I can say, though, is in my experience here, it's all starting to gel a little bit more, you know, at least for me personally. Like, these conversations are better. They're not like we're not coming in here and making it a doughboy breakdown fest. It's like we're able to come in, have some good conversations. I take the criticism well.

2:13:22I don't bitch and cry about it. Like, you know what I'm saying? and try to have some insightful takes. And I just think that it's working. So I personally think it's getting better. And shout out to all the fans, because the fans was 100 % against me before, but at least now it's tipping the scale a little bit. No, definitely. I like that pod for sure. And I feel like everywhere you came before No Jumper, it was kind of like a team. Like we're all going to work together to make each other look good. You come to No Jumper, it's kind of long. I'm going to stomp your ass out. Let's fuck this dude.

2:13:46Yeah, it's like the lion's den. It's like, oh, if I fucking make Doughboy look bad, I might get a job up here. You know, it's like a very different energy. jiggle his boobs. Exactly. Let me rub his nipples. Let me suck him off. Jiggle boobs. Jiggle boobs, jiggle boobs. I hope we have Craig back for some more stuff, man. I thought I'd think he bought some cool flavor. What do you think? I like Craig a lot and I was kind of like wondering if like, you know, it's kind of weird when you have like a three person pod, the idea of like adding a fourth because then you kind of feel like any more than four becomes like kind of cluttered.

2:14:14But man, I did think he was pretty good and it was kind of making me wonder like, man, maybe he is like the piece that Monday kind of needs. And this is why I would definitely, you know, champion that because he's very unique in where he does have a street side about him. He's from a very tough spot in Pasadena. He knows the gang shit, but he's really fucking smart. He reads a lot of books. Like he's really insightful and he really is like a very cerebral person. So you get the best of both worlds because if we're talking about, OK, you got to put the tunas on one thing, you put the street people on one thing.

2:14:46He's kind of like both. The culmination. The best culmination of both of what we have, I believe. so hopefully yeah i like craig yeah i love craig but i get what you're saying as well with the people and it's like how do we bring a guest in we got like regular hosts there's so many of them but i've been listening to joe budden i took a break for quite a few years after like rory and maul left and i like their dynamic yeah yeah yeah i like it and they be having up to you know six seven people sometimes they do but i feel like um once you get to the territory of having four five six hosts you gotta like really work on that dynamic and really like have conversations about how this is supposed to go because that's like one thing that you'll notice with joe is that like he'll do like his fucking monologue like his opening rant and you could tell that like everybody's kind of been briefed on how this is supposed to go because it's like a lot of times on here you know like people just kind of slowly figure it out but like you know it's it's like you know i don't know that like we have ever really had a conversation about like okay when we intro this topic I'm going to give the initial rundown and then my opinion and then we jump to the first person who has a contrarian or a perspective on that initial take.

2:16:03I feel like the more people you add, the more you have to work on the structure of how exactly this is supposed to play out. But I do think that that's the kind of thing that NoJumper's always struggle with because of the fact that we've tried to do pre-production and all that kind of stuff and typically people don't show up. I think you could do it now for sure because you're good at kind of like pinpointing that type of stuff, you know, just to give you one glaze here. Like you can be the one that's like, I'm going to introduce this. Okay, I see you have a different opinion. You know, we're going to introduce you here and kind of, you know, I think a little produced segment, at least trying it out would be good because you could tell that it's like kind of like the Knicks, you know, they got their star players and there's a role players and like, you know, you know, E-Manny or what's bro's name that you're beefing with?

2:16:45The lights can do like, you know, they kind of like stay quiet it a lot you know and kind of pick their spots and don't over talk joe and ish and ice because they're kind of in parks they're kind of like the main starting people and then the other guys fill in the gaps so everyone has to be on the same page like you said it makes sense yeah it is kind of crazy like that podcast like they talk about it like they're overworked and when i look at it i'm like you guys just do like three podcasts a week that's it even with the patreon ones included even with the patreon i get a little lost in that like how many episodes they do extra for the patreon and stuff yeah but it seems like they're getting money so it's like fuck pay me joe but if a man you don't want to fucking show up golly have you thought about a uh no jumper patreon we have members oh we have it already i didn't know this and you guys what do you think i'm talking about when i talk about the members oh okay the members okay i got you like patreon on youtube pretty much yeah okay patreon adjacent if the if joe bonnie's podcast had started out with members they never would have done the patreon thing i think they only do the patreon thing because they have been doing it since the beginning because it's such a pain in the ass to fucking use the the functionality yeah all those guys are grandfathered in like the matt and shanes it's like they're from fucking 10 years ago they were on patreon their shit is like a dollar yeah it's a dollar but i'm just saying like though that format i feel like you start a podcast today get popping people might go on a patreon if you have patreon i don't understand what would make you not just add members as well because the members functionality of not having to leave the app at all is so convenient yeah for sure it's so much better anyway shout out to everybody i'm gonna be a dad uh we'll read some super chats matt i mean uh moves want to be some yeah yeah i'm down to read some super chats to close it out all right big dog are these motherfuckers but i mean we can read them if you're trying to cut them all right okay um moves x moves x said doughboy tell tim what you did in the bathroom.

2:18:36We'll bring Tim back for that one. Sev S4 said, Adam, this could be the next big stoner movie like Harold and Kumar or Pineapple Express. Break Aunt Jefe out of jail. Escape Guantanamo Bay. Lush and Adam go to White Castle. That's funny. That could be your next script. That could be the next one. Zone Out Zone said, how would a random nobody with a unique perspective get an interview on here after the single cult saga? I definitely think I could be a solid interview. I did stand up five times. I got laid two out of five pretty good odds uh I would say um honestly like make a fucking Instagram reel of yourself presenting yourself talking about who you are what you feel like you could bring to the table as an interview and then try to get attention on it maybe email it to like some of the people at no jumper besides me you know like send it to josh josh at no jumper.com You know, I'm not saying like I would never look at it, but it's definitely going to be like harder to get my attention than maybe some of the other people on the staff.

2:19:38So make a one minute piece of content that you think gets the point across and then try to get it into the hands of anybody who works at No Jumper so that hopefully they could see the vision. That's honestly my perspective because somebody just saying like, hey, I think I'm dope. That means nothing. Tell us what makes your perspective unique. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Mix Marshall Mike said, I'm a little behind in the live. Doughboy, I root for you actually because I usually generally root for people to win. But why are you saying things like it rumbles my tummy? Because if I eat spicy food, it rumbles in my tummy.

2:20:15My stomach hate. We've all got that. My stomach hurt. This is only a$2 donation. But Wally said, Adam, this ain't it, brother. Dough got to go. Nah. Nah. ABMRL said, I just ordered some Panda LMAO. Let's go. Damn right you did. Beijing beef. 063 Relo G said, Adam, talk about PC Baby Draco and Chunky Scud. We did talk about that a little bit, but for sure we're going to end up talking about that tomorrow. Tune in tomorrow for that one, guys. Until the Tuesday show. Skin Christ said, well, is a member. So shout out to him. And then that's it for the donors. So shout out to everybody who watched this.

2:20:53Shout out to you, man. We'll be back next Monday real, real soon. Shout out to everybody who watched this. go watch Michael Blackson interview. I can't get jiggy with this shit. Yeah, that's one thing I would recommend. Or also, what's the other one? I dropped some other shit too. Oh, the Craig Smith interview has me, Doughboy, Lush, and Craig Smith. That was a pretty good one. That was a good one. That's up on the channel as well. Shout out to everybody who watched this. We love you all. Peace. Love y 'all.