TK Kirkland on Boycotting No Jumper, if Druski is a Comedian, 4xtra, Stefon Diggs & More

38:41I saw that on the boat. Yeah. And so Chris, the stylist is a straight man according to him and doesn't drink or do any drugs. Yes. So he's got a clear focus on what's going here he claims that stefan diggs put drugs in his drink to get him fucked up pulled out his erect penis allegedly and then grabbed him and stuck his tongue into his ear and when chris protested and ended up taking off and and basically saying you know fuck you i don't anything to do with you then stefan diggs sent his homies who weren't wearing masks to sort of to break into chris's apartment in dc and basically take a ton of his shit and then beat his ass and then after that on some drill rapper shit stefan diggs was out and about in public wearing some of the items that they stole from chris's closet going to jail you know obviously as a stylist you got all these expensive items and he had like a chrome hearts like chain and and stefan diggs was wearing it like as if to taunt chris after the fact and so chris has this huge lawsuit going on and for some reason cardi b is like involved with this she's like arguing with him claiming that he's lying claiming that he's a cloud chaser all this kind of shit so it's been a pretty that's an interesting so many so many ways you can go there right yeah As a man, if somebody does that to you, to me, you don't go public.

40:21You handle it a different way. How would you handle it if your friend grabbed you and stuck his tongue? Well, if I can't beat you, I'm going to find somebody to whoop your motherfucking ass. Oh, God. I come a whole different way. Right. Especially if I don't have nothing to lose. Meaning, if I've never been on probation, I've never been in trouble, that's going to be handled a certain way. People who've been in trouble like myself, you can't do things hand on anymore because prosecutors, once they see your rap sheet, they don't really care about your situation today. So you would have done what?

40:56You would have just left? I would have left. And plotted? Plotted. Got it. I would have plotted. Never would have went on social media. Kids today want everybody to know their business. I would have never exposed myself like that because with the way young people think today, to me, I don't think they were well educated. They are run with, oh, you gay and you know what you've been doing, et cetera, et cetera. Right. So to avoid all that, you go a whole different route. the character of Taye Diggs is becoming more and more

41:39unpleased. Stefan Diggs. Football player very well at what he does. All the babies and don't get me wrong I got kids my kids are grown but I didn't have them I didn't have five six kids in the same year. And I just wish men can set more. I mean, there are great men out there, but I just wish more men can cherish themselves a lot more because everybody's just winging it. They're doing what they want to do with their life and not understanding its consequences. And I saw the video of the guys touching him with no mask. Right. I saw the chain on his jeans that is his. this is on tape there's no way you win this in court yeah no way right because videos don't lie unless you edit it it was too much you could see everything going on yeah so either tay diggs is it tay diggs no stephan stephan diggs i keep saying tay digs yeah stephan diggs pulls him to the side and pay him off right before they get to court or he has a problem And I think it's messed your reputation up for the mess with another football team.

42:56Right. Well, yeah. I mean, from my perspective, having seen all this evidence and Stephon, or excuse me, Chris was actually showing me like more evidence on his phone because he's kind of limited on like what he's going to put out there right now because of the lawsuit and everything. but he was showing me stuff that was even more shocking. And yeah, from my perspective, I mean, Stefan Diggs seems like he thinks that because he's in this extremely rich position that he can just do whatever. It doesn't seem like he's really had problems with the law or anything because anybody who had been in trouble or was even thinking about the consequence would not send their best friends, their closest associates to go do this with no masks on like it's just like unthinkable unthinkable like the worst criminals you could ever imagine i think that this would be a plan that would work what i've seen in my lifetime is when people have gotten money ego yeah ego has destroyed a lot of people a lot of people and when you get money you have to humble yourself because it can change the the way you think, the way you move, the way you treat people.

44:10And you start to treat people wrong. You start doing things. But when you're in alignment with the universe, you understand your journey with God and all that, he has a way of humbling you badly. And everybody I've seen who had ego at one time, it was all taken away and you had to rebuild it and get it back. And you appreciate it a lot more. so the people listen to us success might come your way one day be humble it only takes 10 seconds to make someone happy if you have a disagreement try to figure it out Taye Diggs situation with me again with this Taye Diggs thing and Stefan Diggs let me tell you something let me tell you something when you said Stefan Diggs I'm not gonna mess it up next time I did it again.

45:05With Stefan Diggs, this gentleman, too much bad rep on him. Teams monitor your off-court behavior, off-field behavior. They monitor you. Sometimes you don't get a big check because of your behavior because they say, why should we give that person all this money? and he wasn't this way if he was this way he was quiet when he started getting the big checks is when he changed I feel like him on a team everybody on the team is going to be wondering and whispering is he gay it's like I mean it just seems like it's kind of followed him it's just hard to tell it just doesn't really it hasn't fully been confirmed but it seems pretty funny can confirm that's so true i mean he's definitely not gay but you know bye whatever yeah yeah yeah yeah you know one of the funnier things was that chris said about his time with stefan diggs was that they would go out shopping they'd be at the designer store and stefan diggs would be buying stuff for the girls and for him right and then at a certain point he kind of notices that like his friends like stefan diggs his actual friends and like homies and relatives and shit they're just kind of standing against the wall they're not getting anything for free but he's buying him stuff and then at a certain point he starts to like think about that like oh so was that him kind of grooming me like he saw me as like a potential bitch right right right it's interesting how long were they friends a couple years i think maybe a year sometimes when you with your homie that's your homie and you got more money like yo pick out make sure you get something yeah yeah And especially because he's the stylist.

47:00Because he's a stylist. So, you know, he's helping you get clothes. Yeah, I don't look at it that bad. Yeah. What I look at bad is him with an erection putting the tongue in his ear. Like, we're going to war. Yo. So, okay, you and your homie get into a fist fight. Like, you know, he just slugs you and you talk it out afterwards. But you could get over that, right? Like, you could get over a punch. Yeah, you could get over it. Can you get over a tongue in the ear? Oh, no, I don't think so. No, that's too much. Not if your character is strong. Yeah. That's got to really make you question, what kind of person is this guy?

47:37Right, right. And you're going to remember that for the rest of your life. Yeah. Even when you go to sleep right now, you're going to think of a motherfucker putting the tongue in your ear. Yeah. That was kind of what I was thinking the whole time I was talking to Chris about Stefan Diggs, allegedly trying to do this to him, is just that I've never really had a friend who then like turned gay on me and like did something like tried to like do something with me like right that would blow my mind so much like i'm not ready like it would be so confusing i i just feel like i would it would i would be very slow to process it it would be mind-blowing i part of me wants to go crazy but like i said i try to teach constraint yeah that right there is difficult yeah that is difficult yeah tongue in your ear and the dick is out oh no no no no we's we can't hang out yeah like the car can't be close by to go to the trunk right it's one of those situations and that's how your life can that's why i move by myself because people can do things and it could trigger you and boom you got a problem.

