Tommy Gunz on Beef with Blanco15 & DJ Flipp, Fighting Nortenos, Upcoming Jail Time & More

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1:17I didn't have nothing, homie. Straight up. This is really the rerun right here. Now it's a blizzard. It's like a year later now. You had one rolly chain, to be fair. Yeah, but not in the interview, though. Yeah, okay. I'm still trying to get a rolly chain, man. Let's go to Slossom soon and get you a rollie shot. I don't feel like I earned it yet. We'll do a skit first. Hit it. I feel like I really earned the roll chain, but I think I'm going to get there. You're close. A couple skits. Yeah. I'll be all right. Tommy Guns, how are you feeling today, man? Pretty good. I ain't going to lie. I never drink this early.

1:47You don't? I was going to see Lush Uno. Yeah, I think you're lying about not drinking this early, first of all. So we're going to take this shot? Or am I the only one who didn't take it? You are. Oh, shit. All right. Here we go. Cheers. I'm right here with you. Wash it down with a Starbucks. There we go. We're in the zone. I was just using that to make sure that my cone is straight. Yeah, definitely. No, but okay. So when your management tapped in and said that they wanted to get you on again, they were saying that you're going to go in, that you got a little bid coming up. Yeah. No. Yeah, like a year.

2:28So him and Sporty CK. Hopefully they're sellies. So the management team is getting fucked. I'm saying. Yeah. The management team has got all their clients going away. But that's kind of like great promo from a rap perspective. Like two of the biggest joints, they're about to go in. They come home. Like this is like a great rollout. Wait. So where are you actually? What are you going in for? I don't want to say, but me and homie caught the same case, you know? So whenever you see Sporty gone, Emmy gone, there's no. I used to say they're probably going to be cellmates or something, you know? You guys caught the case together?

3:02Yeah. What? And you really think you might end up being cellmates? Like you're going to be in the same jail? I don't know. I just know we're going to do our time together, though. Wow, that's insane. Preemptively. I never said I actually thought about it. Like, hell yeah, it's probably going to ride out fast, you know? Is it? So, like, you being. Like I said, that was a good promo. Yeah, great promo. Got to use it for what it's worth, yeah. but like you like a lot of times you get busted you be down in like la county jail and shit you be down here is it like and obviously you're a homie so that's not like a problem or whatever but like how come you get in trouble so much down here fool you're supposed to be like where you stay down here don't you it's because uh now i do yeah but he's supposed to be getting money and wrapping down here true but there's a lot more to get into it because i'm younger you know when i be out and about like uh i take advantage of my face card you know i see that i could go to the club right now.

3:52I could take you to the club tonight. We'll walk there. The security see me. Tell me, who you with? Your friend? Bet. Go in there. No ID, you know. Walk in there. So I'm enjoying it. You know, I'm everywhere. Like, you never know what could happen. So when shit cracks off, I'm kicking in with Sporty one day. Whatever the fuck, you know. Anything can happen. And you're a downass homie and it is what it is. I'm in LA, so I know, like, you know, anything can happen in LA. So I'm taking it that you're really enjoying your newfound celebrity. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Because when I first came here, I guess you could say like I thought I was popping whenever just because I was doing promos and shit Any brand you name right now in LA I've been done promo for them all the biggest brands awful lot of concert I'm sorry SDL blue strip you were modeling.

4:31It's not even just promo you were like doing straight much actually Um awesome shit awesome shit. He did awesome shoot shoot a photo shoot. Yeah, I get paid for that, too Oh shit What? I get paid every time I do that They want me to wear the clothes You know They got some new clothes They're like Let's let this feel weird You know Because they know I'm viral Wait how old are you? 21 21 yeah You're still young But that's why you gotta make sure You don't get fat Yeah Because that's the whole thing That'll separate you From being able to model Is that If you put on a bunch of weight And you get in your Gordo era Then all of a sudden Those opportunities I think to be honest How people book me Is because they probably See me on the internet I go viral And I just got a hell of a tattoo I just look like Different Let him put my clothes on.

