Trust Mula on Becoming a Latin King, 15 Years in Prison, Dropping his Flag & More

23:29I had an uncle named Taz. Rest in peace. My uncle Taz. I was inspired. He was official nigga. Tough. What, nigga? Mon der re? And he throw that. He be like, yo, my crown represents my people Latino. They were with Latino. They acted like Latinos. We heard music. can't let you go my love barbecues and you know real good music south side music these kids are all listening to drill music they forget they way go back to your culture man go back to good i'm telling you it's all part of that shit yeah a lot of people losing their ways the music industry too yeah that's making people think that that's like i remember uh i was in the studio and there was some random ass dude you know he wanted to be a rapper as a random ass kid And he just starts like starting to just really complain to an extent where I was like, bro, like why the fuck are you telling me all this shit?

24:15But then I'm listening to him and I'm realizing that he's he's telling me how he feels like he can't be a rapper because he don't got no bodies. He don't got no like street shit to talk about. And I'm just sitting there thinking like, what a predicament to be in that. Like you feel like the only way for you to be known as a rapper is to have done things that will get you 35 years in prison. and this kid is like so, you know, he's just like kind of realizing, like he probably dreamed about being a rapper for 10 years and he's like realizing that nobody wants to hear him talk about clothes, drip, whatever.

24:51Nobody cares. Yeah, it's a hard time in the rap game in general now. Nobody cares. Because everybody's numb to all the violent shit. But look, I could talk violence, you ready? And still make a hit. You ready? You ready? I've been selling cocaine, harrying on the law, dipping from the police, swearing on parole, Livin' in the fast lane, pedals to the floor I don't need a shootout myself, let it go Nigga gotta go, and the nigga gotta go Hollows hit your temple, that's a body on parole Give me Amber Rose, I'ma fuck her till she broke If the music shit don't make it, I'ma make it sellin' coke Dope, okay Stuck up in the dope gang Makin' money switchin' lanes Real nigga fuck, lames, no game Stuck up in the coke gang Some melody that minors All negative, but it was the melody, you see?

25:35It made you want to. So these kids. Now, what you say. That phrase that they've been telling us for years is how you say it. Why you think 50 Cent is 50 Cent? Yeah. He was talking the same shit everybody else was talking realistically. And the melody. But he was really, really talented. He had the melodies. Even his whole mixtape run before he started trying. He was going crazy. And then also, he had the story. Back in the day when getting shot was enough Now you gotta shoot people Now you gotta have bodies You can't be an almost pack You gotta have some packs that you created I'm over here trying to think of like a dope 50 bar And I can't even like pick one Baby if you give it to me I'll give it to you Now he remix Baby if you get on your knees Put me in your mouth and suck me off Like I mean That's 50 You in the house What nigga what Do you hear that?

26:34What, what, what, what? It's the energy. It's the sound. It's the fags. Bro, but I was, I listened to a random ass 50 Antonio song the other day, and it just like hit me like, you know when you listen to a rapper, and I got this feeling, this is a new Pusha St album too, where you're listening to a dude rap, but you just realize like there's absolutely no way that he's just talking shit. Like he really was in the streets having guns and doing crazy ass shit. and like some of those bars they used to be sitting on those mixtapes were like the kind of bars that you just don't get from somebody who doesn't live this and that's a cheesy thing too he's talking about which switches fit on which guns better I'm like oh this guy really all his shit about jail he's like you know this yard's soft so I'm not gonna bring my knife I'm gonna just keep my lock and all this shit that I'm like oh please that shit was the corniest shit he could've said nah cause he was on a corny yard I was just like you know It's just f***ing hell.

27:31Right? But he's fresh out, so he's still got all this s*** in his mind. I'm fresh out. He's talking about he's going to cut up his locker. 1090 Jake said that that's too loud. You can't make a banger out of your locker, I guess. It's too loud. I just did it. Every person got to be different. I just did it. You did? Ready? I started off in Rikers. Attica. Flex is spinning over. Hell yeah. That's how I started it. Crazy. Off my f***ing locker. Bang it, bro. Damn. But the difference between me and other artists is I went outside and believed in myself. Confidence is the key to success. I didn't give myself an excuse.

28:06You know, let me tell you something that you're going through with your mom. I meant to talk about this, right? So when you hit me at yesterday, my heart dropped when you texted me that. Right? And I'm going to tell you right now, I lost my mother. She was 47 years old. She was born in 1973. I was in upstate box. In the box when my mother passed away. And let me tell you something. So everybody who lost their mother out there, man, I'm sorry, man. you need God or whoever's your biggest comforter when you deal with a death like that losing my mother is a hole in my chest that's never gonna get filled do you wanna stand that this is why I changed my life around cause she said you like jail that shit can't be fun to you like promise me one thing it's like my mother knew she was gonna go do you think it fucked you up way worse that you weren't able to be there in her last moment it fucked up that she died on Mother's Day oof 2022 May 7th we go back Like that's when mothers think.

28:56Damn, and you were only two years away from getting out then. I was a year away, I thought. And then, you know, when I lost my mother, I lost it in there. Oh, shit. So I did another year. You know what I mean? And one dude played with me. I wasn't hearing words. I just wasn't trying to talk to this nigga. Wow. And I blazed him. I lost my good time. Damn. So, you know, when you lose your mother, man, God forbid anybody in this room, please, please don't lose yourself. Understand that mommy has to go to the next level. and if you believe in God and if she tells you, she's the mother that tells you all the time, you know, keep God first.

29:28You know, Adam, make sure you always praise to God. Adam, Adam. And you always, you always gonna hear your mother say, Adam, Adam, Adam. And you just have to, Adam, bro, I promise you, man, you just have to make sure that you make peace and you forgive anything, bro. Yeah. Because when you lose your mom, you just gonna forgive everybody that you had a problem with, man. Like when my sister texted me last night and told me my mom was in the hospital, it was like, for that, this moment, it's like, I realized that I have had had this big warm blanket of love wrapped around me my whole life that is my mom.

30:00And that as soon as she said she was in the hospital and there was a moment where we really didn't know if it was gonna be okay, if it was bad, it seems like it's pretty good now. I think she's gonna be all right. But there's just a moment where I felt that blanket lift up off of me and all of a sudden I felt like, oh, like living life without that constant acknowledgement that you have this person that's loved you so much from the instant that you entered the world. I mean. Yo, Adam, I almost cried just hearing you say that, right? This is a very touchy. Dude, this is like the most touchiest subject you could get on because losing a mother, bro, is the hardest thing that I've ever went through in my life.

30:45Yeah. Because, yo, Adam, there's nobody, like you said, that could ever say your name the way you hear her say your name when she don't see you. Adam! Oh, the way she touches you and hugs you, bro. Look, I got chills. So when you did that yesterday, Adam, when you text me, I say, you know what, man? God bless you. I pray for her. And I know this interview can't be so long because you got to get back to that. No, that's good. I mean, but that's the weird thing, too, is that now she's saying she don't want me to come see her right now because she don't feel like she's put together or whatever. And I'm like, listen, I got to fucking come see you.

31:17Go see her. Stop it. They always try to be strong. This strong lady. This, don't worry about me, baby. Just you do you. I'm okay. No. I told my grandmother the other day. Right. Switch seats. I'm doing it for a reason because it's strong. You come back. I'm bad, Bobby. I'm doing it because I want her complexion in this video. Yeah. My grandmother looks like an Indian woman. She's Indian. Okay. So my grandmother is short. But she's this, and I told her, Grandma, I'm reaching success in my life. Soon, you gotta go. You can't be living in the projects where I grew up at. Do you feel like realistically she could ever become a target or something?

32:03Is that a realistic consideration? Yeah. You see, dudes in New York, man, I don't know about Cali. I can't talk about Cali. But I've known dudes in New York that their mother opened the door, the peephole, and got shot through the peephole. Damn, that's f***ing. That's some coward ass shit, huh? Yo, these dudes, you know what it is? These dudes will be big bloods, big crypts, kings, whatever they want to be, and they'll tell a little young kid who they feel like is a dojo, a n***a that just don't listen to the nation and just like, he look like a bozo, and they'll send that bozo to do a gangsta's job.

32:38And what happens is the bozo f*** up. They know. They don't care. These kids are impulsive. This is why I made the positivity for the youth, because by the time we see a problem now, see, back then when we was bad, dudes see it. We outside. They be like, you, get over here, Adam. Yo, trust. Get the fuck up. What the fuck is you doing, man? Cut the shit out. Now, the adults just see guns blaring and bullets flying because the problem is done here. Yeah. All the beef is already done by the time these kids come outside to execute. Yeah, it's crazy how much the phone amplified that shit. I might not be able to go back to New York right now.

33:13Really? No, and I'm not scared to admit that. So you stay somewhere else? Got it. Okay. Yeah. But you know what's crazy? I went to Florida to just go on a self-tour positivity. Yeah? Like by myself with$100 on me. Did you fucking hate it? No. I hated the drive. Florida is, there are cities that have some culture and some shit going on, you know? But there's a lot of Florida that is just the most stock, boring, strip mall, suburban shit that as much as it might be a good idea from a tax perspective and everything, I don't know. I just feel like I've probably taken years off my life having to live in a place that got no energy.

33:55I kind of feel that. Which again, there are cities that are dope as fuck. Don't get me wrong. They're dope as fuck. Yeah. Orlando's cool. Yeah. But the thing is with Florida, it's a good place to live. Just live. Yes. For retirement communities and shit, which is a huge percentage. Live. You pay$1 ,400, you're going to get a three bedroom big. Cali's the most expensive place I've been to. I think Cali's more expensive than New York. Especially when you consider how New York is stacked on top of each other and Cali's like spread out, but then still is basically just as expensive. As expensive. That don't make no sense.

