Wack Beat Up a Girl?! Crip Mac KOed Again, Sauce Walka Crashes Out & More

37:34I guess she took that photo down because it's not on her Instagram anymore. Was it on her story or was it on the record? It was on her feed. I was looking at it earlier and she followed me but then Was it AI? Maybe it's a different Instagram because she followed me but I can't seem to find the account. Oh no, followed by Adam22. Indeed that is me. So I don't know. She had it up earlier but I guess it's gone. Well she gotta realize when she put that up as viral as that is, it's on the internet. It's stuck. so yeah it's gonna be it don't matter if they called you until you take it down it don't ever matter at this point and okay for the record it's like i don't agree with guys hitting girls generally but there's definitely a level that a woman can get to in which i do think it's justified yeah there's a level to which you are no longer a lady and you're just a human yeah but the thing is like if you could get if a girl could get you or somebody could get you to that level like even i'm just even just in life in general right now i'm like removing myself from the situation because it's like nothing good comes out of that shit.

38:33And if somebody can trigger you that bad, like to where you attack them, somebody who can't beat you up, you know she can't beat you up. Yeah. It's like a lose-lose. Like just remove yourself, get up. Hey, come on, babe, we out of here. This is fucking sad. That's straight little dick weirdo energy. Who the fuck puts hands on a female? Like even has to, especially if you're in a boss position, get it under control. If it's really that deep, send one of your homegirls to beat her ass. What the fuck? That's some straight Mark shit. I don't really know what she did. So it's not like I could actually justify the situation in general.

39:03Who really puts hands on a female? A lot of people. That's fucking weird. Yeah, you're in hip hop. What the fuck are you talking about? This is the subculture in which hitting girls is the most normalized. No, I think. A huge percentage of the rappers I've met over the years have domestic situations occurring all the time. It's country music too. Man, they talk about this shit. They probably got the gold medal at that. Could you even name one country singer who got arrested for beating up their girl? It's like the subject of the game. Yeah, see, that's pretty rough. That's pretty rough. I can't even name your name.

39:34I'm not naming the rappers, but it's because I don't want to get them in trouble. Hey, Adam. If I put my hands on Leonard, that's assault. If Adam put his hands on Leonard, that's domestic violence. It's a difference, bro. Well, if she wants to call the cops, it's assault, too. No, if you do it, it's not. Yeah. If I hit her and she calls the cops and says I hit her, yeah, I'm getting arrested. That's domestic violence. well I mean sure but it's also assault right doesn't domestic you're the hubby unless you super obsessive with it but look I'm telling you this is not your bitch what are you even arguing about like you know what I'm saying I can see if you get into it your bitch and you're like shut the fuck up yeah that's what I don't get it because it's like you have security in here if there was a girl who was pushing the limits so much and it was that annoying this is what I would do hey get her out of here the end.

40:26If I felt myself even getting close to the point where I was going to trip out, or I'm going to yell at her, I'm going to make the content, but as soon as I feel like it's getting to the point where this is going to be a violent situation, I'm going to tell the security to get her out of here. Adam, there is no security in the house. Well. He kept saying, get her out of here! Get her out of here! She didn't go nowhere. There was no security, bro. The Crips are their security. Well. Or them little bum niggas you'd be on tour with. The three niggas that follow Whack around. Like, there ain't no real security but that's the kind of content that's being made though i was just talking to y 'all about this shit and about the standard is dropping it's like what is this shit what what is that what would you come over now the of those shows those zeus shits and like just fighting and like oh let's fight and beat each other up well like fucking i hate to break it to you but black people love it no white people love it nope who do you think signing up for zeus white people no if they had some ass they'd be signed Zeus is like I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Zeus's audience is like 70 % black plus like listen women love reality TV in general but I think it's fair to say Zeus's audience is and it's the same people that are watching Love and Hip Hop and all that shit on VH1 etc it's the same people that love rap white people it's like white people rap appeals to men though no no no the Hispanic support hip hop rap is California for sure rap is white people largely who want to know about what's going on in the streets or with black people or whatever sure but when it comes to like black based reality TV the likes of like Zeus and all this type of shit it's women who want to watch women living lives that are slightly cooler than their lives it's for sure not me I was never entertained I was never entertained by females fighting unless I really want this particular female to get whooped out you know what I'm saying I've never been entertained about that in my life.

42:20Chicks fighting each other? I mean, if I want to see some titty, I'm going to have sex. I don't need to wait for no bitch to fight for it to come out. You know what I'm saying? More black people watch the Zeus Network as the subscription streaming platform mainly targeting centers around black urban culture, hip-hop influencers, and black reality television cast. I don't think you even have to. Oh, that's a higher male. You didn't even have to. No, higher female. You didn't even have to type that in. I already knew blacks is tapping. Yeah, but Rio's trying to argue with us. The whole cast is black.

42:45Wait it's 58 % female And then 42 % male But maybe Zeus has a bunch of stuff that we don't really know about That appeals more to men Cause I had it at one point And I watched one episode of Baddies And I couldn't handle it I was like this is the dumbest It feels so insulting to my intelligence to watch this It feels so fake and contrived Is that where the girl with the big chin is on? Natalie Nunn? Is that where she's at? Well is she part of Zeus? So it started with Batgirls Club And then it I believe is the producer of Batgirls Is she? I watched that one show but they stopped it Because I think they couldn't get along Black China Mama Tokyo Tony Jason Lee was asking me about her That was entertaining She's the face Tokyo Tony?

43:35She's like the face of Zeus Which I didn't realize Because she did create Batgirls But didn't she create Batgirls on regular TV? It was like a spinoff of Bad Girls Club. Then she started as a person on the show. On Bad Girls Club. That's crazy that she's known for having a big chin to the point where Black Boy Max wore a fake chin on stream with her. She looks like the McDonald's guy back in the day, The Moon. Yeah, yeah. A lot of girls get their chins grinded down now. I wonder if that's not an option for her. She got the Scream chin? She got the Mac Tonight. It is pretty out there, yeah. I know a lot of girls that have had like chin work done.

44:17Get their chin smaller. Get like a little ball in their chin to make their chin different shape. Well, are those people like on camera like... Porn stars. Porn stars. Yeah, that's... I'm just like, they're trying to look good for a reason. Got that sturdy chin. But Natalie Nunn on camera all the time too. Like if she cared, she would probably do it. But fuck it. She's like, shit, I got this much money with this shit. Who is this dude and why is this gay dude? in the house with blue face you know bobby i saw some clips of him i don't really know is he like who is that guy i feel like that appeals to like there's a lot of overlay in that audience and i'm not talking about the black audience i'm talking about people specifically i mean but that ain't there there is for sure a sizable portion of gay people watching that i mean but that ain't cripping bro what are you doing just keeping a gay dude around he's like a stylist or something Blue face.

45:06Respect my crippy. Right. You telling this nigga not to say cuz. But you got the gay dude. And then he had the other gay dude that was rubbing his dick on my leg. Remember when the guy was putting his dick on my leg? That's his stylist. Yeah. He's there too. He was there? No, I'm saying that's what you guys are saying. Both of those guys are there. Blue face. Stay with a fag. No, no, no. Not the one that put his thing on his thigh. It's another gay dude with a deep voice. Yeah, this dude, Bobby. I just keep seeing clips of him. I don't really know exactly who he is or whatever. But I mean, hey, that shit is on par is what I'm saying.

45:38Well, whack, like whatever that is, it's on par for that type of entertainment. It's like fighting and aggressive violence. But you ain't asking my uncle, what's the gay nigga there for? Some gay shit. Just to be a gay guy. Spice it up, you know? Okay. If you got a house full of black dudes, you throw like one racist guy in there, boom, now we got a TV show. House full of gangsters, throw a gay dude in there, boom, something might happen. He might be a makeup or stylist. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He gay gay. I was like, what is his brother? People know who he is. It's like a Saucy Santana type character.

46:11He sound like he got, he with the business. It sound like he whipped somebody ass. Munchie's mind is so attuned to like any gay dude being around a bunch of straight guys. No, no, no, no. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I know some gay people. But I'm saying if this, like, it's based around women. All right, here's my show. It's called Punks. We get a big house. Filled with a bunch of tough ass dudes who did serious prison time. they have to all have taken a man's booty before you put him in a house with a bunch of really feminine gay dudes and they have to fight the urge to fuck these dudes like like fleece johnson type of police johnson is number one on my list yes so he's the host somebody gonna be they're gonna get caught get caught what that's already what they into they go they go sneaking gate oh yeah i mean the goal of the show is eventually for every one of the dudes to fuck it that's the direction this bullshit is going well maybe that's how you lose is you don't fuck sheesh or that's how you win you win if you're the one dude who can't fuck who can't bring himself to do it ponks with a with an o p-o-n-k the sad fucking thing is this is like not that far off of what is being like this all this shit is just the standard is just dropping and dropping this shit is fucking garbage i guess like this show would be complicated because it's kind of alluding to the idea of rape?

47:30No, that's... No, temptation. Temptation. Because the punks is going to give in, right? Yeah. They there to like to dangle the carrot, right? Yeah, for sure, dangling the carrot in more ways than one. It's crazy, man. This world is coming to some shit. I'm telling you, the fucked up crazy shit, you just thought of this shit out of your crazy ass mind. Yeah. And it will make some fucking money. People will watch that shit. Like, it's like literally watching train wrecks. The thing is, I think when you're conceptualizing like a TV show like that, you have to keep in mind that the content needs to be relatable enough to appeal to a big group of people, you know?

48:08So even like baddies being like something that's clearly kind of directed at black women, to me, like in my head, the first thing I think of is like, shit, is that demographic big enough? it appears it is the thing is if you do a show about guys who are like trying to fuck gay dudes every dude's gonna be turned off by it because they're every 99 % well i shouldn't say 99 90 % of guys are weirded out by gay shit i don't think women want to see that because that sounds weird i just think it's like it's too weird that it might not work all you gotta do is add fighting in there all you gotta do is add fighting the punk beat up one of the jail dudes and then then because they have a gay show where all they do is fight i just i think you might underestimate how much normal people are disgusted and weirded out by gay shit they have shit on fucking tv where motherfuckers is in love with roller coasters but that's not gay shit fucking balloons and dolls and all kinds of furries but people can to be weirded out by freaky fetishes like that i don't think people are gonna be able to like sit back and laugh about like oh cript mac they're trying to like tempt cript mac with this gay dude like haha like because that's obviously going to be an episode because cript mac has to come in and like make it clear that he's not going to do this clear eye for the cript eye um yeah i don't know

49:37I did an interview with Aaron Carter before he died, and we were talking about making a T-shirt with me and him making out on the T-shirt. And we thought it was so funny somehow. We made it, I think we sold 10.

49:55So, all our fans, straight men, they don't want a fucking shirt with two dudes kissing. Which I probably should have known that. but even put a shirt with just your face on it yeah even that it's weird you know what I mean like that's not it but if you throw say you and Aaron Carter fight when you throw violence on shit it's that much more consumable violence and sex are the only things worth selling I've heard people say and when you really think about it like you know like people always like in the BMX world they still come to me and they're like yo like do you think we could get Rainbed to sponsor this thing and I'm like nah like realistically they're going for big broad things violence the boxing matches and shit sex with the porn shit streamers they're huge right now maybe like a top top tier rapper or boxer or something but like a BMX dude I'm sorry it's not mainstream enough for them it has to have some element of danger to that shit like who would watch a rodeo if it wasn't a possibility of somebody getting fucked up that's a good point and that's probably why like the x games is a failure because like it's just not it's not relatable to people it's just yeah like you know like you guys would watch if i told you hey there's a show this guy's gonna try to do a triple backflip over this huge thing like you would maybe watch that it's kind of like simple enough to understand but as soon as i'm like oh this guy's gonna do a front side over crook to to kickflip 99 of people are like what shut up don't care it's too Too technical.

51:29Over a pool of giant great white sharks. But I've seen it because I've been at BMX events that are in front of like normal audiences of people. Yeah. And they're doing crazy tricks over the jumps or whatever. And it's not really like anybody's cheering. And then someone does a backflip and everybody goes crazy. Backflip's easy to understand, you know? Fucking shit, man. Would you just come back with a fucking sack of Altoids? He went and apologized. He went and shaved face right now. He went over there and was like, you know what? Don't worry about Adam. That's just how he is. He's tripping. Tell me you didn't go talk to her.

51:58She left She said don't worry about it keep your job Oh shit She was actually hot Keep your job is like not really the lesson That she should be learning The lesson she should be learning is don't go to somebody's podcast And not have a mic and sit on the side And talk loudly and continue talking When they tell you to stop talking Because if she goes and makes YouTube videos Acting like she was in the right I mean lol I don't think so I'm about to go in on them She was like, no, keep your job. Lo's like, sorry, 22's just crazy sometimes, man. He's a wild man. You can see my text. You're like, I don't want to look through your phone.

52:38You can do me like Munchie if you want. But no, honestly, I was just like, oh, man, really, again, like the first girl I bring over here, she's going to like argue with the podcast. Like, fuck. That was a sensitive subject for her. Yeah, but the good news for her is that all she got to do is apologize. yeah no I don't think it's that big me

53:02well I mean okay like it's just if you're gonna come hang out during a podcast you can't expect to be able to talk without a microphone off camera during the podcast like almost every podcast ever would agree with that I've heard you say that multiple times to people off camera you ever watch Joe Rogan and just hear some guy talking off camera no because it's a professional podcast you don't do that the story of my life basically you know what I'll say this like God gives me exactly what I need but it's not necessarily what I want and earlier today I asked God I was like hey God homie big homie biggest homie show me if this situation is right because it's a little early it's a little early in sobriety for me to be hanging out with a girl like that so just show me if this is a good idea or not and that was your message right there.

53:56I got a few messages. I got a few messages. Okay. So that helped you conclude that she's the one? No, it's kind of the... Good job, Adam. I wouldn't even say... Nah. No, it's not a matter of her being the one or not. It's more like, is it a good idea for me to even be hanging with girls right now? And I thought that I... They will drag you in the wrong direction. But what if they're straightage? What if they don't drink Orsum? No, it's not even about like, like I feel like that might be part of it, but I think that I'm just not really in a place to emotionally to be dealing with females yet. I still got a lot of volatile it is right now.

54:37I still got a lot of work to do on myself. It's not even about that. It's about how I react to certain things. So how did you react? Well, visibly I didn't, but inside, like I was like, I felt a lot of feelings. Right there during that argument, You wanted to grab a buzz ball It's not about wanting to grab a buzz ball Although that sounds incredible right now I'm sorry for even mentioning the word But nah It was more It's more just like damn fool Like You're not ready yet You're not ready to be dealing with females You got a lot more work to do You got to focus on yourself How did you come to that man That's what we're trying to say How did I come to it Yeah I'm missing it bro Because of like the How like how different things make me feel emotionally because i mean if i talked about all the different things that were going on in my it's not a fucking i'm not doughboy this is in a therapy session you feel me so there's no real need to dissect the intricacies but i just know before the pot i was thrown off about some other shit you know what i mean and then that was like ah so yeah i had a moment i had two moments during the 20 versus one because like my brain is still recalibrating to what it is to be single and just talking to girls feels way different regardless if you're trying to fuck them or whatever because for the last 10 years if i meet a porn star girl it's like okay like i'll be nice to her try to like you know get her to think i'm cool so that she'll want to do porn with us on camera or whatever but i haven't been thinking at all about like oh like could i hang out with her could i go on a date with her could i hook up with her is she somebody that i would want to spend time with it anyway now my brain is heart is starting to recalibrate to that and i'm like one thing that happened during the 20 versus one is that there was a girl and she was african american for the record and she said are you only into girls are you into guys too and i like immediately noticed it in myself that i got offended which i don't think i would have while I was like really married and it and also I started to notice too is like are you more offended because she's black and because you know that your black homies wouldn't let a girl say that to them I don't know how you got there that they're like maybe I should have spread it out a little bit I just unpacked a lot like I don't know how like so let's unpack that why being a black woman do you get more offended by that like I think I said but that because I don't think that right well I I answered that part, right?

57:08But because your black friends don't let them do that, that makes you more offended? I think I was seeing it from their perspective, and I guess I felt it as if she was testing my manhood and trying to knock me down a peg in that moment. Oh, it was a jab. You think she was doing it as a jab at you? Yeah, I took it as her almost trying to question what degree of man I was. So if a white woman does it, it's not like an attack on your character. It's like a genuine question, is what you're trying to say? I do kind of feel like a white woman saying it. I would be much more likely to ascribe it as just being her being stupid and like just thinking it was funny or something.

57:45Whereas this girl saying it to me. I felt like she knew what she was doing to me and that she was trying to like. Because that's a sensitive. Yeah, that's a sensitive subject with black men. And so you're like, oh, she's testing me. She's pushing. That might be that might be the thing. So I just smack the fire. No, you did. No, I did not. But imagine, you know, there's a part of me in that moment where I was like, oh, I got to start being really mean to her. So wait, what did you say to her? I got like a little offended, but I wasn't like super offended. I was like a little bit like, hey, don't fucking play with me like that.

58:18Wait, was she a top notch one? Was she one of the badder ones? Or was she a mediocre one? I thought she was pretty hot. Oh, damn. But then like, you know, it's weird because it's like she don't got no followers or whatever. I'm looking through her Instagram and I'm like, I thought you were hot in real life, but you don't seem to really know how to make yourself look hot consistently on the gram but then i saw one picture of her and i'm like damn she looks amazing in this picture and then i noticed that it had the ai thing but in person she was hot but it's like ai filter i just wonder no i don't know it just had the ai filter but it's like noticeably like her skin was super smoothed out or boobs look bigger you know the ai filter whatever but no i uh in that moment i was just like but wouldn't that be like finding a diamond like if she was a diamond like finding some someone that has not figured out the game that's not like that's what it's all polished like she's not super polished and don't have this shit but she might be bad you know it is two different degrees of like only fans management where on one hand you could try to like find a girl who's already cracking and be like oh she's making 50k i think i can get her to 150k i could get her to 200k but if you got a girl like this girl got like a thousand followers so it's kind of like well could i like like does she have what is needed to blow up in general because if a girl has a couple hundred thousand followers you kind of already know that she like assuming that they're real followers that she already has like the raw material to be something that could hit but if you could discover somebody when they have a thousand followers that's when you really know that you got the the ability to see the future or see what's possible you know but is that that's a factor in your in your pursuit of single like of a woman is like what you can do how how you can blow her up how you can build her that's it oh we're talking about relationship i don't know that's different yeah i don't want to date this girl i just want to fucking make money over so the 20 v1 is just strictly like i'm trying to find somebody to make money with I mean you make money off the 20 v 1 maybe you meet a girl you sign her you make money off her like that get some rain bet reels make some money like that you know so there wasn't any element of like get back to Lana yeah I mean, I don't know.

1:00:36Like, if she sees the video of me making out with this girl, yeah, it's probably going to be kind of interesting to see how she feels about that. I mean, I'm pretty sure she's not aware of it yet? It ain't out yet, champ. When it comes out, she's going to find out. I mean, I don't know. It's like, we're going to find out, like, what can make her move. What could get some emotion out of it? Don't any of y 'all feel that like kissing is more intimate sometimes than sex? I mean, that's why that was one of Lena's only rules, shooting with other guys, no kissing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Which some guys are really like not hyped on.

1:01:14They love the kissing. What's more intimate in your opinion, like plowing or getting top? Well, I mean, to me, kissing is like way more intimate than having sex, for the record. Yeah, I agree. But also like giving head or fucking, I think fucking is more because we're sharing in your vaginal fluids whereas like sucking my dick is like it's just a dick. It's like you can suck my finger. It's like the same exchange of germs. Who are we talking about? Except sperm don't come out your finger. I mean like if it's your main bitch and she cheat, then what you saying like which one? That's a good question.

1:01:50Yeah so what's worse? Both. Yeah both. But I feel like Adam's giving away the sauce because it's like it's more manufactured you know what i mean like it's not like just happening in in in your natural movement like it's like a setup of a 20 v1 versus like you out in life like living your life and dating and doing this like all this is like kind of like not not realistic it's like all production is produced you know what i mean like to make to get a real reaction it needs to be you out in life doing real shit. But then how would she find out unless it was in some way turned into content? Only way she would find out is if she cared.

1:02:31Right. Like now you're trying to manufacture caring. You know what I mean? I'm not trying to do anything. I'm not trying to manufacture anything. Anything you give a fuck about the Mofford on, she ain't gonna find out about, believe it. Because he want his baby back like the ribs. So like, all the shit that's like, you know what I'm saying? He ain't gonna find out. What I'm saying is like, okay, you could fuck a girl and just like keep it low key that's whatever as soon as you're like making out with a girl on streamer in a 20 versus one okay now you're doing a performance yeah that's what i'm saying as soon as it becomes a performance it's different i'm not trying to do any performing right now you know like i'm not trying to if i am seeing any girls if i got anything going on which for the record i have not i'm still i'm i'm i'm a church boy but if i was i would probably trying to like really keep it low key because i'm not trying to like the world see what the fuck is going on did tmz go hop out the bushes on you man did that 20v1 make you kind of like miss lena more in certain ways like oh like i'm interacting with all these different girls but it don't hit the same as like the feelings i had for this for my wife yeah i don't know like i mean you never felt like that like after you break up with someone you're like there's part of that that comes with post nut clarity okay but then there's also clarity there's also just the realization of like oh right my life's not over once i've become single or whatever like there's still a lot of great girls out there a lot of interesting people you can spend time with whereas like when you're really in that relationship you really start to convince yourself like i i'm not going to be okay without a relationship like everything has to be you know like this is what i need to be in and if i'm out of this relationship i'm fucked and then for me get out of the relationship i'm calling oh right life goes on i feel that because like i definitely when i was in my last relationship i felt like oh like i need this this is so important and then i actually i know that i could mess with other girls and stuff like that right now and i actually feel super lonely if i'm being honest like i'm very very very lonely but i don't but i don't think it's me being in a relationship or trying to mess with somebody is not worth because like what comes emotionally uh to me from that is not worth it and could potentially make me relapse or some weird shit yeah that's you you're dealing with something other other than what adam is dealing with yeah in that regard that adds another layer to it yeah Adam is just not being single yet He's not really being single In the real world He's being single on camera And that's the thing too That's one of the main reasons why I didn't want to do a 20B1 It would be cool for You wanted to your girl wouldn't leave No I didn't really though Because I don't really just want to be out there I want to actually Kick it with somebody I want a relationship I want that sensation of love but I also know that that's not the place to find it for me.

