In short
YK Niece discusses her rise after the organic breakout of “Whim Whammy,” her experiences in LA vs Atlanta (food, clubs, traffic, “gangster” narratives), her views on Obama and war/presidential responsibility, leadership/gender and prison, her upbringing and grief, and her fallout/beef with former collaborator Pluto—plus how internet comments distort real situations.
Guest (YK Niece) background
23-year-old up-and-coming female hip-hop artist from Atlanta; raised with strong family structure (church Sundays, family dinners). Her mother was the main parent; she describes absent father involvement. She worked multiple jobs (security, Pepsi warehouse) while hustling and studied nursing/then considered law, but left due to stress and uncertainty. She credits God/prayer and “tough skin” after losing close family members (granddad, best friend, nephew Delph).
Key claims
“Whim Whammy” blew up organically while Pluto and YK Niece were homegirls (Pluto braiding hair; YK Niece security). She says she didn’t want fame, only personality-driven content. She argues women can be leaders and that leadership/emotion is not the deciding factor. She insists she won’t “backtrack” after betrayal and avoids airing private details publicly.
Notable examples
BET nominations (BET best female hip-hop artist, best collab, etc.); Roscoe’s/Obama-related menu changes; comparisons to Jeezy/Gucci and Drake’s lack of public relationship drama; references to “Pluto diss” tracks circulating online.
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Chapters
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0:45 to 2:00
YK Niece discusses her BET nominations and her experiences in LA.
“What did you eat that turned you off to it?”
Food Preferences and Comparisons
2:00 to 5:00
Discussion on the food experiences in LA versus Atlanta.
“Well, no, I ain't going to say all the club.”
Nightlife and Club Culture
5:00 to 7:00
YK Niece shares her thoughts on clubbing in LA compared to Atlanta.
“They said somebody else own it now or rent it or something.”
Gang Culture and Safety Perceptions
7:00 to 10:00
Discussion on the perceptions of gang culture and safety in LA versus Atlanta.
“I think a woman could be just as good as a leader.”
Family Dynamics and Upbringing
10:00 to 12:00
YK Niece reflects on her upbringing and family relationships.
“But then it's like it's got people that you got parents that did everything they could and did that and you still came out another way.”
Path to Music and Personal Growth
12:00 to 14:01
Conversation on YK Niece's journey into music and her personal growth.
“You spend your whole life wanting to be rich and famous, but then once you do it, you start to realize.”
Building Confidence and Popularity
14:01 to 16:27
Learn how YK Niece developed her confidence and popularity before music.
“But I think since I got here off my personality, well, starting with my personality, I think that's like one of the main reasons.”
Navigating Education and Career Choices
16:28 to 19:01
YK Niece shares her experiences with education, career shifts, and uncertainties.
“And yeah, I'm just, I'm glad I got this experience though.”
Coping with Loss and Motivation
19:02 to 21:04
The artist discusses personal losses and how they shaped her drive in music.
“Like literally building pallets like all the way to the top.”
From Rapping as a Hobby to Success
21:05 to 23:44
YK Niece explains how she transitioned from casual rapping to a successful career.
“but I just tell myself like, you got to keep going.”
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The Organic Rise of a Hit
23:45 to 26:20
Discover how YK Niece's hit song gained traction without a label's support.
“the first song I actually made and it was like brought out and it was like dropped.”
Navigating the Music Industry Landscape
26:21 to 28:00
YK Niece opens up about the challenges and realities of the music industry.
“So I knew like management, you know, I knew where to go to get the shit.”
Navigating the Music Industry
28:00 to 29:06
Understanding the differences between the music industry and real life decisions.
Friendships and Success
29:06 to 30:12
Exploring the impact of simultaneous success on friendships in music.
“to put stress on the friendship and the relationship right away um no it took a little I feel like, well, me, honestly, I'm the type of person that just read and observe anyway.”
The Reality of Musical Duos
30:12 to 31:26
Discussing the challenges and dynamics of working in musical partnerships.
“when you blow up on a song with another person.”
Aftermath of Betrayal
31:26 to 33:08
Reflecting on personal feelings after a friendship falls apart in the industry.
“But, yeah, historically it's just, like, the hardest thing.”
Performing Past Collaborations
33:08 to 34:20
Addressing the emotional complexities of performing songs with former friends.
“So it's like, I don't want to make the same mistake again.”
Public Perception and Reality
34:20 to 35:53
Discussing the differences between public perception and personal reality.
“Because, okay, so I'm like trying to understand from the outside, and I was watching a clip of Loon and OMB Peasy talking about the situation, and they both seem to think that like.”
The Nature of Internet Drama
35:53 to 37:31
Examining how internet interactions can distort personal relationships.
“Yeah, but the thing is, I'm not even that type.”
Maintaining Privacy in Public Life
37:31 to 42:01
Discussing the importance of privacy and personal integrity amidst public scrutiny.
“like, even when it come down to, like, homegirls, if I'm not, like, I don't have homegirls.”
Addressing Disputes and Misunderstandings
42:01 to 44:27
Discover how misunderstandings in the music industry can lead to reputational issues.
“make the person the bad guy or none of that.”
Authenticity in Rap and Relationships
44:27 to 47:15
Explore the importance of authenticity in rap and the perceptions of honesty in relationships.
“Why would I believe that you're not going to slime me out the same way you did someone else you know?”
Famous Collaborations and Experiences
47:15 to 50:48
Learn about notable collaborations and the experiences that shaped the artist's career.
“Like ones that you were just really impressed by?”
Views on Atlanta's Reputation
50:48 to 51:48
Hear thoughts on the evolving reputation of Atlanta in the rap scene and personal experiences with snitching.
“Like snitch as in like criminal wise or like just snitch?”
Personal Encounters with Law Enforcement
51:48 to 54:06
Discuss personal experiences with law enforcement and the impact on life and career.
“Police pulled me over, pulled the guns out, all type of shit.”
Performing at Major Events
54:06 to 56:00
Get insights into the experience of performing at large-scale events like FIFA.
“But that was like one of your biggest songs now right?”
Discussing Relationship Dynamics
56:00 to 58:34
Explore the complexities of dating and relationship expectations in the industry.
“I just told you I'm not dating that damn man.”
Song Creation Process
58:34 to 1:01:24
Learn about the collaborative nature of creating hit songs and how energy influences music production.
“we're like part of what they always want to know is like do you have writers?”
Perspectives on Relationships and Jealousy
1:01:24 to 1:05:46
A candid discussion about personal preferences in relationships and the idea of threesomes.
“Right, but you're like in the video, right?”
Body Image and Personal Authenticity
1:05:46 to 1:08:58
Discuss the pressures of body image in the music industry and the importance of being true to oneself.
“If he just want to have a little spice it up a little bit, I can get you a show, baby.”
Career Aspirations and Parenthood
1:08:58 to 1:10:00
Explore the challenges of balancing a growing career with the possibility of parenthood.
“I'm going to have to be able to get on the stage and, you know, have breath control, like all type of shit.”
Navigating Career and Personal Life Decisions
1:10:00 to 1:11:20
Discover the challenges of balancing career ambitions with personal life choices, including starting a family.
“Yeah, you don't want to have to do that, huh?”
Setting Ambitious Goals in Music
1:11:20 to 1:11:56
Learn about the artist's aspirations for success and the desire to create a number one hit.
“What big moves do you want to make throughout like the rest of 2026 as far as your career and everything?”
Women’s Impact on the Rap Scene
1:11:56 to 1:13:12
Explore the influence of women in rap and how they inspire new artists to enter the industry.
“But other than that, I'm not focused on collaborating, doing features.”
Shoutouts and Acknowledgments
1:13:12 to 1:15:19
A heartfelt segment where the guest recognizes her team, inspirations, and peers in the music industry.
“And now we got a whole list of females right now.”
Lighthearted Banter and Personal Stories
1:15:19 to 1:18:04
Engage in a casual conversation about relationships, experiences, and the dynamics in intimate situations.
“It's one male and four fucking, like, just say natural female.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And today, long awaited, I'm sitting down with one of the biggest up-and-coming female artists in the game. Is that fair? Yeah. Nice. YK Niece is in the building. How you doing? Hi. What you doing out here in L.A.? BET. Yeah? Yeah. Nominated three times. Really? What were the nominations? BET, hip-hop artist. No. What it is? Best female artist? Yeah, best female hip-hop artist. Best collab? Viewed, pick, and best collab. Wow, that's exciting. Yeah. Is this your first time in L.A.? No. No? Okay. It might have been like three times. Oh, okay. What do you think of L.A.
0:43versus Atlanta? They got disgusting food. Disgusting fruit? Food. Food, just in general? Yeah, it's nasty. What did you eat that turned you off to it? Everything. I tried. Everything? Yeah. Well when I got flew out the first time They took me to like this fancy restaurant With all this fancy food That was high as f*** And it was like nasty And then we went out to eat again the next day And then it was nasty And then it's like every time I come I've been here like four days And I haven't eaten Subway and Wingstop Really? Yeah What do you eat when you're at home? There's so much Gravlet, seafood, hibachi, oxtail, soul food We got it all Okay So you're pretty open-minded food-wise?