48:53People could be gay. People could be gay. You could just be hanging out with someone and they could just go gay on you. Yeah. I live in fear of that. Yeah, good, good, good. Yeah, I live in fear of that shit too. Did you ever catch wind of what happened to, speaking of gangster shit, me and my boy 4Xtra? You familiar with 4Xtra? No, not at all. He's a big tough crip from out here from Rolling 40 Crip. Okay. And he was kind of on the podcast like repeated that's got a hell of the tattoos big dude he does have a lot of face tattoos but he's not crit mac who i feel like you might be thinking of okay okay yeah well because he got locked up correct uh one guy look like phase on love uh-huh i don't know about that definitely not that fat okay um shout out to phase on love but yeah okay so you know this it's this guy you seen him i've seen him before okay so me and him had like a pretty good friendship going there for a while we were doing interviews and stuff like that and then he ended up blowing his hand off with a firework on the 4th of july he blew off three fingers on his right hand oh man He was kind of fucked up because he was like a legendary squabbler.

50:09He supposedly beat up like 200 dudes in a row in prison or some shit like that. You know, like won 200 fights in a row. Right. And so then that somehow turned into us kind of falling out. Like our friendship. Because he hurt himself? Well, it was kind of like I did a podcast like a week after he blew the fingers off. And for the record, he still has like his hand. He just is like missing like these three fingers. So it's kind of tough. Why are you mad at him? Cause he hurt himself. Well, no, he got mad at me because I was doing a podcast with some dudes that basically they're bloods. He's a crib.

50:46Okay. And they were kind of taking some shots at him. Okay. Give them a little bit of a hard time. Right. And, uh, I guess I like wasn't, I didn't condemn it enough. Especially if that was your friend. Yeah. Yeah. He thought that, uh, I owed him a little bit more. And I think from my perspective, it was kind of like, well, these are your ops that you kind of are at war with. And when you blow your hand off, I got to give them a little bit of room to get their jokes off that they want to get off. Yeah, so you play a neutral role, but people, he became your friend. Yeah. And he took it very seriously.

51:26Yeah. You didn't see it that way. um i took it seriously but i also just i i feel like i have a little bit more of like a realistic perspective on what you could expect of a content creator like anybody who is going to be cool with me yes has to know that i might end up doing a podcast with your worst enemy okay and they might end up talking about you i respect that and yeah i'm gonna hold you down like if me and you are cool like if i do an interview tomorrow with some guy that's the most anti tk gurgle motherfucker on it right you know i'm gonna like hold you down within the the best of my ability i'm gonna try to like point out the flaws in his argument or whatever right i'm not gonna just mindlessly buy into whatever they're saying but you know i i don't have like the option of just being like oh all right i with four extra from rolling 40 crib so i'm with him and people that he gets along with and then nobody else as a podcaster in the hip-hop space that would be untenable yeah you know you limit yourself i gotta play both sides you gotta play both sides you know i agree and there's a little bit of art to it because you don't want to like come off like a total asshole and you don't want to seem like you're like hyping them up against each other right right but i also you know i i can't like take away somebody's freedom of expression just because you had a tragedy when you know for actually he's kind of tried to deny it but like you know he he's someone who went viral for allegedly like knocking a guy out and then shoving a carrot in his ass right damn which he in jail but like you know he he denies that i kind of feel like he maybe did it okay but you know but i see your point i see his point too but i see your point A podcaster, that's how you make your money.

53:14Yeah. You can't be limited. You got to make your money. It's a business. And that's something that I always wanted young men who came on any podcast to understand what comes out your mouth is very important. You influence the culture. You can get yourself locked up. Yeah. Or you can lose friends. Yeah. So be careful what you say. Be mindful of what comes out your mouth because it can go the wrong way because people can't comprehend sometimes what you're saying. They hear it differently. Yeah, me and Forrest actually squashed our beef recently. We did a podcast together. Okay, great, great, great, great.

53:57He told me that at one point, because he invited me to the studio at one point, and he told me when we did the interview that he was actually planning to kill me. Okay. so I'm pretty glad I didn't go to the studio that day that went crazy he might have just whooped my ass but I also feel like maybe it could have gone too far and he could have just murdered me yeah that's my point you never know I like this life yeah yeah I don't want to die not yet but yeah so you're not up on the Crip Mac lore either no oh okay no i stay wait for anything that got in the streets okay yeah you could talk about god you could talk about um anything positive right comedy world acting um that's that's the way i go more your lane yeah yeah yeah i mean some of these guys kind of take on their own life where they become like social media stars kind of outside of the whole gang and i and i wish them well because they get checks from that right?

55:01Yeah. I think what podcasting has done Did you create your own business to get a check, man? Yeah. The world has changed. You can really set up cameras, get a team together, and do it right and monetize content and really make a lot of money. Yeah. I mean, that's the theory. It is kind of weird when I look at hip hop, though, and it feels like there's been so many podcasts over the years. but just so few of them have really stuck yes or become like real businesses or something that even kind of they're missing something i just think that like the reality is is that the audience for some like a group of people sitting around talking about rap related topics is not the biggest audience or it's just hard to pull off there's so much competition how many hours does the average person want to spend watching hip-hop oriented roundtable content per week right i'm gonna say maybe like an hour maybe two hours on average you gotta have a variety of things yeah on your show okay you gotta have a variety because you want to reach the world yeah not just la yeah you want to you want to reach people in spain you want to reach people in russia you want to reach people in um paris france yeah that's the goal at least that's what i think well if you're talking about hip-hop it is kind of hard to hit some of those audiences since like they might listen to hip-hop but i don't think they're like watching americans break down hip-hop no no no so much not at all yeah not at all yeah that's so true yeah hip-hop podcast like hip-hop is i don't want to say niche because it obviously has like a huge footprint but you know it's kind of niche and then podcast content about hip-hop is even more niche and it does feel like i don't know i just there was a lot of optimism about the business of hip-hop podcasting at one point right and i just feel like a lot of times people are not necessarily having the conversation about how much of that has kind of vanished like going back in time i remember when revolt diddy's revolt had joe budden create an entire show on revolt called state of the culture that was basically just going to be you know a panel of joe budden and different you know remy remy ma was one of the people you know so they got like high paid talent and shit all with the idea of creating this consistent corporate funded content about people just talking about hip-hop and realistically i think it lasted like a year and then it went away and the idea of a big corporation funding something like that at this point is you know when complex funded academics and joe budden to do everyday struggle which was like the biggest show at a certain point that just feels like such a different era that i don't i don't know that I'm curious to see what's going to happen in the next two years in the podcast world.

