Dr Motox: Facelifts In Your 30s & The TRUTH about Injectables

29:15Olivia Attwood:So for me, it was like using a very low percentage chair and I just use it like every three, every third night. I basically put it in and I pack a heavy moisturizer on top. And that's how I do it. That works. Could I up it a little bit? Yeah. Okay. What, every night? If you can. Really? That's the idea. That's the one-time plan. Let's bring it back. Like what is a TRET or a retinoid for people that don't know? So people don't know. So a retinol is a vitamin A. So vitamin A comes in lots of different strengths. So you can get it as a retinol, a retinal, and a tretinoin. Okay. It's all the same thing.

29:50Olivia Attwood:It's all the same thing. Now, if you put retinol on your face, your body turns it into retinal and then turns it into tretinoin and then it uses it to do whatever it's doing. And we'll come to what it does because it's very important. So you can get it in any of those forms. The higher you go, the stronger it is because your body is converting it less and less. Retinols, I don't really like generally because how much your body converts the retinol to a tretinoin is very unpredictable. So that, for me, kind of stays at the door. So if we're doing Olivia's house thing staying at the door, that's our goal.

30:20At the door, not on the list. The next things are retinols and tretinoins. Okay. Retinols, I love. If someone's got a sense of skin, they're scared about using retinols, scared about putting those kind of things on your skin, you start with a retinol. Okay. Now, every brand seems to be making their retinol nowadays. Every brand. A load of them are a load of rubbish. We won't name them. Okay. But some of them are incredible. Okay. And the ones that are incredible are the ones that have a ladder of strength from very weak to very strong, which means someone who's got super sensitive skin should be on retinol, but they should start on the really low one.

30:52Olivia Attwood:Okay. Those ones, you'd start like twice a week initially. You work your way up until you're using it every night, and then you go up higher and higher and higher. Like Medicaid, for example, do the best retinols on the market. Like Medicaid. There is no better retinol on the market, in my opinion. Because they do a ladder of strength from super weak to super street. So you can decide if you want to be beginner level or expert level. Don't start on expert. If you're going to start your journey, just start low, start slow. And just listen to your skin. So you'll put it on. If you go dry, stop using it for a couple of days.

31:21Absolutely fine. Then start using it again. You can put a bit of moisturizer on top to hydrate on top of it. Fine. I prefer without.

31:29Olivia Attwood:Oh, do you? Because it's like a medication. so you put it on your skin if you put anything on top it buffers it so for example the Medicaid ones are crystal retinols they go like 1, 3, 6, 10, 20 so if you're using a 6 and you're putting some moisturiser on it you might be actually using it as a 3 if that makes sense so those are lovely and then when you work your way up then ideally I do like to get people on tretinone so tretinone is the prescription level vitamin A and they get that in clinic it comes in like a little tube it comes in a little tube you have to get it from your clinic and that that i can always tell if someone's using tretinoin because when they come into clinic they've got that shine they've got that glow and that is from tretinoin but you have to work your way up again if you if someone's got a really problematic like acne pigmentation skin i will put them straight on tretinoin and we just go through the journey of a little bit of dryness and redness that you start like using twice a week and then you slowly increase that ideally most of my very well-behaved clients will be on it every night if i can get them to every night and what does it do for the skin what is this active like behaviors that we want so out of all the research there is it's the this the only one that's proven to be anti-aging wow yes and because what it does is it increases your skin cell turnover which means how long it takes for that new baby skin that's just been made to come off to the surface and show off so at the age of 20 it takes about 20 days for that skin that's been created to come and show off which means in 20 days not much happened to it it's hydrated it's smooth it's glowing at the age of 60 it takes 60 days for that skin that's just been created to come all the way through which means it's had time to come damaged pigmented dry so it's cell turnover basically cell turnover so how quickly those cells are being made the quicker the cells are made the smoother things look yeah so it really increases that so someone at the age of 60 i won't be able to get you down to 20 it's impossible no but you can i can get it down to like 40 days yeah so at 60 your age can be looking 40 which is fantastic but you have to be consistent and you have to start now today's the day if you're not using it today is the day watching get yourself on a retinel or a trap from a doctor exactly led masks yes we obviously love the shark ones we love it like let's do some a bit of myth debunking what do you love them for as a doctor as a skincare expert what are you what do you kind What are their pros that you say to your clients, look, you need to get yourself one of these?

