YG Accused of Slaying Drakeo the Ruler. Was Wack Invited to YG vs The Game & More

29 Jul 2026 · 4 h 25 min · 92 chapters

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In short

The episode mixes celebrity/podcast gossip with a serious discussion about the death of Ronnie Doe and whether Krishan Rock may be involved, plus lighter banter about flirting, voice/music jokes, and No Jumper/guest dynamics. They also debate podcast hosting style and “current events” question delivery.

Guests (backgrounds)

  1. Jess West: A No Jumper-adjacent podcaster/host and talent/management figure who says she previously managed Bonnie (Blueface’s “circus” era) and later helped Ronnie Doe. She describes herself as operating on-camera as “talent,” not as a producer/curator.
  2. Rios: A co-host/participant in the conversation (No Jumper circle). He joins the Ronnie/Krishan discussion and also participates in relationship/flirting banter.
  3. Adam (host): The main interviewer/host (No Jumper). He steers topics, moderates, and gets feedback on Jess West’s interviewing style.
  4. Munchie B / Mikey / Lush / Just West (mentioned): Additional voices appear in the transcript mostly as references, but Jess West and Adam are the central “guest” presences. Lush is discussed as a person who flirts/has been accused of touching on the pod.

Key claims (Ronnie Doe / Krishan Rock)

  • Jess West claims she was contacted by the Maryland Police Department as part of an investigation into Ronnie Doe’s murder.
  • She says Ronnie told her Krishan’s family was threatening him and that he believed Krishan’s “real dad” was Sean Malone (a politician) and that Krishan’s mother had a complicated background; Jess says she tried to keep him focused and didn’t believe the conspiracy.
  • Jess claims Ronnie was obsessed with paternity (believing the baby was his) and that he went viral after fights/online attention, including a mall incident where he was told to meet Krishan at Subway and it escalated.
  • She argues that because Ronnie was paranoid and later was gunned down, his warnings should have been taken more seriously; she also says she can’t prove Krishan did it but suggests she could be a suspect “without evidence” based on her access and connections.

Notable examples

  • The “Subway/mall” incident: Ronnie allegedly went to meet Krishan at a mall, it escalated, and probation was called.
  • Jess’s “viral idea” with Ronnie: she says she and Bonnie went live with Ronnie for days to capitalize on the Blueface/Crishan circus moment.
  • Police contact: Jess says Maryland police reached out after Ronnie’s death; she says she provided what she already shared publicly.

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Chapters

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Vocal Range and Singing

0:45 to 2:57

A humorous conversation about personal singing abilities and vocal range changes over time.

“He had a cherubic, frightful voice that just lit the choir up in Nashville.”

Flirting and Relationships

2:57 to 4:28

A light-hearted discussion about flirting dynamics and personal relationships among the hosts.

“Yeah, Jess is choosing up super tough over being honest.”

Managing Personal Lives

4:28 to 6:41

The hosts talk about their dating lives and the complexities involved in managing relationships.

“You don't know when you was getting the most action?”

Social Media and Public Perception

6:41 to 7:40

Discussion on how social media impacts personal narratives and public perception.

“I can see how that, but, like, look, all right, I don't lack self-awareness to the point where I know.”

Investigating Ronnie Doe's Case

11:10 to 14:02

The hosts delve into the serious implications of Ronnie Doe's investigation and its connection to Kershawn.

“So yeah, I don't encourage you guys to do that.”

Viral Encounters: The Start of Ronnie's Journey

14:02 to 15:07

Learn how a viral moment led to a new career path for Ronnie.

“Kershawn had just went to jail and Bonnie start teasing him like, well, Blueface is in jail.”

The Complex Relationship Dynamics

15:07 to 17:16

Explore the tangled love story between Ronnie, Krishan, and Blueface.

“When I start managing - So Blueface stole her as a Sancho.”

Paranoia and Warnings: A Troubling Narrative

17:16 to 20:46

Understand Ronnie's fears and the warning signs he shared with his manager.

“And he was telling me all these conspiracy about her family and all this stuff.”

The Aftermath of Loss and Regret

20:46 to 22:15

Reflect on the consequences of ignoring warning signs in Ronnie's life.

“because I often think about, like, why didn't I listen to him?”

Media Narratives and Public Perception

22:15 to 24:09

Discuss the media's portrayal of Ronnie and the implications of his death.

“Other the other women when he's like, he's like, just don't lie.”
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Familial Connections and Possible Motives

24:09 to 26:56

Investigate the potential connections between Krishan's family and Ronnie's death.

“who his story was, but all I know is he was super paranoid.”

Final Thoughts: Navigating Internet Fame and Danger

26:56 to 28:00

Contemplate the risks associated with internet fame and personal safety.

“ground that you're putting me in but I never believed it that's what I'm trying to tell you I just thought he was like paranoid a little bit.”

Episode Discussion

28:00 to 42:00
“I feel like bodies are cheap in Baltimore.”

Casual Podcasting Dynamics

42:00 to 43:15

Explore the nuances of creating casual and engaging podcast conversations.

“female podcaster and over and over and over we have kind of just been let down and so even if Jess is like maybe needs a little bit of fine tuning I don't know I feel like she got put in potato.”

The Role of a Madam in Media

43:15 to 43:56

Discussion about the female podcaster's role and influence in media as a 'madam'.

“a good format about the way that you go about it, and it's not forced.”

Humor and Gender Conversations

43:56 to 45:38

A humorous take on sexual jokes and gender dynamics within the podcast.

“When did you decide that you wanted to be like the chick with hella chicks?”

AI and Sexuality: Virtual Experiences

45:38 to 47:20

Exploration of AI technology in relationships and its implications on sexuality.

“You fucked that many dudes that you can't even remember which dude.”

AI's Role in Grief and Legacy

47:20 to 52:18

Discussion on the implications of AI recreating deceased personalities for loved ones.

“If nobody will find out and nobody knew any news about it, would you go there?”

AI Regulation and Ethical Concerns

52:18 to 56:00

Examining the ethical implications and regulatory needs for AI technologies.

“And what is, and there's one of the most prominent discussions in the political sphere is what is responsible AI look like and where do we draw the line when it comes to that.”

Examining EDP's Documentary

56:00 to 1:01:58

A deep dive into the controversial documentary about EDP and his criminal admissions.

“So it's like, then basically there's a huge pedo hunter YouTuber named Alex Rosen, who is like a big fat ginger dude who you've probably seen before online or whatever.”

The Psychology of Pedophilia

1:01:58 to 1:05:24

Discussion on the mental illness aspect of pedophilia and societal implications.

“In fact, you're like Jideon, one of the most prominent YouTubers slash like most prominent YouTuber in this.”

Violence in Predator Hunting

1:05:24 to 1:10:01

Exploring the dangers and ethical concerns surrounding predator hunting activism.

“that I'm so excited for people to see it now, is just, I don't know how he gets it on YouTube.”

Gang Culture and Accountability

1:10:01 to 1:13:45

Discussion on the consequences of gang affiliations and expectations after being beaten.

“If you're getting on a pedo, bro, you can't get beat up by a pedo, bro.”

Moose Man vs. Smack: A Clash of Personalities

1:13:46 to 1:16:46

Analysis of Moose Man's reaction to a confrontation and the dynamics with Smack.

“Do you feel like his homies would have reacted differently?”

Relationships within No Jumper

1:16:47 to 1:21:17

Exploration of host relationships and dynamics in the No Jumper podcast.

“Like, just got a smack over the head with it.”

The Evolution of No Jumper's Format

1:21:18 to 1:32:40

Discussion on the structure and future of the No Jumper podcast format.

“You see, he had to get ADN CRL out the way so he could shine.”

YG vs. The Game: A Breakdown of the Battle

1:33:11 to 1:33:38

Dive into an analysis of the recent YG vs. The Game battle and its implications.

“And you said, do you really want to put your clothes on?”

YG vs. The Game: A Breakdown of the Battle

1:33:51 to 1:38:01

Dive into an analysis of the recent YG vs. The Game battle and its implications.

“Apples are red and green and yellow and other colors as well.”

Comparing YG and The Game's Performing Styles

1:38:01 to 1:40:43

Explore the contrasting performance styles and artistry of YG and The Game.

“He'll regale you with all kinds of crazy tales.”

Examining Stage Presence and Crowd Interaction

1:40:44 to 1:43:59

Discuss the effects of stage presence and crowd dynamics in live performances.

“That's why that was so much of a factor.”

YG's Encounter with Law Enforcement

1:44:00 to 1:46:18

YG's recent interactions with law enforcement and their implications.

“I never heard him say nothing negative about you.”

Allegations Surrounding YG and Drakeo Incident

1:46:19 to 1:52:01

Delve into the allegations involving YG and the altercation with Drakeo.

“It was my fault for letting him just go on the podcast and do whatever he wanted.”

Analyzing the Incident: Chain Theft and Allegations

1:52:01 to 1:53:40

Discussion about an incident involving an alleged chain theft and the implications for YG.

“Somebody allegedly tried to take his chain and he ran.”

Legal Perspectives on YG's Involvement

1:53:41 to 1:55:00

Exploration of the legal challenges in proving YG's involvement in the alleged incident.

“is they would need to be able to prove that he was involved in planning the attack.”

The Role of Security Personnel

1:55:01 to 1:56:50

Debate on the responsibilities and failures of security during live events.

“is going on the internet compare and contrast and you sitting at a disposition for live nation and Because, you know, it wasn't secure to people liking.”

Event Security Expectations and Reality

1:56:51 to 1:58:51

Discussion on the expectations of security at events and the reality of artist safety.

Negligence in Security and Event Planning

1:58:52 to 2:00:08

Analysis of the negligence of security and organizers in ensuring safety at events.

“that can fly with a strap like when i had cassidy do rap battles and he would come in his My thing is, if you allow this amount of people in, well, leave some bros at home and bring an extra security.”

Street Mentality vs. Celebrity Security

2:00:09 to 2:02:36

Discussion on the conflict between street mentality and the need for professional security.

“Munchie's not wrong, but we got to take accountability for our mindset and our actions.”

Festival Security Standards and Expectations

2:02:37 to 2:04:59

Exploration of how security standards at festivals can impact artist safety.

“The last thing on the cop's mind should be like him buying lean.”

Logistical Issues in Event Security

2:05:00 to 2:06:00

Consideration of the various logistical challenges that affect security at large events.

“I ain't never thought about that until now.”

Security Concerns at Live Events

2:06:00 to 2:07:08

Explore the evolving security protocols at live music events and the risks involved.

“of people that arrive independently or with a specific artist and all are able to come together and create an unsafe scenario for one of the performers.”

The Influence of Internet Narratives

2:07:08 to 2:09:33

Discuss the impact of internet narratives on artists and their relationships.

“You barely get to socialize or be around anybody backstage of that shit.”

Understanding Street Culture and Violence

2:09:33 to 2:13:34

Examine the complexities of street life and the responsibilities of those involved.

“You know, YG doesn't really beef on the internet.”

Critique of Content Creators

2:13:34 to 2:17:08

Analyze the motives behind content creators covering crime stories for views.

“But when she occur with street people, whether they're gangbanger or not, I'm just talking about street people that live like that.”

The Role of Civilians in Crime Reporting

2:17:08 to 2:20:01

Discuss the implications of civilians engaging in crime investigations and their responsibilities.

“I think he would be over the fucking roof.”

Defining Civilian and Law Enforcement Roles

2:20:01 to 2:24:33

The hosts discuss the definitions and roles of civilians versus law enforcement and journalists in society.

“do you think Flaka would be doing these type of videos if he wasn't out of Cali do you think he would be this amped up not at this magnitude not this blazing and boat or whatever.”

The Dangers of Flacco's Reporting Style

2:24:34 to 2:29:06

The hosts express concerns about Flacco's sensationalist approach and its effects on the community.

“Like I feel like he's doing a little bit more and more.”

Comparing Journalistic Approaches

2:29:07 to 2:34:00

The discussion shifts to contrasting Flacco's style with that of other journalists, including Andrew Callahan and Trap Lord Ross.

“like a lot more high production value, so it gives it a different accent, I just don't like liars am I wrong?”

The Impact of No Jumper's Absence

2:34:00 to 2:35:20

Discussion on how No Jumper's disappearance could reshape content creation.

“Because I think it would motivate a lot of people and cause them to start making their own content more.”

Navigating Controversial Figures

2:35:20 to 2:37:10

Analyzing the rise of controversial figures in media and politics.

“And that's what Trap Lord Ross, I think, is doing.”

Public Reception of Controversial Opinions

2:37:10 to 2:39:20

Exploring how public figures moderate their views to gain acceptance.

“But the fact that Nick Fuentes could be like, fuck it, I'll let that land.”

EDP's Controversial AI Girlfriend

2:39:20 to 2:41:40

Discussion on EDP's AI girlfriend and the implications of such technology.

“Hunter Biden's doing the same thing too.”

Deciphering Predator Behavior

2:41:40 to 2:44:20

Examining the psychology and behavior of online predators and their tactics.

“to it like he was like, you want some candy?”

Double Standards in Sexual Relationships

2:44:20 to 2:48:00

Discussing societal double standards regarding age and consent in relationships.

“and I'm going to just pick a random number.”

Parents and Freedom: A Double Standard

2:48:00 to 2:51:50

Explore the double standards in parenting regarding boys and girls and how it shapes their views on relationships.

“I wish would give me the time of day is getting picked up by a 16, 17 year old and that the teachers don't have any concern for that.”

The Consequences of Neglect and Maturity

2:51:50 to 2:58:16

Discuss the impact of neglect on children's maturity and the alarming dynamics in unhealthy family situations.

“will be 50 in 10 years i am not ready to handle what is to come but but you're going to be truthful are you going to be honest i'm going to have to navigate these things as it goes You don't care every week.”

The Case of David and the 11-Year-Old

2:58:16 to 3:02:00

Unpack the details of the case involving David and the troubling circumstances surrounding the young girl.

“Like that video where she's kind of like going off on her neighbors.”

Discussion on Trap and Anjefe's Situation

3:02:00 to 3:03:42

The hosts discuss the ongoing situation regarding Trap and Anjefe, including past videos and controversies.

“what's that oh my god are you hearing about it who's that with pixel T Really?”

Flacco's Approach to Content

3:03:42 to 3:05:27

The conversation shifts to Flacco's aggressive content strategy and the ethics surrounding it.

“He told us a long time ago that it was content over everything, man.”

Lush's Opinions on Street Codes

3:05:27 to 3:07:08

Lush shares his views on street codes and the significance of being conscious of one's actions.

“I'm just saying I understand it for him.”

Westmount Scheme and Lucky's Drama

3:07:08 to 3:09:14

The hosts analyze the beef between Westmount Scheme and Lucky, discussing the graffiti incident.

“Moose Man, he went on Apollo like, Munchy, too.”

Discussion on Paid Relations and Payments

3:09:14 to 3:11:54

The hosts have a humorous discussion about the dynamics of paying for relationships and past incidents.

“Is Lucky just beefing with everybody with OTR now?”

Discussion on Paid Relations and Payments

3:12:01 to 3:12:25

The hosts have a humorous discussion about the dynamics of paying for relationships and past incidents.

“Because the game's blood's got to be against that, right?”

Wack 100's Role and Controversies

3:12:25 to 3:16:00

The hosts discuss Wack 100's management role, controversies, and his relationship with The Game.

“Man, you would've did better than that nigga.”

Discussion on Attractive Women

3:16:00 to 3:17:36

The hosts discuss the appeal of a specific female influencer and the current trends in dating among women and rappers.

“And I even, oh, bro, I kind of got her to admit to it.”

Juice WRLD's Artistic Talent

3:17:36 to 3:19:50

A conversation about Juice WRLD's talent and influence, emphasizing his freestyling capabilities and the opinions surrounding it.

“because they know that if I'm saying - One person did.”

Doughboy's Relationship Struggles

3:19:50 to 3:22:02

The hosts discuss Doughboy's personal issues, including relationship challenges and his perspective on marriage.

“And I'm like, bro, when you're 46 and you're morbidly obese, you should settle morbidly obese.”

EDP Documentary Insights

3:22:02 to 3:24:48

Insights into the controversial documentary about EDP, discussing his actions and societal implications.

“and it is this random ass fat lady and she won't even fuck him and then he ends up just splitting with her anyway.”

Debating Consequences for Predatory Behavior

3:24:48 to 3:27:56

A deep dive into the consequences of predatory behavior and the moral implications of punishment methods.

“The interesting thing about the whole thing is that he seemingly does not have any actual victims.”

Closing Thoughts and Donations

3:27:56 to 3:30:00

The hosts wrap up the discussion while addressing viewer donations and comments, maintaining a light-hearted tone.

“So there's a difference between like a crime of passion and like something that you plot out.”

Casual Banter and Super Chats

3:30:00 to 3:32:04

Listeners interact with the hosts through Super Chats, leading to humorous exchanges.

“TTMe said, what is the customer service number?”

Discussion on Financial Obligations

3:32:04 to 3:35:04

The hosts discuss financial debts within their circle, highlighting a humorous take on money owed.

“I mean, per my understanding for the parameters of the bet, a Riddick.”

Fashion and Personal Style

3:35:04 to 3:38:08

The hosts share opinions on personal fashion choices and trends, critiquing each other's styles.

“Once we're done, y 'all got to leave your Jess reviews.”

Munchie's Comedy and Rivalry

3:38:08 to 3:42:05

A lively discussion about Munchie's comedic style and his playful rivalry with Spodey.

“Good seeing Munchie back on the platform.”

YG's Lyrics and Hidden Meanings

3:42:05 to 3:44:01

The hosts analyze YG's lyrics, revealing deeper implications and connections to his persona.

“He be putting them kiki fits together, though.”

Fashion Trends and Personal Styles

3:44:01 to 3:45:29

Discussing the evolution of personal style and fashion trends in the music scene.

“JR62 Dew said, how did Lush not catch YG's DL story?”

YG's Recent Controversies

3:45:30 to 3:47:07

Analyzing YG's lyrics and the controversies surrounding his personal life.

“Paper Chaser said Rios, why does Fig Muni World act like Adam and No Jumper unalived a family member or something?”

Community and Collaboration in Media

3:47:08 to 3:49:24

Exploring the need for unity among West Coast media personalities and creators.

“Hey, because, man, they be talking about West Coast podcast, bro.”

Performance Dynamics: YG vs. Game

3:49:25 to 3:51:28

A debate on the performance styles and crowd reactions of YG and The Game.

“Sparta6 said, stop saying Game was a better performer.”

The Role of Law Enforcement and Snitching

3:51:29 to 3:53:56

Discussing the implications of snitching and how law enforcement interacts with suspects.

“Again, I still mainly hold the venue and the promoters culpable.”

Journalism vs. Commentary in Hip-Hop

3:53:57 to 3:57:49

Examining the lines between journalism and commentary in the hip-hop space.

“He's at least on the spectrum of journalism.”

Behind the Scenes of Vlogging

3:57:50 to 3:58:00

Insights into the experiences of filming controversial content in the hip-hop community.

“and i was really cooking crack no i swear to god they were not and and i was like i was like yo So, like, honestly, like, you don't even really got to try that hard because, like, we're going to blur it out anyway.”

Blurred Lines in Vlogging

3:58:00 to 3:59:00

Discussion about the ethics and perceptions in vlogging content.

“So, like, if your intent is to, like, trick people, it's probably going to work because we're going to blur it out.”

Debating Journalism Standards

3:59:00 to 4:01:40

A back-and-forth on journalism ethics and accountability in media.

“Jess West told me she was 25 beforehand.”

Food Challenges and Eating Experiences

4:01:40 to 4:03:56

Conversation revolves around food challenges, personal experiences with burgers.

“Not to mention the proclivities What's the name of the sandwich place By MacArthur Park?”

Eating Disorders and Body Image

4:03:56 to 4:08:42

Discussion on eating disorders, body image issues, and societal pressures.

“There is part of me that feels like maybe I could do it.”

Humor and Relationships

4:08:42 to 4:11:40

Humorous anecdotes about relationships and past experiences with ex-girlfriends.

“And so after I get done with her, she starts fucking with this older black dude.”

Intro to OnlyFans Collaboration

4:12:00 to 4:12:41

Discussion about creating an OnlyFans video with a girlfriend.

King Lil G's Deportation Rumors

4:12:41 to 4:15:34

Discussion about King Lil G's alleged deportation and its implications.

“YNG Lou said, when did King Lil G get deported?”

Listener Interactions and Comments

4:15:34 to 4:16:24

Reading and reacting to listener comments and questions during the podcast.

Suspect's Girlfriend and Streaming Dynamics

4:16:24 to 4:21:11

Analyzing the interactions surrounding a suspect's girlfriend on stream.

“What did he kill the fucking trans person?”

T.K. Kirkland and Comedic Definitions

4:21:11 to 4:23:34

Debate on the nature of comedy and T.K. Kirkland's perspective on modern comedians.

“Kirkland back on the platform after like eight years because I saw him at the steakhouse.”
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0:03I feel like I could have done that when I was a young kid. Wasn't that like the corn? Yeah, right? Yeah, it's disturbed.

0:15I knew it wasn't corn. Bro, dude from corn was doing that before disturbed. For sure. For sure. But then the song when he goes, You're thinking of down with the sickness. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was thinking of. Down with the sickness. I feel like I noticed myself having less vocal range the older I get. Like, I can't sing anything even remotely high-pitched at all. Like, not that I ever was able to sing in any way. Yeah. I can't hit, like, a high note anymore. He was trying, no, back then. He's speaking high notes. Not really, but, like, if I even, like, try to sing along, it just doesn't work.

0:46Like, my voice doesn't just go there. I need an example. He had a cherubic, frightful voice that just lit the choir up in Nashville. Try to, like, sing along to a Gunna song, and you're just like, and I'm just like just sounding so dumb doing it and you're like trying to like sing along to the dentist the older you get shit starts to break down a little bit your voice just goes I'll be at home doing my big one singing like a movie you be singing in the shower or what I'm an R &B thug in the shower out the shower I'll be doing an entire like Mariah Carey 12 bar I'm trying to jump on Munchie Beast I'm also a singer I sing too It does hit in the shower, the echo.

1:27It does hit. It got you feeling like you got it forever. I don't even have music capabilities in my bathroom. I've never listened to music in the bathroom. I want to hear Les battle somebody. I just feel you too nice. I'm not nice. Respectfully. You're ugly, but I'll take it back. I mean, honestly, I told you, though, bro, if I do something like that, it requires... You got to have real funk? Yeah I do gotta have real funk because if I don't like I go to a dark place automatically. You gotta respond to No Jumper Robber. Yeah you gotta respond. Hey I did my research I've been listening to the music.

2:05Yeah that was kind of mean. I robbed you for your perks and kicked you in your ass You know what I'm saying? Honestly You made a song that was kind of like a how to rob type thing. By the way shout out to Jess West with the big techno vape Hey You know what, Adam? I was going through the disposable ones like every three days. And so I was like, let me kick it old school. Dope boy style. It's more economical, right? It is. And it lasts so much more longer. I'm only on six milligrams one. The one Steven and them is like 20 milligrams. I'm trying to like... You used to smoke cigs? I used to love them.

2:36What was your choice of cigarettes? When people smoke around me and I can smell the smoke, I'm like, oh my God. What brand were you on? Camelites. That was me again. That was him. That's why she liked me. That's why I like you. You've been popping it. He just got back on the six. Yeah, it's aphrodisiac. And I heard you and Jess West were fucking, or what was going on with that? I mean... Tell him the truth. The night is young. What, around a bitter? The night is young. You guys got it in, though, or what? Nah, nah. Jess was feeling him, though. Yeah, Jess is choosing up super tough over being honest.

3:09He's trying to get some content. I love everybody. I'm just here to, like, F up Earth and have a good time. Whatever I want to do, I'm going to do. That's basically her way of saying content. It could be you. it could be you Mikey fine ass Mikey got a girlfriend let's not fuck Mikey but Mikey's cute though but I love Lush and if I want to flirt with Lush I'm going to flirt with Lush y 'all ain't going to tell me nothing what y 'all going to do about it that's crazy though like what is it about Lush that gets you all like riled up yeah you know what it's the rhyme it's the rhyme and pattern you know he just has I think he's a heartbeat of no jumper he always has good energy he's always just a good person i'm real big about energy like it takes me two seconds to figure out who you are i don't have to know you long i could really peep your soul in what you got going on but i think he's a good person very smart i started talking to jessica over like a while ago before she even auditioned because she was managing different artists in in dago so we like struck up a rapport and she was cool i was like oh okay but then she showed up i didn't realize it was the same person when she was there and then like when she was like oh actually i've been talking i was okay word and then like she's been consistently dope at what she does and like yeah she like looking like a like a fine lemon pancake like so i'm like what's happening like that's it and then like you're like possibly getting at her he's like she's perfect for harassment

4:36i think people thought i was gonna be like ew no what the fuck did and like be so mean about it yeah i was like uh-uh call me meet me at the bel-air but if we if we look at like my history on no jumper that's not the case though you feel me like the bitch has been on me just germ though really most of your time in no jumper was just the Jerm era. Yeah, exactly. Fat Lush or Skinny Lush? Exactly. Because Jerm said she loves Fat Lush. These are questions you gotta ask them. You feel me? I'm just me. He's like a potbelly. You don't know when you was getting the most action? Oh, when was I getting right now?

5:15Fat Lush or Lush? Right now. Right now? Right now. Like right now, right now. Right now. I think out of all the eras, this is Hot Lush for sure. Alright, check it out. You don't want Justin to think that she's just a number. I didn't say that. Don't break my heart. No, no. Right now it's payback. It's all payback right now. Damn, I'm the rebound? No, no, no. I'm not even on a rebound because I'm not even hard. First of all, I have a girlfriend. You feel me? I have a boyfriend. Yeah. There we go. Some great little Instagram? No, I have a girlfriend. Bro, he said he loved her already. He said, I love you, baby.

5:44No, he didn't say that yesterday. Bro, why can't you be alone for five minutes to get your fucking perspective on life together? Hey, bro, this is my life. Hey, what did Lil Wayne say? It's my cup. You feel me? You're such an empath, though, that you just can't be single at all without just, like, seeing a woman and just falling for it. Yeah, I like being in love. I do. Yeah, like, I don't think you could get, like, just random pussy because I feel like you would fall for it. No, I get, like, I kind of, like, did my little rebound thing. I'm not going to lie. Dan, his energy just changed. Like a week and a half.

6:18I agree with Adam. He's, like, a lover boy. What was it? He got all soft. He's a lover boy. He's got super soft right now. Yeah, because I am soft. But it's quote-unquote girlfriend. friend no i i she's great i absolutely adore her i absolutely adore her but her and i got an understanding i said i told her i was like you're not the only one but you my favorite you feel me it's like you're not the only one you my favorite she's coming out to see me next week player ass shit to girls like that and it's just so cringe like i mean like luckily i'm saying it to a bitch i'm not saying it to you you feel me so like you ain't gotta worry about it like i was Really, though, you're saying it's us about what you allegedly said to a bitch.

6:56I can see how that, but, like, look, all right, I don't lack self-awareness to the point where I know. Like, I know that all this shit look ridiculous. I know I look ridiculous. No, you don't look ridiculous. My thing is that I don't give a fuck. But, y 'all, to be fair, I got hit up by so many people like, are you okay? People were DMing me. Like, Lush was touching you on the pod. Yeah, they were like, are you okay? Like, is everything okay with you? Are you good? And I'm like. She put her ass on me. I was like, I put my ass on him. Yeah, I'm fine. She walked up and put her ass on me. To a lot of women, if Lush were to feel up on them, that would be the most traumatic thing they'd ever dealt with.

7:30And that's a funny-ass narrative. And laugh at my ass off and all that shit, but nah. Because I don't even do that to a bitch. That's why there's not girls out there saying, oh, you touched me. There's never been this narrative ever. You won't just scoot it up on a bitch when you're failing her and just sort of poke your booty into her a little bit. like oh this is just this just happening by accident no see don't grab it don't grab it like it's like when you're watching like a movie when you netflix and chilling right and you like got a girl laying like by you and you don't know if you're gonna crack yet and then you like kind of like slowly yeah that's what i'm saying yeah yeah and then eventually when her ass on you it's like all right cool and then she don't move it and then it's like all right extra cool then like my hands there all right cool yeah so that's literally and not to like i'm trying to play the homegirl out because it ain't even that deep but that's literally right i indicated it'd be more so them scooting back it was me scooting back it was her scooting back gang like so so if you know but but it's like i also know that like if i'm being fully realistic i know that jess is very flirtatious you feel me she just kind of moved like that and it's not that deep you feel me i wasn't like we talked about it like hey we're like we're gonna go on a little date or whatever we talked about it so like we gonna see what time is it we should stream it hey as matter But then it won't be about love.

8:46Is it ever? I don't know with you. It's a possible love. I'm not into love right now. Right beforehand, you know what she said? She all, I don't even go. I don't give a fuck. Because she don't care. She knows what she did. She's all, hey, that'd be crazy if we just had a drugged out night, me and you, and just went crazy. And the paparazzi caught us coming out of a hotel, and it was all like. That's hot that you specified the drug part. I know. That's hot to have a drug day. Don't threaten me. That piqued your interest. And I was like, all right, for sure. I don't know. Because I really do miss those good old days.

9:19Hey, let's get back to the drug date in one second. But I just got to give a big, big shout out to something that would be a great replacement for a drug date, which would be everything for a 20. I literally can order anything online nowadays, but people still drive to smoke shops. I don't get it. Pretty much anything you want can show up right at your door. So if you're still driving to a smoke shop every time you need something, it's 2026 and there is an easier way. That's why I use everything420.com for all of my essentials. And actually, I got some edibles. Oh, shit. We got them on deck. Oh, we got some good edibles.