1:25I'm kind of picky I feel like that's like with rappers they either like blow up and then they start eating all this fancy food eating whatever eating the nice shit and then some rappers just stay in their ways and they're like nah I'm eating McDonald's don't be having like taste for real it'd be like a hundred dollars and it'd be like nasty I don't get it I wish I could show you some of the like fine dining that I did on my honeymoon in France that you know bad like you would not have enjoyed it at all it's like the most expensive shit ever the fanciest shit ever but it's just terrible cause it's all for the look they wouldn't need to look like that it's for like food experts that know so much about food that they like somehow have lost the plot and just think that like there's a lot of foam going on you get like food with like foam on it for real I'm like what is foam I'm like looking it up in my phone like I ain't never had it no yeah you don't want that yeah I ain't never had it definitely um but okay like vibe Club wise, LA, just cool to you?
2:24I just hated all the club clothes. Well, no, I ain't going to say all the club. They got at the house. They got strip clubs. But it's like, I don't know. It's like a different vibe from Atlanta for sure. Like club wise as well. But they be lit. Like out here, I could tell like they be dancing for real. Like they be hunching on me. They be hunching and stuff. Out here? Yeah, I've seen like three people hunching the club. All that loud dancing. Interesting. Dry hunching. All that type of stuff. LA has a real reputation for the club scene being dead at this point. But I don't know. Maybe that changes during BET weekend.
2:53Yeah, it was a little lit. I had a little show, like 45 minutes out from the hills of Hollywood, and they was lit. They was really lit. They was loud as f***. They was rapping all the music. Okay, nice. I feel like even if it's a week all year long, that by the time BET weekend comes along and you got a million out-of-towners, then that's probably when it's going to be good, right? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Does it feel like dangerous, like a little two-gangster out here, or you're not really seeing all that? No. I live in Atlanta. Okay. So it's like, I don't know. LA wants to be like the most gangster city in America.
3:26That's what they blame everything on. It's like, oh, we too street. We got too much gang shit, too much beef. That's why people don't want to come here. What be going on in LA? You know, like while all the BET weekend stuff was going on this weekend, we also are like seeing all the LA like hood pages posting like clips, like people from different gangs beating the shit out of each other. I ain't seen that. Ain't coming in nowhere. See, we're all in different algorithms. Yeah. But if that was happening in Atlanta, for sure it's on your algorithm. Yeah, for sure. But it's going to take a week for it to hit mine.
3:52Yeah. Unless it's some good shit. There's always some good shit going on in Atlanta. Yeah. Do you know? You never been to Atlanta? No, I have. Oh, you don't like it? No, I love it. Yeah, it's great. Okay. But it's, I will say it's like a friendlier vibe. But it has like that down south, the hospitality energy. I'm not saying friendly like some pussy shit. You know, I know. It go down out there. I think, yeah, I think a lot of people that come to Atlanta, like, diversity wide, like, It's like everybody that come. I feel like Atlanta is so fun. And I feel like we live. I feel like you have like people, but them like people, like the people that's just out.
4:27Like say for instance, you got somebody at the airport and you want to, hey, can you do this, can you do that? Like you would have the whole ATL airport waiting to greet somebody, like tight shit. Really? Like they just, I love my city. LA is like, oh, there's so much traffic. I can't do anything. I'm so busy. I have to have a million different jobs and hustles in order to afford living out here. Everybody's like stressed out about the cost of living I feel like it kind of dictates people's Behavior a little bit It is a whole lot of traffic Yeah pissing me off Would you move here? No First of all the food itself is no no You been to Roscoe's?
5:01Yeah It's straight I don't know what I think they lost their I don't know who in the kitchen Well you know what's fucked up is that The keystone meal At Roscoe's was always the chicken waffles but then Obama came here and they named it after him because he ate it but then a couple years ago they unnamed it which I really don't know why exactly. They said somebody else own it now or rent it or something. Yeah, that would make sense. I mean if you own a food place at some point it gotta get passed down right? Unless it just stays in the family. I don't know. I think who was in the kitchen back then is who need to come back to the kitchen.
5:39Maybe like Obama's just not as lit as they thought he was back then. Okay. You f*** with Obama? yeah I fucked with Obama you're kind of young I didn't well I mean you're kind of young to like you were like probably a small I thought you said yorn I was like I did not yorn but no no I didn't say yorn no I fucked with Obama of course I fucked with Obama right but you were like a kid when he was president and shit I wasn't like well yeah I was a kid for sure yeah but I just noticed a lot of people like don't stand on business for Obama like they used to oh why not I guess he wasn't like progressive enough or he was bombing the shit out of all these other countries and stuff, which to me is kind of fly.
6:19You know, we got to defend ourselves. Okay. What's that? What are we doing? Maybe a little bit more than they – but, I mean, that's what happens with everybody. Everybody says they're, like, against war, and then they become president and they're bombing everybody. I mean, I feel like as a president, right now, a country is, like, something will have to happen, like, regardless, like, what's going on. I feel like a president make hard-ass decisions. Yes. How do you want it, like, they make no decisions? and hard ass decisions about things that you are not an expert in realistically because what the do you know about the military just because you became president in the whole world like you got a whole like all these people right here that you got to make sure that's straight or make sure that don't this don't happen this don't happen and it's like down like and then when the call come it's like you still got to go out there you got to kill all them people do you think if you were president that we could trust you to make rational decisions about you we could do you think that your period would affect that no do you think why do people think first see that's the problem right there i just honestly wanted to know your opinion right because oh well people think um i think people think that women can't do a lot of things off emotion but it's like we're the like most hardcore people in the world like we do a lot of shit that men can't even wear on their sleeves so honestly I feel like we probably do need a woman prison because I feel like even then I feel like women think about it all the way around and I think we are the pros and the cons and we don't make it off of emotions I think men is very emotional and make them off of emotions Well when you consider that like 98 % of people that are in prison are men that makes me think well maybe women are more emotional than men in some way but apparently the men are the ones who are making the emotional decisions that are getting them sent to level four maximum security prisons yeah but it's like i don't know but do you believe in it i okay so i watched this like debate the other day where it was basically this one democrat little white boy super smart and he's debating all trump supporting women and one of the things that they were uh debating was basically like are men better leaders than women and at first i wasn't really like sold either way but after watching like five minutes of this, I was like, I don't really believe that that's true.
8:36I think a woman could be just as good as a leader. But I do think women are a great leader. I feel like y 'all come from us, first of all. We're just going to start there. Well, you couldn't make me without me helping. Right, but I'm just saying you was in me. I care with you and I push you out. Right. But you couldn't have done that without a man. Exactly, but the gag is just like, I feel like even with a son, I mean not a son, like a daughter and a son, it's like you need it. I feel like we are the root at the end of the day. Yeah, you help me, but it's all the root. And down to men, men need their mama.
9:09Men do a lot of things based off mom's relationship, this and that. It all start from the female. It all start from the woman. We run a road. Are you one of those people that throws it in a guy's face if they were raised by their mom? Because I see a lot of that these days. No, I feel like
9:28it depends on how they was raised and who and what the situation is. So I don't really like to say that because it can be somebody that got a good relationship or it could be a mama that did everything and her son still, you know, came out a whole nother way that she raised him up to be. So you can't really dictate that. I feel like I constantly interview dudes who are raised by their moms that just became monsters. They didn't have, yeah, they didn't have their dad. But then also I interview people all the time who got like a dad that tried to keep them out the streets, didn't work. They ended up in prison and they ended up doing all the crazy shit regardless.
10:00Like I don't, I don't, I feel like to a certain extent a lot of like kids just come out the way they're gonna come out and it don't really matter that much your parents influence like obviously your parents influence matters but I mean I feel like it's it's not 100 % of the equation I feel like it's like a percentage percentage like it's here and there I feel like sometimes I do feel like things happen like it start from home and And it be those type of issues that lead them to do certain type of shit, like growing up or do things. But then it's like it's got people that you got parents that did everything they could and did that and you still came out another way.
10:38So I feel like it's like a 50-50 thing. Yeah, it could definitely go both ways. OK, so take me into the world of a young YK niece. Like tell me about your upbringing, what kind of family you were brought up in. I went to church every Sunday. I had, I do, me and my family do family dinner on Sundays. My grandma liked to get all her grandkids and her kids over to have, you know, family time, eat. So family mattered a lot in your world. We all we got, actually. So we're very big on that. Like Christmas, like everything regardless family, like we're very big on it. I think that right there is the number one thing that'll like make a kid not throw their life away.
