Wack Wins Huge Lawsuit! DDG Drama Explained. 4xtra Is Bigger than The Program! & More

24 Nov 2025 · 1 h 50 min · 44 chapters

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In short

The hosts argue about culture stereotypes (deodorant use and a remote India cow-manure “poop fight” festival), then pivot to South Central L.A. gang/hood politics and content creators’ responsibilities. A major thread is DC Baby Draco being “banned” from South Central/40s after filming with rival hoods, and whether 4Xtra should align with Spodeface’s stance. They also discuss Wack 100’s huge lawsuit against WorldStar over a video alleging he’s a federal informant, and how the case may have forced discovery.

Guests (as referenced in the episode)

Spodeface (community activist; also associated with Farrakhan-related views). Moneybag Rose (co-signing/independently informing DC Baby Draco). DC Baby Draco (NorCal blogger/content creator who films across multiple L.A. hoods). 4Xtra (podcast star tied to the 40s; close relationship with Draco). Ant Hefe (mentioned as interviewing Spodeface; 4Xtra refused to sit with him). Wack 100 (lawsuit plaintiff; entertainment/legal background discussed). Blueface (mentioned as involved in introductions/meetings).

Key claims

“Banning” is driven by disrespectful filming and platforming; Draco is “neutral” but still gets blamed. Spodeface’s public Instagram stance may be “cloud” rather than private negotiation. Wack’s lawsuit succeeded/settled after WorldStar posted allegations without backing them up; discovery reportedly found no support for the specific identity claims.

Notable examples

the India cow-manure underwear poop fight; DC Baby Draco filming with Crips who burn red bandanas; Spodeface and Moneybag Rose informing Draco; WorldStar posting the informant-allegation video; Wack suing WorldStar and settling.

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Deodorant Discussion and Cultural Observations

0:00 to 0:45

The hosts delve into the cultural practices surrounding deodorant use, particularly among different ethnic groups.

“In my prison package, I got powder fresh lavender bottles of secret women's deodorant.”

Cow Poop Festival in India

0:45 to 2:10

An intriguing story about a unique cultural festival in India involving cow manure.

“I don't even trust the AI because I feel like the AI is going to be too woke to tell us the truth about Indian people.”

Cultural Differences and Indigenous Practices

2:10 to 4:00

Discussion on various cultural practices and how they reflect indigenous lifestyles around the world.

“Oh, you know, that's just chewed up grass.”

Gang Culture and Relationships

4:00 to 6:00

Exploration of gang culture dynamics, loyalty, and the complexities of relationships within it.

“They're always eating and playing with real shit.”

DC Baby Draco Controversy

6:00 to 10:43

Discussing the controversies surrounding DC Baby Draco and his interactions with various gangs.

“I'll probably end up going to the same hospital.”

Vloggers and Responsibility in Gang Culture

10:46 to 14:00

Debate on the responsibilities of vloggers when filming in gang territories and the impact of their content.

“You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new.”

Responsibility of Vloggers in Communities

14:00 to 17:21

Explore the expectations and responsibilities of vloggers when covering sensitive topics in neighborhoods.

“What you got to do is start in the hoods.”

Conflict Between Artists and Neighborhood Dynamics

17:21 to 22:31

Discuss the tensions between artists and their neighborhoods regarding collaborations and respect.

“Hey, homie, y 'all pushing this, pushing that, right?”

The Nature of Public vs. Private Disputes

22:31 to 25:54

Analyze the implications of public disagreements versus private resolutions in artistic communities.

“Everybody got people that they deal with that somebody else from their neighborhood may not deal with.”

Future of Fourxtra and Spodeface in Media

25:54 to 28:00

Speculate on the potential career trajectories of Fourxtra and Spodeface amid their ongoing dynamics.

“I see y 'all through a lot of these plays.”
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Creating Topics for Discussion

28:00 to 28:35

Learn how creating topics for podcasts can enhance discussions.

“We can sit here and just run it up by ourselves or create it.”

The Unique Rhymes of Forrestra

28:35 to 29:32

Explore the interesting rhyme structure in a song from the Forrestra album.

“I listened to the whole Forrestra album last night.”

Vlad and Joyner Lucas Interviews

29:32 to 31:18

Delve into the dynamics of interviews between Vlad and Joyner Lucas.

“Neither one of them will give you guys an interview, and y 'all be mad about it a little bit.”

Debating Vlad's Influence

31:18 to 33:24

Discuss the controversial impact of Vlad's interviews on the culture.

“Right, because you're friends with Vlad.”

Wack 100's Lawsuit Against Worldstar

33:24 to 36:13

Learn about Wack 100's legal battle with Worldstar over false claims.

“Yeah, you send it in and you sign off a clearance.”

The Role of Big U in the Case

36:13 to 42:00

Explore Big U's involvement in the legal claims against Wack 100.

“I don't know if they talked about it on the news, but.”

Understanding the Connections

42:00 to 43:10

Explore how relationships in business influence outcomes.

“I've had to deal with all these dudes call they self-defending him, don't know him.”

The WorldStar Lawsuit Experience

43:10 to 45:12

Hear about the legal battles and past experiences with WorldStar.

“Think about how many random clips they post every day of some girl twerking on some guy and she shits her pants or whatever.”

The Complexity of Federal Informants

45:12 to 46:34

Delve into the challenges of proving informant status in court.

“Like, how could you really definitively prove that that's not the case?”

Navigating Legal Challenges in the Industry

46:34 to 48:12

Learn about the importance of legal teams in the entertainment business.

“See, when you come with defamation and slander, ain't none of that.”

Networking and New Ventures

48:12 to 53:14

Discover how networking leads to new business opportunities in music.

“I was the only dude running around here that can get music and songs in rotation on the radio like the majors.”

Expanding No Jumper's Vision

53:14 to 56:00

Discuss strategies for expanding the No Jumper brand and its offerings.

“You know, a lot of, My phone book is crazy.”

Wack's New Content Deal Insights

56:00 to 57:20

Wack discusses an upcoming content deal and the evolution of their collaboration.

“Actually, he did try to call me a couple times the other day.”

Streaming Landscape and Aiden Ross

57:20 to 59:10

Exploration of the current streaming landscape and Wack's views on Aiden Ross and other streamers.

“Shout out to my man, High, and shout out to my man, Ty, out here.”

The Changing Nature of Entertainment

59:10 to 1:01:00

Discussion on how entertainment preferences are evolving and the impact on traditional content.

“I'm a total different look to his fans, right?”

Forrester's Injury and Its Aftermath

1:01:00 to 1:03:20

Conversations about Forrester's injury and humorous takes on prosthetics and combat.

“It's just for what he's doing in his community to help better his community, whether people know about it or not.”

DDG's Seriousness and Past Encounters

1:03:20 to 1:10:03

Discussion about DDG's seriousness during their recent encounter and reflections on past interactions.

“This is the stupidest thing I've ever typed in Chad GVT.”

Resolving Past Conflicts with DDG

1:10:03 to 1:12:08

Learn about the evolving relationship between the speakers and DDG, including apologies and reconciliations.

“We didn't have our spats and got over it, right?”

A House Party Incident Involving DDG

1:12:08 to 1:14:09

Explore a story from a past house party involving DDG and the misunderstandings that arose from it.

“there were so many little things that I'm mentioning in that clip or that we're talking about that have completely left my memory.”

Discussion on DDG's Character and Public Perception

1:14:09 to 1:16:22

Discuss the character of DDG and how perceptions change over time in the industry.

“it was nothing see this is what you gotta understand when somebody getting their ass whooped your ass is gonna be on camera.”

Prison Dynamics and Incarceration Reality

1:16:22 to 1:18:29

Learn about the realities of prison dynamics, including how inmates are categorized and their experiences.

“Remo learned a lot from you, though, because Remo would be doing the same thing you do.”

Misconceptions About Prison Rape

1:18:29 to 1:20:53

Analyze the societal misconceptions regarding sexual violence in prison and how they differ between genders.

“Yeah, if you've been married, children, job, employment, all that knocks points off.”

Discussion on Prison Classification Systems

1:20:53 to 1:21:43

Understand how prisoners are classified and the implications of these classifications on their time served.

“Now, if you telling them I can't go over there, I got an enemy over there, you know, you want to be a keep away, then they'll make the adjustment.”

Business and Entertainment Intersections at Events

1:21:43 to 1:24:00

Hear about the intersection of business and entertainment at a concert event involving Burner Boy.

“When you're on that, listen, when Tory, what you saw happen to Tory?”

Behind the Scenes at the Show

1:24:00 to 1:26:42

Learn about the behind-the-scenes dynamics at a major concert event.

“Blue, I don't know if he was paying attention, y 'all going to get in the G-Wagon.”

Content Creation and Networking

1:26:42 to 1:28:09

Discover the importance of creating content and networking in the industry.

“So at that point, when you come off from a two-hour set, you hot, you exhausted, you want to shower, you trying to get in.”

Upcoming Collaborations and Trends

1:28:09 to 1:29:08

Explore potential collaborations and trends in the entertainment industry.

“Maybe he wants to show the world what he can do.”

Fashion and Celebrity Culture

1:29:08 to 1:31:40

Discuss the influence of fashion on celebrity culture and lifestyle.

“You know, DDG has some crazy-ass boots on.”

Cultural References and Humor

1:31:40 to 1:34:45

Analyze humorous cultural references made in the conversation.

“Oh, Adam, there's no way you didn't see that, bro.”

Reviewing Internet Personalities

1:34:45 to 1:37:27

Examine the impact of internet personalities in the current media landscape.

“We ain't playing with the homie like that.”

Language and Communication in Pop Culture

1:37:27 to 1:38:01

Understand how language and slang shape communication in pop culture.

Unique Expressions and Language

1:38:01 to 1:39:25

Explore the unique phrases and expressions used by a specific individual and their impact.

“I love how he stops his sentences and just says on lanes like constantly.”

Influence of Prison Life on Content Creation

1:39:26 to 1:40:49

Discuss the evolution of content creation from prison and the remarkable figures involved.

“There's no way that them people ain't jealous of him and them correctional officers don't know he on YouTube.”

Closing Remarks and Audience Engagement

1:40:50 to 1:41:42

The hosts wrap up the discussion, encouraging audience interaction and upcoming content.

“If anything, and I only ain't did it because I'm real close to one of his big homies.”
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0:00In my prison package, I got powder fresh lavender bottles of secret women's deodorant. That's a fact. I believe that I could not wear deodorant and thrive in life. Yeah, but that's part of you guys' culture. The Candidates from the Cocker's Mountains. Very few white people don't wear deodorant. But what? It's very rare. You crazy. In my life, I've probably three girls that permanently never wore deodorant. And all of them, the whole time, I was thinking about how bad they smell. The Caucasians and the Indians. Okay, this doesn't need to be a historical thing. I'm talking about like right now. People from India, right now, go over there, go to Europe, get in a taxi with one of them driving and watch what happens.

0:44They do not wear anything. Is that a fact? It's a fact. I don't even trust the AI because I feel like the AI is going to be too woke to tell us the truth about Indian people. They don't wear it. They don't. Do Indian people not wear deodorant in India? They don't, bro. I mean, I believe you. I guess. It says most people in India do use deodorant. It's a stereotype, and you are a hate monger. Stereotype my ass. India has a huge deodorant market. Deodorant is a massive industry there with tons of popular brands. Climate differences explain something. It's so hot that a lot of people shower a couple times a day.