33:57So when I've got someone in clinic, there's six things I tell them about. So number one is Botox. I don't care who you are. Botox makes you look better. That's number one. Number two are skin boosters. Profilo, polynucetides, whatever, give you a little bit of hydration. Number three are facials. Number four are supplements, which I'm sure we'll come back to. Number five is the devices. so in particular led masks i love an led mask the reason i love it is because how it works what it does it energizes all the cells that heal the skin right yeah so we've got lots of different layers of the skin the red light and the infrared light energizes the cell which is the mitochondria which sorry to take you back to science but no i like it i don't know if you ever remember mitochondria from back in your gcse it does it brings a bell it does it's bringing something and what that does that helps it acts like a battery underneath your skin so energizes things and allows things to heal it reduces inflammation it reduces redness so you have less blemishes the skin is smoother the pores appear smaller and the skin just it will just show up in your skin because your skin will glow so led generally was used in dermatology clinics so you go in for a dermatology appointment you'd be put on under led mask because it would help with wound healing and all of that kind of stuff but now that's been taken into your own home now the at home ones you can't compare to the ones that you get at dermatology clinics because they can't be made as the same power of course but for you to get results you just have to be consistent so i tell my clients to be using it five days a week to seven days a week if you can every night that's first thing I do, I wash my face, put my shark LED mask on.

35:46I just let it do its thing.

35:47Olivia Attwood:Go around the house. You can cook your dinner with it. Or go watch a film, do whatever. Do whatever you want. You just got to make sure there's nothing on your skin. So you've got to cleanse your skin, make sure there's nothing on, and then you put it on. And it's doing lots of different things. So it has the blue light, it's got the red light, and it's got the infrared light. And all those lights penetrate the skin at different depths. So the blue light works on the top surface layer of the skin, whereas layers like blemishes. Then the red light goes just underneath a little bit further to again stimulate healing and reduce inflammation and the infrared light goes a lot deeper to help firmness of the skin it's so clever isn't it it's incredible and people who came up with this i'm so we're so grateful to these kind of people who came up with this it was actually nasa who started led lights wow nasa nasa because what they found is astronauts who'd have like cuts or anything up in space when if their hand was underneath the led delight it would heal a bit quicker yeah and they were like there's something going on there so they brought it back down did research on it and were like this is great for wound healing then it was taken to dermatology clinics where we use it for wound healing and regeneration and then now it's for you to use at your own home amazing incredible amazing okay we've got audience questions a little bit of a quick fire so give me your um your professional take what are your favorite treatments for under eyes depends on the concern okay but generally injectable treatments polynucleides are the only thing really I like because it makes you produce lots of collagen lots of elastin helps to smoothen skin quality have you had that one yet?

37:18Olivia Attwood:I've had the polys nice under the eyes whole face I love love I love I was a big fan of Profilo yes but I think I actually like the polynucleides better interesting yeah I'm going to disagree Profilo incredible for the rest of your face but you can't inject it underneath your eyes. So what I generally do is profile it everywhere else and fill the under-eye polynucides. Go crazy. It's like injectable skincare. Is that a really basic way to kind of describe it? It just does a lot of the things that your skincare does i.e. stimulates your collagen, your elastin thickens things up and just makes things smoother.

37:55It just gives it a little boost alongside your skincare. Stunning. That's number one. Number two for puffiness, like I said, the only thing that's really going to work is improving your lymphatic flow. So puffiness under the eyes happens because there's water retention. When there's water retention, usually in the mornings, you'll find everything's a little bit puffier. The under eyes are a bit puffier. The rest of the face is always a little bit rounder because we've got pipework around our face, which drains the water. Overnight, that kind of gets blocked. And because it gets blocked, that slows down.

38:25So the water isn't draining.

38:27Olivia Attwood:Then it just sits there and things look puffy. So all you need is like a four to ten minute routine to de-puff that wow and that's where you would generally we were using gouaches where we would like put in the freezer let get cold and then try and de-puff that area whereas now we can use devices which are just what you can leave at your bedside yeah wake up the first thing you do in the morning use the de-puffy and that will improve the lymphatic flow and just help to reduce the amount of water retention in your face i've used that i've you talked about my socials it's a real game changer and i love the fact it goes from hot to cold so you kind of can jump to those two settings depending on like what you want it for so generally you would start with the warm to increase the blood circulation in that area and then cold to kind of cold helps to reduce the blood vessels it helps to shrink things which means your pores appear less visible yeah and you will look sculpted i think there's a study on it that showed like 90 of people felt sculpted just by using it for four minutes it's not a bad step We'll take it.