34:26Gas prices and lost his mind. Not only that, I bought a Fanta yesterday. It was$3. I could have got two of those in New York. I thought$1.50 was too much. For real? I bought a Fanta,$3. Yeah, man. That's interesting. Because I feel like New York, like grocery and bodega prices were always pretty shocking to me. That's how I felt about Cali. I said, why is it fucking cheaper in New York, man? Well, you get more for your buck. Quality is better here. You even said that about the food. Yeah, because you eat organic all day. Mia, I go for the cheapest thing. She won't let me. Oh, organic. Yeah. I was like, all right.

35:01That's real. I was eating Modega food the whole time I lived in New York. Fire, right? Now, I'm eating fucking organic shit and healthy-ass food all the time. but then when I go back to New York it's like bacon, egg, and cheese bagel for breakfast and then I won't eat for seven hours and I'm like, oh I forgot how good that bagel is. It just sits in your stomach. Takes care of you all day. That's the OG Ozempic. Makes you stop eating. You just eat the bagel. You don't want to eat for a long ass time. We don't have that here. The bagel culture Nah, but I feel like the bagel culture in the valley and shit, I've been seeing it prosper.

35:35There's a lot of trendy bagel spots. Are they actually good or are they$40 for one bagel? I've seen a$40 bagel out here. $40? It has salmon and lox and all these. Oh, wow. Bells and whistles. Yeah, you didn't see a$40 bagel. You seen a$40 salmon hooked up bagel. Yeah. I mean, I don't blink when I go to the UC Boys truck and they got like a$15 bagel or something. I don't even blink. But it does, you know, it's got that real good quality meat. It's not just like one egg and two tiny pieces of bacon. I get it. It costs more. But, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can't trust every Habibi store, man. You can't?

36:07And in New York, you can't trust every Arabic store. For real? Nah, man. Put it like this, man. If I walk in a store and I see a cat sitting on top of a bread, I don't really want to eat. Let me be honest with you. You don't like the bodega cat? Nah, I don't like the bodega cats. I call them bodega baddies, nah. Another baddie? Another bodega baddie, but nah. I don't like that. It's cat hair. That means they shed. It's fur. It's hair all around. But I like it because having a cat is such a pain in the ass, but then having a cat that you get to see at the bodega, every day or two. It's just a nice moment.

36:39I was like, the honorary pet. I guess you could look at it like they eating the rats. They do, yeah. We're mouse free, but. Wait, all right. So, when would you say you jumped off the porch for real and started moving around? So, for real, for real, I got locked up and incarcerated at the age of 16. Okay. You know, like gone. For a long time. Like gone. Okay. And then, I did like four out of that. Came home. And then. And that was for what? A robbery or something? That was for, a whole bunch of other shit that they sentenced me for. Robbery, escape. I escaped from a juvenile detention center. Wow.

37:13So when I escaped from a juvenile detention center, I was 16. I got locked up 15. I was 16. I threw myself in a sanitation truck. Did you go right back in the hood after that? Yeah. And they probably were looking for you there? Yeah, I turned myself in. They were like, they're going to kill you. My sister was crying and my stepfather. So after I turned myself in, yeah, I threw myself in a sanitation truck. It was Black History Month, and I was working in the mess hall. I told a dude from the Bronx, throw me in the garbage can and tie me in. So I'm in the bag. In the bag. Yeah, I'm in the bag. He tied me in.

37:44He said, yo, be easy, my nigga. Yo, I got to hurry up. So they come. They say his truck closes. Mind you, they made us rush the garbage out because the truck was coming. Yeah. So I went back in. They're not paying attention. They think we're both back inside, right? And the truck picks me up.

38:03Throws me in the back. You ever see when they throw the, when the garbage truck comes and it's got like the giant like thing that's crushing everything I'm getting there so that shit starts doing that it starts doing it I didn't know that that was gonna happen what that is a really important thing to think about I was very impulsive so I didn't think and I didn't know that that I just thought I was a kid man I just thought that that shit goes in the machine I'm in the projects we don't see sanitation trucks like that right they come when we're sleeping I got school in the morning so I didn't think the truck was gonna like it could destroy anything.

38:36You could throw a friggin' mini fridge in there and it's gonna... Gone. So I've heard, I heard the noises that I'm describing. Mind you, that's the machine lifting the can up. When they eat stuff garbage, they ate trust moolah. Right? And then the machine started going... I'm getting anxiety right now. Promise you. It was like a horror movie. I promise you. It was all in my rap sheet. It's a whack 100, dig it up. She goes... Starts crushing me. I said, Father, Jesus, please. I felt the pressure on my body after I was done. The machine that spoke. Really? So maybe it's got like a setting that like it can tell if there's a human or...

39:14I found it out. Especially those trucks, you know. So? Jesus saved my life. The Lord saved my life. It just stopped on its own? It stopped and it opened back up. When it opened back up, I opened the truck and I started screaming, I said, oh, me, Jesus. There wasn't a person operating. It was automatic just... Oh, it was a person operating. Trucks don't drive these up. This is 2005. But you don't think that that guy pressed a button that stopped it from chewing you up, eating you? No. Because right there, he would have stopped the truck and told the jail that somebody back there, he got out the gate.

39:48And it had to be his last stop because I don't care where I was at. Because me trying to get out, it took me that long to get out the garbage to try to like, I'm swimming in garbage now. Yeah. Trying to get out the truck to make it to the front. By the time I made it, the truck had slowed down. I ran out. I started running. I hear boop, boop, boop. All right, sirens. I hop in a deuce truck. He had metal poles in the truck. Imagine a truck with a flatbed, right? The back with a wooden gate around the truck. It was horseshoes, bro. He was delivering horseshoes. It was metal poles coming out. I never seen a horseshoe truck in my life to this day.

40:27Me neither. So it had metal poles going up with horseshoes on it stacked. For sure. I went in. It was a white dude. I went inside his truck. I said, yo, bro. He said, yo, what the fuck? I said, bro, the police are chasing me. He said, yo, what the fuck, bro? He looks back. He said, yo, bro, get the fuck down. I got down. He said, oh, they fucking really looking. He said, you smell like shit too, bro. Oh, my God. Whoever this white dude is, man, if you remember this story, bro, I love you, bro. I pray you alive. He was a hardworking man. I pray you alive. Wow. and you're wearing the jail clothes or whatever so is it like super obvious it's tan yeah I'm wearing the juvenile jail equipment on yeah so he's seen he's like oh but this dude you could tell you obviously he was a white dude did some time you could tell he wasn't no fuck he had a rough life before so he takes me to the furthest train station in the Bronx I asked him to do me that favor and then he goes to telco and buys me an outfit wow thank you again legend he's a fuck legend that's a good white boy right there yo when I fuck thank you bro I'm telling you I'm gonna know it was you Got you.

41:27And so then how'd you actually get home? I took the f**king train. Oh my God. He paid for the train. Oh, sick. It was a dollar fifty back then. He said, here's three dollars, kid. Wow. He said, don't hop the train, whatever you do, and get the f**k out of Dodge. If I was you, I'd be going to Mexico. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. You gotta like not go to your block. But you're 16, who the f**k do you know? I went to my block. Yeah. I just wanted to smoke weed and f**k the little b**ch that I had that I was worried about cheating on me because I was a little tender d**k, n**ga. Don't know no better.

41:53The first time in jail. My love of my life and my girl. Wait, how long were you in before you escaped? Four months. Oh, my God. So I don't know who she fucking and sucking. Definitely suck somebody else's dick. You had to take a shower before you saw her, though. I didn't even get a chance to see her. Oh, they caught you like that day? I went in the house, took a shower. My stepfather came in with my sisters. They were crying like there was no tomorrow. I told them, let me get some purse. Then they just started crying some more. They're going to kill you. And then I was like, wow. So you called 911 and I turned myself around.

42:28Guess what though? I thought I was going back to the juvenile shit. Okay. No. When I went to the precinct, right, that precinct was so tired of me. They went, happy birthday to you. They gave me a piece of cake and everything. The police. I'm not lying to you. Just because they were going to send you somewhere worse? They said, I'm adult now. I'm 16. I went to Rikers Island. Wow. and so they were kind of clowning you as in like hey enjoy this they're like you ain't gonna get out of this one yeah have fun with these fucking psychos have fun with these and I went to Rikers Island in adolescence when I talk about this is where I turned king at this is where I made it official when I was born in a lifestyle right but you were young young being born in a lifestyle doesn't make me a Latin king it makes me aware of what the Latin kings are right but you probably would have got put on but it happened in jail yeah it happened in jail for me So I was on the verge of like, fuck the Bloods actually.

43:23And then it wasn't for me too much. The way they was moving, beating each other up. It wasn't family oriented. It wasn't like a brotherhood. But was your version of the Bloods, like in the project that you grew up in, it was all black dudes? Or was it they had Spanish people? It was not too many, but they had. It was very rare. At that time in 2005, it existed. But to be a Spanish Blood, you had to put on more than a black Blood. because you had to prove that you really wanted this shit. Yeah, because in L.A., like a Mexican dude who's a blood, like we would all be shocked. Like everybody would be paying attention to him.