1:22A lot of them, I know the ones in Europe, and they look at you like you crazy. Like, it's no big deal. I just thought it was part of their culture. Well, so you don't know about the Indian poop throwing festival? Oh. There's a YouTube video that this guy made where he went to this remote village in India, and people will save up the cow for like six months, and then they all meet up in the middle of the town center and they'll dump out, you know, like a giant, it's like the size of your car worth of cow shit. Everybody dumps it all in a huge pile and then everybody strips down to like their underwear basically and then just has a huge poop fight.

2:08Of cow manure. Yes. Oh, you know, that's just chewed up grass. That has been processed through a cow's body, yes. I mean, really. Chewed up grass. What is poop? I mean, hamburgers, pizza, Chinese food? No, all they eat is chewed up as grass. Hey. But you're not kind of like grossed out by it regardless? I mean, I think that's part of their culture. It's some places on Earth, bro, that's like, they still have indigenous people. They got areas to where we can't go over there because they would literally get sick. that last time they let some white dudes come over there and kill half of them. Some little area I saw.

2:49Cycle of life, you know, hey. Yeah, like they don't. Maybe that's just how it's meant to be. They don't, there ain't no cars, there ain't no none of that. Okay, but in that same documentary, they found one guy who eats little pieces of cow poop. He thinks it makes his immune system stronger. Oh, I don't know. I mean, you got to, I don't know what's going on. I don't think he's correct. But either way, like Indian people in general are freaking out about the fact that this guy made this documentary because there's already so much anti-Indian racism that now this documentary is convincing a lot of people that everybody's eating poop.

3:23I don't think stuff is racism. If it's things you guys do, that's just things you guys do. Now, all of them may not participate in these things, but watch this. What other culture do we know saves up cow manure, dumps it out, strips down to their underwear, And throw it at each other. To be fair, though, I think that this is like a pretty remote phenomenon. Like, there's not a lot of villages that do this. But this village is in India. Yeah, but like imagine if there was like one criphood in L.A. that was eating and playing with shit. It's like, it wouldn't be fair to be like L.A. gangbangers, you know?

4:01They're always eating and playing with real shit. No, we don't say that neighborhood is known for that. I know, but like that, we could say that about that Indian village. We just, we're too ignorant. We don't give a fuck about that. Okay, well, listen, L.A. gang members do drive-bys. True. Okay, that mostly is true, yeah. Everybody hasn't done one, but guess what? Listen, you part of that culture. They're going to look at you as such. Yeah, not me. I'm more of a walk-down kind of guy. You're not L.A. gang. Get up out the car. Four extras in them and brick baby them, and what started with AD, they just made you feel that way so they can hit your pockets.

4:35No, that never happened. You actually know that never happened. You was a jump off. Never that. You was a jump off that never got jumped on. You don't think that they would have been the first ones to share those anecdotes if I was getting taxed? Brother, you were getting taxed. Not for money. Maybe for like my stress levels. Brick Baby hit you with the fake bail. That was taxed. The paperwork. I don't think that was a fake bail. But we don't need to get into all that. But either way. The paperwork says it was no bail. I can't hold the finesse. You can't blame a finesser for finessing. With Brick Baby, I got to.

5:08So you calling it finesse. That's finesse. That's finesse six times. Yeah, y 'all look different. That's get work. You think I should ask for a fade when he gets out? See, I think you should ask for your money. And a fade? Bonus fade? I don't think Brick Baby can stand to fight. He got injuries. You don't think the gangsterism would just come through to defeat me? No, I get what you mean. gangsterism doesn't automatically come to you because you from a gang. So a bunch of punks and busters from gangs. Don't you think that him surviving having been shot in the neck and all this stuff? I don't know.

5:49I just feel like that would help him to beat my ass. Him surviving getting shot has nothing to do with him. It's probably a negative. That has something to do with the hospital. Well, that's true too. I'll probably end up going to the same hospital. If you'd have got shot and laid out there and told everybody don't call 911 and when the paramedics came, man, I'm not getting in there. I'm just going to lay here and heal. I'm just laying here and just straight up healed up on some savage shit, then maybe I might tell you he's a monster. But when any human being gets hurt or harmed, the first thing they want to do, the first thing they scream at is for help.

6:26Yeah, that's true. Well, that's why Brick will never turn his back on Chitty Cuz. Because he saved him when he got shot up, I guess, one time. He should turn his back on him possess his homie. They up under the same name. Yeah, but he had to deal with a lot of, as a result of that. Deal with what? Just people mad as f***ing him about something that really didn't have anything to do with him. They can't be mad at him. He ain't got nothing to do with it. They up under the same name. I don't know who put who on or whatever it may be, but you can't get mad at somebody else's actions. I got homies that didn't, if that's the case, shit, are they mad at each other?

6:59They got some homies that's rapists. They got some homies who straight bullets and killed innocent people. You mad at them? That is crazy. They was using that as an excuse to really express how they really truly felt about Brick Baby. Probably was hating on him. He was pretty good about finding his way. Or just like, I think they probably would have been more cool with him if he had just sort of like disowned him publicly more so. Yeah, but then they would have looked at him like a buster. Yeah. Because they'd have been like, you disowned. in the back of their head, we made you this homie, because what's your homie do to you?

7:37Now, Brick Baby looking at it like, what if that was him in a situation? Would I want my homie to turn his back on me? Yeah. You know, it's part of a brotherhood or a comradeship with those people that fall upon the same name. Nah, facts. Well, as long as we're dissecting the politics of various crip hoods in South Central L.A., are you familiar with what's been going on with this D.C. Baby Draco scenario? Yes, definitely. So Spodeface and Moneybag Rose both kind of independently informed DC Baby Draco, NorCal blogger, who at this point probably most NoJumper fans know who this is, but they basically informed him that he was essentially banned from South Central slash the role in the 40s.

8:21Who did he start from? Who started it? Who started it? Well, I mean, DC Baby Draco's been doing a lot of content with a lot of different hoods in L.A., really bouncing between. He's in the 40s. He's with the swans. He's in the jungles. He's just with like a lot of different games. So they hating on him. So I think. They hating on him. Well, he filmed a vlog with some bloods. So what? Who used their time on camera to diss some dead people, some enemy hoods, et cetera. He filmed this time with Crips who burned red bandanas. What that got to do with him? He's showing up with the cameras. They hating on him.

8:55They hate if DC baby Draco. How's his numbers looking? Pretty decent. I bet if he wasn't getting no traction and wasn't making a bag, they can care less. I don't care who it is. Get mad. You hate on him. Now, if you're going to get mad, right, if you's a crip, who you say? Money back roles and who? Spoty face. Spoty face. Then y 'all need to be over there hollering at the crips that's going on the camera doing what they doing. The bloods who you going over there, we ain't got nothing to say. I ain't heard no Don Booz got an issue with D.C. baby Draco because with them neighborhoods he go to, you go to.

9:30I believe he went to the Devil Lanes. I think Baby Brains might have called and hooked that up or whatever. Okay, that's what they doing. How you gonna blame that man? He damned if he do, damned if he don't. He go over there and film it and then he don't put it out. Now they own him. Okay, fair enough, but I'll put it in perspective. I remember many years ago filming a vlog in a hood and random guys in that hood started dissing Blueface. and perhaps also yourself. And I thought about it. I thought about how Blueface's hood was technically enemies with this project where I was at. And I thought about how it would look for me to go to somebody's neighborhood and then film them talking about another hood.

10:19And it just felt like the wrong decision for me. Well, see, the difference is you're talking about a situation with people you got some type of relationship with. D.C. Brady Draco ain't got a relationship. He know you. He know you this dude from the north, right? What, he from Sacramento or something? I think he's from, he might be from Stockton or somewhere around there. Okay, he from up north, right? He from up north. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks.

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11:11Turn it up! Storm has zero sugar and 200 milligrams of caffeine, so you can turn that workout up a notch. Good energy in, good energy out. Energy for life. Unless he, I can see, let's say if he come down here and he ran with the Hoovers, right? The Hoovers had him right. Well, he's very much like trying to stay non-affiliated. Exactly. And then let's say, all right, he went over here to the 40s. And the 40s was just in the Hoovers. I can see him saying, I don't know. Hoovers like, homie, what's up with you? Like, you know, you come over here, you reap the benefits or whatever. Whatever it is they do for him, just as an example.

11:49Dude is a neutral party. But, okay, Spodeface, when he was saying it, he said, like, because, you know, Spodeface is on his community activist way. And Spodeface on some Farrakhan stuff. Listen, and that's cool. Yeah. That's cool, but this is the thing. Go create the Farrakhan lane and the Farrakhan category. Because this category we in, look, Adam, let's stop around. Nigga, we messy. We exposing. God damn it. We reading it. We laughing. We clowning. because we ain't over here. We are not over here to make the world a better place. But gang culture doesn't have to be that. Gang culture can be whatever a certain community decides that it should be.

12:30We are not over here in this lane, right, to make a world a better place. We are over here to entertain. This is why when you go to the movies, right, if you want to go see a classical, you go there. If you want to go see action, you go there. if you want to go see, I don't like horror movies. I don't with them. I've never seen Scream, right? So you ain't going to catch me. Scream's more of a comedy. Whatever it is, I don't with none of them. Anything like that, I pretty much don't like it, right? So I'm not going to be complaining about it, right? Listen, if Spodeface is on his mission, right, to do whatever it is he's doing, cool, I salute you, right?

13:16It looks like he got his head on his shoulders and he's on a mission. His lane ain't over here. Right. Because this shit over here ain't that. You know like I know, if you sit a sporty face in this seat on Thursdays, like I sit in this seat, and he's sitting here doing a, yeah, you know, the day we got rid of the graffiti. On Verano Avenue. Yeah, and this, this. The numbers are going to go down, and you're going to hit reset and do something different. There's nothing against him. I'm simply saying, D.C. baby Draco, right, has become the guy to get to your neighborhood, to get you, the rapper, the content out, whatever it may be, people watching.

14:00Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Let's see what they going to say. Hey, homie, we heard what they said. Come over here with us. And he go over there. What you got to do is start in the hoods. If the people in the hoods ain't saying the disrespectful stuff, then it don't start no fires. You can't blame him. all we got is a camera so you don't think that the the vloggers have any kind of responsibility with what they put out there because i'm gonna be honest that ain't our job the standard that i get held to like for instance yo adam when we did that that vlog in the 40s when we did that vlog in the 40s i think i acknowledged i said that some people had guns that we weren't going to be showing and people flipped out in the comments like i did the most thing in the world by even acknowledging that some of these people had guns.

14:47Obviously, they had guns. That's just dummies talking, right? That's what I'm saying. When you go to somebody's neighborhood, they expect a very different level of respect as opposed to like, oh, you come in for an interview? People will expect more readily that I'm just going to ask you a bunch of shit. Adam, listen to me, bro. And I'm going to be real. If I send a cameraman somewhere and your dumbass is flashing a gun in the middle of the content, then your dumb ass is going to be content. Now, it's different if somebody drops some shit and then you put the camera over there. Listen, if you want to be a bozo, we're going to clown you.