39:28Olivia Attwood:Oh, I mean, you just answered this question. Lymphatic drainage, what does it actually do? So essentially, by using the de-puffy, you are doing some manual lymphatic drainage. Absolutely. So what will happen is your under eyes will be de-puffed, your cheeks will look sculpted, and your jawline will look sculpted. And you just do that on a daily basis. Skincare step you should never skip. Apart from SPF, always SPF, but that's a boring answer, is your retinols. SPF retinols. Well, retinals, remember, we learned that. Retinals, yes. I remember that now because actually I didn't even know that. Getting filler in your 20s, does it age you more long term?

40:04Long term, no, unless you have too much. If you have too much of anything, it's going to go wrong so you can stretch the skin.

40:09Olivia Attwood:Why does filler wear off so quickly on me? Not me personally. I was going to say. Why does some people, like why do they, does their Botox wear off faster than others? Generally, it's because of your metabolism. So anyone that works out, eats healthy, taking their supplements, looking after themselves. They get penalized by less Botox. You get penalized, unfortunately. Rude! It just doesn't last as long. So you basically break it down quicker. Correct. By, if you're caning the Barry's boot camp, it will unfortunately break your Botox down. My Barry's clients are in my chair a lot more often than anyone else.

40:42And I love it.

40:42Olivia Attwood:The couch potatoes. No, I shouldn't say that. Sun. The sun will also expedite how quickly things break down, including Botox filler, etc. Going for my first Botox appointment, what should I ask for? or is it for the doctor to decide? The conversation you need to have is what do you want to achieve out of it? So when someone's in my chair for the first time, they're always absolutely petrified because they don't want to look like they've had Botox, which is fine. And I always tell people Botox is done on a scale of strength. Super weak baby Botox where you look the same. It's completely frozen where nothing is moving.

41:16Everybody always wants to start on this side of the scale, right? And then they slowly go. And you know the conversation it always has? I bet you any money. give me a year, give me two years max, you will be on the other side. So the conversation you have to have with your injector is that you want to start natural. Because if you start high, you will hate it because you look different and you'll get a jump scare because it feels heavy.

41:39Olivia Attwood:Something that actually works for helping blemishes. Easy. Three things. So number one is your skincare. So your salicylic acids and your retinols, which we discussed, are really going to help reduce that. Number two is your LED mask. So your LED mask has that blue wavelength and that is going to help reduce blemishes. And studies have shown on this mask in particular, the Shark Cry Glow, is within four weeks, it will reduce blemishes. Wow. Last thing are collagen supplements. Collagen supplements work beautifully just generally. So you're actually a fan? I actually love... So taking them orally, basically.

42:13Take them orally, only if you're having treatments. So if you're using your retinols, if you're having microneedling, if you're having injectables, collagen works beautifully. if you're not doing any of that it's a waste of time and most of them are a load of rubbish so there's only one brand that i actually like they're called luna and solace stunning best

42:30Olivia Attwood:collagen on the market how much do you think diet plays into acne huge amounts diet your genetics and what you're putting on your skin what i find is a lot of people actually using dirty makeup brushes or dirty makeup putting on putting that back on their skin and then that's got bacteria in it pillowcases not changing them enough these little things will make a huge difference sugar is the worst for skin it's horrendous favourite way to reduce redness redness is a really really difficult thing to treat so lasers can help quite a lot retinols and tretinoin in particular will help very long term but you have to just stick with it and it will but otherwise your LED mask again it's going to help to reduce inflammation it's going to help reduce blemishes and then using your gua sha inspired devices like the de-puffy because that will help shrink things and make things less red.