43:57He's viral off of it. Like we got to know about this dude, you know. That's just like so out of the ordinary, you know. People love that shit. I know a Mexican dude who's or a black dude who's in a Mexican gang. Everybody want to talk about that. I know a white dude in a black gang. Everybody want to talk about this fool. You know, it's just so fascinating to people. Right, right. I mean. And he's a Puerto Rican here in L.A. that's like a unicorn. Yeah, Puerto Rican, they don't know about that out here, yeah. Nobody knows what that is. Serious? It's just like almost every, yeah, almost every Hispanic person is basically gonna be Mexican in LA I would feel like.

44:31Occasional, you know, you meet people from other places but it's not very common, yeah. That's how it was when I was in Baltimore, Maryland. I did time out there too being a Latin king. I went to Baltimore, Maryland and we had a tribe out there. Oh yeah? And I ended up going incarcerated over there. When I went into their jail system, they were like, You a Doug? I said, what is a Doug? I thought it was a show. Remember the cartoon show? Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. That like Quail Man. That like Quail Man. Put the belt on your head with the underwear. That was my shit, man. So he's like, yo, you a Doug?

45:00Little Rod, no, I said, man, what's that? Man, what the fuck is a Doug? He said, little Doug. Woof, woof, woof. I said, you mean a Doug? A Doug? A Doug? I'm like, what's that? That was how they identified a gang called DMI or BGF. Black Gorilla Family, which is, and then DMI is a white group. with the black guys in Baltimore. Really? So Dead Men Incorporated is the white guys. They got DMI with the pyramid and all C &I. And then you have BGF, Black Gorilla Family. That comes from, you know, the culture of some dude who died. I don't really know. They represent 276 for the letters BGF, second letter to the alphabet, seven, seven, seven.

45:33But the blacks and the whites are tied in and then they just beef with the Hispanics? They beef with the Crips. Oh, okay. They beef with anybody. No, no, no. No, they cook with the Crips. They beef with the Bloods. Oh, okay. So the way the Bloods are in New York, because you see how they're powerful when the Crips are not. Like, they look down on the Crips. Yeah. Especially back in the days. Which is kind of the opposite of L.A. where the Bloods feel like the minority. Yeah, L.A. is the opposite? Yeah, there's like way more Crips. Same thing in Baltimore. There's more Crips than Bloods, so the Bloods is like outnumbered.

45:58Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah. Crazy scenario. All right, so you get into Rikers, which, you know, just recently I interviewed a dude who was like a Stephen, who was like a corrupt guard there. He was like telling me some crazy-ass story about he caught a huge Fed case for sneaking drugs into the prison and shit like that. But you get into that environment, and is it just cracking from day one? How was it for you? Was it outrageous? Were you having to think about getting stabbed or stabbing somebody all the time? In Micah's Island, bro, it was straight gladiator school. Yeah. Like in 2005, you see this chair you sitting on?

46:34Back then, if I sat on anything other than a chair, they saying you sitting on Iron Dick. So they have tables that are in place in Rikers Island that don't move, that solder to the floor with a metal bench. Whoever sits on that is considered a day room nigga. Now a day room person in their eyes is somebody who don't have a chair. So this chair is stacked. So what you have to do, I didn't know this is my first time on Rikers Island. I didn't grab a chair. I sat on the iron dick. You get it? So I didn't know that I was sitting where the day room nigga sit. so when I sat on the on the metal seat that's for everybody all the tough niggas is looking at all he with it he with it now if you with it that means you're gonna give up your commissary your sneakers everything so I'm looking at niggas what you mean I'm with it though what y 'all talking about me not really being a day room nigga not really being like shut up nigga you sitting on a day room dick nigga I'm like hold on who the talking to that's so crazy to have these very specific rules and then be like we're not telling you about it And then if you break the rule, we're just going to like completely assassinate your character.

47:41Assassinate your character. So I got up. Who the fuck you talking to? When I got up to go approach. And you're 17? I'm 16 on the dock. 16 still. Okay. In my first crib. When I go up to approach. You see seven, eight, nine dudes just get up and start popping on me. Immediate. The same dudes that were sitting on the table I was sitting on. They called day room pop-off dummies. They were calling them iPods, international pop-off dummies. Wait, so even though these dudes were like damn near punks, right? Is that basically what you're saying? But they would still fall in line? They were the ones that were scared of the tough, tough guys or the guys who they thought were tough.

48:23Okay. And they were pointing in work for points, for clout. Yeah. That was the first clout chasers. Dayroom niggas in Rankers Island were the first clout chasers. Wow. And could those dudes like graduate to be in the sort of upper echelon tough guys squad at some point or maybe not? Yeah, they can graduate to be the tough guys. They ended up, a few of them ended up taking the cribs. So every crib belongs to one dude and his team. Now, if you tough, you're going to take that crib from that dude. Right. So I didn't know none at that time. I just got beat up. I went to my cell. They gave me a shirt because I had blood all over me.

49:01The CO came, you holding it down. I'm like, what you mean? What you mean? You want to fight too? You want to fight me too? Suck my dick. The CO's like, no. You need medical attention or not. You holding it down. Now, if you say you need medical, you tell it. That's telling just to want to go get stitched up? To go get any type of attention. Wow. Or you want this Tylenol and you stay here in the crib. I said, well, I ain't no right. Give me the fucking Tylenol. Pairing, blood on bleeding. But you couldn't say I fell off the top bunk or something? No. You could, but they're not stupid. So now they go and say there was no top bunk.

49:36They're not stupid. They know the situation. I just heard a lot of gangsters making up bullshit. So the shield told me, I like you. Really? That's so crazy that they play into it too. They play right into it. They're anti-snitching. They're pro-tough guy. Because from their perspective, of course, they don't want their homies snitching on them. So they got to respect you, not snitching, right? So what happened was, She told me the game. Mama G, shout out Mama G, that CO though. Shout it out to her though. I don't hate her. She told me that be tough a little bit. So Mama G's a captain now. She's a captain on Rikers Island.

50:11Lieutenant, she's big now. She was a CO at the time. There was rumors of her being Crip. And I was in a Crip house. Boy, child, it was a different time. Playboy was there, a different time. And she said, listen, my boy, you just need to go out this cell and do what you did before. Keep doing it and keep doing it. Don't worry. You got my support. Meaning, keep going out there and making it clear you're not a pussy. Keep fighting. And if I get beat up, it is what it is. I'm coming back. Coming back. That's how you get the respect, right? That's how you get the respect. So I went out my cell. Either way, I was going to do it anyway.

50:47I didn't need her to tell me that. Right. And my ass jumped me. One dude that jumped me was actually my next door neighbor. I knew because when he went to his cell, he looked at me and grilled me and started laughing. Yes. Wow. So you're in there, you're young as fuck, you're just realizing these are some of the most cutthroat assholes ever. Ever. Mind you, now mind you, with the Crips, come to find out, they're more lenient. Even though you hear all this crazy shit, right? They were more lenient. So let me finish. So I come out my cell and I started getting on again. I get it on with a dude named Cereal.

51:22That was for my spot because that CEO set it up with like, All right, you jumped in four times already. He needs a chair. I like him. She set the tone for a one-on-one fight finally for me. We go in the corner. I'm like, what up, bitch? Suck my dick, faggot. I spit a nigga face all out. We start getting it. Boom, boom, boom, boom. I got the best of him. I didn't take his chair. I earned the chair. So now I'm not sitting on dick no more. in other words that's what they call you you sitting on iron dick if you sit on that fucking thing now mind you the first time I sat on it once I found out they called that chair dick I didn't sit on it no more because of the no homo shit these dudes nowadays you can't say I want a fucking hot dog your city created this for the record this epidemic that's my city that's my city Yo, now is no diddy, gang.

52:25No diddy. We went from no homo, which is kind of in your face, to pause, and you know, Ayo. No freaky. Oh, yeah. No diddy, no freaky, and Ayo. Ayo is the most subtle one. It's like you're gay as fuck without me saying it. I like Ayo better. Ayo is subtle, yeah. You can say it around normal people. Ayo. Everybody starts looking at each other. It's kind of funny. You can say it around normal people, and they're going to get what you mean, but it doesn't come off like you're this homophobic monster. Also, let's just acknowledge that the white person version of this is that's what she said. Yeah. That's what she said.

52:58And so I didn't want to sit on dick. That's what she said. Boom. That's the white guy version. Yeah, we used that too. That's what she said. We used it too all the fucking time. Yeah, yeah. That was a great one. All right. So then you start to feel like they're kind of fucking you even though you're young. They're starting to embrace you. Like, damn, you got the warrior spirit. All right. We got to fuck with you. So that happened and it was a king dude at the time. So long story short, after I was in that crib for a while, something really, really crazy happens where, you know, they catch a body there.

53:29So they separate all of us, right? Moving forward, they put me in one up and north. Mind you, I got to escape, so I have to go to cribs, houses, areas where there's police escort. I can't get a pass and say, here, go to the clinic. You can go. Right. So I have to go to high class. Those high classification cribs, they're all bad. Every Crib in Rikazan is bad, but this is even worse. This is where the toughest of the toughest is. They sent me to some shit called One Upper North Side, Captain Restrict. The Bloods gave me a worse time in the Crips. Really? So now you got to go through this whole thing again?

54:02All over. But I'm not sitting on Iron Thick this time. Now I'm going in there, walking in there, watching me. Suzy, where the fuck you going? Who you? Boop, boop, boop, boop. First nigga to run his mouth. It ain't me. Who you talking to? Ain't no more talking no more. I know how to move now. so I got jumped like seven eight times in that crib you know every day I hit one of the big homies nah niggas gonna drill you every day now he ain't lying every day the motherfuckers fuck me up wow they fuck me up too wait but like so they have to go crazy hard on you for being a king nah nah nah when I went in the crib and went up on the north side the dude whose crib it was he was the one that came up to me what the fuck you doing try to show his strongness and his machismo-ness and I popped on him.

