Top5 on The War in Toronto, Kendrick vs Drake, Pressa Beef & More

22:29Studio Legends. You know what I'm trying to tell them? Yo, Studio Legends. I'm trying to tell them that in the city, don't get it wrong, there's gangsters that will smile on your face, and they'll show you the most love until you screw them over. And then when they screw you over, they're going to say, why are you screwing me over? It's not hard to make money now. Ten years ago, it was hard. Now you start a business, you have a couple of supporters, a couple of names, you're out of here. Like, why do you think I hate those BFI niggas? I'll keep it a buck. I gave those niggas a million dollars.

22:56I was big from Kodak. I was beefing Lowski. Every beef they had, I was in. Then I realized, like, what the f***? When I'm beefing with somebody, they're not beefing, though. So I'm getting used. Ah, so that's why you were saying, who, you're FaceTiming Kodak yesterday or whatever? That's my dog. So that's over now? Kodak and me are blessed. We'll see each other in London this weekend. Okay. You coming? We're going to London this weekend. For wireless. Wow. You're going out there? Yeah. You're allowed to leave the country? Well, I guess we were just in Spain, so yeah. Look at my call cues. Does he look like a serious guy?

23:31They do, I guess, yeah. Call cues means he got charged for me. Oh. He got charged with me in that case. Right. That I beat. Okay. You both beat it. And he kept it 100. We have nothing to say. And there was never ever going to be anything to say. You know what I mean? We're innocent. You feel me? So do you have the swastika chain at your house? This episode is brought to you by ChatGPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons Podcast. Have you guys heard about ChatGPT work? It's the new way to use ChatGPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give ChatGPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports.

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24:56Canada is so woke. I'm surprised they don't raid the crib and take that shit. Look. This is a woke-ass place. I didn't realize this was your gay pride month. Yeah, party month. He saw a dude wearing a dog mask walking around near our hotel. Fire that. Fire for that. I'm not saying you're in favor of this. I'm just saying there's a lot of gay shit going on out here. So what are you trying to say? It's just a... I feel like Canada is kind of behind us in terms of our hatred of woke people. shit. Like, I feel like you just don't see the gay flags everywhere anymore. But out here, they're still rocking with it.

25:29I've been partying all f***ing night. I don't talk about no body boys. That's the downtown guys. What's their name? Breddies? The little Bretts and the guys that, like... Yeah. In this cipher, I definitely want to diss Justin Chadeau. But you got... Your house will get raided. For real? Leave them type of higher rank power niggas alone. Really? See, John Tory, I f***ed up. when I dissed John Tory, they came for me. They kept me for three years. Example, you feel me? Wow. And you think it was just because you dissed him? Honestly, I feel like Toronto's fake, you know what I mean? Because I talk a lot of shit, you know what I mean?

26:07I don't want to talk shit to existence. Why you guys not pull up on the niggas that talk shit? Why you guys always going for the innocence, you know what I mean? Okay. Like, you see that shooting that happened on my block the other day? Yeah, yeah. I was at Wonderland. I posted it. You know the IRL streamers? Uh-huh. I showed him where I was. Right. Sorry, bear your guess. I've had multiple people DMing me basically trying to take credit for that. And come on, come on. You think they'll be breathing if they're taking credit for that? I don't know. Come on, come on. I look at that as a cowardly act.

26:36Not like taking credit for it, but they love to rub this in your face. If I see an op and he gets, if I see an op and he's in his wheelchair, you think I'm going to walk down and kill him? Right. A man in a wheelchair that can't defend himself, can't run, can't do nothing. And am I going to go shoot a girl? Am I going to go shoot a 40-year-old guy? Am I going to go shoot a 14-year-old Asian guy? How is this gangster? If the guy that you say you're looking for is at Wonderland, on stream. Right. IRL with 100 niggas. Why are you not pulling up on me? But you want to go get somebody in a wheelchair and try to brag about it.

27:17Well, they were just shooting up the whole crap, right? That's just the one they happened to hit. Who do they hit besides the guy in the wheelchair? A 40-year-old guy, a Somalian girl, and a 14-year-old Asian kid and a couple of young kids. They have nothing to do with the streets. But is this like one of those scenarios where you are actually really close to these people, but you don't want to admit how close you were to them because you feel like it's going to look like more of a W for them? I'm not. These guys that hide their dead friends, the guy in the wheelchair was very close to me. But does that mean to go for a guy in the wheelchair?

27:45That's a cowardly act. See, if you can't find me, do whatever you want to do. You feel what I mean? But if you're what's it called, if you know where I'm at, I was 45 minutes away from my neighborhood. I was involved in traffic. So you know what I mean? And then you have Toronto police talking about my ankle monitor. Bro, the day I took my ankle monitor is the day the judge got a bell radiation where the judge told the crowd to take me off all my conditions. So obviously I waited to a stream to cut it off. But you know these police officers are trying to run with the whole narrative. You guys are doing press conferences about me cutting off Mike Monter.

28:20Now you tell me who's the guy that's serious or not. But they did the press conference basically just to say that you were not on the run and that you were okay to cut it off. I'm sure you're supposed to go and get it removed officially, right? No, no. They just let you cut it off? Yes, if your condition's off, let them cut it off. Okay. And then you have to leave it in your mailbox. But that is a good example of you being like a viral mastermind though because you knew how everybody would take it. I know how to go viral. Yeah. You're definitely talented at that. Talented at a lot of things. and how to work this.

28:52We know how to work that shit. Really? Yeah. They can tell you about us. Big five. They can tell you about us. Big five. I mean, you've definitely, you seem like you came up in recent memory. Like, nobody could tell me that you're broke. Since we've been out here, you're definitely moving around like, you know, I got it going on here. If I was broke, wouldn't I go to my friends and say, hey guys, I'm broke. Let's go work to get rich. and student legend be on me sometimes to keep going because we could turn this little, we call millions little. We could turn these little millions to rich so I could fly a girl off, get my dick sucked and we gotta start living like that, you know what I mean?