1:05:41Yeah. At all. What, the 20 versus one girls you think are like lower quality than like other girls? No, but it's not about them being lower quality. It's not about them being lower quality. It's about them having an agenda. They want to be on No Jumper. They want the clout. They're not necessarily trying to be with me. Yeah. That's not really how I felt in the 20 versus one. I felt like, oh, actually, like most of these girls would probably be my girlfriend right now if I wanted to. Yeah, I mean, I totally get that. And I'm speaking for me personally. And even if they would want to be my girlfriend, what would be the intention behind that?

1:06:17Would they want to be my girlfriend because it leverages their career, positions them better, or do they actually just like me? What is a girl dating you're really going to get her besides disgust on this podcast? I mean... I don't know. But some girls might think that. They might think like, oh, shit. There's a certain amount of celebrity that comes with lust. to someone with less celebrity. You know what I mean? It's just about leveraging your position, however. Like the fact that he said, I think some of these girls would want to be my girlfriend. It lets you know these bitches ain't really looking to be into who you really are.

1:06:53When I was eliminating girls, some of the girls, I got the vibe that they just didn't care at all because they were just here to get some attention or whatever. And some of the girls, I was like, damn. like they really seem kind of bummed like fuck like yeah thought we really were kind of hitting it off and i felt fucking terrible but think about what you were saying about how like you're going to get a girl you're going to blow her up they're thinking about that like they're like they know i could do that because i my like with lena is like the most insane resume ever for like especially if the girl does only fans yeah and they just look at me and they're like this guy just spent 10 years with this girl she went from if they're paying attention they noticed that she went from literally nothing to one of the biggest porn star girls of all time and i was the dude who was open-minded enough to let her do crazy shit if they're paying attention they noticed that i kind of helped brainstorm a lot of the things over the years etc and you know actually got married had a kid etc it's like kind of to them it's like oh he's open-minded enough that he's not gonna hate on me for the only fans thing because that's the number one thing that girls these days have to deal with that they get fucking heard about because every girl has not every girl but like a huge percentage of girls in la have only fans and they all feel like dudes are just like unnecessarily judging the fuck out of them which they are you know we all know how big of a stigma there is but also their only fans is gonna fucking crack it's gonna pop yeah just if off of that one thing you know this is getting 20 or more see like that but so that's a part of the disappointment and that's the on-camera single shit like the disappointment is like fuck you're an opportunity you're a benefit to them who's a benefit to you like that's like where it's your come up like versus their come up they scratching each other bad I don't think I really want to date somebody like bigger than me or like more important than me that just feels like such a fucking headache you don't want to be ASAP Rocky especially not right now yeah exactly yeah and who even what the fuck what girl do I even know that is like that like they would agree is like you know way up here that i even know i'm not i don't know enough people in that i'm not even saying that i'm like so high up in society but like what girls would do i even know like it's so hard to make something out of yourself as a woman besides doing some kind of sex work what i mean it's true like what a skewed perspective oh my god you guys are all laughing Because if I'm not just saying the most obvious thing ever.

1:09:22We're in hip-hop. With the least amount of talent, with the least amount of skill, like, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And let's just, like, zero in on industry. Hip-hop. Yeah. Successful male rappers versus successful female rappers. It's, like, 99 to 1. There's, like, almost no female rappers popular throughout the history of this genre. The past few years being the most, right? Sure, but still microscopic. But I'm just saying, then you look at the industry, the labels, all the label guys, all the A &Rs, are like massively male you know like most of the women that we know who are famous and like respected and big names in the culture or whatever it in some way goes back to their beauty yeah for sure you got you got edgy martinez is at a world you got karen civils edgy martinez not ugly though first no no i'm saying i mean someone look i'm talking about females is like in the realm talented that's pop and stuff like that yeah i mean there's i think that what adam said is a bit of an exaggeration, but yes, it's been a male-dominated field, undeniably.

1:10:20But most industries are. The manager and Deb... Deb Adley. Deb Adley. I keep saying it backwards. Is that what I'm doing? Whatever. Deb to Deb. Whatever. She kicked off and was responsible for a lot of people's careers as A-list. I know, but I'm just saying that's such an exception to the rule that the vast majority of rappers have male managers and male A &R. The music industry is just so male. what's all girl dan that's uh kicked off 11 hip hop is that mona mona mona mona mona is it mona forget her name on the song y 'all supposed to know this shit i'm trying to think of what you're talking about yeah her name mona something bro but you know it's something out there i mean like there is a huge in 2021 or like 2022 there is like a huge surge of like where a lot of the most popular rappers were female when city girls model and cardi and megan were all at their high mostly manufactured industry shit yeah too i mean that was like the wave they were trying to push now you factor what you mean you think city girls is manufactured yeah and uh you know when you look at like the labels just choosing to invest money into that because they felt like oh this shit has legs dudes rapping we don't give a fuck anymore and that's why like nobody has a budget anymore even the girls don't have budgets anymore but it's dudes writing their records like a dude that wrote almost all the nicky's records a dude wrote almost all the cardi's records uh yadi wrote uh act up by city girls.

1:11:42So like the Hummy Skane wrote Iggy biggest record. I mean, this is the real question is like name a woman who you know who is very, very successful who is ugly. Who is ugly? Oprah, I would say, you know, 40 years ago when she cracked off, wasn't really that ugly. She was fat as hell. She looks better now. But let's say women under 40. Under 40? I don't want to call anybody. I know. It's a hard question to answer. I don't want to call anybody ugly. But I'm just saying that like it doesn't happen that much if you look at the top female pop stars in america right now they're all objectively pretty fucking hot let me tell you something but wait some female comedians that's a good point comedians in general we allow them to be ugly but i'm just saying like even if you just look at like the singers sabrina carpenter super hot olivia rodrigo hot taylor swift kind of getting up there in age still pretty hot adele lost a shitload away and got hot but she got hot but she's she popped before she lost the way as soon as the gop ones come out boom she's on and yeah liz all boom she fell off yeah i'm just saying now she got surgery and okay there's this this uh girl that i've been listening to a little bit named audrey hobart and she's like a really talented female white singer and she is really funny really great songwriter she is not attractive it's like the whole fucking dialogue about her on twitter is like oh she's not attractive she's not attractive like your girls listening to a girl like her audience is not male i'm probably in the like 15 of her audience that's male and like her female audience really wants to have this conversation about her not being attractive enough i'm like what is wrong with women hey bro do you know like money make you look a little better minus the surgery like if you could like dress yourself get your hair done lashes eyebrows you dripping and shit you gonna look a little better i think if beyonce didn't have no money she's like one of the average pretty females around the neighborhood yeah i mean so for women especially as they get older it's like you're not you're not ugly you're poor because if you have money almost any woman can present herself as being like very attractive you know for sure and the fucked up thing is like what you're talking about is that that's so fucked up for women right but even like only fans those women are uber successful because of men to pay you know what i mean like look at the wmba the The WNBA could be uber successful if women supported it.

1:14:02That's true. Well, it's like lesbian Lollapalooza. They love that shit. But even if moms, even if just regular women supported the WNBA, they could be cracking. But they'd rather go to the NBA and watch the NBA and support the NBA. They want to see people dunk. Yeah, so like that feminist shit about like, oh, we want this equal shit. Like you can if you support that shit. But you don't even support that shit. You know what's funny though? A man, you could be an ugly nigga, bro. As long as you carry yourself straight, you good. if you're an ugly bitch bro you in trouble that's like you you you you you better have a bag or but okay this is the thing too though is an ugly dude is is not going to be shit unless he makes something out of himself you could be ugly as fuck oh you a millionaire boom you're lit you're great whatever but then on the other hand we we all know dudes who are good looking dudes that seemingly like infinite women want to spend time with them and they ain't on shit man but they're Some good looking guys.

1:14:56I know some broke, ugly homies, bro, that get hoes, bro. I tell you, all you got to do is carry yourself right. I'm like, shit, I don't know. What the fuck? And you got a smash like you got rent to pay. I realized that from, there's a guy named Leo who does YouTube videos with Danny Mullen. And Leo is like a very good looking white guy with long hair. He was on The Bachelor. The Bachelor. So that kind of says everything. If you're a guy who is qualified just by being hot that you're on The Bachelor, you're probably a pretty hot dude. He did get canceled while he was on The Bachelor and kicked off of it.

1:15:27But regardless, through talking to him, I've just kind of realized that he doesn't necessarily have the hustle that you would kind of expect a dude to have in his position as a YouTuber and shit. Because his whole life, he's kind of been able to just get girls to do whatever. By doing nothing. Girls will do shit for him. He could kind of fuck a new girl every night. He's just a hot guy. I have no idea what that's like. I had to work hard my whole life to get pussy. But that's like the pretty girl effect. Like being a pretty girl, you don't ever have to work it for anything. You're just always going to be sought after just because of pretty privilege.

1:16:04But when they're young, when they're, let's say, between 18 and 25, probably like 80 % of girls have some degree of pretty privilege. Whereas I would say that like guys in the same age range, probably like closer to like 10 or 20%. It's like it literally like is inverted. Yeah, so women aren't taking advantage of the pretty privilege in the way that suits them best. They think that in their pretty privileged time, it's time to be a hoe. No, in your pretty privileged time, it's time for you to try to buckle down and get somebody. Because after 25, all that shit goes away. There's all these videos that keep going viral of women who are like 35 talking about like, oh, now I'm ready to settle down.

1:16:40And I'm ready to have kids. And I don't want to compromise like doing the Doughboy thing. I don't want to settle down. I don't want to settle or whatever. I want to wait for the right guy. And it's like, bro, you're 35. like you don't got a lot of bargaining power at this point do you know who you're competing with like you're competing with the whole generation of pretty girls that are in the peak pretty privilege and girls have a super fucked up mentality too where they think that a guy needs to make this outrageous amount of money in order for him to be their ideal partner yeah and it's like if you're a guy you're in the tiny tiny percent of guys who makes a million dollars a year guess what you're not like dying to settle down with a woman your age like you're probably like fucking a bunch of hot 25 year olds right this 85 percent of women are are competing for 10 to 5 percent of the men yeah and those guys are not the ones who really want to settle down and get a nice little house and build a family with you exactly well just like what you said earlier like once a woman reaches a certain age if she has money she ain't got to be ugly once a dude reaches a certain age as long as he has money he can still bang hot 25 year old girls I feel like it's like that forever for men I don't ever feel like that's not the case for men like if you are funny you can be funny and ugly or you can be fat and funny or men always have the advantage of having another tool or character that could like get a girl to sleep with them having money like trumps everything though yeah but that's not the only trump it's a bunch of ugly motherfuckers that's got bad, you'll see a fat dude with a bad girl.

1:18:18You won't see a fat woman with a top tier man. Nope. When do you see that? Never. Barely ever. Historically. Almost never, yeah. Yeah, it's a weird world we live in, man. Because why would you want that? What, a big bitch? Yeah, look, not even like a big bitch, but it's like if you have a choice. I mean, if you're a single 40-year-old guy and you're doing well for yourself in life, you're successful, you've got some money, you're the kind of guy that a large percentage of women want to be with you know yeah maybe there's some chick and she's like really fucking fat and like you get along great with her and shit well guess what there's like probably a couple hundred girls you can meet this month if you wanted to that you'll get along with just as good that you would be sexually attracted to now there's some percentage of guys that are chubby chasers but it's pretty small it's a lane for that but I would say like it is gonna sound super like it's BBW clubs bro so you know you know is dudes looking for right they're out there but chubby girls they are some of the best personalities like they like and because they are like have to they're realistic in life you know what i mean like they've dealt they're the opposite of not getting a position because they're they're beautiful or because of this they've earned their positions in life and they've had to work past things and so when you do interact with these women you're like fuck i could chill like i could We could do everything together because they've had to be in the real world doing real things.

1:19:46And I haven't, like I didn't really experience this until I moved to L.A. because like looking back on it in New Hampshire, there just weren't like super beautiful women. You would just, you would move, you know? And like in New York, I'm kind of like a scumbag, BMX dude, whatever. But then when I moved to L.A., I started going to the clubs. All of a sudden now I'm around like knockout hot chicks. They don't want to fuck with me, but I'm around them at least. yeah and i start to realize these are the worst people i've ever met my entire life the hottest girls like the girls who actually are like nines or tens or like could actually be on the cover of a fucking magazine probably scumbags the worst personalities and not not necessarily bad people but just dumb can't figure anything out kind of just like default to expecting dudes to fix every single problem for them they just haven't like figured out any coping mechanisms in life which think about it if you're a 10 and your car breaks down on the side of the road you got a flat tire and you pop out and you're trying to figure out the jack 30 minutes what me and every other guy hey let me let me get down there i don't even know how to do this but i'll figure out how to use a jack um but then meanwhile like you know fucking adele in her prior form the car breaks down ain't nobody stopping she's doing it herself she's and meanwhile she then gets to become a better person because now she knows how to fucking fix the flat tire which also i don't know how to do that they always make fun of me for that but i never had to do it do you think they because they're better moms probably in general do you think they're better moms better wives better partners you know what else they are they give the way better top i think everyone at this table can agree that fat girls give them but again because they have to but all right but i'm gonna i'm gonna say this is that okay when i'm at the private school which i often am sometimes i look around the room and I notice that out of all the parents at the fancy private school, an extremely small percentage are overweight.

1:21:44Because what do you do when you've kind of made it in life? When you've kind of like figured out everything in life, you want to eat healthy. You want to be in shape. You want to live a long life. So like as much as, yeah, I would say like, okay, a fat person probably maybe has like figured out better coping mechanisms in life. It's not always true because I also feel like a person who's really smart and with it and understands like how to live a good life is probably going to also be smart enough to be like, Oh, I should eat salads instead of KFC. Yeah. But a lot of those women were chosen by the smart men.

1:22:16True. You know what I mean? That were established already men that were established in life and they got chose by somebody that was a top tier person. And now they get, they have the ability and time to critique what they consume and what they do, as where a big girl is like, shit, I got to figure out all this shit on my own. You know what I mean? But when you do see the good-looking guy with the fat woman, you know that she didn't used to look like that, and she got like that because she's having a shitload of kids for this guy, you know? Oh, like the body dropped down. Right, so he signed on with her.

1:22:53I'm going to weather this storm of you gaining 150 pounds, but also you probably assume that at some point they would like for her to get her shit together again also. Either that or she is the breadwinner and she's making the money and she chose up on somebody that was not successful. You know what I mean? True. Possibly. Hey, it's some big girls with some pretty faces. Yeah. For sure. And I hear a lot that they say that about the chubby Barbie girl that if she like slimmed down, she'd be like cool, cool. She not ugly. That's what I'm saying. Like, they say she got a pretty face if she wasn't shaped like a pear.

1:23:32You know what I'm saying? But that's what I think every time I look at her, too, is just like, this is a waste of some pretty good potential. Because you slim down a little bit. Or if somebody do her$25 ,000 to fix her, because can't money fix you now? For sure. But even with the surgery, I wouldn't fuck her based on how she's not wired right. You know what I'm saying? Also, she might have the Doughboy flaps. if she lost a bunch of weight. A gang can be surgically fixed, though, right? A what? Yeah, but I heard that to get your fat trimmed up and sewn up and stuff, that shit expensive. You spend like 50 grand for the upper body.

1:24:10Oh, wow. That's what I heard. Maybe a little less, but it's pretty expensive. She's that big? Okay, look. You don't think she's dope-less? No. Nah. No, no, no. What a kind of female is the engine is the brain. The body is the body of the car. and then even if like you fix her body she's still not wired right it's electrical problems so i wouldn't even care to fix the fucking body of the car because you ain't gonna be able to do shit because she still nigga got electrical problems and shit you know what i'm saying yeah and i mean once you go fat it's tough to go back like i remember going on multiple dates with a girl back in the day in new york yeah i just made it up but i i went on a date with a girl a bunch of times back in the day in new york i thought she was super hot finally we we go to hook up and like as i'm just like touching her waist i'm just realizing like oh fuck like she she used to be fat she's not fat now but she got i could just feel it that the skin was hella loose damn which shout out to her you know no hate but you ain't gonna be my boo because i need something nice and tight.

1:25:18Fat girls, we have a firebox. I don't think it's that hard on fat girls like people think, man. Maybe not in Englewood. Nah, because big girls, that's a sign of stability. They're going to have a spot and they're going to cook. You feel me? They did a study on, they put these women in fat suits and did all their makeup and did everything where they looked like a fat woman. Shallow hell. Yep. Yep. And they were like broke down by the end of the day, end of the week, because they couldn't believe how they're being treated versus how they're treated without the shit, when they're pretty and this and that, and they're like, fuck, this is what...

1:25:56I thought guys loved me for my personality. Nope. Nope. Men are shallow as fuck. We like sexy things. That ain't, man. It's human. Because when you first meet somebody, it's the attraction first. Then you get to talking to them, then you get to vibing out. You know what I'm saying? So that's across the board Like it's the same thing as You ain't never seen a bit Oh you ugly girl come here If you on a dating app You might not get as many matches I done fucked some big booty bitches That just look like a horse That's after 11 o 'clock at night Ain't nobody gonna know How you feel about If you meet a girl And you realize that she got like some celebrity bodies, but they're from back in the day, like 10 plus years ago.

1:26:51It don't matter. What if they're really funny? The people that they bag? What if Diddy's one of them? Oof. Oh, shit. I'm kind of exaggerating, but I recently kind of had that experience with Taco Girl and sort of realized oh, fuck, you got some hilarious bodies from back in the day. Fuck. I don't tend to hold people's past against them like that. If it's something super off-brand like that, it might be different, but for the most part... R. Kelly and Diddy in the past. That's rough. And Weinstein? That'd be a crazy posse cut right there. But for some of the women that were popping back then, that's not an unlikelihood.

1:27:36If you were cracking back then, you might have, Brent. You're never going to meet a girl that didn't fuck and get beat up by Trey Songz. That has fucked him. Every girl I ever talked to in my whole life has like a Trey Songz sex slash abuse story. And or. Some didn't fuck him but they got like. So Trey Songz is abusive from. Well he's got a bunch of lawsuits and stuff so I don't really feel too bad about saying that but. Trigger Trey. Yeah. You know I've talked to like infinite girls that are like yeah. Is he still putting on music bro? Not like he used to. That dude could have been the heir to R.

1:28:11Kelly's throne in one way and then he wound up being in another way. No. No, he was, he was super popping though. He was very close. Like 2010, 2011, Trey Songz was that dude. Trey Songz was like, the girls liked him. He was handsome, like a sex symbol, but like as in like real raw talent. No, he's not, he's not as great as R. Kelly, for sure. But he's very talented. R. Kelly might be the greatest artist of all time. Can't nobody go versus against R. Kelly and win. Better than Michael Jackson? That's the only one you could put up there with him. I mean, like there's, there's a lot of people from previous eras like the Al Greens and Marvin Gayes None of them do no verses against R.

1:28:48Kelly bro None of them You can't really do a versus between somebody that has three decades before you came out But he also produced, wrote and performed all his fits He's incredibly talented We've been forgetting because of the nasty shit that he did how he used to write for everybody and make hits for everybody Instant hits If you paid R. Kelly you had an instant hit He wrote songs for Michael Jackson. Yeah. Bump, bump, bump. Okay, so it is possible to argue that R. Kelly is one of the greatest R &B artists and songwriters of all time, based strictly on his commercial success, vocal talent, and massive catalog, though claiming him as the absolute greatest of all time across all genres is rare and heavily contested.

1:29:32But as far as R &B, I think it sounds pretty close to R &B. Definitely for modern R &B. Who would you put against him, though? You can't put anybody. Not just R &B, just like go for a different genre. I'm not even talking. I'm saying. Elvis. No, I wouldn't put, I mean. Like you got to go mega star to go against him. Stevie Wonder. Prince. The Beatles. Stevie Wonder is what? Soul. Yeah. Okay, these are the ones that would usually be ranked higher. Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Prince, The Beatles, Aretha Franklin. Literally who he just said. Yeah. And R. Kelly Five. He up there for sure, undeniably.

1:30:09Taylor Swift. You wouldn't put none of them people against him if they was doing versus. Yeah, Drake ought to be way bigger, right? It would be. No, because he got Ghost Riders. So it was. I mean, all these people. R. Kelly would watch Drake, bro. R. Kelly would watch Drake? Yeah. Drake's way bigger. He'd go home forever. What are you talking about? I don't know about that, bro. So what I'm saying is, like, talent is about everything R. Kelly did. Like, not just performing and doing. Like, he did. He peed on girls. He was all over the whole thing. No, he's an incredible producer, incredible writer.

1:30:38all of the above undeniable and has a very vast catalog. In the contemporary cultural landscape, Drake is widely considered the greatest and a more successful artist overall. Of course. But that being said, a lot of it's because he went to prison. Right. Hey, bro, he couldn't fuck with R. Kelly, bro. Well, I think Drake's fans will choose him no matter. They're going to support Drake. I mean, his accolades spank. You could take R. Kelly's accolades for the first of all he was older when he got locked up than drake is now okay the only way that you can argue that r kelly is better than drake is basing it solely on vocal talent and self-contained r &b songwriting because if the metric for greatness is industry power hit making longevity cross genre innovation and career metrics then drake is clearly greater you could just use career metrics yeah no all right well y 'all know what the word impactful mean i mean i just think he's now jake has had a bigger impact for longer drake is bigger now because the i think the industry has changed right like the streaming and this and that like accessibility if r kelly wasn't held to what going to buy an album he was still a part of going to buy a cd true correct but drake dominated both both eras but also like the whole thing with him is that you have to look at like Drake's career, which is not over.

1:32:04And then R Kelly's career, which is definitely over. So it's like, you can pretty much like judge the two against each other. And Drake is like pretty much bigger in every conceivable metric. Now is R and Kelly a better singer? Like, okay, sure. But Drake has bigger hits. Yeah, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about just like hits alone. I'm talking about talent as a person. Kels can't fuck with Michael Jackson. That's the only argument you have. He can't fuck with Michael Jackson. I mean, he's not a better singer than Stevie Wonder. He's not a better songwriter or piano player than Stevie Wonder.