5:15No. Attract a lot of attention, you know? The girl's like, who? That's a big part of it. I don't know why, because to be honest, if you ever hear my music, I don't make no music for no high enough. Not yet? Yeah, not yet. I got some coming, though. I got some. If you do, it's by accident. No, no, hell no. I'm going to do it on purpose. Oh, but I mean, like, you know, the music is not intended for the girls, but they might end up liking it. Mm-hmm. Is there a reason why you're drinking repeatedly today? You said it's not a regular occasion. today's about to be a good day you don't even know well it is a friday you don't smoke i'll smoke i got like 10 things to do today today a rapper day i guess you could say you know when you got to do i didn't even get my hair cut i gotta get a haircut i'm about to do this that's a haircut your hair looks fine no no i'm gonna do one i'm gonna do one no i need one but i'm gonna do this i got music video after this i got a show tonight in riverside uh what else i'm gonna do i think that's probably it so your attitude is that you're trying to pack in as much as possible before you You got to go sit down.

6:12Yeah, exactly. Now, like, last time, back in the day when you were in the halls, you used to write this certain girl. No, I haven't heard. Hey, that's just true, bro. I don't talk to her no more. You're not going to be writing her this time? She had a boyfriend or something. I don't know. Bro, it's time to snatch her back, homie. You're not trying to snatch her back for the blue team? No, sorry. Oh, man. All right. Is there, like, a service that you use to find lonely women that will, like, write you letters while you're locked up and like send you some money and shit nah to be honest you know what i do i can uh damn they're gonna clip this shit you know what i do i call my manager that's the one the first number that i caught this was looking at me like don't do it do it i call my manager and then this fool logs it to my instagram because he's logged in my instagram people don't know that like sometimes you might see a little post like um play games for free get money no i'm doing promo i get paid for it yeah he'll be thinking i'm standing on them and shit posting money that's not me i thought you're that i thought you're about to say that your manager rizzes up heinous for you yeah exactly you get really famous that's called assistant yeah yeah for real bro i literally text that fool hey go on my instagram boom can you tell so-and-so that i said boom boom tell so-and-so i said boom boom over and over yeah there you go you gotta just dm them f3 it's not like too hard it's not too hard ah hell no that one's burnt hey that method is burnt that method is way burnt i'm gonna show you some new shit you want to know what i do please just to throw a heinous off you know what you do send like 100 hard eyes 100 of them Sit there and take 5 minutes out of your time And tap that shit No it don't work like that If you hold it down It won't do it So then they're gonna see That you actually took time To like tap They're gonna Basically how I think I'd be like They're gonna see their phone And be like My shit's glitching What the fuck Ain't no way They're gonna open your DM Just to see if their phone's glitching And then that's when they see I gotta even better method Better method What's up Do it 250 times Select all Copy Paste Boom Method Now, I want to say to both of y 'all.

8:07And then you copy and paste that whole thing, and then you never have to write it all out again. You're a rich and famous joint. You're a jointed up young rapper that the Hina's like. I feel like if a regular person does that, that could be considered harassment. It's just one DM. Yeah, yeah. But 100 hearts though, 100 heart eyes. But you ever go to send the DM and you send one, and then you try to send another one, and it says you can't send a second one unless they follow you back or until they see the first one? And then I'm like, the first one wasn't even what I wanted to say. I thought I had a second DM in me.