11:18It's like having that real strong family unit. Yeah. And then I was lit, though. I was outside having fun enjoying myself you had mom and dad no I had mom my mom was my mom and my dad okay where was dad at you never met him or down the street he just wasn't really involved he was involved when he wanted to be or when he could be I really don't know but yeah I always had my mom though for sure did you resent him for that or did you respect for a little while and then I grew up and then I just had to realize like you know people go through other shit and I was just trying to look at from his shoes like I don't know and I was just like everybody make mistakes no one perfect you know what I'm saying so whatever led him to that point or whatever happened to him to be absent you know I just pray for him actually is it one of those things where he came back back around more once you became successful you don't want to have to deal with him hitting your phone after this come out Yeah Yeah I can imagine Yeah But I feel like It's like that with a lot Like when it did come It was just It was a lot of people Coming back around A lot of people Trying to be consistent A lot of people Trying to act like You know they was down For before A lot of people Trying to do certain things But it's just like I remember I was broke I ain't had nobody I couldn't call them By the butt my mama And my aunties Like I ain't had nobody So I'm trying to figure out What's going on now Like everybody acting like They just here for what K and they support And they f*** each other But when I ain't had nobody In my back against the wall I ain't had nobody to call, so.
12:51You spend your whole life wanting to be rich and famous, but then once you do it, you start to realize. I never wanted to be famous. You didn't? No, I'm not the type of person that walk in. Why the hell you start rapping? I never, like that one I'm saying, I never was the person that wanted to be the front attention. I never was the person that wouldn't walk in the room and be like, oh, highlight them. Like, I was never that person. I walk in the room, I mind my being, and it's just, it gratitates to me. Well, you wanted to be that kind of famous person? No, I didn't want to be famous at all. I don't like, I didn't want to be famous at all.
13:15Like, if you followed me before music, it was just like I was just big on just personality like what I do I always like record it you know have fun like people knew me from my personal life day I was like you funny as fool like it was never like a big thing like I didn't really post like even now I don't really like post a lot like I be in my own bubble like still but I know like with my lifestyle now all that gotta change you know I gotta post content this many times I gotta do this I gotta do that so that's the difference but it's like I'm 23 So I feel like you grew up in the content world, you know, where it was normal to like think in TikToks and whatnot.
13:57Like you always grew up with that as like part of your life, short form content and whatnot. But I think since I got here off my personality, well, starting with my personality, I think that's like one of the main reasons. It's like, I don't know, I'm not shy. I'm not like I'm very confident in everything I do. Like I walk like I'm her. I believe in myself. So it's like when it came to me, it wasn't like a force. It wasn't me trying. It was organic going on. Like this is just me anyway before I was a rapper. It's like what they see me, it was already me before I started rapping. It's just now I rap.
14:25Were you always pretty confident in yourself? Like even if we were to like see what you were like in high school and shit? Were you that? Oh, I never gave a fuck. You were very sure of yourself? Yeah, I never gave a fuck. Were you popular? I was popular, but I want to say like popular as in media wise. Like where I was, wherever I go, I was known, people knew me, you know, people never tried me. So I was good. And I'm cool as fuck, so that just made it even better. No, I was watching one of your other interviews and it sounded like that, like you were probably like a person that people were drawn to even before the music and stuff.
15:00Yeah, I mean, well I've been like, any school I went to, any community I stayed in, like wherever I went, I dealt there and I like, people know where I'm from. Definitely. You did good in school? Yeah. I mean, I skipped a little bit, but, you know, I still did my work. You graduated? Yeah, I went to college. Oh, okay. How long? Four years. And then I almost got kicked out. Oh, you almost got kicked out? Yes. Well, it's really because I was, I just felt like at the time it was a lot going on with COVID. And I went there for a nurse. So then it was a lot of the vaccine stuff. It was just a lot. I was like, I don't even think I want to do this because like, where the hell, where is this going to lead me to?
15:37Like I didn't know where it was going to go in the medical field Regardless of everything that was going around So it just made me not even want to do that no more And then at first it was a lawyer I didn't want to do the lawyer no more Because I felt like I got to take work home with me And it's going to be like another stress on my mentality And it's like I want to work and enjoy my life and be fun I don't want to be worried about nothing, depressed about nothing Worry about default life in my life Like it was a lot So after all that it was just like Damn and I was busting my ass Like broke, hustling doing four different things, trying to pay for tuition.
16:11It was just a lot going on. So I was just like, maybe I need to go to home and step my money and go get some money. Because me trying to work and trying to turn in a three-page essay and trying to do this and make sure I can eat and make sure this, and I was just like, then I'm here with people, got friends that ain't my friends, getting this shit. It was just a lot. So I was just like, I'm gonna go. And yeah, I'm just, I'm glad I got this experience though. Okay. So had you been thinking about rapping or around rapping all through high school and shit, too? No. I mean, I dated someone that rapped, but I never I never wanted to do it.
16:46But he used to try to get me to get on the songs and shit. Like, I know what to say. You weren't feeling it. Was he trying to write for you? It was cool. Yeah. Well, we made a song, but it was like even then. It's like I think there was like some fun that we did on like late night in the car smoking type shit. OK. But this is some dude we don't know about. Yeah. You won't know about him. OK. Damn. they laughing like his feelings gonna be hurt i actually don't know who it is so uh okay now i feel like i probably know who it is no you don't know who he is actually well i know about a lot of thank you know who he is i don't know they're giggling like i'm gonna i'm gonna find out at some point but no you're not i know about a lot of like pretty irrelevant people realistically do you i mean that's what i do i talk to people that are like pretty early in their career a lot of times you know okay but you know probably not there's a lot of people on earth um okay but so when did you start like really rapping or was it like a plan like you know what instead of being a lawyer or a nurse I'm gonna be a rapper or did we just I went home and I got me a job and I was stacking my money that's what I did I went it was security then I got fired then I went to Pepsi then I got fired why did you get fired from security cause I went to sleep I was sleeping they had me overnight but the thing was I was so determined and making my money and hustling, it was like I was working a lot of shills.
18:06I used to go to work at 2 in the afternoon, get off at 11, and then go pick up another shill at 2 in the morning, get off the next day at 7 in the morning. So it was just like, I was f***ing tired. But it was like, I was like, I'm going to do it until I can't do it no more. Like, I know I'm tired. I'm going to work a 20-hour shill. So if I'm here at 3 in the morning, I'm going to go to sleep. And then they had me in the car. Oh, so you're in the car? I mean, how the f*** are you not going to go to sleep? That's what I'm saying. So I was like sleeping a lot. I usually had my alarm, you know, like the renewal around it.
18:36But, you know, them days when you just fall asleep. And then people walked up to the window. I mean, I could fall asleep pretty easily, like all the time. Never mind. Three in the morning. Hell, there's almost nothing that could stop me from falling asleep at three in the morning. Yeah. So I was just like, so I went to Pepsi. It was like 30 hours an hour. I thought I hit jet pot. But when I got there, it was like, oh, that's why it's 30 hours. because you got to do a whole lot of fucking work. Yeah. Hell yeah. I was building pallets. 24 counts, 30 count, 40 count. Like literally building pallets like all the way to the top.
19:10Physical labor. Like the opposite of the security thing. Pick them up, putting on the pallet. Now you're like physically working all the time. I'm putting on the pallet. You can't fall asleep because you're ruling. You definitely can't. Yeah. Yeah. That was cool. But then I lost my friend. So I just was like, fuck their job. It just wasn't working. Who was your friend? Like real, real close friend? Yeah. She was like one of my best friends. How's she best? I was growing up. Someone might have heard. Damn. Yeah, it's okay. That changed how you view life? We're going to do justice. Oh, you're still trying to figure out who did it?
19:38Or they caught who did it and they're going to be on trial? You don't know. But we're still working on it. Okay. But it's our fault, though. But yeah. But that changed how you viewed life because that was like something you were super close with? I never lost nobody that close to me that like was family. Like before that, I lost my granddad. That was probably like the first person that I was like really close with mentally that I lost. And then a year after that, I lost her. And then it was like, damn, that was my best friend. And then a year after that, I lost my nephew. So it was like, damn.
20:13But I don't know. I feel like I got tough skin. I pray a lot. I believe in God. So it's like he got me through it. I'm here. I'm still doing it. I was going to quit music, actually, when I lost my nephew. Because I just feel like it was a lot. And then it was like me already grieving with her. and then having to agree with that. And then me just like, damn, like, I wanted both of them to be here. Like, I knew she would have been my number one supporter and I knew the things that I wanted to do for my nephew when I didn't have the money and the shit I could have did, it was like, damn, I knew. It just all f***ed up.
20:43But, you know, just got to keep going. You could let shit like that just make you depressed and make you lazy, or you could take that and look at it and say, like, look, like, I don't got that much time on earth. And it's not promised. You know, like I could be gone tomorrow, so I might as well go hard and take chances now. I just had to keep going. I just taught myself like, I mean, I cry a lot, you know, when I'm in bed and shit, but I just tell myself like, you got to keep going. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like if they were serious, they would be telling me that. So I just think of the positives because I know if I do go in that depression, I mean, if I'm depressed mode or I do feel like, well, let me just do this, then I'm going to be stuck.
21:21It's going to be a hole and I'm going to have to dig myself out of it. And it's like, I don't even want to have to do that. But I know one day I'm going to have to actually sit down and reel in that they actually gone. Because it's like I haven't been having time to even like deal with my nephew, Delph, because it's like he died literally the first month of me rapping. So it's like at that point, it was just like you got to keep pushing, keep pushing. So it's like once I actually do stop and reel it in, probably could not be a time right now because how big I am, I know it's going to put me, you know, in that place.