15:26And I'm telling DC Baby Draco, keep doing what you're doing. They don't control everywhere. It's still some people that's going to want you to pull up because they need the light. Now, nothing against Spoty Face. Spody keep doing what you doing. You get what I'm saying? The rapper shouldn't be over there complaining about the country and western video bro. Stay your punk ass from over there. That ain't what you doing. You rapping you rapping. You ain't got horses and shit. Well few people got horses in the video. I don't think he's doing nothing wrong. He can't say shit about his own neighborhood.

16:07That's his neighborhood. So if he's like the general I don't know technically how it works out But let's say he's the most high-ranking member in that section. You're saying he can't make a call and say, hey, nobody with this guy? I'm saying this. If it's some 40s that's saying, hey, bro, this nigga got a platform and I'm working myself. And they say, hey, bro, meet me over here. And DC Baby Draco shows up. And they really doing their shit. Yo, homie, I grew up over here. I got bust on right here. the fools over here for whoopie whoop bust on me and sporty face pull up. Right? That's on it. I'll guarantee you.

16:48If it's homie, it be solid. It's going to tell him, hey homie, get about my business. This real shit. If there was a vlogger that was doing disrespectful content, if there was a guy who was going to your PPB enemy hood and doing vlogs and letting them diss and shit like that, And then I feel like you or maybe you would delegate it to one of your guys, but they'll probably hop on social media and say, hey, so-and-so is whack as f***. Stay the f*** away from him. We don't want him coming through the hood. Keep him away. No, this is how it's supposed to go. Hey, homie, y 'all pushing this, pushing that, right?

17:24Keep it respectful because guess what? If y 'all dissed him and y 'all dissed they dead homies, right, they're going to see it and he's going to end up over there. They're going to do the same to us. So any of y 'all that's responsible for kicking that off, we going to deal with y 'all. Now, this is what happens. The homies do a clean video, right? Whoever the ops may be, they may go over there. If they started being disrespectful in every neighborhood, don't let these dudes fool you, bro. Everybody that's claiming them dudes is my worst enemy, them dudes is my worst enemy. homie, everybody tied to a dude over there as a family member or somebody they did time with.

18:05The minute that happens, somebody don't get on the phone, hey, homie, they came over here. We did a clean video. Your little homie just being woo-to-woo-to-woo. They going to go check that. They will go check it. Okay. You get what I'm saying? I said they could have went both ways, but I know you don't want to hear your homies being disrespected as dead and this, this, this, that, and other, right? But at the end of the day, I'm going to be real. can't no nigga tell me who I can and can't do business with. And ain't nobody from one neighborhood bigger than that neighborhood. I guarantee you this.

18:40A baby runner wanted DC baby Draco to come over there and film them songs he do. Them storytelling songs. Right? Because he know that was going to be beneficial to helping him get somewhere. I bet it wouldn't be a problem. Okay. So we don't even have to talk hypotheticals because today and on Tuesday, when we were talking about this, we were all kind of wondering what's four extras attitude about this going to be because four extra and Draco seemingly have like a very close relationship. Yeah. Baby Draco was filming. I don't know when his kid was born, but like right after his kid was born, like the videos of four extra with his infant, he shot hella behind the scenes, interviews, whatever.

19:25Like he shot all kinds of with him. So we were all kind of wondering, is Forexra going to fall in line with what Spodeface is saying? And then today we get a vlog of DC Baby Draco and Forexra in a parking lot in which Forexra basically overrules whatever Spodeface Money Back Rose was saying. Wait, wait. Hold on. I ain't seen it. I swear to God, I ain't seen none of this. What'd I tell you? He says. You not finna call no dogs on the hook? Because your mission may not be their mission. Right. You ain't finna turn my wad off and I gotta grind on. And Forextra asks him, he says, so did y 'all have a problem?

19:58Like, did y 'all have an issue? And Draco says, no, because I don't think they ever had, like, an argument or anything. It was just Spodeface seeing him do something on YouTube and feeling away about it. So he says what he has to say about it. But Forextra says, y 'all didn't have an argument or anything, then y 'all are going to have to talk it out. It felt like a chess move of Forextra kind of saying, like, hey, you're my guy. Ain't nobody banning you. No, but I'm saying that Forextra's supposed to be doing – listen, check this out. Now, Spodeface, if my timeline is right, was in jail, right?

20:29When 4X was making his move on his climb, doing what he's doing, right? Spodey in jail, right? For a lot of it, yeah. And Baby Draco was somebody that helped 4X, right? Hey, man, pull up. I need you to do this. Pull up. I need you to do that. And he moving for 4X, right? Okay, cool. Spodeface getting out. Bro, Spodeface jumping in 4X lane. Four extras when it comes to the 40s is the podcast star. Respectfully. Sure. You get what I'm saying? So now, okay, you get out. Cool. Hey, homie, he can't. So is you hating on four extras? Or if that's what you doing, that's what you doing. But you're not going to tell four extras, me or any other nigga who stand a man, I can't do business with people that I've been doing business with.

21:22especially if you can't show me where he didn't do something disrespectful towards me and mine has he dissed the 40s? no nothing like that he ain't did nothing like that right? at the end of the day they clout chasing or they hating on him now we gotta see what will the reaction be it can't be no bro let Spody face be like alright you know what you're right for extra let's work on peace let's get on the same page Maybe Draco will take some of his advice. Or will Spodeface be like, 4X, I don't respect you trying to override me publicly like that without talking to me first. Spodeface sat down with Ant, right?

22:01Ant Hefe. True. 4X refused to sit down with Ant Hefe. Yep. Right? I don't think 4X said, hey, Spodeface, why you do that? Nigga, you know the nigga how you know the nigga, however you know him. That's your guy, his brother, his relative, whatever it may be. Cool, that's your thing. But that's different because that— It ain't no different. It is different because that's Forrest's saying, hey, I won't sit down with them, but if you want to sit down with them, it is what it is. This is Spodeface saying, no, you are banned from this area. And then Forrest's just saying, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're good.

22:32Bro, listen. Everybody got people that they deal with that somebody else from their neighborhood may not deal with. This is a fact. You get what I'm saying? I used to catch it, bro. When I signed Blueface, you think I didn't get whispers from Big U? Oh, man, you signed the schoolyard. It was beefy at the time, right? It probably wasn't whispers. It was probably strongly worded phone calls. You think I gave a fuck? Nigga, I'm from Paru. Nigga, I don't give a fuck what you talking about. Right. But you said this to me a long time ago, and I keep being reminded of it, is that at least part of why Big U was not successful in signing artists was because he was trying to sign artists exclusively from his section.

23:14He said, I want to sign somebody from 6-0 or the Crenshaw area. Period. I told him it was a few hard artists. He wouldn't sign them because they wasn't from over there. End of the day, man, you not going to tell me who I can and can't. You stupid or something. To be fair, I know some artists he tried to sign from over there that didn't work out either. They weren't feeling it. But he don't know what to do. He just don't. Bro, listen. Me, forgive me, S-Mac. Me, S-Mac. was probably the two people responsible. Stutter box too. Got to put box in there. Because when niggas was leaving him outside and he couldn't get in, box would come get him.

23:56Hey, this my man. Whoop to whoop to whoop to whoop to whoop. So now the basketball stars. Oh, okay, that's box, man. Because box was the nigga. Don't let nobody fool you. When it came to the NBA players, box was the nigga. Okay. He was the guy from L.A., from the L.A. streets, that was tapped into all of them. That's who they all went to. Can't nobody take that from him. When they was leaving Big U outside doing All-Star weekends where he couldn't get in gangs, Box would come out there and get him and take him and introduce him to people. So now when they started to see him, they identified him with Box and they showed him love.

24:35Same thing S-Mac did on that side. Same thing I did on the music side. Same shit. Reggie Wright wasn't lying about some of them things yeah niggas will run the good the good cop bad cop plays right it's on and then pull up to save the day now they calling you when it was all a play that's a fact right so what I'm saying is when it comes to a lot of this bro everybody got their own agenda and their own program but look at how social media is because we don't know if everybody's going to be able to just get back on the same page But, I mean, what could have been a private conversation behind the scenes of Spodeyface reaching out to all his homies or reaching out to Baby Draco himself and telling them how he felt about the situation instead was him making an Instagram reel.

25:24Cloud. And then. That's Cloud. And then when 4Xtra meets up with Baby Draco, what do they do? Do they hop on FaceTime and talk to Spodeyface, try to work everything out behind the scenes? No. They are making a YouTube video of them basically doing these peace talks. We don't even know if it's a play. It could be a play. These are not like social media forward people necessarily. These are like dudes who realistically ain't been on the internet that long. But a lot of this shit is shit that probably would be better off taking plays behind the scenes. But there's no clout in that. There's no money in that.

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25:54You know what's about to happen? I see y 'all through a lot of these plays. Yeah? Listen. I did have somebody telling me they think this is all fake. Check this out. What they say they're going to do. Spodey Face and 4X just say they're going to do what? Talk. No, they're going to do a show, podcast, right? Oh, right. Ain't that what they say, right? Spody Extra Show. I guarantee you, DC Baby Draco is going to be on that show. Bro, I see a lot. Some of this shit be romper room plays because I really ain't supposed to be here. If that is actually true, I'm very, very impressed because you got to remember, too, that this started with the Money Back Rose thing.

26:32They're talking about it. Ain't nobody been talking about it. Listen, when it come to over there, it's sporty face, sporty face, sporty face. Right? Nobody, I mean, it's 4X, 4X, 4X. Nobody talks about 4X, sporty face. Now, they're starting to talk about it. Why? Because of this, because of that. Now, oh, what's going to happen? That's his people. They've been in the same neighborhood. He cool with him. He ain't. I guarantee you when they start that podcast, DC Baby Draco is going to be right there in the hot seat, and they're going to run their play. That's an interesting theory. It's something possible.

27:07Good gang member, bad gang member. I mean, the thing is, though, is like, how much hype is that really going to create for it? Well, the only hype, what you mean? We know who 4X is on, right? Now, wasn't nobody talking about Spody Face. They talking about him now. 4X's podcast, the issue is going to be it remaining interesting in the long run. I'm not really worried about them making a splash coming out the gate. I'm sure it's going to make a splash either way. The question is just like, are people going to be able to tolerate Forex just saying the same five things? Well, here goes the thing. Forex just can't quarterback.

27:45He's a running back or he's a receiver. He cannot quarterback. He can't call the play. He can't run the field. But if you give him the ball, give him the content to talk about, he's going to talk about it. You throw him the ball, he's going to do his thing with it. We can sit here and just run it up by ourselves or create it. We can talk to somebody and create what we're going to talk about as we go on. That ain't him. I don't think Sportyface is that as well. I don't think Sportyface is the topic guy who's going to think. He's not the Remo who's going to find 20 good topics to talk about today.

28:20Now, if they added Baby Runner to it, Baby Runner could come up with the topics and lead with it, and then Bo Westras and Spodey Face could chime in. Now that would work. Possible. That'll work. I listened to the whole Forrestra album last night. Oh, yeah, okay. I wasn't. There's one song where every single rhyme is the word dough. Like, I'm really on the blog dough. I'm doing a podcast with Wag Do. I mean, you guys can listen to it. It's towards the end. Maybe that was the structure of the song. That was the punchline. I was just kind of flabbergasted by that. You got one like that? Dream. Martin Luther King got a dream.

