Arnold Schwarzenegger ON: How to Make Your Visions a Reality & Stop Having a Limited Mindset

35:07They don't have the goal. And that's why they end up being one of the 78 % that are unhappy with their jobs and they wish they could change jobs. But then it's too late because now you've created a family and you have to pay for, you know, your rent for the apartment and you have to put food on the table. You have to provide money for the kids and for your wife and for the family and all this stuff. So it's really tough. So that's why so many people are really always looking for an answer or searching for an answer. How can I improve my life? How can I make it a little bit better and all this stuff?

35:39And this is why I did the book and it'll be useful. I'm glad that you put it in that order though, because I think for everyone who's listening and watching, a lot of people will say, I do work hard. I'm working my ass off. I'm working my socks off. I'm like doing everything I can. But I think what's really important is that in the book, you start with have a clear vision. And I agree. I think there are a lot of people who are working really, really hard. And it's almost like if that hard work was channeled toward a clear vision, as you say, then that hard work pays off. Right. Because otherwise, a lot of people just working hard, getting stressed, putting on pressure, but there isn't that vision.

36:15Have you found, what was the greatest sacrifice you ever made in your life, do you think? And what was the reward that you gained from it? What was the biggest sacrifice? That is really the question. Is it really a sacrifice? Because you love it. Exactly. To me, it's also a real question is the word discipline. Because I tell you, I felt many times that I'm not a disciplined person. But people always insist, oh, it must take so much discipline every day to get up. And every day you were in the gym at 7 in the morning and you worked at the 9.30 in the morning. And then you went to college after that.

36:58And then you went this and this. And you worked in construction. I was like looking forward to getting up in the morning and looking forward driving to the gym. and working out two and a half hours and then going down to the beach and taking a run in the deep sand and getting some cardio work done. I said, I was looking forward to it. It was not like, oh, my God, I have to do another workout. Yes, you do that when, for instance, sometimes people go to the gym and the doctor says, you know, you should go to the gym and you should work out because otherwise, you know, I see some problems coming up, high cholesterol and body fat and this and that.

37:37and you're going to go and wipe out, you know, 10 years younger than you want to, if there's ever the right time to wipe out. But, I mean, in any case, so that person you can see in the gym is there and they just do their reps and they do their sets and they're not really into it. You can see there's no life in their eyes. You know what I'm saying? It's like really they grab the weight and they do their sets and they get the pump and they feel good and they put the weights down and get the next heavy weight and they're doing a set and so that's really fun but that person is kind of like a vegetable in a way they just cruise around in the gym they sit on the life cycle and they just pedal away and when you say to them is this so why do you work out they have no answer then eventually they say well to be honest with you the doctor told me that i should get in shape that's better for my health to bring my blood pressure down and my cholesterol down and my body fat down and also so they're not really so i say to them always i said you know what you should do is you should just pick a goal that you can chase they will say like what i said well how much do you weigh i'm weighing 190 pounds and i want to i want to lower my body fat body weight i said well why don't you pick a goal like you want to go down to 170 and did there in this now march and by august when you go to the beach you're gonna have a slimmer waist less body fat and you look leaner and you can be proud of your body i said pick that go oh that's a good idea i said write it down and then write down the sets you have to do to get you there and the amount of reps you have to do and the amount of life cycle that you have to run and regular bicycling and running that you have to write all of this down and then you mark it off every day you mark it off that's what i did to me there was really that that feedback that i see a line being crossed that means one was set was done it was a satisfying kind of a thing the line was crossed off the next line was crossed off and so i tell people that and then they just say oh my god this is yeah i'm gonna do that that is such a great idea then they come back to me like a few months later and they said this worked It was unbelievable.

39:57It worked. It was fantastic. And it really gave me a purpose. You see, so that's why it's so important to have a purpose when you do things, to have a clear vision when you do things, because then you don't have to look at it kind of like, I have to be really disciplined to do that, or I have to make certain sacrifices to do that, because then it just drags you into that direction and you just do the work. And so that's what I think is always that, but clearly there were sacrifices. Like, let me just give you one example. Yeah, please. What do you think it's like when you go and you run for governor and you promise the people that you are going to be my number one priority?

40:36Now you win. Now you have to do the work. But now you come home and your kids are crying on the dinner table when you come home. And daddy didn't come to my recital on Monday. Daddy, you didn't come to my football practice on Tuesday. Daddy, you promised me that you'd come into the school and you'd take me to school. You didn't this week. So that is devastating. When the kids are crying and complaining, and you say to yourself, you know, I promised the people that they're number one, but I also promised my family. I promised my wife when we had the first child that they're going to be number one.

41:26So that's the dilemma. Now you're in a dilemma. And now you have to make certain sacrifices. And I had to make certain sacrifices when it comes to spending time with my family where my wife had to pick up the slacks and she had to do the extra work. So there were sacrifices made that were painful sometimes. When you see your kids crying, that's painful. and that you know it's your fault. But that's the situation you're in. And you put yourself in this situation. You had a choice to run for governor or not to run for governor, right? If I would have continued with my movie business, those kids were in heaven because they were in a movie in my makeup trailer.

42:07They were watching me getting made up as the Terminator or for any of those kind of movies. They were in my motorhome and they were doing their homework in the afternoon there. They brought their friends with them. So that was fun. Now, all of a sudden, they go up to Sacramento, and everyone is running around with a suit and with a tie. And they come to me and say, Dad, what did you do? Why are you having this job? They were like 11, 12 years old. And they said, why do you have this job now? I said, everyone has a suit and a tie, and everyone looks really serious, and they all attack you. They say bad things about you.

42:43I said, well, this is the way it's politics. I said, as soon as you run, first you have like 80 % popularity. And then as soon as you run, your popularity goes down to 50 % because 50 % of the other side, the other party. So you run as a Republican, so it's 50 % of the Democrats, they hate you or they don't like you. And then the Republicans like you, but they don't even like you because he says, yeah, he's doing too socially liberal. So he said, my campaign manager always says, this is Arnold, 20 % of the people hate their mother so don't worry about someone hating you it's just the way it is in politics you know so anyway so this is so you have to make sacrifices like that imagine a sacrifice you have to take when you come to this country i mean you know what it's like you leave everything behind my friends my parents my relatives everything that was around me that was kind of like a sure thing I had a job after the military that I could go to continue on the job that I did as a salesman.

43:43I had all of this and I left all this for uncertainty because there was no certainty coming to America. There was Joe Weider that said, I'm going to help you. I find your apartment. I find your car. Yes, there were some people that helped a lot. He's the one that gave me the airline ticket to come to America and all this stuff. Joe Weider is the publisher of the muscle magazines. He has passed away in the meantime, but he was like the guru of bodybuilding. He created bodybuilding. The Federation was created by his brother, Ben Weider. And Joe had an endless amount of magazines and distribution company for weight equipment, for food supplements and all that.