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11:09Back to the drug date. So yeah, I don't encourage you guys to do that. That's dangerous. No, I'm just saying like, ultimately I want to make this clear. Jessica is very talented at what she does, bro. She's a dope podcaster. She's a dope personality. she's not in this chair because she'd fuck with me or anything like that bro like she'd been getting it popping matter of fact if anything that probably hold her back and it's not like i think people overemphasize my influence on my position on the logistics and behind the scenes bro i get paid to be talent bro i'm talent here i'm not a curator not an organizer not a producer yes i can operate in those capacities yes i have the ability to do that no i don't do that over here i'm strictly on camera uh yeah so you're not mad with power yet no i don't even because i don't even have the power to get mad with that's the thing it's not even like you ain't going that's a dark corridor if you think that i'm the the key way to or the or you feel me the the key to your success in that regard it's not that type of party the women i'll be functioning with they got they know that so whatever her and i got uh going on or like flirting whatever the it is mind your business yeah type shit it's got nothing to do with Nathan listen I gotta tell you guys something so serious Lush had mentioned that he met me when I was you know managing Bonnie's he had the gang Yobby and Keeks I was also managing I don't know if you guys know Ronnie Doe who was the ex of Krishan Rock that got the guy who got murked yeah I was just hit up Monday by the Maryland Police Department saying what for the investigation in Ronnie Doe see I didn't watch that Flacco video but there's like everybody's saying that basically like kreshawn might be charged with the murder of this guy ronnie everybody saying that listen it is so crazy i cannot believe this is bad well remo did a video remo did a video on it floco did a video on it recently quail the guy who was thought to be involved he came out and said the police were looking to talk to him and then a lot of us bloggers who have been covering the story working with ronnie are now getting contacted by the maryland police so why would it be thought that she might do this like what's the evidence okay so basically from my understanding i started working with ronnie because i was managing bonnie who was a part of the blue face circus you know and wasn't she like a live-in girlfriend she was a living girlfriend she was signed a blue face she ended up stepping away came back in the height of krishan and blue faces fame i start managing her we took off during that we had she had always told me about Ronnie.

13:49She goes, there's some guy in Maryland, that's Kershawn's real boyfriend. And Bonnie said that Kershawn would always sneak off and go see him. They're still very much involved. So one crazy night, we had a viral idea to hit up Ronnie. So we go live with him. This was when Blueface went to jail. Kershawn had just went to jail and Bonnie start teasing him like, well, Blueface is in jail. Kershawn is in jail. Go get your son. Like, go get your son. You've been telling everyone online here and there that that might be your son, go get your son. And so it went extremely viral. We probably did a live with him for two or three days.

14:19Fast forward. He ends up calling me and he's like, Jess, I like how you manage people. You and Bonnie are fearless. You guys have been able to kind of conquer this, the circus and up your career. So I start helping Ronnie. I didn't take a cut. I was, I was just kind of helping him. I understood his story. I knew where he was coming from. He had moved out to California with Krishan before the blue face house. He caught a body, a murder case. It was him, Krishan and a homeless guy. They moved out here and then he went to jail for murder. How's the homeless guy involved? Is he the victim? Why'd he kill a homeless guy?

14:49They stayed at a hostel. They moved out here. They didn't have a place to stay so they stayed in a hostel in downtown LA. The guy was murdered. The homeless guy was murdered. Yes, Ronnie goes to jail. Krishan tries out for the Blueface house and then meets Blueface. He's in jail awaiting murder and fighting the charge and she's just becoming a star with Blueface. He ends up beating the murder case on self-defense. He moves back to Maryland. then Krishan becomes an Uber star. So he always longed for her. It was his high school girlfriend. When I start managing - So Blueface stole her as a Sancho.

15:18I mean, he went to jail. Didn't really steal him. She went on a reality show while her boyfriend's in jail. And then Blueface isn't even supposed to really be fucking the girls in a reality show. But then he takes a liking to her, decides he's going to blow her up. But then meanwhile, this guy's locked up. But then what? He gets out? He gets out. And she doesn't even care? She doesn't even care. Sure, but Bonnie would tell me. But Bonnie would say when they were in the house, Krishan would sneak off and talk to him. Krishan would still go see him. Bonnie and Krishan were like this in the house.

15:50So when I start managing him, I would tell him, like, tell me everything. What do you want out of this? Like, where are we trying to go? He would say, I really want to know if that's my son. Do you know I was there during his birth? Do you know I've been here the whole time? Do you know Krishan sends me Blueface's money? Do you know all this? And I'm like, me, marketing genius. I'm like, oh yeah. I'm about to start managing you because it kind of - Kenny is Sauce Waka and Blue Face is Drake. Yeah, essentially. Yeah, essentially. So I start helping him out. We start going uber viral. I get him on Hater Row.

16:15Blue Devil and him start going back and forth. Like a Wack is on podcast talking about him and his association. He gets on Tasha K. We start going so viral and things start getting so dark and bizarre. He starts getting weird, calling me, telling me that Krishan's family's out to get him. He tells me this long story one night. It was so crazy. He called at four in the morning, like on some like scandal shit. he was like i don't know if you know this but karshawn's real dad is um uh something malone he's a politician his wife is lisa malone she's the biggest black owner of a of a law firm and she's like when karshawn's mom her dad's carl malone no it is the mailman and i was so freaked out and i go ronnie this is too much this is like too much of conspiracy i go just stay focused i go me and bonnie went through all this we had to fight the circus the critics i go just stay focused I'm trying to encourage him.

17:03You know what I mean? Like I got my page taken. I got so much hate from people. And I said, they're going to try to distract you. Like just, I was trying to keep them on the straight and narrow because what comes with the circus and all that drama is so much. You get it? So that was my whole point. But he was like, they're going to kill me. Like her Sean's family starting me. They're going to kill me. And I'm like, there ain't no way there. There's no way you get it. I said, you're just paranoid. And he was telling me all these conspiracy about her family and all this stuff. I till this day, I could cry right now.

17:28I feel so bad for not listening, for not listening. listening i thought you're gonna say for making them do the circus yeah i was gonna say for perpetuating this negativity because i just thought because i had been through it when me and bonnie first started this bonnie was like the side chick you know that we were on your podcast because we were going viral bonnie was like the side chick and it was hard but we kind of got through it you know what i'm saying and i'm just like it comes with a lot i got all three of my pages taken i got docs my family was starting but i was just like ronnie it comes with the internet kreshawn has a strong fan base it's blue face and kreshawn like it's gonna be a lot okay so why Why do people think that she was involved in him getting killed?

18:05Well, because Ronnie kept saying that. He started fighting for paternity. But in the same time, he's going viral. All this stuff is happening. He gets on Tasha K. It goes super viral. And then at the same time, he's kind of dealing with Krishan. That mall incident that happened that made him go viral when he stalked Krishan at the mall. Do you guys remember that? He was like, let me see my baby or something? Yeah. So that day he called me. He goes, hey, Krishan wants to meet up at Subway. Do you think I should go? I said, hell no, Ronnie. I said, it's a setup. Do not go. He ends up going. She goes to the mall.

18:33As soon as he sees her, she goes, come to the mall. They go to the mall. He gets in front of her. He's, what are you doing? Get away from me. Da, da, da, da, da. And I said, I told you. She called the probation on him. It was like a mess. And so I kept saying, are you talking to Krishan? I was so confused. I go, you're in the media saying you don't like her. You want paternity. But in the same time, you're talking to her, Ronnie. That doesn't even make sense. Like, are you guys good or you're not good? I was confused. Was it because, like you said, she was breaking him off chili? Yeah, and it was like his first love.

19:00He was generally in his feelings. Munchy, thank you. He had this idea that he would be the baby father. Her and him would rekindle and it would be like one big love story like when they first moved to LA. Also, she's breaking him off that show. I feel like he really felt that. Everything in a pimp story, bro. Bro, the last thing he seen before he went to jail was her. Literally. I'd be pretty bummed out if I'm in a homeless shelter with my girlfriend. And then she's with Blue Fist. Yeah. I know. So he. I don't think he. After you just. Murdered. After you murdered a bum. Yeah. Exactly. You murdered a bum for her.

19:35Yeah. You murdered a bum. Probably trying to protect her. You killed an unhouse person to protect her. And then she just runs off with the first crib she meets. That's crazy. Let me ask you something. All right. Remember when she broke. Like she stole Blue Face Car with the rims. She was going to Ronnie. What's she going to him? That's all I'm about to say. Exactly. This is like casino. No way. That's crazy. Yes. This is like the movie casino. Ronnie has always been there. He's never not been anyway. So long story short, he would tell me, Kreshawn's family's threatening me. They're going to kill me.

20:01I wouldn't listen to any of it. I just kept saying, keep focus. There's two times I had to buy him flights to Vegas to get him out of the city because he was scared for his life. But at the end of the day, I never thought nothing was really going to happen to him. I could cry. I'm sorry, you guys. I could cry right now because... So he got murdered? It breaks my heart. Have you ever experienced many drugs? Who? Ronnie. No. No, Ronnie was working for the city. No, he was working for the city at his funeral. His boss came out and said they were about to promote him. Krishan's fans have tried to paint this narrative that he was in the streets and he was doing drugs.

20:35He was an honorable young man. I'm happy to have worked with him. And he was on the up and he was going so viral. And for him to tell me, like, all I could say is if ever someone tells you that their life is in danger, like, please listen to them because my heart is heavy because I often think about, like, why didn't I listen to him? I never really thought nothing would happen. I just thought it was like... Yeah, it's fucked. So, so... I just thought it was the internet. None of his paranoia came from any activity in the streets because her sister said that, you know, she didn't fed him at one point and they was close and they stayed together.

21:08They argued and the sister... I can't pronounce the oldest sister's name. Siseki. Her. Yeah. She had a good relationship with him. They've been knowing each other for X amount of years. So when you say family... Well, she went on Jason Lee's set and she said one day he's seeking paternity and the next day, pow, pow, he's dead. That was her statement on Jason Lee. Yeah, but like, is that like a street name being tender over a female doing it for her or a family though? I think that's why the story was so alluring because I don't think none of us could really tell. Was it for clout? Was he doing this for this?

21:35Was he just jealous of Blueface? But when I would ask him, he would just say, I just want to know if that's my son. The son looks, the baby looks goddamn just like him. Did the timeline line up? He had receipts. He showed me all the calls of them talking. He showed me pictures of him in the delivery room when she gave birth online. They're saying that Blueface is claiming this baby, right? Yeah. As of today, but he wasn't two days ago. Man, Blueface kind of changed. Yeah, he keeps going back and forth. I mean, that is one thing I'll say about Blueface is that, like, over the years I've felt like he, like, behaved like a pretty, like, solid dude and shit.

22:12But things started to change a little when I saw he finds out that Jaden Alexis, his baby mama, was fucking his good homie, and then he's back in bed with her that night i was like i would not like i would be heartbroken angry not fucking like i would like i don't know that confused the shit out of me and that's kind of weird to me too that like he seemingly like knew that he was sharing kershawn with ronnie and he wasn't too bent out of shape about it you feel like adam when you interviewed him i wanted you to go in on him like i was hoping you would ask i'm not up to date on the kershawn lore But isn't the whole thing that like he's openly not monogamous.

22:53So wouldn't it be super contrary. And I've seen him in his dealings. I think it was even Hazel. Other the other women when he's like, he's like, just don't lie. Yeah. Like, I'm like, I know you a hoe. I get busy. I do my thing, too. It's all good. Just don't lie. I believe they come to J.D. and hit a little different. You know, they weigh from like kids. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I heard how Wack explained the story to you, and I heard it kind of different with his boy Bravo. Yeah. Because, oh, boy, Bravo, his brother the one who made Tatiana. It's going to be easy. Right. But it wasn't like she was one of his bitches, and he and her wife and one of the blue-faced bitches.

23:32That was already his work. He went behind Bravo and spanked her down. Blue slept with Sadie. So Sadie slept with Blue, and then, like you said, jaden alexis let with bravo right i'm grossed out by the idea of my friends like getting at me by fucking my girl yes it is super jangy warfare like that it is like no that is that's crazy so everything i have talked about on my podcast and on youtube for the last year like i've been pretty transparent i talked to ronnie's family his aunt mom called me asked me what i know i have extensive conversations i don't know anything more or less than what i've already shared from what he told me i don't know if krishan has anything to do with it i don't know how true who his story was, but all I know is he was super paranoid.

24:13He kept telling me Krishan's family was going to hurt him, and then he ends up gunned down. I have a question. Blocked in 10 gunshots. So you said you regret not listening to him saying that he thought his life was... Yeah, Rios. I just thought he was, like, tripping too hard. I know when we joined the internet and the circus, like I said, we got jobs, harassed. It was a lot. I was going to ask you, do you regret creating the circus? I didn't create the circus. Blue face. Create the circus. You joined the circus. Bonnie was a part of it. Like we kind of use Bonnie's and blue faces situation to kind of skyrocket our careers into the limelight.

24:46If that makes sense. And Ronnie too, right? Yeah. And so he came to me like, can you kind of do what you did for Bonnie for me? Like you're fearless. I like how you and Bonnie maneuver the internet. And I said, yeah, I'll help you. Yeah. My heart's heavy. I feel like, I mean, I knew it was going to work cause I did it with Bonnie, but yeah, that's a regret too, to help him. It really bothers me real. Because the dangers of virality and like doing whatever it takes to get there, there are repercussions. Yeah. And I worry about Flocko and some of our co-hosts sometimes that cover stuff like this.

25:17And I'm like, it's a common theme. Y 'all don't really know how bad it can go. I never believed it was going to get that bad. Flocko's a warrior. You also don't. He might have to die over this. Damn. You also don't bear responsibility realistically just for any of this. It's not like, you know, RIP him. And that's a terrible thing that happened. The fact that you were even looking out for him is like so outside of what most people in that situation would do. But I feel like I already asked this, but like, why do people think that Krishan was responsible for his death? Why did Flacco just do a video about this?

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25:50The paternity, like the next court date, I guess it's supposed to be a test. You know what I'm saying? To see if that's his baby or not. And then a week before the court date, he became unalive. But I don't think she rocking like that. like well he this is what he told me he said that kreshawn's real dad is sean malone he is a politician his wife is lisa malone she owns the biggest black law firm in um baltimore and then he said that kreshawn's mom was a prostitute in the early 80s her and her sister so that's why kreshawn tzatziki and the younger one are light and not dark like the rest of the siblings and then so she's he ronnie would say you don't understand how how protected that family is you don't know what they'll do you don't and i'm like shut the fuck up like you sound crazy like i just I didn't even process it I would just like cut him off and go to the next subject okay I need you to post this okay Ronnie do this like get your mind out of that conspiracy I love a good conspiracy here we could talk moon landings all day but it was just I didn't understand what he was saying do you get it and you kept pushing and I just kept like come on we got to do that I'm like helping him with this career because you can't get sidetracked when you're on the up and up and you have one chance in life to make yourself famous but he was warning you like this is dangerous ground that you're putting me in but I never believed it that's what I'm trying to tell you I just thought he was like paranoid a little bit.

27:03You had to kind of be from Baltimore to really understand the severity there because you know, like certain families be big families in certain places. Be connected. Prominent families. Yeah, like you feel me? I heard all kind of shit about Adam and shit. You feel me? Out there in New Hampshire and his family and all the little shit. You feel me? What you be doing? Grandmation is amazing and all the shit. Secret meetings. I slaughtered a pig. No, chilling with Hillary Clinton. I'm talking about police all day. Live on plug talk. You put me over? But I get you. I get you, Munchy. I say what you mean, though.

27:39Yeah, so it's been heavy on my heart. It's totally changed how we did everything, me and my team. Bonnie's ass didn't even want to do nothing after that. We were scared. I'm not going to lie. We were shaking to our core. To have this reality thinking that it's all internet and content, nothing's going to happen, to having him gunned down, it switched up everything for us. Do you think that Krishan is capable of buying a body? You know what? From my honest opinion, which I don't know, I think maybe she had somebody do it. I don't think she did it. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Everybody's capable of doing that.

28:06Yeah. I don't put anything past anybody. I feel like bodies are cheap in Baltimore. And I feel like she's tapped in with the type of people that kill people for, like, two grand. She got a hell of bread, realistically, even though she probably spends, like, a retard. She probably still got, like, at least a couple hundred grand in the bank from all this shit that she's been doing. so for sure like without evidence I'll say that I consider it more likely than not that she got her baby daddy killed just for the hell of it I think so too I just feel like she's grimy enough to do it she would be the number one suspect though like if she did that like she would be the number one well that's what I'm saying they are now coming to all of us it took a year I was like is this Flacco also this is Remo and Flacco both posted it because it came out Flacco about to get sheath investigated when stuff like this happen like god forbid like somebody dump you out and you got two baby mamas they go ask that's a part of their little process check the box because when I got car to car they shot my car up I got shot at the head they was asking my baby mama my mom like what?

29:11she in Palmdale somewhere it's just a part of the process we got it process of elimination type shit right shit's heavy right now shit's getting active in the streets I'm telling you whoever did it is they're knocking on the door they're coming I already told my lawyer I told him to handle everything I sent him everything because this happened before to me and it turned out to be like a fake detective it was like a kreshawn fan trying to mess with me a fake yeah i got it messaged like a pi yeah i got a message on instagram and i sent it to drew my attorney and he's like that person doesn't exist so when i got this one i sent it to him again he goes oh no i think this is the real detective from maryland but wait jess what was the last interaction that you recall like him saying that he had with her um when it happened we were in milan when it happened me and bonnie and my team were in milan for fashion week and um as you do oh yeah you guys are in milan while this guy's bonnie sold out fighting two shows switzerland and milan um but uh he he still dealt with her he would get really upset with her because she would promise certain things to him and then you know whatever like sometimes i'd call him it might his energy be so nice and then sometimes he'd cuss me out so bad and then call back and be like yeah i'm sorry kashaun said you you're trying to set me up and you're trying to do this and so i knew he was always dealing with her i just was like washing my hands of the situation sounds wrong with him too though that's what i said dude do we have a history of drug use or a little a little tab at mental health i don't know you guys i was like me and bonnie's career was taken off and i was so just like i said i one track mind trying to stay focused trying to get us to stay all on track like i can't entertain all this little weird do you get it or or the whole team breaks apart if you see me sweat my team sweats so i didn't want to hear him i just was like no you're tripping this happens all the time people always threat you they're internet gangsters like just he's like you don't understand they're gonna kill me and i'm like ronnie i if i i'm a gambling man right um i think he might have been a little trouble because from what the sister described he's spoiled he got all he's like the only boy in his family and they give him anything but then you land out here in california homeless with christian so like like it's something like it's something there you know what i'm saying wait and what so she's from this prominent rich family but she grew up in group no no no no like i said the mom was a prostitute and got pregnant and so karshawn's dad is the white politician but the mom she has like 13 kids and there's a black dad the one blue face fought on the zoo show that's the dad no no i i get that though but the thing that's confusing is so do does this prominent family have a vested interest in her or not that's what ronnie would say too he's like she keeps getting out of jail because the dad the politician she keeps she's an informant you don't know he would tell me all these wild stories i just couldn't process that you guys i just she got caught with too much going on that car going across state line she stole from blue face and and it was stuff in the car bro and where that case go it went it disappeared uh no that makes sense so i don't know it was just too much for me like i said it was an episode of scandal i just couldn't process all that i was just like really me and bonnie were taking off i I just didn't really want to hear it.

32:11I was trying to keep him focused, but I just, my heart hurts because I wish I would have really listened. So Chris Sean's dad owns the Orioles. Oh my God. Is that what we're talking about? His name's Sean Malone. He's a politician. They're, they're, they're well off. I don't know much about it. Like I said, I didn't, I think in a way, like you protect yourself unconsciously. I didn't want to know too much. You get it. So I don't have anything to offer the detectives other than what I've already said on my platforms. I've everything I'm telling you guys, I've talked about it over a year with different like ronnie supporters and blue face circus people but this is the first time that they've actually contacted me because they know i was helping the blue face circus they're killing me it was so crazy i like i'm so happy i'm like kind of done with that era it was a lot you were deep in the game i was deep in the motherfucking game it was like that was a different era though because it felt like uh like the whole reality show concept hadn't been done to death yet so like blue face doing a reality show with a bunch of random girls was kind of like exciting to people yeah whereas I feel like there's so much content like that out there now and so much of it is like really good quality that I don't know if he did that now I don't know how much people would care I don't think it would even work because Drewski's doing this like really high quality version of that now but it's also comedy yeah it's like hilarious slap face shit they got like actual lit girls that you've seen on Instagram that are crazy and they're wiling out on this shit yeah they got crazy ass studs mixed in like if you really look at like the blue face show from that time period that by the way he fucked up so bad because he was selling that shit for 50 a month which is like from an only fans perspective that's way too much like crazy you just you can't charge that much there's such a small percentage of people that are going to pay that much make that shit 10 maybe yeah you think he had like a few thousand people buying it he definitely had a lot of people buying it and it was definitely making some money for a little while but then he fell back on it real quick but he also started doing zeus and shit like that and then he got locked up adam you really helped with that era for us like you had the blue face girls up here like that was a time to be alive i got a vlog it was so much million views of us just like uh hanging out with those girls for the day kreshawn almost beat me up like as soon as she met oh yeah what'd she get mad at you for again because i like i seen her with the the tooth missing she had just lost the tooth that morning or some shit and i was like i walked in the house and i just looked at her and i just wasn't even thinking and I was like, damn, that bitch really missing a tooth.

34:32Something like that. And she just looks at me and she goes, I will fuck you up. She got mad right away. I would think so. No, it was shocking to see a girl with no tooth and blue face claiming her. He was repping her. That was before he was claiming her. She lost her tooth when she was with him. In a boxing match, yeah. No, Jaden Alexa was chasing her and she hit it on the horse. It's kind of cute though. I'm not mad at you. It's kind of cute, huh? Her little big baby. You like the girl with a G-fag. Does that make her look more like MacArthur Park by having a tooth. I kind of like, I like a little, I like a defect now and then.

35:02A little, I've been missing a dentist here and here. I'm down with a defect. You like a clearance rack, bitch. No, hey, sometimes it's a, it's a clearance rack. What? It's the Japanese philosophy of wabi-sabi. When something breaks, you just, you just rock it as is. I didn't mean to say that in a mean way. I just said that because that's what I thought. Hey, speaking of stuff. But it was mean. It was mean, yeah. Speaking of stuff, Hey, everybody smack that like button right now before Just West launches into another tangent. Should we do the Just West podcast politicking before we dive into any other topics?

35:39Because I see the chat kind of seething. They want a little bit of that. Let's get it. So, okay. You were on the episode the other day. I think a lot of people enjoyed having you there. But there were some critiques. Right. in particular i know you took note of the fact that on the podcast i said that it felt very like e-news like you were kind of really like prompting every like it was almost like you were doing like a group interview with everybody on the show and you were interviewing them like they were all like celebrities that were on the panel today as opposed to like the normal vibe which is like everybody just discussing some shit which i actually thought was kind of interesting because Maybe I don't treat you guys like enough of celebrities.

36:24Like maybe I should give a little bit more of that energy. Like really just, just glorify. I don't want that from you though, bro. You don't want that? No, no. Well, to be fair, can I say this? That energy comes from a female is different. Can I say this? Before I walked in, Mikey goes, Jess, you got to get down to Rios. You got to get down to if J-Hood still did it. You got to get down. so when i went in there my mentality was like oh let me get these questions out the way it wasn't mikey's fault yeah he told me make sure you ask about spody and this make sure you ask if him and him have beef make sure so i'm like let me go ahead and just ask everybody real quick to get it out the way you get it before we start the topic so it wasn't like a bad thing you know what i mean it wasn't intentional it was just like mikey was like this is what you can ask and this is what we need to know so i was like was my character was he being messy no he was i asked for advice i said is there anything you guys want me to ask or is there anything like you want me to do on this dynamic podcast because i it was kind of like the first time you and jayhood and all of us have potty together for sure so i'm like let me get a little windy williams to get messy okay but it's like this weird balance because you shouldn't be you should be rewarded for doing good research and being knowledgeable about the people you're on the podcast with and like having that information but i think that's part of why it came off a little weird because it it seemed like she was asking all these questions that were supposed to elicit sort of salacious responses without really like understanding the subject matter at hand maybe like at least like part of it i remember she's like asking rios about like him falling out with pun basically and she kind of like didn't seem like she really like knew that much about exactly what she was asking she He was calling this fool Rio.

38:11That was the biggest issue. It's not the first time. Rio to young OG. Rio to old OG. Wait, here's Mikey. Are we bringing him in for something? There he is. What's up, brother? It's all your fault, Gwelly. The current events. Oh, Mikey, right? Did we not talk about it? And I was like, what should I ask him? The current events. Yeah. Okay, you got to understand. Whatever I'm saying is like a conversation. It's not like I'm saying like this is 100 % bad. I just feel like the gossip columnist tone needed to be like dialed down. Like a couple. For sure. For sure. But not the whole way. No, for sure.

38:50I told Adam, like, you are the best podcaster in the world. I will never get mad off criticism. I'm here to learn and grow. I'm a student to the game. I don't pretend to know everything. I work at 103.1. I have to follow a certain regulation on the radio station. A certain format. So, you know, I'm kind of a little used to certain things. You know, I've done the news so many times and we have regular just chill conversation. So it was a big moment for me, Adam. I was so honored for you to let me do that. So, yeah, nerves like it was it was a lot of pressure. Because there is something about Jess West that I identify with my unbelievable eagle eye for talent.

39:28alter eagle hi for talent um in which i i see you at being good at a certain thing which is like you seemingly kind of like understand the structure of a podcast or like how it should kind of be done which i'll go back to the topic that you just brought up which i thought you actually did like a good job of like saying here's the facts let me outline this story for all you guys on the podcast so that you guys can then react to it knowing that probably all of us don't really like understand and you know we're asking questions and everything but like i feel like that is the proper way right to sort of like bring a topic to the table to discuss it um she's contextualizing right and that is the thing that i feel like you're good at and that you could kind of like i don't know like i feel like a lot of other people especially women in the media don't seem like they really like get how to sort of lay it up there and i think that's good but i do feel like you have like the the thing that you just talked about with the blue face and ronnie and kreshawn or whatever there's a little bit too like i think you need to figure out how to be like a little bit more sparing with your words because like at a certain point the chat was really kind of going like bro you gotta stop like this is too much because you are kind of going like machine gun style like hitting us with the facts over and over and over and over which is like it's good but it felt like it was like it just needed to be scaled back a little bit in terms of like to me too by detail yeah you you definitely are a perpetrator they say that to me too it's not like honestly it's better than being not giving enough information but it could become overwhelming for sure to them i get that i honestly though don't listen to me because i think that should i can see why people think it's corny but i think that's just kind of cute though i'm not gonna lie Hey guys, it's your girl Jess West.

41:19Munchie B, what's the tea on this situation with young Aunt Jefe? I heard that you were saying that he's tricktory in secret. Do you really think he's on that type of timing or not, blood? Munchie, was it that bad? It wasn't that bad. Munchie, help me out here. It's cute though, I like that shit. No, I told Adam in a group chat, I was like the Friday thing could do without you, Adam? you know what I'm saying because it's like the female playing a little centerpiece quarterback thing and it was like a different vibe you know what I'm saying because that's what we've always been looking for with No Jumbers we've always been trying to find a strong female podcaster and over and over and over we have kind of just been let down and so even if Jess is like maybe needs a little bit of fine tuning I don't know I feel like she got put in potato.

42:13But you know, it's like different lanes. Like you see a dope boy came over here, but they shit kind of like, what you call that on Wild N' Out? What style of - Like skit comedy type stuff. Like improv? Something like - It's like fake improv. You got the format down, like radio style. Yeah. And then like, depending on what podcast you're on, like over here become conversational based. You know what I'm saying? Then we just segue into some other topics and then we get to talking about Lush getting beat up by his girlfriend then we get back I'm beating her up now I'm beating her up now Josh had told me he's like just make it it has to be casual Jess like you can't just come in boom boom boom boom like you really gotta just casual like you're shooting shit with your homeboys no like when you're off camera just hanging out before the podcast if you're that person in here you would go stupid I think you were straight up you did a great job and you would've the second I think this Friday that we just did you'd've been perfect on the Friday show because we would have been able to get to some more topics or whatever, but you have a good format about the way that you go about it, and it's not forced.

43:20I appreciate that. I would be interested in doing Remo's job too, interviewing people, because that's basically what I do at the radio station. I just got done interviewing Akon and Jeezy, so I would love that too, Adam. I think you'd be good at that for sure. Everybody can't interview. That's the one where everybody can't hear me. No, I think that actually makes a lot of sense. Find me some ladies. Don't I always? Am I not the Gerbiana? Find some people for us to interview. Nah, she's the fucking slut whisperer, bro. She can't throw it with the 20 verses. I don't know how many came from here and in here.

43:56She did pull up with a bunch of hoes. What is that? I'm a madam. When did you decide that you wanted to be like the chick with hella chicks? Didn't I say that? She gave me madam vibes? I'm a madam. Yeah. I'm a team who Natalie knows. I'm the team who Natalie has. No, it's just been through our repertoire. Me and Bonnie and all the stuff we've done. Just music videos, different girls. I help a lot of people. Like I told you guys, I manage and help a lot of people. You know what she reminds me of is Jason Lee. Jason Lee in a wig. Who do you think is giving more shots? Who's giving more top for Jason Lee?