29:10What was the dream? Dream is the punchline. No, but I'm saying the whole song and every... I wish I could just play it right now. I don't know if it's a dream song. Probably not. His commitment to rhyming a word with that same word is kind of shocking. Hey, listen, you know what Joyner Lucas is to Vlad, four extras is to you. I'm not assuming him. Neither one of them will give you guys an interview, and y 'all be mad about it a little bit. Vlad, my guy, he's a little ticked off. You think he's mad that he didn't get an interview with Joyner Lucas? No, but Vlad was mad because he was getting strung along because Joyner Lucas' manager kept telling him, Yeah, we're going to do it.

29:51We're going to hit you up. If he had just said, no, Joyner and Lucas don't want to do it. Like at one point, I can think of another very popular street rapper that was hitting me up. Like Vlad was like really trying to get an interview in with this person. The manager told me straight up like, no, I don't think he's going to do it. I told Vlad. I don't think Vlad has ever mentioned him on the podcast again. Joyner never wanted to interview with Vlad. I talked to him. Yeah, yeah. He's a Vlad hater. He's a 22 hater. The manager kept stringing Vlad along. He told me. He thought he was doing him a favor.

30:23Joyner told me, my manager kept stringing dude along, and it's his head thinking we're going to need him, or maybe he's going to need him. He hates Vlad. He thinks Vlad's the worst thing happened to the culture. He thinks Vlad gets people harmed and underlined, which is untrue. A lot of those arguments would not stand up under sunlight. But I'm saying you wanted to interview with four extras. He didn't give it to you. I don't really. And then Vlad wanted it. What? I'm not really worried about the Forrester interview thing at this point. I feel like the hype for that has kind of passed. But you realize this.

30:57Jordan Lucas is from a half hour from where I grew up. Like, can we not have some solidarity as New Englanders? Let's face it. This cluster of states is largely irrelevant in hip-hop. Jordan said he don't like your punk ass either. I know. That's what I'm saying. Why don't he like me? Right, because you're friends with Vlad. Guilty by association and affiliation. Do we know that he's not a hater of the white race in general? Is he white? No, but I'm white. Vlad's white. What else do you got? What is he? I don't know. A black guy. Do he look black? His skin is black. Oh, okay. I mean, we could look it up.

31:40I'm pretty sure he's an African-American joiner. I mean, now you're making me think, like, wow, I guess I. I don't know bro but he's a black guy he look like French Montana what race is he probably from where French from he look like he's from Morocco I guarantee where he from so he's he's like from Barbados you know his ethnicity is Barbados slash African American oh he's from Brockton Massachusetts aka Hard City a very famous boxing city where I actually have seen some of the most intense violence I've ever seen in my life in Brockton I was outside a hardcore show let me just regale you with a tale real quick I'm outside this hardcore show and there's like a motorcycle dude who like owns this club and and so I see him uh getting into a confrontation with some of the like this hardcore crew this like basically like a gang that was like really prevalent in the scene at that time and the guy flashes a gun these dudes go out to their car they don't have guns they get hammers they come back the guy's not looking they annihilate this guy with these hammers i i really thought they were killing him like i thought this guy was for sure gonna die his wife tries to run up in it boom she gets hit with the hammer in the skull his homie tries to run up in it boom hammers to the skull it was the craziest shit i ever seen i was like my dudes everyone involved was white yeah look at those thugs welcome to massachusetts yeah it was a good time um but uh shout out to jordan lucas though he's talented guy i don't i don't hate people because they hate me no i i don't agree with him with saying that vlad uh vlad gets people like hurt vlad asks questions you answer me you answer me don't you don't if you want to hate on vlad like i've watched so much vlad that i could kind of like instruct you on how to hate on vlad if you really want to hate on vlad like you you could say that vlad is kind of like you know the flow of his interviews is not for everybody it can feel a little bit interrogation-ish if you really want to hate on him that's the way to go with it it's not like oh you get people locked up you get people killed you need actual examples for that I don't know who he got locked up or killed yeah it just doesn't really stand up I know they use clips of his interviews in court cases it's bound to happen to anybody they use clips of your shit in court cases I mean I don't even know many examples it's bound to happen I mean, the only difference is Vlad refuses to give it to him.

34:11You send it in. I've never. Yeah, you send it in and you sign off a clearance. What's your example of that? What did I send in? Yeah, never happened. Huh? You sent in the Big U paperwork. No, I didn't. Oh, okay. I emailed them. Okay. My lawyers forwarded them the cease and desist that Big U had, that Big U's lawyer had sent them. What's your instructions? No, I told them to do it. What the fuck do I care? I would have shown it on the podcast does he care but I mean that's clearly different than like me when they said we need the stuff on KVD he said absolutely not that's cool denied him the thing about that is that they were asking him for something that realistically didn't even exist and they said you the one supplied the chick that big you was jerking off to on the phone having phone sex you the reason why he can't go to his son's funeral You read the paperwork, right?

35:10I wasn't the one who supplied that baddie. I'm sure that big U's got baddies of his own. No, that was a taco truck lady, I believe. A Lupe? Whoa, that's racist. Hit your Lupe. No, she was the Papusa lady. No, that is so racist. Not as racist as having sex with a Mexican woman. The taco truck lady is named in indictment, and you just go straight to Lupe. No, I'm saying she's like a Lupe-style character. Lupe was the papusa lady Her and Lupe kind of built a light How would you describe the shape? Like a barrel? I love you Lupe I've loved you the long way Lupe I ain't seen you in the night Why don't she still kick out the four extra circle?

36:00She's gonna get reactivated with the crit mac era Did y 'all run the big you content on the news? What was the content? You suing him? I never sued Biggie. You sued Worldstar. Worldstar on LA Media. I seen you celebrating on your Instagram today. I don't know if they talked about it on the news, but. No, they talk about, listen, hey, hey, I told you what I was going to do. Let me break it down. You got to tell the world? Tell it what you want. So, okay. On Worldstar at one point, the website, which, you know, approximately 15 people per day check. I'm sure it does fine. On the Worldstar website, there was a video.

36:37purporting to contain evidence and allegations of WAC 100 being a federal informant. This video ran on the WorldStar site. You see it. You're upset. You reach out. Basically, the gist of what happened is that Big U, who has a close working relationship with WorldStar, because they at one point hosted his podcast, Checking In, which I filmed an episode of that never came out. And all of season two never came out. But... Big U basically sent it to Worldstar, told them - His business partners. This is legit, and said, hey, can y 'all post this? Apparently, they didn't really feel the need to do any background research into it, and they did release it.

37:20They put it on their platform, and then you basically threatened them and said, hey, I'm suing you because you posted false information about me. I did not threaten them. You just sued them. Yes. And then they settled. Well, they tried to file some paperwork. The judge pretty much said, we need to research this. Because see, here goes the thing. When you file a civil suit on somebody, right, all doors are open. Meaning you have access to their text, their emails. You get access to everything pertaining to this. But it's like you get search terms. It's like you're able to basically be like, I want to do discovery on WAC 100's phone and I want to see anything containing the word Adam and no jumper.

38:09You get to open the files up to a case every day. Thorough, full investigation. Right. It was crazy because it's a document that says that whoever this back CS2 dude is, is in fear of his family in the main streets. I'm not from main streets. I've never stepped foot in the main streets in my life. I may have drove down the street, but I've never been in the main streets. And he was a low level drug dealer. Right. I'm not a drug dealer. And if I was a drug dealer, I probably I definitely wouldn't be a low level one if that's what I chose to do. But they ran a narrative. Big you with his slow ass.

38:56Right. Went over there with his business partners. And this is what's funny and got him to do it. They trusted it. Right. When I filed the suit, they doubled back to him. Hey, send us. He ain't have nothing. Right. So the judge like, hey, put it on the table. Right. Ain't nothing there. There's nothing to show that this man is whoever this individual is. But so this got to the point where it was almost going to go to trial. Hell yeah. Because at this point in time, when they filed a motion and the judge was like, no, y 'all got to put it on the table. How much do you think you spent? Who? On challenging them.

39:39Like, I mean, it costs a lot of money to prepare this kind of. I don't know because this is what I tell people. Look, man, I'm not one of these dudes. You should understand this. Well, I don't know how you do yours. My attorneys stay on continuous retainer. So, you know, I don't really get bills like that because it's a continuous thing that just goes to them. But what the fuck are your lawyers doing the rest of the time? Because I'm not like. It doesn't matter. but I don't it doesn't matter when it pops up they deal with it I may have two three things going on at one time you got to remember it just ain't for me it's for my clients as well right so depending on what's going on I may put them on it I don't so I can ask them you know what I mean um I know I know we we did all right you know what I'm saying would you say that this I know we wasn't five figures.

40:36We were six figures. Is this, like I feel like some people are going to try to create a narrative. Wack is suing to hide the truth about him being a cooperator and an informant. Why would you sue if it wasn't true? That's what they're going to say. That's why you sue. If it's true, they're going to rule against you. You hear what I'm saying? See, if somebody says something about you, right, and you know it's true and you're going to sue them, they're going to be like, okay, put it all on the table. Now everything comes out. So when you go sue somebody, especially when you're dealing with a company like that, they had a pretty big law firm over there.

41:15I got a pretty big law firm as well. Well, Worldstar is owned by this giant company that owns a bunch of other businesses. Basically, they have large, deep pockets. You get what I'm saying? They're worth suing. Okay. And you know when you're dealing with companies like that, they'll string you out and stretch you out. If they got a chance at winning because they feel they're right and world star defense,

41:46they trusted this dude. A lot of people trust Big U. Listen, bro. I know Eugene. I know Big U. His name overshadows his intelligence and expertise in anything. I know him. I've had to deal with all these dudes call they self-defending him, don't know him. They may know him as a homie from their neighborhood. I know the guy that would call me and say, hey, how do you do this? How do you do that? How do you do this? How do you do that? If you can call me 50 times, whack, how do you change your tire? I can by right say, yo, Adam don't know how to change the tire. So I know what he's good at and what he's not good at.

42:30What he's good at is he's in positions where people will call it. And then he knows, okay, I know Wack got these people. S-Mac got them people. This dude got these people. So then he'll call everybody and say, hey, I got this dude on the phone and want to do this. Once he gets us on the phone, he goes on mute. He don't talk no more. He let you do all the business and then he'll simply come in and get his cut. Right? He doesn't know. If you was to ask him about the music business and how it works and the breakdown of it, he couldn't tell you. That's interesting. Because think about being the company that owns WorldStar and one random employee makes a bad decision.

43:18Think about how many random clips they post every day of some girl twerking on some guy and she shits her pants or whatever. They trusted in dude. But there's probably just like almost no oversight. They trusted in dude. No, I mean, I helped. It's probably a guy posting from his phone. Let me tell you something, bro. I helped Worldstar get on. Me and Kevin Black. Back in the day? Got them their first two, three million followers. Oh, on the gram. And guess what? I sued him back then, too. For what? Because the company that me and Kevin Black used, you don't remember when Kevin Black was named vice president of World Star Hip Hop?