44:25So he brought me here. So there was some help like this. But I mean, I walked away from all of this comfort to come to America. so yet there were major major sacrifices like that but i've really never looked at it in that way because i just say to myself i want to go to america i want to go and be there and work my way up to become the greatest bodybuilder of all times and that's you know we are talking about one of the other rules yes you see in my book which is that to shoot for big goals yeah never I think small. It's just as much energy or as little energy as shooting for a little goal. You know, it's just as much hassle.

45:07I mean, if a little goal, like say, if I would say, I want to be Mr. Austria. Well, that's as much working out than working out for Mr. Europe or Mr. Universe. So, I mean, you might as well just continue on and just say, okay, all I have to do now, the difference really is that you have to become a real professional. You have to know how to pose. You have to have the right tan. You have to take the right food supplements. you have to eat the right food. You have to really fine tune. You have to get the definition. It's not just the size of the body. So the higher up you go, the more complicated it gets to win.

45:38But I said to myself, to me, to shoot for the goal of being a world champion is just as easy as shooting for a goal of being Mr. Austria, being the Austrian champion. So I just went all out. And not only to win the world championships in bodybuilding, but to go beyond Reg Park, who won at that point three Mr. Universe titles, to go beyond that and to say, I want to actually become the greatest bodybuilder of all time. All times. That was my goal. And so that's why I had to come to America where there is Muscle Beach, where there's Gorge Gym, where all the champions work out together, where there's Joe Weider that can be helpful and publish you and put you on the cover of his magazines.

46:21and all of this to do the promotion, the campaign, the training, the marketing of bodybuilding and all that. So to me, this was really the only way to go is to come to Los Angeles. And on top of it, Los Angeles is known for Hollywood. And this is my next career. So I always say to myself, the word Reg Park, I saw him in Hercules movies. So can you believe that this guy won Mr. Universe three times and then he was discovered in Rome in Trinidad. And they saw him there and they said, oh my God, you are Hercules. We're going to send you to acting classes, into acting school and you're going to play Hercules.

47:07And then Steve Reeves did the same thing who was another Mr. Universe from 1940, I know 1950, yeah, Steve Reeves from 1950, Reg Park, 1951. So both of them became Hercules. Then there was many other bodybuilders that became, they did Hercules movies or those gladiator movies and muscle movies and stuff like that in the 60s, it became very famous. But I mean, so I said to myself, if Reg Park could get into movies, maybe when I go to America and I become the world's greatest bodybuilder, then they would ask me to go into movies. And so this was the idea. So to me, it was natural. Oh, I said to myself, there's Hollywood in Los Angeles, There's Muscle Beach in Los Angeles.

47:51There's Coach Jim in Los Angeles. There's Chawita here. This is perfect. I have to go there. That was the reason why I went here. Did you ever have a plan B? I never believed in plan B because I felt kind of like one of the rules we have in my book is never listen to the naysayers. Yeah. You know, to me, I always felt kind of like every single dream of mine. Of course, I have to say they were outrageous dreams. So people said, this is stupid. What is the matter with you? That would never happen. I mean, your dream is to go to America. What do you think, they're waiting for you over there? I mean, they've blamed your people over there.

48:31They've over 300 million in population. They don't need any more. And so that was the kind of thing. You say, you would never make it to America. They don't need you. So no, impossible. When I said I want to be a world champion in party building, it was impossible. When I said I want to get into movies, that was impossible. So it was always impossible. So I felt that we can go and defend ourselves from that and just not listen to the naysayers. But if I start having a plan B, then all of a sudden I'm becoming, in a way, a naysayer to myself. Wow, yeah, true. So because that means now that I'm saying, well, maybe this isn't working out.

49:13And if it's not working out, we should have a plan B. So to me, this is the most dangerous of all of the naysayers, is me saying no, and it's impossible maybe to myself. So therefore, I felt the best way of handling that is not to have a safety net and not to have a plan B. That I am at risk, and therefore I have to be at all times on the edge. and a pen so I don't fall where I would need a safety net. This is the way I dealt with that issue. Never have a plan B. Always go all out with my plan and really put 100 % of effort into it in order to really achieve it. And I just always believed in my goals.

50:05I mean, I remember when I ran for governor and people said, you're crazy. I mean, you know, this great Davis is going to take you out. And then if he doesn't, Bustamante is the lieutenant governor. These are all seasoned politicians. You don't know anything about politics and blah, blah, blah. Why don't you run first for mayor? And why don't you do this? No. I was very clear with my vision. I could see myself as the governor because I felt that the people in California were very upset at the regular politicians. I mean, they were always talking about what they know and how smart they are and how they're going to fix things.

50:50In the meantime, we had a$30 billion deficit. In the meantime, we had blackouts. In the meantime, they were handing out driver's license to illegal immigrants, what they call undocumented immigrants. And everything that the people were against and the people didn't like the Indian gaming tribes were gambling and having gambling casinos, but not paying taxes. So they were mad about that. So I would just tell people, if I become governor, I would change all that. And the workers' compensation costs for businesses in California, I would cut that in half. That's why so many businesses left California, because of the cost of doing business.

51:37So I said, I will cut that in half. And so this is exactly, people bought in because I was talking believable. I mean, I could put my hand in the fire for the people to do the things that I promised. Those things will be done. And I said, I will do most of those things before breakfast, the first day when I'm in office. So that always sounded good. So in any case, the people bought in. and I remember that when President Bush and those guys called me from the White House and they said, you want the president to come out to campaign for you? I said, no, no, no, no, no. I said, because then it becomes kind of a political thing about the Republicans are helping each other and then Gray Davis is going to have out, you know, Bill Clinton and Al Gore and John Kerry and, you know, all of those guys and that's exactly what happened.

52:30He had all those people come out, campaign for him and I told all of my guys, no, don't come out because I wanted to be the David and not the Goliath. I want to be the underdog and kind of say, look, this is just between me and the voters. So that was my vision. Not a political strategy vision, but I mean, that was my vision. I said, I have to be the person that is by himself, that is kind of crawling up there, and that is communicating with the voters. I don't need someone to speak for me or anything like that. Yes, you have you, and communications director and all that stuff. But I didn't need to have President Bush come out and speak for me.

53:14I didn't have to have the vice president come out to speak for me or anything like this. I wanted this to be between me and the thing, and it worked. People figured it out that I'm out there, that I'm promising them, and they bought into it, and they won. And so this is why it is so important that you have really a 100 % belief in not having to go and say, my plan B, if this doesn't work, is I'm going to go back to movies. Well, that would unfold anyway. But let's first go all out and not have a plan B. This is the thing. And so I've never had a plan B. I'm Radhi Devlukia, and I'm the host of a Really Good Cry podcast, and I have the opportunity to talk to Logan Ury.