1:32:38I mean, there's other names you could put up there. He's not a better singer than Al Green. He's not a better singer than Bill Withers. He's not a better... There's a lot of fucking names. Now, don't put the not better singer than motherfuckers, because R. Kelly was an incredible singer. But I'm just saying, there's... I mean, like, if he would have produced music more prolifically and dropped more, D 'Angelo was fucking watching R. Kelly. The problem was he was a junkie and he only dropped a couple albums. But the whole thing is this. One thing to say like, oh, this person is so talented. It's another thing to say, oh, this person is talented and then use that talent to become the most successful artist in their genre of all time.

1:33:17And with R. Kelly, it's like, he made a lot of really big records and he might have the best voice or the best vocal ability, sure. Best catalog, period. But best catalog, he doesn't win that. Drake wins that. You're crazy. No, we just fucking looked it up. You guys weren't listening? But you're talking about Drake rap. I'm talking about in R &B, there is nobody. How are you going to isolate it to R &B when we did not do that throughout this entire conversation? No, what I'm talking about, listen, let me finish. As an artist, period, bro. As an artist, like, so Drake has dibbled and dabbled in R &B, right?

1:33:45Of course. I mean, a huge percentage of every album. R. Kelly washes them in R &B. Are we, as far as, like, just anything, the whole game? Yeah, yeah, R. Kelly definitely has a significant edge in the R &B category. So R. Kelly is significance in R &B. To me, it's bigger than Drake's in rap. When it comes to looking this stuff up, when you're answering data, data is getting answered daily about Drake. So it's going to be more, you know what I'm saying? It's worse than this dude been locked up for I forgot how long now and ain't put out nothing. So he going to crush him when you typing in anything like that.

1:34:20But in reality, Drake not fucking with R. Kelly. I think Drake could agree to that. How important of a metric is albums? he's got better albums he's got more classic albums more classic albums than Drake alright name them 12 steps ok y 'all googling everything else I'm not googling shit I already googled for sure R. Kelly is considered to be the better, the more talented R &B artist most of Drake's huge successes have come from hip hop I also don't think us isolating the argument down to R &B is a useful moving up the goalposts because we were talking about artistry overall. Obviously, if Drake had isolated his whole career down to just R &B, this would be a totally different conversation if he had spent all his years working on just that.

1:35:08I'm just saying that he has done R &B and he's nowhere close to R. Kelly. No, I'm going off. I'm just saying as an artist. As an artist and what you bring to the table and artists and people coming to you for a hit, then think about all the hits he wrote for people. But that's like using R. Kelly's rapping and comparing it to Drake's. I was going to say. Drake is the better rapper than R. Kelly. R. Kelly rapped too. But the whole foundation of Drake's success is he is a multi-genre, R &B-infused rapper. He's a rapper that was singing his own looks. You guys are talking about numbers and sales.

1:35:37I'm not. I'm not talking about numbers and sales. I'm talking about artistry. Who's a better singer? No, better everything. Artistry. But we already isolated a shitload of things that Drake is better at. He's not better at writing. He's not better at producing. I think he probably is. He's definitely not better at writing than R. Kelly. But you have no idea what R. Kelly wrote and what he didn't write. Yes, we do. You can look it up right now. Look up what R. Kelly wrote. We know what he wrote for other people. If it wasn't for the fact that Drake got exposed. Think about Aaliyah. Okay, but if it wasn't exposed at one point that Drake had somebody write some verses for him, then nobody would know that about him and people would think about him just like every other rapper.

1:36:15I'm not denying that R. Kelly's a great writer. I'm just saying that R. Kelly probably had shitloads of songs written for him just like any other R.M.R. as well. But think about Aaliyah. R. Kelly is Aaliyah. Well, no, just for her first record when she was 15 years old. And he never worked with her again. Well, yeah, then after that, she was working with Timbaland. She was working with Missy Elliott. She had an insane team. A four-page letter is who? That is... That's one of her bigger songs. I believe that's Kel's. Age ain't nothing but a number is very notable. Rock the Boat, I think, is going on.

1:36:50That is awful. Oh, shit. Guess what? Crit Mac got in an argument with Adrian Broner. That's what I'm going to bring up so we can stop having this boring-ass conversation. But R. Kelly, Crit Mac confronts Adrian Broner at a stream. This is super hip-hop. This is a great clip.

1:37:09We can't do a greatest of all time type argument. No, no, no. You got a clip for this? Yeah. Because I didn't think he... it's yeah well crib mac confronts ab and then ab really like stands on business and kind of makes it clear that he doesn't give a fuck it's pretty intense actually we kind of marked the program out all right check it out

1:37:40and he keeps saying he fucking his baby mama this nigga weird as fuck okay

1:37:48The thing about fucking a baby mama is like a separate conversation that was going on at the same time. Crip Mac's basically yelling in his face. And the reason why he's yelling is because, uh, uh, what was it? Adrian Broner said that Crip Mac fights like he's like a cripple was his words. So Crip Mac was mad about that. He wanted to stand on business, but he does relent pretty quickly. Once Adrian Broner stands up for himself. All that purping you been doing bro Man, AB stream on your own I don't care about none of that bro I don't gangbang You just said bro Bro, AB you just said it was all good What's going on bro I ain't never did nothing to you, why you got people in the game?

1:38:30What's up bro? You know what you say? I keep squabbling in the cripple Mom, what you say that? What I say? I keep squabbling in the cripple Yeah, bro. You gotta learn to yourself. Be fancy, see? I'm gonna chill in and out all the time. I'm looking at you know what you're doing. I'm looking at you and I'm looking at you squabble in the name of me. But I can teach you, bro. I'm just telling you. You get mad at me because I'm telling the truth. Yo shit ain't right, gang. It's like, damn, why you? Why could I hate me, though? You don't hate you If we brothers They wouldn't even They wouldn't even went to the Because when he's saying all that for Knowing I ain't even fucked though I'm telling you the truth bro What I'm saying is this though bro You gotta learn how to really get down bro That's all I'm saying bro But for the record He goes from like you said that I Fight like a cripple and he's like Mad and then this is like Two minutes later and Adrian Burner's saying you gotta learn to fight and Krip Max is like yeah yeah it's kinda like just accepting it it's right after and if you wanna come to the gym I got you bro so what you saying is it's all love how can I beef with a nigga I don't know I never said nothing about him I said y 'all shake hands sorry no no no see see see see see see i'm a i'm a grown man gang i'm a grown creep and i'm looking and i'm a grown that's right i mean okay how do we feel about that like is crib mac in the right is ab in the right like i mean what's your initial reaction he stood on business i feel like he didn't he didn't alter anything he said like yeah i don't think he had like ever had a problem with crit mac for real he just i guess was criticizing his fights and said he i guess the direct quote was he fights like a cripple um and then crit mac confronted him on it and he said yeah i did say that did he confront him or when he's saying crit mac he confronted him because of what he heard him crit mac got in his face walked to adrian broner and was like adrian broner sitting down crit mac walked up to him like what's up basically like what's up with what you said about me then adrian broner stands up and they face to face and adrian broner's kind of doing a lot of this you know what i mean like showing him that i'm not being aggressive but i'm also going to tell you the truth and Krip Mac kind of throughout the conversation simmered down a little bit with how he approached the situation okay do y 'all think that Krip Mac believe that he actually have a squabble I think the fact that he has lost like the vast majority of the confrontations that he's gotten into over the last couple of like the last year I guess it's probably like pretty hard to deny that at a certain point because even when he says when he's telling him like you don't know to fight or you need to learn to fight Crip Mac's response is I do what I gotta do in the county jail.

1:41:35He just basically says like I've been to jail mad times and I fought in jail and he's kind of saying like yeah like I get that and that's respectable but that doesn't mean you know how to fight. I saw a clip of Crip Mac and Rampage you should probably watch that too but Rampage is like teaching him to punch and Rampage is so frustrated and annoyed by Crip Mac like not being able to punch the bag the right way he's telling him not to push it and Krip Mac every time he hits it he's just like pushing it so hard and uh yeah I mean but what I will say is he lost that fight against Butterbean Jr. and now he seems like he's taking it a lot more serious but he also took another L yeah I know and I got that clip on deck too okay I think Krip Mac's feelings was a little hurt by maybe what Agent Broner said he was bothered by that shit Do you think it's somewhat affecting the general perception of him at a certain point?

1:42:33Don't you feel like Adam, at first, a lot of people were kind of intimidated by CritMac? Yeah, and I think that's the problem, is that he probably could have got a big payday to fight at some point, and instead he kind of like did it for free or cheap, and now the market is like more fucked up, you know? I don't know if people were intimidated by CritMac. That's why I was waiting on my turn. Go ahead, my bad, go ahead. Maybe you guys with your like insider knowledge would not have been intimidated by him. But I definitely think that people thought that he was going to be a better fighter than he actually ended up being.

1:43:06Yeah, I don't mean like other gang members. I mean, just regular citizens that aren't involved in that life at all. I think that there is a certain accent that his face tats and just his aura carried that made him seem like, oh, shit, I don't want to fuck with this dude because he might hurt me or have me chipped or some shit. So I think that was part of the appeal of him to a degree. Yeah, I think there's definitely a factor. I mean, do you think that he would be as popular if he was just like some tiny ass dude that acted the same way? Or is the fact that he's big guy, big dude and all that?

1:43:42I think everything adds to what he is. So the persona of Krimack, everything that he is lines up perfectly. So I told you in Moose Man what it was. It's the tattoo. a lot like that that's like like a brandon the eye buster yeah it's kind of like six nine with the rainbow hair you know if it's nine never had the hair nobody would have cared it's the whole package though it's the face tattoo it's the fact that he's a big ass guy it's the crazy voice it's the ridiculous catchphrases it's the fact that he like in his first interviews was talking about uh fighting so much and fighting in prison and stuff you know it's like a lot of different things that would have led somebody to believe that he was a good fighter because let's throw it back to when we were sitting here with Brick Baby when Brick Baby first got into an argument and Brick Baby did the big reveal of saying hey I lied and I told the people that you were squabbling with everybody and I didn't include the fact that you were losing to everybody Brick Baby when he said that we hadn't really heard that before that was like news to us people was mad on On social media at Brick Babies, you said, why you lying, Brick?

1:44:53Yeah, that was bad neighborhood shit. No, no, not the neighborhood. When he was, like, co-signing CritMac lies. Like, people, like, was adding him, like, bro, for real, Brick? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, the blood niggas that's cool with him and shit, like, you out of line. But this is pre him, like, getting fed up. Well, I think, like, a lot of the appeal of CritMac is the dichotomy. is like the kind of contradictory things where it's like, oh, this dude looks really intimidating, but he likes cats. Like, no one gives a fuck that I like cats because I kind of look like I like cats. But if you see this dude who's like a big gang member with 5 '5 tatted on his face and killa and all this shit on his face, it kind of makes it more interesting.

1:45:37But then when you kind of remove that veil of intimidation, it kind of hit different. Well, when you hit your ceiling, right, you hit your ceiling of what you are as the character that you play, right? and you hit the ceiling, there's only so much that that character can do. And then as you're falling down, that's a humbling experience. And it's like, fuck, like I got the most out of what this was. Now what else is there to you? You know what I mean? And like he has, that's why I keep saying the pivot has to come because that aura or whatever you guys said about him is kind of gone. Or he winds up training and actually gets a crazy ass guavlin charge.

1:46:15Beating shit down. He has to train out of his mind first off to get in shape. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not saying it's impossible, but right now it's like you have to become who you really are. Like you have to. And then like approaching Adrian Broner, like you said, I fight like a cripple. Everybody is saying his fighting skills are lacking. That's not something like surprising. Yeah. But it's surprising to him because now it's like, oh, shit. people were laughing at me, not laughing with me. But it's probably not actually that surprising to him because he actually knows how many fights he's had.

1:46:55None of us have any idea what the real number is, but I'm guessing that if he's honest with himself when he closes his eyes at night, that he knows that he probably took a lot of damage. I know these people, and they're smaller guys, bro. It's funny because a million people could say that, oh, I suck at rapping and I won't care, but if Kendrick's like, yo, you suck. You actually, like, you rap like a retard. That'll hit different. You know what I mean? AB's an actual squabbler. He's respected. Yeah, that's the problem. AB is, like, so qualified to tell someone if they're good at fighting or not.

1:47:30It's like you just have no ability to argue with them at all. That's why it is different. And you can see, like, Krip Mac, I don't know. It didn't seem like, even though he did have, like, his intimidating face on or whatever. I don't feel like he really wanted smoke like that even from the beginning. But how do you... Like, okay. This guy's correcting us. You can't intimidate. He's saying, y 'all tripping. C-Mac tried to shake AB's hand and AB said, don't try to shake my hand and what's up with y 'all, that shit you was talking about. So he pressed the issue more than Crip Mac did. That's what I thought.

1:48:00Okay. I didn't see that in that video. It was hard because... It's kind of hard to hear him because Ray J is talking over him and shit. No, Dane got... I think he mic'd up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it didn't show AB going up to him. like crib mag walked up to him yeah yeah he's like he heard he was talking crazy on the internet about whatever abs said but he is the it's the eye and hand coordination he ain't what sucks though is that crib mag right now is in kind of the same position that i'm in which is like you you can't really talk credibly about fighting because the world has seen you lose like for me they saw me lose one fight for him they've kind of seen him lose a bunch of fights so it's like the world and i know because i see the comment section every time that i say anything about fighting even if it's me trying to talk objectively about somebody else's fighting ability the world wants to let me know adam you can't fight which is fine but when you're crit mac and that's like a big part of your identity like for me I don't give a fuck it's like I did a fucking fight as a joke that a bunch of retards took way serious more serious than they should have but with Krip Mag he can't just like separate that from his identity like it's a big part of who he is and what his name was kind of built on was the idea that he was this hard dude I know people think I'm crazy for this right and I could tell you where to help him go ahead give him basketball and have him dribble from this side of the court to that side of the court this side because he have no hand coordination bro never commit suicide drills no they do call them suicide but I'm talking about the basketball I bet you he'll look crazy trying to dribble a basketball I could bet any kind of money and Adam will have to pay up this time get this nigga a basketball his footwork will be off and all kind of stuff the reason why I have very much decided conclusively that I'm not gonna fight again is because when I really objectively look at the things that I'm good at in life I'm just like not good at fighting or the or the kind of thing that is fighting which is like really fast reflex hand-eye coordination there's a punch coming for you you have literally like a quarter of a second to duck out of the way i mean that's hard shit if you're not like designed for that you know that's tough shit and it really actually makes me think about all throughout my life when i first started doing mma i was so much more drawn to the jiu-jitsu side of things and the grappling than the striking because I just don't feel like I have that super fast reflex thing.

1:50:29And even with the bike riding thing, I never wanted to fucking 360 or 10 stair. I wanted to ride the flat ledges or the curbs or whatever, shit that was a little bit more low to the ground, safer, and still managed to get a shitload of injuries while being relatively safe with it. Now, do I think that I might be more physically capable or coordinated than Krip Mac? I would say he's much stronger. that might be a good squabble people do keep pointing that out unfortunately I've retired but I'm just saying I think if Krivmag were to really objectively look at his skill set he would probably be forced to conclude like oh maybe fighting isn't the thing for me but it's also he can't just say that because as a gang member and especially one like him who's really put himself out there it's like you kind of have to like do this thing so the main thing with him is he needs to just consistently train for a long time.

1:51:26But wait, though. You may not know how to fight as a gang member, but if you are fighting, there's respect there. You're not running from some shit, and you're not avoiding some shit. If you have enough heart to know you ain't got no skills and still go out there and throw them up and chunk them, then there's still a respect there. But in the gang world, but unfortunately we're not. Yo, there's a fucking pop-up that keeps going that I'm hearing. we're not in the gang world so it's like he's being judged by like the whole world yeah so right now I think it's a good place for him to like actually accept this position right now and be like okay I am going to train with Rampage and Adrian Broner and I think there's enough people that actually like Krip Mac as a person like they want him to win and they're rooting for him that they could get behind him and he could build out of that like okay I'm going to get serious with this shit I'm going to get my shit together and almost like a whole character rebuild you know what I mean like to get out of the comedy into cause now I thought he was supposed to be fighting somebody serious right now too I don't think he has oh well Jeff Favre if he cares about having in any way like a respectable fight record he should not do that fight right cause like he already beat him in jail I don't know why it would be any different in a boxing ring tip top shake but to reals bro he didn't even fight back.

1:52:50Really with Jab. From what we hear? Is that the lore? And then Jab 5 got on top of him and continued to pound him out while he was on the ground. Pause. But I mean, the one thing that Krip Mac has as a huge advantage over Jab 5 is the height. But apparently that doesn't really matter. And probably the weight too. Don't matter. I mean, the height normally would be a huge advantage. But it seems like that's been neutralized. The height is advantage if you keep somebody at bay. If you can use your reach. If you can use your reach. But if a Jap 5, who is a fighter, is getting up underneath your shit and throwing hooks, it's easy as a short dude to knock out a tall dude that can't fight.

1:53:29I'm trying to picture Rampage watching Krip Mac fight Jap 5 and how he's going to feel. I feel like he's not going to be too happy about it. You don't think his tutelage is going to pay off? Hey, no. Jap 5, not Jap 5, Krip Mac don't have to fight if he stay out of jail. Well, he needs money. And I think this is probably one of the best ways for him to get money. I hate seeing him lose like this. You know what I mean? I don't like it. Help him, nigga. But now... Help him, nigga. Anytime my homie was getting whooped on, nigga, back in the days, I'm hopping in. But he wants the jab fight. Krimack for sure could get some fights that he would have a way better chance of winning.

1:54:11Jab fight is a fight that he has almost no chance. Like, really, I'll bet almost everything I have on jab fight. So this is all Krip Mac got is just fighting now, you guys? I don't think so. That's all he can do is just fight people? Well, what else is there? There's rapping. Spotify said he hard. At rapping? Whatever. We can never listen to him again. And then there's YouTube, streaming. He could do that, but historically, I don't know. He could do interviews, but that market is kind of smaller than it used to be, and it's not really like you could do No Jumper maybe once a month. Man, if he was on like a while and out type show, I could see him as like a character actor.

1:54:51He could definitely get some legs. There's so much shit. Like, I don't know. If he doesn't pivot, if he stays in his character, he could do a Crip Mac read nighttime bedtime stories. Yeah, literally. In terms of really actually making money, though, like how big is that market for him? I don't know. Set time stories. Sorry. Bro, the other day my kid randomly said free brick baby. I love it. I couldn't believe it. Did she get that from hearing it from you? She must have. But I was talking, because a family, friends of ours, they had a baby, and Lena keeps holding the baby. And she was making a joke about how she wanted to keep the baby.

1:55:28And I just go, ooh, free baby. And my kid just goes, free break baby. I couldn't believe it. And I started laughing so hard, and Lena's just looking at me, just like, don't laugh that hard. She's going to keep saying this if you laugh that hard. That's a great line to push Free Brick, not the trick I don't know man, Crit Mac I don't know what the future is but If fighting is it Then go ahead and take it serious and get with AB And you got some real dudes That's actually saying that they're willing to help you You know what I mean, like It's not like you're gonna be worse after Rampage helps you Alright, peep this, put the screen on camera Pretty sure this is the clip of Rampage teaching him how to punch That's when you get off You get off balance Off callence.

1:56:13Off callence. Off callence. Crip. Okay. I want you to jab and turn it and bring it back to your face. That's all I want to see. I'm hearing it again. No! I did it wrong. You did it wrong. Hit it. Don't push the bag. I'm not pushing it. You're pushing the bag! You're pushing the damn bag! Make that noise. Ha! Yeah! No, bring it back. Yeah! Ha! Yeah. No snap. Yeah. He's not putting his body into it. I don't know. Yeah. Left. Throw that hook Throw that hook Yeah throw that hook It feels me when you scream Throw that hook Yeah look it's a red cusp Elbow cut You can't do that Don't practice elbows That's your shit Alright you call me Coach Rampage today Coach Rampage Rampage put no effort into that The fact that he Like bro I'm not saying I'm a good puncher but I understand what you're trying to do when you punch.

1:57:14And the fact that he was so resistant to being corrected there makes me think not only that he doesn't have the raw talent right now, but that also he's going to be hard to teach because he doesn't seem like he's picking up what Rampage is saying there. Well, I think it's difficult for him to focus, right? He doesn't have anything beyond just the physicality. He seems like he's having a hard time. And also being on camera is probably not the best time because he's very aware of the camera, so he's playing too. I don't think he'd be hitting the scene, Nasty, and all that if there wasn't a camera.

1:57:45Maybe he'd need to focus on wrestling. He would probably do a lot better. Yeah, he'd do a lot better because he'd need to jump rope and dribble a basketball, bro. That's what he'd need to do, bro. It's harder when you're older to develop a hand-eye coordination. Watching that is like trying to watch somebody learn how to ride a bike that's never rode a bike before. Have you ever tried to teach somebody how to ride a bike? Yeah. Like that shit, like just the basics of shit is just like, it's not even going in their head. Just like, the fuck are you doing? Like, don't do this. And it's like, you want to yell and get mad, but it's like, oh, you have no fucking foundation of what to do with this.

1:58:21Well, it's like, you ever seen those movies back in the day or like cartoons where an alien comes and invades the planet and like inhabits a human body, but doesn't know how to walk? Yeah. That's kind of what it reminds me of. Hey, man. He'll figure it out. I hope so. Before it's too late. I think he should not fight Jap 5. That's probably not. That's not going to happen. You see all the people that's a part of his collective, they mad that he even entertaining it. Yeah. I don't know why he would do it. Because they don't want to be embarrassed. I mean, isn't Jap 5 known as one of the colder squabblers around type shit?

1:58:55He has a really good reputation. I've heard. Okay, Jap 5 has had multiple interviews where he speaks in depth about fighting and especially fighting in prison and how dominant he was in there. I don't think I've ever heard anybody question that he was that good at fighting in prison. And then on top of it, from just looking at him, he's probably the most buff gang member that I know of at this time. Granted, he's very short, but he's just in unbelievable shape. He's like an action figure. I'm pretty sure he doesn't smoke or drink too. But his faculties though. Yeah, and he's smart. faculties about like if you watch your interviews or watching me interviews the way he's talking and the way he's is just a completely different story you know i mean like the dude has is not in the same category anywhere with that guy yeah i mean i don't know if it i don't know all like the the jail slash prison ya lore but i know that um there is talks about like him versus four extra i don't know if it actually happened or if it was gonna happen or something that sounds like way more even type shit i mean think about crit mac versus four extra if he still had his hand four extra would have destroyed him the fact that jap five he said he dominated for extra in that or no no no four extra won the fight but jap said that he had just fought two people before so it wasn't actually fair so that would be an amazing fight that we'll never get to see besides ai hopefully not yeah Yeah.