21:50But I just keep going. Right. like I had a scare last week where my mom got this like kidney infection and she was in the hospital and for a moment it was like I was kind of having to actually think about like what would it be like if you lost your mom it's like probably the person I'm closest to in the world besides my wife and my kid and I was just really like thinking about it I'm like I like how would I be able to process that if I keep working all the time and and doing content and traveling and all this shit like it almost feels like you would have to like take time off to really like let yourself feel it because if i'm doing this shit all day it's just pushing it out of my mind and i feel like that's not healthy yeah i mean i know it's not but it's like where i met in my mentality and me knowing what he meant to me and i know what told it would do i just keep tricking right because if i do and And if I do stop, it ain't going to be no more tricking.
22:48Right. It's going to take a while to keep tricking if I stop tricking. I mean, you got to think like if he was still around, what would he want to see? He'd want to see you blow up and do great things. Yeah, so that's why I'm just trying to at least get to a point where I have a month. So, you know, Ashley did with it. But right now I don't. So I just keep going. Yeah. And especially that's the whole thing about coming up as a rapper is that you don't really know if the opportunities that you have right now are going to be around. And it's a lot. And everybody looking at you and they waiting on you.
23:15not knowing like you know what you're really going to like everybody like see me i'm smiling i'm bubbly but it's like no one really knows and it's like it's not for them to know and i'm like i think i do good like hiding it even though it's not a good thing to hide it but it's just like i mean definitely um so okay like what were your the first song that like i became familiar with was the whim whammy shit but like was that the the first song that that you really it wasn't the first song you made right you made other songs before that or was that the first one that was the first song I actually made and it was like brought out and it was like dropped.
23:48I had recorded before like like I said with my ex-boyfriend but that don't count. To me it don't count. But first song as in like really yeah it was like went with me. And how close were you and Pluto at that time? Was that like your bestie at the time or just kind of made sense to do a song together? No we was close at the time so that's what it is. We was together all the time. So at that time we was homegirls. She was living with me so it was more like a sister thing at that time. So we just like girls that went to the studio and had fun and made a hit. And neither of you were signed at that time?
24:26The song just blows up on its own? No, she was braiding hair and I was a security guard. Wow. So it just takes off out of nowhere. Now you're in the music industry, you know that a lot of the records that take off are kind of blow up because people are putting money behind it. but that really just yeah it wasn't like I think that was one organic like blow up like we literally went to sleep woke up basically famous like we know like we had a mean views on the mic drop we got people texting us about labels people saying hey I want you to do this I want you to do that we like what the fuck right and then we just dropped it so then we like well what the hell we gonna do now so I'm like shit we gonna have to go all the way we gonna go all the way the people fucking with it shit we so I think it was what them boys name
25:11I don't want to say his name wrong But it was the These boys they did music in Atlanta And like we was hanging with them And like we used to go out And like paid the DJ to run it Like you know do that type of shit And it was just like out of nowhere he just blew And then it was just like It went from 250 To 500 To 1000 to 15 And that was just so you're just running around Atlanta trying to perform as much as you possibly can yeah when it first dropped but then as it started the world started you know getting a hook on it it was just like once the label started calling I already knew like this shit is big so and then it was like even with like the marketing like we didn't pay for that marketing we didn't do nothing like everything was just organically going on right so I think that that's what helped that's why I think the stump is so big because it's like we literally did not have no team no push no none of that like it was just me and her and then all of a sudden you're in this position where you got to figure out what the hell is going on and you don't like you know you love music but you don't really know how to get a manager what the labels are hitting you up you never even thought about signing to a label like that you know it's like there's just so many things on the table that you gotta figure out I was already in a little with the industry like just knowing what's going on, shit like that.
26:32So I knew like management, you know, I knew where to go to get the shit. I knew if I, like I'm the type of person that I research some shit quick. Right. So I just was researching and seeing like what the fuck. And then when I realized like a management don't have, it's not like something, it's like somebody. Like you can have a management and it just would be your management. Look, you will want a management that know what they doing. Yeah. But you don't necessarily have to have like somebody that's a manager of a, you know, a rapper. Atlanta is like everybody's uncle wants to manage you or wants to sign you or want like everybody like has this like music industry dream like I feel like the music industry dream is still alive in Atlanta in a way that is not out here where there's just like so many dudes who just like watch the Migos or Metro Boomin or you know everybody future watched all this shit in their lifetime and then that's still their dream is to find a young artist and sign them and make millions of dollars off them.
27:29I assume you were just bombarded with people that wanted to try to do business with you, right? Yeah, but I think it's, I feel like it's a lot of people over here, I feel like this industry is very fucked up. I think money is the root of all evil. And I think that everybody out here trying to feed they sell. So I feel like that's why you got to be cautious on who you make them connections with, who you give this type of information with, who is your team who are part of your team all type of stuff because me honestly being in this industry for a year only i already know the odds of reality like industry music world and then like regular world like they're two big different they're very different like the industry world and real world i feel like two different sides of the world right so it's just making me like no like you got to be cautious like you got to slow down you got to do your research like can't move too fast and you can't trust nobody right so do you do you feel like confident in the decisions that you made in terms of signing in terms of management etc well i didn't sign um you didn't actually sign to a label at all no i didn't um management i thought i made a decision but i didn't so i had to get a new management but okay um yeah like just even with that like it just showed that you can't trust nobody like even with management like it don't even got to be a label so that happened but you know we're moving past that now i got better management now career still elevating so did you see that you and pluto becoming successful at the same time did that start to put stress on the friendship and the relationship right away um no it took a little I feel like, well, me, honestly, I'm the type of person that just read and observe anyway.
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29:25So way before it was kicking off, I had already picked up. I already had got the drift way before it actually happened. So when it happened, I was already mentally prepared for it. So I don't know. You're like the rare person who actually kind of expected to become successful making music. Do you really believe in yourself? No, I did not know I was going to be a rapper. I did not know I was going to get a hit. I did not know my part was going to be, I mean, the biggest part of the song. I did not know these things. I didn't even know I was able to do it, but God said you can. So he put me in a position, and I must say, like, I worked my ass off.
30:01Like, before, I worked my ass off. And it's like I prayed a lot. I asked God to do a lot of things for me, and it was just, I don't know. Like, he just came and did his big one. Right, definitely. So, I mean, but it's like you have such a hard decision in front of you when you blow up on a song with another person. It's like Jeezy and Gucci. Yeah. Where like they do one song together, it takes off, and they both are just such big personalities, such big egos that, you know, within like a couple weeks or a couple months or whatever, they just fell out and then they'd just be for like 20 years. I mean, were you guys trying to move as a unit or were you both like accepting like, hey, we're probably going to have our own management, we're going to sign to separate labels, et cetera?
30:42Was there a thought like we're going to do this together? From my understanding, I thought we were doing it together. Okay. But I don't think that was her plan. But I think that just should have been something that was like blatantly said. But, I mean, it's okay, though. You know, like, I don't think it was a forced thing. I think the duo was a duo that the people wanted to see. But it's like you can't force nobody to be a duo. You can't force nobody to do that. So it's like if she want to take her own path, we're going to let her take her own path. And I'm going to take my own path. yeah because like historically in hip-hop groups just never work they just don't really work and i think this probably was one of the reasons she you know didn't want to do it interesting yeah because like i mean you think about like the migos which r.i.p take off but like that that was like the one group and then obviously quavo and offset were beefing before that so that's obviously like kind of the bigger factor there but they were like unbelievably tight for like 10 plus years before they ended up kind of falling apart and stuff which i mean but they They had blood relations, which that probably helps, you know, knowing each other since you were kids and shit.
31:47But, yeah, historically it's just, like, the hardest thing. I feel like being in a group and making music together, it wouldn't have been a thing. Like, you know, instead of being in a group, just make a lot of music together. Yeah. And it just be, like, a thing, you know. So do you feel blindsided when she kind of, like, distanced herself from you and kind of threw dirt on your name? I was definitely blindsided. Like, well, some of the things that was said after, it was definitely like, I felt like I was blindside. I was confused at that point. Like, I ain't know what the f***. Like, was I there for that?
32:17Because I don't recall that. But other than that, it's like, I'm the type of person that prepared myself for the bullshit before it even happened. So just like I told you, I had already accepted the fact that there was going to be a possibility anyway before because of the energy I was getting. So I didn't have to do that. Or when I was, that's why everybody's like, why she, I don't have to be a degressor. I don't have to do all that. I don't have to do that. It's going to speak for itself like it did. Are you holding on to the possibility of y 'all being cool again? Is that something you even would be open-minded about?
32:48Being cool? I don't backtrack when nobody cross me. Being cordial, I still wish I had the best, things like that, but as in being cool, bringing you back in my story, it would never happen. I would never allow myself to get betrayed again. I'm the type of person that's like, once you do that, yeah, that's over with. you know like we can like you know like no room for forgiveness forgiveness yeah i mean you're still young but i feel like as you get older you might start to see yeah yeah no forgiving process for sure but even with that like if i forgive you still like you're still not going to be in my circle like that's what i'm saying it won't be no bad blood but it's just like you being in my circle or it's being like a thing or do a or friends like i can't do that because it's like then I be faking it.