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54:32And the best relationships are people who really work on them together. They're so focused on, if I find the perfect person, then I'll have the perfect relationship. Instead of understanding, really, that they can choose someone great and then build that relationship together. They don't need to keep searching for perfection. Listen to A Really Good Cry on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. us yeah no it's really really great clarity again of just determination that there's no other options and and i like what you said or what really connected with me at least is this idea of how you can become your own naysayer right now having a plan b is you talking yourself out of why you should go all in or you're already or you're already putting it on and um kind of shaky grounds yes yes the goal yeah you're already setting yourself up you already say well if if, wait a minute, if you say if, that means there's a possibility in your mind this could fail and that is a dangerous road to go.

55:29Yeah. I think. I agree. Where did you go when a few moments ago you were talking about how the kids are upset when you're governor, obviously public gets upset when someone's in a position of power. You've got all these people who rely on you personally and professionally and you even said to yourself, like, I couldn't really talk about it. You can't really, no one can really understand that what did you do at that time where did you go for connection and understanding and even getting to talk to yourself at that time well you just have to find uh you know a compromise so what you then do is you just say okay i'm gonna go and spend an extra day at home so because it was the choice being in los angeles a lot of days or to be in Sacramento so I spent four days a week in Sacramento and three days a week in Los Angeles and I decided then to spend another day in Los Angeles and to go to this school recital or to go to some kind of practice sessions of you know my kid playing football or baseball or something like that and to go to those things so to figure out a way and it didn't take anything away from my public service, but it gave a little bit more time, FaceTime for the kids.

56:49And, you know, it really is absolutely crucial for the kids, not just to see their mom coming to school, but they need their dad also. You know, and so that's exactly what they did. And I totally understood. I talked to my wife about it. But like I said, on the end, she was really the one that was the powerhouse in the family because she spent, I would say, 80 % of the time with the kids. And I did 20 % because I was stuck in Sacramento. And even though she worked also as first lady and she was in Sacramento, but she spent much more time with the kids. And luckily, when you have a good partner, then you can do a lot of those things.

57:33alone I couldn't have done it yeah definitely and you you mentioned I think in the documentary too that if there was an Oscars for divorces then you should get one because of how even in that circumstance you both have found a way to let the kindness be even the way you're speaking about yeah because today because it's it's kind of the most important thing is it's one thing if you suffer through it it's another thing if your wife suffers through it but the kids are really totally innocent bystanders, right? So we had to kind of, my wife and I were very good at working together so the kids don't really feel a bump in the road and that things are smooth for them.

58:15And again, it's important. I mean, I saw it very clearly that it can be done, and we did it. And we were very happy with the outcome. We are very, very proud of our kids. I mean, they're extraordinary. Yeah, I had the fortune of interviewing Catherine probably a couple of years ago when her book came out. Yeah, yeah. So I got to have some interaction with her and Maria and I've had several interactions too. Catherine is a carbon copy of Maria. And Maria is a carbon copy of Eunice. And Eunice is a carbon copy of Rose Kennedy. So this is how it goes down. I mean, it's like they're like clones. They're exactly, you know exactly what you get from them.

58:57I mean, it's like with Catherine, I mean, I'm so proud of her, of what a woman she has become. And so is with Christina, with my other daughter and the boys. It's a lot of fun. I never thought that having kids would be that much fun. I said, because I only, in the beginning, I always thought about, you know, the work that it would take, you know, to take them to school and to go to the recitals and to the practices and to teach them and to have the swimming coach over. and you know you have to just be part of everything you have to teach them teach them you know from just swimming to running to football to water skiing snow skiing uh you know you have to just be on top of everything and also um having animals because one of the most important things with kids is if you have the space that is if you're in a little tiny apartment then maybe a cat is good but I mean normally it's kind of like good when you have dogs or when you have like we have a miniature pony we had horses a donkey and a lulu the miniature donkey we had pigs now I have a pig again the kids are not there anymore it never stops but I mean so because the kids grow up with these animals and you teach them how to take care of them this is extremely important because they have to have a sense of responsibility you can't just say oh i would like to have a rabbit or i would like to have a pig yeah but you take care of it so that's what they've learned one of the lessons in your book is sell sell sell and we just talked about it now when you were talking about almost selling yourself to become governor there's a certain promotion, marketing approach to galvanizing people to get behind you.

1:00:48And I think the word sales and selling has a lot of, a lot of people have a negative connotation or a difficulty with selling because it almost feels like there has to be something fake about it. I've always found that if you're proud of what you're selling, if you really believe in it, then it's easier to sell it. But generally people have a challenge with like the word sell, but you say one of your lessons is sell, sell, sell. So walk us through how you were able to, I mean, obviously, even all the movies, the franchises you've created, it requires promotion, it requires selling. And of course, they were highly entertaining.

1:01:23But tell us what you learned about how to sell effectively, but also authentically. First of all, I think you're totally right. Yeah. That the word selling. sometimes comes off sleazy. so that's why i can call it promotion or communicating or whatever you call it and the point of it is that you can have the best product in the world but if no one knows about it what's the point of the product i mean i would like i like to know uh for instance if there is someone out there that does a heart surgery or valve replacement without having to have open heart surgery yeah but if i don't know i would just go to the hospital and say i want to have open heart surgery i want to get the valve replaced but if i know because they promoted it well i can go now and call that expert and then go so this is why i think it's it's so important so to me i I learned the art of selling way back when I was 15 years old, when I was in trade school and when I was working for this lumberyard kind of construction company, hardware store.

1:02:36It was like a combination of things. We were taught how to sell the merchandise. And then sometimes we were able to follow the guy that is the boss. And he one time said to me, this is Arnold, why don't you help me here? And he would talk to the customer. And I realized quickly that there was something odd going on that all of a sudden his attention focused on the wife. There was this couple. They wanted to have some tiles for the bathroom and for the kitchen. And he first talked to him and how much money did he want to spend and all of a sudden what colors. Then all of a sudden he was like, he ended up only talking to the woman.

1:03:22So he says, so what did you learn? I say, well, I learned that you were really very clear about all the advantages and disadvantages of the various different tiles and the various different colors. He says, yeah, that's right. But it's one dimension. But what else? I said, I don't know. He says, did you see how I shifted and my attention went from the husband to the wife? I said, yeah, yeah, what was that all about? And he says, well, I realized that he had really no interest in the tiles, what color it should be, what type, real tiles or fake tiles or what. It was her vision. And it was her desire to have new tiles.

1:04:07And he just went along with it because he's the husband, he's the provider of the family. He makes the money. She didn't make the money. But she had a very clear vision of what she wanted. So I shifted my focus because I realized that she is the customer, not him. And you've got to go and be able to reach the customer. And this is why I started talking to her more. It was, and then he just, out of courtesy, said to him, so what do you think? Should I deliver it on Thursday? He says, yeah, whenever. He would just always say, well, whatever. And she says, Friday is better because Friday my husband is at home in the afternoon so he can help me carrying all this stuff up to the second floor and blah, blah.