2:00:33Well, I mean, do you think that Forexra, in his current condition, would still whoop out Critmec? Yeah. Realistically? I think so. I don't even say that to diss him at all, but I just feel like Forexra probably got that. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's an unfair assessment. Do you want to see this unbelievably brutal training footage of Critmec, too? So, he's boxing with a professional boxer. I believe he's a professional named Arnold Barboza. and in this clip Cribmack kind of like empties the tank on him goes full street fight on him hits him mad times doesn't do any damage and then Arnold Barboza just hits him with one hit that just drops him it's pretty funny it's more of a street fight than a boxing fight you just know he's a trained man oh

2:01:33god damn what'd he say he's hating on his girl yo but he I saw other footage from this where he was dissing Trey's like to her like he called her the T word and shit like basically was dissing her hood which granted like He has always done that, but you haven't seen him do that to her. So that was pretty crazy. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. But that's just crazy to think that they get in fights and diss each other's hoods. But I wonder if she uses the N-word with him. Well, he was saying, get your son. I want your son up out my house. Like they were getting into it. For some reason, she was like, don't talk to me like that or stop talking to me like that.

2:02:22He's like, well, I want your son. I've been telling you I want you and your son out my house or some shit. I was confused by it. but that's the thing with Krimack is that he, like as soon as he gets in a fight with a girl, he starts like burning the whole thing down. Like he just will basically like, he almost like does it like too quickly. Like he'll, he'll basically like start saying that like, yeah, like, like one time he got in a fight with this girl and then he starts telling me that, oh great. Now Adam, now I need to move out of my house. And I'm like, you think that you need to move out of the house because of the fight that You just got in over the phone?

2:02:58I guarantee it's not that serious. Well, he's used to dealing with really volatile women and the confrontations escalate really quick. You probably don't want to go back to that. Bro, he didn't even say that, though, bro. He brung up Tania, and he thought that the girl's going to be mad. He said, see, now I got to move out. And he told her and made her mad. And I was like, bro, we could have just edited the podcast. It wasn't live. We'll just edit it and not put it out. He's like, well, I already told her. I'm like, oh, wow, that's really not my fault. yeah i guess there's i i think because he he seems a lot more together than he might be in certain areas when it comes to like you said earlier faculties and awareness that uh we're kind of seeing the full extent of it and lack thereof at this point hey maybe he just needs some people like and i'm not even a fan like that or of you know what i mean for certain but he just needs some people that give a fuck about him for real that really want him to win around him because I feel like this is just not going nowhere good.

2:03:54Well, it seems like Lupe chose 4Xtra. Maybe it was a smart move. How? They ain't doing shit. Like chose him as like a boyfriend? No, not boyfriend, but just like in general. Oh, okay. Just doesn't really seem like you see Lupe hanging out with Kermak that much because I think he's like a lot wilder and like harder to control, whereas like 4Xtra is kind of chill in comparison. like 4X might be a little wild but he's kind of just going to like show up and do what you want him to do he's not that difficult to like wrangle when it comes to business and stuff but I ain't nobody checking for 4X yeah but CritMac has a little bit of that problem too right nah CritMac is everywhere though CritMac is here here here here and there do you think that what do you say that CritMac is more visible at the current time yeah he's definitely more famous yeah that's true because he's letting himself get knocked out on stream but I actually laughed at CritMac before I never laughed at 4Xers I never heard nothing funny from I got some laughs out of CritMac 4Xers is funny but CritMac is hilarious give me a joke bro give me like a video I mean saying Adams in and of itself is damn his speech yeah the way he says things you can't give him so much credit for the dumbest shit ever I mean but they're two different entities like one is that and one is the other end of the spectrum One is like a full-blown bully.

2:05:17For sure. And then the other one is... Pretending to be one. Yeah. And then the other one is just... Well, Critmac's more of a character. Yeah. By a significant margin. So that kind of, I guess, gives him more shelf life in that regard. How long do you expect those energies to last in this? People have a short attention span. Yeah, well, the internet moves fast. Moves fast. Like, okay, now we're done. Now we're done with this energy. where's the blood that's like him where's the essay that's like him now we're done with the Chris and we want to move on it's like they've got their taste he's just so he was yeah but he still is it's just kind of like the people demand more to keep it interesting like did you see the clip of him dancing at the rave see that's what I love just when I thought that it was wearing off and like damn like what is he going to do to go viral I see the clip of him at the rave and I'm just like oh yeah I see a dance hey when he came up the other day I was thinking I said man they need to put him in a dance contest that's what I was thinking the other day when his name came up and you said he was dancing in a rave that's crazy but that is the thing about Krip Mag too is that it's like he realistically is very very entertaining and funny and interesting to people outside of his culture you know and like like the channel 5 video with him going to the Slipknot concert was like one of the best things you ever seen just cause it was so funny and interesting to see him at a mosh pit you know even him at your bmx gym exactly yes like he can go anywhere him at the rave people love him at the rave because it's just funny as hell to see him in this environment that he wouldn't normally be in and then in comparison though it feels like he's kind of like going in the wrong direction where it's like oh now let's go to the hoover parking lot let's go well that's a regression that's going and the thing is people aren't surprised to see him in those environments because that's what people think of him they're tired of that yeah no ain't nobody expecting to pull up in that parking lot bro no no i don't mean specifically like that's very a rival neighbor i'm saying in a hood scenario him amongst other gang members or in areas that gang members frequent as opposed to him at a rave where there's nobody from his demographic over there or that looks or sounds or acts remotely like him that's kind of what the appeal is fish out of water syndrome and that's why once again I feel like his content with Chinamack was probably some of the best shit that he did but the only problem with that it was relying on another person all his content relying on another person but the other person just has to be like it's Amos and Andy they just have to be normal though like they don't really have to be like a star Chinamack's not a star he's just a regular guy it's like you know it's kind of the same way where like me and his energy when we do interviews is good because it's like I'm pretty normal and he's crit mac but the one thing I will say though that makes it challenging is that like lately when I interview him it feels like he doesn't want to talk at all about like a lot of the stuff that's actually going to get views that like would be pretty obvious to ask about and then he's just not really like lively or as like funny as he used to be and it's like I get it because I know he's like kind of he feels he really really has to hustle to make ends meet and he's got a lot of like bad shit kind of going on in the background i'm pretty sure like negative stuff so he doesn't necessarily like want to get on camera and just open up but it's kind of like bro like this darker version of you is not that fun to interview with you for me yeah for you or with you because because because i'm telling you that little clip on vlad told me a lot he he don't like that you fuck with me bro and he brung up j-hug yeah but you got mushy beat painted by her jay hook i'm like what the fuck did i have to do with anything he said oh you still had no jumper you but that honestly was him just like kind of creating reasons out of thin air to like say that because he was just frustrated at that point because i hadn't called him back for almost two months to do an interview and it was because i just felt like it was getting kind of dry getting kind of slow and then i did the interview with him and once again i was like god damn this feels a little slow this is a little dry like he's just not really like being like as entertaining as used to be you know and but coming from his perspective is Adam doesn't call me anymore and he's hanging out with Munchie multiple times every week yeah imagine you have a new song a new album and people are asking you to continue to sing the song from 10 years ago yeah you know what I mean like it's like but it should be so easy though like his alright think about his funny ass moment of like finding out Lil Nas X is gay that shit was funny like I feel like if he was open enough, it wouldn't be that hard to have that kind of moment pretty frequently.

2:09:55But this is also like Memphis Bleak getting mad at Jay-Z when he was hanging out with J. Cole and Drake. Who knows about this? Memphis Bleak getting mad at Jay-Z for hanging out with him? It would be equivalent to that. It'd be like the people that used to that he was rocking with before getting mad at that. That's a hypothetical. No, no, no. No, yeah. It's completely hypothetical, but that's just kind of what it reminds me of. It's like, okay, you've moved on. You're doing other things. And at this point, his career is kind of reliant on that infusion, whereas you don't necessarily need it to the same degree, or do you feel like you do?

2:10:35Well, I would like to be able to, like, for a while there, we were doing an interview every two weeks with Krimack before he went to prison. And then, like, now I just don't know if I got a full interview every two weeks. Maybe. Honestly, I would like to do that, but he was just kind of have to like come with a little bit more the one i just did i'm supposed to always hit two hours with him like that's our deal it's like we're gonna hit two hours and that one i just did is like an hour 26 and it would have been shorter but he hit me up asking me to delete a bunch of shit out of it and guess what i left him on red because i ain't deleting that shit and uh some of it was the jab five stuff he wanted to take it out i'm like bro i'm not taking out like probably one of the most interesting things that you said in the whole thing like i'm not gonna just cut out 15 minutes of shit just so that it like just because you like regret something you said on camera or whatever like it's it's just kind of i don't know it's hard to get the full you know because it's like he's limited it's like you can't talk about q50 with him like we did but it was rough because the fuck does he know about q50 no uh but what what maybe if you transitioned into interviewing him in a different way like not like the not interviewing him as like the same crit mac that was the viral like as a psychologist no like as how do you feel now that you're not viral anymore.

2:11:45You're asking him some... He's still viral, though. But not like he used to be. I think you could get a good interview out of him if you got a little bit more serious with him. That sounds so depressing and sad. I feel you, though. There's something there, but that's like 15 minutes. Then you're going to have to figure out something else to talk about. I don't want to be disrespectful, though. Miramar. It's not sounding promising. It's not sounding promising. I'm like, why would his mama take a picture with Jab 5? She was working as the waitress at a restaurant in Vegas, and Jab 5 came in and basically, like, said hi to her and was nice to her and didn't, you know, suggest it.

2:12:26That was a long time ago, too, right? A couple years ago. Before he whipped his ass. But I'm saying she asked to take a picture with him, and she brought it to the scene. She's like, oh, yeah, you beef with my son. I guess, yeah. I assume they had the conversation about the beef and then took the picture. She's a super nice lady. Nice thing Very sensitive Cool chill lady I know that's what I'm saying Yeah that's a tough one You don't think maybe She was trying to like Squash the beef I think she was probably in her head she was She knows she can't do that bro I mean Probably in her head she was You know I've sat down I've done interviews with Mama Bear before and she's an awesome person.

2:13:11Shouts to her. I remember her basically saying in the interview that we did that she was very supportive of her son and she knew that he was super passionate about gangbanging and that's what he's into. So, I mean, she would basically give him rides to the set and drop him off when he was young. What did I do with Broker and Peace? Well, okay. I say that to say that she might not have as clear of a perspective as you think if she thinks that that's acceptable in any capacity yeah yeah that's you see what i'm saying that's why i was even reluctant to even try to like yeah yeah yeah like but but that's not like a critique of her i just think that she might not have an understanding of the gravity of the whole thing do you have a good interview with crit mac yeah but like i think i totally could have a good interview with crit mac but i but i understand like what adam's talking about doing a new interview every two weeks and having it'd be super engaging would it get the same numbers as the first one that would be incredibly difficult i mean i did i did three interviews with them and they got progressively less views you know i feel like the thing with me and kryp mac too though is that like our interviews are kind of their own thing because we've just got such a history that it's like there's so much stuff that we don't have to talk about because we already know each other very well so that just kind of leaves us with current events and i i guess really i should just have a talk with them because the truth is is that i never give him any kind of coaching but i could probably like coach him into like this is what i need from you for two hours to make this interview better and maybe he would like understand that because like when we sit down the last one it kind of felt like i was just like sitting down with him and i was trying and he was just kind of like letting me talk and he wasn't trying and that's just like not gonna really work for that long you know hypothetical scenario did he drink it rear he was drinking a little bit but it was early he wasn't drunk.

2:15:03Let's say there was an interview with Krip Mac that you did and it was just Trevor. It was not no changing letters or no... You're saying you wish there was? No, if there was. I don't know if he got that in him. Do you think that would be engaging to people? Do you think people would be tuned into that? But that's what people always ask me. Is there a version of Krip Mac that we're not exposed to? As far as I know, not really. There's the more extreme version of him on camera sometimes, but even baseline chill crit mac is still pretty like you've seen that version of him on camera and it's way less turned it's way more turned down than like a lot of the other stuff you've seen but it's still him but is there a version in which he talks like Steve from accounting no that doesn't happen that would probably go up if I could put on a shiesty mask and change my voice I'll ask him a whole different line of questions because you don't use that type of verbiage in jail you don't say the who would this word every other word.

2:16:02You don't talk like that. To be fair, he's pretty much been saying a lot of that since I met him. Not always on camera. He used to not say it on camera. People do alter their dialogue depending upon who they're with and what scenario they're in. If you walk around dissing like that, just walking through the county jail, you a bad motherfucker. It ain't being done. They always tell me about how he almost had some tuna fades while he was locked up. We talked about it on the Blindly and the Blonde. Yeah, I watched it, but he didn't identify. He did. He said their names on where they was from. Oh, yeah, okay.

2:16:40But there was another guy. From Avalon, from Hoover. He had a couple of different situations where he thought he was going to have to fight some gang members and really run some fades, but then they ended up being like, nah, you cool. But Bell got stupid hands. He'll probably beat the shit out of a lot of people that wouldn't expect it. And he probably also knows that that's probably not going to go so well in there. It turned into a packout. Yeah, that's all bad. Damn that would fuck me up To see Vail get packed out Not to see it But to know it happened To hear about it That sucks that somebody Just standing up for themselves And standing on bids Would lead to them Getting packed out But I guess politics No one's bigger than the program As they say right No bitch It's bigger than the program Hey but guess what I don't believe in Fucking what Non-affiliates Cause they ain't from nowhere You know what I'm saying Like I ain't never been On no shit like that I mean it's some bully shit Non-affiliate Fighting like Making some niggas That don't gangbang Fight for entertainment Like you know what I'm saying like that shit ain't never been entertaining to me I got a tear full of ops that's bully shit you feel me straight up I mean hey bro yeah it's gladiator school that's a mark sheet I want to ask you guys about this one so Vlad and Boosie had their falling out which was initially about Boosie trying to get paid more for interviews he already was pretty much the most highly paid guy getting interviewed in the whole of the culture tried to ask for more.

2:17:57Vlad had said he couldn't do it. Boosie hung up on him. They started disrespecting each other. It was going back and forth. Then recently, Boosie it comes out that he had paid$600 to a lobbying firm. $600 ,000. $600 ,000, yeah, that were going to attempt to get him a presidential pardon. It didn't work out. Now he claims that he's suing the guys that were supposed to be helping him. All this is going on and along the way as Vlad keeps talking about him more and more, Boosie starts getting more and more frustrated more and more fed up and tells him that you know he thinks he's a piece of shit calls him out on social media or whatever which leads to Vlad now throwing his hat in the ring as a snitch exposer and according to Vlad Boosie is now a verified snitch let's take a look at the accusations that Vlad was making I have the Gemini overview pulled up right here so that we won't have to watch the whole clip of Vlad breaking it down but basically Vlad is calling Boosie badass a hypocrite and a snitch after pulling up court documents from Boussey's federal gun case in San Diego, called Dago, that allegedly show the rapper shifting responsibility for his firearm onto his security guard.

2:19:07According to Vlad, paper from the arrest indicates that Boussey told federal agents that the guns belonged to or were in the possession of his security detail, contradicting his long-standing outspoken public stance as an advocate for strict no snitching codes. Boosley has strongly denied the claims, firing back at Vlad amid their ongoing feud over business and interview fallout. So basically, Boosley's shooting a music video in the hood in San Diego with some guys. He was paid I think 15k or 20k, something that realistically, Boosley doesn't need to be doing but Boosie's a hustler so he's out there in the field he does he had a security guard and at some point while shooting the video he puts a gun in his pocket I don't know if the gun belonged to the rappers they were shooting the video with or what but he ends up getting a gun he puts it in his back pocket he's shooting the whole music video at some point one of the guys who's there is on Instagram live captures Boosie with the gun on him the cops do a little search they realize that Boosie's a felon boop they come through they arrest him and so pretty quickly he starts saying that the gun is the security guards now I can kind of understand a lot of people thinking that this would not be that bad that this is him just like throwing it on the security guard because the security guard won't be able to get into trouble for it here's the thing as a security guard or even just as a guy with a concealed carry permit you are not allowed to just conceal and carry any old gun right you are allowed to conceal and carry like two to three guns that you have registered as your guns that are the only guns that you will be allowed to be out in public with so boosie trying to put this random ass gun on the security guard was never going to work this would be the security guard losing his security license and probably having his guns confiscated and being charged with a serious offense um so boosie doing that to the security guards kind of fucked up but To make it worse, once they get thrown into the cop car or whatever, and the cops can still hear him, Boosie starts threatening the security guard and telling him that he's basically going to get him killed unless he takes this gun charge.

2:21:28So, does this sound like snitching? To me, I don't really know how it's not snitching. Well, you're also leaving out the part where Boosie had a different version of the story prior to that. Oh, so explain that? Because it even said it right there, right? Boosie had initially, he didn't say that that's what he didn't say. He didn't say that he told them anything. Now, all of a sudden, Vlad is exposing the fact that you, in fact, did tell on the security guard or even mention it before. He didn't even, he said that he just kept his mouth shut, per my understanding. Do y 'all understand or you heard that?

2:22:04Per my, well, isn't that what it just said? No, I didn't hear that. I heard he, what are you ready? you got to put over and try to put it on the security. Yeah, but I don't know why Les is saying that we just read that. It doesn't say that right here, but I thought that was it. I mean, he told various different versions. So I'm pretty sure when he told the story on Vlad, he did not at all say like, yeah, I tried to put the gun charge on my security. You know, he wouldn't want to have said that. You know, he was trying to pass it off as if the security actually did have the gun at one point, you know.

2:22:35But either way, I mean, to me, I don't really know how like to me this is a devastating blow to the whole anti snitching movement I don't think he's I think he had an expectation that they would just eat the charge I don't think he snitched bro he had an expectation that you know what I'm saying he the bag and he assumed what would take it you know what I'm saying that's what I think and I'm also going to assume that the they were the security guards guns right nah man the one the security guard already already had a register he had a pistol so he had three switches how many bro but but but whatever good boozy had it ain't registered to the security guard but but i think he had an expectation that's what you know i'm saying that's what i think i mean that's pretty typical of like rappers and bosses in the game to think that your people are gonna take the charge for you and that's part of what you're getting paid for right yeah but that's not like okay when i hire a security guard i'm hiring a security guard to follow me around with his gun and if i do have my gun on me and i'm carrying it illegally which would be the case right now because i don't have my ccw yet then for sure i'm not thinking that the security guard is going to take the charge why would this like how would that even make sense in the eyes of the police once they run the security or the the the serial number on my gun and realize oh this is your gun nobody should have access to this gun besides you and now you're telling us that actually the security guard was carrying it for some reason like that would just not i mean this was this was a dude that um was facing life at one point was convicted already and was already in prison and uh had a dude a teenager who had already who had already like taken the blame then untook the blame and then had him take it again right isn't that how one of the reasons he got released to begin with i say had them take it well i mean i'm assuming that you think that was in communication or they was housed together what you mean i don't believe they were housed together but um why else would why else would he change his testimony i think i think oh the the dude told in the beginning then took you back okay so at first like he said like like like who's next bootsy or whatever like didn't he like and then he name dropped him in the song like oh marlo uh begging for a body or some shit right And then he took So at first he was gonna stand tall Then he didn't and then how did he wind up getting No no no I believe he was Fucking up in the beginning Then he switched it up And like stood on business like man You know what I'm saying And is that kid still locked up He ain't never coming home What's your tie in for that to this No I'm just saying like that's indicative of his character Of you know utilizing Other people and putting guns and charges On other people They didn't put no charge on that nigga That nigga was smacking shit What you talking about Yeah but I mean he's paying teenagers to do skits for him They sound bad It sounds bad He didn't beat those charges but also he almost certainly seems like he did them People do that a lot I understand that but I'm just That doesn't make it right I'm looking at the overall character How you put a case on somebody that did it Nigga that little nigga was a killer Yeah no for sure I mean I've seen it before but like it doesn't make it right and it doesn't i don't i never liked the predatory element of older people that are respected by youngins taking advantage of them and putting them to ruin their lives and get locked up forever have nothing going on older cats have nothing going on you ain't doing shit with your life you ain't putting nobody on you ain't got nothing happening as organization wise that's just you being a coward right on the kid but now if you are in a position of stature and you're you're the guy you know what i mean like hey go run that that bid real quick like but that but that incentivizes them to do it more that's almost like adds to your ability to be predatory yeah like you you're getting paid you're doing shit under me like you i'm the reason you're here and i understand this is all typical this is like literally the way gangs and structures like criminal criminal criminal organizations in general you used to be that send off yeah exactly but no that doesn't but i never was into that whole element of it i always thought that that was i kind of sad my question is is the security guard calling him a snitch great wow that is a really good question that's actually who vlad needs to talk to and if and if he ain't and if he ain't they gotta put that to risk bro because i think he had an expectation and then and that wasn't what it was you know i'm saying and did where did they find the gun on Boosie they found the gun on him in a car well they had the video evidence of it on him on Instagram live okay so that was one of the other dudes was live from the at the video shoot it was watching yeah it wasn't even Boosie live it was somebody else live and there were rumors for a while that the guy who was on Instagram live was actually working with the cops and had been doing that because they asked him to which I don't know if we actually have evidence of that but there's the start of course and of course whack put that out there and the dude was cleared of that oh was he yes like he's still in this community and say something like they like comes in was that a clubhouse narrative i think it was a whack narrative bro you didn't hear me bro whack yeah that's what i'm saying that's like you didn't hear him but he was clear to that and he he didn't have been to the feds his paperwork is clean his other like this is the security guard yeah like no not the security guard the dude he was on live oh the dude was filming it okay you know boosie in the hood doing the video recording boosie but he in the smaller boosie back he had a bling yeah and the police is already watching this dude because they own him yeah i just i wonder if boosie like i feel like as a felon you're shooting a music video in a front yard or something with a bunch of guys who have guns on them and stuff i feel like that might also violate your probation regardless of if you actually had one on you for sure so they might have tried to pull this trick regardless right it i don't know i don't depends on the stipulations yeah like like you uh you're supposed to be around or possess it everybody's stipulation is different you know man but that was definitely a misstep by boosie though for sure like that was that was stupid you know i mean that's like it honestly it feels kind of eerie the way that Boosie left Vlad and then it feels like nothing good has happened to him since and actually like this I mean this is actually directly from Vlad because Vlad has decided to put this out there to try to fuck his image up which is kind of crazy that's an alley-oop right but even like for who it was shot to Vlad of course it was an alley-oop yeah but I'm just saying like you know like everybody I don't know there's just so many bad things that have kind of happened to Boosie since all this shit started going down with Vlad and it just feels like if anything now Boosie has to like make his own positive narratives about himself like he's talking about I've been booked up for the last 27 weekends academics I make more money than you in a weekend and you make in a whole month and all this type of shit and it's just kind of like these are not like well sourced like we don't I don't know if that's true like everybody says Boosie makes so much money doing the strip clubs and shit and I'm like I believe they make some money doing that but I don't I don't see how you do it super consistently all the time there's only so many little cities in America that are going to be willing to pay you to go to the strip club right and haven't you been kind of maxing this out for like the last 20 years people love Boosie yeah for sure especially in the south like he has like how we like say like I don't know too short or E40 someone like that but Boosie as there he is people love him.