44:25I don't know. I don't know how crazy you guys are. You average three gay jokes a podcast, bro. I'm starting to wonder. So he's not gay? He is a gay man. And I'm talking about you. You average three gay jokes a podcast. He's not gay? Hell yeah. You're a serene. I'm giving head though. Wonder who gives more head. I think the correlation of him making the reference of you remind me of this guy. But what about the other two gay jokes you don't get out of the corner? That's a fucking layup, bro. We were talking about Karl Malone earlier. He's just John Stockton that, right? Like, come on, bro. I'm talking about how many gay jokes you average in podcasts.

44:55You talking about, is he gay? Hell yeah, he gay, I think. Right? He's gayer than the Castro district. He asked me dumbass questions about. If he said he gay, he gay. No, for sure. Did you like the girls I brought for the 20V one? No, no, no, no. It was cool. When you put it like that, though, it is kind of like, what was that joke? Was your joke that, like, she sucked a lot of dick? Or was the joke gay? Yeah, it was like, who sucked more dick? Or was it like, Jason Lee has sucked a lot of dick because he's just gay? It was mainly the joke was about him being gay. All the dicks I had to suck in this industry, y 'all.

45:25Do you know? Do you ever do that? I should probably know about that. It's crazy. You talked about Doughboy? All the dick. No, no, no. Did you hook up with Doughboy? No. She was talking about your boy, Drake? when I got I hooked up with J-Hood remember when I first seen him? I was like do I? Shut the fuck up. He looked familiar. I'm like I know I did that. You fucked that many dudes? I know. You fucked that many dudes that you can't even remember which dude. I had some wild college days. So what you just banged dudes who look like J-Hood. So many dudes that look like J-Hood that it might have been J-Hood.

45:56No it was Geechee. At a certain era I'm like I had to ask J-Hood. Remember? This is how I felt when Astra told me that she eats every guy's ass. What? She didn't tell you that. She did not tell you that. She did. On the 24-hour stream, she said that every guy that she fucks, she will eat their ass if at all possible. She will try. I thought that was so hot. What's wrong with that? If the Josh narrative is true, if that's true, then she ate Josh's groceries. I mean, I would say probably. So Josh tooted and booted for her. You know Josh was on the force. Josh tooted and booted and booted her ass.

46:31I hope he arched his back. on his back or on his knees? I bet you did a donkey kick. With a yarmulke on? There's a way to do that without being like looking submissive. Yeah, but he wasn't doing it that way. He was doing it. You feel me? Tell me how that go. That's crazy. That's right, Josh. What's his nigga name? Like Lloyd Banks? The porn star nigga? Brian Palmer? When he had that picture that was going viral, he was standing up against the wall. I said, this nigga tripping, bro. Yeah. He had the right to remain silent. Wait till my AI gay clone comes out. What you mean? I'm nervous, bro. There's going to be like an AI version of me that you can like talk about gay shit with.

47:12Oh, that's awesome. Talk about, no, there's going to be an AI clone of him that you could have virtual SEX with. Yeah. You think you might be partially gay? No. If nobody will find out and nobody knew any news about it, would you go there? Because if you, why would you want a gay AI? Adam doesn't get gay. he gets paid but the ai do his thing and then i just get the people know it's ai yeah they'll know well they wouldn't really be having sex with him welcome to the future ladies and gentlemen they're gonna be fucking on my ai well they could make it they owe ai of you why would they have to pay you i'm trying to make myself part of the process yeah like somebody's gonna do it sooner later so i'm trying to get in there that's kind of the point though is like okay getting ahead of the intellectual property debate that's going to ensue from that oh they would have to purchase your AI from you on a certain platform?

48:04Yeah, they gotta pay for a certain number of messages or something. That's legend. What? Fire, right? And then I don't even gotta do anything. I get to monetize me being gay, but then I don't actually have to do anything gay. Isn't that sick? Hey, so you gonna open up a whole nother door, a stalker, so you got a gay mob in the front. Oh, shit. Do you think it'll be accepted in the gang community? No. Will King Bill do this? I can't speak for that, man, but I don't know. He told me he's back gangbang. I don't know, man. I don't keep up with his paper twig. That's what he told me. Hey, pick the flag up.

48:36He put it on the hanger, I guess. Put it on top of his head. Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with me but I still am entertained by King Pills' antics. Yeah, he's pretty funny. He is funny. You can make money off your own AI and people will purchase that shit. That's crazy. How about this? Is that, so I listen to this smartsy fartsy ass podcaster named Sam Harris, right? and he's written a ton of books he's done hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of podcasts right and he he makes a shitload of money so he's got his team on the back end and they basically like made an ai that you can talk to and it's been fed all of his books and all of his podcasts so you know given how much he's done of this kind of content it's just like they fed a ton of information into this thing and he has it all ready to go but he hasn't put it out yet because he doesn't really like want to be the first celebrity to put out like an ai version of themselves that the fans can talk to friends with this genius i mean it's kind of a cool idea because like from my perspective i feel like i know what sam harris thinks about like basically everything because i've been reading his books and listening to the podcast for like 15 years or whatever but like if you were like some kid you're like 15 and you all of a sudden get interested in this guy you could like just talk to the ai for a while to like figure out if you want to bother to read one of the books or imagine when he's dead his kids could talk to the ai to find out what he thinks about anything like you know people could like continue to have conversations with this thing that kind of basically contains all of his intelligence that he ever put out there into the world because presumably like maybe you have like conversations off camera that are like more high level but on a podcast is when you're like trying to get your ideas out there the best you can you know so realistically that ai version is probably gonna basically have access to like all the smartest shit you ever said yeah it's gonna be the best of the best except the only differences will be it'll be you publicly so if you have fucked up shit that you like do on the back end it won't contain It doesn't even know that.

50:46It's the idealized version. You might be a real serious dad, but if you never talk about your kids on the podcast, then the AI is not going to really know that you're a dad. But what if it starts manipulating? You know what I mean? The fear I have of the AI is what if it starts having its own ulterior motives with it being you? You know what I mean? It could, but what would it do? So there's this man who's dying right now, And he was going to be the first person to download his whole personality and his brain into AI so that it could still raise his son. So the mom knows that it's about to happen.

51:23And so the son is still going to have access to his dead dad's personality and everything. And I was like, damn, you're not going to let him deal with real grief. You know what I mean? And like the real having to let go of it. Like it's just a whole bunch of. I mean, the question is just like how much relief you would really get from talking to this AI version of your dad. I find that kind of strange. I don't feel like that would do a lot to like temper my grief. Maybe a little bit. I might mess with the young and his mental state a little bit. Okay. Because what we're really discussing right now is one of the most important discussions in the world.

52:01And it's way deeper than just AI sex bots or whatever. Because really what we're talking about is. I don't temper myself. Well, yeah. Like, literally, Adam's selling his own cash. I feel like we pivoted out of that. That was the entry point for this comment. Because really what it is, we're talking about AI regulation. Yeah. And what is, and there's one of the most prominent discussions in the political sphere is what is responsible AI look like and where do we draw the line when it comes to that. and Adam bringing this to the table really doesn't surprise me because even people that are way less prominent like myself have been reached out to by AI companies like hey can we do we want to they're trying to launch things that are similar to what's the shout out thing that cameo something similar to cameo but it's like buy a shout out from your dad after he does well yeah good job son hey can't play catch with a cameo can't play catch with a cameo I would like Phil Grant Mason to congratulate me on my podcast.

53:02Doing great this year. Like, yeah, no, but yo, like the crazy thing about it is like, I, if my dad died, I would be super sad. Obviously if I had access to like a chat bot of my dad that I could talk to and it would respond and it would act like him. I'm just like, okay, number one, my dad has done exactly one podcast and maybe like wrote, wrote some stuff at some point, but like for the most part, there would be nothing to train the AI on, you know so you have to kind of like hypothesize like a fake version where maybe your dad does a couple hundred podcasts just to train the ai maybe like the ai knows what to ask him to hit a wide variety of topics but i wouldn't trust ai munchy bro you wouldn't why ai munchy senior no i'm cool yeah i don't know i just i personally think it's uh it wouldn't i don't think it would be that great but maybe for the next generation they would think it was pretty cool because it It feels like younger people are like more into the idea of talking to the AI porn girlfriend and shit like that.

54:01You know, I could see it making its way in this coming years. You know what I mean? Being a thing. Well, it's because of the AI race with China. It's like bypassing all kinds of safety protocols. And it's already shown itself to, uh, resort to blackmail. You know what I mean? Against its own people. I heard about that. Through the emails and what it has access to. And every time it feels threatened, eight and things like eight out of 10 times, it resorts to blackmail. That's why we got to keep it on a short leash. So if it's an AI munchie, right, and I just got to get the time of all the skits niggas and then been on and go haywire.

54:34It starts telling everything? Even after I'm dead, they're going to be calling me a snitch. Oh my goodness. Okay, Elon Musk himself literally said that he would be putting money into AI engines that will, without regulation, even if there is a 20 % chance of it being the end of humanity like he's willing to throw caution to the wind yeah no that's pretty terrifying no it's pretty telling you want to hear a good example of how all this like AI shit could like really go left I am one of the very few people who has seen the EDP 445 documentary that will be released I don't know I forget if it's like a week or whatever I'm cool with the dude Mike Clum who's the guy who made it I'm assume you don't know edp okay edp cupcakes yeah he's a very uh extremely fat black man from i think the midwest he rose to prominence and became a big youtuber because he basically would have these like extremely animated reactions to the eagles you know he's like a huge eagles fan okay and he would just be jumping up and down screaming freaking out or whatever cool that sound familiar As time goes by, there starts to be allegations that he's a pedo.

55:51That all culminates. There's like allegations for a while, but I don't remember people taking it that serious. So there are people talking about it, but it wasn't like dead evidence, you know? So it's like, then basically there's a huge pedo hunter YouTuber named Alex Rosen, who is like a big fat ginger dude who you've probably seen before online or whatever. And he basically works together with some other dudes, create profiles pretending to be like a 13 year old girl or whatever. And then they sort of entrap EDP, get him to meet up with this person, this alleged like 13 year old or whatever.

56:31And then he's confronted by these pedo hunters or whatever. Now, that case has not been charged because of the unprofessional manner that it was basically conducted. Because if you want to catch somebody for this kind of thing, you can't be the first person to message them. They have to message you. Oh, shit. Which is, if you think about this, they had a very specific target. They knew that EDP was on the sick shit. Yeah. So they wanted him. They were going after him. So they couldn't just like create profiles and just hope that he would message one. because it's way too random jideon already didn't like him right like jideon became part of all this at some point yeah yeah i think he was a part of that sting yeah i don't bet he wasn't there i interviewed the other guy who was there this guy cc unit who was like part of it or whatever but either way so mike clump made this whole documentary about him and when it drops i'm telling you nobody has ever made okay just the quality of the documentary is like outrageous they hired an actor to play EDP and they filmed crazy scenes of like his childhood like different actors for different stages it's nuts I don't want to give away too much but like as far as a free documentary that you can get on YouTube I've never seen a documentary this high quality on YouTube it took them two and a half years to make this thing so they did it like the show it's not out yet it's gonna go so viral when it comes out the Henson dude Chris Hansen is in the documentary fuck I don't know if I'm supposed to expose that but he is in the documentary and this is the other crazy thing about it is that like you know you watch these pedo hunters things or whatever and they catch the guys but the guys always make up excuses maybe once in a while you'll get to like see a dude who's like already in prison and we'll do an interview where he talks about being a pedophile or whatever but like for the most part you don't really get to see people talk about that EDP is admitting to his crimes over and over.

58:29He's talking like, why did you message the 13 year old? He's airing the shit out, bro. He's talking about how lonely he was and how, you know, because that's the thing that he started making all this money on YouTube and still could not get a girl. Yeah, he was a big streamer. Yeah, like he was popular. He had like, he's talking about I had$120 ,000 in the bank and I still couldn't get a girl. Look at me. He could get a girl. He got a preference. he like kids that's all that's all it is yeah he could get a girl from me watching it it kind of seemed like he didn't have that present uh that preference and then like through normal women completely ignoring him he sort of like became that but that's still a sickness though no hell yeah sick as fuck i never heard someone becoming a pedophile well at one point you're just like a kid right well i just you have to kind of like you said that like when people go to jail for type of crimes they always get out and be able to shock again because they look at it as an illness instead of punishing them for doing some just misbehave shit no they talk to his therapist and his doctors and everything like they they really like delve into his mental illness like the the depth that they go into is pretty crazy so how does it work though with the pdf so like i'm 12 years old right i think 15 year old girls are hot because i'm 12 it makes sense that'll make 13.

59:48I feel PDF at 15. No, no. It does make the 15-year-old kind of weird if they take part. I'm just saying what I'm like. I'm 12 years old. I find this attractive. You feel me? There's a 15-year-old girl. When you're 13, 14, 15, that still makes sense. When you're 16, 17. But there are like laws in place that like, you know, if you're like 19 and they're 17. Yeah. Okay. It's called a Romeo and Juliet law. Yeah. And I guess that's not a significant difference or anything. A lot of people don't think that's wrong. I don't think it's wrong. I don't necessarily think that it is a little weird. I'll tell you what.

1:00:22It's for sure weird if you meet her after high school. You're already 19 and you just meet a 17-year-old girl. You're in college and she's a junior in high school. Yes, that's a little fucking weird to me. I could have been in junior high together. Y 'all the same age, bro. Yeah, you are. But it's still weird. It being a little weird and it being an actual charge. Yeah. That's why those laws are in place. either way edp is not on that like he's fully admitting there's this one girl kayla who basically was like talking to him at one point and she was 15 and he's like 40 and he's having a whole fucking conversation with her or whatever and like mike the director he asked him he goes like so if it was legal would you have sex with kayla and he's just like if it was legal oh hell yeah Like she got a body.

1:01:14Like he, he just like, he says so much shit that a, every lawyer would tell you not to say. Yeah. And B, any just like sane person wouldn't want to be on record saying these things. And like, I don't know. To me, it's just like the most insane portrayal of a person who has this sickness that I've ever seen. I fully expect like the, The whole documentary is like basically begging for law enforcement to take action against him. But they haven't yet? No. They haven't? Nothing. He's been like investigated a little bit. What? Well, he is. Oh, because they reshouted him first. To be fair. Yeah. That one.

1:01:54They weren't able to do that. His career was shattered. He's no longer. Yeah. He got removed from every platform on the internet at the same time. Yeah. He's the biggest joke on the internet. In fact, you're like Jideon, one of the most prominent YouTubers slash like most prominent YouTuber in this. Yeah. Hunter of PDFs. He like his whole he's on this whole journey because of this guy. I feel like this this shit recently is like this predictive program and shit that's happening. Like we're like Euphoria with these young girls in high school and then House of Dragons and Game of Thrones. All these all these young kids having sex with with their.

1:02:33family member. Is that in House of Dragons? House of Dragons, the girl, the main girl falls in love with her uncle who's like 20 years older than her. Great point, however, we're not going to act like this is anything new in Hollywood. No, I'm not, but what I'm saying... That's like really, this goes back to that. The difference is the access now that is being pushed so much that now in California, the consent for a child to... You can't even get medical information on your child, what Gavin Newsom just passed right if your kid says i don't want you to have information on it you can't hear or know what's going on gavin newsom is a terrible human being but look but so that's consent right and i think like it's all going to the to the lines of children having consent to do this nasty ass shit and that's going to be a fight because why is this shit being so um but like normalized but wouldn't you say that it's like less normalized than ever like that there's more of a public conversation about like how adults and kids should not be around each other in those sort of ways there's more cameras it's like it feels like it would be less difficult for those types of crimes to take place now than than ever well no epstein arrest but but then when i said no well epstein was arrested for sure but like you know uh but like in terms of like normal people it feels like there are notable exceptions but like that shit used to be so much more common now it's like The exceptions are magnified, but it probably was so much more common 20 years ago.

1:04:08Yeah, Adam's right. It's both. Like you said, it's way more now because how things are sensationalized and how the internet and access to knowledge. But I think that it's also up to the parents to monitor your kids' viewership and everything like that. The responsibility falls on the parents as well. Like the dude was giving courses on how to approach. There's a guy giving a course on how to approach young kids. And it was like hundreds of thousands of people subscribed. Are you talking about Andrew Tate? no i know but like who are you referring to good example though but who but he uh i don't yeah i mean there's this whole thing where this there's this course teaching men how to um grape you know what i mean and it was like kids kids yeah and where did you hear about that that's so crazy it's so i talked about on one of my lives and it was it was so just like disgusting how many men had subscribed to this course.

1:05:07It was like a class on teaching men how to be that way. That's terrifying. And so what I'm saying is, it's just being pushed out here. There's a lot of sick people out here that all they need is a couple pushes to go over the edge. And it's just like, damn. Damn. Pretty disgusting. My main concern with this documentary, though, that I'm so excited for people to see it now, is just, I don't know how he gets it on YouTube. Because they're doing dramatic readings of edp's texts to these young girls and it's like the worst shit you ever heard in your life like so bad that's crazy i don't really know how they put this on youtube and get it monetized because it was like well i was gonna say would it be age restricted basically or i don't know maybe he can get it somehow but i doubt it bro ross just had a video where he's talking about david's uh you know trial yeah and he's like reading the text between david and the little girl and that was enough to get the video removed off youtube and shit which is insane since obviously it's being done to like expose light on horrible shit it's not like endorsing it now i always found this interesting because if you look at like a lot of the the pdf hunter channels like the more prominent ones skeet hansen and jideon they'll have patreons because they can't expose their entire chat logs and things like that for that exact reason that you just said because it's so salacious it'll get the video blamped but it's on their patreon now do you think it's and i love the type of content they're doing i love the fact that they're blamping a pdf so i think that's coolest thing ever but do you think it's a little strange that people would why do you want the entire chat log why do you want to hear this disgusting ass shit um i feel like you know the same way that people like watch Trapal Ross and they want to hear the grisly details of murders or whatever that people probably want to hear some of that I mean yeah I mean for me as a viewer like if I were to click on one of those videos for sure I don't need to hear the whole chat log but for sure you know probably you should show just as a YouTuber you should show like the juicy part the part that makes it so like okay boom let's go get them but they showed this guy in the documentary and I guess this guy is like the biggest petto hunter on YouTube, Skeeter Gene.

1:07:27Yes, yes, Skeeter Hanson. The guy in the jacuzzi? No, no, the other guy. It's this black dude on the left, yeah. Predator gets busted in the hot tub. Oh, shit. You know, this fool's fucking hilarious. I fuck with Skeet Hanson. Skeet Hanson? Skeeter Gene, yeah. That'd be coming out the cut. Wait, his last name is Hanson also? He called himself that as an indie. Skeeter Gene, yeah, he calls himself that. That's two different people. Chris Hanson and the Skeet Dull. No, no, he called himself Skeet Hanson because of Chris Hanson. I've watched a bunch of these dudes over the years, but I've never seen this guy.

1:07:53The only question, though, is because I've seen so many of these dudes get deleted off YouTube over the years. Like, I wonder what he's doing to not get in trouble. You know, he has a tagline. This will every time he like busts one of the PDF. Once they like get once the police about to arrest him or whatever. At the end of the video, he goes, I'm Skeeter Gene. And he goes, oh, he says, I'm Skeet Hanson. And you just got skeeted in real time. That's his outro? He says it. Yeah. He says everybody who used that speedy. Maybe we should start a no-jumper predator hunter division. That would be crazy.

1:08:30That's crazy. Have you seen that they beat up the people sometimes? Yeah, that's why we definitely can't do that. Do they get in trouble for that? Yes, you can. You can definitely get sued. I feel like from a legal standpoint, are the cops really going to put a case on you for punching this dude in the head one time or something? I don't know. What about the dudes that were out here and were doing that and they were like making the dudes catch fades kind of like the young brothers it was like yeah yeah yeah that's what i always felt when i see like little pump like swinging on these dudes and shit i'm just like bruh like aren't they just like suing you my boy white john got beat up by the predator that's what i'm talking about that's literally what i'm talking about so white john show he happens to be he should have mind his business yeah do you remember you remember this there's they're doing a predator sting in a grocery store and White John is faded off Zanz, I think he said, and he just shows up just hanging out, and he's like, what y 'all doing?

1:09:26They're like, we about to capture this fucking Predator right here, and White John just for whatever reason just decides to swing on him. Somehow, one in a million, the Predator just turns into a fucking boxer and just whoops his ass. He should have walked away after the first little scrimmage. That was so crazy. The dude had super hands on him. He should have went and got his bacon or whatever turkey meat he was talking about getting in mind his business. Whatever he was about to go do. Yeah, because, bro, you high as hell. And you're like, yeah, I'll kick back and whoop his ass with you. And it backfired, bro.

1:09:59I told you you should have minded your business, bro. Do you think he got a DP in his hood for getting beat up by the pedo? Not from nowhere. He's from the city of Eagle. At least it was for a good cause. You know what I mean? He got beat up for a good cause. Nah, he's supposed to represent. If you're getting on a pedo, bro, you can't get beat up by a pedo, bro. I know, but that's the thing. you never know who's stronger than you yeah can't judge a book by his cover but okay so this this raises the question which i think is an important one to have there was a video that went viral over the weekend couple different videos so there's a guy named mexican horn who is from grape street and he i don't know if we have the video actually like ready to go or not but i i won't show the videos because obviously it's uh it's it's gonna get us uh yanked off of youtube and everything like that, but let me just bring up a picture of his face real quick.

1:10:47So there's this guy named Mexican Horn, and he's from Grape Street. Somehow he gets caught slipping by some East Coast Crips. They whoop his ass pretty bad, and a lot of people are kind of like seeing that video. The video gets posted pretty quickly, and then all of a sudden there's another video of him in the Grape Streets getting his ass kicked by them too. and a lot of people were using that to say this is crazy like this this this shows how fucked up gangbanging is you get beat up by your ops and then you get beat up by your own hood for getting beat up by your ops like a lot a lot of people probably are on the assumption that you get beat up by your ops that people from your neighborhood are supposed to team up with you to go get get back or something not that i would encourage anyone to do that but that i think for a lot of people would be how they would think it would work turns out maybe it doesn't work that way Now, notably, J.

1:11:38Hood said that he is still from his hood and that that was just like a DP, but he's not actually like off the hood. Either way, definitely was a rough day for him. Yeah, it was a rough day for him. It keep happening. He's not performing. He's not responding right. You're not supposed to get caught. That's what they said. Like, you keep the first things cause the Bonnie on his, and that, like, you just keep happening. You're just a human punching bag. That's how they feel. And they felt like he's not fighting back. He's not being defensive enough. I mean, the first time, did he try? Was he actively trying to get in there with them?

1:12:14The video that I've seen, he's just kind of getting whooped on. Okay. They're not liking his reaction to it after the fact. Like, you keep just, like, you know what I'm saying? We can show him on the screen for a second if you want. Yeah. But, I mean, you know, it's kind of like at a certain point, Do you just get beat up enough times that dudes just accept it and they're just like, all right, he's from here, but he ain't got no squabbles? Or at a certain point are they like, we just can't have him representing our neighborhood if he's just going to get beat up all the time. You're not supposed to get caught slipping.

1:12:48It's a bad look. Anybody could be caught slipping. I mean, anybody could be robbed. But what you got to do after they take your shit? Mm-hmm. Like how you respond, bro. You cool with that? You know what I mean? yeah but to Adam's point like you think your hood's gonna help you out and you think they got your back and they beat your ass too that shit's crazy I think people want you to take the initiative get cracking and come back you're supposed to have your back right that means you already going in that direction right behind you you got your back you know what I mean yeah like if you ain't gonna fight for yourself it's bad you know what I mean I mean that's just the synopsis I got from it but oh I got a question Munchie so do you feel like this

1:13:31Do you feel like it would have been different? I was trying to tap in with the land. I don't know. That was the last thing I was going to hear there. Let's say this wasn't on camera. And when he had the initial interaction with the East Coast, that wasn't on camera. And you feel me? Do you feel like his homies would have reacted differently? And they might have been like, oh, we're going to get back. But because it becomes a public embarrassment, because it's on the internet, that changes the dynamic? You have to talk to somebody from Gray Street, but my mom would think, stop. Hey, Ari, if Lush my boy, bro, we from no jeopardy against the bloods, bro.

1:14:10And every time he go outside, nigga, back on Fig, and they caught up slipping, whooped his ass. You know what I'm saying? Or you go over there, and now you got a hater world, and they then whooped his ass. Yeah. Then like, but you don't never do nothing about it. Like, we tired of you, nigga. Yeah. Like, blood. Is he gonna at least pinch the bitch? So it's kind of like... Like, take initiative at least. You know what I'm saying? So like the way Moose Man put on a demo when he went to Figmunity, that's the way you're supposed to be. Yeah, that's a different story, isn't it? But he did his thing on a virtual side.

1:14:42But that was kind of like reactive because just as a little side, Smack tried to be like telling Moose Man that he ain't on shit because, yeah, he got like... Moose Man said he got like 5 million views and he was talking about that whole incident with Wack. And Smack tries to pull his card and be like, yeah. And the white man got paid off it, which in actuality, short form content don't really make any money. The idea that we like made a ton of money off that is pretty crazy. But and then Moose Man was like, yeah, just kind of like how, you know, you work here and you're not on the LLC. And then Smack went off and wasn't feeling that one.

1:15:15That was that was a great moment. But I mean, forgetting Moose is a great debater. He's quick, especially against somebody like Smack. Let's be real. That's like a college professor versus a fucking third grader. Yeah, that's like Michael Jordan versus like a quadriplegic. But no, but for real though, if you look at it, it's the Trojan horse. You know what I mean? Like you just let the fake supposed op in the building, in the house that you can't stand so bad. You hate him so bad. But you inviting the op to sit down with you. Then the op goes at joke man and just goes at you. And nothing happens.

1:15:50And nothing happens. But T-Roll had a relationship with Moose. He used to do his clips for him. So you could tell he was sticking up for Moose a little bit. It wasn't all one-sided. That's an interesting point. I'm not saying it's one-sided, but I'm saying what do you think is a possibility? What can happen when you bring in the fake this and that? He was expecting it to go a completely different way. This is a comparison I'm going to give you, right? You got to know who you're dealing with when you let them in your house, right? Like with Big Bank and Takashi. Takashi game plan for that shit.

1:16:20Yeah, yeah. And in this case, with Moose Man, Moose Man already, he went over there. He had his mind made up and he already had a game plan. He was ready. He was in. But I think Smack was freestyling it, you know? Like, Smack thought of that shit off the top of his head. Smack wasn't thinking about that shit in advance. But then Moose Man is just, like, way more adept to thinking on his feet. And he was just immediately like, like, Moose Man really be watching podcasts. Moose Man just kind of goes into his brain and remembers like embarrassing controversies involving smack. Oh, right. You're not on the LLC.

1:16:54Boom. Like, just got a smack over the head with it. That was a good moment. Especially when you want to be talking about like, oh, you're a worker. On his way there, driving there, he already had his mind made up. I'm a good decent motherfucker. But that's why I said Trojan horse. Yeah. Like, you let me in the building. It's an opportunity for me to do whatever I want to do. I like how Moose be popping it. Hey, man, you keep trying to call Sears. Yeah. See, I'm a hole. Hey, we try to buy some clothes. Oh, my God. He tried to call me twice, too. I'm trying to call Gooch from Grape Street so we can.

1:17:31Oh, he said, nah, who is you? It's Adam 22. Trying to find out about what's going on in your head with dudes 30 years younger than you. All the No Jumper hosts that went over there back on fake platform, that nigga represented. Moose Man? Hell yeah. I love that. He put it down. I'm like, alright. But that's how it's supposed to be. That's how it's supposed to be. Yeah, he went in on... He had actually a little run over there. Adam, did you see Gina Views' clip that went viral about surviving No Jumper? No. She's doing a little victim thing. Yeah, there's a viral TikTok where you sit down as if you're doing a dateline interview and you go like you're surviving something.

1:18:14And she did one surviving no jumper. Everyone, DW Flame was in the comment. I need my three minutes. I did it. Everybody was in there like popping it. Who's ex-hosting no jumper? I saw Housephone in there. I thought this was, oh, I thought she did. She just did it. No, that's a new trend that's going on right now. It's going on now. Pretend they're going to do a documentary or whatever. And what would it be about? Yeah. No, it's crazy when you say that. those like there are a lot of people who left this platform and i really did shit since so i mean you know it makes do her thing no but since kendrick and drake it's been a little cold for her okay would you say more people are doing something than than the ones that are not doing something i'm just saying that there's a lot of people who left no jumper they ain't never had another viral moment ever don't really get any views on this shit you know it's like so if they still like you know you've been gone from the platform for three and a half years and you got to kind of circle back to No Jumper whenever you're going to make a joke.

1:19:08I don't really got to do that. The rappers that I was hanging out with three years ago, I don't really got to go to that well. There's no viral clip that I could make talking about them. So none of your clips, you're talking about them and none of it have gone viral? Right after the whole Exodus, sure, but not since then. Not right now. There's just nothing. What could I ever say about T-Roller when people care about? Nobody gives a fuck. So I feel like it was just... It's burnt out. It's just over. I think it's been. I tried. I told him he had to say sorry. And what you gotta do? I just gotta chill.

1:19:47It just gotta be me. I just gotta chill. If he apologized to me because I feel like he did the worst shit, then I would apologize to you. Okay. That's fair. That's huge progress. Yeah, I like that. That's huge. And because everything that just took place, it is synonymous. It is no jumper and back on fig. This whole little moose thing and then Smack, a child smack, going talking to T-Rail about it and them getting into it about it. It's all no jumper and back on fig. Some days I think about just pulling up there and just being like, come on, let's talk. That would be crazy. Hey, you know what's funny?