1:04:47So she was much more precise. So that's why he spent most of his time with that. So those are the things that I've learned when I was selling. And how important it is to actually let the people know that you have this product. I went right after that. A few years later, I went to Munich. And I, after the military, served there as a trainer in a bodybuilding gym. and we had like, I remember, 280 members. And there was another gym in Munich that had 500 members. And that guy, his name was Reinhard Smolana. He was Mr. Europe. And I was at this point not Mr. Europe yet. I was junior Mr. Europe, but not Mr.

1:05:34Europe yet. And I didn't compete in any other international competitions. So I was training really hard. I said to myself, if I could go to the Mr. Universe contest and I compete and I do really well, I could maybe outdo him. And so this is what I did. I trained really hard for months. And then in September was the Mr. Universe, end of September, Mr. Universe contest. And I happened to play second, which they call runner-up. Yes. So this was, my goal at that point was to be in the top six because I was 19 years old. Here was second place winner. So when I came back from London to Munich, I ran around on a construction site with just a bathing suit on, like a lunatic.

1:06:25And everyone was dressed up in their suits and everything. And they said, what is this guy doing? I was walking out on a construction site and greeting people and all this stuff, hoping that some press will show up because there's this crazy guy running around in the cold weather with just a little bathing suit. And sure enough, newspaper showed up, a photographer showed up and they asked me afterwards, why are you running around like that? And I said, well, I want to make sure that my gymnasium, universal gym, is in a newspaper. and I said okay well let's take a good shot why don't you take this saw over there and you help this guy with the construction set doing some cutting of the wood and then we would create some pictures that are really funny and they put it in the newspaper the next day and it says Schwarzenegger just came back from Mr.

1:07:16Universe was run up in a Mr. Universe contest which makes him the biggest title holder in Germany so I made it clear that they know that Not that the Mr. Europe is bigger, but the second in the Mr. Europe is the biggest title holder. So that was like, now that story was in the paper. And we had, within no time, we had beaten him with a gymnasium membership and had over 500. And his was low. And I remember him calling. So I worked out myself in his gym because we worked out together. because it's much better when you have a good training partner that is a champion himself. And we were laughing about it.

1:07:59So then, just to show you how important promotion is, so then he started secretly posting posters all over the city on construction sites. In the Smolana gym, we train you, you become a champion, more energy, healthier body, this, this, and that, and all this stuff. so when I saw the posters I said I'm gonna go and create posters myself for the gym yeah so we created posters and then we went I followed him with the car and he was going at 10 o 'clock at night on Friday putting the posters up there and then after you put the poster with the glue he then left and then I put my poster on top of his wet glue because I came right after him I didn't wait until it dries went after him and glued my poster on top of him and so this was kind of like the poster war amongst the gym owners it was hilarious but it was all it was all about selling memberships because I knew that my salary comes and is getting paid for from those monies that are coming in from the members.

1:09:12And so I wanted to be able to buy food supplements. I wanted to be able to buy myself good food and the trips to those various different competitions. In order to say it was very important that our membership goes up, that we are very successful. But it's all about selling. And so when I came to America, it was in my blood now, selling and communicating and promoting. So when I did my, I remember my book promotion, Arnold, the Education of a Bodybuilder, Simon & Schuster wanted to have it sell 100 ,000 copies so I said well I want to have it on the bestseller list I don't know, no bodybuilding magazine was ever on the bestseller list forget about that I said well let's give it a shot how many cities do we go and promote the book and he says well here's 6 cities I would suggest and so I said to him why don't we go to 30 cities you're crazy so he was laughing but then i put together a schedule and for 30 cities in 30 days and i was crisscrossing america i was going from 90 degree temperature miami up to minnesota that was like in the below zero so it was literally like 100 degree temperature differences in the same day so this is how much i crisscrossed this country and it was absolutely fantastic we won a bestseller list.

1:10:38We sold, you know, 250 ,000 hardcovers or whatever it was. And it was like a total smash as a bodybuilding and fitness book. And so this is again, over and over again, I've seen that not just the willpower to succeed, but to be able to sell and to communicate and to be out and actually talk about it. You know, I think it's important to let people know, you don't have to force the issue into the hard sell where you talk about it all the time buy my book and buy this and buy it this is the only way you're going to stay healthy and all this stuff no you don't have to do that you just in an indirect way but the key thing is that when people walk away from the interview that they know about it and this is also very important like for instance when when um we were doing johnny carson show you know i was learning at that time about bridging you know where you bridge from a specific subject that someone asks you to then what you want to talk about it's a it's an art you know and so my friend was vice president of nationwide insurance and he told me about it he said that he has taken many seminars about the you know promotion because insurance business is very important yeah that you promote and that you communicate and publicize and all this and so i asked him about it and he told me he says well bridging is one of the most important things so he taught me about that and of course i was on johnny carson's show promoting conan the barbarian just to give you an example and johnny carson says so honor this is really unbelievable how long have you been working out when did you start and why did you start working out so i said to myself okay if i answer this question in a thorough way he wouldn't sell one ticket to go to see Conan.

1:12:27So I said, I got to go and bridge. And so what I did was I answered very briefly because you have to, otherwise it sounds stupid if you talk about something else. But I would say, Johnny, it's a very good question. I said, I was 15. But I tell you, at 15, I did not know that at one time it is absolutely essential to have this kind of a body. He says, imagine Conan the Barbarian, the way Frank Frazetta painted Conan the Barbarian with the muscles and with the determination and all of this stuff. And there was no one around to do this character. That's why they've never filmed Conan. I said, now here I come, Mr.

1:13:13Universe Body, and now I do Conan the Barbarian. And it is now believable because people, when they see me handle the sword and killing all these people. I said, it's believable because they see the muscles. So I said, now that my wildest dreams with 15 did, I think that one day those muscles will be so important in the movies and stuff like that. And so I sold now, to answer this question, I started with 15, but I sold Conan the Barbarian, you know, the muscles and the fight scenes, and then would add on. I said, there was this one scene with the camel, and I punched out the camel and blah, blah, blah.

1:13:49So you then just spice it up. And so this is what, you know, selling and communicating is all about. I was very fortunate that my head was in that so much because when I was governor, that is the most important thing, to communicate to the people because otherwise how do you get their vote, right? So you need the people. You need to go and say, here's why we need infrastructure. We need to rebuild our roads. We need to build extra freeways, extra highways, extra tunnels and bridges and on-ramps and off-ramps. I say, why? Because you want to go to your kids' school and watch them play football.

1:14:32You don't want to be late two hours. I say, how many people get stuck in traffic and everyone will be raising their hands? I say, well, let's eliminate it. Let's terminate this problem. Let's build my roads. Vote yes on Proposition 1A. So I explained it to them, not just talking about infrastructure, which politicians normally do, but people don't know what infrastructure is. I cannot expect them to know what infrastructure is. Is it the electric lines, the power lines? Is it the plumbing? Is it the sewage? Is it the building freeways? Is it building high-speed rail? What is infrastructure? Well, all of this is infrastructure.