2:30:26You know what I mean? I don't know how much money he's making, but Boosie make an appearance. People love Boosie being that place. You know what part of Los Angeles is entrenched with Boosie? Watts. Compton, Watts in the east side of Los Angeles. Yeah, for sure. There's a whole Louisiana swag out there. Absolutely. East, south, central, Compton, and Watts. Absolutely. What was that argument I had with Spoonface or something? He was arguing that Boosie is more popular in LA than in Florida or something? I mean, I tried to compare him to somebody, and it was a dumb comparison, but I get what he was saying, but it was a dumb comparison.

2:31:01I forget who it was, though. In those areas, like, I know in Watts, like, in the projects and shit, he's like a fucking religion and all that shit. They love Trill Fam and all that out there. Yeah. South Central. Yeah. But the funny thing is, recently I was saying, Boosie is way past his peak as far as earning as an artist, and then a lot of people from the South hit me up and they're like, He gets paid. He's appearing at a different club every week. Now, I don't know if that bodes well or against my argument because if he was really at the top of his game, he would be priced out of having a necessity to do that.

2:31:37But at the same time, it shows that he still is bringing in income as an entertainer, as a performing artist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, per my understanding, and I think per most people outside of his specific region, he's the biggest as just an entity online at this point he's just like not really a content creator but just a character that makes appearances yeah personality thank you that's like the that's where he's peaking right now it's not as a rapper pools ain't check yeah he has this he has a personality but then he doesn't consistently make content right now and he after Vlad did like think about if Boosie had never done Vlad I feel like his fame would be so much less like his cultural importance would be so much less like those interviews were just kept him constantly in the front of people's minds because of those interviews and I'm not saying that it's exclusive to Vlad I do very much think that he could form this sort of relationship with somebody else but he apparently doesn't want to or hasn't tried very hard to because he did one interview with his son interviewing him or something it was trash none of the clips went viral he put it on Patreon he even put it on YouTube is insane.

2:32:49It's like the worst rollout of all time. And I just don't really like, he doesn't seem focused on it because he so easily could. You just need one person that could come up with good questions and sit there and ask you. They don't have to be as good as Vlad. They just have to know what questions to ask. It ain't that many options to be a reoccurring guest with. The only person I can think of is probably Sean Cotton. Me and Sean Cotton have both tried to pay Boosie to become a reoccurring guest on our podcast and he has essentially shut both of us down. I'm saying Bahui had a chemistry would like because like i mean academics don't gel well with street people unless they rejects and in ax words he doesn't has never paid anybody for an interview so that's gonna be i don't think he's gonna just start paying boosie 20k or whatever well if boosie was on more mainstream platforms like if he was going to breakfast club or something like that yeah if you but no if that was if he was solely relying on that he doesn't get the same clips out of that because it's it's a more mainstream audience he can't be as unhinged as he can on places like vlad he can't speak the same so there's really no better option for him how many more interviews can you do you know i mean like how many more of those can you do as an artist you've already pivoted from rapping you pivoted into doing interviews those current events that's why i was only interviewing him maybe every like three months because then they would have like enough topics built up to be able to actually have it be interesting whereas like you know if boosie had kept charging by 10k but i probably would interview him every month because like think about charleston white charleston white probably could do interviews for 20k he would just do way less charleston white bops around the country doing ten thousand dollar interviews and then he'll find a smaller platform that only got five for him or probably less and he'll do those ones for less or whatever and he'll do the comedy shows like i'm very inspired by charleston white because he kind of shows me what life is like if you just live your life on the go being willing to go wherever the bag is because think about there's only so many bags that i could get in la but as soon as you're willing to move around the country and fly wherever because charleston is not staying anywhere more than a couple days well then the the negative thing is and you can't build your own platform which for you is like the foundation of everything you could you just have to be smart about doing it mobily and you couldn't have like a cast around you like yeah not to the same degree or you'd have to be like way more relying on them.

2:35:08I believe if Boosie was paired off with another rapper, he could have his own podcast. Him and him and him and Webby could do it if they had the same deal that Jada and Joe had. Yeah, I mean like if he had somebody else to bounce off of. Him and Webby would gel well together. It'd be more like the Jim Jones. Jim Jones and they would need a couple. That's just kind of ass. That's the problem. I don't think they would be like fabulous. I mean like Jada Kiss. no no I said the same deal they got a deal and then they got Yayo and Uncle Murder they deal you know what I'm saying they got some type of little but see these are all problems like the fucking Jim Jones pod with Dave East and Fabulous and everything I've listened to that and it's just not enough like control of the room so they just end up going all these random ass tangents and like I feel like Jaden Joe is like sort of similar and like Boosie and Vlad was so good because Vlad knows exactly what what titles and what topics he wants and he just pulls it out of you and that's what made it so that boosie could get those numbers like as soon as boosie sat down with his son who has no clue what to ask him it was just like infinitely less interesting you know you know black out the structure he a moderator for sure yeah but uh these rappers turn pockets well yeah exactly one is one is because what makes vlad and boosie so good is because it's somebody that totally understands the dynamics of potting of content and then somebody that's just wild personality it's that also understands the other side of it right right it's a team thing um do you think the artist needs the platform more than the platform needs the artist when it comes to what though like what boosie do you think boosie needs the platform needs vlad more than vlad needs boosie i mean they both i mean vlad definitely doesn't need him since he's been gone for like a year and Vlad's like killing it right now.

2:37:04But yeah, I think Boosie needs him more because realistically Vlad was paying him more than like me or Sean Cotton were paying for interviews. And I don't think Boosie can do the interview thing on his own. He's kind of already shown that. Maybe he'll figure it out, but it's definitely not good now. So I don't know. I feel like Boosie needs Vlad more than Vlad needs Boosie. Some people need a machine, Marino. That is shit though. They don't mean that they know nothing. They need the machine. They just want to show up. Show up and go. But Boosie could form that relationship with other podcast hosts right now, and it would be pretty good.

2:37:36I don't see it going as successful as Vlad. Yeah. I think you and Sean Conn could do it, but who else? I can't think of nobody else. Well, you know how we've talked about several times on here how – I don't know if you've been in the combos, Adam, so I'm kind of curious to get your take about how Vlad is on this recent arc of becoming Dark Vlad, damn near in like an academics-esque bag, going bad on people and do you think that's because he's having a harder time getting guests or like he's not getting along with them so now he needs to be the centerpiece of the of the controversy himself i think he just realizes that by beefing with people there's not really much negative that can come from it right like you know in theory it could be bad for him but it isn't usually like you know he's beefing with young blue does anyone care no nobody cares he's beefing with boosie does anyone care i mean yeah there are like boosie affiliates that aren't going to sit down and do an interview with him.

2:38:32Sure. But I mean, realistically, like, especially cause he's like, came out looking good in so many of these, like, I think during early COVID when Vlad was getting like savaged by, you know, uh, all the different, you know, Muslim friendly personalities that turned their backs on him. Yeah. I think during that time period of Vlad basically felt like, Oh, I don't want to be Mr. Super opinionated because it's going to take away from my ability to do interviews. I'm better off if I just keep my opinions to myself and not make shit about me. And then now he's realizing like, oh, actually I can. And I can do a lot of views by responding to people.

2:39:10So why not? Stay away from religion. Right. So it's basically not, like say you, the no jumper. No jumper is the platform, but you see the value in pushing your own self as your brand, right? instead of just pushing no jumper. Like you have to push you, Adam 22, the 20V1s, just like your shit, the Jason Lee. And so Vlad is now pushing himself. You know what I mean? Not the platform, the interview platform. He's added to it the character. He's become a character within it, and it's like self-branding on your platform. And somewhere somebody is seeing the benefit and the value in becoming the character and having like having an opinion yeah but i i thought vlad like back in the day kind of was like off camera like not so much in front and now it's like he just got over that over time you know he just realized that's not like to me putting myself on camera from the very beginning was like a really good idea because that just made me more well known and it made it so that the audience was like gonna be like oh you're you're that guy from no jumper or whatever you know and like vlad it took a lot longer because so much of his content you can't see him but it kind of makes his content more universal because it's just a guy sitting in front of a background it's not necessarily like you know it's like the vlad clips look perfectly good in a documentary right the no jumper clips look okay in a documentary but it looks like you know them sitting with me and that's like a little bit less relatable whereas i feel like now uh you know and vlad has discussed that he's talked about just like being consistently on camera like trying that out and he decided not to i think but uh and i think that's probably a good idea but like think about me and vlad we both had the same idea which was let's do interviews and then basically like you know we're forced to look at somebody like ak and say and ak's idea was not oh let's do interviews his idea was i want to make the best content that i possibly can and i'm going to be the one with the ideas i'm going to be the one with the opinions and everything and i don't really need other people and like that has allowed act to basically become like the biggest content creator joe budden yeah he sits with a little panel of his homies or whatever but same deal it's like he doesn't need a guest and so i think like people like me and vlad kind of realize like oh so we can interview people but also we should probably like really seek to like be the best versions of ourselves on camera as well because that shit is so easy to do if you can get good at it you know right and it's it's a benefit there and like eventually do you think is the benefit there is it that like okay i want people to seek me out as well you know what i mean i want to be sought after for bigger opportunities or things like that like do you think that they're i mean if i if i if i do a clip talking about something and i get a million views or if i do an interview with charleston white and that gets a million views the only difference is that i gave charleston white a bunch of money right you know which is like it probably pays for itself if if if i was willing to pay him that amount then whatever but like you know it's pretty appealing to be able to make content just by yourself and uh really at the end of the day a dollar is a dollar and a view is a view you know it's like i know that he's kind of expressed that he's not as interested in that type of content anymore but do you feel like blad if he wanted to could get a lot more higher tier your hip-hop based artists that are like currently relevant on this platform i just think that mission of like oh i want to be i want to interview don toliver and i want to interview fucking kendrick and like i mean it's just there's nothing there they're still being careful they don't want to do interviews yeah that's not you know if you want to get a playboy cardi interview i understand but like you probably shouldn't like base your business off being like the channel that could maybe get a playboy cardi interview because it's like impossible he's like the hardest thing you could do nowadays is to get the top tier rappers to do interviews like it's just not really going to work so i think vlad and everybody else kind of came to the conclusion that like we got to find interesting characters that aren't the a-list rappers and even you know go back to the glory days of vlad is like he was almost never getting the a-list rappers same with me like a-list rappers have never really wanted to be doing a million interviews and plus they're guarded with their opinions and their thoughts because of marketing and promotion like they have to be inside of a certain box where you get somebody i don't want to say washed up but somebody that's that's kind of past their prime is still chasing that you know what I mean and they understand like shit I'm just gonna go after it and I don't have to worry about there's a more freedom to this the B or C lister well a lot of those guys also just didn't want to go on Vlad anymore because it became quote-unquote the federal platform and shit like that bring some like kind of like closer that up like uh because they still going breakfast clubs$1 worth a game and to Shannon Sharp.

2:44:04You know what I'm saying? That's true, but those are the podcasts where you can almost 100 % know that you're not going to get presented in a bad light. You know, like Gilly and Wallow aren't going to ask you tough questions. Charlamagne's not going to like hold you to the fire. This nigga Gilly be bringing up some shit, bro. I didn't hear the song, but oh, they did play. Nicki Minaj said, make your ass cheeks quench like French to my French Montana. and he brought that up like, what does she mean by that? Make your ass quink, sure. He said, I don't know. We had a lot of wild nights in LA. I don't remember, I was on drugs back then.

2:44:43I don't know. What? I swear to God, bro, that shit is funny. You could probably pull it up. That shit, I guess him and Diddy was partying or something. He said, I don't know. He said, I don't know. I mean, I don't remember, man. It was a lot of wild nights back then in LA. He's hanging out with Puffy. Hey, look, pull it up, bro. That shit was crazy. Does she mean she made him bust a nut? No. I think she just knows some background information. She's like, make your ass. She's quench like French. But the bigger overall thing is just that all of the platforms that like previously were known for getting the really big high profile guests are not doing so well at this time.

2:45:19I do not feel that we are living in the era of million dollars worth of game and drink champs. Like they were killing it five years ago or whatever. And after that as well. but like i don't think that you really hear that much about them and drink champs like they're trying to pivot they're bringing on different hosts and stuff i saw i saw fucking coyotes on drink champs the other day and i'm like damn they're on drink champs and then i'm like hovering over and i'm like oh shit there's some other dudes interviewing them like they got all kinds of people doing podcasts and shit now on there do you think that um barstool got their money's worth because didn't they sign didn't they like give gillian wilder like 60 million dollars or it was an insane amount of money supposedly i will i will say that i think gillian wallow are not idiots and they understand the value of telling people that you got a hundred million dollar podcasting deal but do i think they got a hundred million dollar podcasting deal i mean i've looked at their podcast and i don't i don't see where the hundred million dollars would have came from i mean well the production value is not i don't think it's better than it's literally it's whatever i mean like but people love saying i i was just saw a clip dean and ab talking about they made$20 million this month or something.

2:46:28In six months. I think six months they have made$20 million. Why would anyone believe that? On kick or some shit. What the fuck are we talking about? People will literally believe anything. Did we ever figure out, did somebody trick DW Flay? Well, yeah, I think we figured that out as soon as he took the post down. Somebody disappeared. That was P. Nice. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my bad. And no, we never got an answer about that, so for sure we still... Yeah, not DW, P. Nice. somebody pulled a fast one on him man. He got tricked. That's so fucking funny. They tricked P nice and then he just acted like it didn't happen.

2:47:03Just got to give, just survive the week, man. Little catfish. Survive the week, dude. Yeah, little catfish. I'd be so pissed off somebody fucking me like that, bro. Oh man, I know. I'm so mad. Oh shit. You know, they got these fake lottery tickets and people were like, oh, I bought you a ticket and everybody think they win a million dollars and shit. Oh yeah, that shit not funny. I don't find that shit funny, bro. That is not funny. Man, somebody get shot. My girl, or my ex-girl told me that one time when she was a kid that her dad told them that they were going to Disneyland and then he was like ah got you we're not going to Disneyland I'm like what are you talking like what kind of dad could ever think that's funny like what the fuck that is scandalous I was like cause I always say that she doesn't have daddy issues When I heard that I'm like Maybe there are some daddy issues Deep inside there Cause that's fucked Did he not follow up and go eventually Never followed up with Dizzy I mean I'm sure she went as a kid But I don't think it was for a while after that What kind of joke is that though bro I know Do you think it was a financial thing Like all of a sudden something came up And he wasn't able to No I think the whole time that was the plan To a kid that's everything Oh yeah that's telling her Santa's not real Oh man It's worse actually is that insane that's fucked up I still think about that sometimes yeah but I'm with Munchy that lottery shit don't play no fucking game yeah I don't find that funny yeah don't play no what's the specific scam you guys are talking about you give them a fake lottery ticket yeah and then you fake like you won like a hundred million dollars and you're like oh my god and it's on the TV like the the shit comes no you go buy them off Amazon they fake like you know what I'm saying and you really think you hit and that man that shit you get to spend the money you ain't got nigga yeah that's fucked up you get a blue red like I ain't rich I seen some kids start crying like oh shit we're gonna get our own house or this and that that could be a finesse move I got quick I'm out of here I'm about to buy that building then you're gonna have to act like he was just kidding about that I was just talking around come back in like hey what's up man I know a poker player just recently got for 50k and it's like a super charming dude comes to him and basically like meets him, forms a little bit of a relationship, starts to – they start trusting him.

2:49:27They start to like – he feels like he's actually cool with this guy. And the guy starts telling him like, I can get you into this crazy poker game that like everybody in Vegas wants to get into or whatever. So, all right, my boy is like getting really geeked up and starting to think like, oh, okay, I have to really like rely on this guy and like be as cool to him as possible. Then the guy starts suggesting that we bet on sports. and he starts laying some crazy odds and it seems like a good deal and stuff so my buddy takes the deal with the guy and sure enough he loses and he loses a couple times in a row all of a sudden he's he's down 50k to the guy and he pays the guy and so whatever he like you know he doesn't see him for a while after that or whatever and then he starts talking to people and he starts to realize this guy does this all the fucking time the exact same playbook but if he loses he just comes up with crazy lies so that he doesn't have to pay him you know which is like it sounds like such a simple scam yeah to just not pay the guy but like he really like wins people over it hits him with the charm gives him like a real reason to pay the debt right away which is that you're trying to get into this other poker game or whatever and then if he loses he just fucks you over he good i'm like that's pretty good i'm not gonna lie that's pretty good like i think he can go to jail for that though um how are you really gonna prove that this guy owes you 50k you know it's not in writing it's not like but but that the the brother that was faking like a 49er went to jail for for scamming but there's more of a paper trail there i think whereas like if the only thing we have is that you sent me 50k on cash app how am i really proving that we had this conversation maybe you could sue him in civil court you could push the issue anything over 10k is federal he could push the issue but i guess your homie gang gang he like fuck it he should get it back well the thing is is that he really did lose so it's like it's not like there's any way that he can prove that the guy wasn't gonna pay him yeah but then he starts meeting all these other people who say that exact story of like oh yeah like he didn't pay me but then like even in that situation it's like you're not actually out any money you thought you were about to make money but you're not out money so you can't be that mad you thought you were gonna win 50k but now you're just like break even you're like whatever but then if you're the kind of guy who actually pays his debts, then you're out 50K because you fucking paid the guy.

2:51:47Actually, it's so stupid that it's kind of brilliant. But you can only pull it off if you have the swag. Guess what? Guess what? The guy who's doing the scam, he's a brother. And I'm not going to lie, I think that probably helps a little bit. The cool, smooth, funny black guy ropes in the nerdy white guy. He's got the, what's the game where they have the ball under the cups? Oh, yeah. Those guys that do that shit, like the foes on melrose bro i used to see people getting obliterated on melrose with that shit yeah but they have the charisma and they have like the the showmanship and and one of the first times that i ever was like what is neighborhood crip it's because a dude was fucking scamming doing that shit and he got caught or he didn't get caught but he took 500 from the guy and the guy starts trying to act tough and he starts banging neighborhood on him and i'm i'm not even really knowing what that is i'm just thinking it's like some regular gang thing or whatever and like basically like he would scam these little white boys out of the last fucking dollar just if they tried to do anything he would just bang his head I'll beat your ass you want this money I bet you old boy that got your boy for the bread like with the poker thing and the gambling thing I bet you he been to the feds before cause them some sophisticated smooth people they master manipulators you know what I mean but the fact that so many people knew about him that you could talk about and they be like oh I know yeah that's the guy he does that all the time how is he still operating hey that how to rob thing with the ingwood families on rap news street politics the dude that was doing everything with him but he wasn't from my hood the derryl didn't do i was dealing with him before they was and but i didn't know he was in the major leagues before i didn't know he was a professional baseball player until that to it came on like on the internet right so and he was in in in the major leagues still and watches from his teammates and shit and that.

2:53:44Like, you know what I'm saying? But this dude have no tattoos, clean cut, and on purpose he a clean piece of paper. You know what I'm saying? And he carry himself in a certain way. But he's not a gang member, he just hung out type shit? He say he from 2P's, but he was just cool to me. I didn't smell gang member on him, but he around all of us. Okay. I never seen him around nobody from 2P's, but like people like him he a con artist bro yeah he present in a clean way like he clean like the last one you expect that would do it so you don't even blame him hey the art of finesse is a real thing you know what up famo I don't know what the fuck famo is what up dude what up mud he was cool people he was snitching out a lot of people with this I'm going to tap in with some of the donos right here.

2:54:39Check those out. Man, I can't wait for the fucking music video to be ready. It's going to be so fun. Yeah, I'm excited about that. Yeah, it's going to be a good day when that drops. Okay, scroll my ass on up to the top here. Let's get into it. Don't feed the wolves. Thank you for becoming a member and shout out to everybody who's a member or hits us with any kind of donation. It means the world to us. Keeping the wheels on this thing. dragon eye blood has been a member for six months he said adam nolan's friend said he never got on the boat but the autopsy said he fell off the boat or what about the deleted messages and get off drake's nuts um as a person who's not an expert in this case which i'm assuming applies to you as well i'm gonna put it in the hands of the grand jury i think that they probably uh had a better grip on the facts of this case than than did the autopsy say he fell off the boat absolutely did not say that it said blood force trauma or an injury consistent with it is so unappealing to argue about something like that in the public eye because the amount of disinformation is just so fucking insane and not just from like random people it's like the families this fucking ben crump guy it's just like it's it's just there's almost no chance of people getting to the the actual root of it don't even get me started on these fucking cornell rapist kids Bro that shit is such an obvious Money grab I feel bad for anybody falling for that shit But this situation The Northern Wells case His homies If you even want to call them Definitely look like there's something up with them And I don't trust that at all Yeah the deleted Snapchats or whatever And messages Is that even true?