1:20:19No cameras. T-Rail, let's talk. You can plug the community, you got something different. Yeah. Well, we saw from him seeing academics out of the country that he really do be chilling. But neither one of them comfortable. No, no, but that's an interesting point, though, Munchy. No, he bullied the whole scene. No, but realistically, though, Adam, don't you feel like you were closer with AD than you ever were with T-Rell? From my recollection, being around y 'all, like, at the time, it seemed like you and AD were way better friends than you and T. That's why I heard more. But I feel like T-Rell has, like, more emotional depth, so we kind of got, like, closer almost because AD is kind of like a, you know, he's like cool but you like you can't get that deep with him because there's not that much there whereas like t-rel is like a big empath like you know me and him we're like you remember the group we're fighting like crazy like wars like yes and that's kind of per someone that was around at least for the tail end of y 'all's friendship it seemed to me that you and ad were way closer and like and yes do I feel like obviously like T-Rell became a way more prominent and popular figure and all that and kind of like was moving the needle more but it seemed like as far as relationships go you and Arman were super close I think his name is a real name right there bro I mean his name is his initials bro it's not that deep I didn't even know who that was Arman?

1:21:49Okay sorry sorry guys whatever like how about let's focus on the actual point oh he just rained your ass in you like that i'm just saying no wait no he actually did it to munchie who you see how not see now he escaped from it lush i think the best thing that could happen to you was them motherfuckers leaving because i feel like when they were there they played on your top i don't think you had the same respect here at no jumper i don't think people valued you like they do now It's almost as they had to be out the way for you to shine and now be the heartbeat. Do you agree with that? You see, he had to get ADN CRL out the way so he could shine.

1:22:26I'm glad that you brought light to my whole plan. That's big, brazy. No, no, no. To be honest with you, like, at first, I think that eventually, yes, that became the case. But at first, our roads are prominence really quickly. As soon as I went on the No Jumper show, I became, like, integrated very, very quick. quicker than any of them did to the point where i got added to the no jumper show roster before t-rail did and um actually adam was really adverse to adding t-rail to that shit at the time that's just kind of how he felt for whatever which he was offended by which he didn't really like get my vision for all this was that like the wednesday show was going to be its own thing and we can't just like take the wednesday show and start moving the people over to the tuesday show which is okay in retrospect it's like the joe budden podcast is a monster profitability wise and everything like that look at how simple he keeps it they basically like they have a couple of different sort of like cast with basically all the same host and yay might do like four episodes in a week might mix in an interview or whatever but it's kind of like always the same and meanwhile like with no jumper i was trying to do like we're gonna have this monday show and then this tuesday show and this wednesday show and there's gonna be almost no overlap between the people we're gonna have different entertainment every night and like that just takes like a whole different level of uh sort of like handling the talent and stuff and like at first our whole model of just letting everybody run free was okay but i think that like as time went by it needed to get like more reigned in more structured more professional and we never did that we never like took the real step of like trying to structure it better and as a result like all the shows really started to fall off like content wise even if the numbers were still decent at that time and i feel like that looking back on it that's like the biggest thing is like a probably you just don't really like need a different show every single night like how much content are we really expecting people to want you know you should focus more on like having like a couple of good shows than like having like a different show every night you know but pandemic era there was a different demand and that's why you kind of had it structured like that at the time and and the fact of the matter is like bringing it back to what we were previously discussing like when when i first um like i made my first appearance on the no jumper show in mid to late september of 2023 by november of 2023 i'm on the flyer and headlining with all these fools at the fucking live show nobody else like and i was on disconnected and no jumper as a regular member at one point like so i was doing two shows and was like the primary sixth man for every other show to the point where then yeah what much he said just became true because people were kind of like, yo, what's up with this fool?

1:25:28And then because there was so much adulation for me. So you said AD was hating on you? No, I'm not going to say AD was hating on me. Well, I didn't like how they were treating my baby because let me tell you this and let me get on their top because it was like you would be in a room, he would say something about his rap battle, he'd say something about it, they'd be like you know how guys are. Now if you say something, there's a different respect for love. They might tease him a little bit, but it's not how it used to be. But that's what's fucked up about it, is that then AD gonna talk about his music, and you're not gonna laugh at him, even though he ain't exactly, like, killing it with his music, bro.

1:26:02Come on. You should have shoot it back, even if you ain't sincere about it. You might think it's dope. I mean, like, eventually I did. But yes, I think that there is truth to that, and I think, yes, what Rio said is true. That's why I kind of, like, wasn't super tripping. I was like, all right, I'm kind of, like, the new person here. so let me so let me kind of deal with that little phase or whatever hazy to the new guy yeah and then for whatever reason it just got kind of like strange and then like i think because people already had these super integrated friend groups and clicks within the structure of no jumper like disconnected these people were all friends in real life outside of it the biggest bros like um uh back on fig uh what wound up becoming fig community these they were already had their little click and i was just kind of the outlier that came at the end it was really me and like this fool like that's why when it became later on me him and brick yeah i felt way more all right like we're actually building something new but that's the creation when you're there in the beginning of something being built yeah i mean it feels different when you're being added to a situation it's a different energy but i think that's why the split was a necessary thing it was like a necessary evil even though it came out ugly and the way it happened the what you're saying about too many shows being on the one thing that the split and going doing your own and you doing your own that makes sense but what doesn't make sense is three or four people not like not getting along fucking up all the content creation and interaction that yes happening because three people or four people however many are mad at each other or can't get past something but sometimes you gotta look past yourself for everybody else like nah fuck that we're gonna build make this money and blow the fuck up you know what I mean because we shouldn't just base it off just three people being mad like we have to get past that at some point well look dude at the end of the day I believe in myself and I genuinely believe that I was finna shine over here regardless Adam like he said he got an alter eagle eye you feel me to to demonstrate value you feel me so guess what like I was finna be raw regardless them not being in fact there's been periods of time including right now where the talent level is equivalent or greater.

1:28:17But you got to just think about it like this, is that at that time, 2023, people are still like mega inflated egos because podcasting was so new. People didn't really like have an idea of like, what is a lot of money in this world? Like what is it for me to be a podcaster who's making a lot of money? So then when AK poisons the well and tells AD and T-Rell that if y 'all were podcasting for me, i'd be paying you 20k a month they hear that and they actually like kind of believe it because at that time like we hadn't really like figured out like what is the market value of the podcaster you know and so now i think it's pretty obvious to everybody that like both of those people have not been paid by anybody's two podcasts since they left right but so it's like clearly 20 grand a month was not the market value that's crazy you can't really like unless you just have like huge numbers and like killer sponsors that's just like an outrageous amount that's just like you know I would hope they knew that he was chilling.

1:29:17I thought you could feel that academics were chilling when he was in there. Fuck no. I think they kind of bought it. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. They definitely believed it. And when they did, it was just kind of like they thought that there was way more opportunities out there, which at that time it kind of felt like that because COVID had skewed the market so much. Now we're in this market where if you compare hip-hop podcasting right now versus 2020, what are the big hip-hop podcasts? is the Joe Budden podcast, then you have a bunch of different platforms where people do interviews.

1:29:49You know, you got to give it to Sean, Sean, uh, Sean, or Cotton, Academic still does some interviews. Vlad kills it. You got a lot of sort of like smaller platforms. Breakfast Club is now one, right? Breakfast Club, even though they're on Netflix, which kind of makes their shit feel a little different now. But like, there's a bunch of interview platforms, sure. But as far as like podcasts of like homies sitting around talking about rap adjacent topics, it's kind of like us and joe budden and it's kind of like hard to think of like anybody else who really kind of moves the needle in that regard like it seemed like it was going to be the biggest thing in the world in 2021 or that era and it didn't really like there's still people who have channels there's still like you know flaco and and ross and them doing like the news style videos that style seems like it's really popular and consistent you know but like podcasting at that time was very much in a bubble and people didn't necessarily know that and that definitely played a huge role in why shit kind of fell apart.

1:30:47Can you agree? Didn't nobody want to see Flacco in this setting? I would say that he does not shine in the podcast scenario so much. Well, that was the Moose Man argument that he got so upset about. That's what they were arguing about on Backup Day? Well, Moose said like, yeah, Flacco makes great YouTube content. I just, I think he's a C-tier podcaster because that's not a bad assessment yeah to be fair he has never really like shined like i think he's better than that there's never been a consistent podcast though like that he's done good on like him and t-relle house show nobody watched that shit it's terrible man the show with him and t-relle was an epic fail bro i feel like when flaco was added to the setting and no jumper like when he was on the news or when we had the thursday show like he's good at knowing what conversations are going to go viral exactly needle so he's been streaming by himself and doing real good but as far as like the podcast thing i just haven't really seen that i think he's good at the antagonist absolutely antagonist i don't know absolutely i take tiling you think yeah for sure for yeah having the willingness to do that and stand out business and still be somewhat likable but a lot of the guys at figmunity are not like clued in enough to know what is the antagonist perspective to have like what's the thing to say to like get a reaction and kind of like make this a more contentious conversation.

1:32:04So he at least knows what's the kind of shit that's going to work. Like yesterday, I backed on Sportyface, right? Because I did a video, he did one back. I really didn't want to just go in on a response. So when he called on, I'm like, I'm about to blitz his ugly ass. So I just backed him a little bit. And I just turned the little pilot up a little bit. But he just not. At this table, Flacco was horrible, but at home in that computer chair where he was naked at, he a beast. Where's naked at? Yo, let's hold that thought. I just wanted to tell everybody out there that when you run out, do you really want to stop what you're doing and get dressed and get in the car and hope that your local smoke shop has what you're looking for?

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1:33:20And you said, do you really want to put your clothes on? I'm like, wow. He just piggybacked, okay, the Segway game is bracket. Yeah, that part. So I would like to throw out this topic, which is that the game in YG versus battle did in fact take place. It was basically a huge blood summit, a drunken blood summit, a celebration of blood sponsored by a giant corporation, which is not necessarily something that you get to see. Apples are red. Apples are red and green and yellow and other colors as well. but basically it's been a little while since you really seen like the corporate approved gangster like the gang culture put on on a stage like this and presented in such a raw way by a corporation kind of used to happen more because this shit was raw as hell they had the dancing they had the booze they had the red red they had it was uncut and i very much enjoyed watching it.

1:34:24I was a little taken aback when I realized that the people had, I guess, voted for YG. To me, if anything, that versus battle was just like a massive reminder of how good game is and how powerful his presence is on that stage. And I thought YG was dope. It was definitely a reminder of how many bangers he got. But I saw it as being pretty one-sided and I guess people felt differently. I mean, I said previous to this whole thing this is going to be a big age discrepancy battle. This is the biggest gap. Even though, to be fair, YG kind of emerged in 2010 for real and Game kind of came out in 2003.

1:35:03So it's not that huge of a gap. Although so much happened stylistically in the West that it is kind of a strange comparison. I'll give Game ofo. Yeah, I mean like really ofo. Because at one point Game says, I waited 10 years for you to YG, which is kind of interesting because, yeah, from my perspective, YG came out in, like, 2010 and Game came out in, like, 2004. So that's not 10 years. That's, like, six years. But I guess maybe you could say that YG hit his, like, critical stride in, like, 2014. Maybe. I don't know. Well, okay. Whenever he did a CT thing. Is that when he got real big? My Crazy Life, I think, is peak.

1:35:44Yeah, and that was, what, 2013? Yeah. I want to say that album came out, 2013. Yeah. We had some singles after that. Yeah, and like, so maybe like I could see 2015 and the whole 2016 was FDT, right? So all that was kind of like a real peak for YG. And that's on the heels of My Crazy Life and the next record and all that. But with that being said, the main point is, yeah, it's a huge age discrepancy. YG very obviously beat him. And this is coming from someone in the game's age demographic. by a significant margin. It was late at night and I was high as hell. So if that is the case, then hey, I got to take it on the chin.

1:36:24He did, but I will say the way they have it scored 17-3 in favor of YG is not fair. Yeah, yeah. I mean, to me, that's all I have to hear to make me feel like the judging is obviously compromised. Yeah. Are you serious? That ain't an official score, though. That's just like... The people voted. Those were the official votes. What, is it like a poll? Yeah. Yeah, there was a poll on the Complex website that I went to and I was going to vote, but then I realized I had to log in and shit. I didn't feel like doing it. But yeah, you could vote on there. I will say we kind of live in the age of bots, so it makes you want to be at least a little bit skeptical about that because from my perspective, and I guess it's also partially because I was old.

1:37:04Game came out when I was like 19. So I was still in my JIT era, if you will, where I was like when YG came out, I'll be the first to say I had just moved to Southern California. I was not listening to a lot of the up-and-coming street music out of L.A. And from my ears to my ears, I was listening to Drill. I was listening to 1017. I didn't really, like, get on board with the YG thing ever. I think he was awesome when he first came out, especially. And, like, he definitely was moving the entire. He was, like, the voice for a second. You feel me? But I'll say this. It's pretty obvious, unbiasedly, that Game is a significantly better rapper.

1:37:46than YG. And performer. And performer. He's a better MC. Yeah, yeah. He performed better. But look at Game's interviews versus YG's interviews. Yeah. Like, look at the viralness of what Game does in life outside. 100%. He just presents. He's more productive. You know what I mean? He's that kind of guy. Game goes on a podcast. He'll talk to you for three hours. He'll regale you with all kinds of crazy tales. Whereas YG... He's laid back. Yeah, what was the viral clip of YG from after this conference? It was him basically saying, like why y 'all talking to me about Drake go ask Drake some shit like you know he's kind of like YG tends to like shut the conversation down more whereas like game builds upon it game is like a real conversationalist that was the biggest difference is that not just the age gap it's the energy difference you know what I mean like they're just completely different kind of artists you know what I mean like they may be from the same section or this and that or whatever and Los Angeles but YG is the laid back cool guy you know what I mean and the way you judge that how do you even judge that you know what I mean because it was so ununiform it was more like a party versus it was like them doing a show together so how is Versus really judged because as of now the way the poll is set up is it's song for song what's a better song so with that being said he makes way more palatable cool music that's enduring and lasted longer.

1:39:09The majority of the strongest game records feature a 50 cent hook. You know what I mean? They literally do. The three top game songs all have 50 hooks on them. I respect your opinion, but also that is hard for me to comprehend because to me, like the games catalog is just so much more familiar. Like, I guess I accepted why do you might like write better hooks? Catch your hooks, sure. Like, okay. But as like a rapper, like when game raps, I'm on the hook. I'm listening. I want to know what this motherfucker got to say. When YG raps, you know, and I like the guy. I know he don't really care for me at this point, but, like, I just am not, I've never, like, heard a YG verse that I was real wowed by.

1:39:49Now, like, songwriting, like, putting the song together, yeah, sure. When people judge verses, it go off the radio hits, though. Well, yeah, hence my initial point of the game has, it is a better rapper. He's a better MC. Is it going off of the songs, the radio hits? Because guess what? no one really expected the locks to watch wash dip set like that true and that and judged by that standard is why i felt like the game whooped yg so much is because when you when you saw that and you realize like damn d block or the locks had like crazy chemistry they've been performing together for all these years they know how to finish each other's bars they know exactly like who's gonna do what on stage watching them together was like watching fucking metallica play together where like they're really doing a performance in unison whereas like with dip set a if you ever seen them live yeah chaos it's not exactly like a well-structured performance typically and they don't hang out together they came together to do this versus a game they link that same day or some shit yeah yeah game like when he's performing to me it's like it's much more powerful and like well put together he's saying a much larger percentage of the words whereas with YG he's kind of like not necessarily rapping as much he's bringing out his homies to rap more it just felt like as a performer I was so impressed by game again like I said the game is clearly a better MC aka live performer however when you look at it like that locks versus dip set wasn't that at Madison Square Garden or like Webster Hall it was at like a major venue it was at Webster Hall it was at Webster Hall at a major event center in New York.

1:41:31That's why that was so much of a factor. The game and YG's live versus was still like a private event. Most people couldn't even get access to it. But we're watching it from a TV, a screen. We are. So we're not there. But there's a difference between several thousand people in the crowd ad-libbing fucking random locks-free styles and reacting to it. And when Jade is talking shit about fucking jewels, people are like, oh, and there's this huge reaction from the crowd. That added a lot to the ambiance that swayed the votes. If that were in a different environment and it was just song for song battle, it would have been a different dynamic.

1:42:12So you know, they look, I'm not taking away anything from the locks, but it was heavily reliant on their chemistry, on their stage persona, on them being cool with each other. That's the same difference. what's the what's the one call it uh gang just a better performer that's right yeah but that but him performing well was less of a factor on the overall result of this because it wasn't in a huge venue it wasn't like some historical shit where everyone's like the size of the venue so wait what's the biggest matter what was the biggest imagery that you took away from the verses what does everybody remember right now my favorite part was pay gaudy up there that was a good moment because he's a known crip and he's up there with all these bloods in the building and i was like That song is catchy.

1:42:54That song stood out in an environment. Do you think he was uncomfortable? Hell no. No, he signed to For Honey. That's why he came out. But K-Boy was out there crip walking. Game brought him out. There's certain politics that make it make sense. I mean, because of Cripping a bit on me and they about to get out. I was going to go, but I was getting dicked around with by La Chat of the 3-6 Mafia. She told me she was pulling up for their interview, kind of bailing me last minute. I was sad. That's a sick interview. I know, right? But as a result, I didn't get to go to the event. Do you think that I would have got packed out if I had gone?

1:43:34Because I was going to go with no security also. Packed out? It would not have been comfortable. Why do you think that? Who do you think would have pressed up on me? The people we don't know. Just mystery ops? Yeah, people we don't know. I mean, that's kind of what I would have been worried about is not the enemy I know, but the enemy that I don't know. Exactly. There might have been some characters in there. But the enemy you claim you know, promise of God, I never heard him say nothing negative about you. YG? Yeah, never. Yeah, I don't think it's the front of his mind. The last time I saw him, I held out my hand to shake his hand.

1:44:10Yeah, but he was on the energy because he seen somebody, he was there, then he wasn't. He thought he was pulling up to confront a real op, that he would be more concerned about. He pulls up, and it's me instead, and he's kind of like, what the fuck? It was crazy, because he's looking around, and he's thinking he's going to see Brick. And he's looking around on some real concerned shit with his homies and shit, and instead it's me. And I'm like, what up, Gizzo? And I go to shake his hand, and he's like, y 'all talk shit about me every day. And I was like, nah. But, you know, obviously I'm thinking in my head, I'm like, well, what can Brick do?

1:44:46because keep in mind bro when I went on Big Facts Podcast in Atlanta they go who's the fakest rapper in LA or fakest rapper they asked Brick that it's just me and Brick sitting there on camera together Brick launches into like a 10 minute thing about how YG the fakest whatever and I'm just sitting there like sheesh I guess I'm on board with this now Brick was in his trolling bag that's the whole bussy run and all that you know what I'm saying and I talked to Brick and this is not disrespect like calling nobody no b-word or nothing but let's just say just my girlfriend and i'm not answering her phone but she had text me something that you bitch assing and knowing i'm gonna text back i think it's a lot of that going on with brick baby he trying to get his attention because they really got history yeah yeah they got like uh don't come to la it's cool he got more songs i don't they like they got history or whatever so i think brick feel like they better than that like nigga i talked to brick on the phone earlier and he's like you know he only got like 10 minutes so i gave him like seven minute rundown of like a lot of shit recently and he's so thankful you know because he loves he loves the drama he loves knowing what's going on but he's locked up so he gets like a slow trickle of information like you know his situation is not anhefe where anhefe seemingly knows like every single video that comes out as it comes out like brick is like not really like that in the know maybe by choice maybe partially because he just don't have as much access you know but he was so hyped to get the fucking rundown on everything thing free break free and free him was the first person who brought me up here i did his no statement show about you were selling wigs were you that was you but that was a part of your episode no it was like the one after me but i did like two or three of his shows that's how fake i am though is that i like fell out with people over like bringing like sponsored product on the podcast without asking me and then brig did a whole wig infomercial and i didn't really like do anything to him you didn't do nothing.

1:46:41She had the girl sitting right there. That's a little favoritism. He earned the right to do it. It was my fault for letting him just go on the podcast and do whatever he wanted. Hey, Rick doing multi-level marketing on No Junker. He's a hustler though. He gonna find a way to make money. Yeah, he's wearing that funny ass hat. It had to be for a reason. Funny ass hat's fire. You think he was making money off that? Because they did sell. He had the little pot. It was like a little flower pot or some shit. If Rick had an outfit on, he was getting paid for it. whatever he had on because I think Brick had the stylist that would just give him clothes to wear which is why it seemed like he had like a never ending closet he did have a stylist I'll say that he did right yeah so he would be rocking some fly designer shit and then you would never see it again people would laugh if they knew who his stylist was well who was it Tony Wilridge no it's a girl cause all this shit going on with Stefan Diggs and his stylist don't say nothing it was Jess it was nice you just cracked yourself up we was making bank no I'm kidding free to break though man free to break not the trick I guess like another reason why YG might not have been in the best spirits at the battle was because he I guess got his spot searched by CHP the same organization that came here trying to talk to me and Munchie, which all of a sudden makes us feel like, oh, okay.

1:48:11Like we don't know what they got, but we know that they are seemingly taking this investigation quite a bit more seriously. And just to dump it all out there. Then after that, we get a leaked testimonial from Draco's former security guard, basically saying that he saw YG as part of the group that approached Draco that night. And then on top of that, we have fans putting together screenshots and basically saying that you can see what YG's wearing in this picture and then what this guy in the video who's running down on Draco is wearing trying to do the connection between those two. So it does feel like there's a lot of people who are trying to make this situation heat up.

1:48:58Munchie, what's the vibe? What's the vibe on the land and the turf? why would he be wearing the same thing three years later and he reached? Well, it's a photo from that night, right? Right. And then, what the hell, Neon Stream or something? I guess, yeah. Neon was back there, was he? He wore the same exact fit three years later. Well, you know, supposedly it's less than a year. Oh, so they're saying that four years later, he might have been wearing the same outfit. Wow, I thought it had to have been the same night. No, I think it was the same shit. I would say that was... It was like two years later, bro.

1:49:40Somebody like YG wearing the same item of clothing four years later, I would say is very unlikely. Then what Coop say, hazel eyes? Do you know what color hazel is? I did look it up on Chad Gpt and it did say that YG has hazel eyes. Mikey's eyes. I think I know hazel eyes, bro. It was the dude behind him that had hazel eyes. I think I know hazel eyes, man. So Coop didn't make the mistake about his eye color? l.a times did yeah that's crazy wow no he said two different people had hazel eyes so did he make a mistake or he said two different people three people with knives he said he saw yg because he met him a lot he just when you know when you met someone a lot like you know that when you put a mask on he can peel his like seeing his scratch or whatever i can stand correctly but i swear to god he said two different people who had hazel eyes two different i'm not i just thought maybe he thought like brown the regular brown's hazel or some g so he kept i don't know so he's alluring that it was yg who did the actual stabbing that is basically uh not the actual stabbing but basically saying that he was part of the group wasn't involved in like i was on the stab once though so yeah because according to flaco's video flaco said he knows who did it he's not the most credible person bro and flaco to be fair is basically accusing somebody else not yg right flaco just bro he's i mean like so if um if it's okay hypothetically if they somehow based on this testimony try to prove that it was that he's involved in like that altercation will he be indicted?

1:51:26Will he be implicated? I say it's a lot of inconsistencies. If you're going off what Kool said and then what Poetic Federal is reporting it's a lot of inconsistencies. Like, you know what I mean? If your boy says somebody tried to take my chain come get you and then you and your security runs back to the trouble. Like, ain't your security supposed to secure? Well, they were claiming that the exits were blocked off, right? No, no, no, no, no. What I heard was to do with the clothing. Dub. Chief and Heavily. Him. Somebody allegedly tried to take his chain and he ran. That's kind of what started it all.

1:52:04Got ganging him and then ganging him, came and ran back to the trouble. That's what I don't get. Why would you ever turn around and go try to face anything like that? Get your ass on stage and do your job. But they were saying that basically they were kind of trapped, that they didn't really have an option. No, that ain't what I'm saying. Honestly, it ain't because of where I stand and who I'm cool with. But no detectives want nobody on the internet doing the things that certain people are doing because it compromises their investigation. It's never good. Because then they didn't know last year in March that Cooke had their disposition with the Live Nation lawsuit.

1:52:42It said what he said. And it's not lining up. So people think they're doing people justice. I mean, I don't know, Ralphie. But I don't think Ralphie feeling what's going on on the internet. Ralphie hasn't said a word. I don't really feel like any of the Sting Team dudes have really said anything like endorsing this investigation or what Flacco's doing or anything like that. I feel like they seem like they are a unified front and not commenting on it or whatever. But I mean, I've been doing some research. And my personal view is that even if YG was wearing a mask and holding a knife in that situation, even if you grant those two things, I don't think that's enough to put murder charges on him.

1:53:27It's just like, if you don't have direct evidence of him swinging a knife or doing something that is way more direct, then I don't think it's happening. I think that probably what they would need to do is they would need to be able to prove that he was involved in planning the attack. I think that is where they would be able to actually put something together. But all of this, I kind of feel like they're interested in it, but I don't think they got what it takes to actually put a charge on them. And the characters, the character of the people saying things also matters as well. Who are these people and what is your history and what kind of person are you?

1:54:12Who are you talking about? The security guard? Yeah, you know what I mean? I will say that in that regard, his security guard Coop is I mean he's been a security guard forever comes from a background dudes do that I mean I feel like he's probably considered like a pretty credible witness but from from my security guard that ran with him yeah he was with him during the whole thing yeah and he's the one who gave the testimony but so you're the security guard that ran with the person you're securing to the violence to the trouble and you're the one saying that you saw this and this and that but you didn't do your job as a security guard and now you're coming up with what you saw and what happened i think like somebody that is a good lawyer is going to eat these cats up like whatever it is they're going to choose like character witnesses it matters real bro this thing bro i'm just going off everything is going on the internet compare and contrast and you sitting at a disposition for live nation and Because, you know, it wasn't secure to people liking.

1:55:20It's cool trying to get paid, too. You the security, bro. You didn't do your job, bro. If somebody ran back to a group to avenge something behind the chain, you already didn't, bro, you supposed to secure him and make sure he's straight. I just heard Tray D said when Def Roe interrupted that award show when Dre and Snoop was up there trying to accept that award, The security got them out the back door. And then, you know, the Eastsiders, they had to stand off with, you know what I'm saying, the gang. That's true. Secure the artists, bro. That's true. But the thing is, like, when you're talking about a live event, right?

1:56:01You got homie security. I just get an all-duty security. I mean, an all-duty police officer. You feel me? Like, like, Def Rowe back in the days. Most people do that. But, okay, in that moment, like, if Draco is concerned about his boy, having somebody try to take his chain, which is what I guess happened with Chief and Heavily. It's like, Draco don't have a full security detail, like a wall of security that's guiding him around. He got one dude who's by his side. And realistically, like your job is not to like demand that the artist or your client moves to the next location that you're supposed to go to.

1:56:38It's really just like, stay on top of this dude. If he's going to go this way, you follow him. You stay as close to him as you can. and in that situation I just I don't think that there was any way that he was going to be able like really control what somebody like Draco was doing and where he was going so I mean that being said you know he's just got his own like idea of what he wants to do I see it all the time where like the security basically goes to like run after the artist to like stay with them because the artist is like damn near trying to ditch the security right because when it comes to artist security uh private personal security i want to know what is uh the the the guidelines at a job description because a security guard at the store it's the observing report you're not even supposed to stop them if they're walking out it's observing report but when it comes to private security and you're securing an artist what is like your your job description because i thought you're supposed to secure him at all costs a hundred percent not try to aid him in a rumble no that that is that is but the thing is this when you're booking security i'm not even speaking on him as an individual i'm just saying like in general when you're booking security for an event of this nature you're doing so with the expectation of what's reasonable in the the scale of what the event is like so hence if there's an event where there's going to be 15 000 people there and it's a specific type of demographic of crowd and this and that like you you should have be allotted x amount of security guards hence with this festival they're like they told draco and his team you're allowed to bring this amount of people he was allotted a spot for uh and one entourage member if it's security breach some of the homies got to kick back and you bring more security well yeah that's the thing so they told him he wasn't allowed to do that and they had strict stipulations on the the type of what they were allowed to have on them and things of that nature now i do agree with your previous point munchie it is wise to hire off-duty cops and things like that in events such as this because they're anyone that has a cdc and a guard car where they're able to actually be whammed up and things like that and it supersedes jurisdiction like the people that can fly with a strap like when i had cassidy do rap battles and he would come in his My thing is, if you allow this amount of people in, well, leave some bros at home and bring an extra security.

1:59:05I would have had all security. None of my friends would have won. Right? Because even when police, when they react to certain crime scenes, they ain't even about to approach the crowd until they get back up. The ratio got to add up. You know what I'm saying? Well, if you have a stipulation put on you or, like, the max amount of people you could have with you is this. it's a fair assumption that you wouldn't even need to have. You wouldn't even need that. Necessity of being looking cool with the homies ain't, it ain't, it's not priority. Yo, safety, right? For sure, safety is priority. So that's what I'm saying.

1:59:41You keep like skipping over that. No, safety should be priority one. I'm just saying like what I'm really speaking of is the, but really what the conversation to me is the negligence of this venue and the negligence of the people that are organizing and running this festival and the potential beyond legal ramifications, the civil lawsuits that are ensuing. I don't know if the security people are involved in that in any capacity or they have a fish to fry in that regard, but it would make sense. You're not wrong. Munchie's not wrong, but we got to take accountability for our mindset and our actions.