29:32Like start living, you know what I mean? You gotta fly a girl. So much guys determine their day on, oh I gotta go drill to make my ops sad. Why the f*** do you care if these guys are sad or not? Live your life. Well you could do both, right? You have one. Get head and kill. I did that. No, I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I didn't do that shit. I hate it because sitting next to you, I feel like it's going to be viewed as a cosine of the worst things that you've said or are going to say in this interview. Let's just say this. Everything I say in this interview is entertainment. Right, okay. You get me.

30:05If you know, you know. And I am largely ignorant to the details of a lot of the stuff you're talking about. Yeah. But, so who did Ack put you on stream with that one time when you guys were screaming at each other? That was pretty demonic. I think to a lot of us, that's when we really found out what you had going on. I asked this guy, yo, can I, yo, yo, student of legends, he said, who was on academic stream yelling with? Can I say that person's name? No, I don't know that person. Yeah, we don't know that guy. You know what's so crazy? When I say a name, it goes so viral. Right. And they try to run with it.

30:39And it's like these kids are nothing without me. Like you see, Sav never came up trying to diss a neighborhood Or like, yeah, everybody has apps, you know what I mean? But he didn't like aggressively try to diss somebody to try to come up, you know what I mean? Nowadays, like, you got to go diss somebody's Like, God forbid, if my grandpa dies, they're going to say they're smoking on my grandpa For sure So why the f*** am I looking at these people like serious f***s? Nah, I'll tell you, yeah Everybody they say they're smoking on If a three-year-old kid in my hood dies tomorrow, they're smoking on it.

31:13Right. I don't do that shit. I tell you why I say I smoke clutch. The guy always bother me. Me. Hassan Ali bother me. I should have done that shit. Oh, my God. This guy. Whoever did it, I raped him. I didn't even know who did it. You, like, very little shocks me. You shock me, like, over and over and over every time we hang out. Well, I guess it's really, like, the main time we've hung out has been this weekend, but it's always something with you. Why? I don't know. You just got it in you, huh? Like, suit a legend. Tell this guy about DJ Drama. Oh, my God. Yeah, so tell me all about that story.

31:48You want to know about DJ Drama? Yeah, I thought this beep was over. No, we squashed it. Okay, but you still want the world to know how it went down. My boys beat the shit out of him. He was in the ER. He doesn't even know the girl that took it to the ER set him up. What? It was just so f***ing. I was in the jail cell, like, and then he paid$100 ,000 to get his shit back. So that came to my lawyer fees, too. Uh-huh. So I raided the guys that did it. What year is this? 2022. So this is still, like, fresh off the Meek Mill shit or what? Yeah. Wait, no, because that was forever ago. That was, like, 2016.

32:212019, like, 2016. But he didn't make your amends, right? You get him. Okay, but then he came to Canada and thought it was all good? And that's how this whole situation unfolded? You know what's so crazy? I was in jail fighting a body, and I was going through hell in there. Like, bro, once you do like over two years in jail, you lose the hope of coming home. Like the day started, I'll say this and I'll tell you after. But the day I beat the body, I didn't know it was coming home. Right. I was going to court because I got transferred to this Toronto jail. And then they told me, hey, you're staying in seg.

32:55They had a camera in my cell while I was taking a piss. But look, it was against my privacy. So I used to go to court every week to try to get out of there. But these guys are on social media saying, oh, this guy's a hideout. bro, I became, after that music video they put me in the hole, I became too big but then, so my lawyer fought for me to get out this one segregation in one jail and then when I went to the East detention, I had a phone in my cell so now they shipped me the penitang, and then I was on the range of penitang and then I was just bored so I liked seeing people fight so I used to start UFC fights from Thursday to Saturday, and made these guys fight each other for the noodles, you know what I mean?

33:30You were able to just make them fight? it was a collective people you didn't get involved you can't touch me in jail really i think i fought once in jail uh-huh where a guy just suckered me on the phone and we beat the shit out of him really but long story short the day that i beat the body i went to court no they woke me up saying you're going to court and i said no i refuse because i was tired i'm not going to court because it wasn't trial or nothing i go to court i was put your bro off i tell you every night I was praying. Like, I prayed my whole bid, my whole jail time, but that last 40 days I was like praying, like even crying in my prayer.

34:06And then the last, and then one day I woke up, I refused to go to court. They're like, yo, we're calling an ICA team. It was a SWAT team. And I said, yo, I'll go. I go to court. I see the courtroom filled with 50 people. And I'm like, what the f*** is going on? I thought they were trying to indict me, trying to add more charges and frame me. They said, Hasan Ali, you're allowed to go home. I looked at it just, is this real? I walked out this whole press conference. I didn't have a teeth because my teeth got cavities and shit. Oh, so that's that epic footage of you coming out there and thanking Drake and everything.

34:37Oh, Drake helped me on that. What, with the legal fees? That guy helped me. It's not no gang share or nothing. You just seen a Toronto rapper coming up and I didn't have money like that. I'm new to this. Right. You see this, you see this pinky ring. Don't let nobody lie to you. This watch, this bracelet. It's two GGGs along with Jason Chain. I'm new to this. I didn't have this a year ago. Right. I couldn't buy this when I was rapping before I went to the draft. I feel like once you beat a body, you're on. Definitely in hip-hop. Probably the only culture in which that is kind of prized, right? Y &W Melly, it's crazy how it's prized.

35:12Right. But shout out the niggas that are beating the body and are proving their innocence. You see why didn't Melly touch his road? He's out. Dirk? Holy. He's the biggest guy if he touches his road. Yeah, yeah. No, it is crazy. But I feel like it kind of wears off relatively quickly unless the music's really popping. Did I wear off? I didn't even drop a song yet. You're definitely keeping them on the hook, but I feel like I've seen a lot of people who got locked up for insane shit, and then they get out. If they don't capitalize on it, it does kind of wear off. I told everybody I'll go viral off my lifestyle.