8:41And then it's a wrap. It's crazy. I've never seen that before. I would just see that it won't let you text. I think it's because they like you, Tommy. That's why they let you get away with 100 hearts. You know what I noticed, too? A lot of people go through their requests, and they act like they don't. Like a lot of famous people, they act like they don't go through their requests. You know, damn well, when you wake up in the morning, you're bored, you're going to see what random people are texting you. You may not open it, but just know if you're shooting your shot at a famous high-nive. f***ing Kylie Jenner all that shit she probably seen it and probably just like whatever scrolling past it but she probably seen it I haven't been through mine in so long because it used to be that you could sort it by followers so at least I would feel like I'm not missing out on anything that crazy but now you just have to filter by 10 ,000 plus followers so I still have to look through it for hella long and my shit be glitching like I don't know I just like kind of I'm out the loop you could also set it to only blue checks could DM you you feel me like there's there's because you got to go through there there might be money sitting in there you know exactly hey what's up how do i get a hold of you i've been trying i've been trying to get some promo from you for months yeah boom definitely but so would you say that you're are you bummed out about having to go get locked up or is it is it just part of the game for you yeah i'm definitely bummed out because no one likes to go to jail but to be honest i think i'm doing good you know like i think i got everything set up good i don't have a lot i'm not going to been there for as long as time yeah i'm gonna be there for like a year you'll be all right you feel me but you've done time in different places already like you've been you've been to l.a county already like i'm pretty sure like i'm not gonna act like i'm a big dog but i already said my name over there you've been in the towers no i wasn't in the towers yeah mcj you made a wayside nope i didn't go there i was in the um i was in the school dorm so if you if you sign up for school and say i don't have my ged let me get my ged here you'll never go to wayside that's a cheat code, bro.

10:26If you're in LA County, you don't want to go to Wayside. Be like, oh, I don't have my GED. Let me sign up for school. But you'll go to school, but it's better than going to Wayside. Was that your favorite place? The school dorm, pretty much? Yeah, it was solid right there. I haven't been nowhere else other than that. Don't go to fire camp. Nah, hell no. I'm already known. We just found out you're not allowed to do that. I didn't know that. You didn't know that either? No, some of my homies are no good, apparently. Oh, wow. I've been known that already. I didn't know so right now. I'm literally, I'm learning new Cletcher as we speak Like But yeah You like that?

10:56Hell yeah My homie got one of those Long live suede It's hard When we first got it Something I thought It was Drake right away Drake? Yeah Yeah Drake has face status Without Well he No Yeah I mean Drake probably wouldn't have A Mexican flag Speaking of that You know it's so random Every time I be going out in public I swear this shit happened to me Like three times And I be wondering Why the fuck this shit Happened to me Some kids will walk up to me And they'll be like Drake's a joint Drake's a joint Is that you? I'm like bro Like do I really look like the homie, you know? Because that's the homie, but I'm like, bro.

11:25You are like the leading Mexa blacks. I don't look like Mexa joint. Come on now. You don't look like them, but you guys are like, in their head, they're probably like the Mexican and black dudes. And then they scramble it up. And I'll be with like a high nine or something and then they'll be like, you know. That's fucked up. That's fucked up. You're salt in his riz. You know what you got to do is just be like, just pretend. Next time, just pretend you're Drex. And then like, let them tag Drex in the pic and everything. You feel me? Then you go viral. Yeah. It doesn't make you look bad in any capacity.

11:55You're not dissing the homie or anything. It just shows how dumb these people are. Last time I remember with the homie Flacco, we were in Bakersfield, and we seen some food wearing all red, and we went to the smoke shop because we were about to hit him up. Let's see where this food's from. We go in there, and there's some white boy, and this food looks at me. He's like, you look like that old rapper Tommy Gunn. That's when me and the homie looked, and we were like, nah, this food for sure don't bang anything. And then I went to buy my shit from the smoke shop. Even though I didn't want to buy nothing, we just went to see who he was.

12:21I played off by Bison and I let that fool think that it wasn't like the whole time you would say shit like I could have been like It's me bro, you know, I think he is like you because I you look like that one guy You look no, he escaped from you. He has he escaped from you He totally did he was an op and he knew like Tommy got the drop on me. This is the best thing I could say Oh, ain't you that one rep? That's what I would have done smart. No, yeah You look like him. He was like you look like that one dude, and I was like for real. That's crazy, bro That's crazy. Wait, but would you do an afro-latino?