54:53To this day, I never got the chance to get a one-on-one fight with him so I don't know if I would have really won that. But all his little minions once again jumped me. So okay, you do how many years during that initial bid because then you get out and then you catch a way longer? So that bid right there was part of the escape. I did four. Okay. I went home. I did like three and a half though. Close to four. I went home and then my cousin knocked the dude out, robbed him. I came out the store told me that the dude touched his girl's ass. So I'm thinking whatever the fuck I think. Now, let me rephrase it short.

55:24He knocks my cousin out. So I just don't know what's going on. I knock him out. When my cousin gets consciousness, hits him again, boom, and robs him. The next day, police are in my crib in Staten Island. Mind you, that happened in Brooklyn. I'm living in Staten Island, my uncle, my cousin ratted. Faggot ass nigga. At that time, I don't think nothing of it. but I catch on. You on parole. This happened past your curfew. 90 days past, you ain't locked up and then what happened to your warrant? I seen you want it when I went to the precinct, bro. Once you want it, you got to get that clear by a judge.

55:58I don't give a fuck who you are. So he told about something else and I'm not stupid. You know, then the truth comes out and it is what it is. I end up coming home and being him. Then I go back for drugs and then I do eight years and stand out for selling drugs. So what level of drug operation are we talking? So, fentanyl starts getting big around that time. 2016, you hear about it, but you don't believe that it's in your work. The first person I knew died of fentanyl was 2017, and that's when it's like, oh, f*****g, I can't just do pills anymore. At that time, Zans and Perks and s**t felt like a game.

56:31It was nothing. Let me tell you something, man. Whoever created fentanyl, I pray that b*****g ever exists ever again. That fentanyl drug is the worst thing that's happened to the United States of America, period. There's more deaths on fentanyl overdosing. So now fast forward, right? It makes the 80s look so quaint. People just doing crack. Even dope was safer in the 80s. You go to bed. Yeah, right. That's a different level. Right. So now, mind you, right? I see one of my code D's. Well, he's not my code D, but I see one of the dudes I was selling twerk to, drugs to. He starts using his girl's grandmother's fentanyl patches, putting it in the microwave and scraping it, putting fentanyl on it.

57:10I cut him off for that. Wow. You understand what I'm saying? See, my dope didn't have fentanyl, it had ketamine, which is a sex drug. Right, a lot of people are big fans of that out here. New York too, people do ketamine a lot? I used to like to whip them with my dope because if the dope was too powerful, I used to ketamine to keep them up. Wow, okay. It does it like a good, it keeps it balanced. So my dog food didn't have ketamine. That dude that I'm telling you about, he got four years of life, by the way. He got 40 years of life for that. But when I was in jail for that, doing eight years for the dope, I used to be like, yo, I ain't forced nobody to do no drugs.

57:42I'm not guilty like that for eight years. You got me on seven direct sales. I'm the ring leader. You saw it all over Google. David Ruiz, look me up, right? And I'm like, yo, bro. Then six years passed by. Me and Joe, I said, you know what? I went to the People's Magazine. I seen three, four pages of deaths. Dope, man. Dope. Fentanyl, man. And I said, father, I got the money. That's in the name of Jesus, man. I know I don't have the answers to everything, but forgive me for this one. for this one forgive me Lord then he let me read a book by John Burke called Imagine Heaven and that's why I called the Holy Spirit in prison to say I don't want to be nothing no more I don't want to do this I don't want to do that so when Hocus did the drop your flag movement so wait what year was that when you realized like I don't want to be a part of this shit anymore?

58:292022 right before my mother died my mother died already actually and was that part of it? that's definitely part of it because my mother was like yo just promise me one thing man you be there by your kids man. I got five boys, you know. Wow, okay. No girls, though. She was like, yo, just make sure, you know. You got a whole basketball team. Yeah, the first three, I don't have a relationship with them, because you know, the mom at the time, they push it in the house. You know, I won the case in court, though, but... How old are they now? One is about to be 16, August 27th. I have an 11, 10-year-old.

58:59I have a nine, who is my son to another woman. And I have a newborn. Wow. So it was Michael, Ethan, Julius, John, and Josiah. All boys, man. All men that I have to make sure my words come out clearly on this camera. That's why I wanted to apologize to the other Latin Kings, the KMC's, because that's serious, bro. I could go to go performing. Them dudes could just execute me like Charlie Sheen. I'm not invincible, bro. I'm not. God, I can't beat everybody, Adam. But I just want my kids to know that there's positivity in their father. And I'm pushing that. That's that. I'm through music. I'm hot.

59:38when it come to music, I doubt you heard a good hot New York rapper like the way you just heard in here. No, you definitely got emotion right now. So, okay. You decide that you want to be done with it, but you can't really say that while you're in prison? Or can you? So, I kind of did say it in prison. It was when I came home and my man got murdered that I ended up kind of picking it back up. That's the truth. So, I came home and I told the bro, salute me or shoot me. So, all of this politics with this PCIPC, there was 15 Latin Kings when I came out of prison. I told them, salute me or shoot me.

1:00:12They all saluted me. When you go like this, you hit your chest two times, you go like that to another king, you look in your eyes, that shows your readiness and willingness to die for your brothers and sisters and a half too. It's in the lessons. So when they did that to me, they didn't mean it. It's obvious, right? When I was in prison, they all slandered my name. They all spoke about me. But when it was time to stand up for the nation, I did it. I went in prison with you. I don't care if you was a regular Puerto Rican dude and you wasn't gangbanging. If somebody jumped you with two black dudes, three black dudes, I want to jump in with you.

1:00:44Because when I cry, I'm representing my people Latino. I wasn't with the oppression. You see the Bloods in New York? They started because the Latin Kings was oppressing the blacks, right? Then they became the oppressors. You get it? So all of that oppression, all that racist shit, it builds other movements. This is where the Bloods was created in New York, because of racism. Right. You know, so that's another thing. I didn't want to worship two masters, so I wanted to leave anyways. But when Hocus did the Drop Your Flag Challenge... And that's when you were out. That's when I was out. Now, would you say I supported that man by dropping my flag?

1:01:16Oh, you did, right? You were one of the most well-known people who participated, right? Right. And then I went and continued promoting positivity. That's why I be telling Hocus, man, because people think that I don't support Hocus. I supported him more than anybody because my life was in danger. And yet, instead of being a gangster with it, and just valeting every land king that comes at me, I ask people if you could say something positive to the youth, what would it be? I would love to get you to say that too, but you know, I love to get everybody, especially people with a name. Because kids look up to them, and no matter what you want in your life, at least your mom, at least somebody heard you say something positive.

1:01:51You know, and I tell people that, man. I care if you gang bang, you promote that shit. Would you say that the drop your flag challenge, which for the people who don't know, basically Hocus for a fifth, who we talked about earlier, he basically decided to try to create kind of like an Instagram format or a hashtag so that people could speak honestly and kind of encourage dudes to leave the gang life behind. And in particular, you know, he's a New Yorker, so it's mostly New Yorkers taking part in this. Would you say that the reaction from the public or the streets was positive or was it not? It was both, but Hocus' mind state really is...

1:02:27Let me see if I can get Hocus on the phone real quick. Oh, shit. Let me see if I can do that. Yeah, and did you inspire the challenge? Like, did you dropping your flag kind of predate the hashtag? Kind of, yeah, because, you know, when I participated in the Drop Your Flag Challenge, it was more so how I felt about what these Latin Kings are doing and how they're not supporting their people, how they don't support the bros that go in there, try to fuck your bitch when you go to jail, and try to do all this corny shit. So when I dropped my flag, it was literally to promote positivity. And then Shot Caller Snook is another name I don't like to bring up because I don't really like to deal with this dude.

1:03:13But he put me on the hocus. When I seen that, I said it was an important movement. It was really an important movement for me to drop my flag with hocus. And like I said, hocus is my brother and it's all love, man. But his movement is important. So for me and him to go through something, it hurted the whole social media because you know we need each other so yeah I mean what up? that's OG Tone right there what's going on? how you living G? don't mind my look I just came from the gym I was gonna say you trying to lose some weight or something? you trying to sweat it out? yeah I got sciatica bro so I'm trying to get back my whole right side is kind of weak so I'm trying to get back but you know I'm a gym rat add hocus to the call I'll hocus to the core real quick.

1:04:00He's asking you to add hocus to the car. Alright, hold on, hold on. Now you could be like, yo, he's letting you know it's all love, man. This is part of dead in the beef with me and hocus too right here. Oh yeah? By the way. Yeah? Is that on and popping? I didn't know. Yeah, kind of. It's on and popping, kind of. We ain't 100, but like I said, I won't shit on him. You ain't hear me this whole interview shit on this man. Right. And I never shit on hocus, you know? Hold on Hold on for a minute Cause Hocus got two numbers And The number that's I gotta get to his other number How the fuck do I do that shit Just get it together And call me back I'll be here waiting for you And Hocus to tap in I'll call you right back Alright brother But yo I think part of the The controversy with that Or whatever Was that The idea of like Dropping your flag And no longer being from Your hood or your gang Or whatever I feel like Culturally in New York maybe that made more sense than people in LA or maybe some other cities were able to comprehend it because I feel like there's a sense in LA where it's like you can change your life you can stop gangbanging you can stop shooting people but the idea of saying I'm not from rolling 60s anymore in LA people have a hard time comprehending that that could mean anything other than I told or I got put off or whatever.