33:33You know? And it's like, I got to put me first. So it's like, I don't want to make the same mistake again. And it's like, shame on me now. So I just, yeah, just live and learn and just keep going. Does it put kind of like a dark cloud over like some of the music you all did together? Like you still got to perform those songs and it's got somebody's voice on the song. I'm on that song like it's mine. Right, but you don't really care for one of the voices on the song. I don't know. Does that get weird at a certain point? No, it don't get that deep for me. I ain't needing that type of person. He don't get that D.
34:02I still wrap her apart like we made it when we first made it. Because it's just like we all human, bro. And it's like I can't force nobody to be away or I don't know how I want them to be. They how they is. I am how I am. And if that don't combine and works, then that's fine. Life goes on and that's just what it is. If you guys see each other, is it up? No, I already seen her. I was just in the club with her. You just ignore her? Yeah, I just don't see her. I mean I literally was just include her I mean that's the nice thing about girl beef versus guy beef it really wasn't the beef though for real that's the whole gag of it I just I'm gonna stand on business about myself you know what I'm saying I don't f*** around so I mean I just stand on business that's really what it's about and it was just like I was told I couldn't so now I am so that was just the main thing do you think that there was an extent to which she thought that by separating herself from you that your career was just gonna be f***ed up Probably so, but you know, like I said, God did.
35:02Because, okay, so I'm like trying to understand from the outside, and I was watching a clip of Loon and OMB Peasy talking about the situation, and they both seem to think that like. Who's Loon? Loon's the guy who interviewed you from Atlanta. Me? Yeah. It's Up There podcast, I think it's called. He got like the dreads and the jewelry. Oh, him. Oh, okay. Why him? My bad, my bad. What was that, him? No. No, I was watching him and PZ talk about y 'all. And they both seem to, like, really have the opinion that, like, you came out looking better in the situation because of the fact that you seemed more humble, more likable, and that you basically, like, kind of – you never really know when two people separate, like, who the public is going to side with.
35:50But they seem to think that, like, you came out looking better as a result. Yeah, but the thing is, I'm not even that type. Like, I didn't even want nobody in the business. I didn't even want to have to get on no platform Declare my name, make this understanding Show this receipts Like when I told you, I'm not that type of person I don't do that I don't like people in my business So it was just like At that point, I was trying to avoid As long as I can from speaking out Or to even let the world know any sides of the story Like I was okay with No one knowing any just being there But with people just You know, doing certain things You just got to you know so but I don't like this shit it would be nice to be the kind of public personality or the kind of artist who has issues with people has beef with people and then never really has to talk about it like some people are kind of able to do that like you know even like one thing that always blows my mind with Drake is the fact that you know obviously he had like a million girls throughout his career and shit and I never heard any of them really come for him like somehow like that just seems impossible like to with like thousands of girls and have none of them like air you out in a TikTok no he just got the understanding he let them hoes know that's what he's doing well yeah I've heard that that there's an NDA involved with any of them but I mean a lot of people don't care about NDAs but apparently maybe his NDA is the super NDA probably but it would be nice like for you to be the kind of artist that never has to speak about how you fell out with the girl that you came in the game with but yeah I think that just goes on both parties and it just shows you where that friendship or relationship was really was.
37:30Like, I feel like, like, even when it come down to, like, homegirls, if I'm not, like, I don't have homegirls. I feel like we, like, no one, they won't even know if we was talking or not. Like, they don't know we talking or not and then you got girls that go to the end and they make sleep for the middle. Like, it be different so you just gotta know, like, you know who really for you and who ain't. That's what it is. Like, I feel like anybody that runs to the end or not with anything is just like, bro, you not, you ain't really with what we got going on anyway because why do you even want anybody and not being what we got going on to even get and another thing people be wanting opinions and they want to make it feel like they're not wrong and if somebody else is telling them that even if it's five comments, six comments it make them feel better because it's like okay I have somebody on my side so I think that's where a lot of the internet interaction become from because somebody wants somebody to tell them that they're not wrong knowing they're that wrong and they know it's always two sides of the story and the internet gonna pick a side so that's the whole game well that's the crazy part about being a public figure is that there's been many times where i have an argument with somebody on a podcast and then we cool like right after shake hands take a picture or whatever and then the comments start to come in and if it feels like a lot of the comments feel like they were acting like a bitch or i was trying to hoe them out or some shit that i can just see how that like really starts to affect them mentally and all of a sudden their opinion on the situation is like completely different than the way it felt right afterwards I think that's the problem I don't know why people let people And then my thing with the whole internet And the comments shit It be like majority of them people don't even be people And half of the people that's even on your level It be kids, it be people that don't even got no eye It be people that this, that, that Why we like don't even get that That's why I read all the comments I don't give a f*** about none of them I see I read the good ones and the bad ones It's just like bro I don't know these people And it's like bro who gives a f*** their comments Like we're in real life Instagram is a hell of another world that is not reality that is fairytale.
39:21So it's just like, I don't even get how the internet and comments really run this shit and really ruin everything for somebody. Like, it's crazy. I mean, it's interesting talking to you. You seem very grounded because you're talking about the internet and the comments like it's this other thing that other people get sucked into, whereas a lot of people, especially young people, that's just everything. Everything is interwoven with the comments and they can't really see that as being like separate. Like it's just comments. Yeah, it's not like, it's not reality. Like these people don't know you from a can of paint.
39:54Like these people is projecting whatever they want to project even if it's off them. Like, why the hell you worry about? Like literally. Like this girl probably be seven year old. You stay in Oregon with a seven year old girl. Just in her bed you want to do shit. You are in Oregon with a bone that came back in my dollar cheeseburger. Like, come on man. Right. But do you think part of that is because okay, A, you had like a pretty normal life prior to the fame and everything but then also you said that you have this really strong family unit. So you have like a different type of love and like human connection to real people that you're actually blood with.
40:27And so then, you know, the internet might seem kind of silly in comparison. It's just not as important as like real human connection. Yeah, I mean, I feel like the internet love you one day and the next day they don't depending on what's going on in the situation. And I just feel like when it comes to that, that's why you got to know how to renew and what to do when it comes to those types of situations. And you got to know, even if that happens, you gotta still stand tall on what you know and you believe in what you know you didn't do or did not say like people let people drag them in it off comings like people going depression all type of stuff like all of the comments on instagram all because what people saying about them like who gives a yeah like for real who gives right definitely you got to be able to separate yourself from that you got to be able to and you got to have thick skin yeah you have to have people in your life that don't know or really give a about your you know drama from the music industry or the internet or whatever you know people that that's not the most important thing to them well either i mean all the way around like because i think everybody like just down to my situation everybody got like they intake on it but in reality even down to all the comments like the ones on their side the ones on my side like no one knows the depth of it so it's like even then it's like okay like i with the people for having my bag but it's like that shit was way deeper than what it was.
41:41But it's like, there's not nothing I'm finna say. There's not nothing I feel should be put out there because there's nobody business. Right, because you know. I know on my behalf I was good. If you were to do an interview where you just aired out all kinds of little messy shit that the world don't know about, you know, that would probably be like pretty viral and everything like that. Yeah, and I don't want to be the person that make the person the bad guy or none of that. Or I don't want to be the person that be the cause of something or cause this. Like if they see it, that's like if it come down to like based off all that, it was just like they seen it.
42:15They ran with it and they moved off how they feel. Like my intention was to never get her this or have her this or that was never like I just want to let people know on my behalf. Like that's bullshit. There's like a song on YouTube with a couple hundred thousand views that's labeled Pluto this by you. Is that just like a song that they. Me? Yeah. I got a this. I mean, that's what it says. But then when I listen to it, I'm like. Is it me on there? Yeah, but it's like the lyrics could kind of be interpreted either way. Like, you might just be talking about any old girl. What I was saying. I don't remember.
42:46I never made a D's. That's crazy. You didn't? I got it in my history. Right here. I'm not sure how that works. I got to hear that stuff. It's, uh, where is it right here? What'd you say? Watch that D morning? Huh? You said watch the D morning? I did actually watch it this morning. Yeah. When I was just watching a bunch of stuff that kind of stood out to me. That's weird. It's not. Hmm? I don't know. Yes. I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bad baby. Nope. Yeah. What? Bitch on pressure. Body hole broken. This is this one.
43:22But it has Pluto diss in the title. Oh, wait. Oh, OK. Yeah. That is that. No, they want to diss. Wait. Yeah, they want to diss. OK. Because I was listening to it thinking like the lyrics could kind of. What is that? What lyric you sing? I don't know. I was just talking about some bitch you don't like, I guess, basically. Yes, maybe. It could kind of be about a lot of people, I assume. Got a nigga down the road. I put it in a ladder. When you get in the booth, does it, like, motivate? Like, you know, you rap, but you got to, like, kind of go off the shit that, like, actually means something to you, right?