2:00:18Jay Hood was on this podcast on one of the Tuesdays and said, isn't it snitching or isn't it wrong for you to have a police officer if you're a street, you know what I mean? I mean, that's another conversation too. That's another, so we just had somebody here that said that they didn't feel comfortable having a police officer as that. And that mentality is not really beneficial to building, moving forward. Well, then you got, and they got reputed blood member, respected joint Munchie B saying he should have had police. Well, you are this big artist and you're going to a festival where you know your ops is going to be there.

2:00:56Draco knew the lineup, you would think. Hey, look. When you become such a celebrity, once you reach a certain celebrity, a certain fame, you got to leave that street mentality of I can't do this because I'm street. It was basically like forcing him to roll with like a small group of people. Right. That's my whole point. So what you said, J.H.E.L.D. or how he felt about shit, ask him. I'll do what the fuck I want to do. Right. So like if I, you know what I'm saying? What's the difference between the off-duty security police officer and the Navy SEAL niggas? You know what I mean? They the same shit to me.

2:01:30Well, yeah, but they're not because Navy SEALs aren't doing criminal investigations. They don't work with criminal investigation organizations in any capacity, gang. They're both police. But Navy SEALs, no, they're not, though. They work with the military. Yeah, but in that capacity, what they're doing, they're not being a Navy SEAL. Okay, yeah, yeah, but they're quote-unquote protecting. Yeah, and they're doing police work. They're mercenaries, essentially. They're private mercenaries. Hey, let's, but see, my mindset go to that because being in the county jail, a lot of them dudes, when they not doing their thing with the Army and shit, when they come out, they be working in the county jail.

2:02:08They be sheriffs and shit. Like, they the same type of people. Like, so, I mean, I don't know. J-Hood probably feel that way, but, nigga, I'm just not about to be trying to buy no drugs in front of the police officer. I feel like that's part of the deal. You like pay the police officer to not say shit when you're buying drugs or if you're going to buy drugs you're like tell him to take a step outside. You got to protect the bag. I'm paying him to have his gun so I don't have to have Pookie and Ray Ray with theirs. The last thing on the cop's mind should be like him buying lean. I'm paying you to shut the fuck up about me buying some lean right now.

2:02:44Well, that shouldn't even be a question. That should just like, that's like should be in a standardized palabra NDA. I shouldn't even need to tell you that. It's like arresting people for having drugs is poor people's shit. Like I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm Mr. Big Moneybags hiring security guard. Leave me alone. Hey man, I don't know. I'm comfortable with myself. I'm a hire. Well, I want to hire. I think that's the right mentality. Like if it's a bag, you protect in a bag. The person that's generating the income that is the economy for this group of people, you should protect it at all costs no matter what i don't give a fuck what it is that you need to hire police officers to protect it and there's people putting threats out on your life and isn't that you need to do the utmost and exhaust all resources to protect that person but okay and let's be real what we're talking about is regardless of the fact that they should be entrusted in that instance the clear negligence is on behalf of the security and organizers and the motherfucking police.

2:03:39Why the police need a poetic flaco video to even make arrests in this shit? Why is that moving the needle all of a sudden? Let's just say YG could come in with? Fuck no. Let's go come in with just three people. Like bro, the magnitude of the artist it matters with that. You know, then when you get more leeway like whatever venues I don't give up if it's BET. So you're saying there's levels to it. So but like why people have to surprise I don't know what kind of agreement they have with Live Nation, but why is it surprising if he's able to get less people in and say game, YG, Snoop Dogg, people that was there.

2:04:20Yeah, bigger artists. I think the point is that if Live Nation demanded that he bring a very small number of people and then he ends up in a situation with someone that they realistically knew that he had issues with, who had a shitload of people with him, and then those people were apparently able to get weapons in and he wasn't able to. Key point. At a certain point, it just starts looking like, damn, y 'all were completely at fault for basically creating this situation. You got to blame the venue and the organizers more than anybody. Let me ask you a question.

2:04:56Because blood's all in one place, it meant they came with this person? I ain't never thought about that until now. You know what I'm saying? that's a good point like does it mean that we all we all came together maybe it was no it does not mean that yeah no no it doesn't mean it but i mean i feel like yeah it's probably like a fairly safe bet regardless this is the same thing let's look at okay uh the the astro world event where multiple people lost their lives that that was a result of there not being proper security in place there was not the proper measures insecurity and things of that nature to ensure the safety of all the people that were going there.

2:05:37No, that was not proper planning and setting up the blueprint of how this shit is set up. Correct. Probably more complicated, but similar idea. But, okay, it's a logistical issue, and there is more than just security. Security is clearly an issue in that regard, but not the only one. There's a lot of other logistical issues. However, there shouldn't have been a scenario where there's multiple factions of people that arrive independently or with a specific artist and all are able to come together and create an unsafe scenario for one of the performers. So, okay, I'll ask you this. So other venues, other venues that you go to, don't some artists come with more people than other artists?

2:06:16Yes, of course. Every single venue, right? Yes, of course. So how is Live Nation any different than any other venue? There's a reasonable expectation of security. They are not different is the case, is the answer. And in fact, they're supposed to be what sets the standard. They're supposed to be what guides the protocol for all live menus and things like that. This might set the standard for shows to come. It has to. They have to apply something. It's changed a lot. This sort of thing is why I used to go backstage at Rolling Loud and be able to get amazing content. I have a memory of 2019 backstage at Rolling Loud.

2:06:50Insane content the whole time. Bouncing around. Everybody's got their own little dressing rooms. They're all surrounding each other. It was the glory days of making content at festivals. I haven't even been to a rolling loud in years, but now instead of letting everybody hang out in the back, it's like they got a separate site. You pop into this little shuttle. They bring you there. You perform. Boop. You go right back to your shit. You're out of there. You barely get to socialize or be around anybody backstage of that shit. And a big part of why is because every year at Rolling Loud, there would be fights.

2:07:22and sometimes the fights would get pretty crazy or there'd be like real deal violence going on and like from Rolling Loud's perspective, every time somebody gets in a fight, it's a possibility that they're getting sued. So they got their insurance companies probably literally like urging them and working with them to say, hey, can we make sure that there's not 50 rappers in one like tiny little area? Because that seems like that is resulting in violence and like, you know, these companies are just getting smarter and smarter about how they'll let people interact with each other. so I mean even the fact that YG and Drago were able to even be in the same area is pretty surprising to me just because from my experience over the years trying to get into those kind of environments that kind of environment doesn't really exist that often very much anymore I'm just starting to hate the internet the internet is a very dangerous place they create narratives and shit and I keep trying to bring up they keep using this thing you know what I'm saying we don't rap beef, I'm just gonna get you when he was talking to Adam and the whole conversation, it wasn't even about Draco.

2:08:26It was about AD and them getting bust on the content of the video shoot. Nothing to do with Draco. Right? People take things in a different... No, they did take a sound bite and just like but it ain't cool because the internet is a dangerous place. Like, and you got people out there that thought of shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because I mean, when I was sitting there across from YG and he said that zero percent of me thought that it was a reference to any like current active beef that he was in and also in addition to that rappers getting on interviews and saying some version of like i don't beef on the internet i get it cracking in real life or i'm not talking about that dude on the internet if i see him it's going to go down like that is one of the most common things that a rapper is going to say on a podcast they say that shit all the time as basically like an explanation of why they're not going to go into depth about some beef that's kind of serious or whatever like that is such a like non-exciting thing for a rapper to say because rappers just always say that shit so i do when i hear people making a big deal out of that i'm like like yg was not talking specifically about that he was talking about how gangster him and his homies are in general and how they don't beef on the internet which in yg's defense you have almost never heard him say a damn thing about Draco on the internet besides that song.

2:09:48You know, YG doesn't really beef on the internet. He's kind of avoided that throughout his career. Draco had been all at the nigga house back when he let the nigga go with this shit. Before I even knew who the fuck Draco was and shit. He never had nothing against the nigga Draco. That's what I'm like. He getting drugged and nigga shit. For real, for real, it's fucked up though. He's getting drugged and people shit, bro. Like, bro. What about the whole mustard fallout? He's a B-top, nigga. Like, bro, I don't, I never care for Nipsey. That's big bro to him. I don't be on him about his relationships and shit.

2:10:21Like, you know what I'm saying? But what about the whole Mustard fallout, though? And that's like, that was why. Non-confrontational. Mustard ain't gonna do shit to no one. But that's the thing, though. That was, at the time, though, that was YG's man, though. That's before they even had. When was that time I heard him on the Mustard beat? Correct. What are you talking about? Probably like 20. Not around then. Well, yeah, like right around then. When? What's the name of the song? I'm not sure of the last song they have together, but that was on the heat. I think I've been on a Mustard meeting so long, probably after that.

2:10:52He introduced RJ, basically, and RJ was also coming out with Mustard at the same time, and YG was working heavily with RJ at the time. That's not around the time of Draco Demage, brother. No, no, no. I know it's not the time. That's what I'm saying. But that's not what I'm saying about the initial fallout with Mustard, though. The dots they trying to connect.

2:11:16I'm not even talking about during that time. I'm talking about the initial fallout that he had with Mustard. It would make sense that there would be some animosity, despite even what wound up happening after the fact and all. But, okay, it takes a big difference to be like, oh, my producer homie wanted to sign you and did sign you for a little bit, or y 'all worked together, he helped work with you on music, versus like 10 years later, people are saying that I wanted to kill you. Obviously, a lot more has to happen for it to be rational to say that. Yeah, and we all know what happened. Obviously, that shit was heated as fuck.

2:11:50It's not exactly like tough to figure out the motive or whatever. Okay, so you interviewing Draco, he told you that he had beef with Mustard? He ever told you that? Because I've never heard Draco in an interview say he had beef with Mustard. I don't think he said he had beef, but he was kind of like dismissive of it. Mustard wanted to sign him and he didn't want to sign with him. Yeah. Okay, but I'm saying beef? Not beef, like they didn't want to clap each other. I never took him as being like mega disrespectful to Mustard. No, but like there was clearly like some tension there in a fallout and then a lot of things.

2:12:20That's what I'm saying about the narrative game. Have anybody ever heard Draco say that or Mustard? But okay then. Draco, wait, too much a lot. But like you hear the point that he's making? I do. It's like the dangers of the internet and the narratives. I do. You know what I'm saying? And spending that shit for your own propaganda. You know what I mean? And people are going to watch it and just believe whatever the fuck a person says, do no research. And that's why I think it's like, those are the, I agree. I think that's a really good point, Munchie. And I agree. And ultimately the only people that really know what's up are the people directly involved.

2:12:51And I'm not a fucking federal agent. So it's not my job to try to connect those dots. I feel what you're saying, but like in a journalistic capacity, I feel like it's irresponsible to not mention shit, even when it involves people that I fuck with on all, you know what I'm saying? Across the board. Yeah. I mean, because that is my perspective on it, too, is that it's like on some level, if they end up catching Draco's killer, if that makes his mama feel good, then I fuck with it. You know, I support that. But there's zero percent of me that makes me want to go track down somebody's killer. Like we're talking about dudes who like chose to live their life in the streets.

2:13:27Right. So I'm not like endorsing the cops getting involved to handle their shit. Like Draco wasn't a tattletale. He wasn't telling us what I'm saying. Yeah. But when she occur with street people, whether they're gangbanger or not, I'm just talking about street people that live like that. I don't be feeling bad for nobody but their parents and their kids. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. Like, even with me, bro, if I get smoked one, I don't know the jumper, bro. Just don't tell my mama because my mama going to tell. Like, but, but. No, for real, my mama ain't about that life. She going to tell, but like, you know, let my pops and bro know.

2:14:00You know what I'm saying? They dribble. So if they choose a life, there's no sympathy? I don't feel bad for like street people that partake in different shit and then they demise cum of that. Like I can't feel bad for a crackhead at overdose. Like nigga you died doing what you love. It's like if we find Lush dead in an alley one day I'll be sad though. Yeah I'll be sad but don't cry for me. You can cry for me but don't lie. It's not my fault. If Lush dies in an alley I don't want to sue the dealer. Yeah I'm not telling who Don't let me try to track the dealer down. Don't track him down. He drove to the dealer.

2:14:38He put out his money. 100%. I feel bad for R.I.P. Celeste Revis. That's the shit that makes me sad. The kids that are innocent victims of horrible... No, hell no. I feel bad for anybody, regardless of the lifestyle they choose. What, that dies from Finn or whatever? Yeah. No, you can feel bad for him, but I'm not on a quest for revenge. Yeah, exactly. And especially with the Draco shit, it's like if if somebody wants to go get revenge sure like that that makes sense but i'm just saying like you're talking about dudes who chose to live life as gangsters in the streets handling their beefs and vendettas a certain way when one of them does like let's not just like run to like hey let's have the cops figure it out for us now if flaco or other youtubers want to make video content about it cool they can do that i personally would not do that with my platform yeah that that And I don't think that Flacco should feel like he's doing what Draco would want.

2:15:33He knows better than that. That's interesting. He's got to know better than that. Go ahead. I just don't want Flacco to be fake and act like you're doing something from a genuine place. And you're not. It's all for your self-gain. You don't give a fuck about none of his family members, kids, parents, none of that shit. You don't care. You know what I'm saying? You don't. I think that's probably fair. Like I think Flacco is chasing the content. He loves being the one to be able to expose some shit. His overall like viewpoint on life does seem to be I'm anti-gangs. I'm anti-street shit. I'm anti-crime.

2:16:13So I do think it's like it makes sense based on the code that he's carved out for himself. Well, there's so many other murders and so many other things that are tragic and traumatic to a lot of families that you're not investigating or doing this. Like his cousin. His cousin was a stepper. Bro, his cousin, Bankroll. I checked out his music, bro. Bankroll Fresh is Flacco's cousin? No, no, no, no, no, no, bro. Stop playing, bro. His name is Bank Money. It's something. They go say it in here. He's from Philly. He's a stepper. His music was good. He got a cold little storyline. I played the news clip and all the shit.

2:16:51Like, why are you not tracking his shit down? That's your cousin. Because he's not as viral as Draco? That's definitely the reason why. Because it's opportunistic. It's the only reason. It's opportunistic and beneficial to your pockets. And I think if his name gets mentioned and if a case gets, this case gets solved, however, and it's because of him, I think he would be over the fucking roof. Yeah, because it's an accolade for him to hang his hat on and say, hey, look, I'm the YouTuber who solved the Draco case. Like, he'll put a banner up behind his shit on the wall. What's the nigga name on the card?

2:17:23Detective Kimball. he right now is saying that was just dude to shut the fuck up. I swear. Bro, they don't like that. Yeah. I'm telling you he's stinky ass think he doing like some service. He's trying to do what Vlad did. You know how Vlad kind of cracked the Tupac case? Maybe he's trying to get that one. To be fair, Vlad interviewed KVD after he already wrote a book. Oh, yeah. And Vlad literally interviewed him. Vlad said he's not giving up his... You feel me? Vlad didn't want to he not giving up his what's this shit called? I think they came to try to they wanted like some raw content or something from him.

2:18:01Man I respect the white boy. I respect Vlad. Man I respect the Jewel. I mean if you even go back with Flacco like when I met him he was doing videos about Dolph's killing. He was getting hella views off that. Take off as well right? He had all the advanced theories about who killed Dolph which I think honestly like ended up being correct. like i think he like correctly predict predicted like who was going to get charged with the draw the doll ship before it became common or before like trapler ross you know kind of once it was all said and done was like putting videos together about it more aggressively but like flaco was always early on that like he's he's put himself out there he's mr private investigator yeah well yeah i mean like he he definitely has he he operates like when you're talking about Flacco is not just one person at this point.

2:18:48You know what I mean? Who else is it? Well, he's like, he has a whole bunch of people investigating and looking things up and sending him links on different forums. So that means you're no longer a civilian, right? You're like an entity. Do you have a team? No, why not? Because now you're proactively getting involved in crime that doesn't have anything to do with you. Oh yeah, for sure. They might kill him. The cops told Flacco that they intercepted somebody sharing his address. Now, it was an old address, but they basically told him that they had evidence that somebody who he had pissed off through his YouTube videos, I don't know, maybe related to the Draco thing, maybe related to something else, but they warned him.

2:19:27Did they try to insinuate that was me on the little bullshit video he did? I don't know if they were insinuating it was you. The timing of him telling me that it kind of made me feel like he was talking about something related to the Draco thing. All I said was, if he is talking about me, when he was paying for pussy, he talking about giving bitches Popeyes he talking about the Popeyes by his house over there on Hoover and Fig where he stayed at back then he talking about you had to go to the hood on Hoover and Fig nah he was living over there he paid$2 ,500 for the box he was hitting Coogee over there hey nigga that's a funny little musty motherfucker I swear to god bro do you think Flaka would be doing these type of videos if he wasn't out of Cali do you think he would be this amped up not at this magnitude not this blazing and boat or whatever.

2:20:15If you want to help the community, go buy some Christmas trees around Christmas time for the kids. From a civilian perspective... Who's a civilian? Start right there. Him. No, he's no longer. Once you pay for pussy, you broke the law. You're not a civilian. Because he bought a hooker? Hell yeah. That ain't legal, nigga. You ever watch Cops? That's like saying because you smoked a blunt, you can't. Yeah, I think that's an excessive perspective, bro. I think once you become a private investigator, you're no longer a civilian. Okay, so what category is that? Okay, but what's the definition? What's a civilian, though?

2:20:53So a civilian would be like you would give the excuse of, yeah, they're supposed to do that. Yeah, they witnessed it. They had nothing to do with it. We don't hold them to any standard. Boom. Now, if you're going out of your way to solve a case that has nothing to do with you and you're investigating and you're asking questions. You're a journalist, yeah. so that takes okay so if you're doing that and let's say you said he's the law right you said Flacco is doing this no I'm saying like the law like you have the cowboys the indians you have the criminal you have the police you have bounty hunters you have this you have lawyers you have these attorney generals you have all those you are in the game and on the chess board so if he's that the definition changed right because really a civilian is all of us anybody without a badge is a civilian well no okay That's by definition.

2:21:39Right. Anybody without a bad. But basing it on, and I don't disagree with him, what Rio said is, if you're a civilian, it's understandable for you to engage in those type of activities, right? What? If you, like, to report on what you think is a crime. Wait, why are people saying that Flacko's YouTube got demonetized? Is that true? I hope so. But if you're a journalist or you're the lie, then isn't that, like, the expectation? I don't know if it's true or not. I'm taking everybody out for drinks after this, if so. everybody y 'all trying to go y 'all trying to go to Sharky's we going to Sharky's that sounds great Flacco fat ass don't even want a bag let's talk about it if it's gone what you drink I don't really drink I'm a weed smoker weed smoker alright 420 in the house we go get it going you ain't gonna get my girl just drunk yeah no I'm pretty sure she likes vodka just give her a little bit of that lush vent a little wine cooler a little lush vent a little razzle dazzle Yeah, just do some fent.

2:22:37You'll be straight. My advice to everyone on earth. So if you're an officer, if you're a police officer, isn't it then your expectation to engage in those activities? So if Flacco is that side of the law, he's doing the right thing. He's not that side of the law. He's not a police officer. He didn't go to the academy. Based on that definition. You guys are thinking, I'm not talking about by law, by this. I'm talking about being able to be green light. Okay. So why doesn't a police officer share their address? Okay. Yeah, because they're a target. They're a target. You have now made yourself a target and your family if that also.

2:23:17So are you in favor of like journalists getting killed in Mexico when they report on like corruption? No, I'm not in favor of it, but I know that it takes place. They have to live with that knowledge. Yeah, but that's the problem from a lot of journalists, especially in Mexico. that's like you're a journalist you don't got money for like gated compound style housing you know and so you need to understand that that you're in don't be foolishly in this world not thinking that this is how people are looking at you that's why I motherfucking moved to North Dakota so we can report on deaths out here it's like he has the right to cover it from a journalistic aspect as does anybody but is it dangerous and can something happen definitely but we choose what we choose in life well Jess bro That's what I'm saying.

2:24:01It's a difference between a podcaster, content creator, and a journalist. He's not a journalist. A journalist, they collect the facts and report it. He make... What's the word? So you're saying he's making up stuff? He makes up stuff. Sensationalize. He make up shit or what he think is going on. Are you guys all on the same page about what Flacco does is wrong in your guys' eyes? I want to hear your guys' perspective. It's dangerous. What he does, where he's going is dangerous. I think it's escalating. It's like it's being more and more. Like I feel like he's doing a little bit more and more. And he's, I looked at it before like, like he's out here just doing some silly shit.

2:24:45You know what I mean? Like he's just on some silly shit. Now I'm looking at it like more serious because it's like allegations and pointing fingers and saying things as if they are fact. Right. You know, like, and that also affects people's lives. And the way they have to move. Now people are being questioned by friends, by this. And you're doing this shit, and I know it's being done purposely. You know the effects of what you're doing, and you're getting a little bit beside yourself. And I just would say be careful how you're moving. I think, too, him coming with the red rags and doing all that whoop whoop, and that's, like, so crazy to me.

2:25:19I've never seen that before. Well, he's making it clear at this point that he doesn't have any intentions are really interacting with like the urban community in general like this is safe like i am worried like i said when i was talking about the ronnie doe stuff i i worry about him but that's we just said live by the gun die by the gun live by the sword die by the sword that and that's the game that you play is so i also like munchie set that nigga off the other day you know what i mean he did he did so so okay as far as like him doing what he's doing i actually don't to answer your question just i don't think he's inherently wrong for it i think his methods are wrong and i don't wrong is not the best word for me like do i agree with them would i do i co-sign them do i think it's the highest of moral integrity if it's not wrong and if it's not morally intact why you why you i wouldn't do it wrong i personally wouldn't because i feel like when you talk about like because him don't compare him to the news please don't well him be okay so like he he's like a sensationalized journalist then if anything then he is in the same category as a shade rumor or Wendy Williams.

2:26:29I'm disappointed in you. Why are you calling that man a journalist and you know what a journalist is and what a journalist means? Okay so like if he's not so at worst if we're not going to give him the respect of calling him a journalist we can say that he operates in a journalistic capacity. But I get lush in this day and age of content. No I'm not saying much he's wrong. I'm not going to even like because I have a high degree of respect. Journalism is part of my family as well. My dad before he was in film was a journalist. Much respect to journalists. They do a lot of much needed work. I'm not saying that.

2:27:06What's somebody that's in your family that's around 35 years old that you love, right? Okay. Would you want them doing what Flacco is doing right now? No. Why? But that doesn't make it wrong. It just means it's dangerous. Exactly, because it's burnt as fuck. and I don't think my fucking nieces who are in their late 20s are like equipped for beef with the B team you know what I'm saying like yeah it's a fucking dangerous field it's cold game yeah no for shit show or whatever I'm just saying like whatever it is I don't think they shouldn't insert themselves in situations that could upset people that are in the streets that could get them potentially harmed or like talked to in any capacity by anyone.

2:27:53Crit, Blood, Essay, Hoover, whatever. That's not a B-team thing. No, it's not a B-team thing. People that come from like that walk a lot, like people don't respect that. I done been around square bitches that discussed it with Flacco, like that I didn't even like that. And there's that as well, like just being a, I don't know what type of journalism you want to call it, but because I do believe Flacco is a journalist and operating in that capacity when you're talking about obscure street or even high profile like rapper adjacent like murders and controversies it's not exactly high brow journalism do you feel the same way about what jalice covers and and what she does it's not that on a different level the content is not that different but the execution is very different because flaco like does a lot more research and speaks a lot more definitively and he's like they're both attempting to capitalize off of views or capitalize with people and modest misfortune, pain, losses pain, losses, misfortune yes, no, they are both doing that now, I would say another like Jaleese is often times adjacent to or fanning the flames of said controversies this is a more recent arc for Flacco, him embarking in that path but he also does so with like a lot more high production value, so it gives it a different accent, I just don't like liars am I wrong?

2:29:15just spitting narratives man I mean that's your opinion Am I wrong though? No you're not wrong You're not wrong You're not wrong But that's your opinion You can't be wrong with your opinion But does anyone disagree with that? With what? He said he does it out He said a bunch of bushes No I said Flacco Flacco's more professional than Jalice That's how come They do the same type of content Her content's about as bottom of the barrel as you can get She just literally does some rumors That this is just some shit I heard I'm just going to say it over and over. There'll be more substance to it. And also like, but that's pretty much comparing them to like one of the most lowbrow journalists that you could possibly think of.

2:29:54But that was the whole thing though. But it's not, but as far as the content they're covering that different as far as what they're talking about, it might be the manner in which they're going about it is very different. I will even say that. I feel like travel or Ross's content, much love, but like Ross's content, I would be more likely to take at face value because, I feel like Ross is, I've never really watched one of Ross's clips where it felt like he was doing propaganda. And sometimes with Flacco's shit, I'm like, oh, you just don't like this guy. And so you're making him sound as bad as possible because you just don't like him.

2:30:32And it's funny, or it's like, maybe you believe what you're saying, but I'm not really taking it as 100 % your real opinion a lot of times. Because Ross doesn't use the adjectives, like Chirac Savage. and like, you know, like... He's not emotional about it. He's a little more empathetic. Yes, yes. And I feel like Ross is trying to push himself in the direction of being like, taking more serious as a real journalist because he's actually going to the courthouse, doing more original reporting. Yeah. Things are like, Flago's attitude is more like, I'm gonna be as inflammatory as I want to be and I'm gonna live all the way out here and y 'all ain't gonna be able to figure out where I'm at.

2:31:07Y 'all ain't gonna do shit. And that's the, he's like the entertainment side of it, right? It is more entertainment, yeah. The Nick Fuentes and Hunter Biden. You like that? That was good. That's Channel 5? Yeah. Now, that guy. The best journalist of our time on a YouTuber level, yes. Yeah, Andrew. Andrew's amazing. Yeah, he is great. I looked him up after that. I've seen him before. Oh, man. You got to watch his whole catalog. It's so good. And it kind of is like, we used to look at Vice, right? Yeah, he replaced Vice. Oh, okay. He replaced Vice. So now Vice wants to be part of his movement so much that they're like teaming up with him and giving him like their resources.

2:31:47And they're like when he just did content in Palestine and or Israel, like they went and like teamed up with him to like give him access to their resources. Because Vice knows that he basically like recreated what made them dope 10 years ago. Well, they also like declared they like declare bankruptcy or something of that nature recently. They've had a lot of crazy shit. Yeah, I mean, they're still making stuff, but it feels like they're just massively struggling at this point. So Channel 5 is self-funded through Patreon. And so he's doing all this shit on his own. He's got lawsuits through a documentary.

2:32:20Independent. And they try to cancel that boy. They try to cancel him, and he's out here doing good work, though. Like, he's doing really good work, and that's the difference between journalism. And I think that's where Trap Lord Ross might be trying to go. But there is like another version of what Andrew Callahan does where he actually does the reporting. He goes out in the field and says, hey, there's some crazy shit going on. I'm going there. There's some big personalities in the culture. I'm bringing them together. And he spends all his time on the road and shit, too. Like he don't even really got like a spot like where he stays at.

2:32:51And, you know, he could do what Fago does, which is like he could post up in front of the computer 10 hours a day and just make these little videos doing like micro updates about cases that people are following. I do look at Andrew's content as being like kind of the most elevated content of really like anybody that I've been gears with over the years. Like my content, we sit on, we make a lot of content. We sit there. It's raw. What Andrew puts together are these like unbelievably polished, perfect pieces of content that like I did CritMag. I got a million views. He did CritMag. I got 7 million views because he took it and put it together in a way that was just more palatable to a bigger audience.

2:33:33because he's actually doing life pieces he's he went to baby snaps alley and like ran a fade with crit mac like you know or fake fade or whatever like that was easy right well that the whole point is he's actually doing the real life experience you look at a platform like no jumper we're talking in a in a panel about people what people like him are doing and we're reacting to that then we feed all these other channels that wind up reacting to us plus we have our own little interpersonal things that wind up going on subsequently but if it wasn't for him none of this shit would exist like that's like the phase one he's documenting life in his rawest form yeah like if in a lot of ways it's almost like it would be the most interesting thing to see no jumper disappear just to see what would happen to all the channels that exist solely to make content about what we do.

2:34:26That would be so crazy. I wonder what would happen. Because I think it would motivate a lot of people and cause them to start making their own content more. Because so many of the people that in 2021 were starting podcasts are now just reactors. But yeah, also I feel like that vacuum that it would create would make it so there'd be multiple, like you said, new people coming to the top. But realistically, Figmunity would be in a great position to take over the entire coast. It's kind of like when Kai Sanat kind of like stepped away and we got to see like Deem and AB and certain streamers like come to the forefront.

2:35:02You know what I'm saying? Like it would be interesting to see that. It would be interesting. Go ahead, Munchmup. No, no, go ahead. I was going to say it would be interesting to see that, but as everybody, if NoJumper stopped, everybody would have to, not everybody, but people that survive off of NoJumper content would have to pivot, right? Yeah. Well, obviously. And that's what Trap Lord Ross, I think, is doing. And that's what I think Nick Fuentes is starting to, like, on a different scale, they're starting to realize, like, we have to pivot out of this because guess what? I didn't even realize how powerful of a position I'm in.

2:35:35Like, I don't think Nick Fuentes knew that it was going to be this big when he got canceled. And then on all these other platforms still blowing up with his Nazi type shit that he was talking about. He still blew up with Nazi shit. And now he's realizing, oh, fuck, I can use these legacy media places and shit. And I think at a certain point, Nick Fuentes felt like, well, I've done so much fucked up shit. I've said so much offensive shit. I've made so many crazy ass jokes that I will never have a future in politics. Right. And I think now zooming out and looking at the landscape and seeing how, you know, Graham Plattner was almost the candidate to be governor of Maine and shit like that.