2:56:16The no liquid The forensic scientist or whatever And the no liquid In his lungs our stomach, our throat which is apparently extremely common from a drowning incident? like it just doesn't, you don't necessarily get water in your lungs when you like if you want us to look it up no I just didn't know that is it common to drown and not have water in your lungs I looked that up the other day yes it's possible to die from drowning without a large amount of water in the lungs occurring in roughly 10 % of cases which is pretty small though major health organizations now prefer the single medical term of drowning instead of dry drowning right because dry drowning refers to typically children who's have a much smaller lung capacity who if they get water in their lungs might potentially die hours after the fact yeah it's just that you see it so much that like like okay when the autopsy like finally came back and the grand jury and everything and basically said like hey we don't think that he was killed and then the parents are crying at a press conference in front of everybody it's like aren't you supposed to be happy that your son wasn't the victim of a hate crime your son wasn't killed they don't really know they don't but that's the thing like we have the system in play and you don't know anything about what happened to my son he just disappeared and then just washed up on shore with these bruises and contusions and i agree it's mysterious but also it's like if the are we supposed to believe that the whole grand jury that features six black people was racist?

2:57:53I don't know. Covering up for a hate crime. I mean, this doesn't seem likely. I don't know if the juror, the jury or the juror, what do you call it? Grand jury was, was racist, but I would say that shit is very questionable. Like who deleted the messages? Well, it's Snapchat. So the messages delete themselves, but text messages. I also do think that, um, a grand jury in Mississippi could very well be racist. I don't think that's absurd at all. Six black people. Uncle Tom's You think they found Six anti-black people I don't think it's I don't think it's as crazy As I mean it's unlikely But But I think But then You think six black people Are anti-black enough That they would like Misleadingly Handle their duties As jurors Let me break something It's unlikely Let me break something to you bro My grandma bro I wouldn't want her on my jury Well I'm her grandson But You wouldn't want her I get what you're saying You know what I'm saying My grandma You'd be surprised I'm her grandson You wouldn't want her on the homies jury basically of course not yeah nolan well's friends denied deleting messages and threatened ben crump with a lawsuit so i'm pretty sure that the idea of them deleting messages in the first place was just like more fake news that came out in the process of this whole thing my main problem is that it's like there's so many people getting so many views of making up fucking total lies about this shit and then they never have to deal with it at all there's no consequence there's no penalty and actually people love you because they don't really want the truth they just want to hear fun stories titillate them like i are they want the answers like what the fuck happened to this but once they get the answers they reject the answers and then rely on more conspiracy theories because the because they they end up with all of these different beliefs through the process of learning about it and most of those beliefs are total bullshit but then those beliefs contradict with the findings of the court so who are these forensic teams that are supposedly coming up with finding these deleted messages and saying things like Nolan was...

2:59:50Did that happen? Yeah. It even says it right there. The next thing I'm going to do with the deleted message? No. Scientific scientist. Yeah, I believe it does. Okay, so some of them, they did not delete text messages, but some of them did unsend messages within a Snapchat group chat. Which is essentially the same thing as deleting a Snapchat. However, they're claiming that they did not. I never had a Snapchat on. I think it was a race after like 24 hours or whatever you set up. It's hard to know what you mean. Either way, let's say at the end of all this, we find out that they didn't delete any Snapchat.

3:00:25Remember the picture of Nolan Wells with his friends by the pool? Yeah. And it was from before this trip. And there was a day where everybody was just acting like this photo of him at the pool. Dogface posted it on his feed and was talking about this as evidence that these kids were guilty. and then it comes out like later that day that this photo was from like weeks before they went on the trip together this dog face spent any oxygen at all fixing his error no he just acts like somehow it's like a racist conspiracy that he was wrong well i wouldn't go off of the like the dog face shit i would go off of like the news that's just recently posted like they're actually um reporting and and collaborating with this shit that's come out well yeah i guess one of the message basically is of nolan also saying hey like there's people here that don't fuck with me or there's people that seem racist or something like that was the implication wait there were texts that said that yeah that's that's what is being stated that's amongst some of the messages and i believe it was on snap like him being afraid of or being concerned that there's people here that don't like him or giving him racist vibes and then somebody else texting not necessarily Nolan but saying hey these dudes that's behind us are fucking are racist are racist and it could not have been his friend you know what I mean but Okay, there were cell phone messages where his friends expressed concern that people on Horn Island could be racist.

3:01:54It doesn't really seem like something that a bunch of racist hate crimers would be concerned about. But I'm not even saying for his friends, but if they're not revealing, why are they not saying that? Why didn't they say there was some guys up there that were following us in a boat that were racist and we were warned about? you know but that's like very specific this just says that they were expressing concern that people could be racist not that there was anything like actually racist going on but if so if somebody ends up dead doesn't that bring like hey let's look into this who were those but it's not like we know everything that happened in their conversations with law enforcement if his right well because that's the thing if his homies did in fact in fact feel that way why would they not share that information is Rio's point.

3:02:40Why do you think that they didn't? Because it's coming up now. How is it coming up now? The messages that they're saying that they're recovering and the timeline of when it was accessed between Nolan, whatever time and then the timeline of where the phone traveled to and when the messages were deleted and it just doesn't make sense. I think it only doesn't make sense in the context of like all of this like huge flood of disinformation that has happened in the wake of it and it just i i wish we lived in a world that could be a little bit more respectful of the process in which like all these leeches didn't feel they need to clamor all over it and just like completely like ruin any chance of there ever being any sort of public confidence in any sort of conclusion but that's also as a result of the clickbait generation that we're living in right that's what i'm saying yeah But all the people that we know who play into it, who make money every single day like that.

3:03:38I mean, it bothers me that they do it. And it bothers me that there's nothing that acts as a mechanism that could make them deal with any sort of consequences for the fact that these people are making the world a dramatically worse place by spreading so much disinformation on a consistent basis. When they're playing off of the divisive nature of people, and especially when it comes to race, that's when it becomes extra problematic. Especially in Mississippi, you know what I mean, where that does play a big issue. And it could be a possibility that there was no foul play. Well, that's what the grand jury said.

3:04:15Yeah, but that doesn't mean that they got it right. You know what I mean? If things are coming out now after the fact, it's like... But what is coming out since the grand jury had access to a lot, more information than is publicly available. It also doesn't take all members of the grand jury to be racist. All it takes is one or two of them that are able to, if they're influential enough to sway consensus. So if there's a really influential racist white guy, he's able to convince six other black people that they should, that they should vote in a racist way. That'd be pretty cool. That'd be pretty amazing.

3:04:48But it doesn't have to be racist. It could be just like, why does it have to be racist? Why can't somebody just kill, somebody and try to cover it up because they don't want to go to jail for it. It doesn't have to be. But that's what the grand jury has said that they don't believe that they have any reason to think. But that's also with the Murdoch case where the family had the lawyers, the judges, the police officers and covering shit. I don't know anything about that. That was the Netflix with the family. Well, if this wasn't in such a historically racist place of Mississippi burning fame, then maybe it would have a different accent to it.

3:05:21I think that's why a lot of people are quick to jump on that they have an untrustworthy history i gotta i gotta get more informed i'm i'm hella late and stuff i gotta get more informed i didn't really pay attention to this till like recently um because people kept asking me about it and i was like i fucking don't know and so i just was looking at this shit from the last few days and it's like wait what like damn that's kind of sketchy yeah i just think that you know okay five black people on the grand jury. Just like, nobody's gonna convince me that five black people were all fucking willing to get in on this white supremacist conspiracy.

3:05:57You know, it's a lot of Oreos out there, bro. It's Flacco's and Brandon's and shit, bro. That many? Bro, especially in the South. But you, like, how is Flacco and Brandon? Like, you think Flacco or Brandon would be on a jury and intentionally vote against a black person because they hate black people so much? I mean, Flacco has made a million Nolan Wells videos about this thing basically accusing people of being racist. But he praised white supremacy white supremacists though. That was Flacco 1.0. Flacco 2.0 hates racism. Yes. There's been various arcs of Flacco. I just learned what Grifton was.

3:06:36Honestly. I just learned that a couple months ago. Yeah, Grifton. Good work if you can get it. Alright, let's read some donos. Ron Lon Richie said A. Adam Blood, stop trying to spare Bo Dean. He did the same thing to me with a girl in Beverly Hills. Say the word and I'm on blood on IFG. Shout out to the mayor. They keep bringing this shit up but you don't want to talk about it though. Yeah, I'm not fucking airing anybody out. Jay Chasen said, ain't no way Munchie getting beat on and can't defend. They're talking about the girl beating you up? I wasn't about to whip her out. I wasn't about to. Yeah, let her live.

3:07:14El Grande Lobo said W Pod Lions in the chat for Uno stay healthy Adam Munchie and the Native American homie Rios Shout out to Doughboy for not being here

3:07:26Q Bleasy said after his tour with Puyah Can we get a come help glow interview He's having a little peep type momentum Out of the underground scene Come help glow I gotta check him out because I'm not familiar yet But it sounds interesting Big Mike Hemi said I think Adam is the only one that doesn't think the way R &B was touching Blue Fist was out of pocket. I think if you actually watch the clip, there's actually no way that you could really think it was out of pocket. She tripped on something and leaned forward. He leaned forward a little. She touched his chest like this so that he wouldn't fall over.

3:08:02And these fucking psychos are all convinced that she's got something going on with them. That's what you told me. Psychos? Yeah. I mean, you watch the clip. If you watch the clip, there is no way that any sane human being could think that this is indicative of them having sexual chemistry. You're the only person I heard said this. Yeah, because everybody you talk to is thirsty to have anti-whack narratives. The whole internet. I'm not going to watch the clip again right now because we did this last time, but there's no way. I'm saying what the chatter just said is kind of true. Because I've heard not one person agree with you.

3:08:34Except for what? That lets me know that you exclusively speak to Psycho fans because there's no way that anybody could watch that clip and think it looks sexual. The internet. The whole of the internet. So who else agreed that you ran across on the internet? I'm not looking for other people's opinions. I just watched the clip and I have my own opinion. You're giving Brian Steele a run for his money. You might be able to get people. I've watched the clip and I don't think that any sane human being could have the opinion that what R &B does in that clip is in any way indicative of her having a sexual experience with Blue Face.

3:09:04I mean, I think, yeah, a sexual experience is a bit of a stretch, but I definitely wouldn't be psyched if my girl was doing that. No. If we watch the clip right now, you would not be able to say that because the way that she touches his chest is not in any way sexual. Chest and arm. At all. You're only saying that because you don't like him. Chest and arm. But I don't think he was. I know for sure he wasn't falling. I didn't see him falling. He leans forward a little, and she goes like, that's a stop. I forget what Wax said. He hit his foot on something or whatever. She didn't catch him. He wasn't like falling the whole way, which is we're talking about a clip that is on the internet that anybody could see.

3:09:40And you guys are both like willfully misrepresenting it. But Rios don't even have an issue with whack like that, for my knowledge. I don't think he's just they did an episode of the whack pod where Rios and him reals kind of like a loud whack to tell stories about himself that we've all heard like hundreds of times. I was looking through the fucking timestamps just like, oh, no, not this story. Oh, no. Not that story. Oh, my God. He told that story. Oh, he was talking about the trucking. Oh, no. I had never heard a conversation. That was my first time. He just, like, is the guy who just loves to tell the stories over and over.

3:10:18I mean, as I get older, I see myself becoming that guy a little bit more. But that's what old people do. Yeah. He's just, he's there. Is that Al Bundy syndrome? The Al Bundy syndrome? Four touchdowns in one game. It's been full, Kai. Disgusting. Mr. Pape Taker said Adam remember when Lush said they spent five days in jail once I want to hear about that and how it went and don't let Nick deflect like he didn't ever say this B team like hype subscribe yeah I've gotten arrested a few times bro it's true level 33 Grand Masons spelled wrong said can we get a timeline on when the moose experiment will end numbers and receptions don't lie the little chap is a flop oh my god he just tricked me into saying that the little c word is a flop shout out to the north unless he embraces his Norteño family roots I don't see him being a success for you Adam I mean if the Monday show has a problem I think Moose is probably the lesser problem so I think Moose is doing great I think Moose is doing good I watched the Monday show yesterday I don't know if like can we just continue to allow Doughboy to do this like wait what happened yeah what happened on the Monday show not a lot just a whole lot of nothing it was Moose and Doughboy and Sir Lance Woods and Lance was great but Doughboy just what was he doing nothing I challenge you to watch it but you're gonna be mad at me for making you waste your night on that George Bush said we get that at a point you can't get rid of whack no matter what he does but will you meet us in the middle and get rid of Ricky at least?

3:12:08That's fair I fucks with Ricky man I fuck with Ricky too Shout out to Ricky Richard Spence said Ask Lush is Chris Brown also pathetic for hitting women? Yes Him and Munchie whack derangement syndrome is pathetic at this point and even racism makes him the dumbest comments. He still can't name one country singer DV. Yeah, that was pretty bad, L. I'm not going to lie. You're like, country has a huge problem with that, too. Name one. This is my Adam take. I just know white country singers beat their women. That's my Adam take. I don't know not one white country singer, but that's just my opinion.

3:12:52I think white country singers beat white women. Do I think Chris Brown is pathetic for putting hands on a woman? Absolutely. But was it 20 plus years ago? Yeah. People make mistakes. She forgave him. Why the fuck would we not forgive him? I never hated Chris Brown. Him at the show. I was going to ask you if Kanye was at your show. Did he come out at SoFi when you were there, Munchie? That was in Saturday. That was Friday. What are you talking about? Kanye popped out. Kanye popped out, did four songs at the Usher. Chris Brown concert. Some people were mad because they don't like Kanye or whatever.

3:13:32Those people can suck huge cocks. Huge. Nando Baby said, yo, I just went on the No Jumper page and I only seen three different shirts. Y 'all need to put more shit up. Also, drop that fucking cipher already. Shout out to Munchie. B-Team. We're going to drop the cipher next week. 20 versus one probably also next week or maybe in a day or two. We have new shirts available but I don't know if they're up yet. They're not up yet, right? Um, I don't know. Steven, don't know. The new shirts are dope, though. We do have new shirts. I was wearing one of the 20... I'm going to take the picture, so they should be up soon.

3:14:04Yeah, they'll be up real soon. Don't worry. We got some new shit. Mr. Paper Taker said, can't wait for the honeymoon phase to be over and everyone, including Adam, can realize that Rios is hot, steamy garbage and hasn't had one good take on a single topic yet. B-team, like, hype, subscribe. God damn it. He should have said racist, Rios. Yeah, Mr. Double R. Yeah, that's the killer anti-realist argument is to paint him as like a race hater. My favorite Samoan. Just misrace him. No, Native American today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Native American. That's good. I like it. Dragon Eye Baby Lion said, shout out to Sober Lion.

3:14:40I've been drinking double and hitting the yeah, baby for you. When is the cypher dropping? He's hitting that Betty Wap. Hey, the geek for the cypher. It's going to be a fun day when that drops. Yeah, I'm super excited. Is it a date that is going to drop yet? You know when it's dropping? No. Maybe Monday we'll do it. It would be cool to do it right before this. I'm excited for the fact that Jordy filmed and directed it because he's a really dope prolific director. So I think it's going to look really fly. Show of him. Versatillion said, Munchie, is it true that non-affiliates got to pass up burritos in the county or else they get packed out?

3:15:18That's anybody with a trustee job going to pass it out. I'll pass out burritos I'm passing out burritos Come town Send the 20 ball I know Rios is qualified to build rockets But I don't know if he's qualified for conversation about women Respectfully Look at the excuses though about the cipher We wanted to hear your tagalog verse Filipinos represent So down Filipino I love that Queens Filipino I love that guy on the Joe Glenn pod um come town also said also fuck whack 100 all he can do is beat women and his meat he's still ducking my fade on come town also come town cypher incoming because nobody had any bars for me on the no drummer cypher damn nobody mentioned dragonites nobody mentioned come town that's pretty bad like i actually like listening to all you guys versus i was like damn i wish i didn't go second because i didn't say free break i didn't say nothing about sus or an or i just said random shit that I had written in my phone.

3:16:18I personally said exactly what I wanted to say. Take that. Mine was so off the time. If I could go back in and re-record it right now, I could make it way better, but I'm just gonna let it rock. I just tried to make my shit cool to listen to. Yeah. Ado said, yo, Rios, would you stop punting AD from packing Adam out if he got caught slipping and y 'all together? Yo, Munchie, quit thinking you know a lot blood. What the fuck is that? First part was a good question, though. Alright, so. So, punting AD run down on me. What are you doing? I'm like, get down, Adam. It's time to go for what you know.

3:16:51They're like, break it up, right? Yeah. You don't want to try to break AD's jaw, right? I wouldn't let nobody kill you, but I was like, you know, you got to deal with it. Yeah, like, really? Most fights, I would, like, try to break it up more than I would try to, like, be like, oh, this is my opportunity to, like, really hurt this guy. You know? Get him, guys. Hey, man. This weekend, ComplexCon, everybody's going to get their shot. Oh, that's this weekend. Yeah. Yeah. You want to come? They going to be there? Huh? Everybody probably going to be there. They going to be a lot of people there for sure.

3:17:22Will Central Sea catch Trap Laura Ross slipping again? You're speaking bad on the ends, fam. That was the – remember how viral that was at that time? Yeah, that was – For sure I might have something like that happen. That was a moment. That was great. Okay. Jay Loves Football said, You lied to us, Luss. The last recorded person to interview Malcolm X was Gordon Hall three days before his assassination. El Stolen Lawyer. Your dad said that he spoke to him on the phone the day of his death, right? Yeah. Not that he was the last person to interview him. El Lost Media? I don't know. I don't know. Comptown said, I was with a 304 the other day and that recent R.

3:17:59Kelly song came on where he was talking about them taking all his money. Shit almost took me out of it. Okay. Talking about like girls taking all his money? I ain't up on the song. Me neither. No. Yeah, Zach. Dago Stunna said on IFG Lush pissed me off so much yesterday he fucking says no not me not 4-0 at the end of the bar you mud butt shit stain hashtag it's my birthday happy birthday but E40 does say before that 9-10-11 and up if she bleeds you get fucked no not me not 4-0 I'll beat a bitch down with a 2x4 I don't think that really takes away from he said that how many years ago 95 I don't ever hear that.

3:18:41We were talking about all the lines, and it was like a list. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I don't see how that line doesn't qualify. Adam was here, I think. Well, we did that. We kind of had another iteration of that conversation yesterday. Well, I wonder if E40 has ever commented on that. What's the song called? It's called Riding Sideways. Ever commented on? It's a different time. It's a different time, man. Riding Sideways? Yeah, Riding Sideways. They're going to come up. Who was that? Wait, what? hitting the pregnant broad and the bus and then baby licking to come up which one was that uh lush you remember wait baby licking pregnant and then oh yeah yeah yeah um i guess there was an interview where he had to speak on that song and his breakdown of the song for complex focused strictly on the production the creation of the baseline and general bay area slang meaning of riding sideways it's a great fucking song i love the record i just always thought that line was super sus that's pretty crazy that he never had to speak on it he just he just avoided it and it just went away i guess mostly the fact that i'm the only person that seems to have a serious problem with it is i mean it sounds pretty nasty but also it's like shit i know i thought a long time ago yeah i mean like i still love 40 the norm back then is way oh i thought that bela was kind of crazy for even saying only 16 but way too right and then 40 says age ain't nothing but a number I mean keep in mind that around that time Jerry Seinfeld had the biggest TV show in America and he was publicly dating a girl who was in high school so was 17 year old he had a 17 year old girlfriend I never heard that in New York he probably lived actually not in New York probably here yeah the line you were talking about was a UGK bar yeah UGK another legend i was wearing a pimp c-shirt when being disgusted by that it's a lot of squirtle pyru which by the way that's he's trying to start like a new movement squirtle in front of stuff on pyru munchies see me in pallet town me and wag pulling up with the dicks in the escalade and firing at will squirtle pyru is hilarious um can't you just become a blastoise or a war turtle like you should evolve bro he hasn't evolved yet life is about evolution um jay loves football said drake is only as standalone as he is because music itself has gone to shit it's pathetic he's the metric at 40 years old and we are all cooked music is dead he does have a point there is some truth to that yeah there's a little bit of truth to that yeah think about all the good people that die that would be like just think about how many less stars there are now it kind of feels like the stars that we have now are just left over from this prior generation and that we might not really have like fast forward 20 years drake kanye taylor swift whoever they're all kind of out of the picture they're not like huge they're not the biggest artists anymore will there be artists that like replace them it's it's kind of hard to imagine sometimes there has to be someone's got to say there is a huge void there is a gigantic vacuum but post drake and kanye there hasn't been artists anywhere near as big as them and it's been almost 20 years.

3:21:55Well, yeah, like a lot of the people that were supposed to step into that role are no longer with us, and then others wound up falling short of the expectations of their trajectory. But people dying should just, like, open the door for other people to take those spots. Well, yeah, because even before, like, a lot of the dudes that died, like the Juice WRLDs and XXXs who were going to occupy that space, even before them, Uzi never really got as far as he was supposed to. A lot of these dudes never really got as far. Yeah. Adam, we are friends. This is the official Kingfish. We are friends in Pokemon Go, currently in a group challenge together.

3:22:28Let me know if there are any Pokemon you are looking for in a trade. Hey, buddy, I'll check your list out. I'll make sure I add more people to my list. But I might be occupied because now I talk about Pokemon exclusively with Big Boy from Outcasts because he followed me back after me talking about him and Pokemon. So that was pretty exciting. That's funny. He said he's level 60. I thought that was a fucking joke. He said he's level 60. that hit him up be like i'm level 80 oh shit just don't play with me just a little flex that'll be so tight if fucking uh if big boy comes on the podcast one time to talk about pokemon the whole time he was just at the he was just at the sofa he performed at the ramps oh nice it has often occurred to me that pokemon go is a game that realistically like almost no famous people would play because it kind of involves going out in public which hasn't stopped me but it would make sense for like normal famous people I guess.

3:23:21Well shit for him to be at a 60 that's pretty. But those dudes are so ridiculously down to earth like an outcast. I mean Andre 3000 is probably like playing the flute at Venice Beach right now. I bet if Big Boy puts on a Nike tech that he can walk around like relatively undisturbed. Just chillunk? Just a neighborhood you know. I just pointed out that the Milena artists on LaValena they be spotted everywhere. He probably in the Rissy area in Georgia walking around playing Pokemon Go. He's just posted up in Buckhead. And when was the last time you heard somebody say, I can't stand Big Boy from OutKat.