58:18But the real soldiers will last. You guys will be around for a long time. But you got to take it seriously. One day at a time. Got to make sure you have the right equipment, the right team, right studio. Some people do podcasts. Some people try to book me sometimes. I'm like, are you monetizing? and they say no so what the fuck are you in the business for wait so you ask them for money and then they say no I'm just asking how you monetize it you know I'm like a consultant talking to people when especially when they start if you're not in this to get no money it doesn't make sense to sit down and just be talking to people I mean you do have to like upload a certain amount of content before you will allow you to monetize or get like a certain number of watch hours and subscribers or some shit like that yeah you gotta be over 8000 it's not that much you know realistically you could kind of like just do whatever you might get signed up yeah if you're gonna do this guys take it seriously yeah you know take it seriously because the money's here i mean there are it's like nowadays when somebody tells me that they're gonna start a podcast and they just tell me like yeah i'm starting a podcast and i'm just like oh yeah it's just like i'm just looking at them like like what do you think is gonna happen like like and not even on some hating that shit but just like you know do you really think that people are gonna like like who are you gonna interview that hasn't already been interviewed yep and then let's say you get other interviews well like why are people gonna watch your interviews with those people as opposed to watching vlad and me or whoever the interview them you know you're kind of late to the game like do you really think you're better on camera than everybody else who's kind of out there right now like that put in years i mean it just kind of feels like are you serious like i just i don't i don't you know i just i don't know like i don't want to be like demotivating people but i also just don't really know what the they could possibly think i agree is at the end of that rainbow you know right like like i think if you are somebody who has talent as on-camera personality do tick tocks do short form content right and then maybe at some point branch out and start doing a podcast or something like that but like realistically i would try to like be part of a bigger platform because like you need to like build your fan base up one way or another and if you're somebody who has potential even if you can hate no jumper i would say go to no jumper and do six months right if you if you can you know because you gotta do it you gotta be on the inside and know how this works you just need eyeballs on you you need eyeballs you have to you have to understand this business this is but um do you do internship not in a long time we should we have our times but you should do that especially like you get your team to go to one of the colleges in the local area and that way somebody who can work for you can get credit you don't have to pay them well so what we have done a couple times we'll do these events where we have people come and try to like basically compete to become a host on no jumper in a variety of like podcast type events and then we pick a winner did you talk to doughboy out there i think so so i said look yeah yeah yeah yeah comedian yeah yeah yeah you know him i don't know him no okay they all know the og but okay yeah they know the og dope boy yeah he's he's made a splash on here but he was the winner of the second host oh great great that we did and he but he already had some experience on like wiling out okay and doing stuff with like all deaf digital and shit like that so he was kind of he's actually like the first person that became a no jumper host that already had professional broadcasting experience to some extent.

1:02:18Because I'm thinking about the behind the scenes, too. You don't always have to be in front of the camera. Get behind the scenes, too, and learn this game. Editing and all the kind of whatever that gentleman is doing over there. You know what I mean? He's running the switcher when the camera changes. Okay. Yeah, that's phenomenal. There's so many ways that you can make money today. yeah not facts now you do um interviews every day uh nearly okay good yeah okay so this is your life pretty much yeah yeah and how many years you've been doing it now about 11 11 wow yeah so i think i was here maybe five years ago something like that like right about five because time went by fast yeah it went by super fast did you see yourself as a podcaster you think you could handle it like for the time?

1:03:10I was getting ready to do, I was going to start a podcast. What I never wanted to be involved in is depending on an artist to show up. I think that's because I know people have situations and I don't want to be dependent on you and you can't make it because I would take it kind of personal. So what I did find out that what I like is going around the world doing what I do sitting here with you because guess what? I could depend on me. You tell me to be there, I'm going to be there. so I depend on me and I show up. So what, you actually proactively go out of your way to get paid podcast appearances in a whole bunch of different cities?

1:03:47All over the world. Okay. Yeah, all over the world. So you'll reach out to them? Oh, they'll reach out to me, either way. Or I've done it before, et cetera, et cetera. And again, it's about relationships. I've been doing it so long that I have relationships. We saw each other, we knew immediately, let's put this thing back together. I haven't been on here in a while. Right. It's the same with everybody, from everybody I deal with. Drink Champs, Angelique, Breakfast Club, Vlad. Oh my God, Bag Fuel. Grove Business, my guys out in Miami. It's a beautiful thing. Let me ask you this. Where do you stand on the Nolan Wells situation?

1:04:29I think that black people, anytime around more than three white people, they should always carry a folding chair. to attack them with pro wrestling remember the thing in Alabama when they had the fight and the guy took the folding chair and was wolfing their ass I do yeah so I think all black people should carry a folding chair and you feel anything suspicious clap that motherfuckers a couple of times and let them know you're ready but the Nolan that's just my little joke on it but the Nolan Willis thing is gotten too confusing and that's the thing about social media and the news because once you put out different stories, people are going to gravitate to what they think might be true.

1:05:11Right. And the only people that really needs to know is the detectives and how to catch the person that killed them or persons. Because it's been a nonstop flood of fake news the entire time. And so frequently a picture came out of him around a pool with all of his friends. And there's this whole round of news and all these viral tweets and posts saying, like, look at how they were all together that night or whatever. And then somebody comes out and says, no, that photo is from like two weeks earlier, whatever. And it's just then you have to go through this whole process again. And it's it's something when you see something now you can react.

1:05:57But if you take the time to think, man, let me let me do my due diligence. Yeah, if you're halfway intelligent, you spend a second checking yourself, thinking, well, this is really true. You got to check yourself. On everything. This is the world we live in now, man. And people react. You have less of that when it's an official account from a name you trust. Yes. If I see a New York Times article that says that something happened, I'm going to be a lot more likely to think that it's true than if it's some random Instagram account. Because I've said a couple of things on different podcasts that I actually read somewhere.

1:06:35And I was slightly wrong. Yeah. I admit that. And some people have corrected me. But it's because I read it somewhere and I didn't do my due diligence. So I said, play it and make mistakes. So I will, as we move forward, even today, as we move forward, I'm going to always hold myself accountable to make sure I know what I'm saying before it comes out of my mouth. Hmm. Yeah, no, it's crazy, especially in this day and age where just as a public figure, you're kind of expected to have an opinion about everything in political political circles. Yeah, all this this right. All these things you never want to be right.

1:07:13You want to be right. Yeah. Some are somewhat accurate. Right. I mean, you just you know, it used to be that you could just be a comic or a podcast or I guess or whatever. And now it's kind of like, no, you need to be able to wade into all kinds of things. And especially, think about the Nolan Wells thing. In another timeline or another era, it might have been a case where we didn't even know about it until they got the autopsy. Until they got some shit that confirms it. But instead, we get to spend a couple of months with everybody panicking and freaking out about everything. Just like the young lady, the radio lady, TV radio host, whose mother disappeared.

1:07:57Oh, I've seen that, but I forgot her name. Gertrey? Something like that, yeah. Yeah. Mom disappeared. TMZ was the head people investigating the thing. Not the detectives. Yeah. They, like, live. Yeah. Saying what possibly could happen. That's what I mean. All that damage is a case. Yeah. No, definitely. I mean, I'm kind of dealing with a weird version of it right now because basically like my wife has a stalker because she's like a porn star. Right. And so the guy reported it. He basically like is being misled by somebody pretending to be her that he is sending money to. and so he was told to file divorce papers for us and forge our signatures so he's basically like he thinks that my wife like needs to be saved from me and so he's filing these divorce papers and so it was like posted on tmz and all this shit oh my god like all those same outlets posted that it wasn't true once it came out that it wasn't true but everybody remembers like every day I meet people who think that I'm divorced and I have to explain that that wasn't true.