1:15:07But now you have to explain it to people by saying, do you ever get stuck in traffic? Of course, everyone does. So then you say, well, let's build more freeways. Let's go and vote for this so they don't get stuck in traffic. So then they know, ah, it moves the traffic faster because we get stuck in traffic. So this is why communicating, communicating, communicating, selling, selling, selling. This is what it's about. Oh, those are great stories, great examples. Yeah, I love those. I hope everyone who's listening and watching can latch on and get some insights for their own challenges. Those are great.

1:15:40And I love that you're going all the way from governor through to the gym and the story of you running around in your swimsuit is brilliant. What's the, there was one story actually that aligns with that selling point that Will Smith tells of meeting you. And he said that he walked into a room and it was you, Sylvester Stallone and Jean-Claude Van Damme. And you were the three that inspired him to go international. So he said that when he spoke to you three, you all said to him that the market in the USA is huge, but until you become a global superstar you're not really a superstar right and so in the same way as you were saying you were going around the 30 cities of the u.s you've done a lot of world touring as well for the movies well i explained to him that when i got in the movies and talking about conan the barbarian was my first big international movie again the studio says we're going to send you to Cannes, to the film festivals, and then we're going to go and send you to London and maybe to Rome and definitely to Japan.

1:16:41So I said, well, why are we only going to four places? They said, well, this is where the big markets are. Germany, but the Germans always come to England when we do the press junkets in England. So the Germans are taken care of. Then we have the Japanese. We go to Japan and you're going to do a big promotion there. And then America, those are the three big markets. So I said, okay, if this is the three big markets, I said, when I look at the globe today, I see so many other potential markets. I said, you don't want to build those. You don't want to create those. So I told Will Smith, I said, the story.

1:17:20I told him, I said, I'm going to go to France. I'm going to go to England, to Germany, to Holland, to Finland, to Sweden, to Norway. I want to go all over the place. I want to go to the Middle East. I want to go to Africa. I want to go to Australia. I want to go all over the place. They said, you're nuts. I said, because I was thinking about two things. One is to promote the movie. And the other one is I have to promote myself because most people know me as a bodybuilder, not as an actor. So this is a good opportunity for me to go around the world for the next month and to promote myself as, well, I now, I'm doing movies.

1:17:57And this is my first big movie, is Conan the Barbarian. So it was like a great opportunity. So I told him that I said, so I slowly started building an international market. And the studios were extremely pleased because every one of my movies started to get bigger and bigger internationally. So it used to be that one-third was international box office and two-thirds was domestic. Then with me, it started going to be 50-50. So 50 % domestic, 50 % international. And eventually it became one-third domestic and two-thirds international. So imagine how much more money that it added because of that.

1:18:45And so this was a tremendous power. I said to them, I said, don't ever assume that everyone would know about the movie. I said, you got to go there. You got to show your face. The people, the journalists like to shake your hand. They like to sit down on a round table with all of their mics sticking out, the 10 leading radio programs of that country. They sit all day on the table. You're the 11th person that sits there. And now you're telling them stories about the movie. I said, and they go back to their radio stations. He says, I have an exclusive interview with Will Smith. And he's coming out with this movie.

1:19:21It is hot. He looks fantastic. Great actor. I said, hey, how can it hurt? But do it. Just promote yourself internationally and go from country to country. And he said, thank you for this really great advice. Because if the studio would have said that to me, I would have just said, well, did you want to use me? But you're saying it, I buy in. I believe it. and he has been thankful ever since because of that. Yeah, yeah, it's great advice. It's great advice. You know, you've got to always let people know that there's nothing sleazy about the marketing and there's so many actors always feel like it's beneath them to go out and sell the movie.

1:20:00And I tell them, I said, look, no matter what you do, if you're a painter and you paint great paintings or if you're a musician and you want to promote an album, or if you're a movie actor and you promote your movie, I said, you have to do that because it's the only way people will know about it. The more you do and the better you do it and to actually say the right things about the movie that is snappy, that really makes people curious when it goes, that's what it's all about. It's an art by itself. Not just the acting is an art, but the selling is an art as well. Yeah. What I love about what you're saying, it's, you know, for me as well, I only moved to LA five years ago and I feel like I can be quite audacious and driven as well.

1:20:49And so when I'm listening to you, what I always find it's interesting because the most successful people in the world, they have this audacity in that they already see it as reality. And everyone else, because it's so audacious, people are trying to catch up or they can't really see it, they can't figure it out. And you almost have to have that trust that you know where it can go and how big it can get. having actually achieved all your goals, becoming the biggest bodybuilder of all time, going further, becoming this huge movie star, you just said that you had to go to educate people at one point, that you even were a movie star.

1:21:25I think you've been good at redefining yourself and re-educating people about who you are from bodybuilding to movies to obviously governor of California. How does it feel to have lived out so many of your visions that you saw so clearly as that young man in Austria, how does that actually feel? Well, to be honest with you, I always say to people, I would never switch my life with anyone's life, no matter who it is. Because I think that I am the most privileged person in the world. I mean, it's like to be able to live this many types of lives, to live the life of an athlete, of an amateur, of a professional, to really get the inside scoop.

1:22:16Because when you get the inside scoop of one profession, of one sport, you pretty much, because you hang out with the top football players, with Joe Namath and all of those guys in the 70s, I mean, and with George Foreman and Muhammad Ali. So you get to know really the inside of all sports, basically. And I think to learn everything about sports, to then learn everything about entertainment, to be now with the greatest of the greatest. I mean, imagine that I still met people like Frank Sinatra and Bob Hope, Sammy Davis Jr., Dean Martin, and all of those guys. The guy that trained me in comedy was Milton Berle.

1:23:02and all these old-timer guys, Jimmy Stewart. I mean, the list goes on, Lucille Ball. The list goes on and on and on to meet all of these people, to work with them, to do photo shoots with them, to go to parties with them, to be at dinner with them, at charity events with them. I mean, it's really staggering to have this kind of experience. And then to travel around the world and to meet all these political leaders from Gorbachev and every president in the United States, from Ronald Reagan to Jimmy Carter to George Bush and everyone that the list goes on and on and on, Clinton and all those guys, all the way, Nixon.

1:23:45I mean, everyone I met and talked to and hung out with and learned from, Mandela. So this is like, I mean, who has the privilege to do that? and to travel around the Middle East and to do the things that people say you can't do, like to go from an Arab country to Israel or from Israel to the Arab. I hop back and forth all over the place, from Iraq to Jordan to Israel to Kuwait. I mean, everywhere. And, you know, visiting the American soldiers over there and to be there. I mean, it's staggering, this kind of life. and then to go into the political arena and then to figure out what makes really a city or a state or a country run and tick.