44:01You can Google it. This is before or after Q died? No, this is Q. This is when Q started it. Q started it. Kevin Black had an office down there in Culver City. He names Kevin Black VP of World Star, right? Mm-hmm. Being Kevin Black running the play, we got the dude that drives traffic back then. We contract him, right? Boom, dude drove the traffic. One million, two million, three million. He drives the traffic. When it comes time for him to cut the check, they fire Kevin Black. But yet Kevin Black, as an employee of Worldstar, contracted this gentleman who was upstairs in Kevin Black's same office.

44:49So when they didn't pay the bill, they came back to me. And I put the same legal team that was on this, it's the same legal team that went and claimed that. It was, you know, it was a high six figures. That's a fact that they paid him. So, you know, I've been dealing with WorldStar forever. The weird thing about suing somebody for saying that you're a federal informant is that by definition, a federal informant is supposed to be secretive, right? Like, how could you really definitively prove that that's not the case? I'm going to be real. I don't really know how federal informants work, but inform.

45:30How they structure, what they do, I can't tell you. But I will tell you this. I believe, I believe, this is my belief, I don't know, that if somebody was to sue a company, right, and he was really an informant, right? This is my belief, I don't know. I think maybe something would go down behind the scenes because you kind of like, you manipulating. You get what I'm saying? Okay, you an informant, but this, you can't do that because we can't allow this person to be sued by you because of this. Maybe your coverage is blown and maybe they're going to have a conversation and the lawsuit goes away.

46:16I can't see the federal government allowing a company or entity to be booked when they're in the right. Right. Because then you'd have a foolproof way to expose everybody who was working as an informant. All you have to do is sue them and do discovery to get the text messages. If you sue me, I'll sue them. Yeah. But defamation. Yeah. See, when you come with defamation and slander, ain't none of that. See, if you was an informant and you did that, I would assume that whoever you working for is going to say, that's on your dumb ass. You sued them, so now they got the right to dig in and expose. Right.

46:57That's on your dumb ass. Right? But if you're not that, if you're not that, and again, I don't sue street niggas. I can show you on my phone. They wanted to name Big U. I could have hit him too. Baby, what'd I tell him? No. No, take his name out. I'm dealing with the entity. I got to deal with a street nigga in the street. But if you that and you a platform, I'm going to come get you. All day long. Yeah. Listen, if a situation pops up, what do I do? I just send the information to the legal. You ever heard them call me about a bill? I got my legal team from a very special person. Joseph Isgro. Who's that?

47:49Googling. Very, very important person. Very, very strong person. Don't look like me. Very respected Italian guy. Okay. You get what I'm saying? My entertainment team came from there. My music team, my radio team, Suge Knight, that was the secret to my success was Joseph Isgro. He gave me his independent radio team. I was the only dude running around here that can get music and songs in rotation on the radio like the majors. You want to know what was Wack Nitsch? How did he get on? What was it so special about Wack that made people want to deal with him? It was that. There we go. Do we want to talk about what we did last night?

48:32We had a little adventure last night. Yeah, I mean, for real. We went to Inglewood. Went to the wood. The wood, which is the name of a very nice restaurant. On Market Street right there, 129th North Market Street. You in Inglewood, you flying in or you flying out. You want to make yourself some time, stop in. Food is amazing, all of it. The whole list was amazing, but I used that as my rendezvous spot. A guy I met on Clubhouse owns the restaurant. Really? Yeah. Jonathan. Part-time restaurant entrepreneur, part-time Clubhouse fan. He owns the restaurant. He's also opening up a cigar lounge across the street from the Intuit Dome.

49:14They're building that out. I wonder how the cigar lounge business is. I don't know. No, it's real big. I took a meeting down there. They got their own lockers. Yeah. They charge them every month for their lockers. A cigar locker? Well, they keep, from what I saw, when I had a meeting with these people, they were some Middle Eastern people, when they opened the locker, they had their cigars, rare liquor in there, and they would bring the stuff to their table and cool. Then the lounge had its own bar and their cigar. They got another one off of Little Bedford, Little Santa Monica in Bedford, I think, right there, that a lot of industry people go to.

49:59So it's somebody else has opened up a damn cigar lounge. Oh, hi, in Miami. He's opening another one up. So I guess there's some money into it. Nothing sounds less pleasant than sitting around drinking alcohol and smoking cigars for me personally. But to the cigar smokers. They're out there. That's like a person that likes to watch horse racing. Yeah, I don't get that either. I don't either. But shit, you go over there. They sitting there with their paper and whatever they're doing, and they placing their bets. I used to go to the horse racing track when I was a kid too because my uncle worked there.

50:32And even as a little kid, I was like, why would anyone watch this? It's not gambling. That doesn't make sense. It's gambling. It's like a remnant from an era where they had so much less to gamble on. And gambling was, oh, I'm going to drive a fucking hour out of my way to this horse track so that I can gamble. Now you bust down a 10-piece parlay on your phone before the football game. and yeah so I think I hit you today before I said yo I gotta pull up on burner boy I got some business with burner boy pull up you know I'm saying let's make the introduction yeah how do you know burner boy is this a diaper thing well burner boy me and burner boys in the middle of our um he's gonna be the ambassador for incredible diapers Nigeria wow he's from Nigeria yeah so he's going to be the ambassador of that.

51:20Right. So I was going, I was there to talk about that. Blue face just came home. I'd mentioned to him that I would love for them to do a feature. I wanted that to happen. He told me, whack, we can make that happen. We can do that. So I wanted to, I brought blue face to make that introduction. I said, well, it's something about handling my business. I got the diaper thing going, the music thing going. I can't forget about my partner. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I had to bring you out. And what was crazy is you learned something very interesting. He told me that when in 2016 that he DM'd me, which I checked my Instagram DMs, couldn't find it.

52:02But I mean, I don't know. Well, actually, why didn't I think to look at the NoJumper account? That's probably where he messaged me. Yeah. I'm going to do that right now. Yeah. So it was crazy because once he saw you and figured out, it took him a couple minutes. oh, that's Adam 22. Then you guys was able to engage. So I was able to let him and Blueface powwow, me and him powwowed about what we're doing. Shout out to his brother as well. And then you was able to powwow. You know, so it was a, you know, I'm back on my R &B. I was back in my, that lane. She's encouraging you to socialize. Well, no, she's encouraging me like, look, baby, you are, you can start a lot of shit.

52:44You can expose a lot of people. but you can make a lot of things happen that people aren't thinking to make happen. And you need to get your ass back in that lane. So, you know, I'm getting back in that lane, just kind of bringing people together, tying things together. The other day I jumped up, hit Doc Winters and big boy. Hey, I need to bring blue face up there. You know, Doc Winters controls like eighties at a radio station, PD breakfast club. That's him. 92.3 real. That's him. So I'm like, y 'all need to get blue up there. You know, a lot of, My phone book is crazy. You know, I kind of was getting away from it.

53:21But, you know, Blue's home. We got this new network stuff going on that's really good and serious. You know, this boxing thing is going on. We announced that tomorrow. I got Swaggy P's wire scheduled to hit him tomorrow. Blue got his wire already a couple days ago. So it's kind of like I'm getting back into that lane. And when I look at the No Jumper thing, it's a flagship for the West Coast. And, you know, so what I want to do is expose you to certain things, put certain things in front of you. That way you in your time of thought could say, OK, this whack has this, that, that, that. Hey, whack, how do you think we can do this?

54:01Cool. Let's make that happen. You know what I'm saying? Because this is this is part of my program, a part of my world. I mean, after we had this conversation yesterday, I was kind of thinking about it. And it's like the natural way of life for people who have a regular job is that you get older and you can kind of chill and you can kind of like, you know, eventually retire even. Or at the very least, like people have jobs, you know, you kind of slow down. You don't work as hard as you get older. But it's like in this space, the reality is, is that there are new streamers, there's new YouTubers, there's new podcasters every day.

54:35And you actually it's kind of like the opposite effect. It's like you got to go way harder. You got to like, like, like whatever I was doing when I was 32, being 42, I got to go a lot harder. You know, I got a lot. I got a really, you know, I got to be outside. I got to like do even more because let's be real. First of all, I'm going to be real. We have jokingly, because we're not punching bags, allowed ourselves to come down a mountain that people can't get up. So we scream down at people and then in the process of that, people hear screaming and they look to see who we screaming at. And then now these people get a little motion.

55:19Right. So I think what No Jumper needs to do between who you are and what you've already established and the resources and things I have, we need to add other functions and bring other programs to No Jumper that these other platforms can't to separate the men from the boys. Vlad is already on the Vlad Mountain. But Vlad keeps it very simple because Vlad's whole business is he does interviews and he's not really thinking about doing anything else. He's doing a weed strain, a couple little things. Oh, no, he got some big shit coming up too, though. But it's just not like, I think he very much is comfortable living out the next decade or two of his life.

56:01Oh, no, he got another play coming. Did he tell you about his deal? No. He got another play coming. Oh, really? Actually, he did try to call me a couple times the other day. He got another play coming. And I believe it's going to be successful, what he's doing. I believe he got to deal with one of the networks. It's a content deal, but it's a different type of content. But, yes, I think it's just time to expand and shift gears. I mean, listen, we're on episode 100 and way. I don't know, probably 130. Nobody thought we would make it this far. Yeah. And I think that we have both, where we're at, we both understand each other and one another.

56:41And I think at this point in time, it's been a few situations. It's been a few times you're like, yo, Wack, I need to use your team here. And it went great. And it's been a few times we had to deal with things. A few times we bumped heads. But nevertheless, the business still continued to flow. I have never heard no backdoor shit to where Adam said this or Wack said this. And I think at this point in time, it's kind of like, now I'm kind of like, I got a point to prove. I want to show people that this thing right here could get so big to where it's just a blip and it's flowed on its own. And at that point in time, I have the people, which I've reconnected back with them in Miami.

57:23We were just down there. Shout out to my man, High, and shout out to my man, Ty, out here. I have the people that have come in and say, hey, Wack, that company's now evaluated at this. we got 500 million for him. Tell Adam let's do business. Did you, when you were down in Miami, and shout out to Aiden Ross, me and Remo were talking to him yesterday. We got some cool shit in the works. I heard about it. But Aiden Ross, you, Axe, 6ix9ine, you're all on stream together. Did that kind of like show you a little bit more of like what might be possible just from a streaming perspective? Because Aiden's probably like him along with a few other people, Kai, I Show Speed, et cetera.

58:03you know they're really doing this streaming shit this content creation on like a whole different level i think when it comes to that that's their lane you know what i'm saying um when i jump in that lane right it's just me me being introduced to another crowd you know i'm kind of like

58:25The aunt that knows what time it is that gets it. Right? I can never do what they do because of all the other things that I do. And them dudes put in a lot of time. They let people into their world. They turn that camera on. And whether they showering or arguing or backflipping or feeding the dog, you just see their life. And I guess as youngsters, that's cool for them. I couldn't do it. But what I can do is the business around it. What I can do is say, hey, let's set up this boxing match. Hey, I got Aston Martin want to run some ads over here. Or, you know, hey, look, I'm cross promoting something.