3:23:56Never. Never have I heard that word, that phrase uttered in my life. We don't know anything about what their attention is. Yeah. Creative differences. Frumpire said, Adam, you was a ring girl. That wasn't a fight. You was too scared to get hit. Well, it's still a fight even if the other person doesn't swing back you fucking moron. Come Town said shout out to Munchie the Mayor. Got the fire blue sweatshirt on today I see. Always got the hard fit. Shut the fuck up. Very tricky. That's hilarious. Flowing. Plowing. Said Lush got Pookie of the year. Instead of Rookie. I like that. Except for like a Pookie is a device that you use to smoke.

3:24:40It rhymes with Rookie. Big Mike Hemi said I don't understand how Vlad and Wack continue to do business with 6ix9ine when he is a doc documented pedophile which by the way i will say that like there's a version of six nines child sex charge that he always told over the years and like lately flocco has been on a bit of a war path to like tell people the real version of that story and the version that flocco's putting out there is not in any way similar to the version that uh six nine was putting out there so six times and that's my boy i'm not eager to throw dirt on him but i'm doing some pretty good reporting on that the truth is the affidavit that he's he's on he told the truth and then you know he did what he had to do did all his obligations and then he had to register well yeah there and there is video of him right like like slapping the 14 year old girl on the butt right he posted it on instagram oh shit and he he was pretty young too but i think he was past 18 he was like 19 or 20 or something i think weirdo yeah not good um c hustle 8748 said whack adam and vlad on a campaign to discredit boosie we gonna always ride with boosie over you cowards well that's good to know that you don't have a mind of your own thank you for actually writing it out in text can you show the screen for a second c hustle wants everybody to know he does not have a mind of his own he can't think for himself he is entirely committed to Boosie almost as like a Jesus-like figure and obviously that is very cool to not be able to think for yourself.

3:26:13That's how you ride for Drake? No, I just side with Drake on many issues, but there's many things I would not. Do you guys have Boosie derangement syndrome? I think we're going to have to talk about him a lot more. I honestly think it's the intent and he had an expectation and it wasn't that. You mean Boosie? Boosie. yeah I mean you couldn't have set yourself up to be more of the anti-snitching guy than him he canceled his project with T.I. because T.I. talked on a podcast about how if his friend died maybe he would put the charge on him not that he did it just that he maybe would fuck bro bro tell it on the dead it's not snitching if you're not getting nobody else in trouble I agree.

3:27:01And Brick Baby said the same exact thing. But the whole thing is that it's not like T.I. did it. He just talked about the possibility of doing it, and that was enough for Boosie to cancel their project together. So once you're willing to go that hard, I mean, yeah, you can't just, like, tell the cops that your gun was your homies just because it was a security guard. Well, Boosie, I got a song with Boosie. I would. He's going to yank it off streaming services now. You know what you gotta do, because I... But, nigga, you can't come back from the dead and do this time. But the thing... All right, two things...

3:27:35One of two things has to happen. Boosie's career has to be irreparably harmed by this, or we have to accept that all the people in the music industry who claim that they're anti-snitching are full of shit. He's not snitching, bro. Did he respond to that text? Did he talk to the... Did the security guard say that? That's who I want to hear from him. The security guard didn't want to take a gun charge for a gun that wasn't his. No, no, no, no. Is the security guard calling him a snitch? We haven't got to that yet. I texted Vlad and responded. You said that was a good question. We got to work on that, though.

3:28:05We got to talk to the security guard. But also, it doesn't matter if he calls him a snitch, because if you snitch, then you snitched. No, no, no. I'm telling you, miscommunication, bro. I think the miscommunication was Boosie telling the world that he was anti-snitching, when actually what he meant was, I'm anti-other people snitching. I am pro-myself snitching as soon as it's convenient. I don't think that. I don't think he told. Well, he did. It's clear as day. He told him to security guard. All right. I want the security guard. The rules start changing real quick when it's one of your faves.

3:28:37Hey, hey, hey. Selective politics. It's one of your faves. If you've ever seen a quarterback try to hand the ball off, but the running back go to block and he dropped the ball. Like, bro, it's a – bro. See, even real gangsters start making up convoluted sports metaphors to justify snitching once it's their fave. He doesn't know anything about football. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. That ain't going to work on me. That ain't going to work on me. y 'all ain't even on the same page like like i know but look at how much you're willing to do to cover up for somebody's snitches just because you like them i want to know i want to hear from the security guard now why does it why do you have to hear from the security guard the security guard could lie no no because the security guard might be like bro you you had it fucked up i wasn't about to do that like i i get where you was going most niggas expecting if you to bag somebody around this month about to take this charge you're supposed to take the charge and No, that has to be discussed beforehand.

3:29:26It's not like your day one homie that you already had that conversation with. It's just a security guard. Security guard wants to keep his job. He wants to feed his family. Boosie definitely thought that that dude was way more with it than he was. That's what I'm saying. He thought something. He might have said he was going to take care of you. Let me ask you a question. What made you think you could say, this is his gun, and the public just believe you off the rip? Yeah, stupid as hell. Without him knowing. That tells you that he thought the nigga was going to be with the program. So yeah, so he flip-flopped most likely.

3:29:56You gotta make... Okay, okay, but then once he realized that the guy wasn't with the program, he threatened to kill him if he didn't take the gun charge in front of the cops. No, not in front of him, but... Yeah, they heard it. Oh, I thought that was in the backseat. It's in the police report that they heard it. It must have been recorded. It was recorded when he was in the backseat. No, I think they heard it like in real life. Like they were standing like kind of near the car and they heard him threatening to kill him. So to me, that threatening to kill him lets me know that... Okay. Maybe Boosie thought that this guy was really with it like that.

3:30:28That's what I was saying. But then it becomes clear that he's not. So instead, he says, no, actually, you have to, or I'm going to get you killed. Boosie in San Diego with one security guard, I don't know. Think about how much money he cost himself by making this bad decision. Yeah, don't take that 15K for the future ever again. Because now he probably spent a million. because he spent 600k on trying to get pardoned how do you find that one security guard another couple hundred thousand on lawyers i mean and now everybody knows you're a snitch he ain't hired the right people yeah like i gotta i'm not covering enough for nobody i just want to hear from the security guard security guard feel the same way like you know i'm saying instead of like man there's a misunderstanding so if the security guard says yeah he told on me Then Boosie you're at?

3:31:17I mean, if he feel like he... I mean, I ain't about to argue with him. He don't want to directly evolve. But I think it was a missed... Whatever word I've been using for the last five minutes. I feel like we saw the end of... Like, I feel like a lot of the people that fuck with Boosie, they won't talk shit about him, but they won't fuck with him going forward. I just seen too many different scenarios and situations. You know what I mean? But if people do keep fucking with him, that kind of lets us know that they don't have any integrity. Tekashi69 has snitch shit. He has PDF shit on him. And people still fucking with him.

3:31:46but not people in the rap game like people gonna fuck with Boosie because they're hypocrites but the thing about it is that the people that fuck with 6ix9ine are people that are not in the streets there's almost nobody in the streets that fucks with 6ix9ine aside from somebody like Wack who's able to justify it who's not in the streets but you know he's from a gang so he'll he'll say oh well he didn't tell him me and like the gang is at fault because they were allowing this dude to run around with him doing shootings and stuff but like as much as 6ix9ine has made huge inroads with like being cool again because all the streamers fuck with him he just is not like it's not like anybody in the rap game is fucking with him kodak did a song with him and it was like months of hell afterwards but he dissed him on the song and nobody cared yeah nobody cares no adam what you said is true but it is also selective politicking right because if munchie wound up doing the exact same thing as 6ix9ine and that came out then he'd be like oh this guy's a rat yeah exactly from pyra said r kelly wrote for michael jackson whitney houston celine dion the isley brothers britney spears lady gaga john legend etc sit this one out adam i didn't say that he didn't write for other people so i don't know why you're trying to those songs that he wrote for them hey celine dion that that's kind of crazy i'm saying i just say and i wasn't pivoting that he's a better artist that's all i was in uh c hustle said vlad has watered his brand down by chasing clout now whack and charleston white It's his brand.

3:33:08He don't get no good interviews no more. Vlad actually just had his highest viewed month ever. So. Who's his guys now? What? A lot of variety. Yeah. But a lot of Charleston, I guess. A lot of his own shit. A lot of the Boosie and Nori drama probably helped, you know? How much is that also on the heels of him just having an ever-growing and expanding catalog? The catalog doesn't do that much in terms of views. You know, it stops eventually. You know, the buck stopped. the buck stops here uh yeah i've seen what my channel starts to turn into when i don't post and it's not it's not it's not too great not pretty i mean it's something but it's not it's not like the idea of like well i'm gonna make youtube videos for 10 years and then i'm gonna sit back and just coast and just gobble up that sweet sweet ad revenue honestly that seemed like more of a real thing in 2016 but now people are consuming very of the moment stuff like There's no old video in the No Jumper catalog that's getting more than 1 ,000 views a day.

3:34:13That's over a year old. The Q50 shit got some good... I'm talking about old videos. Sometimes when we re-up something, it might do something. I'm going to say this. The hypnotizable hate clip always go... That's what I was thinking about, shit like that, because that's always going to go viral again every few months, right? Well, okay. I stand corrected, because the one exception to that, like the King Vaughn interview in the last 48 hours has got like 3 ,000 views per day, which is actually crazy. That's actually like, it's just such an outlier. Like a King Vaughn interview in his prime is just like such a rare thing for you to get.

3:34:55And just because I'm curious. Damn, what a short-lived. I know. Got some top from this stripper, bitch. Dude. In the last 365 days, the King Von interview has profited$4 ,400, which is actually insane. Yeah, that long after the fact? Yeah, but that's just like such a huge exception to the rule. Q Dizzle said, I love that Draco shirt, Adam, on B-Team. Very funny. Alex Croat said, Gabe Brooks would rock Crip Mac and so many others. Yes, and he would have had reason to rock Crip Mac because he was from Trouble Gangster Crip. So shout out to Gabe Brooks, my homie. Long live him. Rest in peace. What about Garth Brooks?

3:35:39Very funny. That was a really good joke. Really good pun when I'm eulogizing my homie. I'll long live him. Lush, always with the good jokes and the good timing. Munchies Ray-Ban said, Adam been way more racist after the whole Jason Love thing. Very funny. Jumble05 said, Grand jury doesn't have to be unanimous and five out of 23 is not half of the jurors. I don't think I said it was half, but it was half non-white. Dragonite Spaz said they didn't give the grand jury all the info that was actually available, but W Ricky, W Rios, respect every morning, W Munchie, W Lion, always W NJ. Appreciate that, man.

3:36:16That's right. Muted that one. C Hustle said, so Adam, the only misinformation has from the Nolan Wells side. Not even close to knowing what sentence he was trying to communicate there. He might just say was instead of has. So, Adam, the only misinformation was from the Nolan Wells side. Well, I think when you look at his side, where you have disinformation experts like Benjamin Crump and Al Sharpton, and then you have on the other side, law enforcement, yes, I do feel like law enforcement was much more committed to the truth. Like Officer Tatum. Officer Tatum, honestly, I will take Officer Tatum's version of this over Ben Crump.

3:36:56I would love for him to get on Brand Reels. Officer Tatum? Yeah. I want someone to fuck him. Isn't he like 50 or something? I don't know. Hall pass monitor Tatum. We did his ass. But I think they were saying that you weren't talking about the misinformation from the other side. But what is the misinformation from the other side? I don't know of any. Yeah, that's what I said. I got to get more informed. Shout out to B. Busy B. Fray for the 20. Appreciate that, man. Comptown says, shout out to Rios. He was in hieroglyphics. Not the rap group. I mean on the pyramids. Scorpion King head ass. Yo. That dude is funny and for some reason just has his sights set on a few of us.

3:37:34I'll fuck with Cumbtown. Chase said, Moose is worse than Doughboy. He brings nothing and is the most monotone, boring potter. L. Ricky, Adam, you've been hating blacks since Jason Love piped LTP. Nothing could ever make me hate my black brother's friend. Just because I'm willing to be critical of certain famous black people, like Benjamin Crump, does not mean that I hate all black people. and I would think that you would understand that if you weren't a retard. I don't hate him I just think he's full of shit. Yeah he's just fucking a liar. Richie Vids said Adam please only put Ricky on one day a week.

3:38:08I haven't been able to watch it if he's on. He makes everything unwatchable I've resorted to watching a day in LA. I don't believe you. Please I beg of you Master Grand Mason Day in LA? We should have a day where we like somehow like torture Ricky or something where like something to make the fans like him because they just hate all the time. You want to haze Ricky? I mean, just something. That's an interesting point because I noticed when I feel like the fans started to kind of endear themselves to Doughboy a little bit once they felt like he was being bullied by us. Now I feel like they're just going to check that.

3:38:47Dragonite Spats said, The fact that no one shouted out the Klan is not that crazy, but get Kenny on camera more. WCASWMoose stream every night. Catch Ricky and Nam. What clan is he talking about? Because he didn't spell it with a K. He spelled it with a C. Wu-Tang? That's the only clan that I could think of with a C. It's pretty much two clans. The racist one and the rapper one. You're either Ku Klux or Wu-Tang. But what conversation would have... What about Blue Bucks? The fact that no one shouted out the clan... What conversation would we have with Wu-Tang? Would have been in the... We're talking about the greatest groups of all time, but I don't really think there's much use in comparing Wu-Tang clan to R.

3:39:23Kelly and Jay-Z. Hold on, hold on, hold on. The Wu-Tang got some suspect lyrics? Is that what they talking about? Do they? I don't think so, right? Maybe they talking about that. I mean, they talked about smoking crack and dust and shit like that. ODB has some wild... He said crazy shit, but it was ODB. So when I was a kid, I kind of thought ODB was like a real homeless person. Like he might have just been living on the streets because he seemed so... He was like a hundred times crazier than every other rapper that seemed a little crazy. And I think he was crazier than what we thought he was. Oh, yeah.

3:39:52Oh, yeah, because we didn't really get that the drugs were, like, really eating him alive, I think. Yeah, and we didn't really even know how, like, real he was. Like, that crazy shit was really who – they was, like, really skeptical and scared to put him with Mariah Carey. I was going to interview his son, and, like, he wound up canceling last second. Hopefully he popped back up. I don't know what he's talking about. They have a group now of all the sons of the fallen rap stars, right? There's like Lil EZ, Lil ODB, and some other ones. Rick Wong is in hell a part of it as well? I don't think he is.

3:40:27And if he was, suspect would be front row. Ready to slide. Richie Vid said, Adam, I literally go through a mental psychosis when I click on the No Jumper Live show and see Ricky. Please, if you won't fire, limit how much we have seen him. We have to see him. The news was so good yesterday, man. Yeah, I like it. I think Ricky's great. Ricky's a good American, man. Busy B Frey says shout out to Adam Munchie in the T-Mac interview from a year ago and go to the 30 minutes 45 seconds spot it's fucking hilarious keep up the good work y 'all I mean he sent 20 bucks for us to do this so I guess I gotta fucking do it T-Mac interview it is T-Mac that's my boy dominatrix homie we gotta get him and Brian Pumper up here T-Mac no jumper Brian Pumper is a goat and they said 30 minutes and 45 seconds we gotta get to the full one though these are just the clips full interview it thinks that crit mac is more important than tmac that's ironically i don't seem to be able to find the tmac age restricted the title says some bdsm shit oh that's a good point bdsm put that in the title

3:41:41hmm well it showed me uh tania and nova before it showed me tmac wow that's crazy I feel bad that this guy gave us 20 bucks and then we can't find this but maybe I'll just google it T-Mac No Jumper who is T-Mac? he's a dominatrix that Munchie met in an Uber that's out what? hey no he cool people I rock with him to this day that shouted crazy oh here it is finally got it do you remember the minute? 30 minutes and 45 seconds. Okay. He's going by my face shots. Or something all black niggas is sized up. Yeah, any pictures I have, because usually when you got those type of profiles, you have pictures and videos of your experience showing what you're doing to women.

3:42:35Right. Basically, you can tell somebody, they can read your profile, and you can say I'm this, this, that, and that. But when they see it, see the actual proof, that lets them know, Okay, he's serious. Hey, look, where the website for the fetishes? They don't want to f*** a blind n***a. Like, n***a. No, no, no. For real, like, where's that, though? Hey, look, look, look, look. Mike, why'd you get so geeked up? He doesn't stand up and kind of pull his hands up. That was the same dance he was doing on the ghost. He wasn't f***ing playing. I'm not joking. He's like, where the f*** that s*** at? Where they at?

3:43:11Hey, you want to know what's crazy, though? Knock the hoarders up? I was on the internet and then I ran across some shit. It said, Crip joins law enforcement, then goes down for robbery. Why they was talking about him? They was talking about T-Mac? T-Mac, bro. Wait, really? Bro, they said Crip, because he went out there to, where did I say? Fuck, to say that important. you know what I'm saying he joined law enforcement after like college you know what I'm saying and then he quit cause of the unjust out there came back out to LA and was hitting licks and went to jail and I ran across the story I said hey bro this is you what he said he's the hall here there you go you told me about the freaky part he didn't tell me the real shit oh he didn't tell you about the gangster shit he probably doesn't want to fuck up his image nah I know the gangster shit I didn't know he was out there playing I put it together but I'm like that fool was one time I'm like Tyrone something I'm like Bro, this is...

3:44:13Then it said that the community he from, this is him. That's amazing. You might need to spin the block interview, bro, again. No, no, I'll be out there in more time. I'm going to get him and Brian Pumper up here. Oh, my God. So many people have been sending me Brian Pumper clips lately, which at least makes me happy that they're not in jail. I saw him crossing the street on Instagram. I've seen the same reel of him crossing the street like 10 times. No, he be on the bus a lot. He be on the bus. I know. I don't know why he's so scared of doing interviews. He be on the green line. Honestly, the only person that's as mysterious as Brian Pumper is Doughboy.

3:44:45They both have a variety of different weird things going on that you can't really explain. Different arcs. Yeah, well, we know how Brian Pumper got his money. But, bro, I seen them yesterday pressing Doughboy about the Kevin on stage thing, wouldn't say shit. And that's the same reason why Brian Pumper won't do an interview. I don't know why, but it's mysterious. I mean, it could be as simple as what Moose Man exposes, just being like he didn't want to be around him because he was drunk too much that's what moose said i mean having been around doughboy for almost a year yeah i could i could totally understand someone not wanting to do a podcast with him might be the best movie ever made he's been up from there yeah he's doing amazing lush from lush from ifg said let me tell you something about munchie b and that's on a dead home he could went to washington homecoming and was in the stands and walked out that motherfucker and none happened to cut which they always say this but now it's funny because now it's lush but from Englewood family saying it Richie Vid said Adam because you won't fire Ricky I assaulted my granny out of anger and seeing him on screen I spent one month in county jail now I'm just getting out it's your fault I ran four fades though and held my own these are my confessions you put your hands on granny bro that's elder abuse great man Masonic Sigma shout out for the five bucks Quinton Woodson said Boosie has a song with a whole informant Facts from Springfield, Illinois I wonder who that is I don't know I wouldn't be surprised somebody he's done a oh he's saying he did a song with a rat I was saying like for sure over the years somebody that he did a podcast with if you have the bag you can get a Boosie feature you shoot him like yeah 15 ,000 yeah I did a cameo for a fucking pedophile the other day how you know he's a pedophile somebody told me I still don't know if it's true I did the cameo for 40 bucks and then somebody just hits me up and says that dude rapes girls oh damn it's already done now you can't undo it I knew that was a possibility when I started doing the cameos though I knew it was going to happen sooner or later I was thinking more like some I've tried to request like yeah oh shit yeah I don't know that's funny Masonic Sigma great show to the members tonight.

3:47:01To the members, off-topic question on the show, The Drop. Would you play a character from your enemy's territory for the right amount of money, or is that a line that you'd never cross? I don't know what The Drop is. The Snowfall, man. That problem in... Oh, it's like a new version of it? Yeah, it's the... After Snowfall, they're in like the music game. Yeah, it's like a rapper that's going... As a hip-hop platform, you need to be watching that, dude. Isn't Buddy into... I've been saying that I wanted to see Snowfall for like five years or whatever. That's a spinoff. I've never seen it. I would watch Snowfall.

3:47:32Actually, you know what? I watched like the first five minutes of an episode. And then I got bored. I can easily play a crip in a movie. Easy. Yeah. Put some makeup over Monster right here. You know what somebody said to me the other day? They were like, why do you like black art more than white art? And I'm like, that's not true. They're like, well, you do a podcast about rap. I'm like, yeah, but I'll take Seinfeld in the office over fucking Living Single and Martin. Over Martin? All day. And also, there is no way that you can argue that Martin is better than Seinfeld. Office is my favorite show.

3:48:01Okay, good. I'm just saying, I don't think anybody could argue that Martin's better than Seinfeld. I like Curb Your Enthusiasm better than Seinfeld. Agreed. I disagree, but I can understand the argument. No, that's like the evolved version of Seinfeld. Yeah. But Seinfeld is classic. I still think Seinfeld's so much funnier. Because every episode of Curb just feels like one long, drawn-out joke. Man, where's Kramer at? He's still alive. He's still alive. I don't think he gives any work. Adam knows what he's... I said the other day he laid out a seat he's at the meetings I don't know exactly where he is no I just read about him over the years and shit yeah alright well Martin is number one I put top five black comedy shows of all time Martin number one Fresh Prince number two Sanford and Son number three notice that all of these are like unbelievably old the Cosby show In Living Color is five?

3:48:51and then In Living Color I'll take In Living Color over Saturday Night Live don't kill me how does In Living Color five? I could binge watch Fresh Prince. Yeah, Fresh Prince is enduring. It's still relevant to this day. And Moise. You know what is coming to mind as the best modern black show I can think of? Atlanta. That's a great show. I never finished it, but it was so fucking good. Let us fire. Okay, top 10 black TV shows in general of the last 10 years. Sitcoms aren't even a thing no more like that, though. No. Yeah, yeah. No, for sure. Sitcoms are pretty dead. Okay, Atlanta's number one, so I aced that.