35:40You hear about me every day in the middle. Right. I didn't even drop a song yet. Yeah. I just chill, show you my lifestyle. They're real gangsters. You're gatekeeping the music right now? You're trying to wait for the right moment? That nigga right there is going to make me drop 20 songs in the next two months. That's why I don't believe you that we're doing a cypher together. we're gonna rap about I used to watch I used to watch Lena the plug Lena the plug

36:07um okay you have a beautiful wife thank you I appreciate that I ain't gonna lie your wife is beautiful I'm gonna FaceTime you the next time we yeah

36:22let me ask you a question sure I can't wait. Listen, out of every Toronto rapper besides Saab, because you have to be biased because this is his people too. Okay. Once you talk about top five around us, you have to be biased too. Yeah, even if my music's shit, you have to say it's good. Right. You know what I mean? That's what happens in the hood. I think your music's pretty good. I think everything I say is a lie. Yeah, for sure. Clutch got killed on the 16th floor. I think that's a lie. Is it? You just told me that earlier in this interview. Sluggy got killed on camera. Now Sluggy, that's a presser name that he was always...

36:57Nah, nigga, he's claiming other shit, nigga. Oh, yeah. Sluggy, my dead app. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. He had one ball that I remember. Marky died in a trap. That's a cap. Really? Yeah. All right. I don't know. This is like, you got so much shit going on. Like, if you're an L.A. rapper, I'll probably know everybody you're talking about, but instead it's Toronto stuff, so it's like, I don't fluently speak this language. I'm going to give my credits. My favorite rapper is EBK Jabil. The best. Before him, there was Draco. I feel like Draco, they're all stealing. Like, not stealing. He's obviously hard.

37:29I feel like the West Coast needs to pay more respect to Draco. Like, Draco should be loved in the West Coast how they love Drew Shroff. Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't like how people try to downplay. Like, when he was on the road, he was a guy. Yo, Studio Legends. That guy who used to go to the club with a pocket rocket and just walk in. I used to look at him like, I can't do this in my city. Go in a club with one gun by myself. After all, young boys, the band, you know what I mean? This guy's going in dolo. To a lot of us, he's like obviously the biggest legend of the last 10 years in LA history.

38:00But I do feel like since Draco, there hasn't been anybody that has music or charisma like J-Bo. He's the next. J-Bo's a wild nigga. Chia. He's a high fucker. You spoke to him? We're supposed to do a song before he went to jail. See? We're talking in the DM. If I just sort of sent him to open, it would have been done. But I'm a lazy f***er. Like, even tonight, I might lay down six bars and say, Adam, give Lena the plug the car. Lena the plug the car. Have her do the rest of the bars. I'm talking. I'm talking. I'm talking. I'm talking. I'm talking. I'm talking. I'm talking. But I tell you about that shit.

38:31So it's like, we came from nothing. You feel me? So it's like, let me tell you about K-Money too. He was hitting me up today. He's trying to get me to pull up to his neighborhood. Who? K-Money. Trying to make you pull up? Yeah, yeah. I told him, I'm like, I'm really just trying to do this top five thing while I'm out here. I don't think that's a good idea. That guy's a rat. Really? Paperwork. He said he wants to be able to tell his side of this whole thing. Bro, he went and told them people and thought the paperwork was never coming out. Adam, I don't ever call a nigga a rat unless I see things behind you.

39:04You feel me? And then look how he took his chain. It's K Money. Did Top 5 tell you about his homie dying after his last IRL? Come to PO. Let me talk my shit. I deserve to defend my name. Let me tell you that right now. I feel like this is the opposite of what he was going for with that text. Let me tell you something right now. He's a rat, first off. He's a rat. I didn't want to feed into him. That's the same guy that, remember, he ratted in jail. So ask me this question. Hold on, bro. Okay, sorry. If I took your chain and I'm on IRL, why are you not coming to Jungle? No, coming to Wonderland.

39:41No, they're trying to be, you know. And that kid hasn't shot a soul in his life. Okay. He's a zanny popper. Really? Pill popper. Mm, many such cases. His dad's gay. Ah, come on. His dad's downtown Pride Week. Mm. His brother does Molly Zanz in the morning. I can't beat for these guys. What the f***? He wants you to go to his hood so he can tell on you. Oh. So you can tell him info. Does top five have a gun? Does top five shoot people? Right. So he can go and tell the cops. He's a cop, brother. Oh, I don't know. What you need to do is say, yeah, what's daddy? Oh. See, that's how I'm going to end up in the indictment.

40:18Okay, so when your brother died, how much did that change you? Let's talk about that. This feels like that's like the villain origin story for you. Nah, I was an innocent guy. Right. But I feel like it changed you a lot. You were never the same after that? Never, never the same. I think I got crazy when I was 10 years old. I don't think it was because of my brother died. So you're saying even before that, you had this wild streak in you? Well, I'll wait a lot. You turned me up a lot still. Right. Losing somebody that wasn't in the streets. It's not like, I was in the street and the guy used to take my shirt off and dance.

40:49So losing him just made me be like, I want to, you know what I mean? Right. So it's like, you know what I don't get about Toronto? All these guys disrespect. Oh, I'm smoking on his friend, top five's friend. Bro, you're smoking on a man in a wheelchair that couldn't defend himself. Like, can I go to your block and done somebody in a wheelchair? That's like, I would never do that. You cannot make me kill somebody in a wheelchair. Right. That's a cowardly act. Right. And shoot a four-year-old? What, a four-year-old got him? That's LeBron James' age. Look how LeBron been in the NBA for. Who the f*** is shooting a four-year-old?

41:22Oh, a 40-year-old. I think he's got a four-year-old. Okay. Four-year-old's worse than a four-year-old. LeBron James could probably handle it, though. More than the average four-year-old. Yeah, you're on the principle of what I'm trying to say. Don't shoot innocents. Don't shoot innocents. That's a good point, right? For sure. Females. Mm. Okay. What about, all right, they're going to kill me if I don't ask about this, but what about the incident at the subway? Wait, was that part of the villain origin story? I wasn't. People always try to bring that up. How old were you? 16, 17? 14, 15. That young?