43:25Olivia Attwood:Someone has some money to spend. Where would you invest in terms of long-term skin health? Two things. One is skincare and it's consistency with skincare. So your retinals in particular. And two, an LED mask. Those two work beautifully hand in hand. Everyone should have it. Perfect. Like combination, basically. Let's get into some trends of 2026. things that people are talking about a lot what you think versus what you think so i've been overhyped the first one it's actually new to me pdrn yes what is that that's just the fancy version of saying salmon sperm or polynucleotide oh so i do know you you know you've had it it's not your first radio so i do know um fan or overrated fan in the right person so the problem again there's that is with tiktok so when when the salmon sperm rejections first came out um they've been around around for a long time i've been injecting it for years way before it was way way before it became popular but then um social media decided that having salmon spam injected was super cool and trend which i love is great um but they were telling you that it gets rid of like your darkness they were telling you it gets rid of your puffiness they were telling you it's brightening things it does not do that it's a skin booster it just helps improve the quality of your skin not life-changing but love it in certain areas especially underneath the eye nad nad you're you do nad right i was gonna say i wrote for i just outing you then no i do i so i inject it i like i go i go on and off it and i've had any d drips in clinic it's a hard one uh it's like when i do the the i do some hyperbaric oxygen therapy when i'm tired there's a there is obviously some entire scientific backing especially to hyperbaric oxygen yeah there's a bit of a placebo effect i feel like it helps my energy levels but i mean it's hard to like on a scale like you know prove what is a little bit in your mind like what do you what's your opinion um great if you are doing it consistently you need to do it on a daily basis if you're not doing on a daily basis you're not going to see much from it but again what that does that stimulates your energy cells and helps it produce energy a bit quicker which means you are going to be energized and your cells are going to heal quicker so yes if you're doing if you're consistent in doing it every day what um for listeners how would you explain nad like if they don't they're like what the hell are you talking about live so it's an injectable product because everything's being injected nowadays um it's injectable product and it's something that's so i don't know if you you might remember this again from your biology lessons you would have seen nad in one of those equations that creates atp atp is energy okay and that's how much energy you're producing you need ATP to create to do anything yes so it just stimulates that ATP production so you're going to have more energy because you're adding something into your body that makes that chain reaction happen a bit easier and the other thing I would say to people because I have used it is there are a lot of bogus companies now flogging it everyone's making it everyone's like so make sure it's a high quality product FDA approved you know don't don't just go injecting things No, off the back of a van.

46:31Olivia Attwood:Like, let's be sensible what we're putting to our bodies. This one, I haven't even told you yet, I'm off to Korea next week. Nice. For the show. So, K-Beauty. What's the influence from Korea in your industry and skin? Huge, huge. Is it true that we're basically always a little bit behind them? Always. They're doing it and then a few years later we'll go, oh, what are you doing over there? Let's have a go. Always. And that's where I got the salmon spam injection from years ago was Korea. Okay. So they are really quite ahead of us when it comes to skin. way ahead of us I'm taking one whole suitcase by the way just for skin I would take two so can you send me a list because I am going to load up can I come?

47:06Olivia Attwood:can you come as my come as my medical consult I will and I'll come with an extra suitcase and we'll have half on it I'm only joking customs I'll draw another run in with them no I think we're allowed okay yeah K-beauty they are ahead of us they are very ahead of us because they they are they have always been very into their skin care if you go there you'll see the Korean girls and boys they look insane They never put their faces in the sun. They do not fuck with anti-aging, with getting aged. Like their skin is insane. Their SPFs are incredible. Okay. They sit beautiful. Most of the SPFs that we have are not very nice.

47:42You find they're really claggy. They clog up your skin because they're just not very well formulated. Their ones are incredible. So their sun exposure, first of all, their education on that is brilliant. But they are just ahead. They put a lot of money and there's a huge amount of investment that goes into skincare. and their government is even putting money into that because that's bringing them a lot of money via K-Beauty. Which means they are so ahead of us. So they're injectable products. They're fillers. Incredible. I've been using their fillers for years and they are amazing. They're polynucleotides.

48:11So they're salmon sperms. Incredible. Nothing better than the ones that they have. So they are very, very ahead. And even their devices, I'm trying to bring some of their device over. It's really not easy. So if you find a contact there, please let me know.

48:23Olivia Attwood:Three suitcases? Yeah, three. What's new in scalp and hair growth treatments? are we still looking at the same things is it minoxidil PRP what are your what do you recommend to people with concerns around similar sort of things but they are getting better especially for men actually so men nowadays shock shock horror yeah I know sorry guys all the investment goes to the same I'm sorry you guys kind of have the capital on balding I don't know why I'm looking at you I'm so sorry I've got no competition in the room Liv yeah you are the baldest one here I'll let you have that I was as well I've had it sorted did you have a hair transplant?