43:55Do you, like, ever feel like you want to rap? It depends on the mood. It depends on what's going on. It just depends on what I want to make today type shit. i feel like i understand why people like uh metro or belly gang cushington like why they with you because you kind of got like an old soul you're a little like gangster like you're not on like some new school weirdo type timing
44:22i probably could have said that in a more eloquent way but what do you mean weirdo i mean you know a lot of young people are just weird i'm not weird am i weird a lot of your peers are weird and they're just like weird drama focused social media psychopaths I feel like I can understand why they like your energy and they want to support you I think I'm a real ass bitch I think it's rare for someone like me to come around and I feel like I'm like a real nigga like I'm the realest nigga you know like nigga like male like I'm the realest nigga so I say I'm the realest nigga why what's wrong with men these days they just not real really they just some bullshit actually really yeah what's wrong with men though they just they're liars and manipulators yeah but okay they don't know how to take accountability for shit but lying and manipulating a woman is different than lying and manipulating your homeboy right or from your perspective is it the same i think not really well I think it's on a level of being the same but like lying to your partner and lying to your homeboy is like I would hope it was like too different cause I've known guys throughout my life who like seem like great humans like really trustworthy you could count on them etc and then when you look at their life with women it's like oh you're like the biggest piece of shit ever yeah so when you see it like that it's like yeah cause it's like well if that's the case then how would it work with me?
45:53Like me and your homeboy. Why would I believe that you're not going to slime me out the same way you did someone else you know? Yeah but I think it depends on how he doing it with the female. Like regardless of cheating I just feel like that's just what men do. But like actually deep into it things what he did between the cheating or around it is where you get to say like raise your eye at him. Okay if you're cool with the dude and then you find out that he's beating the out of his girl. Are you still cool with him or is it hard to balance that? No I'm not with that. I don't with people like that.
46:28I probably like still I'm not gonna say I dislike you as in just like oh I hate you but like you don't have my respect and it's like we would never be you know but like if you see me you say hey I'm gonna say what's up. I mean there's some people are in like relationships where it seems like they just they just hurt each other. Yeah I don't know no man that beat on women. But it's another thing when he's victimizing the woman. It's really on some cruel shit. Because I do know some couples where it just seems like they're just so toxic that this is just what they do. But the thing be the female, though.
46:58That would make it hard because a nigga can do all that and they go back. So it put you in a standpoint like, what the fuck? What are I supposed to do now? So that's another issue, too. I feel it. Because they go back. Definitely. Who's the coolest female rappers you've met since you've been in the game? Like ones that you were just really impressed by? Cardi B. Oh, you got to spend some time with her? Yeah, I love the sister. She's amazing, right? Mm-hmm. Yes, I love her. She's the realest bitch, right? Yeah. You got to love her. Yeah, I do. Have you ever talked to her about doing a song or anything?
47:31Yeah. We working on it now. Really? Wow. Yeah. That's exciting. I'm ready to get that back. That could be life-changing. Yeah. I'm excited. Definitely. How did the Bad Baby song come together? She hit me up and wanted to work. Really? She was my first feature, actually, after, wasn't any of them with me?
47:53Did I have any? Oh, okay. Well, yeah. She was, like, my first, I'd say, first feature from, like, outside artists. Because, like, me and Bona was already close, already knew each other. So that was different. But, like, it was her, then Take Me Through There, then Friend Do. Okay, McGates. Who else I did feature with? Cash Go Bangs. Who else?
48:30Hey! This man crazy and fuck. Anyways. It was like, was Bad Baby like your first white friend? No. Was she? I had a white boyfriend before. really when i was young so i was in the back of school but kissing on him damn yeah could he handle you i don't know we want i was young so i wasn't doing all that i just was kissing at that time that's it was he like a a regular ass white boy or was he kind of no he was cool he was cool
49:08you see that dude uh suburban dude that i interviewed uh he's like a white former GD from Atlanta. Let me see. Oh, he's hilarious, this guy. You know what I'm talking about? No. Oh, shit. But I keep seeing him go viral because people can't believe that Atlanta produced this motherfucker because he's just... I mean, if you just heard him and you didn't see him, you would never think he was going to be a white boy. But he got that soul. What do you do? He rap or something? He mostly just like... He GD? I guess he was GD. and then not anymore why he got no tattoos on his face i mean he's a gangster i guess yeah i don't know he's talking shit about her oh okay good good he said no oh i've been saying call his ass yeah yeah we're gonna we're gonna have to pack him out yeah for sure um yeah because all right i'm gonna i'm gonna lie like that bad baby video i guess i just like hadn't really like been following her that closely for the last few years but like I interviewed her when she was probably 14 or 15 and then I'm watching that video and like I just couldn't believe yeah we took that took a lot of money and a lot of time I had fun making that video it was a high quality video for sure yeah well they spent a lot of money on that they did okay it looked expensive it was yeah I had fun though do you guys stay in touch I haven't talked to her in a minute how do you feel about you might jump over the table over this one but Atlanta maybe has a little bit of an image crisis at this point people calling it Ratlanta okay does that personally offend you or bother you in any way do you think that that's an accurate nickname I honestly don't give a it's that nickname is not stemming from anything involving you so and I'm damn sure ain't no rat and I'm damn sure ain't no nigga that's telling so I don't give a damn what they call they got them but I mean shit the people do be telling shit but I don't have no fear for it cause I'm not the snitch right so the game has changed cause like six seven years ago you couldn't really like think of any rappers that had really snitched that you know and now it's like feel like we find out everybody snitching but I mean that what happened yeah yeah you ever have somebody snitch in your life that you had to cut off?
51:38Yeah. Really? Yeah. Like snitch as in like criminal wise or like just snitch? Yeah. Like either way. I mean, yeah, you could like snitch to the principal or something. Oh, I actually was in a situation with an old friend and first of all, I was not a part of the crime, but I definitely was a part of it when they pulled my ass over and he tried to make it seem like it was a group activity and we did it together and we definitely did not do shit together. Your ass going down by yourself. Yeah. Police pulled me over, pulled the guns out, all type of shit. You were carrying a bunch of firearms? No.
52:17No, I didn't carry no firearms. At that time, I didn't have a gun. Right. But now I do. But I didn't have a gun then. That's just part of life in Atlanta? Yeah, I was just, yeah, we actually, what did he do? Oh, stealing. He was stealing. I'm sure he was. The people were stealing, and people came to get us. so did you have a criminal history i never been to jail i actually just went to fucking jail lord have mercy for fto fto oh fta fta what's that it's up here it's nothing it's nothing i'm not a criminal i don't do shit okay i might be the whole book that's about it but they locked you up for what like a day or two no i got out oh just right away yeah i thought i was gonna spend the night Oh, baby.
53:02Oh, baby. It's so nasty in that gym. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's so nasty. Yeah, I mean, spending the night's got to be, like, the worst part. Yeah, I was there for, like, seven hours. Oh, okay. When I was back. You getting love in there? Yes. They was actually pissing me off because this is not the time for that. And they made me take my scarf off. My hair was fucked up. I was ready to go to fuck home. I had FIFA the next day, BET coming up. Like, I killed 10 little, listen, I got FIFA tomorrow. So, you know, whatever we got to do, please. Please do it. Because I can't miss FIFA. But yeah, I got out there like three in the morning.
53:35FIFA, like, you wanted to go to a soccer game? No, I performed. Oh. At the FIFA. Oh, that's dope. The World Cup. Oh, wow. In Atlanta. You know what it is? I'm like vaguely aware. Yeah, look like you. Yeah, look like you. Well, I mean, I know that there's like a FIFA is like a soccer league or some shit. Yeah, I performed. Damn, how was that? Like 20 ,000 in front of that. 20 ,000? 20 ,000. You said 3 ,000. She said 20 ,000. It was 20 They literally made a whole post
54:10Oh okay Cause they're a little like Yeah They look like 20 ,000 people Wait was 20 ,000 people there though
54:20They said no the first The day that me and Kush performed They said it was 20 ,000 people there I don't give a damn 20 ,000 of them bitches Anyways was that a crazy experience though because it's got to be different than performing just in front of your fans at a show right like i done been on big stages i'd have been in the the state forum five times last year really so and it's like different every time with a different artist some artists had more some artists had less but what the arena hole kush i mean oh shit kush is not here
54:59how'd you get tight with him that's an interesting combination you call him Kush I call him Belly Gang Kush at some point you gotta shorten that I call him Belly Gang Kush too they just text me my aunt and I was just like this man wants you to get on his song they played the song I didn't know who it was I played it I was like oh shit and then I got on the song and that was it. Right. But that was like one of your biggest songs now right? Yeah it did. I think we did the video and then we got closer from the video because we seen each other in person. So from there we've just been close since the video shoot.
55:35Right. Nasdub. I like that pairing. Have you had a boyfriend since you've been in the game? Hmm.
55:47Did you ever date Kush? No. No. that's like a rumor online people feel like you guys got chemistry we do got chemistry but not relationship chemistry i don't date him what you just gotta use him for what he's worth what he's worth no we cool that's my dog like i don't date him but it feels like you're leaving something out of this how am i leaving something out i don't think you guys just hook up what did you talk about right now i'm just wondering i'm trying to figure out where you going with these? I'm trying to shut the internet up. They think y 'all are dating. I just told you I'm not dating that damn man.