1:09:17Because the story about it was so much more viral than the story about it not. Isn't that something? Once the bad part is out, because people gravitate towards the bad stuff, they never hear the results. Apology sometimes. Never. Because I think people have just been waiting on us to break up for all these years. They just want it so bad. It would just make them feel great. Yeah, as a result, people love like a news story that like confirms something that they already thought that they absolutely could have predicted right i agree yeah definitely so um did you uh how'd you end up feeling about the whole carmelo anthony situation now that it feels like that whole thing has kind of escaped the public eye do you feel like he got a fair deal with the 35 years or what do you think would have been fair?

1:10:09That whole situation is bad. I'll tell you why. One, I used to run track. One, why you got a knife at a track meet. That bothered me. Okay, that bothered me. Two, when you get jumped or somebody's bothering you, you deal with it, you come back and you fight like a man. Yeah. Right? You fight like a man. The third thing, when they raise the GoFundMe money. Right. And they raised like over$700 ,000,$800 ,000. And they was looking for attorneys. One attorney, I think, and no, it's true. So we was dealing with this, right? One attorney looks for$500 ,000. One attorney is$50 ,000. And they went with the cheaper attorney.

1:10:53Damn. And one thing I know, and I tell people all the time, yeah, you can find out. Okay. What I found out in life is that when your life is on the line, you spend every damn dime for your freedom. Freedom has no price. If you got the money, spend it. And I think that in some what hurt him a lot as well. Because when you have a black guy, a white guy, and they say, oh, look what happened to him. He got less time because he was white. You know what nobody ever says? his attorney attorneys make a difference and do you have a record yeah people don't know your record has a lot to do with your sentencing yeah I mean honestly when I think about that situation I kind of like recall this one night where I was out I was probably like 25 or something and I'm out in the bar and there was some dude that was wasted and he like clearly was not fucking with me and was like possibly gonna punch me or do something to me and I have a fucking knife in my pocket I can't fight but I'm kind of thinking in my head I'm like because the guy's kind of big too and I'm kind of thinking like if this guy swings on me I'm gonna fucking pull the knife out and swing it at him and I got it right in my finger ready to flick it or whatever and I just always think about in that situation and i forget what even happened that night or that maybe i think the bar let out and the cops came for something unrelated so like nothing ever went down or whatever but i think about in that situation imagine if things had came together perfectly where he had pushed me and then i swung the knife at him and instead of nicking him on the arm or tapping his fucking love handle or slicing a little tiny piece instead i just landed that perfect shot because i mean we all like dudes get stabbed in prison with big knives all the time you hear about guys getting stabbed 50 times they don't die that's true it's like this so easily 99 times out of 100 would have been a situation in which this kid just stabbed the dude and then it turned into a fight and and he didn't die and it was kind of whatever and nobody ever even heard about it because it wasn't that remarkable right and it's just like the the it's just kind of a luck thing that he just like every once in a while when someone swings a knife they're just gonna swing it a little too good and just kill the guy in one shot and that's why when i see fights on social media it's always a little extra scary when you're old enough to know what could happen bingo punch somebody the right way right in the nail see knowledge sometimes is a gift and a curse yeah When you are knowledgeable, you know if you hit somebody the wrong way, probably just an even fight, that person falls, hit their head on a curve.

1:14:08Or you did something to their brain, and that person dies. Or it was a small fight, but y 'all was fighting, and he got hit the wrong way. It's over. Your life is over. Because it was just a small thing. You could have walked away from it and live a decent life for the rest of your life. But yet you're in a jail cell with other men that smelly, horrible food, take a shower once a week, sometimes every two weeks. Underwear that other men, other prisoners have worn. I mean, like, yeah, even something as simple as just swinging on somebody. Even something as simple. It's like a high percentage of the time when you swing on somebody, it's not going to land so perfectly that you knock the guy out the first shot.

1:14:56But if it does, and if their head falls from up here to the ground with nothing to cushion that blow at all, then you are looking at a situation where it's pretty fucking likely that that guy could die. The videos they show on social media, the person always wakes up, right? He's okay. but it always happened in real life you can hit a person the wrong way or just too hard they'd die before they even hit the ground and also when you are a celebrity who either has money or is perceived to have money it really doesn't even matter if they get seriously injured or hurt or whatever because whatever you're worth they're going to probably sue you and it might cost on the cheap end it might end up costing you 10k or 15 or 20k And that's the way you hurt somebody who likes money.

1:15:46Me and you like money. To sue me for that kind of money, I'm going to be pissed. That's why I won't put myself in that situation. Nah. How do you walk away from it, though? When's the last time you were in a real competition? You got to walk away. I've been in a situation maybe 10, 13 years ago. It almost led to murder. Oh. So this was the situation where you pulled the gun out. Who was it? Faison Love stopped you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I heard about this one. Okay, yeah. You forget that you talk about these things, right? I damn sure did. You saw it in my eyes, right? You saw it. You saw it.

1:16:20So what did the guy do that made you so mad that you pulled the gun out? They jumped me. Oh, all right. Outside of comedy club? Inside the comedy club. What for? Because I was late to a show. What the fuck? Yeah, some dumb shit. Of all things. Yeah, I was late. And so these are like employees of the club or something? They was owner and some of his employees. They was flukies for this guy. And they thought they were on some next shit? Yeah, that's exactly what they thought. Were they Italian or something? No, they was black. Oh, wow. They really thought they was on some gangsta shit. Both of them dead, though.

1:16:46Wow. Yeah, both of them dead. For unrelated reasons? Yeah, unrelated. Make sure I'm saying that. Unrelated. It's in the hit. Yeah. That's good. And I just wasn't having it. See, because I was going through, that's what I'm saying, choices. I've been there that you got to make painful choices. Right. Painful.

1:17:09To live the life that you want. Sometimes you have to say, do I really want the life that I really want? Because you got to do painful things. You can't get in trouble. And thank God Faison was there because it was really about to go down. Right. And he snatched me up, took me in the car, and drove me away. We was walking up the stairs. Yeah. He would have been any later. There's no telling where my life would be right now. Do you think that you would have shot him in the head? Or did you just? Oh, I was going to blast the whole motherfucking spot up. Really? It was me and a couple guys. Wow. Yeah That's crazy But my You know I got grandkids My son Even at that time?