1:24:36And what kind of players do you need? And how do you negotiate with all of those people? And how do you bring Democrats and Republicans together? And how do you come up with your own vision of how things should work? Because very quickly, you know, I was a hardcore Republican. But very quickly, I realized that that's not where the action is. The action is not with one party. That America is Democrats and Republicans declined to state independence together. And so that's the team. And as a team together, we can do great things. But if you start splitting the team, you start falling apart. It's like any football team or basketball team.

1:25:19So I said to myself, the action is, Arnold, bringing them together. Don't insult the Democrats. Don't insult anybody. Bring them together. And let's be a public servant rather than a party servant. And so that was my new theme. I was so proud of myself. Maybe 5 ,000 other politicians have talked about this. But I mean, Obama said there's a blue state, no, a red state. There's only the United States. But there's a bogus lines, really. I mean, it sounds good, but I mean, the reality is different. So you really have to show leadership quality and you really have to kind of make an effort to bring both of them together and to be not afraid to say to the Democrats as a Republican, I need your help.

1:26:06But together, we can solve this problem. I cannot do a lone health care reform as a Republican. I need the Democrats. I need everybody. You know, so this is the kind of things of building infrastructure, doing anything in this state. It was our best work we did together. So I cannot give any party a credit. I have to give credit to the politicians and to the people. And the people really enjoyed that when Democrats and Republicans got together and campaigned together for propositions to vote for the certain propositions and all of that. So I think so. I was very, very privileged to be able to do all of those things.

1:26:43and to have millions of people listen to you and vote for you. And that, of course, goes to another chapter and another subject in a book, which is, you know, give something back to the community, you know, because we are not self-made people. And I talk about this at great length in the book. I said, you know, people so many times call me a self-made man. I know what you're talking about. But I always wanted to make clear at the same time, I'm not a self-made man. I was created by my mother and my father. I was created by my teachers, by my coaches, by my bodybuilding champions. They were my idols.

1:27:26And Joe Weider, they brought me to America. Eric Morris, who was my acting coach. Chuck Nicholson that recommended this acting coach. So all of these people had a tremendous amount. My wife did help me in every step of the way, you know, with the kids. that my kids were really helpful in my career. So I am a product of all of that. And so I think it's important that when we recognize that we have gotten the help, that we therefore give help back. So that's why you have to ask yourself the question, okay, now if everyone helped me to be where I am, how can I go out and help? Whom? Who can I help?

1:28:02What can I help them with? And I talk about it in a book that my father-in-law, or Sergeant Shriver had this great line at the university speech at Yale, where he said, don't look always in a mirror. Don't look at yourself. You know, destroy that mirror. You will be able to look beyond that mirror. And then you will see the millions of people that need your help. And so this is what it's all about, is to not just look at yourself or be self-consumed. Yes, you can be. But don't forget ever that there's a lot of people out there that need your help. And even though when people say, well, what can I do?

1:28:50I'm a nobody. I don't have any money. It's bogus. It's an excuse right off the top that I don't want to do anything. Because when you see Hawaii burning down to the ground, there's a lot of things that everyone can do. by just taking some food and bringing it to those poor folks, bringing some clothing, going out and going to some fundraising and bring a few dollars to them. Whatever it is, you can do something. Or to go into some inner city school and to help with an after-school program and to help kids learn how to read, especially since in America now, we have so many students where English is a second language.

1:29:35to help them to learn English and all this stuff. So there's endless amount of things. I just always felt that I have to be all out. I remember when Rudy Giuliani called me when he was mayor of New York. He said, oh my God, now buildings came down. We are creating a Twin Tower fund. Can you send a million dollars? I said, yeah, you got it tomorrow. In two seconds, I didn't even think about it. That's what you do when we needed masks. When COVID broke out in Los Angeles, the hospitals didn't have any masks. So I immediately put in a million dollars towards a fund that we put together to raise eight million dollars and then to get masks from all over the world, and especially from Asian countries.

1:30:21And so we can supply them with masks and gowns and with gloves and with ventilators and stuff like that. There was a company called Flexport that was within days, got us the masks, even though the government said there are no masks around, we can't get any masks. So, you know, these are things like that, or it doesn't matter if it's an earthquake or if this or that, you go out and you reach out, and that's why I'm involved in after-school programs. That's why I was involved in Special Olympics and being a trainer and a coach for Special Olympians to help them with winning medals and becoming champions and all this stuff.

1:30:59So that's what life is all about, to receive and to give. Well said, Arnold, well said. And yeah, definitely more notes in the book for anyone who wants to dive into some of those stories. But Arnold, we end every episode with a final five. So these are a fast five where you have to answer each question in one word or one sentence maximum. So these are your final five. The first question is, what is the best advice you've ever heard or received? Believe in yourself. Second question, what is the worst advice you've ever heard or received? It can't be done. Good answers. Question number three, you've mastered so many things in your life.

1:31:38What are you currently trying to master? Bring all of my talents together into one. The show business, fitness, and politics all into one and make that be my new kind of vision and drive to help the world. Wow, okay, I'm going to scrap the final. What does that look like? That's fascinating. What does that look like right now in your mind as you develop it? You can use more than one sentence. I want to be out there and help with environmental issues because I learned about that during my governorship. I want to be out there and help with healthcare issues, with aging issues, with fitness issues.

1:32:18with entertaining issues and because it's important to entertain people. So all of those kind of things. So I have the Schwarzenegger Institute where we deal with a lot of those various different issues and policies to make it a better world. And I have my environmental conference in Vienna every year where the world comes together, 80, 90 countries come together, and we talk about the environment and how to make this a fossil fuel-free world and reduce pollution so we don't have 7 million people die every year because of pollution beautiful I can't wait to see the impact you have in that space question number four has two parts to it what is your biggest personal success and what is your biggest personal failure well I think that my biggest personal success is uh to be able to do the things that I wanted to do that I visualize them and turn them into reality.

1:33:16And I think my biggest failure, obviously, is my marriage thing. From a personal point of view and from a professional point of view, I've had many movies go in the toilet. I've lost bodybuilding competitions and powerlifting competitions and all that stuff. So I had plenty of failures. It's always important to bring that up because people should know that you never will be able to go through life without failures. Failures make us learn. Failures make you stronger. pain makes it stronger so i think all of that is good yeah let's let's address both of those because it's so true like on the outside like you said people can say so privileged you met the presidents you did this you did that you've you know all the wins you know when i'm looking around this room like everything's iconic you know nothing's unrecognizable across the whole world it's all recognizable but the did you ever feel the pressure when things started to go well of like God, the next movie's got to be bigger and the next movie's got to be bigger.