41:51Okay. No, probably 16, probably. Uh-huh. But I was a kid. Right. So I'll tell you, I was not with the shits. Even at that time, you were like, go get the gun. No, I was a little troll thing, but I wasn't with the shits. I'll tell you straight. Now, if you do that, blow your brains off on camera. And I'll call the cops and surrender my gun. Come arrest me. I have Gary Grylls lawyer. Really? I'll be out by midnight. They got good self-defense laws out here or no? No. But when you got a lawyer like me, you're good. So, like, I don't get it. If somebody punks you off in the store right now, you're not a street nigga, right?

42:20No. And then now when you become a street nigga, they're going to use the past? Yeah. That's whack. Yeah. But there's a lot of things I could tell you about them. About how all their homies are dead. About all of them that there's no rapper in the city that chills in the city like me. I'm in the city. I chill on my block. You see those other dicks and those trannies and the weasels and this and all that? they're not in the city. So all those guys are just doing this talking shit from a different country. I need a flight, a boat, everything to get here. The f***? Why the f*** am I going to take those guys serious?

42:53So dudes pop off out here and then they quickly move to another location? Yeah, they come on here for like two weeks, talk shit. And when they're here, they chilling at Airbnb. Me, I'm just that type of nigga having a good heart. I'll chill with them. Right. So subway this, get the burner. What do you rather have? Me go ask somebody get the burner, your homie dead in my blood. Okay, so that music video, though, like, did you have a G Herbo relationship prior to that? How did that end up happening? I dropped two cases. Academics posted it, and then G Herbo calmed the fire. Something diverse. He did it, but we never dropped it.

43:29I didn't want to shoot the video. I was bored in Saigon, dick. They didn't want me to go to a range. They didn't want nothing to happen. So I went there, and then I just shot a video. I thought that was going to be better. where they say, hey, sorry to bother you. We're going to ship you to another facility. They took me seven hours away to a fucking whole city I've never been to. Just to keep you away from people you might know? That kind of thing? All my friends are in jail. Danny goes in jail with a chain. He had a cell phone in his cell. He was making TikToks. So when I was going to extradite to Toronto, I thought I was going to make TikToks with him.

44:00So it's pretty common to have a phone in jail out here? Yeah, if you have the right money. And a cheeseburger. But don't eat the cheeseburger. They might lace it, the cops. Really? The CO. So you said they were bringing new cheeseburgers and you were afraid to eat it? Yeah, the seals. I used to pay them. You used to put in the thing, the phones, everything. But you really think that they're capable of that kind of thing? That they're going to, like, poison a cheeseburger and give it to you? Isn't it going to show up in the autopsy? I feel like they would have to be worried about that. When you're dead, you can get that.

44:24Maybe you can just eat a little bit of the burger. Will you eat the burger? Probably. Do you eat pocil? Yeah. And I'll eat the poison burger. Has, no disrespect, has Landa the plug. Landa, right? Has she had sex With a Somalian before I hope not No I'm just kidding No I'm just kidding I know a lot of good Somalians You know the mall of America Do you want to see Some good Somalians I don't know What it is about Minneapolis How much to have sex With your wife Unless you're like A real Doctor I don't know How much of a love pay That was a content trade What Yeah You made a man your wife for a content?

45:09No, but he's... Yeah, well, yeah. If we weren't doing porn, then it wouldn't happen, yeah. I'm on an all-nighter right now. Huh? Well, actually... How much for content, Nick? I'll say it around you because she said it previously, but that first scene, I think, made$4 million. Oh, I'm letting my mouth f*** my worst. $4 million? You gotta give off front. You could slaughter her, everything, slap her. They could call you daddy. You could pick her after her. But that's actually why he's a good partner in all this. He's not, like, aggressive like that, you know? Yeah, but, yo, You guys are like on some gay shit.

45:38Yeah. You guys do some tug-of-war shit. I don't do that shit, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want a one-on-one with a girl. You know what I mean? I don't do what you guys do, the swingers. You couldn't do that? You guys are in a different world. Wait, but didn't I see you having an orc with Fredo? Did you videotape your wife? No, no, no. Don't lie. I wasn't there. Did you have an orc with Fredo? Who? This is a rumor. Fredo from the UK? No. But there's footage of you involved in some kind of crazy orc or something overseas, right? And the girls in this room get a f***. Girl in the other room get a f***.

46:09Privacy. One-on-one. Okay. Not like you guys, right? You guys videotape your wives' cocks. I mean... Cokes. So that's what you guys are doing, eh? I mean, you know, you gotta take a walk on the wild side, you know? Why do you guys do those things? You couldn't swing? I would never in my life. A naked man come in the room all the f***, girl. Really? These guys are smoking dope. You guys are cocks. I've always been like that, though. You never f*** a girl with your homies. Probably bad too. When I'm done, you go check her. When he's done, I'll go in the room. That doesn't count. It needs to be like a line.

46:43You got to all be standing there beating your shit. You're a freak. You're a freak. You know, you think I'm a freak sexually, and I think you're kind of a freak for various other parts of your life. Why do you say that? I don't want to get into it. You got a hat job from Kromas. That was a job. Who does that? Not a boom job, but a boom, you know, You want to watch it right now and react to it? No, I don't do that shit. Why am I looking at your shit, man? All right. How's it? I'm doing all right, right? That's Kimoni's dad and Casper's dad, the Pride Week. Oh, Jesus Christ. I guarantee you right now, I'll give you 50 ,000.

47:16If you go down kind of don't find it. Go to Pride. Walk. You'll see him. He's wearing MG4L and a headband. What's MG4L? Means. Meskeens4L. Meskeen gang4L. Okay. For life. I don't know about that. I still am curious about the swastika chain. Like, was that kind of a troll that he gave it to you? Or did he actually give it to you? I don't know. Ye's my dog. Well, I love Ye. But I went to Ye, and I said, yo, here's my GGG chain. And the man gave me a, I was so angry. I love Ye. But I was so mad that you put that Swatska chain on my neck. Because in my head, I'm like, am I getting canceled? Am I not?