49:01Olivia Attwood:yeah and then what did well also post hair transplant you have to look after that too because if you don't because I stopped looking after it because I was like yeah I'm looking cute I'm done I'm done and then no it starts falling out it starts falling out so men generally you don't have to be bold no but you have to start very early on also a lot of men aren't good at straight men I'm going to actually say yes it's consistently using a product absolutely of course so minoxidil works beautifully because what it does it increases the blood flow to your hair cells so they will be thicker so females should be using minoxidil 100 % and men as well now the men's one also has something called finasteride in it so you'll see they were we were taking tablets to try and grow hair which works beautifully but you would get issues in terms of bedroom issues so now like your sex drive sex drive reduces massively because it affects your testosterone and so now what we have is male ones will have the that hormone in it along with a really high monoxidil percentage which means you can put it topically and not get any systemic results and with women um i'm just treating loads of women with hair loss because everyone's on the zempick um what we're doing is we're putting them on a higher percentage monoxidil so general monoxidil you can buy legally as five percent on market you can get prescription levels which are 10 which is incredible it's game-changing debunk something for me let's just say you're in boots and you see like the regain and there is the women's version the men's version like is it just a pink tax thing like can we use the men ones I would if my clients so it doesn't matter that that hormone's in there it's not going to do there's no hormone in that one oh so it's a pink tax so you can use it's a pink tax so use the men's one works the same in fact it works better because it's got a higher percentage of minoxidil there we go you heard it here first guys before you go I want to play a game so I'm going to read you a list of trending skincare hacks, if you will.

50:53Olivia Attwood:And I want your unfiltered, honest opinion. Go on. Face taping. Fine, it'll work for about half an hour and then you lose all the results from it. So if you're just going, just about to go to an event and you just want things to look a little bit snatched, then yeah, you can put your face tapes on. Like people post rhinoplasty when they tape their nose, helps the swelling. You're better off using the Shark D Puffy because that will sculpt you for a lot longer for the rest of the day. and also I've seen people taping their face and then they're ripping the table for the morning it's not necessary you're kind of damaged in barrier as well face wraps again so the idea of those face wraps are like mostly for under the jaw to make things look a bit more lifted almost like what you'd wear post-surgery yes so again so I think Kim K had one didn't she she released one for about two seconds um again you're gonna see like you will see an instant result for about an hour or so and then you've lost it so don't waste your time don't waste your money dermaplaning dermaplaning there's so much about dermaplaning um just for people that don't know it's using a blade yeah it's using like a like a blade just to remove there's those really thin hairs on the top surface there of the blonde that we all have yeah and they're usually really light and really blonde mine aren't blonde but but they you just remove them and it will make your skin look absolutely glowing you will shine but the problem with it you just have to have it done regularly yeah so if you're okay and it's part of your plan and you can go and have it done regularly and professionally absolutely be wary of the big packs of them by the till at tk max yeah please don't don't don't just start shaving your face they're not sharp are they and then you can cut yourself silk pillowcases silk pillowcases lovely really nice the idea is i'm a big stan Yeah, the idea is your face doesn't crease as much when you're laid on them because they're silk.

52:45Really nice. Just make sure you change your pillowcases. It's probably more important.

52:48Olivia Attwood:Yeah. How often would you recommend people to change their pillowcases? I change mine twice a week. Same. And if you've got acne? If you've got acne, yeah. More, or at least flip it over. So twice a week and keep flipping over. Pore vacuums. These little machines we see on Instagram where people suck their pores. So pore vacuums per se, absolute no. No. Believe it or not. Oh, really? So nothing that vacuums because it will pull things out and damage your skin. Now, what you want to do instead is kind of like jet wash those pores. So you wash them out rather than sucking. So one that we've got here, which is stunning, it's my favorite one, is the Facial Pro Glow by Shark.

53:27Now, what that does, rather than vacuuming, it will hydrate and wash out the pores.

53:36Olivia Attwood:so you fill this with solution like skincare so that comes with two korean inspired skincare solutions and we just spoke about korean care we know how amazing it is so the first solution you put on your skin and what it does it just helps to soften this top surface layer of dead skin cells ready for it to be extracted and then initially you put water into it and that just removes the derm detox that you've just put on your skin which is removing that top surface layer of dead skin ready to then be extracted. And then you use something called the Derm Detox. Now that has got hyaluronic acid in it and it's got a little bit of BHA in there.

54:13What that's going to do is going to hydrate and infuse the pores with hydration, with nanohyaluronic acid. So your pores will appear smoother. The skin will be smoother and your pores will be unclogged without causing any damage. Now the beauty of that is then you can actually put the Depuffy onto that. So the Depuffy that comes separately, it has an attachment that goes straight onto that same machine.