1:17:49No now Oh now You know And that's what I'm saying You don't think about the future right? And to be here with you Living in Paris, France That's where I live at Been there for a few years What the hell are you doing out there? I just fly motherf***er I do fly shit But isn't it kind of Alienating? Nah Nah I like it I like sitting in the corner Around the corner from my apartment Sipping on cappuccino having some pizza sometimes do you have a social circle out there no no you don't it's just really a flex to celebrate they didn't get me okay am i making sense i mean you're like anonymous out yeah you know and i feel good like i because the black people don't get to go to berlin and spain and china and stay at the ritz-carlton yeah you know we'll go to berlin stay at the ritz-carlton okay oh man yeah on a whole nother level really and they got a cigar bar in there that's phenomenal now i'm sitting there i don't know no german but you couldn't tell me a thing because i felt amazing so you got an apartment there but then you just come to america all the time yeah i come to america all the time okay yeah because this is where i work and me being a senior citizen i have to stay here you know kind of because social security and all that kind of stuff oh really yeah so you have to so you stay in france but do you pay taxes in France no I pay taxes here so I lived there but I go back and forth so I don't have a visa because if you have a visa in Paris and I think that's one of the countries you won't get your Social Security okay and I worked hard to get my Social Security definitely so that dude Doughboy they were talking to out there he recently confided to me on the podcast that he's been depressed lately because he feels like he might die alone he's 46 he's morbidly obese he looks like he's melting he he's kind of at a crossroads of like what he wants to do with his life and everything and it just occurs to me that like you're someone who seems perfectly happy to not be in a long-term relationship or to not get married and for you it doesn't seem like a a source of stress at all.

1:19:58Whereas for him, I feel like he's, he's in a bit of a crisis. People are different. You get, you know, to live the life I live, you really have to be disciplined and really strong. Yeah. Cause when I do have those moments where I think I want to have that woman laying next to me, but the myth is that everybody thinks that when they die, somebody's going to be there. That's what's so hilarious. People think that, oh, I want to die alone. You dying alone. unless you commit suicide and take somebody with you well you could die before your partner or you could die before your partner but that is kind of up to be like hoping that you die before your partner so that you have them with you exactly rather than hoping that they die before you so that you can be there for them but also at that point i mean the idea of dying alone is pretty depressing from my perspective but i don't know i mean the idea of like forcing yourself into a relationship that you don't necessarily feel happy with right now because you're gonna die in like 20 or 30 years that that just seems like weird logic to me it is weird logic you have to be trying to maximize your happiness long term but i think being with someone that you don't get along with at 46 just so that you might have someone with you in 20 years from now right oh that's sad that right there is depressing it just seems unlikely to work like i like i'm not depending on nobody like my um my funeral is already paid not my funeral my service already paid for wow yeah everything is done i'm not putting that on my children to have anything that matter of fact there is not even gonna be a funeral really it's not even a memorial service not even a get-together Nah, I just want to motherfucking leave.

1:21:44You don't want your family to have a moment together to celebrate your life? Nope. I mean, they're gonna, probably, right? Probably, but I don't know. Like, they're probably gonna, like, at least have, like, a group chat. Yeah, yeah. I think the reason why I got that way is because everybody in my family is deceased. So my dad died when I was 14, was 35. Okay. Nobody in my family lived to be 60 years old. Everybody was gone before I was 40. So you're kind of like the last of the dying breed? No, not kind of. I am. Oh, okay. Yeah. But then you got all these kids and shit, right? Yeah, I have my children.

1:22:22How many? Seven. Seven. Yeah. So that alone is. Yeah, but even when I leave, it's a wrap. And all of them not getting any money either. Where was the money going? I got a certain place I was going to send it to. Really? Yeah. But not the kids? They don't deserve it? Well, it depends. I believe in the marriage system. are any of them delivering on what they should be yeah my oldest daughter's a doctor she's a brain surgeon my um my oldest son is executive out here in Los Angeles California well it's kind of ironic because like a brain surgeon doesn't really need like a couple hundred grand right like she already got money my thing with my children is to see they're self sufficient right the girls are soft and women the young my boys are men and that's priceless in a world that we live in today right priceless right and i take pride in it means a lot to me yeah it really does yeah no definitely it's kind of weird like the fact that like my parents are gonna give me money when they die when like clearly every year it gets less valuable for me to be given money you know like i totally agree but but but then also like early in your life giving someone a bunch of money is a really bad idea so like if you gave me like 500 000 at 20 oh it would have been a disaster right if you gave it to me at 30 it would have been pretty helpful if you gave it to me now it would be helpful but not that helpful.

1:23:59You wouldn't really care. And kind of like cross that bridge at a certain point. Because once you get past a certain point, you don't feel it. Matter of fact, you want more. You just look at your account, I don't know if this is enough. But you still want more, but if something happens, you know you're okay. It's a beautiful feeling. It's a beautiful feeling. But you're not stressing giving it to your kids. I'm not stressed about none of that. You get f***ed. Nah. What happens, happens. Right. I love them all. That's how I feel right now sitting with you. Are you not particularly close to them?

1:24:39I love them. They're very close. Okay. Yeah. It's just the way I think and the way I move. Yeah. That's all. People think everything has to be about money, but not with me. I think differently. Yeah. People find that out during when they talk to me. I feel like you and I are like different types of dudes because I feel like my problem is that like I could be with like a lot of different girls. Like I love women. Yes. And I feel like you are somebody who is able to like meet a lot of women, a lot of women, and somehow you don't end up getting into relationships with them so much. I have like a real problem with that when I'm single.

1:25:19Like I just start dating everybody. You know what I think my situation was? The headaches that come with the bullshit. Yeah. I hate headaches. I hate issues. I hate problems that you cause for yourself. Yeah. And I got tired of being the fixer, the motivational speaker, therapist. Got tired. So I've always focused on me. And look at the results. I'm damn near 70. Yeah. And blessed. They call me Benjamin Button. Does anything slow down at 70, though? What's the worst parts? Well, great thing, I still get erection. I still don't need no medication. Nice. But it's mental, though. See, if you aggravate me, I can't fuck you.

1:26:08Really? Yeah. It's really... That dopamine is very serious. I got to be mentally attracted to you deep to fuck you like a porn star. that's how deep I go if the connection's not there I don't even want to be bothered with you it's weird and I like I said I used to be I like to use the word slutty or hole to make it funny but I was out there I was doing my thing yeah like an old school player yeah old school player you know and then I realized today sitting here in this chair I wasted my motherfucking time really yeah but it also gave you an amount of experience like like in terms of you making a decision about being with a woman absolutely you have almost the opposite problem that a lot of young people have which is that you have way too much information yes where it's kind of hard for any one woman to stand out you kind of know too much about what you don't like and what you're particular about you're jerry seinfeld yes where it's like every episode he's got a new beautiful woman right and he's finding something wrong with them that is like that is so true right yeah because um to be in a relationship you got to kind of be naive it helps it helps yeah yeah it does am i right or wrong yeah it does if you really were like a hardened person that like knows everything about the world yes like a like a prostitute or some shit then like you're just it's gonna be hard for you to like take the idea of a relationship serious you know those kind of girls are smart and

1:27:52peace of mind is my key to hand your peace to someone is one of the most powerful things that man can do to his life because that person holds the power to your piece for years. For years. And if you're a man who's vulnerable and really love hard and that woman cheats on you or steals from you, that's why the kids today crash out or kill the girl because they're not tough. They're too emotional. And older guys too. It happens to older guys too. Me, personally, nah. I like you. It might hurt if you did something, but it's going to hurt me the longest I could be in pain over a woman. It's probably three days.