56:26Okay. It's not that kind of energy? No, I'm saying like I'm just saying I don't date him. Okay. Like, I just, yeah. Okay. Why you looking at me like that? I'm just curious. What's your type? I don't have a type. I ain't got no type. Like, if I fuck with you and you fuck with me and that's just what it is just what it is but he can't be what white? No I just told you I had a white boyfriend I know that was a long time ago you said you were in high school yeah I don't give a damn but yeah I don't really it's not like cause I don't want to say like I can't say I don't want no broke nigga and I don't want no broke nigga no manipulator I don't want none of them.
57:20So I don't know, that's when I say that. It just depends on who the person is and how they make me feel and how it happens. For real, for real. Do you think that you would do better with an artist who was living a similar lifestyle to you or more of a regular guy? Dating a regular guy in this lifestyle is very hard. Yeah. Because, well even niggas in the industry, everybody just be having a lot going on. Everybody be mad about this, mad about that, this and this. Like, just for instance, like the Kush scenario. Like, nobody knew. They know if I make Danish man or not. Like, everybody running with it.
57:56Like, so if I had a boyfriend, he would... He's gonna have to be strong mentally to deal with all the comments. They don't... Because his Instagram is gonna blow up with nasty ass troll fans saying, hey, your bitch is belly gang. Exactly. And you're gonna have to be hard-headed enough to... Oh! nigga's not strong enough for that so they got a clip that that was crazy
58:28bro what the fuck nigga's not strong enough for that so no that was cool that was that was a good moment i've never seen anything like that on here um shit okay so uh yeah i don't know i mean i guess we're like part of what they always want to know is like do you have writers? Do you get help in the studio? Yeah, for sure. Do you ever do songs that are just all you beginning to end? I have done one. I have a dumb song but me, honestly, I feel like making a hit is a group effort thing. So it's like even with people who write their own shit, they still have help. It's not a real hit that's actually made and it wasn't a team effort.
59:12You feel what I'm saying? So I get in there, I put my little thing on it where I get in there and I like, oh, catch this and you know, my end. Because at first, I had like one person that helped me write but then I was like, it's been like, so I started trying different people, like all types of stuff. Right. Because rap is like the only style of music where people really are committed to pretending that they're the only person making the music. That shit be bullshit. In the pop world, everybody acknowledges it, that people work with. Even the people who are most known, Taylor Swift is notorious for writing her own shit, but she's open about working with writers in the studio as well.
59:54But even when it comes down to people who write their own shit, you're going to have somebody in their studio. I don't know, some people work by themselves. But when I go in there, I go as a teen. And I'm a teen person. I love my people around me. So I just love to do everything with the people I care for anyway. So for me, it's just organically happen all together. Like I need to go off the vibe in the room. I need to go off like what's going on in the day, like something. So for me, it's just like everybody bring your ass to the studio and we finna have a good time. Like Lil Mama I just dropped, like that was like something we went to the studio.
1:00:28I'm like, y 'all, I want to make something hit. Like we got drunk, you know, everybody start doing what they doing, like, and we made, and they helped me. Do you always get drunk in the studio? I don't get drunk in the studio, but I be drinking. At least a little bit. Huh? A little bit of liquor to help things get started. Yeah. So shit like that. I let my sisters and all them like give me certain type of things to say or just even one word. And then I just form a lyric around it, like whatever it is. So with me, I don't know. I feel like it's better that way. your music is very like energy oriented I feel like you know it seemed like you're having fun on songs so I feel like it only makes sense that you're turning up in the studio a little bit right?
1:01:17it been plenty of days when I made Friendu I didn't have the best energy I didn't want to do it that day they forced me to the studio oh his team says the last day you gotta do it like it was not I literally went to the studio irritated mad like I only need in the mood like I was ready to get over it so that's why I was even surprised that it became one of my biggest hits because when I made it it wasn't even like high sound on the record was not the mood at all it wasn't none of that like I was irritated the vibe was off but I was in work mode so it sound like that because I had to deliver it but yeah I did not want to be there at all but that's crazy because like artists do so much shit to try to like create that vibe in the studio like they get fucked up they got all their homies they got girls around like dudes are in the studio they're wearing you know two thousand dollar shoes and shit even though realistically they could be making music in their pajamas and it would sound exactly the same but they really just want to like do everything they possibly can to create that good energy and then you're saying that that song like didn't feel great when you were making it but then it just still worked yeah it was a hard song i just didn't want to be there i was tired actually they drugged me out my bed so yeah i did though because it was like damn like i hadn't had plenty of songs with like better energy right definitely um and you know i i feel like it's an interesting dynamic where like i'm watching some of your videos and some of your videos have like you know 10 20 strippers with crazy bbls in the video That was Cliff's video.
1:02:53Right, but you're like in the video, right? Yeah, but that was his study. Is that more his type? Yeah, he love big booty bitches. Right. You too? Yeah. You like girls? No. Not relationship-wise or anything? No, I think girls are pretty. I think girls have big booties, but I don't like women. Okay, that's good. Well, actually, I don't care, but it's good to clarify that. Yeah. Okay. A lot of girls will go, like a lot of, every time I go to the club, It be somebody, a script, some stripper trying to get me. Really? Them hoes be trying to kiss me, all types of stuff. Like, what's wrong with y 'all hoes?
1:03:29Zero interest? You could never hook up with a girl? No. I ain't never said I haven't never hooked up with a girl. Aha. Okay. But I'm just saying, like, I don't like girls. Right. Like, yeah. I haven't kissed a girl before. Really? Yeah. Was it exhilarating? What you mean, like? Was it fun or was it? Oh, yeah, it was fun. Indifference. It was fun. Okay. If you had a man Long term No threesomes Never Not mine for sure You just are too jealous or No I don't like this shit First of all What I look like Sitting here watching you Fuck this hoe Or none I don't have time for all that Some girls like that shit If anything you sit your ass right here And we fuck each other But you thinking we finna be No this is not a sausage party baby We not finna be doing all that Bro no And I just feel like Why you wanna do that with me Like I feel like somebody that's really in a relationship with me and them and it's like bro, no.
1:04:25If we want to just stay for inside a honeymoon, we just want to decide to trust them. And you say, hey, bae, I want to see this. That's different. But you thinking you're feeling JB, nah, I ain't doing all that. It ain't even not about the jelly. It's just like, I'm not needing that type of... First of all, I'm already selfish. That's my dick. We don't know this hoe, what this hoe been, how many niggas she's f***ing right now. We don't know none of that. So it's like... Gotta test them. Why we even... But it's like, who finna do all that just have sex? Like, nobody doing all that. Like, for real.
1:04:53And if she gets tested, realistically, you're not gonna get the results for, like, at least a day. You know what I'm saying? Like, you gotta all that. She probably gonna fuck some other random people during that time period. Just have sex? Like, that's a lot. Like, I feel like if you want some shit when you just wanna be a free bitch and you just wanna do it and somebody else asking you, well, go on, sister. But me and my man, hell no. I would like to ask you this question again in 10 years, because I feel like people get freakier as they get older. No, that's what I'm saying. No, what I'm telling you, I'm telling you how it will happen.
1:05:21Okay. I told you, I'm going to be f***ing her and he's going to be watching. And the only thing he ain't do, he's going to be doing it to me. I still, I feel like you might have a phase in your life where you get a little more open-minded. I definitely would never want to see my man f***ing nobody else. Like, it's no, it's nothing in the word that make me want to watch that. I mean, to be fair, that is probably like 97 % of women would agree with that. Yeah, I'm not doing that. But if he want to watch. I'm around the host. If he just want to have a little spice it up a little bit, I can get you a show, baby.
1:05:50I can get you a show with this old. Really? Yeah. You just sit tight. Sit tight is crazy. For real. So, yeah. That's funny. Okay. But the reason why I was asking about you doing videos where you got 10 BBL bitches in it is that, like, we're so used to seeing girls come in the rap game and then, boom, they get their body done, do all that. Are you ever going to do that kind of transformation or is that just not you? No. I feel like if that's something I really want to do Then I'm going to work to do it I'm going to actually put in the work to do that I'm going to go do different things Eat different things Work out, do the things to actually get what I want But it's like Even like that is like I'm coming to understand I'm in So for me it's like Why change for y 'all You know what I'm saying Obviously if I want to do that I'm going to do that But me just saying oh well I'm gonna do this because the world said this or a female that looked my size never got this far or a female like no I'm gonna do if I do do it's gonna be on my own time because I want to do it but even then I feel like I'm the type of person I like to do shit that make me feel like I actually earned it you know what I'm saying so if I want to lose weight and get a fit body I'm gonna actually put in the work in to do it I'm not gonna go pay somebody to put shit in my body but when it comes to the girls who've got like a waist this big and then their ass is like two basketballs I feel like that's not there's no diet that's going to get you there but it's like it's all about everybody want to be approved by someone else and want to be the image and want to look like the next person because they see the next person in the comments or the love that the next person get or what the men like replay to like you be true to yourself I promise you it's going to come like that's it that's all like it's plenty big girls out here that's doing it that's having it men it don't matter the size.