47:55And then my lawyer is like, he's getting off my case. Because my lawyer is Jewish. So I was like, fuck. Your lawyer left you because of that? Yeah. Oh, my God. I mean, yeah, the hype cycle's over now. But, okay, just to state the obvious, somebody who's had a very, very positive role in your life, Drake, not only is that one of his biggest ops, but he put a symbol on you that is meant to represent the destruction of the Jewish race. And Drake is Jewish. So how did you sort of weigh the pros and cons of this? Did you check in with him before? I told him I was going, yeah, I said, you have a problem with you?

48:31He's like, no, I rock it. But you know what's so crazy that I seen, you know what's so crazy, I seen Drake after. Really? And he was laughing. Me? Drake and Robond, you know what I mean? Uh-huh. You feel me? I feel like Drake would maybe be capable of laughing about the swastika chain. Because I just feel like to him it's just got to seem like. Listen, man. Like, what is this? This is crazy. I'm on two hours of sleep, so don't mind me. That's your excuse? Prima. Yo, Prima. Woke up at 8 a.m. That slut took another nap. Woke up. Holy f***. But, Drake, let me tell you something about Drake. You guys think that guy's just a culture of all this.

49:08The man helps, you feel me? Name somebody he didn't help. He even helped a young thug to get out of jail. I mean, if anything, the narrative is that at some point he realized that he was helping so many people that ended up kind of turning their backs on him, that he sort of fell back from collaborating with so many random artists, and now he's a little bit more selective. No, answer this question. You think Drake would have even went 20 V one against all these niggas follows on the road. This episode is brought to you by chat GPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons podcast. Have you guys heard about chat GPT work?

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50:24The thing about Facebook, you might find more than what you're looking for. From a browse to a bike ride, this summer, find more on Facebook. Uh, what, if you were being attacked by 20 rappers, do I think that he would have your Do you think all those rappers would have switched on Drake with Ozon Road? Around that time, summertime, when niggas are coming to the city doing shows, yeah, Drake has gangsters and shit, but do you think if Ozon Road, that would have happened? I think those guys would have done that to my dog. Well, I mean, they did it from a safe... Have you not noticed that everybody likes him, though?

50:57Who, Drake? Yeah. It always kind of... Wait, so everybody doesn't like Drake right now? Well, that was a temporary thing that people were hating on. Because I'm on Rue. I'm a gangster's on Rue. Oh, okay. You feel me? Look what he did. He's an OG in my hood. Right. I mean, it is pretty notable that a lot of people really were counting him out, and clearly his career is doing totally fine. I feel like I put a part in that, because I would have shot guns for that. I want to circle blocks for that. So how did you feel when you first realized that Future, Metro Boomin, Kendrick, were all kind of taking aim at the boy?

51:29I feel like it's industry. You know what I mean? Till now, like us, Jonathan. I'm like, yo, for you to crip walk like that, I have to done it still. You know what's so crazy? I went to the man's hotel. The man had 100 cops over there. Right. Drake kept texting me, leave, leave, leave. He said, nah, I'm crashing on. Really? You know when you go with a bomb on your chest and you just click that button? You don't know what that's like, for the record. Also, I don't have bombs. I have something else with me that I really want to catch up with my guy. You know what I mean? But you guys are gassing up a 4-4-11 guy that just cripwalk.

51:58I could do the same thing. Cripwalk. Will you guys rock with me? I don't think he cripwalked, per se. The thing, the thing, the... There's a variety of dances. You guys have... What's that guy's name in L.A.? The little square. Smack? No, the other guy. Jay what? Jay... Oh, hit a J3. You guys have guys like hit a J3 sitting out here like he's a gangster? He just wants a feature. What's that restaurant? In-N-Out. He wants an In-N-Out burger. And he'll just sit on the block all day. I know those niggas. Hated J3 is valid, though. Valid what? He's been around for a long time. He's a serious dude.

52:33What gun issue? I don't think he ever got caught for anything. He's got a pretty... I was in L.A. for five months with them gangsters. Big U used to be my dog. Right. I used to tell Big U dragged the car for me. But you realize that some people commit crimes and then don't do interviews about them. I used to make Big 3 pick on my Chick-fil-A. You get me? Big 3 used to be my dog, man. You said Hit a J3? Big 3. Not Big U. Big U. Sorry. You were really hanging out with Big U? Yeah. Really? Hit a J3 is irrelevant. Name one gunny shot. When you ask about me in Toronto, they'll tell you about me. We do this.

53:09So why are you going to tell me about these little squares? Even in Toronto, L.A., all these guys I beef with are bitches. Because I swear to God, studio legend in my docs will tell you, if my ops are outside the way I'm outside, they would have been dead. Probably. I mean, probably a lot of people are surprised that you're not dead, given how you move around and the stuff you sound like. I pray five times a day. Right. I'm going to have some young boys ready. Right. I mean, you said you were going to Swiss cheese Kendrick's whip when he was out here. You know what I mean? And Swati would have.

53:38Yeah, I know. I'm glad you didn't do that. I'm just saying that was a pretty wild claim. My word, if Kenji didn't have cops, it would have embarrassed him. You're with the police. Yeah. How the fuck are you with the police in my city? I mean, artists at that level kind of have to move around like that. I'm sure Drake usually has a police escort when he's going to a show, right? Where? I don't know. I just assume. What does Drake have a police escort? I've seen Lil Durk going to perform in Chicago with, like, mad police cars surrounding his tour bus driving on the highway and shit. It's a pretty reasonable thing for a superstar rapper to do, right?