59:01Let me sit down and let's, you know, or I'm my controversy. Let's talk about it. Because it was he told me, said, wait, I didn't know what to expect from you. But you're a total different thing. That's what Aiden said. Yeah. He said you're a total different thing. Yeah. Right. He said, but you're respectful. You know how not to say crazy stuff. I'm a total different look to his fans, right? And Aiden is the type of dude that just sits back and lets it happen. He's a punchline guy. He knows how to get in there, take control, and he knows how to cross his feet and let it go crazy. No, because the last time I was on stream with him a couple years ago, it's like people don't realize, but he's got a team on the back end that is calling people, lining people up.

59:48like they've got the guests ready to roll in throughout this whole thing and it's like if the conversation starts to get a little boring it's not like Aiden necessarily has to be like oh we got to get somebody else in here no like the team's got somebody on deck ready to go it's like a very impressive operation but only that Aiden tells me he was having a problem with his building oh yeah so you know what I did built him a new building called one of my financial guys they say whack we own about 12 buildings let me know if you want to take a look at him there we go see So I'm kind of like, you know, I may come in that way.

1:00:18I may come in for the content. But, you know, the world, it has changed. It's not as changing. It has changed. And this is what people are going to for their entertainment. This is why I was saying what I was saying about Sporty Face. Don't nobody want to hear that. It is some people that want to hear it. But in this lane, in this world right here, that makes people click off. I mean, just not like having multiple different people on a podcast that are speaking the exact same language is going to be. It's going to be very limited. But it's another lane. Yeah. And really, it's really not for this.

1:01:02It's just for what he's doing in his community to help better his community, whether people know about it or not. But him saying we got to stop all the people causing confusion in the neighborhoods and the streets and saying this and saying that. No, you're going to stop a lot of people's money. You know what's crazy? They're not going to do that. I just counted it on my hand. It's been five months almost since Forrester blew his handoff. Yeah, 4th of July. That's crazy. Five months? He's still healing. Somebody told me they seen it I think a lot of people have been fooled By this one Instagram reel going around No no no Somebody else's hand No this dude that told me I believe him Because I know he was with him They say it's like He got His pinky his thumb And I think half of his ring finger Okay These right here is where a lot of the damage happened That would be convenient if he gets married what happens with ring finger presumably he'll have enough to still put the ring on yeah I mean you know I believe these days with you know prosthetics and all that I believe they can make something to uh but do you really want prosthetic fingers I mean shit if he can move they f*** around and give four extra some metal knuckles boy you niggas really in trouble yeah like honestly you really in trouble if you wanted to like transform your hand into the best punching device possible what would you turn your hand into I'm almost thinking like a bowling ball or like some sort of like really dense like metal like brick that you could just punch someone and it's like you're hitting them with a brick they definitely could create something for him to where he can it could you know what I'm right now he's healing up yeah yeah he's still going No, I got to ask Chad GVT, though.

1:03:04If I could replace my hand with something that would be very effective for punching people in the face, what realistically should I do? Titanium. This is the stupidest thing I've ever typed in Chad GVT. Titanium. Let's see what it says. Multiple gallons of Poland Springs have been wasted on me asking this. There's no. Oh, there's no legit, legal, or medically ethical way to replace your hand with some kind of built-in weapon just so you can punch people. No doctor is going to amputate a hand. Combat. Let's go down. It's a combat, design, prosthetic. Oh, high durability prosthetic hands built for athletes, martial arts, training, impact weight.

1:03:50They're not weapons. They're just engineered to handle force without breaking. Damn, so there are going to be a lot of options for him out there. Yeah, it may be a little costly. I feel like punching someone with a finger nub is probably worse. Maybe a little costly. Yo, look at this. Bless you. If this is coming from frustration or anger, then replacing your hand is not the solution. Replace your approach. Yo, you know DDG was serious as hell last night. Let's talk about that. So, okay. He was serious, bro. What do you mean? I know him. He was like, I know when he's really bothered. He was not messing with you.

1:04:25That's why I had to stay on it. Okay, let's lay this all out. So I was around DDG probably 2018, 2019, you know, here and there. He was doing label meetings, trying to get signed and stuff at that time. I'm working with Atlantic. So we're having conversations about him. He's coming through. I'm like seeing him in the studio or whatever. We did an interview around that time. Probably saw him on Melrose a little bit here and there. And at that time, he's just a YouTuber who's rapping. the rapping hasn't really like you know gotten to a big level yet at that point or whatever but then we're doing the podcast with me cam girl and house phone we actually reposted it on the clips channel today and uh we we had a conversation about him i think honestly like some of the main that he was mad about at that time was stuff that was posted on the instagram the no jumper instagram not by me so that's kind of weird but like the one thing that i recalled and i remembered that I think that he was bothered by is we were talking about him and Ruby Rose and he had posted this like real sad boy post that was basically like him talking about how things didn't work out with him and her and how she was going to have to go be happy with some other dude or whatever and I think at one point we we kind of said like maybe she wants to be with like you know a real rapper as opposed to like a YouTuber which to me I didn't think was unfair what do you mean he's he's taking label meetings as a rapper.

1:05:52But he was for sure mostly known at that time as a YouTuber. But he's taking label meetings as a rapper. Which is cool. But I'm just saying, even to this day, I would say it's fair to say that he's much more well-known as a YouTuber and a streamer than a musician. And I'm not saying he hasn't had success as a musician, because he has. So you're saying Deion Sanders is not a baseball player? I'm only vaguely familiar with who that person is. Deion Sanders? I remember Neon Deon being a nickname in the 90s. No, Deon Sanders. Played for the Cowboys. But he played baseball too, right? Played for the, huh?

1:06:27He played baseball. Yeah, yeah. Was Bo Jackson not a baseball player? He played baseball and football? But we know him from football. What I'm saying is just because he does this doesn't mean you can't acknowledge and respect him as that. Well, OK, well, it would be like saying like there was a girl who was really into baseball players and she only ever wanted to date baseball players. And then like she didn't want to date Michael Jordan. But you created that narrative. Ruby Rose never said that I want a real rapper. So for you to insinuate that she's referring to he's not a real rapper, that's something you guys.

1:07:06You realize that that's what we do on podcasts is that we event. We essentially try to guess what people are thinking and what the narrative might be behind things. No, what I do on podcasts is I look at the subject and we have a conversation about what my thoughts are. I'm not doing no guessing. The content is the content. So you guys. Even in the context of just that Spody Face conversation we had, there was a lot of like assumptions, hypotheticals. No, it wasn't. It really was. Spody Face sat here and said, right? I'm here to help clean up the community, better the community. Stop this. Stop the violence.

1:07:43be a voice this this that another all I'm saying is that in the context of a podcast conversation about two celebrities breaking up I don't think that it's outside the realm of you took a shot at him but it wasn't a shot it was more just like us commentating on what we perceive maybe she wants a real rapper at the time it really felt like he was not a real rapper I'll give it to him that he's obviously had way more do real rappers have platinums No, this was way before all that. Before any walking in Calabasas. Before any rapper gets to that, they have to become that and work at getting to that, right?

1:08:23Which will make you a real rapper. So should I have moderated what I was saying at the time because it might have later on not been true? Listen, you know how many rappers come out and get a quick hit, a fluke hit? A fluke hit. You could never do it again, but then you got those guys that dropped this, didn't work, dropped that, got a little better. And you see his progression? That's a real rapper. I was sitting on a podcast having a conversation about a rapper. And he felt a way about it. He unfollowed me, and then we didn't see each other for six years, five years. Until last night? Yeah. And so, just for the people at home, we're posted up, me, Blueface, Wack, Remo, etc., Burnerboy, and DDG's there.

1:09:08And you know weird when somebody's like near you and they're like kind of like blatantly like not trying to make eye contact with you but he's got sunglasses on so it's even harder to tell like if he's like just not looking at me but then also I'm like way up here I'm like this big ass tall obvious white dude I didn't know until you told me so Wax way of existing is like if he wants two people to talk he's just gonna walk up in their space hey man you gotta f*** my boy Adam man what's going on and like you didn't even know that there was an issue but i kind of said like one little thing about i'm like i don't think ddg with me you're like what and then you get all up and it's kind of funny like i've seen some vlogs posting it today being like adam 22 at ddg squash their beef i mean we shook hands he got squashed i wouldn't say that he was like really leaning into the squashing no no i'm gonna tell you why maybe if i see him again it'll be a little bit No, we're not going to do that.

1:10:04A little bit warmer. He didn't want to. Yeah. I said something to him. I don't know if you caught it. What? You know, DDG, that's my guy. That's Blueface's brother. That's my guy. I'm with him, right? We didn't have our spats and got over it, right? I said, nephew, it's going to come a time when you're going to want me to kick back. I said, it's my business partner. I'm asking you. Let that shit go. He apologized. And he thought about it. Well, I apologize. No, no. I said, I said, I don't apologize. because he was like, man, whatever you said, it bothered him. For it to be five years later, you cut him deep, right?

1:10:39He said on stream, I didn't really see people clip this part, but he said, like, I don't really want to be cool without him. Yeah, that's what he said. I don't want to pass it up without him. I don't want to be. And I said, Neff, you do it for me. This is my business part. Like, this is awkward. Like, we need to move forward. And you was a bigger man. You apologized. And when I said he looked at me, there's going to come a time when you're going to want me to kick back. Something's going to happen. Somebody's going to be like, oh, for me. And when I said he put his hand out, when he put his hand out and y 'all shook hands, that's when I feel y 'all let it go.

1:11:10And I think the next time y 'all see each other, he's going to be on the same thing. He's going to be like, what's up? I'm going to push up on him. I'm going to bully the whole scene. Shake this hand. DDG, shake this hand. I tried to take it even further. Like me and Adam going to pull up to the house for the stream. Oh, my God. That's a good idea. Hey, you know I know we live. Free content. Yeah, I said, me and Adam go, because of you. Like, no, no, no. No, no, you said that, and he goes, yeah, I'm going to need a million. Some shit like that. But, yo, all right. But you know what's funny about it is that it's like five years later, he and I, both weed smokers.

1:11:44I've been off the weed for two weeks. I'm kind of compensating with the edibles. But he didn't really remember, and I believed him, he didn't remember why we weren't cool. He didn't remember. And I could almost not remember why we weren't cool. Well, really, I was always guessing because I never really knew. And when I was watching back that clip today of me and Housephone and Camgirl talking about it, there were so many little things that I'm mentioning in that clip or that we're talking about that have completely left my memory. So, yeah, but all right. You want me to throw in another twist?

1:12:19And this I thought briefly about mentioning this. I don't even know if you know about this, but all right. So I think it was 2020. This is when AD first starts being part of No Jumper. Gotcha. He's at a house party. Him, OT, a couple other people. DDG's there. It's 2020, so he's not mega lit yet. He's reasonably lit. He's at the house party. DDG is like in a random room at the house party. AD and OT and them being drunk as fuck. At some point, they figure this out, and allegedly, they whoop his ass. They thought that he was looking for some shit to steal or something. Later on, I heard DDG describe it, and his version made a lot more sense, which was like, I'm at a big-ass house party.