1:05:26Like they take it as a unanimously negative thing, which I feel like culturally that's different in New York because maybe like people always say, like New Yorkers will always say about LA, like damn, really gangbanging when they're 55. I feel like to be from your hood or to be a gangbanger as you get older is like more normal in LA. LA does not have an identity crisis, Adam. Get it? A lay knows who they are. They don't try to be the flyest niggas on the block. They don't run around like a white girl behind a Harley, bro. They're not flashy. You understand that? That's interesting. So when you see the culture in New York, everybody's a follower.

1:06:10They follow trends. They follow laughs. They follow the coolest, toughest niggas the way he bop. They like the, yo, it's poppin', nigga. They like that energy. Negative. You got the positive people in New York, man. You know, the working people. There's great people in New York. I'm not going to say my city's one of the greatest cities in the world, but the hood part of it. So this is what I say. I got 10 fingers here, right? 10. You take this pinky nail out, would you care if you lose a pinky nail? I could get over it, but it would be tough, yeah. But you get over it, right? Yeah. That's hood, niggas.

1:06:46I still got 10 fingers. Right. I still got 10 fingers, Adam. what I lose a pink and nail still got my 10 fingers man right so you know that pink and nail represents the people trolling me oh your song is dirt you f***ed you took my dick oh you faggot those are the people that don't like me because I went against what's right I dropped my flag when you drop your flag man you gonna have enemies or you gonna have people talking at the very least did you feel like it was people in your age bracket hating or was it the YNs? Both. It's sad to see a dude my age talking stupidity. It's sad to see a dude my age going like this and going like that.

1:07:32It's just sad to see it. To be so committed to the gang life that to see someone changing their life, you would take that as a threat to your life. There's something kind of sad about that. If you want to live that life, I get it. But how could you not look at me trying to change my life and respect it? Exactly my point. And, you know, the contrary of it, just to be completely honest, they did respect it, in a sense. Okay. Probably a lot did. A lot did. They respected it, but you could tell the hate was there. And the minute me and Hocus came at it, you know, them dudes came right back out. Oh, he's a fucking this, this, that, he's this, that, that, that, that, that.

1:08:12Instead of, let me not get involved with two men's disputes, no matter what they say, because there's three sides to every story. Right. right your side my side and you shade again the truth oh here we go he called have you seen it yeah i think he had the other person he had a three-way going on was it what's up it was two different notifications yeah i think one was what's up

1:08:45be on point for that pick it up please so let me see call that pick up now yo man i don't i don't know what one man can do to try to change the world or try to change his world or his city but my city is my city i like the positivity part yo he don't want to get on no no he doing an interview right now ah he doing an interview right now I'm doing an interview right now bro's making moves tell him for two seconds and say something pause the interview I'm live on camera this is Adam 22 this is not this is not what you would call it what was the lowest I don't know this is not a don't be disordered right Regardless of, you know, he said, once a man tell me what he's doing, I don't go back and try to change nobody's mind, right?

1:09:42But I'm here to vouch for what you're doing and where we at and how we moving. And I could definitely speak on Hoke's behalf, along with my own to Adam. You know, whatever he needs to hear to clear it up, I'm also here for that. That's why I'm picking up my phone. So I told Adam, I told Adam, Hocus is my brother. Adam will tell you I said nothing bad about the man, right? Facts. And I'm here, on the contrary, continuing what we spoke about, the piece. And you know like I know that me and Hocus is, we working on all his situation. That's all I can say. Am I correct? And that's correct. That's 1 ,000 % correct.

1:10:28But let me, with Adam, let me say something. What up? Hey, Adam, listen. Sure. Listen, look, you're doing your thing, bro, and I'm glad you got a platform that gives people a chance to express themselves. I know you don't know me, but I'm going to say this, right? And I'm not directing this towards you. I know, like, a lot of things is controversial and it helps to generate revenue or whatever we do as a business and all that, right? But I've been around doing a lot of things for a long time. i've been dealing with brothers like trust and focus and just certain people right and for me i'm always about trying to move forward like i'm about solving problems not being right and who's wrong i i'm and i just want you to know like as far as what i'm trying to do with trust i'm trying to clean up the way he used to think i'm trying to help him be a better i'm trying to help him be a better man i understand that we from the hood we got we can say what we got to say and it goes viral and all that i don't get into that you know why i'm from the i back in my in the 80s and the 90s i caused a lot of destruction i'm about construction so for me right i look at it as now instead of us poisoning the body with drugs the phone is poisoning the mind and i'm not saying that's you but what i am saying is that we have to learn how to start looking positively how to deal with them and not just react and be reactive because it doesn't sound like it works for me nah facts yeah i'm i'm in agreement with you for sure we gotta we gotta teach these kids how to handle their problems more maturely yes like you know what i'm saying like um look look I'm not here to, I'm not like no trying to act like I'm here to save the hood and all that, right?

1:12:22But I got a good relationship with a lot of people in the hood from states and gangs and whatever, right? And they know me. And my character is impeccable in the streets. The music industry, that could be something different. But as far as the streets and how I move, my whole thing is when I came home from prison in 1993, three, I was all about trying to make sure people don't go through what I went through. So we all going to make mistakes. We all going to do dumb shit. We all going to be whatever. But I think that Trash Moolah is a super duper talented person and I want to see him flourish. And I also want to make this about us learning how to be able to coexist without us not having to coexist even though we got right and wrongs going on.

1:13:14For sure. And a lot of times, there's no adult in the room. Like a brother like him and no disrespect to him. There's an old saying, if you don't know nothing, you can't do nothing. Once you know better, you're supposed to do better. So what I would like to do is be a person that's teaching the brothers in the streets who point guns at each other. I want to teach them how to do better. If it work, it work. But I don't tell nobody what to do with their life. If you want to be negative, I just can't be around you. if you want to be positive, I'm here to help you. I think I'm resourceful. And I think that at the end of the day, yes, negative creates a lot of content, but I think we also can create content on trying to be positive as well.

1:13:56Facts. I appreciate that, man. Thank you for those words. Yeah, so Trump, listen to me, bro. You do your interview, and I'm nice meeting you, Adam. You too, man. And I speak for him. I speak on behalf of myself and Hocus. Hey, appreciate it, man. All right, so Hocus, I kept it growing, man. All right, love. All right, y 'all. All right. Okay, one thing I just wanted to ask about, though, is did you actually go into PC while you were in prison? Like, was that part of your fallout with the Latin Kings? So, with the PC situation, it was a riot that went on and five points. so but before the riot I was keep locked so the word keep locked is exactly what it sounds like keep his ass locked in okay alright so I was walking to go eat dinner I was with a blood dude while I'm walking with him two crypt dudes go to jump him now the only reason I got involved because I was walking with the guy and he was from Staten Island so when I jumped in I got in trouble they don't care whoever in prison let's say I punch her let's say she was a he though I'll punch him right in the face in prison and the police can see me punching him we both gonna get a ticket and we both gonna get key blocked they don't care right or wrong they don't know what you did to get punched in the face it's just too difficult for them to try to address who's in the right it's just crazy it makes no sense but I guess I get it so now you have the aggressor gets more time obviously you guys recorded?

1:15:35What? What do you mean? Do they record you? In prison, everything's camera. You see them cameras on the wall? They all over. Just like that. So now, mind you, when that happened, I was keep locked. So the Kings get into a riot, right? There was, let's say, there was 20 phones in his yard in five points. The police added 10 more because they needed more phones, right? During that time, the Bloods want three, four phones. The Kings want that. Now, mind you, the Kings, it was only like seven of us. We was good with rocking with one phone. They wanted a whole nother phone. I said, I'm gonna let them dudes do what they want with the f***ing phones.

1:16:08Let them niggas do this. Now mind you, I'm hearing the news because I'm keep-locking. So my bunkies coming back to the cell telling me all the politics. I can't go to a wreck with these guys. I'm in trouble already for this fight with the Bloods and the Crips. Because I was walking with the guy. So a riot happens over the phones. Long story short. Rico love it. Go out. Boom, bomb, boom, bomb. Dudes get cut from Buffalo, New York. It's beef shit, right? So now the kings and the bloods got to go at it. The bloods demolish the kings. I was in myself for the whole thing. The police said, you can't go to population.

1:16:43You missed the whole wave. But we know you're king. Ruiz, you got to go to IPC. If we let you out, the bloods are going to get at you. We got to send you to another jail. Is that my fault? So you never made any kind of intent to be in there? No, they're going to throw that out there. But okay, is that just another example of basically like dudes who are from the street life being willing to take anything and use it against you to smear your character? To smear my character. Now I'm going to show you the paperwork right now. I want you to read it on camera and say what the fuck you see. What you see, right?

1:17:17And this is the IPC paperwork.

1:17:23What does your hand say? Gods. The left one says gods. What? Your fingers. Oh yeah, God's good. Okay, nice. Oh man, got that. I got all this done in jail. All of this. Let me see what I find over here. My other phone was charging over there. Somebody had it. But I'll get it right now. You know what's crazy? I'm going to show you these messages. You're going to laugh. You know who 050 the movement is, right? China, bro? Alright. With the cowboy hat? Yeah, I'm going to go to his... I'm going to go to his shit, right? Put it in the comment section. Now, mind you, I don't care whoever his is. You know why?