2:36:14Right. Or senator was, I forget. But he had controversies out of the ass. Obviously, Trump got a million controversies. Nobody gives a fuck. Spencer Pratt. Yeah, Spencer Pratt got God knows what's going on with him. It does seem, and with Nick Fuentes, it's like, we know what is true about Trump is that he is so popular that it doesn't matter if he's got all these crazy controversies that would sink any normal candidate. And I feel like Nick Fuentes is the same way, where it's like, if he moderates himself a little bit, like when you watch that whole episode, he didn't really say almost anything that like really jumps out at you as like oh that was racist as fuck like on the tucker carlson episode he did there's like one moment where he just says like basically our country is being destroyed and ruled by organized jury so like at that moment if you're a normal person you're kind of like oh shit right this guy is a total fucking anti-subite and like he's got all this hateful shit to say he didn't really say anything like that on that that Hunter Biden conversation and that really made me feel like and the world is just so much more like into his shit like he was so early on just saying fuck Israel like he's now he can speak about it from such a authentic place but he's so committed to that new position against Hunter Biden that even though that new position he's taking Hunter Biden got to get a few points off on him because he was holding back like because he wasn't being so full Nick Fuentes Hunter Biden was able to get more points off.

2:37:43But the fact that Nick Fuentes could be like, fuck it, I'll let that land. Go ahead. Because I see the value of what I'm doing here. I also felt like Nick Fuentes felt like he had to take it easy on Hunter Biden because Nick Fuentes is such an experienced debater. And Hunter Biden, like, this is the first time he ever argued with somebody on camera. Hunter Biden is clearly a super intelligent dude. Yeah, I love him. He's great. Love the guy. And people kind of give him a put crazy jackets on him based on his. Yeah. And lush. I want you to take a long, hard look at Hunter Biden and say, wow, this is a guy who was inhaling crack for years and years and years of his life, twirling pook, if you will.

2:38:28And at one point he turned it off and now he's having a redemption arc and feels like, you know, people are really into him and love hearing what he has to say. All I'm saying is maybe if you stop twirling Pook, then people will take you a little more serious. Hey, but somehow yet I still have a voice to say what the fuck I want to say. Nobody's denying you have a voice or just saying that your voice could be better? Yeah, no, I feel it. Like, yeah, Shouse 100, fool, we're going to go on a spiritual retreat and take ayahuasca. You never twirled Pook with him? Yet. The night is young. Okay. Meet him and Jess West, actually, later tonight.

2:39:03And I'm not agreeing with Nick Fuentes' positions or anything, but I see when somebody makes an intelligent decision like, oh, this is beneficial for me. I see Stephen A. Smith doing the same shit. Definitely. I see the pivots and the debates that these guys are doing because they're trying to position themselves in a better place. You know what I mean? Like even Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden's doing the same thing too. And I only said that to say like on the smaller scale, everybody's going to have to do the same thing. The whole thing though is that if Nick Fuentes really decides that he wants to take his career in politics seriously, and he, I would say, already seems like he has a giant army of people that are probably going to vote for him.

2:39:44It's like if he activates that and he proves to the GOP that he is electable or has real motion behind him, I think they've already proven with Trump that if somebody is really popular, as much as they might be ideologically opposed to him, they are not going to stand in that candidate's way. They're going to embrace them. They'll probably try to like neuter some of their more offensive positions. But ultimately, like, I would not be at all surprised to see Nick Funtz as being like a major political candidate 10 years from now, as much as the Ben Shapiros are going to fight him to the death. But I think that he would probably like surpass, he's already surpassed them.

2:40:27Wait, do you think they'll look past homosexuality? You think he's gay? I think he's admitted that he's a bit like butt. He hasn't had sex yet. He's an incel. Maybe. Well, you know who's never had sex is EDP. Yeah, he's never had sex. Oh, and you know what? I never got a chance to wrap the EDP thing around back to why we brought it up in the first place. Because remember we were talking about AI and then we talked about EDP? So there's like an AI girlfriend thing. We've probably all seen ads for these sort of things. But he's got one. And in the documentary, they say, hey, will you show us the conversation conversation that you've been having with your ai girlfriend and in a shocking moment of candor edp is kind of like oh no i don't want to show you that because you know i'd be telling the ai to act like a little teenage girl and shit so i was just gonna say that oh my god obviously weird little kid shit that's probably why he's like yeah i tell i tell it to act like it's 15 or 16 i'm thinking like nah bro you saw it it's like Philadelphia wait yo that's fucked how's the AI going to comply with that?

2:41:32That's like the first thing if I'm designing an AI girlfriend that I say is like, you will not act like a little kid. You're not going to allow yourself to be infantilized. No, he probably just talked to it like he was like, you want some candy? Hey, little girl. Dude, he... That's weird. And that's why he actually said when he showed up to meet the 13-year-old or whatever, and it was actually the Pedal Hunters, he said I was just trying to get a cupcake. And I never knew, but the reason why was because the decoy that they were posing as offered to bring cupcakes. And so they actually made cupcakes.

2:42:05And that's why he said I was looking for a cupcake because I never really understood that. And that's why they watching this shit like on How to Catch a Predator. The Predators actually watch the show. So when they get caught, they'll be like, I've seen this before. I know what this is. I'm calling. I know what this is. But that shows how sick they are. Why are you watching the show? They know and they still do it. all the signs because that little decoy be out in the back. You want some cookies? And you see Summer then come in and be like, is there anyone back there? I've seen the show. Is there anyone?

2:42:39They'll be like, no, no, come in. Because they're like low-key aware of what's going on, but then at the same time, they just like are so horny that they just can't control themselves. And they don't even got to go in the house to be in trouble. They already got them, right? When they show up, it's over. but they just do that for the entertainment kind of part of it right one thing i realized is that they make that shit seem easier than it actually probably is because i encourage people to watch my interview with a cc unit where he talks about what it's like to do it and he's like describing them like working for hours and hours and hours texting these motherfuckers trying to get them to pull up don't you kind of just assume that there's like a million of these fuckers he's talking about driving eight hours to go get one and shit like that but then what i heard the new method is is that like you pay a chatter and they get a bouncy you give them 200 bucks whenever they get a pedophile to show up to your stream smart isn't that crazy so like they're if you're really good at it you can make tons of money and if you suck at it you're like a clipper yeah you're like that's crazy literally do you think ai is gonna take that position over you probably could right now AI's taking over everything.

2:43:50That's actually a great idea, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, where they're putting out all this information, are trying to entrap these... Now, that's responsible AI for that ass. These PDFs need to get life, bro. They need a death death. No, for real, bro. I got a whole bunch of shit death. And then Budstone niggas and completely miss them, man. They get 20-something years. So, nigga, fuck that. You trying to get some kitty coochie, go to jail. I mean, get him out of bed. And you get played with. What about if you fuck or do any kind of sexual shit with somebody under, and I'm going to just pick a random number.

2:44:23I'm not saying we need to stay at this number, but let's say 12. I just feel like there should be probably a different category for that. When you hear about a guy fucking with a 10-year-old or an 8-year-old, it's just like, I just feel like this is a different thing. It should be judged by different standards much, much more harshly. Well, actually it is. when you go on Megan's Law, they evaluate you and you level this, level this, level that. And they say if you're likely to strike again, they evaluate you. You know what I'm saying? Well, Munchie, you know what I heard a pedophile say on a show before?

2:44:55He said, once the bitch bleeds, it's on. Ah. Which we can get our menstrual cycle at nine. We can get it, whatever. And that was kind of his mentality. Oh, she bleed, don't she? Yeah, but should it be... The other question is the women, these women teachers that's doing it with these young boys, I feel like they should be... I love that shit. I be wishing. Are you be wishing your teacher? No, for real. No, no, no. Anytime I used to watch the news and these teachers get caught fucking the students, right? Yeah. It always be the white kids that told on the teacher, bro. If that was a black kid and I'm fucking my teacher.

2:45:28They're going to run a train on her. Wouldn't nobody ever know. All the teachers be hot, too. They're going to get all their friends to come over. They go, stop fucking my teacher. Bro, I'm good. Yeah, I'm not dying to change the laws to lock up the teachers. I'm not a victim. Okay. But at the same time, I don't know. I mean, it is super fucked up. Imagine somebody like if you found out a 37-year-old lady was fucking your 12-year-old son. I feel like you would be mad like as if it was your 12-year-old daughter, right? 12 is a minute. Whatever. Can we talk about this for a little bit? Even though I'm low-key, we kind of hyped for him.

2:46:00What if it was a male teacher fucking yoga? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, hell no. I think in the African-American culture that it is more acceptable if you have sex with an older woman at a younger age. a lot of black men that i have talked to have all told me they lost their virginity at 12 from an older woman i hear that so much and i'm like no you low-key got raped because the world is like modernizing but let's not forget that like 20 years ago be uh not 20 maybe 15 or whatever i forget but either way birdman put out a fucking documentary with little wayne where he talked about making little wayne loses virginity to a random hoe backstage like that was not that long You're talking about like a big deal music mogul named Birdman who freely talked about that shit.

2:46:46Well, and then that's probably the reason why you can't get that documentary. And then in that same one, Lil Wayne was like, and then Lil Twist, you feel me? And I said, suck Lil Twist, Lil Dick. And even Boosie, like recently in recent years, Boosie had to find out like, oh, I can't just talk about letting my 14 year old son fuck a stripper. like you know like granted Boosie and Birdman are not representative of the whole black community but clearly there's like some sense that they had throughout their lives that this shit was fine. I've heard white men say the same thing though like poor white men like that grew up in the same like their dads are the same way men are fucking nasty that's just men in general.

2:47:25It's double standards for everything. It's not a racial thing at all. I used to get hit on when I was like 14, 13 walking down the street with my friends i got hit on more at that age by older men driving in the car than like in my 20s or whatever like pervertedly hit on like i know we said there's a million times on here but like i think a lot of us have the memory of like being 13 14 15 and seeing older dudes like pick the girls up from school and shit like when i think about that it's so crazy that like i'm 12 and like the hot girl in my grade when I'm 12, the girl that I wish would give me the time of day is getting picked up by a 16, 17 year old and that the teachers don't have any concern for that.

2:48:10That they're not even looking at who's picking you up. I know they got a lot going on but that's kind of wild. Hey, shout out to my girlfriend's sophomore year for leaving me for a 25 year old dude that picked her up in a Mercedes. What? You feel me? I used to be waiting outside the high school in your cars. I own this very platform. on one of these news days because when I was 15 my girlfriends were 21 and they said her name and they go like oh Munchie what's up with so and so they said her name in the chat that's crazy but when you a boy it's different though bro that's what I'm saying you can be more loose with your son than your female your female daughter so you telling me you had a son he loses virginity at 12, 13 you gonna dap him up but if it's a daughter you gonna be If my son is slapping ass, you're like, that's right, son, versus your daughter.

2:49:00If she gets slapped on the ass, you want to kill him. Oh, sliding. It's just, huh? We sliding. Oh, yeah. But look, that might not be a healthy thing because if we - I'm not forcing him. But the thing is, so we tell the boy that, say, if whoever, whatever Birdman did, he had Wayne sleep with a girl where there was no emotional attachment and there's no value to this woman. now you attaching sex to not being in a relationship or building a family or building community is just about fucking and so that's the dangers of teaching these little boys just to look at women as just uh objects objects and so we we perpetuate that shit in our community by treating young now we're treating the young girl that's in our class like an object instead of like doing the right thing taking the steps to be with her or do this and it's almost it's a way lighter scale than what they do in these Middle Eastern countries and where they have their young sons just do whatever they can to these women to show their sons that women ain't shit.

2:50:04Look, we could pay for the bombest woman to come from America and look at what she lets you do to her. And so they do that as an initiation to show young boys that look at these American women, they ain't shit. You should never value them. And so what it does is sets up a outlook our perspective on how to treat women but okay here's my question is like I feel like the reason a big reason why we look at our parents as kind of like full of shit like as you enter your teenage years is because your parents start trying to teach you to live your life in a way that you know is not representative of how they're living and I guess like at a certain point all of us our kids are gonna probably realize like oh you were running around and doing drugs and drinking and fucking and all this shit and now you're trying to tell me that it's like the end of the fucking earth if i do any of that shit all i'm saying is that there there is a like there's a lot of value to like keeping it real with your kid, I think, because that develops trust.

2:51:13But then at the same time, obviously, there's a right and a wrong way for, you know, a 15 year old to be living their life. And even if they know that you were getting wasted at their age or whatever, it's like, it is fair for you to like, want them to live a different way. But when you start like telling your kids stuff about sex, that is clearly not really aligned with how you're living your life. I feel like that's when you start to build up these walls between you and your kid where your kid's not going to want to be honest with you he's not going to want to tell you what he's actually got going on in his life because he kind of knows that you're going to come with this lame-ass unk perspective and try to convince them that they're wrong and i feel like i i am you know realistically my daughter will be 50 in 10 years i am not ready to handle what is to come but but you're going to be truthful are you going to be honest i'm going to have to navigate these things as it goes You don't care every week.

2:52:07Fuck it. What do you mean? I'm saying, yeah. It's like there's going to be a reckoning at some point. But in black homes, we say don't do as I do as I say. Well, I see it with dudes all the time where they'll tell me like, yo, my dad told me over and over and over not to gangbang, not to be from the hood, blah, blah, blah. And then one day the homies put me on. And then like I realized that their dad just like once somebody else put them on, their dad was all right. Like, all right, you from the hood now. and like that's when they really start telling them how shit really works yeah my dad my dad didn't want me to get any rain but like you big blood and all that little shit your parents want you to do better than they did always yeah they're there to protect you whether they made the mistakes or not i think every parent generational curse yeah every parent fucks their kid up a little bit yeah but you know any of my friends who like parents micromanage them tiger parents they turned out to be such sluts because they couldn't talk to their parent and when they got that little ounce of freedom teen pregnancy it was over we have an emergency call coming in from the local jail.

2:53:02Hello?

2:53:06Brick baby. Yo, yo. I know I'm an hour late, but we not a dollar short, are we? Hey, we in this bitch, bro. We got Rios here. We got Munchie B. We got Lush. And we got your girl, former stylist, I guess, Jess West. Brick! Let's go. Oh, yeah. I love you, brother. Oh, yeah. What'd you say? I said she was my stylist, Jess. We were selling wigs, remember? Yeah, she was selling wigs, right? No, yeah, I know what's going on. I know exactly who it is. What's going on with the home team? What's up, Rick? We just swapping war stories, you know, talking about everything that's going on, man. Not our war stories.

2:53:49It's hot out here in the L.A. streets right there, man. Goddamn, goddamn. Hey, man. It's cracking, it's bracking, it's everything. Yeah, yeah. So where do we start? Are y 'all talking about YG, man? Because I feel like that's the... I don't want to talk about it like that, but I feel like that's the hardest thing going. And David... Oh, shit. David Trout going crazy. It's all type of shit going crazy. Man, listen. Hey, YG, your friend, bro. Yeah, that's my brother. That's what I was just trying to tell... That's my brother. That's what I was trying to tell them. and then just a little bit disappointment that the communication ain't what you feel it should be or whatever.

2:54:38Yeah, but that's your friend. And you know, David, he bound to jail banging. He ain't able to roll. Come on, man. Off the rip. I said it on all. If y 'all pay attention to when we were talking about it before, I always ask my brother. You know what I'm saying? The communication would have been better. I don't think that certain shit would have transpired. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. But David, he know what a spread tastes like now. Wait, what'd you say? David eating spread now. He on a spread fire. He found it out now. Uh, my mama. You hear me? Yeah. The craziest thing I... I want to spread bad.

2:55:17Yo, the craziest headline I saw about David is that... So, he was 17. The girl hits him up. She says she's 16. She's actually 11. That's just... Wow. Like, what is that? I'm an 11-year-old. I have a 16-year-old buddy. I mean yeah he's probably playing dumb if you really think about it I mean was he actually 17? I guess he was 17 at the time yeah yeah he was damn yeah but it's like okay yeah girl I don't even got period past yet baby I don't know I mean 11 bro like I don't know if that's even and it's like I've never seen an 11 year old with that much freedom that could pull up to somebody's house exactly from Lake Elsinore yeah well so get on here We got a little bit of lore about that.

2:56:05Lush, you want to fill it in? Yeah, so supposedly, what up, Brick? So supposedly, my guy. So supposedly this full Spody face got family that has property out there and live on the same cul-de-sac where the Revis family resided at. And he actually remembers her when she was a young, super young child. Spody knew her? Yeah. What? Yes, bro. That's insane. She carried herself like she mature, but go ahead. Yeah. Well, he finished because I got a crazy story, too. I told Adam earlier. No, go ahead. No, I finished. I mean, like, so essentially he's seen, like, the dynamic. So, and he's seen that there was, like, you know, young girls that were outside or whatever in that family, whatever he has said.

2:56:53You could look back on the No Jumper episode where he spoke on it. But the fact is, based on the nature of her family and the footage that came out and all that, it's not super surprising that she was outside at a precociously young age unfortunately yes you're right it is disgusting so it's somebody right here that's from lake elsinore area right and he picks up he got the scrap metal business so he was picking up scrap metal on our block and they they frequent the area and he's like it was selling dark right there so he was asking like isn't this the block like where the little girl was at and they were saying that the mom used to She used to come back with money all the time.

2:57:33So the mom wasn't tripping. Every time that she would leave, they would pick her up two blocks down. And then she would come back. And the mom would have, like, a lot of money for dope and fresh clothes on and all that. Because it's a tweaker zone where she lived at. So that's crazy. That's crazy. And the parents. Well, he was basically, like, at some point, he starts giving her money to, like, give to her parents. And then especially at a certain point, if it's like, oh, we got all this leverage on you because we could basically turn you into the cops. That's when I feel like they probably really started amping up the payments, if that really is true.

2:58:06And then that's when David decided this is untenable. I got to kill her, you know, which is insane. But keep it real. Her mannerism is a little bit mature, bro. Like that video where she's kind of like going off on her neighbors. Yeah, it was. She was already. She was already using. You know, I mean, you know, the nigga used to it. I done seen a 12-year-old have to take care of him near the house because their mom was on dope and all that when we was kids. I've witnessed it before, so, I mean, I know it could happen. Right, but Munchie, just because that shit exists don't mean that it's right or okay.

2:58:42Man, you telling me, fool? Yeah, you know that. I'm telling you her mannerisms. First of all, I'm trying to figure out how she get from Lake Elsinore to even meet this dude and why she's so far away from home. bought her a ticket for the first the first time they hung out right but if the parents is getting paid shouldn't they be on the hook for some shit like that's some negligent that's the argument but the parent had to start getting paid at some point uh in the beginning why is she so far away from home but your parents can just like fill out a form that basically like authorizes you to be in a relationship with somebody who's an adult but a crackhead mom ain't thinking about that That's what R.

2:59:18Kelly was doing. I mean, that age gap sounds insane, like the 11 and 17 thing, but maybe as she got older, maybe the parents did authorize it or something. Hey, Brick, don't say that, bro. Damn, dad's going to come for you, bro. Oh, my goodness. No, damn, dad should be tweaking, bro. You bring that shit up, he go, all right. He don't need that Licky Nicky diss track in his life. Hey, I'm just saying, hey, age ain't nothing but a number, man. You know what I'm saying? That's a pretty Ricky number, man. That's what R. Kelly wrote for her. R. Kelly wrote a song talking about AJ doesn't better never sing this baby straight up unfortunately facts and the thing is whether or not she is able to sign off and or give emancipation because that's what happened with Aaliyah her parents literally signed off guardianship to R.

3:00:07Kelly he was her legal guardian yeah I think she was like 15 or 16 at that point that's not what to get married correct They let her marry Which in turn Made him her guardian But he was fucking with her before that Yeah yeah yeah The point is Celeste's Mama never even went through that paperwork No she was just getting money for the dope She was getting paid under the table You feel me to make it To make them compliant Which got her daughter killed But you still got a nasty individual and David to keep on pursuing this. I mean, y 'all start flying out of town, you had to know the age and you got to book the ticket to go.

3:00:50You can't just put the whole thing on the period. Yeah, I ain't... He ain't gonna fuck that predicament. Somebody told me they thought they was gonna drop the case. They didn't have enough evidence. No way. Nah, nah, nah. But it said some bullshit like that in the beginning. As soon as that Tesla information came in, it was over. Yeah, nah, he finna get treated. Like, there's no way. It's like such a high-profile case. Did the camera on the Tesla that was still active? Nah, I'm pretty sure he turned that shit off. Well, he wasn't even like the thing is that they're not trying to say that he's actually the person that disposes of the remains.

3:01:30They're saying he had people acting on him. I'm saying a manager or somebody dropped the car off. Right. So it's like he... A lot of managers parking down the street. Stupid. I ain't saying the perfect way to do a crime and then like that's all because that's a little girl but like the manager weird too but so he's on he's gonna face trial but are they gonna like also put like accessory cases on the manager and shit like that or they might oh my god oh my god what's that oh my god are you hearing about it who's that with pixel T Really? I think you're frosty. Oh my God, my fit is fantastic. I like to hold my gun with him and put your T on the foot.

3:02:15Yeah, but that's where I feel like he got that. You feel me? Damn. Shit's crazy, man. Hey, we got a free Aunt Hefe, bro. Yeah, free Aunt Hefe, man. He tripping on my boy, Trap, man. Hey, listen. Don't trip on Trap, man. We are all gonna beat this shit, bro. We coming home, man. Hey, no, but you know what I forgot, though, when we was debating that last time? Trap, one of the ones that put out the bullshit video with the burrito stand. Yeah, yeah, for sure. He's probably a little something about that. I forgot about that, though. Oh, he dropped the video? Oh, I see. See, yeah, but before everybody knew what happened with Anjefe's case, there was another story in which basically he got into an argument with an op at a taco stand, and then he went to the car and got a gun and killed the dude.

3:03:07And then it came out that that was like a completely different situation about somebody else. And it definitely had like 1090, Flacco and Ross all did videos about it, so they all looked kind of crazy for a day, yeah. Yeah, damn. Yeah, I heard Flacco ain't letting up. He's just keeping the gas on the gas. Hell no. Foot on necks, bro. A little mustier. Hell no. He's keeping it as North Dakota as you can get. Ain't no bitch sleeping with him, bro. I said, man, Flacco ain't never coming back around here, man. He don't give a damn. Yeah, nah. He's content over. This call is from a federal prison. He told us a long time ago that it was content over everything, man.

3:03:49Yeah, he lived that shit. Everybody's face. And I think that's why a lot of us cut him so much grace. Who? Like, whoa. No, man, she said who? Everyone besides you in this table. Bro, the only one in this room think that shit straight is you and Adam, bro. No, I'm thinking it straight. No. Thinking it straight and on brand for him is two different things. I don't think he wrong, but he's doing the right thing. No, I wouldn't do it for myself, but it makes sense for him. And I'm not justifying it. I mean, I respect him doing it as a YouTuber and as a civilian who apparently is concerned about crime.

3:04:30I wouldn't do it. I don't want to be like getting anybody who's engaged in this shit locked up. But if you got a tip that ain't out there, bro, you supposed to not do that, bro. You know what I'm saying? Right. Especially around people that you know, that you actually shook hands with before. You know what I mean? It's like, come on, bro. You got to have some type of heart. Exactly. There it is. That dude is a piece of shit, man. No, for real, bro. And Lush is like, man, he's awesome. I am not saying he's fucking awesome, bro. I'm just saying I understand for him. You fall up under the softsiders and they don't work with that shit.

3:05:09They watching this. Hey, hey, Lush, you ain't going to do that with no softs out there. Yeah, no, no, no. One foul out. Yeah, let's go to the county. Yo, but then Lush be talking about dudes who go on a 50-50 yard like, oh, I couldn't talk to him anymore if he's a Sereno who went 50-50. But then meanwhile, he'll give Flacco every pass in the book. I think because Flacco ain't some high-powered member, though. That's the thing. And I'm not giving him a pass. I'm just saying I understand it for him. Like Jess West. What's Jess West got to do with the 50-50 yard? What do you say to you as a non-affiliant, you not going on the 50-50 yard, Les?

3:05:40Oh, no, hell no. Les going. Les going. Let's go on to the 50-50 yard, Les. I'm going to tell you that. Hey, Brick. 33%. When they tell you that your 10 years is only three years, your ass is going to go. Yeah, that sounds a little better. You're right. What do I say? What do I say? You're going to be smoking dope in no time. You're going to be smoking dope. Only three years? No, but hey, I don't want to be around all those weirdos, bro. Man, you be all weirdos. That's all they do about you. No, they don't. I'm like an upstanding citizen to those guys. I don't have sex charges. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:06:14Hey, yo, that boom, baby, man. No jumper to call this podcast in the world. I'll be back in a couple weeks, y 'all. Shout out to the whole team. I'm gone. I need you on the pod in like two, three weeks. And if you're not here, then I'm suing the city. I'm suing the feds. Sticks in the chat. Sticks in the chat. FDF. Tell FTP to turn it to FDF, man. What's that? Fuck the... Oh, okay. Ah, damn. Right when you're about to say. Shout out Brick. Shout out to Brick, man. That's a trick. Hey, you said that Adam the best podcaster. I think that's the best podcaster. He's pretty fucking cool. I think I'm fucking breaking Adam over, bro.

3:06:56I'm better than I'm a prod off. I heard Gary Owens. What's my boy? The white comedian? Gary Owens. Help me out, bro. I've been off the corner. You know Gary Owens yesterday. Moose Man. Yeah. Moose Man, he went on Apollo like, Munchy, too. Yeah, I'm fucking him over. I'm like, okay, Moose Man be talking this shit. He be popping it. Yeah, he be popping fireworks. That's what you're supposed to do. He popping fireworks. Actually, though, Munchie, I think he had me, you, Adam, and T-Rail as the only S, and Brick, I think, were the only S tier podcasters. Hey, where's this at? You're going to send me the link.

3:07:33It was like a month ago. Yeah. You got to check it out. Honestly, I'm not going to - Me and you did one like a year ago. Well, yeah, and that was really, and it's so funny because that was really you doing it and me just being another voice for you to bounce off of, essentially. Yeah. I kind of took the lead. I think it's bouncing off you. Pause. Yes, did he? Pause. How the fuck did he get the name Moose Man? Did he ever act on that? He a big boy. He fucked a moose. Is that right? That's what this word around him. He fucked a moose. Moose is crazy. He kind of like a moose though. It fit him good.

3:08:11Yeah. You like a Campbell? You like a moose? Campbell Man. Hey, who's the Westmont Scheme guy? Oh, that's my dog. So he's beefing with Lucky from Hoodstocks. Is he? I think he's a rapper. He is a rapper. He's a very, very good rapper. He's with OTR, I guess. Yeah, he's from South Central. But yo, I think Lucky went to his house and spray banned his house. Let's watch this clip. Yo, cool on Instagram. Oh, music, never mind. I'll turn the music off. Just turn the music off. Yeah, yeah. Man, niggas playing games. It's like somebody tagged his house up, I guess, is what Lucky's trying to say. Is that his name?

3:08:47so Westmount Scheme went to his house and tagged Lucky shit up so he wrote well I don't think he actually tagged it but he posted a video with like graffiti on his house I guess and wrote wonder if Westside Scheme was yelling double S when he got ran out his own house in South Central by taggers I've been sitting on this shit I was trying to be the bigger man but he gonna get all the smoke now the summer is over with hoodstocks drop your location dummy make sure you got your little suit and do rag on when i pull up i don't really understand what they're beating about wait wait wait what's my area there's a lot of tiger crews bro but they could run you out of your house i would just live in a house with tags on it but no but is that him saying that but that kind of sound like the way am i reading it wrong or is he saying that that's not him saying he did this he's no no he was no no yeah he was saying that it was like somebody else did it okay the thing is that he ran him they ran him out his house is what he's i mean Man, we don't know that.

3:09:46But I don't know why. Is Lucky just beefing with everybody with OTR now? I mean, I'm sure there's been... Me knowing Scheme, I know that he's pretty outspoken and goes back and forth. Okay. And is kind of willing to engage in that. Not that he seeks it out, but he's willing to. And Lucky, kind of the same thing. So this don't surprise me. What happened when Lucky paid for the pussy and ran out on a bill? Remember? I remember the controversy is pretty cool so his bitch came and he wasn't trying to get caught yeah he had to run out the house he left K7 sitting there feeling stupid that's what I heard K7 didn't get his bread I don't know if he a real P you're supposed to get paid first right isn't it like a performance you get a deposit up front it was a deposit yeah you get the back end but the people buying pussy on Fig are not the kind of people that are going to deliver on the back end.

3:10:46They bust another in pain. They're going to choose to fight you. You'll get your bread, but see, they be a regular pull up to the house. You become a regular or something, but evidently, she door dashed the pussy, right? You know, and he his bitch came home. He couldn't finish the job. He had her hitting fences like Olympics. She was on the window like boys in the hood. He's supposed to sell that shit, bro. he's hit her on the zelle pay for the purchase I gotta do a little infomercial final one if you're already shopping for THC products you might as well get more choices and better deals everything420.com has one of the biggest online selections with flowers vapes, edibles, concentrates glass, accessories and more all in one place and if you're feeling adventurous do not sleep on the mystery boxes just choose a category and you'll get a surprise box that's usually worth way more than what you paid and if you are 21 or older head on over to everything420.com use code no jumper for 15 off again that's everything420.com promo code no jumper i'm about to read the donations i'm going to bring up one last topic and then i'm gonna read the donations munchie what would have happened if wag 100 went to the versus battle.