1:07:38It just matters how you carry yourself. Yeah. No, I respect that for sure. But it does, you know, it feels like a lot of people kind of get on in the rap game and they're fat or whatever and then, like, I'm thinking about Paul Wall. I'm thinking about OJ's juice man, even though I know that OJ, I think, had health problems at one point. But, like, they came in the game, they're hot, they're fat, and then as soon as their career starts to maybe struggle or whatever, boom. Body transformation. That's, like, another way to reinvent yourself in the people's minds, you know? I think the thing like with me I'm on some shit like I know my career is gonna get bigger I know it's gonna be times where I have to go and do a two hour set and I have to do this and I gotta do that so I know at the time it's gonna be like you don't have to sit like right now I'm on the road too much to do that like you know what I'm saying but I always you know going and doing a little shit like I don't run from it but it was just like that's something that's just gonna be a thing like that's when I know like right now we had BET we got all these things like I just went to the road and I had to perform like it's gonna get just bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger so it's like at a standpoint it's like once you work on yourself it's just gonna come with it like the weight and all that it's all gonna play a role but me forcing it because another that's the image or that's what the people wants to see or that's what they used to seeing like it will never be there.
1:08:58Yeah and I feel like people like you for just being really really yourself I don't think they look at the weight when they see me Yeah you don't gotta conform And it's like I'm not a big ass bitch It's just like oh shit So it's like I've lost a lot of weight in my life over and over Like multiple times where I lost like 30 pounds or whatever But I can't really imagine Doing that while like traveling And having to be That's gotta be tough Once that part come And I can actually do that It's like yeah I'm gonna do it because I know doing this, I'm going to have to be able to do those type of things.
1:09:34I'm going to have to be able to get on the stage and, you know, have breath control, like all type of shit. So even though I do a good-ass job with my six, I don't want to be tired, but yeah. Definitely. If you got pregnant right now, would you have the kid?
1:09:54I don't want to have to kill my baby, man. Your first hat. For real. Yeah, you don't want to have to do that, huh? That's a hard one. Because I really don't. But it's like where I'm at in my career, before I do that, I want to definitely be stable in where I need to be. I feel like I'm still going to the top of the chamber now. Yeah. And I don't want that to slow me down. So it's like, yeah, I wouldn't want to wait. But it's like, I probably would have my kid. Just because I feel like I'm stable enough. It just wasn't the plan. Yeah. But it's like, I'm at my peak of my career. And I know that's not what I need.
1:10:29Right. But I don't want to live with killing my child. Right. That's probably what make me want to have it. Yeah. I mean, we've kind of seen like a bunch of girls have babies and be able to basically like, look at Sexy Red. I feel like I don't even know when the she had that baby because it didn't feel like a slow shit down at all. Yeah. She was just right back at it. I don't know. I feel like I'll be able to do it, but it's just the mentality of just having to do that because then it's not my world no more. It's our world. Right. So it's like the thing that I do now, I won't be able to do because one thing about me, I'm going to be there for my child.
1:11:00It ain't going to be no time. I'm out of town three weeks, four weeks. Like, no, I'm going to have to find somebody. My baby going to have to be like, I'm going to have to orchestrate my whole world around her or him. So it's like, the way I'm in, it's like the way I move now, I'm too busy to even think I'm going to be having my child doing all that. You know, so it's like, I'm just, I think about all that. I feel it. What big moves do you want to make throughout like the rest of 2026 as far as your career and everything? What do you feel like you got to do to take it to yourself? I want to go number one.
1:11:29I'm finna drop this album. One of them bitches gotta go number one. Not one, two, one. Shit, three of them. But my goal is at least one to go number one. That's what's up. From just starting off my career solo-wise. Because I got this fire off of just collabing and doing other things. So my goal next is to make my own hit and make it go number one by myself. Okay. So you're cooling off on the collaborations or are you still open-minded about it? No, for one, that makes sense for me. and my brand. But other than that, I'm not focused on collaborating, doing features. It's somebody calling for a feature every day.
1:12:08Money on the table every day for features. But it's just like, I'm not trying to get nobody here. I need to get myself one. That's real. So that's what I'm doing right now. I seen a tweet the other day that said that women took over the rap game and then fast forward a couple years and the rap game is colder than it's ever been before. I honestly do feel like before Win Whammy like it was cold like I don't remember it being this jump this lit this much music like it would be in the same originals like on replay like it wasn't like I feel like Win Whammy inspired a whole lot of people to do that to take the chance to go in the studio to do that like all these upcoming artists is like it was nothing like Win Whammy came And I think they just opened the door to say, like, let me try this.
1:12:58I can do this, too, because it happened organically. And it was like, we wasn't there in the music. We were just two girls doing it. So he just made others like, if they can do it, we can do it. And I feel like, and that made me feel good because it's like, I'm glad I can inspire people to actually try to do it. Right. And now we got a whole list of females right now. Right. That's doing this shit. That you want to shout out? The people might not necessarily. I'm going to be. My sister. Shout out to her. Tell her to pull up here So burn your ass I'ma press that later But okay so Bunnaby Who to me Like I think of her What's his name?
1:13:38Fat Smack He got that song Oh yeah Fat Smack I was calling him like Hard NAR Oh I was talking about Hard Head They changed his name on like the songs Yeah it's Hard NAR It was Hard NAR then he changed it to Fat Smack right okay so yeah honestly probably a good idea because Hard NAR is kind of a weird not really because they got a Fat Mac is it Fat Smack a Fat Mac Smack I think no they got a Fat Mac too oh yeah that was the difference they had somebody that got a familiar like close name okay for sure but y 'all are the the next generation of Atlanta which is important yeah for sure I ain't gonna lie he had he got him two good ones running over this shit right now for sure alright anybody else you want to shout out Anything else we need to know?
1:14:25Yeah, I want to shout out my team. I want to shout out my management. I want to shout out everybody. I need to shout out the belly gang, Banda, Metro, Brisky, Kevin Gates, Bad Baby, anybody, Quavo. Hold on.
1:14:48Cut that shit up, Quay. Quay Global. There you go. I just got to make sure I don't miss nobody. Let me see. Oh, Boss Man D-Lo. How about Boss Man D-Lo? I already said Kevin Gates. Black Queen. Glorilla. Yes. DaBaby for sure. Zeddy Will. Lizzy Glow. Bit Boogie. Yeah, all them. Definitely. Everybody. There we go. And my mother. I love you so much, Mom. Aw, I love that. How old was your mom? 42 literally my itch you're 42 yeah
1:15:29just like looking for the wrinkles and shit yeah and lucky you could be in your 30s yeah definitely lucky you'd be in your 30s yeah I live a very youthful lifestyle I think I'm out here hanging out talking to rappers I ain't gonna lie man I heard about you heard what? oh the porn shit all the shit oh god damn oh yeah you don't f*** around actually I'm just saying you see my footage no sir oh okay why the fuck would I look at this stuff I don't want to see this you're a human being oh no I don't look at this stuff no I think black women are kind of curious about what white men are packing what you be doing huh y 'all always be having threesomes a lot y 'all try foursomes that's just a lot we've done orgies but it's you don't like that you like the three two on better than three I mean the orgies are just weird because it's one camera and then you got like eight people it's kind of like the camera's not seeing everybody at once.
1:16:20So I got a question. It's one male and four fucking, like, just say natural female. One male and four bitches. Like, where is everybody's job when there's only one of you? Are two on making out the other one sucking your dick? Like, what's going on? because at a certain point, it's like, what are they doing? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So it's like, do they like rotate or something? Have you ever had that? Yeah, I've had that, but, you know. You like that? Sure, yeah. The more the merrier, really, but, yeah. So like, what was it? honestly the one i'm thinking of in my head was like the last time i ever got f***ed up uh new year's 2019 i had like me and like four or five girls in a hotel room and a couple of them like had dudes they were supposed to link with and then the dudes ghosted them so i just had to handle everybody and uh that was the last time i ever did uh you know any any of the drugs you got to put up your nose rotating them in was they making out with each other like what was the whole yeah but you know at a certain point it's like okay this is a little too much it's like four people on a song like it's cool but you don't need that right right that's a lot going on like there's literally a lot going on at a certain point it might be better to just have two people on the song right right how many four people can make a hit they can but at a certain point it just feels like okay like a lot going on you're still rapping okay well yeah all right for sure hey yk niece big fan appreciate you it was great meeting you you're a good soul i like your personality You're going to go far in this game for sure.
1:17:41Thank you. So much respect and best of luck in all your future endeavors. Thank you. Y 'all tune in. Y 'all go listen to Little Mama I Just Drop for the summertime. And albums coming very soon. Love y 'all. There it is. YK Niece. No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. Check us on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram. Wait, was I looking at the wrong camera the whole time? No, you just got to look at me for the most part. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. I just do the outro with the camera. I thought it was the camera right here this whole time. No. Like for real. We got a bunch of cameras. Yeah, that's your main camera.
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