54:10especially one who's embroiled in brief in beef i don't think bruno mars has to do that do you think i have to do that uh i don't know ever since the crypto heist you could probably afford it right you know about the crypto uh well the most interesting thing about it is that trap or ross video where he plays the audio of drake trying to calm julian down i think that's ai yeah i thought that for like two seconds so then i kept listening to that yeah no i don't We do this. That was the first thing I was thinking, but no, I definitely don't think that was AI. AI is not that good yet. Probably five years from now, we'll be able to listen to something like that and not be able to tell the difference.

54:46Bro, you know what's so crazy in the industry now? They'll tell you to go slide, and when you slide, they say, why do you slide? You're a crash out. You f***ed up your career. And look what they're saying to Dirk. Oh, slide for Vaughn. Look how much people are in your DM selling five. Oh, ask them about his debt, homies. Then if I go do something to these guys, oh, you had a whole career. You ruined your potential. You're a crash out. So why do you think I don't listen to these kids? Right. Nowadays, people have to put each other down just to feel good. Wait, I want to go through some of the other Drake ops too, though.

55:13Like A$AP Rocky, not feeling him. He's a fish. A fish? Faggot. Ah. He's talking about A$AP Rocky. The guy that can dress. I can't beef with these guys. But Rocky's been with Rihanna for like 10 years. If you kill A$AP Rocky, you're going to jail for 25 to life. These are guys you didn't want to shoot your gun. even do this. They're mainstream rappers. Kendrick Lamar is from Compton, obviously. So if you at least get him gone out the picture, they don't care about a little dirty 411 guy that just crip walks all day. But if you get away at A$AP Rocky, you're doing life. Right. I think the cops would care equally.

55:50Look at Tory Lanez. You're doing 10 years in jail because the girl's lying on your name. You think I even want to go around the industry? Right. You think I want to go around Megan Thee Stallion? So you think... If I was Tory Lanez, I know he did not do it. 100 % I can tell you he didn't do it. But if I was him and that girl said that in my name, I would have done it 10 years and came out of the room and said I shot her. You got to tell me off camera why you're so certain that Tory didn't do it. He told me to my face he didn't do it. Well, tell me the truth. What a lot of guilty people would do that.

56:17No, he told me. I'm not a gangster, a gangster. Okay. This is all I'm saying is that I watched the trial. I paid attention to the whole thing. My impression was that he was guilty. But there's so many people in the music industry that I feel like probably know more than I know who clearly feels certain that he's innocent. Bro, you have a girl that said he shot her in the foot. Right. So even if he did it or didn't do it, I don't care. If I got framed for 10 years, I'm coming out and saying I shot the bitch in her leg. I don't give a fuck with anybody's sense. But that is kind of getting in the way of him saying he didn't do it, right?

56:52Everybody thinks, oh, if you're in jail, oh, jail's hard. I believe it. You have to do a lockdown days. The seals rush you. Look. Look at all these cuts I have, like marks. All these marks I have. It's all because of COs. What? They just puffing me, weeding me up? Oh, really? One day I told a CO, shut the fuck up. They came and rushed me, bro. Wow. This is real life shit, bro. Right. Now look at me, bro. How'd you feel when you saw that he got stabbed up in there? Cool. Tory. I first thought it was fake. Yeah. I thought it was fake, bro. Crazy. I thought this was fake. Right. I mean, we all get led to believe that dudes are going to get put in the section of the prison where they're not going to have shit like that happen, and then you find out that that kind of shit happens in PC as well, I guess.

57:36Huh? That, like, you know, the guy he got stabbed by was somebody who was in protective custody as well, I guess. Damn, Tori Lange is not in PC. No? He's talked to him on the phone all night. Oh. Yeah, I forget. But that's going to be wild when he gets out, because he's allegedly, like, not going to be able to come back to America, so he's going to have to operate everything. Wait, you died from America after this by the cops? I think so. I mean, they ban you from Canada for DUIs and shit. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. So then he's going to have to, like, live out the rest of his career in Canada and just, I mean, I assume there's still going to be a ton of opportunities, but it's going to be kind of odd.

58:11Let me tell you something about Tory Lanez. Yeah. He has a smart mind. Yeah. So if a girl looks like a rapper, that's enough to scare you off? You look like a Chinese. If a girl looks like a guy, I'm not touching. Nowadays, the world's so f***ed, you have to look at a girl's ID before. because the police is really a girl. There's some guys in Dripwood that slept with transgenders. Really? I swear, yo. You're all over the place. You're saying that they are transgenders and now you're saying they sleep with transgenders. There's a real story where they had a trap and they're all sleep with her. But I'll skip that.

58:44I'll skip that. Because big bro told me skip that. Really? But yeah, the man that touched man. Fire. Mend them. Nah, they touched man.

58:58I really honestly you're like top top 1 % of people that I interview and I'm just sitting here not knowing what the f*** to say because it's just you're so unpredictable is that about me? no it's great honestly it's not gonna get you a million views? because he was doing well off this yeah better than all your American artists what's the problem with you on Friday Ricky just really love hip hop? what's the problem with him? what? you tell me what's it? I mean he's like trying to hang out with me but I just like I feel like he's ran his mouth about me a little too much. And so then when he hits me up to hang out, I'm just like, really?

59:33So you're telling me Friday is weird. I'm not saying he's weird. What are you saying he's weird? I'm not saying he's weird. I'm just saying I wasn't dying to go do his podcast. Can I call him right now? No, you're worried. Why are we clubbing these people up? I'm going to squash it. I'm going to squash it with you on Friday. I'm still not going to do his podcast. You know me. I'm the king of lies. As you started saying that, I'm like, oh, my God, he's here. He's got to be one of these guys. No, no, no, no, no, no. See, yo, Friday, I'm here to squash the beef. What's up? 22, what are you saying, bro?

1:00:09Not as much as he's saying. What's going on, man? I responded to your message that time, bro. Tell me specifically what I said that's fucked up and we can resolve it. We're doing, we're on stream right now. I'd be lying if I said I remembered. So right now, can we squash it and get a collab? No jumper, we love hip hop. I'm out of here tomorrow, so probably not enough time. Yo. I don't have any beef with you, Adam. It's on you, you know what I'm saying? I say a lot of shit because we both record a lot. So I'm sure I might have said some shit that wasn't as favorable to you, you know what I'm saying?