1:34:14Did you feel that? Or did you just kind of, you were just loving it so much that you just kept building. And if it went wrong, that it didn't hurt you that much. You know, I never really felt that much pressure, probably about anything, to be honest with you, because I knew what I wanted. And I never really fell for this thing of what did the people expect me to do. So I just, I create my vision. And when everyone says it's impossible, I go after it with vengeance. It's like I go all out 100%. And it gives me joy. And what is great about it is that every time that you accomplish something really big, you see and become aware of other things that are new challenges that you didn't even think about.

1:35:05Yes. I mean, did I ever think about that I will fight for the environment? No. But because of the governorship, you know, this is like the thing I talk about in the book about Hillary. He climbs Mount Everest and he's up there. And all of a sudden he sees another peak to be climbed, right? And he says, that's the next one. So there's the same thing. I go and win the governorship. I go in there. I start working on the governorship and all the different policies. and I'm meeting all these scientists and experts and they talk about how many people die because of pollution and we can do something about it and I dive into that.

1:35:43It's a new peak. Oh my God, no one has really explored that. Forget the 19 % of renewables. We have to have 50 % renewables. Forget about reducing greenhouse gases by 5%. We have to reduce it by 25 % and we have to do it by 2020. And so you set big goals. So this is the new peak that you're climbing, and you go all out for that. Then when you get there, then you see another peak beyond that. So this is what is fun, and this makes my life rich. You know, that is always something new and different. And I tell you that I also learn when I, for instance, listen to you, because you come from a totally different world, right?

1:36:28So you have a different spin on things. So when a listener says, oh, that's an interesting way of looking at it. And so I think we have to learn from one another. And so I think that you and I, we have a lot in common anyway, because otherwise you wouldn't be sitting here. Yeah, definitely. I mean, to think about it, it's not just that I want to be having one of the most popular podcasts, but you have to be a curious son of a bitch to go and to be really good in what you do. And this is what I noticed about your podcast. You're really curious, a natural curiosity. Thank you. And I think that is, you have to have it.

1:37:10You have to have curiosity. It shows in your eyes. It shows in everything when you ask the question and all this. You know, it's like when you see journalists, which I hate, you know, they have like a piece of paper and you say, okay, very interesting. Now, let me ask you another question. um you want them said this is the and then how do you feel that they if they read it off the paper and then when you answer they don't even look at you in the eyes they look at the paper for the next question right so i detect didn't detect any of that from you i mean every question came without looking at anything because you're curious and i think i just wanted to mention thank you thank you i appreciate that and it means a lot coming from you and And I am curious because I grew up as a fan who didn't.

1:37:57So that's one thing. But I think I'm even more curious because you chose to write a book about being useful and life lessons. And I think that that world is what I gravitate towards because I think learning from the greats is all we have. And I think when we ignore to learn from the greats, that's when we make, we have to make our own mistakes for no reason. We can avoid so many. So no, I am very curious about you. And I think you're also a fantastic storyteller. So that helps. You get into so much detail and so many examples and everything. So it's brilliant. Thank you. I tell you, it was really fun doing this book because I really had to kind of drill down and think about a lot of the things that comes natural for me.

1:38:38Yeah. You know, to tell stories about because you each one of the rules, you want to be able to even the sub rules and the sub sub rules, you want to be able to tie it to a story so that people can relate to like I was talking about infrastructure. you can talk to people about infrastructure all you want they can relate to it but as soon as you tie it to getting stuck in traffic making it to the recital in the school and you come late an hour because of the traffic then they can relate to that and the same is with any of the rules I kind of had fun doing it, it was sometimes frustrating because you want to do 10 rules and the publisher then says no you can only do 7 because this book should only have 268 pages rather than 350 pages and all of this crazy stuff he goes through but it was a really really great process and never in my wildest dreams did i ever think that i would occupy this space at all and it really happened just totally coincidentally where more and more people you know when you when you finish with the governorship i was asked to do public speaking engagements like ex-presidents and stuff like that.

1:39:47And so I'm traveling around. I think one time someone said, can you pump up our crowd? We have like a thousand, you know, real estate people. We want you to just pump them up. So you do a little bit of success story. Yeah. And all of a sudden they took off like wildfire. Every one of the public speaking engagements they've had since then, they want to go and have me talk about success, the rules to success and all of that stuff. So it's like something I didn't even think about because I always was a motivator. You know, if it's the Special Olympics or for after school programs or with just my buddies around in the gym that became my training partners because I always have this kind of energy, right?

1:40:25Come on, let's do a set. You can do another set. But wait a minute, you're stopping me 10 reps. Give me five more reps. Let it paint. Let it give pain. You know, and you just pump, pump, pump. So I have this energy. So I never thought that this would be used then for seminars and eventually for a book like this. It's like crazy. No, it's fantastic. Where life takes you. Yeah, it's fantastic. It's beautiful to see it through your eyes and through your lens and for us all to dream as well. And I have one final question for you. And actually, before I ask it, when you said we have a lot in common, there's so many different parallels that I'll tell you later.

1:41:01Because when I was listening to you, I have a very different life, but so many similar lessons I've picked up along the way. And I think as humans, that's what brings us together. We may not have the same life story. We don't grow up in the same places. We don't have the same parents, but you pick up the same messages from the world and the same lessons from the world. So the fifth and final question I want to ask you is, if you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be? That's an interesting question. Maybe to get off fossil fuels. That you have to use alternative energy.

1:41:40If it is nuclear, we're producing energy itself. If it is for cars, electric or hydrogen, I just feel like if we have 7 million people die because of pollution, I think by having a law like that and eventually make it stick, I think that we could save those lives. and this is like more than any of the wars that they've fought and any of the other disasters or anything like this. It's like so many people die because of pollution. So I mean, that's one thing. So I mean, you know, then probably tomorrow morning I call you and say, I have another law. Great. That's a great answer. We've never had that one though.

1:42:28We've never had that answer. So it's a brilliant answer, but you've been doing so much work in, And I feel like you've been doing so much work in the plant-based space, you know, with the documentaries on game changes, like climate change now you're talking about. It seems like this has been like an immersion for you. Well, you know, it's crazy. Here's another crazy one. Yeah, go ahead. It's all, my life is so insane. I believe it. No, but I mean, it's like I'm working with this guy, Jim Cameron. I do Terminator 1. We become friends. We ride the motorcycle together. We hang out together. And then he does Terminator 2, and he does other movies, and the Titanic, and Avatar and all this.

1:43:12But he is an environmentalist. But when we did Terminator, I never knew that. And he never talked about it. So then I become governor. And now he goes and he says to me, he says, out, I want you to make you aware of that the power companies are still resisting the reverse metering. I said, reverse metering? What the hell are you talking about? He says, well, it's the thing, you know, when you produce energy from solar and you produce too much, you want to put it back on a grid. That's reverse metering. And you get credit for it. So I walk away and I said, how does Jim Cameron know about reverse metering and about that subject?