1:18:05I fuck with people who nobody fucks with. You know why? Because a lot of dudes in New York don't like you, right? They don't like that I'm doing this interview. For real? Oh, well. Now, guess what, right? I'm going to tell you something. I was on the block with Bobby Schmurder. We had 200 crips around us. Ain't nobody doing nothing but love. Like, come on. Now, listen, right? When you think about this shit, right? they just meat riders. So at that time, I guess Hokies didn't like you, right? Oh, okay. At that time? So at that time, you wasn't liked. Okay. I wasn't even thinking about that. I'm not going to go and not like a dude because you don't like a dude.

1:18:42Now look, this is China Brim, right? He's over here saying, yo, look at this clown. Look at this. He's like, right here, same paperwork. It says, obviously, these niggas think I'm going to wrap off that. that paperwork I sent my man before I got, before he got bodied. Didn't I tell you I sent this paperwork to my man before he got murdered? Now when you look at this paperwork, call him back over here. You want to sit back? You heard it, Jazz? Yeah, I heard you. It says, it was kind of hard to blur, but if you look, it says involuntary protective custody. It does say that. That is true. So now, and it says five points, and we're looking, we could darken it up.

1:19:19We could take that. I sent it to you. You could have your guys analyze it. Yeah, forensic unit. Forensic unit, right? But the thing is, what does that say right there? Five points, right? Yes. That was the prison. Okay. That I was in. And it says right here, involuntary. Involuntary means I didn't do it. Now, it's not my fault these in New York don't know how to read and write. The kings. You know what the word involuntary means. You know I didn't put myself there. Yeah. So when they hear that, it's like, yo, bro, I just showed you the paperwork. These that I signed in the PC, bro. Wow. They thought I signed in the PC.

1:19:56And they ran with that and had everybody mind manipulated because then by the time they dropped this paperwork, everybody already fake was already talking shit about me. And then when I posted it, shut them niggas up. And they don't want to take it back though? They're not men enough like me. See how I apologize to the whole nation? They're not men enough like me to do that. When I was wrong, I'm wrong. Right. Because I believe that being able to correct your errors or to apologize or to say that you were wrong about something i had the information wrong on that like that should be that should be looked at in the culture as the ultimate sign that you're a real person right and instead it's treated as if it's like almost some sort of hypocrisy right like you're a bitch yeah like you're the only reason where you could possibly be doing this but then our culture actually like rewards people who have a stance and won't change it no matter what no matter how much information is coming in they're just they're not going to change their opinion somehow that is looked at as courageous.

1:20:53Right. As f***ing. When it's lying and it's dishonesty and it's just terrible. Yo, Adam, the same thing you just said, right? So let's say you ask me for a bag of chips in prison, right? Right. Bag of chips. Ask me for a bag of chips. Let me get a bag of chips. Yo, can I have a bag of chips? Yo, I'm gonna give you two. I'm gonna give you two back. I'm gonna give you one. Give me two back at the store. You taking it? I'm not taking nothing from nobody in prison. Hold on, but you starving. I'm giving you one bag. I'm giving you one bag of chips. I want two back. So that's the game, right? You're not taking nothing, but the game is this, right?

1:21:23So this brother's not doing that. Because you want to get in the debt. He's going to say, fuck it out, yeah. But you hungry and storing in another week and a half. Yo, let me get a bag of chips, two soups, and a fish steak, all right? All right, here you go. One for two on everything. So you got two soups, that's three back or four. Two for three, one for two. So mind you, when I ask for a bag of chips, he's going to give me two back. But then there goes a guy like him. He said, yo, here, just give me one back at the store. Why are more men inclined to give that dude his two bags of chips and then play with this guy who said give you one back back?

1:21:57Shouldn't you make sure he gets his money first and then this other guy at least gets one black out you with the other one another time? No, dudes treat the guys who are bad to them better than the dudes who are good to them. But that's like the credit card companies would rather have you, they would rather have a customer not pay off their balance because they want to get the interest. A good customer who's consistently paying off their balance is like almost useless to them. To them. Besides the money that they could invest. The world is opposite, bro. Yeah. This shit don't make no sense, man.

1:22:27If it don't make no sense, it don't make no dollars. I don't have to keep explaining myself to people, but the more I do, the more I give people clout. Like right now, you can post this video up and whatever you write and say, yo, trust is official. Yeah, one for two. One for two. You're going to say trust is official. Oh, you're going to say I'm not. Now that's on you. But whatever you say, since you have more followers and viewers than me, they're going to rock with that. Man, sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes. But also, it's like, there's a thing that happens that the bigger you get, the more that people are kind of eager to shit on you.

1:23:04How's that taste? Fire. Is it good? Okay. Because you know Chapler Ross off YouTube? He came through with a huge palette of sodas to give us. And a lot of them were the weirdest flavors I ever had. I'm never had this flavor. We both looked at each other like, is it bad? That guy's like, whatever. Polar orange vanilla seltzer. That's fire. I tried a zero calorie Dr. Pepper blackberry. Fire. Blackberry flavored Dr. Pepper. I'm going to say no. Yeah, I'll probably never try that again. Oh, you a zero sugar type of dude? It just was in the fridge. So I'm like, oh, I guess I'll try this. And it was, yeah.

1:23:40I was just going to drink Adam Osso Jack and I was trying to. Nah, all I really drink is like zero sugar. Yeah, I was surprised because a lot of the energy drinks that are zero sugar, like the Celsius and the Red Bull and whatever, it tastes pretty good. But then the diet, Dr. Pepper tasted terrible. You see me meeting you now and seeing you on camera is two different things, right? You see me on camera, you see me on camera and you see me now, it's like you get to know a person. Exactly. Why wouldn't people want to get to know me before they talk shit? Right. That's the shit that conflicts me sometimes.

1:24:13Especially the content creators, though. It's just more valuable to take a hard stance on something. It's more valuable to hate on someone than to be cool with them because there's not a lot of content to be made off of, like, he's a good guy. But there's infinite content to be made out of. He's a piece of shit. Here's my 10th YouTube video of the week telling you why. So I feel like that's why you see so many people gravitate towards having a negative outlook on things because it's more profitable. It's more controversial. Can I share a quote with y 'all real quick? Sure. Negativity is a thief that steals happiness.

1:24:48See, a lot of people, and Adam, you know this because you're from the Bean, right? You're from Boston? Well, New Hampshire, but yeah. Well, New England. So you know the vibes. Negativity is like, I tell people in New England and Boston, if you tell somebody good morning, they're going to probably be offended by it because people are so miserable. That is normal. I grew up in Atlanta, Florida. I come from like sunlight And you know Just major cities So when I go back to New England For high school People They hate me Because I'm so positive Like I'm coming in You have a good life Yeah I'm really Feel that as weakness Yeah and everybody like Bro why are you coming In the school Talking about good morning Like it's like It's weird And that's why I say though Like y 'all earlier Was I was just sitting back Listening And you were saying Something about like You know just Everybody being from Where they're from And it's different your mind really can only grow so so big as like where you are you know in my opinion that's why I like LA because LA and California is like the size of a country right Boston is literally I tell people like it's a little nugget yeah it's weird bro it's like Hollywood is the size of Boston I never knew that I never been to Boston he told me Boston is like the true East I told him I told him Boston people and New York people don't get along well but it's kind of weird though because Boston is like Boston proper is hella small but then you got all these like basically equivalent of like these boroughs that are all around it that have like a lot more space but also like a lot of the street shit really is more in these outer areas rather than like Boston central.

1:26:20Yeah like I'm from I'm from a city called like I was born in New Befford. Yeah. New Befford at one point was the most dangerous city in America because it's so small and it's just a bunch of people tweaking and it used to be the richest city in the world. New England is next to Boston? New England is Maine, New Hampshire, sure vermont and massachusetts so it's like all of the sort of northeast but uh yeah the worst beating i've ever probably seen in my whole life was uh in brockton brockton yeah brockton i saw a club promoter basically like pulled a gun on a dude at a hardcore show but this dude is basically in the equivalent of like the craziest gang in the hardcore scene or whatever they were just beating up or whatever the the club owner is like this italian dude who thinks he's on some hot shit he pulls a gun on the dude and tells him hey this is my venue if you around i'm gonna fucking kill you i didn't know that i'm just standing there on the side of the street all of a sudden i see this big ass dude come up with a hammer to the club owner bah bah he's smashing this dude's head in his homie tries to break it up he gets destroyed with the hammer too his girl tries to break it up she gets her whole face smashed in with a hammer ambulance came, I honestly have no idea what happened to that guy, but I was like 19.

1:27:32I ain't never seen nothing like that. I don't think he died, but I do think he for sure was probably never the same based on, like, I don't know how you could hit somebody with a hammer that many times and not have him die, you know? And also, he did that to a dude that he knew had a gun on him. And he didn't give a fuck. Yeah, that was a tough mo**. That was a weird, yeah. That was a weird. Yo, I did not know you was from Boston, bro. Or New England area. Like, I did not know that. That's crazy. It's a good place. But, um... That's crazy. Okay, so now you are out, you're focused... Like, what is life now?

1:28:05Like, are you focused on the positivity and the good stuff, the content, the... So now, shout out to Funkmaster Flex, man. And yet, where does that relationship come from? Because for people who don't know, Funkmaster Flex, the most omnipresent person on New York radio over 40 years? It's been forever. Oh, he's been great to me, man. So it happened with me, I dropped the track, and big on social media, me and Hocus collaborating. We've been, Hocus is a part of this too. And, but the song speaks for itself. If you got gas, it's gonna light on fire when you put a match to it, right? I had gas, Flex put a match to it.