1:00:47But at the same time, there's no hard feelings. It's not like I hate you or some shit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I don't hate you either. Yo, beef squash. Listen, I'm going to talk to Adam. We're squashing it right now. Hey, I'm down, bro. Don't say a word. Friday. I won't lie, Adam, he does have the biggest platform in Toronto when it's the interviews. Okay. He's like, he is you of cannabis. What about Six Buzz? Didn't you rob the owner for his chain? Let me call you back. I didn't rob him. But you were wearing his chain at one point, right? My word, I'll tell you the truth. Six Buzz is my bro.

1:01:22This is a guy, he pissed me off one day, And then the niggas that took his chain are from the next neighborhood. So I just said, give me your chain. You know what I mean? But I didn't take his chain. We're good, man. It's blessed. When you get this on your neck, when you get this on your neck, when you get this on your pinky, when you get this on your wrist, when you get this on your wrist, come call me. Preston got his chain took by a bitch. The whole world know that. Camelie got his chain took. The whole world know that. You ain't hear nobody say they took Fai's chain. Peppy or black, kid? Come see my way.

1:01:58I wouldn't even send no, but I'll come myself, nigga. Dolo. Recent narrative is that Toronto might not be as in Drake's corner as a lot of people thought because we all saw the Kendrick performance. Seemed like the crowd was having a great time singing along. I'm sure you're not a fan of this being perceived this way. And I don't even know why. See, it can hurt me because I f*** with Jake. Well, I love Jake. but I don't know how people can say oh it hurts to drink he has a billion dollars Adam be honest even if your wife cheated on you or if I had a wife or my wife cheated on me we have billions you not hear me billions you think I give a you can all come in my wife's pussy the billions might help you feel a little bit better but I gotta say it's a little different when your city that everybody assumed had his back seems like, you know, they were gleefully enjoying Not Like Us.

1:02:55See, my homie right there, he likes this girl. He likes her a lot. I don't like girls like that. So why would I care if I had a billion dollars? Right. You're saying there's enough lane in Toronto to attend that show? Can you bring the K-Money? Oh, you cut with it, eh? See, that's Money Boy. He's a rapper, man. Uh-huh. Which one of these guys are the ones who jump K-Money? They're from Amsterdam. I don't know who the fuck K-Money jumped that youth. Oh, okay. I was just watching that video last night. I was wondering. How bad was it? Severe? It wasn't pretty. Would you ever fuck with those guys that did it?

1:03:29Would I? Would you ever disrespect the people that did it? That probably not. Why? I don't want to get my chain hooked. I don't have a chain, so I'll be all right. That's a good thing. Okay, that's good. That's good. I'm telling you right now. So you don't have any strong emotions about that? No. The Kendrick thing. Why? What does it do for me? I'm in the hood. Right. See, if a man made it, I won't lie. Okay, you're right. It should hit Drake because the whole world's singing on to it. I'm a prideful guy. Right. But Drake has a billion dollars. What the f*** do you care about Kendrick Lamar for?

1:04:02Okay, I'll give you the good defense of it. Is that we all sang along to back-to-back. Nobody was, like, hating on Meek like that. You know, maybe now it might be a little bit different. But, like, we all sang along, you know, I f*** your bitch, your fat. We didn't hate Biggie. I feel like, you know, a good song is a good song. hip-hop fans, they love diss music. They don't necessarily hate the person that's being dissed. So that's the only defense, I think, that you need is that even though all those people who were singing along to that song are not really, like, Drake haters, they just like the song.

1:04:32No way. I mean, that's how I feel. You know who Clutch is? See this guy. You know who JJ is? I am starting to get an idea who Clutch is. He's very demonic. I feel like him being underage, you should just kind of leave him out of this equation. Out of every opera, every disc. What's the best name, remember this. Oh, I don't know. You tell me. Sluggy? You guys have been talking about that one for years, huh? A sluggy got my heart racing. We smoke, niggas, for real. Smoke on them on the blunts. I don't know who did it. I don't know. I bet you wish you smoked just for that, huh? Even though all the dead ops die and shit, I don't smoke weed.

1:05:12So when I say I'm smoking on them, I don't know. Don't believe me. But vape. I don't even do vape. No. I never did a line of coke. Bridging, what are you on, brother? I'm just wondering. That's something you do, eh? I used to. How much time a day? CF, fentanyl? It was more like a Friday night, Saturday night thing. You ever do car fentanyl? What's car fentanyl? That's what a drug. You do fentanyl in the car? CF, have you ever done CF? I mean, I'm sure I've done some fentanyl. Oh, my God. I mean, if you're just doing drugs. But honestly, I stopped doing drugs around the time that fentanyl became a thing.

1:05:47So you're dopey. I used to be. That was like 2019. That's why I stopped. We do dice right now. If I lose, I'll give you 5K. If I win, you do CF. Carfentano. I mean, you can't threaten me with a good time. Sounds fun. I don't know. You never took a perk. So you don't even know how good it feels. So that's what I'm saying. When I disc that off, I'm really like. Kids, leave it alone. I see that. Yeah, if you were a perk head, maybe you would be a little less focused on that shit. off so when I say I'm smoking on your homie it's like I don't even smoke you should snorten up be the first one to do it bring him some coke snort clutch rack me up some Doritos snort clutch snort clutch when I think about the dead op I can't even think of a good dead op that I have that like anybody would know if Friday dies would that be a dead op nah I don't care about that they're gonna think it's Friday the singer dude He's my favorite fighter.