1:43:58You know, of course, it's very clear because he's a genius, right? And he just is with technology and stuff like that. He's unbeatable. Yeah. So but sure enough, I go into the office the next day in the governor's office. I said, look, guys, I want to talk a little bit about reverse metering. Oh, I'm so glad you bring this up because fucking power companies are fighting us tooth and nail. They don't want to do reverse metering. But we want to pass a law. So we're telling the legislators to send us a bill so that you can sign it and blah, blah, blah. So this just gives you an example of what impact Jim Cameron had on me with issues that is way beyond, you know, movies and stuff like that.

1:44:40Then he goes and says to me, I said to him, I said, my doctor said to me, he says, I should get off meat. And I should only have once a week meat. And he says, well, hello, where have you been? I mean I've been vegan for five years so I said what? and he says I've been vegan for five years I haven't eaten any meat for five years you don't need meat to have and he goes crazy now and he says we're doing a documentary right now on eating plant based food so all of a sudden he's the expert now I sit down with him and he's telling me for hours about plant based food and how he can combine and create the right amino acids to create the right protein and obviously how he can get strong.

1:45:30And now he lists the name of the athletes, boxers, wrestlers, weightlifters, UFC fighters, everything that are on plant-based food. Think about that. So now I got into it and I was part of this documentary, right? And now I eat like maybe once a week meat. So I would say 70 % at least, they cut down my meat intake for health reasons. And it happens to be also for environmental reasons. As he explained, I said, Arnold, what do you think where most of the pollution comes from? More than from transportation comes from breeding livestock. He says, are you kidding me? He says, no, read up on it. He says, I sent you some stuff.

1:46:18So I'm reading up on it. Sure enough, 28 % of the pollution comes from breeding livestock. So he says, if people wouldn't eat meat, he says, and wouldn't have the animals being kind of like the horse cell, kind of like the vegetable protein goes into the animal, then they eat it in their chest, then you eat the animal, you still get the plant-based food, but through the animal now. He says, it's bullshit. We can do better than that. Let's cut out the meat. it's just amazing how I get exposed to various different things in my life and make me passionate about ways that I couldn't even ever have planned you know this kind of relationships and this kind of knowledge you could never plan on yeah and do you also have a meditation practice is that right I used to in the 70s there was a time when I got out of bodybuilding and into show business.

1:47:16And there was all kinds of things happening in the mid-70s. So I was doing my last year of competition in 1975 in South Africa, Mr. Olympia. So I was training for that. I was finishing off my movie Stay Hungry with Bob Raferson and Sally Fields and Jeff Bridges, you know, doing that. And I was at the same time going full blast in the show business, taking acting classes and investing my money in real estate. So it was no matter which way I was turning, I was like scrambling. And at that point, I did not know much about how to isolate and just concentrate on one thing at a time. So I'm hanging out with this guy, this skinny rat down on the beach.

1:48:05He's a transcendental meditation teacher. but he never talked about it so i said i said yeah i feel frantic i mean it's like everything is a little bit overwhelming for me i'm doing this movie i'm shooting the documentary pumping on i'm going to the competition i'm finishing off stay hungry i'm trying to do real estate and become a millionaire i'm all over the place he says let me talk to you a little bit very calmly talks to me about it and he says why don't you come up to westwood and take some transcendental meditation he says I cannot be your teacher even though I'm a teacher I said you're a teacher transcendental yeah he said but I cannot be your teacher is our rules when you have friendship and stuff like that if there's someone else he says but don't worry I said yeah I'll be the right guy so I go up there and I do the I learn now about meditation and as I got into it I was then doing meditation like for months wow throughout the summer that hectic summer and I mean, the summer was over.

1:49:09It wasn't that hectic anymore. So what I learned from meditation was, you know, how to kind of like, first of all, rejuvenate the mind and to kind of disconnect the mind. But also what I learned was how to focus on one thing at a time and to just look at that with no peripheral vision so that nothing comes in. solve this and then don't think about anything else and then go over here and solve this and then solve this because he said you can never do all of it in one time anyway and as soon as you single out things it becomes much more approachable and much more doable he said to me I remember he said when you drive down and Venice Port Walk with your bike.

1:50:05He says, you will look sometimes on this busy day and it will be all packed. He says, it would look like you would not be able to go through this crowd because you're looking at the whole shot, the whole port walk all the way down a mile, Venice. So it's overwhelming. He says, but if you go now with your bike slowly, you negotiate around the people and always then you will find spaces where you can go where you don't bump into anybody and always then you're on the end of it and it was totally doable because you took like one person at a time kind of like bicycling around he says and that's the way it is with everything he says if you just look at it one thing at a time you'll be able to solve any problem and that's why he says you see people like the Pope that has obviously his daily routine, the big daily routine.

1:51:05And these guys, they get up at 5 o 'clock in the morning, they work out for an hour and a half, very calmly, get dead out of the way. Then they read newspapers like Pope John Paul, I remember he told me he read newspapers in six different languages. So they read the newspapers. Then they get that done. Then they go and take a shower, and then they go and have the first meeting. So this is how they step by step, they approach the day. And he says, the people that get done the most, you can load them up with even more responsibilities because they're very organized and very systematic in their approach.

1:51:45And so I've learned that. So now I've never really been that frantic again. But if I would become frantic, I would go right back into the meditation because I know now how to do it. That's fantastic. Arnold, everyone who's been listening or watching the book is called Be Useful Seven Tools for Life you can grab it right now, we're going to put the link in the comments and the captions so that you can order it right away, as you can tell, Arnold's a phenomenal storyteller, inside of it are lessons stories, and one of the things I definitely have in common with Arnold that I appreciate about him, is how simple the ideas, how easy they are to digest, they're not complicated and you know, you don't have to learn something new, you can actually just sit there, take them in listen, and all of a sudden you start going wait a minute, maybe it is that easy.

1:52:29Maybe it is that simple. And I think that's something that we desperately need in today's world. So Arnold, I thank you for putting all your lessons into a book for us. I thank you for telling so many amazing stories. And I signed 17 ,000 copies. Wow. Pages. Because now they sent you the pages. So I'm getting these boxes with pages. Each box was a thousand pages. And I said to myself, wait a minute now, first was like 14 ,000 for the American company and then there was another three and a half thousand or four thousand for the British company. And they're going to be in bookstores? Yes so what they do is I think that the first of the books are all signed.

1:53:09Yes. So now people when they pre-order they will wear signed books. I think that was the idea. So in the old days that you would go to a bookstore and you would sign all the books yourself and then you sit there for hours and hours and after an hour you signed 100 books right because you have to open up the book and it's always slow now it's these pages so i was just like signing signing signing i was for three months i was signing and signing and signing yeah i mean think about it i mean 17 000 yeah i can relate it's crazy yeah it's crazy i never thought that i have to do that many signatures i love it well it's available now make sure you tag me and arnold on any social media platforms you're using whether it's tiktok Instagram X or wherever you are.

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