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17:28It was just on camera. You get me? This ain't like that or it's going to be like that because we're drinking. No, it is like that. Girl men drinking and then you guys are just expressing shit like, yeah, back in my childhood, boom, boom. You forget the camera's even there. Do you feel like other black people might have looked at him like, damn, you should have said something to bro. What the hell? But him, like I said, he was drunk and he was talking to me so he probably didn't take it that way either. We were probably having a heart to heart, you know? I mean, as an interviewer, the person I'm interviewing, they could say I hate white people and it's not I don't give a fuck, okay, I'm interviewing you that's interesting, let's talk about it so as an interviewer, I feel like even if you were to say I don't like white people, from Jinx's perspective he should be a journalist or be an investigator and just sit there and talk about it but I didn't do that though I rock with Jinx he's my homeboy, that's my guy we're going to do it again, that's the homie You know, we were literally, to me, it felt like two grown men having dreams getting faded and talking about like the past, you know, talking about real shit.

18:29But he okay agreed with you. That's kind of the issue. Yeah, I'm supposed to get mad. But in reality, all I did was expose the truth behind closed doors of what happened in a black household. That's all I did. Because it's not like I'm talking shit. I grew up that way. I watched it. I'm basically just exposing. Like, that's probably why they're mad. Like, why the fuck are you telling them how we are? Basically, you know. But you were speaking on your experience. You're specific and that's not necessarily all black people's experience. People when they're struggling, it don't matter what you say, when people are struggling, you know demo, you can't bring all your friends in there and just be eating all your shit.

18:59Your mom's going to tell you, don't they have mom at home? You know, don't they got food at the house? Don't be bringing your friends over here to eat all my damn food, you know? I mean, I just feel like it's so rare for somebody to get famous and then to just continue to be the same person, you know, and just keep it so real like that. And that's the shit people appreciate is when you don't come off like a cloud chaser, but you'll say shit that people are uncomfortable with because you just genuinely don't give a fuck. Because most people get famous and really just learn to like not speak out of turn, you know?

19:30Well, I think a lot of it comes from this full being. I wouldn't be fun at all, though. But you've been famous and having to be like that. That would be no fun, you know? You are like a blue face. Not quite. Obviously, you would have to be like 50 times more ignorant and like just out of control, messy to be actually like that. But like I kind of see you in that lane where you could just be. I can start my own Blue Rose club. Whatever level of messy you want to be at, like the people are just going to love you for it. They're not going to stop being interested in you because you said something that they think is a little problematic, you know?

20:06No, but that's kind of like one of the major parts of your appeal is just like the non-filter. You're just like saying, even when you rap, you're just saying what you think. So there's like no real. I try to say shit outside the box. Like I never pointed this out in an interview, but I try to rap different. Like a lot of people say the same lyrics, like spin on the op on the block, bounce out the load, this and this and that. Me, you won't even hear me say nigga and you won't hear me say op or like cringy words. I try to switch it up and say like some fancy shit. Like I don't say all catch me with the Blakey or some shit.

20:36I'll be like blast them or something like something fly, you know? Yeah. I'm overly doing it. Like I try to write every last bar to perfection But nowadays People don't want to hear no authentic shit no more You know They don't give a fuck if you actually say Oh if y 'all catch me slipping and I'm wearing slides I'ma still get down And then you do that You know And then you get caught doing that They don't give a fuck no more You know You could be the biggest baddest motherfucker They don't care They need to hear something catchy And they only last like A minute and 45 seconds So they can replay it Nowadays back then Snoop Dogg And all those niggas used to be making Five minute songs Six minute songs And you'll replay that shit Because it was hard right Nowadays No one's gonna hear sitting for five minutes straight and listen to a song in the car they're gonna change it already you know when you listen to like an old jay-z song and he comes in for that third verse with a weird ass flow like his flow is totally different and you're just like what the f*** bro like this is audacious to think that i'm gonna stick around for this but as a rapper as a lyricist it's like perfect you know like that that's the ultimate proof that you could f***er that's beat up in a multitude of ways, you know?