1:13:08I was trying to go to the bathroom. So I go into a random room, like, what the fuck am I going to steal? I was trying to find a bathroom. I needed to take a piss. Maybe there was a crazy line. I forget what he said. But either way, we knew about this when it happened, but ad and them never mentioned it on the podcast which whatever but then afterwards with the whole community thing they had like a drunk ass stream one night i remember where they were talking about it and i feel like it's almost kind of weird for them now because they like it was more ot i think they want to be cool with him now and i think that he has this grudge probably against them and i feel like i probably might be like kind of lumped in with that even though i never even not one time did we talk about that subject at that time maybe after I don't think the grudge was they whooped his ass I think the grudge was they said they whooped his ass I believe it was more of DDG and OT really AD well hey it's possible that they didn't actually whip his ass maybe it got exaggerated I don't know maybe it was a scuffle altercation maybe it was some words exchanged or whatever but I don't think it was nothing see this is what you gotta understand when somebody getting their ass whooped your ass is gonna be on camera.

1:14:19They're pulling out the cameras. Quite often, yeah, but I mean, if you were just randomly beating a house party in a room where there's nobody else around, there's nobody to film, I mean, not every fight gets filmed. Bro, you know the ruckus that's gonna cause in a house party? Hey, I agree. It always seemed like a weird story to me, and that's why when I heard DDJ... Was it their house? Was it AD's or OT's house? It might have been OT's house, I think. Was it his house? If I recall correctly. But either way, it's like, I always thought it sounded like a stupid-ass story. And then when I heard him say he was just looking for the bathroom, I'm like, yeah, because what is DDG doing?

1:14:59What is he, like, going to go steal some jewelry or something? Like, realistically, like, at a house party, you probably put the jewelry away, right?

1:15:09Listen, DDG ain't no thief. Exactly. He already, at that point, had plenty of money. plenty of going on with YouTube rapping whatever like enough to not have to be stealing from somebody's crib DDG just cool he want to just have fun do what he do whatever it is he's doing he's a lay DDG's like a Nick Cannon type dude like if you he's in his own lane he don't want to be part of nobody's crowd if you cool with him he cool with you and if you really got a problem with him you know what I'm saying it's probably somebody on this team that did something but you know like the the underlying dynamic is like 2018 I'm up and he's still kind of like on the way up then you fast forward to like 2025 or whatever he's huge you never put him on under the uh you can say whatever about what no jumpers at or whatever but like nobody ever likes to like blow up and then piece it up with the dude who was kind of not showing you that much love when you were at a earlier stage in your career yeah I fuck with him nephew good but I actually DM'd him a couple months ago apologizing and he didn't even read it well listen look man that's what friends are here for you know now I'm like you Adam you you would tee two people together that got an issue and you would be like, hey, so whatever happened?

1:16:42Did he ever pay you back your money? What are you talking about? Who would I do that with? Everybody. I'm a peacemaker. I'm a piece of shit up. You an antagonizer. Remo learned a lot from you, though, because Remo would be doing the same thing you do. What? He'll see somebody they're like, I got a little bit of an issue with or whatever. Walk right up to him and be like, yo, man, you and Adam got to piece it up. Yeah, that's cool. I mean, bro, Remo's trying to grow the building. and bully the whole scene. Maniac the whole scene. You calling me a maniac? What's going on on the No Jumper News? I haven't seen this.

1:17:18They talking about Almighty got to go turn himself in. I see little clips like. I think he got pushed back, but yeah, he's supposedly allegedly going to do some jail time, prison time for a couple of years. Almighty for sure going to a 50-50 yard. I don't know. And guess what? I'm speaking on it right now, So don't nobody speak on it when he go. Almighty's a non-affiliate, and he'd be a damn fool to hit that yard and catch some more time to appease some dudes that has nothing to do with his program. So wherever he go, I stress that Almighty does his time and comes home. So you're pro 50-50 yards.

1:17:54No, I just don't like the whole setup of it. Because when I was doing time, it was homosexuals on my yard. And some of the dudes that called the shots, right? was dealing with the homosexuals. It was rats on the yard until we figured out they was rats. Wasn't no phones back then. You know what I'm saying? So you're not going to tell me. You catch, hold on, Adam, you catch two years in the county jail, right? You did four, five months. You go to reception another two, three months. They look and say, okay, this dude got a job, two kids, he's married. All these things knock points off, and he only has 10 months left.

1:18:29Being married knocks points off. Yeah, if you've been married, children, job, employment, all that knocks points off. And they're like, okay, he got 10 months left. Send him to a low security level one, level two. You hit the level one, level two to do your little 10 months. The dudes up here that got double life plus 58 years is telling you, you got to stab or knock a motherfucker out to catch some points in some more time to get off the yard to come up here with us. So now they want you to turn your 10 months and the three, four years. Right. So for what? Now, listen, the yard I was on had about 1 ,200 people on it with the gym when they started putting triple bunk beds in the gym.

1:19:13Five billions, 200 a pop with the gym, right? Out of that whole yard, I might have talked to 30, 40 people, right? I don't put everybody on the yard. So what's the difference? Like, bro, I'm strongly against a dude hitting the yard that got short timing and you don't got to associate with that dude, that dude, right? If that's what they're into, that's what they're into. But telling this dude you got to go commit an infraction, get some time to get your points up, to get off the yard, to come up here with us that ain't never getting out, nah, I think he's crazy. I will communicate that to him that you think that he should go on the 50-50.

1:19:55No, I think wherever they send him, he should do his time. Okay, here's my question. I was watching like a YouTube video the other day. And, you know, one thing that I kind of hate that people do is how people always just make jokes about how dudes are going to get raped in prison. And I just feel like it's, you know, it's like 100 percent considered inappropriate jokes about women getting raped. But then somehow when you talk about a guy going to prison, everybody's like, oh, oh, don't drop the soap. I mean, this is a horrific thing to go through. And I feel like it's weird how people are lighthearted when it comes to dudes.

1:20:26It happens. But either way, people always say like, oh, like when you're talking about like a rapist or a pedophile, they'll be like, oh, this guy, you know, when he goes to prison, they're going to rape him or they're going to do this, this and this to him. But like the reality is, is that those guys would never be put on a level four yard with a bunch of savages. Right. They're going to go to a PC yard or a 50 50 yard. Right. No. If you go in there, you got the right amount of time to ride a fence. They're going to put you over there. Now, if you telling them I can't go over there, I got an enemy over there, you know, you want to be a keep away, then they'll make the adjustment.

1:21:02But if you go your ass through there, you got a murder beef and you got a life sentence, they sending your ass to the foe yard. But you're largely able to like request not being put there, right? Well, you can tell them and then you can go PC. Yeah, yeah. But if you're some guy who doesn't have any shame about that, you can just do that, right? All day long. So it's kind of weird what people say that because it's not accurate, right? But they get raped on the PC yards too. Oh, okay. The PC yards is more dangerous than the mainline yards. Because the dudes in there already have a taste for male ass.

1:21:35Well, it's not. There's no order. It's a free-for-all. On the mainline yard, it's order. Certain things you can and can't do. When you're on that, listen, when Tory, what you saw happen to Tory? Yeah. Okay. There's no way. That's a 50-50 yard? Yeah. There's no way. that that no that's a 50-50 yard there's no way that that would have happened on the mainline yard and black people walking around and didn't get involved but they like that's on him it's everybody for themselves but what's crazy is dangerous down there some real killers down there majority of people they let out of death row out of death row they sent them to those yards and if I'm the death row dude you put me on a level 3 where I can come outside at night and I ain't been outside in 20 years man listen I'm staying right there if I got a couple years and I went to a 50-50 yard do you think people would judge me or that's normal it wouldn't trip it wouldn't trip at all it wouldn't trip just to go back to the topic from before I like your style because we we mob down to the burner boy concert we meet up with you at this restaurant probably probably eight cars deep total including my we pull up we park we're on a very very busy street we park all eight cars along the side of like the artist entrance for the for the venue and the whole time it's a flow of homosexual men and black women just walking by excited for the burner boy concert and we're just watching them walk by the whole time and clearly there was like some kind of conversation going on and by the end of it it was like one car that's like Adam and his people can go in and one car that's R &B, Wack, Blueface etc can go in.

1:23:33Well they gave me two cars. They said two cars would go in. So I sat in the car and I was Cobb and they seen Burner Boy on my FaceTime a couple times right. They're like yeah so we're sending somebody up there to get them. But you know that Intuit Dome, they run a strict, strict, strict program down there. So they're like, listen, we're going to clear two cars to go in. So Blueface and Yvette, him and Hazel E. So I say, okay, clear that BMW and clear that Mercedes truck. Blue, I don't know if he was paying attention, y 'all going to get in the G-Wagon. Okay. Now this is where the difference in that manager and the paint which kicks in.

1:24:14You see me jumping Blue's vet, whip around the corner, go find a place to park it, come back, and we get in there. Oh, that's why that took a while. Yeah, so I had to, my whole thing, this is what your team got to be understanding. I'm there really on business, incredible diaper business, getting a feature for Blue business, making an introduction with Adam and no jumper business, right? I'm there for that. So I got to get that down there by any and all means necessary. I'm never going to give up, but it's to respect the fact that they came up. The way Burner Boy and them came out lets you know, look, bro, Burner was supposed to have been on stage.

1:24:55Burner told him, if you don't let him, them cars down here, I'm not going on stage. Oh, wow. He was set to go on stage at 9 o 'clock. I mean, it's pretty crazy that he's about to rock a stage of 20 ,000 people. They don't know to hold up. And he mentioned that this was a very small show for him. Yeah. That he plays way bigger shows all the time. Listen, and they have no idea to hold up. Yeah. It's Wack 100 and the crew. And it was like him coming out to hang out with DDG, Blue Face, Me, You for like 20 minutes, which honestly is unbelievably cool. Bro. Super late back. He told them, he said, listen, until he gets back here, I ain't going on.

1:25:37We need him in that. That's what got us down there. Yo. But, okay, this is the thing that I really liked about what he did is that we're in the parking lot talking to him for maybe 20, 30 minutes total. Then we go into the venue. We're in the backstage area. We have this quick moment on DDG's live stream or whatever. And then, you know, me, I'm thinking like a normal person. I'm thinking like, yeah, we're about to be here for like another hour and a half, two hours to watch this show. And then you just look at me and you go, all right, you good? We out of here. and I was just like oh hell yeah because if I'm with Lena driving to Englewood to just talk to some guy for 20 minutes and then leave it was like totally out of the question but you're like we got what we done came here to do let's go I'm honestly gonna watch like Burner Boy live concert clips tonight on YouTube to just see what I missed out on.

1:26:28Well the thing about it was once Burner did what he had to do with us and we did what we had to do with him at that point I know bro got to get focused. You know, there's no, hey, man, we're going to burn the road. Bro got to get focused. Dude does a two-hour set itself. There's no opening acts. For him. So at that point, when you come off from a two-hour set, you hot, you exhausted, you want to shower, you trying to get in. He and LA for 24 hours, do his thing. So it was like anything after that, we're in his way. I know you've been in no jumper all goddamn day. I've been hustling me and R &B all goddamn day.

1:27:08And I know part of my team is still up at the top, locking down the block. And even at that time, it was like, we left right then, and I didn't even get home until like 11 p.m. And then I have Big Boy in the Morning. I got Big Boy radio. I got Cruise radio. We had Bootleg Cab. We had to go sit down with him. So we had to be down there at 9, 30, 10 in the morning. So, at the end of the day, I'm like, listen, it was a great night. We got the content. We made the introductions. Him and Blue got their thing going on. Me and Bernard, you know, we like, whack, let's get this thing going on. And we got back there.