54:36Olivia Attwood:So you can change the end, basically. You change the top, so it comes off. Oh, so you basically pull the whole thing off. Correct. Like that. Yeah. And then the de-puffy attachment goes on. You use the cold contrast therapy on there. So the InstaChill technology will help to shrink pores, will help to de-puff, sculpt, and you're ready for the day. This is the Sharp Facial Pro Glow. It's very cute. Very nice. It's very cute. Look aesthetic on your... Very aesthetic. And it's very good for traveling. it's like compact so you've got the liquid in there I'm going to put it on the back of my hand oh yeah you can just like sort of can you hear that?

55:11Olivia Attwood:I can can the listeners hear that? they can hear that yeah it's like just like like a very light suction and then I can understand that so it basically would jet wash your pores exactly so it just hydrates and then it infuses that hyaluronic acid into your skin so you're just going to be looking glowing for the rest of your day that's really satisfying so if you if you don't have time to go into clinic for a facial. I'm taking this. That's what you use. That's mine now. Use that. And you can use that as many times as you want. Generally, like once a week is fine. Yeah. For like a deep clean. For a deep clean.

55:42Wash it out the pores. You're ready to go. Your pores will be smaller.

55:46Olivia Attwood:And then will you see the kind of the gunk build up in there from your skin in the other part? Yeah. So all the dirt that gets pulled out of your skin goes into that tank there. That will be so satisfying. And you'll see blackheads. So what I do in my own honesty, you'll see like little blackheads, you'll see whiteheads, you'll see all the dirt, all the makeup that you've left over that you haven't double cleansed off will be in that little tank. I want it. Okay. Beef tallow. Please just don't waste your money. Don't put things on your skin that shouldn't be on your skin. Beef tallow doesn't deserve...

56:15Just keep it for cooking. Just cook with it.

56:17Olivia Attwood:Mouth taping. Mouth taping actually works quite nicely because it stops you breathing through your mouth. Okay. A lot of people, when they breathe through your mouth, it actually changes your bone structure and the lower part on your face where your face is a little bit sunken back or protruded. So mouth taping helps to control your breathing, helps to reduce your heart rate overnight. I personally struggle because I feel way too claustrophobic doing it. But if you can, really, really nice. I tried it and then I was like every night at like midnight, I was like whipping it off. Like an hour into my sleep, I was waking up in the morning, I'd be like, oh, and it'd be on the floor.

56:53Yeah, so great if you can handle it.

56:57Olivia Attwood:right Dr Motox that has been education for myself and hopefully the listeners as well shout out to Sharp Beauty for bringing us this ep and I think we've all had yeah a massive education I've enjoyed it thoroughly I'm glad yeah before you go I would like you to play the game that we all play it's basically a referral so who would you like to refer to Olivia's house who would you like me to put on the list an interview Olivia there's only one person that needs to be here who? and that is Dr. Jean and I'll tell you who Dr. Jean is because most people don't know her and you should know her Dr. Jean is the one that discovered Botox for cosmetic reasons what?

57:37yes and she's still alive she's around she's in California somewhere she's here so she can actually come to Liva's house

57:42Olivia Attwood:okay great so her and her husband are the ones that discovered Botox for cosmetic reasons and without her I wouldn't exist Dr. Botox would not be a thing my face wouldn't be a thing you wouldn't be here what like is she are they loaded? I don't she doesn't look loaded online she has to be loaded no but she's not she doesn't own botox so the way that she discovered it is she's like the scientist she's a scientist so they were true her and her husband were treating patients with um eye twitching and they found those patients that would come in would be like oh would you mind just injecting the other side and they're like why what's going on and then all the everyone who came in would be like i just look younger when i have this stuff injected and they just sat back they're like what is going on why is everyone asking for more of this stuff.

58:27And they put two and two together and were like, we can use this everywhere. That's incredible. And that's how, that's where Dr. Mozart came from.

58:34Olivia Attwood:I owe my career to Dr. G. And equally importantly, who should I ban? Who don't you want to see on that chair ever? There's only one group of people. Go on. Straight men. I don't think any straight men should be allowed in Olivia's house. I have little so many. Girls on the gays only. Yeah, that's, yeah. If I see one on here, Liv, I will. If you see one on here, you know that they are very special. Oh my God. I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Thank you so much. Dr. Mo, everyone.