21:37And not to mention there's a 45-second intro before he even starts rapping. Some guy on the phone. Yeah. A lot of people be wasting time singing or doing auto-tune. I didn't sing. Me, no auto-tune. I'm rapping about raw shit. It's pretty easy to get tired of, I guess you could say, but I stay going viral on the internet, so like you said, p***s are never going to stop watching me. I already know it. That's what I'm saying. I can post my f***ing shoot right now. Someone's going to be like, oh, look at that little dirt mark on the shoot. They're going to find something to say about me, don't matter what.

22:03I could post a million dollars on cash right now on this table. He'll be like, he don't got two million, though. I'm starting to realize that now. It's never going to stop, bro. I mean, you came in the game down to earth because you already, like, you've been very forthright about the fact that you had, like, a regular nine-to-five job. And recently. I was broke as f***. Yeah. You were actually, you were doing okay. You were doing good at your job. Yeah. That time, hell yeah. I had two jobs, that's why. Yeah, you was working hard, but it was, like, not trying to rap. You know what I mean? I only had two hours out of my day to just rest at the end of the day.

22:32That's what we don't know And then recently Like footage came out Like with like And this was from like What a year and a half ago Of like Of you and your old job How many like Yeah What job was it? Cafe Rio Oh nice Yeah he's working like A nine to five That's crazy bro Like I guarantee If I go back They'll remember me Because I remember I would tell people I rap And it'll feel so weird Like damn why did I tell them that Because I'm working here with them You know but I just wanted To share that with them But I bet you now like They won't notice how like How do I say Fools now will notice how At that time I was the f***ing What do you call it?

23:06You know when you go to Chipotle And then there's somebody telling you What do you want on your s***? Yeah Main food The main guy Not the worker on the f***ing thing The CEO of the company How you doing today? Welcome to Calfurio What can I get for you? That was me bro I was in the drive-thru for like A month straight All shy and s*** When I first got the job I didn't want to know what to see me You know? Right I pulled the bow down My face tatted You know? I was like I was embarrassed You know? Low key But then It got to the point they started seeing like damn this fool got charisma this fool could talk like what the let's throw this fool in the front and see what happens boom i stayed there for like eight months straight working in the front like i was doing i was a fool that would come in you're not allowed to get tips like you have to share with everyone and there'll be fools in there like come in like a black fool come in and cool as they'll be like you working here what the hell are you working they'll give me a tip they'll slap me a tip and then everybody be looking all jealous like what the i'm not allowed to get tips i'll put that shit in my pocket did you be told did you call it hella cool right there like there'll be white people coming in like oh like they expected to see me when they went in, you know?

23:57I was like, no one would treat me weird. And this was in Billings, Montana, full white state. White people everywhere, bro. White people everywhere, bro. And I never felt like no racist shit going on when I was out there. Yeah, right. Everyone showed me love, straight up. Yeah, right. I never felt no one treated me like nothing. My homies were white. He has good aura. I was kicking it with frat boys for like a year, bro. He's got a good vibe, you know? Then I came back to LA. Then I came back to LA, and I was back, gangster shit, back cracking. But when I was over there for a year, I was the only gang member out there.