1:28:50Hocus for a fifth sent the track to Spazzo. In the midst of Spazzo having the track, Hocus calls me, yo, Spazzo's gonna spin it. I'm like, yeah. But before that, before Hocus even called me saying that, I made a post on social media, and I'm sick, they saying Funk Flex don't support Puerto Rican, and I hear all this crazy shit, right? All this shit that people would say to go against Flex. I don't go against people, I go against people, right? I have a gift for that. So I say, yo, I say if on Flex don't support Latinos, I highly dispute that. 1994, look what he asked. Just ask Frankie Cutlass what he did for him.

1:29:27I say, everybody tag Flex, man. Spin my shit. Everybody need more to tag Flex. Flex said, your marketing skills is crazy, Moolah. Moolah, oh my God, New York is sharing. And mind you, I used to interpret that when I was a kid in jail, Rikers Island, when I made it. I started it off in Rikers. Attica, put in work. oh my god ladies and gentlemen when y 'all come outside make sure y 'all have your flying clothes on this is bringing new york back we all said i thought i was like is the bombs yeah new york knows about the bombs yeah i dropped bombs on myself and you hear dudes in jail yo charge that's exactly what's gonna happen yo bro everything i did in my life i manifested it i spoke it into existence we here today no that's crazy facts who knows maybe this interview would get me lit with a Cali dude.

1:30:17Maybe the game would do a track with me. Who knows? There we go. Who knows? We got connections with the game. Who do you know? Dwayne The Rock. You ever heard of him? Dwayne The Rock Johnson? No. Ramos. Ramos. People know who he is in the industry. That's his cousin. His blood cousin. Now, mind you, he has a lot of connects in Cali, but he's from YesNicca Awards. came out here 30 years ago. Shout out to Dwayne the Rock, man. He's very inspirational to me. He actually flew me out here to get away from the bullshit. Really? He said, get the fuck over here. God is telling me to tell you that if you don't stop, you don't have too much time on Earth.

1:31:02Oh. Damn. Wait, so you get out in 2024 and do you go back to your old neighborhood or are you immediately like... I go right to New York. Okay. But were you already kind of making plans like, I don't want to be here in the long run? Well, I didn't want to be in the hood, but what happened was I'm with a woman, shout out to my girl Stephanie. How you doing, mommy? I love you right now, boom. I was my bunkies cousin. I didn't have nobody in prison. My baby mom left me for dead, couldn't do eight years. All this shit happened and going through court battles with my children, I prayed for somebody.

1:31:37And in 2022, God sent her to me. you know so that was like a big sign right there and then she leaves Harlem cause she said Drew Hamilton saying it's not a good neighborhood for me to come home to so she got a transfer from housing and we moved to Lowy Eastside so when I came out of jail she was only there a week when I came home so now you with the art school kids Lowy Eastside I mean what's Truss Moolah doing on the Lowy Eastside are you just chilling like nobody fucking cares about your politics nobody gives a fuck That's what's so crazy about New York is that you could be realistically like, you know, like eight miles away and it's like a totally different place.

1:32:17I didn't drop my flag there yet, but they knew politics about the whole PC suspicion and all this other shit. Remember I came home, I told you I went to the Lion King meeting, told them to shoot me, shoot me. September 21st, 2022, I get a phone call saying they just murdered my friend D.L. Oh, shit. Now my friend D.L. was beefing with another Bronx dude, I don't want to say no names, long story short, they go to California, I mean Chicago, excuse me, to go chase after each other. One of them don't make it back home, which is my right-hand man's. And he actually became the anchor of the Latin Kings.

1:32:52King Tone himself gave him that position. So from King Blood and went to King Tone. That dude King Tone I was talking to is like a super legendary Latin King? He was the one that did the HBO documentary, they were trying to say he's a rat because a black rose where you're not supposed to talk about anything you hear or see. And a Latin King meeting is a black rose. Okay. And he talked about it and they were hitting him for it? Cameras, right? Okay. The speaking about shit, it was on camera in the meeting, and he did time for it. King Tone did time. I never looked at King Tone in a bad way. I actually looked up.

1:33:22To this day, I respect King Tone. Yeah. Right? And so did DL. Right? Tone is a dude that he came in the game. He tried to promote positivity for the Latinos and bring everybody together and got wrapped up because Latin Kings is a gang. no matter what, this is why Hocus is trying to tell people that you could do as much positive as you can. You got to do one more thing that Rico is coming for y 'all. It came for Tone. He comes home from doing his time, my bro DL, being who he is, toughen him up. Toughest nigga I've ever met in my life. And he backed Tone up. And Tone gave him his blessings and blessed him to be the Inca of New York.

1:33:59I mean, one thing you got to say about gang culture is that it is so alluring to so many people despite the incredibly obvious signs that this is not necessarily something that's great to put your life into and like when i say that the first example that pops into my mind is uh rest in peace drago the ruler his brother ralphie the plugs good friend of mine at one point they both had cases and ralphie's case was for basically using a stolen credit card to go in neiman marcus and buy clothes and shit like that but then they put the gang enhancement on it and it's a totally different world a whole new charge that alone the fact that you could get gang enhancements put on your crimes and get way more time in prison should be enough for like anybody and to be fair ralphie is like not really like a gang member like that he's more just from a it's kind of complicated but like the fact but that says a lot you are not formally a blood or a crip you just have like what's basically a rap crew yeah and they'll still put the gang and gang on you that should be enough to tell everybody out there never say a goddamn word if you are rolling with a click if you really are rolling around with people you have you're from a hood you should never say it yo that just meant a lot coming from you yeah i mean just logically you should never say it because the cops can use it so well against you but then think about the allure of being in a gang is not just being in a gang it's being able to say you're in a gang and the respect that that the fact that you said that just now i want to say thank you.

1:35:26I appreciate it. You know why? Because they need to hear that from us. Dudes like us with a platform, we need to speak like that. So New York thought that Adam 22 was mocking Hocus with the whole thing. Yo, I should apologize for that though because I'm going to be real. I've seen not Hocus' video but I've seen somebody else's video and in that moment, I didn't know that it was like a thing. I didn't know that Hocus created it. I thought it was just some of them shit. and like I said before from an LA perspective it definitely came off different and I was just in a goofy mood and I'm like I'm gonna do a parody of this I should not have done that because knowing the context of it it's the exact thing that I would hope for society is for all these kids to stop gangbanging or at the very least for the culture of gangbanging to become dramatically less violent and prideful I don't know if you know this but this is one of the most important interviews I think we have done.

1:36:25Me sitting with you and you sitting with me because I was going to say that. Everybody thought Adam was mocking the whole thing, but in all reality, you hear Adam 22 today telling you guys. That's the most fearful shit. That alone will make me not want to be around no gangs. You can get three years for a robbery, but if you do it with a gang member, you get 20 years. That shit don't make no sense. Yeah. I'm good. I mean, shout out to law enforcement because they basically created a system where you're massively... Massively getting rid of... disincentivized to be saying you're from a gang. But here we all know people who, when you look at their Instagram bio, it says, I am from this gang, basically.

1:37:02Let me say something since you brought law enforcement up. Sure. Shout out to NYPD. I'm going to say it again. Shout out to NYPD. I'm going to say it one more time. Shout out to NYPD. I wouldn't be trust Moolah, or I wouldn't be as big as I am if I didn't have the support of NYPD.

1:37:21Support in what way? I simply asked him, if you could say something positive to the youth, what would it be? When I needed money for an event, they were the first ones to donate. A total of$1 ,500. I was able to buy a PlayStation 5 for the kids and give it out. Two times. That's dope. When I get into some bullshit, they'll, yo, cut it out, moolah, please, man. Like, I don't think you should be posting shit like that, moolah. You got a lot of people watching you, man. We're rooting for you. I may not be the most positive dude in the world, Adam, but I promote it nonetheless. I try. You seem pretty positive to me.

1:37:59To the whole world, not to the whole world but to other dudes going back and forth with this Latin King argument or hocus, it takes away from my character and it makes me look less presentable. It scares the labels away. Nobody wants to invest in somebody who thinks the Latin King's gonna kill them. Alright? So, if nobody's gonna invest in me, I'm gonna invest in myself. I'm not gonna give up. I got hit records. I'm a fucking hit maker. Is that where most of your time goes as opposed to like content and stuff? Is the music the focus now? Lately, I apologize that I haven't been pushing positivity like that.

1:38:31The only reason I haven't been pushing positivity like that is because I have to focus on my career. Hey, nobody could wake up in the morning and not everybody could wake up in the morning and say I got the best, the most greatest DJ in the world, right? Spinning me all over New York City and all over the world. I don't get opportunities like that. Yeah, that's not guys like me who did 16 and a half years, who was gang banging who yeah if I gotta leave the game to become successful see you guys later and that's not regular people outside New York don't even know that that is there's no radio DJ that could play your song that would have more of an effect in the whole country than Funk Flux playing a record in New York thank you even if he plays it once it's just there's nothing by the way he played it 28 times wow on Hot 9-7 I have the stats here that's sick and really bro you don't even honestly like that channel is a frequency.

1:39:22Like, we're talking science and we're talking, like, really being plugged in with, like, the higher power. Like, you're plugged in with a channel through Flex and he has that seat. So, like, irregardless of, like, whatever anybody says that's negative, it doesn't matter. Like, it's all love, but, like, where you at, though? It's true. Straight facts, right? But to me, though, it does matter. It does. You know why it matters? Why? And you right, though. Negativity is a thing that still happens. I'm inclined to hear why you think so. You are right, but I feel like other people's opinion matters because I do love people.