1:28:53Three days. I feel it. Three days. If she dies, you're in love with her and she dies three days? I've never had that happen yet. Okay. That's a different ballgame right there. Yeah. Yeah, that's a different ballgame. If the mother of your kids dies, for sure you got to be f***ed up for more than three. Oh, absolutely. Two weeks for sure. Oh, no, longer than that. Wow, okay. Because my kids' moms are important to my kids because I got seven baby moms. Yeah. So each one of them are attached to their mom. And so if something happens to their mother, that's why I always try to make sure they're healthy, make sure they do them right.

1:29:33I want them to eat good because I need y 'all to be here to do the rest, even though my kids are grown. I just know that because I always get praise on how I made it to where I am with my family being gone. Because most people say I couldn't have lived if my mom, dad, and brothers died. And that's something that we need to talk to people about is parents need to teach their children how to survive when they die. It's not talked about enough. And kids lose it. They get depressed. They kill themselves sometimes. My kid is five and a half. And if I were to talk to her about the idea of me dying. Yeah.

1:30:13No, that's too young. No, that's too young. You got to wait till they're older. You know, you got to wait till they're older and explain to them this is what you need to do. When daddy leaves. Because you want to say that. But then you have to prepare yourself too. They can leave before you. And that can hurt. Yeah. that's intense that's intense right there yeah i don't wish that on no motherfucking body yeah that's hardcore to live with that definitely yeah that's ugly yeah that's ugly what's uh i just had michael blackson on recently nice guy yeah but you guys have have issues with each other no no no no it was never an issue it was never an issue there was issues at one point no no he he had we was at a show and I think something came up about how much money I made and I just said a number and they said I didn't make that kind of money.

1:31:08You said you were lying. Yeah, he said I was lying. But then they see the Bentley, they see the Aston Martin, but a lot of people don't know I moved differently. Two, I think the world that we live in today, I don't know when they started announcing people's salaries, how much a person makes. That got to be the most dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life that people go around talking about how much money they got. I'm old school. Talk about what you have.

1:31:40So it was never an issue. I just think it got into the media and it went another way. I don't know. I never paid attention to it. But me and Mike is good. Yeah, yeah. I had him on here the other day. Yeah, nice guy. Yeah, he had a little bit of a flare-up. Our interview got pushed back by like six months because he ended up having a baby with his side chick. Yes, I heard about that. And his wife was not happy about that. Yeah. So I guess he didn't want to do an interview at a certain point. And see, that's the kind of problems I don't want in life. Yeah. All that's aggravating to me. Yeah. But again, what happened there?

1:32:13He did it to himself. Yeah. He could have fucked that nut in there. Yeah. That's my point about men. You put yourself in these situations, and then you get mad at yourself. I never had a hard time pulling out. I did. For real? Yeah. I think my hip muscles was weak when I was younger. I don't know what it is. Ask me that shit now. Shit. Yeah. I could pull out. I could pull out all day. I don't understand people who can't. Yeah. It's confusing to me. Yeah. I totally agree. It's a mental thing. Yeah. When I sit back now, I deal with it, and I just want other men. See, times are much harder than when I was coming up.

1:32:52I tell men before you have sex you think you're gonna have a child with a woman just go to a couple daycares in your area to see how much that shit costs price it out exactly you won't even need a condom yeah just ask the AI how much would it cost for me to have a baby and how much would it change my life exactly have a little chat yes and watch with the numbers some people daycares more than they mortgage yeah yeah that's insane just so that you can work so that you can give like all the money that you're making to the daycare to raise your kid yes and then also the money going into your apartment or wherever you stay at so you're working all the time and all your money is going into this kid that you realistically don't even get to see that much yep it's kind of crazy bro like my mom didn't even stop like now thinking about it like i think my mom only took like a few months off for work and then put me in a daycare man think about that it's like that's crazy like just the idea of like going back nine to five after like a couple months right she had to yeah she had to but like i feel like if i was in that situation i wouldn't even have a kid that's my point but But that's a lot of people's questions.

1:34:16But that was back in the day. But see, because people have sex, not understand sex makes babies, not love. Yeah. Everybody that's walking straight, I guarantee 90%, 99 % of the people were not planned. Yeah. Everybody, you was born because your mother and father was fucking. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. But there was no plan went into it. When I see homeless people, people under the bridge and all that, I think about their parents. Yeah. Was you excellent? Was you loved? Like, how did it turn out this way for you? Yeah. Or did your parents abandon you at one point because you was just a f***ed up child?

1:34:57Yeah. So many things. And I think people should, especially men and women, look at the person. You can't tell in two or three months. That's why girls who have three babies before 40 and not with the dad, then you meet a guy who got his shit together and you want that person to love you but again go back to say when you're knowledgeable it's kind of difficult kind of difficult because to be a young lady another young lady explained to me that she wanted to get married I said ain't nobody marrying you with three kids she said TK you really me? I said listen to me men don't want that responsibility I say, now you can wait till your children are grown and out the house.

1:35:45You will have a better shot. Yeah. But also by that point, you're going to be like 50 or 60. Yes. And that's why I said invest in yourself and make sure you look good. Most women, when they get older, they let themselves go. Right. You have to invest in your health and your look so that when your kids leave, you're still somewhat attractive. Yeah. A lot of women in their 60s and 50s don't look good. No. and that's why nobody's hollering at them and they can put the makeup on the wig or whatever but you get to keep your body because men are visual I say this as somebody who is in the porn game and by the time a woman is in her early 40s it is rarefied air very few women who still realistically look good enough to be serious porn stars in their early 40s right even in the late 30s you know realistically like you know chicks kind of start aging out of looking the part you know and especially if you've had a couple kids it's tough and if you haven't taken care of yourself over these i mean really the girls are still a good at 41 or 42 or whatever are the ones who were militant about diet thank you exercise.

1:37:04Thank you. Their plastic surgery went well. And you gotta take it seriously. Yeah. You can't play with it. Because you understand, men are visual. Yeah. If you look good, somebody's gonna holler at you. Yeah. Then you gotta look good on the inside. Yeah. Then you gotta have your life kind of together. Can't be f***ed up. I met a young lady, gorgeous, in her 60s. Really? But she f***ed up financially. It was done through a divorce. She didn't prepare for the future. But I, being knowledgeable, I don't want to be part of that. I'm just being smart. You're not trying to save her? Yeah, I'm not saving no motherf***er body.

1:37:46What would be your preferred age if you were going to get into a serious relationship right now? I thought about that today. It's amazing. I would have to go young. But how young? Like 33, 34. And the reason why, no kids, they're just getting their life together and I want peace of mind. So to have peace, some of these girls that I know, no children, good job. But you want a 33, 34 who has decided not to have kids because that's usually kind of around the time where they sort of have to make the decision. You, you, you, you. I'm not trying to get married. Yeah. So if you want to have, I'll get you prepared for the motherfuckers going to get married.