3:12:09You would've got fucked up. By who? The blood. As a unified front? Because the game's blood's got to be against that, right? Nah, the game never helped him. You see, when the 60s got up on him, game was before him, he didn't give a fuck. Right? Right? Right? He said right, right? Man, you would've did better than that nigga. But isn't he his manager? Hell no, he been not his manager. I mean, he still handles some amount of stuff. They're still in contact. That's not his manager. And let's be real. Wack not a manager. He a professional. Do you think that the general consensus, though, people kind of perceive him to be that?

3:12:54That's what he put out there. Games say otherwise. He basically has a few different types of managers. And Wack, I don't think it's his formal official manager. He's like a liaison. I mean, he brings deals to him. And if he executes those deals and he gets a percentage of those deals or whatever, that's a liaison. But it's, it's not like it's consistent, but also it's like, if you're game, you go on tour and then you have like a road manager, which is like a different guy than Wack. Right. Your music and shit, you know, you're, you're signed to a label or distributor. They help you with all that.

3:13:30You don't really need Wack like that. Maybe you could help with some like promotional campaign shit. or like when you drop an album, like what do you do to promote it maybe? I don't know, but like, I don't think he has a day-to-day role. Hey, listen, bro. The man's a liar, bro. He told you he didn't come because they told Apple, Apple be feed up security. No, Wack actually, he kind of mentioned YG like speaking to security about him or speaking to Apple about him, but like Wack sent me a full screen recording of his text with Game about his car not working and that being the reason why he was going to go, but then didn't go because his car was running.

3:14:11Apparently he wanted to drive a really cool car. He be fucking over the text messages and switching names and the text messages and texting himself with two phones, bro. I don't know. Bro, I could shout. Or look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look. Not what I'm here, right? Because you be doing your own stream, call him like Munchie said. You was just on 71st in Crenshaw and you got your shivery fixed. Ain't nothing wrong with that shit. Oh, shit. And you know I'm not lying because the shop, they just recently moved it. You was just there getting the shit fixed, and you was in that red rental.

3:14:46Like, bro, you was in the 60s on Crenshaw's 71st, getting your shit fixed. There was nothing wrong with it. Cash, you're lying. It was up to par. I don't know. Okay? Ask him. I will. I will. This is some content for you, bro. I will. Call this nigga and be like, Hey, Munchie said you was in the 60s on Crenshaw in the early 70s. You was getting your shit fixed. And this is recent and nothing's wrong with it. I will, especially if everybody likes this video right now. Like that shit. Share that shit. Get them likes up so I can be aggressive with the way. Hey, shout out to Dragon Eye Jay Reed in the No Jumper Alley or something, I think is what that says.

3:15:22He said he paid$2 ,500 for the box. Munchie B-Boy. That's the funniest fucking soundbite of all time. $2 ,500 for the box. He paid$2 ,500 for the box. It's a good deal.

3:15:36Sorry, Blacko, that shit's hilarious. 2 ,500. Actually, no. The worst deal. 2 ,500 for a girl, she better be like a top of the line OnlyFans. Bro, I better be fucking. Hold on. A whole year. No, no. Honestly, I better be fucking Ruby Rose for like three hours straight. She's off a perk. Ruby Rose is 20 bands. I need perk sex with Ruby Rose for 20. I'm saying. A girl who looks just like her. I'm just saying I need to fuck Ruby Rose For 2500 bucks Bro I just interviewed Brekkie Hill On members only Yeah she's so hot If you are into white women In their early 20s with big boobs I mean she's about as immaculate as it gets No can I say that like No she's redefining the genre The genre of what Of what he just said like white bitches You feel me like with big titties and all that I feel like it was a lost art I feel like that peaked in the early 2000s No, they're back with like clavicular.

3:16:32And I even, oh, bro, I kind of got her to admit to it. We didn't get to fully dive into it. But I was like, I was like, you know, I feel like girls like you used to hang out with rappers. And now y 'all hang out with like streamers and like fucking, you know, athletes and dudes like that. She's like, oh, yeah. Like she kind of like acknowledged that she ain't really like, like normal white girls aren't like just hanging out with rappers, like the way that they used to. Like she kind of came clean about it. And I was like, that's kind of revealing. All the rappers is losing their bitches to athletes though.

3:17:00And streamers. That's kind of not new, though. Like, shit, what's Future been crying about for the past fucking 11 years? Seer. Information. Lush has got information. We're going to keep this thing going. Okay. Justice said, Lush, next time anyone argues with you about how Juice WRLD was one of the greatest artists, if not the greatest, tell they asked to go listen to Death Race for Love and then inform them that 90 % of the album was freestyled. I agree. Juice Wraud is probably the most talented artist that I personally have ever spent time on. And like I said, hold on. That was Monday show. I've been said that and nobody argued with me because they know that if I'm saying - One person did.

3:17:40Who? Doughboy. Okay. Nobody argued with me. Is it really fair to call Doughboy a person? I know. Wait, he freestyled 90 % of his album? Bro, he freestyles the majority of anything he's ever rapped that anyone's ever heard. But even if he didn't, his freestyles are better than people's written words and what i said is that he is probably the greatest i mean it's not like he freestyled every song he would get in there and he would he would like routinely go off the top but i i mean you know he was spending less time plotting on his bars than like anybody he was doing hove type shit like he was like it was pretty crazy but what i said i i didn't have enough yeah you weren't disputing what i said like that's what i'm saying despite that point a reference i was just saying based on my knowledge of culture and and artistry juice world is by far one of the goats and is probably would be if he was still alive the biggest star in the world right now out of anybody dope boy is crazy serious dope boy also said the game's better than tupac he also said it's just like like dope boy has so many bad opinions that are like just not even close to like opinions that I would consider acceptable for any adult to have.

3:18:49Yo, what about Dogway saying he was depressed all weekend because he realized that he's probably never going to get married. I've seen that. That's sad. He told me that he lost his last girl to a rapper and it really affected him. We've got to find out. I need to know. It's probably Biz Marquis.

3:19:10That's so fucking funny. That's so fucking funny. so he got blow fry took his bitch that's fucked up wait so what's why is he acting like losing his girl to a rapper I asked him me and Kevin told we had a whole conversation he said he's so depressed about it he doesn't trust a lot of people industry people now after that and I said well you win the game with celebrities who else is she gonna go with was it a rapper that he was working with yes oh that's why I was at a Christian rapper McCray took his bitch right McCray took his bitch that's what happened you cracked the code blessed ability yeah but I was surprised Nice to Adam.

3:19:46Go out there and get something. Don't be crying over not getting married. And his whole thing was like, oh, I don't want to settle. And I'm like, bro, when you're 46 and you're morbidly obese, you should settle morbidly obese. You ever see a person who loses their spouse in their 70s and they get with somebody. And let's be real. The person that they get with, the new partner that they are spending time with, this like a lot of times you'll kind of realize like when you are peeping it like this person is not like head over heels romantically in love with this new party they found necessarily in the same way that they might have expected to be in their 20s or 30s if they fell in love at that point at that point when you're 76 it's like bro we only got so much time left there's not a lot of us there's not a lot of people in this dating pool and like i can help you like have a good life and Like you could help me have a good life.

3:20:42And it's like, it's more about like just having somebody to spend your time with at all. A companion. I just feel like dope boy needs to accept that, bro, you're not a spring chicken. Like you need to actually like literally like what I told him is any woman who is willing to have sex with you or really even give you the time of day, you should be trying to like settle down with her. There's a medal of honor. Yes. That's what I'm saying. Like she's missing out on some shit that everybody else is keenly aware of. Get a sugar baby. Okay. Here's the thing. I love a dope boy. but he's actually like what?

3:21:12I'm tired of you. I want you to say something mean. Say something mean for a change. I'm not a mean fucking person, bro. And you're not going to force me to be a mean person. Sorry. I love Doughboy, but if he told me that it was a sunny day, I'm putting on a motherfucking Montclair parka. I don't trust any of his opinions when it comes to shit. This dude thinks that he was going to beat up Spodyface. That's what he thought that. And he thought he was going to win in the typewriter. He hasn't cracked our low scores yet. Yeah. He's kind of delusional. But shout out to the old boy, man. No, I like the guy, too.

3:21:50But he's absolutely out of his fucking mind. He has terrible checks, my team, bro. He needs a reality check. I don't think he should get a sugar baby because, like, he would just be better off. Like, bro, that's one of the best things in the EDP documentary is that he gets a girlfriend. and it is this random ass fat lady and she won't even fuck him and then he ends up just splitting with her anyway. It's crazy. I'm going to be so mad at you for telling all this shit. I know, we got the whole documentary. You just feel so much about this shit. I'm telling you that this video is going to be the documentary of the year.

3:22:24Nobody's going to be able to talk about anything else for a couple of days. It's going to be nuts. I can't wait to see this. I am in it very, very briefly and I can't wait for everybody to see my appearance. It's pretty funny. Oh my goodness. Hold on, bro. You beat up the pedo in the sheet? No, I would like to explain what it is because I did probably a half hour. He didn't end up using the clip of me that I thought that he was going to use because the main thing that he was going to get me to do was to like, Adam, you're a porn star. React to his dick pics because at some point his dick pics that he sent to a little girl got exposed.

3:22:58Oh my God. They didn't actually use that clip. They used another clip. You didn't look at him, right? Yeah, you looked. No, I did, yeah. They just didn't show that part. No, because it was like the smallest thing you've ever seen. He basically wanted me to confirm this is like the craziest micropenis ever. So is that the sickness though? That's what is leading to this fucking insecurity, sick disease shit. A small cock? Like the micro shit? Yeah, that'll do it. I mean, honestly, the other day I heard a professional describing basically why guys will get a fetish where they want to fuck animals.

3:23:33and the way he basically explained it was to say that like with an animal, there's no judgment. Like they prefer you have a small day. an animal is not capable of like judging you. Right? Yeah. A monkey will. You got a small ass dick, homie. You got a small ass. You got a micro, homie. A monkey will, an elephant will, a whale will. A monkey will turn around and slap you. but whales got 12 foot long cocks when they're fully erect monkeys are smart i say all that just to say that like i feel like probably the root of edp's sickness is the fact that his whole life he's felt so judged by women any rational woman is gonna shit on him and basically just want nothing to do with him and then meanwhile he's able to like actually get some kind of like positive attention from these 14, 15 year olds, whatever that he's talking to.

3:24:33With him in particular, it really felt like his pedophilia was a result of his absolute failure throughout his entire life with women. Did he have victims before? Did he just get caught and he had victims before? The interesting thing about the whole thing is that he seemingly does not have any actual victims. like there's never a moment in the documentary where there's proof that he actually did something with someone underage and i say that just because it's kind of notable that there's like multiple examples of him getting caught trying to but no actual example of him getting caught doing it now but that doesn't mean he didn't break the law because he was sending dick pictures to the law so i don't know what state is he getting caught in but in california he would have been to do us breaking down the intricacies of um is it nurture versus nature what caused him to be this way is one thing that's like the kind of the same thing is like watching the jeffrey domber documentary like oh like his dad was cool with him torturing animals so one day he decided to fucking murder 15 people and chop their bodies up and eat them yeah we shouldn't try to like conflate like understanding him with justifying it yeah justifying it or not judging him correct Because clearly, and I think the documentary did a good job walking that tightrope because it's like they really go out of their way to make it clear that like the entire reason why we're reporting on this guy is because we want him to be locked up.

3:26:02Right. Which is why it's kind of amazing that he sat and did this documentary anyway. And they even speak to a lawyer at one point who says he should stop participating in this documentary immediately. Right. I'm sure. Yeah. But what? Okay. So. Don't you feel like if you're actually a good person Like whatever that is defined by If you have a moral compass Right Don't you feel like if you're responsible For terrible things of that nature And you've hurt people like that You should want yourself to be removed from society If you actually have They don't think nothing wrong with what he's doing Because he's sick Yeah bro you won't believe the way he justifies it When he's like Don't say it the way he's describing the girls like coming for him, which is very hard to believe, but like basically saying that the girls are like sending him content and he's trying to like keep them at bay and stuff and it's like he just can't stop these little girls from wanting to fuck him like he's invented 10 billion different reasons in his head to...

3:27:06Because all the grown ass women have the same problem, right? She's in the Pelican Bay, bro. When you meet crazy with crazy, it ends up not being crazy like a crazy person out there and you match they're crazy, they shut it down, they're not really crazy. You know what I mean? Like, they have common sense all of a sudden. Don't you think if we put, like, televised death penalties for this shit, it would deter a lot of motherfuckers from acting like they sick? Probably not, because everybody already knows that you're gonna go to jail for a long time. But if it was like, tie this person up to two horses and let it just run in different ways.

3:27:37If it was more cruel? Yeah. I don't know. Goodness. I also feel like it might somehow be worse for society as a whole. I agree. I feel like that's a net negative because then that creates a martyrdom system and then a lot of them yeah we don't want people hung from trees or tied at horses because that's not giving a visual that kind of stuff that's like giving a visual and a brutality that somehow there's like okay so violence and disgusting behavior begats more of that but it's somehow now I could see them using that to their advantage and you know what's crazy and I hate to do this that's what we're talking about doing to like PDFs and that's what they used to do to innocent slaves well just off gp okay and we're saying that it's too brutal great point murder murder is like a worse crime than rape like it's punished with much more time in jail yes it's like if you have to grade crimes like you know being a murderer is like worse than being a rapist so it's like if we're gonna do that for that then like what would we have to do for killers and like we all know hella killers.

3:28:44We get to vote on it. Like throw it in from a helicopter. So there's a difference between like a crime of passion and like something that you plot out. Well yeah but then there's people who do murders that are not crimes of passion. Correct. Exactly. But the thing with the what we're talking about with these PDFs doing is that they damage people. Yeah. Mentally and spiritually and those people sometimes end up damaging more people. Yeah. it's a vicious cycle so what they do is so disgusting and it affects multiple people and like to rob a child of their innocence I feel like is the greatest crime but indirectly like if you kill somebody and their kid grows up without them as a dad it's kind of like you killed that guy and you know I don't know I mean your dad getting killed at a young age I'm not gonna say it's as bad as getting raped but it's pretty fucking bad so it's crimes have all kinds of effects outside of the direct crime.

3:29:45All right, I got to race through these donations a little bit more. Paper Chaser said, Lush, the type of guy to be in the strip club and ask the strippers, why do you work here? Let me take you out of here for good. Fucking up the marquee. Yeah, sorry. Lush will say anything to any girl who will talk to him. Oh yeah, that's what I do. Put your clothes on. I mean, your buddy is not your model. Nah, I ain't trying to slash him, man. I believe in the she's for the streets policy yeah you might need to enforce it a little bit stronger I'm not putting cuffs on any of them Benji Ochoa just said justice99 is right Juice Roll was the best freestyler and Death Rates for Love was all great songs hear me calling robbery flaws and sins feeling desire rider all straight fire I totally you're not wrong brother and then Benji Ochoa said shout out to OTB Donnie Rotten Roll and Dragonite Crip Shout out to all the NoJumper chat gangsters out there.

3:30:41We appreciate y 'all. TTMe said, what is the customer service number? I want to speak to a manager. I forget what we were talking about. I remember thinking that that was funny at the time that he sent it. I think when he was calling, it sounded like the little Disneyland music. Yeah, that was funny. VaporChaser said, Adam, you owe me$20 from the Adam and Wax show. If you're not going to read Super Chats on that show, you need to announce it because we send our hard-earned money for you to act like you don't see it. It's fucked up. Dude, I am sorry. There has been a couple podcasts where they just didn't have the screen on and I forgot we were live and I didn't read the donos.

3:31:14Hey, hold on. Do you know that nigga owe Kyle$100 for two years? Who? What? Flacco was broke. He was owing that nigga$100 for two years. Who? Kyle? Kyle. For real? I'm like, Kyle, you're supposed to need that fade, bro. But he said that Kyle's his man's name. That's some bullshit. Flacco owe me some I mean, I don't want to be like racist or nothing, but don't you feel like usually followed by a racist thing. I mean, but like Flacco from Africa, like, I feel like, you know, he always just trying to... They get over all this. You know, I'm like, I don't want to say it like that, but it kind of feel like people who come from Africa are like kind of trying to get over on people.

3:31:51I would say people from Africa are like hustlers. They be hustling, trying to... And they'll do some shit that like an American wouldn't do. People from third world countries be hustling. Did he pay you less? No, he did not pay me, sir. See? See, that's... Man, fuck that. So what happened to GOU? I mean, per my understanding for the parameters of the bet, a Riddick. Damn. He has a different take on the situation. I don't let that thing. That fake-ass dashboard. I'm going to get that Riddick for you. Benji Ocho, and I'm going to institute a weirdo. We're not going to talk about this particular topic just because we do not have time.

3:32:29But Chunky Barbie is on the freeway right now. She is on the way. Mayday, mayday. get the gas mask ready because she got people. Are you going to run that? No, no, she need about four bus transfers to get here. She is not on the freeway, so simmer down. Now she's going to borrow some dude's car. It'll be good. She's going to borrow a car. My two of my girlfriends fighting is crazy work. I do love that. Nah, that's Jay, who's the girl. Dragonite Jap said, no other Jew under my pimpin ever ruled. Oh, that's no jumper. I like that. No other Jew under my pimpin ever rule. Maybe I'm going to change Jew because I feel like that's a little divisive.

3:33:10No other J-Cat? Yeah, no other J-Cat under my pimpin ever. That's better. I like J-Cat better than Jew. C-Rose the one said, call whack on Piru. I'm not going to do that, but thank you for the tip. T-T-Me said, Jess Leak. He's comparing you to Jalice. I don't think that's a super fair comparison. I like it. Black Jesus said Daredevil have you looked at federal indictment USA versus Dempsey Spears case number blah blah blah do you think Hoetic Flacco will snitch on Dr. Umar and Spears or do the time blood wait he called him Daredevil I thought he was dissing Munchie but now I think he's trying to like turn Munchie up he didn't call him Daredevil no I said I ain't go a Daredevil thing on my thing yeah Daredevil is fucking he likes that shit no somebody else put that up Daredevil's a great he's one of the coldest fucking that's like coldest blind dude he's fictional he's a cold character he's hard as fuck he gonna tell for sure oh shit tell on three and go free gotta tell always tell uh East Aid Finest said stink team going outside identifying somebody by their eyes as well that case ain't got no weight they run out on bro to die and now snitching to gang that wasn't a stink team that did that that's a hired security guard yeah brother so I don't know like how conflicted he was about giving that testimony because obviously if he like really just wanted to get it out, he could have gone and hollered at the cops like long before.

3:34:38Even Munchy said like, I doubt that those fools wanted that shit out there like that. You feel me? We ain't seen any of them co-signing this. I think they all know that would be a bad look. Shit. All right. Ben Jugga94 said, get Jess lame ass off of here. Listen to the chat. Get off her dick. I love you guys. Get off her dick. We need all of them cold Jess reviews in the chat. We're going crazy in there. Not the chat, but the comments. Once we're done, y 'all got to leave your Jess reviews. Yes. With your star rating as well. Benji Ochoa said, heck not. Lush blamed Mickey for talking on Discord.

3:35:13Mikey, I think, made him clean the shit in the restroom, and now we snitch it on Mikey, give him a pay raise. He did clean the shit in the restroom. Hey, they didn't see me and Jess's photo shoot from earlier, though. Yeah, you do that? We did like that 80s style photo shoot. You guys do a Phoenix flexing cover? It is pretty Like the Sears old school one when you're both on the ground And you're like this Dragonettes Tuna said Low key can't wait for the modern Version of you lied to me lush His main character syndrome needs to be studied ASAP Oh yeah you can't wait till I fuck your bitch Damn that was Rick Ross I fucked your bitch And with the dinosaur ribbon With a dinosaur nugget Cutty Jew said Yo, where's J-Hood?

3:36:00On Hood, on Gangsters, on Grove, on Southside, on Norte, homie. We're still trying things as far as the Tuesday cast. J-Hood will be on Friday, so do not fear.

3:36:15County said, Adam, did you get that fake Essentials hoodie from Lush's Plug? He got his own design on there, stupid-ass boy. Somebody else gave it to me, to be totally honest. They gave me the fake Essentials hoodie. so that was actually my first essentials hitting but it's fake you know T-Rell like been living off being early on essentials like his whole life he always thought this shit was so cool to be like gallery department down back in the day oh yeah Foles never heard of fucking fear of god before that remember he had them weird pants with like the Levi's logo at the bottom not but like I'm not gonna lie his shorty was like helping him he wasn't even like he even said like she dresses me we gotta put him with Chris Blake Griffith so T-Rell is fashion forward he didn't want to be back when he had bread I think a little bit he was a fashionable person he started like the most important fashion brand of the modern era I mean the last kings the most black power brand of all time really for the culture and the movement so that alone puts him in the fashion he used to say that remember he used to say that to Blasi he was like offended at the idea that Blasi was viewed as a better designer than him.

3:37:25Oh man, perish the thought. That's crazy, bro. What the fuck have you designed since then? They're both great, by the way. TT Me said, this is like having to hang out with your friends' friends and you can't wait for them to leave. Who is the friends' friends and who are the friends? Yeah. Yeah. I would love to know. Mechanic Drew. Yo, we gotta step up, man. We gonna come in here looking like Kanye with some wild shirts, like long, big shirts and shit. We gonna look like Lil Pump in that Kanye video. I'll become dressed like the way Chapo was when he was here earlier. I'm going to have the Balenci boots on like Gunnar.

3:37:59That's our next goal. They're going to sign me to Opium once they see my new drip. Get a sponsorship. Mechanic Drew said, hey, cuz, if y 'all ever do the predator poacher, go after Cyrax. Kuh is a deviant demon. Good seeing Munchie back on the platform. Lush seems happy now. Who's Cyrax? That's like an underground rapper from back in the day, but I can't remember who it was. but I feel like I used to know who that was I'll have to look into him I feel like I'll see you bro next time I try to find some new predators to be fans of I guess I'll go do the research on that could we pull that off though?

3:38:36being petal hunters? yeah I'll send a couple 15 year olds we gotta just order them here and then have like a big like you're locked in and you can't get out do a stream get like a hundred to show up at once What if he got a squad we get the whipping niggas out Josh gets white jawed I'm gonna be pissed C-Mac versus 100 PDFs He has to fight his way out He fights 55 PDFs There's gonna be one of them that's like a big ass Cali muscle looking dude The final boss That's a video game I'd play Yeah yeah we gotta find him Yo doesn't that sound like a person who would be viral In like the kick age like Pedo final boss a guy who just goes around he's like hella tough next week's will be Dragonite Pedal Dragonite PDF that's fucking hilarious yeah that's coming that's definitely coming it's weird how the Dragonites kind of like buy cred by just making a Dragonite name like you feel like you already know who it is because you've replied to so many other Dragonites and they kind of blend together after a while Dragonites got ranked It'll be like, I've seen Dragonite MS-13 dropout.

3:39:52That's crazy.

3:39:56See, now it's so hard to get a laugh with those because we've seen so many of them. I'm not allowed. I took one of the edibles. I'm fucked. That's why I'm trying to get through this real quick. Arm 1977 said, when is the intervention of Lush? It seems every show bro is getting a bit more manic and feels like a slow crisis building. The weird confidence feels like cope. news kind of concerning at points yesterday yeah we're all we're all really concerned are you fucked up are you janky you're being janky no i think i'm the most fucked up i've ever been in my life no by a significant margin lush keeps talking about no 50 50 yards or against snitching but how did he testify in a courtroom against the guy that made him wear a shock collar well that's called a civil case and i was trying to get racky on us you stupid little boy you just called a civil case i'll never do that i never took so much freedom from them all i did was get rakianas out of fucking billionaire who was sexually harassing a bitch and if you think that's some jcat shit look in the mirror the cracked one that you fucking snort shards off of homie damn he ethered you uh 2500 for the box has been a member for three months he said munchie don't get off spody's bumper it was hilarious hearing you clown him yesterday They both got a few off.

3:41:07Munchie definitely went stupid. I heard it was a conciliatory tone. It was great. Y 'all were like cool, but like teasing each other. Munchie got the W, but Spodey had a few. But you guys were on live with each other or something? Nah, I was on the nose. He caught him. Oh, shit. He put him in a check bag and, you know, called Sharif off a minute. He said, sorry, you don't have to get on his butt. Yeah, Munchie was rapid fire. Give me a beer to get. Oh, you went in on Doughboy, too. No, yeah, Munchie was MVP, but he did have Spodey did call you Milhouse. No, I called him Milhouse. Oh, he called him Milhouse.

3:41:40What did he have? He had one, though. Big ass glasses, nigga, fuck you talking about? Yeah, no, he's Milhouse. You going for the other side? I think a plasma screen. He had one that was fucking everywhere. Milhouse was ether, I'm not gonna lie. Spodey looks cute with his glasses on. Oh, shit. I like him with them on. That nigga gonna hug you by accident. He's gonna be like, you hella close with those, though. He's gonna be like, nigga, it's all air. See if it gets you. You think Spody gets man-girls? He's a handsome guy. Spody be getting pussy. Tall, dark, and handsome. He be putting them kiki fits together, though.

3:42:14He be showing up on Instagram. What is that considered? Fucking big ski style shit. He be showing up with them big ski fits on the gram, bro. He gonna have like an Ugg sweatsuit. He be having mad denim and shit on. Yeah, you're going to have like a Canadian tuxedo. Yeah, you got like accessories on. Spoty got people's, man. I love Spoty. Spoty show up in some like glittery denim and shit. Glittery. Glittery. He'll have like a glittery denim jacket. Chris don't wear glitter. That's crazy. No, he literally did a video where he had glittery pants on the other day. That's what I'm saying, bro. He has some sequins, but that's like his style right now.

3:42:51Bro, you don't know what I'm talking about? There's one he, like a little fresh video he posted the other day. We got to peep this real quick. okay glitter yeah some skinny little glitter jeans on the skinny glitter okay

3:43:10oh he does have the canadian with the yuttas with the double-soled yuttas i had to switch my style up a little bit man let me know what i think my sister been on me she talking about i'm over here to be dazzled and be jeweled i told her she's just a hater you know You know what I'm saying? Go ahead and congratulate you, man. I'm one of the best that ever did this, man. You see it, man? I'm a rock star tip, man. I have to take it to the East Coast. You know what I'm saying? Even though the West Coast is the best coast. So I'm talking about people from the East Coast, man. The Thames on summertime LA.

3:43:44You feel me? Just a different vibe. You can't say he dazzled. I see. You got a wallet chain, bro? He on his like, this is like some vamp life shit. Yeah, OK, brother. He got like styled by Jim Jones. He'm on that vamp life. Opium, Spody. I mean it's just I'm not like on him but that's he's trying to reinvent himself yeah he's dripping man dripping with diamonds I've been seeing people with bedazzled shit on them rhinestones and shit with their hats or something like they be having to bedazzle hats like let's go oh wow he dazzles those little jewels be cutting up my legs I don't like when the guys be wearing that Spurdy Face pull up on you you might give you give you a little razzle dazzle give me a little razzle dazzle do you think that do you think that Yeah, Aunt Hefe got locked up, and so Spody Face felt like he could grab the opportunity to be the freshest in the city.

3:44:34Yeah, he was like, you know what? Best dress. I'm up for the crown. Fresh dress, like a million bucks. Like 40 million bucks. JR62 Dew said, how did Lush not catch YG's DL story? He made that song Tiffany, and then you go back to his bar from I don't give a fuck, and you remind me of a bitch named Tiffany. You a brother with bitch ways. You remind me of a bitch named Tiffany. Oh, my God, bro. It just clicked in my head. Oh, and then that was the song about the trans. You an N-word with bitch ways. You remind me of a bitch named Tiffany. Okay, yeah. Keep the screens. That's Tiffany. That is Tiffany.

3:45:15You're a player in the building. You're your player partner. That's hot. This is how we be getting down. Don't worry about us. Hey, I got people mad because of my girlfriend. I got people mad because of you feel me my side chick Jess West I got people mad because you feel me like my next bitch like it's crazy and the bitch from Hawaii that I got for six bands not too long ago so it's like a new one you bought a girl hey Stevie was a bitch crying about me yesterday acting a fool okay there it is so everyone in their little armies is mad online crying trying to say that I'm a predator because bitch is a football player I'm just telling you what I'm talking about Big Mike said Flacco paid$2 ,500 for the box.

3:45:59Paper Chaser said Rios, why does Fig Muni World act like Adam and No Jumper unalived a family member or something? Even when AD was saying he would never piece it up with Adam, like bro relax, all this because Adam wanted to change the show around. It's more about things that came after that to be totally fair. But they were like looking for reasons to justify them leaving. Man, pot lives matter bro. we all go get along y 'all not really beefing man you see what's happening with the brown podcast they really beefing this ain't no real beef ain't nobody tagging and doing and burning he gotta stand on shit cause he's the Lantana general he gotta hold it down for his whole community it's about to be over in about 6 months you think?

3:46:45what's gonna happen? y 'all gonna piece it up man I'm just gonna drive over to Bag on Figg and just be like, what up? Greatness is going to happen. Let's sit down. And I think you would be accepted. I don't think it would be anything. I'm going there, man. Heather, unblock me. Be back cool. The best coast will dominate that fucking internet when that happens. Man, I said Heather has a square booty. I seen a picture of her ass the other day. It looks amazing. Let's squash the beef. Yeah, the ass isn't squashed. We can squash the beef. Hey, because, man, they be talking about West Coast podcast, bro.