1:06:46He's my favorite fighter, Rick and Jack. No, I'm not. I said, yo. You just said I didn't want to do this podcast. I said, yo, make fighter come here. He's like, he's a weirdo. You know what's so crazy? My homies were telling me, don't do with that guy. Really? Fucking crazy. Don't bring that guy here. Really? Yeah, my homies hate him. Why? He's square. Yeah. He tried to lie to the world that said Drake had sex with my sister. What? To whack 100. And you don't even give a shit. You're still calling him? Because I'm the type of guy who bring in a f***ing studio on death, Ozzy. until you go sit down.

1:07:16So you're going to call them to the studio and then you're just going to smack the shit out of them? I mean, that's how life goes. Yeah, that does happen sometimes, huh? Um, okay. Who are you on this interview? One hour? We did 40 minutes in the hood. We're almost done, honestly, because I just... Oh, yeah, okay. XO. It's not actual beef? Bro, I want everybody to hear this. $3 million? For a drive-by? I did not shoot up the weekend's house. Most expensive drive-by of all time. That's the moment that I realized that the Julian guy was tweaking. Nobody's getting paid$3 million for a drive-by. Yo, I did not shoot up the weekend's house.

1:07:54So first off, Exo. Let me tell you about Exo. Sure. I don't have no problem with these guys. I just didn't like how Cash was dressing. So if I'm posting your outfits and shit. But let me tell you something. I swear, Wallahi. Wallahi. Every time I post Cash, I eat. The last time I post Cash, Exo, I walked out of a hotel and got arrested. because my incovalent died. And the last time I discussed Exo, a week later, cops pulled me over. It's the next day. Something about that guy, don't play with him. I'm telling everybody on the homes, that nigga got police on standby. I don't have problems with Exo.

1:08:26They're blessed. Cash, I know you while you're rolling with police because you're scared. And yeah, and I'm on whatever my homie's on. You know what I mean? So if my homie don't fuck with you, fuck you, nigga. If my homie likes you, I rock with you, nigga. That's how life goes. Everybody says, oh, why you dick riding? It's life. If my friend right here says, it's life. You know what I mean? I don't know why everybody keeps saying, yo, you know what I mean, Studio Legends? Why everybody keeps saying, I don't know why everybody keeps saying, oh, he's a dick rider. If you don't like somebody and you're my friend, that person.

1:08:57It seems like a bad thing for the future of Toronto as a musical hub that all the underground rappers are beefing and then the two biggest artists are also beefing. Let me ask you a question. Sure. What has XO? No, I don't beef like XO. Okay. What have they done for Toronto? I mean, made a bunch of music, I'm assuming. Who did EXO give a future to in Toronto? That's a good question. Who did EXO bring on tour in Toronto? Who did they give$100 ,000 to in Toronto? But Draco did with us. You know what I mean? So it's like, do not bring up guys that don't deal with the city. I don't have a problem with EXO.

1:09:30Just don't like how cash put the teams, you know what I mean? Devil's advocate. A lot of people would say that that is a very reasonable decision by them to not want to so overtly associate themselves with dudes who are in the streets. What the f***? How do you think all these street artists just blew up Little Dirk? He came from a block. Right. Who's shiest? He came from a block. But I'm sure you've seen the YouTube documentaries that are basically alleging that Drake is part, is like basically wrapped up in some kind of crazy criminal conspiracy. You're a f***ing rat friend, me, that. Yeah. Shout out Trappler Ross.

1:10:00No, Trappler Ross is not a, I didn't call Trappler Ross a rat. Oh, okay. I called the WAC 100. Oh, okay. Because WAC 100 has all you guys believe in that. Drake is sending me on hits. The man don't send me on no hits. What the f*** do you think? So you're thinking Drake, you think Drake just sends me to go do stuff? No, the man's my dog. He does stuff for me. I do stuff for him legit. But if somebody plays it, I'm pulling up. Right. Giving them the show cause. Right. That's... When you went to the club last night, you tell them not to play any Drake Ops? They know they can't. I didn't hear. The only one when they played Travis Scott and Cardi, Dean.

1:10:36I'm like, listen. I have a Scots beef on a jerk? Well. More the Cardi thing. No. I think he hates Cardi. They were Cardi's beef on a jerk? I think that that's a thing. That's a new one to me. Really? A very new. Hmm. I asked you a question. You didn't answer my question. What was the question? Do you know Clutch? No. I do not know Clutch. I could do some research tonight if you want. Who's? You want me to search top five Clutch? No, who's Clutch? It's a 16-year-old kid who died that you've been telling me about this whole interview. Fuck that nigga. I slept in myself for a green year's brain that I get a platform just to say wow no no let me just say one thing for the camera man one thing Adam ready to end it or more questions we can end it whatever okay record this is how we're going to end the interview when you come to Toronto it's a GGG GGG side when you come to Toronto there's also Western Road side There's also, you know what, big up my niggas in CLE.

1:11:39Big up the Vern niggas too that my dog Studio Legends manage. But when you come here, it's fuck the staff, 3LK, fuck the lane, Neptune, Complex, Fall Staff times 20. Them niggas know what's up with me. When you talk about Toronto, talk about this nigga, this crazy young nigga. We'll take your chain, will shoot your bro, will shoot your homies, and everything. Fuck the staff, nigga. Two, three, four, f***ing K, nigga. You get me, right? What do we say when you're chilling and you're nice? Chillaxing. No, what do you say, Adam? I can think of a whole... No, what is that thing? Three LK. So that's a word in Toronto where you mean if you chill, you feel me?

1:12:24Uh-huh. So we're in the interview, man. Top five, man. Fuck clutch, nigga. Woo! Jesus Christ. Okay, you guys have all just spent the past hour looking into the eyes of the devil himself. I apologize for putting you through this. Top five. He is what he is. Take him or leave him. Lala Jason, nigga. DBK, nigga. DBK all summer, nigga. You know what I mean, nigga. And if it's personal, Siri, please play Ryder Rich Walking Down. Yo, I need a studio legend shirt like that. What the f***? Yo, come get a picture of us. Yo, take a picture on your phone. All right, no jumper clues podcast. Like, comment, and subscribe.

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