1:38:26I'll get you ready for that guy. But I'm not having no more children. My will and all that shit is done. you get the vasectomy no not yet no i'm not gonna get it just pulling out i'm not even i'm not my sex life is done and if i am gonna come on make sure there's an older bitch that got a hysterectomy that's real yeah you can leave you in them all day yeah and let it drip and not have a problem see okay this is the problem with being single okay is that if you're a guy who's in the public eye and you've got your relationship under control meaning you got a long-term girlfriend or a long-term wife or whatever then you realistically are gonna have to up pretty bad to get like pr that you know if you just go to work and then you go home to your wife maybe you go out to some parties or whatever it's hard to have like a bad pr moment whereas if you're dating if you are going never mind if you're going to clubs if you're going out to parties if you're drinking and you're meeting women and flirting with different women and giving out your number and getting people's numbers and taking a girl on a couple dates and not really letting it go anywhere or whatever it's like it's a ticking time bomb in terms of this somehow coming to the surface and impacting your public image now for somebody like me or you if a girl comes out and says oh i was kind of dating tk or adam and they were like he was kind of shitty to me or whatever or he he was a dick or whatever i mean it's kind of like whatever we already don't have like the cleanest right public image but it's like just having that element of chaos in your life and knowing that at any given time a woman could say anything she wants about you and she's someone that you let in your bedroom right and there was no camera set up and she could realistically say anything from minor things to the most serious of accusations you know like just being single feels chaotic in a way that is not really attractive to me and i would if i was to become single that's like probably the biggest thing to consider example and social media came out you know how being a celebrity we take pictures of people a young lady i was dating she was a doctor gorgeous but her mind wasn't right and she said TK you got a lot of girlfriends I said what do you mean she sent me pictures of about 10-15 women she got on social media that I had no idea who it was but these women with light skin and long hair here come the psychology I said there's something wrong with you she said what do you mean I said every woman here is light skin and long hair you got something against women who are light skin and long hair was she dark skin she was dark skin short hair she knows she was gorgeous okay but she had her own hair whatever but not one picture was of a dark woman right and i said there's something wrong with your psyche because one i don't know who these women are and you picked all these women now i can't date all these 15 girls that you sent me pictures of and three i have no idea who they are It was at a show.

1:41:43I took a picture. You can see the DVDs in my hand. Those are the problems that I have dating people not understanding. Yeah. Or people who don't get it. Yeah. Some things just don't make sense. And I got to a point I just can't explain things no more. It is what it is. Whatever you feel. Yeah. You'll see when you get my age. Yeah. you ain't explain the shit no damn more yeah yeah trust me no i already before my wife i started to notice more and more that my relationships i would like meet a girl seemed like it was going okay spend some time together and i'm talking you know like hang out a couple times or whatever the sleep over a couple of times and then i was getting to the point where they would say like one thing that piss me off that i would just like not even not even like oh we're fighting about it right just kind of be like just mentally like nah okay we're done yeah yeah i'm just that's where i'm that's where i'm at but that's where i'm at okay that's where i'm at you because the craziest thing i'm like i ain't got time for this shit yeah that's exactly how i feel yeah and what's so beautiful about this.

1:43:03You can meet somebody else. Yeah. It's not like it's one person. Yeah. You could actually go out and meet another person and give that person a shot too. Right. After two days. Yeah. No, for sure. That is the good part about just living in a major city. Absolutely. There's a lot of people out there. Or just having the gift of gab and having the personality. Yeah. We are able to walk up to women. See, the young kids, they don't know how to talk. Yeah, yeah. They want TikTok to do their thing. Well, I talk too much. Yeah. Like now it's like if I'm hanging out with a girl who's like 23 and I'm being myself, which is basically just babbling at all times, talking about fucking whatever.

1:43:44I mean, part of it's because they're fucking young and nervous and like I'm famous or whatever. So they're like feel weird about me. But it's like and usually these are girls that I'm about to do porn with. but like then they just like it stands out that like they don't know how to operate around somebody who's just talking about random shit all the time because they are used to being around people that don't really talk totally agree or um don't have good subject matters yeah see people who are intelligent we know a little bit of everything you be on this podcast you are privileged to different walks of life.

1:44:19And if you say some shit that I don't know about, I'll just be like, so what's that about? Exactly. And that's weird to them. Yes, that's so true. Or, like you said, if you talk too much and it's not about nothing, oh no, I can't do that. Yeah. I can't do that. My mind won't allow it. My spirit won't allow it. Yeah. No, no way. I got a friend that you know. I'll tell you off camera who I'm talking about. He is famous and recently back on the single scene. Older guy. Meets a girl online. She's a little hottie. She's sexy. She's kind of young though. She's like in her 20s. This guy's older. And he hangs out with her, flies her out, and they get into a huge explosive fight.

1:45:17because she wants to film a TikTok, and he just says, I don't do that. I keep my dating life private. I'm not doing a TikTok with you. Right. And she gets so mad that she storms out and leaves and ruins the trip. I guess they had already had sex, but. Yeah, go. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. I've had that happen with me. You want to do a TikTok? I'm not doing no fucking TikTok. no way and kids if you take them out to eat you know what they do what they want to take pictures of everything at the restaurant and put it on social media yeah yeah yeah that's it no i'd like it for a woman to come out that shit don't it don't it doesn't matter don't phase her doesn't phase you see i feel like an old head when i take photos of it because i feel like if there's anyone younger they're gonna think that i'm being an old head being like oh i got it took a picture of my sandwich no i mean you could do that i could do i would do something like that by myself okay but not on a date yeah not on a date my wife was on my case for it the other day because i was i had the flash on in a dark restaurant taking photos of my food she was on you the the flash is what she thought was really tacky and it was video so it's not just a bright flash right a sustained light.

1:46:39Right, right. Well, that's your wife. She was embarrassed. Yeah. Okay. She was like, you're acting like a cringe old man. How old are you now? 42. Oh, you're a baby, yo. I'm getting there, though. 42. Wow. You know, stuff starts slowing down a little bit. I'm willing to be your granddad. Yeah. You could be younger, and that could be true, yeah. Yeah, I'm 66. Oh, 66. Oh, I thought you were at 70. All right. So that social security do you even notice it coming in nah you wait your whole life for it and then through the f*** here like 1400 bucks something like that

1:47:23that dude Doughboy he was using the language settling like he's real concerned that he doesn't want to settle with a woman And I told him, like, listen, I think you're great. I love you. You're my friend. But you're 46. You should not be worried about settling. You should really be trying to find, like, any woman who will take you in and deal with your bullshit. Absolutely. Settling is the last thing that needs to be on your mind. Yeah, I totally agree. Okay. I totally agree. And you want to get chosen. Yeah. And no disrespect to him. He's not like a strong, healthy, in shape woman going to chase you because you're so fine.