3:49:31Insecure, never seen it, never heard about it. That's Issa Rae. I got to check that out. I don't know anything about that. I don't know who the fuck Issa Rae is. Abbott Elementary, never heard of it. Watchmen, had no idea that that was a black show in any way. HBO is about Tulsa, Oklahoma. Oh. It starts off with Tulsa, Oklahoma and the Black Wall Street. And that's how that happened in the comic book originally as well? Because it's based on comic book, right? Yeah. Or no? Yeah, it is. Oh, okay. but no I don't know how true it is to the comic book but that's how the show starts interesting and then Snowfall I May Destroy You the fact that there's so many shows that I've never heard of is strange when they see us yeah it should be Pea Valley, Pose and Queen Sugar I'm going to say I haven't heard of more than half of those I heard of Pea Valley for sure yeah I've seen Pea Valley that's the gay show I thought it was about some strippers It's a strip club show but the dude that owns it is trans Oh yeah okay I uh I was very partial to Top Boy Top Boy is fire I assume did not make the cut because it's based in England But one of those shows was British on this list Oh yeah you're right But I also think this list is a bit skewed Because half those shows are not bigger than Power or Empire for that matter But maybe Power and Empire don't get the respect And also I feel like Empire is before the last 10 years possibly started started before that for sure yeah but it was still on in like 2015 yeah but maybe they wanted to start with shows that started it's possible you know um okay we're almost done here i guess that was yeah 10 over 10 years dn civilian sent 10 bucks thank you man i appreciate it shadow moses says shout out to nick jay kitten sitting like a good little boy as your boss yells at your bay this is where your old cheating ex meant when she said that you weak to be fair to be fair that's just the homegirl and uh we you know that's just my friend and uh she was kind of tripping she was yeah i mean i had no desire to be mean to her be negative in any way that was not like based on me already having negative feelings for her i would talk to anybody like that if they were talking without a mic during a podcast we also combating you in yeah and then try to argue with me she'd been chilling for like a few hours and everything It was cool.

3:51:45I think that it was just a moment. She was cool. She just don't know how to act. So, you know. Probably just not used to this environment type shit. She's a fiery Latina. Yeah, I know. Shots to the baby girl. I don't know about baby girl, but. Well, I'm just not trying to die. I'm just not trying to. She's a woman. Okay. And then C Hustle said, they just said 6ix9ine a PDF. And right after that, you said, that's my boy. LOL. You weird at him.

3:52:10Listen. I'm in the rap game. People make mistakes and then they move on in their life. Listen, okay, okay. Here's what I would cut 6ix9ine off if I thought that he had in any way had sexual relations with a child. Okay. If you have a case in which, like, as far as I've known, and maybe the details are different, but he went to a music video shoot and there was a girl that he didn't know who was wearing underwear and shaking ass in the music video and that he was in the music video and I think at one point gestured towards her or whatever or maybe smacked her ass or something. I think he smacked her butt.

3:52:53Either way, that explanation, if that is true, is a pretty killer explanation because you're saying that you had no knowledge that this girl was underage, that you yourself were extremely young. He says himself, he says, I posted it on Instagram. Would I have posted it on Instagram if I thought that this girl was underage? Obviously not. I found all that pretty compelling but what did Flacco say what did Flacco say you said Flacco had a compelling case I don't like to say what Flacco said he breaks down the paperwork it's somebody else that blasted it but my thing with that the dude that's blasting it you had a falling out with 6ix9ine so how long have you known this oh yeah you know what I'm saying but 6ix9ine story is way different do I think that 6ix9ine is a present day creep towards underage girls?

3:53:42No. Well, he went and got up on another underage one, but was saved because he was in the right state. Eddie? I never heard of that. Yeah. Really? Mm.

3:53:53PDF purge, man. The PDF purge. And also, per the previous comment, Adam was kind of right for tripping on my ex, too, because look how that turned out. Come on, man. He didn't really trip on her. He wasn't yelling. Oh, you said your ex. Call the cops on her. Yeah. Oh, that's your ex. Oh, no. No, no, no. Not her today. Oh, he said your ex. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, bro, he was offended for you, bro. He felt she was getting better. I felt like he was trying to be a good friend to the best of his ability. He was getting fed up. I was very pro-germ for a long time because I thought that she was going to be the person that was going to be most likely to make you stop doing drugs or at least do less drugs.

3:54:32But then she starts saying, we're giving them the drugs up here. Yeah, she started saying that, which is not true. And then she also started beating him so bad. at one point he couldn't go to work for a week that that was really funny i'm sorry that's is that true that's when i said okay yeah it is this is not okay hey no i laughed because i heard i'm like i feel like lush one the way my bitch would be beating me what was that noise bro like what like i'm laughing at but you know Did you go for something? No, I was just like... He go for something. I'm like... He like... Oh, shit. I'll go for free germ.

3:55:07No, I wish I could argue. Oh, shit. Free germ. Free germ. Shadow Moses said, Hey, Adam, you still saying chimping out? We know you had a grand old time saying in front of your bell your token black friend just wasn't sharing. Why they throw bell under that? I do feel like it's fair to make a joke that involves the terminology chimping out if it was funny. I think that's really the standard I hold almost everything to is that it's going to be funny. No, the only way you could do that and it's a joke, you're trying to make it a joke, is if you're balanced across the board and you are willing to do that by everybody.

3:55:45Well, yeah, I'll admit that I think that the bean slur is pretty funny if used in the right context. you know I think I said fag earlier in this episode so yeah right in England not so much here I feel more like you know yeah like every everybody's like offensive stuff should probably be like used for comedy at some point I had never heard it or into like a couple days before the chat the builder like not I was I'd never paid attention I heard it like at this table and then a couple days before that yeah I heard didn't I heard it on the table right I didn't to know what the fuck it was it probably it was bad timing what because it was so so soon like did was that like a like a uh it was like in the midst of that controversy and he was telling a story of when he was hanging out with his homie and said it in front of him or whatever and i made the joke about how when i said oh my god we're chimping out and i like looked around to make sure it was there and then everybody used that as if i was being super serious as if i give a fuck be like you looked around because you were worried about people were gonna think about you I'm like no that was a fucking joke and now I do a podcast for a bunch of assholes who can't take jokes and so that's great I love that that's really fun no they just like to weaponize moments I know but that's what I'm saying is that we do a podcast in which we obviously are joking around and making jokes the whole time and then some percentage of the of the fans take what are very obviously jokes and then decide that they want to get performatively offended by them to make content on their own platforms I get it not doing but also you guys are fucking F slurs.

3:57:18I don't want to say it too many times. We're going to demonetize. Yeah. So, but for sure, we need to be able to joke about the Jews too. Them, they're funny as fuck. They wear little hats. They got curly fly, curly fly sideburns. Curly fly sideburns. I'm not supposed to laugh at that. Curly fly sideburns. I mean, I'm just saying, the craziest haircut you could ever imagine in a million years. Curly fly sideburns. He's a good bird, bro. Every time I see a Jewish guy on the street, I just think like, seriously, with a little hat. You gonna speak up for the Jews? That shit's comfortable? No, and I fuck with the Jews like heavy.

3:57:54I'm a fucking Christian, bro. I don't know what you're talking about. You hook up? Bro. I ain't never been from that shit. Oh, shit. Bro, as soon as I heard Moose saying free fucking Palestine on the cipher, I was like, damn, I should have had an Israel bar. Oh, shit. I had one. You should have went last, huh? I should have, yeah. You should have went last. Bro, it was good. They got me right in my moment. um scope said million dollars worth of game gets more views than you do on the tuesday show it's your best show on your platform what you seem to be leaving out because apparently our audience is entirely consisting of jackasses now is that you're referring to huge interviews with big names you'd have you'd be wiser to compare this podcast to like the episodes that they do that's just them which i don't even think they do anymore because they were doing so bad but um shout out to gillian wallow i fuck with gillian wallow i just i was saying i don't think they're really the powerhouse that they previously were viewed as dn civilian said i just want to let you know guys know that i'm watching thank god really glad you told us that that's right dragonite spat said dragonite clan motherfucker smh i'm talking about the cypher with y 'all though h town up he's right though we should have mentioned the clan definitely oh that's what he was talking about yeah yeah he was Dragonite.

3:59:07Talking about blue bucks and all kind of shit. Yeah, Wu-Tang, blue bucks, Ku Klux. This guy's talking about Atlanta. He said, Adam, Gattu's tore that thing up. Toes in his mouth, waterworks, and all that. Fire. Hashtag Gooners in the chat. Hey, that's my ex. I'm glad she had a good time. Hopefully they get to run it back one day. He's talking about this male porn star who banged her. This is getting more serious than serious. The ex, the single. Every day that goes by, yeah. Richie Vid said, Adam, I'm so tired. of seeing Ricky Yu-Gi-Oh pot of green Pokemon Gengar looking ass. Please stop forcing him on us.

3:59:41This is torture. Jesus Christ. So there's that. And then AI Slothgang said, I'm back at the steel mill working overtime on my crane. This is my favorite show of the week. Shout out to y 'all. Congrats on the sobriety lush. You look healthy. Keep going. Salute, brother. That's right. Patch Notes said, Rios has tonsil stones, sells bootleg designer fragrances, and blew up a rocket. I say all that to say fire dough boy I got tussles though God dog I said all that to say fire dough boy Big Mike said free and jefe that's right and then R Garcia which I hope it's the R Garcia said Lush got the weirdest facial hair your beard is weird yeah shout out to FBR and then Paper Chaser said Adam you was tripping on Lush for putting hands on Lush but watch you won't ask Wack about his accusations of hitting and intimidating the blue girls.

4:00:34By the way, it was on camera, so don't try to spin it and be biased. You are speaking as if you are a person who has not watched the podcast over the years because I have actually asked whack about freaking out on those girls. I think the most recent episode or maybe the one before that, we talked about that. He fell into his fist. The guy Paper Chaser seems like he watches the show so much and he's asking me that as if I wouldn't fucking ask him about that. When has there ever been a big whack narrative that I haven't asked him about? Thank you. Yeah. Right. It's never happened. That's not happening.

4:01:06And I never have asked him, hey, I don't want to talk about this thing. I'll say you definitely ask him. I'd say you let him get away with a lot of bullshit in his responses, but you do ask him. It's true. It's hard to do that when you're not necessarily an expert and you don't really know. Especially when he's singing Obama the Lawrider. Yeah. I mean, that was probably the most extreme example. When you think about that one, that was pretty out there. okay one more shadow Moses said disassociate from your spouse alienating your friends and use a culture for profit but condemn them when it doesn't suit your needs never take accountability anything else I missed from the 22 show where should I start here use a culture for profit but condemn them when it doesn't suit your needs how about I just condemn them because that's my actual opinion and I'm willing to have critical opinions about the culture that I am very much a part of, despite the fact that based on my skin color, many people seem to feel that I shouldn't have opinions about.

4:02:06But no, I criticize hip hop from within hip hop because hip hop is desperately in need of critics and criticism because there are clearly, even if you're barely paying attention, there's a lot of elements of hip hop that really, really need to be analyzed and discussed because there's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of fucked up stuff that happens under the roof of hip hop. Hip-hop's also too big to be considered a monolith at this point. There's a lot of varying opinions within the culture. Yeah, and I mean, you're allowed to be a conservative person and listen to hip-hop and have opinions about hip-hop.

4:02:39You're allowed to be someone who doesn't even like hip-hop and speaks about hip-hop and has opinions about hip-hop. Do you consider yourself conservative? In many ways, although I consider myself a Democrat, but I consider myself conservative on many issues. And actually, when I was taking my CCW class the other day and I realized the extent to which the Democrats have really eroded our gun rights in this country. Right. I really started to think, you know what? Fuck the gays. Fuck abortion. I'm voting on guns from now on. That's the motivating. I mean, when you just see all the limitations placed on the concealed carry on behalf of the left, it's just disgusting.

4:03:16It's like they've made it so it's like kind of easy to get a CCW now, but then they have insane restrictions on it. You can't even go to the post office. I'm the number one. You can't leave it in the trunk of your car while you're at the post office. Really? Yeah. That's stupid. Post office is what's the color of it? It's a government building. Yeah, government buildings, you can't have your gun. Oh, you mean you have to leave it in the trunk when you go into a government building? No, you leave it in the trunk, you're still technically committing a federal crime. You want to make parking lot?

4:03:42Yeah. Oh, shit. There's way more to it. It's fucking crazy. Don't get parked. Yeah, it was pretty funny that my teacher at the gun class, like a little after a little while he pulled me aside and said i know who you are i'm gonna pass you i know why i know why you're taking me that information i need to go to that guy was great yeah no but okay you know what's really funny about the two is that like so obviously he cares about teaching the ccw class but also he clearly believes that you shouldn't have to take this stupid ass 16 hour class in order to have a gun so yeah he's a little passive about some people paying attention in class and stuff like that but there are there are limits he said there was one uh teacher who was letting the the class take a two-hour lunch break and that they found out about that and they had to shut it down because that obviously it's not not good damn yeah there There was also a fat guy in the class who tried to ask me how to get into porn.

4:04:46They all knew you. You called him his weight? Hey, man, they got to start their own genre, bro. Honestly, like, total asshole. I'm looking at my phone. I look at his body, and I just go, yeah, you're going to have to figure it out on your own. You told him like that? Yeah. I was like, it's got to be in you, not on you. You can't just want to do it. You got to be the kind of guy who's going to be able to do it. I tell him I can't give you any advice because number one advice is get in shape, idiot. Yeah. If you were that guy, you would be doing it. Yeah, exactly. And I told him, I'm like, if you really want to get into it, you got to find a girl and make your own content with her.

4:05:19And that'll act as your resume. It's not the same. That wasn't good enough for him. It's not the same as like being a rapper where you like, you'd be like, oh, let me hear a verse, minute verse right quick. You can't like put on a demo. That's what I told P-Nice. That's how that worked out. He had the footy. P-Nice had the footy on day. Yeah, he showed me a couple clips. I mean honestly P-Nice could knock it out of the park as a porn star committed this guy but I don't really like if you're a guy and you want to get into porn just don't don't tell me I have nothing to tell you I'm not going to help you at a competition no I just don't I have nothing to gain from that I recently found out how much the top male OnlyFans creators make it's not much they must not have been paying attention to class talking about that shit in class It must have been lax.

4:06:08No, because we got a 10-minute break every hour. 10-minute break every hour? I know. It's got a lot. God damn. But I did. I sat there for eight hours on a Saturday from noon to 9.30, including the lunch break. Oh, shit. And frequently throughout it, I thought, like, is this seriously what I'm doing with my life? And I'm going to, I guess, have to do this again in three years or two years or something. Did they be passing people? I took a motorcycle class off of Crenshaw and right over there by Riley's Burgers. that's the hood yeah and uh oh ingwood or a heartthorn i mean go up oh yeah that's the and so at the end of the class they had us all line up and take our bikes in the line the girl crashed into everybody boom rear-ended everybody fell off fell forward off her bike and it was the ending of the class it was over and they still passed that's super funny was bro sad when you told him that like yo you can't you like i can't help you with your aspirations he just didn't seem he was just trying to make conversation i don't even think he was serious he just no but when i shut it down he kept kind of like going with he's like so i'm like you gotta like make your own content and just figure it out from there and he's kind of like so there's not like big companies that i could like go to apply to vivid doesn't exist but i'm like ask but i'm like no not really like do you know what the guys who the big companies higher look like they look like fucking black panther extras not you not brother man god damn and is it there are white guys who do it guess what they're all in really good shape and they all have like really big dicks for white guys they don't have like ones that's like bagging on people like the they're supposed to be fat and like weird like no no round the way porn yeah my prediction one go come along bro super normal porn you know a fat male porn star Why?

4:08:05Who would hire him and for what purpose? I guess that was the right term here. He gonna change the game. Watch. It's gonna be him and he gonna be the unicorn. Watch. I feel like I have a very good idea of what people want from porn. I feel like I have an idea of what races are not that popular, what body types are not that popular. There's not popular races? Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Don't let me say it. I'm not gonna say it. But I know this much. It's Asian. No. It's not? I mean. Why wouldn't... That's crazy. don't you gotta talk about like that's crazy i mean okay vixen is like the one of the biggest porn companies and they have like a subdivision that's called blacked and the theme of it is basically big black guys fucking white a lot of white girls but like asian hispanic whatever sometimes black but also black women don't do well in porn i think people's inherent racism very much comes through in who they choose to jerk off to there's nobody watching to tell you like hey that's racist if you don't click on her video that's crazy because i thought man i would have thought that was more popular aren't there some porn stars that don't won't have sex with black men yeah like that or like your first scene with a black guy is like a thing you can charge more that's so fucking crazy interesting and i've had girls ask me like should i work with a black guy or should i wait to do my first scene with a black guy and i was like you know there's a very fine line here between like good business advice and me saying something that could be construed as racist in the future but it's but if you're being honest with her like if she does yeah to be honest yeah first and they like blackballer kind of any well not blackball but like anybody okay i'll put it like this you want to create moments as a porn star that will be very exciting for your fans first time you do anal is really exciting first time you shoot with two guys at same time is exciting first time you uh do any kind of fetish stuff is exciting to the people like the fetish stuff you know like basically anything anytime you do anything for the first time is going to be a moment that your fans will pay for and your first time with a black guy is a moment that your fans will pay for so if i was a white girl getting into the porn game i would shoot with white guys probably for whatever my first 10 scenes or whatever it is and then i would this kind of depends on you actually being popular in the first place because if you're not popular you get to shoot with vixen you don't even know who you're shooting with you just show up It's like a glory hole.

4:10:27Wow, this is a good way to end this pod. Brick, baby. Hey. Brick, baby. Oh, shit. What's the big old deal? Hey, what's going on? Are you guys still on air, it sounds like? Yeah, we were just about to wrap it up, but we got 10 minutes for the brick, man. Hey, I just was tapping in. What's going on? What's the latest and the greatest? We just did the cipher. so we found a random park out here by the office and we claimed that and that's now the No Jumper Park.

4:11:05Which one? The one right down the street? Yeah, it could have been any park. We were just trying to find a park that didn't have any kids in it. Another park. He loves it. Who was on this cypher? So it was Munchy, Me, Lush, Moose Man, Ricky, Doughboy, That's it. Steven. And then, yeah, a quick appearance from one of the Edgar boys. Yeah. Tell him how you took Josh off. The Edgar boys. Josh got took off Bad and Bougie. Oh, wow. Do he look like he's been left off Bad and Bougie? Yeah. Actually, if you saw his outfit today, yeah. His rapping wasn't like, bro, his outfit today, when I saw him walking up, I'm like, there's no way he's shooting a video dressed like that.

4:11:50He's looking New Hampshire as fuck. New Hampshire as fuck is crazy. Hey, that's the flag that he's bringing. This call is from a federal prison. At Raw NH Energy. You feel me? NH. We all got it. We all got it, man. Shiz, how's life? How you doing in there? Oh, man, cool. They moved my floor. They kind of shook me up last week. I couldn't use the phone and shit because they moved the floor. They blew up our own door. How come? Y 'all were cripping too crazy? Yeah. You know, when them kites start getting dropped, when them kites start getting dropped, it's time to move around. They don't like just seeing the kites moving back and forth?

4:12:37And I'm talking about when they start going to the police. On the undercover snitch on you? They know what I'm talking about. Oh, shit. They have moved me up here with the boy, though. Oh, loose?

4:12:58How's that going? He's chilling?

4:13:06You on your dean or what? Me? Not because of him. I go to Jumaan and pray for myself. But they starting to get through to you is Allah's teaching starting to make sense to you Oh shit, really I Learn something new about brick every time I didn't know he was he said oh shit. I don't know what that means How you don't know he Muslim man because he was Christian last time I I wanted to tell him that I'm on a lonely mission as well he might call back or maybe i don't know do we have more supers or no she said the the phone went out on him that's what this girl said free crick casey a couple minutes here i heard him say oh shit they probably cut the phone oh and she said yeah hung up the whole call so i guess we'll wait a couple minutes here but uh big mike said six nine's paperwork says that he was 19 and the girl was 13 that's crazy unacceptable thanks unforgivable however unforgivable his statement is that he didn't have sex with her.

4:14:20He didn't know how old the girl was. He didn't know her before walking into the room. Now, I'm open-minded about new versions of this. So, I don't know. But the version that he's been telling publicly all these years, I always thought was pretty effective at making it make sense. And he put everything on the dude, the dude he was with. Which is almost kind of a tell. That it's like, if you put everything on this other guy and you didn't, I did nothing wrong. it was all him and that kind of makes you think like this maybe also that that i don't know defense is like the most common thing that all of the chris henson exposes but why would you say incriminating stuff about yourself though like he would never say the incriminating shit about himself especially knowing that 99 of people are never going to go read the paperwork but also like that's kind of the beauty of to catch predator which i did not see that movie i'm probably not going to realistically but like they have it in writing yeah so there is so you can laugh at the dudes and judge the dudes and you don't have to think well what maybe you didn't know or maybe you know because they trot out the fucking text messages right away right in that but that's their instinct immediately is to be i don't know i didn't know always yeah all right i'm guessing breaking and calling back but uh and then the final one is just k k said munchies ad libs that no one catches are golden you go through a lot in life you ain't going through my phone and he wants his baby back like ribs shout out to Lush Sober that's a factoid shout out to Lush being sober shout out to everybody who watched this shout out to Rios go watch Society of Freedom go watch Lush 1's channel we got a few little things up there dig through the crate and then shout out to Munchie B Morals over money I gotta say it slow so I don't say it too fast yeah yeah yeah Cypher coming.

4:16:14Cypher coming, man. Rios is going to be able to actually pass judgment. Him and Josh can do a pod together and let us know what they think. And Jay Hood. And Jay Hood. I'm going to go check out the park, see what it looks like at nighttime. Yeah. Yo, you better be careful. It's like fucking Jesse Owens over there. You can get your top blown off if you're looking the wrong way. Nah, that was the funny thing, though, is that a black girl was, like, walking by and she kept kind of, like, glancing over and, like, clearly was just thinking like what the fuck is going on in my neighborhood and like we were like wondering like when she's glancing back like what is she glancing at she glancing at adam is she looking at munchie standing on top of the sign like there goes the neighborhood the property value just got diminished amazing all right shout out to everybody watch this appreciate y 'all smash the like drop a comment we need