1:39:57If it wasn't for Ladd King, I wouldn't be who I am. It's easy to say you don't give a fuck what anybody thinks about you, but I think at the end of the day... You do. Yeah, we all... Maybe you don't care about the average YouTube commenter, but you definitely care about what a lot of people think. But Adam, an eagle doesn't fly with pigeons. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Like when you reach a level like spiritually and mentally, certain people are where they are because that's what they are. You ever read a thousand comments all bashing you? Have you ever read a thousand comments all bashing you?

1:40:27Yeah, because you got to have the gumption. You have to go through it to speak to God. You got to read a thousand negative comments in a row and then when you close your phone to still feel like the same person you were before that. Also like realistically, you probably don't have a reason to read a thousand comments. Easier said than done. No, I believe you. and because okay this is the thing is that drake is not drake and jay-z is not jay-z and 50 cent is not 50 cent without millions and millions and millions of people who think that they're dope yep and i mean shit look at gucci man i ain't never seen a fall from grace tick happen that fast in terms and and what happened he just did some shit that the people didn't like and they turned on real fast is it over i don't know it could maybe it could not be over but realistically like if a big if 50 % of your fan base decides that they think you're a bitch and they don't want to listen to your music anymore it's a death sentence for most people now granted Gucci you know he's been big for a long time it's kind of different but you know it's like with you know Jay-Z just if the people decide they don't want to buy his album he ain't really Jay-Z the same way he used to be Jay-Z right I mean that's like you know it's just what it is you as a celebrity are a celebrity because of the millions of people who give a fuck about you exactly and that's why interviews like this is important so you can get a lot get your point across.

1:41:41Or you could tell people how you feel. You could tell people like, yo, you know, I made a fucking mistake. Nobody's perfect. Nobody's perfect. I shouldn't have said that comment of Latin Kings being dope heads because instead of pointing the address on a specific kind, it's like I came at everybody from Cali to New York to this to that. Now when people are angry, bro, they say things they don't mean to. Those who don't accept my apology suck my dick. I don't care. Right? I can't please everybody. That's what I learned. and that's why I understand his comment too. But I can't please everybody. Nah, facts.

1:42:17Okay, so where do you feel like you're at in your life right now? What's the most important shit to you and what's the message that is most important for the people out there to know? The most important message for me to people to know is that the kingdom of God is at hand. So all the hood niggas out there, all the gangsters, everybody who think they want to be where the fuck they want to be, when God comes, all of this shit is over. Your pride stands for primary reason individuals die early. Your ego, you can throw that shit out the window. You can lie to me, but you cannot lie to God. All right?

1:42:48A coincidence is God's way to be anonymous. I am here for a reason. Adam 22 had me scheduled for another day, right? Some shit like 18, 19 or whatever. We were a little all over the place. My schedule's been kind of moving. Been kind of crazy, right? This week, yeah. But look, I'm in Cali. I didn't know I was going to have some way to go. I would have went to Adam 22, stood in the shelter, and went back home if I had to. I would have made this work regardless. But before I get to you, people get to me first from Cali. What's the coincidence of that? No, that's God's way to be anonymous. This interview may save my life.

1:43:20Really? That's deep. It might save my life. Because the best conversation I had in a minute. I'm going to lie. This is a good one. So, you know, I thank you, bro. I thank you for that, bro. And I thank you especially for clearing that up to New York. Because I like, I care what my people think. And I don't want them to think negative about Adam. Appreciate that. It happens, shit happens. And look, he just apologized. I apologize. Right. Get over it. If not, listen to this hit record and kick the fuck off. You don't want to listen to it, bye. For sure. Do you feel like, because I feel like New York has really seen the YouTuber, Instagram, real world of people talking about not just rap, but street shit kind of combining it all together.

1:44:04Do you feel like that's been like overall negative? or do you see that having like a corrosive effect on the culture? Can you repeat the question? Just everybody making YouTube videos, making Instagram videos, et cetera. Everybody who's, you know, maybe like a little bit older, used to be from a gang or used to be in the street life or whatever, they're all making content now. And a lot of times the content is kind of intentionally like flaring up tension. You know, like does it feel like that's kind of a bad thing overall for the culture? I'm going to say this. It's a bad thing. but I'm gonna say this right for sure it's good when it's good but when it's bad that one bad overrules all that good there's always somebody's gonna fuck that up yeah cause people will pay attention if they fuck that up and people wanna see the fuck they wanna talk shit about people oh you see that's the trust move I did if I do a positive video alright next if I say some crazy oh trust move I talking shit it gives a son to talk about it If we got 20 New York hip hop bloggers and they all pretty cool, they chill, they good.

1:45:08And then a new one comes on. Now we got 21. But this dude talking shit. He's saying this gang, this neighborhood, this rapper, et cetera. Guess who we were paying attention to? We're paying attention to this asshole. Number 21. It's just human nature, you know, and it's tough because then you get people who maybe like wouldn't do that. But now the incentives are for them to do that. So all of a sudden now it's like, OK, you got people that wouldn't even be sincere. Sincerely hating. And they hating because it's profitable. Yeah, but it's for no reason either. Because they're not even making money like that.

1:45:42I could make$4 ,000 a month on Facebook. I'd do it. If you could say something positive to you, if I stopped doing that to do my music, I'd lose money. There's no money in this music industry like that. Unless you hot. It's tough. So a dude like me, yeah, I'm kind of hot. But I didn't get no money off this shit, Adam. I'm losing money, bro. Because you don't understand? Instagram don't want to pay that algorithm. Because they got to pay that artist for that song that you fucking performing. Right. So what they do is either you're going to be organically pushed and get liked like that or not. So the social media shit is a fake world, bro.

1:46:18That shit is not real. The ones that are real is the ones that are keeping it real. I don't give a fuck, bro. Look, I'm fucking fat, Adam. Oh, yeah. Fat. That's cool, yeah. They kill they self because they fat. Really? You know how many people are not here right now because they kill they self because they so insecure. Who the fuck are they, y 'all? Wow. If you're suicidal, you feel like something's bothering you, give somebody a call, man. I tried to put my number on Instagram, but everybody started doing theft threats. You know what I'm saying? Hey, give somebody a fuck. Tell somebody you love them.

1:46:57Instead of saying, yo, that's an ugly bitch, try to get to know that person. the world is evil man it's coming god is coming and when he comes he's gonna come like a thief in the night so i don't worry about death i worry about the real death and that's not being right by god we all haven't saw a last breath to ask for forgiveness i wish i told my mother that before she passed away that's real rest in peace to all the moms out there man that's some serious Peace to all the mothers, man. I gotta do this before I leave. I look like you about to wrap this thing up, but... I gotta do this for all my guys.

1:47:35For K Slay one time. For everybody in jail one time. Listen to my words, because this is what happens in jail. Listen to what's going on. And then I also got a Jay-Z song, prior remix, that's on my page, go look at it. But I'm gonna do this one time for K Slay, all right? Because K Slay inspired me to wanna write and listen to music. And Riker's Island, he was a DJ K Slay. You ever heard of him, DJ K Slay? Oh yeah. drama king is in the building yeah yeah yeah for the record I was beating off to Buffy the body because of him yeah rest in peace yeah yeah me too tearing her shit up in my cell robbing all banks yeah you did top right I don't know you did some shit nah oh you just cash out yeah no criminal record just a bunch of poor little books and some hot black chicks ready man I've been breaking the law but I don't know they never got me yeah but alright so for the people People who want to stay locked in with what Trust Moolah got going on, tell them where to holler at you, where you be putting most of your time.

1:48:30So holler at me on Trust Moolah, right? Holler at me on YouTube, Trust Moolah on the run, everything Trust Moolah. This is for K Slate one time, man. I made this for K Slate. C95, the Horacus Island, wake up. Niggas be like, who that? Shoot that. Better move, strap. Lockdown, chili soups and juice packs. Rice bags, tuna steaks and two max. Commissary, lend one, get two back. Wanna fight? Go play the bathroom. Shh. Don't run out. Nigga, act cool. Big nigga. Acting like he Deebo. Fired on his dumb ass. He running to the COs. Oh. Hit the yard. We go back. We run that back. Niggas be like, who that?

1:49:09Shoot that. Better move, Strap. Lockdown. Chili soups and juice packs. Rice bags. Tuna steaks and two Macs. Commissary. Len Wong and two back. Wanna fight? Go play the bathroom. Shh. Don't run out. Nigga, act cool. Big nigga Acting like he deebo Fired on his dumb ass He running to the CO's Hit the yard Get some sets with him Sip the hooch with the squall Like a Mexican So sick Cuff the intake Spit fire Oh I'm spitting out a big blade That ain't room nigga Then you try to touch mine Steak these get done dirty I'm cover you when it's crunch time Lock in I don't lock in I be on the chill I'm mopping 125 I'm going shopping Cook that meal Let's get it popping That Mook there, he did his rhyming I get the bag, now need some boxes Nigga, why you talking and you ain't like that?

1:49:59I already f***ed a bitch three times How you wife that? I remembered Every night she smiled on how you like that She texting my phone on the dick for a nightcap Nigga, Adam22 You know what's going on, baby Trust Moolah I know y 'all want to tap in Appreciate you, dawg, for real Legendary, man Much love, dawg R.P.K. Slade Who hears it? Hey. Ah, PK Slate. Shout out to Pat Poole. Shout out to Raina Rock Hocus. Shout out to my wife. Shout out to everybody who supports me. Shout out to my cousin Anthony. Shout out to St. Laz. Gotta put that out there. New York. Gang shit. Appreciate y 'all. Like, comment, subscribe.

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