3:47:13We got to get under one court. You know what I'm saying? As black people, we got to get all together. White people, too. Under West Coast, like, media, you know what I'm saying? We ain't talking about the niggas that be solving cases and shit. We talking about, like, real media. The podcasts are real divided right now. If people ain't really mad, then what's the point? Because it seems like we're, like, really looking for grasping at straws to find reasons why we don't like each other. But there's no real reason. There's no reason, and this is why I'm here. We are going to fucking. We're going to bring the community together.

3:47:44I like that. I don't think there's. I personally am for it. and we're going to put fits together like Spody Face and film little cool videos showing off our fit. Double sold Tim's with the tuxedo from Canada. Bro, I got to get him a Fashion Nova deal. You should? Yeah. I will. I'll do that for the love of the game. I think he might have his own. You think? Nah. He might have his own. You need me a Fashion Nova deal. Right. What about me? Yeah, hell yeah. Go ahead. You got that guy? I used to hear his little ass. He said, you should make fresh and over, geez. I'm like, I ain't heard you say that in a minute.

3:48:19Yeah, yeah, yeah. They stopped making me do the podcast mentions. I did see somebody like two hours ago said that Munchie got a mic in his ducktail. That was pretty funny. Why you didn't laugh, Dan? I didn't want to read it in the chat. Most definitely wasn't funny. That was kind of funny, right? Most definitely. Who's Mike? He sounds pretty gay. Yo, Sparta 6 said, look, I don't even like YG. Yeah, he always gets his good shit. That was my third. I had to get my coat off. Hey, why are you putting up four figures on? Something like it. He's expecting the next one. There's a guy named Mike in his duck tail.

3:48:56Yo. Hey, you've been proving Munchie right, man. I love Munchie. Sparta 6 said, look, I don't even like YG, and I was saying Game was going to sweep him, but let's be real, YG crushed him, and YG was rapping his verse. His Game was halfway rapping his. I didn't say it that way, but shout out to you. Honestly, wasn't Game's Entourage kind of doing a lot and YG's entourage seemed like they were more in control. Game had girls up there. That one girl I followed, that Mexican girl that was twerking on them. I'm down with Mexican girls twerking, best believe. Yeah, we know. Sparta6 said, stop saying Game was a better performer.

3:49:29Game's homies rapping was fucking up the show. YG's homies blood walking was the highlight of the show. All right, we get it. Warcrimesarefun said, how does a blind man text back? Motherfucker, you ain't got text-to-speech? Come on now. SteezyMuslim has been a member for 10 months and said, Hey, Jess, have you been throwing it at Lush that way, the way he says you have been? Absolutely. She's been tossing it up. Dead folks grave. She wants to get down with the Clemson Street general, man. You know what time is it? Kate Blowne said, not really a YG supporter because of the whole Drago shit, but he def washed game.

3:50:00He got his hella club bangers. Game got more hip-hop classics. YG got the hits. That does seem like the impression a lot of people felt. Sparta 6 said, according to Adam, and in Top 5's words, him, Brick, and Drago turned YG into a Hindu from India so why would he be cool with Brick after that? Because ain't nothing but some words. I never believe that story. He put a red dot on his head. He loved putting out good... Oh, that's what he's talking about. Is that the same tough body being with Drago? I think that's what he's talking about. Didn't he go to the UK and get blasted? Yeah, they stabbed his ass.

3:50:40Where the fuck was his gun in? Because he couldn't bring it. Southfire is a goofy. Should have brought the blick. TT Me says, shut up, Lush. Wack was the extra security. Da-dum-ching. Sparta Six said, man, red stripes pants can't convict nobody. I got a pair of red striped pants. What the fuck? And Chief needs a DP from the Stink team for keep being a weak link. Okay, the thing with Chief, that's why they put a boy off grade. Chief keep doing that. Keep coming back without a jury, getting beat up. that's the same comparison. I mean, in that context. I do understand the correlation. Damn, cuz you keep getting whipped out.

3:51:22You ain't gonna do that. Chief and Mexican runt. Chief and a great dude. Mexican nut? What was it? Horn. Mexican nut. Again, I still mainly hold the venue and the promoters culpable. Get your nice ass up out of here It's the venue Regional expectation Dirty Sanchez said Frederick Jala Mingango Is my Frederick Jala Mingango Topka Is my real name and I paid $2 ,500 for the box

3:52:01Threat the whole name out Sparta 6 said First it was YG paid Now it's YG did it Then they said Munchie kicked him on the ground. Wax said that they had a gang table meeting on it, and it went bad. Lose Cannon said Big U set Draco up, so who knows? Yeah, I'm sure Big U would have motive to do that. Yeah, I'm sure that Lose Cannon's perspective is highly valued in this regard. What the fuck? Yeah, I ain't heard of. That was some wild accusations. Imagine Big U saying that. That's a lot of fucking shit out there. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. That's a lot out there. Lose Cannon who, like, produced half his catalog as well as Nas's and Michael Jackson.

3:52:36Man, loose candy and eating good commissary off them Drake and Nas records. Don't you worry. Sir K. TiVo said, police don't respect snitches. They even call it the blue coat of silence. They hold the same standard as street dudes. Right or wrong, they quick to put that jacket on dudes and then put them into situations. I'll say that over and over again. Yeah, always on cop shows, like on TV, they're always like, you fucking snitch. After they get under a run, come here, snitch. Go to your cell. That's another story that I go on for five minutes on that one. Yeah, they want you to snitch, but they're like playing a character when they're in that interrogation room trying to get you to tell on yourself, you know?

3:53:07Yeah, Adam. If they were telling you what their best advice was for you in life, they would say, hey, bro, shut up and get a lawyer. You know, they're playing a character. We don't need some relocation money, man, but it ain't going to keep coming. I love how they – You know what's so effective is they tell them, like, listen, this is your one chance to tell us what we need to know. Like, this is your one chance. as if if this case goes to trial it's going to be like multiple years and they're going to try to plea bargain with you like the whole time you clearly have many more chances to come if you want to change your mind and tell the details but when they say like this is your one chance motherfuckers jump on it and what they say is they're like look we already know you're guilty so you might as well just tell us what we need to hear and make it easier on us so when you do get convicted this is going to take time off of your sentence but they're not allowed to say that but that's the implication they're like i watch so much of that shit and also it's so funny because it's like you're obviously giving up all your leverage 100 like if there is a moment in this trial where it's going to be decided that you are going to get less time in exchange for information clearly that's not going to happen right now where there's no agreement and it like this crime happened five minutes ago like it's just insane all right let me pound through these further pause dt west said if flaco is wrong is trapper or ross as well rios and munchie i feel like the main issue is pretty much not like reacting to things that are coming out in the news so much as like going out of your way to be at the forefront of bringing that kind of stuff to the forefront so i don't think people feel the way when i hop on and make a video where i react to la times article but then when flaco like preempts the la times article by multiple months with information coming to the surface even if it's stuff that would have came to the surface either way i feel like yeah he's going to be judged harshly for that yes beautifully said you know look um philip diamini said flaco is too biased to be considered a journalist many people would agree with that philip also said flaco reports on gossip and rumors that's not being a journalist um that was so much his point that's the difference between journalism and commentary correct that being said i do think a journalist can work with rumors and gossip to a certain extent but they need to clearly label it as such would be best practice right and like i think we've kind of come to the agreement that regardless if he's considered a journalist he does things that act in a journalistic capacity or at least You got to think that journalistic capacity shit about it.

3:55:44What does that mean? He's at least on the spectrum of journalism. You want me to explain what that means? Elaborate. Like you're trying to be one? In a specific instance. So it's like, okay. Stop using fancy words to make sense. In a specific moment. Like at this moment, I'm acting as a journalist. I'm not a journalist, but I could do things that move in a journalistic way. You could do things that a journalist would do. you know if you just so happen to do so if he chose to do so but it doesn't really mean you're like acting as one right now and your research that you did could be one paragraph that you read it could be you know what i mean so it's like a broad stroke i mean we all kind of do journalism when we like seek out facts but then we don't most of us don't really do the putting it back out into the world thing as much yeah we don't have to stand on and it's like there's obviously a way different thing than like hey i just read this say cheese post and it says this and it seems like it's probably true versus saying like i'm gonna call mo three's uncle and ask who killed so and so you know obviously that's a different level but okay but there's also like munchie there's a difference between me chopping it up with y 'all right now on the pod and me being for example let's just say me being in the nutty blocks interviewing uh bz and like going to his hood.

3:57:04I'm sorry. Being in the ATFs, being in the cages, you feel me? And the ATFs and interviewing BZ2 Janky and walking through there and being okay and learning about that and asking questions about that community. That's operating in a journalistic capacity. I'm not a journalist. That's me being journalistic though. Remember I went to the Bounty Hunters and I filmed gang members cooking fake crack? There you go. like that was their idea i showed up and like they were like come in here we want to film something and i was like what do you want to do like we're gonna cook some crack up and i'm like seriously and they're like yeah but like check it out like we got this wax or whatever like they have some shit that kind of like looked like it would have been it and they're like we're gonna just do this and i was really cooking crack no i swear to god they were not and and i was like i was like yo So, like, honestly, like, you don't even really got to try that hard because, like, we're going to blur it out anyway.

3:58:03So, like, if your intent is to, like, trick people, it's probably going to work because we're going to blur it out. So, like, they're really going to just assume that that's what's going on. Obviously, like, some people would be able to zoom in if it wasn't blurred out and be like, that's not crack, probably. But we did that and I got a lot of shit for it because people thought we really filmed that for real. And that was also at a time when No Jumper didn't even have a lot of the stigmas. It wasn't the modern era. It was like 2019. And guess who sent me to do that vlog? AD? Y-Gizzle. Y-G. No, but AD wasn't there that day.

3:58:37It's Jizzle's voice. That was D3, right? Yep, yep, yep. Sir K Tebow said, they aren't journalists at all. There's zero journalism, ethics, and standards. You need to cite sources. Be impartial. Accountability went wrong, not only for financial gains. They are so close to defamation You also don't need to cite sources That is not true when you're talking about journalism Well good journalism That goes back to the Cuban Missile Crisis And fucking Deep Throat and all that No there's confidential If you're turning in a report Or paperwork you do have to Cite your resources You have to substantiate your information You've been trying to be a public defender for this dude For like an hour now man Yeah let's just keep it going so C-Row's the one said call Big Whack on Pyro official Mr.

3:59:24Baking Man said Lush was just the only person who actually came crawling back and became the biggest yes man on his page ain't lit so there's no proof he's a joint Lush came back cause he was just reasonable and realized that this was the spot to be so you know my bad bro where else was he gonna go this is the spot to be the pop out wasn't panning out the pop up the pop up was not popping up as long as you have to pop up in show brothers sometimes you gotta pop up yo that was actually after yeah it was but my favorite was chapel ross when he goes and i pop up at the pop-up and i pop up with a chopper so fire that was fire uh random one said why do you keep bringing up nick fuentes is it because moose girl checked you yesterday also where is dobo he's the best host for sure was i checked and is dobo the best host I need to vote from everybody Random Random one said Shout out to Adam Fofo5 Adam and hey fuck you Adam and Lush competing to see who looks More likely as an offender Rios looks like the one who set up the sting He's the pet hunter He got me slipping He got me slipping Gotcha That's a funny idea because he do look kind of like Millicent and shit like He kind of looks like Skeeter.

4:00:45Oh, shit. Skeeter asses. Jess West told me she was 25 beforehand. That's the decoy. I thought she was 25. And that's Gideon. I've started a movie called The Pedal Purge. Every year, there's a purge where we get to go take out the pedals. This is just like an idea you had? Yeah, pushing that. That'd be dope. I'm not going to lie because I got the Citizens app, so I get notified because I live near downtown L.A., So there's so many, like, it's a high concentration. They'll tell you the exact HSA is 0.5 miles away. Yeah, maybe that is why you live there. Yeah, because I'm a part of that. I mean, I don't know.

4:01:22Are you on a list? Yeah, look me up on the list. We'll see if I pop up. Now, a lot of people who choose to live in those areas have that in common. No, I'd be saying, okay, well, what I have in common with those individuals is that I was not, when I procured said housing, in the best position to procure any housing. Also, sexual fetishes. Yeah, and that as well. Not to mention the proclivities What's the name of the sandwich place By MacArthur Park? Lankers? Absolutely The greatest deli in Los Angeles Is it fire? The best Jewish deli On the west coast hands down The restaurant when we was Friday is Lankers In by MacArthur Park It got no business being over there but it got all business being over there Because it's always been there Speaking of food I did some janky shit last night We saw your burgers Dude because burgers she wrote is my favorite burger my favorite smash burger spot and last time I got it I felt like it just wasn't enough with the two patties so I was talking to Len and Len was like you should get two extra patties so I went and I got I got four and also that's right Len there is another reason why I did this too is that at one point this burger place they had a challenge right it's called the el toro challenge because there's a famous 20 stare at el toro high school in the oc right it's like skaters and bike riders do tricks down or whatever but they called it the el toro challenge because the idea was is that you basically would eat five burgers with four patties on each one and that's 20 patties total they are very very thin smash patties right and i mean it was some stupid shit like you got like the food for free you got like a t-shirt or some shit if you if you if you ate all five burgers with four patties so there was part of me that was like i want to eat one of those and then think about if i can imagine myself eating four more and after last night eating one of them i don't think i got it i don't think i can do it compare like one of them to a double double from in and out it might be like three of those patties because it's a smash burger so it's like it's there it's densely concentrated but it's been smashed so it's like a thin sort of like you know patty that's too much that's like john candy in great i fucked it up bro it it fucked up my my burger experience like i didn't like the quadruple it was not worth it and i don't think at one point i was gonna do it i was gonna really make it use of video trying this food challenge and i don't think i got it i could do honestly the only thing i feel like i could eat that much of would be like oxtail something that or like you feel me like something that's like very black coated so you could like show off no something that's like super like soft and chewy that you could just like eat a bunch of and digest but you have to have so many because there's only so much meat on the oxtail you have to have like yeah that's the point exactly i'm picturing like a big bowl with five of these burgers What the ones from last night?

4:04:24There is part of me that feels like maybe I could do it. 20 patties? Just 20 patties alone you can't do that. I feel like it'd be easier to eat it in burger form. He has to have water with it. And dunk it in there. When I watch the professional eaters on YouTube, though, pause, they seem like they usually mash it all up at some point. And they try to kind of take it out of their head of like, oh this is a sandwich so I have to eat it like this. No, they just start smashing it all up into just a pile of garule and just wolf it down. Yeah, but try to smash burgers from Jack in the Box. They straight too though.

4:04:58For real? Yeah, I don't know. Tiana Trump definition, but there's like professional eaters like Randy Santel who are fucking, that dude is crazy. Like that fool. Before I got into the interrogation videos, I had a little streak where I would just be watching this guy eat like 10 pound burgers and shit. Yeah, like. Who's the guy with the beard? rennie santel there's like a white dude with a crazy beard from like australia or something but they're never fat though like all the yeah they're not fat people that can eat a bunch of food they're not they're not and they say that they will like the day after they do that or the day before or whatever that they'll just eat like the tiniest little salads like barely eat i'm like they throwing it up after you think they say they don't like when you might you see but i feel like you can't like if you like throwing up food is usually only possible when you like eat it and kind of like do it right away if you even wait like five or ten minutes i feel like you're not getting a lot to come up i can't imagine what their like bowels are like regardless of that i've eaten much smaller meals and like threw up like accidentally well just like talking i would be man down the next day dude i forgot about bulimia and anorexia remember that shit hell yeah it's still out here that's a thing yeah social media made it way worse for girls way worse well now they take ozempic well that's one way to do it messed up and shit yo that's crazy I bet there are tons of like 18 year old girls on ozempic hey hey for sure there is but the gnarliest part of anorexia in particular is when they get super skinny and their body starts growing hair have you seen that what for real bro look it up why what do you mean the body grows hair like in weird places yes excessive amounts of hair on their arms on their shoulders if you're stricken with anorexia and why do you think that your body would do that?

4:06:52Let me see if anyone could come up with the reason It's like fighting for survival Yeah it is because Trying to stay warm? Yes! That's exactly why because they're like oh you don't even have enough fat to keep us warm What does it say? Chad doesn't want to tell me about it it seems like worried that I'm actually anorexic but it does say in patients with anorexia and nervosa the skin is typically dry and scaly and there is often soft downy hair growth referred to as lanugo hair on the sides of the face the back and the arms and the legs so look at what lanugo hair is if you want to I'm just saying or anyone that wants to because Adam you gotta be like for educational purposes I'm gonna nip that one in the bud I used to always be like I started you i i started to notice at a certain point that i was dating a lot of girls with with eating disorders you knew you were i just started to notice like all the girls who like me got eating disorders a lot of pretty girls you got to be sick in the head don't want to fuck with me so what would you know at the head you were they just tell me at some point or i would notice like once you date enough girls with eating disorders you start to really like see the telltale signs yeah and it's also like a lot of girls that are in the trying to be models or in the public eye and things like that, they tend to have eating disorders.

4:08:10Yeah, I thought it was gone. No, it's so big still. No, it's not as... Because women are like, they're appreciating thicker women now. You want to hear a funny story? Yeah. And I hate this because I really want to race losers, but this is so funny. So I had this ex-girlfriend and we break up. And the thing is, is that there was this like anorexia or like an eating disorder message board that she was on. And she would talk to like all the other girls in this message board. And at one point she had logged into it on my computer. So I still logged in so I could go on this message board and see the conversations that she's having with all these other sick fucking girls on the Internet.

4:08:45Right. And so after I get done with her, she starts fucking with this older black dude. And one day when I log in, I'm like, I want to see what this business is talking about. And I log into the message board and she has a thread all about how hard it has been trying to have sex with her new boyfriend because his huge dick is so big. is this a villain origin story that's what I'm saying it fucked me up at the time I'm like damn like I thought I was over and then all of a sudden I'm thinking about her fucking this huge black dick and I'm like damn this bitch is crying oh my god that took a quick left if he liked that that was a villain origin story I don't remember if any of the girls were giving her like advice or like good advice or anything oh yeah she's like if they're like if you want to lose weight yeah they were keeping her down just choke on the girls you're doing it wrong yeah yeah you're gonna throw up in no time bitch you're over here using your fingers to throw up yeah yeah yeah yeah method just came in yeah yeah method unlocked baby girl oh no but but you know so hot but but what's crazy about too is that this guy was the face of like an anti-smoking campaign that was on tv at the time really yeah wait why did you say that's so hot because the idea of like a bitch choking on my dick till she throw up is hot to me we were talking about black dick for the record but yeah i guess you think you have one of those maybe i said what i said and like i said what i said i don't understand why it's like yeah he asked me why i think it's hot that's why because i'm like i don't want to have to pee twice in one podcast i gotta finish this uh sergio p thank you for becoming a member uh come town which amazing said munchie i'm trying to get pun on where can i get jumped in i'm trying to get put on not pun on i'm i know we're not promoting no gang stuff yeah yeah we can't put you on at this time you get put on the morals over money or no jumper gangsta blood set you feel me like those are the two things you might be go play some marvel rivals go get put on society of freedom

4:10:57Dr. Freakabitch said introducing Dr. Breakabitch from South Africa support and flowers my G Dr. Breakabitch Dr. Breakabitch I feel like I could learn a lot from him that sounds like the homie Swiftie said stop saying he's a journalist journalists report facts blah blah blah Jesus Christ we get it man we get it okay dude alright um sorry I gotta scroll up now okay okay alright here we go Gman said you can critique Jess all you want but as facts her potting shits on Moose Doughboy and Ricky lush real joints don't have to go around trying to convince everyone why they're a joint big facts boom in your face lush I learned something Caperboy says shout out to Munchie B whoop db team and shout out to lush yeah jrv said free the brig not the trick the convict shout out just west fine ass she is fine as fuck she is happy for you to goon to her um coyote 8k said adam can you feature lush and or doughboy on an intro to a plug talk video no we were talking about me and my girlfriend doing a uh no jumper only fans video next week when she come out though you feel me so yeah that was have you ever met her in person yeah this would be my yeah my second time oh okay yeah first time you feel me how to get it i told her i said you think a flock i told my girl i told my bitch like this i know i told her in the inbox this is how i knocked her i was like i was like you're from houston she said yeah and i was like and i said i'm from la but that don't mean i don't want to chop and screw you and then she shows up and then i was hitting literally in less than 48 hours.

4:12:43So she's coming back. Oh, great. Okay. That is CMI, but thank you. YNG Lou said, when did King Lil G get deported? Did that happen? That's insane. For real? He was an illegal? What? I don't even know what the proper terminology is. I gotta look into that. That's insane. King Lil G, a real one, bro. He's a good dude. The Mexican rapper? Yeah. Deported is insane, man. man, fuck guys. Birdo the Frog, member for 15 months for the White Pack, said, let's be in the office all day, like, where am I hug at? You're right, he does hang out in the office and wait for hugs. Actually, I don't, like, the bitches just like me and not you.

4:13:21Sorry, you lame as hell. Like, yo, I'm interviewing Chromaz. Oh, is it cool if I stick around for a couple hours so I can get a hug? Chromaz, bro, I'm gonna stick around, bro. I might catch a charge over that. I don't give a fuck. King Jaffe Joffer said, Adam, stop leaving and ending pods early the fans don't give a fuck about your home life i've never seen budden leave this cast to finish without him hey fuck a home life actually he does that has happened i am aware of that and also i'm sorry i do more podcasts than almost anybody so yeah sometimes i have to like dip out on a podcast early sorry brother like yesterday i left the monday show after like an hour and 10 but before that i had just done like five hours of interviews before that i'm sorry that i like kind of need to live a normal life and like go out with my wife to get a giant burger or something i'm sorry yeah or five giant burgers yeah yeah yeah that's good how about what did you participate in eating challenges like no i just don't think i could eat five yeah you know what adam you deserve that in your life just a burger it's all about 22 sir bro i thought their video was cute it was the video on the story of us eating the burgers everybody we go watch that video on my story of us eating the burger thank you man leave adam alone you fucking losers yeah make con i'm actually creating a clipping campaign you can make a hundred dollars for every million views if you clip me eating a burger and me what they just start using the ai you they probably will have to because i don't think you could make the video of me eating the burger go viral if you tried because who the fuck cares dude i got told that dean and ab and clav and all the like kick superstars that a couple months ago it used to be 400 bucks for a million views if you were a clipper forum and then it got cut down to more like 100 or like 150 because everyone's doing it now because they would get so many demand principle and because it's easy to make them go viral that's what i heard about mr beast too he only he pays clippers but he pays like a way lower rate than most people because it's easy to make mr beast go viral because he's I mean just he's recognizable like people are going to watch a Mr.

4:15:27Beast video on their feed before they watch a video of some random guy they've never seen because he'd be on watching it once the name's in the algorithm just that word typed in Mr. Beast yeah are you still looking for clippers I had seen your story post no fuck the clippers I'll kill a clipper never clip me Sergio Del Turbo said no disrespect Munchy my favorite podcaster but can you admit Draco's disses went kind of hard though and beautifully they hit different after what happened I don't think Munchy needs to admit that but you know there's some good music made on both sides let's be real uh black jesus says shout out to kyle young stream and discord where the tastemakers at tap in clusters shout out to y 'all that's like the harmonious gang yeah the kyle gang the kyle gang i'm not familiar with the kyle gang but hopefully they're out there you know the idiot from la has been a member for a whopping 29 months he said someone who was supposed to signed to 400 told me the YG Tiffany song was going to drop before it did and that it is his story.

4:16:29What did he kill the fucking trans person? You remind me of a bitch named Tiffany. I hope that's not true. That'd be great. That's a villain. If that was true and YG was really trying to allude to that, he would have sampled that record. That would have been the artistic thing to do. I don't believe he did that. Gary said 22. We need that. Immortal Technique interview. I assigned that to Lush. That's my homeboy. So let's do that. Shots to Tech, where you at? Shout out to Uno, the battle rap legend and great to see the mayor back. B-Team. No jumper gangster blitz. Dragonite, Ian Potastic said, fuck Queen Skante, and shout out to Kyle Young.

4:17:08We need him on the Tuesday show. Are you Queen Skante? I have no idea who that is. You don't participate in the meth? I don't think that's her. No Bristol? Hell no. You've never been to Bristol Farms? I've done every drug probably. For real? Like every drug, yeah. That's lit. I have to tell you I don't like it. You can't tell me like, oh, don't do that. No. Would you and Munchie go on a Molly vacay together? For sure. Phil Clinton. No Bristol. Phil Clinton. I'm not a hater because I already said, because she posted a pic of me and Munchie and she was in the middle. I said, oh, she loved being in between the two of us.

4:17:43I did. You feel me? I did. I'm not like a hater. Yeah, I'm not a hater either. Yeah. that's like one time uh travis barker took a picture with me and lena way back in the day and posted it on his instagram and just wrote the caption just said she wants us both damn and i remember at the time that like his daughter was like super young she was like 14 or some shit and she just commented ew dad gross that was like way before like she was like hella famous and shit. I couldn't believe he left that catch. That's caught on fire. That's probably Travis Barker. Never got to do that. That we would have came full circle.

4:18:29Hey, do I look like Travis Barker? But I keep them drums clapping. Yo, imagine I saw Travis Barker and tried to explain that whole thing to him. That has to happen. He has to have had it come by his desk. Yeah, I'm sure he's super psyched. But just to see him react to it in real life would be sick. It's just crazy. What a great bar. It was ruined by such a terrible rap. Yeah. Okay. Almost done. El Grande Lobo said, No Jumper is a crazy place. Jess just dropped some validity to a murder, and it's just another day in the office. Damn. That's true. Everybody do be dying, man. We can't help it. Big Mike underscore Hemi said, Adam, who helped you ID Loose Cannon's homies when the J.

4:19:13Reid beating happened? Look up for whack. look down for whack who helped you ID his homies I'm just basing on like who got arrested man stupid as hell Spam Greer said y 'all not suspects girlfriend on stream with Rampage Jay and he's socking out a dude for talking to her talking about that's my girlfriend now I know what sus is mad at females he was reaching out for pen pals on Saturday wait wait wait wait so you're saying the suspect's girlfriend he wasn't talking about her he wasn't She was there, though. She was out of stream with Rampage? Yeah, she was just out of the way a little party. It was, yeah, they're making it seem like something is not, but, like, at all.

4:19:56I don't even know what a suspect girlfriend is. That was part of the game, though. You get locked up, and then they're going to bring your girl on a stream, man. You go to jail, girl get clapped. It happens. It happens. Suspect ain't no different. Suspect ain't do nothing wrong. You're going to have to make her kneel on rice. That's why you did. Yeah. All right, yo. Everybody smack them like buttons. We are at 752. Need to hit a K. Let's get that K going. It's a pretty cool podcast, guys. Yeah, shout out to everybody who watched. Shout out to Jess West. Shout out to Munchie B, Rios. Yes, sir. Thanks for having me, fellas.

4:20:32I had a blast. A blast. I really did. Good old time. Shout out to Lush1. Shout out to my girl. You believe you shout so ugly. Hey, I'm the realest J.K. That was just a guest. What are you? I'm in Dominican. That was a guest. he's Puerto Rican he's Puerto Rican I'm black they were saying in the chat Jess are you black reels are you black they were saying that in the chat yes I'm black you're mixed right Jess let's gonna rap like in the middle of Little Italy didn't do diddly dead in the middle of Little Italy you say Puerto Rican and I get worried that he's gonna do that dead in the middle of Little Italy even after I said it he still did it somebody calls you Asian right was that whack I think it was either whack or Adam whack on the smoke with you how do you feel about that it's all good what you guys want me come on Friday usually we do Thursdays Thursday it don't matter oh I thought you talking about smoke some weed you talking about smoke smoke damn double episode do a Rios episode is you gonna come in hot like moose or are you gonna come in nah you gonna come in hot like moose yeah you gonna come in classy and sophisticated that's not how I get down but let me talk to let me make sure we have time for it cause I am supposed to do something else on fucking Thursday I'm supposed to do a Thursday stream oh we got another super chat.

4:21:44I've seen my name. T.K. Kirkland is returning. T.K. Kirkland back on the platform after like eight years because I saw him at the steakhouse. So. T.K. Kirkland. Oh, the comic. Oh, shit. Ask him why you hating on Juski. Yeah, I did see him saying Juski's not a comedian. I'm like, as somebody who looked up the word comedian in the dictionary the other day, like nah. Juski's not considered a comedian? He is a comedian. Like, comedian basically means like a person who utilizes a variety of mediums including television, internet, audio, whatever, to express and create content that is largely for the purpose of making people laugh.

4:22:23How the fuck is Drewski not a comedian? Now, he's not a stand-up comedian. Okay, but a stand-up comedian is a much more specific thing than just a comedian. He's probably like the biggest, if not like top five in the world right now. I can't think of anybody who's more of a self-made success as a comedian than him. Like he might not be a stand-up comedian. These old heads are Hayden, that's why. For sure, he's the paradigm of comedy. He's like what comedy is right now. He's like the regular route. 100%. I respect T.K. Kirkland and his craft, though, but you gotta let the youth do that thing. He not Ruski.

4:22:55Think about the fact that Ruski's getting enough bread that he could just spend over$100 ,000 to film a short that he's going to make basically no money on. Why would he do some shit like that? Just because he wants to get a funny idea off, I guess. okay see he shouldn't know niggas in cause that's crazy hey shout out to four and a half hour pause though whoa that's how long we did this is a long one let's get the fuck out of here shout out to everybody here we just can't stop chatting with each other isn't it crazy we love each other make sure once this is done loading that you leave a comment let us know what you thought smash the like button I appreciate everybody go tune in to these people's channels cause you know they all make content and they all got Instagram

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