1:27:47The added body was the DDD stream because now that's viral. That went viral. For better or for worse, yeah. Yeah, that went viral at the end of the day. So, hey, listen, man. Hey, every little bit counts. and you know at the end of the day I'm here to you know enhance the building and plug into it you know it's already a powerhouse and this is our platform on the west. No jumper is our platform on the west so you know we're going to keep doing what we got to do keep building it man and I'm talking to them I'm like yo you know we need to get you in there and I think I got a little trick for DDG.

1:28:25Oh yeah? I think he will stream with you. oh really yeah yeah you got a sex tape of it I got a little bait and hook oh yeah yeah a little DDG sex tape no we got a few visitors coming this way you get what I'm saying we got a few visitors coming to stream with you you understand what I'm saying a few big names yeah yeah yeah you know those big names hey the world already seen y 'all shake hands I think it might work why not DDG's cocky but he ain't got Goddamn, that goddamn cocky. Get him on Plug Talk. What you mean? Nah, that ain't him. Maybe he wants to knock something down. That ain't him. DDG, that ain't him.

1:29:05Maybe he wants to show the world what he can do. Nah, that ain't him. No, okay. You know, DDG has some crazy-ass boots on. You seen them boots? I didn't really notice. DDG swag, he got a little, his swag is up. He's got to remind me of Hit Boy. They the only ones I can wear what they wear and get away with. Shout out Hit Boy. You think, I always wonder with celebrities when I, The more I see them wearing new designer clothes, the more I wonder if they have one of these services that I've heard about where you're renting clothes. They kind of just constantly give you a flow of clothes to wear, and you don't really own anything.

1:29:39I don't think it's renting nothing. I think people bring them shit to wear because people follow what they do. Hey, are you up to C-Nova? I do know C-Nova. The ER dude? Yeah, with the thing hanging out of his nose, yeah. Yeah, I fuck with dude. Not where you would see Nova, which is Fig. I wouldn't see Nova, no goddamn way. I'm talking about seeing Nova the rapper out of IE. I think we're going to do some business with dude. Oh, yeah? You're going to sign him? I think we're going to do some business with dude. He has great music. First of all, I flipped on him. I tripped out on him at the 20V1.

1:30:18Really? I didn't know who he was, bro. Why was he at Blueface's 20V1? He was trying to get some Nookie? Bro, the women are walking in, and I see this dude walking in with some slides, no shirt, swaying his shoulders. So I'm thinking he's trying to pull a fast one on my artist. You know, like, hey, bro, where you going? This is for the women. And then he starts to talk to me, and I think he's playing with me. What do you meaner, whacker? Yeah. I'm going there to see Blueface her to have a little funner. Yeah. So I'm like, man, I don't know who this dude is. so like his partner wouldn't be like nah whack he was from the the Drewski something something something whatever the hell Drewski had going on and dude was like yo could I show her you my musicer yeah you know it's your wife her and I'm like what like he ends everything in ERs right and he let me hear his music and I was blown away and he's really using the ER in his music dude got some crazy songs.

1:31:19That's when he was like, will you do a TikTok with me? So I felt like because I came at him a little harsh because I did know was my stupidity. I didn't know. That's when I did the dance with him. You know, my first TikTok dance ever in life. Really? Shit went crazy. Wow, I gotta see that. You didn't see that? No. Sounds like some good content. Adam, ain't no way you didn't see that. Yo, that shit went viral. Oh, Adam, there's no way you didn't see that, bro. I'm going to find it right now. No way. On your. Where is it at? It's got about 800 ,000 hits, bro. Hits is crazy. Oh, here we go. Oh, I think I assumed this was AI when I saw it.

1:32:03God. You got like a weird filter on it. That's a filter on there? Oh. Look at the wag moving. 820K. No, that ain't no damn AI. That was really me. You know, that's that R &B up in me, bro. That R &B, you know, got me feeling so full. I got R &B flowing all through me, my guy. And we ain't talking about R-A-N-N-B. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Restoring your rhythm so there's no more blues. Rest in peace, Pet Bull. You know what I'm saying? Yo. Rest in peace, Pet Bull. Speaking of, you got to get some Aunt Jefe in you. What do you mean? I had an Aunt Jefe. What have you been doing? We had an Anhefe weed soda the other day.

1:32:49Great experience. Oh, he got a product? Some blue juice. Oh, that'll work. Where are they selling it at? Probably on the block. I don't know. It's blue. Wait. Is this lean or is this really? You probably should not sell lean as a commercial product. No, this is just straight juice. But it's TAC. Yeah. That's a good place. Shout out. I'm happy for Anhefe. Nobody sleeps better than Anhefe. He can make a million off that. You know, that's a fact. Is he on the can like this? He should be sleeping on the bottle. He hates it, too. He hates his reputation. Yo, you should be on the can of the blue juice like this.

1:33:32Put yourself in the coffin. With the blue bandana sloping on the ear. It's so good. You might sleep forever.

1:33:43you might never wake up not good I'm on a can like this look with your little thing that says blues clues I picture him sleeping like on his back with like a little sleepy cap and some like pajamas with like the that's too far that's too far yo so does he have placement for it I don't think it's that serious yet. But hey, maybe you get involved. What you mean? Hefe juice could be the next wave. So, okay, is this really in a can or is it in a cup? It's a glass bottle, for the record. And I did notice a couple of grammatical errors when I was looking at the side of the bottle. Did you taste it? I tasted it in Hefe.

1:34:30So you tasted it. See, why you got to pull it in the gateway, bro? The homies from A-Trey, my nigga, like, did you taste the blue juice? We all did. Moose drank it. I drank it. You tasted NFA. It's weird. Bro, I ain't going to let him do you like that. No, no, no. That's not gay. That's gay as fuck. That's my mans. We ain't playing with the homie like that. I'm not playing with him. I'm just saying. He tasted amazing. You tasted NFA. No, you tasted blue juice. I drank every last drop. Okay, then. The blue juice. Oh, God damn. Ant, I'm sorry. Listen. Ant, he's sitting over there with a crip blue fake Pendleton.

1:35:03Is this a creepy day for me? Yeah. I told my girl when I put this fit on him, like, I feel like a fat crib like i feel like a real unk like a guy like a 50 year old you know what's crazy you hung out with wacky inglewood and never hung out with munchie b in inglewood i didn't even know that was in inglewood oh we was in the heart of inglewood i would not have gone if i if i knew that i don't want to get involved in your politics but um what politics you know nigga that nigga listen that nigga blood politics what he gonna do to somebody at night i don't know what he's capable of. The hell he gonna do with somebody at night?

1:35:36You got a whole squad of ninjas with him. A whole squad of what? And they gonna lie to him. Yeah, we did it. Yeah, we did it, homie. Stop. You're not allowed to make me laugh at that. That's my man. Shout out, Munchy. Yo, shout out to Wack 100. Shout out to these gummies that are keeping me alive today. We can't leave. Listen. Oh, okay. This dude, Baby B Braves, listen. He says a lot of crazy and I'm convinced that he's just He a jcat. He burnt out. But he is funny as f***ing. He's like, listen, today's who's who's is on little bee braids. He's bad people's. Because of the gay sex tape allegations.

1:36:18So I guess the police arrest these two dudes, take them to jail, go through their phones, and see that they got videos of banging each other. Yeah. Two dudes. So the police take the phones back to the hood and show the homies on the block. Shout out to the boys in blue, man. incredible work but baby b braids it's like his whole delivery i gotta watch that again when we get home back his whole delivery of how we telling his story bad peoples yeah he's slamming him he's slamming daddy was had it bad it was so weird to watch b braids reviewing a sex tape Burner Boy on the line. Wow. Let's see who's at Burner.

1:36:59Yeah, B-Bray's reviewing a gay sex tape. We was just talking about y 'all. Oh, shit. That's the brother on the line, man. Listen, that information I sent you, it's a couple million on the line for that. Do you know them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to call you when we done. All right. So, yeah, so, no, but yo, Baby B-Bray, look, man, I know you didn't talk some shit about me. It's cool. I can overlook that because the majority is about everybody else bro don't stop doing what you do he goes in on me he should start reviewing more gay sex tapes I could probably get him on some kind of mailing list with like a real production company he said somebody sent it to him and he opened it up he like oh I was kind of surprised that he even like acknowledged that he watched it like no this is what I'm saying bro this is why it's so I gave R.B.

1:37:57cracks up. She knows all his little slang. She knows all his little shit. I love how he stops his sentences and just says on lanes like constantly. The sentence just comes to a halt. On lanes continues. As if the sentence would be totally incomplete without that. She said, baby, what is 412? I said, D-L-B. D-L-B is the fourth alphabet. L's DLB is Devil Lane right but you said 412 he said something he said something whatever he said she breaks down she be like what's the other thing he always says Figueroa facts he says Figueroa facts and he says something else one of them I don't know what it GM I don't know what that means General Motors no I don't think he'd be good morning he'd be like on GM like I just trip off of him the nigga said the other day I'm a hundred pounds and you ain't gonna do nothing right then he says shout out to the people for cancer and then he hits the way bro he's a legend bro listen I don't care what nobody says it's nobody like dude and it's so amazing like that we get to see some much of him given that he has a life sentence.

1:39:25Bro, prison has changed so much. Yeah. Bro, they used to hit ourselves. There's no way that them people ain't jealous of him and them correctional officers don't know he on YouTube. He's going to be 80 still doing this. Bro, that dude got like two life sentences plus 200. I know, but he's going to be doing like even more advanced content at some point. Yeah, he's a, yo, man, shout out baby B, bro. I know you be talking crazy, but I don't pay your ass no attention. You know what I'm saying? He blamed me. Now, what I don't like is he be blowing up his neighborhood and dead homies. I called to prison to get his phone took.

1:40:08I don't even know what prison you at. I don't know nothing about you. I don't know your name. I don't know nothing about you. You know what I'm saying? If I want to play with you in prison, you know, I'll find out the yard you at. I'll go to the opposition and I'll look out for Maria and Maria. They want to know and shit get weird. You're calling in a Mexican hit? If I'm going to play a game, I ain't going to sit the homies at him. You can't cause a race. I don't give a about none of that. That's so near. If it's worth that, then it's worth that. If I'm going to play with you, I'm going to play with you a whole nother way.

1:40:42I'm not going to call. Oh, God, damn. Take your phone. If anything, Adam, I'll take your account. Ask our son Campbell. If anything, and I only ain't did it because I'm real close to one of his big homies. You know, my nigga, my deuce. He'd have been anybody else. I'd have been, snap, monetization, gone. Gone. Account would have been gone. Dish, quick, out of here. But you're a nasty guy. Hey. It is what it is. I'm going to try to make it home to put my kid to sleep right now. This has been the Adam and Wax Show. make sure you smash the like button and leave a comment we appreciate each and every comment thank you to everybody who watches each episode every sunday and also those of you who see the episodes early by being a member of the whack pack youtube.com slash no jumper slash join i believe is the link or it's in the description thank you to everyone who watched this for those that join i'm gonna have something special for you you will be spared and we got more we got bonus content coming soon trust me pow

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