1:48:09He's dying. Yeah. Like, you know, it is what it is, right? So you got to do something to get the women to come to you. Yeah. There's no doubt about it. You got to be in shape. You got to look good. I love him. I think he's a nice gentleman. I saw him. Yeah. A woman ain't running up on his ass. i'm just being honest well you want to know something i'll tell you some real shit i'm listening i go to the wild and out comedy show that they did during the netflix as a joke festival right i go to the wild and out thing with uh nick cannon and everybody's out there on stage and all that stuff and so afterwards we walk out and this is like doughboys element because he was on wild out so the hardcore wild and out fans they know who doughboy is right and so a girl runs up out of her minivan shaved head and she wants a photo with doughboy and i guess he got her phone number and and hit the sheets with her like soon after so he's yeah but she had a shave head and that's what i told her is i'm like you guys have the same haircut because yeah there's no way i'm a girl that just got out of a van with a shaved head.

1:49:30Unless she got cancer. Minivan. Yeah, she might have. We don't know. Yeah, you never know. I'm not above that. I'll f*** a cancer patient. Yeah, I'll f*** the actual cripple girl once. Yeah? Yeah, seriously. I used to do a joke about that. That's the only thing that was on you. You had to hold the legs. There's a girl in a wheelchair that does porn. I haven't shot with her, but... Is she fine? She's pretty cute. Got a nice ass? How can I get in porn at my age? She's always sitting down. So if I want to do porn, you can get me in. Yeah, I could actually. At first, it would probably be more of an exhibition game, a little bit of a freak show thing.

1:50:08Like, hey, this is famous guy, TK Kirkland. He's doing porn. But who knows? Maybe you could really just be out there because like, OK, life of a porn dude. Like I know a guy who does porn and literally every day, like Monday through Friday. it and he has a wife he's got multiple kids but he's just got like a separate condo or whatever and every day two or three different women come to the condo they shoot a couple different reels they cut they shoot photos whatever they for about a half hour on camera he nuts on their face she she she leaves he takes a shower chill out for a couple hours another girl come in three times in a day he's doing this and this is like he's just a regular ass guy and you get known like the regular guy family wife the wife is not tripping about him these girls interesting i mean that's just his life and i for some reason i like i have such respect for that for a guy who can like just do that day in day out because i do it but i do it like once a week on average i could do it once a month yeah because i'm the kind of guy that once i climax all all my dna is gone i'm weak really oh man i'm done i got a couple rounds of me yeah i'm done when i was your age i was i was something else okay now everything has to be planned properly mindset got to be right and I gotta be I gotta have phenomenal lust for that woman the hell out of her I think you need to get on testosterone I think you need to get horny again no I do get horny I just control it no no no I don't want to be that way no no no you don't understand no no no no but your testosterone is high?

1:51:58yeah it's good especially for my age I've done pretty good with my health I'm excited I'm horny everyday every day just have to really stay in control you know and I know when I'm super horny when I find fat bitches really attractive like when I start looking at fat bitches when I'm going through the airport I'm like that bitch fine I say ah nah it's crazy if I don't have sex or jerk off cause okay I did a boxing match I don't know if you know about this I think I heard about that but I did a boxing match and so I didn't jerk off for I think two weeks. Oh, you was in pain. Oh, I was hurting. Oh my God.

1:52:43I was pissed. Man. Because what people don't understand, masturbation is a release of, it relaxes you. It relaxes your dopamine. It's a great feeling. Takes the edge off. Takes the edge off. And I'm a great masturbator. I didn't want to say it, but that's what keeps me in control. Yeah, keeps me balanced. Did you jerk off seven times a day? Yeah, six or seven times. That's insane. but i had to slow down because my doctors and my prostate was elevated a little bit and so i actually just recently kind of became more of a friend of this uh this gay comedian named jj lieberman okay out of chicago uh i'm not sure i forget but he plays poker so that's kind of why i started talking to him a little bit and he's gay and he's talking on his story or an instagram reel about how he loves getting prosties which i'm not really sure exactly what it is but i'm I'm guessing that it's like stimulating your prostate, like having a guy finger your butt or something maybe.

1:53:40So that's something new that I just learned. Yeah, every fucking day, man. Prostate. That's what I'm saying, knowledge. Yeah. Gay knowledge. Sometimes I wish I wasn't as smart as I was because I think people who aren't that smart are extremely fucking happy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Am I right? Oh, yeah. And that's like proven where you have people who have like really insanely high iqs and they're just tormented they're like life is very very hard for them whereas like you you just wanted me in the sweet spot because like i know people who play poker right and they're pretty good at poker and they every day they play poker and they earn a decent living and to them it's about as good as it gets right life is great i get to play this game and i guess you know make some money and life is good right and but if that same person was just a little more curious a little bit more intrigued by the world around them then life is harder because then you're kind of constantly considering like well maybe maybe i should be doing this with my life maybe i should have family maybe i should have kids like you know it's like the the more aware you are of like what's going on in the outside world the the harder it is to be content Absolutely.

1:54:56Yeah. And that's where I'm at. Yeah. Knowledge is on so many levels keeps me where I'm at because it doesn't make sense now to get to this age and get smart to go against everything life has taught you. Do you agree? Because life taught me all this. When you get 60-something, all your experience is. Yeah. You graduated. You can look back and I did this, I did that, and I learned from this and that. now everything I've learned if I go against it I lose but see then that's the weird part about getting old is that at a certain point you're kind of cornered because when you're 18 and your buddy says hey jump in the car you say all right sure or like you know hey you want to go do this all right sure you know let's let's do whatever right because I'm 18 I don't know what the I want to do you don't know what's about to happen yeah and then by the time even at 42 sometimes I look at my life and it's like when i was 16 i used to play all kinds of different video games right now i'm 42 realistically i've kind of like figured out like one or two games that i like to play and it's very hard for me to imagine like trying a different game or like you know i've seen all the different kinds of movies i kind of know what kind of movies i like it's not like yeah i'm very unlikely to just find some new genre of movie that i love that i just wasn't aware of before true and and that's kind of the weird thing about getting older is that you just when you get older everything becomes a rerun you know what's going to come out of somebody's mouth before they do you can read a situation prior to that person knowing what's going to happen i see it all and i think that's part of why people are creeped out when they see a leonardo dicaprio dating a 19 year old model yeah she don't know what's about to happen because he's lived this exact thing like thousands of times hundreds of times she's doing this for the first time she this is the first time she's been around a ball and has dude who's gonna take her to the club it's better money on her and drink with her whatever it is and he's just done this so many times that it feels kind of unfair it just feels wrong it feels like when you see like a boxer who's like having his first fight against a guy who fought 200 times right just feels wrong yeah it feels wrong yeah But people do what they do.

1:57:12That's what makes this world so interesting. And you take it one day at a time. TK, thank you for pulling up. What do you want them to do if they want to engage with you on social media or give you money and something? Follow me at TK underscore Kirkland. If you get this in time, August 6th, catch me at City Winery in Chicago. August 9th, catch me in New Jersey, my hometown, in New Rochelle at Bananas Comedy Club. and August 5th, 10th, catch me in Jackson, Mississippi with, um, Mark Curry, Tony Roberts at, um, Thalia Mara hall. It's going to be a great show. And then August 21st to the 23rd, Atlanta, Georgia Uptown comedy theater in no cross.

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