24:24I could have went out there And been on some like Oh I'm gonna tell these niggas What to do And be the top dog here For sure Tell the audience I've been sliding on Niggas Yeah You know what I did You know what I did Out there And I was going to these parties Tommy Cartel I'm like this fool is cool as fuck I was rapping music and shit I was making some gayser music And they'd be like Damn what this fool's saying Body or what Cause when we go to the parties I'll never know Bang down or whatever I'm having fun with some white boys bro Having real fun Like cool ass They didn't think I could call one of my white homies Right now and they'll vouch for me bro You didn't You like when fools would like come into the restaurant would you code switch low-key and be like yo what's up

25:02um okay so one person that you were hanging out with when i met you was blanco 15 which i understand that that relationship has uh ceased to exist what went wrong there uh just a simple fact of me getting locked up and i just felt like fools are trying to like steal my shit you know because that's what you said swagger jacking why do you feel like you was swagger jacking you say what they want make it what they want me personally the real reason was literally that and that i texted that fool what's up with it like you can you chill the fuck out like you know like don't don't do that you know like can you stop doing that i see what you're doing what did you know what he did what do you feel like he took bro i don't want to sit here like what's up like i'm not explaining like just know when i came around yeah bro was doing his shit but in reality like shit started cracking when I came around you know and especially Pete Face because Pete Face was getting it popping like okay bro that fuck a rap you know for sure but Blanco like yeah he invited me to that studio yeah me him and Pete Face all met the same day Pete Face didn't know Blanco I didn't know Blanco Pete Face didn't you know we all three didn't know each other we all met at OTR studios one day boom boom and they're like who the fuck is this food because they didn't even really know me you know they just brought me there blanco there's this thing called uh otr tuesdays they have a meeting every tuesday and blanco just brought me there that was some real that was some g shit right and that's but that was the first thing you said you said blanco a real one that was you said blanco a real one and i'll always have love for him because when i first came to the city i know nobody and blanco brought me to otr and like but i won't forget the fact that yeah they brought me in but as soon as they see me they like me though you know yeah of course when they're like oh you can rap let me hear what you got boom first song Boom, boom, kill that shit.

26:42Let's shoot a video to that shit. Boom. I killed the verse, you know? I killed my first verse, and that's how I got my name. Like, literally, like, you know how people say, like, move to L.A., and if you want to chase your dreams, move to L.A. That's what happened for me, I swear. Like, the first day I got here to L.A., my career popped off. I didn't have to wait at all. I didn't wait two days, two weeks for Blanco to tap in. He really did tap in. I was out of state working the flipping burritos and shit, and he was all like, hey, if you ever come to L.A., let's kick it. And instead, you know what I did?

27:09I call my manager I'm like this fool Said let's kick it This fool got the connects Over there to the record label F***ing up I'ma move over there I didn't tell Blanco this But I moved to LA That day that we hung out At that studio that day I had all my bags And everything in my homie's pad I moved to LA And didn't you like They worked so good for me Like I did it perfect What did he steal What did he do That you didn't appreciate Out of nowhere Started to not say the word N***a Cause out of nowhere We'll have conversations Behind the cut Like oh I don't say that Just cause I wanna show I got talent you know You can replace it with any word All these rappers Can rap but tell them to stop saying nigga then let's see how their music sounds.

27:39He's white though. I don't know where he started to not say it. But he's white. Those songs he would say it. Okay. That was one and then doing the whole fucking little muscle flex thing like bro me and him are skinny as fuck bro. I'm the one that was bold enough. I don't give a fuck nigga. I'm right here like doing my shit and then I don't know where he starts doing this shit too and then out of nowhere I got I bought a Rolex and I got another Rolex and I put it on. No the other one was not a Rolex. It was a Citizen. I got the Rolex so I'm wearing two gold watches. Everyone make fun of me. They'll be like, that's tacky as fuck What are you doing, you know?

28:05It is Those ain't buzzed down, you know? It is tight though And I'll be like, hey, this watch I bought this shit when I was working my job It was only$300 This other one, my manager got it for my birthday It's a Rolex, so it keeps me humble Like, every time I look at this watch I'm like, damn I used to be struggling But I swear I was fresh with this watch And this new one's like, I got new shit now Have a whole background story, right? This footstar is wearing two Rolexes And going like this And doing this and that Like, you know? All while I'm locked up It's kind of fucked up That's how I seen it You guys are homies You guys are supposed to be like the Migos.